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| 00:09.59 | cogwheel | Shirik: C++ book fail... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1711990/c-weird-constructor-syntax |
| 00:12.16 | Thunder_Child | hmm....why 11-11 for the battle.net requirements |
| 00:13.44 | NightHawkTheSane | why NOT 11-11? |
| 00:13.51 | Lunessa | Because eventually you just have to pick a launch date. |
| 00:14.00 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
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| 00:16.05 | Thunder_Child | agreed, however i would assume the best time would be when the most ammount of people can not play, hence tuesday morning |
| 00:16.31 | NightHawkTheSane | well, remember, thursday is just the cutover date. |
| 00:16.43 | NightHawkTheSane | presumably, they used this tuesday's maintenence to put the last pieces in place |
| 00:16.57 | NightHawkTheSane | and thursday they'll probably just flip a (metaphoric) switch |
| 00:17.00 | Thunder_Child | right, but why not do it at the same time? |
| 00:17.19 | NightHawkTheSane | to give a few days to make sure nothing blew up during maintenence |
| 00:17.41 | Lopeppeppy | ^ |
| 00:17.44 | Thunder_Child | ah, but that would only affect the origional logins, not the battle.net ones |
| 00:17.56 | NightHawkTheSane | in theory, yes. |
| 00:17.56 | Lunessa | Might as well pick a time when your support staff is present to minimize delay in answering all the "WTF I CAN'T LOGIN!!!111one" calls |
| 00:18.06 | NightHawkTheSane | also ^ |
| 00:18.34 | Thunder_Child | oh, is the support staff not on duty tuesday morn? |
| 00:18.38 | NightHawkTheSane | though i expect support will be working long hours this weekend, poor bastards |
| 00:19.06 | Thunder_Child | s/morn/midday/ |
| 00:19.10 | Lunessa | I know support works pretty long hours, but I don't recall when the phone lines are actually open 'cause I've never called. |
| 00:19.13 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* they may also have other duties during then. |
| 00:20.11 | Thunder_Child | well no one can log in, in the morning anyway, so it shouldnt make a diff |
| 00:20.46 | Thunder_Child | and if it all goes crashing down anyway, it wouldnt really matter when it was done |
| 00:20.59 | Thunder_Child | hence my curiosity |
| 00:32.15 | DWSR | anyone got a link to why rogues weaponswap? |
| 00:32.57 | Thunder_Child | poisins |
| 00:33.05 | DWSR | right, but what do you do? |
| 00:33.16 | Thunder_Child | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/21043884738-rogue-weapon-swapping-isnt-a-big-deal.html |
| 00:35.46 | DWSR | So what, start with deadly, stack it to max, switch to wound? |
| 00:36.10 | Lunessa | DWSR: more or less, yes. |
| 00:37.37 | Lunessa | And I'm out. See you all tomorrow. |
| 00:37.55 | DWSR | Isn't Lunessa's quit msg a bit...inaccurate? |
| 00:38.05 | DWSR | Shouldn't it be... gone gone gone? |
| 00:39.59 | Lopeppeppy | Indigo, indigoing, indigone. |
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| 00:46.00 | NightHawkTheSane | vertigo, vertigoing, vertig--*puke* |
| 00:49.21 | Shirik | Adys: pong |
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| 01:20.26 | Antiarc | Welp! |
| 01:20.28 | Antiarc | "Now things are trending that the dps increase is significant and Adrine's mod is written so well that it takes a lot of the risk away, even in PvP. That weights things more towards doing something about it" |
| 01:20.32 | Antiarc | I think I just won WoW. |
| 01:21.53 | ScytheBlade1 | what mod? |
| 01:22.43 | Thunder_Child | poisonswapper |
| 01:22.51 | Thunder_Child | this is the title on mmo "Antiarc will get rogues nerfed" |
| 01:23.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: clearly |
| 01:23.58 | Antiarc | It turns out the WoW endgame isn't raiding. |
| 01:24.06 | Antiarc | The WoW endgame is bending the very fabric of the game to your will. |
| 01:24.07 | Thunder_Child | it isnt |
| 01:24.09 | Antiarc | MWAHAHAHA. |
| 01:24.10 | Thunder_Child | it's pvp |
| 01:24.22 | Jerub | isn't 3.3 also getting a thing that looks like QH built in? |
| 01:24.37 | Thunder_Child | not that i heard about |
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| 01:24.41 | ZorbaGama | yeah, it is |
| 01:24.47 | ZorbaGama | they're duplicating a good chunk of the QH location stuff |
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| 01:30.12 | mitchnull | is there a new meaning of "HK" that I'm not aware of? can't make sense of this post: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28439 |
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| 01:30.33 | mitchnull | (I'm puzzled about the " (low memory HK's only)" part |
| 01:30.54 | Cloudwolf | What event would i look for for a trinket proc? |
| 01:31.06 | Cloudwolf | !api trinket |
| 01:31.06 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'trinket'. |
| 01:31.33 | ZorbaGama | cloudwolf, probably an aura update or a spell succeeded. grab devtools, proc your trinket, and browse the recorded events. |
| 01:32.08 | ZorbaGama | mitch, it always makes me snicker slightly when I see "what codes" |
| 01:33.38 | mitchnull | zorba: I snicker whenever a see a commit report on LibLordFarlander :) |
| 01:34.38 | mitchnull | zorba: btw, did you get anywhere with your "proximty location" idea? |
| 01:34.51 | mitchnull | s/badspelling/goodspelling/ |
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| 01:37.05 | Ginji | http://pintumbler.org/Misc/eek/iron-my-shirt.jpg <-- does it make me sexist if I find that funny |
| 01:37.50 | mitchnull | nah, that's cool ;) |
| 01:37.57 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:38.06 | Lunessa | But it sure makes that guy a d-bag |
| 01:38.25 | Ginji | Only if he means it :P |
| 01:41.41 | Lopeppeppy | There's one in every crowd. |
| 01:44.45 | Lunessa | I'll admit I'm a guy who'll take a cheapshot for a laugh. I don't think I'd do that one though. |
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| 01:48.58 | Ginji | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y <-- not as bad as this guy 0:20 |
| 01:50.00 | Ginji | And he's even serious! |
| 01:51.17 | Adys | blows Shirik up |
| 01:51.22 | Shirik | Adys |
| 01:51.25 | Shirik | I think I finally got it |
| 01:51.33 | Shirik | p.s. f CMake :P |
| 01:51.48 | Adys | i didnt choose that |
| 01:51.59 | Adys | I'm not the one screwing around compiled languages |
| 01:52.05 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:52.44 | Ginji | Isn't cmake that fancy makefile thingy? |
| 01:52.49 | Shirik | yes |
| 01:52.52 | Shirik | but it REALLY hates assembly files |
| 01:52.56 | Cloudwolf | Humanity makes me sad ginji that video is gonna make me shoot someone... |
| 01:52.56 | Shirik | like at first it just plain ignores them |
| 01:53.12 | Shirik | Then when you try to force them down its throat, it acts like a baby and makes you regret every second |
| 01:53.28 | Shirik | I finally got the commands to work |
| 01:54.26 | Adys | typoing urls in chrome is fun |
| 01:54.27 | Adys | http://www.google.gr/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=h |
| 01:54.29 | Ginji | But why work with assembly |
| 01:54.31 | Adys | Planck's constant = 6.626068 Ã 10-34 m2 kg / s |
| 01:54.37 | Shirik | oh that's the best part |
| 01:54.40 | Shirik | I'm not |
| 01:54.50 | Shirik | I'm using a library whose build process involves generation of assembly |
| 01:54.52 | Shirik | which is then linked in |
| 01:54.58 | Cloudwolf | I wonder how many people at that protsting health care actualy have healthcare... |
| 01:55.07 | Shirik | so I get the ADDED benefit of trying to convince CMake that a file that currently doesn't exist WILL exist sometime through the build process |
| 01:55.27 | Lopeppeppy | applauds Shirik's stubbornness! |
| 01:56.04 | Adys | i got so many contacts on wave |
| 01:56.11 | Adys | like half of them from public mailing lists |
| 01:56.12 | Ginji | Cloudwolf: the problem really lies in the lack of information people are getting |
| 01:56.13 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 01:56.19 | Cloudwolf | I know that Ginji |
| 01:56.20 | Ginji | or abundance of misinformation |
| 01:56.36 | Cloudwolf | which is the news' fault along with the fact that america is bi partisan |
| 01:56.42 | Cloudwolf | its 2 levels of extremes that try to control their people |
| 01:57.22 | Shirik | Cloudwolf: I have healthcare and I have a problem with it |
| 01:57.32 | Ginji | *sings* "It's all about the money" *sings* |
| 01:57.33 | Shirik | I am not personally affected by it, but I know others who are |
| 01:58.20 | Ginji | But is it really true you get screwed by your healthcare provider if you send them too many bills? |
| 01:58.42 | Bruners | how is this health care thing bad for you? |
| 01:58.53 | Ginji | And why has my Kawaii-Radio stopped playing |
| 01:58.55 | Shirik | Bruners: That is a very personal question and I'm not going to get into it |
| 01:59.04 | Shirik | Ginji: That's not really the problem |
| 01:59.20 | Ginji | Kawaii-Radio? |
| 01:59.23 | Shirik | The problem is the restrictions that things like Medicare are imposing are impractical and essentially aren't health care |
| 01:59.56 | Cloudwolf | Shirik are you pro or anti Public option? |
| 02:00.03 | Shirik | I don't know |
| 02:00.09 | Cloudwolf | Neutral then heh |
| 02:00.17 | Shirik | I have a problem with both sides |
| 02:00.18 | Ginji | I don't know the exact details of the obamacare package, but public health care can't be bad |
| 02:00.24 | Bruners | i dont see how free health care for everyone can be bad |
| 02:00.28 | Lopeppeppy | I would be pro anything that would actually cover my routine health care. But as Shirik says, I have problems with both sides. |
| 02:00.29 | Shirik | Because it's not free |
| 02:00.31 | Ginji | It's not free |
| 02:00.32 | Cloudwolf | The issue is the money |
| 02:00.44 | Cloudwolf | It has to come from somewhere aka taxes |
| 02:00.46 | Ginji | You end up paying for it one way or the other |
| 02:00.47 | DWSR | In Rawr, is there a way to list gear upgrades? |
| 02:00.54 | DWSR | And by gear, I mean ONLY gear, no gemmings. |
| 02:01.05 | Bruners | well yes, you pay it with taxes |
| 02:01.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Bruners: the issue is that the rich are greedy, and the poor are uninformed. ;) |
| 02:01.20 | Shirik | I'm not greedy.... |
| 02:01.37 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane Way to twist it. :P |
| 02:01.43 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 02:01.44 | Bruners | i just wish our dental care was in our health care |
| 02:01.49 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, that was a pretty harsh generalization, i admit :) |
| 02:02.00 | Lunessa | And wrong. :P |
| 02:02.20 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* no more wrong than most of the lies being spewed by most of the mass media |
| 02:03.03 | Cloudwolf | I wish that it wasn't bipartisan and that it had many more smaller parties rather than 2 large ones and a billion insignificant ones... |
| 02:03.17 | Lunessa | Still, I'm anti-public option on the basis of I don't want to pay everyone's medical bills... and I'm not rich. |
| 02:03.22 | NightHawkTheSane | wouldn't matter if it did |
| 02:03.29 | NightHawkTheSane | it would eventually coalesce to 2 parties |
| 02:03.41 | Shirik | This is an issue that just has 2 sides |
| 02:03.58 | Cloudwolf | Lunessa but what about the idea of if the public option is basically = or better than your current health care the fact that the job no longer has to provide it and that your wage quite possibly could go up. |
| 02:04.00 | Shirik | you can't choose 3 ways on flipping a coin |
| 02:04.00 | NightHawkTheSane | the nature of our electoral system doesnt really work with more than 2 major parties |
| 02:04.30 | Cloudwolf | NightHawkTheSane im not saying that it would i have issues with the level of control the 2 parties have over the common person. |
| 02:04.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: its not a coin, though, its a scale. |
| 02:04.33 | Ginji | So, basically, you want me as your dictator |
| 02:04.43 | Lopeppeppy | welcome to the jungle, do you want fries with that |
| 02:04.51 | Jerub | 'paying other people's medical bills' is such a weird way of saying it. |
| 02:04.54 | Lunessa | Cloudwolf if that was really the plan, and REALLY wan't going ot come from my taxes... |
| 02:04.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Cloudwolf: they have no control. |
| 02:05.02 | Jerub | you're not paying other people's bills, you're paying for hospitals. |
| 02:05.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Cloudwolf: the mass media is the ones with the control over the mindset of the people. |
| 02:05.37 | Cloudwolf | Fox is republican. And many other news stations are biased one way or the other. |
| 02:05.52 | Ginji | I suggest you watch the documentary of what's his name about public health care |
| 02:05.54 | NightHawkTheSane | news stations without bias are liars. :) |
| 02:05.56 | Cloudwolf | And I agree it is the mass media. |
| 02:06.08 | Jerub | Ginji: that documentary was a pack of lies. |
| 02:06.25 | Lunessa | Michael Moore? Please |
| 02:06.28 | NightHawkTheSane | but yeah, certain stations obviously lean one way or another, some more overtly, or idiotically than others |
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| 02:06.40 | NightHawkTheSane | but the difference is important. |
| 02:08.18 | Ginji | Lies or not, public health care does work |
| 02:08.19 | NightHawkTheSane | michael more is the o'reilly of the left wing. except perhaps a tad less dumb. |
| 02:08.30 | Cloudwolf | To bad I have no real say in this reform period I'm not of age to vote... Oh well... |
| 02:08.47 | Ginji | It's not like you have a say anyway |
| 02:08.49 | Cloudwolf | And i know its senate and congress that has to pass it along with president. |
| 02:08.53 | Cloudwolf | i know Ginji |
| 02:09.18 | Ginji | I only vote to have the right to bitch and moan |
| 02:09.34 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ pathetic. |
| 02:09.37 | Ginji | Not because I think my vote will matter :P |
| 02:09.43 | Ginji | Because it doesn't |
| 02:10.19 | Jerub | heh, american voting. |
| 02:10.20 | Jerub | hilarious. |
| 02:10.29 | Ginji | I'm not an american :P |
| 02:10.38 | Cloudwolf | O.o |
| 02:10.44 | Cloudwolf | what are you ginji? |
| 02:10.50 | Ginji | Dutch! |
| 02:10.58 | Lopeppeppy | If you want to have an effect, call your senator/representative and talk to them. :) They listen, even when you just get their voicemail or their toll-taker. |
| 02:11.02 | NightHawkTheSane | unless your voting system is overtly corrupted, the idea that a vote has no meaning is one of the biggest lies perpetrated by those trying to maintain teh status quo. |
| 02:11.03 | Lunessa | Moore is a pundit and glorified Castro. Not exactly a guy I want to take direction from. |
| 02:11.22 | Lunessa | O'Riely is also not someone I want to take direction from. |
| 02:11.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: exactly, more or less two sides of the same coin they are. |
| 02:11.46 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: your voting system is damaged in astounding ways. |
| 02:11.52 | Lunessa | Only you think Moore isn't stupid. :P |
| 02:11.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: yes, yes it is. >< |
| 02:11.55 | Ginji | But they at least show some part of the true story |
| 02:12.52 | Jerub | micheal moore's documentary made the mistake of taking things too far in the name of shock value, and lost its journalistic integrity. |
| 02:12.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: he's extremist, kinda dumb, and a blowhard. But the sheer idioticy of the things he says is just a bit shy of o'reily :P |
| 02:12.57 | Ginji | NightHawkTheSane: No, it's a fact, my vote doesn't matter. It's the 16m other votes that matter |
| 02:13.11 | Jerub | sure, he had really good valid points, but he muddled them in the editing process. |
| 02:13.15 | Ginji | The world wouldn't be any different if I hadn't voted on that day |
| 02:13.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ untrue. |
| 02:14.00 | Jerub | in australia, funding of government parties is partially dependant on who gets how many votes. |
| 02:14.10 | Jerub | so in a real material way who you vote for matters even if they lose. |
| 02:14.30 | NightHawkTheSane | voting statistics would have changed, slightly. enough of those changes can cause trends, trends which are reported on, and inflence how people behave. |
| 02:14.40 | Lunessa | When people say "My vote doesn't matter" what they really mean is "I'm not going to get what I want so sod it." |
| 02:15.03 | Jerub | don't you murrkians vote on a weekday? |
| 02:15.15 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 02:15.18 | NightHawkTheSane | tuesday, typically |
| 02:15.29 | Ginji | Lunessa: it only matters because you add all those people together |
| 02:15.31 | Ginji | Then it matters |
| 02:15.41 | Lunessa | We vote lots... those of us who do. Local elections, national ones, all kinds of times. |
| 02:16.04 | Lunessa | Ginji - That's the general theory behind a democracy and a republic. |
| 02:16.24 | Lopeppeppy | Add yourself to the "together". |
| 02:16.26 | NightHawkTheSane | which reminds me.. late votes in the local mayor race here swung it from being within 500 votes to a margin of over 2k. that was pretty awesome. |
| 02:16.37 | Ginji | Lopeppeppy: And that I didn't do |
| 02:16.41 | Lopeppeppy | tsk tsk |
| 02:16.59 | Lopeppeppy | I do a lot of absentee ballots, because I despise polling places. But I still vote. |
| 02:17.22 | Shirik | you can do that? |
| 02:17.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: WA state has voting by mail across the board. it's awesome :) |
| 02:17.39 | Shirik | VA requires that you fit into certain categories to be able to do an absentee ballot |
| 02:17.41 | NightHawkTheSane | i just get a ballot in the mail, fill it out, and send it in. no muss, no fuss. |
| 02:17.49 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, you can do absentee ballots, Shirik... requires some categories too. |
| 02:17.50 | Shirik | one of them I happen to fit in, out-of-state student |
| 02:17.54 | Ginji | So Jerub how are you enjoying the great firewall of australia :P |
| 02:18.02 | Shirik | VA is pretty restrictive on who can do absentee ballots |
| 02:18.06 | Cloudwolf | NightHawkTheSane I live in WA also O.o... |
| 02:18.26 | Shirik | you have to be working for more than 10 hours in the day, out-of-state student, on vacation/business out-of-state, etc. |
| 02:18.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: i never understood that. all pointles restrictions like that do is make less people vote. |
| 02:18.33 | Shirik | I guess you could just say "hey I'm on vacation!" |
| 02:18.39 | NightHawkTheSane | (which, in hindsight, is probably entirely the point) |
| 02:18.49 | Lunessa | I liked living in VA. I'd strongly consider moving back there if employment were in the offer. |
| 02:18.55 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane: I think it's because of how much additional work absentee ballots require |
| 02:19.21 | Shirik | if they didn't do it, they might have 10x as many votes, but also 100x as much work, etc. |
| 02:19.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: i call bs there. as i said, WA does mailin ballots for everyone. we have no real issue |
| 02:19.27 | Shirik | (exaggerated, but yeah) |
| 02:19.36 | Shirik | WA is a bunch of trees |
| 02:19.43 | Shirik | VA actually has people living in it |
| 02:19.47 | Lopeppeppy | I work in a different county than I live. Therefore, "unavoidably absent from my county on election day" works! |
| 02:20.06 | Shirik | that being said, I <3 WA and very much intend to live there |
| 02:20.23 | Shirik | Best part == living on the border of WA and OR |
| 02:20.27 | Shirik | WA = no income tax, OR = no sales tax |
| 02:20.30 | Shirik | == I win |
| 02:20.44 | Ginji | Silly borders |
| 02:21.05 | Ginji | You call it the USA but it doesn't look that united to me |
| 02:21.08 | DWSR | Just downed heroic beasts! :D |
| 02:21.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Ginji: cause we're not really. :P |
| 02:21.17 | Shirik | ^ |
| 02:21.22 | Lunessa | More so than Europe. |
| 02:21.28 | NightHawkTheSane | differing state & federal taxation is silly |
| 02:21.30 | Ginji | Texas is it's own country right? :P |
| 02:21.33 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 02:21.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Ginji: if only. >< |
| 02:21.47 | Shirik | I would have no problem getting rid of west virginia |
| 02:21.48 | NightHawkTheSane | er.. <3 Lunessa :D |
| 02:21.59 | Lunessa | GinjiWe used to have the option, but we gave it up to suck on the Federal Teat. |
| 02:22.20 | Shirik | Is that what they're teaching you these days? |
| 02:22.33 | Shirik | True story: They tried to leave, then they got owned IN THE FACE |
| 02:22.46 | Ginji | Hah the day Europe unites is the day I'll stop watching anime |
| 02:22.49 | Lunessa | Half the fucking country tried to leave. |
| 02:22.57 | Shirik | and they got OWNED IN THE FACE |
| 02:23.12 | Shirik | actually tbh the south should have won |
| 02:23.19 | Shirik | I still can't quite figure out how they didn't |
| 02:23.31 | Lunessa | Yeah. Go Go ideals of freedom as enshirned in our founding documents. |
| 02:23.38 | Lopeppeppy | "If the South would've won, we'd have had it made! I'd probably run for president of the southern states!" |
| 02:24.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: er, how do you figure they should have won? i'm just curious |
| 02:24.10 | Shirik | They were winning for the majority of the civil war |
| 02:24.17 | Lopeppeppy | There was a lot of tactical advantage. |
| 02:24.17 | Ginji | And I still think the "right to bear arms" should be about everyone having the right to wear a pair of bear arms |
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| 02:24.58 | WobWork | http://www.seek.com.au/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=78&PageNumber=1&jobid=16306419 |
| 02:25.05 | WobWork | check out the submission email address =P |
| 02:25.11 | Lunessa | Shirik The COnfederacy lacked the industrial capacity of the north, and squandered most of it's advanatage with stpid milatary commanders. |
| 02:25.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: sure, but germany was winning for a lot of ww2 too :P |
| 02:25.31 | Ginji | http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/134 |
| 02:26.09 | NightHawkTheSane | (point being, winning the battles doesnt mean you won the war) |
| 02:26.12 | Lopeppeppy | They did get cocky there. |
| 02:26.31 | WobWork | Ginji: Facehoof there is awesome |
| 02:26.44 | NightHawkTheSane | and yeah, the north generally had a greater warmaking capacity & transportation system |
| 02:27.00 | Ginji | West side is teh best! |
| 02:27.30 | WobWork | When you're a Jet, you're a Jet all the way? |
| 02:27.48 | Ginji | I wish I had a magic bubble to explore what could have been |
| 02:28.07 | Lopeppeppy | You'd be bored. It's never big enough to see, it's always in the details. |
| 02:28.26 | Lunessa | Lots of people believe that Slavery was the only and consuming issue. It wasn't. There's a lot to learn about how people govern and live by studying that war. |
| 02:29.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: people who believe that should have had a better education :( |
| 02:29.15 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane: Sure, but you don't win the war without winning battles |
| 02:29.18 | Lopeppeppy | They still believe Columbus was awesome, too! |
| 02:29.21 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane Very true. |
| 02:29.34 | Lunessa | Columbus was interesting, and did something awesome. |
| 02:29.47 | Ginji | Tesla was more awesome |
| 02:29.51 | Lunessa | He talked Isabella out of a fortune. |
| 02:29.51 | Yssaril | Shirik: you do if you spend all your resources without taking all of your enemys so you are left with nothing and they just come back and win |
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| 02:31.26 | Ginji | It's awesome how all of this started with "Iron my shirt Bitch" |
| 02:31.50 | NightHawkTheSane | on another note entirely.. WOO TMBG IN A FEW HOURS! |
| 02:31.56 | NightHawkTheSane | bounces. |
| 02:32.03 | Lunessa | Ginji - Iron my shirt, boy. Then take out the papers and the trash. Or you don't get no spending cash! |
| 02:32.05 | Ginji | tmbg? |
| 02:32.12 | Thunder_Child | they might be giants |
| 02:32.13 | NightHawkTheSane | They Might Be Giants! |
| 02:32.20 | NightHawkTheSane | and they're playing all of Flood! |
| 02:32.20 | Shirik | or not |
| 02:32.24 | Ginji | Oh I'd be a houseman if given the option |
| 02:32.39 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane On tv? |
| 02:32.40 | Lopeppeppy | NHTS, enjoy the show. |
| 02:32.46 | Lunessa | Or live? |
| 02:32.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: in a concert, that i'm going to. |
| 02:32.52 | NightHawkTheSane | tonight. |
| 02:33.01 | NightHawkTheSane | live! |
| 02:33.05 | Thunder_Child | i never did understand the interest in a concert |
| 02:33.06 | Lopeppeppy | Dead! |
| 02:33.11 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane Normally, this is not true but right now... HATE YOU SO MUCH. |
| 02:33.16 | NightHawkTheSane | <3 |
| 02:33.23 | Ginji | I've never heard of them |
| 02:33.56 | Lopeppeppy | DIAF. |
| 02:34.08 | NightHawkTheSane | you poor boy.. |
| 02:34.09 | Ginji | Die In a Fire? |
| 02:34.10 | Lopeppeppy | For serious. Go visit YouTube for education |
| 02:34.19 | Lunessa | He's too young Lopeppeppy, luv. |
| 02:34.32 | Lopeppeppy | Puppies. |
| 02:34.37 | Lunessa | The Sun is a mass of incandescent gass... |
| 02:34.45 | Lopeppeppy | Pumba, with you, everything is gas. |
| 02:34.47 | Ginji | Hah! I was right! |
| 02:34.52 | Seerah | what?!? NHTS is seeing TMBG tonight? :( |
| 02:35.03 | NightHawkTheSane | is! |
| 02:35.05 | Lopeppeppy | I know, let's kill him and steal his tickets. |
| 02:35.09 | Seerah | is jealous |
| 02:35.15 | Lunessa | Take his pollen. |
| 02:35.17 | Lopeppeppy | We're short, we can pass as one person! |
| 02:35.20 | Seerah | think you can fit a gnome in your pocket? |
| 02:35.24 | Seerah | teehee! |
| 02:35.43 | Shirik | I can sneak in too |
| 02:35.50 | Shirik | they wouldn't be able to see me if I turn on my side |
| 02:35.53 | Lopeppeppy | You're thin, you can hide under our coat. |
| 02:35.56 | NightHawkTheSane | i think there might still be tickets available ;) if you can get to seattle fast enough :P |
| 02:36.05 | Ginji | So, what's the most awesome number of TMBG |
| 02:36.06 | Lunessa | You know it's pretty sad, I'm looking to do a heroic, and like half my guild is in this channel. |
| 02:36.08 | Lopeppeppy | Um... prolly not, but thanks for the offer! |
| 02:36.19 | Lopeppeppy | feels awful! Grow her a new hand! |
| 02:36.37 | Lopeppeppy | Do not want surgery for christmas. *sigh* |
| 02:36.44 | Lunessa | loves Lopeppeppy and wishes her a speedy recovery. |
| 02:37.14 | Lopeppeppy | Particle Man! |
| 02:37.43 | Seerah | Ginji: 2 for your viewing pleasure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN2N44BzJ84 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeQ-wjDH4F4 |
| 02:37.51 | Seerah | (the first one's Particle Man) |
| 02:38.21 | Lunessa | Build a little birdhouse in your soul! |
| 02:38.22 | NightHawkTheSane | what's the second? |
| 02:38.24 | Seerah | Ginji: did you watch Malcom in the Middle? |
| 02:38.32 | Seerah | NHTS: Istanbul |
| 02:38.34 | Lopeppeppy | Istanbul! |
| 02:38.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Seerah: good call :) |
| 02:38.42 | Ginji | Seerah: what? |
| 02:38.52 | Seerah | the tv show, malcom in the middle |
| 02:38.59 | Ginji | I don't think that aired in holland |
| 02:39.00 | Seerah | tmbg did the theme song |
| 02:39.02 | Seerah | ah |
| 02:39.16 | Seerah | little birdhouse in your soul is a good one, too |
| 02:41.05 | Seerah | birdhouse in your soul: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObbAbGaVlas |
| 02:41.17 | Ginji | I'm too young |
| 02:41.24 | Seerah | too young? |
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| 02:41.41 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy and Seerah are too young too |
| 02:41.47 | Shirik | I will have to accompany them |
| 02:42.08 | Seerah | looks at shirik and blinks |
| 02:42.17 | Lunessa | I got the impression that Ginji would be denied entry to an 'R' rated movie. |
| 02:42.19 | Shirik | you should get your eyes checked |
| 02:42.32 | Seerah | I did, actually, on Sunday |
| 02:42.48 | Ginji | Lunessa: not that young |
| 02:42.49 | Seerah | I have slight astigmatism and congenital cataracts |
| 02:43.03 | Lunessa | Seerah You hace the OMG KAWAII factor working against you. |
| 02:43.03 | Seerah | but, if I got readers, I'd only need a .5 |
| 02:44.01 | Lunessa | And I haven't been carded for anything since my facial hair started growing. |
| 02:44.01 | Seerah | yeah, our friend is the optometrist, and she made my hubby look at the pretty sparklies in my eyes :p |
| 02:44.41 | Ginji | They place diamonds in eyes nowadays? |
| 02:44.55 | Lopeppeppy | In Seerah's eyes they do! She's lovely. |
| 02:45.05 | Seerah | awww... /sniff :) |
| 02:45.06 | Ginji | I've seen them mounted on teeth |
| 02:45.09 | Seerah | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 02:45.10 | Lunessa | Seerah in the sky, with diamonds? |
| 02:45.19 | Ginji | Hah! Know that song! |
| 02:45.24 | Lopeppeppy | *purr* |
| 02:45.45 | Lopeppeppy | I need to go to bed now, I've brooded and grumped long enough. |
| 02:45.56 | cog|away | Duman: fix faecbuk damit! |
| 02:46.01 | Seerah | night night, peppy |
| 02:46.23 | Ginji | Bah! Cold feet! |
| 02:46.24 | Seerah | I've gotta take the puppy out, then I might log in to wow and actually play!!! |
| 02:47.29 | Ginji | I want that electronic body suit, to force warm blood to my extremities |
| 02:48.02 | Ginji | It's like clothes, but more geeky |
| 02:48.18 | cogwheel | So uh... death, murder, incest, fisker, tekkub |
| 02:48.28 | cogwheel | (sorry... getting a bit too gushy in here :P ) |
| 02:48.53 | cogwheel | grumbles at fb |
| 02:49.06 | Ginji | from bad to less bad ? |
| 02:49.21 | Ginji | No, that would be odd |
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| 02:52.19 | cogwheel | the notifications popup doesn't scroll and extends off the top of the page. on top of that, you can't get to Notifications from the inbox anymore |
| 02:52.36 | cogwheel | hugs his droid |
| 02:53.01 | Hirsute | cogwheel: Motorola or HTC? |
| 02:53.08 | cogwheel | moto |
| 02:53.19 | Hirsute | Liking it, it sounds like? |
| 02:53.23 | cogwheel | =D |
| 02:53.35 | Hirsute | The geek in me drools over it. |
| 02:55.09 | cogwheel | standard disclaimer: i came from a centro so anything smartphone-wise would've been an improvement. plus i have no practical experience with iphone, blackberries, etc. |
| 02:56.15 | Hirsute | I have an iPod touch, but ATT is not my carrier of choice, so the iPhone has never been an option. If I were to switch carriers, I'd switch to Verizon, and either of the droid phones is looking downright sexy. |
| 02:56.36 | cogwheel | brb |
| 02:57.03 | Ginji | Nokia N900! |
| 02:58.52 | cog|away | i'm now on my droid sshed into my home server :D |
| 02:58.56 | A-KO | verizon offers no real benefit over ATT |
| 02:58.58 | A-KO | :P |
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| 02:59.07 | A-KO | no using 3G while talking is pretty bad for iphone usage |
| 02:59.19 | A-KO | when you're trying to tell someone where something is and talking.... |
| 02:59.20 | WobWork | Dr Worm is pretty awesome |
| 02:59.22 | cog|away | A-KO: there's a map for that |
| 02:59.26 | WobWork | and... I am not your broom |
| 02:59.32 | A-KO | cog|away: a map while you're not using the phone to talk, sure :P |
| 02:59.38 | Ginji | Bah |
| 02:59.43 | A-KO | but otherwise, it's exactly the same. Perhaps if you lived in an area w/o AT&T's 3G coverage |
| 02:59.49 | Ginji | Amarok is dying onme |
| 02:59.53 | A-KO | oh, and AT&T's iphone plan does not have a 5G limit :P |
| 03:00.17 | Ginji | "It's unlimited! Limited by 5G"! |
| 03:00.18 | A-KO | will probably get it if/when they offer tethering though |
| 03:00.26 | A-KO | but for right now, it does not. |
| 03:01.15 | Hirsute | A-KO: Maybe not where you are, but where I am, Verizon's coverage is much, much better than ATTs, I'd call that a significant benefit. |
| 03:01.33 | cog|away | no. i live in an area of suburban sprawl mixed with agriculture and hills. carrier makes a huge difference here |
| 03:01.59 | A-KO | I live in the DC/Baltimore corridor :P |
| 03:02.16 | cog|away | going back so i can type faster :P |
| 03:02.21 | A-KO | AT&T coverage is rarely an issue, it does drop calls--but again, you could talk to almost anyone and you'll find people who have dropped calls all day long on every carrier. |
| 03:02.30 | Ginji | All carriers are assholes, but that's different matter |
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| 03:02.50 | A-KO | I've had AT&T coverage in the oddest of locations, too |
| 03:02.57 | A-KO | down I-75 in Tennessee, for example. |
| 03:03.01 | Hirsute | Again, perhaps where you are. ATT coverage is pretty bad where I am. |
| 03:03.04 | A-KO | but not in the boonies of PA |
| 03:03.25 | A-KO | driving through the middle of amish land I get no service at all |
| 03:03.34 | cog|away | I love android's google voice app... and i love google voice |
| 03:03.47 | A-KO | I've got gv mobile on my iphone (got it before it was removed from the store) |
| 03:03.58 | A-KO | and google's web app interface works well enough |
| 03:04.16 | NightHawkAtTMBG | :D |
| 03:04.19 | NightHawkAtTMBG | later folks :) |
| 03:04.29 | Ginji | bay-ni, have fun |
| 03:04.58 | Ginji | hmm, more like Bai-Ni |
| 03:11.00 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* an hour and a half and 2 million+ files scanned and i'm not off my first drive. |
| 03:11.17 | kd3 | 2 million files? |
| 03:11.21 | kd3 | you've got too much crap |
| 03:11.32 | Thunder_Child | this is just my app drive |
| 03:13.49 | Shirik | kd3 just said you have too much crap |
| 03:13.55 | Shirik | that's when you know there's a problem |
| 03:17.21 | ScytheBlade1 | hey Shirik |
| 03:17.25 | ScytheBlade1 | better test Shiibot |
| 03:17.26 | ScytheBlade1 | http://blog.freenode.net/2009/11/testing-the-nets/ |
| 03:17.29 | ScytheBlade1 | afk sleep |
| 03:17.47 | cogwheel | http://oreilly.com/catalog/9781593271947 |
| 03:22.43 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: I will, but Shiibot really doesn't do anything abnormal |
| 03:22.49 | cogwheel | so... the whole droid invasion advertising campaign... i take it there are plenty of android phones on the way for the holidays? |
| 03:23.18 | cogwheel | (or at least soon thereafter) |
| 03:24.13 | Dagmar | There's at least seven that I know of |
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| 03:26.20 | Iriel | Some of us already have android phones, we were the ones who had a signal at blizzcon (unlike the iPhone users) |
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| 03:29.58 | kd3 | so wait... the verizon ads aren't lying? |
| 03:29.59 | kd3 | gasp |
| 03:30.07 | kd3 | looks at his cheapass verizon phone and laugh |
| 03:30.34 | Seerah | I had a signal at BlizzCon without an android phone |
| 03:31.20 | Iriel | I was making a dig at iPhone users, more than anything 8-) |
| 03:31.33 | Seerah | :D |
| 03:31.47 | Seerah | it still works - I'm on Verizon ;) |
| 03:32.05 | kd3 | the bad thing is... I was planning on getting an iphone until I heard about the at&t lockin |
| 03:32.20 | kd3 | >.> |
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| 03:35.49 | Legorol | Ironical how mining works: I headed into Icecrown to mine one Eternal Shadow (10 crystallines). I didn't manage, but I mined 300g worth of Titanium. |
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| 03:37.26 | Legorol | gnight peeps |
| 03:43.06 | Cloudwolf | Hmm the default wow key bindingd dont support mouse buttons as modifiers do they? |
| 03:43.25 | Thunder_Child | they might |
| 03:43.34 | Seerah | no. Only if you use your mouse driver software to make the buttons imitate ctrl, etc |
| 03:43.59 | Cloudwolf | guess i gota find my mouse drivers again |
| 03:44.02 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 03:44.04 | Cloudwolf | cus i know my mouse cna do that |
| 03:47.32 | kd3 | gah. power blinks |
| 03:47.34 | kd3 | heart attacks |
| 03:47.36 | kd3 | gah |
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| 03:47.44 | Cloudwolf | almost got rogue owned? |
| 03:47.54 | kd3 | wonders if his modem's still up |
| 03:49.24 | Seerah | kd3: yes |
| 03:50.00 | kd3 | yay. now to see what got fried |
| 03:50.11 | kd3 | can smell the magic smoke coming from somewhere |
| 03:51.43 | Cloudwolf | there we go now i can use my mouse buttonas ctrl huzzah |
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| 03:57.21 | Thunder_Child | passed 3 million, same HD |
| 04:01.31 | Dagmar | You know, some people erase their porn after they've downloaded and "had their way" with it |
| 04:03.23 | Thunder_Child | like i said, app's drive |
| 04:03.39 | Thunder_Child | just installed programs |
| 04:05.41 | Hirsute | How many copies of Leisure Suit larry do you need, man? |
| 04:06.10 | Thunder_Child | 0, that game was boring |
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| 04:16.14 | Arrowmaster | grr i can only get 31seconds on the pit at the beginning of MW2 |
| 04:16.20 | cogwheel | i swear every australian podcast i listen to mentions AC/DC every chance they can get >< |
| 04:16.40 | Jerub | okay, anyone more of you cats need wave invites? I have 29 left ;) |
| 04:17.04 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:17.26 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 04:17.35 | Hirsute | Jerub: Yes please! |
| 04:17.36 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: didn't I already give you one? |
| 04:17.45 | Thunder_Child | not that i am ware of |
| 04:17.48 | Thunder_Child | aware* |
| 04:17.58 | Jerub | kk, anyway, anyone who wants one, msg me your email address |
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| 04:25.57 | Arrowmaster | bah 31.2seconds 100% accuracy |
| 04:27.54 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah much better 29.05 seconds 104% accuracy |
| 04:32.04 | Arrowmaster | select difficulty, veteran, are you sure, yes, are you absolutely sure, yes, veteran is extremely difficult are you certain you want to play at veteran difficulty?, yes |
| 04:32.16 | Arrowmaster | had to confirm 3 times |
| 04:33.15 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, you should select venteran, start the game, instantly die then get asked if you want to play veteran |
| 04:33.24 | Thunder_Child | far more amusing |
| 04:36.04 | Arrowmaster | lol i got an achievement for killing 3 people with the nade launcher accidently during the first fight of the game |
| 04:36.27 | Thunder_Child | fallout? |
| 04:36.37 | Arrowmaster | modern warfare 2 |
| 04:37.15 | Arrowmaster | first fight your across the river from the enemy and the commany is like 'chuck some nade across that river' so i launch one and get an achievement |
| 04:37.28 | Arrowmaster | s/commany/commander/ |
| 04:37.45 | A-KO | cod:mw2 rules |
| 04:37.47 | A-KO | hands down so far |
| 04:37.47 | kd3 | "way to follow instructions" |
| 04:38.19 | Arrowmaster | was playing online for a few hours before i started single player |
| 04:39.39 | Thunder_Child | bass ackwards |
| 04:45.06 | Thunder_Child | 4 million +, same hd |
| 04:47.11 | Yssaril | Thunder_Child: what are you doing? |
| 04:47.31 | Thunder_Child | Yssaril, AV scan |
| 04:47.37 | Yssaril | ahh |
| 04:48.04 | Thunder_Child | it's been over 3 hours with 4 million+ files on the same drive....and it's iritating |
| 04:48.25 | Yssaril | pause it and restart it when you go to bed? |
| 04:48.46 | Thunder_Child | i have 4 more drives, not sure it will be done in the morning |
| 04:49.10 | Thunder_Child | though once it stopps with the A: drive i can go back to mindless playing |
| 04:49.22 | Yssaril | pause it and restart it when you take a vacation? |
| 04:49.34 | Thunder_Child | soooo...never then |
| 04:49.52 | Yssaril | what AV are you using? |
| 04:50.00 | Thunder_Child | MSE |
| 04:50.09 | Thunder_Child | decided to give it a test run |
| 04:51.18 | Yssaril | hehe what did you use before? |
| 04:51.28 | Thunder_Child | ESET |
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| 04:53.25 | Thunder_Child | Jerub, no love? or does it take some time? |
| 04:53.39 | Jerub | it takes time. |
| 04:53.49 | Thunder_Child | ah, ok |
| 04:53.53 | Jerub | they've got a lot of stamps to lick, so to speak. |
| 04:54.08 | Jerub | the first round took >48 hour to get out. |
| 04:54.09 | Thunder_Child | isnt it automated? |
| 04:54.38 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: they use 100% pure pigeon saliva to lick the stamps. |
| 04:56.40 | Thunder_Child | Jerub, only the best for us i see |
| 04:58.36 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5401592/tales-of-human-upgrades-jerry-jalavas-usb-finger |
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| 05:26.22 | Seerah | Torhal-: you're kinda "troll-y" tonight :p |
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| 05:30.56 | Shirik | ooooo |
| 05:31.01 | Shirik | Blackberry OS 5 is nice |
| 05:31.06 | Shirik | I finally got the time to install it |
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| 05:49.04 | Jerub | this golang looks interesting. |
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| 05:52.21 | Ancu | Hello all |
| 05:58.07 | Cairenn | hi Ancu |
| 05:58.34 | Shirik | hi |
| 06:01.43 | Ancu | wow, 7 mins for a response, are we that slow, or are you guys? |
| 06:02.05 | Shirik | :( |
| 06:02.15 | Shirik | I'm busy |
| 06:04.23 | Yssaril | Shirik: did you ever figure out the max escape velocity problem? |
| 06:04.28 | Shirik | lol no |
| 06:04.42 | Cairenn | I was busy put up a news post on our sites :p |
| 06:09.34 | Shirik | because Cairenn is our sugar bear |
| 06:09.40 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:10.12 | Thunder_Child | Jerub, slower than i thought but faster than you thought |
| 06:10.48 | Fisker | captures Shirik |
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| 06:11.30 | Shirik | Fisker, you cannot capture me |
| 06:11.38 | Yssaril | Fisker: btw i thought it over and made the Loot frame expandable :) |
| 06:11.39 | Shirik | you need the master ball |
| 06:13.11 | Fisker | i already did Shirik |
| 06:13.57 | Jerub | Cairenn: did you want a google wave invite? |
| 06:14.16 | Cairenn | perks up |
| 06:14.21 | Cairenn | not sure you can, though, I'm in Canada |
| 06:14.25 | Shirik | Cairenn is always perky, don't let her lie |
| 06:14.28 | Shirik | .... |
| 06:14.34 | Shirik | wave is not restricted by country :P |
| 06:14.41 | Jerub | Cairenn: I'm in australia |
| 06:14.45 | Cairenn | I can't get Google Voice because I'm in Canada, not sure I can get ... |
| 06:14.46 | Jerub | this isn't google phone |
| 06:14.49 | Thunder_Child | thanks for that mental image there Shirik |
| 06:14.50 | Cairenn | well fine then :p |
| 06:15.09 | Shirik | in the words of the immortal zenzelezz, it's your fault for being dirty |
| 06:16.06 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:16.13 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:16.22 | Thunder_Child | yes Shirik i am, but i didnt cause the spark |
| 06:16.24 | Thunder_Child | you did |
| 06:16.26 | Cairenn | slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker |
| 06:16.34 | Shirik | we didn't start the fire |
| 06:16.42 | Shirik | it was always burning since the world's been turning |
| 06:16.48 | Thunder_Child | LIES! |
| 06:17.19 | Fisker | Thunder_Child has the allspark |
| 06:17.20 | Fisker | get him! |
| 06:17.31 | Shirik | !!! |
| 06:18.11 | Ancu1 | SOMONE GET OPTIMUS PRIME |
| 06:18.18 | Ancu1 | WE NEED A PRIME |
| 06:21.41 | Thunder_Child | they have a spam button in wave >.< |
| 06:22.01 | Thunder_Child | though to be fair, any spam done in wave would prolly be quite interesting |
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| 06:22.29 | Ancu1 | what is google wave again? |
| 06:22.37 | Thunder_Child | www.google.com/wave |
| 06:22.46 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.2.x ToC: 30200 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Thank a Vet today. |
| 06:22.56 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.2.x ToC: 30200 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Thank a Veteran today. |
| 06:23.18 | Fisker | too late Cairenn |
| 06:23.23 | Fisker | i already thanked a vet |
| 06:23.47 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:24.00 | Ancu1 | cant open link right now |
| 06:24.08 | Ancu1 | can you just tell me? |
| 06:24.39 | Thunder_Child | Google Wave is an online tool for real-time communication and collaboration. A wave can be both a conversation |
| 06:24.39 | Thunder_Child | and a document where people can discuss and work together using richly formatted text, photos, videos, maps, and more. |
| 06:24.59 | Jerub | it has a dice roller, what more can you want?! |
| 06:25.40 | Ancu1 | Dice Roller?!? I am all in!! oh...wait...dialup :( |
| 06:25.56 | Jerub | heh dialup |
| 06:26.44 | Ancu1 | Well, when I move to town in a few months, I am getting highspeed. |
| 06:27.06 | Jerub | Ancu1: i take it your hearth isn't in dal then |
| 06:28.06 | Ancu1 | ~ghost Ancu |
| 06:28.44 | Ancu1 | no, it is not :( |
| 06:29.09 | Shirik | I dunno |
| 06:29.12 | Shirik | that shouldn't be too bad |
| 06:29.24 | Shirik | if nobody loads in, you can escape :D |
| 06:29.29 | Ancu1 | yes it is |
| 06:29.49 | Ancu1 | lol |
| 06:29.53 | Ancu1 | whats the command to get rid of ghost |
| 06:29.55 | Ancu1 | ? |
| 06:30.05 | Shirik | it's already gone anyway |
| 06:30.32 | Ancu1 | oh, pidgin always shows me the same nic for myself, so I never know |
| 06:32.05 | Ancu | how do you change the color of your name? |
| 06:33.09 | Cairenn | Ancu: it shows the same name for you all the time because you told it a "local alias" ... if you turn that off, it'll show you which nick you're currently on |
| 06:33.29 | Cairenn | Ancu: (in Pidgin, account setup for IRC) |
| 06:33.55 | Ancu | test |
| 06:33.58 | Ancu | sweet |
| 06:34.04 | Ancu | thanks for the tip |
| 06:34.20 | Cairenn | you're welcome |
| 06:35.03 | Ancu | I asumed that that field was required |
| 06:35.05 | Ancu | lol |
| 06:35.14 | Shirik | you could try using a real IRC client |
| 06:35.15 | Shirik | like mirc |
| 06:35.27 | Thunder_Child | good one Shirik, like you need to start that |
| 06:35.32 | Shirik | :P |
| 06:35.59 | Ancu | I dont feel like wasting anymore of my 1g of ram then I have too. I have pidgin up already, so thats why I use it |
| 06:37.37 | Ancu | I once used mirc, and I did like it. had fun making bots. but as I said, 1g of ram in vista dosent leave much room |
| 06:38.02 | Yssaril | Ancu: mirc isn't the only irc client out there :P |
| 06:38.20 | Jerub | mirc is a real irc client? |
| 06:38.22 | Jerub | pfft |
| 06:39.38 | Ancu | its a mater of a combo irc, and yahoo, and msn, and aim. I need the chats more then the irc, this is just a happy side effect |
| 06:40.25 | Yssaril | what linux distro would you guys recomend for building a media server? |
| 06:40.50 | kd3 | just as a datadump or something like mythtv? |
| 06:41.23 | Yssaril | datadump |
| 06:41.47 | Ancu | Damn Small |
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| 06:42.00 | Ancu | more space for stuff |
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| 06:42.30 | kd3 | anything that doesn't run too much crap. you can set up the mainline distros (say, fedora, ubuntu, et al) to install headless mode |
| 06:42.38 | kd3 | use whatever you're most comfortable with |
| 06:43.00 | Shirik | My name is |
| 06:43.15 | Yssaril | never used linux so it would be a learning experiance :) |
| 06:43.28 | Shirik | Shake-zula, the mic rulah, the old schoola; you wanna trip? I'll break it to ya. |
| 06:43.35 | Cairenn | Ancu: same here (one app to cover multiple needs) |
| 06:43.46 | ajmitch | Yssaril: mythbuntu perhaps |
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| 06:44.59 | Ancu | I still say damn small linux. Its small and easy to use. Not as easy as say ubuntu. But simple enough. |
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| 06:45.45 | Yssaril | cool thanks for the suggestions |
| 06:46.05 | Thunder_Child | crap, another skinny white boy trying to rap |
| 06:46.23 | Ancu | racist |
| 06:46.38 | Thunder_Child | truthist |
| 06:48.09 | Ancu | You should recognise that its more of a cutral thing then a racial thing. White boy brought up in the exact same environment would be able to do the same |
| 06:48.44 | Ancu | but you put a white boy in a black comunity, people tend to be racist aginst the white boy. Hence it is a rare happening |
| 06:48.48 | kd3 | .... |
| 06:49.00 | kd3 | watches the joke go flying off |
| 06:50.14 | WobWork | http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,28318,26335510-5014090,00.html |
| 06:50.21 | WobWork | those statues were awesome |
| 06:51.08 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 06:51.10 | Fisker | hack teh launcher |
| 06:51.24 | kd3 | I think blizz did a good enough job breaking it on monday |
| 06:52.08 | Fisker | saw all the starcraft 2 stuff in it? |
| 06:53.50 | WobWork | also |
| 06:53.51 | WobWork | http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26335369-421,00.html |
| 06:53.53 | WobWork | holyfuck |
| 06:55.03 | Fisker | stop it WobWork |
| 06:55.06 | Fisker | or i might just punch my monitor |
| 06:55.16 | WobWork | =\ |
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| 06:57.00 | Thunder_Child | pics or it didnt happen Fisker |
| 06:59.37 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 06:59.43 | Shirik | I am making Starcraft 3 |
| 06:59.47 | Shirik | would you like to alpha test? |
| 07:00.16 | Shirik | I will send to you. Note Norton Antivirus has a false positive, it says it's a virus. It lies. |
| 07:01.03 | Fisker | yeah |
| 07:01.07 | Fisker | i don't use antivirus though |
| 07:01.11 | Thunder_Child | Also ignore that it asks for $1,000,000. please pay the money and continue on |
| 07:01.26 | Fisker | anyways Shirik |
| 07:01.28 | Fisker | hack the launcher |
| 07:02.46 | Shirik | ~dict anyways |
| 07:02.56 | Shirik | o.O |
| 07:03.01 | Shirik | anyway, "anyways" is not a word |
| 07:03.04 | Shirik | l2english Fisker1 |
| 07:03.11 | Fisker | it's slang mr. Shirik |
| 07:03.23 | Shirik | it's evil, mr. Fisker |
| 07:03.31 | Fisker | HACK THE LAUNCHER MR. SHIRIK |
| 07:04.03 | Shirik | ãããï¼ããã§ãã¾ãã |
| 07:04.19 | Fisker | you wouldn't japanese me Shirik |
| 07:04.33 | Shirik | Iã¹ããã´ãI just did |
| 07:04.43 | Shirik | ... |
| 07:04.45 | Shirik | stupid IME |
| 07:04.47 | Shirik | I believe I just did |
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| 07:06.12 | Fisker | you wouldn't hack a launcher Shirik |
| 07:06.45 | Antiarc | You wouldn't steal an eggroll |
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| 07:07.10 | Shirik | jailbreaks Fisker |
| 07:07.18 | Fisker | you wouldn't bake bread |
| 07:07.27 | Shirik | nope |
| 07:07.30 | Thunder_Child | you wouldn't troll |
| 07:07.34 | Fisker | naw |
| 07:07.54 | Fisker | you wouldn't tell a story |
| 07:10.05 | Fisker | You wouldn't pour gold over yourself |
| 07:11.22 | Shirik | ~troll Fisker |
| 07:11.23 | purl | ACTION hereby declares Fisker a troll |
| 07:11.31 | Fisker | ~kiss Shirik |
| 07:11.32 | purl | ACTION forces Shirik to give theorbtwo a big kiss on the neck |
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| 07:15.16 | Fisker | you wouldn't defuse a nuclear bomb Shirik |
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| 07:16.11 | Shirik | you wouldn't create a nuclear bomb, Fisker |
| 07:17.40 | Fisker | naw it's against the law to have nuclear bombs here without a permit |
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| 07:20.18 | Torhal | you wouldn't break the law Fisker |
| 07:20.34 | Fisker | indeed |
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| 07:36.02 | Fisker | you wouldn't kiss a police officer Torhal |
| 07:36.27 | Jerub | you wouldn't ask the police officer's wife to smell your finger Fisker |
| 07:38.28 | Thunder_Child | ~kiss Fisker |
| 07:38.29 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker to give sylvanaar a big kiss on the ear |
| 07:44.38 | Torhal | you wouldn't drink the kool-aid Fisker |
| 07:46.58 | Fisker | ~kiss Shirik |
| 07:46.59 | purl | ACTION forces Shirik to give cyndis a big kiss on the forehead |
| 07:49.41 | stuf | ãããªããããã¹ |
| 07:50.25 | Fisker | slaps stuf around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:51.46 | Shirik | stuf, wtf |
| 07:52.05 | Thunder_Child | ~logs |
| 07:52.06 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 07:53.06 | Shirik | ãã§ã¹ã¯ã«ã¯ã§ããï¼ |
| 07:53.39 | Shirik | ãã§ã¹ã¯ã«ã¯ããã§ããï¼ |
| 07:53.44 | Shirik | forgot a verb, lol |
| 07:54.29 | stuf | you did have ã§ã as a verb tho, but... =D |
| 07:54.52 | stuf | ãããä»ãªã«ãããï¼ :| |
| 07:55.25 | Shirik | screw kanji |
| 07:55.56 | Shirik | How would you say Fisker? |
| 07:56.26 | Shirik | ãã§ã¹ã¯ã«ãï½ï½ãï½ï½ï½ï½ãＩãï½ï½ï½ï½
ãï½ï½ãï½ï½ï½ï½ï¼ãＩãï½ï½ï½ï½ï½ï½ï½ãï½ï½ãï½ï½ï½ãï½ï½ï¼ |
| 07:58.07 | Torhal | you wouldn't translate Shirik, Fisker |
| 07:58.28 | Thunder_Child | thats because Shirik is gibberish |
| 07:58.30 | krka | stop talking to fisker, i have a hard time tracking one sided conversations |
| 07:58.49 | Shirik | Torhal, you still need to represent it |
| 07:59.04 | Shirik | That's what Katakana is for |
| 07:59.34 | Shirik | You don't see me going around saying "Cleopatra" by writing hieroglyphics in here |
| 08:02.32 | *** join/#wowuidev Repo (n=supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 08:03.01 | stuf | Shirik: depends on how you pronounce it, i'd say ãã£ã¹ã«ã¼ |
| 08:04.07 | Shirik | I'm not sure it's a FI in front |
| 08:04.17 | Shirik | Fisker, how do you pronounce your name |
| 08:04.39 | Shirik | is it like "fee" or like "fi" in "fist" |
| 08:04.57 | Thunder_Child | i pronounce it as option #2 |
| 08:05.00 | Shirik | me too |
| 08:05.25 | stuf | because ã㧠is pronounced like "fe" in "feces", for instance =D |
| 08:05.43 | Shirik | I think ã㣠is pronounced like that no... |
| 08:05.46 | Fisker | :( |
| 08:05.55 | stuf | oh, wait, yeah |
| 08:05.56 | stuf | sorry |
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| 08:06.15 | stuf | ã㧠like "festival", then |
| 08:06.23 | Shirik | yeah that's why I chose that |
| 08:06.36 | mitch0 | stop filling my terminal with little squares |
| 08:06.41 | stuf | :[ |
| 08:06.43 | Shirik | lol |
| 08:06.53 | Shirik | Fisker: Answer! |
| 08:07.04 | mitch0 | it's fisker as in fist |
| 08:07.08 | mitch0 | it's obvious |
| 08:07.13 | Thunder_Child | stop failing with your terminal |
| 08:07.16 | stuf | mitch0:â
|
| 08:07.19 | stuf | <3 |
| 08:07.20 | Shirik | I think his name came from Fister |
| 08:07.22 | mitch0 | stuf it :P |
| 08:07.34 | Shirik | stuf: You can't use star without heart |
| 08:07.37 | Shirik | they go hand in hand |
| 08:07.41 | stuf | oh yeah |
| 08:07.43 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 08:07.49 | Thunder_Child | that was a horrid pun Shirik |
| 08:07.57 | stuf | ããã¹â
|
| 08:08.01 | stuf | oh wait, my bad |
| 08:08.07 | haste | benisu :p ? |
| 08:08.10 | mitch0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:08.17 | stuf | pe |
| 08:08.20 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, it's a last name |
| 08:08.20 | stuf | like COCKS |
| 08:08.35 | haste | then my font is too small here |
| 08:08.39 | haste | the daikuten looks like @ |
| 08:08.42 | haste | s/@/"/ |
| 08:08.42 | Fisker | you wouldn't harass an awesome person Shirik :( |
| 08:09.07 | Shirik | å¿ãmy IME refuses to make a heart symbol :( |
| 08:09.36 | haste | get ibus Shirik ! |
| 08:09.37 | Shirik | ⤠? |
| 08:09.40 | haste | gj! |
| 08:10.08 | Shirik | â¤â
â¤â
â¤â
â¤â
â¤â
|
| 08:10.16 | Shirik | that's not the heart I'm looking for |
| 08:10.17 | Shirik | it should be taller |
| 08:10.34 | stuf | you probably want the half-width heart then |
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| 08:10.51 | mitch0 | grr cvs |
| 08:10.54 | haste | Your heart must be this tall to enter. |
| 08:11.01 | mitch0 | totally forgot how to use it |
| 08:11.20 | haste | mitch0: migrate to svnhub today! |
| 08:11.34 | krka | ⥠|
| 08:12.11 | mitch0 | haste: just need to dig out a 4 year old code here |
| 08:12.23 | Fisker | hastemen |
| 08:12.40 | Shirik | ⥠|
| 08:13.00 | Shirik | ï¼ï¼ãï½ï½ï½ï½ãï½ï½
ï½ï½ãï½ï½
|
| 08:13.19 | Shirik | â¥â
â¥â
â¥â
â¥â
|
| 08:13.21 | Thunder_Child | this somehow does not seem like a good name "SWiSH - Straight Women in Support of Homos" |
| 08:13.29 | Shirik | I guess that's the closest I can get it |
| 08:13.36 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: it's win |
| 08:14.35 | krka | doesn't really make sense for straight women to support homosexual men, that would just limit their options more. straight women should instead support homosexual women, since that reduces competition |
| 08:14.46 | Shirik | The heart is very important for songs like Candy⥠http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDR4Q5I84Yo |
| 08:15.01 | Shirik | lol krka |
| 08:15.02 | Shirik | wtf |
| 08:16.23 | Fisker | teh fuck Shirik |
| 08:17.01 | haste | Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg5QarbaO4E I challenge his candy! |
| 08:18.24 | Fisker | no. |
| 08:18.38 | Fisker | so tomorrow begins the shitstorm |
| 08:19.51 | Shirik | Fisker, you do not like the song? :( |
| 08:20.02 | *** join/#wowuidev Lukian (n=lukian@203.123.90.21) |
| 08:20.19 | Thunder_Child | i will do my best to laugh at the QQ'ing |
| 08:20.21 | Fisker | i like it so much i hope you die |
| 08:20.21 | Shirik | haste, I counter your counter with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWWaNFeXjB8 ! |
| 08:20.26 | haste | ofc, if I really wanted to challenge him I'd just post http://movieplanet.dyndns.org/discography/05/thsweets.swf |
| 08:20.32 | Fisker | yeah Thunder_Child |
| 08:20.46 | Fisker | "OMG I DIDN'T WANT BATTLE.NET AND YOU DID IT ANYWAYS, AND I DON'T EVEN GET A PET :(" |
| 08:20.51 | haste | Shirik: counter my touhou sweets! |
| 08:21.36 | haste | some related facts! |
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| 08:21.54 | haste | Yes I have the CD. Yes I bought it at a convention in Tokyo! |
| 08:22.19 | Shirik | :( |
| 08:22.40 | haste | namachichi desu! |
| 08:22.51 | haste | that song always make me lulz |
| 08:22.53 | Corrodias | Fisker: what's the news? |
| 08:23.24 | Fisker | ? |
| 08:23.56 | Fisker | slaps Corrodias around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:23.58 | Corrodias | you predict a shitstorm over battle.net? |
| 08:24.13 | Fisker | ye |
| 08:24.25 | Fisker | It's the last day to merge |
| 08:24.32 | Fisker | and apparently the pet won't be given from tomorrow |
| 08:24.35 | Corrodias | merge what? |
| 08:24.48 | Fisker | merge you with a fire |
| 08:24.50 | Fisker | and die in it |
| 08:24.53 | Corrodias | boom |
| 08:24.56 | Corrodias | i'm explosive |
| 08:25.21 | Fisker | as long as you die i don't care |
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| 08:25.48 | Corrodias | i don't keep up on the WoW news, but i'm curious about whatever you're saying, since battle.net will affect d3 |
| 08:27.07 | Fisker | yeah because battle.net support in WoW has only been known for like what? 2 years now? |
| 08:28.34 | haste | since wotlk "beta" |
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| 08:38.44 | Corrodias | i take it you're saying that people are resisting the mandatory battle.net accounts |
| 08:43.09 | Fisker | duh |
| 08:43.45 | Grum | there are 0 benefits of having battlenet thus why would you change? |
| 08:44.10 | Grum | also the site occasionally misbehaves (like yesterday, account merging wsa simply broken for hours on end) |
| 08:44.30 | Grum | and the merged caused some problems in the beginning |
| 08:45.04 | Fisker | Grum maybe if people haven't been so damn stubborn and waited until the last moment? |
| 08:45.19 | Fisker | And there were a similar amount of issues with non-merged accounts |
| 08:45.39 | Grum | yeah but those do not get pointed out so obviously as the ones 'after a merge' :) |
| 08:45.57 | Corrodias | hmm, that does not seem to support your original position |
| 08:46.33 | Grum | anyhow, it works fine, i still see no benefits at this moment (unless they start allowing BoA stuff to move between games under the same battlenet account |
| 08:47.26 | Fisker | Benefits is that they don't have to run 2 seperate login services, you can have multiple accounts under one account, it's a single-sign-on for anything Blizzard related |
| 08:47.38 | Fisker | And in the future it'll have that real id support |
| 08:47.50 | *** join/#wowuidev Srosh (n=Srosh@c209130.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 08:47.52 | Grum | yes. but how many people playing wow also have another blizzard account? |
| 08:47.54 | Corrodias | extra benefit, when someone keylogs the password to any of your accounts, he has it for all of your accounts |
| 08:47.54 | Fisker | Not to mention they seem to be making their own "mini"-steam |
| 08:48.00 | Grum | i doubt that that is over 20% of the wow population :) |
| 08:48.02 | Corrodias | it saves the hackers time. |
| 08:48.15 | Grum | and there is that as well Corrodias |
| 08:48.31 | Fisker | That's incorrect Corrodias |
| 08:48.36 | Fisker | There are no hackers |
| 08:48.39 | Fisker | Only keyloggers and scammers |
| 08:48.52 | Grum | true :) |
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| 08:49.12 | Corrodias | the point stands |
| 08:49.16 | Fisker | not really |
| 08:49.30 | Fisker | The chance that it won't affect all accounts is slim at best |
| 08:49.43 | Corrodias | won't affect? do you mean will affect? |
| 08:49.44 | Fisker | and you can easily work around it if you really believe that is the case |
| 08:49.55 | Grum | how? |
| 08:50.03 | Fisker | Create seperate battle.net accounts |
| 08:50.07 | Grum | its easier to make up a name than an email address for 'normal people' |
| 09:00.00 | Shirik | you know what I really hate |
| 09:00.02 | Shirik | jello |
| 09:00.08 | Shirik | because they always package it in small cups |
| 09:00.13 | Shirik | and you can't possibly eat just one cup |
| 09:00.15 | Shirik | it's not big enough |
| 09:00.28 | Shirik | they need king size cups |
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| 09:01.54 | NightHawkAtTMBG | you could... make your own? |
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| 09:03.10 | Shirik | negative |
| 09:03.16 | Shirik | and fu for your AtTMBG |
| 09:04.34 | Fisker | you know what i really hate Shirik ? |
| 09:04.42 | Shirik | my virus |
| 09:04.55 | Fisker | i hate that you didn't hack the launcher for me :( |
| 09:05.04 | Shirik | but you loved my virus? |
| 09:05.47 | NightHawkTheSane | tmbg was awesome :) |
| 09:06.21 | Fisker | yes Shirik |
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| 09:12.38 | ccox | correction TMBG *is* awesome |
| 09:13.32 | Shirik | no fu both |
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| 09:14.23 | jnwhiteh | "There's only one thing that I know how to do well, and I've often been told that you only can do what you know how to do well and that's be you... be what you're like.. and so I'm having a wonderful time, but I'd rather be whistling in the dark..." |
| 09:14.38 | jnwhiteh | be like yourself |
| 09:14.41 | jnwhiteh | how did i mess that up |
| 09:14.42 | jnwhiteh | O.o |
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| 09:16.48 | mikma | http://mrgl-mrgl.com/ |
| 09:16.58 | Fisker | mikmamen |
| 09:17.08 | mikma | fistermen |
| 09:18.04 | mikma | hahaa, http://www.geekologie.com/2009/11/genius_christmas_tree_ornament.php |
| 09:18.32 | Fisker | :( |
| 09:22.52 | Shirik | mikma, how do you find random shit so fast |
| 09:23.28 | Wobin | http://www.lacrossetribune.com/news/local/article_9ee5d1bc-cdbc-11de-a418-001cc4c002e0.html |
| 09:23.29 | Wobin | ... ow |
| 09:24.26 | Shirik | lmao |
| 09:25.21 | Shirik | lmao he claimed the buck |
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| 09:28.36 | mikma | shirik: geekologie.com =) |
| 09:28.45 | mikma | shirik: i check it 3x a day |
| 09:28.49 | Wobin | http://graphics.stanford.edu/~niloy/research/shadowArt/shadowArt_sigA_09.html |
| 09:28.51 | Wobin | is kinda awesome |
| 09:29.04 | mikma | (also, superfficial.com, hehehehehee, mostly nsfw) |
| 09:31.56 | Shirik | awesome Wobin |
| 09:32.23 | mikma | lol wut, why don't i get "awesome" from you? |
| 09:32.50 | Shirik | because |
| 09:32.55 | msoul_ | mikma: You're Awesome, does that count? |
| 09:33.01 | msoul_ | and shoot my times is up :/ |
| 09:33.03 | msoul_ | bye |
| 09:33.08 | Shirik | mikma delivers quantity |
| 09:33.11 | mikma | msoul_: i am not, myh links arfe |
| 09:33.11 | Shirik | Wobin delivers quality |
| 09:33.16 | mikma | are* |
| 09:33.22 | Shirik | mikma is the walmart of random internet-fu |
| 09:33.41 | mikma | i'm gonna gunthernet you soon, shirik |
| 09:33.45 | Shirik | :( |
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| 09:38.28 | Shirik | ok night |
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| 09:39.59 | Fisker | slaps Shirik|AFK around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:43.25 | Fisker | you wouldn't kill a real person Wobin |
| 09:44.21 | Wobin | depends |
| 09:44.25 | Wobin | are you a real person, Fisker? |
| 09:44.55 | Fisker | i'm not a monkey atleast |
| 09:44.56 | mikma | =D |
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| 09:49.30 | Wobin | that's not a yes |
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| 09:50.19 | Wobin | One of these days, we'll discover that Fisker is actually a long running Markov Chain Generator seeded on previous wowuidev logs |
| 09:50.43 | Kaso | Man that'd be awesome |
| 09:50.53 | Wobin | wouldn't it! |
| 09:51.02 | stuf | it's not far from the truth |
| 09:51.38 | Fisker | hurr |
| 09:51.45 | Fisker | That reminds me of that trick with the 9 chess guys |
| 09:51.56 | Fisker | Where he plays each other with his opponents moves |
| 09:52.25 | Wobin | and so wins at least 5 out of the nine games? |
| 09:52.57 | Wobin | or eight I guess |
| 09:52.59 | Wobin | er 4 |
| 09:53.18 | Wobin | what happens if they hit stalemate? |
| 09:53.19 | Kaso | the bet was he could win more than half of the games, apparently he played the weakest of the oppoenets himself |
| 09:53.26 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 09:53.26 | Kaso | but i dont buy that |
| 09:53.43 | Kaso | knowing derren brown there was some other trick going on for the last one ;p |
| 09:54.00 | Wobin | He was secretly boning your mother while playing |
| 09:54.33 | Wobin | You'd have to have a pretty good memory to remember which moves went where |
| 09:54.41 | Wobin | -and- play one of the games yourself |
| 09:55.30 | Kaso | alot of his tricks require a good memory |
| 09:55.52 | Wobin | that's impressive, trick aside |
| 09:56.32 | Kaso | its probally on youtube somewhere if you want to check it out, search for derren brown and chess maybe |
| 09:56.41 | Kaso | or if you're in the uk all his stuff is on 4od |
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| 09:57.32 | Wobin | eh no need to see it =P |
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| 12:39.07 | Wobin | http://zombietools.net/tools/ |
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| 12:41.34 | mikma | wobin: Rough and Ready Bone Machete is the one in Left 4 Dead 2 :D |
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| 13:09.35 | Aelo | howdy |
| 13:15.49 | Cairenn | hi |
| 13:16.46 | olafski | hewwo |
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| 14:01.30 | Fisker | http://www.ilva.dk/afdeling/havemoebler/237/juletraeer <-nice buttplugs haste |
| 14:02.38 | nevcairiel | ilva = danish ikea? :P |
| 14:02.53 | haste | Fisker: 32cm.. sounds painful D: |
| 14:03.29 | Fisker | well those have stars and shit on it |
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| 14:08.26 | DWSR | How do I unlock the Skybreaker dailies? |
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| 14:17.11 | Lopeppeppy | There's no faction walkthrough on the wiki? |
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| 14:19.27 | mitch0 | is it safe/efficient to call Frame:SetScrip() multiple times? |
| 14:20.08 | Aelo | without the "t" on the end, for sure :P |
| 14:20.17 | mitch0 | meh |
| 14:20.20 | Aelo | ^^ |
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| 14:25.05 | Cide | with the "t" on the end, for sure |
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| 14:28.24 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, alestane. |
| 14:28.36 | alestane | It is, yes. |
| 14:28.48 | alestane | Do they let you stay home for Veteran's Day? |
| 14:29.00 | Kraps | the Pandaren Monk is sold out :/ |
| 14:29.00 | Ancu1 | waves emphaticly at lopeppeppy |
| 14:29.21 | Aelo | how can they sell out of a virtual product? 0.o |
| 14:29.25 | Ancu1 | the monk cant be sold out...its digital |
| 14:29.35 | Kraps | thats what i said! |
| 14:29.39 | Kraps | http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100000763 |
| 14:29.43 | Lopeppeppy | Limited time offer then. |
| 14:29.59 | Ancu1 | but I wont have money for it untill tomarow |
| 14:30.02 | Trela | What. o.o |
| 14:30.11 | Lopeppeppy | I was going to order them as well. Meh. |
| 14:30.12 | Aelo | lolwut 0.o |
| 14:30.26 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: they never said it was a limited time offer |
| 14:30.32 | Aelo | "we will donate 50% until the end of this year"... "sold out" |
| 14:31.59 | Lopeppeppy | I know they never said it was limited, but for some reason, they're sold out. Check general forum? |
| 14:32.32 | Kraps | i am but palehoof snagged me http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=21034435065&sid=1 |
| 14:33.44 | Lopeppeppy | Palehoof is an awesome dino. |
| 14:34.13 | Fisker | you wouldn't steal a monk Kraps |
| 14:34.17 | Lopeppeppy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20860802523&sid=1 |
| 14:34.44 | Kraps | Fisker: so how do you steal a monk? |
| 14:34.51 | Fisker | they can be sold out Kraps |
| 14:34.55 | Fisker | They ran out numbers! |
| 14:35.19 | Legorol | alternatively, for some financial/legal reasons they capped out the amount they can contribute to charity |
| 14:35.29 | Legorol | and until their accounting system catches up with the necessary changes, they had to take it offline |
| 14:35.35 | Lopeppeppy | ... I doubt they would cap it in just a few days. |
| 14:35.45 | Legorol | true, but it was very popular |
| 14:35.51 | Kraps | "They ran out of 0's, all they have left are 1's. You're going to have to wait till Blizzard can go to the store and purchase more 0's to get your pandaren monk pet. " |
| 14:36.04 | Fisker | how can you cap the amount you can contribute to charity? |
| 14:36.58 | Lopeppeppy | especially when it comes off new sales. |
| 14:37.31 | Ancu1 | actualy the cap makes sense. But they should have said somthing about it |
| 14:38.01 | Lopeppeppy | Stop with conspiracy theories so soon! *laugh* |
| 14:38.08 | Ancu1 | "50% of sales will go to make a wish up to the amount of 10,000,000 dollars |
| 14:38.44 | Fisker | Yeah it should've said that |
| 14:38.57 | Lopeppeppy | IF it were true. Jeez, get out the tinfoil hats. |
| 14:39.06 | Legorol | for all i know there could be a limit a company can pay for charitable causes and still get a tax deduction or something |
| 14:39.14 | Aelo | but they're so stylish :o |
| 14:39.16 | Fisker | exactly |
| 14:39.20 | Fisker | Then it should've said that |
| 14:39.23 | Legorol | such constructs are fairly common at least in the tax laws of EU countries |
| 14:39.36 | Fisker | If they only wish to contribute to charity as long they can get a discount on it, that seems less than charitable |
| 14:39.43 | Legorol | Fisker: yah it should've, could've, would've, but didn't've |
| 14:39.44 | Lopeppeppy | IF. |
| 14:39.44 | Legorol | so now what |
| 14:39.48 | Lopeppeppy | Y'all are insane. |
| 14:39.52 | Fisker | YES |
| 14:39.53 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: my tinfoil hat is undergoing repairs |
| 14:40.02 | Legorol | Fisker: it's a business, who cares about charitable causes? |
| 14:40.13 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, I can tell! :P |
| 14:40.33 | Legorol | imo, the tax limit is not a conspiracy theory, it's a wellfounded edumificated guess in the dark |
| 14:41.37 | Lopeppeppy | Potato, poh-tah-toe. |
| 14:41.48 | Aelo | poh-tae-toe |
| 14:41.58 | Fisker | i care about them keeping their word |
| 14:42.06 | Lopeppeppy | They didn't give any word. |
| 14:42.23 | Ancu1 | mash'em smash'em stick'em in a stew |
| 14:42.30 | Ancu1 | whats taters precious |
| 14:42.30 | olafski | boil em mash em* |
| 14:42.41 | Ancu1 | oh, sorry |
| 14:42.50 | olafski | I'll go back to idling now ;) |
| 14:42.59 | Fisker | Making people unable to purchase the item so they can "keep their promise" is no better |
| 14:43.14 | Lopeppeppy | You have only a guess that's what's happened, jeez. |
| 14:43.31 | Kraps | is the loch ness monster a descendant of jesus' magic dog? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbl-vMN2gzo |
| 14:43.43 | Fisker | I don't remember saying that is what happened |
| 14:43.44 | Lopeppeppy | Yes! |
| 14:43.52 | Legorol | Fisker: why is it not "keeping their word" to sell out of a product? |
| 14:44.06 | Legorol | They promised the charity promotion would be until the end of the year |
| 14:44.12 | Legorol | but they made no promises about availability |
| 14:45.02 | Legorol | for all you know it could be as simple as one of the hamsters getting a cold |
| 14:45.30 | Fisker | i'm not saying it wasn't |
| 14:45.31 | Legorol | "Sold Out" is probably the quickest/simplest way to take a product offline until whatever issues with it are fixt |
| 14:45.31 | Ancu1 | but still no official word yet |
| 14:45.41 | Aelo | Kraps: lol |
| 14:45.41 | Legorol | so what? there may never be |
| 14:46.01 | Legorol | if the temp worker spilled milk on the keyboard, they'd never admit that |
| 14:46.05 | Legorol | it will just get back on sale again |
| 14:46.49 | Legorol | When your local grocery store sells out of apples, do you expect it to go around the neighbourhood stuffing everyone's letterboxes with notices about why it's sold out |
| 14:47.01 | Legorol | Entitlementarism ftw |
| 14:48.01 | Fisker | When your local grocery store sells out of apples because they were poisonous do you expect them to atleast acknowledge that? |
| 14:51.07 | Lopeppeppy | No, not really |
| 14:51.34 | Fisker | i want to sell you some apples then |
| 14:51.59 | Lopeppeppy | I don't eat apples anyway. |
| 14:52.22 | Lopeppeppy | And the analogy does not follow the original example, there's no parallel. |
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| 14:52.31 | theorbtwo | When your local grocery store has a sale on apples, and avertises it, when they run out of apples, they will give you an IOU to sell you one later, at the promotion price. |
| 14:52.44 | theorbtwo | ...or they will advertise with "subject to avilability". |
| 14:53.01 | theorbtwo | This is on a companion pet, isn't it? How do you sell out of bits? |
| 14:53.50 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe they ran out of pre-generated codes, who knows? |
| 14:54.03 | krka | cost of bits went up, they can no longer afford selling at this cheap price! |
| 14:54.35 | krka | a store is not in any way obligated to provide a reason for being sold out |
| 14:54.35 | Lopeppeppy | Hamsters went postal and killed all the pandas. The liches are available because they were dead already. |
| 14:55.37 | Ancu1 | so still no official answer to the sold out pandara huh? |
| 14:55.44 | theorbtwo | krka: No, but they are obligated to sell things at an advertised price and condition. |
| 14:56.08 | krka | where can i find the advert in question? |
| 14:56.12 | krka | or a copy of the advert |
| 14:56.48 | Lopeppeppy | They did sell it at the advertised price and condition. :) |
| 14:56.54 | Aelo | what if their code generator is just broken temporarilty? :P |
| 14:56.55 | Lopeppeppy | Until it was gone. :) |
| 14:57.01 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, Aelo! |
| 14:57.12 | Aelo | battle.net is mandatory tomorrow isnt it? |
| 14:57.18 | Fisker | today for US |
| 14:57.23 | Aelo | could be the reason! :P |
| 14:58.21 | Aelo | although i guess lil KT would be down too |
| 14:58.39 | Lopeppeppy | Hamsters didn't eat him. |
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| 15:01.36 | DWSR | wait wtf? |
| 15:01.42 | DWSR | They sold out of Pandaren? |
| 15:02.37 | Lopeppeppy | That's so yesterday's news, put on your tinfoil hat. |
| 15:03.20 | Kalroth | how can they sell out |
| 15:03.23 | Kalroth | isn't it a pet? |
| 15:03.33 | Ancu1 | I am going to as for an official blue post on this |
| 15:03.48 | Lopeppeppy | Go ask, Ancu. I'm sure it's a tech glitch somewhere, that's all. |
| 15:04.09 | Kalroth | or maybe they're trying not to oversaturate the market |
| 15:04.20 | Ancu1 | I am still going to out right ask for a blue post....as soon as i log in... |
| 15:04.33 | Lopeppeppy | Remember that fishing for blues can earn you a temp forum ban... |
| 15:04.38 | Ancu1 | damn dialup |
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| 15:05.37 | Ancu1 | what? realy? I never read the TOS, so are you serious? |
| 15:05.49 | Lopeppeppy | That's not ToS, that's forum conduct rules. |
| 15:05.55 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 15:06.11 | krka | RTFFCR |
| 15:06.40 | DWSR | How do you run out of a digital good? |
| 15:06.47 | Ancu1 | damn, never mind then |
| 15:07.21 | Kalroth | DWSR: You can't - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_saturation for why :p |
| 15:07.22 | Lopeppeppy | DWSR, I'm sure it's a tech glitch somewhere. |
| 15:07.37 | alestane | You might be able to run out of a generated key space, or your authorization server can hiccup, or any number of things can happen. |
| 15:07.39 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: I can't imagine that. |
| 15:07.55 | DWSR | alestane: That can't be it. Lil' KT's still working |
| 15:07.59 | Fisker | how do you know Lopeppeppy ? |
| 15:08.14 | Lopeppeppy | I don't, but my guess is as valid as any of the conspiracy theorys, and better for blood pressure. |
| 15:08.22 | Fisker | Yes |
| 15:08.29 | Fisker | But apparently we're not allowed to discuss our guesses |
| 15:08.40 | Lopeppeppy | Oh my god. *rolls eyes* |
| 15:08.54 | krka | i think greenpeace called and forbid blizzard from selling pandas |
| 15:08.54 | Kalroth | Isn't Pandaran the pet that gives money to charity? |
| 15:08.54 | DWSR | tbh. |
| 15:08.57 | alestane | But would good will it do anyone if you do speculate endlessly? |
| 15:09.00 | DWSR | lol Kraps |
| 15:09.02 | DWSR | krka* |
| 15:09.08 | DWSR | alestane: Yes. |
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| 15:09.10 | Lopeppeppy | I like that one, krka |
| 15:09.11 | DWSR | It gives us something to do |
| 15:09.14 | Kalroth | China got a trademark on pandas |
| 15:09.22 | Fisker | oh and classing it as "conspiracy theories" isn't really helping to acknowledge it as a possible cause |
| 15:09.38 | krka | alestane: gah, i can't parse that |
| 15:09.42 | Fisker | nice one krka :3 |
| 15:09.45 | Fisker | and yeah |
| 15:09.46 | Fisker | i got it! |
| 15:09.49 | krka | am i being tired or stupid or what? :/ |
| 15:09.59 | Fisker | China will only let netease run WoW if they stop selling panda's! |
| 15:10.00 | krka | unexpected token near "it" |
| 15:10.05 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, you've always said you're a troll, now you're disappointed and hurt to be treated like one and dismissed like one? |
| 15:10.07 | Kalroth | krka: replace 'would' with 'what' |
| 15:10.11 | Druidicbeast | Anyone available to take a look at a paste to see what I am doing wrong ? |
| 15:10.21 | alestane | Kalroth is correct. |
| 15:10.23 | krka | that makes it parse better Kalroth! |
| 15:10.40 | alestane | Finger-lexia strikes again. |
| 15:10.50 | Kalroth | Druidicbeast: No, we're busy trying to figure out why Blizzard is screwing us over |
| 15:10.51 | krka | Sold out - that makes me a saaaad panda |
| 15:10.55 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy naw i'm not a troll |
| 15:11.08 | Kalroth | Fisker: weeeeell |
| 15:11.41 | krka | i think blizzard got a major guilt trip when they realized how many were actually so easily fooled to buy a virtually nothing for real money |
| 15:11.54 | Druidicbeast | Oh, ok |
| 15:11.54 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, also good |
| 15:12.22 | Kalroth | krka: No, that doesn't work |
| 15:12.23 | Fisker | i demand a refund then :P |
| 15:12.41 | Kalroth | krka: since they still sell lil' kt - maybe it's because they want to screw the charity case over |
| 15:12.41 | Fisker | I bought my codes from the EU even though i could easily have gotten it at like 3/4th the price |
| 15:13.05 | Kalroth | Fisker: r-tard! |
| 15:13.38 | Ancu | Why would you buy it from eu? or are you on an eu server? |
| 15:13.51 | Kalroth | Fisker is danish |
| 15:13.57 | Kalroth | sadly |
| 15:14.08 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 15:14.17 | Esine | denmark is a cool country I wish I lived in copenhagen |
| 15:14.23 | DWSR | LOL |
| 15:14.27 | DWSR | Speaking of Copenhagen. |
| 15:14.29 | DWSR | Anne frank. |
| 15:14.38 | DWSR | Someone just walked by me in Dal with the name Annefranklol |
| 15:15.19 | Kalroth | Anne frank was in Amsterdamn, not Copenhagen :( |
| 15:15.29 | DWSR | Oh |
| 15:15.30 | DWSR | Whatever. |
| 15:15.46 | Fisker | report it DWSR |
| 15:15.57 | DWSR | why? |
| 15:15.59 | DWSR | It's lulzy. |
| 15:16.08 | krka | denmark would be cool if there weren't so many danes there :( |
| 15:16.18 | Fisker | slaps krka around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:16.26 | Ancu | "And yes, they prob. just ran out of keys. You can't just generate an infinite number of keys that both remain unique, hashable, and none trivial to guess." Does he realize that the codes are gened on the spot by macine? |
| 15:16.26 | Fisker | Denmark is the best country in the world |
| 15:16.30 | Fisker | Well or atleast was :( |
| 15:16.50 | DWSR | Ancu: lol, inorite? |
| 15:16.57 | Fisker | :3 |
| 15:17.02 | Kalroth | Ancu: No bashing of Blizzard in here! |
| 15:17.03 | DWSR | Ancu: EA games, for example, seems to be ok at doing that? |
| 15:17.12 | Ancu | ~difine inorite |
| 15:17.21 | Ancu | ~define inorite |
| 15:17.22 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 15:17.22 | Fisker | It's not like they could just do something like "Hey machine generate this code and make it possible to activate" |
| 15:17.23 | Fisker | "k" |
| 15:17.37 | Ancu | ~dict inorite |
| 15:18.30 | Fisker | damnit chrome! |
| 15:18.38 | Fisker | stop fucking up my sound :( |
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| 15:19.15 | Ancu | actso what did you mean by inorite dwsr, because purl says teh word dont exist |
| 15:19.35 | Ancu | s/actso/so/ |
| 15:19.43 | Lopeppeppy | I know, right? |
| 15:19.44 | DWSR | inorite |
| 15:19.47 | DWSR | I know, right? |
| 15:20.09 | Ancu | oh, sorry. I was previously unfamilyar with that one |
| 15:20.41 | Ginji | That's bad |
| 15:21.12 | Ancu | whats bad ginji |
| 15:21.17 | Ginji | If it's not a valid acronym don't use it! |
| 15:21.44 | Ancu | lol, is anyone else getting server error when trying to log into the forums? |
| 15:21.48 | Seerah | are you saying that we can't say inorite? |
| 15:21.53 | Ginji | Yes! |
| 15:21.58 | Seerah | can I say orly? |
| 15:22.05 | Ginji | Yes |
| 15:22.11 | Seerah | then why can't I say inorite? |
| 15:22.13 | Ginji | Cause that's Piratey |
| 15:22.19 | Seerah | no, not really :p |
| 15:22.29 | Ginji | Yarly! |
| 15:22.33 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 15:22.38 | Seerah | no :p oh really? |
| 15:23.04 | Seerah | you've garnered the wrath of the dino, Ginji ;) |
| 15:23.16 | theorbtwo | shudders. |
| 15:23.16 | Ginji | They are extinct, I sense no danger |
| 15:23.22 | Ancu | Im gona go play wow...without a pandaren |
| 15:23.33 | theorbtwo | Some day soon, somebody will make dict.org pull from urbandictionary. |
| 15:23.40 | Seerah | Lopeppeppy: he said you're extinct! |
| 15:24.34 | Seerah | theobtwo: I don't know if they want those... "not kiddie-safe" definitions on a site used for school research :P |
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| 15:25.59 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR! |
| 15:26.06 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, can I get a chorus here? |
| 15:26.11 | alestane | *RAWR* |
| 15:26.28 | Lopeppeppy | See? There's a breeding pair left, at least! |
| 15:26.30 | alestane | gets out the dino pitch-pipe. |
| 15:26.33 | Seerah | Ginji: ^^ |
| 15:26.37 | Ginji | :) |
| 15:26.38 | alestane | _RAWR!_ |
| 15:26.49 | Lopeppeppy | ~rawr~ |
| 15:26.57 | Seerah | ooh, and they can do it in tight harmony... :) |
| 15:27.02 | Lopeppeppy | *purr* |
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| 15:36.07 | Ginji | The boredom! |
| 15:38.24 | alestane | Do something exciting then. |
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| 15:47.51 | Kraps | MW2 is really a fan-splitter |
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| 15:50.53 | Fisker | why Krapsp ? |
| 15:50.55 | Fisker | Kraps * |
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| 15:53.23 | Kraps | theres visceral hatred about the game i havent seen about many other games |
| 15:53.39 | Druidicbeast | On their forums ? |
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| 15:55.06 | Kraps | any forum about the game anywhere: kotaku, gamespot, metacritic |
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| 15:58.59 | Druidicbeast | Yeah, I was on IW's forums yesterday, it's getting a little out of hand. |
| 15:59.59 | Ginji | I'm wondering whether or not I should buy it |
| 16:00.09 | Ginji | It seems to be plagued by some bugs |
| 16:00.22 | Ginji | Then there's the lack of decent servers |
| 16:01.57 | Druidicbeast | I'm upset cause I was really looking forward to it. But no dedicated servers kinda seals the deal for me. |
| 16:02.11 | Ginji | There's still the singleplayer |
| 16:02.16 | Druidicbeast | I've heard of terrible lag and long waits when hosts leave. |
| 16:02.28 | Druidicbeast | That's true, I'm sure the Single Player is still amazing |
| 16:02.40 | Druidicbeast | I just prefer to play multi more often then not. |
| 16:04.00 | Kraps | theres complaints that the single player is too short and/or has a confusing story |
| 16:04.35 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: something about QA's modules\manage.lua:343 is wrong. Scenario: I had 10 auctions of an item up and 6 of that item remaining in my inventory. Doing a post scan, QA said "10 of 10 already up, skipping", which is fine. One was sold, leaving 9 up. Did another post scan, now QA said "queued item to be posted, cap is 10, can only post 6 need to restock". it shouldn't have said "you have too few of this item to fill up the post cap" at a |
| 16:04.41 | Gnarfoz | ll, right? |
| 16:06.44 | Fisker | i like their matchmaking requirements |
| 16:06.47 | Fisker | "cl_maxping 800" |
| 16:07.07 | Fisker | Of course changing it will either make the game crash or reset it |
| 16:07.56 | Ginji | To me it just sounds like they pushed it out to early |
| 16:08.29 | Fisker | nah |
| 16:08.37 | Fisker | they just fucked over pc gamers |
| 16:08.50 | Ginji | Don't the conole versions have the same issue |
| 16:08.57 | Ginji | No dedicated servers |
| 16:09.02 | Ginji | etc etc |
| 16:09.07 | Fisker | ~No console game has that |
| 16:09.12 | Ginji | Really? |
| 16:09.16 | Fisker | yes |
| 16:09.22 | Ginji | Then what are you paying a subscription for? |
| 16:09.34 | Fisker | Matchmaking services etc. |
| 16:09.49 | Ginji | Lame |
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| 16:15.06 | Fisker | nicoli_s my friend |
| 16:17.08 | Fisker | you wouldn't kill a car |
| 16:18.23 | mikma | old |
| 16:20.16 | cogwheel | mmm... farscape on netflix instant play... |
| 16:20.26 | cogwheel | HAI FISKER! |
| 16:20.30 | Fisker | no cogwheel |
| 16:20.32 | Fisker | get out |
| 16:20.46 | cogwheel | jumps out of the helicopter |
| 16:20.57 | Lopeppeppy | Blue chicks rule. |
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| 16:23.45 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 16:24.57 | cogwheel | ? |
| 16:26.20 | Fisker | you just got haxored |
| 16:26.33 | cogwheel | i am so smrt |
| 16:36.49 | Fisker | Thank you for your answer mr. Fiskerdin, and I wish you best of luck with your appliance for a job @ Blizzard. |
| 16:36.53 | Fisker | I'm an appliance now? |
| 16:37.04 | nevcairiel | yes. |
| 16:37.36 | Lopeppeppy | Microwave, or toaster? |
| 16:37.43 | Lopeppeppy | peers closely. Almost time for lunch. |
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| 16:38.52 | Fisker | i wish i was a toaster |
| 16:40.18 | Lopeppeppy | If I were not a counselor, there's something I'd rather be, if I were not a counselor, a streaker's what I'd be! And this is what you'd hear me say: "Run, run, see my buns! Run, run, see my buns!" |
| 16:40.24 | Lopeppeppy | sings camp songs no one has ever heard of. |
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| 16:48.22 | kdtresh | remembers baby shark, do, do, do. |
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| 16:50.59 | Lunessa | STATION |
| 16:51.40 | cogwheel | NO EWE! |
| 16:52.11 | Aelo | foxlit: ping |
| 16:52.19 | foxlit | Aelo: pong |
| 16:53.56 | Lopeppeppy | Herro |
| 17:00.18 | Lunessa | What wa' tha'? This is not a charrrade! Onse moah, wriv feering! |
| 17:01.35 | kdtresh | wishes he could drink in the morning. |
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| 17:04.14 | kdtresh | faction discount for exalted is what %? |
| 17:05.15 | Legorol | 10 |
| 17:05.18 | Legorol | i mean 20 |
| 17:05.20 | Legorol | 20 it is |
| 17:05.31 | Legorol | it's 5, 10, 15, 20 for friendly, honoured, revered, exalted |
| 17:05.50 | kdtresh | so a 50s item with exalted rep would be 40s? |
| 17:06.11 | kdtresh | and people are flooding the AH with them for 45s |
| 17:06.21 | kdtresh | just trying to figure out how that's worth it for them |
| 17:06.25 | Aelo | but AH cut is 5% :P |
| 17:06.28 | kdtresh | exactly |
| 17:06.37 | Legorol | does it cost 50s to buy? |
| 17:06.44 | Legorol | or is 50s the vendor sell price |
| 17:06.57 | kdtresh | 50s is the cost if you buy it from the vendor |
| 17:07.02 | Legorol | without rep? |
| 17:07.03 | Aelo | even if it's the latter, it's a loss for them :P |
| 17:07.03 | Lopeppeppy | Say you're happy now, once more with feeling. |
| 17:07.05 | kdtresh | i'm talking about cockroaches and scarlet snakes |
| 17:07.19 | kdtresh | from the consortium vendor in netherstorm |
| 17:07.26 | Legorol | according to the information so far, they can buy it for 40s, and resell it for 45s |
| 17:07.31 | kdtresh | yes |
| 17:07.39 | kdtresh | AH cut takes it down to 42.75s |
| 17:07.42 | Legorol | yup |
| 17:07.47 | Legorol | the profit is almost nonexistant |
| 17:07.48 | kdtresh | which it may round to 43s or 42s, i don't know |
| 17:07.49 | Legorol | but my guess is this: |
| 17:07.54 | kdtresh | either way, i can't see it's profitable |
| 17:07.58 | Legorol | it doesn't round it, there are coppers in the game (strangely) |
| 17:08.03 | Legorol | this is what's happening, kd: |
| 17:08.05 | kdtresh | true, lol |
| 17:08.15 | Legorol | those people buy up all the pets at the vendor, in bulk, probably |
| 17:08.33 | Legorol | they then mass-post it using auctioneer or some other tool, adjusting for market price etc., which is probably automatically setting it to 45s |
| 17:08.43 | Legorol | they are not manually selling just that one item at 45s imo |
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| 17:09.03 | kdtresh | lol, now they're undercutting each other and listing at 43s |
| 17:09.10 | Legorol | their massposting settings might be set to 10% markup or some such |
| 17:09.25 | Legorol | yup, mindless and automated undercutting does that to you |
| 17:09.29 | Legorol | it's their loss |
| 17:09.55 | kdtresh | i've outfitted all my alts at a lower cost than i can buy at the rep (i'm only friendly with consortium) |
| 17:10.00 | Legorol | the smart thing would be to realise there is little demand, and pull the product |
| 17:10.07 | Legorol | and repost at a random time later when there is less on the market |
| 17:10.15 | Legorol | (and remember to buy a lot less next time at the vendor) |
| 17:10.27 | kdtresh | maybe they're just dumping their inventory and getting out of the market on those items |
| 17:10.35 | foxlit | http://pastey.net/128186-1x8t:128185-2ppo << zomg, pastey is bugged. |
| 17:10.37 | Legorol | possibly |
| 17:10.50 | kdtresh | if they sell at 43s, they make 85c "profit" |
| 17:10.52 | foxlit | (it eats the last removed line from the original) |
| 17:11.09 | kdtresh | costs 7.5s to list for 48 hrs, lol |
| 17:12.06 | Legorol | yah, it's poor business |
| 17:12.19 | Legorol | but automated undercutting, bulk buying and bulk sales is behidn it |
| 17:12.37 | kdtresh | i was just thinking there might be something i was missing |
| 17:12.38 | Legorol | bear in mind that a realworld shop often sells a few products at a loss, but makes a profit over all its range of products |
| 17:12.42 | Legorol | not that that applies here |
| 17:12.54 | kdtresh | well, the AH hardly has doorbusters or loss leaders |
| 17:13.02 | Legorol | idd |
| 17:13.03 | kdtresh | there's no "store" to get people into to buy other stuff |
| 17:13.06 | Legorol | idd |
| 17:13.24 | cogwheel | who needs a gwave invite? just got a small handful... |
| 17:13.29 | Legorol | what i meant by that that if they do business in a large volume, they wouldn't even have noticed that these items are lossy |
| 17:13.49 | Legorol | cogwheel: moi |
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| 17:14.54 | Aelo | cogwheel: what is it? :o |
| 17:15.04 | cogwheel | wave.google.com |
| 17:15.44 | kdtresh | but if one item never makes a profit, and it doesn't serve the purpose of getting people to look at and sometimes buy other items that DO, there's no reason to continue selling it |
| 17:16.22 | cogwheel | Aelo: if you have a spare hour and change, the intro video is pretty cool =) |
| 17:18.26 | Aelo | i'll take a look once ive finished this addon im working on :) |
| 17:18.50 | cogwheel | "Invitations will not be sent immediately. We have a lot of stamps to lick." -- Google's invite system |
| 17:18.54 | alestane | Rebooting |
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| 17:24.18 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeple... award of the month... goes to the user who made a banner for her site using Word and expected it to load as an image.... |
| 17:24.30 | Lopeppeppy | nearly snarfed her drink reading that email. |
| 17:24.38 | cogwheel | peppy wants a wave? |
| 17:24.57 | Lopeppeppy | I would like to join the Wave, if you have more invites left. You remember my email? |
| 17:25.06 | cogwheel | i have it somewhere in my tubes =) |
| 17:25.16 | Lopeppeppy | I PM it. |
| 17:25.20 | cogwheel | kk |
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| 17:25.54 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, Cogwheel. I've been lagging behind the local geeks, they're all laughing at me and doing their wavy things without me! |
| 17:26.19 | cogwheel | yeah, Shirik|AFK's a jerk |
| 17:26.21 | cogwheel | :P |
| 17:26.30 | Lopeppeppy | He's super mean to me. |
| 17:27.41 | Shirik | wtf |
| 17:28.13 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy :( |
| 17:28.14 | Lopeppeppy | Just seein' if you were awake yet, dear. |
| 17:28.21 | Shirik | I am now |
| 17:28.27 | cogwheel | I love it when a well-known doctor, promoter of reason and science, uses language like "Therefore, in the eyes of science, homeopathy = total fail" |
| 17:29.05 | kdtresh | well, keep in mind, that we can cross out the m in e=mc^2 because energy = vision |
| 17:29.09 | cogwheel | Shirik: you likes to make fun of non-wavy ppl imo :P |
| 17:29.16 | cogwheel | kdtresh: >< |
| 17:29.17 | Shirik | no, just you |
| 17:29.41 | cogwheel | feels so special |
| 17:30.30 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, at least not me! |
| 17:30.59 | Lopeppeppy | Homeopathy isn't a total fail. It has differing levels of success sometimes, but then again, so do various pharmaceuticals, which nobody seems to care about. |
| 17:31.09 | kdtresh | so do various levels of placebo |
| 17:31.22 | cogwheel | kdtresh: when my grandma first sent me a link to that video, it was at barely under 5 * rating and had nothing but positive comments |
| 17:31.43 | cogwheel | not any more ;) |
| 17:31.57 | kdtresh | cogwheel: i like how the description says a background in science is helpful for watching it |
| 17:32.08 | cogwheel | Lopeppeppy: did you know that the color of a sugar pill can change the effectiveness of the placebo effect? |
| 17:32.25 | cogwheel | kdtresh: gah... my brain = total fail |
| 17:32.34 | cogwheel | i was thinking of a different video |
| 17:32.43 | cogwheel | but yeah... |
| 17:33.07 | Lopeppeppy | color has a big effect on the mind, yes. |
| 17:33.40 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm going down to cow town, the cow's a friend to me... |
| 17:33.50 | NightHawkTheSane | gurgles and flollops a bit. |
| 17:34.06 | cogwheel | kdtresh: this is the one i was referring to wrt ratings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw43QDiaDnE&feature=player_embedded |
| 17:35.55 | cogwheel | ^ very dangerous because it's horribly short on facts yet totally convincing to the uninformed |
| 17:36.39 | Lopeppeppy | Those are the best evil-mercials, cog. |
| 17:37.10 | cogwheel | fwiw, here's the article where the "total fail" quote came from: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2558 |
| 17:42.58 | NightHawkTheSane | It may be that it's too early in the morning and I'm running on <5 hrs sleep, but this amused me greatly: http://thisisindexed.com/2009/11/freaky-or-just-arctic/ |
| 17:46.52 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, cute. |
| 17:47.04 | NightHawkTheSane | and now, creepy: http://notalwaysright.com/a-mother-who-will-never-be-out-dated/3111 |
| 17:47.23 | Lopeppeppy | Weirdness. |
| 17:54.14 | kdtresh | cogwheel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0c5yClip4o |
| 17:54.33 | kdtresh | note: chemistry background is helpful, apparently |
| 17:55.05 | cogwheel | kdtresh: yeah, i had seen that one too =) |
| 17:56.06 | cogwheel | i knew what you were referring to with "well, keep in mind, that we can cross out the m in e=mc^2 because energy = vision" but my brain skipped tracks with my following statements |
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| 17:59.09 | kdtresh | it's painful to watch |
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| 18:01.16 | Fisker | Garmin leaks plan for Android phone <- ilol'd |
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| 18:12.57 | Ginji | Omg Slashdot is broken! |
| 18:13.02 | Ginji | Oh wait |
| 18:13.06 | Ginji | Nevermind |
| 18:15.34 | Ginji | Bah, I need a vacation |
| 18:16.07 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 18:16.08 | purl | ~pong |
| 18:20.32 | cogwheel | ~lart capacitive touch screens |
| 18:20.32 | purl | slaps capacitive touch screens around with a large trout |
| 18:21.55 | Fisker | NO kdtresh |
| 18:21.56 | Fisker | NOOOOO |
| 18:22.31 | cogwheel | ~lart physiology |
| 18:22.31 | purl | blasts physiology with a huge firehose then strangles physiology with it |
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| 18:23.05 | cogwheel | me being slightly too warm for comfort should not make my phone inoperable |
| 18:23.23 | cogwheel | (and yes, i've had the same problem the extremely few times I've touched an iphone) |
| 18:23.41 | cogwheel | (before jelly says iDon't have that problem) |
| 18:26.46 | NightHawkTheSane | cogwheel: o_0 you m ean when YOU'RE warm, the touch screen doesn't work? |
| 18:27.38 | cogwheel | yes. the galvanic skin response in my hands increases due to increased blood flow, plus added perspiration. It's not like my hands are wet or anything, but it fucks with the capacitance sensors |
| 18:27.47 | Shirik | I've had problems where if my hands are wet, it doesn't work |
| 18:27.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Interesting |
| 18:28.10 | NightHawkTheSane | I sometimes have issues with my g1 when my hands are cold and/or moist. |
| 18:28.16 | NightHawkTheSane | but never too warm. |
| 18:28.19 | NightHawkTheSane | (not that i dont believe you) |
| 18:28.27 | Shirik | are you sure they're using capacitance to detect your hand's presence? |
| 18:28.35 | Shirik | That seems like an extremely unusual way to go |
| 18:28.47 | NightHawkTheSane | (also, operating a touch screen phone in the rain is seriously annoying) |
| 18:28.52 | cogwheel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen#Projected_capacitance |
| 18:29.08 | cogwheel | "Examples of consumer devices using projected capacitive touchscreens include Apple Inc.'s iPhone and iPod Touch, HTC's G1, and HTC Hero, Motorola's Droid, Palm Inc.'s Palm Pre and Palm Pixi and more recently the LG KM900 Arena, Microsoft's Zune HD, Sony Walkman X series, Sony Ericsson's Aino and now Vidalco's Edge, D1 and Jewel phones." |
| 18:29.19 | nevcairiel | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.28 | Shirik | OH |
| 18:29.37 | Shirik | they're not detecting the capacitance of your hand though |
| 18:29.45 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 18:29.54 | cogwheel | no, they're detecting changes in the capacitance due to my hand's presence |
| 18:30.12 | Shirik | the capacitance changes due to the introduction of a ...... |
| 18:30.21 | Shirik | fuck |
| 18:30.21 | Shirik | I fail |
| 18:30.25 | Shirik | I should know this word |
| 18:30.33 | Ginji | object |
| 18:30.35 | Shirik | no |
| 18:30.44 | Shirik | that would imply any object works |
| 18:30.55 | Shirik | dielectric |
| 18:30.58 | Shirik | that's it |
| 18:31.17 | Shirik | Technically the hand conducts electricity, so it's not a true dielectric, but it is when paired with another dielectric |
| 18:31.55 | Shirik | anyway, that's neat cogwheel |
| 18:32.20 | Ginji | What I don't understand is why it hurts so much more to be at the end of a line of people that are touching and electric fence |
| 18:32.28 | Ginji | s/and/an/ |
| 18:32.52 | Shirik | you have experience with this? |
| 18:32.59 | Ginji | Yes, boys will be boys |
| 18:33.02 | Shirik | cogwheel: Interesting because that is like the inverse property of how traffic lights work? |
| 18:33.21 | Shirik | er, with no ? |
| 18:33.49 | cogwheel | Shirik: i thought it was the same... the fact that your skin is conductive is why it works... |
| 18:34.04 | Shirik | it's not the same, it's actually an inverted property |
| 18:34.11 | Shirik | traffic lights work on inductance |
| 18:34.17 | cogwheel | ah |
| 18:34.30 | Shirik | inductors and capacitors always show inversion like this, so you can replace any capacitor with an inductor, or vice-versa |
| 18:34.38 | Shirik | with slight changes to the circuit |
| 18:34.48 | Lopeppeppy | "Stop lubricating the human!" |
| 18:34.57 | Shirik | but inductors are too big to fit in an iphone :) |
| 18:36.09 | zenzelezz | with sufficient force, everything is possible |
| 18:36.40 | Lopeppeppy | Technical adjustment, not force. ;) |
| 18:36.42 | Shirik | disagree |
| 18:36.50 | Shirik | how do you exceed the speed of light? |
| 18:37.14 | Lopeppeppy | Takes the right kind of cheese |
| 18:37.20 | Shirik | oh |
| 18:37.23 | cogwheel | Shirik: by warping the space around you, of course! |
| 18:37.25 | Shirik | is that what I've been missing in my equation |
| 18:37.30 | Shirik | the cheese factor |
| 18:37.36 | Lopeppeppy | The cheese is important |
| 18:37.49 | Shirik | is that a coefficient or an offset? |
| 18:37.56 | Lopeppeppy | Prime factor |
| 18:38.33 | NightHawkTheSane | you just need gouda equations. |
| 18:38.35 | Ancu | Any official word on the monk yet? |
| 18:38.57 | NightHawkTheSane | ~whaleshield |
| 18:38.58 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield nighthawkthesane from the blast. |
| 18:39.00 | zenzelezz | which monk? |
| 18:39.03 | Lopeppeppy | Keep checkign the forums and the checkout page. |
| 18:39.12 | NightHawkTheSane | monk? |
| 18:39.57 | Ancu | pandaran monk is sold out. And grams playing right now, so loading the wow forums is a bad idea |
| 18:40.12 | zenzelezz | "sold out"? |
| 18:40.14 | Lopeppeppy | Apparently it's being discussed on the customer service forums, Ancu |
| 18:40.20 | NightHawkTheSane | sold out? how do you sell out of a non-physical product? |
| 18:40.20 | Lopeppeppy | In all seriousness, though, we're looking into the issue presently. My teammates and I will update you all as further information becomes available. :) |
| 18:40.28 | zenzelezz | NightHawkTheSane: they ran out of bits |
| 18:40.37 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: zomg! BIT ROT IS REAL! |
| 18:40.49 | Ginji | Degration of the source material because of too many reads |
| 18:40.52 | zenzelezz | I don't understand people who decide to skip the $150 US for a travellers insurance when they go travelling. Sure enough the you have $150 more to spend, but you take such a huge risk |
| 18:41.05 | Lopeppeppy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=21048546241&sid=1 |
| 18:41.33 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: i would make that decision depending on where i go |
| 18:42.17 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: Norwegians who get sick in the US without a travellers insurance can end up having to pay up to $60'000 on their own |
| 18:42.29 | zenzelezz | within the EU, as an EU resident, you may have some protection |
| 18:42.51 | nevcairiel | well US health system is fail, so i would get the insurance for sure |
| 18:43.05 | Ginji | I wouldn't even go there |
| 18:43.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i wouldn't go there either... oh, wait.. fuck. |
| 18:43.39 | zenzelezz | travellers insurance covers a lot of stuff... a coworker's neighbour had a kid scratch his car (at home), and it was covered |
| 18:43.42 | Lopeppeppy | Zing yourself much, NHTS? |
| 18:43.46 | Lunessa | EU health system isn't really better. Just different. |
| 18:43.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: only on purpose :D |
| 18:44.04 | nevcairiel | Lunessa: at least we treat first, ask for insurance later =P |
| 18:44.25 | nevcairiel | besides, "EU health system" is rather generic, every country has its own |
| 18:44.37 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: You go for emergency care, we'll treat you too. |
| 18:44.41 | Lopeppeppy | ^ |
| 18:44.45 | Thunder_Child | http://notalwaysright.com/translation-stupid/3022 |
| 18:44.46 | zenzelezz | I'm glad I live in Norway when it comes to health care; but I think other EU countries are mostly decent too |
| 18:45.17 | Fisker | Danish is fucking awesome |
| 18:45.19 | Fisker | or was anyways |
| 18:46.28 | Ginji | Wasn't there that case about a woman who had leaking implants who went the the emergency help and then had her bill rejected by the insurance cause it wasn't (according to them) an emergency |
| 18:46.41 | zenzelezz | Fisker: the trouble is no-one understands Danish, so you risk having the wrong surgery |
| 18:46.52 | Ginji | zenzelezz: that happens everywhere |
| 18:47.04 | Fisker | now you just ordered a thousand liters of milk |
| 18:47.09 | zenzelezz | Kamelåså? |
| 18:48.05 | haste | hahahaha |
| 18:48.09 | haste | I love that sketch :D |
| 18:48.26 | Ginji | Mit luftpudefartøj er fyldt med ål |
| 18:48.27 | haste | Unpacking OO.o build tree - [ go and have some Belgian beer ] ... |
| 18:48.32 | haste | bawww |
| 18:48.37 | haste | I missed the damn link above :( |
| 18:48.59 | nevcairiel | they changed the message? |
| 18:49.08 | haste | might be random? |
| 18:49.20 | nevcairiel | it was "go and have some True Blood" or so |
| 18:49.52 | nevcairiel | version? :P |
| 18:50.30 | haste | good question! |
| 18:50.32 | haste | I have no idea tbh |
| 18:50.42 | haste | 3.1.1 if I saw correctly on the build spam |
| 18:50.48 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 18:50.53 | nevcairiel | maybe random |
| 18:50.56 | haste | 3.1.1.4 |
| 18:52.22 | zenzelezz | I think X-Chat still says "Now type 'make' and pray" |
| 18:52.23 | haste | baww, compile error |
| 18:53.05 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:53.08 | Fisker | baww slap'd |
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| 18:55.18 | Fisker | i need a headset haste |
| 18:55.19 | Fisker | guide me |
| 18:55.30 | haste | Fisker: with or without mic? |
| 18:57.52 | Dagmar | Without a mic they're generally called "headphones" |
| 18:58.00 | Dagmar | ...although that actually makes less sense. |
| 18:58.29 | cogwheel | why's it make less sense? it's a sound (phon) device you put on your head :P |
| 18:58.44 | Dagmar | cogwhell: So what's a headset a "set" of? |
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| 18:59.04 | nevcairiel | a set of phones and mic! |
| 18:59.04 | cogwheel | phones & mic? |
| 18:59.17 | Dagmar | One has a much more granular description in it's name than the other, although it provides less functionality |
| 18:59.18 | Lopeppeppy | I like my logitech wireless set. |
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| 18:59.34 | kdtresh | i've got a wired logitech that works great |
| 18:59.40 | Dagmar | Logitech Premium Laptop USB Headset here. |
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| 18:59.49 | Dagmar | Who knew "premium" comes at the $40 price point? |
| 19:00.14 | haste | asking for headset tips from me yelds a 150 USD minimum :p |
| 19:00.24 | Dagmar | Ouch |
| 19:00.36 | Dagmar | Yeah, the only time I spend that much money is when I'm buying DJ headphones |
| 19:00.43 | haste | and I have several above that :( |
| 19:00.55 | Dagmar | If I start needing headphones like thta for gaming, my neighbors are probably gonna be pissed |
| 19:00.58 | Ginji | audiophile much? |
| 19:02.28 | Fisker | actually wondering if the soundblaster shit would be worth anything |
| 19:02.39 | Fisker | otherwise i was thinking a sennheiser pc350 |
| 19:03.14 | Dagmar | Well, if it's "shit" then probably not. |
| 19:03.24 | Dagmar | Yer playin' a game. |
| 19:03.39 | Fisker | :3 |
| 19:03.44 | Dagmar | The quality of the output audio is NOT the result of a multi-million dollar recording studio. |
| 19:04.08 | Fisker | :3? |
| 19:04.10 | Dagmar | That having been said, so long as you don't buy Labtec, or anything that uses Bluetooth, the sound reproduction will probably be "good enough" |
| 19:04.24 | Fisker | wut? |
| 19:04.30 | Dagmar | Bluetooth doesn't have the breadth of frequency reproduction. |
| 19:04.46 | Aelo | am i doing these tabs correctly? http://pastey.net/128203-3251 :P |
| 19:04.57 | Dagmar | It will fail noticeably whenever you loot a mob because the jingling coins sound will sound more like someone chewing jawbreakers |
| 19:05.05 | Aelo | for example, should i do the PanelTemplates_UpdateTabs in every OnClick, or is there a better function/way |
| 19:05.32 | Dagmar | Your primary concern with a headset is going to be tied between "is the mic hot enough?" and "will this make my ears go floppy during a long raid?" |
| 19:05.56 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 19:06.08 | Ginji | Or "Will this thing be comfortable to to wear for X hours" |
| 19:06.12 | Fisker | though i don't get what you mean with hot enough :P |
| 19:06.12 | Ginji | Which my current one isn't |
| 19:06.17 | Ginji | It's cutting in my ears! |
| 19:06.24 | Fisker | that's the same as "will my ears go floppy during a long raid" |
| 19:06.24 | Dagmar | Back-of-the-neck styles generally put less weight on the ears than anything else does, so less ear-floppy there... |
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| 19:06.48 | Ginji | You only get floppy ears from those full cover thingies |
| 19:06.59 | haste | Fisker: get beyerdynamic mmx2 if your going to use it for VT and such, no need to go higher |
| 19:07.10 | Ginji | Dagmar: and those (at least my one) are cutting in the flesh |
| 19:07.18 | Dagmar | Ginji: Amusingly, not with my DJ headphones |
| 19:07.33 | Ginji | For which you payed >150 |
| 19:07.37 | Dagmar | ...and if your headphones are cutting into your flesh it's time to throw them away |
| 19:07.49 | Dagmar | Ginji: Actually only $120, but they have no mic |
| 19:07.56 | Fisker | my head is pretty freaking big :P |
| 19:07.58 | haste | Fisker: if you really want a good microphone and phones I would say beyerdynamics dt 290-80 |
| 19:07.59 | Ginji | I only had them for like a year |
| 19:08.50 | Fisker | bam! |
| 19:08.50 | Ginji | Dunnn! |
| 19:08.50 | haste | you broke it! |
| 19:08.50 | Lopeppeppy | steals the channel! |
| 19:08.50 | Dagmar | The $120 is all about the durability of the cable (DJs move around a lot) and how much sound insulation the muffs give (because for some reason it's hard to hear headphones with 20,000w of bass bins ten feet away |
| 19:09.38 | Fisker | can't even find those beyerdynamic's here :P |
| 19:09.38 | haste | lulz |
| 19:09.38 | zenzelezz | okay, I just received something shipped from the US, but I'm guessing the note that accompanied it wasn't written by a native English speaker... |
| 19:09.38 | zenzelezz | "Hello Value Customer: Here is the free gift for you. If you satisfied you product please leave the Feedback to us. Your Feedback is very important to us. Hope we can doing business in future." |
| 19:09.38 | haste | Fisker: DT 290-80 is what they used when they covered football on TV here in norway |
| 19:09.38 | haste | Fisker: they are _awesome_ |
| 19:09.38 | Fisker | ;o |
| 19:09.39 | zenzelezz | I don't want to know how they think I would "satisfy the product" |
| 19:09.57 | NightHawkTheSane | well, unless its a mail order bride.. |
| 19:10.05 | Lunessa | For gaming, I use the XBox 360 wireless headset on my PC. Good for about 7 hours. no wires. |
| 19:10.31 | zenzelezz | NHTS: afraid not, it was a quite inanimate object |
| 19:10.46 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: hey, thats no way to talk about a woman.. :( |
| 19:10.46 | Ginji | Is it fleshy? |
| 19:10.59 | NightHawkTheSane | unless you orderd her dead.. i guess.. |
| 19:11.06 | zenzelezz | nothing organic |
| 19:11.07 | NightHawkTheSane | ordered* |
| 19:11.33 | NightHawkTheSane | uh, real doll? :P |
| 19:11.34 | zenzelezz | nothing sexual |
| 19:11.38 | Lunessa | Did this channel suddenly become NSFW? |
| 19:11.51 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, i think i'm done.. |
| 19:11.52 | zenzelezz | probably |
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| 19:12.01 | zenzelezz | most people don't have the subtlety I do |
| 19:12.18 | NightHawkTheSane | subtlety is for hours after noon. |
| 19:12.43 | zenzelezz | it is eight hours after noon here |
| 19:13.19 | Ginji | Bah, I now need to update my kde. ricer-os has dropped support for 3.5 |
| 19:13.33 | NightHawkTheSane | here it's not. i've been awake for <4 hours. i have the subtlety (and mental capacity) of a brick right now. ;) |
| 19:14.14 | Dagmar | Ginji: HAHAHAH |
| 19:14.17 | Ginji | Huh? |
| 19:14.26 | Dagmar | Ginji: You're about to pay dearly for your adherence to KDE |
| 19:14.31 | Dagmar | 4 is whacked |
| 19:14.38 | Ginji | Still? |
| 19:14.57 | Dagmar | Dude one of their facilities actually starts up MySQL |
| 19:15.00 | Ginji | I tried one of the early releases a year ago or something, when it wasn't finished |
| 19:15.01 | Dagmar | ...for a _desktop_ app |
| 19:15.07 | Ginji | Hehehe |
| 19:15.15 | Ginji | Meh, I have that installed already anyway |
| 19:15.34 | Dagmar | I was like, "How the @#$@ is my homedir almost 300M used on a new install that I've run for ten minutes?" |
| 19:15.50 | Ginji | Who was the culprit? Amarok? |
| 19:15.51 | Dagmar | ...then I look and see almost 200M of mysql databases it generated |
| 19:16.06 | Dagmar | Nope. Their desktop search indexer redefines "overblown" |
| 19:16.15 | Ginji | Ohh, I don't need that |
| 19:16.36 | Ginji | I can probably omit it from installation |
| 19:16.36 | Ginji | After all, I'm running ricer-os |
| 19:16.42 | Dagmar | Well, you aren't going to like the new launcher much either |
| 19:16.51 | Dagmar | A _bunch_ of old heads fled KDE on this release |
| 19:17.18 | Dagmar | It looks like they tried to emulate Vista's launcher and just simply made it worse |
| 19:17.20 | Ginji | I really don't like gnome |
| 19:17.50 | Ginji | So I'd have to look for something else entirely |
| 19:17.59 | Ginji | But I'll give it a go first |
| 19:21.37 | Shirik | distributed systems are strange |
| 19:21.55 | Ginji | git? |
| 19:21.55 | Shirik | I just merged 4 branches together, and there are only 3 developers |
| 19:22.10 | Shirik | my log basically looks like spaghetti |
| 19:22.15 | Shirik | no, bzr |
| 19:23.18 | Dagmar | For extra fun, insert bundles of five lines of whitespace in random places |
| 19:23.52 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/11/11/funny-pictures-love-2/ |
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| 19:24.44 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/11/10/funny-pictures-ecstasy/ |
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| 19:26.15 | Shirik | that being said, distributed systems also just saved my ass |
| 19:26.17 | Ginji | I'm off to enlightenment so I can start upgrading |
| 19:26.26 | Shirik | svn got no cherrypick operation |
| 19:26.45 | Shirik | I guess it kinda does, but it's a good way to make yourself cry |
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| 19:27.40 | Ginji | Ooeeh, enlightenment |
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| 19:30.40 | zenzelezz | Ginji: 16 or 17? |
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| 19:31.29 | Ginji | 16 |
| 19:32.37 | Ginji | Can't remember the shortcuts! |
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| 19:35.28 | Jelly_ | Dear Cog, <3 - Jelly |
| 19:35.33 | cogwheel | <3 |
| 19:35.52 | |Jelly| | Honestly though, I've never had the problem with me screen. |
| 19:35.55 | zenzelezz | (less than three) minus Jelly |
| 19:36.01 | zenzelezz | this math is getting tough to follow |
| 19:36.13 | |Jelly| | We're trying to confuse you. |
| 19:36.21 | zenzelezz | you don't need math to do that |
| 19:37.26 | |Jelly| | This will however be my first winter with my phone (whatever that means in Texas) so we'll see once I start getting cold if I have issues with my screen. |
| 19:37.45 | Dagmar | |Jelly| It means fewer mexicans |
| 19:38.40 | |Jelly| | Uhh, I doubt it. lol |
| 19:39.38 | Dagmar | No, it'll occasionally snow and ice down there |
| 19:39.55 | Dagmar | No one wants to invade a foriegn country in icy conditions |
| 19:40.01 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi Jelly-bean! |
| 19:40.05 | Lunessa | Feh, Jelly lives so far North (for Texas) that the occasionally get snow. |
| 19:40.14 | |Jelly| | Sleet isn't snow. |
| 19:41.07 | |Jelly| | And BTW, you need to come get your Shiner with me. |
| 19:41.14 | |Jelly| | I found a place where it's on happy hour. |
| 19:41.21 | Lopeppeppy | No punching Lunessa. |
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| 19:41.43 | |Jelly| | Which believe it or not, even though it's from Texas, a lot of places (up here) still consider it a premium/import. Quite stupid. |
| 19:42.24 | Lunessa | Jelly - Nice. Sometime soon. I can't right now. The 2 weeks away for dad's funeral pretty much wiped out my discretionary funds. |
| 19:42.42 | Lunessa | I bet they do the same for Ziegenboch. |
| 19:42.55 | |Jelly| | Nah, I wouldn't expect it this close to the holidays. Maybe January sometime? |
| 19:43.15 | zenzelezz | then screw discretion, go all out blatant |
| 19:44.01 | Lunessa | Yeah - could do that. Depends on if I make another long trip - If I do, I'll swing through your area for a day. |
| 19:44.52 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: I haz no real credit. Can only spend money I actually /have/. |
| 19:45.05 | zenzelezz | then you need to learn from women |
| 19:45.28 | Lunessa | Hahah. Don't get me started on why I have no credit and the word women. |
| 19:45.33 | zenzelezz | gives Lopeppeppy a cautious look |
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| 19:45.48 | Ginji | that I'm not ridden of kde-3.5 packages |
| 19:45.53 | Lopeppeppy | This story, I know it. Mine is kind of the same, only in reverse! |
| 19:45.53 | Ginji | s/not/now/ |
| 19:45.56 | Ginji | Bag it's late! |
| 19:46.01 | Ginji | Bah! |
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| 19:48.33 | Dagmar | Splitters |
| 19:48.46 | Shirik | where are the git gurus |
| 19:49.14 | Shirik | If I have two diverging branches that are supposed to be merged together (after a pull), but I want to kill a branch, how do I do that? |
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| 19:51.08 | krka | kill? can't you just abandon it? |
| 19:51.25 | nevcairiel | you can delete a branch, if you want |
| 19:51.50 | Shirik | well it's not like it's a separate branch |
| 19:51.57 | Shirik | like, I just did a pull operation |
| 19:52.10 | Shirik | and the pull pulled in changes which diverge from my local changes |
| 19:52.23 | Shirik | so now I need to merge them, but actually what I WANT to do is ignore those changes and overwrite them |
| 19:52.44 | nevcairiel | so just push your old branch to the repository |
| 19:53.01 | Shirik | it's that easy? |
| 19:53.13 | Shirik | what happens to the old changes? |
| 19:53.15 | nevcairiel | well its non-fast-forward, so its not recommended to do |
| 19:53.17 | nevcairiel | they get lost |
| 19:53.34 | nevcairiel | you can of course store them in a branch, if you want |
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| 19:55.27 | Shirik | I don't want to save them, it's just I didn't expect that to be the answer |
| 19:55.27 | Shirik | but it was |
| 19:55.49 | nevcairiel | with non-ff pushes you can change anything and everything in the remote repository |
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| 19:56.04 | nevcairiel | you should tell whoever else is pulling from there that you are doing it |
| 19:56.30 | |Jelly| | Peppy is eating in my cafe! |
| 19:57.12 | Aelo | was there any reply on the pandaren pet? |
| 19:57.20 | Aelo | *blue reply |
| 19:57.40 | haste | what about the pandaren pet? |
| 19:58.15 | Dagmar | It's only for people who pay their own bills. |
| 19:58.18 | Shirik | nevcairiel: It mostly doesn't matter :) The conflict occurred because two people tried to merge the baseline branch into a development branch |
| 19:58.19 | Aelo | theyre "out of stock" |
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| 19:58.25 | Shirik | and did it differently |
| 19:58.48 | Dagmar | I doubt that they're out of pixels to sell |
| 19:59.07 | nevcairiel | maybe they earned enough money |
| 19:59.21 | Lopeppeppy | They're looking into it, read the Customer Service forums. |
| 19:59.24 | haste | not in the eu at least |
| 19:59.33 | Dagmar | I blame chinese scalpers |
| 19:59.44 | Aelo | oh theyre "in stock" again now :P |
| 19:59.44 | Dagmar | ...or ticketmaster. |
| 19:59.48 | Dagmar | It's a toss-up really |
| 20:00.31 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
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| 20:01.37 | Lunessa | Blue comments were that they're looking into it. |
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| 20:08.19 | Dagmar | I'm still waiting for someone to sue Ticketmaster for pretending to be scalpers and then blaming scalpers in the press |
| 20:08.41 | zenzelezz | http://kotaku.com/5401281/the-onion-reveals-modern-warfare-3 |
| 20:08.58 | Dagmar | Local news station here did some digging into Kith Urban's shows, since they like to claim "All tickest just $25" and so on "to help the poor" |
| 20:09.09 | Fisker | you wouldn't release MW3 so early zenzelezz |
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| 20:09.19 | Dagmar | Turns out that one such show, only 391 tickets out of 15,000 actually sold for $20 |
| 20:09.37 | Fisker | lies and deceit? |
| 20:10.11 | Dagmar | The show next week had tickets for $25, but Ticketmaster actually only sold about 400 tickets at that price--the vast majority of the rest went to the "fan club" (i.e., TicketExchange) and TicketExchange via scalpers who don'ta ctually exist |
| 20:10.26 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure there's something illegal they can be nailed for in there somewhere |
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| 20:30.16 | Esine | so.. anyone played this new battleground Isle of the Conquest? I've been in queue for several hours every day but not got one invite yet |
| 20:30.26 | Esine | also when did they change that you can only queue to max 2 games? |
| 20:30.46 | Esine | 71-79 bracket or whatever |
| 20:31.08 | Ginji | Oh, you're not level 80? |
| 20:31.11 | Ginji | There's your problem |
| 20:31.22 | Shirik | so my circuit breaker is making this awesome noise |
| 20:31.22 | Esine | nah. I've been level 72 for over a year now |
| 20:31.29 | Shirik | definitely sounds like electrical arcing |
| 20:31.36 | Esine | much like how it took me almost 2 years to get to level 70 from 60 |
| 20:31.48 | Ginji | You can go down in level?! |
| 20:31.55 | Ginji | Oh wait, reading fail |
| 20:32.39 | Ginji | But as I recall, they made a seperate bracket for 70/79 which has since died |
| 20:33.14 | Esine | anyway how is the BG? what is it like? |
| 20:33.45 | Ginji | Oh noes! |
| 20:33.49 | Ginji | memleaks |
| 20:35.54 | Shirik | uh |
| 20:36.07 | Shirik | due to memleaks on our servers, we're going to require them to use more memory |
| 20:36.09 | Shirik | ...? |
| 20:36.19 | Ginji | ? |
| 20:36.22 | Lopeppeppy | Get more hamsters because hamsters are running away. |
| 20:36.28 | Lopeppeppy | Do not plug up the habitrail holes. |
| 20:36.31 | Lopeppeppy | Totally makes sense to me. |
| 20:36.33 | Lopeppeppy | NOT!! |
| 20:36.37 | Ginji | ircd-seven is bad? |
| 20:36.39 | Shirik | by taking servers out of rotation, they're going to increase the memory demand |
| 20:36.56 | Ginji | You're seeing it all wrong! |
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| 20:37.21 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: you dont know that, it could take more memory to maintain the info on multiple servers |
| 20:37.29 | Shirik | maybe |
| 20:38.27 | Lopeppeppy | The solution makes sense to the ferrets, let the hamsters work more!!! |
| 20:39.34 | Shirik | great... |
| 20:39.38 | Shirik | tomorrow == cold shower it seems |
| 20:39.53 | Shirik | it's the water heater circuit that's dying, and I'm not going to leave that on while I go to sleep |
| 20:39.57 | Shirik | the circuit breaker is in my room... |
| 20:40.56 | Ginji | Grab a soldering bolt and fix it |
| 20:41.05 | Shirik | uh, no ty |
| 20:41.17 | Esine | LOL |
| 20:41.18 | Shirik | I may do a ton of electrical engineering, but I do not mess around with 120Vac |
| 20:41.20 | Esine | mounts can swim now? |
| 20:41.24 | Esine | wtf |
| 20:41.34 | Esine | how can a robot chicken swim.. |
| 20:41.35 | Shirik | I like my 5V world |
| 20:41.37 | Ginji | Meh, it only hurts like hell, you'll live |
| 20:42.21 | Lopeppeppy | Water wings. |
| 20:45.54 | Esine | and dive too! |
| 20:45.54 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, shower before you turn it off? |
| 20:45.54 | Ginji | Robot Chickens are related to James Bonds' cars |
| 20:45.54 | Shirik | I just did |
| 20:45.54 | Shirik | but tomorrow is not going to be fun |
| 20:45.54 | Lopeppeppy | And PS... your apartment is craptastic. Just sayin'. |
| 20:45.54 | Shirik | I know |
| 20:45.54 | Shirik | I know very much ty |
| 20:45.54 | Lopeppeppy | *huggle* |
| 20:45.54 | Shirik | time to go grade a bunch of papers! |
| 20:45.55 | Shirik | bbl |
| 20:47.35 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 20:48.01 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 20:49.59 | Fisker | oh oh |
| 20:51.37 | Shirik | .......... http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080916115812AAd4nzA |
| 20:51.39 | Shirik | wtf |
| 20:52.19 | Dagmar | Hillbillies. Pfft. |
| 20:52.28 | Lunessa | Successful troll is successful |
| 20:52.45 | Dagmar | Probably not |
| 20:53.00 | Dagmar | Not everywhere has anything even resembling sex ed classesa in the curriculum |
| 20:53.14 | Dagmar | They didnt' in my high school, although they liked to _pretend_ that they did |
| 20:53.25 | Dagmar | I showed up at the council meeting where they were discussing dropping it |
| 20:53.33 | Dagmar | I made people ANRGY |
| 20:53.36 | Dagmar | It was great. |
| 20:54.12 | Dagmar | The "sex ed" class I got? They showed us a film, or tried to. The teacher got embarassed and called it off 1/3 of the way through once they got done teaching us about keeping our faces clean. |
| 20:54.25 | Dagmar | This pattern repeated itself for at least five years. |
| 20:54.54 | Dagmar | ...and they wondered why even though our district had "sex ed curriculum" that the teen pregnancy rates didn't drop, so they were talking about dropping it entirely. |
| 20:55.12 | Dagmar | God I love berating large groups of stupid people about being stupid, in public. |
| 20:55.41 | Ginji | I've never even had sex-ed |
| 20:55.47 | Ginji | Nor did they try |
| 20:56.19 | Dagmar | There were girls in my HS who genuinely thought you could get pregnant from just touching semen. |
| 20:56.32 | Ginji | But seamen can get you pregnant! |
| 20:56.39 | kd3 | winces |
| 20:57.00 | Dagmar | kd3: No joke, I knew a girl who thought she'd gotten pregnant from blowing her boyfriend |
| 20:57.02 | Druidicbeast | what did I just walk in to |
| 20:57.15 | Ginji | That's so sad |
| 20:57.22 | Dagmar | Shirik thought someone was trolling Yahoo Answers |
| 20:57.40 | Ginji | Which is still a possibility |
| 20:57.42 | Dagmar | Sadly, I know of a whole community of people dumb enough to have actually asked the question |
| 20:57.43 | krka | Tobias: I should call the Hot Cops and tell them to dress up as something more nautically themed. Hot sailors maybe. Or better yet, hot sea- |
| 20:57.46 | krka | Michael: I like hot sailors. |
| 20:57.49 | krka | Tobias: Mmmm, me too. |
| 20:57.55 | Bruners | Dagmar: if they kissed afterwards and he then went down on her it is possible |
| 20:58.08 | Dagmar | Bruners: Don't make me find out where you live just to set you on fire |
| 20:58.11 | Ginji | Bruners: Unlikely |
| 20:58.28 | Ginji | Semen doesn't live that long in the public air |
| 20:58.34 | Dagmar | Bruners: The odds are higher that you really DID win the International Lottery |
| 20:58.35 | krka | you mean pubic air? |
| 20:58.41 | Ginji | :) |
| 20:58.42 | Dagmar | lol |
| 20:58.44 | Druidicbeast | lol |
| 20:58.47 | krka | or pubic hair even |
| 20:59.37 | krka | err.. it's getting late and i've worked way too long today, i should avoid falling into these irc traps :/ |
| 20:59.52 | Industrial | it's a trap! |
| 21:01.03 | Dagmar | Newsflash: If you didn't have sex-ed in High School, you DON'T want to learn about it over IRC. |
| 21:01.25 | kd3 | or on the net in general |
| 21:02.11 | Ginji | Why? There's nothing wrong with ASCII pron |
| 21:02.33 | Druidicbeast | Anyone ever used Trillian Astra ? |
| 21:02.39 | Ginji | Is that a car? |
| 21:02.57 | Ginji | Or a chat client |
| 21:03.02 | Ginji | Or both |
| 21:03.03 | Druidicbeast | ^^ |
| 21:03.04 | Industrial | i bet its a weight loss machine |
| 21:03.33 | Industrial | the one with the belt |
| 21:03.37 | Industrial | old school :D |
| 21:03.39 | Druidicbeast | It's one of those all-in-one chat clients. Has an IRC module, just heard about it was wondering if anyone knew more about it. |
| 21:03.51 | Dagmar | It's abysmal |
| 21:04.06 | Kraps | Pandaren back in stock |
| 21:04.19 | Druidicbeast | Dagmar: that bad huh ? |
| 21:04.23 | Ginji | I'm not buying one! Silly conversion rates |
| 21:04.37 | Ginji | exchange rates, or whatever |
| 21:04.57 | Dagmar | Druidicbeast: That one has a long history of being ugly, buggy, and generally annoying |
| 21:05.04 | Dagmar | You're probably far better off with Pidgin |
| 21:05.15 | Esine | just don't use pidgin for IRC, it's terrible |
| 21:05.20 | Druidicbeast | Dagmar: Pidgin is the open source one ? |
| 21:05.30 | Ginji | I use xchat for everything |
| 21:05.37 | nevcairiel | wasnt astra supposed to be a complete new and fixed thing? |
| 21:05.41 | Esine | Ginji: what proxy do you use? |
| 21:05.45 | Esine | irc<->msn/aim? |
| 21:05.50 | Ginji | bitlbee |
| 21:06.04 | Esine | oh.. .. isn't that an external service or maybe I'm mistaken? |
| 21:06.13 | Ginji | Yes, but we have a local server :P |
| 21:06.19 | Esine | ah good |
| 21:06.30 | Druidicbeast | nevcairiel: I guess? Not sure, just found out about it today. Was curious if anyone knew anything about it. It looked interesting. |
| 21:07.40 | nevcairiel | I dunno, i use pidgin, but not for irc |
| 21:07.53 | Esine | irc is pretty awesome otherwise |
| 21:07.56 | Esine | sorry, pidgin* |
| 21:08.00 | Esine | well irc too |
| 21:08.38 | Lunessa | I think Peppy uses Astra for IRC. |
| 21:08.48 | Druidicbeast | Ok, thanks. I'll take a look at that one. Just thought it would be nice to roll them all in to one; however, that isn't always the case with somethings. |
| 21:12.59 | kd3 | oh ow |
| 21:13.02 | kd3 | today's ptr build is huge |
| 21:13.08 | kd3 | ~180MB |
| 21:13.09 | Fisker | like your mother? |
| 21:13.40 | NeoTron | new content! |
| 21:13.48 | kd3 | probably just the music |
| 21:13.57 | Fisker | i got no patch yet! |
| 21:14.07 | Dagmar | Maybe they're reinstating danishes |
| 21:14.37 | Fisker | so is it out yet or are you just dataminin'? |
| 21:14.55 | kd3 | dunno, my script just said it's 725 chunks big and got started on the download |
| 21:15.32 | Fisker | how do you determine the amount of chunks? :o |
| 21:15.48 | kd3 | magic... and binary searches |
| 21:16.17 | Fisker | seems excessive |
| 21:16.27 | Dagmar | Divide by two and then decide whether it's small enough chunks yet |
| 21:16.33 | Fisker | i just had mine go through x->y and download all pieces until 404 |
| 21:16.36 | Dagmar | If no, we divide by two some more |
| 21:16.40 | Esine | hey.. kd3 is that guy who keeps spamming me with the patches every day! |
| 21:16.45 | Fisker | i know how binary search works Dagmar :P |
| 21:16.53 | Dagmar | Then why were you asking? |
| 21:16.59 | Esine | j/k I love them. Even though I never read them |
| 21:17.02 | Fisker | because i was thinking it might have some kind of information |
| 21:17.12 | Fisker | like a tracker or something |
| 21:17.39 | Legorol | DK tanks: Justicebringer or Thunderstrike (from Ony) |
| 21:17.47 | Legorol | (that's meant to be a question) |
| 21:17.55 | kd3 | http://wowi.pastey.net/128229 |
| 21:18.31 | Fisker | assumptions! |
| 21:18.39 | Fisker | i still like just downloading until 404 :P |
| 21:19.33 | Dagmar | I have yet to see anything like a rational standard for chunking size excepting people stuffing things onto Usenet or Rapidshare |
| 21:19.45 | Dagmar | ...since both have a max size "everyone" can get at |
| 21:20.09 | Dagmar | People used to use the size of a floppy disk, but 1.44Mb is pretty much a meaninglessly small value nowadays |
| 21:20.29 | Esine | usenet.. yes I like encoding my files in a way that makes them 1.4 bigger too |
| 21:20.32 | Esine | great idea |
| 21:20.42 | Dagmar | Hey at least they get there |
| 21:21.11 | Dagmar | Oh and they compress well. ;) |
| 21:23.51 | Ginji | Going to search for some syrup waffle ice cream |
| 21:23.58 | Dagmar | Use Bing |
| 21:24.12 | Ginji | I think the fridge is a more logical location |
| 21:24.15 | Dagmar | ...just so you can submit a suggestion to them that their search engine failed to find your ice cream. |
| 21:24.25 | Ginji | hehe |
| 21:24.29 | Dagmar | I've submitted three or four reports like that to them. :) |
| 21:24.55 | Fisker | anyways diff or die |
| 21:24.56 | Ginji | Or how google desktop search failed to find your phone amidst the mess on your desktop |
| 21:26.12 | Dagmar | If they want to make up non-sensical problems that Bing purportedly solves, I will take it upon myself to submit to them non-sensical failure cases that their search engine doesn't solve. |
| 21:26.42 | Druidicbeast | Any idea why I am forced to unlock the frame and do a reload before this works? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/128230 |
| 21:26.57 | Dagmar | Ginji: You keep that that line of reasoning and Google Labs will cook up something that WILL find your cell phone for you if you look in the betas |
| 21:27.07 | Dagmar | Google Voice can find mine |
| 21:27.21 | Dagmar | doh. They already doned it |
| 21:28.07 | Esine | holy hell. You can join battlegrounds anywhere and not just from the battlemasters now?? |
| 21:28.12 | kd3 | yes |
| 21:28.13 | Esine | why hasn't anyone told me about these things |
| 21:28.16 | Esine | when did this happen? |
| 21:28.24 | Dagmar | Um... Do you really want to know? |
| 21:28.24 | kd3 | 3.2? |
| 21:28.26 | kd3 | earlier? |
| 21:28.33 | Dagmar | Months and months ago? |
| 21:28.33 | Esine | when was 3.2 |
| 21:28.42 | Dagmar | Before 3.2 to be sure |
| 21:28.43 | kd3 | www.wowwiki.com/Patch_3.2 |
| 21:28.48 | Esine | welp I've been away for quite a while |
| 21:29.11 | Dagmar | Yeah this is why you don't see crowds around the BG guys anymore |
| 21:29.18 | Dagmar | People queue up and then go fish or something |
| 21:29.39 | Esine | I thought I read all the patch notes but I must have been blinded by the tears coming from my eyes when I learned blizz still hasn't fixed their mistakes |
| 21:29.44 | kd3 | yah, it was 3.1.0 |
| 21:29.50 | kd3 | "Players will now be able to queue for battlegrounds from any location. Leaving a battleground will return you to the location from which you entered. " |
| 21:29.53 | foxlit | moo? |
| 21:30.02 | Esine | namely undoing the removal of +10 frost resistance for dwarves and the stupid stoneform change |
| 21:30.07 | Dagmar | CAUTION: DO NOT ACCEPT A BG INVITE WHILE FLYING |
| 21:30.17 | Dagmar | The result when you leave will be less than satisfactory. |
| 21:30.30 | kd3 | ice block yay |
| 21:30.41 | Dagmar | Dwarf cratering skill |
| 21:32.34 | Dagmar | I should try to hook that for Failtronic Blamemaster |
| 21:33.07 | Dagmar | Just a little line of text on the middle of the screen saying "You may have just failed." if you accept a BG while on a flying mount |
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| 21:34.05 | zenzelezz | yesterday me and my workmates, all programmers, were at a pizza restaurant. On the menu it said something like "Serving you since 1970". I asked my workmates if they thought they had used an invalid timestamp on the menu. At first they all looked really puzzled, then they saw what I was getting at and laughed pretty hard, but I couldn't tell if they were laughing at the joke or the fact that I would make such a joke |
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| 21:36.00 | Shadowed | Wouldn't that be, using an invalid timestamp and running on Windows? :p |
| 21:36.52 | zenzelezz | unix time starts at 1970 too |
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| 21:37.16 | Shadowed | Hrm wonder why I was thinking 1969 |
| 21:37.35 | Adys | Anyone tried Go? |
| 21:38.18 | zenzelezz | I liked a few of the Slashdot comments about Go... "Couldn't they have chosen a name you could actually, you know, google?" "They could call it the Go Programming Language, then we can just google GPL" |
| 21:38.34 | Adys | sa |
| 21:38.35 | Adys | saw |
| 21:38.36 | Shadowed | haha |
| 21:39.19 | Adys | .. hg |
| 21:39.22 | Adys | .. HG |
| 21:39.23 | Adys | SERIOUSLY |
| 21:39.28 | Adys | THEY USE MERCURIAL FOR THEIR REPO. |
| 21:39.35 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 21:39.37 | Adys | kill me now =( |
| 21:39.50 | Adys | I hate being disappointed by google like that |
| 21:39.58 | zenzelezz | kills Adys out of mercy |
| 21:40.40 | zenzelezz | I was annoyed they used := |
| 21:40.44 | ckknight | hey, does anyone know the user stats for Minion? |
| 21:40.47 | ckknight | is curious |
| 21:41.00 | Adys | I wasn't so happy about it either zenzelezz but.. its optional |
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| 21:41.07 | Adys | so meh |
| 21:41.16 | zenzelezz | oh? Interesting |
| 21:41.18 | ckknight | Adys: what's wrong with hg? |
| 21:41.25 | Cairenn|afk | http://thereifixedit.com/2009/09/29/epic-kludge-photo-call-of-the-open-road-doesnt-discriminate/ this is full of so much win |
| 21:41.25 | Fisker | it sounds like HGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG |
| 21:41.32 | zenzelezz | I only read the brief Ars Technica article |
| 21:41.33 | Fisker | you know when you're on the toilet |
| 21:41.46 | Adys | ckknight: everything |
| 21:41.55 | ckknight | Cairenn|afk: do you know? (wrt the user stats of Minion) |
| 21:42.12 | zenzelezz | Cairenn|afk has too many minions to keep track of their stats |
| 21:42.18 | Shadowed | I'm sure she knows, can she tell you is another question :p |
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| 21:42.41 | Cairenn|afk | ckknight: no idea |
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| 21:43.01 | ckknight | Cairenn|afk: know who would? |
| 21:43.10 | Cairenn|afk | Dolby :) |
| 21:43.10 | Fisker | Shirik|AFK probably |
| 21:43.12 | Shadowed | Way to not be informed! |
| 21:43.13 | Fisker | but he's a jerk :( |
| 21:43.16 | Shadowed | he is |
| 21:43.20 | ckknight | trufax, Fisker |
| 21:43.22 | ckknight | <.< |
| 21:43.23 | ckknight | >.> |
| 21:43.31 | ckknight | waves at Dolby |
| 21:43.31 | Fisker | >.< |
| 21:43.52 | Industrial | I am so into All Shall Perish lately :o |
| 21:43.56 | Industrial | <3 Black Gold Reign |
| 21:45.29 | Shirik | Adys |
| 21:45.34 | Shirik | everyone knows they use hg |
| 21:46.07 | Adys | they use svn |
| 21:46.10 | Adys | which.. isnt better, ok |
| 21:46.22 | Shirik | are you sure? |
| 21:46.32 | Adys | yeah |
| 21:46.38 | Shirik | I thought linus talked to them a long time ago and switched them to hg |
| 21:46.46 | Adys | you mean internally? |
| 21:46.52 | Adys | internally i dont care nor give a shit |
| 21:47.13 | Shirik | what are you talking about then? |
| 21:47.39 | Ginji | What's hg? |
| 21:49.08 | Ginji | Oeh! kde has finished merging |
| 21:49.20 | Ginji | Going to test if it works |
| 21:50.23 | Druidicbeast | Anyone mind taking a look at this? Won't work when I load into a new character. http://wowuidev.pastey.net/128230 |
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| 21:51.17 | Ginji | aww bollocks, I forgot kdm |
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| 21:54.29 | Fisker | why is it a function? :o |
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| 21:58.53 | Shirik | ... |
| 21:58.58 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 21:59.02 | Shirik | "Another skill learnt was how to capture a wave and analyze it" |
| 21:59.12 | Shirik | Maybe I should be teaching these guys english instead |
| 22:00.09 | Fisker | slowly backs away |
| 22:00.20 | Shirik | steals Fisker |
| 22:02.58 | nicoli_s | fisker wheres my sc2 |
| 22:04.15 | Fisker | in the wow launcher nicoli_s |
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| 22:05.11 | nicoli_s | thats just a little bit of data, i want the whole thing! |
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| 22:05.27 | Ginji | ooeehh fancy |
| 22:05.51 | Shirik | slaps Fisker with a large nicoli_s |
| 22:06.57 | nicoli_s | man im so glad to not be working on runescape anmore |
| 22:07.03 | nicoli_s | anymore* |
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| 22:13.42 | ckknight | but runescape is so awesome, nicoli_s |
| 22:13.55 | nicoli_s | no no no no |
| 22:14.17 | ckknight | you cannot deny. |
| 22:14.29 | ckknight | you long for the warm clutches of runescape |
| 22:16.49 | Shirik | you worked on runescape? |
| 22:16.54 | Shirik | I have to ban you now, sorry |
| 22:18.05 | nicoli_s | i worked on a site for runescape |
| 22:18.10 | nicoli_s | which is even worse in my opinion |
| 22:18.58 | Ginji | Omg! I just realized I don't have mysql installed |
| 22:19.04 | ckknight | ew MySQL |
| 22:19.09 | Ginji | Exactly! |
| 22:19.21 | Ginji | Why couldn't they just use sqlite |
| 22:19.22 | nicoli_s | i do :( |
| 22:19.29 | Ginji | Why does a desktop need a database |
| 22:19.41 | kd3 | grr |
| 22:19.45 | kd3 | wtb faster download speed |
| 22:20.00 | kd3 | keeps waiting for the gigantic (180MB!) ptr patch to finish downloding |
| 22:20.06 | kd3 | s/lod/load/ |
| 22:20.33 | ckknight | Ginji: what the, this is for your desktop? why? |
| 22:20.36 | ckknight | and which desktop? |
| 22:21.02 | Ginji | kde |
| 22:21.06 | ckknight | hmm |
| 22:21.23 | Ginji | kde4 to be exact |
| 22:21.25 | ckknight | strange that they'd use MySQL |
| 22:21.37 | Ginji | I've avoided amarok since it depended on mysql, but now kmail wants it |
| 22:21.54 | ckknight | SQLite would be better, imo, since it's self-contained |
| 22:21.56 | kd3 | no kidding. figured they would've used some new home-grown incompatible-with-everything-else "relational" db |
| 22:21.56 | Ginji | oeh! semantic-desktop useflag |
| 22:21.59 | ckknight | even if it is less robust |
| 22:22.12 | Ginji | They're using mysql as an embedded db |
| 22:22.20 | Ginji | So I don't think there's a process running |
| 22:22.39 | kd3 | "mysql-embedded-5.1.37-1.fc11.x86_64"? fun stuff |
| 22:22.43 | kd3 | grrs at amarok |
| 22:23.52 | Ginji | I just need a way to avoid akonadi |
| 22:23.59 | Ginji | since that's the culprit I think |
| 22:24.33 | Ginji | Ah! You can force akonadi to use sqlite too |
| 22:25.44 | kd3 | har. thought so. |
| 22:25.56 | kd3 | \\Sound\\Music\\ZoneMusic\\IcecrownRaid |
| 22:26.27 | Shirik | pokes kd3 |
| 22:26.39 | kd3 | hm? |
| 22:28.59 | Shirik | I dunno |
| 22:29.04 | Shirik | you looked like you needed a poke |
| 22:29.41 | Shirik | "Although the procedure section of your lab handout may be very long and detailed, the procedure section of your report should be concise and only include the major parts of the procedure. You should summarize each of the major parts of the procedure in your own words." |
| 22:29.51 | Shirik | Does that sound like a "Please copy the lab instructions into your lab report"? |
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| 22:30.31 | kd3 | jnwhiteh, ping |
| 22:30.40 | kd3 | -## Interface: 30200 |
| 22:30.40 | kd3 | +## Interface: 30300 |
| 22:31.33 | alestane | Shirik: It sounds like a "Please summarize the lab instructions in your report." |
| 22:31.54 | Shirik | so why would you go to the lab instructions and copy it into your report verbatim |
| 22:32.18 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, is the sound option in parrot working properly? |
| 22:32.28 | ckknight | tbh, I don't know |
| 22:32.42 | Thunder_Child | waa |
| 22:35.47 | NeoTron | I guess I should load up the PTR and make fixes for my addons |
| 22:35.51 | NeoTron | they changed the GUID format right? |
| 22:35.55 | kd3 | yes |
| 22:36.04 | kd3 | it's listed on the wiki what changed on API_UnitGUID |
| 22:36.23 | kd3 | emails away! |
| 22:37.07 | NeoTron | I believe I use it in at least two addons |
| 22:37.29 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitGUID#3.3_PTR_changes_to_NPC_ID_portion |
| 22:40.41 | kd3 | makes a note to mention that in his next few emails |
| 22:41.23 | Aelo | if i do LoadAddOn(name), will the code following it be run after the addon is loaded, or "during" it's load? |
| 22:41.46 | Aelo | for a load on demand addon such as the Achievement UI :P |
| 22:45.29 | NeoTron | I do wonder why they decided to change the guid |
| 22:46.01 | kd3 | to give mod authors everywhere heartburn? |
| 22:46.01 | NeoTron | it's a rather subtle change with a rather significant impact... it'd be better if there was an api call to get the unit id without having to parse the unit guid though |
| 22:48.00 | Shirik | Here's a thought |
| 22:48.22 | Shirik | people are lucky they get GUIDs at all |
| 22:48.27 | Shirik | they were originally intended to be just that, a unique ID |
| 22:48.48 | Shirik | the fact that you're taking control of undocumented features means that, if things change, you should be ready to handle it |
| 22:48.52 | Shirik | in fact, here's a more important part |
| 22:49.00 | Shirik | The bits that changed were never used in the first place |
| 22:49.09 | Shirik | You shouldn't be experiencing such a significant problem |
| 22:49.09 | kd3 | ...documented? |
| 22:49.16 | Shirik | kd3: I'll address that in a second |
| 22:49.20 | Shirik | I knew someone was going to jump on that |
| 22:49.27 | kd3 | >.> |
| 22:49.35 | Shirik | Anyway, if you're experiencing a problem reading GUIDs, it's because you failed to mask it properlty |
| 22:49.52 | Shirik | If you're having a problem writing GUIDs, it should be a simple change unless you didn't structure your code properly |
| 22:50.34 | NeoTron | it's not a hard change but it's a devious change. one that is hard to notice if you don't know it's there |
| 22:50.39 | Shirik | About documentation: The majority of Blizzard's functions are relatively self-documenting. Accordingly, all you should assume about a GUID is that it is just that, a GUID. Nowhere in Blizzard's code is it used for any purpose beyond that, and Blizzard's code is our primary documentation source |
| 22:50.54 | kd3 | oh... breaking in for a sec: wtf microsoft? "Microsoft Patents Sudo's Behavior" |
| 22:51.02 | Shirik | lol. |
| 22:51.24 | Shirik | where did you see this? |
| 22:51.27 | kd3 | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091111094923390 |
| 22:51.56 | Dagmar | Yes, it all works out in the end |
| 22:52.11 | Dagmar | The patent people complain that opensource coders keep infringing on their intellectual property... |
| 22:52.29 | Dagmar | ...but it's okay because the patent people keep stealing from the public domain by trying to patent shit that people have been doing in opensource for ages. |
| 22:52.55 | kd3 | I really hope software patenting gets taken out back and shot... soon. this is insane |
| 22:53.35 | Dagmar | What I don't get is how in their document references they mention a freaking KDE doc on using su |
| 22:53.48 | Dagmar | That seems like a "bald-faced lie" to me |
| 22:54.28 | Shirik | Doesn't kdesu basically do what that patent says? |
| 22:54.38 | kd3 | yes |
| 22:54.58 | WobWork | do lies that wear a beard rate better? |
| 22:55.39 | Shirik | However, the guy who wrote this thing also doesn't know what he's talking about |
| 22:55.41 | Lunessa | Naturally. Everyone expects bears to LIE |
| 22:55.42 | Shirik | "Sudo is an integral part of the functioning of GNU/Linux systems" |
| 22:55.54 | Shirik | I have not once used sudo on my Linux system, nor do I ever intend to |
| 22:56.03 | Shirik | my system is also functioning perfectly secure and normally |
| 22:56.09 | Dagmar | Most folks don't use sudo |
| 22:56.17 | Dagmar | ...except for those idiot ubuntu people |
| 22:56.20 | Shirik | my system has no program, nor will it ever have any program, named "sudo" |
| 22:56.37 | cogwheel | Dagmar: that's what sudo bash is for imo ;) |
| 22:56.46 | Dagmar | The reason to use sudo is and always will be, you're in a multi-user environment on a machine that has multiple admins and none of them are allowed to just run amok doing whatever they like. |
| 22:56.48 | Ginji | I've never seen the benefit of sudo |
| 22:56.51 | Shirik | cogwheel: First thing I did on ubuntu was sudo passwd |
| 22:56.52 | Ginji | as a user |
| 22:57.18 | Ginji | meh, on my ubuntu laptop I just use sudo -s |
| 22:57.32 | Shirik | you should get gentoo |
| 22:57.39 | Ginji | cba on my laptop |
| 22:57.44 | Ginji | one PC is more then enough |
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| 22:58.08 | Ginji | And the laptop is only a dual core |
| 22:58.31 | Shirik | what do you mean cba |
| 22:58.46 | cogwheel | can't be arsed |
| 22:59.01 | Shirik | ... |
| 22:59.06 | Shirik | I know that |
| 22:59.10 | Shirik | but why not |
| 22:59.10 | Ginji | Bah, Kaffeine sucks and amarok wants embedded mysql |
| 22:59.18 | Ginji | Cause it'll takes ages |
| 22:59.24 | Dagmar | Ginji: let's say you want to restrict access to the webserver's error log to just YOU |
| 22:59.26 | WobWork | http://golang.org/ |
| 22:59.32 | Shirik | it'll take ages with ubuntu too |
| 22:59.39 | Ginji | Dagmar: talking about a desktop |
| 22:59.44 | Shirik | you just spend your time in the "getting it to do what I want" phase instead of the "getting it set up" phase |
| 22:59.56 | WobWork | GoogleLang? >< |
| 22:59.56 | Dagmar | Ginji: sudo will let the head admin put in a sudo line so that you can merrily sudo less error_log (well, with full paths of course) |
| 23:00.08 | Dagmar | Ginji: It's not useful for a desktop |
| 23:00.15 | Ginji | Exactly :P |
| 23:00.21 | Dagmar | However, the Ubuntu people pimp it out instead of su because sudo runs one command and then exits |
| 23:00.27 | Ginji | And for a laptop having ubuntu, it works for <insert random hardware> |
| 23:00.44 | Dagmar | ...and "Ubuntu people" are prone to gaining root privs and then just leaving that session going |
| 23:01.17 | Dagmar | Then they complain loudly that no one stopped them from doing rm -rf ..? or something siimiilar |
| 23:01.18 | Ginji | Right, let's test kmail |
| 23:01.35 | Shirik | cat /dev/null > /dev/hda |
| 23:01.56 | Shirik | can you do that? |
| 23:02.45 | batrick | won't do anything |
| 23:02.47 | kd3 | dev null's 'write only memory'. try using zero |
| 23:03.16 | Duman | yeah /dev/zero is the gift that keeps on giving |
| 23:03.17 | Ginji | Or, if you want to warm up the room /dev/urandom |
| 23:03.34 | Pneu^ | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda |
| 23:03.36 | cbreak | urandom isn't random enough |
| 23:03.39 | Shirik | cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio is more fun |
| 23:03.42 | Duman | and yeah, better ot use a random datasource if your'e trying to "clobber" the data real good |
| 23:03.45 | Ginji | No, but it burns CPU cycles just fine |
| 23:04.03 | batrick | if you want it to finish in a reasonable amount of time you should write a custom tool to produce the random numbers and write the data |
| 23:04.10 | Shirik | Duman: DoD says all 0s, all 1s, then random |
| 23:04.16 | cbreak | if you want to burn CPU cycles, pipe /dev/random through gzip before writing it to disk... |
| 23:04.20 | Duman | Shirik: well, yes :) |
| 23:04.30 | Pneu^ | pipe it through bzip2 for more cycles than that! |
| 23:04.32 | Duman | haha |
| 23:05.01 | batrick | reading from /dev/zero|/dev/urandom is really slow |
| 23:05.07 | Duman | ps, in case you're not my friend on FB: |
| 23:05.08 | Duman | http://hothardware.com/News/Matrox-Announces-Worlds-First-SingleSlot-Octal-Graphics-Card-/ |
| 23:05.22 | batrick | so if you are trying to make a DBAN like utility, you don't want to do that |
| 23:05.26 | batrick | (Shirik) |
| 23:05.41 | Shirik | well sure |
| 23:05.46 | cbreak | octal graphics card? |
| 23:05.47 | Shirik | but if you want to do it at command line |
| 23:05.49 | cbreak | with only 8 bit color? |
| 23:05.50 | Shirik | it's a hell of a lot faster :P |
| 23:05.55 | Shirik | (to write) |
| 23:06.20 | cbreak | I've had an 8 bit color space on my first computer... |
| 23:06.28 | batrick | sure, but I gained all the time writing my tool in C back when I actually ran the program |
| 23:06.37 | Ginji | cbreak: /dev/random runs out |
| 23:06.37 | Shirik | sure |
| 23:06.41 | Ginji | without input |
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| 23:06.50 | batrick | wiping a 1TB hard drive takes forever :P |
| 23:07.01 | cbreak | on linux maybe :) |
| 23:07.03 | Ginji | You could just use `shred` |
| 23:07.04 | Shirik | heh, /dev/random runs out on my server just trying to handle passwords |
| 23:07.19 | Shirik | I had a bug in fisheye I had to fix by convincing it to use /dev/urandom |
| 23:07.29 | Shirik | it would just hang forever |
| 23:07.29 | cbreak | according to man page, /dev/random of os x uses a high quality psrng that doesn't run out |
| 23:07.39 | Shirik | that's impossible |
| 23:07.53 | Shirik | It has to get entropy from somewhere |
| 23:07.55 | cbreak | well, it's written by chuck norris. |
| 23:08.01 | Shirik | unless it has radioactive material in it |
| 23:08.08 | NightHawkTheSane | >< |
| 23:08.10 | cbreak | I mean bruce schneier |
| 23:08.11 | Shirik | which, since Apple refuses to let anyone touch their godly PCs, could very well be true |
| 23:08.36 | Shirik | but I think it's more likely that their RNG just sucks and is "user friendly" |
| 23:08.51 | Dagmar | You can buy hardware entropy devices now |
| 23:08.59 | Dagmar | There's kernel support for a bunch of them |
| 23:09.27 | cbreak | "Yarrow" |
| 23:09.40 | Ginji | ooehh, kde4 is fancy with all the composition effects |
| 23:09.52 | cbreak | it says it gets entropy from random kernel jitter |
| 23:09.54 | cbreak | what ever that is |
| 23:10.27 | Ginji | Couldn't they just use the core voltage or something? |
| 23:10.31 | NightHawkTheSane | coworker looking for an error in a log file on production using tail instead of grep. >< |
| 23:10.35 | NightHawkTheSane | sighs |
| 23:10.36 | Shirik | This thing is fun: http://www.entropykey.co.uk/ |
| 23:10.43 | Shirik | cbreak: sounds like marketing tactics |
| 23:10.52 | Shirik | one would hope your kernel doesn't do anything random |
| 23:10.55 | cbreak | marketing in a man page? |
| 23:10.59 | Shirik | yup |
| 23:11.06 | cbreak | that's something new... |
| 23:11.16 | Shirik | same way it's marketing to buy out security vullnerabilities so people don't hear of problems |
| 23:11.41 | cbreak | I doubt there's any corporation that has a product that earns enough to buy it's security holes |
| 23:11.49 | Shirik | you doubt wrong |
| 23:12.11 | cbreak | so, which product has no public holes? :) |
| 23:12.21 | Shirik | oh I didn't say they buy ALL of them |
| 23:12.29 | Shirik | and I also didn't say they could buy all of them if they had the money to/wanted to |
| 23:12.53 | Shirik | however it's pretty well-known/obvious that apple does buy up security holes to avoid full disclosure |
| 23:14.10 | batrick | it's easier just to make a blog making fun of steve jobs |
| 23:14.25 | cbreak | I wonder how much people pay for holes... |
| 23:14.36 | batrick | cbreak: usually 20$ |
| 23:14.56 | cbreak | too little. |
| 23:15.27 | batrick | cbreak: re-read your question, and then my answer :P |
| 23:15.48 | cbreak | I continue to be unmotivated. |
| 23:16.18 | Lunessa | http://graphjam.com/2009/11/10/song-chart-memes-who-calls/ - story of my life. |
| 23:17.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: .. mine too.. |
| 23:17.30 | cbreak | mine's empty. Yay for secret phone numbers. |
| 23:18.30 | Shirik | cbreak: There are security research groups that pay tons, actually |
| 23:18.33 | jnwhiteh | 11/1/8 in HoN |
| 23:18.39 | Shirik | depending on what the problem is |
| 23:18.40 | jnwhiteh | as Valk, was a 75 minute epic match on the 2 lane map |
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| 23:20.29 | jnwhiteh | charged hammer, symbol of rage, post haste, level 4 riftshards, shroud of assassin, geometer's bane |
| 23:21.03 | NightHawkTheSane | people scare me: http://i.imgur.com/Wax20.png |
| 23:21.16 | jnwhiteh | NightHawkTheSane: they are mostly quotes, from what I understand |
| 23:21.19 | jnwhiteh | but hilarious, yes =) |
| 23:23.36 | batrick | NightHawkTheSane: try "what " |
| 23:23.59 | batrick | sixth entry was #1 a day or two ago |
| 23:24.12 | Grum | NightHawkTheSane: ieeeeew that looks like internetexplorer :( |
| 23:24.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Grum: not my screenshot. *shrug* |
| 23:25.36 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 23:27.26 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: that's awesome |
| 23:28.52 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: also look for "what" |
| 23:28.57 | NeoTron | oh someone already said that :P |
| 23:30.02 | Dagmar | Okay, so clearly the botnet hobbyists are polluting searches for giggles again |
| 23:30.13 | jnwhiteh | <3 http://images.gammatester.com/pics/eaed998e39f05548ac9ab00ee5e416e4.png |
| 23:30.20 | NeoTron | heh |
| 23:30.59 | Shirik | jnwhiteh: What is that? |
| 23:31.05 | jnwhiteh | Heroes of Newerth |
| 23:31.11 | jnwhiteh | I have beta invites if anyone wants in =) |
| 23:31.28 | Shirik | no I already need about 6 extra hours in the day to accomplish what I need to do |
| 23:31.32 | Shirik | don't need more things to do |
| 23:31.32 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 23:32.42 | Dagmar | I think what you need is a chemical disinhibitor |
| 23:32.52 | Dagmar | Something to help you abandon the things you don't really need to do. |
| 23:33.04 | Dagmar | Time for Fukitol(tm)! |
| 23:34.09 | Lunessa | Let the QQ begin: http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/11/dollhouse-canceled.html |
| 23:35.01 | krka | show based on a crappy premise |
| 23:35.09 | krka | hard to make it work |
| 23:35.10 | Dagmar | RAWR NO NO NO RAWR WHEEDON IS HOLY RAWR |
| 23:35.13 | krka | there were some good episodes though |
| 23:35.53 | Dagmar | I haven't liked it as much since they took away any chance of seeing Amy Acker in something really skimpy |
| 23:36.02 | DWSR | Does Curse Client v4 backup addons which are not found on Curse.com/ |
| 23:36.44 | Lunessa | I like most of Joss's work. Haven't liked Dollhouse but I was recently encouraged to give it a second try... and now Fox is canceling it. |
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| 23:41.26 | Shirik | You know, ofall the features of Blackberry OS 5.0 |
| 23:41.34 | Shirik | I think I like the loading screen the most |
| 23:41.39 | Shirik | the old loading screen really sucked |
| 23:42.18 | alestane | That doesn't seem to speak so well for the software, if the best feature is the loading screen. |
| 23:42.26 | Lunessa | And... courtesy of someone on FB: http://hothardware.com/News/Matrox-Announces-Worlds-First-SingleSlot-Octal-Graphics-Card-/ |
| 23:42.29 | Shirik | lol no, there are massive improvements all over the place |
| 23:42.35 | Shirik | just the loading screen looks sleek now :D |
| 23:42.48 | Shirik | seriously upgrading to 5.0 has turned it into what feels like a new device |
| 23:43.06 | Shirik | if Storm was released with 5.0 it would have probably held more people off the iphone |
| 23:44.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: honestly, i think a large part of what makes whedon's REALLY good stuff REALLY good is the strenght of cast. |
| 23:44.54 | Antiarc | .....wow. |
| 23:44.55 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ |
| 23:45.05 | NightHawkTheSane | whedon's good, but he's no god of scriptwriting or something. |
| 23:45.08 | Antiarc | I'm pretty sure this tops building a Visual Basic GUI Interface to track the killer's IP address. |
| 23:45.13 | Sargeras | pokes Dolby |
| 23:45.21 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: I liked Firefly a lot. I missed most of his other work during one of my "I don't watch TV at all" pahses. |
| 23:45.37 | NightHawkTheSane | which is why dollhouse kinda sucked, because the cast.. kinda sucked.. |
| 23:45.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: firefly was amazing, but again, the cast was phenomenal for it. :) |
| 23:46.26 | Lunessa | Antiarc: ... that's so lame. |
| 23:47.38 | Antiarc | I'm...just speechless. |
| 23:47.38 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Yes, yes it was. I own the DVDs and the movie. |
| 23:47.38 | Antiarc | Hollywood writers need to step the hell off of my internet |
| 23:47.38 | Antiarc | (4:44:57 PM) battlepope: its like a kid trying to understand what sex is by half overheard bar conversations |
| 23:47.43 | Antiarc | That's pretty much my thoughts on it. |
| 23:47.48 | Lunessa | Antiarc: It's like the "whois" command in that crappy Sandra Bullock movie "The Net" |
| 23:48.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: as do i. well. except disk 3. which has disappeared on me. |
| 23:48.32 | NightHawkTheSane | curses and cries |
| 23:48.38 | Lunessa | She types "whois bad_guy's_name" and gets his whole FBI/CIA/NSA profile. |
| 23:49.37 | Shirik | Anyone with Google Voice know how to report a bug? |
| 23:50.04 | cogwheel | have you tried clicking "Help" ? |
| 23:50.06 | Dagmar | Dial 0 |
| 23:50.11 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, send feedback |
| 23:50.25 | cogwheel | or that |
| 23:50.29 | NightHawkTheSane | sacrifice a microsoft employee at an altar to google. |
| 23:51.38 | Dagmar | I heard if you burn three Microsoft lobbyists by the light of a full moon Sergei Brin will appear and give everyone candy. |
| 23:52.47 | Dagmar | Even if he doesn't, that's three less lobbyists. |
| 23:54.21 | Shirik | it looks like I'm not the only one with the problem |
| 23:54.28 | Shirik | but whether or not they're doing something about it... |
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| 23:55.56 | Shirik | wtf |
| 23:56.05 | Shirik | "A trigger function on an oscilloscope is like a bear trap." |
| 23:56.46 | Grum | what are you playing Shirik? :D |
| 23:56.54 | Shirik | playing? |
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