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| 00:03.55 | cog|work | hides his wabbit |
| 00:04.00 | Lunessa | Spear and Magic Helmet! |
| 00:05.00 | WobWork | Magic Helmet?! |
| 00:05.12 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, Magic helmet |
| 00:06.04 | Keias | how exploitable |
| 00:06.39 | WobWork | PS, thank you Lunessa, now I have that song stuck in my head |
| 00:06.54 | WobWork | Magic Helmet! And I will give you a SAAAAAMMMMPLLLLLEEEE! |
| 00:06.58 | Lunessa | WobWork: Your welcome. |
| 00:07.10 | Lunessa | NORTH WIND BLOW! |
| 00:07.12 | Thunder_Child | oh lol http://notalwaysright.com/more-leftovers-less-landfill/3325 |
| 00:07.57 | WobWork | SOUTH WIND BLOW! |
| 00:09.43 | Lunessa | RISE STORM! |
| 00:10.37 | Lunessa | If I want to destroy productivity in the office, all I have to do is say "Spear and Magic Helmet" in an Elmer Fudd voice and the rest of the day is shot. |
| 00:12.34 | WobWork | You have successfully targetted the age group and general growing up education focus of your workmates |
| 00:12.50 | WobWork | I find it sad that loony tunes and merrie melodies are no longer the standard of cartoons nowadays =( |
| 00:13.04 | WobWork | instead there are some -terrible- cartoons =( |
| 00:16.30 | Lunessa | The 80s and "standards for children's Television" ruined it. |
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| 00:17.35 | JGeorge | After login or reloadui, wich event is fired AFTER the raid/party rosters are initiated? |
| 00:17.48 | Lunessa | The rise of "role based characters" made cartoons horrid. |
| 00:18.59 | theorbtwo | "Role based characters"? |
| 00:20.03 | Lunessa | Look at the cartoons. You always have someone who is the "smart one" the "stylish one" "the stupid one" etc. |
| 00:20.15 | Lopeppeppy | Scooby Doo. |
| 00:20.16 | theorbtwo | Aha. |
| 00:20.48 | Lunessa | Every show from the late 70s well into the late 80s did it. Even the freaking Ninja Turtles. |
| 00:20.56 | theorbtwo | I don't think that's a huge problem, but possibly that's because I grew up with it, to a degree. |
| 00:21.24 | theorbtwo | It's the big push toward "what are we teaching these kids" that I think ruined it to a much larger degree. |
| 00:21.27 | Lunessa | You missed out on funny and slapstick for funny and slapstick's sake. No one trying to mold you or provide positive examples. |
| 00:21.39 | Lunessa | It the same goddamned movement. |
| 00:22.17 | theorbtwo | Lunessa: Oh, I didn't miss out on it completely; I caught plenty of old ones, and they are damned funny. |
| 00:22.24 | Thrae | I remember growing up with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and wondering why Shredder became such a pussy and Krang's slave. (of course back then, I was still using 'lame') |
| 00:22.50 | theorbtwo | I don't think that Pinky and the Brain is neccessarly worse for having characters that weren't all the same. |
| 00:22.59 | Lunessa | Then there were all those "moral of the story" bookends on everything. |
| 00:23.16 | Thrae | Pinky and the Brian was usually masterful, at least to a young boy. |
| 00:23.20 | Lunessa | Pinky and the Brain was a break from the tradition. |
| 00:23.30 | Lunessa | or I should say "movement" |
| 00:24.23 | Lunessa | At least you weren't subjected to Teletubbies. |
| 00:25.02 | theorbtwo | Thankfully, Teletubbies came out when I was already well past it's target range. |
| 00:26.01 | theorbtwo | Lunessa: The entire show it was embedded in actively made fun of the requirement to have overt moarlistic preaching all over everything. |
| 00:27.08 | Lunessa | Lunessa: Tiny Toons and all it's components were a reaction and an attempt to recreate what made the originals such masterworks. |
| 00:32.03 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, love ya, bye bye! |
| 00:32.20 | Lopeppeppy | I have one program to curdle your brain... Yo Gabba Gabba |
| 00:33.19 | Thunder_Child | there is only one thing that curdles my brain |
| 00:36.37 | WobWork | dislikes kicking off 15min long atomic processes |
| 00:37.04 | Lopeppeppy | No more gargling lysol |
| 00:38.09 | WobWork | Tauren to TAUREN! |
| 00:38.24 | WobWork | I <3 that chinese WoW video =) |
| 00:38.39 | WobWork | I totally want that Taurenformers logo |
| 00:38.54 | Lunessa | So not right: "(+44): He shouted my World of Warcraft name while we were having sex, and he was sober." |
| 00:39.40 | WobWork | this is why you should have names that are difficult to pronounce in real life! |
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| 00:40.54 | WobWork | like my friend, Ioxloxloxloxlox |
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| 00:41.09 | JGeorge | How can I find the name of the player I am trading with? |
| 00:41.59 | JGeorge | Nvm, found it out |
| 00:42.07 | batrick | Anyone know of a Mount/Companion AddOn that works similar to RecipeRadar? |
| 00:42.35 | Lunessa | I think there's one called Collector or something. |
| 00:43.16 | cbreak | "TheCollector"? |
| 00:43.43 | cbreak | Shows you which mounts/pets/titles you don't have yet |
| 00:43.59 | batrick | Lunessa: ty |
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| 00:48.42 | Shirik | hm |
| 00:48.47 | Shirik | got 102 on my test, totally didn't deserve it |
| 00:49.35 | cbreak | is that good or bad? |
| 00:49.50 | theorbtwo | 102% ? |
| 00:50.03 | Lopeppeppy | Are you saying that your prof cheated on the grading? |
| 00:54.18 | Shirik | 102% yes |
| 00:54.28 | Shirik | and yes, I think he skipped a little bit too much |
| 00:54.32 | Shirik | anyway, wtf: |
| 00:54.34 | Shirik | ~wiki Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 |
| 00:55.48 | Shirik | "The parents then tried to change the spelling of the name to A (also pronounced "albin"). Once again, the court refused to approve of the name, citing a prohibition on one-letter naming. " |
| 00:57.10 | Thunder_Child | how the fuck is that pronounced albin? |
| 00:57.19 | Shirik | It was a joke imo |
| 00:57.50 | Shirik | the parents needed some name, and needed a way to pronounce it |
| 00:57.53 | theorbtwo | ...or some sort of strange-minded protest against the concept of names. |
| 00:58.00 | Shirik | so the original name was pronounced Albin, the new "A" name was pronounced Albin |
| 00:58.08 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: you know the alphabet isn't pronounced the same in every country, right? |
| 00:58.09 | Shirik | and his final name was pronounced (and spelled) Albin |
| 00:58.24 | Thunder_Child | Jerub, yes it is! |
| 00:58.25 | Shirik | However, |
| 00:58.33 | Shirik | ~wiki Wolfe+585, Senior |
| 00:58.40 | Shirik | fu |
| 00:58.48 | Shirik | ~wiki Wolfe%2b585, Senior |
| 00:59.03 | Shirik | WAY TO FAIL AT SEMI-URL-ENCODING PURL |
| 00:59.06 | theorbtwo | I think it's more that the parents named their kid Albin, but wanted to feed the government crap, because it shouldn't be any of their business. |
| 00:59.24 | Shirik | Anyway: |
| 00:59.26 | Shirik | Adolph Blaine Charles David Earl Frederick Gerald Hubert Irvin John Kenneth Lloyd Martin Nero Oliver Paul Quincy Randolph Sherman Thomas Uncas Victor William Xerxes Yancy Zeus Wolfe schlegelstein hausenberger dorffvoraltern waren gewissenhaft schaferswessenÂschafewaren wohlgepflege und sorgfaltigkeit beschutzen von angreifen durch ihrraubgierigfeinde welche voraltern zwolftausend jahres vorandieerscheinen wander |
| 01:00.48 | WobWork | http://sale.sitepoint.com/ |
| 01:00.52 | WobWork | that's pretty good |
| 01:01.47 | Shirik | where the hell did they get the number 24 from? |
| 01:02.12 | WobWork | december 24th? |
| 01:02.15 | WobWork | christmas eve? |
| 01:02.27 | WobWork | Advent calendar? |
| 01:02.39 | Shirik | 26 days of advent this year |
| 01:02.40 | Shirik | foo |
| 01:02.46 | Shirik | (not including christmas) |
| 01:03.10 | theorbtwo | I expect this is one of those traditions that varies a fair bit. |
| 01:03.13 | Shirik | bad marketing is bad |
| 01:03.21 | Shirik | uh... it can't vary |
| 01:03.27 | Shirik | it is pretty strict |
| 01:03.27 | theorbtwo | To me, an advent calendar counts until Chrismas. |
| 01:03.31 | theorbtwo | Sure it can. |
| 01:03.32 | Shirik | well |
| 01:03.35 | Shirik | ok yes, that is true |
| 01:03.43 | Shirik | but still that's 27 days |
| 01:03.45 | Shirik | not 24 |
| 01:04.06 | WobWork | is it? |
| 01:04.21 | Shirik | Nov 29 to christmas |
| 01:04.23 | theorbtwo | While lots of people, from various different cultures, give gifts sometime around december, the details vary quite a lot. |
| 01:04.35 | Jerub | christmas traditions, like alphabet pronounciations, vary wildly around the world too |
| 01:04.41 | Shirik | advent is not a tradition |
| 01:04.43 | theorbtwo | Shirik: December 1st until Chrismas. Where did November 29th come from? |
| 01:04.47 | Shirik | it is a religious ceremony |
| 01:05.00 | Shirik | omg -_- |
| 01:05.06 | Shirik | you all are bad christians! |
| 01:05.22 | Shirik | Advent starts on the fourth sunday before christmas |
| 01:05.23 | Shirik | always |
| 01:05.40 | WobWork | pft |
| 01:05.55 | WobWork | if the Christians can abduct and retransform other traditions |
| 01:06.09 | WobWork | we non-christians can also repurpose them for our own =P |
| 01:06.13 | Shirik | nope |
| 01:06.18 | WobWork | yep =P |
| 01:06.22 | Shirik | nope, we rule the world |
| 01:06.24 | WobWork | welcome to SITEPOINT ADVENT |
| 01:06.25 | Shirik | therefore we get to say how it works |
| 01:06.33 | theorbtwo | isn't a bad christian. He's not a christian at all. |
| 01:06.58 | Shirik | though there is something I never understood |
| 01:07.02 | WobWork | Shirik: You're American, I think it's in your code or something |
| 01:07.02 | Shirik | maybe wikipedia can help me |
| 01:07.08 | Shirik | what is the purpose of the pink candle |
| 01:07.16 | theorbtwo | Pink candle? |
| 01:07.26 | ajmitch | Shirik: look up gaudete sunday in wikipedia |
| 01:08.08 | WobWork | Rose is the color for the Third Sunday of Advent, known as Gaudete Sunday from the Latin word "rejoice." |
| 01:08.25 | Shirik | but whyyyyy |
| 01:08.33 | Shirik | ajmitch, I did, and all it says is "cause that's what we said" basically :P |
| 01:08.33 | WobWork | gaudete, unigenite |
| 01:09.02 | ajmitch | Shirik: well yeah, it's been part of the cycle of readings there for centuries :P |
| 01:09.04 | WobWork | Shirik: That appears to be the reason behind a lot of Christian traditions =P |
| 01:09.14 | Shirik | hey I totally agree with you |
| 01:09.19 | WobWork | Or traditions, full stop |
| 01:09.24 | WobWork | cause that's what makes them traditions |
| 01:09.29 | Shirik | I am not a good christian, but I know the religion technically |
| 01:09.35 | Shirik | I may not follow it, but I know the religion |
| 01:09.36 | theorbtwo | Pink is also the traditional color of women. Women are a traditional cause of rejoicing, and also a traditional thing to do while rejoicing. |
| 01:09.42 | WobWork | Logic? What is this religious logic you speak of? |
| 01:09.51 | theorbtwo | Just a bit of free association, but it's a possibility. |
| 01:10.03 | WobWork | theorbtwo: and the candles being phallic? |
| 01:10.42 | theorbtwo | I assume there is always a candle, and the color of the candle always matches the color of the day. |
| 01:10.51 | theorbtwo | Every sunday has a color. |
| 01:10.53 | WobWork | Suit you, sir! |
| 01:10.56 | WobWork | SUIT YOU |
| 01:11.16 | Shirik | ACL2 !>(thm (equal (christianity) T)) |
| 01:11.16 | Shirik | But we reduce the conjecture to T, by primitive type reasoning and |
| 01:11.16 | Shirik | the :type-prescription rule CHRISTIANITY. |
| 01:11.16 | Shirik | Q.E.D. |
| 01:11.17 | Jerub | or a colour |
| 01:11.24 | Shirik | My theorem prover says that christianity is true because it is. |
| 01:11.53 | WobWork | ACL2 !>(thm (equal (atheism) T)) |
| 01:11.59 | Jerub | Shirik: you wouldn't prove religion. |
| 01:13.06 | Shirik | ACL2 !>(thm (equal (athiesm) T)) |
| 01:13.06 | Shirik | By the :executable-counterparts of ATHIESM and EQUAL we reduce the conjecture to |
| 01:13.07 | Shirik | Goal' NIL. |
| 01:13.07 | Shirik | Consequently, the proof has failed. |
| 01:13.59 | WobWork | Shirik: http://www.hcna.us/columns/pink_advent_candle.html |
| 01:14.33 | WobWork | Shirik: I suspect backwork in your 'proof' =P |
| 01:14.40 | Shirik | >> |
| 01:14.51 | Shirik | It had nothing to do with me defining christianity to be T and athiesm to be NIL |
| 01:14.58 | WobWork | Of course not |
| 01:15.04 | WobWork | If T = God |
| 01:15.21 | WobWork | and is thus ineffable |
| 01:15.30 | WobWork | therefore any 'proof' is notwithstanding of reality |
| 01:15.44 | WobWork | unless you're saying you can understand God's ineffableness |
| 01:16.00 | WobWork | which is a paradox in itself |
| 01:17.13 | Torhal | WobWork: Paradoxical paradocies! |
| 01:17.28 | WobWork | paradiocies? =) |
| 01:17.43 | Torhal | Made-up plural form. |
| 01:18.09 | theorbtwo | paradoxes, I'm afraid. |
| 01:18.12 | KarlKFI|work | paradoxi |
| 01:18.25 | theorbtwo | It isn't actually all that interesting a word as such. |
| 01:18.49 | KarlKFI|work | paradoxically |
| 01:19.52 | WobWork | I was trying for para-dioceses |
| 01:26.18 | Kraps | k see, i guess i'm supposed to be upset that my elf bride was killed, but i'm not really |
| 01:26.49 | WobWork | your.. elf bride? |
| 01:26.56 | Kraps | sure |
| 01:26.59 | Kraps | :p |
| 01:27.04 | Kraps | in DA:O |
| 01:27.42 | WobWork | You should romance the dog |
| 01:27.50 | Kraps | what dog? |
| 01:28.04 | WobWork | You didn't get the dog? |
| 01:28.13 | WobWork | oh wait |
| 01:28.15 | Kraps | i'm not even out of the starting area yet |
| 01:28.19 | WobWork | I've never actually started an elf |
| 01:28.24 | WobWork | so I don't know the starter zone |
| 01:28.45 | Kraps | oh |
| 01:28.49 | Kraps | you did a human? |
| 01:28.56 | WobWork | man, every starter elf has their bride die? |
| 01:29.06 | WobWork | that's some terrible elf attrition |
| 01:29.18 | WobWork | yeah, human mage |
| 01:29.20 | Kraps | the city elves at least |
| 01:29.40 | WobWork | You wonder how they breed if the brides are dropping like flies |
| 01:29.56 | Kraps | my cousin's bride doesnt |
| 01:30.07 | Kraps | shes cuter anyway |
| 01:30.22 | Kraps | red hair is awesome |
| 01:30.26 | WobWork | Suits you sir, Suits you |
| 01:30.39 | theorbtwo | She's also, presumably, off limits... |
| 01:31.10 | Kraps | yeah, i dont think you interact with her after the rescue |
| 01:31.43 | Kraps | but then, ive barely played |
| 01:32.55 | Kraps | oh WobWork, are human PC's also dickwads? |
| 01:35.29 | WobWork | Maybe that's an elf thing |
| 01:35.43 | WobWork | you can be as dickwaddish as you want though |
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| 01:37.21 | Kraps | elves = inner city |
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| 01:42.17 | Shirik | love isn't always on time! |
| 01:42.27 | Lopeppeppy | Hold the line |
| 01:42.46 | cog|away | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHCu28bfxSI |
| 01:44.47 | Shirik | lol wtf cogwheel |
| 01:44.57 | WobWork | >< |
| 01:47.50 | Lopeppeppy | When the going gets tough, someone hold my rodent! |
| 01:47.56 | Shirik | o.o |
| 01:48.18 | cogwheel | lols |
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| 01:57.41 | Lopeppeppy | Minsc? |
| 02:12.09 | WobWork | <3 Minsc |
| 02:14.46 | Lopeppeppy | He kicks ass. |
| 02:14.53 | Lopeppeppy | Butt kicking for goodness. |
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| 02:22.47 | Dewin | Go for the eyes, Boo, go for the eyes! |
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| 02:43.50 | cogwheel | You can read my neutra face |
| 02:47.56 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: are we there yet? are we there yet? are we there yet? are we there yet? |
| 02:48.12 | kd3 | nah. we're getting closer though |
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| 03:29.01 | cogwheel | RAWR |
| 03:29.07 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 03:29.18 | cogwheel | ~huggle Gryphon |
| 03:29.26 | cogwheel | huggles Gryphon |
| 03:29.30 | Gryphon | huggles cogwheel |
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| 03:39.28 | DWSR | getting cock blocked on ToGC progression because of people being scrubs and dying to fire = frustration. |
| 03:43.35 | Jerub | DWSR: disc priest? |
| 03:47.09 | DWSR | lol, no, I'm a warlock |
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| 03:57.36 | Jerub | DWSR: no, i mean, get one. |
| 03:57.40 | Jerub | and make him levitate everyone |
| 03:58.33 | DWSR | lol, GL has specifically denied that |
| 03:58.51 | Jerub | DWSR: wtf? |
| 03:58.53 | Jerub | DWSR: what a cock. |
| 03:58.58 | DWSR | Why? |
| 03:59.02 | DWSR | It's a fucking exploit. |
| 03:59.14 | Shirik | !quote PRIVMSG #wowuidev :Pong |
| 03:59.14 | Shiibot | Pong |
| 03:59.14 | batbot | Shirik, privmsg has not said anything with your given pattern. |
| 03:59.38 | Jerub | DWSR: is it? it seems standard practice on my server. i've never done togc without it. |
| 04:00.08 | DWSR | yes |
| 04:00.42 | Dagmar | Just holler "LESS PEW PEW MORE OMG I'M GONNA BURN" until they get it |
| 04:03.13 | Jerub | apparently if you move as soon as the fire is thrown, it won't spawn a fire patch either |
| 04:04.49 | DWSR | Apparently if you're retarded, fire burns. |
| 04:06.19 | WobWork | Welcome to Raiding 101 =) |
| 04:06.35 | WobWork | That's rule 2 |
| 04:07.24 | DWSR | No, that's rule #1. |
| 04:07.40 | Dagmar | "Don't just stand there--MOVE!" |
| 04:08.00 | Dagmar | ...although in this case followed closely on it's heels by "Don't stand in the 'stuff'" |
| 04:13.09 | WobWork | Rule 1 is: "Don't be a tard" |
| 04:13.19 | WobWork | cause rule two follows on with that |
| 04:13.23 | WobWork | "Tards Burn" |
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| 05:14.40 | Shirik | I know it sounds trite; I've seen the light |
| 05:14.54 | Shirik | bye bye, love, I'll catch you later. Gotta let my foot down on my acellerator. |
| 05:15.53 | Thunder_Child | skinny white biys do not good rappers make |
| 05:16.05 | Thunder_Child | boys* |
| 05:16.43 | Shirik | except that's country |
| 05:16.48 | Shirik | and what about eminem? |
| 05:16.55 | Thunder_Child | not so skinny |
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| 05:25.16 | Shirik | yes he is |
| 05:25.18 | Shirik | what you talking about |
| 05:29.43 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, no, no he is not |
| 05:29.56 | Thunder_Child | he is fit, not skinny, skinny implies underweight |
| 05:36.25 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvUMkX2V7EY this guy is good |
| 05:36.39 | Shirik | one of my favorite songs |
| 05:36.55 | ZorbaBeta | wonder if they're gonna relax the per-character macro limit ever. I want twice as many macros that can be twice as long |
| 05:37.49 | Thunder_Child | you have macro limits longer than 254 |
| 05:37.53 | Thunder_Child | or somesuch |
| 05:38.04 | Thunder_Child | err..macro lengths |
| 05:38.07 | cogwheel | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te4zjJEQvqs |
| 05:38.24 | ZorbaBeta | I thought there was some glitch that made it impractical for the built-in macro system |
| 05:40.30 | ZorbaBeta | in any case, I want more macros more than I want more characters ;) |
| 05:44.41 | cogwheel | (there's a better recording of that song at the end of all the Skeptically Speaking episodes I've listened to recently) |
| 05:46.38 | Dagmar | I thought Maul got around the built-in macro limit issue with his own macro manager for Macaroon |
| 05:47.39 | cogwheel | only because he reproduced all action button functionality (at least all that's possible with the secure header system) |
| 05:49.32 | cogwheel | at least that's how they're able to act "naturally" on buttons |
| 05:50.32 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, and I like being able to drag icons from bar to bar |
| 05:50.41 | ZorbaBeta | macaroon, as impressive as it is, doesn't permit that (I presume because it can't) |
| 05:51.19 | Thunder_Child | some people should not be allowed to make music videos |
| 05:51.19 | Shadowed | Macaroon is evil |
| 05:51.24 | Shadowed | I want to smack Maul for his configuration |
| 05:51.40 | ZorbaBeta | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN9UT2zF8c8 this music video is just as awesome as the music it is based on |
| 05:51.50 | cogwheel | flexibility > simplicity for my needs |
| 05:52.19 | Shadowed | I mean it's evil in the "This is evil" not evil "It's evil because it's a flexible UI :p |
| 05:52.29 | Dagmar | I liked it |
| 05:52.34 | cogwheel | Try having a 7x4 grid of stance changing buttons and another 12x4 grid of miscellaneous buttons in any other bar mod ;) |
| 05:52.37 | Dagmar | It let me set up individual pet bars for each pet |
| 05:52.44 | cogwheel | (was easy with CogsBar QQ) |
| 05:52.54 | Dagmar | ...and buttons in the shape of the 18 G-keys on my keyboard |
| 05:52.59 | Shadowed | I would think you could override action buttons and make them into macrotext types thought without messing up Blizzards ActionButton#/etc stuff? |
| 05:53.15 | ZorbaBeta | cogwheel, I do that with pitbull by having a bunch of macros that change based on stance |
| 05:53.16 | cogwheel | wishes the author of CogsBar would do a 3.0 update |
| 05:53.16 | Shadowed | Although I haven't looked too much into Blizzard button system |
| 05:53.17 | ZorbaBeta | it's kind of awful |
| 05:53.38 | cogwheel | ZorbaBeta: yeah. i was doing something like that with the standard blizzard bars. Awful indeed |
| 05:54.22 | ZorbaBeta | I wish Blizzard would add a few hooks in to allow Macaroon to duplicate the drag-and-drop functionality |
| 05:55.10 | Dagmar | I do however worry that it's eatin' mah frames |
| 05:55.12 | Iriel | What's missing that you can't add with secure handlers? |
| 05:55.21 | cogwheel | so does he... He was a pretty big contributer to my suggestions thread |
| 05:55.40 | ZorbaBeta | iriel, I think you just can't associate buttons to the cursor |
| 05:55.46 | cogwheel | which I'd link to if SOMEONE hadn't wiped all my threads >< |
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| 05:55.54 | Dagmar | Can't quite shake the feeling that having 100+ buttons (even if only a few are visible at any one time) is making the client cross |
| 05:55.54 | ZorbaBeta | you can't create your own macro system then rig it up so you can drop buttons on each other. something like that. |
| 05:56.08 | Shadowed | You can do drag and drop, you just can't make them act like action buttons, last I looked at least |
| 05:56.26 | ZorbaBeta | mmm, maybe that's the issue |
| 05:56.38 | Dagmar | Yeah the vehicle bars gave him fits |
| 05:56.40 | Shadowed | and by act like action buttons, I mean make them use the standard blizzard UI |
| 05:56.40 | ZorbaBeta | (I looked into it in early 3.1 last, it's been a while) |
| 05:56.45 | Shadowed | Vehicles make everyone cry |
| 05:57.18 | Dagmar | Yeah I wanna go _back_ to using macaroon, but I wound up redoing all my buttons about six times in one month because of that mess |
| 05:57.22 | Iriel | Indeed. |
| 05:57.24 | Dagmar | I am a little burnt out on that |
| 05:57.49 | Shadowed | The new secure handlers system makes vehicles a little less insane to deal with at least |
| 05:57.54 | Shadowed | well, "new" |
| 05:58.10 | Dagmar | I'd set up Macaroon, something with teh vehicle ui would break, I'd go to Bartender and set that up... then they'd change osmething and I'd get to repeat the process for whatever reason |
| 05:58.29 | Dagmar | I'm mainly using Bartender because nothing's recently broken it and it mostly is doing what I want |
| 05:59.53 | cogwheel | since my bars are right where the default vehicle bar wants to pop up, I just let it and don't even bother configuring Macaroon |
| 06:00.05 | Shirik | Iriel: ping |
| 06:00.20 | Shirik | Remember I told you about the 22 million line proof that I got before I ran out of memory last night? |
| 06:00.31 | Iriel | yes |
| 06:00.33 | Shirik | Today I presented it, and the professor told me why :) |
| 06:00.37 | Shirik | it's a pretty silly reason |
| 06:01.05 | Shirik | ACL2 has almost no knowledge about quantifiers like "There exists a t such that..." in logic yet. That's something that's in active development. |
| 06:01.16 | Shirik | So basically it was just bouncing around like crazy, because it doesn't know how to prove it |
| 06:01.32 | Iriel | heh, my 'nipped out for coffee' theory wasn't far off then |
| 06:01.52 | Shirik | Funny though, we did so much better than everyone else |
| 06:02.09 | Shirik | there were some groups that couldn't even get their functions in (because ACL2 refuses to accept functions that could potentially infinitely recurse) |
| 06:02.20 | Shirik | And that's just their fault for having sucky functions |
| 06:02.46 | Shirik | so I win imo ^_^ |
| 06:21.09 | Iriel | sleepy time -- another early morning tomorrow.. 8-( |
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| 06:59.15 | DWSR | If I have Living Flame and the Platinum Disks of Swiftness, can I use both at the same time in a macro? |
| 07:00.19 | Jerub | DWSR: yes. |
| 07:00.24 | DWSR | /use 13 /use 14? |
| 07:00.31 | Jerub | i believe so, yes. |
| 07:00.35 | Jerub | I do that with my tanking trinkets. |
| 07:00.43 | DWSR | No, you can't. |
| 07:00.56 | DWSR | The one trinket sets off a 20 second cooldown for the other. |
| 07:01.09 | Jerub | oh good. that way at least one of them will proc. |
| 07:01.18 | Jerub | (I consider that pratically desired behaviour) |
| 07:01.23 | DWSR | err? |
| 07:01.24 | DWSR | No. |
| 07:01.29 | DWSR | I want both my +sp and my +haste. |
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| 07:04.42 | Jerub | you'll get them, just one after the other. |
| 07:04.56 | Jerub | oh, is this to put on a macro with a different /cast ?or is this your CD button. |
| 07:05.07 | Shirik | DWSR: Consult Dr. T |
| 07:05.12 | Shirik | Mr. T* |
| 07:05.12 | Shirik | gah |
| 07:05.23 | Shirik | having a professor named Dr. T is really messing with my head |
| 07:06.46 | Thunder_Child | spelled 'T'? |
| 07:07.41 | Shirik | well we call him that because his name is impossible to pronounce |
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| 07:47.21 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 07:47.23 | Fisker | i'm disappoint |
| 07:50.03 | Thunder_Child | yes you are |
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| 07:54.44 | Fisker | OH NOS |
| 07:56.08 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=11805970689&sid=1 <-how dare blizzard lie! |
| 07:56.19 | Fisker | they can see the future and we know it! |
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| 08:03.52 | Fisker | ~seen kd3 |
| 08:03.54 | purl | kd3 is currently on #wowhead (3d 8h 14m 48s) #wowuidev (3d 8h 14m 48s) #wowace (3d 8h 14m 48s) #wowwiki (3d 8h 14m 48s). Has said a total of 26 messages. Is idling for 5h 15m 42s, last said: 'nah. we're getting closer though'. |
| 08:10.17 | Shirik | Cide |
| 08:10.21 | Shirik | I got a 102 on my final |
| 08:10.29 | Shirik | which included that proof we were discussing |
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| 08:10.45 | Shirik | (note: for the sake of demonstrating fairness, I was discussing it after I turned it in) |
| 08:11.11 | Shirik | and he said my proof was right |
| 08:11.14 | Shirik | how it was right, I don't know |
| 08:11.15 | Shirik | but it was right |
| 08:11.25 | Shirik | I don't think he looked closely enough |
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| 08:29.37 | Shirik | CIDE |
| 08:29.40 | Shirik | Stop ignoring me T_T |
| 08:29.49 | Shirik | I try to be nice to you |
| 08:30.38 | Shirik | Fisker, you wouldn't ignore me |
| 08:32.30 | cogwheel | <3 Cide |
| 08:32.39 | Shirik | fu cogwheel |
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| 08:40.22 | Fisker | it is cold Shirik |
| 08:40.24 | Fisker | COLD |
| 08:40.27 | Fisker | can you imagine? |
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| 08:41.07 | Shirik | it is cold here too |
| 08:41.09 | Shirik | ~weather kdab |
| 08:41.16 | Shirik | 66.9F |
| 08:41.18 | Shirik | very cold |
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| 08:41.30 | Shirik | will you keep me warm Fisker? |
| 08:41.36 | zenzio | ~weather encn |
| 08:41.47 | zenzio | I win |
| 08:42.38 | Shirik | ~weather fisk |
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| 08:49.14 | Fisker | ~weather 06179 |
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| 08:49.27 | Fisker | FUK YOO |
| 08:49.58 | Fisker | ~weather ekch |
| 08:50.09 | Arrowmaster | ~weather kday |
| 08:50.11 | Fisker | brrrrrr |
| 08:50.23 | Fisker | BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Arrowmaster |
| 08:50.44 | Arrowmaster | yes brrr |
| 08:51.02 | Fisker | poor us |
| 08:52.33 | Thunder_Child | ~weather klax |
| 08:52.49 | Thunder_Child | nice temp here |
| 08:53.04 | zenzio | sounds nice |
| 08:55.54 | Kalroth | ~weather ekyt |
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| 09:01.27 | Shirik | I contraindicate your contraindications |
| 09:05.13 | Thunder_Child | i invalidate your validations |
| 09:07.42 | Shirik | I invalidate your invalidation of my validations |
| 09:08.16 | Kalroth | I fisker your fiskering |
| 09:08.28 | Shirik | (defun iscool(n) (equal 'shirik n)) |
| 09:09.18 | Kalroth | isncool()* |
| 09:09.24 | Thunder_Child | I alternatively restate my origional invalidation bypassing your invalidation |
| 09:09.26 | Shirik | (defthm shirik-implies-coolness (implies (equals a 'shirik) (iscool a))) |
| 09:09.44 | mitch0 | lisp sucks |
| 09:10.19 | Shirik | But we reduce the conjecture to T, by the simple :definition ISCOOL. |
| 09:10.21 | Shirik | Q.E.D. |
| 09:10.21 | Shirik | The storage of SHIRIK-IMPLIES-COOLNESS depends upon the :type-prescription |
| 09:10.21 | Shirik | rule ISCOOL. |
| 09:11.01 | Thunder_Child | i'm starting to recognise people in /2 as people i paly with....is this bad? |
| 09:11.11 | Shirik | depends |
| 09:11.18 | Thunder_Child | play* |
| 09:11.46 | Kalroth | lolol anal [Dagger of Strength] lol |
| 09:12.27 | Hjalte | Kalroth: That joke just keeps on being funny |
| 09:12.31 | Thunder_Child | actaully it was [Back door job] in bed |
| 09:12.55 | Kalroth | Hjalte: it keeps on entertaining /2 for hours, so it must be |
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| 09:15.33 | Shirik | ãã¯ããï¼ |
| 09:15.38 | Shirik | wtf |
| 09:15.51 | Shirik | unicode works here but not in another channel |
| 09:15.52 | Shirik | how is that even possible |
| 09:16.40 | Arrowmaster | because mirc keeps that setting per channel |
| 09:17.11 | Kalroth | shirsux!1 |
| 09:19.00 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Kalroth!n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shirik (ããªãã¯ç§ãããã§ããï¼) |
| 09:19.12 | Shirik | heh, kick messages don't respond to unicode very well either |
| 09:19.31 | cogwheel | looks around for his arial unicode ms |
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| 09:20.45 | Kalroth | :( |
| 09:21.12 | Shirik | my kick messages |
| 09:21.15 | Shirik | it did not work at all :( |
| 09:21.23 | zenzio | cogwheel: you know the laws of IRC demand that you use monospace fonts |
| 09:21.27 | Kalroth | ~failrik |
| 09:21.27 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 09:21.39 | cogwheel | hai Shirik i got a /hug from Cide today!!!11 :3 |
| 09:21.39 | Shirik | ~x jp en ããªãã¯ç§ãããã§ããï¼ |
| 09:21.56 | Shirik | blah |
| 09:22.19 | cogwheel | zenzio: that's why I copied the text into word ;) |
| 09:22.22 | Shirik | which is basically "You like me, don't you?" |
| 09:22.48 | cogwheel | Or as google puts it, "you're my liking?" |
| 09:23.07 | Shirik | lol |
| 09:23.56 | Dagmar | u has a flavr |
| 09:24.29 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
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| 09:24.35 | Fisker | your client sucks |
| 09:24.41 | Fisker | unless it's mirc then you suck |
| 09:24.48 | Torhal | you wouldn't abandon all hope Fisker |
| 09:25.19 | Fisker | you wouldn't drill down to the earth's core |
| 09:27.46 | cogwheel | mirc is the reason i didn't get into irc until i started writing addons |
| 09:28.06 | cogwheel | I was traumatized :'( |
| 09:28.28 | Fisker | cogwheel you wouldn't x an y |
| 09:28.43 | cog|sleep | no i wouldn't because it's "a y" not "an y" |
| 09:28.49 | Shirik | oh snap |
| 09:28.56 | Fisker | i hate you cog|sleep |
| 09:28.57 | Shirik | HE JUST WENT ALL GRAMMARZ UP ON YOUR ASS |
| 09:29.00 | cog|sleep | <3! |
| 09:29.46 | Fisker | i hope you die in your sleep |
| 09:30.02 | cog|sleep | Fisker: buy me dis for xmiss http://www.threadsmith.com/dfndry.srf?base=2662671 |
| 09:30.52 | Shirik | cog|sleep, that site is horrible |
| 09:30.59 | Shirik | I put your image off the side of the hat |
| 09:31.05 | Shirik | and it still shows up as embroidering it in space |
| 09:31.13 | cog|sleep | pfft |
| 09:31.15 | Torhal | you wouldn't grow meat in a laboratory Fisker |
| 09:31.31 | cog|sleep | "Images shown are only a simulation. Actual embroidery may vary." |
| 09:31.37 | cog|sleep | pwnt |
| 09:31.47 | cog|sleep | imo |
| 09:31.53 | Shirik | there's a difference between "vary" and "be completely wrong" |
| 09:32.08 | cog|sleep | there's a very big difference between STFU |
| 09:32.18 | cog|sleep | seelps nao |
| 09:32.22 | Shirik | :( |
| 09:32.24 | Shirik | FU |
| 09:32.35 | cog|sleep | u2 nitey nite <3 |
| 09:32.39 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:33.53 | Thunder_Child | please cog|sleep, safe STFU for those that need/deserve it |
| 09:34.31 | zenzio | "Fixed: Game crashed when launched on a system with more then 8 CPUs/cores. |
| 09:34.31 | zenzio | " -- now that would have to be a pretty hard core gaming computer |
| 09:34.32 | Thunder_Child | save* |
| 09:34.44 | Thunder_Child | not really zenzio |
| 09:34.59 | Thunder_Child | i think you have it backwards |
| 09:35.33 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:35.34 | zenzio | I'm not away of many people running 3+ four-core CPUs |
| 09:35.40 | zenzio | *aware |
| 09:36.04 | Thunder_Child | i think it takes HT into account |
| 09:36.18 | Fisker | i don't |
| 09:36.30 | Thunder_Child | so 1 i7 = 8 cores |
| 09:36.42 | Thunder_Child | 2 physical chips is already breaking it then |
| 09:36.45 | Dagmar | You just know the guy reporting that was going "OMG FIX IT!" |
| 09:37.13 | cog|sleep | Microsoft has a 256 core machine in one of their test labs. Double that 2 more times and I'd have a core for every single thread running on my machine right now |
| 09:37.20 | cog|sleep | o wait... i is sleeps |
| 09:37.22 | cog|sleep | zzzzzzzz |
| 09:37.42 | Shirik | We have a 384 core machine at school |
| 09:37.51 | Shirik | well, it's a beowulf cluster, but same difference |
| 09:37.54 | cog|sleep | running windows? |
| 09:37.55 | cog|sleep | :P |
| 09:38.09 | Dagmar | Running Exchange. ;) |
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| 09:38.11 | cog|sleep | the screen shot of task manager was a testament to their poor ui design :3 |
| 09:38.15 | Fisker | your mom is a beowulf cluster |
| 09:38.21 | Fisker | oh u cog|sleep |
| 09:38.23 | cog|sleep | i beowulfed your mom's cluster |
| 09:38.30 | Torhal | ... |
| 09:38.32 | Dagmar | "Managing Exchange Server Latency Through Cloud Computing" |
| 09:39.11 | zenzio | "Fixed: More 32b overflows caused by 8 GB RAM + large VRAM." -- perhaps ARMA2 will work on my computer again now |
| 09:40.44 | Shirik | zenzio where are you reading this? |
| 09:41.44 | Fisker | ARMA2 patch notes i suppose? |
| 09:41.44 | Fisker | durr |
| 09:41.45 | Fisker | hurr |
| 09:41.47 | Fisker | derp |
| 09:41.54 | Fisker | and another derp |
| 09:41.58 | Shirik | wtf is ARMA2 |
| 09:42.14 | Fisker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARMA_2 |
| 09:42.17 | Fisker | durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 09:43.02 | zenzio | ftp://downloads.bistudio.com/arma2.com/update/beta/ARMA2_Build_60393.log |
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| 09:56.26 | Shirik | ok night |
| 09:57.14 | Thunder_Child | lol's @ Shirik |
| 09:58.41 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:59.00 | Thunder_Child | eats Fisker's trout |
| 10:00.01 | Fisker | holds a funeral |
| 10:00.12 | Thunder_Child | eats Fisker's funeral |
| 10:00.28 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:04.18 | robotusch | hrm |
| 10:04.33 | robotusch | Curse seems to have been infested with keylogger spam :O |
| 10:05.04 | Fisker | your mom |
| 10:05.08 | robotusch | no u |
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| 10:40.37 | Cairenn | robotusch: ? |
| 10:44.30 | Fisker | no u |
| 10:44.46 | Fisker | Some guy is commenting on a lod of addons with keyloggars |
| 10:44.50 | Fisker | lot* |
| 10:44.58 | Cairenn | addons? or forum posts |
| 10:45.06 | Cairenn | that's what I was trying to find out :p |
| 10:45.27 | Fisker | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/visualheal.aspx |
| 10:45.29 | Fisker | first comment |
| 10:45.31 | Arrowmaster | addon comments on curse.com |
| 10:45.35 | Fisker | ir newest |
| 10:45.36 | Arrowmaster | been happening for months |
| 10:45.37 | Fisker | or* |
| 10:45.43 | Cairenn | ahhhh |
| 10:58.37 | zenzelezz | may have been linked already... http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/facebook_mafia_wars.jpg |
| 11:02.03 | jnwhiteh | I get two comments each day on both Clique and TomTom |
| 11:02.06 | jnwhiteh | and they're always the same fucking message |
| 11:02.11 | jnwhiteh | so I have no idea why they're unable to do something about it |
| 11:02.17 | jnwhiteh | I could write a fucking monkey script that gets them |
| 11:02.22 | jnwhiteh | rants. |
| 11:02.24 | ZorbaBeta | funny, you'd think if anyone would get tons of spam it would be me |
| 11:02.28 | ZorbaBeta | and yet it's pretty rare |
| 11:02.39 | jnwhiteh | they change 'which' addon they're linking to |
| 11:02.47 | jnwhiteh | yeah, i'm surprised you don't have any |
| 11:02.51 | jnwhiteh | do you have comments on curse enabled? |
| 11:03.05 | jnwhiteh | curse, not curseforge/wowace =) |
| 11:03.11 | ZorbaBeta | yep, I have almost a thousand pages of curse comments so far |
| 11:03.11 | jnwhiteh | since they're completely different comment systems |
| 11:03.19 | ZorbaBeta | I've had to deal with under two dozen spam messages ever |
| 11:03.28 | jnwhiteh | I get new ones every single day |
| 11:03.31 | jnwhiteh | without fail |
| 11:03.34 | jnwhiteh | I've stopped caring |
| 11:03.37 | jnwhiteh | not my mess to clean up |
| 11:04.08 | ZorbaBeta | 670/700 kalimdor loremaster |
| 11:04.10 | ZorbaBeta | gettin' close |
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| 11:08.46 | Cairenn | I feel bad for whoever has to clean them up (if they ever do?) - I'm so glad we get rid of them as soon as they're reported on WoWI |
| 11:09.06 | Cairenn | it'd be a nightmare otherwise |
| 11:09.37 | haste | depends on how different the messages are tho' |
| 11:10.08 | Cairenn | nod |
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| 11:12.39 | Adys | Cairenn: what was? |
| 11:13.11 | Cairenn | Adys: we were talking about Curse's addon comment pages being full of keylogger spam |
| 11:13.20 | Adys | heh |
| 11:15.34 | Fisker | hastemen |
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| 11:16.19 | Fisker | i'll destroy you haste |
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| 11:22.14 | Fisker | baw jnwhiteh |
| 11:22.36 | haste | Fisker: let me fix a bug in oUF first! |
| 11:22.41 | Fisker | sure |
| 11:23.01 | Fisker | GRIIIIIIIIIIID |
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| 11:29.30 | Cairenn | well, even though it's not our site, Dolby has contacted Google, the ISP and the anti-virus companies telling them about the site/keylogger |
| 11:35.21 | Dolby | no virus companies not contacted. not sure how to go about that. just submitted it to google/firefox RBL and emailed their host which is based in CA |
| 11:35.59 | Dolby | scary more anti vir programs dont pick it up http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/9d5616a506cf9835d378c60d31f8ec2fe8c07a3ed8952e49e46395e9a07cbd75-1259752765 |
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| 11:51.22 | Fisker | lol |
| 11:51.55 | Cide | krka: can I bug you about java? |
| 11:52.21 | Fisker | nice |
| 11:52.22 | Cide | or Shirik |
| 11:52.31 | krka | ~asktoask |
| 11:52.32 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 11:52.33 | Fisker | LOL |
| 11:52.35 | Fisker | LOOOOOOOL |
| 11:52.50 | Cide | nevermind, google figured it out |
| 11:52.57 | krka | google is the smartest |
| 11:52.58 | Cide | maybe not |
| 11:53.13 | Fisker | Registrant Email: mailto:curse@curse.com |
| 11:53.14 | Fisker | hurrdurr? |
| 11:53.17 | Cide | is there a default implementation for an ordered tuple? |
| 11:53.28 | krka | not that i know of |
| 11:53.40 | Fisker | that's pretty funny |
| 11:54.05 | Cide | weak |
| 11:54.17 | krka | write your own Pair<A, B> type :) |
| 11:54.35 | Cide | so I can't use a two-tuple as keys in a hashmap without implementing the tuple class myself |
| 11:54.35 | Cide | yeah, I'll have to |
| 11:54.38 | Fisker | lol retards |
| 11:55.12 | Fisker | http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&rlz=1C1GGLS_daDK345DK345&q=%22Added+Bigwigs,+Buggrabber,+Removed+Tinytop+%26+added+Cowtip+1.0+(me+likes+cowtip+bettah)+Further+on..%22&btnG=S%C3%B8g&meta=&aq=f&oq= <-hurr durr |
| 11:58.24 | Fisker | btw Dolby |
| 11:58.30 | Fisker | they're stealing your sites resources |
| 11:58.38 | Fisker | in b4 goatse referrer detection |
| 11:58.40 | Fisker | do it. |
| 11:59.10 | Cairenn | offs, another one? |
| 11:59.35 | Fisker | or maybe they don't even use it |
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| 12:07.16 | Adys | ~hug Shirik |
| 12:07.17 | purl | ACTION hugs Shirik tightly until Shirik turns slightly blue |
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| 12:09.25 | Dolby | aye, included that to the email to the host Fisker. Although I could care less, haven't used those buttons in 2yrs or so |
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| 12:09.30 | Dolby | but anything to shut them down |
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| 12:12.00 | Dolby | some one with time should de-compile and pick apart the exe and see if they can find where the keylog info is going to |
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| 12:13.52 | Wobin | I have to stop watching NMTB while coding |
| 12:14.05 | Wobin | I don't actually end up coding over the laughing =P |
| 12:14.24 | Elkano | nmtb? |
| 12:15.00 | Wobin | Never Mind The Buzzcocks =) |
| 12:15.32 | Elkano | mkay... |
| 12:16.15 | Wobin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_mind_the_buzzcocks |
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| 12:17.47 | Elkano | oh, only 200+ episodes... |
| 12:18.30 | Elkano | ah, ok, it's the base for popclub... |
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| 12:30.19 | Wobin | Elkano, grab some bits on youtube |
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| 13:28.23 | Sentri | ~seen tuller |
| 13:28.25 | purl | tuller <n=muffins@pool-72-84-246-12.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 14h 21m 5s ago, saying: 'waffles :P'. |
| 13:37.56 | Kalroth | mmm, waffles. |
| 13:38.22 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/twilight.jpg |
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| 13:43.12 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/434491207.gif .. hypnotizing |
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| 14:18.02 | ZorbaBeta | ten more quests for Kalimdor Loremaster |
| 14:19.40 | Lopeppeppy | Neat |
| 14:21.08 | zenzelezz | if only you had some addon to help you with that |
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| 14:28.53 | Jerub | was 15 seconds off an ony10 speedkill today |
| 14:30.00 | Jerub | also, got ilvl 251 pvp pants that didn't have +hit from 25voa |
| 14:30.21 | Jerub | very annoying. they're much better than my other pants, but put me under hit-cap |
| 14:30.25 | zenzelezz | where did it have +hit from then? |
| 14:31.01 | Jerub | zenzelezz: my old pants had +hit, new pants dont'. |
| 14:31.13 | Jerub | so i'm back to eating +hit food and thinking about gemming hit |
| 14:31.16 | zenzelezz | looks around |
| 14:31.23 | zenzelezz | I could swear I left a joke around here somewhere |
| 14:31.39 | Jerub | zenzelezz: oh, right |
| 14:31.43 | Jerub | it's 0:30 here |
| 14:31.47 | Jerub | i think i should go to bed |
| 14:31.47 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 14:31.52 | Jerub | g'night |
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| 14:46.19 | Lopeppeppy | Why, oh why, do they send me their crappiest photos and say, "Oh, just take the lens flare off the glasses and it's good." |
| 14:46.29 | Lopeppeppy | Just don't use a flash that way and it's good, okay? |
| 14:47.37 | cog|sleep | if photoshop can add lens flare to a picture, it should be able to remove it!!!!!1 |
| 14:48.00 | Lopeppeppy | I really seriously wish. :) |
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| 15:06.10 | nevcairiel | i bet this is the first time that i post something cat related, but here goes :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8&feature=player_embedded |
| 15:07.13 | Lopeppeppy | meow! |
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| 15:27.08 | Kraps | hay |
| 15:30.17 | Lopeppeppy | hai |
| 15:30.39 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:30.49 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Fisker. |
| 15:31.49 | Kraps | slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker |
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| 15:38.50 | Fisker | it's so cold here |
| 15:41.29 | Cide | that's because you're alone |
| 15:41.59 | Fisker | no it's because farts don't work well for heating |
| 15:42.21 | Fisker | Pee works fine the first minute or so |
| 15:42.21 | Fisker | but then it gets even worse |
| 15:43.12 | Kraps | oh yeah? my workplace is basically a brick room |
| 15:43.24 | Kraps | its cold now |
| 15:49.31 | theorbtwo | Complain to your employers. |
| 15:53.14 | Lopeppeppy | I hate my crackberry. All of a sudden it will not charge. rawr |
| 15:53.36 | Kraps | nah, i'm training my frost resistance skill |
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| 15:57.28 | mikma | FFFFFUUUUUUUU |
| 15:57.44 | mikma | what's the way of getting rune info from weapon? |
| 16:00.27 | Kraps | mouse over it |
| 16:00.32 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:01.16 | mikma | still hits kraps. |
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| 16:38.30 | Kraps | "uncanny valley" is my favorite new phrase |
| 16:38.55 | zenzelezz | whose valley are you calling uncanny? |
| 16:39.27 | zenzelezz | I never understand why people put up pictures of their programs' "About" dialogs on their screenshot pages |
| 16:39.58 | zenzelezz | "Now that's one hot About dialog, I think I'll use this program instead of the one with the boring one" |
| 16:40.11 | Kraps | ^ |
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| 16:41.48 | cog|work | Kraps: <3 uncanny valley |
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| 16:52.06 | Lopeppeppy | yup, looks like the blackberry is going to be a brick. I may have broken the power port... *sigh* |
| 16:57.22 | cog|work | :'( |
| 16:57.54 | Lopeppeppy | won't charge from USB or car, only charged from 1 of 3 wall chargers the Cingular store tried. |
| 16:58.11 | Lopeppeppy | I have to go home and look for my own wall charger, as well as my previous phone if I need to downgrade. |
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| 16:59.55 | theorbtwo | Lopeppeppy: Did you try it with a different battery? |
| 17:00.05 | theorbtwo | It's a bit of a long shot... |
| 17:00.39 | Lopeppeppy | They did at the store, theorbtwo. |
| 17:01.18 | theorbtwo | nods. |
| 17:01.46 | Lopeppeppy | The boyfriend dropped it on it's soft head on Saturday, I'm betting he frakked it up then. |
| 17:10.47 | Fisker | i made you a fart Lopeppeppy |
| 17:12.09 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, thanks Fisker, but I dont' have a vacuum facility to keep it in, so you can have it instead. |
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| 17:15.39 | Kraps | dude, seriously |
| 17:15.48 | cog|work | hey bebbeh |
| 17:17.06 | Lunessa | o hai, come herez oftenz QT? |
| 17:17.28 | cog|work | only wen i hav lo self asteam |
| 17:17.36 | cog|work | ducks |
| 17:18.04 | cog|work | is in a zing-y mood since last night |
| 17:18.15 | cog|work | oh and FU Shirik|AFK |
| 17:18.42 | Cide | nou |
| 17:20.15 | Lopeppeppy | you guys are weird |
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| 17:21.33 | nevcairiel | Hm didnt a :SetTexure call use to reset the TexCoords? |
| 17:21.48 | Fisker | http://us.media.blizzard.com/wow/anniversary/_images/ilovesc/gallery/full/496.jpg <-oh wow that explains a lot |
| 17:22.13 | mikma | what was the site where you can see most popular talenttrees? |
| 17:22.31 | Kraps | wowpopular.com |
| 17:23.47 | Shadowed | SetTexCoords and SetTexture are weird in general nevcairiel |
| 17:24.16 | Shadowed | but in my experience, it's random and it sometimes resets it and sometimes doesn't |
| 17:24.59 | nevcairiel | fun :P |
| 17:25.05 | nevcairiel | so explicit reset |
| 17:25.10 | nevcairiel | 0 1 0 1 was the default, right? |
| 17:25.22 | nevcairiel | yeah seems right |
| 17:26.14 | Shadowed | yea |
| 17:26.15 | Adys | ~love nevcairiel |
| 17:26.16 | purl | If you love nevcairiel so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 17:26.57 | nevcairiel | what now |
| 17:27.49 | cog|work | "All men are animals... some just make better pets" |
| 17:27.57 | Adys | 3.4GB, uploaded 94.1GB |
| 17:28.12 | Adys | i think i know why the connection is slow |
| 17:28.14 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/12/02/funny-pictures-the-same-ring-to-it/ |
| 17:28.18 | zenzelezz | musical cat is musical |
| 17:28.26 | Adys | nevcairiel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7QIcxoJU4g |
| 17:28.28 | Lopeppeppy | Cog, I approve of that quote. |
| 17:28.33 | nevcairiel | I wonder if google has some sort of push service for Android Phones |
| 17:28.43 | nevcairiel | i get a notice on the phone immediately when a mail arrives |
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| 17:28.54 | nevcairiel | its kinda awesome |
| 17:28.54 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: you were the first in mind when i pasted it =) |
| 17:29.15 | zenzelezz | I would never call peppy a man |
| 17:29.18 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, you really do lurv me. |
| 17:29.20 | cog|work | nevcairiel: yeah, i often get the notification on my phone before google talk tells me |
| 17:29.32 | cog|work | ~lart zenzelezz |
| 17:29.32 | purl | plops zenzelezz into a giant vat of herring |
| 17:29.57 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: for me it's very hit or miss whether the e-mail or the notification comes first. May depend on the network connection or something |
| 17:30.05 | alestane | I have a feeling I showed up a moment too late. |
| 17:30.15 | cog|work | 09:27 < cog|work> "All men are animals... some just make better pets" |
| 17:30.27 | cog|work | 09:28 <+Lopeppeppy> Cog, I approve of that quote. |
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| 17:32.38 | alestane | She would. |
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| 17:43.57 | zenzelezz | haha. A person acting as a robber in a practice on how to handle robberies at a fuel station... runs into the wrong fuel station |
| 17:44.16 | Cairenn | lol, whoops |
| 17:44.18 | zenzelezz | wasn't even a station in the right chain |
| 17:45.08 | Lopeppeppy | very oops |
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| 17:48.28 | Lunessa | cog|work: I am not an animal! I am a human being! I am a man! (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080678/quotes ) |
| 17:49.34 | Lopeppeppy | thinks that sounds like a Planet of the Apes thing. |
| 17:50.04 | Lunessa | Elephant Man. |
| 17:50.14 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. |
| 17:50.19 | Lopeppeppy | Ever seen My Left Foot? |
| 17:51.06 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: ive read an excerpt of the book |
| 17:51.48 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:00.27 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: No, neither the movie nor your actual foot. |
| 18:01.12 | Lopeppeppy | It's pretty good, Lunessa, worth seeing if you find it lying about somewhere. |
| 18:01.52 | Lunessa | Well, if I find a foot, left or otherwise lying about, I expect it to be attached to someone. If it's not, I'm calling HazMat. |
| 18:02.00 | Lopeppeppy | Wise on your part. |
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| 18:08.18 | Cide | stupid java |
| 18:08.23 | cog|work | agreed |
| 18:09.29 | Cide | I have HashMap<A,B> where A has hashCode() and equals() defined, but hashMap.put(new A(3,3), new B()); hashMap.get(new A(3,3)); => null |
| 18:09.33 | Cide | any ideas? |
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| 18:11.50 | cog|work | "have you plugged it in"-esque question incoming... are you sure hashCode and equals are returning the correct, same values? |
| 18:12.02 | Cide | urp |
| 18:12.03 | Cide | ..yep |
| 18:12.19 | cog|work | then fuck if i know. java's stupid |
| 18:12.20 | cog|work | :P |
| 18:12.28 | Cide | agreed |
| 18:12.37 | Cide | A is basically an ordered 2-tuple |
| 18:12.42 | Cide | with x,y members |
| 18:13.11 | Cide | hashCode(): return 256*x+y (x,y are both [0,255]) |
| 18:13.24 | Cide | equals: x==other.x && y==other.y |
| 18:13.59 | cbreak | if you put in new A(), would the type not have to be HashMap<*A,B>? |
| 18:14.36 | Cide | it's java |
| 18:14.44 | Cide | objects are passed by reference by default |
| 18:14.54 | cbreak | Java has templates? |
| 18:14.56 | Cide | s/by default/always/ |
| 18:14.57 | cbreak | interesting |
| 18:15.01 | Cide | yes, "generics" |
| 18:15.28 | Cide | krka: ping |
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| 18:17.06 | cog|work | does java have user-defined value types? (e.g. C# structs) |
| 18:17.18 | nevcairiel | classes :P |
| 18:17.40 | cog|work | classes, which cide just said are passed by reference :P |
| 18:17.53 | Cide | there are primitive types and objects |
| 18:17.56 | nevcairiel | everything in java is a object |
| 18:18.01 | nevcairiel | if its not a primitive type |
| 18:18.27 | Cide | primitive types are passed by value (doesn't matter since they're immutable anyway) |
| 18:18.40 | cog|work | ok that's what i was asking. in C# there are primitive types, classes, and structs. Classes are pass-by-reference and structs are pass-by-value |
| 18:18.50 | cog|work | (all objects, of course) |
| 18:19.15 | nevcairiel | there is nothing like that in java |
| 18:19.25 | KarlKFI|work | sounds like your hashCode and equals are not doing what you think they are |
| 18:19.53 | Cide | KarlKFI|work: they are... |
| 18:20.07 | KarlKFI|work | does it work correctly if you pass the same A to both puts? |
| 18:20.08 | Cide | new A(3, 4).equals(new A(3, 4)) => true |
| 18:20.13 | Cide | let me try |
| 18:20.17 | nevcairiel | are you sure that HashMap actually does that? |
| 18:20.20 | nevcairiel | and not just reference? |
| 18:20.41 | Cide | yes, KarlKFI|work |
| 18:20.42 | nevcairiel | I would've expected it to just go by reference, tbh |
| 18:21.00 | Cide | nevcairiel: it goes by equals() and hashCode() as far as I know |
| 18:21.03 | Cide | anything else would be silly |
| 18:21.08 | nevcairiel | well apparently not! |
| 18:21.09 | KarlKFI|work | that is my understanding |
| 18:21.10 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 18:21.23 | Cide | the default implementation of Object.equals() is reference compare I believe |
| 18:21.51 | KarlKFI|work | that's the first think it checks anyway |
| 18:21.52 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 18:22.02 | Cide | http://pastey.net/129713 |
| 18:23.44 | KarlKFI|work | wrong equals |
| 18:23.52 | Cide | why? |
| 18:23.56 | KarlKFI|work | you need equals(Object) |
| 18:24.08 | Cide | oh, lol |
| 18:24.12 | nevcairiel | yea, always need equals(Object) |
| 18:25.01 | KarlKFI|work | usually I use both. and in equals(Object) check instanceof and then pass to equals(MyClass) |
| 18:25.23 | Lunessa | WIN - http://xkcd.com/670/ |
| 18:25.50 | nevcairiel | xkcd is picking up some classics lately =p |
| 18:27.30 | Cide | and suddenly everything works al ot better |
| 18:27.33 | Cide | thanks KarlKFI|work, nevcairiel |
| 18:27.35 | Cide | a lot| |
| 18:27.37 | Cide | a lot** |
| 18:29.07 | KarlKFI|work | besides, your equals was terribly written anyway :P |
| 18:29.21 | Cide | why? :P |
| 18:29.29 | KarlKFI|work | should always check == first |
| 18:29.39 | Cide | meh |
| 18:29.43 | Cide | leads to the same thing |
| 18:29.49 | nevcairiel | but is faster! |
| 18:29.50 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 18:29.52 | Cide | slightly more performant I suppose |
| 18:30.12 | KarlKFI|work | that slight performance is nice when you're doing it a thousand times a second |
| 18:31.09 | Cide | if I was I wouldn't use java! lololol |
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| 18:31.54 | Cide | speaking of that... is there a better 2d graphics library than awt? it seems awfully slow |
| 18:32.04 | KarlKFI|work | swing |
| 18:32.07 | KarlKFI|work | or awt |
| 18:32.11 | KarlKFI|work | are your choices |
| 18:32.35 | Cide | guess I'll try swing later then, thanks |
| 18:32.48 | Lunessa | And this makes me think of tekkub: http://graphjam.com/2009/12/02/funny-graphs-pick-flavor/ |
| 18:33.50 | Audible | Really wierd nobody took the AddOn Studio further |
| 18:35.33 | Lopeppeppy | why is it weird? |
| 18:38.10 | alestane | No money in that project, and the people who could do it as a hobby don't need it. |
| 18:38.39 | Seerah | not to mention the constant upkeep it would probably need |
| 18:39.00 | Fisker | and the constant bickering from alestane and Seerah on how useless it is |
| 18:39.02 | Fisker | hohoho |
| 18:39.07 | Cide | a better idea would be to do it in wow |
| 18:39.16 | Cide | (yes, I have it copyrighted) |
| 18:39.24 | Seerah | Fisker: I don't think we'd be arguing about that ;) :p |
| 18:39.44 | Cide | (and a almost-not-working implementation) |
| 18:40.08 | Cide | s/ a / a definitely not / |
| 18:40.38 | Fisker | but i got orange juice Cide |
| 18:40.44 | Fisker | what the fuck are you going to do about it? |
| 18:40.45 | Cide | noty |
| 18:40.59 | nevcairiel | a UI designed inside WoW, eh |
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| 18:41.03 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik|AFK] by ChanServ |
| 18:41.09 | nevcairiel | *designer |
| 18:41.25 | Lopeppeppy | Hiya, Shirik. |
| 18:41.30 | Fisker | yo i herd you like? |
| 18:41.37 | Fisker | don't welcome Shirik|AFK |
| 18:41.40 | Fisker | he doesn't deserve it |
| 18:43.15 | Cide | nevcairiel: why not? |
| 18:43.46 | cog|work | Shirik|AFK: you me liking? |
| 18:45.15 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 18:45.16 | Fisker | fu |
| 18:45.25 | cog|work | fu2 |
| 18:47.02 | Fisker | lets make a band cog|work |
| 18:48.59 | cog|work | i'll take the groupies. you can have the groupers. |
| 18:49.09 | Seerah | what's the name? |
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| 18:50.02 | cog|work | how 'bout Mechanical Dane |
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| 18:57.51 | DWSR | Can anyone tell me what Commanding Targets are in Vent? |
| 18:59.17 | Cide | they're targets that can be described as commanding |
| 18:59.53 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, "Commanding Targets are basically virtual channels for sending text based commanding messages that can be spoken using Text-To-Speech and/or displayed using the Video Overlay features of the program." |
| 19:00.09 | Seerah | cog|work: how 'bout Mechanical Danish? |
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| 19:01.26 | Audible | yeah, UI designed inside wow is just the same, you would have problems in exporting it though |
| 19:01.59 | Audible | that being said, i'm looking on how to inject luasql into wow |
| 19:01.59 | nevcairiel | could generate XML or Lua code to copy/paste |
| 19:02.07 | nevcairiel | Audible: you can't |
| 19:02.15 | DWSR | T_C: I don't see how that would be useful at all. Can you give me an example? |
| 19:02.16 | Audible | nevcairiel : enlighten me |
| 19:02.33 | nevcairiel | You simply can't load any modules |
| 19:02.41 | nevcairiel | unless you re-code the whole thing in pure Lua |
| 19:02.48 | nevcairiel | but then its really not useful =P |
| 19:02.53 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, "The primary use is for one or more people to send text oriented commanding messages to a larger group of people of a specific target group." |
| 19:02.56 | nevcairiel | You have no IO functions |
| 19:03.00 | Audible | i didnt say load module, i said inject module |
| 19:03.07 | cog|work | Seerah: that one lost a mental coin toss when i first proposed mine ;) |
| 19:03.16 | nevcairiel | inject sounds illegal :) |
| 19:03.16 | Audible | much like you can inject custom functions |
| 19:03.25 | Audible | nevcairiel : yes, its illegal |
| 19:03.31 | Seerah | cog|work: I keep wanting to say "Illegal Danish" |
| 19:03.40 | DWSR | T_C: I was thinking a 'real life' example |
| 19:03.42 | nevcairiel | then stop talking about it, or Seerah will kick you :) |
| 19:03.55 | DWSR | T_C: And also, how is it better than U2U binds? |
| 19:03.59 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, i have no idea, i'm just copy pasting from the help file |
| 19:04.02 | DWSR | rofl |
| 19:04.12 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, U2U is 1 to 1, this is 1 to many |
| 19:04.15 | Audible | oh, its not something thats destroying any gameplay, botish or anything else, but point taken |
| 19:04.23 | DWSR | T_C: U2U allows multiple targets. |
| 19:04.26 | DWSR | Up to 1000, i think. |
| 19:04.30 | nevcairiel | ToS break is ToS break tbh |
| 19:04.36 | Audible | yep |
| 19:04.44 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, but not as a group though right? |
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| 19:05.27 | Audible | then again, most data mining within wow is illegal |
| 19:05.50 | DWSR | T_C: I can bind U2U to multiple people at the same time. |
| 19:06.09 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, but you have to choose the targets dont you? or can it be to a channel? |
| 19:06.44 | DWSR | T_C: Yeah, you have to bind them before hand. I believe you can also bind to a channel though. |
| 19:07.01 | Ginji | Damn you tape video cameras! |
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| 19:08.29 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+rRf #shiibot] by Shiibot |
| 19:08.29 | Shiibot | Channel locked temporarily. Elapsed time: 17490 minutes |
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| 19:08.51 | Thunder_Child | fail Shiibot, fail |
| 19:08.59 | Fisker | haha |
| 19:09.06 | Fisker | he failed when immunizing batbot probably |
| 19:09.11 | Thunder_Child | oh...it's on #shiibot |
| 19:09.23 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-rRf] by Seerah |
| 19:09.32 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm... http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/nyregion/03marriage.html?_r=1 |
| 19:09.34 | Thunder_Child | i dont think it was this channel |
| 19:09.51 | Fisker | no |
| 19:09.54 | Fisker | +f = forward |
| 19:09.54 | Fisker | durr |
| 19:10.17 | nevcairiel | interesting, no events for over 30s and it just locks it down? |
| 19:10.18 | nevcairiel | wtf :P |
| 19:11.03 | KarlKFI|work | Shiibot: what is your name? |
| 19:11.04 | Seerah | TC: Shiibot announces when he locks wowuidev in the staff channel, so it was here :) |
| 19:11.36 | Thunder_Child | Seerah, but did it say wowuidev? |
| 19:11.41 | KarlKFI|work | Shiibot: what is your favorite color? |
| 19:11.41 | Seerah | yes |
| 19:11.47 | Fisker | *sigh* |
| 19:11.49 | Seerah | (1:08:27 PM) Shiibot: *** I locked #wowuidev for 240 minutes! |
| 19:11.50 | Fisker | l2read Thunder_Child |
| 19:11.51 | nevcairiel | why would it close this channel if some other place was spammed :P |
| 19:12.15 | Thunder_Child | oh..thats the forward to channel |
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| 19:12.20 | Seerah | as Fisker said, Shiibot sends people to that channel |
| 19:12.21 | Seerah | yeah |
| 19:12.25 | Thunder_Child | i dont know this crap Fisker |
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| 19:12.45 | Seerah | TC: I don't really either - I just make stuff up ;) |
| 19:12.59 | Thunder_Child | Seerah, well you are better at it than i am |
| 19:13.06 | KarlKFI|work | yay for making shit up! |
| 19:14.20 | Seerah | huggles KarlKFI|work |
| 19:15.05 | KarlKFI|work | huggles Gryph....Seerah |
| 19:17.04 | Seerah | Gryph? |
| 19:17.24 | alestane | RAWR |
| 19:17.37 | Fisker | why is Blizzard conducting battle.net maintanence on the ptrs? |
| 19:17.37 | alestane | ...wow, he's gone. |
| 19:17.38 | Fisker | do go on |
| 19:19.00 | cog|work | ~seen gryphon |
| 19:19.04 | purl | gryphon <n=gryphon@c-76-104-164-148.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 15h 49m 57s ago, saying: 'ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle.'. |
| 19:19.14 | NightHawkTheSane | :o |
| 19:20.18 | Kraps | i dont get it |
| 19:24.32 | Fisker | l2notfail Kraps |
| 19:24.49 | Aelobin | is the daily hc always the same for both horde and ally? |
| 19:25.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Gryphon (n=gryphon@c-76-104-164-148.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 19:27.08 | NightHawkTheSane | why does ie have to be so stupid? |
| 19:27.24 | cog|work | huggles Gryphon |
| 19:27.24 | Seerah | because it's IE? |
| 19:27.28 | Gryphon | huggles cog|work |
| 19:27.44 | Kraps | RAWR? |
| 19:28.07 | Adys | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1548 |
| 19:29.26 | KarlKFI|work | you have to be serious about RAWR, Kraps |
| 19:29.29 | KarlKFI|work | rawr |
| 19:29.35 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 19:29.53 | Kraps | : |
| 19:30.01 | KarlKFI|work | pats Gryphon on the head. |
| 19:30.04 | Gryphon | pats KarlKFI|work on the head. |
| 19:31.05 | KarlKFI|work | your scripts are endless fun, Gryphon. when did you write them, like 10 yrs ago? |
| 19:31.16 | Fisker | gets Gryphon banned |
| 19:31.18 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+bb %*!*@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk %*!i=lolgourr@*] by Shiibot |
| 19:31.20 | Gryphon | gets Fisker banned |
| 19:31.35 | Seerah | :D |
| 19:31.40 | Seerah | should I let him back in? |
| 19:31.58 | Gryphon | hehe |
| 19:32.14 | Seerah | I haven't heard a yes yet |
| 19:32.19 | KarlKFI|work | lol |
| 19:32.33 | Seerah | goes back to browsing the web |
| 19:32.43 | Gryphon | yes :D |
| 19:33.00 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-bb %*!*@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk %*!i=lolgourr@*] by Seerah |
| 19:33.08 | Gryphon | yeah, just about 10 years ago hehe |
| 19:33.13 | Fisker | couldn't blame me for trying :( |
| 19:34.20 | KarlKFI|work | oh so we have an auto ban hammer finally? |
| 19:34.42 | KarlKFI|work | or is it just a mute |
| 19:34.57 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/266526105 |
| 19:35.21 | Cide | ban equals mute |
| 19:35.37 | Cide | and you can't rejoin |
| 19:35.42 | Cide | but it doesn't kick you if you don't leave |
| 19:38.37 | KarlKFI|work | ah |
| 19:38.47 | Lopeppeppy | I go to my boss with a long To Do list. I come out with a longer one. Aaargh. |
| 19:39.31 | alestane | "What you need is a third project." |
| 19:41.06 | Legorol | Does anyone know off the top of their heads: for a ret pala, how does Reckoning (232 version) compare with Archon Glaives (245)? |
| 19:41.36 | Lunessa | Peppy - This can be construed as a Good Thing(tm) considering whatis looming. |
| 19:42.28 | KarlKFI|work | Archon Glaives a new ptr spell? |
| 19:42.36 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, serious. |
| 19:43.18 | KarlKFI|work | but we can't weild glaives... |
| 19:44.01 | Legorol | it's a polearm |
| 19:44.49 | Legorol | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47737 vs. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47233 |
| 19:45.14 | KarlKFI|work | All player pets now get 100% of their master's resilience. fuck. that. |
| 19:45.46 | Lopeppeppy | huggles Karl. |
| 19:46.39 | KarlKFI|work | oo naxx got nerfed so you can jsut go do the last 2 bosses :) |
| 19:47.54 | Lopeppeppy | As in, there are only 2 now, or you can choose to only do 2? |
| 19:48.11 | KarlKFI|work | you can port to saph without killing the others |
| 19:49.00 | Audible | so 3.3 will be before christmas? |
| 19:49.05 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 19:49.29 | KarlKFI|work | Legorol: the glave looks better ignoring the expertise from swords. |
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| 19:52.21 | KarlKFI|work | damage which reduces the paladin's health below 20% now cancels Divine Sacrifice early. that's cool |
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| 19:54.47 | Kraps | KarlKFI|work: nice |
| 19:54.56 | Kraps | the naxx thing |
| 19:58.46 | Fisker | but why KarlKFI|work |
| 19:58.48 | Fisker | WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY? |
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| 20:00.06 | KarlKFI|work | because snow in Milan is brown after January. |
| 20:01.05 | Fisker | but that didn't answer my question |
| 20:01.33 | Kraps | the moral of the tiger woods story is "dont have a car crash" |
| 20:02.37 | Lunessa | Nah, there's no moral to that story. There's only a litany of bad choices and poor judgment. |
| 20:02.39 | Fisker | i don't get it |
| 20:02.49 | Fisker | So what if he's put his putter in a few holes? |
| 20:02.51 | Fisker | hohohoh |
| 20:03.00 | Fisker | YOU GET IT?! |
| 20:03.12 | Fisker | because a putter is used in the sport he plays |
| 20:03.59 | Kraps | dude, i saw all those jokes in another channel so stfu |
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| 20:04.18 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik|AFK] by ChanServ |
| 20:05.37 | Fisker | it was funnier when i said it Kraps |
| 20:05.37 | Kraps | no |
| 20:05.37 | Shirik | no it wasn't |
| 20:06.24 | Lunessa | The difference between a car and a golf ball? Tiger can drive a golf ball more than 200 yeards. |
| 20:06.29 | zenzelezz | you don't put your clubs in the holes, you try to get the ball in there. That joke fails no matter who tells it |
| 20:06.29 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy |
| 20:06.32 | Lunessa | yards. :P |
| 20:06.32 | Shirik | my throat hurts :( |
| 20:06.33 | Fisker | you weren't there so you can't say Shirik |
| 20:06.40 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: lol |
| 20:07.09 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, drink tons of fluids and get some popsicles. |
| 20:07.25 | Shirik | ack, there's so many cool courses next semester |
| 20:07.54 | Shirik | SE_505_01DB (143146) Model-Based Vrfctn of Software SE_655_01DB (143150) Prfmnce Anlys of Real-Time Sys SE_590_01DB (143149) Automatic Code Generation |
| 20:07.58 | Audible | Shirik : what are you studying? |
| 20:08.01 | Audible | ah |
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| 20:08.26 | Shirik | I really don't want to take 2 glutch courses though |
| 20:09.01 | alestane | Yay, just tanked H VH. |
| 20:09.39 | zenzelezz | grats |
| 20:10.05 | Shirik | Degree Navigator was unable to locate your student account. Please contact your academic advisor. |
| 20:10.05 | Shirik | Please try again or contact your system administrator. |
| 20:10.07 | Shirik | I hate you guys SO MUCH |
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| 20:11.38 | Kraps | alestane: what are you playing? |
| 20:11.55 | alestane | Pally. Hit 80 early this week. |
| 20:12.03 | alestane | That was by way of being my first heroic. |
| 20:12.10 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy I have no popcicles :( |
| 20:12.26 | Kraps | alestane: jealous |
| 20:13.24 | Kraps | I WANT MORE 80S |
| 20:13.31 | Lopeppeppy | shirik, make some? |
| 20:14.06 | Shirik | make? |
| 20:14.12 | alestane | Popsicles. |
| 20:14.17 | Lopeppeppy | ... make. Create. |
| 20:14.22 | Lopeppeppy | ~dictionary make |
| 20:14.23 | purl | see dict make |
| 20:14.28 | Lopeppeppy | ~dict make |
| 20:14.41 | alestane | ...... |
| 20:14.44 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, god, purl... *facepalm* |
| 20:14.53 | alestane | Was that built by programmers, or what? |
| 20:14.54 | Shirik | how am I supposed to make a popcicle |
| 20:15.11 | alestane | Fill ice cube tray with juice, insert toothpicks. |
| 20:16.14 | alestane | Freeze. |
| 20:16.49 | alestane | Other possibilities exist as well. |
| 20:17.58 | Lopeppeppy | Just make little half ice cubes of gatorade or koolaid. Or paper cups with chopsticks in them. |
| 20:18.02 | Lopeppeppy | Something cold to suck on. |
| 20:18.12 | Lopeppeppy | Did you learn nothing of how to cook when you were knee-high? *laugh* |
| 20:18.41 | Lunessa | Shirik's toys were legos and anything his parents didn't prevent him from disassembling/ |
| 20:19.20 | Lopeppeppy | lego sticks work too. |
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| 20:19.59 | KarlKFI|work | obviously you need a popcicle/makefile |
| 20:21.44 | Shirik | no Lopeppeppy :( |
| 20:21.52 | Shirik | and Lunessa's pretty much right |
| 20:22.52 | Fisker | BANISHED TO THE NETHER |
| 20:23.11 | Dagmar | I have a better place. |
| 20:23.16 | Dagmar | Have Tower Records sell him on their website |
| 20:23.31 | Dagmar | He'll never be seen again, and no one will ever be able to give a straight answer as to what's been done with him |
| 20:24.19 | alestane | Are extemporaneous variable declarations an accepted part of C these days? |
| 20:24.31 | Dagmar | Of course |
| 20:24.43 | Dagmar | Apparently it's bad to expect the compiler to figure out even the most trivial things on it's own |
| 20:24.50 | Cide | ~dict recursion |
| 20:24.58 | Shirik | alestane: Extemporaneous variable declaration? |
| 20:25.02 | Cide | ~dictionary recursion |
| 20:25.03 | purl | see dict recursion |
| 20:25.06 | Cide | there we go |
| 20:25.23 | Kraps | ~dict Extemporaneous variable declaration |
| 20:25.33 | alestane | Shirik: Declaring variables somehwere other than at the beginning of a function. |
| 20:25.37 | Dagmar | Oh you've gone and done it now |
| 20:25.38 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:25.40 | Dagmar | You've used a big word |
| 20:25.41 | Shirik | C99+ only |
| 20:25.51 | Shirik | if you want to be truly compatible, you can't |
| 20:26.06 | Cide | stupidest limitation ever |
| 20:26.12 | Shirik | And yes, I have worked with compilers (and still do) that do not support this capability |
| 20:26.19 | Shirik | However, that is limited to a very specific field |
| 20:26.36 | Dagmar | I like languages that let you declare things at the last possible second |
| 20:26.47 | Shirik | Cide: Far easier to make a compiler to do that though |
| 20:26.49 | Lopeppeppy | all compilers should support the popsicle capability. |
| 20:26.55 | Shirik | it knows the stack space it needs up front |
| 20:27.01 | Shirik | otherwise it won't know until the end |
| 20:27.24 | Cide | /shrug |
| 20:29.14 | mikma | http://mikma.pastey.net/129717 :) |
| 20:29.46 | Dagmar | But you know, since it's _already_ looking at the entire block to do that, there's no real reason you shouldn't be able to declare the variable smack in the middle of that block... _when its needed_ |
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| 20:31.31 | Kraps | %ufgfg |
| 20:31.46 | Kraps | %u test %u |
| 20:31.54 | Kraps | ~fail |
| 20:31.55 | purl | somebody said fail was what happens to you when you follow gamespot's game advice. standing in the fire. |
| 20:31.56 | Dagmar | As a "high-level language" there's a certain degree to which it _should_ be able to just "figure it out" on it's own for a few things |
| 20:32.19 | Kraps | gamespot said that? |
| 20:33.58 | NightHawkTheSane | anyone know a good way to test issues with ie6 & javascript? >< |
| 20:34.40 | alestane | I'm hesitant to put 'good' and 'IE6' in the same sentence. |
| 20:35.21 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Yes. Present IE6 users with a modified 404 page (copied from IE6's default replacement template) telling them that their browser sucks and they should upgrade. |
| 20:35.23 | NightHawkTheSane | me too. |
| 20:35.27 | Dagmar | If you don't get any complaints, it works. |
| 20:35.54 | Dagmar | If you have people telling you your site is down, you've isolated the real problem. |
| 20:36.13 | alestane | ...that people are viewing it in IE6? |
| 20:36.21 | Dagmar | ...and that they're illiterate. |
| 20:36.25 | Lopeppeppy | I had a sheeple with IE6 on her laptop yesterday. No fooling. |
| 20:36.53 | Dagmar | Whether or not your javascript works doesn't really matter to them |
| 20:37.07 | Dagmar | They're only really capable of appreciating say, a youtube video of a bear playing with a cat |
| 20:37.08 | NightHawkTheSane | shrugs |
| 20:37.27 | Dagmar | Everything else just blows right over their heads anyway, so no sense in wasting the effort on old browsers |
| 20:37.36 | NightHawkTheSane | if it were just me, i'd just say "you use ie, call me when you get a real browser." |
| 20:38.13 | NightHawkTheSane | but *shrug*, apparently the price of coddling idiots and sacrificing my coding ethics is lower than i thought :P |
| 20:38.43 | Dagmar | This is why I say take the 404 page IE shows people, and just modify the text on it to explain to people that their browser is too old |
| 20:39.02 | Dagmar | The people who are IE6 users because they just started using that machine today and can read will upgrade. |
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| 20:39.22 | Dagmar | The people who are IE6 users because they're mentally disabled will think the internets are down over there. |
| 20:39.25 | Dagmar | Problem solved. |
| 20:39.32 | Dagmar | down or clogged with kittens |
| 20:39.53 | Dagmar | In neither case are they likely to blame _you_ |
| 20:39.56 | Dagmar | :) |
| 20:39.58 | NightHawkTheSane | and what about the people who are on a company machine they cant upgrade and are trying to give us money? |
| 20:40.13 | NightHawkTheSane | thats the real problem. its not just users on a free site. :P |
| 20:40.22 | Dagmar | If they're on a company machine that's still using IE6 to "save money" they can't possibly be able to pay you anything |
| 20:40.32 | Dagmar | ...except maybe twigs and leaves. |
| 20:40.37 | Dagmar | Possibly shiny scraps of metal |
| 20:40.50 | NightHawkTheSane | thats not my decision to make. |
| 20:41.18 | Dagmar | Well, me personally, I let the stupidest among us fall off the truck |
| 20:41.36 | Dagmar | There's no sense in holding back the entire internet just because some people have a learning disability |
| 20:41.43 | Dagmar | There's special classes for those people. |
| 20:42.03 | Dagmar | ...and any legal copy of Windows will update itself to IE7 the moment you let it get a whiff of WU |
| 20:42.27 | Kraps | well, i have probably the crappiest pc in this company, so i need to use ie6 |
| 20:43.05 | Dagmar | Man I've got a 1Ghz laptop with 512Mb of RAM at work, and I don't "need" to use IE6 on it. I use IE7 on it. |
| 20:43.33 | Dagmar | ...when I've been forced to use a particular ticketing app. |
| 20:43.49 | Lunessa | IE6 is da devils work. But it's still got a huge install base. |
| 20:43.56 | Kraps | Dagmar: thats a modern starter pc, mines not modern |
| 20:44.04 | Dagmar | Yes the world is full of the mentally challenged |
| 20:44.09 | Shirik | (15:29:25) (Dagmar) But you know, since it's _already_ looking at the entire block to do that, there's no real reason you shouldn't be able to declare the variable smack in the middle of that block... _when its needed_ |
| 20:44.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: like i said, i'm not in charge, so regardless of my personal feelings, i can't simply tell them to eff off. welcome to the real world of actually having to make money. |
| 20:44.21 | Shirik | no, compilers look at a token at a time, not a block |
| 20:44.50 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: I do work in that world. I expect to not do business with people who can't keep their stuff even minimally updated. |
| 20:45.05 | Dagmar | They don't have any money to give me, but they ARE likely to have viruses and other delightful things |
| 20:45.12 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: You just need to know if it's IE6 for your project, then UserAgent filtering is your friend. |
| 20:45.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: no, you're wrong, and i'm too fucking tired to give a shit and argue, so i'm done. |
| 20:45.48 | NightHawkTheSane | since no one actually answered my fucking question |
| 20:45.49 | Dagmar | No, I'm exactly right. |
| 20:46.05 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.13 | Dagmar | INstall IE8 throw it into compatibility mode for IE6. |
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| 20:46.31 | Dagmar | Or call up Little Timmy and ask him to browse the site |
| 20:46.56 | Dagmar | The shrink-wrap addicts in marketing like to declare that people who pay companies money are still using IE6. |
| 20:47.01 | Dagmar | Reality disagrees with that. |
| 20:47.12 | Dagmar | If they're still using IE6 now, they have serious funding problems. |
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| 20:47.56 | Dagmar | If there was this kind of recalcitrance about using images, we'd all be still using freaking Lynx |
| 20:48.23 | Dagmar | "OMG many of our users are on text-only browsers. We mustn't risk being incompatible with them" |
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| 20:51.04 | alestane | Except that the benefits of using a graphical browser are clear even to computer-challenged users, whereas the benefits of upgrading to IE7 or 8 are less so. |
| 20:51.12 | Dagmar | IE7 came out over three years ago. This means that everyone who still has a valid support contract should have already updated to it. |
| 20:51.32 | Lopeppeppy | Should is such an interesting word. |
| 20:51.36 | Dagmar | Everyone with a valid licence for XP or 2003 _can_ update to 7 |
| 20:51.43 | Lopeppeppy | All fraught with context. |
| 20:52.06 | alestane | _can_ and _has_ show a noticable discrepancy. |
| 20:52.15 | Dagmar | A bunch of hut dwelling savages in china and russia running IE6 isn't going to result in a lot of commerce taking place |
| 20:52.19 | Lunessa | At least I no longer have to tell people our web apps only work in IE. |
| 20:52.52 | alestane | There are machines on my campus that are still running IE6, although I think that's mostly because those machines see very little use, and the IT department may have for gotten they're there. |
| 20:53.02 | Dagmar | It's seven months away from it's forcible EOL |
| 20:53.12 | Lopeppeppy | There are plenty of machines on my campus still on IE6 as well. |
| 20:53.22 | Dagmar | There are none on mine. |
| 20:53.55 | Dagmar | Seven months from now it's going to be REALLY important for people to not be using IE6 |
| 20:54.09 | Dagmar | When Microsoft reaches EOL on that, it means there'll be no more updates for it |
| 20:54.13 | Lunessa | We upgrade machines we support. However, you'd be shocked and dismayed at what wanders in asking for help around here. |
| 20:54.23 | Dagmar | Every little criminal outfit out there is going to have a field day exploiting those machines |
| 20:54.49 | Dagmar | I can only hope one of them will take the initiative and just erase the filesystem on a few million of them |
| 20:55.52 | Dagmar | Failing to keep a network connected machine updated is no less irresponsible than never changing the oil in your car and driving around without ever replacing the running lights or headlights |
| 20:56.08 | Kraps | so you want people to suffer just because they use ie6? |
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| 20:56.25 | Dagmar | If someone gets their car smashed up late at night because they had no working lighting anymore, everyone thinks they're a moron and the first cop will take them right off the road |
| 20:56.35 | Lopeppeppy | Bad analogy |
| 20:56.48 | Lopeppeppy | Their computer, your standards do not apply |
| 20:57.00 | Dagmar | Yet no one seems to think that anyone should ever say anythign bad about the people determinedly hanging onto their crufty old s**t, even tho' _said_ crufty old s**t is causing far more harm than good now |
| 20:57.09 | Dagmar | No, it's a very good analogy. |
| 20:57.15 | Dagmar | It's no different than driving drunk |
| 20:57.21 | Dagmar | It's irresponsible behaviour that endangers others |
| 20:57.33 | Lopeppeppy | Bad analogy. There is no law, and no "endangering" |
| 20:58.00 | alestane | Gonna say, can you substantively claim that someone else's running IE6 materially endangers your computing? |
| 20:58.06 | Dagmar | There's a law against driving drunk BECAUSE you're likely to hit someone, even though a reckless driving charge encompasses the same thing |
| 20:58.25 | Lopeppeppy | Bad analogy is bad. Find one that works, or drop it. |
| 20:58.38 | Dagmar | If your machine is connected to a network, and you fail to keep it properly maintained, you DO endanger other equipment on the network by virtue of you are providing malicious users with more platforms for launching attacks. |
| 20:59.07 | Lopeppeppy | You ahve so many if statements it makes me giggle madly. Your arbitrary standards do not apply to anyone else. |
| 20:59.15 | Dagmar | Whatever |
| 20:59.27 | Dagmar | My stuff DOESN'T get compromised |
| 20:59.50 | Lopeppeppy | I even think that IE6 users should be shot on sight, and I still don't agree with you. So you're coming at this from an odd angle. |
| 21:00.09 | Dagmar | ...and this is the same stuff people who make seven figures a year at IT security will tell you |
| 21:00.39 | Lunessa | I can haz 7 figure salary nao? |
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| 21:02.27 | Lopeppeppy | If they make 7 figures for bad crap, more power to 'em. |
| 21:02.27 | Fisker | i ue ie6 |
| 21:02.33 | Dagmar | RIGHT THERE |
| 21:02.37 | Dagmar | That should convince you people |
| 21:02.42 | Dagmar | points at Fisker |
| 21:02.49 | Fisker | easily trolled |
| 21:03.01 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker is a troll. Using him as an argument is... so shooting your credibility into smaller pieces than it was before. |
| 21:03.11 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: even though you think the analogy is bad, you agree, so whats the deal? |
| 21:03.17 | Fisker | it was my plan all along Lopeppeppy |
| 21:03.39 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, re-read and figure it out. |
| 21:03.51 | Dagmar | Whether or not you view my "credibility" as suspect has nothing to do with the merits of my argument |
| 21:04.06 | Dagmar | If you take other people's word at face value for this stuff, you're just going to have someone fool you eventualyl |
| 21:04.23 | Dagmar | Hence, the laundry list of supporting arguments |
| 21:04.25 | Lopeppeppy | The merits of your argument were dubious, and why should anyone take your word at face value, versus Fiskers? |
| 21:04.52 | Dagmar | Because I can construct a valid chain of argumentation which is provably true |
| 21:05.05 | Lopeppeppy | By making it illegal to run a web browser? |
| 21:05.18 | Dagmar | I never said it should be illegal. |
| 21:05.26 | Lopeppeppy | *shakes head* |
| 21:05.32 | Dagmar | I wouldn't MIND it terribly much, but I don't think that's necessary |
| 21:05.38 | zenzelezz | so we had a failnight in Old Kingdom... apparently I as the tank was out-DPSing our DK and rogue |
| 21:05.45 | Lopeppeppy | If you can't make good analogies why are you surprised that people don't listen to you? |
| 21:05.51 | Dagmar | Learn to read then |
| 21:05.54 | Dagmar | I never said it should be illegal. |
| 21:08.11 | Dagmar | I cited it as a parallel to demonstrate that society has declared this similar set of circumstances to be completely unacceptable, in order to show that treating a similar level of irresponsibility online as if the person were completely unable to be held accountable for it is insanity |
| 21:08.13 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, tell me something logically sound, but irretrievably stupid? |
| 21:08.28 | Fisker | you wouldn't steal a car |
| 21:08.37 | Dagmar | If you can't tell the difference, then there's no point in my continuing further because I'm talking over your head. |
| 21:08.47 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you dear. |
| 21:09.20 | Kraps | <3 logic |
| 21:09.34 | Lopeppeppy | Several people disagreed with the validity of that analogy. You're talking over all of our heads, isn't it nice to live in your little ivory tower all alone? |
| 21:10.14 | Dagmar | Hey at least I'm not going out of my way to insult people |
| 21:10.34 | Fisker | it's a shame it's on the way then :o |
| 21:10.36 | Lopeppeppy | You're just more subtle, I'm more direct. You do it just as much, don't disclaim. |
| 21:10.53 | Dagmar | Whether or not some generic person disagrees or not does not affect the validity of an argument, it's merely a guage of it's popularity |
| 21:11.07 | Dagmar | By by all means, let's make decisions based purely on their popularity |
| 21:11.08 | Kraps | hi-fives Fisker |
| 21:11.19 | Dagmar | I look forward to Brittany Spears being elected president next year |
| 21:11.39 | Lopeppeppy | When people disagree with you, we never do get anywhere, do we? You seem to argue in circles until someone gives up or goes away. |
| 21:11.46 | tem|afk | "What scientific discovery would you most like to see in your lifetime?" |
| 21:11.47 | Dagmar | Because it twelve billion tweens think it's the right thing to do, it must be |
| 21:11.53 | tem|afk | ">Downloadable cars" |
| 21:11.59 | tem|afk | ">> You wouldn't" |
| 21:12.06 | Lopeppeppy | I'd like to see teleporters. Very much. |
| 21:12.06 | tem|afk | *giggle* |
| 21:12.06 | Dagmar | Demonstrate where I made a circular argument. |
| 21:12.17 | Lopeppeppy | So I could go home for the holidays sometimes. |
| 21:12.30 | Dagmar | You like to make up things about what other people meant, don' you? |
| 21:12.35 | Lopeppeppy | Circular argument does not equal arguing in circles, you're reading a bit more than I said. |
| 21:12.46 | Dagmar | OH NOES |
| 21:12.49 | KarlKFI|work | just stop it, you guys. |
| 21:12.55 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, Karl. *hug* |
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| 21:19.13 | foxlit | grr, intel.com |
| 21:19.36 | foxlit | [Not that AMD is really any better -- it's a pain to find recent processor specifications] |
| 21:22.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Things to try: Hot dogs with cream cheese. |
| 21:22.40 | Lopeppeppy | ... I have pity in advance for your arteries? *laugh* But it sounds disturbingly good. |
| 21:25.51 | NightHawkTheSane | honestly, i've done far worse things to my arteries than that. ;) |
| 21:26.18 | NightHawkTheSane | frankly, i'm surprised my arteries, intestines, and liver didn't gang up and revolt on my during thanksgiving. |
| 21:26.35 | NightHawkTheSane | (by the way, pumpkin cheesecake is fucking delicious) |
| 21:26.41 | zenzelezz | my body is 70% Cola |
| 21:28.18 | KarlKFI|work | i had some pumpkin cheesecake at thanksgiving |
| 21:28.31 | KarlKFI|work | i prefer pumpkin pie |
| 21:28.38 | KarlKFI|work | but then i'm not a big cheesecake fan |
| 21:34.06 | Lunessa | Seerah|away: 1337 fail. |
| 21:34.45 | Adys | no foxlit |
| 21:34.48 | Adys | intel is fucking terrible |
| 21:35.10 | Adys | piece of crap makes it impossible to find drivers for windows, for linux, get anything done or what not |
| 21:35.21 | Adys | which is stupid because they got a really nice bunch of employees |
| 21:36.47 | Thunder_Child | neg NightHawkTheSane |
| 21:37.00 | Thunder_Child | pumpkin is awesome and so is cheesecake |
| 21:39.43 | zenzelezz | oh man, it's still going... "[2. Trade] [...]: how much hit does a hunter need?" "[2. Trade] [...]: more than 9000" |
| 21:40.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: and together, they are more awesome. |
| 21:40.14 | Thunder_Child | neg |
| 21:40.17 | NightHawkTheSane | but what's really awesome, is lunch. which i am going to have. |
| 21:40.23 | Thunder_Child | meanders away for lunch |
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| 21:46.39 | DWSR | zenzelezz: Ther over 9000 joke will never die. |
| 21:46.52 | zenzelezz | apparently so |
| 21:48.08 | kenuvis | Hello, i have little problem. I create a Statusbar an Register it to an OnUpdate Event, but when I want to stop it, the UnregisterEvent() command has no effect. |
| 21:50.49 | foxlit | OnUpdate is not an event. |
| 21:50.52 | zenzelezz | pastey your code |
| 21:50.56 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 21:51.09 | Shadowed | If you set it with SetScript, it's a script. If you register it with RegisterEvent it's an event |
| 21:51.17 | Shadowed | scripts are "unregistered" by doing SetScript("OnUpdate", nil) |
| 21:51.35 | Shadowed | (Or in the case of OnUpdate, you can also hide the frame and it will stop) |
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| 21:52.52 | kenuvis | ok, thanks, i will try it |
| 21:53.14 | kenuvis | your right, there is a different between registerevent and setscript ^^ hehe, thanks ! |
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| 21:55.21 | alestane | DWSR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd6izyWr9dA |
| 21:55.51 | DWSR | lol |
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| 22:14.39 | Lunessa | alestane: I think ... I'm going to die from watching that. |
| 22:15.28 | Trela | Lunessa, you would die more if you watched the live action Dragonball Z. |
| 22:15.30 | alestane | In a good way or a bad way? |
| 22:15.33 | Trela | The American one. |
| 22:15.52 | Lunessa | Luckily for me, I watched none of them. |
| 22:17.14 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: thats hilarious |
| 22:17.15 | KarlKFI|work | i want to see that, i hear it's terrible |
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| 22:18.03 | Ginji | No Wai! |
| 22:18.20 | Ginji | how can it be bad? It had zero fillers! |
| 22:18.24 | Lunessa | I love being able to just go grab a laptop off the shelf and say "I'm wiping this and putting Windows 7 on it. Suck it." |
| 22:18.59 | Ginji | To whom do you say that? |
| 22:19.02 | Ginji | Yourself? |
| 22:19.47 | Lunessa | Heh, my boss. He laughed. |
| 22:21.30 | alestane | What exactly does ## mean to the C preprocessor? It looks kind of like "concatenate this parameter without spaces." |
| 22:21.40 | cog|work | yep |
| 22:22.21 | cog|work | http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.2.3/cpp/Concatenation.html |
| 22:34.56 | Ginji | oeh! they fixed klipper! |
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| 22:38.05 | haste | Question! |
| 22:38.19 | haste | Is there any reason to use arbitrary positions on runes? |
| 22:39.55 | Dagmar | If you'd like a visible time representation on when they're coming back? |
| 22:40.06 | NightHawkTheSane | what do you mean by arbitrary? |
| 22:40.41 | haste | NightHawkTheSane: just moving them out of order |
| 22:41.07 | NightHawkTheSane | haste: then the only reason i could think of would be something like what Dagmar said, if you wanted to arrange them by CD |
| 22:43.31 | Dagmar | deathknight.info does that with it's rune display and it's more helpful than I would have at first thought. |
| 22:44.24 | haste | damn you blizzard and DKs then |
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| 22:49.15 | Dagmar | It doesn't arrange them by CD by the way |
| 22:49.31 | Dagmar | It just does a waterfall thing to show you clearly which ones are coming back soonest and in what order |
| 22:50.03 | Dagmar | It's always still 112233, although it does substitute hte ones that became death runes when they do it |
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| 22:50.30 | Dagmar | Frankly I think it could stand more arcade-style flashy-flashy when most of the bar has turned into Death runes |
| 22:50.55 | Dagmar | ...since we ALL love it when most of our runes are basically wildcards. mash-mash-mash-mash-mash |
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| 23:01.04 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:01.38 | Dagmar | gives props to Bibi for beating out "ticklish kitten" on Youtube, even with CNN driving people to it |
| 23:01.50 | Fisker | aha |
| 23:01.54 | Fisker | I'VE DONE IT! |
| 23:02.56 | Lopeppeppy | ... what did you do? |
| 23:02.58 | NeoTron | must say though. kitten clearly is the best |
| 23:03.04 | Lopeppeppy | checks for stains or obvious murders. |
| 23:03.10 | Fisker | you face jaraxxus |
| 23:03.27 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: you wouldn't have to check for obvious murders, you should be checking for subtle ones |
| 23:03.55 | Lopeppeppy | ... this is true. |
| 23:04.20 | Dagmar | It's not good to fail at being the first person to spot the body in the trunk. |
| 23:04.36 | Dagmar | SOme hard questions tend to come from that sort of thing |
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| 23:06.43 | NightHawkTheSane | .... http://www.blameitonthemartians.com/2009/12/difference-between-us-and-india.html |
| 23:09.21 | cog|work | this guy is king of the badasses. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdbRcxVYWSY |
| 23:10.24 | Dagmar | WHat carnival does he work at do you think? |
| 23:11.53 | Shirik | fu cog|work fu |
| 23:12.00 | cog|work | fu 2 <3 |
| 23:13.06 | cog|work | btw his 4th and 5th stories are the best |
| 23:13.15 | cog|work | s/stories/"facts"/ |
| 23:13.55 | Kraps | palehoof BURN http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=21586498494&pageNo=2&sid=1#29 |
| 23:14.24 | zenzelezz | my sixth sense is telling me something may be up with Palehoof |
| 23:18.26 | Fisker | see that's what i hate about mvp's |
| 23:18.35 | Fisker | I troll as well |
| 23:18.42 | Fisker | and i do it ever so subtle as him |
| 23:18.49 | Fisker | but i don't get mvp'd :( |
| 23:21.07 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:21.17 | Shirik | Fisker MVP |
| 23:21.21 | Lopeppeppy | Palehoof has been rawring a very long time. |
| 23:24.11 | Kraps | oh man, i cant enjoy the sims ever again :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMXME2pm83c |
| 23:25.18 | Fisker | seriously all MVP's, or blues for that matter, do is trolling basically |
| 23:27.04 | NightHawkTheSane | your just jealous because they're better at it than you |
| 23:27.16 | Kraps | ^ |
| 23:27.29 | NightHawkTheSane | you're* |
| 23:29.02 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 23:29.42 | Lopeppeppy | I'm *mostly* helpful... |
| 23:29.58 | Lopeppeppy | And when I'm not, Seerah or alestane usually sets me straight right quick. |
| 23:34.30 | industrial | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shN_gnz1uwY&feature=rec-HM-r2 |
| 23:34.31 | industrial | suddenly! teenage nerds! HUNDREDS OF THEM |
| 23:37.23 | Fisker | KA DU SÃ
KOMME NED DERFRA |
| 23:38.21 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwVdIIvXHBU |
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| 23:40.33 | Shirik | Fisker! |
| 23:40.38 | Shirik | KA DU SA KOMME NERD |
| 23:40.58 | Fisker | nej Shirik |
| 23:41.04 | Fisker | det hedder "ned" |
| 23:43.43 | TC-Away | slaps Fisker around a bit with a small Imperial-Class Stardestroyer |
| 23:44.58 | WobWork | what's the framexml error log filename? |
| 23:45.59 | Fisker | framexml.log lol |
| 23:46.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Logs\FrameXML.log |
| 23:47.11 | WobWork | ta |
| 23:47.28 | WobWork | just needed the precise name, since I don't have an install here |
| 23:49.36 | Fisker | hey WobWork |
| 23:49.41 | Fisker | i'm killing you |
| 23:52.39 | WobWork | You're doing a terrible job |
| 23:52.52 | WobWork | Kids today... no work ethics |
| 23:54.14 | Lunessa | is sick of making screen shots of wireless configuration screens. |
| 23:55.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: could be worse. You could be working 6-6 with a 30m break tomorrow, followed by a 2h company dinner, followed by working this weekend |
| 23:55.32 | WobWork | Lunessa: the worst is entering in wifi security guids on a touchscreen keyboard =( |
| 23:55.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: take your screenshots in peace. :) |
| 23:55.42 | WobWork | ScytheBlade1: hm |
| 23:55.49 | WobWork | I have the work Christmas Party tomorrow |
| 23:55.53 | WobWork | (all day) |
| 23:56.05 | Lunessa | SBO - Sucks to be you. At least they're buying you dinner. |
| 23:56.09 | WobWork | we're going to the Balmoral Beach Club for lunch |
| 23:56.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I "normally" work 8h. But, because the boss five levels above me is taking my division out to fancy italian, I get to work 12h. |
| 23:56.55 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, isn't that... um, sweet? |
| 23:57.06 | Dagmar | If they start talking about doing that 12h thing as a "flexitime" option, run, do not walk away |
| 23:57.12 | cog|work | wtf... "ConsolidatedBuffs:Show();" was changed to "if ( not ConsolidatedBuffs:IsShown() ) then ConsolidatedBuffs:Show(); end" ... is calling :Show on an already shown frame really less efficient than running the conditional in Lua?? |
| 23:57.17 | Dagmar | 12h shifts on a regular basis are the devil |
| 23:57.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Many people I work with routinely do 12h shifts |
| 23:57.39 | ScytheBlade1 | My manager puts in 70h workweeks, and others put in more than he does |
| 23:57.44 | ScytheBlade1 | It is too late to run. |
| 23:57.47 | Dagmar | Yeah and they're blowing that "extra off day" sleeping as a result, aren't they? |
| 23:57.55 | cog|work | (re: the diff i just got from kd3) |
| 23:57.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah, they work weekends anyway. ;) |
| 23:59.05 | Dagmar | I'm working a two-week rotating "navy" schedule |
| 23:59.20 | Dagmar | It's made what would nominally be a pretty low-stress job into a life-sucking hell |
| 23:59.42 | Dagmar | I would be pounding my fist on the HR lady's desk about it if I could come up with something better and still manage double-coverage on all shifts |
| 23:59.51 | ScytheBlade1 | This is high stress anyway |
