| 00:00.00 | Lopeppeppy | i think that floating combat texts used to be able toshow it, but I always disabled that |
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| 00:16.50 | Lopeppeppy | hi hi iriel |
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| 00:16.58 | Iriel | waves, i'm baaaaack |
| 00:18.41 | Lopeppeppy | nice to see you. where were you? |
| 00:18.54 | Iriel | Back in the UK on vacation |
| 00:19.13 | Lopeppeppy | Ooh, sounds very nice. I'm glad you traveled safely |
| 00:19.59 | Iriel | likewise, though at hour 20 something awake, tied and icky from 11+ hours in a plane |
| 00:20.07 | Lopeppeppy | ooofs. |
| 00:20.10 | Lopeppeppy | jet lag sucketh |
| 00:20.16 | Iriel | the cats seem to have decided we're forgiven enough that we can feed them again |
| 00:20.33 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, food is the first step of forgiveness. |
| 00:21.23 | Iriel | Indeed |
| 00:21.27 | Iriel | Food and belly rubs |
| 00:21.48 | Lopeppeppy | Wow. I don't get to give scritches until she's ignored me a few hours first. |
| 00:21.52 | Lopeppeppy | Your cats are generous. |
| 00:22.25 | Iriel | More like attention whores, but 'generous' sounds far more positive |
| 00:22.49 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 00:29.27 | WobWork | The only time I regret living where I am, is when I realise to get anywhere 'overseas' I have to spend at least 5 hours in a plane. |
| 00:29.41 | WobWork | (NZ doesn't count, it's practically the 'eastern state') |
| 00:30.05 | WobWork | and for the UK... 18-20 |
| 00:30.20 | Iriel | 18-20 hours would be miserable |
| 00:30.43 | Iriel | the west coast US -> UK flight is just about the limit of my in-a-plane-without-going-mad duration |
| 00:30.49 | Iriel | THough it did wonders for getting some books read |
| 00:31.03 | WobWork | I had a dream last night that I had to wake up in order to get to an airport in time for a plane trip |
| 00:31.14 | WobWork | but I can't recall where I was going |
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| 00:37.27 | NeoTron | Iriel: if I try to perform a "belly rub" on my cat, my hand is at danger of being lost |
| 00:38.00 | Iriel | That is sometimes the case with one of the cats, there's a certain skill in determining which mode she's operating in |
| 00:38.23 | Iriel | The other one however spends a great deal of time following people around and then flopping onto her back begging to be rubbed |
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| 00:48.10 | WobWork | Iriel: kinda like Vim |
| 00:48.34 | WobWork | If you're not in the right mode, you have to 'escape' really fast in order not to damage stuff =) |
| 00:48.42 | Iriel | Exactly like that |
| 00:49.15 | Iriel | (Awful as the metaphor is from a punnish standpoint) |
| 00:49.21 | WobWork | ^^ |
| 00:49.31 | WobWork | I'd like a cat |
| 00:49.46 | WobWork | but it'd be terrible to the poor thing to live in a small apartment |
| 00:50.10 | WobWork | also, the bylaws don't allow pets =( |
| 00:53.32 | nicoli_s | that sucks |
| 00:53.44 | nicoli_s | i have cats in a 2 bedroom apt but they dont mind much |
| 00:53.56 | nicoli_s | as long as they haev things to climb in and on, and a window, they are good |
| 00:55.06 | Shirik | huggles Iriel |
| 00:56.17 | nicoli_s | lol, that is so funny people discussing the same kind of kitty stuff me and my gf deal with all the time, she always refers to the time when you dont rub the belly as kitty play time |
| 00:58.07 | WobWork | nicoli_s: I'm in a very small studio apt, if it weren't for the computer, -I'd- be climbing the walls =) |
| 00:58.40 | nicoli_s | ahh |
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| 00:59.54 | WobWork | although... maybe if I can train a cat to do dailies... |
| 01:00.15 | nicoli_s | i bet you could, i saw people who trained cats to do gymnastics |
| 01:00.35 | nicoli_s | like being able to hange on stuff by their front legs only |
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| 01:01.12 | WobWork | With my luck, I'd never be able to get the kitty off my account =( |
| 01:01.38 | WobWork | Or I'd be at work, and s/he'd be raiding Alganon hard mode |
| 01:02.26 | Lopeppeppy | cats can be trained, very carefully |
| 01:03.05 | Lopeppeppy | I now have a dogge to train my cats. This will be... unfun. |
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| 01:22.45 | DWSR | Are the instance servers for *all* battlegroups down or just US-Bloodlust? |
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| 01:35.19 | WobWork | http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000s/2000/10/pocketful?currentPage=1 |
| 01:35.20 | WobWork | interesting |
| 01:35.47 | WobWork | I'd suggest that there wouldn't have been much change in the last decade to differ much |
| 01:42.34 | ScytheBlade1 | tekkub: is your blasted lands (49-50) guide up to date? It's having me collect 14 gizzards, but the quest wants.. two |
| 01:42.47 | NightHawkTheSane | aremt |
| 01:42.49 | Lopeppeppy | There's more than one quest eating gizzards, i thought |
| 01:42.54 | tekkub | probably not |
| 01:42.54 | NightHawkTheSane | aren't there a handful of quests.. er yeah ^^ |
| 01:43.18 | ScytheBlade1 | ah k |
| 01:43.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I see |
| 01:51.20 | tekkub | so anyone that's played halflife.. or hell anyone that hasn't |
| 01:51.36 | tekkub | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J80KD4BG7M |
| 01:51.39 | tekkub | great lil series |
| 01:54.13 | Codayus | Lopeppeppy: You know, there's someone on my server named Lopepperry. It confuses me every time I see their name. :( |
| 01:57.06 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 01:57.08 | Lopeppeppy | What server? |
| 01:58.25 | Codayus | Lightbringer US, Alliance |
| 01:59.12 | WobWork | you need a toon named Lopeppenny |
| 01:59.21 | Codayus | It's just so similar. And yet, not. |
| 01:59.23 | WobWork | just to muddy the waters a bit |
| 01:59.25 | Lopeppeppy | I may have reserved peppy on that server. i reserved her on a lot of them. |
| 01:59.36 | WobWork | where's it from originally? |
| 02:00.23 | ScytheBlade1 | The name generator |
| 02:00.45 | Lopeppeppy | yup |
| 02:01.12 | ScytheBlade1 | knows all sorts of random peppey facts! |
| 02:01.35 | WobWork | what's the flight velocity of an unladen peppy? |
| 02:01.41 | ScytheBlade1 | 180 m/s |
| 02:01.45 | Lopeppeppy | wouldn't you like to know |
| 02:01.52 | ScytheBlade1 | errr |
| 02:01.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I read that as puppy |
| 02:01.58 | Lopeppeppy | noooooo! |
| 02:02.00 | industrial | me too |
| 02:02.01 | industrial | lol |
| 02:02.02 | Lopeppeppy | puppies do not flies |
| 02:02.05 | ScytheBlade1 | not peppy, as you missed an 'e' |
| 02:02.06 | ScytheBlade1 | peppEy |
| 02:02.07 | WobWork | I'd've said 9.8 m/s/s |
| 02:02.16 | Codayus | Lopeppeppy: It really depends on the propulsion system. |
| 02:02.19 | WobWork | but that's the acceleration >< |
| 02:02.20 | Lopeppeppy | Nooo |
| 02:02.48 | Codayus | WobWork: Well, what'd the terminal velocity then? |
| 02:02.57 | WobWork | 0 m/s/s =( |
| 02:03.01 | Codayus | And would it vary if the puppy was short haired or long haired? |
| 02:03.06 | WobWork | when the puppy hits the ground |
| 02:03.11 | industrial | haha |
| 02:03.14 | WobWork | It's -terribly- terminal |
| 02:03.21 | industrial | .me cuddles Lopeppeppy |
| 02:03.24 | industrial | cuddles Lopeppeppy |
| 02:03.36 | Codayus | "Today, we will be teaching poodles to fly!" |
| 02:03.45 | Lopeppeppy | thanks, indie. Today is a Bad Day (tm) |
| 02:04.09 | industrial | ow :< Bad Day's arenlt the best. |
| 02:04.20 | Codayus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kFGxH4wrs4 |
| 02:04.21 | Lopeppeppy | nah. they do end though |
| 02:04.22 | WobWork | I was halfway to work before realising I didn't have my keycard or wallet |
| 02:04.24 | WobWork | >< |
| 02:04.26 | Lopeppeppy | oopst |
| 02:05.05 | A-KO | http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/3/26/updated-sharps-4k-lcd-features-native-10-bit-output2c-pricing-revealed.aspx < I want :( |
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| 02:27.30 | tem | okay, I'm extra tired so my description sucks |
| 02:27.32 | tem | someone help me |
| 02:27.33 | tem | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14759-Shako.html |
| 02:27.36 | Amarande | Hmm ... Before I set out for UBRS. |
| 02:27.59 | Amarande | Onyxia key quest chain - Gone entirely, or simply made unnecessary like the UBRS key chain and the BC raid attunement chains? |
| 02:28.08 | Lopeppeppy | 'per equip mgr set' |
| 02:28.11 | Amarande | And if gone entirely, at what point did they cut it off (since it begins with some non-obvious UBRS quests)? |
| 02:28.15 | Lopeppeppy | gone I think |
| 02:28.18 | Lopeppeppy | 'cause the npcs are gone |
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| 02:29.21 | Amarande | WTF, UBRS bosses look uber wimpy |
| 02:29.29 | Amarande | Only 80,925 health even for the Beast and Drakkisath? |
| 02:29.34 | Lopeppeppy | omg, no way |
| 02:29.35 | Amarande | That's not much more than Gandling had in Scholo |
| 02:30.01 | Amarande | yeah, they apparently only have from 32k-80k HP or so |
| 02:30.09 | Amarande | of course, this was in the way old classic days too though |
| 02:30.20 | Amarande | hell, even Ragnaros doesn't have much more HP than, say, Northrend heroic bosses |
| 02:30.38 | Amarande | or didn't seem to, anyway |
| 02:30.49 | Lopeppeppy | he's a baby |
| 02:31.10 | Amarande | say, will Molten Core still be in Cata, or is Ragnaros' moving to Hyjal going to end that instance somehow? |
| 02:31.22 | Lopeppeppy | dunno |
| 02:31.32 | Codayus | Amarande: Probably go away, although Bliz hasn't said AFAIK |
| 02:31.59 | Amarande | 'Course, we still have C'thun, Kael, and Illidan available to those who want to fight them |
| 02:32.06 | Amarande | even though they've been officially lore-dead for light knows how long now |
| 02:32.07 | WobWork | or a sign up at his location "Gone Fishing" |
| 02:32.12 | Codayus | It would be the first time they've removed a raid instance, and when Kael popped up in the Sunwell 5 man they didn't remove him from TK, so... |
| 02:32.41 | Codayus | The precedent - such as it is - is that MC will stay. But they're making a lot of major world changed for Cata, so who knows? |
| 02:32.41 | Amarande | There's also Anub'arak in both AN and the new raid |
| 02:32.46 | Codayus | That too. |
| 02:33.01 | Amarande | Not that I've ever encountered him, oddly enough :) |
| 02:33.08 | Arrowmaster | 40 man naxx and ony dont exist anymore though |
| 02:33.09 | Amarande | AN is one of the three original WotLK instances I've never actually gotten to go to |
| 02:33.19 | Amarande | Arrow: those were updated though, not stripped entirely from the game |
| 02:33.38 | Amarande | heck, lore-wise, Ony is same as always, she's only even really been changed in a gameplay way |
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| 02:33.46 | Lopeppeppy | yup |
| 02:33.51 | Amarande | she still even drops the iconic raid items from level 60 |
| 02:33.59 | Amarande | the item for the AQ40 chain and the scales |
| 02:34.04 | Codayus | *shrug* Well, they're not updating MC, so it will either go or end up as a serious anachronism in the new Cata world. |
| 02:34.07 | Lopeppeppy | she's ust an easter egg |
| 02:34.12 | Amarande | and apparently I will probably need an Onyxia Scale Cloak to really feel safe before I hit BWL. |
| 02:34.31 | Amarande | unless I get some super serious gear upgrades by then |
| 02:34.36 | Lopeppeppy | ooh, booga |
| 02:34.47 | Amarande | from what I'm reading, you need >20k HP for it to be safe to go without |
| 02:34.53 | Amarande | I've only got about 16k in current gear |
| 02:35.06 | Codayus | You can always just hide behind the throne. |
| 02:35.08 | Arrowmaster | do you still turn ony's head in in org/sw |
| 02:35.24 | Amarande | That bit I'm not sure about |
| 02:35.37 | Amarande | All I know is the scales still skin and the Chapter VI for The Only Prescription still drops |
| 02:35.45 | Arrowmaster | im wondering if leatherworkers can still learn how to make the ony scale cloak |
| 02:35.57 | Lopeppeppy | what's the prescription |
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| 02:36.26 | Codayus | Interesting, I assumed they'd remove the scales being available. |
| 02:36.54 | Arrowmaster | you had to turn ony's head in and the guy that gave the rewards would teach you to make the cloak |
| 02:37.16 | Lopeppeppy | oh, i wan't that profession |
| 02:37.49 | Amarande | Lopeppeppy: The Only Prescription is a quest during the AQ40 quest chain |
| 02:37.50 | Arrowmaster | i made so many of the damn tailoring cloaks that are used in the leatherworking recipe to make the ony cloak |
| 02:37.59 | Amarande | part of the Blue scepter piece fork, IIRC |
| 02:38.03 | Lopeppeppy | never did aq40 either |
| 02:38.15 | Amarande | actually, you technically don't have to do AQ40 at all to do the "AQ40" chain |
| 02:38.28 | Amarande | although it makes it a LOT easier now to get started on it |
| 02:38.31 | Lopeppeppy | did npt do |
| 02:38.53 | Amarande | after all, the entire chain had to be available without entering AQ20 or AQ40, since it was originally the chain to open the gates to that instance for the server |
| 02:38.57 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: so when did you get broodlords head? |
| 02:39.02 | Amarande | Arrow: haven't got it yet |
| 02:39.14 | Amarande | going to head to UBRS in a bit and see about getting BWL attunement |
| 02:39.23 | Amarande | I've had the quest in my log like for-ever- |
| 02:39.47 | Amarande | but haven't got around to doing it ... previously I couldn't because of not being able to find a group and it used to take 3 people to get through UBRS, like with Uldaman |
| 02:39.55 | Amarande | and then I was busy with Northrend |
| 02:40.32 | Amarande | then I have to see about gathering up the first of two or three BWL raids I'm going to end up doing. |
| 02:40.53 | Amarande | Hopefully two or three. I can get all my BWL goals in two if I'm lucky, but depending on the presence of other miners in the raid, I might need more runs. |
| 02:41.09 | Amarande | As a miner with completist intents, I need to pick up smelt elementium while I'm there. |
| 02:41.21 | Amarande | Other than that, I need Broodlord's head, and later on to do the Vael-Nef 5 hour quest |
| 02:42.01 | Amarande | anyway Peppy, the availability of going into AQ40 just makes the AQ40 chain a lot easier to get started |
| 02:42.17 | Amarande | mainly: you need to farm 42,000 rep with Brood of Nozdormu before you can do more than the first three or so steps |
| 02:42.25 | Lopeppeppy | i'd like to visit |
| 02:42.38 | Amarande | This takes not very long if you actually go to AQ20 and AQ40 since the mobs give tons of rep |
| 02:42.48 | Fisker | drops a bomb |
| 02:42.52 | Amarande | but if you have to do it solo, you have to ... well, let's just say you'll be seeing silithids in your sleep by the time you get done. :) |
| 02:42.56 | Fisker | oops what a shame |
| 02:43.20 | Lopeppeppy | no bugs |
| 02:43.22 | Codayus | AQ40 is a nice play to visit at 80 if you didn't do it at 60. It's quick, easy, and it gives you a warm glow when you think "wow, this is a terrible raid instance, glad I didn't do this at 60" |
| 02:43.41 | jpmorgan | heh |
| 02:43.45 | Dagmar | Awesome. Here I was thinking there's nothing stopping me hitting 79 on the DK... |
| 02:43.49 | Lopeppeppy | needs more glow |
| 02:43.59 | Amarande | Codayus: from the part I saw, I thought it looked kinda neat. |
| 02:44.34 | tem | Codayus, I think you've mistaken |
| 02:44.39 | Codayus | Heh |
| 02:44.40 | tem | AQ was an awesome raid instance |
| 02:44.49 | tem | it just had some really punishing mechanics |
| 02:44.50 | Lopeppeppy | bugs |
| 02:44.53 | Lopeppeppy | yes |
| 02:44.54 | Amarande | tem: and bad timing |
| 02:45.00 | Codayus | It's too large, empty, boring, sparse, and hideously ugly. |
| 02:45.07 | tem | Having said that, Huhuran is the most bullshit fight ever made |
| 02:45.08 | Amarande | by the time most guilds were ready for AQ40, they were disheartened to do it due to the impending gear reset that was the BC release |
| 02:45.09 | NightHawkTheSane | and full of bugs |
| 02:45.20 | tem | Oh I disagree 100% there. The look of the place is _awesome_ |
| 02:45.40 | Dagmar | I like the free mounts. :) |
| 02:45.47 | Amarande | remember: top end BC gear is still nice for leveling to 80. top end WotLK gear will certainly be awesome for leveling to 85. |
| 02:46.01 | Codayus | I can't really comment about the fights, since at 80 everything just falls over. But it really doesn't matter, because you can't concentrate on the fights because the art direction was handled by one colour blind intern who was suffering from a hangover and wanted to make all the players SUFFER. |
| 02:46.02 | Amarande | But top end Classic gear was pretty much CRAP as soon as you hit BC. |
| 02:46.12 | Amarande | Basically, the only gear that had any use at all past 60 was from Old Naxx, apparently. |
| 02:46.18 | Lopeppeppy | that was us, Ama. Too close to tbc to bother |
| 02:46.28 | Amarande | And maybe a trinket or two with very specific effects that weren't available in the BC leveling questing items |
| 02:46.35 | Codayus | (If you like ugly glowing bugs and miles of empty borong tunnels, then maybe AQ40 is your kind of instance. I dunno.) |
| 02:47.09 | A-KO | I liked MC |
| 02:47.10 | A-KO | and AQ40 |
| 02:47.13 | Lopeppeppy | do my laundry, walk the dog |
| 02:47.14 | A-KO | really didn't like BWL |
| 02:47.17 | A-KO | LBRS was great |
| 02:47.34 | A-KO | I like non-linear instances that feel like it actually has a point, or a design to it, unrelated to making the fastest run for players. |
| 02:47.36 | Amarande | I'm heading to BRS later. I have mixed feelings about the instance. |
| 02:47.54 | A-KO | LBRS was fantastic |
| 02:47.56 | Amarande | It's fun, but if it's anything like BRD, I'm going to keep getting lost. |
| 02:48.04 | A-KO | it's the equivalent of say |
| 02:48.11 | A-KO | Crysis vs. Call of Duty |
| 02:48.20 | A-KO | Crysis' game world actually feels like a world--run around, do shit, approach things differently. |
| 02:48.27 | A-KO | COD is like "HERE'S A 2 FOOT FENCE YOU CAN'T JUMP OVER!" |
| 02:48.29 | NightHawkTheSane | lbrs really wanted to be fantastic, it was a touch to labrynthine for me, though |
| 02:48.41 | Codayus | BWL was...better than MC, and that's about all you can say for it. Just...lots of long empty tunnels, with very little decoration or attention to detail. :-/ |
| 02:48.47 | A-KO | I liked the boss fights in BWL |
| 02:48.48 | Amarande | Also, questing there is forcing me to have my hearth at Kargath, which means I'm going to have to go back to Dalaran the long way once I'm done. |
| 02:48.50 | A-KO | but I don't like the art design |
| 02:49.01 | A-KO | the map design of bwl was too boxy |
| 02:49.06 | A-KO | it felt like one of those doom tutorial editors |
| 02:49.08 | A-KO | HERE'S A ROOM |
| 02:49.10 | A-KO | HERE'S ANOTHER ROOM |
| 02:49.12 | Amarande | (Am I glad I'm Horde. I have no idea what you'd want to set your hearth to for Alliance to do Mother's Milk properly.) |
| 02:49.12 | A-KO | HERE'S HOW YOU JOIN THEM |
| 02:49.42 | Codayus | A-KO: THIS ROOM IS A LAB. You can tell because we placed ONE large incongrous tank of green glowing fluid randomly in it. Doesn't it look TOTALLY LAB LIKE? |
| 02:50.11 | A-KO | the dungeon design just doesn't make sense |
| 02:50.17 | A-KO | hell tbh |
| 02:50.20 | Codayus | They're breeding dragons there, with no eggs. |
| 02:50.21 | A-KO | not even the Coliseum makes sense |
| 02:50.29 | Codayus | And what the ehll was Chromaggus doing in a closet, anyhow? |
| 02:50.41 | Lopeppeppy | eggs are in the magic zone, that's lore |
| 02:50.43 | Codayus | Well, there were eggs at Razor, obviously. But not elsewhere. |
| 02:50.52 | A-KO | did they really build the Coliseum overtop that large hole? |
| 02:51.01 | A-KO | how come when Arthas breaks the floor, it doesn't break any ground :P |
| 02:51.03 | Codayus | I think TK is the gold standard for terribly designed dungeons that make no sense, however. |
| 02:51.04 | A-KO | just coliseum floor |
| 02:51.25 | A-KO | you know what really blows? they don't make any use of weather effects |
| 02:51.28 | A-KO | no snow in dragonblight |
| 02:51.30 | A-KO | no snow in borean |
| 02:51.33 | Codayus | A-KO: I assume the nerubians tunneled up. |
| 02:51.57 | A-KO | like wtf happened to wow's weather system? :( |
| 02:52.02 | Codayus | And yes, there's kickass weather effects in vanilla world, but not in northrend. |
| 02:52.07 | A-KO | what they SHOULD do |
| 02:52.08 | A-KO | for a world event |
| 02:52.10 | Lopeppeppy | hate weather |
| 02:52.16 | A-KO | is make the entire world storm |
| 02:52.17 | A-KO | like nasty |
| 02:52.25 | Codayus | I was doing the brewfest daily, and it was cold and foggy in Kharanos, and looked fantastic. |
| 02:52.39 | A-KO | it's shit like that that irritates me |
| 02:52.43 | A-KO | I understand why they do the map design thing |
| 02:52.46 | Codayus | And I was thinking "wow, this looks ten times better - and colder - than any place in Northrend. WTF>" |
| 02:52.50 | A-KO | but they have gotten terribly sloppy onw |
| 02:52.52 | A-KO | now |
| 02:52.53 | A-KO | Ulduar |
| 02:52.54 | A-KO | is wtf |
| 02:53.05 | A-KO | granted, Arathi is way too small :P |
| 02:53.17 | Lopeppeppy | kharanos kicks serious ass |
| 02:53.18 | Codayus | Naa, all the Wrath 5 mans and raids are win, design-wise. Even Colliseum isn't bad, just a bit simple. |
| 02:53.43 | A-KO | no, see, I would rather have mcuh more designed zone than this linear BS we have now |
| 02:53.52 | A-KO | LBRS, UBRS |
| 02:53.55 | A-KO | Scholomance |
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| 02:53.59 | Amarande | Codayus: Kinda a lack of the big facilities of the olden days, though |
| 02:54.01 | A-KO | even MC, see, MC was great |
| 02:54.07 | A-KO | I liked MC because it was MC |
| 02:54.11 | A-KO | it was a big fucking hole in a mountain |
| 02:54.12 | Lopeppeppy | love scholo |
| 02:54.13 | Codayus | I really like the end of Ulduar - the ring with the keppers, and then you head down with all the shattered doors and windows...it's win. |
| 02:54.16 | Amarande | There's been what, TWO full-sized raid dungeons in WotLK? |
| 02:54.21 | Amarande | Ulduar and Naxx, that's about it |
| 02:54.32 | Amarande | Scholo is awesome. |
| 02:54.40 | Amarande | I'm trying to remember if there's a significant number of quests I've forgotten there. |
| 02:54.47 | Amarande | I guess I'll find out when I make it back to the Plaguelands. |
| 02:54.49 | Lopeppeppy | yes :) |
| 02:55.03 | A-KO | like I said--dungeons that actually feel like a place in the world than a linear train path designed for the players to plow through are much nicer |
| 02:55.06 | A-KO | take al ot more work though |
| 02:55.15 | A-KO | for aesthetics that most people don't care about |
| 02:55.36 | A-KO | I completely understand why they don't do it but it still sucks :P |
| 02:55.46 | Amarande | hmm |
| 02:55.55 | A-KO | and you want ot know labyrinth? |
| 02:55.57 | A-KO | try BFD |
| 02:56.01 | Lopeppeppy | ugh |
| 02:56.03 | A-KO | the area before BFD's entrance lol |
| 02:56.09 | Lopeppeppy | judt UGH |
| 02:56.10 | A-KO | that place is god awful |
| 02:56.14 | Amarande | wasn't TK kinda nonlinear? (other than that they somehow did it so you originally had to kill all 3 other bosses to get to Kael) |
| 02:56.23 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, bfd and the pre-bfd area was a pita. |
| 02:56.29 | Codayus | TK was nonlinear, but in a terrible way. |
| 02:56.31 | Lopeppeppy | I like sunken temple though, if you don't get split up |
| 02:56.32 | Amarande | Night: meh, that's simplesauce. :) |
| 02:56.36 | Codayus | Linear is fine, but it needs to FEEL nonlinear. |
| 02:56.42 | Amarande | try the areas before Deadmines and Sunken Temple |
| 02:56.45 | Amarande | not to mention ST itself |
| 02:56.51 | Lopeppeppy | love temple! |
| 02:56.53 | Amarande | OMG WHY ARE WE GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES AGAIN. |
| 02:57.02 | Codayus | TK was nonlinear - you could kill the three bosses in any order - but it still sucked. |
| 02:57.06 | Lopeppeppy | just don't separate! |
| 02:57.14 | NightHawkTheSane | ST itself is pretty straightforward. the area outside the instance is also really obnoxious, though |
| 02:57.38 | Amarande | Night: yeah, I've always said that the proper reaction to wiping in ST is /cry |
| 02:57.48 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, its still one of my favorite instances. |
| 02:58.13 | Amarande | Yeah, I remember when my Paladin back on Quel'dorei got her bra there. LOL |
| 02:58.30 | Amarande | I think it was enough to make me actually invest in a shirt slot item :) |
| 02:59.08 | Amarande | ahhh, the good old days of Classic where every plate chestpiece pretty much looked like a skimpy bra on female characters |
| 02:59.13 | Lopeppeppy | ugh |
| 02:59.14 | Amarande | basically, until you got to epics |
| 02:59.19 | Amarande | the epics looked decent IIRC |
| 02:59.20 | Lopeppeppy | yup |
| 02:59.23 | Amarande | but the blues were ... blah |
| 02:59.24 | Lopeppeppy | mostly |
| 02:59.26 | A-KO | I'm severely underimpressed with the toc art design on gear |
| 02:59.32 | A-KO | they must be saving it for IC |
| 02:59.38 | Amarande | once you got to epics it was the casters that ended up scantily clad |
| 02:59.44 | Amarande | like that one robe from AQ40 what was it called |
| 03:00.06 | Codayus | The pink one? |
| 03:00.07 | Codayus | Ugh |
| 03:00.15 | A-KO | they still have yet to drop a druid set that I like the looks of |
| 03:00.17 | Amarande | no, the one that looks like the robe Aurora Skycaller wears in EPL |
| 03:00.18 | A-KO | actually I take that back |
| 03:00.26 | A-KO | dungeon 0 set before they updated it |
| 03:00.29 | Lopeppeppy | green thing? |
| 03:00.39 | Amarande | think it was green or teal or such |
| 03:00.48 | Amarande | and was pretty much a skirt and bra for female characters |
| 03:01.00 | NightHawkTheSane | A-KO: wait, you mean wildheart or whatever? |
| 03:01.00 | Lopeppeppy | vaguely remember |
| 03:01.11 | A-KO | yeah NightHawkTheSane |
| 03:01.17 | A-KO | wildheart before it looked like a giant lawn ornament |
| 03:01.22 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 i dont know anyone else who liked those shoulders |
| 03:01.29 | A-KO | no no |
| 03:01.33 | A-KO | before it looked like the hood ornament shit :P |
| 03:01.39 | A-KO | when it was purple |
| 03:01.41 | A-KO | old school |
| 03:01.51 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. i dont remember that then. |
| 03:02.10 | Amarande | actually, this is one thing that still perennially bugs me about WoW vs. Guild Wars, which I played before WoW |
| 03:02.22 | Amarande | I wish there was greater choice in variety of looks for characters without gimping yourself |
| 03:02.42 | A-KO | Amarande: problem with that comes down to network bandwidth |
| 03:02.44 | A-KO | animation quality |
| 03:02.45 | A-KO | etc |
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| 03:02.53 | Amarande | yeah, everyplace would be Dalaran heh |
| 03:02.55 | A-KO | WoW goes for a 60FPS animation quality |
| 03:03.03 | A-KO | most other games sync to 30fps |
| 03:03.04 | Dagmar | You're just begging to have pink deathknights |
| 03:03.18 | Amarande | Dagmar: that's it, my next DK is rolling need on Alanna's if it drops |
| 03:03.19 | Amarande | LOL |
| 03:03.37 | Lopeppeppy | fuzzy pink death |
| 03:03.54 | Dagmar | I did a lot better on the melee thing last night |
| 03:04.01 | Dagmar | I'm so used to huntering |
| 03:04.18 | Dagmar | Right until we got to Brann |
| 03:04.19 | Amarande | hmm, what I really need to figure out for LBRS now is |
| 03:04.30 | Amarande | the right route, at 80, to go through it so that I face Mother Smolderweb LAST |
| 03:04.37 | Dagmar | Then I went all "i r ranged caster dk" again |
| 03:04.40 | Amarande | so I can hearth right after her without having to make a second trip for other quests |
| 03:04.55 | Lopeppeppy | don't think you can... |
| 03:05.04 | Amarande | I *think* I might be able to avoid aggroing her at 80 with the near nil aggro radius, but ... |
| 03:05.12 | Lopeppeppy | dicey |
| 03:05.20 | Lopeppeppy | try, but dicey |
| 03:05.20 | Amarande | hmm, which quests do I have for BRS right now |
| 03:05.42 | Dagmar | The only one I ever bother with is the "what's in these boxes" quest |
| 03:06.02 | Lopeppeppy | i like my spider pet |
| 03:06.14 | Dagmar | I saved the dwarf princess, and was generally unimpressed with the response. |
| 03:06.26 | Lopeppeppy | princess? |
| 03:06.40 | Amarande | Dagmar: that was BRD, not BRS |
| 03:06.50 | Lopeppeppy | that's depths isn't it? |
| 03:06.55 | Dagmar | It's set my expectations low |
| 03:07.03 | Dagmar | The place is just where I keep my enchanting materials now |
| 03:07.09 | Lopeppeppy | never won that fight |
| 03:07.13 | Codayus | Unless you meant Mauradon, in which case you need your eyes checked. |
| 03:07.23 | Codayus | Even female dwarves aren't QUITE that guly. |
| 03:07.26 | Dagmar | no, the King's daughter is typically a princess. |
| 03:07.27 | Amarande | soo ... right now I've got Operative Bijou, The Pack Mistress, Mother's Milk, Blackhand's Command (UBRS) and The Darkstone Tablet (UBRS) |
| 03:07.31 | Codayus | ugly, even. Close, I grant you. |
| 03:07.37 | Lopeppeppy | wolf pup too |
| 03:07.51 | Amarande | I already did the worg pup quest, IIRC |
| 03:08.13 | Amarande | and the one that gives the spider minipet, too |
| 03:08.14 | Lopeppeppy | what's pack mistress then? |
| 03:08.19 | Amarande | kill Halycon |
| 03:08.33 | Amarande | I'm wondering if I can reach Bijou and Halycon without having to aggro Smolderweb |
| 03:08.43 | Amarande | the other two quests are UBRS, so they won't interfere in the route |
| 03:08.48 | Lopeppeppy | oh, right, you didn't aggro her stealing babies? |
| 03:08.56 | Amarande | I didn't pick up Mother's Milk quest at the time |
| 03:09.20 | Amarande | because if I remember, I was also doing the quest that required killing Voone and the 2 others then, too |
| 03:09.30 | Amarande | which meant I was going for a full clear and thus was avoiding the poison at all costs |
| 03:10.09 | Amarande | Like I said, Mother's Milk makes one REALLY glad to be horde. |
| 03:10.23 | Amarande | since Horde can set hearth at Kargath and have a more or less unobstructed route back to the quest giver |
| 03:10.28 | Shirik | I swear to god, Microsoft's naming conventions need to die |
| 03:10.33 | Lopeppeppy | yes |
| 03:10.39 | A-KO | why Shirik? |
| 03:10.42 | Amarande | and more importantly, one where they're very unlikely these days to encounter other players on the way |
| 03:10.43 | Shirik | We have a library, we'll call it foo |
| 03:10.53 | Shirik | if you want to build a static library, we call it foo.lib |
| 03:10.54 | Amarande | because there's nothing like almost making it back and then some well-meaning druid or pally ... :P |
| 03:11.00 | Lopeppeppy | ugh |
| 03:11.01 | Shirik | if you want to build a dynamic library, we call it foo.dll |
| 03:11.02 | Shirik | BUT |
| 03:11.08 | Shirik | we also need a "exports file" |
| 03:11.11 | tem | lolz just pugged ony 25 |
| 03:11.14 | tem | that's pretty sad |
| 03:11.14 | Shirik | which we call foo.lib |
| 03:11.16 | Amarande | Alliance's closest hearth is in a much more civilized spot (Redridge I think?) so that's a lot more likely to happen |
| 03:11.22 | Shirik | so if you want a dynamic AND a static library, you have to name them different |
| 03:11.26 | Amarande | tem: Ony wasn't meant to be uber hard that I know of |
| 03:11.29 | Shirik | because there's two completely different foo.lib files |
| 03:11.50 | Amarande | given that she's pretty much a sidequest of sorts outside of the regular progression |
| 03:11.57 | Amarande | btw, does Ony drop Triumph or Conquest badges? |
| 03:12.03 | Codayus | Triumph |
| 03:12.28 | Amarande | and would a warlock in ilvl 200 be able to make it through the fight? |
| 03:12.28 | tem | Amarande, the fact the a pug has the gear to handle a teir-9 level boss is rediculous |
| 03:12.37 | Amarande | (assuming we don't do anything stupid like try for the whelps achievement) |
| 03:13.03 | Lopeppeppy | her mechanics are WELL know, everyone's seen her before |
| 03:13.22 | Amarande | tem: not really |
| 03:13.30 | Amarande | given that badge gear these days is basically T8-T9 level |
| 03:13.50 | Amarande | you can get what, 2pT9 just by doing the daily heroic enough? |
| 03:14.23 | Amarande | and even the regular heroic badges now give T8 grade stuff |
| 03:14.33 | Amarande | and it's assumed that T8 gear is sufficient to take a T9 boss, since that's the progression |
| 03:14.42 | tem | Amarande, that's what I'm saying |
| 03:14.48 | Dagmar | Less than that |
| 03:14.54 | tem | the fact that they give out what's basically current gear |
| 03:14.57 | tem | by doing heroics |
| 03:15.01 | tem | that kind of bothers me |
| 03:15.12 | Amarande | tem: I can see the design reason for that quite clearly, though |
| 03:15.18 | tem | oh certainly |
| 03:15.20 | Amarande | it's designed to prevent a repeat of BC where people got stuck hopelessly behind in gear |
| 03:15.30 | Codayus | tem: There's a pretty obvious partial gear reset in progress to prep for icecrown, and to make ulduar hard modes achievable for more players. |
| 03:15.46 | tem | yes |
| 03:15.49 | tem | but I don't want that |
| 03:15.58 | tem | that's my "complaint" |
| 03:15.58 | Codayus | Heh |
| 03:16.11 | Amarande | tem: so you want like what, 0.5% of players to even have a reasonable chance to even try to meet Arthas before Cata? |
| 03:16.21 | tem | I didn't put in the effort to stay on the edge of raiding in previous expansions |
| 03:16.22 | Amarande | And that's probably a high estimate |
| 03:16.35 | tem | and I didn't mind that I was several teirs behind the edge in loot |
| 03:16.47 | tem | I have put in the effort this time around |
| 03:17.00 | tem | so it annoys me that it's just getting handed out to anyone who can do a heroic |
| 03:17.09 | Amarande | tem: the game should be fun, and the PvE game in particular is supposed to be about fighting the -villains- |
| 03:17.19 | Lopeppeppy | ony is supposed to be a fun easter egg. |
| 03:17.20 | Amarande | it's not supposed to be about treating the other players as competition to get ahead of in gear and raiding |
| 03:17.53 | tem | *shrug* |
| 03:18.01 | tem | I just don't like how "casual" lk feels |
| 03:18.07 | Codayus | tem: If your really cutting edge, you'll have hard mode loot. That's not getting handed out. Heroics don't give the same gear as cutting edge raids, just close. |
| 03:18.25 | tem | I finally fixed my schedule to actually do the "hard" content and now it doesn't mean anything |
| 03:19.06 | Lopeppeppy | *hug* |
| 03:19.08 | tem | Codayus, the one thing I do think they did well is the hard achievemens and titles |
| 03:19.09 | Amarande | tem: so people should be -encouraged- to make sacrifices like from their *jobs* in order to play WoW at scheduled hours, as a price for the privilege of seeing the good content? |
| 03:19.25 | Amarande | I'd probably see hard content all the time if I was willing to tell work not to schedule me any nights |
| 03:19.28 | tem | I <3 my proto drakes |
| 03:19.45 | Amarande | I'd probably also get like 12-14 hours of work a week and not be able to do other fun things like go to Dragon*Con and the TarValon.net Anniversary party each year |
| 03:20.00 | tem | ooh! TarValon |
| 03:20.03 | Amarande | instead of a respectable 30-35 hours or so |
| 03:20.05 | tem | um |
| 03:20.11 | tem | the thing |
| 03:20.12 | tem | uh |
| 03:20.20 | tem | A memory of light? |
| 03:20.25 | tem | that's soon, right? |
| 03:20.31 | Amarande | tem: actually, it's been split into three books |
| 03:20.33 | Codayus | Amarande: If you mean "see the content at all", then no, and that's not really what I think tem is saying. If by good content you mean "beat the game, ie, Yogg+0, Algalon, etc.", then sure. Just like ANY HOBBY IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. :-) |
| 03:20.47 | Amarande | and the original title A Memory of Light is now being saved for the final of the three |
| 03:20.58 | Amarande | the next book is indeed coming out very soon, and called The Gathering Storm |
| 03:21.08 | tem | oh god fucking damnit |
| 03:21.12 | Codayus | And yes, the titles, mounts, and achievements are very powerful. |
| 03:21.19 | Codayus | Er, s/powerful/good/ |
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| 03:21.25 | Amarande | tem: the series is really pretty much done |
| 03:21.34 | Codayus | Trying to do Northrend beasts while chatting. :) |
| 03:21.37 | Amarande | but Sanderson and the publisher realized that releasing AMoL as one book would have made it WAY too big to be marketable |
| 03:21.55 | Amarande | so they're splitting it up |
| 03:21.56 | tem | Amarande, wtf marketable |
| 03:22.04 | tem | it's the last book of a 13 book series |
| 03:22.06 | Amarande | tem: we're talking AMoL in one volume |
| 03:22.11 | tem | what the fuck is their market? |
| 03:22.13 | Amarande | would be basically as big as an UNABRIDGED DICTIONARY |
| 03:22.21 | tem | people who read the first 12 and are buying it anyway |
| 03:22.43 | tem | that's a bullshit excuse to make more money by selling it in 3 parts |
| 03:22.56 | Amarande | anyway, we get The Gathering Storm in late October |
| 03:23.05 | tem | and the release schedule better be better than it's been in the past |
| 03:23.10 | Amarande | then sometime over the next year or two I think it is we get book 13 and AMoL |
| 03:23.22 | Amarande | (I can't remember off the top of my head what book 13 is going to be called, although I *think* it's been said) |
| 03:23.24 | tem | it's been what 3 years since KoD? |
| 03:23.33 | Amarande | tem: you have to remember though |
| 03:23.36 | Amarande | the original author DIED |
| 03:23.40 | tem | I know I know RJ died |
| 03:23.42 | Amarande | it had to be picked up by another author for completion |
| 03:23.46 | Amarande | that kinda slows things down :| |
| 03:23.48 | tem | right |
| 03:24.01 | tem | but even when RJ hadn't died, the pace was a book every 2 years |
| 03:24.10 | Lopeppeppy | george rr martin is worse |
| 03:24.17 | tem | I don't feel like waiting 4 more years for what I thought was ending in a month |
| 03:24.20 | Lopeppeppy | now that he's making a movie, h'll never finish he series |
| 03:24.23 | Amarande | and generally, it takes at least several months after a book is actually complete for it to reach shelves, if I remember reading various author forums |
| 03:25.28 | Lopeppeppy | yup |
| 03:25.34 | Lopeppeppy | proof copies, printing runs, etc. |
| 03:25.42 | Lopeppeppy | And coordinated shipping for a major title like that. |
| 03:26.11 | tem | if you haven't guessed, I'm just pissed that the publisher is going to get even more money out of me by splitting it into 3 sections |
| 03:26.24 | tem | and delaying the end |
| 03:26.29 | Lopeppeppy | *huggle* |
| 03:26.37 | tem | so reason is kind of wasted |
| 03:30.30 | tem | A Memory of Light, partially written by Jordan and completed by Brandon Sanderson, will be released over a two-year period. |
| 03:30.32 | tem | fucking sigh |
| 03:31.55 | tem | Amarande, all 3 volumes are A Memory of Light |
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| 03:32.44 | Lopeppeppy | kitty screaming, must be bedtime, ttfn |
| 03:32.58 | tem | the individual volume titles are: The Gathering Storm, Shifting Winds (tentative) and Tarman'Gaidon (tentative) |
| 03:33.30 | NightHawkTheSane | so.. his last book is actually 3 books? |
| 03:33.48 | NightHawkTheSane | raise your hand if you're actually surprised by this. |
| 03:34.22 | tem | I guess I'm not so much surprized as I am pissed |
| 03:34.22 | kd3 | notes the suspicious lack of raised hands in the channel |
| 03:34.40 | NightHawkTheSane | i didn't see you raising any, kd3 :P |
| 03:34.57 | kd3 | not surprised |
| 03:35.00 | kd3 | considering how bloated the books were getting before he died |
| 03:35.07 | kd3 | glances at his bookshelf |
| 03:35.23 | tem | releasing it in 3 volumes makes sense because it really does need to be that long to finish all the remaining sub plots |
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| 03:35.35 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, yeah. |
| 03:35.54 | tem | I just wish they had been man enough to say that a year ago instead of saying "A memory of light will conclude the series and will be out in november 09" |
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| 03:36.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Well, I can almost believe they had intended that originally. Its not like books never get delayed |
| 03:37.19 | tem | shrug |
| 03:37.22 | tem | I need food |
| 03:37.33 | Amarande | tem: if you read the dust jacket from The Fires of Heaven, IIRC it was even intended to be only 8 books |
| 03:37.37 | NightHawkTheSane | but yeah, any illusions that it would be just one book were just that. illusions |
| 03:37.42 | Amarande | but later got extended to the 12+ book series model |
| 03:37.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ... we all remember the infamous "it's going to be a trilogy" quote, yeah? |
| 03:38.01 | kd3 | laughs |
| 03:38.31 | tem | Amarande, I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be a triligy |
| 03:38.34 | tem | trilogy* |
| 03:38.38 | tem | oh NHTS beat me to it |
| 03:38.46 | kd3 | 5000-page books? |
| 03:38.50 | kd3 | cowers in fear |
| 03:38.56 | tem | I read one of those |
| 03:39.04 | tem | er wait no |
| 03:39.10 | tem | it was 1500 pages, I think |
| 03:39.16 | tem | War and Peice |
| 03:39.21 | tem | fuck it it was LONG |
| 03:39.32 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: Oh, I can fully believe RJ started out intending to write a 3 book story. Things just spiralled out of control :P |
| 03:40.35 | tem | NHTS, the cynic in me thinks is has less to do with the story spiralling out of control and and revenue spiking |
| 03:40.55 | tem | s/and and/and more to do with/ |
| 03:40.59 | tem | yeah I definitely need food |
| 03:41.08 | tem | parts of sentences are just being skipped |
| 03:41.11 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, that had occured to me. |
| 03:41.29 | NightHawkTheSane | sans any real evidence, i'd give either explanation equal weight |
| 03:41.40 | tem | agree |
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| 03:44.17 | Amarande | wow, UBRS is actually a lot more straightforward than I expected of a Blackrock instance |
| 03:44.42 | Amarande | btw: as for Molten Core going away in Cata ... I doubt it, come to think of it |
| 03:44.50 | Amarande | remember, MC is basically, in the end, an extension of BRD |
| 03:45.01 | Amarande | like how UBRS and BWL are extensions of LBRS |
| 03:45.14 | Amarande | removing MC would probably mean removing BRD and I don't think they'd do that |
| 03:45.33 | Amarande | (especially with how much, say, Brewfest revolves around BRD and the Dark Iron) |
| 03:51.00 | Amarande | btw |
| 03:51.13 | Amarande | is it just me, or is the trash in UBRS actually less punishing to an 80 than the trash in LBRS or BRD? |
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| 03:54.03 | Codayus | At 60, it was vastly harder. *shrug* At 80, meh, lots of mechanics change. |
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| 04:28.26 | WobWork | ~imagehosting |
| 04:28.27 | purl | imagehosting is, like, http://images.gammatester.com/ by the courtesy of cladhaire |
| 04:28.57 | WobWork | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/a607a235ce075ed87ec0fb36e020fbe9.jpg |
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| 04:37.07 | Amarande | wtf, UBRS is bugged or something :( |
| 04:37.21 | Amarande | I got through all the waves in the Stadium, and Rend never came down to fight me, instead Victor said the mortals had fallen and the door opened again |
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| 04:40.13 | WobWork | well |
| 04:40.16 | Amarande | basically, seems like after all the waves of chromatics, the game treats it as if you have wiped even when you have not |
| 04:40.19 | WobWork | at least it didn't bug-berak |
| 04:40.21 | Amarande | do you need more than one person or something? |
| 04:40.22 | WobWork | break |
| 04:40.30 | WobWork | I've had it not open the doors again =( |
| 04:40.51 | Amarande | (also, do you have to actually clear out all the trash on the way down to Rend, or was that a precaution not necessary?) |
| 04:41.00 | WobWork | unnecessary afaik |
| 04:41.01 | Amarande | I assumed if I didn't clear out the trash it might all aggro to come help Rend or something |
| 04:41.14 | Amarande | and seeing as I can't even take *two* of the groups of veterans/elites at once ... heh |
| 04:41.26 | WobWork | that only occurs if a hunter doesn't dismiss their pet before jumping =) |
| 04:45.15 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart ScytheBlade1 |
| 04:45.15 | purl | whips ScytheBlade1 with a wet and grimy noodle just because |
| 04:47.05 | WobWork | what's a good site for desktop wallpapers? |
| 04:47.59 | NightHawkTheSane | apod |
| 04:48.30 | NightHawkTheSane | ~apod |
| 04:48.31 | purl | [apod] the Astronomy Picture of the Day at http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html |
| 04:48.32 | NightHawkTheSane | bah |
| 04:48.36 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, ^ |
| 04:48.41 | WobWork | hehe it worked~ |
| 04:48.50 | NightHawkTheSane | is just impatient right now |
| 04:49.28 | WobWork | I wonder if I can hack sitecore to automatically download the apod and wallpaper it |
| 04:51.55 | Amarande | yay, blackhand is dead |
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| 04:55.01 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: probably, but im not sure i would recommend it. at least not without adding some decent logic |
| 04:55.16 | NightHawkTheSane | its not -always- a picture they put up. sometimes its a move, or an animated gif, or something like that |
| 04:55.19 | NightHawkTheSane | movie* |
| 04:59.14 | Ycarene | Is there a mod that lets you enter alt codes if you're running in an environment that doesn't allow them? |
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| 05:00.29 | WobWork | not that I've ever seen |
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| 05:06.02 | Grimsin | can i pick someones brain for a minute about drop down menus |
| 05:16.09 | Shirik | .... |
| 05:16.14 | Shirik | My continuous integration server has lost its mind |
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| 05:16.27 | Shirik | Build TEST-DEF-23 failed. |
| 05:16.27 | Shirik | No failed tests found, a possible compilation error. |
| 05:16.47 | Shirik | so I go look at the build details |
| 05:17.05 | Shirik | <testsuite errors="0" failures="0" tests="5" name="from cppunit"> |
| 05:17.12 | Shirik | no failed tests BECAUSE THEY ALL SUCCEEDED |
| 05:18.50 | ReAn | did the TOC interface # change in this latest patch? |
| 05:19.09 | Shirik | no |
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| 05:25.36 | Ycarene | B |
| 05:25.57 | NightHawkTheSane | C |
| 05:27.57 | Amarande | hmm |
| 05:28.05 | Amarande | I know at 70, you could make a hop over by Kara to get soulshards while in Azeroth |
| 05:28.15 | Amarande | is there any way to do it at 80, without having to go all the way back to NR or get into a CoS group? |
| 05:31.24 | WobWork | duel someone of similar level |
| 05:32.16 | Ycarene | Can't get soulshards from a duel though. |
| 05:32.24 | WobWork | sure you can now |
| 05:32.36 | WobWork | I've been used as a soul vending machine a number of times |
| 05:32.49 | WobWork | you get shards from doing damage now, not killing |
| 05:41.37 | Amarande | Apparently, ?? Bosses from classic don't give shards now, either |
| 05:42.03 | Amarande | and dammit. I was forced to leave Drakkisath alive, after doing the two quests I had in UBRS and destroying -every single other thing in the area- |
| 05:42.25 | Amarande | I'm not sure what it takes to solo the guy, mainly because those chromatic guards have goddamned MS and seem to hit all the time even though they're 18 levels below me |
| 05:43.46 | nevcairiel | i solo'ed him, was a bit tricky with that fire thing he puts on you, but otherwise, was fine |
| 05:43.53 | WobWork | what class are you? |
| 05:44.03 | WobWork | oh |
| 05:44.04 | WobWork | >< |
| 05:44.06 | WobWork | sorry, it's friday |
| 05:44.40 | Ycarene | Hmm, compose key will probably work for most things. |
| 05:48.04 | Amarande | wob: lock. 56/0/15. |
| 05:48.24 | Amarande | I'm not sure destro would help me much in this particular case, however, as it came down to being about as squishy as a water balloon. |
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| 05:50.13 | Arrowmaster | this FlashForward show is perty interesting |
| 05:57.13 | NightHawkTheSane | heh. someone duels me outside org, tekNoDuel sends tehm a rude message, and their DBM responds, saying they're fighting yogg. |
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| 05:59.53 | Arrowmaster | ok this FlashForward show is really interesting |
| 06:00.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I am a nourish ninja |
| 06:00.20 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. |
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| 06:00.36 | NightHawkTheSane | how come my titles list is showing like 10 less titles than i actually have? >.> |
| 06:00.45 | ScytheBlade1 | It has a scroll bar now |
| 06:00.48 | NightHawkTheSane | oh wait, it scrolls now |
| 06:00.49 | ScytheBlade1 | An addon may be breaking it! |
| 06:00.49 | NightHawkTheSane | nevermind |
| 06:01.03 | NightHawkTheSane | i jus didnt't see the scroll bar |
| 06:01.31 | Arrowmaster | http://www.tvrage.com/shows/id-20798 |
| 06:02.59 | NightHawkTheSane | and, woo, what a long strange trip is done ;) |
| 06:03.19 | WobWork | grats |
| 06:03.34 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: slowpoke |
| 06:04.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: meh, im lazy :P |
| 06:05.08 | WobWork | Arrowmaster: oh, it has Merry in it |
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| 06:25.41 | NightHawkTheSane | man, the xkcd archives are so bad |
| 06:27.29 | WobWork | bad? |
| 06:28.46 | tem | bad in this context means good, I think |
| 06:28.58 | NightHawkTheSane | no, i mean, a pain to find the comic i'm actually looking for |
| 06:29.12 | NightHawkTheSane | not that i can think of anything better, really.. |
| 06:29.41 | WobWork | what are you searching for? |
| 06:30.14 | nevcairiel | usually google helps with that |
| 06:30.33 | nevcairiel | if you at least still know something about the comic |
| 06:32.13 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: http://xkcd.com/177 is what i was looking for, to be sure ;P |
| 06:32.31 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: yeah, i usually end up looking at the archives for 10 seconds, saying 'fuck it' and googling for it. |
| 06:32.37 | NightHawkTheSane | search, not sort, indeed. |
| 06:33.09 | WobWork | search for 'alice bob' got it= ) |
| 06:33.27 | WobWork | (as did 'alice') |
| 06:33.47 | NightHawkTheSane | its easy after the fact :P |
| 06:34.01 | Arrowmaster | it would help if the image text was hidden on the page as real text, then you could search for it easier |
| 06:35.35 | Arrowmaster | http://fukung.net/v/17408/c08580c04a6b1c4c69c699c96ee9dea7.gif |
| 06:42.32 | Adys | Question to css pros: if i have something like <div class="foo"><span id="bar"></span></span>, how do I use :not() to express "#bar that is not a child of a div.foo" ? #bar:not(>.foo) doesnt work |
| 06:43.52 | NightHawkTheSane | i think you might have to do something like *:not(.foo) > #bar |
| 06:44.44 | NightHawkTheSane | which says "#bar that is a direct child of any element except one with the class foo" |
| 06:44.49 | Adys | ooh |
| 06:45.34 | NightHawkTheSane | also, i googled 'css not selector' and the first result gave some very good examples |
| 06:46.21 | Adys | yeah i googled that too |
| 06:46.22 | Adys | also |
| 06:46.24 | Adys | that doesnt work |
| 06:46.59 | NightHawkTheSane | it doesn't? |
| 06:47.06 | Adys | seems to select too much |
| 06:47.14 | NightHawkTheSane | ... sure your browser understands the :not selector? :P |
| 06:47.24 | Adys | yes |
| 06:47.28 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/12860/monster-item-book-blue-offhand/ |
| 06:47.39 | Adys | here, the speed and the dps is supposed to be hidden |
| 06:48.13 | Adys | the tooltip has the class "sl23" which means "held in off hand" |
| 06:49.11 | Adys | I want to hide .tti-speed and .tti-dps for everything except tooltips that are .sl17, .sl13, .sl15, .sl21 and .sl22 |
| 06:49.26 | Adys | which is two-hand, main hand, one hand, off hand and ranged |
| 06:50.38 | Adys | testing only on sl17, *:not(.sl17) > .tti-speed {display: none; } doesnt work |
| 06:51.16 | NightHawkTheSane | is .tti-speed a -direct- child of .sl17? |
| 06:51.30 | Adys | no, its a descendant, but even without the > it doesnt work |
| 06:51.40 | Adys | well |
| 06:51.53 | Adys | it works, but it also selects on http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/22589/atiesh-greatstaff-of-the-guardian/ |
| 06:51.54 | NightHawkTheSane | well, the '>' means direct child, so if its not, you'll want to remove that |
| 06:51.57 | Adys | which is a sl17 |
| 06:52.02 | Adys | yeah did |
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| 06:52.29 | NightHawkTheSane | that sounds like it's just not properly evaluating :not |
| 06:52.47 | Adys | installs firefox >_> |
| 06:52.47 | nevcairiel | you are using a browser that actually supports :not, right? :P |
| 06:52.54 | Adys | yes, chrome supports :not |
| 06:53.04 | NightHawkTheSane | i totally already asked that. :P |
| 06:53.12 | Adys | it could be a bug |
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| 06:53.17 | NightHawkTheSane | its possible. |
| 06:54.40 | Adys | CHRIST |
| 06:54.42 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:54.47 | Adys | e2-canvas-perl libgnome2-common libgnome2-perl libgnome2-vfs-perl libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libgnomevfs2-extra libgphoto2-2 libgphoto2-port0 libgsf-1-114 libgsf-1-common libgtk2-perl libgtkhtml2-0 libgvfscommon0 libpango-perl libpolkit-agent-1-0 libproxy0 librsvg2-2 librsvg2-common libsoup-gnome2.4-1 libsoup2.4-1 libtdb1 obex-data-server policykit-1-gnome python-cairo pyth |
| 06:54.52 | Adys | on-glade2 python-gnupginterface python-gobject python-gtk2 python-gtkhtml2 python-software-properties python-vte software-properties-gtk ubufox xulrunner-1.9.1 |
| 06:54.55 | Adys | so much for "apt-get install firefox" |
| 06:55.10 | nevcairiel | hahaha whoever packaged your firefox decided to build it with gnome deps |
| 06:55.12 | nevcairiel | owned :P |
| 06:55.17 | Adys | its not |
| 06:55.21 | Adys | its pulling recommends |
| 06:55.22 | Adys | The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed: libcanberra0 ubufox |
| 06:55.27 | Adys | thank you aptitude |
| 06:55.52 | Adys | those two alone pull all of this shit |
| 06:56.02 | nevcairiel | probably the ubufox extension |
| 06:56.14 | Adys | yeah |
| 06:56.18 | Adys | its properly retarded |
| 06:56.50 | Adys | I really dont see how firefox can pull libcdio-paranoia0 |
| 06:56.56 | Torhal | I couldn't get firefox-3.0 off of my machine until I started using Karmic. |
| 06:57.06 | Adys | yeah? |
| 06:57.20 | Adys | xulrunner-1.9 shitting out? |
| 06:57.20 | Adys | i had the same |
| 06:57.20 | Torhal | It wanted to pull too many other things off |
| 06:57.20 | nevcairiel | probably through the gnomevfs dep somewhere |
| 06:57.31 | Adys | except i already was on karmic and had to reinstall |
| 06:57.42 | Torhal | Eww |
| 06:57.53 | Adys | piece of shit browser is a fucking virus |
| 06:58.52 | Adys | 28% [1 xulrunner-1.9.1 2583546/9089kB 28%] 13.3kB/s 8min 7s |
| 06:58.59 | Adys | yes, keep annoying me |
| 06:59.00 | nevcairiel | fast :) |
| 07:01.21 | NightHawkTheSane | i still have firefox 3 on this thing, i just installed 3.5 and linked around it |
| 07:01.24 | NightHawkTheSane | shrugs |
| 07:04.41 | JonOC1 | i have 3.5 on one machine and I hate it... |
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| 07:12.53 | Shirik | I have determined my automatic build system works flawlessly |
| 07:12.57 | Shirik | It compiles code then runs tests on it |
| 07:13.01 | Shirik | If the tests fail, it shows you which tests failed |
| 07:13.13 | Shirik | If the tests succeed, it says "no tests failed, so something else must be wrong" and fails |
| 07:15.09 | Fisker | you just ordered a thousand liters of milk then |
| 07:16.02 | nevcairiel | how can it be sure something failed ? <.< |
| 07:16.13 | nevcairiel | maybe it just works! |
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| 07:17.15 | Shirik | nothing works nevcairiel |
| 07:17.24 | Shirik | actually I have no idea why this system isn't working right :( |
| 07:17.34 | Shirik | For some reason it only picks up failures, not successes |
| 07:17.40 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 07:17.51 | Shirik | so basically it sees "0 failures, 0 successes" and says "something really bad must have happened during compilation" |
| 07:17.56 | Shirik | so that's why it fails |
| 07:18.15 | nevcairiel | it failed to compile the failures, so the tests passed! |
| 07:18.34 | Shirik | I know it builds correctly, and the XML file which describes teh tests are written correctly |
| 07:18.42 | Shirik | just the system isn't reading the XML back in correctly |
| 07:18.49 | Shirik | but I've spent way too much time on it tonight |
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| 07:31.47 | Arrowmaster | Adys: are you using failbuntu? i didnt thin there was a 'firefox' package anymore due to trademark |
| 07:32.15 | JonOC1 | lol |
| 07:34.36 | NightHawkTheSane | there is |
| 07:35.09 | Arrowmaster | i have iceweasel on debian and it doesnt depend on most of those, and iceweasel-gnome-support has the gnome and gvfs stuff, but thats just fucking wrong that its installing esound and all that python crap |
| 07:37.23 | Adys | its debian retarding around with copyrights |
| 07:37.24 | Adys | not ubuntu |
| 07:38.26 | Adys | also NightHawkTheSane I get the same in ff |
| 07:38.30 | Adys | so im gonna guess its not a bug |
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| 07:39.58 | Arrowmaster | i swear i saw somewhere that ubuntu was rebranding firefox too |
| 07:40.11 | Adys | no |
| 07:41.41 | nevcairiel | there is no reason to do it |
| 07:44.03 | NightHawkTheSane | are you certain ff supports css3? |
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| 07:44.17 | Arrowmaster | unless it was added in 3.5 it does not |
| 07:44.35 | NightHawkTheSane | I didn't think it did, but i could be wrong. |
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| 08:01.32 | Corrodias | so, did all the WoW players quit to go play Aion? just checking. |
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| 08:04.55 | Kalroth | uh, why? |
| 08:05.20 | Kalroth | I mean, why would you :p |
| 08:05.23 | Corrodias | if they did, it'd probably be because it was an awesome game. i take it that didn't happen. |
| 08:06.00 | Corrodias | if it's not incredible enough to pull away a big chunk of the wow population, it's not incredible enough to make me want to play another mmorpg ;) |
| 08:06.55 | JonOC1 | i didn't, infact just logged off my 4th toon 70+ |
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| 08:20.20 | ZorbaBeta | corrodias, I don't know anyone who quit to play Aion |
| 08:20.48 | ZorbaBeta | I know a few people who tried Aion out, and some people who were planning to quit anyway, but nobody who said "omg aion = amazing quitting WoW right now" who, y'know, said that *after* aion was released. |
| 08:22.35 | Corrodias | ah |
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| 08:29.04 | Fisker | strokes his HDD |
| 08:29.17 | Adys | is there some sort of str.join in js? |
| 08:29.32 | Adys | "|".join(["a", "b", "c", "d"]) |
| 08:34.57 | Fisker | ooh |
| 08:35.01 | Fisker | my new HDD is 2.0 |
| 08:35.07 | Fisker | 2.0TB |
| 08:35.10 | Fisker | not just 2TB |
| 08:35.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: l2google. array.join('|'); |
| 08:35.12 | Fisker | but 2.0 |
| 08:35.24 | theorbtwo | Fisker: ...? |
| 08:35.29 | Fisker | 2.0TB |
| 08:36.39 | theorbtwo | Er, yes... surely all 2TB drives are also 2.0TB drives? |
| 08:37.54 | Fisker | but they don't nessecarily say that |
| 08:38.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker: better than a 1.9999...TB disk |
| 08:41.09 | NightHawkTheSane | wanders off to sleep |
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| 09:19.44 | Adys | http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ga/1984/ga840924.gif |
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| 09:43.04 | Sentri | any git users? |
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| 09:45.03 | Wobin | ugh |
| 09:45.18 | Wobin | I'm trying to find a song that was on a Ministry of Sound collection that was mashed up with Daft Punk's Around the World |
| 09:45.26 | Wobin | so hard to search =P |
| 09:52.01 | Grum | Sentri: ofc |
| 09:52.13 | Adys | return val & eval("0x" + "f"*16) |
| 09:52.16 | Adys | KILL ME NOW |
| 09:52.46 | Grum | O.o |
| 09:53.00 | Grum | Adys: why on earth would you do that? |
| 09:53.06 | Grum | without the '&' it is exactly the same O.o |
| 09:53.37 | Adys | Im not the one doing that |
| 09:53.38 | Adys | and |
| 09:53.53 | Adys | this is far from being the problem |
| 09:54.14 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.15 | Fisker | hastemen |
| 09:56.19 | Fisker | the swedes are fucked up |
| 09:57.18 | Grum | Adys: what code is that btw? ;) |
| 09:58.18 | Adys | python-ptrace |
| 10:00.41 | Corrodias | today i learned about data structure alignment, because a packing structure size change in one of our source files was causing the most ridiculously mysterious bug. |
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| 14:12.20 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 14:12.36 | Lopeppeppy | heyo |
| 14:17.23 | bluspacecow | herro |
| 14:21.58 | Ackis | http://www.trackwarcraft.com/char/us/thunderlord/Ackis interesting |
| 14:22.40 | bluspacecow | i always knew you were studily |
| 14:24.44 | Lopeppeppy | ackis!!! |
| 14:25.12 | Lopeppeppy | what do you do with a puppy who isn't housetrained, besides walk her every hour and keep her in the tile-floor kitchen? |
| 14:25.14 | Ackis | hi peppy |
| 14:25.23 | Lopeppeppy | is not a dogge-personne |
| 14:26.12 | bluspacecow | Hello Dog shelter is what I say Lop |
| 14:26.14 | Ackis | we didn't walk ours every hour, we just put him outside every hour, praise when he went pee/poop outside, scolding when he went inside, when they pee inside you point at it say no, and immediatly put them outside, watch for signs of them having to go |
| 14:26.51 | bluspacecow | what about running their noses in it when they do poop/pee inside ? |
| 14:26.59 | bluspacecow | *rubbing |
| 14:27.10 | Lopeppeppy | then I just hae to wash her, bluspacecow. |
| 14:27.21 | bluspacecow | That's what a fire hose is for |
| 14:27.29 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, in my complex I have to walk her to the area for dogs. And it's down the stairs, which she's afraid of. |
| 14:27.43 | Lopeppeppy | I made a biiiiiig mistake not asking all of these questions before I said I'd puppy sit. |
| 14:27.58 | Lopeppeppy | They swore she's house trained and crate trained. No. No no no. |
| 14:28.02 | bluspacecow | actually that would be amusing..... tying a dog to a pole and watchin as it trys to run away from the fire house :) |
| 14:28.10 | bluspacecow | I'm a cruel cruel person |
| 14:28.11 | Lopeppeppy | well, okay, she only whined in her crate for like 2 minutes at bedtime, that's damn good. |
| 14:28.21 | bluspacecow | goes back to hacking bash scripts together |
| 14:28.25 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: praise is the best thing, dogs are dumb creatures whose only goal in life is to make you happy |
| 14:28.46 | Lopeppeppy | I feel mean locking her in the kitchen, but I only have one hand, I can't scrub any more dog pee out of the carpet without hurting myself. |
| 14:29.04 | bluspacecow | one hand ? |
| 14:29.21 | Sesshu| | hm trackwarcraft is a nice site |
| 14:29.31 | Lopeppeppy | trigger thumb, I got a cortisone injection esterday, can't use the hand. excuse all typos for the next 3 weeks please. |
| 14:29.43 | Iriel | bluspacecow: she's not high enough level to have the dual wield skill yet |
| 14:30.13 | bluspacecow | ah i cee |
| 14:30.39 | bluspacecow | well i decided i was sick of my ipod saved games getting wiped when i wipe my ipods |
| 14:30.43 | Lopeppeppy | bite me iriel. :P |
| 14:30.47 | bluspacecow | so im making a script to back that data up |
| 14:31.15 | Lopeppeppy | i was going to say, back them up? |
| 14:31.34 | bluspacecow | yeah you can't *officially* |
| 14:31.49 | bluspacecow | you can however make a script to copy it out of the iPod_Control folder |
| 14:31.54 | nevcairiel | I would've said "stop wiping your ipod" :P |
| 14:31.59 | bluspacecow | meh |
| 14:32.08 | Ackis | so after not being able to breath/etc for about 3-4 days doctor gave me puffers to take so I can breath now! :D |
| 14:32.15 | Lopeppeppy | i was assuming that wiping the ipod was fun in some manner |
| 14:32.18 | Lopeppeppy | yay! |
| 14:32.19 | Ackis | but I got to lay on the couch and play xbox for the last 3 days :D |
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| 14:32.30 | Lopeppeppy | is it athsma totally, or temporary bronchitis, etc? |
| 14:32.33 | bluspacecow | *gives Ackis CPR* |
| 14:32.38 | Ackis | and I found out if your xbox gets titled while playing a CD you scratch the CD |
| 14:32.38 | bluspacecow | there ya can breath ! |
| 14:32.52 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: chronic bronchitus, worrlied about pneumonia |
| 14:33.07 | Lopeppeppy | no. |
| 14:33.09 | Lopeppeppy | forbidden. |
| 14:33.13 | bluspacecow | Lope : yeah it was fun .... I was getting weird errors so thought the best thing to do would be to format the iPOd |
| 14:33.13 | Lopeppeppy | take drugs |
| 14:33.35 | Ackis | the anto-biotics they gave me weren't working so I got new ones which seem to work |
| 14:33.41 | Ackis | (I'm feeling well enough to be back at work) |
| 14:33.43 | Lopeppeppy | what are you on now? |
| 14:34.33 | Ackis | doxycyclon or something like it |
| 14:34.35 | Ackis | 2 puffers |
| 14:34.40 | Ackis | codin cough syrup |
| 14:34.52 | Ackis | they're limited on what anti-biotics they can give me |
| 14:34.56 | Ackis | is allergic to penecilin |
| 14:36.16 | bluspacecow | if [ -z ~/Ipod_Games_Saved_Games_Backup/$thecurrentbackupfolder ];then |
| 14:36.24 | bluspacecow | why do i use such long variable names ? |
| 14:37.04 | Ackis | it's betther than foo1 .. foon and then coming back a year later and going wtf? |
| 14:37.15 | nevcairiel | like your code? :D |
| 14:37.28 | bluspacecow | thecurrentbackupfolder=$date |
| 14:37.34 | bluspacecow | O_O oh dear god no |
| 14:37.38 | Lopeppeppy | docycycline. |
| 14:38.14 | Lopeppeppy | I'm allergic to pennicillan, erithromyacin, and a few other things. I can take keflex (which is odd, it's related o pennicillan, but whatever) and synthetics. |
| 14:38.32 | Ackis | nevcairiel: I use descriptive variables and a lot of comments :P I still don't know wtf I'm doing when I go back to it however :P |
| 14:38.44 | nevcairiel | thats even worse then! :P |
| 14:39.04 | Ackis | nah that's because my brain is so full of knowledge that stuff leaks out all the tiem! :D |
| 14:39.16 | nevcairiel | maybe its simply too small |
| 14:39.48 | bluspacecow | yay code monkey song :) |
| 14:39.48 | Ackis | nah I has a big cranium... thick too apparently :P |
| 14:43.33 | ScytheBlade1 | heh. I wake up, resume my laptop, and notice a browser minimized on "Ion Cannon - Wikipedia" |
| 14:43.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That explains things, namely why I'm so tired and why I did not get a lot of sleep |
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| 14:44.05 | Lopeppeppy | silly monkey |
| 14:44.30 | Ackis | were you fapping to ion cannons again? |
| 14:44.51 | ScytheBlade1 | .. no |
| 14:46.36 | Ackis | pity, I have a whole folder devoted to them! :P |
| 14:46.47 | bluspacecow | ..... |
| 14:47.00 | bluspacecow | * backs away slowly* |
| 14:49.04 | Ackis | so our kitten dutch ovened himself last night like twice |
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| 14:50.16 | bluspacecow | ? |
| 14:50.20 | Lopeppeppy | ? |
| 14:50.22 | bluspacecow | ovened ? |
| 14:50.28 | bluspacecow | he cooked himself ? |
| 14:50.32 | bluspacecow | thats some skill ! |
| 14:50.46 | Ackis | he farted while he was under the blankets snuggling and then bolted out... twice |
| 14:53.11 | bluspacecow | lolz |
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| 15:12.23 | bluspacecow | ack this date thing is kicking my butt ....what parameters on date do i need to produce "26 Sep 2009" ? |
| 15:12.45 | bluspacecow | i really don't want to have to use cut commands and really ugly code to get the result |
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| 15:13.36 | Iriel | You mean the unix date command? |
| 15:13.38 | zenzelezz | bluspacecow: date wheer? |
| 15:13.40 | zenzelezz | *where |
| 15:13.46 | bluspacecow | in bash |
| 15:15.15 | zenzelezz | date "+%d %b %Y" |
| 15:15.21 | bluspacecow | ty :) |
| 15:15.27 | Iriel | date +'%d %b %G' |
| 15:15.49 | Iriel | Actually %Y is betyer 8-) |
| 15:15.51 | Iriel | So go with z's |
| 15:16.09 | bluspacecow | whats the difference may i ask ? |
| 15:16.17 | Iriel | %Y is the actual year |
| 15:16.22 | zenzelezz | %G is "year according to the ISO week number", says man |
| 15:16.33 | Iriel | %G is the 'financial' year, sort of.. |
| 15:16.37 | bluspacecow | think i'll use the year one :) |
| 15:16.39 | bluspacecow | 1 |
| 15:17.07 | Iriel | BTW: man strftime 8-) |
| 15:18.03 | bluspacecow | oks :) |
| 15:22.54 | zenzelezz | I'm starting to see why people consider Facebook a bad place for young girls: http://zenzelezz.net/images/random/captcha.jpg |
| 15:23.37 | bluspacecow | ... |
| 15:23.47 | bluspacecow | my saved game data is 96 KB |
| 15:24.54 | Lopeppeppy | wow, that's... classic, zenzelezz |
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| 15:27.02 | Wobin | http://www.ironicsans.com/images/esotericcomic03.gif |
| 15:29.10 | Iriel | Iriel's random picture of the day: http://www.cheeseplant.org/~daniel/images/BoatBulbs.jpg |
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| 15:29.58 | Wobin | Iriel, that looks awesome |
| 15:30.14 | Iriel | (I mostly just like how the bulbs came out) |
| 15:32.04 | Lopeppeppy | I love how they repurposed that chandelier, and the old-style bulbs don't look very out of place. |
| 15:32.05 | Ackis | !api GetTradeSkillInfo |
| 15:32.05 | lua_bot | GetTradeSkillInfo: Returns information about a trade skill header or recipe (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetTradeSkillInfo) |
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| 15:43.28 | alestane | "Maybe he got caught stealin' cobblestones!" "Cobblestones?" "You know...highway robbery." |
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| 15:51.19 | alestane | What is the point in C++ of a template declaration with an empty argument list, i.e. "template<> blahblah"? |
| 15:52.18 | zenzelezz | hm, good question |
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| 15:56.06 | zenzelezz | http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial/template_specialization.html seems to touch on it, though I'm not sure I quite understood it. Template aren't one of my strong points |
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| 15:58.13 | alestane | I just found it in Stroustrup, and yes, it has something to do with specializations. |
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| 16:00.31 | Ackis | wtb wowinterface supporting wiki markup |
| 16:01.14 | zenzelezz | ...why? |
| 16:01.22 | zenzelezz | wiki markup makes me crings |
| 16:01.30 | Ackis | make it easier to copy and paste from wowace to wowi :P |
| 16:01.51 | ScytheBlade1 | " |
| 16:02.04 | ScytheBlade1 | " A druid quest in Un Goro that involved hitting a Devilsaur (the big one, elite) with a tranquilizer. After the tauren warns that it may not work. |
| 16:02.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, have some little kitty run up to a dinosaur and smack it with a dart, only to find out it's not filled with tranquilizer, only RAGEJUICE. " |
| 16:02.32 | Lopeppeppy | sexy |
| 16:03.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I remember that quest |
| 16:03.42 | nevcairiel | Anyone on EU got that mini patch yet? Or is it just me failing? |
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| 16:04.52 | Shirik | Ackis |
| 16:04.58 | Shirik | wtb wowace supporting BBCode |
| 16:05.07 | Ackis | it does |
| 16:05.09 | Ackis | :P |
| 16:05.12 | Shirik | then what is your problem? |
| 16:05.15 | nevcairiel | bbcode is fail though |
| 16:05.23 | Shirik | nevcairiel: I was making a point |
| 16:05.29 | Ackis | wiki is better markup/synatx than bbcode |
| 16:05.40 | Shirik | he is saying wowinterface should support wiki syntax because wowace does |
| 16:05.50 | Shirik | which is quite possibly the worst justification I've ever heard |
| 16:05.59 | zenzelezz | Ackis: better in what way? |
| 16:06.11 | Shirik | also, I can't stand wiki markup |
| 16:06.18 | zenzelezz | me neither |
| 16:06.22 | Shirik | how the hell '' means italic and ''' means bold is beyond me |
| 16:06.28 | Shirik | _ makes a little sense |
| 16:06.32 | zenzelezz | and ''''' means both |
| 16:06.39 | ScytheBlade1 | You're welcome to use <b> and <i> you know |
| 16:06.48 | Shirik | and that is better than [b] and [i] why? |
| 16:06.56 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a standard? |
| 16:07.07 | Shirik | actually I think wowi supports <b> and <i> too |
| 16:07.12 | Ackis | it's a lot easier to type, I love the fact that it supports ToC's, linking is easier |
| 16:07.14 | nevcairiel | you could use the wikicreole markup wowace uses as its primary markup now, its quite nice imho :P |
| 16:07.18 | Shirik | there should be a restricted subset of html |
| 16:07.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Markdown FTW, people. ;) |
| 16:07.29 | zenzelezz | isn't it supposed to be <strong> and <em> nowadays? |
| 16:07.37 | Shirik | yeah |
| 16:07.40 | Shirik | wtf is with that change |
| 16:07.46 | Shirik | was there ANY justification for it? |
| 16:07.52 | Shirik | or were they just like "eh, we need something different" |
| 16:07.53 | alestane | What change? |
| 16:07.57 | Shirik | <b> -> <strong> |
| 16:08.14 | zenzelezz | "strong" and "emphasis" do more spell out what you're trying to accomplish than "bold" and "italic" |
| 16:08.19 | NightHawkTheSane | because bold is a style, it belongs in a stylesheet, strong has a different connotation |
| 16:08.27 | alestane | Because <b> has no associated meaning...it defines presentation of a document without telling anything about WHY it is bold. |
| 16:08.32 | Shirik | ah |
| 16:09.12 | Shirik | I don't do HTML anyway |
| 16:09.26 | alestane | For instance, if a screen reader is reading a document out loud, it has no real way of processing "boldness", but it is easier to give it ways of handling "emphasis". |
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| 16:17.58 | Codayus | Not all wiki syntax sucks. Confluence uses a slightly extended version of Textile, which is very very nice. |
| 16:18.21 | Codayus | (Better than Markdown, IMHO, although they're pretty close.) |
| 16:19.17 | Lunessa | So make the Bad Horse gleeful or he'll make you his mare... |
| 16:20.49 | Shirik | Confluence is the next software I have to beg for |
| 16:21.58 | Codayus | Confluence is nice, especially if your not allergic to Java. |
| 16:22.11 | Codayus | Very easy to extend it if you feel the need. |
| 16:23.13 | Codayus | Plus, the admin interface is really really nice, and the syntax, as mentioned, is good. More recently I've been using tiki wiki, which has a shockingly terrible interface, and terrible syntax. :( |
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| 16:35.05 | Ackis | heh I love that I can queue downloads for my xbox online |
| 16:35.58 | alestane | Anyone have a source handy for the purpose of this little off-day patch? |
| 16:36.29 | Codayus | mmo champion - top news post |
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| 16:38.44 | alestane | So, bug fixes, bascially. |
| 16:40.25 | Kraps | Frank: Kanye was found lying face down with an MTV award shoved up his ass. Looks like he may have been killed on sight. |
| 16:40.26 | Kraps | Horatio: I guess you can say it was a bit of... |
| 16:40.29 | Kraps | -sunglasses- |
| 16:40.31 | Kraps | Horatio: Swift revenge. |
| 16:41.23 | Lunessa | YEAAAAAAAAH~! |
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| 16:44.17 | Fisker | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:44.17 | Fisker | slaps Lunessa around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:44.17 | Fisker | slaps foxlit around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:44.21 | Ackis | I don't get it |
| 16:44.24 | Kraps | i'm pretty sure csi uses it as an in-joke now, not because "omg they cant come up with something original" |
| 16:44.41 | Ackis | can you play rock band/guitar hero w/o needing the guitars? |
| 16:44.42 | Lunessa | drops a large rock on Fisker from orbit. |
| 16:45.00 | Fisker | that's stupid |
| 16:45.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Ackis: rock band, yeah, if you like drumming or singing, i guess. |
| 16:45.17 | Fisker | the rock will be destroyed by entering earth's atmosphere |
| 16:45.21 | Fisker | durr |
| 16:45.24 | Ackis | NightHawkTheSane: you can't use the controller to press the coloured buttons? |
| 16:45.42 | NightHawkTheSane | I dont think so. |
| 16:45.48 | Kraps | Fisker: not if its big enough |
| 16:46.35 | Iriel | Ackis: the game looks specifically for the guitar controller, it only gives you vocals as an option if you'reusing a standard controller |
| 16:46.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm not sure any platform's controller maps well enough to the colors used, anyway |
| 16:47.07 | Lunessa | Fisker I'm using a really, really, big rock. Shouldn't be much left of your surrounding environment. Sadly the dust/ejecta cloud will destroy plant life for hundreds of miles around you by blotting out the sun. |
| 16:47.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: so, no real loss? |
| 16:47.32 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Pretty much. ;) |
| 16:47.40 | NightHawkTheSane | high fives Lunessa |
| 16:49.49 | Fisker | yeah Kraps |
| 16:49.53 | Fisker | but it said "large" rock |
| 16:49.58 | Fisker | not "really, really, big rock" |
| 16:50.11 | NightHawkTheSane | also, Kraps: thats what she said. |
| 16:50.32 | Fisker | imma gonna fuck you up |
| 16:51.05 | NightHawkTheSane | sweet |
| 16:52.16 | Fisker | yeah you better be scared |
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| 16:54.53 | ScytheBlade1 | yay |
| 16:54.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I has a job |
| 16:57.43 | NightHawkTheSane | woo! |
| 16:58.58 | Lunessa | SBO WOOO! |
| 16:59.02 | Lunessa | Job is a good thing |
| 16:59.18 | Ackis | no Lunessa jobs suck, they're just a needed to survive :( |
| 16:59.39 | Lunessa | Ackis: Actually, if you like what you do, they don't suck. |
| 16:59.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Ackis: man, who pissed in your cheerios today |
| 17:00.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Job is a good thing |
| 17:01.17 | Ackis | NightHawkTheSane: everyone |
| 17:01.51 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: job doing what, out of curiosity? |
| 17:02.38 | Lunessa | Sbo - Celebrate, and have a beer or two! |
| 17:05.37 | foxlit | When did the death chicken get a new icon? |
| 17:07.39 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: callcenter, sadly, but it is for a pretty darn reputable company at a good rate with piles of advancement opportunity |
| 17:08.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Callcenter that has 3 weeks of training, at that |
| 17:08.57 | nevcairiel | i could never work talking to stupid people all day <.< |
| 17:09.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Me either, so we'll see! |
| 17:09.39 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:11.11 | Lunessa | All I know is - Sbo is getting a paycheck. This means he will have more money to spend on things like WoW and server space. |
| 17:11.37 | ScytheBlade1 | sighs |
| 17:11.39 | ScytheBlade1 | WoW :( |
| 17:13.33 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/bug-feature.jpg |
| 17:14.06 | Lopeppeppy | oh, is that what paychecks are for? |
| 17:14.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Mine will be used mostly for saving. |
| 17:14.54 | Lopeppeppy | congrats on the job though dear. |
| 17:15.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, thanks |
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| 17:16.09 | Lunessa | Sbo - Mine gets used mostly paying for things like rent, gas, food, electricity, and the occasional beer. |
| 17:16.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, there are upsides to living "at home" |
| 17:16.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Namely, not paying for any of those |
| 17:16.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Aside from gas |
| 17:16.57 | Seerah | entertainment? |
| 17:17.00 | Lopeppeppy | savings are good, but contributing to the house also ahs benefits |
| 17:17.05 | Lopeppeppy | "entertainment" heh. |
| 17:17.19 | Seerah | I meant doesn't he pay for entertainment? ;p |
| 17:17.33 | Lopeppeppy | "occasional beer" |
| 17:18.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Not really. Debating getting an xbox 360 though, but I still have quite a bit before I see a paycheck |
| 17:18.43 | nevcairiel | Do they still really give out paychecks, or is that just a matter of speaking these days? |
| 17:18.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Manner of speaking |
| 17:19.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It'll be direct deposit |
| 17:19.08 | Lunessa | Seerah: Cable/Internet and the occasional beer. I'm trying to pay off debt and save money so I can be a home owner in the future... So movies are pretty much right out. |
| 17:19.14 | nevcairiel | Thats what i thought |
| 17:19.27 | Seerah | who needs cable? ;) |
| 17:19.36 | Lunessa | Cable = Internet |
| 17:24.37 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Redbox |
| 17:24.53 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Occasionally. :) |
| 17:25.16 | Dagmar | I hope they countersue Blockbuster and Hollywood Video for gross stupidity |
| 17:26.11 | Dagmar | Seriously, since when is it logical to sue your competitors because they've got dramatically more efficient profit model |
| 17:26.56 | Lopeppeppy | people sue over everything |
| 17:26.59 | Duman | hmm |
| 17:27.12 | Duman | anyone have the UI diff for 3.2.2a ? |
| 17:27.20 | Seerah | have stored ever sued vending machines for pop/candy distribution? |
| 17:27.23 | foxlit | There's a .2a? |
| 17:27.25 | Seerah | *stores |
| 17:27.27 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 17:27.27 | Duman | yessir |
| 17:27.40 | Gnarfoz | not for EU? ;\ |
| 17:27.42 | foxlit | One has to wonder. |
| 17:27.54 | Duman | someone getting StaticPopup.lua errors, curious if something was changed, or is this guy's shit is broken :) |
| 17:28.17 | Duman | (he's claiming it's happening w/ no addons) |
| 17:28.31 | Lopeppeppy | his shit is broken. :) |
| 17:28.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: soon, I'm sure |
| 17:28.45 | Duman | peppy, perhaps :) |
| 17:28.45 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: weird, really weird ;o |
| 17:28.54 | Duman | (he's getting it when he tries to sell back a token-bought item) |
| 17:28.57 | Duman | but anyway |
| 17:29.03 | ScytheBlade1 | It is tiny. Like 8.something MB |
| 17:29.06 | Gnarfoz | last time I remember EU and US not being on the same version is years ago (outside of the tuesday/wednesday difference) |
| 17:29.09 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I know |
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| 17:31.57 | foxlit | They like to push those minor patches at night. |
| 17:32.22 | Dagmar | I like the new "despawn right as you start to attack" thing the faction bosses in ToC are pulling now |
| 17:32.29 | Dagmar | It's hilarious |
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| 17:35.55 | Gnarfoz | for us, they just stand up from their knocked down state and wander to the gate and then stand ready to be engaged again |
| 17:36.14 | Gnarfoz | I like despawning Thorim quite a bit more. *cough* |
| 17:36.25 | Dagmar | For us they stand there about a minute and then despawn, only to respawn about 5 seconds later |
| 17:36.30 | Gnarfoz | interesting |
| 17:36.32 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 17:36.53 | Dagmar | ...but the tank's reaction is always fun. They'll run up and everyone vaporizes, and you can watch them looook all over like "where the hell did they go?" |
| 17:37.27 | Lopeppeppy | but... but... |
| 17:37.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah. Everyone on my server simply ran out of the room instead of trying to tank it in that instant |
| 17:38.06 | Dagmar | Yeah, that's kinda lame |
| 17:38.37 | Dagmar | You could tell who sucks and who doesn't by whether or not they can dismount, requip their weapon, and keep fighting. |
| 17:39.31 | Lunessa | I've done that fight /mostly/ as a healer. The problem I've had is everyone else running out so all the champions gank me when I dismount |
| 17:40.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is why you run out first ;) |
| 17:40.20 | ScytheBlade1 | But now with the awesome that is despawning, no need |
| 17:40.35 | Dagmar | ...or demand to know when you were supposed to be told you were working with cowards |
| 17:41.12 | Lunessa | Or just suck it up and get my loot anyway and put people on the "don't group" list. |
| 17:41.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Or mention that you're running out, as not to be a jerk to the other group members |
| 17:41.45 | ScytheBlade1 | IN ANY CASE |
| 17:41.46 | ScytheBlade1 | It no longer matters |
| 17:42.01 | Lunessa | True dat. :D |
| 17:42.11 | Gnarfoz | if you don't kill the guys vaguely on the same spot, it's kind of hard for some classes to tank all 3 immediately upon dismounting before they gibt someone |
| 17:42.15 | Gnarfoz | (depending on gear, too) |
| 17:42.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, every run that I've seen had a coordinated withdrawl. |
| 17:42.28 | ScytheBlade1 | So. |
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| 17:55.34 | Lunessa | A needle pulling thread. Ti - a drink with jam and bread. |
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| 17:57.39 | Lopeppeppy | that will bring us back to do (out of order!) |
| 17:58.01 | ScytheBlade1 | http://trollshaman.blogspot.com/2009/09/how-discipline-priests-are-awesome.html |
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| 18:00.19 | Lunessa | I'm regenerating 5HP per second and there's nothing you can do about it. |
| 18:00.26 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: well, thats it then, disc priests are awesome. |
| 18:00.40 | ScytheBlade1 | So it would seem |
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| 18:05.46 | Aelobin | how many tanks are needed for toc25 :S |
| 18:06.22 | Kraps | this is one one of the better hitler vid translations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUuEfoqX2vk&feature=related |
| 18:06.29 | Dagmar | 3-5 |
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| 18:16.27 | Lunessa | I've been doing tech support too long - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20133925133&sid=1 |
| 18:17.16 | Lopeppeppy | loves Lunessa |
| 18:17.43 | Lunessa | :D |
| 18:18.50 | Fisker | slaps Lunessa around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:19.17 | Lunessa | sends the Mole Men to Fisker's house. |
| 18:19.21 | Fisker | you assume to much |
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| 18:21.14 | Lunessa | Mole Men don't care about your surface-dwelling ways. They seek only to rend and destroy - and steal your XBox or women. |
| 18:21.58 | NightHawkTheSane | ... not my xbox! |
| 18:22.11 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, i dont have an xbox. nevermind, we're cool. |
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| 18:22.56 | Lopeppeppy | I have neither, I'm spiffy |
| 18:23.22 | Zhinjio | do I get to pick which one I get to keep? |
| 18:23.36 | Dagmar | Tehy have a use for broken xboxes down there? |
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| 18:24.18 | NightHawkTheSane | mole men have learned the secret of fixing the rrod. |
| 18:24.22 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Mole Men would steal you. |
| 18:26.03 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, boring peppy is not for mole men |
| 18:26.53 | zenzelezz | "Announcing Winzip 14 beta"... and I'm still using Winzip 9 |
| 18:27.02 | zenzelezz | I used to be all up to date |
| 18:27.23 | Dagmar | They need to stop jerking people around |
| 18:27.52 | Lopeppeppy | I use 7zip |
| 18:28.02 | Dagmar | Someone over there changes the placement of a comma in the damn thing, and marketing says "WE NEED A RELEASE!" in order to get that stupid freaking solicitation about eMusic in front of you AGAIN |
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| 18:28.25 | Dagmar | The epitomize wasteful update policies. |
| 18:28.29 | Dagmar | s/The/They/; |
| 18:28.33 | NightHawkTheSane | have there really been enough changes in how to zip and unzip files that they need 14 fucking releases? |
| 18:28.41 | foxlit | Hm. |
| 18:28.48 | Dagmar | Oh, I misread |
| 18:28.53 | Dagmar | I thought you were talking about Winamp |
| 18:29.02 | foxlit | Did they fix the teleport out of Horde's dalaran inn, or do I fail more than usual? |
| 18:29.13 | Dagmar | Winzip has had about that many serious changes, but I suspect they've inflated the number a little for giggles |
| 18:29.13 | NightHawkTheSane | can it be both? ;) |
| 18:29.35 | foxlit | No. |
| 18:29.50 | Dagmar | That having been said, screw 'em. Use 7zip |
| 18:30.42 | Lunessa | Heh, I bought a WinZip license in '98 and they /still/ give me free upgrades. But I've moved on to 7zip anyway |
| 18:31.36 | kdtresh | does winzip actually do compression anymore? i thought they had devolved into annoying system tray lurking and "buy full version" popups |
| 18:32.14 | Dagmar | THey do, they're just the least useful utility for that now |
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| 18:33.00 | kdtresh | like the napster of compression utilities? |
| 18:33.28 | Dagmar | ...except with all the recordings being stuck at 128mbps CBR because the devs are convinced it's as good as people need |
| 18:33.33 | ccox | http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/09/dust_storm_in_australia.html |
| 18:33.44 | Dagmar | s/mb/bp/; |
| 18:35.25 | Dagmar | Well, if you guys would clean every once in awhile... |
| 18:36.56 | kdtresh | shoulda used a swiffer |
| 18:37.09 | Lopeppeppy | wetjet |
| 18:37.15 | NightHawkTheSane | swiffer, i hardly know her. |
| 18:37.41 | kdtresh | http://instantrimshot.com/ |
| 18:37.41 | Dagmar | They need to make those with a bit more polish |
| 18:37.49 | Dagmar | It'll keep me from using Pledge on the floor |
| 18:38.03 | Dagmar | ...and eventually killing someone |
| 18:38.24 | Dagmar | Furniture polish really gets floors nice and shiny, but you don't want to walk on that |
| 18:40.11 | NightHawkTheSane | unless you actually ARE trying to kill someone |
| 18:40.35 | Dagmar | Well, it's given me practice with my katas |
| 18:40.54 | Dagmar | Gotta walk around the damn place in horse stance if I've got anything less grippy than cross-trainers on |
| 18:41.20 | NightHawkTheSane | psh. sounds like run and slide time to me |
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| 18:45.02 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: This assumes there's somewhere not slippery to run on |
| 18:45.14 | NightHawkTheSane | touche... |
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| 18:45.27 | NightHawkTheSane | (how do you type high ascii characters on linux anyway..) |
| 18:45.36 | Dagmar | Generally, you don't. |
| 18:45.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ... that seems painful |
| 18:45.59 | Dagmar | How often do you need to type box art characters? |
| 18:46.24 | Dagmar | These are things you define with chr() or similar |
| 18:46.49 | Dagmar | ..mainly because you've got no concrete guarantee what they're going to look like on someone else's terminal |
| 18:47.46 | Arrowmaster | you can use the alt and the numpad just like in windows |
| 18:47.53 | NightHawkTheSane | well, mostly i care about diacritics |
| 18:48.17 | Arrowmaster | oh set a compose key |
| 18:48.53 | Arrowmaster | i have my system just set to 'pc104' 'us' 'altgr-intl' |
| 18:50.06 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Most folks who need those have 'em on the keyboard afaik |
| 18:50.15 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 18:50.26 | Arrowmaster | us english keyboard is the most commonly used keyboard |
| 18:50.41 | Dagmar | Of course, we make 'em |
| 18:50.48 | Dagmar | ...but I've typed on furrin' keyboards before |
| 18:50.51 | Arrowmaster | even in a lot of countries that use more than just A-Z |
| 18:52.10 | Dagmar | Either way, avoid "high ascii" for text |
| 18:53.10 | NightHawkTheSane | I usually do |
| 18:53.15 | NightHawkTheSane | but I was curious. |
| 18:56.05 | Lopeppeppy | curioity kills the cats |
| 18:56.36 | JonOC1 | eh, cats have 9 lives, they can afford to lose one or two |
| 18:56.36 | Dagmar | It's a shame it can't kill anyone at Freenode |
| 18:56.44 | Dagmar | I stay connected for _weeks_ at a time |
| 18:57.01 | Dagmar | There's no reason I should see them scanning my stuff for common vulnerabilities repeatedly |
| 18:59.25 | Dagmar | Finally getting around to culling false positives from my logs, and 64.38.192.0/18 might as well be some russian blackhat network for as often as it makes detailed scans here |
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| 19:07.09 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/box/DSC00079.JPG << How could they not see that coming? |
| 19:12.39 | Arrowmaster | this flash video is showing me 'NaN:NaN / 0:00' on the timer |
| 19:13.50 | Lunessa | Screw Flash video - I'm rolling with Saget |
| 19:14.09 | Arrowmaster | gametrailers.com videos with the age check dont seem to like the linux 64bit flash plugin |
| 19:14.26 | Arrowmaster | a lot of things dont seem to like the linux 64bit flash plugin |
| 19:15.00 | foxlit | (a) "Linux" (b) "64-bit" (c) "Flash" |
| 19:15.05 | foxlit | What could possibly go wrong? |
| 19:15.24 | Dagmar | You could be subjected to flash ads |
| 19:15.25 | ScytheBlade1 | er? like? |
| 19:15.28 | ScytheBlade1 | as in perform well? |
| 19:15.48 | Dagmar | "CONGRTULATIONS! YOU'VE JUST WON A FREE IPOD NANO!" |
| 19:16.24 | Dagmar | Believe me, if I could make that flash in convulsion-inducing colors I would |
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| 19:17.57 | foxlit | ScytheBlade1: My joking point was that none of those three have any expectation of working correctly. |
| 19:18.10 | foxlit | I'm not sure why going to 64-bit would solve flash's performance woes. |
| 19:19.44 | Dagmar | You'd be wrong about most of it then |
| 19:19.52 | Dagmar | Linux and 64-bit is no problem |
| 19:21.13 | Dagmar | The only issue there is that it's taken ages to work out how to gracefully handle when someone throws a 32-bit binary in there |
| 19:21.31 | Dagmar | ...which will probably play out just like the old iBCS module. Eventually, people will stop doing that dumb stuff. |
| 19:22.51 | Lunessa | Eventually we'll move away from 32-bit architecture entirely. But the move is likely to take another 10 years. |
| 19:22.55 | nevcairiel | multilib systems ftw :) |
| 19:23.15 | Dagmar | See iBCS was cool because it let you run say, Solaris or HP binaries |
| 19:23.29 | Dagmar | Of course, eventually people realized they were running HPUX and Solaris/Sun binaries |
| 19:23.41 | Dagmar | ...oh and of course the occasional SCO user |
| 19:23.54 | foxlit | I wouldn't be looking for factual correctness in tongue-in-cheek remarks :) |
| 19:24.25 | Dagmar | Lunessa: the sad thing is that long before 10 years is up almost all of those 32-bit CPUs will have died |
| 19:24.55 | nevcairiel | I still use comps around here that are older then 10 years now |
| 19:25.04 | nevcairiel | Just had a 13 year old harddrive die last week .P |
| 19:25.09 | foxlit | And software that's even older, of course. |
| 19:25.33 | Dagmar | You realize the POS terminals at McDonalds run on newer equipment than that. right? |
| 19:25.44 | Lunessa | Dagmar: There's a ton of content out there designed around 32-bit systems. Look at how many people get ticked off that their uber-box won't run some game from 10 years ago (full throttle anyone) well. |
| 19:25.54 | Dagmar | The TN DMV runs on newer equipment than that, and they just started getting rid of the dot matrix printers |
| 19:26.32 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Hence, emulatros |
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| 19:26.47 | nevcairiel | I still have a dot-matrix printer around somewhere :D |
| 19:26.47 | Dagmar | Oh yes, and the copy YOU bought was meant to run on a 32-bit OS |
| 19:26.53 | Dagmar | If you want to run it on some other OS you have to buy it again |
| 19:26.57 | Lunessa | dot-matrix printers are still good for NCR paper. |
| 19:26.58 | Dagmar | Otherwise you're a nasty pirate |
| 19:26.58 | nevcairiel | even works, still |
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| 19:27.40 | Dagmar | Actually in 10 years time we'll probably have that worked out well enough for games |
| 19:27.41 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Actually, I never bought the game, it's just the one I still recall the mountain of complaints about. |
| 19:28.03 | Dagmar | Man Omikron didn't even work on XP that came out like two years after it was released |
| 19:28.11 | Arrowmaster | i still have a dot-matrix printer that gets used every week |
| 19:28.32 | Dagmar | ...and you may remember that Microsoft was swearing up and down that DirectX was there to save us from games suddenly stopping working |
| 19:28.38 | Dagmar | Clearly, that's worked out well |
| 19:28.50 | Dagmar | Now we have two whole new kinds of compatibility problems |
| 19:28.56 | zenzelezz | Windows won't run my Death Rally :( |
| 19:29.14 | zenzelezz | sure, it's an ancient DOS game, but fix! |
| 19:29.40 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: The only thing I use my dot-matrix printers for is basically fraud |
| 19:29.40 | NightHawkTheSane | that reminds me, i wonder if anyone compiled a version of angband for intel macs. |
| 19:29.44 | Dagmar | Well, not fraud per-se but making fake reciepts and bills for entertainment purposes |
| 19:30.01 | nevcairiel | fraud for entertainment is still fraud :P |
| 19:30.16 | Dagmar | If someone takes one of these reciepts for a clue back to wal-mart, hopefully they'll just get slapped around until they recover their senses |
| 19:31.06 | Dagmar | nevcairiel: Giving someone a clue is a gift, right? |
| 19:31.13 | Dagmar | You should be able to have a gift reciept |
| 19:31.46 | Dagmar | ...plus there's the issue of taxability, and being required to report recieving gifts from people. |
| 19:32.02 | zenzelezz | my brother actually got a snail-mail scam letter from Switzerland last week |
| 19:32.17 | Dagmar | WEow |
| 19:32.23 | nevcairiel | international snail mail scam? |
| 19:32.25 | nevcairiel | thats a new one |
| 19:32.37 | zenzelezz | apparently some member of a "multi-millionaire club" had picked him saying "this guy needs my help!" |
| 19:32.48 | zenzelezz | quite funny |
| 19:33.00 | Dagmar | Might be someone having a laugh |
| 19:33.18 | zenzelezz | yeah, could be |
| 19:33.19 | Dagmar | Like, that's exactly the sort of thing I might do if I coudl find a good way to make it look like mail came from that far away |
| 19:33.37 | Dagmar | ...just to ping someone and find out if they've got enough of a sense of humor to send back a letter saying "SO SEND ME THE MONEY" |
| 19:34.20 | Arrowmaster | i need to find my friend and tell him i want my 360 back |
| 19:35.06 | Arrowmaster | what the, theres a blue pickup parked where his gray pickup usually is |
| 19:35.19 | nevcairiel | he traded the 360 for a new pickup :) |
| 19:35.22 | nevcairiel | .. or new color |
| 19:35.44 | zenzelezz | Arrowmaster: he's played too much GTA; he thought if he painted his car you'd forget he had taken your console |
| 19:35.45 | Arrowmaster | hes suppost to have bought a new 360 arcade by now to replace his dead one |
| 19:35.54 | Dagmar | It was a Ford, right? |
| 19:36.13 | Arrowmaster | dodge i think |
| 19:36.59 | Dagmar | Witha 54% failure rate it's only a matter of time |
| 19:37.38 | Arrowmaster | my 360 is a release day version that came with the remote, its still working fine |
| 19:38.15 | Dagmar | That's actually pretty cool |
| 19:38.36 | Dagmar | A guy I know started repairing them, and it's literally become a second job for him now |
| 19:38.52 | nicoli_s | my first one died like 3 days after i got it |
| 19:39.03 | nicoli_s | but that was probably because i lived in a house with no ac in the south |
| 19:42.09 | Ackis | my 360 is sex |
| 19:42.13 | Ackis | I call it my sexbox |
| 19:42.28 | Ackis | well not really but it sounded like a good story |
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| 19:42.43 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 19:42.45 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Ackis |
| 19:42.45 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Ackis. I hate you because you fail. |
| 19:42.57 | Shirik | .aj |
| 19:43.00 | Ackis | you just hate me because I have a sexbox nad you don't |
| 19:43.23 | Thunder_Child | a broken redring sexbox? |
| 19:43.27 | Thunder_Child | not really |
| 19:45.15 | msoul | Does Skada reset damage meter after you start with the second boss or it store it somewhere cause i don't see the boss we did just the one we're at |
| 19:45.19 | Ackis | no red rings |
| 19:45.26 | Ackis | although my cats knocked it on the ground once already |
| 19:45.27 | Ackis | bastard |
| 19:45.28 | Ackis | s |
| 19:45.35 | nicoli_s | lol i call mine the sexbox too |
| 19:45.43 | nicoli_s | its my sexbox and her name is sony |
| 19:45.55 | Ackis | sony == the devil |
| 19:46.03 | Ackis | a ps3 probably installs a rootkit in your home |
| 19:46.07 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 19:46.12 | JonOC1 | Msoul:it chops them up by fight |
| 19:46.20 | Dagmar | Nah, mainly it just installs a virtual mall |
| 19:46.25 | nicoli_s | i had a ps2 and loved it till it fell over when standing up straight and it never worked again |
| 19:46.34 | *** join/#wowuidev Caleb| (n=caleb@dsl4E5C036B.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 19:46.43 | Dagmar | ...because you know everyone wants a multiplayer shopping simulator. |
| 19:49.07 | Lopeppeppy | barbie! |
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| 19:53.07 | Arrowmaster | i kick ass at the the little pond saucer game outside the ps3 mall! |
| 19:53.39 | Dagmar | heh |
| 19:54.00 | Arrowmaster | ive been in the ps3 sewers too |
| 19:54.28 | Dagmar | There's sewers? |
| 19:54.38 | Dagmar | Must have been a special event sort of thing |
| 19:54.56 | Arrowmaster | used to be an alpha testing area but they opened it up to everybody |
| 19:55.13 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 19:55.19 | Dagmar | I've not even turned mine on since the 3.0 update |
| 19:55.38 | Arrowmaster | this was sometime before the 3.0 update |
| 19:57.09 | Iriel | I turned mine on last night, installed the update, tried to find something to do, then turned it off again |
| 19:58.52 | msoul | JonOC sorry was afk |
| 19:58.54 | Dagmar | I generally have better things to do than to watch ten-year-old kids try to pretend that they're gangsters in real life |
| 19:59.08 | Ackis | I just found a youtube playlist called "baby death videos" ... |
| 19:59.15 | ScytheBlade1 | .................. |
| 19:59.24 | msoul | jonoc there is no way i can get the data for the previous one unless i do click on keep option |
| 19:59.37 | msoul | and pvp rocks! |
| 19:59.51 | Ackis | ScytheBlade1: fyi the video I was watching was a memorial/inspirational message about a child who should have died in the womb but lived for 99 days |
| 20:00.13 | JonOC1 | Msoul: let me log into the game and check how its done... i can't remember off the top of my head |
| 20:00.13 | Lunessa | I have trouble imagining you playing console games Iriel. |
| 20:00.40 | Iriel | Lunessa: I play some kinds of console games, but not others. |
| 20:00.41 | msoul | Jonoc fair enough =) |
| 20:00.56 | Iriel | Lunessa: I just picked up Halo:ODST in fact, it looks promising |
| 20:01.21 | Iriel | (The PS3 however is primarily a Blu-ray player) |
| 20:01.27 | Lunessa | My problem with consoles was practically everything was some version of Street Slighter or Mortal Wombat. |
| 20:01.52 | Lunessa | But I'll admit ODST looks kind of interesting. |
| 20:01.52 | msoul | my ps3 is collecting dust atm |
| 20:01.56 | Iriel | Though I'll admit to having lost a couple of weekends to Little Big Planet's editor |
| 20:02.06 | Ackis | zomg Iriel what's your xbox name!!! i need moar friends |
| 20:02.12 | msoul | they're not going to release some maps on the ps3 version of modern warfare 2 |
| 20:02.20 | Iriel | Ackis: you terrify me, so for now i'll not say 8-) |
| 20:02.37 | Ackis | eek |
| 20:02.38 | Dagmar | ...because platform exclusives are great for everybody |
| 20:02.47 | Ackis | numberofgreensiterrify++ |
| 20:02.58 | Lunessa | I don't have a console anymore. I mostly used my PS2 to play D&D spin-offs and the Looney Toons racing game. |
| 20:03.15 | msoul | i barely touch my consoles.... |
| 20:03.21 | msoul | just waiting for modern warfare 2 |
| 20:03.27 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, have any suggestions on asian syle cinematic scores with a fast beat? |
| 20:03.34 | Arrowmaster | i have a copy of ODST sitting next to me but no 360 to play it on atm |
| 20:03.34 | Iriel | I have a slight rock band compulsion also. |
| 20:03.41 | JonOC1 | Msoul: ok, if you right click the window title once it allows you to pick a mode, if you right click it again it allows you to pick a fight, then you pick the mode of that fight you want to see |
| 20:03.53 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: and a mini-diff! |
| 20:03.55 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: Hm, none that come to mind right now. |
| 20:04.00 | kd3 | yar |
| 20:04.06 | msoul | Jonoc: Aw sec let me heck it |
| 20:04.08 | msoul | check |
| 20:04.13 | Lunessa | It prefer MMOs and turn-based 'strategy' games like Civ - so there's not a lot in the console space aimed at me. |
| 20:04.16 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, at the rate i am striking none ever will....i have not found a single one |
| 20:04.31 | msoul | jonoc it shows either total or current fight |
| 20:04.33 | Thunder_Child | s/none/out one/ |
| 20:04.36 | Lopeppeppy | I like hulu. I'm so short on brainpoer this week |
| 20:04.43 | Thunder_Child | nver* |
| 20:04.45 | Thunder_Child | never* |
| 20:04.49 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: I wonder if there's anything sort of Cirque du Soleil-ish that fits the bill in part? |
| 20:04.49 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 20:04.56 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: Horking a firend's 360 is probably a hanging offense in your part of the world... |
| 20:05.06 | Lopeppeppy | cirque ha interesting music. |
| 20:05.13 | Ackis | has anyone tried civ revolutions on xbox? |
| 20:05.17 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, hmm...i'll check |
| 20:05.19 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: the friend with a 360 has my 360 |
| 20:05.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Someome buy me a 360 |
| 20:05.31 | Lopeppeppy | i want a wii |
| 20:05.35 | Lopeppeppy | and a tv to use it with |
| 20:05.38 | Lunessa | and hangin's to good fer 'im. |
| 20:05.39 | JonOC1 | msoul: I have mine set to not erase data, which means I can few fights from yesterday if i want, it also runs wither im in a group or not |
| 20:05.39 | Iriel | The wii is a gimmicky toy |
| 20:05.47 | Ackis | Wii is annoying |
| 20:05.47 | Iriel | I'm frankly very disappointed in it |
| 20:05.55 | msoul | jonoc: ohh where do you see that erasing data option |
| 20:06.22 | Lunessa | Oh, and I played a lot of Rez on my PS-2 - I'd play something like that if newer consoles had it. |
| 20:06.30 | msoul | jonoc i hope it wipes everything when i reset even if i have the option to keep everything |
| 20:06.36 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: Rez HD on 360 |
| 20:06.38 | msoul | checking again |
| 20:06.44 | Iriel | What Arrowmaster just said |
| 20:06.44 | Dagmar | You got that extra peripheral for it, did you? |
| 20:06.45 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: Tempting. |
| 20:06.51 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: with 4 controller support |
| 20:06.58 | Dagmar | Now that's just kinky |
| 20:07.02 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 20:07.03 | Lunessa | Dagmar: No, I didn't. I read all about the controller though. |
| 20:07.04 | JonOC1 | Msoul:under interface>addons>skada> data resets |
| 20:07.20 | Iriel | For anyone who likes gears n stuff: http://www.cheeseplant.org/~daniel/images/MechanicalMaw.jpg |
| 20:07.28 | Lopeppeppy | I really want the old ascii Rogue game right now. |
| 20:07.37 | Iriel | Lopeppeppy: just download it? 8-) |
| 20:07.39 | Lopeppeppy | Iriel, that is a wonderful, wonderful picture! |
| 20:07.43 | msoul | jonoc yeah three options reset on entering, reet on joining a grp and leaving |
| 20:07.45 | Arrowmaster | Lopeppeppy: nethack? |
| 20:07.46 | Iriel | Lopeppeppy: or better yet, get an angband variant |
| 20:07.48 | Lopeppeppy | I'm going looking for it right now, actually.... :) |
| 20:07.50 | Lunessa | I'm shocked some Second Life sex-tech guys haven't developed the Wii-sex-mote yet. |
| 20:07.53 | msoul | jonoc: mine is no/ask/no |
| 20:07.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: i can almost guarantee someone has a build that will work for you :P |
| 20:08.02 | NightHawkTheSane | rogue/moria/angband is disturbingly popular |
| 20:08.03 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Because users are already doing it |
| 20:08.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Iriel: that's an awesome picture :) |
| 20:08.15 | Lopeppeppy | Moria! :) |
| 20:08.33 | Lunessa | Is that a punch-card press? |
| 20:08.38 | Arrowmaster | i was tempted to use my free XNA subscription to try and compile nethack for 360 |
| 20:08.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: actually, check out Quickband, angband designed for couple-hour full games ;) |
| 20:08.55 | JonOC1 | msoul: ok, it should be fine then, are you using one profile across all toons? or not, also you may need/want to check general settings and when it should collect data and if it should collect while hidden |
| 20:09.13 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I'm ashamed to admit - the development process for such devices intrigues me. |
| 20:09.52 | Dagmar | Lunessa: This is because you're not dead inside dur to self-loathing. |
| 20:09.59 | Dagmar | s/dur/due/; |
| 20:10.02 | msoul | jonoc: all profiles, and yeah uner general option there is only keep boss fights wonder if it stores it or it does wipe it when i reset it |
| 20:10.21 | Lunessa | Dagmar: No, my self-loathing and disgust still manage to be personally relevant. |
| 20:10.23 | msoul | under |
| 20:10.26 | JonOC1 | msoul: i dont think i did much beyond the default settings, I ahve mine toggle threat while in combat... makes it easy to not have to check... Probably wipes it when it resets, mine is set to only reset manually |
| 20:10.32 | Lopeppeppy | thanks, nhts, I'll try tha tone too. |
| 20:10.33 | *** join/#wowuidev DWSR (n=brandonm@24.114.252.238) |
| 20:10.49 | JonOC1 | msoul:i can actually check data on a fight from another toon |
| 20:10.52 | Dagmar | ...but not enough to make you like the conservatives on the planet who probably cry about non-procreative sex being "dirty |
| 20:10.57 | Dagmar | " |
| 20:11.15 | DWSR | Dagmar: :o |
| 20:11.17 | msoul | jonoc: yeah default settings is what i am having... installed it earlier today |
| 20:11.19 | DWSR | SEX IS AWFUL |
| 20:11.31 | msoul | jonoc liking it so far just need to get to use it |
| 20:11.33 | msoul | =) |
| 20:11.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Iriel: hope you dont mind but i just made that picture my wallpaper :) |
| 20:11.56 | NeoTron | ahaha |
| 20:11.58 | Iriel | NightHawkTheSane: That's why I take them 8-) It's my main monitor wallpaper already |
| 20:11.58 | JonOC1 | msoul: yeah, you will notice that it will differ from recount data a little, but seems to sync well with other skada users |
| 20:12.06 | NightHawkTheSane | nice :) |
| 20:12.07 | msoul | jonoc: i do it manually when i tank to check threat |
| 20:12.11 | NeoTron | DWSR: "SEX IS AWFUL" msoul: " |
| 20:12.12 | JonOC1 | dwar: sex is not bad, when you get some |
| 20:12.16 | NeoTron | liking it so far just need to get to use it" |
| 20:12.17 | DWSR | NeoTron: Yeah, I know. |
| 20:12.20 | DWSR | That was awesome |
| 20:12.23 | msoul | joncoc: it does look neat |
| 20:12.23 | NeoTron | win |
| 20:12.38 | NeoTron | I fail to quote but alas |
| 20:12.45 | JonOC1 | yes you do |
| 20:12.57 | DWSR | Can anyone tell me how to sync Recount across raid members? |
| 20:13.06 | Arrowmaster | recount doesnt sync |
| 20:13.10 | NeoTron | that really isn't needed |
| 20:13.16 | Dagmar | You yell "UPGRADE YOUR ADDONS, NEWBS" |
| 20:13.22 | JonOC1 | msoul: i use recount on my tank and healer cause they are usually leading raids, but my dps'er use skada for the footprint |
| 20:13.44 | JonOC1 | arrowmaster: it used to... when did they remove it? |
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| 20:13.58 | Arrowmaster | 2.4 |
| 20:14.01 | DWSR | NeoTron: Fights like Flame Leviathan or Razorscale, my data differs significantly from others, mostly due to range issues, I think. |
| 20:14.08 | JonOC1 | sadpanda |
| 20:14.09 | msoul | jonoc1: aw... i installed skada earlier checking it since need to get to use it... tanked with it had to toggle it to threat and dps |
| 20:14.20 | NightHawkTheSane | JonOC1: when they made the combat log parse anything you can see |
| 20:14.27 | msoul | did vh just to see if i can check the boss fights after but it seems to reset the ones we're done with |
| 20:14.31 | Dagmar | DWSR: You must reset it after you leave the vehicles. |
| 20:14.44 | msoul | will find out or keep things the way they are |
| 20:14.51 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: does anyohne really look at recount on leviathan fights? :P |
| 20:14.52 | JonOC1 | msoul: strange... |
| 20:15.02 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean, i do for shits and giggles... |
| 20:15.04 | DWSR | NHTS: Yes. :) |
| 20:15.14 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: People who don't know that it doesn't report a lot of stuff to you during those do |
| 20:15.28 | Legorol | Dagmar: it does report hell of a lot |
| 20:15.36 | msoul | jonoc: yeah did Vh all i see is azore and captain |
| 20:15.38 | Legorol | you can break the fight down per vehicle, and it says which vehicle is driven by who |
| 20:15.43 | msoul | couldn't find ekrem |
| 20:15.49 | DWSR | Yeah, it is useful, still. |
| 20:15.50 | Legorol | so you can check if your demolisher drivers are dps-ing well enough |
| 20:15.53 | Dagmar | It can't be reporting everything for Recount correctly. |
| 20:15.57 | Legorol | or failing on keeping their stack up |
| 20:16.01 | Dagmar | Either that or I'm a freaking GOD on those motorcycles |
| 20:16.15 | Legorol | are you filtering things correctly in recount? |
| 20:16.26 | Legorol | when i look at a fight, i see what i expect: demo drivers miles above everyone else |
| 20:16.27 | JonOC1 | msoul: ok, I'm not sure what went wrong as I never run into that issue with skada |
| 20:16.34 | Dagmar | The last time I was in there after FL Recount was ahowing that I did TEN TIMES more damage than any two people in the raid |
| 20:16.45 | Dagmar | ...on the motorcycle. |
| 20:16.57 | Legorol | Dagmar: make sure you look at data broken down per fight, and you separate player dps from vehicle dps |
| 20:17.14 | Iriel | Lunessa: It's the first printing calculator (in the london science museum) |
| 20:17.20 | msoul | JonOC: LFG to do toc5 to be sure whether it resets the fights or not |
| 20:17.22 | Legorol | you want to unmerge pet from player, not display player data, and display pet data |
| 20:17.26 | msoul | once you start with the new one |
| 20:17.37 | Dagmar | Legorol: The defaults don't work? |
| 20:17.47 | Legorol | what defaults? |
| 20:17.57 | Iriel | Lunessa: (seen end-on) |
| 20:18.03 | DWSR | Dagmar: It's not reporting it properly, probably because you're not in range of the other vehicles for combat reporting. |
| 20:18.04 | Dagmar | The default settings Recount comes with |
| 20:18.05 | Legorol | the default settings are completely inadequate for a vehicle fight imo |
| 20:18.09 | msoul | jonoc the toggle window option is it for "threat/total/healing etc" ? |
| 20:18.12 | Dagmar | DWSR: Exactly what I was thinking |
| 20:18.20 | Legorol | that can very well be as well |
| 20:18.25 | Dagmar | There's not much point in bothering with Recount during FL and so on |
| 20:18.28 | Legorol | dunno if there is still a combatlog range setting, i thought they removed that |
| 20:18.31 | JonOC1 | msoul: I have mine toggle between threat and dps based on combat |
| 20:18.38 | msoul | aw |
| 20:18.41 | Legorol | Dagmar: of course there is, we can yell at the dremo driver that's poor |
| 20:18.46 | Legorol | we can tell who are good at keeping their stack up |
| 20:18.57 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 20:18.58 | Legorol | important for 4 towers |
| 20:19.01 | DWSR | Yep |
| 20:19.10 | JonOC1 | ok, guys, its time for work... have fun |
| 20:19.15 | DWSR | Regardless of how good your gear is, 4tower hard mode is still hard. |
| 20:19.26 | msoul | jonoc i gotta check how it is done later.. thanks |
| 20:19.33 | Dagmar | That's why it's called "hard mode" and not merely "25-man" mode |
| 20:19.58 | DWSR | JonOC1: How is the threat meter compared to Omen in terms of functionality? I'm going to assume that they are both accurate since Blizzard now has a threat api. |
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| 20:23.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar, DWSR: One issue with Recount & FL is that recount doesn't seem to correctly show damage for a vehicle if the vehicle's owner didn't do any damage themselves. |
| 20:23.57 | NightHawkTheSane | so unless you set it to display pet & player data separately, it'll not show data for a LOT of people |
| 20:24.25 | Legorol | NightHawkTheSane: that's one of the several reasons why you unmerge player and pet dat |
| 20:24.26 | Legorol | *data |
| 20:24.32 | NightHawkTheSane | range isn't really an issue on that fight, i've noticed |
| 20:24.34 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Being that I am a hunter and it wouldn't show anything correctly if I didn't have that set already, I'm not buying it as the cause of the inaccuracy |
| 20:24.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: agreed |
| 20:24.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: *shrug* im not saying its the ONLY cause, its just one big one I noticed on FL specifically |
| 20:25.12 | Legorol | but that's only applicable if you use the default settings |
| 20:25.16 | DWSR | hmm, I always have my pet data merged merely because I don't care what the seperated DPS of hunters/locks are. |
| 20:25.21 | DWSR | Only what the total DPS they do is. |
| 20:25.27 | Legorol | and anyone who tries to analyse a vehicle fight with default settings is just doing it wrong |
| 20:25.35 | Legorol | i got used to fiddling recount with vehicles on Malygos |
| 20:25.36 | NightHawkTheSane | i toggle it on and off depending on what i want to look at |
| 20:25.43 | Dagmar | Most hunters would look like idiots if the pet damage wasn't figured in |
| 20:25.47 | DWSR | yeah, I'll have to putz around with skada and recountwhen I get back |
| 20:25.55 | DWSR | Dagmar: You're obviously a BM hunter. ;) |
| 20:25.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: yeah, maly/fl were two fights that caused me to start fiddling with that |
| 20:26.03 | Dagmar | No, I *am* a BM hunter |
| 20:26.21 | Dagmar | I know quite well my pet is doing 700-1000 dps |
| 20:26.30 | Legorol | what NightHawkTheSane said, it's not like it's hard to change the settings, just two clicks |
| 20:26.36 | Legorol | so i toggle it depending on what i want to look at |
| 20:26.50 | Iriel | And then for total randomness: http://www.cheeseplant.org/~daniel/images/TmmWtf.jpg |
| 20:27.01 | DWSR | Dagmar: Yeah, I know that my imp does 250 DPS, but not having him out causes me to drop more like 500 or 600 DPS, thanks to the talents for him. |
| 20:27.05 | Legorol | the URL seems random enough, Iriel :) |
| 20:27.12 | DWSR | Iriel: The correct phrase is "And now for something completely different" |
| 20:27.19 | DWSR | But then again, you wouldn't know where that's from. |
| 20:27.23 | mikma | iriel: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Birkenau_gate.JPG |
| 20:27.44 | Iriel | DWSR: You presumably dont know my age nor my place of birth |
| 20:27.44 | NightHawkTheSane | hah, nice pic |
| 20:28.20 | mikma | 16, and russia |
| 20:28.24 | Legorol | rofl |
| 20:28.27 | DWSR | Iriel: I look at it like this: If you had known about the infamy of such a phrase, you would have used it. |
| 20:28.33 | DWSR | and btw, 16/f/cali :P |
| 20:28.39 | Legorol | Also, Iriel is female IRL. True story. |
| 20:28.46 | Legorol | just as true as the sky is pink |
| 20:28.54 | Lopeppeppy | Iriel is Lopeppeppy IRL. True story. |
| 20:28.59 | Lopeppeppy | So is Legorol! |
| 20:29.04 | mikma | lopeppeppy is. |
| 20:29.55 | DWSR | Story is true IRL. True story. |
| 20:29.55 | Iriel | wrong decade / wrong gender / wrong continent |
| 20:29.55 | Legorol | lies Lopeppeppy, if it was true, i'd have to be a comple schizo talking to you |
| 20:29.55 | DWSR | Iriel: le sigh. Another internet joke. |
| 20:29.55 | Legorol | oh wait, i *am* a schizo |
| 20:29.55 | DWSR | 16/f/cali dates back to the days of AOL. |
| 20:29.56 | Iriel | And I have all of the monty python series on DVD, i'm more a fan of The Larch than now for something completely different 8-) |
| 20:30.05 | DWSR | Iriel: I loved the flying circus, and they used that extensively in that series. |
| 20:30.56 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, Legorol |
| 20:31.18 | Legorol | Lopeppeppy: what number am I thinking of? |
| 20:31.22 | DWSR | anyway, bbl |
| 20:31.29 | Legorol | (ie. can the right hand work without the left?) |
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| 20:34.05 | Lunessa | Iriel: That's very cool. Thanks for sharing. |
| 20:34.25 | Lopeppeppy | 5 |
| 20:34.32 | mikma | i have all the I-Man's on xbox! |
| 20:34.45 | mikma | and, Futurama. and Deadliest Catch, and ... |
| 20:35.47 | Lunessa | I'm afraid that's not good enough. There should be a giant red label that reads, "WARNING: Lark's Vomit!" |
| 20:36.38 | Lopeppeppy | ... |
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| 20:37.28 | Ackis | wots an i-man? |
| 20:37.52 | mikma | invisible man, two seasons |
| 20:38.31 | mikma | http://www.tv.com/the-invisible-man/show/2693/summary.html?q=invisible%20man&tag=search_results;title;1 |
| 20:40.12 | mikma | i think i'm the only one liking that series, really. |
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| 20:44.05 | mikma | heh, Dexter season 4 looks nice |
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| 20:45.42 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6uLfermPU |
| 20:46.11 | Lopeppeppy | frog! |
| 20:46.31 | Ackis | http://kokugamer.com/2009/09/24/top-10-gaming-commercials/ |
| 20:47.23 | Lopeppeppy | if we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy, would it |
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| 20:48.18 | Ackis | mikma: when does dexter season 4 start? |
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| 20:50.32 | mikma | ackis: |
| 20:50.32 | mikma | ackis: Season Premiere Sunday |
| 20:50.33 | mikma | 9P ET/PT SHO (Promoted) |
| 20:50.37 | mikma | whoa, what was that :D |
| 20:50.49 | Ackis | ty |
| 20:51.17 | mikma | Season 4, Episode 1 . Aired: 9/27/2009 |
| 20:51.17 | mikma | etc |
| 20:51.29 | mikma | 100+ days for Chuck season 3 ^^ |
| 20:51.38 | haste | the unrelated questions of the day! |
| 20:51.46 | mikma | Season 3, Episode 1 . Aired: 3/0/2010 |
| 20:52.17 | haste | I'm looking for some music video, which possibly is downtempo/idm/electronica/drums with a mexico setting and somehow related to the year 1957 (or smoewhere around there :D) |
| 20:52.52 | mikma | haste: what's wrong with you? damnit! |
| 20:53.17 | haste | lol |
| 20:53.26 | haste | some odd memory that just bursted into life |
| 20:53.33 | haste | and now I can't get it out of my head until I find it |
| 20:56.35 | DWSR | haste: Do you know who it's by or can you give a description of the artist? |
| 20:57.04 | haste | no, that's really all I've got atm :( |
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| 20:57.55 | Lopeppeppy | you're insane. |
| 20:58.01 | haste | that's nothing new |
| 20:58.06 | Lopeppeppy | You're worse than I am, I've been looking for a book for about 15 years. |
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| 20:58.53 | Lopeppeppy | It's by someone in the 80s, similar to Straub/King/McKammon, horror writer. One child has the power to heal, but it has a terrible price. He cures his father of cancer. Another child has some other power. There is an evil person/being chasing them both to kill them. |
| 20:58.57 | Lopeppeppy | Go go go. :) |
| 20:59.08 | Lopeppeppy | see? insane |
| 20:59.20 | haste | oh god |
| 20:59.26 | haste | that one actually sounded interesting |
| 20:59.39 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 20:59.39 | haste | I love the whole "I has porew with terrible price" concept :P |
| 20:59.46 | haste | with less typos |
| 20:59.48 | DWSR | lol |
| 20:59.53 | DWSR | Now with 50% less typos! |
| 20:59.54 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Talisman - Stephen King and Peter Straub |
| 21:00.01 | Lopeppeppy | It was really really good. it was in a box of books of 80's horror that my mom threw away. |
| 21:00.06 | DWSR | ..... |
| 21:00.06 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, nope. I have that one, love it. |
| 21:00.27 | Lopeppeppy | This one had a boy and a girl, I think one of them was swamp trailer trash, wrong side of the tracks thing. |
| 21:00.51 | Lunessa | That almost sounds like "The Green Mile" but with kids instead of prisoners. |
| 21:00.54 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: remember when I said I had someone intelligent debating on xbox forums? I'm taking it back, he's a moran |
| 21:01.30 | Lopeppeppy | I really wish I could find it. Likely out of print by now, I'm sure. John Saul, McKammon, King, Straub... someone like them... |
| 21:01.42 | DWSR | Ackis: Does he spell good too? ;) |
| 21:01.52 | mikma | i had the GREATEST IDEA EVER with addons |
| 21:01.57 | mikma | TouretteTank |
| 21:02.19 | mikma | like, normal taunt plays something like "ASSHOLE" yell |
| 21:02.33 | mikma | druid AoE taunt screams something.. more |
| 21:02.41 | Ackis | DWSR: moran is a mimi :P |
| 21:02.47 | Ackis | meme |
| 21:02.48 | Ackis | ... |
| 21:02.51 | Ackis | adfssadfasdfklhasdfg;lksjda |
| 21:03.07 | Lopeppeppy | you sound like me, what' sin that puffer? |
| 21:03.16 | Ackis | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moran |
| 21:03.35 | Arrowmaster | that top10 gaming commercials was perty good |
| 21:03.39 | Ackis | i wished there was something good in that puffer |
| 21:03.57 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: aye the odst should've been in there IMO |
| 21:04.07 | Arrowmaster | i havent seen the odst commercial |
| 21:04.25 | DWSR | It's fucking horrible. |
| 21:04.27 | DWSR | Sorry. |
| 21:04.34 | DWSR | the commercial. |
| 21:04.39 | Ackis | why? |
| 21:04.50 | DWSR | Wait, are you talking about the TV one or the like 2 minute one? |
| 21:04.58 | Ackis | 2 minute one |
| 21:05.05 | DWSR | oh, that one was alright. |
| 21:05.08 | DWSR | nothing special though |
| 21:05.23 | Arrowmaster | just the original gameplay vid where right as the beginning i was like 'thats fucking nathan fillion doing the voice of that officer!' |
| 21:05.36 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXE1lhTg7c4 |
| 21:05.44 | DWSR | No, the extended cut of the TV commercial ATM was...meh. |
| 21:05.57 | DWSR | The teaser trailer that they did for ODST like 8 months ago was freakin AWESOME. |
| 21:06.29 | Ackis | I hate FPS pretty much and the ODST commercial is making me want to get halo 1 and play it then halo 2 etc |
| 21:06.37 | nicoli_s | odst sucked |
| 21:07.06 | Ackis | I just want to be master chef! ;) |
| 21:07.07 | DWSR | The game? |
| 21:07.10 | DWSR | nicoli_s? |
| 21:07.10 | nicoli_s | yah |
| 21:07.20 | nicoli_s | the only part i liked was the firefight multiplayer |
| 21:07.21 | Ackis | then I can be like CHANTELLE MAKE ME SAMMICH IMMA MASTER CHEF |
| 21:07.27 | nicoli_s | the campaign was just very unimpressive |
| 21:07.32 | Lopeppeppy | ... yeah, that's gonna go well |
| 21:07.47 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: make me a sammich imma master chef! |
| 21:07.49 | DWSR | nicoli_s: the game should have been called "MOAR HALO MULTIPLAYER" |
| 21:07.56 | DWSR | Ackis: sudo* make me a sammich |
| 21:08.08 | Lopeppeppy | screw off, ackis, plenty of bachelor chow and milk |
| 21:08.15 | nicoli_s | i just cant believe its full pric3 |
| 21:08.17 | Lopeppeppy | you have not the seekrit password |
| 21:08.22 | nicoli_s | maybe if it was 30 bucks itd be worthwhile |
| 21:08.37 | Ackis | lol <3 Lopeppeppy |
| 21:08.46 | nicoli_s | but it really just felt like "hey want to do some generic levels in the halo world where you feel gimped? here you go!" |
| 21:08.54 | Lopeppeppy | it's what Im eating, why shouldn't you? |
| 21:09.06 | Lopeppeppy | takes a bitty nap |
| 21:09.08 | DWSR | nicoli_s: What's different between playing as an ODST and playing as Massa Cheef? |
| 21:09.40 | Arrowmaster | master chef has sheilds? |
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| 21:09.58 | DWSR | lololol |
| 21:10.18 | DWSR | I frequently played the MLG playlist on XBL when I owned that game |
| 21:11.06 | DWSR | So the only difference is that Master Chef has shields and an ODST doesn't? fail. |
| 21:11.12 | Arrowmaster | the final level in halo3 was amazing though, an awesome little tribute to the final level in halo1 but not a clone |
| 21:11.20 | Arrowmaster | i havent played odst yet so i dont know |
| 21:11.43 | Arrowmaster | but i know the odst are supposed to be real humans and not genetically engineered like MC |
| 21:11.55 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: Yeah, the final level of H3 was pretty good. |
| 21:12.01 | DWSR | Took me a while to actually beat it though. |
| 21:12.18 | DWSR | Just because I'd play through it a bunch, then get fucking frustrated and go do something else or own some newbs online. |
| 21:12.22 | DWSR | Then come back to it, etc. |
| 21:12.52 | Arrowmaster | legendary coop was all 'WTF MAN! WTF WTF WTF!" "WTF STOP CRASHING!" "WTF! FASTER! FUCKING FASTER!" |
| 21:13.02 | Ackis | can I stream youtube onto my sexbox? |
| 21:13.33 | Arrowmaster | the final cutscene on legendary was cool too |
| 21:13.42 | foxlit | Ackis: no, only onto your hexbox. |
| 21:13.55 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: You seen the SLASO final scene? |
| 21:14.03 | Ackis | i want to lore up on halo |
| 21:14.04 | Arrowmaster | SLASO? |
| 21:14.12 | Ackis | aka watch cutscenes in my undies on the couch |
| 21:14.17 | Ackis | yes |
| 21:14.20 | Ackis | i said undies |
| 21:14.27 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: Solo Legendary All Skulls On |
| 21:14.34 | DWSR | aka "I am fucking amazing at halo" |
| 21:14.37 | Arrowmaster | oh no |
| 21:14.55 | Arrowmaster | that wasnt possible when i did it |
| 21:14.55 | Arrowmaster | since nobody knew how to get the last skull yet |
| 21:15.00 | DWSR | yaeh. |
| 21:15.02 | DWSR | Youtube it. |
| 21:15.04 | DWSR | Halo 4. |
| 21:15.10 | Arrowmaster | 4? |
| 21:16.01 | DWSR | Just watch the cutscene. |
| 21:16.10 | Arrowmaster | gota find it |
| 21:16.43 | Arrowmaster | this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qROo9bj4HkI |
| 21:20.54 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: Yeah. |
| 21:20.55 | DWSR | Seems to be. |
| 21:21.02 | DWSR | Shitty quality, but shrug. |
| 21:24.34 | Adys | Fixed an issue players were having with entering Battlegrounds while dead or in combat, while already in a Battleground. |
| 21:24.41 | Adys | THANK GOD FOR THAT |
| 21:24.52 | DWSR | lol\ |
| 21:25.10 | DWSR | I remember one time I was BGing, and whenever I entered a BG, I was at the wrong faction's starting point. |
| 21:25.32 | DWSR | I was Horde at the time, so when I entered EotS, I spawned at the MT gy. |
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| 21:25.53 | DWSR | AB, I spawned in the alliance starting bg. |
| 21:25.59 | DWSR | WSG, Alliance flag room. |
| 21:26.08 | DWSR | AV, I spawned at the Stormpike Aid Station |
| 21:26.27 | DWSR | EotS was the best, I could 4 cap the Alliance before the start of the match. |
| 21:27.06 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/196643873 |
| 21:28.07 | DWSR | ahaha |
| 21:29.21 | Lunessa | Look my liege! ... Camelot! Camelot! |
| 21:29.53 | DWSR | It's only a model. |
| 21:30.38 | Lunessa | On second thought, let us not go to Cemelot. 'Tis a silly place. |
| 21:30.42 | DWSR | lol |
| 21:30.55 | DWSR | We're Knights of the Round Table! We dance whenever we're able! |
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| 21:32.01 | Lunessa | I just watched the scene on YouTube. I'm SHOCKED to find such rampant copyright violations. |
| 21:36.54 | DWSR | ? |
| 21:38.22 | Lunessa | DWSR: Sarcasm, I has it. |
| 21:38.32 | DWSR | ? |
| 21:38.36 | DWSR | what scene are you talking about? |
| 21:39.03 | Lunessa | YouTube videos of Monty Python stuff being on YouTube. |
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| 21:48.54 | Lopeppeppy | ni |
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| 22:04.00 | Lunessa | I'm out. Laters. |
| 22:04.38 | mikma | lol what |
| 22:04.44 | mikma | 3.2.2.10505? |
| 22:04.47 | mikma | what's this patch |
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| 22:07.39 | Aelobin | the bug fixes? :P |
| 22:09.39 | Lopeppeppy | bug fixes |
| 22:13.10 | Lopeppeppy | dinner is soon to be delivered. TTFN, everyone. |
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| 22:26.49 | Shirik | rawr |
| 22:26.52 | Shirik | it is too quiet in here |
| 22:26.54 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 22:27.14 | Shirik | huggles Gryphon |
| 22:27.18 | Gryphon | huggles Shirik |
| 22:27.33 | harl | wuff! |
| 22:27.38 | Nechckn | gives Shirik an evil glance |
| 22:27.48 | Shirik | Nechckn |
| 22:27.56 | Shirik | I have spent the last week setting up JIRA, Fisheye, Crucible, Bamboo, and Crowd |
| 22:28.05 | Shirik | in the most customized configuration I have ever seen |
| 22:28.18 | Shirik | loads are distributed across 3 servers, it's epic |
| 22:28.19 | Nechckn | ewww.. I'm sorry |
| 22:28.27 | Nechckn | hehehe that is cool, though |
| 22:28.35 | Shirik | the workflow in JIRA is what took the longest probably |
| 22:28.46 | Shirik | but it automatically assigns tasks, etc. |
| 22:28.57 | Shirik | on completion it gets assigned to the test group, etc. |
| 22:29.14 | Shirik | it is quite epic |
| 22:29.20 | Nechckn | lol, sounds like it |
| 22:29.40 | Nechckn | the flows are sort of a pain, but, as you say, you can have it do a ton of crap behind the scenes |
| 22:29.46 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:29.50 | Fisker | moo: hdd: C:\ 26.53GB/74.53GB D:\ 852.05GB/1.82TB E:\ 1.04TB/1.82TB |
| 22:29.58 | Nechckn | Is this for some school thing or minion? |
| 22:30.06 | Shirik | EcoCar |
| 22:30.14 | Nechckn | ah.. funky |
| 22:30.23 | Funkeh` | ? |
| 22:30.30 | Nechckn | =P |
| 22:30.52 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 22:31.07 | Nechckn | heheheh expression, not name |
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| 22:32.09 | jaxdahl | did the minipatch fix not being able to gem tradeable BOP items? |
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| 22:46.55 | Adys | bleeter: ping |
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| 23:00.41 | Thunder_Child | thats amusing http://fukung.net/v/4771/Fishbirds.jpg |
| 23:11.26 | Fisker | i disagree |
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| 23:49.38 | Amarande | Evening :) |
| 23:50.04 | Amarande | hmm, do you guys agree with the forum comment that Loque should be taken off the Northrend rare mob achievement? |
| 23:50.45 | Amarande | actually, all the Sholazar Basin rares possibly should, in that line |
| 23:51.34 | ZorbaBeta | what's the argument that it should? |
| 23:51.34 | Wobin | whazza... update? |
| 23:51.37 | Wobin | Amarande, I agree |
| 23:51.53 | Wobin | maybe not the rares cause they share a spawn |
| 23:52.02 | Wobin | but certainly for loque |
| 23:52.51 | Amarande | Zorba: the potential for a *lot* of bad blood between hunters and achievement enthusiasts |
| 23:53.01 | ZorbaBeta | so basically you've just described WoW ;) |
| 23:53.04 | Dagmar | They should just make it an achievement for hunters or somethign |
| 23:53.20 | Wobin | ugh |
| 23:53.26 | ZorbaBeta | I dunno, I just went through getting flamed a ton because I wanted the Arena Grand Master achievement |
| 23:53.26 | Dagmar | ...although I'd rather they take it off the list entirely |
| 23:53.28 | Wobin | that would be so terrible |
| 23:53.29 | Amarande | with Loque especially, having the Frostbitten achievement I imagine pretty much makes hunters all want to say "you effer, u die nao plz kthx" |
| 23:53.41 | ZorbaBeta | (I wasn't previously aware that Gurubashi was desgined for level 19 twinks, but live and learn) |
| 23:53.46 | Wobin | "whinewhinewhinehunterscangetsomethingIcan'twhine" |
| 23:53.52 | ZorbaBeta | AFAIK, the only reason hunters want it is because it's pretty |
| 23:54.05 | Wobin | ZorbaBeta, .... and? |
| 23:54.06 | Dagmar | You're pretty much not taming Loque if ANYONE else is around because people will just kill him while you're trying to tame it |
| 23:54.16 | Dagmar | ZorbaBeta: Wrong |
| 23:54.18 | ZorbaBeta | if it was an actual damage improvement I'd agree, but it isn't. they want their vanity bytes, we want our vanity bytes, I don't see why either group deserves to have their goals made easier |
| 23:54.23 | Wobin | ZorbaBeta, that's the reason for -any hunter pet- |
| 23:54.27 | Amarande | Zorba: it's also because Loque and the other Sholazar rare are the ONLY possible pets of that pet type |
| 23:54.29 | ZorbaBeta | wobin, and? |
| 23:54.39 | Amarande | it's not just being able to have Loque or what's her name |
| 23:54.39 | Dagmar | That's the only place you're getting a spirit beast, period. |
| 23:54.40 | Wobin | and what Amarande said |
| 23:54.40 | ZorbaBeta | amarande, yeah, I'd say a better solution would be to add a more common pet of that type |
| 23:54.52 | Wobin | ZorbaBeta, but that would make it less rare |
| 23:54.56 | Wobin | and less special |
| 23:54.59 | ZorbaBeta | wobin, so would taking it off the achievement |
| 23:55.04 | ZorbaBeta | or, if the pet type is equivalent to some other, just leave it |
| 23:55.13 | Amarande | although, I'm not sure how Spirit Beasts perform vs. other pet types |
| 23:55.14 | Wobin | no it wouldn't |
| 23:55.16 | Amarande | in a practical sense, that is |
| 23:55.21 | ZorbaBeta | if the spirit beasts are actually mechanically different, make it easier in some sense. if they're not, just deal |
| 23:55.23 | Wobin | cause.. like. hunters are not getting an achievement for taming loque |
| 23:55.26 | Dagmar | I don't notice any other classes damage being that tied to a specific type of demon being bound, for example |
| 23:55.35 | Wobin | ZorbaBeta, they -are- mechanically different |
| 23:55.37 | ZorbaBeta | wobin, yes it would. supply and demand. if fewer people are achivementing it, then more people are taming it |
| 23:55.41 | Wobin | it's not just a skin |
| 23:55.49 | Amarande | especially in raids, where the Spirit Beast would need to actually be -substantially- better than other pet types, for the simple reason that BM specs are apparently generally inferior in raiding to MM |
| 23:55.52 | ZorbaBeta | wobin, alright, then either a more common source of that pet should be placed, or it should be made mechanically equivalent to some other type |
| 23:55.56 | Dagmar | They're an exotic pet. By definition they are materially different |
| 23:56.05 | ZorbaBeta | dagmar, there are other exotic pets in the game |
| 23:56.09 | Dagmar | So what |
| 23:56.19 | ZorbaBeta | man do we have to go over this again |
| 23:56.22 | Wobin | That's like saying "There are other swords in the game" |
| 23:56.27 | Dagmar | That's the only place you're getting a spirit beast. |
| 23:56.40 | Dagmar | Obviously, since you don't yet get it |
| 23:56.43 | Amarande | From what I've gathered, if you want to do group content as a hunter, you spec MM, and then you dual spec Survival for use in specific situations where stronger traps are especially important. |
| 23:56.52 | ZorbaBeta | if that is the only source of that particular gameplay mechanic, then it should be changed. if it's not, then it's a vanity deal, and I don't believe vanity deals should be made easier unless they are truly ridiculous *and* semi-obsolete (i.e. rivendare mount) |
| 23:56.56 | Dagmar | Amarande: not really |
| 23:57.10 | Wobin | Amarande, not so |
| 23:57.17 | Dagmar | There's more people with the Rivendare mount than there are people who've tamed Loque |
| 23:57.19 | Wobin | all the specs are viable damage |
| 23:57.23 | ZorbaBeta | there's more than a few things I want for vanity's sake, some of which are harder because of other people going after them for different reasons. I don't ask for it to be nerfed so I can have my shinies though. The difficulty of getting it is part of the prize. |
| 23:57.34 | ZorbaBeta | Not everything should be handed to you on a silver platter. :P |
| 23:57.38 | Wobin | what's being -nerfed- |
| 23:57.52 | Wobin | -nothing- is being handed on a -silver platter- |
| 23:57.58 | Wobin | wtf are you -on- about? |
| 23:57.58 | Amarande | Dagmar: well Rivendare mount being more common than Loque pet is kinda duh :) |
| 23:58.13 | Amarande | I'd say you'd be better off comparing it to something like the MGT white chocobo or the TK phoenix |
| 23:58.16 | Wobin | have you even -tried- taming Loque? |
| 23:58.24 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 23:58.25 | Dagmar | Twice. |
| 23:58.28 | Wobin | not you =P |
| 23:58.30 | Wobin | Zorba! |
| 23:58.32 | Dagmar | Both times some f**ker jumped in and killed it |
| 23:58.34 | ZorbaBeta | wobin, no, I haven't, but I've tried finding him for the achievement. It ain't easy. |
| 23:58.42 | ZorbaBeta | And I've tried getting Sorthalis also, and it isn't easy either. |
| 23:58.44 | Wobin | So, you really can't talk =P |
| 23:59.00 | Wobin | since you have no stake in the argument |
| 23:59.02 | ZorbaBeta | I've also tried getting the Rivendare mount, and the mounts from ZG and Kara. |
| 23:59.09 | ZorbaBeta | Of course I can, that's a ridiculous claim. |
| 23:59.19 | Amarande | You can probably get the Rivendare mount within a weekend without too much trouble, assuming you don't have any more pressing engagements than Strat. |
| 23:59.20 | ZorbaBeta | I'm a game designer, I can discuss game design all I want |
| 23:59.25 | Dagmar | No one could jump in at the last minute and try to ninja the Rivendare mount from you |
| 23:59.34 | Wobin | as is claiming that taking a single npc off the 'rare beasts' achievement is a TERRIBLE NERF |
| 23:59.34 | ZorbaBeta | even if I wasn't, I could. That's like the old "you're not an ar-teeeste, you can't discuss art" idiocy |
| 23:59.38 | Dagmar | You'd at the very least have to have grouped with them |
| 23:59.44 | Amarande | Remember, it's not like it takes more than what, 15-20 minutes or so even with scrubby gear to do a Rivendare run at 80? |
| 23:59.50 | Wobin | That's such a ridiculous claim |
