IRC log for #wowuidev on 20090803

00:00.09Adyshttp://winehq.org/download
00:00.17niceguy777sweet thanks
00:00.32Adys(canonical is really fucking annoying with their bullshit stable policy)
00:01.03kd3meh, looking forward to getting my new netbook so I can wipe ubuntu and install f11 on it
00:01.13tekkubinstable bullshit is dangerous though
00:01.24tekkubnever know when it might burst into flames
00:01.31tekkuband burning poo don't smell good
00:01.50sacarascBecause of stable policies, half the people who come into #mplayer get told to compile a new version.
00:01.59Industrialcasts Explosive Shit on tekkub
00:02.04niceguy777lol playonline will not give me my keycodes back so i can't play my old game
00:02.15Industrialoh, Shot, sorry :E
00:02.25ScytheBlade1lol
00:02.36kd3>.>
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00:03.20niceguy777lost the book in a car crash all my stuff was in the back of the car.
00:03.42Industrialniceguy777: I'm learning to play guitar!
00:04.00Fiskerkd3
00:04.02FiskerNEMESIS
00:04.03niceguy777lol
00:04.28niceguy777Not i want to sing only
00:04.52Industrialsigh ill just leave it there :|
00:04.55IndustrialFisker: your turn
00:05.15niceguy777lol
00:05.53Fiskeri'll develop air guitar hero Industrial
00:06.35Industrialmake it work with something like a glove
00:06.47Fiskereasy
00:07.06Industrialso you can make it feel like you really are holding a guitar!
00:07.06tekkubnintendo power glove
00:07.17niceguy777lol
00:07.22Wobinhehe, that'd be great
00:07.23Fiskernaw Industrial
00:07.32Fiskerthen it wouldn't be "air guitar hero"
00:08.20niceguy777you know if they made gloves that could let you feel things people would only want the for sex games.. sad
00:08.34tekkubthat's what nintendo needs to do, make a wii remote holder glove, plug it in and it can sense when you move fingers around
00:08.43tekkuband when you move your hand
00:10.03Industrialtekkub: so you can play sex games?
00:10.05Industrialsad
00:11.01niceguy777lol
00:11.18Industrialniceguy777: why are there numbers in your nickname?
00:11.49niceguy777i would only do that if you would win a sweet girls love... RL love lol
00:12.11niceguy777why not
00:12.43Industrialthats not an answer thats a question.
00:13.05tekkubIndustrial: or is it?
00:13.10tekkubwait that was one too
00:13.13WobinYou sure?
00:13.52Industrialtekkub: thats not really derailing my question though, its just meta discussion :p
00:15.09Industrialbored
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00:16.19niceguy777hmm i don't know why i didn't it 777 is just too random had to do it.
00:18.07niceguy777>.>did* i hands make me type stuff it wants to type... lol
00:18.27niceguy777lol
00:18.31niceguy777f it
00:20.33niceguy777anyone one know any crazy stuff on the net?
00:20.44Torhalniceguy777: You, apparently.
00:20.55niceguy777hmm
00:22.21poisonlol
00:22.26bleeterpoison: http://tinyurl.com/lx7ujw
00:22.54poison>.>
00:25.46poisonhttp://www.freakradio.org/ free radio you may not like it...
00:26.45Wobinwoah, ANA-GRAMMER
00:26.47Wobinwtf?
00:26.58Wobinfail on spelling =P
00:31.01poisonF spelling i don't care
00:31.31WobinYou totally should
00:31.45TorhalCompletely. Utterly.
00:31.46TorhalShould.
00:31.54WobinOtherwise people will not take you seriously
00:32.38poisonmy school didn't so hell I'll try to fix what that don't care to fix
00:32.58WobinSo.. you blame other people for your lack?
00:33.04WobinWell done =P
00:33.05poisonlol
00:35.37poisonblame.. ha they know they know what they did.
00:37.10poisonBut.. whatever
00:37.25bleeterWobin: kyle and jackie o got the arse :)
00:37.53Wobinahahaa
00:38.17bleeterWobin: the best bit is the 2day press release talking about how they're going to take a look at their 'principals (sic)'
00:38.26bleeterie, they have no principles and they know it ;)
00:38.49WobinThat's their whole schtick
00:39.28WobinI mean, god, "Lets get a 12 year old on national radio, and ASK HER ABOUT HER SEXUAL HISTORY"
00:39.36WobinTHAT'S THE BEST IDEA EVER
00:39.51Wobiner 14 year old
00:40.19Wobineven without the 'big reveal' it was a utterly stupid idea in the first place
00:40.39WobinHello! She's legally a minor!
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00:44.08poisontalking about school i payed people to help me fix spelling and i got more out of that in one month then the full time in school
00:44.16poisonWTFever
00:45.04Krapsnews flash: second life is annoying
00:45.04Wobinpoison: Actually, the inital comment I made, wasn't made to you =) It was to the website that Bleeter's link went to =)
00:45.53poison>.> ha
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00:48.02bleeterpoison: you paid people, and yet it didn't work!
00:48.30bleeterI guess unless you're a native French speaker, then 'payed' might be excusable
00:48.52Fiskerslaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout
00:48.54Fiskerget him
00:49.14mikmadives in and protects wobin
00:49.59Fiskerhits mikma in the face with the large trout
00:50.05mikmaimmune
00:50.33p3limdoes blizzard have a solid border texture?
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00:50.41p3limusing it as the edgefile for a backdrop
00:51.26mikmagametooltip?
00:51.49bleeterpoison: please don't /msg me uninvited
00:52.18mikmairc needs a message invite?
00:52.47bleetermikma: on freenode it's considered poor netiquette to /msg without request/invite
00:53.16bleetermikma: many people are in lots of #'s, and if everyone did uninvited /msg to everyone else... it gets quite messy
00:53.19p3limi talk to people directly
00:53.42p3limatleast my notifications work better that way :p
00:54.40mikmableeter: .. you are serious, arent you?
00:54.59poisonK
00:57.46bleetermikma: I can tell you've never been the victim of unintentional support bombs
00:58.01Wobinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFabjc6mFk4&feature=player_embedded
00:58.06Wobinawesome for a 47 year old =)
01:00.47mikmableeter: i have actually :)
01:01.07mikmain another network people have the habbit of picking channel opers when they join and message them
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01:08.19bleetermikma: maybe it's my being in #pidgin and a couple of other high traffic/visibility #'s that make me more touchy about that piece of netiquette ;)
01:09.11ajmitchbleeter: it's bad when they pick the first name on the list
01:09.31ajmitchneeds to change nick to something starting with z
01:13.02mikmableeter: highpopulated channels do have that disadvantage, i admit
01:13.08bleeterajmitch: you'll then get hit with the idiots who have an inverted list
01:18.04bleeterhttp://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9136179/Fake_ATM_doesn_t_last_long_at_hacker_meet
01:18.09bleeterapologises to Wobin
01:18.56Wobinbleeter: eh as long as it doesn't ping me in more than one channel, it's fine =P
01:19.57IndustrialWobin: ping
01:20.03IndustrialI'm so funny
01:20.15Wobinnot =P
01:20.22poisonDING!
01:20.44poisonoh yeah i can't play
01:20.44IndustrialGRATS!
01:20.49Industrialaw
01:29.50Fiskerslaps bleeter around a bit with a large trout
01:57.00batrickanybody here go to DefCon?
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02:03.09Temsigh
02:03.14Tem"wats ur hp unbuffed"
02:03.33Tem>That question is asinine and doesn't accurately represent my ability to tank this heroic.
02:03.44Tem"does 2 if we dont want 2 wipe"
02:04.19Tem>[The Immortal],[Glory of the Ulduar Raider]
02:04.22ajmitchpeople were tanking heroics fine with 20k HP when wrath first released
02:04.26Tem>Fuck off
02:04.31Tem>/ignore
02:11.17Industrialtoday I pugged with a druid that was doing 1.4k dps
02:11.29Industrialthen I tested my auto attack dps on a dummy
02:11.42Industrial1.8k, hands off the keyboard (enhancement shaman)
02:11.43Industriallulz
02:12.19Industrialnn
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02:15.04Fiskerdamnit Industrial
02:15.05Fiskerit's 4am
03:00.41poisonSzandora LaVey is so cute
03:01.06poisonha ha ha
03:11.48Mikkblinks
03:11.49Mikkno
03:13.56poison>.> bored
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03:24.13Fiskerdamnit Industrial
03:24.25Fiskernotifying you about it being 4am didn't seem to help as it's now 5am
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03:46.43mikmahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCkOVr1SJGg
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04:46.02Zinzuhey everyone
04:46.24Zinzumy friend and me, we're trying to write an addon in which the user has to link an item in an editbox
04:46.31Zinzuis that even possible?
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04:56.19mikmazinzu: a whatwhat?
04:56.31Zinzuok so
04:56.33Zinzuthis is the idea
04:56.40Zinzui make an editbox in my addon
04:56.41Zinzuin xml
04:56.50Zinzuand then the user links an item into like
04:56.57Zinzulie in the normal chat window
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04:57.33Zinzulike*
04:58.19mikmayeah its possible.
04:58.40Zinzudoes it depend on the settings of the editbox or so?
04:58.58mikmahow do you want to link the item there?
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04:59.21Zinzujust the "normal" way
04:59.26Zinzuyou point to an itemin your bag
04:59.28Zinzushift click it
04:59.51mikmahook the function and be horrified
04:59.58mikmathats the only way
05:00.04Zinzuok
05:00.14Zinzulol
05:00.22mikmamomento
05:00.22Zinzuok ill think of another way then ty :)
05:00.41Shirikwhy the fuck is it so hard for programs to have their own settings
05:00.58Aquashit happens
05:01.00Shirikwhy does Internet Explorer, Pandora, and Windows Messenger ALL USE IE's proxy settings
05:01.16ScytheBlade1because they use IE?
05:01.19Aquabecause they are all use microsoft products
05:01.26ScytheBlade1Steam does too
05:01.29mikmazinzu: drag&drop is your best way without hooking
05:01.34Aquathey all embed
05:01.36Aquai.e.
05:01.42ShirikAqua: Pandora is not a Microsoft product
05:01.44Shirikand neither is Steam
05:01.50ScytheBlade1... which is why *I* mentioned
05:01.57Aquayea, but the pandora product uses adobe air doesn't it?
05:02.09ShirikAdobe Air is also not a Microsoft product
05:02.23Zinzudrag & drop?
05:02.29sacarascShirik: Yes it is!
05:02.46Aquaright, but adobe air has IE embedded...
05:02.50Aquaergo
05:02.53sacarascAdobe and Microsoft are actually the same company! Follow the money trail, man!
05:02.57ScytheBlade1lol
05:03.10Zinzumikma, so the user drags the item into the editbox and drops it there?
05:03.21mikmazinzu: hooking can be found here:  http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=mikma&path=%2FRibbon%2FRibbon.lua
05:03.24ShirikThis is impossible
05:03.27ShirikAdobe makes good products
05:03.27mikma8zlmost at the top
05:03.32ShirikMicrosoft makes good betas
05:03.38mikmagah
05:03.43Aquawindows 7 isn't bad...
05:03.53ShirikWindows 7 is also not released
05:03.59ShirikWhen it's released it will become bad
05:04.08Shirik921020
05:04.17ShirikThat's my authenticator code, fyi
05:04.18Aquameh, i beg to differ, alook at the trend, Windows ME blew, and XP was solid
05:04.19Shirikgo haxor me
05:04.26sacarascThey'll comment out the makeOSWorkRight().
05:04.27Zinzuty
05:04.37AquaVista Blew, 7 will probably be solid
05:04.51sacarasc2k was solid.
05:05.08Shirik2k was a myth
05:05.15ScytheBlade12k was amazing
05:05.15sacarascI liked 2k.
05:05.16Aquawindows 2000 was uber stable
05:05.17ScytheBlade1and remains amazing
05:05.21AquaI will say that
05:05.22ShirikI really miss the difference between 2k and ME
05:05.23ShirikLike
05:05.33ShirikHow can you call something "Millenium edition" and then have a 2000
05:05.36Shirikwtf is the difference
05:05.37ScytheBlade1And will likely remain the longest I've ever used any one MS OS
05:05.42bleeter2K was hot. XP was 2K SP.. 2 or 3. Plus some extras.
05:05.44Aquame was 98+ goo
05:05.47bleeterkinda
05:05.50sacarascOne was dos based, one was nt based.
05:05.52mikmazinzu: http://github.com/tekkub/buffet/blob/28b3787393ffec4284f57ce81bc57d2f2e7dfc70/Config.lua <- drag & drop
05:06.02ShirikThat isn't what I'm asking
05:06.09ShirikI'm asking where the hell you get the naming from
05:06.20ScytheBlade1sacarasc: was not DOS based. A better analogy is that DOS is to ME as grub is to (linux distro here)
05:06.20sacarascAnd the millennium started in 2001!
05:06.27Zinzuomg ty so much :D:D
05:06.28ShirikMicrosoft has a horrible people coming up with names
05:06.31ShirikI mean
05:06.33ShirikLook
05:06.34ShirikWindows 7
05:06.41mikmazinzu: hmm. no wait. thats not it
05:06.42Aquayou know why they did that...
05:06.50Shirikis version 6.1.7100 (+)
05:06.59ShirikThey could have even made it match up
05:07.01ShirikBUT THEY DIDN'T
05:07.26mikmazinzu: no, it was in cork..
05:09.28A-KO6.1.7600 :P
05:09.50mikmazinwell, cant remember, it was some tek addon
05:10.21Zinzuok ill try to look it up :D
05:11.12Zinzuty
05:11.18Shirikzinwell?
05:11.30mikmazinzu: http://github.com/tekkub/cork/blob/978de4ac5ba27bacc44188bf726d04c466db44bb/modules/WellFed.lua
05:11.51mikmazinzu: "OnReceiveDrag" at the bottom
05:12.40Zinzuawesome :D
05:30.38Wobinoh man xkcd ><
05:31.17Corrodiaswhat the
05:31.27Corrodiasis that a reference to a story about a french kid?
05:31.42WobinYou've never read The Little Prince?
05:32.04Corrodiasi haven't. i take it he's not french.
05:33.04WobinIt's a french book, yes
05:33.18Corrodiasthen why would you think, from what i said, that i haven't read it? o_o
05:33.34Corrodiasi mean, you were right, but my reference seems to indicate that i -am- familiar with the material to some extent
05:33.35ShirikI don't get it at all
05:33.39WobinThe... author is French
05:34.10WobinThe kid isn't necessarily identified as so, except that the book is in French
05:34.32bleeterRENAULT
05:34.54Corrodiasi believe you were jumping to a conclusion, then
05:34.56mikmapeugeot
05:35.17Corrodiasif it is a french book about a kid, to say it's a book about a french kid is not far off
05:35.20bleetereiffel tower
05:35.30batrickso sweet that Heroes of Newerth (DOTA fork) has a linux client
05:36.21Wobinanyone want a beta invite?
05:37.27mikmato what
05:37.46Cairenn^^
05:40.35NightHawkTheSaneto HoN? eh, i wouldn't say no...
05:43.16batrickI got an extra one too if someone needs one
05:43.22batrickjust private message me
05:43.34WobinNightHawkTheSane: what email to use?
05:43.47NightHawkTheSane@gmail
05:43.54Wobinhokies
05:43.59NightHawkTheSanedanke :)
05:44.17WobinGREAT SUCCESS!
05:44.18WobinNightHawkTheSane at gmail.com: invitation sent.
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05:44.41NightHawkTheSanereceived! Greater success!
05:44.49WobinThere's also the facebook link, but I dunno if that's still valid or not =)
05:44.59NightHawkTheSaneshudders... facebook..
05:45.51Shiriktackles batrick
05:46.22A-KOhow would you store item ids in a table but still be able to reference them by index value and not a key? something like, table = { [1234] = "blah" }; print(table[1234]); if I put quotes around 1234, I can index it by key, but rying to do table[1] doesn't return "blah" like I would expect....Or do you have a better way of storing a table of items that works across localizations?
05:47.44Shirikthat's because "1" does not equal 1
05:48.04Shiriklua> t = {["1"] = "a", [1] = "b"}; print(t["1"], t[1])
05:48.05lua_botShirik: a, b
05:49.35A-KOyes but if I do something like t = { ["whatever"] = "blah" }; print(table[1]) it will print blah
05:49.55bleetergah can't you gtalk users have audio enabled??? :P
05:50.05NightHawkTheSanenow, the fun question, does the HoN beta client crash more or less than the RoM release client.
05:54.32WobinNightHawkTheSane: "Yes"
05:56.51A-KOeh nm
05:56.53A-KOI found a way to do it
05:56.56A-KOokay then
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06:16.50batrickWhat I hate most about HoN is searching for DOTA equivalent items
06:16.54batrickfucking makes me rage
06:17.08batrickspend 2 minutes with my thumb up my ass searching the contents of all the shops
06:17.26Wobinthere's an equivalency table on the forums
06:17.33Wobinbut you still end up searching the shops
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06:20.07batrickShirik: sup pal?
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07:07.05jnwhitehbatrick: Wobin: I just forget about the DoTA items and work from scratch.
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07:14.02Elkanoclad, what were they talking about?
07:15.40jnwhitehElkano: HoN
07:15.53jnwhitehand not being able ot match up HoN recipes with the old DoTA versions
07:17.22Elkanowasn't HoN way worse than DotA?
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07:20.32WobinI never played DotA to compare
07:21.23Elkanonever played HoN so far ^^'
07:22.42digmousejust wait for League of Legends
07:22.58digmousewhich Pendragon and Guinsoo took part in
07:23.24jnwhitehPeople who are hardcore doTa players dont' like HoN
07:23.25jnwhitehit seemes
07:23.33jnwhitehits a bit less of a team game
07:23.37jnwhitehI mean, it doesn't need to be
07:23.42jnwhitehthose that play as a team win
07:23.49Elkanowrt, anyone played DemiGod?
07:23.50jnwhitehbut there's a lot of soloability.
07:24.14Wobin=( every time I see the name 'DotA', I get that damned Basshunter song stuck in my head
07:24.32Cairennthank you Wobin! I thought I was the only one!
07:24.48WobinIt's TERRIBLE
07:24.55Wobinforms a support group.
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07:25.03aesirElkano: Yes, re: Demigod
07:25.05jnwhitehhhaha
07:25.10jnwhitehi mean i do as well
07:25.12jnwhitehbut i like it =)
07:25.14digmousedemigod = epic fail
07:25.28aesirthe term 'epic fail' = epic fail.
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07:25.41Wobinwow, meta
07:26.36jnwhitehspeaking of
07:26.39jnwhitehhon anyone?
07:26.46jnwhitehbefore i get to work for the day?
07:27.00Cairennthinks jnwhiteh is her hon!
07:27.05jnwhiteh:P
07:27.16aesirNot I, but if anyone wants HoN keys, pm me an email addy
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07:27.44jnwhitehooh.. 1.33.0 update
07:27.50jnwhitehmaybe they FINALLY fixed the Glacius/Tempest issue
07:27.53jnwhitehcries
07:28.05digmouseanyone familiar with Games For Windows Live?
07:28.29aesirOnly in that I've got a couple of games that require it in order to run.
07:29.21Elkanoso you think HoN would be worth checking out?
07:29.31jnwhitehElkano: I've enjoyed it.
07:29.54Elkanogiev linkz
07:30.26jnwhitehask aesir :P
07:31.06aesirI've some beta friends keys still, so if you want you can have one. Or two.
07:31.11aesirI'm not playing it myself.  But I know folks are interested in it
07:32.37Elkanoah, it's from the people that made savage
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07:43.24Elkanook, they do have a nice server ^^ 5mb/s *rrr*
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07:46.45krkais there any website that lists costs of skills from class trainers?
07:48.57Elkanowowhead dos on the skill's page
07:49.48krkaah thanks, found it
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08:24.24bleeterkd3: holy crap... I just noticed I've now got both glyphs. i wonder in which update this happened ⸘‽⸘‽⸘‽⸘‽⸘‽⸘‽⸘‽⸘‽⸘‽⸘‽⸘‽⸘‽
08:24.32bleeterer
08:25.31bleeter⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘I wonder in which update this happened ‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽
08:25.37Kalrothwat
08:25.42nevcairielwhats with your funny chars?
08:25.59bleetergnaborretni and interrobang!
08:25.59nevcairielare you out of real question marks?
08:25.59Kalrothdey r funnay lol!
08:26.20bleeterUTF+2E18 for the gnaborretni
08:26.37Kalrothhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gnaborretni
08:26.38bleeterwell, that's what I've managed to find in my charmap
08:26.55bleetergnaborretni's the inverted interrobang
08:26.59bleetersuitable for Spanish
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08:47.52krkaanyone know when the 3.2 patch is expected?
08:48.24bleetertwo weeks before it's ready
08:48.48sacarascSounds about right.
08:49.24ccox|AVa week before 3.2.2
08:56.12krkayour circular relative dates mean nothing to me!
08:59.25KalrothWithin 2 weeks, krka
08:59.29bleeterKalroth, nevcairiel: apparently the secret is Unicode 5.1
09:00.00Kalrothbleeter: My chat client barely supports UTF8, so I'd never see UTF16/24 :p
09:00.19KalrothYour bangs were only little boxes here
09:00.19bleeter~comfort Kalroth
09:00.20purlThere, there, Kalroth.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
09:00.44Arrowmasteryou cant use any unicode format other than UTF-8 with irc
09:00.55bleeterKalroth: your chat client is fine, it's your OS that sucks :P
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09:01.15KalrothI'm guessing you can if you got some gay Mac client, Arrowmaster!
09:01.22Arrowmasterno
09:01.46Kalrothwell bleeter obviously think he can :p
09:02.04nevcairielyou can just send utf16 glyphs through irc, but no client will show it properly :p
09:02.18Arrowmasterunicode 5.1 is a revision of the unicode standard
09:02.20nevcairielUTF8 is so awesome because ASCII is a subset inside of UTF8
09:02.28bleeterwell... I just sent from rxvt-unicode+screen+irssi to pidgin, and back again
09:02.28Kalrothyup
09:02.33bleeterand it totally worked
09:02.45Kalrothno it didn't :)
09:03.01Kalroththe characters you write locally aren't parsed by the server
09:03.10Kalrothso you don't see how it fucks up
09:03.18Arrowmasterutf-8/16/24/whatever all use the same characters from the unicode standard just encoded different ways
09:03.18Kalroth(or something?)
09:03.28bleeterthey were correctly interpreted by the target client, and sent back
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09:03.49Kalrothwell it's a pidgin thing then :)
09:04.02bleeterpidgin AND screen+irssi+rvxt-unicode, eh?
09:04.14bleeter<PROTECTED>
09:04.20bleetah⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘⸘Unicode 5.1‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽
09:04.26Kalrothscreen+irssi+rvxt probably just passes the bytes
09:04.27bleeteryou're saying that doesn't work? :P
09:04.32Kalrothyes bleeter
09:04.35nevcairielits just garbage
09:04.35Kalrothit doesn't work
09:04.40Cairenngrowls at the lines of spam
09:04.44Arrowmasterand most likely theres no font on windows that has that character
09:05.00sacarascThey look good here!
09:05.06nevcairielmy fonts do have the gnaborretni and the interrobang
09:05.10nevcairielas long as its real utf8
09:05.27Cairennit's all garbage on my screen
09:05.36krkai see a bunch of ? and ! and Unicode 5.1 in the middle
09:05.49krka?! on top of each other, and up side down
09:05.53Kalrothyes
09:05.59Kalrothhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrobang
09:06.00CairennI see square boxes with numbers in them, and ? with ! through each other
09:06.25KalrothI see double square boxes :p
09:06.28nevcairielthe interrobang looks good, but the gnaborretni is just a box
09:06.35bleeterhttp://www.users.on.net/~bleeter/pix/non-functional-interrobangs-and-gnaborretnis.png
09:06.56bleeterKalroth: those boxes are your system failing hard
09:07.04Kalrothfailing hard, eh? :)
09:07.10bleeterkrka: that's it, interrobang and gnaborretni
09:07.29KalrothI'd think it would be my IRC font and not my system
09:07.43Arrowmasterwhat client?
09:07.46bleeterinterrobang's the singularly most useful punctuation mark available. it was of no use in Spanish without it's inverted form, the gnaborretni. Unicode 5.1 fixes this.
09:07.50Kalrothxchat
09:07.55Arrowmasterwhat os?
09:08.00Kalrothwindows
09:08.03Arrowmastermost likely it makes use of font linking
09:08.24Kalrothwat
09:08.24Arrowmasterthe font you selected doesnt have most characters so it finds the character in another font that does have it and uses that
09:08.34KalrothI higly doubt that
09:08.49Kalroththis version of X-Chat is from 2004
09:08.58Arrowmasterthen why can i see CJK glyphs using fixedsys font in mirc
09:09.01nevcairielI'm using tahoma as my irc font, being a MS core font, i would think it has most unicode glyphs
09:09.08KalrothI doubt it supports font linking :)
09:09.09bleeterit's the OS
09:09.10Arrowmasterjust about everything does font linking
09:09.14Arrowmasterexcept wow
09:09.16bleeterhttp://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.1.0/
09:09.42KalrothI'm not on about 5.1, bleeter
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09:09.48bleeterKalroth: why are you using a 2004 version of xchat?
09:09.57Kalrothbecause it went shareware after that
09:10.04Arrowmasterso?
09:10.15Kalrothand because it works
09:10.30Kalrothexcept for random and annoying UTF characters :)
09:10.39pb_ee1the fact that it's open source justifies the use of 24 years-old software.
09:10.51nevcairielOnly the windows build is shareware, you can grab the sources and built it yourself
09:10.58nevcairielor get a 3rd party build
09:11.05KalrothSure, I could just get Y-Chat
09:11.12KalrothBut as I said, it works just fine
09:11.22bleeterI'd still be highly surprised if any Windows font has gnaborretni
09:11.23KalrothI don't see a problem using 5 year old software if it works
09:11.38krkal2irssi
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09:11.44Kalrothbleeter: Name me one english sentence where it's required :)
09:11.45Arrowmaster[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\XChat]
09:11.45Arrowmaster"installed"=-
09:11.47bleeterI know it's got interrobang, you just need to install enough of the fonts off the installer CD for it to appear (I've never bothered to work out which, precisely)
09:11.59Arrowmasterput that in a .reg file and stick it in your startup dir
09:12.16bleeterKalroth: Why should I have to‽
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09:12.26bleeterKalroth: :P
09:12.28nevcairielI got the interrobang at least
09:12.39nevcairieleven if it looks totally weird
09:12.56nevcairielif you don't know what its supposed to be, you would have to guess really hard =P
09:12.57KalrothArrowmaster: I know how to bypass the shareware dialog/warning, that's not the problem :)
09:12.58bleetermikma: yeah the default windows version's fairly suck
09:13.26bleeterCairenn: btw, sorry ;)
09:13.37Kalrothbleeter: because you've spent the last 30 minutes arguing for a character that noone uses in the english language :p
09:13.49KalrothOther than to spam or annoy :)
09:14.30Kalrothhttp://buffalo.craigslist.org/mis/1284172652.html
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09:15.24bleeterKalroth: just because you're stuck in the pre-1960's
09:15.42bleeterKalroth: just because you're stuck in the pre-1960's typographical conventions, doesn't mean everyone else has to
09:18.15Kalrothbleeter: Ì nævær såíd thät ït wås rëqüírëd tø üsé śtándård cháräctérś, jüśt thåt ït míght ånnóÿ péöplé whën ýöü dó
09:18.23Kalrothn't
09:18.45Cairennbleeter: forgiven
09:21.00krka¡ssɐ sʞɔıʞ ʇı 'ʎpɐǝɹ1ɐ 8-ɟʇn ǝsn ʇsnظ
09:21.21Kalrothsee, krka gets it
09:21.36sacarascDo the snow man now!
09:22.09Kalroth\o\ \o/ ^{ krka }^ \o/ /o/
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09:38.42bleeterKalroth: you only find it annoying because (a) your OS sucks and doesn't have the glyph (b) even if it did, it's a very crappy implementation. I cannot be blamed for your OS suckage.
09:41.30Fiskercool story bro
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10:02.25Shirikall my hard drives failing at once
10:02.34Shirikfirst my external
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10:03.07Arrowmasterwhat brand?
10:03.34Shirikhell if I know
10:03.36Shirikcame with my Toshiba
10:03.43Arrowmasteryou still probably dont come close to my 72% failure rate on western digitals
10:04.21Shirikwell anyway, night
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10:08.26Shirik|zZzOk I have two drives in here
10:08.30Shirik|zZzone's a Fujitsu, one's a Toshiba
10:08.39Shirik|zZzthe Toshiba is reporting seek error rate of 0
10:08.55Shirik|zZzthe Fujitsu, 2747
10:09.01Shirik|zZzwhat units that is, I don't know, but it doesn't sound good :P
10:10.46Shirik|zZzFortunately that's the one I really don't care about soooooooo
10:10.54Shirik|zZznight
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13:07.06WobinAdys: which one is the right look?
13:07.44Wobinwow, you crashed Opera =P
13:07.57Adysi didnt crash it
13:07.59Adysits full of ads
13:08.03Adyshave you seen how bad it is ><
13:08.10Wobinthat's kinda terrible
13:08.14Adysalso I think the right look is two red blocks
13:08.52Adys.. i suppose it is anyway
13:08.54WobinSo everything but Opera 10, Konq 4.2, Dillo and Safari4 get it right
13:09.00Adysits from a terribad reduced testcase
13:09.03Wobinthat's not too bad
13:09.15Wobinsorry, Opera10 Ubuntu
13:09.21Adysopera gets it fine
13:09.28Adysdillo i have no clue
13:09.31Adysthey both just suck
13:09.38Wobinhttp://browsershots.org/screenshots/188b7056b529fb34ddf8b93eda100ebe/ ?
13:10.15Adyshttp://api.browsershots.org/png/original/84/848d308131347cc62ed62fbb3d3b44de.png
13:10.18Adyswhat the fuck is this taskbar
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13:14.55WobinThat.. is a -lot- of crashed Operas =P
13:15.03WobinBoom Crash Opera, even
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14:02.45p3limI want to embed pastey.net!
14:02.50p3limpossible? :)
14:05.23Fiskeromg i'm killing you p3lim
14:05.56p3lim:D
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14:11.40p3limYou're cute when you're angry ^_^
14:11.42dardacksigh, to buy runed orbs or hope the patch is tomorrow, cause if not tomorrow prolly 3 weeks
14:12.00p3limIts not tomorrow
14:12.15dardackyou sure?
14:12.30p3limIf it were tomorrow the whole patch would be on the background downloader, wouldnt it?
14:12.55dardackhow much is the whole patch cause we have almost 400mb and lots of times the last bit is tuesday
14:12.57p3limTheyre not done testing Colosseum
14:13.07p3limShould say a percentage on the downloader
14:13.08p3limnot sure
14:13.27p3limI dont use the downloader myself, I forsee corrupted data by using it
14:13.49dardackyea i use the wowwiki patch mirros myself
14:14.15nicoli_si think normally they done put 100% of the data on the background one
14:14.15dardackbut still almost 400mb already
14:14.28p3limIts more than that
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14:14.46p3limHELLO!
14:14.58dardacki'd agree with that, but lots of time's the last part even upwards of 150mb has been on the patch day
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14:23.31Mikker the downloader is torrent based. it uses cryptographically secure hashes to verify the integrity of the files.
14:23.37Mikkhow the heck do you expect corruption? =P
14:27.19KalrothIf you got crappy hardware maybe
14:27.20Elkanopidgeonhole principle and hashes ;)
14:28.45Mikkwell, downloading from joe mirror with a 32-bit CRC has ... quite a bit larger failure rate!
14:28.52Mikkassuming you even bother to check the CRC
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14:41.53Shirik|zZzI don't understand why people bother to check software CRCs
14:42.00Shirik|zZzfor data transmission
14:42.32ShirikI can understand md5/etc. for security, but there's no point in testing a file's integrity, unless you think it actually got corrupted on the computer itself, which is fairly unlikely
14:45.34ShirikChecking to see if one of my drives is failing. I come across "Reallocation Event Count"
14:45.46Shirik"Count of remap operations (transfering data from a bad sector to a special reserved disk area - spare area). The raw value of this attribute shows the total number of attempts to transfer data from reallocated sectors to a spare area. Unsuccessful attempts are counted as well as successful."
14:45.50ShirikOne of my drives: 0
14:46.11ShirikOther drive: 451936256
14:47.07ShirikError correction code errors: 2097512
14:47.08Shirik-_-
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14:48.47nicoli_slol, i love those error code errors
14:50.13Fiskerslaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout
14:50.33ShirikThe drive I actually care about shows 0s across the board though
14:50.37Shirikso I'll just ignore it for now
14:51.30AquaI have a 500gb drive i wish i could replace the motor in, its got some stuff on it, that I'd love to have, but its not like that important
14:51.46Aquaext to impossible though
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15:22.38ShirikI swear to god, gcc makes up its own errors
15:22.49Shirikhttp://wowi.pastey.net/119909/3:4
15:22.54ShirikI totally can understand the unhighlighted lines
15:23.06Shirikbut seriously, the third line is random, and the fourth line is totally caused by the third
15:23.28ShirikIt's like "eh, you don't have enough errors. Have some more."
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15:27.45Thunder_Childplease Shirik, do not take the lords name in vain
15:28.17Shirik:(
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15:33.24NightHawkTheSaneheh, today's shirt woot amuses me.
15:34.06CodayusHeh, that is a nice joke.
15:35.36AquaLexicon of Power: Biggest waist of development time ever?
15:36.00NightHawkTheSanenah
15:36.07NightHawkTheSanei'm sure you could come up with bigger ones.
15:36.30mikmaold ironforge
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15:36.37NightHawkTheSane^
15:37.13NightHawkTheSanealthough, both of those, i'm sure were learning experiences, which means probably not really a waste.
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15:41.05Thunder_Childhttp://www.sundayat10.com/?num=209
15:44.52mikmahttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=87167.0
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15:55.36ShirikWho's a C++ genius here
15:55.45ShirikIs this standard? http://codepad.org/bJ3J1o9V -- they all get initialized to NUL
15:55.47ShirikNULL
15:56.00NightHawkTheSaneShirik: you?
15:56.22Shirikif I remove the member initializer-list from the constructor they are uninitialized and values are not guaranteed
15:56.27ShirikNightHawkTheSane: Someone else :(
15:56.47NightHawkTheSanesorry :
15:56.49NightHawkTheSane\
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15:56.58Shirikbut thanks for the support! ^_^
15:57.33CideShirik, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/734958/c-empty-paren-member-initialization-zeroes-out-memory
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15:57.59Shirikneat
15:58.05Shirikthat makes my code generation so much easier ^_^
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16:13.14Thunder_Childhttp://www.sundayat10.com/?num=240
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16:14.07Lunessastation
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16:20.28Cruciformerhey kids
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16:26.01Shirikcurious, Cide
16:26.10ShirikI don't think I've yet come across an inconsistency between C++98 and C++03
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16:32.10Cidewell, there's your first then!
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16:34.51Cidebrb
16:34.55CruciformerJuno Reactor is such good music to code to
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16:36.55nicoli_swhat do they sound like?
16:37.01nicoli_sim always looking for good new music
16:37.32Thunder_Childthey were in one of the matrix movies
16:37.36CruciformerJuno Reactor are the JS Bach of electronica. Pretty complex sound scapes, but still with a good discernable melody (its not just an electronic wank).
16:37.57Cide-okay
16:38.02Cruciformerquite good beats etc. they did a fair bit of music for The Matrix movies.
16:38.16Cruciformeryeah what TC said
16:38.20Cide-someone tell me why my computer thinks it's 12:38pm right now
16:38.32NightHawkTheSanebecause somewhere, it IS?
16:38.35durcynbecause you're terrible at time zones
16:38.38Cide-not in this time zone
16:38.47NightHawkTheSanethen, i'm with durcyn
16:38.48Cide-UTC+01:00 stockholm
16:39.03Cide-which is where I am, and it's certainly not 12:38pm
16:39.25Cruciformerno its closer to 17:38
16:39.31Cide-18:38
16:39.39Cide-(dst)
16:39.43Cruciformerah
16:40.02Cruciformersame time as me then
16:40.10Cide-very strange
16:40.11Cide-oh well
16:40.13Cruciformerwhich reminds me tit may be time for an evening nap
16:40.22Cruciformers /tit/it/
16:42.04LunessaCide-: CMOS battery all fuxored?
16:44.53Fiskerslaps Cide- around a bit with a large trout
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16:47.58Kasowow, one of the mount macros on wowwiki is a masterpeice of lua-shortening
16:48.43Cide-no clue
16:53.18durcynyou should probably get rid of that /etc/localtime link to /usr/share/zoneinfo/Factory then
16:55.32mikmakaso: ^^
16:55.54mikma<PROTECTED>
16:56.15Kasobetter than that
16:56.34mikmathe two above it?
16:56.41Kaso<PROTECTED>
16:57.01Kasousing ternary operator to avoid having to use if then end is brilliant
16:57.19Kasothe only thing he missed is that it could hav saved eight char with the [""] around Dalaran and Wintergrasp
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16:58.55KarlKFIwellt hat it it polutes the global namespace
16:59.05Kasowell yes
16:59.32Kasobut if we're looking from pure shortening ability
16:59.50KarlKFIdoesnt' have to be purely short, jsut has to be under the limit :P
17:00.21Sentriwhat is the simplest way to determine if player has just joined a battleground
17:00.32KarlKFIspeakign of.... what are those G,G,G F,F,F for? populating in another macro?
17:00.55mikmayou need to replace them with mount slots
17:01.29KarlKFIahh, slot #'s
17:01.29mikmag = ground, f = flying
17:01.30KarlKFInifty
17:01.33KarlKFIya
17:02.13Shirikbad Kaso
17:02.17Shirikdo not call it ternary operator
17:02.19Shirikit is not one
17:03.03ShirikPop quiz: "foo and bar() or 1" -- foo is true, what is the result of the expression?
17:03.25Shirikhint: I already gave you a hint
17:04.42KarlKFIthe result of bar() if not nil or false.
17:04.59KarlKFIotherwise 1
17:05.21Shirik:)
17:05.49Shirika more fun one
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17:06.47LunessaShirik: Every time I hear
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17:07.01Lunessa"Pop quiz"  I want to sya "Shoot the hostage."
17:07.09ShirikThat's where I get it
17:07.10Shirikfrom
17:07.21KasoWell i know its a buggy peice of crap that doesnt work like a ternary operator should, but that's clearly what its trying to be, and what else can we call it?
17:07.35LunessaJose.
17:07.51ShirikAnyway: a = 0; function bar() a = a + 1; return a == 0; end; function baz() a = a + 1; return a; end; print(foo and bar() or baz());
17:07.54ShirikWhat gets printed?
17:08.13kd3lua> a = 0; function bar() a = a + 1; return a == 0; end; function baz() a = a + 1; return a; end; print(foo and bar() or baz());
17:08.13lua_botkd3: 1
17:08.19Kasothats cheating
17:08.49kd3hey, he asked
17:08.53KarlKFIprogrammers are all cheaters
17:09.27KarlKFIit's in our nature to look for the most efficient solution to a problem
17:10.02Shirikwhat
17:10.05Shirikthat shouldn't be right
17:10.17Shirikdid I confuse myself?
17:10.21KarlKFIlol
17:10.22Shirikoh whoops, I meant for foo to be true
17:10.24Shiriksorry :(
17:10.41Shirikfoo = true; a = 0; function bar() a = a + 1; return a == 0; end; function baz() a = a + 1; return a; end; print(foo and bar() or baz());
17:11.13Shirikso obviously the answer is not 1
17:12.33Thunder_ChildKarlKFI, at least say it like it is and use lazy
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17:20.22alestaneIt is inserting itself into the login process at some point that I have tremendous difficulty even pinpointing, let alone removing.
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17:23.08A-KOwhat's a good, reliable way to get the quality of an item in a bag? parse the item link for the color? It seems that the item quality that gets returned is -1 if the item stacks....anyone have any ideas?
17:30.06TristanianGetInventoryItemQuality A-KO ?
17:31.09Lunessaalestane: Scanner Software is jacking with logins?
17:31.32alestaneLunessa: It always runs at login. I want it to run on demand only.
17:32.05Lunessaalestane: I had that problem too - I uninstalled the package and then ran the installer for just the scanner driver.
17:32.37alestaneIt's an all-in-one.
17:33.13ScytheBlade1This is confusing
17:33.15LunessaWindows version?
17:33.33ScytheBlade1There were a peak of 144k people playing Counter-Strike today
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17:33.35alestaneOS X.
17:34.02LunessaOh - alestane Yeah.  That piece of software is so fucked I haven't even begun to finish cursing it's name.
17:34.43A-KOTristanian: that only works for equipped items
17:35.27alestane!api GetContainerItemQuality
17:35.27lua_botCould not find a match for 'GetContainerItemQuality'.
17:35.57A-KOGetContainerItemInfo() returns a quality value, but for items that stack it returns -1, so it's completely useless for determining item quality
17:36.10A-KOeven though on items taht don't stack, it returns a proper value (0-6)
17:36.31TristanianI must admit I haven't personally tested it, but supposedly you can call it for an inventoryslot as well
17:37.21alestaneI keep hoping to discover that someone else has made some open source replacement for the HP suite.
17:37.43Tristaniantry using ContainerIDToInventoryID(bagID) to get the slot
17:38.18alestaneThat would find the quality of the actual bag.
17:38.30A-KOyeah...
17:38.53A-KOthe only thing I can think of is by checking the item link and parsing it
17:38.58A-KOand checking the color
17:39.09A-KObecause I can get the item link of the container item :P
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17:39.47A-KOthough I don't know how I would do that as I'm not in a large understanding of how to work with strings in lua...
17:40.16alestaneTry using GetItemInfo and see if the third return is still -1.
17:40.28Tristanianblah yeah
17:40.32Tristanianuse GetItemInfo
17:40.35Tristanianon the itemlink
17:40.45A-KOoh hmm
17:40.50Tristanianye :p
17:41.17Tristanianitem should be in your cache I guess, so it will work
17:41.35Tristanianyou should be getting a 0-7 value
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17:53.41kd3yay for provider outages
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17:53.54kd3still got another 2 hours of expected downtime... when will I drop out again?
17:56.41A-KOokay Tristanian that worked
17:56.44A-KOretardedly enough
17:58.36FiskerOh boy Bibi
17:58.38kd3grr
17:58.41kd3ptr login server busy
17:58.42FiskerWhat a strange coincidence!
17:58.43Fiskerhttp://www.wow.com/2009/08/03/patch-3-2-confirmed-for-this-week-on-the-french-forums/
17:58.43kd3lemme log in
18:00.01zenzelezzwhere's peppy? :-(
18:00.12alestaneOn vacation, zenzelezz.
18:00.26alestaneAnachronizing creatively, so no IRC.
18:00.32zenzelezzfor how long?
18:00.38alestaneAbout a week IIRC.
18:00.44zenzelezznooo
18:00.49alestaneYou'll have to flirt with someone else for a while.
18:00.50Thunder_Childavoiding you zenzelezz
18:01.05zenzelezzwinks suggestively at alestane
18:02.08alestanedid not see that coming, no, and shocked, yes he is.
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18:06.37Fiskerslaps zenzelezz around a bit with a large trout
18:06.40Fiskeryou
18:06.50ShirikProblem with: // WARNING: DO NOT MODIFY BELOW THIS POINT
18:06.59ShirikI can't remember if I wrote that or that's how I was given it :/
18:07.01zenzelezzFisker: yes, me
18:07.05Fiskerwhere's the point Shirik ?
18:07.38ShirikRight about over here somewhere ^
18:07.44Shirik:( I was slightly off
18:07.45Shirikthat was hard
18:14.09foxlitClearly you must sign your stupid comments from this point forward
18:14.29foxlit/ THIS CODE DOES THINGS. TERRIBLE THINGS. THINGS THAT WILL KEEP YOU AWAKE AT NIGHT. -- Shirik, 20/20/2020
18:15.07Shirik20/20
18:15.10Shirikepic date
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18:15.40foxlitIt's np, there are 42 more years to get the calendar altered.
18:16.32Shirikum
18:16.41foxlitYes.
18:16.45LunessaI used to add comments like /* If you don't know what this is doing, DON'T FUCK WITH IT. */
18:16.51Shirikok
18:17.04foxlitYou figure out what that 20 is out of and get back to me.
18:17.05ShirikLunessa: you're evil
18:17.16LunessaShirik: Yes, I am.
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18:18.26LunessaBut after getting reamed by a VP, a director, another director, my boss, and all of MIS because some douche checked out my code, modified it, and pushed it out to 15 million users without going through QA and /I/ got blamed... my comments got more caustic. :P
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18:29.55foxlitgrr, Blizzard
18:31.12foxlitThey just can't make a mac application that doesn't leak several console log entries per second.
18:32.28Fiskerhttps://emea.microsoftstore.com/UK/Microsoft/Windows/Windows-7 <-there you go
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18:41.27nicoli_sman i miss nirvana
18:41.35Fiskerslaps nicoli_s around a bit with a large trout
18:41.37nicoli_slines like "im bored, but i have some glue" are just classic
18:41.46Fiskeri miss you nicoli_s :(
18:42.08nicoli_sso remedy it by showering me with sc2 gifts
18:49.10nicoli_scome on fisker i know you got some new info
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18:51.00Fiskernaw nicoli_s
18:52.18nicoli_s<Fisker> also the koreans have said on the korean forums that they'll put some of the exhibition matches from SC2 online
18:52.20nicoli_slies
18:52.31Fiskernaw
18:55.08nicoli_swell i wasnt here when you said that, so i had to crawl through the irc logs to find, so you lied when i asked for new info!
18:59.09nicoli_sso where are these exhibition matches you speak of?
19:03.01Fiskerit's barely next week yet
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19:03.21FiskerAnd knowing Blizzard they'll probably spend the next 20 weeks making commentary and localization
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19:33.18LunessaIt rubs the lotion on its skin - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ToNZHG5KHw
19:33.50sacarascThey have a video, eh?
19:34.27LunessaYes.  It's awesome.
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19:39.45Cairennawwww  http://www.peachygreen.com/wildlife/bobcat-and-fawn-find-friendship-after-fire
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19:41.02zenzelezzCairenn: :)
19:41.08Cairennyeah
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19:42.11nicoli_smy gf awwwed pretty hard at that
19:43.48Lunessa... And in three years, kittieh will eatz bambi
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20:16.28alestane~P + ~ Q == ~(P•Q) ?
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20:18.53DewinHmm... I just found a bug in my version of chown.
20:19.14alestaneDoes it detect the bindings for various spells, and send those?
20:19.17alestanemt
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20:26.58alestanelua> return table.insert({}, '1')
20:26.58lua_botalestane: No output
20:34.48Shadowedwe can't access any of the GetVertexColor/GetStatusBarColors in secure right period right
20:35.05alestaneFor snippets?
20:35.18Shadowedyea
20:35.24alestaneNo, they're not protected.
20:35.46ShadowedNo you can, or no you can't
20:35.59Shadoweder wait
20:36.12alestaneIf we exposed those, we'd also have to change it so you couldn't set them on a protected frame during combat.
20:36.31alestaneBut you can use CallMethod to call out to insecure code and set them there.
20:36.44Shadowednot looking to set them, looking to get them
20:36.59foxlitThat's the thing
20:37.02foxlitYou can't get them.
20:37.07foxlitBecause if you could, zomgexploits.
20:37.09Shadowedyea thats what I'm double checking
20:37.10Shadowedshame
20:37.34foxlitHey, separation of responsibility. Your secure code shouldn't have anything to do with your display code.
20:37.47alestaneAnything you actually need to do, you should be able to do from insecure code.
20:37.54Shadowednot in this case :p
20:38.15Shadowedplaying with manipulating nameplates while in combat, but have to be able to identify them and change their type while in combat
20:38.29Shadowedwhich means checking GetStatusBarColor from secure code
20:39.05foxlitwts "nameplate1" "nameplate2" units? :)
20:39.15Shadowedindeed
20:40.07Shadowedunfortunately, since the odds of that happening are low :p
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20:55.10TopTop18Question: I'm trying to create a frame in lua, my first frame get's created properly, but the second with a somewhat different syntax doesn;t get created, but the test message get's fired. Piece of code: http://toptop18.pastey.net/119921. Any help is appreciated!
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20:55.45durcynTopTop18: scope.
20:58.01Arrowmasterare you running that function twice?
20:58.12TopTop18Once
20:58.20TopTop18Only one test message appears
20:58.30TopTop18Durcyn, what;s wrong with the scope?
20:58.51Arrowmasterwhats the syntax of the other frame that does work?
20:59.23durcynTopTop18: if you're trying to reference it by 'adminframe' outside of that function, that is
20:59.48PhilemonAre you sure the frame is not being created? Does /print getglobal(FF_DKP_Manager_Frame_Admin) throw an error?
21:00.06PhilemonWith quotation marks, rather.
21:00.41foxlitcomplaints at /print
21:01.08TopTop18trying it now
21:01.10TopTop18brb
21:01.15Arrowmasteror just /print FF_DKP_Manager_Frame_Admin
21:01.21Arrowmastergetglobal shouldnt be used
21:01.27TopTop18(don;t ahve a print function xD)
21:01.30foxlitwhines some more at /print
21:01.31PhilemonEither would work
21:01.39durcynwhat do you mean you don't have a print function
21:02.12Arrowmasterok /run print(FF_DKP_Manager_Frame_Admin)
21:02.25foxlitbetter.
21:02.27PhilemonYeah, what arrow said.
21:02.38foxlitBut relatively pointless: if the chat message appears, the CreateFrame must've run.
21:04.27TopTop18Arrowmaster, returns a table
21:04.33TopTop18and some hexadecimal stuff
21:04.44Arrowmasterthen the frame was created
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21:05.05TopTop18Sec getting you the code of the frame that does get created
21:06.03TopTop18http://toptop18.pastey.net/119922
21:06.12TopTop18It's a bit bigger though
21:06.34ZorbaTHutwoot, exalted with darkmoon
21:06.38TopTop18Creates a button instead of a normal frame, and uses texure indstead of backdrop
21:07.30TopTop18Hmm I'll add a piece to force it to be visble
21:09.20Krapshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MLMVkz-Rh4 i approve of this Miley Cyrus song because:
21:09.21Kraps1. its not her style
21:09.23Kraps2. LOTS of audio processing
21:09.24Kraps3. she mentions Jay-Z
21:09.25Kraps4. its pretty snappy
21:10.00durcyndoes it feature autotune
21:10.36Kraps<Kraps>2. LOTS of audio processing
21:11.03durcynyes, which is why i asked you to clarify as to the use of autotune
21:11.10Krapsah
21:11.15Krapsdont think so
21:11.27NightHawkTheSanedurcyn: probably does
21:11.31foxlitoh god my ears.
21:11.39foxlitturn it off. turn it off!
21:11.46Krapsi cant quite tell tbh
21:12.12Fiskerslaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout
21:12.34Krapshands Fisker a chillaxative
21:12.41NightHawkTheSaneit's crap-pop, so there's something like a 150% chance that autotune was used
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21:14.42Fiskeri will end you Kraps
21:15.02Krapsdont hate on the kiddies
21:15.29Krapsi think disney = the lich king
21:15.39durcynKraps: do me a favor?
21:15.48durcynKraps: kill yourself
21:15.53TopTop18Hmm the frame is shown and is visible
21:16.08LunessaSo much hate.
21:16.12Krapsdurcyn: no u?
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21:16.23durcynKraps: i followed your link!
21:16.34Krapsnobody told you yo!
21:16.37Krapsto*
21:16.48NightHawkTheSanespeaking of auto-tune.. winston churchill never rocked so much: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW6jW9y59JY&feature=channel_page
21:17.45TopTop18Can;t find out why I can;t see the frame :S
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21:20.32TopTop18Ah found it!
21:20.38KrapsNightHawkTheSane: sweet
21:20.56TopTop18No double slashes needed in a table I think
21:21.13TopTop18It had created an frame without bg and edge files
21:21.38Krapsjfk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmcCzB8fwLo
21:22.02Fiskeri want to sleep Kraps
21:22.50KrapsFisker: lolololol
21:24.33KrapsMLK, very inspirational http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0F4iXEzOqY
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21:27.53LunessaLOL - # Mathiel in Darnassus has finally earned himself enough money from your repair bills that he was able to buy himself an anvil.
21:28.26NightHawkTheSanemust be a freaking azerothian-diamond studded titansteel anvil...
21:28.37alestaneThat's good, I used to have to go to Auberdine to smith stuff.
21:28.52alestaneThere are still very few places in night-elf land where you can smith.
21:29.10LunessaAnd very few you can cook unless you start your own damned fire.
21:29.34alestaneMore though. There is a fire in Astranaar, anyway.
21:30.15theorbtwo...and all cooks can light fires.  Just takes a few seconds, not even an inventory slot anymore.
21:30.34LunessaYeah, but it still sucks.
21:30.39NightHawkTheSanethats why i like org. bonfires fucking everywhere
21:30.57LunessaAnd in ironforge you can pull up to any fire pot and cook away.
21:31.05theorbtwoNightHawkTheSane: That's because ogres are afraid of the dark.
21:31.17Endogres? or orcs?
21:31.45NightHawkTheSanei dont recall seeing many ogres in org.
21:32.03EndI don't think there are any, but I could be wrong
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21:32.12theorbtwoEr, um, whoops.
21:32.13NightHawkTheSanethere might be one in the tavern by the AH
21:32.58CideNightHawkTheSane: more like a plastic anvil
21:32.58LunessaI should kill Thrall while wearing a Gordrok Ogre Suit
21:33.06Cidefor $0.01
21:33.15NeoTronNightHawkTheSane: it's darnassus. no one is in darnassus :P
21:33.55NightHawkTheSane... hm, true enough. :P
21:34.39LunessaI go there a lot right now - to stock up on shit for Dire Maul runs while grind rep with the greenskins.
21:35.54Cidesurely killing thrall will net you lots of reputation with org
21:36.24LunessaI have lots and lots of rep with Thrall, all of it bad.
21:36.45LunessaNo matter how many times I rescue that guy and reunite him with his human lover.
21:40.29foxlitNew plan: whine endlessly at blizzard for "faction-free servers", where everyone would be on the same side.
21:40.37TopTop18Hmm wondering, can you cook on the lava in ironforge?
21:40.51foxlitThose "qq vanilla!"  guys have had too much stage-time.
21:42.06Lunessafoxlit: Can I have some of that rage-pipe you're smoking?  I'm feeling a little run-down and it'll pick me up.
21:42.26foxlitsure, plenty to go around.
21:42.35foxlitIt's procrastination-based, I'm afraid.
21:42.57LunessaOh well.
21:46.42LunessaEven better for making my day feel like a winner - someone dredges up a year+ old thread where I was /wrong/ and asks for more info.
21:47.14foxlit<Nelson>Ha ha!</Nelson>
21:48.30Lunessa<Ralph>I bent my wookie.</Ralph>
21:48.38nicoli_slunessa: just dont be wrong and you wont have that problem anymore
21:48.52LunessaEasier said than done.
21:49.07foxlitI've found that simply removing content from the equation makes wonders.
21:49.19foxlits/makes/works/
21:49.48foxlitWhenever you feel like saying anything, just replace it with an outrageous sound-bite.
21:51.32LunessaActually, I was /sort/ of right, but someone found an elegant way yo do what I decided was better served with an AddOn.
21:51.56foxlitWhat was the issue?
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21:59.22Krapshttp://www.ustream.tv/channel/world-of-warcraft-marathon
22:02.09VonhintenHOME`LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOBdTP9ZB-I
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22:21.15Lunessafoxlit: sorry - work intervened - someone wanted to automatically mail themselves all items of a certain quality.
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22:32.23TopTop18Hmm is there a way to set a fontstring to say pure black? Cause the way gamefontnormal looks now is like it's between the two frames, although it's level is on artwork
22:34.45LukianLunessa, hmm I wonder if bulkmail2 can do that :>
22:35.36LunessaLukian: Oh man, I'm going to spike your punch so we can take incriminating photos of you.
22:35.50Lukianawesome!
22:41.54Lukianwonders if Lunessa will end up in said photos :>
22:42.12LunessaNo.
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23:15.10foxlit"First-In-Never-Out (FINO) asynchronous buffers"
23:15.32cbreakthe famous /dev/null?
23:15.53foxlitwrite-only memory spec sheet
23:16.36cbreakwrite only memory is good for confidential data
23:22.19LunessaMmmm.. data I've written, never to be read again...
23:24.11End~wowalert
23:24.12purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
23:29.50AdysDid I mention
23:29.53AdysI love filters
23:29.58AdysI love chaining django filters
23:29.59Adyshttp://db.mmo-champion.com/quests/?itemrewards__teaches_spell__created_item__required_skill__is_tradeskill=1
23:30.35Adysthis is a single filter that gives a list of every quest that rewards at least one item that teaches a spell that creates an item that requires a skill that is a tradeskill
23:31.08Bibi-good, you can breathe now.
23:31.18Adysfuck off, you didn't code that
23:31.43Bibi-of course I didn't, otherwise the URL could be compressed
23:31.56Bibi-and my code wouldn't bug in IE.
23:31.57Adysy'a un truc en http
23:32.01Adysqui s'appelle un GET
23:32.14Bibi-si tu l'inverse ca fait T GAY
23:32.22Bibi-I win.
23:32.26LunessaJust lay them out on the table lads, I'll go get the ruler and you can settle it.
23:32.33Adysalors un GET c'est specifiquement fait pour etre utilise par des applications
23:32.36Adysgenre un browser
23:32.41Bibi-you might need a 2nd table Lunessa.
23:33.16Krapsrogue q&a
23:33.17LunessaBibi-: Unless your a goddamned freak of nature, it's not that big. 'sides, a table with 32bit values out to be large enough.
23:33.40Adyshe is a freak of nature
23:33.57Adysevery time he lays it on the table it ends up sticking there and he loses it
23:34.07Adysthankfully his father was a lizard so he grows it back.
23:34.25Bibi-did you notice how this conversation stopped being fun 10 minutes ago?
23:34.43Adysfor you maybe
23:34.58Adysbesides, 24 minutes ago:
23:34.59Adys[02:24:11] <End> ~wowalert
23:35.07Adyss/24/10/
23:35.12Adys~fail purl
23:35.13purlpurl, you Fail!
23:36.45AdysHey, anyone on safari/opera?
23:36.50AdysI need this tested: http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/webkit-overlap.html
23:38.12bleeterdid someone mention compressed URLs? http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2009/07/iterative-web-app-links-got-shorter-and.html
23:40.40nicoli_si've seen that same thing on vbulletin forums lately
23:42.41bleeterwonder if it's violating some google patent hehe
23:52.14Lunessahttp://www.tehgladiators.com/?p=10 - "... The influence of a legendary bong known as the Twin Pipes of "What the fuck I can't feel my face!"
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23:54.24nicoli_slol

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