| 00:00.54 | Polarina | I do not find that cute. |
| 00:01.09 | Polarina | It makes me think about that cat's thin throat. |
| 00:01.11 | WobWork | You are cold hearted =( |
| 00:01.22 | WobWork | it is a kitty burrito! |
| 00:01.47 | kdtresh | kitty beer bong? |
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| 00:05.31 | Lopeppeppy | She's very skinny once the fur is all gone. :( But I've jacked up the house heat, and as you see, I'm keeping her bundled up for warms. This is the first time she's sat still in over 24 hours. |
| 00:05.38 | Lopeppeppy | No beer for kitties! *laugh* |
| 00:08.45 | kdtresh | should i get an iphone? |
| 00:09.00 | Thunder_Child | many variables |
| 00:09.11 | Thunder_Child | depends what you want a phone to do |
| 00:09.18 | kdtresh | well, i was "gifted" one |
| 00:09.44 | kdtresh | and now my dad's trying to sow seeds of doubt, trying to make sure i don't want a droid or something |
| 00:10.12 | kdtresh | my personal cell phones have mostly been just phones, with occasional text messages |
| 00:10.26 | kdtresh | i swapped out to a blackjack, mainly to make texting easier, but i don't use internet on it |
| 00:10.33 | kdtresh | i do use internet on my work phone, though |
| 00:10.35 | kdtresh | a palm pre |
| 00:11.00 | kdtresh | and when the wife and i take trips, we always bring it because it's nifty to have internet like that |
| 00:11.33 | kdtresh | but i'll be leaving this job in a month or so, and will no longer have that phone |
| 00:12.02 | Thunder_Child | awesome, 8 lines and not an answer to my question :p |
| 00:12.12 | WobWork | personally I think they're relatively interchangable |
| 00:12.14 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. Then the iphone is gonna be handy to have. If you're not a dedicated smartphone user, what's the advantage of a droid? You've got an iphone in hand. |
| 00:12.26 | kdtresh | well, i've got a gift card for an iphone |
| 00:12.29 | kdtresh | but i'm out of contract |
| 00:12.56 | kdtresh | so i suppose the main question is, do i take the iphone or do i have him get a refund for the card and take that 200 bucks to verizon for a droid or sprint for a pre? |
| 00:13.01 | kdtresh | or a hero or something |
| 00:13.06 | Kraps | so anyone here on an RP server? |
| 00:13.18 | WobWork | Kraps: used to be |
| 00:13.54 | Dolby | kdtresh: if your in the midwest AT&T works good (Wisconsin here). When I go out to CA AT&T sucks |
| 00:14.01 | Kraps | would you say people are more mature on RP servers than on regular ones? |
| 00:14.01 | kdtresh | i'm in nevada |
| 00:14.05 | kdtresh | at&t has pretty good coverage here |
| 00:14.06 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, no. |
| 00:14.12 | WobWork | Kraps: no |
| 00:14.20 | Lopeppeppy | Players are pretty much the same all over. |
| 00:14.32 | WobWork | if you want mature, go specifically to a guild |
| 00:14.48 | WobWork | eg, I play in TheOlderGamers' guild on Proudmoore |
| 00:14.57 | WobWork | must be +25yrs to join |
| 00:14.59 | alestane | Maybe a little more mature, but not significantly. |
| 00:15.02 | Dolby | yeah when I'm in downtown vegas AT&T is ok... 3G is still slower though... Wisconsin I get 2mb/sec, Vegas maybe around 800k/sec |
| 00:15.41 | kdtresh | my wife says at all her conferences there are clusters of iphone people griping because they get crappy signal |
| 00:15.47 | kdtresh | regardless of where in the country the conference is :P |
| 00:15.51 | WobWork | alestane: the mature ones on the RP servers are offset by the ERPers |
| 00:16.03 | Dolby | blizzcon AT&T was offline most of the event |
| 00:16.22 | Nechckn | US PM, WobWork? |
| 00:16.24 | Lopeppeppy | kdtresh, some of that may have to do with area, or what model of phone, etc... but as dolby says... sometimes you just get hosed. |
| 00:16.31 | Kraps | i ask because of this thread http://www.mmo-champion.com/general-discussion/how-different-are-rp-servers/ |
| 00:16.41 | Lopeppeppy | The Blackberry network was down for a few days just before xmas. Sometimes you get hosed. |
| 00:17.19 | Lopeppeppy | RP servers aren't any different at all. The RP rules would make them different, IF they were enforced, which they aren't. Mostly, it's same crap different server. |
| 00:17.41 | Dolby | phones need to be carrier independent with a menu so you can switch service any time you want |
| 00:17.49 | NeoTron | kdtresh: of course you should |
| 00:18.03 | Lopeppeppy | fluffs up Dolby's pillow, that sounds like a sweet dream. |
| 00:18.25 | alestane | Dolby: Probably not going to become common as long as the phones' purchase by the consumer is principally subsidized by a carrier. |
| 00:18.30 | WobWork | point in case: http://community.livejournal.com/dear_gnome/411208.html =) |
| 00:18.41 | WobWork | Nechckn: yeah |
| 00:18.50 | Thunder_Child | Dolby: to much of a billing hassle |
| 00:18.55 | Dolby | yeah, although if i could buy a phone that worked like that I'd pay a good amount for the phone |
| 00:19.08 | Polarina | NICE! Dvorak supported in WoW! No need to change keybindings! :D |
| 00:19.11 | WobWork | Lopeppeppy: well, the RP realms filter out a lot of the morons who come up with stupid names at least |
| 00:19.18 | Dolby | how so? they have your CC on file and bill you on usage |
| 00:19.23 | Arrowmaster | omg mplayer -vo vdpau:deint=4 is fucking amazing compared to the dropdown options in smplayer |
| 00:19.25 | WobWork | (although a lot of them just come up with marginally acceptable RP stupid names instead) |
| 00:19.46 | Lopeppeppy | WobWork, no. Reference what I said about rules not being enforced, dear. :) |
| 00:20.07 | WobWork | Lopeppeppy: I've reported names before =P |
| 00:20.25 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I report them too. Taht doesn't mean they get changed, or if they get changed, they don't just change to something else. |
| 00:20.26 | WobWork | but the very fact that there is a rule in place, even if unenforced, filters out some |
| 00:20.56 | Lopeppeppy | Like the guy who named all of his pets offensive genital slag. That was a hoot. |
| 00:20.56 | WobWork | it reduces the XXXCoolDudeXXX names |
| 00:21.08 | Lopeppeppy | Not really. We had plenty of those. |
| 00:21.20 | Lopeppeppy | Stomprass, Rezrass, Healrass. |
| 00:21.23 | WobWork | but increases the Leggolllasss |
| 00:22.13 | WobWork | hehe, I used to RP ironically at times to make people uncomfortable |
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| 00:23.23 | WobWork | but Goldshire used to be a -terrible- place to visit |
| 00:23.33 | WobWork | mostly due to factors like the Dear_Gnome listed above |
| 00:23.50 | Polarina | I go to Goldshire to report random people when bored. |
| 00:24.03 | Nechckn | WobWork if you see Coopinikos the evil gnome WAR running around, snowball him! |
| 00:24.08 | Kraps | WobWork: they're talking in the thread about things like less childish spam, less leet-itis etc |
| 00:24.21 | WobWork | I just go to the inn, sit on the bed next to the ERPs and make disturbing emotes |
| 00:24.30 | WobWork | Nechckn: crazy alliance! |
| 00:24.48 | Lopeppeppy | Dear Gnome makes me squee with excitement. |
| 00:24.58 | WobWork | Nechckn: if you see a tauren with some variation on the name 'Snuu*' gimme a wave =) |
| 00:25.11 | Nechckn | Hehehehe will do! |
| 00:25.14 | kdtresh | my lock was named phlacid |
| 00:25.16 | WobWork | (I have Snuusnu, Snuupy, Snuustome and Snuuker) |
| 00:25.19 | kdtresh | and some butthead reported him |
| 00:25.25 | Nechckn | really? |
| 00:25.34 | WobWork | we have Qlamidia, the warlock |
| 00:25.34 | Nechckn | That is so tame compared to the names I see |
| 00:25.36 | Nechckn | damn |
| 00:25.40 | WobWork | and Ncephalitus the DK |
| 00:25.58 | alestane | Dare I ask what "ERP" indicates? |
| 00:26.03 | Nechckn | With the xrealm BGs now, I see all sorts of crap |
| 00:26.06 | WobWork | Erotic Role Play =P |
| 00:26.36 | Kraps | Nechckn: how long ago were bgs not xrealm? |
| 00:26.47 | WobWork | 2.2? |
| 00:26.56 | kdtresh | i remember when they implemented the battlegroup for battlegrounds, i saw someone with my name, on my team |
| 00:27.05 | kdtresh | other than me |
| 00:27.18 | Lopeppeppy | There are many Peppy's, but there is only me!! |
| 00:27.33 | Kraps | huggles Lopeppeppy |
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| 00:27.35 | WobWork | I have a guild on my server called "Death by snu snu" |
| 00:27.44 | Polarina | My names are unique. :) |
| 00:28.03 | kdtresh | we have one called <Lincoln wiped on opera> |
| 00:28.11 | WobWork | my DK, Snuusnu hugs every single one of them as he sees them =P |
| 00:28.20 | Nechckn | Yesterday there was like Cawkliquer or something, no joke. |
| 00:28.20 | WobWork | hehe terrible |
| 00:28.25 | Kraps | kdtresh: oh thats cold |
| 00:28.28 | Nechckn | which is not even the worst as of late |
| 00:28.48 | WobWork | Proudmoore can garner some terrible names |
| 00:29.11 | WobWork | but as a whole, I really like the server |
| 00:29.35 | Nechckn | Yeah, the economy is awesomely fast... you can get and sell just about anything, fast. |
| 00:29.52 | kdtresh | is it massively skewed alliance? |
| 00:30.04 | Nechckn | I play on a few others, both factions, and PM is like wild as far as the AH goes. |
| 00:30.13 | alestane | There is one Alestane in WoW that is not me...a blood elf pally that I don't think has leveled since I originally discovered her. |
| 00:30.13 | WobWork | it's horrifically skewed alliance |
| 00:30.17 | kdtresh | so is cenarius |
| 00:30.30 | kdtresh | and it's held together by duct tape, apparently |
| 00:30.59 | kdtresh | if one of the janitors coughs in the direction of cenarius, instances start dying |
| 00:31.00 | WobWork | WG used to be such a joke |
| 00:31.10 | WobWork | and For The Horde? not likely |
| 00:31.18 | WobWork | FTA could field three raids at once |
| 00:31.30 | Lopeppeppy | Argent Dawn is the same, one of the oldest servers around. |
| 00:31.40 | WobWork | I never played Horde on AD |
| 00:31.42 | WobWork | only alliance |
| 00:31.52 | WobWork | or do you mean stability? |
| 00:32.34 | kdtresh | age and stability |
| 00:33.21 | Kraps | where are free realm moves reported? |
| 00:33.24 | WobWork | Lopeppeppy: Are you Ally or Horde on AD? |
| 00:33.53 | Nechckn | The worst one is my BE on Uldaman US.. there are like 20 people, I swear. |
| 00:34.00 | Lopeppeppy | Was alliance. I mostly play with Lunessa now on that other different server. But even not that right now, I only have one working hand. |
| 00:34.53 | kdtresh | i was going to move one or two of my guys off cenarius at the next free xfer |
| 00:35.10 | kdtresh | but the only option was a pvp server in cst |
| 00:35.23 | WobWork | Kraps: https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/character-move-eligible-realms.html |
| 00:35.34 | WobWork | none available atm |
| 00:35.42 | Nechckn | my tauren shaman on KelThuzad may be moving with my druid on Velen just so it is a bit more stable. |
| 00:35.53 | Nechckn | Smaller population, but KT seems to have issues as well. |
| 00:37.10 | WobWork | huh, they reduced the transfer cooldown |
| 00:37.12 | WobWork | to three days =P |
| 00:37.29 | Nechckn | what is it 15 US? |
| 00:37.53 | Kraps | 25 |
| 00:38.08 | WobWork | wtb sliding scale |
| 00:38.12 | WobWork | stat |
| 00:38.42 | WobWork | cause honestly, that'd be the best way of encouraging players to move to lowpop servers and imbalanced factions |
| 00:38.51 | Nechckn | Indeed |
| 00:39.08 | Nechckn | 25 is a bit much, I really thought it was less, tbh. |
| 00:39.10 | WobWork | I don't want to pay $40 to move my mage cross-server and cross faction =( |
| 00:39.33 | WobWork | wait... $55? |
| 00:39.34 | WobWork | >< |
| 00:39.52 | WobWork | did they increase faction change? |
| 00:40.13 | Polarina | Haha! Sitting in a chair with Levitate is funny. :P |
| 00:41.10 | Polarina | WobWork: Just simply reroll, it's not that difficult. |
| 00:41.29 | Kraps | Polarina: it is :/ |
| 00:41.34 | WobWork | I don't particularly want to grind out another character again |
| 00:41.35 | Polarina | It's not. |
| 00:41.50 | Polarina | WobWork: I'll do it for you. |
| 00:41.54 | WobWork | it's boring as hell =P |
| 00:41.55 | Kraps | sorry, time consuming |
| 00:42.09 | Kraps | and boring as hell |
| 00:42.15 | Nechckn | If you have all the BOA goodies it is not bad... otherwise, yucky! |
| 00:42.21 | Polarina | Heirlooms + Dungeon Finder. |
| 00:42.46 | WobWork | I already have a level 72 mage |
| 00:42.55 | WobWork | he's just on the wrong server and faction =P |
| 00:43.09 | Kraps | anyone getting the wow mag? |
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| 00:43.14 | Polarina | Why wrong faction? |
| 00:43.18 | WobWork | what's it got in it? |
| 00:43.25 | WobWork | he's ally, and my guild atm is horde |
| 00:43.37 | WobWork | and the sister ally guild is terrible =( |
| 00:43.42 | WobWork | so unfortuately cliquey |
| 00:43.48 | Kraps | WobWork: 148 pages |
| 00:44.00 | Kraps | and no ads |
| 00:44.10 | WobWork | what sort of content? |
| 00:44.25 | Kraps | http://www.worldofwarcraftthemagazine.com/ |
| 00:44.26 | WobWork | that isn't already covered by wow.com and mmochamp? |
| 00:44.34 | Thunder_Child | WobWork: http://cde.cerosmedia.com/1M4b2f964fedde4303.cde/page/7 |
| 00:45.09 | Kraps | WobWork: its "A deluxe, high-quality, collectible quarterly coffeetable publication." :p |
| 00:45.13 | Lopeppeppy | It's an official bliz magazine! |
| 00:45.26 | Lopeppeppy | with no flash ads to carry malware and stuff |
| 00:45.37 | Arrowmaster | i highly doubt its ad free |
| 00:45.45 | Thunder_Child | it is |
| 00:45.50 | Lopeppeppy | "FLASH" ads, I said. |
| 00:45.55 | Kraps | great art http://cde.cerosmedia.com/1M4b2f964fedde4303.cde/page/7 |
| 00:45.56 | Arrowmaster | ok i highly doubt it will stay ad free |
| 00:46.02 | Lopeppeppy | magazines don't have software, hoy. |
| 00:46.14 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: it's only 4 times a year |
| 00:46.19 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 00:46.25 | Kraps | "Every issue has 148 pages - and NO ads. It's more like a softcover book than a magazine!" |
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| 00:48.25 | Kraps | http://cde.cerosmedia.com/1M4b2f964fedde4303.cde/page/7 |
| 00:49.04 | WobWork | hm, the tanking article is by a tauren prot warrior |
| 00:49.14 | WobWork | but the article art is a spacegoat |
| 00:49.24 | Arrowmaster | my pcgamer subscription is half the price and 3x more issues a year, but its got ads |
| 00:49.37 | WobWork | pcgamer is 50-60% ads =P |
| 00:49.38 | Arrowmaster | $10 an issue is expensive |
| 00:50.24 | Xinhuan | shipping costs |
| 00:50.51 | Xinhuan | pcgamer probably has at least 100x more subscription and they can draw on economies of scale for delivery to teh same area |
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| 01:00.02 | alestane | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/12/30/ went to kind of a weird place. |
| 01:01.51 | Arrowmaster | lol wtf |
| 01:02.18 | Arrowmaster | and the domain is available for purchase |
| 01:02.42 | Hjalte | You don't arrive at Penny Arcade? |
| 01:03.05 | Arrowmaster | not referring to that domain |
| 01:03.15 | cbreak | I wonder for what dumb reason curse |
| 01:03.24 | cbreak | chose to use flash to display a simple BUTTON |
| 01:03.30 | alestane | I think he's referring to ColdTurkeys.com. |
| 01:03.40 | Arrowmaster | cbreak: the download button? |
| 01:03.44 | cbreak | yeah |
| 01:03.49 | Arrowmaster | to break wowmatrix |
| 01:03.51 | cbreak | it's stupid |
| 01:04.04 | cbreak | total pain in the back |
| 01:04.17 | Arrowmaster | it could probably be disabled now |
| 01:05.55 | Kraps | cbreak: in the back? |
| 01:06.09 | cbreak | yeah. spine. |
| 01:06.13 | cbreak | very painful. |
| 01:06.25 | Kraps | sounds like a slipped disk |
| 01:06.37 | alestane | You trying to avoid having Flash enabled or something? |
| 01:06.54 | cbreak | yes |
| 01:07.21 | cbreak | as long as security holes spring into existance faster than adobe bothers to patch them, that is reasonable imho |
| 01:07.50 | alestane | I'm not criticizing the reason so much as making sure I understand it. |
| 01:08.01 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: /qh incomplete feature request: filter out class quests |
| 01:08.32 | cbreak | whitelisting for now |
| 01:25.03 | Polarina | Cairenn, Dolby: How about adding a JavaScript code on WoWInterface that makes some fireworks boom for those that have the page open on midnight, new year's eve? |
| 01:25.15 | Cairenn | :) |
| 01:27.48 | cbreak | how about pretending it's 1999. |
| 01:28.03 | cbreak | I am sure you could imitate the look&feel of a classic geocities page with CSS |
| 01:28.13 | cbreak | and some midi files in the background |
| 01:28.37 | Lopeppeppy | Flashing text. |
| 01:28.41 | alestane | My hunter is much more interesting and effective when I take Bite off of autocast but put a convenient keybind for it into my regular rotations. |
| 01:28.43 | Lopeppeppy | So hawt. |
| 01:28.52 | Polarina | cbreak: :D |
| 01:29.24 | alestane | Broken JavaScript tags cropping up in viewable content, malformed tags, and animated backgrounds? |
| 01:29.42 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, now you're making me dizzy! |
| 01:29.56 | cbreak | and all on one page. |
| 01:29.58 | cbreak | centered |
| 01:30.06 | cbreak | rainbowcolored text |
| 01:30.11 | cbreak | on an animated gif background |
| 01:30.13 | alestane | Wth thick-bordered tables added just for the 3D borders. |
| 01:30.16 | cbreak | (with bad tile stitching) |
| 01:30.20 | cbreak | yes! |
| 01:30.52 | Polarina | :D |
| 01:30.59 | Polarina | hacks up a CSS file. |
| 01:31.04 | alestane | And page view counters in scrolling marquees. And "This page best viewed in Netscape 2.1 or better at 800x600 resolution." |
| 01:31.22 | alestane | Did anyone else happen to see the XKCD main page the day Geocities closed? |
| 01:31.34 | Polarina | Nope. :( |
| 01:34.20 | alestane | For just one day he redid the page with every "I maed a webpaij aint it kewl?" trend that ever appeared in the late 90s. |
| 01:34.31 | alestane | Pretty much everything we've just described. |
| 01:37.46 | Lopeppeppy | it was awesome |
| 01:37.58 | kd3 | if by awesome you mean horrifying |
| 01:38.08 | kd3 | and memories of my first webpage back when I was ~10 or so |
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| 01:38.17 | alestane | It was spot-on was what it was. |
| 01:38.44 | alestane | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.48 | alestane | I feel old now. |
| 01:40.31 | Lopeppeppy | I think I'm older than you are, alestane, so shut it. :P |
| 01:41.08 | alestane | Only by a couple years, Peppy. |
| 01:44.43 | Lopeppeppy | Still. Shut it, kid. *blows raspberries* |
| 01:45.09 | alestane | Why, do you have to feel older if I feel old? |
| 01:45.32 | Lopeppeppy | So, my cat has made it impossible for me to go out for new years, who will be staying in with me? |
| 01:45.32 | Lopeppeppy | It's mandated, alestane! |
| 01:45.32 | WobWork | http://moninavelarde.com/newyears/ |
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| 01:46.35 | alestane | I will be skipping First Night but some friends are throwing a party. |
| 01:47.00 | alestane | I will light some Karma Kandlez or something for you though. |
| 01:47.10 | alestane | (Not a real merchandise AFAIK.) |
| 01:47.40 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, alestane. I think by Monday she'll be okay to be alone while I go to work, but not just yet. |
| 01:47.53 | Lopeppeppy | Plus we're getting snow, and the putative party is an hour away. |
| 01:49.43 | alestane | We're supposed to have snow Saturday. |
| 01:49.55 | alestane | But if you're getting it now it may be here soon. |
| 01:50.01 | Lopeppeppy | Ha, I send you my slightly used snowstorm! |
| 01:50.02 | alestane | I'm in tonight, anyway! |
| 01:50.14 | Lopeppeppy | No, we're getting it tomorrow night and into Saturday. |
| 01:50.28 | Lopeppeppy | Snow tonight wouldn't effect a party tomorrow, silly penguin. |
| 01:50.42 | alestane | I thought it would be odd to have the party tonight. |
| 01:51.00 | alestane | And how come I gots to be a penguin all of a sudden? |
| 01:51.10 | Lopeppeppy | What animal would you prefer to be next? |
| 01:51.34 | WobWork | a lion, rawwr! |
| 01:52.17 | alestane | I guess it's okay as long as aI can at least be one of those loopy penguins with the feather headresses. |
| 01:54.01 | Lopeppeppy | I dunno those kinds. |
| 01:54.23 | WobWork | =O |
| 01:54.55 | WobWork | http://susty.com/image/fiordland-crested-penguins-hold-hands-fins-flippers-walk-on-rocks-look-right-beaks-feathers-cute-adorable-animals-wildlife-biota-environment-nature-photo.jpg |
| 01:55.05 | alestane | Not the best picture but http://icestories.exploratorium.edu/dispatches/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/macaroni-penguin.jpg |
| 01:55.08 | WobWork | that link is such a terrible abuse of SEO |
| 01:55.23 | Lopeppeppy | Macaroni penguins? They need cheese sauce. |
| 01:55.42 | alestane | I think it's cause they have a feather stuck in their cap. |
| 01:55.51 | WobWork | personally? http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5Gq2ImzLPDI/SehFqPAI-1I/AAAAAAAAA5Q/D1xlF-CD4Bs/s400/FeathersMcGraw.jpg |
| 01:56.02 | WobWork | "Good grief! It's YOU!" |
| 01:57.49 | WobWork | http://isbw.murlafferty.com/2009/12/30/special-fundraiser-buy-an-ebook-help-a-cause/ |
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| 02:18.42 | alestane | I'm finding it very frustrating that the default color for my pet's focus bar is the same shade of brown as most of STV. |
| 02:18.55 | Lopeppeppy | Swamp of Sorrows too, baby. |
| 02:20.14 | alestane | Haven't been there yet on my hunter. |
| 02:20.43 | Lopeppeppy | You should go there too in your 30's, much to kill and skin, like the Nesingwary quests. |
| 02:22.36 | alestane | Already 43. |
| 02:22.46 | alestane | Did the 30s stuff in Theramore. |
| 02:26.14 | cbreak | missing diplomat :) |
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| 02:36.35 | Shirik | AHAHAHHAHA |
| 02:36.38 | Shirik | omg we fail |
| 02:36.47 | Shirik | Sartharion just went unvulnerable at 8000 health |
| 02:37.43 | kd3 | oops |
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| 02:38.44 | Adys | [333551.961787] xchat[1726] general protection ip:43f1ac sp:7fff1a6c61a0 error:0 in xchat[400000+9c000] |
| 02:38.46 | Adys | wtf is that? |
| 02:38.52 | Adys | it made x crash |
| 02:39.02 | Adys | it happened just as shirik was saying "omg we fail" |
| 02:39.09 | Shirik | epic win |
| 02:39.10 | Adys | if thats a hint of some kind. |
| 02:39.17 | Shirik | it's a segfault |
| 02:39.18 | cbreak | who's that again? |
| 02:40.33 | Shirik | the guy with 3 drakes |
| 02:41.34 | kd3 | eeesh 1.6G resident memory |
| 02:41.37 | kd3 | failtastic, AOM |
| 02:42.03 | cbreak | right. I remember. |
| 02:42.14 | Iriel | So shirik can crash X remotely via IRC, that's impressive |
| 02:42.54 | Shirik | yup |
| 02:42.56 | Shirik | I'm awesome |
| 02:43.11 | Arrowmaster | kd3: you trying to run AOM in wine or something? |
| 02:43.28 | kd3 | ya. it works |
| 02:43.53 | kd3 | but aom on native leaks memory like a sieve on the initial parse. so it's just as bad on wine |
| 02:44.39 | Thunder_Child | ~Shirik++ |
| 02:46.14 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: buy me the EOS-1D mark IV please, it does exactly what i want. |
| 02:46.24 | Shirik | I've been looking at that too |
| 02:46.57 | Shirik | but yeah I need to save my money for lenses :( |
| 02:47.15 | Arrowmaster | kd3: god you watch shit thats just as bad as i watch |
| 02:47.22 | Thunder_Child | but....102,400 ISO |
| 02:47.35 | Thunder_Child | and low-light HD vid |
| 02:47.35 | kd3 | meh. some of it I didn't go in knowing it was that bad |
| 02:48.05 | kd3 | some of it -- dokuro-chan for instance, I did and rather enjoyed even with the crap rating |
| 02:48.09 | kd3 | >.> |
| 02:48.28 | Arrowmaster | i wasnt meaning crap ratings, but yeah dokuro-chan is awesome |
| 02:50.12 | Arrowmaster | ment stuff like Kanokon and KissXSis |
| 02:50.23 | kd3 | guilty pleasures++ |
| 02:51.15 | Arrowmaster | why do you have higurashi but have it marked as unwatched |
| 02:51.32 | kd3 | there's crap I've got downloaded yet haven't gotten around to watching yet |
| 02:51.39 | kd3 | there's a good backlog, actually |
| 02:51.42 | kd3 | anyway, sec. door |
| 02:54.43 | alestane | Have discovered that my new PS3 can download a substantial anime library at fairly reasonable prices, I am debating whether I want to take advantage of this. |
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| 02:55.45 | cbreak | legal? |
| 02:55.59 | alestane | I believe so, it comes through Netflix or soemthing. |
| 02:56.06 | cbreak | then don't consider it |
| 02:56.08 | Arrowmaster | but its all dubbed |
| 02:56.16 | cbreak | legal downloads are all DRM crippled |
| 02:56.19 | alestane | That will diminish the appeal, yes. |
| 02:56.21 | Arrowmaster | and dubbed |
| 02:56.37 | cbreak | so you will probably lose access as soon as the company decides to switch systems, folds, or what ever |
| 02:56.57 | Arrowmaster | if its netflix its only renting anyway |
| 02:57.01 | cbreak | legal downloads are just not worth the hassle and risk |
| 02:57.08 | cbreak | hmm. ok, that's something else |
| 02:57.30 | alestane | Some content is purchasable...and for $2 an episode, I'd hope it was purchased. |
| 02:58.29 | Arrowmaster | way too expensive |
| 02:58.59 | alestane | Compared to $20 for a disc of 4 episodes? Or compared to ripping it off over some torrent? |
| 02:59.13 | Adys | Cide: you here? |
| 02:59.16 | Cide | yep |
| 02:59.24 | Adys | Design problem |
| 02:59.38 | Adys | tag = HtmlTag("(%i) Set: %s" % (amount, url(spell, text=spell.spell and spell.spell.description or "Unknown spell #%i" % (spell.spell_id))), tag="li") |
| 02:59.51 | Adys | spell.spell and spell.spell.description or "Unknown spell #%i" % (spell.spell_id) |
| 02:59.52 | Adys | that |
| 02:59.53 | Arrowmaster | if you purchase discs you shouldnt purchase individual discs, those are also way too expensive |
| 03:00.06 | Adys | I've got this kind of check all over the place, its extremely repetitive |
| 03:00.11 | alestane | Even $40 for a season is prety close in price. |
| 03:00.17 | Arrowmaster | its like $80 for a disc of 2 episodes for some crap |
| 03:00.46 | Cide | Adys: um, why not make that part of spell.__unicode__? |
| 03:00.58 | Cide | or some other method |
| 03:00.58 | Arrowmaster | in japan i mean, they dont sell for $80 in the us |
| 03:01.00 | Adys | because, spell.spell will return None |
| 03:01.20 | Adys | hold on fixing something rq |
| 03:01.43 | Cide | ya, but spell is an object |
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| 03:01.57 | Cide | what class is it? |
| 03:02.11 | Adys | its a django Model |
| 03:02.12 | Arrowmaster | alestane: ok the stuff i purchase comes close to $2 an episode i guess but those are 1 hour episodes and not 30 minute episodes |
| 03:02.16 | ChaosInc | you all are officially fired |
| 03:02.21 | Adys | gimme a sec this doesnt make sense |
| 03:02.22 | Cide | Adys: there you go, then |
| 03:02.41 | Adys | Cide: the thing is, it wont return a django model |
| 03:02.41 | Arrowmaster | just got 80+ 1 hour episodes for $50 |
| 03:02.44 | Adys | it will return None |
| 03:02.54 | Adys | this makes no fucking sense wtf |
| 03:02.55 | Adys | TypeError: sequence item 0: expected string, SpellTool found |
| 03:02.58 | Cide | what, no? |
| 03:03.08 | Cide | spell.spell and spell.spell.description or "Unknown spell #%i" % (spell.spell_id) |
| 03:03.18 | Cide | you're assuming spell is != None |
| 03:03.18 | Adys | Cide: I modified django so it doesnt raise retarded exceptions when an object isnt found |
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| 03:03.26 | Adys | oh |
| 03:03.34 | Adys | OH |
| 03:03.41 | Adys | i thought you meant spell.spell |
| 03:03.42 | Kraps | You know she wants it big |
| 03:03.46 | Cide | nope |
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| 03:04.53 | Adys | def __unicode__(self): |
| 03:04.53 | Adys | return self.spell.description |
| 03:04.54 | Adys | huh |
| 03:04.57 | Adys | wtf |
| 03:05.12 | Cide | you're using strings atm |
| 03:05.26 | Adys | yah |
| 03:05.32 | Cide | you probably need u"(%i) Set: %s" % ... |
| 03:05.50 | Adys | I fixed it |
| 03:05.53 | Adys | tag = HtmlTag("(%i) Set: %s" % (amount, url(spell), tag="li") |
| 03:05.54 | batbot | Adys, burl, curl, furl, hurl, purl, Ur, Ural, urn, Ur l, Ur-l. |
| 03:06.01 | Adys | def __unicode__(self): |
| 03:06.01 | Adys | return self.spell and self.spell.description or "Unknown spell #%i" % (self.spell_id) |
| 03:06.06 | Adys | batbot: foff |
| 03:06.34 | Cide | yeah I'm pretty awesome |
| 03:06.49 | Adys | Cide: but the thing is i still got this kind of check in pretty much every __unicode__ |
| 03:06.56 | Adys | but hold on, fixing something else atm |
| 03:07.07 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/70563/protectors-of-life/ |
| 03:07.10 | Adys | way to make sense wtf |
| 03:07.18 | Cide | well you need to let the objects format themselves and do those checks themselves |
| 03:07.30 | Cide | instead of having that crap all over the place |
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| 03:07.53 | Cide | I don't think further abstraction than that is useful or even desirable |
| 03:08.32 | Adys | HAHAH FUCK |
| 03:08.37 | Adys | Fucking fallbacks |
| 03:09.02 | Adys | Errors should never pass silently. |
| 03:09.20 | Adys | bite me where it hurts |
| 03:09.22 | Cide | that's why you don't patch django to not throw useful errors ;) |
| 03:09.34 | Adys | thats something else |
| 03:09.50 | Arrowmaster | thats why you dont use django |
| 03:09.59 | Cide | lul wut |
| 03:10.00 | Adys | url() was falling back to returning raw value if it couldnt string it |
| 03:10.37 | Adys | that said, theres a very good reason I patched django with this |
| 03:11.07 | Adys | if i didnt, I wouldnt even be able to support objects with weak links |
| 03:11.41 | Cide | huh? |
| 03:11.41 | Adys | I added an add_constraint=False switch |
| 03:11.56 | Adys | eg Page object: |
| 03:11.56 | Adys | next_page = ForeignKey("Page", null=True, blank=True, related_name="page_next_page", add_constraint=False) |
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| 03:12.13 | Cide | what does that do that null doesn't? |
| 03:12.24 | Adys | it allows me to keep the id |
| 03:12.31 | Shirik | Who's bored and knows C++? |
| 03:12.35 | Shirik | Find a way to make this legal: http://codepad.org/mxIPTvjo |
| 03:12.38 | Cide | <--, in theory |
| 03:12.47 | Adys | it was that, or store in non-foreignkeys or retarded shit like that |
| 03:13.33 | Cide | no clue Shirik |
| 03:13.34 | Adys | Shirik: Send it to the ISO c++ guys |
| 03:13.36 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, the concept isn't legal or typesafe, so, can't be done |
| 03:13.53 | Shirik | yeah I'm trying to think now about how it would be implemented, and it would be very dangerous |
| 03:14.08 | ZorbaTHut | http://codepad.org/ol8bBiSE <-- how could line 8 possibly be legal |
| 03:14.10 | Cide | Adys: wait, you're keeping the id but what? |
| 03:14.31 | Adys | Cide: Kay, say I have a spell, which creates an item |
| 03:14.34 | ZorbaTHut | anyway afk now, good luck :) |
| 03:15.01 | Shirik | oh crap |
| 03:15.01 | Adys | Spell.created_item doesn't actually exist, because I didnt gather it for some reason |
| 03:15.09 | Shirik | http://codepad.org/RNJTh5gu is what I meant, and it's legal |
| 03:15.10 | Adys | say 3 days later I do gather it, upload it to the db |
| 03:15.14 | Shirik | that makes a lot more sense :) |
| 03:15.16 | Cide | ah, right |
| 03:16.01 | Adys | if i used a null value, it wouldn't automatically update to a foreign key instead of a non-error-throwing page |
| 03:17.42 | Adys | when I was still working on importing data to the db, I had a bunch of different solutions which were bad and worse |
| 03:18.26 | Adys | use my wdbc lib as backend; use a sql raw mirror of wdb files without relations; create dummy objects for every missing relation |
| 03:19.20 | Cide | I'd probably have created a new field type based on fkey |
| 03:19.30 | Adys | I considered this too |
| 03:20.03 | Adys | but at that point, I could just modify fkeys, which was a lot faster and .. in the end, surprisingly more stable |
| 03:20.28 | Adys | Some django dev douche was all "You're doing it so wrong", and he proposed me "his solution" which involved some django-importer |
| 03:20.42 | Adys | it required human input for pretty much every fucking row |
| 03:21.07 | Adys | I hate that guy, he made me waste almost two weeks before I told him to fuck off |
| 03:21.15 | Cide | who? |
| 03:21.20 | Kraps | last stand + enraged regen = 15k+ heals ftw |
| 03:21.20 | Adys | dont remember. |
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| 03:21.32 | Cide | surely you can't hate someone you don't remember! |
| 03:21.41 | Adys | I sure can |
| 03:21.44 | Cide | druids don't have last stand |
| 03:21.46 | Adys | I found his blog later on |
| 03:21.52 | Cide | james bennett? |
| 03:22.00 | Adys | no, not a core dev |
| 03:22.06 | Adys | the guy was all kind of racist on it |
| 03:22.20 | Adys | discriminatory bullshit |
| 03:22.26 | Adys | good-glad I got away from the SOB |
| 03:24.04 | Adys | Ah there he is |
| 03:24.11 | Adys | http://code.google.com/p/django-data-import |
| 03:24.16 | Adys | he deleted his blog |
| 03:30.29 | Dolby | Polarina: those that load the website on 12:00:00:00 will see a picture of Cairenn. It goes away at 12:00:00:01 |
| 03:33.42 | Xinhuan | not like what cairenn's looks like is any secret anyway! |
| 03:34.16 | alestane | Despite her best attempts. |
| 03:35.14 | mikma | http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/wulff/1466/20091223.gif |
| 03:35.21 | Dolby | yeah, we already have a pic posted of her: http://www.wowinterface.com/cairennpose.jpg |
| 03:35.41 | alestane | I have a signed 8x10 glossy. |
| 03:35.46 | alestane | ... |
| 03:35.59 | alestane | ...of her forum avatar, yes. |
| 03:36.22 | Cairenn | just shakes her head |
| 03:36.23 | Dolby | here is one of her at disney http://www.wowinterface.com/cairennpose2.jpg |
| 03:37.09 | alestane | It's a perfectly worthwhile picture to keep, Cairenn. |
| 03:37.14 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 03:40.05 | alestane | Night all. |
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| 03:40.32 | Adys | night alestane |
| 03:41.40 | Kraps | is currently listening to Incubus - Drive |
| 03:42.43 | Shadowed | There was a picture of her up from last Blizzcon too for like an hour :p |
| 03:43.40 | Cairenn | there are lots of pictures of me around |
| 03:44.23 | Shadowed | Are there? I've never exactly felt the urge to hunt them down! |
| 03:44.31 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 03:44.50 | ChaosInc | Cairenn is somewhere between a super hot chick and the droppings from my cat :p |
| 03:44.57 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 03:45.34 | ChaosInc | scout around the forums, there's some posted in there somewhere |
| 03:46.11 | ChaosInc | oh, and up your resolution and my images won't stack lady ;) |
| 03:46.33 | Cairenn | :p |
| 03:47.04 | ChaosInc | not that it matters now, changed it to the murky one, with the CORRECT spelling now |
| 03:47.58 | ChaosInc | really? it's this hard to find a note card template for word and/or excel? wtf |
| 03:48.21 | Cairenn | if it was wide enough to not show side by side on my screen, then it was too wide |
| 03:48.42 | ChaosInc | buy a wider screen then :p |
| 03:49.36 | Cairenn | beats ChaosInc over the head with the rules: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=684&postcount=2 (note the bottom of the post, and the attachment) |
| 03:50.05 | ChaosInc | why are you linking pics of cucumbers? :0 |
| 03:51.18 | Adys | borrows Cairenn to mod mmoc signatures |
| 03:51.31 | ChaosInc | meh, "Anything exceeding these limits will be removed without notice." :p |
| 03:51.40 | Cairenn | yup |
| 03:51.43 | Adys | that's actually nice |
| 03:51.45 | Adys | I tend to ban |
| 03:51.52 | Adys | if they piss me off, its permanent |
| 03:51.55 | Cairenn | and at least I was nice enough to give you a chance to fix it yourself |
| 03:52.04 | ChaosInc | aww, I'z special! |
| 03:52.11 | ChaosInc | *hugs* |
| 03:52.43 | Cairenn | Adys: depends on what the sigs are |
| 03:53.04 | Cairenn | 9 times out of 10 we'll just go into their account and remove the sig with a comment as to why it's been removed |
| 03:53.12 | Cairenn | the other 1 time, though .... /ban |
| 03:53.34 | Cairenn | (talking regular, legit users, not bots/scam/spam) |
| 03:53.37 | Adys | 3 times out of 10, I'm too lazy and let someone else sort it out and not ban the poor guy |
| 03:53.48 | ChaosInc | lol |
| 03:53.48 | Adys | the rest of the time, since I'm there, might as well ban |
| 03:53.53 | Cairenn | heh |
| 03:54.12 | Adys | if Im feeling really nice it's a one-digit number for the duration |
| 03:54.28 | Adys | if I'm pissed off, it's a 10-12 digit number |
| 03:54.32 | ChaosInc | grr, aight, looks like I'm making my own template |
| 03:55.17 | Thunder_Child | bans Adys 10 times out of 10 |
| 03:56.06 | Adys | laughs at Thunder_Child as he doesn't have +o |
| 03:58.28 | Thunder_Child | who said anything about irc Adys? |
| 03:58.40 | Adys | you cant ban me elsewhere! |
| 03:59.19 | Thunder_Child | you dont know that |
| 03:59.25 | Thunder_Child | all we use are aliases |
| 03:59.54 | Kraps | damn i need a third spec |
| 04:00.14 | Jerub | I want a google wave bot that will look up the gera of people i mention in a wave |
| 04:10.05 | Zhinjio | anyone care to lend an opinion? |
| 04:10.22 | Zhinjio | which font is most readable: |
| 04:10.23 | Zhinjio | http://www.gamepants.org/images/fonts1.png |
| 04:10.29 | Zhinjio | those colors will be used |
| 04:12.11 | ChaosInc | Calibri |
| 04:12.34 | ChaosInc | makes my eyes bleed a little less than rest |
| 04:15.16 | Cide | calibri is generally awesome |
| 04:15.48 | Cide | for Andulus, the 8 looks like a delta |
| 04:17.44 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 04:17.47 | Zhinjio | okey dokey |
| 04:17.48 | Zhinjio | thanks |
| 04:18.12 | Arrowmaster | i dont like any of them |
| 04:18.40 | Arrowmaster | add terminus bold to it |
| 04:19.28 | Arrowmaster | some of those have some really horrible smoothing |
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| 04:53.47 | ChaosInc | YOU GUYS ARE TOO QUIET!!! |
| 04:54.19 | Thunder_Child | right, because yelling is going to help |
| 04:55.14 | ChaosInc | obviously it does :p |
| 05:10.03 | kd3 | eesh |
| 05:10.29 | kd3 | 'hey kd3: come give me a hand. it'll only take a few minutes' |
| 05:10.34 | kd3 | 3 hours later... |
| 05:11.00 | batrick | u |
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| 05:18.07 | DJJeff | anyone in here wanna be recuit'ed to WoW? |
| 05:18.12 | DJJeff | that is not playing already |
| 05:18.24 | DJJeff | looking to get the 300XP *sigh* |
| 05:18.56 | DJJeff | I play on thorium brotherhood (role playing realm) |
| 05:19.37 | ChaosInc | kind of an odd place to be asking for new players |
| 05:19.51 | DJJeff | you never know |
| 05:19.52 | DJJeff | lol |
| 05:20.06 | ChaosInc | pretty sure that if they aren't playing, they don't even know about this IRC |
| 05:20.07 | DJJeff | peoples accounts get stolen or closed and wanna start again |
| 05:20.16 | DJJeff | true I guess |
| 05:20.23 | DJJeff | but still doesn't hurt to ask |
| 05:20.33 | ChaosInc | indeed, but I like to point out the obvious |
| 05:20.54 | DJJeff | better then asking in craigslist M4M |
| 05:20.56 | DJJeff | lmfao |
| 05:20.59 | ChaosInc | it's like going on the wow forums and asking if anyone has an active account, which you need to actually access the forums |
| 05:21.05 | ChaosInc | screw craigslist |
| 05:21.33 | DJJeff | I am asking in Strictly Platonic right now *sigh* |
| 05:22.34 | ChaosInc | and without a poptart. shame on you |
| 05:24.43 | DJJeff | hahahahaha |
| 05:24.51 | DJJeff | I have something better to offer then food X_X |
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| 05:32.15 | Shirik | what do you mean "recruited to WoW" DJJeff? |
| 05:33.32 | Cairenn | sign up a friend, get bonus exp |
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| 05:34.32 | DJJeff | your a channel mod and dont know what that is Shirik |
| 05:34.40 | DJJeff | *falls on the floor* |
| 05:34.52 | Shirik | oh that recruit |
| 05:34.53 | Cairenn | DJJeff: I'd suggest being polite to my staff |
| 05:35.01 | Shirik | Yeah I was thinking something a lot worse |
| 05:35.49 | DJJeff | suggest? *wouldn't it just be a good idea?* |
| 05:36.11 | Cairenn | that was my polite way of telling you to behave |
| 05:36.16 | DJJeff | im very easy to get along with |
| 05:36.19 | Cairenn | but I can be blunt if you'd rather |
| 05:36.20 | DJJeff | I really am |
| 05:36.51 | DJJeff | just found it funny that a wow dev staff doesnt know what that was |
| 05:37.05 | DJJeff | how long has it been around |
| 05:37.15 | kd3 | we're not wow devs |
| 05:37.18 | Cairenn | you could have meant any number of things |
| 05:37.24 | Cairenn | he was asking for clarificatioin |
| 05:37.40 | DJJeff | http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=20588 |
| 05:37.45 | Cairenn | ... |
| 05:37.48 | Cairenn | we know about that |
| 05:37.59 | Cairenn | but you could have been talking about something else, as I said |
| 05:38.02 | DJJeff | yes.... I wasn't sure Shirik did |
| 05:38.08 | Cairenn | ... |
| 05:38.49 | Cairenn | *clue* |
| 05:38.49 | DJJeff | I clearly stated in my original message that I was talking about WoW |
| 05:38.49 | Cairenn | . . . |
| 05:38.49 | DJJeff | [9:18:19p] <DJJeff> anyone in here wanna be recuit'ed to WoW? |
| 05:38.53 | DJJeff | ohhhhhh |
| 05:38.55 | DJJeff | typo |
| 05:38.58 | DJJeff | *sigh* |
| 05:39.05 | DJJeff | recruit'ed |
| 05:39.14 | DJJeff | I left out my "r" |
| 05:39.19 | DJJeff | very sorry |
| 05:39.24 | Cairenn | you could have been talking about a private server, you could have been talking about gold selling, you could have been talking about ..... |
| 05:39.25 | Cairenn | he |
| 05:39.26 | Cairenn | was |
| 05:39.27 | Cairenn | asking |
| 05:39.28 | Cairenn | for |
| 05:39.31 | Cairenn | clarificatin |
| 05:39.33 | Cairenn | period |
| 05:39.55 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmmm I see where your coming from |
| 05:40.01 | Cairenn | mocking the channel ops isn't the way to make friends |
| 05:40.19 | DJJeff | i've been in here long enough to know that I dont play a private server |
| 05:40.32 | DJJeff | as for gold selling? |
| 05:40.34 | DJJeff | hrmmmm |
| 05:40.45 | DJJeff | nah..... asking for a friend to play WoW |
| 05:40.52 | DJJeff | isn't gold sellinhg |
| 05:40.55 | DJJeff | selling* |
| 05:41.05 | kd3 | you'd be surprised at the dumbass requests we get in here for against-the-tos stuff |
| 05:41.23 | DJJeff | I haven't spotted any really X_X |
| 05:41.29 | DJJeff | must have good staff in here |
| 05:41.30 | kd3 | the going assumption is 'idiot trying to buy gold/get on a pserver' unless proven otherwise |
| 05:41.35 | Cairenn | and hence, ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION, not 'being stupid' |
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| 05:42.05 | DJJeff | right........ im not arguing his asking for clarif...... |
| 05:42.18 | DJJeff | im just loling that he misread my question |
| 05:42.25 | Cairenn | he didn't |
| 05:42.50 | kd3 | my first thought was 'advertising a pserver?', by the way |
| 05:43.36 | DJJeff | I cant stop loling here |
| 05:43.58 | DJJeff | how do you get "private server" out of me asking to recruit someone to wow |
| 05:43.58 | kd3 | like I said, "...until proven otherwise" |
| 05:44.05 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [DJJeff!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (lol this) |
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| 05:44.22 | kd3 | because someone's asked that question before trying to recruit for a pserver |
| 05:44.27 | DJJeff | that was mean *sigh* |
| 05:44.42 | kd3 | tolerance levels on new year's eve aren't all that high |
| 05:44.48 | DJJeff | I bet |
| 05:44.51 | Cairenn | that was yet another attempt to give you a clue, before going to the final step |
| 05:44.52 | DJJeff | high stress levels |
| 05:45.54 | DJJeff | I pay $ for Curse Premium ...... which supports addon authors |
| 05:46.01 | DJJeff | I see about 4 authors in here |
| 05:46.06 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:46.16 | Cairenn | and that has what to do with this? |
| 05:46.21 | DJJeff | I should atleast be able to relax in here |
| 05:46.31 | Cairenn | (plus if you think there are only 4 authors in here, you really have no idea) |
| 05:46.47 | Cairenn | what the hell does Curse Premium have to do with this channel? |
| 05:46.49 | DJJeff | im sure there are tons more |
| 05:47.00 | DJJeff | I see 4 without looking at the list |
| 05:47.04 | DJJeff | of 139 ppl |
| 05:47.14 | kd3 | now now cairenn, we're site-agnostic in here, right? |
| 05:47.17 | kd3 | winks |
| 05:47.28 | Cairenn | kd3: yes, we are, precisely my point |
| 05:47.33 | NightHawkTheSane | I see four in the first few pages of my scrolback... |
| 05:47.41 | DJJeff | im trying to say.... I fully support addon authors |
| 05:48.05 | DJJeff | I do miss Cartographer though |
| 05:48.20 | Thunder_Child | ~lart NightHawkTheSane |
| 05:48.20 | purl | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at NightHawkTheSane |
| 05:49.16 | DJJeff | ......moving on now...... (back to my frozen chocolate milk and looking for WoW addons) |
| 05:49.30 | kd3 | mmm... chocolate milk |
| 05:49.34 | kd3 | wanders downstairs |
| 05:49.35 | Thunder_Child | wow, the account cancelation system really need an overhaul |
| 05:49.43 | Thunder_Child | needs* |
| 05:49.51 | kd3 | tc; how's that? still not updated for bnet? |
| 05:49.53 | DJJeff | I put it in the freezer by mistake |
| 05:50.37 | Thunder_Child | kd3: no, some of the questions ar just silly (e.g. quitting because of the 1.9 patch issues.) or...well....silly, like quitting for Oblivion |
| 05:50.52 | kd3 | lmao |
| 05:53.10 | Thunder_Child | awesome, there is another reason "I dont want my credit card charged" |
| 05:55.40 | Arrowmaster | that sounds like its for 'stop charging my credit card, im just going to get prepaid cards every month and use them' |
| 05:55.48 | Thunder_Child | yes, my new reason for qutting is "No Computer" |
| 05:55.50 | Arrowmaster | not really quiting |
| 05:56.09 | Thunder_Child | "We are sorry to hear that you'll be unable to join us in the World of Warcraft. Due to the nature of this game a computer is required to play." |
| 05:56.20 | Thunder_Child | this is amazingly fun |
| 05:56.56 | DJJeff | lmao........ |
| 05:57.01 | DJJeff | if you dont have a computer |
| 05:57.06 | DJJeff | there is always a friend |
| 05:57.10 | DJJeff | or cyber cafe |
| 05:57.22 | DJJeff | dumb excuse to quit wow |
| 05:57.49 | DJJeff | but oh yeah... cyber cafe's die because people have internet @ hom |
| 05:57.50 | DJJeff | home |
| 05:58.15 | DJJeff | catch 22 when you loose yours or it breaks down |
| 05:58.30 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 05:58.38 | DJJeff | your not gonna goto the library to play WoW |
| 05:58.44 | Arrowmaster | i should cancel my account and put the reason 'leaving for matrix online' |
| 05:58.53 | DJJeff | nah |
| 05:58.54 | DJJeff | nah |
| 05:58.55 | Thunder_Child | is that still going? |
| 05:59.00 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 05:59.03 | DJJeff | leave for "STAR TREK ONLINE" |
| 05:59.06 | Arrowmaster | servers shut down a few months ago |
| 05:59.11 | DJJeff | the new MMORPG |
| 05:59.22 | DJJeff | I signed up for STO beta |
| 05:59.23 | Thunder_Child | isnt on the list |
| 05:59.32 | Thunder_Child | and i will most def be playing STO |
| 05:59.34 | Arrowmaster | "Console - Wii" |
| 05:59.45 | Thunder_Child | they have all of the consoles |
| 05:59.52 | Thunder_Child | well, newer ones anyway |
| 06:00.39 | DJJeff | STO still in closed beta |
| 06:00.55 | Thunder_Child | where is "Console - Atari" |
| 06:01.34 | DJJeff | why not "Computer - Commadore 64" |
| 06:01.44 | DJJeff | I still have mine ;) |
| 06:01.53 | DJJeff | coding in BASIC |
| 06:01.56 | Thunder_Child | because it's only consoles or games |
| 06:02.06 | DJJeff | darn |
| 06:02.24 | Iriel | "I'm leaving WoW to hack on my TI-85 Mk. II" |
| 06:02.48 | Iriel | I doubt the numbers are there to make that a worthwhile option |
| 06:02.52 | Arrowmaster | "Customized realm-to-realm transfers are not available at this time. We are aware of the demand for such a feature, and we do have plans to offer a fee based character transfer service in the future." |
| 06:03.06 | Arrowmaster | this is from the subscription cancel page |
| 06:03.20 | DJJeff | some told me you can get 2 free char transfers? |
| 06:03.24 | DJJeff | is this a lie? |
| 06:03.27 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 06:03.35 | Thunder_Child | like i said, it's badly in need of an overhaul |
| 06:03.40 | DJJeff | brb I have someone to smite |
| 06:03.56 | Arrowmaster | i copied that from "(NEW) Character/Account Issue" |
| 06:04.26 | Thunder_Child | yet, there is at least one new one i saw (i think) |
| 06:04.43 | Thunder_Child | there was something about the will of the forsaken change, though that might have been a diff change |
| 06:06.41 | Arrowmaster | i know that used to exist but i dont see it anymore |
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| 06:06.52 | Thunder_Child | it's under other |
| 06:09.28 | Arrowmaster | "If you choose to deactivate your subscriptionâ you will still be able to play until your currently paid for time expires on January 5, 2010 3:24:04 AM. The peon is full-on weeping now. We hope you're happy. Are you positive you want to deactivate your subscription?" |
| 06:11.00 | Arrowmaster | i think im going to go with "Tired of game/game is boring" |
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| 06:11.15 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/29606/adamantite-breastplate/ |
| 06:11.19 | Adys | skill difficulty levels \o/ |
| 06:11.20 | DJJeff | how can you get tired of WoW? |
| 06:11.25 | DJJeff | start an ALT |
| 06:11.26 | DJJeff | lol |
| 06:11.28 | Adys | and prettier tooltips |
| 06:11.35 | Adys | DJJeff: uhm, get bored by playing it |
| 06:11.39 | DJJeff | the next expansion caps at 85 not 90 |
| 06:11.45 | DJJeff | lame |
| 06:11.54 | Arrowmaster | i havent played since last january |
| 06:11.56 | Adys | why lame? |
| 06:12.05 | Adys | wow is extremely boring |
| 06:12.18 | DJJeff | the flying in eastern kingdoms is needed |
| 06:12.26 | Adys | i dunno what you guys all find so awesome to seeking random cross server pugs all day |
| 06:12.28 | DJJeff | and kalmdor |
| 06:12.33 | Adys | since all you do anyway is bitch about it |
| 06:12.43 | DJJeff | I dont bitch |
| 06:12.44 | DJJeff | lol |
| 06:13.00 | DJJeff | on LOW servers like Thorium Brotherhood |
| 06:13.01 | DJJeff | it took |
| 06:13.06 | DJJeff | literaly 2 weeks |
| 06:13.10 | DJJeff | to get a 5man |
| 06:13.15 | DJJeff | now it takes 20 min |
| 06:13.27 | DJJeff | how could you not praise that |
| 06:13.45 | DJJeff | what we need is that for 25man raids |
| 06:14.11 | DJJeff | battlegrounds have always been cross server |
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| 06:14.19 | DJJeff | like warsong gulch |
| 06:14.45 | Adys | no, they havent |
| 06:14.49 | Adys | bgs used to be fun. |
| 06:15.04 | Arrowmaster | ok im going to go with the paid character transfers too expensive option and in the addition comments section bitch about no bulk realm to realm transfer, maybe somebody will actually read it and offer it to me |
| 06:15.39 | Arrowmaster | since if i could transfer all my characters i might play again |
| 06:18.34 | DJJeff | I agree with Arrowmaster |
| 06:18.41 | DJJeff | it shouldn't be per char |
| 06:18.46 | DJJeff | it should be realm to realm |
| 06:19.17 | DJJeff | they probley do that because otherwise you would move from a LOW realm to a FULL realm |
| 06:19.30 | DJJeff | cause your LOW realm is soooooooooooooooo lame |
| 06:19.34 | DJJeff | *cough* |
| 06:19.51 | Arrowmaster | i actually want to transfer from a medium to a low |
| 06:23.36 | DJJeff | I am curious why |
| 06:23.54 | Arrowmaster | because thats where the only people i wish to play with are at |
| 06:23.59 | DJJeff | OMG wow..... onebag3 addon... why have I not had this before |
| 06:24.10 | DJJeff | hrmmmmm |
| 06:24.19 | DJJeff | if thats what you want |
| 06:24.41 | DJJeff | I play on thorium brotherhood cause my "friend" is on their |
| 06:24.45 | DJJeff | he is level 80 |
| 06:24.49 | DJJeff | and wont play with me |
| 06:24.54 | DJJeff | cause hes always "busy" |
| 06:25.09 | DJJeff | he does give me gold though and help me with my gear |
| 06:25.27 | DJJeff | but we never get to actually play together |
| 06:25.34 | DJJeff | I spend most of my time SOLO |
| 06:25.41 | DJJeff | or in 5man instances |
| 06:28.52 | DJJeff | honestly.... WoW would be hell alot more fun if it was designed to get more XP and better gear in groups instead of SOLO |
| 06:29.06 | DJJeff | to encourage people to group |
| 06:29.25 | DJJeff | instead of people complaining........ your in my group get less XP and leave |
| 06:29.41 | Thunder_Child | speaking of people complaning |
| 06:30.07 | DJJeff | hahahahaaha |
| 06:30.10 | Dagmar | Clearly, math is hard |
| 06:30.32 | DJJeff | but seriously though...... have more 3 person group quests |
| 06:30.46 | DJJeff | by the time people do them they can solo it |
| 06:31.02 | DJJeff | cause there in such a hurry to get to 80 |
| 06:31.08 | DJJeff | their* |
| 06:31.13 | DJJeff | (like myself) |
| 06:31.53 | DJJeff | geez I should post all this rant on WoW forums |
| 06:32.13 | DJJeff | would be nice to get some feedback from you guys though |
| 06:33.40 | Kraps | is currently listening to Theory Of A Deadman - All Or Nothing |
| 06:41.12 | Kraps | night |
| 06:48.08 | DJJeff | I think I have figured this out...... |
| 06:48.19 | DJJeff | a game like WoW was designed to be anti social |
| 06:48.28 | DJJeff | cause thats the people that play |
| 06:48.44 | Dagmar | Regardless, questing in instances is still the fastest XP |
| 06:48.52 | Dagmar | Followed by |
| 06:48.56 | Dagmar | "just questing |
| 06:48.56 | Dagmar | " |
| 06:49.08 | Dagmar | If you don't like the game, stop playing. |
| 06:49.49 | NiLon | how is wow anything but social game? |
| 06:50.34 | NiLon | unless you mean it should be game where you need people to help you to do anything (like guild wars :P) |
| 06:50.47 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greenland&diff=prev&oldid=335061476 |
| 06:50.55 | DJJeff | like right off the bat........ you have a "general" and "combat log" |
| 06:50.58 | DJJeff | where is |
| 06:51.01 | DJJeff | "party |
| 06:51.48 | DJJeff | 1/2 time people complain they missed something in party chat cause its mixed in with other junk |
| 06:52.00 | DJJeff | not everyone has/uses WIM |
| 06:52.42 | Dagmar | That's their problem |
| 06:52.52 | Dagmar | It's not like they can't make their own chat windows to fix that |
| 06:52.53 | NiLon | it's not that hard to make own tab for party only :p |
| 06:52.55 | DJJeff | i'd take a party tab over combat log anyday |
| 06:53.08 | Dagmar | So make one and stop your whining |
| 06:53.16 | DJJeff | I know how to make one |
| 06:53.22 | DJJeff | but other people are too lazy |
| 06:53.31 | DJJeff | or a new patch comes out and kills it off |
| 06:53.37 | Dagmar | So? |
| 06:53.51 | DJJeff | why would you argue my idea |
| 06:53.58 | DJJeff | instead of encouraging it |
| 06:54.07 | Dagmar | Because it's a "solution" in search of an _actual problem_ |
| 06:54.21 | Dagmar | This is not kindergarten. |
| 06:54.30 | Dagmar | There is no need to encourage people for "just trying". |
| 06:54.49 | Dagmar | No one is anyone's special little entitled flower. |
| 06:55.24 | Dagmar | A *large* component of being able to play well is in simply being able to pay attention to multiple things at once. |
| 06:55.33 | Dagmar | If they can't manage that, then their skills are lacking. |
| 06:55.35 | DJJeff | do I need to drop this in blizzards "suggestion box" |
| 06:55.38 | Dagmar | It's their problem, not everyone else's. |
| 06:55.59 | DJJeff | they can hardly keep up with their GM tickets |
| 06:56.15 | Dagmar | It's a better idea than whining to an IRC channel. There _are_ email addresses you can send things to. |
| 06:57.01 | Dagmar | You are effectively complaining because you have no friends and can't make any. Good luck with that. |
| 06:57.38 | DJJeff | hahahahaha nice one |
| 06:57.56 | DJJeff | I am gonna send e-mail to blizzard |
| 06:57.56 | DJJeff | im just looking for feedback |
| 06:57.57 | Dagmar | Suck it up, find a group of "casuals" to guild with who don't say "fael" every other word and you'll have no problems |
| 06:58.07 | DJJeff | from other WoW players 1sy |
| 06:58.07 | DJJeff | 1st |
| 06:58.21 | DJJeff | I am looking for guilds dont get me wrong |
| 06:58.25 | DJJeff | but you need to be 80 |
| 06:58.29 | DJJeff | to raid 1st |
| 06:58.31 | Dagmar | Not for a "casual" guild |
| 06:58.41 | Dagmar | ...and raiding isn't all it's cracked up to be. |
| 06:58.47 | Dagmar | Mostly, it's trailer trash. |
| 07:00.03 | Dagmar | PUgging half a 10-man with a small guild is far simpler than putting up with the nonsense of 24 people with no jobs. |
| 07:02.49 | DJJeff | valid point |
| 07:02.51 | Dagmar | ...and frankly, you might as well pillage HToC/FoS/PoS/HoR and the occasional VoA until you can do it without getting your butt handed to you before you go into 10-mans |
| 07:03.24 | Dagmar | The forums are full of people who can't survive HoR because apparently they have the situational awareness of a small rock, and the strategical skills of a hamster |
| 07:03.58 | Dagmar | Find them. Teach them. Forge them into a blunt object for flogging 10-man pinatas |
| 07:04.44 | Dagmar | Otherwise you can *still* just slap the LFD button repeatedly until you're wearing practically 232's across the board |
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| 07:06.39 | Dagmar | It *is* harder to find a group to level with, just because of the nature of leveling. It doesn't mean it's unduly hard just because it's _dead easy_ at 80 with a jillion people flogging dailies |
| 07:08.53 | Dagmar | ...even then tho, if you check the /who pane every so often for people leveling their alts, you can find groups of people who aren't dim as posts and search for a guild at the same tiem |
| 07:09.11 | Dagmar | Hint: Three people with the same guild tag who are not 80 are a pretty decent sign |
| 07:10.30 | Dagmar | As a looooooong-time soloer/kiter I can definitely say if you go into WoW with the mindset that there should always be someone _else_ to take group leadership, you'll be soloing almost all the time. |
| 07:10.48 | Dagmar | Show a bit of leadership and a modicum of intelligence and you can usually get people to follow you for a few hours at least |
| 07:21.03 | DJJeff | I have had that |
| 07:21.10 | DJJeff | me invite people in General chat |
| 07:21.14 | DJJeff | to group quest with |
| 07:21.23 | DJJeff | but mostly they stay for 10 min |
| 07:21.26 | DJJeff | then take off |
| 07:21.34 | DJJeff | saying its dinner time or bed time |
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| 07:24.16 | DJJeff | is there a way to disable Lua errors? |
| 07:24.18 | DJJeff | I forget |
| 07:25.54 | DJJeff | nvm found it |
| 07:26.00 | DJJeff | under help in the interface options |
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| 07:29.20 | Dagmar | Hey if you got them to not suck for 10 minutes make a note of their name |
| 07:29.42 | Dagmar | it's just a friends list, not a "close friends" or "bffs" list. |
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| 07:36.55 | Vilkku | ah I see |
| 07:37.09 | Vilkku | apparently Minion is not the easiest way for me to update my mods! :P |
| 07:38.28 | Dagmar | It might still have a crush on Healbot |
| 07:38.50 | Vilkku | oh wait, that must be an old word |
| 07:39.49 | Vilkku | there we go! it was minion :D |
| 07:43.10 | Torhal | DJJeff: Lua errors let you know something is wrong. Like "Dude, this shit is fucking broken. Either update and/or replace it." |
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| 07:46.47 | Shirik | The procedure entry point ?willGrow@QHashData@@QAE_NXZ could not be located in the dynamic link library QtCore4.dll |
| 07:46.53 | Shirik | ^ wtfhax? go! |
| 07:48.06 | Dagmar | http://www.qtforum.org/article/24337/error-running-qt-application.html |
| 07:48.32 | Dagmar | Probably just an exciting library mismatch |
| 07:49.10 | Dagmar | Seek out the old libraries and smite them. |
| 07:51.40 | Shirik | what the fuck |
| 07:51.49 | Shirik | here's what dependency walker is showing where my qtcore4.dll is |
| 07:51.56 | Shirik | c:\program files (x86)\amd\codeanalyst\bin\QTCORE4.DLL |
| 07:52.00 | Shirik | how did it even FIND that |
| 07:52.58 | Shirik | ah hhaahha |
| 07:53.03 | Shirik | because it's loaded in Visual Studio |
| 07:53.07 | Shirik | that is epic fail |
| 07:55.23 | Dagmar | You say "Qt" and "Visual Studio" in the same five minute period and didn't expect that would be a problem? |
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| 08:10.15 | Shirik | Dagmar :P |
| 08:10.22 | Shirik | cmon Qt's support in Visual Studio isn't bad |
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| 08:18.59 | Shirik | night |
| 08:23.18 | Dagmar | I'm not blaming VS for being anything more than VS. |
| 08:23.31 | Dagmar | Qt, on the other hand, is just _exuberantly_ fragile on every platform |
| 08:23.49 | Dagmar | It's little feelings get hurt every time it senses another version of itself around. |
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| 08:26.22 | Fisker | my rage sense is tingling |
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| 09:29.31 | smcn | wow |
| 09:29.39 | smcn | a fucking pencil eraser can fix a scratch on an lcd screen |
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| 09:30.40 | ZorbaTHut | whoa, I just got into an instance as pure DPS in under a minute |
| 09:30.45 | ZorbaTHut | aaaaand the tank isn't pushing "ready" |
| 09:31.46 | smcn | lol |
| 09:34.58 | Fisker | you wouldn't ZorbaTHut |
| 09:36.49 | DJJeff | Torhal: the only Lua error I was getting was for FuBar_QuestsFu and I know its outdated but still works for 3.3 |
| 09:37.19 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmm I should find out who the author is |
| 09:37.27 | DJJeff | and let them know |
| 09:39.00 | DJJeff | Kemayo is the author |
| 09:39.07 | DJJeff | and they are in this channel too :) |
| 09:39.20 | DJJeff | offers Kemayo an ice cold can of I Coke I |
| 09:42.19 | Torhal | DJJeff: This is an alpha version (from the 19th): http://www.wowace.com/addons/fu-bar_quests-fu/files/811-r422/ |
| 09:42.34 | Torhal | It's actually had 3.3.0 work done to it. |
| 09:43.42 | Torhal | Though, I don't know why he's updating that when he has http://www.wowace.com/addons/better-quest/files/194-r174/ |
| 09:44.17 | DJJeff | hrmmmm |
| 09:44.57 | DJJeff | setting my Curse Client into Alpha mode shows an update |
| 09:45.00 | DJJeff | I will try that |
| 09:45.01 | DJJeff | thanks |
| 09:53.27 | DJJeff | Alpha is newer then release and may contain bugs? (not stable) |
| 09:53.44 | DJJeff | am I reading this right? |
| 09:56.33 | industrial | The symfony site tells me I can use $sf_flash->get() in my templates but there's no flash object :S |
| 09:59.42 | Arrowmaster | smcn: that sounds like a scuff and not a scratch |
| 10:00.10 | industrial | woops, wrong window |
| 10:00.11 | industrial | :p |
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| 10:04.20 | wakatake | hi |
| 10:04.27 | industrial | Hello. |
| 10:04.30 | wakatake | is there a way to check if the target i am on is a raid boss ? |
| 10:04.45 | wakatake | has the skull symbol |
| 10:05.07 | Arrowmaster | !api classification |
| 10:05.07 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'classification': UnitClassification, UNIT_CLASSIFICATION_CHANGED |
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| 10:05.27 | Arrowmaster | !api unitclassification |
| 10:05.28 | lua_bot | UnitClassification: Returns a unit's classification (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitClassification) |
| 10:05.34 | wakatake | okie thx |
| 10:06.41 | wakatake | world boss includes raid bosses too right? |
| 10:06.51 | wakatake | that is non outdoor raid |
| 10:06.52 | Fisker | yes |
| 10:07.08 | Fisker | though in icecrown some are mystically tagged elites instead of worldbosses |
| 10:07.52 | Fisker | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=36855 |
| 10:07.55 | Fisker | for example her |
| 10:08.17 | wakatake | wow that sucks |
| 10:08.23 | wakatake | is blizzard gonna fix that soon? |
| 10:08.32 | Fisker | dunno |
| 10:08.50 | wakatake | anyone reported it to blizzard yet?? |
| 10:09.27 | Fisker | i have |
| 10:10.58 | wakatake | ok cool |
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| 10:15.57 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/12/30/funny-pictures-get-me/ |
| 10:16.19 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 10:20.31 | nightcracker | hi all |
| 10:21.27 | Fisker | you wouldn't |
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| 10:30.23 | Torhal | DJJeff: The software cycle usually consists of Alpha (current development version), Beta (ready for testing), and Gamma/Release. |
| 10:30.39 | Torhal | DJJeff: So yes, the alpha may or may not work in a stable manner. |
| 10:32.48 | Fisker | gamma is a term terrorists use! |
| 10:33.06 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmmmmmmm is there a update/replacement for Broker2FuBar? |
| 10:33.17 | DJJeff | Arrowmaster you are an author for that addon |
| 10:33.39 | Arrowmaster | why would there need to be an update? it should be working fine |
| 10:34.33 | DJJeff | I just got a Lua error from showing the options dialog |
| 10:34.34 | DJJeff | hrmm |
| 10:34.34 | DJJeff | http://pastebin.ca/1732900 |
| 10:34.46 | EthanCentaurai | just dump FuBar and get Bazooka instead |
| 10:34.52 | Torhal | I honestly don't understand why people are clinging so tenaciously to FuBar. It's held together with bubblegum and paperclips. |
| 10:34.53 | EthanCentaurai | or Fortress |
| 10:35.17 | Torhal | Bazooka, if you want what's closest in look-and-feel to FuBar. |
| 10:35.30 | Torhal | Or hell, use multiple displays. Some people do. |
| 10:35.39 | Arrowmaster | that error is completely useless |
| 10:35.40 | DJJeff | most of my addons are designed for fubar |
| 10:35.52 | Torhal | And I gave you a link yesterday to a bunch of LDB replacements. |
| 10:37.37 | industrial | still really doesn't like that people write addons _for_ another addon that only displays plugins rather then an addon PLUS a plugin that hooks the addon up to the display addon. |
| 10:38.16 | industrial | since I dont use the display addon I'll never use one of the plugins |
| 10:41.35 | Dagmar | You can of course install Fubar2Broker while you hunt down replacements |
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| 10:46.45 | Torhal | industrial: You just described a proprietary plugin system - AKA FuBar or TitanPanel (before Titan started supporting LDB). |
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| 10:53.10 | industrial | Torhal: Let me put it like this |
| 10:53.41 | Arrowmaster | titan still doesnt fully 'support' LDB |
| 10:54.06 | industrial | fubar/panelX is a way to show (and/or configure/wth you want) the data. The data along with the business code that makes it happen could live by itself fine in an addon with added support for a certain way of displaying it |
| 10:54.07 | Arrowmaster | its just got a hack exactly like Broker2FuBar but its builtin, and people still make titan exclusive plugins |
| 10:55.01 | industrial | Torhal: however because it is so wasy to create frontends (apparently) using the plugin then thats all that happens frontend wise for the addon, so you need the plugin/LDB thing and then a display addon to be able to use the addon |
| 10:55.05 | industrial | and that sucks, imo |
| 10:55.10 | industrial | easy* |
| 10:56.21 | Torhal | Whereas most FuBar plugins were actually FuBar-aware, and could stand on their own by infesting the minimap. :D |
| 11:03.27 | wakatake | so why cant i cast any spell while in Metamorphosis? |
| 11:03.36 | wakatake | ./cast Curse of Agony doesnt work |
| 11:08.02 | industrial | Torhal: thats only because I was bumping my head into that problem back then and I nagged ckknight a _lot_ to make it work like that and he did. |
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| 11:09.31 | Torhal | industrial: Well, the thing is, it can still be done that way - it's more modular, though. LibDBIcon-1.0 does the minimap-button portion. |
| 11:09.41 | Torhal | I use it with all of my LDB AddOns, but unfortunately not everyone does. |
| 11:10.34 | Torhal | Anywho - off to bed like I told myself I was doing an hour ago. |
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| 11:20.17 | DJJeff | too bad [Handful of Snowflakes] is soooooooo rare |
| 11:20.20 | DJJeff | *sigh* |
| 11:20.27 | DJJeff | you cant find them in the AH |
| 11:22.22 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12024934446&postId=120241022263&sid=1#1 <-a chill pill he says? |
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| 13:05.12 | Polarina | Haha! http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/10/23/linux-creator-linus-torvalds-gives-windows-7-a-thumbs-up |
| 13:09.08 | Polarina | Why does the name Eric S. Raymond sound familiar? |
| 13:09.31 | Polarina | Oh, a developer for The Battle for Wesnoth. |
| 13:18.30 | ZorbaTHut | ESR is the sane one |
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| 13:31.02 | haste | Polarina: you need to start reading slashdot |
| 13:31.57 | amro | haste: you mean slashdigg |
| 13:32.06 | amro | the stories they post these days... |
| 13:32.18 | Polarina | haste: I do read slashdot. |
| 13:33.20 | haste | Polarina: you didn't back in october apparantly! |
| 13:33.33 | haste | amro: yeh, still some nice stuff being posted tho' :P |
| 13:33.40 | Fisker | http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA00826.jpg <-MAGNIFY AND ENHANCE! |
| 13:34.24 | amro | types quickly |
| 13:34.27 | amro | there, done. |
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| 13:54.30 | Bruners | haste: what was on slashdot in october? |
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| 13:58.16 | Kraps | its snowing |
| 14:03.25 | haste | Bruners: the link Polarina posted :P |
| 14:04.50 | Polarina | haste: Do you have a slashdot link? |
| 14:08.30 | haste | nope |
| 14:10.22 | ckknight | the floor is lava! |
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| 14:14.55 | Gnarfoz | @project sexygroup |
| 14:14.56 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sexygroup/. SexyGroup. Game: WoW. Shadowed (Manager/Author), Antiarc (Maintainer). Updated: 5 hours ago |
| 14:15.11 | Fisker | So what is your new years resolution ckknight? |
| 14:15.16 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed, Antiarc: what do I need to do to "finish rating my group"? |
| 14:15.23 | ckknight | I don't do new years resolutions, Fisker |
| 14:15.29 | Fisker | oh |
| 14:15.35 | Fisker | well mine is 1920x1200 |
| 14:15.41 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:15.41 | Gnarfoz | I moved two people's sliders and it keeps saying I didn't finish |
| 14:15.47 | Fisker | yeah |
| 14:15.48 | Gnarfoz | (in before Kanye meme) |
| 14:15.52 | Fisker | you have to make a comment apparently |
| 14:15.53 | Fisker | i think |
| 14:16.28 | Gnarfoz | hm. |
| 14:17.10 | Gnarfoz | @project dungeonspeedrunner |
| 14:17.11 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dungeonspeedrunner/. DungeonSpeedRunner. Game: WoW. OrionShock (Manager/Author). Updated: 3 hours ago |
| 14:18.40 | Kraps | Gnarfoz: whats the point of rating a pug? |
| 14:19.13 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sexygroup/. SexyGroup. Game: WoW. Shadowed (Manager/Author), Antiarc (Maintainer). Updated: 5 hours ago |
| 14:19.16 | Gnarfoz | ;-) |
| 14:19.26 | Kraps | yeah that |
| 14:20.04 | Fisker | yeah Kraps |
| 14:20.05 | DJJeff | damn rolling restarts |
| 14:20.09 | DJJeff | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 14:20.19 | Fisker | I pretty much just want to use it for reporting serious ninjas, etc. |
| 14:20.20 | Kraps | what Fisker |
| 14:20.27 | Kraps | oh |
| 14:20.54 | Gnarfoz | !api UnReg |
| 14:20.54 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'UnReg': Frame:UnregisterAllEvents, Frame:UnregisterEvent |
| 14:20.59 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 14:21.11 | Fisker | if only we could have "I don't want to group with this guy"-function |
| 14:21.13 | Bruners | Fisker: serious ninjas? |
| 14:21.32 | Fisker | idk Bruners |
| 14:21.35 | DJJeff | Schematic: Snowmaster 9000 is a popular item? |
| 14:21.45 | DJJeff | goes for 100g in AH |
| 14:37.23 | Kraps | do you need to get the quests from jaina/sylvanis every time you do the ic dungeons? |
| 14:40.31 | zenzelezz | no |
| 14:40.55 | Fisker | i wish |
| 14:41.03 | Fisker | 8 emblems of frost every day |
| 14:42.33 | Kraps | 2 wipes on the first PoS boss /sigh |
| 14:43.41 | zenzelezz | make sure they've actually done him before |
| 14:43.49 | zenzelezz | two people in my group neglected to mention that |
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| 14:54.57 | Kraps | "Chilling Wave - Inflicts 2,000 Frost damage to enemies 65 yards in front of the caster." yet i got hit for 8964, with 3896 overkill |
| 14:55.07 | Kraps | so whats going on |
| 14:58.15 | zenzelezz | did you have any Permafrost debuffs on you? |
| 14:59.34 | kd3 | ^ |
| 15:01.50 | Kraps | ah right |
| 15:05.20 | Kraps | but im the tank, i can only get rid of the debuff at certain times |
| 15:05.53 | zenzelezz | how much hitpoints do you have? |
| 15:07.08 | durhan | over 9000! |
| 15:08.13 | Kraps | 37k |
| 15:09.17 | zenzelezz | well, I don't know about the explanation, but your healer should keep you above 13k then |
| 15:09.32 | zenzelezz | don't recall him hurting that much |
| 15:10.24 | DJJeff | is there an addon for Questhelper to show you were the books are for the Achievement "Well Read" |
| 15:11.31 | DJJeff | oh nvm |
| 15:11.31 | DJJeff | I found it |
| 15:11.31 | DJJeff | lol |
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| 15:14.31 | alestane | Good morning, Peppy. Kitty any better yet? |
| 15:14.55 | Lopeppeppy | The heating pack puts her into a coma. I love that thing. |
| 15:15.24 | zenzelezz | peppy: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/12/30/funny-pictures-get-me/ |
| 15:15.26 | alestane | That may help her sleep off the medication aftereffects, anyway. |
| 15:15.53 | Lopeppeppy | Very nice, zenzelezz. *grin* |
| 15:16.13 | Lopeppeppy | She tipped over her water dish last night, that was a fun mess to clean up. I love my cat... |
| 15:16.36 | zenzelezz | how can you tip over a water dish? Is it a particularly tall one? |
| 15:17.04 | Lopeppeppy | Ever seen a kitty in a cone of shame, zenzelezz? I'm sure she caught the edge of the dish with the cone. |
| 15:17.25 | zenzelezz | ah |
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| 15:23.04 | logistic | Hi, this is the first addon I have written. I'm really not sure about the code quality and I'm looking for any advice I can get. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22049842149&sid=1 |
| 15:23.07 | logistic | http://github.com/Logistic/ScoreKeeper/ |
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| 15:29.03 | alestane | While one table isn't too critical an issue, the system provides a table to all your add-on files when it runs them, which might be "tighter" than creating your own and passing it around in a global (unless having your add-on environment accessible to other add-ons is a goal). |
| 15:31.21 | logistic | Well, I want at least some things accessible |
| 15:31.47 | Kraps | doh, i'm still wearing t7 |
| 15:32.36 | logistic | But I can always put those in the global |
| 15:34.45 | logistic | I don't think I'm going to worry about it for now |
| 15:35.06 | Lopeppeppy | Why does it have to snow? I was going to go do errands now that Rosie isn't crazytoons today. Darn it. |
| 15:35.24 | ZorbaTHut | honestly, don't worry about it too much. if it's bad design, you'll figure it out when you poke it and it crumbles |
| 15:35.39 | zenzelezz | you can't do errands in the snow? |
| 15:35.44 | Lopeppeppy | 3 inches total expected. *sigh* |
| 15:36.00 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 15:36.05 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, it takes longer in the snow, and leaving the cat things for longer was not in the plan. |
| 15:37.06 | Kraps | regemming takes to long |
| 15:37.09 | Kraps | too |
| 15:37.58 | logistic | ZorbaTHut: I was storing items using simple oop so I would do things like: "item = ItemObject:new();print(item:getName())" Then I decided strings would be more memory-efficient because I have so many duplicate items so now all my calls look like: ItemObject.getName(item). : ( |
| 15:38.26 | ZorbaTHut | were you having memory issues? |
| 15:38.26 | logistic | Yes |
| 15:38.36 | logistic | 20MB in two days of data collection is too much |
| 15:38.44 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, that's a bit much |
| 15:38.58 | logistic | still have to do testing to see if it has reduced |
| 15:40.49 | Lopeppeppy | also, my town doesn't plow when there's no school, which there may not be today. Hence extra funtimes on the roads. I'm just gonna go now, sucks to disturb Rosie when she's calm, but there's no help for that. |
| 15:44.25 | logistic | what is rosie? |
| 15:44.41 | logistic | who* |
| 15:44.47 | logistic | Rosie* |
| 15:56.56 | Fisker | plows what Lopeppeppy ? |
| 15:59.52 | logistic | And I just found it if they are in a group with you and you hover someone their tooltip function gets called twice. good job Blizzard |
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| 16:00.14 | logistic | OnTooltipSetUnit |
| 16:00.44 | logistic | hmm no that's not it, nvm |
| 16:01.30 | logistic | oh it's my fault, I'm an idiot |
| 16:02.17 | logistic | sorry Blizzard |
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| 16:18.08 | kd3 | hahahaha... awesome (fark): http://md.tgpsitecentral.com/pod/2009-12-30.jpg?t=1262224236 |
| 16:18.30 | Kraps | Fisker: snow |
| 16:18.37 | kd3 | read the caption |
| 16:20.45 | Fisker | you guys plow snow? |
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| 16:28.58 | alestane | logistic: Rosie is her cat who had surgery the other day. |
| 16:31.12 | logistic | oh, that makes sense |
| 16:32.48 | Fisker | phew |
| 16:32.54 | Fisker | halfway done on primordial saronites |
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| 16:34.54 | zenzelezz | then you have to start on Primordial Titanium, which is three times as expensive |
| 16:35.44 | Lopeppeppy | mischief managed, whee. One inch already, and may I say that new england rotaries are deathly with an inch or more of slush? |
| 16:37.05 | Sesshu | uhm how to get letters like â by using lua platterns? |
| 16:37.24 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 16:37.33 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:38.16 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Shirik. |
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| 16:41.02 | Sesshu | lua> ("abcâ"):match("(%a+)") |
| 16:41.02 | lua_bot | Sesshu: abc |
| 16:41.09 | Sesshu | how to get the whole string? |
| 16:43.48 | logistic | many ways |
| 16:43.56 | logistic | an infinite number actually |
| 16:44.05 | logistic | better tell us what you are trying to do |
| 16:44.18 | logistic | http://www.wowwiki.com/Pattern_matching |
| 16:45.09 | logistic | I thought you did get the whole string |
| 16:45.20 | logistic | it returned "abc" when you put in abc? |
| 16:45.37 | Sesshu | yep |
| 16:45.57 | Sesshu | but the â is important as well |
| 16:46.03 | logistic | the space? |
| 16:46.06 | logistic | there is no space |
| 16:46.24 | logistic | and if you wanted a space why are you looking for %a which matches all letters? |
| 16:46.31 | Sesshu | i think you can't see the letter i wrote |
| 16:46.38 | logistic | oh |
| 16:46.45 | logistic | it's probably you're fault |
| 16:46.56 | logistic | paste it here: http://pastebin.com/ |
| 16:47.12 | logistic | although |
| 16:47.29 | logistic | You probably just want ("abc"):match("(%S+)") |
| 16:48.29 | Sesshu | lua> ("abcâ"):match("(%S+)") |
| 16:48.29 | lua_bot | Sesshu: abcâ |
| 16:48.33 | Sesshu | kay |
| 16:48.34 | Sesshu | works |
| 16:48.36 | Sesshu | thanks |
| 16:49.20 | logistic | That matches all non-whitespace characters |
| 16:49.30 | logistic | If you want to match all characters use . |
| 16:49.48 | Sesshu | yea |
| 16:55.17 | Shirik | logistic, no it's definitely your fault |
| 16:55.22 | Shirik | get a better client |
| 16:55.46 | logistic | Using xchat aqua |
| 16:55.51 | Shirik | I rest my case |
| 16:56.00 | logistic | what do you suggest? |
| 16:56.13 | Shirik | xchat is severely overrated |
| 16:56.20 | logistic | you're using mirc |
| 16:56.31 | logistic | that's windows only |
| 16:56.31 | Shirik | I'm using nbs-irc, and as much crap as mirc gets, at least it works |
| 16:57.14 | logistic | well, it's windows only |
| 16:57.42 | Shirik | I'm not trying to tell you what to switch to. I'm trying to tell you don't be so quick to blame others. |
| 16:58.16 | logistic | :P I was kidding |
| 17:00.54 | logistic | Need sleep, haven't slept for 22 hours |
| 17:03.13 | Lopeppeppy | Go to bed then! |
| 17:03.32 | logistic | k |
| 17:03.46 | Lopeppeppy | didn't know she had super powers. Wow. |
| 17:05.20 | Ginji | Xchat displayed it fine here btw |
| 17:05.36 | Ginji | It's probably pebcak |
| 17:19.37 | Fisker | just like your mom |
| 17:19.55 | Fisker | (totally needed 15 minutes for it) |
| 17:20.49 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Fisker |
| 17:20.49 | purl | slaps Fisker around with a large trout |
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| 17:37.19 | Fisker | you wouldn't Thunder_Child |
| 17:38.38 | p3lim | happy newyear, im off |
| 17:38.57 | Thunder_Child | i would Fisker though |
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| 17:49.43 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: its really nice outside :) |
| 17:50.32 | Lopeppeppy | Brat. Come shovel out my car at about 7pm, would ya? This one handed nonsense makes shoveling a right royal beeeotch. |
| 17:51.27 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: i'm guessing you're farther north than me? |
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| 17:52.41 | Lopeppeppy | In the wilds way up I-87. |
| 17:53.56 | Kraps | Bings with Google Maps |
| 17:54.12 | Fisker | you wouldn't not |
| 17:54.50 | Kraps | i google with yahoo to |
| 17:54.58 | Kraps | too* |
| 17:56.18 | Kraps | we have a thin coating thats already melting |
| 17:56.51 | Lopeppeppy | We'll be getting 3 inches or so today, and another inch or so each day for the next 3 days. Just constant drizzly snowings. |
| 18:01.58 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-fTK4ooUro#t=1m23s <- i lol'd |
| 18:02.51 | Kraps | hah |
| 18:03.12 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5437861/blizzard-helps-cops-track-down-wow-fan-suspected-drug-dealer |
| 18:03.29 | kd3 | rofl |
| 18:08.09 | Shirik | Kraps: win |
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| 18:11.35 | Shirik | return ++iter == m_words.end(); |
| 18:11.39 | Shirik | too complex for a single line or OK? |
| 18:19.25 | Fisker | you wouldn't kill a fisker Shirik |
| 18:19.42 | Lopeppeppy | He has a hunting license for it. |
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| 18:28.26 | Fisker | o shi- |
| 18:30.20 | Lopeppeppy | *click* |
| 18:30.25 | Lopeppeppy | That barrel wasn't loaded, pity. |
| 18:35.06 | Kraps | heh |
| 18:36.19 | alestane | Shirik: That's the sort of thing I expect to see in C~ |
| 18:36.30 | Shirik | C~? |
| 18:36.35 | Shirik | Is that like ++C++? |
| 18:36.46 | alestane | C/C++/C#...anything in that family. |
| 18:36.53 | Shirik | ah |
| 18:37.27 | amro | Shirik: that's actually pretty awesome |
| 18:37.36 | alestane | Guy came to jump my car and the ignition lead fell out of the crimp connector in his hand. Car runs, but only starts if someone holds that in place while the ignition is turned. |
| 18:37.46 | alestane | To the hardware store! |
| 18:37.47 | Shirik | awesome good or awesome bad? |
| 18:37.55 | amro | awesome good |
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| 18:39.22 | Fisker | you wouldn't let me brrr in the cold |
| 18:39.22 | Kraps | is currently listening to Theory Of A Deadman - Hate My Life |
| 18:39.30 | Shirik | yes I would Fisker |
| 18:39.33 | Kraps | fiskers theme song |
| 18:40.26 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, that's just not right. |
| 18:45.15 | alestane | Peppy: I agree. This is what comes of my using a connector in defiance of its being a bit too small. |
| 18:45.31 | alestane | So I shall have to fix it and make sure it stops happening. |
| 18:46.23 | Lopeppeppy | Get the right one this time, dear. |
| 18:50.31 | alestane | I think the problem was that it was what I had. But the car is running, so when the brownies are done I shall take it down to the parts store. |
| 18:52.09 | Lopeppeppy | You could bring me brownies instead. I've been a good girl. |
| 18:52.59 | alestane | That's quite a hike to deliver brownies. |
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| 18:53.56 | alestane | I'd love to, but what if I had to stop for gas or something? I'd have to turn the car off. |
| 18:54.02 | alestane | And then I'd be stuck. |
| 18:54.52 | alestane | Speaking of which, they're done, so away I go. |
| 18:54.52 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. Okay. Don't turn it off when you get to the store? |
| 18:55.18 | alestane | That's my plan. At least until I have a part and am ready to replace it. |
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| 19:50.57 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/20000/alexanders-test-periodic-aura/ |
| 19:51.16 | kd3 | ooh. a sky writer |
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| 20:29.00 | zenzelezz | tip: if you want to glue a puzzle to a sheet of paper, don't do it a piece at a time |
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| 20:29.49 | Dagmar | I thought most people just sprayed the entire completed thing with enamel |
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| 20:30.06 | zenzelezz | points at his nick |
| 20:30.38 | zenzelezz | of course I realised this too late |
| 20:30.46 | Lopeppeppy | silly penguin |
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| 20:31.04 | Dagmar | Well, if you spray the backside, no one will ever know. ;) |
| 20:31.38 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: let's just say that I had three columns out of 25 glued on when I started realising it was a bad idea |
| 20:31.51 | Dagmar | Oof |
| 20:32.10 | zenzelezz | may just have to buy another copy |
| 20:32.34 | Dagmar | Well, hopefully not as long as you didn't get any glue on the front |
| 20:33.17 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure how much work I'd have to do to scrape the back of the pieces flat if I tore them off the paper now |
| 20:35.25 | zenzelezz | quick assessment says it may be salvagable |
| 20:37.55 | Lopeppeppy | Wooot! |
| 20:45.06 | Shirik | ooh, time for hot chats |
| 20:45.06 | Shirik | private room |
| 20:45.06 | Iriel | purl's still here |
| 20:45.06 | Shirik | heh, hot chat log |
| 20:45.06 | Shirik | well if you're not busy, wanna look at something and confirm my sanity? |
| 20:45.35 | Iriel | sure |
| 20:46.32 | Shirik | Definition of some class: http://wowi.pastey.net/130849 |
| 20:47.15 | Shirik | Definition of another class: http://wowi.pastey.net/130850 |
| 20:47.23 | Shirik | (ignore the implementation deatils they're not important) |
| 20:47.57 | Shirik | Problem code: http://wowi.pastey.net/130851 |
| 20:48.06 | Shirik | The highlighted line produces error C2664: 'WordChoiceGene::WordChoiceGene(const WordChoiceGene &)' : cannot convert parameter 1 from 'MockWordSet' to 'const WordChoiceGene &' |
| 20:48.28 | Shirik | see anything I'm stupidly missing that is stopping it from using the other constructor? |
| 20:49.06 | Iriel | I think you have a bug in MockWordSet, if it's empty, by the way |
| 20:49.17 | Iriel | Line 52 shouldn't begin with else |
| 20:49.55 | Shirik | actually that's intended |
| 20:49.58 | Shirik | I know it looks strange |
| 20:50.07 | Shirik | I probably should comment it better, but they're just unit tests |
| 20:51.03 | Shirik | wait, you're right |
| 20:51.10 | Shirik | there's something missing |
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| 20:51.16 | Shirik | but it's not that the else is supposed tobe gone :) |
| 20:51.23 | Shirik | thanks |
| 20:51.43 | Iriel | Does the first file (WordChoiceGene.h) have access to the right definition of WordSet? |
| 20:52.43 | Iriel | Or is it assuming you have a CollabRC::Bot::AI::WordSet somewhere else? |
| 20:52.55 | Iriel | (i.e. not the same namespace as the one MockWordSet implements) |
| 20:53.05 | Shirik | well there's only one WordSet and, while I didn't have the include, I guess it was picking it up from one of the other include files. But I added it in just to be safe; same error |
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| 20:55.10 | Shirik | Well at least it's not obvious to you Iriel, that's really all I was asking |
| 20:55.10 | Shirik | I thought maybe I was missing something stupid like a semicolon where it shouldn't have been or something |
| 20:55.10 | Iriel | It''s not, but it's been a while since I did heavyweight C++ |
| 20:55.11 | amro | dear_light: does it have focus? |
| 20:55.11 | dear_light | yes |
| 20:55.11 | Polarina | does Haskell. |
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| 20:55.42 | Iriel | Shirik: Hang on |
| 20:55.52 | Iriel | Shirik: is the problem that your test class is ALSO called WordChoiceGene |
| 20:55.55 | Shirik | This is interesting |
| 20:55.55 | Shirik | error C2664: 'WordChoiceGene::WordChoiceGene(const WordChoiceGene &)' : cannot convert parameter 1 from 'MockWordSet' to 'const WordChoiceGene &' |
| 20:55.55 | Shirik | 1> Reason: cannot convert from 'MockWordSet' to 'const WordChoiceGene' |
| 20:55.55 | Shirik | 1> No user-defined-conversion operator available that can perform this conversion, or the operator cannot be called |
| 20:56.00 | Shirik | OH crap |
| 20:56.01 | Iriel | Shirik: you're instantiating one of THOSE, not one of the one you're trying to test |
| 20:56.06 | Shirik | it's supposed to be called TestWordChoiceGene... |
| 20:56.09 | Shirik | thanks... |
| 20:56.21 | Shirik | I told you it was something stupid! |
| 20:56.22 | Iriel | Yay, i'm not useless afterall 8-) |
| 20:57.23 | Shirik | and it was legally called that because they were in different namespaces -_- |
| 20:57.57 | dear_light | ah wellthen i guess since onkeydown/up doesnt work on focused editboxes, is there a way to simulate the focus to an editbox but still get the keystrokes without remaking essentially the editbox widget |
| 20:58.19 | Iriel | dear_light: Stick an invisible frame on top ? |
| 20:58.35 | dear_light | cursor goes invis then sadly |
| 21:00.59 | Iriel | What are you trying to do? |
| 21:02.56 | dear_light | check if ctrl is down while a key is pressed |
| 21:03.08 | dear_light | while editting an editbox* |
| 21:04.29 | Iriel | And you can't do this with the normal OnKeyPressed event handler? |
| 21:05.42 | dear_light | editbox doesnt fire onkeydown/up if focused... didnt see pressed sec |
| 21:06.33 | Iriel | Hm, Id ont think that's the right handler name actually |
| 21:06.57 | Iriel | There are a bunch of On<Something>Pressed |
| 21:07.25 | dear_light | there are for space,tab,and enter |
| 21:07.29 | dear_light | oh and escape |
| 21:07.31 | Iriel | But the closest generic one would be something like OnTextChanged |
| 21:08.07 | dear_light | yea but that only fires if the text actually changes and doesnt say where |
| 21:08.19 | Iriel | You could track before and after |
| 21:08.40 | Iriel | Kindof a pain though, admittedly |
| 21:08.58 | dear_light | true enough, think imma just simulate the cursor blinker and go with the invis frame idea |
| 21:10.09 | zenzelezz | im in ur editbox stealing ur control staters |
| 21:11.05 | dear_light | oh noes |
| 21:11.20 | Lopeppeppy | nom nom nom |
| 21:11.45 | zenzelezz | I know it's cheesy, but I still chuck at the Chuck Norris/ctrl key joke |
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| 21:17.31 | alestane | The car is happy again, the brownies less so. |
| 21:17.55 | Lopeppeppy | Why are the brownies sad? |
| 21:17.59 | Lopeppeppy | I will cheer them up by eating them. |
| 21:18.14 | Dagmar | Heheh |
| 21:18.15 | zenzelezz | I thought that was the boyfriend's job |
| 21:18.24 | alestane | Well, I left them in the oven after I turned it off to finish them off while I went to take care of the car. |
| 21:18.34 | alestane | And they're quite solid now. |
| 21:18.41 | Fisker | my cat is killing you zenzelezz |
| 21:18.44 | alestane | Not burnt, exactly, but impermeable. |
| 21:18.57 | zenzelezz | Fisker: apparently not very effectively |
| 21:19.29 | alestane | I think they're edible, but I'm not exactly sure they're suitable for company. |
| 21:19.43 | Lopeppeppy | alestane! You lolo penguin! |
| 21:19.58 | Iriel | alestane: soak them in booze and pretend they're a traditional english dessert? |
| 21:19.59 | alestane | "lolo penguin"? |
| 21:20.00 | Lopeppeppy | If you have bread to spare, cut them and then put them in a ziplock with some bread to soften up. |
| 21:20.05 | Dagmar | Perhaps soften them with some maple syrup |
| 21:20.23 | Dagmar | ;) |
| 21:20.28 | Lopeppeppy | Side them with ice cream as a dessert. But yeah, leaving them in the oven was a big mistake. |
| 21:21.01 | alestane | I wasn't sure they were 100% done...they only baked 18 minutes, but it was a sparse batch, thin in the pan. |
| 21:21.26 | alestane | I figured some time to finish up wouldn't hurt them...somewhat mistaken on my part. |
| 21:21.44 | Dagmar | Now you have brownie brittle |
| 21:21.52 | alestane | On the plus side, not only is the car starting, but I seem to have fixed the car stereo in the process. |
| 21:21.53 | zenzelezz | of there's one thing I have learned about cooking/baking, it's that timeframes are reference values only |
| 21:21.55 | zenzelezz | *if |
| 21:25.21 | alestane | I think I shall bake another batch of brownies in the other pan while I still have time. They will come out better, it's a smaller pan. |
| 21:26.40 | Lopeppeppy | Better brownies be best to bribe the beautiful bride! |
| 21:28.13 | alestane | Bride? What? Do you know something I don't? |
| 21:28.52 | zenzelezz | only then did alestane realise why the girlfriend had been acting peculiar all week |
| 21:32.07 | Lopeppeppy | Well, if you want to disown the lady, **I** am not gonna be around when you tell her! |
| 21:34.34 | alestane | Ah. The brownies aren't really for her, we're taking them to a freind's NY party. |
| 21:34.51 | alestane | And she's just texted me that he's made some, but could we bring salad stuff? |
| 21:35.05 | Lopeppeppy | You are saved. |
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| 21:40.18 | Adys | friend asking me if theres any free alternative to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuarkXPress ? |
| 21:40.45 | zenzelezz | is that the desktop publishing thing? |
| 21:41.06 | Adys | yeah seems to be |
| 21:41.09 | Iriel | WOuldn't the links at the bottom for open source and freeware alternatives be a start? |
| 21:41.39 | zenzelezz | whoa there Iriel, let's not get carried away with radical ideas |
| 21:42.03 | Iriel | zenzelezz: c'mon - he pasted the link! |
| 21:42.26 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 21:42.46 | Iriel | Personally I have access to InDesign should I need such things, so I have no idea what's out there |
| 21:43.31 | alestane | Yeah, I use InDesign. Hardly free though. |
| 21:43.42 | Iriel | No indeed |
| 21:44.08 | Iriel | Had to get someone a CS3 license at work, ouch |
| 21:44.24 | alestane | Well, they taste fine, but they're utterly desiccated and brittle. They might make serviceable biscotti. |
| 21:45.31 | Iriel | They're the un-bread |
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| 21:46.01 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn|afk -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Happy New Year! |
| 21:46.50 | zenzelezz | huggles Cairenn|afk |
| 21:46.52 | zenzelezz | first! |
| 21:47.00 | Cairenn|afk | huggles zenzelezz :) |
| 21:47.21 | alestane | They've become a sort of "kiln-dried brownie". |
| 21:47.54 | zenzelezz | they evolved! |
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| 22:02.02 | Adys | happy new year gmt+2 |
| 22:02.20 | Adys | Iriel: yeah noticed just a second after i pasted |
| 22:03.41 | Adys | scribus seems decent but shes whining about the lack of footnote support |
| 22:03.42 | Adys | bah |
| 22:06.42 | Lopeppeppy | Freeware will never be exactly the original, sadly, you have to accept some limits |
| 22:07.19 | Iriel | Are footnotes worth $800 to her? if so -- she should just buy Quark |
| 22:07.43 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty much. |
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| 22:14.07 | zenzelezz | "As far as I can tell, though, AltaVista results are slightly rehashed variants of what Yahoo gives you for the same queries. Using it is like visiting an old friend whos been lobotomized." |
| 22:18.45 | haste | people still use altavista? |
| 22:19.48 | Adys | Iriel: Quark doesnt have footnotes either :P |
| 22:19.51 | DJJeff | Thorim in Temple of Storms looks bored |
| 22:19.53 | DJJeff | lmfao |
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| 22:20.08 | DJJeff | I just dinged to 77 |
| 22:20.10 | DJJeff | yaaaaaaaaaay |
| 22:20.19 | DJJeff | I can rep with sons of hodir |
| 22:20.22 | DJJeff | in K3 |
| 22:20.26 | DJJeff | to get the mammoth |
| 22:20.38 | Iriel | Technically K3 is the goblin town |
| 22:20.40 | Iriel | you mean in Storm Peaks |
| 22:21.02 | Iriel | Iriel is almost 71, she may be 80 by the time 2011 rolls around! |
| 22:23.10 | Antiarc | :O |
| 22:24.02 | Fisker | i'm killing the haste |
| 22:26.34 | zenzelezz | Iriel: sounds like you might as well wait for Cataclysm and start over to see all the changed/new stuff as well as get the last 14 levels :-p |
| 22:27.14 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe I'll have two hands by the time Cataclysm rolls around. |
| 22:27.20 | Iriel | zenzelezz: I do have 2 80's and a great many other characters. |
| 22:27.28 | zenzelezz | Iriel: aha :-) |
| 22:27.35 | Dagmar | Jes farm stonekeeper's shards then |
| 22:27.37 | Iriel | zenzelezz: another of my hunters did get to 43 last week |
| 22:27.39 | zenzelezz | when someone freezes their account, is it normal for their characters to be removed from your friend list? |
| 22:27.50 | Fisker | no |
| 22:28.10 | Fisker | characters are on your friends list until deleted or removed from the realm |
| 22:28.16 | Fisker | or faction changed of course |
| 22:28.19 | zenzelezz | hm, thought so |
| 22:28.39 | Dagmar | ...or deleted by the guy who stole the password |
| 22:28.54 | zenzelezz | that too |
| 22:29.18 | zenzelezz | I know my friend disabled his account, but he didn't say he deleted the characters. Probably just forgot :-p |
| 22:30.43 | Arrowmaster | ive still got somebody on my friends list that hasnt played in 4 years i think |
| 22:31.01 | Iriel | Likewise |
| 22:31.44 | Dagmar | What kind of madman deletes their toons |
| 22:31.46 | Lopeppeppy | I should freak out the ex and log back in to the old realm. I can log in and out, it's just a PITA to try to play. |
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| 22:51.46 | alestane | Well, Happy New Year/FelizAno Novo/Gott Nyttar/ããã¾ãã¦ããã§ã¨ããããã¾ã to everyone. Probably won't be back till tomorrow. |
| 22:52.20 | Cairenn|afk | happy new year alestane :) |
| 22:56.37 | Cairenn|afk | heading over to my folks' for supper and to celebrate New Year's, see folks after midnight (my time) |
| 22:56.52 | Lopeppeppy | Woot, have fun Cairenn |
| 22:57.41 | Cairenn|afk | such party animals, I tell ya - go hang out with my parents ;) |
| 22:57.46 | Cairenn|afk | waves and heads out the door |
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| 23:01.51 | m^rk | it appears the OnLeave script handler gets called if you mouse over a child control. is that normally the case and is there any easy way to prevent it? |
| 23:03.08 | m^rk | i want to fade the frame out when the user moves their mouse away, but if you mouse over a child frame then it calles OnLeave so it fades out then as well |
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| 23:05.03 | Iriel | it's normally the case, yes |
| 23:05.10 | Iriel | the game takes the idea of 'leave' very literally |
| 23:05.31 | Iriel | Your best bet is something in your OnUpdate handler that checks the mouse is over |
| 23:05.56 | m^rk | alright thanks alot |
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| 23:11.00 | Kraps | hey look its them putting out videos at new years http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psa6YAsrDT0&feature=player_embedded |
| 23:11.34 | Kraps | s/them/them crazies/ |
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| 23:20.55 | Adys | http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200903/errord/errord.png |
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| 23:21.29 | Aelobin | Adys: haha nice |
| 23:21.36 | bluspacecow | zomg guys |
| 23:21.43 | bluspacecow | im updating my addons |
| 23:21.48 | bluspacecow | i is lazy |
| 23:21.55 | bluspacecow | >_> <_< really lazy |
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| 23:25.59 | ScytheBlade1 | so I have a windows update prompt right now |
| 23:26.13 | bluspacecow | hmm |
| 23:26.14 | ScytheBlade1 | If I installed the updates and rebooted, despite the part where I'm booted into linux |
| 23:26.21 | bluspacecow | prompt as in CLI ? |
| 23:26.21 | ScytheBlade1 | It'd reboot a server with 20 people on it now |
| 23:26.26 | ScytheBlade1 | as in full GUI |
| 23:26.31 | bluspacecow | O_O oh noes |
| 23:26.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm at home |
| 23:26.41 | ScytheBlade1 | This is REALLY tempting |
| 23:27.07 | Fisker | i don't get it |
| 23:27.21 | bluspacecow | he wants to be an ass by rebooting a server with 20 people on it |
| 23:27.27 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/misc/desktop-odd.png |
| 23:27.31 | Fisker | oh |
| 23:27.42 | Fisker | i just don't get where the linux part came in |
| 23:27.48 | ScytheBlade1 | click and you'll see |
| 23:27.50 | bluspacecow | black screen is black |
| 23:28.13 | kd3 | grr |
| 23:28.18 | Fisker | very black |
| 23:28.20 | kd3 | damn it ups. why didn't you deliver my crap today? |
| 23:28.24 | bluspacecow | that's a 1/4 to 4 and you posted a screenshot with the rare unknown complete black desktop |
| 23:28.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I just want to click that little windows update icon.. |
| 23:28.47 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah I need to fix my ntp |
| 23:28.57 | Fisker | whatcha getting kd3 ? |
| 23:30.12 | cog|away | rawr |
| 23:30.16 | kd3 | goodies to hook up my computer to my new 32" tv |
| 23:30.18 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 23:32.26 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:32.36 | cog|away | huggles Gryphon |
| 23:32.41 | Gryphon | huggles cog|away |
| 23:33.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Is it sad that I'd rather sit here and do nothing than log in to WoW? |
| 23:33.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not even really guilded |
| 23:33.38 | cog|away | ScytheBlade1: come to kirin tor imo |
| 23:33.51 | ScytheBlade1 | why is that |
| 23:34.09 | cog|away | lunessa/unkle, kamdis, me, mrs. cog, seerah, lopeppeppy (when her hand's better), etc. |
| 23:34.15 | cog|away | among others |
| 23:34.21 | ScytheBlade1 | oh man, all the good people |
| 23:34.34 | Adys | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/A-Little-Out-of-Place.aspx |
| 23:34.38 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.40 | ScytheBlade1 | maybe when I'm done transcoding all of BSG to my droid's resolution |
| 23:35.48 | cog|away | =D |
| 23:36.11 | ScytheBlade1 | pats handbrake |
| 23:36.38 | Lopeppeppy | I'm scheduling my hand surgery for the new year! I'll come back some day when my hand bends. |
| 23:36.41 | ScytheBlade1 | nothing quite like h264! |
| 23:36.52 | Arrowmaster | did you get the complete series box? |
| 23:37.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I got the deluxe edition torrent copied from a friend's external HD |
| 23:37.21 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 23:37.27 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 23:37.38 | ScytheBlade1 | 720p though |
| 23:37.46 | cbreak | x264 is probably the best general purpose codec for video that exists today |
| 23:37.55 | Arrowmaster | x264 is not a codec |
| 23:38.01 | Aelobin | `````````` |
| 23:38.01 | cbreak | it's an encoder |
| 23:38.02 | cog|away | yay surgery (in the it'll make you better sense, not the having to do it sense) |
| 23:38.05 | ScytheBlade1 | h264 is |
| 23:38.09 | cbreak | it's the best general puprose encoder... |
| 23:38.13 | cog|away | *hug* |
| 23:38.23 | cbreak | h264 sucks when you encode it with QuickTime :) |
| 23:38.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is what this is being decoded from and encoded into, just into a lower resolution |
| 23:38.35 | ScytheBlade1 | cbreak: no, quicktime sucks, full stop :) |
| 23:39.13 | Lopeppeppy | I have to wait until Rosie's better, only one girl can have stitches at a time in this house. |
| 23:40.16 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|away: only downside is the file size.. I might look into a 32GB micro SD card |
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| 23:42.20 | cog|away | ScytheBlade1: or you could just leave out the 3rd season and the 2nd half of the final episode imo |
| 23:43.37 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah always an option |
| 23:43.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I should play with the encoding options, it is something like 500MB/episode |
| 23:44.09 | Arrowmaster | at what resolution? |
| 23:44.19 | ScytheBlade1 | 848x480 |
| 23:44.51 | Arrowmaster | what are you doing with the sound? |
| 23:45.08 | ScytheBlade1 | leaving it as whatever is in the files to begin with |
| 23:45.10 | bluspacecow | Lopeppeppy : how did you make your hand pakuru ? what has you been doing with it o_O |
| 23:45.22 | bluspacecow | i mean broke |
| 23:45.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Opening audio decoder: [liba52] AC3 decoding with liba52 |
| 23:45.37 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: its likely 5.1 ac3 or dts then and taking up about 150-200mb per ep |
| 23:45.54 | cog|away | 2-chan that shit |
| 23:46.21 | ScytheBlade1 | looks like it is being 2-channeled |
| 23:46.40 | Arrowmaster | there might be a 2ch stream already in the files, there should have been one on the bluray it was ripped from |
| 23:46.43 | bluspacecow | how about 4 channels ? |
| 23:46.47 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 23:46.50 | bluspacecow | 4chan getit |
| 23:46.52 | ScytheBlade1 | these are actually TV rips |
| 23:46.59 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 23:47.01 | cog|away | bluspacecow: http://instantrimshot.com |
| 23:47.19 | bluspacecow | :) |
| 23:47.38 | Arrowmaster | you can probably drop the quality then since the source is already less than bluray |
| 23:47.51 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 23:47.53 | bluspacecow | www.decursive.org |
| 23:48.33 | ScytheBlade1 | nah 720p rips |
| 23:48.48 | ScytheBlade1 | VIDEO: [avc1] 1280x720 24bpp 23.976 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s) |
| 23:49.00 | bluspacecow | oh hahahhahahhahahahahahah |
| 23:49.04 | bluspacecow | "Unfortunately Omen is now a dead project, it will cause lua errors in it's current form when used with 3.3 as Blizzard have changed there internal threat generator" |
| 23:49.13 | bluspacecow | *looks at omen change log emails* |
| 23:49.19 | bluspacecow | *laughs at poster* |
| 23:49.47 | cog|away | doesn't miss the forums one bit. nope. nuh uh. |
| 23:49.49 | Arrowmaster | you dont get it, if its a tvrip then the station has already overcompressed the signal and lost quality |
| 23:49.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I get that |
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| 23:50.06 | bluspacecow | i love how people make declearations about addons to cover their own laziness |
| 23:50.15 | bluspacecow | hai ck \o |
| 23:51.01 | Xinhuan | that was posted before i updated omen's toc |
| 23:51.01 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 23:51.11 | Xinhuan | it was about 2 weeks after patch then |
| 23:51.11 | bluspacecow | -_- |
| 23:51.29 | bluspacecow | meh just use "load out of date addons" |
| 23:51.40 | bluspacecow | its not like blizz leave it on for every for patch |
| 23:51.52 | bluspacecow | oh wait they turn it off for every patch includiong minor patchs |
| 23:52.11 | cog|away | virtually shakes a virtual fist @ blizzard for that one |
| 23:52.43 | NightHawkTheSane | actually shakes an actual fist. |
| 23:52.47 | Fisker | http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200911/errord/photo1.jpg <-xD |
| 23:52.47 | bluspacecow | the least they could do is when they do that pop up a dialog box that says "oh by the way you might wanna go update all your addons" |
| 23:53.03 | Fisker | btw kd3 |
| 23:53.06 | Fisker | what 32" tv is it? |
| 23:55.13 | Antiarc | 16:54 Spam Lacstjean: Need melle dps for ICC 10MEN pst 2,7k gear score requiere (ill check your GS so dont be gay) |
| 23:55.29 | bluspacecow | but |
| 23:55.32 | bluspacecow | i am gay |
| 23:55.33 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 23:55.44 | ScytheBlade1 | We need another addon similar to gear score |
| 23:55.47 | ScytheBlade1 | That rates spelling ability |
| 23:55.59 | bluspacecow | you should report him for being not a nice person to homosexuals :( |
| 23:56.06 | bluspacecow | namescore ? |
| 23:56.09 | bluspacecow | whats my namescore ? |
| 23:56.24 | cog|away | ~nickometer bluspacecow |
| 23:56.31 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 23:56.37 | Fisker | ~nickmeter cog|away |
| 23:56.38 | purl | cog|away is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 23:56.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 23:56.54 | cog|away | ~nickmeter Fisker |
| 23:56.55 | purl | Fisker is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 23:57.08 | ScytheBlade1 | ~factinfo nickmeter |
| 23:57.08 | purl | ScytheBlade1: there's no such factoid as nickmeter |
| 23:57.09 | Dolby | ~nickmeter purl |
| 23:57.10 | purl | purl is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 23:57.10 | cog|away | cs wut u did ther |
| 23:57.18 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 23:57.21 | ScytheBlade1 | You missed the 'o' |
| 23:57.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ~nickometer cog|away |
| 23:57.52 | bluspacecow | ~nickometer bluspacecow |
| 23:58.15 | cog|away | ~nickometer ||333zomgroflfuck|||||3333333 |
| 23:58.38 | Fisker | ~nickometer Fisker |
| 23:58.43 | ScytheBlade1 | lies |
| 23:58.48 | cog|away | 99.9666 is in evil evil number |
| 23:58.58 | cog|away | s/in evil/an evil,/ |
| 23:59.04 | Dagmar | ~nickometer neotehchosen |
| 23:59.10 | Dagmar | It's broken alright. |
| 23:59.16 | cog|away | haha |
