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| 00:02.32 | Pneumatus | lua> t = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5}; table.remove(t, 3); for k, v in ipairs(t) do print(k.." -> "..v) end |
| 00:02.32 | lua_bot | Pneumatus: 1 -> 1, 2 -> 2, 3 -> 4, 4 -> 5 |
| 00:03.04 | Pneumatus | table.remove is probably the only way you can do it to make it shuffle indicies |
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| 00:07.06 | Cide | lua> t = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5}; table.remove(t, 3); pp(t) |
| 00:07.06 | lua_bot | Cide: { 1, 2, 4, 5 } (#1) |
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| 00:15.27 | Wobin | http://grail.cs.washington.edu/projects/rome/index.html |
| 00:15.31 | Wobin | that's pretty awesome |
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| 00:17.26 | Wobin | ahaha |
| 00:17.26 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx7v815bYUw |
| 00:27.08 | Pneumatus | Cide: pp() prettyprint or something? |
| 00:27.32 | Cide | yup |
| 00:27.37 | Cide | luabot-only |
| 00:27.39 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty Pretty Print Princess! |
| 00:28.41 | jnwhiteh | dardack: Many people can show you how to do it, just ask =) |
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| 00:45.13 | dardack | jnwhiteh: show me how to do what? I already have a frame with tabs, i don't know, teaching an old dude new tricks, i mean i just do this to stay in "somewhat" programming practice so i don't loose it, since i went into a totally different field then my 2 programming degrees, aparantly it's easier to get a job with my accounting degree |
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| 01:01.12 | bleeter | yarrrrrrrrrrrr AVAST ME HEARTIES!!! |
| 01:01.25 | bleeter | 12 hour buff and achievement??? WHAT KINDA SCURVY LAND LUBBER LAMENESS IS THIS!! |
| 01:01.50 | bleeter | to teh plank with ms demeza!!! |
| 01:02.52 | Lopeppeppy | Oh you're kidding, there's a pirate achievement? |
| 01:03.00 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 01:03.25 | dardack | just to drink wiht her right? |
| 01:08.04 | bleeter | yup captain's booty, have a drink with her |
| 01:08.10 | bleeter | which is get the 12hr buff |
| 01:08.23 | bleeter | shows under world events, but no category |
| 01:09.47 | Lopeppeppy | Where is she located, so if I get my wireless to work, I can go visit her? |
| 01:10.15 | bleeter | top of the BB Bank |
| 01:10.26 | bleeter | dread pirate de meza |
| 01:10.51 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent fun. Thanks, bleeter, I hope I get to see her. That was going to be a tomorrow project anyway, since I can't do the laundry like I wanted. |
| 01:11.04 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: if you're horde you can just run from FP platform onto roof of bank |
| 01:12.31 | Lopeppeppy | Alliance, I shall have to climb my way to the regal captain |
| 01:13.48 | bleeter | bugger |
| 01:13.55 | bleeter | doesn't survive shapeshifting :( |
| 01:14.06 | bleeter | bugged as last year WAAAAA |
| 01:16.29 | Lopeppeppy | is it a bug, or wai? |
| 01:17.51 | NightHawkTheSane | its not a 'bug', per say |
| 01:18.06 | Lopeppeppy | Yuh huh. |
| 01:18.20 | NightHawkTheSane | its a quirk of how their player models work, i dont think they're planning on 'fixing' it |
| 01:18.22 | bleeter | yeah silly system limitation |
| 01:18.34 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: depends what they need to do for cataclysm, I guess |
| 01:18.44 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: arguably true |
| 01:19.06 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: the official word up until now has always been something like 'it'd be far more work to fix than is really worth' |
| 01:19.25 | Lopeppeppy | For a cute little holdiay buff, I'd agree. |
| 01:19.39 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, depends what they have to do for worgen |
| 01:19.48 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: there's some other things it'd be 'nice' for, too |
| 01:20.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: well, it applies to other things (savory deviate delight, halloween wands & trick or treats, etc) |
| 01:20.11 | bleeter | ^^ |
| 01:20.22 | bleeter | in a properly extensible system, it wouldn't |
| 01:20.29 | Lopeppeppy | "properly" |
| 01:20.42 | bleeter | s/properly/fully/ |
| 01:20.44 | bleeter | my bad |
| 01:21.06 | Lopeppeppy | They're all fun buffs. I agree that it would be nice if they worked for the shapes, but it's not a game-breaking flaw. |
| 01:21.08 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, although i imagine a lot of wow grew organically and not as well as it could have |
| 01:21.41 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: it's only gamebreaking if it stops them being 'creative' in other ways with temp buffs |
| 01:22.11 | Lopeppeppy | The creative temp buffs you describe have so far only been fun ones. Anything truly a matter of game play seems to work just fine. |
| 01:23.51 | bleeter | bet there's a lot of wheel spinning and differnt 'types' of temps |
| 01:24.02 | bleeter | is all I was thinking |
| 01:24.14 | bleeter | different methods of doing them |
| 01:24.24 | bleeter | blah anyways, more toons to go get the achievement :) |
| 01:24.39 | bleeter | some temp 'fun' buffs are limited to inside instances |
| 01:24.51 | bleeter | YARRRR |
| 01:24.52 | Lopeppeppy | etc. |
| 01:25.22 | Arrowmaster | what time does it start server time? |
| 01:26.37 | Lopeppeppy | Yaaar, probably midnight, when all of the instances reset and stuff, matey! |
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| 01:33.24 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: I try and stay away from changeover times of stuff... they're usually... buggy ;) |
| 01:34.14 | Arrowmaster | just tell me what time the calendar says it starts so i know when not to check before |
| 01:34.37 | Lopeppeppy | Go check yoruself, lazybones. |
| 01:34.52 | Arrowmaster | that means logging in.... |
| 01:35.33 | Lopeppeppy | Or just... checking the calendar on the bliz site, hello. |
| 01:36.00 | Arrowmaster | since when does that give times? |
| 01:36.37 | Lopeppeppy | I have no idea what it gives, go find out. :P |
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| 01:47.32 | bleeter | I seem to recall winterveil starting at 2 and 4am |
| 01:47.49 | bleeter | so it may have something to do with some 'master' timezone of the cluster, your realm's offset, etc. |
| 01:48.13 | bleeter | certainly daily rollovers have been known to behave ... strangely... giving the impression it's something like that under the hood |
| 01:49.58 | Lopeppeppy | Or just computers being willful and wicked. |
| 01:52.50 | bleeter | same diff |
| 01:54.41 | bleeter | someone's standing next to me with 14 mins on the buff to go, it's 11:54AM here |
| 01:54.50 | bleeter | so yeah prolly starts midnight realm time :) |
| 01:55.58 | dardack | how do I have a pop up asking yes no and get the response? |
| 02:06.32 | Wobin | http://ursulav.deviantart.com/art/Voodoo-Bunny-Slippers-137459697 |
| 02:07.02 | Lopeppeppy | voo-dee-dooo! |
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| 02:09.04 | cog|away | dardack: look up static_popup |
| 02:09.16 | dardack | cog|away: thanks found it |
| 02:09.21 | dardack | sometimes my google skills suck |
| 02:09.24 | dardack | then i post in here |
| 02:09.25 | cog|away | ^ |
| 02:09.29 | dardack | get inspiration and find it |
| 02:09.29 | cog|away | :) |
| 02:10.22 | cog|away | someone should do a wow version of stackoverflow.com |
| 02:10.27 | kd3 | ! |
| 02:10.36 | kd3 | firefox isn't export-controlled |
| 02:10.42 | kd3 | wonders what else can be taken off that list |
| 02:11.45 | cog|away | someone else should do a study of whether browsing stackoverflow.com at work makes you more or less productive :> |
| 02:12.26 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 02:15.06 | dardack | how do i break out of a for loop early? |
| 02:15.13 | dardack | just return? |
| 02:15.42 | tem | Thin crust pizza should be half the price |
| 02:15.46 | tem | because it's half as filling |
| 02:16.04 | cog|away | dardack: break? |
| 02:16.09 | dardack | oh break |
| 02:16.10 | dardack | doh |
| 02:18.18 | Lopeppeppy | Tem, why are you eating it then? |
| 02:18.48 | kd3 | ^ |
| 02:20.55 | Lopeppeppy | I don't even like pizza, but I know enough to get a good chewy crust. |
| 02:22.07 | tem | Thin Crust is awesome |
| 02:22.12 | tem | <3 crispy |
| 02:22.31 | Lopeppeppy | ... you just said different. You're schizo about your pizza, that's never a good sign. |
| 02:24.33 | cog|away | one comment was about fillingness, the other flavor... no contradiction! :P |
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| 02:24.42 | cog|away | and /agree tem |
| 02:25.10 | Lopeppeppy | Weirdos. |
| 02:25.16 | tem | no u |
| 02:25.29 | Lopeppeppy | So very you. |
| 02:26.01 | bleeter | As a former pizza shop staffer, I agree |
| 02:26.04 | bleeter | weirdos |
| 02:26.14 | boomnuts1 | can some one point me in the derection of a mod that helps record when you ding in wow |
| 02:26.44 | Lopeppeppy | "record" in what way, boomnuts1? |
| 02:27.00 | tem | achievements mark when dinged the important levels |
| 02:28.02 | boomnuts1 | well i used to have a addon that would flash messige up on the screan and then take a screen shot |
| 02:28.02 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5187-DingRecorder.html |
| 02:29.10 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9590-MultishotScreenshot.html -- my keywords were "ding" and screenshot. |
| 02:29.21 | Lopeppeppy | Polish your search-fu, young padawan, that was too easy |
| 02:40.28 | cog|away | polishes his notation |
| 02:40.33 | dardack | anyone know the hex for the yellowish/gold text |
| 02:40.44 | cog|away | isn't it defined in Fonts.xml? |
| 02:40.48 | Shirik | you shouldn't hardcode it |
| 02:40.53 | cog|away | (i.e. don't use the hex) |
| 02:41.07 | dardack | why not? |
| 02:41.12 | cog|away | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_number_(programming) |
| 02:41.30 | cog|away | err |
| 02:41.45 | cog|away | fails |
| 02:42.39 | dardack | ok i don't understand what that has to do with why not |
| 02:42.50 | cog|away | hence "err... /me fails" |
| 02:42.51 | cog|away | :P |
| 02:42.53 | dardack | yea |
| 02:42.57 | dardack | i read that after i typed that |
| 02:43.18 | dardack | so all my code with |cff<hex> |r is wrong? |
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| 02:44.03 | cog|away | it's not "wrong" per se |
| 02:44.05 | Lopeppeppy | Heyo, Beladona |
| 02:44.19 | cog|away | this one's better http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_repeat_yourself |
| 02:45.00 | dardack | well how do i use the things in fonts.xml? |
| 02:45.13 | Beladona | hi |
| 02:45.31 | Shirik | dardack |
| 02:45.32 | cog|away | er... fonstyles.xml |
| 02:45.38 | cog|away | fontstyles* |
| 02:45.40 | Shirik | the primary reason is because the user might change all kinds of font settings |
| 02:45.50 | Shirik | and if you don't match those changes, then it will be unappealing to the user |
| 02:46.12 | Shirik | however DRY is a good reason too |
| 02:46.24 | cog|away | and also future-proofing |
| 02:46.27 | dardack | so like text = VARNAMEINFONTSTYLES.."My text |r"? |
| 02:46.33 | cog|away | if blizzard ever changes it, your code will automatically match |
| 02:46.45 | cog|away | yep |
| 02:46.57 | dardack | oh |
| 02:46.58 | cog|away | NORMAL_FONT_COLOR_CODE it looks like |
| 02:46.59 | dardack | damn |
| 02:47.00 | dardack | ok |
| 02:47.15 | dardack | i gotta lot of rewriting stuff |
| 02:47.31 | cog|away | dardack: but once you do, and you start getting in the habit, you'll be very thankful ;) |
| 02:47.43 | dardack | i'm already thankful |
| 02:47.46 | dardack | if i had known that before |
| 02:47.51 | dardack | just sux to go clean up |
| 02:47.55 | cog|away | *nod |
| 02:48.01 | cog|away | +* |
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| 02:51.47 | Cloudwolf | !api cursor |
| 02:51.47 | lua_bot | Found 26 possible matches for 'cursor'. Please be more specific |
| 02:51.58 | Cloudwolf | !api cursor position |
| 02:51.58 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'cursor position'. |
| 02:52.14 | Cloudwolf | !api getcursor |
| 02:52.14 | lua_bot | Found 4 possible results for 'getcursor': GetCursorPosition, EditBox:GetCursorPosition, GetCursorInfo, GetCursorMoney |
| 02:52.51 | Thunder_Child | seriously, people that name their DL files 'Setup.exe' should be shot |
| 02:52.54 | Cloudwolf | how would i get the frame under a mouse? |
| 02:53.50 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:53.58 | kd3 | or whatever the built-in command is called now |
| 02:54.09 | DWSR | Oh, is there a built in command? |
| 02:54.20 | kd3 | didn't that get imported from devtools too? |
| 02:54.25 | DWSR | I always used /run print(GetMouseFocus:GetName()) |
| 02:54.34 | Cloudwolf | ty dwsr |
| 02:54.35 | kd3 | and that macro ^ |
| 02:54.40 | Cloudwolf | cool with the /framestack |
| 02:54.41 | Arrowmaster | so since all strings are pointers but strings in files are never garbage collected, meaning if you were to use local text = NORMAL_FONT_COLOR_CODE .. "My text|r" directly in a file a copy of both the "My text|r" would always exist in memory and the concated string would exist in memory as long as it was kept in a var...... |
| 02:55.21 | DWSR | Is /framestack essentially that macro? |
| 02:55.22 | Arrowmaster | am i the only bastard that would even considering doing local text = NORMAL_FONT_COLOR_CODE .. "M".."y".." ".."t".."e".."x".."t".."|".."r" |
| 02:55.33 | DWSR | probably. |
| 02:55.39 | kd3 | a bit more than that. it displays what's under the cursor at all layers |
| 02:55.41 | Arrowmaster | thought so |
| 02:55.46 | kd3 | and yes... bastard |
| 02:55.47 | DWSR | oh awesome kd3 |
| 02:56.02 | Arrowmaster | kd3: but it would save memory if everybody did it! |
| 02:56.47 | Cloudwolf | would it be GetMouseFocus():GetName():GetTexture()? |
| 02:57.01 | Cloudwolf | nvm i |
| 02:57.08 | Cloudwolf | *i'll go find the get texture command |
| 02:57.18 | DWSR | Cloudwolf: N |
| 02:57.23 | DWSR | No* |
| 02:57.34 | DWSR | That gets the texture name, not the frame name. |
| 02:57.54 | ScytheBlade1 | :GetName() breaks things in that context anyway |
| 02:57.59 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: you're entering the realm of preemptive optimization |
| 02:58.04 | Shirik | is there any real benefit to doing that? |
| 02:58.10 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 02:58.15 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: you seriously dont know me well enough |
| 02:58.19 | ScytheBlade1 | GetMouseFocus() returns the frame (table), and then the :GetName() returns.. a string.. |
| 02:58.51 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: ive always done preemptive optimization when it comes to Lua |
| 02:58.56 | ScytheBlade1 | And GetTexture() isn't valid on a string |
| 02:59.00 | Shirik | you are bad |
| 02:59.37 | Cloudwolf | well i just tried GetMouseFocus():GetTexture() to no avail also >.< |
| 02:59.42 | Arrowmaster | no im not, i have very good reasons to justify doing preemptive optimization (to an extent) in Lua |
| 02:59.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Because what GetMouseFocus() returned was not a texture |
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| 03:00.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm only about 50% sure of this, but I don't think it will ever return a texture, only a frame |
| 03:00.21 | Shirik | you cannot focus a texture |
| 03:00.27 | ScytheBlade1 | There you have it |
| 03:00.36 | ScytheBlade1 | GetMouseFocus() will never return a texture |
| 03:01.42 | Arrowmaster | theres still over optimization but i disagree with the design method of completely ignoring optimization until after everything is written and then optimizing if needed |
| 03:01.54 | Shirik | that's not really what I meant |
| 03:02.33 | Shirik | as Stroustrup put it, "efficient code should flow naturally from your fingers" |
| 03:02.45 | Shirik | You should do obvious optimization steps, etc. |
| 03:02.53 | Shirik | Something like `local text = NORMAL_FONT_COLOR_CODE .. "M".."y".." ".."t".."e".."x".."t".."|".."r"` |
| 03:02.55 | Shirik | doesn't make sense |
| 03:03.07 | Shirik | however, local tinsert = table.insert |
| 03:03.07 | Shirik | sure |
| 03:03.31 | Shirik | I pretty much localize all APIs |
| 03:04.38 | Cloudwolf | well this is pissing me off already.... |
| 03:05.01 | Arrowmaster | i can probably come up with an excuse for doing that because of concating lots of long strings, but situations like that would probably be better off doing some kinda preprocessing |
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| 03:06.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Cloudwolf: you need to find the name of the texture, and then you can :GetTexture() to get the texture path |
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| 03:07.18 | Cloudwolf | well i have no idea of hte texture name cus its not giving me it :P... im trying to get it from an ingame frame... |
| 03:07.56 | ScytheBlade1 | You can either guess it from the frame name, or find it out by poking with the source of the relevant file |
| 03:08.14 | Cloudwolf | ughhhh at xml poking i hate xml... |
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| 03:08.39 | ScytheBlade1 | That's too bad, because all you're doing is looking for a <Texture> tag. It is probably simpler than digging through a lua based addon. |
| 03:12.34 | Cloudwolf | lovely i can't even find the right xml file for the currency tab.... |
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| 03:30.54 | dardack | sigh all of a sudden a mod of mine stopped working |
| 03:31.46 | Cloudwolf | what art folder would you say the .blp for the warsong mark of honor is under? |
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| 03:34.21 | dardack | could someone look at http://wowuidev.pastey.net/125391 and tell me why no info is being added to the game tooltip anymore? |
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| 03:36.01 | cog|away | O.o |
| 03:36.12 | cog|away | i just found a >400 line function in some old code of mine... |
| 03:37.41 | |Jelly| | o.O |
| 03:38.08 | dardack | sigh |
| 03:38.38 | cog|away | http://cogwheel.pastey.net/125392 |
| 03:38.51 | cog|away | at least i can truthfully claim i wasn't the only one responsible... |
| 03:39.47 | cog|away | it looks like we were trying to beat the compiler at optimization or something >< |
| 03:39.59 | cog|away | (of course, it *was* VC++6.0) |
| 03:40.19 | cog|away | (and we didn't have the optimizing version) |
| 03:40.41 | cog|away | (not that this was a critical codepath...) <.< >.> |
| 03:42.03 | dardack | can only 1 addon do local LWIW_UpdateTooltip = GameTooltip:GetScript("OnTooltipSetUnit"); GameTooltip:SetScript("OnTooltipSetUnit", function(...) <function stuff> end) cause it seems to me even if i change the local variable the first one loaded takes precedent |
| 03:43.37 | cog|away | Me: "oooh ... Duff's device" ... Mrs. Cogwheel: "Huh?" .... yeah this'll take a while. |
| 03:44.41 | Cloudwolf | does any one know a blp viewer? |
| 03:44.54 | Zyn | XnView has support for it, iirc |
| 03:47.08 | dardack | so is there a way to have multiple addons be able to run a function against OnToolTipSetUnit? |
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| 03:53.50 | Amarande | Evening :) |
| 03:54.26 | Amarande | So apparently the whole 2H axe for DKs and hunters is a joke :) |
| 03:54.29 | Amarande | It's not really for hunters ... heh |
| 03:57.30 | Cloudwolf | ..... im still having NO IDEA how to find the name of this texture i want to use ugh... |
| 03:59.02 | ScytheBlade1 | You know, after an hour+ of trying to find it, you're generally okay with just asking. |
| 03:59.28 | Amarande | I apparently need to find a panel that works the way DockingStation does but isn't DockingStation |
| 04:00.18 | Amarande | unless all LDB panels inherently by nature have the same taint issues, anyway |
| 04:00.23 | tem | Amarande, wow way to be a month late on that one... |
| 04:00.40 | Amarande | tem: DockingStation actually works pretty nicely |
| 04:00.44 | Amarande | except it has taint issues every now and then |
| 04:00.58 | Cloudwolf | Well ScytheBlade1 I would like a simple way to just pull textures from ingame |
| 04:01.04 | Amarande | but come to think of it, I'm not sure if those taint issues are a panel specific thing or an LDB limitation in general |
| 04:01.05 | Cloudwolf | get the names to the path so i can use them myself |
| 04:01.16 | ScytheBlade1 | _G["texturename"]:GetTexture() |
| 04:01.28 | Cloudwolf | and how would i get hte textures name? |
| 04:01.31 | Cloudwolf | for global |
| 04:01.52 | Cloudwolf | i do not know the ["Texturename"] and i need that |
| 04:02.02 | ScytheBlade1 | As I said, you can either guess the name, or find it where it is defined |
| 04:02.03 | tem | Amarande, I mean Shadowmourne not being for hunters |
| 04:02.06 | tem | meant* |
| 04:02.10 | ScytheBlade1 | But as I said, after an hour+ of poking, you can just ask |
| 04:02.22 | Cloudwolf | where would the pvp marks be found? |
| 04:02.48 | Cloudwolf | they are in the currecny tab of the C bound frame |
| 04:03.59 | Cloudwolf | the xml files i found were something like tokenframe |
| 04:04.10 | Cloudwolf | tokenframe.lua and tokenframe.xml |
| 04:04.22 | Cloudwolf | both of which i dont see any declaration of anything dealing with each of the buttons |
| 04:04.58 | NightHawkTheSane | is beginning to see 1" grid lines on everything. |
| 04:05.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Line 14 of Blizzard_TokenUI.xml tells you the name of the texture |
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| 04:05.58 | dardack | i need to find a way to use OnTooltipSetUnit with the gametooltip in multiple addons |
| 04:05.58 | Amarande | Night: Too much D&D? :) |
| 04:06.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: playing, no, drawing maps for my tuesday game, yes. |
| 04:06.37 | Cloudwolf | hell i was lookin the wrong folders... |
| 04:06.48 | Cloudwolf | kept looking in framexml rather than addons |
| 04:06.54 | Amarande | Night: use Campaign Cartographer 3, then you can measure things without needing actual visible graph grids |
| 04:07.00 | Amarande | besides, CC3 kicks ass |
| 04:07.40 | NightHawkTheSane | a) probably no mac version. b) It doesn't give me nicely drawn 26"x31" maps that I can put on the table. |
| 04:08.03 | Amarande | hmm |
| 04:08.09 | Amarande | I thought Macs these days had something to run Windows software |
| 04:08.17 | Cloudwolf | <Texture name="$parentIcon"> is line 14 of blizzard_tokenUI.xml |
| 04:08.19 | NightHawkTheSane | it involves actually installing windows |
| 04:08.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, which gives you the name right there |
| 04:08.32 | NightHawkTheSane | which, technically, i have a win 7 partition |
| 04:08.37 | Amarande | and CC3 is CAD based, so you're only limited by the printers you have access to |
| 04:08.39 | NightHawkTheSane | i just try to avoid using it for real work |
| 04:08.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: my point exactly, I dont have easy access to printers that big. |
| 04:09.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Drawing the maps by hand isn't that hard, really. Just a little time consuming. |
| 04:10.15 | Cloudwolf | afk for like an hour if you need to direct somethign to me just use Cloudwolf: whatever as it puts that info into a tab that wont get swamped down |
| 04:10.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Cloudwolf: ... so you know now, that if you can get the name of the frame, the name of the texture is framename.."Icon" |
| 04:11.35 | NightHawkTheSane | What I really need to do is get a projector, and display maps that way |
| 04:16.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Cloudwolf: TokenFrameContainerButton1Icon |
| 04:18.36 | Amarande | Night: if you get a projector, you'd really love CC3 |
| 04:18.45 | Amarande | just hook the projector to the computer and project the map straight out of the program :) |
| 04:20.54 | dardack | sigh |
| 04:20.58 | dardack | i can't figure this out |
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| 04:25.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: yeah, in that case I'd consider it. but until then, hand drawing will do me fine. |
| 04:26.03 | Amarande | I just wish I could draw a world map in CC3 that didn't always feel like it had scaling issues |
| 04:26.07 | cog|away | Fisker: how long have you been slapping people around a bit with large trout? |
| 04:26.43 | Amarande | It always feels either too populated, too sparse, or like the city icons take up more space than the entire State of Connecticut. :) |
| 04:28.43 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|away: since they invented trout. |
| 04:29.06 | cog|away | apparently I've been doing it since ~1999 and I didn't even know it... |
| 04:29.36 | cog|away | (going through a couple old backup CDs and found an irc log) |
| 04:30.38 | cog|away | was it built into mirc or something? |
| 04:31.08 | Amarande | cog|away: yeah, it's been a built-in alias in mIRC for pretty much forever now |
| 04:31.27 | cog|away | ok... now i feel saner |
| 04:31.31 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a context menu option |
| 04:31.34 | cog|away | saner (sp?) |
| 04:31.34 | batbot | cog|away, saner is correct. |
| 04:35.13 | Amarande | indeed |
| 04:35.20 | Amarande | "sane" is a nonexistent state of being |
| 04:35.59 | cog|away | agrees |
| 04:43.23 | kd3 | whee, it's pirate day |
| 04:43.25 | kd3 | logs in |
| 04:45.12 | Amarande | yay, Yankees lose |
| 04:45.17 | Amarande | what's this pirate day all about, anyway? |
| 04:45.20 | Amarande | besides, well, you know, pirates |
| 04:45.21 | Amarande | heh |
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| 04:46.30 | kd3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Talk_Like_a_Pirate_Day |
| 04:46.44 | Amarande | I mean |
| 04:46.52 | Amarande | are there any super special super rare items that we can get TODAY ONLY? |
| 04:46.59 | Amarande | that actually matter, that is :) |
| 04:46.59 | kd3 | a few achievements, sure |
| 04:47.20 | Zyn | few = one |
| 04:47.33 | kd3 | go hang out on the roof of the AH in BB |
| 04:49.10 | Amarande | you know what's gonna be the most fun |
| 04:49.21 | Amarande | watching all the bloodsail admirals get beat to death by the BBBs :D |
| 04:49.37 | Amarande | you know, I've come to realize that bloodsail admiral is a really, really bad title to consider going for :) |
| 04:50.00 | Amarande | let's see, what do you get |
| 04:50.21 | Amarande | you get a cheap parrot summoning hat that doesn't even IIRC count towards your minipet achievements |
| 04:50.23 | Amarande | you get a silly title |
| 04:50.39 | Amarande | and you get to have all kinds of trouble with half the holiday stuff unless you knew exactly what to do beforehand :) |
| 04:51.01 | Amarande | awaits the QQ starting up again this Christmas season about OMG WE CAN'T GET MERRYMAKER BECAUSE WE'RE BLOODSAIL ADMIRALS |
| 04:51.29 | Zyn | went to BB in advance on my DK, who's hated with goblins ;< |
| 04:51.44 | Zyn | and left before the gankfest started |
| 04:52.20 | Amarande | it was alllll over the place last year |
| 04:53.03 | Amarande | half the WoW board talk when wintersday or winter veil or whatever the hell they call it started |
| 04:53.18 | Amarande | was "omg f u blizzard i can't get merrymaker because im a bloodsail admiral" |
| 04:53.39 | Amarande | which is the name of the winter festival again? |
| 04:53.41 | Amarande | Winter Veil? |
| 04:53.46 | Amarande | yeah, I think it's Winter Veil. Wintersday is GW |
| 04:54.53 | Amarande | the sad thing is that this year people will probably rehash the same complaints |
| 04:55.00 | Amarande | despite the fact that they have even less legitimate reason to make them now |
| 04:55.10 | Amarande | I can somewhat understand and sympathize with the QQ last year |
| 04:55.39 | bleeter | Amarande: TLAPD is also the official annual FSM day, too |
| 04:56.02 | Amarande | since the achievement system was still brand new, and if you didn't do PTR's and such you quite possibly didn't have enough time to reasonably repair your rep with the goblins in time to be able to train for artisan cooking (which was the problem bloodsail admirals had with winter veil) |
| 04:56.11 | Amarande | but *this* year, you should know better. :) |
| 04:56.11 | bleeter | Amarande: that is, Pastafarianism |
| 04:56.35 | NightHawkTheSane | mmm... pastafarian |
| 04:56.46 | NightHawkTheSane | goes well with pestofarian |
| 04:56.50 | bleeter | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster#Pirates_and_global_warming |
| 04:56.51 | Amarande | I'm not sure, how long is the grind to repair your rep with the goblins after getting BSA? |
| 04:57.03 | Amarande | Especially, if you also don't want to ruin your Bloodsail rep? |
| 04:57.04 | bleeter | Amarande: enough to be painful |
| 04:57.07 | kd3 | just mindless grinding of lowbies outside ratchet |
| 04:57.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: long enough for you to whine about |
| 04:57.12 | NightHawkTheSane | not that thats saying much |
| 04:57.15 | Amarande | Night: I didn't. :) |
| 04:57.20 | bleeter | one can do some DM farming |
| 04:57.27 | Amarande | I wasn't a Bloodsail Admiral, and I already had plenty of cooking skill |
| 04:57.30 | bleeter | but run the risk of auto-detection as a gold farmer, iirc |
| 04:58.03 | Amarande | the people who QQ'd last Winter Veil were people who were established Bloodsail Admirals, but who hadn't really paid much attention to cooking skill and thus had not yet acquired Artisan Cooking |
| 04:58.14 | NightHawkTheSane | <3's crayons |
| 04:58.21 | Amarande | and then were ballslammed by reading in the achievement system that the 325 cooking cider would be required for Merrymaker |
| 04:59.02 | Amarande | and then QQ'd with perhaps some justification (if they hadn't pre-spoiled themselves by PTRs and such) that Blizzard was discriminating against them because they would have no reasonable chance at the Merrymaker title due to not being able to get Artisan Cooking |
| 04:59.15 | bleeter | does a happy dance (Pulse+ALSA ICE1712 fix style) |
| 04:59.31 | Amarande | I say "some" justification because of the fact that it was so soon after the achievement system going live |
| 04:59.40 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. do i want to try and set up dual booting on my laptop tonight? |
| 04:59.42 | bleeter | Amarande: I dunno who said it... but... 'fuck 'em if they can't take a joke' |
| 04:59.44 | Amarande | sadly, though, I'm sure we'll get all the same QQ this year even though people should know the achievements full well now |
| 05:00.24 | NightHawkTheSane | soon? It was a good 2 months between 3.0 and winterveil |
| 05:00.47 | Amarande | Night: a lot of people probably didn't look in advance at all the world event achievements |
| 05:00.54 | Amarande | and didn't realize till winter veil that they needed 325 cooking |
| 05:00.58 | NightHawkTheSane | thats their fault. |
| 05:01.01 | NightHawkTheSane | end of story |
| 05:01.16 | Amarande | not to mention, it doesn't actually mention anywhere in the WV achievement what skill you need to cook the things, just that you need to cook them |
| 05:01.47 | Amarande | so if you weren't around for last winter veil, you quite possibly didn't know what the requirements for each are |
| 05:02.04 | NightHawkTheSane | that just means you're a moron who didn't bother to check. |
| 05:02.32 | Amarande | in any case, 2 months isn't too long given how long it takes to dig yourself out of hated with the goblins |
| 05:02.54 | NightHawkTheSane | its enough time if you care. |
| 05:02.57 | Amarande | and the fact that a couple weeks or so of the time you had to do it was utterly disrupted by people abusing the hell out of the zombie infection event |
| 05:03.08 | Amarande | you know what I did during the zombie infection event? |
| 05:03.23 | NightHawkTheSane | qq'd like the little whiner you are? ;) |
| 05:03.23 | Amarande | I was wise. I spent most of it hovering near the very top of A'dal's spire in Shattrath and chatting in /2. |
| 05:03.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I created large raids in stormwind |
| 05:03.50 | Amarande | because I knew that actually managing to achieve much of anything with the griefers around abusing the infection was going to be dicey at best. |
| 05:03.51 | ScytheBlade1 | By ambushing people porting in to the mage tower |
| 05:04.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Once I had a couple hundred people, we moved through stormwind and out to goldshire |
| 05:04.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Good times |
| 05:04.20 | Amarande | And if I had to do AH stuff, I did it in Silvermoon, because that city was resistant to zombie infection |
| 05:04.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Fun fact: if you were a zombie, you can talk cross-faction |
| 05:05.00 | Corrodias | CHATTING IN TRADE? YOU EVIL PERSON! i loved chatting in trade. it was the best. |
| 05:05.03 | NightHawkTheSane | for a while you could trade too |
| 05:05.07 | Amarande | If I were Alliance, I would have correspondingly avoided Azerothian cities other than Exodar. |
| 05:05.22 | Amarande | Maybe Darnassus, it seems about as deserted as Exodar :) |
| 05:05.26 | NightHawkTheSane | although i think they closed that hole before the event ended |
| 05:05.30 | ScytheBlade1 | They did |
| 05:05.49 | Amarande | But yeah, one of the big problems with the zombie event was it made it virtually impossible to quest normally |
| 05:05.59 | ScytheBlade1 | No it didn't |
| 05:06.01 | kd3 | for 3 days |
| 05:06.03 | kd3 | oh noes |
| 05:06.12 | ScytheBlade1 | If you were actually questing, you weren't anywhere near a zombie |
| 05:06.13 | Amarande | because instead of sticking to the theme and fighting the scourge, people were instead deliberately picking up the scourge so they could cause mayhem |
| 05:06.15 | NightHawkTheSane | bitch more, why dont you |
| 05:06.19 | Amarande | Scythe: depends |
| 05:06.31 | Amarande | if you were trying to start a character in the lowbie areas, or otherwise needed to be in or near capital cities |
| 05:06.34 | Corrodias | if you don't enjoy the event, it's just 3 days of shit. |
| 05:07.07 | Amarande | although I think mainly the complaints arised from the timing of the event |
| 05:07.09 | Corrodias | 3 days of shit isn't fun. that's about all that needs to be said to justify that feeling. |
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| 05:07.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: if you can stop there, i can respect that opinion. ;) |
| 05:07.28 | Amarande | a lot of people were trying to go for their halloween achievements, and finding the zombie griefing was significantly impairing their ability to do so |
| 05:07.33 | ScytheBlade1 | seconded @ NightHawkTheSane |
| 05:07.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Er |
| 05:07.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, no |
| 05:07.54 | NightHawkTheSane | its when people go on for ten minutes about things that don't fucking matter just to whine and bitch |
| 05:08.05 | ScytheBlade1 | You sat in Shatt, which was zombie immune, and pegged the cross-faction people with your wands |
| 05:08.20 | Amarande | Scythe: I don't think Shatt was zombie immune at the beginning |
| 05:08.22 | Amarande | that must have been fixed later |
| 05:08.30 | Amarande | I remember Shatt was ESPECIALLY zombie mayhemmed when I was on |
| 05:08.32 | Corrodias | they should rename that city Shattner |
| 05:08.44 | Amarande | yeah, I think they fixed that later due to abuse |
| 05:09.11 | Amarande | after they realized that people were significantly abusing deliberate infection combined with Shattrath's Sanctuary status (meaning no one could really fight back against the zombies) to grief |
| 05:09.42 | Amarande | I definitely remember seeing hordes of zombies and guard zombies and other forms of zombies far below as I watched the mayhem from my netherdrake |
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| 05:09.54 | NightHawkTheSane | sighs. |
| 05:09.59 | Corrodias | that sounds awesome |
| 05:10.20 | Amarande | Night: basically they'd get infected, go kaboom and infect the guards who would go amok all over the players |
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| 05:10.35 | Amarande | and because Shattrath was Sanctuary you couldn't do anything to stop them from infecting the guards, or really to defend yourself against the infected guards either |
| 05:10.54 | Amarande | it basically literally made an end run around the intent of a sanctuary zone |
| 05:11.07 | Corrodias | i have to say, that is hilarious |
| 05:11.19 | Amarande | Like I said, I stuck to Silvermoon if I needed to do city business |
| 05:11.25 | Amarande | It was somewhat resistant, because the arcane guardians were immune |
| 05:11.26 | bleeter | as a general event that they 'couldn't' test on PTR, I think it was pretty good. hopefully they can retune it for Icecrown's release and the final fight of the Lich King |
| 05:11.59 | Amarande | I think the abomination guards in UC were immune too, but there were more people around in UC so I stuck to the quieter city |
| 05:12.40 | Amarande | There were definitely some people zombie griefing Eversong when I was trying to start up a lowbie belf, though |
| 05:13.18 | Amarande | Part of the QQ also came from it forcing PVP on people |
| 05:13.28 | Amarande | In every, and I do mean EVERY other event that I am aware of in WoW |
| 05:13.51 | Amarande | Blizzard is very careful to preserve the game so that on a PvE server (which I stick exclusively to) you are not forced to PvP without consenting to |
| 05:14.32 | Amarande | Unless you flag, or enter a battleground, or an enemy capital city, or attack a flagged NPC or go to WG, all of which require you actively choose to expose yourself to PvP, you do not have to PvP at all on a PvE server. |
| 05:14.50 | Amarande | However, the zombie event forced everyone to be ready for PvP, even on PvE, in absolute counter to this design philosophy. |
| 05:14.52 | kd3 | which was a rule they explicitly broke for /3 days/ |
| 05:14.57 | kd3 | so... log off |
| 05:15.00 | Amarande | although, like bleeter said |
| 05:15.05 | Amarande | this event really couldn't be tested on PTR |
| 05:15.18 | Amarande | so I guess we have to forgive it some imperfections compared to other content |
| 05:16.03 | Amarande | kd3: I ended up doing so, and didn't really come back until WotLK release night |
| 05:16.40 | Amarande | kd3: also, people weren't at all sure it was only going to be three days |
| 05:16.50 | Amarande | most people assumed that the zombie event was going to continue up until WotLK release |
| 05:18.47 | ScytheBlade1 | ......... |
| 05:18.47 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:19.05 | Amarande | but really, I think the main reasons people complained were |
| 05:19.20 | Amarande | a) the forced PvP, and b) the timing that caused it to interfere with the Halloween achievements for many folks |
| 05:19.25 | NightHawkTheSane | that some fool bothered to listen to them. >< |
| 05:20.00 | bleeter | boohhoooo |
| 05:20.09 | bleeter | WAAAAAAMMMMMMBBBBUUULLLLAAAANNNNNCCCCEEEE |
| 05:20.44 | Amarande | If I had been Blizzard, I'd probably have released WotLK a couple weeks later (in the process bringing it closer to Christmas) and thus not had any overlap between the zombie event and Hallow's End |
| 05:21.16 | Amarande | ... and probably have shot myself in the foot on Horde QQ, though heh |
| 05:21.36 | Amarande | There was enough of that at Winter Veil last year as it was without decreasing the leveling time before WV by two weeks. :) |
| 05:21.48 | Thunder_Child | ~bitchslap bleeter |
| 05:21.49 | purl | ACTION beats the sh*t out of bleeter |
| 05:21.56 | NightHawkTheSane | how come seattle is never in time zone city listings. :( |
| 05:22.10 | Thunder_Child | small city? |
| 05:22.17 | NightHawkTheSane | ... not really. |
| 05:22.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Isn't it in the same timezone as LA? |
| 05:22.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, which is probably why. |
| 05:22.33 | NightHawkTheSane | This is so NOT LA, though |
| 05:22.33 | Amarande | Night: do you think the Horde complaints about Bros Before Ho Ho Hos were legitimate or QQ? |
| 05:23.07 | bleeter | Amarande: I'm still pissed they withdrew the original achievement example artwork |
| 05:23.13 | bleeter | screw anything else about achievements |
| 05:23.20 | Amarande | personally, I find it hard to dismiss anything as QQ |
| 05:23.24 | ScytheBlade1 | suddenly wants to see the screenshot |
| 05:23.35 | Amarande | when it's a case of achievements being *inherently* significantly different in difficulty by faction |
| 05:23.46 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: sceenshot? |
| 05:23.53 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, though to be fair, they usually have san francisco and san diego |
| 05:23.55 | ScytheBlade1 | of the original achievement artwork |
| 05:24.03 | bleeter | yes |
| 05:24.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: that's a bit odd then |
| 05:24.06 | bleeter | anyone save that?? |
| 05:24.13 | Amarande | and there actually have been a fair number of achievements that HAVE been inherently easier for one faction than the other |
| 05:24.13 | NightHawkTheSane | ah |
| 05:24.30 | Amarande | To fuel the waaaaaaambulance even more, almost all of these seem to end up favoring Alliance. |
| 05:24.38 | kd3 | rolls his eyes |
| 05:24.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Incidentially, you roll horde |
| 05:24.46 | kd3 | ok, I give up for the night |
| 05:24.48 | Amarande | Scythe: yeah. |
| 05:24.50 | bleeter | kd3: wrong direction! :p |
| 05:25.00 | Amarande | But I'm trying to think of an achievement that favors Horde as much as some of them favored Alliance |
| 05:25.05 | Amarande | and I can't even think of *one* |
| 05:25.32 | Amarande | I suppose one can argue that BG achievements related to a battleground where Horde is way better in one's battlegroup might count |
| 05:25.37 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: welcome to the party, i did that like 20 minutes ago |
| 05:25.41 | bleeter | I dunno, pirate day favours horde |
| 05:25.59 | Amarande | but I'm not considering the vagaries of faction performance in given battlegroups/BGs, just the inherent design of things |
| 05:26.32 | Amarande | Alliance could get Merrymaker at ... 50 I think, Horde had to be 77 |
| 05:26.42 | Amarande | This I think of as fairly egregious |
| 05:26.51 | Amarande | because of two main factors |
| 05:27.01 | bleeter | achievements are srs bsns |
| 05:27.13 | Amarande | one, that it was only a month or so after the release of WotLK, meaning there hadn't been THAT much time for especially more casual players to level up |
| 05:27.25 | bleeter | oh noes |
| 05:27.31 | Amarande | and two, that the holiday achievements tend to be the ones targeted AT giving casual players a chance at some glory |
| 05:27.48 | kd3 | so then... they get it next year. it's not like it's a once-only thing |
| 05:27.49 | Amarande | for the more hardcore among us, we have the heroic and raid achievements to go for |
| 05:28.11 | bleeter | oh noes, make a mistake in some annual event acheivement... DISASTER |
| 05:28.22 | Amarande | bleeter: actually |
| 05:28.32 | Amarande | I'm not sure anyone would have complained if Alliance also had to be 77 to get merrymaker |
| 05:28.41 | Amarande | the complaint was that Ally could do it at 50 and Horde had to be 77 |
| 05:28.56 | Amarande | (I'm pretty sure 50 was the bare minimum for even Ally, since you needed Master Cooking) |
| 05:29.08 | bleeter | i thought the complaint was you're still going on about it.. how much later? |
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| 05:30.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ~bleeter++ |
| 05:30.50 | tem | Amarande, do you seriously have nothing better to do than complain about bullshit no one cares about in this channel? |
| 05:30.54 | tem | because that's all you do |
| 05:31.15 | bleeter | anyways |
| 05:31.16 | tem | QQ Warlocks are underpowers (lol.) |
| 05:31.18 | bleeter | that's my job |
| 05:31.21 | tem | QQ Achievements favor Alliance |
| 05:31.26 | bleeter | and maybe Mr_Rabies |
| 05:31.43 | Mr_Rabies | i cut you |
| 05:31.49 | bleeter | :( |
| 05:31.53 | tem | I'm really sick of seeing you crying in this channel instead of the normal intelligent discussion |
| 05:32.02 | Mr_Rabies | how's it going bleetah |
| 05:32.22 | tem | (with the occasional OT whatever just for fun) |
| 05:32.23 | Mr_Rabies | still eatin roos and dodging giant spiders down under |
| 05:32.56 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies: that's about it |
| 05:33.09 | bleeter | I also discovered MS Office 2007 don't do voice recognition on XP |
| 05:33.30 | bleeter | so I'm very pissed off... gunna have to get Vista or W7 for my carpal tunnel foo |
| 05:33.42 | Amarande | skip Vista, W7 comes out in what, two weeks now? |
| 05:33.46 | Mr_Rabies | w7 is pretty nice |
| 05:33.50 | Mr_Rabies | i'm using the RC on my laptop |
| 05:33.55 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: office does voice recognition at all? |
| 05:33.57 | bleeter | lappy already has vista license, don't use it |
| 05:33.58 | Amarande | How well does it run WoW? :) |
| 05:34.04 | Amarande | and how memory hungry is it compared to Vista? |
| 05:34.10 | bleeter | upgrade license pricing unavailable at this time |
| 05:34.15 | Mr_Rabies | a lot better memory wise |
| 05:34.19 | Mr_Rabies | like |
| 05:34.24 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: yup, afaik comes with it from Office 2002 on |
| 05:34.31 | NightHawkTheSane | neat |
| 05:34.37 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: 'alternate inputs' from the installer |
| 05:34.38 | NightHawkTheSane | shame the rest of the product sucks so badly |
| 05:34.40 | bleeter | iirc |
| 05:34.44 | Amarande | maybe I should get it then ... perhaps my machine won't thrash as terribly alt-tabbing between wow and wowhead then |
| 05:34.45 | Mr_Rabies | i'm running 32 bit on a laptop with a 1.6 pentium m, 2gb of ram, and an x300 mobile video card |
| 05:35.02 | Mr_Rabies | full visual effects |
| 05:35.18 | Mr_Rabies | no stutter |
| 05:35.19 | bleeter | yeah I'm gunna def get it on the lappy, about the same specs but x1700 vid |
| 05:35.26 | Mr_Rabies | actually it's running better than xp on my machine |
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| 05:35.29 | bleeter | XP kinda does grind a bit but still |
| 05:35.31 | Mr_Rabies | because the xp drivers are ANCIENT |
| 05:35.34 | bleeter | better than vista |
| 05:35.35 | Mr_Rabies | for the vid card |
| 05:35.40 | bleeter | yeah I'm running hacked official drivers |
| 05:35.51 | bleeter | 'coz nameplates in WoW are all fucked up if I run official |
| 05:35.57 | bleeter | and Asus ain't shipped updated driver |
| 05:35.58 | bleeter | s |
| 05:35.59 | Mr_Rabies | i had omegas |
| 05:36.12 | Amarande | say, any speculation yet or PTR info on what the toy achievement will be for merrymaker this year? |
| 05:36.20 | bleeter | the nameplates get chopped by one or two letters on the official drivers /shrug |
| 05:36.24 | Mr_Rabies | because the official used to crash in any zone with blackrock mountain visible at any time |
| 05:36.26 | bleeter | the screen flickers on omega |
| 05:36.27 | Amarande | my achievement screen is still showing crashin and thrashin, but that's specific to the 2008 gift |
| 05:36.58 | tem | Mr_Rabies, I had that problem when raiding BWL back in the day |
| 05:37.03 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 05:37.11 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies: I'm still playing druid, best advice you ever gave me lol |
| 05:37.15 | Amarande | What was it about BRM that specifically made it cause crashes? |
| 05:37.15 | Mr_Rabies | bwl has like half of burning steppes in it |
| 05:37.16 | tem | I'd crash if I looked off the balcony in Nef's lair |
| 05:37.18 | Mr_Rabies | laffo bleeter |
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| 05:37.32 | Mr_Rabies | it's fun as hell, especially now that they're apprently possible to play really well in any spec |
| 05:37.47 | Amarande | Something to do with the effects used for the huge lava pit BRD is suspended above? |
| 05:37.52 | Mr_Rabies | i haven't played in over a year, i'd love to get back in but i just don't have the time |
| 05:37.57 | Mr_Rabies | possibly, i dunno |
| 05:38.02 | Mr_Rabies | anytime i flew there i'd crash |
| 05:38.02 | bleeter | once they fixed that nasty release time bug... that was there was only one weapon in entire NR suitable for druids out of instances |
| 05:38.11 | Mr_Rabies | bluescreen or lockup |
| 05:38.14 | Mr_Rabies | 100% of the time |
| 05:38.27 | Amarande | bleeter: what kind of druid build had that few weapons? |
| 05:38.29 | Amarande | boomkin? |
| 05:38.29 | bleeter | well, three weapons, all from the same quest so if you wanted to duelspec you were screwed.. then they did the whole conversion foo |
| 05:38.45 | tem | duel spec |
| 05:38.47 | NightHawkTheSane | I remember a fun bug in wrath beta, where mac clients would crash if they rendered certain models in HFP and hinterlands |
| 05:38.54 | tem | like for pvp? |
| 05:38.57 | bleeter | Amarande: you misunderstand |
| 05:38.59 | Amarande | can't be feral, there's tons of good weapons for feral now, especially with FAP |
| 05:39.11 | NightHawkTheSane | lots of fun trying to fly your horde DK down to stonard >.> |
| 05:39.12 | Mr_Rabies | fapfapfap |
| 05:39.27 | bleeter | there was only ONE quest in all NR that gave nice druid weapons... no world drops, nothing else ever guaranteed any druid suitable weapon |
| 05:39.43 | Amarande | bleeter: which quest? |
| 05:40.14 | Amarande | and are you saying even the BS 2H hammers weren't good enough either? |
| 05:41.12 | bleeter | maybe i'm slightly mis-remembering |
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| 05:41.34 | bleeter | at least, what I just looked at... would've been impossible as feral to have different tanking and dps blue |
| 05:41.42 | tem | I used my ZA staff until 78 or so for feral |
| 05:41.46 | bleeter | whilst finishing levelling |
| 05:41.50 | bleeter | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=12857 |
| 05:42.09 | tem | and I'm still wearing my damn priest on a stick for my resto set |
| 05:42.09 | tem | because a new staff just won't drop |
| 05:42.10 | bleeter | anyways, that whole FAP thing helped buckets for ferals |
| 05:42.18 | bleeter | should've been in release, or.. back in BC |
| 05:42.41 | tem | or they could have designed feral to actually weapon damage |
| 05:42.51 | tem | instead of having rediculous AP numbers |
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| 05:43.06 | tem | actually use* weapon damage |
| 05:43.07 | bleeter | still, these days all 4 types kinda work |
| 05:43.21 | bleeter | difference between feral dps and tank is annoying |
| 05:43.28 | bleeter | same tree, etc. |
| 05:43.33 | tem | anyway, I think the new way is miles ahead as better |
| 05:43.36 | bleeter | *same talent tree |
| 05:43.38 | NightHawkTheSane | tem: it seems like that would have had issues with disarming |
| 05:43.39 | bleeter | oh yeah |
| 05:43.47 | tem | I can't talk like at all right now |
| 05:43.53 | tem | my fingers are dumb |
| 05:44.02 | bleeter | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/6206742/Astronaut-urine-spotted-in-skies-above-North-America.html |
| 05:44.25 | Amarande | bleeter: I would have probably grinned and bore it and looked for something else for a feral, if I had been leveling mine at the time |
| 05:44.34 | Amarande | seeing as that's a G3 quest and I'm not sure how good ferals are at soloing those |
| 05:44.49 | Amarande | at least not before 77+ or so when you can start looking at the saronite stuff from BS |
| 05:44.58 | NightHawkTheSane | grr. ubuntu is taking its sweet time partitioning this disk. >.> |
| 05:45.04 | bleeter | Amarande: on release, was bugger all BS around |
| 05:45.14 | bleeter | unless one had been a druid BS... hmmm |
| 05:46.20 | Amarande | dang, actually, even the saronite stuff isn't so hot |
| 05:47.06 | Amarande | the only thing that looks like it might be ok is http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41185 |
| 05:47.08 | Amarande | but that's 1H |
| 05:47.13 | Amarande | and what would you do with the offhand slot as feral then? |
| 05:48.04 | Amarande | doesn't look like you really get good BS based gear for Feral till the titansteel stuff at 80 |
| 05:49.11 | Amarande | wow |
| 05:49.19 | bleeter | can't 2h as a druid |
| 05:49.20 | Amarande | I'm surprised how few BS recipes there seem to be |
| 05:49.34 | bleeter | at least, couldn't last time I thought about it |
| 05:49.38 | Amarande | I always thought there were more than that |
| 05:49.49 | bleeter | mind you these days i try not to think much |
| 05:49.52 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: er, what? |
| 05:50.14 | NightHawkTheSane | druids can use 2h maces, staves, (and since 3.1) polearms.. |
| 05:50.27 | bleeter | yeah I meant.. dual weild |
| 05:50.31 | NightHawkTheSane | ah |
| 05:50.34 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, they cant do that |
| 05:50.34 | Amarande | also, it's boggling me how useless titanium is directly for blacksmiths |
| 05:50.43 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: I blame the kids |
| 05:50.51 | bleeter | they had friends sleep over last night |
| 05:50.55 | Amarande | except for the titanium plating and titanium skeleton key, -every- "titanium" BS item is actually Titansteel, with the appropriate having to wait for/purchase CDs |
| 05:51.00 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: blaming kids is -always- a good idea |
| 05:51.12 | Amarande | as opposed to say JC that didn't use Titansteel at all, instead using titanium directly |
| 05:51.14 | bleeter | after midnight they finally shut the hell up, 5 pre-teen girlies RAGAHGHAGHERRGHHAGHAGH |
| 05:51.26 | bleeter | hence tired |
| 05:51.32 | NightHawkTheSane | ew. my apologies |
| 05:51.39 | bleeter | gotta get some sleep before noodles tonight TLAPD |
| 05:51.46 | bleeter | FSM etc. |
| 05:52.09 | bleeter | going to the pub to see a band whilst dressed as a pirate |
| 05:52.24 | NightHawkTheSane | hot |
| 05:52.29 | bleeter | soon as my fishing bobber stops disappearing into the environment in Black Market (Dal Underbelly) |
| 05:57.50 | Amarande | hmm. |
| 05:58.04 | Amarande | I'm going to suppose the very first thing I should do when getting my hunter to 80 with maxed engineering is to make a Nesingwary 4000. :) |
| 06:06.49 | bleeter | later folks. and in a strange sicko kinda way, good to hear from you again Mr_Rabies :P |
| 06:07.04 | bleeter | yarrrrrrrrrrr |
| 06:07.14 | Amarande | actually, my warlock is boring me. I think I should level one of my others. Maybe my hunter. :) |
| 06:07.16 | bleeter | SHIVER ME TIMBERS HOIST THE MAINSAIL AND AWAYYYYYY |
| 06:07.34 | Amarande | besides, if I can actually get all my alts to 80 this time I should be in a very good situation for Cat. |
| 06:07.52 | Mr_Rabies | night bleeter |
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| 06:11.02 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Shirik -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.2.x ToC: 30200 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Shiver me timbers, it be pirate day! arrrr! |
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| 06:16.38 | NightHawkTheSane | bah, brain fart, what's a good guideline for swap size? |
| 06:17.14 | NightHawkTheSane | like 2x physical mem? |
| 06:17.58 | Antiarc | hey Fisker, are you here |
| 06:18.26 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: Yes |
| 06:20.01 | NightHawkTheSane | thanks |
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| 06:27.00 | Shirik | 2x memory? |
| 06:27.07 | Shirik | I think.... that could be overboard |
| 06:27.14 | Shirik | depends on how much memory you have |
| 06:27.24 | Shirik | my server only has a 256MB swap file |
| 06:28.13 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, 4gb out of a 230gb disk is no big deal |
| 06:29.52 | Shirik | my server only has 15GB of space :D |
| 06:31.34 | cog|away | lua> string.byte("M") - string.byte("A") |
| 06:31.34 | lua_bot | cog|away: 12 |
| 06:34.41 | Shirik | Does anyone know of a good code coverage analysis tool for C++? |
| 06:35.12 | Shirik | The only one I've ever used is bullseye, and that's fairly expensive |
| 06:36.12 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont even know what that is. |
| 06:36.20 | Shirik | code coverage? |
| 06:37.10 | Shirik | As you write unit tests, code coverage specifies how much of your code is actually tested |
| 06:37.26 | Shirik | so one example of how to measure code coverage is how many lines of code have been run by your tests |
| 06:37.32 | NightHawkTheSane | wikis |
| 06:37.39 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, never heard that term before. neat. |
| 06:38.35 | Shirik | Maybe I just know these things because I'm in the aerospace industry |
| 06:38.47 | Shirik | the government has a lot of regulations on these kinds of things |
| 06:39.23 | NightHawkTheSane | its possible. |
| 06:43.03 | Amarande | hmm. |
| 06:43.10 | Amarande | wonder if it's going to turn out to be a mistake to level MM instead of BM. |
| 06:56.14 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, "your recipe is 4 to 1, isn't it?" "five to one. five parts gin, one moment silence for the vermouth" |
| 06:59.03 | DWSR2 | Amarande: Yes. |
| 06:59.12 | DWSR2 | BM = Ctrl+1, /afk |
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| 07:13.31 | Grum | Shirik: cant gcov just do the job for you? |
| 07:14.03 | Shirik | potentially, but I was looking for something a little more automated |
| 07:14.08 | Shirik | like Clover |
| 07:14.13 | Grum | script it? ;) |
| 07:14.26 | Shirik | sure, but how am I going to get that in a web form |
| 07:14.37 | Grum | euuuh? |
| 07:14.38 | Shirik | Clover is done right, but it only works for Java |
| 07:15.15 | zenzelezz | "Blueprint For a Quantum Electric Motor"... "Hey Steve, is your engine running?" "... I'm not sure" |
| 07:15.31 | Grum | oh you have coverage reports you can create using perl i think |
| 07:15.59 | Shirik | headdesks at zenzelezz |
| 07:16.11 | smcn | yay for weekends |
| 07:16.23 | Shirik | with gconv, Grum? Or some other tool |
| 07:16.28 | Shirik | that reads gconv's output |
| 07:16.45 | Shirik | of course there's the other problem of "I don't even know if I can run this software on Linux" |
| 07:16.56 | Grum | Devel::Cover (http://search.cpan.org/dist/Devel-Cover/ ) has tools to convert gcovs output to D::C accepted output so oyu can run all 'generate page' tools on it |
| 07:18.30 | Shirik | and I keep saying gconv |
| 07:18.35 | Shirik | which is something completely different |
| 07:20.23 | Grum | i havent actually used it myself though, well not c->perltoolchain-> output |
| 07:20.29 | Grum | i did some research to see if it was possible |
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| 07:25.35 | TC-Away | Ekky-ekky-ekky-ekky-z'Bang, |
| 07:25.35 | TC-Away | zoom-Boing, z'nourrrwringmm |
| 07:25.43 | Thunder_Child | ~fail |
| 07:25.43 | purl | fail is, like, what happens to you when you follow gamespot's game advice. standing in the fire. |
| 07:34.16 | NightHawkTheSane | bah. fuck me, i managed to miss the draenic pale ale on my druid >< |
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| 07:40.17 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: DON'T YOU SAY THAT WORD |
| 07:40.30 | DWSR | the one word that the Knights of Ni can never hear! |
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| 08:03.56 | Wobin | ... There's a comment for this cake recipe, for Tresleches, that basically boils down to "I substituted instant cake mix and a tin of vanilla icing for this entire recipe, and it was kinda alright...." |
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| 08:21.10 | Amarande | yay for the Glyph of Never Needing to Feed Your Pet Again, Ever. :) |
| 08:23.16 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies: I return, briefly, to give you... one of the best pieces of fuckheadism I've seen in since forever http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19820638906&sid=1 |
| 08:27.05 | industrial | Amarande: eh? you already never have to feed pets :p |
| 08:27.22 | industrial | they have talents that make them happy when damaging or growling |
| 08:28.58 | Arrowmaster | so whats a usually price for a horde to get an elwynn lamb? |
| 08:29.03 | [SW]Dodge | but those talents would only help if you do shit =D my hunters alt pet was hating me after sittin 1hr in IF and working on an addon :D |
| 08:29.18 | bleeter | [SW]Dodge: hah |
| 08:29.32 | bleeter | [SW]Dodge: but, you're so hatable :P |
| 08:29.48 | [SW]Dodge | ... NOT! :< |
| 08:29.56 | industrial | [SW]Dodge: .. just put the pet away then |
| 08:30.37 | industrial | they should just remove the happiness entirely imo. it was a failed idea of a few years ago |
| 08:30.46 | [SW]Dodge | i did but i recognized it very late so the pet already was QQ'ing ^^ |
| 08:31.28 | bleeter | industrial: nah I think the idea of 'some attention to your pet or it does less DPS' is not fundamentally flawed |
| 08:31.44 | bleeter | s/attention/reagent spend/ |
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| 08:35.25 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOu43zd8hLo >:O |
| 08:36.49 | DWSR | hahaha |
| 08:36.51 | DWSR | Happiness. |
| 08:36.55 | DWSR | There's a reason I'm a warlock |
| 08:38.16 | industrial | bleeter: warlocks have it easy then :p |
| 08:40.16 | Fisker | slaps industrial around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:40.19 | Fisker | do it |
| 08:42.13 | Wobin | how, are they comfortable over glasses |
| 08:42.16 | Wobin | er now |
| 08:42.34 | Wobin | cause I really don't care about the pretty lights |
| 08:42.41 | Wobin | cause I'm the only one that's going to see them |
| 08:42.54 | Wobin | and if they're on my head, I'm not even seeing them |
| 08:50.17 | Fisker | no but your mom is Wobin |
| 08:51.22 | Wobin | only if I forget to take them off when I go back to my parent's place |
| 08:51.33 | Wobin | and if they're -that- damned comfortable, then sure, I'll have a pair =P |
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| 08:59.19 | Amarande | btw, for MM hunter |
| 08:59.27 | Amarande | better to use a slow bow/gun or fast bow/gun? |
| 08:59.58 | Amarande | (or is it -almost always- the rule in general for weapon using classes, except for some notable exceptions to go with the slow?) |
| 09:00.13 | Wobin | well the slower has the higher end damage |
| 09:00.37 | Wobin | and if you're factoring in weapon damage in shots, then the slower will always be better for individual shots |
| 09:00.38 | Amarande | generally, apparently, if you go with fast you gimp most of your weapon specials |
| 09:01.00 | Wobin | not as bad now |
| 09:01.04 | Amarande | bah, grinding BS and eng is expensive |
| 09:01.07 | Wobin | since they delinked autoshot and steady |
| 09:01.12 | Amarande | only 54 more gold before I have to go back to my bankalt for more money, heh |
| 09:01.29 | Wobin | now you just have to make sure your steadyshot doesn't get hasted past the GCD |
| 09:01.59 | Amarande | what do you think about hunters getting a focus bar in Cat instead of a mana bar? |
| 09:02.34 | Wobin | I'll have to see how it works before making a judgement =) |
| 09:02.54 | Amarande | I suppose if they don't significantly reitemize existing hunter gear, we'll pretty much *have* to have Careful Aim |
| 09:02.58 | Amarande | otherwise, all that int goes to nothing :) |
| 09:03.23 | Wobin | they'll totally reitemize it |
| 09:03.28 | Wobin | since int will become useless |
| 09:03.34 | Wobin | aside from that one talent |
| 09:11.33 | Amarande | hmm |
| 09:11.37 | Amarande | 30 gold bars off the AH for 16g. |
| 09:11.40 | Amarande | you know |
| 09:11.51 | Amarande | either Gold Bars must be TINY, or our gold pieces are totally huge :) |
| 09:12.27 | nevcairiel | creating coins out of bars is just a very expensive task |
| 09:14.41 | Fisker | but meh Wobin |
| 09:15.01 | Fisker | i'd rather want them without all the wow attached crap :P |
| 09:15.17 | Fisker | just need a pair of wireless headphones that don't suck |
| 09:15.23 | Wobin | exactly |
| 09:29.40 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10920862600&sid=1 <-time to be a jackass |
| 09:34.08 | Amarande | good luck Fisker |
| 09:34.15 | Amarande | last time I tried wireless headphones, the signal was scratchy IIRC |
| 09:34.19 | Amarande | 900MHz FTL |
| 09:34.30 | Fisker | QQ |
| 09:34.36 | Amarande | on the other hand, I would love to have some good wireless headphones myself |
| 09:34.46 | Fisker | then i want wired headphones with cat repellant |
| 09:34.51 | Amarande | so I don't have to worry about the headphones getting unplugged while I am dancing to Ayria at stupidly loud levels at 4am |
| 09:34.52 | Amarande | ah |
| 09:34.57 | Amarande | your kitty likes to chew wires too? :) |
| 09:35.16 | Amarande | one of our cats is like that |
| 09:35.19 | Fisker | luckily my wires are pretty good for that but they like to think the wire is prey |
| 09:35.38 | Amarande | is off to the Badlands, since there seems to be insufficient Heavy Stone for sale on AH ... |
| 09:35.39 | Amarande | hmm |
| 09:35.44 | Amarande | what did I do with my Springsteen CD. :) |
| 09:35.45 | Fisker | >:o |
| 09:35.51 | Amarande | I need some appropriate background music. |
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| 09:45.12 | Amarande | you know, for all the things one might want to worry about |
| 09:45.19 | Amarande | I think I'm definitely looking forward to this new expansion in particular |
| 09:45.26 | Amarande | Azeroth won't be such a lonely place anymore :) |
| 09:53.57 | Amarande | mob evade behavior seems just totally odd sometimes :) |
| 09:54.09 | Amarande | instead of just seeing "ok, he's out of range time to evade and go back where I started" |
| 09:54.18 | Amarande | the mob will finish running up to you just so they can turn around and run back heh |
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| 09:59.18 | industrial | q twisted` |
| 09:59.21 | industrial | er |
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| 10:36.52 | Fisker | noes |
| 10:36.59 | Fisker | emblems of triumph have lost it's value for me :( |
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| 10:37.44 | Kazie | it's got a value? ^^ |
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| 11:07.49 | Fisker | oh snap Kazie |
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| 11:23.34 | industrial | Fisker: what why |
| 11:23.36 | industrial | any? |
| 11:23.38 | industrial | ony* |
| 11:24.08 | Fisker | naw |
| 11:24.39 | Fisker | just got so many i forgot to deliver my daily heroic :( |
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| 11:29.01 | Cidwel | hi all |
| 11:31.14 | zenzelezz | heya |
| 11:31.44 | zenzelezz | so it turns out my "Marvell Yukon issue" was that netconfig only wrote out the config for eth0, while the device was eth1 |
| 11:32.49 | Fisker | slaps zenzelezz around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:32.57 | zenzelezz | thank you sir |
| 11:33.14 | Fisker | i love you |
| 11:33.43 | zenzelezz | I'm sorry, my heart belongs to someone else |
| 11:33.55 | zenzelezz | it'll have to remain a purely physical relationship |
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| 11:35.30 | Fisker | sure |
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| 11:37.32 | Ycarene | So the FCC is setting up rules for net neutrality. |
| 11:38.10 | Cidwel | I have a question, Is normal that when i put something in a lua file and I try to run it, they are executed twice? |
| 11:39.15 | industrial | Fisker: I cant get my hands on a token to get t9 :| |
| 11:39.22 | industrial | so I bought a ring instead :p |
| 11:39.34 | industrial | the arp agi ring, its smexy. |
| 11:40.17 | Fisker | i might get the bloodshed band as well |
| 11:40.25 | Fisker | but it's not an upgrade currently because i'm hitcapped :( |
| 11:45.06 | Ycarene | Anybody have any experience with Rogue Gemming? |
| 11:45.40 | olafski | oh industrial, perhaps a possible feature for your addon could be that if you abandon a quest once, it won't auto accept it again afterwards |
| 11:46.02 | olafski | I tend to abandon instance quests cause I like to solo |
| 11:47.23 | industrial | I'd need to make an interface to un-abandon them from my list |
| 11:47.49 | industrial | Fisker: it was an upgrade for me purely for the arp rating - I still had nax stiff |
| 11:47.52 | industrial | stuff* |
| 11:48.02 | industrial | I'm at 44.5% ArP on my huntard now >:3 |
| 11:48.03 | olafski | un abandon? :< |
| 11:48.09 | industrial | almost softcapped with the trinket |
| 11:48.43 | industrial | olafski: yeah if I remember the names fo quests to not accept then I have a list and people will whine if they want to do it anyway and theres no easy way to get it out of that list |
| 11:49.38 | olafski | hmm |
| 11:50.01 | Fisker | tsk tsk industrial |
| 11:50.12 | industrial | I'd rather keep it simple :> |
| 11:50.18 | olafski | I'd say you could make an easy workaround by adding a slashcommand to turn off the "saving" entirely and one to clear the saved list |
| 11:50.22 | industrial | if I know I don't want to automate somewhere I just hold shift |
| 11:50.33 | olafski | oh right I forgot about shift :$ |
| 11:50.36 | industrial | ^^ |
| 11:51.15 | olafski | lvl 21 now, still liking your addon ;p |
| 11:53.51 | industrial | I wish blizzard would add API functions for the gossip. |
| 11:54.05 | industrial | and official docs for that matter |
| 11:54.13 | industrial | not that I don't like the currently available docs |
| 11:54.49 | industrial | having them 'officially' gives a feeling of security I guess |
| 11:55.29 | industrial | Seeing as they stated that they see wow and the interface as a long term investment it wouldn't be a bad choice |
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| 13:17.15 | foxlit | qq at cloaks clipping through mounts |
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| 13:33.29 | industrial | yep. |
| 13:33.41 | industrial | I like my chars better without cloaks |
| 13:33.50 | industrial | and usually helm too |
| 13:34.08 | industrial | after a while the helm just gets boring |
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| 13:50.42 | dardack | anyone know with an editbox how i set up the escape key to take the cursor out of the edit box? |
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| 14:07.09 | dardack | howabout this, in xml is there a way to capture the escape key when typing in edit box and then call clearfocus? |
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| 14:08.34 | Lopeppeppy | Ahoy. |
| 14:08.45 | dardack | got it |
| 14:09.38 | alestane | Heave to! |
| 14:19.56 | industrial | Shiver me timbers! |
| 14:20.31 | Lopeppeppy | Pass the rum! |
| 14:27.49 | Jerub | how do i write a macro that will use an item? |
| 14:28.00 | Jerub | i.e. /use Wolpertiger Net or something |
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| 14:30.56 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:31.37 | Lopeppeppy | or list it by bag slot |
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| 14:43.44 | Wobin | huh, I kinda like how the bots play off each other in #bookz |
| 14:44.19 | Wobin | the searchbots deliberately trigger the send bots in order to get more entries to index |
| 14:49.42 | Jerub | brewfest just started :) |
| 14:50.34 | Wobin | bedtime =P |
| 14:52.41 | Lopeppeppy | Brewfest and pirate day. Neat. |
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| 14:56.09 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, you awake? |
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| 15:02.13 | Fisker | i hope he's dead |
| 15:02.30 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, that's rotten even coming from you. |
| 15:05.20 | Fisker | :( |
| 15:05.40 | Lopeppeppy | Please wish him scurvy or something instead, that would be fine. |
| 15:06.04 | Adys | any registered directtv blizzcon customer here? |
| 15:07.12 | Fisker | i got the internet stream |
| 15:07.27 | Adys | Fisker: did you receive grunty yet? |
| 15:07.41 | Fisker | nope |
| 15:07.57 | Fisker | Was some guy on the EU forums that claimed that others had gotten it though |
| 15:10.40 | Adys | some guy here who still hasnt received it either |
| 15:14.01 | Lopeppeppy | They have been saying to allow 4-8 weeks, and that they're starting to get them out. |
| 15:16.03 | Lopeppeppy | gets Bluetracker via RSS |
| 15:17.13 | Aelobin | im trying to create an edit box in by looking at the xml for the one in StaticPopup, but i can't get it to work :< |
| 15:17.39 | Aelobin | any chance someone could tell me what i'm doing wrong. XML: http://www.pastey.net/125406, me trying to convert to lua: http://www.pastey.net/125405 |
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| 15:24.19 | Jerub | sigh, buggy quests. |
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| 15:43.29 | Lopeppeppy | afk erranding... |
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| 15:55.18 | Jerub | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19820328998&sid=1 |
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| 16:02.34 | Vilkku | Jerub, doesn't brewfeast start tomorrow? =/ |
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| 16:15.56 | actiong | its brewfest? |
| 16:28.39 | actiong | i rly wanted the kodo.. |
| 16:28.43 | actiong | but its random.. |
| 16:29.09 | actiong | it is on too. |
| 16:35.02 | actiong | i think its tomorrow |
| 16:35.08 | actiong | maybe i should take 1 moreday off |
| 16:45.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Aelobin: if I may, why convert it if it works already? |
| 16:45.37 | Aelobin | because then i can tinker with it ^^ |
| 16:45.40 | Aelobin | i dno, i just like lua :P |
| 16:46.04 | Aelobin | found a simpler solution now though :) using an inherit |
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| 17:07.34 | Cidan | Shirik: minion is broken |
| 17:07.39 | Cidan | also, hi |
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| 17:10.25 | Cidan | quiet day. |
| 17:10.33 | Lopeppeppy | Yaaar, matey. |
| 17:16.40 | Cidan | Is minion broken for anyone else? |
| 17:16.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Define broken |
| 17:17.10 | Lopeppeppy | I don't have it on the laptop, I can't tell. And yes, define the 'broken'? |
| 17:17.24 | Cidan | Oh, sorry; meh, it simple won't find/update. |
| 17:17.30 | Cidan | Seems to be a network issue. |
| 17:17.45 | Cidan | ie: searching for an addon, just sits there forever |
| 17:20.10 | ScytheBlade1 | works here |
| 17:20.12 | ScytheBlade1 | restart it |
| 17:20.17 | Cidan | did, many times |
| 17:20.20 | Cidan | may restart computer |
| 17:20.29 | Fisker | it's those damn australians Vilkku |
| 17:20.36 | Fisker | i hope they get wiped off the face of the earth |
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| 17:20.56 | Vilkku | damn aussies! |
| 17:21.50 | ScytheBlade1 | It downloads a catalog when you first search |
| 17:22.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Let it sit there for several seconds before trying a second search |
| 17:22.11 | Cidan | I let it sit there for about 10 minutes. |
| 17:22.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah that is definitely a network issue, but I can also pull down the catalog with a browser |
| 17:22.35 | Cidan | kk |
| 17:22.44 | Cidan | I'll figure it out; I didn't restart after I installed java |
| 17:22.48 | Cidan | prolly some sort of env |
| 17:23.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Doubtful |
| 17:23.14 | Cidan | hopeful. |
| 17:23.23 | Cidan | because I'm tired and don't feel like figuring out what is wrong |
| 17:31.07 | NightHawkTheSan1 | According to the internets, putting static info in your /etc/hosts file is the way to solve every routing problem ever. >< |
| 17:33.17 | ScytheBlade1 | pretty close! |
| 17:33.36 | Lopeppeppy | Peanut butter is the best lubricant for car axles, too. |
| 17:35.45 | NightHawkTheSan1 | and i still can't ping my laptop by hostname. |
| 17:36.12 | nevcairiel | did you put its hostname in /etc/hosts ? :P |
| 17:36.27 | Cidan | but you can by IP? |
| 17:36.57 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Cidan: yes |
| 17:37.05 | NightHawkTheSan1 | nevcairiel: you mean /etc/hostname ? yes |
| 17:37.09 | Cidan | what happens when you nslookup |
| 17:37.13 | Cidan | nslookup host |
| 17:37.16 | nevcairiel | NightHawkTheSan1, i mean what i say |
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| 17:37.48 | nevcairiel | there is no "magic" hostname lookup in linux like windows does with the smb protocol |
| 17:38.02 | Dagmar | Well, actually, that would be /etc/hosts |
| 17:38.15 | Dagmar | ....assuming your system resolver is set to look there first. |
| 17:38.28 | Dagmar | ...and assuming you've had the sense to install the rendevous or wins modules |
| 17:38.46 | Dagmar | Linux can do both Mac and Windows-specific local network name resolution mechanisms |
| 17:39.03 | NightHawkTheSan1 | sighs |
| 17:39.07 | NightHawkTheSan1 | you know what, nevermind. |
| 17:39.21 | NightHawkTheSan1 | is an idiot, and misspelled the hostname when he reset it |
| 17:39.26 | Cidan | lol |
| 17:39.33 | Dagmar | I don't recommend the wins resolution module tho |
| 17:39.54 | NightHawkTheSan1 | note to self, don't do sysadmin work before i've had a cup of coffee |
| 17:39.54 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSan1: You reset the machine because of a change to /etc/hostname? |
| 17:40.40 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Dagmar: er, no, i changed the hostname of the machine, and when i did, i misspelled it, then when i tried to ping/connect to it later, i was spelling it "correctly" and wondering why i couldn't |
| 17:41.46 | NightHawkTheSan1 | tldr: i'm a moron. :) |
| 17:43.32 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 17:43.43 | Dagmar | You know /etc/hostname has just about nothin' to do with host resolution, right? |
| 17:43.48 | Dagmar | You needed to put an entry in /etc/hosts |
| 17:44.11 | NightHawkTheSan1 | yeah, but the /etc/init.d/hostname.sh script handles that |
| 17:44.21 | Dagmar | It modifies /etc/hsots? |
| 17:44.25 | NightHawkTheSan1 | yes |
| 17:44.27 | Dagmar | I guess that's okay |
| 17:44.29 | zenzelezz | im in ur /etc/hosts, messin up ur routing |
| 17:44.35 | Dagmar | heh |
| 17:44.40 | Dagmar | Which distro is doing thta? |
| 17:44.47 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ubuntu |
| 17:44.54 | Dagmar | Not suprising I guess |
| 17:45.05 | Dagmar | i can't think of any reason why you shoudln't do that, I've just not seen a distro doing it before |
| 17:50.54 | nevcairiel | man my next laptop needs lighted keys, i cant type in the dark <.< |
| 17:51.05 | Lopeppeppy | USB light? |
| 17:51.14 | nevcairiel | thats too annoying |
| 17:51.20 | nevcairiel | just slightly lighted keys |
| 17:51.45 | nevcairiel | like my keyboard at home =P |
| 17:52.00 | foxlit | touchtype, problem solved. |
| 17:52.11 | nevcairiel | well its time for a new laptop anyway, next year i guess, need moar moneys |
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| 17:56.23 | Lopeppeppy | Start saving your pennies, a good laptop can be expensive. |
| 17:56.56 | nevcairiel | yeah well, after my bachelor thesis i'll finally start earning more money, so i guess at some point it will be fine |
| 17:56.57 | kdtresh | not if you have a brick and know the apple store security rounds |
| 17:58.09 | nevcairiel | i kinda want a thinkpad, they always seemed pretty solid to me |
| 17:58.18 | nevcairiel | but they are extra pricy |
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| 18:00.10 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: That behavior is typical of a proxy |
| 18:00.20 | Shirik | I'm working on figuring out how to allow for SOCKS through minion |
| 18:01.25 | Shirik | that's actually one of my current tasks |
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| 18:02.18 | Cloudwolf | Well TokenFrameContainerButton3Icon:GetTexture() returns odd values |
| 18:02.24 | Lopeppeppy | ... so not gonna say nothin. |
| 18:02.47 | foxlit | Cloudwolf: what, like, 3? |
| 18:02.55 | Cloudwolf | well an odd string |
| 18:03.11 | Shirik | like "3" ? |
| 18:03.30 | Cloudwolf | button 7 for me is the Alterac Valley Mark of Honor and it says its "interface\icons\ability_paladin_artofwar" |
| 18:03.34 | Cloudwolf | which doesn't seem right |
| 18:03.46 | ScytheBlade1 | That is exactly right |
| 18:03.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Try it before you knock it :) |
| 18:04.03 | p3lim | Is there some API to determine who's got Wintergrasp? |
| 18:04.04 | Cloudwolf | god well then blizzard names thing horribly |
| 18:04.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, yes they do |
| 18:04.22 | p3lim | Can get the time and if its in battle, but whos controlling it. |
| 18:04.30 | Dagmar | p3lim: There's a buff you should be able to check or |
| 18:04.33 | Dagmar | s/or/for/; |
| 18:04.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Though actually you're looking at the wrong row |
| 18:04.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Now that I'm sitting in front of WoW |
| 18:04.58 | p3lim | Well yeah, but the buff doesnt always apply, and it does not work outside of Northrend |
| 18:04.59 | Dagmar | If your side controls it, you have the buff and can get stone keeper's shards |
| 18:05.03 | ScytheBlade1 | The AV token is Interface\Icons\INV_Jewelery_Necklace_21 |
| 18:05.51 | Cloudwolf | except i did Button7Icon which is the button that my alterac valley mark of honor is on |
| 18:05.53 | p3lim | Just wondered if there were some "safe" way to determine it |
| 18:06.21 | ScytheBlade1 | You should check the row with GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 18:06.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Because mine is 9, and it returns that path |
| 18:06.36 | Cloudwolf | should it return soemthing differnt besides the /framestack macro? |
| 18:06.55 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 18:07.06 | ScytheBlade1 | That said, the paladin art of war icon matches the champion's seal |
| 18:07.21 | ScytheBlade1 | So I'm about 110% sure you just simply got the wrong row |
| 18:07.25 | Cloudwolf | freakin uttons keep changing thier values lol now its button 6 :P |
| 18:07.36 | foxlit | p3lim: totally borked but easy: check if you have the buff. |
| 18:08.27 | p3lim | foxlit: yeah thats one way, but its not "safe" enough. The buff doesnt always apply right away (on death/PEW) and doesnt work outside of northrend |
| 18:08.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah they don't change their value, it's a proper scroll frame so the buttons are static |
| 18:08.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Relatively static anyway |
| 18:08.47 | foxlit | hence "totally borked" |
| 18:09.03 | ScytheBlade1 | oh never mind, weird, it DOES change when scrolling |
| 18:09.08 | p3lim | yeah |
| 18:09.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Despite it being a scroll frame.. |
| 18:09.30 | foxlit | It's one of them clever scroll frames? :) |
| 18:09.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Doubly clever scroll frames |
| 18:10.08 | p3lim | Could scan the worldmap for colors on the keep objects, though it would still only work in northrend |
| 18:11.18 | Cloudwolf | but the odd thing is even when it changes its number |
| 18:11.21 | Cloudwolf | because of the scrolling |
| 18:11.26 | Cloudwolf | it still doesn't change its REAL value |
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| 18:15.12 | Cloudwolf | ok well this is driving me nuts... |
| 18:15.28 | foxlit | *Why* do you care about those textures? |
| 18:15.46 | Cloudwolf | because iw ould prefer to use them for the look of something iw ant to make rather than just text |
| 18:16.17 | foxlit | er? |
| 18:16.28 | foxlit | You want to steal those actual buttons? |
| 18:16.33 | Cloudwolf | im trying to make a frame that shows how many marks i have... |
| 18:16.37 | Cloudwolf | so i need the texture |
| 18:16.42 | Cloudwolf | so i can use it on my frames |
| 18:17.15 | foxlit | Yes, well. The pain you're experiencing is intentional and is a sign of going about things the wrong way. |
| 18:17.36 | Cloudwolf | then tell me the right way. |
| 18:17.48 | foxlit | Find the API function that returns information about token currencies. |
| 18:17.58 | foxlit | Live happily ever after. |
| 18:18.34 | p3lim | is there any number format functions that will format into H:MM:SS ? |
| 18:18.44 | p3lim | or do I have to create my own? |
| 18:19.03 | p3lim | (as in already made by blizzard, stupid to make two) |
| 18:19.08 | foxlit | p3lim: FrameXML might have some, Lua would not. |
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| 18:19.20 | p3lim | found SecondsToTime and SecondsToTimeAbbrev |
| 18:19.26 | Cloudwolf | !api token |
| 18:19.26 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'token': GameTooltip:SetCurrencyToken, GameTooltip:SetBackpackToken |
| 18:19.38 | ScytheBlade1 | !api currency |
| 18:19.38 | lua_bot | Found 13 possible matches for 'currency'. Please be more specific |
| 18:20.07 | foxlit | GetCurrencyListSize, GetCurrencyListInfo |
| 18:20.11 | p3lim | Yeah framexml might have some, though I cant find any else than those two |
| 18:20.46 | foxlit | p3lim: The two you listed are probably it. |
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| 18:20.56 | ScytheBlade1 | The awesome part about that API, is that it gives you the texture path. |
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| 18:25.46 | Cloudwolf | !api getcurrencylistinfo |
| 18:25.46 | lua_bot | GetCurrencyListInfo: Returns information about a currency type (or headers in the Currency UI) (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetCurrencyListInfo) |
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| 18:28.46 | Cloudwolf | seriously why couldn't they have named it something like INV_Token_wsg/ab/av/eots/ioc/etc |
| 18:30.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Because that wasn't the original usage of that piece of artwork? |
| 18:30.22 | Adys | no |
| 18:30.25 | Adys | that's not the reason |
| 18:30.27 | Adys | the reason is |
| 18:30.30 | Adys | brace yourselves |
| 18:30.38 | Adys | because blizzard LIKES DOING COMPLICATED SHIT. |
| 18:31.02 | Adys | also they could honestly have given them new artwork |
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| 18:45.09 | Dagmar | Adys: Well, would an icon with the letters "ROFL" in it really have been kosher with lore? |
| 18:48.47 | Cloudwolf | aparantly i dont knwo who to use textures via strings :P |
| 18:50.04 | Cloudwolf | that might be why dind't use .blp XD |
| 18:55.05 | foxlit | Hm, how odd. |
| 18:55.35 | foxlit | This youtube stream of FMA has subtitles in most european languages, but suspiciously lacks English. |
| 18:57.57 | Kaso | Has anyone noticed the pirate costume dropping randomly? |
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| 19:01.19 | Cloudwolf | to set textures i have to use settexcoord? D: |
| 19:03.36 | Zyn | the pirate costume is as stable as a fusion reactor |
| 19:03.44 | Zyn | dropping everywhere |
| 19:06.17 | mikma | stop playing a druid |
| 19:06.56 | industrial | dropped on my hunter |
| 19:07.41 | Zyn | went through the trouble of getting to BB, mow down rows of bruisers (yay Hated!), and then it drops a minute later when I hearth and fly of Dalaran |
| 19:08.05 | Cloudwolf | mine hasn't dropped yet |
| 19:08.08 | Cloudwolf | and im pvping :D |
| 19:09.57 | Dagmar | What do they drop off of? |
| 19:10.06 | Kaso | several of people i knows has |
| 19:10.12 | Kaso | My entire raid is ninjas now |
| 19:10.14 | Kaso | in protest |
| 19:11.37 | Dagmar | lol |
| 19:12.21 | Dagmar | Oh I see you mean the disguise |
| 19:12.25 | Kaso | yes |
| 19:12.29 | Kaso | Deviate fish |
| 19:12.38 | Dagmar | The buff from the commoner's supposed to last an hour |
| 19:12.53 | Dagmar | The buff from the Capn' is supposed to last 12 hours and through death (but not shapeshifting) |
| 19:13.00 | Kaso | we had the 12hour ones mine dropped about 2min after |
| 19:13.24 | Dagmar | Shapeshifter? |
| 19:13.30 | Kaso | nope, holy priest |
| 19:13.42 | Dagmar | Hmm... Sounds like a boog to me |
| 19:14.00 | Kaso | i just got the buff, teleported torny grounds went to repair and lost it as i was flying over the grounds |
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| 19:17.27 | Cloudwolf | only glitch iah ve atm |
| 19:17.31 | Cloudwolf | is my tabard looks like skin |
| 19:18.26 | Dagmar | Tauren skin? |
| 19:19.17 | Cloudwolf | no |
| 19:19.24 | Cloudwolf | my tabard looks like the pirate costume |
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| 19:19.54 | Cloudwolf | my tabard as taken ont he texture of the pirate costume lol |
| 19:20.01 | Cloudwolf | instead of justnot showing |
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| 19:58.39 | Shirik | mininininininjas |
| 19:58.56 | Thunder_Child | ~calm Shirik |
| 19:58.57 | purl | ACTION sooths Shirik, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm Shirik down. |
| 19:59.01 | Lopeppeppy | mmmmm, ninjas. |
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| 19:59.08 | Shirik | :D |
| 20:00.12 | Shirik | project management tools are expensive |
| 20:00.48 | Shirik | I have to find a way to get $12800, and that's cheap. |
| 20:01.11 | Lopeppeppy | Depends on what tools you're using and need, Shirik. Our group did well with dotproject, freeware funtimes. |
| 20:01.58 | Shirik | I need to exercise more too |
| 20:02.20 | Shirik | ^ my stream of conciousness is very spontaneous |
| 20:02.56 | Lopeppeppy | ^ |
| 20:02.59 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
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| 20:10.09 | Shirik | ok what do I eat for dinner |
| 20:10.15 | Shirik | pizza, wendy's, subway |
| 20:10.22 | DWSR | your foot. |
| 20:10.30 | Dagmar | If you're so spontaneous you can pick one at random |
| 20:10.32 | DWSR | and give new meaning to foot in mouth |
| 20:10.43 | Shirik | Dagmar: I said I was spontaneous, not a quantum computing machine |
| 20:10.53 | Dagmar | Actually, youa re. |
| 20:11.01 | Dagmar | s/a re/ are/; |
| 20:11.45 | Thunder_Child | you know Dagmar, it never seems to work when you use ';' |
| 20:11.53 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, subway |
| 20:12.09 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: Because it breaks purl's parser. |
| 20:12.16 | Dagmar | I don't really give a crap if the bot spews another line or tno |
| 20:12.25 | Dagmar | Frankly, I'd rather the bot not waste another line |
| 20:13.21 | nevcairiel | in that case, you should give other people some credit and let them fix it in their brains, and dont waste lines either :P |
| 20:13.39 | Shirik | brb |
| 20:13.42 | Lopeppeppy | Subway is marginally healthier, depending on what you get. |
| 20:14.07 | nevcairiel | subway is rather pricy around here, or the subs too small <.< |
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| 20:15.50 | Thunder_Child | a footlong here is ~ $5 |
| 20:15.58 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, same here. |
| 20:16.18 | Lopeppeppy | I'd rather make my own sandwiches at home, but if I had his choices, it would be subway |
| 20:16.41 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel, what do they cost there? |
| 20:18.55 | nevcairiel | 5 for a footlong, which is nearly 7.5 USD these days |
| 20:23.08 | Thunder_Child | you cant equate them though, it's local currency |
| 20:24.01 | nevcairiel | compared to other food i could get instead, its pricy =P |
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| 20:25.12 | Lopeppeppy | Wow, this pumpkin currant bread came out very nice. |
| 20:26.54 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, ping? |
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| 20:30.48 | Thunder_Child | mash has got to be one of the saddest comedies ever |
| 20:31.20 | nevcairiel | i could usually still laugh alot |
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| 20:55.07 | p3lim | Anyone here with an US account that can post something on the official forums for me? |
| 20:55.13 | p3lim | Its an interface request |
| 20:56.16 | p3lim | Pastey of the text here: http://pastey.net/125425 |
| 20:57.59 | End | what the hell, pitbull thinks everyone is wearing admiral's hats |
| 20:58.09 | End | in their portraits |
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| 21:06.25 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Do want. |
| 21:06.43 | Lopeppeppy | Cuddly kitty or my pumpkin bread? |
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| 21:09.51 | alestane | Either, but especialy the pumpkin bread. |
| 21:10.36 | Lopeppeppy | Kendra is never this cuddly, she's been all over me all day long. Not complaining, it's nice sometimes that my cat acknowledges the efforts I make on her behalf. |
| 21:11.31 | alestane | Is Rosie out and about, or locked up again? |
| 21:13.17 | Lopeppeppy | Jail until the stitches come out -- maybe Tuesday. Tuesday would be good. |
| 21:26.45 | industrial | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/09/19/1928245/DoJ-Recommends-NY-Court-Reject-Google-Book-Deal?from=rss |
| 21:26.50 | industrial | say I've been living under a rock |
| 21:27.00 | industrial | (actually I havent and follow slashdot by rss daily) |
| 21:27.07 | industrial | whats "the google book deal" ? |
| 21:27.36 | foxlit | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8264544.stm |
| 21:27.40 | foxlit | (Ask google, really) |
| 21:30.20 | industrial | :p |
| 21:30.35 | Thunder_Child | i think they should do oop books at least |
| 21:31.08 | industrial | object oriented programming? |
| 21:31.14 | foxlit | out of print |
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| 21:59.01 | foxlit | # And after all this time, it's probably not going to turn out that I'm the super-powered heir to a world that isn't there anymore. |
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| 22:36.54 | foxlit | Hm, youtube is hosting higher-bitrate H.264 than what you typically get in divx torrents :/ |
| 22:37.06 | foxlit | Looks so bloody brilliant. |
| 22:42.06 | foxlit | [Although some of that can be explained that I was watching it downsampled to a lower resolution than it was encoded at -- still brilliant. Annoying, really.] |
| 22:51.08 | [SW]Dodge | someone remembers the name of the addon for brewfest with quest where you ride these ram mounts? :D |
| 22:51.29 | Lopeppeppy | did you look for "brewfest" in addon searches? |
| 22:51.47 | Lopeppeppy | Not like there can be many of them. |
| 22:51.58 | [SW]Dodge | yes, curse client only has an mount farm queue addon |
| 22:52.20 | foxlit | I wonder if I still have mine. |
| 22:53.05 | Lopeppeppy | WoWInterface has addons too, yanow. |
| 22:54.21 | [SW]Dodge | yea i know but it was an ace addon |
| 22:57.26 | olafski | industrial: I have the feeling sometimes when your addon autoaccepts quests it doesn't really show that in my chat log :$ |
| 22:57.34 | Lopeppeppy | Doesn't mean it couldn't be packaged... oh, whatever. Go find something fun. :P |
| 22:59.52 | industrial | olafski: thats beyond my addon so it Should Work (tm) |
| 23:00.05 | industrial | I've had questgivers with 5 quests at once and it would just print them all 5 |
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| 23:06.23 | olafski | hmm |
| 23:06.27 | olafski | strange |
| 23:07.54 | Fisker | ebtw Adys |
| 23:08.00 | Fisker | i presume you has violet proto drake? |
| 23:08.26 | Fisker | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Ravencrest&cn=Fiskerdin&gn=Semper+Danica |
| 23:08.27 | Fisker | >:3 |
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| 23:09.59 | Lopeppeppy | Was dinner good, Shirik? |
| 23:10.11 | Shirik | dinner was pizza |
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| 23:12.28 | Fisker | aka good |
| 23:12.34 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew, aka very bad. |
| 23:12.43 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sorry, Shirik, but you're young, I think you'll get over it eventually |
| 23:12.56 | industrial | Fisker: grats |
| 23:13.29 | industrial | Lopeppeppy: in europe they make good pizzas :p |
| 23:14.32 | industrial | sigh mmo-insider |
| 23:15.03 | industrial | whats the use of 1:1 copying mmo-champion all the time |
| 23:15.15 | industrial | its just rss spam :\ |
| 23:15.31 | industrial | wish google added filtering to google reader |
| 23:16.21 | Gnarfoz | industrial: agreed, pizza = awesome |
| 23:18.07 | Lopeppeppy | I would be willing to try good pizza, but my problem is that I don't like tomato sauce, nor do I like garlic on crust (aka white pizza). So I get garlic bread and a salad when people order out pizza. |
| 23:20.12 | industrial | what about normal tomatoes or ketchup (not that that contains much tomatoes these days with all the other goo in it to conserve and addict you :p) |
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| 23:24.17 | Lopeppeppy | I love raw tomatoes. Ketchup has it's place with fries and burgers and hotdogs and stuff. |
| 23:25.34 | Adys | got my mount \o/ |
| 23:25.39 | Adys | Fisker: now i do |
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| 23:29.07 | KarlKFI | raw tomatoes can diaf |
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| 23:32.49 | Adys | Fisker: http://db.mmo-champion.com/latest |
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| 23:38.45 | Cloudwolf | BREWFEST tomarrow... (us that is) |
| 23:39.21 | Pneumatus | was gonna say, EU has it already |
| 23:39.36 | Dagmar | Finally I can get the title I wanted last freaking month |
| 23:39.57 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/c/23710/belbi-quikswitch/ |
| 23:40.00 | Adys | everything is up on the db |
| 23:40.02 | Adys | bows |
| 23:40.06 | Pneumatus | couple more days and there will be lots of violet protos flying around i think |
| 23:40.19 | Adys | I'm enjoying mine! |
| 23:40.29 | Cloudwolf | durp? |
| 23:40.32 | Cloudwolf | violet protos? |
| 23:40.37 | Dagmar | Adys: I did all the stuff last year |
| 23:40.40 | Cloudwolf | OH allt he achivements |
| 23:40.41 | Dagmar | ALL of it |
| 23:40.49 | Pneumatus | yeh |
| 23:40.55 | Dagmar | Blizzard just failed utterly to track anything during that weel |
| 23:41.09 | Dagmar | I drank the last beer needed last month. |
| 23:41.19 | Pneumatus | they didn't even retroactively award coren kills for people with her trinkets |
| 23:41.41 | Pneumatus | i think the only thing retroactively awarded was wolpertinger |
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| 23:41.51 | Cloudwolf | i gave up on geting allt he ahcivmeents |
| 23:41.58 | Dagmar | Yeah Iv'e got both of the mugs that summon beermaids, the mount, the goggles, three different colored hats, etc |
| 23:41.59 | Cloudwolf | and if ucekd up on an event |
| 23:42.04 | Cloudwolf | i missed it entirely due to school |
| 23:42.24 | Dagmar | Cloudwolf: I could care less about the drake, but I actually did want Brewmaster |
| 23:42.35 | Cloudwolf | and if only they added |
| 23:42.38 | Cloudwolf | pandarens |
| 23:42.43 | Dagmar | What dwarf *wouldn't* want that title? |
| 23:42.43 | Pneumatus | i just need another 245 brewfest tokens for another 310% mount |
| 23:42.55 | Cloudwolf | pandaren+brewmaster = epc lols |
| 23:43.01 | Cloudwolf | *epic |
| 23:43.37 | Dagmar | Hell I even made a Youtube video and overhead map showing my guild how to run the beer kegs in record-setting time |
| 23:43.53 | Pneumatus | mash buttan, eat apples, win |
| 23:44.09 | Dagmar | Nope |
| 23:44.48 | Dagmar | "mash buttan, eat apples, make 3 fewer tokens than me, or worse" |
| 23:44.49 | foxlit | Personally, I think they added a new apple basket this year. |
| 23:45.07 | Pneumatus | there's 2 between kharnos and the camp |
| 23:45.10 | Dagmar | Might as well |
| 23:45.13 | Pneumatus | dunno if there was 2 last year, i forget |
| 23:45.19 | Pneumatus | you can spam gallop the whole way anyway |
| 23:45.29 | Dagmar | I hear there's some retarded kids over at Cloverbottom who weren't able to get three kegs back |
| 23:45.55 | Lopeppeppy | Happens sometimes. |
| 23:49.48 | Dagmar | Just hitting both of those two it's almost impossible to fail |
| 23:49.56 | Dagmar | How a third one would be needed I just don't know |
| 23:52.49 | Dagmar | http://eshk-a-babble.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-to-win-at-brewfest-part-one.html |
| 23:54.16 | Dagmar | I made a more than a few seventeen lap runs after I wrote that |
| 23:59.11 | Lopeppeppy | Dagmar, not everyone has awesome connection speeds. One network lag and you've missed. |
| 23:59.25 | foxlit | Baskets are less than optimally responsive. |
| 23:59.34 | Dagmar | Considering that one merely needs to get _three_ laps to complete the daily? |
| 23:59.52 | Dagmar | You can almost just walk the goat back and forth to complete it |