| 00:00.00 | mikma | no, not true |
| 00:00.18 | Wobin | mikma: Oh? I've had nodes ninjaed from under me from people in other phases |
| 00:00.22 | mikma | i always see spots on map eventho theres nothing to vein (storm peaks) |
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| 00:00.37 | augustl | ah! So people aren't cross phase? |
| 00:00.42 | Wobin | mikma: PS. Underground |
| 00:00.47 | augustl | I wondered why some nodes just suddenly disappeared |
| 00:01.06 | mikma | wobin: not likely, there 3 different spawn spots in brunhildar |
| 00:01.08 | Sesshu | mikma: "info: lol"..rofl |
| 00:01.15 | foxlit | Wobin: those tend to be highlighted differently. |
| 00:01.33 | Wobin | foxlit: true, but mikma's a little dim at times himself =) |
| 00:01.50 | mikma | huss, cornerboy |
| 00:02.01 | Wobin | mikma: There's no phasing per se in Brunhildar that -removes- the buildings |
| 00:02.14 | Wobin | so I'd say that it's just badly placed nodes |
| 00:02.20 | Wobin | not that there's a phase that allows access to them |
| 00:02.32 | mikma | 3x in the same village, right next to each other? |
| 00:02.38 | Wobin | like that goddamn node near the Gundrak summoning stone |
| 00:02.51 | mikma | hah |
| 00:02.55 | Wobin | mikma yes. |
| 00:02.58 | mikma | i've seen that one too |
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| 00:04.12 | mikma | lua> print(1^0) |
| 00:04.12 | lua_bot | mikma: 1 |
| 00:05.24 | Sesshu | lua> local lol = CreateFrame("Frame"); lol:SetScript("OnUpdate", print) |
| 00:05.24 | lua_bot | Sesshu: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'CreateFrame' (a nil value) |
| 00:05.36 | Sesshu | ... |
| 00:05.50 | mikma | createframe is wow lua only |
| 00:06.02 | foxlit | as much as that bot pretends to be WoW, it is not WoW. |
| 00:06.09 | Sesshu | i thought it ueses wow api too |
| 00:06.16 | mikma | nope |
| 00:06.25 | mikma | !api suck |
| 00:06.25 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'suck'. |
| 00:06.32 | mikma | !api fail |
| 00:06.32 | lua_bot | Found 8 possible results for 'fail': SCREENSHOT_FAILED, UNIT_SPELLCAST_FAILED_QUIET, MAIL_FAILED, KNOWLEDGE_BASE_SETUP_LOAD_FAILURE, KNOWLEDGE_BASE_QUERY_LOAD_FAILURE, KNOWLEDGE_BASE_ARTICLE_LOAD_FAILURE, UNIT_SPELLCAST_FAILED, IsCurrentQuestFailed |
| 00:07.49 | augustl | why is there no EPIC_FAILURE? |
| 00:08.07 | foxlit | The joke is that there is no joke. |
| 00:08.20 | Industrial | hahahah! |
| 00:09.17 | foxlit | In fact, http://serverfault.com/questions/45734/the-coolest-server-names/45753#45753 |
| 00:10.41 | foxlit | Speaking of Gödel, he postulated that there are true arithmetic statements that are unprovable. I want an example. |
| 00:11.17 | Legorol | As far as I understand it, he didn't just postulate it, he proved it too. |
| 00:11.39 | foxlit | That too. |
| 00:12.00 | foxlit | There's a catch somewhere there. |
| 00:12.02 | Legorol | His theorem is pretty far reaching: it applies to any consistent logical system. |
| 00:12.23 | Legorol | It doesn't just apply to arithmetics |
| 00:12.23 | Industrial | linky? |
| 00:13.04 | foxlit | But it smells the same way as the halting problem proof does. |
| 00:13.33 | Wobin | well, if he proved it, it couldn't be a true arithmetic statement |
| 00:13.52 | foxlit | That is, unfortunately, not the way that arrow points. |
| 00:14.19 | Wobin | ps, nice! ServerFault.com |
| 00:14.28 | Wobin | I've not been keeping up with the StackOverflow family |
| 00:15.05 | Wobin | now what is SuperUser.com? |
| 00:15.17 | foxlit | system administration, I think. |
| 00:15.35 | foxlit | We've got Bohr, Erlang, Hald, Newton and Euler. |
| 00:16.46 | Wobin | I have GladOS and Hex |
| 00:16.55 | Wobin | (I like my computers to think for themselves) |
| 00:18.22 | foxlit | There aren't any examples, are there. |
| 00:18.54 | foxlit | It's just going to arrive at a contradiction from some of the definitions of the involved concepts. |
| 00:20.34 | foxlit | Wobin: no Skynet? |
| 00:20.46 | Wobin | I only have a desktop and a netbook |
| 00:20.55 | Wobin | I was going to use Hal next |
| 00:20.57 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, skynet |
| 00:21.06 | Wobin | skynet would have to be a router |
| 00:21.50 | foxlit | It completely stumps http://labs.google.com/sets |
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| 00:27.01 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJrGYpYx8CQ |
| 00:27.03 | Wobin | awesome |
| 00:29.19 | Wobin | Halo bit rocks |
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| 00:31.26 | Sesshu | nice video |
| 00:31.46 | foxlit | utterly fails to recognize most of the themes as coming from the listed sources. |
| 00:32.38 | Industrial | my pc's are called Desktom and Laptom |
| 00:32.39 | Kalroth | failgeek is fail! |
| 00:32.39 | Industrial | >_> |
| 00:32.59 | foxlit | doesn't do console games. |
| 00:33.02 | Industrial | I'll run out after one of each :) |
| 00:33.51 | Sesshu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1koDmMSfi0M |
| 00:33.54 | Wobin | Sesshu: It's actually -really- well arranged |
| 00:35.58 | Lopeppeppy | I named my desktop "doorstop" after it bricked and had to be rebuilt... |
| 00:36.52 | foxlit | "Informally put, the axiom of choice says that given any collection of bins, each containing at least one object, it is possible to make a selection of exactly one object from each bin, even if there are infinitely many bins and there is no "rule" for which object to pick from each." |
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| 00:37.08 | Lopeppeppy | kiss kiss bye bey |
| 00:37.10 | foxlit | Why don't they shorten that to "Informally put, the axiom of choice is meaningless" |
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| 00:40.23 | Adys | where was the article about unit guids? |
| 00:40.35 | foxlit | look up UnitGUID |
| 00:40.40 | Adys | I just did |
| 00:41.05 | Adys | oh, API UnitGUID |
| 00:41.06 | Adys | forgot |
| 00:41.08 | foxlit | Assuming you found the page that I had in mind, that is a relatively concise overview of anything you'd have to know. |
| 00:41.24 | Adys | no i was looking the wrong address |
| 00:42.18 | Adys | Take the first three digits in the GUID, ie "F53" (or 0xF53 to show it's an hex value) and apply an AND mask of 0x00f to get 0x003. This GUID is for a normal NPC, neither a pet nor a player. |
| 00:42.23 | Adys | that's oudated? |
| 00:42.44 | Adys | 0xF530007F7F015D85 Gnimo 32639 |
| 00:42.45 | Adys | 0xF13000833F004EB4 Brollen Wheatbeard 33599 |
| 00:42.49 | foxlit | The section above that is more recent |
| 00:43.00 | foxlit | I may have been lazy in editing quoted material |
| 00:43.43 | Adys | F53 seems to be for summoned npcs, F13 for regular npcs |
| 00:50.01 | foxlit | Summoned by whom? |
| 00:50.17 | Adys | by a player, or possibly any spell |
| 00:50.32 | Adys | could have a look at warlock npc imps |
| 00:50.36 | foxlit | And regular would just be spawned? |
| 00:50.40 | Adys | actually that might not work |
| 00:50.43 | Adys | yeah |
| 00:53.01 | foxlit | You could probably find a bunch of guids to test that theory, but that wouldn't necessarily be proof of causation. |
| 00:53.20 | Adys | why would you need absolute proof? |
| 00:53.21 | foxlit | vanishes. |
| 00:53.45 | Adys | for what its worth, the npc id could just be a theory that happens to be correct on every single npc that has been tested. |
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| 01:07.39 | Cloudwolf_ | oh |
| 01:07.41 | Cloudwolf_ | hmm |
| 01:07.48 | Cloudwolf_ | i must still be in the channel i crashed -_- |
| 01:08.02 | Cloudwolf_ | any way to kick the duplicate? |
| 01:08.26 | Stanzilla | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/19110028331-the-brood-mother-returns.html < Onyxia 2.0 inc |
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| 01:10.34 | alestane | Cloudwolf: /msg nickserv ghost Cloudwolf {password} |
| 01:10.44 | Wobin | http://nextround.net/2009/08/10/25-undeniably-awesome-business-cards/ |
| 01:11.06 | Cloudwolf_ | hmm |
| 01:11.28 | Cloudwolf | there we go |
| 01:12.08 | Cloudwolf | how big can a table get (a saved table) before get causes substantial load time problems? |
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| 01:16.12 | Cloudwolf | any one have a clue? |
| 01:17.15 | Sesshu | i think you have to figure it aus |
| 01:17.19 | Sesshu | äh |
| 01:17.22 | Sesshu | fuck |
| 01:17.31 | Sesshu | drunk to much |
| 01:17.44 | Sesshu | you have to figure it out |
| 01:18.19 | Adys | onyxia's back <3<3 |
| 01:18.42 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 01:18.43 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtvIYRrgZ04 |
| 01:19.10 | Sesshu | yaa i love this video |
| 01:19.41 | Sesshu | more dots more dots! ok stop dots! |
| 01:20.29 | robotusch | HOLY SHED |
| 01:20.36 | robotusch | new and improved Onyxia?! |
| 01:20.38 | robotusch | *faints* |
| 01:20.47 | Adys | fucking awesome |
| 01:20.48 | Stanzilla | and a mount! |
| 01:21.08 | Adys | the mount is too much imo |
| 01:21.08 | Wobin | http://www.eldergame.com/2009/07/08/the-warcraft-live-teams-b-squad/ |
| 01:26.33 | Adys | Someone advice me |
| 01:26.42 | Adys | I got a warlock lvl 62 here i havent played in months |
| 01:26.51 | Adys | go destro, demo or affli? |
| 01:27.08 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5KDiJqsCkM&feature=player_embedded <-- Trombone Suicides =P |
| 01:28.56 | Cloudwolf | So no one has an idea of how big a table that load can cause a big load time? how big of a database goes into quest helper? |
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| 01:29.37 | Wobin | Cloudwolf: how long is a piece of string |
| 01:30.01 | Cloudwolf | do you mean bite size or how big i expect the string im saving/load to be? |
| 01:30.08 | Wobin | You're asking for a quantitative figure of a subjective matter |
| 01:30.43 | Cloudwolf | im planning on saving a number to a player name |
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| 01:31.47 | Cloudwolf | table["playernumbers"][tostring(playername)]=somenumber |
| 01:32.49 | Wobin | that's fine |
| 01:33.05 | Wobin | although I hope you're separating by realm |
| 01:33.34 | Sesshu | player name is already a string oO |
| 01:33.47 | Cloudwolf | >.> i prolly should but im not exactly sure how to do that XD theres something in the toc right like realmsavevar? |
| 01:34.21 | Kraps | you guys know who hobbs is? |
| 01:34.52 | Kraps | Adys: prot |
| 01:35.58 | Wobin | Cloudwolf: or table["playernumbers"][playerrealm][playername] = number |
| 01:36.16 | Hirsute | ^^^^^^ |
| 01:38.13 | Cloudwolf | hmm well i was kinda thinking you were heading towards the road of load only the right values depending on the server |
| 01:38.31 | Cloudwolf | but that makes sense so you dont have 2 characters getting the same value even though they arn't the same people |
| 01:40.11 | Wobin | it depends on why you're storing a number for each person |
| 01:40.15 | Wobin | and what that number represents |
| 01:40.28 | Adys | How do I parse sys.argv in lua? |
| 01:41.02 | Hirsute | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/19110418195-gc-why-do-u-keep-bringing-this-up.html |
| 01:41.13 | Hirsute | He he... "But it's normal Violet Hold...." |
| 01:41.47 | Cloudwolf | Well wobin im creating a count system so if a player swears in guild chat it will add 1 to their value and display it in the warning about swearing. to create a strike system basically. |
| 01:43.15 | Wobin | You probably don't have to worry about table size then |
| 01:43.32 | Wobin | cause if it eventuates that you -do-, you have more problems with your guild than you would with your addons |
| 01:46.20 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 01:46.57 | A-KO | lol@Onyxia coming back |
| 01:47.58 | Cloudwolf | i never ran onyxia i would love to actualy be able to try it with the prospect of you know actualy getting gera i can use lol |
| 01:48.14 | Kraps | "Nowadays itâs common for WoW to tell people to âcheck the forums for game updates.â This is a total newb mistake. Only your loudest and most annoying users will check your forums for updates. So every âupdateâ is met with derision because only assholes post on game forums. (Statistically speaking, anyway.)" |
| 01:49.05 | Kraps | good read wobin, if a bit depressing |
| 01:50.01 | Wobin | Kraps: true =\ |
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| 01:58.50 | Shirik | Hm |
| 01:58.59 | Shirik | how slow do you think things would go if I literally registered every event |
| 01:59.08 | Shirik | and used every parameter |
| 02:00.12 | Wobin | about as long as a piece of string? |
| 02:00.33 | Shirik | .. |
| 02:01.10 | Hirsute | Shirik: With the caveat of "depends on the computer running the client," I expect it would have a noticeable effect on performance even in the best systems. |
| 02:01.24 | Shirik | hm |
| 02:02.48 | alestane | Adys: You mean, what's the Lua equivalent of Python's sys.argv? |
| 02:03.12 | Shirik | it's arg[] |
| 02:03.15 | Shirik | if that's the question |
| 02:03.22 | Adys | ya alestane |
| 02:03.34 | Shirik | there's a table "arg" to use |
| 02:03.39 | Shirik | it's a global |
| 02:03.40 | Shirik | er, args |
| 02:03.44 | Shirik | it's either arg or args :( |
| 02:03.56 | Adys | thanks |
| 02:04.02 | alestane | It doesn't apply in WoW, but if you're running a Lua file as a script, it will receive the command-line args as ... |
| 02:04.49 | Shirik | Adys: It's arg |
| 02:04.50 | Shirik | not args |
| 02:04.52 | Adys | yeah its just a json conversion script |
| 02:04.57 | Adys | cheers Shirik |
| 02:05.04 | Shirik | but alestane is right, you can also access it via ... |
| 02:05.19 | Shirik | However, despite the change to ... in 5.1, it seems the preferred way to access command line arguments is still through the arg table |
| 02:06.10 | Shirik | even without the backwards compat option turned on, the arg table is always supported for command line arguments |
| 02:06.14 | alestane | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#6 |
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| 02:07.49 | Kraps | did you see the "new players" realm suggestions? |
| 02:07.51 | alestane | I guess that using arg gives you full access to the entire command line used to invoke your script, if you're inclined to care. |
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| 02:42.39 | Shirik | This is interesting |
| 02:43.01 | Thunder_Child | no it isnt |
| 02:43.29 | Shirik | "A billion seconds ago, it was 1959. A billion minutes ago, Jesus was alive. A billion hours ago, our ancestors were living in the Stone Age. A billion days ago, no-one walked on the earth with two feet." |
| 02:43.45 | Shirik | "A billion dollars ago was only 8 minutes and 20 seconds at the rate our government is spending it." |
| 02:44.09 | Shirik | 8 hours 20 seconds* |
| 02:44.10 | Shirik | sorry |
| 02:44.31 | Thunder_Child | "A billion births ago there was a billion less idiots on this earth" |
| 02:46.11 | Zyndrome | "A billion years from now, Shirikosaurs will walk the scorched earth, while the sun is expanding, slowly eating up the planets in the solar system." |
| 02:46.30 | Shirik | rawr |
| 02:46.35 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 02:46.41 | Shirik | huggles Gryphon |
| 02:46.44 | Gryphon | huggles Shirik |
| 02:52.01 | Adys | Shirik: is there an exit() in lua? |
| 02:52.09 | Shirik | os.exit() |
| 02:52.13 | Adys | tyvm |
| 02:52.24 | Shirik | because we're exiting the OS |
| 02:52.28 | Shirik | oh wait... |
| 02:52.35 | Shirik | I've always hated where they put that |
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| 02:58.25 | Adys | man |
| 02:58.26 | Adys | so awesome |
| 02:59.38 | Adys | yes |
| 02:59.42 | Adys | so fucking awesome. |
| 02:59.56 | Sesshu | wtf |
| 03:00.03 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/79106/ |
| 03:00.16 | Shirik | wtf |
| 03:00.18 | Shirik | why did I help Adys |
| 03:00.20 | Shirik | he hates me |
| 03:01.10 | Adys | this, Shirik |
| 03:01.12 | Adys | is awesomeness |
| 03:01.15 | Sesshu | but wow doesn't use the os table |
| 03:01.35 | Adys | Shirik |
| 03:01.37 | Adys | do you see it. |
| 03:01.48 | Shirik | huh? |
| 03:02.56 | Adys | Shirik: here I create or open a custom wdb with a structure I defined above, I parse a lua (first converted to json) into a dict, then I filter the wdb with a sql-like query |
| 03:03.16 | Adys | if i get a result, I update it |
| 03:03.20 | Adys | otherwise, I append a new row |
| 03:03.45 | Adys | tell me that's not awesome |
| 03:03.49 | Adys | TELL ME, GO ON |
| 03:04.36 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/79107/ |
| 03:04.37 | Adys | this so you see. |
| 03:04.57 | VonhintenHOME` | I need help... my Tricks of the Trade is stuck in an unusable state |
| 03:05.09 | VonhintenHOME` | GetSpellCooldown returns that it has 0.001 time left |
| 03:05.18 | Adys | reloadui |
| 03:05.19 | Wobin | http://www.zazzle.com/css_is_awesome_mug-168716435071981928 |
| 03:05.27 | Adys | yes |
| 03:05.28 | VonhintenHOME` | I did that already, killed wow even |
| 03:05.29 | Adys | css is awesome too |
| 03:05.30 | Adys | but |
| 03:05.33 | VonhintenHOME` | it's stuck on the server side |
| 03:05.49 | Adys | python is bloody more awesome |
| 03:05.55 | Adys | VonhintenHOME`: switch spec? |
| 03:05.58 | VonhintenHOME` | tried |
| 03:05.59 | VonhintenHOME` | no change |
| 03:06.05 | Adys | reroll? |
| 03:08.04 | Sesshu | delet your account |
| 03:08.08 | Sesshu | delete |
| 03:09.01 | VonhintenHOME` | it also returns that it's active still |
| 03:09.17 | Adys | are you sure its not an addon |
| 03:09.29 | VonhintenHOME` | positive |
| 03:09.33 | Adys | ticket a gm then |
| 03:10.02 | Sesshu | you think there is a bug on server with some spells? |
| 03:10.17 | Adys | why not its blizzard |
| 03:10.40 | Sesshu | hm |
| 03:11.27 | Sesshu | kek! |
| 03:11.27 | VonhintenHOME` | GetSpellCooldown("Tricks of the Trade") => 630873.976, 0.001, 0 |
| 03:11.42 | VonhintenHOME` | permanently stuck with 0.001, 0 |
| 03:12.47 | Sesshu | reload ui without any add ons |
| 03:13.34 | Sesshu | i would try |
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| 03:16.51 | Industrial | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/teleport.jpg |
| 03:16.52 | Industrial | epic |
| 03:17.01 | Industrial | I would _definately_ stand on it |
| 03:17.17 | Adys | de |
| 03:17.18 | Adys | fi |
| 03:17.18 | Adys | ni |
| 03:17.19 | Adys | te |
| 03:17.19 | Adys | ly |
| 03:18.02 | Adys | grammar nazies up Industrial's |
| 03:18.13 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 03:19.37 | augustl | hi, I'm an inscriptor |
| 03:19.58 | augustl | (and also a troll, sigh) |
| 03:20.11 | Dagmar | Failtroll. |
| 03:20.12 | Dagmar | ;) |
| 03:20.38 | Shirik | hm |
| 03:20.43 | Shirik | Shiibot trusts Adys way too much |
| 03:20.46 | Shirik | I think Adys talks too much |
| 03:20.51 | Adys | hi Shiibot |
| 03:20.54 | Adys | how are you Shiibot |
| 03:20.58 | Adys | are you well Shiibot |
| 03:21.05 | Adys | you're not kicking me Shiibot are you Shiibot :( |
| 03:21.13 | Shirik | your "de fi ni te ly" pulled the spam score to a whopping 3 of a required 60 |
| 03:21.30 | Shirik | most people get a 2 for their average line |
| 03:21.34 | Shirik | you started at 0.6 |
| 03:21.40 | Adys | Good. |
| 03:21.47 | VonhintenHOME` | group wipe fixed tricks |
| 03:21.58 | Thunder_Child | new task: break Shiibot's spam program |
| 03:22.06 | Shirik | tem is very good at that |
| 03:22.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Took tem all of 3 lines |
| 03:22.22 | ScytheBlade1 | 4, possible |
| 03:22.28 | *** join/#wowuidev Funkeh` (n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 03:22.30 | ScytheBlade1 | *possibly |
| 03:22.31 | Shirik | well he really was spamming :P |
| 03:24.14 | Hirsute | Who got kicked? |
| 03:24.40 | Hirsute | And, augustl, inscriptor makes me twitch. |
| 03:24.48 | Shirik | nobody gets kicked by shiibot |
| 03:24.51 | Shirik | he just locks down the channel |
| 03:24.57 | augustl | Hirsute: yes, ugh |
| 03:25.02 | augustl | Hirsute: tradechat hates me =/ |
| 03:25.23 | Hirsute | s/inscriptor/scribe/ and the twitching stops. |
| 03:25.25 | Nechckn | inscriptor? ouch |
| 03:25.27 | Nechckn | =) |
| 03:25.38 | Nechckn | Inscriptionista! |
| 03:26.07 | Nechckn | if she was all in leather, with a whip, Hirsute wouldn't mind her not being called a scribe |
| 03:26.16 | Nechckn | Inscriptionatrix |
| 03:26.24 | Hirsute | runs in fear at the thought. |
| 03:26.43 | Hirsute | The glyphs she'd use could be very frightening. |
| 03:26.46 | Hirsute | For about a month |
| 03:26.51 | Nechckn | "She is here to cut weird symbols into your skin, funy boy." |
| 03:26.54 | Hirsute | Then they'd be nerfed and she'd have to replace them all. |
| 03:27.04 | Nechckn | Lol, now that is so very true. |
| 03:27.27 | Hirsute | Artificially inflating the market for people trading in it, and providing a perpetual money sink for everyone else. |
| 03:28.12 | augustl | aww, poor Crusader Bridenbrad |
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| 03:29.53 | Aznamir | Hi all |
| 03:30.23 | Aznamir | Could someone tell me what's the way to tell that the player is in a battleground? |
| 03:33.01 | Dagmar | Look at what zone they're in |
| 03:33.40 | tem | IsInBattleground? |
| 03:34.00 | cogwheel | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_categories#battlefield |
| 03:34.13 | tem | IsInInstance sorry |
| 03:34.33 | Shirik | !api bit |
| 03:34.33 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'bit'. |
| 03:34.39 | Aznamir | thank |
| 03:34.39 | Shirik | is there a "bit rotate" operation? |
| 03:34.58 | augustl | there's http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsActiveBattlefieldArena at least |
| 03:35.34 | Aznamir | thanks |
| 03:39.28 | *** join/#wowuidev Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 03:40.32 | Dashkal | I totally missed something. What changed with /castrandom? |
| 03:41.12 | Dagmar | It "sticks" on failed casts now? |
| 03:41.31 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetMapLandmarkInfo |
| 03:41.33 | kd3 | 155 different POIs |
| 03:41.34 | kd3 | gack |
| 03:41.35 | Dagmar | No more one-button wonder-warriors |
| 03:41.47 | Dashkal | Sticky? Much like /castsequence? |
| 03:41.52 | kd3 | yes |
| 03:42.01 | Dashkal | ahh, fair enough |
| 03:42.20 | Dashkal | No real surprise there then |
| 03:42.51 | kd3 | there are a few icons that I dunno what they represent on ^... anyone have any ideas? |
| 03:43.01 | kd3 | 122-127, to be specific |
| 03:44.18 | Dashkal | aha, routes was updated, just only as a beta |
| 03:50.33 | kd3 | wtf, onyxia? |
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| 03:52.28 | bluspacecow | herro |
| 03:53.29 | bluspacecow | can someone check my wowmatrix facts i posted on http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19110156509&postId=191084472228&sid=1#15 |
| 03:53.32 | bluspacecow | brb needs foods |
| 03:56.07 | Shirik | Pop quiz |
| 03:56.09 | Shirik | what do you think is faster |
| 03:56.12 | ScytheBlade1 | 42 |
| 03:56.14 | Adys | e |
| 03:56.23 | kd3 | sqrt(-1) |
| 03:56.31 | Shirik | (In wow) bit shift right 31 bits or divide by 0x40000000 |
| 03:56.36 | Adys | bit shift |
| 03:56.45 | Shirik | why do you think that |
| 03:56.55 | Shirik | fyi: I would tend to disagree, but haven't tested |
| 03:57.02 | Adys | bit shifts are always faster than divisions, from what i know |
| 03:57.06 | Shirik | Sure |
| 03:57.07 | Shirik | but |
| 03:57.22 | Shirik | in WoW, we're also talking about a number that has to be converted to an integer to do the operation, and then converted back to a double |
| 03:57.30 | Shirik | not to mention the fact that we're calling a function here instead of a built-in Lua op |
| 03:57.46 | Shirik | And Intel CPUs are notorious for sucking at double-to-int conversions |
| 03:58.14 | Adys | try it and see :P |
| 03:58.21 | Shirik | that's boring :( |
| 03:58.34 | Thunder_Child | but arguing about it is pointless |
| 04:00.15 | Shirik | !api debug |
| 04:00.15 | lua_bot | Found 33 possible matches for 'debug'. Please be more specific |
| 04:00.18 | Shirik | !api profile |
| 04:00.19 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'profile': debugprofilestop, debugprofilestart |
| 04:01.40 | tem | wtf is this? http://imgur.com/TzHVf.png |
| 04:01.44 | tem | it's under my minimap |
| 04:01.52 | Adys | its a link to an image hosting site |
| 04:02.13 | tem | Adys, I hate you in the face |
| 04:02.29 | Adys | you mean you actually like my butt? |
| 04:02.29 | Nechckn | bluspacecow That sounds about right; you are a trooper for even trying to keep the facts straight. |
| 04:02.51 | bluspacecow | it appears to be a small icon of a shield with a arrow pointing down. |
| 04:03.11 | bluspacecow | what image formats do little icons liek that come as |
| 04:03.20 | Shirik | rofl |
| 04:03.21 | Shirik | Adys |
| 04:03.29 | Adys | yes darling? |
| 04:03.31 | Shirik | 0.22 seconds: /script local dpstart, dpstop = debugprofilestart, debugprofilestop; local v,n = 0x80000000; dpstart(); for x = 1, 10000 do n = v / 0x40000000; end print(dpstop(), v); |
| 04:03.43 | Shirik | wait, I screwed up |
| 04:03.46 | bluspacecow | ty Neck but i'm looking for someone to confirm my little assertion that wowmatrix doesn' have a list of download URLs just actual addon pages |
| 04:04.10 | Shirik | amazing how localizing a function call can improve its speed by 50% |
| 04:04.19 | Shirik | Anyway, 1.9 seconds: /script local dpstart, dpstop = debugprofilestart, debugprofilestop; local bsr = bit.rshift; local v,n = 0x80000000; dpstart(); for x = 1, 10000 do n = bsr(v, 31); end print(dpstop(), v); |
| 04:05.49 | Shirik | however, none of you caught that it was supposed to be division by 0x80000000 instead of 0x40000000 |
| 04:05.51 | Shirik | failure |
| 04:07.31 | tem | so no one has any idea what that icon is? |
| 04:07.33 | tem | http://imgur.com/TzHVf.png |
| 04:07.39 | bluspacecow | tem : what i'ld do is see if I could do a picture search of my addons folder and try to find wtf that icon is |
| 04:07.53 | Adys | tineye! |
| 04:08.26 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/search.php?search=tineye |
| 04:08.31 | Adys | no |
| 04:08.32 | bluspacecow | adys you fail |
| 04:08.33 | Adys | tineye.com |
| 04:09.16 | bluspacecow | 0 results |
| 04:09.20 | Nechckn | trouble downloading from WoWI... everything works until trying to download. Then no worky. |
| 04:09.45 | Shirik | Nechckn: Works for me :/ |
| 04:09.48 | Cloudwolf | problem does not compute |
| 04:09.50 | *** join/#wowuidev sacarasc (i=sacarasc@cpc3-kemp3-0-0-cust48.lutn.cable.ntl.com) |
| 04:09.59 | bluspacecow | works for me ") |
| 04:10.05 | Nechckn | hrm... |
| 04:10.59 | bluspacecow | tested logging out and logging back in ... even logged out it works for me |
| 04:11.12 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/download13194-SoundcommandsforeverysoundupdatedforWrath |
| 04:11.19 | bluspacecow | try that |
| 04:11.55 | Nechckn | maybe dns issue from here |
| 04:12.23 | Nechckn | getting "Cannot find fs.wowinterface.com/... |
| 04:12.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Resolves fine |
| 04:13.29 | Nechckn | funny, I don't see you on my network.. odd. =0 |
| 04:13.59 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:14.28 | Nechckn | ah ha!! figures, the ole /joined trick! |
| 04:14.44 | Nechckn | time to kick the local dns server |
| 04:15.18 | bluspacecow | *blush* it was meant to be /joins |
| 04:16.25 | Nechckn | Weird.. it was all working for.. oh, a few months now. |
| 04:17.04 | tem | For the curious, that icon is the new "you need to repair" |
| 04:18.03 | bluspacecow | wot ? |
| 04:18.08 | tem | http://imgur.com/TzHVf.png |
| 04:18.12 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:22.13 | Cloudwolf | well this is going to be fun |
| 04:22.18 | Cloudwolf | getting myself the title the insane... |
| 04:22.45 | Cloudwolf | i'll prolly end up getting what i need for bloodsail then getting my rep back up with the cartel and then prolly give up lol |
| 04:23.21 | bluspacecow | have you got a guide for which order to do them in ? |
| 04:24.42 | Cloudwolf | bloodsail cartel+shen'dralar(never herad of these people) then ravenholdt finnaly darkmoon |
| 04:25.01 | Cloudwolf | is what this says any way |
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| 04:25.15 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v AnduinLothar] by ChanServ |
| 04:26.18 | bluspacecow | bunnie ? ball ball ? |
| 04:26.32 | Cloudwolf | derp? |
| 04:26.40 | Dashkal | Shen is the high elf faction associated with dire maul. Basically you grind books until your eyes bleed |
| 04:27.00 | Cloudwolf | yeah i got that part. Ive never ran diremaul >.>.... |
| 04:27.22 | Dashkal | There's a small number of books, and they're unique. |
| 04:27.27 | Cloudwolf | i ended up skipping a hell of a lot of 50-60 content skipped a lot of 70 content and im ending up skipping a lot of 80 content >.> |
| 04:27.31 | Cloudwolf | 3 books each book is unique |
| 04:27.41 | Cloudwolf | strategy is to eather have an eng with you that has molle or spend time turning them in |
| 04:27.43 | kd3 | there's a reason why it's called 'the insane' |
| 04:27.46 | Dashkal | So you run it, get your three, turn em in, repeat..... |
| 04:27.52 | Cloudwolf | yeah i know |
| 04:27.56 | Cloudwolf | and i know theres a reason its caleld the insae |
| 04:27.58 | Cloudwolf | *insane |
| 04:28.21 | Cloudwolf | but i dont feel like finding pug/group runs for nax and uld and stuff especialy with my summer coming to a close. |
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| 04:28.46 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Nechckn_AFK] by ChanServ |
| 04:42.56 | Nechckn_AFK | Amazing how well you can connect when the dns server is actually on |
| 05:03.30 | Shirik | lua> math.random(2^31 * -1, 2^31 - 1) |
| 05:03.30 | lua_bot | Shirik: -2147483648 |
| 05:03.33 | Shirik | wtf |
| 05:03.40 | Shirik | something's jacked up with Lua's RNG |
| 05:03.52 | Shirik | that's always the value I get :/ |
| 05:04.05 | zenzio | lua> math.random(2^31 * -1, 2^31 - 1) |
| 05:04.06 | lua_bot | zenzio: -2147483648 |
| 05:04.11 | zenzio | lua> math.random(2^31 * -1, 2^31 - 1) |
| 05:04.11 | lua_bot | zenzio: -2147483648 |
| 05:04.17 | zenzio | it does seem consistent |
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| 05:04.54 | zenzio | lua> math.random(-(2^31), 2^31 - 1) |
| 05:04.54 | lua_bot | zenzio: -2147483648 |
| 05:08.50 | Shirik | I have to go down to 2^29 before I start actually getting positive numbers |
| 05:12.45 | zenzio | lua> math.random(2^31 * -1, 2^31 - 1), math.random(2^31 * -1, 2^31 - 1) |
| 05:12.46 | lua_bot | zenzio: -2147483648, -2147483648 |
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| 05:22.53 | DWSR | how much loot does ToCr 25 man drop? |
| 05:23.38 | Corrodias | how much loot could a lootwhore loot if a lootwhore could whore loot? |
| 05:23.46 | DWSR | I meant per run. |
| 05:23.58 | DWSR | We spent like 4 hours wiping on it today with a barely geared raid. |
| 05:26.08 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 05:26.09 | bluspacecow | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18872647620&sid=1 |
| 05:26.16 | A-KO | you know, my number 1 pet peeve in this game has to be the people that think I'm trying to scam them out of their mats when crafting items |
| 05:26.16 | bluspacecow | The new graphic engine is disabled by default in 3.2 and 3.2.2 |
| 05:26.17 | bluspacecow | We will enable it in one of the next major patch. |
| 05:26.28 | bluspacecow | does that meant there might be a C Var to enable it ? |
| 05:26.42 | A-KO | probably |
| 05:26.44 | A-KO | new grpahics engine what? |
| 05:27.09 | A-KO | needs to enable that |
| 05:27.18 | bluspacecow | idk its just what it says ...from a blue mac developer i haven't heard of |
| 05:27.28 | Dashkal | A-KO: Meh, I wish crafting worked in the trade window... I'm so paranoid about that I just refuse to buy crafting from people I don't know. |
| 05:27.29 | bluspacecow | anyone wanna do a C Var extract from the base lua files ? |
| 05:27.35 | bluspacecow | is that even possible ? |
| 05:27.50 | bluspacecow | DWSR : Are you needing a number or maybe a page of the loots ? |
| 05:28.11 | ScytheBlade1 | bluspacecow: cvars aren't stored in the lua |
| 05:28.27 | zenzio | Dashkal: bad experiences? |
| 05:28.46 | Dashkal | zenzio: Nah, I'm just an untrusting sort. |
| 05:28.48 | bluspacecow | DWSR : I do believe Atlas Loot's been updated for ToCr .... hasn't it guys ? |
| 05:28.54 | DWSR | a number |
| 05:29.01 | bluspacecow | Scythe : Thanks for the correct ...so how does one found that out ? |
| 05:29.04 | Dashkal | checks |
| 05:29.05 | DWSR | Like, how many pieces of loot. |
| 05:29.06 | Dashkal | Yep |
| 05:29.17 | A-KO | Dashkal: I've *never* been scammed |
| 05:29.17 | A-KO | ever |
| 05:29.31 | Dashkal | A-KO: Neither have I ;) |
| 05:29.43 | A-KO | and I don't get paranoid |
| 05:29.43 | A-KO | :P |
| 05:29.45 | DWSR | bluspacecow: A number pelase. |
| 05:29.55 | bluspacecow | hey im checking :) |
| 05:30.02 | Dashkal | I have a pretty deep seated hatred of pugs in general. If I don't know someone, I don't want to even acknowledge they exist in the game. |
| 05:30.03 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=4723 |
| 05:30.05 | Nechckn | knocks on plastic |
| 05:30.09 | bluspacecow | 37 apparently |
| 05:30.15 | Nechckn | For some crafting, I've had to rely on others. |
| 05:30.24 | Nechckn | Have not been ripped... |
| 05:30.28 | Dashkal | I only gridgingly group up for group quests (I mostly just skip them) |
| 05:30.48 | bluspacecow | wops wrong page sorry |
| 05:30.49 | Dashkal | That came from one too many two hour VC runs |
| 05:30.56 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=4722 |
| 05:31.09 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=4722#normal-25-drops |
| 05:31.13 | bluspacecow | 30 sorry |
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| 05:31.40 | DWSR | sigh |
| 05:31.44 | DWSR | How many pieces per run |
| 05:32.03 | bluspacecow | idk how many bosses are there ? |
| 05:32.13 | DWSR | idk |
| 05:32.18 | DWSR | Didn't get past the beasts of northrend. |
| 05:32.27 | bluspacecow | wow head has 8 NPC's |
| 05:32.45 | Elusive | I want what kind of new graphcis engine they're using. |
| 05:32.46 | bluspacecow | 4 bosses |
| 05:32.54 | zenzio | "NCsoft reports income rise of 451% in Q2"... now that's a nice improvement |
| 05:33.02 | DWSR | Elusive: Yeah, they did update it. |
| 05:33.08 | DWSR | Elusive: Too bad it's not more GPU dependant. |
| 05:33.43 | bluspacecow | so 4/30 ? |
| 05:34.14 | Nechckn | Had an issue with installing a beta for NCSoft and they actually were decent, worked through the issue to resolution. Was ever so refreshing, compared to most companies that are like "It's a beta, deal with it." |
| 05:34.22 | ScytheBlade1 | bluspacecow: you can either guess at every possible cvar, or disassemble the binary |
| 05:34.26 | ScytheBlade1 | (to get the 'list') |
| 05:34.34 | Elusive | I wonder* --- Dangit, they need to give us a console command or CVar to enable it.... is there any way to see what all type of Cvars are available? ;P |
| 05:34.40 | Nechckn | Actually thought that was the purpose of beta testing.. but, what do I know. |
| 05:34.40 | Elusive | Yeah.. |
| 05:35.32 | bluspacecow | scythe : so that would be in the client binary ie wow.exe or wow.app or in the MPQs ? |
| 05:35.51 | ScytheBlade1 | It'd be in the .exe, or the OSX binary |
| 05:35.58 | Elusive | lol: SET gxEngine "2.0" |
| 05:36.04 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 05:36.04 | ScytheBlade1 | which iirc, actual poking with is forbidden |
| 05:36.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Elusive: that may refer to just opengl |
| 05:36.14 | bluspacecow | *starts playing around with strings* |
| 05:38.49 | bluspacecow | http://pastey.net/120893 is what i can finding by grep strings with "gx" |
| 05:40.00 | Thunder_Child | lua>10^123 |
| 05:40.00 | lua_bot | Thunder_Child: 1e+123 |
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| 05:44.55 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 05:44.58 | Shirik | here's my favorite |
| 05:45.07 | Shirik | Lua, I would like a random number between 0 and 2^31 - 1 |
| 05:45.14 | Shirik | lua> math.random(0, 2^31 - 1) |
| 05:45.14 | lua_bot | Shirik: -837884006 |
| 05:45.18 | Shirik | very win |
| 05:48.47 | Elusive | lua>2^31 |
| 05:48.47 | lua_bot | Elusive: 2147483648 |
| 05:49.45 | zenzio | Shirik: that is pretty fascinating |
| 05:50.02 | Elusive | How does this Lua bot work? Is it a mIRC scripted bot that accesses Lua functions based on the text then reports the return back to the chat or is it a server side Lua bot? |
| 05:50.34 | Shirik | it is a Lua script which happens to understand the IRC protocol |
| 05:50.37 | ZorbaBeta | it's not serverside, but it's almost certainly not mirc either |
| 05:50.49 | Elusive | Very nice. |
| 05:51.13 | Shirik | it runs loadstring() on the text, executes it, and returns the result |
| 05:51.17 | Shirik | with some exceptions |
| 05:51.24 | Shirik | to prevent people like me from being evil |
| 05:52.16 | Elusive | Understandable. |
| 05:52.28 | Elusive | I was just interested on how it works. :-) |
| 05:52.33 | Elusive | googling it up now, of course. |
| 05:52.36 | bluspacecow | shirik ? be evil ? surely not :) |
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| 05:54.05 | Shirik | There are at least 3 lua bots in here |
| 05:54.17 | Shirik | all of them are Lua scripts that understand the IRC protocol |
| 05:54.24 | Shirik | and I think all of them use luasocket too |
| 05:55.03 | Elusive | mmm.. good old IRC. Can do such fun things with it . <3 |
| 05:55.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I just wish that whichever bot responds to --> wouldn't |
| 05:55.21 | bluspacecow | i has a white bear butt |
| 05:55.39 | Elusive | Reponds to > ? |
| 05:55.46 | ScytheBlade1 | --> print "hello" |
| 05:55.46 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: hello |
| 05:56.01 | Elusive | lol. okay, :) |
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| 05:56.26 | Elusive | -> print(string.format("B%c lleance", 195)) |
| 05:56.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Two - |
| 05:56.37 | Elusive | ist hat a double hypen? |
| 05:56.38 | Elusive | kk |
| 05:56.41 | Elusive | --> print(string.format("B%c lleance", 195)) |
| 05:56.41 | batbot | Elusive: BÃ lleance |
| 05:56.45 | Elusive | Blah. |
| 05:57.29 | Elusive | This is so intruiging I'm almost tempted to setup one just to play with it. |
| 05:58.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I think they're all custom and not open |
| 05:58.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Though I think a few of them would pass you source if you asked |
| 05:59.51 | Shirik | I'm looking for sources of randomness |
| 05:59.56 | Shirik | I'm already using the chat channels |
| 06:00.10 | Shirik | I thought about using the addon channel, but I think that's too patterned. Does everyone else agree? |
| 06:00.10 | Elusive | Would be nice to see their sources, to learn how to do things. |
| 06:00.23 | Elusive | Addon channel? |
| 06:00.42 | Shirik | the channel upon which addons talk |
| 06:01.10 | Elusive | lol oh, right. Gotchya now. - Little slow at this hour in the morning. ;) |
| 06:01.12 | VonhintenHOME` | chat channel could be patterned too depending on when you look at it.. assuming you mean everything that can appear there... lots of emotes during boss fights |
| 06:01.30 | bluspacecow | what kind of things do they say ? Omen is a noob ? |
| 06:01.39 | bluspacecow | QH smells ? |
| 06:02.36 | Shirik | fortunately, VonhintenHOME`, currently it takes 128 characters to form a single entropy value |
| 06:02.51 | Shirik | I think the different orders of those things appearing would be sufficient to provide randomness |
| 06:03.04 | Shirik | because it could be out of phase anywhere in that 128 |
| 06:03.18 | Shirik | I'm also thinking that another source of entropy could be the user's mouse |
| 06:03.34 | Shirik | And during boss fights that would greatly outweigh the chat |
| 06:03.53 | VonhintenHOME` | what are you even doing? |
| 06:04.05 | bluspacecow | spreading chaos |
| 06:04.11 | Shirik | precisely |
| 06:04.20 | Shirik | or, termed more nicely, trying to create a cryptographically secure pseudorandom number generator |
| 06:04.29 | ZorbaBeta | low bit of the mouse cursor is going to be pretty dang random |
| 06:04.49 | Shirik | I was thinking more of the differential |
| 06:04.52 | Shirik | but yeah that would work too |
| 06:04.58 | ZorbaBeta | I imagine picking out the low bit of GetTime() every few frames is going to be rather random as well |
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| 06:06.24 | ZorbaBeta | I imagine you could get a pile of stuff out of the combat log |
| 06:06.24 | VonhintenHOME` | also positional information |
| 06:06.24 | VonhintenHOME` | including camera vector |
| 06:06.24 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, good call, user's location on the map |
| 06:08.07 | Dagmar | Servers are full of win tonightg |
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| 06:20.15 | Shirik | Apparently the laws of physics do not apply to peggle |
| 06:20.34 | Shirik | my ball was oscillating back and forth in a U shape |
| 06:20.45 | Shirik | and somehow managed to increase speed to the point where it was able to escape after like 3 passes |
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| 06:21.13 | Thunder_Child | are you playing peggle in wow again Shirik? |
| 06:22.05 | Wobin | I can say now |
| 06:22.08 | Wobin | <3 Tres leches |
| 06:22.46 | Wobin | It's so worth the prep time |
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| 06:30.27 | NightHawkTheSan1 | wow peggle's physics are wonky |
| 06:30.30 | NightHawkTheSan1 | by any standard,' |
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| 07:42.34 | bluspacecow | so guys..... bringing back the old single pane quest log in wow ... possible ? feasible ? your thoughts and discuss pls |
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| 07:43.38 | nevcairiel | sure its possible |
| 07:43.43 | nevcairiel | but its so stupid :D |
| 07:43.54 | bluspacecow | i mean is the frame graphic still in the mpqs somewhere ? |
| 07:44.17 | bluspacecow | or would i need to create the frame and populate it on some event ? |
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| 07:54.32 | Thunder_Child | http://fukung.net/v/744/TerrorMap.gif |
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| 08:00.15 | bluspacecow | thunder : why is most of that map of USA either orange or yellow ? |
| 08:01.49 | Thunder_Child | bluspacecow, target of opportunity |
| 08:02.53 | A-KO | no |
| 08:02.56 | A-KO | it's an immigration map |
| 08:03.01 | A-KO | notice the "red" around Texas :P |
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| 08:04.47 | Thunder_Child | hah, http://fukung.net/v/726/sign.jpg |
| 08:05.16 | bluspacecow | >_< |
| 08:05.19 | bluspacecow | hahahhahahhahah |
| 08:05.34 | bluspacecow | glory hole lol |
| 08:05.44 | A-KO | http://fukung.net/v/11575/95d7bfbc5a76dab0ee74cb7644861830.jpg < oh that's win lol |
| 08:06.59 | A-KO | http://fukung.net/v/16406/4b66fbe978fa71c3499657bb85357929.gif < also good :P |
| 08:07.04 | Thunder_Child | sadly it's rather correct http://fukung.net/v/17655/777f967cee0e0edf47e4f8d0a6ed032f.png |
| 08:07.26 | A-KO | LOL |
| 08:07.27 | A-KO | sadly |
| 08:07.37 | bluspacecow | oh wow |
| 08:07.46 | bluspacecow | http://www.deadlybossmods.com/ still has gold seller ads at the top |
| 08:08.21 | nevcairiel | of course, didnt you know? DBM is run by gold sollers |
| 08:08.24 | nevcairiel | *sellers |
| 08:08.32 | bluspacecow | http://fukung.net/v/17655/777f967cee0e0edf47e4f8d0a6ed032f.png == no NZ |
| 08:08.34 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 08:08.47 | nevcairiel | you are kangaroos too |
| 08:08.49 | bluspacecow | we need a small dot with an arrow "they eat vegemite" |
| 08:08.56 | A-KO | the average american couldn't tell you anything about NZ, other than maybe "Lord of the rings!" |
| 08:08.59 | A-KO | if they even know that |
| 08:09.17 | bluspacecow | oh god the average american think we still run around in grass skirts |
| 08:09.21 | Elusive | lol.... that american map is great. |
| 08:09.25 | nevcairiel | you dont?!?! |
| 08:09.35 | A-KO | "cruise ships go here" Lololol |
| 08:09.36 | A-KO | so true |
| 08:09.39 | bluspacecow | ahem |
| 08:09.44 | bluspacecow | cotton skirts maybe |
| 08:10.16 | bluspacecow | cause damn it i look good in womens clothing |
| 08:10.38 | Elusive | <3 the "coffee comes from here i think" |
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| 08:17.44 | Nechckn | bluspacecow you see that, just the thought of you in a grass skirt == Internet meltdown |
| 08:17.54 | bluspacecow | ;) |
| 08:18.08 | bluspacecow | i'm a guy who looks hot in a grass skirt :) |
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| 08:18.33 | sacarasc | Pics or it's not true! |
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| 08:20.01 | bluspacecow | roflz |
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| 10:24.02 | mikma | http://www.gamespot.com/news/6215071.html |
| 10:24.30 | bluspacecow | ZOMG thats funny mikma :) |
| 10:26.01 | mikma | giddyup |
| 10:26.48 | bluspacecow | and omg the porn games :) |
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| 10:30.34 | mikma | The Brood Mother Returns - Onyxia Raid in 3.2.2 |
| 10:30.35 | mikma | woot |
| 10:30.42 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 10:30.49 | bluspacecow | bring back onyxia |
| 10:30.56 | bluspacecow | and omg watch the f****** tail |
| 10:31.22 | bluspacecow | you're going to dps slowly ...by slowly i mean really fucking slow |
| 10:32.34 | nevcairiel | throw more dots! |
| 10:36.07 | mikma | WHATTAAAAA FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 10:39.43 | mikma | fisker: http://www.mmowned.com/forums/avatars/scrawl.gif?dateline=1238203388 <- new avatar for you |
| 10:44.51 | bluspacecow | that icon needs viagra |
| 10:44.54 | bluspacecow | make go faster |
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| 10:58.44 | augustl | I wonder if the onyxia remake requires the drakefire amulet =P |
| 11:00.32 | nevcairiel | it doesnt even require it now (anymore) <.< |
| 11:03.48 | bleeter | fucking hell.. I resubscribe.. and the hang-on-changing-realms bug is STILL there in fucking 3.2 fuck |
| 11:03.58 | mikma | yeah |
| 11:04.02 | bleeter | i should've asked before ponying up my $ |
| 11:04.04 | bleeter | fuck I'm an idiot |
| 11:04.07 | mikma | i solved that by always logging out when changing realms |
| 11:04.27 | bleeter | mikma: pain in the ass for someone who wants to help auctioneer development, getting AH stats from many realms |
| 11:04.30 | bleeter | as in |
| 11:04.34 | mikma | yeap |
| 11:04.34 | bleeter | complete fucking pain in arse |
| 11:04.46 | mikma | i know it is, and if you combine authenticator to that mess.. |
| 11:05.20 | bleeter | yeah I've got authenticator... dual accounts... :/ |
| 11:05.58 | mikma | btw, how does several accounts work with battle.net? |
| 11:06.06 | mikma | how can you select the account you want to play |
| 11:06.33 | bleeter | on first login, it prompts you to select. it then saves the available account names into the config.wtf and provides a dropdown list to choose from. |
| 11:06.47 | mikma | heh, neat |
| 11:06.53 | bleeter | yeah, totally |
| 11:06.58 | bleeter | 'cept for the fucking realm list bug |
| 11:07.19 | mikma | yeah |
| 11:07.21 | mikma | connecting |
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| 11:17.31 | Cruciformer | oh happy day ... I may finally get someone at Canon to take my camera problem seriously. |
| 11:18.21 | Cruciformer | a freind of mine who is a pro sports photographer knows the director of canon professional services and he is going to personally see my camera gets fixed. woot! |
| 11:18.49 | Cruciformer | pretty soon I will have no excuse why I cant join DD :p |
| 11:21.04 | ReAn | 3,193,140 XP For Free by using 2x Heirlooms while leveling from 70-80 |
| 11:21.08 | ReAn | that's pretty insane |
| 11:21.24 | ReAn | double that if you're rested? |
| 11:21.26 | ReAn | perhaps |
| 11:21.47 | ReAn | that's 2 levels, 3.8 or so if the rested doubler works too |
| 11:23.29 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 11:23.32 | bluspacecow | oh dear |
| 11:23.36 | bluspacecow | new apple updates |
| 11:23.46 | bluspacecow | Safari 4.03 and new security updates |
| 11:24.23 | Fisker | i trolled for your sins mikma |
| 11:24.31 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 11:24.45 | bluspacecow | not feeling the love here Fisker |
| 11:24.52 | Fisker | sounds fake bluspacecow |
| 11:24.55 | bleeter | Fisker: troll moar |
| 11:24.58 | bluspacecow | what is ? |
| 11:25.01 | Fisker | With Macs you don't have to worry about security |
| 11:25.04 | Fisker | the ads even say so |
| 11:25.10 | bluspacecow | pffft yes you do |
| 11:25.18 | Fisker | no |
| 11:25.22 | bluspacecow | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222. |
| 11:25.24 | Fisker | Mac is superior to PC in that way |
| 11:25.25 | bluspacecow | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222 |
| 11:25.31 | bluspacecow | i know |
| 11:25.40 | bluspacecow | its still a security update tho |
| 11:25.45 | Cruciformer | Fisker: You dont need to worry about security with macs because there arent enough of them out there to warrant a hackers time. Security through obscurity ftw. |
| 11:25.45 | Fisker | PC is the reason why we can't have nice things (but keyloggers, etc) |
| 11:26.20 | bluspacecow | im more worried about the Safari update ...both have been automatically downloaded and want to install now |
| 11:26.43 | bluspacecow | "Apple has released a couple of security updates for OS X 10.5 and 10.4. These updates address a problem in the way DNS messages are handled, which can allow an attacker to interrupt the DNS service. |
| 11:26.44 | bluspacecow | " |
| 11:26.45 | Cruciformer | why would you use safria and not firefox anyway? |
| 11:26.47 | bluspacecow | opps |
| 11:26.54 | bluspacecow | i use both |
| 11:27.02 | bluspacecow | Firefox is a dog if I love it open too long |
| 11:27.10 | bluspacecow | Safari doesn't have that problem |
| 11:27.31 | bluspacecow | plus i dont like its UI |
| 11:27.57 | ReAn | Chrome > Safari & FF anyway :) |
| 11:28.18 | Cruciformer | can u even get chrome for mac? |
| 11:28.22 | ReAn | soon |
| 11:28.32 | ReAn | when the linux version that's in beta is out yea |
| 11:28.33 | bluspacecow | umm i think you can |
| 11:28.43 | bluspacecow | but Safari 4's just like it |
| 11:28.55 | bluspacecow | and stable and not in beta and avaliable now |
| 11:29.10 | ReAn | well either way, you're using a mac, so you're screwed |
| 11:29.11 | ReAn | lol |
| 11:29.15 | Fisker | need moar scene rules on OS releases plx ;( |
| 11:29.22 | bluspacecow | rofls i likes it in the rear |
| 11:29.34 | bleeter | lol people going orgasm+ over chrome and bagging ff, chrome ain't that hot either |
| 11:29.51 | bleeter | just as every OS sucks, every browser sucks |
| 11:30.09 | bleeter | maybe even BECAUSE every OS sucks |
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| 11:30.42 | ReAn | is minamalist when it comes to browsing |
| 11:30.47 | ReAn | hence my love for chrome |
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| 11:31.48 | bleeter | not to mention HTTP is a fubar protocol for Web-arhea 2.0 stuff |
| 11:31.58 | bleeter | square pegs and round holes |
| 11:32.23 | bleeter | minimalist browsing? use 'telnet host 80' |
| 11:32.32 | bleeter | or elinks, if you really must |
| 11:32.44 | ReAn | not that minimalist |
| 11:35.27 | ReAn | that's not minimalist anyway, it's closer to massochist :p |
| 11:38.55 | bluspacecow | ok guys |
| 11:39.02 | bluspacecow | phew system update time brb |
| 11:39.15 | ReAn | fuck i miss leveling on my prot pally instead of my shaman, where i could actually pull like 12 mobs and live |
| 11:41.15 | sacarasc | I levelled my shaman with a prot paladin, so we took on 15+ mobs sometimes. |
| 11:42.23 | ReAn | well yea, cuz the paladin prolly can take 12 of them himself |
| 11:47.55 | bleeter | I levelled my holy priest and feral druid together... that was some heavy win |
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| 13:14.59 | Lopeppeppy | new... Onyxia? She's not level 60 anymore? *sigh* |
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| 13:19.34 | Pneumatus | what I want to know is where did she go to level up, because I never saw her! |
| 13:20.05 | Lopeppeppy | I think Arthas rode her into Icecrown or something, to spar with the frozen drakes or something. |
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| 13:32.55 | foxlit | I bet she casts deep breath more often. |
| 13:33.29 | nevcairiel | and they change the logic of deep breath every week on maintenance |
| 13:34.50 | olafski | everybody knows the amount of deep breaths is directly related to the amount of dots on her |
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| 13:37.56 | Lopeppeppy | I'm just sad that level 60 content is being yoinked... but I guess level 60 raiding isn't where it's at anymore... |
| 13:38.38 | Lopeppeppy | But damn it to hell, I tossed my Ony cloak and necklace because they weren't necessary anymore. Now they will be again, so people will be raiding to get the materials again for the cloak. Seems like a painful "gift" |
| 13:38.59 | bluspacecow | Loppy |
| 13:39.03 | olafski | the ony scale cloak wasn't needed for onyxia |
| 13:39.08 | olafski | and I doubt they will add the attunement again |
| 13:39.17 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.24 | Lopeppeppy | Wait, then I have it backward... you raided ony to raid BWL, right. |
| 13:39.30 | Lopeppeppy | I should not whine before I have caffeine. |
| 13:39.46 | olafski | indeed :) |
| 13:40.00 | Kraps | where do i see whats the latest version of Minion? |
| 13:40.09 | bluspacecow | wowinterface.com |
| 13:40.24 | bluspacecow | theres also a miniononion site but i cant remember it |
| 13:41.07 | Kraps | the minion site doesnt say what version it is |
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| 13:43.21 | Lopeppeppy | I think that's because it's still beta, doesn't make sense to try to keep version numbers updated everywhere, when they change fast. |
| 13:44.06 | nevcairiel | change fast? there hasnt been an update to minion for a while :D |
| 13:46.30 | zenzelezz | tickles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:46.33 | Lopeppeppy | Really? Not beta anymore then! :) |
| 13:46.36 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzelezz. |
| 13:47.26 | nevcairiel | its still pretty incomplete, just not being updated, if you ask me :P |
| 13:47.39 | Lopeppeppy | That's the fun of a volunteer project. :) |
| 13:48.31 | Kraps | nevcairiel: wonder if firefox is out of beta XD |
| 13:49.06 | Kraps | update every other week |
| 13:49.33 | nevcairiel | who cares, it works fine |
| 13:49.41 | Kraps | i know |
| 13:49.59 | Kraps | minion works fine too |
| 13:50.32 | nevcairiel | its having troubles with detecting addons, and missing some features that i would like |
| 13:51.30 | zenzelezz | wonders when someon will mention Gmail |
| 13:51.34 | zenzelezz | +e |
| 13:51.43 | nevcairiel | gmail is out of beta :P |
| 13:51.54 | zenzelezz | yeah, after only what, five years *in* beta? |
| 13:52.48 | foxlit | "Hey, blizzard, you ought to use phasing more!" |
| 13:52.59 | foxlit | "WHY CAN'T I SEE MY PARTY MEMBERS, BLIZZARD, WHY?!" |
| 13:53.01 | zenzelezz | I'm amused that there is a Gmail Labs feature to put "Beta" back on the logo |
| 13:53.11 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:54.05 | Kraps | foxlit: OMG REMAKE OLD CONTENT |
| 13:54.20 | Kraps | hey heres onyxia! |
| 13:54.28 | Lopeppeppy | Bigger! More dots! |
| 13:54.32 | Kraps | OMG NO NEW CONTENT |
| 13:54.33 | Lopeppeppy | Many whelps, handle it! |
| 13:54.58 | Kraps | I hate people |
| 13:56.07 | Kraps | THATS |
| 13:56.09 | Kraps | A |
| 13:56.10 | Kraps | FUCKING |
| 13:56.12 | Kraps | 50 |
| 13:56.13 | Kraps | DKP |
| 13:56.15 | Kraps | MINUS!!!!!!111111 |
| 13:57.15 | Lopeppeppy | I thought it was 50 fucking dkp... that adjective is so slippery in its placement. |
| 13:57.51 | Kraps | so what about 50 regular dkp? |
| 13:58.02 | Lopeppeppy | Those come from another pool. |
| 13:58.16 | Industrial | I'll take the fucking points |
| 13:58.34 | Lopeppeppy | I could use a few of those too, nom nom nom. |
| 13:58.40 | Kraps | http://xkcd.com/90/ |
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| 14:02.52 | foxlit | I'm slightly concerned about onyxia's same-model items. |
| 14:03.06 | foxlit | I don't think she dropped much more than tier 2 helms |
| 14:03.23 | Kraps | what do you think the difficulty level will be? |
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| 14:03.42 | foxlit | Naxx-like |
| 14:03.51 | Kraps | also what does the tank do during the air phase? |
| 14:03.59 | foxlit | whelps |
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| 14:04.22 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 14:04.35 | foxlit | Hm, she also had a book, a belt and a cloak |
| 14:05.46 | kneeki | What's the name of that MySQL management software that you can get for free from Microsoft? I can't remember the name =\ |
| 14:06.00 | foxlit | mysql... free... microsoft... |
| 14:06.07 | foxlit | does not compute. melting. |
| 14:06.11 | kneeki | lol |
| 14:06.28 | kneeki | I had a copy installed before I reformatted yesterday. But I can't remember the name of it |
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| 14:07.23 | foxlit | "Re: The Brood Mother Returns: THAT'S A 50 DKP MINUS" |
| 14:08.02 | Kraps | man thats gonna get old fast |
| 14:08.43 | nevcairiel | thats been aroudn since early classic |
| 14:08.46 | nevcairiel | its not old yet |
| 14:09.25 | Kraps | its going to reach critical mass now |
| 14:09.43 | Kraps | in a way it hasn't yet |
| 14:09.51 | zenzelezz | we'll have a whole new wave of ONYXIA DEEP BREATHS MORE!!! posts each downtime after 3.2.2 |
| 14:11.14 | foxlit | I hear she's soloable |
| 14:12.04 | Kraps | foxlit: going to test that now |
| 14:12.24 | foxlit | is a tree. Trees don't like fire. Outlook grim. |
| 14:12.53 | Kraps | ah |
| 14:12.57 | kneeki | Ah ha! |
| 14:12.59 | kneeki | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c243a5ae-4bd1-4e3d-94b8-5a0f62bf7796&DisplayLang=en#filelist |
| 14:13.01 | kneeki | I wasn't crazy! |
| 14:13.05 | Kraps | no dual spec? |
| 14:13.15 | foxlit | kneeki: yes you were. |
| 14:13.23 | foxlit | Microsoft SQL Server != MySQL |
| 14:13.37 | kneeki | oh |
| 14:14.02 | haste | mssql ~= mysql |
| 14:14.13 | zenzelezz | isn't there also an msql? |
| 14:14.22 | Pneumatus | i wonder whos gonna drop T2 helms when onyxia is revamped |
| 14:14.32 | zenzelezz | no-one? |
| 14:14.49 | sacarasc | Same bosses that drop T3.. |
| 14:14.58 | ZorbaBeta | are they revamping Onyxia in her current location, or moving/duplicating her? |
| 14:14.59 | zenzelezz | was just about to say :) |
| 14:15.00 | foxlit | I wonder who's going to want to wear T2-lookalike helms with no other t2-looklalike gear. |
| 14:15.09 | ZorbaBeta | and is there, like, any plot explanation for this? |
| 14:15.17 | foxlit | ZorbaBeta: not yet. |
| 14:15.33 | zenzelezz | "After five years hanging around Stormwind, Onyxia's grown tired and wants some proper action" |
| 14:15.37 | Pneumatus | would she make sense in the obsidian sanctum? |
| 14:15.39 | foxlit | The department of Storyline Revision will get back to you on that. |
| 14:15.46 | foxlit | Technically, Varian soloed her. |
| 14:16.02 | Kraps | foxlit: there is officially no story |
| 14:16.02 | zenzelezz | Varian? |
| 14:16.08 | Fisker | http://translationparty.com/#1323831 <-wut |
| 14:16.16 | ZorbaBeta | pneu, they could just toss her next to OS without it being a problem plotwise |
| 14:16.25 | ZorbaBeta | I mean, that entire sanctum area is pretty much a black hole plotwise |
| 14:16.33 | foxlit | Except OS already has a black flight chamber. |
| 14:17.02 | ZorbaBeta | foxlit, so what? for all we know, Sarth is an eviler black dragon who's turned against the Black Dragonflight |
| 14:17.03 | foxlit | zenzelezz: you know, the alliance leader that's right after Fandral in line to be against the wall when the revolution comes. |
| 14:17.11 | ZorbaBeta | maybe Onyxia's decided to go invade the Blue Dragonflight's sanctum |
| 14:17.16 | ZorbaBeta | it's not like anyone's using it now |
| 14:17.32 | sacarasc | http://translationparty.com/#1323878 Fisker food of love. |
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| 14:17.53 | zenzelezz | foxlit: I must have missed ths thing when Varian did anything to Onyxia; all I remember is her toddling off when Bolvar was fighting off all the dragonkin |
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| 14:18.05 | foxlit | zenzelezz: Comics, unfortunately. |
| 14:18.11 | zenzelezz | oh, that would explain it |
| 14:18.12 | ZorbaBeta | I mean, seriously, we have zero lore information about wtf Sarth is doing there, besides dropping epic purpz |
| 14:18.14 | zenzelezz | haven't seen those |
| 14:18.19 | foxlit | Just like they're doing something to C'Thun |
| 14:18.32 | foxlit | ZorbaBeta: actually, that's a novel. |
| 14:18.35 | tem | ZorbaBeta, he's making Twilight dragon |
| 14:18.36 | tem | s |
| 14:18.46 | ZorbaBeta | ah, really? nice, was that relatively recent? |
| 14:18.48 | tem | it's typical Deathwing |
| 14:18.59 | tem | screwing with the "DNA" of dragons |
| 14:19.02 | Kraps | sacarasc: so how does that work? when does it stop translating? |
| 14:19.32 | sacarasc | Fisker food of love is the last one. |
| 14:19.53 | foxlit | ZorbaBeta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.html?curid=2023770 |
| 14:19.56 | zenzelezz | I still want to see Deathwing reappear |
| 14:19.59 | foxlit | (odd link, really) |
| 14:20.13 | nevcairiel | It stops translating when the translation doesnt change anymore |
| 14:21.17 | Pneumatus | have they updated it recently, it seems to be finding matches a lot quicker now :o |
| 14:21.33 | Kraps | bah, i need to be in a raid to do ony |
| 14:21.45 | zenzelezz | kinky |
| 14:22.04 | Kraps | no ones on in guild |
| 14:24.48 | Kraps | http://translationparty.com/#1324215 |
| 14:25.09 | nevcairiel | sometimes that really confuses me |
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| 14:27.01 | Kraps | http://translationparty.com/#1324320 |
| 14:27.55 | foxlit | What browser do you use, Kraps? |
| 14:28.11 | Kraps | firefox, why? |
| 14:28.23 | haste | http://translationparty.com/#1324424 |
| 14:28.38 | foxlit | I wonder who I blacklisted, then. |
| 14:29.28 | foxlit | [Those links do not render anything meaningful for me in firefox] |
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| 14:30.06 | ZorbaBeta | http://www.dump.com/2009/08/13/four-perfectly-round-circles/ hah. |
| 14:30.20 | nevcairiel | old. :) |
| 14:30.24 | Kraps | anyone here on stormreaver-us? |
| 14:30.25 | haste | http://translationparty.com/#1324516 hahaahah |
| 14:30.26 | nevcairiel | wobin linked that 2 days ago or so :d |
| 14:30.41 | foxlit | Answer my question about it, then. |
| 14:30.45 | Kraps | cool |
| 14:30.48 | nevcairiel | lol haste |
| 14:30.59 | foxlit | Does the illusion still persist if we get rid of the excessive rotation of the squares? |
| 14:31.08 | Wobin | foxlit: I don't believe so |
| 14:31.18 | Wobin | the rotation of the squares gives the illusion of spirals |
| 14:31.21 | nevcairiel | I bet its done with the rotation |
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| 14:34.14 | Squeese | is there constants for the classes? like CLASS_WARRIOR something, or do I have to create a locale file for that? |
| 14:34.51 | nevcairiel | LOCALIZED_CLASS_NAMES_MALE["WARRIOR"] |
| 14:35.12 | Squeese | cool thx :) |
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| 14:37.28 | Scorcher24 | hi folks |
| 14:37.40 | Aelobin | rawr |
| 14:39.13 | Scorcher24 | excuse me for running into here and bother you, but I am in a little haste hehe. I have finally all my secure buttons up and running. But I have a problem with the loading of variables. I catch the VARIABLES_LOADED-event but when I run my Show/Hide-function there, the buttons are not hidden or shown depending on the state when logging out. Which event is the correct one to show/hide secure buttons? |
| 14:39.36 | haste | PEW |
| 14:39.47 | Scorcher24 | :D hi haste :P |
| 14:40.14 | Lopeppeppy | pounces cogwheel!! |
| 14:41.06 | Kraps | http://www.dump.com/2009/08/10/this-is-why-you-shouldnt-allow-your-boss-to-be-your-facebook-friend/ |
| 14:41.16 | haste | (PLAYER_ENTNRING_WORLD was the answer) |
| 14:42.16 | Scorcher24 | so much thanks to you :) |
| 14:43.01 | Fisker | Adys |
| 14:43.10 | Fisker | obviously you remember all the translation parties you posted |
| 14:43.19 | Fisker | remember the one where it kept adding "Please" to the sentence? |
| 14:44.52 | Adys | ya |
| 14:45.34 | Fisker | i.e. do you have a link? :P |
| 14:45.39 | Adys | "Don't panic" |
| 14:45.59 | Fisker | doesn't work anymore :( |
| 14:46.12 | Fisker | Don't panic please |
| 14:46.13 | Fisker | does |
| 14:46.44 | Adys | "Don't panic." then |
| 14:46.51 | Adys | or Do not panic |
| 14:48.27 | Fisker | http://translationparty.com/#1325426 |
| 14:48.36 | Kraps | http://translationparty.com/#1324452 |
| 14:49.00 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/#1325586 Fisker |
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| 14:51.56 | Pneumatus | haha |
| 14:52.12 | Adys | but |
| 14:52.12 | Adys | imo |
| 14:52.14 | Adys | baby kicks |
| 14:55.33 | Aelobin | where's that site where you can view the framexml online? :P |
| 14:55.39 | Aelobin | ~framexml |
| 14:55.40 | purl | Official: (Mac) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.dmg, (Win) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.zip. Compare: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 14:55.40 | Fisker | http://translationparty.com/#1325785 |
| 14:55.44 | Aelobin | aha :P |
| 14:56.05 | Fisker | http://translationparty.com/#1325924 |
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| 14:59.42 | Squeese | Anyone have a tips on where I can learn how to create a metatable? |
| 14:59.55 | cog|work | pounces back @ Lopeppeppy |
| 15:01.17 | Shirik | pounces Lopeppeppy |
| 15:02.48 | foxlit | the lua reference manual, of course. |
| 15:03.00 | foxlit | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.8 |
| 15:03.35 | Shirik | and pil |
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| 15:04.14 | foxlit | pil narrates things -- it's more concerned with "what for" than "how" :) |
| 15:04.41 | Squeese | foxlit: ah ok, thx :) |
| 15:04.59 | Lopeppeppy | rolls with the pounces, life is good! |
| 15:05.01 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Shirik! |
| 15:05.07 | Shirik | hi! |
| 15:06.50 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:07.37 | cog|work | slaps Fisker around a bit with a Shirik |
| 15:08.11 | Fisker | stop it |
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| 15:10.28 | cog|work | din mor |
| 15:10.45 | Fisker | no your mom |
| 15:11.13 | cog|work | non ta mere |
| 15:11.48 | Adys | amro: hes calling for you |
| 15:12.09 | foxlit | Haha. |
| 15:12.24 | Adys | why are you laughing? |
| 15:12.37 | foxlit | At you, of course. |
| 15:12.44 | foxlit | Blizzard's policy of marking their addons as secure even if they need no secure privileges finally caught up with them. |
| 15:13.00 | Adys | it's not funny. |
| 15:13.11 | cog|work | foxlit: ? |
| 15:13.12 | Fisker | what are we talking aboooooout? |
| 15:13.25 | foxlit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19110028720&sid=1 |
| 15:14.02 | foxlit | Adys: You're right, of course, you're not funny. |
| 15:14.18 | Fisker | unless ace3 is hooking dump it's not working here |
| 15:14.37 | Fisker | i wonder if you can use GM protected macros |
| 15:14.38 | Fisker | hoho |
| 15:15.31 | Adys | they added a /dump ooh |
| 15:16.00 | mikma | haha |
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| 15:16.08 | mikma | that's... awesome |
| 15:16.18 | mikma | exploit while you still can! |
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| 15:17.07 | Adys | only works on my enus client |
| 15:17.27 | Adys | Wait, hmm thats odd |
| 15:17.43 | nicoli_s | wow, what an exploit |
| 15:17.50 | Fisker | ~wowcompares |
| 15:17.51 | purl | hmm... wowcompares is http://wowcompares.com, which is currently not working properly. In the meantime you can view the changes to WoW's FrameXML at http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or on GitHub at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/tree/master/FrameXML |
| 15:18.40 | nicoli_s | lol, who made purl act like hes thinking hard |
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| 15:23.35 | Shirik | nicoli_s: It's random when the <reply> command is not in the factoid |
| 15:23.37 | Shirik | ~wowcompares |
| 15:23.38 | purl | well, wowcompares is http://wowcompares.com, which is currently not working properly. In the meantime you can view the changes to WoW's FrameXML at http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or on GitHub at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/tree/master/FrameXML |
| 15:23.48 | Shirik | ~wowcompares |
| 15:23.49 | purl | rumour has it, wowcompares is http://wowcompares.com, which is currently not working properly. In the meantime you can view the changes to WoW's FrameXML at http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or on GitHub at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/tree/master/FrameXML |
| 15:23.52 | Shirik | etc. |
| 15:24.20 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 15:30.09 | Fisker | damn |
| 15:30.15 | Fisker | if only i could use /dump :P |
| 15:30.22 | Fisker | i could make a one-button macro for my rotation |
| 15:30.29 | Shirik | and you can't use /dump because? |
| 15:30.47 | Fisker | Something taints it |
| 15:30.51 | mikma | .. |
| 15:30.53 | mikma | assmonkey |
| 15:31.35 | Fisker | naw, i wouldn't want to be you mikma |
| 15:31.50 | mikma | but you are more than me already |
| 15:33.22 | Shirik | watching two trolls go at each other is like watching that ALICE vs Jabberwacky |
| 15:36.52 | mikma | i know fisker is a troll, but i don't see the other one :O |
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| 15:43.46 | Wobin | http://tywkiwdbi.blogspot.com/2009/08/kseniya-simonova-ukrainian-sand-artist.html |
| 15:43.49 | Wobin | she's pretty awesome |
| 15:45.31 | mikma | wobin: might be, too bad the video is blocked |
| 15:46.09 | Wobin | works for me? |
| 15:46.15 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=518XP8prwZo&feature=player_embedded ? |
| 15:46.23 | MentalPower | SFW? |
| 15:48.24 | Wobin | aye |
| 15:48.42 | Fisker | rage Wobin |
| 15:48.43 | Fisker | rage |
| 15:49.37 | mikma | wobin: This video is not available in your country due to copyright restrictions. |
| 15:49.38 | Wobin | Nah, Ukraine's Got Talent |
| 15:49.44 | Wobin | odd |
| 15:49.57 | Wobin | maybe search on her name on youtube |
| 15:50.32 | Fisker | never |
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| 15:56.46 | MentalPower | worked for me, its simply amazing |
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| 16:15.00 | Duman | uh |
| 16:15.17 | Duman | foxlit: wow, just saw that thread |
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| 16:18.07 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:18.18 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, dear. |
| 16:21.56 | Duman | you guys see this? |
| 16:21.56 | Duman | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19110028720&sid=1 |
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| 16:23.50 | alestane | Oh yes. |
| 16:24.08 | alestane | Don't get too attached to it. |
| 16:24.20 | Duman | no, I mean, as a bug :P |
| 16:24.43 | Duman | sort of an "oops", I guess... heh |
| 16:25.38 | Lunessa | Yeah, looks like an oops to me. |
| 16:28.59 | Ackis | bah jumping in game is game breaking! :P |
| 16:29.33 | alestane | Ackis: It could be used for much more game-breaking things which I won't go into here. |
| 16:30.04 | Duman | heh |
| 16:30.04 | Ackis | alestane: I know :P |
| 16:30.04 | Ackis | plus lawsuits |
| 16:30.11 | Duman | yay, edited |
| 16:30.22 | Ackis | how many people would sue blizzard because they got lazy and made a macro to jump/attack instead of ADDing and doing it themselves |
| 16:30.55 | Duman | lol |
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| 16:43.58 | Zyndrome | takes a deep breath. |
| 16:44.07 | Lopeppeppy | More dots, more dots! |
| 16:44.09 | Lopeppeppy | Stop all dots! |
| 16:50.24 | Lunessa | ckknight: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19110412214&sid=1 - you might want to look at this for Curse Client on Windows Vista 64 |
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| 16:57.05 | olafski | is there something wrong with the addon config screen (character select)? when I select one char and click "disable all", the addons are disabled for all other chars too =( |
| 16:58.38 | MentalPower | hasn't it always worked that way? |
| 17:00.12 | Lopeppeppy | Should be separate by character... |
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| 17:07.20 | Legorol | olafski: there is one situation under which that occurs |
| 17:07.42 | Legorol | on a fresh WoW, where you have just installed addons, the game doesn't have yet a list of which addons should be enabled/disabled for which char |
| 17:07.59 | Legorol | as soon as you disable an addon for one char, it's disabled for all, and then it's recorder on a per-char basis |
| 17:08.10 | Legorol | from that point on, you can enable/disable separately for each char |
| 17:08.58 | Legorol | in more technical terms: the state of an addon on a per-char basis is *undefined* when the list in AddOns.txt hasn't been generated yet. Undefined is interpreted as enabled for all chars by default. |
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| 17:13.17 | olafski | hmm |
| 17:13.21 | olafski | but I've been playing for half a year |
| 17:13.27 | olafski | strange |
| 17:13.58 | Lopeppeppy | Strange is normal for computers, they're tricky |
| 17:14.01 | olafski | ^^ |
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| 17:23.56 | Slafsinator | It's time they fix that shit. It pisses me off >:| |
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| 17:28.20 | foxlit | "Improve codes to 3.2" << forum posts are awesome. |
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| 17:32.22 | augustl | "World server is down" |
| 17:32.37 | Kraps | http://translationparty.com/#1335009 |
| 17:34.14 | Lopeppeppy | http://translationparty.com/#1335148 |
| 17:34.41 | Legorol | Kraps: typo makes it unfun. Try like this: http://translationparty.com/#1335155 |
| 17:35.09 | Kraps | ah |
| 17:35.25 | Kraps | much better :D |
| 17:35.30 | Lopeppeppy | I found one that will never reach equilibrium... |
| 17:35.55 | Legorol | yah there are some self-extending patterns |
| 17:35.55 | foxlit | Peppy: mostly because it doesn't detect loops. |
| 17:36.31 | Lunessa | In honor of Onyxia's impending return... http://translationparty.com/#1335285 |
| 17:37.16 | foxlit | Hm, it *requires* google analytics. |
| 17:37.18 | foxlit | bastards. |
| 17:37.32 | alestane | Does it just stick that "Shame on you, by the way" in there because it detected 'proscribed' language? |
| 17:38.01 | Lopeppeppy | I used some proscribed language... http://translationparty.com/#1335430 |
| 17:38.43 | olafski | http://translationparty.com/#1335457 |
| 17:40.54 | olafski | silly japanese and their phonetic writing |
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| 17:48.48 | cbreak | they have other writing systems too |
| 17:49.09 | Kraps | http://translationparty.com/#1336314 <-- christian bale |
| 17:52.21 | olafski | XD |
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| 17:53.59 | Lunessa | I can do it in the cold light - pretty bold words, sir. |
| 17:54.19 | Bruners | tekkub: did the patch break tekaccept? |
| 17:54.52 | Legorol | this translationparty is made all the more fun by the fact that I'm fluent in Japanese... some of the steps it takes cracks me up |
| 17:54.55 | alestane | Its translations are not very good most of the time. |
| 17:55.12 | Legorol | i think that's an understatement :) |
| 17:55.28 | Legorol | alestane: do you speak Japanese too? (or more importantly, read it?) |
| 17:55.33 | alestane | BOth. |
| 17:55.33 | nevcairiel | Its just google translations |
| 17:55.42 | nevcairiel | its not good for any language |
| 17:55.57 | Legorol | alestane: woot! how come? |
| 17:56.25 | Legorol | I've been infected by Japanese at the age of 7, when my father had to travel there for work so we lived there for two years |
| 17:57.06 | Legorol | one big benefit: I can enjoy anime with original voices :) |
| 17:57.24 | Cruciformer | any subversion users out there? |
| 17:57.55 | nevcairiel | i try not to be |
| 17:57.55 | Legorol | Cruciformer: yah, me, I usually put 3 points in it in any dps spec I use on my DK |
| 17:57.55 | Cruciformer | when I add a file to a repo I want to know how I can force it to be considered a binary file not a text file. |
| 17:58.04 | Legorol | oh, that subversion >.< |
| 17:58.11 | Cruciformer | lol Legorol |
| 17:58.14 | Legorol | sorry, i thought this is a WoW channel, took the word in-context |
| 17:58.29 | Cruciformer | its also my backup smart-people channel :) |
| 17:58.34 | Legorol | :) |
| 17:58.40 | Legorol | it's probably more often that than anything else |
| 17:58.41 | Adys | pokes Legotroll |
| 17:58.45 | Legorol | haha |
| 17:58.49 | Legorol | grats Adys, you noticed |
| 17:58.53 | nevcairiel | Cruciformer: set a svn:mime-type |
| 17:58.59 | Legorol | i should use that name really |
| 17:59.14 | Legorol | Legotroll (TM, (C), BBQ) |
| 17:59.19 | alestane | Or, as I usually say when people comment on my Japanese, ã§ããªããã¨ã¯ã¾ã ããããããã¾ãããåå¼·ãã¨ãã¾ããããå°ãã§ããããã«ãªãã¾ãããã |
| 17:59.28 | Cruciformer | nevcairiel: with svn propset? |
| 17:59.33 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 17:59.38 | nevcairiel | add file, set property, commit |
| 17:59.51 | Adys | \\u3067\u304d\u306a\u3044\u3053\u3068\u306f\u307e\u3060\u305f\u304f\u3055\u3093\u3042\u308a\u307e\u3059\u304c\u3001\u52c9\u5f37\u3057\u3068\u308a\u307e\u3059\u304b\u3089\u3001\u5c11\u3057\u3067\u304d\u308b\u3088\u3046\u306b\u306a\u308a\u307e\u3057\u305f\u306d\u3002 to you too, alestane |
| 17:59.52 | Legorol | alestane: leave off the last "ne" :) otherwise, way cool |
| 18:00.05 | nevcairiel | application/octet-stream is usually used for bianrys |
| 18:00.06 | Cruciformer | application/octet-stream I assume? |
| 18:00.13 | Cruciformer | snap :) |
| 18:00.30 | Cruciformer | many thanks nevcairiel |
| 18:00.37 | Legorol | alestane: your formalism is that of a middle-aged servant, in case that matters ;) |
| 18:00.40 | Legorol | (male one) |
| 18:00.52 | Legorol | however, the "ne" at the end throws that off |
| 18:01.05 | alestane | It's only semi-formalized anyway. |
| 18:01.13 | theorbtwo | There's a setting for "middle-aged male servant"? |
| 18:01.23 | KarlKFI | lol |
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| 18:01.44 | Adys | theorbtwo: try the middle button with a penis. |
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| 18:01.49 | Adys | hi tekkub |
| 18:02.00 | alestane | It's mostly something to say when people say "ãæ¥æ¬èªã¯ä¸æã§ãããã |
| 18:02.33 | theorbtwo | I knew Japanese had a lot of different ways to declinate depending on who you are and who you are speaking to... but, um, that's a bit specific... |
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| 18:03.12 | alestane | Most of the clues he's looking at are hints more than explicit specifications. |
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| 18:04.47 | theorbtwo | Ah, more "this is the style that people who were born in the 1960s tend to speak in", rather then "this is how you should speak when you are in your 50s". |
| 18:04.55 | alestane | Legorol: I suppose I could replace the ã with ã¨æãã |
| 18:04.59 | Lunessa | knows words for food types, and a few phrases gleaned from animae. |
| 18:05.21 | theorbtwo | That's more then I know. |
| 18:05.36 | theorbtwo | can say "yes, sir", and "thank you". |
| 18:05.46 | alestane | Or ã¨æãã¾ãã, really. |
| 18:05.53 | theorbtwo | If I really racked my brain, I might be able to manage "no". |
| 18:06.01 | kd3 | iie |
| 18:06.18 | alestane | Or iya, or ieie, again depending on formalism and context. |
| 18:07.22 | Adys | There is one anime fan in this scrollback. Can you spot him? You have 30 seconds! |
| 18:07.22 | kd3 | glances around |
| 18:07.22 | kd3 | hey, what's that mirror doing there? |
| 18:07.27 | theorbtwo | Hey, "thank you" has nothing to do with Anime! It's the 80s! |
| 18:08.37 | alestane | I'm finally reaching the point where I can puzzle out some Osakaben phrases, but that's harder. |
| 18:09.12 | alestane | ãã©ãã¾ããã took me a couple of minutes. |
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| 18:11.28 | Kraps | http://translationparty.com/#1337910 |
| 18:12.47 | alestane | Legorol: For me it started with anime/manga, but I spent most of a year living there and took a year's worth of classes at Cornel before that. |
| 18:12.54 | alestane | Cornell* |
| 18:13.14 | Duman | http://translationparty.com/#1338036 |
| 18:13.30 | Kraps | why does capitalization make a difference? |
| 18:14.05 | ScytheBlade1 | "I helped my uncle Jack off a horse" vs "I helped my uncle jack off a horse" |
| 18:14.08 | ScytheBlade1 | It makes a difference. |
| 18:14.13 | Duman | HAHAHAH |
| 18:14.16 | Duman | nice, sbo |
| 18:14.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Subtle, eh |
| 18:14.39 | Duman | punctuation works better there ;) |
| 18:14.39 | olafski | hey, some UI question if I may :) I'm trying to make an options frame for my addon, the testing seemed to go alright so far, but all of a sudden I'm getting [string "InterfaceOptionsToggleNamesPanel:OnLoad"]:1: attempt to call global 'ToggleNamesOptionsFrame_OnLoad' (a nil value).. how come? this method is defined in my lua file =( |
| 18:15.09 | olafski | hm, seems the entire lua file isn't ran.. what could cause that? +( |
| 18:15.17 | Fisker | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:15.18 | Adys | a syntax error, likely |
| 18:15.20 | Duman | error part way through? |
| 18:15.20 | alestane | Does your ToC call the Lua file before the XML file? |
| 18:15.21 | Fisker | cause it's easier to slap |
| 18:15.49 | olafski | alestane: my toc file doesn't call the lua at all, the xml file does |
| 18:15.54 | Kraps | amazing http://translationparty.com/#1338221 |
| 18:16.01 | Adys | olafski: thats not gonna work |
| 18:16.24 | olafski | adys: oh, I am just looking at other addons for "inspiration" and another addon seemed to do that |
| 18:16.31 | Adys | umm |
| 18:16.41 | Adys | I dont know I havent messed with tocs in a while |
| 18:16.52 | alestane | Then yes, either you have a typo in the function name that you're not catching or something is causing the Lua file to bail. Do you have "Display Lua Errors" turned on in Interface Options? |
| 18:17.08 | olafski | alestane: probably not, let's see :) |
| 18:17.27 | olafski | no it's enabled, no errors though apart from this one I mentioned |
| 18:17.32 | Kraps | http://translationparty.com/#1338328 |
| 18:17.53 | alestane | Adys: The <Script file="whatever.lua" /> still works, although it's often described as deprecated. But since it's still used throughout the stock UI, I don't see that changing anytime soon. |
| 18:18.25 | olafski | alestane: ok I'll put it in the toc then, I just figured they had it in the xml because the xml needs to know about it or something |
| 18:19.01 | alestane | As long as it's in the TOC *before* the XML, it'll have the same basic effect as a <Script> element at the beginning of the XML. |
| 18:19.20 | olafski | well, I wouldn't want to use deprecated stuff unless I absolutely have to =) |
| 18:19.21 | End | looking for 2 more is just as strange: http://translationparty.com/#1338400 |
| 18:19.55 | olafski | still the same error obviously.. I'm not getting that fancy lua error frame either, just the old red box with an ok button |
| 18:20.51 | alestane | Then match the function up by cutting and pasting one to the other, to make sure there are no sneaky typos. |
| 18:20.54 | olafski | found one typo, = instead of == ;) |
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| 18:21.02 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/#1338595 |
| 18:21.03 | Adys | nope. |
| 18:21.47 | Kraps | is this a programing argument? http://translationparty.com/#1338576 |
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| 18:22.04 | alestane | I love how sometimes it manages to come out with a complete opposite: http://translationparty.com/#1338644 |
| 18:22.41 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/#1338717 |
| 18:22.42 | tem | http://translationparty.com/#1338732 |
| 18:23.06 | Kraps | http://translationparty.com/#1338757 |
| 18:23.29 | alestane | Although the story I originally heard was about doing one pass of this with English and Russian, to see how distortion happened. They gave it "Out of sight, out of mind" and it came back with "blind idiot." |
| 18:23.35 | olafski | already did the copypaste trick btw ;) now I get another error about trying to access my saved variable which is nil. should I use VARIABLES_LOADED or ADDON_LOADED to initialize my variables? |
| 18:23.50 | Kraps | that is epic tem |
| 18:24.01 | Cralor` | Anyone here use Talented? I cannot open the Glyph frame. |
| 18:24.08 | alestane | ADDON_LOADED, generally, as long as you check to make sure that it's your add-on being loaded. |
| 18:24.29 | Adys | ~wwquotes |
| 18:24.30 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowwiki/irc-quotes |
| 18:24.53 | olafski | alestane: that's what I do; then I do "if ToggleNames = nil then ToggleNames = TOGGLENAMES_DEFAULTS end", that should get my ToggleNames variable set up _before_ the options panel tries to access them right? :S |
| 18:24.56 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/#1338935 |
| 18:25.18 | alestane | if ToggleNames == nil then |
| 18:25.56 | olafski | eh yes I actually have that, that's what I fixed earlier ;p |
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| 18:26.50 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/#1339060 pasting random wowiquotes in it |
| 18:26.56 | Adys | that works too |
| 18:27.24 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/#1339119 woah. |
| 18:27.34 | Kraps | http://translationparty.com/#1339065 |
| 18:30.11 | Kraps | http://translationparty.com/#1339292 fisker |
| 18:30.59 | alestane | Kraps: That's also true. |
| 18:34.14 | olafski | alestane: I just restarted the game, didn't get the error (but the options panel wasn't there either); when I /reload'ed the error was back :< |
| 18:34.54 | olafski | any chance you'll look at a little pastebin of my lua file? :$ |
| 18:34.57 | alestane | What other events are you registering? |
| 18:35.23 | olafski | PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD and ADDON_LOADED only |
| 18:35.41 | alestane | I'm not sure PEW fires on reload. |
| 18:35.48 | alestane | It might though. |
| 18:36.07 | olafski | it does |
| 18:36.14 | Cralor` | How can I enable the Glyph Frame with Talented? |
| 18:36.31 | olafski | but it shouldn't matter alestane, the error happens before that I assume |
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| 18:37.31 | alestane | *sigh* where's this code? |
| 18:38.36 | olafski | http://lua.pastey.net/120918 please don't be angry ;( the error is for line 71 |
| 18:38.50 | durcyn | Cralor`: pull out Talented_GlyphFrame into its own directory, you may've gotten a dud package |
| 18:39.44 | ScytheBlade1 | digg: http://img2.moonbuggy.org/imgstore/fast-state-trooper.jpg |
| 18:40.01 | Cralor` | durcyn: I have 3 folders AddOns\Talented, AddOns\Talented_GlyphFrame, and AddOns\Talented_SpecTabs |
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| 18:40.22 | durcyn | Cralor`: should be working then, what message are you getting? |
| 18:40.39 | Cralor` | If I click the "Glyph" button, it tells me to enable the addon. If I use a keybind from the Keybindings Menu, I get the same thing. |
| 18:41.00 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.01 | Cralor` | "Talented: ERROR: Talented_GlyphFrame is not available. You must enable the addon to be able to open the glyph frame. " |
| 18:41.25 | Cralor` | Hmm.. alright. Kinda funky |
| 18:41.46 | durcyn | just make sure it's enabled, you could log out and check but why not be lazy |
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| 18:42.48 | Cralor` | durcyn: it works. will I have to do this each time I want to access the frame? |
| 18:42.52 | durcyn | Cralor`: no |
| 18:43.08 | Cralor` | oh. so the default state was just Disabled and I had not Enabled it? |
| 18:43.24 | durcyn | no idea |
| 18:43.27 | Fisker | wasn't hardmode supposed to be guaranteed fragments? |
| 18:43.29 | Cralor` | alright well thanks |
| 18:47.00 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70r-Ca8wcVg&feature=related |
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| 18:53.12 | Fisker | lol |
| 18:53.16 | Fisker | our tank has 80k hp for some reason |
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| 18:53.43 | olafski | tenacity! |
| 18:53.50 | Lopeppeppy | Someone told him he needed it, so he got it. |
| 18:53.50 | Elusive | of 1! |
| 18:54.38 | Fisker | in ulduar |
| 18:54.45 | Fisker | and he doesn't take damage for some reason apparently |
| 18:55.06 | olafski | alestane: dunno if you're still here, it seems my interface options panel gets loaded before the ADDON_LOADED event :< |
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| 18:57.42 | zenzelezz | everyone knows a tank's skill is directly proportional to his hitpoint pool |
| 18:58.29 | olafski | definitely |
| 18:59.14 | Kaso| | the thing i love is tanks that stack stam in order to pass the retard pug "good tank" test, and end up with no mitigation and taking 1/2 hp hits every 2 seconds |
| 18:59.33 | Dashkal | ~api CancelUnitBuff |
| 18:59.34 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CancelUnitBuff |
| 19:00.13 | Dashkal | Lovely little bug. Recruit sticks to you if you fly over WG during a battle |
| 19:01.00 | A-KO | Kaso: Unfortunately most people don't know how to play the game so they look at HP as the primary and sole indicator of whether the tank is good or not |
| 19:01.13 | alestane | olafski: Do you create and register it in the XML, or in an OnLoad? Those fire when they're processed...ADDON_LOADED just tells you that your saved variables are loaded. |
| 19:01.24 | A-KO | and that's the general rule of thumb for most tanks--stack HP and ignore mitigation :P |
| 19:01.59 | olafski | alestane: I copied most of this from FlightMap.. the options frame is in xml, this ToggleNamesOptionsFrame_OnLoad method is called from the xml file as well |
| 19:02.47 | olafski | alestane: I'm trying to figure out why it works for flightmap but not for my addon =( |
| 19:03.39 | A-KO | because copypasta is bad :P |
| 19:04.21 | olafski | I know a-ko, but I tried to be careful.. didn't really find a resource that tells me step by step how to make my own options panel |
| 19:05.36 | alestane | from a first pass, I'd say you want to change line 71 to read |
| 19:05.36 | alestane | default = TOGGLENAMES_DEFAULT_OPTS[option.option] |
| 19:06.37 | olafski | that probably works alestane =) once again I wonder why it works for flightmap. Also, won't that always set it to the default rather than to what a user has selected (which should be saved in ToggleNames[option.option] |
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| 19:15.38 | Ackis | Ij ust got a parcel rapped in duct tape... |
| 19:16.58 | Lopeppeppy | Neat geek toy! |
| 19:17.09 | Lopeppeppy | Mine are stuck in Phoenix still. For 2 days, they rot in Phoenix! |
| 19:17.33 | Ackis | I traded some guy around $400 worth of product lol trust == good eh? |
| 19:18.49 | alestane | Oh I see, you assign another name to point to that table. |
| 19:19.01 | alestane | What parcel? |
| 19:19.42 | alestane | I don't really see *why* you assign that name to it though. |
| 19:19.47 | Ackis | the stuff the guy I'm trading with sent me... WoW TCG Playmat, a rare mini and about 100 cards :) |
| 19:21.57 | olafski | alestane: because in my toc I've said that ToggleNames is a saved variable.. it should also hold the "real" preferences, not the defaults |
| 19:22.40 | alestane | So you probably don't want to change that line after all. |
| 19:22.45 | alestane | At least, not to that. |
| 19:23.01 | olafski | indeed, but I can't figure out how to get those saved variables before this frame is created |
| 19:24.04 | olafski | but heck, even if I just change it to 'false' I get some new weird error :< bad argument #1 to '?' ?? unless '?' is actually a method I have no idea how to debug that |
| 19:25.48 | alestane | It's normal that your OnLoad code is called before ADDON_LOADED fires. |
| 19:28.19 | olafski | so how come this works for flightmap? =( apparently it doesn't happen for them |
| 19:28.30 | alestane | However, in that line you're trying to set the default, not the actual value, which should be saved under a different field, ToggleNames["always_show_guild"] or similar, so I think that you do indeed want to change that line as I described before. |
| 19:28.42 | alestane | I couldn't tell you without looking at flightmap's code. |
| 19:29.08 | olafski | hm. alright I'll change it to the default then |
| 19:29.13 | olafski | then I can start debugging the next error ;p |
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| 19:38.20 | Cloudwolf | olafski whatcha makin? |
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| 19:41.07 | olafski | cloudwolf: an addon that automatically hides guild names / player titles based on certain conditions;) |
| 19:41.33 | Cloudwolf | so you only see like the character and their flat out regualr name? |
| 19:42.42 | olafski | yes |
| 19:42.50 | olafski | I used to always do that manually when I was doing dungeons/raids |
| 19:42.53 | olafski | figured I'd automate it ;p |
| 19:43.21 | olafski | .. and then I got too ambitious :P |
| 19:43.48 | Cloudwolf | lol what fucnitonality did you try to add that broke it? |
| 19:43.53 | olafski | a config panel :) |
| 19:44.22 | Cloudwolf | ugh at config panels all ive figures out is buttons input boxes and frames for that kinda stuff lol |
| 19:44.24 | olafski | I have 6 booleans I want checkboxes for |
| 19:44.39 | olafski | and I want them in blizzards addon options panel ;) |
| 19:44.57 | Cloudwolf | never dealth with the blizzards addon panel |
| 19:45.01 | Cloudwolf | and i tried check boxes once |
| 19:45.04 | Cloudwolf | didn't work out so well... |
| 19:45.13 | Cloudwolf | i got frsutrated and just went to buttons |
| 19:45.31 | olafski | :) |
| 19:45.45 | olafski | I made a config for my old addon like 4 years ago |
| 19:45.58 | olafski | but I guess so much has changed that it doesn't help me much |
| 19:46.05 | Cloudwolf | hehe |
| 19:46.08 | Cloudwolf | whats your old addon? |
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| 19:46.52 | olafski | I made two addons years ago, one which played UT sounds for pvp (kill streaks and multikill), and one which filtered the then just-introduced LFG channel for certain words |
| 19:47.09 | olafski | this week I made one to shorten some of my macros and now I'm working on this one :P |
| 19:47.29 | Cloudwolf | the 2 addons i have made were reqeusts by some people |
| 19:47.46 | Cloudwolf | one involves catching people swearing in guild chat |
| 19:47.58 | Cloudwolf | sends a warning message a default one or a user made one with a number of how many times they have been warned |
| 19:48.06 | Cloudwolf | and you can use a default databse or make your own database for it |
| 19:48.16 | olafski | nice:) |
| 19:48.24 | Cloudwolf | another one just compacts the stats frame |
| 19:48.32 | Cloudwolf | removes al the default character stuff besides the |
| 19:48.42 | Cloudwolf | iventory slots |
| 19:49.04 | olafski | maybe I should just try to make this thing on my own instead of ripping code from another addon |
| 19:49.07 | Cloudwolf | removes the 3d picture the resistance fram and the 2 dropdowns witht he stuff and shows all your stats at once as flat values no tooltips tho if you scroll over it |
| 19:49.09 | olafski | as I clearly have no clue how they are doing things |
| 19:51.33 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes it's much easier to start from scratch. *nod* |
| 19:52.52 | Cloudwolf | well that is one of hte worst dailies ever... |
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| 19:55.05 | olafski | which one? |
| 19:55.17 | Cloudwolf | spear of hordir |
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| 19:57.57 | Lopeppeppy | *snark* |
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| 19:59.51 | zenzelezz | snarks, now those were one of the most fun weapons in HL |
| 20:00.40 | NightHawkTheSan1 | >.> hodir's spear is totally the easiest daily ever. |
| 20:00.42 | Lopeppeppy | Boojums! |
| 20:01.41 | TC-Away | this, this is not fun http://www.thunder-child.net/Misc/netdrivers.jpg |
| 20:02.22 | Thunder_Child | damn things wont even uninstall |
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| 20:06.57 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:07.09 | Thunder_Child | you would |
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| 20:17.23 | kd3 | goddamnit |
| 20:17.33 | kd3 | followed a link to tvtropes a few hours ago |
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| 20:17.45 | kd3 | drags himself away from the computer |
| 20:17.48 | NightHawkTheSan1 | and you just now stopped browsing it |
| 20:20.45 | Lopeppeppy | Poor kd3. *hug* |
| 20:21.48 | Kraps | what is that site supposed to be? |
| 20:22.03 | Kraps | http://translationparty.com/#1347311 |
| 20:23.33 | Lopeppeppy | http://translationparty.com/#1347464 |
| 20:24.24 | Yssaril | http://translationparty.com/#1347501 |
| 20:24.31 | Kraps | huh? http://translationparty.com/#1347524 |
| 20:24.45 | Kraps | jinx |
| 20:24.51 | Yssaril | lol |
| 20:25.06 | Kraps | http://translationparty.com/#1347543 |
| 20:25.27 | Squeese | does a frame get UIParent as parent frame when called ClearAllPoints () ? |
| 20:25.32 | Yssaril | kraps the site translates an inglish phrase back and forth between enlish and japanese till the same thing occures twice in a row or till it times out |
| 20:25.53 | Kraps | Yssaril: nah i meant tvtropes |
| 20:26.01 | Yssaril | ahhh |
| 20:26.01 | Lopeppeppy | How polite. http://translationparty.com/#1347630 |
| 20:26.48 | Yssaril | rofl http://translationparty.com/#1347673 |
| 20:26.51 | alestane | Squeese: No. |
| 20:27.33 | alestane | Its parent remains its parent. BUt with no anchor points, it has no area and can't be drawn. |
| 20:28.41 | End | it keeps its old position until new points are given, I thought |
| 20:28.53 | Kraps | scalpel, sponge http://translationparty.com/#1347864 |
| 20:31.15 | alestane | In any case, :ClearAllPoints() won't change its parentage. |
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| 20:32.20 | olafski | by the way, does anyone know the reason why wow (and other games) use lua as their scripting language and not say.. ruby? |
| 20:32.40 | End | lua is small and easy to embed |
| 20:33.10 | End | and at this point, I'd even say lua has gotten a reputation for being embedded for scripting in games |
| 20:33.21 | foxlit | Oh great. |
| 20:33.29 | foxlit | They fixed the wrong part of the AH UI. |
| 20:33.46 | NightHawkTheSan1 | embedding ruby for something like a ui kind of makes my brain hurt |
| 20:33.50 | olafski | yeah it has End, and I guess wow has been a big factor in that ;) |
| 20:34.10 | NightHawkTheSan1 | lua was popular for embedding well before wow. |
| 20:34.15 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19109958693&sid=1 |
| 20:34.53 | olafski | hmkay |
| 20:36.27 | olafski | lol kraps |
| 20:39.37 | Sesshu|off | horde wins.. |
| 20:41.08 | foxlit | Hm, I should write something to shorten player/mob names. |
| 20:44.37 | Cloudwolf | the name is wolf of the tundra its been shortened to wot! |
| 20:44.51 | olafski | :O |
| 20:45.04 | olafski | cloudwolf: figured it all out :) in case you're interested in the addon I will be publishing it as soon as I've tested :P |
| 20:45.18 | Cloudwolf | you make the checkboxes work? |
| 20:45.23 | theorbtwo | Gaaaaah! |
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| 20:46.02 | theorbtwo | I stuck my activation code for Burning Crusade into the web form, but have not yet installed it. |
| 20:46.22 | theorbtwo | Upon login, it helpfully informs me of that, and allows me to "return to login" or "exit". |
| 20:46.35 | theorbtwo | There's no "I promise not to go to the Outland" button... |
| 20:47.08 | olafski | indeed :< |
| 20:47.19 | Torhal | tekkub: http://smoont.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/a290_v7.jpg |
| 20:47.32 | tekkub | ^^ |
| 20:47.41 | tekkub | arapently there's a thrid icon too |
| 20:47.41 | Cloudwolf | i wish it worked like that |
| 20:47.44 | Sesshu | http://translationparty.com/#1349309 |
| 20:47.45 | tekkub | "enjoy bacon" |
| 20:48.06 | tekkub | http://www.methamp.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/enjoy_bacon.jpg |
| 20:48.11 | Torhal | http://smoont.com/geek-graffiti/ |
| 20:48.25 | Torhal | tekkub: Time to update your avatar. |
| 20:48.33 | theorbtwo | Anybody know a workaround? |
| 20:48.33 | theorbtwo | (Other then just installing it.) |
| 20:48.40 | olafski | cloudwolf: yeah, I ended up getting "help" from atlas rather than flightmap |
| 20:48.47 | Cloudwolf | heh |
| 20:48.51 | olafski | they just put the checkboxes in the xml file rather than having lua generate them |
| 20:48.57 | olafski | much simpler, at least I understand this :) |
| 20:49.02 | Kraps | Sesshu: we get it, your house is sunny, warm and dry |
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| 20:49.11 | olafski | just have to copy/paste 4 more checkboxes to get the rest of the options done :) |
| 20:49.28 | Torhal | theorbtwo: So you activated BC and haven't installed it. Unless you plan on logging in to a toon in Outland or Silvermoon, there shouldn't be an issue. |
| 20:49.50 | theorbtwo | Torhal: I agree. There *shouldn't*. Sadly, there is. |
| 20:49.57 | Torhal | That's quite evil. |
| 20:50.06 | Torhal | Install. |
| 20:51.14 | theorbtwo | Torhal: Yeah, my girlfriend is in the process of finding the 5gb of space needed. |
| 20:51.33 | Torhal | Ugh |
| 20:51.48 | Torhal | Tell her not to look in your porn folders. |
| 20:52.04 | theorbtwo | Torhal: Those are on a different drive. ;) |
| 20:52.15 | Torhal | Aha |
| 20:53.17 | olafski | on the fileserver of course! |
| 20:55.16 | Torhal | I use The Inetrnet as my file server. It's worked quite well, thusfar. |
| 20:55.35 | Torhal | s/Inetrnet/Internet/ |
| 20:55.38 | theorbtwo | olafski: Exactly. |
| 20:55.41 | Torhal | My typing is fail, though. |
| 20:56.52 | foxlit | Is there some good way to tell a font string I don't want it to wrap? |
| 20:58.28 | Torhal | Set its width to be larger than the frame it's in? |
| 20:58.31 | Torhal | It will truncate at that point, though |
| 20:58.36 | theorbtwo | foxlit: I recommend speaking loudly and slowly, threatening to harm it using dull and rusty instruments. |
| 20:59.18 | foxlit | This warrants a screenshot |
| 20:59.21 | olafski | internet as file server.. hmm |
| 20:59.22 | olafski | interesting :P |
| 20:59.39 | olafski | I just use a file server |
| 20:59.47 | foxlit | Also my keyboard seems to randomly ignore the print screen key |
| 20:59.49 | olafski | has the added benefit that my xbox can stream stuff from it too =) |
| 21:00.03 | theorbtwo | mostly uses the internet as my porn folder too, but sometimes saves stuff. |
| 21:00.04 | olafski | foxlit: mine too, that's why I always hit prtscrn at least 5 times if I want a screenshot |
| 21:00.19 | theorbtwo | (Mostly when I want to write a scraper instead of slogging through the ads.) |
| 21:00.35 | theorbtwo | Oh, and my xbox can stream stuff off of my hard drive just fine. |
| 21:00.54 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/box/wrap.png |
| 21:01.21 | Torhal | Oh! Yo don't want it to truncate...yo wanmt it to wrap? |
| 21:01.34 | foxlit | I don't mind it truncating |
| 21:01.43 | foxlit | I don't want it to pretend it's wrapped for the anchor point |
| 21:02.12 | foxlit | It's supposed to be anchored within the green bar |
| 21:02.49 | foxlit | Somewhat like http://www.go-hero.net/box/dvg-wrap.png |
| 21:02.53 | Torhal | Even truncated, the dots would overlap the percentage. What is _that_ anchored to? |
| 21:03.15 | olafski | theorbtwo: yeah mine too, my fileserver is just another pc.. which is always on, my gaming/work pc isn't ;) |
| 21:03.53 | foxlit | The percentage is just RIGHT |
| 21:03.56 | foxlit | The name is just LEFT |
| 21:03.56 | theorbtwo | olafski: Well, all of my PCs are always on, but I do actually have a dedicated fileserver now. It's a little dlink box, quite handy. |
| 21:04.15 | Torhal | Hmm. |
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| 21:04.29 | Torhal | And if the name is shorter it positions to the LEFT... |
| 21:04.40 | Torhal | Did you try anchoring its top? |
| 21:04.46 | foxlit | I could do that. |
| 21:05.05 | foxlit | But the behavior of truncating for the display, but pretending you wrapped for the anchoring is troublesome |
| 21:06.21 | foxlit | Giving it a height helped |
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| 21:11.18 | foxlit | function UnitName() return "Stegosaur"; end yields hilarious results. |
| 21:11.43 | foxlit | By the looks of it, I've also completely borked Grid. |
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| 21:15.03 | Shirik__ | Microsoft never ceases to impress me |
| 21:15.13 | foxlit | http://estrip.org/elmwood/users/zobar/images/0308/LetsGoExploring0303.gif << I finished the (three) book(s). |
| 21:15.53 | Shirik__ | They modified C++ to conform to .NET |
| 21:16.03 | Shirik__ | they added two new keywords which modify classes, "ref" and "sealed" |
| 21:16.18 | Shirik__ | For some reason they felt they should go in different places: public ref class Port sealed |
| 21:16.28 | Shirik__ | but for some reason, in C#, they didn't: public sealed class Port |
| 21:16.40 | Shirik__ | Do people make new languages just to be different? |
| 21:17.23 | olafski | aww foxlit I figured I'd try that unitname thing but my wow crashed ;p |
| 21:20.03 | foxlit | Whee, I have a name+race+class+level twin |
| 21:20.27 | foxlit | In a different battlegroup. There goes my chance of ever meeting him. |
| 21:21.14 | olafski | that'd be funny :P |
| 21:22.33 | olafski | can I even override UnitName? :( |
| 21:22.45 | olafski | I want everybody to be named their_name .. "ski" |
| 21:23.05 | Dagmar | You don't have to override it |
| 21:23.20 | foxlit | It's possible to achieve that |
| 21:23.38 | foxlit | But replacing UnitName is probably not the best way to do it. |
| 21:23.49 | Dagmar | Replace the format string in the template used for output |
| 21:24.05 | Dagmar | %a to %sski |
| 21:24.08 | Tuller | hurray for zune hd newsish |
| 21:24.10 | foxlit | far from everything uses that. |
| 21:24.11 | Dagmar | er %s on both counts |
| 21:24.56 | olafski | mkay :P |
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| 21:28.31 | Cloudwolf | lua> local stringg="bla bla bla 1 2 3" string.match(%s,stringg) |
| 21:28.31 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '%' |
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| 21:28.45 | Cloudwolf | lua> local stringg="bla bla bla 1 2 3" string.match(s%,stringg) |
| 21:28.45 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near ',' |
| 21:28.47 | Cloudwolf | meh |
| 21:28.57 | Cloudwolf | lua> local stringg="bla bla bla 1 2 3" string.match("%s",stringg) |
| 21:28.57 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: No output |
| 21:29.13 | Cloudwolf | !api string.match |
| 21:29.13 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'string.match' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.match |
| 21:29.34 | Cloudwolf | ah string then pattern doy... |
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| 21:32.27 | foxlit | Ygramul <Southern Orcale> |
| 21:32.30 | foxlit | Hey, awesome. |
| 21:33.47 | foxlit | [although, technically, Ygramul <The Many> would make even more sense.] |
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| 21:41.34 | kd3 | wtfs at /. |
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| 21:45.01 | Shirik__ | wtfs at !# |
| 21:45.43 | Shirik__ | I would make a site called bangsharp, but it just doesn't sound as cool as slashdot |
| 21:48.27 | Adys | Im getting the feeling "sharpbang" already exists |
| 21:48.34 | Adys | without feeling like double checking |
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| 21:49.35 | Dagmar | "she-bang" |
| 21:49.42 | Dagmar | #!/bin/bash |
| 21:50.20 | Shirik__ | well yes |
| 21:50.21 | Shirik__ | but |
| 21:50.32 | Shirik__ | I took /. to be a backwards ./ |
| 21:50.40 | Shirik__ | so !# |
| 21:50.48 | Dagmar | No, /. actually means / |
| 21:50.55 | Shirik__ | well yes |
| 21:50.58 | Shirik__ | but why would you put the . |
| 21:51.15 | Dagmar | To be explicit, because / just isn't clear for some people |
| 21:51.27 | Shirik__ | in any case |
| 21:51.38 | Shirik__ | wtf @ zero-day in Linux 2.4/2.6 |
| 21:51.44 | Dagmar | ...at least that's what I understood it to be ages ago when the site still had all right angles |
| 21:52.00 | Dagmar | Shirik: Yes,, and you get the hyperbolic verbiage for free |
| 21:52.09 | Shirik__ | "All Linux 2.4/2.6 versions since May 2001 are believed to be affected." |
| 21:52.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik__: I just dropped a linode support ticket, asking for an ETA on the fixed kernels |
| 21:52.15 | Dagmar | Because, you know, it's really super trivial to write to the first page of memory |
| 21:52.16 | Dagmar | lol |
| 21:52.21 | Shirik__ | yeah |
| 21:52.24 | Shirik__ | that's the part that confused me |
| 21:52.31 | Shirik__ | I saw that part and I was like ... wait, what? |
| 21:52.39 | Shirik__ | but I don't do enough linux development to really know the details behind that |
| 21:52.39 | Dagmar | It might be useful for privledge escalation |
| 21:52.58 | Dagmar | ...but mainly it's another one of those things where, if you can actually do it, you're halfway to root or you've got root already |
| 21:53.13 | Dagmar | There's nothing "trivial" about that exploit |
| 21:53.26 | Shirik__ | still, it smells of hack to me |
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| 21:53.52 | Shirik__ | to me, the way that manifested itself was "someone saw null pointers being dereferenced and decided to add a check in location X" |
| 21:54.02 | Shirik__ | (instead of finding out why they're null in the first place) |
| 21:54.07 | Dagmar | Probably so |
| 21:54.59 | Cide | linux vulnerability? UNPOSSIBLE |
| 21:55.08 | Cide | let this mark the day that linux people stop bitching about windows' security |
| 21:55.25 | kd3 | ahahaha |
| 21:55.35 | Shirik__ | Cide, I have to side with Dagmar on this one |
| 21:55.39 | A-KO | windows security has gotten very nice IMO |
| 21:55.47 | Shirik__ | if you are able to actually exploit this vulnerability, there was already a problem with your computer to begin with |
| 21:55.48 | End | linux having vulnerabilities doesn't make other operating systems having vulnerabilities okay |
| 21:55.50 | A-KO | and any linux install in the hands of someone who doesn't know how to use it = insecure |
| 21:56.19 | Cide | Shirik__: /shrug |
| 21:56.22 | Cide | I'm just saying |
| 21:56.24 | End | although, if anyone is gonna bitch about vulnerabilities, they should probably bitch about flash vulnerabilities ;-p |
| 21:56.31 | Shirik__ | but I agree with you regarding the fanboyism |
| 21:56.58 | End | actually, the ";-p" probably shouldn't be there, since it's no joke...it's not funny :( |
| 21:57.45 | Cide | I'm not saying either os is secure or trying to judge either os' security |
| 21:58.13 | Shirik__ | My OS has zero vulnerabilities |
| 21:58.22 | Shirik__ | Never has anyone released an exploit against it |
| 21:58.22 | Cide | but it'll be nice to point at recent stuff and say "hey kettle, how's that black pot doing for you?" |
| 21:58.44 | Cloudwolf | what is it your own custom os taht you made from scratch? :P |
| 21:58.52 | Shirik__ | yup |
| 21:59.02 | Cloudwolf | "the shirik os of awsomenss with a touch of class" |
| 21:59.06 | Cide | he hasn't compiled it yet |
| 21:59.11 | Shirik__ | It doesn't compile |
| 21:59.13 | Shirik__ | it's in assembly |
| 21:59.13 | Cide | in fact it doesn't compile |
| 21:59.15 | Cide | I KNEW IT |
| 21:59.16 | End | I dunno, I think bitching about windows was warranted, once upon a time |
| 21:59.18 | foxlit | Shirik: if you have perfect security, I'm inclined to think you have zero usability :) |
| 21:59.21 | Cide | back in a few |
| 21:59.23 | End | windows security I mean |
| 21:59.27 | Shirik__ | foxlit: Define "zero usability" |
| 21:59.29 | Shirik__ | it does SOMETHING |
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| 21:59.37 | foxlit | Does it do what I want it to do? |
| 21:59.38 | Shirik__ | It lets you push the arrow keys |
| 21:59.49 | Shirik__ | and display the entire contents of memory |
| 21:59.56 | Shirik__ | and that's all it does :) |
| 22:00.04 | Cloudwolf | whos memeory its memory my memory the other guys memory? |
| 22:00.12 | Cloudwolf | :P |
| 22:00.14 | foxlit | Perhaps s/usability/functionality/ is in order. |
| 22:00.15 | Shirik__ | the memory of the computer it's running on :P |
| 22:00.32 | Cloudwolf | what is it coded in shirik? |
| 22:00.38 | Shirik__ | IA32 assembly |
| 22:00.47 | Shirik__ | it doesn't even use protected mode :P |
| 22:00.50 | Shirik__ | it's probably compatible with a 286 |
| 22:01.11 | Shirik__ | wait was 286 16-bit or 32-bit? |
| 22:01.32 | Shirik__ | well it runs on a 32-bit processor |
| 22:02.02 | foxlit | Letting people push arrow keys must have steep hardware requirements. |
| 22:02.13 | Shirik__ | oh yes |
| 22:02.16 | Shirik__ | you have to have a keyboard |
| 22:02.38 | Shirik__ | my favorite part is when you get to the video memory |
| 22:02.47 | Shirik__ | and it goes nuts because it queries the video memory, then updates the display |
| 22:02.50 | Shirik__ | which changes the video memory |
| 22:02.56 | Shirik__ | so it keeps changing |
| 22:04.55 | foxlit | CartoonNetwork has an MMO. |
| 22:05.03 | Shirik__ | toontown? |
| 22:05.12 | Shirik__ | is it that flash-based one? |
| 22:05.15 | foxlit | "fusionfall" |
| 22:05.23 | Shirik__ | oh yeah |
| 22:05.25 | Shirik__ | that |
| 22:05.39 | Shirik__ | yeah they've had it for at least a year I think |
| 22:05.42 | Shirik__ | 'I remember seeing it on tv |
| 22:05.47 | Shirik__ | wondered what it was |
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| 22:06.02 | Shirik__ | because they just kept saying "fusion fall" without actually saying what it was |
| 22:06.04 | Shirik__ | and I was like "wtf?" |
| 22:06.19 | nicoli_s | its so weird |
| 22:06.27 | nicoli_s | it has all these grown up versions of cartoon network chars |
| 22:07.29 | foxlit | It's not entirely free either. |
| 22:11.39 | Cloudwolf | it was free for like |
| 22:11.42 | Cloudwolf | i dont know 3 weeks |
| 22:11.46 | Cloudwolf | and then they made it pay to play |
| 22:12.15 | Cloudwolf | i tried it it sucks... |
| 22:12.19 | foxlit | It's still free, but they want subscription $$$ for the vast majority of the content. |
| 22:12.41 | foxlit | I'm not surprised -- it's just odd that TV channels now manufacture online games. |
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| 22:12.58 | Cloudwolf | any one seen aion? |
| 22:13.09 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 22:13.09 | Cloudwolf | or was it aeon what ever... |
| 22:13.27 | nicoli_s | made the biggest aion db site |
| 22:13.32 | nicoli_s | i made* |
| 22:13.48 | foxlit | Does aion need a db site? |
| 22:13.48 | Cloudwolf | it looks good i watch a live broadcast through xfire of someone palying it |
| 22:13.59 | Cloudwolf | my only comment on it was it needs more talking animatoins |
| 22:14.06 | Cloudwolf | or needs a rest inbetween the animations |
| 22:14.32 | Cloudwolf | its like oh look i just finished playing my talk animation lets play it again less than 1nd after it ended (and when imean talk animation i mean like a lot of arm movements) |
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| 22:22.21 | nicoli_s | foxlit: yes |
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| 22:23.05 | foxlit | Horrendous game design flaws that only a website can remedy? |
| 22:23.27 | nicoli_s | no, just that pretty much all mmos with quests could benefit from a db site |
| 22:23.37 | nicoli_s | or any game where you want to search for items, do comparisons, etcv |
| 22:24.32 | nicoli_s | hell we are getting 100k visitors a month with the game only playable like 3 days every 2 weeks, so id say theres def a market for a DB site :) |
| 22:24.33 | foxlit | There's a slight difference between "need" and "benefit from", of course. |
| 22:25.08 | nicoli_s | yes but you could argue no game "needs" a db site |
| 22:25.38 | foxlit | There are degrees of wondering around blindly I'm prepared to accept :) |
| 22:27.27 | foxlit | But it's mainly a question of whether their quest text is so opaque you have to go look up directions elsewhere. |
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| 22:28.45 | nicoli_s | well databases are for more than just quest helpers |
| 22:29.31 | foxlit | That they are. I am, however, more interested in whether the game is good :) |
| 22:31.14 | nicoli_s | the game is pretty good imho |
| 22:32.03 | nicoli_s | its not going to be a "wow killer" but its fun, has good graphics, has good items, the spells could be more interesting, but theres some really cool quest chains with cinematics early on, the flying mechanic is pretty cool, and it has some really interesting endgame |
| 22:32.18 | Kraps | which game? |
| 22:32.21 | nicoli_s | aion |
| 22:33.01 | NeoTron | I'm going to bet my money on Champions Online... but trying Aion over the weekend until Champions beta next week |
| 22:33.54 | nicoli_s | i heard champions is not that great |
| 22:34.10 | nicoli_s | have two people here at work who have played it and werent impressed much |
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| 22:45.09 | Shirik__ | I've heard great things about it |
| 22:45.22 | Shirik__ | however, I also hang around a community that has played korean grind games a lot together |
| 22:45.26 | cog|work | Shirik__: this might amuse you http://blog.cogwheel.info/2009/08/exceptional-logic.html |
| 22:45.32 | Shirik__ | so, aion fits them quite well |
| 22:47.16 | nicoli_s | i played up till like 15 and was pleased with the levelling curve, only grindy part was this one quest where you had to kill these mobs and everyone was camped out trying to get them right as they spawned |
| 22:48.04 | Shirik__ | cog|work: I've always felt that exceptions are for truly exceptional situations |
| 22:49.18 | foxlit | Can't that function just return null? |
| 22:50.13 | cog|work | foxlit: it's a constructor not a function |
| 22:50.31 | cog|work | well |
| 22:50.31 | foxlit | wru, new |
| 22:50.34 | cog|work | you know what i mean |
| 22:50.57 | foxlit | is blissfully unaware of C# syntax or .net libraries. |
| 22:52.36 | Cide | it seems like it tests the wrong thing, cog|work |
| 22:52.50 | Cide | a sounder approach would be to try to launch it and have it raise an exception if already launched |
| 22:52.55 | Cide | (but that's just me) |
| 22:53.20 | cog|work | Cide: yeah, that would be a bit better, but it still splits the logic unnecessarily |
| 22:54.46 | Cide | cog|work: /me shrugs |
| 22:54.56 | Cide | I didn't like it at first either |
| 22:55.17 | Cide | but I've grown used to it with python |
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| 22:55.38 | Cide | it's nice in one way because it alerts you of potential errors that would otherwise go by unnoticed |
| 22:55.40 | Cide | s/errors/bugs/ |
| 22:55.54 | Cide | since it fails loudly rather than silently if you don't handle it well |
| 22:56.53 | Cloudwolf | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVLOVpwXYGY |
| 23:03.54 | Kraps | i'm 12 and whats this? |
| 23:05.40 | foxlit | googletechtalks videos badly need a podcast format :/ |
| 23:08.21 | olafski | cloudwolf: addon done :-) just waiting for the curseforge people to accept it :D |
| 23:09.14 | foxlit | Whee, accent + "You know" + "like" |
| 23:09.21 | foxlit | + "I mean" |
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| 23:27.01 | olafski | also, when I search for the previous addon I submitted (been up for about 3 days now), it's not found on curse.com.. does indexing take this long or can't I search for addon names? |
| 23:29.56 | ScytheBlade1 | man, where is peppy when the good pictures come around. http://imgur.com/E9ppQ.jpg |
| 23:30.14 | olafski | oh.. that went to the wrong channel ;p |
| 23:30.49 | Lunessa | SBO - That's a keeper. |
| 23:32.08 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://kuvaton.com/bshit/ruining-childrens-songs-one-at-a-time.png |
| 23:32.58 | Lunessa | And now I go home. |
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| 23:36.37 | bleeter | arghagrhargharg realm change bug |
| 23:38.15 | mikma | yeah <3 lubbing it |
| 23:38.34 | daev` | lol, that's awesome mikma |
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| 23:44.32 | Cide | cog|away: good read re: god |
| 23:48.01 | Aps|MR | Does anyone know if its possible to change the fonts in Chinchila for the coords and the location? also, is it possible to change the icons borders? |
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