IRC log for #wowuidev on 20090830

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`00:08.36`	`Shirik`	`wikifail :(`
`00:08.39`	`Shirik`	`"At nine minutes, The Sorcerer's Apprentice ran two minutes longer than the average cartoon short of that time, whose length was nearly always no longer than seven minutes."`
`00:08.54`	`Shirik`	`That seems to imply that EVERY cartoon was EXACTLY seven minutes.`
`00:10.50`	`Dagmar`	`That's what they aimed for`
`00:11.15`	`Dagmar`	`...like damn near every pop song is three minutes long, and anything played in a strip club is even shorter.`
`00:11.32`	`Shirik`	`yeah well pop stars are stupid`
`00:11.47`	`Shirik`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTdhXxxWREo Does that look like 3 minutes to you?`
`00:11.51`	`Dagmar`	`I'm going to see about getting another CNN reporter into trouble tonight`
`00:12.10`	`Shirik`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A4WoHxL3GQ also not 3 minutes!`
`00:12.13`	`Shirik`	`Screw pop`
`00:12.22`	`Dagmar`	`They had yet another "oh the emusic revolution is unprofitabuhl and so confusing!" "report" the other night`
`00:12.36`	`Shirik`	`lol`
`00:12.38`	`Dagmar`	`...where yet again, someone utterly failed to do their research and mentions Radiohead.`
`00:12.58`	`Dagmar`	`"After three months, they went back to selling their album through traditional outlets"`
`00:13.25`	`*** join/#wowuidev WobNet (n=Wobin@124-170-216-168.dyn.iinet.net.au)`
`00:13.40`	`Dagmar`	`No mention--and in fact, complete denial--of the fact that they made more money off the "Pay What You Want" method than all of their other albums combined`
`00:14.03`	`Dagmar`	`That's not news, that's lying`
`00:15.05`	`Dagmar`	`They went on bloody talk shows and were telling everyone how happy about it they were... and news outlets refuse to remember`
`00:15.42`	`Shirik`	`Anyone have familiarity with autoconf/automake? How hard to use?`
`00:16.14`	`Dagmar`	`That depends on which end of it you're staring down`
`00:16.45`	`Dagmar`	`If you're trying to start a new project, it's a hell of a lot of reading to figure out what you have to do to make a semi-usable configure script manifest itself`
`00:16.56`	`Dagmar`	`If you're looking at one that's set up, it's pretty easy`
`00:16.57`	`Shirik`	`new project`
`00:17.23`	`Dagmar`	`Being that I know you can read, it might take you an evening?`
`00:18.04`	`Shirik`	`how do you know I can read?`
`00:18.27`	`Dagmar`	`By contrasting you with the people on IRC who are functionally illiterat`
`00:18.27`	`Dagmar`	`e`
`00:18.46`	`Dagmar`	`They skim, they scan, they pick for keywords, but they don't actually _read_`
`00:20.59`	`Shirik`	`like Fisker?`
`00:23.09`	`Torhal`	`Shirik: He skims? I thought he just pulled things from his arse.`
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`00:30.55`	`cogwheel`	`anyone know if win7 plays nicely with ipods yet? Didn't sync for me the first time i tried it on RTM...`
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`00:34.28`	`Wobin`	`cogwheel: lemme give it a go`
`00:36.16`	`Sesshu`	`~good night`
`00:36.17`	`purl`	`Good night, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry!`
`00:36.30`	`cogwheel`	`http://www.sadtrombone.com/`
`00:37.13`	`Wobin`	`http://www.dramabutton.com/`
`00:38.03`	`cogwheel`	`http://instantrimshot.com/`
`00:38.12`	`Wobin`	`I <3 the internet`
`00:38.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i want a cookie :(`
`00:38.46`	`cogwheel`	`http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5430343841227974645`
`00:38.52`	`cogwheel`	`(NSFW)`
`00:38.57`	`cogwheel`	`(if you have sound)`
`00:39.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`(thats really old) :P`
`00:39.30`	`cogwheel`	`NightHawkTheSane: was just sharing the internet <3`
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`00:40.03`	`cogwheel`	`http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php lol win7 is already catching up with linux`
`00:40.30`	`Wobin`	`I'm finding it adequate =)`
`00:40.53`	`Wobin`	`cogwheel: looks like it's synching fine for my iphone`
`00:40.57`	`cogwheel`	`I was loving it except for the few (arguably important) things that didn't work`
`00:41.10`	`Wobin`	`what are you missing?`
`00:41.53`	`cogwheel`	`ipod wouldn't sync, a couple crash-y games (don't remember which ones)`
`00:42.27`	`cogwheel`	`i loved using it but it was annoying to switch back and forth`
`00:43.53`	`cogwheel`	`oh... that report was generated 7/31... RTM was released to MSDN on 8/6`
`00:58.30`	`Wobin`	`cogwheel: Make sure you deauthorize your itunes account before upgrading`
`00:59.19`	`cogwheel`	`nod`
`00:59.32`	`cogwheel`	`and uninstall VS2010 iirc`
`01:02.53`	`Corrodias`	`god forbid your drive ever crash and leave you unable to do that`
`01:02.57`	`Corrodias`	`you'll be a thief!`
`01:19.02`	`Shirik`	`yo, GNU gurus`
`01:19.16`	`Shirik`	`does the makefile go in the src directory or the root directory of a project?`
`01:19.35`	`Shirik`	`sounds like a strange question but I don't think it is :/`
`01:20.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`src i think, but i think ive seen some projects with a makefile in the root directory that just redirected everything to the one in the src dir`
`01:22.14`	`tekkub`	`symlinks for everyone!`
`01:22.20`	`tekkub`	`then one of them HAS to be right`
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`01:30.03`	`Kraps`	`morning (evening)`
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`02:00.11`	`myrkraverk`	`Shirik, depends on the project/how ppl like to work with makefiles`
`02:00.23`	`myrkraverk`	`and that is all I'm going to say; good night all`
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`02:20.13`	`batrick`	`Shirik: usually there is a top level makefile for building the entire project, and then a makefile in each source directory`
`02:20.25`	`Shirik`	`that's what I thought`
`02:20.38`	`Shirik`	`however I have found a better option`
`02:20.41`	`Shirik`	`screw automake/autoconf`
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`02:40.20`	`Wobin`	`interesting: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,642310,00.html`
`02:43.38`	`Corrodias`	`i shall read that in a bit`
`02:46.38`	`Cairenn`	`interesting indeed`
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`02:55.58`	`DWSR`	`hey all`
`02:56.03`	`Cairenn`	`hi`
`02:56.12`	`Corrodias`	`yo`
`02:56.27`	`DWSR`	`any good news on the wow front?`
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`02:58.50`	`Adys`	`Cairenn!`
`02:58.57`	`Cairenn`	`Adys!`
`02:59.04`	`Adys`	`You didn't say hi at BlizzCon!`
`02:59.12`	`Cairenn`	`I didn't see you at BlizzCon`
`02:59.13`	`DWSR`	`Dude`
`02:59.23`	`Adys`	`I was right in front of you yelling "HI CAIRENN"`
`02:59.25`	`Adys`	`(no seriously)`
`02:59.39`	`Adys`	`((then again Ozzy was shouting louder than I was))`
`02:59.41`	`tekkub`	`did you run at her and hug her?`
`02:59.41`	`Cairenn`	`I ... really honestly don't remember`
`02:59.42`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`02:59.50`	`Cairenn`	`THAT ^^`
`02:59.58`	`Cairenn`	`you should have come hugged me`
`02:59.59`	`Adys`	`I was next to kirk and kd3`
`03:00.05`	`Adys`	`I cant you ran off :(`
`03:00.06`	`tekkub`	`if you don't broadside her, literally, she'll miss you`
`03:00.09`	`Cairenn`	`I came over and hugged them!`
`03:00.11`	`DWSR`	`o9o`
`03:00.15`	`DWSR`	`lol*`
`03:00.15`	`Adys`	`exactly!`
`03:00.25`	`kd3`	`where did you wander off to anyway?`
`03:00.27`	`Cairenn`	`why the hell didn't you come to supper?`
`03:00.31`	`Cairenn`	`back to the UI crew`
`03:00.33`	`kd3`	`I probably should've followed you... I would've gotten my hearing back sooner`
`03:00.34`	`Cairenn`	`you missed it`
`03:00.39`	`Cairenn`	`we had a blast`
`03:00.45`	`Cairenn`	`I was up dancing on a chair`
`03:00.46`	`Adys`	`I wasn't in Anaheim in time`
`03:00.54`	`Adys`	`was still in Cylmar`
`03:00.59`	`Adys`	`(Sylmar?)`
`03:01.09`	`Cairenn`	`well why the hell didn't you get my cell number or something`
`03:01.14`	`Cairenn`	`kirk & kd3 both had it`
`03:01.26`	`Cairenn`	`smacks kd3 - why didn't you introduce us!`
`03:01.35`	`Adys`	`my phone wasn't working. not compatible with your country or something.`
`03:01.35`	`batrick`	`Cairenn is super raged she didn't get a hug from Adys`
`03:01.37`	`kd3`	`you hugged me then ran off`
`03:01.44`	`batrick`	`You messed up badly Adys :(`
`03:01.45`	`Cairenn`	`hehehe`
`03:01.51`	`Adys`	`I know batrick`
`03:01.57`	`Cairenn`	`I was ... already drinking ... and partying ....`
`03:02.01`	`Cairenn`	`;)`
`03:02.04`	`kd3`	`>.>`
`03:02.19`	`DWSR`	`and nekkid?`
`03:02.27`	`Cairenn`	`not quite`
`03:02.32`	`DWSR`	`sure sure`
`03:02.32`	`kd3`	`no. we all would've been killed to cover that up`
`03:02.37`	`Adys`	`pictures would be up all over google news if she were`
`03:02.57`	`Cairenn`	`I'm really surprised that pictures haven't shown up yet, to be honest`
`03:02.58`	`Dagmar`	`Nah, ther'es other websites for that... .like TMZ`
`03:03.03`	`DWSR`	`lol`
`03:03.39`	`Cairenn`	`since I know a lot of people really liked my top and how nicely it showed off my [temporary] tattoo`
`03:04.33`	`Cairenn`	`I guess maybe folks are waiting for me to get my thread posted (with actual text, not just placeholder)`
`03:04.47`	`Cairenn`	`but I've been so sick since I've been home, I haven't felt up to it`
`03:06.05`	`Wobin`	`http://www.flickr.com/photos/preshaa/3847027500/sizes/l/`
`03:06.14`	`Wobin`	`also: wtf Mermahuataur? =)`
`03:06.27`	`Corrodias`	`oh sweet`
`03:06.29`	`Wobin`	`Camahueto? I've never heard of those =P`
`03:09.08`	`Shirik`	`(23:02:19) (kd3) no. we all would've been killed to cover that up`
`03:09.09`	`Shirik`	`She would do it`
`03:09.19`	`Shirik`	`she kills to cover up any pictures`
`03:09.31`	`Shirik`	`That's why none have shown up yet`
`03:09.41`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
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`03:12.29`	`Wobin`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOKHlWAp4No&feature=player_embedded`
`03:12.32`	`Wobin`	`omg`
`03:12.38`	`Wobin`	`fox news, that's awesome reporting`
`03:14.19`	`Cairenn`	`rofl`
`03:14.23`	`Shirik`	`o______o`
`03:14.27`	`Adys`	`wtf was that`
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`03:14.39`	`Shirik`	`pushing to googlecode.com...`
`03:14.42`	`tekkub`	`...`
`03:14.46`	`tekkub`	`I am ashamed`
`03:14.48`	`Shirik`	`4 changesets found`
`03:14.48`	`Shirik`	`HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error`
`03:14.53`	`Shirik`	`google, you fail me!`
`03:18.45`	`kd3`	`directv, stop failing`
`03:18.52`	`kd3`	`wtb non-broken nasatv coverage`
`03:19.24`	`Yssaril`	`anyone know where i can get the "Custom UI Toolkit" ? the link on worldofwarcraft.com 404's`
`03:19.50`	`kd3`	`~framexml`
`03:19.51`	`purl`	`Official: (Mac) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.dmg, (Win) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.zip. Compare: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser`
`03:20.12`	`Yssaril`	`kd3 thanks`
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`03:24.28`	`*** mode/#wowuidev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`03:24.50`	`DWSR`	`my dog's such a spoiled brat.`
`03:25.07`	`DWSR`	`He jumps onto my bed (where he usually sleeps) and plops himself down on my pillow.`
`03:27.48`	`Dagmar`	`Now that poor cardboard bear has to face a lifetime of people calling the police when they see it becasue of the dramatic reenactment.`
`03:28.25`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`03:28.53`	`Adys`	`http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/ss174.jpg`
`03:28.57`	`Adys`	`Does that look like exodar at all?`
`03:29.36`	`kd3`	`kinda`
`03:29.41`	`kd3`	`tries to draw the map in his head`
`03:29.42`	`Adys`	`which part?`
`03:29.43`	`DWSR`	`yes, sorta.`
`03:30.04`	`Adys`	`this is an alpha-ish screenshot, I'm curious to see how much its changed`
`03:30.09`	`kd3`	`trader's tier`
`03:30.12`	`Adys`	`i just went over 1700 screenshots and not much has`
`03:30.15`	`kd3`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/File:WorldMap-TheExodar.jpg`
`03:30.33`	`kd3`	`the shot's taken from the bottom right portion of the green section looking more-or-less west`
`03:35.02`	`Yssaril`	`kd3: any good blp converter?`
`03:35.15`	`Yssaril`	`~blp`
`03:35.16`	`purl`	`blp is probably the abbreviation for Blizzard Picture, a graphical file format created and used by blizzard for nearly all of WC3 and WoW textures.`
`03:35.24`	`kd3`	`google <3. the one I use used to be on curse. "BLP Converter"`
`03:36.07`	`Kraps`	`any fury warriors here?`
`03:36.11`	`kd3`	`it's a console only program`
`03:36.19`	`kd3`	`which works great considering how scripted my setup is`
`03:38.23`	`Adys`	`which reminds me`
`03:38.33`	`Adys`	`I need to add blp to PIL`
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`03:42.06`	`Yssaril`	`kd3: sweet that works perfect :)`
`03:44.51`	`Dagmar`	`Adys: THat would be nice. :)`
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`03:48.53`	`Cairenn`	`pokes bleeter`
`03:49.21`	`TC-Away`	`raises an eyebrow at Cairenn`
`03:50.03`	`Cairenn`	`he was pouting because I just called him a friend :p`
`03:50.19`	`Thunder_Child`	`um...lol?`
`03:50.42`	`Thunder_Child`	`thats odd even for bleeter`
`03:50.49`	`Cairenn`	`he's #9 on my stalker list`
`03:50.50`	`kd3`	`^`
`03:50.52`	`Cairenn`	`;)`
`03:50.57`	`Thunder_Child`	`it would however be normal for Fisker`
`03:51.12`	`kd3`	`tries to come up with something to say`
`03:52.09`	`kd3`	`wtfs at that fox story`
`03:52.31`	`Cairenn`	`bleeter: changed it, just for you!`
`03:53.16`	`Cairenn`	`in other news`
`03:53.35`	`Cairenn`	`Ackis and bleeter, up a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g!`
`03:55.20`	`Thunder_Child`	`and now Cairenn is being odd even for Cairenn`
`03:55.32`	`Thunder_Child`	`GG. it must be a full moon`
`03:55.41`	`DWSR`	`Thunder_Child has sealed his own fate.`
`03:55.46`	`DWSR`	`Cairenn deep breaths.`
`03:56.24`	`Cairenn`	`hehehe`
`03:59.49`	`Adys`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kcfentFKko#t=3m35s`
`04:02.50`	`Keias`	`I loved that movie.`
`04:03.10`	`bleeter`	`demands Coffee`
`04:04.02`	`Cairenn`	`Adys: ROFL`
`04:04.22`	`Cairenn`	`bleeter: ;)`
`04:05.00`	`Cairenn`	`bleeter: I forgotted who you were irl, that's why I just went with "friend"`
`04:05.10`	`Cairenn`	`once you started bitching though, I fixed it ;)`
`04:05.37`	`bleeter`	`Cairenn: you're not using pidgin? :(`
`04:05.43`	`Cairenn`	`yes`
`04:05.51`	`bleeter`	`help->about ... :P`
`04:05.52`	`Cairenn`	`why?`
`04:06.00`	`bleeter`	`if you ever need to remember me ;)`
`04:06.01`	`Cairenn`	`yeah yeah, I know, I just forgotted`
`04:06.06`	`bleeter`	`~lart Cairenn`
`04:06.06`	`purl`	`whips out a sword and chops Cairenn in half`
`04:06.13`	`bleeter`	`ah well, yer an ill girl.. i should forgive you`
`04:06.15`	`kd3`	`forgotted? you are tired`
`04:06.17`	`kd3`	`go crash`
`04:06.26`	`Cairenn`	`gimme a break, I'm sick as a dog right now`
`04:06.38`	`ScytheBlade1`	`KJSHDFKLJLJHSDFLKJJHSDKJFSDHLKSJDFH`
`04:06.42`	`ScytheBlade1`	`SOMEONE JUST BOUGHT ME A GAMECARD`
`04:06.45`	`ScytheBlade1`	`WHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY`
`04:06.46`	`*** mode/#wowuidev [+rRf #shiibot] by Shiibot`
`04:06.46`	`Shiibot`	`Channel locked temporarily. Elapsed time: 7188 minutes`
`04:06.49`	`ScytheBlade1`	`... lol`
`04:06.51`	`Cairenn`	`speaking of which, anyone want a lung? I seem to be hacking them up all over the place`
`04:07.04`	`kd3`	`lmao`
`04:07.06`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Cairenn: :( I'm just getting over a nasty cold... still hacking stuff up`
`04:07.08`	`kd3`	`way to break the channel`
`04:07.13`	`kd3`	`and I just caught it`
`04:07.16`	`kd3`	`go me`
`04:07.20`	`ScytheBlade1`	`yeah, well, the rage was justified`
`04:07.21`	`Cairenn`	`laughs at ScytheBlade1`
`04:07.25`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Shirik: sorry`
`04:07.28`	`kd3`	`hasn't had a nasty cold like this in years`
`04:07.29`	`Cairenn`	`kd3: it's the 'con cold`
`04:07.30`	`Thunder_Child`	`you broke the record ScytheBlade1`
`04:07.34`	`Shirik`	`?`
`04:07.38`	`Shirik`	`You are so bad`
`04:07.39`	`ScytheBlade1`	`scroll up`
`04:07.40`	`Thunder_Child`	`and Cairenn, cigs....`
`04:08.20`	`*** mode/#wowuidev [-rRf] by Shirik`
`04:08.20`	`Shirik`	`!reload`
`04:08.20`	`Shiibot`	`AI routines & configuration reloaded`
`04:08.20`	`Cairenn`	`Thunder_Child: they aren't helping`
`04:08.20`	`Cairenn`	`Thunder_Child: I know`
`04:12.02`	`bleeter`	`Cairenn: u leik teh fags? one word: Varenicline`
`04:12.48`	`Cairenn`	`ah`
`04:12.59`	`bleeter`	`s/liek/can't quite find the strength to give em up/`
`04:15.26`	`bleeter`	`ooOO http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19377970107&sid=1&pageNo=5#98`
`04:15.30`	`bleeter`	`nice suggestion`
`04:15.55`	`bleeter`	`'You can't be saved to an instance in progress if nobody else -already saved- is currently in that instance.'`
`04:16.01`	`bleeter`	`(this is the Yogg0 grief thread)`
`04:16.59`	`bleeter`	`GMs also don't seem to be aware that it's going on week on week: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19377970107&sid=1&pageNo=6#105`
`04:17.12`	`Thunder_Child`	`week on week?`
`04:17.47`	`Corrodias`	`week after week, i suppose`
`04:18.01`	`Thunder_Child`	`i know, i just wanted to fuck with bleeter`
`04:21.23`	`ScytheBlade1`	`sighs at wine building`
`04:21.58`	`bleeter`	`ScytheBlade1: rent a video`
`04:22.19`	`ScytheBlade1`	`actually, I should be able to build this on my i7, and copy it over to my laptop..`
`04:24.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm is there some way to tweak the maximize window boundaries in gnome?`
`04:24.50`	`bleeter`	`?`
`04:25.08`	`Shirik`	`Any vim gurus?`
`04:25.19`	`Shirik`	`I thought the way to add something to beginning of a block of lines was`
`04:25.21`	`Shirik`	`nm`
`04:25.24`	`Shirik`	`I just remembered what I did wrong`
`04:25.30`	`bleeter`	`Shirik: /join #vim ?`
`04:25.35`	`Shirik`	`nana`
`04:25.37`	`Shirik`	`I gots this`
`04:26.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`im messing with a dock app that sits at the bottom of the screen, and i dont want maximized windows to go all the way to the bottom, i tried creating a transparent gnome panel but its covering the dock`
`04:27.05`	`bleeter`	`Arrowmaster: oh, /shrug`
`04:28.07`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`04:28.09`	`ScytheBlade1`	`another channel`
`04:28.12`	`ScytheBlade1`	`small-ish`
`04:28.14`	`*** join/#wowuidev Zhinjio (n=Geo@70-91-168-59-BusName-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)`
`04:28.27`	`bleeter`	`?`
`04:28.59`	`ScytheBlade1`	`guy A: "immmmm i m gay now" guy B: "what" C: "now?" A: "big balls...." B: "Er"`
`04:29.02`	`ScytheBlade1`	`five minutes later`
`04:29.13`	`bleeter`	`http://tinyurl.com/vim-facebook lol`
`04:29.32`	`ScytheBlade1`	`A: "[significant other] typed that while i was at the bar ;/" A: "dammit"`
`04:30.26`	`Shirik`	`I think Windows 7 severely fucked programs like vim`
`04:30.36`	`Shirik`	`Ctrl-V no longer does what it's supposed to do`
`04:30.42`	`bleeter`	`wut`
`04:30.45`	`ScytheBlade1`	`shift+insert`
`04:30.55`	`Shirik`	`no`
`04:30.59`	`Shirik`	`that's NOT what's supposed to happen`
`04:31.05`	`Shirik`	`Ctrl+V is supposed to go into visual block mode`
`04:31.14`	`Shirik`	`but windows is all like "lololol I paste 4 u!"`
`04:31.32`	`bleeter`	`*piste`
`04:32.28`	`Shirik`	`oh wow....`
`04:32.50`	`Shirik`	`0 [main] rm 1972 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to rm.exe.stackdump`
`04:33.43`	`DWSR`	`nice shirik.`
`04:33.47`	`DWSR`	`you broked the interwebs.`
`04:39.59`	`*** join/#wowuidev Relcuse (n=me@adsl-71-145-132-194.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net)`
`04:40.17`	`bleeter`	`Shirik: me > you http://bleeter.pastey.net/124297`
`04:43.30`	`Shirik`	`ok unix gurus. To further my knowledge, tell me how I could have done this better`
`04:43.36`	`Shirik`	`I wanted to change all .c files to .cpp in a folder`
`04:43.40`	`Shirik`	`I did find . -iname "*.c" \| xargs -I ^ mv ^ ^pp`
`04:43.44`	`bleeter`	`ScytheBlade1: you building wine from git? did you get the above?`
`04:43.59`	`ScytheBlade1`	`rename *.c .c .cpp`
`04:44.00`	`ScytheBlade1`	`or similar`
`04:44.06`	`ScytheBlade1`	`bleeter: in progress..`
`04:44.15`	`Shirik`	`I seriously can do that?`
`04:44.17`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I lied, other way`
`04:44.24`	`bleeter`	`ScytheBlade1: is rename recursive?`
`04:44.26`	`ScytheBlade1`	`rename .c .cpp *.c`
`04:44.38`	`ScytheBlade1`	`hm probably not @ recursive`
`04:44.47`	`Shirik`	`didn't need recursive`
`04:45.34`	`bleeter`	`ScytheBlade1: cheers, lemme know if you get a complete build pls :)`
`04:45.54`	`Shirik`	`woot`
`04:46.03`	`Shirik`	`Lua's table library conflicts with Qt`
`04:46.31`	`ScytheBlade1`	`YOu didn't rename lua's c --> cpp, did you?`
`04:46.33`	`ScytheBlade1`	`*You`
`04:47.35`	`Shirik`	`maybe >.>`
`04:47.39`	`ScytheBlade1`	`...`
`04:47.51`	`ScytheBlade1`	`1) bad`
`04:47.52`	`Shirik`	`It was building as C and then dying!`
`04:47.54`	`ScytheBlade1`	`2) lua.hpp`
`04:48.10`	`ScytheBlade1`	`bleeter: Wine build complete.`
`04:48.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`you know not everything written in C is valid C++`
`04:48.19`	`Shirik`	`Lua is`
`04:48.22`	`bleeter`	`ScytheBlade1: well, bum`
`04:49.09`	`bleeter`	`kd3: have you built wine today? ;)`
`04:49.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`bleeter: his build would likely be /very/ similar to mine`
`04:49.40`	`bleeter`	`ScytheBlade1: you on F11 as well?`
`04:49.47`	`ScytheBlade1`	`yes`
`04:49.53`	`bleeter`	`well.. hmm`
`04:50.05`	`Shirik`	`$ rename .cpp .c *.cpp`
`04:50.06`	`Shirik`	`bash: rename: command not found`
`04:50.07`	`Shirik`	`bad ScytheBlade1`
`04:50.23`	`*** join/#wowuidev DWSR (n=brandonm@CPE001346de8044-CM00080d71a84c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`04:50.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`use a real bash`
`04:50.38`	`bleeter`	`ScytheBlade1: hmm`
`04:51.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`rename is from perl on my system`
`04:51.07`	`bleeter`	`wonders what he's missing`
`04:51.25`	`bleeter`	`it's from util-linux-ng-2.14.2-9.fc11.x86_64 on fedora`
`04:51.35`	`bleeter`	`ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux-ng`
`04:53.53`	`Shirik`	`making me resort to $ find . -iname ".cpp" \| grep -o "^.\\.c" \| xargs -I ^ mv ^pp ^`
`04:53.54`	`Shirik`	`:(`
`04:53.59`	`Shirik`	`but hey`
`04:54.02`	`Shirik`	`at least it's possible`
`04:54.49`	`bleeter`	`Shirik: there's some reason you can't install util-ng?`
`04:55.07`	`Shirik`	`spawning cygwin setup takes way too long`
`04:55.24`	`bleeter`	`oh yer in windows`
`04:55.34`	`Arrowmaster`	im so going to make a script for `rename 's/_/\ /g' file`
`04:56.22`	`bleeter`	`ScytheBlade1: odd, would seem I've 'lost' some i586 -devel's along the way... :/`
`04:56.43`	`bleeter`	`though, nothing obviously important`
`04:57.16`	`ScytheBlade1`	`http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-9cca3efe8b57810a966d04db51d8000e601d7e26`
`04:57.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`i had a batch file on windows that ran a ruby script to convert _'s to spaces in filenames and rename the files`
`04:57.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`batch file was the only way i could get it to work when dragging files onto it`
`04:59.21`	`Ackis`	`[21:53] <@Cairenn> +Ackis and bleeter, up a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g! <-- I rate that a 10!!!`
`04:59.30`	`bleeter`	`ScytheBlade1: yeah, I know ;)`
`04:59.31`	`Cairenn`	`so do I! ;)`
`04:59.39`	`ScytheBlade1`	`that is all I did`
`04:59.40`	`ScytheBlade1`	`and it worked`
`04:59.55`	`bleeter`	`ScytheBlade1: I been building previous to today without issue. Today.. bang :/`
`05:00.07`	`bleeter`	`maybe some update I've not relogged/etc. is causing issues :/`
`05:00.11`	`*** join/#wowuidev malreth (n=Adium@67.9.162.75)`
`05:00.54`	`Ackis`	`snogs bleeter.`
`05:01.03`	`bleeter`	`weirdo`
`05:01.04`	`Shirik`	`snogs?`
`05:01.34`	`Ackis`	`Shirik: term that the brits use and from SWG`
`05:01.38`	`Ackis`	`~dict snog`
`05:02.08`	`Dagmar`	`~dict spoon`
`05:02.26`	`Dagmar`	`Well, I guess it's a bit much to expect a bot to know about human mating rituals`
`05:03.10`	`bleeter`	`snog in enAU is not that =))`
`05:03.14`	`durcyn`	`~dict 11 spoon`
`05:03.26`	`DWSR`	`~urbandict spoon`
`05:03.27`	`DWSR`	`No?`
`05:05.19`	`bleeter`	`eh, wikitionary has enGB = enAU = enNZ`
`05:05.23`	`bleeter`	`once again enUS fails!`
`05:05.46`	`bleeter`	`https://secure.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/en/wiki/snog#Verb`
`05:05.50`	`DWSR`	`Why is there no enCA?`
`05:06.15`	`bleeter`	`there is, I just dunno if enCA = enGB or enUS with regards to 'snog'`
`05:06.22`	`bleeter`	`spose we should ask Cairenn ... she'd know all about that`
`05:06.33`	`DWSR`	`enCA =enUS in regards to snog.`
`05:06.40`	`Corrodias`	`what's the enGB version?`
`05:06.49`	`DWSR`	`snog is the enGB version.`
`05:06.50`	`Ackis`	`bleeter: you a canuck too?`
`05:06.55`	`bleeter`	`Corrodias: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/en/wiki/snog#Verb`
`05:06.56`	`DWSR`	`enUS is make out`
`05:06.57`	`Corrodias`	`eh what?`
`05:07.06`	`DWSR`	`is enCA Canadian English?`
`05:07.09`	`Corrodias`	`you could communicate better.`
`05:07.11`	`Cairenn`	`unh, given that Ackis is a Canuck, why are you asking me?`
`05:07.14`	`bleeter`	`Ackis: Tasmania`
`05:07.33`	`bleeter`	`Cairenn: I didn't know that :P`
`05:07.36`	`DWSR`	`hey, what about me? Am I just chopped liver?`
`05:07.39`	`Cairenn`	`now you do!`
`05:07.42`	`Cairenn`	`DWSR: yup`
`05:07.57`	`Cairenn`	`ask a silly question, get a silly answer ;)`
`05:07.59`	`DWSR`	`I HATE YOU`
`05:08.02`	`bleeter`	`RHUBARB!!!`
`05:08.05`	`Cairenn`	`cries`
`05:08.17`	`DWSR`	`Big girls don't cry.`
`05:08.24`	`Cairenn`	`cries`
`05:08.35`	`bleeter`	`you calling her fart?`
`05:08.37`	`bleeter`	`er .. fat`
`05:08.41`	`DWSR`	`she's crying.`
`05:08.42`	`bleeter`	`~failbleet`
`05:08.45`	`DWSR`	`Logicfail.`
`05:11.10`	`Adys`	`I was standing around five minutes over this`
`05:11.22`	`Adys`	`"just because your making since"`
`05:11.41`	`DWSR`	`btw.`
`05:11.44`	`DWSR`	`huggles Cairenn`
`05:11.46`	`Adys`	`and then i figured it was supposed to be "you're making sense"`
`05:11.49`	`Adys`	`which doesnt.`
`05:11.49`	`bleeter`	`Adys: it can be stab time now`
`05:11.53`	`Cairenn`	`huggles DWSR`
`05:11.57`	`DWSR`	`:D`
`05:12.03`	`DWSR`	`^_^ btw Cairenn`
`05:12.05`	`*** part/#wowuidev Seerah (n=Ryan@c-76-107-188-150.hsd1.tn.comcast.net)`
`05:12.08`	`Adys`	`youtube comments = brain poison`
`05:12.14`	`DWSR`	`Adys: No, they're trollbait.`
`05:12.23`	`DWSR`	`You ever been in a flame war over Youtube comments?`
`05:12.26`	`Cairenn`	`:)`
`05:12.29`	`DWSR`	`Most hilarious shit ever.`
`05:12.45`	`DWSR`	`I read my comments back to me before I post them, for added hilarity.`
`05:12.53`	`Adys`	`I'm not a complete retard I know what to avoid`
`05:13.08`	`bleeter`	`not complete, just a 'near total' ;)`
`05:13.17`	`Thunder_Child`	`that wasnt an xkcd comic or anything`
`05:13.17`	`Adys`	`i'd say about half-way personally`
`05:13.21`	`Adys`	`but hey`
`05:13.24`	`Adys`	`Thunder_Child: PA`
`05:13.31`	`Adys`	`or er`
`05:13.33`	`Adys`	`what do you mean?`
`05:13.33`	`Thunder_Child`	`it was also xkcd`
`05:13.38`	`Thunder_Child`	`let me find it`
`05:13.51`	`Thunder_Child`	`and i was talking about what DWSR said`
`05:13.52`	`Adys`	`the "comment read back to user" thing?`
`05:13.54`	`DWSR`	`Thunder_Child knows what I'm talking about.`
`05:13.56`	`DWSR`	`yes.`
`05:14.02`	`Adys`	`its a youtube feature`
`05:14.06`	`Adys`	`they added it because of the xkcd comic`
`05:14.18`	`DWSR`	`Adys: I thought it was the other way around?`
`05:14.21`	`Thunder_Child`	`really? i have never posted anything there....thats amazing`
`05:14.23`	`Adys`	`no :)`
`05:14.24`	`DWSR`	`I just turn on my TTS engine and browse the comment pages.`
`05:14.34`	`DWSR`	`Adys: Someone at Google obviously reads xkcd.`
`05:14.44`	`Adys`	`... most of google reads xkcd`
`05:14.46`	`bleeter`	`half the geeks on the planet read xkcd`
`05:14.55`	`bleeter`	`the other half get it posted to them`
`05:15.00`	`Adys`	`idd`
`05:15.00`	`Thunder_Child`	`and the other half arent proper geeks`
`05:15.03`	`Adys`	`lazy geeks`
`05:15.04`	`DWSR`	`Critical mission failure: You've been trolled.`
`05:15.07`	`DWSR`	`WEEE`
`05:15.17`	`Yssaril`	`http://xkcd.com/481/`
`05:15.49`	`DWSR`	`night all`
`05:16.56`	`Adys`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGAahDeceHI&feature=channel_page`
`05:18.24`	`bleeter`	`ScytheBlade1: build... odd. wonder why it built last 4 days... /shrug`
`05:20.52`	`bleeter`	`Adys: win`
`05:21.31`	`Ackis`	`must figure out how to make mirc not stupid`
`05:21.46`	`Ackis`	`what's the +/- stuff in front of text called?`
`05:21.50`	`Shirik`	`Ackis: http://nbs-irc.net`
`05:21.53`	`Dagmar`	`Crap?`
`05:22.01`	`Adys`	`Ackis: program files/mirc/uninstall.exe`
`05:22.07`	`Dagmar`	`Ackis: ADys has it`
`05:22.08`	`Shirik`	`Ackis: CAPAB IDENTIFYMSG`
`05:22.37`	`Shirik`	`I don't know of a way to turn it off, only on`
`05:23.07`	`Dagmar`	`I don't know that you can turn it on or off`
`05:23.18`	`Shirik`	`It's certainly not on by default`
`05:23.20`	`Shirik`	`because it would piss off a lot of clients`
`05:23.25`	`Shirik`	`And I know you can turn it on`
`05:23.43`	`Dagmar`	`it's on by default because it's just an otherwise unused numeric`
`05:23.50`	`Dagmar`	`... Shirik is identified to services`
`05:23.56`	`Shirik`	`that's not what it is`
`05:24.11`	`Dagmar`	`Only hideously deformed IRC clients get excited about unknown numerics`
`05:24.15`	`Shirik`	`It's not a numeric`
`05:24.22`	`Shirik`	`it's an addendum to PRIVMSG`
`05:24.26`	`Dagmar`	`Hm...`
`05:24.38`	`Shirik`	`It allows clients to know on each PRIVMSG whether or not the user that sent it is identified`
`05:25.00`	`Shirik`	`Shiibot uses it in its calculations for spam, for example`
`05:25.01`	`Dagmar`	`You sure that's not just a matter of the way it's formatting the userhost field?`
`05:25.06`	`Shirik`	`yes`
`05:25.07`	`Dagmar`	`I'm still digging`
`05:25.18`	`Shirik`	`look at shiibot's log files`
`05:25.40`	`Ackis`	`Shirik: I'm confused about the nbs-irc.net thing what's that?`
`05:25.41`	`Shirik`	`:Shirik!i=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik PRIVMSG #wowuidev :+yes`
`05:25.50`	`Dagmar`	`Ah okay`
`05:25.55`	`Shirik`	`The + sign following the : allows me to identify that the user is authenticated`
`05:26.04`	`Shirik`	`this feature has to be requested by the client, though`
`05:26.13`	`Shirik`	`Ackis: It is win`
`05:26.21`	`Dagmar`	`I wonder why they did it that way`
`05:26.29`	`Dagmar`	`They could have prepended that to userhost`
`05:27.10`	`Dagmar`	`Shirik!+i=mpdelbuo@blahblah would have done the trick without breaking anything I can think of`
`05:27.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`because you can identify after youve already joined a channel, changing userhost after joining a channel is bad although i think freenode might do it anyway`
`05:27.30`	`Dagmar`	`It does`
`05:28.01`	`Dagmar`	`There's always that wonderful race when you have an rc script that spews the nickserv command and then the join commands at the same time`
`05:28.01`	`Shirik`	`if you unidentify, however, it doesn't change your host back`
`05:28.08`	`Shirik`	`though I guess there's the "they could though"`
`05:28.46`	`Shirik`	`Dagmar: Tell your client to authenticate with PASS instead of nickserv`
`05:29.07`	`Dagmar`	`It's doing /quote ns blahblah`
`05:29.22`	`Shirik`	`tell it to authenticate with server password instead`
`05:29.25`	`Relcuse`	`is it possible to do a reverse ipairs(t)?`
`05:29.38`	`Shirik`	`for i = #t, 1 do ... end ?`
`05:29.39`	`Dagmar`	`Server password?`
`05:29.54`	`Relcuse`	`=o oh yeah, doh! thanks Shirik`
`05:30.00`	`Shirik`	`oops`
`05:30.05`	`Shirik`	`don't forget to do`
`05:30.08`	`Shirik`	`i = #t, 1, -1`
`05:30.08`	`Relcuse`	`-1`
`05:30.10`	`Relcuse`	`yeah :)`
`05:30.38`	`Shirik`	`Dagmar: Any decent client will allow you to specify a server password which is part of the handshake process`
`05:30.44`	`Shirik`	`NICK, PASS, USER`
`05:30.44`	`Relcuse`	`needs to make another pot of coffee, obviously`
`05:30.49`	`Shirik`	`Though 99% of users skip "PASS"`
`05:31.14`	`Shirik`	`It's generally used for ircops, but freenode allows you to authenticate with nickserv that way`
`05:31.25`	`Dagmar`	`Ahh...`
`05:31.26`	`Shirik`	`in fact, they prefer you do it that way`
`05:31.32`	`Dagmar`	`I didn't realize you were talkign about that command`
`05:31.40`	`Dagmar`	`I've never been an ircop so I've never bothered to use it`
`05:31.46`	`Dagmar`	`Well, never um, officially`
`05:32.15`	`bleeter`	`Relcuse: make me one as well! :)`
`05:32.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`the /oper command takes a password which is how most ircops go +o, server pass is just for private servers`
`05:32.52`	`Dagmar`	`Seems like it would still race`
`05:33.13`	`Shirik`	`it won't`
`05:33.20`	`Shirik`	`because it's applied before you're even finished connnecting`
`05:33.55`	`Ackis`	`Shirik: I installed that script thingy... everything is whacked lol`
`05:34.03`	`Shirik`	`define whacked`
`05:34.17`	`Ackis`	`mirc looks different, I still see that damn + as well`
`05:34.23`	`Ackis`	`my server list, etc was lost`
`05:34.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`are you connecting through a bouncer?`
`05:34.48`	`Shirik`	`lol wtf did you do Ackis`
`05:34.52`	`Shirik`	`and yes, it's supposed to look different`
`05:34.57`	`Shirik`	`it's supposed to not look like shit`
`05:35.07`	`Ackis`	`white text on black, not sure if I like it`
`05:35.09`	`Dagmar`	`You know there's an x-chat for win32`
`05:35.13`	`Ackis`	`I also upgrade mirc to the newest one`
`05:35.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`Ackis: just uninstall that crap, shirik is the only person that uses it`
`05:35.28`	`Dagmar`	`I fear for what's been done to the interface since I last used it, but it should still be around`
`05:35.32`	`Ackis`	`I thought it'd get rid of my +'s lol`
`05:36.21`	`Shirik`	`Ackis`
`05:36.23`	`Shirik`	`There's a bunch of themes`
`05:36.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`Ackis: you shouldnt even have them in the first place, they only show up if you send the server a command to enable them`
`05:36.34`	`Shirik`	`Hit F2`
`05:36.36`	`Ackis`	`it gives me a highlights window`
`05:36.42`	`Ackis`	`Arrowmaster: I'm connected via kaelten's znc`
`05:36.50`	`Shirik`	`Ok, so he probably has that enabled`
`05:36.51`	`Shirik`	`that's why`
`05:37.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`Ackis: yeah dont`
`05:37.23`	`Ackis`	`so I blame Kaelten wicked lol`
`05:38.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`youve been getting those +'s since wednesday?`
`05:38.48`	`Ackis`	`and I guess this script assumes I use winamp eh?`
`05:39.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`Ackis: that script assumes a lot of things that will be wrong`
`05:39.07`	`Ackis`	`Arrowmaster: been getting them since I started with the znc, I just didn't use IRC at home all that much`
`05:39.37`	`Shirik`	`I wonder why he uses them`
`05:39.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`then ZNC must be enabling it, otherwise you could have connected to the ZNC with a client that supports CAPAB and it enabled it`
`05:41.10`	`Ackis`	`second is probable`
`05:41.50`	`Ackis`	`brb getting rid of that script, I'm getting [23:37:57] * [notice from Ackis]: +lag437289 301485719 way too often`
`05:41.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`force the ZNC to reconnect to freenode`
`05:42.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`Ackis: told you it was shit`
`05:43.08`	`Ackis`	`whee`
`05:43.23`	`Shirik`	`lol Ackis`
`05:43.31`	`Shirik`	`Yeah, that's it getting confused by that identifymsg`
`05:43.33`	`Shirik`	`I forgot about that`
`05:43.39`	`Ackis`	`with znc you never know when I'm around or not`
`05:43.40`	`Shirik`	`Because it sends out pings to itself`
`05:43.44`	`Shirik`	`Ackis: Yes I do`
`05:43.44`	`Ackis`	`muahha`
`05:43.48`	`Ackis`	`oh`
`05:43.52`	`Ackis`	`:(`
`05:43.54`	`Shirik`	`you're here right now`
`05:43.56`	`Shirik`	`see`
`05:43.58`	`Shirik`	`I know`
`05:43.59`	`Ackis`	`hehe`
`05:43.59`	`Dagmar`	`Pings shouldn't reset the idle timer`
`05:44.00`	`Ackis`	`:P`
`05:44.28`	`Dagmar`	`Then and again, most ircops seem to have strong objections to self-pings`
`05:44.34`	`Dagmar`	`...not that I blame 'em`
`05:49.44`	`ScytheBlade1`	`bah. Anyone have a character on Doomhammer?`
`05:49.54`	`ScytheBlade1`	`(US)`
`05:50.52`	`Ackis`	`sighs`
`05:51.05`	`Ackis`	`why are they working on an expansion when you can't even zone into an instance?`
`05:51.15`	`Adys`	`because`
`05:51.16`	`Adys`	`its`
`05:51.18`	`Adys`	`not the same`
`05:51.19`	`Adys`	`fucking`
`05:51.21`	`Adys`	`TEAMS working on it`
`05:51.29`	`Ackis`	`that was sarcasm adys`
`05:51.41`	`Adys`	`that was a serious answer`
`05:51.43`	`Ackis`	`and as of right now there's been no evidence that they're working on the instance issue :P`
`05:51.53`	`Dagmar`	`I thought that sounded like a typically uninspired forum troll`
`05:51.54`	`ScytheBlade1`	`... yes there is`
`05:51.55`	`ScytheBlade1`	`l2forums`
`05:52.18`	`ScytheBlade1`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19109959718&sid=1`
`05:52.27`	`Ackis`	`I can post on the forums that I'm God, doesn't make it so... there's just been talk, talk and talk and no action =/`
`05:52.34`	`ScytheBlade1`	`read that thread`
`05:52.39`	`Ackis`	`I will`
`05:52.47`	`Ackis`	`can't click the link since it has a + in front of it :(`
`05:52.53`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`05:53.07`	`Shirik`	`Ackis, there's an obvious solution`
`05:53.59`	`Ackis`	`oh shiny, I didn't actually see that post, I stand corrected and ashamed :P (but I got a reaction out of adys so it was worth it)`
`05:54.11`	`Ackis`	`Shirik: I'm not listening to you, you made me install that script :P`
`05:54.13`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Check the date on it too ;)`
`05:54.23`	`Shirik`	`http://www.krs.ca/freenode/`
`05:54.46`	`Ackis`	`ScytheBlade1: 8/14 and 8/26 so recently`
`05:54.53`	`Ackis`	`more links I have to copy and paste`
`05:55.13`	`Adys`	`its not a reaction its a fucking macro`
`05:55.28`	`Ackis`	`rofl you have that macroed?`
`05:55.37`	`bleeter`	`haha http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19595430118&sid=1#6 win`
`05:56.14`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Anyone have a second to make an alliance character on doomhammer and whisper someone for me?`
`05:56.17`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Trial accounts -suck-`
`05:56.28`	`Ackis`	`ScytheBlade1 sure`
`05:56.37`	`ScytheBlade1`	`<3`
`05:56.40`	`bleeter`	`Ackis: gee thx i was gunna demand $$`
`05:56.44`	`bleeter`	`with menaces`
`05:56.44`	`Ackis`	`since they aren't fixing the instance thing instead are working on a new expansion! ;)`
`05:56.45`	`bleeter`	`:(`
`05:56.49`	`Shirik`	`ScytheBlade1: Why do you need someone to whisper?`
`05:56.59`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Friend/message Hatejolien in-game when you can (it's me)`
`05:57.06`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Because I'm on a trial account which cannot do anything`
`05:57.20`	`ScytheBlade1`	`whisper, use channels, mail, calender invites, group invites`
`05:57.22`	`ScytheBlade1`	`all restricted`
`05:57.41`	`Ackis`	`but I like Jolien :(`
`05:57.50`	`ScytheBlade1`	`He's the guy who bot me a gamecard`
`05:57.51`	`ScytheBlade1`	`The prick`
`05:57.53`	`Shirik`	`until you get a whisper?`
`05:58.00`	`bleeter`	`ScytheBlade1: do what all the gold sellers do`
`05:58.09`	`bleeter`	`ScytheBlade1: run up along side and /say and/or /yell!`
`05:58.10`	`bleeter`	`ffs`
`05:58.11`	`bleeter`	`noob`
`05:58.12`	`bleeter`	`:P`
`05:59.55`	`Ackis`	`brb installing another one of Shirik's scripts`
`06:00.27`	`Shirik`	`this should be amusing`
`06:01.51`	`Shirik`	`ScytheBlade1 :(`
`06:01.54`	`Shirik`	`I hate that bug`
`06:01.56`	`Ackis`	`whee`
`06:01.57`	`Ackis`	`omg`
`06:01.57`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`06:02.00`	`Ackis`	`no more +`
`06:02.02`	`Ackis`	`or -`
`06:02.03`	`Ackis`	`someone emote`
`06:02.09`	`Shirik`	`destroys Ackis`
`06:02.12`	`Ackis`	`yayayayay`
`06:02.15`	`Ackis`	`~shirik++`
`06:02.21`	`Ackis`	`I will be your love banana`
`06:02.27`	`Shirik`	`oh o.o`
`06:02.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`i dont think emotes get the +/-`
`06:03.12`	`Ackis`	`emotes got "ACTION destroys Ackis"`
`06:03.37`	`Shirik`	`Ackis: It's not really that they're "gone"`
`06:03.38`	`bleeter`	`hah`
`06:03.42`	`Shirik`	`you just now have a script that knows how to parse it`
`06:03.51`	`Ackis`	`nod that's all that matters`
`06:03.59`	`Shirik`	`So now if you see big red names`
`06:04.04`	`Shirik`	`like these`
`06:04.10`	`Shirik`	`that's why`
`06:04.21`	`Ackis`	`yah no idea why you're red there`
`06:04.25`	`Shirik`	`because I logged out`
`06:04.27`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Ackis: moar info on KRT`
`06:04.48`	`Ackis`	`ah so red is unregistered`
`06:04.49`	`Ackis`	`KRT?`
`06:05.18`	`ScytheBlade1`	`wait, who was it who made a char on doomhammer for me?`
`06:05.27`	`Ackis`	`some monkey`
`06:05.33`	`ScytheBlade1`	`what is KRT :P`
`06:05.40`	`Shirik`	`(01:56:28) (Ackis) ScytheBlade1 sure`
`06:05.43`	`Shirik`	`Obviously him`
`06:05.50`	`Ackis`	`I made a toon called immamonkey`
`06:06.05`	`Ackis`	`hence my banana reference for Shiibot`
`06:06.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`hrm`
`06:06.13`	`Ackis`	`*shirik`
`06:11.15`	`Shirik`	`hey kd3, what's KRT?`
`06:11.25`	`ScytheBlade1`	`..................`
`06:11.33`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I hate you Shirik`
`06:11.41`	`Shirik`	`That was way too much fun to pass up`
`06:11.48`	`Shirik`	`I gave you a HUGE hint and you totally ignored it ok?`
`06:11.52`	`ScytheBlade1`	`K?`
`06:11.55`	`ScytheBlade1`	`'k' is useless`
`06:11.56`	`Shirik`	`(02:01:51) (@Shirik) ScytheBlade1 :(`
`06:11.56`	`Shirik`	`(02:01:54) (@Shirik) I hate that bug`
`06:12.22`	`Shirik`	`after that it took a lot of strength to hold back`
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`06:12.46`	`Shirik`	`plus, the K is so obvious. It's my main character.`
`06:12.51`	`Shirik`	`Not my fault you don't know enough about me`
`06:13.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`....`
`06:13.27`	`Shirik`	`besides`
`06:13.29`	`Shirik`	`seriously`
`06:13.34`	`Shirik`	`who talks with perfect punctuation all the time`
`06:14.18`	`Shirik`	`amirite?`
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`06:25.28`	`Shirik`	`Huh`
`06:25.37`	`bleeter`	`wut`
`06:26.11`	`Shirik`	`I didn't realize the C standard explicitly says that defining the macro __cplusplus is not to be done`
`06:26.21`	`Shirik`	`kinda strange having a C standard to interoperate with C++`
`06:27.21`	`Dagmar`	`I always interpreted it as denial.`
`06:27.52`	`Shirik`	`"C++ doesn't exist"?`
`06:28.00`	`Dagmar`	`Yeah`
`06:28.15`	`Dagmar`	`THat and there used to be a bit of hostility on usenet towards c++ coders`
`06:28.21`	`Dagmar`	`"C IS FINE AND YOU SUCK"`
`06:29.04`	`Dagmar`	`"If you'd learn to count you wouldn't need a specific library for strings"`
`06:29.06`	`Dagmar`	`Stuff like that`
`06:29.12`	`Shirik`	`lol`
`06:29.19`	`Shirik`	`I still don't use std::string`
`06:29.37`	`Shirik`	`Then again, I also turn off all those warnings that say things like "lolol strcat is unsafe!"`
`06:29.44`	`Dagmar`	`With locales in the picture, I'll take as much abstraction as I can get`
`06:29.46`	`Shirik`	`and I'm like "no, morons using strcat are unsafe"`
`06:30.18`	`Shirik`	`strcat is a perfectly safe function to use if you know wtf you're doing`
`06:30.23`	`Shirik`	`same with sprintf and the like`
`06:30.33`	`Dagmar`	`I.e., if you know how to count`
`06:30.48`	`Dagmar`	`...and then there were debacles like Sun's strncpy`
`06:31.17`	`Shirik`	`but no, these days you can't even compile Lua without getting Visual Studio to spit out 5 million "OMG DEPRECATED CALL" warnings at you`
`06:32.35`	`zenzelezz`	`#pragma warning(disable : ...) ?`
`06:33.44`	`Shirik`	`Can't do that`
`06:33.56`	`Shirik`	`Because you have to disable it before it's defined`
`06:34.16`	`Shirik`	`But, they do give you a preprocessor define you can add`
`06:34.21`	`Shirik`	`But it's just annoying`
`06:34.34`	`Shirik`	`Microsoft sending down these policies as word of god, making people blindly follow them without thinking`
`06:36.31`	`Dagmar`	`Yeah well, the alternative is more "microsoft coders"`
`06:36.55`	`Dagmar`	`You know, the ones who wail "but fixing my buggy as hell app will require rewriting all the stupidly broken things I coded into it while I was high at work"`
`06:37.11`	`Dagmar`	`"the compiler never told me what I was doing was wrong! I'm not at fault for sucking!"`
`06:39.51`	`Fisker`	`slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout`
`06:39.59`	`Fisker`	`mentlegen`
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`06:42.47`	`Ackis`	`eh where are highlights in mirc again Shirik?`
`06:42.54`	`Shirik`	`that's nbs-irc`
`06:42.56`	`Shirik`	`you got rid of it`
`06:42.58`	`Shirik`	`so GTFO`
`06:43.11`	`Shirik`	`if you want crappy highlights, file->options`
`06:43.20`	`Shirik`	`sorry, tools->options`
`06:44.25`	`Thunder_Child`	`nns > nbs`
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`06:46.30`	`bleeter`	`irssi > *`
`06:47.01`	`Thunder_Child`	`* = "Crap, but only slightly"`
`06:48.14`	`Ackis`	`I paid for mirc so I'm gonna use it til I die! :P`
`06:48.58`	`Ackis`	`gf: "So hun, when can I change my facebook status to engaged?" me: fuck you`
`06:49.32`	`Thunder_Child`	`lol, Facebook > Ring?`
`06:50.16`	`Ackis`	`she has a "promise ring" already`
`06:50.26`	`Fisker`	`RAGE`
`06:51.07`	`Ackis`	`is x-perl different than perl?`
`06:52.24`	`Shadowed`	`my understanding is perl was first, then x-perl was supposed to be the "new" perl Ackis`
`06:52.50`	`Ackis`	`you solved my issue in wowace my friend`
`06:52.56`	`Shadowed`	`oh`
`06:53.34`	`Ackis`	`forget that the search is limited by site on default`
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`06:55.40`	`Thunder_Child`	`is unamused`
`06:57.14`	`Ackis`	`:(`
`06:58.02`	`Shirik`	`Fisker`
`06:58.11`	`Shirik`	`I challenge you to a rage contest`
`06:58.35`	`Thunder_Child`	`Shirik, you lost before it even starts`
`07:02.34`	`Fisker`	`slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout`
`07:02.37`	`Fisker`	`yes`
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`07:23.26`	`bleeter`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`07:30.19`	`Esamynn`	`~lart Fisker`
`07:30.19`	`purl`	`pries Fisker's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to Fisker`
`07:34.33`	`Fisker`	`slaps Esamynn around a bit with a large trout`
`07:34.54`	`Esamynn`	`Fisker: oh come on, you know you deserved it :P`
`07:35.57`	`Fisker`	`did not`
`07:37.00`	`Esamynn`	`pfft`
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`08:04.08`	`industrial`	`oh come on now nature, that's not funny`
`08:04.10`	`industrial`	`http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/bug.jpg`
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`08:06.43`	`Mr_Rabies`	`house centipedes are horrifying`
`08:13.01`	`batrick`	`agreag`
`08:13.36`	`batrick`	`err, agreed*`
`08:23.05`	`Antiarc`	`HAHAHAHAHA`
`08:23.06`	`Antiarc`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19595260317&sid=1`
`08:23.10`	`Antiarc`	`This is the best thread ever.`
`08:23.59`	`Grum`	`Antiarc! git for Chatter? :P`
`08:24.12`	`Antiarc`	`What would I need to do? Not a manual export/import, I hope`
`08:24.24`	`Antiarc`	`If it's a switch-flip, I can do it. Else, I probably don't have time right now :x`
`08:25.29`	`Grum`	`well, erm packager has to be turned of, git repo has to be created, we have to push all the data over (which i've already prepared -- see http://dl.dwim.org/~ebroes/Chatter.tar.gz ) and turn the packager back on`
`08:26.19`	`Antiarc`	`That doesn't preserve commit history though, I presume?`
`08:26.32`	`Antiarc`	`(which...I don't like)`
`08:26.50`	`Corrodias`	`i have fallen in love with the macro poster, Antiarc`
`08:26.56`	`Corrodias`	`can i gay marry his character?`
`08:27.09`	`Antiarc`	`Corrodias: Indeed. Pretty sure he'll eat a forum ban for it, but if you're going to go, that's the best way to go.`
`08:27.10`	`Grum`	`it does`
`08:27.14`	`Grum`	`i've converted the complete repo`
`08:27.18`	`Grum`	`just check the tar.gz`
`08:27.20`	`Antiarc`	`Oh, sweet`
`08:27.28`	`Antiarc`	`Well, if you want to do it, go ahead :)`
`08:27.31`	`Grum`	`i cant`
`08:27.33`	`Grum`	`that's the problem`
`08:27.35`	`Antiarc`	`Oh, I have to?`
`08:27.38`	`Grum`	`only the manager can toggle the buttons`
`08:27.46`	`Antiarc`	`Can I appoint you manager for the switch?`
`08:27.47`	`Grum`	`(create git repo/turn on+off packager`
`08:27.52`	`Grum`	`hmmm yeah probably`
`08:27.58`	`Grum`	`not 100% sure though`
`08:28.34`	`Grum`	`i just wanted your 'ok' on it, arrowmaster/nevcairiel already offered to press the buttons for you ;D`
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`08:29.10`	`Antiarc`	`Oh, that's fine then`
`08:29.12`	`Antiarc`	`Yeah, a-ok given`
`08:29.18`	`Antiarc`	`As long as it preserves commit history I'm cool with it`
`08:29.20`	`Grum`	`could you see if you could give me the button-press-right?`
`08:29.28`	`Antiarc`	`I'm looking, doesn't look like I can`
`08:29.34`	`Antiarc`	`I can assign any role but manager, it seems`
`08:29.44`	`Grum`	`ah k`
`08:30.23`	`Fisker`	`comedy gold Antiarc`
`08:30.24`	`Grum`	`i should be able to push the data in seconds btw`
`08:30.50`	`Grum`	`i just need to add the url to push to which would appear when you say we're using a gitrepo for the project`
`08:30.54`	`Fisker`	`not as good as ClosetGnome_HighestItemLevel though`
`08:33.20`	`Grum`	`Antiarc: i'm ready if you have 5 mins more time :)`
`08:33.29`	`Antiarc`	`Sure, what do you need?`
`08:33.30`	`Arrowmaster`	`Antiarc: give him maintainer`
`08:33.53`	`Grum`	`oh! maintainer != manager?`
`08:34.00`	`Antiarc`	`Maintainer added`
`08:34.09`	`Grum`	`ah lets see what i can do now then :)`
`08:34.52`	`Grum`	`mm where should the extra stuff be? under Project Management?`
`08:34.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`edit repo`
`08:35.14`	`Grum`	`ah repository -> edit stuff kk`
`08:35.30`	`Grum`	`mmm`
`08:35.43`	`Grum`	`i just have view packager status/tag repo/edit default relationships`
`08:35.44`	`Grum`	`nothing more`
`08:36.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`you cant edit the repo?`
`08:36.19`	`Grum`	`nope`
`08:36.36`	`Grum`	`i just relogged to be sure, but there is no edit repo under either files or repository`
`08:37.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh, seems maintainer cant do that`
`08:37.15`	`Grum`	`yeah`
`08:37.21`	`Grum`	`does anyone mind flicking the switch? :)`
`08:37.41`	`Antiarc`	`switch flicking is a-ok'd`
`08:38.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`fine ill do it`
`08:38.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`git repo with no packaging`
`08:39.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`irc reporting disabled too`
`08:39.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`since its still always 1 line per tag`
`08:39.43`	`Grum`	`k, there is no tags in the whole repo so it appeared btw`
`08:39.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`there should be`
`08:40.11`	`Grum`	`and it should be done`
`08:40.16`	`Grum`	`just doing a test clone`
`08:40.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`check the branches`
`08:40.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`tags show up as branches when you convert an svn repo to git i think`
`08:41.01`	`Grum`	`no they dont when i do it ;)`
`08:41.13`	`Grum`	`anyhow, it looks sane`
`08:41.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`why did you ignore the tags then?`
`08:41.22`	`Grum`	`there were no tags`
`08:41.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`there were no svn tags at all ever?`
`08:41.50`	`Grum`	`aye`
`08:42.14`	`Antiarc`	`I am cackling at this forum thread`
`08:42.19`	`Antiarc`	`It fills my heart with joy and glee to see text spammers get what they deserve`
`08:42.33`	`Grum`	`url?`
`08:42.45`	`Antiarc`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19595260317&sid=1`
`08:43.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`how the hell did chatter get by without any tags?`
`08:43.25`	`Antiarc`	`The guy that wrote it is a noob`
`08:43.27`	`Antiarc`	`Would be my guess`
`08:43.32`	`Antiarc`	`I'm actually horrible about tagging :P`
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`08:43.48`	`Grum`	`you can 'tag' files as releases`
`08:43.52`	`Grum`	`from the gui`
`08:43.56`	`Grum`	`on the wowace site :)`
`08:43.59`	`Antiarc`	`Which is what I do`
`08:44.03`	`Grum`	`indeed :)`
`08:44.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`wow you are as bad as me`
`08:44.14`	`Grum`	`did you turn on the packager Arrow?`
`08:44.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`not yet`
`08:44.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`want me to?`
`08:44.40`	`Grum`	`yes`
`08:44.45`	`Grum`	`i'm already done for 10 mins orso hehe`
`08:44.54`	`Grum`	`i just had to do git push origin master :)`
`08:46.39`	`Grum`	`mm i wonder if i have to do a dummy commit to make it pack`
`08:46.40`	`Fisker`	`you have my sword Antiarc`
`08:47.27`	`Grum`	`that is one epic macro LOL :D`
`08:50.06`	`Grum`	`Arrowmaster; did you turn on the packager?`
`08:50.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`yes`
`08:50.33`	`Grum`	`k time for a dummy commit then`
`08:52.17`	`Grum`	`and now we wait :P`
`08:53.12`	`mikma`	`http://kuvaton.com/bshit/noblesse-oblige.jpg`
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`08:54.28`	`Dagmar`	`Antiarc: I like how no GM has stepped in to remove that obviously malicious code`
`08:54.37`	`Antiarc`	`Dagmar: They're all probably asleep`
`08:54.50`	`Antiarc`	`I suspect the poster will eat a forum ban tomorrow`
`08:55.02`	`Dagmar`	`I like to think they're all seeing it and saying "F**k that guy asking about spam macros"`
`08:55.15`	`Antiarc`	`I do too, secretly.`
`08:55.53`	`Dagmar`	`I was looking at it trying to figure out how it could possibly help and then saw "OnUpdate",TakeScreenshot`
`08:56.02`	`Dagmar`	`Then I knew it was a thing of beauty`
`08:56.51`	`Antiarc`	`Pretty much.`
`08:57.28`	`Antiarc`	`I like the "innocent bystander" who decided to run a random macro to help with ASCII macros when they weren't really going to use ASCII macros and the original poster is so mean, QQ, QQ.`
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`09:08.31`	`Grum`	`Antiarc: how did you go by solving the blizz name coloring?`
`09:08.43`	`Antiarc`	`I haven't yet. Heh.`
`09:08.44`	`Grum`	`because my solution ends up breaking the altnames module coloring badly :)`
`09:08.57`	`Antiarc`	`Yeah, a lot of stuff is going to need to be refactored`
`09:10.32`	`Grum`	`well i dropped the metatable because i needed more context`
`09:10.41`	`Grum`	`mostly to recognize already colored names by blizzard`
`09:11.21`	`Grum`	`blizzard coloring is nice but it only colors on CHAT_MSG* events`
`09:11.45`	`Grum`	`which makes it not color /who results and people coming online etc`
`09:13.52`	`Grum`	`but altnames uses it as well`
`09:17.31`	`Grum`	`btw Arrowmaster, thanks a lot for the button pressing, much appreciated :)`
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`09:27.01`	`mikma`	`http://www.riemurasia.net/jylppy/media.php?id=65103`
`09:28.09`	`industrial`	`ok so`
`09:28.14`	`industrial`	`call of duty 4`
`09:28.21`	`industrial`	`I hate their website`
`09:28.25`	`industrial`	`it doent make sense`
`09:28.39`	`industrial`	`be part of the action ! BUY NOW!`
`09:28.52`	`industrial`	`actually it does make sense, it wasn't made to actually be informative`
`09:29.23`	`industrial`	`so, where do I get the patches now? random filefront results from google obviously isn't what I'm looking for :\|`
`09:30.22`	`industrial`	`http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=call+of+duty+4+patch&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g-s10`
`09:30.30`	`industrial`	`look at it, this is the internet today, horrible.`
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`09:36.40`	`batrick`	`I wonder when gmail will increase the mailbox size`
`09:36.49`	`batrick`	`it's been sitting at 7 gigs for a while now`
`09:41.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`its great to have a laptop sitting next to me, X just crashed so i just sshed in from the laptop, killed X, restarted gdm and im back without having to reboot`
`09:45.40`	`zenzelezz`	`http://punditkitchen.com/2009/08/28/political-pictures-adolph-hitler-bush-obama/`
`09:49.27`	`mikma`	`http://www.riemurasia.net/jylppy/media.php?id=64910`
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`10:42.02`	`foxlit`	`So, predictions on when 3.2.2 hits`
`10:42.28`	`nevcairiel`	`before christmas`
`10:42.30`	`zenzelezz`	`sometime this year`
`10:42.45`	`foxlit`	`Have you no courage? :)`
`10:42.54`	`nevcairiel`	`I just don't care anymore :P`
`10:43.00`	`zenzelezz`	`definitely sometime this year`
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`10:44.52`	`foxlit`	`I'm thinking that'll be the patch when they fix SABT.`
`10:45.13`	`foxlit`	`Which means it's also time to hatch a new evil plan.`
`10:46.01`	`zenzelezz`	`I find your use of the word "hatch" in the context of 3.2.2 amusing`
`10:46.05`	`zenzelezz`	`WHELPS LEFT SIDE`
`10:47.44`	`Cairenn`	`MORE DOTS`
`10:48.15`	`foxlit`	`I see no possible way this could go wrong.`
`10:48.26`	`zenzelezz`	`SHADOW WORD PAIN, uh... WARLOCK CURSES`
`10:48.27`	`Cairenn`	`fuck!`
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`11:59.29`	`bleeter`	`Cairenn: just in case you missed it... http://is.gd/2Hs1c ;)`
`11:59.54`	`bleeter`	`I just tweeted it in case you 'n everyone else did, or in case I'm late.. or sumfin`
`12:01.49`	`Hz0`	`hi, im not sure if anyone is up. i have a quick question. are there any vars for self target? to get my own nick? lets say if i got a debuff for ex.`
`12:02.17`	`zenzelezz`	`you mean you want to find the name of the player?`
`12:02.31`	`Pneumatus`	`UnitName("player"), for example?`
`12:02.40`	`zenzelezz`	`damnit, I was building up to that`
`12:02.45`	`zenzelezz`	`you totally stole my thunder`
`12:02.57`	`Pneumatus`	`sorry rachel`
`12:02.58`	`Hz0`	`no no, i want an output of my own player`
`12:03.02`	`Pneumatus`	`er, monica`
`12:03.09`	`Hz0`	`playername*`
`12:03.10`	`zenzelezz`	`Pneumatus++ for recognizing it`
`12:03.33`	`zenzelezz`	`Hz0: UnitName("player") does give you your own name`
`12:03.37`	`Pneumatus`	`"player" is YOUR player's unitid`
`12:03.49`	`bleeter`	`Hz0: have you read the API for UnitName?`
`12:04.16`	`Hz0`	`not yet, just starting actually`
`12:04.47`	`zenzelezz`	`you should read up about unitIds then =)`
`12:04.56`	`Hz0`	`yea seems so`
`12:05.25`	`zenzelezz`	`http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_types <-- bottom of the page`
`12:05.55`	`Hz0`	`ty`
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`12:22.16`	`industrial`	`I don't like that all L80 raids have items for everyone`
`12:22.29`	`industrial`	`sounds a bit weird but there was a time paladins and shamans wore the same stuff`
`12:22.54`	`industrial`	`item names don't even matter anymore, I don't know the name of my gear`
`12:23.12`	`industrial`	`its just the armor penetration piece from dungeon x`
`12:23.15`	`industrial`	`for slot y`
`12:26.54`	`zenzelezz`	`dons his Helmet of Hypocrisy, Sleeves of Senseless Violence, Burden of Competence`
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`12:31.42`	`Mikk`	`http://www.unmotivating.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=6131 <- muaha`
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`12:45.09`	`industrial`	`zenzelezz: lol, burden of competence :p`
`12:45.32`	`zenzelezz`	`industrial: http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=244718`
`12:47.15`	`industrial`	`hi2u stats o_O`
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`12:47.33`	`zenzelezz`	`was dropped by the end boss of the first expansion`
`12:48.24`	`industrial`	`I heard AO is going to get a new engine, that's attractive to play a froob account with :p`
`12:48.44`	`zenzelezz`	`heard something about that... will have to have a look at least when they do`
`12:48.52`	`zenzelezz`	`though the game mechanics I assume will still be much the same`
`12:50.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm i wonder if i still have my fixxer`
`12:51.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`last time i played AO i made a couple million credits before level 40, was thinking about buying a yalm`
`12:51.46`	`zenzelezz`	`"[OT OOC 100+] ...: 4.7M YALM IN BOREALIS FT"`
`12:52.15`	`industrial`	`I played it for a little while, didnt really know what to do after the starting island :\`
`12:53.02`	`zenzelezz`	`that was one of the big problems with AO, it was kind of a "go on, make your own fun" game`
`12:53.11`	`zenzelezz`	`they improved it, but it still felt like that to me`
`12:53.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`i got a ot fixxer to lvl 60 or so back when AO first did the free basic accounts thing`
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`12:54.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`few years later i went back for a little while, decided to delete my fixxer and make a neutral one since it had been so long i didnt really remember how to play it well`
`12:55.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`ended up making atleast 20x as much credits as my original fixxer before getting to lvl 40, but then i think TBC came out and i stopped playing AO again`
`12:56.14`	`industrial`	`I understand that the rest of the leveling process (to 200....) involves lots of randomly generated missions >_>`
`12:56.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`how do you think i made all that money?`
`12:56.42`	`zenzelezz`	`industrial: only if you don't want to grind randomly around the world for months on end`
`12:56.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`blitzing randomly generated missions for certain items that are known to sell for lots`
`12:57.11`	`zenzelezz`	`actually, if you have the Shadowlands expansion then the leveling process is quicker; not sure if they made any more improvements since that`
`12:57.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`i must have farmed atleast 50 lvl 22 med rifles that sold for 250k-500k each`
`12:58.20`	`zenzelezz`	`WTS Concrete Cusionx2 300k PST`
`12:58.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`i could never sell those things`
`12:58.44`	`zenzelezz`	`took a little patience`
`12:58.51`	`zenzelezz`	`was easier selling Omni-Med suits to clanners`
`12:58.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`med rifles were my ticket`
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`12:59.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`after a while it got harder to sell them but then i found somebody that wanted as many as i could get in bulk so he could resell them later`
`13:00.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`resell them with med suits and other stuff as a pack`
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`13:03.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`9am, i better goto sleep i need to start getting up earlier, ive got a class that starts at noon this semester`
`13:03.36`	`industrial`	`heh, I've got my first day tomorrow`
`13:03.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`i still have another week i think`
`13:04.04`	`industrial`	`I'm trying to organize my school webmail, find out where/when I have my classes and put it all in google calendar etc`
`13:04.10`	`industrial`	`today`
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`13:38.19`	`Hz0`	`In wow when u push alt+thespell u want to cast, u cast the spell on yourself does it count as self targetting urself from the code pov?`
`13:38.38`	`zenzelezz`	`no`
`13:38.55`	`zenzelezz`	`assuming you mean that your target changes to yourself, it does not mean that`
`13:39.39`	`Hz0`	`yes that's what i meant, trying to see if there's a function in the api for that`
`13:39.58`	`Hz0`	`or is that just a default keybind?`
`13:40.14`	`zenzelezz`	`you can change the key somewhere in the options`
`13:40.36`	`zenzelezz`	`it's in theory the same as doing /cast [target=player] Spell Name`
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`16:08.43`	`Grum`	`Anyone in here running a frFR wow? if so what is the name of the trade channel? :)`
`16:11.45`	`Kalroth`	`http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/chatauctions.html`
`16:11.50`	`Kalroth`	`http://www.wow-europe.com/fr/info/basics/chatauctions.html`
`16:12.17`	`Kalroth`	`canal de commerce!`
`16:12.35`	`Grum`	`i need the actually name from ingame`
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`16:27.23`	`foxlit`	`You don't want to localize it.`
`16:27.32`	`foxlit`	`It's the only channel you're allowed to link stuff in. Figure it out :)`
`16:29.03`	`p3lim`	`localize what`
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`16:31.17`	`Shadowed`	`Just look at Chatter, it probably has the localized name`
`16:31.37`	`Shadowed`	`in the module that remaps channel names to shorter verisons`
`16:32.55`	`p3lim`	`again, localize what?`
`16:33.13`	`zenzelezz`	`name of trade channel`
`16:33.19`	`zenzelezz`	`in frFR`
`16:43.10`	`wsoul`	`Nobles Deck will get me greatness trinket?`
`16:43.33`	`olafski`	`yarp`
`16:43.35`	`wsoul`	`Do i have to collect the 8 cards as well to get it or?`
`16:43.44`	`olafski`	`either the 8 cards or the deck`
`16:44.04`	`wsoul`	`eno the nobles deck`
`16:44.07`	`wsoul`	`5500g`
`16:44.16`	`wsoul`	`shall i buy it?`
`16:44.38`	`wsoul`	`i don't want to collect the 8 cards, the 8 cards the reagents for nobles deck iirc`
`16:45.25`	`olafski`	`yeah they are`
`16:45.40`	`wsoul`	`so going for it... 5500 ;/`
`16:47.09`	`wsoul`	`so all i have to do is take the quest, turn it in and pick one of the 4 trinkets`
`16:49.00`	`olafski`	`yes`
`16:49.05`	`olafski`	`if the darkmoon faire is around(!)`
`16:49.13`	`wsoul`	`next sunday :(`
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`16:53.18`	`wsoul`	`now i am broke again`
`16:53.31`	`wsoul`	`i cannot remember who suggested me to buy that kirin tor ring`
`16:53.44`	`wsoul`	`awesome ring :D`
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`17:05.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Awesome word play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obIGsb-IZMo&NR`
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`17:21.15`	`Cidwel`	`good morning sunshine`
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`17:23.13`	`Cidwel`	`i have a question, in a wow xml file, when the first <UI> sentence, we could attach a <script/> sentence, what should do this?`
`17:29.31`	`Tentacled`	`Cidwel: could you expand on you question..?`
`17:32.07`	`Cidwel`	`Yep, In my quest trying to get some actions only one time to be done at first time in my addon, skipping in crete variable switchs or new frame forms, I've noticed that the first line in the xml file a <script/>thing that I think I could use in order to initiate some variables before the xml loads at full.`
`17:32.30`	`Cidwel`	`i mean: <Ui xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/"> <Script file="Frame.lua" />`
`17:32.58`	`Cidwel`	`that last <Script> thingy.. I don't know when it triggers or what is pretended to do`
`17:33.05`	`Tentacled`	`intended.`
`17:33.13`	`Tentacled`	`it's executed on load, basically.`
`17:33.14`	`Cidwel`	`whopp`
`17:33.35`	`Cidwel`	`so I could attach a file with some init variables with any problem?`
`17:33.39`	`Cidwel`	`I'll try :3`
`17:33.58`	`Tentacled`	`that's one of the basic ways to load a lua file, yes.`
`17:34.08`	`Cidwel`	`yay!`
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`19:37.08`	`Poacher`	`hey`
`19:37.56`	`Poacher`	`can anyone help me out with an issue in my script? i promise it will be quick`
`19:38.26`	`Cide`	`Cidwel: change name`
`19:41.09`	`ScytheBlade1`	`~asktoask`
`19:41.10`	`purl`	`This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.`
`19:41.41`	`Poacher`	`EnergyBar:SetWidth(196 * (UnitHealth("player") / UnitHealthMax("player"))); works once and then stops`
`19:42.20`	`Poacher`	`being called from <OnUpdate> node`
`19:43.50`	`ScytheBlade1`	`turn on lua errors?`
`19:45.19`	`Poacher`	`sorry im kinda new to this, but how do you turn on LUA errors?`
`19:46.18`	`Shirik`	`Lua is not an acronym`
`19:46.31`	`Shirik`	`and it's in interface settings`
`19:46.37`	`Shirik`	`I believe the display tab`
`19:48.06`	`ScytheBlade1`	`interface options --> help`
`19:48.10`	`ScytheBlade1`	`~failrik`
`19:48.10`	`purl`	`FAIL, Shirik, FAIL!`
`19:48.26`	`Shirik`	`hey you`
`19:48.31`	`Shirik`	`I just spent the last 24 hours figuring out qmake`
`19:48.35`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`19:48.43`	`Shirik`	`the script is now godlike`
`19:48.46`	`ScytheBlade1`	`AND YOU DIDN'T PUSH`
`19:48.48`	`ScytheBlade1`	`~failrik`
`19:48.49`	`purl`	`FAIL, Shirik, FAIL!`
`19:48.50`	`Shirik`	`yes I did..`
`19:48.56`	`Shirik`	`You obviously suck at hg`
`19:49.45`	`DWSR`	`~lart ScytheBlade1`
`19:49.46`	`purl`	`nukes ScytheBlade1 with a single large nuke`
`19:50.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`okay, weird. The message I moderated wasn't a backheld one from before the whitelisting, then`
`19:50.20`	`Shirik`	`hm?`
`19:50.30`	`Poacher`	`lol, yes Lua errors are turned on, there also seems to be another issue with the bar sometimes showing and sometimes not, is there a depth setting i need to define in the layers node?`
`19:51.02`	`Poacher`	`no errors are thrown when the OnUpdate takes place`
`19:53.45`	`Poacher`	`I know these seem like noobish questions, but I've spent the morning on the wowwiki api site and i cant find anything on what could be the cause`
`19:54.05`	`ScytheBlade1`	`pastey your code?`
`19:54.09`	`ScytheBlade1`	`http://wowuidev.pastey.net/`
`19:55.38`	`Poacher`	`ok one moment`
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`19:58.34`	`Poacher`	`http://wowuidev.pastey.net/124326-28fp`
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`20:00.17`	`ScytheBlade1`	`definitely going to need the lua too`
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`20:00.42`	`ScytheBlade1`	`wait, no`
`20:00.42`	`ScytheBlade1`	`hm`
`20:00.59`	`Poacher`	`theres no calls to the lua in that`
`20:01.19`	`ScytheBlade1`	`ah`
`20:01.24`	`ScytheBlade1`	`(and there are)`
`20:01.26`	`ScytheBlade1`	`but!`
`20:01.31`	`ScytheBlade1`	`<Layer level="ENERGYBG">`
`20:01.49`	`ScytheBlade1`	`the only valid levels are 'BACKGROUND', 'BORDER', 'ARTWORK', 'OVERLAY', and 'HIGHLIGHT'`
`20:02.06`	`Poacher`	`ahhh... /facepalm`
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`20:03.13`	`Poacher`	`can I move all of those into one <Layer level="ARTWORK">?`
`20:03.19`	`Poacher`	`or do each need their own`
`20:03.36`	`ScytheBlade1`	`no, if they all belong in the artwork layer, they should go into a single <Layer>`
`20:03.44`	`Poacher`	`thank you`
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`20:13.50`	`Poacher`	`okay, I've discovered why the bars dont show on occassion, and have fixed that, however the SetWidth isn't being done each OnUpdate`
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`20:20.27`	Cralor`	`How do you check to see if an addon in installed?`
`20:21.15`	`ScytheBlade1`	`!api GetAddon`
`20:21.15`	`lua_bot`	`Found 5 possible results for 'GetAddon': GetAddOnDependencies, GetAddOnMetadata, GetAddOnCPUUsage, GetAddOnInfo, GetAddOnMemoryUsage`
`20:22.20`	Cralor`	`Thanks. WoWWiki's google swearch did not pick up the term "getaddon" :P`
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`20:23.15`	`foxlit`	Cralor`: in-line search on [[API]] might be easier.
`20:23.40`	Cralor`	`yeah.`
`20:24.15`	`foxlit`	`There's also http://www.wowwiki.com/Global_functions`
`20:24.45`	Cralor`	`oh thanks that should be easier`
`20:25.03`	`jnwhiteh`	`and http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api`
`20:27.26`	`jnwhiteh`	`me yawns`
`20:27.32`	`jnwhiteh`	`how is everyone?`
`20:27.52`	`mikma`	`trying to think of a servername for my friend`
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`20:51.12`	`mikma`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AOfbnGkuGc`
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`20:55.39`	`Cairenn`	`bleeter: rofl, that's a joke, right?`
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`21:39.55`	`Poacher`	`if I have a folder in my addon folder named "skin" that contains a png that I want to use in a frame, how do i access it via xml?`
`21:40.28`	`Poacher`	`or can pngs even be used?`
`21:41.53`	`ckknight`	`convert it to tga first ;-)`
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`21:42.25`	`Poacher`	`tga supports transparency?`
`21:42.32`	`AnduinLothar`	`yes`
`21:42.36`	`Poacher`	`thank you`
`21:43.01`	`Poacher`	`is there a bit depth that it needs to be?`
`21:43.16`	`Poacher`	`8 bit or 16 bit etc...`
`21:43.28`	`AnduinLothar`	`pick the higher one if you have more than just off/on`
`21:43.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`Poacher: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=15439`
`21:44.27`	`AnduinLothar`	`i think 8bit transparency works, but you probably want 16`
`21:44.39`	`Poacher`	`cool, ill try em both thanks guys`
`21:44.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`"uncompressed, 32-bit (24-bit+Alpha @ 72dpi) TGA file"`
`21:45.00`	`AnduinLothar`	`so it says`
`21:45.05`	`AnduinLothar`	`but i'm pretty sure 8 works`
`21:45.14`	`AnduinLothar`	`i could be wrong`
`21:45.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`32-24=8`
`21:45.46`	`AnduinLothar`	`ok, well i knoew 16 works`
`21:46.11`	`AnduinLothar`	`so if it says 8 works, then yeah, they both work (i jsut can't count)`
`21:46.39`	`AnduinLothar`	`it's been a while since i made images for wow`
`21:48.05`	`Poacher`	`okay, now once i have it in a folder in the addon folder ive created "Poacher_UnitFrames/skin" how do i reference to it via xml?`
`21:48.31`	`Poacher`	`is it simply "Interface/Poacher_UnitFrames/Skin/Image.tga" or something different?`
`21:48.51`	`AnduinLothar`	`double slashes?`
`21:48.55`	`AnduinLothar`	`or is that just lua`
`21:49.02`	`Poacher`	`errr... Interface/AddOns/Poacher_UnitFrames/Skin/Image.tga`
`21:49.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`just lua`
`21:49.11`	`AnduinLothar`	`and i think you drop the .tga`
`21:49.21`	`Poacher`	`ill give that a shot`
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`21:56.00`	`Adys`	`What's the correct sentence? "Every third one of them is right" or "Every third one of them are right"`
`21:56.32`	`Adys`	`(Considering I'm talking about something continuous, so there will always be more than one third one)`
`21:56.57`	`Seerah`	`is`
`21:57.10`	`Seerah`	`because you're talking about "one" person, albeit repetitively`
`21:57.35`	`Adys`	`Ok`
`21:57.44`	`Seerah`	`"every third skittle I take out of the bag is a red one."`
`21:57.53`	`mikma`	`fpr me to poop on`
`21:58.04`	`Seerah`	`~lart mikma`
`21:58.04`	`purl`	`keeps mailing mikma free America Online CDs until he drowns`
`21:58.10`	`Seerah`	`you owe me a new bag of skittles`
`21:58.41`	`bleeter`	`Cairenn: I believe the story is deadly serious http://www.google.com.au/search?q=Richard+Graham+tavistock+warcraft`
`21:58.53`	`Cairenn`	`huh`
`21:59.16`	`Cairenn`	`I don't like the way they are singling out an individual game`
`21:59.19`	`Adys`	`Seerah: And is it "Every third of them" or "Every third one of them" ?`
`21:59.41`	`Seerah`	`of what? ;)`
`21:59.47`	`Adys`	`drumbeats`
`22:00.01`	`Seerah`	`then say "every third drumbeat"`
`22:00.31`	`Adys`	`but i dont want to qq`
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`22:00.54`	`Seerah`	`well... using drumbeat makes it sound better. but, otherwise, you'd use "of them"`
`22:01.00`	`Seerah`	`or... "one of them" actually`
`22:01.10`	`Seerah`	`every third one of them`
`22:01.25`	`bleeter`	`Cairenn: they might not be, but the media may be skewing it. I can't see anything immediate on the tavistock page, merely links to cuttings from bbc news where it's re-reported`
`22:01.35`	`Cairenn`	`nod`
`22:01.41`	`bleeter`	`Cairenn: probably hard to cite without receiving the professional papers`
`22:01.46`	`Cairenn`	`yeah`
`22:02.03`	`bleeter`	`interesting, though`
`22:02.05`	`bleeter`	`but gotta say`
`22:02.10`	`Adys`	`ok`
`22:02.10`	`bleeter`	`not as interesting as fresh coffee`
`22:02.13`	`Adys`	`thought so :P`
`22:02.14`	`bleeter`	`bbiab`
`22:05.11`	`Adys`	`varian really IS a jerk`
`22:05.20`	`Adys`	`"Stormwind honors your service to the alliance"`
`22:05.24`	`Adys`	`"Stormwind is reborn!"`
`22:05.34`	`Adys`	`"Welcome to Stormwind citizen!"`
`22:05.42`	`Adys`	`"Stormwind! Stormwind! STORMWIND!"`
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`22:08.24`	`Adys`	`so im actually taking any bet`
`22:08.43`	`Adys`	`on how many achievements in cataclysm will contain a "Merely a setback" joke`
`22:08.51`	`Fisker`	`you`
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`22:12.06`	`Fisker`	`they need more onyxia achievements`
`22:14.26`	`Adys`	`I think if someone from blizz came up to me with a job saying "You get to choose whichever job you want in the company"`
`22:14.49`	`Poacher`	`looks like double slashes were needed even in xml`
`22:14.58`	`Adys`	`I'd answer "Whichever one gets to select achievement names"`
`22:15.11`	`Shirik`	`bleeter`
`22:15.18`	`Shirik`	`I'm not sure if this is [sic] or not`
`22:15.23`	`bleeter`	`Adys: I'd take 'chief navel gazer'`
`22:15.45`	`Shirik`	`"Those effected donât exhibit the same outward warning signs as most teenage anti-social behaviour issues do because theyâre in their bedrooms most of the time, seemingly out of trouble."`
`22:15.56`	`Shirik`	`I was unaware that World of Warcraft doubled as a cloning machine`
`22:15.59`	`Shirik`	`that's quite impressive`
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`22:18.42`	`Adys`	`wewt, got my strand crawler`
`22:22.51`	`Corrodias`	`hmph, thought maybe you said sand crawler`
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`22:26.26`	`bleeter`	`I hope blizz do an authenticator for the n900`
`22:27.04`	`Shirik`	`I hope they don't`
`22:27.06`	`Cidwel`	`XML FILES FOR UI FOR GREAT JUSTICE`
`22:27.08`	`Shirik`	`you should get a real phone`
`22:27.46`	`bleeter`	`Shirik: who said I wanted a phone? :P`
`22:28.06`	`Shirik`	`no n900 for you`
`22:28.25`	`LordVashtal`	`nah, go old-school. Blizzard authenticator for the TI-83+`
`22:28.25`	`bleeter`	`hah`
`22:28.26`	`bleeter`	`pdp-7`
`22:30.54`	`mikma`	`well, n900 is a phone..`
`22:31.31`	`Shirik`	`TI-83 would be win`
`22:31.43`	`mikma`	`bleeter: also, n900 runs java, authenticator should work`
`22:31.49`	`Shirik`	`I'll make an adapter so it can communciate over ethernet via the data port`
`22:32.07`	`tekkub`	`83 sucks, 86 ftw`
`22:32.11`	`Shirik`	`you will run out of memory after about 0.1 seconds of operation`
`22:32.27`	`Shirik`	`nah nah`
`22:32.29`	`Shirik`	`83 is awesome`
`22:32.29`	`LordVashtal`	`that's why i said 83+`
`22:32.31`	`Shirik`	`it has the Z80 in it`
`22:32.38`	`Shirik`	`83 is how I first learned assembly`
`22:32.57`	`LordVashtal`	`aaah, mtsquest. a game i love and hate at the same time`
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`22:35.15`	`Shirik`	`http://www.wimp.com/beautifulsong/`
`22:39.55`	`bleeter`	`mikma: n900 is a computer with phone bits :P`
`22:40.03`	`bleeter`	`mikma: true re: java`
`22:40.37`	`mikma`	`bleeter: trust me, i know ^^`
`22:40.56`	`bleeter`	`I saw a pre-release n900 earlier this year, felt very nice even though it was still buggy`
`22:41.26`	`bleeter`	`some of the former pidgin hackers were employed by nokia's contractors ><`
`22:41.33`	`mikma`	`bleeter: my friend has been coding stuff for maemo since n770`
`22:41.49`	`bleeter`	`mikma: heh small world ;)`
`22:42.22`	`mikma`	`eventho he can't say anything about his work, i sure in hell get the latest info about releases.. and small hints of features to come beforehand in weird ways ^^`
`22:42.22`	`bleeter`	`mikma: as someone who's got some experience in gtk n stuff, the platform is more attractive to me than iphone`
`22:42.53`	`mikma`	`best one i can remember is "hey, install skype to your pc and come help me test does my account work"`
`22:43.01`	`mikma`	`1 week later, "skype released to n810"`
`22:43.07`	`mikma`	`riiiight`
`22:43.24`	`mikma`	`http://www.geekologie.com/2009/08/dual_screen_laptops_here_befor.php`
`22:45.10`	`bleeter`	`he probably knows the collabora.co.uk guys then ;)`
`22:45.12`	`Fisker`	`makes Shirik a fart`
`22:45.53`	`mikma`	`bleeter: don't know, haven't asked :)`
`22:46.14`	`Sesshu\|off`	`~good night`
`22:46.15`	`purl`	`Good night, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry!`
`22:46.37`	`Sesshu\|off`	`i don't like dry cookies purl`
`22:46.39`	`Sesshu\|off`	`!`
`22:46.43`	`Shirik`	`mikma, that is awesome`
`22:46.53`	`bleeter`	`mikma: they've been doing the gstreamer stuff for the non-phone voice/video parts`
`22:47.30`	`Fisker`	`slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout`
`22:47.40`	`Sesshu\|off`	`slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout`
`22:47.43`	`Fisker`	`goodnight sweet prince`
`22:48.04`	`LordVashtal`	`slaps Fisker around a bit with a large Shirik`
`22:48.09`	`LordVashtal`	`:P`
`22:48.11`	`mikma`	`shirik: http://www.geekologie.com/2009/08/real_life_mario_kart_gokart_is.php`
`22:48.12`	`Sesshu\|off`	`lol`
`22:48.52`	`Adys`	`Mozilla are assholes`
`22:49.01`	`Adys`	`they're forcing themselves default browser on linux now too`
`22:51.54`	`Shirik`	`mikma: I love how they try to advertise themselves at the end`
`22:52.01`	`Shirik`	`and can't even do it with proper english`
`22:52.21`	`mikma`	`shirik: the real life kart thing? i didnt watch it to the end xD`
`22:52.23`	`bleeter`	`Adys: cite?`
`22:52.26`	`Shirik`	`yes`
`22:52.46`	`mikma`	`shirik: the FIFTH "replay" of the same underbridge corner was enough`
`22:52.52`	`Shirik`	`lol`
`22:53.07`	`Shirik`	`I still want http://gizmodo.com/5346996/gscreens-dual+screen-spacebook-coming-soonish :(`
`22:53.07`	`Adys`	`bleeter: every time i start ff3.5 its changing x-www-browser symlink`
`22:54.04`	`Adys`	`Shirik: rofl`
`22:54.36`	`Adys`	`this is the ugliest laptop ever`
`22:55.27`	`Adys`	`and its quite awesome`
`22:55.31`	`bleeter`	`Adys: ah, see I don't use a linux that has x-www-browser so I've never noticed ;)`
`22:56.01`	`bleeter`	`if it's what I'm thinking of`
`22:56.17`	`Adys`	`its prolly changing other symlinks too`
`23:03.49`	`cbreak`	`chmod go-w`
`23:06.18`	`*** join/#wowuidev Poacher (n=pentagea@99-2-137-208.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net)`
`23:06.55`	`*** join/#wowuidev Poacher (n=pentagea@99-2-137-208.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net)`
`23:07.01`	`Poacher`	`whoah`
`23:07.48`	`Poacher`	`can someone tell me what arguments to supply to the "Even Simpler" method here: http://www.wowwiki.com/SetTexCoord_Transformations ?`
`23:09.12`	`*** join/#wowuidev Poacher (n=pentagea@99-2-137-208.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net)`
`23:09.17`	`Poacher`	`basically i have a texture that should rotate around its center point as the player loses health`
`23:09.23`	`Poacher`	`why do i keep getting DC'd? ><`
`23:09.52`	`mikma`	`stop`
`23:09.57`	`mikma`	`downloading`
`23:10.00`	`mikma`	`porn!`
`23:10.01`	`Poacher`	`porn?`
`23:10.03`	`Poacher`	`lol`
`23:14.52`	`*** join/#wowuidev Archegos (n=pentagea@99-2-137-208.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net)`
`23:15.00`	`Archegos`	`<--- Poacher`
`23:15.10`	`Archegos`	`that nick was taken apparently :(`
`23:16.58`	`mikma`	`porn`
`23:17.29`	`MentalPower`	`[19:16:59]NickServInformation on poacheR (account poacheR):`
`23:17.31`	`MentalPower`	`[19:16:59]NickServRegistered : Aug 25 13:53:41 2009 (5 days, 09:23:17 ago)`
`23:17.33`	`MentalPower`	`[19:16:59]NickServLast addr : n=chatzill@resnet-30754.resnet.bris.ac.uk`
`23:17.34`	`MentalPower`	`[19:16:59]NickServLast seen : now`
`23:17.36`	`MentalPower`	`[19:16:59]NickServFlags : HideMail`
`23:17.37`	`MentalPower`	`[19:16:59]NickServ* End of Info *`
`23:17.42`	`MentalPower`	`Archegos: looks like you were 5 days late :/`
`23:17.57`	`Shirik`	`stabs MentalPower`
`23:18.09`	`MentalPower`	`falls over and dies`
`23:18.24`	`MentalPower`	`6 lines is not that much :P`
`23:19.56`	`*** join/#wowuidev Cide- (n=Cide@h161n1-far-gr100.ias.bredband.telia.com)`
`23:19.56`	`*** mode/#wowuidev [+v Cide-] by ChanServ`
`23:20.24`	`Shirik`	`:MentalPower!n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower PRIVMSG #wowuidev :+[19:16:59] NickServ * End of Info *`
`23:20.24`	`Shirik`	`Total score: 19.070502765764`
`23:20.30`	`*** join/#wowuidev Tinyboom_ (n=nahh@41.80-202-154.nextgentel.com)`
`23:20.30`	`Shirik`	`Shiibot was keeping an eye on you`
`23:21.23`	`Shirik`	`hai Cide`
`23:21.29`	`MentalPower`	`what does that "score"?`
`23:21.42`	`Shirik`	`its decision on whether or not it was spam`
`23:22.09`	`MentalPower`	`so 19% "spammy"`
`23:22.15`	`Shirik`	`not really`
`23:22.40`	`Shirik`	`19 is an arbitrary score, which happens to have its limit at 60 right now. But it's exponential, so 19 is kinda high :P`
`23:23.06`	`Shirik`	`:Shirik!i=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik PRIVMSG #wowuidev :+hai Cide`
`23:23.07`	`*** join/#wowuidev Zyn- (n=faggotry@h243n2-av-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com)`
`23:23.07`	`Shirik`	`Total score: 0.7719349836167`
`23:23.11`	`Shirik`	`That's a more average score :)`
`23:23.33`	`Shirik`	`it's ok though, Shiibot has forgiven you :P`
`23:24.20`	`MentalPower`	`what's the highest you've seen?`
`23:24.34`	`MentalPower`	`663494`
`23:24.45`	`Shirik`	`highest?`
`23:24.55`	`MentalPower`	`oops... good thing that's just the authenticator code...`
`23:25.00`	`Gnarfoz`	`lol`
`23:25.07`	`Shirik`	`what's an easy way of finding that out`
`23:25.14`	`Shirik`	`is there some "largest" command in unix?`
`23:25.21`	`MentalPower`	`sort`
`23:25.42`	`MentalPower`	`it'll take a while tho`
`23:26.11`	`cbreak`	`something \| sort \| tail`
`23:30.50`	`Shirik`	`sort is sorting alphabetically :(`
`23:31.12`	`cbreak`	`sort -g`
`23:31.28`	`Shirik`	`rofl`
`23:31.42`	`Shirik`	`mpdelbuono@li23-154 ~/spambot $ cat ./nohup.out \| grep -v ML \| grep -v JAT \| grep -v PRIVMSG \| grep -o "[0-9][0-9]\.[0-9][0-9]$" \| sort -g \| tail -n 1`
`23:31.42`	`Shirik`	`209306.52736939`
`23:32.04`	`Shirik`	`I wonder who that was`
`23:34.01`	`Shirik`	`ah right`
`23:34.06`	`Shirik`	`see this shows you how exponential it is :P`
`23:34.24`	`Shirik`	`Total score: 71.530832571308`
`23:34.26`	`Shirik`	`Total score: 209306.52736939`
`23:34.30`	`Shirik`	`two messages right next to each other`
`23:35.04`	`Shirik`	`I've changed the formula since then though`
`23:35.25`	`MentalPower`	`what sort of stuff does it look at?`
`23:35.46`	`cbreak`	`moon phase`
`23:36.06`	`*** join/#wowuidev Kraps (n=chatzill@ool-44c20717.dyn.optonline.net)`
`23:36.23`	`Shirik`	`a lot of things`
`23:36.41`	`Shirik`	`the most dramatic effects are caused by people joining and talking instantly, or someone who's been silent forever suddenly saying a ton of things`
`23:37.06`	`Shirik`	`also looks for sudden bursts of joining, or very short term joins`
`23:37.19`	`Kraps`	`you talking about vent?`
`23:37.30`	`Shirik`	`there's also some crazy formula Cide coded that I have no idea how it works`
`23:37.50`	`Shirik`	`no Kraps`
`23:37.54`	`Shirik`	`Shiibot`
`23:39.35`	`mikma`	`shitpoop`
`23:39.37`	`Shirik`	`authenticated users also get a break, their scores are lower`
`23:40.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`23:40.18`	`Shirik`	`and yet, ScytheBlade1 still managed to trip him with 3 messages`
`23:40.19`	`ScytheBlade1`	`so what you're saying is that I'm awesome for breaking the channel yesterday`
`23:40.47`	`ScytheBlade1`	`so awesome`
`23:40.50`	`cbreak`	`did you say something bad about artificial intelligences?`
`23:41.05`	`Shirik`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/124334`
`23:41.18`	`Shirik`	`ScytheBlade1's last message before that isn't even on my screen`
`23:41.23`	`Shirik`	`so it must have been a few hours off`
`23:41.44`	`Shirik`	`I consider that a positive result`
`23:41.49`	`cbreak`	`it must hate yelling.`
`23:42.10`	`Shirik`	`there is a module for unusual capitalization, yes`
`23:42.12`	`ScytheBlade1`	`It was justified yelling`
`23:43.30`	`Shirik`	`though, he barely hit the limit`
`23:43.30`	`Shirik`	`Total score: 62.694036893104`
`23:43.31`	`MentalPower`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:43.53`	`Cloudwolf`	`...???`
`23:43.59`	`MentalPower`	`30ish?`
`23:44.07`	`Shirik`	`I can't tell yet`
`23:44.10`	`Shirik`	`the log is buffered`
`23:44.15`	`MentalPower`	`ah, IC`
`23:44.28`	`Shirik`	`but, in general, I don't actually look at the length of the message`
`23:44.33`	`mikma`	`how about...`
`23:44.37`	`mikma`	`XXXXXXXXX`
`23:45.06`	`Shirik`	`generally I put messages into two buckets: suspect and not suspect`
`23:45.25`	`Shirik`	`the general formula looks to see if we have reached a significant number of suspect messages compared to non-suspect messages`
`23:45.34`	`Shirik`	`how suspect it was is irrelevant`
`23:45.56`	`Shirik`	`however, MentalPower, your message did come up with a score of 22 for two reasons`
`23:46.04`	`Shirik`	`three, sorry`
`23:46.12`	`Shirik`	`unusually long word, numbers within the word, and no lowercase letters`
`23:46.27`	`Kraps`	`this is why robots should not be allowed to take us over`
`23:46.36`	`Shirik`	`Mikma got to a score of a whopping 5`
`23:46.39`	`Kraps`	`THEY'RE STUPID`
`23:46.42`	`mikma`	`5!`
`23:46.42`	`bleeter`	`Kraps: bit late for that`
`23:46.44`	`Shirik`	`probably because Mikma talks too much`
`23:47.05`	`mikma`	`shirik: f**k you too!!11`
`23:47.07`	`Shirik`	`the more you talk successfully, the less weight you have in consideration`
`23:47.14`	`Shirik`	`(this slowly wears down)`
`23:48.44`	`mikma`	`shirik: http://kuvaton.com/bshit/will_there_be_____by_sometimes_normal.jpg`
`23:53.44`	`bleeter`	`basically, talk like a murloc with numbers and Shirik's bot screws up`
`23:53.50`	`bleeter`	`MRGRMLGRMLGRLGMLRGLRMRGLRMG!!!11!!!`
`23:53.52`	`bleeter`	`etc.`
`23:54.11`	`Shirik`	`murloc == spam`
`23:54.36`	`MentalPower`	`murloc can be not spam in very specific circumstances`
`23:54.42`	`bleeter`	`not when blizz tellpeople to speak like a murloc`
`23:54.55`	`MentalPower`	`^^^^ exactly`
`23:55.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh god wtf, font looks so horrible on pastey.net`
`23:55.45`	`Shirik`	`lol`
`23:55.50`	`Shirik`	`was it you that got caught, bleeter?`
`23:56.20`	`Shirik`	`Someone was singing along with L85ETC's ... I think "I am murloc"? and Shiibot locked the channel`
`23:56.49`	`bleeter`	`Shirik: were you drunk?`
`23:56.59`	`bleeter`	`just trying to imagine why you can't remember it was me! :P`
`23:57.08`	`Shirik`	`how should I know!`
`23:57.11`	`MentalPower`	`Arrowmaster: its verdana, or (as failback) whatever your browser has for a sans-serif font`
`23:57.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`no its the Andale Mono`
`23:57.46`	`Shirik`	`ok, so win: http://kuvaton.com/browse/12667/water_fairy_art.jpg`
`23:57.52`	`Shirik`	`and now I go to publix`
`23:57.52`	`Shirik`	`bye`
`23:58.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`MentalPower: the H's in http://wowi.pastey.net/124334 look fucking horrible in Andale Mono, they look more like H\|`
`23:59.09`	`Kraps`	`http://www.publix.com/`
`23:59.15`	`Shirik`	`btw MentalPower, the fact that he responds to real spam within 3 messages (or has in the past, at least), and rarely gets any false positives (I know of about 3 in the past year, two of which I wouldn't actually call a false positive), I think the system's fairly good`
`23:59.17`	`MentalPower`	`Arrowmaster: font-family: Monaco, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, Andale Mono, Courier New, mono;`
`23:59.36`	`Kraps`	`is amazed that you can buy groceries online`
`23:59.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`MentalPower: can you add DejaVu Sans Mono right before or after Bitstream Vera Sans Mono?`

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