| 00:01.33 | Gnarfoz | btw. since the terms are used almost interchangably: I want to use 'software raid', provided by the kernel, not some controller BIOS thingy raid |
| 00:02.00 | Gnarfoz | dmraid seems to be the latter, mdadm etc. the former |
| 00:02.07 | Gnarfoz | at least according to http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid ^^ |
| 00:02.13 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 00:02.48 | Gnarfoz | so dmraid=true would not be for me anyway; I'll check the loadable installer module thingy you said :) |
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| 00:06.07 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: crypto-dm-modules-*, crypto-modules-*, that's all I can see here |
| 00:06.24 | Arrowmaster | i swear there was a multi something |
| 00:06.38 | Arrowmaster | i guess maybe it wasnt anything to do with md raid |
| 00:06.46 | Gnarfoz | multipath |
| 00:06.54 | tem | oh god |
| 00:06.54 | Gnarfoz | that's for networking, I think |
| 00:06.59 | tem | a friend of mine was just in an accident |
| 00:07.15 | Gnarfoz | tem|afk: ...good luck? |
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| 00:16.26 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: so, I set up identical partitions on both HDDs using the installer, told the installer to write that out to disks, created 3 raid1 md's and now set it up to use dm-crypt on the large one... wonder if that's going to work :D |
| 00:16.43 | Gnarfoz | also, lol, Still Alive techno remix on a live stream from some club |
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| 00:22.44 | Hjalte | Gnarfoz: http://xkcd.net/606/ |
| 00:22.57 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: of course. :) |
| 00:49.46 | Arrowmaster | "In a newly-disclosed patent application for Embedding a Unique Serial Number into the Content of an Email for Tracking Information Dispersion (phew!), Big Blue describes how it's automated the creation of Canary Traps with patent-pending software that makes ever-so-slight changes to e-mail wording to allow you to spy on the unsuspecting recipients of your e-mail." |
| 00:50.01 | Arrowmaster | how can you pattent something thats been part of the e-mail standard since the beginning? |
| 00:50.41 | Corrodias | by having nobody contest the patent |
| 00:50.52 | Arrowmaster | emails have always had unique serials |
| 00:50.54 | Gnarfoz | it's an application, not a patent, indeed |
| 00:51.10 | Arrowmaster | although its part of the headers and not the body |
| 00:51.13 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: I think you misunderstand |
| 00:51.50 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: They're talking about changing the content of messages (email would be but one option) subtly to track its flow |
| 00:52.03 | Arrowmaster | oh i understand, they are pattenting putting something unique into html email comments or something so its hidden and nobody sees it to remove it since if it was plaintext it could just be removed |
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| 00:52.12 | Arrowmaster | they said unique serial number |
| 00:52.29 | Legorol | Arrowmaster: even that superficial summary has enough information to understand what they are doing |
| 00:52.31 | Iriel | Here's the idea |
| 00:52.34 | Legorol | they are changing the *wording* |
| 00:52.36 | Iriel | I send an email to 10,000 employees |
| 00:52.42 | Legorol | that sounds pretty innovative |
| 00:52.44 | Iriel | Each one recieves a slightly different email |
| 00:52.49 | Legorol | (and evil) |
| 00:53.04 | Iriel | if one of them posts their email to say, twitter, then they can back-track to the right person |
| 00:53.22 | Iriel | I'd be curious to know how well it works in the real world, without hitting a linguistic uncanny-valley |
| 00:53.56 | Legorol | i'd also be curious, Arrowmaster, which RFC(s) are you referring to when you are referring to the "email standard" |
| 00:54.06 | Legorol | because afaik SMTP doesn't require a unique serial in the header |
| 00:54.14 | Arrowmaster | Message-Id: |
| 00:54.51 | Arrowmaster | its also what makes threads in gmail work |
| 00:54.53 | Iriel | And obviously, as soon as knowledge of the technique is out (hi slashdot), the trick is to compare your copy of the message with that of N co-workers |
| 00:55.01 | Arrowmaster | or any other client with a threaded display option |
| 00:55.46 | Arrowmaster | but still their definiton of 'unique serial number' is highly flawed |
| 00:56.26 | Arrowmaster | plus havent we seen this before in enterprise data tracking software? |
| 00:57.19 | Legorol | Arrowmaster: since you so knowledgably declared what is and isn't the case, i have actually bothered checking some of the relevant RFCs |
| 00:57.42 | Legorol | RFC 821 on SMTP naturally doesn't specify the structure of the header, as SMTP doesn't need to know about it |
| 00:57.57 | Legorol | going further, RFC 2822 on Internet Message Format |
| 00:58.23 | Legorol | specifies Message-Id as a field that should be present, but optional |
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| 01:00.21 | Gnarfoz | anyway, this is like cap codes on movies, if you want an analogy |
| 01:00.54 | Arrowmaster | right, just more pointless stuff thats easly defeated |
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| 01:01.50 | Gnarfoz | for someone who totally misunderstood what your quote was about, you seem awfully confident of it being defeated easily |
| 01:02.04 | Arrowmaster | Legorol: some things that are 'optional' arent really anymore due to spam prevention techniques, i dont know about message-id but everything i know includes it |
| 01:02.37 | Arrowmaster | i read the pattent description i know what its about, but their description of it using 'unique serial numbers' is just stupid |
| 01:03.04 | Corrodias | who's going to coordinate the issuance of unique ID's? |
| 01:03.39 | Corrodias | issuing... production |
| 01:03.40 | Iriel | They mean 'unique amongst the collection of messages' |
| 01:03.59 | Iriel | You're so eager to pull something apart you're losing common sense |
| 01:04.43 | Corrodias | whoa, i've clearly walked into the wrong discussion. never mind. |
| 01:05.10 | Corrodias | idle curiosity isn't worth any trouble |
| 01:09.17 | Dagmar | Iriel: In the real world, steganographic tagging's success is directly related to the complexity of the tagged message. |
| 01:09.29 | Dagmar | HTML you stand a slightly better chance of being able to hide secrets in than plaintext |
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| 01:09.39 | Iriel | Dagmar: The patent is about plaintext |
| 01:09.50 | Dagmar | Which patent? |
| 01:10.00 | Arrowmaster | latest story on /. |
| 01:10.03 | Iriel | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/07/24/2243209/IBM-Seeks-Patent-On-Digital-Witch-Hunts |
| 01:10.11 | Iriel | Doesn't everyone here read /. periodically? 8-) |
| 01:10.14 | Dagmar | Ah... |
| 01:10.17 | Dagmar | Dpeends on when they filed for it |
| 01:10.29 | Iriel | 2008 |
| 01:10.47 | Dagmar | Oh, on the surface of it, not a chance. |
| 01:10.52 | Arrowmaster | "A critical flaw has been discovered in DD-WRT, a Linux based alternative open source firmware for WLAN routers such as the fan-favorite Linksys WRT54GL. The flaw can give an attacker instant root access to the router merely by embedding an image with a specially crafted URL in a Web page (CSRF attack)." tomato ftw |
| 01:10.53 | Dagmar | Prior art stands a really good chance of tanking it |
| 01:11.35 | Iriel | Yeah, it's a well known and i'd argue obvious technique |
| 01:11.45 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: read further down on slashdot, theres an article about a pattent dispute getting approved even though a simple google search turns up prior art |
| 01:11.45 | Iriel | And personally I find patents that automate anything to be spurious |
| 01:11.52 | Iriel | but the US patent system is entirely broken |
| 01:11.54 | Dagmar | I would argue the difference between this and embedding extra whitespace would be trivial |
| 01:12.12 | Arrowmaster | agreed, wtb patent reform |
| 01:13.10 | Dagmar | Frankly tho, I think they can just keep this one |
| 01:13.42 | Dagmar | What they're outlining is heavily reliant on folks like say, in the marketing department, not getting pissed off about having their magical adjectives messed with. |
| 01:13.55 | Arrowmaster | i was mainly just complaining that the entire description sounds like they are trying to patent part of the email standards, even though they arent |
| 01:14.18 | Iriel | Dagmar: Or worse yet, changing the intent of the text by accident |
| 01:14.28 | Dagmar | Nah they'er patenting a method for steganographic marking in email, but it's likely that most if not all of it would be slapped down by prior art |
| 01:14.44 | Dagmar | Definitely embedding unique codes in emails to spot leaks has been done to death, even before 2000 |
| 01:15.03 | Iriel | It's been done for decades |
| 01:15.14 | Iriel | In paper documents |
| 01:15.16 | Dagmar | Iriel: Yeah I can't come up with any examples at the moment, but I suspect this method could cause some pervy emails to go out |
| 01:15.55 | Dagmar | "Visit today and get 20% off Tysons Chicken Titties" |
| 01:17.55 | Dagmar | THey migth get it, but at least for once it's specific enough to not apply to every kind of email tagging there is |
| 01:18.00 | Arrowmaster | ideally the system would make one copy with all possible replacements made to be reviewed first |
| 01:18.07 | Arrowmaster | but we all know ibm isnt that smart |
| 01:18.16 | Iriel | They actually show that in their patent |
| 01:18.25 | Iriel | But I'd argue on any useful scale that's infeasable |
| 01:19.13 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 01:19.16 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2009/07/video_game_bling_the_halo_ring.php |
| 01:19.17 | Dagmar | You'd need a *large* document |
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| 01:46.06 | DWSR | hey all |
| 01:46.17 | DWSR | Satrina's Buff Frames = winsauce. Just the mod I was looking for for my buffs. |
| 01:49.54 | Gnarfoz | heard it has performance troubles ;O |
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| 02:19.55 | kd3 | grr |
| 02:19.58 | kd3 | where the hell is the ptr build? |
| 02:20.02 | kd3 | pokes his scripts |
| 02:30.45 | kd3 | yay! |
| 02:30.47 | kd3 | emails away |
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| 02:32.11 | anesthesia | Hello! |
| 02:32.18 | anesthesia | What addons do yall recommend? |
| 02:32.33 | ScytheBlade1 | whatever *you* need/want. |
| 02:32.56 | anesthesia | Well, where do I find a lot of them? |
| 02:33.08 | DWSR | wowi/curse. |
| 02:33.08 | Corrodias | i can give you a list of about 400 that i used back in 2.4. i haven't played since then. most of them probably don't exist any more. |
| 02:33.26 | anesthesia | You do not play, yet you are in a WoW chatroom? |
| 02:33.50 | kd3 | a lot of us are in various states of not playing |
| 02:34.19 | anesthesia | I just started my subscription back a few days ago, but I did not chat in the chatrooms when I am not playing. |
| 02:34.32 | Cairenn|afk | anesthesia: this isn't your usual wow chatroom |
| 02:34.35 | anesthesia | I have been playing since X-mas of 2008 - i am only level 44 :( |
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| 02:35.07 | Shirik|Ghost | (19:34:13)  -⺠(irc.freenode.net) *** Your forward and reverse DNS don't match |
| 02:35.09 | Shirik|Ghost | that's wierd |
| 02:35.14 | mikma | this room is also about hot chicks riding a huge black cock |
| 02:35.25 | Cairenn | smacks mikma |
| 02:35.29 | anesthesia | Mikma, I believe that is inappropriate. |
| 02:35.39 | Corrodias | you fool, the males get on top of the females in chicken mating methods |
| 02:35.44 | Corrodias | and peck. it's weird. |
| 02:35.45 | Arrowmaster | Shirik|Ghost: means whatever is in your rDNS does not give your ip when its looked up |
| 02:35.49 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o mikma] by Shirik|Ghost |
| 02:36.01 | anesthesia | I am 17 :) |
| 02:36.39 | mikma | yey, -o |
| 02:36.57 | Shirik | made teriyaki chickens! |
| 02:37.32 | Corrodias | be prepared to see non-worksafe things here, if you wish to stay |
| 02:37.38 | Corrodias | mmm, once in a while. |
| 02:37.52 | Shirik | we also have Cairenn |
| 02:38.01 | Shirik | she likes to get feisty |
| 02:38.08 | DWSR | woot! |
| 02:38.13 | DWSR | Show me your genitals! |
| 02:38.16 | Shirik | ... |
| 02:38.23 | DWSR | It's a youtube vid. |
| 02:38.27 | DWSR | relax. |
| 02:38.27 | anesthesia | Very nice youtube video. |
| 02:38.36 | DWSR | It's effing hilarious. |
| 02:38.44 | Shirik | I don't think I want to watch a youtube video named "show me your genitals" |
| 02:38.48 | anesthesia | It is funny! |
| 02:38.52 | anesthesia | Its a music video. |
| 02:39.01 | kd3 | crap! I'm stuck in a loop on the transport to the skybreaker |
| 02:39.02 | DWSR | Shirik: It's a music vid, all clean, and hilarious. |
| 02:39.09 | anesthesia | It aint all clean |
| 02:39.17 | kd3 | my little mech is just flying around in circles |
| 02:39.20 | anesthesia | they say something like: can't fuck your phd |
| 02:39.22 | Corrodias | it is as clean as a baby's buttocks |
| 02:39.44 | DWSR | I can't stick my dick in your college degree. |
| 02:39.50 | anesthesia | there you go. |
| 02:39.50 | mikma | mah |
| 02:40.05 | anesthesia | I am a woman! |
| 02:40.08 | Shirik | wtf is this crap |
| 02:40.15 | Cairenn | umm, guys? |
| 02:40.15 | anesthesia | what crap? |
| 02:40.17 | Corrodias | DWSR: he clearly never TRIED |
| 02:40.18 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/man_with_a_very_big_cock.jpg |
| 02:40.24 | mikma | thats all i could find now |
| 02:41.13 | mikma | cairenn: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/wet_pussy2.jpg .. altho it is not wet |
| 02:41.28 | anesthesia | Mikma, do you find yourself funny? |
| 02:41.36 | sacarasc | I find mikma funny. |
| 02:41.45 | anesthesia | your being sarcastic |
| 02:41.50 | Shirik | ok, you all suck |
| 02:41.55 | Shirik | that was worst song ever |
| 02:41.57 | Corrodias | doesn't have to find him; he knows perfectly well where and how funny mikma is! |
| 02:42.13 | anesthesia | It is a very neat song Shirik! |
| 02:42.21 | anesthesia | Although it puts down my kind. |
| 02:42.21 | mikma | anesthesia: yes i find myself funny |
| 02:42.26 | DWSR | Shirik: You should check out the sequel. |
| 02:42.32 | Shirik | it's incredibly stupid |
| 02:42.37 | DWSR | Shirik: e =mc^2 vagina. |
| 02:42.39 | anesthesia | The sequel sucks!!!!!! |
| 02:42.46 | anesthesia | Have yall seen autotune the newS? |
| 02:42.56 | Cairenn | anesthesia: may I suggest to you that you not come into a channel that you know absolutely nothing of and insult the regulars |
| 02:43.03 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuNxHqwazs |
| 02:43.12 | Shirik | much better |
| 02:43.26 | anesthesia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBb4cjjj1gI |
| 02:43.31 | DWSR | Shirik: PT2. |
| 02:43.33 | DWSR | kthx. |
| 02:43.34 | Cairenn | one minute you're acting all offended and like some little prude, the next you've got the mouth to make a slut blush |
| 02:44.47 | Cairenn | as I said, this isn't your typical wow chat room and I suggest you figure things out before you start in on people |
| 02:44.50 | mikma | cairenn: thats called tourettes or something |
| 02:45.08 | mikma | like, i love you SHITCOCK very much |
| 02:45.09 | anesthesia | omg i got a tourettes like symptom! i have a twitch |
| 02:45.42 | Cairenn | goes back to her movie |
| 02:45.55 | Tuller | i'm sleepy! |
| 02:45.58 | DWSR | anesthesia: Shut. Up. |
| 02:46.02 | DWSR | Please. |
| 02:46.17 | anesthesia | What do yall think of autotune the news? |
| 02:46.17 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/how_to_yt.jpg |
| 02:47.15 | anesthesia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eooXNd0heM&feature=related |
| 02:48.07 | DWSR | anesthesia: I hear a foghorn. |
| 02:48.11 | DWSR | anesthesia: BOOOORRRINNGG. etc. |
| 02:48.12 | mikma | haHAA! |
| 02:48.14 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/hot-chick-with-wet-pussy-riding-huge-black-cock.png |
| 02:48.19 | mikma | found it! |
| 02:49.05 | sacarasc | Hahahaha. |
| 02:49.08 | Gnarfoz | kd3: huh, this build's diff is really tiny... also, good idea to make the mail subject a bit verbose |
| 02:49.12 | Shirik | ... |
| 02:49.42 | DWSR | mikma: hehe |
| 02:51.17 | Corrodias | smirkle |
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| 03:02.19 | anesthesia | Thank you :) |
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| 03:36.40 | mikma | inappropriate mikma signing out. peace! |
| 03:37.24 | Corrodias | byee |
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| 04:41.36 | Thunder_Child | mikma, damit |
| 04:41.43 | Thunder_Child | get yer arse back here |
| 04:42.28 | tekkub | hrm... that's a nice turnoff |
| 04:42.35 | tekkub | addon says it supports 3.1 |
| 04:42.44 | tekkub | but there's a fanupdate of it a month later |
| 04:42.53 | tekkub | not inspiring confidence... |
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| 04:44.05 | Thunder_Child | i can has mai addon tekkub? |
| 04:44.13 | tekkub | maybe... |
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| 05:02.28 | Wobin | http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/monsterpod-mini-tripod |
| 05:02.32 | Wobin | this would be really useful |
| 05:02.40 | Wobin | ... if it could handle heavier cameras =( |
| 05:05.50 | Shirik | 20 oz? |
| 05:05.56 | Shirik | What the fuck kind of camera is that |
| 05:06.02 | Shirik | That's not even 1/5 of my camera |
| 05:06.10 | Shirik | that |
| 05:06.22 | Shirik | that's like 1/3 of the BODY of my camera |
| 05:06.32 | sacarasc | Your camera is heavy. |
| 05:07.36 | DWSR | Shirik: well, if you have the camera on a ledge, it probably supports more than 20oz. |
| 05:10.03 | Shirik | still I doubt it's sufficient to hold my camera |
| 05:10.06 | Shirik | not surprised though |
| 05:11.37 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
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| 05:30.05 | Adys | Anyone good with hairstyle names? |
| 05:31.25 | Adys | how would you call mouth-high that's curled on the last couple of centimeters; like.. |
| 05:31.28 | Adys | trying to find a picture |
| 05:31.34 | DWSR | a flip? |
| 05:31.40 | tekkub | emo? |
| 05:31.56 | Gnarfoz | ugleh? |
| 05:31.57 | Adys | no, not emo |
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| 05:32.08 | tekkub | "hair"? |
| 05:32.18 | Adys | http://www.eayoyo.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/d426d_celebrity-sedu-hairstyles-14_jpg.jpg |
| 05:32.20 | Adys | ok, this, but |
| 05:32.23 | Adys | MUCH more curled |
| 05:32.25 | Adys | on the end only |
| 05:32.40 | DWSR | Curled in or out? |
| 05:32.46 | Adys | in |
| 05:32.56 | DWSR | It's sort of a flip, but in reverse? |
| 05:33.00 | DWSR | A flip is more out, away from the head. |
| 05:33.09 | Adys | yeah |
| 05:33.15 | Cairenn | that's a pretty basic bob |
| 05:33.20 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 05:33.26 | DWSR | That's what she said, anyway. |
| 05:33.55 | Adys | http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_p39Trjz5E-o/SbUUxYfsBUI/AAAAAAAAAt0/Ikz4gVb2oug/s800/short+black+bob+hair.jpg |
| 05:33.56 | Adys | that? |
| 05:34.04 | Adys | its more curled than that |
| 05:34.10 | Adys | like you could stuff a couple more heads under it. |
| 05:34.21 | DWSR | Adys: Just take a pic? |
| 05:34.29 | Cairenn | not all bobs are straight |
| 05:34.38 | Adys | how do you want me to take a pic Im trying to remember a bloody dream >_> |
| 05:34.42 | DWSR | ah. |
| 05:34.42 | Cairenn | and the joy of them is that you can wear them any number of ways |
| 05:35.01 | Cairenn | having them curl under at the end is not at all uncommon |
| 05:35.09 | Cairenn | http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=hairstyles%20bob&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi |
| 05:35.50 | Adys | http://www.aaa-fashion.com/wp-content/uploads/ricci.jpg maybe something like that (right side) but wider |
| 05:35.56 | Adys | anyway, thanks |
| 05:36.31 | Arrowmaster | you dream about hair styles? weird |
| 05:36.51 | Adys | There were three persons in my dream whom Im positive I've met |
| 05:36.54 | Adys | but cant figure out who they are |
| 05:37.00 | Arrowmaster | why cant you just be normal like the rest of us and dream about being naked in different places |
| 05:37.17 | Adys | they were all three naked and with very large hair. |
| 05:37.20 | Adys | (no they were not) |
| 05:37.54 | Adys | I think the guy was a teacher i had back in school |
| 05:38.28 | Adys | I'm not too sure. i saw him with a hitlerian mustache and er, it creeps me out. |
| 05:56.41 | Adys | ~seen Maldivia |
| 05:56.44 | purl | maldivia is currently on #wowuidev (14d 22h 41m 50s). Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 10d 8h 53m 43s, last said: 'if you kill any before the 8th spawn, no hard-mode for you'. |
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| 06:31.51 | AbsolutRayne | Evening. :) |
| 06:33.24 | AbsolutRayne | Is there currently an Addon that displays Vehichles extra functions, like Pyrite and Steam Power? Since I have Dominos, theres no way to display it without disabling and using the stock UI. |
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| 06:43.29 | Gnarfoz | AbsolutRayne: funnily enough, that's unitframe territory. |
| 06:44.17 | Wobin | makes up a batch of Bircher muesli |
| 06:44.25 | Wobin | this is actually quite nice |
| 06:44.27 | Gnarfoz | müsli ftw |
| 06:44.33 | AbsolutRayne | Gnarfoz: Huh. PitBull doesnt have an option for Pyrite, but it does have it for Steam Power or Energy when youre on a Chopper. |
| 06:44.33 | Gnarfoz | but what is Bircher müsli ;o |
| 06:44.49 | Wobin | basically muesli mixed with yoghurt |
| 06:44.50 | Gnarfoz | AbsolutRayne: hmm? it's just another powertype, it should work universally |
| 06:44.57 | Wobin | and you leave it overnight at least to 'soak' |
| 06:45.07 | Wobin | have with honey and some grated apple |
| 06:45.08 | Gnarfoz | Wobin: ah, I see |
| 06:45.32 | AbsolutRayne | Gnarfoz: Wont display as a Gunner, no matter what. So basically I either mindlessly grab Pyrite, or I dont fast enough and get yelled at. :P |
| 06:45.54 | Gnarfoz | uhm, it always displayed correctly for me... ;o |
| 06:46.00 | Wobin | AbsolutRayne: ... it's always shown up fine as the 'mana bar' for me... |
| 06:46.25 | AbsolutRayne | -shrug- Maybe I have something set wrong. |
| 06:46.47 | Wobin | how are you seeing -your- healthbar when you hop into the vehicle? |
| 06:46.52 | Gnarfoz | if desperate, you could try focusing the 'driver' part of the vehicle and look at that, if it really doesn't tell you the Pyrite level as the gunner |
| 06:46.55 | Wobin | is it still -yours- or the vehicles? |
| 06:47.08 | Gnarfoz | I don't think pitbull does unit swapping at all |
| 06:47.12 | Wobin | alas =\ |
| 06:47.13 | End | PB4 does |
| 06:47.16 | End | PB3 probably not |
| 06:47.25 | Gnarfoz | pb3 certainly doesn't, not sure about pb4 |
| 06:47.26 | End | although I suspect PB3 counts your vehicle as your pet |
| 06:47.37 | Gnarfoz | yeah, pet = vehicle |
| 06:47.42 | Wobin | is going to try to make http://www.lovintheoven.com/2009/07/black-bottom-cupcakes.html |
| 06:47.44 | End | I can assure you PB4 does (although it might be a toggeable) |
| 06:47.56 | End | does swap I mean |
| 06:47.57 | Wobin | but replacing the cocoa with lindt 70% |
| 06:48.06 | Gnarfoz | well, if swapping is on, it should also display whatever energy type |
| 06:48.10 | End | yeah |
| 06:48.18 | End | it does |
| 06:50.44 | Thunder_Child | no way. http://notalwaysright.com/elemental-state-of-confusion/2062 |
| 06:51.42 | Wobin | that's gotta be photoshopped |
| 06:51.57 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 06:51.58 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 06:52.42 | Thunder_Child | what a fail waste of the not chocolate |
| 06:53.14 | Adys | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=83395.msg1205584#msg1205584 |
| 06:56.08 | Thunder_Child | am i just failing to see what is so special about Aion? |
| 06:56.10 | Wobin | woo |
| 06:56.16 | Wobin | http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/video/2009/jul/24/alice-in-wonderland-trailer |
| 06:56.20 | Adys | Thunder_Child: dont you see |
| 06:56.25 | Adys | it's a wow killer |
| 06:56.28 | Adys | so obvious |
| 06:56.34 | Adys | its like |
| 06:56.38 | Adys | basically |
| 06:56.39 | Thunder_Child | is it that good then? |
| 06:56.39 | Adys | vanguard. |
| 06:56.44 | Adys | no its not |
| 06:56.55 | Adys | its another fucking mmo and its another fucking bandwagon of OMG WOW IS GONNA DIE |
| 06:56.58 | Conexion | Aion is trying to do what many others hae failed to do |
| 06:57.02 | Adys | no |
| 06:57.04 | Adys | they're not |
| 06:57.12 | Adys | they're devs trying to get some market share |
| 06:57.19 | Adys | thats smart, they're gonna get money |
| 06:57.20 | Thunder_Child | mmm...witte chocolade |
| 06:57.39 | Adys | unlike aoc and war which just wanted to steal wow's players which was the dumbest move EVER |
| 06:57.43 | Conexion | Oh, I know they are |
| 06:57.55 | Conexion | I had just heard that they were actively trying to take wow players during beta |
| 06:58.01 | Adys | no |
| 06:58.12 | Adys | wow players were actively trying to be fuckwhiners |
| 06:58.48 | Conexion | Heh |
| 06:58.49 | Wobin | The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you. |
| 06:58.52 | Wobin | alas |
| 06:58.59 | Adys | yeha couldnt be arsed with it |
| 06:59.43 | Conexion | Would I be allowed to ask the opinion of some people here on an image I'm working on for a game? |
| 06:59.54 | Adys | you can do that |
| 06:59.59 | Adys | but youll go to jail afterwards |
| 07:00.12 | Conexion | Hah, I don't collect $200 either I presume? |
| 07:01.08 | Adys | just ask |
| 07:01.14 | Conexion | It's a cow - http://www.davidbradbury.us/cow3.png |
| 07:01.23 | Conexion | I feel like something is missing |
| 07:01.33 | Wobin | like the fact it's made from wool? |
| 07:01.45 | Conexion | Hah |
| 07:01.51 | Wobin | how about a tail? |
| 07:02.03 | Conexion | oh yeah, that would be something it should have, lol |
| 07:02.06 | Wobin | or horns |
| 07:02.09 | Arrowmaster | i think your server just blew up |
| 07:03.03 | Conexion | Hmm, I was debating putting small horns on it, as some dairy cows don't even have visible horns |
| 07:03.03 | Thunder_Child | no it didnt |
| 07:03.07 | Arrowmaster | i hope thats not on your home connection |
| 07:03.08 | Thunder_Child | works for me |
| 07:03.25 | Conexion | yeah... I'm not having problems on the server, and it not a home server |
| 07:03.41 | Thunder_Child | needs more definition between head and body |
| 07:03.46 | Arrowmaster | i got nothing for like a minute then it finally loaded |
| 07:03.53 | Conexion | odd o_o |
| 07:04.07 | Conexion | Hmm, yeah they do kind of run into eachother |
| 07:04.42 | Thunder_Child | and the center black spot has to straight of a line, i dont think nature goes in for that sort of thing |
| 07:05.29 | Thunder_Child | the udder needs shading to give it a 3d feel |
| 07:05.56 | Thunder_Child | and i will assume the light source is top right? |
| 07:06.06 | Conexion | Yup |
| 07:06.12 | Conexion | Yeah, the utters do need more depth |
| 07:06.26 | Conexion | and i just fixed the middle dot |
| 07:06.37 | End | o/~ conjunction junction, what's your function o/~ |
| 07:06.55 | End | oh god, the random shit I find on youtube |
| 07:08.15 | Thunder_Child | i could be picky and say that the shading on the front legs would start lower due to the body of the cow being in the way, but it's very minor |
| 07:09.25 | Conexion | True |
| 07:09.46 | Conexion | I like picky, also, that's pretty easy to fix |
| 07:10.39 | Thunder_Child | also you might think about smal slightly shaded half circles for nostrals |
| 07:10.43 | Thunder_Child | or some such |
| 07:11.47 | Thunder_Child | http://www.ars.usda.gov/images/docs/4681_4865/ARS%20dairy%20cow.jpg might help |
| 07:13.00 | Conexion | Kk, thanks :) |
| 07:15.03 | Adys | lol.. |
| 07:17.14 | Thunder_Child | sorry Adys, i wont put a picture of your mom next time |
| 07:17.38 | Conexion | heh |
| 07:17.45 | Adys | no |
| 07:17.59 | Adys | Im just wondering why django allows having a fkey and a m2m in a through table towards the same model |
| 07:18.01 | Adys | but not 2 fkeys |
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| 07:31.40 | AbsolutRayne | http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/POLITICS/07/24/health.care.slowdown/t1home.ross.obama.waxman.gi.jpg Democrats make the same faces. |
| 07:34.49 | Adys | !api extended |
| 07:34.49 | lua_bot | GetExtendedItemInfo: This is a Blizzard internal function (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetExtendedItemInfo) |
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| 07:40.47 | Adys | !api teamsize |
| 07:40.47 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'teamsize'. |
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| 07:48.08 | Constie | Conclusion: Democrats are evil robots, possibly Decepticons. |
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| 07:52.36 | Industrial | you know what I doner |
| 07:52.52 | Industrial | do celebrities ever get halted at airport security? |
| 07:53.02 | Industrial | do any of them ever have to take a cavity search? |
| 07:53.13 | Adys | what do you boner Industrial |
| 07:53.18 | Industrial | what if you are a huge fan and you happen to work at airport security |
| 07:53.32 | Industrial | dunno* |
| 07:53.45 | Adys | celebrities got private jets |
| 07:53.54 | Industrial | so they can smuggle? |
| 07:54.01 | Adys | so they can snuggle yes |
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| 09:14.43 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://foodlibrarian.blogspot.com/2009/07/rabbit-manju-from-piyonya-in-kyoto.html |
| 09:14.47 | msoul | wobin |
| 09:14.49 | Wobin | RABBIT MANJU |
| 09:14.58 | msoul | check this out |
| 09:15.27 | msoul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Aammaa |
| 09:15.38 | msoul | If i put +16 def on belt and 41 stamina on vest |
| 09:15.44 | msoul | and trade my titanium ring for |
| 09:15.48 | msoul | signet |
| 09:15.58 | msoul | of winter |
| 09:16.00 | msoul | what do you thing |
| 09:16.10 | msoul | i have to play with gems a little |
| 09:16.20 | msoul | think* |
| 09:19.00 | Wobin | looks good |
| 09:19.20 | msoul | bought it for 1000g and wanted to sell it for 1300g :P |
| 09:19.32 | msoul | guess i have to cancel |
| 09:19.41 | msoul | on the trinket i could add another 16 def |
| 09:19.44 | Wobin | You might want to change the gems a bit |
| 09:19.50 | Wobin | go for dodge, not parry |
| 09:19.54 | msoul | yeah definitely |
| 09:19.59 | msoul | right |
| 09:19.59 | msoul | sec |
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| 09:21.38 | Wobin | or replace the crab |
| 09:21.48 | Wobin | but you probably won't find stuff til you start raiding more |
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| 09:21.55 | msoul | yeah i don't have the recipe yet for doddge |
| 09:22.03 | msoul | 68g |
| 09:22.08 | msoul | dodge and stamina on trinket |
| 09:22.14 | msoul | and 41 stamina on vest |
| 09:22.19 | Wobin | hehe, don't let that stop you buying from the AH |
| 09:22.47 | msoul | nah i wont :P |
| 09:22.59 | msoul | i just need to figure out to max my def rate |
| 09:23.13 | msoul | 16 isn't enough will give away 29 alone from that ring |
| 09:23.14 | Wobin | well |
| 09:23.28 | Wobin | you'll have 4 eyes, if you add another 41 stam dragon's eye |
| 09:23.53 | msoul | 4?! |
| 09:24.04 | Wobin | head, legs, ring |
| 09:24.33 | Wobin | just saying that it's 3 eye unique =) |
| 09:24.48 | msoul | ah right |
| 09:24.56 | msoul | i can add only 3 dragon's eye right? |
| 09:25.00 | Wobin | yeah |
| 09:25.16 | msoul | +8 def on 12 stamina on vest and 41 stamina |
| 09:25.20 | msoul | 16 def on belt |
| 09:25.38 | Gnarfoz | will 'dmesg' style stuff that originated from during the initrd phase show up in regular 'dmesg'? |
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| 09:27.41 | msoul | brb a sec |
| 09:27.52 | Wobin | msoul: you'll want to keep your defense:dodge ratio around 2:1 or 3:2 |
| 09:28.04 | Wobin | (I think) |
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| 09:34.10 | msoul | Wobin: what's the def cap though? |
| 09:34.18 | Wobin | there is no 'cap' per se |
| 09:34.28 | Wobin | the -soft- cap, is what makes you uncrittable |
| 09:34.35 | Wobin | at 540 for raids |
| 09:34.38 | msoul | 542 def |
| 09:34.55 | Wobin | but defense doesn't suffer from diminishing returns like pure dodge or parry does |
| 09:35.03 | Wobin | and defense adds to parry and dodge |
| 09:35.08 | msoul | gave away my expertise, 16 now |
| 09:35.20 | msoul | hmm |
| 09:35.36 | Wobin | priority wise, you'll want Defense, then dodge, then stam, then parry |
| 09:36.11 | Wobin | Ideally, you'll want your gear to push you over the soft cap by a decent margin |
| 09:36.16 | msoul | 31593k unbuffed |
| 09:36.18 | Wobin | so you have room to swap items in and out |
| 09:36.48 | msoul | my friend pointed out wow-heroes to me yesterday, with my current gear i can do all except uldu25 and eoe25 :P |
| 09:36.54 | msoul | ulduar10 on yellow |
| 09:37.10 | msoul | can i add another socket for the belt or only 1 for a none BS? |
| 09:37.23 | ZorbaBeta | only one |
| 09:37.32 | ZorbaBeta | (bs or not, the bs bonus is to add sockets to gloves and bracers) |
| 09:37.42 | msoul | Ah right |
| 09:37.56 | msoul | was 267 and had to gie it away to JC :/ |
| 09:38.16 | msoul | Was a pain in the arse to level it up "mithril/silver" |
| 09:38.19 | Wobin | your stam is already pretty decent. |
| 09:38.29 | Wobin | With 25man raid buffs, you'll hit 40k hp |
| 09:38.37 | Wobin | oh god, mithril/silver =( |
| 09:38.40 | Wobin | worst 'hump' ever |
| 09:38.55 | Wobin | I was never so glad as to finally break into fel iron =P |
| 09:39.10 | msoul | hahaha |
| 09:39.23 | Wobin | thorium was painful too |
| 09:40.30 | sacarasc | I'm glad I have a maxed out miner to get all the bars of stuff I need for my BS/JC. |
| 09:40.39 | msoul | i hate everything in old contents, from outland to northrend took my two days with mining |
| 09:40.40 | Wobin | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Proudmoore&n=snuusnu |
| 09:40.46 | Wobin | sacarasc: similarly. |
| 09:41.00 | Wobin | My DK feeds my JC/Inscr with herbs and ore |
| 09:41.23 | Fisker | reboots Wobin |
| 09:41.27 | msoul | i'm going to start a rogue actually with skinning and leatherworking as professions |
| 09:41.33 | msoul | priest enchanting/tailoring ofc |
| 09:41.53 | Wobin | I just wish BS had some decent BS only weapons |
| 09:42.11 | Wobin | I miss the days of Dragonmaw and the like |
| 09:42.14 | sacarasc | BS now only gives the extra gem slots, right? |
| 09:42.19 | Wobin | yeah |
| 09:42.20 | msoul | hehe |
| 09:42.30 | msoul | Wobin: good gear though, ulduar recipes |
| 09:42.37 | Wobin | if you want the best bang for buck, I believe it's JC/BS |
| 09:42.39 | msoul | that waist and feet |
| 09:42.48 | Fisker | big space ship has arrived |
| 09:44.41 | msoul | imho, JC and either enchanting/bs is good professions for tanks |
| 09:46.44 | msoul | cannot find def and stamina gems and i don't have the recipe yet :/ |
| 09:48.14 | msoul | u ciykd put 16 dodge or def and loose that 9+ bonus stamina |
| 09:49.00 | msoul | 21 actually |
| 09:49.09 | msoul | bleh will check it later |
| 09:49.39 | msoul | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:50.43 | msoul | thanks wobin |
| 09:51.01 | msoul | Great jedi master you will be :P |
| 09:51.09 | Wobin | no worries =) Happy tanking =) |
| 09:51.17 | msoul | hehe thanks |
| 09:51.31 | msoul | actually i had two battles were i laughed in the middle |
| 09:51.38 | msoul | one who had t8 + ironsoul |
| 09:51.48 | msoul | with my gear i killed him and in the middle me always /laugh |
| 09:52.04 | msoul | today was on my dps gear, he killed me, switched get back and laugh as i did the first time |
| 09:52.08 | msoul | :P |
| 09:52.10 | msoul | <----- Evul |
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| 09:54.24 | msoul | i dislike one thing about the game, when you chat in /1 or /2 with your native language |
| 09:54.37 | msoul | whether it is swedish/polish or gebberish |
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| 10:02.02 | Legorol | msoul: when you are walking down the middle of a large, busy shopping maul, do you get upset if a couple of people happen to be talking in their own language as you walk past them? |
| 10:02.28 | msoul | there is no logic in your argument |
| 10:02.29 | Legorol | s/maul/mall |
| 10:03.13 | Legorol | imo, /1 and /2 are public places where everyone can chat in whatever form they wish. Not everyone who is able to read the channel necessarily has to be able to understand them. |
| 10:03.29 | Bruners | haste: poke |
| 10:04.24 | ZorbaBeta | legorol, on the other hand, that's not quite the right analogy |
| 10:04.30 | Bruners | Legorol: i get upset |
| 10:04.59 | ZorbaBeta | a better analogy would be a large theater where people walk up to the mic to say things to the entire audience, and a small number of people insist on speaking a language that the majority of the audience doesn't understand |
| 10:05.28 | msoul | if you are recruiting i understand that, but chatting..... |
| 10:05.57 | Cruciformer | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:06.51 | msoul | Aye |
| 10:07.16 | msoul | I mean ask if your native about a quest or whatever but "chatting" |
| 10:07.19 | msoul | anyway.... |
| 10:08.27 | Legorol | ZorbaBeta: all right, let's take your analogy. In said theater, the audience are not all glued do all the talkers either though. |
| 10:08.48 | Legorol | They are going about doing their daily business in the theater, and occasionally listen in to what the speaker has to say, if it's interesting. |
| 10:09.12 | Legorol | Or decide to go up to the mic themselves. It's certainly not the case that everyone is there for the sole purpose of listening to the speaker, sitting there and not doing anything else. |
| 10:09.28 | TopTop18 | You can chat in whatever language you wnat in generalchat, but I think trade channel should remain english |
| 10:09.29 | ZorbaBeta | legorol, but it's the only theater that anyone knows where to find, so if they want to talk to people in general, it's the only game in town. And if too many people talk at once it can become nigh-unusable. |
| 10:09.48 | ZorbaBeta | I'm not saying either position is right, note, just that they're both pretty reasonable. |
| 10:09.58 | Legorol | which in fact increases the reason why you should be able to use your own language: if you want to reach out and find others who share your language, this is the best medium |
| 10:10.04 | Legorol | especially because they may not speak English |
| 10:10.13 | foxlit | So clearly the technical solution is to hire google to transcribe the channel, then filter out the interesting parts. |
| 10:10.22 | Legorol | lol foxlit |
| 10:10.36 | msoul | As i said before, if you're recruiting or trying to find ppl from your own country is fine |
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| 10:10.42 | msoul | but chat like i had sex with her last night |
| 10:10.50 | msoul | fuyck you i don't need to know that nor want to hear it |
| 10:10.54 | TopTop18 | That also shouldn;t be there in english |
| 10:11.04 | Legorol | at the end of the day, I find that people mostly object to non-English speach simply because it frustrates them that there is something being said that they don't understand, even though there is plenty going on in Engish too taht don't make sense to a lot of people |
| 10:11.24 | Legorol | msoul: thank you for proving my point. |
| 10:11.29 | msoul | j |
| 10:11.32 | msoul | pfft |
| 10:11.41 | msoul | Not going to feed you, so i'll stop. |
| 10:11.50 | Legorol | msoul: such speach, if it's not in English, at least you don't know about it. If it's in English, you actually get to understand it, is that better? |
| 10:12.11 | TopTop18 | Didn;t you read the sign? "Do not feed the Legorol" |
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| 10:12.34 | ZorbaBeta | I personally have no idea why Blizzard hasn't made an official chat channel or two yet |
| 10:12.39 | Legorol | anyway, my point was, people talk about all sorts of rubbish in General chat, stuff i have absolutely no clue about and don't understand, so who cares whether it's in English or not? |
| 10:12.50 | Legorol | ZorbaBeta: they have, it's called General |
| 10:12.55 | Legorol | what else do you need? |
| 10:13.04 | TopTop18 | ZorbaBeta, they have, generalchat is official, you can make as much private channels you wnat |
| 10:13.12 | ZorbaBeta | General is too local to be as useful for chatting |
| 10:13.21 | Legorol | ah you mean realm-wide channels |
| 10:13.27 | ZorbaBeta | toptop, private channels aren't official and there's no centralized way to find them |
| 10:13.29 | Legorol | they don't do that because of the load it puts on the realms |
| 10:13.31 | TopTop18 | Would be to spammy |
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| 10:13.39 | ZorbaBeta | so instead we have /2, which is spammy :P |
| 10:13.50 | Legorol | /2 is not realm-wide either |
| 10:13.50 | TopTop18 | A 40 man raid is spammy already, so what will happen with a realm wide channel? |
| 10:14.10 | ZorbaBeta | a city-wide chat channel is what I meant |
| 10:14.20 | TopTop18 | General that is :D |
| 10:14.28 | ZorbaBeta | no, general does not cover all the cities |
| 10:14.33 | ZorbaBeta | general covers a single city |
| 10:14.45 | TopTop18 | Covering a city=city wide? |
| 10:14.46 | Legorol | anyway, an English speaker talking about the intricacies of torch juggling doesn't have any more right to General chat than a Polish speaker looking for other Polish speakers |
| 10:14.49 | ZorbaBeta | (also I don't believe for a second that a realm-wide chat channel would actually be a serious performance issue) |
| 10:14.53 | ZorbaBeta | toptop, cities-wide, then |
| 10:15.35 | TopTop18 | And what city's to include? Only main city's? |
| 10:15.43 | Legorol | ZorbaBeta: I think it will be. Consider that its contents woudl have to be replicated over thousands of players, and the amount of text would be huge due to the amount of people that can contribute. |
| 10:15.51 | ZorbaBeta | toptop, sure. the exact same thing trade includes. |
| 10:16.10 | Legorol | I don't think it'd put the realm servers under strain as such, as it's just text, but the individual connections would be strained. |
| 10:16.11 | ZorbaBeta | restrict trade to actual trading, so we can stop having "trade is for trade gtfo" arguments in it |
| 10:16.12 | TopTop18 | Hmm might be nice to filter spam from trade :D |
| 10:16.15 | sacarasc | Getting the spam off trade would be a good thing. |
| 10:17.07 | Legorol | ZorbaBeta: imagine an addon that everyone has installed, which has a large number of users constantly sending text, with no throttling. |
| 10:17.10 | Legorol | Do you see the problem now? |
| 10:17.43 | ZorbaBeta | legorol, maybe. maybe not. Eve has thousand-player channels, and they're usable. With a little crackdown on spamming, or some automated tools to filter for content, they could be quite useful. It'd be nonzero-cost in terms of design, but it might help community a lot. |
| 10:17.57 | ZorbaBeta | legorol, yeah, the problem is that you haven't throttled the channel in any way. fix that and you're set. |
| 10:18.01 | Legorol | it's not the realms i'm worried about |
| 10:18.05 | Legorol | it's the connections |
| 10:18.33 | ZorbaBeta | man, it's text. people can download text far, far faster than they can possibly read it, and still have 90% of their modem bandwidth free |
| 10:18.59 | ZorbaBeta | it's not a significant clientside bandwidth drain. serverside, perhaps. |
| 10:19.42 | Legorol | I'm amused. You making it sound like as if data communication addons (which usually transmit fairly small amount of data in the form of text) never caused any issues. |
| 10:20.01 | ZorbaBeta | you're making it sound like I think everyone should be throwing gigabytes of data at each other constantly, and I'm not |
| 10:20.16 | Legorol | Unfortunately I have to go now, I'd love to debate the topic but my time is up :( mayheps another day |
| 10:20.28 | ZorbaBeta | yes, you can come up with a worst-case that is easily solvable server-side and could be dealt with clientside as well. I'm not arguing that :P |
| 10:20.47 | ZorbaBeta | but with that logic I can prove that WoW itself is impossible, so, I mean, worst-cases are just not important. |
| 10:20.53 | TopTop18 | Q: Is it possible to register/use the arguments something passes in lua? Like: 'frame:SetScript("OnMouseDown", function() StartMoving() end)' Then let it register the argument "button" that "OnMouseDown" has to only let the moving start when say rightmousebutton is used |
| 10:21.31 | ZorbaBeta | toptop, you can just take the parameter inside your function |
| 10:21.59 | ZorbaBeta | (psuedocode, probably does not work, check your docs for the actual parameters) frame:SetScript("OnMouseDown", function(button) if button == "right" then StartMoving() end end) |
| 10:22.21 | ZorbaBeta | there's no formal way to register a function/argument pair, but you can just test for the button in your function and bam you're done |
| 10:23.17 | TopTop18 | Okay, don;t you ahve to register the first thingy to? Cause "OnMouseDown" has two argument, frame and button |
| 10:23.34 | ZorbaBeta | okay, function(frame, button) then ;) |
| 10:23.40 | ZorbaBeta | (you can just ignore the frame if you don't care about it) |
| 10:23.53 | TopTop18 | But you gotta register it? |
| 10:24.04 | Gnarfoz | will 'dmesg' style stuff that originated from during the initrd phase show up in regular 'dmesg'? |
| 10:24.24 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:25.32 | TopTop18 | Okay thanks ZorbaBeta, gonna test if it works":D |
| 10:25.34 | ZorbaBeta | you gotta register a function. the function is passed parameters. what you do with the parameters is your business - if you don't put them in the function declaration, they'll just be ignored. |
| 10:26.06 | TopTop18 | Okay :D |
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| 10:30.17 | TopTop18 | It works :D Thanks ZorbaBeta! Now I gotta find a way to let my minimap button only draggable around the minimap :S |
| 10:30.18 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/148245127 |
| 10:30.23 | haste | Bruners: poke |
| 10:30.27 | ZorbaBeta | np :) |
| 10:34.35 | Adys | http://derrenbrownart.com/blog/2009/07/warcraft/ |
| 10:34.53 | Adys | your regular "WoW is an addiction" post with the most hilarious statement at the end |
| 10:35.34 | Adys | Short version: "Warcraft is like cocaine. Reduce the monthly fee so therapists can help players." |
| 10:35.56 | Wobin | dear god: http://derrenbrownart.com/blog/2009/07/woman-delivers-stone-baby-60-year-pregnancy/ |
| 10:36.50 | Wobin | Adys: hehe I can see it now: World of Warcraft Now The Most Popular Game With Psychologists |
| 10:37.13 | Adys | this is all a trick to get free epics |
| 10:37.22 | TopTop18 | Lol they just wnat to play WoW to xD |
| 10:37.29 | Adys | DrJ says: July 24, 2009 at 2:12 pm |
| 10:37.29 | Adys | thatâs just like saying that they should reduce the cost of crack so that Drs can relate to the junkies moreâ¦.tsk |
| 10:38.06 | Wobin | Alex Hitchen says: |
| 10:38.06 | Wobin | July 24, 2009 at 4:38 pm |
| 10:38.06 | Wobin | Free access to WoW so he can talk with patients? So first of all he starts playing FOR FREE, then he convinces kids to quit, the first step no doubt giving him all their raid gear that isnât BoP/BoE and money AND suddenly he has no opposition in PvP Ladders and heâs well twinked up. |
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| 10:51.12 | Gnarfoz | right, because there's "non-bop" raid gear, lol |
| 10:51.19 | laeg | things i type in the lfg channel don't appear on my screen but they do on other party memeber's |
| 10:51.27 | laeg | how do i leave and rejoin the channel? |
| 10:51.50 | Gnarfoz | just go into the chat options for that window and make sure the lfg channel is actually set to be displayed |
| 10:53.19 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:56.30 | laeg | Gnarfoz: ty, now it is set to display. i'm curious as to how it became unset because you have to click a few places to unset it |
| 10:56.40 | laeg | not something that could easily be misslicked |
| 10:56.46 | Gnarfoz | not sure, either |
| 10:57.00 | Gnarfoz | but the question comes up regularily |
| 10:57.01 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 10:58.30 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:59.01 | Gnarfoz | eats the trout |
| 10:59.14 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
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| 10:59.45 | Gnarfoz | eats that trout, too |
| 11:00.57 | TopTop18 | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large, poison-filled trout |
| 11:01.51 | Gnarfoz | hands TopTop18's trout to Fisker |
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| 11:11.17 | TopTop18 | Question: I can't find any information on how to make my minimapbutton only draggable around the minimap's edge. Also I can;t make up anything from the addons I use that have minimap buttons. I *think* it has something to do with x and y coods from the minimap's center and sin/cos/tan stuff, but I have no idea how to accomplish it. Any suggestions/usefull guides/stuff? |
| 11:11.23 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:11.49 | Gnarfoz | yum, trout |
| 11:12.25 | jnwhiteh | don't make a minimap button, problem solved! |
| 11:12.28 | jnwhiteh | (and I'm serious) |
| 11:12.28 | foxlit | You *think* correctly. |
| 11:12.50 | Adys | minimap buttons are the taskbar of wow, literally |
| 11:12.52 | Adys | they suck ass |
| 11:13.00 | jnwhiteh | yes, I'm not kidding |
| 11:13.40 | foxlit | The likely answer is that you'll have to reposition the button based on mouse position in OnUpdate rather than just let the user drag it. |
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| 11:14.45 | TopTop18 | I think minimap buttons are very usefull and a great way to enter the configuration, so I wnat to make one :D |
| 11:15.09 | TopTop18 | Foxlit, What? :S |
| 11:15.44 | foxlit | You could probably assume that you know the minimap radius; which means you only need the angle -- and atan2 solves that from x,y offsets. |
| 11:16.35 | Bruners | use the blizzard configuration window and scrap minimap buttons |
| 11:17.13 | Adys | Englies |
| 11:17.25 | Adys | "0 or 1 elements" or "0 or 1 element" ? |
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| 11:17.53 | Wobin | minimap buttons are the herpes of Wow addons |
| 11:18.36 | Wobin | Adys: latter |
| 11:18.50 | Wobin | or "1 or no elements" |
| 11:19.23 | Adys | Are you sure? |
| 11:19.32 | Adys | I'm thinking both could be correct |
| 11:19.48 | Adys | eg. I wouldnt say "None or 1 pretty element" |
| 11:19.52 | Adys | Id pluralize |
| 11:21.01 | Wobin | what's the context? |
| 11:21.30 | Fisker | http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-dies-after-shock-from-electric-pylon-420020.html <-I guess he doesn't need to... CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS, YEAH! |
| 11:21.30 | Adys | dunno, I think it's a list |
| 11:21.30 | Adys | either way element is countable |
| 11:21.45 | Wobin | Fisker: <insert CSI:Miami comic here> |
| 11:22.37 | Aelobin | is there any honor-purchasble weapons? |
| 11:23.02 | foxlit | level 60 ones! |
| 11:23.05 | Aelobin | ^_^ |
| 11:23.15 | foxlit | [I should buy me some -- they look awesome] |
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| 11:27.22 | Wobin | Adys: looks like it's "0 or 1 elements" |
| 11:29.46 | Wobin | actually I have no idea |
| 11:31.06 | foxlit | "not more than 1 element." |
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| 11:31.37 | Adys | that could mean negative, what sort of programmer are you |
| 11:31.56 | foxlit | No, it couldn't. |
| 11:31.57 | Wobin | "One element or no elements" =) |
| 11:31.59 | Adys | >= != || |
| 11:32.16 | Adys | <(o_<(> |
| 11:32.20 | Adys | or something. |
| 11:32.49 | Adys | and yes it could |
| 11:32.54 | Adys | element can be abstract |
| 11:33.02 | foxlit | Only the set of non-negative integers makes sense when you're counting things. |
| 11:33.22 | foxlit | ^ discrete. |
| 11:33.54 | Adys | what the hell is wrong with you |
| 11:34.16 | Adys | I count from -2147483647 up to 0 whenever I count something |
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| 11:34.25 | Adys | I don't know anyone who doesn't |
| 11:34.29 | Wobin | "One element, or, in the single case where no element exists" =P |
| 11:34.53 | Adys | "No element, or less than your mom's elements" |
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| 11:44.41 | Adys | Rofl |
| 11:44.44 | Adys | http://www.conceptispuzzles.com/index.aspx?uri=info/article/313 |
| 11:44.50 | Adys | the popular raft&river game |
| 11:44.55 | Adys | 2. The father can not be left with any of the daughters unless the mother is present. |
| 11:44.56 | Adys | 3. The mother can not be left with any of the sons unless the father is present. |
| 11:45.01 | Adys | Japanese are sick-minded |
| 11:45.41 | Wobin | that was my thoughts too |
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| 12:02.41 | Gnarfoz | funny how this bug is closed, yet the problem seems to still be there, just like 4 years ago... :o\ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=307583 |
| 12:10.37 | Fisker | bangs Gnarfoz |
| 12:13.50 | Aelobin | is there anywhere to view PTR build changes? |
| 12:17.18 | Adys | Aelobin: Which changes? |
| 12:18.00 | Aelobin | whatever changes from build to build :P |
| 12:18.07 | Aelobin | like patch notes but more specific |
| 12:18.13 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/latest |
| 12:18.17 | Adys | patchnotes on mmo-champion |
| 12:18.21 | Adys | or wirebrain |
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| 12:38.35 | cbreak | blizard hates mages :( |
| 12:39.51 | Slafsinator | yeah, they hate certain classes and then they love some of the other classes!! |
| 12:44.42 | harl | sure. |
| 12:44.50 | harl | *laughs* |
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| 13:05.43 | ZorbaBeta | I do feel like warriors and warlocks are currently tied for Most Irritating Game Mechanics :P |
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| 13:16.34 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: its a bug in putty |
| 13:16.43 | Gnarfoz | no... |
| 13:17.00 | Gnarfoz | been over that a hundred times by now :o |
| 13:17.17 | Gnarfoz | other apps do it right and send unicode line drawing chars |
| 13:18.30 | Gnarfoz | damn ancient software |
| 13:18.31 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 13:19.08 | Arrowmaster | right, but only putty shows it as lqqqx stuff, other terminal emulators show it as line drawing characters, not unicode line characters but line characters |
| 13:19.52 | Gnarfoz | because they use handle it according to a non-unicode codepage in parallel, for some reason |
| 13:20.45 | Gnarfoz | I guess "sigh" @ both sides, then |
| 13:20.54 | Gnarfoz | it's not like it's an uncommon occurence |
| 13:20.55 | Gnarfoz | :D |
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| 13:24.09 | bluspacecow | any intel mac users on and have the PTR installed ? |
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| 13:26.32 | Wobin | http://www.divideandkreate.com/mp3/Divide_&_Kreate_-_Counting_rockets.mp3 |
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| 13:47.01 | Wobin | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SqhhJb_P3Kk/Smr300VX0EI/AAAAAAAAINM/h6DYAZThAiU/s1600-h/Zombie+lunchbox.jpg |
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| 14:34.47 | Wobin | oh my god. VuhDo's config.. |
| 14:35.29 | Wobin | has he heard of blending in a UI to match the environment? |
| 14:35.45 | Wobin | http://media.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/7950/14067/Panels_Tooltips.jpg |
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| 14:41.45 | jnwhiteh | hahahahahaha |
| 14:41.52 | jnwhiteh | i mean |
| 14:41.58 | jnwhiteh | clique does not match |
| 14:41.59 | jnwhiteh | but.. |
| 14:42.01 | jnwhiteh | that's BAD |
| 14:42.03 | jnwhiteh | and doesnt' match |
| 14:42.10 | mikma | .. ok |
| 14:42.29 | Kalroth | what the shit |
| 14:43.02 | mikma | jnwhiteh: clique does not match, to what? |
| 14:43.04 | Kalroth | it's like he's taken the worst of Mac OS X and a Firefox theme |
| 14:43.11 | jnwhiteh | the default UI |
| 14:43.36 | mikma | is there any way you can explain about this more? :D |
| 14:44.29 | jnwhiteh | .. |
| 14:44.33 | jnwhiteh | look at the configuration screen for clique |
| 14:44.39 | jnwhiteh | it looks like it's not from WoW |
| 14:44.48 | jnwhiteh | that's what Wobin is talking about |
| 14:45.03 | mikma | oh right |
| 14:45.34 | Wobin | at least Clique uses the same colours =) |
| 14:45.34 | Pneu^ | ive only ever looked at the clique config once, and that was to set it up :o |
| 14:45.53 | mikma | good addons only need one configuration |
| 14:45.54 | mikma | or, 0 |
| 14:46.02 | Wobin | IJW |
| 14:46.12 | mikma | LU2 |
| 14:46.26 | Pneu^ | oh i lie, i changed my clique config once, when the dualspec profile switching feature was added |
| 14:46.31 | Wobin | Yeah, I like U2, they have some cool songs |
| 14:47.07 | mikma | it's a beautiful day |
| 14:47.20 | mikma | lore! lore! need lore! |
| 14:47.42 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=10181 & http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=30115 |
| 14:47.43 | mikma | sisters? |
| 14:48.02 | mikma | She is sisters with Alleria Windrunner and Sylvanas Windrunner. |
| 14:49.22 | Fisker | puts on his mikma glasses |
| 14:53.50 | mikma | haha, you think my glasses would make you look cool, but ... |
| 14:53.58 | mikma | wait, they do make you look cool :( |
| 14:53.59 | mikma | aww poop |
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| 14:59.50 | Wobin | hehe http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson400.html |
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| 15:28.56 | Industrial | any elemental shamans in here? |
| 15:29.13 | Industrial | whats the hit cap for draenei and haste one if there is one |
| 15:29.58 | Nihlo | http://wowlens.com/hitcaprechner.html |
| 15:30.23 | Nihlo | for hit...if there's a haste cap,it's just a soft one anyway^^ |
| 15:30.39 | Shirik | http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson55.html |
| 15:30.44 | Shirik | This is pretty much accurate |
| 15:31.03 | Industrial | 342 rating awsum |
| 15:31.08 | Shirik | I love you for that site Wobin |
| 15:31.15 | Industrial | Nihlo: 1.5sec I guess |
| 15:31.21 | Wobin | shirik: isn't it awesome? =) |
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| 15:31.28 | Cruciformer | Lesson69.html is funny too |
| 15:31.57 | Cruciformer | esp the one for hobo |
| 15:32.16 | Wobin | hehe Jock Support |
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| 15:36.41 | Shirik | omg 70 is right |
| 15:36.46 | Shirik | I should make a robot lawnmower |
| 15:37.04 | Shirik | dangerous though; I would need some kind of kill switch |
| 15:37.20 | Tristanian | why ? :p |
| 15:37.24 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:37.28 | Shirik | ... blades? |
| 15:37.32 | Fisker | this is my hello face |
| 15:38.02 | cogumel0 | is it just me... or is this: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/118571 the exact same thing as this: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/118572 ?? |
| 15:38.41 | cogumel0 | I'm just trying to make sure I don't overlook something that might actually be there for a reason before I go round and change it. |
| 15:38.52 | Shirik | it is |
| 15:38.55 | Shirik | why would you do that |
| 15:38.56 | cogumel0 | but as far as I can see, the whole if else bit is totally useless |
| 15:39.05 | cogumel0 | I'm just changing someone else's code |
| 15:39.16 | Shirik | that seems pretty stupid |
| 15:39.22 | cogumel0 | which is why I was trying to understand what was going through his mind at the time :) |
| 15:39.28 | cogumel0 | I think he meant to say... |
| 15:39.48 | cogumel0 | else bar.value:SetText("") as oppose to else bar.value:SetText(min) |
| 15:40.00 | Shirik | I have a code analysis tool that would tell me "this is worthless" for something like that :) |
| 15:40.07 | Shirik | Though usually it picks up something more reasonable |
| 15:40.14 | cogumel0 | rofl |
| 15:40.29 | Shirik | like "int* foo; foo = new int; if (foo == null) then return E_OUTOFMEMORY;" |
| 15:40.35 | Shirik | s/null/NULL/ |
| 15:41.06 | Shirik | bonus points to anyone who can tell me what is useless in that code and why it's useless |
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| 15:58.37 | Fisker | drops a bowling ball down a steep hill and sees Shirik at the bottom |
| 16:00.34 | Fisker | what are you going to do Shirik ? |
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| 16:07.57 | Shirik | Fisker: a bowling ball cannot hit me |
| 16:08.10 | Shirik | I emit an aura of awesomeness that will repel the ball |
| 16:08.35 | Wobin | I bet the people in the bowling lanes on each side of you hate your guts =( |
| 16:09.14 | Shirik | lol |
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| 16:17.09 | Fisker | There are no bowling lanes on a hill Wobin |
| 16:17.12 | Fisker | oh |
| 16:17.17 | Fisker | for Shirik's aura |
| 16:17.45 | Shirik | Fisker got out-trolled by Wobin o.o |
| 16:23.21 | Fisker | i love you Shirik |
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| 16:25.30 | Iriel | Shirik: What if we stuffed you and a bowling ball into a space that meant you couldn't NOT be in contact with the ball? |
| 16:25.34 | Iriel | Does the universe end? |
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| 16:26.15 | Iriel | Iriel: Shirik: What if we stuffed you and a bowling ball into a space that meant you couldn't NOT be in contact with the ball? |
| 16:26.16 | Iriel | [09:25am] Iriel: Does the universe end? |
| 16:26.24 | Shirik|Ghost | Iriel: One of us would be smushed |
| 16:26.32 | Shirik | I mean, think about it, it's impossible to ever truly be "in contact" with something, simply by the laws of physics |
| 16:26.37 | Shirik | same thing would apply |
| 16:27.07 | Fisker | don't quantum physics me bro |
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| 16:35.06 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, owned: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18570236694&sid=1#12 |
| 16:36.21 | Fisker | I don't get it ScytheBlade1 |
| 16:36.36 | Fisker | The guy just suddenly vanished from the thread after that post |
| 16:36.39 | Fisker | oddly enough |
| 16:38.25 | ZorbaBeta | wow, that is really an impressive owning |
| 16:38.39 | zeheres | ahahah |
| 16:40.35 | Fisker | if only i could post on the US forums |
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| 16:42.24 | Squeese | how do I call a frame I know by name in string? ("ChatFrame"..i):AddMessage ("yo"); of sorts? |
| 16:43.01 | Iriel | _G["ChatFrame"..i]:AddMessage("Yo") |
| 16:43.22 | Squeese | cool, btw.. what is _G ? |
| 16:43.33 | End | think get/setglobal |
| 16:43.33 | Iriel | It's a reference to the default global environment |
| 16:43.35 | End | but it's a table |
| 16:43.44 | End | and it's faster I think |
| 16:43.47 | Iriel | (which is, as End notes, a table) |
| 16:43.52 | Iriel | Yeah, it's much faster than get/setglobal |
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| 16:43.57 | Iriel | since it avoids a function call |
| 16:44.14 | Iriel | and lua table access is very fast |
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| 16:44.36 | jnwhiteh | get/set global are deprecated, anyway |
| 16:44.42 | End | yeah |
| 16:44.56 | End | I think Squeese's code came from get/setglobal though |
| 16:45.02 | Squeese | Seen several addon using _G, never really understood it |
| 16:45.03 | End | and the getglobal got chopped off |
| 16:45.56 | Iriel | We didn't used to have _G (or getfenv, which you can use to obtain the environment) |
| 16:46.32 | Iriel | so there were getglobal and setglobal to achieve the same effect, but they're non-standard and relatively speaking slow, so they're being retired, slowly code is being updated to use _G instead |
| 16:47.36 | Squeese | G_ is part of wow "native" or a product of ace-libraries? |
| 16:47.49 | Iriel | _G is part of lua |
| 16:47.54 | Squeese | oh ok |
| 16:48.00 | Squeese | thx ^^ |
| 16:48.55 | Squeese | One more Q, why do most addon make a local copy of _G? |
| 16:49.04 | Squeese | local _G = _G |
| 16:49.19 | ScytheBlade1 | That isn't a copy |
| 16:49.24 | Squeese | or is it a reference? |
| 16:49.29 | ScytheBlade1 | It finds _G in the global namespace |
| 16:49.46 | ScytheBlade1 | And creates an *local* reference to _G |
| 16:49.49 | Shirik | So nobody ever answered my question |
| 16:49.50 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 |
| 16:49.53 | Shirik | you should know |
| 16:50.00 | Shirik | int* foo; foo = new int; if (foo == null) then return E_OUTOFMEMORY; |
| 16:50.09 | Shirik | What code is uselesss in the above, and why is it useless? |
| 16:50.19 | Squeese | having a local reference of _G makes it faster`? |
| 16:50.23 | Iriel | It theoretically improves performance, since the addon only has to resolve _G in the namespace once |
| 16:50.29 | Squeese | oh ok |
| 16:50.32 | Iriel | locals are resolved at compile time, not at run time |
| 16:50.34 | Shirik | Assume a standards compliant C++ compiler with no random crap like overloading new or something |
| 16:50.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Squeese: yes, that is the idea |
| 16:50.58 | Iriel | Shirik: New throws an exception on failure |
| 16:51.00 | Shirik | int* foo; foo = new int; if (foo == NULL) return E_OUTOFMEMORY; |
| 16:51.05 | Shirik | Iriel wins |
| 16:51.13 | Fisker | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18570236694&sid=1&pageNo=2#34 <-lol good point |
| 16:51.16 | Iriel | That was the obvious answer, but I did go and double-check |
| 16:51.17 | Fisker | To the realm forums! |
| 16:51.20 | Shirik | I found that in a code review yesterday, made me happy I was actually useful ^_^ |
| 16:51.40 | Squeese | so addons that do: addon = libstub(etc...new-ace-addon); local addon = addon |
| 16:51.42 | Iriel | I will note that lots of authors blindly localize things when it doesn't matter |
| 16:51.48 | Squeese | is to improve preformance? |
| 16:52.02 | Shirik | I am one of those authors that blindly localizes things :( |
| 16:52.04 | Shirik | I'm sorry |
| 16:52.24 | Iriel | Squeese: in part, yes, in that case it also guarantees the code consistency |
| 16:52.36 | Iriel | Squeese: if the global 'addon' is changed, that module still sees the one it expects |
| 16:52.56 | Iriel | But as a general rule, if there's a funciton you only ever call once every time a certain key is pressed, dont make it local |
| 16:53.09 | Iriel | on the other hand, if you call it 5,000 times in a loop, local might be a good idea |
| 16:53.56 | Squeese | ok, thx :) |
| 16:54.22 | Squeese | Ok, understood some, but I guess I'll stick to making the addons work for now, rather than worry about preformance :) |
| 16:54.56 | Iriel | AMen 8-) |
| 16:55.01 | Iriel | Premature optimization is evil |
| 16:55.30 | Squeese | ^^ |
| 16:55.52 | Iriel | (Largely because optimization is always a tradeoff against something) |
| 16:56.08 | Iriel | (As opposed to 'writing something efficiently the first time' which is never evil) |
| 16:57.33 | Iriel | wanders AFK |
| 16:57.36 | Shirik | has code that calls math functions thousands of times :( |
| 16:58.52 | ZorbaBeta | iriel, writing something efficiently *is* optimization :) |
| 17:01.05 | Industrial | Nihlo: theres no rotation right? just refresh FS and do LvB,LB in order of preference? |
| 17:01.34 | Industrial | cause I'm only getting meager dps and im all epic :< |
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| 17:06.52 | ZorbaBeta | industrial, that's what my sources say, yep. as long as you've got the flame shock glyph |
| 17:09.01 | Industrial | k |
| 17:10.45 | Shirik | wow |
| 17:10.50 | Shirik | you can type any UPS tracking number into google |
| 17:10.53 | Shirik | and google will take you to the right place |
| 17:16.43 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 17:16.45 | jnwhiteh | same with USPS |
| 17:16.46 | jnwhiteh | etc. |
| 17:17.48 | Shirik | google is taking over the world |
| 17:20.17 | NightHawkTheSane | http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson400.html |
| 17:22.38 | Shirik | so slow |
| 17:22.40 | Shirik | sooooooo slow |
| 17:23.27 | Shirik | (07:59:40) (Wobin) hehe http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson400.html |
| 17:23.36 | Shirik | wobin destroyed you by almost 2 and a half hours |
| 17:23.42 | Shirik | hang your head in shame now |
| 17:24.15 | NightHawkTheSane | ... :( |
| 17:24.28 | NightHawkTheSane | hangs his head in well-rested-from-an-extra-2-hours-sleep-shame |
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| 17:25.26 | Shirik | very good |
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| 17:35.27 | Industrial | howmuch dps do you see http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Vashj&n=Xamth doing? |
| 17:36.37 | Adys | vim guys: how do I jump to a specific column/char? |
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| 17:37.54 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.google.com/search?q=vim+go+to+column |
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| 17:40.26 | Fisker | 0 Industrial |
| 17:41.26 | NightHawkTheSane | wtf is up with that melee totem? o_0 and almost 13% hit.. |
| 17:43.42 | End | melee trinket too |
| 17:44.58 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i saw that, but the stupid amount of hit on it means its -almost- worth it if you need it. But, he has 13% so.... |
| 17:45.05 | Coren{de} | anyone know of any kind of encrypting or hash stuff in WoW Lua or any Lib that implements something like that? |
| 17:45.52 | Dagmar | http://lua-users.org/wiki/LibrariesAndBindings |
| 17:50.11 | Coren{de} | that looks pretty much like (C-)code for someone who compiles the lua engine... which Blizzard does, so that doesn't seem helpful :( |
| 17:50.39 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/43307/arena-points/ http://db.mmo-champion.com/item/honor-points/ http://db.mmo-champion.com/c/12785/sergeant-major-clate/ |
| 17:50.40 | Adys | \o/ |
| 17:50.48 | Adys | Also filterwin: http://db.mmo-champion.com/creatures/?solditem_vendor__arena_rating__gte=2000 |
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| 17:55.51 | Shirik | Coren{de}: There's an RSA implementation, Prism |
| 17:56.03 | Shirik | I'm not quite sure of its limits though |
| 17:56.07 | Shirik | I know it can do signature work |
| 17:56.41 | Coren{de} | Shirik: accessible in WoW? |
| 17:56.49 | Shirik | yes, it was made for wow |
| 17:57.38 | Coren{de} | Neat. :) Thanks. Looking... |
| 17:57.51 | Shirik | I can't find it right now, you may wish to poke foxlit |
| 17:57.54 | Shirik | iirc he wrote it |
| 17:57.58 | Shirik | if not someone like him |
| 17:58.37 | Fisker | drops a grenade in Shirik's pockets |
| 17:58.47 | Fisker | Is that a live grenade in your pants or are you just happy to see me? |
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| 17:59.41 | Coren{de} | yahoo-fu says it's on curseforge :D |
| 18:01.57 | DWSR | Speculations on when 3.2 is coming out? |
| 18:02.05 | Coren{de} | hm. at least it was there once... |
| 18:02.37 | Fisker | not this maintanence but the next one DWSR |
| 18:02.56 | Adys | agrees with Fisker |
| 18:02.59 | DWSR | that's what I'm thinking as well. |
| 18:03.00 | Adys | once in a lifetime |
| 18:03.10 | DWSR | Anyone read the latest QC? |
| 18:03.29 | DWSR | I'm sort of hoping it's 2 maintenances from now, but meh. |
| 18:05.01 | Adys | DWSR: yelling bird one? |
| 18:05.18 | DWSR | Adys: No, the cell phone one. |
| 18:05.36 | Adys | eh? |
| 18:05.43 | Adys | refreshes |
| 18:06.15 | Coren{de} | prism is neither on curse nor on curseforge, I guess the author pulled it... :( |
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| 18:17.26 | Shirik | this is interesting http://howtosplitanatom.com/news/advertising-is-broken/#more-3647 |
| 18:21.42 | Fisker | nah |
| 18:21.44 | Fisker | it has text |
| 18:21.51 | Dagmar | TL;DR |
| 18:22.08 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 18:22.30 | Fisker | you cut my start menu in half Shirik |
| 18:22.49 | Shirik | most interesting things have text |
| 18:22.55 | Dagmar | Actually, I did read it--I just think the author is naive |
| 18:22.57 | Shirik | if you can't comprehend that concept, go back to 4chan |
| 18:23.09 | Dagmar | Advertisers look at _everything_ as an opportunity to sell more |
| 18:23.57 | Dagmar | If they know you're buying product X from brand Y, they won't do anything but try and sell you more products of that brand line |
| 18:24.09 | Fisker | YOU CUT MY START MENU IN HALF |
| 18:24.21 | Shirik | k |
| 18:24.30 | Shirik | Dagmar: Sure |
| 18:24.46 | Shirik | the guy at the photo store when I bought about $5000 in Canon equipment |
| 18:24.55 | Shirik | he turned the Nikon bag inside out (since those were the only bags he had) :) |
| 18:25.02 | Shirik | I didn't ask him to or anything, he just did :P |
| 18:29.49 | Dagmar | heheheh |
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| 18:38.20 | Coren{de} | what the guy suggests would only work if people were honest, but the second something can be sold, people usually stop being honest... how would a consumer know if someone really *is* an expert about some brand or just hired to say he is? |
| 18:39.57 | Dagmar | Exactly |
| 18:40.13 | Dagmar | That would be the other reason that plan of his won't work |
| 18:40.32 | Dagmar | Advertisers can and so shill at every opportunity |
| 18:40.38 | Dagmar | s/so/do/; |
| 18:40.50 | Dagmar | Wow. |
| 18:40.56 | Dagmar | One of my coworkers has lost his mind. |
| 18:41.15 | Coren{de} | Accidently or on purpose? 8) |
| 18:41.33 | Dagmar | He has a history of eating other people's snacks. |
| 18:42.08 | Dagmar | I've been off for the last two days, and apparently at some point he ate a box of SweeTarts that was in my rollaway |
| 18:42.15 | Dagmar | Big mistake. |
| 18:42.43 | Dagmar | Effing around with my sugar and/or caffiene stashes is not smart. |
| 18:43.12 | Dagmar | Now I've got to select something I can taint some other candy with that'll be either hard for the med center to figure out or at least plausibly deniable |
| 18:43.24 | Coren{de} | That sounds kinda weird. I mean... if he did that once, ok, apologize, move on. But "a history" of doing that? wtf?! |
| 18:43.36 | Dagmar | Yeah I'm going to break him of it |
| 18:44.02 | Dagmar | Ya don't take candy from little kids because it's mean. |
| 18:44.10 | Dagmar | ...and you don't take candy from me because *I'M* mean. |
| 18:44.41 | Fisker | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/dcb51b9b06d21c4505f01e2cf5669764.png <-my awesome wallpaper |
| 18:45.33 | Bruners | Fisker: NICE! |
| 18:46.03 | Fisker | yeah |
| 18:46.05 | Fisker | that's what i said |
| 18:46.12 | Adys | SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME |
| 18:46.15 | Adys | MY COMPUTER IS ALIVE |
| 18:46.20 | Adys | im trapped. |
| 18:46.34 | Adys | I completely uninstalled firefox three fucking days ago |
| 18:46.35 | laeg | mod to stop level 1 gold sellers spamming me? |
| 18:47.09 | Fisker | ICBM missiles with a range of 40000 km |
| 18:47.14 | Fisker | and nuclear warheads |
| 18:47.29 | Adys | http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=mod+to+stop+level+1+gold+sellers+spamming+me%3F |
| 18:47.35 | Adys | second result: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8736-BadBoyAntiSpamAutomaticReporter.html |
| 18:47.47 | Fisker | Was the first result nuclear warheads? |
| 18:47.53 | Adys | dude |
| 18:47.59 | Adys | shut it I got bigger problems here |
| 18:48.02 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/what%20the%20flying%20fucking%20flyfuck.png |
| 18:48.12 | Adys | its completely bloody impossible |
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| 18:48.36 | Adys | i feel like one of those movie assassins haunted by the spirit of someone they killed |
| 18:48.37 | Dagmar | Heheh |
| 18:48.40 | Coren{de} | doesn't look very uninstalled... :> |
| 18:48.52 | Adys | not even a trace |
| 18:49.03 | Adys | there is NOTHING with the word "firefox" in its name on my computer |
| 18:49.06 | NightHawkTheSane | well, clearly there's a TRACE |
| 18:49.13 | Dagmar | So kill the process |
| 18:49.21 | Adys | i killed it |
| 18:49.26 | Coren{de} | can't you lookup the commandline of the process? |
| 18:49.28 | laeg | restart |
| 18:49.39 | Adys | i restarted 3 times since i uninstalled it |
| 18:49.43 | Bruners | Fisker: i use this one http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/img24.jpg |
| 18:49.45 | laeg | make sure it's not in the registry to load on boot |
| 18:49.57 | Adys | i dont have a registry. |
| 18:49.58 | Fisker | horrible Bruners |
| 18:50.01 | laeg | sure you do |
| 18:50.05 | Coren{de} | do Macs have a registry? 8) |
| 18:50.07 | Adys | well not for bootloads anyway |
| 18:50.09 | laeg | regedit in the run command |
| 18:50.17 | laeg | but it's there every time you boot? |
| 18:50.25 | laeg | check regedit. |
| 18:50.42 | Adys | (look at the program list) |
| 18:50.45 | Coren{de} | laeg, his computer looks not ms windowsy, so... |
| 18:50.58 | Dagmar | Zombies! |
| 18:51.00 | Dagmar | eek! |
| 18:51.10 | laeg | has darwin got a session manager? |
| 18:51.36 | Adys | this isn't mac os, and no the bootloads are in ~/.kde and theres nothing called firefox |
| 18:51.45 | laeg | not windows, not mac os |
| 18:51.51 | laeg | ahh linux, like me |
| 18:51.57 | Dagmar | laeg: Which means it's outside your ken |
| 18:51.57 | Aelobin | reckon there will be another PvP set released before next expansion? :/ |
| 18:51.59 | laeg | checked your session manager? |
| 18:52.01 | Aelobin | not counting furious ofc |
| 18:52.05 | laeg | Dagmar: o rly? |
| 18:52.13 | Dagmar | If you couldn't tell from looking at that? Yes. |
| 18:52.19 | Adys | there is no session manager |
| 18:52.20 | mikma | [21:52:06] This seems to be an older version of Big Wigs. It is recommended that you upgrade before entering into combat with a boss. |
| 18:52.23 | Bruners | Fisker: lies! you like it |
| 18:52.27 | laeg | from looking at .kde - that's how i did tell |
| 18:52.49 | Fisker | naw Bruners |
| 18:52.50 | Fisker | NAW |
| 18:54.00 | laeg | Adys: how are you using chatzilla if firefox is uninstalled? |
| 18:54.17 | Adys | wtf are you talking about? |
| 18:54.31 | Dagmar | ùíù CTCP VERSION reply from Adys: xchat 2.8.6 Ubuntu |
| 18:54.49 | laeg | 19:53 CTCP VERSION reply from Aelobin: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215] |
| 18:54.52 | laeg | ...? |
| 18:54.58 | laeg | whoops |
| 18:55.01 | laeg | :) |
| 18:55.03 | Aelobin | wut 0.o |
| 18:55.28 | laeg | Adys: ask in #mozilla or on irc.mozilla.org |
| 18:55.49 | Dagmar | I'm sure they could use a giggle |
| 18:55.54 | Adys | this is comically bad |
| 18:56.00 | Bruners | nobody has joined my wowmatrix channel yet :( |
| 18:56.01 | Dagmar | What's so bad? |
| 18:56.26 | Adys | firefox is haunting me |
| 18:56.26 | Adys | thats whats bad |
| 18:56.29 | Bruners | almost two months no |
| 18:56.32 | Bruners | w |
| 18:56.34 | Adys | why cant i get haunted by hot scottish girls from the 1700s like everyone else |
| 18:56.36 | Aelobin | slaps Fisker |
| 18:56.47 | Dagmar | killall -9 firefox |
| 18:56.56 | Dagmar | ...or firefox-bin |
| 18:57.00 | Fisker | why so srs Aelobin ? |
| 18:57.10 | Aelobin | *shrug* |
| 18:57.14 | Adys | Dagmar: you think i didnt do that :P |
| 18:57.19 | Aelobin | just slapping you, wouldn't want to act out of the norm |
| 18:57.20 | Adys | brb |
| 18:57.34 | Dagmar | Adys: I've no idea what you did or didn't do since it seems like you can't kill a simple process, man |
| 18:58.03 | Dagmar | You have some zombies lying around from Chromium tho, which is probably what's blocking it in some way |
| 18:58.26 | Adys | thats normal |
| 18:58.48 | Adys | altho i have nfc why there's a chromium-browse process owned by root |
| 18:58.50 | Dagmar | It's normal for chromium to generate zombies or is your process browsing tool misinterpreting thing? |
| 18:59.05 | Adys | its normal for it to generate zombies |
| 18:59.10 | Dagmar | It forked and then died |
| 18:59.14 | Dagmar | Wow that's sad |
| 18:59.25 | Coren{de} | with just 28k it is likely just some tiny helper that rewrites its name before failing to start the actual ff binary that you deinstalled... |
| 19:00.01 | Dagmar | Zombies aren't supposed to happen under normal circumstances |
| 19:00.11 | Dagmar | It means some process has output waiting in a pipe before it can die |
| 19:00.12 | Adys | *shrugs* |
| 19:00.35 | Adys | just ran a full upgrade. brb |
| 19:00.45 | Dagmar | Chromium is likely trying to do something fancy that it's failing at and winding up being a child of init as a result |
| 19:01.57 | Dagmar | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=9401 |
| 19:02.04 | Dagmar | You're not the only person seeing it screw up apparently |
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| 19:03.49 | DWSR | someone want to do me a huge favour? |
| 19:04.40 | DWSR | It's not a big deal, but can someone take http://is.gd/1MnWv and make the background transparent? |
| 19:05.43 | Dagmar | You don't have the source art for that? |
| 19:05.49 | DWSR | Not my icon. |
| 19:05.59 | DWSR | And I can't install any img editing tools on this space. |
| 19:06.06 | DWSR | s/space/workspace/ |
| 19:06.30 | Dagmar | There's a final outline that's semi-transparent and shows the crosshatchery through it |
| 19:06.40 | DWSR | Yes |
| 19:06.41 | Cairenn | is the image copyright? |
| 19:06.47 | DWSR | I want you to make it properly transparent. |
| 19:07.00 | Dagmar | Why not just ask the author for the SVG file? |
| 19:07.12 | Dagmar | They've got a bit of it they need to fix anyway |
| 19:07.12 | DWSR | Ack, good point. |
| 19:07.27 | DWSR | Cairenn: I can edit the file, or so says the site it's on. |
| 19:08.16 | DWSR | Dagmar: Because I don't know the author and found this image through a google search? Really, it's taken you longer to sit here and ask for alternatives than it would to just open GIMP/PS/<insert tool here> and make it transparent. |
| 19:08.37 | Dagmar | Well, good luck getting help by demanding it |
| 19:08.59 | Dagmar | It's not going to be as bloody simple as you'd like to think to FIX THAT SEMI-TRANSPARENT CROSSHATCHING. |
| 19:09.15 | Dagmar | Far freaking easier to just go find out whose SVG it is and ask for it |
| 19:09.15 | DWSR | Why not? Magic selection tool in PS will do it in about 5 seconds. |
| 19:09.23 | Dagmar | Otherwise, IMAGES ARE NOT ALWAYS FREE M'KAY |
| 19:09.31 | Dagmar | No, it won't |
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| 19:10.35 | DWSR | Just hold shift and click a bunch of times. I've done it to another icon with a similar problem, and it just selected everything. |
| 19:11.10 | Dagmar | Here's a better idea |
| 19:11.14 | Dagmar | L2GOOGLE |
| 19:11.15 | Dagmar | http://lib.sparanoid.com/download/world-of-warcraft.png |
| 19:11.18 | Dagmar | Sheesh |
| 19:11.42 | Dagmar | You're wrong about how that tool works |
| 19:11.55 | Dagmar | It will *not* remove the crosshatching that is *now a part* of the semi-transparent sections. |
| 19:12.23 | DWSR | No, the automatic selection tool will just select everything similar. |
| 19:12.49 | Dagmar | So you realize now you're wrong |
| 19:12.51 | Dagmar | Great |
| 19:12.59 | DWSR | Uhh...? |
| 19:13.06 | DWSR | DWSR: Just hold shift and click a bunch of times. I've done it to another icon with a similar problem, and it just selected everything. |
| 19:13.11 | DWSR | I never said it deleted everything. |
| 19:13.54 | Dagmar | It will not remove the crosshatching that is part of the areas that were semi-transparent when some tool (and I don't mean GUI) converted it to a flattened format with fake crosshatchery under it |
| 19:14.19 | Dagmar | Someone would have to slice out that area and redraw part of it manually, being sure to get the exact same radius as before |
| 19:14.23 | DWSR | You're right, I'm wrong? Happy. Cairenn's already provided me with a fixed copy. |
| 19:14.31 | DWSR | So drop it. |
| 19:14.40 | Cairenn | enough, both of you :) |
| 19:14.48 | Dagmar | You didn't happen to notice the OMGxWTF sized one I just linked? |
| 19:15.19 | DWSR | Dagmar: Don't need OMGxWTF sized ones, mkay? :P |
| 19:15.24 | Cairenn | seriously |
| 19:15.25 | Cairenn | stop |
| 19:15.38 | Coren{de} | ./popcorn |
| 19:16.46 | Dagmar | If I'd have known it was going to be this much trouble I would have gone ahead and converted it to three minute animated gif with a wang at the end |
| 19:17.11 | DWSR | SWEET. |
| 19:17.20 | DWSR | Too bad ICOs can't be animated in windows. |
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| 19:20.00 | DWSR | ok, wow. |
| 19:20.17 | DWSR | Apparently Vista can't figure out if there's icons larger than 32x32 in an ICO |
| 19:20.26 | DWSR | or this conversion tool sucks. |
| 19:21.00 | Coren{de} | maybe the ico format has just 4 bits for size? :) |
| 19:21.21 | Coren{de} | 5* |
| 19:21.25 | Dagmar | The conversion tool probably sucks because icons definitely come in larger than 32x32 size |
| 19:21.31 | DWSR | indeed |
| 19:21.38 | Dagmar | Burn that sucker |
| 19:22.19 | DWSR | It's an online tool |
| 19:23.44 | DWSR | Cairenn: Can you make it a PNG instead? |
| 19:23.55 | DWSR | Sorry to be picky. |
| 19:24.07 | Coren{de} | the one dagmar linked was a png... |
| 19:24.23 | DWSR | /scrollup |
| 19:24.31 | DWSR | Heh, so it is. |
| 19:24.47 | DWSR | God, why is this so farking difficult? |
| 19:24.55 | DWSR | It would be really nice if Windows just supported SVG for icons. |
| 19:25.30 | Shirik | time to go out, bbl |
| 19:25.33 | DWSR | later |
| 19:25.52 | Dagmar | I'm seeing how well Gimp's ico output works |
| 19:26.12 | Coren{de} | SVG is an open format, isn't it? answer is probably the same why the ms "open" office format isn't using SVG... |
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| 19:27.07 | Dagmar | Likely so |
| 19:27.33 | DWSR | muchly. |
| 19:27.33 | Dagmar | OKay, so clearly I can't get away with just saying the OMGxWTF file as ico and have Gimp downsample it so Windows can deal |
| 19:29.10 | DWSR | GAH |
| 19:29.14 | DWSR | ONLINE TOOL DIAF |
| 19:29.23 | Dagmar | Lemme see what the heck magic thing you're supposed to do with the layers dialog for this |
| 19:29.38 | DWSR | I got the tool to do it, but it added a white background to a transparent PNG. WTF? |
| 19:29.48 | DWSR | ICOs support transparency, bitch please. |
| 19:29.52 | Dagmar | It flattened it on ya |
| 19:31.02 | Thunder_Child | mikma, ping |
| 19:31.11 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: That's a script, innit? |
| 19:31.17 | Dagmar | Ah-hah... OO.org's icons will work |
| 19:31.23 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, what is? |
| 19:31.35 | DWSR | Coming back from away and pinging amkim? |
| 19:31.45 | DWSR | Typing names backwards to avoid accidental highlight. |
| 19:31.58 | mikma | thunder_child: hai! |
| 19:32.05 | Thunder_Child | coming back from away is a script, but i wanted to ping mikma |
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| 19:32.20 | DWSR | ah, I see. |
| 19:32.31 | DWSR | Is it auto-cancel away on activity? |
| 19:32.37 | Thunder_Child | mikma, please tell me there is a way not to have that stuff pop up for yourself? |
| 19:32.43 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, yep |
| 19:32.45 | mikma | thunder_child: that's test mode :) |
| 19:32.51 | mikma | thunder_child: that stuff won't be displayed |
| 19:32.57 | Thunder_Child | ah, ok |
| 19:33.15 | mikma | you know, you might want to test the addon to see the messages, so i added a test mode in :) |
| 19:33.27 | mikma | thunder_child: also, suppressing messages is now in too |
| 19:33.48 | DWSR | Dagmar: You want an SVG that you acn convert |
| 19:33.54 | Thunder_Child | mikma, though i thought you were getting rid of the names, so why not do something like <player>: <icon> Can't use <icon> (time) |
| 19:33.58 | DWSR | Dagmar: I just want an icon with transparency that's 32x32 and works with vista. |
| 19:34.03 | DWSR | It's so simple, FUCK YOU VISTA. |
| 19:34.09 | Dagmar | Workin' on it. Gimme about three more minutes |
| 19:34.22 | Dagmar | This takes a bit of clicking to deal with the multi-layer nature of icos |
| 19:34.31 | mikma | thunder_child: spellnames have been removed, yes. |
| 19:34.50 | Thunder_Child | mikma, since that last ss? |
| 19:36.12 | mikma | thunder_child: can't remember what i did show you, but i uploaded a new one.. http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072509_185225.jpg |
| 19:36.26 | Thunder_Child | mikma, you showed me http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072409_193603.jpg |
| 19:36.51 | Thunder_Child | mikma, ya see, the last line, why isnt in an icon instead of 'Ice Block' |
| 19:36.55 | DWSR | mikma: Your target frame says your health level is OVER 9000! |
| 19:37.16 | mikma | thunder_child: that one shows you the name has been removed from spells that have multiple targets (heroism, grounding totem..) |
| 19:37.53 | Fisker | your addon is invalid mikma |
| 19:38.01 | mikma | fisker: your mom is invalid |
| 19:38.05 | Fisker | yes |
| 19:38.20 | Thunder_Child | mikma, that makes no sense |
| 19:38.48 | DWSR | btw, old but still funny, http://is.gd/1MqoK |
| 19:39.32 | mikma | thunder_child: what makes no sense? removing targetname from buffs that have "AoE" |
| 19:40.59 | Dagmar | DWSR: Okay. Got it. Lemme punt it somewhere you can reach it |
| 19:41.00 | Thunder_Child | mikma, the last line says Ma: <icon> Can't Ice Block (time). why does it not say Ma: <icon> Can't <icon> (time) |
| 19:41.15 | DWSR | Dagmar: mediafire, sendspace |
| 19:41.53 | Dagmar | http://pawsforconcern.org/world-of-warcraft.ico |
| 19:42.01 | Dagmar | Easier to just click on something I already had in WinSCP |
| 19:42.15 | DWSR | No idea if you have a webhost or not :0 |
| 19:42.22 | Dagmar | That has the image in every rational size between 128x128 and 16x16 |
| 19:42.32 | mikma | thunder_child: cause i would have to add the spell icon in manually |
| 19:42.47 | Thunder_Child | mikma, but you can do it for the other ones... |
| 19:43.07 | Dagmar | 128, 96, 64, 56, 48, 32, 24 & 16 |
| 19:43.13 | mikma | thunder_child: other ones get the icon with GetSpellInfo |
| 19:43.48 | DWSR | Dagmar: But I wanted OMG and WTF sizes :) |
| 19:43.57 | Thunder_Child | mikma, what triggers the message then? |
| 19:44.00 | Dagmar | Windows doesn't like that size apparently. :) |
| 19:44.14 | Dagmar | I already tried that here--Windows doesn't believe it's an ico file. :) |
| 19:44.16 | mikma | thunder_child: UnitAura(unit,spell) |
| 19:44.34 | DWSR | Dagmar: Indeed. |
| 19:44.54 | Dagmar | I don't think Vista will even use the 128x128 version unless you enable "Old, Blind People Mode" |
| 19:45.23 | Thunder_Child | mikma, well you could, you could trigger it off the debuff |
| 19:45.30 | DWSR | I've got shmexy icon mode enabled. |
| 19:45.39 | DWSR | for every icon on my desktop, I find at least a 64x64 version somewhere. |
| 19:45.43 | Thunder_Child | mikma, since there isnt anything else that triggers that debuff afaik |
| 19:45.54 | mikma | thunder_child: i can add the icons there manually too if needed :) |
| 19:46.21 | DWSR | mikma: Making some scrolling text combat thingy? |
| 19:46.27 | DWSR | And yes, that's a technical term. |
| 19:46.38 | Thunder_Child | well your the one that wanted to get rid of all of the names |
| 19:46.40 | mikma | dwsr: no actually, this is a PvP Spell Alert |
| 19:46.50 | mikma | thunder_child: yeah, true that. |
| 19:48.23 | DWSR | Dagmar: Thank you muchly, it works finally. |
| 19:50.32 | Thunder_Child | mikma, is it possible to get a ss in arena, or do i need to go do that? |
| 19:50.47 | DWSR | No. |
| 19:50.51 | mikma | thunder_child: haven't had a chance to take a SS from arena |
| 19:50.56 | DWSR | SS is not usable in arena. |
| 19:51.15 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, i use an external program |
| 19:51.23 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: Oh, Screenshot. |
| 19:51.28 | DWSR | Sorry, thought you meant Soulstone. |
| 19:51.37 | Thunder_Child | ~lart DWSR |
| 19:51.37 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on DWSR and turns DWSR into a brick |
| 19:51.39 | DWSR | You can ScrShot in arena. |
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| 20:22.52 | Iriel | ZorbaBeta: (Unidling briefly) -- While you can indeed consider re-writing something to be more efficient as an optimization, I tend to look at "pure optimization" as making trade-offs in order to achieve better performance under expected conditions - for example using lookup tables (spending memory) to save CPU time, etc. |
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| 20:36.12 | Bruners | haste: bok |
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| 20:45.03 | alestane | What's the target level for regular Violet Hold? |
| 20:45.35 | tekkub | like 74-76 I think |
| 20:46.30 | alestane | Thanks. |
| 20:47.20 | tekkub | http://www.wowwiki.com/Violet_Hold |
| 20:47.23 | tekkub | 75-77 |
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| 20:47.34 | alestane | Perfect, I'm 76. |
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| 21:13.34 | Dagmar | Hey is there any way we could possibly get a link to the Super Mario Brothers instructions of WoW sticked in General? |
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| 21:14.33 | mikma | thunder_child: http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072609_001353.jpg |
| 21:16.29 | Dagmar | You might wanna put a hook in there for Sapphiron's ice blocks. ;) |
| 21:16.53 | Dagmar | You know, a little something that lets them know that while they might be able to break out of it, that it's not something they want to do out of reflex. |
| 21:18.09 | Fisker | i need 7600.16385.090713-1255_x64fre_cliente_en-us_Retail_UltimateE-GRMCEULXFRER_EN_DVD.iso QQ |
| 21:18.39 | Bruners | Fisker: why? |
| 21:19.26 | Fisker | because that's the european E version |
| 21:19.44 | Bruners | and you need it why? |
| 21:21.30 | Fisker | because that's the european E version |
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| 21:25.42 | Fisker | won |
| 21:25.50 | Cairenn | chuckle @ http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=127496964413&h=peWQU&u=WgLW_ |
| 21:25.52 | Bruners | Fisker: why not the N version ? |
| 21:26.25 | Fisker | because it sucks |
| 21:26.25 | kaiden | haha cairenn |
| 21:26.26 | kaiden | nice |
| 21:27.50 | Fisker | i'm bored |
| 21:29.05 | Stanzilla | Fisker: I only have 7600.16385.090713-1255_x64fre_client_en-us_Retail_Ultimate-GRMCULXFRER_EN_DVD.iso |
| 21:29.07 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 21:29.17 | Corrodias | the first comment says "homeboy should have gotten the error code. this could very well just be bad hardware.", but that's really the point: bad hardware or drivers are about the only way to make XP with service packs crash, and probably vista as well |
| 21:29.30 | Corrodias | -about- the only way. i'm sure there are others, though i don't know them |
| 21:29.33 | kaiden | i'm waiting til the 5th and it'll be up on msdn |
| 21:29.34 | kaiden | yay |
| 21:29.36 | Fisker | i have that as well Stanzilla |
| 21:29.57 | Cairenn | thanks goes to Sargeras, he's the one that linked it to me (via FB) |
| 21:30.13 | Thunder_Child | mikma, do you like it better? |
| 21:32.05 | mikma | thunder_child: if that is descriptive enough, then yes ^^ |
| 21:32.12 | mikma | will need to see it in use |
| 21:32.18 | Thunder_Child | mika you also have a layout option of http://wowuidev.pastey.net/118592 |
| 21:33.02 | mikma | it was "Multiple: [x] description" |
| 21:33.30 | mikma | but then i thought that the multiple is pretty useless there cause the spells listed have huge range |
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| 21:33.47 | Thunder_Child | are we talking about the same thing? |
| 21:34.28 | mikma | i think you mean ie. heroism with that layout |
| 21:34.47 | Thunder_Child | no, even for the one you just posted |
| 21:35.25 | Thunder_Child | if you notice they are all for the same person, you have the option of just puting the name as a header and listing everything underneath |
| 21:35.27 | Bruners | Fisker: i dont see a reason to not have internet exploder on your computer, you can just disable it |
| 21:35.32 | mikma | so you mean display target name once and rest are descriptions |
| 21:35.41 | Thunder_Child | thats a possiblity |
| 21:35.47 | mikma | thunder_child: dunno how to do that yet |
| 21:35.50 | mikma | kinda nice |
| 21:35.54 | Thunder_Child | i dunno if that would be confusing or not |
| 21:37.07 | Thunder_Child | mikma, i guess it depends on how the info is listed, if there are multiple people will it throw it up there fcfs or will it group the effect by people? |
| 21:37.15 | Fisker | Bruners same here |
| 21:37.19 | Fisker | but i has no choice baw |
| 21:37.36 | Fisker | plants a bomb on mikma's back |
| 21:37.38 | mikma | thunder_child: only heroism and grounding totem are suppressed |
| 21:37.57 | mikma | thunder_child: i removed all kind of useless info, like, pw:s and ice barrier, since they dont stop you |
| 21:38.10 | Thunder_Child | mikma, but they can be dispelled |
| 21:39.05 | Fisker | watches mikma blow up |
| 21:39.27 | mikma | thunder_child: i know they can, but it's useless information for most of the classes |
| 21:40.48 | Thunder_Child | mikma, hence my comment about intelligent displays |
| 21:41.12 | mikma | thunder_child: the thing is, intelligent displays require alot more work and more crap in the spell datatable :I |
| 21:41.37 | mikma | mages can spellsteal lots of buffs |
| 21:41.43 | mikma | priest can dispel bubble and iceblock |
| 21:41.52 | jnwhiteh | it's not about giving everyone all the information they need |
| 21:41.53 | mikma | warrior can use shattering throw to break those two spells |
| 21:42.04 | jnwhiteh | but its'a bout giving an arena team a good overall snapshot of the pvp situation at a given moment |
| 21:42.22 | Bruners | Fisker: no choice? |
| 21:42.23 | mikma | jnwhiteh: i did actually remove all the "breakable shields" from spelltable |
| 21:42.30 | mikma | i left couple of exceptions there tho |
| 21:42.31 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 21:42.36 | jnwhiteh | i don't care all that much |
| 21:42.40 | mikma | since, even if they have the spells on |
| 21:42.41 | Fisker | i r european Bruners |
| 21:42.46 | mikma | they are still going to be nuked like hell |
| 21:42.53 | mikma | = doesn't change anything |
| 21:43.00 | Bruners | Fisker: so r i |
| 21:43.06 | Bruners | Fisker: or wait, im Norwegian |
| 21:43.44 | Fisker | you're still gonna get Windows 7 E or N |
| 21:44.04 | Bruners | Fisker: doesnt stop you from buying a english version from somewhere, and then install a language pack if you want stupid translations |
| 21:45.15 | Fisker | but it would be way more expensive duh |
| 21:49.39 | Fisker | only retards want localized windows anyways |
| 21:49.40 | Fisker | btw |
| 21:49.53 | Fisker | o/o jnwhiteh |
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| 21:50.55 | Bruners | Fisker: i hate helping people with a localized windows |
| 21:51.11 | Fisker | so do i |
| 21:51.42 | Fisker | The worst thing is you can't have a clue unless you're actually sitting with a localized version |
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| 22:00.55 | Fisker | sleeps with Bruners' mom |
| 22:11.18 | Thunder_Child | epic win http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqpAiq6RJhs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftheawesomer.com%2F&feature=player_embedded |
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| 22:13.22 | Fisker | http://z6gw6skubmo2pj43.tor2web.com/ <-in b4 tor gets shut down |
| 22:14.25 | Thunder_Child | Fisker, it's owned by the governemt |
| 22:14.33 | Thunder_Child | government* |
| 22:15.12 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 22:15.32 | Thunder_Child | disagree all you want |
| 22:16.14 | Fisker | i will |
| 22:16.48 | Fisker | But only because you're wrong |
| 22:18.20 | sacarasc | Fisker is gonna get stung by the CIA. |
| 22:18.23 | ccox | when will content owners come to grips with reality? |
| 22:18.33 | Thunder_Child | sacarasc, FBI avtually |
| 22:18.35 | Thunder_Child | actually* |
| 22:18.50 | sacarasc | He's not in the US, the FBI don't have jurisdiction. |
| 22:19.00 | Thunder_Child | neither does the CIA |
| 22:19.13 | sacarasc | They have more than the FBI. |
| 22:19.22 | sacarasc | Or they'll just send an assassin. |
| 22:19.26 | sacarasc | Called Monica. |
| 22:19.27 | Thunder_Child | nope, the FBI works with interpol more than CIA iirc |
| 22:19.41 | sacarasc | First she will seduce him, then slit his throat. |
| 22:19.54 | Fisker | Noone can do shit |
| 22:20.54 | nicoli_s | fisker, wheres some more tidbits of sc2 info |
| 22:21.15 | Fisker | sc2 is the new duke |
| 22:21.22 | Fisker | except DNF will be finished eventually |
| 22:21.43 | nicoli_s | damnit fisker, you knew i meant actual info |
| 22:22.17 | Fisker | we're totally screwed |
| 22:22.21 | Fisker | SC2 won't come out |
| 22:22.22 | Fisker | ever |
| 22:23.14 | Fisker | lots of singleplayer info on the 17th presumably though |
| 22:23.23 | Fisker | want moar campaign videos |
| 22:23.46 | Fisker | and by that i don't mean gameplay |
| 22:24.21 | ScytheBlade1 | orly @ single player info |
| 22:24.32 | nicoli_s | but still no beta to play around with :( |
| 22:24.40 | Fisker | yarly ScytheBlade1 |
| 22:25.04 | Fisker | Some polish dudes aired an interview from the june event |
| 22:25.15 | Fisker | Where they said they would like the press back in july for a singleplayer preview |
| 22:25.30 | Fisker | Because they were pretty much done with that now |
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| 22:57.28 | Thunder_Child | no Fisker, watching the cinematics beforehand spoils the fun |
| 22:58.05 | ScytheBlade1 | epic @ mostly done with single player |
| 22:58.15 | ScytheBlade1 | tbh I am VERY excited for the single player |
| 22:58.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Argubably more so than the multi |
| 22:58.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Only spelled right |
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| 23:00.35 | Fisker | i'm scared ScytheBlade1 |
| 23:00.50 | Fisker | Thunder_Child i wasn't talking about cinematics |
| 23:01.00 | Fisker | I was talking about the whole interface they use outside |
| 23:01.03 | Fisker | need to see moar of it |
| 23:01.10 | Fisker | plus stuff like achievements etc. |
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| 23:01.46 | Fisker | weird |
| 23:01.50 | Fisker | aero won't turn back on |
| 23:01.59 | Fisker | brb |
| 23:02.37 | Fisker | fail |
| 23:02.41 | Fisker | ran the aero troubleshooter |
| 23:02.53 | Fisker | and the moment it was started aero turned back on and it said it couldn't find any issues |
| 23:02.56 | Fisker | playing me for a fool eh? |
| 23:04.34 | Thunder_Child | Fisker, really? there are going to be achivements? |
| 23:05.30 | Fisker | durr |
| 23:06.24 | Thunder_Child | it's gaming ~ of twitter |
| 23:07.13 | Thunder_Child | and it's starting to piss me off |
| 23:09.51 | Fisker | i'd also like to see their challenges |
| 23:10.47 | Thunder_Child | challenges? like, "do this level with none of the xx unit"? |
| 23:11.57 | Fisker | no |
| 23:12.00 | Fisker | L2P maps |
| 23:12.02 | Fisker | basically |
| 23:12.40 | Thunder_Child | ya, you lost me |
| 23:12.57 | Fisker | how do i shot muta micro etc. |
| 23:13.41 | Fisker | and if you still don't get it |
| 23:13.44 | Thunder_Child | that was even english |
| 23:14.05 | Fisker | small maps designed to help you become a better player in certains aspects |
| 23:14.19 | Fisker | Like how do i use hotkeys, how do i stack mutas, how do i stop being a n00b and l2read? |
| 23:14.41 | Thunder_Child | isnt that just the training levels? |
| 23:15.03 | Fisker | training levels? |
| 23:15.20 | Thunder_Child | tutorial levels |
| 23:15.25 | Fisker | lol |
| 23:15.42 | Fisker | Yeah tutorial levels will start out by learning you multiplayer e-sports level gameplay |
| 23:15.42 | Fisker | durr |
| 23:16.06 | Fisker | I should find the Eve Online learning curve chart and replace it with S C2 |
| 23:16.07 | Fisker | Sc2 |
| 23:16.23 | kd3 | is it an inverted L? |
| 23:16.28 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 23:16.33 | ScytheBlade1 | exactly what I was thinking |
| 23:16.55 | Fisker | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3088/2335016192_6003c39c4c.jpg |
| 23:17.25 | kd3 | lol |
| 23:17.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Also pretty good |
| 23:18.45 | Fisker | sleeptiems though |
| 23:20.29 | sacarasc | Good night, darling Fisker. |
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| 23:29.10 | Thunder_Child | how could you even type that sacarasc, just reading it made me vomit a bit in my mouth |
| 23:29.20 | tekkub | are there any talents on any classes that push heal range beyond 40yd? |
| 23:29.38 | tekkub | or glyphs |
| 23:30.14 | kd3 | afaik no |
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| 23:36.30 | Shadowed | !seen xbeeps |
| 23:36.47 | Shadowed | oops |
| 23:36.51 | Shadowed | ~seen xbeeps |
| 23:36.54 | purl | xbeeps <n=xbeeps@2603ds1-giu.0.fullrate.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 529d 4h 53m 37s ago, saying: 'quick question: is LibDogTag-2.0 a drop-in replacement for DogTag-1.0 ?'. |
| 23:37.01 | Shadowed | yea thats a bit of a while ago |
| 23:37.32 | Arrowmaster | hes active on the wowace forums, you could send him a pm on their |
| 23:37.35 | Arrowmaster | there |
| 23:37.52 | Shadowed | yea doing that |
| 23:38.03 | Shadowed | since he broke the upgrade path for LibHealComm-3.0 :< |
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| 23:56.31 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck |
| 23:56.34 | Arrowmaster | http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/video/clips/conan-and-andy-do-manga-072409/1139088/ |
| 23:57.40 | Arrowmaster | was that really on last nights show? |
| 23:57.57 | Arrowmaster | or is it just an older clip that was posted yesterday |
| 23:58.14 | ScytheBlade1 | "7/24/09" |
| 23:58.24 | Arrowmaster | i know |
