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| 00:03.27 | Shirik | rawr |
| 00:03.32 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 00:03.36 | Shirik | huggles Gryphon |
| 00:03.40 | Gryphon | huggles Shirik |
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| 00:11.37 | kd3 | hm |
| 00:11.44 | kd3 | looking for a good netbook. anyone have suggestions? |
| 00:12.58 | mikma | bible |
| 00:14.01 | Nechckn | the dell minis are nice, kd3 |
| 00:14.05 | Dagmar | Check under the sofa cushions |
| 00:14.14 | Dagmar | Sometimes they get wedged up under there and are hard to find again |
| 00:14.32 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 00:14.33 | purl | ~pong |
| 00:14.34 | Nechckn | decent power, decent amount of goodies and able to run just about anything a "real" notebook does |
| 00:14.37 | Shirik | I think Pandora just died |
| 00:15.29 | Nechckn | actually have one of those OLPC things and it's okay, but not good for a whole lot |
| 00:19.30 | Cairenn | apparently the new HP Mini 2140 can actually run WoW |
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| 00:23.50 | Nechckn | I wouldn't doubt it, Cairenn the ones here are from like November, so the new ones likely can |
| 00:24.05 | Nechckn | hrm.. I'll need to try it with vanilla wow and see what happens! |
| 00:24.34 | Cairenn | well, apparently my hubby picked one up for me, and he was able to install and run WoW on it, he said it didn't do too bad |
| 00:26.52 | kd3 | twas thinking of an acer aspire. like this one: http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=/qid=/ref=br_1_14/186-0690787-1027331?node=1243621011&asin=B0026P37MK |
| 00:26.58 | kd3 | has some target giftcards he needs to burn |
| 00:27.00 | Cairenn | kd3: http://mydellmini.com/forum/dell-mini-10-discussion/7389-better-hp-mini-2140-dell-mini-10-a.html |
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| 00:33.23 | Wobin | I'm happy with my eeepc |
| 00:33.49 | Wobin | but then again, I've not had any real experience with the others |
| 00:34.44 | NightHawkTheSan1 | same, Wobin, in both regards |
| 00:35.13 | Cairenn | I haven't had experience with /any/ of them, so |
| 00:35.30 | Wobin | We should form a support group =P |
| 00:39.28 | mikma | wobin: eeeepenis ;) |
| 00:39.44 | Wobin | mikma: Mine's a 10" =P |
| 00:41.02 | mikma | wobin: well you're in luck mate |
| 00:41.03 | mikma | wobin: mine is 4.13" |
| 00:41.46 | Wobin | mikma: I have some emails you might want to look at |
| 00:41.56 | mikma | cc to me plx |
| 00:44.16 | Wobin | It might have been redirected to your trash folder |
| 00:44.19 | Wobin | check it =P |
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| 00:45.45 | mikma | let's see now. |
| 00:46.26 | mikma | thanks, there they are |
| 00:46.38 | Wobin | lives but to serve |
| 00:46.50 | mikma | 3x |
| 00:47.06 | mikma | Learn pleasure of having huge hose |
| 00:47.09 | mikma | If you cannot satisfy your woman, we will help you. |
| 00:47.22 | mikma | (apparently they wanna drill my wife, bastards) |
| 00:47.24 | Wobin | Isn't it great how people on the internet just want to -help-? |
| 00:50.52 | mikma | wobin: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/did_you_know_that.jpg <- frame nr. 4 |
| 00:52.06 | Wobin | pÇsı×ÉÇɹ ɹÇÊÇu ı 'Æɯo |
| 00:52.55 | mikma | piss on you too you son of a b****. i'm going back to italia. |
| 00:53.23 | Cairenn | mmmmm, Italia! |
| 00:53.33 | kd3 | thinks of a certain 4koma he's been reading lately |
| 00:53.55 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1TnzCiUSI0 |
| 00:53.57 | mikma | wobin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1TnzCiUSI0 |
| 00:55.26 | Cairenn | oh god, I haven't heard this in forever! |
| 00:55.36 | Wobin | it's been a while =P |
| 00:55.57 | mikma | i can even point you a awesome pc demo which has that one |
| 00:56.59 | mikma | http://phn.joroinen.fi/files/phn_d2-f.zip |
| 00:57.13 | mikma | there's this "oldskool crack" sid at the start with santa on it |
| 00:57.16 | mikma | just press esc ONCE |
| 00:57.27 | mikma | it'll fade away and the demo will start after 10sek or so |
| 00:58.09 | mikma | sec* :I |
| 00:58.49 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/hogger.jpg |
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| 01:22.44 | Fisker | slaps mikma around a bit with a large trout |
| 01:22.59 | Cloudwolf | purl |
| 01:23.08 | Cloudwolf | hi purl |
| 01:23.20 | Cloudwolf | let me guess spelling it wrong :D |
| 01:23.35 | Cloudwolf | no i m not heh |
| 01:23.52 | Fisker | joins mikma at a sleepover |
| 01:24.02 | mikma | ewwwww |
| 01:24.06 | mikma | trolls at my house, no thanks |
| 01:24.20 | Cloudwolf | trolling troll is obviously trolling.... |
| 01:24.32 | Fisker | i'm a blood elf mikma |
| 01:24.46 | Cloudwolf | and im a gnome... |
| 01:24.47 | mikma | good for you, troll |
| 01:24.51 | Cairenn | mmmmm, stawberry daiquiri |
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| 01:34.38 | p3lim | hm |
| 01:35.14 | p3lim | i have a texture frame, how can i hook it so when a texture is set i can get the texture? |
| 01:36.38 | p3lim | more exact, I want to get the texture on the raidicons set on nameplates |
| 01:36.43 | p3lim | when its set |
| 01:39.14 | mikma | sure, why not |
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| 02:01.07 | p3lim | for chat addons, is it possible using ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter instead of hooking ChatFrameN.AddMessage then return the original function with new strings made through gsubs and regexes? |
| 02:01.29 | p3lim | like how, for instance, oChat does it |
| 02:22.13 | Arrowmaster | look at chatter url copy |
| 02:24.58 | kd3 | 11271 |
| 02:25.15 | kd3 | and oof. there's allegedly a new ptr build but I just logged in using the old one |
| 02:25.43 | Dagmar | exploiter! |
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| 02:38.32 | kd3 | lmao. 'cash for clunkers' ad. didn't the government already run out of money? |
| 02:39.02 | Dagmar | Nope |
| 02:39.28 | Dagmar | I just can't wait to see how many people got car loans they coulnd't afford |
| 02:39.51 | Dagmar | ...at a completely crappy 21% interest |
| 02:40.50 | Stanzilla | is target=mouseover in macros supposed to work on partyframes? |
| 02:42.30 | NightHawkTheSan1 | it should work on any unitframe, yes |
| 02:42.47 | Stanzilla | well then something's broken here |
| 02:42.57 | mikma | it's the macro |
| 02:43.22 | Stanzilla | hmm "/cast [mod:shift, target=mouseover] Dispel Magic; Mass Dispel" |
| 02:43.35 | Cairenn | http://www.jeffpalm.com/fox/fox.jpg <== rofl (thanks dolby for the link) |
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| 02:44.34 | Dagmar | I suppose we're assuming 16-bit ints |
| 02:45.58 | p3lim | hm is there some wiki about regexes? |
| 02:46.22 | ScytheBlade1 | p3lim: no, only dark magic and voodoo |
| 02:46.25 | mikma | stanzilla: so umm |
| 02:46.32 | mikma | stanzilla: what are you planning with the macro? |
| 02:46.34 | ScytheBlade1 | (yes, there probably is) |
| 02:47.15 | mikma | stanzilla: /cast [target=mouseover,exists] Dispel Magic; Dispel Magic |
| 02:47.18 | mikma | stanzilla: this won't do? |
| 02:47.19 | p3lim | found it |
| 02:51.44 | Stanzilla | mikma: the plan is to cast dispel magic on my mouseover if I hold shift and otherwise cast mass dispel (i.e. show the green target circle) |
| 02:56.01 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:56.11 | Tem | golly that was hard |
| 02:57.38 | kd3 | no UI changes this build |
| 02:58.14 | Stanzilla | Tem: that's what I use but it does not work on my party frames. (we talked about that before you joined :) ) |
| 02:58.28 | Tem | it should |
| 02:58.57 | Stanzilla | yeah :P |
| 02:59.02 | Stanzilla | that's my problem |
| 02:59.57 | Dashkal | No ui changes? sweet. *crosses fingers for flight on tuesday* |
| 03:00.09 | Dashkal | I just a minute ago finished outland |
| 03:01.45 | kd3 | and eesh. an entire build just to change spell.dbc |
| 03:03.49 | mikma | oh wowzie |
| 03:03.51 | mikma | ~wowalert |
| 03:03.52 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 03:03.58 | mikma | see the eu one atleast ^^ |
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| 03:06.39 | p3lim | Arrowmaster: its what I though, it will only be able to handle the messages, not the channel names |
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| 03:15.36 | Arrowmaster | p3lim: if you want to change the channel names i think you can if you only modify arg4 |
| 03:15.49 | p3lim | whats arg4? |
| 03:16.10 | p3lim | actually, ill just test it |
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| 03:23.46 | p3lim | didnt work |
| 03:24.26 | mikma | :( |
| 03:24.29 | mikma | try again. |
| 03:24.36 | p3lim | tried modifying arg4, returning 'x' instead of it |
| 03:24.59 | p3lim | original string would be [4. testchannel] [nameofchar]: hello |
| 03:25.20 | p3lim | it ended: [4. testchannel] [nameofchar]: [x] hello |
| 03:33.04 | Arrowmaster | then you have another chat mod fucking with it probably |
| 03:33.15 | Arrowmaster | from the framexml code thats just not possible |
| 03:34.08 | NeoTron | anyone having random issues connecting to sites on the net? |
| 03:34.53 | NeoTron | like I can't connect to any wikia.com site but I can ping it.. it's bizarre |
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| 03:39.56 | kd3 | then we're probably down again |
| 03:41.47 | p3lim | Arrowmaster: i have no other chat addon enabled atm |
| 03:42.15 | p3lim | what framexml code are you looking at btw? |
| 03:43.31 | p3lim | what I really want to do now is to change '[#. channelname] [playername]: message' into '(#) playername: message' without using regexes |
| 03:43.33 | Arrowmaster | chatframe.lua |
| 03:44.15 | p3lim | could do it using regexes too, though i'd have to learn how to use them first :p |
| 03:44.36 | Arrowmaster | you cant remove the []'s around the channel name using filters |
| 03:44.39 | p3lim | ive read this doc through now: http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/doc/contrib/regexp.html |
| 03:44.53 | Arrowmaster | lua does not have regexp |
| 03:45.10 | p3lim | so i got basic knowledge of expressions |
| 03:46.06 | p3lim | how ive done it now is that Ive left channels and playernames alone, and changed the global strings for guild, officer etc |
| 03:46.19 | p3lim | though thats a tacky way to do it |
| 03:47.14 | p3lim | i got the link from here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Pattern_matching |
| 03:47.28 | p3lim | (which ive also read through) |
| 03:48.39 | Arrowmaster | http://lua-users.org/wiki/PatternsTutorial |
| 03:48.47 | Arrowmaster | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1 |
| 03:48.59 | p3lim | reading from #5.3 |
| 03:49.25 | p3lim | wait im reading 5.0 manual |
| 03:49.44 | Dagmar | It's cool how Google offers the older versions of the manual up like that |
| 03:51.51 | NeoTron | it's bizarre. if I try to connect to my vent server it works, then doesn't work for a number of tries, and then works again |
| 03:54.48 | p3lim | Arrowmaster: what is %S? |
| 03:54.51 | p3lim | same as %s? |
| 03:55.47 | p3lim | and how do i find [ and ] since its "magic characters"? [[ and ]] ? |
| 03:55.56 | p3lim | or perhaps %[ and %] |
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| 04:02.09 | p3lim | ok found out %[ and %] it was |
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| 05:07.34 | Shirik | RAWR |
| 05:07.40 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 05:08.24 | Shirik | licks Gryphon |
| 05:08.27 | Gryphon | licks Shirik |
| 05:12.50 | Wobin | It's amazing how much Gryph can interact with this channel without even being present =P |
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| 05:20.19 | Shirik | oh my |
| 05:20.22 | Shirik | photoshop killing my computer |
| 05:26.03 | Shirik | TC-Away: ping :( |
| 05:26.10 | Shirik | or anyone that's done HDR with photoshop |
| 05:27.53 | Wobin | yeh? |
| 05:31.19 | p3lim | lua> string.find('Guild', '(.-)') |
| 05:31.24 | lua_bot | p3lim: 1, 0, |
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| 05:32.29 | Shirik | Wobin: You have? |
| 05:32.30 | Jelly_ | hugs Shirik. |
| 05:32.34 | Jelly_ | ~sigh |
| 05:32.35 | purl | *sigh* |
| 05:32.39 | Shirik | hugs Jelly_ |
| 05:32.52 | Wobin | yes |
| 05:32.59 | Shirik | my picture kinda came out like...well...shit |
| 05:33.02 | |Jelly| | How's Shirik???!!!?!?!? |
| 05:33.15 | p3lim | lua> string.gsub('[Guild]', '%[(.-)%]', '(G)') |
| 05:33.15 | Shirik | the "dark" area shows up great in the most exposed shot |
| 05:33.16 | lua_bot | p3lim: (G), 1 |
| 05:33.16 | Wobin | how many exposures were you using? |
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| 05:33.20 | Shirik | about 7 |
| 05:33.25 | Shirik | approx 1/2 stop between each |
| 05:33.27 | p3lim | ok that works, neat |
| 05:33.37 | Shirik | but in the "dark" area in the merged picture, it looks... strange |
| 05:33.40 | Shirik | I guess I'll take an SS |
| 05:33.43 | Shirik | it's hard to describe |
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| 05:34.43 | Shirik | I'm remerging right now because I tossed it :P |
| 05:35.33 | ccox | shirik - I've done a bit of HDR with Photoshop |
| 05:35.51 | ccox | if the pictures have a lot of stuff that moved, it may take a while |
| 05:36.49 | ccox | it does go a bit faster if it doesn't have to align the images |
| 05:37.05 | Shirik | nah, hasn't moved |
| 05:37.17 | Shirik | all 7 shots are of a static thing that was taken from tripod |
| 05:37.23 | ccox | moving people, blowing leaves - taht slows down the math |
| 05:37.28 | Shirik | it's the color that's jacked up |
| 05:38.11 | ccox | did you use RAW or JPEG? |
| 05:38.16 | Shirik | RAW, of course |
| 05:38.20 | Shirik | here is the dark part of the merged image: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/9ad256e4e05357126ad246eae548767c.png |
| 05:38.28 | ccox | if you made adjustments to the images before merging, it can !@#%@#$% up any HDR merger |
| 05:38.46 | ccox | but Photoshop nulls out the RAW settings if you use RAW |
| 05:38.53 | Shirik | here is the highest RAW exposure: |
| 05:38.55 | ccox | (saw that on their forums) |
| 05:39.14 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/8eff5bce98bf6746c6442147b7af782a.png |
| 05:39.19 | Shirik | So it's not like the detail is missing from the original image |
| 05:39.25 | Shirik | it's just something's jacking up during the merge |
| 05:39.51 | Shirik | And no, I haven't modified it. In fact, my modifications never get saved to the file; I use non-destructive modification |
| 05:39.56 | Shirik | but I haven't touched the files |
| 05:40.06 | ccox | check their forums - they ask for samples that don't work |
| 05:40.37 | NightHawkTheSan1 | interesting: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124908121794098073.html |
| 05:40.42 | Shirik | well I'm not sure it "doesn't work" |
| 05:40.45 | Shirik | I've never done HDR before |
| 05:40.51 | Shirik | I really have no clue what I'm doing |
| 05:40.56 | Shirik | so it's very possible I screwed something up |
| 05:41.18 | Wobin | I'm the same way, I understand the basic premise, but the whole process in PS is a black box to me |
| 05:44.51 | NeoTron | ok so here's one massive annoyance with steam. I can't play any of my single player non-networked games because my fios connection is fucked up |
| 05:46.10 | NeoTron | and you brilliantly have to start steam in online mode to be able to turn on offline mode |
| 05:46.15 | NeoTron | which is awesome since I can't start it |
| 05:48.27 | Shirik | there's no way this is right |
| 05:48.29 | Shirik | I have to be doing somethign wrong |
| 05:49.35 | Shirik | wait a second, I think I get it |
| 05:50.27 | Shirik | Do I have to do the tone mapping myself? Like, does photoshop just pull it into a 32 bit image and kinda leave it at that? Because when I jacked up the brightness, the bottom looked fine and the top looked like shit, so obviously all the color information is there |
| 05:50.37 | Shirik | I have to take the next step and adjust the tone mappings myself |
| 05:51.41 | ZorbaGama | in pretty much any serious photography, you have to adjust the levels heavily. I suspect this is not an exception to that |
| 05:52.28 | Shirik | aha! |
| 05:52.31 | ccox | yes, you have to do the tone mapping as another step |
| 05:52.34 | Shirik | I did miss a step in the tutorial :/ |
| 05:52.43 | Shirik | I have to convert it to 16 bit and then it will finish the HDR conversion |
| 05:52.44 | ccox | it creates a HIGH dynamic range image - 32 bit float |
| 05:52.45 | Shirik | I didn't realize that :( |
| 05:52.51 | ccox | I use those for 3D textures and lightmaps |
| 05:53.21 | Shirik | So basically the artifacts I'm seeing are just because there's too much info to display |
| 05:53.26 | ccox | yes |
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| 05:53.42 | ccox | there's a couple of options to change the exposure and the visible range of the image |
| 05:53.52 | Shirik | Yeah but I was trying to use curves and it wouldn't let me :( |
| 05:53.54 | ccox | try the menu in the bottom left of the image window |
| 05:54.08 | ccox | curves on infinity - not a good idea |
| 05:54.26 | Shirik | sorry, bottom left? |
| 05:54.33 | Shirik | oh I see |
| 05:54.40 | Shirik | holy crap |
| 05:54.42 | ccox | the menu there, opens up an exposure slider thingy |
| 05:54.52 | ccox | Shirik just discovered that he has RANGE |
| 05:54.59 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:55.18 | Shirik | I knew it couldn't look that bad! The original shots looked excellent |
| 05:55.35 | Shirik | Give me a break, I only got photoshop a few days ago :( |
| 05:55.56 | ccox | oh, I "got it" 20 years ago |
| 05:56.21 | Shirik | yeah this is awesome :) |
| 05:56.27 | Shirik | <3 |
| 05:56.42 | Shirik | the slider in the bottom is just for view, right? I'm not actually modifying anything |
| 05:56.47 | ccox | Photoshop's HDR merge misses once ina while, but it's pretty solid |
| 05:56.50 | ccox | yeah, that's view only |
| 05:57.05 | ccox | check the adjustments for ways to change the data |
| 05:58.08 | Shirik | I'm not sure I really want to change anything though |
| 06:00.39 | Shirik | LMAO |
| 06:00.53 | Shirik | I just saved the HDR image in case I don't like how it is when I convert it back to 16-bits |
| 06:01.00 | Shirik | It's a 240MB file... |
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| 06:32.31 | Shirik | christ, this is a lot harder than I expected |
| 06:32.39 | Shirik | The HDR image is beautiful |
| 06:32.42 | Shirik | the 16-bit image |
| 06:32.44 | Shirik | not so beautiful |
| 06:35.45 | Dagmar | NeoTron: Weird. I've played Steam stuff (Mainly HL2) while offline |
| 06:39.53 | Corrodias | i'm not sure whether you HAVE to be in offline mode to run anything offline |
| 06:40.10 | Corrodias | i've never tried... and i don't really want to test it >_> |
| 06:40.16 | jaxdahl2 | wait why are you using 16 bit |
| 06:40.36 | Corrodias | and my connection has only been down, like, once since i moved here two years ago, so i don't have any involuntary opportunities to try it. |
| 06:41.17 | Shirik | ccox: Want to critique a picture? ^^; |
| 06:41.39 | jaxdahl2 | or is that per channel |
| 06:41.55 | Dagmar | The fun thing is that I was wondering what he was talking about so I googled HDR and found a new wallpaper |
| 06:42.19 | Dagmar | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:New_York_City_at_night_HDR.jpg |
| 06:42.26 | Shirik | that's a really good HDR picture :/ |
| 06:42.29 | Shirik | I'm on the suck side |
| 06:42.50 | Shirik | I lost contrast in areas I had wished I kept it, but I think it's ok still |
| 06:44.03 | Dagmar | 90% of working with Photoshop isn't really about learning how Photoshop works |
| 06:44.07 | Dagmar | It's about learning how pictures work. |
| 06:44.29 | Dagmar | If you've got an IQ anywhere near what I think you do you'll find you'll learn rather quickly. |
| 06:45.00 | Shirik | well I think this picture came out well enough that I'm willing to post it |
| 06:45.25 | Shirik | it's not quite what I expected |
| 06:45.27 | Shirik | but I still like it |
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| 06:50.54 | ccox | Shirik - sure,, send me the link |
| 06:52.33 | jaxdahl2 | does the |AV mean you're running an antivirus scan on whatever shirik sent you? |
| 06:52.44 | ccox|AV | no, AlteracValley |
| 06:52.53 | ccox|AV | that's why I keep going away for 10-20 minutes at a time |
| 06:52.58 | Wobin | I'd like to see it too, if I could, Shirik |
| 06:53.20 | ccox|AV | shirik - learning to tone map images well, takes some practice |
| 06:53.30 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 06:54.15 | Dagmar | It gets easier every time you do stuff like that. |
| 06:54.15 | ccox|AV | none of the research tone mapping algorithms are great without tweaking |
| 06:54.15 | Shirik | I've been told I should pretty much always use "local adaptation" |
| 06:54.15 | Shirik | but the defaults will never be right |
| 06:54.20 | Shirik | it requires adjustments to parameters and the curves |
| 06:54.34 | ccox|AV | yeah, that one is powerful -but needs a lot of finesse |
| 06:56.08 | Shirik | that's what I ended up using |
| 06:57.20 | Dagmar | You don't have to do the entire image in one go, either |
| 06:58.07 | Shirik | hrm |
| 06:58.26 | Shirik | You know, I'm realizing part of the problem is that I don't think I went dark enough when taking the shots |
| 06:58.35 | ccox|AV | With Photoshop extended, you can get creative - use a layer to selectively tone/ND filter areas |
| 06:58.38 | Shirik | I should have taken an even wider range... even though I covered about 5-6 stops ... |
| 06:58.57 | ccox|AV | getting the right exposures also takes experience |
| 06:58.57 | Dagmar | Huh? PS can't apply the effect to only one layer? |
| 06:59.13 | ccox|AV | Dag - no, but with extended you can use layers in 32 bit |
| 06:59.34 | ccox|AV | Dag - and you can use a layer to change the local tone, paint in the toning |
| 06:59.35 | Shirik | I'm glad I got extended now :) |
| 06:59.39 | Dagmar | Are we talking 32-32-32-32 or just 8RGBA? |
| 06:59.57 | ccox|AV | My best shot, is 27 stops range (dark shadows, and the setting sun through a window) |
| 07:00.15 | ccox|AV | Dag - 32 bit/channel, floating point aka HDR |
| 07:00.48 | Dagmar | I can see where that would be useful |
| 07:01.13 | ccox|AV | That newyork shot isn't a simple tone mapper - lots of creative adjustment in there |
| 07:01.52 | ccox|AV | The best HDR toning, is stuff nobody notices in the final image... |
| 07:02.01 | Dagmar | Yeah. I can tell the guy did a lot of work detailing each little section |
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| 07:13.45 | Shirik | ok I exported it to JPEG |
| 07:13.47 | Shirik | let me upload it somewhere |
| 07:17.05 | Shirik | ccox|AV / Dagmar / Wobin: http://shiibot.com/2781ldr.jpg |
| 07:17.35 | ccox|AV | a little haloing, and yeah - you didnt' go dark enough |
| 07:17.41 | Shirik | haloing? |
| 07:18.23 | ccox|AV | um, hard to describe - fuzzy areas of tonal inversion due to the size of the filter |
| 07:18.57 | ccox|AV | changing the filter size, or the threshold can reduce it |
| 07:19.07 | Shirik | oh yeah, I don't really know how to use those options :( |
| 07:19.43 | ccox|AV | VERY nice for a first try though! |
| 07:19.53 | Shirik | <3 |
| 07:20.01 | ccox|AV | you might bring the shadows down a little bit with the curve in local adapt |
| 07:20.24 | Wobin | It looks pretty awesome =) |
| 07:20.24 | Shirik | I really intentionally brought that up actually |
| 07:20.32 | Shirik | I wanted the contrast in the near wall |
| 07:20.58 | Shirik | also I note that this is a very low quality post, but didn't feel like uploading an 8MB file |
| 07:21.00 | ccox|AV | that's going to be tough to get without darker exposures |
| 07:22.12 | Shirik | the part that bugs me is the white part in the sky, really |
| 07:22.43 | ccox|AV | again, it's about getting the right exposures |
| 07:22.56 | Shirik | also, I got a gray card a few days ago. Since then, my picture quality out of the camera has increased immensely. Best $30 I ever spent |
| 07:23.01 | Dagmar | ...and when all else fails, there's the airbrushing tool. ;) |
| 07:23.06 | ccox|AV | and I think the white looks good - as a gradient with the gold and violet |
| 07:23.36 | ccox|AV | BTW - you need to clean your sensor |
| 07:23.45 | Shirik | hm? |
| 07:23.54 | Shirik | why you say that |
| 07:24.05 | ccox|AV | bunch of dust |
| 07:24.35 | Shirik | in all honesty, it might actually be on the filters themselves |
| 07:24.55 | Shirik | you referring to the black dots in the sky? |
| 07:25.13 | ccox|AV | gray dots all over the image |
| 07:25.24 | ccox|AV | the filters are UNDER the IR rejection glass - you can't reach them |
| 07:25.34 | Shirik | am I blind? :/ |
| 07:25.37 | ccox|AV | unless you're talking about stuff on the lens itself |
| 07:25.41 | Shirik | I meant on the lens |
| 07:25.46 | Shirik | like filters I screwed on |
| 07:25.57 | ccox|AV | these are too sharp - most likely inside |
| 07:26.21 | Shirik | wait |
| 07:26.26 | Shirik | you referring to the stuff in the distance? |
| 07:26.54 | Wobin | there's a splotch in the orange band above the lamp |
| 07:26.56 | ccox|AV | no, gray circles -- zoom into 100% |
| 07:27.34 | Shirik | I really don't see what you're talking about :/ |
| 07:27.43 | Shirik | except in the sky |
| 07:28.15 | Dagmar | Yeah some blobbies in the sky |
| 07:28.33 | Wobin | UFOs! |
| 07:28.41 | Shirik | I'm really nervous about cleaning the sensor though; I'd rather just send it to Canon, but it's only a month old |
| 07:28.44 | Dagmar | Damn well might be |
| 07:28.55 | Wobin | Unidentified Foreign Objects |
| 07:28.56 | Dagmar | There's a row of them, real regular-like along the top |
| 07:28.57 | Shirik | and I haven't even changed lenses |
| 07:29.08 | Wobin | Shirik: Just need a can of compressed air |
| 07:29.20 | Shirik | The manual says specifically not to use compressed air on the sensor |
| 07:29.35 | Dagmar | It's very pretty there tho |
| 07:30.25 | Shirik | I'll probably just record dust delete data and see if it improves |
| 07:30.55 | Shirik | for now, I can just cut out that top part :) |
| 07:32.01 | Wobin | or photoshop it out =) |
| 07:32.47 | nevcairiel | photoshops wobin out |
| 07:32.58 | Wobin | hits the undo command |
| 07:33.17 | Shirik | for now |
| 07:33.20 | Shirik | yeah Wobin |
| 07:33.23 | Shirik | that's what I'm doing instead :) |
| 07:33.29 | Shirik | spot healing is doing a great job of it |
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| 07:45.18 | Shirik | ok |
| 07:45.24 | Shirik | got rid of those pesky spots |
| 07:45.31 | Shirik | I will go record dust delete data now |
| 07:45.40 | Shirik | just in case it wasn't the filter |
| 07:46.05 | ccox|AV | do double check the lens, filter, etc. and look into sensor cleaning techniques |
| 07:46.32 | ccox|AV | http://www.visibledust.com/ is the brand of equip I use |
| 07:47.29 | Shirik | wow wtf was that |
| 07:47.43 | Shirik | apparently the camera tries to self-clean the sensor when recording dust delete data or something too |
| 07:48.00 | Wobin | Isn't that counterintuitive? |
| 07:48.26 | Shirik | hm, it keeps saying "Could not obtain the data" :/ |
| 08:00.27 | Shirik | well I just took a shot of a white wall |
| 08:00.30 | Shirik | and I don't see the dust |
| 08:00.40 | nevcairiel | maybe it was an UFO :P |
| 08:00.50 | Shirik | so either it was a filter or all those attempts with the cleaning process removed it P |
| 08:00.51 | Shirik | :P |
| 08:01.16 | Shirik | maybe it says it can't record dust delete data because there's no dust left ^_^ |
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| 08:12.48 | Wobin | hm |
| 08:12.51 | Wobin | interesting |
| 08:13.00 | Wobin | despite the fact that my main is a DK |
| 08:13.16 | Wobin | the number of blogs about DKing in my RSS feeds numbers 0 |
| 08:13.27 | Wobin | in fact the only blogs I subscribe to that are class specific are hunter ones |
| 08:13.48 | Shirik | That's probably because DKs don't need blogs |
| 08:13.54 | Shirik | DK = instagood |
| 08:13.57 | Wobin | I guess as a DK tank, I'm not as concerned about fine tuned tweaks |
| 08:14.14 | Wobin | DK ~= instagood unfortunately |
| 08:14.18 | Wobin | having seen some -terrible- DKs |
| 08:14.44 | nevcairiel | i'm a terrible dps-dk, but i'm a good tank =P |
| 08:14.53 | Wobin | I should look into some resto shammy blogs maybe |
| 08:14.58 | Wobin | nevcairiel: yeah ditto |
| 08:15.25 | Wobin | my tanking reactions are pretty good, but dps, I lose the cycle a lot |
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| 08:17.14 | Wobin | an old game, but still a good one http://grant.robinson.name/projects/guess-the-google/game/?l=6 |
| 08:22.47 | Wobin | 368 best score so far |
| 08:22.57 | Wobin | goddamn them for putting up shots of the Sydney Opera House |
| 08:23.02 | Wobin | then only accepting Sydney =P |
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| 08:30.05 | nevcairiel | 350 .. damn that game =P |
| 08:32.23 | Wobin | wow.. creepy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmortem_photography |
| 08:33.36 | Shirik | I have to figure out where to go tomorrow |
| 08:33.54 | Wobin | The zoo! |
| 08:34.12 | Wobin | or the aquarium, but that could be problematic due to glass |
| 08:35.10 | Shirik | I'm not sure if we have either around here |
| 08:35.24 | Shirik | but glass isn't a real issue; I don't have a flash anyway |
| 08:35.42 | Wobin | background light can still affect that |
| 08:35.47 | Shirik | true |
| 08:35.58 | Wobin | hm, botanical park? |
| 08:36.03 | Wobin | Graveyard |
| 08:36.11 | Wobin | (they're always interesting) |
| 08:36.19 | Wobin | especially if you can find an abandonded one |
| 08:36.32 | Shirik | I really have no idea where anything is around here :/ |
| 08:36.35 | Wobin | Cathedral |
| 08:36.37 | Dagmar | Lot of emo teens hanging out all day at once near you? |
| 08:36.42 | Dagmar | s/once/ones/; |
| 08:37.00 | Shirik | I thought about going to the coast |
| 08:37.03 | Shirik | I might do that |
| 08:37.11 | Dagmar | San Francisco. :) |
| 08:37.12 | Shirik | but I really don't even know how to go there |
| 08:37.17 | Wobin | by car! |
| 08:37.20 | Shirik | .. |
| 08:37.22 | Shirik | yes thank you |
| 08:37.25 | Wobin | beams |
| 08:37.41 | Wobin | You could go to the city centre |
| 08:37.53 | Wobin | or to a place like the local chinatown or equivalent |
| 08:37.59 | Shirik | thought about that |
| 08:38.08 | Shirik | but my city center is really.... not much of a city |
| 08:38.20 | Shirik | unless I go to portland |
| 08:38.26 | Dagmar | ah |
| 08:38.42 | Dagmar | Somewhere with trees then |
| 08:39.16 | Shirik | everything has trees where I live :P |
| 08:39.32 | Wobin | interesting technique: http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2009/07/30/speed-reading-and-accelerated-learning/ |
| 08:39.39 | Wobin | I wonder how well it works |
| 08:40.46 | Shirik | I wonder if I can do HDR _and_ panorama at the same time |
| 08:40.51 | Shirik | hmm |
| 08:41.32 | Wobin | don't see why not |
| 08:41.32 | Wobin | they aren't mutually exclusive by any stretch of the imagination |
| 08:41.32 | Shirik | but like |
| 08:41.32 | Shirik | what do you do first |
| 08:41.36 | Wobin | the HDR |
| 08:41.44 | Wobin | well, the frams |
| 08:41.46 | Wobin | er frames |
| 08:41.52 | Shirik | ah I see what you're saying |
| 08:41.52 | Fisker | Shiriks wobin |
| 08:42.02 | Shirik | HDR each of the frames I have, then stitch them together |
| 08:42.04 | Wobin | then move, then retake your frames, then move again |
| 08:42.15 | Shirik | Well I alrelady have this |
| 08:42.23 | Wobin | stitch them together separately, then apply the HDR scripts |
| 08:42.27 | Shirik | I bracketed +/- 1.5 stops and rotated |
| 08:43.13 | Wobin | make it so you have three panoramic shots at different stops |
| 08:43.58 | Dagmar | ...or take two about seven inches apart and start playing with the nVidia driver toyes |
| 08:44.00 | Wobin | either way -should- work the same |
| 08:44.03 | Dagmar | s/es/s/; |
| 08:44.28 | Wobin | but it's more logical to me to apply the HDR to three large images, than to nine smaller images then stitch |
| 08:45.13 | Dagmar | The outcome of HDR will not help an auto-stitcher |
| 08:45.13 | Wobin | yeah |
| 08:45.13 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, pong |
| 08:45.13 | Wobin | that's what I'd worry about |
| 08:45.13 | Shirik | Thunder_Child, too late! |
| 08:45.14 | Wobin | ccox|sleep helped him! |
| 08:45.17 | Shirik | I already submitted my first HDR, without your help! |
| 08:45.23 | Thunder_Child | sorry i was watching a fail movie |
| 08:45.24 | Shirik | ps go to deviantart |
| 08:45.30 | Wobin | how fail was it? |
| 08:45.39 | Thunder_Child | not worth the $12 fail |
| 08:45.45 | Thunder_Child | and i didnt pay for it |
| 08:45.46 | Wobin | alas |
| 08:45.48 | Dagmar | It'd be tedious to stitch them all and then filter it, but I'm reasonably sure the changes to the image thet HDR will incur might make them a right bitch to do after |
| 08:45.49 | Wobin | what movie? |
| 08:45.59 | Thunder_Child | public enemy |
| 08:46.02 | Thunder_Child | (s) |
| 08:46.04 | Wobin | orly? |
| 08:46.08 | theorbtwo | I'd shoot the different exposures in HDR at the same time, then move. On the other hand, I'd stitch first, then HDR. |
| 08:46.08 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 08:46.20 | Wobin | hm, I might have to miss that one then |
| 08:46.35 | theorbtwo | It's certianly possible -- somebody posted one of those to an image site I'm on recently. |
| 08:46.41 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, well my tastes arent yours |
| 08:46.42 | theorbtwo | OTOH, it didn't work out terribly well. |
| 08:46.56 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: true, but I was wavering on the movie in the first place |
| 08:47.43 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, they had 2 different shooting styles there kept switching back and forth on and it was iritating |
| 08:47.49 | theorbtwo | (IIRC, that's because his HDR shots ended up having different DsOF.) |
| 08:47.49 | Thunder_Child | s/there/they/ |
| 08:48.01 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: unfortunately, with the way my mind works, I'd have spent the whole movie going "My god, the goddamn Batman works for the FBI" |
| 08:48.01 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, kings view? |
| 08:48.09 | Shirik | yes |
| 08:48.27 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, i spent the whole movie going, "we are being saved by a grammaton cleric" |
| 08:48.33 | Dagmar | hehhe |
| 08:49.00 | Dagmar | C'mon. |
| 08:49.06 | Dagmar | It's Kung Fu plus guns. |
| 08:49.09 | Dagmar | What's not to like. :) |
| 08:49.12 | Wobin | GUN FU |
| 08:49.22 | Wobin | I need to watch that again |
| 08:49.27 | Thunder_Child | Gun Kata Wobin |
| 08:49.30 | Thunder_Child | not FU |
| 08:49.36 | Thunder_Child | <3 that movie |
| 08:49.38 | Wobin | Or the terrible terrible little sister of that movie, UltraViolet |
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| 08:49.49 | Thunder_Child | i enjoyed that for the tech |
| 08:49.53 | Shirik | what do you think Thunder_Child |
| 08:49.54 | Dagmar | That wasn't a sister. |
| 08:49.59 | Wobin | Oh me too, but it was still terrible |
| 08:50.06 | Wobin | Dagmar: red headed step child? =) |
| 08:50.21 | Dagmar | That was a lunatic down the street who killed the costumer from Equlibrium and is wearing his skin like a coat |
| 08:50.28 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, it feels too light |
| 08:50.35 | Shirik | I agree |
| 08:50.43 | Shirik | that's partially because I didn't take enough shots |
| 08:50.47 | Wobin | that whole movie was a case of "How can we put Milla Jovovich in as many revealing costumes as possible in one movie?" |
| 08:50.58 | Dagmar | I didn't have any problem with that aspect of it. |
| 08:51.02 | Shirik | I didn't go far enough on the underexposed side |
| 08:51.08 | Arrowmaster | and thats a bad thing? |
| 08:51.12 | Dagmar | Neither did the movie. |
| 08:51.12 | Wobin | Dagmar: Plot, it had -plot-? =P |
| 08:51.16 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, i usually do +-2 |
| 08:51.29 | Dagmar | Wobin: Honestly, I couldn't tell you. |
| 08:51.32 | Shirik | This was 7 shots, about 2/3 spacing |
| 08:51.33 | Thunder_Child | in half step increments |
| 08:51.40 | Wobin | too busy ogling Milla? =) |
| 08:51.50 | Dagmar | I went in _expecting_ a plot, but I didn't notice one. |
| 08:51.53 | Shirik | unfortunately I focused more on the overexposed side than the underexposed side, because I was trying to get the trees/road |
| 08:52.08 | Shirik | and didn't bother to check the sky more than a brief pass |
| 08:52.09 | Dagmar | Yeah pretty much too busy thinking "Damn she looks hot in that" |
| 08:52.12 | Thunder_Child | " Wobin: that whole movie was a case of "How can we put Milla Jovovich in as many revealing costumes as possible in one movie?"" <- 5th element |
| 08:52.26 | Dagmar | Nah she wore mainly the same thing all through that |
| 08:52.31 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: but she kicked arse more in UV than 5th Element |
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| 08:52.41 | Wobin | although I like the 5th Element for that opera singer |
| 08:52.46 | Dagmar | In UV it wsa costume change after costume change |
| 08:52.54 | Wobin | every 30 seconds =P |
| 08:52.55 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, but she didnt kick ass during an opera song in UV |
| 08:53.01 | Dagmar | Seriously |
| 08:53.14 | Wobin | hair colour, clothes, bike, everything |
| 08:53.31 | Wobin | They probably just put her in a green suit |
| 08:53.39 | Wobin | and CGI'd it all |
| 08:53.39 | Dagmar | They change her outfit and the average male mind just skips it's tracks like an LP and goes back to "Damn she looks hot in that" for long enough to forget what they were just thinking about |
| 08:53.48 | Wobin | Dagmar: so true |
| 08:54.28 | Wobin | you're like "Okay, so she's got some disease in her blood that makes her... oooh.. redhead... uh... disease in her blood that... mmm skimpy... er.. disease... blonde....uh whut?" |
| 08:55.08 | Dagmar | Interspersed with moments of "YAY violence!" |
| 08:55.18 | Wobin | zomg swords =) |
| 08:55.29 | Arrowmaster | and the "many" weapons scene |
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| 08:56.59 | Dagmar | Chuck Norris does not fight eight foot mutants and win. |
| 08:57.11 | Dagmar | Milla does. |
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| 09:01.54 | Wobin | huh, TCG mounts now BoU =P |
| 09:02.11 | Wobin | I'm still waiting for the one I bought when I entered my details in that website =P |
| 09:03.18 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, http://www.thunder-child.net/Misc/King__s_View_by_DarkroomMaster_Edit.jpg |
| 09:04.11 | Shirik | seems a bit too strong to me |
| 09:04.25 | Thunder_Child | meh, i like vibrancy |
| 09:04.35 | Wobin | squints |
| 09:04.40 | Shirik | me too, but the white in the sky throws it off I think |
| 09:05.00 | Thunder_Child | i could tone it down but that would require layers and i am lazy at 2am |
| 09:05.07 | Shirik | hah |
| 09:05.11 | Shirik | yeah I'm going to sleep myself |
| 09:05.20 | Shirik | tomorrow is full of taking pictures |
| 09:05.26 | Thunder_Child | /envy |
| 09:06.00 | Thunder_Child | at the moment |
| 09:06.02 | Thunder_Child | mt |
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| 09:33.00 | Fisker | damnit Shirik |
| 09:33.02 | Fisker | now i don't need IE8 for Windows 7 |
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| 10:23.28 | cbreak | no one needs IE8 for anything |
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| 10:41.28 | Fisker | no u cbreak |
| 10:44.28 | Fisker | i need it for EVERYTHING cbreak |
| 10:45.07 | Fisker | kisses cbreak on teh cheek >:3 |
| 10:45.18 | cbreak | ... |
| 10:45.34 | Fisker | that's what she said |
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| 12:37.40 | Kaso | Is it not possible to do a "smart" mount macro with Flight form because its a CastSpell rather than CallCompanion |
| 12:38.00 | Kaso | or at least harder and requiring some SecureActionButton nonsense |
| 12:38.15 | cbreak | how smart? |
| 12:38.26 | Kaso | One that doesnt try to fly in dalaran |
| 12:38.40 | cbreak | I'd use an addon for that |
| 12:38.57 | cbreak | maybe you can modify one of the normal fly addons |
| 12:39.36 | Kaso | you'd need to go into SecureAction territory to do it though wouldnt you |
| 12:40.19 | cbreak | maybe |
| 12:40.26 | cbreak | but it should be rather unproblematic |
| 12:40.35 | cbreak | since you'd be out of combat in any situation where you can mount |
| 12:44.16 | nevcairiel | cant you still /cast your mounts? |
| 12:44.24 | nevcairiel | at least my macro still works |
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| 12:46.22 | Kaso | you can /cast mounts, but you cant selectively cast depending on whether you are in dalaran or not |
| 12:46.36 | Kaso | because [flyable] isnt smart enough |
| 12:47.57 | nevcairiel | who cares =) |
| 12:48.28 | Kaso | well its just irritating ;p |
| 12:48.39 | nevcairiel | i just fly-form everywhere anyway, and have some second button with a land mount if needed |
| 12:48.46 | nevcairiel | gotta love 3.2 when flyform is 320% too |
| 12:48.53 | nevcairiel | (when you have a 320 mount) |
| 12:50.35 | nevcairiel | wait, its 310 :P |
| 12:51.54 | jnwhiteh | i dont have a 310/320 mount =/ |
| 12:51.59 | jnwhiteh | i should get one. |
| 12:53.21 | nevcairiel | i have an arena drake back from season 1 in BC |
| 12:53.26 | nevcairiel | that was good times back then |
| 12:53.36 | nevcairiel | and i have the 25-man naxxramas raid drake |
| 12:55.41 | jnwhiteh | ah |
| 12:56.14 | cbreak | they are rather hard to get |
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| 13:07.15 | Kaso | the ulduar drakes are going to be still gettable once 3.2 comes out though, so perhaps that is the best way to get one |
| 13:08.06 | Kaso | Ironbound will be fairly easy to get once you are Coliseum geared |
| 13:10.34 | Kaso | i mean rusted even |
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| 16:23.04 | Fisker | You wouldn't steal a car |
| 16:23.54 | Stanzilla | so Fisker |
| 16:23.58 | Stanzilla | no Win 7 E |
| 16:23.59 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 16:24.11 | Fisker | old |
| 16:24.29 | Stanzilla | a bit, yes |
| 16:25.30 | Fisker | iTunes suck |
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| 16:26.25 | Bruners | use foobar2000 |
| 16:27.38 | Fisker | no Bruners |
| 16:29.25 | Bruners | Fisker: this is where you are wrong |
| 16:31.03 | Fisker | No it's not |
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| 16:34.27 | Shirik | so Fisker |
| 16:34.31 | Shirik | I have IE8 |
| 16:36.49 | Fisker | so do i Shirik |
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| 16:37.43 | Fisker | But damn we owned Microsoft Shirik |
| 16:37.49 | Shirik | yah |
| 16:38.00 | Fisker | Got a full version of Windows 7 for the same as the upgrade version's price |
| 16:39.21 | Shirik | I got a full version of windows 7 for free |
| 16:39.26 | Shirik | lul msdn |
| 16:39.54 | Fisker | no |
| 16:40.05 | Fisker | You got an evaluation copy for a pretty hefty fee |
| 16:40.08 | Fisker | gj |
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| 16:40.43 | nevcairiel` | i'll get a full professional for free, yay for msdnaa |
| 16:40.47 | nevcairiel` | but its not on yet =P |
| 16:41.05 | tlund | uuuh |
| 16:41.09 | Fisker | almost the same thing nevcairiel` |
| 16:41.11 | tlund | how do you get MSDN for free?! |
| 16:41.14 | Fisker | but hey atleast it's free |
| 16:41.18 | Fisker | tlund MSDN != MSDNAA |
| 16:41.19 | nevcairiel` | its not evaluation |
| 16:41.23 | Fisker | i know |
| 16:42.16 | Fisker | AA = Academic Alliance = "Free" copies of software for students |
| 16:42.16 | nevcairiel | though the release on MSDNAA is linked to the availability on MSDN :P |
| 16:42.16 | tlund | aaah |
| 16:42.16 | nevcairiel | and that hasnt happend yet, afaik |
| 16:42.34 | Fisker | friday next week i believe |
| 16:42.39 | tlund | ok |
| 16:42.59 | nevcairiel | I hope my school is fast and has it on MSDNAA soon |
| 16:43.12 | nevcairiel | then i can get my eval version off =P |
| 16:46.57 | Shirik | Fisker: I don't have MSDNAA |
| 16:47.02 | Shirik | I have Professional MSDN |
| 16:47.04 | Fisker | nevcairiel does |
| 16:47.22 | Shirik | Or Premium |
| 16:47.25 | nevcairiel | but anyway, the RTM isnt on MSDN yet (afaik, anyway) |
| 16:47.25 | Shirik | I forget |
| 16:47.33 | Shirik | yah |
| 16:47.35 | Shirik | I'm still on 7100 |
| 16:47.45 | nevcairiel | anyone can be on 7100 :D |
| 16:47.52 | nevcairiel | i'm on 7600, but evaling :D |
| 16:48.03 | Dagmar | I'm on whatever it's updated itself to |
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| 16:49.20 | nevcairiel | build doesnt change from updates |
| 16:49.37 | Dagmar | I'm assuming the binaries are all the same tho |
| 16:50.24 | Shirik | I wish I knew exactly what a "build number" was |
| 16:50.43 | Shirik | I mean it's fairly obvious they haven't released 7600 versions |
| 16:50.50 | Shirik | and I doubt they've only compiled it that many times |
| 16:51.10 | Shirik | We don't have an equivalent to "build number" where I work |
| 16:52.01 | nevcairiel | that number is just a virtual number |
| 16:52.17 | nevcairiel | they inflated it from like 7200 to 7600 for the RTM |
| 16:52.20 | Dagmar | It's like an SVN revision, but clunkier |
| 16:52.44 | nevcairiel | 7600.16384.090710 |
| 16:52.48 | Fisker | sure does nevcairiel :3 |
| 16:52.56 | nevcairiel | the 16384 supposedly is the real build |
| 16:53.06 | Fisker | it's the QFE build |
| 16:53.11 | Shirik | I mean, do they really only have 16384 "versions"? |
| 16:53.20 | Shirik | even that seems suspect |
| 16:53.29 | nevcairiel | compiled versions, maybe :D |
| 16:53.34 | Shirik | we have something on the order of 45000 versions at work |
| 16:53.48 | Fisker | it's apparently something to do with the bitcode |
| 16:54.18 | Fisker | Their final build also has to be dividable by 16 |
| 16:54.30 | Shirik | dividable? |
| 16:54.33 | Fisker | yeah |
| 16:57.21 | ZorbaGama | from what I remember reading, the build number is a largely arbitrary number decided upon by the build team |
| 16:57.39 | Fisker | yeah |
| 16:57.54 | Fisker | and this is the "arbitrary number" |
| 17:02.58 | Shirik | I want to be on that team |
| 17:03.15 | Shirik | get paid to make up numbers |
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| 17:05.29 | nevcairiel | i bet they do more then that :p |
| 17:13.16 | ccox | shirik - for panormas, try heading over to wilammette valley |
| 17:13.38 | ccox | look for the farms growing flowers/bulbs |
| 17:13.58 | ccox | and the coast is only an hour or so away, lots of pretty spots along there |
| 17:18.24 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:18.47 | ccox | Hey, what did that trout do to you to deserve that! |
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| 17:26.54 | Shirik | ccox: Farms that grow flowers? |
| 17:28.58 | Shirik | besides I always get confused by farms |
| 17:29.05 | Shirik | I'm like... will they get mad if I take pictures :P |
| 17:29.14 | Shirik | esp. if I want to get close up |
| 17:31.10 | ccox | imagine large fields of the same flower variety |
| 17:31.51 | ccox | you really should try those areas in the spring -- huge fields of bright tulips are fun |
| 17:32.04 | ccox | many of them border the road |
| 17:32.12 | ccox | or you could always ASK for permission |
| 17:32.25 | ccox | I just liked them for the panoramas |
| 17:32.45 | Shirik | I also have no idea how to get to the coast |
| 17:32.57 | ccox | there's one highway going west, take it |
| 17:33.07 | Fisker | touches Shirik |
| 17:34.20 | ccox | highway 26 |
| 17:34.46 | ccox | or, just, you know, get a map |
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| 17:40.05 | Shirik | wtf is a map |
| 17:41.46 | nevcairiel | google sells them for free |
| 17:41.49 | mikma | it's the prehistoric version of GPS |
| 17:42.02 | nevcairiel | you can print them from there =p |
| 17:47.28 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:48.15 | ccox | Fisker: stop abusing that poor trout |
| 17:48.35 | Dewin | *reads up in IRC chat* *sees "Wilamette Valley"* Who's where in Oregon doing what? |
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| 17:52.48 | Fisker | slaps ccox around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:53.30 | ccox | ah, l'eau de poisson |
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| 18:04.24 | Shirik | Dewin: I've been in the WA/OR area for a few months |
| 18:05.21 | Shirik | I'm still debating |
| 18:05.33 | Shirik | do I want to hit up this Willamette Valley or do I want to go to an area with more water |
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| 18:05.39 | Shirik | or does willamette Valley have lakes/etc? |
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| 18:14.16 | ccox | not many - check your map |
| 18:14.32 | ccox | if you want lakes, go up to Mt.St.Helens |
| 18:16.32 | ccox | "There are great vistas in Washington that don't have UAC hassles" |
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| 18:25.15 | Shirik | UAC hassles? |
| 18:25.17 | Shirik | o.O |
| 18:25.18 | Shirik | rofl |
| 18:25.20 | Shirik | I get it |
| 18:34.41 | Shirik | isn't mt. saint helen's far away? |
| 18:35.09 | Shirik | We could not calculate directions between bingen, wa and Mount Saint Helens, Stevenson, Washington. |
| 18:35.10 | Shirik | .... |
| 18:35.51 | Shirik | yeah about 4 hours :( |
| 18:37.20 | ccox | I thought you were closer to portland than that |
| 18:37.31 | Shirik | I'm about an hour east of portland |
| 18:37.44 | Shirik | which is not a big deal, I generally go to portland area every week |
| 18:38.26 | ccox | now I know how you're getting so many river shots.. |
| 18:38.27 | A-KO | how long does curse addon approval take usually? |
| 18:38.28 | Cloudwolf | Hmm i think mt st helens in boarder area between oregan and washington |
| 18:39.04 | Shirik | What would you say |
| 18:39.09 | Shirik | 84W to I5 S? |
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| 18:39.19 | Shirik | That looks right |
| 18:39.34 | ccox | yeah, that's about the only way, short of taking logging roads |
| 18:40.05 | Shirik | Then just drive around like a nutcase looking for stuff :D |
| 18:40.26 | ccox | and if you value the finish on your car, don't take the logging roads near Mt. St. Helens |
| 18:40.32 | Shirik | ha |
| 18:40.49 | ccox | volcanic ash does wonders for the finish (gloss to matte in just one day!) |
| 18:40.56 | Shirik | nah this is towards the valley |
| 18:41.04 | Shirik | which is why I said S instead of N :) |
| 18:41.06 | Cloudwolf | heh yes it does ccox |
| 18:41.10 | ccox | I drove up there once right after waxing the car - went up with a green car, came back with gray |
| 18:41.20 | Cloudwolf | when it exploded you weren't supposed to wipe off the ash from any vehicle lol |
| 18:41.38 | Cloudwolf | took off all the paint |
| 18:41.50 | Cloudwolf | besides clogging every damned vent in a vehicle |
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| 18:42.30 | Cloudwolf | mmmm jelly beans |
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| 19:29.25 | Thunder_Child | ~weather klax |
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| 19:42.34 | mikma | so... |
| 19:42.46 | mikma | what will happen to the mounts if you change your character into another faction? |
| 19:43.54 | jnwhiteh | i think they get converted |
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| 19:48.02 | Silversage | LF someone to point out the error in my code and laugh at me. |
| 19:48.38 | mikma | ok, pastey it. |
| 19:48.41 | haste | ~asktoask |
| 19:48.42 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 19:49.26 | Silversage | Not worth a pastey: |
| 19:49.27 | Silversage | ## SavedVariables: SageTradeskillPricingData |
| 19:49.31 | Silversage | From the toc... |
| 19:49.45 | Silversage | And from my own code (an Auctioneer matcher)... |
| 19:50.04 | Silversage | function lib.OnLoad() |
| 19:50.04 | Silversage | SageTradeskillPricingData = SageTradeskillPricingData or {recipes = {}} |
| 19:50.05 | Silversage | recipes = SageTradeskillPricingData.recipes |
| 19:52.31 | Silversage | The .toc: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/119583 |
| 19:55.57 | Silversage | The .lua, with highlights in 2 places: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/119584 |
| 19:57.29 | Silversage | Lines 34 and 383-385. |
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| 20:20.09 | Tem | this is maddening |
| 20:20.27 | Tem | I can't get this windows 7 install going |
| 20:20.41 | A-KO | why? |
| 20:21.07 | Tem | for some reason, attempting to burn the iso directly fails in every program I've tried |
| 20:21.15 | A-KO | imgburn? |
| 20:21.24 | Tem | manually extracting the files fails to create a bootable disc |
| 20:21.41 | Tem | making a bootable ubs drive fails to start the setup process when booted from |
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| 20:24.23 | Thunder_Child | fail Tem, fail |
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| 20:30.22 | cbreak | soon, the final version will be in stores |
| 20:30.27 | cbreak | so you can just buy a disk |
| 20:34.37 | Tem | I don't plan on buying anything |
| 20:34.47 | cbreak | linux ftw! |
| 20:35.02 | Tem | the linux install is broken |
| 20:35.15 | Tem | and the reason I'm installing windows 7 |
| 20:35.16 | cbreak | I had no problem |
| 20:44.56 | Bruners | Tem: sounds like you have bad recordable media or a broken burner |
| 20:45.33 | Tem | Bruners, *shrug* |
| 20:46.03 | Tem | it's probably the media |
| 20:46.25 | Tem | but that doesn't explain why I keep failing to get the usb to work |
| 20:46.27 | Bruners | that is mostly the case here, had a whole spindel of 25 fail |
| 20:46.57 | Tem | according to the internets, I've got my usb set up properly to boot up |
| 20:47.28 | Bruners | does it boot from it at all ? |
| 20:47.55 | Bruners | as in do you get any errors that it cant find anything to boot up |
| 20:48.47 | Bruners | if not my best bet would be that you havent set it as first boot in bios |
| 20:50.23 | Tem | it boots from the usb |
| 20:50.51 | Tem | but nothing happens once booted |
| 20:50.57 | Tem | setup does not begin |
| 20:55.01 | Fisker | slaps Bruners around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:56.43 | cbreak | do you have an USB memory stick? |
| 20:56.49 | cbreak | if so, consider trying slax |
| 20:56.55 | cbreak | (if you are interested in linux that is) |
| 20:59.29 | Tem | I do |
| 20:59.59 | Tem | it's really just for my laptop |
| 21:00.26 | Tem | it just needs to function as a glorified netbook |
| 21:00.40 | Tem | on 5 year old hardware |
| 21:02.02 | Tem | sadface |
| 21:02.05 | Tem | slax is KDE |
| 21:12.30 | durcyn | i ended up using ubuntu netbook remix on an old eeepc, it's not horrible |
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| 21:14.38 | Fisker | i hate you itunes |
| 21:22.47 | Fisker | slaps durcyn around a bit with a large trout |
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| 21:24.34 | Thunder_Child | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
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| 21:26.56 | ScytheBlade1 | yay for FINALLY cleaning up my desk area |
| 21:26.57 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/misc/computers.jpg |
| 21:27.03 | Bruners | Fisker: use foobar2000 |
| 21:27.30 | Fisker | no Bruners |
| 21:27.41 | Bruners | ScytheBlade1: nice |
| 21:28.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I just need to mount that power strip to the side of the desk |
| 21:28.39 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, no printer? |
| 21:28.59 | ScytheBlade1 | No printer, actually |
| 21:29.04 | Bruners | printer lol |
| 21:29.05 | ScytheBlade1 | There is one upstairs though |
| 21:29.06 | mikma | nerd |
| 21:29.09 | ScytheBlade1 | yay networking |
| 21:29.31 | Thunder_Child | actually that configureation is a waste of space, but it's not my setup |
| 21:29.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I like having an 'open' area |
| 21:30.15 | Fisker | slaps mikma around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:30.32 | Cide | Thunder_Child: why would you set up your own cubicle if you had a choice not to? |
| 21:31.05 | Thunder_Child | Cide, huh? |
| 21:31.17 | Cide | pack as much shit into as little area as possible |
| 21:31.27 | Cide | s/area/space/ |
| 21:31.29 | Bruners | ScytheBlade1: you should also get your cables up from the floor |
| 21:31.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Bruners: I'd love to, BUT, there is no power outlet on this level, actually |
| 21:31.56 | ScytheBlade1 | If you look in the top-left, you can see the power coming down |
| 21:32.01 | ScytheBlade1 | It... complicates things |
| 21:32.02 | Thunder_Child | Cide, who said anything about that? all i was commenting on is that it is not the most effecient use of space |
| 21:32.12 | Cide | well yeah |
| 21:32.18 | Cide | the most efficient use of space is a black hole |
| 21:32.18 | Bruners | ScytheBlade1: something to tidy them up behind the desk |
| 21:32.21 | Cide | 'nuff said |
| 21:32.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, maybe |
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| 21:42.01 | Fisker | I need not get IE8 for Windows 7 |
| 21:46.45 | Thunder_Child | werent you so happy about it not coming with Fisker? |
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| 21:53.33 | Fisker | IE never came with Fisker |
| 21:53.45 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2009/07/i_dont_care_what_you_say_i_wou.php |
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| 21:55.13 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://www.geekologie.com/2009/07/dont_eat_the_pan_pacman_oven_m.php |
| 21:58.06 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 21:58.11 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn|afk around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:59.07 | Cairenn|afk | hugs Fisker |
| 21:59.35 | Bruners | installs foobar2000 on Fisker's Mac |
| 22:01.37 | Fisker | i don't use a mac n00b |
| 22:03.18 | foxlit | installs IE8 on Fisker. |
| 22:03.25 | foxlit | continues to complain about stability issues. |
| 22:03.34 | Bibi | Fisker, stop talking. |
| 22:04.07 | Bibi | (wow it works!) |
| 22:04.09 | Cide | thank you, Bibi |
| 22:04.17 | Cide | someone needed to say it |
| 22:04.32 | Cide | if you see Adys, tell him he fails |
| 22:04.42 | Fisker | durr Bibi |
| 22:04.46 | Fisker | can't talk over irc |
| 22:05.23 | Bibi | Adys never fails |
| 22:05.23 | Adys | foff |
| 22:05.27 | Bibi | he's a MMO Champion! |
| 22:05.33 | Adys | double foff |
| 22:05.34 | Bibi | I taught him everything he knows, he just can't fail |
| 22:05.43 | Adys | make that triple |
| 22:05.57 | Adys | cide what do you need? |
| 22:06.25 | Fisker | omg Bibi why did you call it mmo champion if it's only by wow?!+1+ |
| 22:06.34 | Adys | lol |
| 22:07.14 | Cide | Adys: oh nothing |
| 22:07.19 | Cide | I figured you had failed with something |
| 22:07.39 | Adys | I fucking have :/ |
| 22:07.45 | Adys | but I can blame django |
| 22:07.51 | Cide | clearly |
| 22:07.53 | Cide | what did you fail with? |
| 22:07.56 | Adys | no seriously |
| 22:08.16 | Adys | I had a pending table "owdb_creature_sells" in the models, since like a week |
| 22:08.21 | Adys | it wasnt creating it |
| 22:08.31 | Adys | and since I wasn't really using it I didnt know anything about it |
| 22:08.43 | Cide | did you not give it an app_label? |
| 22:08.55 | Adys | its under the same app label as the core db |
| 22:09.42 | Cide | is it in a models.py file or did you split models into a "models" package? |
| 22:09.49 | Cide | or have you resolved the issue already? |
| 22:09.59 | Bruners | Fisker: sure you do |
| 22:10.01 | Adys | yeah i resolved it by deleting it and doing something else |
| 22:10.02 | Adys | but |
| 22:10.22 | Fisker | naw Bruners |
| 22:10.33 | Adys | models.py, I cant figure out why its not detecting it |
| 22:10.35 | Adys | syncdb isnt |
| 22:10.38 | Bruners | Fisker: why do you insist on using aidstunes then? |
| 22:10.42 | Adys | it appears in sqlall tho |
| 22:11.28 | Fisker | because my brother became an iphonefag |
| 22:11.29 | Bibi | Adys |
| 22:11.35 | Bibi | please debug auctioneer when you're done with my DB |
| 22:11.36 | Bibi | thanks |
| 22:11.46 | Adys | get the hell off my lawn |
| 22:11.48 | Adys | i mean my chan |
| 22:11.49 | Bruners | Fisker: you need itunes to use an iphone? |
| 22:12.03 | Bibi | I wish I had an auctioneer freak to harass, somewhere :( |
| 22:12.19 | Bruners | auctioneer freak? |
| 22:12.22 | Adys | Cide: http://dpaste.com/74190/ |
| 22:12.23 | Fisker | Bruners he needed some apps on it etc. |
| 22:12.34 | Bibi | Bruners : someone who can explain a few things to me |
| 22:12.59 | Bibi | like "why the fuck does snatch ignore my forest emerald" or "why does the post interface doesn't let me unstack my glyphs before posting?" |
| 22:13.02 | Adys | Cide: this is an m2m, I think it might be because I already have a vendor fkey in owdb_creature |
| 22:13.04 | Adys | er |
| 22:13.06 | Adys | owdb_solditem |
| 22:13.10 | Cide | Adys: is it a specific model, or m2m table? |
| 22:13.19 | Adys | urslo |
| 22:13.24 | Cide | m2m table then? |
| 22:13.27 | Adys | yea |
| 22:13.35 | Cide | those are only created when the model is installed |
| 22:13.42 | Cide | if you add it later on you need to add them yourself |
| 22:13.43 | Adys | wat |
| 22:13.48 | Adys | fuck you, seriously? |
| 22:13.50 | Cide | yes |
| 22:13.56 | Adys | it wasnt doing that with through tables :( |
| 22:14.02 | Cide | yes |
| 22:14.11 | Cide | maybe you installed the model at the same time |
| 22:14.18 | Adys | meh |
| 22:15.12 | Cide | did I discuss my scripting language here? |
| 22:15.14 | Cide | or only in #python |
| 22:15.25 | Adys | you might have, I wasnt watching |
| 22:15.32 | Cide | anway |
| 22:15.33 | Cide | anyway |
| 22:15.34 | Adys | I usually ignore everything you say because its garbage |
| 22:15.40 | Bruners | Bibi: use auctionator, problem fixed |
| 22:15.48 | Cide | yeah, evidently |
| 22:15.52 | Cide | anyway |
| 22:15.53 | Bibi | I don't want to run around with a hundred of mods :p |
| 22:16.05 | Cide | it works amazingly |
| 22:16.07 | Adys | how about dont use auctioneer, use auctionator, which is 100 times lighter |
| 22:16.24 | Cide | it's plain old python, granted, but really easy to use |
| 22:16.28 | Bibi | and doesn't have a snatch option, improved ah layout, appraiser, and stuff like that. |
| 22:16.30 | Adys | oh actually Cide was it the one where I gave you links to the spellparse/pypy stringparse? |
| 22:16.55 | Cide | yep |
| 22:17.00 | Cide | I ended up using python |
| 22:17.01 | Adys | Bibi: quit QQing and go do dailies |
| 22:17.05 | Bibi | fu |
| 22:17.05 | Adys | hah |
| 22:17.14 | Cide | works great though |
| 22:18.03 | Adys | hey did reddit finally release their css compiler? |
| 22:20.40 | Adys | ~whalelart Cide |
| 22:21.14 | Cide | if you asked me, I have no idea what that even is |
| 22:21.43 | Adys | they didnt |
| 22:22.52 | Adys | Cide: anyway, that scripting language you were talking about |
| 22:23.02 | Adys | it reminded me of my domscript design |
| 22:24.12 | Adys | double rofl: "Sass is in Ruby and CleverCSS is in python. The only major difference between the two is that Sass requires your indents to be 2 spaces, and CleverCSS doesnât care. |
| 22:32.32 | Torhal | Cairenn|afk: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=150267#post150267 |
| 22:32.42 | Torhal | I got the popup he mentions when I viewed that post. |
| 22:32.53 | Torhal | Looks like a router login popup |
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| 22:34.50 | haste | Torhal: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/member.php?u=194798 this is the culprit |
| 22:35.52 | mikma | what the hell |
| 22:36.01 | mikma | why do i get login request |
| 22:37.22 | Torhal | Joined today |
| 22:37.55 | Torhal | Looks like he hit Curse as well: http://wow.curse.com/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=2140593 |
| 22:37.58 | mikma | http://vbulletinauthorization.blackapplehost.com .. |
| 22:38.04 | Torhal | It's embedded Flash |
| 22:39.45 | Torhal | The guy's sig is the culprit. The image comes from http://flashenabled.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/create-a-cool-signature.jpg |
| 22:40.23 | Torhal | Shirik_, dolby: ^^ |
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| 22:42.42 | mikma | so what exactly is "culprit" |
| 22:44.35 | Torhal | mikma: The cause :P |
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| 22:45.05 | Kalroth | <img src="http://vbulletinauthorization.blackapplehost.com/index.php" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /> |
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| 23:12.26 | ScytheBlade1 | dolby: ^ |
| 23:24.40 | haste | Bruners: ! |
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| 23:35.57 | Fisker | i lol'd so hard |
| 23:35.58 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10222035148&sid=1 |
| 23:36.05 | Fisker | "Since my problem seems somewhat unique" |
| 23:36.10 | Fisker | Yeah, getting compromised |
| 23:36.13 | Fisker | how unique of you |
| 23:36.15 | Fisker | ololol |
| 23:46.25 | Bruners | hehe |
| 23:48.39 | jnwhiteh | so my HoN leaver percentage is shot |
| 23:48.48 | jnwhiteh | because glacius and tempest crash my client |
| 23:49.06 | jnwhiteh | and often times i cannot reconnect afterwards.. it just sits at the loading screen but never enters the game even past 100% |
| 23:49.09 | jnwhiteh | this is annoying. |
| 23:49.30 | jnwhiteh | sleeps |
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