| 00:00.12 | Lopeppeppy | Yawn, wake me up when it's time to go to sleep |
| 00:00.20 | bleeter | @@ look in to my @ symbols |
| 00:00.27 | Wobin | Hah, it'll last a lifetime |
| 00:00.33 | Wobin | none of this 50 use shenanigans |
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| 00:02.04 | Lopeppeppy | The effects in Daredevil suck more every time I see it. |
| 00:02.12 | Lopeppeppy | Little gumby guys floating around. |
| 00:02.59 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: You should watch Spawn, again =) |
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| 00:03.15 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think I've ever watched that the whole way through. |
| 00:03.16 | Cruciformer | best sfx: still T2 (considering the time) |
| 00:03.24 | Lopeppeppy | Twilight is next on my list. |
| 00:03.51 | p3lim | is there some api to get NPC titles? |
| 00:04.09 | ckknight | Lopeppeppy: do I dazzle you? |
| 00:04.44 | Wobin | wow... awesome: http://www.chickashanews.com/local/local_story_239102559.html |
| 00:04.45 | Lopeppeppy | I dunno, ckk. I'm still working on that. Must finish Daredevil first. |
| 00:04.53 | p3lim | anyone? |
| 00:04.54 | Wobin | At a town hall meeting Wednesday Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.) told Chickasha residents he does not need to read the 1,000 page health care reform bill, he will simply vote against it. |
| 00:04.55 | Wobin | "I don't have to read it, or know what's in it. I'm going to oppose it anyways," he said. |
| 00:05.02 | Wobin | Inhofe said public opinion and information provided by news media have helped him become a staunch non-supporter of the bill. |
| 00:05.08 | Wobin | Thank you, Fox News |
| 00:05.28 | Lopeppeppy | Oh god. |
| 00:05.37 | Lopeppeppy | We're all fukt if our reps are like that. |
| 00:06.24 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: u r all fukt |
| 00:06.24 | Lopeppeppy | Twilight can't be much worse than The Covenant. |
| 00:06.24 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: twighlight's fkn vomitous |
| 00:06.24 | Esamynn | bleeter: of that, there is no doubt |
| 00:06.26 | Lopeppeppy | So I hear, bleeter. I'm watching DD, I must be in a mood for shite movies. |
| 00:06.34 | Esamynn | lol |
| 00:07.32 | Wobin | Twilight is only worse than the Convenant, only because of the fangrrls |
| 00:07.39 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: I'll try and dig out my friend's synopsis of Twighlight for you |
| 00:07.44 | Wobin | The ones that freak me out the most are the TwiMoms |
| 00:07.47 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 00:07.56 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: she's a senior film lecturer at a respect aussie university, so she knows her shit.. hang on |
| 00:08.00 | bleeter | respected |
| 00:08.12 | Wobin | the -mothers- that feel that Twilight represents how they want their daughter's love lives to go |
| 00:08.27 | Lopeppeppy | Jesus, that does scare me. |
| 00:08.32 | Wobin | (and this is even after they've read the books) |
| 00:08.36 | Lopeppeppy | "I'd like you to fall in love with a stalker!" |
| 00:08.53 | Lopeppeppy | Girls are going to believe that boys will just sit and look. That's sooooooooo horse crap. |
| 00:09.02 | Wobin | "I want you to have a demon child that must RIP IT'S WAY THROUGH YOUR SPINE IN ORDER TO BE BIRTHED" |
| 00:09.03 | Lopeppeppy | * and I haven't even seen the movie, I just know he's some stalker dude. |
| 00:09.10 | Lopeppeppy | Spine? Not the front? |
| 00:09.15 | Wobin | nu-uh |
| 00:09.19 | Wobin | it's a VAMPIRE BABY |
| 00:09.25 | Wobin | (and sparkly) |
| 00:09.47 | Lopeppeppy | Sparkly spine ripping freak |
| 00:09.53 | Wobin | BUT SPARKLY |
| 00:10.07 | Lopeppeppy | Sparkling is for glitter facepaint, not living things. |
| 00:10.31 | Cruciformer | you're looking for rational consistency with sparkly when we're talking about vampires? |
| 00:10.52 | Wobin | SPARKLY |
| 00:10.52 | Lopeppeppy | Some vampire worlds have consistency and respectability. |
| 00:11.44 | Cruciformer | I was refering more to you bringing it into the real world talking about face paint and living things :) |
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| 00:12.03 | Lopeppeppy | I know, silly peppy wants realism in her fakery |
| 00:12.28 | Cruciformer | :) |
| 00:12.47 | Cruciformer | I guess thats better than having fakery in your realism |
| 00:12.57 | Lopeppeppy | Which could circle us around to Fleshlights quite nearly |
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| 00:13.16 | Cruciformer | fleshlights sucj |
| 00:13.22 | Cruciformer | well, they dont suck with is why ... they suck :P |
| 00:13.30 | Cruciformer | sucj=suck |
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| 00:13.54 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle* |
| 00:13.54 | Cruciformer | (did I miss somethiong about fleshlights earlier? |
| 00:14.04 | Lopeppeppy | You did. |
| 00:14.09 | Cruciformer | oi vey |
| 00:14.16 | Cruciformer | is it worth scrolling up for? |
| 00:14.34 | Lopeppeppy | nope |
| 00:14.41 | Thunder_Child | i think it's oy |
| 00:15.15 | Cruciformer | well no its probably "squiggle splat" but since I cant type those characters it was more phonetic |
| 00:15.40 | Cruciformer | (but with a slight south african accent):) |
| 00:15.54 | Wobin | I dunno |
| 00:15.55 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: http://users.on.net/~bleeter/twilight_synopsis.html |
| 00:16.06 | Thunder_Child | yiddish with a south african accent....the mind boggles |
| 00:16.20 | Wobin | Didn't the nice lady say something about "Adjust the end cap for desired suction"? |
| 00:16.25 | Wobin | Are you saying she was LYING? |
| 00:16.38 | bleeter | n just to prove she's serious: http://emsah.uq.edu.au/index.html?page=34109&pid=0 "Current Interests: The cultural reception of Stephenie Meyer's Twilight series." lolol |
| 00:17.24 | Lopeppeppy | Nice, bleeter. *laugh* |
| 00:17.28 | Wobin | bleeter: wow, synoptic =) |
| 00:18.55 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: I've just saved you from 'having' to watch the movie ;) |
| 00:19.28 | Cruciformer | ok ythat synopsis made me lol |
| 00:19.28 | bleeter | I think the movie finishes somewhere near "'GRRR,' like a caveman" |
| 00:20.00 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, I still want to see it. I have teenaged nieces and nephews and stuff, must keep current with what's hot, so I stay the "cool" auntie |
| 00:20.42 | Cruciformer | u wanna be the cool auntie? get em iphones, 100 songs on itunes, and a lasting crack pipe |
| 00:20.57 | Cruciformer | thats what all teh yunguns want these days |
| 00:21.14 | Lopeppeppy | They have cellphones, they don't need data plans. :) |
| 00:21.38 | bleeter | screw the iphone, get 'em a nokia n900!!! |
| 00:21.45 | bleeter | when they're released next month ;) |
| 00:21.50 | Wobin | You want to be the -cool- auntie, explain how Twilight is a terrible terrible phenomenon |
| 00:22.04 | bleeter | indeed |
| 00:22.12 | bleeter | will rot their bits off worse than any STD ever will |
| 00:22.19 | Esamynn | lol |
| 00:22.26 | Esamynn | is it really that bad? |
| 00:22.31 | Esamynn | has not seen it |
| 00:22.33 | Wobin | It's the worst bit of self insertion fic I've seen in quite some time |
| 00:22.33 | bleeter | Esamynn: no |
| 00:22.37 | bleeter | Esamynn: it's worse |
| 00:22.43 | Esamynn | oh |
| 00:22.55 | Lopeppeppy | I hear it's pretty bad, esamynn, the synopsis bleeter links is right on, so far as I've heard. |
| 00:22.55 | Wobin | It just -happens- (-happens- mind you) that Bella just -happens- to look somewhat like Stephanie Meyer |
| 00:22.58 | Esamynn | bleeter: better or worse than the Titanic phenomenon |
| 00:23.04 | Wobin | SURPRISE! |
| 00:23.12 | bleeter | Esamynn: titanic had some basis in reality |
| 00:23.14 | Wobin | esamynn: worse |
| 00:23.19 | Esamynn | ~whaleslap Wobin |
| 00:23.20 | purl | ACTION beats Wobin upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 00:23.31 | Wobin | because Titanic didn't convince teenagers to run away onto a GIANT SHIP |
| 00:23.46 | Esamynn | ... |
| 00:23.49 | Esamynn | oh jeez |
| 00:23.59 | bleeter | also, they didn't change the titanic so it glittered when it hit the fkn iceberg |
| 00:24.09 | Wobin | And the girl lived all the way to the end |
| 00:24.14 | Cruciformer | jesus why r people so hung up onthe glitter? |
| 00:24.27 | Wobin | Cruciformer: Because it's so utterly ridiculously out of left field |
| 00:24.29 | bleeter | Cruciformer: zombies are meant to burn up in natural light |
| 00:24.37 | bleeter | not fkn glow like... ugh |
| 00:24.42 | Wobin | Okay, you're a vampire. yay. suck blood, undead etc |
| 00:24.47 | Wobin | BUT YOU GLITTER IN SUNLIGHT |
| 00:24.52 | Cruciformer | hes not a zombie he's a special kind of vampire. a sparkly one. |
| 00:24.56 | bleeter | s/zombie/vampire/ |
| 00:25.10 | bleeter | may as well be it's so fkn mad |
| 00:25.10 | Cruciformer | personally I think it makes a change from the soooooooooooooooooooooo freakin overdone "omgimagoth" look |
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| 00:25.19 | Wobin | It's like an emo came in stephanie meyer's mouth =P |
| 00:25.24 | Lopeppeppy | Anything un natural that sparkled would die out evolutarily speaking. |
| 00:25.28 | Wobin | Cruciformer: Oh it's goth |
| 00:25.38 | Wobin | They're just SPARKLY goths |
| 00:25.38 | Cruciformer | its sparkly it cnt be goth |
| 00:25.44 | bleeter | why not make it turn blue like a smurf, instead of sparkle? srsly |
| 00:26.01 | Cruciformer | thats like saying the smiths sung HAPPY songs coz they made u want to use a CLEAN razor blade |
| 00:26.24 | Wobin | Cruciformer: well there's no point chancing tetnus |
| 00:26.32 | bleeter | nah I only wanted to do myself in when listening to the smiths 'coz morrisey annoys the crap outta me |
| 00:26.38 | bleeter | johnny marr never mad me wanna do that ;) |
| 00:26.39 | Cruciformer | oh no esp when u r slashing your wrists |
| 00:27.08 | Wobin | but actually, I don't see how your analogy appiles |
| 00:27.22 | Lopeppeppy | What does a zombie massage therapist take care of? |
| 00:27.29 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: Parts? |
| 00:27.36 | Lopeppeppy | Straaaaaains! |
| 00:27.56 | Wobin | That's as bad as the vegetarian zombies |
| 00:28.01 | Wobin | Graaaaaaaains.... |
| 00:28.16 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 00:28.24 | roasticle__ | haha |
| 00:28.25 | Cruciformer | or the plumber zombies? draaaaaaaaaaaaaaains? |
| 00:28.48 | Wobin | in any case, sparkly or non sparkly, the twilight phenomena is a stain upon humanity |
| 00:28.51 | roasticle__ | speeding zombies LANNNESSSSSSS |
| 00:29.19 | Wobin | The fact that she's trying to convince all these teenagers that -that- is an appropriate relationship and something to strive for? |
| 00:29.39 | Cruciformer | who said she ws trying to convince teenagers of anything? |
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| 00:29.45 | Cruciformer | its a fantasy story |
| 00:29.48 | Wobin | Cruciformer: She is |
| 00:29.49 | Cruciformer | not a moral lesson |
| 00:30.03 | Wobin | oh and she's done nothing to say "Oh btw, kids, This is a BAD relationship"? |
| 00:30.05 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, handsome young native american boy, within 5 minutes she's trying on the moves. |
| 00:30.09 | Coren{de} | who said teenagers are taking her seriously? she's an adult... |
| 00:30.17 | Wobin | oh god |
| 00:30.39 | Lopeppeppy | It's crap I wouldn't want anyone to believe, but they do, same as people believe Harry Potter is real |
| 00:30.41 | Wobin | http://www.twilightmoms.com/ |
| 00:30.45 | Cruciformer | thats liek saying jk richbitch is trying to convince young kids to run into station walls to escape reality |
| 00:30.55 | Cruciformer | and become wizards |
| 00:31.13 | Lopeppeppy | She at least shows some normal relationships |
| 00:31.35 | Cruciformer | the point is that its a STORY ... a fantasy one at that |
| 00:31.38 | Cruciformer | not a moral framework |
| 00:31.54 | Cruciformer | if kids cant get their moral framework from their parents then the parants suck not a fantasy author |
| 00:32.04 | Lopeppeppy | Both can equally suck. |
| 00:32.09 | Lopeppeppy | Love the ugly truck that she *loves* |
| 00:32.13 | Wobin | So because she writes some self insertion fic, she is completely morally absolved from anything her writing causes? |
| 00:32.25 | Cruciformer | pretty much yes |
| 00:32.29 | Wobin | Fail |
| 00:32.34 | Cruciformer | if its fictiontiom she's absolved |
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| 00:32.55 | Lopeppeppy | Nah. |
| 00:32.58 | Wobin | It's not fiction to the thousands of teenagers and adults that fangrrl/boi her |
| 00:32.58 | Cruciformer | sorry I coughed in the moddle of typing the word fiction |
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| 00:33.12 | Cruciformer | wobin; thats their issue not hers |
| 00:33.20 | Wobin | She's still responsible |
| 00:33.26 | Cruciformer | no she is not |
| 00:33.32 | Lopeppeppy | Are you? |
| 00:33.36 | Cruciformer | how can she be responsible for other people's actions? thats absurd. |
| 00:33.42 | Wobin | She could make the disclaimer "Hey folks, this isn't a healthy relationship I'm writing about!" |
| 00:33.50 | Lopeppeppy | She could *try*. |
| 00:33.50 | Wobin | but instead, she encourages it |
| 00:34.00 | Wobin | The fact is she makes -no- effort whatsoever |
| 00:34.11 | Cruciformer | you right here is whats wrong with the world today. |
| 00:34.11 | Wobin | because they make her all that money |
| 00:34.18 | Lopeppeppy | Romanticizes statuatory rape. That's a big wonderful thing she does there. |
| 00:34.30 | Wobin | Oh now -I'm- responsible for all the horror in the world |
| 00:34.32 | Cruciformer | trying to absolve any semblance of self-control and responsibility for your actions |
| 00:34.40 | Wobin | Thank you Cruciformer for complete and utter fail |
| 00:34.52 | Cruciformer | you need disclaimers for everything when u have a brain that should tell you "STORY != rulebook for healthy relationshiop" |
| 00:34.57 | Wobin | er no |
| 00:35.02 | Wobin | HAve you -SEEN- people today? |
| 00:35.07 | Cruciformer | yes |
| 00:35.10 | Cruciformer | they sicken me |
| 00:35.15 | Wobin | Then what the fuck is wrong with you? |
| 00:35.19 | roasticle__ | i saw a person today |
| 00:35.23 | Cruciformer | and they got this way by the slow erosion of any personal responibility |
| 00:35.30 | Wobin | uhuh |
| 00:35.33 | roasticle__ | it was strange |
| 00:35.35 | Cruciformer | and wanting a freakin disclaimer on a fiction book is part of that erosion imho. |
| 00:35.41 | Wobin | so what about Stephanie Meyer's personal responsibility? |
| 00:35.43 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, they do sicken me too. Love the way they write it, and it becomes "okay". You're eroding HER responsibility for her crap. |
| 00:36.03 | Wobin | I don't want a freakin disclaimer on a fiction book |
| 00:36.09 | Cruciformer | if she was writing as a child psychologist, a work of non-fiction, youd have a case. |
| 00:36.13 | Wobin | I want Stephanie Meyer to take responsibility for her fiction book |
| 00:36.16 | Cruciformer | but its a freakin fantasy story for gods sake. |
| 00:36.26 | Cruciformer | i dont get it |
| 00:36.33 | Wobin | Cruciformer: If it weren't such an obvious self insertion, I'd agree |
| 00:36.41 | Lopeppeppy | It's a nasty twisted fantasy that she panders to teenages with morality that is not fully developed. |
| 00:36.47 | Cruciformer | what do u mean by "self insertion" |
| 00:36.51 | Coren{de} | rofl, morality |
| 00:36.58 | Wobin | Have you heard of the Mary Sue concept? |
| 00:37.08 | Cruciformer | no wossat? |
| 00:37.14 | Lopeppeppy | The entire thing is HER. It's all about her, and her fantasies, and what she wants. |
| 00:37.16 | Wobin | lemme see if I can get a reference |
| 00:37.21 | NightHawkTheSan1 | wiki it |
| 00:37.27 | Cruciformer | Ok wait back up a second here |
| 00:37.31 | Cruciformer | let me give u an example |
| 00:37.36 | Wobin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue |
| 00:37.41 | Cruciformer | did u ever read Anne Rice's "Claiming of Beauty" series? |
| 00:37.42 | Lopeppeppy | It's a wishful biography. Mary Sueism is the worst way to write a book. |
| 00:37.47 | Cruciformer | all about bdsm and shit? |
| 00:37.51 | Wobin | No |
| 00:37.54 | Lopeppeppy | That was written for adults, Cruci. |
| 00:37.54 | Cruciformer | thats all about her sexual desires |
| 00:38.04 | Lopeppeppy | I have no problem with smut, trust me, I write it. For adults. |
| 00:38.08 | Cruciformer | is she responsible for every freak that gets their spank on? |
| 00:38.10 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Lopeppeppy: s/a book.// |
| 00:38.10 | Lopeppeppy | About adults, not about statuatory rape. |
| 00:38.48 | Wobin | Cause really, no matter how you twist it, Edward is not a teenager |
| 00:38.56 | Wobin | he's a frickin ages old vampire |
| 00:38.56 | Corrodias | how much responsibility is there to take for writing bad fiction? not much, i say. |
| 00:39.13 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I hear you NHTS. Most agents I know wouldn't accept that crap. |
| 00:39.15 | Corrodias | oh no, the story isn't terribly impressive... |
| 00:39.29 | Wobin | Corrodias: it's about the target audience |
| 00:40.04 | Corrodias | people who read bad fiction? kids? what? |
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| 00:40.09 | Wobin | You want parents to take responsiblity for raising their children |
| 00:40.19 | Lopeppeppy | Target it to adults, no problem. Target it to teens, I have a problem. |
| 00:40.25 | Wobin | That's why the Twimoms freak me out so much |
| 00:40.34 | Corrodias | "<Wobin> So because she writes some self insertion fic, she is completely morally absolved from anything her writing causes?" |
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| 00:40.41 | Wobin | For gods sake, that sort of relationship is -not- what you want your child to have |
| 00:40.48 | Lopeppeppy | *shudder* |
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| 00:40.56 | Silversage | Pff. |
| 00:40.56 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Corrodias: don't generalize kids as people who don't read good fiction. :( |
| 00:40.58 | Corrodias | morally? who knows. ask god when he shows up. |
| 00:41.08 | Lopeppeppy | My niece thinks it's totally cool, she wants to meet a guy like him. I scream inside. |
| 00:41.12 | Corrodias | NHTS: i didn't. i'm trying to get a fix on who he thinks the target audience is. |
| 00:41.23 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Corrodias: ah, misinterpreted. |
| 00:41.37 | Wobin | Corrodias: Eh, I'm stating that I find Stephanie Meyer morally repugnant for selling this crap as being an appropriate relationship descriptor |
| 00:41.39 | Lopeppeppy | Wobin, who do you think the target audience is for the Twilight series? |
| 00:41.47 | Wobin | Teenagers |
| 00:41.49 | Corrodias | a descriptor? isn't it just a story? |
| 00:41.55 | Lopeppeppy | asks questions straight out! |
| 00:41.59 | Wobin | That's giving it too much credit =P |
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| 00:42.04 | Lopeppeppy | No, it's not just a story. It's never just a story. |
| 00:42.15 | Corrodias | didn't the Addams Family sort of glorify strange, self-destructive behavior? |
| 00:42.17 | Corrodias | and that was a family show |
| 00:42.38 | bleeter | don't think the addams family had 100 y/o's fucking 15 y/o's |
| 00:42.48 | Lopeppeppy | Aired in a time when kids were in bed at 6 and their parents were the ones watching TV |
| 00:42.51 | Wobin | Oh? The only -real- relationship was between Gomez and Morticia. And their relationship was quite stable |
| 00:42.58 | Corrodias | is this about sex? |
| 00:43.01 | Lopeppeppy | And yeah... sex crimes not on Addams Family. |
| 00:43.07 | Wobin | well, statutory rape |
| 00:43.09 | Corrodias | i get it |
| 00:43.14 | Lopeppeppy | That is not sex. It's a crime. |
| 00:43.33 | Lopeppeppy | And to play it up as romantic and awwwwww... that's just horrid. |
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| 00:44.31 | Lopeppeppy | ANYWAY... anyone who wants to watch it with me, I'm only about 6 minutes in. |
| 00:44.35 | Corrodias | while i can understand your viewpoint of "people doing stupid things because they read something is the fault of the writer"... well, i wouldn't have it any other way. |
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| 00:44.47 | Lopeppeppy | Go look up "rape culture", study for a while. Fiction like this being "acceptable" is why rape is still "acceptable" in society. |
| 00:44.49 | NightHawkTheSan1 | watch what? |
| 00:44.53 | Wobin | Twilight |
| 00:45.02 | NightHawkTheSan1 | shudders |
| 00:45.04 | Lopeppeppy | Twilight, NHTS. This all started because I'm watching Twilight. |
| 00:45.06 | Corrodias | my friend, we have far worse fiction |
| 00:45.11 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ~comfort Lopeppeppy |
| 00:45.12 | purl | There, there, Lopeppeppy. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 00:45.12 | Corrodias | worse in these same ways |
| 00:45.25 | Corrodias | they're acceptable to certain communities who don't consider real-life activities acceptable. |
| 00:45.29 | Corrodias | i think you're confusing cause and effect. |
| 00:45.34 | Wobin | Corrodias: I wouldn't have so much problem with it if it weren't so popular |
| 00:45.35 | Lopeppeppy | Doens't mean I can't despise this one, just because there's worse. Teens deserve to learn better moral lessons. |
| 00:45.41 | Coren{de} | I don't get it where you get from that rape is "acceptable" in society, for any society |
| 00:45.52 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 00:45.54 | Corrodias | sure they do, but i'm not blaming the writer for capitalizing on other people being idiots |
| 00:45.55 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Wobin: er, what? |
| 00:46.11 | Wobin | It's more about the impact of the story, I guess |
| 00:46.20 | Wobin | If she sold no books, and noone read it, she'd have no impact |
| 00:46.39 | Lopeppeppy | If a writer for teenagers romanticizes a criminal act, I'm not gonna be behind that. Whether it's drugs, guns, or statuatory rape. |
| 00:46.47 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Wobin: right, but it wouldn't change the content |
| 00:46.58 | Wobin | yeah |
| 00:47.12 | Lopeppeppy | None of that was in HP, but people burn it for being too violent, too unreal... Wish I could get the book burners onto series like Twilight. |
| 00:47.22 | NightHawkTheSan1 | if the problem is with the author's work being 'irresponsible' morally, then its popularity shouldn't affect your opinion :P |
| 00:47.25 | Corrodias | i never thought i'd take a position in favor of Twilight |
| 00:47.35 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSan1: It's personal opinion =P |
| 00:47.38 | Corrodias | but i oppose you on every point, Lop. |
| 00:47.44 | Lopeppeppy | Market it to adults, I wouldn't have an issue. |
| 00:47.54 | Wobin | a large part of it is the content |
| 00:47.56 | Corrodias | be assured that i don't have any actual influence to stop your agenda |
| 00:48.06 | Wobin | but some of it is also "WTF is she writing this marysue crap" |
| 00:48.20 | bleeter | so I hear the latest fun way to grief people |
| 00:48.21 | Corrodias | but the freedom of communication will be my cause regardless |
| 00:48.26 | Wobin | so yeah, if she weren't so popular, I'd feel less about it =) I'd still decry the content, though |
| 00:48.38 | bleeter | is to check out the raid leader of your WG party, then go steal all their raids and clean them up/sell them on |
| 00:48.44 | bleeter | (to change topic) |
| 00:48.54 | bleeter | as WG raid is a raid, not a BG group |
| 00:48.55 | Lopeppeppy | How do you steal the raids, bleeter? |
| 00:49.03 | Lopeppeppy | I've never really understood that sort of griefing. |
| 00:49.11 | Wobin | take another raid into the instance and complete it |
| 00:49.16 | Wobin | with you as the raid leader |
| 00:49.22 | Wobin | thus cleaning out the raidlock ID |
| 00:49.38 | bleeter | basically, blizz created auto-raid with WG, instead of auto BG grouping |
| 00:49.55 | bleeter | thus people can have raids cleaned out from underneath them merely by being auto-assigned raid leadership in WG |
| 00:50.21 | Lopeppeppy | That's odd. Just because I'm in WG with someone, they can steal my....Tempest Keep run or something? |
| 00:50.28 | bleeter | some poor guild's not getting even a look at Yogg0 |
| 00:50.44 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: if you're leader, yeah they can take your Ulduar progression or whatever you're currently saved on |
| 00:50.49 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19377970107&sid=1 |
| 00:50.59 | Lopeppeppy | Why is it not limited to just the ID they were in on? |
| 00:52.04 | bleeter | afaik it is, they just have to leap inside the 'right' one during WG... so do it with the higher instances for maximum 'lol' |
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| 00:53.01 | Wobin | " The problem is when we go to do 5 man pugs people pass us lead while they sit right outside the zone line for Ulduar and zone in after passing lead. We have no time to react." |
| 00:53.23 | Wobin | same for WG raids I assume |
| 00:53.28 | Wobin | it makes sense |
| 00:53.42 | bleeter | some of that thread is fail, but there's some sensible posts there that do kinda point out a nasty issue |
| 00:53.49 | bleeter | WG should use BG grouping |
| 00:53.56 | Lopeppeppy | So they're somehow using API to get the raid id? And then somehow applying it to themselves? |
| 00:54.14 | Wobin | WG is a raid, so if the raid leader of that has an ulduar instance, then stepping into ulduar with that toon as a raid leader would put you in their ulduar raid id |
| 00:54.42 | Lopeppeppy | Ah ha. Now I get it. Blame the cold meds, it's been a while since I've pvp'd, I didn't grasp that at first. |
| 00:54.50 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: no probs mate :) |
| 00:55.07 | Shirik | Why is this an issue |
| 00:55.07 | bleeter | it's a classy exploit, to be sure :) |
| 00:55.21 | Shirik | oh people are actually stealing raid IDs |
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| 00:55.27 | kd3 | yes |
| 00:55.28 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 00:55.28 | Wobin | yeah |
| 00:55.34 | Shirik | I thought people were getting mad that they were getting saved |
| 00:55.39 | Wobin | Screwing up raid's attempts at yogg0 |
| 00:55.41 | Shirik | I'm like "you have this huge box in front of your face" |
| 00:55.49 | bleeter | ~lart Shirik |
| 00:55.49 | purl | send killer squirrels to attack Shirik |
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| 00:58.31 | tem | Shirik, ping |
| 00:58.49 | Shirik | tem, pong |
| 00:59.00 | tem | I have a minion problem |
| 00:59.11 | tem | I have an ouf layout |
| 00:59.20 | tem | it won't update because it is waiting for ouf to update |
| 00:59.44 | tem | I have edited my local copy of ouf so I have it set to be ignored |
| 00:59.47 | tem | so it can't update |
| 00:59.52 | tem | (and I don't want it to) |
| 01:00.12 | tem | but I have no way to force my ouf layout to update since it's just waiting on ouf |
| 01:00.32 | Shirik | known issue |
| 01:00.36 | Shirik | that's about all I can say |
| 01:00.45 | tem | cool |
| 01:01.40 | Shirik | Has anyone here ever used a mercurial repository on google code? |
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| 01:09.34 | NightHawkTheSan1 | huh, didn't know google supported Hg |
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| 01:12.30 | Shirik | hey ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:12.44 | Shirik | weren't you the one who was saying git was supposed to perform better than hg? |
| 01:12.51 | Arrowmaster` | it does |
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| 01:13.19 | Shirik | The operation of cloning the remote repository (similar to a initial checkout in traditional version control systems) averaged 8.1 seconds for Mercurial and 178 seconds for Git (22 times slower). A single file in the repository was then changed 50 times and the clients pulled the updates. In this case, Mercurial took 1.5 seconds and Git required 18 seconds (12 times slower). When the Git protocol was used instead |
| 01:13.23 | Shirik | An analysis performed by Google |
| 01:13.35 | Shirik | (on HTTP) |
| 01:13.40 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 01:13.49 | Arrowmaster | HTTP isnt ment to be used seriously for git |
| 01:14.08 | Shirik | for Google's infrastructure they considered it required |
| 01:14.08 | Arrowmaster | its a bastard child dumb transport method |
| 01:14.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 01:14.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Keep in mind that google is really an HTTP company |
| 01:14.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Not an SSH company |
| 01:14.58 | Shirik | right |
| 01:15.00 | ScytheBlade1 | It makes sense for them to add hg considering it was meant for HTTP, when git was not |
| 01:15.01 | Adys | fuck yes. |
| 01:15.01 | Arrowmaster | how is access to their svn repos done? |
| 01:15.03 | Shirik | which is why they considered them important :) |
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| 01:15.09 | Adys | native 64bit chrome |
| 01:15.14 | Adys | with native 64bit flash |
| 01:15.14 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: http |
| 01:15.24 | Adys | GUYS MY BROWSER DOESNT SUCK |
| 01:15.33 | Arrowmaster | Adys: native 64 bit flash is fucking broken |
| 01:15.48 | Adys | .. more broken than 32bit flash under 32bit wrapper? |
| 01:15.49 | Adys | no |
| 01:16.10 | ScytheBlade1 | s/native 64 bit// |
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| 01:16.22 | Adys | that i can agree with |
| 01:16.48 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: i know public anon access is done with http but write access is done with http too? |
| 01:16.59 | Shirik | https |
| 01:17.17 | Shirik | any write access is done with https, other access with http |
| 01:18.28 | bleeter | http ain't meant to be used for much more than simple telephone books |
| 01:18.35 | bleeter | none of this ajax json crap shite |
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| 01:18.43 | Arrowmaster | maybe google could have sponsored some work on making the git http access better, people have been meaning to make it a smart transport for a while but its just a wishlist thing that nobody uses seriously enough to get much time devoted to it |
| 01:19.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 01:19.24 | Shirik | I expect that in the near future tbh |
| 01:19.27 | Shirik | gsoc or something |
| 01:19.40 | Arrowmaster | its been a gsoc project for many years in a row |
| 01:19.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I dunno, how popular is github? |
| 01:19.45 | ScytheBlade1 | It gets along just fine with ssh |
| 01:19.46 | Arrowmaster | fails every year |
| 01:19.53 | Shirik | it has? |
| 01:19.55 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 01:20.02 | Shirik | obviously it's because git sucks |
| 01:20.10 | Adys | well if its a gsoc project and no one does it ... |
| 01:20.21 | Arrowmaster | no its because the students that work on gsoc are flakes |
| 01:20.25 | Bruners | i kinda started to like git |
| 01:20.28 | joeymarx | After calling QueryAuctionItems('linen cloth') is it normal for AUCTION_ITEM_LIST_UPDATE to fire several times instead of 1 time? |
| 01:20.30 | Shirik | :( I almost worked on gsoc |
| 01:20.34 | ScytheBlade1 | this is one of the few times I really wish I could just /kick Shirik for trolling :P |
| 01:20.40 | Shirik | :D |
| 01:20.46 | Adys | joeymarx: a lot of events fire tons times too many |
| 01:21.00 | tekkub | git over http is SUH LOW |
| 01:21.05 | tekkub | that is all |
| 01:21.18 | Adys | s/over http // |
| 01:21.19 | Bruners | github is slow |
| 01:21.28 | Arrowmaster | i would like to see a comparision of gsoc projects that produce meaningful results vs ones that dont even produce a result |
| 01:21.29 | Shirik | oh snap tekkub |
| 01:21.40 | Shirik | Wasn't Lua in nmap a gsoc project? |
| 01:21.41 | Adys | thing with gsoc projects |
| 01:21.46 | tekkub | the website is, but the git daemon is still fast, and that's what matters |
| 01:21.49 | Adys | they often get done |
| 01:21.51 | Adys | but |
| 01:21.55 | tekkub | new server hardware very soon |
| 01:22.07 | Adys | they dont get implemented because the owner of the project is all "meh actually its useless gtfo" |
| 01:22.15 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:22.18 | Adys | and the students dont exactly care because they get paid anyway |
| 01:22.27 | Adys | so theres nobody to push the features |
| 01:22.30 | Arrowmaster | Adys: or the code sucks too much to get added? |
| 01:22.42 | Adys | that doesnt happen so often tbh |
| 01:22.48 | Adys | i mean |
| 01:22.50 | Adys | even if it does |
| 01:22.53 | Arrowmaster | it has with git i think |
| 01:23.00 | Adys | everyone's all like "oh well it sucks LETS RECODE IT FROM SCRATCH" |
| 01:23.20 | joeymarx | Adys: so whats a good way to make sure my event handling code only gets executed 1 time? |
| 01:23.44 | Adys | joeymarx: if the event always gets fired x times, give it a counter |
| 01:23.47 | Adys | otherwise, a timer |
| 01:23.50 | Adys | or use another event |
| 01:24.07 | jaxdahl | if has_been_excuted then do stuff end |
| 01:24.19 | bleeter | I'd rather see a southern hemisphere friendly GSoC |
| 01:24.22 | Adys | except thats not a good thing to do when playing with updates |
| 01:24.24 | Adys | er |
| 01:24.27 | Adys | EVENT_X_UPDATE |
| 01:24.48 | jaxdahl | if event then do stuff unregister_event end |
| 01:25.19 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: were is there even info about googlecode and Hg? |
| 01:25.30 | Adys | when playing with ev_update you usually dont want that jaxdahl :) |
| 01:25.42 | Adys | because you want your code to be fired on every updater |
| 01:25.43 | Adys | -r |
| 01:25.45 | Shirik | http://code.google.com/p/support/w/list?q=label:Mercurial |
| 01:30.34 | Adys | is it me, or are there like TONS more youtube vids with HD enabled? |
| 01:30.56 | bleeter | hahah @ jaymohr37: "If I ever see a snow leopard I will kick him in his nuts as hard as I can." |
| 01:31.29 | Shirik | Adys: Is it just me, or do tons of people upload HD enabled video, but not actually have quality to make it worth anything |
| 01:31.47 | Adys | No |
| 01:31.57 | Adys | people dont "upload hd enabled videos" |
| 01:32.03 | Lopeppeppy | Hd is the new cool, they do it because they have the feature, not because they know how to make it awesome. |
| 01:32.12 | Adys | again |
| 01:32.13 | Adys | people dont "upload hd enabled videos" |
| 01:32.29 | Adys | youtube enables HD mode on them depending on the quality its been uploaded at |
| 01:33.25 | Adys | http://www.google.com/search?q=ascii+art thats awesome |
| 01:33.30 | Shirik | how do they define "quality" ? |
| 01:33.41 | Adys | Ive no idea |
| 01:37.30 | kd3 | size? (e.g... greater than 480i?) |
| 01:38.03 | Adys | likely resolution, size, bandwidth ... |
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| 01:42.47 | Adys | someone linked http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0xsqV3zk1Y on the petrified wooden moonrock article |
| 01:43.02 | Adys | I dont think I've ever done a face like the one i just did for such a long time |
| 01:43.14 | kd3 | lmao |
| 01:43.19 | kd3 | it's log! |
| 01:43.24 | kd3 | haven't heard that in years |
| 01:43.47 | kd3 | sad that it doesn't have the video |
| 01:43.48 | Adys | Yeah I havent heard it in a pretty long time either |
| 01:45.41 | Lopeppeppy | <3 for Ren and Stimpy |
| 01:46.48 | Adys | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1480 |
| 01:47.05 | Wobin | Adys: hehe =) |
| 01:47.10 | Wobin | You're HIRED! |
| 01:47.29 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/173823986 |
| 01:48.18 | Shirik | seriously |
| 01:48.27 | Cloudwolf | lol at questionable coneten adys |
| 01:48.34 | Shirik | I don't get garfield minus garfield |
| 01:48.39 | Shirik | ever |
| 01:48.43 | Adys | HE DOESNT GET YOU EITHER |
| 01:48.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Then you have not read enough garfield |
| 01:48.55 | Shirik | I don't think anyone has ever linked one which I actually thought "wow, that was a reasonable waste of 5 seconds of my life" |
| 01:48.59 | ScytheBlade1 | And by enough I mean "anyway" |
| 01:49.07 | ScytheBlade1 | err |
| 01:49.08 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 01:49.09 | ScytheBlade1 | *any |
| 01:49.51 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: youtube is a big black box that nobody understands, whatever you upload to it gets transcoded and scaled nomatter what |
| 01:54.22 | Shirik | how to know a thread has been severely censored: |
| 01:54.25 | Shirik | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19377970107&sid=1&pageNo=3 |
| 01:54.39 | Shirik | the page barely scrolls at all before going to the next page :P |
| 01:54.47 | kd3 | that's more censored than it was when I last saw it |
| 01:54.53 | Shirik | look at the numbers, lol |
| 01:54.54 | Corrodias | lol |
| 01:55.00 | Shirik | 43, 48, 50, 55 |
| 01:55.27 | Shirik | omg, 55, 56, 64 |
| 01:56.00 | Lopeppeppy | Some people got themselves a vacation and a post wipe, for unhelpful trolling-attitude |
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| 02:17.55 | NightHawkTheSan1 | *blink* http://lineout.thestranger.com/lineout/archives/2009/08/28/i-got-an-mp3-powered-vibrator-in-the-mail-today |
| 02:18.46 | Adys | is there an option for tar to copy symlinks as real files? |
| 02:19.25 | NightHawkTheSan1 | man tar |
| 02:19.36 | ReAn | lol NH |
| 02:19.59 | NightHawkTheSan1 | (that was NOT a mistell, btw :P) |
| 02:20.26 | Adys | those are very old |
| 02:20.32 | Adys | search purl logs for ohmibod |
| 02:20.43 | Adys | kalroth will remember them too. |
| 02:21.18 | Adys | ah |
| 02:21.19 | Adys | -h |
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| 02:32.09 | Cloudwolf | nighthawkthesan1 funny and i have to agree with comment 7 now D: |
| 02:34.38 | Cairenn | oh hot damn! cod4 and that? mmmmmmmmmmm |
| 02:35.03 | Cloudwolf | i had to agree witht hat comment cairenn i had to |
| 02:35.10 | Cloudwolf | it was a verry good argument |
| 02:35.23 | Cairenn | nods in vehement agreement |
| 02:36.09 | Lopeppeppy | Rockin' to your favorite songs takes on a whole new meaning. |
| 02:36.30 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: I hadn't showed you those before? I saw them ages ago ;) |
| 02:37.27 | Cairenn | gives a whole new meaning to the word "playlist" ;) |
| 02:37.39 | Cairenn | http://www.ohmibod.com/naughtibod.html |
| 02:37.44 | Cairenn | comes in cherry red, too |
| 02:38.13 | Cairenn | (among other colours) |
| 02:38.53 | Lopeppeppy | wishful thinking red, you mean? |
| 02:39.01 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:39.20 | Cloudwolf | D: vibrator to music makes me kinda almost want a vagina.... |
| 02:39.37 | Lopeppeppy | Borrow one, Cloudwolf |
| 02:39.44 | Cloudwolf | lol nah |
| 02:40.21 | tekkub | why do you need.... nevermind |
| 02:40.32 | NightHawkTheSan1 | chuckles |
| 02:40.49 | NightHawkTheSan1 | "need" is a fairly relative term |
| 02:40.50 | malreth | high fives tekkub |
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| 02:41.52 | malreth | masturbating must be more fun for chicks |
| 02:41.59 | malreth | it always looks that way in the videos |
| 02:42.07 | Shirik | Now you know, and knowing's half the battle |
| 02:42.16 | Lopeppeppy | Can be, malreth, it's all in the mind. |
| 02:42.17 | tekkub | oh wait... |
| 02:42.54 | tekkub | http://img.skitch.com/20090805-g4a2qhttwij8n2jr9t552efn3k.png |
| 02:43.02 | tekkub | "knowing's half the battle" |
| 02:43.59 | NightHawkTheSan1 | >.> http://www.fartparty.org/2008/01/03/whiskey-drink-creations/ |
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| 03:00.33 | Wobin | heh awesome |
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| 03:00.58 | Wobin | the top two healers in this 25 uld are at the same overheal |
| 03:01.08 | Wobin | around 36% |
| 03:01.19 | Wobin | (I'm coming second!) |
| 03:01.26 | Shirik | lol |
| 03:01.32 | Shirik | obviously brits are uneducated |
| 03:01.36 | Lopeppeppy | Not bad overheal, all around. |
| 03:01.38 | Wobin | Shammy healz <3 |
| 03:01.49 | Shirik | http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en vs http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en_GB |
| 03:01.54 | Wobin | third in heals is a pally |
| 03:02.02 | Shirik | English version: Attribution — You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work). |
| 03:02.04 | Wobin | 65% OH =) |
| 03:02.04 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, that explains it, whether it' the shammie overhealing, or the paladin. Same cause. :) |
| 03:02.14 | Shirik | British version: Attribution — You must give the original author credit. |
| 03:05.31 | Wobin | hm |
| 03:05.34 | Cairenn | un, Shirik? |
| 03:05.36 | Wobin | I should get the other chainheal totem |
| 03:05.40 | Cairenn | the brits are the english :p |
| 03:05.53 | Shirik | hey |
| 03:05.56 | Shirik | don't look at me |
| 03:06.00 | Shirik | it's their terminology |
| 03:06.16 | Shirik | there's also a canadian version btw |
| 03:06.28 | Shirik | however you get the cool, educated, english version |
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| 03:06.58 | Lopeppeppy | Educated, he says |
| 03:08.33 | End | what do glyphs stack in? 20? |
| 03:08.47 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy doesn't think I'm educated :( |
| 03:08.48 | Lopeppeppy | I think so... |
| 03:08.50 | Lopeppeppy | Or is it 5. |
| 03:08.58 | End | I hope its not only five |
| 03:09.06 | Arrowmaster | sweet i crashed xchat with a ruby plugin |
| 03:09.37 | Lopeppeppy | It's funny that british english is educated |
| 03:10.16 | Shirik | notice how she didn't disagree |
| 03:10.56 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, you're picking on a girl hopped up on Sudafed! Be nice. |
| 03:11.32 | Shirik | cowers beneath Lopeppeppy's claws and teeths |
| 03:12.14 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. *yawn* Does this movie ever end? |
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| 03:16.08 | Shirik | ok, time to get ready for launch |
| 03:16.13 | Shirik | be back in an hour or so :P |
| 03:16.17 | Arrowmaster | you know this would be so much easier to debug if xchat would stay open and give me an error message instead of just crashing |
| 03:16.21 | Lopeppeppy | Enjoy, Shirik |
| 03:16.27 | Lopeppeppy | I'd love to see the results |
| 03:17.58 | Shirik|AFK | well I'm not going to the pad this time sadly |
| 03:18.01 | Shirik|AFK | we're just going to go to the beach |
| 03:18.07 | Shirik|AFK | but it should be a good view still |
| 03:18.10 | Shirik|AFK | we'll see how it goes |
| 03:18.22 | Lopeppeppy | *fingers crossed* |
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| 03:28.09 | NightHawkTheSan1 | amusing: http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo309/IrishNinja456/Obama-EconomyZombies.gif |
| 03:32.42 | Gnarfoz | more amusing: I was talking with someone about the game that picture is based on Teamspeak just 30 minutes ago, for totally different reasons |
| 03:33.55 | kd3 | lmao... fark, subsequent headlines: "Swine flu not present in schools [Florida]", "Swine flu present in all schools [Florida]" |
| 03:40.30 | Cairenn | Gnarfoz: lol |
| 03:42.22 | Lopeppeppy | Oh my god this movie just goes on and on, it never ends! |
| 03:42.42 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn: we were talking about the Wii and Nintendo's recent approach to gaming, bringing it to a wider audience enables you to even get, say, your grandparents to play video games... and then he mentioned that game, and how it is totally the opposite ;D |
| 03:42.57 | Cairenn | I was laughing at the mod :p |
| 03:43.00 | Gnarfoz | it == gaming |
| 03:43.02 | Gnarfoz | wut ;o |
| 03:43.10 | Gnarfoz | there are more on the way btw ;) |
| 03:43.35 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Lopeppeppy: you're still watching it? >.> |
| 03:43.41 | Lopeppeppy | kiss kiss, night night! |
| 03:43.47 | Cairenn | night Lopeppeppy |
| 03:43.50 | Cairenn | sweet dreams |
| 03:43.52 | Cairenn | feel better |
| 03:43.58 | Lopeppeppy | NHTS, I kept pausing to go take meds, deal with cat stuff, etc. Now, bedtime! And mroe drugs. |
| 03:44.04 | Lopeppeppy | You too, Cairenn. Sleep well. |
| 03:44.08 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ah, ciao :) |
| 03:44.09 | *** part/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-67-246-40-12.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:48.06 | kd3 | mmm... shuttle launching soon |
| 03:48.22 | NightHawkTheSan1 | why is windows so bad at actually killing processes >< |
| 03:49.52 | Gnarfoz | kd3: shuttle to where? |
| 03:49.57 | kd3 | the ISS |
| 03:50.00 | NightHawkTheSan1 | the moon! |
| 03:50.10 | Gnarfoz | oh, THE Shuttle, heh |
| 03:50.27 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSan1: that'd make things more interesting again, for sure :) |
| 03:51.01 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Gnarfoz: i can dream, can't i? :( |
| 03:51.08 | Gnarfoz | certainly |
| 03:53.18 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn: ah, now I get it... the .lua filename I chose for MonkeyToggler is... not ordinary |
| 03:53.25 | Cairenn | :) |
| 03:53.40 | Cairenn | that was indeed what I was giggling at |
| 03:53.55 | Bruners | http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/ |
| 03:54.44 | kd3 | 5 minutes to go |
| 03:57.34 | malreth | I'VE GOT BUTTER |
| 03:59.00 | kd3 | grr... my directv feed is 15 seconds delayed |
| 03:59.58 | Cairenn | I'm at 2:25 |
| 04:00.03 | Bruners | same |
| 04:01.19 | Cairenn | 1min |
| 04:01.39 | Bruners | think you are about 10 seconds before me Cairenn |
| 04:01.59 | Bruners | but thats to be expected i guess since im way over here :P |
| 04:02.11 | Bruners | (norway) |
| 04:02.12 | Cairenn | and I'm 'way up here' |
| 04:02.15 | Cairenn | Canada |
| 04:02.21 | Cairenn | liftoff |
| 04:02.47 | Cairenn | heh, wonder if I can see it |
| 04:03.16 | Bruners | i wouldnt know what way to look |
| 04:04.14 | NightHawkTheSan1 | wierd.. two actors on Eureka both cameoing on Warhouse 13.. |
| 04:04.51 | malreth | looks like a good launch |
| 04:05.36 | Cairenn | yup |
| 04:06.23 | Bruners | thats some millions up in smoke :P |
| 04:06.24 | kd3 | a damn good way to spend it |
| 04:06.24 | NightHawkTheSan1 | thats a terrible pun |
| 04:06.48 | Bruners | wtb norwegian space program! |
| 04:07.13 | NightHawkTheSan1 | meh, wtb better global cooperation |
| 04:07.18 | Bruners | or taht |
| 04:08.12 | malreth | they should just privatize space flight finally |
| 04:09.35 | Bruners | is there anything stopping private companies doing it? |
| 04:09.48 | kd3 | no |
| 04:09.51 | malreth | governments |
| 04:09.52 | kd3 | looks at the X prize |
| 04:10.30 | malreth | DoD doesn't take too kindly to rockets being shot off. |
| 04:10.58 | malreth | don't think they really have a proper bureaucracy to handle scheduled private space flights |
| 04:12.20 | NightHawkTheSan1 | does anyone? |
| 04:12.50 | malreth | it'd have to be coordinated with nearly every world government, too |
| 04:13.06 | NightHawkTheSan1 | so.. like i said, wtb better global cooperation? |
| 04:13.34 | NightHawkTheSan1 | (not that i remotely support privitization of space/space flight) |
| 04:14.04 | malreth | i think it's about time for it |
| 04:23.14 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn: thanks for lightning fast approvals. :> |
| 04:23.22 | Cairenn | heh, you're welcome |
| 04:29.54 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnagRjxp7v4 |
| 04:30.53 | Ackis | om nom nom nom |
| 04:31.23 | Shirik|AFK | j'ai retourné |
| 04:31.36 | Shirik | Gnarfoz: How do you know it wasn't me :( |
| 04:31.52 | Gnarfoz | --- Shirik|AFK is now known as Shirik |
| 04:31.57 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 04:32.49 | Shirik | so |
| 04:32.53 | Shirik | Cairenn's always here when marked AFK |
| 04:36.36 | Jerub | the government gets (understandably) nervous when ordinary citizens have the ability to drop a nuke sized package anywhere on the earths surface. |
| 04:37.19 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: ping |
| 04:37.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: die |
| 04:37.31 | Shirik | wtb your google account |
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| 04:56.39 | Gnarfoz | srsly |
| 04:56.51 | Gnarfoz | is there something that disables the forced closing of Blizzard UI panels? |
| 04:57.12 | Gnarfoz | e.g. opening the calendar closes everything else, like the guild list |
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| 06:28.59 | industrial | whats an Icy Prism do? |
| 06:29.10 | NightHawkTheSan1 | contain gems |
| 06:29.17 | Shirik | gives you a bunch of gems |
| 06:29.22 | industrial | but it takes gesm to make it? |
| 06:29.23 | NightHawkTheSan1 | its like brilliant glass |
| 06:29.33 | NightHawkTheSan1 | you get better gems |
| 06:29.47 | industrial | :o |
| 06:29.58 | industrial | so its a sink for my green gems? |
| 06:30.07 | NightHawkTheSan1 | yeah, basically |
| 06:31.14 | Shirik | you can give them to me if you don't want them |
| 06:31.39 | NightHawkTheSan1 | personally i used them for JC dailies, but *shrug* |
| 06:33.24 | industrial | yea but I get way way way more then I use |
| 06:33.26 | industrial | from prospecting |
| 06:33.33 | industrial | I hit 400 yesterday, 425 now |
| 06:34.06 | NightHawkTheSan1 | fair enough, i'm lw/jc so i didn't prospect too much |
| 06:34.31 | industrial | you just buy the raw gems? |
| 06:34.43 | NightHawkTheSan1 | if i need to, yeah |
| 06:34.47 | industrial | gotta wait til 450 with the epic gems :\ (and my dalaran tokens I hope) |
| 06:35.26 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i've got alts with mining so sometimes i'd do mining runs with them and prospect that, so i had a small stockpile |
| 06:41.22 | tem | so, at level 20 |
| 06:41.27 | tem | where do you go next? |
| 06:41.34 | NightHawkTheSane | ... from where? :P |
| 06:41.43 | tem | bloodmist isle |
| 06:41.52 | tem | we want nothing to do with darkshore/ashenvale |
| 06:42.04 | NightHawkTheSane | heh. uh.. wetlands maybe? |
| 06:42.39 | Codayus_ | Tourguide is your friend. |
| 06:43.27 | tem | tourguide wants us to do darkshore/ashenvale |
| 06:43.46 | tem | and it can shove that advice right up its ass |
| 06:43.52 | Corrodias | IT GOES |
| 06:43.53 | Corrodias | IN THE ASS |
| 06:43.55 | NightHawkTheSane | duskwood/wetlands i think are your other options |
| 06:43.56 | zenzelezz | Duskwood? |
| 06:43.57 | Corrodias | parties hard |
| 06:43.57 | Codayus_ | Hmm. Agreed; terrible zone. |
| 06:43.59 | zenzelezz | bah! |
| 06:44.09 | NightHawkTheSane | wins! |
| 06:44.23 | Corrodias | you should go to the Barrens. as a horde member. |
| 06:44.31 | Codayus_ | Redridge? |
| 06:44.35 | Codayus_ | Wetlands is probably too high. |
| 06:44.41 | NightHawkTheSane | "hi, guys, those elves suck, can i join you?" |
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| 06:45.09 | NightHawkTheSane | "uh, we have elves too, you damn space goat.." |
| 06:45.21 | NightHawkTheSane | shuts up |
| 06:45.32 | industrial | <+tem> and it can shove that advice right up its ass |
| 06:45.39 | industrial | so true I hate darkshore |
| 06:46.03 | industrial | you can try duskwood |
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| 06:46.59 | Codayus_ | Duskwood is my favorite vanilla zone, but it might be a bit high level. Although maybe not... |
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| 06:53.26 | Fisker | slaps industrial around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:57.04 | industrial | beat me harder felipe` |
| 06:57.07 | industrial | lolwat |
| 06:57.10 | industrial | Fisker |
| 06:57.18 | industrial | *facepalm* |
| 06:57.26 | NightHawkTheSane | heh |
| 06:59.05 | Fisker | slaps industrial around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:59.28 | Shirik | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large #wowace |
| 07:01.44 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:02.03 | Fisker | there's nothing you can do |
| 07:05.02 | industrial | oo I got a purple from my first Icy Prism |
| 07:11.30 | industrial | I'm bored, what mobs make most money grinding them |
| 07:13.05 | the-golem | i need to do something new |
| 07:13.20 | the-golem | heroics over and over again gets boring :P |
| 07:13.33 | industrial | learn how to play the flute |
| 07:13.38 | industrial | (ask Fisker) |
| 07:13.46 | the-golem | Champions comes out the first. |
| 07:14.55 | the-golem | Having played the closed beta, I'm not really impressed, with the game overall |
| 07:16.25 | the-golem | I really like the character creator, and the intro/tutorial is nice |
| 07:16.49 | the-golem | doesn't really live up to the hype I was expecting from the champions RPG |
| 07:16.59 | the-golem | *shrug* |
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| 07:25.42 | batrick | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19595170013&sid=1 |
| 07:25.44 | batrick | lololol |
| 07:26.31 | Adys | Characters who are in vehicles now receive quest credit for the daily Call to Arms quest. |
| 07:26.31 | Adys | rofl |
| 07:27.04 | batrick | Does svnadmin support user repositories? That is, I could look at user X's local repository here: svn://svn.host.com/~X/project? |
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| 07:27.49 | zenzelezz | local repository? |
| 07:27.55 | Shirik | batrick: What? |
| 07:27.56 | zenzelezz | his working copy? |
| 07:28.02 | Shirik | why are you trying to use svnadmin to do that |
| 07:28.20 | Wobin | woo |
| 07:28.22 | Wobin | windows7 |
| 07:28.26 | Wobin | relatively unscathed |
| 07:28.32 | Shirik | yet |
| 07:28.42 | Wobin | I give it a few hours =) |
| 07:29.33 | Wobin | hm, I need an antivir |
| 07:29.49 | batrick | Liken it to apache looking at a user's web directory ~user/public_html (w/ a module). |
| 07:30.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: and win7 will yell at you INCESSANTLY until you get one |
| 07:30.23 | batrick | Shirik: because a person might want to build a repository himself that is not put somewhere by root |
| 07:30.26 | Wobin | It's been rather ... subtle about it so far |
| 07:30.37 | Wobin | just the icon in the top left with '1' issue |
| 07:30.38 | nevcairiel | you can also disable the warning with like 3 clicks |
| 07:30.49 | Shirik | you mean with svnadmin create, batrick? |
| 07:31.00 | NightHawkTheSane | well, by 'yell' i mean, it just puts a little notification in your task bar that says "hey, dude, you should probably get an av program" |
| 07:31.13 | Shirik | I thought svnadmin always uses an absolute path, not a URL |
| 07:31.49 | batrick | uh no |
| 07:31.52 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane, that's veritably whisper quiet =) |
| 07:32.04 | Wobin | So far so good |
| 07:32.08 | Wobin | and I'm loving the extra ram |
| 07:32.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: i'm really anal about "notifications", so the fact that it was there bothered the crap out of me |
| 07:32.17 | Wobin | tripled his amount of ram with this upgrade |
| 07:32.33 | NightHawkTheSane | i downloaded an AV program mostly to shut it up >.> |
| 07:32.35 | nevcairiel | just open the action center and click the "dont bother me anymore" link below each warning |
| 07:32.47 | nevcairiel | its like, easy |
| 07:32.58 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. although i figured i probably OUGHT to get an av program so :P |
| 07:34.01 | Wobin | this ^ |
| 07:34.02 | batrick | Shirik: svnserve (bash script) specifies the repository path |
| 07:34.07 | Wobin | any suggestions? |
| 07:34.14 | batrick | and that is considered the root, just like /var/www is for most apache installations |
| 07:34.16 | nevcairiel | plain antivir, imho |
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| 07:34.26 | industrial | Fisker: give me entertaining comedy television like whose line is it anyway |
| 07:34.40 | Shirik | batrick: I'm pretty sure svnadmin ignores that |
| 07:34.51 | Shirik | I've always just done svnadmin create /var/svn/repos/whatever |
| 07:35.07 | Shirik | even though svnserve has my svn root as /var/svn/repos |
| 07:35.27 | Shirik | it may just be how I use it, though |
| 07:36.31 | batrick | svnadmins ignores what? |
| 07:36.33 | Gnarfoz | !api GetActionCooldown |
| 07:36.34 | lua_bot | GetActionCooldown: Returns cooldown information about an action (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetActionCooldown) |
| 07:37.14 | batrick | Anyway, I just think it would be nice to allow users to have local repositories |
| 07:37.20 | batrick | for their own projects |
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| 07:39.54 | Shirik | batrick: ignores the repository root |
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| 07:55.34 | Cruciformer | 'lo all |
| 07:55.53 | zenzelezz | don't you use VB comments on us :( |
| 07:56.22 | Cruciformer | that was a bit non-sequiteur but I guess it shows how geeky I am that I got it :P |
| 07:56.30 | NightHawkTheSane | thats not so much a command, more a comment |
| 07:56.35 | NightHawkTheSane | oh wait, you said comment |
| 07:56.39 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 07:56.47 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm going to shut up, and go to leep |
| 07:56.49 | NightHawkTheSane | sleep |
| 07:56.54 | Cruciformer | NHTS needs glasses :) |
| 07:57.08 | NightHawkTheSane | i have them. what i need is sleep :) |
| 07:57.17 | Cruciformer | sleep is for the weak |
| 07:57.21 | Cruciformer | (and I am weak) |
| 07:59.13 | zenzelezz | I tried being a non-conformist coder, but my compiler wouldn't let me :( |
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| 07:59.37 | Cruciformer | sup foxlit |
| 07:59.43 | foxlit | moo? |
| 07:59.48 | Cruciformer | baa |
| 08:00.36 | Cruciformer | grr I need to add raid tracking to my mod so I can implement decay, and I am so not looking forward to it |
| 08:02.51 | zenzelezz | decay? |
| 08:03.20 | Cruciformer | yeah, have people drop spots on a suicide ings list if they dont show up for raids |
| 08:03.47 | Cruciformer | s /ings/kings/ |
| 08:04.09 | Cruciformer | so their position decays as time goes by and they don't show up |
| 08:04.30 | zenzelezz | ah |
| 08:05.09 | Cruciformer | unfortunately suicide kings has no built-in notion of decay like ep/gp does |
| 08:05.32 | industrial | I hate that suicide kings is called suicide kings |
| 08:05.46 | Cruciformer | ok then call it bid-all dkp :) |
| 08:06.16 | Cruciformer | coz thats essentially what it is |
| 08:06.35 | foxlit | But then it's more like a simple priority queue. |
| 08:07.06 | Cruciformer | industrial: you would rather it was called suicide commando? :) |
| 08:07.06 | industrial | I didn't even nkow that, because It's called suicide kings :p |
| 08:07.06 | foxlit | No points involved! |
| 08:07.06 | industrial | Cruciformer: yes! |
| 08:07.09 | Cruciformer | foxlit: suicide kings is *exactly* a priority queue |
| 08:08.16 | industrial | I think it would be nice to have an addon figure out exactly who could use most out of an item eg biggest percentage upgrade |
| 08:08.18 | Cruciformer | btw industrial I was listening to some really old suicide commando ... he really has grown up a lot and some of his old stuff was utter drek |
| 08:08.30 | industrial | then, just give it to those people automatically and move on! |
| 08:08.46 | Cruciformer | industrial: in other words you want to automate loot councils? |
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| 08:09.04 | industrial | dunno :> |
| 08:09.07 | nevcairiel | the idea has been around before, but its really hard to automate that |
| 08:09.21 | nevcairiel | people prefer different stats, need gear depending on their other gear, etc etc |
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| 08:09.45 | NightHawkTheSane | thats not -precisely- a loot council, but it'd be damn hard to reduce an item to a single number representing its upgrade value |
| 08:09.48 | industrial | yeah I understand that |
| 08:10.09 | Cruciformer | nevcairiel: not to mention that you cant even make any decisions based on what they are currently equipped with becuase the new item may be working towards a resist set or high-hit set or whatever that they are not even wearing at the time. |
| 08:10.45 | industrial | but you could take rough equivalency points for everyone of the same class (class of item type eg cloth spellpower dps) in the raid |
| 08:11.04 | industrial | that would want a certain item |
| 08:11.35 | Cruciformer | at the very BEST you could only get a pretty loose approximation of who would benefit most. |
| 08:11.42 | industrial | eg 1ap==0.9sp for enhancement shaman |
| 08:11.55 | Cruciformer | I think you could waste months trying to code it only to find in practice its almost unusable |
| 08:12.05 | industrial | i guess :( |
| 08:12.13 | industrial | but no fuss would be awesome :P |
| 08:12.54 | Cruciformer | for its sheer simplicity I love suicide kings. Easy to explain, easy to get loot. EP/GP is even better, but much more difficult to explain to an initiate who is even slightly retarded. |
| 08:13.10 | industrial | I guess you could let everyone pick upgrades on the guild website and when it drops distribute them automatically and update the list :o |
| 08:13.10 | Cruciformer | (and they almost all are) |
| 08:14.16 | industrial | i dont like epgp but it's exactly why it's a good system |
| 08:14.34 | industrial | because I don't raid all that much my ep doesnt go up very much with the decay |
| 08:14.50 | industrial | thus I haven't looted an upgrade for over a month |
| 08:15.03 | industrial | and I don't even hace a lot of t8 (2 pieces) |
| 08:15.36 | industrial | it does mean the upgrades went towars the greater good (the guild) |
| 08:15.46 | industrial | but kind of boring for me! |
| 08:16.07 | Cruciformer | heh ... nothing more inconveniemnt than a loot system that actually works :) |
| 08:17.09 | industrial | need... upgrade.. starving.. |
| 08:17.36 | industrial | I've stopped caring about pumping out max dps too cause I simply can't keep up with gear |
| 08:17.44 | industrial | I'm miles away from any t9 :P |
| 08:18.00 | Shirik | night Fisker |
| 08:18.01 | Shirik | behave :3 |
| 08:18.14 | industrial | puts Fisker on the leash |
| 08:19.54 | Cruciformer | please dont forget the ball-gag too |
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| 08:38.54 | roasticle__ | im not raiding lately but im making an attendance mod for our guild so im going to make it interface with epgp and add 0.01 epgp secretly every 10mins |
| 08:39.25 | roasticle__ | >:D |
| 08:54.04 | Thunder_Child | so i just got an email from ebay that i won a "New Sexy Black Lace Up Corset + G-String + Skrit Dress" |
| 08:54.16 | Thunder_Child | this was rather confusing and disturbing |
| 08:54.40 | zenzelezz | yeah, you'd think they could spell skirt |
| 08:55.14 | Thunder_Child | well it is being sold from Hong Kong |
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| 09:18.05 | parovka | hello :-) |
| 09:20.18 | parovka | can anybody explane to me (or show prewiev) how can I integrated this addon http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/wholib.aspx in my addon, and use (get Level by player name) |
| 09:20.38 | parovka | Iam begginer with WoW API(addons) ... |
| 09:23.55 | roasticle__ | !api who |
| 09:23.56 | lua_bot | Found 6 possible results for 'who': GetWhoInfo, WHO_LIST_UPDATE, SendWho, SetWhoToUI, SortWho, GetNumWhoResults |
| 09:24.16 | roasticle__ | could just use GetWhoInfo prolly |
| 09:26.30 | parovka | and use? |
| 09:26.51 | parovka | local wholib = LibStub:GetLibrary('LibWho-2.0'):Library() |
| 09:26.51 | parovka | wholib:UserInfo("name"); |
| 09:26.54 | parovka | and return? |
| 09:27.52 | roasticle__ | if that lib works sure? |
| 09:28.16 | parovka | some strings are here user.Level and more, but where I declared this (sry for my english, Iam no good) |
| 09:31.24 | parovka | local user = wholib:UserInfo("name"); |
| 09:31.25 | parovka | and user.level = is "name"'s level?... |
| 09:31.40 | Arrowmaster | thats not how the lib works |
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| 09:33.27 | parovka | i need help with this, i just try possibilities... |
| 09:34.41 | Arrowmaster | the library has documentation but it sucks just as much as the library itself does |
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| 09:51.59 | roasticle__ | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendWho |
| 09:52.08 | roasticle__ | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetWhoInfo |
| 09:52.26 | roasticle__ | you could just use sendwho then use getwhoinfo to extract the info |
| 09:52.42 | roasticle__ | library seems kind of silly for something so simple |
| 09:53.06 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/740/ |
| 09:53.09 | Adys | hows the screenshot |
| 09:53.31 | roasticle | wtfz |
| 09:54.59 | Arrowmaster | roasticle: its not simple at all the who system in wow is completely fucked up and far from simple to work with |
| 09:56.13 | Wobin | Arrowmaster, He won't know til he tries it himself =( |
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| 10:02.24 | parovka | ou sry, i speak about addon wholib and you about wow api function, i apologies, i see this yet :-( i badly expressed |
| 10:02.25 | parovka | sry |
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| 10:22.42 | Bruners | is there an addon that alters the guild info pane to be somewhat bigger? |
| 10:28.49 | Adys | BiggerGuildInfoPane |
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| 10:53.10 | Arrowmaster | how the fuck do you accept a dcc in irssi, i had to enable dcc_autoget then disable it |
| 10:53.56 | nevcairiel | ./dcc get <nick> |
| 10:53.57 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 11:05.48 | mikma | shirik|zzz: http://naurunappula.com/499803 |
| 11:06.19 | Adys | http://derrenbrownart.com/blog/2009/08/narcissists-attracted-facebook-control-image/ |
| 11:06.23 | Adys | OH MY GOD THE PICTURE SO WRONG |
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| 11:44.08 | mikma | http://naurunappula.com/495503 |
| 11:52.24 | Fisker | slaps mikma around a bit with a large trout |
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| 11:56.10 | mikma | fisker: http://naurunappula.com/361318 |
| 11:57.51 | wsoul | mm, is this normal to have essence of wintergrasp most of the time even in instances? "Elkano's BB |
| 12:00.18 | _rane | can you hide yourself from Grid? |
| 12:03.23 | Fisker | yes wsoul |
| 12:03.24 | wsoul | Not sure haven't thought about it |
| 12:03.24 | Fisker | durr |
| 12:03.50 | Grum | where is Antiarc when you need him! :D |
| 12:04.02 | Antiarc | <_< |
| 12:04.09 | Antiarc | Up working late! |
| 12:04.43 | Grum | yay! |
| 12:04.45 | Fisker | Antiarc is the person doing ClosetGnome_HighestItemLevel |
| 12:04.51 | Fisker | atleast that's what i heard |
| 12:04.52 | Antiarc | what? |
| 12:04.53 | Grum | gimme your pending commits for Chatter please so i can work on them =) |
| 12:04.57 | Antiarc | Oh uh |
| 12:05.00 | Grum | (or you commit!) |
| 12:05.01 | Antiarc | It's not really much |
| 12:05.06 | Antiarc | I've been distracted :< |
| 12:05.07 | Grum | should be color fixes right? |
| 12:05.12 | Grum | yeah Stan keeps bugging me |
| 12:05.19 | Antiarc | I got halfway through it then screwed it up pre-raid and reverted |
| 12:05.23 | Antiarc | Then forgot to go fix it |
| 12:05.46 | Grum | I've yet to look into it |
| 12:05.55 | Grum | btw, cant we use git ? ;) |
| 12:05.59 | Grum | svn is le bleh! |
| 12:06.13 | Antiarc | meh, I'm inclined to keep it in SVN just because it's already there |
| 12:06.17 | Antiarc | But I do all my new projects in git |
| 12:06.31 | Grum | mm i could convert it to git |
| 12:08.21 | Grum | just have to look into the externals |
| 12:17.35 | Grum | mmm i kinda want proper git user strings for mikk and arrowmaster |
| 12:18.30 | nevcairiel | just disable the freaking packager before pushing the new git repo this time .P |
| 12:18.37 | Grum | i cant! haha |
| 12:27.18 | mikma | http://naurunappula.com/325317 |
| 12:28.46 | Grum | lol |
| 12:33.36 | mikma | http://naurunappula.com/452493 <3 |
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| 12:40.10 | mikma | a bit more serious video, http://naurunappula.com/485387 |
| 12:40.19 | mikma | well worth watching through |
| 12:43.29 | Grum | Antiarc: http://dl.dwim.org/~ebroes/Chatter.tar.gz -- if you create a git repo for the project you should be able to just push that over and be done with it |
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| 12:47.41 | mikma | cairenn: http://naurunappula.com/267978 |
| 12:47.47 | Arrowmaster | Grum: huh? |
| 12:48.27 | Grum | Arrowmaster; just converting a svn repo to git :P |
| 12:48.58 | Arrowmaster | oh just map arrowmaster to 'Arrowmaster <arrow@arrowmaster.net>' |
| 12:48.59 | Stanzilla | licks Grum |
| 12:49.11 | Grum | but then i ahve to export it again! |
| 12:49.12 | Grum | kk ;( |
| 12:50.19 | Stanzilla | and it's not only the color stuff, it's item and spell links, too |
| 12:50.30 | Grum | YESYES grr |
| 12:51.11 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 12:51.18 | Grum | so Antiarc still awake? :D |
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| 12:53.07 | Grum | Antiarc: i dont have enough rights to do this, i cant stop the packager or create the git repo :( |
| 12:54.37 | Arrowmaster | i could do it |
| 12:54.47 | Grum | i want Antiarc OK on it :) |
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| 12:57.31 | Wobin | =\ |
| 12:57.43 | Wobin | An enraged Deconstructor made tauren waffles out of our tank earlier =( |
| 12:57.54 | Grum | auchie :P |
| 12:58.03 | nevcairiel | mmmm waffles |
| 12:58.17 | nevcairiel | screw you Wobin, now i'm in the mood for waffles |
| 12:59.00 | Grum | kkk! new http://dl.dwim.org/~ebroes/Chatter.tar.gz for Antiarc |
| 12:59.03 | Grum | now wake up slackkar! |
| 13:02.10 | Arrowmaster | is that a bundle? |
| 13:02.16 | Grum | nsh |
| 13:02.26 | Grum | nah just a checkout tar.gz'd |
| 13:02.32 | Grum | clone actually |
| 13:02.37 | Arrowmaster | make a bundle |
| 13:02.42 | Grum | why? :( |
| 13:02.48 | Arrowmaster | its the proper way? |
| 13:02.52 | Grum | proper way for what? |
| 13:02.55 | Grum | we dont have a repo yet |
| 13:03.14 | Arrowmaster | to move a repo by a single file |
| 13:03.35 | Arrowmaster | man git-bundle |
| 13:04.03 | Grum | yes and then? mkdir Chatter; git init; git fetch ../bundle; git checkout master? |
| 13:04.25 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 13:04.38 | Grum | or just tar zxf Chatter.tar.gz ;) |
| 13:04.49 | Grum | and yeah i know, but without a repo this is just as easy |
| 13:08.11 | Grum | Antiarc, wake up! =) |
| 13:18.56 | Grum | Stanzilla: spells linked from the spellbook work in custom channels |
| 13:19.03 | Grum | itemlinks as well |
| 13:19.36 | Grum | let me guess, it breaks with prat? |
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| 13:22.12 | Stanzilla | that and try to link from your talent tree |
| 13:23.04 | Grum | also works |
| 13:23.09 | Grum | what does it look like if it doesnt work? |
| 13:23.18 | Stanzilla | its just the text, no link |
| 13:23.22 | Grum | not here |
| 13:23.39 | Stanzilla | oO |
| 13:23.41 | Grum | i'm sending it in a custom channel to my gf and all the links look as i send them |
| 13:24.02 | Stanzilla | I just tried it |
| 13:24.07 | Stanzilla | maybe some other addon breaking it? |
| 13:24.24 | Grum | i just tried it, they all work |
| 13:24.27 | Grum | perfect |
| 13:24.37 | Grum | so yes must be another addon |
| 13:24.38 | mikma | http://naurunappula.com/471377 \o\ /o/ \o\ |
| 13:24.42 | Fisker | xD mikma |
| 13:25.13 | Grum | E_NOTMYPROBLEM :p |
| 13:25.41 | Fisker | fail mikma |
| 13:25.44 | Fisker | he stopped for a dog |
| 13:25.45 | Fisker | A DOG |
| 13:26.22 | mikma | failsker, some people still like animals more than humans |
| 13:27.08 | Fisker | so do i |
| 13:27.25 | Fisker | but i would still rather drive a dog over than kill several people |
| 13:27.29 | Fisker | :D |
| 13:27.55 | Fisker | your commercials are weak though |
| 13:27.59 | Fisker | stunts, etc. |
| 13:28.10 | Grum | does anyone know an addon which adds icons to the spells/skills/items/etc linked in chat channels? |
| 13:28.17 | Fisker | gory death in commercials much more srs |
| 13:28.31 | mikma | fisker: i would run over you anytime instead of a dog |
| 13:28.48 | Fisker | cool story bro |
| 13:29.11 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OueQ7OUIkYA <-this one sucks |
| 13:29.11 | mikma | failsker |
| 13:30.13 | Fisker | bah |
| 13:30.19 | Fisker | they even removed all the gore from the gory ones |
| 13:30.22 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7RDbnhyEsY |
| 13:30.23 | Fisker | QQ |
| 13:32.41 | NiLon | is there function to check if WG is active (while in zone, if it matters) |
| 13:34.15 | Fisker | You can't query the WG timer outside of Northrend as far as i know |
| 13:35.32 | Fisker | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetWintergraspWaitTime |
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| 13:38.41 | Grum | they changed that Fisker |
| 13:38.46 | Grum | you can now always see the timer afaik |
| 13:48.18 | Pneumatus | yeh, you can get the timer from anywhere, and its on the battelground queue frame |
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| 13:49.50 | zenzelezz | is saddened that his new dictionary includes a list of "SMS words" |
| 13:50.01 | Fisker | i hate you Pneumatus |
| 13:50.09 | Pneumatus | your mom |
| 13:50.13 | Fisker | i love you zenzelezz |
| 13:50.23 | zenzelezz | I love you too Fisker |
| 13:51.12 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-XbjFn3aqE&feature=player_embedded |
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| 14:03.27 | Quutar | hello there, and good morning, afternoon, or evening based on your timezone |
| 14:04.01 | nevcairiel | ~ugt |
| 14:04.02 | purl | rumour has it, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 14:04.12 | nevcairiel | so, morning =P |
| 14:04.22 | Quutar | morning ^_^ |
| 14:06.05 | Quutar | well, obviously, I am new here, since I did not know about the morning bit... what is the protocol about asking for mod dev help? |
| 14:06.13 | Quutar | I used to write mods a long time ago, and trying again |
| 14:06.21 | nevcairiel | ~asktoask |
| 14:06.21 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 14:06.24 | Quutar | things... have changed allot since the last time i coded a mod |
| 14:06.25 | nevcairiel | we have facts for everything :P |
| 14:06.32 | Quutar | cool |
| 14:07.32 | Quutar | so I am sort of getting the new SecureActionButtonTemplate objects... but when i try to setup a button with type macro ... my macrotext is not fully being executed |
| 14:07.37 | Quutar | kind of strange |
| 14:08.02 | Quutar | here is the line is question "<Attribute name="macrotext2" type="string" value="/use 13 \n/use 14\n/cast Tiger's Fury() \n/cast [stealth] Ravage();[nostealth] Shred() \n/startattack"/>" |
| 14:08.21 | Quutar | for some reason... it is able to cast ravage and shred fine based on if I am in stealth or not |
| 14:08.30 | Quutar | but... it never uses my trinkets, and never uses tiger's fury |
| 14:08.46 | nevcairiel | did you try the same code in a default macro to see if it works fine? |
| 14:08.51 | Quutar | yup |
| 14:09.02 | Quutar | except I used real line returns instead of \n |
| 14:09.21 | Quutar | please note, this code resides in the quutar.xml and not the quutar.lua file |
| 14:09.29 | nevcairiel | obviously :) |
| 14:09.37 | Quutar | ^_^ |
| 14:09.46 | nevcairiel | I wonder if it parses the \n properly |
| 14:09.56 | nevcairiel | did you try looking at the macrotext2 attribute afterwards? |
| 14:10.06 | nevcairiel | like, /print BUTTON:GetAttribute("macrotext2") |
| 14:11.33 | Quutar | ok... yea, that is messed up |
| 14:11.39 | Quutar | it is replacing the \n with \\n |
| 14:12.03 | zenzelezz | I may be remembering this wrong, but try |n |
| 14:12.12 | nevcairiel | somehow i dont think that works |
| 14:12.25 | Quutar | what about 
 which is XML escape for new line |
| 14:12.35 | nevcairiel | try it =p |
| 14:12.38 | Quutar | ok... 
 works |
| 14:12.51 | Quutar | thanks for your help... sorry that it was so trivial |
| 14:13.07 | nevcairiel | no worries |
| 14:13.56 | Quutar | it is fun getting back into mod writing... not goign to release them this time (it is what led to wow burn out, having to support my mods)... but it is still fun |
| 14:14.11 | Quutar | I don't get to code at work as much anymore, so I like the being able to |
| 14:15.16 | Quutar | my wife wants me to remake "MultiAssist" for her... but with the changes to the secureunitframes, i don't think it could work the same way anymore |
| 14:23.32 | zenzelezz | I hate when people are using rotary power tools outside... I keep wondering which of my computers' fans/harddrives are dying |
| 14:23.52 | nevcairiel | ha |
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| 14:32.08 | myrkraverk | excuse me, I wanted to try updating an addon, but I can't even seem to find the "show lua errors" button |
| 14:32.15 | myrkraverk | where is/was it? |
| 14:32.28 | zenzelezz | somewhere under Interface I think |
| 14:33.31 | myrkraverk | so did I |
| 14:35.18 | myrkraverk | if something is preventing the addon I'm trying, to load, is there something I can do to see that? |
| 14:40.12 | cbreak | try the xml logs, maybe somethng is in there |
| 14:40.24 | cbreak | also, check out the lua errors with something like swatter |
| 14:42.00 | Grum | would anyknow know the proper syntax of the |T|t texture links ? |
| 14:42.18 | Wobin | it's on wowwiki |
| 14:42.26 | Grum | i have no idea what to search for though |
| 14:43.03 | Wobin | http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Escape_Sequences |
| 14:43.13 | Grum | ah! thanks a lot |
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| 14:49.01 | Gnarfoz | anyone who knows ForteXcorist around? can I disable all but my own buff timers? I want to use it for Beacon of Light and Sacred Shield timers, but it shows other classes' buffs/debuffs on my target, too :\ Or can anyone recommend another timer addon that is capable of tracking my buffs on units that are NOT my current target or focus? |
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| 14:49.48 | Lunessa | like, station or something, man. |
| 14:49.54 | mikma | gas |
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| 15:14.22 | DWSR | Anyone that can suggest a mod to watch for raid buffs and see what's missing? |
| 15:14.39 | DWSR | (i.e. if players don't have 1 buff per pally, or no gift but there's a druid in the raid)? |
| 15:20.08 | Hjalte | DWSR: Not sure if there are any addons that check each player (for the paladin thing) |
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| 15:20.50 | mikma | there was XRS |
| 15:21.02 | DWSR | I would imagine that checkign 25 players would take a fair bit of cycles. |
| 15:21.17 | mikma | http://www.wowace.com/addons/xrs/ |
| 15:21.34 | mikma | altho it's not been updated since january |
| 15:21.54 | Hjalte | http://www.wowace.com/addons/raidbuffstatus/ |
| 15:22.01 | Hjalte | but it is kind of complicated |
| 15:22.06 | JackBurton | is there an auction value addon out there that will show what an items average realm global value? like the prices listed on thotbot? |
| 15:22.25 | DWSR | JackBurton: Auctioneer does that |
| 15:23.11 | JackBurton | does it? i looted lots of items and when i post the item it just uses 4x vender value or something like that. it doesnt have a root value to base off of |
| 15:23.20 | JackBurton | is there a toggle or switch of some sort to turn that on? |
| 15:23.47 | JackBurton | i do "scans" but some items dont show |
| 15:23.54 | Hjalte | JackBurton: You need to scan the auction house first or have it browse a page with the kind of items you are selling. |
| 15:24.03 | DWSR | It hasn't seen those items on auction yet. |
| 15:24.24 | DWSR | Auctioneer can provide guesses based on similar items. |
| 15:24.45 | JackBurton | ok |
| 15:26.15 | JackBurton | what about pitbul? is pitbull 3 better than pitbull 4? and how do i get the frames to dissaper when not in combat? i have the combat fader checked off but the frames wont go away. i googled the problem. the closest clue i got to the rememdy was turning off heal range check. turned it off in pitbull. is there any other range checks? like in healbot or something? |
| 15:26.17 | JackBurton | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=7372941698&sid=1 |
| 15:28.20 | DWSR | PB4 is much better than PB3. |
| 15:30.16 | JackBurton | cool, thanks for the input |
| 15:30.47 | DWSR | PB4 is way easier to configure |
| 15:30.56 | JackBurton | ./nod |
| 15:31.55 | Lunessa | And if you run into a very odd problem in PB4, Shefki (on the main WoW UI & Macros forum) is good about looking into it. |
| 15:34.28 | DWSR | Does PallyPower have a non-Pally mode |
| 15:34.45 | Jelly__ | What do you mean? |
| 15:34.47 | DWSR | i.e. so that you can see who's got what assignments. |
| 15:34.52 | Jelly__ | I set it up for my raid on my DK all the time. |
| 15:35.07 | Shirik | It doesn't even have a "gtfo my face when I'm not a pally" option |
| 15:35.12 | |Jelly| | Yeah, just enable it and /pp config |
| 15:35.19 | DWSR | lol shirik. |
| 15:36.08 | Fisker | STOP USING PALLYPOWER |
| 15:36.43 | DWSR | We have 5 paladins for our core 25 man raids, and they still can't fucking get it together. |
| 15:36.49 | DWSR | Like, I'll be missing kings? wtf? |
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| 15:39.54 | JackBurton | whats the ideal cooldown timers addon? cooldowntimers2? |
| 15:40.15 | JackBurton | for minamalistic UI |
| 15:40.15 | Gnarfoz | totally depends on what you mean by 'cooldown timers' |
| 15:41.32 | JackBurton | im looking for something that a. shows me when spells i use alot is ready. and b. shows me the global spining thing so i know not to try to cast a spell. |
| 15:44.27 | JackBurton | is dominoes the best bar addon out there currentlY? |
| 15:44.44 | Gnarfoz | there is no "best", probably |
| 15:44.48 | Gnarfoz | each does something differently |
| 15:44.52 | Gnarfoz | !api GetAbilityCooldown |
| 15:44.53 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'GetAbilityCooldown'. |
| 15:44.55 | Gnarfoz | !api GetAbilityCoolDown |
| 15:44.55 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'GetAbilityCoolDown'. |
| 15:45.03 | Gnarfoz | !api Ability |
| 15:45.03 | lua_bot | Found 5 possible results for 'Ability': UPDATE_INVENTORY_DURABILITY, GetTrainerServiceNumAbilityReq, GetContainerItemDurability, GetTrainerServiceAbilityReq, GetInventoryItemDurability |
| 15:45.07 | Gnarfoz | !api Cooldown |
| 15:45.07 | lua_bot | Found 22 possible matches for 'Cooldown'. Please be more specific |
| 15:45.15 | zenzelezz | isn't it just GetSpellCooldown for abilities too? |
| 15:45.24 | Gnarfoz | not sure. |
| 15:45.31 | Gnarfoz | !api GetSpellCooldown |
| 15:45.31 | lua_bot | GetSpellCooldown: Returns cooldown information about a spell in the spellbook (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetSpellCooldown) |
| 15:45.43 | nevcairiel | anything in the spellbook is a spell |
| 15:46.12 | nevcairiel | whats an "ability" anyway? :D |
| 15:47.30 | zenzelezz | think it's generally thought of as non-magic stuff? |
| 15:48.37 | zenzelezz | I always find it "wrong" to call my melee attacks "spells" |
| 15:55.09 | Tentacled | I find it wrong to just click the bobber to pull out a fish, instead of tiring it first with loosening/reeling the line first ;P |
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| 16:24.21 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 16:24.26 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 16:24.29 | roasticle | i think you should have to pickup worms in a rainstorm first as bait |
| 16:24.33 | Fisker | Did you stop using pallypower? |
| 16:25.28 | Shirik | I never really used it |
| 16:26.17 | Fisker | oh yes you did |
| 16:27.02 | Lunessa | slaps Fisker repeatedly with something rotten and vaguely fish-like. |
| 16:27.08 | Fisker | slaps Lunessa around a bit with a large trout |
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| 16:51.43 | Lunessa | ... http://xkcd.com/627/ |
| 17:02.13 | cogwheel | Lunessa: i'm in ur aim usin ur codez! |
| 17:02.26 | Lunessa | ZOMG - bugs! |
| 17:03.04 | Lunessa | AIM Cat is amused by your offering. |
| 17:04.32 | cogwheel | we switched to AIM Pro at work after a couple years of Outlook Messenger's bugginess |
| 17:05.42 | Lunessa | Outlook is ... messy. And if any code I wrote lives on in current incarnations, I'll be well and truly shocked. Though I think the Mac OS version is still from '99 so it might have code I worked on in it. |
| 17:07.09 | cogwheel | outlook messenger is something else entirely |
| 17:07.25 | cogwheel | http://www.outlookmessenger.com/OM/index.asp |
| 17:07.54 | Lunessa | Never used it, but it looks... terrible. |
| 17:08.36 | ScytheBlade1 | That's why you install an XMPP server, hook it into your LDAP server and enable kerberos auth |
| 17:08.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Use a decent client and bam |
| 17:09.52 | p3lim | is there an easy way to dump _G into a savedvariable file? |
| 17:10.09 | ScytheBlade1 | easy? sure |
| 17:10.11 | ScytheBlade1 | wise? ehhh |
| 17:10.23 | p3lim | atleast the keys of _G |
| 17:10.40 | cogwheel | make an addon with a saved variable and put the keys into it... |
| 17:10.46 | p3lim | wanna purge all functions / API from _G and use it for something else |
| 17:11.34 | p3lim | like this? |
| 17:11.34 | p3lim | for k, v in next, _G do table.insert(DB, k) end |
| 17:11.34 | p3lim | ? |
| 17:11.56 | p3lim | would also like to only filter the functions |
| 17:12.04 | p3lim | as strings and tables doesnt interest me |
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| 17:13.59 | cogwheel | Lunessa: that xkcd should be on the back of the "No I won't fix your computer" t-shirt imo |
| 17:14.11 | ScytheBlade1 | .. that is a crazy good idea |
| 17:14.22 | Lunessa | cogwheel: /agree. I also printed it out and stuck it on my office door. |
| 17:19.43 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/08/20/funny-pictures-now-boss-fight/ |
| 17:21.06 | mikma | http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/celebrity-pictures-arnold-schwarzenegger-hannah-montana.jpg?w=500&h=319 |
| 17:23.21 | mikma | http://cheezburger.com/view.aspx?ciid=5092043 |
| 17:27.50 | Lunessa | ... Not even I can be hard-hearted when I see this - http://ihasahotdog.com/2009/08/21/cute-puppy-pictures-come-home/ |
| 17:28.24 | Grum | iew ugly :( |
| 17:31.07 | Grum | someone ate his ear~! |
| 17:38.40 | Fisker | i disagree mikma |
| 17:39.02 | Shirik | I love installers that have fun |
| 17:39.06 | Shirik | Oh joy, you do not have C:/MinGW/bin/make.exe. Keep it that way. |
| 17:40.29 | mikma | fisker: i don't give a fuck |
| 17:45.12 | Fisker | you do |
| 17:47.46 | olafski | bah puppies |
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| 18:24.54 | Grum | Antiarc; wakey wakey! :D |
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| 18:34.17 | Lunessa | Let the man sleep. It's Saturday and he's got a rug-rat, a day-time job, and a second, full-time job supporting his addons. |
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| 18:37.22 | Thunder_Child | interesting, grease only has a 7/10 on imdb |
| 18:39.36 | cogwheel | only 6.6/10 on rottentomatoes (84% fresh) |
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| 18:41.25 | Lunessa | Well, movies about teen angst and love in the 1950s as a musical aren't what the net-savvy 20-somethings are into, you know? They want more fucking CGI shit and boobs. Put Sandy in a thong, give Vinny a big-ass gun and blow some shit up and then have sex while singing about blowing things up and it'll be 10/10. |
| 18:42.02 | cogwheel | America! FUCK YEAH! |
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| 18:42.28 | tekkub | grease was a horrible movie |
| 18:42.30 | tekkub | that is all |
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| 18:43.32 | Lunessa | Grease was not horrible, it was a product of its time (the 70s) nostalgic for a mystical wonderland called the 1950s. |
| 18:44.10 | Zyn | and spawned some classic songs |
| 18:44.17 | Thunder_Child | love musicals |
| 18:44.45 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, i think you mean big ass-gun |
| 18:45.11 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: That's a whole other sort of movie. |
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| 19:02.37 | Hirsute | Thunder_Child: xkcd ftw! |
| 19:02.57 | Thunder_Child | indeed Hirsute |
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| 19:06.19 | NightHawkTheSane | So, today was totally going to be a "Fuck Pants" day |
| 19:06.28 | NightHawkTheSane | except I just now realized I need to go grocery shopping. |
| 19:06.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Meh, fuckit, i'll go tomorrow. |
| 19:06.56 | Thunder_Child | really? sex with pants day? |
| 19:12.00 | Lunessa | As my brother says, "At Chez <brother's name>, Pants are optional." |
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| 19:26.02 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC1_F2FnMZA#t=8m20s |
| 19:26.06 | Adys | for the ones who didnt see it |
| 19:28.59 | Hirsute | Adys: Is that someone people here know, or did you just think it was cool? |
| 19:29.33 | Adys | it wasn't just cool |
| 19:29.50 | Adys | it was fucking awesome |
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| 19:31.08 | Hirsute | I guess I'll have to watch an orc dance sometime, because all I saw was a frightening return of the 90s. >.> |
| 19:31.44 | Adys | MC hammer was barely born in the 90s! |
| 19:31.46 | Adys | well |
| 19:31.49 | Adys | ... maybe not |
| 19:32.14 | Lunessa | .... Adys ... /slap |
| 19:34.20 | Lunessa | After having endured the contests this year, I can honestly say... "Never again." |
| 19:35.29 | Adys | why? |
| 19:35.32 | Adys | dont stay all long |
| 19:35.50 | Adys | the sound-a-like got boring because everyone in the room wanted to be on stage |
| 19:36.04 | Hirsute | Was going to say, U Can't Touch This was released on 1-1-1990, Hammer was a late 80s to mid 90s artist. |
| 19:36.31 | Adys | and free sarcasm detectors, when were they released |
| 19:36.36 | Hirsute | And the 90s were mostly as much of an embarassment to music as the 60s were. |
| 19:37.04 | Hirsute | needs a new one of those. His broke when he worked 30 hours straight yesterday. |
| 19:38.13 | Lunessa | ... I like 60s music. Jimmi Hendrix? Janis Joplin? Bob Dylan... Musical GIANTS - Makes MC Hammer look like a no-talent HACK. |
| 19:38.56 | Hirsute | Lunessa: Oh, I'll agree. Those were the best of the 60s, and he near the worst of the 90s. However, the 60s also lay claim to groups like the Mamas and the Papas. |
| 19:39.03 | Hirsute | Which is a hard sin to redeem. |
| 19:39.47 | Lunessa | ... Um, they had some great tunes too. And the 90s gave us "The Proclaimers" and Moby, |
| 19:40.01 | tekkub | I like cheese |
| 19:40.22 | Lunessa | I thought you liked that most holy of foods, bacon? |
| 19:40.28 | Hirsute | Again, there are good things, even in an embarassing decade. But boy my hatred for the Mamas and the Papas knows no bounds. |
| 19:40.54 | Lunessa | Heh, so you really hated Willson Phillips in the 90s? |
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| 19:41.26 | Hirsute | *twitch* And my wife *LOVES* Willson Phillips |
| 19:41.44 | Lunessa | *snicker* |
| 19:42.30 | Hirsute | Though that isn't as painful as when I'm in the car with my dad and he turns on Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. |
| 19:43.30 | Lunessa | I make it a point, when listening to talk radio, to spread my listening amongst all the biased media. It deepens my loathing for all humanity equally. |
| 19:44.20 | Lunessa | Rush, Sean, NPR, PRI, Air America, Fox News - no one gives me un-slanted coverage of anything. |
| 19:47.16 | tekkub | the news is crap, I thought everyone knew this now |
| 19:47.56 | Hirsute | Lunessa: The difference is, Rush/Sean seem to make it a point to lie just convincingly enough to enrage their listeners to the point of not giving more accurate information a chance when it slaps them in the face. |
| 19:47.57 | Lunessa | It is, and I do know. I just have internal filters. |
| 19:48.17 | Hirsute | I know it as well, doesn't mean the Rush and Sean don't irritate the piss out of me. |
| 19:48.19 | Lunessa | Hirsute: No more so than does anyone on Air America. |
| 19:48.43 | Hirsute | Lunessa: Never listened to Air America. I've never heard similar tactics on NPR or PRI, though I don't listen to them consistently either. |
| 19:48.44 | Lunessa | Joe Paggs amuses me a lot - he blasts everyone and makes horrid jokes. |
| 19:49.53 | Lunessa | Hirsute: NPR has a consistent bias - but it's not obvious until you listen to a lot of it and identify the kinds of questions the interviewers ask political personages or the kinds of "human interest" pieces they do. |
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| 19:50.11 | Hirsute | Oh, they have bias, they just don't seem bent on inflaming their readership |
| 19:50.25 | Lunessa | But I listen to a spectrum and filter for myself, and then play CDs when I can't stand it any longer. |
| 19:50.31 | Hirsute | *nod* |
| 19:51.27 | Lunessa | And any pundit is out to inflame his/her audience. That's the goal - fire people up to action for their cause. Can't blame a cow for being a cow. |
| 19:52.18 | NightHawkTheSane | er.. no, but you can still blame pundits. cows dont really have a choice to NOT be a cow, pundits do. |
| 19:52.23 | Hirsute | Doesn't mean I can't hate looking at them, though. Stupid cows. |
| 19:52.37 | tekkub | aw cmon |
| 19:52.40 | tekkub | you like taurens |
| 19:52.49 | NightHawkTheSane | i -do- like taurens. |
| 19:52.55 | Lunessa | Two words - Tauren Paladin |
| 19:53.05 | tekkub | tauren priest ^^ |
| 19:53.07 | NightHawkTheSane | medium-rare with a nice porter bbq sauce |
| 19:53.13 | tekkub | I neve want to play my pally |
| 19:53.21 | tekkub | healing on priest is funner |
| 19:53.23 | Lunessa | Gnome Priest? |
| 19:53.25 | tekkub | and I never like tanking |
| 19:53.34 | tekkub | too small and hairless |
| 19:53.41 | Lunessa | Hehe. |
| 19:53.54 | nevcairiel | worgen any good? |
| 19:53.54 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 19:54.08 | NightHawkTheSane | tekkub will never play another race once worgen come out :P |
| 19:54.31 | Lunessa | I played Worgen and Goblins at blizzcon |
| 19:54.40 | tekkub | well they can't be what, pally and shaman? |
| 19:54.48 | Lunessa | Worgen starting area had a very Gothic/Victorian feel. |
| 19:54.58 | tekkub | already have a pally, have a 40ish shaman I've not touched in a year |
| 19:55.13 | tekkub | so yea, ally side, pure wuffi |
| 19:55.13 | Lunessa | Dwarven Shaman are coming soon. |
| 19:55.31 | tekkub | have a dorf priest alreadey :) |
| 19:55.37 | tekkub | he's Beardyhead |
| 19:55.42 | Lunessa | Hehe. |
| 19:55.46 | tekkub | no that's his name |
| 19:55.51 | Lunessa | I know. |
| 19:56.03 | NightHawkTheSane | dwarf shaman is probably the class/race combo that weirds me out the most |
| 19:56.24 | tekkub | I may server/faction transfer my pally if I don't have an 80 on this other server by the time it's available |
| 19:56.26 | Lunessa | Night Elf Mage doesn't make you freak out? |
| 19:56.33 | NightHawkTheSane | not at all |
| 19:56.44 | Lunessa | tekkub: You server-hopping soon? |
| 19:57.01 | tekkub | just my unplayed pally |
| 19:57.16 | tekkub | I'm working on a manbearcow over there already... slowly |
| 19:57.21 | Lunessa | needs more peeps for Kirin Tor (US) |
| 19:57.40 | tekkub | Aggramar, horde, bear guild |
| 19:58.18 | NightHawkTheSane | shame you're alliance. :P |
| 19:58.34 | tekkub | hence the need for the faction change :P |
| 19:58.39 | Lunessa | Haha... I was on Aggramar for the longest time, but moved all my horde toons off when they did free realm moves several months ago. |
| 19:59.03 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm not even sure i'd want to switch my horde toons to alliance :P i really like horde |
| 19:59.28 | tekkub | I think you're confused |
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| 19:59.39 | tekkub | I want to move at least one of my guys to horde :P |
| 20:00.04 | Lunessa | I need to make room on my primary account for new characters. Someone has to go. |
| 20:01.49 | foxlit | I vote peppy! |
| 20:02.58 | Lunessa | ~LART foxlit |
| 20:02.58 | purl | makes a balloon animal out of foxlit |
| 20:04.13 | foxlit | Wait, you aren't peppy. |
| 20:04.50 | foxlit | Clearly need to rely on more than skimming the first letter of the nick. |
| 20:05.20 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 20:07.45 | Pneumatus | Lunessa: your bank alt |
| 20:07.45 | Lunessa | Pneumatus: That's my secondary account. |
| 20:07.45 | Pneumatus | :o |
| 20:07.53 | Pneumatus | you got more than 1 of each class then? |
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| 20:09.44 | Lunessa | Believe it or not, I have 3 shaman. |
| 20:09.51 | Lunessa | I need to condense some toons. |
| 20:10.12 | zenzelezz | one for each tree? |
| 20:15.16 | Lunessa | Yeah, started and leveled before dual-spec, and all have different professions. |
| 20:17.00 | cbreak | get some sayajin training and do a fusion |
| 20:17.20 | Lunessa | I'm thinking the warrior or the Death Knight will be replaced with a Worgen and the rogue with a goblin |
| 20:19.38 | tekkub | worgen dk seems a bit overboard |
| 20:19.49 | tekkub | oh look at me I'm a werewolf and I"m undead |
| 20:20.18 | NightHawkTheSane | dk's aren't inherently undead.. |
| 20:20.25 | tekkub | de-dead then |
| 20:20.39 | Lunessa | Decrypted. |
| 20:20.47 | tekkub | you're fired |
| 20:20.52 | NightHawkTheSane | more like corrupted. |
| 20:21.06 | Lunessa | Does this mean I can go home? |
| 20:21.26 | tekkub | the DK starter voiceover pretty clearly says you died |
| 20:22.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: yes |
| 20:22.44 | zenzelezz | most characters have died tons of times |
| 20:22.48 | zenzelezz | yet they're not undead |
| 20:23.53 | Lunessa | The starting quests for Worgen and Goblin are different - and the panelists did say they "hadn't really thought out what it means to be a level 55 goblin death knight" yet, so it'll be interesting to see what they work out. |
| 20:26.36 | zenzelezz | means you have 30 levels to go |
| 20:26.41 | tekkub | zenzelezz: but noone rez'd you till artie came along? |
| 20:29.05 | zenzelezz | maybe you fell for a corrupted soul stone |
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| 20:34.39 | zenzelezz | "Let the good time roll, because god the almighty.... let the good times roll, the almighty.... will stick down his head beneath the clouds, shake the earth and scream out loud 'let the good times roll!'" |
| 20:34.44 | zenzelezz | sings along quietly |
| 20:35.19 | Lunessa | listens to the soundtrack album for "The Craft" - shitty movie, great music. |
| 20:36.03 | zenzelezz | don't recognize that name, what sort of movie was that? |
| 20:36.42 | Lunessa | Teen-age girls use black magic to fix their lives and become popular and pretty until it all goes wrong. |
| 20:37.09 | NightHawkTheSane | didn't that turn into a really bad series too? |
| 20:37.31 | Keias | light as a feather, stiff as a board. |
| 20:38.19 | zenzelezz | too much info |
| 20:39.31 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: I don't know. I watched the movie because an ex wanted to see it in the theater. I got the album because the music was good, even if the movie sucked. |
| 20:40.27 | Lunessa | Hather Nova has a really awesome cover of Peter Gabriel's "I Have the Touch" |
| 20:40.58 | NightHawkTheSane | mm.. heather nova.. |
| 20:42.44 | Lunessa | And Letters to Cleo does "Dangerous Type" which I really like too. |
| 20:43.45 | NightHawkTheSane | http://bigbigpix.blogspot.com/2009/08/snakes-eat-everything.html |
| 20:44.49 | tekkub | god damnit NightHawkTheSane |
| 20:44.57 | tekkub | my brain finally kicked on |
| 20:45.09 | tekkub | "sadly, my fuckpants have a hole in them" |
| 20:45.44 | NightHawkTheSane | ... how is this my fault? :P |
| 20:46.07 | tekkub | because it is |
| 20:46.32 | Lunessa | Now you have tekkub thinking about pants with strategic holes. And I need to scrub my brain with bleach. |
| 20:46.33 | NightHawkTheSane | i see... |
| 20:47.21 | zenzelezz | I would say most pants have strategic holes in them |
| 20:47.24 | Cloudwolf | lunessa isn't htat normal for being in this channel? |
| 20:47.25 | zenzelezz | gets hard to put them on otherwise |
| 20:47.35 | Cloudwolf | ^lol |
| 20:47.45 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: feh. i sew my own pants around my legs! |
| 20:48.12 | zenzelezz | just go without pants, feels less constricted |
| 20:48.31 | NightHawkTheSane | hence my setatement on twitter, earlier "Fuck Pants" |
| 20:49.17 | tekkub | I'd grow my own pants if I could |
| 20:49.36 | Lunessa | Pants Boss drops epic loots. |
| 20:50.28 | tekkub | GitHub won't make me wear pants, it's in my contract |
| 20:50.28 | Cloudwolf | i still dont understand having a plate item look like a toga/robe/kilt |
| 20:50.40 | tekkub | utiliplatekilt |
| 20:50.48 | NightHawkTheSane | kilts are awesome |
| 20:50.57 | tekkub | I so want a utilikilt |
| 20:51.03 | NightHawkTheSane | so, buy one? |
| 20:51.10 | tekkub | I've wanted one for years, maybe I should just break down and get one |
| 20:51.23 | Lunessa | I have a traditional kilt for Faire. It takes forever to "pleat" the damned thing. |
| 20:51.30 | tekkub | money and all that, unemployed husband and all |
| 20:51.32 | tekkub | :P |
| 20:51.38 | NightHawkTheSane | ah. |
| 20:51.43 | NightHawkTheSane | fair enough. |
| 20:51.50 | NightHawkTheSane | <-- broke and unemployed :( |
| 20:52.08 | Lunessa | I'm employed and still broke. |
| 20:52.12 | tekkub | we're not broke, but we don't have money to blow either |
| 20:52.13 | Cloudwolf | unemployed but only 16 years old so atm it doesn't matter |
| 20:56.47 | NightHawkTheSane | bleh, eureka this week is lame |
| 20:58.18 | Lunessa | Warehouse 13 was pretty lame too. |
| 20:59.04 | NightHawkTheSane | kinda |
| 20:59.25 | NightHawkTheSane | less lame than eureka though |
| 20:59.54 | foxlit | The silence after the last OPie release is eerie. |
| 21:00.10 | NightHawkTheSane | silence? |
| 21:00.12 | NightHawkTheSane | of the lambs? |
| 21:00.25 | foxlit | Either I've implemented everything anyone ever wanted, or I've somehow nuked my install base off the internet. |
| 21:00.35 | Lunessa | I haven't used it in a while foxlit. Sorry. :( |
| 21:01.33 | foxlit | np :) |
| 21:01.52 | Cloudwolf | foxlit all your base are belong to us? |
| 21:01.57 | Cloudwolf | and you have a base? XD |
| 21:02.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i haven't really played in a couple months, and even then it did more than i really needed, so :) |
| 21:02.42 | foxlit | (where else would G.R.O.S.S meet?) |
| 21:06.57 | Cloudwolf | hmm my addon likes to pend |
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| 21:21.30 | Thunder_Child | WTB server room like AC |
| 21:26.17 | Lunessa | Hot where you are? |
| 21:26.30 | Thunder_Child | mid 90's (F) |
| 21:26.54 | zenzelezz | maybe the current in the server room is just a little more alternating than in his current room |
| 21:28.14 | NightHawkTheSane | alternates zenzelezz |
| 21:28.34 | zenzelezz | sparks |
| 21:29.40 | Lunessa | adjusts the gap to limit arcs. |
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| 21:33.43 | NightHawkTheSane | mind the gap? |
| 21:35.33 | NightHawkTheSane | bleh, my dvd tray is sticky :\ |
| 21:36.59 | zenzelezz | doesn't want to know |
| 21:43.09 | zenzelezz | hm, "Wolf" on TV... and I was going to try to do some work :( |
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| 21:53.12 | zenzelezz | Jack Nicholson does a lot of good roles, but I think "Wolf" is actually one of my favourites |
| 21:53.41 | Lunessa | Peanut butter and jelly is mother's milk to me. |
| 21:54.09 | zenzelezz | must have been an odd experience for your mother |
| 21:57.41 | A-KO | haha |
| 21:58.22 | Lunessa | It's a line from the movie. |
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| 22:04.04 | Lunessa | ok, ciao tutti. |
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| 22:15.40 | JackBurton76 | anyone know a ratings buster that works with Death Knights? |
| 22:19.22 | Bruners | yes, ratingbuster |
| 22:21.28 | Bruners | the proof http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/WoWScrnShot_083009_002050.jpg |
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| 22:28.09 | Fisker | i don't believe you Bruners |
| 22:28.14 | Fisker | I DON'T BELIEVE YOU TO HELL |
| 22:31.39 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 |
| 22:31.42 | Shirik | Text files suck |
| 22:32.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Prove it |
| 22:32.55 | Shirik | I added a definition in between 6.1 and 6.2 |
| 22:32.58 | Shirik | and now I have to change every line |
| 22:33.16 | ScytheBlade1 | search/replace? |
| 22:33.21 | Shirik | no |
| 22:33.23 | Shirik | the numbeers |
| 22:33.25 | Shirik | need to be incremented |
| 22:33.44 | ScytheBlade1 | hm point |
| 22:35.16 | Shirik | I WIN |
| 22:35.21 | Shirik | docx > txt |
| 22:35.24 | ScytheBlade1 | no. |
| 22:35.46 | Yewbacca | Hmm, I'm trying to grab the player's guild information at logon. IsInGuild() and GetGuildInfo('player') both return nil until well after PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD. They're even nil after GUILD_MOTD has fired. It's really weird. Anyone worked out a solution for this? |
| 22:35.53 | ScytheBlade1 | If you really care that much, just update your precious crappy format, and tell me what changes in the commit message |
| 22:35.58 | ScytheBlade1 | And I'll /manually/ update the txt |
| 22:36.26 | ScytheBlade1 | (the shock, the horror!) |
| 22:36.56 | Shirik | I'm already updating the txt :( |
| 22:37.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:37.31 | ScytheBlade1 | If you can find a format where a simple diff shows the actual differences in plain text and nothing more, I'll convert it all over to said format |
| 22:38.58 | Shirik | latex |
| 22:39.05 | Shirik | HTML |
| 22:39.13 | Shirik | RTF? |
| 22:39.20 | ScytheBlade1 | html might work easiest |
| 22:39.45 | ScytheBlade1 | though none of them address what happens when you change the numbering to previously references numbers |
| 22:39.55 | ScytheBlade1 | (txt included) |
| 22:40.30 | Shirik | <ol><li> ... |
| 22:40.36 | NightHawkTheSane | doesn't LaTeX have stuff to handle auto-numbering? |
| 22:40.42 | Shirik | yes |
| 22:41.04 | ScytheBlade1 | A.B.C: see X.Y.Z <-- html can't fix the 'X.Y.Z' reference if you change the definition of X.Y.Z |
| 22:41.28 | NightHawkTheSane | use named anchors? |
| 22:41.28 | Shirik | that's ok |
| 22:41.30 | Shirik | word sucks at that too |
| 22:41.38 | NightHawkTheSane | instead of arbitrary number |
| 22:41.40 | Shirik | I've been using the little cross reference thing |
| 22:41.41 | NightHawkTheSane | s |
| 22:41.42 | ScytheBlade1 | we'd have something like 02938409283409832 named anchors |
| 22:41.52 | Shirik | but you have to go back and actually click on them to update them |
| 22:41.56 | Shirik | such BS |
| 22:43.14 | ScytheBlade1 | the great thing about that txt |
| 22:43.23 | ScytheBlade1 | is that with some search/replace, it can be converted to html |
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| 22:46.28 | NightHawkTheSane | i think there's LaTeX to html converters |
| 22:46.37 | NightHawkTheSane | hell, there's latex-to-everything converters |
| 22:46.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't want to leave the windows noobs in the dark though |
| 22:47.01 | ScytheBlade1 | *cough* |
| 22:47.12 | NightHawkTheSane | .... i fail to see a problem here. ;) |
| 22:47.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't either, personally |
| 22:47.30 | ScytheBlade1 | But the whine isn't worth it ;) |
| 22:48.00 | Shirik | wow. |
| 22:48.07 | Shirik | good thing I"m doing this TXT conversion |
| 22:48.16 | Shirik | 7.3.1.4.2If a recheck identifies an element which is no longer valid, the system shall notify the user of the nonconformance, but leave the element unchanged. |
| 22:48.16 | Shirik | 7.3.1.4.3If a recheck identifies an element which is no longer valid, the system shall notify the user of the nonconformance, but leave the element unchanged. |
| 22:48.20 | Shirik | I have pro requirements |
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| 22:48.28 | Shirik | I'm not sure if I typed that the same twice or copied and pasted for no reason |
| 22:48.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I might have not hit copy |
| 22:48.48 | Shirik | no, that's in the docx |
| 22:48.51 | ScytheBlade1 | gg |
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| 22:57.41 | Sesshu | is wow using add ons in lua since 1.0? |
| 22:58.26 | Cairenn | since the beginning |
| 22:58.34 | Sesshu | k |
| 23:07.15 | Cide | didn't support addons from the beginning |
| 23:07.23 | Cide | just modifications |
| 23:08.40 | Thunder_Child | and thats not an addon how? |
| 23:09.01 | Arrowmaster | it was using lua4.0 back in alpha or beta wasnt it? |
| 23:09.02 | Cide | addon as the current concept of toggleable pieces |
| 23:09.29 | Cide | in the beginning you modified the framexml code and having more than one modification in at once was a huge pain |
| 23:09.33 | Arrowmaster | yeah originally it was mostly framexml replacements |
| 23:09.38 | Cide | only* |
| 23:09.46 | Cide | nothing else was supported really |
| 23:13.04 | foxlit | Hm. |
| 23:13.17 | foxlit | Wonder if it's worthwhile to craft myself a Flask of the North. |
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| 23:27.29 | Cloudwolf | i wonder if its wortht he turtle mount to be fishing for hours on end... |
| 23:27.45 | Cloudwolf | atleast glacial salmon sell for like 2g on my server |
| 23:27.58 | Shirik | who came up with the TV rating system? |
| 23:28.17 | Shirik | I'm listening to a commercial and they're all like "Rated TVY7FV" and I'm like "wow that's a lot of letters; why do I understand that" |
| 23:28.40 | Shirik | was it so hard to do the "R" "PG" "G" etc. system that the movies came up with? |
| 23:28.42 | Cloudwolf | youth 7 fv? |
| 23:28.45 | Dagmar | ...because when ALASFNSSC appeara you don't leave the room. |
| 23:29.17 | Dagmar | "Family Values" |
| 23:29.23 | Shirik | fantasy violence |
| 23:29.28 | Cloudwolf | ah |
| 23:29.28 | Dagmar | Shucks |
| 23:29.46 | Weltmeister | is there a library, or an addon with external hooks, to get for a specific item the quantity in stock on self, alts (bags and bank) and guild vaults? |
| 23:32.52 | Arrowmaster | yes lots |
| 23:33.50 | Arrowmaster | like one for every bag mod with that feature |
| 23:34.46 | Weltmeister | I've looked at several (BankItems, ArkInventory, Altoholic, libPossessions) and they didn't have external hooks that I could find (except libPossessions, the version I found didn't have guild vaults); ah ok, I was hoping for a simple API from one, I'll dig further into the code and see if I can't figure out how to get it done (I'm new to lua) |
| 23:35.06 | foxlit | Shirik: they had to fit the descriptors in there. |
| 23:39.53 | Shirik | Wikipedia knows way too much information |
| 23:40.29 | Shirik | I didn't know all full-service TV stations in the US must show at least 3 hours of educational & informative programming every week |
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| 23:42.54 | Cloudwolf | lol do infomertials count? |
| 23:43.07 | Dagmar | Do we get to burn their spokesmodel alive? |
| 23:43.33 | tekkub | they air them at 2AM |
| 23:43.40 | tekkub | there can be some good shit there too |
| 23:43.55 | tekkub | sometimes it's basic math, sometmes it's cmplex shits |
| 23:44.46 | Dagmar | Shirik: Them specifying further that the programming _must_ be educational and not merely "targeted at children" is what shut down Saturday Morning Cartoons. |
| 23:45.05 | Dagmar | Now mainly we get free episodes of Twilight Zone. |
| 23:45.22 | Dagmar | ...which at least works out for the SciFi channel. |
| 23:45.48 | Dagmar | THey're airing eps of that for Children in the Classroom, and to my knowledge they don't even have to |
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| 23:58.11 | Shirik | apparently it is illegal for pokemon to transform into eggos, as well |
| 23:58.31 | Dagmar | We're not allowed to eat our playmates. |
| 23:58.38 | Shirik | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2008/03/fcc-fends-off-fleeting-pokemon-attack.ars |
