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| 00:19.28 | Drazisil | What should be a very easy question: How do I hide the frame of my addon so it's not visible? I assume I have to have a frame to capture events, but hide() isn't working. |
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| 00:35.59 | durcyn | airtonix: it doesn't work yet =P |
| 00:38.47 | KarlKFI | Drazisil: frame:Hide() isn't working? |
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| 00:42.09 | Drazisil | Nope, no errors, but the flame shays visible. |
| 00:42.13 | Drazisil | stays |
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| 00:50.07 | KarlKFI | is the flame anchored tot he frame? |
| 00:50.11 | KarlKFI | to the* |
| 00:53.13 | Drazisil | KarlKFI: The flame-bone is connected to the frame-bone. What else should I check? ;) |
| 00:53.43 | KarlKFI | is the frame the parent of the flame? |
| 00:54.01 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 00:54.21 | Drazisil | *checks* It is |
| 00:54.55 | KarlKFI | is the flame a texture or a frame? |
| 00:55.31 | Drazisil | Hm. It SAYS it's a frame...how can I be sure? |
| 00:56.16 | KarlKFI | you didn't make it/ |
| 00:56.18 | KarlKFI | ? |
| 00:56.36 | KarlKFI | and when are you calling Hide? |
| 00:56.45 | KarlKFI | and is there anythign calling Show afterwards? |
| 00:57.38 | Drazisil | Shouldn't be. I have it in the OnClick function of a button. |
| 00:58.02 | Drazisil | I know that the function is being called, because I stuck a message() in it. |
| 00:59.00 | KarlKFI | gonna need code then |
| 00:59.49 | Lopeppeppy | Pastey in the channel topic. |
| 01:00.21 | KarlKFI | and actually. it's time to go home |
| 01:00.22 | Drazisil | the XML too, or just the lua? |
| 01:00.27 | KarlKFI | both |
| 01:00.30 | KarlKFI | bbiab |
| 01:00.44 | Drazisil | ok, poke me when you are on if I'm here. |
| 01:04.02 | Drazisil | XML: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/118749 and LUA: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/118748 |
| 01:04.09 | krka | Drazisil: The name of the language is Lua, not LUA. ;-) |
| 01:04.28 | Lopeppeppy | Is the krka bot, but it's correct. |
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| 01:04.38 | Drazisil | lol, ok |
| 01:04.52 | Shirik|zZz | http://www.accuweather.com/us/wa/bingen/98605/city-weather-forecast.asp?partner=accuweather&u=1&traveler=1 |
| 01:04.56 | Shirik|zZz | It is 105 degrees outside |
| 01:05.07 | Lopeppeppy | The hell, Shirik. |
| 01:05.13 | Lopeppeppy | It got up to 90 here today, but not 105! |
| 01:05.20 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Shirik|zZz: i feel your pain |
| 01:05.24 | Drazisil | I though 93 was bad. |
| 01:05.32 | NightHawkTheSan1 | seattle hasn't been much nicer |
| 01:05.33 | Shirik | people laughed at me for wearing a coat |
| 01:05.58 | NightHawkTheSan1 | in this heat, i'd laugh at people for wearing clothes |
| 01:05.59 | Lopeppeppy | That's crazy, Shirik. I didn't think the highs got that high all the way up there. |
| 01:06.08 | Shirik | it also hasn't rained since I got here |
| 01:06.10 | Drazisil | I guess today was hot all over. |
| 01:06.13 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Lopeppeppy: its a fairly record breaking heat wave |
| 01:06.29 | Shirik | which was like 2.5 months ago |
| 01:06.45 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, that sucks. |
| 01:06.51 | NightHawkTheSan1 | supposedly, tonight may be the first night... ever.. that the overnight temp won't go below 70 |
| 01:06.51 | Shirik | however |
| 01:06.53 | Shirik | I gots photoshop |
| 01:06.54 | Lopeppeppy | I complain that it rains too much here, but I'd go crazy without water. |
| 01:07.23 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Shirik: o_0 really, ever? hmm. thats kinda odd, i know its rained up here. but *shrug* |
| 01:07.44 | Shirik | I live in a very strange place |
| 01:07.50 | Shirik | the mountains mess up the weather patterns |
| 01:08.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I've had 3" of snow in July, before |
| 01:08.34 | Lopeppeppy | I live with mountains, and two converging major rivers (Hudson and Mohawk) |
| 01:08.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Bet it isn't as messed up as that. |
| 01:09.00 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: How about this |
| 01:09.11 | Shirik | If you go 10 minutes west, it's always raining |
| 01:09.15 | Shirik | If you go 10 minutes east, you hit a desert |
| 01:09.27 | ScytheBlade1 | that... sounds like a mountain, yes |
| 01:09.37 | Drazisil | Hudson and Mohawk sounds like it's near my side of reality. NY? |
| 01:09.38 | ScytheBlade1 | 20 minutes (driving, I'd assume), that really doesn't sound all that weird |
| 01:09.41 | Lopeppeppy | I liked the cacti that Zoot showed me in California. Wild cactiii! |
| 01:09.46 | Lopeppeppy | NY |
| 01:10.00 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy is easily amused |
| 01:10.02 | Drazisil | I'm over Buffalo way. |
| 01:10.29 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik dear, always. |
| 01:10.41 | Lopeppeppy | Way in the northern wilds above Albany. |
| 01:11.09 | Drazisil | It's beautiful up there |
| 01:11.24 | kd3 | cactii? hm. haven't seen cactii with my own eyes in years |
| 01:12.13 | Lopeppeppy | Loved the wild cacti, until the dog tried to dig one up. :) |
| 01:13.54 | Shirik | lol I love these instructions on photoshop |
| 01:14.04 | Shirik | "You may use a digital camera to create a copy of your proof of eligibility" |
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| 01:14.24 | Shirik | I guess they figure everyone purchasing it probably has a camera instead of a scanner |
| 01:14.29 | devZero | hey, what's the site with the wow lua changes? |
| 01:14.35 | devZero | I can't remember to save my life. |
| 01:14.42 | kd3 | wdnaddons.com |
| 01:14.47 | kd3 | or my interface diffs |
| 01:14.57 | devZero | the interface diffs |
| 01:15.08 | foxlit | kd3: strike one. |
| 01:15.25 | foxlit | Although ++ for the image of a lady with a smile and a backpack. |
| 01:15.39 | kd3 | oh, that's right. it's wowcompares.com now |
| 01:15.49 | kd3 | though it's a few builds out of date |
| 01:16.08 | foxlit | it also kind of fails |
| 01:16.18 | foxlit | but that's a recent thing |
| 01:19.41 | devZero | does UnitIsPlusMob("unit") not work anymore? |
| 01:26.41 | devZero | I mean... in ptr |
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| 01:29.35 | devZero | anyone know what UnitIsPlusMob() was replaced with? |
| 01:31.27 | Arrowmaster | !api UnitClassification |
| 01:31.27 | lua_bot | UnitClassification: Returns a unit's classification (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitClassification) |
| 01:31.44 | Arrowmaster | wasnt replaced, UnitClassification has been the proper function to use for a very long time |
| 01:32.33 | airtonix | question : dbm boss health bars, clicking on the m does anything? |
| 01:35.52 | devZero | Arrowmaster: thank you |
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| 01:45.44 | Wobin | hehe |
| 01:45.45 | Wobin | http://www.octopuspie.com/junk/premiumhugs.jpg |
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| 01:50.41 | AbsolutRayne | rawr |
| 01:50.47 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 01:51.04 | AbsolutRayne | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.17 | AbsolutRayne | The new PitBull borked my UF agains :( |
| 01:51.57 | Shirik | huggles Gryphon |
| 01:52.01 | Gryphon | huggles Shirik |
| 01:52.19 | AbsolutRayne | is sadfaced |
| 01:55.31 | Wobin | argh@iphonebluetoothpairing |
| 01:55.35 | Wobin | FAIL |
| 01:55.55 | Wobin | I'll have to cable tether for the moment =( |
| 02:01.44 | Shirik | omg |
| 02:01.47 | Shirik | TC-Away, halp |
| 02:01.51 | Shirik | I know no photoshop |
| 02:01.57 | Shirik | I'm going to have to watch this dvd I guess :( |
| 02:02.03 | Shirik | it's scaring me |
| 02:02.18 | Dagmar | You were going to photoshop ducks and bunnies into it then? |
| 02:02.21 | Seerah | that's what you get for getting the high end uber complicated version :P |
| 02:04.23 | Shirik | I'm going to have some fun soon :> |
| 02:04.28 | Shirik | I'm probably not going to sleep tonight ( |
| 02:04.46 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 02:04.51 | ScytheBlade1 | why not? |
| 02:05.04 | Shirik | new toys! |
| 02:05.08 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:06.47 | bleeter | weeee https://www.isc.org/node/474 |
| 02:06.53 | bleeter | Urgent: this exploit is public. Please upgrade immediately. |
| 02:07.24 | Shirik | as opposed to all the other full disclosure exploits? |
| 02:07.37 | Shirik | that reminds me, apache vulnerability today too |
| 02:07.39 | Shirik | time to update |
| 02:08.16 | bleeter | Shirik: have you got your hannah monatna linux in VM yet?? |
| 02:08.28 | Shirik | huh? |
| 02:08.41 | bleeter | oh did you miss it? |
| 02:08.47 | bleeter | http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2009/07/27/hannah-montana-linux/ |
| 02:10.25 | Shirik | what the fuck |
| 02:10.27 | Shirik | why |
| 02:11.38 | bleeter | I'm getting it so I can send it as a christmas present to folks such as yourself :P |
| 02:11.58 | Shirik | noty |
| 02:12.22 | bleeter | :'( y u no luv me no moar :'( |
| 02:12.31 | bleeter | well apart from the terrible hacking cough and wheeze I have... :/ |
| 02:12.42 | bleeter | I can understand that being a turnoff |
| 02:19.59 | Drazisil | who the hell made that?! |
| 02:20.14 | Drazisil | and why are they not on the good drugs |
| 02:22.36 | bleeter | to be honest, reads like some pre-teen geek. to quote the good book: 10/10 for effort, minus several zillion for style. |
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| 02:34.40 | ScytheBlade1 | bad proverb: "All roads lead to Wal-Mart." |
| 02:41.10 | NightHawkTheSan1 | and yet, scarily appropriate? |
| 02:42.17 | ScytheBlade1 | pretty much |
| 02:46.34 | bleeter | http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg00009.html |
| 02:46.41 | bleeter | Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes |
| 02:48.23 | ScytheBlade1 | holy crap |
| 02:48.33 | kd3 | ! |
| 02:48.40 | kd3 | picks his jaw up off his desk |
| 02:48.41 | ajmitch | plus they plan to have squeeze out early-mid next year |
| 02:48.55 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 02:49.21 | Arrowmaster | now will this cause testing to be in a frozen state for a longer period of time? |
| 02:49.34 | Arrowmaster | if so i might have to switch from testing to sid |
| 02:50.17 | ajmitch | it'll probably end up being frozen for a similar length of time, but you'll know when a freeze is coming |
| 02:51.04 | Arrowmaster | well when debian does a freeze it means no new upstream versions but instead backporting fixes from upstream versions to the current version |
| 02:51.33 | Arrowmaster | i love debian but i prefer to have new upstream versions instead of backported bugfixes |
| 02:51.40 | ajmitch | no new versions allowed through from sid without the blessing of the release team |
| 02:51.55 | ajmitch | new upstream version inevitably bring regressions |
| 02:52.26 | bleeter | ^^ |
| 02:52.52 | ajmitch | same problem in ubuntu, just at a more rapid pace |
| 02:53.20 | bleeter | s/ubuntu/most other distros/ |
| 02:53.46 | Arrowmaster | except ubuntu has older versions of stuff than debian testing does |
| 02:54.04 | ajmitch | because debian testing in the best case trails sid by about 10 days |
| 02:54.14 | Arrowmaster | 4 days |
| 02:54.28 | ajmitch | standard is 10, unless they changed that recently |
| 02:55.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd consider keeping debian around with that announcement, but them saying "btw we -might- EOL security updates on mozilla products despite the distro as a whole still being maintained" kinda agitated me |
| 02:55.12 | Arrowmaster | afaik its 4 days if no issues are reported and it can build cleanly, if it requires a version of something still suck in sid then it says in sid |
| 02:55.17 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#mozilla-security |
| 02:55.20 | ScytheBlade1 | stupid jerks |
| 02:55.27 | ScytheBlade1 | -.- |
| 02:55.38 | bleeter | Shirik: are there any other types of jerks? :P |
| 02:55.42 | Shirik | ? |
| 02:55.44 | ScytheBlade1 | close |
| 02:55.49 | ajmitch | ScytheBlade1: mozilla's method of dumping out security updates leaves much to be desired |
| 02:56.12 | ScytheBlade1 | ajmitch: sure. but that doesn't change debian's statement much |
| 02:56.32 | bleeter | Shirik: apols, was meant for ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:56.47 | Shirik | wtf do apples have to do with this |
| 02:56.52 | ajmitch | no, but the effort required to support firefox 1.5 (or iceweasel...) is quite a bit |
| 02:57.03 | ScytheBlade1 | oh, totally agreed |
| 02:57.26 | ScytheBlade1 | but to have them say "oh hey, we're shipping them now but no promises" is rather agitating. |
| 02:57.28 | Arrowmaster | i think even having firefox 1.5 available is a problem |
| 02:57.49 | ajmitch | yeah, looks like sarge got 2.0 at least |
| 02:58.00 | Arrowmaster | sarge is oldstable now though |
| 02:58.01 | ajmitch | s/sarge/etch/ |
| 02:58.06 | Arrowmaster | wont be supported for long |
| 02:58.18 | Arrowmaster | er sarge is oldoldstable i mean |
| 02:58.32 | bleeter | ah well everyone canmove to chrome browser and they'll all be happy! ;) |
| 02:58.35 | ajmitch | I was thinking it was the previous release, it didn't feel that long ago |
| 02:58.47 | Arrowmaster | lenny is less than a year old |
| 02:59.20 | Arrowmaster | i think i first started using debian with 3.0 woody |
| 03:00.01 | ajmitch | slink or potato for me, it was sometime in 2000 |
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| 08:37.25 | nevcairiel | ~join #wowace |
| 08:37.46 | nevcairiel | why did that work with #wowuidev but not with wowace :( |
| 08:37.46 | nevcairiel | ag |
| 08:37.48 | nevcairiel | slow :P |
| 08:38.17 | Wobin | cause purl wasn't in wowace? |
| 08:38.27 | nevcairiel | he was |
| 08:38.34 | nevcairiel | but when he crashes he sometimes doesnt rejoin |
| 08:38.37 | nevcairiel | and you can make him :P |
| 08:38.41 | nevcairiel | or her |
| 08:38.44 | nevcairiel | w/e :P |
| 08:39.14 | Wobin | ~gender |
| 08:39.14 | purl | I'm lesbian |
| 08:39.43 | nevcairiel | now we need another lesbian bot and we can get some action going |
| 08:41.51 | krka | "Oh, wouldnât that be great... being a lesbian. All the advantages of being a man, but with less embarrassing genitals. |
| 08:42.05 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 08:44.00 | krka | best tv show: http://fliiby.com/file/314517/9izi8zpai2.html |
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| 08:44.57 | krka | this is where i got the quote btw http://fliiby.com/file/314143/sonz4o1z0u.html |
| 08:46.10 | nevcairiel | haha thats awesome |
| 08:55.58 | Fisker | hello nevcairiel |
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| 09:14.11 | Nihlo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9eNru2WO6Y&feature=related |
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| 09:19.47 | Adirelle|work | hello |
| 09:20.38 | Cairenn | hi |
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| 09:54.40 | Torhal | Fisker: This is my "where did Fisker's face go" face. |
| 09:56.18 | Fisker | this is my "wtf i'm invisible" face? |
| 09:56.38 | Wobin | It looks like Fisker's "I've got my eyes closed face" |
| 09:56.47 | Torhal | BWAH! |
| 09:57.59 | Fisker | how come Torhal can't see me Wobin ? |
| 09:58.19 | Wobin | Maybe he's looking in the wrong direction |
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| 10:04.58 | p3lim | what font is in this text editor? http://p3lim.net/images/desk.jpg |
| 10:05.09 | p3lim | i seem to have misplaced that font during my last format |
| 10:05.14 | Wobin | calibri? |
| 10:05.21 | foxlit | not fixed with, fail. |
| 10:05.25 | foxlit | ^d |
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| 10:05.35 | Arrowmaster | agreed |
| 10:05.42 | Arrowmaster | total fail |
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| 10:19.22 | p3lim | not calibri, for sure |
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| 10:24.27 | p3lim | was Tahoma |
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| 10:52.17 | TopTop18 | I'm trying to create a small fun addon for a friend, but when I test it it won;t even display the loaded message. Anyone knows what's going wrong? TOC: http://toptop18.pastey.net/118768 lua: http://toptop18.pastey.net/118767 |
| 10:53.41 | jnwhiteh | I don't think you can have spaces in addon names |
| 10:53.47 | jnwhiteh | as a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure of it |
| 10:54.26 | TopTop18 | How it comes my other addon dows work with spaces in the name? :S |
| 10:54.39 | jnwhiteh | who knows |
| 10:54.41 | TopTop18 | But I'll try without it :D |
| 10:54.43 | jnwhiteh | but that's the first place to start |
| 10:54.45 | jnwhiteh | should always use _ |
| 10:54.52 | jnwhiteh | spaces aren't portable. |
| 10:55.01 | TopTop18 | Okay, sec testing it |
| 10:55.03 | jnwhiteh | also |
| 10:55.04 | jnwhiteh | print() |
| 10:55.12 | jnwhiteh | instead of ChatFrame1:AddMessage() |
| 10:55.15 | jnwhiteh | also |
| 10:55.15 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 10:55.18 | jnwhiteh | you can't set an OnLoad script in Lua |
| 10:55.20 | jnwhiteh | tha't just doesn't owk |
| 10:55.33 | jnwhiteh | the frame is already created/loaded by the time you set it |
| 10:55.35 | jnwhiteh | thus it never fires. |
| 10:55.40 | jnwhiteh | that's your issue. |
| 10:55.42 | TopTop18 | Ah that'll be it |
| 10:55.44 | TopTop18 | Thanks! |
| 10:56.02 | TopTop18 | Hmm, do it with just registerevent then? |
| 10:56.25 | jnwhiteh | yes |
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| 10:56.32 | jnwhiteh | there's no need for the Onload function there at all |
| 10:56.35 | jnwhiteh | just do what you want to do. |
| 10:56.46 | TopTop18 | Okay :D Still learning :D |
| 10:57.05 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 10:57.06 | jnwhiteh | I know |
| 10:57.18 | TopTop18 | Seems to work now thanks! Gonna die now to test rest xD |
| 11:01.57 | TopTop18 | Hmm it won;t send messages on death and don;t display my test message, conclusion it doesn't register the PLAYER_DEAD event correctly |
| 11:02.23 | jnwhiteh | !api PLAYER_DEAD |
| 11:02.23 | lua_bot | PLAYER_DEAD: Fires when the player dies. (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/PLAYER_DEAD) |
| 11:02.29 | jnwhiteh | did you verify the event fired? |
| 11:02.32 | jnwhiteh | i mean |
| 11:02.35 | jnwhiteh | a register event doesn't 'fail' |
| 11:02.37 | jnwhiteh | it just happens. |
| 11:03.08 | TopTop18 | It happens, but probably my addon doesn't handle it correctly |
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| 11:04.39 | laeg | i'm a a 3 man group lf more people but lfg isn't displayed and the leader says we're in it |
| 11:04.58 | TopTop18 | LFG is per person I think |
| 11:05.01 | laeg | it used to not be displayed when i was alone lfg which i fixed my making sure it was set to display in options but now when i check the chat options it's not there at all |
| 11:05.09 | laeg | TopTop18: that's bfg |
| 11:05.26 | TopTop18 | bfg? |
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| 11:14.19 | TopTop18 | It isn;t sending messages, channel or test, can't seem to figure out where it fails, but the if code don;t run on death, code: http://toptop18.pastey.net/118769 |
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| 11:26.47 | TopTop18 | Found the error after some research, testing now |
| 11:30.07 | TopTop18 | Works now, thanks Jnwhiteh! |
| 11:32.45 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:37.39 | Wobin | damn |
| 11:37.44 | Wobin | where's tekkub when you want him? |
| 11:38.15 | Wobin | Do you all recall the "Lust" competition that had so much furor due to the mysogeny prevalent at the SDCC? |
| 11:38.40 | Wobin | Apparently one dude won the runner up prize by taking a photo with a "Booth Bear" instead =P |
| 11:40.32 | Wobin | sigh, why am I reading Reddit? |
| 11:40.36 | Wobin | this is never ending |
| 11:40.41 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 11:41.40 | Wobin | I narrowly avoided losing a day to tvtropes.org earlier today =\ |
| 11:41.56 | Wobin | but I may have fallen into the Reddit rut while averting my eyes =( |
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| 11:52.02 | TopTop18 | Oh and Jnwhiteh, spaces are allowe din addon names :D |
| 11:52.07 | jnwhiteh | just because they are |
| 11:52.10 | jnwhiteh | doesn't make it a good idea =) |
| 11:52.18 | jnwhiteh | and i'd strongly suggest against it. |
| 11:52.40 | TopTop18 | Hmm makes sense :D But it looks better :D |
| 11:52.51 | Proditor | Anyone here who happens to know if it's possible to completely reset a Git repo on Curseforge? |
| 11:52.52 | jnwhiteh | .. spaces look better |
| 11:52.54 | jnwhiteh | I couldn't disagree more. |
| 11:53.10 | jnwhiteh | Proditor: I think you can change it to an hg repo and then change it back and that would reset it |
| 11:53.15 | jnwhiteh | btu that was a while ago |
| 11:53.19 | jnwhiteh | might want to ask in #curseforge |
| 11:53.34 | nevcairiel | You can just create a new local repo |
| 11:53.37 | nevcairiel | and force-push it |
| 11:53.46 | TopTop18 | Well I think they are, will never use spaces in variable names though, but filenames are okay to me(not that they're even allowed in variable names xD) |
| 11:53.54 | Proditor | jnwhiteh: thanks, asked there already but no response :-p gonna try what you said though |
| 11:54.15 | jnwhiteh | Proditor: or listen to nevcairiel |
| 11:54.45 | Proditor | nevcairiel: thank you :) |
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| 12:06.56 | Wobin | oh dear. Relistening to Dr Horrible's SAB while looking for the Bad Horse ringtone |
| 12:07.04 | Wobin | I really liked this show =P |
| 12:07.10 | jnwhiteh | its hilarious |
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| 12:41.48 | Lopeppeppy | Windoze drives me crazy in the morning... work network is slooooooow. |
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| 13:07.42 | Fisker | wow |
| 13:07.44 | Fisker | This just in |
| 13:07.54 | Fisker | Battle.net allows bruteforcers to compromise your account |
| 13:08.03 | Fisker | No wonder battle.net is so slow then |
| 13:08.03 | Fisker | :D |
| 13:08.12 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: why is that? |
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| 13:08.24 | jnwhiteh | no lockout for repeated authentication attempts? |
| 13:08.58 | Lopeppeppy | Authenticators for the win? |
| 13:09.11 | Fisker | should be jnwhiteh |
| 13:09.34 | Fisker | Just another compromised accountholder claiming that there's a security issue on Blizzard's side |
| 13:09.52 | jnwhiteh | word! |
| 13:10.03 | Fisker | ObvÃously SRP is insecure |
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| 13:10.22 | Lopeppeppy | It's never the account-holder's fault. |
| 13:10.58 | Fisker | it's the hackers fault |
| 13:11.00 | Fisker | :D |
| 13:11.24 | Fisker | Blizzard should almost adopt a strict "no-bullshit" rule |
| 13:11.46 | Fisker | If you post a topic like "OMG YOUR SUPPORT SUCKS MY ACCOUNT IS HACKED" = Fuck you, reclaim the account yourself douchebag |
| 13:14.43 | Lopeppeppy | That would be awesome. |
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| 13:18.59 | Fisker | lol |
| 13:19.08 | Fisker | just got an e-mail from some support staff at a hardware store |
| 13:19.43 | Fisker | Down in the bottom they have a lot of company logos and a "Please think of the enviroment before printing this mail" |
| 13:19.52 | Fisker | Maybe you shouldn't include a buttload of company logos then? :D |
| 13:20.24 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet, all of my work servers are down. *sigh* |
| 13:20.58 | mikma | now, blizzard should release us a "complate wow" packages that have a) authenticator, b) classic+bc+wrath all in one install, c) minipets! |
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| 13:21.26 | Fisker | They should add the minipet to the battle.net merge |
| 13:21.33 | Fisker | + maybe a minipet for mobile authenticator/authenticator |
| 13:23.09 | Fisker | Also some guy who asked if merging his accounts to battle.net would mean only paying 1 subscription at the â¬14,99 a month |
| 13:23.27 | Fisker | When i told him no he replied "Well what's the fucking point then?" :D |
| 13:23.38 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
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| 13:25.18 | dardack | i'll tell you the point, when everyone was having autehnticating issues last week, everyone i knew with a merged account was able to log in fine |
| 13:26.20 | Kraps | morning peoples |
| 13:26.26 | Lopeppeppy | hi hi |
| 13:26.45 | Fisker | dardack the reverse has happened as well |
| 13:26.53 | Fisker | where b.net was unable to login but normal were working fine |
| 13:26.54 | dardack | yea i know heh |
| 13:26.54 | Lopeppeppy | Random crap is random |
| 13:27.04 | dardack | i like my merged tho i have both accounts under 1 login |
| 13:27.04 | Fisker | But hey they can do it the hard way |
| 13:27.07 | dardack | with my authenticator |
| 13:27.14 | Fisker | Just shut down the normal authentication servers and tell people to merge |
| 13:27.21 | Fisker | They're gonna do it sooner or later |
| 13:27.25 | Fisker | might as well be sooner :P |
| 13:27.47 | Kraps | b.net is really a plan to control all of our accounts!!!!! |
| 13:27.52 | Lopeppeppy | I would imagine they are doing other work right now, and don't want to get into that thing... |
| 13:27.53 | Kraps | oh wait |
| 13:28.15 | Fisker | Well b.net is going to be mandatory Kraps |
| 13:28.22 | Kraps | i know |
| 13:28.39 | Kraps | i merged before the summer |
| 13:29.23 | Wobin | oh dear =( |
| 13:29.42 | Wobin | news says that this year's bushfire season in Victoria, Australia may be -worse- than last years =\ |
| 13:30.31 | Lopeppeppy | *sigh* |
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| 13:32.22 | Fisker | don't worry Lopeppeppy it's not that kind of bush fire |
| 13:32.25 | Fisker | rofls |
| 13:32.56 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.20 | Lopeppeppy | Huh? |
| 13:33.31 | Wobin | Fisker: Normally, I'd ignore the troll... but unfortunately I'm being entirely serious. |
| 13:33.34 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, wait, that was a crude joke, I get it, ha ha. |
| 13:34.04 | Fisker | i'm a horrible person Wobin :( |
| 13:34.52 | Kraps | ding ding! |
| 13:34.54 | Wobin | Sorry, but the number of deaths that occurred last year was horrific, especially since we could do so little |
| 13:37.20 | Wobin | 4,500 sqkm burnt out. 3,500 structures destroyed, 173 confirmed deaths |
| 13:39.18 | Wobin | and if -this- summer is going to be -worse-... |
| 13:39.43 | Kraps | "I'm never going to refuse to do something we think is good for the game because it might upset the community. Sorry. My goal is to make a good game, not placate the community" |
| 13:39.56 | Kraps | OMG FIRE GC |
| 13:40.02 | nevcairiel | ~GC++ |
| 13:40.06 | Fisker | sounds like a ret topic Kraps |
| 13:40.07 | Wobin | some CM -he- is =P |
| 13:40.15 | Fisker | he's a designer actually |
| 13:40.16 | Kraps | Fisker: ya |
| 13:40.25 | nevcairiel | yeah he is no CM, he just trolls the forums =P |
| 13:40.26 | Kraps | walls of text |
| 13:41.02 | Fisker | tbh blizzard have fucked up paladins yet again |
| 13:41.19 | nevcairiel | they should just delete the class and be done with it |
| 13:41.20 | Fisker | Either we're ants or we're goliath |
| 13:41.25 | Fisker | doesn't seem to be a middleground |
| 13:41.54 | Fisker | They need to completely redesign the class in the next expansion |
| 13:42.00 | Wobin | "The Light called, all pallies are going home" |
| 13:42.01 | Fisker | think they also hinted they wanted to do that |
| 13:42.19 | Wobin | "We are renaming them 'Life Knights'" |
| 13:42.48 | Wobin | They shall have runes of "Flowers". "Bunnies" and "Candy" |
| 13:43.02 | Kraps | "Ret paladins may have been slightly behind in Ulduar, at least until they got very good weapons." warriors hellooooooooo |
| 13:46.29 | Kraps | "I can point you to threads by just about every class in the game (maybe not rogues) arguing their dps is too low." |
| 13:46.33 | Kraps | ... |
| 13:46.51 | Kraps | did he have to call them out? |
| 13:47.25 | Wobin | The rogues were hoping noone'd notice =P |
| 13:49.28 | Lopeppeppy | Rogues stay quiet. :) |
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| 13:56.36 | Kraps | i cant post on the forums (deathpall) |
| 13:57.23 | Kraps | how do i find out why i was banned? |
| 13:58.02 | Wobin | contact customersupport? |
| 13:58.13 | Wobin | Does it specifically say you're banned? |
| 13:58.22 | Wobin | Also, are you being rebilled today? |
| 13:58.32 | Wobin | cause that has issues with logging into the forums |
| 13:58.54 | Wobin | there's usually a day or so where you can't log in |
| 13:59.36 | Kraps | i can log in, just all my avatars are "*The characters on this account are unavailable, as the account has expired or is prohibited from posting." |
| 14:00.39 | Kraps | i am being billed today |
| 14:00.54 | Kraps | or was |
| 14:01.13 | Kraps | Your Visa will be automatically billed on July 29, 2009 4:11:44 AM |
| 14:01.30 | Kraps | its 10 oclock already |
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| 14:06.55 | dardack | do dk's post their dps is too low? |
| 14:07.36 | nevcairiel | everyone does |
| 14:10.22 | Wobin | Kraps: yeah, that'll be it |
| 14:10.28 | Wobin | Kraps: you won't be able to post for a day or so |
| 14:10.48 | Wobin | bloody irritating, but it's saved me a couple of times from posting during that Wowmatrix crap =P |
| 14:11.45 | dardack | i always thought for barely any gear when i tried out dps from tanking, that my dps was pretty high comparatively |
| 14:12.22 | Slafsinator | problem is that people suck like vacuum cleaners |
| 14:12.29 | Slafsinator | which leads them to believe the class is the problem |
| 14:12.51 | Slafsinator | level 80 DKs doing 800 DPS on trash packs etc, people are that bad :) |
| 14:13.33 | dardack | really? |
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| 14:13.54 | Slafsinator | yes |
| 14:14.00 | Wobin | are they facing the wrong way? |
| 14:14.04 | Slafsinator | I've no idea |
| 14:14.33 | Slafsinator | I've encountered multiple level 75-80 DKs being unable to push 1000 DPS, and ending up at ~600-800 DPS avg |
| 14:14.37 | dardack | man i always tanked, and like 2 weeks ago we started running 25 Ulduar with another guild, so since i'm DK easy for me to DPS, so spec'd blood (trying the hybid blood with ub/perma ghoul) and was able to pull 4.3k |
| 14:14.42 | Slafsinator | I usually end up scratching my head |
| 14:15.09 | dardack | i know that's like raid buffed, but on the dummy i can pull 3.2k self buffed |
| 14:15.16 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=13987#comments |
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| 14:19.01 | dardack | i mean dk's can faceroll to like 2k dps at least |
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| 14:19.59 | Slafsinator | dardack: http://zapchud.com/wow/best_feral_druid_in_the_world.jpeg (the durid not at the bottom was healing, I was tanking), http://zapchud.com/wow/best_feral_druid_in_the_world.jpeg (me also tanking here) |
| 14:20.09 | Slafsinator | http://zapchud.com/wow/good_power_dk.jpeg <- 2nd link >_< |
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| 14:20.37 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 14:20.38 | Wobin | actually |
| 14:20.39 | jnwhiteh | i met a DK |
| 14:20.41 | jnwhiteh | who fought at range |
| 14:20.46 | jnwhiteh | stood back, spammed icy touch |
| 14:20.49 | jnwhiteh | and death coil |
| 14:20.52 | Wobin | I suspect that a major factor for the terrible DKs is a lack of hitrating |
| 14:20.53 | jnwhiteh | mikma: was in that group i think |
| 14:21.10 | jnwhiteh | that may have been the worst day of my life. |
| 14:21.10 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: You sure he wasn't.. um.. rooted or something? |
| 14:21.13 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 14:21.14 | dardack | wobin not just htiraiting do you know how many have SP gear |
| 14:21.14 | jnwhiteh | he ran |
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| 14:21.15 | jnwhiteh | out of range |
| 14:21.16 | dardack | WTF |
| 14:21.17 | jnwhiteh | and turned around |
| 14:21.22 | jnwhiteh | he said he was a "ranged DK" |
| 14:21.24 | jnwhiteh | and was dead serious |
| 14:21.25 | Wobin | dardack: oh god, yes |
| 14:21.35 | Wobin | ahahahaa |
| 14:21.41 | Wobin | that's like a munter |
| 14:21.43 | dardack | jnwhiteh: that's hilarious |
| 14:21.58 | dardack | i think people don't read anything that DK's sp comes from their AP |
| 14:22.00 | Wobin | I like calling melee hunters, munters, cause it just sounds so much more insulting |
| 14:22.19 | dardack | i know i love hunters that pick up a chance on hit weapons (not a ranged one mind you) |
| 14:22.36 | Wobin | dardack: that's cause everything's a hunter weapon |
| 14:22.40 | Wobin | (except maces) |
| 14:22.50 | dardack | every listen to that's the world of warcraft that you play |
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| 14:22.57 | dardack | man the hunter part of that is hilarious |
| 14:23.36 | dardack | like i remember running zf over and over and over on my warr when i was bored to get the epic and some hunter wanted to roll on the 1h that dropped the first time cause you know the 2h is a great huntard weapon |
| 14:23.54 | dardack | although i think the new huntard are DK's now |
| 14:24.22 | Wobin | it's true |
| 14:24.24 | dardack | sometimes i miss vanilla wow and all the little intricacies of it, where you might mention something from back then and only the people from back then have a clue what you are talking about |
| 14:24.28 | Wobin | their accessibility has caused that |
| 14:24.38 | dardack | i'm thinking that SW TOR could take me away from WoW |
| 14:24.58 | dardack | i tried galaxies at same time as WoW back when WoW first came out and I couldn't get into it |
| 14:25.13 | Wobin | it will be hard to replace WoW |
| 14:25.20 | dardack | But i've always wanted a SW MMO that was good |
| 14:25.49 | dardack | not replace wow I don't expect to ever take down WoW, unless Blizz takes down wow, i mena in my mind Blizz is probably the best game developer ever, |
| 14:26.09 | dardack | Just to put in 5 years in 1 game |
| 14:26.12 | dardack | wellc oming up on 5 |
| 14:26.18 | dardack | november 04 was release i think |
| 14:27.14 | Wobin | good night all |
| 14:27.21 | mikma | nn |
| 14:29.54 | dardack | Slafsinator: i just read the whisper in that one screenshot, hilarious |
| 14:30.02 | Slafsinator | :) |
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| 14:32.03 | Drazisil | Is there a way to search if an NPC is in sight? |
| 14:32.12 | jnwhiteh | .. target him |
| 14:32.14 | jnwhiteh | otherwise, no. |
| 14:32.58 | Drazisil | Is there a way to programmably tab though all the visible NPCs? |
| 14:33.01 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 14:33.07 | jnwhiteh | that sort of behavior is explicitly prohibited. |
| 14:33.15 | Drazisil | Figured. |
| 14:33.29 | krka | can't you do stuff like /target a /target b |
| 14:33.32 | krka | and see what sticks? |
| 14:34.00 | jnwhiteh | krka: yes, but that's no different than just targeting the mob you want |
| 14:34.05 | jnwhiteh | if it succeeds with /targetexact |
| 14:34.08 | jnwhiteh | then the mob is visible |
| 14:34.33 | Drazisil | Can you /target with Lua, or just macro? |
| 14:34.45 | jnwhiteh | it always requires user input |
| 14:35.01 | jnwhiteh | clicking a button, running a keybind or typing it in the edit box. |
| 14:35.10 | jnwhiteh | you cannot call TargetUnit() |
| 14:35.32 | Drazisil | So there is no easy way to run /target in a loop. |
| 14:35.37 | jnwhiteh | its not possible. |
| 14:35.42 | jnwhiteh | its not just that there isn't an easy way |
| 14:35.47 | jnwhiteh | the user much manually tab |
| 14:35.52 | Drazisil | Do macros take loops? |
| 14:35.54 | jnwhiteh | No |
| 14:35.56 | dardack | npcscan uses your cache having a rare mob inserted into your cache |
| 14:36.00 | krka | A G15 might work i suppose |
| 14:36.04 | dardack | but if you ever see one you have to clear your cache |
| 14:36.08 | krka | to some extent |
| 14:36.12 | jnwhiteh | dardack: that's quite different from whether or not a mob is visible. |
| 14:36.22 | dardack | well if it's inserted isn't it visiable? |
| 14:36.24 | Drazisil | Yah, I saw that. What's a G15? |
| 14:36.31 | dardack | cause i've always been able to target it when i get the notification |
| 14:36.43 | jnwhiteh | dardack: there's no specific guarantee of that, but yes its likely |
| 14:36.47 | dardack | oh ok |
| 14:38.35 | mikma | well.. |
| 14:38.41 | mikma | you can do a macro that changes |
| 14:38.47 | mikma | but they are kinda icky |
| 14:39.23 | Drazisil | Can a macro call itselt or another macro? |
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| 14:40.11 | Kraps | i have a /macro macro |
| 14:40.14 | Kraps | ... |
| 14:40.30 | mikma | well you can make a macro with does /script RunMacro() |
| 14:40.39 | mikma | !api RunMacro |
| 14:41.03 | lua_bot | RunMacro: Runs a macro (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/RunMacro) |
| 14:41.31 | Drazisil | So I could create a macro that does a /target, then calls a /script wait, then truies the /target again. |
| 14:41.35 | jnwhiteh | no. |
| 14:41.40 | jnwhiteh | what you want to do |
| 14:41.42 | jnwhiteh | is not possible |
| 14:41.46 | mikma | you can't do that.. |
| 14:41.48 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sure how else to express that to you |
| 14:41.53 | mikma | targeting requires a keypress |
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| 14:42.10 | Drazisil | Well, yes, to start it. |
| 14:42.14 | mikma | here, have a look how i did it... |
| 14:42.43 | mikma | http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=mikma&path=%2FRareMacro%2FRareMacro.lua |
| 14:43.08 | jnwhiteh | mikma: and requires x keypresses, for the number of mobs in the zone.. right? |
| 14:43.33 | mikma | 1 keypress goes through a predefined list of /targetexact |
| 14:43.53 | Drazisil | That's what I was saying. |
| 14:43.53 | mikma | that will work well if there's only 1 named mob you are after |
| 14:43.59 | jnwhiteh | Drazisil: no it's not. |
| 14:44.06 | Drazisil | Well, trying to. |
| 14:44.11 | jnwhiteh | And it amount to PRECISELY the same thing I said |
| 14:44.14 | jnwhiteh | if you want to know if a mob is visible |
| 14:44.19 | jnwhiteh | then /targetexact <mob Name> |
| 14:44.21 | mikma | you can run /targetexact several times in one macro |
| 14:44.23 | jnwhiteh | will accomplish that. |
| 14:44.26 | jnwhiteh | mikma: of course |
| 14:44.29 | mikma | but if the names are common names... |
| 14:44.38 | mikma | you are screwed cause it will always stop on the first match |
| 14:44.58 | Drazisil | What's the different between /target and /targetexact? |
| 14:45.01 | jnwhiteh | Drazisil: it would help if you could tell us what you're trying to accomplish |
| 14:45.06 | jnwhiteh | rather than telling us how you want to implement it. |
| 14:45.15 | jnwhiteh | Drazisil: one only targets if the name EXACTLY matches the argument |
| 14:45.17 | mikma | dardack: /target foo -> will target foololbarhai |
| 14:45.20 | jnwhiteh | the other does partial matching. |
| 14:45.21 | mikma | if there's no "foo" around |
| 14:45.29 | dardack | mikma: i wasn't asking |
| 14:45.38 | mikma | dardack: sorry |
| 14:45.40 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:45.47 | Drazisil | I'm trying to scan for Lil Timmy as I walk around Stormwind |
| 14:46.07 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:46.08 | mikma | done |
| 14:46.13 | mikma | spam the macro. |
| 14:46.14 | jnwhiteh | yep, that is all you need. |
| 14:46.18 | jnwhiteh | no loops, nothing else |
| 14:46.18 | jnwhiteh | just that |
| 14:46.24 | jnwhiteh | and you can't do it programatically.. |
| 14:46.34 | jnwhiteh | you have to press a key everytime you want to check |
| 14:46.37 | Drazisil | without havting to /target all the time,,,I just want a loop of /targets...with a pause between checks |
| 14:46.43 | jnwhiteh | that |
| 14:46.43 | jnwhiteh | as I said |
| 14:46.45 | jnwhiteh | is not possible. |
| 14:46.45 | dardack | i would love some input on some good buf display mods, i'm using shadowedunitframe for my Unit Frames, and so far I like it alot, not bloated but I don't have to edit lua files like oUF anymore, but it doesn't seem to 1 be able to order the buffs to mine first, and I kinda rather have a specific buff mod I think |
| 14:47.02 | dardack | yea just spam the macro |
| 14:47.04 | mikma | drazisil: yes, impossible like jnwhiteh said. |
| 14:47.12 | jnwhiteh | (has said 4 times now) |
| 14:47.12 | dardack | i usually tie it t like mouse down |
| 14:47.18 | mikma | your best try is to add the names in same macro and spam the button |
| 14:47.18 | dardack | and ride around the area spamming mouse down |
| 14:47.32 | mikma | that's how my RareMacro works |
| 14:47.43 | mikma | changes the names in the macro when you zone into that zone rares |
| 14:47.51 | mikma | then i just spam spam spam the button when i'm flying around |
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| 14:51.38 | dardack | so anyone want to recommend a good buff mod? i've looked at some and i'm just like eh right now |
| 14:53.09 | aesir | If you looked at some, you probably saw Satrina Buff Frames. Which is what I would have suggested. |
| 14:53.11 | Slafsinator | buffalo, satrina buff frames |
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| 14:54.08 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9798-SimpleBuffBars.html |
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| 15:05.02 | dardack | thanks guys |
| 15:05.28 | anesthesia | I have tomtom and tourguide install...i had questhleper but disabled it. Now, the tomtom arrow is not showing, even when enabled...can yall help? |
| 15:05.47 | jnwhiteh | type /tomtom to make sure its loaded |
| 15:05.49 | jnwhiteh | then type /way 50 50 |
| 15:05.54 | jnwhiteh | what zone are you in? what class? |
| 15:06.01 | anesthesia | paladin, fathermoon |
| 15:06.01 | Ackis | wait isn't tomtom bugged? :P |
| 15:06.03 | Seerah | http://www.thinkgeek.com/contests/10yearSweepstakes/?cpg=99H |
| 15:06.03 | anesthesia | brb |
| 15:06.13 | Ackis | http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-baby-killed_N.htm VERY disturbing |
| 15:06.25 | anesthesia | Ok the /way brought up the arrow |
| 15:06.27 | anesthesia | Thanks! |
| 15:06.35 | anesthesia | Now, how do i get it configured with tourguie? |
| 15:06.37 | Seerah | yeah, I saw that the other day, Ackis... :( :( |
| 15:06.47 | jnwhiteh | anesthesia: it should just work with absolutely nothing else. |
| 15:06.59 | anesthesia | Ok, but it had /way 50,50 in now? |
| 15:07.53 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sure what that means |
| 15:07.58 | jnwhiteh | first, it's not 50,50 |
| 15:07.59 | jnwhiteh | its 50 50 |
| 15:08.01 | jnwhiteh | no comma |
| 15:08.08 | jnwhiteh | and i use the decimal point as the decimal separator |
| 15:08.14 | jnwhiteh | for 45 and a half is 45.5 |
| 15:08.16 | jnwhiteh | not 45,5 |
| 15:08.30 | jnwhiteh | but I'm not sure what you're asking at the moment. |
| 15:09.03 | mikma | free buttsecks |
| 15:09.17 | anesthesia | can questhelper be used with tourguide? it is so much better than tomtom |
| 15:09.28 | jnwhiteh | .. huh? |
| 15:09.36 | jnwhiteh | No, I don't think it can |
| 15:09.42 | jnwhiteh | btu I'd like to hear how it's "better" than TomTom |
| 15:09.47 | Seerah | ??? |
| 15:09.54 | jnwhiteh | considering the two addons aren't even remotely comparable. |
| 15:09.59 | anesthesia | it tells me exactly where to go and puts it on my map |
| 15:10.07 | mikma | .. |
| 15:10.08 | jnwhiteh | so does TourGuide + TomTom |
| 15:10.09 | jnwhiteh | .. |
| 15:10.11 | jnwhiteh | precisely, actually |
| 15:10.15 | anesthesia | tomtom aint done nothing yet |
| 15:10.17 | jnwhiteh | and if you want to use QuestHelper, use QuestHelper |
| 15:10.24 | jnwhiteh | anesthesia: .. it doesn't magically do things |
| 15:10.28 | mikma | eh |
| 15:10.30 | jnwhiteh | when you typed /way 50 50 |
| 15:10.36 | jnwhiteh | it should have come up with a waypoint on your map and an arrow |
| 15:10.37 | jnwhiteh | did it not? |
| 15:10.37 | anesthesia | i typed /way 50,50 |
| 15:10.39 | mikma | do we need to teach you how to use the addons you download? |
| 15:10.43 | jnwhiteh | its not 50,50 |
| 15:10.46 | jnwhiteh | iv'e said that three times now. |
| 15:10.47 | jnwhiteh | its /way 50 50 |
| 15:10.50 | anesthesia | i know |
| 15:10.53 | anesthesia | but i typed 50,50 |
| 15:10.55 | jnwhiteh | .. |
| 15:10.57 | jnwhiteh | why? |
| 15:11.05 | anesthesia | because i thought u were doing coordinates |
| 15:11.10 | Seerah | he was |
| 15:11.10 | jnwhiteh | I am |
| 15:11.15 | Ackis | see jnwhiteh I told you tomtom was bugged!!! lol |
| 15:11.29 | Seerah | ~lart Ackis |
| 15:11.29 | purl | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at Ackis |
| 15:11.31 | jnwhiteh | I was having you test to ensure TomTom was loaded properly |
| 15:11.37 | anesthesia | well i think it is |
| 15:11.46 | anesthesia | now it is telling me to go to "waypoint" |
| 15:11.50 | Ackis | ~huggles Seerah |
| 15:11.51 | Seerah | good |
| 15:12.07 | jnwhiteh | anesthesia: have you selected a guide in TourGuide? |
| 15:12.11 | anesthesia | Yes |
| 15:12.17 | Seerah | click on a coordinate yet? |
| 15:12.23 | jnwhiteh | Seerah: you don't do that with TourGuide |
| 15:12.25 | anesthesia | i gotta click on it? |
| 15:12.29 | Seerah | bah |
| 15:12.29 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 15:12.30 | jnwhiteh | *sigh8 |
| 15:12.36 | jnwhiteh | anesthesia: what does tourguide tell you to do? |
| 15:12.45 | jnwhiteh | what is it saying right now. |
| 15:12.53 | anesthesia | The Ruins of Solaralisl(sp?) |
| 15:12.54 | batbot | anesthesia, nothing found. |
| 15:12.59 | anesthesia | I gotta go get that quest |
| 15:13.06 | jnwhiteh | so go there, and get the quest |
| 15:13.10 | anesthesia | i dont know where it is |
| 15:13.15 | anesthesia | isnt tomtom suppose to tell me? |
| 15:13.15 | jnwhiteh | then you need to install somethign that does |
| 15:13.18 | jnwhiteh | llike LightHeaded |
| 15:13.18 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 15:13.23 | jnwhiteh | TomTom is JUST a waypoint mod |
| 15:13.26 | Seerah | TomTom is just waypoints |
| 15:13.27 | jnwhiteh | it doesn't have any information |
| 15:13.33 | mikma | jnwhiteh: hey your phone is ringing, go and check it in the other room |
| 15:13.34 | jnwhiteh | it just gives addons like tourguide a way to place waypoints |
| 15:13.49 | anesthesia | oh......so where do i get this lightheaded |
| 15:13.57 | jnwhiteh | http://wowinterface.com |
| 15:14.03 | jnwhiteh | TourGuide uses it to query NPC coordinate information |
| 15:14.05 | Seerah | the same place you got TourGuide and TomTom ;) :) |
| 15:14.06 | jnwhiteh | among other things |
| 15:14.16 | jnwhiteh | Seerah: they might have gotten tomTom at Curse, so not entirely true. |
| 15:14.19 | anesthesia | i used curse |
| 15:14.31 | Seerah | bleh then. why do I try? :P |
| 15:14.39 | anesthesia | lightheaded is not in curse when i search for it? |
| 15:14.45 | jnwhiteh | as I said |
| 15:14.46 | jnwhiteh | its not on curse |
| 15:14.47 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: it gives ARL a way to place to place waypoints too! :( |
| 15:14.49 | jnwhiteh | its on http://wowinterface.com |
| 15:15.03 | anesthesia | they should put it on curse |
| 15:15.05 | anesthesia | curse is way easy |
| 15:15.06 | mikma | jnwhiteh: get http://getcladdons.com |
| 15:15.07 | Seerah | omg |
| 15:15.08 | jnwhiteh | No, thank you |
| 15:15.22 | jnwhiteh | I have no plans to post LightHeaded on Curse at this time. |
| 15:15.31 | Seerah | mikma: nice |
| 15:15.39 | Ackis | ~jnwhiteh++ |
| 15:15.52 | anesthesia | do you own lightheaded? |
| 15:15.57 | jnwhiteh | its my addon, yes. |
| 15:16.04 | mikma | but.. but |
| 15:16.05 | anesthesia | omg! your like famous |
| 15:16.08 | mikma | you are not cladhaire |
| 15:16.10 | mikma | you are jnwhiteh |
| 15:16.18 | anesthesia | that is so freaking cool |
| 15:16.20 | jnwhiteh | no, I'm just an addon author |
| 15:16.25 | anesthesia | i never talked to an addon maker nefore |
| 15:16.33 | mikma | yes you have |
| 15:16.38 | klip | lol |
| 15:16.40 | jnwhiteh | most of the people in this room are "famous" addon authors by that standard :P |
| 15:16.45 | Seerah | most of us here are :P |
| 15:17.02 | anesthesia | brb i did the thingy into my addon folder so im gonna go try it |
| 15:17.16 | jnwhiteh | anesthesia: please makr sure its installed correctly |
| 15:17.26 | jnwhiteh | there should have been 5 or 6 folders that need to go into yoru addons folder |
| 15:17.38 | Seerah | for lightheaded, to clarify |
| 15:17.38 | jnwhiteh | common mistake is just to unzip it it one folder, and have it not work correctly. |
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| 15:18.47 | dardack | most people here are authors |
| 15:18.56 | Drazisil | jnwhiteh: How does TomTom compare to Questhelper? Pros and Cons. |
| 15:18.57 | anesthesia | ooops...i put it into something like..."/addons/ is that not right? |
| 15:19.00 | Seerah | is glad to have already finished her Instant Breakfast. would have had chocolate shake on the keyboard otherwise |
| 15:19.08 | dardack | tomtom is nothing like QH |
| 15:19.11 | dardack | QH is a quest mod |
| 15:19.15 | dardack | tomtom is a waypoint mod |
| 15:19.19 | dardack | BTW love tomtom |
| 15:19.30 | jnwhiteh | anesthesia: You need to put multiple folders there |
| 15:19.38 | jnwhiteh | anesthesia: When you unzip lightheaded, there is a readme.txt and a few folders |
| 15:19.40 | mikma | anesthesia: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/faq.php?faq=install#faq_howto_install |
| 15:19.41 | anesthesia | i put all of them into /addon |
| 15:19.46 | jnwhiteh | all of those folders need to be put into your addons directly |
| 15:19.47 | Drazisil | Maybe I meant Cartographer? |
| 15:19.47 | jnwhiteh | then you should be fine |
| 15:19.53 | anesthesia | It is working fine |
| 15:20.06 | anesthesia | I dunno how you got the time to find the coordinates of every single thing in the game, but good job |
| 15:20.22 | Ackis | lots of monkeys |
| 15:20.25 | Ackis | with typewritters |
| 15:20.36 | anesthesia | i am going to go play now!!!!!! |
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| 15:20.39 | anesthesia | thanks so much yall |
| 15:20.49 | dardack | Drazisil: cartographer is a mapmod, that does have waypoints as part of one of it's modules |
| 15:21.07 | Kaelten | ~jnwhiteh++ |
| 15:21.17 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 15:21.21 | dardack | think with tomtom that's nice, just set a Waypoint and fly, no FP"s is nice |
| 15:21.38 | Drazisil | So it's not a case of one over the other...they both can get along together? |
| 15:21.50 | dardack | yea |
| 15:22.03 | dardack | just if you have cart's waypoint mod you prolly don't need tomtom |
| 15:22.12 | dardack | unless another mod specifically uses tomtom for it's waypoints |
| 15:22.19 | jnwhiteh | btu if you're using anythig other than cart3 |
| 15:22.20 | jnwhiteh | you should cry |
| 15:22.25 | jnwhiteh | i.e. if you're still using cart1/cart2 |
| 15:22.31 | dardack | i use mapster and no cart anymore |
| 15:22.33 | dardack | oh oh |
| 15:22.36 | dardack | nvm then |
| 15:22.36 | Drazisil | Will LightHeaded work with Cart? |
| 15:22.50 | dardack | lightheaded i believe is just a database of wowhead comments for quests |
| 15:22.53 | dardack | i could be wrong |
| 15:23.15 | dardack | obviously the author is here and could tell you, but yes it does work with cart |
| 15:23.17 | jnwhiteh | dardack: you are correct |
| 15:23.27 | jnwhiteh | Drazisil: yes, it will send waypoints to Cart3 |
| 15:23.33 | jnwhiteh | actually Cart2 sadly as well |
| 15:23.53 | Drazisil | Well yes, but I saw that LightHeaded advised using TomTom as well and I wondered what, if anything, I would be mising by not having it. |
| 15:23.58 | dardack | yea i thought so, i don't use any tourguides anything right now, i kinda just know nwo cause i've done every quest a ton of times |
| 15:24.07 | jnwhiteh | it doesn't "advise" it just says it works well with TomTom |
| 15:24.12 | jnwhiteh | and that's natural, since I wrote both addons. |
| 15:24.20 | Drazisil | And me curse says I have cart2 so I shall kick it and go find Cart2 |
| 15:24.25 | dardack | but the new blizz built in quest thing i'm waiting to see how it is |
| 15:24.41 | dardack | cart3 is like the google map one right? |
| 15:24.50 | Fisker | didn't they pull the quest thing? |
| 15:25.01 | dardack | they did fisker? |
| 15:25.03 | dardack | hmm |
| 15:25.09 | Seerah | it's not in the patch notes |
| 15:25.15 | dardack | ahh |
| 15:25.16 | dardack | damn |
| 15:25.16 | Seerah | and I heard that it was pulled from the ptr as well |
| 15:25.24 | dardack | well that sux |
| 15:26.21 | Drazisil | jnwhiteh: If I may ask, why don't you want to put the addons on curse? |
| 15:27.09 | mikma | no you may not ask! |
| 15:27.18 | Drazisil | cries |
| 15:27.22 | mikma | it's a govermential secret |
| 15:27.27 | mikma | if we tell you we need to kill you |
| 15:27.30 | jnwhiteh | Drazisil: some are on curse |
| 15:27.36 | jnwhiteh | LightHeaded is not |
| 15:27.40 | jnwhiteh | not much more needs to be said. |
| 15:27.50 | jnwhiteh | I could come up with 100 reasons, but someone would find fault in any of them |
| 15:27.56 | jnwhiteh | so *shrug* |
| 15:28.01 | Ackis | I bet I could find fault in all of them |
| 15:28.24 | Drazisil | That's true...I wasn't trying to make a case one way or the other...was just wondering |
| 15:29.00 | Ackis | he gets asked that a lot, it's up to the author where to host |
| 15:29.22 | dardack | i only host on wowinterface |
| 15:29.27 | Lopeppeppy | And the whole "one stop shopping entitlement" gets old very quickly. |
| 15:29.38 | dardack | but only cause it's easier for me to have just 1 site to update |
| 15:30.05 | jnwhiteh | well if you limit yourself to 1 shop |
| 15:30.10 | jnwhiteh | you're doing yourself a disservice. |
| 15:30.19 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, on both sides of the fence. :) |
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| 15:30.43 | Drazisil | Ackis: I understand that. I was just wondering if it was something like "too much of a pain" or "curse is run by lichs" or "they stole me code and made me eat worms" |
| 15:30.44 | Lopeppeppy | wicked pounces zenzelezz!!!! |
| 15:31.01 | Drazisil | You know anything that might worry me if I ever actually made an addon |
| 15:31.03 | zenzelezz | amgpeppy! |
| 15:31.12 | jnwhiteh | no its nothing liek that |
| 15:31.25 | Drazisil | cool :) |
| 15:31.33 | Lopeppeppy | Curse makes you eat my cookies. :) |
| 15:31.34 | jnwhiteh | but lightheaded has over 4 million downloads |
| 15:31.38 | jnwhiteh | and I have a lot of users |
| 15:31.47 | jnwhiteh | opening myself up to supporting curse.com is not something i'm prepared to do on that scale. |
| 15:31.52 | jnwhiteh | that's one of many reasons |
| 15:31.56 | jnwhiteh | time is the biggest one. |
| 15:32.01 | jnwhiteh | which filters into all the others. |
| 15:32.01 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't think you'd be back yet, zenzelezz. |
| 15:32.29 | Drazisil | That's a decent ammount of users. :) |
| 15:32.40 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: I'm not actually, plane home leaves on Sunday |
| 15:32.55 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, sneaky. |
| 15:34.38 | Ackis | Drazisil: just don't ask him why it's not on wowmatrix! |
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| 15:35.40 | nevcairiel | Ackis wants to get hurt, i think =P |
| 15:35.53 | Drazisil | Does anyone here know if 241 is the latest version of WhoSells? It's interface number is out of date. |
| 15:35.57 | Ackis | lol |
| 15:37.16 | jnwhiteh | asking me why its not on wowmatrix is fine |
| 15:37.29 | jnwhiteh | doing their bidding my saying "please GPL LightHeaded or allow WowMatrix to host it" |
| 15:37.30 | mikma | so, why? |
| 15:37.34 | jnwhiteh | might make me stab you |
| 15:37.50 | nevcairiel | plx GPL LightHeaded! |
| 15:37.52 | mikma | want a spoon? |
| 15:37.55 | Lopeppeppy | Drazisil, "out of date" does not equal "does not work" |
| 15:37.59 | nevcairiel | I didnt have a good stabing in a while |
| 15:38.14 | Lopeppeppy | Check the addon sites, if you can't find a higher version, that's what you get. |
| 15:38.24 | jnwhiteh | !addon WhoSells |
| 15:38.25 | lua_bot | Found 0 addon results for 'WhoSells': http://is.gd/1SQ4q |
| 15:38.32 | jnwhiteh | curse and wowi don't have it =) |
| 15:38.41 | nevcairiel | is that page still updating? |
| 15:38.51 | Lopeppeppy | Then wherever you got it is likely the most current. |
| 15:38.59 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: yes |
| 15:39.14 | Drazisil | I thought I got it from cure O.o |
| 15:39.25 | Ackis | actually jnwhiteh I think you used something similar to what I wrote on why wowmatrix is teh devil |
| 15:40.02 | Drazisil | yes, It's on Curse...so the bot is wrong :p |
| 15:40.16 | Lopeppeppy | Bots get that way sometimes. |
| 15:40.34 | SuM_WuN | indeed |
| 15:40.36 | jnwhiteh | then http://fin.instinct.org/wowmods is wrong |
| 15:40.43 | jnwhiteh | the bot only reports whats there |
| 15:40.48 | Ackis | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/whosells/ |
| 15:40.55 | Drazisil | pokes lua_bot |
| 15:41.08 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 15:41.11 | jnwhiteh | talk to Fin |
| 15:41.14 | SuM_WuN | pats lua_bot |
| 15:41.16 | jnwhiteh | or the sites can write an api for me to query |
| 15:41.35 | nevcairiel | I havent seen fin in a while |
| 15:42.31 | Drazisil | I like silly little programming projects...what sort of format would you want to results in...maybe I can hack something. |
| 15:43.11 | Dewin | "Silly little programming projects" are 90% of the fun of being a developer :) |
| 15:43.24 | Dewin | I still need to finish my addon, but it "Works for me" |
| 15:43.32 | Drazisil | lol |
| 15:43.55 | Dewin | And it is, to my knowledge, the only XP bar that can track multiple reputations simultaneously (in addition to pet XP) |
| 15:44.04 | mikma | i know i need to finish this addon to so someone can release it but i lost my interest ;) |
| 15:44.10 | mikma | pokes jnwhiteh |
| 15:44.29 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 15:44.31 | mikma | *dodge* |
| 15:44.38 | Dewin | That's kinda what happened to me too |
| 15:45.12 | Dewin | I hate the UI design portion of creating addons is my problem |
| 15:45.15 | Dewin | The underlying framework is fine |
| 15:45.26 | Drazisil | jnwhiteh: What format would you like the curse search results in? |
| 15:45.32 | Dewin | though I was still learning lua when I started writing this so the code is utter garbage |
| 15:45.42 | jnwhiteh | Drazisil: i'm not interested in just curse |
| 15:45.50 | Drazisil | Oh, I hate UI designs...I stink at that. |
| 15:45.51 | jnwhiteh | i'm interested in the site continuing to work |
| 15:46.48 | Drazisil | jnwhiteh: well, is it your site? Maybe I guess the question should be...what needs to change? |
| 15:46.53 | jnwhiteh | its not |
| 15:46.55 | jnwhiteh | and it needs to work |
| 15:47.03 | jnwhiteh | clearly its not pulling info from curse right now |
| 15:47.10 | jnwhiteh | the site does quite a bit |
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| 15:47.12 | jnwhiteh | and its very good at it. |
| 15:47.17 | jnwhiteh | i should just ping fin |
| 15:47.47 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, ping the fin. |
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| 15:48.30 | Drazisil | ah, ok. bot pulls from the site, site is da busted. So a fake api wouldn't help. gotcha |
| 15:48.33 | Kaelten | new euphemism? |
| 15:48.51 | Lopeppeppy | I was thinking how perverted that sounded, Kaelten, but I wasn't about to say anything. :) |
| 15:49.06 | Lunessa | station? |
| 15:49.08 | Kaelten | smiles innocently |
| 15:50.19 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Lunessa. |
| 15:50.28 | Lopeppeppy | Peppy is being bad again. |
| 15:50.38 | Ackis | again or always? |
| 15:50.44 | alestane | Not you! |
| 15:51.06 | alestane | You are pure and innocent. |
| 15:51.06 | alestane | And...stuff. |
| 15:51.07 | Lopeppeppy | Nev-ar! |
| 15:51.09 | Lunessa | ... hawt? |
| 15:51.10 | Lopeppeppy | And stuff. |
| 15:51.36 | Kaelten | ~comfort Lopeppeppy |
| 15:51.37 | purl | There, there, Lopeppeppy. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 16:06.56 | alestane | Why do so many people think that WoW should come with GUI interfaces for modifying the stock UI? |
| 16:07.21 | Lopeppeppy | Because they are entitlement driven internet freaks? |
| 16:07.41 | Lunessa | because Office applications, browsers, and several games have such features. |
| 16:09.04 | alestane | Well, yes. And if WoW did not have the sophisticated UI API that it does, it would probably have a much more robust GUI for the UI fetures. |
| 16:09.22 | alestane | sp* |
| 16:10.03 | Lunessa | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/7/29/ |
| 16:11.15 | alestane | I can't be cross with her for being hesitant. |
| 16:12.02 | Lunessa | I think Blizzard took the right approach - significant features in the baseline UI, and an extensive API for customization. The design for the base UI is practical, simple and completely useable without being overwhelming. But once you've tasted the fruit of customization, you can never enjoy it's bland flavor again. |
| 16:12.34 | Lopeppeppy | The whole sexist nature of their contests is starting to make me want to letter bomb them. |
| 16:13.04 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I think that was part of the joke. |
| 16:13.23 | Lopeppeppy | Sadly, true |
| 16:15.40 | alestane | Bomb who? Twitter? |
| 16:16.26 | Lunessa | And again, Randall nails the way I feel bang on the head - http://xkcd.com/616/ |
| 16:16.50 | alestane | Is that today's? |
| 16:16.57 | alestane | I liked the one today. |
| 16:17.06 | Lunessa | That's today. |
| 16:17.38 | alestane | "I'm pretty sure I stopped growing up some time in my teens and have been faking it ever since." |
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| 16:21.14 | Lunessa | I'm rapidly approaching 40. I play video games 6+ hours daily. I have action figures all over my apartment. I go to comic-book movies. My vacation plans are to go to a game con and maybe Disneyland. I don't think I've grown up at all. |
| 16:23.56 | alestane | Sadly, the biggest sign that I've grown up is that I'm admitting I can't afford to go to a con. |
| 16:24.04 | Lopeppeppy | alestane... if you haven't heard, I'm not going to dredge into who needs me to bomb them back to Stone Age they live in mentally already. |
| 16:24.23 | Lunessa | alestane: I haven't been to one in over a decade. :( |
| 16:25.10 | alestane | http://www.machall.com/view.php?date=2006-09-22 |
| 16:26.28 | Lunessa | Three rings for the Elven Kings ... |
| 16:26.41 | Vonhinten | [12:06] <+alestane> Why do so many people think that WoW should come with GUI interfaces for modifying the stock UI? |
| 16:26.57 | Vonhinten | ^^ because customization in games is still in its infancy |
| 16:27.56 | alestane | WoW is coming up on its fifth anniversary, although that argument doesn't go very far, I know. |
| 16:28.00 | Vonhinten | There needs to be more work to bring customization closer to development |
| 16:28.06 | alestane | http://www.machall.com/view.php?date=2000-11-15 |
| 16:28.37 | ScytheBlade1 | no wonder my USB external is so slow.. /dev/sdd1: 3365/30531584 files (79.1% non-contiguous), 53356786/122096000 blocks |
| 16:28.45 | ScytheBlade1 | freaking 80% fragmentation |
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| 16:30.11 | alestane | Still a classic: http://www.machall.com/view.php?date=2001-01-15 |
| 16:30.37 | Vonhinten | The fact that there is no real debugging tools is a glaring example of how far away they are |
| 16:31.23 | Slafsinator | I don't think there needs to be a massive, comprehensive (and intimidating) configurability for the default UI, but a selection of a couple of styles wouldn't hurt at all ... |
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| 16:32.41 | Lopeppeppy | If you make one style, you make them all. That's exactly why Bliz doesn't make any, they leave it to us. :) |
| 16:33.13 | Vonhinten | Unfortunately, it's pretty clear to me that in any new game I play, after a decade of MMO gaming, I'm unable to cope with things that I can't customize... |
| 16:34.01 | Vonhinten | I like my interfaces and controls the way they have been for all that time, and if your game doesn't let me play like that, your game doesn't get played by me |
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| 16:34.17 | Vonhinten | Aion is in danger of losing me because of that |
| 16:34.30 | alestane | Vonhinten: They weren't trying to make a comprehensive development environment. They're actually deigning to start shipping DevTools and Swatter (more or less) as part of the stock UI in recognition of the fact the UI customization has emerged as a prominent form of WoW participation. |
| 16:34.40 | Slafsinator | Lopeppeppy: true enough. I just think it's disappointing that 5 years into the game and you still need an addon to be able to see your HP/mana without turning the head |
| 16:35.00 | Lopeppeppy | They make the game, we make the pretty. That's always been the deal with WoW. |
| 16:35.35 | alestane | Not everyone wants to play the game with their status sitting constantly in front of them. |
| 16:35.54 | Lopeppeppy | Many people could care less their status *cough*tank*cough* |
| 16:36.13 | Shadowed | The varity in addons even simple ones shows you how Blizzard would never win if they implement everything people think should be in the game by default :p |
| 16:36.17 | alestane | The tank's status is for someone else to worry about. |
| 16:36.59 | Xuerian | If you're raidtanking, that's true. But I wouldn't instance tank without my hp/mp right infront of me. |
| 16:37.07 | alestane | Although I find that I need to pay at least enough attention to know if I need to pop Last Stand and/or Shield Wall. |
| 16:37.58 | Vonhinten | alestane, I know that wasn't their goal, that's not the point. There's no work being done anywhere to build a framework for customization in games though. There's no work being done to bring development as part of customization closer to real development. That's why I say its in its infancy still. You build a lua addon, and you have no debugging facilities |
| 16:37.58 | Vonhinten | other than instrumenting code with logging output, which is the dark ages of programming |
| 16:39.13 | alestane | You want an external sandbox sandbox for debugging execution? I won't say there's no reason to want that, but there's unlikely to be an adequate reason to implement one. |
| 16:39.55 | mikma | wanna see a magic trick? |
| 16:39.56 | alestane | Actually, the error UI in 3.2 is adding one thing we haven't had before, which is locals debugging. |
| 16:39.56 | mikma | http://cdn.thesuperficial.com/2009/07/28/0728_madonna_guns_00.jpg |
| 16:40.05 | Lunessa | I'll go one further alestane - there is no financial incentive, and in face disincentives - for game companies to release sucha thing. |
| 16:40.10 | mikma | poof! you can't sleep next night and you have that madonna image on your mind |
| 16:40.42 | Lunessa | This is why coke + steroids + massive work outs are bad. m'kay? |
| 16:41.03 | Lopeppeppy | .... wow. |
| 16:41.09 | Lopeppeppy | Someone needs a friggin' sammich. |
| 16:41.11 | nicoli_s | thats gotta be photoshopped |
| 16:41.36 | alestane | The fact that games all have different internal mechanics makes it extremely impractical to try and produce a unified development environment for multiple games, and developing them individually for games isn't resource-effective. |
| 16:41.37 | Lopeppeppy | Sadly, it probably is, but not a lot. |
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| 16:42.24 | mikma | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1202475/Madonna-reveals-protruding-muscles-bulging-veins.html |
| 16:45.38 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2009/07/spoiled_brat_gets_98_tv_in_cei.php |
| 16:47.46 | Kraps | which one http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=40546 |
| 16:48.11 | Kraps | oh wait |
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| 16:49.17 | Kraps | omg fail :( http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=40546 |
| 16:49.49 | Kraps | I WASETED A NAXX 10 ON THIS |
| 16:49.55 | Kraps | WASTED |
| 16:50.25 | nevcairiel | a compare with one item in it is fail |
| 16:50.42 | Kraps | omg wtf |
| 16:50.44 | Kraps | brb |
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| 16:51.51 | Kraps | http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=41387;39610 |
| 16:52.14 | Kraps | 51 stam is a big loss |
| 16:52.28 | nevcairiel | stam is overrated |
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| 16:53.06 | Kraps | for a tank? |
| 16:53.18 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 16:53.52 | nevcairiel | as long as it doesnt one-shot or two-shot you all the time, avoidance and mitigation are the way to go |
| 16:53.56 | dardack | no stam is not overated for a dk tank |
| 16:54.00 | Kraps | it'll drop me under 30k health |
| 16:54.16 | Lunessa | You know what's overrated? Opinions. |
| 16:54.38 | nevcairiel | he is obviously a warrior though, dardack =P |
| 16:54.41 | dardack | kraps even with the socket bonus or 12 stam? |
| 16:54.47 | dardack | yea i'm looking now |
| 16:54.49 | dardack | my bad on that |
| 16:54.57 | dardack | of not or |
| 16:55.14 | dardack | i mean if your hit is low i'd go with the t7 |
| 16:55.20 | dardack | if your hit is fine i'd keep the other one |
| 16:55.25 | nevcairiel | I would wear the set hat on my warrior |
| 16:55.28 | dardack | cause right now block value isn't the best |
| 16:55.32 | dardack | maybe in 3.2 it'll be better |
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| 16:56.05 | nevcairiel | hit is always too low if you're still wearing the titansteel, unless you really had bad luck on hat drops =P |
| 16:56.21 | DWSR2 | anyone here use pwnboxer? |
| 16:56.24 | Kraps | my hit is over 8% |
| 16:56.30 | dardack | then i'd wear the t7 |
| 16:56.34 | dardack | what's the rating |
| 16:56.39 | dardack | i forget the conversion |
| 16:56.48 | Kraps | 8 is the cap... |
| 16:56.56 | dardack | oh i only know the ratign cap |
| 16:57.02 | Aelobin | 20.4k xp per trash mob in the nexus solo at lvl 70 :D |
| 16:57.15 | dardack | rested? |
| 16:57.26 | Aelobin | aye |
| 16:57.45 | dardack | i gotta get my kz/mc run intoday |
| 16:58.01 | dardack | and i think zg reset today |
| 16:58.25 | dardack | well if your hit capped i'd be tempted to stick with the titansteel for now |
| 16:58.41 | dardack | but i don't run a warrior |
| 16:58.45 | Kraps | so i wasted a naxx 10 |
| 16:58.48 | dardack | so prolly not the best person to listen to |
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| 16:59.05 | dardack | how is that wasting a naxx 10? you mean the item to turn it in for the helm? |
| 16:59.29 | Kraps | yes |
| 16:59.57 | dardack | well maybe for right now, but i like the 2 piece bonus if you have another piece or need to replace one and want to keep 2 set bonus, and or you replace something and need hit |
| 17:00.14 | dardack | usually if i replace a tier piece with a non teir piece i keep the tier piece around for awhile |
| 17:00.17 | Kraps | i have 4 pcs |
| 17:00.25 | Kraps | soo |
| 17:00.27 | dardack | then yea |
| 17:00.40 | dardack | i love my t8.5 2 piece bonus as a tank |
| 17:00.51 | dardack | wish i could get 4 |
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| 17:06.50 | Lunessa | I'm starting to pick up Ulduar -10/25 pieces and I'm going to miss my T7/7/5 bonuses. |
| 17:07.25 | Lunessa | and apparently, I'm missing the '.' key too. |
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| 17:12.41 | alestane | "Only once you can successfully wrestle a herd of monkeys will you truly be ready to manage your forum." |
| 17:15.04 | AnduinLothar | forums aren't managed, they're mitigated. |
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| 17:17.57 | Lunessa | Forums - Never will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. |
| 17:17.57 | Lopeppeppy | Barely. |
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| 17:26.33 | DWSR2 | AnduinLothar: Don't you mean forums aren't blocked, they're avoided? |
| 17:29.08 | Lopeppeppy | Parried. |
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| 17:34.22 | Kawe | and I'm back |
| 17:34.27 | Kawe | gah, wrong channel |
| 17:34.30 | Kawe | hides. |
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| 17:34.57 | Lopeppeppy | I see you! |
| 17:35.02 | Kawe | nuuu |
| 17:35.17 | Lopeppeppy | Aye. With my eye. |
| 17:36.06 | TC-Away | slaps Lopeppeppy in the face and yells "I'm Rick James, bitch!" |
| 17:36.35 | Lopeppeppy | What-ev-er. Give me up. |
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| 18:01.35 | alestane | http://www.machall.com/view.php?date=2002-10-14 I only wsh. |
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| 18:18.16 | Lunessa | alestane: Wait, you're a professor, you should have such a device. |
| 18:18.48 | alestane | "Professor" is too grand a word for ITT Tech. I'm an "instructor." |
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| 18:19.33 | Lunessa | Bah. |
| 18:19.51 | Adys | yeah |
| 18:20.27 | Lunessa | At least you haven't had to spend the last 3 work days sending out "alerts" for "Internet access is still slow" or "Server Y is still down." |
| 18:20.49 | Lunessa | Why me? Because I'm the "tech writer" in the department. |
| 18:20.52 | alestane | At least you spent the last 3 weeks working. I get in 5-10 hours a week right now. |
| 18:21.22 | Lunessa | ... I'll give you that. |
| 18:22.20 | foxlit | whee. |
| 18:22.36 | foxlit | phpBB tries to garbage collect its sessions. |
| 18:22.45 | foxlit | phpbb_sessions has 110k rows. |
| 18:23.09 | foxlit | End result is that it chokes on the query that's supposed to figure out which rows to delete. |
| 18:23.17 | foxlit | so it never deletes anything. |
| 18:24.13 | durcyn | time to 'delete from phpb_sessions;' and damn the users |
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| 18:24.15 | alestane | Sounds like a rather spectacularly failed attempt at incremental collection. |
| 18:26.06 | NeoTron | what kind of query would be slow when dealing with a tiny 110k row table? |
| 18:26.10 | NeoTron | even in mysql that's not very much |
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| 18:27.36 | foxlit | SELECT DISTINCT c.session_id FROM ' . CONFIRM_TABLE c LEFT JOIN SESSIONS_TABLE s ON (c.session_id = s.session_id) WHERE s.session_id IS NULL |
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| 18:34.01 | Vonhinten | Why would that be slow? |
| 18:34.20 | Vonhinten | no index on the session_id's? |
| 18:35.03 | Vonhinten | (i'd think it'd be the pkey, getting an index automatically |
| 18:35.42 | foxlit | I'm sure the indices are sensible. |
| 18:35.57 | Vonhinten | IS NULL? why would a session_id ever be null |
| 18:36.07 | foxlit | It's a LEFT JOIN. |
| 18:36.24 | foxlit | Essentially, find me those session IDs in table A that are not in table B. |
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| 18:36.39 | Lunessa | PWNT - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18570236694 |
| 18:37.22 | Vonhinten | is that even valid? you're already joining on the session_id |
| 18:37.45 | nevcairiel | sure seems weird |
| 18:37.51 | nevcairiel | but i have no idea how their tabels work |
| 18:37.53 | nevcairiel | i hate phpBB |
| 18:37.54 | foxlit | "The findings of that investigation were that you were to repay the items due to your previous guild â unfortunately for you, the sum of the amount taken was no longer in your possession, so we were left to find another way for reclamation. In the e-mail that was sent to you on 6-26 you should see that 2,500 Gold, Cold Weather Flying and Riding 300 (Epic Flying) were stripped from your character. This was found to be the exact |
| 18:38.10 | foxlit | Vonhinten: left outer joins would work that way. |
| 18:38.36 | foxlit | ouch. |
| 18:38.57 | nevcairiel | you were cut off at "found to be the exact", foxlit |
| 18:39.00 | Lunessa | foxlit: That's one of the few times I've ever seen a CSR explain what actions were taken in a dispute. And the most amusing. |
| 18:39.13 | foxlit | " sum equal to that which was taken from your previous guild. "" |
| 18:39.22 | nevcairiel | he stole gold from a guild? |
| 18:39.28 | nevcairiel | and it was returned? |
| 18:39.33 | foxlit | So the CSR rep says. |
| 18:39.47 | nevcairiel | kinda funny how they got the gold back |
| 18:39.51 | mikma | lunessa: omg, the system works! |
| 18:40.08 | Vonhinten | lol @ stripping email and purchased skills |
| 18:40.15 | Vonhinten | Where's the depreciation! |
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| 18:45.46 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/07/28/funny-pictures-affection/ |
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| 19:00.08 | Kraps__ | fricken thunderstorm messing with my connection |
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| 19:08.01 | dardack | my pally tank friend mentioned a mod to me awhile ago about some mod that puts in the tooltip your like actual damage or something from abilities along with your gear or something, unfortunately i forget and he's been away for a bit, anyone know wth i'm talking about? |
| 19:08.27 | dardack | yea Kraps at least your not at a hotel on business and get disconnected in the middle of boss fights in 25 ulduar |
| 19:08.29 | dardack | sigh |
| 19:09.26 | Kraps_ | heh |
| 19:09.52 | Kraps_ | i did wipe on anub'arak though |
| 19:10.17 | Kraps_ | but it only took 3 attempts |
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| 19:10.45 | Slafsinator | dardack: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13225-MrDamage.html maybe |
| 19:10.57 | dardack | heh |
| 19:10.59 | Kraps_ | this weather is why i love the idea of playing a shaman |
| 19:11.05 | dardack | oh yea? |
| 19:11.37 | dardack | at least i have the hybrid blood spec with perma ghoul so it did damage while iwas DC'd, his % of my damage was considerably higher than most nights but my dps suffered by like 800 |
| 19:11.49 | Kraps_ | fury of nature and all that |
| 19:12.13 | dardack | Slafsinator: yea something like that is there one that someone is presently working on? |
| 19:12.15 | Lunessa | I rarely bother to try to play when I'm traveling. I sit in front of my damned computer enough as it is. |
| 19:12.52 | Slafsinator | no idea dardack, I just conjured that out of thin memory :) |
| 19:13.03 | dardack | Slafsinator: thanks |
| 19:13.25 | dardack | Lunessa: yea i do at work but i still need my 5 seals from the argent dailies, and dont' like to miss my 2 raids tues/wednesday |
| 19:13.41 | dardack | the only time i don't is if a co-worker books the hotel and they choose one without free internet |
| 19:13.50 | dardack | then i beat them and do the bookings next time |
| 19:13.51 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeples going over their hour limit. Rawr. |
| 19:14.03 | dardack | hour limit? |
| 19:14.08 | Lunessa | dardack: It probably doesn't help that I'm too cheap to buy a laptop that will play WOW decently. |
| 19:14.19 | dardack | oh that's all i play on even at home |
| 19:14.49 | dardack | since ihave kids and or play in the living room so i can watch tv with wife and grind crap, or in bedroom or whereever also since i knew i had to travel with my job |
| 19:15.13 | Lunessa | I have three desktop machines at home, and two at work. I live 3 minutes from the office and I'm not a "road warrior" so... I don't need a laptop. |
| 19:16.16 | Kraps_ | i was on the porch for 5 minutes staring at the rain |
| 19:19.20 | dardack | so i guess drdamage is the original mrdamage but still being developed so guess i'll go with dr |
| 19:21.03 | Slafsinator | o, I only found the abandoned version |
| 19:23.03 | dardack | curse has drdamage updated 4 days ago, also found on wowace updated for 3.2 already |
| 19:23.12 | dardack | updated 4 hrs ago |
| 19:23.25 | dardack | so i'll try it when i get back to hotel |
| 19:24.22 | Slafsinator | :) |
| 19:24.35 | dardack | Lunessa: i feel ya, but my 2 desktop machines at home is 1 a mythv/webserver and 2 a skype/video storage server (skype fro home phone) oh i also have an appletv hacked with mytv for a frontend to the tv, then my wife has a laptop and so do i, was easier to save on space upstairs |
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| 19:25.40 | Lunessa | dardack: Makes sense. I just watch TV on my computer or else the monitor which is also an HD TV. |
| 19:26.15 | Lunessa | Oh, and living alone I don't have to worry about anyone else's comfort or desires for the computer or TV. |
| 19:26.24 | dardack | yea 2 kids that love phenias and ferb (btw toon's name doofensmirtz) kinda need a tv in the family room, plus watching movies on a 50" is nice |
| 19:26.38 | dardack | Lunessa: totally true, it's been a long time for me since that was the case |
| 19:26.53 | dardack | and back then i didn't have a tv either |
| 19:27.04 | Lopeppeppy | I got rid of my TV, I don't miss it yet. |
| 19:27.26 | Lunessa | My place is too small for a 50" - but back in the day, I had a 54" rear-projetion set and it was awesome for movies. |
| 19:27.38 | dardack | i wish i could just purchase like 5 channels from my cabel CO and not have to buy all channels |
| 19:28.06 | dardack | Lopeppeppy: not sure if i would ever get rid of tv, but been thinking about tossing cabel |
| 19:28.15 | Lunessa | Every time someone proposes such packaging all kinds of hell breaks loose. |
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| 19:29.05 | Lopeppeppy | dardack, I did that for 3 months or so, before I ditched the tv itself. |
| 19:29.10 | Lunessa | So I end up paying for ESPN even though I never watch it. |
| 19:29.13 | dardack | cabel companies want to preserve their money making model, one of reason's they want to be able to thorttle certain stuff, ie not being able to watch legeitimate tv/movies online (they've oversold their infastructure) |
| 19:29.28 | dardack | see in my 5 would be espn |
| 19:29.32 | Lopeppeppy | I watched ESPN. <.< |
| 19:29.37 | dardack | but not 2/news/classic/etc of spn |
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| 19:29.59 | Lunessa | I don't dig sports enough for ESPN. And I'm not paying $300/year for NHL Ticket. |
| 19:30.10 | dardack | true dat |
| 19:30.18 | dardack | that's like where i live |
| 19:30.22 | Lopeppeppy | I wouldn't either... but I do love my football stats... |
| 19:30.31 | dardack | i live near albany NY, so we have huge yankee/mets/redsox fan base |
| 19:30.39 | dardack | but we only have the tv of yanks/mets |
| 19:30.50 | dardack | and being a sox fan they want to charge me some ridiculous figure |
| 19:30.58 | Lunessa | Mostly, I just watch a couple of shows or i surf channels when I'm out of books, can't sleep, and can't stand another second of WoW. |
| 19:31.00 | dardack | i do love my football |
| 19:31.13 | dardack | burn notice |
| 19:31.28 | Lunessa | I like Hockey - but not enough to subscribe any more. |
| 19:31.31 | dardack | or reruns of NCIS seem to be my choice lately |
| 19:31.41 | Saeris | Anyone familiar with using the animation subsystem for time-delayed callbacks? I'm wondering how efficient that is, compared to other solutions. |
| 19:31.57 | Lunessa | Haha... USANetwork - where shows either flourish or go to die. |
| 19:32.01 | dardack | so anyone here been hit with this paymentone phone payment charge backs? |
| 19:32.16 | dardack | yea but USA has burn notice, and i dig that show so much, plus pysch |
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| 19:37.18 | Lunessa | Burn Notice, In Plain Sight, and Royal Pains is kind of growing on me. |
| 19:37.24 | dardack | anyone have a perma ghoul and have the issue in an instance when you sometimes summon it it doesn't appear, but the summon buttons stays greyed out like you have a summoned thing an dyou have to relog to fix it? |
| 19:37.36 | dardack | i live BN/RP but IPS still growing on me |
| 19:37.38 | Lunessa | And God help me, I like Law & Order: Criminal Intent |
| 19:37.48 | dardack | can't wait for Pysch andyea me and my wife love CI |
| 19:37.55 | dardack | we've watch since begining on that one |
| 19:38.20 | alestane | I've reasonably enjoyed Royal Pains when I've seen it (I only see TV at our friends' houses these days). Did Criminal Intent just air an episode with Carol Burnett? |
| 19:38.27 | Kaso | off topic but does anyone know how to use xargs to do multiple programs, like ls | xargs -I {} echo "{}" | md5sum - so that i'd get a list of md5sum hashes of all the files in current directory, rather than how that executes, a single md5sum of combined named of all the files |
| 19:38.38 | Kaso | so that the (echo "{}" | md5sum -) bit is the bit excuted every xargs |
| 19:38.47 | Lunessa | I've always liked Vincent D'Nofrio (spelling?) and Jeff Goldblum |
| 19:39.16 | Arrowmaster | Vincent D'Onofrio |
| 19:40.50 | Arrowmaster | heh i didnt even realize D'Onofrio was Edgar in MiB |
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| 19:41.40 | Lunessa | Heh... he's been in lots of stuff - and his roles have been quite varied. |
| 19:42.01 | Lopeppeppy | I'm liking Warehouse 13, and Merlin is a guilty pleasure. |
| 19:42.11 | Vonhinten | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/02/08/funny-pictures-and-i-can-not-lie/ |
| 19:42.35 | Lopeppeppy | I also liked Krod Mandoon, I'm just odd. |
| 19:43.48 | Lunessa | I scanned the first three episodes of Warehouse 13 - I give it one season, tops. |
| 19:44.07 | dardack | warehouse 13 growing on me lots, merlin i can't get into |
| 19:44.37 | Lunessa | But then, I like "Chuck" and "Heroes" |
| 19:44.39 | dardack | and alestane don[t know me and my wife watch all our tv recorded and since i've been away i haven't watched the last 2 episodes |
| 19:44.47 | dardack | i really liked chuck |
| 19:44.54 | dardack | did that ever get a yay or nay? |
| 19:45.14 | Lopeppeppy | I liked Chuck, could not get into Heroes. |
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| 19:47.26 | Dashkal | Is there any setting or console command I can invoke to stop wow from frame limiting when in the background? I wanna browse the web when auctioneer is crunching |
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| 19:47.41 | Lunessa | Chuck will apparently be making a return on another network "soon" |
| 19:48.18 | Lunessa | Dashkal: Did you set a frame limt for background? |
| 19:48.26 | Vonhinten | dashkal, windowed mode? |
| 19:48.32 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.32 | Dashkal | I didn't set one, I just remember reading that it did. |
| 19:48.39 | Dashkal | That and it takes even longer if I dare to alt-tab |
| 19:48.42 | Torhal | Interesting. I'm finishing the last 6 episodes of Chuck now. |
| 19:48.43 | Dashkal | windowed+maximized |
| 19:48.58 | Dashkal | If I'mn just crazy, that works too |
| 19:49.06 | Lunessa | You're just crazy |
| 19:49.12 | Vonhinten | hmm, didn't think it slowed in windowed mode, seems to draw just as fast to me |
| 19:49.14 | dardack | wait chuck is coming back? |
| 19:49.27 | Torhal | dardack: As far as I know |
| 19:49.30 | dardack | awesome |
| 19:49.38 | Torhal | I just never got around to watching the whole season 2. |
| 19:49.44 | SuM_WuN | Vonhinten: same here |
| 19:49.50 | dardack | and i play on linux so i just head to another desktop so it's never miniminzed and my cpu seems to stay the same |
| 19:49.59 | Lunessa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_%28TV_series%29 |
| 19:50.12 | Lunessa | After a two-month "Save Chuck" campaign mounted by fans, Chuck was renewed for a third season with a thirteen-episode order.[8] A major sponsorship deal between NBC and the Subway restaurant chain was also announced to help cover costs of the third season, which is tentatively scheduled to begin airing in March 2010 in its regular timeslot.[9][10] |
| 19:50.42 | dardack | hmmm product placement then |
| 19:50.44 | Vonhinten | I think we should start a "shoot network execs in the stupid head" campaign... |
| 19:50.48 | Vonhinten | I'm still fucking pissed about Firefly |
| 19:50.59 | Fisker | it already had it up the butt dardack |
| 19:51.02 | Arrowmaster | they always cancel the best shows |
| 19:51.10 | Fisker | indeed Arrowmaster |
| 19:51.22 | Fisker | though i think Chuck can't run for much more storywise |
| 19:51.28 | Arrowmaster | cbs killed jericho when it was their best show |
| 19:51.39 | dardack | Vonhinten: do not get me started on firefly |
| 19:51.42 | Arrowmaster | i still want nbc to bring back jounreyman |
| 19:51.42 | Torhal | Dashkal: SET maxFPSBk "InsertNumberHere" <-- I believe 0 is unlimited |
| 19:51.48 | dardack | firefly is the shwo i hooked my then GF now Wife on scifi |
| 19:51.59 | nicoli_s | you mean syfy? |
| 19:52.04 | dardack | which led to stargates and most recently she wanted to see the new star trek more then i did |
| 19:52.06 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: I WTF'd when they ended Journeyman. |
| 19:52.06 | Lopeppeppy | *shudder* |
| 19:52.09 | Fisker | i hate you nicoli_s |
| 19:52.13 | Dashkal | aha, danke |
| 19:52.16 | Torhal | nicoli_s: BLASPHEMER |
| 19:52.17 | Saeris | So very much /facepalm for that name change. |
| 19:52.17 | nicoli_s | i hate it as much as you fisker |
| 19:52.19 | dardack | so i'm so peeved how fox handed firefly |
| 19:52.25 | dardack | why did they change their name? |
| 19:52.30 | dardack | i tried to find an exact reason |
| 19:52.34 | dardack | but it was all very vague |
| 19:52.40 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: That show could have been awesome. |
| 19:52.47 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: yeah they ended the season because of the writers strike but then never bothered to bring it back |
| 19:52.59 | Lopeppeppy | Because sci fi is a non-copyrightable genre. Scy Fy is something they can copyright, protect, brand and own. |
| 19:53.16 | dardack | oh |
| 19:53.18 | dardack | that blows |
| 19:53.22 | Torhal | SyFy <-- Teh intarwebz haev struck again! |
| 19:53.23 | Lopeppeppy | That's marketing. |
| 19:53.25 | NeoTron | also SciFi is only something geeks and dorks watch |
| 19:53.32 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy fuck that |
| 19:53.39 | Fisker | Besides why can't they? |
| 19:53.42 | NeoTron | SyFy on the other hand has a much larger potential market! |
| 19:53.43 | Lopeppeppy | You do it, I can't take those papercuts, Fisker. |
| 19:53.47 | Fisker | Blizzard Entertainment would suffer the same problem |
| 19:53.49 | dardack | i'm telling you firefly changed my wife tv watching habbits |
| 19:53.50 | Fisker | and they're not |
| 19:53.53 | Fisker | so why is Sci Fi? |
| 19:53.58 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: It won't come back, either, unless the main guy quits Grey's ANatomy. |
| 19:53.59 | Lopeppeppy | Because they're stupid. |
| 19:54.11 | Fisker | well duh |
| 19:54.14 | Fisker | they cancelled SG-1 |
| 19:54.18 | dardack | sigh |
| 19:54.31 | dardack | i heard a new stargate is coming |
| 19:54.32 | NeoTron | SG-1 had had 10 seasons though |
| 19:54.34 | Lunessa | Actually, I never liked the SG-1 series. Or any of it's spin-offs. |
| 19:54.38 | Fisker | durr dardack |
| 19:54.40 | Fisker | SG:U |
| 19:54.43 | NeoTron | although I would have preferred it not to be cancelled that's a pretty good run |
| 19:54.57 | Fisker | Almost too much of a run |
| 19:54.58 | NeoTron | not like Firefly >:-/ |
| 19:54.59 | dardack | sg-1 was awesome |
| 19:55.11 | dardack | when is G U coming? |
| 19:55.12 | dardack | SG U |
| 19:55.15 | Fisker | It should either have had 2 seasons less or 2 seasons more |
| 19:55.17 | Fisker | october |
| 19:55.17 | NeoTron | this fall |
| 19:55.30 | nicoli_s | dardack, some episodes leaked already i think |
| 19:55.34 | Fisker | WAT?! |
| 19:55.39 | NeoTron | I think the followup movies wrapped the end up nicely though |
| 19:55.49 | dardack | the 2 movies were nice |
| 19:55.54 | Fisker | i don't believe you nicoli_s |
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| 19:56.05 | dardack | plus i love they had brought on board the 2 people from one of my other favorite sci fi shows |
| 19:56.12 | NeoTron | I do think SG:A could have continued though |
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| 19:56.34 | dardack | well i'll look for my listing in the fall for SG U |
| 19:56.37 | Lunessa | I would like an SF series that didn't succumb to the "need new gimmick every episode" problem most TV writers fall into. |
| 19:56.39 | Fisker | SG:A was kinda meh |
| 19:56.44 | Fisker | but started getting good near the end |
| 19:56.58 | NightHawkTheSan1 | NeoTron: it could have, did you really want s9/10 of sg1 all over again? :P |
| 19:57.02 | NeoTron | SG1 losing McGuyver definitely was a big loss |
| 19:57.06 | Dashkal | either that console command worked or I was just crazy. Don't care which. Thanks :) |
| 19:57.08 | Lunessa | The new Battlestar Galactica did a good job of avoiding it. |
| 19:57.11 | Fisker | they sucked Neone |
| 19:57.13 | Fisker | NeoTron |
| 19:57.17 | Torhal | Dashkal: It worked :) |
| 19:57.23 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSan1: I liked all seasons of all shows for the most part. not every episode ofc |
| 19:57.26 | Fisker | In their Children of the gods recut they removed the macgyver reference? |
| 19:57.32 | Dashkal | Usually I just walked away when I did an AH scan |
| 19:57.40 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: no way! |
| 19:57.45 | Fisker | yes way Arrowmaster |
| 19:58.01 | Fisker | "It took us 20 years and 3 supercomputers to macgyver a dialing program" |
| 19:58.07 | NeoTron | Richard Dean Anderson added a lot of humor |
| 19:58.11 | Fisker | Is now: "It took us 20 years and 3 supercomputers to juryrig a dialing program" |
| 19:58.24 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Fisker: o_0 where? |
| 19:58.34 | Fisker | in the recut of their first episode NightHawkTheSan1 |
| 19:58.39 | NightHawkTheSan1 | lame. |
| 19:58.41 | Fisker | they remastered the pilot |
| 19:58.41 | alestane | http://www.machall.com/view.php?date=2004-07-07 |
| 19:58.41 | Arrowmaster | i saw the store had that for $20 and i was wondering why they were releasing that when its part of season 1 |
| 19:58.47 | Fisker | removed the nudity etc. |
| 19:58.50 | NightHawkTheSan1 | the box set dvds have it as 'macguyver' |
| 19:59.15 | NeoTron | man been so long but.. there was nudity in the pilot? heh |
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| 19:59.22 | dardack | yea i don't remember |
| 19:59.38 | Fisker | yeah |
| 19:59.50 | NightHawkTheSan1 | yeah |
| 19:59.52 | Fisker | some tits and bush when they had the goa'uld scene |
| 19:59.55 | Arrowmaster | there was |
| 20:00.09 | dardack | that was able to be shown on scifi? |
| 20:00.13 | Fisker | naw |
| 20:00.16 | NightHawkTheSan1 | not for long, but it was full frontal, when daniel's wife was being.. uh 'examined' by the goa'uld |
| 20:00.27 | Fisker | It was on another network in the beginning |
| 20:00.30 | Arrowmaster | no scifi didnt own SG-1 until a few seasons in |
| 20:00.35 | dardack | oh right |
| 20:00.40 | dardack | like showtime or something |
| 20:00.42 | NightHawkTheSan1 | it was on.. showtime? or something? |
| 20:00.43 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 20:00.44 | dardack | coming back to me |
| 20:00.46 | Arrowmaster | showtime |
| 20:00.56 | NeoTron | I watched the first X seasons from downloaded episodes |
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| 20:01.15 | nicoli_s | wait, sg1 was originally on showtime? |
| 20:01.20 | NeoTron | since I didn't actually watch it originally |
| 20:01.21 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 20:01.24 | nicoli_s | and had full frontal nudity in it? wtf |
| 20:01.25 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 20:01.27 | dardack | yep |
| 20:01.29 | NeoTron | SciFi saved it from cancellation |
| 20:01.31 | Arrowmaster | and fox even showed it on sundays |
| 20:01.37 | NightHawkTheSan1 | nicoli_s: only the first ep :P |
| 20:01.44 | nicoli_s | i was about to say i remember it on fox before scifi |
| 20:01.47 | dardack | i remember now i actually saw the pilot on dvd my mom rented it for some odd reason, prolly thinking it was a sequel to the movie |
| 20:02.07 | Arrowmaster | yeah i rented the pilot too |
| 20:02.08 | dardack | but no nudity on the dvd that i remember |
| 20:02.28 | NightHawkTheSan1 | probably edited out for the initial dvd release or something silly |
| 20:02.29 | dardack | i just remember having to watch reruns or something before scfi saved it |
| 20:04.20 | Torhal | ... |
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| 20:27.48 | alestane | http://www.machall.com/view.php?date=2004-09-17 |
| 20:28.20 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR! |
| 20:28.22 | Lopeppeppy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:38.55 | Kraps_ | rune strike is great, if only because it fills in holes in the rotation |
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| 20:40.31 | dardack | back to hotel |
| 20:40.33 | dardack | cya all later |
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| 20:44.10 | NightHawkTheSan1 | alestane: mac hall is win |
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| 20:52.34 | kd3 | whee, a new ptr build |
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| 20:58.58 | Hjalte | kd3: like now? |
| 20:59.56 | Hjalte | durcyn: Crybaby did tricks of the trade announcements twice just now, when two rogues did it on each other. (4x total) |
| 21:01.09 | durcyn | Hjalte: buh what? i've not seen that happen, and i actually merged my changes |
| 21:01.22 | Hjalte | durcyn: I took a screenshot |
| 21:01.36 | durcyn | Hjalte: don't suppose you took a combatlog too, that's the more interesting part |
| 21:01.48 | Hjalte | durcyn: Yeah, I might. Let me check |
| 21:02.00 | Fisker | slaps Hjalte around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:02.16 | ScytheBlade1 | spins the wheel |
| 21:02.18 | ScytheBlade1 | ~rlart |
| 21:02.18 | purl | tries to shut Adys up |
| 21:02.18 | Hjalte | Fisker: What can I say... Fits your name? |
| 21:02.38 | Adys | ~whalejerk ScytheBlade1 |
| 21:02.49 | ScytheBlade1 | erm. jerk? |
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| 21:02.53 | Adys | yes |
| 21:03.39 | durcyn | Hjalte: look for SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS on 57934 |
| 21:03.40 | Cide | Adys |
| 21:03.43 | Adys | sup |
| 21:03.47 | Cide | you really need to get your python bot in here 24/7 |
| 21:03.57 | Cide | so I can test code while at work |
| 21:04.01 | Adys | its been memleaking |
| 21:04.03 | Adys | I can do that but |
| 21:04.15 | Adys | you'd have to find me what the hell is wrong with it |
| 21:04.16 | Hjalte | durcyn: Been saving my combatlog while raiding Ulduar-25 for a while, but not really using it, so I've got quite a bit to filter out :) |
| 21:04.26 | Cide | memleaking? |
| 21:04.32 | Cide | that's very hard with python |
| 21:04.35 | Adys | every 3-4 commands, it makes xchat consume 4gb of memory |
| 21:04.36 | Adys | yeah |
| 21:04.39 | Adys | but its an xchat plugin |
| 21:04.41 | ScytheBlade1 | o_o |
| 21:04.47 | Adys | also I only have 2gb. |
| 21:05.03 | Cide | simple |
| 21:05.15 | Cide | get 4 commands that produce the bug |
| 21:05.23 | Adys | yeah not right now |
| 21:05.23 | Cide | and then execute them locally without involving the xchat handlers |
| 21:05.27 | Adys | Im doing very important stuff |
| 21:05.30 | Adys | theres a new ptr build |
| 21:05.32 | Adys | so |
| 21:05.32 | Cide | Very Important Stuff |
| 21:05.36 | Adys | I have to finish watching Monk. |
| 21:07.59 | durcyn | Hjalte: i guess i'll disable my spam suppression tonight and see if i can replicate it, but there's traiditionally only one cast event |
| 21:09.03 | Lunessa | I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. |
| 21:13.53 | Lunessa | http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/07/urban-mole/ |
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| 21:15.28 | Hjalte | durcyn: I just realised something by looking at the screenshot. Let's forget I said anything. (they were 1 minute apart). |
| 21:20.13 | Lunessa | And again - PWNT - http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/07/kaminsky-hacked/ |
| 21:20.54 | Dagmar | Yeah, it happens |
| 21:21.12 | Dagmar | The script kiddies all think it's about never being compromised. |
| 21:21.25 | Dagmar | The guys who actually get paid know it's about how you recover from it when it does eventually happen |
| 21:21.47 | Lunessa | Yeah, I'm amused that some of them used grossly insecure passwords. |
| 21:22.09 | Dagmar | Well, for a blog host, who cares |
| 21:22.17 | Dagmar | It's throwaway data anyway |
| 21:22.23 | Lunessa | Usually, no one. Public dayta is public. |
| 21:22.33 | Dagmar | So long as you don't go round using a crap password everywhere else it's not _that_ big of a deal--just a minor annoyance |
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| 21:23.46 | Dagmar | You can tell from his passwords that he knew eventually it'd be compromised, and not by his passwords. :) |
| 21:25.04 | Lunessa | Like I said, the story is mostly amusing. In security it's not about IF you have a breach, it's about WHEN you have one. They're always embarrassing, but a good security plan doesn't leave you with egg on your face forever. |
| 21:25.24 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 21:25.49 | Dagmar | I used to be on a box someone had at GATech and we were _all_ hacking each other all the time |
| 21:26.50 | foxlit | "I am proud today to introduce to those who really, truly deserve it, our most incredible iPhone yet," announced Apple CEO Steve Jobs, extending his seemingly empty left palm toward the eagerly awaiting crowd. "Not only is this our lightest and slimmest model ever, but as any truly savvy Apple customer can clearly see, it's also the most handsome product we've ever designed." |
| 21:27.05 | Lunessa | GATech huh? A buddy of mine is an Alumni. |
| 21:27.17 | NeoTron | iPhone 3Gi! |
| 21:27.50 | Dagmar | *Lots* of good hackers came out of GATach |
| 21:27.54 | Dagmar | er Tech |
| 21:28.18 | Cide | NeoTron: great, we can call it -Phone3G now |
| 21:29.38 | Fisker | fail Lunessa |
| 21:29.44 | Fisker | Mitnick is just a social engineer |
| 21:29.47 | Fisker | >:3 |
| 21:30.24 | Lunessa | Mitnick did more than social engineering. But it's probably before your time. :P |
| 21:30.44 | kd3 | looks for another beer |
| 21:31.29 | foxlit | WHERE IS THE BEER, kd3? |
| 21:31.33 | Fisker | Whatever he did doesn't really apply anymore Lunessa |
| 21:31.38 | foxlit | THE GOD ANCHORS MUST BE RESTORED! |
| 21:31.46 | kd3 | my fridge, downstairs |
| 21:32.12 | Lunessa | Fisker: Likely true. All my good code/work is now a decade+ old an no one gives two shits about it. |
| 21:37.24 | jnwhiteh | kernel panic. |
| 21:37.26 | jnwhiteh | fantabulous |
| 21:37.26 | Cide | anyone good at javascript? |
| 21:42.18 | NightHawkTheSan1 | define 'good'? what do you need? :P |
| 21:42.49 | NightHawkTheSan1 | also, for the love of god, make the heat stop. >< |
| 21:43.41 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/151589211 |
| 21:46.17 | Cide | I solved it |
| 21:46.22 | Cide | JavaScript's scopes are function-level, not block-level, and creating a closure just means that the enclosing scope gets added to the lexical environment of the enclosed function. |
| 21:46.24 | Cide | ^ annoying |
| 21:51.51 | ScytheBlade1 | http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1258/yodawgthecarwasthisbig.jpg |
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| 21:54.55 | Lunessa | You dawg. |
| 21:55.41 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ScytheBlade1: i want to kill you for that |
| 21:55.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I want to kill myself for that |
| 21:55.58 | ScytheBlade1 | so don't sweat it |
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| 21:56.27 | foxlit | so what could data possibly be telling picard? |
| 21:57.13 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ScytheBlade1: ... at this point its hard NOT to sweat it. sweating is one of the few things i have the energy left to do |
| 21:57.34 | ScytheBlade1 | How hot is it over there? |
| 21:57.41 | NightHawkTheSan1 | 100+ |
| 21:57.47 | NightHawkTheSan1 | in downtown seattle |
| 21:57.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, in Seattle I can see that being hot |
| 21:58.25 | NightHawkTheSan1 | this is crazy hot though. in the four years ive been here its never been this hot |
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| 22:03.54 | Thunder_Child | i cant believe someone made a comic strip duplicating the weapon of choice music video |
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| 22:13.21 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSan1: It's 95 here - and we're calling it a balm and cool day. |
| 22:13.42 | Lunessa | balm/balmy whatever |
| 22:13.55 | Kraps_ | a semi-guild naxx 10 failed undying at razuvious |
| 22:14.52 | Kraps_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.53 | Kraps_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.55 | Kraps_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.56 | Kraps_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.12 | Vonhinten | wtf |
| 22:15.23 | Kraps_ | can someone rate these from least dumb to most dumb? |
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| 22:16.12 | NeoTron | Kraps_: that's why you do razuvious first so you can wipe and then reset the instance :P |
| 22:16.13 | ZorbaBeta | they'd be kind of neat ideas for a game that wasn't WoW. |
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| 22:16.36 | Vonhinten | You just described Energy, with a couple gimmicks |
| 22:16.37 | Kraps_ | NeoTron: good point |
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| 22:17.01 | foxlit | bring on the mana-using warriors, I say. |
| 22:17.23 | Kraps_ | ^ |
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| 22:18.04 | Vonhinten | Given the cost of abilities, the difference in attack speed and crit would be minor |
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| 22:18.25 | foxlit | ah, wowinsider. |
| 22:18.31 | foxlit | Fail as usual(tm). |
| 22:19.19 | Kraps_ | :O how did you know? |
| 22:19.48 | foxlit | scrolled past it |
| 22:19.55 | Kraps_ | heh |
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| 22:42.47 | Kraps___ | this is krap |
| 22:43.19 | mikma | hi krap |
| 22:43.46 | Kraps___ | why must you wound me so |
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| 22:44.32 | Kraps___ | can we get rid of all the other krap? |
| 22:44.45 | Kraps___ | (see wut i did thar) |
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| 22:48.47 | Kraps____ | how many _____________________________ can it go to? |
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| 22:51.54 | foxlit | sixteen chars. |
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| 22:54.30 | Arrowmaster | NICKLEN=16 |
| 22:54.45 | Arrowmaster | from the 005 numeric the server sends on connect |
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| 23:02.01 | Kraps_ | he single-handedly decimated the elf population |
| 23:03.13 | Kraps_ | in this book http://www.amazon.com/Flights-Extreme-Visions-Fantasy-Vol/dp/0451460995/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1248908554&sr=8-4 |
| 23:03.57 | jnwhiteh | just so I'm not freaking paranoid |
| 23:04.01 | jnwhiteh | if i copy my data folder |
| 23:04.04 | jnwhiteh | and the executable |
| 23:04.13 | jnwhiteh | that should be close to a "clean" wow install, no? |
| 23:04.24 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: Close enough. |
| 23:04.31 | mikma | if it runs, why not |
| 23:04.32 | jnwhiteh | because i'm having issues |
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| 23:04.36 | jnwhiteh | and i'm reinstalling my machine |
| 23:04.40 | jnwhiteh | but three dvds |
| 23:04.42 | jnwhiteh | and then a patch |
| 23:04.46 | jnwhiteh | are not something i'm looking forward to |
| 23:05.03 | alestane | the WotLK DVD can install the game from scratch. |
| 23:05.07 | Fisker | o |
| 23:05.07 | Fisker | l |
| 23:05.08 | Fisker | d |
| 23:05.12 | mikma | spam |
| 23:05.15 | jnwhiteh | alestane: it can? |
| 23:05.17 | mikma | and what alestane said is true |
| 23:05.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed. Pop the Wrath disc in, it'll install WoW, TBC, and Wrath |
| 23:05.26 | Fisker | mikma |
| 23:05.26 | mikma | just put wotlk dvd in and it will install everything |
| 23:05.31 | jnwhiteh | interesting. |
| 23:05.31 | Fisker | spam spelled backwards is? |
| 23:05.37 | alestane | But yes, as long as the .mpq files aren't corrupted, that will basically be a clean installation. |
| 23:05.39 | mikma | fisker: noob |
| 23:05.41 | Kawe | no way |
| 23:05.42 | Fisker | naw |
| 23:05.43 | Fisker | macs |
| 23:05.44 | ScytheBlade1 | (in one go, no as different apps) |
| 23:05.44 | Fisker | MACS |
| 23:05.50 | Fisker | bah |
| 23:05.51 | Kawe | spam spelled backwards is definitely NOT interesting |
| 23:05.52 | Fisker | meant scam |
| 23:05.53 | Fisker | fu |
| 23:05.54 | Fisker | FU |
| 23:05.57 | Kawe | that's way too many letters |
| 23:06.01 | Fisker | selfpwnt |
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| 23:06.27 | Kraps__ | "Coming Across" by Harry Turtledove - Elves who can live forever (if they don't die of boredom-literally) created a gate to visit another world (ours) in search of interesting experiences. Little do they know what they will find and accidentally bring back with them. |
| 23:06.29 | Fisker | jnwhiteh is n00b just like when he played on ravencrest |
| 23:06.51 | Kraps__ | this anthology is off the chain |
| 23:07.16 | tekkub | underpants gnomes? |
| 23:07.21 | tekkub | eait you said elves |
| 23:07.25 | Kawe | Lewis?! |
| 23:07.34 | Kraps__ | tekkub: ya |
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| 23:12.12 | Kraps__ | he lands in san fransisco in the 80s and goes to a gay bar for kicks. he hooks up with someone and they rock around for a week till he goes back. unfortunately he got aids and since the elves are bi-sexual (one of the ways to stave of boredom) he infects some people and causes a chain reaction. unfortunately the elves magic can only cure the symptoms, not the disease. |
| 23:12.37 | Lunessa | http://ihasahotdog.com/2009/07/12/funny-dog-pictures-rethinkin-friend/ |
| 23:13.12 | Kraps__ | the elf population is decimated |
| 23:14.56 | Kraps__ | many of them walk off the Green Mountain rather than live another thousand years with a sickness |
| 23:16.08 | Kraps__ | story ends with our hero taking his own walk off the Green Mountain |
| 23:16.50 | tekkub | that sounds like a stupid movie |
| 23:17.03 | Kraps__ | its in a book |
| 23:17.09 | tekkub | that sounds like a stupid book |
| 23:17.14 | Kraps__ | http://www.amazon.com/Flights-Extreme-Visions-Fantasy-Vol/dp/0451460995/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1248908554&sr=8-4 |
| 23:17.36 | Kraps__ | tekkub: the stories in here are off the chain |
| 23:18.48 | Kraps__ | extreme is right |
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| 23:24.24 | Kraps__ | "If a book has an availability status of Now, this means the book is currently in-stock. Books that are in-stock now typically have a higher availability then books that are not. This does not necessarily mean that this title will be available when your next order is generated due to fluctuations in inventory." |
| 23:24.33 | Kraps__ | this is funny |
| 23:25.25 | Kraps__ | eh, too much "contemporary" fantasy is about vampires |
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| 23:28.53 | AnduinLothar | that's ok, 10 years ago it was all about dragons |
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| 23:29.45 | Kraps__ | dragons > vampires |
| 23:29.48 | AnduinLothar | DKP -> VKP |
| 23:29.59 | Kraps__ | lol |
| 23:30.17 | AnduinLothar | that's what the new Twilight MMO is gonna use |
| 23:30.34 | Lunessa | Bah - Vampires come and go in vogue. 90s were all about vamps too |
| 23:32.20 | Kraps__ | harry potter need an mmo asap |
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| 23:33.20 | janalopa | need an opinion guys....: |
| 23:33.24 | AnduinLothar | there's a HP Wii game that sposedly blows |
| 23:33.53 | janalopa | I recently lost my job as a programmer, buttttt got by to good old life.. :) |
| 23:34.04 | janalopa | I've got some free time now to make a new addon.... |
| 23:34.55 | Kraps__ | the only good hp game i thought was good was HP1 for the gameboy color |
| 23:35.24 | Kraps__ | its had a pokeman-like combat system |
| 23:35.36 | janalopa | HAaaaaaaaaaaaa its like my GF always tells me, I speak and noone listens :) |
| 23:35.58 | alestane | You've only been here for a minute, give it time. |
| 23:36.04 | Esamynn | janalopa: what exactly have you said so far that is worthy of the opinion you asked for? |
| 23:36.05 | Thunder_Child | you didnt actually ask anything janalopa |
| 23:36.14 | Esamynn | ~lart janalopa |
| 23:36.14 | purl | changes janalopa's permissions to 0777 and tells the world |
| 23:36.16 | janalopa | yep.. sorry :) |
| 23:36.22 | alestane | Also, nothing you've said yet has seemed like a request for feedback. |
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| 23:36.33 | Thunder_Child | late alestane, so late |
| 23:36.44 | Esamynn | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 23:36.44 | purl | DoSes Thunder_Child |
| 23:36.46 | janalopa | What so you think is more needed: skype plugin for wow or web browser plugin for wow?! |
| 23:36.47 | janalopa | :) |
| 23:36.53 | ScytheBlade1 | neither |
| 23:36.53 | Thunder_Child | neither |
| 23:36.55 | Esamynn | ~lart janalopa |
| 23:36.55 | purl | changes janalopa's permissions to 0777 and tells the world |
| 23:36.59 | Esamynn | ~kill janalopa |
| 23:37.00 | purl | ACTION shoots a inverse fluxproton gun at janalopa |
| 23:37.00 | alestane | Both are impossible, so that's a tough one. |
| 23:37.01 | ScytheBlade1 | as both would likely break the WoW ToS/EULA |
| 23:37.09 | janalopa | I can do them both |
| 23:37.17 | Thunder_Child | but not legally |
| 23:37.24 | ScytheBlade1 | not without getting your account banned |
| 23:37.29 | Thunder_Child | if you want to do it as an overlay have fun |
| 23:37.31 | alestane | Overlays are one thing. |
| 23:37.37 | Thunder_Child | otherwise bugger off! |
| 23:37.45 | janalopa | overlay |
| 23:38.07 | Kraps__ | ~stfu test |
| 23:38.08 | janalopa | nice people in here, am I in texas? :) |
| 23:38.10 | ScytheBlade1 | A generic game overlay for things like browsers/skype would be neat. |
| 23:38.22 | alestane | In which case they're not really for *WoW*...but they could be useful. |
| 23:38.23 | Lunessa | Did you just dis Texas? |
| 23:38.26 | ScytheBlade1 | janalopa: a few people here are from texas.. ;) |
| 23:38.41 | Esamynn | Lunessa: I think he did |
| 23:38.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa being one of them |
| 23:38.44 | Kraps__ | Lunessa: i think he did. GET HIM |
| 23:38.52 | Thunder_Child | and here i though 'bugger off' is more of an english thing |
| 23:38.54 | Lunessa | ~lart janalopa |
| 23:38.54 | purl | decapitates janalopa conan the destroyer style |
| 23:38.56 | Thunder_Child | thought* |
| 23:39.03 | janalopa | help!! |
| 23:39.08 | janalopa | crazy ppl are after me |
| 23:39.14 | Esamynn | what did you expect? |
| 23:39.15 | Esamynn | ~irc |
| 23:39.16 | purl | Welcome to IRC, where the men are men, the women are men and the little girls are FBI agents. |
| 23:39.18 | ScytheBlade1 | No more crazy than this other guy in IRC with us |
| 23:39.21 | Kraps__ | LEAVE JANALOPA ALOOOOOONE!!!!!! |
| 23:39.26 | Thunder_Child | you ScytheBlade1? |
| 23:39.30 | alestane | Remember: once you cross the border you're not in the U.S of A. anymore, you've just entered The Great State of Texas. |
| 23:39.55 | janalopa | lol |
| 23:39.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: I meant us collectively |
| 23:40.13 | Lunessa | Once a nation in fact, always a nation in our hearts. |
| 23:40.24 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, i mean is was suggesting you as the 'other guy' |
| 23:40.25 | janalopa | so plz tell me, they are both hard tasks, should I go for skype first, or browser, or something else? |
| 23:40.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: no, I meant him |
| 23:40.40 | Thunder_Child | well you might want to check out the ones that already exist |
| 23:40.42 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 23:40.47 | janalopa | xfire? |
| 23:40.50 | Kraps__ | you've just insulted a man from the state of \(clapclapclap) texas! |
| 23:40.51 | alestane | Most people on WoW are in Vent as far as soice sommunication goes. |
| 23:40.53 | alestane | sp* |
| 23:40.56 | Thunder_Child | i know there is a browser overlay, dunno about skype |
| 23:41.07 | Esamynn | personally, I'd just say "use Windowed mode" |
| 23:41.14 | janalopa | :) |
| 23:41.50 | janalopa | windowed mode on my 17" is lame |
| 23:42.18 | Esamynn | "my 17" is lame" <-- fixed |
| 23:42.20 | janalopa | I just use to speak with teamates on skype while playing its just a bugger to alt+tab every now and then |
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| 23:43.26 | Lunessa | janalopa: You can't violate the sandbox without nuking your ability to play wow. Frankly - if you want something like that, you need an overlay and there are already two or three professionally developed products out there for that. |
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| 23:44.21 | tekkub | janalopa: multi-mon, solved |
| 23:44.29 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Forum:WoWWiki_and_Xfire_in-game_browsing! |
| 23:44.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Sargeras (n=Sargeras@75.80.16.10) |
| 23:44.57 | janalopa | yep... I knew about xfire browsing... its kinda leave one option |
| 23:44.58 | Lunessa | PlayXpert too. |
| 23:45.18 | Lunessa | http://www.playxpert.com/web/guest/home |
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| 23:49.28 | janalopa | another idea, for all of you non multi-monitors users: a plugin that shows you all your desktop (in a small window) and allows u to control any application that's running? |
| 23:49.56 | kd3 | any modern alt-tab replacement? |
| 23:50.19 | janalopa | yep |
| 23:51.33 | janalopa | we will be able to control torr_ent D/L's while playing, browser, control processes, etc |
| 23:51.48 | janalopa | any buyers? |
| 23:54.10 | tekkub | second computer for file serving and torrent, solved |
| 23:54.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Funkeh` (n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 23:55.46 | *** join/#wowuidev janalopa_ (n=janalopa@87.68.74.191.cable.012.net.il) |
| 23:56.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lua> (45+29)/2 |
| 23:56.01 | lua_bot | ScytheBlade1: 37 |
| 23:57.23 | *** join/#wowuidev janalopa (n=janalopa@87.68.74.191.cable.012.net.il) |
| 23:57.44 | Kraps__ | poor janalopa, all his dreams getting shot down by the grumpy people who make small modifications to a game |
| 23:57.54 | janalopa | :) |
| 23:58.05 | janalopa | I think the ppl here are, pro users... |
| 23:58.18 | janalopa | I rarely know friends who have 2-3 comps or 2-3 monitors |
| 23:58.29 | janalopa | think about the normal poor gamer ! :) |
| 23:58.31 | tekkub | you need different friends |
| 23:58.43 | AnduinLothar | ^^ |
| 23:59.25 | Vonhinten | You don't need friends like that.. those people are pasty white and have no girlfriend/wife |
| 23:59.31 | Thunder_Child | windowed + 2 screens = win |
| 23:59.49 | AnduinLothar | I have a tan and a g/f thank you. |
