| 00:00.12 | Arrowmaster` | now i remember why i hate xchat, how the fuck do you change the colors for the areas other than the main window |
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| 00:02.01 | mikma | arrowmaster`: /sign msg red |
| 00:02.36 | Arrowmaster` | that didnt do anything |
| 00:05.05 | bleeter | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEod4B95Jq8 |
| 00:09.20 | foxlit | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/08/sudoku1_01.jpg |
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| 00:10.57 | devZero | hmmm... Shouldn't I be able to run DevTools_Dump(var) in the client now without actually have DevTools installed? |
| 00:11.05 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 00:11.11 | foxlit | If it's global. |
| 00:11.36 | devZero | ah, wierd thing... Works now. |
| 00:11.47 | devZero | I have an error stating it's nil... then I try again, and it works :/ |
| 00:11.52 | devZero | cut and paste... |
| 00:11.54 | devZero | odd |
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| 00:13.22 | Cloudwolf | is any one else having issues connecting to wow? |
| 00:15.03 | mikma | sure, in 2h~ |
| 00:15.13 | Cloudwolf | ???.... |
| 00:15.58 | Arrowmaster | devZero: thats because its not loaded until Blizzard_DebugTools is loaded, which gets loaded whenever an error occurs |
| 00:18.08 | mikma | cloudwolf: eu maintenance |
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| 00:18.37 | Cloudwolf_ | internet restart fixed :D |
| 00:24.40 | foxlit | hey, a wowmatrix thread. |
| 00:25.35 | foxlit | lame. resurrected by a level 1 blood elf. |
| 00:26.02 | Lopeppeppy | Got bored while everyone was away for blizcon |
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| 00:45.35 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/because-pvp-in-produce-is-teh-suxxorz/778 |
| 00:49.08 | Yssaril | what do you do when a user comes up with an error that should be impossible? ie blizzard api returning the wrong value? |
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| 00:52.33 | kd3 | wonder at what kind of hand the fates dealt that player? |
| 00:53.21 | A-KO | anyone else having weird raid id issues? |
| 00:56.17 | Lopeppeppy | Define "weird" ? |
| 00:56.35 | jaxdahl | c-stores have meat departments? |
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| 00:57.35 | Shirik | hi Lopeppeppy1 |
| 00:57.39 | Shirik | and Lopeppeppy! |
| 00:58.11 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi |
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| 00:58.50 | Legorol | cloning yourself again Peppy dear? |
| 00:59.05 | Legorol | it's not good for your skin you know, i suggest moderation |
| 01:00.36 | Lopeppeppy | Moderation is for druids! I'm a rogue! |
| 01:00.40 | Lopeppeppy | ... at least for a little while longer. :) |
| 01:05.32 | Shirik | oh Lopeppeppy likes to do it in the dark |
| 01:06.00 | Lopeppeppy | No, I have little sparkly lights. |
| 01:06.48 | Lukian | sounds like they improved the fel reaver :D |
| 01:07.00 | batrick | (If anyone wants a HoN (Heroes of Newerth) Beta key PM me) |
| 01:07.20 | Adys | if anyone wants 15, pm me |
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| 01:11.25 | bleeter | hah boomkin name 'fatowlbert' |
| 01:21.41 | Lopeppeppy | kiss kiss bye bye! |
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| 01:32.15 | JunkHead-Work | Helloooo |
| 01:32.54 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/why-skynet-annihilated-mankind-vol-1/1514 |
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| 01:34.58 | Adys | I love bgs at night |
| 01:35.06 | Adys | 7th IoC win in a row |
| 01:35.41 | kd3 | har |
| 01:36.08 | Cloudwolf_ | why the hell does youtube run so slowly these days... |
| 01:38.35 | JunkHead-Work | Hey guys, I got a UI question. |
| 01:38.55 | JunkHead-Work | What could be the cause of not being able to see LFG channel? |
| 01:39.05 | kd3 | not being in LFG? |
| 01:39.06 | JunkHead-Work | The only chat related addon I use is Prat. |
| 01:39.15 | JunkHead-Work | Nope, I mean being in it, but not seeing anything. |
| 01:39.29 | kd3 | make sure it's enabled in your channel filters |
| 01:39.33 | JunkHead-Work | I can be in the lFG system, looking for a specific instance, and never see lfg chat. |
| 01:39.48 | Adys | maybe you left it? |
| 01:39.50 | JunkHead-Work | Hmm.. it worked until a few days ago. |
| 01:39.55 | JunkHead-Work | Not that I know of no. |
| 01:40.07 | JunkHead-Work | But I have noticed my channle #'s change a couple of times. |
| 01:40.14 | JunkHead-Work | Is that just a random bug or something? |
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| 01:53.40 | bleeter | lolol "There's still a problem on my server where people in 10 and 25man ToC are killing bosses and they are instantly resetting and dropping loot every time. Known issue?" |
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| 02:00.15 | alestane | I can finally see my share properly. I can mount it over a user folder and log into that user with the expected effect. What I have NOT been able to do is to get it to automount properly at startup. |
| 02:00.47 | Yssaril | arggggg i hate idiot's jsut spent 2 days trying to figure out an error jsut to find out some other addon is replacing the blizzard function and returning the wrong stuff /sigh |
| 02:10.03 | Wobin | http://notalwaysright.com/on-the-straight-and-narrow-minded/2389 |
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| 02:12.39 | AnduinLothar | is there a wow startswith? |
| 02:14.19 | Wobin | no, but you can use substring |
| 02:14.26 | AnduinLothar | yeah... lame |
| 02:14.37 | Cloudwolf_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQcwY22DA4k (sorry i had to link its a pretty good machinima |
| 02:14.41 | Wobin | aside from the fact that startswith is basically string.sub anyway? |
| 02:15.36 | AnduinLothar | lame |
| 02:15.45 | Adys | Cloudwolf_: you're going to hell |
| 02:15.51 | Adys | never, ever link anything in this channel again |
| 02:15.59 | Adys | we ban anything starting with http |
| 02:16.13 | Cloudwolf_ | Ok..... then then i shoulda been banned about a month ago |
| 02:16.28 | ScytheBlade1 | things can be arranged! |
| 02:16.28 | Adys | what the hell! this isn't your first offense? |
| 02:16.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: poke |
| 02:16.35 | Adys | Come on someone get him out of here. |
| 02:16.38 | Shirik | ? |
| 02:16.48 | ScytheBlade1 | You said we'd talk later! |
| 02:16.51 | ScytheBlade1 | It is later! |
| 02:16.54 | Shirik | so let's talk! |
| 02:16.57 | Adys | have a date |
| 02:17.03 | Relcuse | AnduinLothar: :/ string.sub(haystack, 1, string.len(needle)) == needle |
| 02:17.05 | ScytheBlade1 | a date... with git |
| 02:17.13 | AnduinLothar | LAME i say |
| 02:17.15 | Cloudwolf_ | adys you would also need to ban a few other people :P |
| 02:17.21 | Adys | I wouldnt |
| 02:17.24 | Adys | Shirik would |
| 02:17.30 | Adys | I'm not +o here |
| 02:17.34 | Adys | cant abuse anything =/ |
| 02:17.38 | Adys | gives Cairenn|afk a mean look |
| 02:18.31 | Adys | Cloudwolf_: what it is with the horrible camera movement |
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| 02:18.48 | Adys | uhgh |
| 02:19.10 | Adys | gives me a headache watching it :/ |
| 02:19.18 | bleeter | mohr sounds really bummed out that the wow forums burned him so hard ... he clearly dunno the forums well poor guy :( |
| 02:19.28 | Adys | bleeter: wut |
| 02:19.47 | bleeter | Adys: couple of his tweets are about forum haters, not doing blizzcon next year 'coz of them |
| 02:19.58 | Adys | link, |
| 02:20.00 | Adys | ? |
| 02:20.15 | bleeter | https://twitter.com/jaymohr37 |
| 02:20.17 | JunkHead-Work | You follow Jay Mohr's Twitter? |
| 02:20.36 | bleeter | JunkHead-Work: picked it up for #blizzcon, sure :P |
| 02:20.47 | JunkHead-Work | Okie dokie. |
| 02:22.59 | Wobin | http://beta.heroesofnewerth.com/H829BYwa3z/facebook.php |
| 02:23.07 | Wobin | more beta keys if anyone wants |
| 02:23.14 | Adys | lol |
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| 02:23.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ... huh |
| 02:23.25 | Wobin | Times running out! =P |
| 02:23.30 | Wobin | only 45k left =P |
| 02:23.32 | bleeter | "I think I'll pass on hosting blizzcon next year. the forums are stacked against me. I was pandering, racist, sexist and not funny. enjoy it." |
| 02:23.34 | Cloudwolf_ | OMG his tweet form 27 minutes ago exactly my thought! |
| 02:23.43 | Cloudwolf_ | EXACTLY what i think aobut the word palindrome.... |
| 02:23.44 | ScytheBlade1 | An old WoW friend is offering to pay a WoW subscription for no real reason |
| 02:23.58 | Wobin | bleeter: What kind of fool would read the forums for a balanced critique of his work? |
| 02:24.08 | bleeter | Cloudwolf_: he has a couple of amusing quips on his tweets, is why I'm thinking I might keep him post-#blizzcon |
| 02:24.15 | bleeter | afaik we don't get his shows in .au |
| 02:24.15 | Adys | Cloudwolf_: palindrome not being a palindrome is the oldest thing on earth |
| 02:24.28 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:24.54 | Yssaril | anyone know what causes the combat log to stop? i don't receive any combat log messages (filtered or not) |
| 02:24.56 | Ackis | Wobin: gf and I have HoN pre-ordered |
| 02:25.02 | Adys | Yssaril: you got DC'd |
| 02:25.13 | Wobin | Ackis: Not really my sort of game =) |
| 02:25.18 | Cloudwolf_ | Well lisp is an evil word becuase s's and p's are hard for people with lisps to pronounce so they have to try and say waht they have issues with when saying they have those issues |
| 02:25.29 | Yssaril | Adys: not as far as i can tell still plays fine |
| 02:26.36 | Ackis | what's an example when GetSubZoneText doesn't match GetMinimapZoneText ? |
| 02:26.50 | Adys | Stormwind |
| 02:26.52 | Adys | Stormwind City |
| 02:27.01 | Adys | Stockades, Stormwind Stockades |
| 02:27.07 | Adys | The Stockades |
| 02:27.14 | Adys | fuck they really need to fix this shit. |
| 02:27.36 | Ackis | Adys: what would the GetZoneText for those places be? (I'm not ally so can't test) |
| 02:27.49 | bleeter | I think Adys has them all covered |
| 02:27.58 | Adys | one is the stockades, one is stormwind stockades |
| 02:28.00 | Kraps | alt-F4 still gets people |
| 02:28.20 | Ackis | ahh Adys so GetZoneText will match one of GetSubZoneText or GetMinimapZoneText |
| 02:29.12 | bleeter | Adys: bwhahaha ;) |
| 02:29.12 | Adys | oh ffs. |
| 02:29.16 | Ackis | and then there's GetRealZoneText as well... nice |
| 02:29.27 | Adys | Ackis: theres GetRealSubZoneText too |
| 02:29.33 | Ackis | lol |
| 02:29.33 | Adys | and GetRealMinimapSubZoneText |
| 02:29.42 | Yssaril | Ackis: what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 02:29.42 | Legorol | <3 what a nice CC raid for me today.. Justicebringer, boots, trophy for me in one run. I ended up passing on trinket out of guilt or i could've gotten that too ^^ |
| 02:29.58 | Ackis | Yssaril: just tyring to debug IHML a bit |
| 02:30.01 | Adys | and GetRealMinimapSubZoneSubText |
| 02:30.02 | Adys | and .. |
| 02:30.08 | Ackis | @project IHML |
| 02:30.11 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ihml/. IHML - I Have Macro Lol!. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Snago (Author). Updated: 2 hours ago. Tickets: 1/16 |
| 02:30.31 | Adys | what an annoying image tooltip |
| 02:30.38 | Legorol | has anyone else here tried Twin Val'kyr yet and got the impression it's too easy? |
| 02:30.49 | kd3 | it's... the normal mode encounter? |
| 02:30.52 | kd3 | of course? |
| 02:31.00 | Legorol | my guild, which is by no means a great guild, two-shot it with great ease |
| 02:31.04 | Adys | Legorol: the exact second I open mmoc to see Update - Val'kyr Twins Bug Fixes |
| 02:31.44 | Legorol | the only reason why we didn't one-shot it is that i didn't think it was so easy so didn't do full tactics before first pull and we did a "let's just show the fight to those who didn't bother reading up" pull first |
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| 02:32.42 | Legorol | Adys: wut? |
| 02:32.44 | Stanzilla | Legorol: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/12/19378796625-valkyr-twins-bug-fixes.html :P |
| 02:32.59 | Stanzilla | I just read it, too |
| 02:33.00 | Legorol | oooh |
| 02:33.08 | Legorol | that'd explain why we didn't get any Surges :D |
| 02:33.19 | Legorol | our healers were like "we could do this with four, there's no damage in the fight" |
| 02:33.54 | Legorol | and that explains how some people thought they managed to outrange the Vortex without changing colour |
| 02:34.00 | Legorol | they probably just ate it and got healed up |
| 02:34.13 | Ackis | it's raining so hard here you can't see more than about 2 metres in front of you |
| 02:34.28 | Legorol | it's nice to see a boss getting buffed for once immediately |
| 02:34.34 | Legorol | instead of nerfed |
| 02:35.11 | Legorol | I'm not sure the increased spawn rate is appropriate though |
| 02:36.27 | Yssaril | Ackis: GetRealZoneText() is the only "Real" function you need to worry about (don't think any others exist) |
| 02:36.33 | Cloudwolf_ | You have to be 85. Our plan is to tie it to Archaeology, but that could change. While fishing can be challenging to max out, cooking isn't all that hard and first aid is pretty easy. tobad ive maxed fishing and not cooking or firstaid.... |
| 02:37.04 | Yssaril | first aid is a joke at 80 |
| 02:37.11 | Ackis | Yssaril: sometimes it's nice to differentiate between the zone and a specific area though? I'm trying subzone off the start and zone as a backup |
| 02:37.48 | Yssaril | Ackis: true i mean don't use GetZoneText ever :P always use GetRealZoneText :) |
| 02:37.58 | Ackis | ahh |
| 02:38.24 | Ackis | !api getrealsubzonetext |
| 02:38.24 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'getrealsubzonetext'. |
| 02:38.30 | Yssaril | they return the same info unless you are in an instance then GetZoneText can return differnt things |
| 02:38.46 | Yssaril | Ackis: there is no other GetReal function |
| 02:38.52 | Ackis | just was making sure |
| 02:39.37 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 02:41.33 | Ackis | does flyable work in dalaran/wintergrasp now? |
| 02:41.51 | Yssaril | wrote my own loot addon a while back (tracks what mobs drop) the and using GetRealZoneText fixed alot of problems for instances :) |
| 02:42.53 | Yssaril | Ackis: flyable is still bugged on live as far as i can tell (at least if you don't have coldweather flying is buggy as hell) |
| 02:43.18 | Ackis | bleh |
| 02:43.35 | Yssaril | Ackis: you should use Squire or Mounted they generate macros that change dynamicly for you |
| 02:43.43 | Yssaril | @project Squire |
| 02:43.44 | Repo | Yssaril: http://www.wowace.com/addons/squire/. Squire. Game: WoW. Adirelle (Manager/Author). Updated: 6 hours ago. Tickets: 2/32 |
| 02:43.48 | Ackis | didn't want to reload wow ;) |
| 02:43.50 | Ackis | lol |
| 02:43.50 | Yssaril | @project Mounted |
| 02:43.52 | Repo | Yssaril: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mounted/. Mounted. Game: WoW. yssaril (Manager/Author). Updated: 21 hours ago |
| 02:43.55 | Yssaril | :P |
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| 02:45.11 | Cloudwolf_ | Fan of Knives now causes 105% weapon damage with daggers (down from 150%) and 70% weapon damage with all other weapons. (Down from 100%) uhhh... epicly huge nerf.... |
| 02:45.47 | Dagmar | Now the question is will it do osmething to make rogues aware they're pulling everything nearby with it |
| 02:46.18 | Dagmar | I'm a little bitter from a pug last night where that was one of the ways the two rogues kept wiping us |
| 02:46.21 | Yssaril | imo they should make FoK into a aoe taunt for jsut one patch :P |
| 02:46.24 | Cloudwolf_ | well i use it for running low level instances so i can clear quickly... |
| 02:46.40 | Cloudwolf_ | realy its nto that hard to use |
| 02:46.43 | Cloudwolf_ | tricks of the trade on the tank |
| 02:46.47 | Cloudwolf_ | fan of knives like a dumbass |
| 02:46.49 | Dagmar | Yssaril: I like that idea |
| 02:46.54 | Stanzilla | Ackis: /run if IsMounted() then Dismount() return end local m if not IsFlyableArea() or (GetWintergraspWaitTime()==nil and GetZoneText()=="Wintergrasp") or IsSwimming() then m=(1) else m=(3) end CallCompanion("MOUNT",m) |
| 02:46.56 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 02:46.57 | Cloudwolf_ | or you could be a normal rogue and you know actualy hit only 1 target? |
| 02:47.15 | Dagmar | Cloudwolf_: We wiped on *Paletress trash* last night because of careless use of that |
| 02:47.18 | kd3 | ... what is that necessary? |
| 02:47.30 | Cloudwolf_ | lol the trash!? lolwhut... |
| 02:47.30 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:47.36 | Stanzilla | Ackis: and this without cold weather flying /run if IsMounted() and not IsFlying() then Dismount() return end local t if (GetCurrentMapContinent()==3) then t={2} else t={1,4} end CallCompanion("MOUNT",t[random(#t)]) |
| 02:47.43 | Dagmar | THey were too busy jumpin' around (why?!?!) to pay attention to where they triggerd FoK |
| 02:47.52 | Ackis | ... |
| 02:48.06 | Dagmar | It also didn't help that one of them had *some* self control, and the other had *none* |
| 02:48.07 | Ackis | why not: /userandom [nomounted, flyable] Red Dragonhawk;Blue Proto-Drake [nomounted, noflyable] Swift Spectral Tiger ? |
| 02:48.23 | Dagmar | Hey, greast, you can do 3900 DPS as a rogue |
| 02:48.26 | Dagmar | THe tank can't |
| 02:48.33 | Stanzilla | dunno :( |
| 02:49.06 | Cloudwolf_ | lol again i dont understand fan of knives for heroics/raids |
| 02:49.08 | Dagmar | THe guy didn't get the hint |
| 02:49.17 | Cloudwolf_ | i understand it for stealth detection (pvp) and for running low levle instances |
| 02:49.24 | Dagmar | Well, you'd use that 6-second rogue misdirect and then spam FoK |
| 02:49.35 | Dagmar | ...but it deosnt' work so well when you pull a second group doing it |
| 02:50.09 | Cloudwolf_ | ah true... |
| 02:50.39 | Dagmar | Yeah things get significantly hairier when there's two bloody healers dropping chalice of whatever |
| 02:50.50 | Dagmar | I kin only shoot so fast! |
| 02:50.50 | Cloudwolf_ | gota say rogues shouldn't have gotten the fan of knives (i mean i love it for running people makes me effective as a run giver) but it turned into a LOL im surrounded look i can hit all of you for 2k dmg per swing! |
| 02:51.30 | Dagmar | I need to hack up NotesUNeed so if I wind up grouped with someone I've marked with "Avoid" it'll put a big exclamation mark on their unit frame |
| 02:52.05 | Dagmar | I don't care that the dude was all geared out from Ulduar. He couldn't watch his threat, ergo he sucks |
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| 02:53.15 | Cloudwolf_ | again makes me want to make my notepad addon unfroutantly that would reuqire me figuring out how to actively scale a frame by tracking mouse movement |
| 02:53.20 | Cloudwolf_ | and figure out how to position a frame |
| 02:53.24 | Cloudwolf_ | by mouse dragging |
| 02:53.43 | Cloudwolf_ | and starting it over from scratch cus i lost all my progress on it damned hard drive frying! |
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| 03:14.27 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1! |
| 03:15.01 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 :( |
| 03:19.39 | Wobin | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/ominous_music_heard_throughout_u |
| 03:23.21 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 03:28.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: what? |
| 03:32.06 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1, let's talk! |
| 03:32.15 | ScytheBlade1 | wat |
| 03:32.30 | Shirik | what were we talking about earlier? |
| 03:32.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I had just fixed your git, when you left to a lab |
| 03:33.35 | ScytheBlade1 | 16:51 <Shirik> ok I have to go to a lab |
| 03:33.36 | ScytheBlade1 | 16:51 <Shirik> we'll talk later |
| 03:33.39 | ScytheBlade1 | so you tell me! |
| 03:34.30 | Dagmar | I think he was threatening you |
| 03:34.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Possible |
| 03:35.27 | Shirik | I dunno |
| 03:35.32 | Shirik | did we need to DO anything? |
| 03:35.40 | Dagmar | Time to start planning for MOnday night trial pugs |
| 03:35.49 | Dagmar | I think I've beaten all but one piece of loot out of HToC |
| 03:36.28 | Dagmar | I gotta remember to put personal engagements in my Google calendar |
| 03:36.47 | Dagmar | THe guildmaster set up a 10-man run for Friday. I'm taking that day off, but I'm going to see INfected Mushroom |
| 03:37.08 | Dagmar | If he'd have just set it for Saturday... |
| 03:39.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't believe so |
| 03:50.58 | bleeter | nice work if you could get it lol http://www.blizzard.com/us/jobopp/battlenet-designer-marketplace.html |
| 03:51.42 | bleeter | er |
| 03:51.52 | Kraps | wtb more instance servers, pst with price |
| 03:52.17 | kd3 | oh joy. building ecommerce sites. fun |
| 03:53.01 | Iriel | That IS fun! |
| 03:53.28 | bleeter | I meant to link THIS one http://www.blizzard.com/us/jobopp/battlenet-designer-social.html |
| 03:53.49 | ScytheBlade1 | "Ability to perform well under tight deadlines" |
| 03:53.59 | bleeter | Iriel: ecommerce sites is so 20th century :P |
| 03:54.03 | kd3 | blizzard? |
| 03:54.04 | kd3 | deadlines? |
| 03:54.04 | bleeter | s/is/are/ |
| 03:54.06 | kd3 | wtf |
| 03:54.45 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: maybe they're hoping to improve |
| 03:55.31 | bleeter | I think the social designer would be a lot more fun |
| 04:00.41 | ScytheBlade1 | sleep time |
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| 04:21.27 | Shadowed | ~addonkit |
| 04:21.28 | purl | Located at http://tinyurl.com/addonkit the addonkit is "The World of Warcraft User Interface Customization tool that allows users to tweak and customize the User Interface." |
| 04:22.03 | Shadowed | huh, the mac link is broken :< |
| 04:25.51 | AnduinLothar | ChatBar finally got updated, lulz |
| 04:26.22 | AnduinLothar | there I have 1 addon updated for 30200 |
| 04:26.37 | AnduinLothar | now i only feel like mostly a slacker |
| 04:27.58 | AnduinLothar | for some reason that one has the most downloads tho |
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| 04:39.17 | Adys | http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/c/c7/Deathwing_Cataclysm.jpg |
| 04:39.21 | Adys | who's the artist? |
| 04:39.35 | Adys | someone cropped out the sig.. great idea |
| 04:43.06 | Yssaril | Adys: blizzard cropped it if it was ever on there http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/_images/artwork/ss38_hires.jpg |
| 04:43.19 | Adys | yeah I meant soemone from blizz |
| 04:43.31 | _rane | chris metzen |
| 04:43.39 | Adys | no thats not metzen |
| 04:43.41 | Adys | definitely not |
| 04:44.17 | Adys | i thought it was samwise but a lot of people are saying its rane |
| 04:45.32 | _rane | check middle on the right side |
| 04:45.57 | _rane | could that mean something :p |
| 04:46.00 | Adys | what about it? |
| 04:46.37 | Adys | bleeter, kd3 ping |
| 04:46.53 | kd3 | pong |
| 04:47.03 | Adys | chrome://downloads/home/adys/downloads/announce_trailer_en_us.exe can one of you run that and tell me if it crashes wine after like 30 sec? |
| 04:47.05 | Adys | er |
| 04:47.07 | Adys | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/_files/announce_trailer_en_us.exe |
| 04:47.59 | Arrowmaster` | why would i want to test if wine crashes, i just finally got mirc working right in wine |
| 04:48.04 | kd3 | 'this download is not authorized.' |
| 04:48.07 | Adys | wtf diaf |
| 04:48.14 | Adys | kd3: yeah, but wait a few secs |
| 04:48.20 | kd3 | waits some more |
| 04:48.23 | Arrowmaster` | run it through wowtorrentex |
| 04:48.27 | Adys | fixme:ole:CoGetClassObject CLSCTX_REMOTE_SERVER not supported |
| 04:48.27 | Adys | err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {e2085f28-feb7-404a-b8e7-e659bdeaaa02} could be created for context 0x17 |
| 04:48.27 | Adys | err:seh:setup_exception_record stack overflow 1376 bytes in thread 0025 eip 7bc3c84e esp 00240dd0 stack 0x240000-0x241000-0x340000 |
| 04:49.34 | kd3 | nope |
| 04:49.37 | kd3 | still doing fine now |
| 04:49.38 | Adys | hm weird |
| 04:49.41 | Adys | it only crashed once here |
| 04:50.17 | Adys | btw can someone else test it on windows? |
| 04:50.21 | Adys | download isnt authorized thing |
| 04:51.03 | Adys | (man this trailer is full of amazing) |
| 04:51.12 | Adys | (unlike the wotlk weak one O_o) |
| 04:51.51 | Dashkal | Finally took the plunge and merged my warcraft into battle.net. I wants beta keys om nom nom |
| 04:53.34 | Adys | huh |
| 04:53.35 | Adys | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/_images/artwork/ss21_hires.jpg |
| 04:53.38 | Adys | whats that sig? |
| 04:55.38 | kd3 | J Kunz? |
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| 04:56.39 | Sixen | rawr |
| 04:56.43 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 04:57.22 | Sixen | =] |
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| 05:02.30 | Adys | "I don't really know the signs of having a keylogger... but i haven't downloaded any addons in months" |
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| 05:07.13 | Arrowmaster | so ive got like 40 different windows open in irssi, good thing im only using it as a proxy |
| 05:10.26 | Wobin | Adys: "I have bought a lot of gold, however, and someone offered me a spectral tiger mount! I must be lucky!" |
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| 05:54.51 | devZero | stupid question... Would local var = UnitCreatureFamily(target) or ""; be valid syntax in Lua? |
| 05:56.03 | devZero | I'd test it myself, but I don't have a parser available where I'm at. |
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| 05:57.04 | devZero | nvm, got my question aswered |
| 05:57.09 | devZero | answered even |
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| 06:11.11 | leizeQ | morning |
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| 06:30.26 | Thunder_Child | http://kotaku.com/5345562/this-is-what-a-gundam-wedding-looks-like *sigh* |
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| 06:34.05 | NightHawkTheSan1 | what, jealous? :P |
| 06:34.44 | Thunder_Child | yes, thats it..... |
| 06:38.08 | Thunder_Child | hmm....i always thought that jovovich was rather hot, but that picture on the left freaks me out http://kotaku.com/5344670/resident-evil-movie-director-marries-resident-evil-actress |
| 06:39.17 | NightHawkTheSan1 | why does it freak yoiu out? |
| 06:39.30 | Arrowmaster | "Anderson is best known for turning video games like Mortal Kombat and Dead or Alive into feature films. Jovovich is best known for being really pretty." |
| 06:39.43 | Arrowmaster | Dead or Alive movie, so bad yet so good at the same time..... |
| 06:39.51 | NightHawkTheSan1 | granted, it freaks -me- out because in that photo she looks like someone i once knew. |
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| 06:50.18 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSan1, because she is freaky looking, and not at all like usual |
| 06:51.49 | devZero | meh, I wish there was a UnitIsVendor type API |
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| 07:32.47 | Wobin | http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/wacky-candy/c399/?cpg=cj |
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| 07:35.27 | Nechckn | thinkgeek always has some totally awesome stuff |
| 07:35.53 | Nechckn | oftentimes a bit overpriced, but, at least for me, the delivery is nearly instant- and they are pretty reliable |
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| 07:58.55 | zenzelezz | "Mozilla's Security team has disclosed a very interesting piece of research which suggests people refused to upgrade to Firefox 3 because they were afraid the browser would expose their porn collection." |
| 07:59.33 | Nechckn | wow... |
| 07:59.52 | zenzelezz | it's basically the "awesome bar" |
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| 08:24.55 | Adys | ... DOH |
| 08:25.02 | Adys | rogues could wear shields in beta |
| 08:25.09 | Adys | i totally dismissed that |
| 08:25.14 | Adys | > This actually does make a little sense now. I've always wondered why all the starting zones and even a lot of armor vendors in cities sell generic white shields in two flavors, a small one and a large one, but with identical armor/block. I always had a sneaking suspicion that either rogues or hunters at one point could use "small shields" (bucklers) if they wanted to. |
| 08:25.28 | Adys | I think I made the biggest "woah." face I ever did |
| 08:25.40 | Fisker | remember reading about it a long time ago |
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| 08:27.05 | mikma | tekkub: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/camel_balls.jpg |
| 08:27.17 | Adys | nom |
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| 10:16.56 | zenzelezz | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/49487/purified-onyxia-blood-talisman/ -- so every stat is buffed except the fire resistance... fair enough, but it sounds odd |
| 10:17.53 | nevcairiel | I would see that in a positive light and just assume that fire resistance isnt crucial =P |
| 10:19.05 | zenzelezz | yeah, but it sounds weird given that the end boss in the new expansion is a molten dragon |
| 10:19.19 | zenzelezz | but as you say, resistance fights have been a less frequent thing lately |
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| 11:23.37 | Cruciformer | morning all |
| 11:23.49 | zenzelezz | heya |
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| 12:10.42 | haste | stabs Fisker. |
| 12:10.52 | haste | You killed it! Now I'll avenge it by killing you! |
| 12:11.34 | Cruciformer | ... and thus starts the chain reaction that wipes out the human race |
| 12:11.51 | wsoul | Any JC here=? |
| 12:12.37 | wsoul | hmm, 10 to all stats are better than having 10 strength 15 stamina or any other recipe... |
| 12:12.59 | haste | also much more expensive |
| 12:13.03 | wsoul | and 10 to all stats goes to def/dod/parry/str etc right? |
| 12:13.10 | wsoul | will i can buy the recipe |
| 12:13.20 | wsoul | oh right... never cared about gold ;) |
| 12:13.31 | haste | ten stats actually gives you ten stats |
| 12:13.36 | wsoul | wouldn't buythat dalas ring over 7000g iirc |
| 12:13.48 | wsoul | i know but to all right? |
| 12:13.49 | haste | so if the stats give def/dodge/etc you gain it |
| 12:14.01 | haste | no |
| 12:14.18 | wsoul | i mean, it gives 10+ to def/dod/str/stam and everything else or am i misunderstsnding it |
| 12:14.29 | haste | also, the dalaran ring is 8800g if you are exalted and don't have any |
| 12:14.40 | wsoul | yeah exalted =) |
| 12:14.44 | haste | it only gives +10 to all base stats |
| 12:15.15 | wsoul | including mele/defenses etc |
| 12:15.19 | wsoul | melee |
| 12:15.25 | haste | no |
| 12:15.28 | wsoul | ohh |
| 12:15.38 | wsoul | i see |
| 12:15.39 | haste | by your logic it would give 10 dodge, 10 crit etc |
| 12:15.52 | haste | which would be... insane :p |
| 12:15.53 | wsoul | yeah wanted to be sure before i get the recipe |
| 12:15.57 | wsoul | haha |
| 12:16.18 | haste | it's still one of the best chest enchants for most classes |
| 12:16.26 | wsoul | got most tanking recipes, and few others for sp, str i think and few more |
| 12:16.33 | wsoul | hmm |
| 12:16.41 | haste | and it only costs like 10 shards |
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| 12:16.43 | wsoul | it's a cut actually |
| 12:16.51 | wsoul | nightmare tear |
| 12:16.53 | wsoul | epic one |
| 12:17.02 | wsoul | a jc can make it |
| 12:17.16 | wsoul | and matches any socket |
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| 12:17.26 | wsoul | 1 dragon's eye 5 infinite dust |
| 12:17.29 | wsoul | are the mats |
| 12:17.50 | wsoul | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=49112#comments |
| 12:20.39 | haste | oh, I was thinking of the enchant only |
| 12:21.00 | wsoul | figured |
| 12:21.10 | wsoul | but same thing, only for base stat |
| 12:21.20 | wsoul | pointless for me to get it now.... |
| 12:26.57 | zenzelezz | if the dust is infinite... why do you need multiple? |
| 12:27.27 | Cruciformer | its only defined for very small values of "infinite" :) |
| 12:28.48 | Elkano | Infinite Dust - Use: Combines two into one. |
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| 12:42.27 | zenzelezz | MINE! |
| 12:42.30 | zenzelezz | runs off with Lopeppeppy |
| 12:42.47 | Lopeppeppy | Wheee! |
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| 13:14.56 | Cruciformer | grrrrrrrrrr I wish curse would fix this stupid tags bug already. Highly frustrating for new mods. |
| 13:16.03 | zenzelezz | what bug is that? |
| 13:16.13 | Cruciformer | you can't set tags for a new addon |
| 13:16.34 | Cruciformer | so unless someone knows your mod by name theres no way to search for it |
| 13:18.07 | Lopeppeppy | Tried it on different browsers? |
| 13:18.18 | Cruciformer | yes ma'am |
| 13:18.28 | Cruciformer | ackis confirmed the bug too |
| 13:18.52 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, that stinks. But if it's been reported, they're workin' on it. Always something when you come back from a con. |
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| 13:22.44 | Cruciformer | i can only hope so. they had a similar issue a while back and it took them months to fix it judging from the forum posts |
| 13:23.19 | Lopeppeppy | That's never a good way to judge things. :) |
| 13:23.33 | Cruciformer | :) |
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| 13:24.55 | alestane | Yay, rebooting some more. |
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| 13:35.27 | Mikk | Cruciformer: try this one on for size then... http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/finklestein.aspx |
| 13:35.39 | Mikk | it's been tagged "doesnt", "work" for god knows how long |
| 13:35.46 | Mikk | i don't even know which asshole did it |
| 13:35.48 | Mikk | and i can't edit it |
| 13:35.50 | Mikk | just get errors |
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| 13:39.06 | Cruciformer | :( |
| 13:40.19 | Cruciformer | i think its time to put my mod on wowinterface |
| 13:40.48 | Wobin | I also dislike how it's almost impossible to easily 'login' to the main curse site |
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| 14:02.50 | alestane | Now. Now it works. I have ZERO idea what I did differently this time except that there may have been a slight issue with line endings. |
| 14:02.57 | alestane | Have to reboot and try this again. |
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| 14:04.48 | SinusPi | Hmm. Note Slouken here, http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/8202271194-3-0-changes-concise-list.html#78 - I cannot get this to work; that extra parameter doesn't work at all. Confirm? Deny? |
| 14:05.25 | Lopeppeppy | Can you post your code in a pastey so people can see how you're using it? |
| 14:08.30 | SinusPi | texture:SetTexture("somefile.tga",true) texture:SetTexCoord(0,3,0,3) |
| 14:08.31 | SinusPi | presto |
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| 14:09.07 | SinusPi | if that 'true' parameter worked, the texture would've tiled - instead it only shows blank when texcoords get out of the 0-1 range. |
| 14:11.30 | SinusPi | ... odd, now it does work. What the. |
| 14:12.12 | SinusPi | ... and won't go back into non-tile mode, even though I've changed the true into false... How peculiar. |
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| 14:12.43 | Seerah | do you still have the 3's in texcoord? |
| 14:12.46 | SinusPi | Ah-ha. It requires that the texture is CLEARED before changing that mode. Interesting. |
| 14:12.54 | Seerah | ah |
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| 14:13.36 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 14:13.42 | Lopeppeppy | heyo |
| 14:14.02 | alestane | Yeah. It works now and I have no idea why. |
| 14:14.08 | alestane | But hey, it works! |
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| 14:18.15 | Lopeppeppy | There, I fixed it! :) |
| 14:18.47 | alestane | Um, thank you so much? |
| 14:20.30 | Lopeppeppy | You're quite welcome. Feel free to consult me about these vague hardware/software issues at any point in the future. |
| 14:21.05 | Cruciformer | ok wowinterface needs ... a new interface. How on earth do I start a project? |
| 14:21.22 | Cruciformer | or upload an addon etc |
| 14:21.36 | alestane | Are you logged in? |
| 14:21.41 | Cruciformer | I am |
| 14:21.49 | alestane | Are you in the addons section? |
| 14:21.58 | Cruciformer | I am |
| 14:22.19 | alestane | Is there a button along the top labeled "My Addons" or "Upload and Update"? |
| 14:22.56 | Cruciformer | there is |
| 14:23.12 | Seerah | then there :) |
| 14:23.30 | Cruciformer | :) ty |
| 14:24.34 | Cruciformer | what section should I upload a suicide kings thing to? Doesn't seem to be a good fit |
| 14:24.46 | Seerah | raid mods |
| 14:25.07 | Cruciformer | thats unbder "clas specific" ... what is class specific about a raid mod? |
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| 14:25.28 | foxlit | The dropdown does not reflect the tree structure properly |
| 14:26.08 | Seerah | see the -- for classes but only one - for raid mods |
| 14:26.42 | Cruciformer | Seerah: Not exactly the most intuitive interface (pardons if you are responsible) |
| 14:26.55 | Seerah | I'm not. but it's not something that can really be fixed currently |
| 14:27.20 | Seerah | there's more info about it in the site forum somewhere.... |
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| 14:34.59 | alestane | Happy happy warlock. |
| 14:35.17 | Lopeppeppy | Fixed it more? |
| 14:35.36 | alestane | Just reveling in the fixedness. |
| 14:35.44 | kneeki | What was fixed? |
| 14:35.54 | Lopeppeppy | I was gonna ask that. :) |
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| 14:37.36 | alestane | I've been migrating to a new computer, and due to hard drive constraints I've been trying to set up the old user folders to be shared onto the new machine via NFS. |
| 14:37.47 | alestane | It's taken me two days to make auto-mount work. |
| 14:38.09 | Lopeppeppy | *bad peppy* |
| 14:38.21 | zenzelezz | "Automountic" |
| 14:39.21 | Thunder_Child | alestane, i did not know that warlocks share in your mounting success. |
| 14:39.36 | Cruciformer | any idea how I go about getting just a few words inside a sentence to be monospaces on teh wowinterface description editor thingy? |
| 14:39.45 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Yes, I have a friend who finds the "man mount" command endlessly amusing, |
| 14:40.05 | Lopeppeppy | I will be good, i will be good, iwillbegood. |
| 14:40.46 | Thunder_Child | lies |
| 14:40.51 | Lopeppeppy | I know, but I do try. |
| 14:41.32 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: The key here lies in the fact that "good" is open to interpretation. |
| 14:41.40 | Lopeppeppy | Thank the stars. |
| 14:42.18 | alestane | http://www.twolumps.net/d/20090826.html |
| 14:42.29 | Wobin | <3 twolumps |
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| 14:43.26 | Wobin | twolumps has cemented references to 'gooshy food' as being the ultimate webcomic injoke... |
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| 14:43.40 | Lopeppeppy | One of the inspiration cats passed away recently, RIP kitty. |
| 14:43.47 | Wobin | yeah =( |
| 14:44.02 | alestane | Sounded like kitty metabolic syndrome or something similar. |
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| 14:44.38 | Lopeppeppy | I gave my kitties extra treats that day. |
| 14:44.40 | Lopeppeppy | Kitties. |
| 14:44.45 | Lopeppeppy | I have two now. I'm getting used to that. |
| 14:45.16 | alestane | How is Rosie-cat? Still locked up? |
| 14:45.43 | Lopeppeppy | Yes. *heavy sigh* |
| 14:45.49 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: have you seen the youtube nomkitty? |
| 14:45.58 | Lopeppeppy | She meers a lot. And I have an ear infection from my allergies kicking up a notch. |
| 14:46.14 | alestane | Um, ugh. Are her stitches holding at least? |
| 14:46.25 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: http://www.youtube.com/laucknerd |
| 14:46.41 | Lopeppeppy | All except just the last few, in the hardest area. She had most of them out on Monday, but got more staples in her 'armpit' |
| 14:47.32 | Lopeppeppy | That's not a happy kitty, that's a kitty who's gonna take out your eye if you get near the food... |
| 14:51.35 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 14:51.43 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Shirik |
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| 14:58.59 | malreth | woo... |
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| 14:59.47 | alestane | "Woo," you say. |
| 14:59.58 | malreth | yes, i woo at you |
| 15:00.47 | alestane | Glad we got that cleared up. |
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| 15:06.58 | Cruciformer | ok well that wasnt too terribly painful. woot my first upload to wowinterface :P |
| 15:08.21 | Seerah | approved :) |
| 15:08.34 | Cruciformer | yeehah ty seerah :) |
| 15:08.39 | Cruciformer | let the madness begin :P |
| 15:08.57 | Thunder_Child | ...you failed at your duty Seerah |
| 15:09.13 | Seerah | oh... *ahem*... DENIED!!!!!! mwahahaha |
| 15:09.38 | Thunder_Child | your response should have been something like "Denied due to possible keylogger" |
| 15:09.39 | Cruciformer | but I already slipped you the $100 ... I want a refund :P |
| 15:09.54 | Cruciformer | (with interest) |
| 15:10.19 | Seerah | runs off to the Caribbean |
| 15:12.13 | Cruciformer | Not that I expect to get hits from there but how often does the "new and updated" bit on the left update? |
| 15:12.32 | Cruciformer | umm ... my other left, what u folks call the "right" |
| 15:12.33 | Seerah | 15 mins |
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| 15:16.52 | malreth | eating 1400 Slim Jims can kill you from sodium nitrite poisoning |
| 15:17.49 | durcyn | how many slim jims do you usually eat in a sitting? |
| 15:17.51 | alestane | Is that our fun fact for the day? |
| 15:18.17 | durcyn | i mean, my current average is zero, but I'm very curious about your eating habits now |
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| 15:23.31 | kunwon1 | goes out to buy 1,399 slim jims |
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| 15:24.18 | Cruciformer | guess I'll stop at 1350 a day to be safe then |
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| 15:30.18 | Cruciformer | man but cubase is complicated |
| 15:31.53 | |Jelly| | Yeah it is |
| 15:32.44 | Cruciformer | and my pro audio card causes vista to BSOD soI have to use a crappy sb fatal1ty pro |
| 15:33.33 | Cruciformer | for some reason it clashes with my nvidia drivers, of all things. |
| 15:33.53 | Cruciformer | not that nvidia drivers are exactly renowmned for playing nice with other stuff. |
| 15:39.22 | Cruciformer | im trying to decide if I should get 2 nvidia 295's or wait for the 300 series card. I'll get both about the same time. |
| 15:40.07 | Shirik | li23-154 repos # su apache |
| 15:40.07 | Shirik | This account is currently not available. |
| 15:40.09 | Shirik | o.O |
| 15:40.15 | Shirik | wtf does that mean |
| 15:40.38 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:40.42 | Cruciformer | does it have a shell or is the shell /bin/false? |
| 15:40.42 | Lopeppeppy | Depends on what service? |
| 15:41.21 | Cruciformer | linux added /sbin/nologin? /bin/false wasn't good enough? |
| 15:41.40 | Shirik | I've always just used /bin/false |
| 15:41.53 | durcyn | yeah, well, you asked. |
| 15:41.58 | Shirik | thanks |
| 15:42.00 | wsoul | quick question: blade ward vs blood draining "tank dk dw" |
| 15:42.04 | Shirik | he is right still :) |
| 15:43.22 | Cruciformer | so changing the shell fixed it? |
| 15:43.25 | alestane | Interesting, just picked up a two-handed axe "of the Elder." |
| 15:43.43 | Lopeppeppy | Rogues are gonna love that! |
| 15:44.32 | mikma | wsoul: never dw as tank :O |
| 15:44.40 | alestane | I'd just imagine, since they can't equip it and they don't need the benefits. |
| 15:45.02 | wsoul | mikma: so far so good though :( |
| 15:45.14 | mikma | wsoul: but seriously, don't :) |
| 15:45.38 | wsoul | Hmmmm, care to elaborate a little |
| 15:46.16 | Lopeppeppy | Rogues can equip axes soon, IIRC. And we totally wanna be smart! SMRT smart |
| 15:46.38 | mikma | wsoul: http://www.skeletonjack.com/2009/08/08/3-2-questions-and-answers-by-sj-part-2/ -> DW Tanking vs 2H Tanking |
| 15:46.44 | durcyn | 1H, not 2H, Lopeppeppy |
| 15:46.46 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: You can equip axes now...one-handed axes. |
| 15:47.21 | alestane | wsoul: If it works for you, go for it. |
| 15:47.38 | Lopeppeppy | I think I missed the 2H part. |
| 15:49.04 | wsoul | sec let me read |
| 15:49.12 | foxlit | "Don't look so smug! I know what you're thinking, but the sundering was merely a set back! Wait -- you... I remember you... in the.. GRRRRRAAAAGHHHH!!! My demise accomplishes NOTHING!" |
| 15:49.18 | wsoul | but so far, the failures with braindead healers/dpsers |
| 15:49.41 | wsoul | the only thing that pisses me off |
| 15:50.00 | wsoul | when braindead blames you for not having an aggro when he's leaving his pet running loose |
| 15:50.07 | wsoul | happened in old kingdom and dtk |
| 15:50.23 | wsoul | mikma did you read deathknight.info forums? |
| 15:50.42 | wsoul | sec |
| 15:51.02 | wsoul | http://deathknight.info/forum/index.php?topic=4528.0 |
| 15:53.45 | mikma | wsoul: i have a look later |
| 15:57.16 | wsoul | hehe whoever wrote that comment is funny from the link you posted |
| 16:02.56 | wsoul | was there a prize for completing 3000 quests btw? |
| 16:03.12 | wsoul | that ! tabard iirc |
| 16:03.16 | foxlit | title |
| 16:03.22 | alestane | Title "So-and-So the Seeker" |
| 16:03.25 | foxlit | no tabard, iirc |
| 16:03.35 | alestane | Tabard is for finishing the loremaster acheivements. |
| 16:04.14 | wsoul | oh right |
| 16:04.14 | wsoul | 2703 quests completed so far |
| 16:04.14 | wsoul | not sure if they're counting the dailies as well |
| 16:04.14 | alestane | They don't. |
| 16:04.24 | wsoul | heh, 297 then to go |
| 16:15.55 | alestane | Finish the Loremaster acheivements ad you cant help but get Seeker along the way. |
| 16:16.22 | wsoul | yeah |
| 16:16.36 | wsoul | the only title i want is frozen wastes.. eoe |
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| 16:18.48 | Codayus_ | Getting the Kalimdor chunk of the Loremaster achievement is unfun. :-( |
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| 16:19.06 | wsoul | mining is |
| 16:19.10 | alestane | They shaved like 30 quests off a while ago and made it much more doable. |
| 16:19.15 | wsoul | took 2 days from 300 to 450 |
| 16:19.40 | Codayus_ | alestane: It's still a nasty chunk of quests, especially for most alliance. |
| 16:19.41 | durcyn | loremaster was pretty simple, at least as alliance with tourguide going |
| 16:20.00 | durcyn | "run around the night elf starting area", followed by "run around the draenei starting area", fin. |
| 16:20.02 | KarlKFI | tourguide is cheating |
| 16:20.04 | Codayus_ | But yeah, simple enough. *shrug* |
| 16:20.09 | Codayus_ | Just soooo boring.... >< |
| 16:20.29 | wsoul | WTB decent guild! |
| 16:20.41 | wsoul | the guild i play with now some of them are cool |
| 16:20.45 | durcyn | i put it to you to name an aspect of wow that isn't boring, Codayus_ |
| 16:20.49 | alestane | I had to slaughter the Twilight's Hammer at the Master's Glaive until that damn book dropped to get the acheivement, I did it before they made it easier. |
| 16:20.55 | wsoul | some inv their friends to "loot" items even if they have low dps |
| 16:21.06 | Codayus_ | durcyn: Heh. A lot of raiding isn't. :-) |
| 16:21.10 | wsoul | supposedly i get last laugh but but..... |
| 16:21.17 | wsoul | sigh |
| 16:21.27 | wsoul | might ask cobra to join them |
| 16:21.40 | wsoul | they were asking in trade channel |
| 16:21.59 | Lopeppeppy | Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. |
| 16:22.11 | durcyn | Codayus_: clearing everything in two days is pretty boring imo |
| 16:22.19 | wsoul | you play with them? |
| 16:22.24 | wsoul | Lopeppeppy |
| 16:22.30 | wsoul | EU on kazzak |
| 16:22.31 | kneeki | Is there a more reliable way to view all the PC's on a local network other than going to the windows networking manager? |
| 16:22.44 | durcyn | kneeki: ping -b |
| 16:22.56 | durcyn | kneeki: nmap foo/24 |
| 16:22.57 | Codayus_ | durcyn: *shrug* YMMV. Working on new hardmodes is usually fun though. |
| 16:23.05 | durcyn | Codayus_: there are no new hard modes :( |
| 16:23.19 | nevcairiel | ..yet! |
| 16:23.19 | Codayus_ | And just because you've burnt through the content too fast doesn't make it less boring. :-) |
| 16:23.20 | kneeki | durcyn: Linux? |
| 16:23.33 | durcyn | kneeki: nmap is portable. i have no idea of windows ping is smart enough to do broadcasts. |
| 16:23.52 | Codayus_ | ...in an objective sense. I'm sure it's boring for you. :-) |
| 16:23.53 | kneeki | durcyn: It's not, -b was a bad option |
| 16:23.59 | kneeki | never heard of nmap before though |
| 16:24.10 | durcyn | kneeki: just ping the subnet broadcast address then |
| 16:24.10 | zenzelezz | :-o |
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| 16:24.17 | durcyn | then check your arp tables |
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| 16:41.55 | Cloudwolf | !api moveable |
| 16:41.55 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'moveable'. |
| 16:42.07 | mikma | http://flors.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/screenshot13.png?w=500&h=300 |
| 16:42.27 | alestane | !api movable |
| 16:42.27 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'movable': Frame:IsMovable, Frame:SetMovable |
| 16:42.57 | Cloudwolf | lol i have horrible spelling :D |
| 16:43.06 | Cloudwolf | !api Frame:SetMoveable |
| 16:43.06 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'Frame:SetMoveable'. |
| 16:43.11 | Cloudwolf | !api Frame:SetMovable |
| 16:43.11 | lua_bot | Frame:SetMovable: Sets whether the frame can be moved by the user (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/SetMovable) |
| 16:43.13 | Cloudwolf | same spelling error |
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| 16:48.07 | Cloudwolf | hmmm.... Frame:CreateTitleRegion doesn't take any arguments? |
| 16:49.17 | alestane | It doesn't get a name, it doesn't need a layer? |
| 16:49.34 | Cloudwolf | ?... |
| 16:49.57 | Cloudwolf | the only thing its making me wonder is hwo do you control the size of the title region |
| 16:50.22 | Cloudwolf | unless your supposed to have a separate frame the exact size you want for the title region |
| 16:50.39 | alestane | Set anchors on it after you create it, I'm guessing. |
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| 16:54.02 | Cruciformer | nevcairiel: u there sir? |
| 16:54.34 | nevcairiel | possibly |
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| 16:55.06 | Cruciformer | whats "beta" about the new quartz? Anything you need tested specifically and will it still work as per normal? |
| 16:55.19 | nevcairiel | i have nothing to do with that |
| 16:55.34 | Lopeppeppy | Quick pop quiz: The girl in the new The Guild video, what's her class? I forget and my ears hurt too much to watch videos! |
| 16:55.41 | Cruciformer | Project Manager: Nymbia |
| 16:55.42 | Cruciformer | Additional Authors: Nevcairiel |
| 16:55.50 | Cruciformer | thats why I asked :) |
| 16:55.54 | nevcairiel | yeah some other guy did that stuff |
| 16:55.55 | Fisker | naw Lopeppeppy |
| 16:56.00 | Adys | http://derrenbrownart.com/blog/2009/08/longest-poem-world-written-twitter/ |
| 16:56.03 | Fisker | i'd rather want to know if the carpet matches the curtain |
| 16:56.03 | Fisker | hoho |
| 16:56.09 | Lopeppeppy | Bad fisker. |
| 16:56.22 | Lopeppeppy | Even a link, I'd go watch it again if I had to. |
| 16:56.48 | Seerah | Lopeppeppy: which girl? |
| 16:56.50 | Seerah | there are 3 |
| 16:57.05 | Lopeppeppy | Frell. Friend just asked about "the girl". |
| 16:57.11 | Cloudwolf | !api screen |
| 16:57.11 | lua_bot | Found 10 possible results for 'screen': SetScreenResolution, GetScreenResolutions, GetScreenHeight, SCREENSHOT_FAILED, Screenshot, SCREENSHOT_SUCCEEDED, Frame:IsClampedToScreen, Frame:SetClampedToScreen, SetupFullscreenScale, GetScreenWidth |
| 16:57.57 | Seerah | Lopeppeppy: main character (Felicia Day) is a mage-type, blonde is a priest/healer-type, and Tink (asian girl) is a hunter/scout-type |
| 16:58.31 | alestane | First two are backward, but basically. |
| 16:58.39 | Lopeppeppy | I thought Felicia was a mage. |
| 16:58.41 | kdtresh | codex is a priest |
| 16:58.50 | kdtresh | clara is a mage |
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| 16:59.33 | kdtresh | and we don't know if the carpet matches the drapes :P |
| 16:59.50 | Lopeppeppy | I had a non-wow friend asking about "the girl", I am going to assume she means Felicia Day. |
| 16:59.59 | kdtresh | probably |
| 17:00.28 | Seerah | Lopeppeppy: http://www.watchtheguild.com/characters/ |
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| 17:00.55 | Lopeppeppy | Seerah, you rock. *hugs* When my ears are exploding, I will bake more cookies! |
| 17:01.15 | alestane | Aren't* ? |
| 17:02.23 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. What you said. *sigh* |
| 17:03.31 | mikma | so, what ways are there to get the current score of pvp match? |
| 17:03.45 | Lopeppeppy | End it? :) |
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| 17:04.44 | mikma | GetWorldStateUIInfo(i) -> that one tells me alot of stuff, and "Alliance: foo, Score: bar" |
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| 17:05.51 | Cruciformer | Lopeppeppy: ear infection? |
| 17:06.08 | Lopeppeppy | Probably, Cruciformer. Appt. tomorrow to talk to my dr. |
| 17:06.28 | Lopeppeppy | But it's both ears, so it may be sinuses. |
| 17:06.45 | Cruciformer | my sincere sympathies. I had a recurring ear infection that would come every 3 months like clockwork for about 5 years. had to go to urgent care every time for a massive antibiotic shot |
| 17:07.09 | Cruciformer | which eventually stopped working and just made my arm hurt for 3 days after :( |
| 17:07.12 | Lopeppeppy | I've been on antibiotics soooo many times in the last year. I'm sick of being sick. StressBGone! |
| 17:07.34 | Cruciformer | coz there aint no way on gods green earth I let anyone gimme a shot in the bum |
| 17:07.46 | kdtresh | at least it's just a shot |
| 17:07.52 | Cruciformer | Lopeppeppy: Im sure you know it but antibiotics have severe diminishing returns |
| 17:07.53 | kdtresh | better than infusions |
| 17:08.27 | Cloudwolf | !api createframe |
| 17:08.27 | lua_bot | CreateFrame: Creates a new Frame object (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CreateFrame) |
| 17:08.34 | Cruciformer | and hopefully they also prescribe you probiotics for your intestines, coz that stuff kills the flora you need down there |
| 17:09.40 | Lopeppeppy | Cruciformer, I'm a girl, it causes us more issues than you guys. I keep probiotic all the time, it's OOC. |
| 17:10.06 | Cruciformer | what cuases more issues the probiotics? |
| 17:10.10 | Cruciformer | and whats OOC? :) |
| 17:10.31 | alestane | I find yogurt helps quite a bit. |
| 17:10.36 | Lopeppeppy | Over the counter in this case, I put in too many o's |
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| 17:10.45 | Cruciformer | oh otc |
| 17:10.50 | Lopeppeppy | Females can get yeast infections as well as the other digestive issues. |
| 17:10.54 | Cruciformer | yeah the otc probiotics are usually quite felpful |
| 17:11.04 | Cruciformer | Lopeppeppy: Im aware :) |
| 17:11.10 | Cloudwolf | is there a way to display text with out using an edit box? |
| 17:11.19 | Lopeppeppy | Good yogurt, probiotics, there's nothing else to do. |
| 17:11.20 | alestane | Fontstring? |
| 17:11.52 | alestane | !api CreateFontstring |
| 17:11.53 | lua_bot | Frame:CreateFontString: Creates a new [[docs/widgets/FontString|`FontString`]] as a child of the frame (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/CreateFontString) |
| 17:13.48 | Cruciformer | Lopeppeppy: If you havent tried it,, go to a good greek food specialty store and get the plain yoghurt they have ... its drastically better than that flavoured crap you get at an average supermarket |
| 17:14.17 | Cruciformer | its so thick it doesnt even fall off a spoon. Also great for making tzatziki sauce :) |
| 17:14.58 | Lopeppeppy | You can make that thicker yogurt yourself. Buy plain, and strain it through cheesecloth overnight. Nommy. |
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| 17:15.57 | Cruciformer | how you do that? Put it in the cheesecloth and suspend it somewhere? |
| 17:16.13 | NightHawkTheSan1 | yeah, although i can't imagine it'd turn out the same as greek yogurt.. |
| 17:16.27 | Aelobin | what's the delay between /who's ? |
| 17:16.36 | NightHawkTheSan1 | (which, btw, they tend to sell in most grocery stores.. at least around me) |
| 17:16.44 | Aelobin | i mean like, the maximum you can do in a period of time for example |
| 17:17.08 | Cruciformer | NightHawkTheSan1: do you live in a predominatly greek neighborhood? :) |
| 17:17.16 | NightHawkTheSan1 | not really, no |
| 17:17.34 | Cruciformer | i find that the best olives, yoghurt and feta cheese is only to be had from a good greek store |
| 17:17.47 | Cruciformer | unless you're into curing olives yourself, in which case cure to taste |
| 17:18.22 | Cruciformer | i made the mistake once of biting into a raw uncured olive. OMFG that was aweful. taste was in my mouth for days and no amount of listerine was getting rid of it |
| 17:18.47 | Lopeppeppy | I put the cheesecloth in a strainer, dump the yogurt in, put it inside a larger bowl, and punk it into the fridge overnight. It won't be greek yogurt, but it's so much better than the runny muck. |
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| 17:19.14 | Cruciformer | Im gonna try that Lopeppeppy thanks |
| 17:19.33 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i wouldn't doubt that a non-chain greek specialty store would have better quality stuff than a chain grocery store, but the greek yogurt i get isn't terrible, so i don't mind :P |
| 17:20.01 | _rane | wasn't there a way to run a macro from inside macro? |
| 17:20.13 | _rane | something as simple as /runmacro or something |
| 17:20.14 | Cruciformer | Night: roasted potatoes, or good frennch bread, with tzatziki sauce ftw |
| 17:20.35 | Cruciformer | and of course lamb ... cant forget the lamb :) |
| 17:20.49 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Cruciformer: indeed :) |
| 17:20.56 | Cloudwolf | D: well apprantly i have no idea how ot make a moveable frame... |
| 17:20.57 | Cruciformer | cubes roasted lamb, tomatoes, onions, tzatziki in pita bread. *heaven* |
| 17:21.00 | NightHawkTheSan1 | and... now i'm hungry. :( |
| 17:21.12 | _rane | anyone? |
| 17:21.25 | Cruciformer | Cloudwolf: you need to make sure the frame is enabled for mouse inout and ... let me see the other bit you need to do |
| 17:21.44 | alestane | _rane: Only by clicking a button that triggers the macro. |
| 17:21.47 | Cloudwolf | cruciformer im trying to use a title region to do a shortcut but heh |
| 17:21.53 | Lopeppeppy | _rane, I think Cog talks about that in the macro stuff on wow wiki |
| 17:21.54 | _rane | bah |
| 17:21.56 | kdtresh | if you set it up in the xml file, you can set scripts for it |
| 17:22.01 | kdtresh | onclick start moving |
| 17:22.04 | kdtresh | offclick stop moving |
| 17:22.10 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/cats15.jpg |
| 17:22.16 | Cloudwolf | http://www.pastey.net/123490 |
| 17:22.23 | Cloudwolf | i expect im missing something crucial that i need |
| 17:22.23 | _rane | I have lots of /equip weaponname and I'd rather specify it once |
| 17:22.24 | alestane | A visible title region should drag the frame automatically. |
| 17:22.26 | NightHawkTheSan1 | you can set up scripts for it in lua, too, actually |
| 17:22.29 | Lopeppeppy | Kitty |
| 17:23.00 | Cloudwolf | thats what i have and it doesn't work how i expected |
| 17:23.15 | kdtresh | <OnMouseDown> this:StartMoving(); </OnMouseDown> |
| 17:23.23 | kdtresh | <OnMouseUp> this:StopMovingOrSizing(); </OnMouseUp> |
| 17:23.29 | kdtresh | <OnDragStop> this:StopMovingOrSizing(); </OnDragStop> |
| 17:23.43 | kdtresh | not sure how that translates to lua |
| 17:23.43 | kdtresh | i've always done it in the xml |
| 17:23.43 | alestane | Only without "this". |
| 17:24.04 | NightHawkTheSan1 | frame:SetScript('OnMouseDown', function() ... end); |
| 17:24.10 | Cruciformer | frame:SetMovable (true); frame:EnableMouse (true); title:SetScript ("OnMouseDown", function 9this) this:GetParent():StartMoving() end) title:SetScript ("OnMouseUp", function (this) this:GetParent():StopMovingOrSizing() end |
| 17:24.17 | Cruciformer | lol |
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| 17:24.25 | NightHawkTheSan1 | or, what Cruciformer said ;) |
| 17:24.26 | Cruciformer | you beat me to it kdtresh |
| 17:24.28 | alestane | From Lua you can say something like frame:SetScript('OnDragStart', frame.StartMoving) |
| 17:24.52 | Cloudwolf | so would it be best to just do that instead of trying to use a title region? |
| 17:25.19 | alestane | It might be easier. TitleRegions aren't used very much and I think they may have some oddities. |
| 17:25.25 | Cruciformer | Cloudwolf: you can attacjh that to any frame |
| 17:25.38 | NightHawkTheSan1 | you can use whatever region you want, just make sure that in the function thats called, you're calling StartMoving() on the proper frame :P |
| 17:25.59 | Cruciformer | Cloudwolf: So if you attach the scripts to the title frame, since it called Gatparent():StartMoving() it will move the container parent frame, as you want. |
| 17:26.02 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Cruciformer's example is pretty good |
| 17:27.15 | Cruciformer | Cloudwolf: II do exactly that for my mod. I create a container frame, then create a title frame as a child of that frame, anchored to the top, and do the above. |
| 17:28.24 | Cloudwolf | cruciformer do you have a reason why my text also isn't showing up? |
| 17:28.41 | Cruciformer | I didnt look at your pastey |
| 17:28.44 | Cruciformer | one sec |
| 17:29.08 | alestane | Cloudwolf: You're creating a title region, but you're not doing anything with it. |
| 17:29.23 | alestane | !api CreateTitleRegion |
| 17:29.23 | lua_bot | Frame:CreateTitleRegion: Creates a title region for dragging the frame (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/CreateTitleRegion) |
| 17:29.36 | Cruciformer | well Id start by anchoring your text somewhere :) |
| 17:30.24 | Cruciformer | and either using :SetHeight() and :SetWidth() to size it or anchor it on topleft and bottomright so it has dimensions |
| 17:30.37 | Cruciformer | as it currently stands it will be inisible |
| 17:31.07 | Cloudwolf | well anchoring itw orked lol |
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| 17:31.46 | kdtresh | is it programatically better to code the frames in lua, or does it not really make any difference? |
| 17:32.10 | alestane | It's a matter of preference and the task you're working on. |
| 17:32.28 | Cruciformer | kdtresh: If you code in Lua you cant make frame templates, thats about teh biggest difference. |
| 17:32.35 | Cloudwolf | i prefer lua cus im too lazy to pick up xml to deal with it lol |
| 17:32.36 | kdtresh | seems like it would be more useful for dynamic frames, but for some reason my brain prefers the xml |
| 17:33.06 | kdtresh | you can't inherit in the code? |
| 17:33.13 | alestane | Cloudwolf: You could try titlef:CreateTitleRegion():SetAllPoints() as a proof-of-concept, that should make the frame draggable by any point on it. |
| 17:33.14 | Cruciformer | youre you can |
| 17:33.20 | Cruciformer | *sure you can |
| 17:33.35 | alestane | kdtresh: I find that I usually create templates in XML, then dynamically instantiate them in Lua. |
| 17:33.51 | Cruciformer | theres ways around it, you just cant create an official frame template that can be used by other people's createframe calls |
| 17:33.58 | Cruciformer | (if you even want that) |
| 17:36.23 | Cloudwolf | hmmm cruciformer your method with out using the title region gives me an error.... in framexml basic controls O.o |
| 17:36.49 | Cloudwolf | message interface\addons\notetote\notetote.lua:7: attempted to index a nil value... hmmm |
| 17:36.53 | Cloudwolf | line 7 |
| 17:37.00 | Cruciformer | well yes my method depends omn teh title frame because of the GetParent() calls. remove those and you should be good. |
| 17:37.01 | alestane | Cloudwolf: :CreateTitleRegion returns a reference to the created title region; you need to DO something to that region like set anchor points if you want it to work. |
| 17:37.06 | Cloudwolf | ah i know why title hasn't got a parent |
| 17:37.27 | alestane | Also, right now all errors appear to happen in BasicControls, look two lines down for the real error. |
| 17:37.28 | Cloudwolf | huzzah! |
| 17:37.30 | Cloudwolf | it moves! |
| 17:37.43 | Cloudwolf | its cus i was going to have everything use the title as the parent |
| 17:37.48 | Cloudwolf | and not the title on the parent |
| 17:37.58 | Cloudwolf | now i need to figure out active scaling.... |
| 17:38.02 | Cloudwolf | that will be fun... |
| 17:39.00 | Cloudwolf | i had an idea for that create like a 5x5 frame at the bottom left of a frame and move it and set that as the new bottom left x and y height from the top frame |
| 17:39.34 | Cruciformer | frame:SetMinResize (minwidth, minheight) |
| 17:40.11 | Cruciformer | definately want to call that to set minimums |
| 17:40.47 | Cloudwolf | im not so concerned about a minimum atm lol |
| 17:41.06 | Cruciformer | and do a SetScript ("OnMouseDown") that contains this:GetParent():StartSizing ("direction) |
| 17:41.06 | Cloudwolf | first i need to get the functionality |
| 17:41.27 | Cruciformer | for example :StartSizing ("BOTTOMRIGHT") |
| 17:41.40 | Cruciformer | then an OnMouse Up that calles StopMovingOrSizing() |
| 17:42.48 | Cruciformer | Cloudwolf: I suggest you create a small (16x16 or so) frame anchored to the bottom right of your parent frame, that you attach those scripts to |
| 17:42.55 | kdtresh | do you have to call startsizing for all the children of the parent, or will their anchors move automatically? |
| 17:43.27 | Cruciformer | their anchors move automagically |
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| 17:43.52 | Cruciformer | depending of course on what they are anchored to :) |
| 17:43.56 | Cloudwolf | !api setpoint |
| 17:43.57 | lua_bot | Region:SetPoint: Sets an anchor point for the region (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/SetPoint) |
| 17:44.14 | Cruciformer | If you just anchored topleft and bottomleft and then used setwidth to set the width of your child, it wont change |
| 17:44.28 | Cruciformer | if you used topleft and bottomright and it was anchored to teh frame thats resizining, it will. |
| 17:44.47 | Cruciformer | forgive my typing have smoke in hand :p |
| 17:45.18 | Cloudwolf | atm im just trying to create hte body frame and its not liking me lol |
| 17:46.04 | Cloudwolf | there we go |
| 17:46.35 | Kraps | aint this a kick in the head http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/10674117822-about-the-new-fancy-mailsystem.html |
| 17:50.02 | Cloudwolf | lol just lock this thread |
| 17:51.08 | Lopeppeppy | Good idea. :) |
| 17:52.55 | Cloudwolf | !api setscript |
| 17:52.55 | lua_bot | ScriptableObject:SetScript: This function is not yet documented (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/ScriptableObject/SetScript) |
| 17:53.05 | Cloudwolf | D: |
| 17:53.11 | Cloudwolf | i need to find onmousedown and things again |
| 17:53.18 | Cloudwolf | nvm |
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| 18:00.22 | Cloudwolf | hmm |
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| 18:00.45 | Cloudwolf | noteframe:SetMultiLine(true) that line of code breaks the ability for my editbox to move with the title O.o |
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| 18:01.21 | Cruciformer | then its anchored incorectly |
| 18:01.31 | Cruciformer | or was not created with the parent frame set correctly |
| 18:02.08 | Cloudwolf | http://www.pastey.net/123493 |
| 18:02.15 | Cloudwolf | and i knwo my code isn't tabbed and thsuahrd to read |
| 18:02.21 | Cloudwolf | its towards the bottom i removed multi line |
| 18:02.32 | Cloudwolf | but it was around noteframe:SetAutoFocus(false) |
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| 18:03.22 | Cloudwolf | nvm |
| 18:03.36 | Cloudwolf | i was using the wrong font thing i just hcanged it and tried multline it works |
| 18:06.39 | Cloudwolf | is there a way to limit multiline to a specific ammount of lines based on the frames height? |
| 18:07.03 | Cruciformer | it does that automatically I believe |
| 18:07.26 | Cruciformer | oh wait I know what you're asking. Not as far as I know, no. |
| 18:08.07 | Cruciformer | but I am no expert |
| 18:08.19 | Cloudwolf | that stinks |
| 18:08.25 | Cloudwolf | cus that almost defeats the purpose of a notepad XD |
| 18:08.26 | foxlit | Yes, there is. |
| 18:08.32 | Cloudwolf | foxlit do you know how? |
| 18:08.37 | Cruciformer | see? I knew someone would know :) |
| 18:08.45 | foxlit | I'm afraid you've used up your limit of one question per eternity. |
| 18:08.55 | Cloudwolf | Jerk lol |
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| 18:09.21 | Cloudwolf | Foxlit how would i make it limit how many lines of multi line it gets depending on the height of hte frame? |
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| 18:10.08 | foxlit | ScrollFrames clip their children. |
| 18:10.23 | Cruciformer | Cloudwolf: I think you basic premise is flawed. What happens if one of the "lines" is really really long and wraps |
| 18:10.35 | Cruciformer | you are not going to be able to get away from scrolling |
| 18:11.19 | Cloudwolf | well then i guess i better figure out scrolling |
| 18:11.21 | Cruciformer | unless you limit teh number of characters |
| 18:11.37 | Cruciformer | !api setmax |
| 18:11.37 | lua_bot | Found 5 possible results for 'setmax': EditBox:SetMaxBytes, Frame:SetMaxResize, Animation:SetMaxFramerate, ScrollingMessageFrame:SetMaxLines, EditBox:SetMaxLetters |
| 18:11.59 | foxlit | Cruciformer: I think the point is more to prevent the text box from expanding out of its intended rectangle, rather than limit the amount of text you could put into it. |
| 18:12.03 | Cloudwolf | see that woudlnt work so well for me |
| 18:12.12 | Cloudwolf | as im trying to let people scale the frame how they want it |
| 18:12.28 | Cloudwolf | so unless i do a hell of a lot of calculations |
| 18:12.37 | kdtresh | a scrollframe shouldn't expand beyond the bounds of the frame though, right? |
| 18:12.59 | Cruciformer | then you are going to have to use a scrolling frame and deal with that, in case their extant data becomes too large for the frame |
| 18:13.21 | Cruciformer | (they had sized to a big frame, not they size down) |
| 18:13.28 | Cruciformer | s/not/now/ |
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| 18:14.45 | Cloudwolf | hmmm |
| 18:15.22 | Cruciformer | anyway its time for my post dinner, pre-raid nap |
| 18:16.06 | Cloudwolf | ok that clipepd it now i gota figute out hwo to add a scroll bar lol |
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| 18:16.27 | Shirik | rawr! |
| 18:16.38 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy and Gryphen |
| 18:16.42 | Gryphen | huggles Lopeppeppy and Shirik |
| 18:16.52 | Shirik | wins at Gryphen |
| 18:16.56 | Gryphen | wins at Shirik |
| 18:16.57 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR |
| 18:17.03 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 18:18.00 | Lopeppeppy | huggles Gryphen |
| 18:18.04 | Gryphen | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 18:18.54 | Shirik | dictionary.com needs a "random <noun/verb/adjective>" option |
| 18:19.32 | Cloudwolf | !api scrollframe |
| 18:19.32 | lua_bot | Found 9 possible results for 'scrollframe': ScrollFrame:GetVerticalScrollRange, ScrollFrame:GetScrollChild, ScrollFrame:SetScrollChild, ScrollFrame:SetHorizontalScroll, ScrollFrame:GetVerticalScroll, ScrollFrame:UpdateScrollChildRect, ScrollFrame:SetVerticalScroll, ScrollFrame:GetHorizontalScrollRange, ScrollFrame:GetHorizontalScroll |
| 18:20.32 | Cloudwolf | hmmm |
| 18:21.12 | Cloudwolf | i have no idea how to add a scroll bar i can make it clip the text now i just cant make it so i can go view the text thats been clipped D: |
| 18:21.27 | Cloudwolf | !api SetVerticalScroll |
| 18:21.27 | lua_bot | ScrollFrame:SetVerticalScroll: Sets the scroll frame's vertical scroll position (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/ScrollFrame/SetVerticalScroll) |
| 18:23.04 | Cide | hi |
| 18:23.11 | Cloudwolf | hi cide |
| 18:23.29 | Cloudwolf | cide are you familiar with scrollframes? |
| 18:23.32 | ScytheBlade1 | python is a terrible language for actual CPU work, it seems |
| 18:23.35 | Cide | naturally |
| 18:23.46 | Cide | I'm familiar with most every gui construct! |
| 18:24.06 | Cloudwolf | How would i make a scrollframe quite lieteraly scroll? |
| 18:24.09 | Cide | I just can't recall my knowledge |
| 18:24.12 | Cloudwolf | i got it to clip text how i wanted |
| 18:24.16 | Cloudwolf | i just cant view the clipped text any mroe |
| 18:24.20 | Cide | look at the quest frame |
| 18:24.38 | Cloudwolf | isn't that in xml? |
| 18:24.48 | Cide | yes... |
| 18:24.57 | Cloudwolf | >.> trying to do it inlua |
| 18:25.06 | Cide | so translate it |
| 18:26.13 | Cloudwolf | well now i gota figure out where to dl that thing that shows me all the xml and lua files |
| 18:26.21 | Cloudwolf | i forgot to redl it after my harddrive fried... |
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| 18:27.03 | Cloudwolf | found that heh time todl and install |
| 18:27.54 | NeoTron | wow. http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/ |
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| 18:31.04 | Cloudwolf | -_- i wish i knew how to translate xml into lua lol |
| 18:32.08 | Esamynn | Cloudwolf: what? you don't? |
| 18:32.12 | Esamynn | ~fail Cloudwolf |
| 18:32.12 | purl | Cloudwolf, you Fail! |
| 18:32.16 | Esamynn | ;) |
| 18:32.28 | Cloudwolf | :P hey i barely even understand my own thoughts shhh |
| 18:32.34 | Esamynn | HAHA |
| 18:33.13 | Shirik | How to translate xml into Lua |
| 18:33.30 | Shirik | move myFile.xml C:\Recycle.bin\ |
| 18:33.40 | Shirik | That's what it was anyway |
| 18:34.11 | Cloudwolf | meh.... now i think i will never figure out the scrollbar for the scroll frame lol |
| 18:34.16 | Esamynn | ~lart Shirik |
| 18:34.16 | purl | forces Shirik to use Outlook Express |
| 18:34.23 | Esamynn | ooooh, ouch |
| 18:34.35 | malreth | ~x xml lua <StatusBar name="HealBot_StatusBar" virtual="true" frameStrata="MEDIUM" hidden="false"> |
| 18:34.37 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 18:34.37 | purl | aw, gee, Esamynn |
| 18:34.54 | sylvanaar | $Recycle.Bin thats clever |
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| 18:35.48 | Shirik | I hate the name |
| 18:36.01 | Shirik | .bin makes me think "binary file" i.e., executable |
| 18:36.04 | sylvanaar | it is 8.3 |
| 18:36.11 | Shirik | which of course SHOULDN'T be possible with folders |
| 18:36.21 | Shirik | but then Mac went into the world "oh yeah folders are TOTALLY programs" |
| 18:36.26 | ScytheBlade1 | folders have the execute bit too |
| 18:36.31 | ScytheBlade1 | directories, rather |
| 18:36.35 | Shirik | means something completely different :P |
| 18:36.44 | ScytheBlade1 | doesn't change the fact! |
| 18:36.51 | sylvanaar | !! |
| 18:36.59 | zenzelezz | sets Lopeppeppy's sticky bit |
| 18:37.04 | Shirik | ... |
| 18:37.10 | Lopeppeppy | Mrph? |
| 18:37.16 | malreth | folders aren't programs |
| 18:37.17 | Shirik | I think that went over her head, lol |
| 18:37.21 | Kraps | a dw warrior needs 16% hit? |
| 18:37.30 | malreth | they're bundles |
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| 18:37.45 | Slafsinator | Kraps: 0% |
| 18:37.47 | Slafsinator | 9% |
| 18:37.50 | Shirik | you double click on it, it runs |
| 18:37.58 | Bruners | industrial: raid |
| 18:38.08 | sylvanaar | sets his V flag |
| 18:38.11 | Kraps | 9% is for 1 handers |
| 18:38.13 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: we need a name! |
| 18:38.19 | ScytheBlade1 | we do |
| 18:38.20 | malreth | Shirik: yeah? |
| 18:38.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I suck at naming |
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| 18:38.29 | Slafsinator | Kraps: the number of hands doesn't matter |
| 18:38.32 | Shirik | me too |
| 18:38.32 | zenzelezz | a name for what? |
| 18:38.43 | Cloudwolf | So...... i have no idea how to mkae a scrollbar lol |
| 18:38.44 | Lopeppeppy | Betsey |
| 18:38.47 | Slafsinator | Kraps: only thing that matters is how many weapons you hold in them |
| 18:39.07 | Kraps | Slafsinator: sure i matters, miss goes up if you dw |
| 18:39.16 | Slafsinator | yes, that's what I said |
| 18:39.17 | Kraps | s/i/it |
| 18:39.26 | Esamynn | Cloudwolf: it's a long, arduous process, involving complex Arance magic |
| 18:39.31 | Kraps | thats what i asked... |
| 18:39.52 | Slafsinator | and you got your answer |
| 18:39.56 | Slafsinator | 9% hit |
| 18:39.58 | alestane | Cloudwolf: A scrollbar is usually just a slider control created as a child of a ScrollFrame, with an OnValueChanged script. |
| 18:40.25 | Cloudwolf | no idea how i would make it change which line it displays tho... |
| 18:40.27 | Esamynn | Cloudwolf: sorry, I'm not feeling very helpful this morning, please ignore me |
| 18:40.32 | sylvanaar | isnt it a sibling? |
| 18:40.33 | Kraps | i'm not sure we're understanding each other |
| 18:40.47 | Slafsinator | ok, ask again then but more specific |
| 18:40.59 | malreth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_Bundle |
| 18:41.00 | ScytheBlade1 | =[! |
| 18:41.00 | Esamynn | Cloudwolf: are you trying to scroll a list? |
| 18:41.02 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/082709-new-attack-cracks-common-wi-fi.html |
| 18:41.05 | ScytheBlade1 | WPA cracked in 1 minute |
| 18:41.12 | Cloudwolf | easmynn im trying to scroll an editbox |
| 18:41.28 | Esamynn | ahhh |
| 18:41.30 | sylvanaar | you should have moved to WPA2 over a year ago |
| 18:41.32 | Kraps | what % of hit does a dual-wielding warrior need? |
| 18:41.44 | Slafsinator | 9% |
| 18:42.02 | Kraps | 9% is for single wielding |
| 18:42.04 | malreth | hey... how much defense does a paladin need to be unfearable? |
| 18:42.11 | Slafsinator | and? |
| 18:42.18 | Slafsinator | they don't need more |
| 18:42.19 | Cloudwolf | esamynn do you have any ideas? XD |
| 18:42.23 | Slafsinator | they'll just miss white attacks |
| 18:42.36 | Slafsinator | if you want to never miss white attacks you'll need 28% IIRC |
| 18:42.43 | Esamynn | Cloudwolf: you could try referencing something that already does that, I do know it involves a special frame time (the name escapes me atm) |
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| 18:42.49 | Esamynn | s/time/type/ |
| 18:42.58 | Slafsinator | then again, you prioritize never missing yellows and then you spend your time getting bigger numbers |
| 18:43.15 | Cloudwolf | scrollframe? |
| 18:43.18 | Cloudwolf | scrollmessageframe? |
| 18:43.22 | Esamynn | scrollframe |
| 18:43.46 | Kraps | so your saying that missinfg 20% of white attacks is not a problem? :o |
| 18:43.59 | Slafsinator | it's not your primary concern, no |
| 18:44.14 | Esamynn | Cloudwolf: you should do some reading about how ScrollFrame works, try wowwiki or wowprogramming |
| 18:44.32 | Kraps | huh |
| 18:44.33 | Cloudwolf | scrollframe has very little documentation on scrollframe |
| 18:44.45 | Cloudwolf | *wowwiki |
| 18:45.17 | Esamynn | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/ScrollFrame |
| 18:45.22 | Esamynn | that anymore helpful? |
| 18:45.53 | Slafsinator | well sorry kraps, they lowered the % by 1 since last time I cared to check, so it's 8 and 27% now |
| 18:46.39 | Kraps | isnt the base dw miss chance 19%? |
| 18:46.53 | Slafsinator | look, as far as I can see http://www.wowwiki.com/Hit_rating#Calculating_miss_rate is correct |
| 18:47.44 | Slafsinator | so yeah, the added miss chance for white attacks is increased by 19% once you equip another weapon |
| 18:47.55 | Slafsinator | now, I'm going away and all you have is wowwiki! |
| 18:48.29 | Kraps | aww dont leave me! |
| 18:49.02 | Esamynn | for DW, that 19% miss chance only applies to the off-hand weapon iirc |
| 18:49.37 | Kraps | is beginning to see the light |
| 18:51.43 | Kraps | so most dws just go for 8% to never miss a yellow attack? |
| 18:52.23 | Esamynn | I thought it was 9%, but yes |
| 18:52.26 | alestane | Gotta love it when people who can't even write functional HTML try to add Javascript to their projects. |
| 18:52.29 | Cloudwolf | hmm now i have to figure out how to make the slider able to scroll |
| 18:52.53 | Lopeppeppy | This might be why stats are changing so drastically in Cataclysm.... *innocent whistle* |
| 18:53.11 | Esamynn | haha |
| 18:53.26 | Esamynn | they didn't mention changing hit |
| 18:53.31 | Kraps | ^ |
| 18:53.34 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, you're as innocent as Cairenn|afk. which is to say "as the driven-on snow" |
| 18:53.45 | Esamynn | panics some more over the "removal" of attack power |
| 18:53.46 | alestane | "Since when do I need to be a freakin' math Major to ROKK?" "Remind me to never play you any Rush." |
| 18:54.10 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 18:54.23 | Esamynn | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 18:54.23 | purl | executes killall -HUP Thunder_Child |
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| 18:54.51 | Lopeppeppy | No one drives on me. *grin* |
| 18:54.59 | alestane | I would welcome the game being a little less about 12-dimensional compatibility matrices. |
| 18:55.01 | Kraps | Esamynn: from the dtv stream, it looked like people were actually panicking at the ap removal |
| 18:55.12 | Esamynn | hah |
| 18:55.40 | alestane | Thunder_Child: Take care, Cairenn|afk may resemble that remark. |
| 18:55.42 | Esamynn | Kraps: I was more refering to the "now you can panic" joke, but... =D |
| 18:55.51 | Kraps | yeah |
| 18:56.05 | Cloudwolf | well my scroll bar is still annoying me lol |
| 18:56.20 | Kraps | 27-3= |
| 18:56.28 | Kraps | ~27-3 |
| 18:56.29 | purl | 24 |
| 18:56.44 | Kraps | good... girl? |
| 18:57.04 | Esamynn | Kraps: just ~botsnack |
| 18:57.15 | Kraps | ~botsnack |
| 18:57.15 | purl | thanks, Kraps |
| 18:57.21 | Kraps | np |
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| 19:00.30 | Shirik | is today only thursday? |
| 19:02.06 | Esamynn | yes |
| 19:02.15 | Esamynn | WTB Friday |
| 19:03.30 | alestane | WTB Monday, honestly. |
| 19:03.37 | Kraps | is today already thursday? |
| 19:03.40 | alestane | Of course, I don't work full-time. |
| 19:03.48 | Kraps | ^ |
| 19:04.11 | Shirik | today is my friday |
| 19:04.13 | foxlit | It's Friday somewhere. |
| 19:04.17 | Shirik | I do nothing on Fridays :D |
| 19:04.24 | Cloudwolf | any one know a simple addon that uses a slider? |
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| 19:10.34 | malreth | i just sneezed seven times in a row... i think that means i have swine flu now |
| 19:10.44 | Cloudwolf | uhoh... |
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| 19:11.48 | Cloudwolf | well... |
| 19:11.54 | Cloudwolf | im pissed... |
| 19:12.03 | alestane | malreth: My mother is in deep trouble then. |
| 19:12.47 | alestane | Cloudwolf: ScrollFrames are in fact one of the more complex parts of the UI. |
| 19:12.58 | malreth | alestane: in my will, i bequeath onto you my WoW account. i hope you enjoy having a lv 47 rogue |
| 19:12.58 | Cloudwolf | yeah well im tyring otmake a slider atm |
| 19:12.59 | NeoTron | Prepare to be dazzled - http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/ |
| 19:13.03 | Cloudwolf | so i can scroll the damned scroll frame... |
| 19:13.18 | Cloudwolf | and im not sure how to do that properly... |
| 19:13.24 | Cloudwolf | !api slider |
| 19:13.24 | lua_bot | Found 13 possible matches for 'slider'. Please be more specific |
| 19:13.34 | Yssaril | anyone know of a decent reputation LDB plugin? |
| 19:16.13 | Seerah | NeoTron: you linked that not even an hour ago... :P |
| 19:16.18 | ScytheBlade1 | wow |
| 19:16.19 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.dabeaz.com/python/GIL.pdf |
| 19:16.21 | Cloudwolf | well im going to go kill myself..... |
| 19:16.26 | alestane | malreth: He'll go nicely next the level 72 rogue. |
| 19:16.30 | ScytheBlade1 | pages 5, 6, 31, and 32 |
| 19:16.40 | Seerah | Yssaril: broker factions |
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| 19:17.59 | Cloudwolf | maybe i should just use buttons to scroll up and down -_- if i can figure out how to force a scrollframe to scroll |
| 19:18.02 | Yssaril | Seerah: ty just wat i'm looking for :) |
| 19:19.18 | alestane | Cloudwolf: A ScrollFrame as a scroll range in each direction. Set its scroll value between 0 and that value. |
| 19:19.24 | alestane | has* a |
| 19:20.03 | alestane | The range is determined by the difference between the scroll frame's size and that of its scroll child. |
| 19:20.45 | NeoTron | Seerah: irc channel confusion! |
| 19:20.53 | Seerah | hehe |
| 19:21.12 | Cloudwolf | well im able tos ee my sliders but high and low text on it are on the exact same spot and i can't acutaly scrollt he little slider lol |
| 19:21.23 | NeoTron | specifically I thought I thought of linking it but didn't but then it turns out I did but it was far enough in my scrollback that a few page ups didn't show it! |
| 19:21.24 | Yssaril | Cloudwolf: ever read through http://fara.webeddie.com/frames? i know its ancient but still usefull on page 13 he talks about sliders |
| 19:21.44 | Cloudwolf | never even hearda that site |
| 19:21.46 | alestane | Set the slider's min and max values to 0 and the scroll frame's scroll range. |
| 19:22.16 | Cloudwolf | hmm hes using xml |
| 19:22.16 | Yssaril | Cloudwolf: its a really old tutorial on how to deal with frames in wow |
| 19:22.19 | Cloudwolf | im doing lua |
| 19:22.35 | Yssaril | yea but everything that you see in xml has a lua equivilent :) |
| 19:22.48 | Cloudwolf | doesn't mean i can translate it back lol |
| 19:23.23 | Yssaril | :P |
| 19:23.45 | Cloudwolf | this is what im tyring to do to my sliders |
| 19:23.47 | Cloudwolf | *slider |
| 19:23.49 | Cloudwolf | atm |
| 19:23.51 | Cloudwolf | noteframe:SetScript("OnUpdate",function() slider:SetMinMaxValues(0,notefbg:GetVerticalScroll()) end) |
| 19:24.20 | Cloudwolf | derp i forgot range |
| 19:24.41 | Yssaril | why are you setting the minmax values on update? thats overkill right there only update them when they actually change |
| 19:24.43 | Cloudwolf | now it slides |
| 19:24.54 | Esamynn | XML Hater! |
| 19:25.06 | Cloudwolf | and how would i figure out when they change? |
| 19:25.18 | alestane | Also, don't do that on update. ScrollFrames have an OnScrollRangeChanged script. |
| 19:25.40 | Yssaril | ^^ |
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| 19:26.07 | Yssaril | and use OnValueChanged to catch when you actually slide |
| 19:26.30 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, ping |
| 19:27.01 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: pong |
| 19:27.04 | Yssaril | there is almost never a need for using an OnUpdate script |
| 19:27.43 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, since it's sponsored by canon there might be some good deals on canon accessories http://www.jr.com/product/productListing.jsp?N=4294329879&JRSource=chemail.techExpo.08272009 |
| 19:28.07 | Shirik | <3 |
| 19:28.39 | Thunder_Child | ^_^ |
| 19:29.35 | alestane | So, [[ notefbg:SetScript("OnScrollRangeChanged", function (self) slider:SetMinMaxValues(0, self:GetVerticalScrollRange()) end); slider:SetScript("OnValueChanged", function (self) notefbg:SetVerticalScroll(value) end) ]] or something of the kind. |
| 19:32.01 | Cloudwolf | what values to sliders contain? |
| 19:32.55 | Dewin | Is the author of the beta Curse Client around? I forget who it is :-/ |
| 19:33.12 | Yssaril | could the value of a slider is its position between the min and the max :) |
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| 19:33.25 | Cloudwolf | and i would get that how D: |
| 19:33.51 | Cloudwolf | GetVerticalScroll? |
| 19:34.01 | Yssaril | Cloudwolf: listen for the OnValueChanged changed event on yoru slider |
| 19:35.29 | Yssaril | Cloudwolf: or if you need to check it sometime else (when it didn't change) you can use Slider:GetValue() |
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| 19:38.58 | Cloudwolf | YAY! |
| 19:39.01 | Cloudwolf | omg i got the scroller to work |
| 19:39.03 | Cloudwolf | ty all! |
| 19:39.23 | Cloudwolf | now i gota figure out why the scroller has text saying high and low and why its directly on itself |
| 19:40.11 | Yssaril | hehe enjoy Cloudwolf |
| 19:41.56 | KarlKFI|work | what're you makign a sldier for? |
| 19:42.31 | Cloudwolf | note pad |
| 19:42.52 | Cloudwolf | any idea why it has text ont he slider that says high and low? |
| 19:43.24 | KarlKFI|work | are you using a template? |
| 19:43.37 | Cloudwolf | OptionsSliderTemplate |
| 19:43.48 | Cloudwolf | i need to find a giant list of allt he templates lol |
| 19:44.05 | KarlKFI|work | yeah. it defines name.."High" and name.."Low" |
| 19:44.06 | alestane | It's called FrameXML </flip> |
| 19:44.23 | Cloudwolf | called i odnt want to deal with xml lol |
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| 19:44.40 | KarlKFI|work | you're SoL then |
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| 19:44.50 | KarlKFI|work | just override the text |
| 19:45.06 | Cloudwolf | .... not sure what api overrides it |
| 19:45.20 | KarlKFI|work | ... |
| 19:45.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ~wowprogramming |
| 19:45.21 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons ~ http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob ~ a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 19:45.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Go read that |
| 19:45.46 | Cloudwolf | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Slider.... |
| 19:45.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I meant the http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob |
| 19:45.55 | KarlKFI|work | _G[slider:GetName().."High"]:SetText("Very high") prolly |
| 19:45.56 | Cloudwolf | ingore hte periods those were supposed to be after a space |
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| 19:46.23 | KarlKFI|work | unless your slider doesn't HAVE a name in which case you shouldn't use that template :P |
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| 19:47.42 | Cloudwolf | ty karl |
| 19:47.52 | Cloudwolf | just changed the settext from very high to "" |
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| 19:57.13 | Lopeppeppy | ttfn, beautiful people |
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| 19:57.45 | Thunder_Child | i wonder who she could have been talking about....since it isnt anyone in the channel |
| 19:58.11 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: just because you're ugly as sin, doesn't mean the rest of us are |
| 19:58.42 | mikma | cute |
| 19:58.51 | Shirik | Can anyone confirm for me that "hidable" is really a word? |
| 19:58.59 | Shirik | dictionary.com says it is, but all my word processors says it is not |
| 19:59.02 | Esamynn | sounds fine to me |
| 19:59.03 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, no it doesnt mean it...but it's still true |
| 19:59.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: the GIL still exists in the newest versions of python, fwiw |
| 19:59.16 | mikma | ~dict hidable |
| 19:59.35 | Cloudwolf | time to figure out how i broke the parenting |
| 20:00.06 | SyKoHPaTh | variant of "hitable"? |
| 20:00.24 | Thunder_Child | i thought it was something that could be hid |
| 20:00.27 | Thunder_Child | or hidden |
| 20:02.02 | Shirik | what Thunder_Child said |
| 20:02.48 | zenzelezz | doesn't Samba have a lot of "writable" etc. config options that just alias to "writeable" etc.? |
| 20:02.57 | zenzelezz | those words always confuse me anyway |
| 20:03.00 | Shirik | well point is |
| 20:03.05 | Shirik | neither hidable nor hideable work in Word |
| 20:03.14 | Shirik | hidable is indicated as a word by ONE dictionary on dictionary.com |
| 20:06.36 | Cloudwolf | hmm i can only scale one element with this scale thing D: |
| 20:08.42 | Cloudwolf | how would i end up scaling 2 elements at once? |
| 20:09.50 | Cloudwolf | if i put both of them in to my OnMouseDown and OnMouseUp function it only scales the first one |
| 20:09.57 | Cloudwolf | and ignores the second one |
| 20:11.33 | zenzelezz | grumbles |
| 20:12.06 | zenzelezz | why won't this stupid view have the right size when initialized... it's like it's deliberately ignoring my coordinates |
| 20:12.19 | Cloudwolf | hmm and after scaling it breaks the parenting O.o |
| 20:14.59 | Cloudwolf | http://www.pastey.net/123499 can any one figure out why it breaks the parenting between notefbg and its parent titlef after scaling? (scaling is at verry bottom) |
| 20:17.15 | Thunder_Child | hmm...i have a trive transfering data at < 4mb/s i do believe it is dying |
| 20:17.25 | Thunder_Child | s/trive/drive/ |
| 20:18.25 | Cloudwolf | does any one know why scaling an elment will break it from its parent and why i can't scale 2 elements at the same time? |
| 20:19.00 | kdtresh | is the child element anchored to the parent, or does it have its own dimensions? |
| 20:19.12 | Cloudwolf | http://www.pastey.net/123499 |
| 20:19.26 | Cloudwolf | i gave its own dimensions but i did anchor a point to the parent |
| 20:19.51 | Cloudwolf | titlef is the parent of notefbg |
| 20:20.00 | Cloudwolf | notefbg after scaling breaks away from its parent |
| 20:20.05 | Cloudwolf | also i can't scale both of them at the same time |
| 20:22.27 | foxlit | Looking at that code makes baby brains cry. Wru, XML? :( |
| 20:23.24 | Cloudwolf | xml can go bite me... |
| 20:23.32 | *** join/#wowuidev leizeQ (n=rasto_bo@195.91.89.128) |
| 20:23.32 | kdtresh | xml is simple |
| 20:23.57 | kdtresh | it's just a matter of finding the right tags to use |
| 20:24.40 | Cloudwolf | and to try and be able to access the info from it into lua... |
| 20:24.45 | Cloudwolf | to me it feels like more work... because then i have to learn another syntax... |
| 20:25.06 | kdtresh | there's not much in the way of syntax, it's all just open/close tags |
| 20:25.59 | kdtresh | i should probably shut up though, my knowledge of xml and lua aren't that great |
| 20:26.13 | kdtresh | but if i can learn it, i'm sure you can |
| 20:27.01 | Cloudwolf | yeah im sure i could.... it just seems like it would make it more of a hassle to switch between the two and figure out hooking into eachothers functions... |
| 20:27.24 | Cloudwolf | but no one can tell me why it kills the parenting? and why i can't scale two elements at once? |
| 20:28.58 | leizeQ | anyway, is there a preferred way how to create addons ... lua only, xml only, mix them ... ? |
| 20:29.35 | mikma | http://22.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_koe5jooUuv1qzc4eao1_500.gif |
| 20:30.40 | mikma | http://10.media.tumblr.com/hzcpHGYzFnwn87ebNtFsnQSgo1_500.gif :D |
| 20:30.57 | foxlit | Hm. I wonder if I can ignore mikma's lines that contain .gif |
| 20:31.09 | mikma | whyyy, they are good! |
| 20:31.10 | foxlit | Hah, win, I can. |
| 20:33.15 | mikma | foxlit sucks donkeyballs .gif |
| 20:33.28 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:33.48 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.geekologie.com/2009/08/i_cant_ever_get_enough_kitty_o.php |
| 20:33.53 | foxlit | of course, you'd have to be smarter than my regex :) |
| 20:34.36 | mikma | foxlit_sucks_donkeyballs.gif |
| 20:36.09 | Cairenn | mikma: hehehe |
| 20:36.37 | Cloudwolf | lack of any idea of why scaling breaks parenting is overwhelming lol |
| 20:37.06 | alestane | After you scale, does :GetParent() actually change for the other frame? |
| 20:37.09 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2009/08/another_literal_music_video_be.php |
| 20:38.25 | Cloudwolf | is htere a printtable function? |
| 20:38.46 | alestane | Not built in, no. |
| 20:38.53 | alestane | But easy enough to write. |
| 20:39.02 | Cloudwolf | for k,v in pair blah blah blah |
| 20:39.17 | alestane | Actually, you could probably feed it to one of the functions in dump.lua. |
| 20:41.41 | *** join/#wowuidev Random (n=Denial@unaffiliated/windaria) |
| 20:41.45 | Cloudwolf | now its printing userdata.... |
| 20:41.47 | Cloudwolf | wtf |
| 20:42.00 | Cloudwolf | any way its the same userdata number |
| 20:42.00 | Cloudwolf | same witht he table |
| 20:42.25 | ScytheBlade1 | anyone know offhand how to save the screen buffer to a file? |
| 20:42.30 | alestane | Every widget contains a userdata that identifies it to the graphic engine. |
| 20:42.35 | Fisker | btw Cairenn |
| 20:42.35 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbFjePdOpK8 |
| 20:42.52 | Cairenn | I laughed my ass off at that |
| 20:43.24 | Cloudwolf | well the userdata doesn't change i dont think |
| 20:43.28 | Cloudwolf | between scaling and not scaling |
| 20:43.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Cloudwolf: you can't change the userdata |
| 20:45.09 | Cloudwolf | well then is there any reason for the parenting to break??? |
| 20:45.16 | Cloudwolf | or am i just fucked.... |
| 20:45.18 | alestane | Before you try scaling, use :GetParent() on the thing you think is breaking off and save it in a variable, then use :GetParent again afterward and compare the two. If it's not changing, than it's not breaking the parenting (although it could be affecting anchoring). |
| 20:45.51 | alestane | Cairenn: Did you go to that panel? |
| 20:45.57 | Cairenn | yes |
| 20:46.04 | Cairenn | it was hilarious |
| 20:46.06 | ScytheBlade1 | that |
| 20:46.07 | ScytheBlade1 | wow |
| 20:46.08 | Cairenn | especially that question |
| 20:46.38 | ScytheBlade1 | the crowd reaction was great |
| 20:46.43 | ScytheBlade1 | her realization was even better |
| 20:47.08 | Cairenn | it isn't a fair question to ask, though |
| 20:47.25 | alestane | Yes, her face is priceless, and the gasped question that her mike barely picks up. |
| 20:47.40 | mikma | dear lard, again with that crap |
| 20:47.45 | ScytheBlade1 | no, the person who asked that should be shot |
| 20:47.49 | Cairenn | what if you don't have a carpet? what if you go with a hardwood floor? |
| 20:47.58 | *** part/#wowuidev stolenlegacy (n=stolenle@d86-32-24-74.cust.tele2.at) |
| 20:48.06 | alestane | It isn't really a question in my experience...it's more a way of telling someone, "I'm thinking about your crotch." |
| 20:48.07 | ScytheBlade1 | luckily |
| 20:48.09 | ScytheBlade1 | EDIT: Yes, the person who asked the question is myself, Essay on Tichondrius. |
| 20:48.11 | alestane | Cairenn: ROFL! |
| 20:48.14 | ScytheBlade1 | we know exactly who it was |
| 20:48.22 | *** join/#wowuidev stolenlegacy (n=stolenle@d86-32-24-74.cust.tele2.at) |
| 20:48.26 | Cloudwolf | well the table still says its the same |
| 20:48.36 | mikma | i personally dont like felicia, and i am proud of it. |
| 20:49.01 | Cairenn | she's actually a pretty nice person |
| 20:49.04 | Dagmar | mikma: It's okay. We won't think badly of you for being gay. |
| 20:49.09 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, bare floor, hardwood floor has a different connotation |
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| 20:49.19 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: whatever ;) |
| 20:49.26 | mikma | dagmar: i like my wife more than being gay, but thanks for asking |
| 20:49.37 | nevcairiel | I guess i have to have been an american teenager to know those "connotations" |
| 20:49.48 | Dagmar | She must be a really nice woman to accept you like that. |
| 20:50.00 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, be careful, you never know when you might ask for something but getting something else.... |
| 20:50.16 | mikma | dagmar: i am flattered that you think me as gay, but no thanks |
| 20:50.33 | mikma | dagmar: theres other men here that might like you tho |
| 20:51.03 | Dagmar | Well, you're the one who said he has something against a stranger--and Felicia at that. |
| 20:51.11 | Dagmar | Somethin's wrong with ya' |
| 20:51.25 | mikma | nothing wrong, i just dont like her |
| 20:51.34 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: edumacated myself |
| 20:51.45 | Cairenn | you're right, different connotations |
| 20:52.46 | alestane | Now, had "Vork" said "hardwood floor" (or something similar) instead of "blinds", I think the audience would have totally lost it. |
| 20:52.57 | Cairenn | heh |
| 20:53.01 | alestane | Of course, I also think Felicia would have killed him. |
| 20:53.20 | Dagmar | Wait a minit... Is there a new ep of the guild up or something? |
| 20:53.27 | Cairenn | no |
| 20:53.48 | Cairenn | during the panel at the 'con, someone asked her if the carpet matched the blinds |
| 20:53.56 | NightHawkTheSan1 | there is if you're something like an xbox live subscriber or whatnot |
| 20:53.57 | Cloudwolf | fixed that part of my problem |
| 20:54.00 | Dagmar | The "blinds"? |
| 20:54.02 | Cloudwolf | now i gota figure out how to scale multiple things at once |
| 20:54.21 | Cairenn | dagmar - aka is that your natural hair colour |
| 20:54.35 | alestane | What they actually asked her was whether the carpet matched the curtains...but someone made the comment that he thought she had blinds. |
| 20:54.36 | mikma | cloudwolf: shit1:SetScale, shit2:SetScale .. |
| 20:54.37 | Dagmar | The phrase is "carpet matches the drapes" |
| 20:54.52 | Cairenn | Dagmar: that's the way I've always heard it |
| 20:54.55 | Dagmar | Jesus we gotta get these people outta the freaking house more often. |
| 20:54.55 | Cloudwolf | uhh mikma im trying to do it with dragging |
| 20:55.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not sure how else she could have taken the question though |
| 20:55.22 | Cloudwolf | scalef:SetScript("OnMouseDown",function(self) notefbg:StartSizing() end) |
| 20:55.27 | Dagmar | Cairenn: Drapes are typically colored to (or chosen to) match drapes. |
| 20:55.32 | Dagmar | Blinds are typically just white. |
| 20:55.37 | Cloudwolf | this only supports using one thing to scale |
| 20:55.37 | Dagmar | Trust me it's drapes |
| 20:55.43 | foxlit | Drapes match drapes. |
| 20:55.45 | Kraps | Dagmar: carpet |
| 20:55.48 | foxlit | Exciting new development. |
| 20:56.00 | Cairenn | Dagmar: as I said, that's the way I've always heard it, too - someone else said blinds, not me |
| 20:56.00 | mikma | cloudwolf: you can add several frames there? |
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| 20:56.23 | Kraps | why would that guy ask that? |
| 20:56.25 | Cloudwolf | >.< that would be a pain in the ass to use 10 differnt individual scaling frames for each litlte elment |
| 20:56.26 | Dagmar | Cairenn: well, they got the euphemism wrong. I suspect from a lack of familiarity with women. |
| 20:56.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: to be a prick |
| 20:56.34 | Cloudwolf | and even then you wouldn't be able to keep it in proportion |
| 20:56.44 | Dagmar | However, if anyone wants to know the answer to that question, I'd like to volunteer myself to find out. |
| 20:56.45 | mikma | cloudwolf: add them in a table and use the table |
| 20:57.31 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Dagmar: maybe its more a lack of familiarity with interior decoration? :P (although you're probably ALSO correct) |
| 20:57.38 | Kraps | ScytheBlade1: i'm sure he was very pricky at that time |
| 20:57.58 | Cloudwolf | well i just found a hackey way it doenst look clean though D: |
| 20:58.03 | ScytheBlade1 | .... not *quite* what I meant |
| 20:58.07 | Kraps | not that i blame him tbh |
| 20:58.14 | alestane | I strongly suspect that he just wanted to go down in con history as the person who had the gall to ask that. |
| 20:58.20 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSan1: I half get the feeling someone wanted to say something tacky and publicly express their heterosexual affiliation at the same time, but failed miserably |
| 20:58.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, 15 minutes of fame |
| 20:58.44 | Dagmar | It'd take me longer than 15 minutes to be sure. heh |
| 20:58.47 | MentalPower | Thunder_Child: ok, I'll bite, whats the diff? |
| 20:59.12 | Cairenn | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hardwood+floor |
| 20:59.23 | MentalPower | ofc urban dict would know... |
| 20:59.28 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Dagmar: probably true. |
| 20:59.32 | MentalPower | should've thought about it |
| 20:59.50 | Dagmar | You should really warn people when links aren't safe for sentient life |
| 21:00.14 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSan1: I'm sure of it. I played Trombone in high school and college |
| 21:00.37 | Cairenn | Dagmar: it's urbandictionary, that alone should have been your NSFW link |
| 21:00.46 | Cairenn | s/link/warning/ |
| 21:00.53 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Dagmar: ah, fair enough. ;) |
| 21:01.06 | Dagmar | I'd have felt uncomfortable lookin' at that at home hehe |
| 21:01.32 | mikma | cairenn: how do you transmute triangle into a line segment? |
| 21:02.22 | Cairenn | ? |
| 21:02.39 | mikma | cairenn: by shaving the hair off |
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| 21:02.47 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 21:03.02 | Dagmar | What's terrifying is that I think there's a science-oriented answer for htat |
| 21:03.15 | *** join/#wowuidev dustin_ (n=dustin@rrcs-71-42-217-69.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 21:03.25 | Kraps | mikma: 2 right angles, 1 circle, requires 350 physics to craft |
| 21:04.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I forsee some kicks starting to fly |
| 21:05.52 | Cairenn | is too sick to bother |
| 21:06.01 | Cairenn | :) |
| 21:06.05 | ScytheBlade1 | pass me a +o then ;) |
| 21:06.27 | Kraps | is that a vagina? |
| 21:06.28 | Dagmar | taps out the old channel modes |
| 21:06.28 | mikma | i am 98% sure no-one understood my joke |
| 21:06.35 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I got it |
| 21:06.48 | mikma | ok, 96% |
| 21:06.59 | Cairenn | I got it, just chose to ignore it |
| 21:07.14 | Cloudwolf | why would 2 frames anchored via both topleft grow in opposite directions? |
| 21:07.26 | NeoTron | they don't like eachother |
| 21:07.39 | Cloudwolf | lol i guess |
| 21:07.46 | mikma | chose to ignore it! hehehee |
| 21:07.51 | NeoTron | highly technical answer |
| 21:07.55 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: need some help relaxing? ;-o |
| 21:08.12 | mikma | perfect way to relax: /quit |
| 21:08.14 | Cloudwolf | it seems one grows from the center and the other grows from the top left corner |
| 21:08.27 | mikma | cloudwolf: where have you anchored them? |
| 21:08.51 | Cloudwolf | titlef:SetPoint("TopLeft",nil,GetScreenWidth()*.5,GetScreenHeight()*.5) |
| 21:09.01 | Cloudwolf | notefbg:SetPoint("TopLeft",titlef,"BottomLeft") |
| 21:09.37 | mikma | how about you anchor them both from same point, like center |
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| 21:10.20 | Cloudwolf | isn't center like quite literaly the exact center of hte frame? |
| 21:10.27 | Cloudwolf | unless thers a TopCenter and a BottomCenter |
| 21:10.33 | Cloudwolf | im not sure that will work for what i need |
| 21:12.05 | Cloudwolf | it doens't matte rjsut looks ugly |
| 21:12.07 | Cloudwolf | bbl |
| 21:13.05 | Thunder_Child | "if i wanted to get it on with refracted light i would" |
| 21:13.07 | Dagmar | Wow... Those Ally Bank commercials just became even more delicious for me. |
| 21:13.12 | Kraps | what does this mean http://notalwaysright.com/911-grab-bag-define-emergency/79 |
| 21:13.22 | Dagmar | Those kids thought they were there for market research. |
| 21:13.41 | Dagmar | Those looks of betrayal, loss, and heartfelt hurt are real. :) |
| 21:13.55 | Thunder_Child | Kraps, it means that people called 911 not for an emergency but random questions |
| 21:14.09 | Tepel | Which can be considered an emergancy |
| 21:14.15 | Tepel | after all, it's all relative |
| 21:14.17 | Dagmar | Only if you're a f**king idiot. |
| 21:14.18 | Thunder_Child | not one that police respond to |
| 21:14.20 | Dagmar | ...which many people are. |
| 21:14.24 | Kraps | what i meant was: what does this mean for the human race? |
| 21:14.31 | Tepel | Idiocracy |
| 21:14.37 | Thunder_Child | oh, nothing more than it already did |
| 21:14.44 | Dagmar | Some ignorant bitch called 911 here because the fast food place was out of Chicken McNuggers |
| 21:14.51 | Esamynn | ... |
| 21:14.54 | Thunder_Child | Humans. Are. Stupid. |
| 21:14.56 | Tepel | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/ |
| 21:15.48 | mikma | notalwaystrue.com |
| 21:16.36 | Esamynn | http://xkcd.com/603/ |
| 21:17.02 | bleeter | Adys: pong |
| 21:17.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (n=muffins@c-68-57-187-183.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 21:17.12 | bleeter | mmm would seem the world's gone crazy over the bacon bra today |
| 21:17.28 | Esamynn | the what? |
| 21:17.41 | Dagmar | Now to do some photoshop work with pics of that and Felicia Day |
| 21:17.52 | Esamynn | facepalms |
| 21:17.57 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 21:18.54 | Sesshu| | hello guys |
| 21:19.00 | Sesshu| | <3 |
| 21:19.04 | Cairenn | hi |
| 21:19.12 | Dagmar | Hmm... and yet I get two pm's requesting copies |
| 21:19.22 | Kraps | DO NOT PHOTOSHOP FELICIA DAY IN ANY WAY |
| 21:19.28 | Esamynn | ... |
| 21:19.32 | mikma | ADD MORE BACON |
| 21:19.41 | Kraps | DAMMIT |
| 21:19.47 | Sesshu| | omg |
| 21:21.09 | Esamynn | Sesshu: make up your damn mind! |
| 21:21.12 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (n=kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 21:21.12 | bleeter | Esamynn: two days ago, went searching for images of round bacon using google. found the 'bacon bra' image. So I put it on my facebook, tweeted about it... posted it in a couple of IRC chans. Now, it's all over thinkgeek, gizmodo etc. |
| 21:21.21 | mikma | PICK A NICK AND STICK WITH IT |
| 21:21.22 | Sesshu | only registering nicks |
| 21:21.31 | mikma | oh, capslock love |
| 21:21.35 | Sesshu | yay |
| 21:21.36 | Esamynn | ~lart mikma |
| 21:21.36 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on mikma and turns mikma into a brick |
| 21:21.46 | Esamynn | yay |
| 21:21.52 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 21:21.52 | purl | :), Esamynn |
| 21:22.00 | Kraps | i cant see the nick changes... |
| 21:22.13 | Esamynn | ~gag Kraps |
| 21:22.14 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of Kraps and, as an additional precaution, sews Kraps's mouth shut permanently... |
| 21:22.26 | Kraps | MMMFHHFFFF |
| 21:22.28 | Adys | bleeter: ping |
| 21:22.47 | Sesshu | ~ping |
| 21:22.48 | purl | ~pong |
| 21:22.48 | Esamynn | much better |
| 21:22.56 | Esamynn | ~pong |
| 21:22.57 | purl | ~ping |
| 21:23.06 | mikma | ~tryme |
| 21:23.07 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at mikma and fires. Click. |
| 21:23.23 | Esamynn | living dangerously, huh? |
| 21:23.53 | mikma | ya |
| 21:24.00 | mikma | try it, you might... |
| 21:24.06 | Kraps | Customer: âHello, Iâd like to return this gas cookerâ¦â |
| 21:24.07 | Kraps | Me: âSure, whatâs the problem with it, madam?â |
| 21:24.09 | Kraps | Customer: âThe picture on the front of the box shows meat, although when I opened the box there was no meat insideâ¦â |
| 21:24.11 | Kraps | Me: *In astonishment* âOkay, Iâll just go and get my managerâ¦â |
| 21:24.34 | Tepel | Clearly the meat was stolen! |
| 21:24.40 | Esamynn | clearly... |
| 21:24.56 | Dagmar | They should call the manufacturer. I'm sure they'd be willing to ship out replacement meat |
| 21:27.24 | Yssaril | is there a blizzard fucntion that turns seconds into hours, min, sec? |
| 21:27.28 | NightHawkTheSan1 | this long and no lewd meat jokes? I'm ashamed. |
| 21:27.56 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Yssaril: basic math and string.format? :P |
| 21:28.02 | Esamynn | I remember there being one, yes |
| 21:28.17 | Tepel | Just play the game, the seconds turn into minutes which turn into hours |
| 21:28.29 | Tepel | Or is that just me? |
| 21:28.35 | Esamynn | ~slap Tepel |
| 21:28.36 | purl | ACTION slaps Tepel, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 21:28.41 | Tepel | It was funny though :) |
| 21:28.50 | NightHawkTheSan1 | its jsut you, my seconds stay the same. but there do seem to be a LOT of them after a while |
| 21:28.57 | Esamynn | hmm, not entirely appropriate |
| 21:29.06 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ~lart Tepel |
| 21:29.06 | purl | does a little 'dpkg -P Tepel' action |
| 21:29.14 | NightHawkTheSan1 | more what you were hoping for? |
| 21:29.15 | Esamynn | ~bzfrag NightHawkTheSan1 |
| 21:29.16 | purl | ACTION makes NightHawkTheSan1 feel the effects of a shockwave |
| 21:29.25 | NightHawkTheSan1 | or.. ow.. that. |
| 21:29.29 | Esamynn | nah, more like |
| 21:29.34 | Esamynn | ~whaleslap NightHawkTheSan1 |
| 21:29.35 | purl | ACTION beats NightHawkTheSan1 upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 21:29.41 | NightHawkTheSan1 | :( |
| 21:29.44 | Tepel | Why Hugh? |
| 21:29.51 | Esamynn | ~whalenuke Tepel |
| 21:29.52 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Tepel with his mind powers. |
| 21:30.01 | Tepel | heh |
| 21:30.18 | Adys | I just found the pendant of myzrael |
| 21:30.21 | mikma | yssaril: blizz has one but its local |
| 21:30.25 | Adys | Ive been looking for it for over 3 years |
| 21:30.42 | Yssaril | k will just make my own |
| 21:30.50 | Kraps | ~BZFRAG |
| 21:30.58 | Kraps | ~BZFRAG you |
| 21:30.59 | purl | ACTION skewers you with a super bullet |
| 21:31.31 | mikma | tekkub: http://www.mybadpad.com/fun-stuff/the-baconcyclopedia-the-ultimate-bacon-reference-of-baconic-proportions |
| 21:31.32 | Tepel | by the by, does anyone know an addon that revamps the merchant interface into something of a list? |
| 21:31.48 | NightHawkTheSan1 | GnomishVendorShrinker? |
| 21:32.05 | NightHawkTheSan1 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14425-GnomishVendorShrinker.html |
| 21:32.22 | Bruners | GVS <3 |
| 21:32.35 | Tepel | neeto |
| 21:32.42 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i'm more fond of GnomishAuctionShrinker, but they're both awesome :) |
| 21:33.05 | Esamynn | ~kill Kraps |
| 21:33.05 | purl | ACTION shoots a ionized anti-neutron gun at Kraps |
| 21:33.25 | NightHawkTheSan1 | poor purl, always used as a proxy for other people's violence. |
| 21:33.26 | Dagmar | The honor vendors with their pages and pages of items would definitely be handy as a list |
| 21:33.28 | Kraps | WTF Esamynn |
| 21:33.48 | Kraps | I RESENT THIS VIOLENCE AGAINST ME |
| 21:34.22 | NightHawkTheSan1 | s/nt/mble/ |
| 21:34.31 | mikma | tekkub: http://www.mybadpad.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/bacon-dispenser.jpg =DD |
| 21:34.44 | tekkub | yea I've seen it :) |
| 21:34.48 | Esamynn | ~cheeseslap Kraps |
| 21:34.48 | purl | ACTION slaps Kraps around with a slice of edam |
| 21:34.52 | Esamynn | Kraps: better? |
| 21:35.06 | Sesshu | sheeseslap? wtf? |
| 21:35.37 | Esamynn | ~fishslap Sesshu |
| 21:35.38 | purl | ACTION slaps Sesshu up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 21:35.41 | Sesshu | the guy who make purl must has been crazy |
| 21:35.48 | Sesshu | made* |
| 21:36.01 | mikma | tekkub: the "enjoy bacon" is new one to me =D |
| 21:36.01 | Sesshu | uhm |
| 21:36.40 | Sesshu | ~help |
| 21:36.41 | *** join/#wowuidev Aiiane (n=Aiiane@starfire.ST.HMC.Edu) |
| 21:36.57 | Kraps | heres a new type of drama: arenas! http://www.arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?t=111344&page=1 |
| 21:37.07 | Sesshu | omg purl is spaming me |
| 21:37.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik (i=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 21:37.45 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 21:39.34 | Sesshu | ~1+1 |
| 21:39.34 | purl | well, 1+1 is 3 for large values of 1 |
| 21:39.35 | mikma | http://www.mybadpad.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/bacon-porkgasm.jpg |
| 21:39.59 | Kraps | large values of 1? |
| 21:40.01 | Shirik | why exactly are the cheapest units of currency also the most expensive to make? |
| 21:40.13 | NightHawkTheSan1 | inflation |
| 21:40.15 | Kraps | Shirik: US penny |
| 21:40.25 | Kraps | oh missread |
| 21:40.28 | Shirik | the only currency where we use metal are coins, which are typically < $1 |
| 21:40.29 | NightHawkTheSan1 | he said why, not what. reading is good |
| 21:40.57 | Shirik | there is no $1000 coin |
| 21:41.15 | Shirik | why don't we just make $0.01 bills? |
| 21:41.17 | Sesshu | ~pi |
| 21:41.18 | purl | rumour has it, pi is 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 |
| 21:41.22 | Shirik | It sure would fit better in a register |
| 21:41.25 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Shirik: would you want to carry one? |
| 21:41.33 | Shirik | I don't carry pennies either |
| 21:41.35 | Shirik | what's the difference |
| 21:41.42 | Kraps | i read that we would save millions (billions?) of dollars if we got rid of bills and only used coins |
| 21:41.43 | NightHawkTheSan1 | exactly. |
| 21:41.43 | Shirik | I would rather carry a $0.01 bill than a penny |
| 21:41.52 | NightHawkTheSan1 | why dont we just cut out all currency < $1? |
| 21:42.05 | Fisker | no Kraps |
| 21:42.06 | Fisker | no. |
| 21:42.08 | Shirik | because then the gas stations would never be able to do their .009 |
| 21:42.09 | Shirik | crap |
| 21:42.22 | Kraps | Fisker: why no? |
| 21:42.26 | foxlit | Shirik: sure they could. Round to nearest. |
| 21:42.33 | mikma | ~bi |
| 21:42.34 | purl | rumour has it, bi is what happens when jzm meens to type 'vi'. Burundi |
| 21:42.38 | Dagmar | If there were no pennies, what would people throw at the homeless? |
| 21:42.39 | foxlit | Kraps: it's problematic to verify authentic coinage |
| 21:42.40 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Shirik: yeah, cause what we need is to listen to fucking corporations |
| 21:42.41 | Esamynn | damnit Sesshu, you broke wrapping on my screen |
| 21:42.46 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Dagmar: rocks. |
| 21:42.47 | Esamynn | ~lart Sesshu |
| 21:42.47 | purl | explains, ever so gently, that if Sesshu doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help |
| 21:42.53 | Sesshu | mwhahaha |
| 21:42.56 | Esamynn | bah |
| 21:42.59 | Fisker | not even a smile Kraps |
| 21:43.01 | Fisker | well actually |
| 21:43.04 | Esamynn | ~stab Sesshu |
| 21:43.04 | purl | ACTION runs at Sesshu with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 21:43.05 | Fisker | a small smile when he got hacked |
| 21:43.15 | Kraps | he? |
| 21:43.18 | Kraps | what? |
| 21:43.22 | Dagmar | who got hacked? |
| 21:43.50 | Dagmar | clears his throat and warms up his pointing finger. |
| 21:43.57 | Shirik | is there like .01 yen? |
| 21:43.59 | Kraps | Fisker got hacked |
| 21:44.02 | Fisker | the guy in that arena thread |
| 21:44.03 | Shirik | or is everything in integral yens |
| 21:44.28 | Dagmar | points and laughs at Fisker |
| 21:44.35 | Kraps | oh i didnt read that |
| 21:44.37 | Esamynn | ~lart Dagmar |
| 21:44.37 | purl | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at Dagmar |
| 21:44.42 | Kraps | yet |
| 21:44.42 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i think yen's inflated so much its all at least integral |
| 21:45.02 | Shirik | what you talking about |
| 21:45.05 | Shirik | it's only like 130 to a dollar |
| 21:45.10 | Dagmar | discretely inquires whether or not purl got a better deal on his hockey mask |
| 21:45.23 | Shirik | oh wow, 93 yen |
| 21:45.24 | Shirik | wtf |
| 21:45.28 | Shirik | our economy has gone to shit |
| 21:45.32 | Shirik | I remember when it was 130 |
| 21:45.45 | Dagmar | I've been sitting here watching an Ally Bank commerical on loop until it stops being funny. A hockey mask isn't gonna cut it |
| 21:46.03 | Shirik | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/32572898#32572898 |
| 21:46.04 | Kraps | Shirik>our economy has gone to shit WHAT??? WHO GAVE YOU THAT IDEA? |
| 21:46.09 | bleeter | "The Soapier people and their bacon soap also accidentally have invented BACON SCENTED BUBBLE WRAP! OMGWIN! " lolol |
| 21:46.22 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Shirik: according to wikipedia, there hasn't been a smaller unit of currency than the 'yen' since 1953 |
| 21:46.26 | NightHawkTheSan1 | but there was at one point |
| 21:46.56 | Dagmar | Good thing ther's no one yen coins |
| 21:47.20 | Dagmar | ...or perhaps they could just embed RFID tags into grains of rice and use those |
| 21:47.36 | NightHawkTheSan1 | actually, i think there are one yen coins >.> |
| 21:47.45 | NightHawkTheSan1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_yen |
| 21:47.57 | Sesshu | ~md5 Sesshu |
| 21:48.02 | Sesshu | ! |
| 21:48.02 | NightHawkTheSan1 | looks like they have 1, 5, 10, 50, 100, and 500 yen coins |
| 21:48.26 | NightHawkTheSan1 | this article is pretty fascinating |
| 21:48.28 | mikma | ~rot13 for me to poop on |
| 21:48.29 | purl | sbe zr gb cbbc ba |
| 21:49.00 | Esamynn | ~gag mikma |
| 21:49.01 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of mikma and, as an additional precaution, sews mikma's mouth shut permanently... |
| 21:49.27 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSan1: Iv'e got a few. I was just being a smartass |
| 21:49.43 | Sesshu | ~hello |
| 21:49.44 | purl | Howdy Bub |
| 21:49.46 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Dagmar: *shrug* hard to tell, and i had no idea either way. :P |
| 21:49.52 | mikma | esamynn has found a new toy! |
| 21:49.53 | Dagmar | Like, as crazy as it is that we make pennies out of about four cents worth of metals, the Japanese are in much worse shape |
| 21:50.01 | Esamynn | mikma: hardly |
| 21:50.12 | mikma | likely |
| 21:50.39 | Bruners | what was the name of that addon that does battleground timers? not dbm |
| 21:51.10 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Capping/ |
| 21:51.11 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ? |
| 21:51.15 | Bruners | thats the one |
| 21:51.22 | mikma | Capping is the only one now |
| 21:51.25 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:51.31 | NightHawkTheSan1 | man, i'm so on top of this shit today. |
| 21:51.49 | mikma | shadowed decided to stop maintaining sspvp3 =/ |
| 21:51.54 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSan1: you're getting old, eh? |
| 21:52.09 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i totally am |
| 21:52.44 | Shirik | bleeter :/ |
| 21:52.56 | Shirik | ps -u fisker -o "pid=" | xargs kill -9 |
| 21:53.12 | Shirik | you and your strange subcommands |
| 21:53.21 | foxlit | Sheesh. |
| 21:53.25 | foxlit | "killall Fisker" |
| 21:53.35 | Shirik | not the same :P |
| 21:53.35 | mikma | bleeter: dd if=/dev/null of=fisker |
| 21:53.35 | foxlit | (a) Short (b) more meaningful. |
| 21:53.50 | Shirik | kilall is process name, ps -u is owner of process :P |
| 21:54.42 | Sesshu | dunno what youre talking about oO |
| 21:54.50 | foxlit | Clearly killing all Fiskers is more useful than killing all of Fisker's processes. |
| 21:55.12 | End | killall -u fisker |
| 21:55.18 | Sesshu | hi end |
| 21:55.22 | End | hi |
| 21:55.27 | Dagmar | Get the evil out at the toor |
| 21:55.52 | foxlit | -m . |
| 21:56.03 | Kraps | "Why does casual !#%@ers even play this game?? Go play some age of empires ish thing instead of making such a hassle about gear your not even worth. " |
| 21:56.19 | Esamynn | ~lart Kraps |
| 21:56.19 | purl | beats Kraps to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 21:56.30 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 21:56.30 | purl | Esamynn: :) |
| 21:56.32 | Dagmar | Kraps: I don't suppose they get irony in that little hick town he's possting from the basement of |
| 21:58.45 | bleeter | I only have one question for you so called unix experts... how long have killall and xargs been part of POSIX? ;) |
| 21:59.24 | Pneumatus | i thought killall was proprietary :o |
| 22:00.09 | End | are backticks in POSIX? |
| 22:00.27 | Esamynn | bleeter: is this a pop quiz? |
| 22:01.10 | Shirik | bleeter, who cares about POSIX |
| 22:01.14 | mikma | !g killall posix |
| 22:01.15 | batbot | mikma: POSIX kill and killall for Windows 7 « Honeymonster's Lair <http://www.thehoneymonster.net/2009/08/kill-and-killall-for-windows/> |
| 22:01.16 | foxlit | And here was I thinking POSIX specified APIs and not applications |
| 22:01.23 | mikma | windows 7? |
| 22:01.31 | Kraps | some things on the net make you say "oh my gosh" out loud; see the OP http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/19377457336-blue-responses-should-be-helpful-bornakk.html |
| 22:01.37 | Dagmar | It specifies a lot of stuff you didn't know about |
| 22:01.37 | End | POSIX specifies a lot of things |
| 22:01.58 | Dagmar | ...although frankly I think it was fairly meddlesome for them to have specified which letters should be used for what command line arguments. |
| 22:02.03 | Shirik | btw, bleeter, xargs is in POSIX according to my searches |
| 22:02.03 | *** join/#wowuidev kol` (n=tim@c-76-19-135-87.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 22:02.04 | *** join/#wowuidev BWMerlin (n=chatzill@58.174.148.250) |
| 22:02.11 | Shirik | ISO POSIX-2:1993 |
| 22:02.25 | NightHawkTheSan1 | POSIX specifies your MOM |
| 22:02.52 | foxlit | POSIX_ME_HARDER, NightHawkTheSan1. |
| 22:04.00 | bleeter | Shirik: I knew you'd search ;) |
| 22:04.40 | bleeter | Shirik: what about 1988? |
| 22:04.55 | Shirik | tonight we gonna party like it's 1999 |
| 22:05.05 | mikma | again? damnit |
| 22:05.10 | Sesshu | lol |
| 22:05.10 | End | I party like its 2009 |
| 22:05.18 | foxlit | It's already tomorrow. |
| 22:05.26 | Sesshu | 2010 is better than 2009 |
| 22:05.40 | mikma | !g 2012 |
| 22:05.40 | batbot | mikma: 2012 - Official Movie Site <http://whowillsurvive2012.com/> |
| 22:09.38 | Shirik | I will survive! |
| 22:09.53 | Legorol | you are not prepared |
| 22:10.53 | Dagmar | Well, if Y2K was any indication, a lot of people will die just before 2012 |
| 22:11.05 | Dagmar | Because I'm going to f**kin' murder them for annoying me about it |
| 22:12.31 | Kraps | THAT MUSTA HURT http://img40.imageshack.us/i/1226262330310.gif/ |
| 22:12.43 | foxlit | If only Mayans had 64-bit integers, this disaster could've been avoided. |
| 22:13.29 | Sesshu | (Kraps): yes that hurts |
| 22:13.41 | Dagmar | So many lives, wasted |
| 22:14.12 | Dagmar | "OMG SOME GUYS WHO LIVE NEKKED IN THE JUNGLE SED THE WORLD WOULD END AT 2012!" |
| 22:14.36 | Shirik | sed -e s/world// |
| 22:15.04 | Dagmar | I'm not certain about this, but I think that perhaps the scientific community at large really isn't getting much input they can use from the grass-skirt wearing, jungle dwelling crowd. |
| 22:15.08 | malreth | "The director of such shitty movies as Independence Day and The Day After Tomorrow brings you his latest piece of shit movie" |
| 22:15.31 | KarlKFI|work | hay, don't hate Independence Day |
| 22:15.37 | *** join/#wowuidev TC-Away (n=TC@WoWUIDev/PITA/TC) |
| 22:15.42 | Kraps | ^ |
| 22:15.48 | KarlKFI|work | you know you love all those one liners |
| 22:15.58 | Esamynn | KarlKFI|work: hay is for horses |
| 22:16.08 | bleeter | http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/08/28/2669286.htm lol Bernanke's had his ID stolen |
| 22:16.13 | KarlKFI|work | "Welcome to Earth" *face punch* |
| 22:16.28 | Dagmar | s/Earth/Earff/; |
| 22:16.43 | malreth | in bed, my wife loves to say, "Oh no, you did not just shoot that green shit at me!" |
| 22:16.50 | Esamynn | for the record, the Myan calendar does NOT end in 2012 |
| 22:17.01 | Dagmar | "It's not green" |
| 22:17.04 | KarlKFI|work | "I have got to get me one of these!" |
| 22:17.10 | *** join/#wowuidev Elusive (n=designer@unaffiliated/elusive) |
| 22:17.10 | malreth | Dagmar: that's why i hate that movie |
| 22:17.11 | Dagmar | Esamynn: I gave up pointing that out some time back |
| 22:18.33 | Esamynn | ~lart NightHawkTheSan1 |
| 22:18.33 | purl | eats NightHawkTheSan1's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti |
| 22:19.05 | malreth | purl, i don't wanna ask |
| 22:19.06 | purl | You don't wanna ask? |
| 22:19.07 | Shirik | Esamynn: What about the Mayan calendar? |
| 22:19.30 | Sesshu | i love you purl |
| 22:19.33 | Sesshu | ! |
| 22:19.43 | malreth | purl, we love you |
| 22:19.44 | purl | Shame, I hate non-bots. |
| 22:19.49 | malreth | :O |
| 22:19.56 | KarlKFI|work | "Is that an earthquake?" "Not even a four pointer. Go back to sleep. " |
| 22:20.14 | Dagmar | Shirik: Strangely, it cares little for synchronization with the Gregorian calendar |
| 22:20.26 | Shirik | Esamynn!!! |
| 22:20.27 | Shirik | Halp |
| 22:20.34 | Esamynn | Shirik: it doesn't end in 2012 |
| 22:20.34 | Shirik | You wrote that fisheye auth plugin? |
| 22:20.38 | Dagmar | They claim they never got the memo. |
| 22:20.40 | Esamynn | Shirik: I did |
| 22:20.44 | Esamynn | well |
| 22:20.51 | Esamynn | not originally, but I maintain it atm |
| 22:20.55 | Sesshu | ~564313+545132 |
| 22:20.56 | purl | 1109445 |
| 22:21.00 | Sesshu | thanks |
| 22:21.02 | Shirik | Is there any other documentation on what they support? Specifically, I want to know if I can add another repository type |
| 22:21.11 | Shirik | currently they only support git/svn/perforce/cvs |
| 22:21.18 | Esamynn | Shirik: heck if I know |
| 22:21.23 | Shirik | :< |
| 22:21.31 | Esamynn | sorry |
| 22:21.35 | Shirik | USELESS |
| 22:21.44 | Esamynn | ~lart Shirik |
| 22:21.44 | purl | drops a humongous exploding nuke on Shirik |
| 22:22.01 | KarlKFI|work | beats a dud |
| 22:22.30 | KarlKFI|work | "I'm not Jewish." "Well, nobody's perfect." |
| 22:22.34 | Sesshu | ~cpustats |
| 22:22.35 | purl | Total CPU usage: 8478.1 s ... Total used: 3.0 % (parent/child ratio: 100.0 %) |
| 22:23.07 | Esamynn | KarlKFI|work: yes, I think we've all seen it, can we stop quoting it now? |
| 22:23.27 | KarlKFI|work | do i have to? |
| 22:23.52 | Esamynn | technically I didn't ask you to stop... |
| 22:23.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Shadowed (n=Shadowed@174.34.168.226) |
| 22:24.52 | Shirik | bleeter, who is Bernanke? |
| 22:25.05 | Shirik | US Federal Reserve chairman |
| 22:25.07 | Shirik | not important |
| 22:25.08 | Shirik | oh well |
| 22:26.31 | KarlKFI|work | "I picked a helluva day to quit drinkin'. " |
| 22:30.05 | *** join/#wowuidev the-golem (n=the-gole@adsl-75-48-22-171.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:32.29 | Shirik | random question |
| 22:32.35 | TC-Away | KarlKFI|work, go airplane! |
| 22:32.46 | Shirik | why is it: |
| 22:33.28 | Shirik | nm |
| 22:33.31 | Shirik | I think I answered my own question |
| 22:33.41 | kdtresh | that was indeed random |
| 22:33.51 | KarlKFI|work | "Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue. " |
| 22:34.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Aqua (i=Aqua@74-137-178-13.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 22:34.08 | kdtresh | "get that finger out of your ear. you don't know where that finger's been!" |
| 22:34.39 | KarlKFI|work | "You got a letter from headquarters this morning." "What is it?" "It's a big building where generals meet, but that's not important." |
| 22:35.18 | Shirik | I am going to destroy you |
| 22:35.22 | Dagmar | Let dead movies lie. |
| 22:35.28 | kdtresh | "the cockpit? what is it? it's the little room at the front of the plate where the pilot sits, but that's not important." |
| 22:35.39 | kdtresh | erm, plane, lol |
| 22:35.48 | Shirik | stabs kdtresh |
| 22:35.52 | Dagmar | ...or else you may find yourself joining them. |
| 22:35.57 | kdtresh | slinks away in disgrace. |
| 22:36.20 | KarlKFI|work | "Johnny, what can you make out of this?" "This? Why, I can make a hat or a brooch or a pterodactyl..." |
| 22:36.30 | Dagmar | There's only one movie that's socially acceptable to quote from repeatedly, AND I DON'T SEE YOU WEARING A BUSTIER AND GARTERS, BUDDY. |
| 22:36.43 | kdtresh | "passengers certain to die! there's a sale at penny's!" |
| 22:45.44 | Shirik | sets mode +b %KarlKFI*!*@* |
| 22:47.50 | *** join/#wowuidev theorbtwo (n=theorb@91.84.53.6) |
| 22:51.41 | Shirik | batbot: newproxy |
| 22:51.51 | Shirik | !lua print(newproxy) |
| 22:51.51 | batbot | Shirik: function: 0x6dc2a0 |
| 22:53.42 | Shirik | !lua e=newproxy(true); e.__name = "e" getmetatable(e).__gc = function(self) print("Collection attempt."); _G[e.__name] = self; end; e = nil; collectgarbage("collect") print(e); |
| 22:53.42 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string "e=newproxy(true); e.__name = "e" getmetatab..."]:1: attempt to index global 'e' (a userdata value) |
| 22:53.51 | Shirik | :( |
| 22:54.14 | Shirik | !lua e=newproxy(true); getmetatable(e).__name = "e" getmetatable(e).__gc = function(self) print("Collection attempt."); _G[getmetatable(e).__name] = self; end; e = nil; collectgarbage("collect") print(e); |
| 22:54.15 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string "e=newproxy(true); getmetatable(e).__name = ..."]:1: attempt to index a nil value |
| 22:54.17 | Shirik | I hate you |
| 22:55.25 | Sesshu | why youre not using lua bot? |
| 22:56.26 | Esamynn | Shirik: was a gag on poor KarlKFI|work really necessary? |
| 22:56.33 | Esamynn | I think that's abuse of power! |
| 22:56.34 | Shirik | I didn't actually do that :P |
| 22:56.40 | Shirik | oh |
| 22:56.46 | Shirik | Sesshu: because |
| 22:56.49 | Esamynn | oh, you're right, that was an emote |
| 22:56.49 | Shirik | lua> newproxy |
| 22:56.50 | lua_bot | Shirik: function: 0x84626b0 |
| 22:56.57 | Shirik | oh wait |
| 22:57.00 | Shirik | ooh this might be fun |
| 22:57.01 | Esamynn | I'm not used to parsing this webchat screen :( |
| 22:57.15 | Shirik | oh no wait, Sesshu, it's because there is no persistence in lua_bot |
| 22:57.23 | Shirik | what I'm about to break in batbot cannot be broken in lua_bot |
| 22:57.49 | Hirsute | HEh |
| 22:57.53 | Hirsute | Destructive today, eh? |
| 22:58.58 | Sesshu | ah ok |
| 22:59.04 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 23:01.07 | Thunder_Child | ~weather klax |
| 23:01.15 | Shirik | Hirsute: Our discussion opened up an interesting thoguht I had about batbot |
| 23:01.18 | Thunder_Child | 81 my ass |
| 23:02.00 | Hirsute | Shirik: I figured. I'm waiting to see what you're going to break. |
| 23:02.11 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: are you at the airport, how do you know it's not 81 :P |
| 23:02.24 | Shirik | well I've already created a permanent object |
| 23:02.34 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, i know it is there. it is a lot closer to the ocean than me |
| 23:02.39 | Shirik | !lua print(e); e = nil; collectgarbage"collect"; print(e) |
| 23:02.39 | batbot | Shirik: userdata: 0x6fac28 Collection attempt. userdata: 0x68ee28 |
| 23:02.41 | Thunder_Child | i wish i was there |
| 23:02.45 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 23:02.49 | Shirik | !lua print(e); e = nil; collectgarbage"collect"; print(e) |
| 23:02.49 | batbot | Shirik: userdata: 0x68ee28 Collection attempt. userdata: 0x70ba88 |
| 23:02.51 | Esamynn | sigh |
| 23:02.51 | Shirik | goes forever |
| 23:02.57 | Esamynn | I wish you could still buy Warcraft 2 :( |
| 23:02.59 | Shirik | Now the next step is to exhaust memory |
| 23:03.08 | Thunder_Child | you could have just asked Sesshu |
| 23:03.16 | Sesshu | i did |
| 23:03.25 | Shirik | If I'm correct, when batbot exhausts memory, it tries to destroy the entire persistent environment to get back to a usable state |
| 23:03.26 | Bruners | http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/WoWScrnShot_082809_010248.jpg i r the proz! |
| 23:03.30 | Sesshu | but i asked your client |
| 23:03.34 | Fisker | you suck |
| 23:03.35 | Fisker | l2p |
| 23:03.43 | Shirik | if my code is correct, then my permanent object should circumvent that protection and force it into a never-usable state |
| 23:04.11 | Hirsute | Who owns batbot? |
| 23:04.18 | Fisker | batrick |
| 23:04.18 | Thunder_Child | batrik |
| 23:04.22 | Fisker | I OWN YOU |
| 23:04.29 | Hirsute | Imagine his surprise. |
| 23:04.29 | Sesshu | omg Fisker |
| 23:04.49 | Sesshu | don't be so loud |
| 23:05.09 | Shirik | and I might have done it |
| 23:05.12 | Shirik | !lua print(1) |
| 23:05.13 | Fisker | ii was owning so hard Sesshu |
| 23:05.17 | Shirik | Someone try to use batbot |
| 23:05.21 | Esamynn | ~lart Fisker |
| 23:05.21 | purl | send killer squirrels to attack Fisker |
| 23:05.33 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, i was curious about your comment so i was trying to find it, look at this search result http://www.gogamer.com/searchresults.htm?keywords=warcraft+2&categoryId=&x=0&y=0 |
| 23:05.59 | Hirsute | Shirik: You win. |
| 23:06.05 | Hirsute | Poor batbot |
| 23:06.07 | Fisker | ~whalenuke Hirsute |
| 23:06.08 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Hirsute with his mind powers. |
| 23:06.08 | Thunder_Child | !g omg |
| 23:06.11 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: O_o |
| 23:06.32 | Shirik | Hirsute: The reason I do these things is to get them before other people do :) |
| 23:06.46 | Fisker | rawr my cat r sleepy cat |
| 23:06.47 | Shirik | For example, there have been things in the past where we might be able to execute arbitrary IRC commands |
| 23:06.53 | Shirik | or... better yet... execute arbitrary shell code |
| 23:07.04 | Shirik | s/shell/system/ |
| 23:07.10 | Shirik | like rm -rf / |
| 23:07.16 | Esamynn | lol |
| 23:07.33 | Dagmar | Both definitions work |
| 23:07.44 | Shirik | I didn't like "shell code" because that seems to imply "spawn a shell" to me |
| 23:07.52 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, though it's not worth it at this price since it is the same as the chest http://www.galactics.com/WarCraft-II-Battle.net-Edition/M/B00001SHNG.htm |
| 23:07.57 | Dagmar | Whaddaya think is parsing `rm -rf /`? |
| 23:08.01 | Shirik | well sure |
| 23:08.04 | Shirik | but it's not a shell at your fingertips |
| 23:08.16 | Hirsute | Oh, I know you're not really being purely destructive there. And your abilities in this regard are far beyond my own. I really don't understand what you just did beyond "broke batbot's defenses against runaway memory consumption, and exploited the breakage", but your point is taken. |
| 23:08.16 | Dagmar | It's still bash/sh/csh/whatevercrackedoutshell |
| 23:08.40 | Shirik | Here |
| 23:08.42 | Shirik | have fun parsing it |
| 23:08.44 | Shirik | function gc(self) print("Collection attempt."); local smt = getmetatable(self); _G[smt.__name] = newproxy(true); getmetatable(_G[smt.__name]).__gc = smt.__gc; getmetatable(_G[smt.__name]).__name = smt.__name end; local n = 1; while true do local name = "foo"..n; _G[name] = newproxy(true); getmetatable(name).__gc = gc; getmetatable(name).__name=name; n = n + 1; end |
| 23:08.47 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: wait, the first link you gave me came up with 2 age of conan products... |
| 23:08.48 | Hirsute | I've amended my statement over in the other channel to, "While addons *could* hang the client, most of the time they aren't really the problem. |
| 23:08.55 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, i know |
| 23:09.21 | Hirsute | Shirik: The reason I got lost is that I really don't understand metatables at all. |
| 23:09.25 | Shirik | oh :) |
| 23:09.27 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, i was ammused by it |
| 23:09.31 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: is that 2nd site actually selling WC2? |
| 23:09.35 | Shirik | well, __gc is called whenever the object is collected |
| 23:09.53 | Shirik | What I did was made it recreate itself whenever it's collected |
| 23:09.58 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, well it is but through amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00001SHNG |
| 23:10.21 | Dagmar | Shirik: Any chance you can find hte address of the caller? |
| 23:10.30 | Esamynn | ponders |
| 23:10.33 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, and if you go to the new section you can get it for as low as a stupid expensive price |
| 23:10.49 | Esamynn | Win98, I wonder if I could make it run on xp 64-bit ;) |
| 23:10.51 | Bruners | would the gnomish army knife function as a Simple Grinder as well? |
| 23:11.00 | Shirik | Dagmar: I'm not sure that has much meaning in the context of Lua |
| 23:11.03 | Thunder_Child | heh, GL on that |
| 23:11.12 | Esamynn | would be an interesting experiment ;) |
| 23:11.12 | Hirsute | Bruners: I don't think it does. |
| 23:11.23 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Bruners: the tooltip lists exactly what it has |
| 23:11.26 | Dagmar | Shirik: Well, the idea of actively interfereing with the collector intrigues me |
| 23:11.46 | Bruners | maby they had added something more without updating the tooltip! :P |
| 23:11.52 | Shirik | oh, do you mean you want to go up the stack to the function where the GC was called from? |
| 23:12.14 | Dagmar | I'd be more interested in changing some of the pointers around |
| 23:12.25 | Shirik | I've already exploited batbot in the past where I was able to run up the stack from the GC into the "core" code and I was able to change any variable, access anything there |
| 23:12.25 | Dagmar | Like say, seeing if you can get the gc to bite it's own tail |
| 23:12.28 | Shirik | and that was in the unrestricted environment |
| 23:12.33 | Hirsute | Shirik: Are the ___s in that function significant of anything? |
| 23:12.36 | Shirik | however, that has since been patched |
| 23:12.48 | Shirik | Hirsute: For __gc, yes. for __name it's just because it's a habit |
| 23:12.54 | Dagmar | It would be nice and quiet, and slowly bring garbage collection to a halt |
| 23:12.56 | Shirik | __gc is just the name defined by Lua |
| 23:13.04 | Hirsute | For the garbage collector? |
| 23:13.35 | Shirik | So whenever a userdata is marked for collection, the GC goes out to the userdata's metatable and looks for a function named __gc inside it. If it exists, it calls it. |
| 23:13.49 | Hirsute | Ah-ha! |
| 23:13.59 | Hirsute | Now I understand what's happening up there a bit more. |
| 23:14.12 | Dagmar | That seems, um, somewhat ill-planned to me |
| 23:14.48 | Shirik | it's extremely useful |
| 23:15.02 | Shirik | In fact, it's necessary for most Lua libraries to work |
| 23:15.08 | Dagmar | So what happens if __gc doesn't do it's job? |
| 23:15.23 | Dagmar | Is that function in some what protected from user, um, hostility? |
| 23:15.24 | Hirsute | Shirik: "I was able to run up the stack from the GC into the "core" code and I was able to change any variable, access anything there" I wonder (purely academically) if the same thing would be possible inside the client. |
| 23:15.24 | Shirik | Well __gc's real purpose is to free up resources that aren't managed by Lua |
| 23:15.41 | Shirik | The REAL problem is that Lua code generally isn't supposed to make userdata objects. That's generally for C to mess with. |
| 23:15.53 | Shirik | However, newproxy() exists, which lets you create an empty userdata object. |
| 23:16.08 | Zhinjio | it is for to lol at: http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/song-chart-memes-have-girlfriend.jpg?w=504&h=343 |
| 23:16.13 | Dagmar | Yeah well, perl isn't really meant for users to dicker around with the HASH(0xdeadbeef) values but it doesn't do a very good job of stopping you either. |
| 23:16.33 | Hirsute | 0xdeadbeef? |
| 23:16.38 | Hirsute | That is an awesome name |
| 23:16.46 | Dagmar | most people would recognize that as fill-in hex of no importance |
| 23:17.01 | Dagmar | It's been value executeable in a few ancient platforms |
| 23:17.08 | Hirsute | is obviously not most people. And feeling sheepish now. |
| 23:17.17 | Dagmar | 'bout as meaninful as 'foo' or 'victim.com' now |
| 23:17.32 | *** join/#wowuidev Gryphen (n=gryphon@c-76-104-164-148.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 23:17.39 | Dagmar | Doon' sweat it |
| 23:18.35 | Dagmar | Some of these mechanisms I swear... |
| 23:18.51 | Dagmar | It's like they're written with the firm belief in mind that the user will never ever be a total a**hole |
| 23:19.03 | Shirik | well |
| 23:19.13 | Shirik | really, most secure systems don't allow for use of newproxy() |
| 23:19.27 | Shirik | In fact, there has been discussion of removing it from Lua completely |
| 23:19.35 | Shirik | Without newproxy() this becomes a non-issue |
| 23:19.38 | Dagmar | This would probably be a good idea |
| 23:20.20 | Hirsute | Dagmar: Well, most online services in the early days of the internet were written with that belief, too. |
| 23:20.31 | Dagmar | I miss those days sometimes |
| 23:20.34 | Hirsute | Like the earliest mail servers that allowed anonymous relays. |
| 23:20.39 | Dagmar | LOL I R QLINK ADMIN |
| 23:20.55 | Hirsute | telnet mail.someone.com 25 |
| 23:20.57 | Hirsute | HELO |
| 23:20.59 | Dagmar | That was simply a matter of there wasn't any spam |
| 23:20.59 | Hirsute | etc |
| 23:21.12 | Dagmar | ...or at least, no spam that didn't come along with serious repercussions |
| 23:21.21 | Dagmar | ...like your account mysteriously disappearing. |
| 23:21.32 | Dagmar | Now there's too many spammers for the cranks to kill them all |
| 23:21.47 | Hirsute | Dagmar: There were other uses for that as well, though, which could be just as nefarious. |
| 23:22.01 | Shirik | I want to invent a new protocol where the handshake is |
| 23:22.03 | Shirik | -> HELO |
| 23:22.04 | Shirik | <- THAR |
| 23:22.07 | Dagmar | Yeah but if you could read a mail header they weren't a cloak of invisibility or somethign |
| 23:22.14 | Hirsute | *nod* |
| 23:22.34 | Dagmar | I used to send mail by telnet sometimes just because it was faster than fucking VMS mail |
| 23:22.35 | Hirsute | Shirik: With confirmations being "ORLY" and responses being "YARLY" or "NOOOZ" |
| 23:22.48 | Dagmar | Hirsuite: That would be um, nice actually heheh |
| 23:22.54 | Esamynn | Hirsute: damnit, you stole my punch line |
| 23:23.00 | Hirsute | HEh |
| 23:23.16 | Esamynn | get out of my head! |
| 23:23.21 | Hirsute | I'd love to watch that fly over the wireshark trace |
| 23:23.35 | Dagmar | It gives me an idea for Phreaknic |
| 23:23.45 | Dagmar | $coworker is in charge of the rootwars server |
| 23:23.50 | Dagmar | I may add some extra services to it |
| 23:24.19 | *** join/#wowuidev Arrowmaster` (n=arrow@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ResponsibleForEverythingAndNothing/Arrowmaster) |
| 23:24.43 | batrick | zzz |
| 23:25.12 | *** join/#wowuidev batbot (n=batbot@batbytes.com) |
| 23:25.15 | batrick | Shirik: go |
| 23:25.28 | Dagmar | If I just made up a simple messsaging protocol from whole cloth, someone would actually have to *hack* instead of just throwing canned tools at it |
| 23:25.30 | Shirik | !lua function gc(self) print("Collection attempt."); local smt = getmetatable(self); _G[smt.__name] = newproxy(true); getmetatable(_G[smt.__name]).__gc = smt.__gc; getmetatable(_G[smt.__name]).__name = smt.__name end; local n = 1; while true do local name = "foo"..n; _G[name] = newproxy(true); getmetatable(name).__gc = gc; getmetatable(name).__name=name; n = n + 1; end |
| 23:25.35 | Shirik | :/ |
| 23:25.36 | batbot | Shirik: @ not enough memory |
| 23:25.45 | Shirik | !lua print(1) |
| 23:25.51 | Shirik | nope :/ |
| 23:25.53 | batrick | : / |
| 23:26.04 | Shirik | I still like my option |
| 23:26.08 | Shirik | just completely disable __gc |
| 23:26.18 | Shirik | I really think __gc is the most dangerous metamethod available |
| 23:26.32 | batrick | I went through like |
| 23:26.39 | batrick | 200 lines of BS code to make that OK |
| 23:26.43 | batrick | that is, that metamethod |
| 23:26.47 | batrick | besides |
| 23:26.48 | Shirik | :/ |
| 23:26.52 | batrick | well |
| 23:26.55 | batrick | I'd give an example |
| 23:26.59 | batrick | but batbot is silent right now |
| 23:27.27 | batrick | newproxy = function() return debug.getmetatable(lpeg.P "") end |
| 23:27.28 | batrick | tada |
| 23:27.33 | Ackis | cool I subscribed to wow to play the intances cannot be launched |
| 23:27.38 | batrick | err well, something like that |
| 23:27.54 | Dagmar | Ackis: It's all in the timing |
| 23:28.11 | Ackis | oh? |
| 23:29.13 | Dagmar | You must determine (using your psychic powers) when someone else's instance will expire so that you can be the first to get the newly freed-up one |
| 23:29.55 | Hirsute | has never received an "instances cannot be launched" error. |
| 23:29.56 | Ackis | :P |
| 23:30.00 | Hirsute | Now hides behind the couch |
| 23:30.07 | Dagmar | ...or you can do what we do... which is cross your fingers and watch for people leaving the one you're staring at |
| 23:30.35 | Ackis | i wanted to do dire maul :P |
| 23:30.55 | Dagmar | I was shocked to find that place has a faction of some kind associated with it |
| 23:31.32 | bleeter | *blinks* |
| 23:32.02 | Dagmar | No kidding. |
| 23:32.09 | bleeter | Ackis: you could always... subscribe a few more accounts. then park toons inside instances and ransom them to the highest bidder ;) |
| 23:32.19 | Dagmar | Shen'dralar, which appears to be there for no other purpose than to maybe keep people from killing the libram NPCs |
| 23:33.03 | Dagmar | clicks "Move to inactive" |
| 23:33.04 | Hirsute | Speaking of faction. 5 more days and I'm a champion for all my major cities. I'm getting a wee bit tired of the Argent Tourney dailies, particularly since the patch. |
| 23:33.15 | Dagmar | Hirsute: They just give you more |
| 23:33.19 | bleeter | Dagmar: I suspect it may have had something to do with original concept of Emerald Dream XPAC |
| 23:33.32 | bleeter | Dagmar: http://www.wowwiki.com/Shen%27dralar#The_Return_of_the_Highborne |
| 23:33.36 | Dagmar | I *finally* got Exodar all done up two nights ago |
| 23:33.40 | Ackis | it's used for the insane title Dagmar |
| 23:33.43 | Dagmar | Flood of new titles |
| 23:33.51 | Hirsute | Stormwind is my last one. |
| 23:33.51 | bleeter | Dagmar: sounds like they're returning in Cataclysm |
| 23:34.25 | Dagmar | Looks like some idiot children are making things up in the wiki again |
| 23:34.37 | Dagmar | ...like the Braveheart event in Karazhan |
| 23:34.54 | Dagmar | "A cautionous return" |
| 23:35.23 | bleeter | Dagmar: that's not in 3.2.2? I haven't got an Ally to check ;) |
| 23:35.45 | Dagmar | I'll have to go look tonight when I Get home |
| 23:36.09 | bleeter | tbh, that faction, and the guys at that post in felwood... have been waiting explanation for some time |
| 23:36.18 | bleeter | tho I think the felwood post place had it's faction stripped, didn't it? |
| 23:36.25 | *** join/#wowuidev wobin (n=wobin@136.136.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 23:36.28 | NightHawkTheSan1 | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/is_using_a_minotaur_to_gore?utm_source=nav |
| 23:36.37 | wobin | hokay |
| 23:36.55 | wobin | help me out here, I want to buy some more RAM, but I haven't done so in such a long long time, I have no idea what's good nowadays |
| 23:37.26 | Esamynn | what kind? DDR2? DDR3? |
| 23:37.29 | Dagmar | No problem. You don't have a lot of choices |
| 23:37.33 | wobin | Esamynn: exactly |
| 23:37.38 | theorbtwo | wobin: Get RAM that matches your existing RAM if you plan on keeping it. If you don't, get the best RAM your motherboard supports. |
| 23:37.43 | Dagmar | You'll either be buying exactly what's in the machine already, replacing it all, or failing |
| 23:37.44 | Esamynn | well, your computer only supports one of those wobin |
| 23:37.46 | KarlKFI|work | I just bought ram yesterday |
| 23:37.47 | Thunder_Child | wobin, it depends on what your mobo can handle |
| 23:37.49 | wobin | hm |
| 23:37.57 | KarlKFI|work | but i paid 2x as much as i should have |
| 23:38.11 | Dagmar | wobin: so... whta kinda CPU you got there |
| 23:38.25 | Dagmar | ...and how much RAM and in how many pieces did it come/ |
| 23:38.26 | KarlKFI|work | cause I'm a sucker for error correction fully buffered server ram with massive heatsinks |
| 23:38.28 | Esamynn | wobin: if it's more than a year or 2 old, chances are VERY high you want DDR2 |
| 23:38.37 | Esamynn | KarlKFI|work: sucker |
| 23:38.42 | Dagmar | Dunno about that |
| 23:38.49 | wobin | How recent is DDR3? |
| 23:38.51 | theorbtwo | Crutial, or however the hell you spell them, is very good at telling you what sort of memory you take. |
| 23:38.52 | Dagmar | I have a four year old server here. DDR2 would go up in a puff of smoke |
| 23:39.07 | wobin | Dagmar: om nomnomnom? =) |
| 23:39.09 | bleeter | emerald circle, that's them |
| 23:39.13 | bleeter | no, they are still there |
| 23:39.14 | Dagmar | wobin: Very, but it doesn't matter. The type of CPU you have dictates the RAM type you need |
| 23:39.16 | theorbtwo | (But you don't neccessarly want to buy from them; IIRC they are a little bit pricey.) |
| 23:39.23 | Dagmar | wobin: More like an HMC error |
| 23:39.50 | Dagmar | Halt, Melt, Catch fire. |
| 23:39.50 | wobin | atm, it's two 1gig pieces |
| 23:39.57 | Dagmar | You have two free slots then? |
| 23:40.01 | wobin | aye |
| 23:40.12 | wobin | I'm actually willing to replace them fully =) |
| 23:40.23 | wobin | how much RAM can Win7 handle? |
| 23:40.23 | bleeter | sounds like DDR2, BIOS POST screen should tell you |
| 23:40.26 | Dagmar | So again, what CPU do you have? |
| 23:40.38 | bleeter | wobin: lots |
| 23:40.38 | Dagmar | wobin: More than you can afford to buy |
| 23:40.43 | bleeter | ^^ |
| 23:40.48 | Dagmar | ...assuming you're running the 64-bit version |
| 23:41.00 | wobin | >< I'm going to have to go home and check. It's really been that long since I've looked... |
| 23:41.10 | wobin | quad core |
| 23:41.13 | Dagmar | The upper limit for W7 isn't as high as the hardware "should" accept, but it's still a ludicrous sum |
| 23:41.26 | Dagmar | Oh hey... Was it made with some metal sticking out the bottom? |
| 23:41.35 | NightHawkTheSan1 | 64gb of ram! WOOOOO! |
| 23:41.42 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSan1: Higher |
| 23:41.42 | wobin | hm, I'm assuming I'm getting a copy of 64bit W7 |
| 23:41.55 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Dagmar: like you said depends on the physical hardware :P |
| 23:42.04 | Dagmar | Okay |
| 23:42.24 | NightHawkTheSan1 | dunno how many machines have that many slots really |
| 23:42.24 | Dagmar | Yeah i've not heard of anyone making anything that comes close to being able to take enough sticks to max that out |
| 23:42.24 | Dagmar | yet... |
| 23:42.25 | wobin | hehe, ie, run the entire session with storage in ramdisk |
| 23:42.35 | bleeter | I'm gunna go see my vendor today see if he'll replace my (noninstalled) Vista with a W7 licence lol |
| 23:43.20 | Ackis | second day in WoW and I just got called a masive faggot :( |
| 23:43.26 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 23:43.27 | Dagmar | You wouldn't need disks |
| 23:43.34 | Dagmar | You'd need really, really stable power and lots of it. |
| 23:43.35 | Esamynn | Ackis: well, they pinned you fast :P |
| 23:43.37 | batrick | Shirik: turns out I was not doing proper error handling :( |
| 23:43.44 | Ackis | Esamynn: rofl |
| 23:43.46 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Ackis: took two whole days huh? |
| 23:43.48 | Esamynn | =D |
| 23:43.51 | Dagmar | I imagine that even RAM would generate significant amounts of heat if you're running 16 exabytes of it in one place |
| 23:43.53 | batrick | so batbot was waiting on a condition variable |
| 23:43.58 | theorbtwo | bleeter: They won't, they aren't allowed to sell them until october. |
| 23:43.58 | Shirik | nice |
| 23:44.01 | Shirik | A true ddos |
| 23:44.01 | Ackis | I hate you all lol |
| 23:44.02 | Shirik | er |
| 23:44.03 | Shirik | a true dos |
| 23:44.05 | Esamynn | Ackis: sorry, couldn't help myself, that was just too juicy |
| 23:44.08 | Shirik | I win! |
| 23:44.13 | Ackis | haha yah I'm laughing out loud |
| 23:44.18 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ~comfort Ackis |
| 23:44.19 | purl | There, there, Ackis. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 23:44.19 | theorbtwo | They might give you a vista license and promise to sell you a w7 license cheap when it comes out. |
| 23:44.22 | Ackis | gf is like "you just got owned" |
| 23:44.27 | *** join/#wowuidev batbot (n=batbot@batbytes.com) |
| 23:44.32 | Dagmar | Ackis: sounds like someone's taken a shine to you |
| 23:44.35 | Shirik | Can I create a CVE number for this? |
| 23:44.35 | ajmitch | Ackis: trade chat or pug? |
| 23:44.39 | batrick | Shirik: go! |
| 23:44.41 | Ackis | ajmitch: in a tell |
| 23:44.43 | Ackis | lol |
| 23:44.45 | bleeter | theorbtwo: I've known the guy since he was... 2y/o. He'll probably sell me one for a beer or three the day it comes out ;) I've got a lappy that I removed vista from the day I got it, he's always kept the license for me ;) |
| 23:44.49 | Dagmar | He's not being honest with his gf about a few things, clearly. |
| 23:44.50 | Ackis | I killed someone doing the DM rare spawn haha |
| 23:44.50 | Shirik | !lua function gc(self) print("Collection attempt."); local smt = getmetatable(self); _G[smt.__name] = newproxy(true); getmetatable(_G[smt.__name]).__gc = smt.__gc; getmetatable(_G[smt.__name]).__name = smt.__name end; local n = 1; while true do local name = "foo"..n; _G[name] = newproxy(true); getmetatable(name).__gc = gc; getmetatable(name).__name=name; n = n + 1; end |
| 23:44.51 | KarlKFI|work | I'll be up to 8GB when i get home |
| 23:44.51 | batbot | Shirik: @ sandbox became invalid: RERROR |
| 23:44.52 | ajmitch | even better |
| 23:44.57 | Shirik | ..... what? |
| 23:45.00 | Dagmar | YAY! |
| 23:45.01 | batrick | fuck |
| 23:45.06 | wobin | Ackis: Sounds like they like "Generously proportioned similar gendered" love interests |
| 23:45.08 | batrick | almost! |
| 23:45.14 | batrick | !lua print 'hi' |
| 23:45.14 | theorbtwo | Ackis: Er, this is your second day on wow, but I've been using your addon for months? |
| 23:45.14 | batbot | batrick: hi |
| 23:45.22 | batrick | Shirik: still works! |
| 23:45.25 | Ackis | theorbtwo: lol I quit wow for a while, 2nd day back |
| 23:45.27 | Shirik | wtf is RERROR |
| 23:45.31 | Shirik | !lua error("Error") |
| 23:45.31 | batbot | Shirik: @ sandbox became invalid: RERROR |
| 23:45.33 | batrick | that RERROR should have reported "out of memory" |
| 23:45.36 | KarlKFI|work | a REAL error |
| 23:45.37 | bleeter | Ackis: DM ARENA WIN WOOTS GO YOU! |
| 23:45.40 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Ackis totally drycodes everything. |
| 23:45.41 | theorbtwo | Ackis: Ah-ha! |
| 23:45.45 | Shirik | I think you need to fix your error handling still :P |
| 23:45.47 | batrick | RERROR stands for Runtime error |
| 23:45.50 | Dagmar | Shirik: Congrats! You broked it! :) |
| 23:45.51 | KarlKFI|work | none of those fake errors you've been getting before |
| 23:46.08 | theorbtwo | bleeter: Sounds like a fun supplier. |
| 23:46.55 | KarlKFI|work | Esamynn: yeah i'm a sucker. i coulda spent $50 for 2x2gb sticks but instead i got the fully buffered and heat sincked stuff |
| 23:46.56 | Thunder_Child | batbot, is there also a "RUHRO" |
| 23:46.56 | Hirsute | Ackis: I wouldn't have called you a massive faggot, but I'd have been pretty pissed off if I'd been the guy you killed. |
| 23:47.06 | Thunder_Child | s/batbot/batrik/ |
| 23:47.12 | bleeter | theorbtwo: the only truly honest and totally geeked out supplier in my town here. he's so good, he's managed to open up 3 other stores around the country under the face of multinational competition :) |
| 23:47.27 | KarlKFI|work | I do overclock for gaming tho when i feel like it. so the ECC isn't completely useless |
| 23:47.27 | Esamynn | KarlKFI|work: ... worried about those evil cosmic rays? |
| 23:47.29 | theorbtwo | Cool! |
| 23:47.31 | Dagmar | Hirsute: This is why the factions aren't allowed to talk to each other |
| 23:47.34 | Ackis | Hirsute: Oh I woudl've been mad too, it's blizzards fault though... instances cannot be launched |
| 23:47.47 | Dagmar | You've seen the verbal putrescence that is trade chat |
| 23:48.02 | Dagmar | Now imagine that these people had a _reason_ to be dicks to each other beyond their natural inclination |
| 23:48.03 | Hirsute | Dagmar: Unless you merge your battlenet accounts, then you can cross-faction chat, from what I understad, or *will* be able to. |
| 23:48.15 | Hirsute | Ackis: Heh. |
| 23:48.15 | KarlKFI|work | yeah Esamynn, those evil cosmic rays + retarted high temperatures in my apt |
| 23:48.20 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 23:48.36 | KarlKFI|work | not that it owuld really matter |
| 23:48.47 | KarlKFI|work | but it does help when overcloakign to 3.2ghz from 2.66 |
| 23:48.56 | KarlKFI|work | lul over cloaking |
| 23:49.08 | KarlKFI|work | that's like SUPER INVISIBLE! |
| 23:49.09 | Esamynn | I'm thinking it's time to overclock my machine |
| 23:49.12 | bleeter | heh I was 'is KarlKFI|work doing voice to text? oh wait no' lol |
| 23:49.24 | Esamynn | I mean, otherwise the water cooling is sorta wasted |
| 23:49.37 | KarlKFI|work | lol watercoolign ftl |
| 23:49.51 | Esamynn | :P |
| 23:49.53 | bleeter | Esamynn: water cooling is a waste of good pasta baking environment :P |
| 23:49.58 | theorbtwo | Esamynn: But it makes soothing noises, like a river... and a pump. |
| 23:49.58 | Esamynn | it was an interesting experiment ;) |
| 23:49.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I once had a watercooled box |
| 23:50.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Then the pump died |
| 23:50.08 | ScytheBlade1 | And it died in turn |
| 23:50.32 | KarlKFI|work | replace my nearly silent 7 fans with a gurgling pump and 1 noisy fan and chance fo spilage? |
| 23:50.46 | Esamynn | yah, I won't ever go that route again |
| 23:50.53 | Esamynn | but like I said, it was an interesting experiment |
| 23:50.55 | KarlKFI|work | water collign BLOWS for lan parties too |
| 23:51.02 | *** join/#wowuidev batbot (n=batbot@batbytes.com) |
| 23:51.08 | batrick | !lua error'wat' |
| 23:51.15 | bleeter | dry ice isn't that bad for LAN parties.. keeps the beer cool, too |
| 23:51.22 | KarlKFI|work | ^^ |
| 23:51.25 | Esamynn | lol |
| 23:51.26 | batbot | batrick: @ [string "return error'wat'"]:1: wat |
| 23:51.33 | KarlKFI|work | or nuclear freezers |
| 23:51.37 | NightHawkTheSan1 | mm.. beer.. |
| 23:51.39 | ajmitch | is tempted to buy a laptop that can actually play wow |
| 23:51.43 | bleeter | mind you, here in tasmania in winter... we just keep the machines outside ;) |
| 23:51.46 | batrick | Shirik: continue ^_^ |
| 23:52.19 | KarlKFI|work | i should just get like a window hanging thing with a turbine air conditioner on it |
| 23:52.29 | KarlKFI|work | so i can hang my compueter outside |
| 23:52.51 | KarlKFI|work | and hope we dont have an earthquake |
| 23:52.55 | bleeter | KarlKFI|work: what is it with all the typos.. your hands cold?? |
| 23:52.55 | bleeter | :P |
| 23:53.11 | theorbtwo | I need to do something about my new machine's cooling. |
| 23:53.18 | wobin | aiee, the locksmith behind me is filing some metal in that teeth rattling vibration frequency |
| 23:53.28 | *** part/#wowuidev kenuvis (n=kenuvis@pD9EAE3B4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:53.33 | Shirik | !lua function gc(self) print("Collection attempt."); local smt = getmetatable(self); _G[smt.__name] = newproxy(true); getmetatable(_G[smt.__name]).__gc = smt.__gc; getmetatable(_G[smt.__name]).__name = smt.__name end; local n = 1; while true do local name = "foo"..n; _G[name] = newproxy(true); getmetatable(name).__gc = gc; getmetatable(name).__name=name; n = n + 1; end |
| 23:53.33 | batbot | Shirik: @ not enough memory |
| 23:53.38 | Shirik | !lua print("1") |
| 23:53.38 | batbot | Shirik: @ sandbox became invalid: EBADMAIN: 4 not enough memory |
| 23:53.39 | Dagmar | Use mayonaisse-cooling. |
| 23:53.42 | Dagmar | It's the new rage |
| 23:53.50 | bleeter | mayonaisse and bacon? |
| 23:53.50 | Shirik | !lua print("2") |
| 23:53.50 | batbot | Shirik: 2 |
| 23:53.50 | KarlKFI|work | actually my hands are warm, someone finally turned downt he air conditioning to refrigerator, up from the arctic winter setting |
| 23:53.54 | Shirik | Well it recovers |
| 23:53.54 | wobin | bacon mayonaisse? |
| 23:53.56 | theorbtwo | I got a fancy server box cheap, dead quiet. Naturally, being a server, it had horrible graphics, so I got a new card to put in it... and it's no longer niceand quiet. |
| 23:54.21 | bleeter | theorbtwo: aye been there, done that. never again ;) |
| 23:54.27 | Shirik | cheers at batrick |
| 23:54.38 | batrick | =) |
| 23:54.44 | Shirik | how much work did you do inside __gc? |
| 23:54.49 | Shirik | You haven't reopened any holes have you? |
| 23:55.11 | batrick | i very much doubt it |
| 23:55.17 | batrick | want the source code? |
| 23:55.39 | batrick | i know ur a windows boy, source code might ruin your "everything much be a black box" ideas |
| 23:55.44 | batrick | =P |
| 23:55.47 | Esamynn | lol |
| 23:55.53 | KarlKFI|work | ouch |
| 23:55.56 | Esamynn | ~lart batrick |
| 23:55.56 | purl | makes a balloon animal out of batrick |
| 23:56.11 | KarlKFI|work | lol |
| 23:56.17 | batrick | lol |
| 23:56.21 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 23:56.21 | purl | thanks, Esamynn |
| 23:56.30 | batrick | I didn't think it was that harsh |
| 23:56.32 | KarlKFI|work | a bat ballon, perhaps? |
| 23:56.56 | KarlKFI|work | meh... home james! |
| 23:57.06 | batrick | ah shirik is givin me the silent treatment now |
| 23:57.11 | Shirik | ? |
| 23:57.11 | batrick | time to sleep i guess |
| 23:57.17 | batrick | 19:55:17 < batrick> want the source code? |
| 23:57.17 | Shirik | I'm trying to work on something :P |
| 23:57.25 | Shirik | nah, black box is much more fun |
| 23:57.36 | batrick | thought as much |
| 23:58.32 | *** join/#wowuidev WaterRatj (i=Biffke@d54C17275.access.telenet.be) |
| 23:58.44 | |Jelly| | tickles Shirik. |
| 23:58.49 | WaterRatj | Can anyone tell me some Guild events don't work? |
| 23:59.17 | Esamynn | WaterRatj: some Guild events don't work |
| 23:59.20 | Thunder_Child | some guild events dont work |
| 23:59.24 | Thunder_Child | damit Esamynn |
| 23:59.27 | WaterRatj | ll |
| 23:59.29 | WaterRatj | *lol |
| 23:59.30 | Esamynn | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 23:59.30 | purl | Thunder_Child: FAIL! |
| 23:59.31 | WaterRatj | I ment p: |
| 23:59.41 | WaterRatj | Can anyone tell me why some DON't work ingame? p: |
| 23:59.52 | Esamynn | which ones? |
| 23:59.59 | Esamynn | and aren't all events in game? :P |
