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| 00:06.36 | Kraps | hot damn http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=28618 |
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| 00:15.49 | Wobin | Kraps: ? |
| 00:16.36 | Kraps | danica patrick, look it up |
| 00:16.51 | Kraps | the npc even looks like her |
| 00:19.52 | Wobin | Kraps: I agree with the commenter |
| 00:19.55 | Wobin | you're stretching =P |
| 00:20.29 | Kraps | nuh uh!!!!! |
| 00:20.40 | Wobin | keep dreaming |
| 00:21.04 | Wobin | they would have made it more obvious if it were a direct reference |
| 00:21.23 | Wobin | they also would have put her on the Shimmering Flats |
| 00:22.26 | mikma | i've never had such a priviledge to play with bunch of retards than i did moment ago |
| 00:22.41 | mikma | they completely fucked up the rest of the eots and we lost to french O_o |
| 00:22.54 | mikma | from 500-1000 to 2000-1700 |
| 00:24.30 | Kraps | later |
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| 00:31.49 | Gnarfoz | Proditor: poke |
| 00:32.06 | Proditor | :o |
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| 00:57.05 | alestane | That was weird. |
| 00:57.21 | alestane | I was clearing the throne room in BRD, and a runner managed to pull Moira without Thaurissan. |
| 00:57.58 | alestane | So she followed me around while I cleared out all the other senators. |
| 00:58.02 | mikma | so, what kind of debuffs there are when you use some megasupercool spell? Forbearance, Hypothermia, Weakened Soul .. ? |
| 00:58.11 | Arrowmaster | moria still spawns for you? |
| 00:58.25 | alestane | Should she stop? |
| 00:58.32 | Arrowmaster | do the damn quest |
| 00:58.37 | alestane | This character hasn't finished the quest yet, that's why I'm there. |
| 00:59.12 | Arrowmaster | yeah if everybody in the party has done the quest its a shadow priestest or something |
| 00:59.30 | Arrowmaster | one of the few dynamic things in wow dungeons |
| 00:59.36 | Arrowmaster | same loot |
| 00:59.54 | alestane | 'Cause of course I can't just deck her, but that means I'm in combat for the foreseeable, so I never got to restart my pot cooldown or anything. |
| 01:00.46 | A-KO | Anyone going to blizzcon get their bar code emails yet? |
| 01:04.36 | Cairenn | bar code emails? |
| 01:05.07 | Antiarc | Welp |
| 01:05.11 | Antiarc | I'm going to be useless for the next 3 weeks |
| 01:05.12 | Antiarc | http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7831/screenshot001rwn.jpg |
| 01:06.17 | Thunder_Child | i dont remember the UI being that small |
| 01:07.35 | Adys | ROFL |
| 01:07.39 | Adys | http://pastebin.com/d367b9ffb |
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| 01:07.47 | foxlit | I don't remember that resolution :) |
| 01:08.23 | Antiarc | It's a mod |
| 01:08.30 | Adys | diablo fullscreen 1680 |
| 01:08.32 | Adys | do want |
| 01:08.33 | Antiarc | That enables all the resolutions your computer can handle |
| 01:08.37 | Antiarc | http://www.filefront.com/13892489/D2-High-Res-Widescreen-Mod/ |
| 01:08.43 | Antiarc | I'm playing windowed at 1680x1050 |
| 01:08.48 | Antiarc | And it looks beautiful |
| 01:09.30 | Thunder_Child | Antiarc, do they have one for SC? |
| 01:09.37 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/soviet_russia_bulls.jpg |
| 01:09.38 | Antiarc | I dunno |
| 01:09.42 | Antiarc | But I'm rather enjoying this |
| 01:10.03 | mikma | hih... |
| 01:10.04 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/computer_hardware_chart.jpg |
| 01:11.04 | Thunder_Child | found one at least http://www.starcraftresolutionhack.de.vu/ |
| 01:11.16 | Adys | mikma: I clicked that at the same time as you linked it |
| 01:11.27 | foxlit | all hail the great google, TC? :) |
| 01:11.32 | mikma | adys: pro skills |
| 01:11.34 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/sarcasm.jpg |
| 01:11.35 | Thunder_Child | infrrf foxlit |
| 01:11.40 | Thunder_Child | indeed* |
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| 01:16.38 | Adys | mikma: did you check that paste |
| 01:16.46 | Adys | instead of looking at fail images |
| 01:17.08 | mikma | adys: i always do |
| 01:19.59 | Adys | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/1_curved_yellow_fruit.jpg |
| 01:20.02 | Adys | Took me a while to get it |
| 01:20.06 | Adys | maybe i should sleep |
| 01:20.25 | mikma | may be a good idea for me too |
| 01:32.45 | Adys | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/dirty_mind5.jpg |
| 01:32.47 | Adys | yeah.. |
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| 01:33.53 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072309_043121.jpg is this too colorful? :O |
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| 01:39.05 | mikma | vs this. http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072309_043837.jpg |
| 01:39.57 | Mikk | Shadowed: pong. read privmsgs sometime? =) |
| 01:40.42 | Shadowed | Mikk curse has a public SVN you can pull off of, no? |
| 01:40.48 | Mikk | It has |
| 01:40.53 | Shadowed | unless theres something specific, you could make the uploader pull that |
| 01:41.02 | Mikk | But it does packaging magic for the zip files |
| 01:41.02 | Shadowed | mmm |
| 01:41.12 | Mikk | Embed libraries, rip out debug code (if you use such directives) ... |
| 01:41.23 | Shadowed | you're probably screwed then :< |
| 01:41.29 | Mikk | Prolly.. damn wowmatrix |
| 01:42.37 | Shadowed | if you had a reliable URL could probably plug something in pretty easily but |
| 01:43.00 | Shadowed | then you won't get the changelog stuff updating without changing it so it both pulls that from SVN and such |
| 01:43.24 | Shadowed | I'm thinking the end result is I hate the packaging magic |
| 01:43.27 | Shadowed | :d |
| 01:44.20 | Arrowmaster | what are you trying to do? |
| 01:44.39 | Mikk | Minimum fuss of pushing updates of addons to wowinterface - ones that are hosted on wowace |
| 01:44.48 | Mikk | (as in svn hosted) |
| 01:45.32 | Mikk | Shadowed: actually it would be fairly easy to yank the changelog out of the zip file... though it does become a bit wowace-centric |
| 01:45.37 | Shadowed | yea |
| 01:45.43 | Shirik | [2. Trade] Get your Gem 'n' Juice on! Jewelcrafting (Grand Master) & Alchemy! No credit check, no contracts, and no hidden fees! |
| 01:45.57 | Mikk | (since wowace generates svn changelogs from the last release) |
| 01:46.33 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: where did the apikey stuff go? |
| 01:46.45 | Mikk | oh yeah that stuff, i forgot about that |
| 01:46.50 | Mikk | you generate one under your account settings |
| 01:46.59 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/home/api-key/ |
| 01:47.05 | Arrowmaster | there was a KB article on how to use it i thought |
| 01:47.44 | ckknight | http://kb.curseforge.com/projects/uploading-through-a-script/ |
| 01:48.11 | Thunder_Child | is there a particularly good reason why you can force /quit but not /logout? |
| 01:48.11 | Arrowmaster | thats not shown on wowace |
| 01:48.29 | ckknight | right, because you can't upload on wowace |
| 01:49.37 | Shadowed | what I really need to do is write a more durable script that can upload to both curse and wowi but |
| 01:49.42 | Shadowed | so little motivation to write Java |
| 01:51.33 | Mikk | lmao nice going Acer.. i just bought a new laptop and as I sit working with it it looks like there's a dried-in booger or something on the rim |
| 01:51.44 | Mikk | so i scratch scratch scratch.. thing aint coming off... |
| 01:51.51 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: so no way to automate downloading using the apikey for your own projects? |
| 01:51.53 | Mikk | it's their dvd symbol in off-white :< |
| 01:52.33 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster sure |
| 01:52.35 | Shadowed | you could login |
| 01:52.36 | Shadowed | and get it |
| 01:52.36 | Shadowed | :< |
| 01:52.49 | Mikk | well.. the thing is.. having the api key = instant login |
| 01:52.50 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, sure you could |
| 01:52.55 | ckknight | just scrape |
| 01:53.00 | ckknight | scraping shouldn't be hard |
| 01:53.01 | Shadowed | you don't need to download it anywa, the key doesn't really change |
| 01:53.16 | Shadowed | kind of odd that you want to login to get an automated key you could just pass as an arg |
| 01:53.16 | Arrowmaster | oh no more flash stuff? |
| 01:53.37 | Mikk | hm.. good point.. does wowace.com even have anti-wowmatrix stuff? |
| 01:53.40 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: it is passed as an arg |
| 01:54.14 | Mikk | heh.. wowace.com doesnt have that stuff |
| 01:54.16 | Mikk | it's only curse.com |
| 01:54.18 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster yea, but the apikey only changes if you regenerate it so grab it once and tahts pretty much all you need |
| 01:54.25 | Arrowmaster | thats the point |
| 01:54.34 | Shadowed | you want to login once to grab and save the key? |
| 01:54.58 | Mikk | thinks there's confusion about agreement |
| 01:55.10 | Arrowmaster | you ask the user what their api key is and give them a link to the page to generate it if they dont know wtf that is |
| 01:55.17 | Mikk | see =) |
| 01:55.18 | Shadowed | ah fair |
| 01:55.25 | Arrowmaster | you never login for them |
| 01:55.34 | Mikk | you are both agreeing :P |
| 01:55.44 | Shadowed | I blame him Mikk |
| 01:55.54 | Mikk | that's fine, i blame Ammo |
| 01:56.27 | Mikk | likes blaming Ammo |
| 01:57.00 | Shirik | I blame Ammo too |
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| 02:10.06 | Thunder_Child | as per SOP i blame Shirik |
| 02:25.49 | Thunder_Child | ~aggro |
| 02:26.50 | kd3 | grr |
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| 02:33.56 | Shirik | let's try a little test |
| 02:35.09 | Thunder_Child | do we have to? |
| 02:38.35 | Torhal | ~lart mikma |
| 02:38.35 | purl | pushes the wall down onto mikma whilst whistling innocently |
| 02:38.42 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/117990 |
| 02:38.52 | Shirik | I dare any of you to try to answer |
| 02:39.23 | Thunder_Child | 42 |
| 02:40.59 | mikma | torhal: basterds |
| 02:41.43 | Torhal | What? |
| 02:42.02 | Torhal | All the LibQTipClick-1.1 shit I'm still running works fine. |
| 02:43.01 | Recluse | Does anyone know if the default action buttons 100% size at 1.0 ui scale? |
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| 02:43.41 | mikma | torhal: some monkey used a new libqtip and ribbon assploded on him |
| 02:44.33 | Shirik | kd3 go! |
| 02:44.35 | Shirik | you can answer it |
| 02:44.51 | Torhal | mikma: So this guy manually disembedded and you're bitching at me? |
| 02:44.54 | Torhal | :P |
| 02:44.57 | Torhal | ~lart mikma |
| 02:44.57 | purl | squishes mikma like a bug |
| 02:46.14 | Torhal | mikma: Anywho, you're using SetCellScript() correctly - but using a single handler isn't a good idea anymore if you're checking for "OnMouseUp" or whatever, since there is no longer an event parameter. |
| 02:46.51 | mikma | torhal: oh no, he used broker_raidsave from wowi and ribbon |
| 02:47.21 | mikma | torhal: apparently raidave uses latest libqtip, which does something evil with older versions |
| 02:47.25 | Torhal | You must be doing something weird with ribbon then, because all of the AddOns I'm using that still use LibQTipClick-1.1 work fine. |
| 02:47.45 | Torhal | And I'm using LibQTip-1.0 standalone |
| 02:47.55 | mikma | dunno what he did |
| 02:48.03 | mikma | see the link i gave you |
| 02:48.19 | Torhal | I can't view it since I'm not a member of your development team. |
| 02:48.47 | mikma | ... err? |
| 02:49.03 | Torhal | That's the error message I got |
| 02:49.30 | Shirik | you all suck :( |
| 02:50.07 | Torhal | mikma: You are not the owner,team member or an admin of this portal. |
| 02:50.18 | Torhal | Shirik: Did Fisker infect your or something? |
| 02:50.24 | Torhal | s/your/you/ |
| 02:50.33 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: theres no b wtf? |
| 02:50.41 | mikma | torhal: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13097-Ribbon.html#comments |
| 02:51.06 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: b? |
| 02:51.15 | Arrowmaster | in that pastey |
| 02:52.13 | Shirik | why should there be a b |
| 02:52.30 | Arrowmaster | the question says "a and b" but theres no b |
| 02:53.58 | Shirik | oh sorry |
| 02:54.02 | Shirik | Fine, only a :P |
| 02:54.08 | Shirik | b wasn't necessary |
| 02:55.13 | Arrowmaster | 0 4 6 7 8 9, just guessing since i dont even know what 7 and 9 are |
| 02:55.35 | Arrowmaster | or really understand the question |
| 02:55.43 | Shirik | & is bitwise and, | is bitwise or |
| 02:55.56 | Shirik | the question is "is a compiler allowed to optimize the left side into the right side" |
| 02:56.03 | Shirik | that is, does the left side always equal the right side |
| 02:56.28 | Arrowmaster | was i close? |
| 02:56.31 | Shirik | no |
| 02:56.41 | Shirik | I'm curious why you skipped #1 though |
| 02:56.59 | Arrowmaster | i didnt understand the question |
| 02:57.03 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 02:57.10 | Shirik | would you like to answer again? :) |
| 02:57.28 | Shirik | don't worry, I wouldn't be asking this question if I didn't expect people to get it very wrong |
| 02:57.34 | Shirik | it's just an issue I came across today at work |
| 02:58.23 | Arrowmaster | whats a << 1 |
| 02:58.54 | Shirik | a, bitshift left 1 |
| 03:01.59 | Arrowmaster | 0 1 2 4 6 7 8 9, i pass on 3 because i dont know enough about floating points i guess to even understand how that works |
| 03:02.09 | Arrowmaster | still bad? |
| 03:02.10 | Torhal | mikma: Re-writing it now. |
| 03:03.03 | Shirik | ok so Arrowmaster got that almost completely wrong. Any other volunteers before I give away the answers? |
| 03:03.09 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 03:03.30 | mikma | torhal: .. rewriting whaaaat? |
| 03:04.21 | Torhal | mikma: Ribbon. |
| 03:04.27 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: i remind you i am not a professional programmer and have never even taken any classes in programming |
| 03:04.28 | Torhal | The script portion :P |
| 03:04.35 | Shirik | :P |
| 03:04.37 | Shirik | it's ok Arrowmaster |
| 03:04.43 | Shirik | even some of the best programmers will get this wrong |
| 03:05.30 | mikma | torhal: neat. is this for lqt120? |
| 03:06.04 | Torhal | Yah. |
| 03:06.07 | Arrowmaster | but apparently i can configure a cisco router with my eyes closed, got 2nd place in a national skills competition in highschool |
| 03:07.41 | ScytheBlade1 | quick - how do I name a screen session, and reattach to it by name instead of process ID? |
| 03:08.31 | mikma | yey new joe, lua coloring! |
| 03:09.25 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: use -S name when starting it and -r name to reconnect to it |
| 03:10.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: <3 |
| 03:10.29 | Arrowmaster | you can change the name while its running but i dont remember how |
| 03:10.40 | ScytheBlade1 | No need |
| 03:10.54 | Arrowmaster | btw this is all in the man page |
| 03:11.09 | ScytheBlade1 | The man page is also longer than some longish-novels |
| 03:11.38 | Arrowmaster | command line arguments are at the start |
| 03:15.37 | Torhal | mikma: http://paste.wowace.com/874/ |
| 03:18.00 | mikma | wicked. lets see now |
| 03:19.33 | mikma | hehe, date posted: 3 hours ago |
| 03:19.41 | Torhal | mikma: BWAH! |
| 03:19.47 | Torhal | I have prescience! |
| 03:20.30 | Stanzilla | "|tRibbon|r is AddOn where you can store notes." I iz addon, too |
| 03:20.48 | mikma | basicly, the local functions got 'cell' |
| 03:21.07 | kd3 | grr... this is what I get for logging out in dalaran on the ptr |
| 03:21.26 | Torhal | mikma: There is no more handler function since you're setting scripts directly on the cells instead of via callback. |
| 03:21.28 | mikma | stanzilla: you, stanzilla, suck cookies. write that down. |
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| 03:21.48 | Stanzilla | mikma: just bored at 5:30 am :P |
| 03:21.54 | mikma | torhal: aye, i got that part semiworking. was able to print the tooltip but clicks didnt work |
| 03:22.09 | mikma | stanzilla: 06:22am =) |
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| 03:25.00 | anesthesia | I am stuck on authenticating.. |
| 03:25.29 | mikma | haahaa |
| 03:34.44 | Shirik | ??????? |
| 03:34.48 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:34.50 | Shirik | stupid mirc |
| 03:34.52 | Shirik | l2japanese |
| 03:35.07 | ScytheBlade1 | 23:34 <@Shirik> stupid mirc |
| 03:35.10 | ScytheBlade1 | That is all |
| 03:35.15 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1! |
| 03:35.18 | Shirik | You never answered the question |
| 03:35.23 | ScytheBlade1 | What question? |
| 03:35.28 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/117990 |
| 03:35.36 | Shirik | Which of those are valid compiler optimizations |
| 03:35.40 | Torhal | How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie pop? |
| 03:35.56 | Adys | 92 |
| 03:36.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I do not know the specifics of IEEE floating point math |
| 03:36.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I choose not to answer |
| 03:36.39 | anesthesia | hi. my harddrive is split up into two 50gb portions. How can i add more space to my /c drive? |
| 03:36.53 | ScytheBlade1 | You don't |
| 03:37.05 | anesthesia | Why? |
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| 03:37.23 | Gnarfoz | gparted for example ;o |
| 03:37.25 | ScytheBlade1 | You can either nuke your second partition and resize your C:, but you don't |
| 03:37.27 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: i dont know the specifics either but i tried |
| 03:38.00 | Arrowmaster | you can reduce the size of a partition then add that free space to another partiton |
| 03:38.11 | anesthesia | how arrow? |
| 03:38.28 | Gnarfoz | gparted for example |
| 03:38.31 | Arrowmaster | you on vista with ntfs im guessing? |
| 03:38.33 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 03:38.46 | anesthesia | nlfts? |
| 03:38.57 | Torhal | ? |
| 03:39.01 | Torhal | WTF is NLTFS? |
| 03:39.04 | Recluse | lol |
| 03:39.17 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: i used to keep a partition magic boot disk around back when it was the only reliable thing |
| 03:39.23 | Adys | Never Let The File System |
| 03:39.24 | Adys | or sth |
| 03:39.28 | Gnarfoz | PQmagic? reliable? :p |
| 03:39.36 | Adys | Gnarfoz: PM |
| 03:39.56 | Gnarfoz | yes, I can see Adys |
| 03:40.01 | Arrowmaster | i have no clue what can reduce NTFS partitions now |
| 03:40.08 | Adys | gparted |
| 03:40.09 | Gnarfoz | still gparted :< |
| 03:40.32 | anesthesia | ok, i just had 1.96gb remaining..i deleted a file from the recycle bin and has 1.86gb remaining....... |
| 03:43.20 | mikma | stop downloading porn at the same time |
| 03:43.41 | Thunder_Child | but....it's porn |
| 03:45.44 | Shirik | ?????? |
| 03:45.46 | Shirik | FU |
| 03:45.47 | Shirik | fufufu |
| 03:45.54 | Shirik | ?????? |
| 03:45.56 | Shirik | sigh |
| 03:46.17 | Adys | it might just be freenode filtering you out |
| 03:46.19 | Arrowmaster | what are you doing? |
| 03:47.16 | Thunder_Child | he is releasing his inner Fisker |
| 03:48.06 | anesthesia | Thanks everyone! |
| 03:48.09 | *** part/#wowuidev anesthesia (n=jasm@68-118-5-053.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com) |
| 03:49.19 | Shirik | no I've done it before Adys |
| 03:49.27 | Arrowmaster | what? |
| 03:49.27 | Shirik | and besides, IRC doesn't respond to what you send |
| 03:49.39 | Shirik | so my client would have no way of knowing it's being turned into ???? |
| 03:49.42 | Adys | true |
| 03:49.49 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Typed japanese text |
| 03:49.57 | Shirik | It shows up right in the edit box |
| 03:50.00 | Torhal | mikma: *stab* |
| 03:50.00 | Shirik | but when I hit enter it turns into ?? |
| 03:50.05 | Arrowmaster | ã¨ãã |
| 03:50.12 | ScytheBlade1 | 23:34 <@Shirik> stupid mirc |
| 03:50.12 | mikma | torhal: immune! |
| 03:50.13 | Adys | which client anyway |
| 03:50.15 | ScytheBlade1 | That is all |
| 03:50.18 | Adys | ah. |
| 03:50.23 | Torhal | mikma: OMFG! |
| 03:50.24 | Arrowmaster | å¤æ
|
| 03:50.34 | mikma | torhal: bubble |
| 03:50.35 | Arrowmaster | ã¸ããã |
| 03:50.44 | Adys | ~x jp en ã¸ããã |
| 03:50.53 | Adys | whatever |
| 03:50.57 | Arrowmaster | purl cant handle utf8 |
| 03:50.57 | Gnarfoz | Adys: purl still doesn't do utf8 :) |
| 03:51.14 | Shirik | I'm trying to type "kanara" |
| 03:51.14 | mikma | ~x jp en bukkake |
| 03:51.21 | Shirik | ~x en jp need |
| 03:51.23 | Gnarfoz | it can output it |
| 03:51.25 | Shirik | ^ that |
| 03:51.29 | Shirik | well, the first character |
| 03:51.32 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't expect it on input, though |
| 03:51.43 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: view -> font |
| 03:52.03 | Arrowmaster | utf-8 dropdown, select 'display and encode' |
| 03:52.23 | Shirik | ã´ã¡ã
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| 03:52.27 | Shirik | <3 |
| 03:52.37 | Arrowmaster | and you really dont want to know what i was typing |
| 03:52.59 | mikma | orly |
| 03:53.01 | Gnarfoz | ã³ã§ããããããå¢å£åå |
| 03:53.02 | Gnarfoz | :O |
| 03:53.12 | Shirik | "change manner" |
| 03:53.15 | Shirik | "slang: pervert" |
| 03:54.54 | Shirik | Gnarfoz |
| 03:54.57 | Shirik | did that mean anything reasonable? |
| 03:55.10 | Gnarfoz | not that I'm aware |
| 03:55.13 | Shirik | Because I put it into my translator and, while it translated every word perfectly, it failed to give me some reasonable analysis of it |
| 03:55.19 | Gnarfoz | just charmap.exe fun :) |
| 03:55.37 | Arrowmaster | i put it into a translator and got YOå¢å£ååmeaning MACHIKI filter paper and |
| 03:55.47 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 03:55.51 | mikma | torhal: dod you have something? cause imma gonna fall asleep soon |
| 03:56.14 | Shirik | something along the lines of "beautiful filter paper for ceremony is good for staring at together" |
| 03:56.18 | Torhal | mikma: I pasted a working version of Ribbon. I thought you'd test it then update WoWI. |
| 03:56.18 | Shirik | I skiped the MACHIKI |
| 03:56.43 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: whats vadzuka? |
| 03:56.44 | mikma | torhal: dont have wow in this Nokia N810 =D |
| 03:57.00 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: vadyuka |
| 03:57.10 | Shirik | the closest thing I could find to vodka |
| 03:57.12 | Torhal | mikma: Fisker on you! |
| 03:57.15 | Torhal | mikma: Go to bed. |
| 03:57.23 | mikma | i am in bed! |
| 03:57.36 | Torhal | Fine! |
| 03:57.37 | mikma | hence the n810 instead of pc |
| 03:57.41 | Shirik | sorry, vaduka |
| 03:57.42 | Torhal | Hah |
| 03:57.52 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: ã¦ã©ãã« |
| 03:58.07 | mikma | shirik: profit! |
| 03:58.07 | Shirik | are you sure that's.... valid |
| 03:58.11 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 03:58.14 | Shirik | I've never seen something like that |
| 03:58.22 | mikma | <0657> <Arrowmaster> Shirik: ???? |
| 03:58.22 | mikma | <0658> <mikma> shirik: profit! |
| 03:58.24 | Shirik | But I just threw the kana together on my own |
| 03:58.24 | mikma | hehe |
| 03:58.32 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 03:58.37 | Arrowmaster | thats bad |
| 03:58.38 | Shirik | that's what katakana's for |
| 03:58.45 | Arrowmaster | http://translate.google.com/translate_t#en|ja|vodka |
| 03:58.48 | Shirik | just being thrown together |
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| 03:59.09 | Shirik | I seriously don't think you can do that; I've never seen that before, but maybe I guess |
| 03:59.21 | Arrowmaster | do what? |
| 03:59.31 | Shirik | the two small kanas... I don't know what they're called |
| 03:59.47 | Shirik | I've only ever seen them paired |
| 03:59.55 | mikma | torhal: http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072309_043837.jpg |
| 04:00.07 | Arrowmaster | i dont know, i dont know japanese |
| 04:00.18 | mikma | torhal: http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072309_044252.jpg |
| 04:00.27 | Shirik | ah... "In informal writing, small versions of the five vowel kana are sometimes used to represent trailing off sounds (ã¯ã, ãã)." |
| 04:00.50 | mikma | kana means chicken in finnish |
| 04:00.51 | ccox | I know Japanese - they tell me my application can handle mojibake perfectly! |
| 04:01.11 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 04:01.11 | Gnarfoz | ccox: yep |
| 04:01.15 | Arrowmaster | mojibake heh |
| 04:01.51 | ccox | (it's a lot funnier if you've ever had to chase down bug reports on localized text handling) |
| 04:02.11 | Torhal | mikma: ?? |
| 04:02.21 | Shirik | wait holy crap |
| 04:02.22 | mikma | torhal: profit! |
| 04:02.24 | Shirik | Arrowmaster, I just realized |
| 04:02.29 | Shirik | Google almost had exactly what I said :/ |
| 04:02.46 | Shirik | ã´ã¡ã
ã« vs ã¦ã©ãã« |
| 04:02.51 | Arrowmaster | google didnt understand it when i pasted in what you said |
| 04:03.02 | Shirik | it would be interesting to see if google understands what it said itself |
| 04:03.06 | Shirik | because katakana really doesn't mean anything |
| 04:03.28 | mikma | torhal: pvp spell/buff alert addon =) |
| 04:03.32 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 04:03.35 | Shirik | katakana is just a way of representing sounds to work with other languages |
| 04:03.37 | Torhal | mikma: Yours? |
| 04:03.48 | Shirik | technically, if it were spelled out, it should be in all caps |
| 04:03.51 | mikma | torhal: jnwhiteh and me |
| 04:03.53 | Shirik | so you would write VODKA |
| 04:03.56 | Torhal | Cool. |
| 04:04.07 | Shirik | (or, in my form, VADUKA) |
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| 04:05.40 | mikma | torhal: http://svn.wowinterface.com/listing.php?repname=OhSnap&path=%2Ftrunk%2F#_trunk_ =) |
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| 04:06.50 | Thunder_Child | that did look rather nice mikma, what does it display exactly? |
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| 04:07.19 | mikma | thunder_child: actually 4 different things have been put in a prio list |
| 04:07.27 | mikma | 1) dangerous CC spells |
| 04:08.08 | mikma | 2) buffs that usually make target do something bad |
| 04:08.18 | mikma | 3) buffs that arfe annoying |
| 04:08.41 | mikma | 4) debuffs which you profit |
| 04:09.13 | Thunder_Child | what thes to/from targets? |
| 04:09.16 | Thunder_Child | the* |
| 04:09.19 | Thunder_Child | whats* |
| 04:09.22 | Thunder_Child | stupid s |
| 04:09.55 | mikma | examples: 1) big font telling healer is being mana burned, 2) large fornt telling paladin has bubbled, 3) small font telling target has pw:s, 4) small font telling paladin cant bubble |
| 04:10.15 | mikma | outside arenas its just your target |
| 04:10.26 | mikma | in arena its all arena-units |
| 04:11.03 | Thunder_Child | nifty, i notice times, how often does it repost it? |
| 04:11.36 | bleeter | http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/020420.html |
| 04:12.19 | mikma | thunder_child: the messages stay for the full lenght of buff/debuff/ spell being casted |
| 04:12.22 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072309_003659.jpg |
| 04:12.28 | mikma | older photo |
| 04:12.49 | Thunder_Child | so you mean it stays there and counts down? |
| 04:12.56 | mikma | yeap |
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| 04:13.17 | mikma | if you lose the target the messages go away ofc |
| 04:13.26 | mikma | but in arena they stay |
| 04:13.30 | Thunder_Child | that might get very crowded in a 5v |
| 04:13.41 | Thunder_Child | maybe even in a 3v |
| 04:13.48 | Recluse | Hmm, talking to a flight master requests a new mail check/event. How strange. |
| 04:13.52 | mikma | yeap, i most likely will |
| 04:14.27 | Thunder_Child | mikma, is there an intelligent filtering system? |
| 04:14.33 | mikma | need some sort of detection that multiple values of same spells will not be displayed, just 1 line |
| 04:14.56 | Thunder_Child | that wouldnt work |
| 04:14.56 | mikma | thunder_child: not yet (for arenas) |
| 04:16.51 | Adys | So uh |
| 04:20.51 | mikma | thunder_child: anyway, ideas, suggestions and .. everything are welcome =D |
| 04:21.05 | mikma | need to start working a proper GUI soon |
| 04:21.38 | mikma | nn -> ZZZzzz... |
| 04:24.18 | bleeter | mmm 3d youtube |
| 04:24.19 | bleeter | and |
| 04:24.25 | bleeter | happy 10th MSN, diaf |
| 04:25.36 | Adys | in lua, how do I import a file as lua? |
| 04:25.51 | Adys | like, lets be wild and imagine i want to open savedvariables. |
| 04:26.06 | Arrowmaster | loadstring |
| 04:26.23 | Arrowmaster | well thats what i do |
| 04:26.41 | Adys | looks like loadfile |
| 04:26.43 | Adys | thanks :) |
| 04:28.51 | Arrowmaster | oh now i remember why i used loadstring, because i do setfenv on the function before calling it |
| 04:38.39 | Shirik | anyway ScytheBlade1/Arrowmaster |
| 04:38.44 | Shirik | I never gave you the answers |
| 04:38.59 | Shirik | 1-6 are definitely invalid |
| 04:39.03 | Arrowmaster | let me guess, correct answer is none of them |
| 04:39.08 | Shirik | 0, 7, 8, 9 are arguable |
| 04:39.10 | Shirik | but potentially invalid |
| 04:39.22 | Shirik | technically invalid |
| 04:39.53 | Arrowmaster | so you tricked me |
| 04:40.06 | Shirik | it is interesting to point out that for unsigned integers, though, Arrowmaster, |
| 04:40.09 | Arrowmaster | asking me why i said 1 wasnt |
| 04:40.12 | Shirik | i+i is indeed i << 1 |
| 04:40.47 | Shirik | bitshift left is often used to optimize multiplication by 2 |
| 04:40.49 | kd3 | heh, neat. I lagged out in an isle of conquest battle and am now swimming around in sholazar basin |
| 04:40.52 | Shirik | (or, accordingly, powers of 2) |
| 04:43.43 | Arrowmaster | are we assuming in those situations that a is always a floating point? because if not then yeah i would have instantly said none of them |
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| 05:06.15 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: As always, read the instructions |
| 05:06.26 | Shirik | For two IEEE floating point numbers, a and b... |
| 05:06.54 | Shirik | The issue is that these optimizations fail when a is indeterminate |
| 05:07.01 | Shirik | such as a = 0/0, a = sqrt(-1), etc. |
| 05:07.09 | Shirik | lua> a = 0/0; assert(a == a) |
| 05:07.11 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: assertion failed! |
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| 05:15.07 | anesthesia | ERROR #132 (0x85100084) Fatal Exception |
| 05:15.08 | anesthesia | Program:C:\Users\Public\Games\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe |
| 05:15.08 | anesthesia | Exception:0xC0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 001B:00000000 |
| 05:15.12 | anesthesia | What happened? |
| 05:15.26 | tekkub | an ACCESS_VIOLATION |
| 05:15.30 | ScytheBlade1 | bad RAM is a possibility |
| 05:15.40 | ScytheBlade1 | bad data on the hard drives is another |
| 05:15.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Drivers |
| 05:15.44 | ScytheBlade1 | hard to say! |
| 05:15.48 | tekkub | gnomes |
| 05:15.55 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:15.57 | anesthesia | um...........all i did was change the video settings, press apply, and BAM! |
| 05:16.14 | Torhal | All of what ScytheBlade1 said apply to that scenario. |
| 05:16.26 | Torhal | Except maybe the drive. |
| 05:16.28 | anesthesia | so what do i do now? |
| 05:16.45 | Torhal | Run memtest? |
| 05:16.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Diagnosing an ACCESS_VIOLATION is kind of like finding a single fish in a 50 mile radius lake |
| 05:16.51 | Torhal | Update your video driver? |
| 05:16.57 | Torhal | Eat more chicken? |
| 05:17.09 | tekkub | I vote for contact blizzard's tech support |
| 05:17.25 | Torhal | tekkub: You KNOW they'll just say "Disable all AddOns. Thanks for playing!" |
| 05:17.46 | tekkub | yea, but I'm not going to tell em to do that |
| 05:17.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Torhal: addons should NEVER cause an ACCESS_VOILATION. If they do, it's a quite serious bug in WoW |
| 05:18.21 | tekkub | ScytheBlade1: remember when an addon could crash anyone on a mac? :P |
| 05:18.36 | ScytheBlade1 | tekkub: emphasis "should" ;) |
| 05:18.53 | tekkub | emphasis was on NEVER |
| 05:18.57 | Torhal | ScytheBlade1: That was a joke. It's kinda the standard GM reaction to almost everything. |
| 05:18.59 | tekkub | :P |
| 05:19.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Torhal: I know.. but the tech support people aren't GMs. |
| 05:19.28 | Torhal | Debatable. :D |
| 05:19.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Not really |
| 05:19.36 | anesthesia | what causes the authentication issues they are expereicing tonight? |
| 05:19.46 | kd3 | the phase of the moon |
| 05:19.48 | ScytheBlade1 | anesthesia: blizzard servers, nothing the users can control. |
| 05:20.03 | Torhal | That happens when companies replace the interns they were using to do that stuff with janitors. |
| 05:20.13 | Thunder_Child | unless the users happen to work in the blizz IT department |
| 05:20.18 | Thunder_Child | or programming |
| 05:20.18 | tekkub | they're pushing people to battle.net is all |
| 05:20.30 | tekkub | they got at least one convert with tonight's "issues" |
| 05:20.51 | anesthesia | what is battle.net? |
| 05:20.52 | Thunder_Child | tekkub, where is my addon! |
| 05:20.58 | tekkub | over there |
| 05:21.03 | kd3 | it's a website. go to it |
| 05:21.08 | Thunder_Child | anesthesia, www.battle.net |
| 05:21.18 | ScytheBlade1 | ~kd3++ |
| 05:21.36 | tekkub | I wonder if this person even has any addon-related issues... |
| 05:21.38 | Thunder_Child | i never get karma when i'm an asshole |
| 05:21.45 | anesthesia | what do you mean pushing people to it? |
| 05:21.51 | Thunder_Child | such double standards ScytheBlade1 |
| 05:22.09 | ScytheBlade1 | the difference is the varied levels of subtlety |
| 05:22.17 | Thunder_Child | anesthesia, blizz is linking all of their games into one standard |
| 05:22.19 | kd3 | tekkub's comments imply that bnet accounts aren't having issues |
| 05:23.13 | anesthesia | oh, thank you kd3 |
| 05:23.32 | anesthesia | So do I need to make this battle.net myself, or will blizzard transfer me over eventually? |
| 05:23.42 | ScytheBlade1 | It will be forced eventually, I'm sure |
| 05:23.51 | kd3 | you'll need to make one yourself; but it will probably be forced |
| 05:24.47 | Adys | jnwhiteh: Im tempted to make a wowprogramming Kate plugin |
| 05:26.02 | Kraps | wowhead added premium features and people are freaking out |
| 05:26.10 | kd3 | zomg shock |
| 05:26.21 | kd3 | 'you mean bandwidth isn't free'? |
| 05:27.00 | Kraps | slippery slope and all that |
| 05:27.12 | Arrowmaster | all those people can go back to allakhazam or thottbot, oh wait |
| 05:27.19 | Kraps | heh |
| 05:27.21 | Adys | i dont like websites adding premium features just for the hell of adding premium features |
| 05:27.36 | Adys | "here, have custom avatars" |
| 05:27.51 | kd3 | meh, I was wondering when they were going to take the plunge considering they were one of the few zam sites without premium stuff |
| 05:28.07 | Adys | theyve been talking about it since back when I was still working there |
| 05:28.25 | Adys | so thats a good 2 year care and development invested into those.. er.. yeah, custom avatars |
| 05:28.37 | anesthesia | Omg! I merged my battle.net account thingy, and i could suddenly login! |
| 05:28.44 | Arrowmaster | "On top of this, signing up for a Premium membership on Wowhead not only gives you ad-free browsing and special features on Wowhead (see below), it also provides you with all the benefits of being a Premium member across the entire ZAM Networkâincluding ZAM.com, Allakhazam, and WoWInterfaceâyou can even run the MMOUI Minion add-on updater ad-free!" |
| 05:28.52 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: ZAM is exploiting you |
| 05:29.05 | Shirik | they are huh |
| 05:29.05 | Thunder_Child | well thats iritating, the premium features go only one way |
| 05:29.24 | anesthesia | why would WoW deny access to their members not currently signed-up with battle.net? |
| 05:29.24 | kd3 | keep reading; if you've already got zam premium, you've got it on wowhead too |
| 05:29.48 | Thunder_Child | they might want to put that in the faq |
| 05:29.57 | Kraps | anesthesia: you know bnet is a conspiracy to control wow users. its also a keylogger |
| 05:30.41 | Cairenn | growls at them not having told me they finally announced it |
| 05:30.53 | Cairenn | puts up her own news announcement she's had written for hours |
| 05:30.57 | anesthesia | it is not a keylogger! i didnt download anything |
| 05:31.08 | anesthesia | and why can you not alt+tab out of the WoW loading screen? |
| 05:31.08 | kd3 | it's a joke, anes |
| 05:31.26 | Adys | ps -e | grep keylogger.exe |
| 05:31.32 | ScytheBlade1 | anesthesia: why can't you alt+tab then? quite simply, "because" |
| 05:31.46 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: how is it only one way? |
| 05:32.39 | anesthesia | bye bye im off to play the world of warcraft |
| 05:33.12 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, kd3 pointed out where it isnt. i went to the faq before i got there and it wasnt on the faq |
| 05:33.21 | Cairenn | gotcha |
| 05:33.25 | Thunder_Child | s/isnt/is/ |
| 05:33.31 | Cairenn | yeah, I understood |
| 05:33.50 | Cairenn | eventually |
| 05:34.00 | kd3 | huzzah, got it |
| 05:34.03 | Thunder_Child | you sould be used to it by now |
| 05:34.07 | Thunder_Child | should* |
| 05:34.09 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 05:34.11 | kd3 | stops spamming f5 waiting for the link to go through |
| 05:35.51 | Thunder_Child | i'm just waiting for sites to come up with some really outrageous stuff. "Become a premium memeber with xxx and get extra talent points IN GAME!" |
| 05:35.51 | Adys | Ok |
| 05:36.14 | Adys | Someone please tell me if this is possible somehow in lua |
| 05:36.36 | Adys | foobar = 123; someFunction(foobar) |
| 05:36.49 | Adys | and someFunction returns "foobar", 123 |
| 05:36.59 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: have you played some of the free mmos with optional premium subscribtions? |
| 05:37.15 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, that system pisses me off more than anything |
| 05:37.20 | Adys | FlyFF!!*~ |
| 05:37.20 | anesthesia | How can a person get to ironforge airport? I went tons of times before, but I heard they fixed it. |
| 05:37.21 | Adys | rofl |
| 05:37.48 | Adys | man people still want to go to IF airport |
| 05:37.56 | anesthesia | yes, i loved it up ther |
| 05:37.57 | Adys | it was cool years ago |
| 05:38.10 | Adys | but i dont see the point now |
| 05:38.16 | Kraps | Raid Leader says: Get aggro tank ! |
| 05:38.16 | anesthesia | and old ironforge is cool to |
| 05:38.18 | Kraps | Tank says: hell no... i don't want to die. |
| 05:38.23 | anesthesia | although old ironforge is more boring |
| 05:38.51 | anesthesia | but why would they keep old ironforge in the game, and underneat the current ironforge |
| 05:39.13 | Adys | because its the worgen starting zone, so have I been told by a blizz employee |
| 05:39.19 | Arrowmaster | i tried dungeonrunners once, the system was setup so that you could only equip items over a certain quality if you had a premium subscription, comparing it to wow it was like you could play free but only wear greens |
| 05:39.31 | kd3 | old IF is there because it's used as scenery for flightpaths heading north |
| 05:39.32 | anesthesia | what is worgen? |
| 05:39.36 | kd3 | s/old IF/the airport/ |
| 05:39.40 | kd3 | www.wowwiki.com/Worgen |
| 05:40.08 | Adys | reminds me during beta they opened the old IF door |
| 05:40.11 | Adys | well, made it openable |
| 05:40.53 | Kraps | anesthesia: worgen is going to be the new race, even if thats 100% speculation |
| 05:40.53 | Arrowmaster | anesthesia: its still there because its easier to just leave it there instead of editing the terrain to remove it |
| 05:41.13 | Adys | one day blizz is gonna have to be less lazy |
| 05:41.17 | Adys | and clean up all this stuff |
| 05:41.48 | Adys | a while back .. around 1.11 or something, i made a small count of the unused terrain stuff |
| 05:41.55 | Adys | it was taking around 700mb |
| 05:42.21 | Adys | actually.. that was after bc, but still |
| 05:43.08 | anesthesia | how will worgen use old if as their starting zone? it has way too many "shops" and stuff.. |
| 05:43.17 | Adys | that was a joke >_> |
| 05:43.18 | kd3 | another joke... |
| 05:43.37 | Torhal | /wrists |
| 05:43.48 | anesthesia | yall are ridiciulous with all these inside jokes |
| 05:43.59 | Kraps | anesthesia: you dont read the forums much do you |
| 05:44.01 | ScytheBlade1 | They really honestly aren't inside jokes |
| 05:44.07 | Adys | they are |
| 05:44.11 | Adys | Old IF is very inside |
| 05:44.15 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 05:44.16 | anesthesia | which forums? the official ones? |
| 05:44.17 | Adys | Airport is more of an outside joke |
| 05:44.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ~lart Adys |
| 05:44.17 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives Adys a good jolt |
| 05:44.32 | Kraps | anesthesia: yeah |
| 05:44.41 | anesthesia | there are way too many sections to keep up with it all |
| 05:44.47 | Adys | dont read them all |
| 05:45.01 | Adys | or dont read them at all and stick to some news site. |
| 05:45.18 | anesthesia | such as? |
| 05:45.23 | Adys | mmo-champion.com \om |
| 05:45.25 | Adys | \o/ |
| 05:45.27 | Kraps | only way to get through them is to have a whopping heap of tongue-in-cheek |
| 05:46.40 | Kraps | Adys: mmo champ doesnt update often enough |
| 05:46.53 | Adys | your mom doesnt sleep with me often enough |
| 05:47.14 | Kraps | she said you're bad |
| 05:47.35 | Adys | I am your father |
| 05:47.41 | Kraps | NOOOOOOOO |
| 05:47.47 | Adys | DO NOT WANT |
| 05:47.54 | Kraps | ^ |
| 05:48.32 | Kraps | this is a newb tank joke? |
| 05:48.33 | Kraps | BUT IF I USE MY MOUSE TO TURN HOW DO I CLICK ON REND?! |
| 05:49.13 | Torhal | anesthesia: If you want to alt-tab while the WoW loading screen is up, change the video settings to windowed, maximized. |
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| 05:55.40 | anesthesia | has anyone gone through wisdom teeth? I feel "flaps" of loose skin in the back of my mouth where they would be, so would that mean they are coming in? |
| 05:56.10 | kd3 | ugh. I'm glad I got mine pulled before they started causing damage |
| 05:56.33 | Arrowmaster | i still have mine, theyre a pain sometimes |
| 05:56.41 | Kraps | c ya 2morrow |
| 05:56.54 | anesthesia | when they started coming in, did you have loose flaps of skin? i dunno how to describe it. |
| 05:57.32 | Arrowmaster | yeah sorta |
| 06:03.51 | anesthesia | Can anyone get this page to load? http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Comprehensive-Dentistry/HELP-Piece-Of-Loose-Skin-on-gums-Please/show/773499 |
| 06:04.03 | anesthesia | It came up in google and it just won't load for me. |
| 06:04.39 | Corrodias | it loads! |
| 06:04.53 | anesthesia | well darn. |
| 06:05.32 | Corrodias | copy: http://corrodias.no-ip.org/773499.htm |
| 06:06.12 | anesthesia | thanks |
| 06:08.57 | Shirik | tackles ScytheBlade1 |
| 06:12.26 | Fisker | slaps Shirik|zZz around a bit with a large trout |
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| 06:28.51 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.36 | Adys | I need some advice then |
| 06:30.19 | Conexion | I hate the word Viral. I hate it even more with the word meme after it |
| 06:30.35 | Adys | I need to store a LOT of tabular data in savedvariables |
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| 06:31.04 | Adys | Should I compress it? Should I make separate tables? |
| 06:31.35 | Adys | its mostly read, very rarely updated |
| 06:34.35 | Wobin | what sort of data? |
| 06:34.40 | Wobin | and how often accessed? |
| 06:34.59 | Adys | accessed outside the game mostly, and all sorts of data |
| 06:35.14 | Adys | keys are always strings |
| 06:35.40 | Adys | for example storing npc health, or ingame mails |
| 06:36.46 | Arrowmaster | just use libjson-1.0, you know you want to you damn webdeveloper |
| 06:36.57 | Adys | I already downloaded it |
| 06:37.02 | Adys | but I need to store it in wow |
| 06:39.49 | Adys | Wobin, Arrowmaster, decent example: http://pastebin.com/d6a66cd0 |
| 06:40.09 | Adys | atm its not recording anything |
| 06:40.14 | tekkub | hrm... my pajama pants are quickly becoming assless chaps |
| 06:40.19 | tekkub | time for a new pair |
| 06:41.43 | Arrowmaster | so 2 pairs of assless chaps is too many? |
| 06:41.56 | tekkub | I have no assless chaps :P |
| 06:42.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah right |
| 06:42.13 | tekkub | I used to have a harness |
| 06:42.19 | tekkub | but lost it in the move to AR |
| 06:46.54 | Fisker | plants a bomb |
| 06:47.37 | Thunder_Child | defuses it |
| 06:49.23 | Fisker | plants a undefusable bomb |
| 06:52.11 | Thunder_Child | erects a forcefield around it |
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| 06:56.12 | Adys | erects around Thunder_Child |
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| 07:09.51 | Adys | is there any kind of md5/sha1/somethingsimilar available in wow? |
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| 07:38.04 | haste | Adys: there are lua libraries for them both |
| 07:38.17 | Adys | yeah but in wow? |
| 07:38.31 | haste | not by default |
| 07:38.34 | Arrowmaster | there used to be an md5 one on wowace |
| 07:38.38 | haste | but there are still libraries written in pure lua |
| 07:38.50 | Adys | hm meh |
| 07:38.56 | Arrowmaster | one that uses bitlib instead of being pure lua would be better though |
| 07:38.59 | Adys | its a bad idea anyway |
| 07:39.30 | haste | why are you asking if it would be a bad idea anyway :P ? |
| 07:39.40 | Adys | because i asked long enough ago to reconsider |
| 07:39.40 | Adys | :P |
| 07:39.57 | haste | I don't really see why they should add something like that tho' |
| 07:40.08 | Torhal_ | http://www.wowace.com/addons/project-14355/ <-- the MD5 lib on WoWAce. |
| 07:40.08 | haste | so few people who have a use for it |
| 07:40.28 | Torhal_ | Used by exactly two projects. |
| 07:40.29 | Adys | wow should stop using lua and get sexing with python |
| 07:40.47 | Torhal_ | Hahaha |
| 07:40.53 | haste | yes, that will clearly happen :D |
| 07:41.01 | Adys | definitely |
| 07:41.03 | Torhal_ | I was just about to say "tekkub would say Ruby, because Python sucks" |
| 07:41.06 | Torhal_ | And he left channel |
| 07:41.08 | Torhal_ | Hahaha |
| 07:41.12 | Torhal_ | s/channel/server/ |
| 07:41.14 | Adys | rofl |
| 07:43.56 | Arrowmaster | ruby already has taint stuff in it |
| 07:45.02 | Adys | Im gonna need some opinions on this |
| 07:47.13 | Fisker | It's bad |
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| 07:47.39 | Dagmar | Well, yes, Ruby is tainted. ;) |
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| 08:03.39 | Wobin | Google Wave looks interesting |
| 08:03.52 | tekkub | i has no invite |
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| 08:05.57 | Wobin | I'd like one =P |
| 08:06.08 | tekkub | so would I :P |
| 08:06.11 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_UyVmITiYQ |
| 08:06.38 | tekkub | I think you need to talk about this next thing a bit first |
| 08:06.40 | tekkub | Huh? |
| 08:06.42 | tekkub | TALK! |
| 08:06.45 | tekkub | Oh, okey |
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| 08:10.57 | Vilkku | right |
| 08:11.04 | Vilkku | get mobile authenticator for my e51 |
| 08:11.12 | Vilkku | attempt 2 |
| 08:11.15 | Vilkku | any ideas? |
| 08:12.04 | Fisker | how did the first attempt go? |
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| 08:13.51 | tekkub | Cairenn |
| 08:13.57 | tekkub | I hate to be the one to break it to you |
| 08:14.02 | tekkub | your new avatar is crap |
| 08:14.21 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.21 | Vilkku | Fisker |
| 08:14.22 | Cairenn | sighs at dolby |
| 08:14.29 | haste | I agree with tekkub |
| 08:14.45 | Wobin | Did Iiiii doo thaaat? |
| 08:14.45 | Adys | link? |
| 08:14.47 | Wobin | http://www.wowinterface.com/community.php |
| 08:14.47 | Vilkku | I managed to spoof the download page thinging I had and N95 by switching the user agent on my computer |
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| 08:14.53 | dolby | why would you use that avatar Cairenn ? |
| 08:14.55 | Fisker | o/o haste |
| 08:15.01 | Vilkku | so I got to a download link, but it was only for a .jab file (think .toc) |
| 08:15.11 | Fisker | ".jad" |
| 08:15.12 | Fisker | also |
| 08:15.15 | Fisker | l2text |
| 08:15.21 | Adys | gonna agree with tekk there |
| 08:15.23 | Adys | horrible |
| 08:15.25 | Fisker | Or renamed the the link from .jad to .jar |
| 08:15.28 | Fisker | rename* |
| 08:15.29 | Vilkku | Fisker, l2text? =( |
| 08:15.33 | Fisker | yes |
| 08:15.34 | Vilkku | Fisker, did that |
| 08:15.36 | Adys | someone please tell me there is some better way to do this |
| 08:15.37 | Fisker | you can read a toc |
| 08:15.43 | Adys | function bool(arg) if not arg or arg == 0 or arg == {} then return false end return true end |
| 08:15.43 | Fisker | then you're doing it wrong Vilkku |
| 08:16.00 | Vilkku | have you actually done it yourself, Fisker? |
| 08:16.04 | Fisker | yes |
| 08:16.11 | Vilkku | for an unsupported phone? |
| 08:16.13 | Fisker | yes |
| 08:16.18 | Vilkku | and it works? |
| 08:16.27 | Vilkku | =( |
| 08:16.38 | Fisker | l2p :3 |
| 08:16.42 | Vilkku | well, mind telling me how you did it, now that you have humiliated my failure |
| 08:16.53 | Vilkku | well, me rather |
| 08:16.56 | Vilkku | due to my failure |
| 08:16.56 | Fisker | i just told you |
| 08:17.11 | krka_ | function bool(arg) return arg and arg ~= 0 and (type(arg) ~= "table" or next(arg) ~= nil) end |
| 08:17.24 | Vilkku | I bet texting is some us only option |
| 08:17.31 | krka_ | also Adys: arg == {} will NEVER ever be true |
| 08:17.36 | krka_ | no matter how you define arg |
| 08:17.47 | Adys | I was wondering why it was throwing me a true yeah |
| 08:17.55 | haste | Adys: == {} will never be true |
| 08:18.08 | Adys | urslo |
| 08:18.08 | krka_ | i'm guessing haste has me on ignore for some reason :/ |
| 08:18.10 | Fisker | Vilkku by "l2text" i meant that .jad was just a text file |
| 08:18.21 | haste | krka_: no, I just returned and saw that line :p |
| 08:18.25 | Vilkku | oh, well yeah I figured that much out |
| 08:18.32 | Fisker | Anyways what happens when you try to download the .jar? |
| 08:18.33 | haste | krka_: your answer was absorbed by trash talk |
| 08:18.41 | krka_ | also, if you're going for a php-style bool-operator, you may want to check for empty string too |
| 08:18.54 | Adys | phpstyle? |
| 08:18.55 | Vilkku | Fisker, it downloads fine but when I open it it's actually just the webpage with a different extension |
| 08:18.56 | haste | php :( |
| 08:18.57 | Adys | you mad |
| 08:19.04 | Adys | this is python style |
| 08:19.13 | krka_ | your function bool() looked a bit like it atleast |
| 08:19.24 | Adys | PYTHON I SAID |
| 08:19.32 | haste | PHP!? |
| 08:19.48 | Fisker | what does the webpage say Vilkku ? |
| 08:19.57 | Adys | I just want to deal with crap like repairs = bool(CanMerchantRepair()) |
| 08:20.00 | Vilkku | it's the one with the download link |
| 08:20.06 | Vilkku | I'm gonna try it again now |
| 08:20.08 | Vilkku | and see what happens |
| 08:20.33 | Arrowmaster | you probably need to spoof the referrer too |
| 08:20.35 | Fisker | just gonna check if mine still works |
| 08:20.44 | Fisker | maybe they changed it :P |
| 08:20.45 | haste | !api CanMerchantRepair |
| 08:20.46 | lua_bot | CanMerchantRepair: Returns whether the vendor with whom the player is currently interacting can repair equipment (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CanMerchantRepair) |
| 08:20.55 | krka_ | Adys: it's too hard to do: if CanMerchantRepair() then ... or local bool = CanMerchantRepair() == 1 ? |
| 08:21.13 | Fisker | damn |
| 08:21.16 | haste | I don't see why you would need a bol function for that :p |
| 08:21.19 | Adys | when you have to do it for 50 different functions, yes |
| 08:21.20 | Fisker | my download page was removed |
| 08:21.22 | krka_ | or even local bool = not not CanMerchantRepair() |
| 08:21.42 | krka_ | you're saying that the blizzard api is that inconsistent? |
| 08:21.44 | haste | ITC: Making Lua like language X |
| 08:21.54 | Adys | its consistent |
| 08:22.06 | Adys | but im porting this to json, then to sql through python |
| 08:22.10 | krka_ | imo, it seems silly to make generic bool function for that case |
| 08:22.21 | Adys | again, its not one case |
| 08:22.28 | Adys | if it were i wouldnt even convert it :P |
| 08:23.30 | Fisker | slaps Vilkku around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:23.35 | Vilkku | Fisker |
| 08:23.40 | Vilkku | this is what I did just now |
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| 08:23.59 | Vilkku | paid for it, got download url, changed user agent to match phone, went to url |
| 08:24.05 | Vilkku | url has link to .jad |
| 08:24.14 | Vilkku | in jad there is a like |
| 08:24.16 | Vilkku | line |
| 08:24.16 | Vilkku | MIDlet-Jar-URL: blizzard_mobile_auth_EU_BMA_240x320_N95_1_0_0.jar |
| 08:24.36 | Fisker | yeah |
| 08:24.46 | Vilkku | so |
| 08:24.58 | Vilkku | I put that to the end of the url |
| 08:25.02 | Vilkku | and it still sends me to the same page |
| 08:25.24 | Fisker | you put it after <random string> and not after the .jad right? :P |
| 08:25.30 | Vilkku | yes ofc -_- |
| 08:25.31 | jnwhiteh | Any suggestions: http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=usb+headset&x=0&y=0 |
| 08:26.00 | Vilkku | Fisker: http://wap.bizmobil.com/download/xxx/blizzard_mobile_auth_EU_BMA_240x320_N95_1_0_0.jar |
| 08:26.02 | Adys | suggestion: dont go for usb if you can |
| 08:26.06 | jnwhiteh | Adys: why? |
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| 08:26.18 | jnwhiteh | I actually need USB in this case since my netbook's mic port doesn't work |
| 08:26.23 | jnwhiteh | on osx |
| 08:26.30 | Adys | its an "if you can" situation |
| 08:26.34 | Vilkku | that should work, right? :P |
| 08:26.39 | Adys | I got an usb headset, its really good |
| 08:26.44 | Adys | but it took me days to get it working |
| 08:26.46 | jnwhiteh | Adys: i've not heard many bad things about USB |
| 08:26.51 | Fisker | What do you use for your n95 user agent Vilkku ? |
| 08:26.58 | Adys | then i had driver problems because it wasnt calibrated correctly |
| 08:26.58 | jnwhiteh | ah, well i'm not concerned about that. |
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| 08:27.09 | Vilkku | Fisker: Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.2; U; Series60/3.1 NokiaN95/10.0.018; Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 ) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/413 |
| 08:27.58 | Vilkku | the download page believes it because it doesn't say "your phone is not supported" |
| 08:27.59 | Vilkku | but! |
| 08:28.20 | Vilkku | how do you view wml files? I got some extension called wmlbrowser for firefox |
| 08:28.44 | Fisker | i just view them in plaintext |
| 08:28.45 | Arrowmaster | its just a bastardized html |
| 08:29.20 | Vilkku | gonna disable it and see what happens |
| 08:29.41 | Fisker | You could try: SonyEricssonK750i/R1A Browser/SEMC-Browser/4.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 |
| 08:29.45 | Fisker | That's the one that worked for me |
| 08:29.54 | Vilkku | suppose |
| 08:29.58 | Vilkku | if I get a correct version :P |
| 08:30.11 | krka_ | bastardized html? really? |
| 08:30.21 | Vilkku | disabled my extension, put in the .jar url, downloaded, it's still just the wlm file of the download page |
| 08:30.24 | Fisker | well besides for a shittier wallpaper it shouldn't matter i believe |
| 08:30.47 | krka_ | wml doesn't seem that much like html imo |
| 08:30.58 | jnwhiteh | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Plantronics-Audio-655USB-Digital-Headset/dp/B001W85SGK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1248337723&sr=1-1 maybe? |
| 08:31.40 | krka_ | well it shares a subset of html, but it also includes a lot of own new stuff like <card> |
| 08:31.46 | Fisker | opens up a can of farts on jnwhiteh |
| 08:32.34 | Arrowmaster | fine bastardized xml |
| 08:32.36 | Arrowmaster | happy? |
| 08:33.07 | Adys | if its valid xml, it cant be bastardized |
| 08:33.14 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 08:33.18 | Adys | then it sucks ass |
| 08:33.22 | Arrowmaster | ok bastardized SGML |
| 08:33.24 | Arrowmaster | happy? |
| 08:33.29 | Adys | happy happy |
| 08:33.35 | krka_ | hmm, not sure what's invalid about it |
| 08:33.53 | Arrowmaster | its a bastardized format |
| 08:34.05 | Arrowmaster | thats not needed anymore |
| 08:34.45 | Vilkku | Fisker: bingo, jackpot! |
| 08:34.54 | Arrowmaster | it was only useful in the past due to data transfer limits, but now thats not an issue |
| 08:35.29 | krka_ | i am curious as to what part of the xml spec wml doesn't adhere to |
| 08:35.45 | krka_ | but yeah, wap and wml is a technological dead end |
| 08:35.56 | Arrowmaster | html4 doesnt adhere to the xml spec |
| 08:36.07 | Vilkku | Fisker: it workssssssssssssssssss |
| 08:36.08 | krka_ | sure, i know that |
| 08:36.12 | krka_ | html is a sgml-variant |
| 08:36.36 | Arrowmaster | werent wap and wml from before xml/xhtml became mainstream for usage? |
| 08:36.36 | krka_ | but wml seems to be xml-based with some tags similar to xhtml |
| 08:36.48 | krka_ | xml has been around a long time |
| 08:36.55 | krka_ | might be earlier than xhtml i suppose |
| 08:37.01 | Arrowmaster | it was |
| 08:37.12 | Arrowmaster | but it didnt get used for web stuff until xhtml |
| 08:37.30 | Arrowmaster | and still nobody uses xml except blizzard it seems |
| 08:37.33 | theorbtwo | xml is quite certianly older then xhtml. |
| 08:37.45 | Arrowmaster | duh |
| 08:37.49 | Adys | rss is also older than xhtml |
| 08:38.19 | Arrowmaster | which rss? theres like 3 or 5 |
| 08:38.28 | theorbtwo | Arrowmaster: All of them. |
| 08:39.20 | Arrowmaster | no i think one of them is newer than xhtml |
| 08:39.32 | theorbtwo | Oh, sorry. |
| 08:39.56 | theorbtwo | All of the rsses are newer then xml. Not all of the rsses are older then xml. |
| 08:40.00 | Arrowmaster | but theres like rss/rdf like 0.9, 1.0, 2.0 |
| 08:40.06 | theorbtwo | Gah. |
| 08:40.18 | theorbtwo | shuts up before he makes more of a fool of himself. |
| 08:40.22 | theorbtwo | Time for more tea. |
| 08:40.23 | Arrowmaster | and they all still get fucking used |
| 08:41.43 | Vilkku | Fisker, does it always have to connect, or is it just the first time? Also, it claims it's not getting reception =/ Did you get it on a nokia as well? |
| 08:41.57 | Fisker | i don't use nokia |
| 08:42.01 | Fisker | it suxors >:3 |
| 08:42.05 | Vilkku | ownsors |
| 08:42.10 | Fisker | suxors |
| 08:42.20 | Fisker | anyways you tell me |
| 08:42.21 | Fisker | cause mine works |
| 08:42.23 | Fisker | yours doesn't |
| 08:42.24 | Fisker | nanana |
| 08:42.29 | Vilkku | in any case, suppose there might be some compability issues |
| 08:42.43 | Fisker | well do you have any kind of data plan? :P |
| 08:42.51 | Vilkku | eh |
| 08:42.55 | Vilkku | not a data plan |
| 08:43.01 | Vilkku | but data transfer is included in every plan |
| 08:43.17 | Fisker | alright |
| 08:43.17 | Vilkku | tried wlan as well :P |
| 08:43.17 | Fisker | Because it would need internets to work |
| 08:43.18 | Fisker | weird |
| 08:43.27 | Fisker | should work with wlan definitely |
| 08:43.28 | Vilkku | Fisker, all the times or just the first time when it sets it up? |
| 08:43.39 | Fisker | http://www.microemu.org/ <-try checking if it works there |
| 08:43.46 | Fisker | just the first time |
| 08:43.51 | Fisker | it needs to sync with blizzard |
| 08:44.00 | Fisker | and then it'll work until it gets out of sync again |
| 08:44.05 | Arrowmaster | it does? |
| 08:44.14 | Fisker | ? |
| 08:44.29 | Arrowmaster | if it needs to sync then they sure arent using rsa |
| 08:44.56 | Vilkku | I don't have any clue how to use that, Fisker :P |
| 08:45.03 | Arrowmaster | those sync themselves as you use them, the server records the time drift of every unit |
| 08:45.33 | Fisker | idk etc. |
| 08:49.22 | Vilkku | well |
| 08:49.28 | Vilkku | I suppose the servers might actually be busy |
| 08:49.40 | Vilkku | or that I should at least use a nokia version :P |
| 08:50.16 | Fisker | probably that |
| 08:50.28 | Fisker | maybe try to find some other supported nokia devices and use their useragents |
| 08:50.57 | Vilkku | yes |
| 08:51.01 | Vilkku | actually, interesting thing |
| 08:51.10 | Vilkku | I looked up other phones with the same OS as mine |
| 08:51.24 | Vilkku | (found out that the n95 uses a slightly older one) |
| 08:51.29 | Vilkku | and none of them are supported :P |
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| 08:54.03 | Fisker | oh lol |
| 08:54.09 | Fisker | i just got my order confirmation of Windows 7 |
| 08:54.15 | Fisker | except i was told i would get it like a week ago |
| 08:54.16 | Fisker | hoho |
| 08:55.50 | Adys | Uh |
| 08:55.54 | Adys | What's a Timeout table? |
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| 09:04.20 | Adys | ok its just aceconsole being bad |
| 09:05.10 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 09:05.12 | jnwhiteh | amazon prime |
| 09:05.14 | jnwhiteh | i'll give it a shot. |
| 09:05.15 | Adys | http://pastey.net/118000 |
| 09:05.22 | jnwhiteh | tho i'm not sure its much worth it in the UK |
| 09:05.27 | Adys | does this look bad or usable |
| 09:05.30 | jnwhiteh | if its bought through amazon its here in 2-3 days anyway. |
| 09:05.41 | jnwhiteh | and prime doesn't affect marketplace purchases. |
| 09:05.58 | Adys | btw jnwhiteh dunno if you saw what i said above |
| 09:06.06 | Adys | was thinking of making a wowprogramming kate plugin |
| 09:06.20 | jnwhiteh | sure, let me know how i can help. |
| 09:06.34 | jnwhiteh | although the markup is pretty regular, I can save you a lot of time :P |
| 09:06.57 | Adys | well if I do pull stuff it'll prolly be something like 1line desc+list of args |
| 09:07.19 | Adys | the only thing is |
| 09:07.37 | Adys | its probably better if its on a very trimmed down page |
| 09:08.12 | jnwhiteh | i'd rather generate the files for you |
| 09:08.17 | jnwhiteh | its much easier for both of us |
| 09:08.42 | Adys | dont worry about it, I was thinking of doing that, that means maybe in the next couple of months :P |
| 09:08.46 | Adys | too busy with the db atm |
| 09:08.50 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 09:08.58 | Adys | any opinion about that pastey? |
| 09:10.22 | Adys | which is lacking data actually |
| 09:12.57 | jnwhiteh | it doesnt make sense to me |
| 09:13.02 | jnwhiteh | so i dont know how to tell you if its usable. |
| 09:13.12 | jnwhiteh | Anyone here familiar with creating omni completion plugins for vim7? |
| 09:13.20 | Adys | Im going to save a LOT of data like that |
| 09:13.27 | Adys | I wont read it much, but its still stored |
| 09:13.44 | Adys | is it .. sane to actually save it like that, or should I compress it, or modify it somewhat |
| 09:14.02 | jnwhiteh | how much data are you having? |
| 09:14.10 | Adys | fucktons |
| 09:14.19 | Adys | this is from a single npc |
| 09:14.21 | jnwhiteh | then you are better off storing it in another way |
| 09:14.30 | jnwhiteh | consideringn right now, all of the data is the same |
| 09:14.34 | Adys | Im serializing it to json outside of the game |
| 09:14.35 | jnwhiteh | and you're going to use 80,000 tables. |
| 09:14.45 | jnwhiteh | also |
| 09:14.51 | jnwhiteh | why is it in array format |
| 09:15.00 | jnwhiteh | are you going to have a record for every single number from 1 to n? |
| 09:15.14 | Adys | Yes |
| 09:16.01 | jnwhiteh | you might be better off storing everything as strings |
| 09:16.03 | jnwhiteh | or numbers |
| 09:16.07 | jnwhiteh | depending on what data is there. |
| 09:16.13 | Adys | example? |
| 09:16.16 | Wobin | and if it's structured the same |
| 09:16.22 | Wobin | 12:33:2333:3 |
| 09:16.38 | Adys | some of it I need to access ingame |
| 09:16.42 | Wobin | ignore having a human readable structure |
| 09:16.47 | Wobin | have a look at PeriodicTable |
| 09:17.28 | Adys | for example sec |
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| 09:19.15 | Adys | sorry |
| 09:20.10 | Adys | er yeah, for example I might need to access an item's limitedquantity |
| 09:20.44 | Adys | maybe its better storing it as duplicate and sorting it outside the game? |
| 09:21.37 | Wobin | if you have a set structure for each item that's the same for each item, then you can compress it down to a string representation with field delimiters |
| 09:21.56 | Wobin | that will reduce the storage size, and the number of tables you'll need |
| 09:22.04 | Wobin | to just a string manipulation instead |
| 09:22.23 | Wobin | which you can also compress |
| 09:23.00 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 09:23.02 | Adys | yeha ok i see |
| 09:23.03 | jnwhiteh | you write an accessor function |
| 09:23.06 | jnwhiteh | that's all |
| 09:23.34 | Adys | funny thing.. i wrote a similar addon a year ago, I was using that method but i stopped doing so because it felt hacky |
| 09:25.07 | Wobin | well it -is- hacky in a way, in that you're not using the supplied structures available to store your data |
| 09:25.27 | Wobin | but it's not a bad thing =) |
| 09:26.03 | Wobin | it also makes it relatively simple to parse outside of the game |
| 09:26.15 | Adys | its serialized to json anyway |
| 09:27.45 | jnwhiteh | LightHeaded does this |
| 09:27.57 | jnwhiteh | using \030 and \031 as field and record separators |
| 09:28.30 | Adys | should i really separate records too? |
| 09:29.24 | Adys | I mean |
| 09:29.46 | Adys | isn't it gonna be slower ingame to expand the table, access the key and replace it/compare it? |
| 09:30.14 | jnwhiteh | what do you mean "expand the table"? |
| 09:30.24 | Adys | Ok for example |
| 09:30.24 | jnwhiteh | i'm not saying your should separate records |
| 09:30.30 | jnwhiteh | in fact, you're likely to have some manner of duplicates |
| 09:30.35 | jnwhiteh | if your data is any indication |
| 09:30.41 | jnwhiteh | I was just saying it can be done |
| 09:30.43 | jnwhiteh | its not difficult |
| 09:30.50 | jnwhiteh | and you'll avoid the memory issues that other methods bring. |
| 09:31.09 | Adys | Yeah but for example, Im storing health data for NPCs every mouseover |
| 09:31.27 | jnwhiteh | .. only if you don't already have the data, I hope. |
| 09:31.37 | Adys | Yes |
| 09:31.44 | Adys | once per id, per level |
| 09:32.03 | jnwhiteh | alright |
| 09:32.09 | jnwhiteh | the update function is a simple gsub |
| 09:32.27 | jnwhiteh | or a concat, alternatively |
| 09:32.59 | Adys | you said you are using that in LH? |
| 09:33.18 | jnwhiteh | i don't construct data in LH, but yes. |
| 09:33.25 | jnwhiteh | in a number of different ways |
| 09:33.52 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:33.53 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:34.55 | Adys | Ya I see. i was thinking you still wanted one single string for that |
| 09:35.21 | jnwhiteh | you _can_ do that |
| 09:35.28 | Adys | is it wise tho? |
| 09:35.31 | jnwhiteh | for example, a mapping from item id to ,rice |
| 09:35.41 | jnwhiteh | depends on the application |
| 09:36.08 | Adys | if Im going to do that it could get around 100000 chars easily |
| 09:36.13 | jnwhiteh | so? |
| 09:36.27 | jnwhiteh | you shouldn't do _ONE SINGLE STRING_ |
| 09:36.33 | jnwhiteh | unless you're doing a simple mapping of x to y |
| 09:36.44 | Adys | Yeah theres more than that |
| 09:36.52 | Adys | well, depends really but in most cases its more |
| 09:37.08 | jnwhiteh | do whats easy first |
| 09:37.19 | jnwhiteh | no need to complicate it until there's a problem. |
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| 09:38.11 | Adys | I was thinking about having structures stored in a separate file for different fields |
| 09:38.31 | jnwhiteh | augustl: did you always go by that name here? |
| 09:38.38 | jnwhiteh | Adys: why does having a diff file help you? |
| 09:38.45 | augustl | jnwhiteh: I used to be leethal, how come? |
| 09:38.52 | jnwhiteh | _thought_ so |
| 09:39.05 | Adys | thats just a convenience so I can use the same one in my serializer |
| 09:39.06 | jnwhiteh | i couldn't map from twitter id -> wowui id :P |
| 09:39.06 | augustl | jnwhiteh: :) |
| 09:39.09 | jnwhiteh | Adys: sure |
| 09:39.13 | augustl | jnwhiteh: ah, right, twitter, I see |
| 09:39.52 | augustl | Are there any GUI frameworks out there in the wild? Getting tired of manually rolling all my GUI code, especially when I'm used to the relative ease of HTML/CSS. |
| 09:40.13 | jnwhiteh | depends on what you want to accomplish |
| 09:40.16 | jnwhiteh | are you talking config GUI? |
| 09:40.19 | jnwhiteh | if so, there's a few |
| 09:40.23 | augustl | haven't been very active in the wow mod author scene the last couple of years, so if there is some kind of revolution available these days, I would have missed it ;) |
| 09:41.10 | augustl | no, not really a config GUI, just GUI's in general |
| 09:41.10 | jnwhiteh | no real revolution |
| 09:41.10 | jnwhiteh | nope |
| 09:41.10 | jnwhiteh | i mean you can use AceGUI |
| 09:41.10 | jnwhiteh | but that's likely overkill |
| 09:41.10 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:41.10 | jnwhiteh | which is why people tend not to use (or roll their own) convenience funcs. |
| 09:41.16 | augustl | Having a vertical list, for example, is kind of tedious |
| 09:41.31 | jnwhiteh | how so? |
| 09:41.34 | augustl | you have to manually check the height of the previous item, check if it's the first item so that it aligns to it's container and not the previous item, and so on |
| 09:41.52 | jnwhiteh | ah but something like that doesn't generalize |
| 09:41.57 | augustl | which results in a lot of extra code, making the gui code kind of hard to read and maintain |
| 09:41.58 | jnwhiteh | which is why there's no general slution |
| 09:42.07 | jnwhiteh | it doesn't have to be |
| 09:42.15 | jnwhiteh | implementing FSF's with constant height is easy |
| 09:42.31 | jnwhiteh | I haven't done variable height because its too complex for what I gain |
| 09:42.59 | Adys | jnwhiteh: last question. I suppose I'm going to create a compress() function, should I create a table and pass it to compress, or pass a struct and values |
| 09:43.03 | augustl | say I want to create a definition list type thing, I'd have to write a whop-load of frame alignment code |
| 09:43.06 | Adys | actually i answered that in my question |
| 09:43.16 | jnwhiteh | Adys: I'd say don't do any of that right now |
| 09:43.28 | jnwhiteh | augustl: definition list? whats the application here? |
| 09:43.29 | Adys | Im using a "wrapper" atm |
| 09:43.32 | augustl | I'll probably roll my own addon specific abstractions, then, since that's what people do |
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| 09:43.53 | jnwhiteh | well the problem is that a general library is "bloated" |
| 09:43.55 | augustl | jnwhiteh: a "average: xxxx | max: xxxx | type: xxxx" kind of list |
| 09:44.10 | jnwhiteh | and too focused of a library isn't useful |
| 09:44.21 | augustl | good point |
| 09:44.26 | jnwhiteh | augustl: vertically listed, as in an <ol> or something similar? |
| 09:44.39 | jnwhiteh | or horizontally? |
| 09:44.42 | augustl | in HTML I'd use a <dl> list |
| 09:44.53 | Adys | jnwhiteh: http://pastebin.com/d56461ea8 - Some of it needs design cleanup, but basically look at smUpdateData/SM_DATA:update |
| 09:44.57 | jnwhiteh | alright, then I don't see why you need lots of code |
| 09:45.36 | jnwhiteh | for idx,row in ipairs(rows) do if idx ==1 then row:SetPoint("RELATIVETOFRAME) else row:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", row[idx-1], "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, -5) end end |
| 09:46.40 | augustl | true, perhaps the real problem is that I tend to mess up my own code by copy/pasting instead of abstracting =P |
| 09:46.50 | jnwhiteh | think simple, and things end up working out okay |
| 09:47.00 | jnwhiteh | I implement things like this all the time, it's a very common pattern |
| 09:47.10 | jnwhiteh | if you think of each definition as a row, it's pretty simple |
| 09:47.24 | jnwhiteh | same deal with tabular data |
| 09:47.34 | jnwhiteh | each row contains columns of fonstrings, and then you just anchor the rows |
| 09:48.09 | jnwhiteh | I prefer XML for the template definitions, because it makes the Lua code so much nicer. |
| 09:48.18 | augustl | starts looking around for a sensible code editor for his windoze box |
| 09:48.18 | jnwhiteh | especially if you use the parentKey attribute. |
| 09:48.32 | augustl | jnwhiteh: hmm, interesting, perhaps I should try to use XML instead of Lua for GUIs |
| 09:48.41 | jnwhiteh | augustl: vim |
| 09:48.48 | jnwhiteh | you don't want to use XML _completely_ for GUIS |
| 09:48.55 | jnwhiteh | you lose the ability to create things on-demand that way |
| 09:49.04 | jnwhiteh | but using a mix of XML and Lua you get quite a bit of power |
| 09:49.20 | jnwhiteh | really depends on your needs |
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| 10:25.50 | Wobin | http://news.ninemsn.com.au/glance/840836/invisible-man-wows-with-amazing-art |
| 10:27.55 | Adys | ~ping |
| 10:27.56 | purl | ~pong |
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| 10:32.49 | haste | Wobin: number five is awesome :D |
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| 11:07.07 | Fisker | hey Wobin |
| 11:07.09 | Fisker | it's getting hot in here |
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| 11:08.15 | Fisker | THIS IS MY RAGE FACE |
| 11:09.06 | Wobin | It looks like your stupid face |
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| 11:09.40 | jnwhiteh | Fisker's no fun.. he takes too long to rejoin =( |
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| 11:10.15 | Fisker | oh no it doesn't Wobin |
| 11:10.21 | Fisker | it's so awesome |
| 11:10.30 | Fisker | so you have this supersuperlong filename |
| 11:10.31 | Adys | lua> "0xF1300083720023A2":sub(6, 12) |
| 11:10.32 | lua_bot | Adys: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '"0xF1300083720023A2"' |
| 11:10.33 | Fisker | and it's on a CD |
| 11:10.47 | Fisker | and for some reason Microsoft decided you can't copy/paste the filename |
| 11:10.52 | Adys | lua> c="0xF1300083720023A2"; c:sub(6, 12) |
| 11:10.52 | lua_bot | Adys: No output |
| 11:10.57 | Adys | lua> c="0xF1300083720023A2"; return c:sub(6, 12) |
| 11:10.57 | lua_bot | Adys: 0008372 |
| 11:11.05 | Adys | this doesnt sound right |
| 11:11.17 | Adys | oh, of course |
| 11:11.26 | Adys | lua> c="0xF1300083720023A2"; return tonumber(c:sub(6, 12),16) |
| 11:11.26 | lua_bot | Adys: 33650 |
| 11:12.24 | Adys | >>> c = "0xF1300083720023A2"; int(c[6:12], 16) |
| 11:12.25 | Adys | 33650 |
| 11:12.29 | Adys | \o/ |
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| 12:07.32 | mikma | torhal: has the hiding changed in some way? cause, it's not working properly |
| 12:07.41 | mikma | wobin: ^-- solution for this? |
| 12:08.41 | Wobin | hiding? |
| 12:09.39 | mikma | yeah |
| 12:09.57 | mikma | when the mouse leaves the tooltip it doesn't hide |
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| 12:28.36 | Adys | jnwhiteh: http://pastebin.com/d68f6fd10 =) |
| 12:29.14 | Adys | not even 50 lines of code |
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| 12:34.06 | mikma | adys: what's that? :) |
| 12:35.01 | Adys | a kickass abstraction |
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| 12:44.39 | Adys | mikma: http://pastebin.com/d46d505de |
| 12:47.25 | mikma | now, get the names of vendors and items! |
| 12:47.55 | Adys | mikma: easy |
| 12:48.23 | Adys | mikma: without touching anything ingame I import my wdbc parser and just check on keys :) |
| 12:48.39 | Adys | or, even better |
| 12:48.46 | Adys | I import django's abstraction |
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| 12:50.20 | TopTop18 | Eey! |
| 12:50.35 | Adys | hahahah oh this is gonna kick ass. |
| 12:50.40 | mikma | quite interesting how my friend reacted on the info i told him about how to play against retardings |
| 12:50.53 | mikma | "well, oh, well, gl" |
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| 12:55.59 | Aelobin | for druids, is spirit more for boomkins and mp5 for trees? |
| 12:56.04 | Aelobin | if you had to choose them one way round |
| 12:56.06 | Adys | mikma: http://pastebin.com/d192ef7be |
| 12:56.11 | TopTop18 | Yes |
| 12:56.35 | foxlit | I can't see how you'd come to that conclusion. |
| 12:56.53 | mikma | adys: oooooh! just the list i need |
| 12:57.04 | Adys | you want a list? |
| 12:57.07 | Adys | I can make you one in 10 sec |
| 12:57.17 | mikma | well.. |
| 12:57.20 | TopTop18 | Although spirit is not that important for doomkins either, only if you ahve mana problems, and you should have that, cause innervate |
| 12:57.25 | mikma | a list of jc patterns sold by vendors |
| 12:57.39 | Adys | blah |
| 12:57.40 | mikma | that's the one i'm keeping my eyes on in databases ^^ |
| 12:57.44 | Adys | theres 3 distant npcs |
| 12:57.47 | Adys | but er |
| 12:57.54 | Adys | I can get you that in a day directly on the db |
| 12:58.12 | mikma | no need :) |
| 12:58.21 | mikma | use your skills on something more important imho |
| 12:58.32 | Adys | no, I mean |
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| 12:58.36 | Adys | I dont have to code anything here |
| 12:58.38 | Adys | the whole backend is there |
| 12:59.09 | Adys | mikma: http://db.mmo-champion.com/items/9/10/?sold_by__isnull=0 |
| 12:59.12 | Adys | keep an eye on this url :) |
| 12:59.21 | Adys | tomorrow or something it'll be valid |
| 13:00.23 | mikma | oh, hehe, bookmarking |
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| 13:12.32 | bluspacecow | oh hai guys |
| 13:12.48 | bluspacecow | pulling apart this crash report : http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18696993136&sid=1 |
| 13:13.12 | bluspacecow | any of these symbols/ function names look familiar guys ? |
| 13:13.13 | bluspacecow | Thread 21 0x0000bd0b |
| 13:13.14 | bluspacecow | 0 0x1d0a3e0e <unknown> |
| 13:13.14 | bluspacecow | 1 0x153ef0dc <unknown> |
| 13:13.14 | bluspacecow | 2 0x13b98950 _gldGetTextureLevel + 1008032 |
| 13:13.14 | bluspacecow | 3 0x13b98cf0 _gldGetTextureLevel + 1008960 |
| 13:13.15 | bluspacecow | 4 0x13a969ce _gldUpdateDispatch + 654 |
| 13:13.17 | bluspacecow | 5 0x138f1873 _gleDrawArraysOrElements_Exec + 2307 |
| 13:13.19 | bluspacecow | 6 0x13975dec _glDrawElements_STD_Exec + 124 |
| 13:13.21 | bluspacecow | 7 0x13976119 _glDrawElements_UnpackThread + 105 |
| 13:13.23 | bluspacecow | 8 0x139a1e4e _glAddLargeCommand_UnpackThread + 30 |
| 13:13.25 | bluspacecow | 9 0x139a1c9f _gleCmdProcessor + 255 |
| 13:13.27 | mikma | oh great |
| 13:13.27 | bluspacecow | 10 0x96ec3155 __pthread_start + 321 |
| 13:13.29 | bluspacecow | 11 0x96ec3012 _thread_start + 34 |
| 13:13.32 | mikma | why don't you spam the shit here |
| 13:13.35 | Lopeppeppy | Stop spamming it in here. |
| 13:13.37 | bluspacecow | sorry :D |
| 13:13.37 | TopTop18 | Please use pastey.net |
| 13:13.42 | Lopeppeppy | You posted a link, we can look there, okay? Geez. |
| 13:13.43 | bluspacecow | oh right |
| 13:13.49 | Adys | WoWBuild: 19947 |
| 13:13.51 | Adys | What ? |
| 13:14.02 | mikma | bluspacecow: disable Cast Circle or Cast Ring, whatever |
| 13:14.03 | bluspacecow | whats a good pasty site |
| 13:14.09 | Adys | [16:13:37] <TopTop18> Please use pastey.net |
| 13:14.10 | Lopeppeppy | Read the channel topic. |
| 13:14.24 | TopTop18 | just pastey.net is good :D |
| 13:14.38 | mikma | hahahaha |
| 13:14.45 | bluspacecow | http://pastey.net/118011 |
| 13:14.50 | mikma | that's timing.. my game crashed while i was checking out your crash |
| 13:14.55 | Adys | gfg |
| 13:15.05 | bluspacecow | Adys : macs use build numbers of 1xxxx |
| 13:15.16 | Adys | LOL |
| 13:15.28 | Adys | well thats gonna suck in a few thousand builds |
| 13:15.31 | Lopeppeppy | Did you delete your WTF folder as well, a corrupt saved variable file could be the issue. Until you've deleted both Interface and WTF folders, it can't be shown that an addon is NOT causing the problem. |
| 13:15.38 | bluspacecow | hey its not for me |
| 13:15.45 | bluspacecow | some guy on the forums getting that error |
| 13:16.01 | bluspacecow | according to him hes zapped interface wtf and cache already |
| 13:16.17 | bluspacecow | they look like OpenGl commands to me |
| 13:16.29 | Lopeppeppy | No, he said that he did NOT delete the interface folder. |
| 13:16.50 | bluspacecow | it's probably a memory leak from QuestHelper |
| 13:17.09 | Lopeppeppy | Until he really actually does do that, how's it proven not to be a problem with QH? Exactly. |
| 13:17.09 | Lopeppeppy | Tell him to actually DO as suggested and come back. |
| 13:17.11 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 13:17.14 | bluspacecow | "also I didnt delete the interface folder because it happens no matter what, I got rid of the mod and it still crashes." |
| 13:17.29 | bluspacecow | no he doesnt say he did *delete* the Interface folder |
| 13:17.36 | bluspacecow | just that "he got rid of it" |
| 13:18.25 | bluspacecow | expection address is at the start of memory too |
| 13:18.28 | krka | renaming it should be enough |
| 13:20.06 | ZorbaBeta | it's probably a hardware issue, honestly |
| 13:20.52 | ZorbaBeta | if I was getting even semi-common QH crashes, I'd know about it by now, and I'm not. last report was over a month ago. (barring streaming trial client, which I assume he's not using) |
| 13:21.10 | bluspacecow | doesn't appear to be |
| 13:21.20 | bluspacecow | i'll just tell him to test his memory :D |
| 13:21.49 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't notice, did his report say what version of QH he was running? Could be ancient. |
| 13:21.52 | ZorbaBeta | I'd bet on memory, fragged OS, or just a bad WoW install. Maybe there's some corrupted texture and whenever a dude in T7 walks past, his client melts |
| 13:22.04 | ZorbaBeta | oh, wait, here's proof it's not a memory leka |
| 13:22.06 | ZorbaBeta | "Total lua memory: 23337KB " |
| 13:22.10 | bluspacecow | well that pastey above mentioned textures |
| 13:22.22 | bluspacecow | hows that prove it zorba ? |
| 13:22.38 | ZorbaBeta | if it was crashing after a mere 23m of Lua memory usage, he'd have bigger issues on his hands. |
| 13:23.01 | ZorbaBeta | I regularly play with 100mb, 200mb if I've got QH doing debug instrumentation. 23m isn't anywhere near crash level. |
| 13:23.21 | Adys | sadface. |
| 13:23.27 | Lopeppeppy | verysadface |
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| 13:24.03 | bluspacecow | dons a wig of long blond hair and starts air guitarring to "Don't Cry" |
| 13:24.49 | ZorbaBeta | I'd blame it on graphics drivers or corrupted textures, personally. |
| 13:25.17 | bluspacecow | well if he was me i would be lucky as i take a backup of the entire wow folder regulary |
| 13:25.36 | bluspacecow | if its graphic drivers hes out of luck ... Apple are kinda slow in updating those |
| 13:27.26 | ZorbaBeta | (or flaky hardware, 'cause it could always be flaky hardware) |
| 13:27.56 | alestane | Those errors are NOT add-on related. |
| 13:28.24 | bluspacecow | nope |
| 13:28.33 | bluspacecow | didnt say they were :D |
| 13:28.45 | Adys | http://json.luaforge.net/ is this still decent? |
| 13:28.50 | Adys | its not been updated for 3 years |
| 13:28.53 | Adys | and half |
| 13:31.26 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, I've used up a third of my vacation already. Bogus, dude. |
| 13:31.45 | mikma | adys: hey, how can i find a list of debuffs that happen when player uses some sort of "omgmegaspell" on himself? (Forbearance, Hypothermia, etc) |
| 13:31.48 | bluspacecow | *casts Extend Vacation spell* |
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| 13:32.14 | Adys | mikma: my spell models arent evolved enough to get you that yet |
| 13:32.23 | mikma | adys: oh poop :I |
| 13:32.35 | Adys | and tbh i think this is serverside stuff |
| 13:33.01 | mikma | yeah, cause i cant find the info when i look ie. Divine Shield |
| 13:33.07 | mikma | it doesn't tell me it causes Forbeadance |
| 13:33.11 | mikma | rance* |
| 13:33.39 | Adys | it must be reverse relation |
| 13:33.52 | Adys | the game knows when you cannot cast iceblock/ds etc because you are debuffed |
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| 13:34.28 | TopTop18 | What is the right path to MiniMap-TrackingBorder? As local visible = getupdatestexture:SetTexture("Blizzard Interface Art (enGB)\Minimap\MiniMap-TrackingBorder") makes visible nil :( |
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| 13:35.24 | mikma | toptop18: Interface\\Minimap\\MiniMap-TrackingBorder |
| 13:35.56 | TopTop18 | Doubvle slashes? |
| 13:35.59 | mikma | yes |
| 13:36.19 | TopTop18 | Why's that? |
| 13:36.45 | bluspacecow | idk it needs it |
| 13:36.46 | mikma | because i say so! |
| 13:37.11 | TopTop18 | xD Okay |
| 13:37.13 | bluspacecow | might be cause they have to escape the back slashs or something |
| 13:37.16 | mikma | the \ is escape character |
| 13:37.17 | dardack | the \ prolly means something, so the \\ says use a \ for the path |
| 13:37.27 | TopTop18 | Ah okay |
| 13:37.31 | dardack | kinda like when you need to use a % sign |
| 13:37.35 | dardack | in text |
| 13:38.32 | dardack | sigh another zg reset, prlly no mounts again |
| 13:38.57 | TopTop18 | Yay it returns 1 now :D Only nothing is displayed :S *Goes triple checking code* |
| 13:39.10 | bluspacecow | i wannt da turtle pm ! |
| 13:39.22 | dardack | turtle took me like 3.5k fishes from pools |
| 13:39.31 | dardack | and i got it while fishing for dragonfin for my raid buff food |
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| 13:39.43 | dardack | wasn't even farming for it, had kinda put it on back burner |
| 13:39.52 | TopTop18 | Oh lol, maybe I got to anchor the texture first xD |
| 13:40.09 | bluspacecow | hai Torhal |
| 13:40.12 | TopTop18 | and size it xD |
| 13:40.35 | alestane | You could also use [[long brackets]] which escape everything: [[Blizzard Interface Art (enGB)\Minimap\MiniMap-TrackingBorder]] |
| 13:40.38 | mikma | torhal_: hey you! |
| 13:41.40 | Kraps | http://xkcd.com/612/ |
| 13:41.40 | dardack | i can't even step in strat right now, took me 273 runs after the buff (almost 400 before) to get on my shaman, and i've already done it 70 times on my new main DK, but i'm so sick of it have a hard time gong in there even with the new shrotcut they put in so it takes like 25 minutes for 5 runs |
| 13:41.43 | mikma | dardack: what new shortcut? :I |
| 13:41.52 | dardack | step on boxes removes doors, just kill baron nothing else |
| 13:42.04 | Adys | Maldivia: ping |
| 13:42.05 | dardack | it musta been intentional cause it never was that way before |
| 13:42.17 | mikma | .. what boxes, where, tell me! |
| 13:42.19 | dardack | so i don't consider it exploiting a bug |
| 13:42.27 | dardack | my guildmate put up a youtube of it |
| 13:42.37 | dardack | search for beaux baron door boxes |
| 13:42.39 | bluspacecow | kraps : LOLZ |
| 13:42.40 | dardack | hang on |
| 13:43.30 | jnwhiteh | dardack: no results. |
| 13:43.45 | jnwhiteh | but baron door boxes shows it. |
| 13:43.53 | dardack | oh nvm he does it under mertox |
| 13:43.56 | dardack | i forget |
| 13:44.02 | bluspacecow | http://wow.mmoui.com/downloads/info12523-Nonce.html |
| 13:44.04 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 13:44.10 | dardack | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVIK1J5U4EM |
| 13:44.18 | mikma | dardack: thanks! |
| 13:44.36 | Kraps | bluspacecow: whoa |
| 13:44.48 | dardack | yea i know you can only reset instance 5 times per hour, but say you only have 30 minutes, or you wanna do something else, you can burn off 5 runs in like 20-25 minutes |
| 13:45.11 | dardack | and the mount does drop this way my dk friend just got it 2 days ago |
| 13:45.14 | dardack | after i showed him how |
| 13:45.48 | dardack | bluspacecow: why lolz i kinda like that heh |
| 13:46.06 | bluspacecow | cause its a problem i often have |
| 13:46.08 | dardack | oh and mikma he doesn't show that you can actually make those 2 gates where the bugs come disappear also |
| 13:46.13 | bluspacecow | being in the wrong pres. on my DK |
| 13:46.15 | dardack | me too |
| 13:46.17 | bluspacecow | wrong spec too |
| 13:46.20 | bluspacecow | wrong gear set too |
| 13:46.23 | dardack | or after levi |
| 13:46.30 | dardack | i forget to swap out reg gear for my high level gear |
| 13:46.39 | bluspacecow | <------------ totally incomptent DK |
| 13:46.44 | dardack | or i'll hit unholy to walk faster |
| 13:46.46 | dardack | after wipe |
| 13:46.47 | bluspacecow | i press 3 buttons and things fall down dead ! |
| 13:46.51 | dardack | and forget to put frost back on if i'm tanking |
| 13:46.55 | dardack | or blood if i'm dps'ing |
| 13:47.03 | Lopeppeppy | Now they need to do it so that I remember to swap off my riding aura... |
| 13:47.36 | dardack | also mikma i think he shows actually clicking the boxes, you don't need to just walk close to them |
| 13:47.47 | dardack | so they break, you don't need to open the second box that is under the first box that breaks |
| 13:47.55 | dardack | the key is the boxes that break that have a second box under them |
| 13:48.09 | dardack | those open a door, it even removes the gates for the old portal to naxx, but nothign happens now |
| 13:49.11 | mikma | let's see |
| 13:50.18 | Kraps | dardack: and this isnt an expliot? |
| 13:51.17 | dardack | Kraps: i don't know 100%, but it didn't do it before, but after patch 3.0(something) they put this in, now there was ntohing changed to the old instances that i could ever tell, so i figure they put it in there on purpuse to speed up the farming runs that people were using up instance ID's for |
| 13:51.43 | mikma | basicly, just open boxes near gates? |
| 13:51.52 | dardack | i jsut walk near them over them |
| 13:51.55 | dardack | they auto break open |
| 13:52.10 | dardack | don't need to open the second box that is spawned underneath the first one |
| 13:52.25 | dardack | cause i ran strat 400 times before the patch that buffed the droprate |
| 13:52.29 | dardack | and there was never doubleboxes |
| 13:52.32 | dardack | that removed gates/doors |
| 13:52.36 | dardack | but now there is |
| 13:52.53 | alestane | *snark* |
| 13:52.56 | alestane | *DISCLAIMER - all code provided after 3PM and before 10AM may be complete bollocks, and no quality is assured. Any code produced on Fridays in particular is "before the weekend" quality code and may contain alcohol inspired functions and comments. Author has recently been having to do way too much Java and C# for his own good* |
| 13:53.07 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet, alestane. |
| 13:53.35 | alestane | I love the bit about "may contain alcohol-inspired functions and comments". |
| 13:55.44 | Lopeppeppy | delicious |
| 13:56.49 | mikma | oh look, it really works ^^ |
| 13:56.52 | mikma | dardack: thanks! |
| 13:57.16 | dardack | well i guess it is considered an exploit in wow europte no blue has responded in us forums http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=9446286287&sid=1 but the thing is it's so hard not to trigger them by accident if your avoiding patrols |
| 13:59.53 | dardack | but i don't think they woudl ban you, since they have known about this for a few months and haven't hot fixed by removing the boxes |
| 13:59.56 | Kraps | someone open a us ticket |
| 14:00.18 | dardack | no i don't want to be on their radar |
| 14:00.28 | Kraps | ... |
| 14:00.30 | dardack | heh |
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| 14:00.38 | dardack | i never talk to a GM about anything |
| 14:00.58 | dardack | plus the wait time |
| 14:01.01 | dardack | ridiculous |
| 14:01.05 | bluspacecow | you wont appear if you're not wearing pants |
| 14:01.53 | Kraps | ... thats kind of like not getting a ss number cuz you dont want to be on the gvmnts radar |
| 14:02.26 | bluspacecow | but its fun wearing no pants ! |
| 14:02.31 | bluspacecow | *wipes pants off* |
| 14:02.32 | dardack | yea i wish i didn't have an SS number kraps |
| 14:02.46 | bluspacecow | actually no |
| 14:02.50 | bluspacecow | too cold for no pants :( |
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| 14:02.58 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Beladona] by ChanServ |
| 14:03.00 | dardack | i only have a bank account cause i need a cc for online purchases, not cash |
| 14:03.04 | mikma | beladona: fix wowcompares! |
| 14:03.06 | Kraps | dardack: but you do, and its against the law to nnot have one |
| 14:03.19 | dardack | actually i don't believe it's against the law to not have one |
| 14:03.23 | dardack | if you never get one |
| 14:03.26 | Beladona | mikma: it isn't broken |
| 14:03.30 | Beladona | its being worked on |
| 14:03.33 | mikma | beladona: 'what's broken?' -> you can't click the files :D |
| 14:03.39 | Beladona | have you read my portal at ALL? |
| 14:03.50 | mikma | .. you have a PROTAL!??!1 |
| 14:03.56 | Beladona | beladona.wowinterface.com |
| 14:04.28 | mikma | hah! |
| 14:04.39 | mikma | might be better idea to report this in wowcompares.. |
| 14:04.49 | Beladona | bear in mind I have a kid to watch while my wife works, and I am going to school |
| 14:04.57 | Beladona | AND job hunting |
| 14:05.06 | Beladona | so its going as fast as it can |
| 14:05.12 | bluspacecow | oh hai Beladona |
| 14:05.23 | Beladona | hi |
| 14:06.08 | Beladona | good news is I have an interview for a job I really want nest thursday, so wish me luc |
| 14:06.43 | bluspacecow | "maria's not an asset to the abbbeey" |
| 14:06.44 | mikma | beladona: well have someone cool help you! |
| 14:06.57 | bluspacecow | ..... |
| 14:07.06 | bluspacecow | just tried to answer a thread on the european forums |
| 14:07.08 | bluspacecow | fail ! |
| 14:07.17 | Beladona | I have drafted my sister-in-law to watch my son today, so I can get stuff done |
| 14:07.20 | Beladona | =P |
| 14:07.56 | Lopeppeppy | Huzzah for sister-critters, Beladona. |
| 14:08.28 | Beladona | I am paying her |
| 14:08.30 | Beladona | lol |
| 14:08.40 | Lopeppeppy | Bribery is a time-honored tradition. |
| 14:08.51 | Elkano | greetings Beladona :) |
| 14:09.06 | dardack | i wish you luck Beladona i know how that is going to schoool having a kid wife and finding a job |
| 14:09.28 | Beladona | its not fun |
| 14:09.34 | Beladona | going to be even worse if I get this job |
| 14:09.35 | dardack | luckily for me 1 week before graduation i got a job offer that started 4 days after graduation |
| 14:09.41 | Beladona | because then classes will be at night |
| 14:09.43 | dardack | a nice job offer i mean |
| 14:09.49 | dardack | i was working a bank teller job for a long time |
| 14:10.04 | dardack | which isn't bad just barely any pay |
| 14:10.32 | Beladona | apparently the county school board here is really slow with their hiring process. I applied a month ago, and they are just now beginning interviews |
| 14:10.47 | Kraps | "school board" |
| 14:10.55 | Kraps | "slow" |
| 14:10.56 | krka | "hiring process" |
| 14:11.10 | Beladona | ok, slow with everything |
| 14:11.55 | Lopeppeppy | That's a board of education for ya, beladona. |
| 14:12.55 | Kraps | i wish all my toons were 80 |
| 14:13.08 | Lopeppeppy | I wish I had a cookies. |
| 14:13.18 | Lopeppeppy | I am starving, rawr and stuff.... |
| 14:13.26 | A-KO | hey dardack |
| 14:13.27 | Beladona | cereal makes a great alternative imo |
| 14:13.33 | dardack | yo? |
| 14:13.53 | dardack | A-KO: what? |
| 14:13.56 | Lopeppeppy | had some of that for breakfast, Beladona. Trying to ponder a nice filling lunch, might run out for Chinese... |
| 14:13.58 | A-KO | it looks like blizzard changed that mount farming thing--and they added a SPECIAL "Stratholme Supply Crate" to the back right of that abom room....opening all the magistrate boxes didn't open the gates, but opening that box did. |
| 14:14.05 | A-KO | so it's intentional :P not an exploit |
| 14:14.27 | dardack | that's what i was thinking |
| 14:14.36 | dardack | but the blue post in the europe forums says otherwise |
| 14:14.49 | Kraps | misinformed? |
| 14:14.54 | dardack | maybe |
| 14:15.05 | dardack | i just figure they must of put it in there on purpose |
| 14:15.25 | dardack | i'm gonna keep doing it cause i don't have a lot of time to do it and i hate ti |
| 14:15.57 | dardack | after 700+ runs |
| 14:19.32 | mikma | torhal_: i can't get the Ribbon to hide properly when mouse leaves the tooltip now |
| 14:19.42 | mikma | torhal_: get back to me when you wake up from your coma |
| 14:22.01 | bluspacecow | Disturbed remix of Land of Confusion rocks ! |
| 14:22.27 | bluspacecow | _|oL |
| 14:24.43 | Kraps | woot new headset |
| 14:25.19 | dardack | OMG |
| 14:25.21 | dardack | finally |
| 14:25.38 | dardack | raptor droped |
| 14:25.47 | dardack | sorry every 3 days running zg since i've been 80 |
| 14:25.54 | bluspacecow | yay |
| 14:26.02 | dardack | just whew it does exist you know heh |
| 14:26.03 | Lukian | wow |
| 14:26.07 | Lukian | long time :> |
| 14:26.53 | dardack | yea well my /played since 80 is like 40 something days |
| 14:27.33 | dardack | i'm kinda digging this hybrid blood dps spec, but still think DRW is best dps, it's just in ulduar 25 last nite my dps was about the same as DRW so i don't know |
| 14:28.14 | dardack | ok i dont' get this |
| 14:28.26 | Kraps | shaman wear mail ya? |
| 14:29.03 | dardack | yea at 40 |
| 14:29.42 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.30 | dardack | can someone look at http://wowuidev.pastey.net/118015 and tell me why my pet mod procs on a new companion learned but my mount mod doesn;'t? |
| 14:31.58 | bluspacecow | ..... |
| 14:32.06 | bluspacecow | i feel like a vegemite sammich |
| 14:32.09 | bluspacecow | BRB |
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| 14:33.56 | dardack | anyone look at that pastey ? it's bugging the heck out of me |
| 14:34.02 | dardack | that my mount mod won't auto reseed |
| 14:41.05 | alestane | You overwrote the mount responder? |
| 14:41.18 | alestane | Oh,lnope, different frame. |
| 14:42.48 | mikma | dardack: oh ffs |
| 14:42.57 | dardack | ffs? |
| 14:43.00 | mikma | dardack: i made a script for myself that tells me how long it takes to kill baron |
| 14:43.13 | dardack | nice how long? |
| 14:43.30 | dardack | yea alestane the pet ressed function fires bhe mount one doesn't |
| 14:43.46 | dardack | i can not figure it out |
| 14:43.54 | mikma | dardack: well, i didn't have time to test it actually... reloading UI reseted the instance entering time |
| 14:44.00 | mikma | dardack: http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072309_174229.jpg |
| 14:44.06 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Skullcrusher&n=Radiatingcow |
| 14:44.09 | bluspacecow | weird name |
| 14:44.17 | mikma | dardack: so basicly ... useless ^^ |
| 14:44.23 | alestane | dardack: Did you do any event tracing? |
| 14:44.29 | dardack | tacing? |
| 14:45.53 | alestane | Still a component of DevTools until the patch hits, but DevTools has a /dtevents command that lists events as they fire, so you can make sure that "COMPANION_LEARNED actually fires for new mounts or not. |
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| 14:46.34 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info3999-DevTools.html |
| 14:46.35 | dardack | it does cause pet's reseed |
| 14:46.44 | dardack | when i learn a new mount |
| 14:46.56 | dardack | i don't do checking to see if it was a pet/mount at this time |
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| 14:47.14 | foxlit | is MountRandomMount_Reseed nil at the time you call SetScript? |
| 14:47.45 | foxlit | (/run print(MRMMainFrame:GetScript("OnEvent")); |
| 14:48.27 | alestane | I'd say you need to check your seeding functions, yes, which aren't in the pastey. |
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| 14:49.14 | dardack | it is nil |
| 14:49.23 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXVbVuXkz8g <-you rage you lose |
| 14:49.28 | dardack | what does that mean? |
| 14:50.05 | alestane | dardack: Then you've messed something up in your definitions...either you're not declaring your reseed function until after that code runs, or you have the name wrong. |
| 14:50.14 | alestane | Remember that Lua is case-sensitive. |
| 14:50.25 | dardack | yea i know here i'll post the pastey of the function |
| 14:50.32 | dardack | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/118017 |
| 14:51.11 | alestane | If the event script is nil, the content of the function is irrelevant. |
| 14:51.21 | dardack | ok |
| 14:51.35 | dardack | so what do you mean by declaring before the code runs? |
| 14:51.49 | dardack | it's in the same spot on my petramdompet addon |
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| 14:53.22 | mikma | [17:53:00] Baron Rivendare killed at 1248360780 |
| 14:53.22 | mikma | [17:53:00] run lasted: 4m 54s |
| 14:53.25 | mikma | dardack: ^----- |
| 14:53.29 | dardack | nice man |
| 14:53.46 | foxlit | "1248360780" |
| 14:53.52 | foxlit | ... |
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| 14:54.24 | mikma | foxlit: yes, it's time() |
| 14:54.50 | foxlit | I don't see why you'd want to display that. |
| 14:55.05 | foxlit | with GetGameTime and all |
| 14:55.06 | mikma | debug |
| 14:55.20 | dardack | ok i moved where the mount_reseed function from my .lua to my _GUI.lua file and now it works |
| 14:55.21 | mikma | not like i need this script anymore :I |
| 14:55.23 | alestane | Right before the SetScript call in your mount mod, try adding "print(MountRandomMount_Reseed)" |
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| 14:57.28 | dardack | ok if i move the function back to the regular .lua file it prints nil |
| 14:58.10 | dardack | i think i figured it out |
| 14:58.23 | dardack | testing right now |
| 14:59.08 | dardack | i had the .lua under the _GUI.lua in the toc file |
| 14:59.19 | dardack | and the _GUI is where the setscript is run from |
| 14:59.36 | dardack | but in petrandompet the .lua was declaredbefore the _GUI.lua one |
| 14:59.38 | dardack | thanks |
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| 15:00.27 | Kraps | the dow is OVER 9000! |
| 15:04.48 | Ackis | http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090723/boc_economy_090723/20090723/?hub=EdmontonHome |
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| 15:11.04 | cog|away | :'( http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleashed/2009/07/gidget-taco-bell-chihuahua-dog-dies.html |
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| 15:14.04 | mikma | foxlit: [18:13:27] Baron Rivendare killed! Run lasted: 4m 22s BETTER NOW?!?! |
| 15:14.10 | zeheres | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14130-LUI1680x1050.html does anyone of you guys know the author of this compilation? |
| 15:15.47 | DWSR | That's pretty sexy |
| 15:15.56 | zeheres | right |
| 15:16.03 | zeheres | i need some kgpanels script to be adjusted |
| 15:16.10 | zeheres | just cant manage to do that by myself |
| 15:16.35 | DWSR | mikma: I just finished a Naxx last night where we had enough DPS to burn Thane down in 45 seconds. |
| 15:16.47 | Slafsinator | Nice, a premade UI that doesn't reek of dog crap |
| 15:16.49 | DWSR | mikma: It just makes the fight so....easy? |
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| 15:17.27 | mikma | dwsr: this is normal lvl60 stratholme baron run |
| 15:17.38 | DWSR | ah |
| 15:17.55 | DWSR | Lulz, we owned Naxx25 last night. :) |
| 15:18.20 | DWSR | Gluth gained over 1.5m in health from zombs and we still killed him with 3 minutes left on the enrage time /flex. :) |
| 15:19.38 | TopTop18 | Anyone here has knowledge of GIMP? |
| 15:19.53 | Torhal | mikma: I keel joo. |
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| 15:20.29 | mikma | torhal: yay. |
| 15:20.30 | mikma | [18:20:10] Baron Rivendare killed! Run lasted: 4m 11s |
| 15:20.34 | mikma | getting better ^^ |
| 15:20.46 | mikma | torhal: the ribbon frame won't hide now properly. why? |
| 15:21.04 | DWSR | anyone here have a good reason to switch to DBM from BigWigs? |
| 15:21.18 | Torhal | mikma: No idea, but your OnEnter/Leave code is highly confusing. |
| 15:21.23 | TopTop18 | More people use DBM->Easier explanation of tacts |
| 15:21.26 | Torhal | And I'm still in a coma. |
| 15:21.31 | mikma | torhal: it's how you showed me :D |
| 15:21.34 | tem|work | wow |
| 15:21.34 | tem|work | http://imgur.com/8RYcU.jpg |
| 15:21.39 | DWSR | TopTop18: Other than that? |
| 15:22.05 | TopTop18 | I think it's better |
| 15:22.08 | Torhal | mikma: More like it's based on how I showed you. :) Lemme wake up more and I'll lookee. |
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| 15:22.27 | TopTop18 | Less right onto your screen, it allows you to focus on the battle mroe then on abrs |
| 15:23.00 | mikma | torhal: has some coffee, it always works |
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| 15:25.15 | dardack | just hit exalted with ZG and no tiger mount sigh |
| 15:25.51 | dardack | oh and note to self don't pop army on tiger boss cause they spawn near the other adds and 4 axe throwers=I DIE fast |
| 15:26.13 | alestane | You didn't clear the room, just ran back to the boss? |
| 15:27.18 | mikma | hah. |
| 15:27.27 | mikma | [18:27:11] Baron Rivendare killed! Run lasted: 4m 0s :D |
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| 15:28.35 | tem|work | dardack: around what time did you realize that AotD was the lamest gimmic ability you've ever had? |
| 15:28.45 | tem|work | was it before or after the axe-thrower permastun? |
| 15:28.46 | dardack | ai like AoTD |
| 15:28.59 | dardack | i use it on XT at 76% |
| 15:29.05 | dardack | on kolo before we go in 5 second count |
| 15:29.11 | Fisker | why are you exploiting mikma ? |
| 15:29.19 | dardack | it's not exploiting |
| 15:29.25 | tem|work | mikma: woah how'd you get it that short? |
| 15:29.30 | tem|work | my best runs were ~10m |
| 15:29.32 | dardack | hey that's mine |
| 15:29.33 | Fisker | he's exploiting |
| 15:29.33 | dardack | heh |
| 15:29.36 | dardack | the boxes |
| 15:29.37 | tem|work | (including running out of the instance) |
| 15:29.47 | dardack | i think they put the boxes in there on purpose |
| 15:29.51 | Fisker | no |
| 15:29.55 | alestane | Didn't someone link a blue post calling this an exploit earlier? |
| 15:29.57 | mikma | tem|work: dardack did show me a youtube that reveals the secret |
| 15:30.01 | dardack | [10:13]<A-KO>it looks like blizzard changed that mount farming thing--and they added a SPECIAL "Stratholme Supply Crate" to the back right of that abom room....opening all the magistrate boxes didn't open the gates, but opening that box did. |
| 15:30.01 | Fisker | they put it there so the GM's could unstuck you if the event was bugged |
| 15:30.01 | tem|work | what boxes? |
| 15:30.02 | dardack | [10:14]<A-KO>so it's intentional :P not an exploit |
| 15:30.25 | dardack | i don't know |
| 15:30.39 | dardack | certain supply crates are double boxes |
| 15:30.43 | dardack | and will remove doors/gates in strat |
| 15:30.49 | tem|work | oh my |
| 15:31.51 | dardack | i don't know alls i know is before the buff i ran strat 400+ times and it never happened, now i found it by accident |
| 15:31.58 | dardack | i kept avoiding mobs and running over boxes |
| 15:32.02 | dardack | and doors/gates would be opened |
| 15:32.05 | dardack | so i was like hmmm |
| 15:32.19 | dardack | after the patch that buffed the drop rate that is |
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| 15:34.12 | mikma | hah. even shorter |
| 15:34.20 | mikma | 3:55 |
| 15:34.35 | dardack | yea once you get good at it 5 runs takes like 20 minutes total |
| 15:35.01 | Fisker | if you're exploiting that is |
| 15:35.19 | cog|work | slaps Fisker around with a large exploit |
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| 15:36.42 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:37.06 | tem|work | and then you're screwed because you're out in the middle of nowhere and can't do another run for 40 minutes |
| 15:37.12 | tem|work | but that's okay |
| 15:37.15 | tem|work | I have the baron mount |
| 15:37.18 | tem|work | and 2 runeblades |
| 15:37.23 | tem|work | so I'm not worried about it |
| 15:37.35 | cog|work | slaps Fisker around with a large albacore |
| 15:37.43 | tem|work | my only regret is those two swords aren't on a fury warrior |
| 15:38.14 | dardack | well i'm gonna keep doing it, cause between 2 toons almost 1k runs i'm sick of it |
| 15:38.29 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:38.41 | Fisker | what toons do you play on dardack ? |
| 15:38.49 | cog|work | pokes Fisker in the macro |
| 15:39.01 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:39.24 | dardack | why want to report me? |
| 15:39.28 | Fisker | yes |
| 15:39.36 | Fisker | i mean no |
| 15:40.39 | Torhal | mikma: Ok....what do you mean by "properly"? |
| 15:41.25 | mikma | torhal: ok, when mouse leaves LDB (and doesnt mouseover the tooltip) the tooltip hides properly. but when the mouse leave the tooltip, it doesnt hide at all |
| 15:42.31 | dardack | fine report me, doofensmirtz you could also look up my mods and look at my screenshots to get it so it's not like i keep it private |
| 15:42.55 | mikma | dardack: let him troll, he's the best at it |
| 15:42.58 | dardack | tem|work: yea but see i use it for the times when i only have 30 minutes to play |
| 15:43.18 | dardack | i don't have as much time to play as i used to |
| 15:43.52 | dardack | getting closer to 100 mounts tho |
| 15:44.20 | Fisker | indeed mikma |
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| 15:54.55 | Torhal | mikma: http://paste.wowace.com/877/ <-- Foo. |
| 15:55.21 | Torhal | If you make me code while sleeping ever again, Fisker will more than likely rage. |
| 15:56.43 | mikma | torhal: he'll rage anyway |
| 15:56.51 | mikma | so, lose lose |
| 15:56.59 | Torhal | mikma: Damn you. I was trying to correct that behavior... |
| 15:57.08 | Torhal | Now he'll never learn! |
| 15:57.19 | mikma | untrainable i tell you! |
| 15:58.00 | Torhal | mikma: BTW: I made it so that the tooltip won't show if the editbox is visible - in case that's not how you wanted it to work. |
| 15:58.31 | Torhal | And clicking the icon will hide the editbox |
| 15:58.49 | mikma | let's see! |
| 16:01.01 | mikma | torhal: oh it works perfectly now. thanks alot :) |
| 16:01.07 | Torhal | np |
| 16:01.15 | mikma | good example for other addons when i need to mod them ^^ |
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| 16:01.33 | Torhal | :D |
| 16:01.40 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 16:01.43 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072309_184807.jpg |
| 16:01.50 | mikma | that's always funny when it happens |
| 16:12.33 | kneeki | Anyone have any suggestions for a company name that involves: Videos, Sharing, Casting (like a web cast), Memories? |
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| 16:15.04 | Lopeppeppy | That's just way too many concepts, keeki |
| 16:15.13 | kneeki | I know... |
| 16:15.19 | kneeki | I'm drawing a blank |
| 16:15.30 | Lopeppeppy | Pick the two most important ones, start there. |
| 16:15.33 | kneeki | Would I would really like, is something that doesn't 'tie' it to anything in paticular |
| 16:15.40 | kneeki | kind of like 'Pandora' |
| 16:17.13 | alestane | Something Album. |
| 16:17.40 | alestane | What the Something is doesn't matter so much. |
| 16:17.49 | kneeki | Album huh? |
| 16:18.44 | DWSR | Memcast. |
| 16:19.25 | mikma | kneeki: surprise corporation |
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| 16:21.08 | cog|work | Expandeo |
| 16:21.23 | Lopeppeppy | Presto |
| 16:21.50 | kneeki | The catch to these, is that the domain has to be available as well (or at least squtted on, to be purchased) |
| 16:22.13 | Lopeppeppy | Now you're getting impossible with conditionals! :P |
| 16:22.17 | kneeki | rofl! |
| 16:22.23 | kneeki | It's extreamly frustrating |
| 16:22.57 | mikma | bananaboys |
| 16:23.01 | kneeki | I tried a few 'company name generator' sites, and nearly every single thing had it's domain snatched up already |
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| 16:23.22 | alestane | Or a bogus variation on a word, like "Albumada.com". |
| 16:23.34 | kneeki | alestane: I like that idea |
| 16:23.46 | kneeki | I'll be damned |
| 16:23.49 | kneeki | Albumada.com is available |
| 16:23.51 | kneeki | lol |
| 16:24.01 | durcyn | not for long. |
| 16:24.05 | kneeki | rofl |
| 16:24.13 | alestane | Sort of like all the stores that use names like "Kountry Kupboard." |
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| 16:24.37 | cog|work | Kountry Kupboard Kollectibles |
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| 16:25.18 | Cralor` | isn't the runes BB FF UU ? |
| 16:25.21 | alestane | Sort of "Album" + "Armada", but it manages to have that "catchiness" which is so critical to good branding. |
| 16:25.34 | kneeki | Seriously. I think someone went through and registered every name in greek myth |
| 16:25.38 | alestane | Cralor`: That's the usual order. |
| 16:25.56 | Cralor` | d'oh I've been putting them BB UU FF heh |
| 16:26.54 | Cralor` | is there currently a place where I can get copy of FrameXML |
| 16:28.42 | durcyn | http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/tree |
| 16:28.46 | durcyn | Cralor`: ^ |
| 16:29.05 | Cralor` | thanks much |
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| 16:33.46 | alestane | How is a supply create "Not in line of sight"?! |
| 16:34.34 | zeheres | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw29328.jpg what's that addon between those two quartz bars? |
| 16:35.24 | Slafsinator | CoolLine or something |
| 16:35.59 | Slafsinator | ForteXorcist has the same thing too |
| 16:36.12 | zeheres | alright |
| 16:36.16 | zeheres | thanks |
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| 16:39.09 | Zinzu | hey everyone |
| 16:39.17 | A-KO | yo |
| 16:40.58 | Kraps | my brain hurts http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=109981&p=1255726 |
| 16:43.36 | nicoli_s | wow, they are trying pretty hard to troll |
| 16:43.53 | Lopeppeppy | It's been done already though, boring. |
| 16:49.26 | Cralor` | would this work? "and DB.value ~= "0" or "7" |
| 16:50.03 | Cralor` | or would i need to do "and DB.value ~= "0" and DB.value ~= "7""? |
| 16:50.19 | Lopeppeppy | Youtube is... crawling this afternoon, what's up with that? |
| 16:50.38 | alestane | Cralor`: If what you wan is to find out if DB.value is either "0" |
| 16:50.47 | alestane | ...or it is "7", than the latter, |
| 16:51.16 | Cralor` | well I want to have an IF then that will only run if value is NOT 0 or 7 |
| 16:52.11 | Cide | if not (DB.value == "0" or DB.value == "7") |
| 16:52.11 | Thunder_Child | at the very least if raimi is directing the WoW movies we should get some campbell action. |
| 16:52.12 | Cide | imo. |
| 16:52.18 | alestane | What he said. |
| 16:56.28 | WobWork | this ^ |
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| 16:59.03 | Cralor` | Cide: gotcha. thanks |
| 16:59.21 | Cide | (they're both equivalent) |
| 17:00.36 | Cide | (http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=discrete+mathematics) |
| 17:01.29 | alestane | The other option you have, which isn't really worth it for two cases, would be 'if not {["0"] = true, ["7"]= true}[DB.value] then' but that has its own issues. |
| 17:03.42 | Bruners | haste: is the server down? |
| 17:05.09 | jnwhiteh | I have 3 more HoN beta invites |
| 17:05.15 | jnwhiteh | shoot me a PM with your email if you'd like one |
| 17:06.57 | mikma | what's HoN |
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| 17:09.27 | jnwhiteh | standalone DoTA |
| 17:09.34 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, on digg but whatever: http://h.imagehost.org/0347/samurai.jpg |
| 17:10.28 | mikma | http://www.riemurasia.net/jylppy/albumit/m00/640602204.jpg |
| 17:10.36 | Bruners | haste: meh, just iptables being funky |
| 17:11.00 | mikma | jnwhiteh: that sounds interesting, altho, haven't played dota :D |
| 17:13.00 | Bruners | jnwhiteh: why is the cordinateblock in tomtom moving around all the time? |
| 17:13.16 | jnwhiteh | Bruners: it isn't for 99% of my users |
| 17:13.18 | jnwhiteh | can you be more specific? |
| 17:13.23 | durcyn | mikma: the graphics are nice, beta client needs a bit of work though |
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| 17:14.02 | Bruners | jnwhiteh: i have it placed on my minimap, and this is the sevent time this week it has changed place for no reason |
| 17:14.08 | Shirik|Berry | Allo |
| 17:14.09 | jnwhiteh | well |
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| 17:14.25 | jnwhiteh | its stored the EXACT same way any other frame that uses the layout cache does. |
| 17:14.29 | jnwhiteh | if you disable tomtom |
| 17:14.31 | jnwhiteh | load up the game without it |
| 17:14.34 | jnwhiteh | and then reload |
| 17:14.36 | jnwhiteh | and re-enable tomtom |
| 17:14.39 | jnwhiteh | it'll reset |
| 17:15.19 | Bruners | jnwhiteh: this means that if i log into my bankchar with no addons enabled it will get reset? |
| 17:15.41 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 17:15.45 | jnwhiteh | per-character |
| 17:15.49 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 17:15.50 | jnwhiteh | actually |
| 17:15.51 | jnwhiteh | i'm not sure |
| 17:16.37 | Bruners | *testing* |
| 17:17.16 | Bruners | jnwhiteh: its per character i guess, so its not that. |
| 17:17.16 | NightHawkTheSane | it is per-char |
| 17:18.57 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: I have 4 extra HoN beta's if you get a lot of requests :P |
| 17:19.15 | jnwhiteh | i have 2 left :P |
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| 17:19.20 | anesthesia | When I open WoW, I always have to agree to the TOS. Anyway to fix this? |
| 17:19.36 | jnwhiteh | change permissions so WoW can write to Config.WTF |
| 17:19.45 | jnwhiteh | tho its bizarre that you would lack that |
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| 17:19.48 | ScytheBlade1 | http://defectiveyeti.com/?p=3736 |
| 17:19.57 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ it should be setting a CVAR in that file so for some reason it cant |
| 17:20.01 | Ackis | anesthesia: http://www.ohesso.com/essays/essay006.htm |
| 17:20.12 | bluspacecow | http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2009/07/apollo-11-missions-40th-anniversary-one.html |
| 17:20.24 | anesthesia | Jn, how would I do that? |
| 17:20.45 | jnwhiteh | anesthesia: I have no idea why you don't have it, so it depends on your OS and setup. |
| 17:21.03 | anesthesia | Windows Vista? |
| 17:21.50 | jnwhiteh | Do you have WoTLK installed? |
| 17:22.09 | anesthesia | No. Just the regular first one. |
| 17:22.20 | anesthesia | I found config.wtf |
| 17:22.25 | jnwhiteh | that is likely your problem |
| 17:22.32 | jnwhiteh | it's in C:\program files\world of warcraft |
| 17:22.32 | bluspacecow | whats the happs anesthetic ? |
| 17:22.38 | jnwhiteh | a place that your user does not have write permission to |
| 17:22.40 | bluspacecow | i mean anesthesia |
| 17:22.49 | Bruners | wasnt that an issue in one of the first releases of wow? |
| 17:22.52 | anesthesia | No JN |
| 17:22.53 | jnwhiteh | I suggest you install World of Warcraft at c:\users\public\games\World of Warcraft |
| 17:22.56 | anesthesia | It is in: C:\Users\Public\Games\World of Warcraft\WTF |
| 17:22.57 | jnwhiteh | Bruners: no, because Vista was not out at that time |
| 17:23.05 | jnwhiteh | anesthesia: oh, then I have absolutely no idea how to help you |
| 17:23.11 | jnwhiteh | you should have write access to the file. |
| 17:23.17 | anesthesia | I thought it being in the public folder would be the problem |
| 17:23.22 | Bruners | jnwhiteh: my bad, it was like that in warhammer |
| 17:23.34 | bluspacecow | Right click the shortcut go properties ? |
| 17:23.42 | anesthesia | shortcut or config.wtf? |
| 17:23.44 | durcyn | anesthesia: doublecheck the NTFS permissions |
| 17:23.49 | anesthesia | NTFS? |
| 17:23.50 | durcyn | anesthesia: on config.wtf |
| 17:23.58 | bluspacecow | put the lime in the coconut and call me in the morning ? |
| 17:24.13 | durcyn | anesthesia: ntfs being the filesystem, yes |
| 17:24.54 | anesthesia | I have allowed everyone to "modify" it in permissions. Will this fix it? |
| 17:26.13 | bluspacecow | try it |
| 17:26.59 | anesthesia | thanks yall. it should work now |
| 17:27.12 | anesthesia | now i gotta find something to do in WoW! ttyl |
| 17:27.29 | bluspacecow | bake me a cake |
| 17:27.48 | Bruners | sweet, new version of ultramon with win7 support! |
| 17:27.54 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, cake. |
| 17:27.55 | anesthesia | whats ultramon? |
| 17:28.23 | anesthesia | nevermind. |
| 17:28.34 | bluspacecow | i really mad digimon |
| 17:31.14 | anesthesia | whats the best alliance lvling guide out right now? |
| 17:32.39 | Pneu^ | ultramon havnt actually made a release since vista |
| 17:32.44 | Lopeppeppy | Tour Guide and TomTom and EveryQuest. |
| 17:32.46 | Pneu^ | they have been betas for like years |
| 17:37.08 | Bruners | Pneu^: most google software never come out of beta |
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| 17:51.34 | cogumel0 | how can I set a point in the center of a frame ? |
| 17:51.46 | ScytheBlade1 | define 'point' |
| 17:52.00 | cbreak | create a texture with the size of one pixel |
| 17:52.04 | cbreak | and put it into the frame |
| 17:52.10 | ScytheBlade1 | !api SetPoint |
| 17:52.10 | lua_bot | Region:SetPoint: Sets an anchor point for the region (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/SetPoint) |
| 17:52.24 | cogumel0 | well, in this case I have a healthbar frame and I want to have the percentage of the current HP written in the middle of in |
| 17:52.29 | Thunder_Child | mikma, you awake yet? |
| 17:52.38 | ScytheBlade1 | So text? |
| 17:52.41 | alestane | Then fontstring:SetPoint("CENTER"). |
| 17:52.44 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 17:52.52 | cogumel0 | but because a 1% occupies less space than a 100%, it can't be static |
| 17:53.03 | cogumel0 | I thought it didn't accept center -.- |
| 17:53.20 | ScytheBlade1 | It accepts any of these: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_types#anchorPoint |
| 17:53.57 | cogumel0 | ahh, k |
| 17:54.34 | cogumel0 | I previously had a look here: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Region_SetPoint |
| 17:54.48 | cogumel0 | where center is not mentioned, so I assumed it wouldn't be accepted (which I found strange) |
| 17:55.43 | cogumel0 | suppose someone forgot to put center on that list :P |
| 17:55.51 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 17:55.54 | cbreak | it's a wiki :) |
| 17:56.05 | cbreak | that means everyone forgot |
| 17:56.35 | mikma | thunder_child: nope |
| 17:57.08 | cogumel0 | well, I thought it was strange... but I know it's a very widely used page and it was modified on the 4th of July this year... so 2 weeks ago... I just assumed it was right, even though I didn't wanna believe it :P |
| 17:57.49 | jnwhiteh | our documentation is typically more up-to-date on what values are valid and such |
| 17:57.55 | jnwhiteh | the exception (Currently) being the combat log revamp |
| 17:58.03 | Lopeppeppy | Documentation is for the weak!!! |
| 17:58.04 | Lopeppeppy | *grin* |
| 17:58.05 | jnwhiteh | which i'll be fixing when i write that chapter |
| 17:58.34 | Bruners | http://xerc.biz/dump.view.php?file=00001834.jpg SFW, but NSFW in previous image |
| 18:01.05 | foxlit | "cogumel0: suppose someone forgot to put center on that list :P" << Actually, some idiot *cough* removed it from that page. |
| 18:05.50 | Fisker | fu Bruners |
| 18:06.01 | mikma | thunder_child: did you need something? :) |
| 18:07.37 | Bruners | Fisker: now what? |
| 18:12.15 | Lopeppeppy | Cog, whyfor are all of my new friend suggestions from you and the Mrs. this week? *laugh* |
| 18:12.26 | Thunder_Child | mikma, i was thinking of questions/suggestions for the addon, any particular place i should do it? |
| 18:12.50 | mikma | thunder_child: popping a normal line for me / jnwhiteh :) |
| 18:13.08 | mikma | thunder_child: i'm the one behind the "eyecandy" and jnwhiteh has made all the cool functions |
| 18:13.08 | Fisker | your link didn't work |
| 18:13.34 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: i don't remember sending any friend suggestions recently... blackout facebooking perhaps? :P |
| 18:13.36 | Thunder_Child | mikma, which one of you does the coloring? |
| 18:13.44 | mikma | thunder_child: me |
| 18:14.18 | Thunder_Child | mikma, the problem is that i dont want to go around suggesting things you already plan on doing |
| 18:15.21 | mikma | thunder_child: only things i have planned, are cutting the server off from playernames (player-the server -> player) and adding some sort of detection if several people have the same buff |
| 18:15.31 | mikma | well, and now i'm coding GUI with different styles :D |
| 18:15.43 | mikma | normal, LibSimpleOptions, and tekkonfig |
| 18:16.45 | Thunder_Child | well looking at the SS, i wonder why the secondary status effects player name are not class colored? |
| 18:17.26 | mikma | thunder_child: this SS http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072309_043837.jpg and last line? |
| 18:17.45 | Thunder_Child | mikma, yes, same http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072309_003659.jpg |
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| 18:18.07 | mikma | the green line is a "GO GO!" indicator :D |
| 18:18.25 | mikma | i just added it in green, haven't thought about it yet |
| 18:18.41 | mikma | but as you can see, there ain't no spellnames anymore |
| 18:18.46 | Thunder_Child | well it would be nice if you color coed things by their effect |
| 18:18.53 | Thunder_Child | code* |
| 18:19.01 | Thunder_Child | or your effect on them |
| 18:19.20 | mikma | example? |
| 18:19.33 | Thunder_Child | eg. if green is for disspelable it should be for anything else |
| 18:19.46 | Thunder_Child | that way when you see green, you know you can dispell something |
| 18:20.02 | mikma | there's only two classes that can "dispel" bubble and iceblock actually |
| 18:20.03 | Thunder_Child | shouldnt* |
| 18:20.20 | Thunder_Child | right, and for the clases that cant, it isnt green |
| 18:20.48 | Thunder_Child | (or whatever color) |
| 18:21.07 | mikma | hmm. then i need to find a way of doing that |
| 18:21.25 | Thunder_Child | it makes it eaiser to focus on the information you need amongst large ammounts |
| 18:21.35 | mikma | [642] = {msg = "|cFFFF0000Immune|r, |cFF00FF00Dispellable|r", class = "PALADIN"} |
| 18:21.39 | mikma | it's like that atm |
| 18:22.02 | mikma | the class is there to limit that the spell won't be checked for any other class (except for mage xD) |
| 18:22.03 | foxlit | psst, dispellable only if you're a priest |
| 18:22.22 | mikma | foxlit: warrior can "dispel" bubble too |
| 18:22.36 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=64382 |
| 18:22.37 | mikma | pew pew |
| 18:22.38 | foxlit | You should take that into account :) |
| 18:23.02 | NeoTron | so anyone tried the Aion beta? |
| 18:23.42 | alestane | For about an hour. |
| 18:23.57 | mikma | [642] = {msg = "|cFFFF0000Immune|r, |cFF00FF00Dispellable|r", class = "PALADIN", dispel1 = "PRIEST", dispel2 = "WARRIOR"} .. |
| 18:24.02 | mikma | something like that perhaps? |
| 18:24.17 | Thunder_Child | you are asking the wrong person |
| 18:24.59 | mikma | i think i'll remove the dispellable color completely, and leave it on the last line |
| 18:25.02 | Thunder_Child | though i figured you would make "|cFF00FF00Dispellable|r" a variable based on your class |
| 18:25.14 | haste | Bruners: ! |
| 18:25.20 | NeoTron | alestane: that bad? :P |
| 18:25.58 | Lopeppeppy | Oh ffs. The Mac half of my office is getting Office 2008 at least a month before the PC half of the office gets it... this is going to be headache in epic proportions. |
| 18:26.21 | alestane | NeoTron: Not the content, but getting the client working took a while. |
| 18:26.23 | cbreak | you mean 2007? Windows users live one year in the past :) |
| 18:26.44 | Lopeppeppy | Email said 2008, I assume they know what box they have in their hands. |
| 18:26.45 | Thunder_Child | no, the next one is 2010 iirc |
| 18:26.51 | Thunder_Child | for windows |
| 18:26.52 | cbreak | the mac version is 2008 |
| 18:26.54 | alestane | The client I downloaded had an issue with its gameguard descriptor file. |
| 18:26.57 | cbreak | the win version 2007 |
| 18:27.15 | Lopeppeppy | Well, we only have win office 2003, so the compatabilities will be sucky. |
| 18:27.53 | Lopeppeppy | Or nonexistent, as the Mac people try to send me shit I can't open. I'm sooooo not excited. |
| 18:28.29 | Thunder_Child | ya, 2010 is the next office |
| 18:28.34 | cbreak | there's a converter for office xp |
| 18:28.42 | cbreak | so it can attempt to read docx and the like |
| 18:28.45 | cbreak | (it's crap though) |
| 18:28.47 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Microsoft has a free update for Office 2003 that opens .docx files and the other 2007 formats. |
| 18:28.49 | cbreak | or the format is crap |
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| 18:29.28 | Lopeppeppy | I shouldn't have to do that, friggin' elves should convert an entire office at once, not half and half... *sigh* |
| 18:30.14 | alestane | I agree that the partial switch is a pain, but I generally found the converter handy to have anyway, for receiving files from outside the office. |
| 18:30.26 | Lopeppeppy | They can send carrier pigeons. |
| 18:30.27 | Lopeppeppy | Grrrr. |
| 18:30.54 | cbreak | they can send .txt |
| 18:30.54 | cbreak | or .tex. or .pdf |
| 18:30.54 | Lopeppeppy | That would be super nice, wouldn't it? |
| 18:30.54 | Coren{de} | stupid question: what's the trick to get wowcompares.com do anything useful? I can click a version, it lists all the files, but none is clickable. :( |
| 18:30.54 | Lopeppeppy | Wonder if I can train all the stupid monkeys to Save As? |
| 18:30.58 | alestane | That's because it's in transition. |
| 18:31.06 | Lopeppeppy | Coren, it's being worked on right now, so you're gonna have those issues. |
| 18:31.15 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Installing the converter will be FAR less work. |
| 18:31.36 | Thunder_Child | unless you can set the save as default somewhere |
| 18:31.39 | cbreak | the conversion is far from good though |
| 18:32.02 | cbreak | just tell the mac users "Save it as doc, not docx, or you'll have to use windows". |
| 18:32.14 | cbreak | they'll be very careful to not let it come that far |
| 18:32.18 | Coren{de} | Oh. I hoped it might be complete... design was changed and I thought it's me forbidding the wrong amount of cookies/scripts/pie/cake/whatever... :D |
| 18:32.21 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, then the elves should be installing it for me. cbreak, if I thought they'd understand that, I would. |
| 18:32.56 | Lopeppeppy | Coren, the site owner is doing Real Life (tm) maintenance as well, so site maintenance will be slower. |
| 18:33.20 | alestane | If you're in a controlled IT environment, tell them they either need to install this stop-gap, or they need to get you on 2007. |
| 18:33.39 | Lopeppeppy | I wish, alestane... *sigh* |
| 18:34.36 | alestane | That it were a controlled environment, or that the elves would listen to a word you say? |
| 18:34.42 | Lopeppeppy | Yes. |
| 18:34.57 | Lopeppeppy | The Mac elf would listen, he's a great guy. The rest? Nope. |
| 18:35.09 | alestane | So what you're really wishing for is that people would be sensible. |
| 18:35.44 | Lopeppeppy | OMG, I know, revolutionary concept. |
| 18:36.00 | alestane | Sadly, yes. |
| 18:36.14 | Coren{de} | It's not an intuitive concept for some... ;) |
| 18:37.47 | Lopeppeppy | I need to get myself to see Harry Potter. Probably Saturday afternoon, yup. |
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| 18:38.03 | alestane | It's always depressing to see the future and know you're going to be saying "I told you so, but would you listen?" |
| 18:38.15 | Lopeppeppy | Cassandra had it hard. |
| 18:38.18 | alestane | I saw Star Trek in IMAX this Monday. Wicked Awesome. |
| 18:38.35 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, I know that feeling, alestane (re: told you so) |
| 18:39.39 | mikma | alestane: /stab |
| 18:39.43 | Coren{de} | Well, be a great man and don't say it. It's not productive or uplifting by any possible means of imagination. It's just mean to say. |
| 18:41.45 | alestane | It's about as depressing to know that at some point in the future you're going to be biting your tongue and trying to be the better person. |
| 18:41.58 | Lopeppeppy | Takes practice, but it can be done. |
| 18:42.48 | Coren{de} | At least you're not depressing the other person by an additional amount... isn't that worth some? ;) |
| 18:43.06 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I'm not? *laugh* |
| 18:43.54 | Coren{de} | If you bite your tongue instead of rubbing it in, I'd say you're not. ~ |
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| 18:44.19 | alestane | I didn't say it can't be done. I just said I hate knowing I'm going to have to, because even if I say something now, I have other things that are more important than spending three days convincing the person I can reach that I know what I'm talking about, and if I eventually reach someone who'll make a decision, it's going to cost too much money to change plans now, so I'll just have to live with it anyway. |
| 18:45.54 | Lopeppeppy | I'm just gonna go home and have leftover chinese and leftover Phish Food. I alerted the other two boss-men that this was a serious incompatibility, we'll see what they do. |
| 18:46.36 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: I told you so is a great way to move up the corporate ladder though, provided you're saying it to all the right people. :) |
| 18:46.43 | Coren{de} | Btw. what incompatibility was the discussion about? :D |
| 18:47.12 | Fisker | fuck you Bruners |
| 18:47.38 | alestane | Actually, if the boss people in question are using Windows on their desktops, just tell them that anyone on a Mac is going to be sending THEM files they can't read. |
| 18:48.05 | DWSR | Coren{de}: Btw. what incompatibility was the discussion about? :D <- this |
| 18:49.27 | Lopeppeppy | I did, alestane, that impressed the Grand Boss to no end. |
| 18:49.29 | Coren{de} | DWSR, there's a lot of files that can be read on both ends, it sounds kinda MS-Officy-bullcrapish? |
| 18:49.40 | Lopeppeppy | Scroll up, you'll see. |
| 18:49.52 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: On a BNC, don't have buffer. |
| 18:50.09 | alestane | I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. |
| 18:50.11 | DWSR | I'ma guess something about 03/07 interop? |
| 18:50.13 | Lopeppeppy | It's a Mac/PC MS Officy bullcrap. |
| 18:50.31 | DWSR | google docs, kthxbai. |
| 18:50.36 | DWSR | or, office live. |
| 18:50.47 | durcyn | people still use ms office? |
| 18:50.50 | Coren{de} | So it's the perfect place to throw out MS Office for OpenOffice right then and there? *g* |
| 18:50.50 | Lopeppeppy | Whatever. |
| 18:51.01 | Lopeppeppy | Y'all have a good afternoon. |
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| 18:51.26 | DWSR | People need to be less touchy on the internet. |
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| 18:54.06 | cogumel0 | stupid question but... what's the not equal sign in lua ? != ? |
| 18:54.12 | alestane | ~= |
| 18:54.15 | cogumel0 | thx |
| 18:56.04 | Cide | != in lua != != |
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| 19:02.09 | Kraps | theres no wow news |
| 19:02.14 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.49 | Slafsinator | Then it's time to *drumroll*: redo the UI! |
| 19:06.55 | Slafsinator | again! |
| 19:09.04 | DWSR | I need help making mine actually look *awesome*. |
| 19:09.09 | DWSR | I mean, it looks alright. |
| 19:09.13 | DWSR | But it's not great. |
| 19:09.19 | DWSR | It doesn't make your eyes bleed at least. |
| 19:10.51 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Cide |
| 19:10.51 | purl | whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that Cide is stuck to the floor |
| 19:10.56 | Slafsinator | UIs that look awesome tend to get torn apart every week because the awesome doesn't appeal to the user after that period of time ;P |
| 19:11.12 | DWSR | Slafsinator: Yeah, but I want it to look awesome to me, that's it. |
| 19:11.26 | DWSR | I mean, I would love to do some work with kgpanels and skinner. |
| 19:11.36 | DWSR | But I'll be damned if I can get skinner to do anything remotely close to what I want. |
| 19:11.36 | Slafsinator | :) |
| 19:11.54 | DWSR | I get kgpanels, but don't know enough wowlua. |
| 19:13.08 | DWSR | I mean, I want to do something like hide all of the raid and tank frames unless I'm in combat, but I'm using Pitbull4, and I don't know what function to call/where to look for it/etc. etc. etc. |
| 19:13.28 | DWSR | I'm sort of guessing that there would be an easy way to figure that out, but again, damned if I know. |
| 19:13.37 | Slafsinator | What does your UI look like currently then |
| 19:13.38 | Slafsinator | ? |
| 19:13.46 | DWSR | hold on, I'll post a pic. |
| 19:14.07 | Slafsinator | holds on. |
| 19:15.09 | DWSR | http://i40.tinypic.com/a460k2.jpg <-- This be my Shaman's UI. |
| 19:15.13 | DWSR | http://i43.tinypic.com/2duxsow.jpg <- This be my lock's UI. |
| 19:15.27 | DWSR | I've since changed all the bar textures on my lock UI to Armory, but other than that it's the same. |
| 19:15.35 | nicoli_s | Berry shirik? |
| 19:15.58 | jnwhiteh | DWSR: whats armory look like? |
| 19:16.03 | jnwhiteh | is it shown there? |
| 19:16.13 | jnwhiteh | i like new bar textures |
| 19:16.15 | Slafsinator | if I were you, I'd quit using kgpanels entirely :) |
| 19:16.25 | Slafsinator | at least for that purpose :) |
| 19:16.46 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: Armory is the bar texture they use on wowarmory.com |
| 19:16.59 | DWSR | Slafsinator: I want to move everything around. |
| 19:17.19 | DWSR | Except maybe keep the minimap in the middle and a few other things. |
| 19:17.35 | DWSR | I like a HUD, but IceHUD sorta sucks. |
| 19:17.57 | DWSR | hud (from WoWI's motw a few weeks back), looks awesome, but isn't functional enough. |
| 19:18.01 | DWSR | yet, anyway. |
| 19:18.16 | Slafsinator | I found HUDs to be in the way, generally |
| 19:18.34 | Slafsinator | I'm just using straight bars now, big and clear, color coded |
| 19:19.10 | DWSR | IceHUD will do straight bars. |
| 19:19.17 | DWSR | I was sort of thinking I would use them, actually. |
| 19:19.42 | Slafsinator | if you look at the warlock's UI, you have so much stuff in the face that you probably can't look at efficiently enough or it covers the action you need to see |
| 19:21.11 | DWSR | The empty space to the right of the cooldown timer is used by omen. |
| 19:21.24 | DWSR | I was thinking that I would move Omen into the space where recount is, and have recount OOC and omen IC. |
| 19:21.39 | DWSR | And then use recount's realtime graph for personal DPS. |
| 19:22.28 | DWSR | I also don't know what to do for buffs/debuffs. |
| 19:22.46 | DWSR | I mean, ideally I would like a display that just shows what buffs I'm missing when in a party/group. |
| 19:23.26 | DWSR | That's smart enough to know what buffs I *should* have in the first place (i.e. if there's no priest, don't say I'm missing priest buffs, etc.). |
| 19:24.07 | DWSR | I'm using Power Auras and MSBT for proc's atm, and that seems to work just fine, so in reality the only thing I would need is a "missing buffs" display. Anyone know of an addon that would do that sort of thing? |
| 19:24.30 | Slafsinator | Power Auras |
| 19:24.31 | Slafsinator | ;P |
| 19:24.50 | Slafsinator | But it wouldn't dynamically know what buffs you would need in relation to what classes you have in your party |
| 19:25.06 | DWSR | right, which is why I was hoping someone would have an idea of how to do that. |
| 19:25.09 | Slafsinator | I use power auras on my priest to show me when I need to rebuff IF, fort, spirit |
| 19:25.25 | DWSR | It wouldn't be terribly difficult to do, I would imagine. |
| 19:26.22 | DWSR | When priest is in your group, fort spirit sr. When paladins are in your group, 1 blessing per paladin up to a max of 3 (sanc, wis/might, kings). gift from druid. |
| 19:27.25 | DWSR | Slafsinator: What do you think of my shaman's UI? |
| 19:28.03 | Slafsinator | I think it's too stylized for its own good :) |
| 19:28.46 | DWSR | ? |
| 19:29.06 | Slafsinator | I'd pull the things you have at the bottom closer to the center |
| 19:29.18 | Slafsinator | you have two separate bars for debuffs(?) |
| 19:30.12 | DWSR | 1 for the target, 1 for me, yes. |
| 19:30.19 | DWSR | 1 on each side. |
| 19:30.22 | Slafsinator | oh, right |
| 19:30.25 | Slafsinator | that makes more sense |
| 19:31.18 | Slafsinator | I also think you would do well trimming down the size of those party frames |
| 19:31.42 | Slafsinator | pull them closer together rather than having them span across the screen :) |
| 19:32.02 | DWSR | I like them that way, because everyone always has their stuff hoirzontal. |
| 19:32.18 | DWSR | Mine's vertical. The raid frames for that toon are similar, but they're not so spaced out because of the fact that there's 8 groups. |
| 19:32.29 | Slafsinator | vertical how? |
| 19:33.32 | Fisker | Who wants a heroes of newerth beta key? |
| 19:33.43 | Ackis | Fisker: I have 4 extra want one? |
| 19:33.48 | Fisker | bah Ackis |
| 19:33.57 | Fisker | i wanted to say "But you won't get one because i'm a jerk" |
| 19:34.19 | Ackis | oh well if you wanted one you can't have it because I'm a jerk |
| 19:34.20 | Ackis | happy? |
| 19:34.35 | DWSR | Slafsinator: I mean, most people have party frames that are similar to how the default UI ones look (i.e. stacked on top of each other). |
| 19:34.48 | Slafsinator | yes |
| 19:34.48 | DWSR | Slafsinator: I was jsut trying out something different by having them stacked side by side. |
| 19:34.58 | Slafsinator | yes, stacking horizontally is a good idea |
| 19:35.14 | tase | better than randomly placed in the middle of your viewport |
| 19:35.25 | Slafsinator | I'd just put them much closer together |
| 19:35.36 | Slafsinator | otherwise your eyes will scan across the entire screen for the information they provide |
| 19:35.49 | DWSR | In the middle or off to a side? |
| 19:36.19 | Slafsinator | I liked to have my heal targets in the middle, it works |
| 19:36.28 | Slafsinator | but not if they're that large, or they'll cover up your viewport :) |
| 19:36.43 | DWSR | Yeah, that shaman is going to be a healer, but I was thinking I would use grid + Clique for heals. |
| 19:36.46 | DWSR | Or maybe healbot, but I dunno. |
| 19:36.52 | DWSR | Haven't really tried out either. |
| 19:37.17 | Slafsinator | in that case you don't really need party frames :) |
| 19:39.05 | DWSR | thinking PB + clique for party. |
| 19:40.31 | cog|work | Ackis: you gief nao! |
| 19:42.13 | jnwhiteh | *shudder* healbot. |
| 19:42.41 | DWSR | what's so bad about it? |
| 19:42.43 | Fisker | throws grenades after jnwhiteh |
| 19:43.15 | durcyn | huh, that's a hell of a statistic. "Apple has 91% of the market for $1000+ computers" |
| 19:43.28 | Fisker | duh |
| 19:43.50 | NeoTron | so that means 90% of the computer market is <$1000? :) |
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| 19:44.08 | durcyn | i dunno, has the median price fallen that much? |
| 19:44.17 | Slafsinator | they all race to the bottom now |
| 19:44.33 | NeoTron | you can get quite a computer for <$100 |
| 19:44.38 | NeoTron | *1000 |
| 19:46.14 | Slafsinator | people realize now that they can get more than they need for like $500 |
| 19:46.46 | Slafsinator | and then there's enthusiasts that pick parts and build their own, and those guys aren't even counted in that statistic |
| 19:47.36 | DWSR | picking parts > getting a prebuilt. |
| 19:47.41 | DWSR | It's not even that hard to build, tbh. |
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| 19:48.35 | Slafsinator | and thus, DWSR put himself in the enthusiast category :) |
| 19:48.37 | nicoli_s | yah, putting together your own comp is really easy these days |
| 19:48.56 | Kraps | FAIL http://www.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=omgdeath&searchType=all |
| 19:49.17 | DWSR | Slafsinator: My dad built one. He's not an enthusiast. |
| 19:49.35 | Slafsinator | Did he pick the parts himself too? |
| 19:50.33 | Fisker | kisses nichdu |
| 19:50.34 | Fisker | bah |
| 19:50.37 | Fisker | kisses nicoli_s |
| 19:51.08 | alestane | Picking parts > getting a prebuilt...if you KNOW WHAT THE F&&& you're doing, anyway. |
| 19:51.26 | DWSR | Slafsinator: For the most part. I suggested a couple of features that he might want (built it RAID, for example). |
| 19:51.36 | Slafsinator | I wouldn't be able to pick parts myself without extensive research |
| 19:51.54 | nicoli_s | fisker, no kisses till you gets me muh sc2 |
| 19:52.11 | DWSR | He did some research. I won't lie that I did help him a bit, but he did finalize everything. |
| 19:52.29 | Slafsinator | that's the thing |
| 19:52.42 | NeoTron | I bought my last comp prebuilt |
| 19:52.50 | NeoTron | very small premium and well worth not spending the time |
| 19:53.03 | NeoTron | prebuild doesn't have to mean picking a dell :P |
| 19:53.36 | DWSR | NeoTron: My dad had the whole thing built in just over an hour. |
| 19:53.53 | DWSR | Shit's like lego man, it only goes together the right way. |
| 19:54.38 | Slafsinator | Sounds to me your dad is a bit more technically adept than the non-enthusiasts I know :) |
| 19:54.48 | durcyn | assembling it's the -fun- part |
| 19:55.03 | DWSR | He works in the IT industry, but he's not a hardware guru. He's a sales guy. |
| 19:55.10 | DWSR | Software sales guy, in fact. |
| 19:56.11 | Slafsinator | my case still rests, picking parts and assembling them is one hell of a lot less convenient than just buying a prebuilt POS with a printer and screen and shit where you basically plug in the power cord and tada, facebook, porn and sports news appear |
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| 19:56.59 | Slafsinator | unless, of course, you enjoy the labor it takes do DIY :) |
| 19:57.43 | DWSR | I enjoy the satisfaction of knowing that I've done something myself with my hands. |
| 19:57.53 | DWSR | inb4 dirty comments, fuck you all. |
| 19:58.06 | Slafsinator | ;P |
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| 20:00.32 | Fisker | nicoli_s |
| 20:00.39 | Fisker | why does Blizzard have to be the cancer killing gaming? |
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| 20:08.35 | durcyn | because vivendi |
| 20:09.04 | alestane | Oddly enough, Strat Dead sucks to solo if you're a paladin. |
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| 20:12.34 | Fisker | It's alright if you're ret and know how to play |
| 20:12.52 | alestane | There are only two major issues I have at the moment, but they SUCK. |
| 20:12.55 | Osagasu | ./flex |
| 20:13.02 | Fisker | But insanely frustrating as holy if you get in a position where you pull a lot |
| 20:13.13 | alestane | Crypt Crawlers and Thuzadin Necromancers. Everything else I can deal with. |
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| 20:19.05 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: did you have issues w/ brothersoft? |
| 20:19.12 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: hrm? |
| 20:19.29 | Ackis | http://www.brothersoft.com/ackis-recipe-list-257249.html |
| 20:19.35 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 20:19.38 | jnwhiteh | and i requested a takedown |
| 20:19.39 | jnwhiteh | and they did |
| 20:20.02 | Ackis | cool |
| 20:20.24 | nicoli_s | wow that page has alot going on |
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| 20:25.28 | Cide | Why editor give one software a pick award? |
| 20:25.29 | Cide | BrotherSoft Review Staff give one product a Pick Award because this product is easy to use, it has a professional-looking interface, it is excellent compared to other programs in this section and so on. |
| 20:25.31 | Cide | nice engrish |
| 20:26.20 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:26.34 | Fisker | bros before softs |
| 20:26.55 | Ackis | http://www.gamespy.com/articles/100/1006376p1.html |
| 20:28.31 | Fisker | noone gives a shit Ackis |
| 20:28.32 | Fisker | :3 |
| 20:28.47 | Ackis | I do |
| 20:29.07 | Ackis | Fisker I can't wait til they make the SC2 Beta US only |
| 20:29.17 | Fisker | i'm us anyways |
| 20:29.19 | Fisker | so fail |
| 20:29.49 | Fisker | also you |
| 20:29.52 | Fisker | 're canadian |
| 20:29.56 | Fisker | pwnt |
| 20:30.51 | Ackis | so? I don't care about the SC2 beta |
| 20:31.15 | Fisker | you care enough to make it US only |
| 20:31.18 | Fisker | so i disagree |
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| 20:32.48 | Ackis | no |
| 20:32.50 | Ackis | I care about you Fisker |
| 20:32.54 | Ackis | I want to see you rage |
| 20:32.57 | Ackis | I want to see you cry |
| 20:32.59 | Ackis | I want to see you moan |
| 20:33.01 | Ackis | I want to see you bitch |
| 20:33.16 | Fisker | All of that easily achieved already |
| 20:33.19 | sacarasc | I want to see you naked. |
| 20:33.27 | sacarasc | All of you! |
| 20:33.28 | Fisker | and making the beta us only won't make me do any of those |
| 20:33.38 | Ackis | yes but SC2 beta being out and you not being able to play would make you rage even more |
| 20:35.17 | nicoli_s | not me, as long as i have the client ill be happy as can be |
| 20:35.35 | Fisker | i already told you i'm US Ackis |
| 20:35.36 | Fisker | durr |
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| 20:39.27 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
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| 20:44.22 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:44.47 | Fisker | types idkfa for unlimited trouts |
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| 20:49.36 | Coren{de} | does anyone have a link to some info about metatables? I'm trying to figure out why seemingly a hooksecurefunc seems to meddle with swapping them, somehow... |
| 20:50.53 | NeoTron | Ackis: fully functional RPG! |
| 20:54.37 | alestane | Coren{de}: hhoksecurefunc doesn't have any effect on metatables, but it can create a new table key which could prevent a metatable from being read. |
| 21:05.01 | Coren{de} | mkay... it seems that if I change my hook from hooksecurefunc(GameTooltip, "SetOwner", MyFunc) to hooksecurefunc(getmetatable(GameTooltip).__index, "SetOwner", MyFunc), it suddenly doesn't interfere... why? 8) |
| 21:07.44 | alestane | Coren{de}: In one case, you are hooking the function for that frame only, in the other case you are hooking it for all widgets of that type. |
| 21:08.40 | alestane | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.8 |
| 21:08.42 | alestane | ~pil |
| 21:08.42 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 21:08.47 | alestane | Either of those might help. |
| 21:14.12 | Coren{de} | Confusing. I read that __index represents the read-value-to-key-*operator*... not an object. And from the meta-definition in the manual, it shouldn't actually call the metatable, if the the table itself contains a key-value pair (which I'd assume GameTooltip does)... I think I need some coffee. 8) |
| 21:14.51 | alestane | By default, basically ALL widget behaviors are provided through metatables. |
| 21:14.56 | Coren{de} | Oh, I think I start to get it... that's pseudo-inheritance-ish. Hm. |
| 21:15.23 | alestane | It's similar to ActionScript's prototype-based inheritance. |
| 21:17.09 | Adys | http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2009-07-23-n52.html |
| 21:18.09 | Pneu^ | google did a joke :< |
| 21:18.54 | Coren{de} | alestane, what did you mean with "hooksecurefunc (..) can create a new table key"? isn't hooksecurefunc happening outside of the lua scope (where the taint engine sits)? |
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| 21:19.18 | alestane | No, it just securely cretes the new closure. |
| 21:19.20 | alestane | creates* |
| 21:20.37 | alestane | For instance, try "/run local oldCSbN = CastSpellByName; hooksecurefunc("CastSpellByName", function(...) end); print(oldCSbN == CastSpellByName)". It should return false. |
| 21:25.00 | Arrowmaster | actually i think hooksecurefunc works more like luas debug tables hook |
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| 21:26.19 | Arrowmaster | i think oldCSbn == CastSpellByName would be true in that situation |
| 21:26.57 | alestane | No, it's false. |
| 21:28.40 | Coren{de} | yes, tried and it's false |
| 21:28.56 | alestane | It does something like creating a new closure from the C-side and placing that closure in the key that was supplied to it. |
| 21:29.33 | Coren{de} | and it stays false, it's not that the closure accepts additional hooks in some table or other and stays after the first creation (would've expected that :D) |
| 21:29.36 | alestane | If you didn't give it a table, it assumes you meant _G. |
| 21:30.21 | alestane | Or more accurately, the global environment. |
| 21:33.51 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 21:33.54 | Adys | down for anyone? |
| 21:34.01 | kd3 | yes |
| 21:34.08 | Adys | k |
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| 21:37.52 | alestane | If you were writing it in Lua, it would be something like"function hooksecurefunc(table, key, hook) if not hook then table, key, hook = getfenv(0), table, key end; local oldFunction = table[key]; return function(...) local returns = {oldFunction(...)}; hook(...); return unpack(returns) end end" |
| 21:40.35 | alestane | Although the "hook(...)" would more properly be "securecall(hook, ...)". |
| 21:46.43 | alestane | Actually, I have one other point wrong. |
| 21:47.16 | alestane | function hooksecurefunc(table, key, hook) if not hook then table, key, hook = getfenv(0), table, key member:end; local oldFunction = table[key]; table[key] = function(...) local returns = {oldFunction(...)}; securecall(hook, ...); return unpack(returns) member:end member:end |
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| 21:58.26 | zeheres | one last question regarding that one ui :) http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw29328.jpg <- what addon is that between the player-/ target frame showing misery etc? |
| 22:01.28 | Adys | "A security hole in the World of Warcraft forums has been found. In exceptional cases, players could abuse the profanity filter which could lead to the server evaluating Perl script snippets." |
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| 22:01.53 | cbreak | yay |
| 22:02.09 | cbreak | failure to sanitize input. |
| 22:02.43 | alestane | Of all the things to exploit... |
| 22:02.49 | cogumel0 | I'm getting a "'attempt to call global 'updateHealthPercentage' (a nil value)" error on my addon, but can't really see what I'm doing wrong... |
| 22:03.04 | cbreak | is there a global with that name? |
| 22:03.08 | cbreak | if so, what does it contain? |
| 22:03.13 | cogumel0 | it's a function |
| 22:03.17 | cbreak | you sure? |
| 22:03.23 | cogumel0 | local updateHealthPercentage = function(self, event, unit, bar, min, max) |
| 22:03.36 | cogumel0 | and I'm calling it like this: updateHealthPercentage(self, event, unit, bar, min, max) |
| 22:03.43 | cbreak | do you call it from a context where the function exists in? |
| 22:03.48 | cogumel0 | (the variables are actually the same) |
| 22:03.49 | cbreak | probably not |
| 22:03.53 | cbreak | since it doesn't see it |
| 22:03.55 | cogumel0 | you mean I gotta call it after it's declared? |
| 22:03.56 | alestane | Then you have tried to use it after it is out of scope, or something similar. |
| 22:03.58 | cbreak | and tries to access a global |
| 22:04.18 | cbreak | in lua, methods aren't declared |
| 22:04.21 | cbreak | just defined |
| 22:04.31 | alestane | Um, yes, you need to define it before you can call it. |
| 22:04.39 | cogumel0 | ahh, that would explain it :) |
| 22:04.41 | cogumel0 | thx |
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| 22:06.39 | Coren{de} | Mkay, I give up. A LDB display shouldn't stop displaying tooltips just because I did /run hooksecurefunc(GameTooltip, "SetOwner", function(self, ...) DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("GTT:SO") end); |
| 22:09.10 | alestane | Depends on what its assumptions and preconditions are. |
| 22:10.40 | Coren{de} | My assumption is, it should not make assumptions there. ;) |
| 22:13.31 | alestane | It's apparenty not using the object the way you expect, though. |
| 22:13.55 | alestane | I just did a basic experiment with PlayerFrame and it worked exactly as I expected. |
| 22:15.48 | Arrowmaster | Adys: wtf? where did you see that from? the wow forums are in java so if they can evaluate perl scripts thats just fucked up |
| 22:16.47 | Adys | it wasn't serious |
| 22:16.52 | Adys | just made me laugh |
| 22:17.02 | Arrowmaster | oh ok |
| 22:17.19 | Adys | the very idea that a profanity filter could produce valid perl code creaks me up |
| 22:17.35 | Zeshar | Blizzard UI coders seem to have a good sense of humor... Blizzard_AchievementUI.lua (2187): -- We found the button! MAKE IT SHOWN ZOMG! |
| 22:17.35 | Adys | it's a mix between creeping me up and cracking me up |
| 22:17.51 | Adys | yep thats humor |
| 22:17.52 | Adys | brb |
| 22:18.14 | Arrowmaster | go search wow.exe in a hex editor for 'sex' |
| 22:18.26 | Adys | already on it |
| 22:18.34 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 22:18.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I know what'll come up |
| 22:18.45 | Arrowmaster | me too, i found it |
| 22:19.10 | alestane | The profanity bl;acklist? |
| 22:19.19 | Adys | thats in the dbcs |
| 22:19.24 | Coren{de} | strings Wow.exe | grep sex |
| 22:19.26 | Coren{de} | (...) |
| 22:19.28 | Coren{de} | Error, unrecognized sex code %d! |
| 22:19.38 | Adys | I dont think its that one |
| 22:19.40 | Adys | the one above. |
| 22:19.44 | ScytheBlade1 | nope, not the one I was thinking of |
| 22:19.52 | Adys | Error, attempted to look up model for player with sex %d (UNITSEX_NONE) |
| 22:20.12 | A-KO | heh |
| 22:20.16 | A-KO | I comment shit like that too :P |
| 22:20.22 | Coren{de} | > Error, attempted to look up model for player with sex %d (UNITSEX_NONE), all players have sex! =D |
| 22:20.42 | Adys | now you ruined the joke for the ones who aren't grepping themselves |
| 22:21.27 | Coren{de} | not everyone has grep... :) |
| 22:21.41 | Arrowmaster | i used a hex editor, not strings and grep |
| 22:21.44 | Adys | you can still cp and ctrl f >_> |
| 22:22.28 | Coren{de} | Well, even less people have a hex editor :D |
| 22:22.37 | Adys | in other fun things, strings Wow.exe | grep wdb |
| 22:22.38 | ScytheBlade1 | cat Wow.exe | xxd | less |
| 22:23.21 | Zeshar | There are a lot of instances of wdb. |
| 22:23.33 | ScytheBlade1 | er, if a lot is 20, sure |
| 22:23.48 | Zeshar | I know which directory to grab if I ever go to their offices: c:\BuildServer\bs1\work\WoW-code\branches\wow-patch-3_1_3-branch\WoW\Source\ |
| 22:24.09 | Adys | how about c:\BuildServer |
| 22:24.15 | A-KO | lol |
| 22:24.55 | Adys | Wow.exe | grep WDBC |
| 22:24.58 | Adys | that one is interesting |
| 22:25.03 | Adys | the headers are stored in the exe? |
| 22:25.51 | ScytheBlade1 | All I get is "WDBCt" * 228 |
| 22:26.09 | Adys | yeah there are 223 dbcs |
| 22:26.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Anyone know a good windows twitter client? |
| 22:26.19 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: a shotgun |
| 22:26.24 | ScytheBlade1 | (to the face) |
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| 22:31.33 | NightHawkTheSane | no, thats just a good solution to windows in general... |
| 22:31.57 | nicoli_s | what about twittercraft? |
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| 22:38.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I find all of the people saying "afk, calling the BBB on Blizzard" somewhat amusing |
| 22:41.31 | nicoli_s | Adys, the dbc structure used to be in the client |
| 22:41.51 | nicoli_s | that was how people figured them out in the alpha, there was one debug version of the client you could rip them all out of |
| 22:42.23 | Adys | it was at some point in the wotlk alpha |
| 22:42.44 | nicoli_s | well im talking about even before that, like in the original alpha |
| 22:43.19 | Adys | yeah |
| 22:43.19 | Adys | i mean it was again at some point a few months ago |
| 22:43.25 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 22:45.20 | ScytheBlade1 | LOADPCT : 1.0 Percent Load Capacity |
| 22:45.22 | ScytheBlade1 | TIMELEFT : 354.0 Minutes |
| 22:45.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I <3 my UPS |
| 22:45.36 | ScytheBlade1 | And I actually like power failures too, it is finally quiet around here |
| 22:50.17 | mikma | now, anyone here has some experience with LibSimpleOptions + Checkboxes? |
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| 23:11.07 | AnduinLothar | ckk's version of Portfolio? |
| 23:12.13 | mikma | propably. also, problem solved ^^ |
| 23:12.28 | mikma | if portfolio is lib to inject stuff into interface options |
| 23:12.35 | AnduinLothar | ahh, looks liek his came first |
| 23:12.55 | mikma | too bad i didn't even remember portfolio |
| 23:13.00 | mikma | could have used that one, too |
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| 23:13.30 | AnduinLothar | Looks like Portfolio handles a lot more of the code for you |
| 23:14.15 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072409_011629.jpg <- there's the stuff i want to be handled ^^ |
| 23:14.19 | AnduinLothar | LibSimpleOptions have docs ? |
| 23:14.53 | mikma | http://www.wowace.com/addons/libsimpleoptions-1-0/pages/api/lib-simple-options-1-0/ |
| 23:14.57 | mikma | this is what i found |
| 23:15.10 | mikma | i just used code from TweakWoW instead of reading that ^^ |
| 23:15.38 | AnduinLothar | yeah, that'd be easy enough with Portfolio. You'd have to use your own point values (positioning), but it's not esp complicated |
| 23:16.12 | foxlit | psst, "Reset" vs "Defaults" |
| 23:16.40 | mikma | anduinlothar: http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=OhSnap&path=%2Ftrunk%2FConfig.lua |
| 23:16.40 | mikma | that's the code i have atm |
| 23:16.42 | mikma | foxlit: silence, i reset you |
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| 23:17.22 | AnduinLothar | yeah, Portfolio uses a config table input style |
| 23:17.50 | AnduinLothar | of course LibSimpleOptions is porbably easier to customize your own complex layout |
| 23:18.18 | mikma | complex layout? ;) |
| 23:18.48 | AnduinLothar | what you ss'd doesn't qualify as complex :P |
| 23:20.07 | AnduinLothar | does Ace use LibSimpleOptions? |
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| 23:20.24 | mikma | anduinlothar: dunno |
| 23:20.34 | Jamash | Ace uses its own thing |
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| 23:20.47 | AnduinLothar | i know it uses a table format |
| 23:21.18 | AnduinLothar | interesting that LibSimpleOptions uses dictionary style create statments |
| 23:21.47 | AnduinLothar | seems to me that's just another way to format a table... |
| 23:21.55 | mikma | anduinlothar: where are the examples of PortFolio? |
| 23:22.12 | mikma | in.. portfolio? ;) |
| 23:22.15 | AnduinLothar | in the download |
| 23:22.28 | mikma | Downloads: |
| 23:22.29 | mikma | 139,247 |
| 23:22.32 | mikma | lol wut O_o |
| 23:22.45 | AnduinLothar | yeah, i'm not sure where they all came from |
| 23:23.37 | AnduinLothar | I have a number of addons that use it, but they all include it... |
| 23:23.55 | AnduinLothar | and i only know of a handful of other addons that use it |
| 23:24.04 | AnduinLothar | most of which include it |
| 23:24.05 | alestane | One day Demonomicon got an average of ten downloads a second for several hours. Cairenn concluded that it was some strange bot and reset the counts. |
| 23:24.33 | mikma | anduinlothar: well i'll play around with it. i just managed to complete the gui but that doesn't matter, cause i'm open for suggestions xD |
| 23:24.56 | AnduinLothar | the onyl thing i can think of is people that use my other addons have updated portfolio habitually |
| 23:25.50 | mikma | oh, portfolio needs quite alot of files apparently |
| 23:25.54 | AnduinLothar | wish there was an 'over time' downlaod graph |
| 23:26.13 | AnduinLothar | yeah mikma, it's not anywhere near as small as LibSimpleOptions |
| 23:26.25 | AnduinLothar | but then it does a lot more 'automatically' |
| 23:27.24 | AnduinLothar | LibDefaults (12KB), which includes LibStub (1.33KB), both included in Portfolio (92KB) |
| 23:27.31 | mikma | doesn't seem to be needing lots of positioning |
| 23:28.51 | AnduinLothar | Portfolio auto positions things ont he next line, left aligned. if you want them to be in a horizotal line like your SS you can set a 'point' table which is basically the SetPoint arguments |
| 23:29.55 | mikma | are you really sure you want me to try this, cause i can be a real pain the ass, just ask anyone |
| 23:29.55 | AnduinLothar | and for the relative frame you can leave nil to anchor relative tot he previous option or you can specify the option id of some other previous option to anchor to. |
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| 23:30.13 | AnduinLothar | have at it. more eyes the better, right? |
| 23:31.37 | mikma | LibStub, LibDefaults, InterfaceOptionAboutPanel, Portfolio, Control, Button, Checkbox, Dropdown, Slider, Text |
| 23:32.00 | mikma | bunch of files to load |
| 23:32.07 | AnduinLothar | the first 3 are embedded mini libs. |
| 23:32.22 | mikma | yeap |
| 23:32.51 | AnduinLothar | those last ones are just the config api split up for easier groking |
| 23:33.53 | AnduinLothar | loading consecutive files shouldn't hurt much unless their fragmented around your disk |
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| 23:34.12 | Tuller_ | mikma is a total pita |
| 23:34.13 | mikma | just wanting to make sure i load them all |
| 23:34.20 | mikma | see! told ya |
| 23:34.22 | AnduinLothar | you dont have to |
| 23:34.26 | AnduinLothar | manually that is |
| 23:34.40 | mikma | whack the loader in and voila |
| 23:34.48 | AnduinLothar | ^^ |
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| 23:35.54 | mikma | tuller_: njah njah i abandoned bagnon! |
| 23:36.25 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 23:37.15 | AnduinLothar | mikma you can comment your comments on the wowi page if i'mnot around. i can always use more motivation to update it. |
| 23:37.45 | AnduinLothar | provided you consult the docs first ;) |
| 23:39.58 | mikma | i never read docs |
| 23:40.03 | mikma | they are for nerds! |
| 23:40.05 | mikma | (joking) |
| 23:40.26 | AnduinLothar | < nerd |
| 23:42.35 | mikma | where is my free about page?!??! |
| 23:43.39 | AnduinLothar | it's optional. you probably left in the about=false; fromt he demo |
| 23:43.51 | mikma | hehe true |
| 23:44.19 | mikma | ooh |
| 23:44.37 | AnduinLothar | spose i could comment that, you're not the first one to have the problem, lol |
| 23:45.03 | mikma | hehe, 10sec after pressing enter i noticed the line |
| 23:45.24 | AnduinLothar | tho i was gonna do an update to allow more sub pages.... just haven't got around to it. |
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| 23:46.09 | AnduinLothar | ran into a design dilemma each time i tried, but i've forgotten what it was. |
| 23:46.10 | mikma | if i run this hack page multiple times, will it recreate the stuff like 20 times in the interface options |
| 23:46.28 | AnduinLothar | hack page? |
| 23:46.32 | mikma | yeap |
| 23:46.37 | AnduinLothar | meaning? |
| 23:46.42 | mikma | it's like WoWLua or TinyPad |
| 23:47.22 | AnduinLothar | i'd have to check the code. but i'm pretty sure it'd error sayign that page already exists |
| 23:48.13 | mikma | [02:47:21] OhSnapControlPanelSlider2:SetValue(4) Error: varTable is not a table <- hehe ;) |
| 23:48.15 | AnduinLothar | yeah "--Check for duplicate set name (id)" |
| 23:48.42 | mikma | ain't duplicate :P |
| 23:48.49 | mikma | there's just slider and checkbox :D |
| 23:48.59 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 23:49.06 | Cairenn | hugs Sargeras |
| 23:49.25 | Sargeras | one month till BlizzCon oh mah gawwwwdd~!! |
| 23:49.28 | Cairenn | a month, then I want for-real ones! |
| 23:49.38 | Cairenn | :) |
| 23:49.46 | mikma | haahaa, not getting any from me |
| 23:49.49 | AnduinLothar | it doesn't care about the contents. it jsut checks the set id |
| 23:50.01 | Sargeras | Jim and Leah, and April and I booked our rooms last week |
| 23:50.07 | Cairenn | rarr! |
| 23:50.30 | bleeter | Adys: damn, I feared as much, sorry for not getting back to you earlier... being my usual slackass self |
| 23:50.53 | bleeter | Adys: I could blame this flu/cold infection thing I have, but nah time to face facts.. I'm a slacker ;) |
| 23:50.59 | AnduinLothar | you can dynamically modify the configuration yourself, but there's no UpdateSet function, cause then i'd have to compare a ton of stuff that doesn't exist any more. |
| 23:51.05 | bleeter | Adys: oh, btw, this was re: the Wine UPnP bug |
| 23:51.10 | mikma | anduinlothar: well, umm, it's copypaste of slider2 and checkbox1 .. : |
| 23:51.37 | AnduinLothar | you mean inside the set? |
| 23:51.41 | bleeter | Adys: I only mention it now 'coz only now has the mail come through haha |
| 23:51.52 | AnduinLothar | or did you copy/paste the whole set multiple times |
| 23:52.25 | mikma | anduinlothar: http://lol.pastey.net/118032 |
| 23:52.36 | mikma | whopsie! |
| 23:52.46 | mikma | *whistles* ;) |
| 23:53.10 | mikma | oh, still errors. yey |
| 23:53.21 | AnduinLothar | right. the 2nd time you execute that it'll complain that the optionTable already exists by that id |
| 23:53.45 | mikma | this is after first execute, everytime i slide the slider or check the checkbox :) |
| 23:54.06 | AnduinLothar | what, the error? |
| 23:54.26 | mikma | yes, the error :) |
| 23:54.43 | mikma | i'm rechecking the docs and code now |
| 23:54.48 | mikma | clearly missing something :) |
| 23:54.54 | AnduinLothar | what error? |
| 23:56.09 | mikma | [02:55:41] OhSnapControlPanelSlider1:SetValue(6) Error: varTable is not a table |
| 23:56.21 | Adys | bleeter: i tested it it didnt work |
| 23:56.46 | AnduinLothar | hmm |
| 23:57.41 | AnduinLothar | oh you know what |
| 23:57.52 | mikma | i'm missing something |
| 23:58.34 | AnduinLothar | yeah, i never tested it from an ingame text editor. it expects a OhSnap addon to be loading. so it's waiting for the ADDON_LOADED event to init |
| 23:59.12 | mikma | ahso. |
| 23:59.15 | mikma | let's put it in a file |
