| 00:00.16 | foxlit | There appears to be no good way to clear the "old" binding. |
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| 00:01.21 | foxlit | Can I look at another secure handler's environment from within a restricted environment? |
| 00:02.12 | foxlit | Make two distinct frames share the same environment would also work. |
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| 00:06.34 | foxlit | Meh. Wrapping a handler to get what I want smells. |
| 00:11.56 | Shirik | does it smell like strawberries? |
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| 00:27.17 | foxlit | While "Good morning", "Good afternoon", "Good evening" are acceptable greetings, "Good night" has the opposite meaning |
| 00:27.32 | foxlit | Which raises the question of how you greet people at this hour. |
| 00:28.34 | Shirik | you don't |
| 00:28.36 | Shirik | you say gtfo |
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| 00:30.04 | Gnarfoz | at which hour? |
| 00:30.24 | foxlit | 0230 |
| 00:30.27 | Gnarfoz | I don't have to ~ugt, right |
| 00:30.38 | bleeter | anyone got a timetable of the blizzcon ppv stream? stuffed if I can find one... |
| 00:30.44 | bleeter | proving hard to plan my weekend without it |
| 00:30.48 | Gnarfoz | also, 'hello' is quite universal ;> |
| 00:31.18 | foxlit | Suppose, as it were, that you were trying to be more formal than that. |
| 00:31.23 | Gnarfoz | bleeter: http://www.marlamin.nl/blizzcon/stream.php though I have no idea how reliable that data is |
| 00:31.44 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: what kind of formal meeting is happening at 02:30 ;D |
| 00:31.49 | Gnarfoz | (honest question) |
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| 00:32.15 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: beats me. |
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| 00:32.43 | Gnarfoz | and I suppose 'good evening' until an arbitrary point where you feel it's late enough/early enough to start replacing it with 'good morning' |
| 00:32.57 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: cheers, I presume that's whatever timezone California's in atm? |
| 00:33.03 | bleeter | PDT/PST etc. |
| 00:33.25 | Gnarfoz | bleeter: also no idea, just grabbed it from quakenet #blizzcon, but I'd assume those are local times |
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| 00:33.38 | Gnarfoz | (which would be P?T) |
| 00:33.50 | foxlit | So, people |
| 00:34.04 | foxlit | RayV FAQ promises amazing hi-definition resolution of 320x240 |
| 00:34.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah shitty huh |
| 00:35.08 | foxlit | (and they feel the need to p2p stream that) |
| 00:35.21 | Gnarfoz | what's the non-hd res? |
| 00:35.21 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 00:35.48 | Arrowmaster | non-hd is using flash |
| 00:36.08 | Arrowmaster | so they probably wont tell you the res |
| 00:36.13 | foxlit | I wonder if that's just a case outdated FAQ, or if they're really selling such crap for 40$ with a straight face. |
| 00:36.23 | Gnarfoz | how are those two points connected? oO |
| 00:38.16 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: simply: either it is really 320x240, or it is not. |
| 00:38.21 | Gnarfoz | http://rayvtech.vo.llnwd.net/o29/BLZ/Blizzcon Supertrailer_30fps_blizzard.flv < that should contain the res, right? |
| 00:38.29 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: I meant Arrowmaster's two points |
| 00:38.40 | Gnarfoz | non-hd = flash, thus no res |
| 00:39.43 | Arrowmaster | i ment its probably so shitty they dont want to admit what the res is |
| 00:39.47 | Gnarfoz | hm, I doubt the flash version is gonna be 640x480 though :> |
| 00:40.19 | Gnarfoz | well, I don't care about what they say or write on their page at all, but rather obviously the trailer is no indication |
| 00:40.27 | Gnarfoz | "we'll see", I guess |
| 00:42.02 | Beutju | in an editbox; can i change the spacing - the distance between several lines? |
| 00:43.17 | foxlit | http://www.pastey.net/121917 << puzzles me |
| 00:43.31 | foxlit | If I let it run, it doesn't output anything to chat and appears to crash the execution |
| 00:43.39 | foxlit | If I comment it out, everything is fine. |
| 00:43.59 | foxlit | (I ate an end on the pastey, but that's not it) |
| 00:44.36 | foxlit | Or perhaps it is. |
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| 00:54.21 | Duman | hmm |
| 00:56.56 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: http://bleeter.pastey.net/121919 (about as reliable as what you linked hehe) |
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| 01:04.56 | Shirik | rawrwrwrwr |
| 01:05.40 | bleeter | who let you in? |
| 01:05.49 | bleeter | CAIRREEENNNN |
| 01:05.51 | bleeter | |afk |
| 01:05.52 | bleeter | ;) |
| 01:07.03 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:07.06 | Shirik | I has no power |
| 01:07.16 | Shirik | and bleeter's all like "yeah well it's all 0 degrees here and shits" |
| 01:07.23 | Shirik | and I'm like "no fu it's humid and like 100 degrees" |
| 01:09.08 | bleeter | MOAR JIGGAWATTS |
| 01:09.11 | Bruners | name a decent replacement for NeedToKnow please |
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| 01:12.31 | Shirik | I'm not sure if this is a power outage or a brownout |
| 01:12.38 | Shirik | FPL, I come for you! |
| 01:15.25 | Shirik | Thank you for checking on the status of your concern. |
| 01:15.25 | Shirik | We are sorry to hear about any trouble you are having with your power. We are aware of an electric problem in your area. |
| 01:15.25 | Shirik | We have received your report and it has been entered into our system. |
| 01:15.36 | Shirik | I think Blizzard GMs work for my power company |
| 01:15.48 | Shirik | the level of usefulness of response is identical |
| 01:15.57 | Sabaren | Lol? |
| 01:16.38 | Shirik | nm |
| 01:16.43 | Shirik | they just gave additional information |
| 01:16.45 | Shirik | lol@the following |
| 01:16.47 | Shirik | Our initial investigation of your power outage has been completed. |
| 01:16.48 | Shirik | We have determined the source of the problem as a vehicle hitting a power pole or some other FPL equipment. |
| 01:17.07 | ScytheBlade1 | kaboom |
| 01:17.34 | foxlit | Shirik: you'll know that's the case when you start reading responses to someone else's support request that explain that they've turned off the power to their basement because they've cleared their old neighborhood's guild bank. |
| 01:17.57 | Sabaren | We have determined your instance disconnects as a Draenei space vessle hitting a temporal rift. |
| 01:18.08 | Sabaren | Yep, definitely possible you have a GM copy pasting to you. |
| 01:18.26 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:20.22 | bleeter | lol @ Sabaren |
| 01:20.26 | bleeter | nice one :) |
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| 01:49.51 | Arrowmaster | hmm no brew of the month club mail wtf |
| 01:49.58 | Arrowmaster | and the damn vendor wont sell to me |
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| 02:04.42 | Dashkal | hrm. Is there an addon that can take my trade skill recipies and sort them by auctioneer's market value? |
| 02:05.14 | Nechckn_AFK | sure skillet + lilsparky's workshop |
| 02:05.47 | Nechckn_AFK | the lilsparky branch of skillet, that is.. though LSW will work with the default UI or ATSW, too. |
| 02:06.44 | Nechckn_AFK | Best bang for the buck from the skillet+LSW combo, though. Sort by mat cost, show vendor, AH, or d/e value, and more |
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| 02:08.09 | Nechckn_AFK | http://www.wowace.com/addons/lil-sparkys-workshop/ et http://www.wowace.com/addons/skillet/repositories/lilsparkys-clone/files/ |
| 02:08.27 | DWSR | anyone here got an SSH endpoint? |
| 02:08.37 | Jerub | i've got thousands. |
| 02:08.37 | DWSR | That I can run my WoW through |
| 02:08.50 | Jerub | ah, fewer of those. |
| 02:08.50 | Kraps | FUCKER COULDN'T MOVE HIS SUV AWAY FROM THE CURB CUT SO I COULD GET OUT OF THE RAIN QUICKER |
| 02:10.15 | DWSR | Jerub: Any that I could borrow? |
| 02:10.22 | DWSR | Tor gets me like 4k ping |
| 02:10.30 | Jerub | i'm in AU |
| 02:10.39 | Jerub | so you'd get 800ms rtt to wow |
| 02:10.48 | Jerub | assuming your a murrikan. |
| 02:11.22 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 02:11.25 | DWSR | 800ms is livable though |
| 02:11.27 | DWSR | 4k isn't. |
| 02:13.16 | Jerub | can you msg me your ssh private key? |
| 02:13.35 | DWSR | ugh, I need to generate a new one. |
| 02:13.39 | DWSR | brb |
| 02:13.52 | Jerub | ssh-keygen -t dsa |
| 02:13.57 | DWSR | runnign doze. |
| 02:14.04 | Jerub | oh, of course. |
| 02:14.09 | ScytheBlade1 | puttygen |
| 02:14.14 | DWSR | idneed |
| 02:14.17 | DWSR | Already there |
| 02:14.30 | DWSR | and btw. |
| 02:14.36 | Jerub | my boss had a ssh client on his mobile phone. in the menu was 'paste ssh private key', i thought that was an awesome feature. |
| 02:14.37 | DWSR | by my private key you mean my public key, yes. |
| 02:14.48 | Jerub | yes. |
| 02:15.06 | Jerub | well, private as well, if you can include your passwords, full name and bank account details, that's good too. |
| 02:15.19 | Jerub | i can get your date of birth from your facebook once i have the other details. |
| 02:16.25 | DWSR | lol |
| 02:16.32 | DWSR | I'm generating a new key just for you |
| 02:23.59 | Kraps | k i'm in a better mode now |
| 02:25.26 | Kraps | mood |
| 02:25.32 | Kraps | gosh |
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| 02:31.04 | Dashkal | Nechckn_AFK: Sorry for going afk right after asking. Thank you much! |
| 02:31.33 | Nechckn_AFK | No worries, that should do what you need and more. Enjoy! |
| 02:31.56 | Dashkal | After browsing the page, definitely. I'm trying to make money on my inscription, and it's be much easier with these tools. |
| 02:32.05 | Dashkal | Memorizing which glyphs are hot is a pain |
| 02:32.17 | Nechckn_AFK | Ever so true |
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| 02:33.31 | Nechckn_AFK | Inscription makes other tradeskills look like kiddies' play |
| 02:34.11 | Nechckn_AFK | Once you find the pattern for your realm/faction it gets a tiny bit easier, though. Have fun. |
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| 02:57.48 | ZorbaTHut | it is really not fair that garrosh's champions have so much HP. I am starting to think that hellscream does not believe in a fair fight at all |
| 02:58.08 | kd3 | fair fight? |
| 02:58.09 | kd3 | ahahaha |
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| 03:05.24 | Shirik | [GLSA 200908-10] Dillo: User-assisted execution of arbitrary code |
| 03:05.28 | Shirik | I thought that said dildo :/ |
| 03:19.12 | durcyn | ~seen alestane |
| 03:19.14 | purl | alestane <n=alestane@c-66-30-209-28.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 5h 21m 14s ago, saying: '",nochanneling:Shadow Bolt" can be omitted as it will never be true. You never channel Shadow Bolt.'. |
| 03:30.07 | cog|away | *sigh* I need to get a "No I won't fix your computer" t-shirt |
| 03:30.11 | cog|away | or 10 |
| 03:30.19 | kd3 | I love mine |
| 03:30.24 | kd3 | tend to wear it at family get togethers |
| 03:30.27 | kd3 | >.> |
| 03:30.32 | ScytheBlade1 | 14, is my vote |
| 03:30.37 | ScytheBlade1 | No need to do the wash for 2 weeks |
| 03:30.37 | cogwheel | XD |
| 03:36.42 | cogwheel | < 1 min into the scan, 18 infected objects... |
| 03:36.47 | cogwheel | oh... there goes #25 |
| 03:36.57 | ScytheBlade1 | What'd you do? |
| 03:37.00 | cogwheel | not me |
| 03:37.03 | cogwheel | hence the tshirt |
| 03:37.06 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 03:37.07 | ScytheBlade1 | gotcha |
| 03:37.08 | cogwheel | *desire |
| 03:37.14 | ScytheBlade1 | nods |
| 03:37.32 | cogwheel | xp on a "designed for '98" machine |
| 03:37.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ouch |
| 03:42.49 | Jerub | cogwheel: my favourite so far is, "Linux: An ancient african word that means, 'no i will not fix your windows pc'." |
| 03:44.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ohh also a good option |
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| 03:52.05 | Shirik | Anyone here familiar with Apache Continuum or have any suggestions for free continuous integration servers? |
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| 04:04.39 | Shirik | tar: A lone zero block at 69224 |
| 04:04.45 | Shirik | YEAH WELL THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR CHANGING THE FORMAT |
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| 04:18.21 | Shirik | what exactly is the difference between `cat foo | command` and `command < foo` |
| 04:18.32 | Jerub | Shirik: the former starts one more process. |
| 04:18.46 | Shirik | but the result is the same |
| 04:18.53 | Jerub | the latter will actually let the command have the filehandle from disk, so it can do more introspection. |
| 04:19.10 | Jerub | (the former might, depending on the implemnetation of cat, and if cat is implemented by the shell or /bin/cat) |
| 04:28.29 | Shirik | ok |
| 04:28.31 | Shirik | vim is OP |
| 04:28.41 | Jerub | OP? |
| 04:28.46 | Shirik | I ran `vim /etc/init.d/some_file_that_did_not_exist` |
| 04:28.47 | Shirik | overpowered |
| 04:29.00 | Shirik | and vim automatically populated it with depend(), start(), stop(), etc. |
| 04:29.03 | Jerub | oh, right, it brought in a macro for an init script? |
| 04:29.04 | Jerub | sweet |
| 04:29.08 | Jerub | er template. |
| 04:29.14 | Jerub | that's trivial though. |
| 04:29.15 | Jerub | ;) |
| 04:29.20 | Shirik | so what |
| 04:29.23 | Shirik | totally didn't expect it P |
| 04:29.24 | Shirik | :P |
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| 04:55.48 | Shirik | Iriel: Do you have any experience with Apache Continuum? |
| 04:57.05 | Iriel | Is that the continuuous integration thing? |
| 04:57.50 | Iriel | Ah yes it is, -- we use it at work |
| 04:59.07 | Shirik | really |
| 04:59.10 | Shirik | do you like it? |
| 04:59.27 | Shirik | also, I think.... I just found a bug... in elinks |
| 05:01.16 | Iriel | It's ok. I guess it works reasonably well but it's kind of stupid |
| 05:01.22 | Shirik | what do you mean by stupid? |
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| 05:02.20 | Shirik | !quote PRIVMSG #wowuidev :poing |
| 05:02.20 | Shiibot | poing |
| 05:02.21 | batbot | Shirik, privmsg has not said anything with your given pattern. |
| 05:02.24 | Shirik | poing |
| 05:02.25 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:03.02 | Shirik | Iriel: I'm just beating my head against a wall trying to get it installed. If you have any other suggestions for continuous integrations servers, I'm all ears |
| 05:03.52 | Iriel | Err, I've heard good things about the atlassian one, bamboo I think? |
| 05:03.58 | Shirik | unfortunately, it's not free |
| 05:04.03 | Shirik | but I too have heard great things about it |
| 05:05.08 | Shirik | this is so wierd |
| 05:05.11 | Shirik | my server is blazing fast |
| 05:05.14 | Shirik | except for SSH |
| 05:05.24 | Shirik | for some reason SSH is running slow as mollasses |
| 05:14.16 | Jerub | that reminds me |
| 05:14.41 | bleeter | atlassian and good shouldn't appear in the same sentence!!! :P |
| 05:20.52 | Shirik | bleeter |
| 05:20.56 | Shirik | fix my continuum |
| 05:20.58 | Shirik | ty |
| 05:21.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Your space-time continuum? |
| 05:21.12 | Shirik | it's all like |
| 05:21.13 | Shirik | HTTP ERROR: 503 |
| 05:21.13 | Shirik | SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE |
| 05:21.18 | Shirik | then my logs say "loloolololol" |
| 05:21.38 | Shirik | ERROR 42Y07: Schema 'SA' does not exist |
| 05:21.41 | Shirik | most useful error ever |
| 05:21.47 | ScytheBlade1 | check your database |
| 05:21.52 | Shirik | what database! |
| 05:21.57 | Shirik | the instructions say "install and run" |
| 05:21.59 | ScytheBlade1 | maybe we have found your problem! |
| 05:22.58 | Shirik | http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-665 |
| 05:23.02 | Shirik | ... "this is completely normal" |
| 05:23.03 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 05:23.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I bet it is a first run type thing |
| 05:25.20 | Shirik | that doesn't change the fact that I'm getting HTTP 503 |
| 05:25.43 | bleeter | reverses the polarity of Shirik's neutron flow |
| 05:25.50 | bleeter | continuum fixed, dr who style!! |
| 05:26.14 | zenzelezz | "The Australian Federal Police database has been hacked, although 'hacked' might be too strong a word for what happens when someone gains access to a MySQL database with no root password" o_O |
| 05:27.29 | Shirik | awesome |
| 05:32.05 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:32.08 | Shirik | I think I epic fail |
| 05:32.18 | Shirik | I noticed that port 8080 was already in use, so I changed it to port 8090 |
| 05:32.32 | Shirik | It didn't occur to me that 8090 might already be in use... |
| 05:35.52 | zenzelezz | when making up ports, stick to five-digit ones |
| 05:36.11 | zenzelezz | and not obvious ones like 12345 |
| 05:39.41 | Ackis | rawr |
| 05:39.43 | Ackis | i'm an idiot |
| 05:39.46 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 05:39.50 | Ackis | lol |
| 05:40.10 | Ackis | I saw Cairenn's facebook status and imma like "where you going eh?" |
| 05:40.12 | Cairenn | Ackis: I was rather thinking that of you, given your comment on my FB |
| 05:40.13 | Cairenn | heh |
| 05:40.16 | Ackis | lol |
| 05:40.20 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 05:40.53 | ScytheBlade1 | has a sudden memory of Cairenn + facebook.... notes |
| 05:40.53 | Ackis | so I'm playing with a new app called google latitude lol it shares your location with your friends haha |
| 05:41.01 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: hush you |
| 05:41.20 | Ackis | ScytheBlade1: I'll give taht memory a 10 |
| 05:41.21 | Arrowmaster | thats not new |
| 05:41.28 | ScytheBlade1 | tries to remember that exact phrase |
| 05:41.36 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: I just found it lol |
| 05:41.53 | Arrowmaster | for what mobile are you using it? |
| 05:41.58 | Ackis | now i'm trying to find people going to blizzcon who have a blackberry/iphone |
| 05:42.02 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: blackberry and PC |
| 05:42.03 | Shirik | Cairenn: That one's not going to be dropped for a while |
| 05:42.43 | Shirik | If I were going to Blizzcon I would totally get a staff shirt that says something like "MMOUI - Our admins are 10s" |
| 05:42.50 | Ackis | lol |
| 05:43.14 | Ackis | so my dog got neutered today |
| 05:43.22 | Ackis | apparently they used laser surgery on him |
| 05:43.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Ackis: that's... a ... heck of a conversation topic change |
| 05:43.39 | Ackis | and all i can think about is the james bond movie where the lasers going at his crotch |
| 05:43.50 | ScytheBlade1 | man, lasers? |
| 05:43.56 | Ackis | yes lasers |
| 05:43.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Try the one with bond sitting in the chair |
| 05:45.09 | bleeter | Cairenn: fwiw, yes MSN is busted at the moment (even native client) |
| 05:45.19 | bleeter | can't recall if you use it, just figure if you're on the road etc. |
| 05:45.23 | Cairenn | bleeter: okay, thanks |
| 05:45.38 | bleeter | revert to 'use http method' if you really must ;) |
| 05:45.44 | Cairenn | :) |
| 05:45.55 | Ackis | what's wrong w/ msn? |
| 05:46.25 | bleeter | it's got users like you? :P |
| 05:46.42 | Ackis | :( |
| 05:46.43 | Ackis | ouch |
| 05:46.45 | Ackis | 2 points |
| 05:58.37 | Shirik | blah |
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| 06:05.04 | Shirik | huggles Cairenn |
| 06:05.29 | Cairenn | snuggles Shirik |
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| 06:18.22 | Cairenn | rofl, so very very true: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/08/18/funny-pictures-cat-traps-are-working/ |
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| 06:19.49 | Guest64910 | is it possible to put a picture in a frame? |
| 06:20.01 | Guest64910 | like a .jpg |
| 06:22.24 | Zyn- | very, but the prefered format is TGA :P |
| 06:22.36 | Guest64910 | i can do tga :) |
| 06:22.56 | Guest64910 | is there documentation somewhere on this? |
| 06:23.05 | Guest64910 | I haven't had much luck googling it |
| 06:23.20 | Arrowmaster | ~wowprogramming |
| 06:23.21 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons ~ http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob ~ a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 06:23.52 | Arrowmaster | !api settexture |
| 06:23.52 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'settexture': Texture:SetTexture, CalendarEventSetTextureID |
| 06:24.21 | Zyn- | that, and the example on this page also tells how to have an image in a frame : http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame |
| 06:24.34 | Guest64910 | aha |
| 06:24.37 | Guest64910 | thanks! |
| 06:27.15 | NightHawkTheSane | totally killed a character in tonight's d&d game. |
| 06:30.14 | Shirik | I.... think portage has lost its mind |
| 06:30.21 | Shirik | Calculating dependencies... done! |
| 06:30.21 | Shirik | [ebuild UD] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.14 [1.6.0.15] USE="-X -alsa -derby -doc -examples -jce -nsplugin -odbc" 0 kB |
| 06:30.25 | Arrowmaster | it had one to begin with? |
| 06:30.31 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure that says "installing this is both an upgrade and a downgrade" |
| 06:31.00 | nevcairiel | it always says UD when it downgrades |
| 06:31.04 | Shirik | oh does it? |
| 06:31.07 | nevcairiel | funny that it wants to downgrade, though |
| 06:31.13 | Shirik | I told it to, actually |
| 06:31.16 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 06:31.23 | Shirik | the U just threw me off |
| 06:34.08 | VonhintenHOME` | Ok, the 3rd ToC encounter.. the PVP, has to be nerfed |
| 06:34.14 | VonhintenHOME` | That shit is ridiculous |
| 06:34.38 | VonhintenHOME` | The designers on that one are smoking fucking crack |
| 06:34.41 | VonhintenHOME` | terrible |
| 06:49.01 | Zyn- | what now... |
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| 07:23.40 | Shirik | ok guys |
| 07:23.43 | Shirik | here's a wierd one |
| 07:24.19 | Shirik | During compilation: /etc/continuum/data/working-directory/2/nbproject/build-impl.xml:52: Could not create /etc/continuum/data/working-directory/lib/nblibraries-private.properties |
| 07:24.24 | Shirik | ok, fine, so I go take a look |
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| 07:25.15 | Shirik | working-directory is 777 |
| 07:25.19 | Shirik | but no lib folder |
| 07:25.22 | nevcairiel | why does it have a working directory in /etc ? o.O |
| 07:25.31 | Shirik | uh, let's not talk about that right now |
| 07:25.34 | Shirik | one thing at a time! |
| 07:26.46 | Shirik | eh, I just don't get it I guess |
| 07:26.52 | Shirik | these errors are cryptic |
| 07:27.06 | Shirik | I don't get these errors when I run the command by hand, just when I do it automatically |
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| 07:48.55 | Shirik | so |
| 07:49.06 | Shirik | we know there's some sort of sendq limit in WoW |
| 07:49.29 | Shirik | so, theoretically, with sufficient people, it should be possible to kick someone offline by spamming them with tells |
| 07:50.02 | Shirik | what do you think would be the reaction to an addon which responds to known spam by attempting to destroy their connection :3 |
| 07:51.20 | nevcairiel | Ban, imho. It goes against the addon rules |
| 07:51.28 | Shirik | where? |
| 07:52.19 | nevcairiel | "Add-ons will perform no function which, in Blizzard Entertainment's sole discretion, negatively impacts the performance of the World of Warcraft realms or otherwise negatively affects the game for other players." |
| 07:52.32 | Shirik | See, but there's the fun part |
| 07:52.40 | Shirik | how do you define "negatively impacts" |
| 07:52.42 | nevcairiel | " For example, this includes but is not limited to excessive use of the chat system," |
| 07:52.49 | nevcairiel | it even lists your case |
| 07:52.50 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 07:52.50 | Shirik | it's getting rid of spam |
| 07:53.04 | Shirik | Therefore it is quite arguable that it is reducing the use of the chat system |
| 07:53.52 | nevcairiel | the spam required to disconnect someone is probably the spam of a goldseller for 3 month |
| 07:54.07 | Shirik | [citation needed] |
| 07:54.32 | nevcairiel | if it even works |
| 08:01.27 | NightHawkTheSane | I can't imagine blizzard would be fond of vigilante justice. |
| 08:02.41 | Arrowmaster | i dont think you even can get disconnected for receiving too many chat messages, just sending |
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| 08:06.26 | Guest26168 | i have a .tga file in my addon's folder but i cant figure out how to get it to display |
| 08:06.32 | Guest26168 | right now its t:SetTexture("2.tga") |
| 08:06.52 | Guest26168 | anyone have an idea |
| 08:07.20 | Zyn- | hmm, is there any service or way to check where a transfered character comes from, by checking gear and what not ;S |
| 08:07.45 | Arrowmaster | i think wowprogress had a feature that did that |
| 08:08.02 | nevcairiel | theirs stopped working around the expansion release, or something |
| 08:08.04 | Zyn- | yeah HAD, checked it already but seemed to stop working at the end of 2008 |
| 08:09.30 | Zyn- | cause I'm very suspicious about a new transfer ... with that kind of gear and title, you don't transfer to where I am, or you're out of your mind |
| 08:10.14 | Zyn- | and I hope statistics doesn't reset on transfer, else this guy got insanely boosted :P |
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| 08:21.20 | ReAn` | http://fukung.net/v/17743/1248733123936.jpg <--- hahahahahahaha |
| 08:21.24 | ReAn` | semi nsfw |
| 08:21.46 | ReAn` | Teamwork \o/ |
| 08:24.16 | Jerub | curious to see if our porn filter picks that up |
| 08:24.42 | Arrowmaster | did that really happen? |
| 08:25.54 | ReAn` | it's not really porn |
| 08:26.12 | ReAn` | Arrowmaster, im not 100% sure, but they seem impressed enough |
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| 08:35.21 | Cairenn | well guys, time for me to go catch my cab to the airport |
| 08:36.01 | Cairenn | be good, try not to be too hard on the rest of my staff while I'm gone |
| 08:36.03 | Cairenn | L( |
| 08:36.06 | Cairenn | :) even |
| 08:36.06 | nevcairiel | Have a good trip |
| 08:38.19 | ReAn` | i assume blizzcon? |
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| 08:50.30 | nevcairiel | probably |
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| 09:22.54 | ReAn` | that's such a pissoff |
| 09:22.58 | ReAn` | i was going strong |
| 09:23.02 | ReAn` | questing like a beast, super fast |
| 09:23.07 | ReAn` | 20% bonus exp |
| 09:23.09 | ReAn` | rested |
| 09:23.11 | ReAn` | etc... |
| 09:23.31 | ReAn` | even group quests solo |
| 09:23.49 | ReAn` | then i encounter a measly 2person quest that requires killing nature immune mobs >_< |
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| 09:23.57 | ReAn` | COMPLETE BUZZKILL |
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| 09:47.06 | nevcairiel | so skip the damn quest :P |
| 09:50.32 | Vilkku | which one is it anyway? |
| 09:50.41 | Vilkku | also, anyone know if the new onyxia is fire immune as well? |
| 09:50.58 | nevcairiel | probably not, they dont do that anymore really |
| 09:51.58 | ReAn` | Vilkku: the one where you have to kill the runed giants in HFj, and mine thier corpses |
| 09:52.36 | Vilkku | I'm desperately trying to remember what HFj is |
| 09:52.43 | Vilkku | the fjord? |
| 09:52.55 | ReAn` | ya |
| 09:53.07 | Vilkku | what other HFs are there? |
| 09:53.19 | nevcairiel | HFP :p |
| 09:53.25 | ReAn` | Howling Fjord |
| 09:59.09 | ReAn` | that's why i added the j |
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| 10:27.18 | Aqua | Anyone else try to record their curse password lately? |
| 10:27.42 | sacarasc | I made mine into a number 1 pop song. |
| 10:29.52 | Wobin | http://www.teefury.com/ <-- classy shirt =P |
| 10:31.35 | Aqua | bah thsi is pissing me off |
| 10:32.49 | ReAn` | record? |
| 10:32.58 | ReAn` | why would you record a password? |
| 10:33.42 | Aqua | *recover |
| 10:33.44 | Aqua | sorry mistyped |
| 10:34.20 | Aqua | it doesn't do anything |
| 10:34.40 | ReAn` | correct email in account? |
| 10:35.47 | Aqua | should be, i enter my email and hit recover password and it just returns to the same page |
| 10:37.08 | ReAn` | prolly best to contact someone in #curseforge , they're the closest to curse.com you're gonna get methinks |
| 10:38.24 | Aqua | thanks |
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| 11:27.44 | Beutju | can i change the spacing in an edit box? the space between multiple lines? |
| 11:32.44 | Beutju | or can i make text in a font string copyable and markable via mouse? |
| 11:35.07 | ReAn` | Beutju: prolly the only way is a custom font w/ padding on the bottom... |
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| 11:43.05 | Beutju | hm |
| 11:45.38 | Gotai | Beutju, you can use EditBox:SetSpacing(spacing) |
| 11:46.27 | Beutju | works <3 =) |
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| 12:38.39 | MentalPower | IRC on the iPhone is not the easiest thing... |
| 12:40.32 | Arrowmaster | Aqua: dont do it from any forums page, it will NOT work |
| 12:41.38 | MentalPower | Well, time to board. Later all. |
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| 12:54.23 | bluspacecow | herro |
| 12:54.46 | bluspacecow | man i hate reading european forum posts knowing I can't post :( |
| 12:56.29 | nevcairiel | got banned? :P |
| 12:56.51 | bluspacecow | nah cant post |
| 12:56.57 | bluspacecow | i have a us account |
| 12:57.08 | nevcairiel | then why do you even read EU? |
| 12:57.16 | bluspacecow | b-b-b-b--bb-b-b-b-but i know the answer to their question |
| 12:57.23 | bluspacecow | i troll the PTR forums there |
| 12:57.27 | bluspacecow | for good posts |
| 12:58.01 | Vilkku | I tend to avoid the wow forums regardless of region |
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| 12:58.04 | bluspacecow | someone read http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10543375296&sid=1 and tell em the 3.2.2 PTR is patch is 1.5 GB because it has to update from the 3.01 PTR |
| 12:58.13 | Vilkku | realm forums are an exception |
| 12:58.46 | Vilkku | bluspacecow, will do |
| 12:59.08 | bluspacecow | because they have the sex ? |
| 12:59.31 | sacarasc | And us Europeans can't post on the US forums, which means our views get ignored by Blizz. |
| 13:00.00 | bluspacecow | kk ty Vilkku |
| 13:00.16 | Vilkku | bluspacecow: Actually, the 3.2.2 PTR patch is for the 3.01 PTR client - that's why it's one and a half gig. |
| 13:00.17 | bluspacecow | oh hey you know i'ld return zee favour if you want sac |
| 13:00.19 | Vilkku | do you approve? :P |
| 13:01.05 | bluspacecow | yeah basically its 1.5 GB because you have to patch from the 3.01 PTR client - the install process only copies the 3.01 Data from live not the 3.2 Data :) |
| 13:01.23 | bluspacecow | but you got the basics :) |
| 13:01.45 | bluspacecow | oh good i can go away with out that niggly "you must answer this post" gremlin in my head |
| 13:04.23 | Vilkku | :P |
| 13:04.45 | bluspacecow | *must resist typing up yet another forum post* |
| 13:05.57 | Wobin | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cyosgwaC8t4/SoUyF2nj3fI/AAAAAAAAATo/tbVF8cQGNS0/s1600-h/Tee+B.jpg |
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| 13:06.51 | olafski | oO |
| 13:07.20 | industrial | Oo |
| 13:07.32 | Wobin | FlashDance! |
| 13:07.54 | Wobin | (only gen Xers will get that =P) |
| 13:07.56 | bluspacecow | slash dance! |
| 13:08.04 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:09.42 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:16.11 | Lopeppeppy | thinks it's too quiet. |
| 13:18.26 | bluspacecow | *pounces and LICKS Lopeppeppy* |
| 13:18.41 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, at least someone's still around! Darned Blizcon stole all my friends! |
| 13:19.02 | bluspacecow | what is"Blizcon" ? |
| 13:19.11 | Lopeppeppy | Pure evil! |
| 13:19.27 | bluspacecow | i |
| 13:19.32 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.39 | bluspacecow | *1 tequila* |
| 13:19.40 | Lopeppeppy | Me too. Sadly, it's only 9am here. |
| 13:21.33 | bluspacecow | 1.21 am |
| 13:22.13 | Lopeppeppy | It's 5 o'clock somewhere. |
| 13:22.42 | foxlit | It's 1522 here |
| 13:22.46 | bluspacecow | what a cheery thought to get you through the day |
| 13:22.47 | foxlit | Close enough? |
| 13:22.55 | Lopeppeppy | I think so, foxlit. |
| 13:22.59 | Lopeppeppy | Now if only I weren't at work. |
| 13:23.14 | bluspacecow | depends ... is 4 o clock beer o clock ? |
| 13:23.45 | industrial | on fridays it is |
| 13:38.10 | zenzelezz | needs to find a Mac IRC client... other people keep talking to peppy before he can :( |
| 13:38.42 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 13:38.58 | Lopeppeppy | I hear that Adium is popular for Mac. I dunno what else is out there for it though. |
| 13:39.00 | foxlit | http://colloquy.info/ |
| 13:39.14 | zenzelezz | does Adium to IRC? I thought it was an IM |
| 13:39.19 | zenzelezz | *do |
| 13:39.45 | zenzelezz | foxlit: thanks, I'll try that |
| 13:40.09 | Lopeppeppy | It lists IRC chat on the front page... |
| 13:40.22 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, wait, duh, that's their SUPPORT chat. |
| 13:42.03 | zenzelezz | wonders if peppy is part-time blonde |
| 13:42.10 | zenzelezz | hides |
| 13:42.49 | nevcairiel | How are ATI Linux drivers these days? Still absolutely horrid? or did they improve? |
| 13:43.39 | zenzelezz | ATI Linux drivers... now that's a name I've not heard in a long time... a long time... |
| 13:45.07 | nevcairiel | I want to get a ThinkPad, but they only come with ATI or Intel cards |
| 13:45.15 | nevcairiel | at least the T Series |
| 13:46.34 | zenzelezz | I never understand why dentists ask "does that feel right?", my mouth never feels right for a few days afterwards |
| 13:47.03 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew, icky. |
| 13:47.15 | zenzelezz | not really, it just always feels odd |
| 13:47.23 | Lopeppeppy | icky dentists are ikcy |
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| 14:04.48 | Lopeppeppy | I love how casually insulting the older males on campus can be. "Must be a staff meeting, if you're the only one here." As if I'm not staff? |
| 14:07.42 | zenzelezz | maybe it was just a quirky way of saying "so all the men are somewhere else" |
| 14:08.26 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I'm very sure it was. I really wish that when everyone leaves the office suite, they would just close the front door (I'm all the way in the back). By the time they get to me, they are always already irritated at not being "helped". |
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| 14:37.12 | mikma | hih |
| 14:37.20 | Lopeppeppy | haw |
| 14:37.30 | mikma | 100gb for winxp, 250gb for ubuntu |
| 14:38.00 | Lopeppeppy | That's quite the music collection. |
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| 14:39.20 | mikma | i dont have music in my pc =/ |
| 14:39.27 | mikma | thay all are in my tablet |
| 14:41.49 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, wait, I read "winamp" instead of XP, my bad. |
| 14:41.54 | Lopeppeppy | Peppy cannot read, it seems. |
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| 14:47.54 | Beutju | where can i have a look at the different colors like |cff808080 this stuff? |
| 14:48.37 | nicoli_s | those are just html colors im pretty sure |
| 14:48.49 | Ackis | lies |
| 14:48.52 | zenzelezz | not even HTML, it's just hex |
| 14:49.13 | nicoli_s | yes but html colors are in hex as well |
| 14:49.21 | zenzelezz | not necessarily |
| 14:49.23 | Beutju | what stands cff then? |
| 14:49.24 | Seerah | !g hex color codes |
| 14:49.25 | batbot | Seerah: Hex Hub HTML Color Codes: Hexadecimal codes for named colors used ... <http://www.december.com/html/spec/color.html> |
| 14:49.26 | Beutju | for |
| 14:49.36 | zenzelezz | Beutju: the C isn't part of the color, it's part of the | |
| 14:49.42 | zenzelezz | |c means "here comes a color code" |
| 14:50.01 | Seerah | and the |c at the end means "color code finished!" |
| 14:50.20 | Seerah | or is it r?... |
| 14:50.23 | Seerah | I always forget |
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| 14:51.16 | foxlit | Seerah: it doesn't close. |
| 14:51.22 | Seerah | |c00000000Your text here|r |
| 14:51.22 | DWSR | Hey all, is there an addon (or an easy way) to shift all Blizzard UI panels down? |
| 14:51.27 | Seerah | then what's the |r? |
| 14:51.40 | foxlit | "Return me to the original color" |
| 14:51.46 | Seerah | aha! |
| 14:51.47 | Seerah | :D |
| 14:51.50 | Seerah | huggles foxlit |
| 14:52.02 | |Jelly| | tackles Peppy! |
| 14:52.10 | DWSR | does something |
| 14:52.20 | DWSR | I just want to fit in |
| 14:52.29 | Seerah | ~pat DWSR |
| 14:52.30 | purl | ACTION pats DWSR and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 14:52.40 | DWSR | :) |
| 14:52.44 | DWSR | hugs purl |
| 14:52.51 | DWSR | You're so cold and metalic but yet so warm |
| 14:53.11 | foxlit | # In no way is he stupid... In no way is his brain impaired... That's not true. He smiled at you! |
| 14:53.17 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Jelly-dear. |
| 14:53.20 | Lopeppeppy | looks around for Shirik. |
| 14:53.27 | Shirik | wut |
| 14:53.34 | Lopeppeppy | Morning! *tackle* |
| 14:53.36 | |Jelly| | pounces on Shirik and holds him down so Peppy can tickle him! |
| 14:53.38 | Seerah | dog pile on Shirik!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:53.41 | Shirik | >< |
| 14:53.47 | DWSR | piles dogs on Shirik |
| 14:54.03 | Seerah | I think one licked you in the ear |
| 14:54.50 | DWSR | Is there an easy way to move all of the Blizzard UI panels (character pane, social pane, etc.) down? |
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| 14:55.12 | foxlit | May I suggest the thermonuclear option of moving UIParent? |
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| 14:55.28 | Shirik | ow |
| 14:55.33 | DWSR | foxlit: I'm not an addon developer, so you'll have to forgive me. Treat me with kid gloves. :P |
| 14:55.53 | DWSR | And if I move UI parent, won't I move a whole lot more than just the Blizzard panels? |
| 14:55.58 | DWSR | UIparent* |
| 14:56.01 | DWSR | ugh |
| 14:56.06 | Seerah | resizing world parent? |
| 14:56.07 | DWSR | s/UIp/UIP/ |
| 14:56.14 | Seerah | moving would move the bars, etc down, too |
| 14:56.19 | foxlit | I believe you've found out why it's the *thermonuclear* option :) |
| 14:56.20 | Seerah | errr UIParent |
| 14:56.34 | DWSR | Seerah: What would resizing it do? |
| 14:56.48 | Seerah | resize it ;) |
| 14:56.56 | DWSR | ~lart Seerah |
| 14:56.56 | purl | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up Seerah |
| 14:57.04 | Seerah | :D |
| 14:57.07 | Seerah | you asked :P |
| 14:57.30 | DWSR | That's one of those technically correct and entirely useless answers that I expect from technical support from a large computer corporation. |
| 14:57.34 | DWSR | Not from an IRC channel. :P |
| 14:57.51 | foxlit | # People, and, uh, freedon, and, uh, democracy, and stuff like that... |
| 14:57.57 | kd3 | you must not've been here long. we love doing that |
| 14:58.06 | DWSR | kd3: Been here a few months, anyway. |
| 14:58.10 | DWSR | Been on IRC a long time. |
| 14:58.35 | DWSR | Could I specifically adjust the positioning of the interface panels, without moving UIParent? |
| 14:59.08 | Seerah | one by one, but then you'd also have to make sure they never get moved back by any code in the UI that tries to reposition them later |
| 14:59.18 | Seerah | (not hard, but tedious) |
| 14:59.32 | Seerah | I suppose it depends on how much you would want moved |
| 14:59.34 | foxlit | I'd say it's more like evil than tedious. |
| 14:59.43 | Seerah | shrugs :) |
| 14:59.48 | Seerah | potato potahto |
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| 14:59.56 | DWSR | Seerah: Profs (but I use DoubleWide Professions), char pane, social pane, quest log. |
| 15:00.01 | foxlit | That code is secure, yours is not. The framework is used for all sorts of crap. |
| 15:00.34 | Ackis | DWSR: isn't double wide redundant? |
| 15:00.36 | foxlit | To figure out how to tell it to get stuffed, you'd have to actually figure out how it works. |
| 15:00.39 | Seerah | the placement of those is all controlled by one function, iirc |
| 15:00.42 | DWSR | Ackis: DoubleWide for the quest log is. |
| 15:00.49 | Shirik | has anyone ever heard of a company throttling SSH? |
| 15:00.54 | Seerah | or maybe just the sliding bit |
| 15:00.55 | DWSR | Shirik: Yes. |
| 15:01.01 | Shirik | I think my ISP does |
| 15:01.11 | DWSR | It's possible. |
| 15:01.24 | DWSR | You should just have your SSHd on the other side listen on port 443 or something |
| 15:01.49 | DWSR | Something where encrypted traffic is expected. |
| 15:03.14 | DWSR | is curse really slow for anyone else? |
| 15:03.24 | Fisker | http://geekner.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/df/df5ae08587cbc447b80cd6c7433b15bc01eb1a38.jpg <-damn what do you call that? |
| 15:03.50 | DWSR | Fisker: A bug. |
| 15:03.56 | Fisker | slaps DWSR around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:04.03 | Seerah | rofl |
| 15:04.12 | _rane | looks like TF2 |
| 15:04.34 | Lukian | spies have 3 hands! :D |
| 15:04.53 | Seerah | that's how they get the job done |
| 15:04.54 | foxlit | Seerah: it's the whole UIPanel mess we're talking about. |
| 15:04.58 | Seerah | yeah |
| 15:05.00 | Gnarfoz | duke nukem could have 2 feets in enemies' faces and could still walk and jump |
| 15:05.01 | Gnarfoz | beat that |
| 15:05.10 | foxlit | It has its own delegate frame just to pass things through attributes. |
| 15:05.46 | Seerah | if you just "move" those frames, you lose the ability to slide, etc |
| 15:06.24 | foxlit | DWSR: Try frame:SetAttribute("yoffset", 42) |
| 15:06.44 | DWSR | foxlit: frame is the name of the frame that I'm trying to move, correct? |
| 15:07.10 | foxlit | yes. |
| 15:07.24 | DWSR | Forgive, but I don't know any of the frame names for anything |
| 15:07.35 | DWSR | Unless they're something rediculously intelligent like QuestLogFrame |
| 15:07.45 | Seerah | use this while your mouse is over the frame in question /run print(GetMouseFocus():GetName()) |
| 15:07.54 | DWSR | ah, many thanks. |
| 15:08.15 | Elusive | Dang, been looking for that little command for awhile now, Seerah. |
| 15:08.16 | Elusive | Thanks lol. |
| 15:08.16 | Seerah | make sure you get the frame itself and not a header or a button |
| 15:08.19 | foxlit | SpellBookFrame, QuestFrame, DressUpFrame, LFGParentFrame, CharacterFrame and so on. |
| 15:08.52 | DWSR | foxlit: Ah, so they are actually intelligent. |
| 15:08.56 | DWSR | that's nice. |
| 15:09.13 | Pneumatus | Elusive: you could also /framestack, however it is pretty broken as it doesnt account for UI scale :< |
| 15:09.25 | foxlit | pastey is being spammed again :/ |
| 15:09.44 | nicoli_s | wth is that pic you posted fisker? |
| 15:10.07 | nicoli_s | and has anyone tried out section 8 yet? that game is fucking awesome |
| 15:10.15 | Pneumatus | Fisker: that guy looks like he has 3 hands |
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| 15:11.30 | DWSR | Character Pane = PaperDollFrame? |
| 15:11.44 | Seerah | I think so |
| 15:11.46 | foxlit | no. |
| 15:11.51 | foxlit | or, well, yes. |
| 15:11.58 | foxlit | But PaperDollFrame is just one of the tabs in that container. |
| 15:12.03 | DWSR | ah |
| 15:12.04 | Pneumatus | this ^^ |
| 15:12.15 | DWSR | How do I get the container frame? |
| 15:12.16 | foxlit | The frame that you actually want is called CharacterFrame |
| 15:12.19 | DWSR | k |
| 15:13.59 | DWSR | ok |
| 15:14.05 | DWSR | So foxlit: That didn't do anything |
| 15:14.25 | foxlit | Right. |
| 15:14.35 | foxlit | frame:SetAttribute("UIPanelLayout-yoffset", 42) |
| 15:15.19 | DWSR | That works, but I was thinking that I needed a negative number. ;) |
| 15:16.44 | DWSR | ok, so I need to do that for every frame? |
| 15:16.50 | Seerah | yep |
| 15:17.57 | DWSR | Ok, so the only thing I need to do is make that run on every login. |
| 15:18.10 | [Ammo] | onliner addon! |
| 15:18.17 | DWSR | indeed |
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| 15:20.48 | Lopeppeppy | eyeliner addon? Where? :P |
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| 15:22.15 | DWSR | Is FriendsFrame a subframe of SocialFrame or something? |
| 15:30.29 | Seerah | that would be your friends list, I assume, so yes |
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| 15:35.18 | DWSR | Is there a way to call SetAttribute on a whole bunch of frames at once? |
| 15:41.43 | Fisker | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/728533f116271acf0e5ec1ed4beb1495.jpg <-take a good hard look at my motherfucking boat |
| 15:42.50 | foxlit | Your boat is doing WHAT? |
| 15:44.19 | Lopeppeppy | Ouch. |
| 15:44.32 | Lopeppeppy | What boat? |
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| 15:47.18 | nicoli_s | stop being silly fisker |
| 15:47.52 | Seerah | DWSR: local frames = {CharacterFrame, Social Frame, ...} for k,v in pairs(frames) do v:SetAttribute("UIPanelLayout-yoffset", 42) end |
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| 15:51.24 | Fisker | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/eabfdc0fc998b5100bcf24cb7f40457d.jpg <-that boat nicoli_s |
| 15:51.45 | foxlit | Did you kill that fish? |
| 15:51.51 | Seerah | is that also your rice bowl? |
| 15:51.57 | Seerah | what game is that, btw? |
| 15:52.00 | Fisker | none of them are dead foxlit :o |
| 15:52.03 | Fisker | mini ninjas |
| 15:52.14 | foxlit | The blood stains say otherwise. |
| 15:52.17 | Fisker | haven't found out if i can use my boat/hat as a ricebowl |
| 15:52.26 | Fisker | it's red skin durr |
| 15:52.39 | Seerah | you mean scales? :P |
| 15:53.55 | Fisker | whatever Seerah |
| 15:54.16 | Pneumatus | Fisker: what are those SSs of? |
| 15:54.21 | Pneumatus | it looks like some kind of 3d Soldat |
| 15:54.44 | Fisker | mini ninjas |
| 15:57.50 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.33 | Pneumatus | semicolons when they arent needed bugs me :< |
| 16:00.18 | nicoli_s | i always feel the need to put in semicolons, too much c# |
| 16:00.21 | foxlit | Given the missing newline convnetions there, I find them helpful. |
| 16:00.52 | Pneumatus | link.active, link.child, link.parent = true, bindOwners[newbind]; |
| 16:01.09 | Pneumatus | link.parent intentionally not being set? |
| 16:01.17 | foxlit | It's intentionally being set to nil. |
| 16:02.16 | foxlit | I suppose it's worth spelling out. |
| 16:03.56 | Pneumatus | ooh, mini ninjas is on the DS |
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| 16:17.59 | Cruciformer | How do I make an EditBox read-only, so a user can cut-n-paste a prepared string but not change it? |
| 16:18.31 | nevcairiel | I dont think thats possible |
| 16:18.42 | foxlit | Surely it is |
| 16:18.49 | foxlit | It's just a matter of how badly you want to hack it. |
| 16:18.58 | nevcairiel | You can OnUpdate refresh the change |
| 16:19.12 | foxlit | [There's a text-changed script handler too] |
| 16:19.13 | Cruciformer | I suppose I could trap onchange events and set the text back to the saved value |
| 16:19.28 | nevcairiel | OnUpdate is more hack! |
| 16:19.29 | Cruciformer | or onupdate whatever its called |
| 16:21.17 | Cruciformer | I was hoping setting Enablekeyboard(false) would do it but then I dont think they can Ctrl+C |
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| 16:29.25 | Cruciformer | yeah that exactly what DBM does with its update popup. On OnTextChanged they set it back to the same value |
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| 16:29.41 | Cruciformer | bit of a hack |
| 16:31.39 | foxlit | I think it's easier to just not bother. |
| 16:31.50 | foxlit | User clicks a button, you pop up a box with the copyable link. |
| 16:32.00 | foxlit | If they destroy that link rather than copy it, it's their own problem. |
| 16:32.09 | foxlit | Worst case scenario is that they click your button again. |
| 16:32.37 | Cruciformer | In my particular case its more than just a url its a string to export to a website, that needs to be calculated. |
| 16:32.43 | cogwheel | woo hoo... first credit card order ever at work and it was declined >< |
| 16:33.04 | Cruciformer | trapping OnTextChanged is all of 3 lines of code, not a big deal. |
| 16:33.07 | Lopeppeppy | Ouch! Had you already filled the order, or do you run the cards first? |
| 16:33.15 | cogwheel | we run the cards first |
| 16:33.33 | cogwheel | we actually don't start shipping until late October |
| 16:33.51 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent. I've known small businesses who don't, the order goes to billing and packing at the same time, so things get shipped out ASAP... when sometimes later the card is declined. :( |
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| 16:51.40 | VonhintenHOME` | man, facebook really needs to get their shit together. the site is fucked half the time I try to go to it |
| 16:52.37 | Ackis | ZOMG FACEBOOK |
| 16:52.39 | Ackis | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 16:52.40 | Ackis | w00t |
| 16:52.44 | Ackis | ZOMG BLIZZCON!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:52.48 | Ackis | ahhh W00T |
| 16:52.52 | Ackis | penis |
| 16:52.53 | Lopeppeppy | aaaaagh! |
| 16:52.55 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 16:52.59 | mikma | penis penis penis lol |
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| 16:58.20 | cogwheel | onoes! i escared of teh penis i need a huggle |
| 16:58.50 | VonhintenHOME` | ackis... penis... both sound the same, coincidence? I think not. |
| 16:58.52 | Lopeppeppy | .... um... /huggle ? |
| 16:58.57 | Lopeppeppy | and /therapy as well. :P |
| 16:59.11 | Ackis | :P |
| 16:59.13 | cogwheel | :P |
| 17:01.39 | cogwheel | Ackis: lol nub... (just saw your question on FB) |
| 17:01.53 | Ackis | heh yah |
| 17:01.54 | Ackis | brain fart |
| 17:02.14 | Elusive | Just to troll a little bit, works fine for me 100% unless they're doing site maintence. |
| 17:02.26 | Elusive | What about magina? |
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| 17:13.02 | Cruciformer | I wish http://wowprogramming.com/docs/scripts/OnTextChanged was actually true :( I see no evidence of that second bool being passed |
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| 17:20.50 | Tentacled | all right, I'm officially out of ideas. I have a ScrollFrame, with 211 widgets in it, but all are hidden. Its ScrollChild/Frame, however, refuses to resize below 400, and - as my ScrollFrame is only 100 in height - it keeps scrolling, despite having no content. What the heck..? |
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| 17:25.22 | Lopeppeppy | AFK sheeple-time! |
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| 17:38.40 | Thunder_Child | was the UI pannel not interesting enough to bring it back this year? |
| 17:39.12 | Seerah | The Guild one must have been..... |
| 17:39.13 | Thunder_Child | Panel* |
| 17:39.24 | Thunder_Child | not really |
| 17:39.25 | Seerah | even though the UI one was overflowing :P |
| 17:39.27 | kd3 | I'm assuming it's the 'game systems panel' |
| 17:40.02 | Thunder_Child | Seerah, the guild one had a line out the door that doubled back twice |
| 17:40.08 | kd3 | it's still listed here: http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon/events/index.xml |
| 17:40.22 | Thunder_Child | i'm looking here http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/august/schedule-print-en-US.jpg |
| 17:40.24 | Seerah | TC: yeah, hubby and I didn't want to wait in the line so we didn't see it ;) |
| 17:40.35 | Seerah | but I heard that there was no UI panel |
| 17:40.53 | Tentacled | Well what the heck. |
| 17:40.54 | Thunder_Child | Seerah, i was in line with Esamynn|Away since i had nothing better to do and i had never heard of the guild. i was not impressed |
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| 17:42.06 | Tentacled | ScrollFrame:GetHeight() == 68 ScrollFrameChild:GetHeight() == 50 (so it's way less than the parent) ScrollFrame:GetVerticalScrollRange() == 94 ??? |
| 17:42.54 | Cruciformer | o set it with SetVerticalScrollRange() |
| 17:43.02 | Cruciformer | s/^o/so/ |
| 17:43.40 | Tentacled | No such function, sir. |
| 17:44.02 | Tentacled | It's calculated automatically, but hell knows what it bases on in this case. |
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| 17:46.04 | Cruciformer | Use SetMinMaxValues() then SetValue()? |
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| 17:48.20 | Seerah | wtf - 11 things in the wowi queue in just over an hour |
| 17:48.23 | Seerah | can't go away for anything :P |
| 17:48.43 | Tentacled | Cruciformer: on the scrollbar, you mean..? hmm. |
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| 17:49.27 | jnwhiteh | bye bye |
| 17:49.40 | Thunder_Child | ~lart jnwhiteh |
| 17:49.40 | purl | frags jnwhiteh with his BFG9000 |
| 17:50.03 | nevcairiel | Seerah: noticing that cair is gone now, eh |
| 17:50.16 | Seerah | .... this UI has a wowmatrix file for pocketplot... -.- |
| 17:50.22 | Seerah | nev: :) |
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| 18:19.10 | Cruciformer | ./kskprep 22 |
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| 18:28.23 | foxlit | Can I escape macro conditional metacharacters somehow? |
| 18:28.33 | nevcairiel | wut? |
| 18:28.42 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 18:28.44 | foxlit | [foo] [; bar |
| 18:28.47 | nevcairiel | you want them in the value |
| 18:28.51 | nevcairiel | hrm |
| 18:28.52 | nevcairiel | no idea |
| 18:29.08 | nevcairiel | tried the usual suspects already? |
| 18:29.28 | foxlit | No, I've beenslacking |
| 18:29.53 | foxlit | My intuition suggests I'm going to have to encode them. |
| 18:30.12 | nevcairiel | I would be surprised if they coded escaping in that func |
| 18:48.39 | Lopeppeppy | Hummy hum hum Peppy hum... sheeple are boring... |
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| 18:50.50 | foxlit | Hrm. |
| 18:50.55 | foxlit | I know that self:SetBindingClick(false, newbind, proxy, rkey); runs |
| 18:51.13 | foxlit | And that it has reasonably same arguments -- "BUTTON4", frame ref, and "r1" |
| 18:51.27 | foxlit | Yet something comes along and wipes that binding. |
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| 18:57.41 | Elusive | if (!UnitBusy("self")) then SetEmotionState("Bored As Hell"); QuitLife(); end |
| 18:57.47 | Lopeppeppy | Mrph. |
| 18:58.47 | durcyn | suicide is painless. |
| 18:59.05 | Elusive | Depends on what time frame you're talking about |
| 18:59.24 | Lopeppeppy | And who you're talking about. |
| 18:59.40 | Elusive | The moments leading up to death you feel pain, pending on the way you're going out... afterwords it doesn't really matter? |
| 19:00.08 | Lopeppeppy | Depends who you're talking about. |
| 19:00.16 | Elusive | ^ |
| 19:00.49 | durcyn | ffs, i would've figured Peppy would at least get the MASH reference. |
| 19:01.30 | sacarasc | It's easy if you try. |
| 19:01.59 | Lopeppeppy | durcyn, I'm tired, gimme a break. :) |
| 19:02.52 | zenzelezz | hands Lopeppeppy <br/> |
| 19:03.52 | Lopeppeppy | I really hate it when people get pissy that they sat on their hands too long, and someone is in line ahead of them now. |
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| 19:16.18 | foxlit | whee |
| 19:16.30 | foxlit | I can't register a state driver for an empty string :) |
| 19:22.38 | foxlit | lua> t = {"Foo", "Bar", Foo={v=1}, Bar={v=2}}; for k,v in pairs(t) do u = v.v; end end print("?") |
| 19:22.38 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: '<eof>' expected near 'end' |
| 19:22.47 | foxlit | lua> t = {"Foo", "Bar", Foo={v=1}, Bar={v=2}}; for k,v in pairs(t) do u = v.v; end print("?") |
| 19:22.48 | lua_bot | foxlit: ? |
| 19:23.27 | foxlit | lua> print(("").v); |
| 19:23.28 | lua_bot | foxlit: nil |
| 19:23.32 | foxlit | how... nice. |
| 19:24.25 | nevcairiel | is v supposed to be anything on a non-empty string? |
| 19:24.46 | foxlit | Yep, apparently you can index strings. |
| 19:25.36 | nevcairiel | Of course, they give you the string "class" |
| 19:26.47 | foxlit | lua> v = ""; v.foo = "error"; |
| 19:26.47 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'v' (a string value) |
| 19:27.10 | foxlit | I remember that error message. |
| 19:27.15 | Dagmar | Naughtily-scoped variables |
| 19:27.18 | nevcairiel | only read-only access :) |
| 19:27.20 | Dagmar | ...or could that vicariously-scoped. |
| 19:27.45 | foxlit | It's wording is misleading -- it's not the "attempt to index" that's a problem, it's the assignment. |
| 19:27.51 | foxlit | s/'// |
| 19:29.56 | Dagmar | Vicarious scoping |
| 19:31.18 | Dagmar | I just wish they'd stop using 'index' as a verb |
| 19:31.46 | Dagmar | Doing *that* would make it lesss confusing |
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| 19:33.44 | foxlit | "We’ll be releasing a minor bug fix patch to version 3.2.0a. This sort of patch is very small in size, and we use them to fix specific issues that can’t be hot-fixed. Issues addressed with this patch: " |
| 19:33.48 | foxlit | (You can guess the rest) |
| 19:35.25 | Dagmar | * Reducing DK damage output byu 30% across the board |
| 19:35.41 | Dagmar | * Druids will now be slightly less hairy in bear form and shed 60% less in cat form. |
| 19:35.48 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:35.51 | nevcairiel | just the UI hotfix |
| 19:36.07 | Dagmar | * Hunter pets will no longer randomly flip their talents off and on. |
| 19:36.32 | Dagmar | * Hunter pet bar abilities which have been removed will be restorable with /petbarreset |
| 19:36.42 | Dagmar | hits the bong some more |
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| 19:38.36 | Duman | woo |
| 19:38.40 | Duman | mini-patch incoming |
| 19:38.42 | Duman | 3.2.0a |
| 19:38.55 | Duman | oh, foxlit said that already |
| 19:39.04 | Duman | missed it in the scroll |
| 19:39.05 | durcyn | don't you feel like an asshole. |
| 19:39.08 | Duman | clearly |
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| 19:45.18 | Dashkal | O.o interesting macro exploit. Someone have a brain fart I take it? |
| 19:46.15 | nicoli_s | someone just got lazy when implementing dump |
| 19:46.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm curious how they'll fix it |
| 19:46.31 | mikma | foxlit: link us please: ) |
| 19:46.59 | Dashkal | Make dump inherently tainted? |
| 19:47.03 | Yssaril | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19377969803&sid=1 |
| 19:47.06 | ScytheBlade1 | There is a really easy way, I'm just curious if that is what they'll do |
| 19:47.32 | Dashkal | Ahh, good. |
| 19:47.34 | nevcairiel | Dont they have a function already to force a code path to be insecure? |
| 19:48.03 | Dashkal | !api Target |
| 19:48.04 | lua_bot | Found 37 possible matches for 'Target'. Please be more specific |
| 19:48.09 | Dashkal | drat |
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| 19:51.14 | mikma | "Fixed an exploit players were using with / commands " |
| 19:51.15 | mikma | hehe |
| 19:51.33 | Lukian | o.O |
| 19:52.16 | Dashkal | cackles |
| 19:52.18 | durcyn | did the freya beam animation get fixed too, or no |
| 19:52.20 | Dashkal | Ok, that was amusing. |
| 19:52.46 | Kaso | yes it is fixed durcyn |
| 19:52.56 | Kaso | What's the exploit? ive not being following |
| 19:53.37 | Lopeppeppy | Probably the /dump thing |
| 19:54.10 | ScytheBlade1 | When are they rolling that patch out? |
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| 19:54.59 | Dashkal | "Soon" |
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| 20:00.13 | durcyn | if it's not the 25th, i will eat my hat. |
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| 20:05.31 | NeoTron | what be this /dump thing you speak of? |
| 20:07.35 | Thunder_Child | waaaa, http://www.sundayat10.com/?num=615 |
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| 20:07.51 | ZorbaTHut | anyone around with a horde mage on a US server who'd be willing to port a newbie character to dalaran? i need to collect some locational data on the new teleporters :) |
| 20:13.51 | cogwheel | anyone else get access denied on http://blogs.msdn.com ? |
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| 20:14.07 | Thunder_Child | yup cog |
| 20:14.11 | durcyn | oh, huh, they're pushing it now, not on a tuesday, interesting. |
| 20:14.36 | Lopeppeppy | Must feel it's important enough not to wait. |
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| 20:32.22 | Dashkal | Complete acces to skip protection is somewhat urgent :p |
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| 20:36.22 | NeoTron | exploit patches are deployed outside the ordinary schedule |
| 20:46.57 | VonhintenHOME` | wow, patcher fail... |
| 20:47.08 | VonhintenHOME` | Unable to Validate Game Version |
| 20:47.13 | VonhintenHOME` | after patching |
| 20:49.33 | Thunder_Child | hmm...i dont think HoN should be $30 |
| 20:49.48 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 20:49.53 | Shirik | why did you make my car battery die |
| 20:51.08 | VonhintenHOME` | You know, I spent $120 on a portable battery charger a couple years ago, money well spent |
| 20:51.18 | VonhintenHOME` | I've already used it several times for my own and others cars |
| 20:51.21 | Shirik | that doesn't do much if the battery is truly dead :) |
| 20:51.24 | Shirik | but yeah, I plan to get one too |
| 20:51.35 | Shirik | you can't jump start your car for the rest of its life though |
| 20:51.43 | Shirik | the battery is supposed to have a purpose :P |
| 20:51.53 | Thunder_Child | to die |
| 20:51.57 | Thunder_Child | and cost money |
| 20:52.11 | Dagmar | They don't do it often tho |
| 20:52.17 | VonhintenHOME` | well, often times you just need to be able to get the car running and let the alternator do the work to get you at least to the auto zone |
| 20:52.27 | Dagmar | That having been said, I'm probably replacing the alternator in my beemer tomorrow |
| 20:52.31 | Shirik | My school pays people to do that :) |
| 20:52.44 | Shirik | I just flagged down one of the guys and he jumped my car and I went to sears auto center and done |
| 20:53.27 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, a lot of parking attendants carry those units too.. but often they aren't kept up and don't work, like happened the other day to a friend of mine |
| 20:54.30 | VonhintenHOME` | if you get a decent one, they have cigarette lighter ports on them, strong lights, etc. |
| 20:54.50 | Shirik | yeah the thing they had was huge |
| 20:54.56 | Shirik | AC ports on it, etc. |
| 20:55.38 | VonhintenHOME` | Yeah, that thing, and a cigarette light USB plug are always in my car |
| 20:55.45 | VonhintenHOME` | light=lighter |
| 20:55.58 | Shirik | cigarette lighter usb plug? |
| 20:56.10 | Shirik | steps down 12V to 5V in the shape of a USB plug? |
| 20:56.16 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, to charge the IPhone |
| 20:56.21 | Shirik | addict |
| 20:56.52 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, the iphone's gps uses a lot of juice, that thing saved my ass on a drive down to miami |
| 20:58.15 | VonhintenHOME` | http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10826&cs_id=1082602&p_id=3523&seq=1&format=2 |
| 20:58.26 | VonhintenHOME` | 97 cents... can't lose |
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| 21:04.23 | Shirik | pretty good deal |
| 21:04.50 | Shirik | "Car charger to USB Female" |
| 21:04.55 | Shirik | Do they really have to qualify that? |
| 21:05.02 | Shirik | I would like to see a "car charger to USB male" |
| 21:05.12 | Shirik | "so you can inject power INTO your computer!" |
| 21:05.18 | VonhintenHOME` | heh, well, take a look at their adapter section, you'll understand why |
| 21:05.35 | VonhintenHOME` | that place has every ridiculous combination of adapters and cables you can imagine |
| 21:05.37 | VonhintenHOME` | and cheap too |
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| 21:06.05 | Shirik | my point is more of a "car charger to USB male" can't really exist in any safe manner |
| 21:06.31 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, I know. Nothing wrong with being explicit :) |
| 21:06.55 | Thunder_Child | if your car had to cig lighters so one was male and the other was female to create a chain of destruction! |
| 21:06.59 | Thunder_Child | two* |
| 21:07.22 | Shirik | my car has a cigarette lighter and then a "power outlet" |
| 21:09.18 | VonhintenHOME` | Shirik, see, you can get a cigaratte lighter to male USB, then get one of these badboys! http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10314&cs_id=1031401&p_id=362&seq=1&format=2 |
| 21:09.49 | VonhintenHOME` | (or badgirls, I should say) |
| 21:11.15 | Shirik | the objective being to have more hardware than just the cigarette lighter to female adapter |
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| 21:11.45 | Shirik | Or, I mean, if you really like sticking things in, maybe that's your thing |
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| 21:15.57 | Tuller | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDRjuG69u2I :P |
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| 21:30.22 | foxlit | # I just the other day got...an Internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday. |
| 21:33.15 | VonhintenHOME` | sigh.. did they reset the load out of date addons button again... |
| 21:33.24 | kd3 | of course |
| 21:33.26 | kd3 | for every patch |
| 21:33.30 | foxlit | Is it patch time yet? |
| 21:33.38 | Dagmar | Ooo! Send me on1 |
| 21:33.40 | kd3 | 3.2.0a got rolled out to fix /dump |
| 21:33.45 | Dagmar | s/on1/one!/; |
| 21:33.50 | foxlit | Hm, not here. |
| 21:34.05 | mikma | Sylvanas haven't even restarted yet |
| 21:34.24 | foxlit | (Shouldn't client patches be enforced by login servers?) |
| 21:34.42 | jaxdahl | foxlit, they are, kinda. |
| 21:35.04 | jaxdahl | you'll get a message that says corrupted files or some such |
| 21:35.12 | jaxdahl | if the server hasn't been patched |
| 21:35.34 | foxlit | Perhaps it's simply not touched Europe yet. |
| 21:35.40 | foxlit | What with our prime-time raiding and everything |
| 21:36.05 | Shirik | I love Java's extremely excessive strictness |
| 21:36.36 | foxlit | And its leather whip, presumably? |
| 21:36.45 | Shirik | final int foo; Constructor() { try { foo = bar(); } catch (SomeExceptionBarMightThrough) { foo = null; } } |
| 21:37.00 | Shirik | Error in the catch block: foo might have already been initialized |
| 21:37.01 | Cide | nice spelling of Throw there Shirik |
| 21:37.07 | Shirik | stfu |
| 21:37.12 | foxlit | You're assigning null to int. |
| 21:37.14 | kd3 | + forceinsecure(); |
| 21:37.16 | Shirik | WHATEVER |
| 21:37.16 | kd3 | oh that was easy |
| 21:37.18 | Shirik | point is |
| 21:37.21 | Shirik | wtf is it talking about |
| 21:37.23 | kd3 | emails away momentarily |
| 21:37.27 | Shirik | it's actually a URL |
| 21:37.31 | Cide | clearly its parser is screwed up? |
| 21:37.37 | Shirik | and bar() is URL's constructor |
| 21:37.47 | Shirik | which might throw MalformedURLException |
| 21:37.57 | krka_ | Shirik: it's hard for a compiler to know where in the block the exception is thrown |
| 21:38.01 | Shirik | Cide: It's been this way for a while, and last time I checked, it was intentional |
| 21:38.04 | foxlit | Anyway, it's perfectly valid laziness. |
| 21:38.23 | Cide | Shirik, why would that be intentional? |
| 21:38.25 | Cide | I mean |
| 21:38.25 | Shirik | It means it's literally impossible for me to have a static final URL object |
| 21:38.37 | Shirik | without doing something extremely bizzare |
| 21:38.54 | foxlit | Wouldn't temporary variables work? |
| 21:38.59 | krka | Shirik: make a helper function |
| 21:39.18 | Shirik | none of that should be necessary |
| 21:39.28 | krka | public static URL getURL(String s) { try { return new URL(s); } catch (Exception e) { return null; } } |
| 21:39.38 | Cide | foo = null; try { foo = bar(); } ... ? |
| 21:39.44 | krka | final URL myURL = getURL("blabla"); |
| 21:39.45 | Cide | or can you only assign it once during the constructor? |
| 21:39.47 | Shirik | nope |
| 21:39.50 | Shirik | can only assign it once |
| 21:39.50 | foxlit | Or simply stop tagging everything as final. |
| 21:39.57 | krka | final is nice though |
| 21:40.05 | Cide | seems like a strange language construct to me |
| 21:40.15 | Cide | don't know the use case though, since I don't know java |
| 21:40.24 | Duman | ahh, 1-line change to fix exploits |
| 21:40.24 | krka | it's like const in c++ |
| 21:40.27 | Shirik | It's the principle of least visibility, modified |
| 21:40.30 | kd3 | yar |
| 21:40.34 | foxlit | I'm disappointed. |
| 21:40.34 | Shirik | if you don't need to modify it |
| 21:40.37 | Shirik | why should it be modifiable |
| 21:40.44 | foxlit | They could've fixed *my* exploit using the same line. |
| 21:40.44 | Cide | krka, ah, true |
| 21:40.46 | foxlit | But did they? |
| 21:40.47 | Duman | kd3: what time you getting to LA? |
| 21:40.53 | kd3 | ~3pm |
| 21:40.57 | Shirik | It's really not like const in C++ though |
| 21:41.02 | Duman | kewl, you still ahve my cell # ? |
| 21:41.04 | Shirik | maybe if you considered everything is a pointer |
| 21:41.05 | Duman | (hasn't changed) |
| 21:41.10 | durcyn | ~seen alestane |
| 21:41.13 | purl | alestane <n=alestane@c-66-30-209-28.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 23h 43m 13s ago, saying: '",nochanneling:Shadow Bolt" can be omitted as it will never be true. You never channel Shadow Bolt.'. |
| 21:41.13 | kd3 | probably |
| 21:41.14 | Shirik | but const in C++ means a hell of a lot more |
| 21:41.15 | kd3 | looks for his phone |
| 21:41.36 | krka | final in java basically means only writable once in construction |
| 21:41.47 | Shirik | but it refers to the reference, instead of the actual object |
| 21:41.49 | Cide | but writable elsewhere? |
| 21:41.55 | krka | no, never writable |
| 21:41.57 | Cide | ok |
| 21:41.59 | krka | except when constructing |
| 21:42.07 | krka | it's very useful, i use it for fields to avoid bugs |
| 21:42.17 | krka | i.e. when i try to change something that shouldn't be changed |
| 21:42.41 | krka | also useful in methods and parameters, but i rarely use it for that |
| 21:42.55 | Shirik | I just don't see how the compiler can argue that value will be assigned twice |
| 21:43.04 | Shirik | does it think an exception might occur at assign-time? |
| 21:43.20 | Shirik | I don't believe that should be possible |
| 21:43.22 | Cide | isn't assignment atomic? |
| 21:43.32 | Shirik | only for volatiles I believe |
| 21:44.01 | krka | Shirik: the java compiler is fairly simple |
| 21:44.14 | krka | it doesn't do much inspection of code blocks |
| 21:44.38 | krka | it just sees "oh, assigning to a final variable again" |
| 21:46.07 | Cide | Shirik, I don't think volatile affects that |
| 21:46.18 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure it does, unless I'm confusing it with .NET |
| 21:46.25 | Cide | http://www.javamex.com/tutorials/synchronization_volatile.shtml |
| 21:46.43 | Cide | that says nothing regarding assignment being atomic or not |
| 21:47.13 | Shirik | actually, it does |
| 21:47.15 | Shirik | read closer |
| 21:47.16 | Cide | how so? |
| 21:47.24 | Shirik | Access to the variable acts as though it is enclosed in a synchronized block, synchronized on itself. |
| 21:47.53 | Cide | what does that imply? |
| 21:48.29 | Shirik | effectively, a = 1 becomes synchronized(a) { a = 1; }, and print(a) becomes synchronized(a) { print(a); } |
| 21:48.35 | Shirik | it doesn't, but it's the same effect |
| 21:48.35 | Cide | right |
| 21:48.46 | Shirik | which means it's atomic |
| 21:49.05 | Cide | if the operation in itself is atomic volatile wouldn't have any affect though, no? |
| 21:49.12 | Cide | you're saying that if it's not, volatile says it will be |
| 21:49.34 | Cide | if it already is, volatile wouldn't affect it |
| 21:49.41 | Shirik | I have read that first sentence 3 times and still don't understand it :/ |
| 21:49.57 | Cide | if assignment is atomic |
| 21:50.48 | Cide | synchronized(a) { a = 1; } is superfluous |
| 21:51.00 | Shirik | right |
| 21:51.27 | ScytheBlade1 | whoa, blizzcon is /tomorrow/ ? |
| 21:51.28 | ScytheBlade1 | gg |
| 21:51.31 | Shirik | one would assume the JVM is intelligent enough to realize that, for example, on an IA32 system, a 32-bit integer can be handled with a single opcode and does not try to lock it |
| 21:51.36 | Duman | no, fri/sat |
| 21:51.45 | Duman | (sbo) |
| 21:51.48 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, but people will be leaving tomorrow and such |
| 21:51.58 | Duman | yes, I leave tomorrow AM for teh drive down :) |
| 21:52.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Aren't you... really really close? |
| 21:52.11 | Shirik | however volatile has one additional effect, Cide, that is the traditional one of guaranteeing that it is always the latest value |
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| 21:52.13 | ScytheBlade1 | (relatively) |
| 21:52.30 | Cide | Shirik, aye, but in the exception-throwing use case that's not relevant |
| 21:52.43 | Shirik | yes this has nothing to do with my problem :) |
| 21:52.57 | Cide | I was just thinking if java has the possibility to throw an error mid-assignment - i.e. setting some half-assed version of the value |
| 21:52.57 | Duman | I live in northern california |
| 21:53.07 | Duman | should be like a 5-6 hr drive, depending on how fast I go ;) |
| 21:53.09 | Cide | but that would be very strange behavior |
| 21:53.13 | Shirik | I agree |
| 21:53.22 | ScytheBlade1 | ah gotcha @ Duman |
| 21:53.35 | ScytheBlade1 | pokes Shirik repeatedly |
| 21:53.39 | Shirik | no gtfo |
| 21:53.43 | ScytheBlade1 | pokes Shirik repeatedly |
| 21:53.46 | Cide | krka gave an explanation and I don't know if it's a trivial fix or not, but I don't think there's any parsing ambiguity |
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| 21:54.16 | Cide | I doubt you disagree at all at this point though |
| 21:54.19 | Shirik | krka's explanation was basically "the parser is too stupid to realize this" |
| 21:54.36 | Cide | yep |
| 21:54.58 | Cide | what's up with google chrome's ever-changing versions of the New Tab Page? |
| 21:58.00 | Tuller_ | i've not noticed |
| 21:58.42 | Beutju | i have a problem with an edit box; on my pc the text in it fits perfectly; on another pc the text is too bold and does not fit; but GetFont() for this box returns the same thing on both PCs |
| 21:58.45 | Cide | you need to run the dev version |
| 21:59.12 | Beutju | so how can i make sure both have the same font with same attributes? |
| 22:00.02 | Shirik | google ads are so wierd |
| 22:00.05 | Shirik | on that page you linked, Cide |
| 22:00.24 | Shirik | "Atomic Scuba Gear: Regulators, Atomic Mask, Fins Autorized Dealer Atomic Gear" |
| 22:00.47 | Cide | that is strange |
| 22:01.02 | Cide | mine were pretty relevant |
| 22:04.51 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 22:04.55 | Shirik | you ninjaed online |
| 22:05.29 | Lopeppeppy | I did. *huggle* |
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| 22:13.23 | foxlit | So, I'd like to turn "[target=player,nodead] [; [target=pet,nodead] ]; [target=focus,nodead] ;" into "[target=player,nodead] OPEN; [target=pet,nodead] CLOSE; [target=focus,nodead] SEMICOLON" |
| 22:14.42 | foxlit | Having some difficulty formulating the expression. |
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| 22:20.30 | Fisker | Razer: More than 4 mouse buttons? Fuck this shit |
| 22:20.35 | Fisker | Re: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.wow.com/media/2009/08/nagagamingmouse.jpg |
| 22:21.06 | NiLon | :D |
| 22:22.37 | Lopeppeppy | Scary mouse am scary |
| 22:23.38 | Dagmar | 12 thumb buttons == ricer overkill |
| 22:23.48 | Dagmar | ...oh and good luck mapping them to anything. |
| 22:24.47 | Lopeppeppy | I can map my mouse buttons, it's not all that hard. Just pick crazy combinations, like CTRL-ALT-1, C-A-2, etc. |
| 22:25.36 | foxlit | Unfortunately, those combinations aren't crazy. |
| 22:25.46 | foxlit | C-A-S-, that's crazy. |
| 22:25.51 | Lopeppeppy | Then do that. |
| 22:25.54 | foxlit | [But then you can't use them with modifiers] |
| 22:26.11 | Fisker | yeah if your thumb is smaller than a stylus pen Dagmar |
| 22:26.13 | foxlit | The awesome thing is that you can make any key act as a modifier. |
| 22:26.13 | Fisker | (fuck this shit) |
| 22:26.14 | Kemayo | Wouldn't surprise me if those keys were mapped to function-keys. |
| 22:26.24 | Fisker | and yeah Lopeppeppy |
| 22:26.30 | Kemayo | Just 'cause there's 12 of 'em. |
| 22:26.31 | Fisker | If you need 12 extra mousebuttons you fail |
| 22:26.39 | Fisker | or the game does |
| 22:26.52 | foxlit | Fisker: There's something to be said for simply not using the keyboard at all. |
| 22:27.10 | Lopeppeppy | Something does. But you could seriously give up your keyboard with that mouse. |
| 22:27.14 | Dagmar | Not in that case |
| 22:27.30 | Fisker | yeah foxlit |
| 22:27.39 | Dagmar | 12 is entirely too many for something as big as your thumb in that space |
| 22:27.39 | Fisker | you're grouped with people like donald from DLC |
| 22:27.42 | Fisker | hoho's |
| 22:28.16 | Lopeppeppy | I'd have to hold the mouse and see how big it actually is, how my thumb rests on/near those buttons, etc. |
| 22:28.25 | Lopeppeppy | I have wicked small hands, I'm very sure that is way too big for me. |
| 22:30.27 | Dagmar | *snicker* |
| 22:31.14 | NeoTron | I have the opposite issue. most mice are too small |
| 22:31.26 | NeoTron | and the scroll wheel way too far back to be comfortable I |
| 22:32.34 | NeoTron | so as for the the naga mouse, I can't see how you possibly could keep track of the buttons without looking :P |
| 22:32.54 | KarlKFI | just uses his fingers to move the mouse and doesn't rest his big hand on them |
| 22:33.10 | foxlit | btn:GetFontString():SetWidth(120); btn:GetFontString():SetHeight(1); |
| 22:33.13 | KarlKFI | which makes it hard to use thumb buttons when i'm holding the mouse with my thumb |
| 22:33.22 | foxlit | I see no way that could ever go wrong. |
| 22:33.59 | Fisker | get a trackball freak |
| 22:34.50 | KarlKFI | now what might be more useful... |
| 22:35.04 | Dagmar | A more reasonable Logitech G5 mouse? |
| 22:35.07 | KarlKFI | 6 buttons instead of 2 under my index and middle fingers |
| 22:35.20 | KarlKFI | since i can click those while moving the mouse |
| 22:35.53 | Dagmar | Thumb buttons on the G5 take a little more force than the others, so I'm not firing off hunter's mark every time I move the mouse around |
| 22:35.58 | KarlKFI | like horazontal buttons instead of vertical ones |
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| 22:36.48 | Beutju | how can i ensure, that the text in an editbox, looks the same on any pc? |
| 22:37.03 | KarlKFI | uh |
| 22:37.05 | KarlKFI | why? |
| 22:37.20 | KarlKFI | you could set it to the same font |
| 22:37.27 | KarlKFI | but some people override those |
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| 22:43.10 | Hirsute | ... Why in the world is the WoW client trying to apply patch 3.2.0 again for me.... |
| 22:43.39 | ScytheBlade1 | 3.0.2a |
| 22:43.40 | ScytheBlade1 | err |
| 22:43.42 | ScytheBlade1 | whatever |
| 22:43.43 | ScytheBlade1 | 'a' |
| 22:44.07 | foxlit | the default UI client badly needs a small cogwheel button icon. |
| 22:44.32 | NightHawkTheSane | everyone needs a cogwheel button. |
| 22:44.36 | cogwheel | foxlit: the engineering icon imo |
| 22:44.53 | foxlit | cogwheel: I want it to reasonably fit within a line of text. |
| 22:44.55 | Hirsute | ScytheBlade1: Ah. The patch notes weren't different. |
| 22:45.02 | foxlit | Unfortunately, the spell icons tend to tear past 24x24 |
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| 22:45.13 | Cidwel | hi all! |
| 22:45.19 | Hirsute | Is there a good post somewhere that I can read what 3.0.2a changed? *crosses fingers in hopes they fixed a couple of the bugs that have plagued me* |
| 22:45.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Hirsute: hm, dunno if that was the case (no account) - but I know they pushed a very minor patch today to... fix a few things |
| 22:45.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Hirsute: there's a blue post somewhere on the forums |
| 22:45.28 | ScytheBlade1 | coughs at /dump |
| 22:45.41 | NightHawkTheSane | it's like 5 lines of stuff, mostly fixing an exploit in /dump and some crashiness on mac clients |
| 22:45.58 | Hirsute | NightHawkTheSane: Thanks, going in search. Nice. I wonder if they fixed the totem bar tainting problems. |
| 22:46.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Hirsute: a blue tracker ought to have it (i saw it on mmo-champ's) |
| 22:46.28 | Hirsute | There it is. |
| 22:46.29 | Lopeppeppy | dances around the room. |
| 22:46.58 | Hirsute | Boogers. They *didn't* fix the totem bar tainting issue. |
| 22:47.17 | Lopeppeppy | I think they were really after the /dump first. Seemed kinda important. :) |
| 22:47.36 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 22:48.39 | Cidwel | i need a help. I want to get a trigger that when a modifier key is pressed, it will be triggered a simple SendChatMessage or a frame:Show(). I can't do this with a bindings.lua cause bindings doesn't work in order to trigger things with a simple modifier key. I have an idea trying to use OnKeyDown = "SHIFT" but I don't know how to specify this in a XML. Someone have a page or a guide to read how to trigger this? |
| 22:49.08 | cogwheel | foxlit: http://cogwheel.info/favicon.ico ;) |
| 22:49.08 | Fisker | hmm |
| 22:49.16 | Fisker | why is Blizzard doing 2 data surveys just after eachother |
| 22:49.23 | Fisker | It's a mystery cogwheel |
| 22:49.33 | foxlit | cogwheel: too... flat. |
| 22:49.54 | NightHawkTheSane | silly question, but is there a simple, lightweight spreadsheet app for linux? (not Openoffice) |
| 22:50.02 | cogwheel | foxlit: and too my logo-y |
| 22:50.04 | cogwheel | :P |
| 22:50.16 | Beutju | KarlKFI; on two PCs the font in the editbox is the same; but it looks different |
| 22:50.29 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: `sc` |
| 22:50.32 | foxlit | Hrm, they added a whole load of pvp icons. |
| 22:50.41 | KarlKFI | what font, and how different? |
| 22:50.58 | Cidwel | could be the monitor beutju? |
| 22:50.59 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: why not open office? in any case, gnumeric perhaps |
| 22:51.02 | foxlit | Hey, awesome |
| 22:51.33 | foxlit | Interface\PvPFrame\PVP-Banner-Emblem3 == nuclear radiation sign |
| 22:52.13 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: because its going to be on a netbook, and i really only need very very basic spreadsheet functionality |
| 22:52.19 | Fisker | sauce foxlit |
| 22:54.17 | Lopeppeppy | cogwheel, whatcha makin? |
| 22:54.19 | Cidwel | someone knows how to get the key from OnKeyDown? >_< |
| 22:55.27 | Beutju | no it is the thickness of the text; on my pc it fits into the frame; on another pc the text is 5cm larger than the frame |
| 22:55.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidwel: you use arg1 |
| 22:55.58 | Cidwel | mm let's try it |
| 22:56.39 | ScytheBlade1 | frame:SetScript("OnKeyDown", function(self, arg1) ChatFrame1:AddMessage(arg1) end) |
| 22:56.40 | cogwheel | Lopeppeppy: ? |
| 22:56.45 | ScytheBlade1 | or something similar, it has been a bit |
| 22:58.07 | Lopeppeppy | Was wondering what the cute baby cog was intended for. So I can start on some counter sprocket design. :) |
| 22:58.22 | Legorol | What's the recommended tool nowadays for viewing and/or converting BLP files to digestible formats? |
| 22:58.35 | ScytheBlade1 | blp2tga? |
| 22:58.42 | Cidwel | um I have a question. The good developers thinks that programming an UI with a XML is more like killing your guinea pig? I mean, all my ui is made throught xml >_< |
| 22:58.49 | ScytheBlade1 | oh dear |
| 22:58.53 | ScytheBlade1 | oh no don't ask that |
| 22:58.55 | ScytheBlade1 | incoming flame war |
| 22:58.58 | cogwheel | Lopeppeppy: it's the favicon for my site |
| 22:58.59 | Pneumatus | haha |
| 22:59.22 | cogwheel | same as my avatar on FB |
| 22:59.28 | Legorol | Cidwel: it's like asking whether apples or oranges taste better; to each their own. |
| 22:59.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidwel: there are advantages and disadvantages to both, and they don't have to be mutually exclusive |
| 22:59.42 | Pneumatus | although creating frames in Lua is clearly superior ;) |
| 22:59.48 | Legorol | ~lart Pneumatus |
| 22:59.48 | purl | whips out a sword and chops Pneumatus in half |
| 22:59.49 | ScytheBlade1 | stabs Pneumatus dead |
| 22:59.52 | Cidwel | so there's no trouble using it... |
| 23:00.11 | ScytheBlade1 | No trouble in either method |
| 23:00.18 | Legorol | the good programmers think it's better not to... but the truly great programmers recognise it's a matter of preferene (and occasionally a choice considering pros/cons) |
| 23:00.20 | Pneumatus | you can't make un-named frames in xml, can you? |
| 23:00.22 | Cidwel | omg |
| 23:00.24 | foxlit | BUT WE'LL TOTALLY HATE YOU FOR USING LUA. |
| 23:00.29 | ScytheBlade1 | (Though a good XML editor is highly recommended if you use XML) |
| 23:00.39 | Legorol | Pneumatus: of course you can |
| 23:00.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Pneumatus: er, just don't give it a name attribute? |
| 23:00.54 | ScytheBlade1 | passes the ball to Legorol and calls it good |
| 23:00.55 | Cidwel | .... pneumatus, what would be a trouble naming a fake frame? |
| 23:01.07 | Kemayo | Cidwel: The big advantage of Lua is creating frames on-demand, I think. |
| 23:01.13 | Cidwel | omg |
| 23:01.15 | Legorol | does a backward flip and flings it back to ScytheBlade1 whilst giving a high five |
| 23:01.18 | Cidwel | mmm yeah good point |
| 23:01.37 | Legorol | Kemayo: not quite. You can make templates in XML |
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| 23:01.44 | Legorol | it's not as huge an advantage as it seems |
| 23:02.00 | Pneumatus | isn't there some issue about global vs local as well? |
| 23:02.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Not really. |
| 23:02.08 | Cidwel | sorry I didn't want to create a flamewar |
| 23:02.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidwel: no worries |
| 23:02.17 | Legorol | Cidwel: ScytheBlade1 warned you ;) |
| 23:02.19 | foxlit | flames ScytheBlade1. |
| 23:02.24 | Legorol | don't worry, this comes up every once in a while |
| 23:02.26 | Cidwel | I'm really sorry |
| 23:02.28 | ScytheBlade1 | gets a little scalded |
| 23:02.32 | Legorol | really don't worry |
| 23:02.36 | Cidwel | um ok :s |
| 23:02.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidwel: seriously, don't worry, you're not the only one who has asked and you won't be the last |
| 23:02.46 | Legorol | it's a routine now, it runs its course in predictable patterns, and everyone still respects each other. except foxlit. |
| 23:02.47 | Lopeppeppy | Is very pretty then, Cog. |
| 23:03.13 | Pneumatus | personally, I just dislike writing XML |
| 23:03.37 | cogwheel | Lopeppeppy: i prefer my animated one where i can use it... http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/cogwheel_anim.gif |
| 23:03.39 | KarlKFI | some of us prefer pretty structure |
| 23:03.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Pneumatus: a good XML editor takes care of that. And concerning the globals, if you name a frame in lua you've created another global as well. All things considered, the globals are really a non-issue if you have a brain cell or two. |
| 23:04.01 | Fisker | http://us.battle.net/cataclysm/index.xml <-haha |
| 23:04.06 | foxlit | psst, turn off dithering. |
| 23:04.15 | Legorol | ok, my GoogleFu is weak. i can't find a download for blp2tga |
| 23:04.23 | cogwheel | foxlit: it's a gif. it would look shittier without dithering |
| 23:04.38 | Lopeppeppy | Animated .gifs make me break out in hives. |
| 23:04.41 | Fisker | mpq viewer Legorol |
| 23:04.44 | foxlit | cogwheel: You've got varying degrees of lightness and saturation of a single color |
| 23:04.45 | Legorol | ahmagad, a spinning cogwheel! |
| 23:05.01 | Legorol | Fisker: i'm not after viewing MPQs, i'm after viewing and/or converting BLPs |
| 23:05.07 | Cidwel | omg cowleve, more like SuperCow APT powers |
| 23:05.08 | Fisker | yes |
| 23:05.11 | Pneumatus | there was an exploit with slash commands? :o |
| 23:05.13 | Fisker | and mpqviewer automatically converts to png |
| 23:05.14 | kd3 | fisker; rofl |
| 23:05.15 | foxlit | That should fit in a palette. |
| 23:05.17 | Fisker | owns |
| 23:05.26 | Legorol | Pneumatus: if they are fixing it, there must've been :o) |
| 23:05.26 | cogwheel | foxlit: i rendered it without dithering and dithering looks better imo |
| 23:05.35 | foxlit | Legorol: 1. Get a mac. 2. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9011-BLPLook.html |
| 23:05.41 | Pneumatus | Legorol: guess so, wonder what it was :o |
| 23:05.46 | Legorol | Fisker: but can it convert BLPs that are *not* in an MPQ? |
| 23:05.55 | kd3 | the script I use can |
| 23:05.56 | kd3 | >.> |
| 23:05.56 | Fisker | would you want that? :3 |
| 23:06.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Pneumatus: /dump was secure, it amounted to giving the user a full secured scripting API |
| 23:06.24 | Pneumatus | oh, hax |
| 23:06.32 | Lopeppeppy | Very hax. |
| 23:06.34 | Legorol | Fisker: i have a bunch of BLPs that are not in an MPQ |
| 23:06.37 | Legorol | i'd like to look at them |
| 23:06.40 | Cidwel | ScytheBlade1: there's a way to code this frame:SetScript("OnKeyDown", function(self, arg1) ChatFrame1:AddMessage(arg1) end) - in the XML? using something like <OnKeyDown "SHIFT"> or something similar? I'm trying to make a frame showable only when user holds SHIFT key >_< |
| 23:06.47 | Fisker | you leave me no other option |
| 23:06.51 | Fisker | My hair is a bird |
| 23:06.54 | Fisker | your argument is invalid |
| 23:07.02 | kd3 | though it's not on curse any more... hrm |
| 23:07.05 | kd3 | looks around |
| 23:07.06 | Pneumatus | so you could /dump CastSpell() etc |
| 23:07.16 | Legorol | lol Fisker |
| 23:07.35 | Legorol | ok in that case: what's the latest hottest MPQ viewer that does actually work with the gigantic MPQs of late |
| 23:07.40 | Legorol | my GoogleFu is weak |
| 23:07.42 | Pneumatus | bet the bugfix push wont fix framestack though :< |
| 23:07.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidwel: yes there is, but I can't give you an exact specific right now |
| 23:08.02 | cogwheel | Cidwel: couldn't you use OnShow to hide itself again if shift isn't down? |
| 23:08.16 | foxlit | So, wow's XML parser. |
| 23:08.22 | foxlit | Does it support nested CDATA blocks? |
| 23:08.31 | Cidwel | mmm I like it cogwheel |
| 23:08.46 | Fisker | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/mpqviewer.aspx |
| 23:08.47 | Fisker | but naw |
| 23:08.52 | Fisker | it can't open blp's outside |
| 23:08.54 | Fisker | the mpq |
| 23:09.05 | kd3 | http://wowdev.org/wiki/index.php/BLP_Converter |
| 23:09.07 | kd3 | ^ <3 |
| 23:10.09 | Fisker | Your mom is violating so many Blizzard Terms of Use that they had to send a cease & desist on a pizza |
| 23:10.22 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, you're weird. |
| 23:10.26 | Fisker | very |
| 23:11.09 | Fisker | and now sleeptiems |
| 23:11.31 | Lopeppeppy | Goodnight dear. |
| 23:12.27 | Cidwel | doesn't worked cogwheel >_< |
| 23:13.21 | cogwheel | <OnShow>if !IsShiftKeyDown() then self:Hide() end </OnShow> ? |
| 23:13.37 | cogwheel | s/!/not / |
| 23:14.00 | Cidwel | omggg |
| 23:15.03 | Cidwel | I tried in that way, lemme try a thing.. |
| 23:16.02 | Cidwel | nope, doesn't worked -.- |
| 23:16.23 | Lopeppeppy | Every typo makes a difference... try pastying what you're using? |
| 23:16.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidwel: check your Logs\FrameXML.log file |
| 23:16.28 | Cidwel | I think it cannot work cause when you hide a frame you can't recall it in the same <script> block of that frame |
| 23:16.38 | ScytheBlade1 | also, do what Lopeppeppy said, and paste your code @ http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ |
| 23:16.48 | Cidwel | okay! I'll try |
| 23:16.55 | Lopeppeppy | I may not understand code, but I understand how to share it best for poking at. :) |
| 23:17.06 | ScytheBlade1 | threatens to teach Lopeppeppy |
| 23:17.33 | Lopeppeppy | I'd sit still for it, ScytheBlade1. I'm not good at teaching myself logic principles, my brain just doesn't work that way. Music, I can do, but not much else. |
| 23:17.46 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 23:18.49 | foxlit | Fisker: Hvor mange fisk kan en fisker fange hvis en fisker fangster fisk? |
| 23:18.56 | Cidwel | I'll start from the scratch for great justice |
| 23:19.31 | Lopeppeppy | foxlit: As much wood as a woodchuck can chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood? |
| 23:20.32 | foxlit | Lopeppeppy: Fiskerlific. :) |
| 23:22.30 | kd3 | mmm... food |
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| 23:27.53 | Cidwel | WGIIOS ScytheBlade1 , cogwheel , purl ---> a simple one http://wowuidev.pastey.net/122036 |
| 23:28.10 | sacarasc | purl is a bot. |
| 23:28.17 | Lopeppeppy | why yes, yes she is. |
| 23:28.28 | Cidwel | so please ChanServ see it |
| 23:28.34 | foxlit | wgiios? |
| 23:29.09 | Cidwel | I think tabbin should have cheated me |
| 23:29.30 | ScytheBlade1 | That is valid xml |
| 23:29.54 | Cidwel | but It doesn't work as expected :( |
| 23:30.27 | ScytheBlade1 | what part of it doesn't work as expected? |
| 23:30.36 | Lopeppeppy | And what did you expect? |
| 23:30.43 | Hirsute | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ftw |
| 23:31.41 | Cidwel | that when the user is holding shift, the frame should appear, |
| 23:31.52 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 23:32.04 | ScytheBlade1 | That only fires when the frame tries to appear |
| 23:32.18 | ScytheBlade1 | You have to make it appear (with :Show()) before your <OnShow> handler will fire |
| 23:32.20 | Cidwel | that's the problem, should have another frame trying to handle this? |
| 23:32.22 | Cidwel | mm |
| 23:33.01 | Cidwel | yep, so when it hides, the condition couldn't work |
| 23:33.12 | Hirsute | What should trigger that frame appearing? |
| 23:33.24 | Cidwel | pressing shift |
| 23:33.47 | Hirsute | Then, yes, you'll need a frame that constantly stays open, and probably need to poll for shift in it's OnUpdate script |
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| 23:34.36 | Cidwel | mmm the real example is doing that but I'll try to continue from the scratch making another frame to manage this |
| 23:35.58 | Weltmeister | can someone point me to how to create text in a frame? (I'm new to lua, and have managed to create buttons, but am failing at making a (non-editable) text field) |
| 23:36.36 | Cidwel | whowhwhow hirsute I think it worked >_< |
| 23:36.47 | Hirsute | Cidwel: Good |
| 23:36.59 | Cidwel | weltmeister you need a FontString I think |
| 23:37.18 | Weltmeister | ok thank you Cidwel |
| 23:37.57 | Cidwel | I mean, in xml I use fontStrings but I think that typing xml here could ban me |
| 23:39.14 | Hirsute | Cidwel: use pastey |
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| 23:39.44 | foxlit | I could've sworn I've seen a thin backdrop border style somewhere in the default UI |
| 23:39.47 | Weltmeister | I'm avoiding xml (currently too old to learn many new things) |
| 23:39.48 | foxlit | I can't find it now :/ |
| 23:40.07 | Hirsute | It's in the channel description: http://wowuidev.pastey.net |
| 23:41.09 | Cidwel | Hirsute: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/122038 <- I've skipped first line for spam annoyances |
| 23:42.41 | Hirsute | I would change it so that Frame1's OnUpdate hides Frame1, and that you only check for and act on IsLeftShiftKeyDown() == true in your parent frame's OnUpdate. |
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| 23:43.24 | Hirsute | *hides Frame1 when IsLeftShiftKeyDown() returns false |
| 23:44.01 | Cidwel | mmm yep hirsute, I'll clean it |
| 23:45.38 | Hirsute | Cidwel: Something like this, perhaps: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/122039 |
| 23:46.51 | foxlit | alternateFrame:SetFrameStrata("DIALOG"); << grr. |
| 23:47.15 | foxlit | Does not appear to work immediately after creating a frame. |
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