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| 00:03.43 | tekkub | ccox: gentle doesn't work with him |
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| 00:03.55 | tekkub | I can't get it through his fucking skull that stacking one stat is bad |
| 00:04.30 | ccox | it's how you get started: max one stat, stack another til diminishing returns, stack another, etc. |
| 00:04.32 | tekkub | if gear didn't have a general mix of stats and it was all up to him, he'd have all of one stat |
| 00:04.58 | ccox | can you at least point him to tankspot or other sites where they tell you how to gear a tank? |
| 00:05.15 | tekkub | he already said tankspot told him to just stack stam :P |
| 00:05.16 | ccox | and if he just plans to do 5 and 10 mans, eh, maybe he could get away with defcap+stam |
| 00:05.27 | ccox | um, no, that's not what tankspot says.... |
| 00:05.33 | tekkub | no I'm sure he "plans" on raiding |
| 00:05.38 | tekkub | even if he never actually does |
| 00:05.48 | ccox | <-- has war, dk and bear tanks |
| 00:05.50 | tekkub | like I said, he's an idiot |
| 00:06.00 | tekkub | but at least he doesn't die |
| 00:06.08 | tekkub | mostly thanks to his healer :P |
| 00:06.23 | ccox | ok, then either find what it takes to get through to him, or let him go on and fail on his own |
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| 00:06.53 | NeoTron | mind you, using stam gems is usually the way to go |
| 00:06.57 | ccox | I know when I first joined a raiding guild (um, long ago) they laughed at my gear, then helped me get better gear |
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| 00:08.08 | tekkub | I'll just let him fail :) |
| 00:08.19 | tekkub | the thing of it was he was asking me to buy the gem |
| 00:08.28 | tekkub | then argued with me for like 15 min |
| 00:08.38 | tekkub | and still managed to buy the gem for himself |
| 00:09.43 | ccox | hey, some people are just going to do things their own way (and we resemble that, eh?) |
| 00:10.23 | tekkub | yea I know, which is why I just let him fuck up on his own when he won't listen |
| 00:10.35 | tekkub | but I'm not buying shit for him if he won't listen to me |
| 00:11.09 | Joker_Maker | Wait and see, after a while he'll bitch to you that no one loves him. |
| 00:13.38 | Joker_Maker | You'd think adding frames into an already existing addon would be easier. God it's a fucking bitch. |
| 00:15.14 | ccox | Joker_Maker: all depends on how they setup their frames to start with, same goes for addiing to blizz frames (some of which were obviously written by interns) |
| 00:15.18 | tekkub | I love his argument against avoidance too |
| 00:15.31 | tekkub | "a well geared healer can sling out 2sec 20k heals" |
| 00:15.42 | tekkub | ha, not healers in gear of the same general quality as yours |
| 00:15.55 | tekkub | oh wait, he said "crit" yea |
| 00:16.04 | tekkub | never use crit as a fucking baseline jackass |
| 00:16.09 | Joker_Maker | See, I'm just trying to add a few frames here and there to go around the 512x512 texture limitation. But of course nothing works like it should. Shit I had to flip something in photoshop because I have no idea why it flipped around ._. |
| 00:16.27 | alestane | I tried to tank heroic OK today, and apparently I was getting dropped from full to dead inside a GCD by that damn shadow blast. |
| 00:17.16 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: a) that can, and SHOULD, be interrupted. b) those mobs should either be CC'd or (preferrably) primary dps targets. |
| 00:18.07 | alestane | The DPS was about as coordinated as a drunken spider with Parkinson's. |
| 00:18.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Shadow blast is not something a not-totaly-outgearing-the-instance tank is supposed to survive. |
| 00:18.16 | foxlit | c) It's a percentage deal? |
| 00:18.42 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=59102 |
| 00:19.11 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: yeah, combined with the other damage you'll be taking, even if you're at full health, it's basically one shot kill :P |
| 00:19.53 | NightHawkTheSane | thats not really a "well, it'd be neat to interrupt, but the tank can probably jsut eat it" thing. :P |
| 00:20.51 | foxlit | You're right, it's a "You should interrupt, but someone else can compensate for your shortcomings" deal :) |
| 00:21.27 | Amarande | Night: now we know why tanks are expected to have stupidly high amounts of HP just to do heroics :) |
| 00:21.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: no. that has nothing to do with it |
| 00:21.42 | Amarande | parties are lazy, they want the tank to be able to just eat anything so they don't have to learn any tactics |
| 00:21.43 | foxlit | Althought I haven't really been in OK enough gear-appropriate times to judge. |
| 00:21.56 | Amarande | Night: it doesn't have anything to do with lazy parties? |
| 00:22.06 | foxlit | In my experience, it targets and one-shots dps instead. |
| 00:22.13 | foxlit | Which is annoying, but not nearly as fatal. |
| 00:22.16 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ it's not a targets-tank-always thing |
| 00:22.24 | NightHawkTheSane | it CAN target the tank, but it need not |
| 00:22.33 | Joker_Maker | Cloak of Shadow says "No I don't get 1shot" |
| 00:22.48 | foxlit | You'd have to know it was coming, really |
| 00:23.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Joker_Maker: if it's targeting you, and you can do that, that's a good counter, if you can't interrupt it |
| 00:23.05 | foxlit | And if you knew, and you were a rogue, what the heck were you doing that prevented you from kicking it in the last 6 seconds? |
| 00:23.06 | Amarande | wtf, since when do you have to be level 10 to see your achievement window? |
| 00:23.29 | foxlit | Easy, 3.3 |
| 00:23.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Joker_Maker: but again, it comes back to the fact that it's an ability you |
| 00:23.35 | Joker_Maker | Yes. |
| 00:23.36 | Joker_Maker | :3 |
| 00:23.37 | NightHawkTheSane | you're meant to counter, not just eat. |
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| 00:23.55 | DWSR | lol |
| 00:24.00 | DWSR | Anyone got actual patchnotes for this patch? |
| 00:24.13 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: it's like 3-4 mac specific changes |
| 00:24.18 | DWSR | The official ones say "Please see this link: <cesspool of the internet>" |
| 00:24.19 | foxlit | imo wow's design of boss/monster abilities IS A SLAP IN THE FACE. |
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| 00:24.32 | kd3 | www.wowwiki.com/Patch_3.3 |
| 00:24.32 | DWSR | foxlit: I want bosses that actually slap you in the fac |
| 00:24.33 | DWSR | face* |
| 00:24.42 | DWSR | kd3: No it's 3.3.0a or something |
| 00:24.46 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: to be sure, as a tank I typically just keep that one targetted and interrupt it myself if i can. Because of the fact that I just dont trust my party members. |
| 00:24.58 | foxlit | You're virtually never given the chance to get acquainted with the mechanics while experiencing them for the first time. |
| 00:25.02 | kd3 | ...okay |
| 00:25.05 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_3.3.0a |
| 00:25.19 | foxlit | So it's always either read up beforehand, or try to read tooltips frantically during combat. |
| 00:25.37 | Amarande | speaking of rogues ... is combat swords still the spec of choice? |
| 00:26.11 | foxlit | The "Oh hey, it's a fire. I shouldn't stand in it, but will it kill me instantly? In 10s? Never?" experience is annoying. |
| 00:26.16 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: I agree, that's a very frustrating thing, especially when it comes to brief-but-deadly-or-obnoxious debuffs |
| 00:26.22 | foxlit | Dispellable debuffs in particular are EVIL. |
| 00:26.31 | foxlit | Spells mobs cast are also EVIL. |
| 00:26.48 | NightHawkTheSane | I think wow needs a built-in version of MobSpells |
| 00:27.08 | NightHawkTheSane | something that lets you, once you've actually seen the spell used, see what spells a mob can cast, what debuffs it can put on you, etc. |
| 00:27.29 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe a bestiary of somesort |
| 00:28.01 | foxlit | Your own, personal, Commander Eligor Dawnbringer? |
| 00:28.26 | kd3 | that would be awesome. did they ever add in a horde version of him? |
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| 00:29.29 | foxlit | I don't think there is one. |
| 00:29.41 | foxlit | Horde doesn't have advanced hologram technology(tm). |
| 00:30.00 | NightHawkTheSane | :o |
| 00:30.08 | NightHawkTheSane | i'll admit, this is the first time i've even HEARD of that npc. |
| 00:30.20 | NightHawkTheSane | <-- has not played alliance through Northrend yet |
| 00:30.33 | kd3 | he's cool |
| 00:30.35 | foxlit | He basically stands arround in Wintergarde and narrates the Naxx bosses. |
| 00:30.46 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Eligor_Dawnbringer_%28Wintergarde%29 |
| 00:30.49 | foxlit | He's also one of the argent dawn quest NPCs in EPL, and appears in light of dawn. |
| 00:30.53 | NightHawkTheSane | that's really awesome. and fucking lame that the horde does't get it. >< |
| 00:31.05 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: yeah, i just looked him up on wowwiki :D |
| 00:31.18 | NightHawkTheSane | knows how to use the intertubes. |
| 00:34.33 | Amarande | heh, Eligor "Dawnbringer" is such an ironic name |
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| 00:34.59 | Amarande | given that, well, Eligor is actually the name of a demon :) |
| 00:36.04 | bleeter | haha I didn't know Li'l KT killed Bigglesworth lol |
| 00:36.14 | ccox | Dawnbringer = Lightbringer = Lucifer |
| 00:37.22 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/283781398 |
| 00:37.37 | Amarande | ahh, Lucifer ... one of your best friends in some Shin Megami Tensei games |
| 00:37.38 | Dagmar | HAIL SATAN! |
| 00:37.39 | Dagmar | w00! |
| 00:37.43 | Amarande | and an utterly pathetic, anticlimactic boss in Nocturne |
| 00:38.19 | WobWork | bah |
| 00:38.29 | WobWork | Horde didn't need to be taught the Naxx boss abilities =P |
| 00:38.50 | foxlit | What's the horde doing in naxx, anyway? |
| 00:39.18 | foxlit | I don't think they have *any* quests dealing with that big floating thing. |
| 00:39.45 | WobWork | we're there to kill stuff, take names and get loot |
| 00:39.50 | kd3 | compared to the alliance... that chain still creeps me out a little thinking about it |
| 00:40.07 | WobWork | wht's the chain for alliance? |
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| 00:40.52 | kd3 | starts here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Naxxramas_and_the_Fall_of_Wintergarde |
| 00:41.12 | Thunder_Child | "members are moved to the front of the line and never have to wait" isnt that somewhat imposiible? if you never have to wait..you wouldnt be in line in the first place |
| 00:41.33 | ScytheBlade1 | guest passes have to wait for every normal user to login |
| 00:41.45 | ScytheBlade1 | in that context, no, you don't have to wai |
| 00:41.47 | ScytheBlade1 | *wait |
| 00:42.45 | kd3 | good grief... 101 builds between public releases |
| 00:42.45 | Dagmar | Let me shorten that for you |
| 00:42.48 | Dagmar | "PAY US MOAR" |
| 00:42.54 | kd3 | they're iterating pretty hard |
| 00:46.40 | ccox | Did you know that you can taste thallium and technetium after they've been injected intravenously? Neither did I, until today. |
| 00:48.18 | Amarande | and what were you doing injecting toxic and radioactive things intravenously? :D |
| 00:48.33 | ccox | treadmill stress test with imaging |
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| 00:48.52 | ccox | (still showing 30mrad/hr on my meter) |
| 00:48.56 | Amarande | <Homer> Mmmm ... Gamma rays .... |
| 00:49.10 | ccox | exactly |
| 00:49.25 | kd3 | 30mrad/hr? eesh |
| 00:49.42 | ccox | millirad, not megrad... |
| 00:50.17 | kd3 | even then, isn't baseline just standing around on the surface just a few millirad/hr? if even that? |
| 00:50.32 | ccox | 2 mrad/hr or so, depending |
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| 00:51.20 | foxlit | Why is that a rotation speed rather than a motion speed? |
| 00:51.24 | cbreak | should you get super power |
| 00:51.29 | cbreak | please tell me the exact mixture |
| 00:51.45 | foxlit | Unless rad isn't radians, of course. |
| 00:52.20 | kd3 | ~wiki rad (unit) |
| 00:53.00 | cbreak | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation_units |
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| 01:38.57 | Amarande | dear god how often does recount need to be updated |
| 01:39.01 | Amarande | I think I've updated it twice today LOL |
| 01:40.37 | cbreak | I haven't updated it since months |
| 01:40.44 | cbreak | and it still spits out values |
| 01:41.24 | Amarande | heh, now that I use curse client I just keep updating everything when there's an update and I'm not logged onto wow at the time |
| 01:41.38 | Amarande | there's only one addon I actually use that isn't on curse, anyway |
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| 01:42.14 | cbreak | I hate updating my addons on curse |
| 01:42.14 | cbreak | that page is a mess |
| 01:42.31 | Amarande | cbreak: Curse Client? :) |
| 01:42.51 | cbreak | I doubt that works |
| 01:43.11 | Torhal | cbreak: You doubt what works? |
| 01:43.12 | cbreak | I have to go to the page, log in |
| 01:43.18 | cbreak | Curse Client for updating addons |
| 01:43.23 | cbreak | I thought it's just for downloading them |
| 01:43.24 | Torhal | It works fine. |
| 01:43.27 | Torhal | Oh |
| 01:43.28 | Torhal | Yah |
| 01:43.30 | Torhal | It is |
| 01:43.43 | Torhal | But for uploading, don't use Curse - use CurseForge |
| 01:43.51 | Torhal | I don't even know if you CAN use Curse anymore |
| 01:43.54 | Cairenn | or WoWI |
| 01:43.54 | cbreak | I am not even sure if my addon is on the same revision on curse as it is on wowinterface :) |
| 01:44.25 | Torhal | Cairenn: yes, WoWI - I was just saying if he wants to upload to Curse as well, use CurseForge for that |
| 01:44.32 | Cairenn | I know ;) |
| 01:44.42 | Amarande | cbreak: Curse Client will tell you if there's an update for your addons and give you a button to "update this addon" |
| 01:44.50 | Amarande | apparently if you pay, you can get an "update everything" button but I don't pay :S |
| 01:44.55 | cbreak | I think who ever designed the curse page wanted to put in three or four times as much information as there was space for |
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| 01:45.04 | Torhal | cbreak: Curse is a mess. |
| 01:45.09 | Cairenn | Amarande: he means that to go upload his addon TO curse |
| 01:45.13 | cbreak | Amarande: how does it know if there's an update for my addon? |
| 01:45.17 | Cairenn | not download FROM curse |
| 01:45.31 | Polarina | What was the CVar to enable full taint logging? |
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| 01:45.38 | cbreak | looks behind and searches for bugs |
| 01:46.32 | Amarande | teleports cbreak to a random spot in the middle of silithus |
| 01:46.46 | cbreak | HA! I still have my HS charged |
| 01:46.53 | cbreak | (and 18 teleport runes) |
| 01:47.17 | ccox | I just keep hoping that Shirik will keep Minion up to date (or at least fix it's mis-recognition bugs) |
| 01:47.17 | Polarina | I levitate above you. |
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| 01:47.50 | Cairenn | he's been hella busy but will hopefully get a chance to put some more work on it soon :) |
| 01:47.58 | Polarina | Cairenn: :D |
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| 01:49.39 | Legorol | pictures Cairenn cracking a thorny whip over Shirik's ass |
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| 01:50.32 | Cairenn | nope, not over Minion - he's got other things that are, to us, more important - his school work, etc |
| 01:50.44 | ScytheBlade1 | and then I started working 60h workweeks |
| 01:51.05 | Cairenn | yep |
| 01:51.15 | ScytheBlade1 | curls up and dies |
| 01:51.20 | Cairenn | hugs ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:51.38 | ScytheBlade1 | 60h isn't bad... but the high stress is |
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| 01:51.53 | Cairenn | welcome back |
| 01:51.55 | Amarande | Scythe, you need a better j-o-b |
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| 01:52.32 | cbreak | Hmm... curseforge seems to work okish nowadays. Interesting :) |
| 01:53.08 | WobWork | hm, is there a name for the algorithm where one takes the first element, then applies it to the subsequent elements, then takes the -second- element, applies it to the subsequent elements (ignoring the first one) and so on? |
| 01:53.29 | cbreak | applies what? |
| 01:53.49 | WobWork | whatever function is required |
| 01:53.59 | WobWork | in my case, I'm incrementing counts |
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| 01:54.25 | WobWork | basically taking unique pairs of all the elements |
| 01:54.43 | cbreak | O(n^2) :) |
| 01:55.11 | WobWork | a,b,c,d,e goes to func(a,b), func(a,c), func(a,d), func(a,e) then func(b,c), func(b,d)... |
| 01:55.13 | cbreak | I think that's called a cross product though |
| 01:57.20 | cbreak | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_product |
| 01:57.31 | cbreak | well, not exactly |
| 01:57.31 | cbreak | since your pairs are not ordered |
| 01:57.31 | Cairenn | staples freenode together |
| 01:57.34 | cbreak | but I think it comes close |
| 01:58.19 | Torhal | Cairenn: Better use some rubber cement as well. |
| 01:58.31 | WobWork | cbreak: it's close! =) |
| 01:58.58 | Cairenn | hehe |
| 01:59.00 | Amarande | Cairenn: I recommend nanorod based chains |
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| 02:00.42 | cbreak | WobWork: In databases, that's apparently called "Cross Join" |
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| 02:00.50 | cbreak | (and when I say databases, I mean SQL) |
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| 02:02.21 | cbreak | I somehow have a feeling, you could do that in two lines of haskel... |
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| 02:04.28 | TC-Away | test |
| 02:04.58 | Wobin | cbreak: about 8 lines in C#, but I'm being wordy =) |
| 02:05.08 | cbreak | *shiver* |
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| 02:05.14 | cbreak | a slave of Microsoft! :) |
| 02:05.35 | Wobin | cause there's -no- way I'm goign to want to come back to this code and not instantly understand what's going on |
| 02:05.53 | Wobin | cbreak: A well paid slave of microsoft! |
| 02:06.02 | Wobin | I prefer minion |
| 02:06.18 | cbreak | henchman? |
| 02:06.28 | Wobin | hm, higher survival chances... |
| 02:06.53 | Wobin | Microsoft Henchman sounds kinda awesome |
| 02:08.10 | KarlKFI|work | is there anyway to trigger something when the user clicks the Stop button in the browser? |
| 02:08.10 | KarlKFI|work | ina web page with js |
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| 02:08.17 | Cairenn | staples freenode together, again |
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| 02:08.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: needs more glue |
| 02:08.54 | Yssaril | ducktape imo |
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| 02:15.25 | Amarande | wonder if cata raids will be as pug friendly as wotlk |
| 02:18.09 | NightHawkTheSane | is that an honest question and youre just dumb, or are you intentionally being dense? :P |
| 02:18.21 | A-KO | yes Amarande |
| 02:18.21 | A-KO | if not moreso |
| 02:18.30 | NightHawkTheSane | because anyone even remotely paying attention can see that the progression has been casual friendly raids with hard modes |
| 02:18.32 | A-KO | if you actually want t oaccomplish something, do heroic modes |
| 02:18.40 | A-KO | so, has anyone farmed ashen rep? |
| 02:18.45 | A-KO | can you just reset the mobs? |
| 02:18.45 | A-KO | and get rep? |
| 02:18.51 | NightHawkTheSane | A-KO: i hear people have already farmed to exalted |
| 02:18.55 | kd3 | ya |
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| 02:55.48 | ScytheBlade1 | sorry for the region bounding buuuttt |
| 02:55.48 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.hulu.com/watch/114876/caprica-pilot---extended-cut |
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| 02:58.53 | Kraps | ScytheBlade1: is BSG any good? |
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| 03:02.33 | kd3 | eesh |
| 03:02.34 | kd3 | what's up with freenode tonight? |
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| 03:05.14 | Torhal | kd3: They're using Blizzard's cross-realm code to merge channels with EffNet |
| 03:05.14 | Torhal | :D |
| 03:06.10 | Joker_Maker | wut |
| 03:09.30 | Polarina | What is the CVar to enable full taint logging? |
| 03:10.27 | Amarande | WTF |
| 03:10.35 | Amarande | someone posted a Flask of Endless Rage on our AH for 140k+ gold |
| 03:10.53 | Amarande | doesn't even look like a gold seller, since there are other FoER from the same seller posted for normalish prices |
| 03:11.09 | Polarina | Amarande: Typo? |
| 03:11.23 | Torhal | Polarina: Try taintlog, since /console taintlog 1 (or 2) works from the command line. |
| 03:11.37 | Polarina | Torhal: Thanks. |
| 03:12.15 | Amarande | I don't know how you mistype 59g 99s 99c as 141006g and change |
| 03:12.40 | Jerub | togc10. got to p3 of beasts, first time :D |
| 03:13.17 | Polarina | Amarande: :P |
| 03:16.51 | theorbtwo | Sometimes I wonder if those things are a cunning ploy to throw off everybody else's statistics. |
| 03:17.46 | theorbtwo | The average price of listings goes up, the price that people list them at goes up, the people who were smart enough to ignore outliers now have a new base price to barely beat. |
| 03:19.32 | Polarina | Stupid addons and stupid people don't go well together. |
| 03:19.46 | kd3 | whee, my 401k info is here |
| 03:19.58 | kd3 | looks at the ream of paper that got shipped to him |
| 03:20.13 | tem | theorbtwo, any decent AH addon eliminates outliers like that from the average |
| 03:20.49 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: DroidLight is where it is at (free app on the market) |
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| 03:24.11 | Amarande | wow, sunforged breastplate recipe down to 200g |
| 03:24.17 | Amarande | wonder why that recipe is so hated, anyway :) |
| 03:24.39 | Wobin | Amarande: one more towards the recipe count! |
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| 03:27.21 | Amarande | thing is it's not really a big priority for me to acquire other than for that purpose :S |
| 03:27.28 | Amarande | since I do not have a Paladin and probably won't for quite some time |
| 03:27.50 | Amarande | besides, why would I go holy :) |
| 03:29.13 | Wobin | For the lulz? |
| 03:29.32 | NightHawkTheSane | because holy is fun as hell |
| 03:31.31 | kdtresh | holy paladins don't just heal, they save lives |
| 03:31.59 | Shirik | make a holy priest |
| 03:32.01 | Shirik | fuck paladins |
| 03:32.07 | NightHawkTheSane | kdtresh: it's true |
| 03:32.45 | Amarande | Shirik: ew, fail angels |
| 03:32.48 | Amarande | I like bubbles. Disc FTW. |
| 03:32.57 | Shirik | don't make me kill you |
| 03:32.59 | NightHawkTheSane | if i was 2 healing a 10 man with my shaman, i'd want the other healer to be a pally |
| 03:33.10 | Amarande | although sadly as holy, there's been times when the fail angel has saved bad 5-man PUGs from a wipe :| |
| 03:33.11 | NightHawkTheSane | if i was 3 healing it, i'd want a pally and either a druid or a holy priest |
| 03:33.25 | Amarande | like PEOPLE WHO FAIL TO GET OUT OF THE DRAGON BREATH IN RAMPS. |
| 03:34.57 | Adys | Miranda is the next generation Miranda IM client for Windows. |
| 03:35.00 | Adys | Wtf? |
| 03:35.05 | Joker_Maker | wat |
| 03:35.07 | Adys | What kind of description is that? |
| 03:35.26 | Shirik | lol |
| 03:35.35 | Adys | WoW is the next generation World of Warcraft MMO? |
| 03:35.45 | Shirik | Microsoft Word is Word for Windows, by Microsoft |
| 03:36.00 | Adys | That would be Microsoft Word for Windows |
| 03:36.16 | Shirik | (22:34:35) (Adys) Miranda is the next generation Miranda IM client for Windows. |
| 03:36.35 | Adys | yes but theres no Miranda IM for Mac OS |
| 03:36.39 | Adys | while there is Office for Mac OS |
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| 03:43.04 | Adys | (synaptic:20952): libglade-WARNING **: Could not load support for `gnome': libgnome.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 03:43.11 | Shirik | no |
| 03:43.11 | Shirik | it is a lie |
| 03:45.04 | Amarande | hmm |
| 03:45.09 | Amarande | you can queue for the strat service entrance now? |
| 03:45.13 | Amarande | even if you don't have [Key to the City]? |
| 03:46.43 | Dagmar | Adys: Time to PANIC! |
| 03:47.06 | Polarina | Someone recommend me some random, good, light-weight addon. |
| 03:47.18 | Joker_Maker | Blizz's original UI |
| 03:47.42 | Adys | ok |
| 03:47.42 | Adys | er |
| 03:47.42 | Adys | Shirik: help |
| 03:48.12 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/133477/ |
| 03:48.13 | Adys | the game randomly crashes while I'm moving |
| 03:48.36 | Adys | my cpu also complains. |
| 03:50.40 | NightHawkTheSane | i love when my combat log breaks |
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| 03:54.07 | Polarina | Will /console spelleffect 2000 kill my client with slowness? |
| 03:54.25 | Zyn | not kill, but slow |
| 03:54.58 | Polarina | tries it out. |
| 03:55.09 | Polarina | What's the default maximum in the default ui? |
| 03:55.40 | Zyn | 9 , I think |
| 03:56.32 | Polarina | So little. |
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| 03:57.52 | Polarina | Will there be a significant quality improvement with 2000 from 9? |
| 03:58.58 | A-KO | nice, just got my sunreaver dragonhawk |
| 03:59.08 | Zyn | it will be a MUCH more dense pattern of i.e. Rain of Fire, Volley, etc |
| 03:59.26 | Zyn | with a very high value, Volley looks like you unleach 10,000 arrows a second |
| 03:59.28 | Polarina | Zyn: Nice. |
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| 04:05.09 | Amarande | oh, fucking hell |
| 04:05.11 | Amarande | STUPID GLOWIE BALLS |
| 04:05.25 | Amarande | we're doing auchenai crypts |
| 04:05.29 | Amarande | and the tank got tossed over the side :( |
| 04:07.13 | Polarina | Cairenn: The Winter Veil hunt, when is the next word going to be hidden and how many words have I missed if my first one was just now? |
| 04:07.25 | Cairenn | Polarina: read the post |
| 04:07.57 | Polarina | Cairenn: I didn't see that info in it. |
| 04:08.28 | Cairenn | This post? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28923 |
| 04:08.29 | Polarina | It has a clue from two days ago. |
| 04:08.59 | Cairenn | say what? |
| 04:08.59 | Cairenn | no |
| 04:08.59 | Polarina | Sunday, 13 December 2009's clue: |
| 04:08.59 | Polarina | The download area for special authors on the site |
| 04:08.59 | Cairenn | time zones dear |
| 04:08.59 | Torhal | Today is Monday. |
| 04:08.59 | Torhal | :D |
| 04:08.59 | Cairenn | 11:59pm EST |
| 04:09.29 | Torhal | So, last night's clue |
| 04:09.29 | Polarina | Well, that's not where I find the word I found just few minutes ago. |
| 04:09.29 | Cairenn | Polarina: if you have found a word, click on it to enter |
| 04:09.29 | Cairenn | period |
| 04:09.53 | Cairenn | it's not rocket science |
| 04:09.53 | Polarina | Cairenn: Ok. Thanks. |
| 04:09.54 | Torhal | Cairenn: Is it rocket surgery? |
| 04:09.54 | Polarina | Cairenn: I figured. |
| 04:10.45 | Wobin | http://www.flickr.com/photos/bahkubean/4175118692/in/pool-93628034@N00 |
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| 04:14.48 | Torhal | Cairenn: I can't figure out if this is spam or not - http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=170051#post170051 |
| 04:15.09 | Cairenn | gamehub? |
| 04:15.14 | Torhal | Guy just joined and it's his first post is why I was wondering |
| 04:15.20 | Cairenn | yeah, same thread |
| 04:15.31 | Cairenn | it's already been poofed, you shouldn't be able to see it if you refresh |
| 04:15.31 | Torhal | First post, BLAM huge pic with link to another site. |
| 04:15.45 | Dagmar | that would be spam |
| 04:16.18 | Cairenn | thanks for the report? |
| 04:16.20 | Cairenn | :) |
| 04:16.20 | Torhal | Dagmar: Well, it threw me off because it was game-related and not malicious. But at the same time my brain was screaming "SPAM!" |
| 04:16.28 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 04:17.20 | Adys | Cairenn: i swear, if I see this god forsaken retarded ad on wowinterface I'm going to murder you, personally |
| 04:17.24 | Cairenn | ummmm, huh? |
| 04:17.32 | Adys | idk I havent seen it yet |
| 04:17.33 | robotusch | lol |
| 04:17.35 | Torhal | Adys: Don't make Shirik bear his fangs. |
| 04:17.37 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 04:17.45 | robotusch | some rogue on our realm with the AV revered ring |
| 04:17.49 | Dagmar | Fangs are heavy, |
| 04:17.55 | Dolby | you murder Cairenn I'll murder you adys |
| 04:17.59 | Cairenn | if you see this ad, that you haven't seen yet, on WoWI, you're going to kill me? |
| 04:18.06 | Adys | You murder me, I murder Shirik, Dolby |
| 04:18.13 | Dolby | thats fine |
| 04:18.15 | Torhal | Vicious cycle! |
| 04:18.17 | Torhal | haha |
| 04:18.17 | Cairenn | how will you know if it's the right (wrong?) ad? |
| 04:18.26 | Cairenn | if you haven't seen it before |
| 04:18.38 | Adys | Oh I'll know |
| 04:18.39 | Adys | believe me |
| 04:18.41 | Adys | I'LL KNOW |
| 04:18.56 | Adys | and when the time comes... BWAHAHHAHA |
| 04:19.14 | Dolby | i should just off you now... then you cant off Cairenn |
| 04:19.19 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 04:19.30 | kd3 | hm... think it's time to shell out for a SSD so wow doesn't grind my harddrives to a halt when I port to dalaran |
| 04:19.37 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:19.49 | Dagmar | Thanks to one Proton 8000, I have destroyed over 19 terabytes of information... |
| 04:19.50 | Adys | kd3: I'd have a decent framerate on my awesomessd'd laptop |
| 04:19.58 | Adys | if it werent for intel's retarded cards |
| 04:20.00 | Dagmar | One magstrip badge, and one blizzard authenticator. |
| 04:20.04 | Dagmar | *sigh* |
| 04:20.19 | kd3 | dag? |
| 04:21.02 | Dagmar | Yeah turns out if you forget to take the badge & authenticator from around your neck and it kinda flops right down there on the bulk degausser, it'll murder them both with a quickness. |
| 04:21.15 | Dagmar | Good thing I was too much of a slacker to have put that one on my account yet |
| 04:21.19 | kd3 | oops |
| 04:21.29 | kd3 | oh wow, a degausser |
| 04:21.36 | Dagmar | Yes. A big one, too. |
| 04:21.39 | kd3 | looks for a CRT he can hit the degauss button on |
| 04:21.39 | Polarina | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=11824416250&postId=118231624175&sid=1#0 |
| 04:21.44 | Dagmar | One capable of nuking full heigh SCSI drives |
| 04:21.57 | Dagmar | kd3: That would not quite be as powerful |
| 04:22.25 | kd3 | no, I expect not. but I rather enjoyed the resounding kathump my old monitor made whenever I hit that |
| 04:22.45 | Dagmar | Yeah but it's nowhere near 8000+ gauss |
| 04:23.07 | Dagmar | http://www.protondatasecurity.com/data-destruction-products/8000-degausser/ |
| 04:23.07 | Dagmar | If it were, people with floppy disks would get kinda mad. :) |
| 04:24.25 | kd3 | but then, only a degausser? do the drives get thrown in the shredder after that? |
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| 04:25.52 | Dagmar | I don't know. Some guy from "e-Waste" comes once a month and we don't ask him too many questions |
| 04:26.08 | Amarande | aright, time to respec disc so I can instance to my heart's content on my priest. :) |
| 04:26.26 | Dagmar | For SOME reason (probably HIPPIES) we're not allowed to just stroll over to plant operations and chuck them all into the furnace they burn bits of people in. |
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| 04:26.46 | kd3 | lol |
| 04:26.48 | Dagmar | These things are only good as paperweights |
| 04:27.10 | Corrodias | Dagmar: that looks like a Star Trek TOS device |
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| 04:27.34 | kd3 | services! yay! |
| 04:28.14 | Dagmar | Corrodias: It probably generates a very pretty funnel-shaped grid field of it's warping of mag-space |
| 04:28.14 | Amarande | dammit. |
| 04:28.14 | Amarande | have to take out a loan from my banktoon. |
| 04:28.14 | Amarande | Amarelya apparently does not have the gold for a respec :( |
| 04:28.28 | Amarande | hmm, also looks like scrolls are the new gravy train |
| 04:28.38 | Polarina | I got 4400 Gold. |
| 04:28.38 | Amarande | I can sell Scrolls of Enchant Weapon - Agility for about 240g |
| 04:29.14 | Amarande | which is far more than it costs me to mainline all the large brilliant shards, essences of air and enough weapon vellums from AH :) |
| 04:29.27 | Amarande | <Turalyon Horde> Awww man, why are the LBS always selling out? :) |
| 04:29.27 | Wobin | people were trying to sell scrolls of agi 8 for 40g each |
| 04:29.27 | Dagmar | Holy crap man |
| 04:29.29 | Wobin | wtf? |
| 04:29.34 | Amarande | Wobin: not scroll of agi |
| 04:29.37 | Amarande | scroll of enchant weapon - agi |
| 04:29.41 | Amarande | the 15agi weapon enchant |
| 04:29.42 | Wobin | no no |
| 04:29.50 | Dagmar | That's like twice what they go for on my server iirc |
| 04:29.50 | Wobin | it was really scrolls of agi 8 |
| 04:30.03 | Wobin | as in the temp buff |
| 04:30.12 | Dagmar | Granted I just batch post in lots of 5 each without looking, but still |
| 04:31.18 | Dagmar | Wobin: Well, if a +20 agi stone is worth 300g more than a +16 agi stone, then that's a STEAL |
| 04:31.44 | Dagmar | +8 agi! Thats like 600g-worth of agi |
| 04:35.07 | AbsolutRayne | Thats a lot of AGI |
| 04:35.09 | AbsolutRayne | game breaking |
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| 04:35.52 | Kraps | what the hell kind of ebay feedback is this? "very hot i loved every minute of the video i must say u are so very hot" |
| 04:36.13 | Dagmar | The kind that makes me wonder who the seller is |
| 04:36.44 | Dagmar | ...or, as an alternate plan, the feedback I intend to leave for someone I just bought a few CDs from |
| 04:36.47 | Dagmar | Just for the giggles |
| 04:37.42 | Amarande | hmm, does Disc suck as bad when soloing as Holy does? |
| 04:38.09 | ccox | (who needs a degausser when you have an NMR or ESR system handy? :-) ) |
| 04:38.41 | Dagmar | ccox: YES! |
| 04:38.52 | Dagmar | You know those guys don't all have a decent sense of humor |
| 04:39.05 | ccox | and I've heard the boys at SLAC have an even better system :-P |
| 04:39.09 | Dagmar | Me gluing a watch and a few pens to the wall outside one of the labs here was not well recieved |
| 04:39.18 | ccox | Dag - nice! |
| 04:39.27 | Kraps | Amarande: it shouldnt, you get great leveling utility and another damage spell at the bottom |
| 04:40.45 | Kraps | or is it the top? |
| 04:41.02 | Kraps | never could figure that out |
| 04:41.37 | AbsolutRayne | Almost announcement tiem? |
| 04:41.49 | Kraps | for what? |
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| 04:55.08 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: for the grunty code winner |
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| 04:58.02 | Shirik | ahahaha wtf |
| 04:58.18 | Shirik | commercial with this guy wearing boxers made of bacon and releasing hounds from a cage |
| 04:58.23 | Shirik | and they come after him |
| 04:58.28 | Shirik | and at the bottom it says "do not attempt" |
| 04:58.31 | Shirik | seriously? |
| 04:58.41 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 04:59.01 | Thunder_Child | for 2 reasons. 1. they dont want to be sued. 2. PEOPLE ARE STUPID. |
| 04:59.26 | Thunder_Child | PEOPLE ARE STUPID |
| 04:59.34 | Thunder_Child | this is important to understand |
| 05:00.02 | Thunder_Child | and glad i didnt just lock the channel |
| 05:00.46 | Polarina | Holy for healing, Shadow for soloing and dealing damage, Dicipline for X. What is X? |
| 05:02.12 | Thunder_Child | pvp/MT healing |
| 05:02.28 | Thunder_Child | holy works better for raid or clumps of tanks/melee |
| 05:02.59 | Polarina | Thunder_Child: Thanks. |
| 05:04.01 | Thunder_Child | ^_^ |
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| 05:10.10 | Thunder_Child | where is the nepotism Cairenn, where? where? |
| 05:10.22 | Cairenn | hehehe |
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| 05:11.36 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: can you tell us how many people were entered in the last one? |
| 05:11.47 | Cairenn | 335 |
| 05:11.58 | Polarina | would like to know how EST maps to UTC. |
| 05:12.00 | Thunder_Child | ty |
| 05:12.11 | kd3 | right now? EST is UTC-0500 |
| 05:12.16 | Cairenn | but if you find today's, your name will be in twice for tomorrow's draw |
| 05:12.24 | Cairenn | (presuming you found yesterday's) |
| 05:12.43 | Thunder_Child | wait...what? that hurt my head |
| 05:12.45 | Thunder_Child | ohh.. |
| 05:12.47 | Polarina | So there's a new word right now that just came? |
| 05:12.52 | tekkub | Cairenn: wait a goddamn second, you're doing the drawing each day? |
| 05:12.56 | tekkub | it's all lies! |
| 05:12.57 | tekkub | LIES! |
| 05:13.04 | Cairenn | yes |
| 05:13.07 | Cairenn | said that in the post |
| 05:13.10 | Polarina | Cairenn: Nice! |
| 05:13.15 | Cairenn | try reading for a change guys :p |
| 05:13.20 | Cairenn | smacks tekkub |
| 05:13.30 | tekkub | oh wait you have daily AND a final drawing? |
| 05:13.34 | Cairenn | no |
| 05:13.45 | Torhal | tekkub: This is a WoW Daily Quest. |
| 05:13.49 | Thunder_Child | it's cumilitve (sp?) |
| 05:13.50 | batbot | Thunder_Child, nothing found. |
| 05:13.55 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: yes |
| 05:13.55 | Thunder_Child | bah i hate that word |
| 05:13.57 | kd3 | cumulative |
| 05:14.00 | Thunder_Child | ty |
| 05:14.06 | Polarina | Cairenn: Isn't it the 15th now? Why only a clue for the 14th? |
| 05:14.15 | Thunder_Child | the new one is up |
| 05:14.18 | tekkub | mmmmm cumulative |
| 05:14.27 | Cairenn | Polarina: where do you live? |
| 05:14.28 | Thunder_Child | w/e "Dances with fur" |
| 05:14.28 | tekkub | that's like my latest amusing typo... acocunt |
| 05:14.41 | Polarina | Cairenn: Iceland, UTC. |
| 05:14.46 | Cairenn | right |
| 05:14.53 | Cairenn | where I am, it's only just now after midnight |
| 05:14.54 | tekkub | "sure, let me just look at your acocunt" |
| 05:15.03 | Cairenn | when I posted it, it was 11:57pm my time |
| 05:15.08 | Cairenn | aka, yesterday |
| 05:15.11 | Polarina | Cairenn: Shouldn't there be a clue for the 15th then? |
| 05:15.12 | Cairenn | the 14th |
| 05:15.22 | Cairenn | yes, there will be a clue on the 15th |
| 05:15.28 | kd3 | at 23:57 |
| 05:15.32 | Cairenn | at 11:59pm my time |
| 05:15.41 | tekkub | Cairenn: you do plan on useing bacon one day as the word, right? Just to fuck with people? |
| 05:15.47 | Polarina | I found another word! :D |
| 05:15.47 | Cairenn | tekkub: nope |
| 05:15.54 | tekkub | I'd say use bacon every day but people would catch on to it |
| 05:16.07 | Thunder_Child | you should Cairenn, bacon would be amusing |
| 05:16.19 | tekkub | see we all agree |
| 05:16.23 | tekkub | thro in bacon one day for fun |
| 05:17.16 | Thunder_Child | ~lart ckknight_ |
| 05:17.16 | purl | teaches ckknight_ that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 05:18.09 | Dagmar | YEah right |
| 05:18.13 | Polarina | has found three (3) words. |
| 05:18.21 | Arrowmaster | just spent 83 minutes on ODST firefight getting to 200000 points..... and that was only on the tiny level, i get the feeling the bigger ones are going to fucking suck with only 2 people instead of 4 |
| 05:18.49 | tekkub | ODST? Original Dumb SOundtrack? |
| 05:19.07 | Arrowmaster | halo3 |
| 05:19.07 | Dagmar | MS Access is an interface to flat files for people who can't figure out a field separator |
| 05:19.36 | tekkub | I stand by my last statement |
| 05:20.54 | Polarina | Four words! |
| 05:23.10 | kd3 | a ddos? sigh |
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| 05:25.24 | Dagmar | I tell you we should be allowed to flay and quarter misusers |
| 05:28.27 | AbsolutRayne | Lets DDoS IRC! Good Idea! \o/ |
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| 05:31.40 | Amarande | goddamnit |
| 05:31.53 | Amarande | our tank keeps going out of LOS and then getting us wiped because I CAN'T HEAL WITHOUT LOS |
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| 05:32.31 | Polarina | LOS? |
| 05:32.49 | kd3 | line of sight |
| 05:32.59 | Thunder_Child | los of signa |
| 05:33.00 | Thunder_Child | k |
| 05:33.01 | Thunder_Child | l |
| 05:33.14 | Polarina | :( |
| 05:33.17 | Thunder_Child | loss of signal* |
| 05:33.22 | AbsolutRayne | line of coke? |
| 05:35.29 | Amarande | this is like our third wipe already in this crypts run |
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| 05:50.45 | Kraps | is mirrors edge good? |
| 05:50.56 | Adys | no |
| 05:51.09 | Adys | its another of those "all in the demo" games |
| 05:51.44 | Cairenn | AbsolutRayne: do me a favour, please? make your sig smaller on WoWI before I go in and nuke it completely |
| 05:52.11 | Adys | Cairenn: nuke, fraps it and put it on youtube |
| 05:52.33 | AbsolutRayne | Cairenn: How much smaller? |
| 05:52.43 | kd3 | if you have to ask, smaller than that |
| 05:52.47 | Adys | AbsolutRayne: Ask bibi, he's good with small things |
| 05:52.49 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=684&postcount=2 |
| 05:53.12 | AbsolutRayne | kk |
| 05:53.24 | AbsolutRayne | Will be changed when im not yelling at poeple in vent |
| 05:58.49 | AbsolutRayne | Cairenn: Duun! |
| 05:58.59 | Cairenn | AbsolutRayne: thanks :) |
| 05:59.04 | AbsolutRayne | np |
| 05:59.18 | AbsolutRayne | returns to slaying monkeys in the jungle |
| 05:59.20 | Thunder_Child | lol Adys |
| 06:00.35 | AbsolutRayne | Yay! \o/ |
| 06:01.05 | Thunder_Child | shiibots gone |
| 06:01.05 | Thunder_Child | SPAM |
| 06:01.34 | Thunder_Child | SPAM |
| 06:01.34 | Thunder_Child | XD |
| 06:01.59 | AbsolutRayne | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:03.32 | Thunder_Child | shakes his finger |
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| 06:05.33 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|AFK: |
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| 06:06.54 | Shirik | ? |
| 06:07.07 | Thunder_Child | there was spam in here when Shiibot was split |
| 06:11.36 | Balreign | yep... 4 spam |
| 06:18.11 | AbsolutRayne | hRM |
| 06:18.13 | Dagmar | <Thunder_Child> SPAM |
| 06:18.19 | Dagmar | Naughty, naughty. |
| 06:22.05 | AbsolutRayne | I cant find any more words :P |
| 06:23.06 | Polarina | AbsolutRayne: Good for you. |
| 06:27.26 | AbsolutRayne | So is the Quest Tracker borked for anyone else? |
| 06:27.54 | AbsolutRayne | I cant seem to track more than 2 quests at a time |
| 06:28.14 | kd3 | ya. we can't resize it at present |
| 06:28.18 | kd3 | utterly pissing me off |
| 06:30.07 | AbsolutRayne | Just making sure it wasnt something I was doing wrong |
| 06:30.08 | AbsolutRayne | haha |
| 06:30.14 | AbsolutRayne | Its driving me crazy, too |
| 06:31.40 | Amarande | Another awesome thing about Disc. It is one of the few specs that cannot currently be, and most likely never will be able to have its performance measured by raw meters. |
| 06:31.48 | Amarande | I don't think we'll ever get to measure "damage mobs didn't get to do" |
| 06:39.58 | AbsolutRayne | Amarande: I think theres an Absorb feature in the new Recount |
| 06:40.01 | Thunder_Child | there is an absorbed section on recount |
| 06:40.13 | Thunder_Child | not new |
| 06:40.34 | AbsolutRayne | Ah, sorry. Thought it was faily new |
| 06:41.07 | Thunder_Child | out for 6 monts at least. though in the begining it was a plugin to it vs part of it |
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| 06:41.54 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, "absorb" is actually a really easy thing to determine. |
| 06:42.05 | ZorbaTHut | now, what I've always wanted was a meter that somehow credits buffs to the people providing those buffs. |
| 06:42.15 | ZorbaTHut | that would be deeply fascinating. |
| 06:43.07 | Thunder_Child | there is |
| 06:43.19 | Thunder_Child | i made tekkub write it for me |
| 06:43.45 | Thunder_Child | ZorbaTHut: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info15287-Buffoon.html |
| 06:43.56 | Thunder_Child | err.. |
| 06:44.17 | Thunder_Child | i thought it was tek |
| 06:46.23 | Amarande | you know |
| 06:46.29 | Amarande | sometimes I wonder if we really need meters, anyway :) |
| 06:46.40 | Amarande | especially in this day and age of casual friendly raids |
| 06:46.52 | Amarande | they probably had their highest importance in BC where everything was on nail-biting enrage timers |
| 06:47.04 | Thunder_Child | wth tekkub, i know you wrote it, it's on your site |
| 06:47.27 | Nechckn | Thunder_Child that is another one with the same name |
| 06:49.11 | ZorbaTHut | thunder, but it doesn't credit the DPS increase |
| 06:49.13 | ZorbaTHut | that's what I want |
| 06:50.04 | Thunder_Child | thats not what you said |
| 06:50.07 | Nechckn | http://github.com/tekkub/Buffoon <<-- Thunder_Child |
| 06:50.12 | Thunder_Child | Nechckn: that does the same thing? |
| 06:50.26 | Nechckn | indeed, yep, not *exactly* but close |
| 06:51.04 | Nechckn | if you read the comments, it is sort of humorous, actually |
| 06:51.38 | Nechckn | The person had called it something else, but that ended up being taken, so they renamed it.. only to find that Tek had one on their "personal" site with the same name |
| 06:52.03 | Nechckn | I suppose there are only so many Buff<whatever> names available, though |
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| 07:02.26 | ZorbaTHut | eh, we were just talking about dps meters, I think it's a logical extension |
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| 07:19.16 | Adys | I was |
| 07:19.24 | Adys | just |
| 07:19.26 | Adys | i dunno, creepy |
| 07:20.01 | Adys | I was cooking up some nice tinyurl for Shirik |
| 07:20.03 | Adys | thinking |
| 07:20.14 | Adys | "URL shorteners is one of the only things Google hasnt done yet" |
| 07:20.17 | Adys | http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2009-12-15-n60.html |
| 07:20.47 | Shirik | rofl Adys |
| 07:21.03 | Amarande | blogoscoped ... that sounds like it should be the homepage of a certain politician here in the States |
| 07:21.38 | Adys | i swear Shirik |
| 07:21.44 | Adys | I opened my rss 10 seconds later |
| 07:22.03 | Adys | I was like "`(O_O)´" |
| 07:22.40 | ZorbaTHut | random dungeon, get into an HoR littered with corpses. die on first pull. leave party. I shall try again in ten minutes. |
| 07:23.10 | Yssaril | lol |
| 07:23.33 | robotusch | xD |
| 07:23.35 | Amarande | Zorba, apparently you're not the only one having trouble with fail dungeoneering |
| 07:23.43 | Amarande | http://forthebubbles.wordpress.com/2009/12/14/the-joys-of-random-pugging/ |
| 07:25.12 | Amarande | also: here is perhaps the most fail DPS person ever to grace WoW: |
| 07:25.23 | Amarande | [A random warrior] then proceeds to do 500 DPS [in heroic Nexus] as arms spec. |
| 07:25.33 | robotusch | :> |
| 07:25.37 | robotusch | I had a priest in a group once |
| 07:25.54 | Amarande | I did more than that on my warlock against Keri when I was forced to rely on only like two spells out of my usual rotation because I was going for the achievement and thus couldn't afford to cast anything taking more than two seconds. |
| 07:26.06 | ZorbaTHut | honestly, usually it's fine |
| 07:26.07 | robotusch | He only had his healing spec and healing gear, but he didn't heal :/ |
| 07:26.08 | Amarande | It boggles me to think of anyone managing to do 500. :| |
| 07:26.13 | ZorbaTHut | and I've seen worse than 500 dps :P |
| 07:26.24 | ZorbaTHut | it's just, HoR, no, I am not going to spend two hours slogging through that. |
| 07:26.30 | robotusch | so he proceeded to do something like 3-400 dps for the entire instance :\ |
| 07:26.44 | Thunder_Child | had a DK do 600 and change dps in a heroic the other day |
| 07:26.47 | robotusch | Pro priest-tip: Mind Sear is awzum on single-target >_> |
| 07:26.55 | Shirik | most of my pugs lately have had the tank as the top DPS |
| 07:26.56 | Shirik | and worse |
| 07:26.57 | ZorbaTHut | robo, that's how much I do in instances right now . . . on my healer, while healing |
| 07:27.02 | Shirik | one of them today had the HEALER as the top dps |
| 07:27.21 | robotusch | Had an interesting Ick fight the other day though |
| 07:27.28 | robotusch | all 3 DPS took a nosedive after the poison nova |
| 07:27.28 | ZorbaTHut | Ick is the best fight |
| 07:27.37 | ZorbaTHut | it's a ton of fun, *and* it instantly shows you who sucks |
| 07:27.40 | robotusch | so me & the priest healer killed him ourselves |
| 07:27.51 | ZorbaTHut | "Kill them all, while they're still close!" <-- why the fuck are you just standing there, run you morons |
| 07:27.51 | robotusch | oh |
| 07:28.03 | robotusch | and then there was the druid healer who used nothing but Nourish |
| 07:28.10 | robotusch | .. and then complained that he had mana issues |
| 07:28.32 | robotusch | On the other hand |
| 07:28.33 | ZorbaTHut | man, I've had instances where I cast Starfall more often than Nourish |
| 07:28.49 | robotusch | then you get people like the kitty dps who pulled 6-7k dps off on single target |
| 07:29.03 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, that heroic was . . . interesting |
| 07:29.06 | ZorbaTHut | the HoR |
| 07:29.10 | ZorbaTHut | hunter doing 1200, paladin doing 5500 |
| 07:29.31 | ZorbaTHut | healer who can't keep an ilvl-230-average tank up |
| 07:29.34 | Amarande | Zorba: granted, there tends to be a deficit of decent hunter weapons unless you raid regularly or got lucky in PoS |
| 07:29.59 | ZorbaTHut | amarande, no there isn't, and that doesn't excuse 1200dps. |
| 07:31.13 | ZorbaTHut | there is exactly one weapon for each spec in totc and there is exactly one weapon for each spec in the icc 5-mans (I don't know if they're all in PoS, they might be) |
| 07:31.14 | Amarande | hmm, was the hunter's weapon skill up to speed? |
| 07:31.32 | ZorbaTHut | hunters are no worse off than any other class. |
| 07:31.47 | ZorbaTHut | I couldn't say, but if they're doing HoR, I'd sure as hell hope so. |
| 07:31.49 | Amarande | Zorba: TotC goes under "raid regularly" |
| 07:32.00 | ZorbaTHut | I'm referring to the 5-man. |
| 07:32.08 | Amarande | and there's a good chance they went straight through the three five-mans without stopping to gather the best loot from each |
| 07:32.16 | Amarande | hmm |
| 07:32.34 | ZorbaTHut | haha I just checked their gear on the armory |
| 07:32.38 | ZorbaTHut | they *have* the PoS weapon. |
| 07:32.48 | Amarande | zorba: rest blues? :) |
| 07:33.13 | Amarande | And don't tell me they just tried to auto shot their way through. |
| 07:33.17 | ZorbaTHut | almost all purples |
| 07:33.32 | ZorbaTHut | missing enchants, missing gems |
| 07:33.46 | robotusch | speaking of awesome armories, I have a new hero |
| 07:33.47 | robotusch | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&cn=Jeppedruid |
| 07:33.49 | ZorbaTHut | auto shot accounting for 31% of damage |
| 07:33.49 | Amarande | hmm, any of the purples from ICC 5-mans? |
| 07:33.56 | ZorbaTHut | well, there's the weapon, for one |
| 07:34.02 | Amarande | I mean, the ones missing gems/enchants |
| 07:34.22 | ZorbaTHut | the major missing-gem item isn't from ICC 5-man |
| 07:34.30 | ZorbaTHut | it's actually the ilvl232 T9 legs. |
| 07:34.43 | Amarande | although I suppose it's possible they did a whole bunch of heroics in a row and just bought that T9 between instances |
| 07:34.58 | ZorbaTHut | hey nice, they've got almost 12% hit |
| 07:35.02 | ZorbaTHut | how much hit do hunters need? |
| 07:35.03 | Amarande | after all, who carries around spare scrolls/spellthreads/legarmor all the time? |
| 07:35.04 | Amarande | 8% |
| 07:35.15 | ZorbaTHut | 12%, baby. 13% counting my squid aura. |
| 07:35.19 | ZorbaTHut | no, I think they just suck, honestly. |
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| 07:36.01 | ZorbaTHut | oops, 14%, they have precisely one point in Focused Aim |
| 07:36.51 | ZorbaTHut | I was going to post their armory but my clipboard's broken again and all I can post is http://www.hamovhotov.com/fun/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/baby-alligator-rides-on-mother.jpg |
| 07:36.57 | ZorbaTHut | but, y'know what, I'm just going to leave it like that. |
| 07:37.17 | robotusch | d'aww |
| 07:37.39 | Amarande | oh, apparently at least as far as most 5-man pugging is concerned, Recount is permanently broken. Good riddance. :) |
| 07:38.16 | ZorbaTHut | nah, it's just that a lot of people have the combat log range set way down. turn it back up and it works passably well. |
| 07:38.30 | ZorbaTHut | it's also possible blizzard will re-enable the addon channel for cross-realm groups, which will fix it again. |
| 07:39.32 | Thunder_Child | mine seems to be working fine...whats the issue? |
| 07:40.13 | Arrowmaster | i didnt think it was possible to change the combatlog range since 2.4 |
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| 07:51.22 | Amarande | T_C: it's not like it actually gives *errors* |
| 07:51.32 | Amarande | basically, Recount has issues now because there is no cross-server addon channel |
| 07:51.44 | Amarande | therefore, you only see your own DPS accurately, and anyone who was in combat log range the whole time |
| 07:51.55 | Amarande | anyone else is going to be inaccurate to some or other degree of wild. |
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| 07:55.51 | Amarande | basically, if people appear to suck horribly on your recount, it -may- be recount doing the sucking :) |
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| 07:56.19 | ZorbaTHut | in this case, it was the first pull of HoR, so we were all jammed together in a little corner |
| 07:56.40 | Amarande | I've heard HoR is quite HoRrible for really quite a lot of people now |
| 07:56.46 | ZorbaTHut | it's a tough instance |
| 07:56.54 | ZorbaTHut | I mean, it's just flat-out difficult. |
| 07:57.02 | Amarande | from what I gather, it's basically a shock treatment return to the BC level of heroic difficulty |
| 07:57.09 | Amarande | after being used to easy heroics for such a long time |
| 07:57.26 | ZorbaTHut | I wouldn't say that, but it *is* a reasonably hard instance. I mean, take UP when you're in blues and greens |
| 07:57.29 | Amarande | remembers how evil BC heroics were, too |
| 07:57.30 | ZorbaTHut | it's kind of similar. |
| 07:57.41 | ZorbaTHut | (heroic UP, of course) |
| 07:58.20 | Yssaril | what ZorbaTHut said exept you are basically on a timed run and if you don't make it you die |
| 07:59.43 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: it's probably the hardest heroic curently around |
| 07:59.53 | NightHawkTheSane | but if you're decently geared, its not hard if you dont suck |
| 08:00.22 | ZorbaTHut | night, yeah, my point is basically that if you took all the original wrath heroics, and boosted them by two tiers of gear, HoR would *still* be hard compared to them but not very unreasonably so |
| 08:00.33 | ZorbaTHut | it would probably be the toughest heroic but not by a large margin. |
| 08:02.10 | Amarande | Harder than heroic MgT when 2.4 was current? |
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| 08:04.56 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont think so |
| 08:05.21 | NightHawkTheSane | probably similarly on par, in a relativistic sense |
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| 08:07.28 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: agreed |
| 08:07.52 | Adys | ~ping |
| 08:07.52 | purl | ~pong |
| 08:08.10 | Adys | ... okay |
| 08:08.44 | Adys | yesterday, all disappointed in google dns in EU, I switch back to opendns |
| 08:08.50 | Adys | and now its down |
| 08:09.05 | Joker_Maker | Stay loyal, twoface. |
| 08:09.45 | Adys | well opendns can suck my tits, gonna try google's again. |
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| 08:18.36 | [Wobin] | ~wowalert |
| 08:18.37 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
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| 08:19.00 | zenzio | "Profiting from someone else's innovation without payment is fundamentally unfair. All we want is what's fair", says patent troll. Someone should go tell them about all the patented things they use every day for free |
| 08:19.03 | [Wobin] | no reboot? |
| 08:19.27 | [Wobin] | zenzio, no, you might blow their TINY LITTLE MINDS |
| 08:19.48 | [Wobin] | I guess "Fair" == "Mine" |
| 08:20.10 | zenzio | sounds about right |
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| 08:29.09 | Adys | Ok |
| 08:29.13 | Adys | This isn't only dns |
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| 08:31.50 | Adys | I have a huge amount of packet loss on some IPs |
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| 08:33.26 | Adys | make that many ips :/ |
| 08:33.55 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/133516/plain/ |
| 08:35.18 | Adys | ~ping |
| 08:35.19 | purl | ~pong |
| 08:35.51 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Adys |
| 08:35.51 | purl | rm -rf's Adys |
| 08:36.12 | Shirik | patents the internet |
| 08:36.57 | Shirik | batrick |
| 08:37.00 | Shirik | fuck nmap |
| 08:37.01 | Shirik | ok |
| 08:37.23 | Shirik | emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy ">=dev-lang/lua-5.1.4-r1[deprecated]". |
| 08:37.23 | Shirik | !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: |
| 08:37.24 | Shirik | - dev-lang/lua-5.1.4-r4 (Change USE: +deprecated) |
| 08:37.24 | Shirik | (dependency required by "net-analyzer/nmap-5.00-r2" [ebuild]) |
| 08:37.32 | Shirik | Tell them to l2usecorrectlua |
| 08:38.30 | Adys | suck it up, gentooer |
| 08:38.40 | Shirik | it's not a gentoo problem |
| 08:38.47 | Shirik | it's a nmap is using deprecated features problem |
| 08:39.09 | Shirik | I can easily fix it in gentoo with half of a line |
| 08:39.17 | Shirik | but I don't WANT to |
| 08:39.35 | Thunder_Child | then stop bitching about it |
| 08:39.40 | Shirik | no |
| 08:39.42 | Thunder_Child | either fix it or dont use it |
| 08:39.52 | Shirik | I'll fix it in nmap |
| 08:40.02 | Shirik | and then they will be like "omg Shirik you are so much more awesome than batrick" |
| 08:40.07 | Shirik | and then I will be like "damn right I am" |
| 08:40.43 | haste | this is why you don't use gentoo |
| 08:40.47 | haste | but exherbo instead! |
| 08:40.58 | Shirik | what does any of this have to do with gentoo... |
| 08:41.10 | haste | :3 |
| 08:41.12 | Thunder_Child | lol "Druids will now be able to shapeshift out of a spell-reflected Entangling Roots spell." |
| 08:41.24 | Shirik | rofl |
| 08:41.26 | Shirik | where do you see that? |
| 08:41.31 | Dolby | Shirik is he man |
| 08:41.41 | Thunder_Child | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/23/21723843880-recent-ingame-fixes--decmeber-2009--129.html |
| 08:44.41 | Shirik | "In Ulduar, the Salvaged Demolisherâs Hurl Boulder ability will now properly ignite tar. " |
| 08:44.47 | Shirik | Seriously, how the fuck does stuff like this break |
| 08:44.54 | Shirik | shouldn't even be touched... |
| 08:45.07 | Adys | shared code that gets modified |
| 08:45.13 | Adys | shared spells |
| 08:45.16 | Adys | shared mechanics |
| 08:45.35 | Thunder_Child | shared needles |
| 08:45.46 | haste | shared diseases |
| 08:45.53 | Adys | shared folders |
| 08:45.54 | Shirik | if it's shared then it needs unit tests |
| 08:46.11 | Adys | i bet blizz doesnt have a single unit test for wow |
| 08:46.11 | Shirik | and if unit tests aren't ccatching it, then either the tests are insufficient or the requirements are improperly set |
| 08:46.23 | ZorbaTHut | it's pretty clear that they don't have any kind of substantial unit tests |
| 08:46.48 | haste | I don't really see why people avoid unit tests tho' |
| 08:47.03 | ZorbaTHut | haste, they're difficult to write and maintain, and sometimes they're of questionable use |
| 08:47.13 | ZorbaTHut | I don't have unit tests for much of my code, it's just not worth the trouble. |
| 08:47.14 | Shirik | Because people (1) think they're awesome and perfect, and (2) refuse to believe that they save time |
| 08:47.15 | haste | that really depends |
| 08:47.24 | krka | i bet they have tests for a lot of code, but not much for "content" such as quests |
| 08:47.37 | ZorbaTHut | really, it's spells that they clearly aren't testing properly |
| 08:47.44 | haste | game mechanics are most likely in the part that's hard to test |
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| 08:47.58 | ZorbaTHut | they should be testing every player ability, every trinket proc, and every major boss ability. |
| 08:48.03 | Shirik | haste: Design for test |
| 08:48.22 | ZorbaTHut | more than that, I admit I personally wouldn't bother with. |
| 08:48.23 | krka | game mechanics are easy to test |
| 08:48.35 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: >.> the scope of regression testing something the size of wow has got to be crazy |
| 08:48.40 | Shirik | And hell, if you want to REALLY get awesome |
| 08:48.50 | ZorbaTHut | nighthawk, yes, but on the other hand, the simple scope of *making* something to size of WoW is rather crazy |
| 08:48.52 | haste | but hey! |
| 08:48.53 | Shirik | Write ACL2 theorems to prove a boss will never hit over 50k on a properly geared tank, etc. |
| 08:48.57 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: also true |
| 08:48.58 | haste | at least they don't have unit tests like wine :D |
| 08:49.00 | Shirik | now THAT would be awesome |
| 08:49.01 | ZorbaTHut | if they can make it, they can certainly test the critical stuff |
| 08:49.03 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont mean to say they shouldn't try :) |
| 08:49.48 | ZorbaTHut | what always makes me wonder is when items show up that are mis-itemized. shouldn't that be trivially tested by computer? |
| 08:50.31 | haste | no |
| 08:50.32 | ZorbaTHut | and, like, if I were them, I'd have "perfect rotation" UI mods so I could test every class in a synthesized Patchwerk case, just to demonstrate empirically what kind of DPS various classes can do. And yet I've never seen any evidence of that. |
| 08:50.37 | NightHawkTheSane | i assume you mean grossly above/under budget? |
| 08:50.42 | ZorbaTHut | nighthawk, yeah |
| 08:50.58 | ZorbaTHut | it's not incredibly common, but it's certainly more common than it should be |
| 08:51.16 | haste | but what if it's intended? |
| 08:52.29 | ZorbaTHut | if they have items that are intentionally mis-budgeted, they just add a little override flag for "don't yell at us for this" |
| 08:52.43 | ZorbaTHut | however, considering that most of those seem to get corrected eventually, I think that's rare. |
| 08:59.08 | Adys | ~ping |
| 08:59.09 | purl | ~pong |
| 08:59.30 | [Wobin] | http://thinkprogress.org/2009/12/14/smokey-joe-warming/ |
| 08:59.33 | [Wobin] | ...whut...? |
| 09:01.16 | [Wobin] | PS |
| 09:01.17 | [Wobin] | http://petitions.tigweb.org/oznetcensorship |
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| 09:03.53 | Thunder_Child | lol "30549 have signed so far - help us get to 1,000." |
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| 09:07.38 | Adys | PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 09:07.38 | Adys | 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=131 ttl=243 time=65.6 ms |
| 09:07.38 | Adys | 166 packets transmitted, 1 received, 99% packet loss, time 165348ms |
| 09:07.38 | Adys | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 65.692/65.692/65.692/0.000 ms |
| 09:07.42 | Adys | that makes no sense at all |
| 09:07.57 | Adys | this is ethernet link btw |
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| 09:18.58 | Adys | Shirik: ping |
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| 09:32.18 | Adys | 1175 packets transmitted, 13 received, 98% packet loss, time 1175338ms |
| 09:32.36 | Amarande | Adys: fail network is made of fail? |
| 09:36.54 | Kalroth | Adys: did your network ... surrender?! |
| 09:37.41 | Adys | its a greek network |
| 09:38.03 | Amarande | Adys: ahh, that explains it. you only get good packet reception if Zeus likes you. :) |
| 09:39.01 | Adys | yes |
| 09:39.05 | Adys | Zeus |
| 09:39.13 | Adys | also known as "Wireless" Jupiter, back in rome |
| 09:40.44 | Amarande | If Zeus doesn't like you, he smites down your packets with thunderbolts before they can reach their destination |
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| 09:46.33 | Amarande | hmm |
| 09:46.41 | Amarande | should I check my spoiler list of what people bought me from amazon for xmas |
| 09:46.55 | Adys | jesus |
| 09:47.00 | Amarande | or will that cause all my winter veil gift boxes to contain [Coal] ... :| |
| 09:47.01 | olafski | wow I can't imagine killing the abominable greench in the evening |
| 09:47.03 | Adys | some people like you enough to buy you gifts? |
| 09:47.31 | Amarande | speaking of which, I was very disappointed my first winter veil when I learned you couldn't gift wrap coal |
| 09:47.33 | olafski | you'll just start thinking about all the bad things that can happen with your gifts amarande ;) |
| 09:48.02 | olafski | I kinda forgot where you get a thrashing racer :< |
| 09:48.11 | Amarande | olafski: that was last year |
| 09:48.19 | Amarande | it looks like we're getting a red ryder BB gun or something of the like this year |
| 09:48.20 | olafski | still need it for the achievement though |
| 09:48.26 | olafski | oh wait |
| 09:48.28 | olafski | they removed that part :) |
| 09:48.32 | Amarande | and the winter veil achievement related to it seems very pvp oriented :( |
| 09:49.02 | Amarande | you know, the PvP oriented holiday achievements seem to me to run very counter to the idea of the holiday achievements in the first place |
| 09:49.06 | olafski | hmm. yeah :< |
| 09:49.22 | olafski | I skipped the childrens week stuff for that |
| 09:49.22 | Amarande | from what I understand, it's generally accepted that holiday achievements exist to let the more casual players have something relatively simple that just requires them to put in the time |
| 09:49.26 | Amarande | however, when you add all that PvP stuff |
| 09:49.41 | Amarande | it makes the violet proto drake maddeningly hard to get, possibly harder than the raid drakes for many |
| 09:49.42 | olafski | do you get durability loss if you die from enemy guards btw? |
| 09:50.01 | Amarande | can't remember ... last time I went into SW was to visit stocks and I got naked till I got inside the instance |
| 09:50.12 | Amarande | well not completely naked, but I removed all my gear that had durability |
| 09:50.22 | olafski | yeah I was going to do that, but if I don't get dura loss I might as well go in tank gear |
| 09:50.25 | Amarande | because next thing it basically means you have to stack hundreds of resil to get a holiday achievement. |
| 09:50.37 | olafski | which incidentally is the only gear my chinese friend did not strip from my character |
| 09:51.32 | Amarande | you know, come to think of it |
| 09:51.34 | Amarande | if resil is so powerful |
| 09:51.46 | Amarande | why do people still bother to stack crit on serious pvp builds when they know it's going to get blunted by enemy resil? |
| 09:52.08 | olafski | a lot of stuff depends on crits to proc |
| 09:52.11 | olafski | and resil doesn't remove all crits |
| 09:52.16 | Amarande | that seems to me a bit of "okay, this guy always has Rock. Let's play Scissors." |
| 09:52.51 | Amarande | then there's the classic koan of class balance |
| 09:53.12 | Amarande | <Rock> That Paper is sure OP and needs a good nerfin' ... but Scissors is just fine and needs to L2P |
| 09:56.13 | olafski | I've had an open ticket for >24 hours now.. blah |
| 10:05.00 | Joker_Maker | you can go offline and they'll eventually answer via email. |
| 10:06.00 | olafski | yeah but I'd kinda like to talk to them about this one :> |
| 10:06.03 | Adys | [11:01:16] <[Wobin]> http://petitions.tigweb.org/oznetcensorship |
| 10:06.09 | Adys | re that, since i only got it to load just now |
| 10:06.21 | Adys | country-wide petitions are meh |
| 10:06.29 | Adys | its happening in many, many countries |
| 10:06.46 | Adys | italy, uk, france, greece, US, australia |
| 10:06.53 | Adys | many more |
| 10:08.11 | Adys | night |
| 10:17.26 | Dagmar | Wow. I think the patent system just audibly broke |
| 10:18.44 | Amarande | Dagmar: did someone actually get granted a patent on "the use of the binary number system for computational purposes"? :) |
| 10:19.19 | Dagmar | No, but some package of jackals just pulled a massive submarine suit over AJAX |
| 10:19.40 | Dagmar | THey're suing um, everybody |
| 10:19.58 | Dagmar | ...and making the most self-serving argument for it I've ever seen. |
| 10:20.11 | Cairenn | ummm, that page (Wobin) is rather old, yes? |
| 10:20.11 | Amarande | what's AJAX again? |
| 10:20.12 | Dagmar | Looks like the concept of independent origin will have to come out |
| 10:20.19 | Amarande | Heya Cairenn :) |
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| 10:20.27 | Cairenn | hi Amarande |
| 10:20.31 | Amarande | How's you? |
| 10:20.33 | Dagmar | Amarande: Um, it's the thing that makes rapid bidirectional communications between a browser and a web server possible |
| 10:20.36 | Cairenn | you always seem so surprised to see me |
| 10:20.42 | Cairenn | I is. You? |
| 10:20.43 | Dagmar | Well, it doesn't exactly make it possible, but it's one way to do it |
| 10:20.48 | Amarande | is well, going to bed soon |
| 10:20.51 | Dagmar | They're claiming they published this invention in 1993. |
| 10:20.52 | Cairenn | nod |
| 10:20.59 | Dagmar | So basically, they're claiming they invented the non-static web page. |
| 10:21.04 | Dagmar | I am floored. |
| 10:21.05 | Amarande | well, you go idle for long stretches at a time, I figure you actually go away for that period of time and thus warrant a welcome when you return :D |
| 10:21.28 | Cairenn | oh, I appreciate the welcome, but I'm here a lot more than I'm not ;) |
| 10:23.57 | Amarande | anyway. time for me to get some sleep |
| 10:23.59 | Amarande | night folks :) |
| 10:24.07 | Cairenn | sweet dreams :) |
| 10:25.25 | Amarande | you too, when you go :) |
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| 10:45.45 | Fisker | You wouldn't kill a Fisker |
| 10:48.26 | olafski | amarande left :< was going to say you don't need to do the BB King achievement for the meta |
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| 10:50.58 | bleeter | so, ah, I see the Fail To Change Realm Annoyance is still a Feature |
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| 10:52.12 | [Wobin] | yep |
| 10:54.22 | bleeter | that's been there since... when? forever? |
| 10:54.38 | bleeter | least 3.0, if not before |
| 10:55.34 | olafski | oO |
| 10:55.40 | olafski | what is this fail to change realm annoyance :< |
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| 11:00.09 | [Wobin] | forever afaik |
| 11:00.32 | [Wobin] | basically if you try to change realms after using /camp |
| 11:00.34 | [Wobin] | you can't |
| 11:00.40 | [Wobin] | you have to log out and log back in again |
| 11:00.56 | zenzio | ..? |
| 11:01.04 | zenzio | how peculiar is that |
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| 11:05.52 | olafski | really? never noticed this |
| 11:06.45 | olafski | is it some /camp specific thing? because I just logged off using the ingame menu and it worked fine |
| 11:08.48 | Fisker | it's a battle.net thing to my knowledge |
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| 11:11.20 | batrick | Shirik: we don't build nmap for distributions. |
| 11:11.30 | batrick | so your complaint is with your shitty linux distro |
| 11:12.04 | airtonix | ^^^ |
| 11:12.14 | airtonix | small mercies for apt |
| 11:15.47 | robotusch | Fusker, I wouldn't steal a car, but I'd download one if I could |
| 11:16.47 | Jerub | sigh |
| 11:16.50 | Jerub | stupid realm shudown |
| 11:16.55 | robotusch | lol, again? |
| 11:17.06 | eidolarr | well it's patch day |
| 11:17.18 | Jerub | it's 9pm aussie time |
| 11:17.20 | robotusch | we had ours like 6 hours agi |
| 11:17.27 | eidolarr | oh damn! |
| 11:17.31 | robotusch | .. and god damn if that wasn't the biggest kick in the nuts |
| 11:17.31 | eidolarr | how was it? |
| 11:17.47 | robotusch | First I missed out on Dart by like 10 seconds |
| 11:18.02 | robotusch | and then I raced to find Tekk the Leaper, hoping I could at least get that nest instead |
| 11:18.28 | robotusch | 10 seconds after NPCScan went off, and while I was trying to find it, the server went down |
| 11:18.31 | robotusch | -.- |
| 11:19.50 | Jerub | robotusch: you'd have known where he was if you'd used QH radar |
| 11:19.57 | Jerub | ;) |
| 11:20.00 | robotusch | meh |
| 11:20.02 | robotusch | the problem was |
| 11:20.08 | robotusch | I was coming up along the river |
| 11:20.34 | robotusch | and Tekk was on the plateau above, so I was trying like mad just to get up to it :/ |
| 11:21.33 | Fisker | slaps robotusch around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:22.19 | zenzio | ... before reading the conversation I thought you meant that Tekkub was on a plateau and you were trying to reach him o_O |
| 11:22.31 | Jerub | so how do i do that thing where if you hover over something on my webpage it comes up with the item link? |
| 11:23.09 | robotusch | :| |
| 11:23.30 | robotusch | slaps Fisker around with a downloaded car |
| 11:26.17 | Fisker | slaps robotusch around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:26.51 | Sentri | rushes in and crashes into the car and eats the trout |
| 11:28.49 | Jerub | sooo icc10. |
| 11:28.58 | Jerub | i've failed at it repeatedly with pugs now |
| 11:29.01 | Jerub | any tips? |
| 11:30.57 | airtonix | stop playing wow |
| 11:31.17 | airtonix | your liver will thank you |
| 11:35.57 | Kalroth | dont go with pugs |
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| 11:36.20 | Fisker | if you have 3 healers you'll fail anyways |
| 11:36.26 | Jerub | Fisker: serious? |
| 11:36.35 | Jerub | Fisker: do we need 4 or 2? |
| 11:39.06 | Fisker | 2 |
| 11:39.25 | Fisker | Especially on Saurfang you'll be richly punished for taking too many healers |
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| 11:39.52 | Kalroth | uh, on normal mode you can go with 3 healers easily, even with the worst pug |
| 11:39.59 | Kalroth | the rest is fine with 4 healers |
| 11:40.16 | Fisker | die Kalroth |
| 11:40.24 | Fisker | you don't bring 4 healers to a 10-man raid |
| 11:40.59 | Kalroth | you dont wipe in a 10-man normal raid, but obviously Jerub got worse pug luck than you :) |
| 11:41.32 | Fisker | i don't pug 10-man |
| 11:41.34 | Fisker | only 25-man |
| 11:41.55 | Kalroth | well there you go |
| 11:42.27 | Fisker | though to be fair we only got to saurfang in 25-man |
| 11:42.33 | Fisker | wipe at 10% or so :( |
| 11:48.12 | Kaso | we did surfang for the first time last night on 10, we got the achievement for having less than three marks (we had one), does that mean they expect the average run to get more than three marks? because i don't see how healers could handle that |
| 11:50.40 | Kalroth | that depends on how many healers you bring :p |
| 11:52.37 | Kaso | well unless your dps is shithot, you're going to hit enrage with three or four |
| 11:53.10 | Kaso | well, i guess, we did do it with three, but it was a very close but then again we had no bloodlust |
| 11:53.55 | Kaso | but it seems to me as if you'd be failing pretty badly with spreading/add control to get more than 2 marks in the 8min enrage |
| 11:55.57 | Kaso | i guess its just one of those flavour achievements, but i cant imagine many raids being able to not get that achievement and still managing to kill the boss |
| 11:58.28 | Jerub | k. looks like posterous, which is what i'm using to host my blog, doesn't allow you to include arbitary javascript. |
| 11:59.16 | Jerub | also, holy shit you have good luck. |
| 11:59.21 | Jerub | we never got it past boss #1 |
| 11:59.31 | Jerub | hell, we wiped a half dozen times on the rep trash |
| 12:00.06 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Happy Birthday Guillotine!! |
| 12:00.14 | Kaso | if you wiped on the big skeltons that spawn out of the walls, rogues can disarm the alarms that set them off ;p |
| 12:00.40 | Jerub | Kaso: i know that |
| 12:00.48 | Jerub | i had to explain to a rogue what a trap would look like : |
| 12:00.50 | Jerub | :/ |
| 12:02.15 | robotusch | :| |
| 12:02.23 | Kaso | also there's a bit of an exploit you can use on first boss |
| 12:03.00 | Kaso | if you have everyone (or most people) stand inside his red targetting circle you can avoid the fire, then you just have to have your tanks dodge and the whole thing is easier on people who cant move properly |
| 12:03.14 | Kaso | also everyone is i melee range so getting spikes is easy |
| 12:03.24 | Kaso | im sure that'll be fixed some time soon |
| 12:03.51 | Jerub | Kaso: i heard that |
| 12:04.01 | robotusch | considering they're nerfing Marrowgar, I wouldn't exactly bank on it ;) |
| 12:04.22 | Jerub | robotusch: theyre nerfing him? |
| 12:04.23 | Kaso | seems like a bit of a cheesy way of avoiding a big mechanic of the fight though |
| 12:04.37 | robotusch | Melee damage in 10man normal & heroic |
| 12:04.46 | robotusch | though I admit it's a fair deal |
| 12:05.17 | robotusch | saber slash without having both tanks in place after a bonestorm can be somewhat lethal |
| 12:05.46 | Jerub | 'somewhat' |
| 12:05.47 | Jerub | 'entirely' |
| 12:05.54 | robotusch | :D |
| 12:06.01 | Jerub | robotusch: where's this nerf documented. |
| 12:06.03 | robotusch | hey, I lived through it, so can everyone else |
| 12:06.39 | robotusch | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=21723843880&sid=1 |
| 12:06.45 | Jerub | i'm no awesome healer with an awesome raid or anything |
| 12:07.21 | Jerub | oh, hey, did uld10 today. |
| 12:07.33 | robotusch | and I'm no awesome tank, I'm still rocking one of the brewfest stamina trinkets |
| 12:07.42 | robotusch | http://www.wowhead.com/?profile=eu.ravencrest.robodin :( |
| 12:07.43 | Jerub | somehow i managed to do >50% of the raid's damage on the trash before FL and during the FL fight. |
| 12:07.55 | Jerub | .... by exclusively using anti-air rockets against ground targets. |
| 12:08.29 | Jerub | http://quickarmory.com/?n=brandi&r=Dath%27Remar |
| 12:09.03 | Jerub | you did icc10 in tha tgear? |
| 12:09.09 | robotusch | yeh |
| 12:09.31 | Legorol | robotusch: why would the tanks not be in place after a bonestorm though... |
| 12:09.34 | Legorol | if they are not, they suck |
| 12:09.43 | Legorol | i really hope they don't nerf his lash |
| 12:09.43 | Jerub | Legorol: BONESTORM RUN!!$!@$@!$!@ |
| 12:09.48 | Legorol | as i said, they suck |
| 12:09.52 | robotusch | dunno, me and our MT usually had np finding each other :D |
| 12:09.58 | Legorol | the bonestorm is a nicely controllable mechanic if you know how |
| 12:10.21 | Legorol | the boss has a huge hitbox anyway, stay out of the fire and hit it from whereever you fancy, and it's all good |
| 12:10.30 | Jerub | robotusch: can you look at my tanking gear and tell me if I suck or not? |
| 12:10.40 | Legorol | we had no probs having 3 tanks on top of each other on 25 |
| 12:11.20 | robotusch | Jerub, nah, I only know how look at my own gear and do a sadface |
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| 12:11.31 | Jerub | robotusch: heh, good call. |
| 12:11.33 | robotusch | It really is somewhat impressive |
| 12:11.41 | robotusch | Toc25 on every reset since it was launched |
| 12:11.49 | robotusch | and I have yet to gain a single trophy |
| 12:11.54 | Jerub | bawhwahah |
| 12:11.57 | Jerub | i have trophy gear |
| 12:11.59 | Jerub | just 1 piece |
| 12:12.01 | Jerub | but it's mine |
| 12:12.02 | Jerub | all mine |
| 12:12.04 | robotusch | :( |
| 12:12.12 | robotusch | hell |
| 12:12.18 | robotusch | even ran a togc10 |
| 12:12.30 | robotusch | and arrived at Anub with something like 48 tries left |
| 12:12.33 | Jerub | i tried togc10 again today. epic fail. |
| 12:12.41 | robotusch | .. and we still didn't get him down before calling it a night |
| 12:13.20 | robotusch | would have been lol though |
| 12:13.35 | robotusch | getting mad skill on my first togc10 run ;D |
| 12:13.59 | Jerub | i sometimes think maybe i should transfer my main to a non-fail server. |
| 12:14.26 | robotusch | sadly I underestimated how much threat needed to be put on the new adds in p3 :/ |
| 12:15.49 | [Wobin] | I really like T9 on my resto shammy |
| 12:15.57 | [Wobin] | my first complete set =P |
| 12:16.14 | Jerub | i just got 4T9 on my resto druid |
| 12:16.24 | [Wobin] | it gives a ridiculous buffer on chain heroics |
| 12:16.32 | [Wobin] | I hardly ever go below 70% |
| 12:16.46 | [Wobin] | but then if I do =P |
| 12:16.49 | Jerub | heh heroics. |
| 12:16.51 | [Wobin] | It takes forever to mana up =P |
| 12:17.02 | [Wobin] | wtb higher level water |
| 12:17.06 | Jerub | i guess icc5mans aren't a laughing matter. |
| 12:17.16 | [Wobin] | yeah |
| 12:17.18 | Jerub | but i've managed to chain pull through most of them now |
| 12:17.20 | [Wobin] | actually -challenging- |
| 12:17.23 | Jerub | I actually wpied on DTK. |
| 12:18.15 | [Wobin] | I wish I could convince the guildies I play with now to chainpull more =( |
| 12:18.24 | [Wobin] | but I'm just the dps in those groups =\ |
| 12:18.32 | Jerub | [Wobin]: ah, that sucks. |
| 12:18.32 | [Wobin] | cause the pally doesn't dps at all =P |
| 12:18.47 | Jerub | i'm sometimes stuck with ovrly cautious guildie tanks. |
| 12:19.00 | [Wobin] | although I did do an awesome HVH with an avoidance pally tank |
| 12:19.02 | Jerub | but then they let my bear tank and uhhh... heh :) |
| 12:19.09 | [Wobin] | 4 dps and the tank =) |
| 12:19.36 | [Wobin] | I just threw in a heal every now and again |
| 12:20.04 | Kaso | "The trinket Ephemeral Snowflake will now be triggered by all healing spells." they really cant decide what to do with that trinket |
| 12:20.04 | Jerub | yeah, we had a pally healer recently in H VH that decided healing was boring and went ret spec for the last 6 waves and cyg |
| 12:20.11 | Kaso | it just smacks of bad design to m |
| 12:20.15 | Jerub | there were no heals cast during the last fight |
| 12:20.56 | [Wobin] | Kaso, does that count hot ticks? |
| 12:21.06 | Jerub | oooh, did [Better off Dred] and had a wipe at the same time :) |
| 12:21.27 | Kaso | [Wobin]: thats all the changelog says, interpret that how you wish |
| 12:21.33 | [Wobin] | we almost wiped on the slime one in HoS |
| 12:22.42 | [Wobin] | http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/127950d1260856622-funny-strange-random-pics-oauid3.jpg |
| 12:23.17 | Kaso | the simple fix for that trinket would be to make it "up to x mana" per heal then scale the mana return with the healing done |
| 12:29.44 | Fisker | looks like he jizzed in his pants Wobin |
| 12:36.56 | airtonix | the real question is why does he have a picture of a guy with four frisbees framing it |
| 12:36.56 | airtonix | on his wall |
| 12:37.11 | airtonix | i think it explains why he is talking to a cat in the first place |
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| 12:57.00 | cbreak | http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/travelpower/cbde/images/4911/ (ThinkGeek is almost as bad as tvtropes... but at least it's finite) |
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| 13:11.25 | laco | hi |
| 13:11.31 | Cairenn | hi |
| 13:13.25 | laco | i need some additional information about unitdebuff please: UnitDebuff("player", i, 1) - where i is a loop from 1 to 40 - returns me debuffs a player can't remove, like the 15min debuff from the new dungeon finder. any ideas? |
| 13:15.45 | airtonix | any reason why you are not using UnitAura ? |
| 13:15.48 | airtonix | ~api UnitAura |
| 13:15.49 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitAura |
| 13:16.35 | airtonix | do we have a purl cmd for wowprogramming.com too ? |
| 13:16.47 | airtonix | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitAura |
| 13:16.58 | Cairenn | yes, I just don't recall it, ask jnwhiteh |
| 13:17.16 | jnwhiteh | !api |
| 13:17.19 | jnwhiteh | has nothing to do with purl |
| 13:17.22 | jnwhiteh | !api UnitAura |
| 13:17.23 | lua_bot | UnitAura: Returns information about buffs/debuffs on a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitAura) |
| 13:17.37 | airtonix | ok, have you created a man page on wowinterface for the bots here yet ? |
| 13:17.42 | Cairenn | well, not a purl command, but a bot command anyway |
| 13:17.50 | Cairenn | heh, no, not yet, probably should do that |
| 13:18.49 | foxlit | Meh, just stuff it into ~api |
| 13:19.23 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: stuff 'what' into ~api? |
| 13:19.30 | jnwhiteh | the !api command is far superior to ~api |
| 13:20.05 | jnwhiteh | it actually looks at the state of the API and pulls the description.. it's not just a dumb concat. |
| 13:20.09 | laco | which filter should i use for unitaura if i only want the debuffs i am able to remove? |
| 13:20.29 | foxlit | And yet if you look at what people use ~api for, a dumb concat is sufficient. |
| 13:20.46 | jnwhiteh | laco: HARMFUL|RAID |
| 13:21.23 | laco | thanks |
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| 13:31.51 | Fisker | tackles jnwhiteh |
| 13:33.00 | Kalroth | kinky |
| 14:04.14 | Ginji | Bah, silly wine and it's lack of jpeg support |
| 14:04.27 | Ginji | Though it's more of a gentoo issue |
| 14:08.16 | nevcairiel | on a amd64 gentoo? you can manually fix that, if you really care |
| 14:09.20 | nevcairiel | You just need to grep the 32-bit jpeg7 lib from some other random binary distro and put it in the /usr/lib32 folder |
| 14:09.24 | nevcairiel | and unmask the jpeg useflag |
| 14:09.47 | nevcairiel | although they should just add jpeg7 to the 32-bit lib package |
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| 14:18.37 | haste | no, the jpeg package in gentoo is sacrled |
| 14:18.42 | haste | it's there _to_ break stuff |
| 14:18.50 | haste | like... when they bumped it without slotting |
| 14:18.57 | haste | and broke every single app that happened to just look at it |
| 14:19.07 | zenzio | slotting? |
| 14:19.40 | haste | versions that aren't compatible with others are either slotted or patched |
| 14:20.13 | zenzio | technically, what is slotting? |
| 14:20.24 | nevcairiel | allow two versions of the same package to co-exist |
| 14:20.38 | nevcairiel | like libjpeg, which has 6b and 7 |
| 14:20.40 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 14:20.44 | nevcairiel | but they plainly upgraded to 7 |
| 14:20.51 | nevcairiel | killing all link-level deps in the process ;) |
| 14:20.55 | haste | yep |
| 14:21.05 | haste | and killing that lib kills most X apps |
| 14:21.12 | nevcairiel | at least with portage2.2 that wont happen |
| 14:21.18 | haste | oh joy! |
| 14:21.20 | nevcairiel | it doesnt delete libs that are still in use |
| 14:21.24 | haste | only... four months too late :p ? |
| 14:21.47 | haste | how far has portage gotten on the EAPI-3 implementation now? |
| 14:22.09 | nevcairiel | they moved most stuff to EAPI4, 3 only has some install prefix shit |
| 14:22.14 | nevcairiel | to get it out faster |
| 14:23.04 | cbreak | DLL hell? |
| 14:23.58 | haste | nevcairiel: haha |
| 14:24.05 | Ginji | Somewhat of a DLL hell yeah |
| 14:24.14 | haste | I find portage so hilarious :D |
| 14:24.18 | Ginji | People should just link everything statically! |
| 14:24.32 | cbreak | people should just version their libraries |
| 14:24.34 | haste | even worse that the paludis devs have implemented the entire EAPI-3 |
| 14:24.43 | nevcairiel | at least it resolved blocks more intelligently then paludis ever did ;d |
| 14:25.21 | haste | cave resolve to the rescue |
| 14:25.47 | nevcairiel | EAPI-3 is just 3 new variables and support for the xz exentsion in the unpack helper, grats for implementing that :D |
| 14:26.44 | nevcairiel | the variables are mostly dealt with in the eclass'es anyway |
| 14:27.58 | haste | nevcairiel: well, if they moved everything to eapi-4, then paludis already supports it |
| 14:28.04 | haste | and it has since... july? |
| 14:33.50 | nevcairiel | Doesnt do much good now, does it =) |
| 14:33.55 | Ginji | yes yes, portage sucks, paludis aint that much better |
| 14:34.02 | nevcairiel | until portage is ready, no one is going to use it |
| 14:34.03 | Ginji | But there isn't a better package manager out there |
| 14:34.22 | Fisker | haste |
| 14:34.24 | Fisker | i dps you |
| 14:34.28 | nevcairiel | its not portage's fault that it lacks maintainers |
| 14:36.33 | cbreak | anyone here using C++ on windows? |
| 14:36.40 | cbreak | where does std::cerr end up? |
| 14:36.45 | haste | not Shirik or anything like that |
| 14:37.51 | nevcairiel | cbreak: generally, no where. you can get GUI tools to give you their stderr and stdout, though, if you abuse redirection and "more" |
| 14:37.59 | Kalroth | cbreak: they dont |
| 14:38.03 | Kalroth | http://www.williamwilling.com/blog/?p=74 |
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| 14:38.28 | nevcairiel | assuming by "on windows" you mean actually a GUI app |
| 14:38.34 | nevcairiel | since console apps work like everywhere else |
| 14:38.48 | cbreak | yeah, one with windows and menus and blinking things |
| 14:38.55 | Kalroth | haha |
| 14:39.10 | Kalroth | my command prompt got menus and a blinking cursor |
| 14:39.16 | Kalroth | is it gui??? |
| 14:39.19 | airtonix | yes/no/i submit |
| 14:39.46 | Kalroth | cbreak: anyways, if there's a command prompt open, it'll output something, otherwise it'll output nothing |
| 14:41.21 | cbreak | thanks. I'll play around a bit with the shell... the windows shell sucks |
| 14:43.24 | cbreak | I seem to get cout when I do program.exe | more |
| 14:44.19 | nevcairiel | if you add a 2>&1 before that, you get cerr too |
| 14:45.22 | cbreak | windows has that too? |
| 14:45.24 | cbreak | nice |
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| 14:55.59 | Fisker | screw you |
| 14:56.27 | Ginji | Why? |
| 14:58.25 | zenzio | most people have herpes at some time or another, they just don't realise it |
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| 15:15.00 | Kraps | the word i was looking for is elementary school |
| 15:15.22 | zenzio | I was just playing with words |
| 15:15.34 | cog|work | jnwhiteh: ScytheBlade1: before i do something stupid, can you verify that it's ok to apply the OTA update and then use the same root zip that we used originally? |
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| 15:37.11 | Shirik | AHAHAHAH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV6trqd5wuY&feature=player_embedded |
| 15:37.11 | Shirik | That is so win |
| 15:42.54 | amro | Shirik: that's the best talent ever |
| 15:43.46 | Kalroth | I've seen a shaman knock a death knight off the side, only to have the death knight grab the shaman to him and then both fell to their death |
| 15:46.44 | Shirik | wow freenode is still getting ddosed? |
| 15:46.49 | Shirik | this is a persistent attack... |
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| 15:49.00 | ckknight_ | Shirik: what talent is that? |
| 15:49.31 | Shirik | some BS elemental talent that knocks you a mile away |
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| 15:49.34 | olafski | thunderstorm? |
| 15:49.40 | Shirik | I forget what it's called |
| 15:49.53 | Shirik | it's not bad in theory |
| 15:49.59 | Shirik | but so easy to knock people off edges etc, |
| 15:50.45 | Kaso | thunderstorm |
| 15:50.53 | Kaso | also typhoon for druids |
| 15:51.40 | Kaso | blizzard for so long said they'd never do knockbacks |
| 15:51.40 | Kaso | then put loads in |
| 15:51.40 | Kaso | Kalroth: that's awesome |
| 15:52.10 | Lopeppeppy | Huh, if it's a persistent thing, when they knock me off I won't bother coming back in today... |
| 15:52.20 | Kaso | seems to just be farmer.freenode having problems |
| 15:52.51 | Lopeppeppy | Kaso, you apparently see it as your own node. As I see it as my own node. 'cause on my screen, it's not farmer. :) |
| 15:53.00 | Kaso | ah i see >< |
| 15:53.05 | Kaso | that makes sense |
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| 15:55.31 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: It's been going on for a long time now |
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| 15:55.43 | Shirik | 2-3 days at least |
| 15:56.12 | Shirik | For those of you not watching wallops |
| 15:56.15 | Shirik | (10:54:10) !christel! Hi, just to keep you in the loop (although I suspect you've already deducted what I am about to tell you) we're still experiencing heavy ddos directed at a variety of locations where we have infrastructure hosted. Our upstreams are doing their best to curb what they can. Thank you for your patience. |
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| 16:00.01 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I've been offline for most of the last 2-3 days. :) |
| 16:00.13 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy 3 times |
| 16:00.49 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr, baby. *huggle* But be gentle, I'm still a bit on the fragile side. |
| 16:00.59 | Shirik | aw why? |
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| 16:02.23 | Polarina | Oh, hello again, you there, the lost ones. |
| 16:02.33 | Lopeppeppy | will soon own the channel, bwa-ha-ha! |
| 16:03.03 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I had a minor procedure done on Friday, I'm better but still delicate. |
| 16:03.09 | Shirik | aw :( |
| 16:03.13 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:03.18 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:03.23 | zenzio | delicately hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 16:03.25 | Shirik | gives Lopeppeppy a bell to ring whenever she needs something |
| 16:04.00 | Lopeppeppy | I wish, Shirik. Cleaning Rosiekin's kennel is really hard right now. |
| 16:04.18 | Lopeppeppy | I got the boyfriend to do it yesterday, that's lurv right there, cleaning the catbox on your hands and knees. |
| 16:04.31 | Shirik | :) |
| 16:04.56 | Polarina | Is there some class-specific (priest) quest at level 40? If so, where do I find it? |
| 16:05.11 | Lopeppeppy | If it's class-specific, your trainer would have it. |
| 16:05.16 | Shirik | 50 |
| 16:06.05 | Polarina | Ok, thanks. |
| 16:06.19 | cbreak | the sunken temple line |
| 16:06.45 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/WoWScrnShot_121509_175955.jpg <- my rotation addon at bottomcenter |
| 16:07.26 | foxlit | Are those the readycheck symbols? |
| 16:08.54 | mikma | aye |
| 16:09.11 | Legorol | mikma, that looks very cool, how does it work? |
| 16:09.15 | Legorol | and where do i download it from :) |
| 16:09.18 | foxlit | Hm, didn't realize they scaled up well. |
| 16:09.20 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/WoWScrnShot_121509_175931.jpg <- moment before combatlog realizes that the spell has landed |
| 16:09.31 | mikma | foxlit: me neither until i tested xD |
| 16:09.38 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty, mikma! |
| 16:11.17 | Legorol | mikma: what rotation do you have there? as far as i can tell you have a glyphed HB, single-disease rotation |
| 16:11.34 | Legorol | is it possible for the user to customise the rotation? |
| 16:12.17 | mikma | legorol: 'svn co svn://svn.wowinterface.com/mikma-174/L2Play' and entering the rotations is described at the start of the lua |
| 16:12.57 | Legorol | ty |
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| 16:12.57 | cbreak | does it work for Arcane rotations? |
| 16:12.57 | cbreak | ... not that they need any addon to be performed... :) |
| 16:13.04 | mikma | legorol: http://mikma.pastey.net/130263 <- that's what i have in my Hack atm |
| 16:13.19 | mikma | cbreak: well it should work with anything you add in. it should ^^ |
| 16:13.51 | cbreak | use 4 arcane blast, then spam arcane blast until missile barrage procs, then release with arcane missiles |
| 16:14.00 | cbreak | the proc dependency might be problematic |
| 16:14.02 | Legorol | mikma: you might want to change the frost rotations to include Frost Strike |
| 16:14.05 | Legorol | especially the dw dps one |
| 16:14.09 | Legorol | FS > DC by far |
| 16:14.43 | mikma | legorol: i had a display that i used for those :) so i removed them from my rotation and use them when everything is on cd |
| 16:14.54 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/WoWScrnShot_121309_193851.jpg (old version) |
| 16:15.39 | Legorol | mikma: also, i'd recommend a 7+6 rotation (for 13 GCDs) for most of the specs, instead of the current 6+6 |
| 16:16.04 | Legorol | most people have low enough latency that they can fit in 13 GCDs (for 19.5 seconds) in a 20 second rotation |
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| 16:16.12 | Legorol | especially if you have a bit of haste rating anyway from gear |
| 16:16.43 | mikma | legorol: PS . IT . BS . SS . BS . DC . HoW -> SS . BS . SS . BS . DC . DC. (DC) |
| 16:16.47 | mikma | that's what i use atm |
| 16:16.59 | mikma | and i'm not showing the HoW and RP dumps there :) |
| 16:17.46 | Legorol | fairly nuff |
| 16:17.54 | Legorol | you should never have time for that last DC in brackets though |
| 16:17.59 | Legorol | that pushes back your rotation and is not optimal |
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| 16:18.54 | mikma | true that |
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| 16:24.07 | Polarina | I can create Death Knights, cool! But if I delete all my characters that are at level 55 or above, could I still create Death Knights? |
| 16:24.23 | mikma | yes |
| 16:24.43 | Polarina | Nice. :) |
| 16:25.24 | cbreak | Polarina: don't! |
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| 16:26.20 | Polarina | cbreak: Why not? |
| 16:31.04 | cbreak | never throw away things you could use later on |
| 16:31.51 | kdtresh | variety is the spice of life |
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| 16:34.05 | Polarina | cbreak: My level 70 hunter is useless. |
| 16:35.49 | Lopeppeppy | Farming? |
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| 16:36.33 | Polarina | Why? |
| 16:36.52 | kdtresh | are you out of character slots? |
| 16:37.03 | Polarina | No. |
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| 16:37.25 | cog|work | http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/12/15/top-ten-astronomy-pictures-of-2009/ imo |
| 16:39.44 | airtonix | throw them all away they aren;t useful |
| 16:40.57 | Kraps | is it just me or do some of you feel less responsible for a groups well-being when healing instead of tanking? |
| 16:41.20 | nevcairiel | i feel like that in both roles |
| 16:41.40 | Polarina | Kraps: I've never tanked, so I wouldn't know. |
| 16:42.21 | nevcairiel | I sign up as "tank or heal" on my druid, invites are always instant, and always fun to see which role to play now :d |
| 16:42.31 | kdtresh | Kraps: no, but tanking is a lot more involved, in my experience |
| 16:42.36 | airtonix | no because most wow players are dribbling iditos to busy discussing loot and shows on tv rather than paying attention to the situation at hand. so no matter what role i was i was always the one calling people out beofre they made stupid mistakes |
| 16:43.00 | nevcairiel | as dps you can't really influence the group much |
| 16:43.10 | nevcairiel | given a good tank and good heal, you can pretty much win |
| 16:43.30 | airtonix | true, but you can stand back and laugh while they all walk into fire and die |
| 16:43.31 | nevcairiel | short of some situations where enough dps is crucial |
| 16:43.52 | Kraps | kdtresh: yeah, i think thats what it is |
| 16:44.37 | airtonix | seriously 90% of wow players do what they do in the game not because they conciously put aside some time to think about how they should do it, but rather they do it the way they do it simply because they are lemmings |
| 16:45.08 | airtonix | so if you are the next person to suggest a different tactic then their world is turned upside down |
| 16:45.31 | durcyn | it's almost like wow is similar to The Real World (tm) in that way, eh |
| 16:45.33 | airtonix | "BUT BUT BUT <mouth frothing> this ISN'T the way WE do it !!!" |
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| 16:46.33 | airtonix | OMG THERE IS NO START BUTTON!!! WOE IS ME HOW WILL I STOP MY COMPUTER!! |
| 16:46.55 | durcyn | okay, now you're just being silly, take a valium |
| 16:47.39 | Kraps | "lol cleave wastes rage, use devastate" |
| 16:48.13 | Kraps | and i believed him |
| 16:48.30 | olafski | why would you delete a character when you still have character slots available |
| 16:48.35 | Kraps | for a short time |
| 16:53.48 | Kraps | any of you seen surrogates? |
| 16:55.20 | Kraps | the whole thing could have been avoided if they would have instituted medical checks on people who wanted one |
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| 17:26.50 | Kraps | halp, i'm nodding off at my desk |
| 17:26.52 | cog|work | NO U! |
| 17:27.20 | cog|work | Kraps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsCXZczTQXo |
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| 22:10.06 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Happy Birthday Guillotine!! |
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| 22:19.03 | Adys | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OfficialGmailBlog/~3/hTcWUOfdKzk/more-russian-gmail-videos.html |
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| 22:28.29 | cbreak | "We are currently experiencing heavy DDoS against several locations at which some of our servers are hosted. The attack is ongoing and cause a lot of disruption, both to users of the network and unfortunately to projects/companies/individuals whose infrastructure is hosted at the same locations as us. Our sponsors and our sponsorsâ upstreams are working hard to try curb the attacks as best they can." |
| 22:28.30 | cbreak | lame. |
| 22:28.57 | kdtresh | freenode? |
| 22:29.54 | haste | yes, hours ago |
| 22:31.35 | cbreak | seems to be still in progress |
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| 22:33.07 | Shirik | lol wtf: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Electronic+Arts&diff=331892582&oldid=331892434 |
| 22:33.13 | Shirik | cbreak == slow |
| 22:33.25 | Shirik | also you see that word "whose" in that paragraph? |
| 22:33.29 | Shirik | That's my word! |
| 22:33.33 | Shirik | I wrote it! |
| 22:33.50 | Shirik | (They had a typo I told them to fix :P) |
| 22:33.55 | alestane | Shirik: COngratulations on your "whose." |
| 22:33.59 | Shirik | cheers |
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| 22:34.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i suppose you want a pulitzer or something for that? |
| 22:38.40 | cog|work | ~lart gear manager for not letting me pick ammo |
| 22:38.40 | purl | overclocks gear manager until gear manager burns out for not letting me pick ammo |
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| 22:42.34 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane: Want? no |
| 22:42.35 | Shirik | I demand |
| 22:43.16 | Osagasu | Oh lovely. |
| 22:43.19 | Osagasu | My interface breaks when I disable Cartographer |
| 22:43.20 | Osagasu | This game likes to throw my curveballs |
| 22:43.23 | Osagasu | **me |
| 22:44.02 | kdtresh | and there goes kubrick again |
| 22:44.02 | Sixen | o_o |
| 22:44.02 | Sixen | That was painful |
| 22:44.59 | NeoTron | it's a lot less painful |
| 22:44.59 | NeoTron | as in there is nno pain |
| 22:44.59 | NeoTron | if you disable joins and parts and stuff |
| 22:44.59 | sylvanaar | if you get a forum ban dont they send you an email? |
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| 22:53.56 | AbsolutRayne | O_o |
| 22:54.40 | Osagasu | sighs |
| 22:54.44 | Osagasu | I really don't get this |
| 22:54.59 | Shirik | kdtresh: You have no way of knowing who it is :) |
| 22:55.05 | Osagasu | All my other characters work, but when I disable cartographer my mage won't log in |
| 22:55.21 | Osagasu | Reset all my settings, no change |
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| 22:56.53 | Arrowmaster | Osagasu: you cant login with cartographer disabled? |
| 22:57.27 | Arrowmaster | kdtresh: Shirik is right, freenode masks the server names in the netsplit quit messages to always say the server you are connected to and irc.freenode.net |
| 22:57.39 | kdtresh | i see |
| 22:57.53 | Osagasu | Nope, it finishes loading but it won't leave the load screen |
| 22:58.00 | Osagasu | Its almost like it gives up halfway |
| 22:58.02 | Arrowmaster | they really should just use net.* split.* like other servers |
| 22:58.38 | Arrowmaster | Osagasu: random idea but might be something with the layout-cache.txt or other layout files for the character |
| 22:58.51 | Shirik | I don't understand the reason for masking it |
| 22:58.57 | Shirik | it's not hard to tell what dropped |
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| 22:59.48 | Arrowmaster | if two hubs split, this way you cant identify which servers are the hubs |
| 23:00.07 | Shirik | hm? |
| 23:00.13 | kdtresh | which would allow you to start a DDoS attack against them or something? :P |
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| 23:00.19 | Osagasu | Well, I completely removed my WTF to test if it was the variables |
| 23:00.22 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 23:00.22 | Shirik | ah I guess |
| 23:00.22 | Shirik | I see |
| 23:00.25 | Osagasu | with no luck |
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| 23:01.59 | cog|work | what do people have against freenode that it gets attacked so often? |
| 23:02.24 | Osagasu | Its just large. |
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| 23:02.24 | Arrowmaster | it might not be freenode getting attacked |
| 23:02.44 | kdtresh | like windows? |
| 23:03.08 | Nechckn | They had an announcement earlier today saying that, Arrowmaster but, yeah, could be some provider along the way. |
| 23:03.45 | Osagasu | I don't get this... I don't have any addons on that link into Cartographer, is makes no sense that it would break like this |
| 23:03.50 | Kraps | he looks like timothy mcgee http://wow.gamona.de/media/interviews/exclusive-interview-with-world-of-warcraft-lead-designer-tom-chilton/ |
| 23:04.07 | Arrowmaster | i know one network i use had an incident years ago where one of their hubs was being attacked but either a large server or a hub for efnet was being hosted at the same facility so both networks were effected |
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| 23:05.00 | Nechckn | yeah... either way, they need to think of their 'net brethern! |
| 23:05.04 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: you mean the guy from ncis? |
| 23:05.12 | Kraps | yeah |
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| 23:05.30 | Thunder_Child | no it does not |
| 23:05.48 | Kraps | he so does |
| 23:06.09 | Kraps | mcgee was just rounder |
| 23:06.21 | AbsolutRayne | Must...stop...searching...the site! |
| 23:07.36 | Osagasu | Arrowmaster, you were saying the layout files? |
| 23:07.43 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 23:07.56 | A-KO | wow, I was actually asked to DPS lol |
| 23:07.57 | Osagasu | This character doesn't have any of those. I completely removed her variables a while back |
| 23:07.59 | Osagasu | Just deleted them |
| 23:08.12 | Osagasu | The interface hasn't loaded to the point of giving her any |
| 23:08.26 | kdtresh | did you step1: reboot? |
| 23:08.56 | Osagasu | Its been 2 days since this started, so yeah |
| 23:09.03 | Osagasu | Sorry, I'm a bit miffed now |
| 23:09.39 | Arrowmaster | so ive got a bestbuy thing for $20 off if i purchase two games $39.99 or higher by saturday, i think im gona get arkhan asylum but i dont know what else to get |
| 23:10.14 | kdtresh | hello kitty island adventure? |
| 23:10.23 | Osagasu | Aaand its x-perl. |
| 23:10.25 | Osagasu | Great |
| 23:10.46 | Osagasu | The one addon that I can't play without |
| 23:11.43 | nicoli_s | dragon age is good Arrowmaster |
| 23:11.43 | kdtresh | x-perl is killing it? |
| 23:11.44 | Osagasu | Yep |
| 23:11.44 | nicoli_s | so is borderlands |
| 23:11.44 | AbsolutRayne | Im sure you could either update ir, or find something better |
| 23:11.44 | Arrowmaster | got both |
| 23:11.44 | AbsolutRayne | it* |
| 23:11.52 | Osagasu | The very first thing I did was update |
| 23:11.53 | Kraps | MW 2 |
| 23:11.54 | Arrowmaster | havent started on dragon age yet but i just beat borderlands yesterday |
| 23:11.56 | Osagasu | What other addons are there like perl? |
| 23:11.57 | kdtresh | i use perl classic |
| 23:11.59 | nicoli_s | dragon age is great |
| 23:11.59 | AbsolutRayne | I use Pitbull 4 |
| 23:12.01 | Arrowmaster | 1000/1000gs and lvl 70 multiplayer in MW2 weeks ago |
| 23:13.48 | Osagasu | I'm just even more confused now |
| 23:14.03 | Osagasu | What does Cartographer have to do with xperl |
| 23:14.49 | Dagmar | Dragon Age isn't great. It's freaking awesome. |
| 23:16.32 | Thunder_Child | dragon age isnt awesome it's trash |
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| 23:19.28 | Osagasu | Both opinions amuse me. |
| 23:19.30 | Nechckn | Trash that tastes like cotton candy! |
| 23:19.36 | Thunder_Child | i think that game would be awesome w/o the party |
| 23:19.37 | Nechckn | you don't need to take anyone =) Might make it hardmode extreme, then, though. |
| 23:19.44 | Thunder_Child | exactly |
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| 23:21.39 | Nechckn | Arrowmaster I imagine that you have Uncharted 2? That was some decent play and interesting story. |
| 23:21.58 | Arrowmaster | i dont, but i havent even played uncharted 1 |
| 23:22.16 | Kivnel | So many games to play |
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| 23:23.06 | Kivnel | I think I'll get Assassin's Creed 1/2, DA:O and Uncharted 1/2 |
| 23:23.07 | Nechckn | oh gosh.. Assassin's Creed 1 is a snooze fest |
| 23:23.07 | Kivnel | hmm really? |
| 23:23.20 | Nechckn | Repetition at its finest |
| 23:23.40 | cbreak | tetris is repetition at it's finest |
| 23:23.41 | nicoli_s | the new one is supposed to be alot better though |
| 23:23.43 | Nechckn | It is cool, neat environment, et cetera but the actual missions are like carbon copies |
| 23:24.05 | Nechckn | Yes! AC2 got so much attention because they supposedly "fixed" it. |
| 23:24.25 | Nechckn | has not played it, yet. So, no good opinion. |
| 23:24.41 | Osagasu | AC1 has a decent enough story |
| 23:24.47 | Osagasu | But the gameplay isn't worth it |
| 23:24.53 | Osagasu | Get a synopsis. |
| 23:25.24 | nicoli_s | the first one was fun for a rental, just the joy of running through the roof tops and shit was greta |
| 23:25.26 | Nechckn | Yeah, I'd recommend that route |
| 23:25.46 | Nechckn | I would not buy it, though |
| 23:26.03 | KarlKFI|work | if you just want to runt hrough rooftops grab InFamous |
| 23:26.05 | Nechckn | (okay, either route, since nicoli_s added that as I was typing) |
| 23:26.07 | KarlKFI|work | run* |
| 23:26.35 | Osagasu | ... |
| 23:26.37 | Osagasu | Okay |
| 23:26.38 | Osagasu | So... |
| 23:26.43 | Osagasu | removed xperl entirely |
| 23:26.47 | Osagasu | Installed Pitbull 4 |
| 23:26.53 | Osagasu | ...Can't log in. |
| 23:26.56 | Osagasu | WTF? |
| 23:27.11 | Zeksie | yeh, coulda told you x-perl wasn't to blame.. better you find that out yourself ;) |
| 23:27.13 | Vonhinten | installing addons doesn't prevent you from logging in |
| 23:27.25 | Osagasu | Well something is causing it |
| 23:27.25 | Arrowmaster | i thought AC1 was ok, it was repetitive but i managed to make it fun |
| 23:27.27 | Zeksie | more likely a compound effect of having 200 megs of addons or something like it ;) |
| 23:27.35 | Osagasu | Because xperl was my only addon that was left when I disabled it |
| 23:27.56 | Osagasu | And was thus able to log in |
| 23:28.18 | Nechckn | Osagasu have you tried with empty AddOns and WTF and then installing one at a time? |
| 23:28.27 | Zeksie | (enjoy) |
| 23:28.49 | Nechckn | Or moving half over at a time until it 'splodes, either way |
| 23:36.12 | A-KO | WHY DID THEY REMOVE THE ABOMS? |
| 23:36.19 | Adys | CUZ |
| 23:36.24 | Jerub | A-KO: to piss you off |
| 23:36.33 | Jerub | or to make it more of horde vs. undead |
| 23:36.37 | A-KO | I require an explanation |
| 23:36.38 | Jerub | either. |
| 23:37.14 | A-KO | weren't the aboms aligned with Sylvanas? I heard they were aligned more with Varimathras/Putress |
| 23:38.06 | cbreak | they have enough of a brain to be aligned with something? |
| 23:39.24 | Jerub | so i have a blog, and i'd like the onhover events to work, but they won't because posterous won't let me embed javascript. |
| 23:39.29 | Jerub | sigh |
| 23:39.52 | cbreak | what do you need it for? |
| 23:39.53 | Adys | simple math question |
| 23:40.59 | Adys | cbreak: im guessing tooltips |
| 23:41.15 | Jerub | the onhover or the maths? |
| 23:41.25 | Jerub | yeah, sorry, wowhead tooltips. |
| 23:41.26 | Adys | both |
| 23:41.37 | Adys | why would you need wowhead tooltips |
| 23:41.43 | cbreak | you can hide and show things with CSS, without java script |
| 23:41.47 | Adys | when you can embed http://db.mmo-champion.com/tt.js ! |
| 23:42.51 | cbreak | loading foreign code? dangerous... :) |
| 23:43.36 | Jerub | Adys: oh, either! |
| 23:43.57 | Jerub | Adys: I just found wowhead's first. |
| 23:44.05 | Adys | Mine's better! |
| 23:44.17 | Adys | wowhead's is.. |
| 23:44.17 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50349 |
| 23:44.21 | Adys | I dunno. |
| 23:44.22 | Jerub | (i looked at how mmo-champ did stuff internally first and saw that it required extra markup, and ignored it) |
| 23:44.26 | Osagasu | I'm just reinstalling Cartogtapher |
| 23:44.43 | KarlKFI|work | hmmm appending link elements to head... |
| 23:44.51 | Adys | Jerub: including tt.js does all the markup |
| 23:44.53 | Jerub | i found wowhead's by going to a site that had tooltips, found the script name, and googled for it to get instructions. |
| 23:45.02 | Jerub | Adys: docs please? |
| 23:45.04 | Osagasu | There's only one place left the information that's breaking it can be stored, and that isn't on my computer |
| 23:45.05 | nicoli_s | KarlKFI|work: thats how they all work |
| 23:45.06 | Adys | sure sec |
| 23:45.16 | Jerub | also, recommendation for a host that is evil enough to let me use it in my blog :) |
| 23:45.18 | KarlKFI|work | No SSL 4 u! |
| 23:45.56 | Adys | Jerub: blogspot? |
| 23:45.58 | cbreak | Jerub: Just use a normal web space provider |
| 23:46.01 | cog|work | HTML5 should have <sarcasm> and <rant> tags imo |
| 23:46.08 | cbreak | and upload your blog software's source code :) |
| 23:46.36 | cbreak | you can use <div> and <span> with appropriate class attributes. |
| 23:46.59 | cog|work | cbreak: those don't convey any semantic meaning though :P |
| 23:47.01 | Adys | Jerub: http://www.mmo-champion.com/suggestions-and-feedback/adding-customizing-tooltips-on-any-website!/ |
| 23:47.41 | Adys | Jerub: Basically you can add just tt.js, which does all the work for you, or include manual markup, which lets you customize them at will |
| 23:48.14 | Jerub | Adys: okay, and specifically what magic does it do? |
| 23:48.29 | Dolby | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50349 fixed btw |
| 23:49.05 | Jerub | does it only look for <a href=> or does it also find [Better Off Dred] style markup and create a coloured link for it? |
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| 23:49.30 | Adys | Jerub: scroll down, some guy made a small script for that |
| 23:49.34 | cbreak | cog|work: just use css. .sarcasm:after { content: "Yes, really..."; } |
| 23:49.55 | Adys | Dolby: Tell whoever wrote the armory parser that he doesnt even parse disenchants! |
| 23:50.00 | Dolby | ok will do |
| 23:51.45 | Jerub | Adys: you know what would be cool. firefox addon that automatically does allthat :P |
| 23:51.53 | cog|work | cbreak: i don't think it needs any particular formatting, it's the idea of having a semantic tag that i'm talking about. Also you're taking me far too seriously :P |
| 23:52.20 | Adys | Jerub: greasemonkey script would do that just fine |
| 23:53.08 | Adys | matter of fact |
| 23:53.15 | Adys | you could just copypaste that code in a greasemonkey script |
| 23:53.24 | Jerub | heh, that's true. |
| 23:53.29 | Jerub | if i had greasemonkey installed. |
| 23:53.37 | Adys | Blame firefox for that |
| 23:53.41 | Dolby | Adys: talked to Malgayne about it, they are on it. :) |
| 23:53.42 | Jerub | I do have ubiquity which is kinda like greasemonkey but vaguely different. |
| 23:53.46 | Adys | i think even IE supports user scripts now |
| 23:53.55 | Adys | no |
| 23:54.03 | Adys | ubiquity is REALLY different :P |
| 23:54.23 | Jerub | I really like ubiquity |
| 23:54.36 | Adys | i was talking to the chrome team the other day, thinking about making an ubiquity addon for chrome |
| 23:55.12 | Adys | but extensions need api access to the omnibar first |
| 23:56.41 | Adys | I really like the way chrome implements its api |
| 23:56.54 | Adys | rather than firefox's retarded "LOL U WANT MY COMPUTER FILES" |
