| 00:00.29 | WaterRatj | GUILD_MOTD, GUILD_ROSTER_SHOW |
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| 00:01.13 | bleeter | one for tekkub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNY6E5jYR08 |
| 00:02.19 | Ackis | so would anyone here have an extra grunty pet they'd sell? |
| 00:02.56 | bleeter | I haven't even got my original yet :( |
| 00:03.20 | WaterRatj | Anyone a clue? |
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| 00:04.29 | Esamynn | Ackis: I have a Grunty card I'll sell you |
| 00:04.29 | bleeter | maybe they're using something else for the same functionality these days |
| 00:04.29 | bleeter | WaterRatj: ^ |
| 00:04.29 | WaterRatj | what ya mean? |
| 00:04.58 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: ping |
| 00:05.44 | bleeter | WaterRatj: just guessing, maybe those events aren't used anymore and something else is. Have you tried looking at what events are firing using DevTools? |
| 00:06.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: pong |
| 00:06.19 | Shirik | here, have a pdf |
| 00:06.34 | WaterRatj | No, whats devtools? |
| 00:07.08 | Thunder_Child | ~devtools |
| 00:07.08 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 00:07.08 | ScytheBlade1 | waits for a PDF |
| 00:07.23 | WaterRatj | Thank you |
| 00:07.24 | Thunder_Child | well that needs to be changed |
| 00:07.46 | tekkub | why the hell do you need devtools for that? |
| 00:07.56 | tekkub | local f = CreateFrame("frame") |
| 00:08.05 | tekkub | f:SetScript("OnEvent", print) |
| 00:08.12 | tekkub | f:RegisterEvent("...") |
| 00:08.54 | WaterRatj | did that |
| 00:08.57 | Bruners | or use the builtin devtools |
| 00:09.10 | WaterRatj | but doesn't show what events are triggered when you don'load them |
| 00:09.15 | theorb | tekkub: Sure, if you want to guess at an event, register, say "no, that's not right", edit your source file, reload. |
| 00:09.24 | bleeter | tekkub: 'coz I figured they didn't have devtools and probably should anyways ;) |
| 00:09.41 | tekkub | theorb: or you do it in tekPad or such so you can change them at will |
| 00:09.48 | Arrowmaster | everybody has devtools |
| 00:09.54 | tekkub | I don't |
| 00:09.57 | tekkub | ^^ |
| 00:10.02 | Esamynn | ~fail tekkub |
| 00:10.03 | purl | tekkub: FAIL! |
| 00:10.05 | bleeter | tekkub: thankfully, you're not everybody :P |
| 00:10.20 | tekkub | there's a little bit of me in everybody |
| 00:10.21 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: you managed to make Blizzard_DebugTools not load? |
| 00:10.42 | tekkub | Arrowmaster: uh, doesn't it only load when you use /dump or one of it's other bitses? |
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| 00:10.53 | tekkub | otherwise why would it be an addon and not in the framexml |
| 00:11.18 | Esamynn | just to screw with you? |
| 00:11.19 | bleeter | tekkub: tmi about you & everybody :P |
| 00:11.23 | Bruners | tekkub: im getting 'master' does not appear to be a git repository after adding remote github :S |
| 00:11.43 | tekkub | you're not telling it what remote to use |
| 00:11.54 | tekkub | gonna guess.. git push master |
| 00:12.14 | Bruners | i kinda copied what github printed |
| 00:12.29 | tekkub | lies |
| 00:12.35 | tekkub | paste your console |
| 00:12.54 | Shirik | So can someone help me out here? What exactly is a dollar bill good for? For example, in other countries, some bills say "promises to pay the bearer of this note <enter denomination here> in gold" |
| 00:13.06 | Shirik | However, the US doesn't actually have the money which is circulating, right? |
| 00:13.14 | Shirik | So why is US currency actually valued? |
| 00:13.23 | tekkub | what is any currency valued? |
| 00:13.28 | Esamynn | because people think it has value |
| 00:13.36 | tekkub | the US's gold stockpile has never changed |
| 00:13.42 | tekkub | but the money in circulation has |
| 00:13.58 | Shirik | which is why the value of gold fluctuates |
| 00:14.02 | Shirik | "gold standard" and all that |
| 00:14.06 | Shirik | but the US isn't on the gold standard |
| 00:14.07 | kd3 | it has value because we all believe it has value |
| 00:14.16 | Esamynn | ^ |
| 00:14.22 | Esamynn | kd3: speak for yourself |
| 00:14.23 | Shirik | that sounds pretty stupid |
| 00:14.27 | theorb | Because people trust that the USD will continue to be able to buy things more then they trust that the government of Zimbabwe will actually give them the amount of gold it says on the bill. |
| 00:14.30 | tekkub | but the point is, everyone's currency is meaningless if you boil it down |
| 00:14.40 | tekkub | we'd just go back to exchanging gold |
| 00:14.50 | theorb | tekkub: For that matter, gold is pretty meaningless. |
| 00:14.57 | tekkub | but if we did that, noone would have currency |
| 00:15.06 | theorb | You can't eat it, drink it, or breathe it. |
| 00:15.10 | Shirik | theorb: It's a little harder to make gold than it is to make a dollar bill |
| 00:15.11 | tekkub | gold is more meaningful than paper |
| 00:15.18 | Esamynn | it's SHINY!!! |
| 00:15.25 | tekkub | and you can't grow is |
| 00:15.30 | kd3 | thinks of that bit of gulliver's travels |
| 00:15.34 | tekkub | tho I hear they can turn lead into gold |
| 00:15.41 | Shirik | only alchemists |
| 00:15.44 | Shirik | but I do have a stone |
| 00:15.48 | kd3 | good thing I play one on TV |
| 00:15.50 | theorb | FSVO of "they". |
| 00:15.54 | Shirik | too bad the stones today suck |
| 00:16.04 | wobin | ugh. I don't like Coderush =\ |
| 00:16.12 | theorb | Transmutation of elements has been done, in microscopic quantities. |
| 00:16.18 | wobin | R# seems so much more usable for me |
| 00:16.23 | theorb | It's a lot more expensive then just buying gold. |
| 00:17.22 | WaterRatj | hmm, it shows in devtools the event is fire but does't show from my addon :o |
| 00:17.49 | AnduinLothar | my RAm came in a sushi dish |
| 00:17.50 | WaterRatj | nvm p |
| 00:18.33 | Esamynn | ~cheeseslap WaterRatj |
| 00:18.34 | purl | ACTION slaps WaterRatj around with a piece of cheddar |
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| 00:24.16 | wsoul | wobin: ping |
| 00:24.42 | wsoul | Blade Ward vs Blood Draining which one you'd pick |
| 00:25.01 | wsoul | Dw tanking |
| 00:27.40 | wobin | not runing your blades? |
| 00:28.29 | wobin | I've no idea, honestly. I've always used runes on my blades as a DK, simply cause they're better than enchants |
| 00:28.37 | wsoul | i enchanted one wep with blood draining the other with rune swordbreaking |
| 00:29.03 | wsoul | but on one-handed wep most of them aren't as good as uldu recipes |
| 00:29.52 | NightHawkTheSan1 | awesome: http://questionland.thestranger.com/questions/4644-where-to-obtain-a-velociraptor-mask-in-city-limits |
| 00:30.45 | wsoul | according to wow-heroes blood draining is better |
| 00:31.05 | wsoul | which i don't understand why, when you can get 600-800 damage on next parry |
| 00:31.35 | wsoul | vs blood draning which is basically for health "drop to 35% you can xxx stacks 5 times" |
| 00:31.57 | Dagmar | Everyone loves hanging out at 35% health |
| 00:31.59 | Dagmar | What's not to like |
| 00:32.12 | Dagmar | A healer blinks, and everyone gets a nice invigorating jog back |
| 00:32.15 | wsoul | Hmmmm.... mixed opinions i hear |
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| 00:33.16 | wsoul | guess i will stick with blood draning |
| 00:33.29 | wsoul | that sword dropped from razorscale and the rogue got it :( |
| 00:33.31 | bleeter | wobin: some idiot here has left some lamingtons behind... |
| 00:33.43 | wsoul | good for tanking too... the funny part he had better weps than it |
| 00:33.46 | wobin | bleeter: FOOL |
| 00:33.59 | wsoul | wobin: give me your shoulders plx |
| 00:34.05 | wsoul | still on wapach |
| 00:34.08 | wobin | wsoul: as Dagmar said.. |
| 00:34.16 | wobin | if you hit 35%, you're dead =P |
| 00:34.24 | bleeter | wobin: they're tasty too, not at all dried out |
| 00:34.27 | bleeter | nomnomnomnom |
| 00:34.28 | wsoul | yeah he has a good point |
| 00:34.28 | Dagmar | Yeah that's WAY too close to being dead for my tastes |
| 00:34.53 | wsoul | so blood draining it is |
| 00:35.00 | wsoul | let me double check actuallt |
| 00:35.00 | wobin | it only returns 2.2k hp |
| 00:35.06 | wobin | which is ... nothing =) |
| 00:35.13 | wsoul | sec |
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| 00:35.42 | Dagmar | One hunter auto-shot crit |
| 00:35.57 | wsoul | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=46026 |
| 00:36.11 | wsoul | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=46098 |
| 00:36.24 | wobin | wsoul: I wouldn't necessarily trust wow-heroes for the enchant... what do the DK sites like EJ suggest? |
| 00:36.30 | Dagmar | For PVE punting around tho, damage typically doesn't come in the five-digit varieties |
| 00:36.47 | wsoul | wobin: will from deathknight info forums both works fine |
| 00:36.51 | wobin | Dagmar: if you're tanking? |
| 00:36.57 | wobin | oh hell yes =) |
| 00:37.25 | Dagmar | wobin: If you're by yourself with like, five stone dwarves frantically flailing away at you, you can stay below 35% awhile |
| 00:37.27 | wobin | also, that damned hunter in ToC |
| 00:37.45 | wobin | wtf is with -her- autoshots? |
| 00:37.53 | wobin | and THUNDERSTORM ARROW? |
| 00:37.55 | wobin | =( |
| 00:38.00 | wsoul | So should i go back to blade ward |
| 00:38.01 | Dagmar | I think they're trying to tease us |
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| 00:38.18 | wsoul | cannot find the bloody link now |
| 00:38.20 | Dagmar | "Oh lewk... this new NPC has interesting new ammo" |
| 00:38.39 | wobin | Dagmar: hehe, I was in Ulduar10 last night. Someone pulled the two patrollers before kologarn before anyone was expecting it |
| 00:38.54 | wobin | and wiped the raid down to two shaman healers (inc me) and a pally tank |
| 00:38.59 | Dagmar | Well, at least they don't chain-amplify |
| 00:39.02 | wsoul | wobin: did uldu 10 for the first time.... offtank was pissing me off |
| 00:39.12 | Dagmar | I'm still smarting from that AQ40 run |
| 00:39.18 | wsoul | we didn't finish the first wing even last boss |
| 00:39.34 | wobin | we spent the next 5min or so chain chain healing the pallytank while the rest of the raid ran back in |
| 00:39.35 | wsoul | ignis i think his name... fire on ground |
| 00:40.09 | wobin | it was so amusing =P one of the shadowpriests got oneshot twice coming back in by the stupid pounce |
| 00:40.20 | wsoul | lol |
| 00:40.26 | wsoul | guild run or pug |
| 00:40.28 | wobin | meanwhile we're spamming chainheal and manatide |
| 00:40.30 | wobin | guild |
| 00:40.36 | Dagmar | The guy with the giant fondue pot? |
| 00:40.45 | wobin | Ignis you -need- a good offtank |
| 00:40.51 | wsoul | Dagmar: yeah |
| 00:41.02 | wsoul | wobin: yeah was a lousy one |
| 00:41.17 | wsoul | pissed me off really... he actually /w during the fight asking "skull or X" |
| 00:41.21 | wobin | or really, you need an offtank that can stun |
| 00:41.26 | wsoul | and i explained in vent |
| 00:41.29 | wobin | (or an assistant who can) |
| 00:41.42 | wobin | like a drood |
| 00:41.46 | wsoul | and linked the video even |
| 00:41.53 | wsoul | no drood tank unfgortunately |
| 00:42.00 | wobin | nah, you'll want a boomkin |
| 00:42.02 | wobin | as assist |
| 00:42.06 | wobin | or a pally tank for the stun |
| 00:42.07 | wsoul | and one more boss then we called it off |
| 00:42.15 | wsoul | after the big giant that you can step on him to check loot |
| 00:42.21 | wsoul | right arm first etc |
| 00:42.25 | wsoul | forgot his name |
| 00:42.27 | wobin | Ignis is -really- hard for first timers who have never seen the fight before |
| 00:42.30 | wobin | Kologarn |
| 00:42.30 | Elusive | Kologarn. |
| 00:42.37 | wsoul | he claimed he did it |
| 00:42.47 | wobin | and for people who can't follow instructions |
| 00:42.50 | wsoul | and insisted on MTing and his health isn't as good as mine |
| 00:42.50 | Elusive | Yeah, Ignis is a little difficult for the inexperienced, it's an incredibilly long fight IMO. |
| 00:43.06 | wobin | really, it's better for the less experienced tank to MT ignis |
| 00:43.15 | wobin | cause the OT does most of the fiddly work |
| 00:43.15 | wsoul | Elusive: got wiped on flame lavi "sigh" |
| 00:43.21 | Dagmar | "Kologarn: Teaching level 80 newbs to sqitch targets faster, daily." |
| 00:43.22 | wobin | wsoul: ugh |
| 00:43.25 | wsoul | i spent about 100g repairing |
| 00:43.31 | wsoul | if not more |
| 00:43.33 | Elusive | Eww, FL? - That's a simple retarded check. |
| 00:43.42 | wsoul | cause nobody listen |
| 00:43.46 | wsoul | aye |
| 00:43.46 | wobin | flame levi is easy even ignoring launching |
| 00:43.47 | Dagmar | Elusive: HAVE YOU BEEN PLAYING THE SAME GAME AS THE REST OF US? |
| 00:43.50 | Elusive | "Are you capable of smashing buttons??" more like. |
| 00:44.11 | Elusive | lol @ dagmar. |
| 00:44.18 | wobin | Maybe Elusive is on a server without retards =) |
| 00:44.25 | Elusive | Nope. |
| 00:44.26 | wobin | (wow... paradise =P) |
| 00:44.35 | Dagmar | Dude I had a rogue in a pug for HToC the other night who had not a clue he should slow down his DPS |
| 00:44.35 | wsoul | wobin: does it make you feel better if i tell you i was 3rd on dps |
| 00:44.35 | Elusive | There's plenty of retards on greymane. |
| 00:44.40 | wsoul | i should have taken a screenshot |
| 00:44.42 | wsoul | and i was MT |
| 00:44.46 | wsoul | guild run |
| 00:44.47 | wobin | wsoul: as the tank? Not really =) |
| 00:44.50 | Kraps | whenever we did 25 ignis, i ended up chasing the ot around just in case something went wrong |
| 00:44.53 | Elusive | Why would you want to slow down your DPS on H TOC? |
| 00:44.55 | Dagmar | The tank's doing about 2k DPS. The rogue, 3900+. |
| 00:44.57 | wsoul | wobin: swear on my mother soul |
| 00:45.00 | Dagmar | Yeah that works GREAT. |
| 00:45.18 | wobin | I <3 my guild |
| 00:45.26 | wsoul | i love your guild too |
| 00:45.27 | wobin | last night was a first time for the majority of the raid |
| 00:45.32 | wsoul | too bad on us realm |
| 00:45.45 | Dagmar | Elusive: Contrary to what some folks think, you don't always just wanna mash the buttons as fast as you possibly can. |
| 00:45.46 | wsoul | been doing toc 10 with braindead players |
| 00:45.50 | wobin | and we one shot Flame, One shot Razor, two shot Ignis, one shot kolo |
| 00:45.55 | wsoul | i explain the tacs |
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| 00:46.08 | Elusive | My guild got up to Auriaya... and that was as far as I knew how to do in ulduar. I haven't really been to Hodir or Freya ,etc |
| 00:46.17 | wobin | ugh crazy cat lady |
| 00:46.21 | wsoul | wobin: you know that fight where you have to seperate them from each othe |
| 00:46.30 | wsoul | adds before ignis right? |
| 00:46.32 | Elusive | Dagmar: Yeah, but what part in H TOC do you slow down DPS at? |
| 00:46.35 | wobin | I'm not sure how to do it with our 10man... I normally use a DK to pull her |
| 00:46.36 | Kraps | i LOVE the hodir fight, idk why |
| 00:46.38 | wsoul | the OT was right beside me and wiped us all |
| 00:46.46 | Elusive | Auriaya? |
| 00:46.50 | wsoul | Kraps: i love that right arm guy |
| 00:46.56 | wsoul | first time in ulduar earlier today |
| 00:46.56 | wobin | Elusive: yeah |
| 00:47.00 | wsoul | was fun |
| 00:47.00 | Elusive | Just have a paladin tank run up in there, busting his cooldowns, throws his shield, bubble wall, and run back. |
| 00:47.06 | Elusive | That's what I do whenever I had to pull as a pally. |
| 00:47.10 | wobin | yeah, we'll bubblepull =) |
| 00:47.17 | Elusive | It works wonders. |
| 00:47.22 | wsoul | i am leveling a warrior/pally actually |
| 00:47.31 | wsoul | dunno which will be the secondary tank :D |
| 00:47.33 | Kraps | farthest ive been is mimi |
| 00:47.40 | wsoul | haven' |
| 00:47.41 | wobin | hehe, what would we do if we had no DKs and no pallies? |
| 00:47.42 | wsoul | t done mimi yet |
| 00:47.46 | Elusive | Just throw your shield down there, it'll more then likely hit 2 targets, he'll have to judgement the other cat, and then have the other tank start picking up whatever is assigned to him. |
| 00:47.51 | wsoul | wobin: tank with the shamans! |
| 00:47.55 | Elusive | Wobin: Use your DK's ground thing to pull? |
| 00:48.01 | Elusive | Just stand at the stairs and do it :P |
| 00:48.03 | wsoul | DnD? |
| 00:48.07 | wobin | Elusive: normally yes, but no DK in the raid |
| 00:48.15 | wsoul | You are! |
| 00:48.17 | wobin | (surprise =)) |
| 00:48.22 | Elusive | Surprise sex! |
| 00:48.25 | wobin | nah, I'm resto shammy in this one |
| 00:48.25 | wsoul | try Dw :P |
| 00:48.26 | Elusive | Wait, nevermind. |
| 00:48.40 | wobin | Elusive: have you -seen- the cat penis? |
| 00:48.45 | wobin | it has SPIKES |
| 00:48.47 | wsoul | lol |
| 00:48.50 | wobin | Nothankyou |
| 00:48.52 | Elusive | what about a cat penis having spikes? |
| 00:48.55 | Shirik | wtf are you guys talking about |
| 00:49.00 | wobin | surprise sex |
| 00:49.10 | wsoul | rubber fist included |
| 00:49.13 | wobin | and crazy cat lady |
| 00:49.30 | wsoul | wobin: you have that 16x stamina trinket |
| 00:49.36 | wsoul | heart iron or some such |
| 00:49.45 | Martag | oh god, that would be pretty nice to have. |
| 00:49.50 | wsoul | indeed |
| 00:49.57 | Martag | But, stacking stam doesn't always mean your tank is geared. |
| 00:49.58 | wsoul | the other one is 15x from uldu10 |
| 00:50.08 | Martag | Unfortunately, that'll pretty much change in the future when they dumb down the stats. |
| 00:50.12 | wsoul | def capped on both two handed tankiong and dw |
| 00:50.28 | wsoul | 555 on two handed, 546 on dw |
| 00:50.35 | bleeter | http://www.lukesurl.com/archives/984 |
| 00:50.43 | Shirik | um |
| 00:50.46 | Shirik | 16x stamina? |
| 00:50.55 | wsoul | sec i'll get you the name |
| 00:51.08 | wobin | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45158 |
| 00:51.15 | wobin | 162 stam |
| 00:51.20 | wsoul | heart if iron |
| 00:51.25 | wobin | Nah, I got the Black Heart yesterday |
| 00:51.26 | wsoul | exactly |
| 00:51.26 | Shirik | ok that's not 16x |
| 00:51.35 | wobin | well, it is.. |
| 00:51.37 | wobin | where x == 2 =) |
| 00:51.40 | wsoul | the x cause i wasn't sure of what number it was |
| 00:51.40 | Shirik | I took taht to mean "16 times" |
| 00:51.45 | wsoul | ohhh no |
| 00:51.47 | wsoul | hehe |
| 00:52.00 | wsoul | do you know about |
| 00:52.07 | wsoul | 192 stamina? ;) |
| 00:52.16 | wobin | The Black Heart is a nice upgrade from Essence of Gossamer |
| 00:52.17 | wsoul | juggernauts vitality |
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| 00:52.20 | Shirik | still not as good as 16x |
| 00:52.22 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 00:52.25 | wsoul | wobin: haven't got it |
| 00:52.30 | Martag | I'll tell you waht i dislike seeing, is nub tanks walking around with two JC trinkets, stacking stam. |
| 00:52.31 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi. |
| 00:52.32 | Martag | hmm. |
| 00:52.37 | wsoul | never drops when i run normal |
| 00:52.40 | Martag | yeah, that black heart is pretty nice. |
| 00:52.41 | wobin | Drops off the Black Knight in normal Toc |
| 00:52.46 | Martag | ^ |
| 00:52.53 | wsoul | martag lol... i have one :( |
| 00:53.05 | Lopeppeppy | Luck is just too unlucky sometimes. |
| 00:53.05 | wsoul | never got lucky with naxx25 loot |
| 00:53.11 | wobin | Martag: well the only other decent tanking trinkets are Naxx |
| 00:53.17 | wobin | (pre ulduar) |
| 00:53.24 | Martag | Nah. |
| 00:53.30 | Martag | There's some heroic ones. |
| 00:53.35 | wsoul | Nope |
| 00:53.35 | wobin | although I haven't looked at the badge trinkets |
| 00:53.37 | wsoul | There isn't |
| 00:53.38 | Martag | and a couple of good nax ones. |
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| 00:53.43 | wobin | Well, there's Essence of gossamer |
| 00:53.48 | wobin | but the drop rate on that is terrible |
| 00:54.01 | wsoul | true |
| 00:54.03 | wobin | and it's Old Kingdom |
| 00:54.10 | wobin | which is terrible =P If short |
| 00:54.22 | wsoul | Black heart is what i need then the normal one from uldu 10 |
| 00:54.32 | Martag | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37872 |
| 00:54.32 | wobin | Defenders Code is a nice one for dodge |
| 00:54.43 | wsoul | unlucky with loots |
| 00:54.51 | wobin | pft |
| 00:54.53 | wobin | shield |
| 00:54.56 | wsoul | only good day was when i got the same back as yours and broken promise |
| 00:54.58 | Martag | essemer of gossance. |
| 00:55.00 | wobin | we're DKs =) |
| 00:55.21 | Martag | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=36993 |
| 00:55.22 | wsoul | btw, is the waist from BS betetr than the conq one? |
| 00:55.26 | wsoul | the crafted one |
| 00:55.35 | wobin | wouldn't that be ilvl 200? |
| 00:55.45 | wsoul | no |
| 00:55.45 | wobin | while the conq be ilvl219 at least? |
| 00:55.46 | Martag | seal of pantheon, well, my point is still valid, there's still good pre-nax tanking trinkets... just not for DKs I suppose. |
| 00:55.50 | wsoul | the imba one 226 |
| 00:55.57 | wsoul | 2 gems and you can add one socket |
| 00:55.58 | Martag | seal of pantheon = good DK pre nax trinket |
| 00:56.01 | wobin | oh, that level of crafted |
| 00:56.05 | wobin | yeah |
| 00:56.05 | wsoul | yeah |
| 00:56.07 | wsoul | better? |
| 00:56.11 | wobin | drop rate on the seal is horrific =) |
| 00:56.16 | wsoul | my def will drop a little and dodge as well |
| 00:56.20 | wsoul | plus hit |
| 00:56.25 | wobin | I can't even -count- how many times I ran normal HoL for that damn trinket |
| 00:56.28 | Martag | be.imba.hu ? |
| 00:56.40 | Martag | Both dropped 1st time for me lol |
| 00:56.48 | wobin | hates you, myprecioussss |
| 00:56.52 | Martag | <3 my tank got handed nax-25 gear though. - then I started doing ulduar =x |
| 00:56.56 | wsoul | Martag: i hear that word everyday "be imba geared" to do heroic these days |
| 00:57.16 | wobin | imba just means 'ridiculously imbalanced' |
| 00:57.20 | wsoul | haha |
| 00:57.21 | wobin | 'by being overpowered' |
| 00:57.36 | Martag | I never see much people use it unfortunately =P I ilke to just /inspect them when th ey get in and then I'll either boot them if they're retarded or are auto-attackingl. |
| 00:57.41 | wsoul | they /w for stats to do toc hc 5 man |
| 00:57.50 | wsoul | martag come to kazzak eu |
| 00:57.50 | Martag | oh crap. |
| 00:57.55 | wobin | heroic ToC is -hard- |
| 00:57.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Cloudwolf (n=chatzill@c-71-231-97-151.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 00:57.57 | Martag | I logged out on my paladin in healing gear. |
| 00:58.00 | wobin | especially for the healers |
| 00:58.04 | Martag | or else I would've showed you guys my tank :( |
| 00:58.05 | wsoul | where must ppl either steal the loot from you or need imba |
| 00:58.21 | wsoul | got saved from naxx25 because the loot master is retarded |
| 00:58.32 | Cloudwolf | Would any one knwo why 2 frames would grow not in the same direction even though they are both anchored from the TopLeft? |
| 00:58.33 | wobin | if people don't do at least 2k dps, healing heroic toc is utterly painful |
| 00:58.41 | wsoul | wobin: we 4 man it the other day |
| 00:58.52 | wsoul | wobin: just great ppl everyone knows what to do |
| 00:59.00 | Martag | Sounds lke you guys are just grouping with horrible players. |
| 00:59.02 | wsoul | toc hc 5 man btw not crusader |
| 00:59.15 | wobin | yeah |
| 00:59.17 | wsoul | martag which is why i dispise pugs... |
| 00:59.36 | wobin | I've been running with a lot of undergeared guildies |
| 00:59.37 | wobin | to gear them up |
| 00:59.51 | wsoul | i'm with the guild who does the opposite |
| 00:59.57 | wsoul | gear "their" friends first |
| 01:00.07 | wobin | I'm also putting together an enh set for the future (ie never) when I spec enhancement =P |
| 01:00.21 | wobin | but it's better than sharding it =P |
| 01:00.34 | wsoul | going to continue leveling up my warrior... great dps he will be :P |
| 01:00.52 | wsoul | insc as a profession and will get jc too |
| 01:00.53 | wobin | maybe at the point where my dps and healing set are completely different, I'll give enhancement a go over elemental |
| 01:01.03 | Dagmar | "need imba"? |
| 01:01.06 | wsoul | hates healing |
| 01:01.18 | wobin | man, is JC going to be nerfed something terrible come expansion =P |
| 01:01.28 | Martag | http://wow-heroes.com/index.php?zone=us&server=Greymane&name=Brightknight -- Once you're there, please click on "Protection" - I practically stopped gearing that toon when I gquit my guild who was doing Ulduar-25. |
| 01:01.32 | wsoul | want me to take a screenshot "imba dps OK" for old kingdom lol |
| 01:01.36 | Bruners | wobin: nerfed how? |
| 01:01.46 | wsoul | didn't |
| 01:02.01 | wsoul | 34 str, 20 epic whatcha need :P |
| 01:02.36 | Cloudwolf | sooo no answers to why 2 frames grow in not the same directoin even though they both are anchored from the topleft? |
| 01:03.21 | wobin | Cloudwolf: magic? Or perhaps not clearing all points before setting them? |
| 01:03.42 | Cloudwolf | wobin beaware my code is ugly but would you like a pastey of it? |
| 01:04.02 | Shirik | .......... |
| 01:04.06 | Shirik | "Now you can receive notifications via Facebook, iPhone or iPod touch when updates are made to your Blackboard course or organizations." |
| 01:04.16 | Shirik | why the hell does Facebook need to know literally EVERYTHING |
| 01:04.26 | wobin | Bruners: The amount of stats that are being removed/redone means that JC will have to be completely changed |
| 01:04.31 | Martag | Because, it's "popular" |
| 01:04.37 | Cloudwolf | wobin: http://www.pastey.net/123521 |
| 01:04.42 | wobin | So 'nerfed' in the sense that none of the current available gems will be useful after |
| 01:05.26 | Bruners | how does one remove giant bug on the wall |
| 01:05.41 | wsoul | by smacking him with a shoe |
| 01:05.52 | Dagmar | s/shoe/giant shoe/; |
| 01:06.01 | wsoul | lol |
| 01:06.13 | Lopeppeppy | Plastic cup and piece of paper, or you're going to make a mess. |
| 01:06.41 | wobin | s/getting/getting someone else to smack/ |
| 01:06.54 | wobin | oh man, getting wasn't in the original phrase |
| 01:07.13 | wsoul | you ruined it :( |
| 01:07.17 | wobin | =( |
| 01:08.04 | wobin | sorry Cloudwolf, but I can't visualise that code well enough atm to debug it |
| 01:08.19 | Cloudwolf | XD k |
| 01:08.56 | Cloudwolf | the last 3 lines have to deal with the scaling of the frames tho |
| 01:09.48 | *** join/#wowuidev Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 01:11.19 | wsoul | wobin have you done toc 10 btw didn't ask you that |
| 01:11.26 | wsoul | seemed so easy |
| 01:11.29 | Yssaril | Cloudwolf: why are you running around in circles getting the slider name on line52,53 don't you already know what it will be called? |
| 01:11.46 | wsoul | the healers and dpsers keeps faling at the adds stage, and the seonc part snakes |
| 01:11.51 | Cloudwolf | so i can hide some text |
| 01:11.53 | Cloudwolf | on it |
| 01:12.43 | Yssaril | what i mean instead of _G[slider:GetName().."High"]:SetText("") since you know exactly what its called jsut do this slidertextHigh:SetText("") |
| 01:13.18 | Bruners | hahahaha, just got to love chains of ice and hunters |
| 01:14.07 | Dagmar | Why? Because it's so easy to get out of? |
| 01:14.08 | wobin | wsoul: yeah I tried it |
| 01:14.22 | wsoul | wobin: finished the first phase? |
| 01:14.23 | wobin | we did fail on the snakes |
| 01:14.24 | Bruners | Dagmar: funny to just run around pusing chains of ice |
| 01:14.37 | wsoul | ohhh you know how to complete it though? |
| 01:14.39 | wobin | first phase was fine, once we figured out where tofocus the dps |
| 01:14.47 | Dagmar | Bruners: Yeah, I can see that |
| 01:14.58 | wobin | but the two snakes gave us problems |
| 01:15.02 | wsoul | dpsers fail always :P i know tacs |
| 01:15.16 | wsoul | ok, you know the one that comes from underground? |
| 01:15.18 | Bruners | giant bug is now flying! |
| 01:15.18 | wobin | we kept getting confused as to where to kite them for each tank |
| 01:15.31 | Dagmar | Time to move. |
| 01:15.39 | wobin | and the tanks kept getting the wrong debuff at the wrong time |
| 01:15.46 | wsoul | just face him to the walls so he do not spread that poison on raid, then you have to pick him up again when they switch |
| 01:16.07 | wobin | I didn't think it was a frontal attack |
| 01:16.09 | Bruners | chains of ice should really get a cooldown or something |
| 01:16.16 | wobin | I thought he just randomly picked a raidmember |
| 01:16.18 | wsoul | ah right, one of the tanks wont be able to move cannot eremember the thing.. but the othet tank has to move toward him to despell it |
| 01:16.18 | wobin | Bruners: it does |
| 01:16.27 | wobin | Bruners: in that it's rune limited |
| 01:16.49 | wobin | wsoul: that only works if the fire worm is not rooted |
| 01:17.33 | wsoul | wobin: did you cehck the video on tankspot? |
| 01:17.39 | Bruners | wobin: should still get a 10s cooldown on use |
| 01:18.12 | Bruners | with death runes you can more or less spam it |
| 01:19.27 | wsoul | wobin: tank spot has a good vid on strategy etc |
| 01:21.48 | VonhintenHOME` | ~wowalert |
| 01:21.49 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 01:22.02 | VonhintenHOME` | hmm, their shit is fuct |
| 01:22.37 | VonhintenHOME` | comcast just died |
| 01:23.02 | *** join/#wowuidev Cloudwolf_ (n=chatzill@c-71-231-97-151.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 01:23.17 | Cloudwolf_ | hmm now the addon isn't even showing |
| 01:25.07 | sylvanaar | © |
| 01:25.24 | Shirik | ⢠|
| 01:25.27 | wobin | wsoul: unfortunately I had to leave my regular raiding group |
| 01:25.37 | wobin | cause I got a job |
| 01:25.37 | wsoul | oh :( |
| 01:25.47 | wsoul | does hurt a little |
| 01:25.57 | Shirik | ok |
| 01:25.57 | wobin | and the one I'm in now is just looking at uld10 |
| 01:25.57 | Lopeppeppy | Jobs are how we pay for our hobbies, wobin. *hug* |
| 01:25.59 | Shirik | wobin and wsoul |
| 01:26.07 | wsoul | wobin: aah cool |
| 01:26.09 | wsoul | Yes? |
| 01:26.12 | wobin | Lopeppeppy: I don't regret it one bit! |
| 01:26.12 | Shirik | your names are identical in size |
| 01:26.17 | Shirik | this is really starting to hurt my eyes |
| 01:26.19 | Shirik | stop talking to each other |
| 01:26.22 | wsoul | haha |
| 01:26.38 | Shirik | :/ |
| 01:26.50 | Yssaril | Shirik: you need a IRC client that colors names :) |
| 01:26.54 | WobindWonderdog | this ^ |
| 01:26.55 | Shirik | it does |
| 01:27.02 | WobindWonderdog | oh we hash the same? =) |
| 01:27.02 | Lopeppeppy | Nobody is like me. :) |
| 01:27.02 | wsoulSHIRIK | i used to use epic5 |
| 01:27.04 | Shirik | it colors the name yellow when someone says the same name |
| 01:27.07 | wsoulSHIRIK | now i got lazy |
| 01:27.08 | wsoulSHIRIK | Irssi 0.8.14 (20090728) - http://irssi.org/ |
| 01:27.08 | Shirik | and it colors my name white |
| 01:27.12 | Shirik | and that's it |
| 01:27.18 | sylvanaar | Shirik you know i was trying to find that character |
| 01:27.29 | Shirik | 0153 |
| 01:27.33 | Shirik | it's the only one I have memorized |
| 01:29.14 | bleeter | rawr http://games.on.net/file/28942/World_of_Warcraft_-_Patch_3.2.0_Full_USA |
| 01:29.22 | sylvanaar | awesome |
| 01:29.28 | Cloudwolf_ | why did this all of a sudden stop workign! |
| 01:29.32 | bleeter | now if games.on.net could host 'patch anything to 3.1.1'... |
| 01:31.14 | VonhintenHOME` | Anyone else on Comcast having problems connecting? |
| 01:31.20 | wsoul | found new great addons, grid and EBB |
| 01:31.35 | Shirik | Wow, http://internetpulse.com/ |
| 01:31.40 | Dagmar | VonhintenHOME`: Looks like they've decided your server's DNS name was a typo |
| 01:33.17 | VonhintenHOME` | oh? |
| 01:33.19 | Cloudwolf_ | vonhintenhome i just disable and then renable my internet on the computer |
| 01:33.22 | Cloudwolf_ | it fixes |
| 01:33.38 | VonhintenHOME` | what do you mean? |
| 01:33.55 | Cloudwolf_ | start |
| 01:34.02 | Cloudwolf_ | connect to |
| 01:34.10 | Cloudwolf_ | all connections |
| 01:34.13 | bleeter | flushdns |
| 01:34.30 | Cloudwolf_ | wifi or lan dpending on which you use right click the icon and do disable then after its disabled do reinable |
| 01:34.39 | Cloudwolf_ | thats all i do and it works decently |
| 01:34.45 | bleeter | VonhintenHOME`: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19581888169&sid=1&pageNo=3#51 maybe? |
| 01:35.02 | bleeter | emberstorm/whirlwind down possibly |
| 01:35.02 | Cloudwolf_ | now i have to figure out WHY my addon just refused to show |
| 01:35.09 | Cloudwolf_ | it says its alpha is 1 it says its there |
| 01:35.12 | Cloudwolf_ | its not showing... |
| 01:35.35 | Yssaril | Cloudwolf: did it actually load? |
| 01:35.42 | Cloudwolf_ | yes |
| 01:35.55 | Cloudwolf_ | if i do /run "globalnameofframe":getalpha it returns 1 |
| 01:36.25 | Yssaril | do a /run "globalnameofframe":IsVisible() |
| 01:36.25 | Dagmar | VonhintenHOME`: I just got confirmation that AT&T and Comcast are in a snit with each other again |
| 01:37.13 | *** join/#wowuidev VonhintenFUCT (n=Kiss@c-98-192-131-177.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 01:37.13 | Shirik | Dagmar: Did AT&T cut off Comcast like they did to 4chan? |
| 01:37.18 | Shirik | because that would be awesome |
| 01:37.46 | Dagmar | No, but there's a bit of a history with Comcast and AT&T's routers having knyptions in the Dallas area |
| 01:37.57 | Dagmar | ...which like, the whole southeastern US routes through to get there practically |
| 01:38.05 | Wobin | that's the weirdest spelling of conniptions I have ever seen |
| 01:38.10 | Cloudwolf_ | it returns a 1 |
| 01:38.23 | Shirik | then it's there |
| 01:38.35 | Cloudwolf_ | and i dont see it any where on my screen |
| 01:38.38 | Shirik | does it have any actual image? |
| 01:38.43 | Cloudwolf_ | it has a texture |
| 01:38.43 | Shirik | e.g., a backdrop? |
| 01:38.43 | Dagmar | Wobin: Well, considering that I've never ever seen it in print before, I assumed it was Yiddish so "correct" spellings are a bit off the table |
| 01:39.01 | Yssaril | Cloudwolf_: does it have a size and a position on the screen? |
| 01:39.01 | Shirik | does it have a size? |
| 01:39.16 | *** join/#wowuidev foxlit (n=foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 01:39.25 | Cloudwolf_ | i have to find the getposition function |
| 01:39.28 | Cloudwolf_ | !api getposition |
| 01:39.29 | lua_bot | Model:GetPosition: Returns the position of the 3D model within the frame (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Model/GetPosition) |
| 01:39.33 | Cloudwolf_ | nope not 3d... |
| 01:39.36 | Shirik | !api GetPoint |
| 01:39.38 | lua_bot | Region:GetPoint: Returns information about one of the region's anchor points (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/GetPoint) |
| 01:39.58 | VonhintenFUCT | Dagmar, where's that info? that AT&T and Comcast are having issues with each other |
| 01:40.18 | Dagmar | Well, you could look at the forums. They're already brimming with homocidal rage. |
| 01:40.28 | Dagmar | ...or you could just traceroute to your server |
| 01:40.30 | Cloudwolf_ | topleft nil topleft 512 383.9999713877 |
| 01:40.48 | Cloudwolf_ | wait why is it topleft nil topleft |
| 01:40.49 | Cloudwolf_ | O.o |
| 01:40.59 | Cloudwolf_ | shoudln't it be topleft nil 512 383.... |
| 01:41.30 | Yssaril | nope you do not have it anchored to anything so it has no position on your screen |
| 01:41.39 | Shirik | no |
| 01:41.39 | Cloudwolf_ | it was working earlier |
| 01:41.43 | Cloudwolf_ | ... |
| 01:41.44 | Shirik | topleft nil topleft |
| 01:42.03 | Cloudwolf_ | again i didn't change a thing from 2 hours ago |
| 01:42.04 | Cloudwolf_ | and it stopped working |
| 01:42.13 | Shirik | and Yssaril, you don't have to anchor to anything |
| 01:42.17 | bleeter | forums go bang? |
| 01:42.33 | Shirik | however, let's go to the next step |
| 01:42.34 | Shirik | before going into that |
| 01:42.38 | Shirik | Cloudwolf_, what is the size? |
| 01:43.00 | Shirik | bleeter: Probably the 50000000000000000000000000 comcast players |
| 01:43.15 | bleeter | Shirik: CSF was exploding just before forums went down |
| 01:43.23 | Cloudwolf_ | 9.59 heigh and 76 wide |
| 01:43.30 | Shirik | comcast casts ddos on blizzard. Blizzard dies. |
| 01:43.41 | Dagmar | VonhintenHOME`: Generally, when the routing topology is "robust" it just means enough of your packets get through to make you *thinK* things are up from a given traceroute |
| 01:43.53 | Dagmar | VonhintenHOME`: However, one example http://pastebin.com/m74b9ff37 |
| 01:44.09 | Shirik | Cloudwolf_: Do you ever make a SetPoint call? |
| 01:44.13 | wsoul | http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f206/54692-coliseum-twin-valkyrs.html |
| 01:44.19 | Cloudwolf_ | titlef:SetPoint("TopLeft",nil,GetScreenWidth()*.5,GetScreenHeight()*.5) |
| 01:44.20 | wsoul | what addons on that video btw |
| 01:44.21 | Dagmar | pos-1-8-0-0-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net to pos-1-8-0-0-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net is how shall we say, HOSED |
| 01:44.23 | Cloudwolf_ | is in my code |
| 01:44.28 | Shirik | why exactly do you do nil? |
| 01:44.28 | wsoul | bartender/EBB and what else |
| 01:44.33 | Cloudwolf_ | not sure why |
| 01:44.34 | Dagmar | er... let's try Vlan549.icore2.DTX-Dallas.as6453.net for the second party |
| 01:44.34 | Shirik | Wait a second |
| 01:44.38 | Shirik | that's just straight up wrong |
| 01:44.38 | Shirik | period |
| 01:44.39 | wsoul | not sure if it is bartender |
| 01:44.40 | Cloudwolf_ | i tried itw ihtout nil and didn't change a thing |
| 01:44.43 | Shirik | You can't do that |
| 01:44.55 | Shirik | You SHOULD replace nil with UIParent |
| 01:44.58 | Shirik | however, more importantly |
| 01:45.03 | Shirik | the third argument is not x |
| 01:45.16 | Shirik | it is what the point is relative to |
| 01:45.24 | Shirik | so it should be "TOPLEFT", UIParent, "TOPLEFT", x, y |
| 01:45.34 | Shirik | however |
| 01:45.39 | Shirik | That too is very odd |
| 01:45.45 | Shirik | why aren't you doing "CENTER", UIParent, "CENTER" |
| 01:45.45 | Cloudwolf_ | this still doesn't show |
| 01:46.08 | Cloudwolf_ | becaue then i have to deal with negatives do i not? to make it position where i want it |
| 01:46.28 | Shirik | well it's relative to the center |
| 01:46.28 | Cloudwolf_ | that would change it to a ++ +- -- -+ grid? |
| 01:46.33 | Dagmar | Hmm... Looks like forum hate has reached critical levels |
| 01:46.40 | Shirik | It's no different from what you would do anyway |
| 01:46.46 | Shirik | instead of GetScreenWidth()*.5 - 4 |
| 01:46.48 | Shirik | you'd just do -4 |
| 01:46.50 | Shirik | or whatever |
| 01:46.58 | Cloudwolf_ | fixed it |
| 01:47.13 | Cloudwolf_ | changed it to titlef:SetPoint("TopLeft",UIparent,"BottomLeft"l,GetScreenWidth()*.5,GetScreenHeight()*.5) |
| 01:47.43 | Cloudwolf_ | cool that also fixed my earlier problem of the frames not scaling in the same direction |
| 01:49.04 | Dagmar | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/forums.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 01:49.05 | Dagmar | Heh |
| 01:49.49 | Shirik | guess they're on comcast |
| 01:50.04 | bleeter | in dallas? |
| 01:50.24 | Dagmar | Looks like either the Comcast users are all raging on the forums at once (possibly) or there's more of an issue than the usual |
| 01:50.38 | Shirik | I believe in the former |
| 01:50.58 | Yssaril | idk i can get to the main site just not the forums may be another issue |
| 01:51.58 | Dagmar | Yeah, too much nerdrage I think |
| 01:52.11 | Dagmar | That dallas link is still dropping more packets than it's letting through |
| 01:52.48 | bleeter | sometimes I wanna shoot my guildies "lol there's no diff between healbot and grid+clique" |
| 01:52.58 | Dagmar | Why don't you |
| 01:53.11 | bleeter | they don't live anywhere near me |
| 01:53.24 | *** join/#wowuidev Vonhinten (n=Kiss@tlh01-01.mask.net.aderant.com) |
| 01:53.34 | Dagmar | So they can't drive to your house and beat you like an orphan? |
| 01:53.40 | Cloudwolf_ | hmm oddd |
| 01:53.41 | Dagmar | Is that a bad thing? |
| 01:53.45 | Cloudwolf_ | after 1 rescale it breaks itself again |
| 01:54.48 | Cloudwolf_ | hmmm how did scaling it break it into doing center center.... |
| 01:55.15 | Vonhinten | I'm going through the work VPN gateway over Level3 net and still can't connect to wow |
| 01:55.19 | Vonhinten | shit is hosed |
| 01:55.20 | Yssaril | Cloudwolf_: did you parent your frame to UIParent? |
| 01:55.26 | Cloudwolf_ | yes i did |
| 01:55.46 | Yssaril | no idea then |
| 01:55.48 | Cloudwolf_ | but somehow it lost its parent O.o |
| 01:55.55 | Cloudwolf_ | why did it lose its parent when scaling?! |
| 01:56.41 | Dagmar | It misbehaved too many times and made it ashamed |
| 01:56.41 | MentalPower | Shirik: whats the command to print the alert message? |
| 01:56.49 | Shirik | I disabled it |
| 01:56.54 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. |
| 01:56.59 | Lopeppeppy | I was just gonna try to guess it. |
| 01:56.59 | MentalPower | bah |
| 01:57.09 | MentalPower | remember the link? |
| 01:57.11 | Shirik | !wowalert US |
| 01:57.14 | Shirik | something like that |
| 01:57.19 | Shirik | ~wowalert |
| 01:57.19 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 01:57.35 | Lopeppeppy | I thought you said you disabled it? |
| 01:57.39 | MentalPower | SERVERALERT: |
| 01:57.39 | Shirik | I did |
| 01:57.40 | MentalPower | August 27, 2009 6:30 PM PST |
| 01:57.40 | Wobin | not on purl |
| 01:57.41 | MentalPower | The following realms are currently undergoing urgent maintenance. We are investigating the issue and will provide further information in about 1 hour. Thank you for your patience. |
| 01:57.50 | MentalPower | his pulled the actual HTML and printed it |
| 01:57.57 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. |
| 01:58.01 | MentalPower | might be related to the forums foo |
| 01:58.05 | Lopeppeppy | I only knew the ~ one. |
| 01:58.14 | Wobin | ~hug purl |
| 01:58.14 | purl | ACTION jumps into purl's lap and huggles and *hugs* purl |
| 01:58.19 | Shirik | mine used to monitor it and then print it out to chat whenever it changed |
| 01:58.34 | Shirik | however, I encountered a bug that was causing too much spam, and haven't tried to fix it yet |
| 01:58.44 | Shirik | it would go back and forth between two messages a lot for some reason |
| 01:58.44 | MentalPower | what bug? |
| 01:58.50 | Shirik | the hash wouldn't match |
| 01:59.15 | Shirik | if you'd like to look at the code, by all means |
| 02:00.07 | MentalPower | sure |
| 02:00.19 | Shirik | This was run in a cron script every minute: http://wowi.pastey.net/123522 |
| 02:00.22 | MentalPower | since I can't login to WoW to work on leveling |
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| 02:02.50 | Shirik | this is the module that handled the server alerts in Shiibot: http://wowi.pastey.net/123523 |
| 02:04.19 | Shirik | interesting security vulnerability in there, hm. |
| 02:04.25 | Shirik | I trust Blizzard enough |
| 02:04.36 | Cloudwolf_ | this is driving me nuts |
| 02:04.50 | Wobin | hehe |
| 02:04.51 | Cloudwolf_ | if i scale this thing it changes its parent to nil and changes itself to center center |
| 02:05.11 | Cloudwolf_ | and i have NO idea why |
| 02:05.12 | Wobin | Shirik: I can see Blizzard inserting haxcode intot their server alerts to break your bot and create a backdoor into your system =) |
| 02:05.17 | Cloudwolf_ | and no idea how to fix it |
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| 02:05.44 | Wobin | Cloudwolf_: don't allow scaling? |
| 02:05.50 | Cloudwolf_ | uhh then it would look retarded? |
| 02:06.01 | Wobin | well.. doesn't it look retarded now? =) |
| 02:06.04 | Cloudwolf_ | because part of the entire point is so people can scale the notepad to look how they want? |
| 02:06.07 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:06.14 | Shirik | yeah I was looking at that too |
| 02:06.29 | Shirik | I'm not exactly sure why I did that |
| 02:06.29 | Cloudwolf_ | ... uh forcing some one to type into anotepad thats only like 75 pixels wide and 75 tall is retarded... |
| 02:06.46 | Cloudwolf_ | and if the title didn't scale with the writing pad |
| 02:06.54 | Cloudwolf_ | then parts would end up overlapping |
| 02:06.57 | foxlit | because .open :read wasn't cool enough, clearly :) |
| 02:07.15 | Wobin | You're clearly not stylish enough, foxlit |
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| 02:08.27 | MentalPower | I'd also change the "for line in md5sum:lines() do" to always read just the first line |
| 02:09.00 | MentalPower | Shirik: question, was the MD5 actually changing or was it comparing to an empty string? |
| 02:09.07 | Shirik | it was changing |
| 02:09.16 | Shirik | but the MD5 seemed to bounce back and forth between two values |
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| 02:09.29 | Dagmar | Joy |
| 02:09.45 | Legorol | can anyone recall what was the shaman talent that used to be in the enhancement tree, pretty high up, and was somehow related to shields and blocking? |
| 02:09.59 | Legorol | i think there used to be a tank-ish talent there, giving you maybe extra block chance or something |
| 02:09.59 | MentalPower | always? or just sometimes? |
| 02:10.06 | Shirik | just sometimes |
| 02:10.09 | Shirik | !reload |
| 02:10.09 | Shiibot | Cannot reload AI. Using fail safes. ai.lua:28: unexpected symbol near ';' |
| 02:10.14 | Cloudwolf_ | maybe i should jsut give up on scaling another element at the same time -_- |
| 02:10.29 | Shirik | !reload |
| 02:10.29 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 02:10.41 | Cloudwolf_ | and just pop it at the right size when it finishes scaling hte importnat part... |
| 02:10.46 | Shirik | I guess we can try that |
| 02:10.52 | Shirik | It's possible it was a synchronization issue |
| 02:10.59 | Shirik | and it was reading the MD5 like in the middle of a write or something |
| 02:11.02 | Wobin | Legorol: I remember that |
| 02:11.05 | Wobin | (in the mountains) |
| 02:11.17 | Wobin | it was second tier iirc |
| 02:11.20 | Shirik | !serveralert US |
| 02:11.20 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: August 27, 2009 6:30 PM PSTThe following realms are currently undergoing urgent maintenance. We are investigating the issue and will provide further information in about 1 hour. Thank you for your patience. Antonidas Anub'arak |
| 02:11.20 | Shiibot | Blackwater Raiders Bladefist Borean Tundra Cairne Cenarion Circle Cenarius Darrowmere Drak'Tharon Drenden Echo Isles Farstriders Fenris Garrosh Hydraxis Hyjal Korialstrasz Lightbringer Maiev Misha Mok'Nathal Moon Guard Nazgrel |
| 02:11.20 | Shiibot | Nesingwary Nordrassil Quel'dorei Ravenholdt Rivendare Shandris Shu'halo Sisters of Elune The Forgotten Coast Tortheldrin Uther Vashj Winterhoof Wyrmrest Accord |
| 02:11.20 | Legorol | yah |
| 02:11.31 | Shirik | Yay spam of server names |
| 02:11.40 | Dagmar | Okay... It's probably time to teach the bot about pastebin. |
| 02:11.46 | Shirik | yeah |
| 02:11.46 | bleeter | 'of' is a server name? ;) |
| 02:11.48 | Legorol | Wobin: but what was it called and what did it do? |
| 02:11.55 | Legorol | if you can remember when was it removed, that'd help too |
| 02:11.57 | tekkub | nah, it's time to teach the bot about elipsis |
| 02:11.59 | tekkub | and a link |
| 02:12.01 | Shirik | !reload |
| 02:12.02 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
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| 02:12.27 | tekkub | !die |
| 02:12.34 | Shirik | nice try |
| 02:12.37 | tekkub | !? |
| 02:12.40 | Shirik | it's !quit, and he only listens to me |
| 02:12.45 | bleeter | !fail |
| 02:12.46 | tekkub | !gquit |
| 02:12.50 | Cloudwolf_ | does any one know why running a scale on a frame would mess up its parenting? |
| 02:12.57 | bleeter | !ragequit |
| 02:13.04 | bleeter | !coffee |
| 02:13.05 | MentalPower | Cloudwolf_: paste some code |
| 02:13.10 | Legorol | Wobin: ha, found it! http://www.wowwiki.com/Shield_Specialization_(shaman_talent) |
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| 02:13.31 | Cloudwolf_ | http://www.pastey.net/123524 |
| 02:13.40 | Cloudwolf_ | im scaling at like hte last 3 lines |
| 02:13.40 | Cloudwolf_ | of the code |
| 02:13.44 | Shirik | I'll even tell you what he's looking for |
| 02:13.45 | Shirik | if msgCode == "PRIVMSG" and mask:match("Shirik[^!]-![in]=[^@]+@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik") then |
| 02:13.46 | Legorol | funny thing is, no patch notes ever mentioned it being gone :) |
| 02:13.46 | Shirik | glhf |
| 02:13.51 | bleeter | Shirik: kinda funny how Blizz didn't set up a twitter service for Alert ;) |
| 02:14.11 | MentalPower | Shirik: did you patch it, or just re-enabling it to see if it does it again? |
| 02:14.15 | Dagmar | Think for just a moment what that would turn into |
| 02:14.22 | Shirik | MentalPower: I patched it, tested it, then disabled it again |
| 02:14.42 | Wobin | Legorol: http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?category_select_id=13&category_show_all=0&view=Talents.View.Beta |
| 02:14.46 | bleeter | Dagmar: and? :P |
| 02:14.55 | MentalPower | Cloudwolf_: I thought I would never say this, but sometimes XML is better... |
| 02:14.56 | Shirik | I think I would like to redo it by putting it into a pastey or link or something |
| 02:15.01 | foxlit | Cloudwolf_: protip: mentioning "scale" when you're not actually doing anything with SetScale is silly. |
| 02:15.17 | Cloudwolf_ | ok "setting the size" |
| 02:15.23 | Legorol | Wobin: which beta is that? vanilla? |
| 02:15.30 | Wobin | I imagine =) |
| 02:15.51 | Wobin | I need a healing shield =( |
| 02:16.00 | Wobin | I have an offhand |
| 02:16.00 | MentalPower | Cloudwolf_: titlef:SetPoint("TopLeft",UIParent,"BottomLeft",GetScreenWidth()*.5,GetScreenHeight()*.5) <---Whats wrong with CENTER? |
| 02:16.07 | Wobin | but it does nothing for survivability |
| 02:16.10 | Shirik | I said that already |
| 02:16.11 | Shirik | :( |
| 02:16.12 | Cloudwolf_ | -_- |
| 02:16.22 | Wobin | (granted, in raid if I get hit I'm fairly much dead anyway...) |
| 02:16.22 | tekkub | this is going to sound stupid... |
| 02:16.27 | Cloudwolf_ | because then ia hve to use center on the other frame that im actualy resizing |
| 02:16.27 | Legorol | Wobin: it was still around in TBC at some point, i know because i specced it |
| 02:16.32 | Legorol | i just don't remember when it was gone |
| 02:16.40 | Cloudwolf_ | and then ia hve to deal with more calculations to try and place said frame in the correct location |
| 02:16.45 | Cloudwolf_ | so i dont get overlaps |
| 02:16.45 | tekkub | why aren't you anchoring those frames so that the UI renderer resizes them for you |
| 02:16.46 | Legorol | Wobin: it's also really fun if you look at that beta enhancement tree, shamans were meant to tank |
| 02:16.50 | Wobin | Legorol: I haven't specced enh for way too long to remember |
| 02:17.21 | Legorol | you'd take shield spec, imp. stoneskin, anticipation (talent giving defense at the time!), then parry, which was a prerequisite for toughness |
| 02:17.35 | Cloudwolf_ | .... -_- 1 im f**kin stupid at this im not used to wow's flavor of lua worth a damn. 2 because i dont know how to do what you just said tekkub |
| 02:17.40 | Legorol | all the typical tanking talents (block, defense, extra armor) are in there |
| 02:17.55 | MentalPower | WoW's flavor of Lua? |
| 02:17.56 | tekkub | take some time to figure out how anchors work then :) |
| 02:18.10 | Dagmar | Tutti-frutti |
| 02:18.11 | tekkub | they're wonderful once you ge tthe hang of them |
| 02:18.21 | Legorol | Cloudwolf_: uh what? WoW's "flavour" is an extension of 5.1 |
| 02:18.26 | tekkub | plus I"m sure the renderer code is faster than lua's sizer would be |
| 02:18.27 | MentalPower | its 5.1 with a taint system added (which doesn't apply here) |
| 02:18.35 | Legorol | so if you know standard 5.1, there is nothing to be used to |
| 02:18.45 | tekkub | taint applies everywhere! |
| 02:18.47 | tekkub | want to see mine? |
| 02:18.50 | Cloudwolf_ | legorol .... im used to using garrysmods lua style |
| 02:19.07 | Legorol | what's that |
| 02:19.11 | Legorol | google time! |
| 02:19.23 | Seerah | found it! http://www.garrysmod.com/ |
| 02:19.26 | tekkub | maybe this garrysmods is the one with the special lua? |
| 02:19.35 | Cloudwolf_ | garrys mod is a sandbox game for the source engine that allows you to create almost anything |
| 02:20.10 | Legorol | what do you mean by source engine |
| 02:20.11 | Legorol | which engine |
| 02:20.15 | Legorol | anyway nvm |
| 02:20.17 | Cloudwolf_ | orangebox currently |
| 02:20.30 | Cloudwolf_ | same engine that team fortress 2 runs on and half life 2 episode 2 |
| 02:20.31 | Legorol | i have no idea what you are talking about, so nvm |
| 02:20.45 | Legorol | see i didn't even realise you are talking about FPS-es |
| 02:21.12 | A-KO | seriously |
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| 02:21.13 | MentalPower | Garry's Mod uses Lua, same as WoW. The diff is in the API |
| 02:21.15 | A-KO | Comcast is fucking heroic |
| 02:21.28 | Wobin | A-KO: full of failpugs? |
| 02:21.28 | Legorol | anyway, what MentalPower said |
| 02:21.41 | A-KO | full of fail engineers who can't keep their shit online :P |
| 02:21.42 | Legorol | they might use different versions of Lua, and might have different custom extensions to it |
| 02:21.45 | A-KO | I feel bad for blizzard tonight |
| 02:21.45 | Legorol | but Lua is Lua |
| 02:21.51 | MentalPower | WoW uses an API that is definately Lua-centric, whereas GM uses an API that is a *very* thin wrapper around Source's C++ API |
| 02:21.53 | Shirik | Does anyone know of a code coverage tool which works for C++ and is either open source or free for open source projects? |
| 02:22.17 | Cloudwolf_ | and this is why i have issues with some of this shit thats giving me a headache |
| 02:22.32 | MentalPower | Shirik: Doesn't atlassian have one? |
| 02:22.34 | Cloudwolf_ | this all started from saying why not center..... or using osme default render thing... |
| 02:22.38 | Shirik | I was going to use it |
| 02:22.41 | Shirik | was getting all excited |
| 02:22.45 | Shirik | and then found out it's Java only |
| 02:22.57 | MentalPower | oh... |
| 02:22.58 | MentalPower | nm then |
| 02:23.21 | Cloudwolf_ | and im trying to figure out why setting the width of a frame chagnes its parent its points and everything else about the GetPoint() info |
| 02:23.31 | MentalPower | Cloudwolf_: anyways, your problem is that you really don't have a "parent" frame per-se, so your frame creation is much more complicated than it should be |
| 02:24.28 | MentalPower | what you should do is have a big (invisible) frame, and then attach everything relative to that frame, instead of trying to build it relative to the screen |
| 02:25.02 | MentalPower | your resizing code should then *only* concern itself with the big frame, and the WoW renderer will do the heavy lifting for you |
| 02:25.11 | Cloudwolf_ | doesn't explain to me why it breaks the SetPoint when i change the size of a frame.... |
| 02:25.55 | MentalPower | cause you have two frames trying to resize each other methinks (I can't really tell without loading it into WoW and that's impossible ATM) |
| 02:26.14 | Cloudwolf_ | not sure how i would have 2 frames trying to resize eachtoher |
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| 02:27.10 | Cloudwolf_ | im manualy resizing one frame and as that frame changes size im trying to change the width of hte parent of it by manualy changing its width |
| 02:28.47 | bleeter | servers back up? |
| 02:29.31 | MentalPower | resize the parent, not the child directly, if you resize the child, it becomes dislodged from the parent, since its coords are relative to the parent (originally) |
| 02:29.43 | MentalPower | bleeter: nop |
| 02:29.47 | Cloudwolf_ | i forced it after it finsihed scaling to reset its co ords |
| 02:29.59 | MentalPower | bleeter: maybe |
| 02:30.01 | Cloudwolf_ | and i dont wnat to scale hte parent as if i do that then it wont gain any height |
| 02:30.04 | MentalPower | bleeter: yes |
| 02:30.08 | Cloudwolf_ | cus i dont want the title frame to gain height only width... |
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| 02:30.50 | bleeter | MentalPower: lol |
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| 02:31.24 | bleeter | Shirik: not gcov? |
| 02:33.16 | MentalPower | Cloudwolf_: the titlebar is a separate frame (or texture), set its topleft and topright anchors to match the parent, but set its height explicitly, that way it won't gain height |
| 02:33.21 | MentalPower | same with the scrobar |
| 02:33.26 | batrick | http://imgur.com/9zbiP.jpg |
| 02:33.27 | MentalPower | scrollbar |
| 02:33.56 | MentalPower | batrick: that's... random... cute and geeky, but still random |
| 02:33.56 | Shirik | never heard of it; thanks bleeter |
| 02:33.58 | Cloudwolf_ | that doesn't tell me how i would be able to move the title |
| 02:34.03 | Cloudwolf_ | and sitll ahve the bottom part move also |
| 02:34.26 | Cloudwolf_ | the title IS the parent so that the EditBox can move properly |
| 02:34.29 | MentalPower | move the title? like separate it from the window or something else? |
| 02:34.47 | Cloudwolf_ | The title is how im moving my editbox around |
| 02:35.10 | Cloudwolf_ | the editbox is waht i want to be able to scale in x and y but i only want hte title to be scaled in x |
| 02:35.19 | Cloudwolf_ | or sized in x or waht ever you want to call it |
| 02:35.44 | Kraps | so this guy is gonna grow weed because its legally his property and he can do whatever he wants? |
| 02:36.11 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, good luck with that defense. |
| 02:36.39 | Kraps | theres a couple of potheads in my mara group |
| 02:36.50 | Hirsute | That's pretty fail. Hope he enjoys the company of courser men... |
| 02:36.51 | MentalPower | make the title transparent to mouse events, and use the parent (which eats mouse events) to move the window around as for the editbox, since it also eats mouse events and its above the parent frame, you wont be able to drag the window around using it |
| 02:37.03 | bleeter | Shirik: years ago it couldn't do shared libs, iirc.. no idea about now |
| 02:37.11 | Shirik | I don't really care about that |
| 02:37.47 | bleeter | I've not used it in a few years, either. was a tiny project, dunno it's true value. but, it met your specifications of free 'coz it's with GCC ;) |
| 02:38.09 | MentalPower | Cloudwolf_: basically what I'm saying is keep the relationship between parent and child frames linear, and always resize/move the parent, not the children |
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| 02:38.56 | Hirsute | s/courser/coarser/ |
| 02:39.25 | bleeter | s/coarser/more coarse/ |
| 02:39.33 | bleeter | gah |
| 02:39.36 | Lopeppeppy | coarser/vile/depraved/etc. |
| 02:39.36 | bleeter | s/more/moar/ |
| 02:40.05 | Hirsute | Bleeter: Actually for all english words 2 syllables and shorter the proper comparative is to add -er |
| 02:40.20 | bleeter | Hirsute: I was going for the 'moar coarse' but failed |
| 02:40.32 | Hirsute | Oh, well in that case, you win. |
| 02:40.36 | Lopeppeppy | gooder! |
| 02:40.41 | Lopeppeppy | eviler! |
| 02:40.46 | bleeter | betterer |
| 02:40.48 | MentalPower | Cloudwolf_: and BTW, for this addon, XML is a much better choice, or if you want to stick to Lua, may I suggest Constructor http://svn.norganna.org/libs/trunk/Constructor/ |
| 02:40.51 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 02:40.55 | Kraps | kalimdor officially sucks |
| 02:40.56 | Lopeppeppy | There are always exceptions. |
| 02:40.59 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, yes it sucks |
| 02:41.04 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: u r teh exception |
| 02:41.15 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, thanks bleeter! |
| 02:41.25 | Hirsute | Lopeppeppy: Those are technically not exceptions, just ones that sound much, much worse when rendered correctly. (Like funner) ;) |
| 02:41.47 | Kraps | blondes are more funner |
| 02:41.48 | Hirsute | takes off his anal grammar nazi hat. |
| 02:42.09 | bleeter | "Your Majesty, you are like a stream of bat's piss." |
| 02:42.16 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 02:42.39 | Cloudwolf_ | grr i even changed this around and it still breaks where it needs to be... |
| 02:42.55 | Hirsute | You'd think I was taught grammar by someone who took the time to ensure that we knew the proper plural for Octopus was Octopods, and that alright is *not* all right. |
| 02:42.55 | Kraps | Thy bones are marrowless, thy blood is cold. |
| 02:43.07 | Kraps | [You] live in the rank sweat of an enseamed bed, |
| 02:43.09 | Kraps | Stew'd in corruption, honeying and making love ove the nasty sty! |
| 02:43.38 | Kraps | Shakespeare is teh shit |
| 02:43.40 | bleeter | Hirsute: don't start me on people expecting us to learn pluralisation rules of all foreign words absorbed into English ;) |
| 02:43.52 | Kraps | Thy head stands so tickle on thy shoulders, that a milkmaid, if she be in love, may sigh it off. |
| 02:44.03 | Kraps | http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/index.html |
| 02:44.27 | Hirsute | bleeter: Heh. The only one that really still gets my hackles up that she taught me was the now commonly accepted use of the word "comprise" |
| 02:44.43 | Lopeppeppy | comprise, make up. |
| 02:44.55 | Legorol | there's something... weird about sending your L23 alt 300g, making it extremely rich, and not even putting a dent in your 80s finances |
| 02:45.04 | Hirsute | Lopeppeppy: That's the commonly accepted, but not historically correct, use. |
| 02:45.22 | Lopeppeppy | History is never correct, it's implied. |
| 02:45.54 | Hirsute | Previously the word was only correctly used in almost the opposite sense: The *whole* comprises the parts. |
| 02:46.20 | Lopeppeppy | A lot of words mean different things in different contexts, or take on a slang meaning that is centered on a specific era. "yellow" someone was talking about the other day. |
| 02:46.25 | bleeter | Hirsute: forums/fora is one that's near guaranteed to get me frothing ;) iirc OED is moving in the direction of 'having to learn every external language that's had a word absorbed into English merely so English can correctly pluralise a word is clearly stupid, therefore... standard 's' should be the go' or words to that effect |
| 02:46.50 | Hirsute | heh. |
| 02:46.52 | Cloudwolf_ | .......*puts a gun to his head*.... |
| 02:46.54 | bleeter | hence, tsunami (singular), tsunamis (plural) in English |
| 02:47.00 | Cloudwolf_ | ~russianroullete |
| 02:47.02 | Hirsute | *nod* |
| 02:47.04 | bleeter | otherwise we have to learn Japanese ;) |
| 02:47.04 | Cloudwolf_ | ~russianroulette |
| 02:47.08 | Cloudwolf_ | meh |
| 02:47.09 | Hirsute | ~roulette |
| 02:47.10 | purl | ACTION watches hirsute pull the trigger: Click! |
| 02:47.32 | Cloudwolf_ | !roulette |
| 02:47.35 | Cloudwolf_ | ~roulette |
| 02:47.36 | purl | ACTION watches cloudwolf_ pull the trigger: Click! |
| 02:47.42 | Legorol | bleeter: some of us don't, and besides, it's a good thing |
| 02:47.46 | Cloudwolf_ | .... guess i live another day |
| 02:47.55 | bleeter | is the plural of compromise, compromouses? |
| 02:48.02 | Cloudwolf_ | and have to FIGURE OUT WHY THE F THIS KEEPS BREAKING! |
| 02:48.03 | Legorol | compromii |
| 02:48.08 | Hirsute | I just happen to really like the historical use of the word: My library comprises hundreds of books on different topics, including a few shelves of dictionaries. |
| 02:48.13 | Legorol | (i have no idea, i just made that up) |
| 02:48.24 | bleeter | Legorol: orly? |
| 02:48.41 | Dagmar | Collected them for a color theme, did you? |
| 02:48.47 | Legorol | bleeter: hell yes, watching anime in original ftw |
| 02:49.05 | Legorol | english subs (even very good fansubs) and especially dubs just lose the touch |
| 02:49.47 | bleeter | Legorol: not all of us have the time to learn every language that's had a word absorbed into English :P |
| 02:50.02 | Legorol | i agree, but i was talking japanese specifically ;) |
| 02:50.11 | Legorol | worth knowing! |
| 02:50.41 | bleeter | oh wow.. this... is.. just... wow |
| 02:50.43 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19595259427&sid=1 |
| 02:50.52 | bleeter | "The values displayed by the authenticator are not, in fact, random. In fact, every set of digits an authenticator displays is a subsequence of pi. " |
| 02:51.22 | Legorol | ROFL: i was running around exodar, jumped off a ledge intending to land on a lower one, missed, and landed halfway down that pit in the center |
| 02:51.27 | ScytheBlade1 | classy trolling there, bleeter |
| 02:51.29 | Legorol | [Going Down?] just popped up |
| 02:51.54 | ScytheBlade1 | well, not you, but the OP |
| 02:52.03 | Legorol | the OP is right! |
| 02:52.12 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: indeed |
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| 02:52.51 | Legorol | i think that's an awesome troll |
| 02:53.02 | Legorol | especially because of the bracketed last line |
| 02:53.12 | Hirsute | bleeter: win for the OP. Fail for everyone else in that thread. |
| 02:53.17 | Legorol | i agree |
| 02:53.27 | Lopeppeppy | G'night, everypeople. |
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| 02:53.36 | bleeter | couple of people got it ;) |
| 02:53.38 | Legorol | the bracketed last line is a meta-joke, i love it |
| 02:53.41 | bleeter | not many, but a couple |
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| 02:55.11 | Cloudwolf_ | HUZZAH! |
| 02:55.16 | Cloudwolf_ | only took me like 2 hours... |
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| 02:56.14 | Cloudwolf_ | now all i gota do is add the ability to save and load stuff lol |
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| 02:57.03 | bleeter | heh the GM played it safe... pretty sure he knows it's a troll but yeah played it safe nice one :) |
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| 03:05.25 | Legorol | sooo, Ghost Wolf learnt at the same level i can buy a mount, is slower and takes longer to cast. bye bye wolfie :) |
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| 03:06.37 | Shirik | Legorol: It wasn't always like that :) |
| 03:06.44 | Legorol | aye i knw |
| 03:06.50 | Shirik | next you'll hear "wtf I should get ghost wolf at 10" |
| 03:06.51 | Shirik | ... |
| 03:07.03 | Shirik | and then I'll be all "back in my day.........." |
| 03:07.50 | Legorol | hehhe |
| 03:07.58 | Legorol | back in my day, the level cap was 30 :o) |
| 03:08.20 | Shirik | Anyone here use mercurial? |
| 03:08.21 | Legorol | or was it 40? can't remember |
| 03:08.31 | Legorol | early beta opened with a 30 cap i think |
| 03:08.58 | bleeter | Legorol: can't spec in to instant wolf and cast in combat? |
| 03:09.10 | Legorol | bleeter: i know, i know |
| 03:09.17 | bleeter | Legorol: yeah... still |
| 03:09.28 | Legorol | screw the hippies, PvP and you :P |
| 03:09.28 | bleeter | Legorol: druids had similar issue when mounts went to 30, travel form n all |
| 03:09.39 | bleeter | haha you love it! :P |
| 03:10.03 | Legorol | love what? |
| 03:10.19 | bleeter | the things you're screwing :P |
| 03:10.31 | Legorol | except for the hippies, yes |
| 03:12.29 | Legorol | hm, question/idea: would it be possible to write an action bar addon that displayed all six default bars, and when you flip action bar page, it would highlight the current one (say colour or border) instead of exchanging buttons |
| 03:12.43 | Legorol | i guess it should be |
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| 03:22.31 | Cloudwolf_ | !api getpoint |
| 03:22.31 | lua_bot | Region:GetPoint: Returns information about one of the region's anchor points (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/GetPoint) |
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| 03:31.05 | Shirik | wow... |
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| 03:31.12 | Shirik | I turned on Microsoft narrator |
| 03:31.18 | Shirik | it gets very mad at IRC |
| 03:31.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik sucks |
| 03:31.27 | Shirik | It tries to pronounce the topic of this channel |
| 03:31.35 | Shirik | which... does not go well |
| 03:31.52 | Thunder_Child | you dont go well |
| 03:32.20 | Shirik | I go very well |
| 03:32.31 | Shirik | just call me lax |
| 03:32.59 | Thunder_Child | no i dont think i am going to call you the los angeles airport |
| 03:33.23 | Shirik | no that would be laxative... |
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| 03:36.22 | Adys | how do you pass an arg to a shell script? |
| 03:36.23 | Adys | like |
| 03:36.33 | ScytheBlade1 | ./whatever.sh arg1 arg2 arg3 |
| 03:36.37 | Adys | yeah but |
| 03:37.00 | Adys | ./sexleg.sh 123 == wget google.com/sexleg/foo.123 |
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| 03:37.32 | ScytheBlade1 | 4 params |
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| 03:37.59 | bleeter | this thread is going well mmmm http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19595379428&sid=1 |
| 03:38.13 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: I mean, how do you grab it from the shell script? |
| 03:38.14 | Adys | $1 ? |
| 03:38.18 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 03:38.27 | bleeter | Adys: yup |
| 03:38.51 | bleeter | Adys: $0 is the script name itself, $1 - $x are the args |
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| 03:45.16 | Hirsute | bleeter: Wow. That thread is... just wow. |
| 03:48.53 | Cloudwolf_ | lol i like how bullwinkel is exactly how he describes vrak strong ego no logic. |
| 03:50.03 | Adys | its called a troll |
| 03:50.20 | ScytheBlade1 | that's no troll, that's just a tard |
| 03:50.35 | Cloudwolf_ | i agree with scytheblade |
| 03:50.41 | Hirsute | g'night all. I'm going to go sleep and dream about douche nozzles getting banned from forums (or fora, if you prefer) |
| 03:50.43 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1++ |
| 03:51.06 | Hirsute | Wouldn't that just be ScytheBlade2? |
| 03:51.39 | Kraps | do cat druids have an aoe? |
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| 03:52.36 | Kraps | is that a no? |
| 03:52.46 | Hirsute | Not that I'm aware of, but I don't play a drood |
| 03:52.48 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Dagmar |
| 03:52.49 | purl | Dagmar: FAIL! |
| 03:53.01 | Cloudwolf_ | kraps i think they ahve a 180 swipe |
| 03:53.05 | Cloudwolf_ | where as bears have a 360 swipe |
| 03:53.10 | ScytheBlade1 | heh @ me++ |
| 03:53.35 | Hirsute | *grin* |
| 03:54.45 | Cloudwolf_ | gnight folks |
| 03:54.59 | Dagmar | Not to be confused with hunter bears, which do not have a 360 degree swipe |
| 03:55.01 | Cloudwolf_ | i got part of the functionality of my addonw orking now i just gota add saving and loading lol |
| 03:55.20 | Cloudwolf_ | dagmar but gorillaz got a 360 stomp |
| 03:55.28 | Dagmar | This would be why I don't have a bear |
| 03:56.08 | Dagmar | It's much more egalitarian to hit everyone equally, not just the mobs privledged enough to be in the front |
| 03:56.57 | Kraps | Dagmar: dk much? |
| 04:04.35 | Adys | someone help me out |
| 04:04.35 | Adys | http://pastebin.com/d1256cba1 |
| 04:04.35 | Adys | I dont understand what he wants. |
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| 04:07.55 | bleeter | Adys: he wants to substitue "[url ]http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/" for "[MMOChamp]" |
| 04:08.06 | bleeter | ie, do what you told him but super-lazy way |
| 04:08.37 | bleeter | I ain't used it, but far as I can tell he needs to l2phpbb |
| 04:08.58 | Adys | but |
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| 04:09.04 | Adys | hes talking about his forum |
| 04:09.18 | Adys | I mean I cant do anything about it |
| 04:09.39 | bleeter | welcome to the wonderful world of.. customer support |
| 04:09.44 | Adys | :( |
| 04:09.49 | Yssaril | just tell him to ask on the phpbb forums |
| 04:09.56 | bleeter | where customers will demand you fix stuff that's totally within their own control and nothing to do with you ;) |
| 04:10.09 | Adys | no but I wasnt sure what he was asking at all |
| 04:10.12 | Adys | I still am not. |
| 04:10.29 | bleeter | Adys: I'm pretty sure he's asking for you to custom code his phpbb |
| 04:10.52 | bleeter | would seem Yssaril agrees with my interpretation |
| 04:11.58 | Adys | I dont know |
| 04:11.59 | bleeter | Adys: he's just mistaken thinking it's a search of your DB, when in fact he needs to build a custom tag to replicate most of the URL you've already given |
| 04:12.11 | Adys | I dont think he understands that he needs to modify phpbb |
| 04:12.11 | Adys | yea |
| 04:12.17 | Yssaril | adys he wants to add a custom tag that magically makes it into a mmodb link |
| 04:12.41 | bleeter | yeah he wants a custom tag that magically searches mmodb and returns a full link if it's found |
| 04:12.44 | Yssaril | as such this has nothing to do with you and everything to do with how his bb works |
| 04:13.11 | bleeter | and how he wants multiple results interpreted and displayed |
| 04:13.22 | Yssaril | bleeter: lol at similar wording :) |
| 04:13.52 | bleeter | the key part in his phrasing is 'essentially starts a small script that goes and looks for Ashbringer on the MMO-champ db' << he wants this done |
| 04:14.24 | bleeter | Adys: basically, not your problem, really. he needs phpbb help ;) |
| 04:14.36 | Adys | I just wanted to make sure |
| 04:14.44 | Adys | by the way |
| 04:14.45 | Adys | OMG PANDA |
| 04:14.46 | Adys | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=101247.0 |
| 04:14.48 | bleeter | Adys: :) glad to help |
| 04:15.28 | Adys | WOAH |
| 04:15.37 | Adys | that's one aggressive cache clear |
| 04:17.09 | Wobin | omg |
| 04:17.10 | Wobin | PANDA |
| 04:17.15 | bleeter | Adys: very sexy monk any infos yet on how it's obtained? |
| 04:17.21 | Wobin | how do we get this goddamn panda pet? |
| 04:17.38 | Adys | hey chill we posted that like 10 min ago |
| 04:17.50 | bleeter | Adys: lol no probs |
| 04:17.53 | Wobin | pft |
| 04:17.59 | bleeter | Adys: just thought someone may have discovered, was all ;) |
| 04:18.24 | Wobin | cause omg panda =) |
| 04:19.26 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:19.29 | Shirik | mercurial's FAQ is fun |
| 04:19.33 | Shirik | 4.12. I committed a change containing nuclear launch codes, how do I delete it permanently? |
| 04:19.53 | ScytheBlade1 | 'very carefully' |
| 04:19.56 | Adys | A: Launch a nuclear bomb on the central repo |
| 04:20.13 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: oh yeah, 'we' use hg over at #guifications ;) |
| 04:20.17 | bleeter | bah |
| 04:20.18 | bleeter | Shirik: ^^ |
| 04:20.20 | Adys | bleeter: gtfo then. |
| 04:20.26 | Adys | terrible |
| 04:20.45 | Shirik | bleeter: You should direct that at ScytheBlade1 actually |
| 04:20.50 | Shirik | SEE SCYTHEBLADE1 |
| 04:20.58 | ScytheBlade1 | what? |
| 04:21.03 | Shirik | hg is good :( |
| 04:21.09 | Wobin | I like hg |
| 04:21.24 | ScytheBlade1 | If you have to keep justifying it, you're not convinced yourself |
| 04:21.38 | Shirik | well I haven't sufficiently used it yet :P |
| 04:21.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Then stop trying to convince me when I had no real greviance in the first place ;) |
| 04:22.27 | bleeter | they went through several different systems before settling on it |
| 04:22.41 | bleeter | been so long since I comitted code, wouldn't know =) |
| 04:23.22 | bleeter | Adys: mmo forums autodetect summertime changeovers kthx |
| 04:23.38 | bleeter | Adys: I was looknig at that panda thread 'wut adys says 10 mins ago yet is posted in future???' lol |
| 04:25.59 | bleeter | mm pet KT |
| 04:26.36 | Adys | also |
| 04:26.39 | Adys | i dont wanna say anything but |
| 04:26.40 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/c/36912/chen-stormstout/ |
| 04:31.27 | bleeter | Adys: oO |
| 04:31.51 | bleeter | Adys: Oo |
| 04:32.01 | bleeter | and may I say.... OoOoOoOoOoO |
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| 04:34.16 | Thunder_Child | and may i |
| 04:34.19 | Thunder_Child | ~lart bleeter |
| 04:34.19 | purl | teaches bleeter that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 04:34.53 | MentalPower | So I just learned that my guild is changing websites... I'm looking for examples on "well designed" guild websites to show the idiot who thought that http://emeralddreamguild.org (new) is better than http://www.emeralddream.org (current) |
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| 04:36.22 | Arrowmaster | they are both rather bad but why switching domains? |
| 04:37.00 | Gnarfoz | I didn't wanna say it |
| 04:37.00 | Gnarfoz | ;o |
| 04:37.22 | Wobin | the layout of the new one is less intuitive as to what it's trying to display |
| 04:37.42 | Wobin | eg, what order are the articles in the middle in? left to right then top to bottom? Left column then right column? |
| 04:39.23 | Arrowmaster | the old one is ugly but its to the point |
| 04:39.30 | Thunder_Child | i have yet to see a good guild webpage |
| 04:39.34 | Arrowmaster | the new one is cluttered with useless crap like a twitter feed |
| 04:40.09 | MentalPower | Arrowmaster: the domain thing is temporary |
| 04:42.01 | MentalPower | so, anyone have links for guild websites? |
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| 04:45.04 | Gnarfoz | any EQDKP Plus website |
| 04:45.14 | Gnarfoz | and... hm |
| 04:45.37 | Gnarfoz | www.wowprogress.com -> click the names of the top 25 guilds -> check if they have an URL in there -> visit |
| 04:46.28 | bleeter | http://gizmodo.com/5347365/take-five-minutes-to-watch-100-years-of-visual-effects |
| 04:50.23 | Adys | very cool |
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| 04:56.46 | Gnarfoz | as the description says, the tune is also nice |
| 04:56.58 | Adys | Yeah |
| 04:57.08 | Adys | oo |
| 04:57.09 | Adys | hd |
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| 04:59.39 | Adys | Rods and Cones - Blue Man Group |
| 05:02.17 | Iriel | I likes me the blue man group |
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| 05:10.22 | Thunder_Child | i need a good strategy game i havent played yet |
| 05:10.25 | MentalPower | Gnarfoz: thanks! |
| 05:11.19 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: I'm guessing you've played civ? |
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| 05:11.49 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, quite |
| 05:12.01 | Thunder_Child | though i was thinking more rts than tbs |
| 05:12.29 | Iriel | Age of Empires? Rise of Legends? |
| 05:12.36 | Thunder_Child | played and played |
| 05:12.39 | wobin1 | SMAC? |
| 05:12.47 | Thunder_Child | eh? |
| 05:12.56 | Wobin | Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri |
| 05:12.59 | Adys | HoN! |
| 05:13.03 | Thunder_Child | yes nad yes |
| 05:13.09 | Thunder_Child | though HoN isnt start |
| 05:13.11 | Thunder_Child | and* |
| 05:13.14 | Wobin | you have a beta key? |
| 05:13.15 | Adys | isnt start? |
| 05:13.18 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 05:13.23 | Thunder_Child | strat* |
| 05:13.49 | Iriel | Dwarf Fortress (in Dwarf mode) -- Strategyish |
| 05:14.11 | Adys | better idea |
| 05:14.15 | Thunder_Child | next you will be calling battlezone a strat game |
| 05:14.16 | Adys | someone makes a rts minigame in wow |
| 05:14.53 | bleeter | MOAR HOGGER |
| 05:15.16 | Thunder_Child | Adys, like Shirik needs something else to get addicted to while in wow not playing it |
| 05:15.33 | Shirik | ? |
| 05:15.38 | Thunder_Child | peggle |
| 05:16.38 | Adys | more seriously a rts based on wow's engine could be cool |
| 05:16.43 | Adys | i mean |
| 05:16.45 | Adys | other than wc3. |
| 05:16.53 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 05:20.19 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Still around? |
| 05:32.32 | bleeter | hah http://twitter.com/stviewonder |
| 05:33.21 | Shirik | wtf |
| 05:36.53 | Shirik | bleeter, you find the wierdest shit |
| 05:37.00 | Shirik | well, maybe with the exception of mikma |
| 05:37.44 | Adys | Shirik: http://www.weird-shit.net/ |
| 05:37.55 | Shirik | .... |
| 05:38.01 | jaxdahl | Great Success ! |
| 05:38.01 | jaxdahl | Apache is working on your cPanel® and WHM Server |
| 05:38.10 | Adys | came up top googling "the weirdest shit on the internet" |
| 05:39.32 | Adys | so much porn coming up when googling that. |
| 05:40.05 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:41.30 | bleeter | Shirik: I've been online a looong time, I know a lot of people who are into weird shit :P |
| 05:41.51 | bleeter | thankfully, there are more people out there creating weird shit every day :D |
| 05:43.56 | Shirik | omg |
| 05:43.58 | Shirik | xkcd tie |
| 05:44.02 | Shirik | I might have to get one of those |
| 05:44.41 | bleeter | I was thinking that, then I realised people would lift it to look for the ALT text |
| 05:45.38 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, you would however want that on a kilt |
| 05:45.53 | bleeter | nou |
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| 06:01.30 | Thunder_Child | so very true...yet people dont believe me when i tell them http://www.xkcd.com/627/ |
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| 06:10.42 | bleeter | Shirik: just for you, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RgL2MKfWTo |
| 06:13.48 | Thunder_Child | as funny as that is, thats a reason why i hate reality TV |
| 06:16.45 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: that's not funny, that takes serious talent |
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| 06:18.08 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, not really. |
| 06:18.59 | Etern8ty | I have a dumb question how do make a script call for a mount or a spell in a standard macro i would just use /cast Pinto obviously thats not goign to work |
| 06:20.32 | Arrowmaster | !api callcom |
| 06:20.32 | lua_bot | CallCompanion: Summons a non-combat pet or mount (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CallCompanion) |
| 06:22.32 | Etern8ty | that works thanks |
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| 06:26.30 | bleeter | Shirik: and http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/8/27/128959082417255693.jpg |
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| 06:40.15 | MentalPower | Antiarc: ping |
| 06:40.26 | Antiarc | pong kinda |
| 06:40.28 | Antiarc | doign general |
| 06:42.49 | MentalPower | Antiarc: are you the author of the WoW Armory tools thingy? (wow.tachyonsix.com) |
| 06:43.11 | Antiarc | That's my general wow domain, but yeah |
| 06:43.37 | MentalPower | the resirect to mmo-champion is broken |
| 06:43.41 | MentalPower | redirect* |
| 06:43.52 | MentalPower | at any rate, what did it do exactly? |
| 06:44.26 | Antiarc | Just lots of armory parsing stuff. Those sig images you see all over were the most popular piece |
| 06:44.59 | MentalPower | what was it written in> |
| 06:45.00 | MentalPower | ? |
| 06:45.08 | Antiarc | PHP, heh |
| 06:45.27 | MentalPower | did it do guild bank stuff at all? |
| 06:45.53 | Antiarc | I had a separate tool for that way back when |
| 06:45.58 | Antiarc | Back before the armory, heh |
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| 08:23.31 | Wobin | Tonight marks the great migration from WinXP to Windows7 |
| 08:23.36 | Wobin | (for me) |
| 08:23.45 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 08:23.48 | Elkano | hf |
| 08:24.08 | Wobin | hf? |
| 08:28.27 | Elkano | have fun |
| 08:29.06 | Wobin | oh I -will-! |
| 08:29.16 | Wobin | (for various values of 'fun') |
| 08:31.32 | Fisker | Wobin ! |
| 08:31.34 | Fisker | fail |
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| 08:53.44 | SubmergedGL | I have a quick question.. is there ANY function to identify who is the master looter? Or even an event? |
| 08:55.55 | haste | GetLootMethod(), PARTY_LOOT_METHOD_CHANGED, PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED |
| 08:58.25 | Cide | I don't think so |
| 08:58.33 | Cide | I mean, it's not like the ui displays who is the master looter |
| 08:58.59 | haste | :----D |
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| 09:00.46 | SubmergedGL | Cide; right.. however, I've been editing an addon for a week, and going pretty well at it (zenzeless helped me out a bit on my first problem).. however, it brings up a frame when something is looted at a specified loot quality. I want the frame to _only_ pop up if the person is master looter. |
| 09:01.23 | Cide | right |
| 09:01.31 | Cide | and it's not like the ui displays who is the master looter |
| 09:01.58 | tlund | yes it does |
| 09:01.58 | Cide | and since it doesn't, how in the world do you think you could get at it? |
| 09:02.12 | Cide | exactly. now read everything I said and take the opposite |
| 09:02.26 | haste | yes |
| 09:02.28 | haste | and just ignore me |
| 09:02.34 | Cide | yes |
| 09:02.35 | haste | who gave you the function and the two related events. |
| 09:03.01 | Cide | yes |
| 09:03.27 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:04.41 | tlund | Cide: im sorry, im not sure i know what else to do. |
| 09:04.52 | Cide | what? |
| 09:04.58 | tlund | Cide: you make a false claim, there is not much else to do than claim the opposite |
| 09:05.16 | Cide | if you frequented this channel at all you'd know I don't make false claims |
| 09:05.22 | tlund | the API function haste already gave you returns the information you are looking for. |
| 09:05.24 | haste | sarcasm doesn't travel well over IRC |
| 09:05.41 | Cide | I make sarcastic remarks intended to educate the lesser beings |
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| 09:07.59 | Cide | now if you excuse me, I have more important things to do than to sarcastically imply that perhaps the default ui's source contains the information required given that the default ui actually accomplishes what was desired |
| 09:09.54 | Cide | granted, such a deduction does require the use (and possessiveness) of a couple of brain cells |
| 09:10.01 | Cide | </rant> |
| 09:10.22 | tlund | vi moron.txt |
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| 09:21.27 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2009/08/100_years_of_movie_special_eff.php |
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| 09:26.10 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/funny_snack.jpg |
| 09:29.26 | haste | looks hard to eat |
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| 10:09.09 | Jerub | is it possible to connect to a vent server from linux? |
| 10:10.50 | _rane | sure, sockets are not platform-dependent |
| 10:11.48 | Jerub | _rane: smartass. i meant is it possible to do it usefully. |
| 10:12.10 | Jerub | though googling i see someone has done it with wine |
| 10:12.11 | Elkano | use wine? |
| 10:12.28 | Jerub | *tries* |
| 10:12.31 | Wobin | I used wine |
| 10:12.40 | Wobin | it was a bit tricksy with PTT |
| 10:12.53 | Wobin | see if you can convince them to use Mumble =) |
| 10:13.01 | haste | or you can use spux |
| 10:13.03 | Elkano | http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2169 |
| 10:13.05 | haste | http://spuxproject.net/ |
| 10:13.17 | haste | there is a perl hack to make PTT work btw |
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| 10:13.22 | Wobin | nice |
| 10:16.27 | Jerub | this is to run on my laptop, not my wow machine |
| 10:16.32 | Jerub | so i don't know if i'll need hacks |
| 10:17.02 | haste | I actually run VT on a laptop as well |
| 10:17.15 | haste | and I have a home-made USB device as push to talk |
| 10:17.25 | haste | which is on the floor |
| 10:17.27 | haste | it's awesome~ |
| 10:17.30 | _rane | ooh |
| 10:17.33 | _rane | sounds nice |
| 10:17.39 | nevcairiel | you push it with your feet? heh |
| 10:18.04 | haste | I made it out of a broken DDR pad :D |
| 10:18.05 | _rane | although voice activity is hands down the most comfortable way |
| 10:18.12 | haste | I like music |
| 10:18.38 | haste | and most of my music can trigger the voice activation |
| 10:18.53 | _rane | so you like speakers |
| 10:19.21 | haste | it's usually not on high enough for VT to pick it up too much |
| 10:19.28 | haste | and I use headset as well :P |
| 10:19.49 | _rane | I wish more people started using mumble |
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| 10:19.59 | haste | mumble is doomed from the start |
| 10:20.05 | haste | they use Qt on the server side |
| 10:20.11 | haste | which is... dumb |
| 10:20.15 | _rane | eh? |
| 10:20.26 | _rane | how does command-line software require Qt? |
| 10:20.28 | haste | I'm not fucking installing Qt on my server just for a VoIP |
| 10:20.29 | haste | YES |
| 10:20.32 | haste | IT DOES! |
| 10:20.34 | haste | it's amazing |
| 10:20.35 | _rane | it doesn't |
| 10:20.41 | haste | have they fixed it? |
| 10:21.09 | _rane | I'm running the server binary on a shared host |
| 10:21.19 | _rane | untar, run |
| 10:21.32 | Codayus_ | I tried Mumble oh...ages ago. It was absolutely terrible. Poor UI, hideous quality. I'm sure it's got a lot better since, but I suspect I'm not the only one who got a poor first impression. :-/ |
| 10:21.33 | _rane | I remember having similar issues though, but I was using the wrong package |
| 10:21.43 | haste | "Note: If you are using Debian/Ubuntu with both Qt3 and Qt4 installed use the command "qmake-qt4" instead of "qmake" " |
| 10:21.51 | haste | taht doesn't seem to.. helpful |
| 10:22.04 | _rane | that's not for the server |
| 10:22.27 | haste | so they've actually fixed it now then |
| 10:22.40 | _rane | nah |
| 10:22.45 | haste | the old version required Qt for murmur at least |
| 10:22.53 | nevcairiel | it still uses Qt for murmur |
| 10:23.03 | nevcairiel | it uses the Qt libraries for the DBus connections |
| 10:23.09 | nevcairiel | and the whole network dealy |
| 10:23.10 | haste | shrugs |
| 10:23.13 | _rane | IF you run murmur with GUI |
| 10:23.17 | nevcairiel | no |
| 10:23.18 | nevcairiel | always |
| 10:23.19 | _rane | yes |
| 10:23.19 | _rane | no |
| 10:23.35 | nevcairiel | the version you ran was probably the statically linked version |
| 10:23.35 | haste | :p |
| 10:23.39 | nevcairiel | with Qt linked in |
| 10:23.44 | haste | yeh |
| 10:24.04 | nevcairiel | I just checked the murmur code |
| 10:24.06 | _rane | in any case, running the server is dead simple |
| 10:24.06 | nevcairiel | C code doesnt lie |
| 10:24.08 | nevcairiel | it uses Qt |
| 10:24.11 | haste | "For Mumble/Murmur 1.1.0 and greater (including SVN), Qt 4.3 is required." |
| 10:31.49 | wsoul | antyone knows what addons are they on this vid |
| 10:31.55 | wsoul | http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f206/50951-ulduar-hodir-hard-mode.html |
| 10:32.01 | wsoul | the one for map and actionbars |
| 10:33.29 | _rane | map addon is sexymap |
| 10:33.47 | _rane | action bar addon could be anything, I'm guessing bartender |
| 10:34.11 | wsoul | thanks |
| 10:38.34 | wsoul | hmm, any special command to replace blizzard minimap? |
| 10:39.16 | _rane | with what? |
| 10:39.36 | wsoul | to enable sexymap |
| 10:39.40 | _rane | sexymap replaces it automatically |
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| 10:41.55 | wsoul | out of date |
| 10:42.05 | wsoul | would that be it? |
| 10:42.22 | wsoul | heh |
| 10:42.32 | wsoul | forgot about checking that |
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| 11:46.20 | Computerpunk | Hello guys, I got a question: |
| 11:46.37 | Computerpunk | Any way to find out the users of an AddOn without sending an AddOn message and receiving one back? |
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| 11:47.39 | olafski | sounds unlikely :< |
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| 11:50.14 | Computerpunk | Mkay, I got it. |
| 11:50.25 | Computerpunk | Thanks anyway. |
| 11:50.41 | olafski | I would like this functionality too but I think it might be an infringement on privacy or whatever :) |
| 12:08.32 | nevcairiel | wow, i just tried playing a 720p movie on my old laptop, and it even manages to bring up enough performance to play it |
| 12:08.50 | Computerpunk | Gratz. :3 |
| 12:08.57 | nevcairiel | i didnt think it would =P |
| 12:09.16 | nevcairiel | its just a simple 1.7ghz p4 centrino |
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| 12:37.27 | olafski | if a german uses my US-only addon, do they see it in english? or won't it work at all? |
| 12:38.26 | nevcairiel | they usually just see it in english |
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| 12:38.47 | nevcairiel | but some parts may not work |
| 12:38.51 | nevcairiel | depending on what you coded |
| 12:39.17 | olafski | I don't use any english specific names or anything.. just the config panel is in english |
| 12:39.21 | olafski | so I guess it will work |
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| 13:27.00 | Kraps | http://www.vosizneias.com/37369/2009/08/27/east-rutherford-nj-u2-reschedules-concert-because-of-yom-kippur/ |
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| 13:31.36 | Kraps | A pandaren model has been added to the game files, this is the model for the Pandaren Monk mini pet. |
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| 13:33.59 | alestane | "The new alliance race is Pandaren. End of discussion. And EVERYONE will reroll their existing main to play a samurai brewmaster panda. |
| 13:34.17 | alestane | "PvP will be impossible, however, as there will be no Horde." |
| 13:35.10 | Kraps | alestane: hehe |
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| 13:51.21 | Cruciformer | onoes I found a bugz in 3.2 :/ |
| 13:51.40 | jnwhiteh | there are a few :P |
| 13:51.44 | Cruciformer | or GetLootMethod() is severely misdocumented, which I dont think it is |
| 13:52.31 | Cruciformer | no matter how hard I try I cannt get the second return value to be anything other than 0 |
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| 13:56.00 | Cruciformer | oh-ho ... wowprogramming is missing an important part of the puzzle. Am I allowed to update it based on information found on wowwiki? |
| 13:56.14 | jnwhiteh | yes? |
| 13:56.20 | jnwhiteh | I mean, you cannot copy and pasta |
| 13:56.26 | jnwhiteh | but you can add the information that is mission |
| 13:56.27 | Cruciformer | Just not sure what the sourcing rules were |
| 13:56.28 | jnwhiteh | missing |
| 13:56.30 | jnwhiteh | or point me to it. |
| 13:56.39 | jnwhiteh | standard copyright rules |
| 13:56.42 | jnwhiteh | must be your contribution, etc. |
| 13:56.45 | Cruciformer | I'll update it now. |
| 13:57.13 | Cruciformer | basically it was missing the pretty important part that if the return value was 0 it means the current player doing the query is the master looter |
| 13:57.26 | jnwhiteh | ah, easy enough. |
| 13:57.41 | Cruciformer | u in teh mood for updating or shall i? |
| 13:58.06 | Cruciformer | seems to only apply to the second return value btw |
| 13:58.36 | jnwhiteh | I've got it. |
| 13:59.21 | Cruciformer | btw hi jnwhiteh, long time no speak :) |
| 13:59.36 | jnwhiteh | yeah i've been away |
| 13:59.43 | Cruciformer | blizzcon? |
| 13:59.56 | jnwhiteh | for 8 hours over two days, yeah |
| 13:59.58 | jnwhiteh | but other stuff. |
| 14:01.01 | jnwhiteh | i waited in line for my tickets |
| 14:01.01 | jnwhiteh | and was at the opening ceremonies and first panel |
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| 14:01.20 | Cruciformer | was it fun? |
| 14:01.22 | jnwhiteh | that was it, had other stuff i had to do while I was in cali |
| 14:01.27 | jnwhiteh | yeah it was nice seeing everyone |
| 14:01.32 | Cruciformer | for some reason I just cant imagine blizzcon actually being entertaining |
| 14:01.38 | jnwhiteh | and rounding up all the addon authors |
| 14:01.38 | jnwhiteh | glares at Shadowed and Antiarc |
| 14:01.42 | Cruciformer | nice to put faces to names, that Ill grant |
| 14:02.05 | Cruciformer | speaking of which I guess I am now officially one, posted my first addon while you were away :P |
| 14:02.25 | jnwhiteh | hehe congrats! |
| 14:02.46 | Cruciformer | ty :) little monster has taken on a life of its own now that others are using it |
| 14:02.58 | Cruciformer | new rule: everyone should think the way I do :) |
| 14:03.23 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 14:03.23 | jnwhiteh | so my new flat |
| 14:03.35 | alestane | You've been in England too long already, I can tell. |
| 14:03.38 | jnwhiteh | i can't shower standing up |
| 14:03.38 | jnwhiteh | and i have no broadband |
| 14:03.38 | jnwhiteh | growls |
| 14:03.47 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:03.57 | nevcairiel | nice pick =P |
| 14:04.19 | alestane | Is the shower stall too short or something? |
| 14:04.31 | Cruciformer | you're either way too freakishly tall, or you got a flat build in the 1400s when people were only 5 foot high |
| 14:04.33 | alestane | Or is it on a hose in a bathtub, something like that. |
| 14:04.45 | nevcairiel | i hate those bathtub things |
| 14:04.57 | Cruciformer | nevcairiel: amen ... they suck |
| 14:05.08 | jnwhiteh | yeah its a hose connected to the tap |
| 14:05.10 | jnwhiteh | but not like a ghetto one |
| 14:05.19 | Cruciformer | the last place I lived in in california had an awesome, whole-length-of-the-bathroom, double-headed shower. |
| 14:05.26 | jnwhiteh | there's the hose coming out the top and the normal tap at the bottom |
| 14:05.31 | jnwhiteh | but the cold water pressure is set WAY too high |
| 14:05.36 | jnwhiteh | so either I scald myself standing up |
| 14:05.41 | jnwhiteh | freeze myself standing up |
| 14:05.54 | jnwhiteh | or "shower" at a normal temperature sitting down |
| 14:06.08 | Cruciformer | lol thats conjouring very weird visions in my head I can tell you |
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| 14:29.46 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: stick a chair in the tub |
| 14:30.00 | Wobin | and at least sit down if you have to stay halfway =) |
| 14:30.00 | jnwhiteh | the chair would be too high |
| 14:30.10 | jnwhiteh | the shower head can't be over the faucet |
| 14:30.20 | Wobin | it's like weird quantum |
| 14:30.40 | Wobin | ah, well, can't be worse than the one I had in my dorm in China |
| 14:30.47 | Wobin | The shower was over the top of the toilet |
| 14:31.08 | Wobin | the floor was flat |
| 14:31.19 | Wobin | so you basically soaked the entire room every time you showered |
| 14:32.01 | jnwhiteh | bah |
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| 14:42.23 | jnwhiteh | _all_ i need to do is attach a 2Mb file to this email. |
| 14:42.54 | jnwhiteh | and it won't let me |
| 14:42.57 | jnwhiteh | cries |
| 14:42.57 | alestane | And pray your ISP doesn't reject it? |
| 14:45.06 | alestane | WTB ball and chain for all quest-givers that wnader in circles. |
| 14:45.18 | Fisker | rightclick |
| 14:45.40 | ScytheBlade1 | The troll has a point |
| 14:46.00 | alestane | They stop for a minute...then while you're deciding between quest-rewards, they walk away because they're bored. |
| 14:46.12 | Fisker | rightclick even moar |
| 14:46.15 | Fisker | also l2decide |
| 14:47.59 | Kraps | first time doing last rites, i was trying to decide what i should take and thass despawned. i was "WTF NOOOOOO!!!!" |
| 14:48.28 | alestane | I think you can turn it into him back at the Ziggurat, though, right? |
| 14:48.38 | Kraps | YEAH |
| 14:48.42 | Kraps | caps |
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| 14:50.09 | Computerpunk | Another quick question: Alternative to GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE to find out when a player goes offline/is kicked? |
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| 14:57.11 | Tem | so, I just started leveling a pally alt |
| 14:57.55 | Tem | wtf were they thinking? |
| 14:58.07 | Tem | I don't have anything to do but judge every 9 seconds until level 20 |
| 14:58.19 | Lopeppeppy | I read a lot, leveling a paladin. |
| 14:58.31 | Tem | and then it'll be judge, consecrate, wait 7.5s |
| 14:58.31 | alestane | Pallies have a lot of great abilities, but most of them are passive. |
| 14:58.38 | Tem | repeat |
| 14:58.40 | alestane | It's always been a design issue with the class. |
| 14:58.53 | Lopeppeppy | Draeni paladin is even better, I can use my HoT and not ever have to heal. |
| 14:59.43 | Tem | it's fine at top level, but... that's quite a ways off |
| 14:59.48 | alestane | And most of their good active abilities on comparatively low cooldowns are 51-point talents. |
| 14:59.51 | Tem | I don't get another attack until level 50 |
| 15:00.18 | Tem | well, I guess I'll kind of gain art of war exorcisms at 41 |
| 15:00.25 | alestane | Almost all of a paladin's abilities are buffs and reactives. |
| 15:00.25 | Tem | that's still pretty rediculous |
| 15:00.41 | Tem | does _anyone_ find that fun to level? |
| 15:01.12 | alestane | I leveld my pally to 60 or so back when you still had to rotate seals and judgements. |
| 15:01.15 | Seerah | my biggest pally was lvl 14 |
| 15:01.28 | Seerah | hubby has his around 43-45 or so... |
| 15:01.43 | Seerah | what he's been playing most often lately |
| 15:02.18 | Tem | I was thinking I'd get this one to 30 so I could make him a level 60 via RAF grant levels |
| 15:02.32 | Sesshu | ~hello |
| 15:02.32 | purl | Howdy Bub |
| 15:02.38 | Sesshu | :) |
| 15:02.43 | Tem | but holy wow |
| 15:02.44 | zenzelezz | <Seerah> my biggest pally was lvl 14 <--- but which one was the highest level? |
| 15:02.54 | Seerah | ~lart zenzelezz |
| 15:02.54 | purl | steals zenzelezz's mojo |
| 15:02.58 | zenzelezz | :( |
| 15:03.07 | Tem | if all I can do is judge-wait-judge every 9 seconds for 40 more levels, though... |
| 15:03.24 | zenzelezz | don't be silly Tem |
| 15:03.31 | zenzelezz | you can bubble occasionally too |
| 15:03.37 | Tem | *glare* |
| 15:03.38 | jnwhiteh | i'm really enjoying my warrior |
| 15:03.43 | alestane | There's Hammer of Justice. |
| 15:03.44 | Cide | and loh now and then |
| 15:03.54 | jnwhiteh | gnome female named "bootswthefur" |
| 15:03.55 | Tem | oh well |
| 15:03.57 | Tem | I gotta run |
| 15:03.59 | Codayus_ | Enh shamans aren't much better to level. |
| 15:04.00 | Tem | later guys |
| 15:04.17 | Codayus_ | Makes a good drinking game. Windfury procs...drink! |
| 15:04.27 | Codayus_ | There's nothing else to do. :-( |
| 15:04.32 | Tem | Codayus_, they at least have shocks and LB before they get stormstrik |
| 15:04.33 | Tem | e |
| 15:04.46 | Tem | I've actually leveled an enh to 50-something |
| 15:04.55 | zenzelezz | hrm... Slackware 13 released... maybe installing that will be easier than salvaging my broken GTK |
| 15:05.07 | Codayus_ | Heh |
| 15:05.26 | Tem | until you get stormstrike, though, oh god |
| 15:05.43 | Tem | I did really silly things at that level, though |
| 15:05.45 | Codayus_ | I couldn't get that far. |
| 15:05.53 | Tem | before I could DW, I used a shield |
| 15:06.00 | Tem | and it took AGES to kill things |
| 15:06.05 | Tem | but I couldn't die either |
| 15:06.05 | Codayus_ | Heh |
| 15:06.10 | Tem | oh and totems |
| 15:06.26 | Tem | lots of things to do on a shaman even if they don't do amazing damage |
| 15:06.43 | Tem | less so now, I guess with the new totem drop system |
| 15:06.49 | Codayus_ | I guess, but they hardly seem worth it. And they suck your mana dry. |
| 15:07.01 | Tem | true story :( |
| 15:07.15 | Tem | I remember picking up spirit at early levels so I didn't have to drink |
| 15:07.39 | Codayus_ | Honestly, I hate pretty much all leveling. Although I just started trying to relevel an old warrior alt who's been 60 since molten core. And prot is great fun for leveling at that level. :-) |
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| 15:07.56 | Tem | hmm |
| 15:07.56 | jnwhiteh | druid is so much fun to level |
| 15:08.03 | Tem | druid SUCKS until you get cat form |
| 15:08.07 | jnwhiteh | meh |
| 15:08.12 | jnwhiteh | i like bear form |
| 15:08.13 | Tem | and cat form kind of sucks too until you get mangle |
| 15:08.15 | jnwhiteh | but yes, cat is much better |
| 15:08.20 | zenzelezz | having my first ability called "Heroic Strike" made me feel all awesome when I started WoW. Then I reach level 10 and got a "talent" point. OMGIMAWESOME! |
| 15:08.36 | mikma | i bet tekkub likes the bearform too |
| 15:08.43 | Tem | on my first toon, I didn't realize I had talents until level 15 or so |
| 15:08.54 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't realize I had talents until about level 30. |
| 15:08.55 | Ackis | rawr |
| 15:08.58 | Tem | my roommate got them at level 10 and I thought it was just a pally thing |
| 15:09.15 | Codayus_ | Heh |
| 15:09.17 | zenzelezz | I found out about talents, but didn't realize I had trees other than Arms until ~30-35 |
| 15:09.35 | Codayus_ | That's okay, arms is all you need. |
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| 15:10.31 | Tem | anyway, I gotta run |
| 15:10.49 | Lopeppeppy | kiss kiss bye bye! |
| 15:10.53 | Tem | I've got friends coming into town this evening, and my place needs some serious cleanup before I can let people inside >.> |
| 15:11.07 | alestane | Speaking of leveling pallies, Peppy, did you ever find your authenticator? |
| 15:11.35 | zenzelezz | Codayus_: I've been Prot since I hit 60, still am |
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| 15:12.32 | Codayus_ | zenzelezz: I got kind of annoyed with my warrior back in the day, because while I liked *playing* as protection, you needed to level as something else, and I didn't like the other trees. I think I died in Hellfire 6 times as fury, and gave up. |
| 15:12.49 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 15:13.00 | Codayus_ | The TBC changes to the warrior prot tree/mechanics were awesome. :-) |
| 15:13.03 | zenzelezz | I did BC and LK leveling as prot. Took a while, but wasn't very bad |
| 15:13.22 | zenzelezz | although all the caster mobs in Hellfire still owned me hard |
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| 15:14.06 | TopTop18 | Okay I think I got my problem straight |
| 15:14.30 | TopTop18 | Someone reminds my tableish problem from a few days ago? |
| 15:14.30 | Codayus_ | ...I've even been pvping a bit in the 60-70 brackets as prot. Surprisingly fun. |
| 15:15.42 | TopTop18 | As those tables got to be created somewhere, but I can;t name them after variables. How to create them then? As I don;t know ID's or names to hardcode table names |
| 15:16.29 | jnwhiteh | TopTop18: I'm not sure what you're asking.. its too confused with half thought implementation details. What are you trying to accomplish? |
| 15:19.36 | Shirik | yawns |
| 15:20.05 | ScytheBlade1 | stabinates Shadowed |
| 15:20.06 | ScytheBlade1 | err |
| 15:20.07 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 15:20.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Shadowed: sorry |
| 15:20.16 | ScytheBlade1 | stabinates Shirik |
| 15:20.17 | Ackis | stabinates ScytheBlade1 |
| 15:20.24 | Shadowed | I demand Shirik renames |
| 15:20.24 | Shirik | you |
| 15:20.31 | Shadowed | he can be Kirihs |
| 15:20.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I agree with Shadowed |
| 15:21.34 | Cide | nah |
| 15:21.38 | Cide | I demand Shiibot renames |
| 15:21.44 | ScytheBlade1 | that too |
| 15:21.53 | Cide | having to type more than 2 letters to get someone's name with tab complete = FAIL |
| 15:22.02 | Computerpunk | Going to ask again, I got no answer, probably it's a no, so: Another quick question: Alternative to GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE to find out when a player goes offline/is kicked? |
| 15:22.02 | Ackis | ~agree cide |
| 15:22.03 | purl | ACTION forces cide to agree with ackis. "Its no matter, ackis is always right cide" |
| 15:22.09 | Ackis | bah |
| 15:22.09 | Lopeppeppy | I am special. |
| 15:22.11 | Ackis | ~rlart |
| 15:22.12 | purl | pours hot grits down the front of Mr_Rabies's pants |
| 15:22.20 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: prove it |
| 15:22.55 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. *wink* |
| 15:23.07 | alestane | That's like asking someone to prove the sun is bright. |
| 15:23.14 | Cide | Computerpunk: devtools /dtevents |
| 15:23.23 | Cide | my guess is CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM |
| 15:23.24 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy is special, she wears a helmet and takes the short bus to work |
| 15:23.48 | alestane | Of course, /dtevents is buit in now, but I think they changed the command. |
| 15:24.02 | Cide | it is? I had no idea |
| 15:24.16 | alestane | 3.2 basically integrated devtools and swatter. |
| 15:24.31 | zenzelezz | /dteventchat too? |
| 15:24.41 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, I will seriously come up there and kick your butt. |
| 15:24.44 | Kraps | wtb 3 separate trees for cats and bears |
| 15:24.52 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, yummy |
| 15:26.43 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: I don't think the bus comes this far... |
| 15:26.57 | Lopeppeppy | I'm so high on real Sudafed that I could fly there no problem. |
| 15:27.46 | Ackis | oh didn't know you were sick |
| 15:28.18 | Lopeppeppy | I've had a sinus/ear infection brewing all week. :) I went in today and got some things for it from the doctor finally. |
| 15:28.23 | Ackis | :( |
| 15:28.38 | Ackis | I can send you a couple ninja kitties if we ever catch them |
| 15:28.45 | zenzelezz | ah, Slashdot commenters... "You know that "Ubuntu" is Swahili for "too lazy to install Slackware" right ?" |
| 15:29.13 | Lopeppeppy | I have two kitties already, which is more than my allergies can handle. Hence, the infection. |
| 15:29.38 | Kraps | using innervate on yourself is like WHOA |
| 15:29.52 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 15:29.55 | Computerpunk | Ty Cide. |
| 15:30.04 | Ackis | I know the feeling, I have 3 kitties and a puppy :| |
| 15:30.14 | Lopeppeppy | And allergies to them? |
| 15:30.27 | Ackis | yup |
| 15:30.37 | Ackis | my ears are always popping due to them |
| 15:30.51 | Ackis | but teh cuddles > allergies |
| 15:31.04 | Lopeppeppy | I got another friendly lecture from my doctor about having cats with my allergies. That's what I told him, I'm a happier person with cats than without. |
| 15:32.34 | Lopeppeppy | I really hate nasal sprays |
| 15:33.40 | zenzelezz | yup, but they work |
| 15:33.51 | Kraps | are your cat allergies seasonal? |
| 15:35.10 | Lopeppeppy | They're worse in the winter when I have the windows open less, but I also have the issue of not being able to vacuum the living room while Rosie is in the dog kennel. She can't run away, poor dear. |
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| 15:35.48 | zenzelezz | can't you, like, move her for a few minutes? |
| 15:37.24 | Ackis | when I was younger I was holding my cat and my mom tried to vaccum it... he scratched me down to the bone |
| 15:37.37 | Lopeppeppy | The dog crate is as big as my couch, it doesn't fit down the hall. But she's supposed to get the stitches out tomorrow, so she'll be in her carrier. And I'll put the carrier in the bedroom when I get home, do the living room up before I let her out. |
| 15:37.47 | zenzelezz | Ackis: what kind of a person vacuums a cat? |
| 15:37.50 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. Cats have BAD reactions to vacuums, and I don't want her to rip a stitch. |
| 15:38.55 | Ackis | zenzelezz: my mom is a moron, yes I know this |
| 15:41.27 | Kraps | i dont quite understand having a cat if you're allergic |
| 15:42.32 | Lopeppeppy | I've always had pets, Kraps. And for the 6 years I couldn't, due to rental restrictions, I was damn miserable. I am much happier with my cats than without. |
| 15:42.40 | Ackis | ^ |
| 15:43.02 | Ackis | cuddles > allergies |
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| 15:43.51 | Kraps | mkay |
| 15:44.02 | Ackis | cuddles Kraps |
| 15:44.23 | Kraps | umm |
| 15:44.33 | Ackis | you like it |
| 15:45.10 | Kraps | i dont roll that way Ackis |
| 15:45.13 | Kraps | sorry |
| 15:45.20 | Ackis | no |
| 15:45.23 | Ackis | I said you like it |
| 15:45.24 | Ackis | so you like it |
| 15:45.36 | Kraps | orly |
| 15:45.38 | Seerah | sighs |
| 15:45.52 | Ackis | yup |
| 15:46.00 | Ackis | why so sighing Seerah? |
| 15:46.12 | Seerah | why can't we all just get along? :P |
| 15:46.32 | Ackis | we are! we're cuddling!!! |
| 15:46.40 | Kraps | Seerah: UNPOSSIBLE |
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| 15:47.49 | zenzelezz | Seerah: I'm sure we could get along ;-o |
| 15:47.58 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 15:48.03 | Seerah | ~poke zenzelezz :D |
| 15:48.04 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind zenzelezz :D, pokes zenzelezz :D repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 15:48.22 | Seerah | I like having those :D in there....... |
| 15:48.31 | zenzelezz | heh |
| 15:48.38 | Seerah | awwww |
| 15:48.42 | Seerah | now you're sad |
| 15:48.48 | Seerah | but look at the smiley faces!!!! |
| 15:49.04 | Ackis | ~rlart |
| 15:49.05 | purl | keeps mailing harl free America Online CDs until he drowns |
| 15:49.20 | mikma | ;( |
| 15:49.51 | harl | nibbles purl |
| 15:50.51 | Kraps | feels uncomfortable with all the huggles/cuddles/giggles etc going on |
| 15:51.48 | harl | doesn't |
| 15:53.17 | Lopeppeppy | That's what happens when you have real live girls running around. |
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| 15:54.52 | harl | likes girls (and they don't even necessarily have to run around for that) |
| 15:55.57 | zenzelezz | real life needs phasing, so you could walk around town without all the old/ugly/male people |
| 15:56.28 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 15:56.34 | Shirik | huggles Kraps |
| 15:57.10 | Kraps | ~lart Shirik |
| 15:57.10 | purl | explains, ever so gently, that if Shirik doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help |
| 15:57.34 | durcyn | worst lart ever |
| 15:57.42 | Kraps | wtf even purl is all gentle |
| 15:57.49 | zenzelezz | ~lart Kraps |
| 15:57.49 | purl | pushes the wall down onto Kraps whilst whistling innocently |
| 15:58.09 | zenzelezz | maybe she has a soft spot for Shirik |
| 15:58.11 | Kraps | dammit! |
| 15:58.40 | durcyn | i bet not. |
| 15:58.42 | durcyn | ~lart Shirik |
| 15:58.42 | purl | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to Shirik, and goes postal |
| 15:58.59 | zenzelezz | PMS |
| 15:59.14 | Kraps | just what i was thinking |
| 15:59.31 | Ackis | ~rlart |
| 15:59.32 | purl | rm -rf's qwesto_ |
| 16:00.07 | Lopeppeppy | ~whalenuke zenzelezz |
| 16:00.08 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around zenzelezz with his mind powers. |
| 16:00.33 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 16:00.45 | Kraps | Willy > Ray |
| 16:00.47 | zenzelezz | peppy sure is protective of purl |
| 16:00.59 | Lopeppeppy | Us girls gotta stick together. |
| 16:01.06 | zenzelezz | SS or it didn't happen |
| 16:03.07 | mikma | http://media.fukung.net/images/16222/1243250944-anonyma_couteau.gif <- questgiver |
| 16:03.17 | Kraps | adys |
| 16:04.40 | Ackis | ~rlart |
| 16:04.41 | purl | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays alestane in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
| 16:04.48 | Ackis | yayayayay |
| 16:05.44 | alestane | *blorfghl* |
| 16:05.44 | Ackis | why is rlart full of win? |
| 16:06.24 | Lopeppeppy | Because it's fun? |
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| 16:12.02 | Kraps | some of you have accounts at mmochamp, are mmoc and wowi related? |
| 16:12.12 | durcyn | uh no |
| 16:13.38 | Ackis | I feel bad when I give the CSR's poor feedback in WoW |
| 16:14.20 | Lopeppeppy | If you honestly feel they've earned it, give the feedback. Just remember to likewise give feedback when they do nice things. both help improve their skills. |
| 16:14.25 | Ackis | I do |
| 16:14.33 | Ackis | I give honest feedback |
| 16:14.39 | Ackis | even if the answer wasn't to my liking |
| 16:14.49 | Lopeppeppy | That's all anyone can ask for, honest feedback. |
| 16:14.53 | Ackis | I wished they'd follow up with you though |
| 16:15.08 | Ackis | but they probably get 12 million of them |
| 16:15.31 | Lopeppeppy | Very true. And they're not likely to discuss anything hr-ish about CSMs with players. Confidentiality. |
| 16:16.14 | Ackis | nah, was thinking more so about "why did you say this?" etc |
| 16:16.19 | Ackis | since I know it does impact the person |
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| 16:17.22 | nevcairiel | well they do see the chat between you and them as well |
| 16:17.40 | nevcairiel | that mostly answers all the questions, if the feedback was honest |
| 16:20.03 | Ackis | true |
| 16:20.24 | Ackis | most of my negative feedback involves mail responses which are canned and don't remotely address my issue |
| 16:23.37 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I hate those. |
| 16:27.33 | Lopeppeppy | Ugh, i also hate my VPN. Working from home sucks it. |
| 16:37.33 | alestane | Why does the sound of lawn-mowing outside fill me with the desire to commit murder and mayhem? |
| 16:38.24 | ScytheBlade1 | .. that's a new one |
| 16:38.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I've never known such a sound to inspire acts of destruction |
| 16:38.51 | alestane | I just want it to GO AWAY. |
| 16:38.59 | ScytheBlade1 | oh. That I can see |
| 16:39.06 | alestane | An ae in the perpetrator's back would solve this quite nicely. |
| 16:39.11 | alestane | axe* |
| 16:39.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I was thinking sugar in the gas |
| 16:39.45 | Lopeppeppy | No, they just come back with new mowers. |
| 16:39.49 | Lopeppeppy | Kill the noisy bastards. |
| 16:39.55 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 16:39.56 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/8/28/ |
| 16:40.00 | Lopeppeppy | I seriously would, if the mowed my complex today, have to hurt someone. |
| 16:42.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It's the title to that one that gets me |
| 16:43.37 | alestane | IT NEVER STOPS... |
| 16:44.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Have some good headphones? |
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| 16:44.58 | Lopeppeppy | My ears hurt, ScytheBlade1, putting on headphones would be suicidal. |
| 16:45.26 | ScytheBlade1 | You have a point there |
| 16:45.43 | mikma | ooh, blizzard does have SecondsToTime() :D |
| 16:46.10 | alestane | Time to shut the windows first. |
| 16:47.22 | alestane | There, now it's merely annoying, instead of an endless pressure inside my head that drives me to thoughts of homicide. |
| 16:47.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Something tells me that you need something more than we can give you |
| 16:47.55 | Lopeppeppy | Try the grown up sudafed, it's spiffy. |
| 16:48.27 | Cloudwolf | D: pax at 1000 passes left NOOOOOOOEEEEEESSSSS |
| 16:51.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I would what would happen if the CAD guy showed up to PAX. |
| 16:52.03 | alestane | Tim Buckley? He's an East-Coaster. |
| 16:52.20 | ScytheBlade1 | And an arch-nemesis of the PA people |
| 16:52.43 | alestane | I think he lives in Connecticut. |
| 16:52.48 | Cloudwolf | cad guy? |
| 16:52.57 | Cloudwolf | computer aided drafting guy?... |
| 16:53.03 | Shirik | ~lart Cloudwolf |
| 16:53.04 | purl | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at Cloudwolf |
| 16:53.06 | alestane | And I thought that was Scott Kurtz...I've never seen Buckley say much about PA. |
| 16:53.22 | alestane | Although the bitching between Scott and Mike is mostly for show. |
| 16:53.53 | ScytheBlade1 | http://pennyarcade.wikia.com/wiki/L._H._Franzibald |
| 16:55.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Note the last line under 'History' |
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| 16:56.36 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/04/11/ too |
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| 17:14.34 | Cloudwolf | seems like TPB is still down... |
| 17:15.26 | alestane | Their tracker was fried on Tuesday. |
| 17:15.36 | Cloudwolf | fun fun.... |
| 17:16.17 | Lopeppeppy | TPB? |
| 17:16.39 | NightHawkTheSan1 | pirate bay |
| 17:18.18 | alestane | I am going out to buy some groceries. Perhaps the lawn will be done when I get back. |
| 17:19.11 | Lopeppeppy | TPB is in the process of being purchased, I bet it won't go back online until they have their payment plans in effect. |
| 17:19.49 | NightHawkTheSan1 | well, its been kinda on and offline the past few days |
| 17:20.16 | Lopeppeppy | Teases. :) |
| 17:22.37 | alestane | Who invests in buying a venture whose principal purpose is unlicensed software distribution? |
| 17:22.48 | Lopeppeppy | Someone who says they're going to make it for-pay. |
| 17:23.23 | NightHawkTheSan1 | yeah, that'll happen. |
| 17:23.59 | Fisker | http://www.ted.com/talks/eric_giler_demos_wireless_electricity.html <-i oooh'd then aaah'd |
| 17:24.02 | Lopeppeppy | It will happen, but will anyone buy? |
| 17:24.32 | Shirik | wireless electricity? |
| 17:24.37 | Shirik | Big deal |
| 17:24.49 | Shirik | he invented something that was invented 50 years ago |
| 17:25.09 | Fisker | old Shirik |
| 17:25.42 | Fisker | wireless electricity has existed since the earth was born |
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| 17:29.16 | Shirik | this guy needs to shut up |
| 17:29.26 | Shirik | "this professor" didn't come up with shit |
| 17:30.24 | Lopeppeppy | Repackaging is where it's at, lately |
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| 17:36.15 | theorbtwo | Ever looked at how electric toothbrushes charge? |
| 17:36.45 | Lopeppeppy | On annoying stands? |
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| 17:38.57 | theorbtwo | Probably using exactly the same methodology as that "wireless electricity" lark. |
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| 17:39.48 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
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| 17:41.21 | Fisker | fuck you Shirik ! |
| 17:41.26 | Fisker | sauce or it didn't happen |
| 17:41.42 | Shirik | theorbtwo: Indeed, actually |
| 17:41.46 | Shirik | well |
| 17:41.48 | Shirik | sorta |
| 17:41.52 | Shirik | it's closer to how a transformer works |
| 17:41.58 | Shirik | But, on that note, an interesting point |
| 17:42.02 | Sesshu | transformer? |
| 17:42.04 | Shirik | A transformer IS wireless electricity |
| 17:42.27 | Sesshu | i know a film called transformers |
| 17:42.28 | Sesshu | :D |
| 17:42.36 | Shirik | This technology that was presented is just a glorified transformer with some extra tweaks |
| 17:42.54 | Shirik | bad Sesshu |
| 17:43.04 | Sesshu | good Sesshu! |
| 17:44.01 | Fisker | but it works |
| 17:44.03 | Fisker | = win |
| 17:44.34 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/v25OJ.jpg <-this is your house Shirik |
| 17:44.51 | Lopeppeppy | Looks easy to clean |
| 17:45.07 | Fisker | it isn't |
| 17:45.10 | Fisker | cause you'll puke |
| 17:45.21 | Lopeppeppy | Why? |
| 17:45.25 | Fisker | bouncy :( |
| 17:45.28 | Fisker | and you'll get sick |
| 17:45.35 | Fisker | and then it'll be hard to clean because it'll be stuck in those ridges |
| 17:45.56 | Lopeppeppy | Pressure hose, like on Dirty Jobs. |
| 17:46.11 | Fisker | it'll puncture |
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| 17:46.35 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, you can wear high heels in those things, it won't puncture from some hosing down. |
| 17:46.53 | Computerpunk | Another question on my mind: date("%m/%d/%y %H:%M:%S") How do I compare if the day isn't the same? |
| 17:47.10 | Fisker | oh really? |
| 17:47.16 | Fisker | I can clean in high heels then wee |
| 17:47.49 | Lopeppeppy | SS or it didn't happen, Fisker. o.O |
| 17:49.14 | VonhintenHOME` | fill that thing with helium imo |
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| 17:53.41 | Torhal | http://www.amazon.com/review/R3I4OA0A3WAWY1/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm |
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| 18:03.00 | Esamynn | it's too quiet in here |
| 18:03.02 | Esamynn | ~rlart |
| 18:03.03 | purl | plops _rane into a giant vat of herring |
| 18:04.07 | Nechckn_AFK | It's like "Boo!". |
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| 18:11.45 | Cloudwolf | ~cookie |
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| 18:44.08 | Lunessa | STATION! |
| 18:44.47 | Thunder_Child | keeping |
| 18:45.36 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa-dear, welcome home! |
| 18:45.44 | Lunessa | hi hi. ;) |
| 18:46.10 | Lopeppeppy | You traveled well, enjoyed the world? |
| 18:46.36 | Lunessa | It was a great trip. |
| 18:47.05 | Lunessa | I've uploaded, but not tagged, edited or labeled the photos - http://s177.photobucket.com/albums/w227/matt_converse/BlizzCon%202009/ |
| 18:47.07 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent! |
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| 18:47.41 | Lunessa | must.get.better.camera. |
| 18:47.51 | Thunder_Child | no kidding |
| 18:48.16 | alestane | My camera died three pictures into BlizzCon last year. |
| 18:48.23 | Lopeppeppy | My first view of the back of zoots head! :) |
| 18:48.27 | Thunder_Child | the fact that it cuts of the title is amusing when it says "For the Ho..." |
| 18:48.37 | Lunessa | All of those crappy shots are made with my cheesy 1.3 megapixel cell-phone camera. |
| 18:48.46 | Thunder_Child | and it's a picture of a womans back |
| 18:49.05 | Lunessa | That amused me as well. |
| 18:49.23 | Lunessa | She was really nice when I asked to take a picture of her tatts. |
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| 18:51.11 | Lunessa | But, I think I proved my geek-status; I've been home less than 12 hours, most of that has been asleep, the rest uploading pictures and logging into IRC. |
| 18:51.33 | nevcairiel | ..so? |
| 18:51.34 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 18:51.56 | alestane | Was it in doubt? |
| 18:52.12 | Lunessa | No, not really. |
| 18:52.36 | Lopeppeppy | I missed you, I'm glad you're home safely. |
| 18:53.01 | Lunessa | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 18:53.10 | Lopeppeppy | *big huggles* |
| 18:55.22 | alestane | Were you psyched at the Cataclysm announcement? |
| 18:55.33 | Cloudwolf | hmm why is the text not drawing over the frame hmm |
| 18:55.49 | Cloudwolf | lol nvm |
| 18:56.43 | Lunessa | alestane: I was. Oddly enough, Iriel and I had been discussing the issue of what to do with "old" content in MMOs the night before the announcement over drinks. We were quite pleased to see that Blizzard thinks it should be updated too. :) |
| 18:57.00 | Fisker | your name can't be matt Lunessa |
| 18:57.30 | Coren{de} | !api GetFunctionCPUUsage |
| 18:57.31 | lua_bot | GetFunctionCPUUsage: Returns information about CPU usage by a function (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetFunctionCPUUsage) |
| 18:57.39 | Lunessa | Fisker, it is Matt. Short for the lonber "Matthew" which I never use. |
| 18:57.49 | Lunessa | longer, even. |
| 18:57.56 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, i dont however like the fact that the older stuff is getting wiped out |
| 18:59.33 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: I'd say "redesigned" since they're taking the last 5 year's worth of lessons and applying them to all that old content. Some things won't entirely change. I think they said Elwynn Forest and maybe Westfall (Old Blanchy is CORE!) would remain largely the same. |
| 19:00.35 | Lunessa | But... I have two words to say about that: Heroic DeadMines. |
| 19:00.46 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, it's simple something that people will not be able to experiance ever again. and for all it's faults i think it's a loss. |
| 19:00.52 | Thunder_Child | simply* |
| 19:01.05 | Synpra___ | I agree with Thunder. I am nostalgic for classic wow and shall miss the content when it is gone. I would have preferred they use the phasing technology to give players the choice to level in the new content or old |
| 19:01.12 | Lunessa | Probably, but one I'm willing to live with. |
| 19:02.17 | Lunessa | I'm excited that classic villains are going to get to remain central to the story/world still. Ragnaros, Onyxia, DeathWing... Mmmmm |
| 19:02.40 | alestane | This way, you'll be able to tell new players how you used to level through the Barrens in the hip-deep snow. |
| 19:02.48 | alestane | Uphill both ways, no less. |
| 19:03.04 | Lunessa | And Mankrik's Wife was no where to be found. |
| 19:05.06 | Lunessa | The expansion is going to have so much goodness and excitement in it. I'm pretty stoked. I mean, Gnome Priests! |
| 19:05.09 | Esamynn | Lunessa: photos must go up here! http://blizzcon.norganna.org/main.php |
| 19:05.58 | Lunessa | Esamynn Feel free to snag any you wish to include. |
| 19:06.01 | batrick | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 19:06.03 | batrick | Shirik |
| 19:06.06 | alestane | Of all the directions they could have chosen for a new expansion, I think this was one of the better ones. Knowing Blizzard's track record, the only thing likely to be desirable about the old content over the new is precisely that it is the old content you're comfortable with. |
| 19:06.06 | Esamynn | Lunessa: !!! |
| 19:06.14 | batrick | !lua return io.output "somefile" |
| 19:06.22 | batrick | damn batbot |
| 19:07.00 | Shirik | batrick: I've just solved the P=NP problem |
| 19:07.17 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:07.45 | alestane | People should put together photo albums and other memorials of the old Azeroth...got at least a year to work on them still. |
| 19:08.00 | Esamynn | you think it'll be that long? |
| 19:08.10 | Lunessa | I'm betting on Alpha in Feb. |
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| 19:08.39 | alestane | WotLK was announced two years ago and 3.0 went live last October. |
| 19:08.54 | Coren{de} | Shirik, and what's the solution? = or !=? |
| 19:08.58 | Shirik | = |
| 19:09.01 | Lopeppeppy | 6 months of alpha/beta equals... about a year from now. :) |
| 19:09.06 | Shirik | lua> p == np |
| 19:09.07 | lua_bot | Shirik: true |
| 19:09.09 | Shirik | proof ^ |
| 19:09.55 | Coren{de} | so, lua_bot has solved it... now, all we need is its deduction :D |
| 19:09.57 | Lunessa | Man, so many faces at the dinner. I didn't get a chance to meet everyone. |
| 19:10.21 | Lopeppeppy | I went around the tables like a butterfly last year, made sure to at least get names. |
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| 19:11.50 | batrick | !lua "hi" |
| 19:11.57 | batbot | batrick: > hi |
| 19:14.41 | ScytheBlade1 | does batbot still respond to -->? |
| 19:14.44 | ScytheBlade1 | --> "epic fail" |
| 19:14.44 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: > epic fail |
| 19:14.47 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
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| 19:16.32 | Lunessa | You know what was epic fail? Walking into a crowd of people from this channel, and yelling "Station" and everyone stared at me blankly. |
| 19:16.41 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:16.45 | ScytheBlade1 | that's awesome |
| 19:17.40 | End | stares at Lunessa blankly. |
| 19:18.02 | Lunessa | ends End. |
| 19:18.08 | End | is ended. |
| 19:21.49 | Thunder_Child | see, now i would have laughed....or sighed |
| 19:22.00 | Lopeppeppy | I would have cried. *sniff sniff* |
| 19:22.18 | Sesshu | poor Lopeppeppy |
| 19:22.47 | Lopeppeppy | Not that many girls on the channel, I think I'd have gotten recognized, or at least *guessed* at. |
| 19:22.55 | Lunessa | It was pretty funny to look at everyone - many of whom were meeting me in person for the first time - trying to work out WTF that was about. |
| 19:23.33 | nicoli_s | station? |
| 19:23.58 | Lunessa | But I did have a moment where I thought "oh fuck, I'll never live that down." |
| 19:24.06 | Lunessa | station. |
| 19:24.22 | nicoli_s | whats dat mean? |
| 19:24.30 | Lopeppeppy | It means, "Hi, I'm Lunessa" |
| 19:24.57 | Lunessa | It means anything. CF: "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey" |
| 19:24.59 | Sesshu | ~hi |
| 19:25.00 | purl | hello, sesshu |
| 19:26.34 | Cide | Shirik: now prove it in polynomial time |
| 19:26.42 | Lunessa | Shirik or other WoWI admin - http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14569-Shaankylock.html is using a copyright protected image for its image. |
| 19:26.43 | Shirik | I proved it in constant time |
| 19:27.10 | Cide | bah |
| 19:27.30 | Shirik | what are you talking about Lunessa |
| 19:27.52 | Lunessa | That's a Penny Arcade comic, likely used without permission. |
| 19:28.02 | Shirik | there's no image on that page |
| 19:28.09 | Sesshu | already deleted |
| 19:28.15 | Sesshu | i thnik |
| 19:28.22 | Sesshu | think |
| 19:28.23 | Lunessa | Well, well, well... |
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| 19:29.17 | Cloudwolf | yay my addon now has saving and loading capabilities XD |
| 19:29.34 | Cloudwolf | now i just gota figure out an easy wayt o display allt he names of the saved files so people know the names that they saved stuff as |
| 19:29.34 | roastx | can i load porn |
| 19:29.41 | Sesshu | yes |
| 19:29.48 | Cloudwolf | <.< >.> PORN where? |
| 19:29.58 | Coren{de} | is there a way to determine which function is wasting CPU cycles, without going all over _G and GetFunctionCPUUsage? |
| 19:29.58 | roastx | thats what i need to make |
| 19:29.59 | Sesshu | everywhere |
| 19:30.02 | roastx | and ingame porn addon |
| 19:30.04 | roastx | an |
| 19:30.25 | Sesshu | great idea |
| 19:31.05 | Lopeppeppy | I need popcorn... popcorn is awesome. |
| 19:31.09 | Shirik | Coren{de}: That wouldn't be a good solution anyway |
| 19:31.39 | Coren{de} | Shirik, I don |
| 19:31.42 | roastx | i need to eat a large portion of animal |
| 19:32.02 | Lunessa | oh, food. brb |
| 19:32.07 | Coren{de} | Shirik, I don't care about the quality of the solution, it's just driving me nuts that something causes 4 seconds for a tooltip of an item |
| 19:32.29 | Shirik | it's very possible it won't be listed if you do that |
| 19:32.46 | alestane | roastx: Your best reference for that is here: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8583-HighRoller.html |
| 19:32.50 | Shirik | I'd venture to say "extremely likely" |
| 19:33.20 | Shirik | however, if you have no idea where to look, that's the best place I can think of to start |
| 19:33.21 | Coren{de} | Shirik, which is one reason why I'd like to have a simpler solution :D |
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| 19:35.05 | Coren{de} | basically, I have a scrollframe with a number of item buttons distributed across it... and the top buttons work as expected, the bottom ones take centuries... they are all created in one single loop, no obvious differences between besides being at the top or the bottom... I'm at a loss :( |
| 19:35.36 | Zyn | http://inbflat.net/ |
| 19:39.34 | Shirik | is there a launch tonight? |
| 19:40.07 | Shirik | yes there is |
| 19:40.16 | Shirik | I shall be forced to take some pictures |
| 19:40.35 | foxlit | You're missing the important question: |
| 19:40.38 | foxlit | is there lunch tonight? |
| 19:40.40 | Lopeppeppy | Forced. |
| 19:40.41 | nicoli_s | launch of what? |
| 19:40.42 | Zyn | and this time, they're using a massive slingshot |
| 19:41.08 | Lunessa | mmmm... bacon |
| 19:41.30 | Shirik | nicoli_s, shuttle |
| 19:43.20 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 19:43.42 | Coren{de} | 3 full seconds for a call to GameTooltip:SetHyperlink, this is seriously wicked :| |
| 19:44.26 | Shirik | !!!! |
| 19:44.35 | Shirik | Part of STS-128 mission: STS-128 will fly the Combined Operational Load-Bearing External Resistance Treadmill, or COLBERT. |
| 19:45.35 | Fisker | i'm gonna kill you |
| 19:45.56 | nicoli_s | awesome |
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| 19:52.52 | Esamynn | Shirik: O_o |
| 19:53.49 | durcyn | You had me right up until "Treadmill" |
| 19:54.12 | ScytheBlade1 | durcyn: that is seriously what they named it |
| 19:54.24 | Esamynn | how does one "fly" a treadmill? |
| 19:54.27 | Cloudwolf | if i know the global name of one of my frames how can i go about calling that inside of the lua? |
| 19:54.49 | durcyn | ScytheBlade1: right, they had to backronym it because of the toilet module name fiasco, right? |
| 19:54.51 | Cloudwolf | cus im trying to call a local that has a global name(its a frame) outside of that same funciton |
| 19:56.00 | alestane | Cloudwolf: If you give a frame a name when it is created, _G[thatName] is set to the frame. |
| 19:56.10 | Shirik | Esamynn: It's being flown up to the space station... |
| 19:56.13 | Cloudwolf | ty alestane |
| 19:56.16 | Shirik | how else do you expect it to get there |
| 19:58.08 | Cloudwolf | ok this is driving me nuts |
| 19:58.13 | Esamynn | Shirik: ahh |
| 19:58.27 | Shirik | Esamynn: I need a name for an open-source Lua-extensible UML modeler, transformer, verifier, and generator |
| 19:58.33 | Shirik | go |
| 19:58.43 | Esamynn | Shirik: you want me to to name something... |
| 19:58.46 | Esamynn | ROFLMAO |
| 19:58.50 | Shirik | I want you to create a name |
| 19:58.53 | Cloudwolf | alestane is thre a reason _G["NoteToteNoteBG"]:Show() that wont work? |
| 19:58.55 | Lopeppeppy | Velma |
| 19:59.08 | Lunessa | Shirik: Borg. |
| 19:59.39 | Shirik | Borg sounds like a great way to get sued |
| 19:59.54 | Esamynn | LEUMTVG |
| 20:00.03 | Shirik | I will destroy you |
| 20:00.07 | Esamynn | ;) |
| 20:00.08 | alestane | Not as long as that's the correct name of a frame. |
| 20:00.38 | Esamynn | Shirik: you asked me to create a name, you didn't say it had to be a good one :P |
| 20:01.40 | Lunessa | Need more RAM. This means ChatZilla must go... See you folks tomorrow. |
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| 20:01.56 | Cloudwolf | nvm fixed it |
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| 20:07.18 | Coren{de} | Hm. Is it possible that it is unadvisable to anchor lots of frames sequentially to each other? might that create lots of CPU load? should I rather go for absolute positioning on the parent? /ponder |
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| 20:08.37 | alestane | It might, actually, since it means that the last frame's position cannot be calculated without first calculating the positions of all prior frames. |
| 20:09.06 | alestane | Depends whether the anchoring code does any kind of rectangle caching. |
| 20:09.53 | Lopeppeppy | I would swear someone recently said your children frames should be linear, and you should only move the parent.... |
| 20:11.51 | Ackis | *sigh* |
| 20:12.07 | Coren{de} | I guess I'll have to add additional frames per group, maybe that helps... still doesn't explain the GameTooltip:SetHyperlink behaviour though |
| 20:12.22 | Lopeppeppy | What sigh, Ackis? |
| 20:12.56 | Ackis | http://www.edmontonhumanesociety.com/index.php?option=com_adoptions&view=details&adoptionid=17319&Itemid=5 |
| 20:13.05 | Ackis | we have his brother |
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| 20:13.28 | Lopeppeppy | Awww. |
| 20:13.48 | Lopeppeppy | I could really smack humans. They teach kittens how to play, and then don't like the results? |
| 20:13.49 | Lopeppeppy | Jerks. |
| 20:14.06 | nicoli_s | my kitty is going into surgery today :( |
| 20:14.14 | Lopeppeppy | Spay/neuter, nicoli_s? |
| 20:14.21 | nicoli_s | amputate front log :( |
| 20:14.24 | foxlit | Twilight's Hammer needs to open up a clothing exchange store. |
| 20:14.31 | nicoli_s | leg* |
| 20:14.41 | cbreak | cats play to hunt |
| 20:14.52 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, that stinks, nicoli_s, but cats are much more adaptable to amputation than humans are, kitty will come around fine in the end. |
| 20:14.52 | nicoli_s | turned out he didnt get shot with a bbgun like we thought, he got shot with a shotgun |
| 20:15.02 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I really could go kill that human. |
| 20:15.02 | nicoli_s | yah thats what i've read |
| 20:15.05 | nicoli_s | ditto |
| 20:15.30 | Ackis | nicoli_s: I'm so sorry :( |
| 20:15.39 | Lopeppeppy | I could maybe, maybe see a bb gun if the cat were after my chickens... but even then, that's pushing it and I get angry. There's never any cause to shoot an animal you're not gonna eat. |
| 20:15.58 | nicoli_s | thx, its been a tough few days, but hes been doing really good, and hes a real tough kitty |
| 20:16.20 | *** join/#wowuidev Cide (n=eandre@h161n1-far-gr100.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 20:16.20 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 20:16.31 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: I shot grous when I wasn't going to eat them :P (my brother was :P) |
| 20:17.33 | nicoli_s | but now this means we gotta take him back since my gf's parents arent around enough to watch him, so now i'll have 4 indoor kitties |
| 20:17.45 | Ackis | there's always room for one more |
| 20:17.55 | Ackis | right now after looking at the EHS page I want to get about 5 more animals |
| 20:18.01 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 20:18.04 | *** join/#wowuidev Kalroth (n=kalroth@2506ds1-hj.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 20:18.05 | cbreak | cats are menat to live outdoors |
| 20:18.05 | Gnarfoz | !api promote |
| 20:18.05 | lua_bot | Found 4 possible results for 'promote': PromoteToLeader, GuildPromote, PromoteToAssistant, CanGuildPromote |
| 20:18.20 | nicoli_s | cbreak: i know, but i live in an area with lots of cars |
| 20:18.23 | Shirik | hahahahaha |
| 20:18.25 | Shirik | Cide is so awesome |
| 20:18.39 | nicoli_s | and i found one of my kitties standing in the middle of the road staring at the car about to run it over, so i dont trust them outside for shit |
| 20:18.45 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/123787 |
| 20:18.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Cide (n=Cide@h161n1-far-gr100.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 20:18.55 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 20:18.55 | Ackis | I live in an area with a bunch of trash (white, black, yellow, etc) so I don't trust them |
| 20:19.00 | Shirik | Cide: http://wowi.pastey.net/123787 |
| 20:19.12 | Cide | fuck mirc, I'm back to xchat |
| 20:19.43 | Lopeppeppy | I can only have 2 housepets per my lease, my two "twin" tiger tabbies. |
| 20:20.31 | nicoli_s | same here Lopeppeppy, but oh well |
| 20:20.40 | nicoli_s | 4 isnt THAT much more than 2 :P |
| 20:22.10 | Lopeppeppy | Exponentially speaking, no... :P |
| 20:22.24 | roastx | cats live longer indoors |
| 20:22.38 | nicoli_s | theres a guy in our apt complex with a 20 yr old kitty |
| 20:22.54 | Lopeppeppy | I've had 22 year old cats in my family, purebred evil siamese. |
| 20:23.10 | roastx | thatz old |
| 20:23.14 | nicoli_s | very |
| 20:23.19 | roastx | did it need a wheelchair |
| 20:23.43 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, was slashing ankles from behind the couch up to the week she died. :) |
| 20:23.54 | roastx | aww how cute |
| 20:24.11 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, for different values of cute. When I was 8, she wasn't so cute! |
| 20:24.12 | roastx | i had a cat that would latch on to peoples limbing and playfully bite |
| 20:24.18 | roastx | that was an amusing party favorite |
| 20:24.21 | roastx | limbs |
| 20:24.37 | alestane | That's a Siamese for you. |
| 20:25.09 | roastx | mines friendly not sassy |
| 20:25.15 | roastx | he wouldnt do something like that |
| 20:25.44 | roastx | !api note |
| 20:25.45 | lua_bot | Found 6 possible results for 'note': CanEditPublicNote, CanViewOfficerNote, GuildRosterSetPublicNote, CanEditOfficerNote, GuildRosterSetOfficerNote, SetFriendNotes |
| 20:25.58 | roastx | neato bot |
| 20:26.05 | Lopeppeppy | Some can be awesome, don't get me wrong. Chantal was pure evil though. :) |
| 20:26.35 | roastx | yeah seems like cat personalities are just in varying levels of sassiness |
| 20:26.43 | Ackis | so I'm having my first ever guests over for dinner tomorrow... I'm nervous |
| 20:26.49 | roastx | maybe there's a sassy gene |
| 20:26.57 | Lopeppeppy | What type of guests, Ackis? What type of dinner? |
| 20:27.04 | roastx | make kraft dinner |
| 20:27.24 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: my dog's trainer lol |
| 20:27.29 | roastx | !api porn |
| 20:27.29 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'porn'. |
| 20:27.37 | roastx | !api !api |
| 20:27.37 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for '!api'. |
| 20:27.38 | Ackis | her and her roommate and maybe boyfriend are going to come over |
| 20:27.44 | Ackis | as for what food no idea yet |
| 20:27.48 | Esamynn | ~lart roastx |
| 20:27.48 | purl | whacks roastx with a giant beaver's tail |
| 20:27.58 | roastx | wat |
| 20:28.00 | Lopeppeppy | .... oiy, Ackis. No food plans yet? |
| 20:28.10 | cogwheel | "You might be a redneck if you think TiVo was a member of the Jackson 5" |
| 20:28.14 | Ackis | we just found out about an hour ago :P lol |
| 20:28.20 | Lopeppeppy | For tonight's dinner? I suggest a Stouffer's deep dish mac and cheese, and some good bread from the bakery section. |
| 20:28.25 | Ackis | tomorrow |
| 20:28.30 | Ackis | it's tomorrow not tonight |
| 20:28.33 | Lopeppeppy | Mac takes... an hour and a half to cook? |
| 20:28.51 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, tomorrow is easier, you can figure it out. Any veggiesaurs? |
| 20:29.01 | Ackis | nope |
| 20:29.05 | Ackis | just a bunch of wowfags |
| 20:29.06 | Ackis | lol |
| 20:29.07 | roastx | i suggest roast duck and filet mignon, with a fine chardonnay |
| 20:29.13 | Ackis | ~lart roastx |
| 20:29.13 | purl | hits roastx with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
| 20:29.28 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 20:29.28 | purl | Esamynn: thanks |
| 20:29.41 | Ackis | I'm thinking bbq steak/chicken with perogies and caesar salad and cream corn |
| 20:29.56 | Lopeppeppy | Stouffers makes good lasagna if you're not up for doing meal prep. And I loooooove shepherd's pie, so easy and so yummy |
| 20:30.04 | roastx | should have wow crackers instead of animal crackers |
| 20:30.10 | *** join/#wowuidev batbot (n=batbot@batbytes.com) |
| 20:30.13 | roastx | so i can eat tauren |
| 20:30.33 | roastx | hm perogies |
| 20:30.37 | roastx | havent had them in a while |
| 20:30.44 | roastx | tastiez |
| 20:30.56 | Lopeppeppy | Very. |
| 20:31.02 | Ackis | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/funny-pictures-kitten-wants-own-room.jpg lol |
| 20:31.06 | roastx | with sour cream |
| 20:31.24 | roastx | do you fry or bake em |
| 20:31.38 | Ackis | perogies, boil or fry |
| 20:32.21 | roastx | thats alot of kitten flesh |
| 20:32.27 | roastx | should harvest it |
| 20:33.01 | Lopeppeppy | They're like rabbit and squirrel, only really good in a stew. |
| 20:33.48 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: kitties? O_o |
| 20:34.24 | Lopeppeppy | just conversin' with roastx. Not something I'd eat, but culturally speaking there are areas where that's done, and I'd imagine stew is the best way. |
| 20:34.31 | Cloudwolf | hmm how are item links handled? |
| 20:35.14 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: I didn't realize cats were food... I knew dogs were... guess I should've assumed cats too |
| 20:36.02 | Lopeppeppy | If it's small and "farmable", it's edible, I'd guess. |
| 20:36.06 | Esamynn | Cloudwolf: very delicately, they're highly unstable |
| 20:36.17 | roastx | i never knew how to eat kittens, now that i know i will go kidnip some from the neighbours for supper |
| 20:36.23 | roastx | thanks for the suggestion Lopeppeppy ! |
| 20:36.30 | Esamynn | ~lart roastx |
| 20:36.30 | purl | acting on orders from an unspecified client drags roastx into court suing for $200 million |
| 20:36.41 | Lopeppeppy | ~whalenuke roastx |
| 20:36.42 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around roastx with his mind powers. |
| 20:36.45 | Cloudwolf | hmm cus it would be realy nice to be able to shove them into my notepad addon so i knew the stats on the item rather than just the name |
| 20:36.55 | Ackis | Cloudwolf: handled how? ie: how they're created? there's a decent article about it on wowwiki |
| 20:37.07 | Cloudwolf | im interested in the ability to put item links insdie of an editbox |
| 20:37.13 | Cloudwolf | and be able to click them as if it were like chat |
| 20:37.20 | Ackis | yah the itemlink article will tell you all aboot them |
| 20:37.30 | Cloudwolf | is it an article or a howto? |
| 20:37.47 | Ackis | it breaks the links down into its elements |
| 20:37.54 | Cloudwolf | k |
| 20:37.57 | Ackis | from there you just treat it as text |
| 20:38.07 | Ackis | (kind of) |
| 20:38.35 | Cloudwolf | oh god color hex codes? |
| 20:38.39 | Esamynn | just be careful when dismantling them, one wrong move, and BOOOM! |
| 20:38.44 | Ackis | yup |
| 20:38.55 | Ackis | Esamynn: I'll go boom in your face! HAH |
| 20:39.08 | Coren{de} | yay, the addional frames make an *awesome* difference :D WoW really doesn't like to sort out 40 frame anchors by itself :> |
| 20:39.45 | Esamynn | you chain anchored 40 frames? |
| 20:39.49 | Esamynn | like 40 deep? |
| 20:40.45 | Coren{de} | define deep :D I have ~50 frames on a scrollframe, and I anchored them one after another to each other, in a grid-like manner... |
| 20:41.13 | Coren{de} | (not the addon grid, just a 2-dim arrangement) |
| 20:43.45 | Coren{de} | added box frames per ~7 frames, now it's fluent again :D |
| 20:45.53 | mikma | http://mmowned.com/ |
| 20:48.43 | mikma | cloudwolf: now, insert some conditions to pop up the noteboxes |
| 20:49.06 | Cloudwolf | hmm? |
| 20:49.20 | Cloudwolf | talking about for item links? |
| 20:50.40 | nicoli_s | damn mmowned got taken down too? |
| 20:51.32 | nicoli_s | its so funny how blizz didnt do shit about blizzhackers and that hacking community till wow got really big then they finally started using their muscle to take them down |
| 20:52.03 | nevcairiel | you say damn when they take it down? :P |
| 20:52.12 | nicoli_s | like im surprised it finally happened |
| 20:52.30 | nicoli_s | was just a huge community of script kiddies mostly anyways |
| 20:52.41 | Lopeppeppy | These things do take time, ya'know. It's not like someone walks in, says "take this down", and the site just meekly agrees. |
| 20:52.59 | mikma | cloudwolf: no, talking about the note addon |
| 20:53.13 | nicoli_s | well they took gotwow.net down within a month or so of it being up when it became the wow emu community headquarters |
| 20:53.22 | nicoli_s | wheras it took them like 5 years to take down blizzhackers |
| 20:53.38 | Cloudwolf | ehmm.... mikma you have lost me i kinda got most of it working |
| 20:53.43 | Cloudwolf | now i actualy need to work on deleting notes lol |
| 20:53.44 | Lopeppeppy | Wonder who could pay for the best lawyers? :) |
| 20:54.14 | mikma | cloudwolf: there's addon that lets you enter notes that will pop up when you ie. land from taxi or zone in to town |
| 20:54.28 | Shirik | http://code.google.com/p/madurai/ |
| 20:54.28 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 20:54.40 | Cloudwolf | heh uh not the point of what i was working on |
| 20:54.52 | mikma | and? |
| 20:55.57 | cogwheel | anyone know when Lunessa's due back? |
| 20:56.01 | Cloudwolf | I expect thats a bit outa my league and wasn't hte point of this addon |
| 20:56.09 | kd3 | what the hell kinda mouse has /31/ buttons on it? |
| 20:56.11 | Lopeppeppy | cogwheel, he's back, he checked in earlier. |
| 20:56.19 | cogwheel | Lopeppeppy: oh kk |
| 20:56.29 | Lopeppeppy | kd3, the Super Overkill Mouse That NoOne With Human Hands Can Use. |
| 20:56.45 | Lopeppeppy | He put up some photos, then jetted because he was out of RAM in some way. |
| 20:57.16 | Elusive | Mmowned is... down? |
| 20:57.31 | Shirik | mmowned got owned! |
| 20:57.47 | nevcairiel | finaly |
| 20:57.49 | nevcairiel | +l |
| 20:57.52 | Elusive | How did they get owned? |
| 20:57.55 | Elusive | C&D letter? |
| 20:57.56 | Shirik | I dunno |
| 20:57.59 | Shirik | it just sounded cool |
| 20:58.02 | Elusive | lol |
| 20:58.10 | Shirik | their site is down |
| 20:58.36 | Elusive | does MMOwned have their own IRC channel anywhere? |
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| 20:58.43 | Fisker | ã
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| 21:00.33 | Shirik | stabs Fisker |
| 21:00.35 | nicoli_s | probably elusive |
| 21:01.10 | Cloudwolf | well it aint on freenode |
| 21:02.00 | Fisker | meh |
| 21:02.04 | Fisker | it's just cpanel |
| 21:02.40 | Shirik | Great Success ! |
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| 21:02.55 | Cide | I'm a great success |
| 21:02.57 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 21:02.59 | Fisker | i might find you |
| 21:03.06 | Shirik | and I might become a ninja |
| 21:04.28 | Fisker | and i might become a pirate |
| 21:04.34 | Shirik | well then you will lose |
| 21:05.09 | Fisker | naw |
| 21:05.13 | Fisker | pirates are way cooler |
| 21:08.13 | roastx | ill become an obese wow player |
| 21:08.41 | roastx | A metal slime approaches! |
| 21:08.49 | roastx | eats a dorito |
| 21:08.58 | roastx | Metal slime attacks! |
| 21:09.01 | roastx | farts |
| 21:11.55 | Shirik | wtf is metal slime |
| 21:12.24 | Lopeppeppy | There are slimes of all kinds |
| 21:12.36 | roastx | you fail at playing dragon warrio! |
| 21:12.39 | roastx | warrior |
| 21:12.48 | Shirik | wtf is dragon warrior |
| 21:13.00 | roastx | something you should know |
| 21:13.11 | Thunder_Child | not really |
| 21:13.22 | Thunder_Child | Shirik is....high int low wis |
| 21:13.39 | Shirik | there is a difference between int and wis? |
| 21:13.43 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 21:13.46 | Shirik | why |
| 21:14.01 | Thunder_Child | one is book smarts the other is experiance |
| 21:14.05 | nevcairiel | asking that shows that TC is right :P |
| 21:14.12 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ^^ |
| 21:14.15 | Shirik | :< |
| 21:14.47 | NightHawkTheSan1 | really, any dictionary would be able to tell you the difference between intelligence and wisdom. ;) |
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| 21:15.02 | Cide | nah |
| 21:15.09 | Cide | I have since redefined the attributes' meaning |
| 21:15.18 | Shirik | I took it to be intellect and wisdom |
| 21:15.25 | Shirik | though, blessing of wisdom is mp5, not +int |
| 21:15.54 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ... because there's such a huge difference between 'intellect' and 'intelligence' :P |
| 21:16.04 | Shirik | there is! |
| 21:16.09 | Thunder_Child | it is not wow based |
| 21:16.23 | Shirik | however, I'm assuing "dragon warrior" has both int and wis |
| 21:16.23 | Thunder_Child | it was more generic with a flavor of D&D |
| 21:16.33 | Shirik | I would still like to know the difference |
| 21:16.39 | Thunder_Child | no shirik...you are not getting it |
| 21:16.44 | Shirik | like how it actually impacts |
| 21:16.58 | NightHawkTheSan1 | I dont actually think dragon warrior has both int and wis stats, does it? |
| 21:17.07 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i haven't played a dragon warrior in ages, though |
| 21:17.11 | Shirik | I would hope not, which is where my original statement came from |
| 21:17.24 | roastx | this conversation just gets better! |
| 21:17.37 | Thunder_Child | oh ffs, i was saying that Shirik didnt know it because of the low wis, i was not talking about the dragon warrior in the first place |
| 21:17.40 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Shirik: no, you're original question comes from the fact that you don't understand how those two words could be used to represent differnent things, regardless of system :P |
| 21:17.48 | Thunder_Child | ok, i give up |
| 21:17.49 | Shirik | your! |
| 21:17.51 | Shirik | bad |
| 21:17.51 | Shirik | man |
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| 21:17.58 | NightHawkTheSan1 | yeah, 'your', sorry |
| 21:18.00 | End | ur |
| 21:18.08 | Shirik | ur is better than you're |
| 21:18.13 | NightHawkTheSan1 | I'm terrible about confusing those when i'm not paying attention. |
| 21:18.23 | Shirik | obvious solution: pay attention |
| 21:18.33 | NightHawkTheSan1 | but then i'd miss what's happening in the movie.. |
| 21:18.41 | Shirik | movies are overrated |
| 21:18.51 | End | Shirik is overrated |
| 21:18.56 | NightHawkTheSan1 | probably, but they are entertaining. |
| 21:19.06 | Shirik | @ End: What NightHawkTheSan1 said |
| 21:19.12 | End | lol |
| 21:20.17 | nevcairiel | oh hey .. so thats where kd3 got the idea about 31 buttons |
| 21:20.27 | NightHawkTheSan1 | indeed |
| 21:20.37 | End | oh, so you're finally looking at the diff? |
| 21:20.40 | End | :P |
| 21:20.49 | nevcairiel | yeah yeah :P |
| 21:20.59 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i wonder if this means my mouse6-mouse8 buttons will work in wow now >.> |
| 21:21.57 | nevcairiel | OPTION_TOOLTIP_WOW_MOUSE = "Enable this option if you have a mouse with more than 5 buttons and you want to be able to assign actions to the extra buttons."; |
| 21:22.00 | nevcairiel | possibly ^ |
| 21:22.15 | NightHawkTheSan1 | hah |
| 21:22.21 | roastx | !api mouse |
| 21:22.22 | lua_bot | Found 21 possible matches for 'mouse'. Please be more specific |
| 21:22.26 | NightHawkTheSan1 | now, why do they need an OPTION for that? o_0 |
| 21:22.28 | roastx | !api mousesex |
| 21:22.28 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'mousesex'. |
| 21:22.48 | nevcairiel | speaking of lots of buttons, the only mouse i can think of that would even need that .. http://www.getimba.com/ |
| 21:22.50 | roastx | useless bot |
| 21:23.36 | NightHawkTheSan1 | nevcairiel: probably, and it was probably done specifically with that in mind, with some room to grow |
| 21:24.14 | nevcairiel | that brings me back to my argument that i probably dont have enough fine-control in my thumb to control a freaking touchpad :P |
| 21:24.41 | NightHawkTheSan1 | yeah, me either. :P |
| 21:24.48 | NightHawkTheSan1 | let alone -remembering- all that |
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| 21:56.25 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 22:01.27 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 22:01.28 | purl | ~pong |
| 22:01.30 | Shirik | sigh |
| 22:01.40 | Shirik | wtb DNS server that is not full of suck |
| 22:01.51 | foxlit | a.gtld-servers.net |
| 22:01.52 | foxlit | go. |
| 22:02.05 | Shirik | uh |
| 22:02.26 | Shirik | do I need to point out the flaw with that instruction? |
| 22:02.46 | zenzelezz | which DNS are you using now? |
| 22:02.51 | Shirik | ISP |
| 22:02.56 | kd3 | points at opendns |
| 22:02.57 | zenzelezz | tried OpenDNS? |
| 22:02.58 | zenzelezz | bah! |
| 22:03.09 | foxlit | Shirik: there are multiple ones. |
| 22:03.24 | Shirik | foxlit... how do you expect me to use that DNS server when I am unable to resolve a.gtld-servers.net |
| 22:03.38 | kd3 | 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220 |
| 22:03.38 | nevcairiel | (00:03:39) dns: resolving (a.gtld-servers.net)... |
| 22:03.39 | nevcairiel | (00:03:40) dns: resolved (a.gtld-servers.net) to (192.5.6.30) |
| 22:03.40 | nevcairiel | go. |
| 22:03.40 | kd3 | go and have fun |
| 22:03.47 | Shirik | <3 |
| 22:05.23 | nevcairiel | although, using the root server directly might not work out, since they probably dont allow recursive querys =P |
| 22:06.07 | foxlit | Would DNS clients not be able to handle that? |
| 22:06.12 | nevcairiel | I dunno |
| 22:06.21 | Shirik | I always thought it was something the client did |
| 22:06.22 | nevcairiel | usually the ISPs DNS Servers do that |
| 22:06.30 | foxlit | I mean, they do point you at the servers responsible for that |
| 22:06.39 | Pneumatus | OpenDNS are 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 |
| 22:06.43 | Pneumatus | they are my regular backups |
| 22:06.51 | nevcairiel | I would think the clients should be able to handle that |
| 22:06.54 | Pneumatus | ah, i see they were posted already |
| 22:07.14 | nevcairiel | however, the ISP's servers still do it for you |
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| 22:13.43 | Shirik | someone needs to talk to NASA about no-www |
| 22:14.35 | *** part/#wowuidev malreth (n=Adium@dhcp-128-83-45-226.its.utexas.edu) |
| 22:15.10 | Coren{de} | argl. splitting strings while encrypting and switching salt in between surprisingly yields garbage :D |
| 22:16.59 | foxlit | Hey, encryption. |
| 22:17.02 | foxlit | /point /mock |
| 22:20.45 | Shirik | foxlit |
| 22:20.49 | Shirik | weren't you the creator of prism? |
| 22:22.03 | foxlit | Let me split hairs by saying that it doesn't actually encrypt *data*. :) |
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| 22:23.35 | Aelobin | om nom nom |
| 22:25.41 | Shirik | foxlit: ? |
| 22:25.47 | Shirik | Was that an answer to my question? |
| 22:26.13 | foxlit | In much the same way as this is an answer to your current question. |
| 22:26.42 | Shirik | ... |
| 22:26.49 | foxlit | [It's "yes"] |
| 22:27.46 | Coren{de} | I think I looked for that after Shirik mentioned it, and I found it nowhere... what does it actually do, if it doesn't encrypt data? |
| 22:28.16 | foxlit | Curse ate it, I think. |
| 22:29.44 | Shirik | well I used it for code signing |
| 22:29.59 | foxlit | It's a hash + RSA implementation. |
| 22:30.02 | Coren{de} | Doh. I wrote a crappy encryption scheme myself meanwhile... but if you find it again, I'd be really interested in trying it |
| 22:30.54 | Shirik | of course, it should be pointed out that Lua does not enjoy doing ths math |
| 22:31.39 | foxlit | Coren{de}: I don't think it'd actually help you with much. |
| 22:32.34 | foxlit | It's semi-bearable if you need to verify that something came from a single, known source that can sign things using a proper app. |
| 22:34.41 | Shirik | ^ |
| 22:35.51 | Coren{de} | that sounds more like hashing than encryption :/ |
| 22:37.34 | Coren{de} | tbh, RSA is probably overkill anyways, I'm fine with a simple symmetrical stream cipher and a "key" of size longint :D |
| 22:37.53 | foxlit | I have no idea what you're doing. |
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| 22:39.04 | Coren{de} | distributing encrypted data to multiple other players and then yelling the key to decrypt it so all can decrypt at the same time |
| 22:39.57 | foxlit | If you can yell the key, why can't you yell the data? |
| 22:40.17 | Coren{de} | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14012-CommonersQuestbyKrbrEU-Proudmoore.html - for quests that are races like scavenger hunts |
| 22:41.05 | Coren{de} | data (quest description, quest objectives, quest rewards) would be more than 255 chars |
| 22:42.24 | foxlit | So? :) |
| 22:42.48 | foxlit | Are you concerned that someone would write an addon that would display partial fragments of data to individual players while you're transmitting it? |
| 22:42.59 | Lopeppeppy | What use is anywho.com if it never finds anyone for me? :) |
| 22:45.53 | Coren{de} | well, there's already enough channel abuse, no need to abuse /yell also :D and no, that's not the concern, it's just something I wanted to add. |
| 22:47.05 | Cruciformer | does anyone know if there is a convenient way to prevent things like auctioneer / equipcompare from adding their crap to item tooltips? |
| 22:47.29 | Cruciformer | (in specific places where I pop up the tooltip) |
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| 22:48.28 | nicoli_s | seems like there should be a way to unhook them |
| 22:48.32 | Lopeppeppy | Don't use them? |
| 22:48.44 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster may know |
| 22:49.11 | Cruciformer | Lopeppeppy: Not an option. If someone is using them I want it to display in all the usual places it does, just not in a few specific places where I call up the tooltip. |
| 22:49.28 | Arrowmaster | use a custom tooltip for those places |
| 22:49.41 | Cruciformer | see I knew arrow would know :) |
| 22:49.57 | Cruciformer | is that relatively easy to do? |
| 22:50.24 | Arrowmaster | and put a comment in your code where you create the tooltip that you are doing it to prevent those addons from displaying that crap so addons shouldnt add code to hook your tooltip |
| 22:51.10 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster: yup will do. I assume I create a new tooltip box and use that instead of using GameTooltip:SetOwner() and :SetHyperlink etc? |
| 22:51.24 | Arrowmaster` | right |
| 22:51.57 | Cruciformer | k will go research how to create that now. thank you. |
| 22:55.37 | Legorol | Cruciformer: out of curiousity, could you give an example of a situation where you want to create a tooltip but you don't want other addons to add info to it? |
| 22:55.57 | Legorol | generally if a user has installed those addons, it's because they do want to see that info, pretty much regardless of the source of the tooltip |
| 22:57.10 | Legorol | i'd recommend you put a bit of thought into user experience, i'm hardpressed to see a situation where you want to prevent a user from seeing what they voluntarily chose to see in the first place |
| 22:57.14 | Cruciformer | actually, in this particular case the auctioneer data may be useful but the equipcomapre isnt. |
| 22:57.28 | Legorol | curious, what equipcompare data are you talking about? |
| 22:57.34 | Legorol | equipcompare doesn't add anything to a tooltip |
| 22:57.48 | Cruciformer | Its a loot history list, which can go back fairly far. The problem is, auctioneer is "well behaved" and adds its crap at the bottom of the tooltip. Equipcompare adds it to the side and completely overwrites my dialog |
| 22:57.59 | Cruciformer | so youc ant see what is going on, who looted what when and how etc |
| 22:58.23 | Arrowmaster` | people still use equipcompare? |
| 22:58.27 | Cruciformer | maybe its ratingbuster and not equipcompare |
| 22:58.33 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster: I do |
| 22:58.46 | Legorol | equipcompare does display up to two additional tooltips |
| 22:58.59 | Legorol | Cruciformer: i can see how that can be a problem, but that's an issue for the user to decide how they want to handle it imo |
| 22:59.02 | Arrowmaster` | it does way too much work than needed to do that though |
| 22:59.14 | Legorol | i agree with Arrowmaster, it does :) |
| 22:59.20 | Legorol | i'd been planning to rewrite it from scratch for ages |
| 22:59.42 | Legorol | i mostly didn't bother because it just works still |
| 22:59.47 | Legorol | anyway, back on topic: |
| 22:59.54 | Legorol | Cruciformer, i think it's best to leave the decision to the user |
| 23:00.09 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster: Is there some interface into auctioneer I can call to say "please hook your tooltip extra stuff to this new tooltip frame"? |
| 23:00.20 | Legorol | if they feel that the equipcompare tooltips are in the way, they can always turn it off with a slash command whilst browsing your list |
| 23:00.29 | Cruciformer | Legorol: I am ... but I need to know what to do if they select "dont do it" :) |
| 23:00.30 | Arrowmaster` | i think but i dont know, dont really use auctioneer or have anything to do with it |
| 23:00.52 | Legorol | Cruciformer: specifically for equipcompare at least, i can also suggest checking out the API it provides |
| 23:01.02 | Legorol | equipcompare has an API that lets you add your tooltip to an exclusion list |
| 23:01.16 | Legorol | this may or may not suit your needs, but it's a start |
| 23:01.21 | Cruciformer | Oh for some reason I thought you were involved with auctioneer |
| 23:01.47 | Cruciformer | Legorol: Is that an item exclusion list or a tooltip frame exclusion list? |
| 23:02.06 | End | tooltip frame I'd imagine |
| 23:02.10 | Legorol | no, item |
| 23:02.15 | Cruciformer | Id suspect item |
| 23:02.18 | Legorol | because the tooltip is always the GameTooltip |
| 23:02.18 | End | oh, nevermind then |
| 23:02.22 | End | ah |
| 23:02.24 | End | fair enough |
| 23:02.39 | Legorol | however, i still think that you should leave it to the user to decide on their experience |
| 23:02.46 | End | I'm not really paying enough attention to the conversation :P |
| 23:02.56 | Legorol | they can switch off equipcompare if the combination of the two addons pisses them off |
| 23:03.13 | Legorol | anyway, i think i gave enough useful info for one evening :) |
| 23:03.19 | Cruciformer | Legorol: Like I said, I do. It is an option. If they select "Dont display exytra tooltip info", I need to know how to foil having extra tooltip info displayed :) |
| 23:03.27 | Aelobin | dyou need to be a crusader to buy BoA chests with champions seals? |
| 23:03.29 | Cruciformer | you did indeed, thank you :) |
| 23:04.12 | Legorol | using your custom tooltip works too, the downside then is obviously that no addon can add info to it when the user does want the extras |
| 23:04.26 | Legorol | making different addons compatible is always a bitch unfortunately |
| 23:04.44 | Cruciformer | yes considering this is a historical loot bowser, I am now starting to question if I should even display tooltips at all. |
| 23:04.57 | Legorol | i think so |
| 23:04.59 | Legorol | tooltips are good |
| 23:05.13 | Legorol | i looted an Awesome Helm of Awesomeness.. what were its stats? |
| 23:05.24 | End | or even, what spec would it have been for |
| 23:05.27 | tekkub | if you're displaying data, generally you should be using the GameTooltip proper, not your own tooltip :P |
| 23:05.35 | Cruciformer | this is more of a raid leader "who was awarded what DKP and for which item" type deal |
| 23:05.48 | Legorol | fair enough |
| 23:05.59 | Cruciformer | so its not at all germaine to your character |
| 23:06.06 | Legorol | i agree with tekkub though, if you do decide to show a tooltip, i'd suggest going for GameTooltip |
| 23:06.29 | tekkub | it's very very rare that you would need to display a tip and NOT use the GameTooltip |
| 23:06.41 | tekkub | i.e. you need your tip and GTT up at the same time |
| 23:06.53 | tekkub | which I can't think of a reason you ever would |
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| 23:07.07 | Legorol | tekkub: of course you can. itemreftooltip + gametooltip |
| 23:07.15 | Legorol | it's even in the default UI for good reasons ;) |
| 23:07.15 | Cruciformer | I would never have mine and GTT at the same time |
| 23:07.26 | tekkub | YOUR tooltip, not the game's |
| 23:08.03 | Pneumatus | GTT is only ever shown based on mouseover, right? |
| 23:08.09 | Legorol | yes |
| 23:08.30 | Arrowmaster | there is a 3rd tooltip frame in the default ui |
| 23:08.36 | Pneumatus | the compare tooltip |
| 23:08.36 | Cruciformer | it can be based on any time your mod choses to GameToolTip:Show() it really |
| 23:08.57 | Legorol | technically, there are four tooltips in the default UI |
| 23:08.58 | Cruciformer | but the typical interface is on mouseover, yes. |
| 23:09.08 | tekkub | "technically" there are 8 |
| 23:09.20 | tekkub | GTT, IRT and their 3 compare tips each |
| 23:09.23 | Legorol | four is what's used |
| 23:09.29 | Legorol | IRT has no compare tip |
| 23:09.35 | tekkub | yes it does |
| 23:09.35 | Arrowmaster` | does too |
| 23:09.39 | Legorol | O.o |
| 23:09.39 | tekkub | has 3 |
| 23:09.43 | Arrowmaster` | added in 3.2 i think |
| 23:09.48 | Legorol | that'd explain it |
| 23:09.51 | Legorol | it's got to be very new |
| 23:09.55 | Pneumatus | 3 compare tips? when would you need 3? |
| 23:09.56 | Cruciformer | what is itemreftooltip? |
| 23:10.00 | tekkub | glyphs |
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| 23:10.05 | Pneumatus | ah yes |
| 23:10.10 | tekkub | which don't actually work with compare yet |
| 23:10.11 | End | I have 3 fingers |
| 23:10.12 | Arrowmaster` | i found it and told tekkub about it so he should have made tekKompare use them |
| 23:10.15 | Pneumatus | Cruciformer: click a chat link, thats IRT |
| 23:10.20 | tekkub | and tK does :) |
| 23:10.22 | Cruciformer | ah |
| 23:10.36 | Arrowmaster` | theres a world map tooltip thingy too thats used by the world map, so thats 9 |
| 23:10.46 | Pneumatus | was gonna say, 2 makes sense for rings/trinkets |
| 23:10.50 | tekkub | long and the short of it is, if you're displaying stuff, use GTT/IRT |
| 23:10.55 | tekkub | if you're scanning tips, dont |
| 23:10.59 | Pneumatus | and mh/oh |
| 23:11.40 | Cruciformer | tekkub: did you see my usage case for why I dont want equipcompare poping stuff up? |
| 23:11.52 | tekkub | no I didn't |
| 23:12.06 | NiLon | any ideas how to equip set x, use skill and equip set y |
| 23:12.21 | NiLon | in that order it won't never equip that set y back |
| 23:12.24 | tekkub | I hide the compare tips in panda's DE panel |
| 23:12.29 | Cruciformer | I have a long historical list of loot receieved by the raid, loot not related to myc haracter at all, necessarily. The comparison tooltips completely overwrite my dialog, so you cant see who looted what and when |
| 23:12.37 | tekkub | EquipCompare can go fuck itself if it's not using them |
| 23:14.03 | tekkub | Cruciformer: http://github.com/tekkub/panda/blob/c504b93bf293f30435aa22397abc71385803b37d/Disenchanting.lua |
| 23:14.06 | Legorol | tekkub: i'll gladly tell it to :) |
| 23:14.12 | tekkub | if that doesn't work with EC, tell people to use tK |
| 23:14.32 | tekkub | EC is a hack anymore anyway, I don't think they use the API we've had since, what, 2.1? |
| 23:14.50 | Legorol | that's correct |
| 23:15.00 | Legorol | i'm lazy to rewrite it because it still works :) |
| 23:15.11 | tekkub | bah! |
| 23:15.15 | tekkub | rewrite it! |
| 23:15.19 | Legorol | i should |
| 23:15.20 | tekkub | it's sooo much simpler |
| 23:15.22 | Cruciformer | tekkub: approx which line? |
| 23:15.24 | Legorol | i know it is |
| 23:15.26 | tekkub | or just steal tK :) |
| 23:15.31 | Legorol | i wish we had the API back when i wrote it |
| 23:15.37 | tekkub | Cruciformer: all over, look for the HideCompareTips |
| 23:15.47 | tekkub | and the bool it checks |
| 23:16.04 | tekkub | Legorol: aye, it took some doing to get the API |
| 23:16.12 | tekkub | but it cleaned up the code a ton |
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| 23:16.23 | Legorol | it would clean up EC to probably just 20 lines |
| 23:16.25 | Legorol | :) |
| 23:16.34 | tekkub | that's tK right there |
| 23:16.45 | tekkub | and actually, tK is probably going to get even smaller soon |
| 23:16.53 | Cruciformer | tk? |
| 23:16.58 | tekkub | tekKompare |
| 23:16.59 | Legorol | actually, i should have a look at some point because EC's tooltips don't display the blizzard-style stat changes |
| 23:17.19 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: going to start using the code blizzard already has but doesnt use? |
| 23:17.23 | Legorol | which is both a good and bad thing, probably should be an option |
| 23:17.35 | tekkub | Legorol: I'm going to tinker with simply calling blizzy's stuff and letting it handle the details |
| 23:17.41 | Legorol | yah me too |
| 23:17.48 | Legorol | but i want to make it an option |
| 23:17.50 | tekkub | all tK will be is a forced trigger for their code, instead of on shift |
| 23:17.53 | Legorol | personally i find the stat comparisons annoying |
| 23:18.09 | Arrowmaster | isnt there an option to disable it? |
| 23:18.09 | tekkub | can't you turn them off in the default UI somewhere? |
| 23:18.19 | Legorol | maybe |
| 23:18.23 | tekkub | if there's not, then there needs to be |
| 23:18.27 | Legorol | but right now i'm a happy panda |
| 23:18.32 | Legorol | if i need them, i press shift |
| 23:18.37 | Legorol | if i don't need them, equipcompare ftw |
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| 23:23.38 | End | oops |
| 23:23.41 | End | that's... |
| 23:23.43 | End | interesting |
| 23:23.54 | End | using the animation system with edges doesn't not work at all |
| 23:24.04 | End | oh |
| 23:24.14 | End | I guess it only rotates textures/fontstrings on the frame |
| 23:24.23 | End | still, that's a strange effect :P |
| 23:24.37 | End | (I just wanted to see what would happen.) |
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| 23:29.44 | Wobin | Damn you XP for your physical RAM limitations |
| 23:30.01 | Wobin | has installed his extra 4g to only see 3.5 in Windows =P |
| 23:30.02 | Corrodias | get XP x64 :V |
| 23:30.08 | Corrodias | and languish! |
| 23:30.16 | Wobin | I'm hoping to upgrade to W7 this weekend |
| 23:30.31 | Wobin | (thus the preemptive purchase of oh gods how CHEAP IS RAM NOWADAYS?) |
| 23:30.46 | Corrodias | i want to give it a try, but i need to jump through the hoops to get a classic style quicklaunch bar |
| 23:30.46 | tekkub | I need to go find me a dmg of Snopard |
| 23:31.02 | Corrodias | (but yes, i will use it eventually) |
| 23:31.09 | Wobin | tekkub: For a second there, I thought you were talking about a hunterpet =P |
| 23:31.28 | tekkub | no, hunter has always had a bear and always will |
| 23:31.43 | Wobin | But a snowpard sounds -cool-! |
| 23:32.52 | roastx | http://computerpowertest.com/ |
| 23:33.20 | roastx | i luv w7 |
| 23:33.35 | roastx | havent used vista since i installed it |
| 23:33.46 | Slafsinator | Wouldn't that be the point entirely? ;P |
| 23:34.10 | roastx | im dual booting |
| 23:34.24 | Slafsinator | :) |
| 23:38.03 | olafski | I laughed very hard roastx :P |
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| 23:38.46 | bleeter | Have you heard about Apple's latest release? Sea Leopard - OSX for underwater phones |
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| 23:40.39 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 23:46.02 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vo7tBpT7T0&feature=player_embedded |
| 23:46.09 | Wobin | really... really nsfw |
| 23:46.33 | Lopeppeppy | Is it squeaky or loud? |
| 23:46.41 | Wobin | It's ... um.. descriptive |
| 23:46.46 | haste | Wobin: friend of mine bought 3 of those while in japan |
| 23:46.54 | Wobin | if you have sound off... chances are you'll have -no- idea wtf it is |
| 23:46.58 | haste | the clerk had the oddest look :D |
| 23:47.15 | Wobin | haste: honestly, if someone bought -one- I'd have a strange look on my face |
| 23:47.18 | Lopeppeppy | What could one need with 3? o.O |
| 23:47.28 | Wobin | but maybe the clerk was trialling one at the time, thus the look |
| 23:47.39 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: party favours? |
| 23:47.43 | haste | Wobin: he collects and resells |
| 23:47.53 | Wobin | hopefully not pre-tested =P |
| 23:48.04 | haste | I guess that's why he buys three :P |
| 23:48.56 | Lopeppeppy | I don't want to think of it as "cutting edge", okay? |
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| 23:50.11 | Lopeppeppy | Thank god, I was trying to figure how such a thing would work, but it's boy-oriented, I see. |
| 23:50.42 | Wobin | it's a bit... blocky on the outside |
| 23:50.53 | Wobin | http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/timelines/ |
| 23:50.54 | haste | at least it has spots you can push on |
| 23:50.55 | bleeter | Wobin: I'm amused how the voice over guy hasn't had the guts to rewrite the near perfect Engrish |
| 23:51.13 | Lopeppeppy | It's only good for 50 uses? |
| 23:51.29 | Wobin | bleeter: "They goddamn paid me per word, and I'm not about to flex my creative muscles to make this -better-..." |
| 23:51.57 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: if it's as good as advertised, that won't be very long =P |
| 23:52.12 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously, wouldn't a guy wear that out in about a month? |
| 23:53.43 | bleeter | Wobin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuFpBaluMwo |
| 23:53.48 | bleeter | er NSFW either |
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| 23:54.03 | Wobin | fleshlight is old |
| 23:54.31 | Lopeppeppy | Seen those a long time ago! |
| 23:54.34 | bleeter | but it's available in Mocha colour!! |
| 23:54.42 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 23:54.46 | Lopeppeppy | I prefer strawberry |
| 23:55.11 | Wobin | "-Lady- Fleshlight"? |
| 23:55.15 | Wobin | there are other options? |
| 23:55.24 | Wobin | oh Mouth |
| 23:55.26 | Wobin | ... |
| 23:55.27 | Lopeppeppy | Emu maybe? |
| 23:55.36 | Wobin | hehe it keeps going |
| 23:55.46 | Wobin | Butt Fleshlight =P |
| 23:55.54 | Wobin | oh |
| 23:56.00 | Wobin | and Non Descript Fleshlight |
| 23:56.17 | Lopeppeppy | Non descript? You mean emu |
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| 23:56.47 | Wobin | I'm not sure that the concept of having penetrative sex with an emu could be considered "Non descript" |
| 23:56.53 | Wobin | Hi Seerah! |
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| 23:57.05 | Lopeppeppy | Hi Seerah. |
| 23:57.09 | Seerah | hi Wobin and Lopeppeppy :) |
| 23:57.36 | Thunder_Child | ah, just in time for the masterbatory conversation |
| 23:57.38 | Wobin | bleeter: wow, they really got the perfectly bored female voice to voice over this |
| 23:58.44 | Lopeppeppy | Did you expect any other type of voice over? |
| 23:59.15 | bleeter | it wouldn't have been the first woman to fake interest |
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