| 00:00.01 | ArrowmasterClass | yes |
| 00:00.21 | Kraps | so i have to drop optimum |
| 00:00.25 | ArrowmasterClass | no |
| 00:00.30 | Lopeppeppy | No. |
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| 00:00.44 | Lopeppeppy | Go read the FAQs and stuff. |
| 00:01.04 | Kraps | i will but i gtg right now |
| 00:01.21 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.google.com/googlevoice/about.html |
| 00:01.31 | Shirik | Arrowmaster |
| 00:01.34 | Shirik | why do you taunt me |
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| 00:02.48 | ArrowmasterClass | Shirik: my cell phone is 5-6 years old |
| 00:02.57 | ArrowmasterClass | i dont fucking talk to people on the phone |
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| 00:03.49 | ArrowmasterClass | i dont even have my phone with me right now since i couldnt turn it back on after i unpluged it before i was leaving |
| 00:05.37 | MentalPower | Shirik: how's this one for taunt, I got an invite and *want* to use it but can't cause they don't like my 787 area code |
| 00:06.22 | Shirik | fu all |
| 00:06.23 | Shirik | give me invite |
| 00:06.27 | Shirik | google obviously hates me |
| 00:06.50 | ArrowmasterClass | you can pick any area code |
| 00:07.34 | Lopeppeppy | But it may not be a local call for local friends, depending on what you pick, might be what MP is running into |
| 00:08.33 | MentalPower | I got a maine area code (which is fine), but they don't let me add my 787 (puerto rico) area code cell phone as being part of that callgroup or whatever google calls it |
| 00:09.28 | Shirik | I don't think puerto rico is domestic |
| 00:09.32 | ArrowmasterClass | so you cant forward to your 787 cell phone? |
| 00:09.59 | MentalPower | Shirik: it is for every other cell company |
| 00:10.03 | Shirik | is it? |
| 00:10.05 | MentalPower | Arrowmaster: correct |
| 00:10.28 | MentalPower | Shirik: when you get a nationwide plan, you automatically get puerto rico, on any cell provider |
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| 00:11.10 | ArrowmasterClass | is puerto rico use 1 for country code? |
| 00:12.06 | NeoTron | good service, or not, google sure knows A LOT about you |
| 00:12.28 | NeoTron | they "read" your email, "listen" to your voice mail, track your calls (in and outbound), track your search and web browsing habits.. |
| 00:12.33 | NeoTron | that's a lot of information. |
| 00:12.38 | NeoTron | paranoids. |
| 00:12.59 | ArrowmasterClass | they read my postmaster and admin emails for two different domains! |
| 00:12.59 | MentalPower | Arrowmaster: yes |
| 00:13.12 | Bruners | if i want to alter the messages that comes from /chatwho channel, where should i start? is AddMessageEventFilter the way to go ? |
| 00:13.44 | ArrowmasterClass | going to update pidgin on my portable drive now while i have time |
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| 00:14.11 | Lopeppeppy | Alter in what way, Bruners? |
| 00:14.28 | Bruners | Lopeppeppy: i want to make the names as links |
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| 00:17.26 | alestane | Not sure. You can intercept CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL_LIST if you need to. |
| 00:17.32 | Bruners | http://pastey.net/124929 |
| 00:17.48 | Bruners | that gets me the right output except not to intercept the original message |
| 00:20.16 | Bruners | i have no idea how to work with AddMessageFilter :P |
| 00:23.16 | alestane | Well, the quick-and-dirty way is "ChatFrame1:UnregisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL_LIST")" |
| 00:23.31 | jnwhiteh | Bruners: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter |
| 00:24.03 | jnwhiteh | Bruners: those examples not work for you? |
| 00:24.32 | Bruners | jnwhiteh: havent read those yet, will do |
| 00:24.35 | jnwhiteh | Bruners: start with something simple.. add something to the message and see if it works |
| 00:24.39 | jnwhiteh | then move on to something more complex |
| 00:24.43 | Bruners | only gone through other addons |
| 00:24.47 | jnwhiteh | i.e. make sure your code is even being triggered first. |
| 00:24.55 | jnwhiteh | well the wowprogramming page should explain it pretty well |
| 00:27.02 | Kraps | "Your Google number isn't the number of your current mobile device or land line;" but it can be? |
| 00:28.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: it's more of a phone proxy than a replacement, so no |
| 00:28.44 | Kraps | Although you can't currently port your existing number to Google Voice, we hope to offer this option in the near future. Please tell us if this is a feature you'd like to see in Google Voice. |
| 00:28.49 | Kraps | frack |
| 00:36.05 | Cairenn | pouts about google voice not being available at all in Canada yet |
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| 00:36.23 | Torhal | Cairenn: They haven't taken over the world yet. Give it time. |
| 00:36.29 | Lopeppeppy | Time time time. |
| 00:36.43 | Jerub | doesn't it terrify you that if google has a glitch, you won't be in contact by email OR phone? |
| 00:36.46 | Jerub | it would terrify me. |
| 00:37.01 | Cairenn | they've been saying it is coming for Canada since what, March I think it was? |
| 00:37.12 | Lopeppeppy | That's too much time. :) |
| 00:38.18 | Cairenn | and Jerub, I went through that last Friday, actually |
| 00:39.05 | Cairenn | I have my home phone with Rogers, who also supply my tv & internet - and someone cut through their main fiber optic cable to my city last week |
| 00:39.18 | alestane | Um oops? |
| 00:40.44 | Jerub | Cairenn: yeah, that happened to us in brisbane a while back, optus is a major carrier, and their primary link went down, and while it was being repaired, a router on an alternate link blew up, leaving my entire state stranded. |
| 00:41.17 | Jerub | you couldn't even phone inside the city on optus connections because the billing system is the next state over, so their phone system didn't work unless it could talk interstate. |
| 00:42.05 | Lopeppeppy | And this is why I will never get my phone through the same company as my internet. :) At least with one or the other, I can talk to someone who gives a damn. |
| 00:44.22 | Jerub | my mobile is with the incumbent teleco telstra, and my internet is through a company who has entirely independant backhaul. :) |
| 00:45.09 | Lopeppeppy | That sentence didn't seem to be in common english. What is an "independent backhaul" ? |
| 00:46.30 | Jerub | Cairenn's cut cable was the cable used for Roger's backhaul. |
| 00:46.52 | Jerub | having independant backhaul means it's over a different cable or set of cables or transmission method. |
| 00:47.14 | Jerub | sorry, i decend into australian telecomms-speak. |
| 00:48.31 | Shirik|AFK | pack it up, pack it in |
| 00:49.36 | Thunder_Child | damn you Shirik for getting that stuck in my head |
| 00:49.47 | Shirik | :D |
| 00:51.02 | NeoTron | Imagine if Google went evil |
| 00:51.16 | NeoTron | or perhaps better yet - they are evil but very good at hiding it between fake good facades |
| 00:51.29 | NeoTron | awaits Google Soul. |
| 00:51.41 | Shirik | google soul sounds like some kind of music genre |
| 00:51.48 | NeoTron | where you can let Google manage your soul with benefits such as automatic conscience decisions and such |
| 00:52.09 | NeoTron | all for free, except that you sign over ownership of your soul when you die |
| 00:52.18 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd be okay with that.. |
| 00:52.20 | Thunder_Child | the problem with pretending to be good is that if you have to pretend hard enough....you are doing more good than evil |
| 00:53.19 | alestane | Read the middle years of ubersoft.net and you'll see how he thinks of Google...or at least thinks it's funny to think of Google. |
| 00:53.57 | Lopeppeppy | 999 is the CSS of the devil |
| 00:54.40 | Shirik | 999? |
| 00:55.10 | NeoTron | Thunder_Child: but the "Good" facade is just a way to build up sufficient souls for harvesting later |
| 00:55.22 | NeoTron | you're doing good short term, but in the end the goal of ultimate evil is maintained |
| 00:55.48 | Kraps | why is losing the phone lines to a whole city so shocking? case in point http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_Blackout_of_2003 |
| 00:56.08 | Thunder_Child | NeoTron, but you can never be obvious about it or it comes crashing down, which means you would always need to keep it going |
| 00:56.36 | Shirik | Kraps, that's.... not a city |
| 00:56.58 | Kraps | its bigger than a city |
| 00:57.21 | NightHawkTheSane | That blackout fucking sucked, by the way. |
| 00:57.28 | Kraps | and shows that infrastructure blows everywhere |
| 00:57.49 | Shirik | when you come up with a better way to do it, let me know |
| 00:57.59 | Shirik | they put a serious amount of thought into how these things are set up |
| 00:58.21 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: i was too shell-shocked to figure out if it sucked |
| 00:58.31 | Lopeppeppy | I remember that one pretty well, sucked muchly. |
| 00:59.03 | NightHawkTheSane | I had to go to work during it. Because despite half the city being out of power, the block of stores with the Target i worked at at the time still had power. >< |
| 00:59.04 | NeoTron | Thunder_Child: never said it was EASY being evil |
| 00:59.42 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: LOL at least you had air conditioning |
| 00:59.43 | Thunder_Child | NeoTron, it's easy to be evil, it's hard to be evil and have nobody know it |
| 01:00.08 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: or nobody cares |
| 01:01.49 | Thunder_Child | about you |
| 01:02.04 | Kraps | :( |
| 01:03.00 | Kraps | hey abe linclon is in this list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_leaders_who_suspended_the_constitution |
| 01:03.03 | Jerub | Kraps: oh, i'm not worried about that, the australian power grid isn't documented to be terribly misdesigned like yours is. |
| 01:03.09 | Shirik | java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot forward after response has been committed |
| 01:03.12 | Shirik | epic failure @ school |
| 01:07.00 | Lopeppeppy | Why must my cat play Siamese Ambush from under the couch? *sigh* So jealous, this feline. |
| 01:07.22 | alestane | Which one this time? |
| 01:08.09 | Lopeppeppy | Kendra, of course, Rosie is back in jail. |
| 01:08.32 | alestane | Cause she got to be a sewing project again. |
| 01:08.55 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, it's cute :) |
| 01:08.58 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, went back to Veterinarian Home Ec class, came back like a Sally rag-doll. |
| 01:09.05 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, tell that to my ankles! :P |
| 01:09.56 | NeoTron | Lopeppeppy: time to cut her claws |
| 01:10.01 | NeoTron | or get plastic claw caps :P |
| 01:13.56 | Cairenn | http://www.twitvid.com/49DD3 |
| 01:13.57 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 01:15.55 | alestane | Flying up to the Skybreaker always makes me nervous. |
| 01:16.48 | alestane | I always worry about those big props and turbofans. |
| 01:17.43 | AnduinLothar | lulz, no clipping |
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| 01:17.53 | AnduinLothar | they're moving retarted slow anyway |
| 01:19.19 | Jerub | i don't play enough. I stopped doing quests when i hit 80, i've just been logging on, doing a dungeon or two, logging off. |
| 01:23.50 | devZero | Holy crap... I just had a faction change get completed in less than 5 minutes |
| 01:24.24 | Jerub | devZero: filthy alliance. |
| 01:24.41 | devZero | huh? |
| 01:24.58 | Jerub | ;) |
| 01:25.06 | devZero | I'll cut you :P |
| 01:25.07 | devZero | haha |
| 01:25.19 | devZero | j/k btw |
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| 01:26.16 | devZero | hmmm... Gnome or Human, I can't decide |
| 01:26.28 | devZero | for a mage |
| 01:28.08 | Jerub | my experience is that everyone who plays a gnome regrets it. |
| 01:28.19 | Jerub | but they've got some stats bonuses that make them better for a mage. |
| 01:28.25 | devZero | I've got a gnome dk, but it's highly neglected |
| 01:28.49 | devZero | I can't bring myself to delete it since I spent the money on it's mounts, and cwf |
| 01:29.41 | devZero | I like the rep increase for the humans, but not sure if that trumps the increased int for gnomes |
| 01:29.48 | Jerub | the only reason i can see to play a dk is to get a midlevel gatherer set up in short time. |
| 01:30.35 | devZero | Meh, I did it to have a plate dps class, that I didn't have to spend forever leveling. I don't much care for dps on my paladin, I prefer to tank with him. |
| 01:31.39 | kd3 | I <3 my gnome mage |
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| 01:37.22 | MaxFrag|Chris | . |
| 01:38.10 | MaxFrag|Chris | If you would like a great deal on a Ventrilo for your Guild, then contact live support at www.maxfrag.net |
| 01:38.13 | devZero | I ended up going gnome |
| 01:38.23 | MaxFrag|Chris | If you would like a great deal on a Ventrilo for your Guild, then contact live support at www.maxfrag.net |
| 01:39.21 | alestane | Somebody want to zap that? |
| 01:40.23 | Thunder_Child | Shirik does |
| 01:40.36 | Thunder_Child | he never gets enough baning |
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| 01:41.48 | Thunder_Child | or Cairenn |
| 01:41.56 | Cairenn | :) |
| 01:47.46 | Sargeras | Cairenn |
| 01:47.47 | Sargeras | = |
| 01:47.48 | Sargeras | tease |
| 01:47.51 | Sargeras | I read that |
| 01:48.01 | Cairenn | Sargeras: read today's |
| 01:48.07 | Sargeras | I did |
| 01:48.11 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 01:48.12 | Sargeras | you tease |
| 01:48.28 | Cairenn | you love it |
| 01:58.08 | Shirik | is there a way to lock the damn action bars from paging? |
| 01:58.18 | Shirik | so they don't page when you shift+mousewheel? |
| 01:58.26 | Thunder_Child | change the key bindings |
| 01:59.52 | Bruners | string patterns i hate you! |
| 02:00.38 | Shirik | is it a keybinding? |
| 02:00.53 | Thunder_Child | go look |
| 02:00.55 | Bruners | just unbind it in the keybindings |
| 02:01.24 | Bruners | almost at the bottom in Action Bar Functions |
| 02:01.57 | Thunder_Child | stop helping him Bruners, he is prolly just playing peggle and waiting for us to tell him |
| 02:02.14 | Bruners | there is also a toggle action bar lock, no idea if that works |
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| 02:11.08 | Shirik | thank you Thunder_Child / Bruners |
| 02:11.30 | Kraps | server prog/gossip updates on twitter http://twitter.com/ANEUGossip |
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| 02:16.31 | Bruners | No chance i will ever need the Argent Dawn Valor Tokens again ? |
| 02:16.42 | Bruners | or Ebon Blade Commendation Badges |
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| 02:23.15 | Kraps | no |
| 02:23.33 | Kraps | are you exalted with Ebon Blade? |
| 02:23.56 | Bruners | with all the factions |
| 02:24.07 | Kraps | so you dont need that |
| 02:24.09 | Bruners | have just gathered up tons of tokens |
| 02:25.26 | Kraps | from when? |
| 02:25.52 | Bruners | daily dungeon quest and farming stratholme |
| 02:26.33 | Kraps | im guessing you're exalted with AD too |
| 02:26.42 | Bruners | yep |
| 02:26.52 | Arrowmaster | who isnt? |
| 02:26.52 | Kraps | heh |
| 02:26.59 | Arrowmaster | AD rep is super easy |
| 02:27.00 | Kraps | i wasnt |
| 02:27.12 | Bruners | its super easy now at least |
| 02:27.13 | Arrowmaster | i got exalted during the first naxx event |
| 02:27.27 | Arrowmaster | 18000 rep in a few days i think |
| 02:27.28 | Shirik | Just wiped to razorscale at 1.3k hp |
| 02:27.31 | Kraps | may 29th |
| 02:28.08 | Bruners | naxx had just been released when i started playing |
| 02:28.29 | Arrowmaster | i was one of the first people on my server in naxx i think |
| 02:28.32 | Bruners | or was to be released soon, not sure :P |
| 02:28.42 | Arrowmaster | in though, not raiding it |
| 02:29.01 | Arrowmaster | my guild broke up and stopped raiding then |
| 02:31.06 | Bruners | do you USA people know why there was a stop in TV shows this sunday/monday ? |
| 02:31.36 | Arrowmaster | i dont watch tv |
| 02:31.54 | Arrowmaster | i dont even have a working tv in this room anymore due to dtv transition |
| 02:31.54 | Jerub | i only download it. |
| 02:32.11 | Bruners | i don't have a TV so i "have" to download it |
| 02:32.42 | Arrowmaster | i choose to download because i like being able to watch it when i want |
| 02:33.44 | Bruners | give me the option to pay per episode and stream it and i would have done it |
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| 02:34.39 | Kraps | Bruners: there was? |
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| 02:37.14 | Oneheal | hey! |
| 02:37.24 | Bruners | Kraps: channels offering streaming? doubt it :P |
| 02:37.46 | Bruners | Kraps: except norwegian NRK that has most their stuff for streaming for "free" |
| 02:38.09 | Kraps | i meant tv was down? |
| 02:38.14 | Jerub | I stream abc.net.au stuff |
| 02:38.18 | Oneheal | I have a great idea for a PvP related mod but i am not very good with Lua if someone can help me I would appreciate it |
| 02:38.20 | Jerub | I've not used bittorrent in months. |
| 02:39.07 | Arrowmaster | i hadnt used bittorrent in months |
| 02:39.09 | Bruners | Kraps: True Blood and Entourage did not get aired at least |
| 02:39.27 | Arrowmaster | but then i built a new computer and no longer had all full harddrives |
| 02:39.35 | Dagmar | heh |
| 02:39.40 | Arrowmaster | and now im at 225gigs of traffic for the past 30 days....... |
| 02:39.41 | Bruners | have been using bittorrent for about 6 years now constantly :P |
| 02:39.44 | Dagmar | I went on a cleaning spree last night uninstalling stuff |
| 02:40.23 | Oneheal | is there anyone here that can help me with an Lua issue? |
| 02:40.25 | Dagmar | Bruners: Maybe you can pitch in on trying to convince the kiddies on the forums to be more bloody patient during the next patch |
| 02:41.04 | Bruners | Dagmar: next patch, forum, kiddies? :P |
| 02:41.04 | Dagmar | They start the torrent, and expect it's going to be going full-tilt right off the bat |
| 02:41.23 | Dagmar | ...then they go whine and moan on the forums and talk about the other tools and places to download it from |
| 02:41.47 | Dagmar | ...when if they'd just let the thing do it's business it'd probably be done before they could find an "elite" way to do it |
| 02:42.03 | Arrowmaster | ive been getting my recent tv shows from xdcc bots mostly |
| 02:43.18 | Bruners | before torrent it was mostly dcc or ftp |
| 02:43.29 | Arrowmaster | usenet |
| 02:43.40 | Arrowmaster | usenet is always the best for new releases |
| 02:43.57 | Dagmar | Assuming your provider has full feeds |
| 02:44.04 | Bruners | ftp dump box > * |
| 02:44.24 | Dagmar | Rapidshare |
| 02:44.25 | Arrowmaster | isps have droped their usenet servers now though |
| 02:44.30 | Arrowmaster | rapidshare is crap |
| 02:44.36 | Arrowmaster | i dont see why anybody fucking uses it |
| 02:44.51 | Dagmar | I'e not had a problem with it. |
| 02:44.53 | Bruners | apparently you can find most things there |
| 02:44.56 | Bruners | if you pay for it |
| 02:44.59 | Dagmar | I use it to get the PTR patches half the time |
| 02:45.13 | Dagmar | I kinda wish it was not like that |
| 02:45.16 | Bruners | but paying for pirates doing pirate things isnt my cup of tea |
| 02:45.18 | Kraps | epic fail, i hadnt turned in any of the shadow vault dailies yesterday |
| 02:45.34 | Dagmar | I'm not using it for pirated things |
| 02:45.51 | Dagmar | I worry that if they *do* clean up their act they won't be viable anymore |
| 02:46.18 | Bruners | rapidshare is wildy used by 4chan at least |
| 02:46.33 | Bruners | i don't even dare to think what they put on there |
| 02:46.38 | Dagmar | Probably because they do little content checking |
| 02:46.58 | Dagmar | You probably don't want to do a google search targeting that then |
| 02:50.21 | Dagmar | Frankly, I'd be quicker to give Rapidshare money than I would Fileplanet |
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| 03:03.24 | cog|away | hai Sixen |
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| 03:22.41 | Iriel | Dont suppose anyone here happened to pick up the Beatles "Stereo" box set today? |
| 03:24.43 | alestane | My firend was planning to pick up something, but I think it was a "game only" package, not sure what he got. |
| 03:24.57 | Iriel | Probably Beatles Rock Band? |
| 03:25.00 | Sixen | hai cog, =] |
| 03:25.01 | Dagmar | heh |
| 03:25.24 | alestane | Sorry, I assumed you were talking about Rock Band, I know you've mentioned it before. |
| 03:25.48 | Iriel | THat I was able to get my hands on today.. sadly best buy screwed up and sold my reserved copy of Stereo |
| 03:26.04 | Iriel | (remastered CD's, plus some other stuff) |
| 03:26.33 | Dagmar | This is what I see on my end http://pastebin.com/d27274267 |
| 03:26.36 | Dagmar | wrong channel |
| 03:27.05 | alestane | "Just like the time I ran naked through Tinkertown with a loud murloc on my head!" |
| 03:27.10 | alestane | "...mistell..." |
| 03:27.39 | Shirik | Ok |
| 03:27.51 | Shirik | I have determined programming with a language in which everything happens at the same time.... sucks |
| 03:28.04 | Dagmar | I'm at a coffee house, and the connection here is heavily lagged. Switching between subwindows doesn't always land on the same one |
| 03:28.04 | Iriel | heh |
| 03:28.22 | Dagmar | Shirik: It is event-driven, no? |
| 03:28.30 | Shirik | Not necessarily Dagmar |
| 03:28.30 | alestane | Computers don't usually do so well on "everything happens at the same time" |
| 03:28.42 | Dagmar | Reality doesn't do well on "everything happens at once" |
| 03:28.46 | Dagmar | We have time to keep things orderly |
| 03:29.00 | Shirik | Anyway, Verilog is the only language I have encoutnered where you can actually write something that has zero code related to something, but influences it anyway |
| 03:29.21 | alestane | "Philosophers have determined that the smallest unit of time in which everything can happen is "72 hundred million years. |
| 03:29.46 | Shirik | alestane, FPGAs run things in parallel. It really does happen simultaneously. Perhaps not "everything" but "everything we care about" |
| 03:30.16 | alestane | ~wiki FPGA |
| 03:30.33 | alestane | ~g FPGA |
| 03:30.42 | Shirik | It's basically an electronically-rewirable integrated circuit |
| 03:30.52 | Shirik | You write Verilog code which tells it how to wire itself |
| 03:31.03 | Legorol | Field Programmable Gate Array? (just guessing here) |
| 03:31.06 | Shirik | yes |
| 03:31.07 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
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| 03:35.45 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.2.x ToC: 30200 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | "Wasted time by wearing a starfish on my head. Starfish very very annoyed. Put starfish back. Starfish seemed happier." - Tierre |
| 03:35.46 | Dagmar | I spun the toon around and thought "Oh god what is THAT?" |
| 03:35.54 | alestane | They said somewhere in the background that Asmodeans have developed manes in their cold world. |
| 03:36.06 | Dagmar | Yeah the manes don't mesh so well with the hairstyles |
| 03:36.22 | alestane | Not that they really seem like they'd keep you that warm. |
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| 03:36.50 | alestane | Cool idea, sort of, but they didn't quite develop it in a visually integrated way. |
| 03:37.01 | Dagmar | They dance like strippers but that back hair totally kills it |
| 03:37.29 | Dagmar | I imagine some people are going to regret their choice of toon size |
| 03:37.32 | alestane | Are they the new mailbox dancers, are they? |
| 03:37.53 | Dagmar | It's definitely a stripper dance they do |
| 03:38.24 | Dagmar | ...and not exactly the classy kind Blizz hired for motion cap |
| 03:38.58 | alestane | Night all. |
| 03:39.07 | Dagmar | There'll probably be the usual contingent of one-handed idling boys, but probably not on _that_ faction |
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| 03:47.29 | WobWork | what's the bet the back hair will clip terribly with some armour =P |
| 03:48.09 | kd3 | grr |
| 03:48.24 | kd3 | loose sata cables causing heart attacks are a pain |
| 03:48.33 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 03:48.38 | Dagmar | Probably not as high as the odds some people will look at that and say "Nope. Not this faction," |
| 03:48.41 | ScytheBlade1 | So glad I ditched my old and crappy ones ages ago |
| 03:48.58 | kd3 | I'm putting in a newegg order as we speak |
| 03:49.46 | ScytheBlade1 | 3Gbit SATA cables with clips that prevent the cables from coming loose |
| 03:51.12 | kd3 | good lord... my drives have been on for 637 days |
| 03:51.29 | Dagmar | THat makes computing MTF easy |
| 03:51.44 | WobWork | "Soon"? |
| 03:51.48 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 03:52.14 | Dagmar | I was thinking more like "when run days == real days" |
| 03:53.20 | Shirik | [2. Trade] [Funcrusher] DPS looking for HUP |
| 03:53.29 | Shirik | Is it bad that I immediately think `killall -HUP Funcrusher` |
| 03:54.24 | WobWork | wow, you really are a funcrusher =( |
| 03:54.43 | Jerub | a HUP is just a hangup. it often means to restart or re-read the configurtion. |
| 03:54.48 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: meh... my pair of 500GB drives are at 903 days, my newer 1.5TB drive is at 156 days |
| 03:55.00 | Jerub | ponders running a job to query all his drives. |
| 03:55.26 | Shirik | Jerub: Sure |
| 03:55.31 | Shirik | but you can still send that signal |
| 03:55.49 | Bruners | what app are you using to watch disk life time ? |
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| 03:55.52 | Shirik | just because that's what it's for doesn't mean that's what you have to use it for |
| 03:56.11 | kd3 | smartctl can do it... but I'm using palimpsest |
| 03:56.22 | ScytheBlade1 | smartctl --all /dev/sdX |
| 03:56.54 | Bruners | my gentoo doesnt have that |
| 03:57.02 | Fisker | yay |
| 03:57.09 | Bruners | hai Fisker |
| 03:57.11 | kd3 | it's probably in /sbin, not /usr/bin |
| 03:57.11 | Fisker | looks like Blizzard is trying to limit a bit of bg abuse |
| 03:57.59 | Jerub | Fisker: how's that? |
| 03:58.11 | Fisker | +ERR_BATTLEGROUND_TOO_MANY_QUEUES = "You can only be queued for 2 battles at once"; |
| 03:58.11 | Fisker | +MAX_BATTLEFIELD_QUEUES = 2; |
| 03:58.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker: old |
| 03:58.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker: also slow |
| 03:58.36 | Fisker | I got W-W-W-WINDOWS UPDATE'd |
| 03:58.38 | Jerub | :( |
| 03:58.51 | Jerub | I should do more ioc. |
| 03:58.53 | Bruners | uhm, how is queueing abusing? |
| 03:59.05 | Bruners | should just get removed from queue when you enter one ? |
| 03:59.12 | Jerub | what shit me was in the 70-79 bracket ioc would queue for 90 minutes before you got to play. |
| 03:59.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Bruners: you can (currently) queue up for every BG and just accept them as you please |
| 03:59.32 | Fisker | Sure but it'll make the matchmaking system start putting people together when only 50% of the queued people will actually enter |
| 03:59.56 | Shirik | Bruners: [ebuild R ] sys-apps/smartmontools-5.38 USE="-minimal -static" 0 kB |
| 04:00.30 | Kraps | http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/01/usaf-blog-respo/ |
| 04:00.34 | Fisker | we've been responsible for more crusader runs on our 2 10-man hardmode runs than all of our 25-man runs |
| 04:00.34 | Fisker | ;E |
| 04:01.06 | Jerub | Fisker: I can't parse that. can you say that another way? |
| 04:01.18 | Shirik | Kraps: wow |
| 04:01.34 | Fisker | what Jerub the bg queue? |
| 04:02.19 | Jerub | no, the crusader run thing |
| 04:02.45 | Fisker | That we've gotten more crusader orbs on our 10-man hardmode than we've gotten on 25-man? |
| 04:03.04 | Bruners | Shirik: thanks |
| 04:03.07 | Shirik | Kraps: Suprisingly, that is very ... well done |
| 04:04.07 | Jerub | oh, rihgt, you didn't say 'orb' before ;) |
| 04:04.35 | Jerub | you accidentally a whole noun there. |
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| 04:05.23 | Fisker | doh |
| 04:05.28 | Fisker | well it's 6am |
| 04:06.39 | Gnarfoz | it is :o |
| 04:06.57 | Jerub | it's 2pm! |
| 04:07.16 | Fisker | Concepts of time may vary from person to person |
| 04:07.17 | Fisker | :P |
| 04:07.18 | Bruners | its Fiskertime! |
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| 04:08.16 | Shirik | Fiskertime is meaningless |
| 04:08.29 | Shirik | Fiskertime: It is currently /trout-o-clock |
| 04:09.27 | Fisker | http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:GoofyTiem.png <-reminds me of that |
| 04:13.19 | tem | man, I'm really disappointed that you can't RAF summon people into Ebon Hold |
| 04:13.37 | tem | I made a level 1 warrior named Inurbase that was to be my coding alt |
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| 04:14.10 | Fisker | was it to be in ur base? |
| 04:14.17 | Fisker | something weird happened :O |
| 04:14.23 | Fisker | brb |
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| 04:16.36 | Fisker | Probably gonna get some moar sleep |
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| 04:26.37 | Shirik | so I picked up an mx1100 |
| 04:26.43 | Shirik | best mouse I ever had |
| 04:26.53 | Shirik | I only have one problem with it: Wanted one of those mini-receivers |
| 04:27.23 | Jerub | my G7 has started to get really 'jumpy' |
| 04:27.43 | Jerub | really bad for my healbotting. i'm back onto my mighty mouse |
| 04:27.47 | Shirik | I really think it's cool that I can switch between a clicky mousewheel and a smooth mousewheel |
| 04:28.25 | kd3 | oh I love my mxrevo |
| 04:28.32 | kd3 | though I've only ever got my scroll wheel in smooth mode |
| 04:28.36 | Jerub | my work mouse is a revolution i think. |
| 04:28.44 | Jerub | hm, no, it can't be. |
| 04:29.18 | Shirik | There are certain situations I need clicky |
| 04:29.22 | Shirik | and certain ones I need smooth |
| 04:29.23 | Shirik | so it's kinda nice |
| 04:29.43 | Shirik | well don't really "need" smooth but it's nicer |
| 04:29.48 | Jerub | ah, mx400 is my work mouse |
| 04:32.06 | Fisker | hmm |
| 04:32.09 | Fisker | i just did a transmute |
| 04:32.12 | Fisker | and there's no 20 hour cooldown |
| 04:32.19 | Jerub | Fisker: yep. |
| 04:32.32 | Jerub | Fisker: quick, do a realm transfer or change factions, that'll reset your cooldown |
| 04:32.46 | Fisker | there is no cooldown |
| 04:32.53 | Jerub | wait. |
| 04:32.55 | Jerub | what? |
| 04:33.22 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 04:33.49 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jow7c0EVXeM |
| 04:33.54 | Fisker | haha |
| 04:34.01 | Fisker | i could transmute 2 items |
| 04:34.54 | Bruners | Fisker: report it, and tell them to take it back! |
| 04:34.59 | Fisker | no! |
| 04:35.57 | Bruners | the whole faction change is just.... |
| 04:36.11 | Jerub | Bruners: WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH EURASIA. |
| 04:36.43 | Fisker | why won't you die? |
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| 04:38.47 | Bruners | Jerub: no idea what that means |
| 04:38.58 | kd3 | go read 1984 |
| 04:39.26 | Bruners | dont care much about 25 years ago |
| 04:39.48 | Fisker | plants a bomb |
| 04:40.01 | Fisker | l2continents Bruners |
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| 04:40.49 | Bruners | there is USA, Asia, Norway, Europe and Australia ? |
| 04:41.13 | Jerub | Fisker: you don't know the reference either do you? |
| 04:41.18 | Fisker | no |
| 04:41.24 | Fisker | But i know what Eurasia is |
| 04:41.54 | Bruners | since you are not going to tell me i doubt it matters much :P |
| 04:42.20 | Fisker | that would spoil the fun! |
| 04:42.47 | Bruners | suddenly a wild wintergrasp queue appears |
| 04:43.02 | Thunder_Child | ~wiki Eurasia |
| 04:43.04 | Thunder_Child | there |
| 04:43.04 | Jerub | in the novel 1984 there were 3 supercounties, eurasia, oceania and eastasia. oceania was allied with eurasia against eastasia. |
| 04:43.48 | Jerub | except when they changed their alliance to ally with eastasia against eurasia, at which point all historical records were rewritten to say that oceanisa hda always been at war with eastasia, etc. |
| 04:44.32 | Jerub | I was making a reference to the 'us vs. them whoever they are' mentality exposed in the book 1984 that can be condensed to the 'horde vs. alliance' thing as well as faction changing. |
| 04:44.45 | Jerub | I fear it might have been a little too deep for this crowd, but kd3 got it. |
| 04:45.27 | ajmitch | 1984 is one of those books that everyone at least knows about |
| 04:47.13 | Torhal | [00:39] <Bruners> dont care much about 25 years ago <-- Classic response. |
| 04:48.24 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 04:48.40 | Fisker | the response can't be more than 9 months old |
| 04:48.41 | Jerub | I thought it was a pretty funny quip myself. |
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| 04:55.42 | Kraps | wiping twice on trollgore? no thanks |
| 05:02.02 | Bruners | 0701.20| [Blizzcrgyil] < Hi,Blizzard is about to launch a new mounts,Free trial,For more information, please log in:eu.battleeurope.net |
| 05:02.08 | Bruners | superb! |
| 05:02.49 | Kraps | hurries to get a new free mounts |
| 05:03.18 | Fisker | omg crgyil is giving you a mount |
| 05:04.18 | Bruners | the sad thing is, a lot of people are clicking that link |
| 05:04.22 | Gnarfoz | could someone nuke those fucker :\ |
| 05:04.26 | Kraps | oh wow i didnt see that, thats cold |
| 05:04.27 | Gnarfoz | *s |
| 05:05.02 | Bruners | cant we just fill their pages with fake logins ? :P |
| 05:05.16 | Jerub | oh, sure, i can do that. |
| 05:05.19 | Jerub | cracks knuckles. |
| 05:05.53 | Bruners | hmm, firefox tells me that page is blocked! |
| 05:06.26 | Bruners | ignore this warning! |
| 05:07.02 | Kraps | this is pretty cool http://blackeri.deviantart.com/gallery/#Deadly-Sins |
| 05:08.18 | Bruners | do i want BadBoy antispam or CCleaner ? |
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| 05:09.17 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: BadBoy |
| 05:09.31 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: they are both BadBoy |
| 05:09.40 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 05:09.43 | Gnarfoz | BadBoy |
| 05:10.01 | Gnarfoz | I don't know their "fancy names", that's what the actual addon folder is called :\ |
| 05:10.02 | Bruners | BadBou: Anti Spam Automatic Reporter |
| 05:10.13 | Gnarfoz | well, that's the one. |
| 05:10.16 | Bruners | BadBoy_CCleaner: Filter crap from chat |
| 05:10.25 | Gnarfoz | that doesn't sound like "antispam" to me :) |
| 05:10.26 | Bruners | both written by Funkeh` and updated recently |
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| 05:10.57 | Bruners | reading descriptions does the trick sometimes :P |
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| 05:18.41 | Kraps | night |
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| 07:14.50 | Cairenn | points at KarlKFI|work |
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| 07:20.37 | Fisker | destroys Cairenn |
| 07:20.44 | Cairenn | cries |
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| 07:22.16 | cogwheel | puts Cairenn back together again |
| 07:22.23 | Cairenn | thanks cogwheel |
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| 07:31.00 | Shirik | anyone here do 2v2s? |
| 07:31.06 | Shirik | How do you fight against a resto druid and a ret pally? |
| 07:31.55 | Elkano | Shirik, that's exactly how my 2on2 team looks ^^' |
| 07:32.03 | Shirik | yeah well SCREW YOU |
| 07:32.07 | Elkano | we suck though ^^ |
| 07:32.26 | Fisker | i win Shirik |
| 07:33.17 | Fisker | i'm arguing against people who think it's not piracy if one were to use fake credentials and setup a msdnaa account for $20 a year |
| 07:33.25 | Elkano | but I think priest/warriro could be a good counter |
| 07:33.27 | Fisker | apparently i'm a troll :( |
| 07:34.36 | Fisker | ret palas suck anyways |
| 07:36.48 | Fisker | Cairenn's internet couldn't take the news |
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| 07:46.21 | WobWork | The awesome thing about this job |
| 07:46.24 | WobWork | is that I'm never idle |
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| 07:59.28 | ReAn` | http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/09/this-clip-is-proof-that-birds-are-secretly-composers/ |
| 07:59.57 | Cairenn | heh, yeah, that's been getting linked all over the place today :) |
| 08:00.21 | Cairenn | it's pretty cool |
| 08:00.32 | ReAn` | :) |
| 08:11.59 | Fisker | hey Cairenn |
| 08:12.08 | Fisker | we need about 23 healers for this 10-man voa run |
| 08:12.11 | Fisker | care to join? |
| 08:12.15 | Cairenn | heh |
| 08:12.17 | Cairenn | pass, thanks |
| 08:12.25 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 08:12.49 | Fisker | i just love this |
| 08:12.55 | Fisker | Koralon is a DPS race |
| 08:13.00 | Fisker | but this guy insists on using 3 healers |
| 08:13.07 | Fisker | "Omg you take too much damage" |
| 08:13.21 | Fisker | Well maybe i would take less damage if the debuff that increases his damage done didn't stack to a bazillion |
| 08:13.54 | ReAn | it's a soft enrage |
| 08:14.00 | ReAn | basically >_> |
| 08:14.12 | jnwhiteh | 2 healers, 8 dps |
| 08:14.13 | ReAn | like gruul on crack |
| 08:14.15 | jnwhiteh | if the dps aren't slackers |
| 08:14.20 | Fisker | Then again i only have experience in heroic mode trial of the crusader |
| 08:14.20 | jnwhiteh | 3 healers, 7 dps if they suck. |
| 08:14.29 | Fisker | no tanks jnwhiteh? .3 |
| 08:14.29 | jnwhiteh | in theory, if they have enough HP to last the fight |
| 08:14.34 | ReAn | 2 healers, 2 tanks, 6 dps <--- |
| 08:14.37 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 08:14.48 | ReAn | although yes, tanks are dps too sorta... |
| 08:14.57 | jnwhiteh | who tanks |
| 08:14.58 | jnwhiteh | srsly |
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| 08:15.16 | Fisker | atleast in this run hoho |
| 08:15.50 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10711094331&sid=1 <-this still cracks me up |
| 08:17.24 | ReAn | lol |
| 08:17.25 | ReAn | cumelephant |
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| 08:30.47 | olafski | second time too |
| 08:30.52 | olafski | how can you make a mistake like that twice |
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| 08:52.02 | industrial | ~seen ZorbaTHut |
| 08:52.04 | purl | zorbathut <i=tocohl@maximilian.pavlovian.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 21d 6h 32m 36s ago, saying: 'I fixed a bug once by deleting a function and all references to it. no other modifications or additions.'. |
| 08:52.32 | industrial | I'd like to kindly request him to leave out the login spam messages with QuestHelper :\ |
| 08:52.42 | industrial | (and any addon for that matter) |
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| 09:21.26 | Adys | !api getpsellinfo |
| 09:21.27 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'getpsellinfo'. |
| 09:21.34 | Adys | !api getspellinfo |
| 09:21.34 | lua_bot | GetSpellInfo: Returns information about a spell (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetSpellInfo) |
| 09:41.03 | Adys | !api UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT |
| 09:41.04 | lua_bot | UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT: Fires when a request to cast a spell (on behalf of the player or a unit controlled by the player) is sent to the server (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT) |
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| 10:44.20 | Cide | hi Shirik |
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| 11:11.01 | Wobin | OMG |
| 11:11.02 | Wobin | ROUS |
| 11:11.03 | Wobin | http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/sep/07/discovery-species-papua-new-guinea |
| 11:13.23 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/hi.png |
| 11:15.14 | Kalroth | who |
| 11:15.43 | Wobin | this ^ |
| 11:16.13 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:16.21 | Fisker | what can you do? |
| 11:17.10 | Kalroth | Fisker: http://www.whatyoucando.co.uk/ |
| 11:17.32 | Wobin | YOUR ACTIONS CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE |
| 11:17.46 | Kalroth | We need more Fisker actions |
| 11:18.09 | Fisker | slaps Kalroth around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:18.15 | Fisker | i need to play mini ninjas |
| 11:20.42 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://dreamingofkittens.com/ |
| 11:21.14 | Wobin | omg scottish fold kitten sleeping video |
| 11:30.37 | Wobin | hm |
| 11:30.39 | Cide | omg so cute! |
| 11:30.44 | Wobin | DDO is installing .Net Framework 1.1 |
| 11:31.15 | Cide | and you're installing DDO why? |
| 11:31.40 | Wobin | It's free? |
| 11:32.00 | Wobin | They're moving to a micropayment scheme |
| 11:32.10 | Wobin | but the basic client/game is now running for free |
| 11:32.14 | Cide | so is minesweeper, I don't see you installing that |
| 11:32.39 | Wobin | That's cause it's already installed for me! |
| 11:32.39 | Cide | the point is that you're not installing it. |
| 11:32.50 | Wobin | yes... that is a point |
| 11:32.56 | Wobin | Well identified |
| 11:33.24 | Wobin | Are you implying that DDO should be already installed? |
| 11:33.36 | Wobin | Cause that's the natural extension of that analogy |
| 11:34.33 | Cide | perhaps. |
| 11:34.35 | Wobin | Anyway, I never tried it when it came out |
| 11:34.40 | Wobin | So I figure I'll give it a looksee |
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| 11:39.09 | Wobin | hm |
| 11:39.15 | Wobin | the tiered download is an interesting approach |
| 11:39.35 | Wobin | You download queued portions of the game so you can play while waiting for the next file... |
| 11:39.41 | Wobin | so Character creation comes first... |
| 11:41.17 | Cide | seems like a waste of development time to me but pretty cool anyway |
| 11:41.22 | Cide | cool but mostly useless |
| 11:42.42 | Arrowmaster | guildwars still has the best non standard download system imho |
| 11:43.57 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: I dunno, the downloading as a loading screen sort of thing was weird =) |
| 11:44.46 | olafski | wow has that too for some trial clients right? |
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| 11:45.09 | Arrowmaster | it downloaded in the background too |
| 11:45.22 | Arrowmaster | yeah the wow streaming client is weird though |
| 11:45.36 | Arrowmaster | apparently it somehow breaks questhelper according to zorba |
| 11:46.15 | Computerpunk | Guys, could I ask something? Well, here it goes: http://computerpunk.pastey.net/124948 Could anyone point me a way to stop overlapping of CloseButton and Mover? Thanks in advance. |
| 11:47.56 | Computerpunk | If this helps, Mover works, CloseButton doesn't. |
| 11:57.40 | Wobin | hm |
| 11:57.44 | Wobin | I don't know what class to play |
| 11:57.48 | Wobin | I'd normally choose monk |
| 11:57.52 | Wobin | but you have to pay for that |
| 11:58.05 | Wobin | and I'm not forking out cash til I figure if it's worthwhile or not =P |
| 11:59.21 | Wobin | I might try a pally |
| 12:01.35 | theorbtwo | loved the wow streaming client, and was very disapointed that I couldn't keep using it once I bought an account. |
| 12:03.32 | theorbtwo | (It took me a very long time from "got CD" to "have a copy on my computer that I can play with". Lots of patches to download, lots of disc space needed to install them, and the streaming client stops working the moment you enter the cd key in the web site, which I did first.) |
| 12:11.54 | Fisker | herro Wobin |
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| 12:22.37 | Wobin | omg |
| 12:22.41 | Wobin | people have RP names |
| 12:22.46 | Wobin | SCARY |
| 12:23.05 | mikma | wobin the scared |
| 12:23.09 | alestane | ??? |
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| 12:27.29 | Kalroth | name your rogue "Wobin Roflmao" and roleplay a Blizzard forum poster |
| 12:28.07 | Kalroth | * Wobin Roflmao enters the room. |
| 12:28.19 | Kalroth | [Wobin Roflmao]: Hay guis ^^ |
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| 12:44.14 | Cide | hmm |
| 12:44.18 | Cide | Shirik: ping |
| 12:44.24 | Cide | where's legorol when you need him? |
| 12:44.30 | Cide | or anyone that knows physics |
| 12:45.24 | krka | ~asktoask |
| 12:45.25 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 12:45.45 | krka | what do you want to know? |
| 12:46.41 | Cide | yeah yeah |
| 12:49.03 | Cide | a physics lecturer defined the average velocity of an ideal gas as \frac{\int_0^inf n(v) v dv}{\int_0^inf n(v) dv} |
| 12:49.52 | Cide | where n(v) is the maxwell-boltzmann distribution for the speed |
| 12:50.08 | Cide | anyway, my question was if there's any reason behind this definition, given that the area by definition should always be 1? |
| 12:50.21 | Cide | since n(v) is a probability distribution |
| 12:51.02 | Cide | hence the denominator could be dropped |
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| 13:24.31 | Wobin | hm |
| 13:24.41 | Wobin | well, DDO is alright |
| 13:24.59 | Wobin | I'm not sure what I'm really looking for in an MMO though |
| 13:25.38 | Cide | what about my physics question? |
| 13:28.17 | Fisker | physics somewhere else |
| 13:30.01 | Cide | nou |
| 13:30.21 | Kraps | physics Fisker |
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| 13:34.26 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvar4ZsqsEo&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=447B977301B3AB7D&index=34 |
| 13:34.28 | Wobin | holy crap |
| 13:34.30 | Wobin | harpguitar |
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| 13:42.45 | mikma | wobin: |
| 13:42.47 | mikma | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1212272/Hubble-telescope-images-universe-before.html |
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| 13:48.20 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 13:48.48 | Wobin | mikma: I think it's awesome they upgraded it =) |
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| 13:50.08 | Cide | wtf |
| 13:50.15 | Cide | I suck at wow programming now |
| 13:50.17 | mikma | wobin: absolutely :) |
| 13:50.51 | zenzelezz | Cide: what do you mean "now"? ;) |
| 13:51.02 | Cide | it means I was awesome |
| 13:51.25 | alestane | Cide: What changed? |
| 13:51.25 | Cide | now I can't figure out why a fontstring isn't displayed for the life of me |
| 13:51.38 | zenzelezz | is it shown? |
| 13:51.40 | Cide | I haven't coded addons in over a year probably |
| 13:51.42 | Cide | yes |
| 13:51.44 | Cide | and visible |
| 13:51.45 | Cide | and anchored |
| 13:51.51 | Cide | and with a font associated with it |
| 13:51.54 | alestane | And has text set? |
| 13:52.05 | alestane | Dimensions? |
| 13:52.19 | Cide | maybe not dimensions |
| 13:52.20 | nevcairiel | and on a drawlayer thats not covered by somethinge lse? |
| 13:52.34 | Cide | doesn't need dimensions though |
| 13:52.38 | Cide | text is set |
| 13:52.44 | Cide | it's on artwork, no other texture |
| 13:52.45 | alestane | And is on the right parent frame, which is also visible and positioned. |
| 13:52.56 | Cide | yep |
| 13:53.16 | alestane | Returns top, left, etc. with GetRect? |
| 13:53.25 | zenzelezz | sounds like it's pastey time |
| 13:54.02 | Cide | http://pastey.net/124955 |
| 13:56.02 | zenzelezz | which fontstring is not being displayed? |
| 13:57.17 | Cide | name and score |
| 13:57.21 | Cide | multiplier is |
| 13:57.48 | mikma | so, good (and fast) bag sorting addons? |
| 13:57.59 | Wobin | any width requirement for the frame? |
| 13:58.07 | Wobin | mikma: MrPlow =P |
| 13:58.16 | Wobin | (if you don't have profession bags) |
| 13:58.18 | nevcairiel | i'm sure you tested already if the creation func is actually being called |
| 13:58.22 | Cide | it is |
| 13:58.34 | mikma | wobin: don't have. is that AC3 comfort -addon? :I |
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| 13:58.46 | Cide | f.scoreList[1] exists |
| 13:58.46 | mikma | wobin: has the final slot not swapping been fixed? |
| 13:58.56 | Wobin | I've not noticed it |
| 14:03.06 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:03.56 | Cide | alestane: when does GetRect() return nil? |
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| 14:04.19 | Cide | nevermind |
| 14:04.30 | Cide | the scoreList[1] frame had undefined width |
| 14:04.37 | Cide | thanks alestane and others |
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| 14:23.03 | Kraps | how do you log off without leaving a group? |
| 14:23.38 | olafski | alt+f4;) |
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| 14:24.11 | alestane | That's about it, you have to force-quit the client. |
| 14:24.15 | Kraps | the only way? |
| 14:24.22 | alestane | Unless it's a raid group, logging out doesn't remove you from those. |
| 14:33.07 | Shirik | Cide: pong |
| 14:34.15 | Cide | spam inc |
| 14:34.22 | Cide | <Cide> a physics lecturer defined the average velocity of an ideal gas as \frac{\int_0^inf n(v) v dv}{\int_0^inf n(v) dv} |
| 14:34.22 | Cide | <Cide> where n(v) is the maxwell-boltzmann distribution for the speed |
| 14:34.22 | Cide | <Cide> anyway, my question was if there's any reason behind this definition, given that the area by definition should always be 1? |
| 14:34.22 | Cide | <Cide> since n(v) is a probability distribution |
| 14:34.23 | Cide | <Cide> hence the denominator could be dropped |
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| 14:36.27 | Cide | ie is there a reason that it wasn't defined as \int_0^inf n(v) dv |
| 14:37.01 | Cide | I don't know if you know that kind of physics though! |
| 14:40.15 | Ackis | so is it possible to get a mouse for an xbox 360? I was playing halo 3 last night and I killed 1 mob in single player only |
| 14:40.42 | Cide | nou |
| 14:41.38 | alestane | I think they have USB ports these days, but I don't thin k Halo uses mouse targeting. |
| 14:41.54 | Beladona | there are third party adapters to make a mouse work, but Microsoft doesn't provide support for mice |
| 14:42.05 | Beladona | and plugging one into the usb port will not work |
| 14:42.38 | Beladona | Project Natale might solve that kind of issue though. Since motion support would make fps games a lot more enjoyable |
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| 14:44.37 | zenzelezz | morning, peppy |
| 14:45.10 | Ackis | gah how the hell do people use the xbox controller shit to kill stuff? |
| 14:45.11 | Ackis | crazy |
| 14:45.24 | Beladona | takes practice |
| 14:45.32 | Beladona | and even then I am nowhere near as precise as on a pc |
| 14:45.54 | Cide | you never played golden eye did you? |
| 14:46.03 | Ackis | I even had trouble driving my car in gta4 |
| 14:46.05 | Beladona | on a pc you can get good at twitch firing and still being accurate. I have bever been able to do that on the xbox |
| 14:46.22 | Ackis | Cide: this is the first console I've bought since my sega genesis |
| 14:46.38 | olafski | takes practice indeed.. but in multiplayer it's not much of an issue since everybody has the same limitation |
| 14:46.41 | Cide | you'd be surprised how fast one can be with a gamepad |
| 14:46.43 | Beladona | xbox games often require some level of auto-aim |
| 14:46.51 | Cide | any frequent golden eye-player perfected that |
| 14:47.25 | Beladona | I would definitely be interested to see how well the mouse adapter works though |
| 14:47.26 | Ackis | we got the xbox 360 elite w/ halo 3 package... came with the wireless adapter THAT DOESN'T SUPPORT WPA2!!!!! |
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| 14:47.50 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, zenzelezz |
| 14:47.58 | alestane | WB Peppy. |
| 14:48.35 | Wobin | http://trenchdesign.blogspot.com/search/label/portland%20soapbox%20derby |
| 14:48.39 | olafski | beladona: that's usually considered cheating ;) |
| 14:48.40 | Wobin | what an awesome design |
| 14:48.50 | Beladona | in single player? |
| 14:49.06 | Beladona | who cares if people think that is cheating |
| 14:49.24 | olafski | ah don't really care about that no |
| 14:49.26 | olafski | http://gizmodo.com/223963/xcm-xfps-xbox-360-keyboardmouse-adapter-in-action |
| 14:49.54 | Beladona | I agree having it in multiplayer could give an unfair advantage |
| 14:50.04 | Beladona | but then, MS should really be allowing mice |
| 14:50.12 | olafski | heartily disagree |
| 14:50.24 | Beladona | alborate? |
| 14:50.28 | Beladona | err, elaborate |
| 14:50.42 | Ackis | oh man I hooked up windows media center to my xbox 360 and was looking at some WoW screenshots on a 50 inch tv... wow |
| 14:50.43 | olafski | I want to be able to lie down while gaming on my console.. if others have a mouse they would probably aim better so I would be "forced" to do the same |
| 14:50.55 | olafski | unless they make separate servers for people who use either control type |
| 14:51.24 | olafski | the nice thing about consoles is that they offer exactly the same experience to everybody, so you can't claim "yeah you won because you had more fps than me, my pc sux" |
| 14:51.46 | Beladona | that won't always be true |
| 14:51.51 | Beladona | Natal for instance |
| 14:52.04 | Seerah | wait... how does using a mouse keep you from laying down? |
| 14:52.06 | olafski | I very much doubt natal would improve shooter gameplay :P |
| 14:52.19 | olafski | but they'll probably think of some way to keep that fair |
| 14:52.31 | Beladona | what if a player as an hdtv, adn another as SD? |
| 14:52.54 | Seerah | what if one has a 52" and the other has a 19"? |
| 14:52.56 | Beladona | is the HCTV player cheating because he has more definition to view players, and more view real estate? |
| 14:52.59 | olafski | the resolution hardly matters imo.. it's not like you can see a pixel in the distance and shoot it on an hdtv but not on an sd one |
| 14:53.10 | olafski | if you have a 19" tv you won't be sitting as far away as with a 52" |
| 14:53.21 | Beladona | actually resolution makes a huge difference in FPS games, in my experience |
| 14:53.29 | olafski | on pc :) |
| 14:53.30 | Wobin | Torchlight looks pretty cool |
| 14:53.34 | Beladona | on xbox as well |
| 14:53.40 | Wobin | kinda cartoony |
| 14:53.51 | olafski | mkay |
| 14:53.51 | Seerah | the bigger things are and the clearer they appear, the easier they are to see and to shoot |
| 14:53.56 | olafski | in my experience it doesn't =) |
| 14:54.05 | olafski | but then I've played halo 3 online for about 5 hours total |
| 14:54.19 | Beladona | have you played your 360 on a smaller SD tv, and then switched to a 52inch 1080p? |
| 14:54.31 | Seerah | olafski: but you haven't answered my question about the mouse, yet. ;) |
| 14:54.31 | olafski | did it on a 24" monitor and a 42" screen |
| 14:54.33 | olafski | *tv |
| 14:54.46 | Beladona | all prettiness aside, pixel definition is a HUGE part of fps reaction |
| 14:54.48 | olafski | that was a serious question seerah? |
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| 14:54.53 | Seerah | of course |
| 14:54.56 | olafski | ok beladona, as I said I disagree |
| 14:55.08 | Seerah | you noted it as a serious comlaint ;) |
| 14:55.09 | olafski | seerah: how would you comfortably use a mouse while lying on one side? |
| 14:55.18 | Beladona | I didn't say you could |
| 14:55.32 | olafski | I generally lie on my right side.. that would reduce my right arm's movement freedom a lot |
| 14:55.46 | olafski | I can twitch a controller stick but can't move a mouse that way |
| 14:55.52 | zenzelezz | you only need one hand olafski |
| 14:55.53 | Seerah | you could either turn up the mouse's sensitivity, lie on your left side, or lie on your back |
| 14:56.04 | Seerah | or get a trackball |
| 14:56.06 | olafski | not to mention I'd prefer to have a mouse on a table :P |
| 14:56.10 | Beladona | trackball |
| 14:56.11 | olafski | yeah.. trackball isn't a mouse :P |
| 14:56.21 | olafski | and hardly seems more practical than a stick to me |
| 14:56.25 | Seerah | I disagree - it was the first kind of mouse I ever knew ;) |
| 14:56.33 | olafski | that doesn't make it more of a mouse |
| 14:56.33 | MrRuben5 | lmao, are you seriously discussing playing wow while lying in bed :P? |
| 14:56.39 | Seerah | no |
| 14:56.39 | olafski | no mrruben5 |
| 14:56.59 | MrRuben5 | sees "lie on your back" |
| 14:57.06 | zenzelezz | MrRuben5: what's wrong about that? |
| 14:57.07 | MrRuben5 | wonders... |
| 14:57.09 | olafski | we're discussing playing shooters on console while lying on a sofa |
| 14:57.11 | Beladona | no, he is arguing the merits of mice being unfair to xbox 360 because one person might want to play laying down, and couldn't with a mouse. But if he was playing online, and everyone was using a mouse, he would feel forced to use one |
| 14:57.18 | olafski | and whether or not using a mouse would be good for that :P |
| 14:57.21 | Seerah | olafski: all I'm saying is that if you want to use a mouse, and you want to lie down while you play, there's nothing stopping you but yourself |
| 14:57.25 | MrRuben5 | nothing, I just thought it's weird for an UI channel :P\ |
| 14:57.28 | Beladona | imho its no different than in pc gaming |
| 14:57.36 | olafski | seerah: but in your solution I have to lie down differently :P |
| 14:57.37 | Beladona | one person might prefer a gamepad |
| 14:57.53 | Seerah | no, you don't. there were two options to lie differently, two options *not* to |
| 14:57.58 | Ackis | I want a controller that has a d-pad and 3-6 buttons only :( |
| 14:58.06 | olafski | ackis: snes :) |
| 14:58.51 | Ackis | yah those were the good days :P genesis/nes |
| 14:58.58 | olafski | seerah: but you're saying if I don't move, and up the sensitivity, I control up/down on my mouse just by moving it with my hand? (as opposed to my arm) |
| 14:59.03 | olafski | bleh I like current days |
| 14:59.07 | olafski | the 360 has some great games:) |
| 14:59.08 | Beladona | it doesn't really matter in the end. I will always play any fps game I am serious about playing online, on the pc. For the simple reason that I can use a mouse |
| 14:59.29 | olafski | I haven't been serious about online fps since quake2:( |
| 14:59.41 | Seerah | olafski: even having my mouse on the keyboard tray of my desk, I lean my right arm on the arm rest of my chair and only move the mouse with my hand |
| 14:59.50 | Beladona | I played the Battlefield series to death until 2142 |
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| 15:00.04 | olafski | seerah: now that you mention it, I think I do that too :P |
| 15:00.42 | Seerah | so... not too different :P |
| 15:00.53 | olafski | it would still feel uncomfortable to me doing that lying down tbh :P |
| 15:01.07 | Wobin | oh awesome. |
| 15:01.10 | Seerah | then that's your own fault for lying down while you play :P |
| 15:01.16 | olafski | I like casual gaming :( |
| 15:01.19 | Wobin | I mentioned the craziness of Germans earlier |
| 15:01.25 | olafski | but hell I don't really play shooters anyway |
| 15:01.26 | Beladona | we are breaking into the realm of user choice though, and not fair availability |
| 15:01.27 | Wobin | with regards to the Cat Piano... |
| 15:01.29 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj4RBmU-PIo&feature=channel_page |
| 15:01.36 | Beladona | you can apply the same discussion to controllers |
| 15:01.43 | olafski | beladona: my entire argument was about user choice |
| 15:01.55 | olafski | beladona: of course I could sit at a table and play my console with a mouse if it was available :] |
| 15:02.09 | olafski | I like games like crackdown and scene it now though |
| 15:02.17 | Cide | lua> max(1, 2, 3) |
| 15:02.17 | lua_bot | Cide: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'max' (a nil value) |
| 15:02.18 | olafski | only game I play online is wow and that's being phased out too =) |
| 15:02.22 | Cide | lua> math.max(1, 2, 3) |
| 15:02.23 | lua_bot | Cide: 3 |
| 15:03.15 | Ackis | I have 5 gamerpoints, what does that mean? |
| 15:03.22 | olafski | e-peen |
| 15:03.28 | Wobin | You WIN! |
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| 15:03.34 | Cide | you just lost the game |
| 15:03.34 | Beladona | you played hexic for 2 minutes? |
| 15:03.38 | olafski | same as achievements in wow |
| 15:03.48 | Ackis | Beladona: gta4, I got the achievement for completing the first mission :P |
| 15:03.50 | olafski | retail games generally give up to 1000 points (with 250 more for DLC if it has some) |
| 15:04.00 | olafski | arcade games give 200 with up to 50 for DLC |
| 15:04.11 | Beladona | They need to come out with avatar awards |
| 15:04.14 | olafski | yes! |
| 15:04.17 | Beladona | I want to unlock some |
| 15:04.19 | olafski | me too :D |
| 15:04.27 | olafski | would be cool if they were retroactive :( |
| 15:04.33 | olafski | I want some crackdown avatar items |
| 15:04.40 | Ackis | Beladona: I was told that mass effect/etc can give you avatar stuffs |
| 15:04.42 | Beladona | I paid for one, but I don't really like spending points on them |
| 15:04.48 | olafski | yer me neither |
| 15:04.48 | Beladona | really? |
| 15:04.57 | olafski | avatar awards aren't available yet iirc |
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| 15:05.02 | Ackis | yah something if you get level 60 you get it |
| 15:05.29 | Beladona | ME2? or the one that is already out? |
| 15:05.51 | Ackis | no it's not out |
| 15:05.53 | Ackis | ME1 |
| 15:05.59 | Arrowmaster | i got level 60 in ME1 |
| 15:06.11 | olafski | ackis: I can recommend crackdown btw :P great game, cheap and hardly any aiming involved ;) |
| 15:06.12 | Ackis | I have those achievements on the PC |
| 15:06.43 | Beladona | damn. I had a character that high, back before teh NXE update. It was on a mem card. My son kept yanking it until it broke, so now I am playing ME from scratch to get a gamesave I can port to ME2 |
| 15:06.57 | Lopeppeppy | The belovedness of childrens. :) |
| 15:07.09 | Beladona | I even tried soldering it |
| 15:07.11 | Arrowmaster | i need to get my 360 back from my friend, lots of stuff coming out this month |
| 15:07.12 | Beladona | lol |
| 15:07.14 | alestane | One more reason why you've never had any? |
| 15:07.46 | Ackis | what's going to confuse me is my pc games for windows live don't seem to differentiate from the xbox lives ones |
| 15:08.03 | Beladona | I have gamefly. Its awesome. I can beat everything I play, and not have to buy it |
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| 15:09.34 | Ackis | is there a way to get around requiring the disc to play the game? |
| 15:09.46 | Ackis | couch == 8 feet away from tv, far way to walk to switch games |
| 15:09.47 | olafski | no |
| 15:09.49 | Beladona | Games On Demand |
| 15:09.51 | Beladona | thats it |
| 15:09.52 | Arrowmaster | you can install to harddrive, does that still require the disk? |
| 15:09.55 | olafski | yep |
| 15:10.00 | olafski | makes it a lot more silent though |
| 15:10.04 | olafski | and possibly quicker |
| 15:10.10 | olafski | if you have the elite, might as well do that for a couple of games |
| 15:10.14 | Ackis | yah I installed them all to hard drive last night |
| 15:10.18 | Ackis | I do |
| 15:10.19 | olafski | I have a 20GB disk so can only install one at a time |
| 15:10.26 | olafski | but it's still worth it imo for the reduced noise |
| 15:10.28 | Ackis | it came with a 120gb disk |
| 15:10.32 | Beladona | and heat |
| 15:10.46 | Arrowmaster | i have a 20GB but not enough free space to install anything |
| 15:10.56 | Beladona | you know whats sad? |
| 15:11.08 | Beladona | I want Natal to come out so I can say I got exercise, but I was playing games |
| 15:11.28 | Arrowmaster | its just a gimick |
| 15:11.36 | Beladona | have you played Wii? |
| 15:11.58 | Beladona | some games could do without it. But it really does give you a workout for the right games |
| 15:12.01 | olafski | natal could be really cool imo |
| 15:12.02 | Arrowmaster | no but ive seen enought ZP videos about Wii's to know about the waggle |
| 15:12.07 | Beladona | boxing for instance |
| 15:12.17 | olafski | if they make good on their promises |
| 15:12.24 | olafski | but with peter molyneux heading the lineup.. I'm not convinced |
| 15:12.41 | Arrowmaster | half the demos were staged |
| 15:12.49 | Seerah | Wobin: thanks for the video to watch. Though now I'm afraid I'll have nightmares like him of nails pounding on cat tails |
| 15:13.46 | olafski | yeah arrowmaster |
| 15:13.51 | Wobin | Seerah: Well, in that case, how about something different? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuVq2T5aknA&feature=player_embedded |
| 15:14.02 | olafski | and whenever molyneux raves about something being the next best thing it's generally just average |
| 15:14.06 | Wobin | <3 Kommissar Rex |
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| 15:16.02 | Seerah | Wobin: rofl :) thanks :) |
| 15:16.15 | Arrowmaster | i enjoyed both fable games but before fable1 came out and molyneux was hyping up that 'omg everything you do has an effect!' but that turned out to be just a standard morality system |
| 15:16.21 | Seerah | sounds like my dog when we taunt him with thoughts of kitties outside |
| 15:16.23 | Wobin | Inspector Rex cheers everyone up! |
| 15:16.27 | DWSR | anyone here run simcraft? |
| 15:16.33 | olafski | yep same with fable 2 imo arrowmaster |
| 15:16.35 | olafski | I got it this week |
| 15:16.45 | olafski | though the effect of some actions did surprise me |
| 15:16.51 | Wobin | olafski: apparently same as fable 1 except you get an annoying dog pet |
| 15:16.56 | nevcairiel | Wobin, thats really known outside of germany? amazing, i didnt think they would spread our german series =P |
| 15:17.00 | olafski | wobin: indeed that dog annoys me |
| 15:17.03 | Arrowmaster | the dog is awesome |
| 15:17.12 | Wobin | nevcairiel: It's gotten cult status in Australia, apparently |
| 15:17.14 | olafski | "you know how you helped the sheriff when you were a kid? well now this part of town is prosperous and nice because of that" |
| 15:17.25 | Wobin | I credit it that, cause Inspector Rex is awesome |
| 15:17.37 | Arrowmaster | thats the only thing that has an effect from when you are a child in fable2 |
| 15:18.00 | Wobin | olafski: hehe that sounds like the old Kings Quest games |
| 15:18.14 | Wobin | Except it was "Remember that driftwood you forgot to pick up at the beginning of the game....?" |
| 15:18.28 | olafski | haha |
| 15:18.30 | olafski | or larry! |
| 15:18.39 | olafski | "sorry you had to do X at the start of the game so now you can't finish" |
| 15:20.05 | Beladona | there were other things that had an effect, just not as a child |
| 15:20.16 | Beladona | like helping that guy in the town before you left for the tower |
| 15:20.28 | Beladona | now the town is a propserous tourist trap |
| 15:20.49 | Beladona | but those kinds of things WERE limited |
| 15:21.00 | Wobin | oh god |
| 15:21.01 | Wobin | http://3dimka.deviantart.com/art/3D-Stereogram-Tetris-36795242 |
| 15:21.07 | Wobin | I'm glad I can't see stereograms |
| 15:21.15 | Beladona | I wish it was more like Oblivion actually. There I felt like my choices had more to do with things |
| 15:25.39 | Ackis | so if I own the license for a PC game I have to buy it on xbox as well? |
| 15:25.52 | Ackis | (if I want to play it there) |
| 15:25.56 | Beladona | yup |
| 15:25.56 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:26.02 | Ackis | retarded |
| 15:26.05 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:26.23 | Wobin | One of my friends was complaining about that in regards to Oblivion |
| 15:26.23 | Beladona | made for windows games should be dual use |
| 15:26.38 | olafski | that would be quite nice |
| 15:26.51 | olafski | I imagine they would be able to throw both the 360 and pc version of a game on one dvd anyhow |
| 15:28.26 | Ackis | so what happens, say with fallout 3... I have it on the PC (2 copies actually) and if I get it on the xbox... do my achievements sync? |
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| 15:29.15 | olafski | I doubt that |
| 15:29.22 | olafski | never really thought about it though |
| 15:30.19 | Beladona | actually I think they do |
| 15:31.01 | olafski | hell I didn't even know there are PC games which go on your gamer profile :$ |
| 15:31.12 | Ackis | olafski: games for windows live! |
| 15:31.25 | olafski | well as I said I don't really play games on pc except wow |
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| 15:31.34 | olafski | oh I didn't say that but I meant to ;) |
| 15:31.53 | olafski | don't think I will play D3 in fact unless they release it on the 360 |
| 15:31.58 | olafski | which seems unlikely |
| 15:32.19 | Beladona | I can't not play it |
| 15:32.46 | olafski | same here I'm afraid but I'm hoping I won't ;) |
| 15:32.47 | olafski | study time over, time to pick up the lady and make dinner and such.. cya later/tomorrow =) |
| 15:32.59 | Beladona | many of my friends don't really play pc games. Just consoles. But they DO play diablo games, and starcraft |
| 15:33.06 | Beladona | so that is one game I can play with them on the pc |
| 15:34.34 | Ackis | http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1038194 go support me! :D |
| 15:35.14 | Wobin | Beladona: Seen Torchlight? |
| 15:35.44 | Wobin | http://www.gametrailers.com/video/pax-09-torchlight/55575 |
| 15:37.26 | Lopeppeppy | I totally have no concentration today. Ugh. |
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| 15:38.50 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: drop your work and come daydream with me |
| 15:40.16 | Lopeppeppy | Cannot, have so much to do! |
| 15:41.00 | Wobin | woo |
| 15:41.01 | Wobin | http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24540399-5009760,00.html |
| 15:41.06 | Wobin | come to Australia =) |
| 15:42.05 | Wobin | http://www.news.com.au/story/0,,26025648-13762,00.html |
| 15:42.05 | Lopeppeppy | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qP-1yjY3IyM/R1rfyU_WKdI/AAAAAAAAAok/c2be26f5yUg/s320/spider-behind-clock.jpg |
| 15:42.15 | alestane | Everyone has more last-minute web requests, I take it? Or are the pile they already heaped on you more than enough. |
| 15:42.22 | Wobin | What time is it? |
| 15:42.26 | Wobin | SPIDER O'CLOCK |
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| 15:42.51 | Lopeppeppy | http://webecoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/crab.jpg - he's nice too. |
| 15:42.53 | alestane | That looks like it would be a really big spider. |
| 15:44.23 | alestane | I'm pretty sure that if he were real he would have knocked the garbage over already. |
| 15:44.38 | Lopeppeppy | That's a crab, alestane. |
| 15:44.57 | alestane | It is, although I was referring to the two pictures separately. |
| 15:45.06 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/40417:3721:3448:3490/ |
| 15:45.15 | Adys | just added enchant&socket support if you guys wanna toy with it |
| 15:45.25 | Wobin | also rofl: http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,28348,26053119-5014239,00.html |
| 15:45.27 | Adys | works on tooltips alone too: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/40417:3721:3448:3490/tooltip |
| 15:46.37 | nicoli_coding | gj adys |
| 15:46.38 | alestane | "Local news agency SAPA reported the 11-month-old pigeon, Winston, took one hour and eight minutes to fly the 80 km from Unlimited IT's offices near Pietermaritzburg to the coastal city of Durban with a data card was strapped to its leg." |
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| 15:47.29 | Adys | nicoli_coding: i forgot about socket bonuses |
| 15:47.29 | Adys | bah |
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| 15:47.36 | Adys | will wait for tomorrow |
| 15:47.41 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 15:47.58 | Lunessa | Morning Peppy-dear. |
| 15:48.10 | alestane | Station! |
| 15:48.19 | alestane | (Teamwork!) |
| 15:48.20 | Lunessa | Station alestane. |
| 15:48.29 | Lunessa | Excellent! |
| 15:49.00 | mikma | gas |
| 15:49.21 | Lopeppeppy | Filled my tank today for 20 cents. 10 gallons. :) |
| 15:50.18 | Ackis | what's a gallon? |
| 15:50.25 | Ackis | 4 litres? |
| 15:50.33 | Lopeppeppy | Dunno. |
| 15:50.58 | Lopeppeppy | 3.7 something, so 3.5 give or take. |
| 15:50.58 | kdtresh | approximately |
| 15:51.03 | Ackis | ah |
| 15:51.17 | Ackis | My car takes 70 litres to fill up :( |
| 15:51.34 | Ackis | it has more gas than me |
| 15:51.39 | Lunessa | Peppy - sounds wonderful. Someone having a huge promotion event for like 1950s gas prices? |
| 15:52.28 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, it's a passive savings program my grocery does with Sunoco. Except that the Sunoco nearby is VERY inconvenient, so I've been saving up all summer. Finally had time to go to it today. |
| 15:52.39 | Lunessa | AH |
| 15:53.09 | Lopeppeppy | It was basically free, I just had to pay the tax. |
| 15:54.03 | kdtresh | was there a pump for sunoco race fuel? |
| 15:54.14 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 15:54.22 | kdtresh | sweet |
| 15:54.44 | Lopeppeppy | Not knowing what it was, since I get to this station so rarely, I just went with regular old gas pumps. |
| 15:54.58 | kdtresh | well, i think you need a full pit crew to use the race stuff |
| 15:55.16 | kdtresh | or at least someone to change the right side tires while you fuel up |
| 15:55.18 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, yeah, the minions are on strike this week, so it's good that I didn't try it out. |
| 15:59.03 | alestane | Wow, hungry monster just came and got me for serious. |
| 16:00.03 | Lopeppeppy | Lunchtime is. |
| 16:02.50 | Lunessa | Three stages of civilization, "What shall we eat?" "How shall we eat?" "Where shall we have lunch?" |
| 16:03.05 | Lopeppeppy | The answer for me is "yes" today. I am sooooooo grouchy. |
| 16:05.47 | kdtresh | is it a grouchy ass-day? |
| 16:06.10 | Lopeppeppy | Ya. |
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| 16:08.58 | Ackis | throws little kittens at Lopeppeppy (with parachutes) to make her smile and go awwwww |
| 16:09.06 | Lopeppeppy | Awwwwww! |
| 16:09.12 | Lopeppeppy | Come make my kitty better, and I'll love you forever. |
| 16:09.31 | Ackis | I send out kitty prayers to yours and nic's all the time <3 |
| 16:09.55 | zenzelezz | <Lopeppeppy> Come make my kitty better, and I'll love you forever. <--- sometimes I swear you're intentionally making ambiguous statements |
| 16:10.02 | Lopeppeppy | nicoli_coding, has your baby had surgery yet? |
| 16:10.25 | Ackis | zenzelezz: rofl |
| 16:10.28 | Liz | Hey guys, can anyone point me at a tutorial or something for making multi-line editboxes (particularly dealing with the graphical aspect) in lua? Like, I get how to make the box, I don't get how to stretch those pesky images around so that it looks like an editbox (I'm not going as far as to have scrolling in them for now, at least) |
| 16:10.34 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, you define "love", and we'll negotiate. I am perfectly capable of loving any number of people forever and ever... as long as we're talking emotions! |
| 16:10.37 | Ackis | ~zenzelezz++ |
| 16:10.51 | Ackis | well played good sir, well played |
| 16:11.09 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: my newest kitten is being taught not to nom, however he still farts |
| 16:11.37 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent on the noms. Can you get him activated charcoal or cholorphyl treats? |
| 16:11.43 | Lopeppeppy | I think I spelled cholorphyl wrong. But whatever. |
| 16:12.01 | Lopeppeppy | I need those for Rosie, although I think she also has a food allergy. |
| 16:12.09 | Ackis | aww |
| 16:12.49 | Lopeppeppy | Tell me about it. *laugh* I need to find out what food she was eating in the shelter, if it turns into a food allergy. But usually they get food donations, so the animals eat just... whatever comes out of the bin that day. |
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| 16:13.24 | Ackis | our local shelter is 100% iams |
| 16:14.20 | Ackis | however we stopped using it a while back because of the ash content, using royal canin now |
| 16:14.55 | Lopeppeppy | I should ask, they could have some donation deal with a specific company. She didn't itch herself while she was in the shelter, but she sure did over the weekend. We'll do testing after her stitches are done with. |
| 16:15.36 | Ackis | yah it never hurts to ask |
| 16:16.31 | Lopeppeppy | Could be allergic to humans, like cogwheel's dog. |
| 16:17.00 | Ackis | lol |
| 16:17.19 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: http://dreamingofkittens.com/ |
| 16:18.36 | Lopeppeppy | Awwwww. |
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| 16:23.26 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LjOrfa2dDQ |
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| 16:39.32 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/09/08/funny-pictures-wearing-collars/ |
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| 16:42.53 | alestane | That one should really be called funny-pictures-not-wearing-collars. |
| 16:43.19 | Lopeppeppy | For a second I had my hopes up. |
| 16:47.27 | alestane | Oh? Who did you think would be wearing these collars? |
| 16:48.26 | Lunessa | She was thinking it was a Stewie-style sexy party. |
| 16:49.56 | Lunessa | New Flash Player release - another security patch |
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| 16:52.51 | Lopeppeppy | Stewie? Eeeeeewie! |
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| 16:59.19 | Lunessa | But he does host some very sexy parties. |
| 16:59.27 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew. |
| 16:59.36 | Lopeppeppy | I party with you and alestane. Adult critters! |
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| 17:04.12 | alestane | parties with Lopeppeppy. |
| 17:05.46 | alestane | I ought to figure out how to make Adium format IRC messages the way Colloquy does. |
| 17:05.53 | alestane | It's much more compact. |
| 17:05.59 | Lopeppeppy | Good luck... |
| 17:06.52 | alestane | Well, it supports "modules" that provide different formatting. So it's a question of hwo much programming is involved and in what language. |
| 17:07.12 | Lunessa | I haven't bothered to use Adium's IRC module at all. |
| 17:08.07 | alestane | I wanted to see if I could consolidate my chat programs. So far I have only two beefs with it; the formatting issue, and poor support for password-protected channels. |
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| 17:09.40 | alestane | Woohoo! "Four Elements" Titanium vein! |
| 17:10.15 | Lopeppeppy | I don't do password protected automagically, I type them every time. Trillian can only handle one, which is the lounge. If I join any of the seekrit pron channels, I type in the password by hand. |
| 17:10.56 | alestane | That's what I get to do now, type it in. But Colloquy remembers. |
| 17:11.37 | Lunessa | Colloquy is pretty nice. I miss it when I use IRC on my Windows box. |
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| 17:12.27 | Lopeppeppy | I wanna pwny. |
| 17:12.29 | Lopeppeppy | is still cranky |
| 17:12.45 | durcyn | did you get your cat out of hock, peppy? |
| 17:13.05 | Lunessa | I want to take a week off from the world and come back and all the crap I have to deal with is magically solved. |
| 17:13.16 | steev | that would be nice |
| 17:13.27 | Lopeppeppy | durcyn, she was out of jail for the weekend, had more surgery on Tuesday and went back in. :| |
| 17:13.46 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, you and me both. Do you like pina coladas? And getting caught in the rain? |
| 17:14.01 | Lunessa | I'm not into helath food. I am into champagne. |
| 17:14.10 | alestane | invites Lopeppeppy to the dunes at the Cape. |
| 17:14.20 | Lopeppeppy | ESCAPE! |
| 17:14.23 | alestane | was apparently channeling zenzelezz for a second. |
| 17:14.25 | Lopeppeppy | You guys rule. |
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| 17:15.00 | zenzelezz | \o/ |
| 17:15.18 | Pizik | Heya, anyone know an addon that will either auto-ignore messages in all caps, or will convert them to lowercase? |
| 17:15.32 | Lunessa | What's really funny is that I was very very well-behaved at BlizzCon and all the ladies in attendance from our clique all think I'm harmless. Check off one item from evil disguise plan! |
| 17:15.43 | Lopeppeppy | Pizik, some of the spam mods should do that already. |
| 17:15.53 | Lopeppeppy | Very evil, Lunessa. |
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| 17:16.05 | Pizik | Great, i'l have a look for something |
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| 17:16.54 | ckknight | ArrowmasterClass.new.join_channel '#wowuidev' |
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| 17:17.29 | ArrowmasterClass | i should change my irc settings and just connect to my irssi-proxy |
| 17:17.50 | ArrowmasterClass | im already tunneling my irc traffic through a box at home next to my irssi-proxy |
| 17:18.00 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. I'm looking now, Pizik, and I don't see any that specifically mention all-caps. |
| 17:18.23 | spode- | there's this http://www.wowace.com/addons/bottle-cap/ |
| 17:18.24 | ArrowmasterClass | and fuck im about to root this damn box so i can disable cleartype |
| 17:18.36 | ArrowmasterClass | its configured wrong |
| 17:18.37 | Pizik | I can handle Gold Sellers, they sometimes have something funny to say, but nothing in Caps is ever smart or funny :oS |
| 17:19.31 | ArrowmasterClass | wheres the cleartype settings at in vista |
| 17:19.54 | alestane | Except the first time I ever saw "CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL." THat was funny, but only once. |
| 17:20.27 | Pneumatus | it's on by default Arrowmaster, but to disable it you need to use a powertoy iirc |
| 17:20.39 | ArrowmasterClass | grr |
| 17:20.46 | Pizik | Seems that the Bottle-Cap addon is for the other direction spode- |
| 17:21.22 | Pneumatus | ArrowmasterClass: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearType/tuner/tune.aspx |
| 17:21.54 | ArrowmasterClass | dont have admin access right now on this computer, was hoping i could still disable it but if it needs a powertool im guessing i cant |
| 17:22.47 | Pneumatus | there's not a setting natively to disable it, no :< |
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| 17:26.45 | Pizik | Do you think an addon like that would be difficult to write? I'm sure I am not the only one it pisses off |
| 17:26.53 | sag_ich_nicht | powertoy doesn't neccesairly nee admin rights |
| 17:27.15 | sag_ich_nicht | *need |
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| 17:32.20 | steev | Pizik: just modify bottle-cap to do the opposite |
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| 17:33.08 | Pizik | I get the feeling Bottle-Cap does not work that way, it presumably alters text that is in your text box, before it gets sent |
| 17:34.15 | foxlit | You might want to download the addon and check. |
| 17:34.31 | Lunessa | It wouldn't be that hard to write, but not that interesting to write either. |
| 17:35.50 | Ackis | grammar question: is it "a xbox" or "an xbox"? |
| 17:36.33 | Pizik | is it a Hotel or An hotel ;o) |
| 17:37.02 | Ackis | I know the grammar rules, however an xbox sounds better to me so it's getting confused in my head |
| 17:37.06 | alestane | It is typically a hotel. |
| 17:37.37 | alestane | But an halibut, at least in Monty Python sketches. |
| 17:38.05 | foxlit | Ackis: "an exbox" |
| 17:38.06 | Lopeppeppy | an xbox would I believe be proper, due to the X being treated as a word/initial. |
| 17:38.21 | Lunessa | Ackis - in English, there's the "it sounds better" exception for articles. In the case you're asking about it's "an XBox" - especially since the "X" is said as the name of the letter and not as the sound it represents. |
| 17:38.39 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 17:38.49 | Ackis | yah that's what I was thinking |
| 17:38.51 | Lopeppeppy | And that is how us grammar nazis roll! |
| 17:38.58 | Ackis | sorry I'm a grammar nazi on myself and this was annoying me |
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| 17:39.11 | Ackis | because the "rule" is to only use an if the next word starts with a vowel. |
| 17:39.14 | Lunessa | Three years of college grammar studies have left me well prepared. |
| 17:39.21 | foxlit | Ackis: an hour. |
| 17:39.58 | Lunessa | Ackis - Vowel sound, not just a vowel. |
| 17:40.14 | Ackis | ah good point |
| 17:40.31 | alestane | It's a euphonius ligature rather than a real grammaticla distinction, so it cares more about pronunciation than spelling. |
| 17:40.35 | kdtresh | the only one i don't like is "an historic" |
| 17:41.01 | Lopeppeppy | The h is so silent in that word. |
| 17:41.06 | alestane | That only comes up if the speaker is inclined to drop their haitches. |
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| 17:41.54 | kdtresh | i prefer a hard a |
| 17:42.09 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, me too. |
| 17:42.18 | foxlit | Google Suggest++ |
| 17:42.28 | Ackis | Why did I read that as something dirty? :( |
| 17:42.57 | Lunessa | Ackis because to you, everything is dirty. |
| 17:43.28 | Ackis | not everything |
| 17:43.34 | Ackis | I've been getting tamer in my old age |
| 17:43.56 | Lopeppeppy | I'm cranky, so I'm much more likely to make a joke whenever I can. |
| 17:44.10 | Ackis | What really scares me is that I'm noticing that my gaming reflexes are decreasing... my nephew can now beat me solidly in games |
| 17:44.23 | foxlit | Move to other games, quick. |
| 17:44.40 | Cruciformer | ok I wanna pick your brains. Custard has this weird property where its liquid, but if you hit teh surface quickly its very hard (someone once filled a pool with custard and walked over it). that property has a wird name, and its not surface tension, Anyone know what it is? |
| 17:45.34 | Lunessa | Viscosity? |
| 17:45.42 | kneeki | I know what you're thinking of |
| 17:45.52 | foxlit | Lunessa: that wouldn't have anything to do with how fast you hit the surface. |
| 17:46.17 | Cruciformer | No not viscosity either. I contended that it was indeed surface tension but the person asking the question insists they used another word on a discover channel thing |
| 17:46.47 | Lopeppeppy | Cruciformer -- http://spluch.blogspot.com/2007/07/walking-on-custard.html |
| 17:46.56 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:38] <Lunessa> Ackis - in English, there's the "it sounds better" exception for articles. In the case you're asking about it's "an XBox" - especially since the "X" is said as the name of the letter and not as the sound it represents. <--actually, it's not an expection, it's centered around the first letter of the pronouncation, not the spelling :P |
| 17:47.12 | Lunessa | foxlit: True. But I was assuming that since water also becomes "harder" the faster you are moving when you impact it, that viscosity was the factor in custard being discussed. |
| 17:47.22 | foxlit | "This is because of a property of custard called non-Newtonian fluid which makes it a solid when under high pressure while remaining in its liquid form otherwise." is what google says |
| 17:47.31 | Lunessa | sag_ich_nicht: I was trying to "dumb it down" for him. |
| 17:47.39 | sag_ich_nicht | he's a coder |
| 17:47.41 | foxlit | Though the source sucks. |
| 17:47.41 | Lopeppeppy | is having better google-fu, yay! |
| 17:47.54 | sag_ich_nicht | thus: don't dumb it down |
| 17:48.04 | foxlit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thixotropic |
| 17:48.12 | Lunessa | sag_ich_nicht: It's Ackis. I mean, really. |
| 17:48.17 | foxlit | "Thixotropy is the property of some non-Newtonian pseudoplastic fluids to show a time-dependent change in viscosity; the longer the fluid undergoes shear stress, the lower its viscosity." |
| 17:48.30 | Lunessa | Ackis: Just yanking your chain. |
| 17:48.36 | sag_ich_nicht | now you're just trolling |
| 17:48.43 | foxlit | (magic words: "walking on custard") |
| 17:48.59 | Cruciformer | thanks Lopeppeppy |
| 17:49.22 | Ackis | I got burned while I was alt- tabbed! DAMN YOU ALL! |
| 17:50.11 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUCyvw4w_yk |
| 17:50.13 | sag_ich_nicht | ahahahaha |
| 17:50.13 | Lopeppeppy | My same magic words, foxlit. :) |
| 17:52.02 | Lunessa | Thixotropy - that ought to be a good trivia question. |
| 17:52.49 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you. |
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| 17:54.16 | foxlit | sag_ich_nicht: It appears to be promoting piracy of CAD software. |
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| 18:13.50 | Paradigm | IS there a way to write an addon to mass-mill stuff? Or is that 'protected' and botting? |
| 18:14.02 | Dagmar | There's already addons for mass-mailing your guildies |
| 18:14.11 | Dagmar | I use one. |
| 18:14.26 | Paradigm | mass-mill (turn herbs to pigments) |
| 18:14.29 | industrial | mill not mail |
| 18:14.33 | industrial | yes theres those addons too |
| 18:14.35 | industrial | check out panda |
| 18:14.37 | Dagmar | Probably ATSW |
| 18:14.54 | joeymarx | What parent tags can you stick NormalTexture in? I have a button with FontStrings in the artwork layer... I want an icon next to them but NormalTexture in the artwork layer doesn't seem to work |
| 18:15.03 | Dagmar | ...although it'll probably require some clicking regardless. You have to nudge ATSW through each step with a click |
| 18:15.05 | alestane | Paradigm: You could make a button that cycles through things you want to mill and saves you having to click on them. But I think the actual milling is considered a spellcast and requires input to trigger. |
| 18:15.34 | devZero | string.match can use regex, yes? |
| 18:15.35 | Paradigm | so, 1 spellcast per click? |
| 18:15.42 | Dagmar | Something like that yea |
| 18:16.17 | devZero | something like local var = string.match(str, "^Heroic$"); |
| 18:17.08 | joeymarx | aka whats the best way to make clickable rows with multiple cols + icons |
| 18:17.40 | alestane | devZero: Not full regex, but simple pattern matching like that, yes. |
| 18:17.46 | devZero | thanks |
| 18:18.32 | alestane | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1 for more info. |
| 18:20.05 | devZero | alestane: yeah, I glanced at that, but I didn't see any regex info on just a quick look :) |
| 18:20.10 | devZero | I'm sure it's there though :P |
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| 18:22.13 | alestane | It'll do character classes , anchors, and general expansions. |
| 18:22.54 | joeymarx | Can you have a button tag inside a button tag? |
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| 18:25.31 | Arrowmaster | fucking pricks using utorrent, only seed left and is rate limiting so i can only get 0.1-0.3KB/s |
| 18:26.00 | nevcairiel | every damn client on this world does rate limiting, how is utorrent special? :P |
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| 18:26.25 | Dagmar | It's been set to a limit that Arrowmaster doesn't like. :) |
| 18:26.38 | Dagmar | That is a pretty damn low limit tho |
| 18:26.40 | Arrowmaster | because ive got multiple torrents going and its just the utorrent seeds that are rate limiting me to 0.1-0.3KB/s |
| 18:26.48 | Dagmar | ...or they're on a 33.6k modem |
| 18:26.48 | nevcairiel | Dagmar, probably split among multiple people |
| 18:26.55 | Lopeppeppy | Perhaps they limit traffic in the daytime. |
| 18:27.17 | Dagmar | Personally, I don't think people should ever set the thing up so that data traffic is less than 1Kb/s for anyone |
| 18:27.29 | Arrowmaster | old torrent, only 1 seed left and like 2 peers including me, and theres multiple torrents as part of a set |
| 18:27.52 | Dagmar | The control jibber-jabber should never be allowed to become a significant portion of the overall bandwidth used. |
| 18:27.53 | joeymarx | perhaps the seed limit is set by his bandwidth |
| 18:31.11 | joeymarx | ah I want <Texture> no <NormalTexture> |
| 18:33.06 | alestane | Interesting, looks like Adium message style modules are basically bundles of CSS sheets. |
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| 18:35.42 | KarlKFI|work | mmm redundancy |
| 18:35.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I've been playing again for less than two weeks.. and I've already got a ticket up for naming violations, verbal harassment, and language |
| 18:35.58 | devZero | anyone aware of a way to improve this code? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/124976 I want to be able to have both conditions met, if both exist. As it stands I'm having to break from the loop if one or the other is found. |
| 18:35.59 | Lopeppeppy | I do those just about every day, ScytheBlade1. *hug* |
| 18:36.08 | alestane | Against you, or you've posted one? |
| 18:36.15 | nevcairiel | if i wanted to, i could fill my day with those tickets, and dont do anything else |
| 18:36.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Nothing quite like being cussed out in a whisper by a player named "Shockrape" for not porting him to dalaran |
| 18:37.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm about 90% positive he has an alt named "Freakmaker" as well |
| 18:38.03 | Dagmar | I'm sure the GM's will be happy to help him pick a new name. |
| 18:38.07 | ScytheBlade1 | pats the "Report an Issue" button lovingly |
| 18:38.25 | Dagmar | I just email wowgm@blizzard.com |
| 18:38.31 | Dagmar | Makes it easier to report them in bulk |
| 18:38.38 | devZero | haha |
| 18:38.48 | Lopeppeppy | I usually make a list and do them all at once. |
| 18:38.52 | Dagmar | Same here |
| 18:39.28 | Dagmar | I figure when the trade window turns into something that I can't read half the names over the radio, it's time to start culling the weak |
| 18:39.53 | Dagmar | What we really need tho is a "Report to parents" button |
| 18:40.04 | Legorol | I have a coding question for the mathematically minded: I have some data which is in the form of an x/y scatter plot. |
| 18:40.28 | Legorol | It is supposed to represent a smooth function, but it's a somewhat noisy sample |
| 18:40.58 | Legorol | What's the best way of smoothing the data, given that neither the x- nor the y-values are evenly spaced |
| 18:41.10 | Legorol | So there are places where there are a lot of points, and there are places where the data is sparse |
| 18:41.23 | Dagmar | Calculus. |
| 18:41.37 | Lunessa | I use the "report spam" feature for all kinds of things. [AnylPirate] [Trade] YOUR MOM! LAWL = report. |
| 18:41.54 | Lunessa | CS staff must hate me. |
| 18:42.03 | Legorol | What makes it particularly difficult is that you are allowed only one pass at the data, in other words you only get each data point once as input, you can't go back to them, and you are supposed to output some kind of smoothed data as you get the input |
| 18:42.11 | Dagmar | Lunessa: You're not the only person who uses it for that |
| 18:42.32 | Dagmar | If they had a problem, they'd probably have said something about it by now (or increased the ignore list size to "bigger than a dixie cup") |
| 18:43.05 | Legorol | I have tried doing a Moving Average, the problem is that it's not well suited for data where the independent variable is not evenly space |
| 18:43.07 | Dagmar | Legorol: Smoothed how? Are you looking to plot this on a plane or something? |
| 18:43.13 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I know, The best bit about the report spam feature; I don't see any more from that user for the remainder of my session. |
| 18:43.17 | Legorol | Dagmar: yes |
| 18:43.39 | Legorol | smoothed, not fitted |
| 18:44.00 | Legorol | smoothed in the sense of obtaining an x/y plot where the x-values are evenly spaced, and there is only one y value per each x, and it's representative of the original sample |
| 18:45.15 | Dagmar | I keep getting 'cubic splines' from Google |
| 18:46.15 | Legorol | i don't think splines would be good here because of the irregular spacing of x-values in the input |
| 18:46.26 | Cairenn | WobWork: awwww |
| 18:46.51 | Legorol | i need something that can cope with clumps of points and not give them unduly high weight |
| 18:50.59 | Dagmar | Probably just a piece-wise averaging function then |
| 18:51.18 | Dagmar | I can think of 3-4 half-assed way to do it |
| 18:53.42 | alestane | Cool, someone has already made a custom Adium style to look like Colloquy. |
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| 18:56.10 | alestane | BRB |
| 18:56.37 | Dagmar | Legorol1: Just be glad you're not trying to convert x-y-z data into a surface |
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| 18:58.22 | alestane | Better. |
| 19:03.33 | Lopeppeppy | It's only 3pm. I feel like I've died a thousand deaths since noon. Ugh. |
| 19:03.55 | ScytheBlade1 | That's pretty bad |
| 19:04.25 | Lopeppeppy | Work flow interruptus for the very lose. |
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| 19:18.22 | devZero | can someone please take a gander at this. http://wowuidev.pastey.net/124976 |
| 19:19.12 | devZero | actually nvm |
| 19:19.17 | devZero | I think I figured it out |
| 19:33.29 | joeymarx | where can I find a list of wow texture names? I want the gold icon that shows up in the backpack instead of "INV_Misc_Coin_01" |
| 19:34.23 | alestane | You can use the add-on kit to extract the art, but you're probably better off looking in MoneyFrame.xml or MoneyFrame.lua to see what they loaded. |
| 19:37.51 | alestane | In this case, the <NormalTexture> beginning at line 108 of MoneyFrame.xml indicates that the texture path is "Interface\MoneyFrame\UI-MoneyIcons" with texCoords left:0, right:0.25, top:0, bottom:1. |
| 19:40.06 | alestane | Keep in mind that if you refer to this texture path from Lua, you'll need to escape it as one of the following: "Interface\\MoneyFrame\\UI-MoneyIcons", "Interface/MoneyFrame/UI-MoneyIcons" or [[Interface\MoneyFrame\UI-MoneyIcons]] |
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| 19:55.55 | jnwhiteh | joeymarx: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/artbrowser |
| 19:55.59 | jnwhiteh | but as alestane said. |
| 19:56.46 | joeymarx | both oh u were VERY helpful thanks |
| 20:00.48 | Adys | Ok |
| 20:01.15 | Adys | Is there a way to redirect all sound output from one specific device to one specific other device? |
| 20:01.29 | Adys | eg redirect it to an usb output |
| 20:03.39 | ScytheBlade1 | knowing what operating system you're running would be nice |
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| 20:05.06 | Adys_ | ffs |
| 20:05.10 | Adys_ | [23:01:57] <Adys> Is there a way to redirect all sound output from one specific device to one specific other device? |
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| 20:05.13 | Adys_ | [23:02:11] <Adys> eg redirect it to an usb output |
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| 20:05.28 | ScytheBlade1 | 16:02 < ScytheBlade1> knowing what operating system you're running would be nice |
| 20:05.33 | cbreak | Adys_: not that hard |
| 20:05.38 | cbreak | just plug a cable into one side |
| 20:05.43 | cbreak | and the other end of the cable into the other |
| 20:06.01 | cbreak | I do that from my computer to my stereo set. |
| 20:06.06 | Adys_ | ScytheBlade1: kubuntu |
| 20:06.34 | ScytheBlade1 | use the pulseaudio control panel, set the default device |
| 20:06.37 | cbreak | if you have /dev/something, you could use dd or cat? |
| 20:06.44 | cbreak | (probably a terrible and bad hack :/) |
| 20:06.46 | Adys_ | I dont use pulseaudio |
| 20:06.58 | Adys_ | cbreak: thats something like that I had in mind yeah |
| 20:07.02 | nevcairiel | then set some smart alsa rules |
| 20:07.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Then you get to write alsaconf files and enjoy broken audio should you ever disconnect your USB device |
| 20:07.52 | Adys_ | mmkay |
| 20:08.05 | ScytheBlade1 | further, you have to restart every program using the audio for it to work |
| 20:08.19 | ScytheBlade1 | though in theory it should be as simple as setting the default device |
| 20:08.25 | foxlit | "At an event yesterday, AMD demonstrated a single next-gen Radeon driving six 30" Dell monitors, each with a resolution of 2560x1600, hooked up via DisplayPort. Total resolution: 7680x3200" |
| 20:08.53 | Lopeppeppy | What exactly were they displaying, though? :) |
| 20:08.59 | foxlit | "AMD showed off ... World of Warcraft ... running at playable frame rates on the six displays."" |
| 20:09.05 | Lopeppeppy | Sexy |
| 20:09.11 | Adys_ | "Then someone tried to update the driver and they got an error #132" |
| 20:09.18 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:09.19 | ScytheBlade1 | gg |
| 20:09.28 | Lopeppeppy | Wonder what "playable" is for them, but 20fps would be acceptable to me. |
| 20:09.42 | foxlit | The resolution sounds impressive until you wonder about what AA does. |
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| 20:10.41 | Lopeppeppy | And was that "one game spread across 6 monitors" or "one game displayed simultaneously on 6 different monitors" |
| 20:10.47 | foxlit | [My silly understanding is that even your current card renders at 2/4/8 times the dimensions of your monitor, then down-samples to get rid of edges] |
| 20:11.25 | cbreak | usually AA is done differently |
| 20:11.36 | cbreak | with a random sub-pixel shift pattern |
| 20:11.51 | nevcairiel | FSAA is done the up and down scaling, afaik |
| 20:12.07 | cbreak | doesn't that lead to sampling artefacts? |
| 20:12.46 | cbreak | ages ago I implemented some crude FSAA with accumulation buffer... very crude |
| 20:13.00 | cbreak | it rendered the same image two, three or four times, slightly shifted |
| 20:20.45 | Cide | that's not the typical way to do fsaa |
| 20:20.49 | Cide | nevcairiel is right |
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| 20:21.46 | Cide | but you can take random pixel samples from the upsampled image |
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| 20:30.15 | wsoul | Hmmm, DKs unholy tree getting major changes with the next patch |
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| 20:31.45 | wsoul | Unholy is a good talent tree for pvping isn't it |
| 20:32.34 | mikma | i went with blood |
| 20:32.40 | mikma | selfheal + cleave |
| 20:32.54 | Dagmar | ...as is any exceptionally overpowered spec. |
| 20:33.05 | wsoul | yeah my main spec is blood now and trying unholy spec.. been spending shitload of goold on my secondary tree |
| 20:34.24 | wsoul | but my ap dropped dramatically |
| 20:34.58 | wsoul | the highest spells were DC/mele and ob |
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| 20:42.47 | Lunessa | http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/11/science/space/11rocket.html |
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| 20:46.26 | alestane | Fwoosh! |
| 20:48.58 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Due to budget restraints NASA has switched to testing rockets fueled by only diet coke and mentos. |
| 20:49.12 | Dagmar | ...and at least they don't burst into flames. |
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| 20:56.00 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I'm disappointed. I wanted to live in orbit. It's almost 2010, and still don't have a fucking jet pack, flying car, or vacations in Luna City. |
| 20:56.03 | Lunessa | DAMNIT |
| 20:56.51 | kdtresh | do you at least have a pet tribble? |
| 20:56.54 | alestane | "Sure, it's open till 9." |
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| 21:00.08 | alestane | wsoul: What were you looking at for these changes? |
| 21:00.12 | Lunessa | kdtresh: I used to import those to sell at SF cons. |
| 21:00.34 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Lunessa: i'm going to hell for this, i'm sure.. but: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IWantMyJetpack |
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| 21:04.31 | wsoul | alestane: if t is worth changing wanted something for pve/pvp and tanking tree ofc |
| 21:04.51 | wsoul | more dps yet it requires t9 set |
| 21:05.16 | alestane | No, you said something about the unholy tree getting changes. Do you have a source for this or is it wishful thinking? |
| 21:07.44 | wsoul | oh yeah sec |
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| 21:08.14 | wsoul | http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t72364-unholy_dps_obliterate_today_scourge_strike_tomorrow/#post1369405 |
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| 21:08.30 | wsoul | ptr build 10433 |
| 21:09.10 | wsoul | i did test it... didn't get my rotation quite well in toc normal 3 times the last time was much better than the first two ofc yet my ap dropped |
| 21:09.23 | wsoul | with blood my ap is 4561 "offspec dps" |
| 21:10.14 | industrial | Anyone ever used PAC files (proxy)? |
| 21:10.23 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSan1: :P |
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| 21:17.53 | Dagmar | industrial: You mean proxy automatic configuration files? |
| 21:18.24 | Dagmar | Like, eight years ago or so I did, and I wasn't up to any good |
| 21:18.46 | industrial | yes |
| 21:18.46 | industrial | hmm |
| 21:18.53 | industrial | http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=10028b45c6620fce&hl=en |
| 21:18.56 | foxlit | I feel that http://www.myface.com/ and http://www.facespace.com are wasting their comedy potential. |
| 21:19.53 | Dagmar | industrial: THe answer might be "Patch Chrome to use IE's libraries for network access" |
| 21:20.17 | Adys | foxlit: Friendface. FRIENDFACE. FRIENDFACE !!! |
| 21:20.40 | foxlit | Adys: facester. |
| 21:20.45 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rNgCnY1lPg |
| 21:20.48 | Dagmar | industrial: Of course, matching brackets would help too |
| 21:21.19 | industrial | Dagmar: what? what isnt matched |
| 21:21.56 | industrial | and patching chrome to use anything of IE is a nono |
| 21:22.43 | Dagmar | Scratch that, I misread because I didn't realize anyone would explicitly have the else in there |
| 21:22.54 | Dagmar | I'd leave out the DIRECT bit. It's assumed |
| 21:23.41 | Dagmar | You *might* need to put a trailing slash on that hostname tho |
| 21:24.00 | Dagmar | One of the things I was exploiting in 2000 was bad PAC setups |
| 21:24.34 | Dagmar | '*ahostname.com*' *will* match 'even.my.toaster.has.ahostname.compusa.com' |
| 21:25.49 | Bruners | haste: r needs enchant naou! |
| 21:27.51 | wsoul | alestane: did you read/check it |
| 21:28.18 | alestane | Looking at it out. I'm not usually a big theorycrafter...I play the game mostly for fun...but it's an education. |
| 21:28.48 | alestane | I've been somewhat flummoxed by the fact that Obliterate seems to stand head and shoulders above Scourge Strike right now, so this is interesting. |
| 21:29.24 | wsoul | hehe |
| 21:29.34 | wsoul | wit hthe right "sigil" and set |
| 21:30.12 | wsoul | 3/13/55 is what i went with |
| 21:31.03 | alestane | I mean, my DK is still at 79, I'm hardly raiding, but I had SS for a while; the damage seemed lackluster and it wouldn't proc Death Rune Mastery the way Death Strike and Obliterate will. |
| 21:31.11 | mikma | unholy obliterate build :D |
| 21:31.46 | wsoul | so is SS |
| 21:31.52 | Shirik | show me the bling bling |
| 21:31.53 | mikma | it didn't seem to crit, so i scratched that build and went with blood |
| 21:32.04 | alestane | EJ is going to be very very busy when Cataclysm hits beta. |
| 21:32.23 | wsoul | mikma: i am trying out unholy now.. but i go with blood for dps and tanking |
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| 21:32.49 | Shirik | I hope EJ dies |
| 21:33.00 | mikma | wsoul: i go with blood as pvp / dps and frost as tank |
| 21:33.17 | ScytheBlade1 | If I have a table that uses strings as keys and then run table.sort(t, mySortFunc), is pairs() safe to iterate over concerning order? |
| 21:33.29 | Shirik | table.sort will do nothing |
| 21:33.37 | ScytheBlade1 | That is most depressing |
| 21:33.42 | Shirik | what would it do? |
| 21:33.51 | wsoul | mikma: had frost build for tanking... blood is aggro magnet =) |
| 21:33.56 | Shirik | How do you sort something with strings as keys? |
| 21:34.07 | ScytheBlade1 | According to mySortFunc :P |
| 21:34.07 | alestane | Unholy generally suits my temperament...I've been maining a warlock since I started playing, so handling a pet and managing dots comes naturally to me. But I like gimmicks, so I've split off into Mark of Blood and my other build right now is frost DW. |
| 21:34.12 | Shirik | well sure |
| 21:34.16 | Shirik | but what does it mean to "sort" it |
| 21:34.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Get them in a state that mySortFunc(n, n+1) returns true assuming n+1 ~= nil |
| 21:34.45 | ScytheBlade1 | and be quiet about n+1 |
| 21:34.46 | ScytheBlade1 | :P |
| 21:34.54 | Shirik | ... |
| 21:34.56 | Shirik | that's my point |
| 21:34.59 | wsoul | alestane: dw for dpsing or tanking? cause i tried tanking and it isn't nice at all :/ |
| 21:35.18 | wsoul | also it isn't great for dps either |
| 21:35.34 | Shirik | I'll be bach |
| 21:35.34 | alestane | I haven't actually taken Tia into a dungeon since blood furnace, where I was tanking as unholy, largely because the other tank quit. |
| 21:35.52 | wsoul | :/ |
| 21:36.23 | ScytheBlade1 | would table.sort work on a numerically indexed table with gaps in the numbers? |
| 21:36.54 | alestane | It's a build that should at least be able to try and tank 5-mans, assuming a set of gear with the right sets of stats. I'm am not EJ's target audience. |
| 21:36.55 | ScytheBlade1 | meh one way to find out |
| 21:37.16 | ScytheBlade1 | lua> t={[1]=1, [4]=1, [2]=1} table.sort(t) print(t) |
| 21:37.16 | lua_bot | ScytheBlade1: attempt to compare nil with number |
| 21:37.24 | ScytheBlade1 | bah |
| 21:37.34 | alestane | ScytheBlade1: It may. The behavior is not deterministic, based on details of Lua's implementation that may very depending on how your array was constructed. |
| 21:37.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm trying to do a timer mod |
| 21:38.03 | ScytheBlade1 | and in short, it tracks debuffs across multiple mobs |
| 21:38.20 | wsoul | brb |
| 21:38.22 | ScytheBlade1 | it may start one debuff on a new mob that expires before an existing debuff on a known mob expires |
| 21:38.24 | alestane | Then implement your own sort...the default one is likely to be too simplistic. |
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| 21:38.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I have, the problem is gaps in the table |
| 21:39.00 | ScytheBlade1 | At least, I believe so |
| 21:39.04 | alestane | table.maxn(t) |
| 21:39.53 | ScytheBlade1 | lua> t={[1]=1, [4]=1, [2]=1} table.maxn(t) |
| 21:39.53 | lua_bot | ScytheBlade1: No output |
| 21:40.07 | ScytheBlade1 | sits confused |
| 21:40.13 | alestane | I thought that was it... |
| 21:40.25 | ScytheBlade1 | http://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/table.maxn |
| 21:42.43 | Fisker | slaps ScytheBlade1 around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:43.01 | alestane | "Returns the largest positive numerical index of the given table, or zero if the table has no positive numerical indices. (To do its job this function does a linear traversal of the whole table.) " |
| 21:43.21 | ScytheBlade1 | A bit more detail... I have a table, and don't really care what the key is. Within the table, there is t.expires, which contains a time when this (de)buff expires |
| 21:43.56 | ScytheBlade1 | All I really want is an way to 'order' this table, or create/reuse another table, in a manner ordered with relation to t.expires |
| 21:44.24 | alestane | The other case is when you want to use non-integer keys, such as expiration times, in which case you typically need to keep another table where these keys are stored as the values of an array table, which can be sorted. Or do what CoolFloat does, and only track the earliest one, and check again when the table changes. |
| 21:44.34 | alestane | You may benefit from looking at CoolFloat. |
| 21:44.40 | alestane | But I have to go for a while. |
| 21:45.13 | Fisker | shir |
| 21:45.14 | Fisker | damnit |
| 21:45.16 | Fisker | DAMNIT |
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| 21:47.03 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ScytheBlade1: not being aware of what CoolFloat does, i think the two-table approach would probably work reasonably well for you. And shouldn't be hard to do at all... |
| 21:47.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I looked at it, and it is close but not quite what I'm doing |
| 21:48.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Still trying to get my head around how the two table approach would work exactly |
| 21:48.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I've poked at a secondary table but seeing as this code runs OnUpdate, it sounds painful |
| 21:51.06 | Dagmar | CoolFloat: Specifies as many decimal places as it feels like, and doesn't take crap from anyone for it |
| 21:52.05 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: you never printed it |
| 21:52.17 | ScytheBlade1 | was waiting for someone to make a decimal places joke |
| 21:52.18 | Cide | lua> t={[1]=1, [4]=1, [2]=1} print(table.maxn(t)) |
| 21:52.18 | lua_bot | Cide: 4 |
| 21:52.34 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, I was using the wrong bot |
| 21:52.36 | ScytheBlade1 | explains that |
| 21:52.44 | Cide | same bot but no print() |
| 21:54.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I know |
| 21:54.15 | ScytheBlade1 | there is another bot that would just print it though, I thought |
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| 22:22.02 | Dagmar | So... |
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| 22:22.19 | alestane | Shirik: Ping |
| 22:22.31 | Dagmar | Who wants to start a pool on whether or not there'll be a statistically significant number of kids who'll get Diablo III and want to know why it plays hold music? |
| 22:22.33 | alestane | Oh, no Shirik. |
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| 22:29.34 | Shirik | reticulating splines |
| 22:30.55 | alestane | Shirik: Have any advice about how to diagnose an inability to allocate system paged pool memory? |
| 22:31.28 | Shirik | that sounds like an odd question |
| 22:32.06 | Cide | <alestane> Oh, no Shirik. |
| 22:32.06 | Cide | * Shirik (n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) gick in i #wowuidev |
| 22:32.07 | Cide | scary. |
| 22:32.23 | Shirik | gick? |
| 22:33.03 | Cide | stupid xchat installed in swedish |
| 22:33.05 | Cide | it says joined |
| 22:33.21 | Shirik | wait wait |
| 22:33.21 | alestane | My wife's server is ahving serious issues and the Event log is reporting processes being "unable to allocate memory from the system paged pool." |
| 22:33.26 | Shirik | so alestane immediately went to me? |
| 22:33.39 | Shirik | alestane believes in my knowledge? o.o |
| 22:33.46 | alestane | You seem to know more about the innards of Windows than anyone else I know. |
| 22:33.49 | Dagmar | Not bad |
| 22:33.59 | Dagmar | All I can say is "make sure the disk isn't full or corrupted" |
| 22:34.15 | Dagmar | ..which is probably causing it, but ther'es no telling |
| 22:34.15 | Shirik | alestane: event ID? |
| 22:34.25 | A-KO | don't disable the page file? |
| 22:34.33 | alestane | Not available right now, she's not at work anymore. |
| 22:34.40 | Dagmar | Shirik: Don't let W7 touch your XP NTFS filesystems if you'd like to boot them again |
| 22:35.20 | Dagmar | Shirik: Turns out it was more than just failing to recurse. It was diligently shoving bamboo under the fingernails of that store |
| 22:35.20 | Shirik | ok alestane well if you get me the entire event trace it would be far more useful :) |
| 22:35.30 | Shirik | You should ask, as well, how many files are open |
| 22:35.38 | Shirik | (or, better yet, if there are any services that are failing to close files) |
| 22:35.53 | Shirik | there are tools to use to figure out "why" but they're a pain to use |
| 22:36.03 | Shirik | it's usually better to do some kind of qualitative analysis on what's running |
| 22:37.21 | Shirik | alestane: Is it a highly used server? |
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| 22:39.43 | Mikk | Cide: "Läge (+v) Mikk" mhm it's awesome. |
| 22:40.00 | Cide | I don't even know why |
| 22:40.08 | Shirik | Log +v? |
| 22:40.15 | Tepel | "Have you tried turning it off and on again" |
| 22:40.21 | Cide | I figured it would use whatever language my OS uses |
| 22:40.23 | Cide | but no. |
| 22:40.39 | Mikk | Shirik: no "Mode (+v) Mikk" |
| 22:40.53 | Shirik | it just looks like it would be pronounced "Log" |
| 22:40.54 | Shirik | :) |
| 22:40.55 | Mikk | nuked the translation files faster than heck |
| 22:41.14 | Mikk | Shirik: related to "Lay" as in "a position" |
| 22:41.30 | Shirik | Oh so like "Luge" |
| 22:41.35 | Tepel | Lay +vertical? |
| 22:41.43 | Cide | voice... |
| 22:41.44 | Mikk | has no idea what Luge is |
| 22:41.46 | Shirik | ! |
| 22:41.49 | Shirik | Awesome sport |
| 22:41.53 | Tepel | voice isn't a position! |
| 22:42.04 | Cide | you're not a position |
| 22:42.08 | Tepel | That too |
| 22:42.13 | Shirik | Mikk: Think skateboard that you lay on and go down a hill at 70 mph |
| 22:42.26 | Cide | sounds deadly |
| 22:42.28 | Mikk | That sounds like something out of MTV |
| 22:43.44 | Cide | svn fails |
| 22:43.49 | Shirik | The athletes ride in an aerodynamic and flat position on the sled, keep their heads low to minimise air resistance. The sled is steered mainly with the feet by applying pressure on the runners. It takes a precise mix of shifting body weight, applying pressure with feet and rolling the shoulders. There are also handles for minor adjustments. |
| 22:43.50 | Shirik | They speed with speeds averaging from 120-160 km/h around high banked curves while experiencing a centripetal pull of up to 7G. |
| 22:44.09 | Cide | I junctioned (symbolic linked) Interface/Addons/<addon> to my dropbox |
| 22:44.39 | Cide | svn seems to work fine in the junctioned folder, except I can't commit because it's not a working dir |
| 22:44.55 | Shirik | you probably did it wrong |
| 22:45.03 | Cide | how so? |
| 22:45.12 | Cide | it's on windows so it's not a proper symbolic link |
| 22:45.14 | Shirik | why isn't it a working directory? |
| 22:45.20 | Shirik | junctions are seamless |
| 22:45.30 | Shirik | svn treats them just as any other folder |
| 22:45.49 | Cide | worked fine from my dropbox folder |
| 22:46.09 | Shirik | I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to do |
| 22:46.35 | Cide | are you familiar with dropbox? |
| 22:46.37 | Shirik | yes |
| 22:46.42 | Mikk | i've had that problem too |
| 22:46.49 | Cide | ok so I have my dropbox folder in documents/my dropbox |
| 22:47.08 | Mikk | i think the svn clients wants to be able to recurse ".."s until it finds your base checkout dir |
| 22:47.18 | Mikk | so if you symlink a subdir it goes emo |
| 22:47.25 | Shirik | it shouldn't Mikk |
| 22:47.34 | Shirik | because it never goes backwards |
| 22:47.36 | Cide | I can't set up dropbox to sync arbitrary folders so I put my project in dropbox and junctioned it in Addons/<addon> |
| 22:47.53 | Cide | but I can't commit without doing it from the dropbox folder |
| 22:47.59 | Shirik | you can't cd Addons/<addon> |
| 22:48.02 | Shirik | and then svn co? |
| 22:48.06 | Cide | I tried |
| 22:48.09 | Shirik | what does it say? |
| 22:48.11 | Cide | "<addon> is not a working dir" |
| 22:48.18 | Mikk | that means he can't have it in his dropbox |
| 22:48.20 | Shirik | I think it's lying to you |
| 22:48.27 | Cide | well yeah |
| 22:48.31 | Cide | the .svn folder is there |
| 22:48.37 | Shirik | try an svn cleanup |
| 22:48.57 | Shirik | I do this myself (though not with dropbox) |
| 22:49.01 | Shirik | so I don't see why you would be having a problem |
| 22:49.06 | Shirik | what version of svn are you using? |
| 22:49.17 | Cide | 1.6.5 |
| 22:49.55 | Cide | same thing after cleanup |
| 22:50.06 | Shirik | it obviously hates you |
| 22:51.07 | Cide | it worked if I commited the specific file |
| 22:51.09 | Cide | strange |
| 22:51.24 | Shirik | it really should work |
| 22:51.27 | Shirik | I've never heard of this before |
| 22:51.51 | Mikk | my svn client emos out if i tell it to "svn up SymLinkedDir" |
| 22:51.56 | Cide | seems like an underlying hack that breaks down in the edge case |
| 22:52.08 | Shirik | well don't do THAT Mikk |
| 22:52.12 | Shirik | go into the symlinked dir and svn up |
| 22:52.24 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 22:52.25 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.joewilson.house.gov/ |
| 22:52.35 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what he gets |
| 22:52.53 | Dagmar | That's Mr. Drippy's site isn't it |
| 22:53.01 | Dagmar | I'm suprised the FBI isn't all over him |
| 22:53.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Drippy? Not familiar with that |
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| 22:53.34 | ScytheBlade1 | But he's the guy who in the middle of Obama's speech last night, just yelled out "You lie!" |
| 22:53.57 | Shirik | "'Wilsonâs rudeness was particularly egregious. Angry Democrats are flooding his opponent with campaign donations, reportedly adding more than $100,000 since Wilsonâs 'moment.'" |
| 22:53.59 | Shirik | Huh? |
| 22:54.00 | Dagmar | Oh wait no that's Michael Duval I was thinking of |
| 22:54.03 | Shirik | Why would they do that |
| 22:54.22 | ScytheBlade1 | To get him out of office? |
| 22:54.30 | ScytheBlade1 | flooding Wilson's /opponent/ with cash |
| 22:54.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Not Wilson |
| 22:54.37 | Shirik | oh |
| 22:55.00 | Lunessa | American Politics - worse than making sauage |
| 22:55.05 | Dagmar | That's fairly epic |
| 22:55.17 | Dagmar | I'd like to know where this man's testicles were when Lucifer was in office |
| 22:55.25 | Dagmar | No one EVER questioned Dubya |
| 22:55.43 | ScytheBlade1 | It's one thing to disagree with the president |
| 22:55.48 | Shirik | Dagmar, everyone did |
| 22:55.55 | Shirik | just nobody in a position of political power |
| 22:56.05 | ScytheBlade1 | It's another to call him a liar in the middle a join session of congress on national television |
| 22:56.17 | Kraps | epic splash http://www.wowhead.com/ |
| 22:56.21 | Shirik | yeah that's pretty "wtf" |
| 22:56.37 | Dagmar | Shirik: No one in Congress did, to my knowledge |
| 22:56.49 | Cide | what's epic about it? |
| 22:56.56 | Zhinjio | Kraps: at least they got the boobs in there |
| 22:56.59 | Dagmar | No one was claiming Bush would make this into a "nazi state" |
| 22:57.10 | Cide | I can't see anything special |
| 22:57.14 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxHKSHvMRWE <-- video in question |
| 22:57.19 | Dagmar | Cide: Biggest public effup of the latest Republican trend towards trollery |
| 22:57.20 | ScytheBlade1 | well specific segment |
| 22:57.30 | Cide | I'm talking to Kraps |
| 23:00.18 | Kraps | Cide: its kinda nsfw |
| 23:00.25 | Cide | it's 1am |
| 23:00.39 | Cide | you think I'm at work? |
| 23:00.39 | Kraps | 7 pm you mean |
| 23:00.56 | Lunessa | Really Dagmar? Didn't he draws boos when adressing congress? |
| 23:01.06 | Cide | I'm not seeing anything in any case |
| 23:01.24 | ScytheBlade1 | The video I linked doesn't do it justice |
| 23:02.31 | Cide | again I'm talking to Kraps |
| 23:02.48 | Kraps | i gotta go eat |
| 23:04.00 | Dagmar | Lunessa: You mean Bush? Once everything was well and truly screwed up he did |
| 23:04.25 | Dagmar | At the outset of all that, and almost towards the very end, *nothing* was said against him by anyone of importance |
| 23:04.39 | Dagmar | ...or if anyone did, they were ignored by the press. |
| 23:05.13 | Dagmar | I mean, the man stood there and laughed about how "it's not a crime to lie to the american people" in front of CNN with cameras rolling, and that clip disappeared from rotation within a few hours |
| 23:05.33 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Hey - I had to listen to 8 years of the Right's fair-haired boy being called a Nazi, A criminal, a war-monger, evil, and everything else. Why is "You lie!" setting everyone in a tizzy? Let's not wear blinders here people. It's all about who's sacred cow is getting made into hamburger. |
| 23:06.06 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Typically, people don't interrupt the President when he's giving a speech |
| 23:06.26 | Dagmar | If not out of respect for the man, then out of respect for the office. |
| 23:06.30 | mikma | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info11507-BagSpace.html |
| 23:06.32 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Maybe in the last 50-60 years. But that's not historically true. |
| 23:06.39 | mikma | cool screenshots!!! |
| 23:06.45 | Dagmar | It is for recent history |
| 23:07.13 | Dagmar | Frankly I'm waiting for someone to get the scoop on where all the direction for trollery is coming from in that party |
| 23:07.36 | Dagmar | I don't think it's the upper echelons doing it, although they're starting to look suspicious by *not* passing word for people to cut it out |
| 23:07.37 | Lunessa | Lots of presidents got interrupted and/or heckled. I just fail to see why anyone is shocked. FFS someone threw a goddamned shoe at Bush. |
| 23:07.51 | Dagmar | Lunessa: That person was a reporter |
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| 23:07.55 | Dagmar | ...in another country. |
| 23:08.17 | Shirik | sets mode +b Joe_Wilson!*@* |
| 23:08.17 | Shirik | kicks Joe_Wilson (stop being a troll!) |
| 23:08.18 | Shirik | ^ needs to be in #congress |
| 23:08.20 | Dagmar | ...and I'd have thrown something more substantial than a shoe at that point. |
| 23:08.49 | Shirik | Dagmar: if you're making a comment towards the "shoe throwing" incident RE: Bush, then that was a much bigger deal than people made out of it |
| 23:09.01 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Still the point rests. It happens that Presidents get heckled or otherwise interrupted. And if you're pissed now, why weren't you pissed when it happened to other presidents? |
| 23:09.02 | Shirik | that's one of the biggest acts of disgrace in other cultures |
| 23:09.27 | Mikk | Lunessa: calling someone straight-up a liar is pretty bad tbfh |
| 23:09.35 | Lunessa | All I'm saying is that righteous indignation is only righteous when it is. |
| 23:09.42 | Dagmar | I'm not pissed. I'm basically still disgusted that since the Republicans lost control of things, and I do mean *lost control* of things, that they've resorted to base trollery. |
| 23:09.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: it's the fact that it was at a join session of congress, when a US congressman yelled it. Joint sessions of congress are not really common things to begin with. It isn't really that it happened, but who caused it and and under what cirumstances |
| 23:09.54 | Esamynn | Shirik: I thought that move was just awesome, I'd have cheered the guy too |
| 23:10.02 | Dagmar | Like, if they don't get what they want done, they're going to damn well make sure no one else gets anything done either. |
| 23:10.08 | Dagmar | So much hate |
| 23:10.55 | ScytheBlade1 | You'd think that our own elected congressmen had the willpower to keep their mouths shut, but you don't really think the same of your neighbor or local newspaper |
| 23:11.14 | ScytheBlade1 | or expect it, even |
| 23:11.27 | Lunessa | And hate by everyone and everyone blaming the other guy. And people lining up along ideological lines to blame the other ideologues. I'm saying that being pissed off over this is STUPID and fanning the flames because it happened to YOUR guy is just as stupid as it having happened in the first place. |
| 23:11.40 | Dagmar | I think Joe should either prove through rationl argumentation that he was right, or seriously consider stepping down from the post. |
| 23:11.59 | Jerub | oh, politics. |
| 23:12.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh agree entirely |
| 23:12.07 | ScytheBlade1 | *agreed |
| 23:12.10 | Dagmar | The sniping isn't any more useful than a jillion forum trolls invading congress |
| 23:12.12 | Esamynn | polidicks? :P |
| 23:12.33 | Lunessa | We didn't elect people to be perfect. We elected them to represent our collective wishes. |
| 23:13.06 | Dagmar | My wishes involve that they be able to conduct themselves in a manner that woudln't embarrass their mother. |
| 23:13.25 | Esamynn | Dagmar: but you're not the collective :P |
| 23:13.47 | Lunessa | And mine include people stop acting like they were in fucking high school and being outraged over trivia. |
| 23:13.51 | Dagmar | Spreading crazy-talk about 'death courts' and 'this will make us socialists' isn't productive |
| 23:17.52 | Esamynn | Dagmar: isn't that what republicans do though? smear people until they get their way... even when their way is completely and utterly inane... |
| 23:18.13 | Dagmar | They used to actually not suck this much tho |
| 23:18.16 | Dagmar | It's gotten BAD since the RNC |
| 23:18.16 | Esamynn | facts aren't relevant |
| 23:18.24 | Esamynn | only VICTORY! |
| 23:18.41 | Esamynn | RNC? |
| 23:19.03 | Dagmar | I mean, if the idiots holding the protests weren't such, well, *idiots* the RNC would have managed to burn their own reputation for being crazy fascists |
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| 23:24.29 | kdtresh | meh, you can put a D or an R after a turd and it's still a turd |
| 23:24.54 | WobWork | wouldn't it be a turddr? |
| 23:24.55 | tem | Well, Esamynn, what irritates me the most about it is that I identify myself as a Republican on a large enough number of issues that the insanity that is the Republican party right now is an enormous embarrasment |
| 23:25.11 | Dagmar | Ding |
| 23:25.19 | Dagmar | That's definitely hitting the nail on the head. |
| 23:25.28 | Dagmar | I'm not a Republican and I'm ashamed their acting such fools. |
| 23:25.43 | Dagmar | They're going to burn their reputation capital to the ground. |
| 23:26.32 | WobWork | the problem with political parties, is that they always invite the wrong people, some people gatecrash and there's always the bastard who sits in the toilet and lets the queue form up front |
| 23:27.31 | tem | FUCK IT |
| 23:27.33 | tem | We'll do it live |
| 23:27.37 | kdtresh | i think the bigger problem is that they're more concerned about the next election cycle than actually getting something accomplished |
| 23:27.41 | WobWork | (actually what I meant to say was "... they can only match your political viewpoint -better- than the others" but got sidetracked) |
| 23:28.04 | kdtresh | sometimes "getting something done" is required to "get re-elected" |
| 23:28.16 | kdtresh | and when it is, they actually make some effort |
| 23:28.19 | WobWork | kdtresh: and the rest of the time, it's who you pay |
| 23:28.28 | Esamynn | Dagmar: I'm surprised they have any left |
| 23:29.06 | Dagmar | Well, at this point, I'd take some *useful* speechifying out of them as a valid contribution |
| 23:29.24 | Dagmar | We were literally less than a year away from pitchforks and torches for awhile there |
| 23:29.43 | Dagmar | Yes, Obama won because he offererd _hope_ because there was _no_ hope in what was currently going on. |
| 23:30.00 | kdtresh | you can wrap a turd in "hope" and it's still a turd :P |
| 23:30.17 | kdtresh | just like you can wrap a turd in the flag and it's still a turd |
| 23:30.21 | Dagmar | Yes, but if people believe it's not a turd for a little while it'll make them less likely to throw it at someone |
| 23:30.35 | kdtresh | yes, but when they get their hopes up and find out it's a turd, what are they supposed to think? |
| 23:30.47 | Dagmar | Same turd, different day |
| 23:30.57 | Esamynn | a polished turd is still a turd? |
| 23:31.03 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 23:31.04 | kdtresh | indeed |
| 23:31.05 | Esamynn | any more "turd" sayings? |
| 23:31.19 | kdtresh | i don't know, but turd fergusson is a funny name |
| 23:31.25 | WobWork | "Nothing is stranger than platypus turd"? |
| 23:31.27 | Dagmar | heh |
| 23:32.21 | Dagmar | I'm not kidding about hte pitchforks thing. Should something have occurred to delay Bush leaving office, all hell would have broken loose |
| 23:32.32 | Dagmar | McCain got lucky |
| 23:35.12 | Esamynn | and yet, McCain would probably have been elected if not for a STUPID pulled by the Bush Administration |
| 23:35.19 | Dagmar | I won't argue that |
| 23:35.28 | Dagmar | I don't believe it, but I think it's possible it could have happened. |
| 23:35.59 | Esamynn | at the very least, it would have been a lot closer if they had bailed out Leeman Bros. |
| 23:36.00 | Dagmar | I just don't think he would have been able to keep his party under control, or convince the people who were at the breaking point with Republicans to not just start burning stuff down |
| 23:36.30 | Dagmar | I think all the poor people would have risen up and started setting things on fire had McCain gotten in |
| 23:36.41 | Esamynn | shrugs |
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| 23:38.11 | mikma | tem: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=106201.msg1446028#msg1446028 |
| 23:38.50 | Esamynn | mikma: wait, wait, someone is trying to teach someone else English? |
| 23:39.00 | Esamynn | that's unpossible |
| 23:39.08 | mikma | esamynn: "your gay"! |
| 23:39.24 | Esamynn | my gay .... what? |
| 23:39.25 | kdtresh | esamynn has a gay? |
| 23:40.15 | WobWork | what's the upkeep for one of those? |
| 23:40.31 | mikma | gay'ish |
| 23:40.41 | Kraps | whats a kidding me |
| 23:41.08 | Esamynn | WobWork: I don't know, gotta be pretty small seeing as how I didn't even notice I had one |
| 23:41.23 | WobWork | Shh |
| 23:41.31 | WobWork | if you spread it around, soon, -everyone- will want one |
| 23:51.12 | Thunder_Child | "+Esamynn: WobWork: I don't know, gotta be pretty small seeing as how I didn't even notice I had one" this is the first thing i read when i sat down....now i am sorry i did |
| 23:52.32 | mikma | nice |
| 23:52.40 | mikma | "your funny"! |
| 23:52.52 | Kraps | the comments are killing me http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=5025 |
| 23:52.56 | kdtresh | "you're mom"? |
| 23:52.59 | Thunder_Child | the funny is all mine? |
| 23:53.01 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: /sigh |
| 23:53.14 | Thunder_Child | dont look at me Esamynn, you wrote it |
| 23:53.31 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: and you took it out of conext :P |
| 23:54.00 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, i do however have a perverse desire to email that to Felicia Day |
| 23:54.53 | Esamynn | O_o |
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| 23:56.05 | Esamynn | Shirik|Ghost: you're looking very pale today |
| 23:57.22 | kdtresh | quittin time, take it easy everyone |
