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| 00:07.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1, cog|work: I'm not actually sure that ConnectBot can send esc and alt separately. Or, rather, esc, alt, and meta are the same (dpad x2), its the same on the g1 actually (where it's pressing the trackball twice) |
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| 00:12.52 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: I have a QH suggestion... |
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| 00:31.25 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: working on the assumption you read your backlog. It would be nice if QH automatically ignored all quests outside of an instance. |
| 00:31.53 | theorbtwo | Jerub: /qh filter zone? |
| 00:31.56 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: i was in an instance with 5 others, and had QH constantly recalculating routes because we all had quests all over the place, but the only quest were were doing together was the daily heroic. |
| 00:32.40 | Jerub | (and it was very valueable for the daily H because someone nearly forgot the quest item from the boss) |
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| 00:33.22 | Jerub | theorbtwo: isn't that for zones? I like cross zone routing. This is more an instance filter i'm after. |
| 00:33.45 | theorbtwo | Jerub: Well, an instance is it's own zone. |
| 00:34.28 | Jerub | i mean, i quest accross icecrown / storms peaks all the time, especially when doing dailies. |
| 00:35.24 | theorbtwo | Jerub: It sounds like you want filter zone to automatically come on when you are in an instance zone -- which is certianly a useful idea. |
| 00:35.28 | Jerub | but popping from argent tourny over to kill a few constructs in storms peaks is a bit difference to poppingout of gundrak to quickly kill some harpies in the barrens. ;) |
| 00:35.34 | Jerub | yeah, exactly. |
| 00:36.12 | Jerub | because QH /is/ useful in instances, and it's part communication stuff is useful in groups, but the combination can be hazardous in terms of CPU usage ;) |
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| 01:10.44 | batrick | shirik, bad type |
| 01:19.22 | kd3 | whee; f12's hit the mirrors |
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| 01:24.07 | ccox | Tauren with mohawks... look funny. |
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| 01:32.19 | Shirik | do PNGs store any kind of metadata like EXIF? |
| 01:32.38 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 01:32.50 | Shirik | any ideas how to read it? |
| 01:32.54 | Shirik | (linux) |
| 01:32.58 | ScytheBlade1 | hex editor! |
| 01:33.01 | NightHawkTheSane | google? |
| 01:33.01 | ScytheBlade1 | cat file.png | xxd | less |
| 01:33.05 | Shirik | .. |
| 01:33.09 | Shirik | any good ideas? |
| 01:33.19 | theorbtwo | exiftool will handle it. |
| 01:33.28 | theorbtwo | (It's really quite a general purpose piece of kit.) |
| 01:34.52 | Shirik | why is exiftool in "media-libs" o.o |
| 01:35.26 | ScytheBlade1 | because pictures are media...? |
| 01:35.32 | Shirik | yes but how is it a lib >< |
| 01:35.40 | ScytheBlade1 | no idea! |
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| 01:36.58 | Shirik | what the hell |
| 01:37.06 | Shirik | Pixel Units : Meters |
| 01:37.10 | Shirik | o.O |
| 01:38.02 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, which os? |
| 01:38.08 | Shirik | linux |
| 01:38.15 | Thunder_Child | nvm then |
| 01:38.21 | Thunder_Child | go to hell |
| 01:38.29 | Thunder_Child | that is all |
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| 01:41.18 | Shirik | :( |
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| 01:42.39 | ScytheBlade1 | 100.00% ./left4dead2\srcds_linux |
| 01:42.40 | ScytheBlade1 | HLDS installation up to date |
| 01:42.43 | ScytheBlade1 | l4d2 inc |
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| 01:49.58 | Shirik | stabulates ScytheBlade1 |
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| 01:55.47 | WobWork | tauren can wear mohawks? |
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| 02:01.49 | Cairenn | huggles Lunessa |
| 02:02.02 | Lunessa | huggles Cairenn. |
| 02:05.32 | Cairenn | =/ |
| 02:06.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: you're one classy stalker to have found me on facebook |
| 02:07.03 | Lunessa | Nah, I has your addy from 'nother pjt. |
| 02:07.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh right |
| 02:09.35 | Lunessa | I didn't share it though, just feed my contacts lists into google and facebook again. |
| 02:10.04 | Lunessa | However, I am a particularly classy stalker, and have the restraining orders to prove it. |
| 02:10.14 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:10.16 | Shirik | you cannot talk |
| 02:10.19 | Shirik | I have stabulated you |
| 02:11.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I stabinated you much earlier |
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| 02:11.49 | Shirik | stabulation is more deadly |
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| 02:12.02 | Lunessa | Fuck you both. I went back in time and stabulated your ancestors. With nukes. :P |
| 02:12.10 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:12.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I see how it is |
| 02:12.17 | ScytheBlade1 | FACEBOOK DENIED IT IS |
| 02:12.25 | Lunessa | DENIED |
| 02:12.31 | Lunessa | *CRY* |
| 02:12.31 | Dagmar | Lunessa: You have it all wrong. |
| 02:12.34 | ScytheBlade1 | (actually, I never ever use facebook. ever.) |
| 02:12.48 | Lunessa | lies. You saw my request. |
| 02:12.51 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 02:12.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I saw the email |
| 02:13.07 | Lunessa | So you used it once. That prevents the use of "ever" |
| 02:13.15 | Shirik | omg I swear I am going to destroy the marketing people at Barbie |
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| 02:13.25 | Shirik | these new commercials are going to make me hang myself |
| 02:13.26 | Dagmar | If you have a time machine and want to really screw things up, you need to arrange it so that three generations back opposite sex siblings all over their family tree get separated at birth, and are later unknowingly reunited to marry and give birth |
| 02:14.10 | Dagmar | ..which nicely reduces your current enemy to a jibbering husk of genetic abnormalities and aberrations. |
| 02:14.27 | ScytheBlade1 | In any case, I'll accept your request the next time I login |
| 02:14.28 | cbreak | it's not that bad. |
| 02:14.33 | Dagmar | Shirik: Well if you want one that bad go out and buy one. You've got your own bank card and everything now |
| 02:14.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Which may or may not be a few months |
| 02:14.38 | cbreak | increased probability for genetic deffects. |
| 02:14.57 | Dagmar | cbreak: This is EXACTLY why I'm not allowed near dangerous technology. |
| 02:15.08 | Lunessa | Dagmar: No, just mate with a female ancestor of theirs... Suddenly I am their ancestor. *Queues up 'I'm My Own Grandpa." |
| 02:15.29 | Dagmar | Lunessa: That would mean you share genetic code with them |
| 02:15.40 | Lunessa | Mine is the SUPERIOR GENOME |
| 02:15.50 | ScytheBlade1 | s/GENOME/GNOME/ |
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| 02:15.53 | Shirik | Dagmar |
| 02:15.55 | Shirik | I do not want one |
| 02:15.57 | cbreak | you can't be your own ancestor |
| 02:16.00 | Shirik | I want these damn songs out omy head |
| 02:16.11 | cbreak | since your own genetic code is not derived from your own genetic code |
| 02:16.30 | Lunessa | cbreak In my spare time, I'm a Sci-Fi writer - you would not believe the things I can do. |
| 02:17.04 | Dagmar | Right, so double phooie on you for being so limited as to not think of pissing in his gene pool properly |
| 02:17.08 | cbreak | shivers in fear of the approaching hordes of Tribbles |
| 02:17.23 | Shirik | Lunessa is powerful |
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| 02:25.56 | WobWork | Lunessa: Why would you want to be related to your enemy? |
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| 02:27.12 | Lunessa | WobWork: It's like the ultimate insult to them - You have seen the enemy, and it is yourself - because he diddled granny! |
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| 02:35.06 | Lunessa | way to kill an conversation, go me. |
| 02:37.39 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 02:40.49 | Shirik | tackles Lunessa |
| 02:41.04 | Lunessa | is tackled. |
| 02:41.16 | Shirik | damn right you are |
| 02:41.22 | Shirik | See ScytheBlade1 you need to be compliant like Lunessa |
| 02:41.39 | Lunessa | is a master of passive agression. |
| 02:42.07 | Shirik | ok guys, we have some... malicious people in here |
| 02:42.14 | ScytheBlade1 | eyes Shirik |
| 02:42.35 | Shirik | Assume that stack based attacks were all of a sudden impossible |
| 02:42.39 | Shirik | just hypothetically speaking |
| 02:42.46 | Lunessa | Shirik: Shibot to the rescue? |
| 02:42.48 | Shirik | the stack is completely separate from return addresses |
| 02:43.09 | Shirik | eh |
| 02:43.13 | Shirik | well "why" is irrelevant |
| 02:43.17 | Shirik | Just basically you cannot execute data |
| 02:43.37 | Shirik | What, then, is the most vulnerable part of code? |
| 02:43.50 | Shirik | Buffer overflows are right now the #1 most common vulnerability |
| 02:43.56 | Shirik | so what's next? |
| 02:43.59 | Shirik | If you can't execute data |
| 02:44.48 | Lunessa | does that include sanitizing user input in your "can't execute data' ? |
| 02:44.59 | Shirik | you talking about like SQL attacks? |
| 02:45.03 | Lunessa | Yeah. |
| 02:45.04 | Shirik | no I wouldn't count that |
| 02:45.07 | Shirik | I meant things like shellcode |
| 02:45.16 | Shirik | so, ok |
| 02:45.19 | Shirik | that's a good one |
| 02:45.35 | Shirik | though I don't think that's resolvable |
| 02:46.14 | Shirik | Reason I ask is for a project I'm working on, I'm supposed to come up with a new computer architecture. One of my ideas was a "server-oriented architecture" that would be immune to these types of vulnerabilities simply because they are impossible |
| 02:46.50 | Shirik | SQL injection I don't think would be resolvable at the architecture level |
| 02:48.27 | Lunessa | Shirik: Remember two things - There's always a rat smarter than your trap. The more complex the plumbing, the easier it is to clog the fucking drain. |
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| 02:51.20 | Lunessa | With those in mind, the key is simplicity. Reduce the number of vectors for an attack. Any client/server architecture is going to have places to attack it in the communications protocol. Especially if you need some sort of legacy tech. |
| 02:51.36 | Dagmar | Legacy == FUN |
| 02:51.45 | Dagmar | Soft and *chewy* |
| 02:52.10 | Lunessa | So if you have to support TCP or UDP in your design - then you have all those legacy vectors. |
| 02:52.39 | Lunessa | And sure as the sun rises in the morning, once you start sweeping things away to redesign, you'll open the old holes again. |
| 02:52.41 | Dagmar | ehwot? |
| 02:52.47 | Dagmar | Surelty you're not blaming TCP/UDP |
| 02:53.18 | Lunessa | I'm just saying there's things to be cautious of in your approach. |
| 02:53.25 | Dagmar | THe issue of SQL injection arises from a lack of fatal beatings when people fail to properly detaint input |
| 02:53.35 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I moved past that. |
| 02:53.38 | Dagmar | Start beating programmers to death and things will change. |
| 02:53.51 | Lunessa | Now I'm just speaking about general theory. |
| 02:54.25 | Dagmar | Sort of the smae thing applies with shellcode, but with a minor variation at the "learn to count" stanza |
| 02:55.12 | Dagmar | ...one can mostly chop those off at the knees with modern stack protection stuff in compilers, and using the nice new CPUs that can forbid execution of any data |
| 02:55.55 | Dagmar | I'm trying to find the link about this thing that hit the news last week that adds another layer of hindrance to people trying to run rootkits |
| 02:56.12 | Lunessa | I'd like to see that article. :) |
| 02:56.19 | Lunessa | afk - need a cola. |
| 02:56.43 | Dagmar | Granted, they're responsive techniques as opposed to proactive ones, but more layers won't hurt |
| 02:57.26 | Dagmar | Beating coders, or hiring ones that don't suck and paying them well instead of hiring cheap ones and driving them into the ground ensuring you get shiny new crap to work with... |
| 02:57.31 | Dagmar | That's where the real action is at. |
| 03:00.18 | Lunessa | back. |
| 03:00.42 | Lunessa | This cola needs rum. Too bad I'm still at work. |
| 03:00.52 | Dagmar | This *sounds* like what I was reading about, but I've not had a chance to follow up on it yet and the link is at home |
| 03:00.53 | Dagmar | http://www.csc.ncsu.edu/faculty/jiang/pubs/RAID08_NICKLE.pdf |
| 03:01.57 | Dagmar | The news article had caught my attention because it was a discussion of preventing Linux rootkits from working, yet the article seemed to represent that somehow someone from Microsoft was involved in it, which just baffled me |
| 03:04.04 | Dagmar | Ah, here's the article and apparently it *is* about the stuff discussed in that PDF |
| 03:04.05 | Dagmar | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/11/hooksafe_rootkit_protection/ |
| 03:04.06 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Thanks for the link |
| 03:04.26 | Dagmar | No problem |
| 03:04.38 | Dagmar | Anyone who wants any infosec info I have is more than welcome to it |
| 03:04.44 | Dagmar | Less hassle for me further down the road |
| 03:07.47 | Dagmar | I used to do lectures but it started to feel like the day when I'd be unable to just leap across the room and strangle someone for asking what TCP is when I'm talking about ARP skullduggery or something else reasonably technical seemed like it was too, too close at hand |
| 03:08.08 | Dagmar | er unable to stop myself from performing said act of not-so-random violence I mean |
| 03:09.52 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I used to speak "programmer" to "managers" so yeah, I get it. |
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| 03:18.48 | Cairenn | KAELTEN!!!!! |
| 03:18.58 | Kaelten | sup |
| 03:19.14 | Cairenn | TALKS REALLY LOUDLY TO KAELTEN! |
| 03:19.54 | Cairenn | OFFERS KAELTEN SOME REALLY GREASY DISGUSTING FOOD AND SHINES LOTS OF BRIGHT LIGHTS AROUND! |
| 03:20.03 | Kaelten | lol |
| 03:20.17 | Kaelten | too late for that, the hangover wore off this afternoon |
| 03:20.39 | Kaelten | :P |
| 03:20.39 | Cairenn | silly boy, you didn't let me tease you while you were drunk! no fair! |
| 03:20.43 | Lunessa | What noxious things were YOU drinking? |
| 03:20.48 | Kaelten | lol, |
| 03:20.54 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 03:20.56 | Kaelten | well 6 beers, 5 or 6 shots, and 2 mixed drinks |
| 03:21.11 | Lunessa | Oh, so like... before dinner drinking then. |
| 03:21.12 | Cairenn | and what on earth had you getting plastered on a Monday morning? |
| 03:21.26 | Dagmar | Verticality. |
| 03:21.26 | Dagmar | :) |
| 03:21.33 | Kaelten | it was a sunday night actually |
| 03:21.41 | Kaelten | and no real reason |
| 03:21.47 | Cairenn | okay, so what had you getting plastered on a Sunday night? |
| 03:21.50 | NightHawkTheSane | do you need a reason? pfft |
| 03:21.54 | NightHawkTheSane | its sunday night is a good enough reason! |
| 03:22.00 | Lunessa | I tease, but I've seen Kaelten put them away. Hell, he finished the drinks Cairenn wouldn't. |
| 03:22.03 | Dagmar | The presence of purchasable alcohol! |
| 03:22.17 | Kaelten | Dagmar: actually I just had all that in my house |
| 03:22.27 | Dagmar | You purchased it, right? |
| 03:22.34 | Kaelten | most of it |
| 03:22.54 | Cairenn | Lunessa: you drink enough, it doesn't matter how bad they taste, you'll still drink 'em |
| 03:23.01 | Dagmar | I keep having to explain to my mom every time she comes over that the assembly of bottles over my fridge is because I *don't* drink a lot |
| 03:23.06 | Cairenn | I, however, don't drink enough that I don't care how they taste |
| 03:23.09 | Dagmar | If I drank a lot, they'd be in the trash. |
| 03:23.13 | Kaelten | I had company over, the gf put back a bottle of wine, and me and xtek for some reason decided to match each other |
| 03:23.14 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Oh yeah. I used to do 14 shots a night. |
| 03:23.33 | Kaelten | Lunessa: i did that once, in about 45-1.5h not reall ysure |
| 03:23.59 | Lunessa | Kaelten: Next time... drink-off! A Challenger appears! |
| 03:24.04 | Kaelten | lol |
| 03:24.10 | Kaelten | no thanks |
| 03:24.22 | Kaelten | 14 kamakazi's in an hour is too much too fast |
| 03:24.30 | Kaelten | didn't have a hangover that time though |
| 03:24.33 | Kaelten | this is actually my first hangover |
| 03:25.02 | Shirik | agggggggggg |
| 03:25.07 | Shirik | the christmas commercials |
| 03:25.09 | Shirik | they are starting |
| 03:25.19 | Shirik | (22:21:31) (Lunessa) I tease, but I've seen Kaelten put them away. Hell, he finished the drinks Cairenn wouldn't. |
| 03:25.28 | Shirik | You missed what he drank at Blizzcon |
| 03:25.35 | Shirik | basically take a shot of rum |
| 03:25.43 | Kaelten | Shirik: he was there for this last blizzcon |
| 03:25.44 | Lunessa | Shirik: No, I didn't. I was sitting right across from him. |
| 03:25.53 | Shirik | two years ago |
| 03:25.59 | Cairenn | Shirik is talking about the BC two years ago |
| 03:26.02 | Kaelten | ya, still didn't get drunk that blizzcon, lol |
| 03:26.05 | Lunessa | He was plugging them down at the bar on Friday night. |
| 03:26.11 | Shirik | take a shot of rum |
| 03:26.13 | Shirik | but, the shot glass |
| 03:26.17 | Shirik | is the size of a large drink |
| 03:26.26 | Shirik | I think that's basically right |
| 03:26.49 | Lunessa | It was really nice of those people to buy us that round when we got there. |
| 03:27.08 | Kaelten | Shirik: AMFs: 1 part, vodka tequila rum gin and tripple sec, 3 parts sour mix, 3 parts sprite |
| 03:27.24 | Shirik | is that the blue stuff? |
| 03:27.33 | Lunessa | Kaelten: You forgot the "2 parts WTF AM I DOING TO MY BRAIN" |
| 03:27.40 | Kaelten | Shirik: yes |
| 03:27.41 | Cairenn | Shirik: yes |
| 03:27.47 | Shirik | but didn't they forget the mixer? |
| 03:27.48 | Lunessa | No, the blue stuff is Curaco |
| 03:28.09 | Cairenn | Shirik: oh, you're thinking of the one at the restaurant - yeah, they did |
| 03:28.51 | Cairenn | there was no mix in it ... if I'd had a couple drinks before hand, I could have finished it, but it was too strong to be my first drink of the night |
| 03:29.07 | Kaelten | it wasn't THAT bad.... |
| 03:29.12 | Shirik | isn't that supposed to be backwards o.o |
| 03:29.13 | Cairenn | (says she who drinks scotch neat) |
| 03:29.16 | Kaelten | at least I think i drank it... |
| 03:29.30 | Dagmar | Practice with Clear Springs |
| 03:29.36 | Dagmar | One shot a night |
| 03:29.38 | Shirik | "I'm drunk, so I'm willing to drink more" |
| 03:29.40 | Shirik | ? |
| 03:29.55 | Kaelten | all I got to say is shooting beefeater will clean your sinuses |
| 03:30.21 | Shirik | I don't drink shots. I might have a beer once a month if I'm feeling daring. |
| 03:30.42 | Kaelten | hehe, all I got to say is I'm done for a little while, lol |
| 03:30.46 | Dagmar | Okay, so one shot of Clear Springs would probably kill you |
| 03:30.46 | NightHawkTheSane | will drink (almost) anything you put in front of him |
| 03:30.57 | Kaelten | maybe a beer at lunch on friday, but not a repeat of last night anytime soon |
| 03:30.58 | Thunder_Child | Kaelten, so will shooting horseraddish |
| 03:31.01 | Cairenn | you can't pay me enough to get me to drink beer |
| 03:31.02 | NightHawkTheSane | which, by the way, has lead to some interesting discoveries |
| 03:31.19 | NightHawkTheSane | such as: egg nog is NOT an acceptable substitute for milk in a white russian. |
| 03:31.30 | Kaelten | lmao |
| 03:31.35 | Dagmar | omg yuck |
| 03:31.40 | Cairenn | NightHawkTheSane: but is delicious when spiked with spiced rum |
| 03:31.47 | Kaelten | just give cairen a 3oz milkless mudslide and she'll be fine |
| 03:31.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Cairenn: oh, absolutely. :) its one of the few ways i'l enjoy rum |
| 03:31.55 | Cairenn | mmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 03:31.57 | Cairenn | purrs |
| 03:34.29 | Lunessa | Bailey's, spiced rum, vanilla ice cream, blender. Your mouth will thank me later. |
| 03:34.52 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i've done that. |
| 03:35.58 | Zhinjio | ooo, someone else who knows what Curacao is. |
| 03:36.39 | Dagmar | "Your mouth will thank me later." <-- what exactly is _that_ supposed to mean? |
| 03:36.48 | Dagmar | Good lord |
| 03:36.48 | Cairenn | that it's yummy |
| 03:36.57 | Zhinjio | that its full of awesome. |
| 03:37.06 | Dagmar | Okay, I'll buy that |
| 03:38.10 | Zhinjio | is, for better or worse, fairly good at this whole drinking thing. |
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| 03:38.15 | Lunessa | Zhinjio: I'm a trained bartender. |
| 03:38.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: it means you'll have the uncontrollable urge to fellate Lunessa afterwards |
| 03:38.27 | Zhinjio | Lunessa: that explains it. I'm an untrained bartender! |
| 03:38.36 | Cairenn | knows what Curacao is |
| 03:38.45 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: ... pass. |
| 03:38.51 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 03:38.59 | Jerub | I know enough about bartending for how to put scotch into a scotchglass successfully, and that's enough for me. |
| 03:38.59 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 03:39.01 | Cairenn | O.o |
| 03:39.11 | Cairenn | Jerub: sounds like enough to me ;) |
| 03:39.42 | Lunessa | As long as you're not a heathen and drink it from the bottle. And you drink single malt instead of that blended crap. |
| 03:39.48 | Cairenn | hmmm, that reminds me, I really need to pick up a bottle of Drambuie |
| 03:39.53 | Shirik | I am not a trained bartender |
| 03:40.05 | Dagmar | I have learned many ways of getting jello to congeal, no matter what. |
| 03:40.06 | Zhinjio | I know enough abotu scotch and tequila types to discuss them intelligently with a non-novice. I've tried or enjoy most mixers and know what to do with many of them in combinations with other things, and I know what I personally8 like. |
| 03:40.19 | Shirik | I know how to make rum and cokew |
| 03:40.20 | Dagmar | For everything else, there's erlenmeyer flasks |
| 03:40.22 | Lunessa | I went to a crash course when I was between jobs - mostly because they did placement. |
| 03:40.34 | Zhinjio | nice |
| 03:40.55 | Lunessa | And I can make a mean maragrita. |
| 03:40.58 | Zhinjio | I think I'd like to bartend for awhile, actually |
| 03:41.10 | Dagmar | Spent much time in bars? |
| 03:41.16 | Zhinjio | me? |
| 03:41.17 | Zhinjio | sure. |
| 03:41.21 | Lunessa | The hours suck, your feet hurt, and you stink of booze all the time. |
| 03:41.26 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 03:41.44 | Dagmar | Okay, just wanted to find out if you maybe needed to be reminded that bars tend to be frequented by well, heavy drinkers |
| 03:41.47 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 03:41.49 | Jerub | i had a new variety of glen morangie the other night that was a stunning drop |
| 03:41.57 | Lunessa | But, if you're any good, you a) get good tip, b) get hit on by just about everything on the other side of the bar. |
| 03:42.03 | Dagmar | I don't pick up girls in bars precisely because they're IN the bar |
| 03:42.06 | Jerub | i really should've checked if it was single malt or a blend, but it's glen morangie... |
| 03:42.13 | Shirik | hi Lunessa |
| 03:42.17 | Shirik | what are you doing tonight? |
| 03:42.18 | Zhinjio | glen morangie is single |
| 03:42.24 | Cairenn | always |
| 03:42.29 | Lunessa | ALWAYS. |
| 03:42.33 | Dagmar | It's a great way to meet your next extremely alcoholic girlfriend |
| 03:42.34 | Lunessa | Shirik: I'm working. |
| 03:42.46 | Lunessa | And if I'm not working, I'm washing my hair. |
| 03:42.58 | Jerub | i'm trying to find it. it's not the nectar d'or |
| 03:43.05 | Cairenn | Dagmar: not everyone that goes to bars are skanks and alcoholics :p |
| 03:43.10 | Jerub | the astar, that's it. |
| 03:43.17 | Dagmar | Cairenn: I know. I'm neither. |
| 03:43.27 | Lunessa | Me either. But I play one in a bar. |
| 03:43.27 | Thunder_Child | lol Lunessa |
| 03:43.31 | Zhinjio | I'm definitely a skank. |
| 03:43.32 | Zhinjio | er... |
| 03:43.40 | Zhinjio | wait. |
| 03:43.42 | Shirik | well then Lunessa |
| 03:43.44 | Shirik | what are you wearing? |
| 03:43.44 | Zhinjio | was that my out loud voice? |
| 03:43.46 | Thunder_Child | that just shows how old you are Lunessa |
| 03:43.58 | Dagmar | I'm generally just there to make other people feel like they need a drink. ;) |
| 03:44.09 | Zhinjio | I enjoy the social part of bars. |
| 03:44.10 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: I'll be getting the black ballons at my next BDay party. |
| 03:44.12 | Jerub | http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-8330.aspx <- this is it. |
| 03:44.13 | Dagmar | I got into most dance clubs free b |
| 03:44.14 | Cairenn | I only play a skank when drinking and dancing on chairs at Ozzy concerts :p |
| 03:44.16 | Dagmar | er because of that |
| 03:44.43 | Lunessa | Shirik: You naughty boy. I bet you say that to all the fellas. |
| 03:45.13 | Jerub | sorry, go back to your regular scheduled cocktails. |
| 03:46.29 | Lunessa | I'm a vodka man usually. But a good whiskey will do in a pinch, and if I'm in need of a light drink for social occasions - then rum will suffice. But once the tequila is rolling, Cairenn isn't safe without three body guards and a cattle prod. |
| 03:46.44 | Cairenn | purrs some more |
| 03:46.59 | Kaelten | hey man I don't want to know what you like to do with a cattle prod so much that it'd distract you for Cair |
| 03:47.02 | Kaelten | from* |
| 03:47.12 | Lunessa | LOL |
| 03:47.26 | Lunessa | I think the point was that it delivers enough juice to knock me out. |
| 03:47.27 | Cairenn | I'm kinda disappointed that BlizzCon isn't in LV after all ... that would be one hell of a good party |
| 03:47.39 | Kaelten | verily |
| 03:48.03 | Zhinjio | I think thats my cue to idle again. |
| 03:48.08 | Lunessa | I'm still trying to figure a way to cinch BlizzCon tix for next year. |
| 03:48.21 | Cairenn | one of these days they're going to hold it somewhere that will allow me my wish of going out to a dance club at the end of the day |
| 03:48.27 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 03:48.35 | Cairenn | likes to dance when she's drinking |
| 03:48.37 | Kaelten | it's going to be interesting to see what they do to keep up to the demand though |
| 03:49.23 | Thunder_Child | rent a small country |
| 03:49.29 | Cairenn | heh |
| 03:50.06 | Jerub | i need to be far drunker than i used to be in order to dance. |
| 03:50.40 | Cairenn | Jerub: no, you just need to hang out with me .... I've gotten more than one guy up dancing, who otherwise swears they won't dance |
| 03:50.43 | Lunessa | Cairenn: You should have said something. I had my car. We could have gone ANYWHERE |
| 03:51.09 | Cairenn | Lunessa: I'm not that silly ... if I got into your car, I would have found myself kidnapped back to your hotel :p |
| 03:51.18 | Lunessa | Hell, I had room for 5 - 6 if you were really friendly! |
| 03:51.21 | Jerub | Cairenn: AIUI, being around you in a dancing environment would get me sufficently sauced. |
| 03:51.30 | Kaelten | and then the rest of us would have had to kill him, and he's such a nice guy.... |
| 03:51.34 | Lunessa | *wink* |
| 03:51.39 | Jerub | my car only has 4 seats though ;) |
| 03:51.39 | Cairenn | ;) |
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| 03:52.46 | Lunessa | Did someone take you to the beach Cairenn? |
| 03:52.59 | Cairenn | yes, got to the beach, was very happy |
| 03:53.13 | Cairenn | loooooooves the ocean |
| 03:54.18 | Thunder_Child | i love the ocean...when it isnt fubar'd |
| 03:54.28 | Lunessa | I liked being next to the ocean in Galveston. I just didn't like living conditions after a hurricane. |
| 03:54.45 | Lunessa | The sea is soothing. |
| 03:55.07 | Thunder_Child | stabs the socal coastline |
| 03:56.07 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: It's WAY better than anything in the northwestern part of the Gulf of Mexico. |
| 04:02.47 | Dagmar | It has playful sharks! |
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| 04:04.23 | Lunessa | I grew up largely in Los Angeles and spent a lot of time at Santa Monic beach, Venice beach and the occasional runs to Manhattan Beach or Zuma Beach. SoCal beaches don't suck. And living in Stanta Barbara put me near some more prime beaches. |
| 04:04.54 | Jerub | meh, i live near australian beaches :) |
| 04:05.18 | Cairenn | grew up swimming in the N.Atlantic ocean |
| 04:05.31 | Cairenn | SoCal beaches are very nice :p |
| 04:05.42 | Lunessa | Cairenn: I did sailing there, but not much swimming. |
| 04:06.07 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, not with sludge |
| 04:06.23 | Cairenn | best swimming for us was late Sept through Oct |
| 04:06.28 | Cairenn | that's when the water was warmest |
| 04:11.14 | Lunessa | Cairenn: I took a few trips to Tronoto and went swimming in the lake. :) |
| 04:12.26 | Cairenn | heh |
| 04:12.27 | NightHawkTheSane | erie? >.> i'm sorry... |
| 04:12.47 | Cairenn | not sure I'd swim anywhere near TO, that's for sure :p |
| 04:13.02 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm not certain i'd swim anywhere in lake erie. |
| 04:13.41 | Shirik | Cairenn in a bathing suit |
| 04:13.49 | Cairenn | no, just no |
| 04:13.58 | Cairenn | that's not an image anyone needs to be subjected to |
| 04:14.02 | Shirik | rofl |
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| 04:14.37 | Shirik | Thunder_Child |
| 04:14.42 | Shirik | I have determined something about that camera technology |
| 04:14.47 | Shirik | something about it doesn't make sense |
| 04:14.52 | Shirik | it must be a partially simulated picture |
| 04:15.01 | Shirik | or something I don't know |
| 04:15.08 | Thunder_Child | hmm? |
| 04:15.16 | Shirik | The shutter isn't opening/closing |
| 04:15.26 | Shirik | so how the heck is it getting the exposure right |
| 04:15.36 | Shirik | You can't tell me the shutter moves at 60Hz |
| 04:15.37 | batrick | black magic |
| 04:15.41 | Thunder_Child | the chip |
| 04:15.47 | Thunder_Child | it deices how much to absorb |
| 04:15.52 | Thunder_Child | decides* |
| 04:16.00 | Shirik | uh |
| 04:16.09 | Shirik | I don't think the chip can bend the laws of physics |
| 04:16.13 | Lunessa | Shirik: for analog tech, it's called an .f stop. |
| 04:16.20 | Shirik | I mean I know I don't know the technology |
| 04:16.21 | Shirik | Lunessa: no |
| 04:16.22 | Lunessa | Google will explain all. |
| 04:16.25 | Shirik | stop talking before you continue |
| 04:16.31 | Shirik | because that is very wrong, I promise :) |
| 04:16.53 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: I'm not sure what you mean by "how much to absorb" |
| 04:17.04 | Thunder_Child | you were talking about exposure. the shutter doesnt have to open/shut since the chip can do it's own absorbtion of light |
| 04:17.07 | Shirik | Lunessa: If it were to change the aperture then the picture would be altered, and not what you specified |
| 04:17.28 | Thunder_Child | it's not film, where it can take /to much/ light |
| 04:17.28 | Lunessa | what the hell camera are you talking about? |
| 04:17.34 | Thunder_Child | digital |
| 04:18.01 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: I guess you can flush the caps |
| 04:18.03 | Lunessa | Oh. He's talking about exposure of the CCD? |
| 04:18.05 | Shirik | short them to ground of something |
| 04:18.14 | Dagmar | Shirik: That's almost exactly what happens |
| 04:18.28 | Thunder_Child | si Lunessa |
| 04:18.30 | Shirik | Dagmar, this technology exists in one camera in the entire world |
| 04:18.30 | Dagmar | This is why yer cheaper digital cameras have shit for frame rates in low-light conditions |
| 04:18.33 | Thunder_Child | or the other one |
| 04:18.50 | Shirik | how could you possibly know all knowledge about everything in the universe to know implementation details of something that just came out |
| 04:19.02 | Thunder_Child | skill? |
| 04:19.04 | Dagmar | Read Wired sometime. |
| 04:19.20 | Jerub | heh, wired. |
| 04:19.27 | Jerub | i remember when wired was geeky ;) |
| 04:19.45 | Dagmar | Yes, oddly, manufacturers of new/cool/fancy tech seem to just love to spill their guts to Wired. |
| 04:19.46 | Lunessa | Now it's just chice-y. |
| 04:19.49 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: What's the model number again? I bet they have a patent on it |
| 04:20.13 | Shirik | still something really bothers me |
| 04:20.17 | Shirik | it leaves the CCD open the whole time? |
| 04:20.28 | Shirik | isn't that really dangerous? |
| 04:20.36 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, wait...what are we talking about? |
| 04:20.43 | Shirik | the camera |
| 04:20.45 | Thunder_Child | i want talking about a particular camera |
| 04:20.45 | Dagmar | Yes, CCDs have no shutter. |
| 04:20.45 | Shirik | which goes back in time |
| 04:20.51 | Thunder_Child | oh |
| 04:20.59 | Shirik | Dagmar, just stop talking |
| 04:21.05 | Shirik | Thunder_Child knows what I'm referring to |
| 04:21.12 | Thunder_Child | it doesnt go back in time, it simply buffers from the time you hold the shutter half way |
| 04:21.15 | Shirik | right |
| 04:21.21 | Shirik | but that means it must be recording data |
| 04:21.26 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 04:21.26 | Shirik | which means the CCD must be exposed |
| 04:21.36 | Thunder_Child | same way a highspeed camera works |
| 04:21.41 | Thunder_Child | like vid camera |
| 04:21.45 | Shirik | it will be interesting to see in a few years their maintenance record |
| 04:21.50 | Lunessa | goes back to thinking about Cairenn in a swimsuit |
| 04:21.56 | Thunder_Child | there is a reason why it doesnt have a high pixel count |
| 04:22.00 | Cairenn | eww, don't |
| 04:22.04 | Dagmar | Just point 'em at the sun for a few minutes |
| 04:22.09 | Dagmar | That'll take care of 'em |
| 04:22.20 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, http://www.exilim.com/intl/ex_f1/features1.html |
| 04:22.26 | Lunessa | Cairenn: No worries. :P |
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| 04:23.10 | Dagmar | You should see the commercials I saw aired earlier tonight |
| 04:23.23 | Dagmar | I kid you not.. "What if your pictures... could move?" |
| 04:23.49 | Thunder_Child | then they would be.....ghost pictures |
| 04:23.57 | batrick | AHHHHHHH |
| 04:23.58 | Thunder_Child | or videos, but that doesnt sound as fun |
| 04:24.13 | Lunessa | Shirik: So, you're talking about software interpolation for the between shots. |
| 04:24.16 | Dagmar | I would've thought they'd be called "movies" or "motion pictures" personally. |
| 04:24.21 | Shirik | no |
| 04:24.23 | Dagmar | Apparently Casio's lawyers disagree |
| 04:24.24 | Shirik | sec, raiding |
| 04:24.26 | Shirik | I'll explain later |
| 04:25.08 | Lunessa | NM - I'm reading the press piece. I get it. |
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| 04:30.47 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.2.x ToC: 30200 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Happy Impending Fatherhood, Kowski! |
| 04:30.56 | Lunessa | Ok, going home. |
| 04:31.03 | Cairenn | night lunessa |
| 04:31.05 | Cairenn | *huggles* |
| 04:31.12 | Lunessa | Ciao tutti. And thanks all. |
| 04:35.38 | batrick | hi |
| 04:36.10 | Cairenn | hi |
| 04:36.41 | Thunder_Child | low |
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| 04:44.47 | kd3|hate`net | rgrr |
| 04:45.29 | Shirik | I have now successfully rolled a 96 and a 98 on loot |
| 04:45.32 | Shirik | and lost both times |
| 04:45.50 | kd3 | ./point, /laugh |
| 04:45.50 | Shirik | Best part: I'm one of 4 mains in a raid of alts |
| 04:46.12 | kd3 | wait, wait. and mains don't outroll alts automatically? |
| 04:46.20 | Jerub | I rolled 98 on the head of onyxia, and lost it to the dps dk RL+ML who won some plate |
| 04:46.20 | Thunder_Child | guild run? |
| 04:46.31 | Dagmar | why would mains outroll alts? |
| 04:46.43 | kd3 | who's running progression raids? |
| 04:46.47 | Shirik | that's.... complicated kd3 :P |
| 04:47.12 | Dagmar | What's to stop someone from just saying "Oh this is my main now" and changing their mind every few days |
| 04:47.37 | kd3 | "uh-huh, yeah. /gkick x5" |
| 04:47.40 | Jerub | i attempted htoc10 with a pug last night. |
| 04:47.42 | Dagmar | We've always done whatever toon you brought is the one you're rolling for. Any alts you have that aren't there are lowest possible priority |
| 04:47.50 | Jerub | least QQ i've *ever* seen in a pug raid. |
| 04:48.11 | Jerub | it was clearly 10 toons that were saved to basically every other raid and wanted a crap at htoc10 |
| 04:48.20 | Dagmar | Heh |
| 04:48.26 | Dagmar | So, experienced puggers then |
| 04:48.30 | Dagmar | Nice. :) |
| 04:48.57 | Jerub | too bad we had two trees doing tank heals. |
| 04:49.07 | Jerub | tree tank healing = fail |
| 04:50.34 | Dagmar | ouch |
| 04:54.53 | Thunder_Child | whats the command to leave an arena team? |
| 04:56.04 | Yssaril | _/gquit AT |
| 04:56.06 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:56.19 | Thunder_Child | cute Yssaril |
| 04:56.49 | Shadowed | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:56.54 | Shadowed | or maybe it's teamquit, one of those |
| 04:57.23 | Yssaril | _/teamquit 2v2 |
| 04:57.50 | Yssaril | or 3v3, 5v5 depending on which you want to quit |
| 04:58.57 | Thunder_Child | thanks Shadowed |
| 04:59.04 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Yssaril |
| 04:59.04 | purl | offers Yssaril some herring |
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| 05:01.12 | WobWork | http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26360993-13762,00.html |
| 05:01.59 | Shirik | kd3 anyway |
| 05:02.02 | Shirik | problem is |
| 05:02.05 | Shirik | This is truly an alt run |
| 05:02.18 | Shirik | If we let mains come to alt runs and then take precedence, why wouldn't everyone do it? |
| 05:02.23 | Shirik | I don't have to pay DKP here |
| 05:02.44 | Shirik | so we have a "wish list" rule |
| 05:06.41 | Dagmar | What the hell is up with the forums? |
| 05:07.09 | Dagmar | I see people posting irrational, elitist diatribes, followed by dozens of reasonably moderate rejections of their opinion. |
| 05:07.16 | Dagmar | When the hell did THAT start happening? |
| 05:07.31 | WobWork | heavens |
| 05:08.15 | Jerub | (I was one of the tree main tank healers) |
| 05:12.33 | Torhal | Dagmar: The coming of the Rapture. Only possible explanation. |
| 05:12.58 | Torhal | Either that, or people had the stoopid kicked out of them. |
| 05:13.23 | Dagmar | Torhal: I think it has something to do with the forum server malfunctioning |
| 05:13.37 | Torhal | Good call! |
| 05:13.38 | Dagmar | Iv'e been unable to get anything but "Server Error" when trying to reply for about 15 minutes straight here |
| 05:14.03 | Dagmar | Must be that the servers have been post-locked since before grade school classes let out or something |
| 05:15.36 | Dagmar | I see a post by someone talking about "the virus" of gearscore obsessives because they got turned down in their request to tank Ulduar, and they're in a bunch of level 75 blues... |
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| 05:15.51 | Dagmar | ...followed by a lot of people saying "Man you actually DO need to do some heroics first" |
| 05:16.18 | Jerub | in the same htoc10 we had a pally come along with ilvl 200 purples and blues. |
| 05:16.25 | Dagmar | There's even a post with a URL in it and very little explanation that isn't a keylogger. |
| 05:16.31 | Dagmar | Fuck I need to get to a church |
| 05:16.41 | Jerub | "Are you aware we're doing ToGC10? The Heroic version of the raid" "Yes" .... |
| 05:16.43 | Dagmar | Jerub: Did he _tank_ it in that? |
| 05:16.50 | Dagmar | My pet could probably take this paladin |
| 05:16.59 | Jerub | Dagmar: he was 1shot with a party kick after that question/answer. |
| 05:17.03 | Dagmar | I know I can get my monkey's hit points higher than this guy |
| 05:17.17 | Dagmar | hehehe |
| 05:20.45 | Dagmar | Wait... The world isn't ending |
| 05:20.52 | Dagmar | I know what the problem is |
| 05:21.22 | Dagmar | All the abhorrent lameness has merely reached some sort of bizarre harmonic resonance and concentrated itself into one post |
| 05:21.33 | Dagmar | "FYI to TWILIGHT Roleplayers out there" |
| 05:21.53 | Jerub | we did actually get p1 of NR beasts down once in 10 tries. was quite happy. |
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| 05:37.10 | Shirik | Woah |
| 05:37.16 | Shirik | Blackberry OS 5.0 invented new hardware on my phone? o.o |
| 05:37.28 | Shirik | Damn some crazy technology they got |
| 05:37.42 | Shirik | Download an update and get new hardware |
| 05:42.11 | Dagmar | FPGA arrays FTW |
| 05:43.55 | WobWork | Shirik: that's awesome |
| 05:43.55 | Shirik | Are those like ATM machines? |
| 05:44.11 | Shirik | and actually they didn't do anything with the hardware. They just fixed buggy drivers. |
| 05:44.12 | WobWork | I want my phone to download pizza |
| 05:44.13 | Shirik | I looked it up |
| 05:44.27 | Shirik | The LED was supposed to go yellow by combining red and green when battery is low |
| 05:44.34 | Shirik | but apparently they sucked at it and it was green instead |
| 05:44.37 | Shirik | now they fixed it |
| 05:44.39 | WobWork | hehe |
| 05:44.52 | Shirik | WobWork: lol |
| 05:49.57 | Shirik | aand |
| 05:49.58 | Shirik | then it broke |
| 05:54.39 | Thunder_Child | wait |
| 05:55.23 | Thunder_Child | it's supposed to go from one to two lights when the battery gets low? |
| 05:55.31 | Thunder_Child | that seems counterproductive |
| 05:59.38 | Torhal | Let's drain it FASTER |
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| 06:00.57 | AbsolutRayne | Yays, ToGC25 Anub attempts |
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| 06:09.12 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, dont talk and run |
| 06:13.04 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Yes lol |
| 06:13.12 | Shirik | but really, LEDs take extremely little current |
| 06:13.14 | Shirik | it's not a big deal |
| 06:25.44 | Shirik | Hm |
| 06:26.04 | Shirik | Is there anything that requires you to be able to handle TCPto be able to connect to the internet? |
| 06:26.40 | Shirik | The decision to use TCP is more the application's, no? |
| 06:26.45 | Shirik | Couldn't you theoretically only use UDP? |
| 06:26.53 | Shirik | You wouldn't be able to get much done, sure, but there's no /requirement/ |
| 06:27.24 | Fisker | kisses wobi |
| 06:27.25 | Fisker | fu |
| 06:27.32 | Shadowed | Beside the fact that it would be a pain to only use UDP, I can't think of a requirement |
| 06:28.02 | theorbtwo | Well, um... yes, and no. It's the application's choice in a wide sense, but not in a narrow sense. If you want to use http, or smtp, or imap, or ssh, you need to support tcp. |
| 06:29.17 | theorbtwo | In fact, I can't think of anything useful, in general, to do with a device that supported UDP/IP but not TCP/IP. |
| 06:30.18 | Shirik | connect to another computer that only used UDP |
| 06:30.20 | Shirik | obviously |
| 06:31.32 | theorbtwo | Shirik: Yeah, I was trying to think of stuff that doesn't require custom server-side software specificly written with the limitation in mind. |
| 06:32.09 | Shirik | The reason I brought it up was because, out of curiosity, I went to Wikipedia to see how they defined the internet, and they said it was "a global system of interconnected computer networks that use the standard Internet Protocol Suite (TCP/IP)" |
| 06:32.28 | Shirik | It is my argument that there is no requirement that they use both the TCP and IP protocols. Only IP is necessary |
| 06:33.12 | theorbtwo | Eh... I'm not sure. I can't really put a hard line on it. |
| 06:33.53 | theorbtwo | I think a device that does only tcp6/ipv6 + udp6/ipv6 is probably more a part of the Internet then a device that does udp/ip but not tcp/ip. |
| 06:34.36 | Shirik | uh |
| 06:34.46 | Shirik | there is no tcp6 or udp6 |
| 06:35.14 | Shirik | tcp, udp, and ip are 3 completely separate and independent protocols |
| 06:35.19 | Shirik | You don't need to use TCP OR UDP |
| 06:35.27 | Shirik | Someone could communicate data over the internet with only IP |
| 06:35.39 | Shirik | It would be extremely annoying, but possible |
| 06:36.04 | Shirik | it would also violate the networking stack of any modern OS |
| 06:36.35 | Shirik | but the fact is that these computers are connected by nothing more than IP. TCP and UDP are merely a means of interpreting the data at the destination, nothing more |
| 06:36.54 | Shirik | well ok it's a little more |
| 06:37.01 | Shirik | but it has no effect on the actual connectivity |
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| 07:09.34 | Shirik | ahahaha |
| 07:09.49 | Shirik | I love Windows' detection of what you want to do when you type it in |
| 07:10.23 | Shirik | check out this suggestion |
| 07:10.53 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/fc0bb0cd3005f4d14d0b6098555697ba.png |
| 07:10.56 | Shirik | msn == uninstall |
| 07:11.30 | Trela_ | Nice. |
| 07:11.46 | cog|away | might be something in the metadata |
| 07:12.02 | cog|away | type in "disk management" for example |
| 07:12.33 | Shirik | I just like how its suggestion of anything related to MSN is "uninstall!" |
| 07:12.50 | cog|away | hehe |
| 07:14.49 | Shirik | Where's Lunessa |
| 07:14.58 | Shirik | anyone else from TX here? Do they really not have a DOT? |
| 07:15.09 | Shirik | Or rather, do driver's licenses of TX not come from the DOT? |
| 07:18.43 | Dagmar | They *should* |
| 07:18.52 | Dagmar | Every state has a DMV and I know I've seen TX plates |
| 07:19.12 | Dagmar | Ah... Yes, it's probably the Department of Motor Vehicles you need to look into. |
| 07:19.21 | Shirik | Yes see that's what I thought every state did |
| 07:19.26 | Dagmar | To my knowledge the Department of Transporation doesn't do licences or registration |
| 07:19.33 | Shirik | that's what I meant to say, DMV not DOT |
| 07:19.41 | Dagmar | No problem |
| 07:19.46 | Shirik | but King of the Hill kept saying "Department of Public Safety" |
| 07:19.49 | Shirik | and "DPS" |
| 07:20.01 | Shirik | and so I looked it up and it seems this "Department of Public Safety" is what gives out licenses in TX... |
| 07:20.06 | Shirik | and I'm sitting here like "wtf is that" |
| 07:20.09 | Dagmar | Weird |
| 07:20.18 | Dagmar | Farkin' texans |
| 07:22.20 | Dagmar | Looks like you're spot on. http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/driver_licensing_control/dlindex.htm |
| 07:22.49 | Shirik | it gets wierder |
| 07:22.55 | Shirik | the state police are under the DPS |
| 07:23.26 | Shirik | I'm so confused |
| 07:23.41 | Thunder_Child | DMV is state, not federal |
| 07:24.00 | Thunder_Child | i think |
| 07:24.13 | Thunder_Child | which means that the states can do what they want |
| 07:24.22 | Shirik | right, I just thought that it was kinda a de-facto standard |
| 07:24.23 | Jerub | shrug. that's not the weirdest thing about american roads by far. |
| 07:24.23 | Thunder_Child | as long as they follow the federal guidlines |
| 07:24.27 | Dagmar | Well, the DPS here in TN doesn't have a damn thing to do with licences |
| 07:24.29 | Trela_ | DOT gives out licenses in many states. |
| 07:24.30 | Jerub | i hear in some places there aren't any speed limits. |
| 07:24.40 | Jerub | and in other places, there are speed limits but no one respects them! |
| 07:24.40 | Shirik | I thought it was the DMV that gave out licenses in all states |
| 07:24.41 | Jerub | madness. |
| 07:24.42 | Dagmar | Jerub: Those places would be outside the US |
| 07:24.56 | Shirik | Admittedly, I only thought this because I had never seen it different |
| 07:24.58 | Dagmar | Shirik: I did too, but I've only done it in CA and TN |
| 07:25.00 | Jerub | Dagmar: i hear americans eat puppies |
| 07:25.08 | Dagmar | Jerub: Only in Chinatown |
| 07:25.20 | Thunder_Child | well, not ONLY |
| 07:25.24 | Dagmar | Mainly |
| 07:25.42 | Dagmar | There's this little place near the coffee house I frequent that I have doubts about the origin of their kabobs |
| 07:25.59 | Dagmar | ...but I think that's cat, not dog. |
| 07:26.09 | Dagmar | Might be guinea pig. They're peruvian |
| 07:27.11 | Shirik | Jerub: True |
| 07:27.16 | Dagmar | Interesting. |
| 07:27.25 | Shirik | But at least we're not Canadian |
| 07:27.32 | Jerub | guinea pigs are too small to use as meat animals |
| 07:27.36 | Dagmar | At some point W7's compatibility whatevers must have gotten updated. It's made my WoW directory writeable by me |
| 07:27.40 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Shirik |
| 07:27.40 | purl | gives Shirik a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
| 07:28.06 | Dagmar | Hmm... writeable by Users even. Not what I want. Pfft. |
| 07:28.33 | Thunder_Child | another woot-off if anyone is interested |
| 07:28.41 | Dagmar | Hmm... I'll look. |
| 07:29.16 | Dagmar | Meh. Already bought a 1920x1080 monitor today. I should put the wallet away. |
| 07:29.23 | Dezzimal | anyone have an idea as to what might have caused debuff-type colored borders to disappear off of both grid and my shadowed unit frames? |
| 07:29.30 | Dezzimal | there is no border for any debuff icon :/ |
| 07:29.53 | Dezzimal | I've checked SUF and Grid both for a setting related to this |
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| 07:37.56 | bleeter | i guess i'm late to the party, but the 'new' mr t ad is fail |
| 07:38.28 | Thunder_Child | you're always late to the party |
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| 07:39.49 | bleeter | that's the problem with being future boy, have to wait for you guys to catch up n by then I'm all on to the next thing |
| 07:39.57 | bleeter | so I forget to stop 'n come back fer y'all |
| 07:41.51 | Dagmar | Looks like everyone else thinks it's a lark |
| 07:43.25 | Shirik | ~lark Dagmar |
| 07:43.50 | Dagmar | dances a merry jig with purl |
| 07:46.57 | Shirik | .... |
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| 08:13.03 | zenzio | "My fictionally perfect game that will sell WAY more than this title will have country-specific enemies. Marketed in the U.S? Russia. Marketed in Russia? U.S. Marketed in India? Pakistan. Marketed in Pakistan? Indians." |
| 08:13.08 | zenzio | "Why would Pakistanis want to play a game where the Cherokee on horse-back are the bad guys?" |
| 08:19.14 | Thunder_Child | maybe because they dont like the cherokee? |
| 08:19.28 | zenzio | good point |
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| 08:20.53 | Thunder_Child | http://kotaku.com/5406297/more-american-homes-play-wow-than-you-probably-think |
| 08:21.31 | Thunder_Child | i see 8 mice >.< |
| 08:21.39 | Thunder_Child | s/8/9/ |
| 08:21.57 | Thunder_Child | make that 10 |
| 08:22.35 | Fisker | you gotta be pretty fucked up if you can't afford a wow subscription |
| 08:28.50 | Dezzimal | anyone with a job can afford it |
| 08:29.10 | Dezzimal | its just afford isn't the right term for what happens when you decide to cancel due to financial stress |
| 08:29.21 | Dezzimal | $13/mo for me is about a weeks worth of food believe it or not >_> |
| 08:30.17 | Dezzimal | I don't cook too many extravagent things, one meal a day outside of cold cereal for breakfast |
| 08:31.11 | Dezzimal | Things would have to get pretty tight though for me to ever have to drop that subscription |
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| 09:14.14 | Shirik | tekkub: http://gizmodo.com/5405947/bacon+flavored-envelopes-your-bills-will-now-make-you-poor-and-fat |
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| 09:19.04 | Thunder_Child | i am amused that there is a United States House Select Committee on Assassinations |
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| 09:20.50 | Fisker | i am amuse that i'm killing you Thunder_Child |
| 09:22.39 | Shirik | night |
| 09:22.52 | Shirik | assassinates Fisker |
| 09:23.37 | Fisker | i love you Shirik |
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| 09:37.48 | amro | L4D2 won't lanuch. didn't see that one coming. |
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| 09:42.52 | Corrodias | why doesn't it launch? |
| 09:46.35 | amro | Corrodias: steam is above things such as error messages. It wouldn't decrypt. I just killed steam and tried again a few times, now it says decrypting |
| 09:48.34 | Corrodias | ah... yes, preloaded things like to make you restart steam, it seems |
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| 11:03.17 | Jerub | :( server shutdown. |
| 11:03.17 | Jerub | QQ |
| 11:07.57 | ZorbaTHut | every once in a while I'm really curious what the multi-hour shutdowns actually consist of them doing |
| 11:08.25 | Fisker | bam grenade launcher |
| 11:08.29 | ZorbaTHut | if they have scripts and automation I really don't see how a version bump would take eight hours, and I really really can't see them being dumb enough to *not* have scripts and automation |
| 11:10.07 | olafski | manual scripts! |
| 11:10.13 | olafski | "copy X to Y, replacing Y" |
| 11:10.24 | olafski | "change registry key Z to W" |
| 11:10.28 | olafski | "stop server" "restart server" |
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| 11:12.50 | Fisker | LOL |
| 11:12.51 | Fisker | nd also had to involve a 3rd party now which is in the processes of suing Blizzard. |
| 11:13.00 | Fisker | PPS: This incident is also published on several gaming fora to warn of the faulty and rude GM behaviours at Blizzard as of now. |
| 11:13.05 | Fisker | Know what his issue was? |
| 11:13.16 | Fisker | Server went down before he downed a boss and therefor couldn't complete the daily |
| 11:13.20 | Fisker | loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool |
| 11:13.52 | Fisker | eleventy bazillion dollar lawsuit |
| 11:13.52 | Fisker | gogo |
| 11:16.41 | Wobin | omg http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/funny-pictures-kittens-are-grey.jpg |
| 11:16.43 | zenzio | clearly Blizzard is ruining his gaming experience! |
| 11:17.00 | zenzio | Wobin: hehe |
| 11:17.36 | zenzio | our cat once had two kittens... one that was like those, the other was a real furball |
| 11:17.41 | zenzio | I could never figure that one out |
| 11:17.49 | zenzio | (in the same litter) |
| 11:20.00 | Torhal | Fisker: I will now sue you for eleventy bazillion liters of milk. |
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| 11:24.49 | Fisker | those kinda posts should just immediately result in account closure |
| 11:25.04 | Fisker | or atleast permanent forum ban |
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| 11:36.09 | Cairenn | what post is this? |
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| 11:40.38 | Wobin | http://www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/mandelbulb.html |
| 11:40.40 | Wobin | wow pretty |
| 11:40.44 | Wobin | (mathematically so =P) |
| 11:40.52 | Wobin | Shirik, ^ |
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| 12:09.17 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:09.35 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=11587049514&sid=1#7 Cairenn |
| 12:11.35 | Cairenn | offs |
| 12:12.56 | Jerub | ah. 2009. |
| 12:13.18 | Jerub | when a crappy old sidescroller video game that was popular on the megadrive becomes an epic blockbuster movie. |
| 12:17.35 | zenzio | and people wonder why tech support people aren't cherry happy people |
| 12:18.50 | Torhal | I'm pretty sure tech support people pioneered the fetal position. |
| 12:21.14 | Kalroth | Fisker: "3rd party is still in my hands if blizzard just wanna follow their own rules and admit they screwed up rather than cover it I can stop it but until then I cant do anything. " |
| 12:21.27 | Kalroth | Fisker: I GOT LAWYERS AND ILL USE THEM IF I DONT GET MY QUEST ITEM |
| 12:22.25 | Fisker | that is correct |
| 12:22.40 | cbreak | Tech Support people survive by making fun of users |
| 12:22.44 | cbreak | and mocking users |
| 12:22.45 | Fisker | btw Kalroth should i play tic-tac-toe on my ballot? |
| 12:22.48 | cbreak | considering users the enemy |
| 12:22.50 | cbreak | or similar |
| 12:23.05 | Kalroth | users aren't the enemy, users are stupid though |
| 12:24.41 | cbreak | I've seen a few users that were malicious |
| 12:24.51 | cbreak | like one who wanted "the text to be bigger" |
| 12:24.58 | Fisker | but should i play tic-tac-toe on the ballot Kalroth ? |
| 12:25.13 | Kalroth | Fisker: Depends, are you smaert enough to never win |
| 12:25.43 | Fisker | i'm smart enough to sabotage myself |
| 12:26.12 | cbreak | in the end, I had to change her PC to 150dpi (no idea why Windows has that as per-computer and not per-user setting), the resolution to 1024x768 (on a 22"!) |
| 12:26.21 | cbreak | and her fonts to ultrahuge |
| 12:26.38 | cbreak | and what did she do? She complained about it being blury! |
| 12:26.38 | cbreak | well of course... *grumble* |
| 12:30.56 | Fisker | takes cbreak and ties him up in a dugeon |
| 12:30.58 | Fisker | dungeon* |
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| 12:57.56 | Ancu | So hows everyone enjoying the wow down time? |
| 12:58.19 | Aelo | EU ftwwww :P |
| 12:58.32 | Ancu | Im sure you have a downtime too |
| 12:59.33 | Aelo | not atm |
| 13:00.40 | cbreak | the world is separated into the players and into their bug testers |
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| 13:02.04 | Ancu1 | Damnd dialup |
| 13:02.27 | Ancu1 | ~gohst ancu |
| 13:02.45 | Ancu1 | ~kik ancu |
| 13:02.59 | Ancu1 | GLARG! I want my nick back !!! |
| 13:03.08 | zenzio | /ns ghost Ancu yourpassword |
| 13:03.09 | cbreak | it's |
| 13:03.23 | Ancu1 | I dont have a password... |
| 13:03.25 | cbreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:03.34 | zenzio | then you need to wait until it times out on its own |
| 13:03.35 | cbreak | nickserv |
| 13:05.34 | Ancu1 | sigh. When I get my nick back I will register it... |
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| 13:10.55 | Ancu1 | So Zorba, I didnt get to read the change log. Whats new in 3 beta |
| 13:11.35 | ZorbaTHut | ancu, achievements, mostly. |
| 13:12.37 | Ancu1 | Realy? Just tracking? Or assistance? |
| 13:13.04 | theorbtwo | It treats them just like you'd hope questhelper would treat them. |
| 13:13.05 | Ancu1 | s/tracking/data_collection |
| 13:13.12 | ZorbaTHut | pretty much what theorbtwo just said :) |
| 13:13.24 | ancu | sweet |
| 13:13.33 | ancu | I didnt get to try it yesterday |
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| 13:14.16 | theorbtwo | Speaking of, ZorbaTHut, where does the Weight square array in routing_core come from? |
| 13:14.36 | ZorbaTHut | theorb, it's part of ant routing - that's the "trail strength" that ant routing uses as its critical heuristic |
| 13:14.40 | ZorbaTHut | basically, it comes from itself :P |
| 13:15.37 | theorbtwo | Ah. Er... right. |
| 13:15.52 | theorbtwo | In that case, where does the priority menu stuff go? |
| 13:16.35 | ZorbaTHut | you're going to be feel dumb, but search routing_core for "priority" |
| 13:16.41 | ZorbaTHut | *-be |
| 13:22.55 | Aelo | woah, 5 shammy multiboxer with 2063 5v5 rating :P |
| 13:23.30 | Raws | Whhhaaaaaat |
| 13:23.40 | Raws | How can a human keep up with five characters at once |
| 13:24.20 | Aelo | lol that "whaaaat" reminded me of chris griffin off family guy |
| 13:24.49 | Raws | nnnooooo |
| 13:27.47 | ZorbaTHut | raws, it might not have to, with 5 shamans you just do something ridiculous with bursting targets down |
| 13:28.04 | Raws | I guess so |
| 13:28.07 | ZorbaTHut | if they're not prepared to deal with that kind of synchronization you could pretty much flatten 'em |
| 13:28.11 | Raws | Still, it boggles my mind |
| 13:28.36 | ZorbaTHut | alternatively, proper macro support might make it really easy to CC their entire group at once :D |
| 13:28.41 | Aelo | gotta have quite some machine to run all 5 at once :P |
| 13:28.41 | nevcairiel | wonder if you can manage to walk as exactly one, in the same spot =P |
| 13:28.45 | Raws | blol |
| 13:28.51 | ZorbaTHut | aelo, nah, WoW's a pushover |
| 13:29.13 | nevcairiel | WoW doesnt require much if it doesnt draw gfx |
| 13:29.25 | nevcairiel | or only very reduced gfx |
| 13:32.10 | Aelo | what would be the best way to mute all current sound and play only my sound? |
| 13:32.23 | Aelo | temporarily set sound volume to 0 and hook PlayMusic? |
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| 13:50.56 | Crucifor1er | 'lo everyone |
| 13:52.45 | Cruciformer | does anyone here have any experience using scrollframes? I'm having a bit of a time with them and wanted to look at a working sample. |
| 14:00.52 | zenzio | sadly I don't. Pity you weren't here (I think) a few days ago, they had a big discussion about scroll frames |
| 14:00.59 | zenzio | vs. fauxscrollframes and stuff |
| 14:01.14 | nevcairiel | we just said that both suck |
| 14:01.44 | zenzio | yes, but you said it in a very thorough and elaborate way |
| 14:02.03 | Cruciformer | well fauxscrollframe doesnt do what I need, I need to use "raw" scroll frames. |
| 14:02.51 | Cruciformer | I was hoping it would be as simple as create a container frame, create a scrollframe parented to that, create a child frame parented to the scrollframe |
| 14:03.21 | Legorol | scrollframes make baby kittens cry |
| 14:03.25 | Cruciformer | then set teh child frame's size, and then I could, if I wanted to skip the top 100 pixels of the child frame, use something like scrollframe:SetVerticalScroll (100) |
| 14:03.29 | Lopeppeppy | For serious. |
| 14:04.36 | Cruciformer | no cat talk, I lost my precious baby a week ago :~~( |
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| 14:05.09 | zenzio | aw :( |
| 14:05.43 | Cruciformer | it kills me still. each time I open teh frige I expect to hear her coming in meowing for ham :~( |
| 14:06.05 | Lopeppeppy | *hugs* |
| 14:06.18 | Cruciformer | ty Lopeppeppy |
| 14:07.20 | Lopeppeppy | I couldn't have a quiet house like yours, I'd be at the pound the very next day, I truly would. |
| 14:07.43 | zenzio | what Cruciformer needs is a new handheld device: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/11/13/funny-pictures-warning-2/ |
| 14:08.01 | zenzio | I agree with peppy, a quiet house feels wrong |
| 14:08.15 | Cruciformer | The thing is though, it would be unfair to any new cat coming in to my home. I'd be constantly expting her to behave like tammy or to have the same closeness. I need to get over and forget tammy more before I can get a replacement. |
| 14:08.29 | Lopeppeppy | That's fair. |
| 14:08.58 | Cruciformer | the bond I had with tammy was absolutely uncanny. Closer than with most humans. |
| 14:09.04 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a two-cat person, so I wouldn't have the same expectations of a new cat. They come home and they introduce themselves, we see how things go. |
| 14:09.10 | Ancu | Ich bin doom (forgive my bad spelling) |
| 14:09.24 | Lopeppeppy | I almost bonded Mooseling to the ceiling this morning, I don't expect that counts much. |
| 14:09.37 | zenzio | Lopeppeppy: how come? |
| 14:10.50 | Fisker | oh my |
| 14:10.51 | Lopeppeppy | Such a very long list. She basically put on her Captain Psycho pants and did everything she could to annoy me. Ate toothpaste, knocked over the bathroom trash and tried to eat the trashcan, jumped on Rosie's kennel and howled like a deranged rooster-cat, stood between me and the mirror when I was getting ready, etc. |
| 14:11.04 | Fisker | this guy has paid atleast £400 over the years to Blizzard |
| 14:11.13 | zenzio | Lopeppeppy: so what you're saying is, she was being a cat |
| 14:11.13 | Fisker | and he's hit the "hidden restoration limit" |
| 14:11.17 | Fisker | I smell lawsuit |
| 14:11.35 | Lopeppeppy | She was being an aggravating proto-slipper. |
| 14:11.42 | Cruciformer | I smell quick dismissal of lawsuit saying: read the TOS and EULA :) |
| 14:11.50 | mitch0 | wtf is the "hidden restoration limit"? |
| 14:11.51 | zenzio | Fisker: "hidden restoration limit"? |
| 14:11.58 | Lopeppeppy | "hidden" my ass, they tell you every time that restorations are a privilege, not a right, and not guaranteed. |
| 14:12.23 | Lopeppeppy | After just so long, they decide you're an idiot and won't waste time restoring the items you delete, "lose" or otherwise DE out of stupidity. |
| 14:12.41 | zenzio | there's no more "hidden restoration limit" than there is a "hidden moonkin limit" |
| 14:13.01 | Cruciformer | My current beef with blizzard is about server transfering a toon with lotsa gold. I understand why they do it, to foil goldfarmers, but Icompletely legitimately have 43K gold and my max I can transfer is 20K, and I dont have any alts. |
| 14:13.15 | Lopeppeppy | It's their game, their limits. |
| 14:13.38 | zenzio | I think they just forget that they've made acquiring gold very easy |
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| 14:14.12 | Legorol | if they have, i didn't notice :( |
| 14:14.17 | Cruciformer | zenzio: I agree. It would be nice if legitimate users weren't penalised by goldfarmers activities. |
| 14:14.25 | Legorol | i still don't get gold whilst logged out |
| 14:14.26 | Legorol | ducks |
| 14:14.35 | Legorol | Cruciformer: that's why we hates them |
| 14:14.38 | Lopeppeppy | aims a stale donut at Legorol's head |
| 14:14.44 | zenzio | http://failblog.org/2009/11/17/cookie-sheet-fai/ -- even I wouldn't do this |
| 14:14.47 | Legorol | their activities impact us in direct and not so direct ways |
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| 14:21.37 | Bruners | is there a permanent fix for the DivxDecoder.dll bullshit with wow and wine ? |
| 14:22.49 | olafski | wait for it...... :) |
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| 14:23.59 | olafski | dang, nobody? :( |
| 14:25.20 | Lopeppeppy | I'm afraid you'll have to make your own jokes, this early in the morning. |
| 14:25.43 | olafski | timezones are a thing of the past apparently |
| 14:26.13 | zenzio | try telling your boss that |
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| 14:26.50 | olafski | if I had a boss I wouldn't be here in the middle of the day ,) |
| 14:27.12 | zenzio | then you voided your own statement |
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| 14:35.46 | Aelo | anyone know of a backdrop texture that's 100% alpha and just 1 colour for using SetBackdropColor ? |
| 14:36.27 | Fisker | :3 |
| 14:38.07 | zenzio | what are you trying to do? |
| 14:38.26 | Aelo | just set a black background, but i made a texture instead now :P |
| 14:38.34 | Aelo | and SetTexture(0,0,0,1) |
| 14:38.36 | zenzio | that's what I'd do |
| 14:41.20 | Cide | SetTexture(1,1,1) SetVertexColor(0,0,0) |
| 15:02.06 | cog|away | wtb rolling restarts |
| 15:04.11 | Lopeppeppy | They did those yesterday. |
| 15:05.08 | cbreak | why rolling? |
| 15:05.29 | cbreak | it would be much more fun to boot all servers at the same time. I wonder what the peek current in the datacenter would be :) |
| 15:06.45 | Cide | probably lower since the servers are rebooting? |
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| 15:07.23 | Cide | oh, my attempt at sarcasm fails |
| 15:07.29 | Cide | I read current users |
| 15:10.31 | Wobin | http://www.lamebook.com/twilight-saga-twilite |
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| 15:24.29 | Ackis | Fisker: LFD2 and AC2 out today |
| 15:25.28 | olafski | :D |
| 15:25.42 | olafski | 3 more days for europe / AC2 |
| 15:25.45 | olafski | mine was shipped today :> |
| 15:26.16 | Ackis | gf is going to get our AC2 CE this morning after class, the figure looks kinda neat IMO |
| 15:27.36 | Lopeppeppy | What is this ACDC 3PO? |
| 15:27.57 | Aelo | is there only 1 light source per model frame? :P |
| 15:29.09 | olafski | it does indeed ackis :) |
| 15:29.26 | Ackis | are you getting it on PC or console? |
| 15:29.47 | olafski | console of course |
| 15:29.55 | olafski | I don't buy pc games :) |
| 15:29.59 | Ackis | heh |
| 15:30.10 | olafski | last pc game I bought was wow |
| 15:30.27 | Ackis | I'm doing an achievement on the xbox that will take me 111 hours approx |
| 15:30.31 | olafski | oO |
| 15:30.34 | Ackis | I'm 60ish hours into it |
| 15:30.43 | olafski | you decided to get DOAX2? ;) |
| 15:31.01 | olafski | or is this that insane achievement in that zombie game |
| 15:31.04 | olafski | "stay alive for 7 days" or something |
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| 15:31.20 | Ackis | nah my gf won't let me get DOAX2 :( |
| 15:31.21 | Ackis | http://www.trueachievements.com/a38334/solid-gold-achievement.htm |
| 15:31.34 | olafski | be glad |
| 15:31.39 | olafski | doax2 sucks so bad there are no words for it |
| 15:32.12 | olafski | I'm just glad I didn't get any achievements for it so I could remove it from my played games list |
| 15:32.14 | Ackis | it has e-boobies tho |
| 15:32.41 | olafski | yeah that was interesting for maybe 15 minutes |
| 15:32.43 | olafski | but the minigames are HORRIBLE |
| 15:32.50 | olafski | and the achievements too ;) |
| 15:33.04 | Ackis | do the achievements involve playing with e-boobies? |
| 15:33.12 | olafski | nein |
| 15:33.23 | olafski | they involve "buy all outfits for character X" as "first tier achievements" so to say |
| 15:33.36 | Ackis | ah |
| 15:33.39 | olafski | then the other achievements are "make X friends with character Y" |
| 15:33.46 | olafski | where making a friend is defined as "buy all her outfits" :P |
| 15:33.50 | olafski | so you have to buy buy buy buy buy buy |
| 15:33.59 | olafski | there used to be an easy way to make money apparently but they patched that out |
| 15:34.24 | cbreak | american game? |
| 15:34.34 | olafski | the only sort of playable minigames are pool hopping and jetski racing or something |
| 15:34.44 | olafski | the beach volleyball itself sucks :P |
| 15:34.46 | olafski | no idea cbreak :) |
| 15:35.10 | olafski | the models appear to have more polygons than an average halo 3 map though |
| 15:35.25 | Ackis | I wonder how many polygons were invested in teh boobies |
| 15:35.35 | olafski | =) |
| 15:35.40 | olafski | all of it is pretty round |
| 15:35.44 | olafski | but seriously that game is uber boring |
| 15:35.53 | olafski | don't think I managed to play it more than 30 minutes, even while drunk |
| 15:36.04 | olafski | it was only 10 euro though so not that much is lost |
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| 15:38.48 | cbreak | fun. SSL based encryption is now sometimes vulnerable to MitM |
| 15:39.05 | olafski | damn you MitM! |
| 15:39.17 | nevcairiel | "now" until fixed, anyway |
| 15:39.31 | nevcairiel | on another note, the big bang theory was so awesome this week |
| 15:39.31 | cbreak | yes. |
| 15:39.38 | cbreak | how ever long that takes |
| 15:39.55 | theorbtwo | The Gituarist Amplifier? |
| 15:40.54 | nevcairiel | The Adhesive Duck Deficiency |
| 15:42.02 | theorbtwo | Oooh, I haven't seen that one. |
| 15:42.10 | nevcairiel | just aired last night |
| 15:42.50 | olafski | gonna watch it at dinner :> |
| 15:43.18 | olafski | bah why do I bother leveling in ashenvale |
| 15:43.28 | nevcairiel | hope you can eat while laughing |
| 15:43.38 | olafski | that won't be a problem |
| 15:43.46 | olafski | I can eat while doing anything |
| 15:43.48 | olafski | is a pro eater |
| 15:44.01 | olafski | I laughed my guts out on family guy yesterday though :P |
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| 15:46.29 | Ackis | A 6.5 magnitude earthquake has struck off the coast of British Columbia. No further details immediately available. |
| 15:46.31 | Ackis | w00t |
| 15:47.04 | Ackis | did william shatner die? |
| 15:47.06 | Lopeppeppy | Milkshakes all around!! |
| 15:47.11 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, be nice. |
| 15:47.18 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: serious question |
| 15:48.19 | olafski | not according to wikipedia (yet) |
| 15:48.35 | Ackis | it must've been a very realistic dream then... odd |
| 15:50.09 | nevcairiel | you dream weird things |
| 15:50.38 | Ackis | nevcairiel: do you want to know how many times you've appeared in my dreams? |
| 15:50.49 | Ackis | just for the record, you don't wax your chest nor wear diapers right? |
| 15:50.54 | nevcairiel | did i survie them? |
| 15:51.03 | nevcairiel | *survive |
| 15:51.15 | nevcairiel | good that i don't remember my dreams :P |
| 15:51.28 | Ackis | i usually don't |
| 15:55.18 | zenzelezz | I hate websites that don't just spit out an error, but instead redirect you to an error page; so you sit there refreshing like an idiot before you notice you're just reloading the error page |
| 15:57.05 | zenzelezz | <nevcairiel> you dream weird things <-- when I started playing WoW, I woke up one day wondering how I had lost a couple of levels and items. Turns out I just had a very convincing dream about playing... |
| 16:00.43 | Fisker | During Diablo 2's primetime in my summer vacation i had dreams about cow level runs |
| 16:01.02 | Fisker | and every drop was good stuff |
| 16:01.40 | olafski | I've dreamt about wow, d2 and CS too |
| 16:01.42 | olafski | fun times |
| 16:01.46 | olafski | mostly it's when I have a fever |
| 16:01.51 | zenzelezz | at the same time? |
| 16:02.03 | olafski | no |
| 16:02.20 | Ackis | in one of my university classes we were having a lot of lectures about rational numbers, p / q... I had a dream where flying P's and Q's were attacking me :( |
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| 16:07.58 | Apsrk | bah |
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| 16:25.51 | Cide | Ackis: fail. |
| 16:27.04 | kdtresh | is that an order? |
| 16:27.50 | Kraps | "Customer got a woman's depends instead of men's" ow thats cold |
| 16:28.17 | Lopeppeppy | Deos make a difference. |
| 16:28.39 | kdtresh | i'll take your word for it |
| 16:29.28 | Lopeppeppy | baby diapers are sold in boy and girl too, kdtresh. The focus of the stream is a bit different. Front versus center down. |
| 16:29.29 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 16:30.09 | kdtresh | i buy "#5 diapers" for my little guy, i don't see any mention of gender |
| 16:30.23 | nevcairiel | they come in blue or pink |
| 16:30.31 | Kraps | i love when you talk dirty peppy |
| 16:30.38 | kdtresh | or white with disney characters on them, lol |
| 16:31.08 | Kraps | please dont kill me |
| 16:33.46 | Lopeppeppy | Murders are scheduled for Thursday, just make sure you're not around then. |
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| 16:36.36 | Kraps | done |
| 16:39.09 | Ackis | fails all over Cide's face. |
| 16:42.03 | zenzelezz | prematurely? |
| 16:42.43 | Ackis | never! |
| 16:45.06 | Ackis | "this is in place of the daily Heroic dungeon quests which are being replaced with weekly raid dungeon quests" <-- what is happening to the achievements that you got for doing the daily dungeon quests? |
| 16:46.35 | Lopeppeppy | Ded dead? |
| 16:48.41 | Ackis | huh? |
| 16:49.28 | Lopeppeppy | D-E-D. Dead. No more of that achievement, I would guess. |
| 16:49.51 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 16:50.51 | ZorbaTHut | ackis, turned into a feat of strength, as is usual with decommissioned achievements |
| 16:51.02 | Ackis | ZorbaTHut: 4 realz? |
| 16:51.05 | ZorbaTHut | yup |
| 16:52.06 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Shirik dear. |
| 16:56.49 | Kraps | " Jason kooking into it " nerknerk |
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| 17:01.45 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure if I'm doing things wrong or not, but it seems my rogue companion has almost become a better tank than my templar companion |
| 17:02.48 | Ackis | probably are |
| 17:02.53 | Ackis | not surprising though |
| 17:03.45 | Cide- | ur doin it rong |
| 17:04.16 | zenzelezz | that's what she said :( |
| 17:04.29 | durcyn | taunt/threaten are useless in DA |
| 17:04.39 | durcyn | might as well just evasion-tank everything |
| 17:06.12 | Ackis | References to Canada as "America's Hat" are frowned upon. The correct terminology is "Gateway to Alaska." |
| 17:06.41 | Ackis | how many states are in the US? 50 or 51? |
| 17:06.48 | amro | people go to alaska? |
| 17:07.02 | Kraps | Ackis: 57 |
| 17:07.09 | Ackis | :P |
| 17:07.22 | Kraps | :p |
| 17:07.34 | durcyn | Ackis: fix IHML already, chump |
| 17:07.51 | Ackis | you gotta tell me what's broken to fix it eh? |
| 17:08.12 | durcyn | the bigwigs integration |
| 17:08.31 | durcyn | imagine my surprise when i deleted ace2 and ihml exploded trying to reference acelibrary |
| 17:09.22 | Ackis | hmm i might have to take a look at that |
| 17:09.56 | amro | IHML... is that for "I Hate My Life"? |
| 17:12.18 | Kraps | Ackis: many people make the 52 mistake: 50 + AK and HI |
| 17:12.54 | Ackis | really? I knew it was 50 or 51 |
| 17:13.13 | durcyn | it's only been 50 for as many years |
| 17:13.14 | Ackis | only reason I get confused is because of the joke "Canada is the 51st state" so it gets clouded in my mind |
| 17:13.35 | durcyn | and our little taxation-without-representation empire in central america doesn't want to join up officially |
| 17:15.37 | Kraps | durcyn: whats that? |
| 17:15.53 | cog|work | puerto rico? |
| 17:16.30 | Ackis | you americans are crazy :P |
| 17:16.36 | Kraps | thought so, but why wont they join? |
| 17:16.58 | cog|work | ~seen mentalpower |
| 17:17.00 | purl | mentalpower <n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 12d 15h 49m 57s ago, saying: 'crowd would also mean ditching vanilla for auth, which I'm not sure about'. |
| 17:17.53 | Kraps | Ackis: relative to what? |
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| 17:18.23 | Ackis | normal people :P |
| 17:18.45 | Lopeppeppy | What is a normal? |
| 17:18.49 | durcyn | Kraps: puerto rico, costa rica, guam, take your pick |
| 17:20.21 | Kraps | Ackis: dont make me get my European Haterade :p |
| 17:20.25 | cog|work | ... costa rica? |
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| 17:20.56 | cog|work | and i wouldn't call guam central america... |
| 17:21.41 | Ackis | Kraps: EU's are normaler than yanks :P |
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| 17:22.18 | cog|work | actually, if we're talking numbers, impoverished indians and chinese are much more normal than any of us... |
| 17:22.42 | Ackis | go back to your corner cog|work :P |
| 17:22.58 | cog|work | my corner isn't up atm |
| 17:23.02 | amro | cog|work: I think the factor in question here is sanity |
| 17:23.12 | amro | americans are crazy relative to... less crazy people |
| 17:23.38 | Ackis | on a side note: http://digg.com/playable_web_games/Dragon_Age_Journeys_Amazing_Flash_RPG_from_Bioware_EA2D digg that, whatever digging something means :P |
| 17:23.40 | cog|work | truism is true |
| 17:23.40 | cog|work | :P |
| 17:24.19 | Kraps | Ackis: sure sure, whatever you say, mr conglomerate union of FAIL :P |
| 17:24.29 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sooooo sleepy. |
| 17:24.36 | cog|work | ^ |
| 17:24.36 | Ackis | I'm not in a union :( |
| 17:24.42 | Ackis | I'm in Canada! :D |
| 17:24.50 | Ackis | home to beavers, hockey and eh! |
| 17:25.29 | Ackis | apparently we had the worlds third largest navy at the end of WW2 |
| 17:25.34 | amro | Ackis: and delicious breakfasts |
| 17:26.06 | Kraps | Ackis: now you tell me, i cant hate canada :p |
| 17:27.17 | Ackis | Kraps: I've made no secret that I'm Canadian, I thought everyone knew? :P |
| 17:27.30 | Ackis | http://www.infoplease.com/world/statistics/2008-transparency-international-corruption-perceptions.html interesting chart IMO, corruption levels in countries |
| 17:29.38 | KarlKFI|work | that's like a bribability index. lower the score, the further your money goes. |
| 17:29.59 | Kraps | so if canada is our younger sibling, mexico is that cousin that you hope will move out very, very soon |
| 17:30.03 | KarlKFI|work | they should cross refrence it with currency trading |
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| 17:31.01 | amro | Kraps: you mean the cousin that you exploit to do all your chores in exchange for sleeping on the couch |
| 17:31.54 | Kraps | amro: except that its not worth it anymore |
| 17:32.15 | zenzelezz | of course Mexicans keep coming to the US when you name a state "New Mexico" |
| 17:32.26 | Lopeppeppy | basement cat and ceiling cat are watching house cat sunbathe |
| 17:33.55 | amro | Kraps: hey, not all mexicans are in the US illegally. many have just as much right to be 'worth it' as you |
| 17:33.58 | Lopeppeppy | Someone's gonna get pounced. |
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| 17:34.32 | Kraps | amro: i'm obviously not talking about those |
| 17:34.55 | amro | then you should be less general in your statements |
| 17:35.52 | Ackis | now now, lets go back to making fun on the yanks, not the beeners or canucks |
| 17:36.07 | Shirik | it is impossible to not make fun of canucks |
| 17:36.41 | Ackis | i'm surprised no one is yelling at me for using the term yanks |
| 17:36.53 | Ackis | I called someone who lived in arizona a yankee and almost had my head chewed off |
| 17:37.01 | Kraps | hehe |
| 17:37.08 | Shirik | that's different |
| 17:37.13 | Ackis | I guess being on the southern border of the US doesn't make you a "southerner" |
| 17:37.27 | Shirik | no |
| 17:37.31 | Shirik | wait |
| 17:37.32 | Shirik | what? |
| 17:37.36 | Shirik | yanks are northerners |
| 17:37.44 | Ackis | wait wot? |
| 17:37.45 | Ackis | really? |
| 17:37.49 | Shirik | Dude |
| 17:37.52 | Shirik | Where are the yankees? |
| 17:37.53 | Ackis | shrugs |
| 17:37.55 | Shirik | New york! |
| 17:37.56 | Ackis | new york |
| 17:37.59 | Ackis | that's south to me dude |
| 17:38.01 | Ackis | :P |
| 17:38.03 | Shirik | no |
| 17:38.09 | Shirik | ok |
| 17:38.09 | Shirik | fine |
| 17:38.12 | Shirik | New york is the south |
| 17:38.16 | Ackis | <-- I'm in Canada |
| 17:38.19 | Shirik | and you're at the north pole |
| 17:38.20 | nevcairiel | short of alaska everything in the US is south to you |
| 17:38.22 | Shirik | ok? |
| 17:38.26 | Ackis | nevcairiel: exactly |
| 17:38.32 | Shirik | Go say hi to santa for me |
| 17:38.40 | Shirik | tell him I want a new lens |
| 17:38.45 | Ackis | I will, I'll tell him you want coal too! |
| 17:38.51 | Kraps | Canada, north pole, same difference |
| 17:39.16 | Kraps | Ackis: what city? |
| 17:39.21 | Ackis | Edmonton |
| 17:39.47 | Ackis | waits for the "holy fuck that's far north" comment. |
| 17:40.15 | Shirik | TC-Away: I can't decide between 70-200 f/2.8L IS and 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS |
| 17:40.15 | Kraps | i dunno |
| 17:40.20 | Kraps | i need a map |
| 17:40.45 | Kraps | i know its more in the center |
| 17:40.58 | Shirik | If I get the former then I have the benefit of f/2.8 all the way through to 200 and then can buy an extender to hit 400 later |
| 17:41.02 | Ackis | you mean centre right? |
| 17:41.22 | Lopeppeppy | ~lart Ackis |
| 17:41.22 | purl | gives Ackis an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending Ackis to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple |
| 17:42.24 | Kraps | what kind of word is cheque anyway? |
| 17:42.27 | Shirik | Where is Lunessa |
| 17:42.29 | Shirik | Kraps: Not a word |
| 17:42.36 | Lopeppeppy | Has a migraine today. |
| 17:42.47 | Ackis | americans don't use cheque? |
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| 17:42.55 | Kraps | Shirik: inorite |
| 17:42.56 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, no. |
| 17:42.57 | Lopeppeppy | check. |
| 17:43.07 | amro | Lopeppeppy: I've seen it used in the US |
| 17:43.07 | Ackis | we use both |
| 17:43.14 | amro | both cheque and check |
| 17:43.17 | Ackis | cheque == bank cheque |
| 17:43.21 | Ackis | check == checkmark |
| 17:43.32 | Ackis | Kraps == penis |
| 17:43.34 | Ackis | :D |
| 17:43.39 | Ackis | ~rlart |
| 17:43.40 | purl | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on wereHamster |
| 17:45.27 | Shirik | no |
| 17:45.28 | Shirik | check |
| 17:45.37 | Shirik | cheque is "check, k?" |
| 17:45.53 | Shirik | oh! |
| 17:45.56 | Shirik | that's why they call it checkque |
| 17:45.59 | Shirik | it's "Check, eh?" |
| 17:46.17 | Kaso | wut? |
| 17:46.18 | amro | except the british call it cheque too |
| 17:46.23 | Shirik | nah |
| 17:46.25 | amro | ~fail Shirik |
| 17:46.26 | purl | Shirik, you Fail! |
| 17:46.27 | Shirik | they got invaded by Canada |
| 17:46.34 | Kaso | yeah, check and cheque are pronounced the same |
| 17:46.38 | Kaso | like cash and cache |
| 17:46.45 | Shirik | no it's check kay |
| 17:47.14 | amro | then how do you pronounce chequing account? |
| 17:47.22 | Shirik | you don't |
| 17:47.26 | Shirik | you pronounce checking account |
| 17:47.57 | Kraps | do canadas really say "eh?"? |
| 17:48.06 | amro | there's only one canada |
| 17:48.17 | amro | it's pretty big, we'd notice if there were two. |
| 17:48.20 | Kaso | look, you "nitch" and "click" pronouncing Americans shouldn't really be commenting on people's pronunciations :p |
| 17:48.48 | Ackis | eh sometimes we say eh |
| 17:48.52 | Kraps | Kaso: was that an insult? cuz i dont get it :p |
| 17:49.17 | Lopeppeppy | What about cash? (cache) |
| 17:49.26 | Kaso | clique and niche, you pronouce them very wrong |
| 17:50.52 | Kraps | its not nitch, its nish with a tiny ch |
| 17:51.17 | Ackis | isn't it nEEsh? |
| 17:51.19 | Shirik | wtf is clique "supposed" to be pronounced like? |
| 17:51.29 | Shirik | cleeek? |
| 17:51.32 | Kaso | yes |
| 17:51.35 | Shirik | wtf |
| 17:51.36 | Shirik | no |
| 17:51.38 | Shirik | gtfo |
| 17:51.52 | Kaso | it frustrates me everytime i have to use the addon clique, cos the pun doesnt work in british :( |
| 17:51.55 | Shirik | omg someone solve my lens dillemma |
| 17:52.01 | Shirik | where is TC / Iriel when I need them |
| 17:52.07 | Kraps | Ackis: yeah thats right |
| 17:52.22 | Lopeppeppy | Iriel is asleeeeeeeeping! |
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| 17:52.37 | Lopeppeppy | ~seen TC-Away |
| 17:52.40 | purl | tc-away is currently on #wowuidev (1d 18h 36m 4s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 1d 18h 2m 35s, last said: 'nvm'. |
| 17:52.50 | KarlKFI|work | long sleep |
| 17:53.05 | industrial | hehe, this is a funny guy; http://www.selfcontrolfreak.com/follow/ |
| 17:53.14 | industrial | http://www.selfcontrolfreak.com/ |
| 17:55.26 | Ancu | So we escaped a patch for another week |
| 17:55.40 | Lopeppeppy | Surprised? |
| 17:56.06 | KarlKFI|work | so i have a window now in my office, but it's bolted shut |
| 17:56.08 | KarlKFI|work | sad |
| 17:56.10 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm more surprised anyone thought there WOULD be one. |
| 17:56.18 | Lopeppeppy | Did they install one, or move your office? |
| 17:56.22 | NightHawkTheSane | KarlKFI|work: sounds like you have some rennovations to do. |
| 17:56.57 | KarlKFI|work | i moved. yeah i might have to bring in one of the two pronged screwdriver things |
| 17:57.17 | Lopeppeppy | Creative monkey is creative. |
| 17:58.22 | Shirik | woot |
| 17:58.25 | Shirik | I'm a graduate again |
| 17:58.30 | Shirik | does that mean I can leave school? |
| 17:59.15 | Lopeppeppy | ... not yet, my young padawn. |
| 17:59.49 | Shirik | hmm |
| 17:59.55 | Shirik | U.S. History or History of Aviation in America? |
| 18:00.23 | Lopeppeppy | I'll take general US History for 300, Alex. |
| 18:01.21 | amro | Shirik: the latter |
| 18:01.25 | Shirik | I'm already taking SS333 - US-Asian Relations |
| 18:01.27 | amro | general US history is boring |
| 18:01.43 | Lopeppeppy | Only if you learn the stuff they get wrong. |
| 18:02.01 | Shirik | SS_395HH_01DB (145053) Creative Intelligence |
| 18:02.02 | Shirik | wtf is that o.o |
| 18:02.25 | Shirik | I hate x9x courses |
| 18:02.41 | Shirik | they never have a description online, and the catalog doesn't show them because they aren't normal courses |
| 18:02.44 | Lopeppeppy | Bad rubric at your school? |
| 18:02.57 | Shirik | ? |
| 18:03.11 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry, speaking catalogese. |
| 18:03.17 | Lopeppeppy | edits the college catalog for her school |
| 18:03.46 | Lopeppeppy | Those are special topic courses, they change so often they don't bother giving them descriptions. Here they don't have numbering rules, they can show up anywhere in the department. |
| 18:04.08 | Kraps | have any of you been to new zealand? (dunno how to spell :/ ) |
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| 18:05.53 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:05.58 | Fisker | yarr harr |
| 18:06.30 | Shirik | Yeah fortunately, special topics always are x9x |
| 18:06.32 | Shirik | but |
| 18:06.40 | Shirik | wtf they are, how am I supposed to know |
| 18:06.47 | Shirik | or my favorite one |
| 18:06.53 | Shirik | SS_399_01DB (145805) Special Tpcs in Social Science |
| 18:06.55 | Shirik | Yes, thanks |
| 18:08.50 | Fisker | i'm holding you personally responsible Shirik |
| 18:08.54 | Shirik | k |
| 18:09.01 | cog|work | ms are coming up |
| 18:09.12 | cog|work | s/ms/realms/ |
| 18:09.12 | Fisker | the pirate bay is closing down :o |
| 18:09.43 | Shirik | really? |
| 18:10.11 | Fisker | yarr |
| 18:10.56 | Shirik | yarrrr |
| 18:11.05 | Fisker | yarrr |
| 18:11.56 | Lopeppeppy | There are plenty of other places besides TPB. |
| 18:12.04 | Shirik | return "ya"..("r"):rep(1/0) |
| 18:12.11 | Fisker | i never used TPB |
| 18:12.39 | Fisker | also they're just shutting down because the tracker is pointless now they have DHT and PEX |
| 18:12.53 | Ackis | DHT PEX? |
| 18:13.16 | Fisker | can't remember wtf dht stands for but PEX = Peer EXchange |
| 18:13.42 | Ackis | ah torrent sites basically |
| 18:14.07 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 18:15.13 | Kraps | warez-bb.org + rapidshare = epicality |
| 18:16.09 | NightHawkTheSane | DHT is distributed hash table |
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| 18:25.27 | Shirik | ~lart Night |
| 18:25.27 | purl | wallops Night with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
| 18:25.28 | Shirik | ~lart NightHawkTheSane |
| 18:25.29 | purl | overclocks NightHawkTheSane until NightHawkTheSane burns out |
| 18:26.09 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww. |
| 18:27.28 | Kraps | for all of wow.com's faults, the "ask a faction leader" feature is pretty darn good |
| 18:33.55 | amro | "*Please don't reply to this Email addrres." <- from a language learning website that focuses on correcting mistakes |
| 18:34.13 | Dotted | [Fisker]: i never used TPB <- liar liar pants on fire! |
| 18:38.35 | Ackis | http://twlol.com/tw/?v7-30236 <-- anyone else find that video erotic? :P (SFW) |
| 18:42.18 | Ackis | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/funny-pictures-kittens-are-grey.jpg I want |
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| 19:01.12 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, we were all wrong |
| 19:02.25 | Shirik | Apparently I am a graduate student that doesn't exist |
| 19:02.49 | Lopeppeppy | That could be awkward for spring courses. |
| 19:02.50 | krka | we wish! |
| 19:02.54 | Lopeppeppy | Why do you not exist this time? |
| 19:02.57 | Lopeppeppy | krka, be nice! |
| 19:02.59 | Shirik | Degree Navigator was unable to locate your student account. Please contact your academic advisor. |
| 19:03.00 | Shirik | Please try again or contact your system administrator. |
| 19:03.05 | krka | aww |
| 19:03.08 | Shirik | This school is so confused about me |
| 19:03.11 | krka | being nice is for wednesdays |
| 19:03.24 | Lopeppeppy | You had issues with online registration at least once before. |
| 19:03.29 | Shirik | Some days it says I'm a Senior, some days it says I'm a graduate student, and some days it says I don't have grades because I'm an instructor |
| 19:03.38 | Shirik | online registration was broken before because of other things :P |
| 19:03.44 | Shirik | Like the fact that I've never taken Calculus 1 |
| 19:04.47 | Shirik | omg and now web registration is soooooo slooooooow |
| 19:04.56 | Shirik | I blame the fact that it was written in perl |
| 19:05.01 | Lopeppeppy | Welcome to registering during peak times! |
| 19:05.08 | Shirik | not peak times! |
| 19:05.10 | Shirik | I'm two weeks late! |
| 19:05.30 | Lopeppeppy | Doofus. *smack* |
| 19:05.33 | Shirik | ProgramM Software Engineering |
| 19:05.35 | Shirik | Standing N/A |
| 19:05.37 | Lopeppeppy | So is everyone else, unfortunately |
| 19:05.37 | Shirik | what? |
| 19:05.46 | Lopeppeppy | Late to register? |
| 19:06.07 | Shirik | no |
| 19:06.12 | Shirik | I mean why does it say my standing is N/A now |
| 19:06.17 | Shirik | this morning it said I was a graduate |
| 19:06.29 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe it zeroes out people who are late? |
| 19:06.35 | kdtresh | did you forget to pay the alumni association? |
| 19:06.44 | Shirik | I'm not "late late" |
| 19:06.49 | Shirik | I just didn't register right when I could |
| 19:06.58 | Shirik | I've registered 2 days before the start of the semester once |
| 19:07.05 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds like your system is fail, fail fail. |
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| 19:09.57 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, what do you want to do with the lens? |
| 19:10.22 | Zhinjio | anyone have any thoughts on running 32 vs 64 bit version of windows 7? |
| 19:10.26 | Shirik | you know my general use cases: nature and sports |
| 19:10.27 | Zhinjio | it looks like I can run either. |
| 19:10.37 | Shirik | for nature, typically the telephoto will be for things like wildlife |
| 19:10.39 | Shirik | birds, butterflies |
| 19:10.43 | Shirik | butterflies are a bitch |
| 19:11.06 | Kaso | Zhinjio imo there's little reason not to 64bit nowadays unless you have some wierd hardware that isnt supported with modern drivers |
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| 19:11.52 | Zhinjio | um, double negative. so I should go 64 bit unless some hardware issue forces me not to |
| 19:11.54 | Stanzilla | the new 64bit outlook 2010 is finally fast! :P |
| 19:11.56 | Zhinjio | is what you're saying |
| 19:12.07 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, i would go with option 2 then. number one is better for low light, which you dont seem to need |
| 19:12.11 | Kraps | Kaso: really? |
| 19:12.19 | Kraps | thats good to hear |
| 19:12.19 | Zhinjio | will not run outlook. ever. period. |
| 19:12.29 | Kaso | thats my opinion yes Zhinjio but some people might tell you otherwise |
| 19:12.34 | Zhinjio | thanks Kaso |
| 19:12.36 | Kaso | there;s alot of FUD around 64bit |
| 19:12.42 | Stanzilla | outlook is really crappy |
| 19:13.11 | Stanzilla | but 2010 version is fast at least |
| 19:13.27 | Kaso | i've personally used 64bit versions since windows xp and never had any big problems (well some small ones in xp but vista pretty much cleared em all up) |
| 19:14.09 | Kaso | when you have 64bit version Zhinjio you can run 32bit versions of programs too (and you mostly still will). but if you see a 64bit installer when you download something go for it ;p |
| 19:14.18 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 19:14.31 | cog|work | unfriends Fisker |
| 19:14.33 | cog|work | http://blog.oup.com/2009/11/unfriend/ |
| 19:14.36 | Shirik | ok Lopeppeppy is right |
| 19:14.39 | Shirik | epic fail |
| 19:14.42 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: I'm not sure that's true |
| 19:14.54 | Shirik | Sunsets typically are fairly low light |
| 19:15.07 | Shirik | Also, a wide aperture means small DOF |
| 19:15.11 | Thunder_Child | but you can have a long exposure time for a sunset |
| 19:15.14 | Shirik | which might be good for certain types of shots |
| 19:15.31 | Shirik | consider a butterfly on a branch |
| 19:15.38 | Shirik | it would be desired to blur out the background |
| 19:15.42 | Zhinjio | anyone else have any 32 vs. 64 bit thoughts? |
| 19:15.55 | Thunder_Child | can always be done post |
| 19:15.59 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: SS_333_01DB - Course SS_333 prerequisites have not been started. |
| 19:16.01 | Shirik | Thunder_Child, >< |
| 19:16.04 | Thunder_Child | Zhinjio, 64 |
| 19:16.04 | Shirik | gah |
| 19:16.09 | Thunder_Child | dont gah me |
| 19:16.12 | Shirik | Why is everything these days solved with photoshop |
| 19:16.23 | Thunder_Child | not solved, made easier |
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| 19:17.05 | Stanzilla | Zhinjio: you need it if you want to use more than 4gb of ram :) |
| 19:17.12 | Lopeppeppy | Made weirder. |
| 19:17.20 | Zhinjio | nods. I have 4gig now. |
| 19:17.28 | Zhinjio | but I just got win7 |
| 19:17.34 | Zhinjio | and I need to reinstall |
| 19:17.36 | Stanzilla | well to even use 4gb you need 64bit |
| 19:17.42 | Zhinjio | so I figured now's a good time |
| 19:17.48 | Stanzilla | 32bit only uses 3.something |
| 19:17.53 | Zhinjio | right, I've been using 3.5x up to now |
| 19:17.54 | Zhinjio | right |
| 19:18.20 | Thunder_Child | there are very few programs that will not run on 64 |
| 19:18.41 | Zhinjio | upgrade advisor tells me I can't use Aero |
| 19:18.41 | Thunder_Child | off-hand the only useful one i can think of is sandboxie |
| 19:18.48 | Zhinjio | dur to video card imcompatibility |
| 19:18.49 | Zhinjio | but thats fine |
| 19:18.59 | Zhinjio | I'll deal with that until I upgrade my machine down the road |
| 19:19.03 | Zhinjio | due to... |
| 19:19.13 | ZorbaTHut | note that in my experience, even 64-bit will ignore a chunk of your 4gb |
| 19:19.21 | kdtresh | i've had no compelling reason to go to 64-bit |
| 19:19.26 | Lopeppeppy | COMPILING! |
| 19:19.28 | ZorbaTHut | you need more than 4gb to kick it over into complete "alright alright dumping all 32-bit compatibility" mode |
| 19:19.41 | Thunder_Child | ZorbaTHut, mine doesnt |
| 19:20.40 | ZorbaTHut | I suspect it depends on the system. it does on both of my exactly-4gb boxes |
| 19:20.54 | ZorbaTHut | and doesn't on my 8gb box |
| 19:21.39 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, save me from our horrible system |
| 19:22.05 | Zhinjio | thanks for the feedback, folks. |
| 19:22.11 | Zhinjio | wish me luck. heh |
| 19:22.23 | Kraps | Danica Patrick is crazy hot |
| 19:22.27 | Stanzilla | that could be a bios setting btw Zhinjio |
| 19:22.35 | Zhinjio | what, luck? |
| 19:22.36 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 19:23.10 | Stanzilla | no that 4gb thing^^ |
| 19:23.14 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I'm currently engaged in screwing my own up royally, I'll get to yours in November. Okay? |
| 19:23.15 | Zhinjio | hahaha. |
| 19:23.17 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 19:23.29 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, you asked me for my option. when you factor in things you can and can not do digitally then lens #2 is better. PS can not extend your zoom distance but it can blurr the background. so you get more useability |
| 19:23.54 | Stanzilla | Zhinjio: it's called PAE |
| 19:24.16 | Shirik | fair enough Thunder_Child |
| 19:24.26 | Zhinjio | Stanzilla: noted. thanks. |
| 19:24.34 | Zhinjio | isn't there a term for the background blurriness? um... |
| 19:24.43 | Shirik | but wouldn't the quailty be better if it were done by the lens? |
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| 19:24.57 | Shirik | Zhinjio: Small depth of field |
| 19:25.10 | Zhinjio | no... something else. *grump* |
| 19:25.12 | Zhinjio | um... |
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| 19:25.51 | Zhinjio | well, I mean |
| 19:25.51 | Stanzilla | my wlan hates me |
| 19:25.51 | Zhinjio | yes |
| 19:25.59 | Zhinjio | thats one thing that it is called |
| 19:26.03 | Zhinjio | but there's another term, I thought |
| 19:26.18 | Zhinjio | bokeh!~ |
| 19:26.21 | Zhinjio | isn't that it? |
| 19:26.32 | Zhinjio | yes |
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| 19:27.01 | Ackis | http://apps.facebook.com/xboxapp/ how the heck does that work? it's not showing anything for me |
| 19:27.21 | Zhinjio | http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/technical/bokeh.html |
| 19:28.53 | Thunder_Child | Zhinjio, depth of fileld is the mechanic behind the blurryness, or 'bokeh' |
| 19:29.00 | Zhinjio | nods. I just read that page. I got it now. |
| 19:29.01 | Thunder_Child | not the name per se |
| 19:29.17 | Zhinjio | thanks |
| 19:29.41 | Zhinjio | I just remembered someone calling it something else, and couldn't think of the term offhand |
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| 19:32.46 | NightHawkTheSane | http://wildammo.com/2009/08/09/what-stormtroopers-do-on-their-day-off/ |
| 19:34.43 | ZorbaTHut | the downside about building my personal ui framework off Blizzard's is that I keep ending up slightly tripped up by small differences. sigh. |
| 19:35.09 | Shirik | I never heard "bokeh" before |
| 19:35.11 | Shirik | interesting term |
| 19:35.19 | Shirik | I will have to use that more so people think I know what I'm talking about |
| 19:35.35 | Zhinjio | grins at Shirik! |
| 19:36.19 | Kraps | how is that pronounced? |
| 19:36.35 | Thunder_Child | "pronounced bo-keh" |
| 19:36.39 | Zhinjio | bow-keh (like meh) |
| 19:36.51 | Shirik | it's ã¼ã |
| 19:36.51 | Shirik | so |
| 19:36.56 | Shirik | Bow kay |
| 19:37.04 | Shirik | or "bow K" I guess |
| 19:37.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd rather just use 'depth of field', so more people think i'm not a pretentious douche. |
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| 19:37.57 | Zhinjio | <--- pretentious douche. |
| 19:38.21 | Zhinjio | actually, I'm not. But I play one on tv. |
| 19:38.25 | Zhinjio | except I'm not on tv. |
| 19:38.29 | Zhinjio | except in my head. |
| 19:38.38 | Zhinjio | anyway, idle to do this install. peace. thanks again. |
| 19:38.49 | Torhal | Ack! |
| 19:42.24 | NightHawkTheSane | zomg.. http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/11/13/relive-your-misspent-youth-with-these-transformers-usb-drives/ |
| 19:43.12 | Shirik | omg win |
| 19:43.20 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, did you just call Shirik a pretentious douche? |
| 19:43.52 | Shirik | I wouldn't be surprised if he did, however I will in fact probably continue to say DoF because after today I won't remember the term bokeh |
| 19:43.59 | Shirik | I would also like to ask why the hell it is spelled Bokeh |
| 19:44.19 | Shirik | if it comes from åããthen it should in fact be boke |
| 19:44.19 | Thunder_Child | it's spelled boke |
| 19:44.25 | Shirik | oh |
| 19:44.26 | Shirik | ok |
| 19:51.46 | bleeter | oh, so that's why I'd never heard of 'bokeh' |
| 19:52.11 | bleeter | only been used in English for around 10 years |
| 19:52.56 | bleeter | what a wank |
| 19:53.23 | zenzelezz | <bleeter> what a wank <-- topic |
| 19:55.03 | bleeter | 06:43 <@Shirik> I would also like to ask why the hell it is spelled Bokeh << because someone said so http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/bokeh.shtml |
| 19:57.55 | Arrowmaster | so im looking at the recommended stations in the xbox last.fm app and my recommendations are so fucked up, i guess thats what i get for rarely ever using last.fm but letting AudioSurf publish to it when i try weird anime songs in it |
| 19:58.43 | Kraps | Arrowmaster: haha |
| 19:59.05 | Shirik | lol Arrowmaster |
| 19:59.12 | Shirik | Pandora is spot on for me |
| 19:59.43 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Waters of Mars is out, if you didn't know. |
| 19:59.53 | Arrowmaster | i have no clue what some of the recommendations are but at least its got high and mighty color, abington boys school, flow, and hitomi |
| 20:00.00 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: already watched it last night |
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| 20:02.35 | Kraps | Shirik: it used to play the exact same songs for me for a long time, but i think its branching out now for some reason |
| 20:03.28 | bleeter | Shirik: Pandora's spot on for me too... 'we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S... We believe that you are in Australia... If you believe we have made a mistake, we apologize and ask that you please contact us at ...' |
| 20:03.44 | Shirik | well that's obviously because you suck at life |
| 20:03.48 | Shirik | you should live in the US |
| 20:03.50 | bleeter | no u |
| 20:03.52 | Shirik | where the cool people are |
| 20:03.54 | Shirik | I do tyvm |
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| 20:04.51 | Kraps | who in the US do you define as cool? |
| 20:05.03 | Zhinjio | <--!! |
| 20:05.03 | bleeter | his own lunchbox |
| 20:05.40 | Shirik | <!-- |
| 20:05.41 | Arrowmaster | must stay in the last.fm app to listen, lame |
| 20:06.08 | Arrowmaster | ill go play MW2 instead |
| 20:06.29 | NightHawkTheSane | ...i love japan.. http://i.imgur.com/GAy0f.jpg |
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| 20:09.25 | Thunder_Child | hmm..i found wodden sporks in the closet |
| 20:09.32 | Thunder_Child | wooden* |
| 20:10.06 | bleeter | so now Facebook is on XBox Live, wonder when Blizz will get off their bum and have a genuine FB presence... |
| 20:10.35 | Thunder_Child | why? |
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| 20:10.37 | Shirik | Why does Blizzard need to be on facebook |
| 20:10.49 | Shadowed | Why would you want Blizzard to have a FB presence |
| 20:11.06 | zenzelezz | clearly with Blizzard's Xbox presence... |
| 20:11.08 | Shirik | !quote PRIVMSG #wowuidev :Why bleeter, why! |
| 20:11.10 | batbot | Shirik, privmsg has not said anything with your given pattern. |
| 20:11.13 | Zhinjio | why would blizzard want to ignore one of the most powerful marketing mediums available? |
| 20:11.14 | Shirik | er |
| 20:11.20 | Shirik | where the hell did shiibot go |
| 20:12.05 | amro | picking four leaf clovers |
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| 20:12.40 | Shirik | Zhinjio: Any publicity is good publicity? |
| 20:13.10 | Zhinjio | are you asking or agreeing? |
| 20:13.12 | Lopeppeppy | why do it when the fans are already doign it so well? |
| 20:14.06 | bleeter | Why does anyone 'need' to be on facebook? Personally, I'd probably play FB games if they did shit like port Lost Vikings, RPM Racing etc. |
| 20:14.43 | bleeter | just as a crazy idea, you know |
| 20:15.48 | Kraps | are the official forums good or bad publicity? |
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| 20:17.03 | Shirik | I totally agree bleeter |
| 20:17.12 | Shirik | nobody needs to be on FB |
| 20:17.15 | Shirik | it just needs to die |
| 20:17.25 | bleeter | no u |
| 20:17.28 | Shirik | I use it when I need an obscure friend from 5 years ago's phone number |
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| 20:17.33 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* |
| 20:17.43 | Shirik | But why do people check it every 5 minutes |
| 20:17.47 | NightHawkTheSane | facebook itself isn't intrinsically bad. |
| 20:17.51 | Shirik | as if I care what they are doing every instant of their life |
| 20:18.12 | Shirik | or better yet |
| 20:18.20 | NightHawkTheSane | the way it's been abused, overloaded with bloated functionality, and used as a marketing and application platform make it really obnoxious |
| 20:18.21 | Shirik | the 16yos posting pictures of them getting drunk at last night's party |
| 20:18.55 | amro | Shirik: but how else would you get 854 requests to install shitty applications and take stupid tests? |
| 20:19.58 | Shirik | Ivar Jørstad |
| 20:19.59 | Ackis | bleeter: http://apps.facebook.com/xboxapp/ is what you're talking about? |
| 20:20.00 | Shirik | wtf is that symbol |
| 20:21.08 | zenzelezz | which symbol? |
| 20:21.26 | Shirik | the o thingy |
| 20:21.32 | Thunder_Child | Zhinjio, i dobut you could find someone on FB that hasent heard of wow |
| 20:21.36 | zenzelezz | it's a letter |
| 20:21.36 | bleeter | Ackis: https://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=180558067130 ? |
| 20:21.36 | zenzelezz | a vowel |
| 20:22.02 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: YOU'RE a vowel |
| 20:22.15 | bleeter | Ackis: looks like it |
| 20:22.17 | Shirik | what is the name of it? |
| 20:22.37 | Ackis | bleeter: aye the app I posted helps you link apparently |
| 20:23.02 | zenzelezz | Shirik: as "A" is the letter A's name, "Ø" is the letter Ø's name |
| 20:23.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: wiki it. |
| 20:23.18 | Shirik | but |
| 20:23.27 | bleeter | Ackis: have you seen that annoying as batshit thing people use to tweet and update their FB status with WoW 'achievements'? drive me crazy with it's spam when people start out new chars |
| 20:23.52 | bleeter | Ackis: dunno it's name, so can't link it. uses some library thing that's on curse |
| 20:24.03 | Ackis | bleeter: yah I've seen it, you can do it for so many things, I had it turned on with raptr once and man it annoyed even me |
| 20:24.28 | bleeter | someone asked me to write changes for it so it didn't spam as much... I felt like getting on a plane and going over to said person's home and punching them in the face |
| 20:24.30 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: wow, that's obnoxious as fuck |
| 20:24.34 | Shirik | zenzelezz, that doesn't really help |
| 20:24.41 | Shirik | and NightHawkTheSane: Wiki says what it is |
| 20:24.44 | Shirik | but not WHAT it is |
| 20:24.44 | zenzelezz | Shirik: there's no other way to explain it in writing |
| 20:24.49 | zenzelezz | it's just another letter! |
| 20:24.50 | Shirik | how do you pronounce it? |
| 20:24.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: you los tme. |
| 20:24.55 | Shirik | Not how do you pronounce the sound |
| 20:24.58 | Shirik | How do you pronounce the letter |
| 20:25.09 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 20:25.15 | NightHawkTheSane | "The name of this letter is the same as the sound it represents (see usage)" |
| 20:25.22 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:25.22 | zenzelezz | imagine it *something* like the sound in good British "burn" |
| 20:25.30 | Shirik | Why can't they just say that it sounds like _______- |
| 20:25.31 | Thunder_Child | what letter isnt pronounced as it sounds? |
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| 20:25.44 | Shirik | Pretty much all the letters in english, Thunder_Child |
| 20:25.50 | bleeter | it's like Shirik's never heard of the guys from Abba |
| 20:25.55 | zenzelezz | that's why English sucks |
| 20:26.43 | Shirik | like take the letter Y |
| 20:26.44 | Shirik | what actually sounds like that? |
| 20:26.44 | bleeter | yeah here it is |
| 20:26.50 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: y is upsilon |
| 20:26.52 | bleeter | annoying as fuck addon #1 -> http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/dingtweet.aspx |
| 20:26.55 | jnwhiteh | that's why its "greek i" in spanish |
| 20:27.02 | jnwhiteh | and its like that in most languages |
| 20:27.08 | jnwhiteh | it almost never has the name of its sound |
| 20:27.12 | jnwhiteh | y is an exception =) |
| 20:27.18 | bleeter | 'double you' hahaha |
| 20:27.22 | Shirik | That may all be true |
| 20:27.31 | Shirik | but it's a letter in english :) and an example of how much we fail at life |
| 20:27.38 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 20:27.40 | jnwhiteh | but everyone else fails too |
| 20:27.41 | jnwhiteh | so bad example. |
| 20:27.42 | Shirik | doubles bleeter |
| 20:27.49 | Shirik | Why does that make it a bad example? |
| 20:27.52 | Shirik | I totally agree |
| 20:27.53 | jnwhiteh | because |
| 20:27.55 | jnwhiteh | _everyone else_ does it. |
| 20:27.59 | Shirik | yup |
| 20:28.00 | Shirik | so we all fail |
| 20:28.00 | jnwhiteh | with y |
| 20:28.23 | NightHawkTheSane | why MUST the proper name of a letter be the same as the sound it produces in a given language? |
| 20:28.29 | jnwhiteh | it doesn't. |
| 20:28.32 | Shirik | because Thunder_Child said so? |
| 20:28.35 | jnwhiteh | that would be absurd |
| 20:28.37 | Shirik | (15:25:01) (Thunder_Child) what letter isnt pronounced as it sounds? |
| 20:28.50 | industrial | Is there a different word for chauvinistic that's not french? of not then I have proof that the french invented chauvinism and thus are chauvinistic basterds (mostly!) |
| 20:28.51 | jnwhiteh | he didn't say they needed to be, he asked if there were ones that weren't. |
| 20:28.52 | NightHawkTheSane | so, how is at all fail for Y (or any other letter) to sound differently than its name? :P |
| 20:28.53 | Shirik | he ask a question, I give an answer |
| 20:28.56 | jnwhiteh | those are not the same |
| 20:29.01 | Shirik | so I fail to see why Y is an incorrect answer |
| 20:29.18 | industrial | (in dutch we also use the french word, amongst many other french words..) |
| 20:29.21 | jnwhiteh | its fine, as an answer to that question |
| 20:29.22 | jnwhiteh | you didn't stop there |
| 20:29.25 | Shirik | bzr merge conversation |
| 20:29.29 | Shirik | Error: These branches have diverged |
| 20:29.58 | zenzelezz | again? |
| 20:31.30 | industrial | hahaha I just found an industrial band named 'Cat Rapes Dog', awesome =D |
| 20:31.37 | Shirik | lol I get it |
| 20:31.39 | Shirik | industrial band |
| 20:33.01 | Shirik | Which is "more correct" for World Wide Web Consortium |
| 20:33.04 | Shirik | WWWC or W3C? |
| 20:33.05 | Shirik | I see both |
| 20:33.11 | Shirik | seems like W3C |
| 20:33.16 | bleeter | Ackis, NightHawkTheSane: oh and that addon's based upon this: http://tweetcraft.codeplex.com/ |
| 20:33.24 | bleeter | 'TweetCraft is an in-game Twitter client for World of Warcraft' |
| 20:33.25 | Shirik | Wikipedia believes it's W3C too |
| 20:33.37 | Shirik | bleeter? How is that possible? |
| 20:33.47 | nevcairiel | reload ui |
| 20:33.48 | Duman | w3c is more common |
| 20:33.51 | Shirik | or does that mean solely contained within wow, not to the external twitter server |
| 20:33.59 | olafski | no it tweets to twitter |
| 20:34.01 | Shirik | nevcairiel: That wouldn't be very twitter-like |
| 20:34.02 | bleeter | reloadui and monitoring file changes |
| 20:34.05 | Lopeppeppy | it's done through a reloadui kludge, Shirik. |
| 20:34.07 | Shirik | or it wouldn't be very wow-like |
| 20:34.14 | Shirik | so every time you tweet you have to reload ui? |
| 20:34.15 | zenzelezz | Shirik: considering their website is w3.org... |
| 20:34.20 | Torhal | Shirik: yes |
| 20:34.25 | Torhal | It's retardedly retarded. |
| 20:34.25 | Shirik | wow that's annoying |
| 20:34.28 | Duman | haha |
| 20:34.28 | nevcairiel | Shirik: well you can tweet multiple times and push them out later |
| 20:34.34 | Shirik | retardedly retarded |
| 20:34.34 | nevcairiel | twitter in general is annoying, imho. |
| 20:34.38 | Shirik | agree |
| 20:34.41 | Shirik | it is facebook 2.0 |
| 20:34.48 | Duman | heh |
| 20:34.52 | Duman | FB uber alles! |
| 20:34.54 | Duman | I mean, hi |
| 20:34.55 | bleeter | it says it can auto-tweet on login, instance entry or achievement |
| 20:35.04 | Shirik | achievement? |
| 20:35.11 | Shirik | the other two I understand |
| 20:35.23 | bleeter | monitor armory, I guess |
| 20:35.25 | nevcairiel | do you not want to announce to the world when you earned something? |
| 20:35.28 | Duman | jeez |
| 20:35.30 | Shirik | even if you monitor armory |
| 20:35.34 | Shirik | how can you pass the appropriate data |
| 20:35.50 | olafski | nah it probably queues a tweet when you get an achievement |
| 20:35.52 | Duman | armory doesn't sync until you logout, I thoguht |
| 20:35.52 | nevcairiel | I guess it just means it can produce tweets based on those events |
| 20:35.56 | nevcairiel | not push them to twitter |
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| 20:36.01 | Shirik | oh that makes sense |
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| 20:36.20 | Shirik | so wait |
| 20:36.25 | Shirik | I can double my login time with this addon? |
| 20:36.34 | Shirik | Logging in = send tweet = reload ui |
| 20:36.47 | Shirik | awesome, must get |
| 20:36.49 | nevcairiel | it doesnt auto-reload ui |
| 20:36.53 | bleeter | Shirik: It's Microsoft code, so... probably |
| 20:36.55 | Shirik | but it could, and should |
| 20:38.54 | zenzelezz | bleeter: I was under the impression it was unrelated to MS, merely hosted on Codeplex |
| 20:38.56 | olafski | but it says "Send/receive Tweets in-game (Immediate sending reloads your UI)" |
| 20:39.02 | olafski | does that mean the receiving is always immediate? |
| 20:39.05 | olafski | how would that work :< |
| 20:39.17 | Lopeppeppy | by reloading your UI, as it says. |
| 20:39.26 | olafski | immediate _sending_ reloads your UI |
| 20:39.39 | Ackis | http://www.petfinder.com/foster-a-lonely-pet |
| 20:39.42 | Lopeppeppy | I assume it's the same mechanic. Unless receiving is done via the game. |
| 20:39.47 | bleeter | zenzelezz: one of the authors is from MS, was done a Code4Fun... I was being a little facetious ;) |
| 20:39.49 | olafski | yeah.. I doubt that though |
| 20:39.57 | olafski | I doubt the game can access twitter ;) |
| 20:40.03 | olafski | or monitor a file for changes |
| 20:40.10 | Lopeppeppy | *sigh* I think you're misunderstanding me. |
| 20:40.14 | krka | couldn't you use on demand loading to get stuff without reloadui? |
| 20:40.24 | krka | you're clearly misunderestimated |
| 20:40.33 | olafski | hmm |
| 20:40.33 | Lopeppeppy | The twitter is sent across the game addon channel for immediate reception, and then posted to twitter on reload. |
| 20:40.44 | durcyn | no, LoD doesn't pick up new or changed files |
| 20:40.47 | Lopeppeppy | That's a guess. Go get the addon and pick it apart to see. |
| 20:40.54 | krka | ah thanks durcyn |
| 20:41.10 | olafski | lopeppeppy: where would it be sent from? if some friend of mine tweets from his iphone he's not really in a position to send it over an addon channel :/ |
| 20:41.10 | krka | ooh here's a thought |
| 20:41.16 | durcyn | and they should just change the color of a pixel or pixels in the corner to signal |
| 20:41.18 | krka | it could peer2peer the updates |
| 20:41.24 | olafski | yeah I was going to say that krka :D |
| 20:41.32 | olafski | see which people your friends/guildies are watching and watch those too |
| 20:41.41 | olafski | so that when _you_ reload, everybody gets their updates ,0 |
| 20:41.43 | olafski | ,)* |
| 20:41.43 | krka | user A and B both use twitter, and if B reloads the ui, he fetches the updates for A too |
| 20:41.51 | Lopeppeppy | You can't get those until you reload, I assume. Go pick it apart and see. |
| 20:42.18 | nevcairiel | krka: i would so hack that to distribute false tweets |
| 20:42.28 | bleeter | twitter's not completely useless, just scored this URL from the writer of IT Crowd, http://bit.ly/1apTOW |
| 20:42.50 | bleeter | 'How to watch Daily Show videos in the UK' |
| 20:42.57 | krka | nevcairiel: twitter could implement some sort of validation scheme though |
| 20:43.03 | krka | with public key distributed along with addons |
| 20:43.07 | bleeter | didn't even know addon 967 existed, shoulda guessed |
| 20:43.10 | nevcairiel | .. right :P |
| 20:43.11 | krka | but only twitter knows the private key to sign with |
| 20:43.30 | jnwhiteh | or they could use the system they already have and have to do nothing, brilliant! |
| 20:43.38 | jnwhiteh | there's a video showing how the addon works, and its not that bad |
| 20:44.35 | bleeter | it's awful if one has three or four FB friends using it |
| 20:44.40 | bleeter | fucking spammage |
| 20:44.50 | jnwhiteh | what does the twitter addon have to do with facebook? |
| 20:45.16 | olafski | yeah doesn't look too bad :) |
| 20:45.20 | Lopeppeppy | I think "spam" and "worthless" and "junk" are what they had in common. |
| 20:45.21 | olafski | I don't use twitter though |
| 20:45.25 | bleeter | jnwhiteh: twitter/FB integration foo |
| 20:45.34 | jnwhiteh | bleeter: so it shows their status messages |
| 20:45.35 | jnwhiteh | O.o |
| 20:45.36 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: y u h8? |
| 20:45.39 | jnwhiteh | hide them from your news feed |
| 20:45.48 | bleeter | jnwhiteh: can only hide the person |
| 20:45.55 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, because I *have* to use them for work. |
| 20:45.58 | jnwhiteh | sound slike its worth it to me |
| 20:46.24 | bleeter | lol I should tell that to this one particular person 'cladhaire said it's worth hiding you to get rid of the spam, cya' |
| 20:46.32 | bleeter | or maybe I'll use your IRL name :P |
| 20:46.39 | zenzelezz | consoles Lopeppeppy |
| 20:46.41 | Lopeppeppy | People don't know it when you've hidden them, bleeter. |
| 20:46.49 | Lopeppeppy | They don't know when you've blocked them, either. |
| 20:47.12 | bleeter | er, they do. can't remember the error msg from trying to mail a person who's blocked |
| 20:47.14 | Lopeppeppy | A common friend tells me it's funny to watch The New Girlfriend fume when I "ignore" her comments because I have her blocked on FB and never see them. |
| 20:47.15 | bleeter | but it's fairly obvious |
| 20:48.03 | Lopeppeppy | If they're stupid enough to mail me, they deserve to know it, IMO. |
| 20:48.41 | Lopeppeppy | But when you block them, they aren't notified, they have to go out of their way to discover it. |
| 20:48.47 | zenzelezz | I don't even have peppy on my FB :-o Not that there'd be anything interesting to see on mine |
| 20:49.13 | bleeter | btw folks, it's norganna's b'day today, if people feel like drive-by-/cheer'ing him in #norganna ;) |
| 20:49.26 | bleeter | oO I don't have peppy on my FB either |
| 20:49.55 | bleeter | well, don't think so. there's a bunch of 'us' from CSF, and the 'csf group' I nerd-rage-quit from |
| 20:49.58 | Lopeppeppy | Elusive Peppy-kins! |
| 20:50.06 | bleeter | rawr |
| 20:50.10 | zenzelezz | :( |
| 20:50.12 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 20:50.12 | zenzelezz | QQs |
| 20:50.44 | harl | rawr? |
| 20:50.44 | Lopeppeppy | huggles Gryphon |
| 20:50.47 | Gryphon | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 20:51.19 | Seerah | http://wildammo.com/2009/08/09/what-stormtroopers-do-on-their-day-off/ |
| 20:51.33 | bleeter | well that sucks, http://www.facebook.com/lopeppeppy 404's |
| 20:52.59 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, sorry, I'd be under my own own really real name! |
| 20:53.20 | zenzelezz | goes searching |
| 20:53.38 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.facebook.com/jarien |
| 20:53.52 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 20:54.17 | Lopeppeppy | What? |
| 20:54.22 | zenzelezz | that was almost too easy :( |
| 20:54.36 | Lopeppeppy | :P Custom URL is custom! |
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| 21:04.31 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: if I'd put my mind to it (and some brief Perl coding) I probably could've found you ;) |
| 21:04.43 | bleeter | afaik FB API & ACL still sucks |
| 21:07.09 | Lopeppeppy | maybe, bleeter. Or just visited the pages of some of the others here in the channel, how hard is it? |
| 21:08.22 | bleeter | to be honest I mainly use FB to find local events so I can go annoy the knobs and wankers in the 'in crowd' around this town |
| 21:08.35 | bleeter | anything else would take brainpower and time |
| 21:08.56 | Lopeppeppy | I play games when I need 5 minutes break at work. Swapping programming type tasks can take a toll on the brain. |
| 21:09.01 | cog|work | that's what you get for living on australia's droppings :P |
| 21:09.02 | bleeter | I looked at doing some FB app stuff, but the API is so shitty I wouldn't want to inflict it upon my users |
| 21:09.51 | Lopeppeppy | It is a very crappy API. |
| 21:09.56 | bleeter | cog|work: just for you, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNEeq5qGh8I |
| 21:10.18 | cog|work | you might accidentally get killed? |
| 21:10.28 | cog|work | ha yep =) |
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| 21:11.04 | kdtresh | is there any way to insert table A into table B using one of the elements of table A as a key? |
| 21:11.22 | kdtresh | so B[A.element] = A? |
| 21:11.29 | bleeter | cog|work: you could also come to Tasmania... only one of our snakes has never been known to kill a human, although it is poisonous. You could claim world first! |
| 21:11.41 | cog|work | not if A.element has the same value as some other table's element |
| 21:11.49 | kdtresh | it doesn't |
| 21:11.51 | cog|work | or some other element of A for that matter |
| 21:12.04 | kdtresh | all the elements in A are unique to each other |
| 21:12.05 | ZorbaTHut | kdtresh, B[A.element] = A |
| 21:12.30 | ZorbaTHut | if you want it to update automatically if A's element is changed, that's another matter entirely, though |
| 21:12.38 | cog|work | ^ |
| 21:12.47 | kdtresh | hmmm |
| 21:13.06 | ZorbaTHut | at that point you'd be looking at some kind of gnarly metatable monstrosity so that A automatically updates its position in B when things are changd |
| 21:13.09 | kdtresh | i was thinking i need to use table.insert to have them sortable, but i guess i don't need to |
| 21:13.14 | ZorbaTHut | or a SetElement() function |
| 21:16.15 | cog|work | bleeter: |
| 21:16.17 | cog|work | err |
| 21:16.27 | cog|work | ~lart tab complete |
| 21:16.27 | purl | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, tab complete, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 21:16.38 | cog|work | Nothing to see here... move along |
| 21:16.38 | Ackis | ~rlart |
| 21:16.39 | purl | nukes Ericpeeg with a single large nuke |
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| 21:32.00 | DWSR | Anyone have a suggestion for a sans-serif font that's not Arial, Calibri or Francophile? |
| 21:32.12 | nicoli_s | Wingdings? |
| 21:32.39 | Ackis | Arial Narrow? |
| 21:32.58 | DWSR | Arial or a derivative* |
| 21:33.07 | Ackis | :P |
| 21:33.11 | alestane | Optima. |
| 21:33.24 | alestane | Helvetica. |
| 21:33.32 | alestane | Charcoal. |
| 21:33.36 | cog|work | Syntax |
| 21:34.06 | cog|work | bitstream vera sans |
| 21:34.38 | cog|work | (the latter is open source) |
| 21:35.06 | DWSR | cog|work: Bitstream's from Gnome? |
| 21:35.29 | Shirik | DWSR: Comic Sans |
| 21:35.36 | DWSR | Shirik: Ick. |
| 21:35.39 | Shirik | lul |
| 21:35.42 | Shirik | oh btw DWSR |
| 21:35.45 | Shirik | I figured out why you said my gear sucked |
| 21:35.45 | cog|work | well, it's originally from bitstream :P I think gnu continued work on it to add more unicode code points |
| 21:35.48 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:35.55 | Shirik | I knew my gear sucked, but it didn't suck as badly as you thought it sucked |
| 21:36.06 | DWSR | Shirik: I didn't say it sucked? |
| 21:36.13 | Shirik | apparently a month ago I forgot to update my equipment profiles so I've been running with 3 raid pieces in my bags |
| 21:36.15 | Fisker | i made soup Shirik |
| 21:36.18 | Shirik | oh I thought you were implying it :P |
| 21:36.19 | DWSR | LOL |
| 21:36.22 | DWSR | FAIL |
| 21:36.35 | Shirik | I found out yesterday while cleaning out my bags, which I do like once a year |
| 21:36.44 | Shirik | and I was like "damn I replaced a 245 piece?" |
| 21:36.57 | Shirik | and then I looked and was like "no I'm wearing a 226 wtf" |
| 21:37.08 | Shirik | and then went :< |
| 21:37.14 | Shirik | and then taht happened 2 more times |
| 21:37.17 | DWSR | Shirik: That makes a loooott more sense. |
| 21:37.25 | Shirik | I also found I have 3x conqueror pants |
| 21:37.27 | Shirik | and 2x pvp pants |
| 21:37.51 | DWSR | ROFL |
| 21:37.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: i do that a fair bit too. |
| 21:38.06 | NightHawkTheSane | i'll be like "shit, when did I get this? why haven't I been wearing it?!" |
| 21:38.07 | DWSR | Outfitter's "Odd & Ends", kthx. |
| 21:38.08 | Shirik | I am very disorganized |
| 21:38.44 | Shirik | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Drenden&n=Kimina seems to be a little better now |
| 21:38.49 | Shirik | though admittedly still needs work |
| 21:39.01 | Shirik | considering my guild is much further than my gear would suggest |
| 21:40.20 | DWSR | If I put a new font into CF2's font directory, can I just /rl for it to show up or do I need to restart WoW? |
| 21:40.34 | *** join/#wowuidev smcn (i=smcn@67.166.76.157) |
| 21:40.41 | NightHawkTheSane | you'd have to restart wow, iirc. |
| 21:40.57 | NightHawkTheSane | although is that even enough for it to show up in cf2? |
| 21:41.07 | DWSR | Shirik: Why the life binder and NOT Enlightenment? |
| 21:41.27 | Shirik | DWSR: Because WoW hates me |
| 21:41.29 | Shirik | like |
| 21:41.29 | Stanzilla | fail for not having hodir on exalted |
| 21:41.30 | Shirik | you have no idea |
| 21:41.32 | Shirik | no idea |
| 21:41.38 | Shirik | Stanzilla: Actually I do, armory just refuses to believe me |
| 21:41.45 | Shirik | Because all of the relics are in my bag instead |
| 21:41.57 | Stanzilla | your shoulder enchant disagrees :( |
| 21:41.59 | Shirik | yes |
| 21:42.05 | Shirik | because they wouldn't give me the enchant |
| 21:42.09 | Shirik | until I gave them the relics |
| 21:42.12 | Shirik | they were being greedy |
| 21:42.27 | Shirik | When I'm not lazy I'll actually fly over there |
| 21:42.30 | Shirik | until then it's no big deal |
| 21:42.37 | DWSR | lol |
| 21:42.40 | Stanzilla | change your staff enchant on the way :p |
| 21:42.46 | Shirik | nah |
| 21:43.01 | DWSR | enlightenment's a 10man drop. You can lollerstomp through totc10 in like half an hour |
| 21:43.10 | Stanzilla | spirit is uber fail :( |
| 21:43.12 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 21:43.14 | Shirik | DWSR: Oh I thought you were talking about something else |
| 21:43.18 | Shirik | Stanzilla: Completely disagree |
| 21:43.20 | DWSR | Stanzilla: No it's not. |
| 21:43.30 | Shirik | Like I honestly think if I disagreed more |
| 21:43.33 | NightHawkTheSane | (i meant re: DWSR's comment, to be sure) |
| 21:43.34 | Shirik | I would wrap around to 100% agree |
| 21:43.50 | Ackis | I didn't know Shirik was a priest |
| 21:43.51 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane/DWSR: Yeah that one I wasn't paying attention to. I thought he meant the other staff in Ulduar |
| 21:43.59 | Stanzilla | 45 spirit |
| 21:44.00 | Stanzilla | vs |
| 21:44.03 | Stanzilla | 81 spellpower |
| 21:44.03 | *** join/#wowuidev DWSR (n=doingwha@unaffiliated/dwsr) |
| 21:44.04 | Stanzilla | come on |
| 21:44.05 | Shirik | I am not a fucking paladin |
| 21:44.06 | Shirik | ok |
| 21:44.21 | NightHawkTheSane | although, DWSR, do you mean Illumination? |
| 21:44.23 | alestane | Well, Shirik is a hunter IIRC, but he hardly even plays that toon anymore. |
| 21:44.31 | Shirik | How the hell do you know that alestane |
| 21:44.39 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47892 |
| 21:44.40 | Shirik | I didn't think anyone here actually knew who Shirik was |
| 21:44.46 | Ackis | Stanzilla: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Thunderlord&n=Ackis like my hot gear? :P |
| 21:44.51 | alestane | Because I used to see you post under that toon on the forum, back you posted? |
| 21:44.59 | Shirik | ah maybe |
| 21:45.01 | DWSR | NHTS: No, I mean enlightenment http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47743 |
| 21:45.03 | Shirik | that was a very long time ago |
| 21:45.03 | alestane | And I saw you start posting with Kimina for a while after that. |
| 21:45.14 | Shirik | DWSR: Thanks for the tip |
| 21:45.20 | Shirik | I think if it takes me 30 minutes I will be depressed |
| 21:45.28 | DWSR | Shirik: What NHTS linked is the Horde equivalent. |
| 21:45.35 | DWSR | So that's what you're looking for. |
| 21:45.36 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: ahh |
| 21:45.41 | Shirik | though I wonder if it's worth my time |
| 21:45.47 | DWSR | Shirik: Sockets are win. :) |
| 21:45.49 | Shirik | theoretically I should be able to get something better with little to no work |
| 21:45.55 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: forgot, for a sec, that horde & ally gear was different |
| 21:46.02 | NightHawkTheSane | and yeah, illumination/enlightenment is HOT |
| 21:46.07 | DWSR | lol |
| 21:46.07 | Stanzilla | Ackis: go away, please. that's horrible :( |
| 21:46.09 | NightHawkTheSane | i kind of want it on my shaman |
| 21:46.09 | Shirik | oh ew |
| 21:46.13 | Shirik | no spirit on that staff? :/ |
| 21:46.20 | Shirik | :/// |
| 21:46.31 | NightHawkTheSane | so socket spirit if you want it that badly. i love the fact that it has none :) |
| 21:46.35 | NightHawkTheSane | and all that glorius haste. |
| 21:46.37 | Shirik | though the other aspects are nice |
| 21:46.38 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 21:46.42 | DWSR | Haste is just. |
| 21:46.42 | Shirik | the haste is what I'm looking at |
| 21:46.47 | DWSR | FTMWCSW. |
| 21:46.56 | DWSR | FTMFCSW* |
| 21:46.57 | NightHawkTheSane | haste makes me happy in my pants. |
| 21:47.01 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 21:47.03 | haste | *rawr* |
| 21:47.04 | DWSR | I have like 850 crit. |
| 21:47.07 | DWSR | And like 450 haste. |
| 21:47.07 | Shirik | the crit offsets the spirit a little |
| 21:47.13 | NightHawkTheSane | haste: lol :) |
| 21:47.13 | DWSR | WE REQUIRE MORE HASTE. |
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| 21:47.32 | DWSR | haste: Put a cap H and then case sensitivity, kthx. |
| 21:47.36 | NightHawkTheSane | If i put on all my haste gear, i get like 850 haste rating on my resto shaman |
| 21:47.39 | Ackis | Stanzilla: haha :P I don't even know why I have a wow sub |
| 21:47.40 | Shirik | Gotta run to class |
| 21:47.41 | Shirik | bbiab |
| 21:48.06 | Fisker | you want my soup Shirik |
| 21:48.07 | Shirik | I guess I can lose some spirit |
| 21:48.12 | Shirik | I'll probably still enchant spirit |
| 21:48.19 | DWSR | omg. |
| 21:48.25 | DWSR | It's a staff. |
| 21:48.27 | DWSR | 81 sp plz. |
| 21:48.29 | Fisker | buy my soup Shirik |
| 21:48.29 | Shirik | no |
| 21:48.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: really, if your not having mana issues, you can probably afford to lose some spirit |
| 21:48.42 | Shirik | I don't think I can afford to lose that much |
| 21:48.54 | Shirik | when I get back to class I'll discuss why |
| 21:49.03 | Shirik | this is a very common debate between me and another priest :) |
| 21:49.06 | DWSR | How do I add a font to Shared Media? |
| 21:49.17 | Shirik | We never see eye-to-eye but we are very good at discussing ideas and bounce off each other all the time |
| 21:49.29 | Shirik | For example |
| 21:49.32 | Shirik | He likes emacs, I like vim |
| 21:49.38 | Shirik | but I'm still willing to have a conversation with him |
| 21:49.40 | NightHawkTheSane | i've all but ditched mp5.. although i might be close to hitting the breakpoint where i need to stop doing that |
| 21:49.40 | DWSR | He's obviously better than you are. |
| 21:49.43 | Shirik | no |
| 21:49.44 | Shirik | hell no |
| 21:49.45 | DWSR | ;) |
| 21:49.51 | DWSR | pstt...it's called trolling |
| 21:49.59 | Shirik | bbiab |
| 21:50.10 | krka | the extra b is for bbyob |
| 21:50.30 | krka | that extra b is a typo :( |
| 21:50.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ~krka++ |
| 21:51.33 | DWSR | cog|work: Does BS Vera Sans support accented characters? |
| 21:52.26 | bleeter | Winers: Quick question, WoW working out of the box with F12? I ain't got it d/l yet so thought I'd ask |
| 21:52.44 | Ackis | F12? |
| 21:52.56 | kd3 | I expect it'll work ok |
| 21:53.02 | kd3 | 's waiting on his dvd to finish |
| 21:53.33 | cog|work | DWSR: someone else pointed out a derivitave of the bitstream vera that includes more unicode support. i can't think of the name for the life of me |
| 21:53.45 | DWSR | cog|work: ugh |
| 21:53.54 | DWSR | Any sans fonts that you know of with decent unicode support? |
| 21:54.04 | bleeter | kd3: yeah, I don't think it's as 'big' a leap as previously, just going by the glances I've made |
| 21:54.26 | cog|work | arial unicode ms has the best unicode support of any font I'm aware of |
| 21:54.44 | cog|work | but i know that's not what you wanted to hear :P |
| 21:54.48 | kd3 | cog, liberation sans? |
| 21:55.17 | cog|work | kd3: probably |
| 21:55.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Arial can suck donkey nuts. >< |
| 21:57.03 | zenzelezz | through a garden hose? |
| 21:57.17 | cog|work | liberation sans definitely has more glyphs than bitstream vera sans, but it's still not anywhere near even regular Arial |
| 21:57.25 | cog|work | (not Arial Unicode MS) |
| 22:01.05 | Ackis | so we don't like people who talk about private servers, what bout accoutn sharing? :P |
| 22:02.02 | cog|work | DWSR: what about Tahoma? |
| 22:02.08 | cog|work | or verdana |
| 22:03.03 | Shirik | anyway NightHawkTheSane |
| 22:03.07 | Shirik | I only have mana issues on certain fights |
| 22:03.28 | Shirik | You know what's one thing that really bothers me about Blizzard -- Spirit really doesn't matter as much as it used to |
| 22:03.34 | cog|work | i like them especially because I and l are easily distinguishable |
| 22:03.42 | cog|work | and unambiguous in isolation |
| 22:03.48 | alestane | They're supposed to be addressing that for Cataclysm. |
| 22:05.46 | cbreak | Spirit never mattered at all |
| 22:05.48 | cbreak | until 3.2 |
| 22:08.34 | Stanzilla | spirit is crap. end of story. |
| 22:08.46 | Stanzilla | if you have mana problems, gem int >.< |
| 22:08.53 | cog|work | hmm... "The Wine project includes a free font designed to have identical metrics to the Tahoma font." <download source... open up tahoma font> "© 2004 Microsoft Corporation" |
| 22:08.54 | Ackis | Stanzilla is crap end of story! |
| 22:09.01 | cog|work | GG winehq |
| 22:11.33 | Shirik | cbreak: Disagree |
| 22:11.36 | Shirik | Stanzilla: And you need to die |
| 22:11.42 | Shirik | You are obviously a paladin and thus I am never allowed to talk to you again |
| 22:11.50 | cbreak | <- mage |
| 22:11.56 | Stanzilla | I'm a priest |
| 22:11.58 | Stanzilla | but ok :P |
| 22:12.00 | Shirik | then where's my water bitch |
| 22:12.04 | Shirik | no |
| 22:12.07 | Shirik | you may have a priest |
| 22:12.11 | Shirik | but you ARE a paladin |
| 22:12.11 | cbreak | water's out of fashion since level 70 |
| 22:12.23 | cbreak | magic bread's the new deal |
| 22:12.28 | Shirik | you are a paladin that has learned priest spells and wears cloth |
| 22:12.38 | NightHawkTheSane | mana streudel ftw. |
| 22:12.39 | Stanzilla | my highest paladin is lvl 1 and is my bank toon |
| 22:13.03 | Ackis | my first toon was a paladin |
| 22:13.06 | Ackis | then I rerolled priest |
| 22:14.06 | Shirik | then you rerolled hunter |
| 22:14.43 | Thunder_Child | Ackis, oddly enough same |
| 22:14.52 | Thunder_Child | but i leveled fail for both classes |
| 22:14.57 | Shirik | I actually have a 49 paladin |
| 22:15.02 | Shirik | I leveled holy |
| 22:15.06 | Thunder_Child | prot pally in vanilla wow and holy priest |
| 22:16.02 | Ackis | I played my pally when it was afk grind |
| 22:16.42 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:16.55 | Shirik | leveling a holy priest is more fun imo |
| 22:17.05 | Shirik | it's harder, but I leveled in instances, etc. |
| 22:17.08 | Shirik | more fun imo |
| 22:17.13 | Fisker | paladin is the worst class to level |
| 22:17.35 | Thunder_Child | it's not harder at all Shirik, just longer |
| 22:17.40 | Shirik | that's what I mean |
| 22:18.08 | Thunder_Child | Fisker, no war/rogue is the wors class to level |
| 22:18.10 | olafski | mine's harder and longer :< |
| 22:19.02 | Shirik | .. |
| 22:19.19 | NightHawkTheSane | i only level classes and specs that are fom and easymode. :P |
| 22:19.27 | Stanzilla | Thunder_Child: prot leveling is fine now :p |
| 22:19.28 | olafski | I level all classes :< |
| 22:19.31 | olafski | prot leveling is fun |
| 22:19.45 | olafski | though it only becomes fun after you get shield slam and sword/board |
| 22:19.53 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 22:19.53 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 22:20.01 | NightHawkTheSane | before then it's still okay though |
| 22:20.23 | NightHawkTheSane | glyph of revenge makes the early levels awesome |
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| 22:22.46 | olafski | yeah that's quite true :) |
| 22:23.51 | Shirik | Thunder_Child |
| 22:23.58 | Shirik | 2.8 to 4.5 is one stop or half stop? |
| 22:24.02 | Shirik | er |
| 22:24.04 | Shirik | 2.8 to 4 |
| 22:24.09 | Shirik | no 4.5 |
| 22:24.34 | Shirik | 1.3? |
| 22:24.43 | Thunder_Child | eh, sorry clas was way to long ago from me to remember how to calc it |
| 22:24.46 | Thunder_Child | class* |
| 22:24.59 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:25.00 | Shirik | ok |
| 22:25.03 | Thunder_Child | and by long i mean more than a month |
| 22:25.09 | Shirik | I looked it up anyway |
| 22:25.18 | Shirik | just thought you might know off the top of your head |
| 22:25.34 | Shirik | 1.3 is a big difference though :/ |
| 22:25.54 | Shirik | I'm thinking about sillohuette pictures |
| 22:25.56 | Shirik | like...e |
| 22:26.35 | Shirik | http://darkroommaster.deviantart.com/art/A-Walk-on-the-Beach-7110231 |
| 22:26.48 | Shirik | or http://darkroommaster.deviantart.com/art/A-Hawaiian-Sunset-7110864 |
| 22:26.56 | Shirik | both of which are film shots so please don't complain about th quality :P |
| 22:27.49 | Shirik | Admittedly I think theseshots I wouldn't take with a telephoto I guess I would use my 24-70 f/2.8 there |
| 22:28.10 | Shirik | I guess you're probably right I should go with the 100-400 |
| 22:29.00 | zenzelezz | so in DA:O, can you not use Tomes on companions, only main character? |
| 22:29.10 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, i usually am |
| 22:29.40 | Shirik | what does "DO" mean? |
| 22:31.09 | Shirik | I figured it out |
| 22:31.11 | Thunder_Child | used how Shirik? |
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| 22:31.13 | Thunder_Child | nvm then |
| 22:31.15 | Shirik | get the 100-400, and then pick up http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=153&modelid=16357 |
| 22:31.18 | Shirik | it's only $6000 |
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| 22:32.39 | Shirik | or http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=154&modelid=7319 |
| 22:32.41 | Shirik | $8000 |
| 22:36.01 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, http://gizmodo.com/5406667/earth-engines-gallery/gallery/1 |
| 22:36.37 | Shirik | post processing? |
| 22:36.47 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 22:36.55 | Shirik | what are those blue dots? |
| 22:37.04 | Shirik | flare? |
| 22:37.09 | Thunder_Child | very long exposure with someone using lights in the picutres |
| 22:37.32 | Shirik | I'm just confused what those blue dotsare, like how they could have beenproduced |
| 22:37.40 | Thunder_Child | this is the catual article http://gizmodo.com/5406676/electrifying-landscape-photography-captures-our-electric-world |
| 22:37.53 | Shirik | pretty neat stuff though |
| 22:37.54 | Thunder_Child | actual* |
| 22:38.19 | Thunder_Child | it could easily be something as innocous as ballons light with a blue light |
| 22:38.32 | Thunder_Child | light* |
| 22:41.11 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5406598/at-long-last-the-pirate-bay-shuts-down-its-tracker |
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| 22:47.12 | WobWork | Kaelten Largose/ |
| 22:47.13 | WobWork | ? |
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| 23:08.10 | kd3 | whee f12 |
| 23:08.14 | kd3 | now to get the 0-day updates |
| 23:09.32 | bleeter | I think I just killed myself, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSAXEVXvNz8 |
| 23:14.58 | Gnarfoz | bleeter: aarrrrrgh |
| 23:15.28 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: it's death inducing, no? |
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| 23:17.08 | Gnarfoz | quite |
| 23:18.38 | Antiarc | Deadly Poison now has an additional effect - Once stacked to 5 times, each application of Deadly Poison also causes the poison on the Rogue's other weapon to apply. |
| 23:18.42 | Antiarc | Awwww yeah. |
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| 23:18.59 | Fisker | hey Antiarc |
| 23:19.08 | Fisker | you wouldn't nerf a rogueswapper? |
| 23:19.42 | Antiarc | That's a flat-out buff :D |
| 23:19.46 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 23:19.50 | Fisker | aww |
| 23:20.01 | Fisker | was figuring the change made it silly to swap out weapons |
| 23:20.06 | WobWork | http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/scientology-cult-is-a-criminal-organisation-20091118-ikoc.html |
| 23:20.09 | WobWork | nice |
| 23:20.16 | Fisker | old news WobWork |
| 23:21.07 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: mind you, the chick with the green shirt's got nice boobies |
| 23:21.08 | WobWork | pats Fisker. |
| 23:21.17 | WobWork | Go play in the traffic |
| 23:21.17 | Fisker | you just ordered a billion liters of milk |
| 23:21.24 | Fisker | I did |
| 23:21.26 | WobWork | I'll enjoy my milk |
| 23:21.27 | Gnarfoz | bleeter: youtube comments say as much, and obviously, agreed |
| 23:21.29 | Fisker | and a guy died |
| 23:21.54 | WobWork | sends the bereaved some milk |
| 23:22.27 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: oh, i have the comments 'turned off' hehe |
| 23:23.55 | Fisker | Divine Intervention no longer clears the effect of Exhaustion and Sated on target. |
| 23:23.58 | Fisker | why would they do such a thing? |
| 23:24.33 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: haha the shoplifter @ 2:14 |
| 23:25.00 | WobWork | Fisker: Cause God Lifts You Up? |
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| 23:25.24 | WobWork | Red Bull Gives You Wings? |
| 23:26.21 | Fisker | what shoplifter bleeter ? |
| 23:26.34 | Fisker | oh lol |
| 23:26.49 | Fisker | i don't think that's shoplifting |
| 23:26.53 | Fisker | just some random shit she was carrying |
| 23:27.13 | bleeter | mmm dunno |
| 23:27.18 | bleeter | still, nice hooters |
| 23:33.00 | kd3 | yay for using the right wireless driver (connected at 54 instead of 1) |
| 23:33.07 | kd3 | now if only my uplink was faster... |
| 23:33.14 | durcyn | 11n or bust |
| 23:33.29 | cog|work | "You know you're chronically sleep-deprived when you have deliciously pleasant wish-fulfillment dreams about falling asleep. Weird." |
| 23:34.07 | Zhinjio | ah, so much better now that multiplicity is running again. |
| 23:34.09 | Zhinjio | I almost feel human |
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| 23:42.24 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 23:42.28 | Fisker | enchantment? |
| 23:42.48 | kd3 | sec; just installed f12. busy dealing with that before wow stuff |
| 23:47.46 | kd3 | wonders how badly wow's going to run on noveau... |
| 23:49.33 | kd3 | whee; that assert was quick |
| 23:51.23 | bleeter | lol |
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| 23:59.05 | Kraps | epic lulcats http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2009/11/princess-diana-comicbook-biography-under-attack-in-britain.html |
