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| 00:02.52 | Cloudwolf | is it jsut me or any cave thats not an instance is the exact same layout? |
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| 00:04.02 | Slafsinaggghg | there are a few cave layouts though |
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| 00:11.20 | Cloudwolf | lol ogre and not ogre lay out |
| 00:11.40 | Cloudwolf | oh and gnoll.... |
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| 00:17.25 | Slafsinaggghg | ragefire chasm layout, hillsbrad yeti layout, generic beast matriarch layout, level 1 orc/troll layout |
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| 00:19.07 | A-KO | Is it just me or do the expansion zones just not have that sense of awesomeness that the original zones had? Maybe it's just nostalgia :P |
| 00:19.20 | Cide- | just you |
| 00:19.23 | Cide- | it's the other way around |
| 00:20.00 | Corrodias | barrens was not "awesome", just too fucking big. |
| 00:20.03 | Slafsinaggghg | the old zones are so piss in general |
| 00:20.10 | A-KO | see I still don't like the disconnect between the zones though, wish they would have kept that from the original........ |
| 00:20.17 | NightHawkTheSan1 | disturbing: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/6562918.html |
| 00:20.17 | Slafsinaggghg | compare barrens to howling fjord |
| 00:20.32 | Corrodias | stranglethorn vale was cute, i remember it fondly, but there was nothing particularly memorable about it besides "jungle" |
| 00:20.34 | A-KO | like....Dark shore -> Ashenvale -> Felwood all "fit" together. |
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| 00:20.51 | Corrodias | yes, it was a big forest |
| 00:21.03 | A-KO | you don't see that in outlands or northrend :P |
| 00:21.11 | Slafsinaggghg | there's a reason you don't see that |
| 00:21.13 | A-KO | each zone is "unique" |
| 00:21.16 | Slafsinaggghg | it sucked |
| 00:21.18 | A-KO | well, development time, 1.... |
| 00:21.20 | A-KO | but I liked it |
| 00:21.26 | A-KO | it made the world feel more.....like a world... |
| 00:21.36 | Corrodias | natural? yeah, i suppose |
| 00:21.44 | A-KO | there ya go |
| 00:21.56 | Corrodias | then you've got thousand needles, its salt flats, the barrens, desolace... |
| 00:21.57 | A-KO | Northrend does a better job than Outlands does though |
| 00:22.06 | Corrodias | the horde had a long, flat, boring road. |
| 00:22.09 | Slafsinaggghg | indeed, outland is a train wreck |
| 00:22.19 | Slafsinaggghg | but it's also a shattered world, so who knows, lorelol |
| 00:22.21 | Hirsute | liked Outland |
| 00:22.26 | A-KO | I coulnd't stand it |
| 00:22.38 | Corrodias | despite being unnatural, the distinct areas were, at least, interestingly different. |
| 00:22.38 | Hirsute | I liked it a *lot* more than I like Northrend. |
| 00:22.41 | A-KO | honestly though, my fav zone is probably Grizzly Hills in Northrend |
| 00:22.54 | Corrodias | except hellfire penninsula. which was more flat land. and zangarmarsh, which was that plus mushrooms... |
| 00:22.57 | A-KO | whoever put that together did a damn good job |
| 00:23.18 | Hirsute | Heh. See, I'm really not fond of Grizzly Hills. |
| 00:23.24 | Hirsute | To each his own, I suppose. |
| 00:23.37 | A-KO | I think it is the zone that is the most unified and least dreadful to be honest. |
| 00:23.59 | A-KO | Dragonblight has Wyrmrest, but the whole damn thing is nothing but ice and snow....I suppose that's fine for Northrend and all...you know..... |
| 00:24.00 | Hirsute | On another note entirely... I need some necromancer ascii art. |
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| 00:27.56 | Shirik|Ghost | rawr |
| 00:28.02 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 00:28.13 | Shirik | huggles Gryphon |
| 00:28.17 | Gryphon | huggles Shirik |
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| 00:44.50 | Shirik | Photoshop is so wierd |
| 00:45.00 | Shirik | why do you use "unsharp mask" to sharpen a picture? |
| 00:46.32 | Sesshu | bec it is a double negative |
| 00:46.34 | Sesshu | xD |
| 00:48.37 | Sesshu | ¤ Start of clonescan in #wowuidev ¤ |
| 00:48.39 | Sesshu | Clones Found: Kody- - netxx are on *!*@dsl092-049-237.sfo4.dsl.speakeasy.net |
| 00:48.39 | Sesshu | Clones Found: batbot - batrick are on *!*@batbytes.com |
| 00:48.41 | Sesshu | End of clonescan in #wowuidev Completed in: 4.063 second s |
| 00:48.43 | Sesshu | hm |
| 00:48.47 | Sesshu | wrong key |
| 00:48.51 | Sesshu | xD |
| 00:48.57 | Sesshu | sry |
| 00:49.18 | Slafsinaggghg | Shirik_: "Unsharp masks are not new to photography. They were traditionally performed with film by utilizing a softer, slightly out of focus image (which would act as the unsharp mask). The positive of the unsharp mask was then sandwiched with the negative of the original image and made into a print. This was used more to enhance local contrast than small-scale detail." |
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| 00:50.35 | Hirsute | Anyone know anything whose vendor price changed with 3.2? |
| 00:52.21 | AnduinLothar | why are visualizers so entrancing? |
| 00:54.11 | AnduinLothar | ooo, nifty idea... record wow video... export sound track.... play sound track in itunes... screen capture the visualization... and then layer the visualization over the wow video with 95% alpha |
| 00:55.41 | Sesshu | and then? |
| 00:55.49 | AnduinLothar | PROFIT |
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| 00:56.06 | Sesshu | money? |
| 00:56.17 | AnduinLothar | no... awesome points |
| 00:56.21 | Sesshu | hm |
| 00:56.50 | Torhal | tekkub: Feh. |
| 00:56.54 | Seerah | what does this error mean --> TipTop-1.8.8\tiptop.lua:306: attempt to index local 'TalentQuery' (a function value) --> if the variable TalentQuery is a) a global not a local and b) a table not a function?..... |
| 00:57.09 | AnduinLothar | it means: Stop using tiptop |
| 00:57.12 | Sesshu | awesome points are allways nice to have. |
| 00:57.17 | AnduinLothar | ^^ |
| 00:57.18 | Torhal | AnduinLothar: That's her addon |
| 00:57.21 | Seerah | AL: TipTop is mine :P |
| 00:57.25 | AnduinLothar | :-D |
| 00:57.35 | Torhal | Seerah: Is it in a separate file? |
| 00:57.47 | AnduinLothar | that's different from TipTac how? |
| 00:57.49 | Seerah | no... I'm trying to add in support for LibTalentQuery |
| 00:57.59 | Seerah | ~lart AnduinLothar |
| 00:57.59 | purl | nukes AnduinLothar with a single large nuke |
| 00:58.22 | Torhal | Seerah: pastey? |
| 00:58.37 | Seerah | sec |
| 00:59.06 | AnduinLothar | hmm.... they look identical to me |
| 01:00.09 | AnduinLothar | it means you have a local function hiding a global table |
| 01:00.26 | Seerah | oooh.... I think I messed up when I was trying to figure it out before running to work............ |
| 01:00.32 | Torhal | Bwah? |
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| 01:01.29 | Cairenn | anyone else for a black russian while I'm pouring? |
| 01:02.12 | Aquavette2k1 | yea |
| 01:02.19 | Aqua | I'd love one |
| 01:02.23 | Aqua | but i can't consume alcohol |
| 01:04.13 | AnduinLothar | mail me on cair |
| 01:04.16 | AnduinLothar | one* |
| 01:04.50 | Hirsute | Aqua: Griseolfulvin? |
| 01:05.02 | Hirsute | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.16 | Aqua | unfamilar, narcoelepsy drugs don't mix with alcohol |
| 01:07.25 | Hirsute | Ah, griseofulvin is a drug usefull for some toenail fungal infections that also doesn't mix with alcohol. |
| 01:08.49 | Aqua | ah |
| 01:09.11 | Cairenn | ewww, who'd want to mix toenail fungus infection into booze? that's just nasty! |
| 01:09.49 | Cairenn | pours one for AnduinLothar |
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| 01:18.32 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ... i would totally murder a small city for something alcoholic right now. :\ |
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| 01:20.47 | Cloudwolf | is there a way to commit suicide in wow? |
| 01:20.54 | Cloudwolf | besides jumping off something realy tall |
| 01:21.06 | mikma | yes |
| 01:21.18 | mikma | use those nasty runes when you are low hp |
| 01:21.26 | mikma | "converts health to mana" |
| 01:21.37 | Cloudwolf | hmm what level does that require to use? none? |
| 01:21.39 | NightHawkTheSan1 | hellfire yourself to death |
| 01:22.01 | foxlit | There's also an awesome trinket |
| 01:22.19 | NightHawkTheSan1 | one of the quest items you get for the linkin chain will also kill you |
| 01:22.38 | Cloudwolf | well in sw |
| 01:22.44 | Cloudwolf | some gold seller used about 3 accounts |
| 01:22.50 | Cloudwolf | and spelled out g2by.com in dead bodies |
| 01:22.57 | mikma | you know |
| 01:23.14 | mikma | they floathack -> drop them from sky |
| 01:23.40 | Cloudwolf | well im impressed ive never seen this before |
| 01:23.48 | Cloudwolf | im used to just seeing trade spam |
| 01:24.45 | Cloudwolf | lol it took them 39 characters |
| 01:25.55 | foxlit | NightHawkTheSan1: unfortunately, that one is area limited. |
| 01:25.56 | mikma | yeah |
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| 01:26.16 | mikma | cloudwolf: both servers i play in have had that happen several times |
| 01:26.30 | mikma | cloudwolf: latest is all in tauren male corpses |
| 01:26.43 | Cloudwolf | this was human females heh |
| 01:26.47 | Cloudwolf | and ive never seen it before |
| 01:26.52 | NightHawkTheSan1 | foxlit: true, but it still exists |
| 01:27.01 | Cloudwolf | atleast their creative >.> |
| 01:27.05 | Cloudwolf | rather than just spamming |
| 01:27.08 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=13347 << so they nerfed it :/ |
| 01:27.28 | Cloudwolf | nerfed it? |
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| 01:27.52 | foxlit | It used to be something more than it currently is. |
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| 01:50.14 | Adys | Anyone ingame? |
| 01:50.26 | Sesshu | yes |
| 01:50.27 | Cloudwolf | im in wow |
| 01:50.29 | Cloudwolf | why |
| 01:50.36 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47735/glyph-of-indomitability/ |
| 01:50.39 | Adys | does this still exist? |
| 01:51.40 | Shirik | Anyone here use netbeans? Strange build problem: manifest.mf isn't being used anymore for one of my projects |
| 01:51.42 | Shirik | any ideaS? |
| 01:51.52 | mikma | adys: you know the person behind talent calculators? |
| 01:51.58 | Adys | yes, why? |
| 01:53.00 | mikma | adys: i have a huge problem with them hanging my tablet (javascript stops responding, tablet says 222/234 images loaded) |
| 01:53.14 | Adys | huh |
| 01:53.16 | Adys | browser? |
| 01:53.31 | mikma | firefox kickoff, "MicroB" |
| 01:53.44 | mikma | i think it identifies itself as firefox |
| 01:54.17 | mikma | i can grab you a screenshot |
| 01:54.21 | Adys | about: should give you the UA |
| 01:54.25 | Adys | yeah that'd be nice too |
| 01:57.32 | Sesshu | Adys: Glyph of Indomitability still exists. |
| 01:57.49 | Adys | the armory doesnt have it |
| 01:57.51 | Adys | *shrugs* |
| 01:57.56 | mikma | adys: MicroB |
| 01:57.58 | mikma | version 1.0.1 |
| 01:58.12 | mikma | adys: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv6l; fi-FI; rv:1.9a6pre) Gecko/20080828 Firefox/3.0a1 Tablet browser 0.3.7 RX-34+RX-44+RX-48_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7 |
| 01:59.58 | kd3 | grr |
| 02:00.08 | mikma | adys: http://mikma.reaktio.net/1.png |
| 02:00.14 | kd3 | utter hatred for the me in the past who ran XC for years |
| 02:00.20 | kd3 | curses his bum knee at 24 |
| 02:01.06 | Adys | mikma: deleting cache, rebooting comp, whatever etc doesnt solve it? |
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| 02:02.37 | mikma | adys: nope, always been like that on this handheld |
| 02:03.37 | Adys | ill report it thanks |
| 02:05.06 | mikma | adys: it alwyas does the same: loads background images, loads right sidebar, then it stops at 232/234 images and halts the risc cpu for 3-5min until javascrip error comes up |
| 02:05.46 | mikma | adys: "is running slow, press cancel to stop or ok to continue". ok hangs even more, ss is taken after i press cancel |
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| 02:06.32 | mikma | well, the other way around, cancel waits, ok stops |
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| 02:08.52 | zespri | hey what are mainstream addons for in-game script debugging nowaday? |
| 02:09.00 | mikma | adys: turning knife in your friends wound.. other sites are slow, but they work |
| 02:09.19 | mikma | zespri: Blizzard_DebugTools |
| 02:09.45 | mikma | zespri: and Spew, by tekkub. in wowi i think |
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| 02:10.51 | mikma | adys: it always stops when the first tree is filled with icons.. 0-2 icons in tree 2 and thats it |
| 02:13.48 | mikma | adys: omg omg, 3rd time k pressed cancel it loaded! ;) |
| 02:13.59 | Adys | >< |
| 02:14.09 | Adys | ill report it as i said, i cant do anything more im afraid |
| 02:15.21 | mikma | ya, but i bet he wants to know atleast some of the stuff i explained =) |
| 02:15.43 | zespri | mikma thanks |
| 02:16.21 | zespri | from what I can see bliz dbgtools consist only of three thing /dump /fstack and /etrace |
| 02:16.57 | zespri | no way to quickly define and execute a block of lua code if it doesn't feet in a single chat string |
| 02:17.06 | zespri | *fit |
| 02:18.00 | zespri | but it's a real nice thing that bliz included this, glad, I asked |
| 02:18.00 | mikma | Hack, from wowi. or wowlua ( tinypad |
| 02:18.16 | mikma | ( = / |
| 02:20.28 | Ackis | Adys: what happened to the spectral tiger vendor in 3.2? |
| 02:22.19 | mikma | they removed them |
| 02:22.33 | mikma | entering code in blizz site = BoE item |
| 02:23.06 | Ackis | you enter the code and you get the item mailed to you? |
| 02:23.17 | Ackis | or do you have to go to landro still? |
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| 02:24.39 | mikma | i guess its mailed |
| 02:25.07 | mikma | so no more of those "wts spectral tiger code 4000*" |
| 02:25.24 | mikma | *=g |
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| 02:46.25 | tekkub | someone tell my ex from like 9 years ago that I don't want to call him on the phone and listen to his drunken ramble about how he misses me |
| 02:48.34 | mikma | whats his nick? i'll /m him |
| 02:50.46 | tekkub | on AIM, he finally left me alone |
| 02:51.10 | mikma | good |
| 02:52.06 | NightHawkTheSan1 | I think aim lets you block people. :P |
| 02:52.23 | kd3 | ~ping |
| 02:52.24 | purl | ~pong |
| 02:53.57 | Shirik | tackles kd3 |
| 02:55.19 | Shirik | rofl, tekkub |
| 02:55.22 | Shirik | http://translationparty.com/tp/#538334 |
| 02:56.36 | Shirik | I removed the "like": http://translationparty.com/tp/#538642 |
| 02:56.36 | Adys | see Shirik |
| 02:56.38 | Adys | you're getting it ! |
| 02:57.36 | tekkub | Shirik: http://translationparty.com/tp/#538828 |
| 02:57.44 | tekkub | it's true |
| 02:58.07 | Adys | I wonder how long ago this site was launched |
| 02:58.18 | Adys | it was at around 300k ids this morning |
| 02:58.31 | Adys | it nearly doubled today |
| 02:58.57 | NightHawkTheSan1 | rather amusing: http://www.madatoms.com/site/blog/batman-reference-manual |
| 03:00.21 | mikma | tekkub: imho, flawless victory. |
| 03:00.22 | tekkub | http://translationparty.com/tp/#539127 |
| 03:00.59 | kd3 | sweet! |
| 03:01.08 | kd3 | "Today, on How It's Made: Bacon" |
| 03:01.20 | Shirik | http://translationparty.com/tp/#539551 o.O |
| 03:01.44 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#539643 |
| 03:01.46 | Adys | more like it |
| 03:01.55 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:01.57 | tekkub | http://translationparty.com/tp/#539647 |
| 03:01.59 | Shirik | universal language |
| 03:02.02 | Cruciformer | oh god are we not done with that yet? |
| 03:03.27 | mikma | eat a dick tracy |
| 03:03.29 | tekkub | too easy http://translationparty.com/tp/#539924 |
| 03:05.40 | Cruciformer | http://translationparty.com/tp/#540239 there ... nuff said |
| 03:05.55 | Torhal | http://translationparty.com/tp/#540350 |
| 03:08.37 | tekkub | http://translationparty.com/tp/#540845 |
| 03:08.42 | tekkub | ^ true |
| 03:09.05 | Adys | lol |
| 03:10.34 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#541167 |
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| 03:41.18 | Shirik | ccox: ping |
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| 03:51.14 | ccox | Shirik: pong |
| 03:58.08 | m^rk | if someone leaves the party during combat, does wow reassign the unit names right away or after combat? because wouldn't that cause inconsistencies with secure buttons with targets set up since they wouldn't be able to be changed during combat |
| 03:59.03 | kd3 | ahahaha... Presto reduced the updates to 2.3 M from 36 M which is a 94% savings. |
| 03:59.05 | kd3 | go presto go |
| 04:06.55 | zespri | mikma, thanks all good stuff |
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| 04:08.44 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 04:08.45 | purl | ~pong |
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| 04:13.32 | tekkub | ~ling |
| 04:17.00 | sylvanaar | god equilibrium sucks |
| 04:20.27 | Shirik | ? |
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| 04:26.25 | NeoTron | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw30140.jpg |
| 04:26.32 | NeoTron | ironic how I fix it after I stop playing >:-) |
| 04:27.20 | tem | lol I just rolled 2 100s in a row |
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| 04:59.31 | Jamash | they see me rolling 100s, they hating |
| 05:00.29 | zenzelezz | rerolling, they try to catch me riding dirty |
| 05:01.27 | sylvanaar | any of you use census+? |
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| 05:06.36 | Adys | mmoc down for anyone? |
| 05:07.56 | NeoTron | so are heroic raids not opened yet? |
| 05:11.05 | tem | you have to clear the nonheroic raid before you can do the heroic |
| 05:11.10 | tem | and since they're only doing 1 boss per week... |
| 05:12.11 | NeoTron | aha |
| 05:12.20 | NeoTron | man they are really prolonging this eh |
| 05:12.28 | ZorbaBeta | has Blizzard always been so experimental with each new raid? I haven't been raiding since late BC, but it seems like every new raid in Wrath has a new experimental gimmick they're trying out |
| 05:12.35 | NeoTron | "we didn't make any new raid content to speak of, so we're artificially trying to make it last longer" |
| 05:13.10 | NeoTron | basically for the next 5 weeks or what not, there's not going to be any raid progress worth mentioning |
| 05:13.27 | ZorbaBeta | I can sort of see the point |
| 05:13.39 | NightHawkTheSan1 | NeoTron: from that perspective, i kind of like it |
| 05:13.43 | ZorbaBeta | my guild was always feeling very second-tier because we started Ulduar and we were already playing catch-up by, like, ten bosses |
| 05:13.48 | ZorbaBeta | and, I mean, we are second-tier |
| 05:14.05 | ZorbaBeta | but right now we can feel rather smug that we're just as progressed as every other guild on the planet and it only took us, like, three hours |
| 05:14.12 | ZorbaBeta | (okay third-tier) |
| 05:15.16 | End | my guild is third tier, and there's no second tier on my server! |
| 05:15.19 | NeoTron | which removes the competetive spirit from raiding |
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| 05:15.32 | NightHawkTheSan1 | and hey, it gives me a couple weeks to decide if i want to transfer my characters and keep playing, or just quit altogether :P |
| 05:15.56 | NightHawkTheSan1 | NeoTron: eh, i'm sure there'll be the same race to firsts for the heroic content. its just delayed a little |
| 05:16.05 | NeoTron | I think raiding in LK in general is rather bad overall |
| 05:16.08 | NeoTron | I mean amount of content |
| 05:16.18 | NightHawkTheSan1 | that's relative |
| 05:16.29 | NeoTron | we basically have one full raid dungeon, a couple of single encounter instances, a small mini raid and a rehahs |
| 05:16.44 | ZorbaBeta | end, my guild is third tier, and is the faction best :( |
| 05:16.48 | NeoTron | Naxxramas should not have been. It should have been Ulduar or better yet Azjol'nerub |
| 05:16.56 | NightHawkTheSan1 | if you're putting together a guild of relatively-fresh 80's right now and getting into raiding, there's a lot of content for you to work through |
| 05:17.09 | End | ZorbaBeta: ouch |
| 05:17.16 | NeoTron | sure but it's less than BC |
| 05:17.22 | NeoTron | and the expansion has been out for.. a while |
| 05:17.23 | ZorbaBeta | we never killed Yogg and now we can't get people interested in trying |
| 05:17.24 | ZorbaBeta | never did any hard modes |
| 05:17.34 | End | well, maybe I wasn't fair to call my guild third tier then ;p |
| 05:17.41 | End | we're farther than that |
| 05:17.42 | NeoTron | don't get me wrong, I did have some fun in BC |
| 05:17.43 | End | although not by a lot |
| 05:17.46 | ZorbaBeta | we've only got one competitor, and they're in roughly the same position as us, only a week or two behind. |
| 05:17.46 | NeoTron | but raiding for the most part wasn't it |
| 05:17.50 | NightHawkTheSan1 | NeoTron: hmm.. is it though? Naxx & Ulduar is easily as much as Kara, SC, TK, yeah? |
| 05:18.08 | End | but beyond us, it's pretty much guilds with ironbound proto drakes, or one hard mode away |
| 05:18.09 | NeoTron | no matter what, I can't count Naxx as LK content |
| 05:18.20 | NeoTron | it is signifcantly lower quality |
| 05:18.27 | NeoTron | you can tell it's an old dungeon rebalanced |
| 05:18.39 | NightHawkTheSan1 | then at this point, you're arbitrarily deciding raid content to suit your own definition, and making statements from there |
| 05:18.47 | ZorbaBeta | I dunno, Naxx seems fine to me |
| 05:18.52 | NeoTron | do you think Naxx was new and fresh? |
| 05:19.04 | NeoTron | the feel of doing many of the LK 5-mans was nothing less than breathtaking |
| 05:19.09 | NightHawkTheSan1 | as someone who never did the original naxx, yes. :P |
| 05:19.10 | NeoTron | felt the same about Ulduar |
| 05:19.34 | NightHawkTheSan1 | thats not to say it wasn't easy, and didn't get a bit old rather fast. |
| 05:19.41 | ZorbaBeta | neo, it certainly was to me |
| 05:19.58 | NeoTron | I'm talking purely techicahal quality |
| 05:20.00 | ZorbaBeta | as well as, I suspect, to the vast *vast* majority of people who stepped foot in it |
| 05:20.10 | ZorbaBeta | Eh. It had interesting bosses with neat gimmicks. |
| 05:20.17 | ZorbaBeta | Maybe the wall textures weren't as high-res as they could have been, but whatever |
| 05:20.26 | NeoTron | you can't say that Ahn'kahet wasn't an amazing instance the first time you entered |
| 05:20.44 | ZorbaBeta | alright ahn'kahet was admittedly incredibly badass |
| 05:20.44 | NeoTron | they added the "fake" size to make the instnaces look a lot larger than they really are and I find that refreshing |
| 05:20.54 | ZorbaBeta | however, compare that to, say, the *other two raids* |
| 05:21.01 | ZorbaBeta | both of which were about as visually uninteresting as it came |
| 05:21.07 | NeoTron | Sarth and Malygos are single mob encounters |
| 05:21.15 | ZorbaBeta | "you're on a giant floating disc in space" and "you're in a giant pool of lava" |
| 05:21.18 | NeoTron | Ulduar is what I'd expect |
| 05:21.20 | NightHawkTheSan1 | sure, but we're kind of talking apples and oranges. there's no secret that naxx is 'rehashed' content. they didn't try to hide that, and they kept the fights the same intentionally |
| 05:21.26 | NeoTron | even if it wasn't 14 bosses or whatever |
| 05:21.27 | ZorbaBeta | sure, but technically, both of those could have looked far more awesome |
| 05:21.32 | ZorbaBeta | I mean even VoA looked cooler than either of those |
| 05:21.40 | NeoTron | agreed |
| 05:21.59 | NeoTron | and I'm sorry but Collisium as the sole tier 9 raid instance is pretty sad |
| 05:22.04 | ZorbaBeta | so, if I had to rank the coolness factor of the four raids Wrath started with, it'd have to be Naxx > VoA > Sarth > Malygos |
| 05:22.19 | NeoTron | I am sure the encounters might be fun but it takes place in two rooms. that's incredibly cheap |
| 05:22.23 | ZorbaBeta | with admittedly all of the heroics ranked above Naxx in terms of awesomeness, but Naxx still beats out all the raids. |
| 05:22.32 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ZorbaBeta: tbh, i'd rank VoA lower, i wasn't really impressed with the zone, or the fights. |
| 05:22.40 | NightHawkTheSan1 | but we're getting pretty subjective here so |
| 05:22.46 | NeoTron | Naxx was the only "real" (as in full) raid instance though |
| 05:23.14 | NeoTron | btw, Karazha => 10 encounters with one being 3 different ones + gruul + mag + 6 in ssc and 4 in tk |
| 05:23.25 | NeoTron | that was the starting raids, essentially (although TK wasn't exactly all there...) |
| 05:23.43 | NeoTron | hyjal/bt added 14 more encounters |
| 05:23.51 | NightHawkTheSan1 | yeah, BC started with more open. |
| 05:23.53 | NeoTron | ZorbaBeta: did you raid in BC? |
| 05:23.56 | NeoTron | as in did you do BT? |
| 05:24.12 | ZorbaBeta | neo, I did Kara once and ZA twice :P |
| 05:24.20 | ZorbaBeta | didn't step into anything >10man until Wrath |
| 05:24.28 | kd3 | heh, whoops. we nuked volazj too fast |
| 05:24.30 | NeoTron | ok. Well BT once you go out in supremus "room" had a new sense of scale no seen before |
| 05:24.32 | kd3 | all 3 insanity phases at once |
| 05:24.33 | NeoTron | and very majestic music |
| 05:24.37 | Adys | OH FOR FUCKS SAKE. |
| 05:24.39 | NeoTron | it was extremely thematic and fulfilling |
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| 05:25.05 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i think its probably better to compare hyjal/bt with whatever icecrown will have, instead of the colosseum, to be sure |
| 05:25.07 | ZorbaBeta | kd, haha, that sounds awesome |
| 05:25.20 | NightHawkTheSan1 | kd3: 3 eh? i've seen 2x insanity at the same time before.. |
| 05:25.24 | NeoTron | no raid tier in BC had just 6 bosses though |
| 05:25.26 | Adys | 30 minutes maintenance on the database messing badly with the sql backend. 3 minutes in, apache restarts itself and I dont notice until 20 mins later |
| 05:25.31 | NeoTron | even t5 which was the smallest had 10 |
| 05:25.32 | Adys | 1400 postfix mails |
| 05:25.32 | Adys | ffs. |
| 05:25.49 | kd3 | we made it to 20% before he cast anything |
| 05:25.49 | NightHawkTheSan1 | NeoTron: didn't ZA have like 6ish? |
| 05:26.05 | NeoTron | well 10 man is its own thing |
| 05:26.21 | NeoTron | can't really count them as their own tier since they were sort of a "small raider bonus" in bc |
| 05:26.30 | NightHawkTheSan1 | eh, it kinda wasn't in BC, though. didn't have the 10/25 man parallel |
| 05:26.34 | NeoTron | 10 man raiding is admittedly more evolved in LK |
| 05:26.47 | NightHawkTheSan1 | plenty of guilds that regularly did 25s did ZA for loot |
| 05:26.50 | NeoTron | you didn't have any 10 man raiding guilds to speak of |
| 05:26.56 | NeoTron | that's all I mean |
| 05:27.00 | NightHawkTheSan1 | yeah |
| 05:27.07 | NeoTron | and few 25 man guilds would run 10 mans on their regular raid nights |
| 05:27.19 | NeoTron | I must say though |
| 05:27.20 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i'm just saying, it is content, and people DID do it, just discounting it because it wasn't a formal 25 man loot tier in BC is a mistake |
| 05:27.29 | NeoTron | 10 man raiding guilds are in some ways harder to handle than 25 mans |
| 05:27.43 | NeoTron | easier to manage of course but it makes any offnight activities almost impossible |
| 05:28.09 | NightHawkTheSan1 | NeoTron: in some ways yeah. and they sometimes much less forgiving if you lose someone |
| 05:28.34 | NeoTron | and let's face it. except for S3D, 10 man content is a lot easier |
| 05:29.00 | NeoTron | We just fell apart though, no way we could have continued 25 man raiding |
| 05:29.01 | NightHawkTheSan1 | *shrug* |
| 05:29.07 | NeoTron | in a matter of two weeks we lost like 7 people |
| 05:29.16 | NeoTron | ended up with a total roster of 22 people or so |
| 05:29.31 | NightHawkTheSan1 | hard for me to judge that. 10 man i was in was rather good. the 25 man group i was in was.. not. |
| 05:29.35 | NeoTron | with one of the 7 being the guy almost solely responsible for keeping us going for a slong as we did |
| 05:30.02 | NeoTron | we nevr really had any real chances of doing 25 man hard modes |
| 05:30.33 | ZorbaBeta | I think there's basically two ways my faction goes right now |
| 05:30.34 | NeoTron | which btw I do have some comments about too heh.. Mainly that in a place like Ulduar, it was challenging for a 3x4 raiding guild to prioritize hard mode practice vs clearing |
| 05:30.42 | NeoTron | and as a result we lost at least one yogg kill |
| 05:30.44 | NightHawkTheSan1 | heh. yeah, i'd be shocked if the guild i was in has even cleared ulduar yet. |
| 05:30.47 | ZorbaBeta | either the two leading guilds merge, or one of them disbands and the other cannibalizes the corpse, or they both disband. |
| 05:31.11 | NeoTron | ZorbaBeta: I've seen a lot of guilds implode unfortunately, including my own |
| 05:31.27 | NeoTron | mind you we had an OK 10 man situation but I was burned out and when I resigned, the guild really imploded |
| 05:31.27 | NightHawkTheSan1 | NeoTron: agreed, we did even less, 2 nights a week, ~3 hours a night. progression vs clearing existing bosses was a constant struggle |
| 05:31.35 | NeoTron | and like 8 of the 12 people we had quit wow |
| 05:31.39 | ZorbaBeta | problem is that it's not guild, it's literally server. there's two guilds that are past XT-002. |
| 05:31.50 | NeoTron | ZorbaBeta: there's always transfers |
| 05:31.51 | ZorbaBeta | if both guilds implode, the raiding scene on that faction is pretty much shot. |
| 05:32.00 | ZorbaBeta | why would anyone ever transfer *to* my server |
| 05:32.10 | NeoTron | I wonder how long it will be until they merge low player servers together |
| 05:32.37 | ZorbaBeta | funny thing is that my server isn't actually low-pop anymore, it was recommended for so long that it's high-pop |
| 05:32.48 | NeoTron | I mean, maybe it's a specific tier (i.e medium high progression raiding) but I've seen so many people quit out of the ones I know |
| 05:32.57 | NeoTron | and I pretty much only knew people in my own guild |
| 05:33.00 | ZorbaBeta | but few are level 80, and anyone who hits level 80 either ends up joining one of the two struggling guilds, or transfers |
| 05:33.28 | NeoTron | maybe the casual market is striving more than ever - I don't know |
| 05:34.58 | A-KO | they wouldn't work on allowing faction transfers if they weren't trying to retain or get back players |
| 05:35.09 | A-KO | "Hey I can go play with all my friends that play horde/alliance now" |
| 05:35.10 | A-KO | ^^^ |
| 05:35.10 | NeoTron | yes |
| 05:35.28 | NeoTron | a lot of the recent changes have definitely looked like attempts to retain playerbase |
| 05:35.58 | NeoTron | the faction change is huge but lesser ones include the 3 day cooldown (good income + allows player to transfer and trial with less risk) |
| 05:36.13 | NeoTron | getting leet loot for 5 man badges is pretty high on the shark list too |
| 05:36.21 | NightHawkTheSan1 | I wouldn't take those as sure signs that they're hemorrhaging players, though. |
| 05:36.40 | A-KO | maybe not in huge amounts |
| 05:36.43 | NeoTron | especially since they specifically said that they didn't want to repeat that mistake from end of bc |
| 05:36.45 | A-KO | but perhaps a decline nonetheless |
| 05:36.45 | NightHawkTheSan1 | NeoTron: nah, the latter's along the same lines of offering nice loot for badges with the sunwell patch in bc |
| 05:37.03 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSan1: exactly. something they said was a mistake and they don't want to do again |
| 05:37.05 | A-KO | no, the offering loot thing is to allow players and alts to catch up to mains |
| 05:37.11 | A-KO | and they're not |
| 05:37.25 | NightHawkTheSan1 | NeoTron: well, the key difference between the two is that the 'Sunwell' badge items were AS good as top end loot |
| 05:37.26 | NeoTron | it's a bit lower tiers but it still isn't disimilar. |
| 05:37.28 | A-KO | well, they are, but to a lesser extent....if you don't raid 25 at all, you get 2 triumphs per day |
| 05:37.47 | NeoTron | sunwell badge items were lowertier than sunwell gear |
| 05:37.48 | NightHawkTheSan1 | the best you can get now from 'old' content badges is still a tier behind |
| 05:37.53 | NeoTron | so not exactly true, it was a tier lower |
| 05:38.00 | A-KO | the amount of days it will take you to get 1 item without raiding is significantly low--in fact, the triumphs are more for the people that raid 25s but could use some extra badges here and there |
| 05:38.13 | End | sunwell badge items were BT/Hyjal ilvl, weren't they? |
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| 05:38.19 | NeoTron | correct |
| 05:38.31 | NightHawkTheSan1 | eh, maybe, but sunwell was also the -last- content in bc, and very few people did it, relative to the rest of the content. |
| 05:38.48 | A-KO | I don't have a problem getting people with conquest up to partially 226 gear |
| 05:38.53 | A-KO | since 245/258 are so far above those items |
| 05:38.55 | A-KO | it's ridiculous |
| 05:38.59 | NightHawkTheSan1 | there's more content post-colosseum |
| 05:39.18 | A-KO | I mean hell you get 232 from 10 man coliseum |
| 05:39.27 | End | I think the coliseum is more analogous to AQ than sunwell |
| 05:39.44 | NeoTron | all things besides, don't you think it would be a lot better if they AT LEAST added a new dragon portal boss? |
| 05:39.46 | End | except it actually gets a "proper" tier |
| 05:39.48 | End | which surprised me |
| 05:39.58 | NeoTron | just something more than 6 bosses fought in two rooms |
| 05:40.00 | NightHawkTheSan1 | NeoTron: Actually, yes. :( |
| 05:40.15 | NeoTron | I mean it's clear that 3.2 was a BG instance and the raiding was a cheaply added instance to allow pvp tier to go up |
| 05:40.18 | End | I thought they should have added a new dragon boss with each tier |
| 05:40.22 | End | but they haven't, obviously |
| 05:40.31 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, I have to admit I'd like a new dragon portal boss also |
| 05:40.32 | NeoTron | End: indeed I expected that based on the layout in that room |
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| 05:40.44 | NeoTron | the fact that they didn't was quite surprising |
| 05:40.49 | ZorbaBeta | I wonder if they're planning on adding new bosses in future expansions, or if it's just going to be one of those things that Blizzard drops on the floor and maybe comes back to five years later |
| 05:40.51 | End | overall, sarth's presense seems a bit random now |
| 05:41.09 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ZorbaBeta: the latter, except s/comes back to.*// :p |
| 05:41.12 | NeoTron | ZorbaBeta: can pretty much be sure by now that they won't revisit it |
| 05:41.17 | ZorbaBeta | night, I did say "maybe" ;) |
| 05:41.26 | NightHawkTheSan1 | End: are we even given a reason why we're fighting sarth in the first place? :P |
| 05:41.34 | NeoTron | and it's a pity since a nice quick boss is a fun thing to add |
| 05:41.36 | End | sort of |
| 05:41.37 | End | not in game |
| 05:41.45 | NightHawkTheSan1 | or is it just that he's black dragonflight and evil, and blah blah blah |
| 05:41.55 | ZorbaBeta | I mean it wouldn't be the first time they dropped a new raid in territory that was otherwise obsolete in the new expansion |
| 05:41.59 | NeoTron | I admit that the biggest letdown to me in LK is fighting a damn aspect |
| 05:42.00 | End | I think the novels give clues, and it's obviously tied to the black dragonflight meddling with netherwing dragons |
| 05:42.04 | ZorbaBeta | I am kind of sad that we won't see Uldum though |
| 05:42.05 | NeoTron | and not just fighting him but killing him |
| 05:42.22 | NightHawkTheSan1 | End: yeah, that much you can sorta gather |
| 05:42.30 | NightHawkTheSan1 | NeoTron: eh, that bothers me a lot less really |
| 05:42.33 | NeoTron | I'm sad Azjol'nerub was a teeny 5-man |
| 05:42.44 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSan1: it's a lollore |
| 05:42.57 | NightHawkTheSan1 | NeoTron: at least you dont kill him all yourself, alexstrasza shows up, with some dragons, etc. I can sorta do a suspension of disbelief |
| 05:43.25 | End | yea |
| 05:43.49 | NeoTron | well alextrasza doesn't but yeah sure you have help |
| 05:43.52 | NeoTron | but he's mostly dead then |
| 05:44.13 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i would have much rather -not- killed him. kind of like slapped him silly and made him see sense, but meh. |
| 05:44.17 | NeoTron | of course relative difficulty of encounters is all shot to hell anyway so I guess why does it matteR? :P |
| 05:45.00 | NeoTron | Malygos proved one thing |
| 05:45.07 | NeoTron | people aren't very good at fighting in 3d |
| 05:45.26 | ZorbaBeta | the Malygos background always gives me motion sickness if we have to try it more than once or twice |
| 05:45.30 | End | the game isn't really designed for it either though |
| 05:45.45 | zenzelezz | NeoTron: also that "gather at the spot where all the totems are" is hard to understand |
| 05:46.14 | NightHawkTheSan1 | or "stack on the marks"? hell, even in 2d people dont seem to understand "stack" |
| 05:46.52 | zenzelezz | I remember in the Pandemonium raids in Anarchy Online, it was somewhat the same. "Be the blob" |
| 05:47.23 | NeoTron | It's always hard for me to move on to another mmorpg (well always - I've only played 2!) |
| 05:47.50 | NeoTron | but I admit it was harder to let go of SWG, mainly I think because it was a much more social game |
| 05:48.10 | NeoTron | in part due to there wasn't any raiding or hard end game combat content |
| 05:48.22 | NeoTron | and |
| 05:48.39 | zenzelezz | I've spent perhaps a month in each of SWG and EQII, never managed to get into them much. Spent quite a long time in Anarchy Online before friends sucked me into Wow |
| 05:48.40 | zenzelezz | *WoW |
| 05:48.54 | NeoTron | I was rather successful in SWG |
| 05:49.01 | NeoTron | best doc on the server |
| 05:49.46 | zenzelezz | I think I was generally unknown in AO, except sometimes called "that freaking fixer with a GPH" |
| 05:50.45 | End | eep |
| 05:50.52 | NeoTron | the city building and crafting aspects, and player housing, is always something I sorely missed from WoW |
| 05:50.55 | ZorbaBeta | I stopped playing AO when I got Grid Armor, back when it was ridiculously good |
| 05:50.57 | End | I have 53 isle of conquest marks of honor already |
| 05:51.08 | ZorbaBeta | I got it and realized that I'd never surpass it until an expansion came out |
| 05:51.09 | NeoTron | where SWG fell short in pve content, WoW basically is lacking entirely in anything but |
| 05:51.12 | ZorbaBeta | and then I stopped playing |
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| 05:52.09 | zenzelezz | ZorbaBeta: I never had GA... but I sold a disc for it once when I was a lowbie, made me quite rich |
| 05:52.46 | zenzelezz | I just couldn't be bothered to spend so much IP on Matter Creations when GA was about the only spell I had that used it |
| 05:52.54 | ZorbaBeta | I heard they nerfed it pretty significantly, but when I played it was basically "hey now you are invincible GJ" |
| 05:53.23 | zenzelezz | I wouldn't say they nerfed it that much, at least not while I was still playing... but they created new good stuff in the expansion |
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| 06:10.19 | kd3 | rofl; http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2577509/Ram-bo-slides-down-high-wire.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News |
| 06:10.55 | Sesshu | poor sheep |
| 06:10.58 | Sesshu | :( |
| 06:13.17 | Sesshu | http://pics.nase-bohren.de/camel-balls.jpg/1249711984 |
| 06:14.25 | Corrodias | what the shit |
| 06:14.31 | Corrodias | please tell me that's, like, brazilian |
| 06:15.10 | Sesshu | dunno |
| 06:16.32 | Sesshu | a friend showed me this |
| 06:16.33 | Sesshu | xD |
| 06:25.07 | Shirik|zZz | wtf kd3 |
| 06:25.48 | Shirik|zZz | Sesshu, l2picture |
| 06:25.57 | Sesshu | hm? |
| 06:26.10 | Sesshu | huh |
| 06:26.17 | Shirik|zZz | no picture! |
| 06:26.22 | Sesshu | i tested this link |
| 06:26.26 | Sesshu | it worked! |
| 06:26.28 | Sesshu | -.- |
| 06:26.34 | Sesshu | http://pics.nase-bohren.de/camel-balls.jpg/ |
| 06:26.38 | Sesshu | try this |
| 06:26.56 | Shirik|zZz | negatory |
| 06:27.11 | Shirik|zZz | ok got it |
| 06:27.17 | Shirik|zZz | and wtf |
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| 06:38.28 | VonhintenHOME` | what am I missing about this site... what is it interesting? |
| 06:38.42 | VonhintenHOME` | the translationparty |
| 06:38.56 | VonhintenHOME` | what=why |
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| 06:51.32 | A-KO | wow |
| 06:51.39 | A-KO | I've officially impressed myself :P |
| 06:52.07 | Corrodias | good job |
| 06:52.47 | Arrowmaster | why the hell is my mouse cursor solid black over RDP |
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| 06:59.44 | Arrowmaster` | Shirik: would be proud of me |
| 07:00.20 | Arrowmaster` | irssi running on my new computer via putty on my old computer via RDP on my new computer |
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| 07:03.57 | Arrowmaster | i wonder how i cancel this rdp session |
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| 07:16.55 | A-KO | is button:SetText(""); the same as setting to nil? or no? |
| 07:19.13 | Sesshu | no |
| 07:19.19 | Sesshu | nil is nothing |
| 07:19.32 | Sesshu | mom |
| 07:19.45 | A-KO | so how do I set it to nil? |
| 07:19.48 | A-KO | can you? |
| 07:21.19 | Sesshu | if you try string.find(button:GetText(), "something") you will get an error if the button text is nil.. if the button text is "" not |
| 07:21.22 | Sesshu | uhm |
| 07:22.36 | Sesshu | SetText(nil) |
| 07:23.11 | A-KO | doesn't work |
| 07:23.12 | A-KO | errors :P |
| 07:23.18 | A-KO | says I'm not using SetText() properly |
| 07:23.39 | Sesshu | hm |
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| 07:24.25 | A-KO | basicaly, I have it inserting values into a table from an edit box |
| 07:25.23 | Sesshu | ./run GameMenuButtonOptions:SetText(nil) works fine! |
| 07:25.24 | A-KO | and of course, I have it reset the edit box text--the problem is, I don't want the button to work if you didn't type something into the edti box |
| 07:26.12 | nevcairiel | so check if its empty? doesnt have to be nil |
| 07:27.44 | Sesshu | the button musn't work if theres no typed into a edit box? |
| 07:27.52 | A-KO | that's correct Sesshu :P |
| 07:28.20 | A-KO | I simply set a variable to editbox:GetText(); and then check if var ~= "" or ~= nil..... |
| 07:28.26 | Sesshu | if editbox:GetText() == "" then Button:SetScript("OnClick", nil) end |
| 07:28.27 | A-KO | is that wrong? it's like 3:30AM so my brain isn't working.... |
| 07:28.34 | A-KO | oh |
| 07:28.53 | nevcairiel | you need to use "and", not or |
| 07:29.14 | Sesshu | if a edit box is empty it will return "" |
| 07:29.16 | Sesshu | not nil |
| 07:29.22 | Sesshu | an* |
| 07:29.29 | A-KO | oh?.... |
| 07:30.40 | A-KO | well that explains it :P |
| 07:33.17 | A-KO | thanks |
| 07:33.55 | Sesshu | np |
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| 08:24.48 | Saeris | Anyone know the status of a 3.2 version of LibTradeLinks? Released somewhere? In the works, maybe? |
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| 08:51.07 | Vilkku | tekkub, from teksloot wowinterface comments: "It will also cause wow to spam "you aren't in a party" when in a raid group (tested with BGs)." - I wasn't sure this enough was reason to post it on the issue tracker, but do you have any clue about this, or is this the first time you heard? |
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| 09:12.25 | Saeris | I ran into the same problem. SendAddonMessage() used to ignore "PARTY" as a chat type if you weren't in a party. Now it gives that message instead. Addons are using GetNumPartyMembers() to determine if the player is in a party, when they should be using GetRealNumPartyMembers() to account for being in a battleground but not being in a real party. |
| 09:28.00 | ZorbaBeta | anytime you need to make a new function that includes the word "real", something has gone very wrong with the API design. |
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| 09:29.55 | Arrowmaster | its not a new function |
| 09:30.03 | Arrowmaster | its atleast 2 maybe 3 years old |
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| 09:34.42 | bluspacecow | anyone know how to check an iCal calender for damage ? |
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| 09:44.31 | ZorbaBeta | arrow, at one point, it was new. |
| 09:45.04 | ZorbaBeta | the design doesn't somehow get better by virtue of the fact that it's been around for years. |
| 09:45.04 | bluspacecow | herri zorby borby worby |
| 09:45.10 | ZorbaBeta | heya |
| 09:47.33 | bluspacecow | "As if it were a swarm of bees, you should stay away from the SyncServices folder" |
| 09:47.39 | bluspacecow | lolz @ Apple's tech docs |
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| 10:10.10 | sylvanaar | it was a poor design - they did it because of the autogrouping in bg's - they made them raids instead of some new type of group - at the time it made sense since people made raids in bg's and you couldnt join other groups |
| 10:11.03 | sylvanaar | its one of those design choices that only makes sense when placed in its original context |
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| 11:05.51 | Industrial | http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/592441/289e69a8/zelf_pizza_gemaakt.html' |
| 11:05.55 | Industrial | http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/592441/289e69a8/zelf_pizza_gemaakt.html |
| 11:05.57 | Industrial | lollll |
| 11:06.05 | mikma | ol ol ol lolo |
| 11:06.11 | mikma | hai, iz back |
| 11:07.16 | mikma | industrial: thats... a very tasty pizza |
| 11:08.10 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 11:08.13 | bluspacecow | wot is it ? |
| 11:08.20 | jaxdahl | looks like a burnt pizza? |
| 11:08.28 | Industrial | well the word pizza is in the url ;p |
| 11:08.36 | bluspacecow | go go google translate |
| 11:08.42 | bluspacecow | http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=y&u=http%3a//www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/592441/289e69a8/zelf_pizza_gemaakt.html&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0= |
| 11:08.55 | bluspacecow | "self made pizza" |
| 11:09.00 | bluspacecow | "burnt pizza" |
| 11:09.27 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/5_4_3_2_1_fail.jpg <- hahaa |
| 11:11.43 | bluspacecow | Lekker vissen met je vriendenKudos |
| 11:11.49 | bluspacecow | i like that phrase :) |
| 11:12.54 | mikma | industrial: how do you say "but she said she was 12" in dutch? |
| 11:13.49 | bluspacecow | "Lekker vissen met je vrienden" == Beautiful fish with your friends |
| 11:13.55 | bluspacecow | i think |
| 11:14.27 | mikma | ~x nl en Lekker vissen met je vrienden |
| 11:14.39 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 11:14.44 | Wimpsy` | What's the best glove enchant for a discipline PvP priest? |
| 11:14.45 | bluspacecow | purl does translation ? |
| 11:14.48 | mikma | highfives purl |
| 11:14.49 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 11:15.11 | bluspacecow | ~x en nl Your father smells of elderberries |
| 11:15.26 | Wimpsy` | haha |
| 11:15.34 | mikma | ~x en nl but she said she was 12 |
| 11:15.50 | Wimpsy` | ~x en nl Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! |
| 11:15.53 | bluspacecow | ~x en nl but she said she was eighteen |
| 11:16.00 | mikma | that's from monty python? |
| 11:16.06 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 11:16.06 | Wimpsy` | Yah. |
| 11:17.23 | Industrial | mikma: maar ze zei dat ze twaalf was |
| 11:17.55 | mikma | industrial: i bet that's a common sentence with the pedophile party ^^ |
| 11:18.05 | Industrial | ew :\ |
| 11:18.06 | mikma | didn't they want to lower the age of "underaged" to 12 or so |
| 11:18.24 | bluspacecow | ~x en nl Brrrrrrr its friggen cold ! Below five at least ! |
| 11:18.35 | Industrial | yes, and the dude got kicked out of every asociation club house caravan everything he owned |
| 11:18.37 | bluspacecow | oooo i like that word |
| 11:18.45 | bluspacecow | friggenkoude |
| 11:18.48 | mikma | industrial: http://www.bloggernews.net/1159 |
| 11:18.51 | bluspacecow | ok purl |
| 11:18.52 | mikma | yeah, from 16 to 12 |
| 11:18.58 | bluspacecow | ~x en nl friggenkoude |
| 11:19.02 | mikma | and legalize childporn |
| 11:19.06 | bluspacecow | woops wrong way |
| 11:19.11 | mikma | and sex with animals |
| 11:19.12 | Industrial | yes, weird ppl :| |
| 11:19.13 | bluspacecow | ~x nl en friggenkoude |
| 11:19.23 | Industrial | bluspacecow: thats was a wrong translation, friggen is not a word |
| 11:19.32 | bluspacecow | oh right |
| 11:19.37 | bluspacecow | i still liek the word tho |
| 11:19.44 | bluspacecow | "friggenkoude" |
| 11:19.46 | Industrial | bluspacecow: Het is ijskoud, minstens onder vijf. |
| 11:19.50 | bluspacecow | even tho its not a word |
| 11:20.27 | bluspacecow | i can't put a qualifer on cold ? |
| 11:20.32 | bluspacecow | like really cold ? |
| 11:20.35 | bluspacecow | or bloody cold ? |
| 11:21.43 | Industrial | ~x en nl It's really cold. |
| 11:21.55 | Industrial | ~x en nl Its really cold. |
| 11:22.10 | mikma | ~x en nl it is really cold. |
| 11:22.21 | mikma | ~x en nl nipples |
| 11:22.28 | bluspacecow | ~x en nl i have a fish in my ear |
| 11:22.28 | Industrial | LOL |
| 11:22.30 | Industrial | LOOOL |
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| 11:22.46 | Industrial | mikma |
| 11:22.50 | mikma | hello? |
| 11:22.52 | Industrial | ~x nl en uitsteeksels |
| 11:22.58 | Industrial | lmao |
| 11:22.59 | mikma | ... |
| 11:23.02 | mikma | what the |
| 11:23.24 | Industrial | the word is tepels. |
| 11:23.39 | bluspacecow | ~x nl en tepels ? |
| 11:23.46 | Industrial | \:D/ |
| 11:24.03 | zenzelezz | ~x nl en eitje |
| 11:24.21 | zenzelezz | ~x en nl easy |
| 11:24.44 | zenzelezz | hm, I swear my Dutch guildies used to say something close to eitje after boss kills |
| 11:24.55 | Industrial | yes, piece of cake |
| 11:24.56 | Industrial | :p |
| 11:25.13 | zenzelezz | so it does mean that too? "Ovule" didn't quite sound right |
| 11:25.28 | Industrial | yea |
| 11:25.29 | bluspacecow | het is momenteel drie graden celcius in Nieuw Zeeland |
| 11:26.21 | Industrial | bluspacecow: yipes 30 here |
| 11:27.53 | bluspacecow | think its time to get a little heat into my room |
| 11:27.55 | bluspacecow | brb |
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| 11:39.26 | Industrial | http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/589821/92780e98/negert_ontdekt_rickroll.html |
| 11:39.27 | Industrial | lolll |
| 11:45.36 | Vilkku | .quote 1 |
| 11:45.41 | bluspacecow | morn torhal |
| 11:45.45 | Vilkku | whoops :P wrong chan :D |
| 11:45.58 | bluspacecow | hmm ? |
| 11:46.21 | bluspacecow | is that a bot command in some other chan |
| 11:46.22 | bluspacecow | eg |
| 11:46.28 | bluspacecow | ~lart Bluspacecwp |
| 11:46.28 | purl | decapitates Bluspacecwp conan the destroyer style |
| 11:50.22 | Torhal | G'morning bluspacecow |
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| 12:01.04 | Fisker | Any apache guys here? :P |
| 12:01.32 | Lukian | lands a 'copter on Fisker's head |
| 12:02.02 | Fisker | baw |
| 12:02.43 | bluspacecow | nice hair cut dood |
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| 12:25.34 | Mikk | errr... where the heck did the "show lua errors" setting go? |
| 12:25.37 | Mikk | feels blind |
| 12:26.22 | mikma | in the interface options!!!111 |
| 12:26.26 | mikma | olololoooooololo |
| 12:27.00 | Mikk | aaahhhhh under "Help" >.< |
| 12:27.12 | mikma | halp lol |
| 12:28.43 | Mikk | help, mikma is permanently channeling Fisker now =( |
| 12:29.37 | mikma | aye |
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| 12:55.54 | bluspacecow | should i wait for himm to make your mama jokes to me ? |
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| 13:01.37 | foxlit | Please, sir, that is an insult to Fiskers everywhere. |
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| 13:42.42 | Fisker | indeed foxlit |
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| 13:54.43 | cogumel0 | what's the api to return the color of a class ? |
| 13:57.07 | cogumel0 | or better yet, how do I get the class of a unit ? |
| 13:59.28 | cogumel0 | nvm, finally found it -.- |
| 14:00.42 | cbreak | UnitClass |
| 14:00.48 | cbreak | and there's a global table with colors |
| 14:01.11 | cogumel0 | yeah, found it already :) |
| 14:01.12 | cogumel0 | RAID_CLASS_COLORS |
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| 14:05.35 | cogumel0 | I'm getting this error when I do local _, class = UnitClass(unit); RAID_CLASS_COLORS(class) --- attempt to call global 'RAID_CLASS_COLORS' (a table value) |
| 14:05.37 | cogumel0 | any idea why ? |
| 14:05.58 | nevcairiel | RAID_CLASS_COLORS is a table |
| 14:06.10 | nevcairiel | do RAID_CLASS_COLORS[class] |
| 14:06.11 | Pneu^ | not a function |
| 14:06.11 | cogumel0 | ahh, ok |
| 14:06.14 | cogumel0 | :P |
| 14:06.16 | cogumel0 | fair enough |
| 14:06.33 | cogumel0 | can I save all the colors it returns to 1 rgb table all in 1 go ? |
| 14:07.40 | Pneu^ | for class, col in pairs(RAID_CLASS_COLORS) do |
| 14:08.12 | Pneu^ | although you probably dont need to, as you can just RAID_CLASS_COLORS[class].r RAID_CLASS_COLORS[class].g RAID_CLASS_COLORS[class].b |
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| 14:08.38 | cogumel0 | aright, thx |
| 14:13.10 | cbreak | how long does it take the WoWInterface backend to handle pending updates to an addon? |
| 14:13.26 | nevcairiel | that depends how fast someone approves it |
| 14:13.30 | Pneu^ | someone manually approves iirc |
| 14:15.51 | foxlit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GRU_emblem.svg << batman logo? |
| 14:16.50 | cbreak | hmm. interesting :) |
| 14:24.01 | p3lim | anyone here good with ruby? |
| 14:25.59 | sacarasc | I look better with emeralds. |
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| 15:26.00 | tlund | is there some small addon that can filter small heals and managains from the combatlog? |
| 15:26.44 | A-KO | any particular reason? SCT built into WoW will show things like that |
| 15:28.35 | tlund | A-KO: sorry, i dont understand? I am talking about the combat log, not SCT |
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| 15:47.25 | Wobin | http://abstrusegoose.com/ is so my life atm >< |
| 15:48.34 | Adys | nicoli_s: btw, http://db.mmo-champion.com/tt.js |
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| 16:03.55 | Ackis | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=285139#post285139 ahahaha |
| 16:06.39 | cbreak | that does not seem worthy of spending money for |
| 16:07.33 | Ackis | that's an early promo release thingy, the new ones out look a lot better |
| 16:08.06 | cbreak | still, it's horde. an orc at that. |
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| 16:25.04 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10431414045&sid=1 <-i just can't respond to that :( |
| 16:25.13 | Fisker | totally outplayed |
| 16:28.50 | foxlit | Finally met your match? |
| 16:28.53 | Industrial | thats pretty .. yeah. |
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| 16:38.12 | Industrial | foxlit: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/police4.jpg |
| 16:38.15 | Industrial | Fisker: ^ sorry |
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| 16:38.24 | Industrial | wrong tab :< |
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| 16:49.49 | Shirik | http://translationparty.com/tp/#642289 |
| 16:51.06 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:52.00 | mikma | shirik: awesome |
| 16:55.42 | mikma | shirik: http://translationparty.com/tp/#643175 |
| 16:55.53 | Gotai | Does anyone know if there's a way to pick results from online guildies only using GetAutoCompleteResults? Simply combining the two flags (IN_GUILD and ONLINE) using bit.bor seems to select players that are either online or in guild. |
| 16:56.00 | A-KO | how do you anchor the minimap button to the minimap frame so if you try to move it, it only rotates around the minimap? |
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| 16:59.07 | kd3 | gotai; use bit.band |
| 16:59.19 | foxlit | kd3: admirable but will never work. |
| 16:59.49 | foxlit | IN_GUILD & ONLINE == NONE |
| 17:00.51 | foxlit | Gotai: it does not appear that you can do that. |
| 17:01.07 | Gotai | I was thinking of comparing the results from both ONLINE an IN_GUILD, and selecting those that are in both lists, but that obviously would be less efficient. |
| 17:01.16 | foxlit | Indeed. |
| 17:01.19 | Gotai | Meh, was afraid of that. Thanks. :) |
| 17:01.56 | foxlit | You could try requesting something along the lines of splitting the include argument to includeAll and includeAny |
| 17:02.12 | foxlit | But, before you do that, try |
| 17:02.42 | foxlit | lua> bit.bnot(0x00000020) |
| 17:02.43 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'bit' (a nil value) |
| 17:02.49 | foxlit | lua> bnot(0x00000020) |
| 17:02.49 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'bnot' (a nil value) |
| 17:03.11 | Gotai | Alrighty, Iĺl check after dailies. Thanks. |
| 17:04.19 | foxlit | IN_GUILD as the sole include flag, and 0xffffffdf as the exclude |
| 17:05.39 | xilcoy | A-KO, take a look at LibDBIcon it'll rotate buttons even around odd-shaped minimaps |
| 17:08.05 | Gotai | foxlit, doesn't seem to work unfortunately. Guess I'll stick to the messy way and hope for Blizzard to implement it at some point. |
| 17:10.19 | foxlit | One more thing you could test: it would seem that the online values appear first in that list |
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| 17:11.16 | Gotai | Think it's alphabetized. |
| 17:11.49 | foxlit | That's definitely not the case. |
| 17:12.06 | foxlit | It goes something like "Ac" "Ax" "Aa" for me. |
| 17:12.12 | foxlit | with ac, ax being online, and aa being offline. |
| 17:12.12 | A-KO | oh nice xilcoy |
| 17:12.36 | Gotai | Hrm, guessing coincidence then that the online's displayed first, or it has issues with non-English chars. |
| 17:13.18 | foxlit | Seems to be the same pattern for most other letters. |
| 17:13.36 | Gotai | What include/exclude filters are you using? |
| 17:13.41 | foxlit | 2, 0 |
| 17:15.30 | Gotai | Meh, same results still. Online person being the last on the list in perfect alphabetic order. |
| 17:16.51 | foxlit | I'm guessing it's arbitrary order. |
| 17:17.08 | foxlit | Immediately after you log in, it's more likely that names from the guild roster get synced in. |
| 17:21.04 | kd3 | yay! my netbook is here |
| 17:25.46 | zenzelezz | now you can finally get on the net too |
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| 17:36.43 | A-KO | hmm, does frame:SetTexture(); not work? Or how do you set a texture on a frame? |
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| 17:39.42 | cbreak | you have to create one |
| 17:39.51 | cbreak | textures and font strings are inside a frame, not part of it |
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| 17:40.16 | A-KO | yeah I got it |
| 17:41.16 | cbreak | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_CreateTexture |
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| 17:58.41 | A-KO | hmm, I'm trying to set a texture on drag and drop (like the way the ui macro buttons work)....and when you drop it, it sets the texture to whatever the icon is...but it's not sized to fit in the box...I tried doing setheight/setwidth/setallpoints on the texture object |
| 17:59.04 | A-KO | but it's still very large.....and not fitting. When I define a texture in the XML file (the backdrop texture) and set the absdimensions in XML, that has the correct size.. |
| 17:59.33 | A-KO | so the object itself, and the default texture, have the correct size to start out, and when you drag an object to it, the resulting texture is like 1.5x the size or so |
| 18:01.31 | cbreak | did you clear the points? |
| 18:03.46 | A-KO | nevermind it seems you need to use http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Texture/SetTexCoord |
| 18:03.54 | cbreak | no |
| 18:03.58 | A-KO | no? |
| 18:04.03 | cbreak | that's for something else |
| 18:04.07 | A-KO | hmmmm |
| 18:04.11 | A-KO | yeah I did clear all points |
| 18:04.13 | cbreak | to chose which part of the texture you want to select |
| 18:04.24 | A-KO | yeha....lol |
| 18:04.26 | cbreak | if you want to replace a texture, you don't need to create a new one |
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| 18:06.03 | A-KO | hmmmm I did clear all points |
| 18:06.19 | zenzelezz | pastey your code? |
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| 18:15.19 | Dagmar | Whooah... yesh something was definitely broken with pets until they did that maintenance thing |
| 18:16.36 | zenzelezz | oh? |
| 18:16.44 | zenzelezz | snuggles Cairenn vigorously |
| 18:16.53 | Cairenn | cuddles zenzelezz |
| 18:30.02 | Dagmar | zenzelezz: Strange tho it may sound, I think something progressively demolished the databsae for player pet after the patch |
| 18:30.10 | Dagmar | The night OF the patch things went fine |
| 18:30.33 | Dagmar | The next night I and a buncn of other hunters were watching our pets die >10 times in instances |
| 18:30.52 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: sounds interesting |
| 18:31.07 | Dagmar | AFter the Thursday AM maintenance, monkey went right back to not being hit |
| 18:31.35 | Dagmar | I've run ToC and HToC twice each since then, no problems |
| 18:31.46 | Dagmar | If by "interesting" you mean "horrifying" |
| 18:32.13 | Dagmar | My pet doesn't die as much in a week than it was on ine ron of ToC there |
| 18:32.28 | Dagmar | s/ine ron/one run/; |
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| 20:04.04 | Fisker | slaps zenzelezz around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:04.05 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
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| 20:08.49 | Cairenn | slaps a large trout around with Fisker |
| 20:09.13 | NightHawkTheSane | chuckles |
| 20:11.04 | ScytheBlade1 | ~Cairenn++ |
| 20:11.12 | Cairenn | :) |
| 20:13.06 | Thunder_Child | im not sure feeding Fisker is ++ worthy |
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| 20:14.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Hey, if you want to -- her, be my guest |
| 20:14.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Fear the wrath, tho |
| 20:14.54 | Thunder_Child | i should -- you |
| 20:14.59 | Thunder_Child | you did it |
| 20:21.51 | tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:24.00 | tem | wow |
| 20:24.17 | tem | arena team named "Ben Dover and Alpha Queue" |
| 20:25.32 | zenzelezz | alpha queue? |
| 20:27.58 | Cairenn | is missing it too, zenzelezz |
| 20:28.05 | Cairenn | alpha queue? |
| 20:28.15 | zenzelezz | actually, I think I got it... very twisted "I'll fuck you" |
| 20:28.19 | Dagmar | Say it out loud |
| 20:28.26 | Cairenn | yeah yeah, just got it |
| 20:28.33 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: I can't think of any English dialect that would sound like that |
| 20:28.35 | zenzelezz | not even American |
| 20:31.58 | ScytheBlade1 | It isn't a dialect |
| 20:32.31 | ScytheBlade1 | well |
| 20:32.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Isn't really dialect-specific |
| 20:35.03 | Dagmar | THink harder or drink more |
| 20:35.28 | Dagmar | The only difference between the two phrases is which syllable the emphasis goes on |
| 20:36.27 | zenzelezz | to me at least there's generally a noticable difference between "al" and "I'll" |
| 20:36.44 | Dagmar | Yankeh |
| 20:36.52 | zenzelezz | Norwegian actually |
| 20:37.03 | Dagmar | Well there you go |
| 20:39.22 | Dagmar | http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=alpha http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=queue |
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| 20:39.46 | zenzelezz | any amount of facts won't change my opinion you know |
| 20:40.47 | Dagmar | Of course |
| 20:40.49 | NightHawkTheSane | *blink* |
| 20:40.59 | NightHawkTheSane | that statement, out of context (or even in context) seems.. silly |
| 20:41.01 | Dagmar | I was just amused I found something to actually pronounce those online |
| 20:41.41 | Dagmar | That and I've already has as much of the forums as I can stand today without going pro-abortion |
| 20:41.47 | zenzelezz | NightHawkTheSane: why's that? Opinion is rarely based on fact |
| 20:42.54 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: thats not really true for me. and that statement suggests that not only does your opinion have zero basis in reality, reality itself holds no sway over your beliefs. |
| 20:43.24 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Yes, but unlike forum posters he doesn't try to call you a fourteen-year-old when you dispute him, so it's cool. |
| 20:43.30 | zenzelezz | took you this long to figure that, did it? I thought my nick would have been enough of a give-away, but you've been here long enough to know what I'm like anyway :-op |
| 20:43.33 | zenzelezz | -p |
| 20:43.51 | Dagmar | I mean, come on. he comes right out and says facts won't change his opinion. That's downright gracious. :) |
| 20:43.56 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: hey, all i said is it seems silly out of context. ;) |
| 20:44.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: indeed :) |
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| 20:44.28 | Dagmar | I'm getting called names because I said someone's reset=6 in a trap macro was a bad idea |
| 20:44.47 | Dagmar | This is way better |
| 20:45.14 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i have this theory about the wow forums... |
| 20:45.17 | NightHawkTheSane | i don't go there. |
| 20:45.24 | Dagmar | Good "theory" |
| 20:45.24 | Corrodias | facts usually can't change genuine opinions because opinions have nothing to do with factual evidence. they're preferences. there are a lot of things that people call their "opinions" that are actually just lazy refuge in ignorance and not actual opinions, though. |
| 20:46.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: indeed, but to come out and recognize/admit that, is very odd. you're essentially admitting that you're wrong, but okay with being wrong. |
| 20:47.05 | Corrodias | you can't be wrong with an opinion |
| 20:47.15 | Dagmar | Well, you _can_ actually. |
| 20:47.17 | NightHawkTheSane | sure you can. |
| 20:47.26 | NightHawkTheSane | well, let me rephrase |
| 20:47.44 | NightHawkTheSane | most "opinions" are thinly veiled attempts to make the truth something other than it is. those can be wrong |
| 20:47.44 | Dagmar | You can't be wrong about what your opinion avers without being disingenuine. |
| 20:47.47 | Dagmar | We getcha |
| 20:47.49 | NightHawkTheSane | true opinions can't be wrong. |
| 20:47.54 | Corrodias | "avers"? |
| 20:48.14 | Dagmar | pardon http://mw1.meriam-webster.com/dictionary/aver |
| 20:48.35 | Corrodias | ah, neat |
| 20:48.39 | Dagmar | I somehow caught literacy in public school |
| 20:48.40 | Dagmar | ;) |
| 20:48.56 | NightHawkTheSane | that's a nasty disease. |
| 20:49.14 | Dagmar | Oh yeah. At my 10th reunion there were still a few people who thought I was gay |
| 20:49.56 | Dagmar | They're like, selling used cars or something now |
| 20:50.56 | Dagmar | Literacy can completely ruin a teenager's life |
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| 21:00.18 | Cloudwolf | guess my lifes ruined |
| 21:01.22 | mikma | dagmar: and you are still gay? |
| 21:01.32 | Dagmar | Yeah, looks like you'll have to show up at your reunions just looking young and attractive instead of prematurely middle-aged and poor. |
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| 21:08.04 | lozon | EFFFF lua sucks. |
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| 21:09.05 | zenzelezz | never heard of that version of lua before |
| 21:14.26 | Dagmar | Wow. Time to give some ebayer a crap rating |
| 21:14.52 | Dagmar | VonhintenHOME`: When someone pays $20 for UPS shipping, don't ship the package using the new "flat rate priority mail USPS" |
| 21:15.00 | Dagmar | Loverly autocomplete |
| 21:15.22 | Dagmar | ...and the dude gave my email address to some company that's now spamming me about a warranty on the phone |
| 21:15.37 | Dagmar | *eyesglow* |
| 21:15.52 | DWSR | IMA CHARGIN MA LAZERZ |
| 21:16.12 | Dagmar | This guy is in Indiana. I can get there in about five or six hours. |
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| 21:31.06 | foxlit | "You've been updated to the latest version of Firefox" |
| 21:31.24 | foxlit | is apparently replaced by a new copy from the good folks at Mozilla Foundation. |
| 21:33.29 | Adys | foxlit: so you mean you could actually get worse? |
| 21:33.50 | foxlit | nonsense. Now I'm just the latest and greatest version. |
| 21:34.08 | foxlit | I'll also make you safer on the web. |
| 21:34.14 | Wimpsy` | lua>10*10*10*10*10 |
| 21:34.14 | lua_bot | Wimpsy`: 100000 |
| 21:35.19 | Wimpsy` | I need to do my homework, I got that one to 10000. |
| 21:35.19 | Wimpsy` | :( |
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| 21:35.42 | DWSR | Wimpsy`: 10*10*10*10*10 == 10^5 |
| 21:35.46 | DWSR | lua>10^5 |
| 21:35.47 | lua_bot | DWSR: 100000 |
| 21:35.55 | Wimpsy` | Ah right. |
| 21:36.00 | Wimpsy` | I actually tried that but xChat makes that into |
| 21:36.01 | Wimpsy` | ¹ |
| 21:36.02 | Wimpsy` | ² |
| 21:36.02 | Wimpsy` | ³ |
| 21:36.10 | Wimpsy` | but it won't go further, it just gives me a nice error. :( |
| 21:36.11 | Adys | DWSR: 10*10*10*10*10 == 100000 |
| 21:36.20 | Adys | lua> 100000 |
| 21:36.21 | lua_bot | Adys: 100000 |
| 21:36.27 | DWSR | Good job Adys |
| 21:36.30 | Adys | thank you |
| 21:36.36 | Wimpsy` | Haha. |
| 21:36.45 | DWSR | You figured out that a constant is...well... constant. |
| 21:36.51 | Adys | isnt it |
| 21:36.56 | DWSR | Apparently so |
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| 21:39.50 | Wimpsy` | So, I've got this pastey. Of an oUF tag I'm trying to figure out. It's all done thanks to the great people at WoWInterface, but I have one more problem. I can't get it to "shorten" units at max health. :( Here's the pastey: http://pastey.net/120390 |
| 21:40.01 | Wimpsy` | Anyone that could take a look? |
| 21:40.28 | Wimpsy` | Tried a bunch of things already, such as ""shortVal(max))" at the end |
| 21:40.37 | Wimpsy` | That didn't work. |
| 21:41.25 | Cloudwolf | Friendly tip: Make sure you know which power cord your unpluging beforeyou unplug it.... im just glad i unpluged my router accidentaly instead of my computers power supply |
| 21:42.44 | cbreak | put labels on |
| 21:42.48 | cbreak | or colored sticky tape |
| 21:43.05 | Cloudwolf | dont have colored sticky tape and i dont realy have labels either lol |
| 21:43.14 | cbreak | cord? |
| 21:43.24 | foxlit | nuclear-powered routers are clearly the solution |
| 21:43.29 | Cloudwolf | i could use normal tpae and right on it |
| 21:43.42 | Cloudwolf | nuclear powered everything is the solution = no more power cords to confuse |
| 21:43.46 | cbreak | <tesla>Wireless Power!</tesla> |
| 21:44.28 | Cloudwolf | i wonder if they can make the cell phone charger where you just set the cellphone on the charger (instead of plugging it in) to an efficient enough and large enough scale to power a computer |
| 21:44.32 | Adys | night all |
| 21:44.42 | DWSR | Cloudwolf: They can. |
| 21:44.43 | Cloudwolf | i would love to have a desk made outa that |
| 21:44.50 | Cloudwolf | just set what ever i want powered on it XD |
| 21:44.53 | DWSR | It'll just give you cancer. |
| 21:45.08 | Cloudwolf | hell im prolly already getting cancer sitting at this computer for hours on end |
| 21:45.41 | cbreak | CRT? |
| 21:45.59 | DWSR | pft. |
| 21:46.02 | DWSR | Wireless will give you cancer. |
| 21:46.05 | DWSR | So will cell phones. |
| 21:46.09 | DWSR | Shit. everything gives you cancer. |
| 21:46.16 | cbreak | the wireless chargers for toothbrushes work via induction |
| 21:46.24 | cbreak | very short range |
| 21:46.32 | cbreak | even though they are contactless |
| 21:46.42 | cbreak | there are special pans for inductive stoves |
| 21:46.45 | cbreak | neat technology |
| 21:46.54 | DWSR | the problem with induction is the fact that it creates a magnetic field, I thought. |
| 21:47.09 | cbreak | it IS one. |
| 21:47.16 | cbreak | not what you want near a computer :) |
| 21:47.34 | DWSR | If we ever get to widespread SSDs, we'll be alright |
| 21:48.08 | cbreak | not sure I want to induce random power into the cabling or other conductors in a computer |
| 21:48.57 | Dagmar | Well, you're no fun |
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| 21:59.47 | foxlit | gr. |
| 22:00.09 | foxlit | Some combination of sleeping/waking my desktop/laptop causes OSX to become unable to connect to windows. |
| 22:00.24 | foxlit | Clearly, if I were using linux, I'd have other things to whine about :( |
| 22:01.10 | cbreak | connecting to windows? |
| 22:01.18 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 22:01.20 | cbreak | ssh? |
| 22:01.42 | cbreak | did the standard error resolution procedure solve it? :) |
| 22:02.04 | DWSR | restart? |
| 22:02.11 | cbreak | yes |
| 22:02.13 | DWSR | hehe |
| 22:02.16 | foxlit | It does. I don't want to, however. |
| 22:02.25 | cbreak | 10.5.8 |
| 22:02.30 | DWSR | oh hush about your uptime epeen |
| 22:02.51 | cbreak | either you need to install that, or you don't have any uptime to lose anyway :) |
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| 22:17.28 | mikma | ~framexml |
| 22:17.29 | purl | Official: (Mac) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.dmg, (Win) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.zip. Compare: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 22:28.00 | Hirsute | Can you change the spells on the Shammy totem bar while in combat? |
| 22:29.10 | DWSR | Don't think so |
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| 22:37.25 | foxlit | I've been lisped :( |
| 22:37.56 | foxlit | In that I'm going to have to end up releasing a new version of an addon that differs solely by two parenthesis characters. |
| 22:38.09 | Kaso | that sucks |
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| 22:44.15 | foxlit | ")), ...)));]]" |
| 22:46.02 | Shirik | agrees |
| 22:46.29 | Thunder_Child | *Sigh* i need a large RAID i have 500gb of usable space acroos 7 HD's and i hate to see them go to waste |
| 22:48.44 | Shirik | http://translationparty.com/tp/#682802 |
| 22:48.46 | Shirik | I understand now |
| 22:48.50 | Shirik | The Force is October 5 |
| 22:49.39 | Adys | see i thought it was bad "May" would become "fifth month" |
| 22:49.41 | Adys | but |
| 22:49.52 | Adys | how the fuck does MAY become MONDAY and then OCTOBER |
| 22:50.09 | Shirik | I have no idea how that happened |
| 22:50.14 | Shirik | I understood the "May" part |
| 22:50.18 | Shirik | October just ... appears |
| 22:50.43 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#683106 |
| 22:50.44 | Adys | See |
| 22:50.45 | Corrodias | http://translationparty.com/tp/#683035 |
| 22:50.48 | Adys | this makes a LOT more sense |
| 22:51.45 | Corrodias | oh noes, infinite loopeh! http://translationparty.com/tp/#683166 |
| 22:53.03 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#683321 > any other infinite loop |
| 22:53.16 | Thunder_Child | mine simply stoped going |
| 22:53.17 | Thunder_Child | http://translationparty.com/tp/#683218 |
| 22:53.18 | Shirik | rofl |
| 22:53.21 | Shirik | <3 Adys |
| 22:53.25 | Adys | thats cide |
| 22:53.31 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 22:53.31 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
| 22:53.46 | Adys | he didnt add it :( |
| 22:54.47 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#439602 |
| 22:55.43 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#683604 ouch |
| 22:56.15 | Thunder_Child | odd, http://translationparty.com/tp/#683656 |
| 22:56.36 | mikma | wah wah, uiparent.xml error, wah wah |
| 22:57.37 | Adys | Shirik: oh my god |
| 22:57.38 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#683744 |
| 22:57.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Nargiddley (n=nargiddl@125-239-0-165.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 22:58.19 | Adys | "Yo dawg I is the Japanese translator" |
| 22:58.29 | Shirik | wtf where did the ü come from |
| 22:58.44 | Adys | its the "u" |
| 22:58.47 | xilcoy | http://translationparty.com/tp/#683727 |
| 22:59.19 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#683986 |
| 22:59.26 | Adys | "Breeding is quite boring" |
| 22:59.34 | Adys | Where the fuck did THAT come from |
| 22:59.58 | Corrodias | certainly not japan? |
| 23:00.41 | Thunder_Child | ...it isnt even trying anymore http://translationparty.com/tp/#684143 |
| 23:00.45 | xilcoy | I hate it when I have to raise the skinny elephant. |
| 23:01.15 | Shirik | And the Saxophone! |
| 23:01.18 | Cloudwolf | lol and the saxaphone? XD |
| 23:02.00 | Cloudwolf | awww jesus was a jew doesn't maek something funny |
| 23:02.20 | Adys | Cloudwolf: http://translationparty.com/tp/#684315 |
| 23:02.30 | Cloudwolf | lol whut.... |
| 23:02.50 | Adys | hes there |
| 23:02.51 | Adys | watching you |
| 23:03.18 | Cloudwolf | wtf now its trying for me i did vadka is not a taco.... then it says tacos are not vadka... |
| 23:03.26 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#684420 |
| 23:03.29 | Adys | WHAT THE FUCK. |
| 23:03.49 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 23:03.59 | Olison | nice Adys |
| 23:04.01 | Olison | you ddi good |
| 23:04.03 | Olison | did* |
| 23:04.12 | Cloudwolf | what is the point of this website any way |
| 23:04.28 | Adys | I dont know but whatever it is its working |
| 23:05.15 | Thunder_Child | to be amusing |
| 23:05.23 | Adys | to annoy Cruciformer |
| 23:05.29 | Cloudwolf | i htink i killed it |
| 23:06.29 | Cloudwolf | it is doubtful that this phrase will ever reach equilibrium :D |
| 23:06.32 | Cloudwolf | http://translationparty.com/tp/#684621 |
| 23:07.03 | Adys | Olison: http://translationparty.com/tp/#684795 |
| 23:07.17 | Olison | rofl |
| 23:08.54 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#684987 |
| 23:08.55 | Adys | classy |
| 23:09.33 | Cloudwolf | :D you broke it |
| 23:10.22 | Thunder_Child | http://translationparty.com/tp/#685144 |
| 23:11.03 | xilcoy | http://translationparty.com/tp/#685201 |
| 23:11.08 | xilcoy | Light must be arrested! |
| 23:11.55 | Cloudwolf | xilcoy |
| 23:11.57 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 23:12.01 | Cloudwolf | http://translationparty.com/tp/#685136 |
| 23:12.27 | cbreak | indeed! He's kira. |
| 23:12.39 | Cloudwolf | thats why yours is funny xilcoy to me |
| 23:12.52 | Cloudwolf | cus i just made one that says deathnote about a milliion times |
| 23:13.05 | Cloudwolf | heres the end result |
| 23:13.14 | Cloudwolf | actulay its still trying to calculate |
| 23:13.29 | Cloudwolf | actualy just click it i think peopel might get mad with the end result lol |
| 23:13.55 | Cloudwolf | my knife -deaht note -DEATH NOTE -Death Note- deaht note deaht note repeat death note 50 more times add 10 more times and then put omaigoddo connection with the insertion of notes at the end |
| 23:14.03 | xilcoy | lol |
| 23:14.28 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#685539 |
| 23:14.52 | Cloudwolf | epic win |
| 23:14.56 | Cloudwolf | i think the translator is mad at you |
| 23:16.10 | Shirik | funny thing is |
| 23:16.20 | Shirik | Japanese is like JPEG, it's ridden with lossy compression |
| 23:16.29 | Shirik | I think that's the primary cvause of a lot of these phrases :P |
| 23:17.30 | Corrodias | i don't think they even have plural words |
| 23:17.48 | Corrodias | quantity is apparently not important? i don't know |
| 23:18.51 | Shirik | They have one-word sentences |
| 23:19.00 | Corrodias | die. |
| 23:19.07 | Shirik | That's not a sentence :P |
| 23:19.18 | Corrodias | it is too. it's an imperative. |
| 23:19.27 | Shirik | Sentences in english have both a subject and a verb |
| 23:19.35 | Corrodias | the subject is an implicit "you" |
| 23:19.36 | Adys | thousands of people sentenced to death disagree with you Shirik |
| 23:19.41 | Shirik | ... |
| 23:20.15 | Corrodias | http://www.brighthub.com/education/languages/articles/30283.aspx |
| 23:20.30 | Cloudwolf | adys did you see mine?> |
| 23:20.47 | Adys | I dont want to see it |
| 23:20.52 | Cloudwolf | D: |
| 23:20.57 | Cloudwolf | but mine kille dthe translator |
| 23:21.04 | Corrodias | "The word order for an imperative sentence with an understood you subject is also the same as for a declarative sentence in English except that the you is omitted." |
| 23:21.07 | Cloudwolf | didn't even say its doubtful it will reach equalibrium |
| 23:21.18 | Cloudwolf | it just gave up eventualy |
| 23:21.28 | Adys | long sentences get throttled by google |
| 23:21.53 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#686257 translates fine |
| 23:21.56 | cbreak | local execution would be faster |
| 23:22.07 | Adys | it is locally executed |
| 23:22.18 | Adys | you dont send anything to google yourself |
| 23:22.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Wobin (n=Wobin@124-170-216-168.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:23.18 | cbreak | yes, but someone does |
| 23:23.24 | Adys | their serv |
| 23:23.26 | cbreak | unless it's truely local |
| 23:24.29 | Shirik | http://translationparty.com/tp/#686581 |
| 23:24.32 | Shirik | They stole my credit card :( |
| 23:25.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Movix (n=Movix@mail.schiffmann.fr) |
| 23:26.01 | Cloudwolf | it found equalibrium with one of my ones and it said would it kill you to capitalize properly XD |
| 23:26.21 | Shirik | Yeah they look for thiings in your original statement |
| 23:26.35 | Shirik | like "But it's impolite to shout in Japanese, too" if you type all caps |
| 23:26.52 | cbreak | some things are instant equilibriums |
| 23:26.56 | Wobin | what defines as 'equilibrium'? when none of the original words match? |
| 23:27.10 | nevcairiel | when the translation doesnt change anymore |
| 23:27.12 | Adys | when a sentence doesnt change when its translated back and forth anymroe |
| 23:27.13 | Cloudwolf | when it can translate to enlgish to japanese to english again with out change |
| 23:27.22 | Wobin | ah |
| 23:27.29 | Wobin | I wish they'd clarify that =P |
| 23:27.40 | NightHawkTheSane | its pretty obvious when you see it |
| 23:27.42 | nevcairiel | it was pretty obvious imho :P |
| 23:27.56 | Cloudwolf | wtf is omaigoddo |
| 23:28.06 | Adys | "oh my god" |
| 23:28.35 | Cloudwolf | yeah i realize that but why do they ahve it pheneticaly with the steriotypical japanese prenunciation |
| 23:28.48 | Wobin | cause it's hip and cool |
| 23:28.50 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#687025 |
| 23:28.53 | Adys | what the hell now |
| 23:29.12 | Wobin | oh god |
| 23:29.19 | Corrodias | it IS |
| 23:29.22 | cbreak | a flip flop. |
| 23:29.22 | Wobin | infinite loop should be the next translation |
| 23:29.30 | Adys | ~recursion |
| 23:29.51 | purl | To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. |
| 23:29.52 | Adys | PURL |
| 23:29.58 | Wobin | å帰 |
| 23:30.07 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#687184 |
| 23:30.07 | Cloudwolf | http://translationparty.com/tp/#687186 |
| 23:30.08 | Shirik | flip flop? |
| 23:30.09 | Adys | HOW |
| 23:30.10 | *** join/#wowuidev qwesto (i=qwesto@stalin.acc.umu.se) |
| 23:30.11 | Shirik | Like D? |
| 23:30.50 | Shirik | or T |
| 23:30.54 | Shirik | or SR |
| 23:31.05 | cbreak | like politicians. |
| 23:31.09 | Shirik | oh :( |
| 23:31.13 | Shirik | I like D flip flops |
| 23:31.17 | nevcairiel | we used to say RS .. not SR .. /me is confused |
| 23:31.24 | Shirik | really? |
| 23:31.34 | Shirik | Always called them SR :/ |
| 23:31.45 | Wobin | Anyway, on a completely different note, has anyone got a good tactic for TotC first phase, the transition between mounted and melee? |
| 23:32.02 | Wobin | As a healer, I always get massacred by the rogue, if she's there, or the group gets wiped out by the hunter |
| 23:32.03 | Dagmar | Make a button to reequip your weapon |
| 23:32.14 | Wobin | aye |
| 23:32.14 | Dagmar | Or rather, make the damn tank use one |
| 23:32.29 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#687375 |
| 23:32.37 | Adys | 2, 22,222 right-angled triangle, the square of the hypotenuse of the next two corresponding to the angle of |
| 23:32.39 | Dagmar | That's the thing that'll nail you most often... The tank swinging a lance. |
| 23:32.43 | cbreak | do you even have to use that lance thing? |
| 23:32.48 | Wobin | yes |
| 23:32.53 | Wobin | to mount initially |
| 23:32.56 | Dagmar | If you've like to be on a mount for the first phase and not be roflstomped, yes. |
| 23:33.02 | Wobin | I've never tried removing it once mounted |
| 23:33.32 | Dagmar | It'll dismount you |
| 23:33.43 | cbreak | I did manage to mount again after mine died once |
| 23:33.45 | Wobin | although the mental image of me racing past an opponent on a wolf, and physically bitchslapping them as I pass is most amusing |
| 23:33.49 | Shirik | 222222222222222 |
| 23:33.57 | Wobin | CLOTHESLINE! |
| 23:34.14 | Wobin | cbreak: yeah, if you can make it to a new mount without being trampled, you'll be good |
| 23:34.21 | Dagmar | cbreak: I just tell people if they're getting low to make for the walls and transition to a fresh mount early |
| 23:34.31 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:34.37 | cbreak | blink is nice. |
| 23:34.40 | Wobin | however, why the -hell- do -we- take damage when trampled, and the npcs don't? |
| 23:34.46 | Dagmar | If you dismount voluntarily, you don't spend _several seconds on your back on the floor saying "stomp mah!" |
| 23:35.30 | Dagmar | Wobin: because their hitpoints don't matter at that phase. You're just trampling them to keep them from remounting |
| 23:35.47 | Wobin | Dagmar: So? If -we- take damage, so should they |
| 23:35.54 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 23:35.58 | Wobin | we should be able to trample them to death, just as they can do to us |
| 23:36.06 | foxlit | Wobin: NPCs have no health :( |
| 23:36.09 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#687821 |
| 23:36.10 | Wobin | FAIL |
| 23:36.11 | cbreak | WoW is an asymetric game |
| 23:36.17 | Dagmar | I mean, it would be fair, but it would also make the melee match way too easy |
| 23:36.18 | cbreak | players have a brain, the NPCs don't. |
| 23:36.23 | Wobin | pft |
| 23:36.24 | foxlit | Why, for that matter, do we get purposefully dismounted? |
| 23:36.28 | cbreak | they have to live with the pittyfull servers blizard provides them |
| 23:36.31 | Wobin | those damn npcs are smarter than some players I've met |
| 23:36.33 | Cloudwolf | wait did world of warcraft just give me a quest thats been removed fromt he game!? |
| 23:36.37 | Dagmar | foxlit: because it wouldn't be fair to keep trampling all three of them |
| 23:36.42 | mikma | [02:34:32] [T] [Winder]: LF 2 helers 4 dps for naxx 25//militery, sap, kel left//linl aschiv |
| 23:36.49 | foxlit | screw fair, I'm there for their epics. |
| 23:36.49 | mikma | [02:34:47] [T] [Mikma]: nice engrish dude |
| 23:37.11 | Wobin | what's that last one? What achievement? |
| 23:37.39 | Dagmar | foxlit: None of this has really slowed down the rate at which we hoover up epics |
| 23:38.12 | Wobin | eh, I agree |
| 23:38.12 | Wobin | who the hell needs to do naxx? |
| 23:38.12 | foxlit | Dagmar: until you have an incompetent tank |
| 23:38.12 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#688031 |
| 23:38.12 | Wobin | Just do normal TotC |
| 23:38.12 | Adys | anyway. |
| 23:38.12 | Wobin | and grind that over and over |
| 23:38.20 | Dagmar | foxlit: That would be why I pay 8g for giggles in normal mode |
| 23:38.25 | Wobin | The fact you can fly in after death at any point... |
| 23:38.30 | mikma | wobin: everyone does naxx |
| 23:38.34 | Wobin | and the gy is so close... |
| 23:38.50 | foxlit | Wobin: I'm a self-righteous healer. |
| 23:38.57 | Dagmar | I love seeing the tank realize about 15s into the melee that he's been swinging a lance |
| 23:39.14 | Wobin | I reckon the lance thing is stupid |
| 23:39.27 | Wobin | just have it automatically equip on mounting ffs |
| 23:39.34 | Wobin | and automagically disappear on dismount |
| 23:39.46 | Wobin | it's a vehicle, it's not -that- hard |
| 23:39.52 | Dagmar | I figure if you can't manage to equip a weapon at the right time, you need to go back to tiddly winks |
| 23:40.06 | Wobin | Dagmar: It's just pointless |
| 23:40.13 | Dagmar | No, it's hilarious |
| 23:40.29 | Wobin | Dagmar: It's just pointless |
| 23:40.32 | Dagmar | It's something people haven't really had to do all that often or in a long while, and so they screw it up |
| 23:40.38 | Dagmar | Fail to pay attention and die. |
| 23:40.43 | Dagmar | That's the byline of ToC |
| 23:42.04 | Cloudwolf | lets see what happens if i rick roll the translator |
| 23:42.41 | Dagmar | See if it can make sense of these Bono lyrics on this damn Hulu commercial |
| 23:42.47 | mikma | cloudwolf: someone did it |
| 23:42.53 | foxlit | It's unfair to the melee |
| 23:42.53 | Cloudwolf | I'm in the desert, I'm not and I will come to you, I have to avoid contact is planning to ignore. |
| 23:42.54 | Cloudwolf | O.o |
| 23:42.59 | foxlit | I could in theory do the entire instance with a lance. |
| 23:43.09 | foxlit | and no dead gnomes would be the wiser. |
| 23:43.21 | Dagmar | Someone would notice |
| 23:43.26 | Dagmar | Those lances are *big* |
| 23:43.43 | foxlit | But I'm a tree. |
| 23:43.53 | Wobin | hehe |
| 23:46.56 | Cloudwolf | lol what the hell.... http://translationparty.com/tp/#689276 |
| 23:49.58 | mikma | hehe |
| 23:50.05 | mikma | i have a serious problem with the browsers i have ^^ |
| 23:50.17 | mikma | Firefox 3.5.x doesn't display those urls |
| 23:50.25 | mikma | and Chrome is just laggy when WoW is open |
| 23:50.29 | Dagmar | It does. |
| 23:50.40 | Dagmar | You've broken something on your machine. |
| 23:50.42 | mikma | not on me :O |
| 23:50.59 | mikma | it shows me the empty box |
| 23:51.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Mr_Rabies (n=Mr_Rabie@pool-98-110-148-146.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:51.09 | Dagmar | I installed 3.5.2 here this morning. |
| 23:51.15 | Dagmar | It's pulling up those URLs fine |
| 23:51.41 | mikma | hmmh |
| 23:51.47 | mikma | i'll just disable all my plugins |
| 23:52.04 | mikma | well, i do have some weird issues with youtoob + firefox, too :D |
| 23:52.15 | mikma | firefox doesnt want to load google's cache |
| 23:53.18 | mikma | now it works |
| 23:53.53 | mikma | hah, it's AdBlock Plus that prevents that stuff |
| 23:55.46 | Wobin | aw man, BRK1000 is alliance only! =( |
| 23:57.52 | mikma | wobin: whats that? |
| 23:58.14 | Wobin | The tribute weapon Blizzard made for BigRedKitty |
| 23:58.38 | Cloudwolf | can i get a link wobin>? |
| 23:59.16 | foxlit | "+1 even though you needlessly trash clowns. We work hard for our money, and I'm crying on the inside. " |
| 23:59.58 | Cloudwolf | 3.2 added a nice glitched quest into the books :P |
