| 00:00.21 | Bruners | haste: crashed what? |
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| 00:00.54 | mikma | haste: http://kuvaton.com/bshit/mindfuck_look.jpg |
| 00:01.13 | haste | Bruners: wow D: |
| 00:01.25 | haste | 14526 Segmentation fault wine /games/wow/WoW.exe -opengl -nosound |
| 00:01.37 | haste | mikma: too old! |
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| 00:04.57 | Kaso| | ive been having problems with ventrilo over wine recently |
| 00:05.09 | Kaso| | keeps segfaulting randomly >< |
| 00:05.46 | Kaso| | also sometimes crashes several times when connecting before it "stabilises" and works |
| 00:07.14 | haste | but soon we'll have spux! |
| 00:09.58 | Cairenn | Adys: the zip is corrupted |
| 00:10.18 | Cairenn | Adys: it's on hold, just edit when you've fixed the zip |
| 00:10.21 | cogwheel | Shirik: http://cogwheel.info/idop/ =D |
| 00:10.30 | Kaso| | haste, wont spux only support speechx though |
| 00:10.36 | Adys | Cairenn: Oo |
| 00:10.38 | Adys | works here |
| 00:10.43 | Adys | oh |
| 00:10.45 | Adys | tar.gz |
| 00:10.46 | Adys | doh sorry |
| 00:11.00 | Kaso| | or whatever that codec is called |
| 00:11.42 | Wobin | Sarcasm is a good language to know |
| 00:11.49 | Wobin | it's amazing how many people don't understand it |
| 00:12.18 | Wobin | although, I wonder if it's a cultural thing |
| 00:12.37 | Bruners | Kaso|: and why is only having speechx bad ? |
| 00:12.48 | Lopeppeppy | it's hard to grasp in writing, wobin |
| 00:12.59 | Wobin | I suppose you'd have to have a clear enough understanding of the base language to understand when sarcasm is being applied |
| 00:13.00 | Kaso| | well at least the servers i use are only set up to use the gsm codec |
| 00:13.11 | Bruners | because thats the default setting |
| 00:13.15 | Kaso| | yah |
| 00:13.20 | Kaso| | so most servers it wont work |
| 00:13.26 | Bruners | tell your operator to set it to speechx and notice the difference |
| 00:13.32 | Adys | Cairenn: resent sorry |
| 00:13.35 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy, True, a lot of sarcasm is expressed through tone of voice |
| 00:13.44 | Wobin | also personality |
| 00:13.53 | Cairenn | no worries Adys :) |
| 00:13.55 | cogwheel | Iriel: if your C++ brain is awake, you might find that link above interesting |
| 00:13.58 | Bruners | suddnely pure voice in your speakers |
| 00:14.06 | Wobin | if you don't know the person, you won't expect sarcasm from them |
| 00:14.14 | cogwheel | (or horrifying, either way...) |
| 00:14.27 | Kaso| | well yes, but most users dont have the ability to change the settings at will like that, hell most people i know who rent vent servers wouldnt know what i was talking about |
| 00:14.37 | Kaso| | hence from a pragmatic viewpoint, its going to be a pain in the ass to use |
| 00:14.51 | Wobin | because it takes intelligence to express and use sarcasm effectively, and people don't want to take the first impression of a person as being -smart- =P |
| 00:14.51 | Bruners | Kaso|: most people do have the ability, but dont know they can |
| 00:14.51 | haste | they are tinkering with gsm support also |
| 00:15.26 | Adys | [03:02:17] <mikma> haste: http://kuvaton.com/bshit/mindfuck_look.jpg |
| 00:15.29 | Adys | I.. dont get it |
| 00:15.48 | Bruners | the gsm USE flag installs the gsm codec, shouldnt that work ? |
| 00:16.01 | haste | nope |
| 00:17.27 | Lopeppeppy | smart does not preclude a first impression as a smartass bastard I don't want to waste time making a second impression of. |
| 00:18.25 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy, unless they have a preconcieved notion, people are more likely to lowball the intelligence expectation of strangers |
| 00:18.48 | Wobin | and so, they wouldn't be able to judge effectively if their first statement heard was sarcasm |
| 00:18.56 | Wobin | unless it was laid on ridiculously thick |
| 00:19.28 | Lopeppeppy | another smart person can make a judgement just fine. |
| 00:19.47 | Lopeppeppy | Sarcasm often comes across as mean-spirited, why bother to get to know them better? |
| 00:20.01 | Wobin | nope =) a smart person is more likely to judge a complete stranger as being -less- smart as they are |
| 00:20.21 | Lopeppeppy | All people are pretty dumb, overall. |
| 00:20.26 | Wobin | see? You're smart! |
| 00:20.39 | Lopeppeppy | OMG. |
| 00:20.45 | Lopeppeppy | Don't tell my cats |
| 00:20.49 | Wobin | and the more I look at the word smart, the weirder it looks |
| 00:21.43 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy, don't worry, they think they're smarter than you naturally =) |
| 00:22.28 | Lopeppeppy | they are, pretty naturally |
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| 04:15.57 | Sixen | ~ping duman |
| 04:15.58 | purl | pong duman |
| 04:26.12 | Shirik | *(const unsigned int*)(*(&normalString->labviewString)) |
| 04:26.18 | Shirik | error: Managed EE does not understand syntax |
| 04:26.21 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:29.33 | NightHawkTheSane | boggles |
| 04:32.25 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:32.29 | Shirik | my unit tests are equally pissed off |
| 04:32.43 | Shirik | 1> Expected 2 addresses in array, got 863204211 |
| 04:32.52 | Shirik | hm |
| 04:32.55 | Shirik | that number looks familiar |
| 04:33.01 | Shirik | lua> 0xCCCCCCCC |
| 04:33.02 | lua_bot | Shirik: 3435973836 |
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| 04:51.51 | cog|away | Shirik: http://blog.cogwheel.info/2009/10/from-frivolity-functionality-follows.html |
| 04:52.09 | Shirik | rofl |
| 04:53.35 | NightHawkTheSane | cogwheel: You should probably be committed for taht. |
| 04:53.38 | Shirik | that's awesome cogwheel |
| 04:54.54 | cogwheel | NightHawkTheSane: probably |
| 04:58.06 | cogwheel | at least i wasn't the first :P http://www.codeproject.com/KB/cpp/customoperators.aspx |
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| 05:09.16 | Shirik | woot |
| 05:09.18 | Shirik | build successful |
| 05:09.20 | Shirik | that means I can go home |
| 05:09.30 | NightHawkTheSane | jesus, your still at school? |
| 05:09.57 | NightHawkTheSane | dude, go home. :P |
| 05:10.04 | Shirik | need to get work done :P |
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| 05:35.11 | Wobin | cogwheel, I'd've pronounced it like the freudian concept |
| 05:35.54 | Wobin | Id-Opp =) |
| 05:45.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: ... "I'd've" wow.. that makes my eyes bleed :p |
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| 05:47.47 | Wobin | It's a perfectly valid contraction =P |
| 05:48.12 | cogwheel | I write I'd've all the time :P |
| 05:50.09 | NightHawkTheSane | doesn't make it less strange to read. :P |
| 05:53.57 | A-KO | anyone here ever do client authentication with ssl? IE works fine, Firefox is not. Chrome works, Firefox is not. FF won't even tell me why it won't import this pkcs 12 file |
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| 06:46.24 | Fisker | butts |
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| 08:36.00 | cog|away | blinks |
| 08:36.56 | cog|away | !g init_allegro |
| 08:36.57 | batbot | cog|away: Review my game project OR (How to peer-review my project ... <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/246905/review-my-game-project-or-how-to-peer-review-my-project> |
| 08:38.46 | cog|away | could someone google init_allegro and tell me if the first result is cogwheel.info? i can't tell if it's google recognizing me or not. (and by "first result" i mean after the two results it suggests for "init allegro") |
| 08:39.59 | cog|away | and if it is... that's ...... odd... |
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| 08:51.04 | Arrowmaster | cog|away: it is |
| 08:56.34 | cog|away | that's disturbing... |
| 08:57.21 | cog|away | it's just a random file i uploaded one time to show someone how much my coding has improved since I was a teenager... |
| 08:57.40 | cog|away | and it has a higher ranking than the site for the library I was using at the time |
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| 09:04.14 | cog|away | I blame WoW |
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| 10:15.20 | industrial | Anyone here play Aion? are there IRC channels? |
| 10:17.12 | Zyn | there are |
| 10:17.27 | Zyn | residing on Quakenet |
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| 10:30.28 | Bruners | quakenet is meh |
| 10:43.14 | Jerub | it's just an irc network. |
| 10:43.44 | Jerub | the quakenet #wow is mostly people who play on EU servers, curiously enough |
| 10:45.28 | Arrowmaster | quakenet tended to be mostly EU people i thought |
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| 11:14.41 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:14.41 | Adys | [13:44:45] <Jerub> it's just an irc network. |
| 11:14.45 | Adys | a retardedly shit irc network |
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| 11:28.04 | Zyn | like any other network is any different... |
| 11:29.32 | Adys | Zyn, yes |
| 11:29.49 | Adys | Freenode is the highest quality network Ive ever been on |
| 11:42.35 | Jerub | Adys: do you say that becuase of the people? or the infrastructure? |
| 11:42.53 | Jerub | i'm on so many differnet irc networks and i never see a difference in the quality of the infrastructure |
| 11:43.29 | nevcairiel | its not always about infrastructure |
| 11:43.33 | nevcairiel | its about people that are on there :P |
| 11:43.53 | nevcairiel | also, quakenet used to be really splitty, but thats gotten better over the past years |
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| 12:07.16 | jnwhiteh | where is batrick!!! |
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| 12:09.51 | olafski | jerub: most people on quakenet are EU people, there are US gaming networks too I assume |
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| 12:17.14 | kesor | does anyone knows a mod that has a map like carbonite, and nothing else? |
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| 12:38.23 | mikma | pooprick |
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| 12:41.38 | olafski | isn't that map cartographer? |
| 12:42.13 | Hjalte | kesor: As olafski says, Cartographer 3 might be what you are looking for. |
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| 12:47.39 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:47.48 | Wobin | I totally forsee a tauren pally called RetBull |
| 12:50.06 | nevcairiel | totall reportable :P |
| 12:50.09 | nevcairiel | +y |
| 12:53.43 | Sesshu| | omg! germans are the only ones on ptrs who speak their own language! i hate that |
| 12:55.39 | Adys | no they arent, neither should you hate it |
| 12:56.11 | amro | see I wish I couldn't understand trade chat on my realm |
| 12:59.05 | nevcairiel | Sesshu|: you probably ended up on the traditional german realm :P |
| 12:59.14 | nevcairiel | there are others where everyone speaks french |
| 12:59.36 | Sesshu| | realy? |
| 12:59.59 | Sesshu| | played now on 3 different realms |
| 13:00.10 | Sesshu| | always the same |
| 13:08.20 | mikma | BONJOUR! |
| 13:08.31 | mikma | le petit asshole |
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| 14:35.53 | zenzelezz | ... 'Option "DontZap" "True"' it is then... |
| 14:37.37 | Wobin | DontZapMeBro? |
| 14:39.28 | zenzelezz | close |
| 14:39.43 | zenzelezz | I keep hitting Ctrl+Alt+Backspace occasionally when I want to hit Ctrl+Alt+Insert |
| 14:41.15 | Adys | zenzelezz: theres a way to change the shortcut |
| 14:41.29 | Adys | i think in karmic its default ctrl printscreen k |
| 14:41.36 | Adys | er |
| 14:41.40 | Adys | altgr printscreen k |
| 14:41.47 | zenzelezz | Adys: one day I'll look into it, but if I get to a point where I need to use the combo, I've usually messed up bad anyway |
| 14:43.17 | Stanzilla | so, where is the new 5man entrance on the ptr? |
| 14:43.47 | Adys | Stanzilla: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/october/icecrown5man.jpg |
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| 14:44.29 | Wobin | There's certainly no shortage of available areas in icecrown for it |
| 14:44.33 | Stanzilla | okay thanks. I was even there, it just has no instance portals |
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| 17:00.02 | zenzelezz | interesting, splitting a 324 byte HTTP response into five irregularly sized chunks |
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| 17:27.05 | cog|sleep | morning |
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| 17:30.53 | NightHawkTheSane | mourning... |
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| 17:32.54 | Thunder_Child | failing |
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| 17:40.34 | Shirik | it's 1:40 |
| 17:40.55 | Thunder_Child | there.... |
| 17:41.07 | Shirik | everywhere |
| 17:41.23 | Thunder_Child | twice a day yes, but not at the same time |
| 17:44.16 | Gnarfoz | curious, it's never 1:40 twice on the same day for me :< |
| 17:44.51 | Shirik | obviously your clock is broken |
| 17:44.57 | Thunder_Child | military time notwithstanding |
| 17:45.04 | Shirik | nope, it's just broken |
| 17:48.13 | Gnarfoz | militarywhat |
| 17:48.34 | Shirik | military YOUR FACE |
| 17:48.35 | Gnarfoz | (yeah yeah I know there's people out there calling it that :P) |
| 17:48.47 | nevcairiel | am/pm is only for silly US folks |
| 17:48.55 | olafski | I call it "normal time" :P |
| 17:48.56 | Shirik | I like xm |
| 17:49.01 | nevcairiel | we can count to 24, and don't stop school at 12 |
| 17:49.11 | Shirik | Do you also have clocks that go to 24?' |
| 17:49.13 | Shirik | Analog clocks |
| 17:49.16 | Gnarfoz | they exist |
| 17:49.25 | Shirik | Do you have sun dials that go to 24? |
| 17:49.32 | Gnarfoz | no, why would we use sun dials |
| 17:49.36 | olafski | do you use a sun dial? :P |
| 17:49.38 | Shirik | because they're cool |
| 17:49.42 | Gnarfoz | fuck sundials! |
| 17:49.58 | Shirik | our time system works with any clock |
| 17:50.09 | nevcairiel | so does ours |
| 17:50.09 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: it's weird, they're the ones who changed continents and 'severed ties' so to speak, yet, they're stuck with 'ante meridiem' and 'post meridiem' latin bullshit 12-hour time ^^ |
| 17:50.18 | Shirik | your time system is not backwards compatible |
| 17:50.32 | Gnarfoz | backwards compatibility is not all that |
| 17:50.33 | olafski | not backwards compatible implies that it's an upgrade |
| 17:50.38 | nevcairiel | we're smart enough to skip the compat layer and convert times in our heads! |
| 17:50.41 | Dagmar | pThat's good because time isn't generally backwards compatible either. |
| 17:50.50 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: lol |
| 17:51.12 | olafski | am/pm wouldn't be so bad if they didn't start counting at 12 and then go to 1 |
| 17:51.45 | olafski | compatible or not that's just confusing :< |
| 17:52.22 | nevcairiel | 0:15 doesn't exist at all in their weird time system, does it? |
| 17:52.32 | Shirik | nope |
| 17:52.34 | Shirik | that means 15 minutes |
| 17:52.42 | Shirik | or 15 seconds |
| 17:52.44 | olafski | indeed that's 12:15 am I think |
| 17:52.45 | Shirik | in any case it's a dt |
| 17:53.03 | nevcairiel | i thought thats still 12:15 pm |
| 17:53.08 | Shirik | no |
| 17:53.09 | nevcairiel | or wait |
| 17:53.09 | Shirik | 12:15 am |
| 17:53.13 | nevcairiel | thats what was so weird |
| 17:53.27 | nevcairiel | 11pm, 12am .. why switch there, why don't switch when you go to 1 |
| 17:53.34 | nevcairiel | its a clean break |
| 17:53.38 | olafski | or call it 0:15 am |
| 17:53.43 | Shirik | it would make more sense for 12 to be 0 than it would be to switch at 1 |
| 17:54.27 | Shirik | 1 AM is at 5pi/6 |
| 17:54.47 | nevcairiel | we all know where 1 is on the clock |
| 17:54.50 | Shirik | so |
| 17:54.56 | Shirik | why would you put the switch there |
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| 17:55.12 | nevcairiel | because 12->1 is a break in the order of things! |
| 17:55.31 | Shirik | and actually, that was bad |
| 17:55.31 | Shirik | needs to review signals |
| 17:55.31 | Tepel | We should just use a 64-bit int and use epoch as a point of origin |
| 17:55.31 | Shirik | it's at pi/3 |
| 17:55.34 | Tepel | Now that's backwards compatible! |
| 17:55.44 | nevcairiel | Tepel: well, which epoch? :P |
| 17:55.49 | Tepel | Conversion is a bitch though |
| 17:55.52 | Shirik | my birthday |
| 17:55.55 | Shirik | should be epoch |
| 17:56.07 | Shirik | because when I was born, the world changed forever |
| 17:56.40 | cogwheel | wow! same here! |
| 17:57.35 | nevcairiel | with 64-bit int we could just stay with our current "0" in time .. just convert the stuff .. no need to use a custom epoch :p |
| 17:57.46 | Tepel | I'm of the opinion that everything in this world revolves around me and that, without me, it wouldn't exist |
| 17:58.08 | Gnarfoz | you certainly wouldn't be able to tell |
| 17:58.33 | olafski | agreed nevcairiel |
| 17:58.36 | olafski | none of that random 1970 stuff |
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| 17:59.33 | olafski | though I still think it's strange that most of the world uses christianity's "epoch" even though we're supposed to be free to choose our religion :P |
| 18:00.46 | Tepel | Hey, a religion that sees a miracle in a grilled cheese sandwich has my vote! |
| 18:00.51 | Shirik | They don't olafski! |
| 18:00.53 | Shirik | Haven't you heard? |
| 18:00.58 | Shirik | We're on ACE and BCE now |
| 18:01.04 | Shirik | lols |
| 18:01.19 | cogwheel | CE & BCE |
| 18:02.13 | Shirik | sorry |
| 18:02.15 | Shirik | CE |
| 18:02.16 | nevcairiel | just because we don't say AD and BC anymore, it changed much? |
| 18:02.23 | Shirik | yup! |
| 18:02.27 | olafski | what's CE/BCE :< |
| 18:02.35 | Shirik | It's totally not offensive |
| 18:02.36 | Dewin | common era & before? |
| 18:02.37 | cogwheel | common era |
| 18:02.38 | nevcairiel | BCE vs BC, yay for an extra E |
| 18:02.46 | olafski | hm |
| 18:02.57 | olafski | we still took it from christianity :P |
| 18:03.05 | Shirik | It's a laughable alternative to AD/BC created by people whom were qqing about religion |
| 18:03.19 | Dagmar | So what, they stole all our holidays |
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| 18:06.31 | foxlit | Meh, clearly the year that came before 1 should be called 0, and the one before that -1. |
| 18:06.42 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 18:06.52 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 18:07.06 | nevcairiel | thats what we do really, we just replace - by BCE .. :P |
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| 18:07.46 | Shirik | so how do we define what is year 0? |
| 18:07.57 | foxlit | Though I suppose that makes ranges in negative years awkward |
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| 18:08.45 | cogwheel | we shouldn't even be using years/days in the first place... |
| 18:08.52 | cogwheel | they keep changing :P |
| 18:08.59 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 18:09.59 | foxlit | Shirik: that's a question regardless of the suffix :) |
| 18:10.08 | Shirik | totally agree |
| 18:10.11 | Shirik | but I think that's the root cause |
| 18:10.28 | Shirik | lol @ negative ranges |
| 18:10.32 | Shirik | -500 - -300 |
| 18:10.37 | Shirik | or -500--300 |
| 18:10.47 | Shirik | I wonder how C++ treats that |
| 18:10.56 | Shirik | -a---b |
| 18:11.00 | Shirik | is that valid code? o.O |
| 18:11.04 | Dagmar | If you say we should be using swatch beats I'll find you and kill you |
| 18:11.13 | olafski | lua> -5---3 |
| 18:11.13 | lua_bot | olafski: -5 |
| 18:11.21 | ScytheBlade1 | comment |
| 18:11.23 | Shirik | in Lua it's a comment P |
| 18:11.24 | cogwheel | negative a minus (pre-increment b) |
| 18:11.25 | foxlit | Shirik: no, it's ambiguous. |
| 18:11.26 | Shirik | I was saying C++ |
| 18:11.44 | foxlit | (but perhaps operator precedence eats it) |
| 18:11.50 | Shirik | well pre-increment does in fact have precedence over post-increment |
| 18:11.59 | Shirik | but does operator precedence really define semantic precedence? |
| 18:12.10 | Dagmar | Can you predecrement a constant? |
| 18:12.14 | Shirik | no |
| 18:12.23 | Shirik | but that's why I said b |
| 18:12.29 | Shirik | however, it is a valid point to say I can't post-increment -a |
| 18:12.33 | Shirik | er |
| 18:12.35 | Shirik | post-decrement |
| 18:13.28 | foxlit | -(a--) - b |
| 18:14.31 | Shirik | int a = 100, b = 200;std::cout << (-a---b) << std::endl; |
| 18:14.33 | Shirik | Yields -300 |
| 18:14.46 | Shirik | in Visual Studio at least |
| 18:15.07 | Shirik | I'm still trying to figure out why |
| 18:15.13 | Shirik | -a - (- (-b)) ? |
| 18:15.22 | Shirik | no |
| 18:15.22 | foxlit | output a, b |
| 18:15.28 | Shirik | because std::cout << a is -99 |
| 18:15.30 | Shirik | er |
| 18:15.30 | Shirik | 99 |
| 18:15.33 | A-KO | hey Shirik you were tlaking about ssl client auth yesterday, any idea why firefox isn't playing nice with a pkcs file? yet IE/Chrome (Windows Cert store) work fine? |
| 18:15.34 | Shirik | b is 200 |
| 18:15.44 | foxlit | So it's foxlit: -(a--) - b |
| 18:15.58 | Shirik | hm that looks right, yes |
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| 18:17.00 | ScytheBlade1 | A-KO: you need to import it first |
| 18:19.32 | A-KO | ScytheBlade1: I tried, FF doesn't like it :P |
| 18:19.38 | A-KO | just fails to unknown error |
| 18:19.55 | foxlit | Hm, (4) Set: Casting PW:S grants you 250 spell power for 5 sec. |
| 18:20.10 | ScytheBlade1 | you're importing it into FF proper, not the windows cert store, correct? |
| 18:20.14 | A-KO | yep |
| 18:20.30 | A-KO | the same exact cert file imports fine into the windows cert store and even functions for the purpose it's intended |
| 18:20.33 | A-KO | it's just FF not playing nice :P |
| 18:20.37 | ScytheBlade1 | might be in a pkcs format that FF can't read |
| 18:20.41 | ScytheBlade1 | (ie, 7, instead of 12) |
| 18:20.45 | A-KO | pkcs 12 |
| 18:20.48 | A-KO | I built it with openssl |
| 18:20.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Then you did something wrong ;) |
| 18:21.08 | A-KO | yes, I'm aware of that, but I'm trying to find out what I need to right in order ot make it correct :P |
| 18:21.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I've used openssl to create a pkcs12 wrapper that imports fine into FF multiple times |
| 18:21.12 | A-KO | Windows cert store takes it fine |
| 18:21.30 | A-KO | and even uses it fine |
| 18:22.07 | ScytheBlade1 | did you include (1) the private key/cert in question (2) the certs needed for a *complete* chain of trust and (3) give it a common name? |
| 18:22.21 | Dagmar | Windows cert store is retarded |
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| 18:22.40 | Shirik | cogwheel / foxlit: The guys in ##c++ call it the "maximum munch" rule |
| 18:22.58 | Shirik | The tokenizer must take as large of a token as possible |
| 18:23.03 | Shirik | so it considers a-- over a- ... |
| 18:23.29 | Dagmar | A-KO: Have you considered just using CACert? |
| 18:23.32 | A-KO | ScytheBlade1: hmm, I tried using openssl to give it a complete chain of trust |
| 18:24.03 | A-KO | Dagmar: for this purpose i can't just yet, because it's for a friend of mine, and you have to get verified to sign other certs with yours :P |
| 18:24.28 | Dagmar | A-KO: Yeah but you can gin up your own |
| 18:24.33 | Dagmar | ...and then import THEIR root cert |
| 18:25.02 | Dagmar | We've kinda got people all over campus doing that since it cuts down on the number of times anyone has to dork with something as iffy as adding a new cert |
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| 18:45.02 | A-KO | ahhhh ScytheBlade1 that was it |
| 18:45.13 | A-KO | I needed to include the CA certificate into the p12 file, weird, I tried that last night and it didn't work |
| 18:45.17 | A-KO | admittedly I was dead tired |
| 18:45.23 | ScytheBlade1 | nods |
| 18:45.53 | A-KO | though honestly |
| 18:45.58 | A-KO | Firefox should use the windows cert store |
| 18:46.12 | A-KO | and this is probably why IE imported it fine, since I already had that CA in my Windows store |
| 18:46.21 | ScytheBlade1 | The moz SSL stuff has been around since before that even existed |
| 18:46.34 | ScytheBlade1 | By just under a decade, I believe |
| 18:47.02 | A-KO | It just sucks having to maintain multiple locations for this stuff, particularly since double clicking the file in Windows will import it directly to the Windows cert store. |
| 18:47.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Feel free to patch it yourself :) |
| 18:48.04 | A-KO | hmm, if I link someone directly to the p12 file via URL with FF will it prompt for import similar to what it does with a .crt file? |
| 18:48.24 | ScytheBlade1 | As long as the Content-Type header is sent correctly, I believe it will |
| 18:48.25 | Shirik | :/ |
| 18:48.27 | Shirik | I took this quiz |
| 18:48.39 | Shirik | and it tells you what class is best match for your personality |
| 18:48.58 | Shirik | I'm not sure what is worse: That it picked out my class correctly even when I was trying to avoid it, or the fact that basically it said "you're screwed" |
| 18:49.13 | A-KO | lol |
| 18:49.16 | A-KO | is this an online thing? |
| 18:49.25 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:49.30 | Shirik | http://quiz.wegame.com/wow_class_quiz/?ref=forum |
| 18:49.44 | A-KO | you know ScytheBlade1 the worst part about this is I asked in multiple FF channels since last night and nobody could answer :/ go figure |
| 18:50.03 | ScytheBlade1 | People are stupid :) |
| 18:50.45 | A-KO | Shirik: it chose priest for me :P |
| 18:50.46 | A-KO | I play a druid |
| 18:50.48 | A-KO | close enough |
| 18:50.50 | Shirik | same |
| 18:51.14 | Shirik | I even picked "I love animals"! |
| 18:51.19 | Shirik | Shouldn't that be druid or hunter? |
| 18:51.20 | A-KO | haha same |
| 18:51.27 | A-KO | shadowfiend? |
| 18:51.34 | Lopeppeppy_ | says I'm a shaman |
| 18:52.22 | ScytheBlade1 | paladin wtf |
| 18:52.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I AM NOT A PALADIN |
| 18:52.31 | Lopeppeppy_ | I am. swap with me |
| 18:52.46 | ScytheBlade1 | no, I need mage or druid |
| 18:54.30 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> |
| 18:54.41 | NightHawkTheSane | it tells me i'm a priest. |
| 18:54.45 | NightHawkTheSane | that's close enough to resto shaman, i guess. |
| 18:55.22 | zenzelezz | that quiz just called me a pally :( |
| 18:55.47 | ScytheBlade1 | My thoughts exactly |
| 18:56.58 | Shirik | haha |
| 18:57.00 | Shirik | you all suck :P |
| 18:57.27 | zenzelezz | wonder what you have to answer to get "warrior" |
| 18:57.38 | Shirik | "I hate everyone and charge into battle blindly" |
| 18:57.38 | Lopeppeppy_ | nuh uh. I'm watching movies iwth my rosiekins, I'm awesome |
| 18:57.42 | Shirik | ok Lopeppeppy_ |
| 18:57.44 | Shirik | you're awesome |
| 18:57.45 | NightHawkTheSane | course, any test like that with what.. 6 questions? is basically flawed |
| 18:57.51 | Shirik | well sure NightHawkTheSane :P |
| 18:58.04 | Dagmar | You guys know it would be simpler to just find an 8-year old and ask them to make a paper fortune teller with WoW class names in it |
| 18:58.18 | Lopeppeppy_ | do you love me, yes or no, check the box |
| 18:58.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: and probably more interesting and/or accurate |
| 18:58.37 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: yes, but you can't make a hyperlink to an 8-year-old on your blog |
| 18:58.49 | NightHawkTheSane | .. you can, but its illegal in most states. |
| 18:58.50 | Dagmar | Well, you *can* |
| 18:58.55 | Lopeppeppy_ | *laugh* |
| 18:58.56 | Dagmar | It just angers the authorities. |
| 18:58.57 | Dagmar | lol |
| 18:58.59 | Lopeppeppy_ | juice boxes |
| 18:59.07 | Dagmar | Man we're awful people |
| 18:59.12 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. :) |
| 18:59.46 | Lopeppeppy_ | my excuse is that I'm watching Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus! |
| 19:00.01 | Shirik | uh |
| 19:00.05 | Shirik | that sounds like some kind of hentai |
| 19:00.08 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy_: is that hentai? |
| 19:00.11 | Shirik | lol. |
| 19:00.21 | Lopeppeppy_ | No. Extremely cheesy sy fy channel movie. |
| 19:00.29 | Shirik | high fives zenzelezz |
| 19:00.37 | zenzelezz | most hentai is extremely cheesy |
| 19:00.45 | zenzelezz | talking penises and whatnot |
| 19:00.48 | Lopeppeppy_ | Yeah, it does make me giggle |
| 19:01.07 | zenzelezz | makes a note of that |
| 19:01.11 | Lopeppeppy_ | so does this. Hilarious. |
| 19:03.12 | Lopeppeppy_ | "If we don't find a viable way of stopping this fucker, Sharkzilla is going to own the sea. You own the sea, you own the world." < - excellent dialog! |
| 19:03.39 | zenzelezz | you can't argue that logic |
| 19:03.58 | NightHawkTheSane | it is rather infallible |
| 19:04.24 | Lopeppeppy_ | "A giant octopus, that's crazy!" "We've been discussing means of containment." "You mean destruction." "No, we mean containment! This is a scientific breakthrough, you can't just kill them!" |
| 19:04.53 | zenzelezz | that last bit sounds like Aliens |
| 19:05.11 | Lopeppeppy_ | "How do you propose we get them to their 'ideal containment areas', send them an e-vite?" |
| 19:05.17 | Shirik | (15:00:45) (zenzelezz) talking penises and whatnot |
| 19:05.17 | Shirik | (15:00:47) (Lopeppeppy_) Yeah, it does make me giggle |
| 19:05.20 | Shirik | ... what? |
| 19:05.27 | Shirik | I go away for 2 minutes |
| 19:05.31 | Lopeppeppy_ | Hentai is hilarious, it makes me giggle. |
| 19:06.15 | zenzelezz | ... so peppy, want to come watch a movie? ;-o |
| 19:06.30 | Lopeppeppy_ | I'm already dating my kitty Rosiekins, but thank you zenzelezz. |
| 19:06.33 | zenzelezz | :( |
| 19:06.49 | Lopeppeppy_ | She's been in a kennel for 3 months straight, she deserves the cuddles and stretches! |
| 19:07.03 | zenzelezz | bring her, she can spend some time with my cat |
| 19:07.19 | Lopeppeppy_ | Not while she still has stitches, or I'd be introducing her to Kendra today. |
| 19:08.52 | zenzelezz | you're just making up excuses! |
| 19:09.00 | Shirik | zenzelezz shot down |
| 19:09.13 | Lopeppeppy_ | Then let's gor for the obvious, ahem, time zones and oceans? *poke* |
| 19:09.40 | zenzelezz | that's not stopped me so far |
| 19:09.53 | Shirik | disengages from this conversation |
| 19:10.16 | Lopeppeppy_ | *laugh* |
| 19:10.25 | A-KO | fucking macs |
| 19:10.27 | A-KO | just an FYI |
| 19:10.28 | zenzelezz | Facebook gave me another peculiar captcha today: http://zenzelezz.net/images/random/captcha2.jpg |
| 19:11.00 | Arrowmaster | isnt that just recaptcha |
| 19:11.10 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 19:11.23 | zenzelezz | the point is just the amusing phrases it gives |
| 19:11.59 | Shirik | I wonder if they're paying recaptcha for that |
| 19:12.45 | zenzelezz | I remember WoWI's captcha told me to "fund France" |
| 19:15.03 | NightHawkTheSane | did you listen to it? |
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| 19:22.51 | Lopeppeppy_ | Sharkzilla just bit the Golden Gate Bridge. Gods I love this shark |
| 19:23.40 | Shirik | wow |
| 19:23.42 | Shirik | jira 4.0 is really nice |
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| 19:28.22 | Thunder_Child | your not watching that vs movie are you Lopeppeppy_? |
| 19:28.31 | Lopeppeppy_ | sure I am, TC! It's a hoot. |
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| 19:36.54 | Thunder_Child | >.< |
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| 19:42.16 | foxlit | zenzelezz: But what about that obvious apostrophe? |
| 19:45.32 | tekkub | there used to be some lil siloettes with a plus icons in the LFG UI... are they gone? |
| 19:45.38 | tekkub | or can I just not find them? |
| 19:46.16 | foxlit | Look at Icons, imo. |
| 19:46.32 | tekkub | yea I kinda did :P |
| 19:49.58 | foxlit | INV_Misc_GroupNeedMore |
| 19:54.25 | Shirik | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/os_cars.jpg |
| 19:54.36 | Shirik | mikma! I linked a kuvaton picture before you! |
| 19:54.38 | Shirik | Unacceptable |
| 19:56.09 | Thunder_Child | it kind of missed a few flavors |
| 19:57.11 | mikma | shirik: i found that pic.. lame :D |
| 19:58.58 | foxlit | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.wow.com/media/2009/10/deadtyrannus.jpg << who-could-it-possibly-be? |
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| 20:08.43 | Shirik | mikma: Is http://kuvaton.com/bshit/yo_dawg_yo_yo.jpg more like you? |
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| 20:29.18 | olafski | hahahahahaha |
| 20:29.19 | olafski | saving that one |
| 20:30.03 | olafski | wow wasn't there a lower res version of that foxlit :( |
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| 20:45.43 | jnwhiteh | ~seen batrick |
| 20:45.44 | purl | batrick is currently on #wowuidev (1d 17h 23m 5s), last said: 'jnwhiteh: ping'. |
| 20:45.50 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 20:46.01 | jnwhiteh | batrick: WHY ARE WE IN THE SAME CITY AND WE KEEP MISSING EACH OTHER!! |
| 20:46.07 | Thunder_Child | ~fail jnwhiteh |
| 20:46.07 | purl | jnwhiteh: FAIL! |
| 20:46.07 | jnwhiteh | cause i want dinner!! |
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| 20:46.20 | NightHawkTheSane | he's totally avoiding you :P |
| 20:46.35 | jnwhiteh | mebbe he has his phone on |
| 20:47.03 | jnwhiteh | even if he is, i dont have the number |
| 20:47.05 | jnwhiteh | ponders. |
| 20:48.24 | jnwhiteh | well its dark |
| 20:48.31 | jnwhiteh | not sure im' going to walk along the beach by myself |
| 20:48.33 | jnwhiteh | >< |
| 20:51.01 | jnwhiteh | plays a game of HoN while waiting |
| 20:53.27 | foxlit | https://kattis.csc.kth.se/problem?id=orc |
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| 20:56.31 | tlund | can someone recommend an addon that links the loot the boss dropped when you open the loot window? preferably it should be smart and only do this if you are leader/promoted and detect if someone has already linked it... |
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| 21:03.42 | smcn | if you're willing to forgo automation, xloot can do it |
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| 21:31.34 | Esamynn | waves |
| 21:31.55 | jnwhiteh | i am really hungry now. |
| 21:33.15 | Gnarfoz | I heard food helps against that |
| 21:33.27 | Esamynn | Gnarfoz: lies, lies and deceit! |
| 21:33.39 | Gnarfoz | in reality, food kills |
| 21:34.24 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe, but its a great way to go |
| 21:35.40 | Shirik | everyone whom has gotten cancer has eaten food |
| 21:35.49 | Shirik | thus, food must cause cancer |
| 21:36.06 | Esamynn | Shirik: everyone who has gotten cancer has lived, therefore living causes cancer |
| 21:36.27 | Shirik | hm, good point |
| 21:36.31 | NightHawkTheSane | living causes death *nod* |
| 21:50.27 | Tepel | The most deadly STD is life |
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| 22:03.01 | Esamynn | Tepel: nice |
| 22:12.44 | Tepel | Oeh, microsoft made an error |
| 22:13.04 | Tepel | http://developers.slashdot.org/story/09/10/04/1956225/Side-By-Side-Assemblies-Bring-DLL-Hell-20 |
| 22:13.22 | ScytheBlade1 | that is so amazingly old |
| 22:13.30 | ScytheBlade1 | (the "problem" not the post) |
| 22:16.57 | Tepel | The problem indeed isn't new |
| 22:17.01 | Tepel | But this incarnation is |
| 22:17.16 | Shirik | it's not really |
| 22:17.34 | Shirik | as one of the comments in that article says, SxS is a mess, but it's a mess because we made it a mess |
| 22:17.52 | Dagmar | lol |
| 22:17.59 | Tepel | Really? |
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| 22:18.08 | Tepel | And why am I pressing "c" and expecting to see a character sheet |
| 22:18.41 | Dagmar | Masochism like that I suspect has MUCH to do with why you'll seldom find mercy from devs of gcc for c++ breakage for similiar reasons. |
| 22:18.55 | Dagmar | They know the alternative to saying "PATCH YOUR FREAKING ANCIENT CODE" is that. |
| 22:19.31 | Tepel | Meh, I wouldn't mind if they broke al lot of stuff if they'd get a solid base to work from |
| 22:19.40 | Tepel | s/ al / a / |
| 22:19.56 | Dagmar | They could also stand to learn how to more tightly ind libraries. |
| 22:20.04 | Dagmar | s/ind/bind/; |
| 22:20.28 | Dagmar | ...although that functionality might be officially deprecated for the linker by now |
| 22:20.53 | Dagmar | It's been over ten years since I saw anyone do it |
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| 22:21.49 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 22:22.40 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 22:22.45 | Shirik | you are still using zsirc |
| 22:22.46 | Fisker | i cant sleep |
| 22:22.47 | Shirik | that POS |
| 22:23.08 | Fisker | i hope youre proud of yourself |
| 22:23.14 | Shirik | I am |
| 22:23.16 | Fisker | :( |
| 22:24.24 | Fisker | then i hope you cant sleep either |
| 22:24.28 | Shirik | Dagmar: I'm not sure I agree |
| 22:24.40 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 hates redhat for example |
| 22:24.46 | Shirik | because of what gcc does there |
| 22:25.04 | Shirik | so they seem to be granting "mercy" :) |
| 22:25.21 | Fisker | slaps shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:27.17 | Dagmar | Shirik: Multiple versions of one shared lib can live on the same system just fine, IF they are very explicitly enumerated |
| 22:27.24 | Dagmar | ...AND if they're linked that way |
| 22:27.34 | Shirik | I really hate that though |
| 22:27.40 | Dagmar | If a lib just calls for libstdc++.so all bets are off |
| 22:27.45 | Shirik | You're basically forcing someone to use a given version |
| 22:27.50 | Shirik | "I only work with v2.0!" |
| 22:27.55 | Shirik | what about 2.1? |
| 22:27.56 | Shirik | 3.0? |
| 22:27.58 | Shirik | No? |
| 22:27.59 | Dagmar | Yes, because ABIs change. |
| 22:28.08 | Shirik | And they shouldn't |
| 22:28.09 | ScytheBlade1 | .. I actually really like RH |
| 22:28.15 | Fisker | abi? |
| 22:28.16 | Shirik | I thought you said you hated it ScytheBlade1 :P |
| 22:28.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm pretty sure that CentOS is more or less RHEL |
| 22:28.34 | Shirik | I'm sure I have a quote from you |
| 22:28.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm pretty sure that my laptop and my desktop run Fedora |
| 22:28.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Paste it then |
| 22:28.47 | Thunder_Child | RH good though i think i like FC better |
| 22:29.18 | Fisker | linux sucks though |
| 22:29.18 | Shirik | ~logs |
| 22:29.19 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 22:29.24 | Dagmar | Shirik: How well do you think things would work on a system that had any libc5 libraries around if they were _just_ linked to libc.so? |
| 22:29.30 | Thunder_Child | ~suck Fisker |
| 22:29.31 | purl | ACTION sucks Fisker's cheek |
| 22:29.42 | Thunder_Child | errr...not was i was looking for |
| 22:29.42 | Shirik | Dagmar: too bad |
| 22:29.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker: application binary interface |
| 22:29.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ~wtf ABI |
| 22:29.55 | ScytheBlade1 | stupid purl |
| 22:29.58 | ScytheBlade1 | back me up! |
| 22:30.04 | Shirik | You can still run applications that were written for Windows 95 |
| 22:30.06 | Thunder_Child | ~abi |
| 22:30.07 | purl | well, abi is Application Binary Interface |
| 22:30.07 | Shirik | I don't see the problem |
| 22:30.11 | Thunder_Child | i win |
| 22:30.15 | Dagmar | Shirik: You've got the option of making your library link just to libc.so and risk having it explode, or call for libc.so.6, which is what sensible people use when they expect libc 6 is what their code *needs* |
| 22:30.20 | Shirik | The problem is people are being lazy |
| 22:30.37 | Dagmar | ...and that as far as I can tell MS's libs aren't versioned for crap. |
| 22:30.39 | Shirik | Yes, perhaps they need libc6 |
| 22:30.50 | Shirik | But they should be asking for >= 6 |
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| 22:30.51 | Shirik | not == 6 |
| 22:30.53 | Fisker | og god abi meant something, /wrists |
| 22:30.56 | Dagmar | It seems like they've always counted on the filename being everything |
| 22:31.03 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1 ~ > ~wtf, because people can alter ~ but not ~wtf |
| 22:31.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I know |
| 22:31.23 | Thunder_Child | obviously not |
| 22:31.23 | ScytheBlade1 | But why purl lacks the ~wtf definition is beyond me |
| 22:31.23 | Shirik | In 10 years when I no longer have a 10 year old version of libc |
| 22:31.33 | Shirik | then I'm going to be screwed |
| 22:31.41 | Thunder_Child | they cant program everything in |
| 22:31.49 | Dagmar | You will have HOPEFULLY recompiled things against a more recent compiler which takes a firmer stance against ambiguous code |
| 22:32.16 | Dagmar | Otherwise time will have degradeed what would be considered the "cleanliness" of your code anyway |
| 22:33.16 | Thunder_Child | fiskers away msg is amusing |
| 22:33.24 | Thunder_Child | s/away/quit/ |
| 22:36.10 | Shirik | ok I can't find it ScytheBlade1 |
| 22:36.10 | Shirik | but |
| 22:36.12 | Shirik | I will |
| 22:36.23 | Shirik | you were complaining about some bug in GCC that is there because of backwards compatibility |
| 22:36.24 | NightHawkTheSane | good luck with that, Shirik :) |
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| 22:37.51 | ScytheBlade1 | what? |
| 22:37.57 | ScytheBlade1 | blinks |
| 22:38.08 | Shirik | yes |
| 22:38.09 | Shirik | you did |
| 22:38.10 | Shirik | I know it |
| 22:40.39 | ScytheBlade1 | *Maybe* but I can't even remember what you're talking about |
| 22:40.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I am skeptical |
| 22:41.21 | End | ScytheBlade1: remember, you hate redhat, too |
| 22:41.38 | ScytheBlade1 | evidently |
| 22:46.31 | Shirik | I swear you said it |
| 22:46.33 | Shirik | but anyway |
| 22:46.34 | Shirik | gotta go |
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| 23:06.19 | Shirik | Whoo |
| 23:06.23 | Shirik | so fun to walk into a server room and hear a clicky clicky |
| 23:06.27 | Shirik | maybe IT will finally replace this thing |
| 23:06.40 | A-KO | nice |
| 23:07.08 | Shirik | I can't even enter BIOS setup wtf |
| 23:07.22 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:07.26 | Shirik | Primary Hard Disk 0 Not Found |
| 23:07.30 | Shirik | I think it's dead :P |
| 23:07.40 | Tepel | Ahh, at least we have the backups |
| 23:08.33 | End | click of death! |
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| 23:14.02 | Tepel | I have yet to see a piece of hardware die on me |
| 23:14.11 | Tepel | Unless, ofcouse, it was intended |
| 23:15.13 | Tepel | Wait, not entirely correct, s/hardware/computer related hardware/ |
| 23:15.38 | Shirik | Most computer hardware shouldn't fail |
| 23:15.45 | Shirik | hard drives are unique |
| 23:16.00 | Shirik | they require such mechanical precision that it is a wonder they are even usable in things like laptops |
| 23:16.25 | Shirik | of course, it's that same precision that makes things like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1asNB0te0o work |
| 23:17.29 | End | holy crap |
| 23:19.00 | Shirik | I really want to make one of those |
| 23:19.04 | Shirik | I probably will eventually |
| 23:19.13 | Thunder_Child | thats hardly precision |
| 23:19.26 | Shirik | ?? |
| 23:20.06 | Thunder_Child | a small disk spinning very fast is not precision manufacturing |
| 23:20.22 | Thunder_Child | a complete HD more so than this clock |
| 23:20.25 | Shirik | well when you consider all of the other things going on |
| 23:21.01 | Shirik | the whole "zero contact", accurate seeking, etc. |
| 23:22.14 | Thunder_Child | yet, i bet you could design a better HD. the problem is i dont think you can do it in the default shape. |
| 23:22.38 | Shirik | Well I consider a "better HD" to be solid state |
| 23:22.44 | Thunder_Child | moving HD that is, the new ones are different |
| 23:23.07 | Shirik | I think the whole platter technology is way behind its time |
| 23:23.30 | Shirik | it was made a long time ago to fit data permanently when we did not have the technology to do it in another manner |
| 23:23.34 | Shirik | those times are long gone |
| 23:24.32 | Thunder_Child | agreed |
| 23:25.08 | Tepel | Stone Slabs |
| 23:25.53 | Tepel | didn't they reuse that idea with metals? |
| 23:26.07 | Tepel | Engraving data onto a metal plate |
| 23:27.27 | Thunder_Child | you are always "engraving" something on something. now it is simply electrons on metal |
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| 23:27.52 | Thunder_Child | or tat's on Lopeppeppy_ |
| 23:28.23 | Lopeppeppy_ | No, I'm too chicken for tattoos. |
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| 23:29.26 | Shirik | it's ok Lopeppeppy_, tattoos are bad for you |
| 23:29.26 | Thunder_Child | but how else are we going to store information? |
| 23:30.02 | Lopeppeppy_ | I'll stick to a thumb drive. |
| 23:31.31 | Tepel | http://www.rosettaproject.org/ |
| 23:31.59 | Lopeppeppy_ | I am not a rock! |
| 23:36.05 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy_ |
| 23:36.20 | Shirik | why are you all _y today? |
| 23:36.35 | Thunder_Child | to be different? |
| 23:37.33 | Lopeppeppy_ | I got smacked by a DNS thingie, my nick is reserved and I'm too lazy to care. I'm sure tomorrow will be different. |
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| 23:54.07 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:54.09 | Shirik | I like this post |
| 23:54.12 | Shirik | Will Valgrind work on Windows any time soon? There are actually two answers: (a) hell no, and (b) it already does (sort of). |
| 23:54.17 | Shirik | and Lopeppeppy_, you just have to do /ns ghost |
| 23:54.20 | Shirik | or /ns release |
| 23:55.25 | mikma | haste: http://kuvaton.com/browse/12910/drag_racer_tires.gif |
| 23:55.43 | mikma | too much torq |
