| 00:01.54 | Kraps | hey all |
| 00:02.12 | Kraps | so whats good today? http://store.steampowered.com/ |
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| 00:04.18 | mikma | lolz |
| 00:04.19 | mikma | http://store.steampowered.com/app/550/ |
| 00:04.25 | Fisker | you wouldn't Mikk |
| 00:04.28 | Fisker | bah |
| 00:04.38 | Mikk | mikmas Fisker |
| 00:04.50 | Fisker | see above |
| 00:04.57 | mikma | oh man |
| 00:05.06 | mikma | thats harsh mikk |
| 00:05.15 | Mikk | he deserved it |
| 00:05.59 | mikma | you mean fister? cant see what he did cause i have him on ignore |
| 00:08.46 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5438346/the-ten-most-influential-women-in-games-of-the-past-decade/gallery/ |
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| 00:32.58 | DJJeff | is anyone else using this CoolLevelUp addon? |
| 00:33.23 | DJJeff | the only thing I wanna know how to change is keep the thing on for longer then 10 seconds |
| 00:34.08 | Fisker | oh noes |
| 00:34.13 | DJJeff | \Interface\AddOns\CoolLevelUp\gui\levelup.lua ...... im looking in here and dont know what to change |
| 00:34.20 | DJJeff | *sigh* |
| 00:35.01 | DJJeff | http://pastebin.ca/1735645 |
| 00:35.11 | DJJeff | a pastebin if anyone doesn't have the addon |
| 00:36.25 | DJJeff | I can change line 46 to " = 1.000; " ? |
| 00:37.57 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 00:38.00 | DJJeff | this is a lost cause |
| 00:38.09 | DJJeff | I can mess with these numbers |
| 00:38.16 | DJJeff | and the music will still cut out |
| 00:38.18 | DJJeff | X_X |
| 00:39.42 | DJJeff | ahahahahahaaha |
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| 00:39.43 | DJJeff | wow |
| 00:39.47 | DJJeff | (facepalm) |
| 00:39.50 | DJJeff | wrong file |
| 00:42.00 | Amarande | FAIL |
| 00:42.16 | DJJeff | very fail |
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| 00:43.34 | DJJeff | new pastebin |
| 00:43.35 | DJJeff | http://pastebin.ca/1735654 |
| 00:43.41 | DJJeff | how would I modify this? |
| 00:43.56 | DJJeff | line 17 and 18 |
| 00:44.01 | Lopeppeppy | First question, are the sound clips themselves long enough for the duration you want? |
| 00:44.12 | DJJeff | sure |
| 00:44.13 | DJJeff | why not |
| 00:44.22 | DJJeff | I can make them any length I want :) |
| 00:44.30 | DJJeff | the music is too long right now |
| 00:44.32 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, so you're supplying your own. Good to know. |
| 00:44.36 | DJJeff | it cuts out 1/2 way |
| 00:44.50 | DJJeff | and the animation fades too fast |
| 00:45.37 | DJJeff | I wanna make this "holdtime" the same for every level |
| 00:45.42 | DJJeff | or w.e |
| 00:45.47 | DJJeff | its driving me nuts here |
| 00:46.34 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmmmm |
| 00:46.37 | DJJeff | I think I get it |
| 00:46.42 | DJJeff | change the "END" |
| 00:46.43 | DJJeff | to later |
| 00:46.45 | DJJeff | so |
| 00:47.02 | DJJeff | line 33,61,89.... etc |
| 00:47.32 | DJJeff | 14.000 means 14 seconds? |
| 00:48.32 | DJJeff | baaaaaaaah oh well....... if I make a mistake can always reinstall *sigh* |
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| 00:54.19 | Kraps | woooo wipe in AN |
| 00:55.14 | industrial | lol. |
| 00:55.24 | industrial | respecced to resto, liking it so far |
| 00:55.36 | Kraps | lock pulled one group when the other was coming |
| 00:55.52 | Lopeppeppy | Indie is a tree? |
| 00:56.27 | Fisker | i hate trees |
| 00:59.03 | Lopeppeppy | You hush your face. |
| 00:59.54 | Amarande | gah, this hockey commentator's voice sounds like he should have gone for the priesthood, not sports commentary |
| 01:00.16 | kd3 | gah |
| 01:00.23 | kd3 | I live too far south for it to not even hit freezing today |
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| 01:00.44 | Amarande | also the screen headline reads "HOCKEY. NIGHT IN CANADA" |
| 01:00.50 | Amarande | without any explanation for why there's a period there heh |
| 01:00.57 | Amarande | and, worst of all |
| 01:00.58 | Amarande | calgary is losing. |
| 01:02.08 | alestane | I'm from the east coast...can't say I much care what happens to the flames when they're not playing Boston. |
| 01:02.54 | Lopeppeppy | tackle-thumples alestane! |
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| 01:03.01 | alestane | Oof! |
| 01:03.26 | alestane | I hear your kitty is getting a little better. |
| 01:03.30 | Amarande | but this old guy on the intermission commentary looks and sounds like he ought to be a pope not a commentator :P |
| 01:09.15 | alestane | keeps Lopeppeppy in the tackle. |
| 01:09.18 | Lopeppeppy | She's not dead yet! |
| 01:10.23 | alestane | It's usually much more fun to have someone on the ground in a clinch when they're not, honestly. |
| 01:10.45 | Lopeppeppy | Was that sentence in english, because I didn't follow it. |
| 01:11.30 | alestane | It's entirely parseable. |
| 01:12.44 | alestane | It's more fun to have someone in that position when they're not dead. |
| 01:12.54 | alestane | So many more interesting possibilities. |
| 01:14.10 | Lopeppeppy | I was talking about **Rosie**, silly emu. |
| 01:14.19 | alestane | Oh, the problem is that the sentence I was responding to didn't mean what I took it to mean. |
| 01:14.28 | Lopeppeppy | And if you prefer the ground that's fine, but not in New England in winter! |
| 01:14.40 | alestane | You were talking about your cat who's doing alright for the moment. |
| 01:14.53 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PStC-LNZ2s |
| 01:14.55 | Wobin | hehee |
| 01:15.24 | Lopeppeppy | Um, yeah. Herro, you sorta asked. |
| 01:15.34 | alestane | Yes. |
| 01:15.39 | Lopeppeppy | I showed you her photo gallery of evil frankenstitches? Soooo graphic and gory. |
| 01:15.59 | alestane | And then I said something else before you responded and confused myself about which one you meant. My bad. |
| 01:16.16 | alestane | I don't think I saw those yet, just a note on your LJ. |
| 01:16.40 | Lopeppeppy | Haven't generally posted the link, not everyone wants to see graphic stitches. |
| 01:16.50 | alestane | That she was getting over the medication panic, just a little touchy still. |
| 01:17.51 | Lopeppeppy | She's a nutcase in her kennel, only calms down when she's on the couch with me. *sigh* |
| 01:17.58 | Adys | Im about to wipe my chrome history |
| 01:18.30 | Adys | hears his hard drive grind as 6gb of data are vanishing |
| 01:20.33 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, good for you, Adys! |
| 01:20.52 | Adys | there we go |
| 01:20.54 | Adys | my life didnt end |
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| 01:21.17 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent decision. |
| 01:35.54 | kd3 | brrr |
| 01:38.01 | alestane | Are you cold? |
| 01:38.08 | kd3 | it never broke freezing today |
| 01:38.56 | Fisker | i can't sleep kd3 :( |
| 01:39.42 | Amarande | Adys: how did your *history* end up that big :| |
| 01:39.52 | Amarande | you mean your cache? |
| 01:40.00 | Amarande | woot, 2-1 calgary now |
| 01:40.43 | DJJeff | why do you need 3 people todo [Bloody Breakout] for the DK quest |
| 01:40.50 | DJJeff | there are hardly any DKs on |
| 01:40.56 | DJJeff | I cant solo this crap |
| 01:40.57 | Amarande | and alestane, I'm from the East Coast and still a calgary fan heh |
| 01:41.06 | Amarande | DJJeff: I can't remember the DK starting quests needing a group at any point |
| 01:41.06 | Adys | Amarande: i mean my history |
| 01:41.10 | Adys | i clear my cache daily |
| 01:41.26 | Adys | chrome history is stored in a very non-efficient way it seems |
| 01:41.39 | DJJeff | maybe im doing it wrong |
| 01:41.51 | DJJeff | I even rise my stupid dead thingy |
| 01:42.33 | Amarande | yeah, you're supposed to stay in the bubble |
| 01:42.44 | Amarande | and if you get knocked out the bubble, wowhead says, then death grip him into the bubble |
| 01:42.52 | Amarande | but you don't want to both be in or both out of the bubble, that sucks |
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| 02:00.27 | DJJeff | [A Special Surprise] is glitched |
| 02:00.32 | DJJeff | I slaid the guy |
| 02:00.45 | DJJeff | is something supposed to drop? |
| 02:01.16 | Amarande | no |
| 02:01.29 | Amarande | it's just a kill credit |
| 02:01.47 | DJJeff | am I not getting the credit? |
| 02:01.52 | DJJeff | stupid wow |
| 02:02.07 | cbreak | kill credit for? |
| 02:02.12 | cbreak | a quest? Are you in a raid? |
| 02:02.39 | DJJeff | quest |
| 02:02.42 | DJJeff | no im solo |
| 02:02.50 | DJJeff | http://thottbot.com/c29072 |
| 02:06.26 | DJJeff | lol |
| 02:06.32 | DJJeff | there were other people |
| 02:06.35 | DJJeff | on this quest |
| 02:06.40 | DJJeff | I kept killing theirs |
| 02:06.41 | DJJeff | instead |
| 02:06.47 | DJJeff | they are screaming at me |
| 02:06.57 | DJJeff | this is youtube worthy |
| 02:06.58 | Fisker | fly me to the moon |
| 02:07.13 | Fisker | btw DJJeff you can be in a raid without knowing |
| 02:07.18 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:07.57 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmmmmm |
| 02:07.58 | Arrowmaster | or just drop the quest and try it again |
| 02:08.05 | DJJeff | my risen minion got the kill |
| 02:08.08 | DJJeff | maybe |
| 02:08.15 | DJJeff | I dismised the stupid thing |
| 02:08.40 | Amarande | DJJeff: that's probably it |
| 02:08.41 | Amarande | remember |
| 02:08.47 | Amarande | you don't get credit for kills where the pet deals all the damage? |
| 02:08.57 | Amarande | you must never have played a hunter or warlock, I assume? |
| 02:09.08 | DJJeff | yep got it |
| 02:09.15 | cbreak | I've read of full raid groups getting no boss loot |
| 02:09.31 | cbreak | because the first damage done on a mob was by some damage aura of a shaman |
| 02:09.40 | cbreak | (which tagged the boss, so it was grey for the raid) |
| 02:09.43 | DJJeff | when I come out of this DK Quest crap |
| 02:09.52 | Amarande | cbreak: that sounds like a craptastic bug |
| 02:09.56 | DJJeff | I can GRANT A LEVEL to 50 to my recruit |
| 02:09.56 | cbreak | but that was lucifron, so might have been fixed already |
| 02:10.05 | Fisker | duh |
| 02:10.10 | Fisker | I doubt it ever existed |
| 02:10.16 | DJJeff | then have him GRANT my alt up to 50 |
| 02:10.18 | DJJeff | :) |
| 02:10.19 | Fisker | but that long ago you can't be sure :P |
| 02:10.21 | Amarande | although shamans did have by far the worst of it when it came to the Pet Damage Rule |
| 02:10.26 | Amarande | before 3.3, anyway |
| 02:10.50 | cbreak | I am alliance, so I wouldn't know |
| 02:10.56 | Amarande | the problem being, when you're high level, sometimes you want to just aoe farm the hell out of weak shit for low level loot |
| 02:10.57 | Amarande | however |
| 02:11.23 | Amarande | it used to be (and still is really?) that shamans' only source of really hardcore AoE is fire nova |
| 02:11.47 | cbreak | Chain Lightning seems to be very effective |
| 02:11.58 | Amarande | and before 3.3, that was a totem, so if you tried using that, assuming the mobs didn't nom the totem before it went off (which happened what seemed like 99% of the time) it counted as pet damage and so NO LOOT FOR YOU |
| 02:12.06 | Amarande | this is one reason why I was really glad when fire nova became a spell |
| 02:12.30 | Amarande | cbreak: against small groups of mobs, but if you want to aoe farm more than 3 at once you used to be out of luck |
| 02:12.38 | Fisker | you know what's super fucking annoying? |
| 02:12.40 | Amarande | unlike well just about any other class with AoE |
| 02:12.42 | Fisker | The quest in terrokkar |
| 02:12.42 | Amarande | because of the pet rule |
| 02:12.48 | Fisker | as retribution |
| 02:12.54 | cbreak | I always hated aoe farming |
| 02:12.56 | Amarande | Fisker: which quest in terokkar? |
| 02:12.59 | cbreak | takes so long time to loot |
| 02:13.03 | Fisker | you have to kill trees |
| 02:13.04 | cbreak | and drink |
| 02:13.08 | Fisker | and it spawns lowhp termites |
| 02:13.23 | Amarande | oh god swarmer type mobs. |
| 02:13.30 | Arrowmaster | sweet chuck s2 bluray rip |
| 02:13.31 | Fisker | Yeah well they're low hp |
| 02:13.42 | Fisker | So they pretty much kill themselves on my ret aura |
| 02:13.55 | Amarande | Fisker: yeah, but when I first encountered swarmer type mobs |
| 02:14.02 | Amarande | I was helping a friend of mine with the egg hunt quest in the barrens |
| 02:14.10 | Amarande | and this was WAY back, like when 2.2 or so was current |
| 02:14.14 | Amarande | and I was a priest ... |
| 02:14.15 | Amarande | well ... |
| 02:14.24 | Amarande | let's just say that when spell pushback was still full strength |
| 02:14.35 | Amarande | swarmers were .... OMGJESUSFUCK. |
| 02:14.44 | Fisker | :P |
| 02:18.36 | Kraps | whats does "bop" mean in the pally abilities? |
| 02:19.05 | cbreak | Blessing of Protection |
| 02:19.13 | cbreak | makes the target invulnerable to any melee damage |
| 02:19.16 | cbreak | or physical damage? |
| 02:19.19 | cbreak | either of them |
| 02:19.31 | cbreak | also gives you a debuff that prevents you from getting it again within certain timeframe |
| 02:19.42 | cbreak | very nice to have as mage when aoeing skeletons on nefarion :) |
| 02:19.51 | foxlit | bop is a misnomer now. |
| 02:20.22 | cbreak | not a blessing anymore? |
| 02:20.29 | foxlit | Nope. A "Hand" now. |
| 02:20.48 | cbreak | "hand"? Sounds like a card game |
| 02:20.58 | cbreak | maybe some inside plug for the WoW TCG |
| 02:21.45 | Kraps | pallys have a lot of "hands" :) |
| 02:22.31 | Dagmar | Well, it is pretty much a card gambit |
| 02:22.36 | Kraps | which explains all the stories with the clergy these days/// |
| 02:22.55 | Kraps | hands all over the place |
| 02:23.02 | Amarande | Kraps: that's only a matter for alliance to worry about though |
| 02:23.14 | Amarande | blood elves do not put their hands on kids, because blood elves do not have kids |
| 02:23.20 | Amarande | blood elves spawn fully grown and armored out of thin air |
| 02:23.29 | Amarande | I should know, from the number of times I died on IQD back in the 2.4 days |
| 02:23.44 | Amarande | also explains why blood elf women never have trouble with their figure :) |
| 02:24.22 | cbreak | has theorized that the blood elf genders stay among themselves |
| 02:27.02 | cogwheel | Every time I see Falric i read it as Failrik |
| 02:27.11 | Adys | foxlit: hm |
| 02:27.24 | cogwheel | Shirik: ^ |
| 02:27.37 | Shirik | :P |
| 02:28.50 | foxlit | hm? |
| 02:29.13 | Adys | foxlit: I dont think Im detecting dxt3 correctly |
| 02:29.29 | Adys | well not on every blp |
| 02:29.31 | Adys | sec |
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| 02:32.33 | Adys | well scratch that |
| 02:32.55 | Kraps | fuck this guy, he needs a tank: "hp?" |
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| 02:34.31 | Adys | foxlit: encoding 2, alphaDepth 8, alphaEncoding 1; thats dxt3 right? |
| 02:35.29 | foxlit | I don't check the depth, but that seems right. |
| 02:35.44 | foxlit | or, rather, I check that the depth isn't 1 |
| 02:35.50 | foxlit | or 0. |
| 02:36.29 | Amarande | Kraps: they just don't learn, do they |
| 02:36.34 | Adys | i got some alpha corner glitch with some icons, last time this happened it was because it was using the dxt5 algo.. but i checked and it does the same with dxt5 |
| 02:36.36 | Adys | sec uploading |
| 02:36.39 | Amarande | there is a horribly limited supply of tanks as it is, and then they have the gall to be picky |
| 02:36.51 | foxlit | Adys: some icons are legitimately glitched. |
| 02:36.51 | Amarande | and then they wonder why there's even more of a tank shortage and they wait 15 minutes in the queue as dps |
| 02:37.04 | foxlit | Check whether your rendering matches that of the wow client. |
| 02:38.19 | Adys | foxlit: Theres definitely too many of them |
| 02:38.19 | Adys | and i checked against other blp decoders |
| 02:38.19 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/spell_unused2.png |
| 02:38.19 | foxlit | yeah, okay, that's broken. |
| 02:38.39 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/140383/ if you have any idea |
| 02:39.12 | foxlit | [also the wrong icon?] |
| 02:39.22 | Adys | uh yeah |
| 02:39.24 | Adys | its spell_unused |
| 02:39.27 | Adys | i just renamed it |
| 02:39.49 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/box/Spell_unused.png |
| 02:39.58 | Adys | yep |
| 02:40.08 | foxlit | But it's DXT3, not 5. |
| 02:40.19 | Adys | Yep, this is definitely decoded as dxt3 |
| 02:43.16 | Adys | foxlit: it would seem Im decoding bigger squares as transparent than I should |
| 02:43.23 | Kraps | Amarande: its my own fault for even asking, in his ad he wrote "dont fail" |
| 02:43.27 | Adys | wow that sentense was terribly broken |
| 02:43.52 | Adys | foxlit: By the way, that icon you linked is transparent; is that normal? |
| 02:43.58 | foxlit | Adys: The finalAlpha assignments in lines 12-15 |
| 02:44.12 | Adys | Yeha? |
| 02:44.17 | foxlit | You reference some alpha0/alpha1 values |
| 02:44.23 | foxlit | where do you pull those from? |
| 02:44.30 | Adys | ops sorry |
| 02:44.31 | Adys | alpha0, alpha1 = unpack("<BB", block[:2]) |
| 02:44.44 | Adys | those are the first two bytes of the block |
| 02:45.03 | Amarande | you know, level 80 probably discourages the living shit out of way too many tanks as well |
| 02:45.14 | Amarande | I mean, imagine someone who may be newish to tanking, but does everything right |
| 02:45.33 | foxlit | That is (probably) true for dxt5. |
| 02:45.34 | Amarande | they research tanking, and they get plenty of practice by tanking whenever they can on the way up (which is a lot easier to do now, too, with the dungeon finder) |
| 02:45.45 | Amarande | they get known from 30 to 79 as a pretty good tank. |
| 02:45.46 | foxlit | DXT3 has no built-in alpha values, though |
| 02:45.48 | Amarande | then they ding 80. |
| 02:45.59 | Amarande | and next thing instead of being the good tank everyone looked forward to seeing through the 70s |
| 02:46.00 | foxlit | The first 8 bytes are actually 16 4-bit alpha values for each one of the pixels. |
| 02:46.12 | Amarande | they're a fail tank who gets kicked from every group because they're not up to uber gear |
| 02:46.29 | Amarande | and then people start wondering why they, too, queue as dps and nobody tanks. :) |
| 02:46.49 | Adys | foxlit: yeah, I see |
| 02:46.51 | alestane | Amarande: The process of getting geared up to cap held me back for a little while. Everyone's expectations for your health and armor are very high. |
| 02:47.18 | Adys | foxlit: its odd.. that westfall map bit i linked you is dxt3, and its transparency didn't break |
| 02:47.21 | alestane | I got tossed out of a HToC group for not having enough health, despite the fact that I had tanked it without wiping the day before. |
| 02:47.36 | Amarande | alestane: heh, wonder which took longer |
| 02:47.39 | alestane | Instead, they told me there was no way in hell I'd done that. Basically called me a liar to my face. |
| 02:47.43 | Amarande | your deserter debuff or their queue. :) |
| 02:47.54 | Amarande | probably their queue LOL |
| 02:48.11 | alestane | This was before the LFD system. And they pulled the bosses within a minute of ditching me. |
| 02:48.38 | alestane | Because I tried to link a piece of loot from HToC to one of them on my way out and got a DBM response. |
| 02:48.58 | Amarande | heh fail group is fail |
| 02:49.36 | alestane | I understand that people think 23k health is low for that (and it is a bit low), but telling me it was impossible that I had done it already was just asinine. |
| 02:49.46 | foxlit | Adys: westfall maps are dxt1 |
| 02:50.03 | Adys | foxlit: sec |
| 02:50.09 | foxlit | [Interface/WorldMap/Westfall/Westfall1.blp] |
| 02:50.15 | Adys | foxlit: try TheDustPlains1.blp |
| 02:50.26 | Wobin | maybe they felt their healer wasn't up to the job |
| 02:50.28 | Adys | Im not sure its the correct name |
| 02:50.34 | Adys | maybe TheDeadAcre |
| 02:50.45 | foxlit | 5 |
| 02:50.56 | Adys | Hm thats not good |
| 02:50.58 | foxlit | [both of them] |
| 02:51.06 | alestane | Wobin: Probably, it was the healer who started out saying "if she's tanking then I hope she's about to have more health." |
| 02:51.10 | Adys | one sec |
| 02:51.13 | alestane | "Are you in tanking gear?" |
| 02:51.28 | Wobin | although, one thing I hate, are tanks that spec only at 80, and expect to know how to be an ubertank straight off |
| 02:51.34 | Wobin | especially if they've never tanked before |
| 02:52.25 | Legorol | yay, thrashing nontanks and noob tanks! i likes, can i join? |
| 02:52.27 | alestane | My pally has been prot from the beginning. My warrior was originally played for DPS, but I've practiced tanking since early 70s, Nexus and AzN. |
| 02:52.48 | DJJeff | can you solo.......... |
| 02:52.48 | DJJeff | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Light_of_Dawn |
| 02:52.49 | DJJeff | ? |
| 02:52.52 | foxlit | yes. |
| 02:52.55 | DJJeff | hrmmmm |
| 02:52.55 | kd3 | yes |
| 02:52.55 | DJJeff | ok |
| 02:53.00 | kd3 | the entire dk chain is soloable |
| 02:53.01 | foxlit | In fact, you can complete that quest while being afk. |
| 02:53.13 | kd3 | just don't go try to take on the elites on your own |
| 02:53.32 | Legorol | DJJeff: it's not marked as a group quest, so must be soloable |
| 02:53.45 | Adys | foxlit: scratch that, I decode them as dxt5 as well |
| 02:53.55 | DJJeff | ohhhhh I just needed to start the dialog |
| 02:54.05 | DJJeff | the "?" was in grey |
| 02:54.09 | DJJeff | (facepalm) |
| 02:55.01 | DJJeff | lol 10000 vs 300 forces |
| 02:55.06 | DJJeff | this is gonna be fun |
| 02:55.15 | DJJeff | awwwwwwwwww 5 min wait... lame |
| 02:55.29 | kd3 | just watch the show. it's worth it |
| 02:55.35 | kd3 | make sure you don't have your game audio muted |
| 02:55.48 | Adys | foxlit: Just to be sure, are you sure your spell_unused.png is supposed to be transparent like it is? |
| 02:55.53 | Adys | something like 90% opacity |
| 02:56.13 | wereHamster | alestane: what is the normal HP that a tank should have (unbuffed)? |
| 02:56.16 | foxlit | Adys: no, that's likely a conversion artifact. |
| 02:56.25 | Adys | mmh ok |
| 02:57.02 | Kraps | i got a dream shard from a green :D |
| 02:57.12 | DJJeff | # Neutral [55] Bloody Breakout = not soloable |
| 02:57.17 | DJJeff | needed 2 of us |
| 02:57.20 | DJJeff | todo it |
| 02:57.20 | foxlit | It's mostly because I do alpha8 = alpha4 << 4 |
| 02:58.32 | alestane | wereHamster: 1) depends on the content; 2) I don't usually play like that. I decide if my health is too low once I've seen that the healer can't reliably keep me up. It also depends on your healer. |
| 02:58.50 | alestane | The healer who booted me from HToC wanted me to have 30k. |
| 02:59.12 | Amarande | alestane: you need disc healers |
| 02:59.16 | Lopeppeppy | I did all of my DK quests solo. |
| 02:59.19 | Amarande | disc healers are tank healers, and thus win |
| 02:59.29 | alestane | But you should be able to do pre-ToC heroics with ~20k health. |
| 02:59.40 | Amarande | because in 5-man, if someone other than the tank is taking damage, well ... |
| 02:59.46 | Amarande | maybe 10% of the time it's a specific mechanic. |
| 02:59.50 | Amarande | the other 90% of the time your DPS just fails. |
| 02:59.54 | Adys | foxlit: Im re-reading the article, this doesn't make sense. in the 128 output pixels, the first 64 are alpha bits? How come I'm getting a good image then? |
| 02:59.55 | alestane | Amarande: She was a druid, and I actually hate having discipline priests for healing (on my pally, anyway). |
| 03:00.08 | Amarande | what's wrong with disc priests? :) |
| 03:00.18 | alestane | They spend all their time shielding me instead of healing. |
| 03:00.42 | alestane | So I don't get any mana back unless I do it myself. |
| 03:01.02 | Lopeppeppy | Shielding is a tough mechanic sometimes. |
| 03:01.50 | alestane | They do well at keeping me up, don't get me wrong. But a prot pally is a lot more effective getting heals than prevention. |
| 03:01.51 | Amarande | alestane: that's how disc priests *work* though |
| 03:02.07 | wereHamster | I went mostly for HP in my equipment and have 28k unbuffed, and I was wondering if that is about what other tanks have |
| 03:02.08 | Amarande | and yeah, prot pallies are specifically problematic in that light |
| 03:02.13 | Adys | foxlit: nm, i got it |
| 03:02.14 | foxlit | Adys: because the first 64 bits of DXT5 are also alpha data. |
| 03:02.15 | alestane | On my warrior or death knight I'd probably love it. |
| 03:02.24 | Amarande | our usual advice to such pallies is to take off a piece of gear while staying def capped |
| 03:07.07 | alestane | Why? To make the healer panic faster? |
| 03:07.11 | Adys | foxlit: oh, I found the image i was talking about |
| 03:08.01 | Adys | foxlit: its actually thedustplains1.blp. but an older version... i think |
| 03:09.31 | Adys | foxlit: http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/blp-dxt3.blp |
| 03:09.45 | Wobin | Adys, not inthemountains1.blp? =P |
| 03:09.52 | Adys | i love u Wobin |
| 03:10.53 | foxlit | Mm, that seems right |
| 03:11.06 | Adys | Im getting very correct alpha levels there |
| 03:14.08 | foxlit | Hm, interesting. |
| 03:15.35 | foxlit | My C decoder holds a minority opinion on how to render that thing; but they all claim it's DXT3. |
| 03:18.15 | Adys | mmh |
| 03:18.26 | Adys | and it decodes fine as dxt3, right? |
| 03:18.32 | foxlit | yes |
| 03:18.35 | Adys | Im guessing the game had problems with it otherwise they wouldnt have renewed it |
| 03:19.53 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/box/blp-dxt3-c.png vs http://www.go-hero.net/box/blp-dxt3-lua.png |
| 03:21.24 | Adys | foxlit: http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/blp-dxt3.png |
| 03:21.46 | Adys | well that doesn't actually look as right as it did over a checker |
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| 03:34.39 | tem | foxlit, am I reading that right? Do you have a blp-to-png converter written in lua? |
| 03:34.54 | foxlit | tem: yes. |
| 03:35.03 | tem | awesome. |
| 03:35.15 | tem | can I have the source? |
| 03:35.42 | foxlit | You do not want to see this travesty :) |
| 03:36.28 | kd3 | can't be as bad as my spaghetti code for the wowitem extension |
| 03:37.11 | Adys | kd3: the wha |
| 03:37.28 | Adys | tem: python >! |
| 03:38.53 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/temp/lblp |
| 03:40.22 | Iriel | Make isBase2x a table lookup |
| 03:41.16 | foxlit | A table of every 2^x result? |
| 03:41.27 | Iriel | for likely values of n, you can't have THAT many? |
| 03:41.36 | foxlit | It's only really there for an assertion, so I'm not too bothered. |
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| 03:55.08 | foxlit | Though it'd be nice to have an arithmetic way to determine that. |
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| 04:05.09 | m^rk | is there a super simple way to establish toolips for buttons and other controls on my frames without having to catch events to manipulate GameToolTip manually for each one? |
| 04:10.56 | Kraps | people and their virus-infested computers /grimace |
| 04:11.18 | Kraps | OHH LOOK A FREE THING LEMME CLICK IT |
| 04:17.05 | kdtresh | m^rk: you mean without setting an onmouse event? |
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| 04:24.11 | SqueeG_ | fdvdsf |
| 04:24.14 | SqueeG_ | blah |
| 04:29.55 | m^rk | kdtresh: yes |
| 04:30.15 | m^rk | like a one line frame:SetTip("Bleah") |
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| 04:31.30 | SqueeG | Torhal |
| 04:31.43 | SqueeG | Hrm... Torhal_ |
| 04:33.22 | Shirik | racist (as the boondocks always is) but so awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIHFM8pMQ38 |
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| 04:40.53 | Dagmar | It's not a racist show |
| 04:40.58 | Dagmar | They just make fun of racists. |
| 04:41.22 | DJJeff | my recruit can grant me levels but I cant grant him levels? |
| 04:41.25 | Corrodias2 | they walk that fine line between carlos mencia and somebody who's not insane |
| 04:41.29 | DJJeff | can anyone shed some light on this? |
| 04:41.36 | foxlit | quite awesome. They do need better scheduling hours -- it's on at 5am around here. |
| 04:43.45 | Amarande | DJJeff: I think it has to do with your level |
| 04:43.50 | Amarande | or something. |
| 04:43.53 | DJJeff | nope? |
| 04:43.54 | DJJeff | lol |
| 04:44.03 | Amarande | what level are you two? |
| 04:44.13 | DJJeff | I made a death night took it to 59 |
| 04:44.19 | DJJeff | my friend is 20 |
| 04:44.27 | Amarande | maybe it doesn't work properly with DKs |
| 04:44.37 | DJJeff | I should be able to take him up to 50+ |
| 04:44.41 | DJJeff | lmao |
| 04:45.24 | Adys | foxlit: I'm not good with bitwise operations, http://dpaste.com/140431/ - how do I get the value stored in the corresponding first or last 4 bits of bits[index] ? |
| 04:46.21 | DJJeff | im checking google on DK GaL |
| 04:46.43 | Shirik | well yeah Dagmar |
| 04:46.51 | Adys | shirik my dear love! |
| 04:46.52 | Shirik | they criticize the way the world is right now |
| 04:47.02 | Shirik | which is, as much as we try to hide it, quite racist |
| 04:47.15 | foxlit | Of bits[index] is a byte, you can get the high 4 bits by doing bits[index]/8, and the low 4 bits by doing bits[index]%8 |
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| 04:47.29 | Adys | foxlit: ah |
| 04:47.30 | foxlit | *If |
| 04:47.36 | Adys | foxlit: well its a 1-byte integer |
| 04:47.42 | foxlit | Close enough |
| 04:47.42 | Shirik | what, no you can't |
| 04:47.48 | foxlit | As long as that division will floor. |
| 04:47.49 | Shirik | oh wait yes you can |
| 04:47.55 | Adys | it does |
| 04:47.57 | Shirik | but why would you write it like that |
| 04:48.17 | Shirik | you can do it with AND or LSR |
| 04:48.32 | foxlit | Shirik: because division and modulo operators are nearly universal, while bitwise ops are not. |
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| 04:48.48 | Adys | python ones are the same as C |
| 04:49.00 | foxlit | So byte >> 4 for the high 4 bits |
| 04:49.09 | foxlit | And byte & 0xf for the low 4 bits. |
| 04:51.44 | foxlit | Shirik: you were actually right. That 8 needs to be a 16. |
| 04:52.01 | Shirik | ha! So it does |
| 04:53.43 | Cide| | funny |
| 04:53.51 | Cide| | I read it and was like "uh... oh yeah, that's right" |
| 04:54.03 | Cide| | too tired :/ |
| 04:54.25 | foxlit | vacations mess with sleeping schedules. |
| 04:54.39 | foxlit | It's 0600 soon. |
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| 05:03.42 | Cide| | agreed |
| 05:05.23 | Adys | why do people think its cool to display the ENTIRE GPL LICENSE above their program's --help message? |
| 05:05.38 | Adys | s/license// |
| 05:06.25 | Amarande | Adys: because they're too lazy to implement --license I suppose :| |
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| 05:33.19 | Shirik | someoone help meeee |
| 05:33.29 | Shirik | testwordchoicegene.h(136): Error: Expected (copy.Test(diff) == 12.25f), found (0.0000 != 12.2500) |
| 05:33.30 | Shirik | qq |
| 05:34.37 | Kalroth | dont use floats if you want any kind of accurate data! |
| 05:35.10 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure 0.0 != 12.25 no matter how big you set epsilon :P |
| 05:35.24 | Shirik | Besides, I intentionally picked numbers that are perfectly representable by floats |
| 05:35.36 | Kalroth | I'm sure Intel has made a CPU that is off by that much |
| 05:35.40 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:36.09 | Kalroth | I'd look at the diff variable in the unittest though :p |
| 05:36.39 | Shirik | actually it's a really strange problem, it seems I'm incorrectly copying a pointer |
| 05:37.12 | Kalroth | oh, so it's casting nil to a float, which ends up being 0 |
| 05:37.13 | Shirik | but I wasn't really looking for help, just messing around :P |
| 05:37.22 | Shirik | nah actually it's from an earlier test |
| 05:37.24 | Shirik | teh code goes like this: |
| 05:37.26 | Shirik | TS_ASSERT_EQUALS(gene.Test(diff), 0.0f); |
| 05:37.26 | Shirik | TS_ASSERT_EQUALS(copy.Test(diff), 12.25f); |
| 05:37.31 | Kalroth | aha |
| 05:37.35 | Shirik | gene and copy seem to be pointing to the same thing |
| 05:37.53 | Shirik | despite the name, they're not supposed to :P |
| 05:38.31 | Shirik | serious problem though: I don't know what music to put on |
| 05:38.39 | Shirik | I just listened to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcrfvP11Hbo and am in that kind of mood |
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| 05:44.54 | Shirik | wtf is Pandora smoking |
| 05:45.02 | Shirik | I typed that into Pandora and look at all the songs I've thumbed down so far: http://www.pandora.com/stations/90603570646727549a7c93bdf97ac618401da1e6ce5949cc |
| 05:48.36 | haste | Shirik: wild guess would be same song! |
| 05:48.46 | Shirik | ? |
| 05:49.03 | Shirik | it came up with fucking shakira |
| 05:49.05 | Shirik | SHAKIRA |
| 05:49.05 | Shirik | WTF |
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| 05:49.44 | Corrodias | shakira o'nira is back to playing baseketball, eh |
| 05:50.28 | haste | Shirik: Hi, I don't like in the US, I get Sarah Brightman - Time To Say Goodbye (Con Te Partiro) |
| 05:50.43 | haste | I'm amazed pandora is even giving me a list |
| 06:00.41 | Torhal_ | SqueeG: ? |
| 06:04.13 | Amarande | Shirik: next time you hit pandora it will recommend the backstreet boys |
| 06:04.43 | Amarande | the sad thing is that the modern pop music machine is coming out with such shitty music now that it makes the backstreet boys look like *good music* though :| |
| 06:07.48 | haste | that's why you listen to awesome music like IDM |
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| 06:30.19 | Shirik | help |
| 06:30.22 | Shirik | I have lost a class |
| 06:30.36 | Shirik | it keeps being called in my code but I swear it doesn't exist |
| 06:36.16 | SqueeG | Torhal :D |
| 06:36.28 | SqueeG | May I pick your brain a second? |
| 06:37.03 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 06:37.25 | Cairenn | tackles Sargeras and huggles the stuffins out of him |
| 06:37.34 | Sargeras | oh my |
| 06:37.40 | Sargeras | hai there |
| 06:38.20 | Cairenn | Happy New Year sweetie |
| 06:38.21 | Sargeras | you too! |
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| 07:34.54 | Shirik | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AnRsnwL6Wi5RsBXYMetCIe305nNG;_ylv=3?qid=20100102231928AApxDun |
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| 08:23.10 | DJJeff2 | not sure where I found this but im gonna leave this here............. |
| 08:23.11 | DJJeff2 | http://i49.tinypic.com/mlo9cl.png |
| 08:25.25 | SqueeG | .... why would they do that? |
| 08:25.58 | mikma | private server |
| 08:25.59 | DJJeff2 | I am not at liberty to answer that question |
| 08:26.09 | DJJeff2 | mikma did it for me |
| 08:26.40 | mikma | thats right |
| 08:26.49 | mikma | you are too stupid to do that |
| 08:26.55 | DJJeff2 | do what? |
| 08:26.56 | DJJeff2 | lol |
| 08:27.06 | DJJeff2 | I was the one that made that .png |
| 08:27.33 | DJJeff2 | just wasn't sure I was allowed to mention why I made it |
| 08:27.59 | DJJeff | hrmmmm time to launch wow and see if I can login |
| 08:28.12 | mikma | cairenn: kick djjeff, he's doing private server stuff!!! |
| 08:28.25 | robotusch | amg |
| 08:28.58 | DJJeff | no such luck *sigh* |
| 08:29.07 | DJJeff | wasn't worth it |
| 08:29.35 | Cairenn | didn't we just have this discussion the other day? |
| 08:29.59 | DJJeff | we had one about staff |
| 08:30.08 | DJJeff | I know that one |
| 08:30.16 | DJJeff | nothing about messing with DNS |
| 08:30.34 | Cairenn | it was about Private Servers (in part) |
| 08:30.40 | DJJeff | hrmmmm |
| 08:30.54 | Cairenn | just don't do it, okay? |
| 08:30.55 | DJJeff | I must have been absent minded during that discussion |
| 08:30.58 | DJJeff | ok |
| 08:31.03 | DJJeff | I will quit |
| 08:31.10 | Cairenn | thank you |
| 08:31.12 | DJJeff | its fair |
| 08:31.35 | DJJeff | seeks out some other irc channel to brag into |
| 08:32.23 | mikma | kick hiiiiiiim! |
| 08:32.30 | Cairenn | no need if he |
| 08:32.34 | mikma | lights the fire |
| 08:32.40 | Cairenn | he's going to follow the rules |
| 08:32.45 | mikma | burn the (private server) witch! |
| 08:32.59 | Cairenn | pokes mikma |
| 08:33.11 | mikma | was it a sharp wooden stick? |
| 08:33.17 | Cairenn | nope |
| 08:33.27 | Cairenn | cooked spaghetti noodles |
| 08:33.27 | mikma | good, cause that would kill me! |
| 08:33.46 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmmmm I wasn't trying for a private server I was trying for a "proof of concept" and clueing blizzard in to fix it maybe |
| 08:33.54 | mikma | now, getting poked with that would require a) megaforce, b) lots of skills |
| 08:34.00 | DJJeff | so more people would stop using private and come public |
| 08:34.04 | Cairenn | that's fine, DJJeff |
| 08:34.20 | DJJeff | public is scarce as it is |
| 08:34.24 | DJJeff | *sigh* |
| 08:34.28 | Cairenn | not |
| 08:34.38 | DJJeff | with all these rolling restarts im not surprized |
| 08:34.51 | ZorbaTHut | I'm pretty sure there are a lot more people using the public servers than there are private servers. |
| 08:34.57 | Cairenn | public is not scarce |
| 08:35.03 | Cairenn | don't be ridiculous |
| 08:35.07 | ZorbaTHut | also, rolling restarts tend to occur in the dead of the night, and last about 15 minutes at most. that's why they're "rolling". |
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| 08:38.25 | Wobin | haha dead of night |
| 08:38.26 | Wobin | haha |
| 08:39.24 | Cairenn | for their time, yes |
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| 08:54.32 | Shirik | kicks Shiibot |
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| 09:00.37 | Shirik | hey guys |
| 09:00.40 | Shirik | how severe is this? http://wowi.pastey.net/130924 |
| 09:01.07 | DJJeff | filesystem check? |
| 09:01.08 | DJJeff | nice |
| 09:01.28 | DJJeff | what was mounted at /dev/xvda ? |
| 09:01.33 | DJJeff | anything important? |
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| 09:02.08 | DJJeff | do you have a GUI Based filesystem thingy |
| 09:02.15 | DJJeff | to see whats mounted and whats not |
| 09:02.34 | DJJeff | what OS is this? |
| 09:02.41 | DJJeff | errrrrrr linux flavor |
| 09:02.42 | Shirik | Linux,and that should be my main drive |
| 09:02.47 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmmm |
| 09:03.13 | DJJeff | maybe it cant check it well its in use |
| 09:03.30 | DJJeff | you would need to boot from a live cd and then check it |
| 09:04.16 | DJJeff | nothing to scream about its just a filesystem check |
| 09:04.21 | Shirik | mount: special device /dev/xvda does not exist |
| 09:04.22 | Shirik | what the fuck |
| 09:04.30 | DJJeff | hahahahaha |
| 09:04.31 | DJJeff | nice |
| 09:04.45 | Shirik | wtf did linode do this time |
| 09:04.55 | DJJeff | is this in your dmesg? |
| 09:05.10 | DJJeff | can you ummmmmmmmm # dmesg | grep xvda |
| 09:05.16 | DJJeff | and see what comes up |
| 09:05.28 | DJJeff | anything? |
| 09:05.59 | DJJeff | too big? |
| 09:07.03 | DJJeff | # dmesg | grep xvda > /home/<insertuser>/Desktop/dmesg |
| 09:07.14 | DJJeff | then open it with editor |
| 09:07.16 | DJJeff | IDK |
| 09:07.17 | DJJeff | lol |
| 09:07.31 | DJJeff | good luck with that |
| 09:09.56 | Shirik | Kernel command line: root=/dev/xvda xencons=tty console=tty1 console=hvc0 nosep |
| 09:09.57 | Shirik | =32768 ip_conntrack.hashsize=8192 nf_conntrack.hashsize=8192 ro |
| 09:09.57 | Shirik | blkfront: xvda: barriers enabled |
| 09:09.57 | Shirik | xvda:<6>device-mapper: ioctl: 4.7.0-ioctl (2006-06-24) initialised: dm-devel@re |
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| 09:11.09 | DJJeff2 | sorry my modem pooped a big crap |
| 09:11.19 | DJJeff2 | how did that dmesg come along |
| 09:11.23 | Shirik | I'm not even sure I'm in my own OS right now |
| 09:11.39 | DJJeff2 | can you # ls -l /home/ |
| 09:11.43 | Shirik | wait what the hell |
| 09:11.44 | DJJeff2 | and see a folder you know |
| 09:11.45 | Shirik | if |
| 09:11.53 | Shirik | if I'm looking at the contents right now |
| 09:12.02 | DJJeff2 | what flavor of linux are you on? |
| 09:12.07 | Shirik | how does /dev/xvda not exist |
| 09:12.12 | DJJeff2 | ubuntu 9.10 is my fav |
| 09:12.16 | Shirik | Gentoo |
| 09:12.18 | DJJeff2 | hrmmmmmmm |
| 09:12.30 | Shirik | ?? /dev/root on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,data=ordered) |
| 09:12.33 | Corrodias | slackware is the answer. |
| 09:12.42 | Shirik | I am so confused |
| 09:12.47 | DJJeff2 | can you ummmmmmmmm # dmesg | grep xvda |
| 09:12.54 | DJJeff2 | and see anything? |
| 09:12.56 | Shirik | I did |
| 09:13.01 | DJJeff2 | what came up? |
| 09:13.15 | DJJeff2 | ping |
| 09:13.20 | DJJeff2 | pong? |
| 09:13.39 | Shirik | hang on I'm issing another reboot and not going into maintenance mode |
| 09:13.40 | Shirik | see what happens |
| 09:14.39 | Shirik | I think my server has lost its mind |
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| 09:14.57 | DJJeff3 | pooooooooooopy |
| 09:15.07 | DJJeff3 | anyone in CANADA never use TELUS as your ISP |
| 09:15.12 | DJJeff3 | they phail hard |
| 09:15.21 | DJJeff3 | my modem craps out like crazy |
| 09:16.24 | Shirik | beautiful! |
| 09:16.27 | Shirik | From my recovery partition: |
| 09:16.29 | Shirik | [*] Creating unionfs overlay... mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on /ramdisk/FINNIX failed: Invalid argument |
| 09:16.29 | Shirik | mount: mounting none on /ramdisk/UNIONFS failed: No such device |
| 09:16.45 | DJJeff3 | I am sooooooo lost |
| 09:16.46 | DJJeff3 | lol |
| 09:17.07 | DJJeff3 | PING |
| 09:17.10 | DJJeff3 | PONG? |
| 09:18.57 | Shirik | no! |
| 09:19.13 | Shirik | Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. |
| 09:19.14 | Shirik | I win |
| 09:23.53 | Shirik | modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.18.8-linode22/modules.dep: No s |
| 09:23.53 | Shirik | uch file or directory |
| 09:23.58 | Shirik | I think that might be what's going on |
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| 09:56.02 | Shirik | Whee, people in #gentoo fixed it |
| 09:56.09 | Shirik | My kernel somehow got out of date |
| 09:56.30 | Shirik | and incompatible with the system |
| 10:10.06 | Shirik | has dark chocolate |
| 10:10.09 | Shirik | taunts Cairenn |
| 10:13.37 | Corrodias | :( |
| 10:14.08 | Corrodias | man, i like visiting my parents |
| 10:14.24 | Corrodias | it's so relaxing compared to my usual workdays or even vacations at home |
| 10:14.56 | Shirik | I don't |
| 10:15.01 | Shirik | they say I spend too much time on the computer |
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| 10:17.26 | Shirik | DJJeff2: The guys in #gentoo fixed the problem |
| 10:21.18 | Corrodias | that's probably just the default joke answer they give to scare off noobs trying to ask them questions |
| 10:21.34 | Corrodias | "yeah, you're gonna have to modify and recompile your kernel" |
| 10:23.27 | Shirik | lol, no |
| 10:23.35 | Shirik | they had a valid justification, and I can't even compile the kernel |
| 10:23.58 | Shirik | one of the features currently in the system was relying on a newer kernel feature, and then going "wtfhax" when it wasn't there |
| 10:24.15 | Shirik | It's not all THAT new, but Linode is still running its "stable" build off of a modified 2.6.18 |
| 10:24.22 | Shirik | which is quite old |
| 10:24.29 | Corrodias | and now i have curiosity: what is the new feature? |
| 10:24.55 | Corrodias | only mild curiosity; don't tax yourself to find it |
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| 10:40.35 | Shirik | Corrodias: it had something to do with udev |
| 10:40.39 | Shirik | I really don't understand enough |
| 10:41.32 | Corrodias | ah |
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| 10:45.20 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:45.24 | Shirik | careful |
| 10:45.29 | Shirik | Shiibot is back and he will destroy you |
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| 10:45.56 | Fisker | he couldn't |
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| 10:54.58 | Shirik | night night |
| 10:57.52 | Fisker | sweet dreams Shirik |
| 11:04.56 | Vilkku | anyone know if you can add nots with slash command using handynotes? |
| 11:05.17 | EthanCentaurai | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:05.32 | EthanCentaurai | adds a note to your location |
| 11:07.25 | Vilkku | but you can't add to other locations than your own?k |
| 11:08.14 | EthanCentaurai | not by slash command, not that I know of |
| 11:11.48 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: does gentoo's default kernel have xen support? |
| 11:13.15 | Corrodias | does it have support for leet neon highlights and spinnin' rims? |
| 11:13.54 | Fisker | HES SLEEPING ARROWMASTER |
| 11:16.25 | Corrodias | are you a creepy stalker? |
| 11:17.49 | Corrodias | btw, i got my tv tuner card and deinterlace filter working, -finally- |
| 11:18.15 | Fisker | yes i am |
| 11:20.00 | Corrodias | the tuner card and/or video card and/or windows still deinterlace half the time on their own, but the other half i finally convinced ffdshow to deinterlace too |
| 11:20.19 | Corrodias | i couldn't get the audio in working, but i can always use my line-in jack for that |
| 11:22.48 | Fisker | your tuner sucks |
| 11:23.52 | Corrodias | i daresay it's the dearth of good, free viewing software for windows that makes the situation suck |
| 11:24.10 | Corrodias | i'm working with what i've got. |
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| 13:14.43 | zenzelezz | interesting HoL heroic random... rogue at ~8000 DPS, death knight at ~3500, me (tank) at ~2300 (more than usual, lots of AoE in there), lock at ~1600 |
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| 13:30.39 | wereHamster | lock only so little dps? |
| 13:31.03 | wereHamster | isn't a lock supposed to be a damage dealer? |
| 13:33.45 | Gnarfoz | wereHamster: sure, they're one of the 'pure' dps classes |
| 13:34.03 | Gnarfoz | was probably some bad :p |
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| 13:37.17 | foxlit | Depends on the context, really. lock only so little dps *where*? |
| 13:38.21 | amro | foxlit: [14:14] <zenzelezz> interesting HoL heroic random... rogue at ~8000 DPS, death knight at ~3500, me (tank) at ~2300 (more than usual, lots of AoE in there), lock at ~1600 |
| 13:38.38 | foxlit | old heroics are a crappy place to gauge dps. |
| 13:39.03 | foxlit | Especially with that sort of distribution -- locks have annoyingly high wind-up times, iirc; things die before they manage to do a single rotation. |
| 13:40.37 | foxlit | [Of course, that does not preclude your warlock from being undergeared/unaware of what he is doing; it's just that classes with more direct attacks tend to do better around low-hp targets] |
| 13:41.07 | Fisker | warlock should be aoe'ing foxlit |
| 13:41.12 | Fisker | what's the rotation there? |
| 13:41.18 | Fisker | rain of fire, rain of fire, rain of fire, rain of fire? |
| 13:41.27 | foxlit | people still rain of fire? |
| 13:41.36 | Fisker | idk |
| 13:41.36 | nevcairiel | hellfire, hellfire, hellfire? |
| 13:41.45 | foxlit | soc, soc, soc? |
| 13:43.43 | Fisker | you know what i hate foxlit ? |
| 13:43.59 | foxlit | Life, the universe, and everything, Fisker? |
| 13:44.08 | Fisker | yes |
| 13:47.39 | zenzelezz | now there's an interesting name... "Cumshock" |
| 13:47.51 | zenzelezz | shaman, obviously |
| 13:48.24 | Fisker | reported |
| 13:50.54 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, rogues have real nice front-loaded damage. warlocks don't. |
| 13:55.44 | zenzelezz | I suppose the real interesting thing about that HoL was that after the Slag pit, the lock was at ~250 DPS - but as you've said, it could just be he's been unlucky. I only know how to play a warrior, so I wouldn't be surprised if I had misunderstood the lock |
| 13:56.40 | zenzelezz | he was also quite obviously much less geared than the rogue |
| 13:59.09 | amro | wow-europe hates me right now, does anyone have a link to the slim downloader or torrent? |
| 13:59.44 | ZorbaTHut | 250dps for the entire instance, or just for the slag pit? |
| 13:59.56 | Fisker | i think the downloaders are coded amro |
| 14:00.16 | ZorbaTHut | 'cause I can sorta see the rogue just splattering all the slagpit dudes, but if he's at 250dps for the entire instance so far, he's doing something wrong :P |
| 14:00.22 | zenzelezz | ZorbaTHut: from start to slag pit I think. Was the rogue that kept spamming it, so I don't know really |
| 14:00.36 | ZorbaTHut | yeah that's pretty dang bad then |
| 14:00.39 | amro | Fisker: coded as in? |
| 14:00.43 | ZorbaTHut | although recount has trouble with cross-server groups |
| 14:00.50 | Fisker | your account info etc. |
| 14:00.50 | zenzelezz | that could be it |
| 14:00.56 | Fisker | you know, lol piracy and such |
| 14:01.15 | amro | Fisker: the .torrent can't be coded though |
| 14:01.36 | Fisker | true |
| 14:02.02 | foxlit | main.c:12: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type |
| 14:02.06 | Fisker | doesn't seem to be the case anyways |
| 14:02.10 | foxlit | Curse you, sanity. |
| 14:02.16 | Fisker | http://www.wow-europe.com/shared/downloads/InstallWoW_enGB/InstallWoW.exe |
| 14:02.18 | Fisker | can you get that? |
| 14:02.45 | amro | no, I don't get any response from wow-europe.com after the initial handshake |
| 14:02.53 | nevcairiel | i do |
| 14:03.00 | amro | (it happens with other sites, ISP fuckup) |
| 14:03.07 | Fisker | can you get dcc? |
| 14:03.31 | amro | I guess? never used it |
| 14:04.38 | amro | hey, neat. this interface is cooler than most downloaders |
| 14:04.40 | Gnarfoz | sounds like wrong MTU, RWIN or some other shit |
| 14:04.48 | Gnarfoz | (less than ISP fuckup, at least) |
| 14:04.59 | amro | Fisker: danke |
| 14:05.03 | Fisker | i fucked your mother Gnarfoz |
| 14:05.04 | Fisker | fyi |
| 14:05.10 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: most certainly |
| 14:05.40 | Fisker | you're not half the man your mother was |
| 14:05.44 | amro | Gnarfoz: it'll work again when the ISP isn't getting pounded (ie late night/early morning) |
| 14:06.17 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: so fucking my mother qualifies as gay sex? I approve |
| 14:06.36 | Fisker | nope |
| 14:06.41 | Fisker | fuck you qualifies as straight sex |
| 14:06.44 | Fisker | fucking* |
| 14:06.50 | Gnarfoz | for girls, yes |
| 14:06.55 | Gnarfoz | we all know you're one ;P |
| 14:07.20 | Fisker | no |
| 14:07.23 | Fisker | your mother is a girl |
| 14:07.28 | Fisker | you are not as much as a man as your mother |
| 14:07.33 | Gnarfoz | amro: I'd check just to be sure, tho - dropped connections is something no ISP should annoy you with |
| 14:07.33 | Fisker | i.e. you are a girl |
| 14:07.50 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: sorry, english doesn't work that way |
| 14:07.54 | Fisker | also i want my nexus one now |
| 14:08.20 | Fisker | i will actually blow up the world if it's not out soon |
| 14:09.35 | amro | Gnarfoz: did I mention that the ADSL signal dies on average 20 times per day? |
| 14:09.46 | amro | and that bandwidth drops to 5kb/s at peaktime? |
| 14:09.56 | Gnarfoz | is this one of these living room ISPs? |
| 14:10.08 | amro | no, it's a national ISP |
| 14:10.15 | amro | and a national shame |
| 14:10.19 | Fisker | Is your shit setup right? |
| 14:10.26 | amro | yep |
| 14:10.29 | Fisker | because it probably isn't |
| 14:10.35 | Fisker | How far from your phoneline to the adsl router? |
| 14:10.48 | amro | they just accepted about 25 times more subscribers than their infrastructure can handle |
| 14:11.02 | Fisker | that's not much actually |
| 14:11.16 | amro | then it must be 250 times |
| 14:11.23 | Fisker | that sounds more like it |
| 14:11.33 | amro | I already talked to the regional director |
| 14:11.50 | amro | every single connection is a bottleneck |
| 14:11.50 | Fisker | But still if you got a long distance between your phoneline and modem/router then it'll be fuckeed |
| 14:11.53 | Fisker | fucked* |
| 14:12.05 | amro | nah that's fine, because it used to work pretty well |
| 14:12.20 | amro | till they decided that they were too cool subscriber caps |
| 14:12.31 | amro | too cool for* |
| 14:13.18 | Gnarfoz | sounds awesome |
| 14:14.18 | amro | yep. they're "thinking" about upgrading their auth server, which gets slammed so hard it gets ddosed by legit clients |
| 14:14.48 | Fisker | i love my ISP |
| 14:14.59 | Fisker | free warez over NNTP & 20/2 Mbit |
| 14:15.01 | Fisker | \s |
| 14:15.18 | Fisker | They're like totally stupid |
| 14:15.28 | Fisker | "Oh so you're pirating off the news servers? take that!" |
| 14:15.35 | Fisker | *installs bandwitdh limit* |
| 14:15.47 | Fisker | *Sets up several connections, bypassing the bandwitdh limit* |
| 14:15.48 | Fisker | lolz |
| 14:16.07 | Fisker | not that i'm pirating anything of course! |
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| 14:31.38 | Kraps | theres another 5 bucks to the black hole that is steam |
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| 14:41.02 | foxlit | mm? |
| 14:41.34 | Fisker | indee Kraps :( |
| 14:41.42 | Fisker | indeed* |
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| 16:03.40 | Kraps | trine + braid = another 7.48 |
| 16:06.48 | zenzelezz | who in the what now? |
| 16:10.31 | Kalroth | Kraps: They locked my account because I bought too many games :P |
| 16:12.18 | ScytheBlade1 | huh? |
| 16:12.37 | Kalroth | Steam |
| 16:12.43 | zenzelezz | "dude, stop giving us money!" |
| 16:12.49 | ScytheBlade1 | really? |
| 16:12.53 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf |
| 16:13.06 | Kalroth | They got some sort of anti-fraud shit on their CC transactions |
| 16:13.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 16:13.19 | ScytheBlade1 | You started using different cards |
| 16:13.19 | Kalroth | I bought like 15 different games in ~1 month, which triggered it |
| 16:13.28 | Kalroth | Was all small amounts, $2-10 |
| 16:13.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ... nah, no chance that was it |
| 16:13.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I've grabbed over 40 this month |
| 16:13.52 | ScytheBlade1 | er |
| 16:13.54 | ScytheBlade1 | last month |
| 16:13.59 | ScytheBlade1 | "within the last 30 days" |
| 16:14.12 | Kalroth | Well my account was new'ish too - I contacted support and they did unlock it, so that was it :) |
| 16:14.13 | zenzelezz | did you buy them all independently? |
| 16:14.29 | ScytheBlade1 | a lot of them |
| 16:14.56 | zenzelezz | it does sound weird, but I could understand it if they unlocked it without complaining when you contacted them |
| 16:15.31 | amro | hrm is there a trick to get Installer.exe to run on wine now? it crashes at the EULA screen |
| 16:18.54 | wereHamster | one day someone should make a clean install, make a torrent of it and upload that to TPB - after all, WoW doesn't need anything in the registry |
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| 16:27.25 | ZorbaTHut | I admit I've occasionally done three separate transactions on Steam within 20 minutes |
| 16:27.28 | ZorbaTHut | I always feel a bit dumb |
| 16:28.02 | ZorbaTHut | steam is getting substantially less dangerous for me though |
| 16:28.17 | ZorbaTHut | I'm at the point where I'm looking at their deals and saying "yep, those are pretty good deals. pity I've already got all those games" |
| 16:33.12 | Fisker | hello ZorbaTHut |
| 16:33.32 | ZorbaTHut | yo |
| 16:33.36 | Fisker | Yeah i've got like a bunch of games that i don't play that much anymore :( |
| 16:33.43 | Fisker | But i still got them just to get them on steam again |
| 16:34.11 | ZorbaTHut | yeah same |
| 16:34.13 | Fisker | Beats a spreadsheet and having to pirate and crack the game every time i want to play again :P |
| 16:34.17 | ZorbaTHut | I grabbed X-Com Apocalypse because, c'mon |
| 16:34.20 | ZorbaTHut | X-Com Apocalypse |
| 16:34.30 | ZorbaTHut | I have so many fond memories of knocking down entire buildings with high explosives |
| 16:34.37 | Kalroth | haha |
| 16:34.58 | ZorbaTHut | that's one thing Apoc did brilliantly that the original didn't. widescale destruction. |
| 16:35.52 | ZorbaTHut | oh man I have over two pages of steam games now |
| 16:35.55 | ZorbaTHut | fullscreened |
| 16:36.04 | ZorbaTHut | on a 30" LCD monitor at native resolution |
| 16:36.08 | ZorbaTHut | that is too many games |
| 16:37.14 | Kalroth | I broke 90 games rather quickly :P |
| 16:37.28 | Kalroth | most of them are from packages though |
| 16:37.47 | Kalroth | eidos pack was like 20 games at least |
| 16:38.09 | ZorbaTHut | I sort of wish there was an easy way to count them |
| 16:38.10 | Kalroth | thq pack too |
| 16:38.12 | ZorbaTHut | I don't want to, you know |
| 16:38.14 | ZorbaTHut | count them |
| 16:38.20 | Kalroth | uhm, check your community page |
| 16:38.23 | ZorbaTHut | and yeah, I've got a good numbe rof games from packs |
| 16:38.24 | Kalroth | it does it :p |
| 16:38.38 | Kalroth | "View all 96 games |
| 16:38.38 | Kalroth | " |
| 16:38.40 | ZorbaTHut | whoa nice |
| 16:38.43 | ZorbaTHut | 156 games :D |
| 16:39.07 | ZorbaTHut | (pretty sure I've got the thq pack, eidos pack, lucasarts pack, and almost everything telltale has put out) |
| 16:39.30 | Kalroth | yeah, i got lucas art too, it was too cheap to pass on |
| 16:39.48 | Kalroth | id software pack too |
| 16:39.55 | ZorbaTHut | I don't think I got id |
| 16:40.33 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, the only thing interesting to me in there is Commander Keen |
| 16:40.38 | Kalroth | http://store.steampowered.com/sub/440/ it was like $13 for a while |
| 16:40.46 | ZorbaTHut | oh nice |
| 16:40.52 | ZorbaTHut | probably would've gotten it for $13, admittedly |
| 16:41.07 | Kalroth | I like Q3 arena, played that a lot way back |
| 16:41.27 | ZorbaTHut | I went more into the UT direction, I was getting sick of deathmatch by then |
| 16:41.33 | ZorbaTHut | UT had more variety |
| 16:42.02 | zenzelezz | I remember UT (the original)... was quite a lot of fun |
| 16:42.19 | zenzelezz | the 2003/2004/3 weren't bad as such, but didn't feel quite the same to me |
| 16:43.13 | Kalroth | oh yeah, new offers up in 15 mins |
| 16:43.53 | Kalroth | time to start refreshing http://www.steamgamesales.com/ :P |
| 16:47.20 | zenzelezz | all of a sudden I have an urge to set the UT intro as my mobile's ring tone |
| 16:47.25 | zenzelezz | pity no-one ever calls me |
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| 16:47.43 | Kalroth | aaww |
| 16:48.57 | Fisker | fail Kalroth |
| 16:48.59 | Fisker | no EU view |
| 16:49.07 | Kalroth | what for? |
| 16:49.22 | Fisker | EU prices durr |
| 16:49.42 | Kalroth | They're going to be pretty similar |
| 16:49.53 | Kalroth | click the link and see for yourself! |
| 16:50.21 | Kalroth | you can set the region on the steam pages yourself anyways |
| 16:50.31 | Kalroth | http://store.steampowered.com/app/35700/?cc=us versus http://store.steampowered.com/app/35700/?cc=dk |
| 16:51.13 | Fisker | like the hell if i care Kalroth |
| 16:51.20 | Fisker | i'm lazy |
| 16:51.20 | Kalroth | QQ Fisker! |
| 16:51.26 | Fisker | being able to show EU prices is easy |
| 16:51.27 | Fisker | l2code |
| 16:51.33 | Fisker | alt+w |
| 16:51.39 | Fisker | ctrl+w actually |
| 16:51.46 | Fisker | so long since i've rageclosed a tab |
| 16:52.04 | theorbtwo | Sweet: Oops, this is embarrassing. Due to high demand we have temporarily run out of unique keys for this title. You may, by all means, purchase at the awesome sale price but may not be able to play until we receive more unique product keys. It shouldn't take too long, we have sent armed guards to the publisher's house to get them out of bed, drive them to their secret lair and produce more keys. |
| 16:52.07 | Kalroth | The tears, they're so delicious! |
| 16:52.24 | Kalroth | theorbtwo: yeah, happens from time to time :) |
| 16:52.34 | Kalroth | which game? |
| 16:52.37 | Fisker | which one is that? |
| 16:52.40 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 16:52.43 | theorbtwo | Mass Effect. UK, if it matters. |
| 16:52.46 | Kalroth | ahh |
| 16:53.06 | Fisker | haha awesome |
| 16:53.21 | Kalroth | well they sold out on Prey for $2.25 and replaced it with Mass Effect for $4.99 |
| 16:53.31 | Kalroth | (which they apparently also sold out on) |
| 16:53.34 | Fisker | prey sold out like forever |
| 16:53.40 | Fisker | and no Prey got replaced with Bioshock |
| 16:53.43 | Fisker | Prey = 2K |
| 16:53.43 | Fisker | durr |
| 16:53.44 | Kalroth | oh right |
| 16:53.46 | amro | how can a virtual store be sold out? |
| 16:53.56 | Kalroth | amro: they get a set amount of keys from the publisher |
| 16:53.59 | Fisker | cd-keys amro |
| 16:54.02 | theorbtwo | Wow, that's far cheaper then the UK price (13GBP = 21USD.) |
| 16:54.04 | nevcairiel | You know what was fun, when i tried to register my Doom3 Key in Steam, it somehow thought it was a Prey key and gave me that instead |
| 16:54.09 | amro | wait they still use cd keys? |
| 16:54.09 | nevcairiel | i still giggle about that |
| 16:54.15 | Fisker | some titles do amro |
| 16:54.30 | amro | do any of them ask you to type in phrase 3 from page 12 of the manual too? |
| 16:54.54 | Fisker | Most titles still run authentication servers that require cd-keys |
| 16:54.58 | Fisker | derp derp derp |
| 16:55.16 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: sweet |
| 16:55.26 | nevcairiel | was back when doom3 was released |
| 16:55.31 | nevcairiel | so a few years |
| 16:55.37 | nevcairiel | wonder if they have doom3 on steam now |
| 16:55.38 | amro | limiting the cd keys is still fail, they should have a commission arrangement and access to unlimited keys |
| 16:55.40 | Kalroth | theorbtwo: yeah, it's the same for pound and euro, we get screwed quite often |
| 16:56.08 | nevcairiel | they like just using the same number with a different currency sign |
| 16:56.09 | Fisker | indeed amro |
| 16:56.16 | Kalroth | no nevcairiel |
| 16:56.29 | nevcairiel | 15 usd? ok, 15€ |
| 16:56.43 | Kalroth | check http://store.steampowered.com/app/17480/?cc=us versus http://store.steampowered.com/app/17480/?cc=dk :) |
| 16:57.04 | theorbtwo | amro: The perfect is the enemy of the good -- they could have tried to implement the perfect arrangement, but they'd probably still be hammering out the details. |
| 16:57.17 | Kalroth | The vast majority of the prices are decided by the publisher, not Steam themselves |
| 16:57.34 | Grum | Kalroth: that actually looks okish |
| 16:57.43 | ZorbaTHut | f5 f5 f5 f5 |
| 16:57.47 | Kalroth | Grum: gone in 3 mins :p |
| 16:58.04 | amro | theorbtwo: right, but steam has been going for a while now with hundreds (thousands?) of agreements, you'd think they'd have licensing boilerplates for this by now |
| 16:58.06 | nevcairiel | 10,19 to 8,49 is still a ripoff |
| 16:58.12 | Fisker | Well to be honest Valve could've done a better job |
| 16:58.20 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: Sure, USD is pretty fucking low these days |
| 16:58.22 | Grum | nevcairiel: mwha not that bad :) |
| 16:58.23 | Fisker | Basically they determined the price and said "Got a problem with this?" |
| 16:58.24 | amro | theorbtwo: unless it's the publishers insisting on this archaic scheme |
| 16:58.29 | Fisker | Most publishers said "AWESOME" |
| 16:58.32 | ZorbaTHut | amro, I suspect their philosophy is that they'll try to convince the dealer, and if the dealer won't play, they'll let them dig their own grave |
| 16:58.33 | Grum | 10,19 U.S. dollars = 7,11393466 Euros |
| 16:58.38 | Fisker | and they probably still would've if they had priced it lower |
| 16:58.58 | ZorbaTHut | I strongly doubt that they encourage people to take up that backassward scheme |
| 16:59.12 | nevcairiel | Grum: it doesnt matter in this case because the price is already low, but think about 100 USD vs 85 € .. could've been 75€ easily |
| 16:59.18 | Grum | yeah trye |
| 16:59.26 | alestane | Correction: $10.19 US = 7,11393466 Euros. We use dots for that over here. |
| 16:59.31 | Kalroth | I've had some US friends gift me games, since I saved a ton of money |
| 16:59.36 | Grum | alestane: it was google who told me! |
| 16:59.48 | Kalroth | I used paypal to send them money and they bought the games for me :p |
| 17:00.24 | Grum | paypal gets rich of that as well :) |
| 17:00.25 | ZorbaTHut | haha steam servers melt at the time when the deals roll over |
| 17:00.28 | amro | Kalroth: you can also just make steam think you're in the US, though that might be a risk |
| 17:00.29 | Kalroth | haha, some of the numbers are funny - sherlock holmes collection is $44, but 48 euro :p |
| 17:00.42 | Kalroth | amro: doesn't work, they check your creditcard |
| 17:00.52 | amro | not if you pay with paypal |
| 17:01.05 | Fisker | phew |
| 17:01.08 | Fisker | crap deals for today |
| 17:01.13 | Kalroth | I think they got some paypal API that allows it now |
| 17:01.15 | Grum | who pays for games anyhow :p |
| 17:01.20 | Fisker | my cc details aren't getting used today |
| 17:01.31 | ZorbaTHut | I can't even see the new deals :( |
| 17:01.32 | Grum | (other than wow) |
| 17:01.33 | amro | in the meantime Installer.exe is still being a bitch- any ideas? a torrent perhaps? |
| 17:01.40 | ZorbaTHut | steam is like, what what |
| 17:01.45 | ZorbaTHut | you don't want to buy games do you |
| 17:01.47 | ZorbaTHut | haha didn't think so |
| 17:02.29 | Kalroth | yeah old deals |
| 17:02.38 | Kalroth | I already got most of those games :P |
| 17:02.57 | amro | those deals just piss me off |
| 17:03.13 | amro | seeing something for $5 that you paid $50 for |
| 17:03.28 | nevcairiel | like a year later, or even more? =p |
| 17:03.51 | ZorbaTHut | Please enter your birth date to continue: This data is for verification purposes only and will not be stored. |
| 17:03.51 | ZorbaTHut | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:04.59 | Kalroth | haha |
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| 17:05.40 | ZorbaTHut | pickin' up bioshock myself |
| 17:06.18 | Kalroth | I'm seriously considering it myself, I've played it once, but it was an uhhm, internet-backup and I kinda want to play it again |
| 17:06.28 | amro | nevcairiel: a year is nothing when I have dozens of games on my "to play" list and nowhere near enough free time |
| 17:06.38 | nevcairiel | amro: well then buy later when cheap :D |
| 17:06.40 | ZorbaTHut | looks like they've removed the securom from it, which was my dealbreaker |
| 17:06.50 | amro | nevcairiel: but... can't... resist! |
| 17:08.03 | Wobin | wow, a clean Oglaf |
| 17:11.41 | foxlit | ZorbaTHut: it had the audacity to ask me to log in. Once. |
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| 17:39.07 | Kraps | ZorbaTHut: just change the year when they ask for a date |
| 17:40.24 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 17:40.28 | ScytheBlade1 | click it, and hit home/end |
| 17:41.27 | haste | I found the control system in the bioshock demo so horrible that I never bought the game |
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| 17:44.23 | Kraps | the witcher is kinda like DA:O? |
| 17:44.39 | wakatake | yo, how does PlaceAuctionBid work?? is it for the first tab or second?? |
| 17:53.19 | haste | !api PlaceAuctionBid |
| 17:53.19 | lua_bot | PlaceAuctionBid: Places a bid on (or buys out) an auction item (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/PlaceAuctionBid) |
| 17:56.09 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: I don't know, but I didn't build the kernel. I would think Linode would build it in with Xen support. Would be stupid for them not to. |
| 17:57.33 | nevcairiel | depends on their supervisor |
| 17:57.36 | nevcairiel | is it xen? |
| 17:58.07 | nevcairiel | sadly the xen patches seem to no longer being developed |
| 17:58.36 | nevcairiel | s/super/hyper/ |
| 17:58.41 | nevcairiel | I'm still not awake |
| 18:02.42 | Fisker | supervisor? |
| 18:02.44 | Fisker | lols |
| 18:02.48 | Fisker | you mean hypervisor? |
| 18:02.57 | nevcairiel | i already fixed it! |
| 18:13.13 | Fisker | cuts into nevcairiel |
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| 18:17.19 | zenzelezz | "Grey's Anatomy: The Video Game"... say what? o_O |
| 18:18.00 | industrial | cutes into Fisker |
| 18:20.39 | Fisker | no industrial |
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| 18:27.14 | Fisker | that's what i thought |
| 18:38.13 | amro | zenzelezz: maybe you get to shoot the characters over and over. I'd buy it |
| 18:41.31 | Kraps | farming toc for The Black Heart |
| 18:42.11 | nevcairiel | I had to run just twice |
| 18:42.20 | nevcairiel | and everytime it was full of druids that wanted it |
| 18:42.23 | nevcairiel | but i won the roll :D |
| 18:47.24 | zenzelezz | "It seems some systems are suffering from a Y2K16 bug. When 2009 ticked over to 2010, some Australian EFTPOS machines skipped to the year 2016. Coincidentally, some Windows Mobile users are also having issues with their new year SMSes coming from 2016." |
| 18:47.39 | zenzelezz | im in the future, spending ur monies |
| 18:56.49 | Kraps | ok wtf, a random group wanted to run toc again, so we leave the instance but i couldnt reset it |
| 18:57.18 | zenzelezz | someone still inside? |
| 18:57.20 | A-KO | hahahaha zenzelezz |
| 18:57.48 | wereHamster | I thought the next critical year was 2032 or so |
| 18:57.49 | Kraps | and when we queued again it was 3/3 bosses killed |
| 18:58.50 | zenzelezz | cross-realm? |
| 18:59.16 | Kraps | zenzelezz: yes |
| 19:02.18 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/01/03/funny-pictures-licking-the-outlets/ |
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| 19:11.08 | intangir | does anyone know of an addon that helps you see when polymorphs are being cast on you, so you can shadow word death them right when it is finishing |
| 19:11.56 | ScytheBlade1 | so such addon can be entirely accurate |
| 19:12.20 | ScytheBlade1 | *no |
| 19:12.57 | cbreak | latency is third party influence, and entirely unpredictable |
| 19:13.34 | intangir | ive heard of one befroe that helps, but i cant remember what it was called |
| 19:22.36 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: heroic...? |
| 19:23.10 | intangir | Shadowed: you write a bunch of addons dont you? |
| 19:23.16 | Kraps | Gnarfoz: no |
| 19:23.18 | intangir | pretty sure im using some of yours now |
| 19:26.43 | Polarina | Is there any CVar option that I can use so I can get over 20 FPS in Dalaran using OpenGL on Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS 512? |
| 19:26.52 | Polarina | I have the settings set to maximum. |
| 19:27.12 | amro | lower your settings |
| 19:27.50 | Polarina | Without doing that., |
| 19:27.51 | Adys | Polarina: linux? |
| 19:27.55 | Polarina | s/,// |
| 19:27.58 | Polarina | Adys: Yes. |
| 19:28.03 | Adys | dont count on it |
| 19:28.07 | Adys | dalaran is exceptionally laggy |
| 19:28.07 | intangir | im on linux |
| 19:28.18 | intangir | in dalaran |
| 19:28.37 | intangir | 50fps |
| 19:28.42 | intangir | nvidia 9800 |
| 19:28.47 | intangir | max settings |
| 19:28.50 | Polarina | Weird. |
| 19:28.58 | Polarina | What driver, wine version? |
| 19:28.59 | industrial | theres a big difference between 8800 and 9800 :p |
| 19:29.03 | foxlit | indoors, staring at a wall? |
| 19:29.08 | intangir | lol |
| 19:29.12 | Polarina | foxlit: Outdoors looking at everything. |
| 19:29.12 | intangir | i was in the inn where you port in |
| 19:29.18 | industrial | I have an 8800 and can't count on more then 30fps in wow nowadays |
| 19:29.21 | intangir | it jumps all around 20-50 fps |
| 19:29.23 | intangir | right now its 30 |
| 19:29.24 | amro | foxlit: culling fails hard in wow anyway |
| 19:29.44 | Adys | no, Im on 9800gtx+ and dont count on over 25 fps in dalaran |
| 19:29.45 | intangir | 1.1.32 |
| 19:29.48 | intangir | with pulse |
| 19:29.56 | haste | pulse :( |
| 19:30.00 | Adys | not with settings to max |
| 19:30.00 | foxlit | amro: empirically, there is a large difference between indoor and outdoor dalaran. |
| 19:30.04 | foxlit | They seem to be able to do something. |
| 19:30.06 | Adys | idd foxlit |
| 19:30.10 | haste | why are you using .32 when .35 is out anyway? |
| 19:30.21 | Polarina | I am using 1.1.33 |
| 19:30.22 | intangir | cause i dont get every patch as soon as it comes out |
| 19:30.30 | intangir | also i only get the pulse patched version |
| 19:30.30 | Adys | haste: debian is probably still using 0.9.32 |
| 19:30.32 | haste | it's been out for like three weeks |
| 19:30.33 | intangir | which is usually a bit behind |
| 19:30.37 | amro | foxlit: it still doesn't cull everything that's out of view |
| 19:30.39 | intangir | if it aint broke |
| 19:30.40 | intangir | dont fix it |
| 19:30.42 | haste | pulse :( |
| 19:30.51 | haste | .32 has severe regressions in direct3d :P |
| 19:30.53 | amro | mostly because it can't do so efficiently without preprocessing the maps |
| 19:30.59 | intangir | not using direct3d, opengl |
| 19:30.59 | Ginji | Who uses D3D anyway |
| 19:31.02 | amro | which wouldn't be wise since most of wow is outdoors anyway |
| 19:31.04 | foxlit | amro: True, true. However, it does manage to hit 60 while indoors for me; but struggles around 30 looking at the fountain |
| 19:31.04 | intangir | at least on wow |
| 19:31.06 | haste | I do for other games! |
| 19:31.08 | Adys | everyone on windows Ginji |
| 19:31.12 | intangir | i play spore in this version 100% fine |
| 19:31.15 | Ginji | Who uses windows |
| 19:31.22 | amro | foxlit: I find that it works best if you zoom in fully |
| 19:31.34 | Adys | also, every game that doesnt have an opengl alternative |
| 19:31.41 | foxlit | FPS view in dalaran would be silly, really. |
| 19:32.15 | amro | d3d needs to die |
| 19:32.22 | foxlit | Adys: you're sure you wanted to zip your .bzr directory? |
| 19:32.22 | haste | so does pulseaudio |
| 19:32.36 | amro | the api is so ugly |
| 19:32.41 | Adys | foxlit: likely not, not that it really matters |
| 19:32.57 | Adys | ill fix it need to upload dxt3 changes anyway |
| 19:33.14 | Polarina | Yay! Switching to d3dext boosted my FPS by 10, now 30. :D |
| 19:33.26 | Ginji | All I want is a hardware cursor in opengl |
| 19:33.36 | intangir | A[A[A[A[A[A13:10 [ amro ] [ foxlit ] [ nevcairiel ] [ Tinyboom ] |
| 19:33.46 | intangir | fucking mages are godmode now.. |
| 19:33.49 | nevcairiel | wth |
| 19:33.57 | intangir | we killed this guys partner and he managed to kill me and my teammate 1v2 |
| 19:34.01 | intangir | i got to touch him twice |
| 19:34.04 | intangir | and he evocated to full |
| 19:34.11 | amro | l2interrupt |
| 19:34.13 | intangir | he was double critting me for 5000-6000 with single frostbolts |
| 19:34.19 | intangir | i cant interrupt a guy who i can never touch |
| 19:34.25 | amro | l2touch? |
| 19:34.26 | intangir | im a rogue |
| 19:34.27 | Adys | what class are you? |
| 19:34.29 | Ginji | faildrood |
| 19:34.29 | Adys | wtf? |
| 19:34.30 | amro | hahah |
| 19:34.32 | amro | rogue |
| 19:34.34 | Adys | cloak of shadow |
| 19:34.35 | intangir | you can not get to them at all period... |
| 19:34.41 | amro | yes you can |
| 19:34.47 | amro | and once you do you murder them on the spot |
| 19:34.48 | intangir | i had to use that not to die in 3 seconds while fighhting his rogue |
| 19:34.51 | Adys | you can, mage is dead bread as rogue |
| 19:34.56 | intangir | they blink the instant you touch them |
| 19:35.03 | amro | sprint? |
| 19:35.14 | intangir | ya right you guys obviously have no idea what yuour talking about, mages are the fucking godly masters of kiting rogues now |
| 19:35.21 | amro | good one |
| 19:35.25 | amro | I think you just need to learn to pvp |
| 19:35.28 | Adys | intangir: how about, you're fucking terrible? |
| 19:35.36 | intangir | how about ive been 2300 + |
| 19:35.40 | intangir | 3 seasons |
| 19:35.44 | Adys | oh sorry, that proves your skill |
| 19:35.45 | amro | congratulations |
| 19:35.48 | Ginji | I own at PvP, noone kills me in 1v1 |
| 19:35.58 | amro | Ginji: you rolled a DK? :P |
| 19:36.08 | Adys | amro: hey lets just shut up, the guy's a god, he's 2300+ |
| 19:36.08 | Ginji | Ok, I don't kill them either but that's besides the point |
| 19:36.12 | Ginji | And no, I'm a rogue |
| 19:36.16 | Ginji | I just sit there in stealth |
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| 19:36.22 | amro | that works too |
| 19:36.24 | Ginji | Silly randoms challenging me |
| 19:36.27 | amro | wait for them to get bored and afk |
| 19:36.31 | amro | BAM ambushed |
| 19:37.45 | amro | anyway intangir, you can vanish to retake the initiative, which is way more than a mage can do if you jump them. either way, first attacker usually wins in wow pvp |
| 19:38.05 | amro | so if you can't take out a mage you got the jump on, I don't know what to say |
| 19:38.08 | Adys | amro: dont you dare teach a 2300+ how to pvp |
| 19:38.17 | Adys | he knows what shit he's doing |
| 19:38.26 | Adys | I mean he's a rogue, and did I mention his 2300+ rating? |
| 19:38.29 | ZorbaTHut | I bet his gearscore is like a billion too |
| 19:38.35 | ZorbaTHut | you can't argue with a gearscore of a billion |
| 19:38.37 | Adys | ZorbaTHut++ |
| 19:38.43 | ZorbaTHut | that indicates he is a *superior human being* to you |
| 19:39.14 | Ginji | Aww, my rating has been reset to zero! |
| 19:39.26 | Ginji | There was this one time, I had like 1300! |
| 19:39.43 | Ginji | But that was in the day we started at 1500 |
| 19:42.23 | intangir | was in a fight |
| 19:42.34 | intangir | i wasnt fighting the mage 1v1 |
| 19:42.38 | intangir | and i wasnt fighting him with 2 vanishes.. |
| 19:42.44 | intangir | it was 2v2, mage/rogue vs rogue/priest |
| 19:42.47 | Adys | intangir: maybe he was just 2400+ |
| 19:43.03 | intangir | we got them several times they are much higher rated than we are, full relentless, this is my alt so i dont even have full furious, i had to use alot of cooldowns to get the rogue down before they killed us |
| 19:43.15 | intangir | so then its me with no cooldowns and my priest, vs a mage |
| 19:43.16 | Adys | so wtf are you whining about? |
| 19:43.32 | intangir | im whining that he managed to CC and kill BOTH of us, 1v2, and we couldnt even touch him |
| 19:43.37 | intangir | kite fucking city |
| 19:43.46 | Adys | you sucked ass and he got lucky |
| 19:43.51 | Adys | nothing to see |
| 19:44.50 | Adys | anyway if you want to complain go do it on the official forums where theres a bunch of people ready to agree $class is op and $otherClass isn't |
| 19:50.07 | intangir | hehe we got a team where the rogue was afk ;) |
| 19:50.08 | intangir | funny |
| 19:52.01 | foxlit | *** The _imaging C module is not installed |
| 19:52.03 | foxlit | Meh. |
| 19:52.12 | Adys | foxlit: apt-get install python-imaging |
| 19:52.23 | foxlit | apt-get: command not found |
| 19:52.28 | Adys | terrible |
| 19:52.29 | Duman | heh |
| 19:52.49 | Adys | foxlit: easy_install PIL maybe |
| 19:53.36 | Duman | ps, if you want a huge unfair advantage in PvP, stock up on free-action pots :P |
| 19:53.55 | Duman | 30s of stun/snare/root immunity = ridonkulously OP |
| 19:53.58 | foxlit | Well, that exists, but it whines that it needs a setup script. |
| 19:54.13 | Adys | foxlit: setup script? |
| 19:54.34 | foxlit | Processing PIL |
| 19:54.35 | foxlit | error: Couldn't find a setup script in ${CWD}/PIL |
| 19:54.42 | Adys | foxlit: otherwise install python dev headers and http://effbot.org/downloads/Imaging-1.1.6.tar.gz |
| 19:54.51 | Adys | python setup.py build && sudo python setup.py install |
| 19:55.23 | foxlit | The fun thing is that I'm getting that error after python setup.py build; while running python selftest.py |
| 19:56.07 | Adys | prolly just a terrible version stored on there |
| 19:56.13 | olafski | anyone feel like helping me out a bit with some (tortoise)svn troubles? :< |
| 19:57.15 | Adys | olafski: just explain your issue |
| 19:57.24 | olafski | alright +) |
| 19:57.38 | Adys | also how do you get the remote branch on hg? |
| 19:58.02 | olafski | I accidentally put all my Ace libraries in my main addon folder instead of in Libs\. I want to move them, so I deleted the current versions but now when I try to add the Libs folder tortoise tells me there is nothing to add because everything has been added already |
| 19:58.40 | foxlit | I wonder how it actually builds this. It's clear that it's invoking GCC from somewhere, but the scripts are hidden somewhere |
| 19:58.48 | olafski | I should probably have used Relocate instead I guess |
| 20:02.08 | Yssaril | olafski: are you using the wowace repos or the wowinterface repo? |
| 20:02.17 | olafski | curseforge |
| 20:03.04 | Fisker | slaps foxlit around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:03.06 | Yssaril | then you should not have the ace libraries in your dev folder at all but rather you should use the .pkgmeta file to have the packager pull it in for you |
| 20:03.16 | olafski | hmm |
| 20:03.36 | olafski | is there a KB page about this? I'm not using any pkgmeta information at the moment |
| 20:03.41 | Yssaril | olafski: http://kb.curseforge.com/projects/pkgmeta-file/ |
| 20:04.04 | olafski | ah, found it :) |
| 20:04.06 | olafski | thanks! |
| 20:05.55 | Yssaril | olafski: if you have problems with it i would recommend looking at some of the well known addon repos (ARL, Omen) and see how they do it |
| 20:06.42 | olafski | hmm. if I download those I won't get .pkgmeta though |
| 20:07.28 | Adys | foxlit: distutils does that |
| 20:07.45 | Adys | (a builtin python module to distribute other modules) |
| 20:08.06 | Yssaril | olafski: pull in their files from the repos instead of downloading the zips |
| 20:09.15 | Yssaril | olafski: with .pkgmeta you can even tell it not to include some files. that way you can keep dev files within the version control system and share them with other devs but not expose them to users |
| 20:09.48 | olafski | hmm |
| 20:10.13 | olafski | I'll see what I can do.. I was having a hard time grasping svn already ;p |
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| 20:12.07 | zenzelezz | "Publication dates are not absolutely final yet, but The Evolutionary Void is tentatively scheduled for release in September 2010"... grumble... too long between second and third books :-| |
| 20:15.44 | Adys | foxlit: updated it on wowi if you want the fixed dxt3 version |
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| 20:24.39 | foxlit | Adys: I was actually more interested in the palette code. |
| 20:24.50 | Adys | foxlit: its kinda poor :P |
| 20:25.05 | Adys | foxlit: PIL supports palettes, but only of certain types |
| 20:25.18 | Adys | after 2 hours of trying to figure out the doc I just improvised a getpalette |
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| 20:28.49 | Ancu | Hello all |
| 20:32.37 | Adys | Heya Ancu |
| 20:33.13 | intangir | we beat that one mage/rogue team this time, same one |
| 20:33.15 | intangir | we got mage first |
| 20:33.30 | intangir | got insane ambushes on him when he was dispelled ;) |
| 20:33.33 | intangir | didnt let them get their good openers |
| 20:33.56 | intangir | i only caught hold of him 3 times but i got enough damage those 3 times to kill him ;) no ice shield |
| 20:34.28 | foxlit | Adys: got any example images where BGRA / ARGB / RGBA palette layouts would light up? |
| 20:34.39 | Adys | "light up"? |
| 20:35.02 | foxlit | Become obviously wrong. |
| 20:35.38 | Adys | well, I processed every current icon and worldmap, none of those look wrong with the current code |
| 20:35.44 | Adys | I only have had two paletted images though |
| 20:35.54 | foxlit | There are very few RAW entries in there. |
| 20:36.05 | Adys | ill extract the UI folder |
| 20:36.25 | Shirik | omg, I was cleaning my room and I found some really crazy stuff |
| 20:36.38 | Shirik | My favorite one: A 3D game I used to play on Windows 3.1 |
| 20:37.28 | intangir | which one |
| 20:37.34 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fury_3 |
| 20:37.55 | intangir | 3d? like wolf3d style 3d? hehe |
| 20:38.00 | intangir | duke3d style 3d? |
| 20:38.09 | intangir | fake 3d ;) |
| 20:38.14 | Shirik | no it was real 3d |
| 20:38.19 | Shirik | not GOOD 3d |
| 20:38.22 | foxlit | Cursors seem to fit, but I'm RGBA seems to fit better. |
| 20:38.23 | Shirik | but it was good at the time |
| 20:39.36 | Shirik | I really want to play it on Windows 7 to see what kind of performance I get |
| 20:39.53 | Ancu | speaking of 3d, anyone else seen avatar yet? |
| 20:39.57 | Shirik | I also found Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 |
| 20:40.32 | Shirik | haha, so muh for that :( |
| 20:40.49 | Adys | foxlit: I cant really find anything, got any example of raw files? |
| 20:41.04 | foxlit | Adys: most things in Interface/CURSORS |
| 20:41.32 | Adys | foxlit: are they supposed to be transparent? |
| 20:41.42 | Shirik | The program or feature "\??\D:\~MSSETUP.T\~msstfqf.t\acmsetup.exe" cannot start due to incompatibility with 64-bit versions of Windows. Please contact the software vendor to ask if a 64-bit Windows compatible version is available" |
| 20:41.51 | Shirik | I should do that |
| 20:41.56 | foxlit | Yes, but that is not really the point. |
| 20:42.17 | Adys | well colors look ok |
| 20:42.56 | Adys | foxlit: although i remember reading RAW images didnt support alpha? |
| 20:43.04 | foxlit | Odd. So I'm swapping the channels around while not actually swapping the channels. |
| 20:43.49 | foxlit | The palette's alpha values are always ignored. |
| 20:44.00 | foxlit | But some variations contain per-pixel data. |
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| 20:44.11 | Adys | foxlit: well, b, g, r, a = palette[offset] |
| 20:44.26 | Adys | thats the only mode i use there |
| 20:44.37 | Adys | but all alpha is at 0 |
| 20:45.32 | cbreak | Adys: can you do that without unpack? |
| 20:45.40 | Adys | its already unpacked |
| 20:45.52 | cbreak | well would get the contents of palette[offset] |
| 20:45.55 | cbreak | the others would get nil |
| 20:46.01 | Adys | huh? |
| 20:46.04 | Adys | this is python :P |
| 20:46.09 | cbreak | ... unfair! |
| 20:46.15 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:46.30 | Adys | cbreak: http://dpaste.com/140688/ - relevant code here |
| 20:47.04 | Fisker | fury 3 won't run on my computer Shirik |
| 20:47.10 | Adys | if b > 5: pass |
| 20:47.12 | Adys | wtf is that |
| 20:47.22 | Adys | bloody debug statements |
| 20:49.00 | Adys | foxlit: Well, my only cursor image with alpha is cursoriconsnew.blp and i guess its not raw |
| 20:49.12 | Kraps | black heart got ninjad |
| 20:49.20 | Kraps | stupidstupidstupid |
| 20:49.20 | foxlit | Indeed; that's the boring case. |
| 20:49.27 | Adys | otherwise i dont understand how these cursors can be transparent at all, the alpha value in the palette is always 0 |
| 20:49.40 | Arrowmaster | Adys: this is a Lua channel, no Python allowed |
| 20:50.45 | Adys | Arrowmaster: lua really is python disguised with statements instead of braces |
| 20:51.17 | foxlit | not that lua is that fond of braces either |
| 20:52.05 | foxlit | lua> 4+4+4+4+4+32*4 |
| 20:52.05 | lua_bot | foxlit: 148 |
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| 21:01.31 | olafski | yssaril: can I choose how many spaces I use to indent in my .pkgmeta file? |
| 21:01.47 | nevcairiel | yes, just dont use tabs |
| 21:01.52 | olafski | ok |
| 21:02.06 | Narw | anyone that is quite experienced with openrdx? |
| 21:20.06 | foxlit | Aw crap. |
| 21:20.17 | foxlit | TGAs store color data as BGRA, apparently. |
| 21:21.48 | Adys | foxlit: Well, all of the RAWs I saw do |
| 21:22.13 | foxlit | Yes, yes. |
| 21:22.18 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=BLP_files&diff=2157988&oldid=1746766 |
| 21:22.38 | foxlit | I was just looking at a TGA output was generated by dumping my RGBA array into the file. |
| 21:22.45 | foxlit | So the TGA did a second flip. |
| 21:22.50 | Adys | ah |
| 21:23.16 | foxlit | ARGB is BGRA backwards, so someone might be endian-confused. |
| 21:23.41 | foxlit | [An odd thing to be, but meh] |
| 21:23.51 | Adys | endian-confused |
| 21:24.05 | Adys | that sounds like a very 2010ish buzzword for new sexual fetishes |
| 21:25.01 | foxlit | Ah well, a simple fix. |
| 21:40.34 | Fisker | oh nos jnwhiteh |
| 21:49.04 | Xinhuan | its not, TGA's file format is indeed BGRA |
| 21:55.34 | foxlit | http://www.game-advertising-online.com/b/alteil.jpg << I wonder if that phrasing is an intentional reference to evony |
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| 21:56.07 | Fisker | obviously foxlit |
| 21:56.27 | Fisker | i mean, my lord |
| 22:03.53 | Shirik | Adys |
| 22:03.56 | Shirik | why have you forsaken me |
| 22:04.43 | Adys | I so have |
| 22:05.55 | Adys | Shirik: whats up |
| 22:06.12 | Shirik | I just fixed a bug that I've been trying to find for 2 days :( |
| 22:06.17 | Shirik | The culprit: A missing & sign |
| 22:06.38 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I'm so sorry, Shirik. Missing punctuation sucks it. |
| 22:06.45 | Shirik | C++ needs something like Java's @Override |
| 22:07.31 | Shirik | oh Lopeppeppy! |
| 22:07.33 | Shirik | I was looking for you |
| 22:07.35 | Shirik | but I don't know why |
| 22:08.04 | Lopeppeppy | I am here. Perhaps you will remember. *smile* |
| 22:09.09 | olafski | has anyone here completed the BB king achievement as alliance? I have shot Vol'jin like 8 times now but I can't seem to get credit for it.. even though I got thrall, sylvanas and that blood elf dude on the first shot |
| 22:09.21 | Adys | olafski: keep trying :) |
| 22:10.15 | olafski | yeah I am.. quite a long corpserun |
| 22:10.25 | olafski | was doing it naked but now I equipped some +hit gear instead |
| 22:10.51 | Adys | olafski: hint, stand on the small ledge where the guards are |
| 22:11.05 | Adys | from here you might be able to shoot two or three times |
| 22:11.18 | Adys | more if you got invis/vanish |
| 22:11.36 | olafski | none of that, I'm a DK :< |
| 22:11.44 | olafski | hm I do have my tank cooldowns of course |
| 22:11.54 | olafski | I could shoot 2 times when standing in the middle of the room |
| 22:12.39 | olafski | ha, got him :) tedious achievement |
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| 22:21.32 | Fisker | you disappoint me Shirik |
| 22:22.48 | Adys | foxlit: how do you read Interface/GLUES/Axe2Drak2.png and Frostwyrm01TGA2.blp? |
| 22:24.15 | Fisker | amagad spoilers you jerk! |
| 22:24.32 | Fisker | how i know there's frostwyrms and axes in northrend |
| 22:25.18 | Fisker | now* |
| 22:26.05 | foxlit | Adys: I cannot locate those files. |
| 22:26.23 | Adys | foxlit: they are in locale-engb.mpq |
| 22:26.27 | Adys | or enus |
| 22:26.37 | Grum | you said anus! |
| 22:26.49 | foxlit | Can't extract those locally; just using the UI Kit's interface art data |
| 22:27.00 | Adys | sec |
| 22:27.01 | foxlit | If you upload them somewhere, I could take a look. |
| 22:27.40 | Adys | foxlit: http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/Axe2Drak2.blp |
| 22:27.40 | Fisker | piracy! |
| 22:27.55 | Adys | foxlit: http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/Frostwyrm01TGA2.blp |
| 22:28.10 | Adys | many of the files in GLUES/ are 4-bit alpha dxt3 |
| 22:28.25 | foxlit | Both are DXT3 |
| 22:29.01 | Adys | i think they're supposed to be transparent instead of the brownish background i get |
| 22:29.11 | Adys | but i cant be sure |
| 22:29.34 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/box/Axe2Drak2.png |
| 22:29.46 | Adys | Yeah i get the same |
| 22:30.10 | Adys | wtf |
| 22:30.14 | Adys | did they fuck up the credits UI? |
| 22:30.14 | Adys | ingame |
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| 22:36.31 | foxlit | Hey, they updated it since I last looked. |
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| 22:39.59 | foxlit | Hm, interesting. |
| 22:40.04 | art3mis | yes, yes i am |
| 22:42.36 | foxlit | The client seems to render it as fully opaque |
| 22:43.43 | Adys | good |
| 22:50.16 | Shirik | Error: Expected (copy.Test(diff) == 0.0f), found (-214748352.0666 != 0.0000) |
| 22:50.19 | Shirik | stabulates Adys |
| 22:50.21 | Shirik | it's all your fault |
| 22:51.09 | industrial | http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/748361/4b503928/grootste_scherm_op_het_werk.html |
| 22:51.12 | industrial | lol this guys an ass |
| 22:51.15 | industrial | I like him |
| 22:53.19 | WobWork | that would kill my eyes |
| 22:53.23 | WobWork | being that close to such a large screen |
| 22:53.37 | Adys | Shirik: wai :( |
| 22:53.52 | Shirik | because it is |
| 22:54.08 | industrial | WobWork: yeah but just to uck with the coleagues >:D |
| 22:54.14 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 22:54.15 | Fisker | i hate you |
| 22:54.19 | Shirik | k |
| 22:54.20 | industrial | I have two 40 inch myself though at work >_> |
| 22:54.33 | Fisker | i want the nexus one Shirik |
| 22:54.41 | Adys | [00:54:20] <industrial> I have two 40 inch |
| 22:55.18 | industrial | habeeb it |
| 22:57.14 | zenzelezz | Adys: industrial grew up in a highly radioactive environment |
| 22:57.51 | Adys | writes that down |
| 22:57.51 | WobWork | industrial glows in the dark |
| 22:58.09 | Adys | WobWork: industrial explodes on touch! |
| 22:58.59 | industrial | critical mass |
| 22:59.01 | industrial | >>' |
| 22:59.19 | zenzelezz | Adys: from both of his 40s? |
| 22:59.24 | industrial | damnit. it happened. |
| 22:59.29 | industrial | I actually like a hiphop track |
| 22:59.40 | Adys | industrial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntZT-AJmLBo&feature=related |
| 22:59.42 | industrial | not because its a classic even |
| 22:59.48 | industrial | http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/725731/cf97ca44/broodje_warm_vlees_live.html |
| 22:59.49 | industrial | >_> |
| 23:00.55 | industrial | ~translate nl en broodje warm vlees |
| 23:01.02 | industrial | xD |
| 23:01.41 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle snark* |
| 23:02.20 | industrial | its actually just 'meat sammich' but purl translates funnier :p |
| 23:03.20 | Adys | http://www.wowdb.com/faction.aspx?id=469 |
| 23:03.25 | Adys | stops linking wowdb |
| 23:04.25 | zenzelezz | Adys: what, aren't you happy that the alliance made peace with the Frostwolf clan and the Mag'har? |
| 23:04.30 | Fisker | brrs |
| 23:04.35 | Adys | its not that zenzelezz |
| 23:04.46 | zenzelezz | it's the .aspx, isn't it |
| 23:04.49 | Adys | its the whole thing about Ogri'la; I mean ogres are supposed to be in the horde |
| 23:05.16 | zenzelezz | that's Blizzard's fault, for letting both factions be friendly with them |
| 23:06.34 | Lopeppeppy | Ogri'dee, Orgi'da, life goes on. |
| 23:10.04 | Fisker | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 23:10.54 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Fisker. |
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| 23:12.40 | Fisker | naw |
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| 23:38.40 | Fisker | good night cruel Shirik |
| 23:41.19 | Jerub | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMgWaxtLbwE |
| 23:43.45 | Lopeppeppy | wants footsball. *tragic sigh* |
| 23:44.44 | zenzelezz | proper football I hope |
| 23:44.54 | Lopeppeppy | American, silly, just like I am. |
| 23:45.43 | zenzelezz | that's no excuse to call that "football" |
| 23:47.18 | Lopeppeppy | I call it a flashlight too, dear. Just my american quirks. |
| 23:48.57 | industrial | http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/717401/3c507b35/nunchucks.html |
| 23:49.03 | industrial | *headtablewalldesk* |
| 23:49.07 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: why do you call the sport "flashlight"? |
| 23:50.24 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle* Hide the flashlight is a good sport. |
| 23:50.52 | Lopeppeppy | indie, that was mean. |
| 23:51.19 | zenzelezz | accidentally Lopeppeppy's flashlight |
| 23:51.32 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, you so do not know the game. |
| 23:54.10 | Trela | All of you just lost the game. |
| 23:56.08 | Adys | I'm a genius |
| 23:56.14 | Adys | and I really mean that |
| 23:56.21 | Adys | but nobody here will ever know why |
| 23:56.38 | Adys | except Shirik if I'm nice with him |
