| 00:00.39 | Wobin | link it for me =P |
| 00:03.25 | Kraps | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eu+armory |
| 00:03.37 | Kraps | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sylvanas&n=Mikma |
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| 00:05.31 | mikma | thanks kraps! |
| 00:09.03 | mikma | i even added a spell for cog|away! |
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| 00:09.48 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.48 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:10.09 | mikma | except thats reversed now, hehe |
| 00:12.27 | Dagmar | Huh? I don't get it. |
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| 00:12.59 | mikma | when you target dummies it gives you a message on screen |
| 00:13.29 | mikma | target dummy: [icon] banner of the XXX (For ZZZ) |
| 00:13.46 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072109_000450.jpg |
| 00:13.52 | mikma | just like in this one |
| 00:14.33 | Dagmar | Okay. |
| 00:14.45 | Dagmar | Just seems a little odd is why I thought I was missing something |
| 00:15.23 | Dagmar | Man the PTR is about to make me write a word-filter addon for chat |
| 00:17.03 | Wobin | mikma: I dunno if I want to go full unholy again |
| 00:17.31 | Duman | heh |
| 00:17.52 | Dagmar | I'm about to make myself Enemy No. 1 to a whole lot of SV hunters |
| 00:18.11 | mikma | rerolling a rogue? |
| 00:18.26 | Wobin | I'd say "Killing Loque, or Gondria" but that's BM |
| 00:18.30 | Dagmar | No. I'm about to throw down over this "we do more DPS because we have a more complex shot rotation" bullshit |
| 00:18.44 | Wobin | for MM? |
| 00:18.55 | Dagmar | On the PTR, since we get free dual-spec on the premades, I've been doing a little experimenting. |
| 00:19.22 | Wobin | although, your logic is somewhat flawed |
| 00:19.30 | Dagmar | One of the things that stands out as unkosher is an _easy_ one. You switch to SV with the same gear and your attack power goes up significantly, right off the bad. |
| 00:19.36 | Dagmar | My logic is fine. |
| 00:19.38 | Wobin | Your complex shot rotation only gives the result that you have a complex shot rotation =P |
| 00:19.53 | Dagmar | That "more complex shot rotation" thing is the excuse that's been handed out for awhile now |
| 00:20.04 | Wobin | DPS is not directly linked to the complexity of a shot rotation |
| 00:20.06 | Dagmar | I've always thought it was questionable. |
| 00:20.30 | Dagmar | ...but now it's looking like you can spec to SV and outdamage BM without even changing tactics. |
| 00:20.39 | Dagmar | *THAT* is unacceptable. |
| 00:20.51 | Wobin | what are we comparing here? |
| 00:20.57 | Dagmar | BM and SV DPS |
| 00:21.10 | Wobin | pet will scale better in 3.2 though, no? |
| 00:21.18 | Dagmar | This is why I'm doign it on the PTR |
| 00:21.33 | Dagmar | I don't want to go through a whole bunch of analysis just to ahve the response be "Oh well, that'll change in two weeks" |
| 00:21.37 | Wobin | and Explosive shot is slightly nerfed due to internal cooldown? |
| 00:22.01 | Dagmar | Base attack power goes up _significantly_ when you swap specs. |
| 00:22.07 | Dagmar | >15%. |
| 00:22.10 | Wobin | yees |
| 00:22.16 | Wobin | but pet damage drops significantly |
| 00:22.39 | Wobin | BM damage is at least 40% pet |
| 00:22.40 | Dagmar | It's not enough |
| 00:22.48 | Wobin | SV pet damage is around 18 |
| 00:23.58 | Kraps | The Paladin Talent Avenger's Shield is a reference to Captain America (who is a member of the superhero group known as The Avengers), and his ability to ricochet his shield off of multiple targets and return to him. |
| 00:24.11 | Kraps | man i'm a pretty weak nerd |
| 00:24.18 | Dagmar | Woo! City of Warcraft! |
| 00:24.31 | Wobin | and due to HvsW and ExpWeakness, you -get- AP buffs |
| 00:24.54 | Wobin | it's stupid to say "Oh the AP should be the same no matter what spec" |
| 00:25.15 | Wobin | Kraps: yes, yes you are =P |
| 00:25.27 | Dagmar | This is why I'm glad I've got hard numebrs to play with now |
| 00:25.35 | Dagmar | The specs _are_ too far out of sync with each other |
| 00:29.01 | Kraps | http://www.wowwiki.com/In-jokes_and_references/games,_TV_and_movies |
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| 00:50.31 | mikma | so, a stupid question: does your target (human player) switch his target to you if you use taunt on him? |
| 00:52.14 | NightHawkTheSane | no. |
| 00:52.30 | NightHawkTheSane | no taunt/target change ability affects player characters. |
| 00:53.49 | mikma | would have been cool |
| 00:54.00 | mikma | make other players lose their target |
| 00:54.14 | Wobin | the only skill that affects the other player's target is FD |
| 00:54.20 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, prot warriors have been kinda clamoring for that for years |
| 00:54.22 | Wobin | that I know of |
| 00:54.36 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, and thats only indirect really |
| 00:54.37 | mikma | wobin: and mirror images |
| 00:54.43 | Gnarfoz | vanish! :) |
| 00:54.53 | Wobin | oh true, vanish and invis |
| 00:54.54 | Gnarfoz | just as indirectly as invis/fd ;) |
| 00:55.10 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* i didn't mention those because those aren't direct taunts or target-change abilities, but yeah |
| 00:55.10 | mikma | fd, vanish, invis, mirror images, dispersion |
| 00:55.21 | Wobin | FD is a little less than vanish/invis/MI |
| 00:55.26 | Wobin | cause it's easy to retarget =) |
| 00:56.02 | Wobin | Do you come out of invis if you have a dot on you? |
| 00:56.08 | Wobin | I've never played a mage pvp |
| 00:56.21 | mikma | wobin: yeap |
| 00:56.43 | mikma | you can even run in AoE and invis breaks |
| 00:56.54 | mikma | and of course, you cant see the aoe on the ground |
| 00:57.12 | Wobin | naturally |
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| 00:57.33 | Wobin | actually, that's surprisng |
| 00:57.48 | Wobin | I figured that any interaction -once- you were invis'd would only be in your phase |
| 00:57.49 | mikma | its quite funny |
| 00:58.05 | mikma | "i'll just run through her... lol wut?" |
| 00:58.12 | Wobin | UB would be terrible for that =) |
| 00:58.32 | mikma | anything that does aoe damage hits the mage |
| 00:58.56 | mikma | he cant see anything while phased and you cant see him (unless you got warlocks detext invis!) |
| 00:59.04 | tekkub | oh those bitches |
| 00:59.08 | Wobin | UB is nice cause it's 'hands-free' as it were |
| 00:59.13 | tekkub | they took out the quest mapper in the latest PTR? |
| 00:59.19 | Wobin | wonder how they'll change it in 3.2 |
| 00:59.25 | kd3 | ya |
| 00:59.34 | kd3 | tek; most quests were pointing to hilsbrad somewhere |
| 00:59.34 | tekkub | wrrrrryyyyyyyy? |
| 00:59.45 | tekkub | bah, the default location :) |
| 00:59.59 | Wobin | kd3: 0,0,0 =) |
| 01:00.01 | ZorbaBeta | it's been broken since they introduced it. I was actually going to work on some kind of QH integration, but aren't even bothering |
| 01:00.15 | tekkub | it's worked for me every time I've used it |
| 01:00.17 | ZorbaBeta | I dunno, maybe they saw the new QH feature and decided to try to duplicate it :P |
| 01:00.22 | tekkub | I just was using it in NR :P |
| 01:00.28 | Wobin | Hey, did they ever fix the "Magic Deathgrip Ride" in Booty Bay? |
| 01:00.32 | kd3 | new quests are ok... old quests... |
| 01:00.38 | ZorbaBeta | huh, odd. I think I've seen, like, two objectives of theirs that were even vaguely in the right location |
| 01:00.42 | tekkub | Wobin: oh yea they fixed that fast |
| 01:00.47 | Wobin | aww =\ |
| 01:00.49 | Wobin | that was -fun- |
| 01:00.54 | kd3 | the 3.2.0 quests I've seen worked fine |
| 01:00.58 | mikma | haha |
| 01:01.01 | tekkub | they fixed it like the day wowins published it |
| 01:01.07 | mikma | 0,0,0 is in hillsbrad? |
| 01:01.13 | Wobin | underneath |
| 01:01.19 | tekkub | there's a boat there |
| 01:01.19 | Wobin | on the PIRATE BOAT |
| 01:01.26 | mikma | then whats the idea of people teleporting in westfall? |
| 01:01.40 | kd3 | westfall is the alliance's default graveyard |
| 01:01.42 | tekkub | are you thinking of the default graveyard? |
| 01:01.59 | mikma | apparently, i am |
| 01:02.36 | tekkub | they should put the map in, and only EXPOSE it for quests that have data |
| 01:02.42 | tekkub | then work to add the quests in |
| 01:02.58 | tekkub | from what I saw, most if not all of NR had data |
| 01:03.06 | Wobin | Now now, that makes -sense- |
| 01:03.12 | tekkub | and the two in outland I tested did |
| 01:03.16 | Wobin | Don't set your expectations too high! |
| 01:03.36 | theorbtwo | How do you end up in a default graveyard? |
| 01:03.49 | mikma | theorbtwo: something fucks up horribly |
| 01:03.50 | kd3 | if you die somewhere in a location where there isn't a graveyard defined |
| 01:03.51 | Gnarfoz | die somewhere that hasn't got its own gy defined |
| 01:03.58 | kd3 | like crystalsong during most of beta |
| 01:04.04 | Gnarfoz | silithus :o |
| 01:04.30 | mikma | people got teleported there from some major instance too |
| 01:04.36 | mikma | cant remember what |
| 01:04.43 | tekkub | and of course, they didn't remove the code, just hid the setting |
| 01:04.45 | Gnarfoz | why are romulan Warbirds so friggin huge |
| 01:04.45 | tekkub | lol |
| 01:04.51 | tekkub | and probably disabled the API |
| 01:04.52 | kd3 | ulduar, in mimiron's room |
| 01:05.03 | mikma | kd3: yes, that one |
| 01:05.30 | mikma | we got two different people teleported there in same instance |
| 01:05.43 | mikma | and we didnt have a lock with us |
| 01:12.24 | mikma | adys: http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/48792/ <- "Ghis:her" |
| 01:32.06 | kd3 | zOMG |
| 01:32.10 | kd3 | they fixed [flyable] in dalaran |
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| 01:36.36 | tekkub | yea, like 6 months after the damn fact |
| 01:36.50 | tekkub | I'm guessing northrend flying still isn't factored into it though |
| 01:38.21 | Shadowed | at least that is more of an edge case still and easier to work around |
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| 01:45.29 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 01:45.46 | Shirik | RAWR |
| 01:45.50 | Shirik | tackles Seerah |
| 01:53.19 | Jiminizer | Hey all. Making my First UI based addon, I'm trying to add another tab to the PVP window basically - I'm not 100% on how to do this though. At the moment I've added the XML for the tab into the file with the usual header, and set the parent to "PVPParentFrame" but this doesn't work - can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong or point me in the right direction? |
| 01:54.02 | foxlit | Tabs are complicated. |
| 01:54.21 | Jiminizer | :/ |
| 01:54.38 | foxlit | If you're just starting out, consider having your own window rather than attempting to integrate into Blizzard's :) |
| 01:54.51 | Jiminizer | I got the code from the FrameXML file for the PVPFrame |
| 01:55.03 | Jiminizer | Well I've got an addon working with my own window |
| 01:55.20 | Jiminizer | It's just putting things into blizzards stuff that I'm struggling with. |
| 01:55.52 | foxlit | In that case, you have an excellent opportunity to figure out how the tabs actually work. |
| 01:56.18 | foxlit | I'd suggest looking at the how the tab button clicks are handled -- that should lead somewhere interesting. |
| 01:57.00 | Jiminizer | AFAIK they just work like buttons, showing and hiding frames :/ |
| 01:57.56 | foxlit | Unfortunately, it's 4 am, so I am reluctant to actually look at it. |
| 01:58.01 | Jiminizer | I managed to disable the PVP frame, steal the code and make my own with a working tab, its just getting the tab inside the _existing_ frame that I've hit a wall with |
| 01:58.04 | foxlit | Try waking the other zombies :) |
| 01:58.12 | Jiminizer | lol fair enough :p |
| 01:59.40 | foxlit | If no one is awake, you could try making a topic at http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=13 -- it'd take a bit longer, but you'll probably get an answer :) |
| 02:00.57 | Jiminizer | I might bump this: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19755 |
| 02:01.06 | Jiminizer | It's pretty much exactly the same query |
| 02:01.21 | foxlit | It's from 2008. |
| 02:01.43 | foxlit | But your call. Good night. |
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| 02:17.01 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jBKKV2V8eU&feature=fvhl +9000 |
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| 02:28.13 | Thunder_Child | i like how the new nvidia card came with an ATI advert |
| 02:31.17 | bleeter | haha |
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| 02:38.02 | Tem | I hate freya trash |
| 02:46.26 | Kraps | whoa http://www.barnesandnoble.com/ebooks/ |
| 02:47.38 | tekkub | but does it work on kindle? :) |
| 02:47.47 | tekkub | reading on an iphone sucks |
| 02:48.42 | Kraps | its supposed to be the anti-kindle i think |
| 02:48.53 | tekkub | it's not though |
| 02:49.04 | tekkub | software ereaders have been around for a decade |
| 02:49.38 | Thunder_Child | did you just say that the iphone is supposed to be a kindle killer? |
| 02:49.46 | Kraps | ...no |
| 02:49.56 | tekkub | i think he did |
| 02:49.58 | Osagasu | Loooooooool |
| 02:50.00 | tekkub | STRING HIM UP |
| 02:50.01 | Kraps | NO |
| 02:50.04 | Kraps | AHHHHHHHY |
| 02:50.30 | Mr_Rabies | the kindle app for iphone isn't too bad |
| 02:50.35 | tekkub | seriously, if they would publish in a kindle-copatible format, it'd be even MORE reason for me to get a kindle |
| 02:50.47 | tekkub | to spite amazon by never buying books from them |
| 02:50.57 | tekkub | don't they still lose money on the kindle itself? |
| 02:51.03 | Osagasu | I think so |
| 02:51.05 | Mr_Rabies | i dunno |
| 02:51.12 | Mr_Rabies | probably, tis why the kindle app is free i'd imagine |
| 02:51.23 | tekkub | my original plan was to get a kindle and pirate all the books, but new releases are bitch to find |
| 02:51.25 | Osagasu | The inly problem is, the Kindle uses a whispernet |
| 02:51.32 | tekkub | so I know Trey woul d end up buying shit on it |
| 02:51.39 | Osagasu | Which means Amazon could update the firmware to prevent you from doing so |
| 02:51.40 | Kraps | emma watson is going to college in the US |
| 02:51.42 | tekkub | and I'd rather he do that on B&N :) |
| 02:51.53 | Osagasu | Emma Watson is going to regret that decision. |
| 02:52.01 | tekkub | Osagasu: you'd have to have that turned on |
| 02:52.19 | tekkub | and anyone with any sense wouldn't unless they were activly using it at the time, cause it eats the battery |
| 02:52.25 | Seerah | Kraps: am I misremembering her college choice then? |
| 02:52.35 | tekkub | my mother has the small second-gen kindle :) |
| 02:52.39 | Kraps | Seerah: whats that |
| 02:52.43 | Osagasu | College choices change as kids grow up |
| 02:52.47 | Seerah | ...... don't remember :p |
| 02:52.51 | tekkub | you can load onto it via USB, so long as it's a supported format |
| 02:52.52 | Kraps | lol |
| 02:52.55 | Seerah | just read it 2 days ago |
| 02:52.57 | tekkub | it doesn't have to go over the air |
| 02:53.35 | Osagasu | Someone using it would forget and turn it on to download something wirelessly |
| 02:53.57 | Osagasu | :P |
| 02:54.00 | Osagasu | That would suck |
| 02:54.14 | Osagasu | It's like the auto-destroy-data feature of the iPhone. |
| 02:54.22 | Osagasu | It's a built in griefing tool! |
| 02:54.30 | tekkub | yea, but I think the day amazon tries to lock out files that weren't purchased from them is the day users will revolt bigtime |
| 02:54.42 | tekkub | especially since the bigger kindle's selling point is PDFs |
| 02:54.58 | Osagasu | Amazon just locked out filed that WERE purchased from them |
| 02:55.01 | Osagasu | 1984, I believe. |
| 02:55.10 | Mr_Rabies | so why is amazon the bad guy all of a sudden |
| 02:55.15 | tekkub | they've already had the drama with deleting purchased books, and they *say* they'll never do it again |
| 02:55.22 | kd3 | because DRM is fail? |
| 02:55.24 | Osagasu | looooooooooooooooool. |
| 02:55.36 | stanzilla | Osagasu: animal farm was the other one |
| 02:55.36 | Mr_Rabies | i thought they had to drm it to get the publishers to agree |
| 02:55.42 | Mr_Rabies | they're DRM free on music |
| 02:55.56 | tekkub | books you buy through amazon are DRM'd |
| 02:56.02 | Osagasu | Because Amazon's way of fighting tax laws is by canceling all business accounts in the states the laws are being put through legislation in. |
| 02:56.03 | Kraps | it was a copyright issue |
| 02:56.03 | Mr_Rabies | i know |
| 02:56.04 | tekkub | but you don't have to have DRM to load onto it |
| 02:56.10 | tekkub | it's essentially an iPod for books |
| 02:56.17 | Mr_Rabies | that sounds resonable, Osagasu |
| 02:56.31 | Kraps | http://db.tidbits.com/article/10417 |
| 02:56.33 | Mr_Rabies | it's dumb for that legislation to exist |
| 02:56.39 | tekkub | even if it was a copyright issue, they should have not deleted |
| 02:56.42 | Osagasu | How is it reasonable? The tax laws weren't even in effect, were still being voted on |
| 02:56.51 | Osagasu | and Amazon cancels all North Carolina vendor accounts |
| 02:56.56 | tekkub | they should have offered full ( or more) refunds if you choose to turn it back in |
| 02:57.03 | tekkub | like they would have if it was a real book |
| 02:57.12 | Mr_Rabies | i mean they refunded it |
| 02:57.17 | Mr_Rabies | it's not like they took the money and ran |
| 02:57.22 | tekkub | OFFERED is the key there |
| 02:57.27 | tekkub | not FORCED |
| 02:57.59 | |Paradox| | can't wait for the new paradigm to become old hat |
| 02:58.14 | Osagasu | The reason I haven't gotten a Kindle? They don't let me listen to my books on it. |
| 02:58.23 | |Paradox| | IP is not the same as physical property no matter what anyone says. |
| 02:58.30 | Osagasu | I was going ot get one till I heard they made that change |
| 02:58.54 | tekkub | what change? |
| 02:58.55 | Mr_Rabies | i thought publishers made them allow themselves to set if it's Text to speech |
| 02:59.06 | tekkub | publishers have to choose to let the reader work |
| 02:59.07 | Osagasu | And most turned TTS off. |
| 02:59.12 | Mr_Rabies | bascially threatened to pull their support if amazon didn't bend over backwards |
| 02:59.14 | Osagasu | AFAIK |
| 02:59.14 | tekkub | that and the TTS sucks :) |
| 02:59.17 | Mr_Rabies | what would you have rathered them do? |
| 02:59.40 | Mr_Rabies | lose millions of potential dollars for something dumb like TTS? |
| 03:00.06 | Osagasu | The publishers should have looked at the consumers. Or better yet, looked at the music industry. |
| 03:00.15 | Mr_Rabies | ha |
| 03:00.29 | Osagasu | Limiting use will not help them sell more. |
| 03:00.43 | Mr_Rabies | looking to the music industry's a terrible idea, but yeah i agree that it's dumb for the publisher to require that |
| 03:00.47 | tekkub | I think they DID look at the music industry |
| 03:00.57 | tekkub | and they saw that the iTunes store worked and had DRM |
| 03:01.02 | Mr_Rabies | don't blame amazon for that though |
| 03:01.03 | tekkub | and that was all they saw |
| 03:01.17 | Osagasu | They probably missed that fact that iTunes sales went UP when they removed DRM. |
| 03:01.33 | tekkub | and that people buy iPods to fill them with pirated music |
| 03:01.49 | tekkub | you think I'd buy 120GB of music at $1/4MB? |
| 03:01.54 | tekkub | you smokin shit! |
| 03:01.59 | Mr_Rabies | i mean mine has about 8 gigs of pirated music and i just bought it this month |
| 03:02.06 | Corrodias | just put in an actual, legal DVD and got pissed off at all the delays, menus, and warnings before the damn video can even play. |
| 03:02.09 | Mr_Rabies | i'm too busy fighting with the pos known as itunes to import more |
| 03:02.10 | Mr_Rabies | :9 |
| 03:02.23 | Osagasu | Use Winamp. |
| 03:02.27 | Osagasu | :) |
| 03:02.38 | Mr_Rabies | i've got an iphone |
| 03:02.41 | Mr_Rabies | so i've got apps etc too |
| 03:02.49 | Mr_Rabies | unfortunately i have to use itunes :( |
| 03:03.05 | Osagasu | So do I. I tell it to not touch my music, just sync my apps |
| 03:03.10 | tekkub | 120GB of music... at $1/4MiB is like.... $28,610 |
| 03:03.10 | Mr_Rabies | ah |
| 03:03.21 | Mr_Rabies | does it allow for dynamic libraries, Osagasu? |
| 03:03.22 | tekkub | hi that's like what I make in a year before taxes |
| 03:03.34 | Mr_Rabies | because having to reimport my folder each time i add music is pretty lame |
| 03:04.24 | tekkub | aw c'mon you know itunes is perfect |
| 03:04.27 | Osagasu | I've never had any problems |
| 03:04.29 | tekkub | don't question apple |
| 03:04.36 | Osagasu | Your results may vary |
| 03:04.39 | tekkub | you'll wake up dead one day |
| 03:04.48 | Osagasu | I hate Apple. |
| 03:05.11 | Osagasu | I want a Blackberry. (RIM can do no wrong, either, y'know) |
| 03:05.16 | tekkub | but look at the alternative... MS |
| 03:05.37 | tekkub | you really want them to make a zunephone? |
| 03:05.44 | tekkub | don't encourage them |
| 03:05.49 | Osagasu | Eeeh |
| 03:05.54 | Osagasu | If they tie it into Live? |
| 03:06.02 | Osagasu | And the 360? |
| 03:06.04 | Osagasu | I'd hit that. |
| 03:06.46 | Osagasu | Microsoft's future plans do point at some form of mobile device. |
| 03:06.54 | Osagasu | Most likely tying the Zune into the Live system |
| 03:07.58 | tekkub | there's one reason I would never ever buy a zune, or any player aside from an iPod frankly |
| 03:08.04 | tekkub | and it's the stupidest thing ever |
| 03:08.08 | Osagasu | The most important thing they need to realize is that WiMo SUCKS. |
| 03:08.10 | tekkub | ... random by album |
| 03:08.21 | tekkub | why the fuck does noone but apple and foobar do this? |
| 03:08.26 | Osagasu | say what? |
| 03:08.33 | tekkub | random by album |
| 03:08.52 | tekkub | did you ever have one of those 300-disc cd changers? |
| 03:08.55 | Corrodias | WHY does winamp not let you SEARCH your playlists for song/artist names? |
| 03:09.00 | Corrodias | that's the one thing that pisses me off about it |
| 03:09.06 | kd3 | hit 'j'? |
| 03:09.10 | tekkub | where you put all your music in, and it would pick a disk, play, pick a new disc... |
| 03:09.11 | Osagasu | Which is... I've never seen it on my iPod. |
| 03:09.23 | ScytheBlade1 | tekkub: that is an awesome feature |
| 03:09.30 | tekkub | indeed |
| 03:09.39 | tekkub | and only itunes, ipod, and foobar2000 have it |
| 03:09.49 | tekkub | WHY? |
| 03:10.04 | ScytheBlade1 | The part where the iPod has it shocks me |
| 03:10.14 | ScytheBlade1 | As they seem to revolve around people buying singles |
| 03:10.16 | tekkub | iPod touch and iPhone don't though |
| 03:10.25 | Osagasu | Well there. |
| 03:10.28 | tekkub | but it IS in the software, if you hack it you can turn it on |
| 03:12.20 | Kraps | "[kissing Rupert] felt like incest" |
| 03:12.27 | Kraps | yeah.... |
| 03:13.22 | Kraps | i can see how that is |
| 03:13.48 | Osagasu | I bet. |
| 03:14.08 | Osagasu | But poor, poor Rupert. |
| 03:14.09 | Shirik | tackles ScytheBlade1 |
| 03:14.32 | Arrowmaster | see i just stoped listening to music, i used to have over 10,000 mp3s like 5 years ago but when i lost them due to drive failures i just said fuck it and dont really listen to music at all except for the radio when im in my car, although 5 years ago i also wreaked my car that had a 6disc cd changer in the trunk and the car i have now just has a single disc player in the dash |
| 03:14.36 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, what process in windows besides javaw.exe does minion use? |
| 03:14.58 | Shirik | that's the only one except when it's installing/updating itself |
| 03:15.13 | Thunder_Child | it's not launching :( |
| 03:15.19 | Thunder_Child | that launches, but nothing else |
| 03:15.33 | Arrowmaster | update java? |
| 03:16.15 | Thunder_Child | well minion used to and neither java nor minion have changed |
| 03:16.38 | Adys | mikma: thanks a lot, fixing |
| 03:16.41 | ScytheBlade1 | stabs Shirik |
| 03:17.11 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Check the log file |
| 03:17.18 | Shirik | it might be launching and dying for some reason |
| 03:17.32 | Adys | ~seen Maldivia |
| 03:17.34 | purl | maldivia is currently on #wowuidev (11d 20h 2m 40s). Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 7d 6h 14m 33s, last said: 'if you kill any before the 8th spawn, no hard-mode for you'. |
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| 03:19.28 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, http://wowuidev.pastey.net/117956 |
| 03:19.50 | Shirik | did you recently update java? |
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| 03:19.55 | Shirik | or change computers? |
| 03:19.55 | Thunder_Child | i dont think so |
| 03:20.01 | Thunder_Child | i changed a vid card |
| 03:20.05 | Thunder_Child | but thats it |
| 03:20.07 | Shirik | That error is very common when using the 32 bit library on 64 bit java or vice-versa |
| 03:20.47 | Thunder_Child | i did install the 32-bit for another program that needed it |
| 03:20.54 | Thunder_Child | but i have both afaik |
| 03:20.55 | Shirik | maybe your default java changed |
| 03:21.01 | Kraps | this interviewer fails http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyiJkdenmLs&feature=channel |
| 03:21.06 | Shirik | actually that's probably what happened |
| 03:21.12 | Shirik | because when you installed the java app it will re-associated the jar file |
| 03:21.14 | airtonix | who has seen that german movie about a world where firemen are information control officers and police the world of books ? |
| 03:24.50 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, i changed the env var. still no go |
| 03:29.47 | Kraps | watching hogans heroes |
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| 03:32.36 | Shirik | lmao |
| 03:32.38 | Shirik | best song ever |
| 03:32.38 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsM3xMnfaB0 |
| 03:33.54 | Arrowmaster | omg linking that to my russian friend |
| 03:35.03 | Adys | Anyone with chrome? |
| 03:35.35 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/spells/?spell_text__regex=G[a-z]*:[a-z]*; Could you go to this url, tell me the amount of result |
| 03:35.42 | Adys | then go to this one: http://db.mmo-champion.com/spells/?spell_text__regex=G[a-z]*:[a-z]*%3B |
| 03:35.48 | Adys | but dont click |
| 03:35.50 | Adys | copypaste the url |
| 03:37.36 | Adys | Chrome windows btw |
| 03:37.56 | kd3 | oh adys; you need a filter for |g |
| 03:38.05 | kd3 | http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/13959/back-to-the-orphanage/ |
| 03:38.26 | End | I get 20 and 18 |
| 03:38.39 | Adys | kd3: ya I know, planned to fix it inline, gonna do that now |
| 03:38.53 | Adys | I dont use the same engine for spell texts and quest texts |
| 03:42.22 | ScytheBlade1 | http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/13959/adys-sucks/ |
| 03:42.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I love those URLs |
| 03:42.35 | ScytheBlade1 | So much to exploit |
| 03:43.25 | Adys | they're indecently laxist |
| 03:43.30 | Adys | or modulable, call it whatever |
| 03:44.11 | Adys | Ill give a nobel prize or three to the one who manages to bug them out |
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| 03:46.58 | airtonix | [three hours later and a lack of nobel prizes...] |
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| 03:49.03 | kd3 | ahahaha |
| 03:49.10 | kd3 | the oracle orphan: "We can has aged yolk?" |
| 03:49.22 | Adys | lol |
| 03:49.37 | Arrowmaster | http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/13959/%22DROP%20DATABASE;%22/ |
| 03:49.41 | Arrowmaster | i dont win do i |
| 03:50.40 | Adys | here's the nobel prize of "at least i tried" |
| 03:52.07 | Kraps | http://www.fiberone.com/copingwithdisbelief/default.aspx?type=cereal |
| 03:53.51 | Adys | http://www.fiberone.com/copingwithdisbelief/images/getflash.jpg |
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| 04:19.49 | Shirik | I'll show you my ghost |
| 04:20.19 | Thunder_Child | um...ew? |
| 04:21.11 | Shirik | for the record, Cairenn didn't pull my quote out of context |
| 04:21.14 | Shirik | she totally misquoted me |
| 04:21.30 | Cairenn | no I didn't :) |
| 04:23.56 | Shirik | ok, something is severely fucked up with wow's connection management. Sorry to say it, but it is |
| 04:24.16 | Shirik | It seems to enjoy dropping perfectly good connections during startup |
| 04:25.08 | kd3 | winces at today's xkcd |
| 04:26.34 | Wobin | http://komplexify.com/epsilon/2009/05/21/ultimate-test/ |
| 04:29.10 | Seerah | "you will find a piano under your desk" |
| 04:29.14 | Seerah | awesome :) |
| 04:29.32 | Shirik | I don't get it, kd3 |
| 04:32.30 | Seerah | Shirik: according to wikipedia... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_body_problem#Three-body_problem |
| 04:36.43 | Adys | kd3: http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/13959/back-to-the-orphanage/ |
| 04:36.58 | kd3 | yay |
| 04:37.04 | Adys | hm |
| 04:37.07 | Adys | need to stripspaces |
| 04:37.35 | kd3 | and the <name> on the last line didn't show |
| 04:37.46 | kd3 | "We going to miss you, ." |
| 04:38.22 | Adys | oh yea |
| 04:38.25 | Adys | also |
| 04:38.26 | kd3 | oh, hah. it is there, just acting like a html tag instead of using </> |
| 04:38.39 | Adys | yeah I marked_safe too early |
| 04:38.48 | Adys | my best coding line, EVER |
| 04:38.53 | Adys | male, female = male.strip(), female.strip() |
| 04:39.03 | kd3 | ! |
| 04:39.14 | kd3 | thinks of that bash joke |
| 04:39.19 | Adys | which? |
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| 04:40.29 | kd3 | http://bash.org/?10171 |
| 04:41.16 | airtonix | guttertrash |
| 04:42.05 | Adys | kd3: http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/13959/back-to-the-orphanage/ there |
| 04:42.25 | Adys | and rofl |
| 04:42.27 | Adys | i remember this one |
| 04:43.49 | Jiminizer | Hmm I manage to add a tab to the PVP panel ok, and it works, but you have to change tabs before it becomes clickable? I fell like I'm missing some sort of update function maybe? |
| 04:46.25 | Dagmar | Adys: I kinda feel bad because when I sent in the feedback I was all "WTF! I trotted that lizard all over the continent and get *nothing* for it? |
| 04:46.36 | kd3 | dag; same |
| 04:46.47 | kd3 | that and I was bitching about not seeing the script event on nearly every quest |
| 04:46.55 | kd3 | and that they could've ordered the quests better |
| 04:47.50 | Adys | ROFL GOOGLE READER |
| 04:47.58 | Adys | wow |
| 04:48.01 | Adys | sec. |
| 04:48.22 | Dagmar | kd3: Well, I *did* get a little lizard-boy in the mail |
| 04:48.41 | Dagmar | They're going to have to do some tail spinning on that tho |
| 04:48.51 | Dagmar | It kinda seems like maybe the little wanker decided to mail himself out |
| 04:49.09 | Wobin | Dagmar: I've seen that happen |
| 04:49.10 | kd3 | did you notice the progess text when you turned him in? |
| 04:49.24 | Wobin | except it's usually the older sibling mailing the younger one to Tajikstan |
| 04:49.27 | Dagmar | Looked like "Thanks for carrying me all over!" to me |
| 04:49.30 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Back_To_The_Orphanage_%28Oracles%29#Progress |
| 04:50.06 | kd3 | only quest I've ever seen where the progress text isn't from the person you're talking to |
| 04:51.37 | Dagmar | It's definitely weird that you get an oracle |
| 04:52.44 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/reader.png |
| 04:52.55 | Adys | "22 people liked this" I love that. |
| 04:53.52 | Dagmar | I liked the bit where he said "We can has aged yolk?" |
| 04:53.57 | Dagmar | Gotta love lolcats |
| 04:54.28 | Dagmar | I figured it was like the orphan boy that was asking for _weapons_... Probably not a good idea to even try it |
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| 04:54.56 | DWSR | ahaha today's xkcd is fucking awesome. |
| 04:55.07 | Adys | today's QC too |
| 04:55.23 | Dagmar | Oh the fun bit is that a friend of mine is over here trying to copy 1.4Tb from one array to another, too |
| 04:55.36 | kd3 | ick |
| 04:56.36 | Arrowmaster | heh google reader is recommending lua-users wiki rss feed to me |
| 04:57.06 | Adys | google reader is very awesome |
| 04:57.29 | DWSR | reader? |
| 04:57.57 | Arrowmaster | omg, the tab explosion xkcd from the other day is so true, i was just stuck in that same situation a few days ago |
| 04:58.41 | kd3 | where he got linked to tvtropes? been there... done that... need to buy the tshirt |
| 04:59.00 | Arrowmaster | yeah but thats from like 5 days ago, i did the same thing like 3 days ago |
| 04:59.16 | kd3 | it's also a replay of http://xkcd.com/214/ |
| 04:59.29 | tekkub | I'm like that with imdb |
| 04:59.38 | tekkub | roh and I fight over some guy in some show |
| 04:59.42 | tekkub | then I have to prove it |
| 04:59.45 | tekkub | and gt stuck |
| 05:00.09 | Arrowmaster | imdb isnt that great though other than just for actor listings |
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| 05:02.27 | Arrowmaster | when did you take that pick Adys? its up to over 50 now |
| 05:04.29 | Adys | Arrowmaster: which? |
| 05:04.30 | Adys | oh |
| 05:04.33 | Adys | like 10 mins ago |
| 05:05.57 | Arrowmaster | oh thats creapy |
| 05:06.09 | Arrowmaster | you can get a list of the people that marked it as liked |
| 05:06.16 | Adys | yeah |
| 05:06.25 | Adys | reader tells you that when you click "I like" |
| 05:06.55 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: ping |
| 05:07.14 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, kinda pong |
| 05:07.28 | Shirik | did you ever get that problem resolved? |
| 05:07.50 | DWSR | Shirik: You act on my PM? |
| 05:08.31 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, no. but thats because i got busy with Ulduar |
| 05:23.58 | DWSR | Anyone here play PopCap's Plants vs. Zombies? |
| 05:24.48 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 05:25.01 | DWSR | Don't you want to nom nom it? |
| 05:25.07 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 05:25.18 | DWSR | I got to the level where you get Torchwood. |
| 05:25.26 | DWSR | And then the final stage (4-10 I think?) |
| 05:25.58 | DWSR | Where they just give you shit to play with, so I just build a row of torchwood in front of 2x rows of threepeaters. NOMed on my enemies. You beat adventure mode yet? |
| 05:26.12 | DWSR | s/build/built/ |
| 05:26.21 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 05:26.53 | DWSR | How far are you |
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| 05:33.36 | Thunder_Child | good question |
| 05:33.40 | Thunder_Child | i havent played in a while |
| 05:35.02 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, 4-3 |
| 05:35.11 | DWSR | ah.\ |
| 05:35.25 | DWSR | You haven't received the Torchwood upgrade yet, or the twin sunflower upgrade yet either probably. |
| 05:35.32 | DWSR | Dude, Twin sunflower freakin' owned. |
| 05:35.34 | DWSR | owns* |
| 05:35.45 | Thunder_Child | i have twin sunflower |
| 05:35.51 | Thunder_Child | it's not that expensive |
| 05:36.17 | DWSR | Oh wait, I'm on 4-2. |
| 05:36.21 | DWSR | I thought I was on 5-2. |
| 05:36.48 | DWSR | Frakin' fog though, eh? |
| 05:36.54 | Thunder_Child | no kidding |
| 05:37.31 | DWSR | I build 1x row of Twin Sunflowers. |
| 05:37.38 | DWSR | I currently have 1.5k sunlight doing nothing |
| 05:38.32 | DWSR | What's the baloon zombie do? |
| 05:38.32 | DWSR | Fly over everything? |
| 05:38.32 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 05:38.34 | DWSR | fail. |
| 05:38.36 | Thunder_Child | need the cactus to kill it |
| 05:38.43 | DWSR | Does he fly over the Tall-nut too? |
| 05:38.53 | Thunder_Child | not sure about that one |
| 05:39.54 | DWSR | you got the 9 slot upgrade yet? |
| 05:40.09 | Thunder_Child | how many do you start with? |
| 05:40.47 | DWSR | I think 7. |
| 05:40.50 | DWSR | I'm at 8 atm. |
| 05:41.01 | DWSR | Crazy dave offers you the upgrade |
| 05:41.08 | DWSR | before you can visit his shop |
| 05:41.28 | Thunder_Child | then i have 8, i only upgraded once |
| 05:41.58 | DWSR | btw, your plants shoot zombies in the fog, even if you can't see them. |
| 05:42.11 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 05:42.51 | DWSR | ? |
| 05:43.40 | Thunder_Child | ever heard the expresssion "Teach your grandmother to suck eggs"? |
| 05:43.47 | DWSR | no..? |
| 05:44.39 | Thunder_Child | nvm then |
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| 05:47.44 | DWSR | anyone for some TF2? |
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| 05:55.39 | Shirik | so Cairenn |
| 05:55.42 | Shirik | you going to prove that quote? |
| 05:55.53 | Shirik | I noticed all you did was take the political move and go "nuh uh!" |
| 05:58.15 | Cairenn | (2009-07-20 23:43:50) Shirik: (I'm not like Cairenn|afk where) I can pull a completely out of context quote out of my ass |
| 05:59.21 | Shirik | Hey, that's not out of context |
| 05:59.25 | Shirik | that's just completely changing it |
| 05:59.50 | Shirik | That would be like if I took any one of your sentences and put ... in the place of a negation |
| 06:00.08 | Shirik | (21:21:30) (@Cairenn) no I didn't :) |
| 06:00.15 | Shirik | (21:21:30) (@Cairenn) ...I did... |
| 06:00.19 | Shirik | there we go |
| 06:00.35 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 06:00.51 | Cairenn | what do you think taking things out of context means, silly? |
| 06:01.01 | Cairenn | it's often taking out parts of the sentence |
| 06:01.27 | Wobin | http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25781068-401,00.html <-- Cairenn |
| 06:03.13 | Shirik | Cairenn will probably kill me for this |
| 06:03.16 | Shirik | but I'm going to do it anyway! |
| 06:03.18 | Shirik | it's her fault! |
| 06:03.23 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:03.30 | Cairenn | be careful Shirik |
| 06:03.45 | Shirik | (23:00:50) (@Cairenn) ... you ... out of ... me ... |
| 06:03.47 | Shirik | hides |
| 06:04.08 | Shirik | that's almost as bad as the 10 I think |
| 06:04.20 | Cairenn | I dare you to fill in the blanks .... |
| 06:04.33 | Shirik | I think going to sleep is better for my health |
| 06:04.52 | Shirik | Besides |
| 06:04.55 | Shirik | you totally said that |
| 06:05.04 | Shirik | adding words would no longer make it a quote |
| 06:05.08 | ReAn | permutates urbandictionary into all the blanks and saves the list somewhere >_> |
| 06:05.12 | Thunder_Child | (23:00:50) (@Cairenn) ... you got a 10 out of ... me ... <-- fixd |
| 06:05.22 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 06:06.32 | Thunder_Child | s/out of/in/ |
| 06:06.49 | Thunder_Child | ...i coud not help myself |
| 06:07.32 | kd3 | winces |
| 06:08.01 | Vilkku | anyone knows if there are pirate/hacked mobile authenticators which works with phones people use? |
| 06:09.33 | DWSR | it'd be nice if they just wrote it in java |
| 06:09.40 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 06:09.43 | Arrowmaster | its j2me |
| 06:09.48 | DWSR | Then why can't it work on my SE phone? |
| 06:09.58 | Arrowmaster | because the provider is fucking lazy |
| 06:10.09 | kd3 | ^ |
| 06:10.19 | Arrowmaster | Fisker got a copy of the jar |
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| 06:14.09 | Vilkku | DWSR, because when you download it a check is performed, it checks model only |
| 06:14.16 | Vilkku | if your model is not on the list, no luck |
| 06:14.30 | Vilkku | I tried getting a version for another nokia phone, same OS version, same screen resolution |
| 06:14.35 | Vilkku | still bitched |
| 06:15.20 | Vilkku | Arrowmaster, any clue how it actually works tho? does every downloaded authenticator have some unique code or something? |
| 06:15.21 | DWSR | It would be nice if someone could hack it to work with my SE |
| 06:15.27 | Arrowmaster | try to find out what the useragent is for that model |
| 06:15.47 | Arrowmaster | Vilkku: no clue but Fisker didnt think the jar's were unique |
| 06:15.49 | Vilkku | Arrowmaster, how should I change it on my phone? :P |
| 06:16.11 | Arrowmaster | spoof it on your computer then put the file on a webhost |
| 06:16.19 | Arrowmaster | download it on phone |
| 06:16.45 | Arrowmaster | used that trick like 5 years ago to get midi ringtones on a friends phone |
| 06:16.59 | Vilkku | heh :P |
| 06:17.48 | Arrowmaster | he really wanted the ff7 battle theme on his phone |
| 06:17.57 | Vilkku | :P |
| 06:18.03 | Dagmar | You're highly unlike to find any "hacked" authenticators |
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| 06:18.33 | Dagmar | Part of the reason the things are secure is that they contain a "sekrit numbar" which is part of the calculations used to generate the token, and identify *your token* |
| 06:18.43 | Dagmar | So, just give that idea up |
| 06:18.59 | Arrowmaster | that likely is generated on the phone the first time its run |
| 06:19.04 | Vilkku | idd |
| 06:19.11 | Dagmar | Very likely |
| 06:19.11 | Vilkku | also |
| 06:19.12 | Vilkku | Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.2; U; Series60/3.1 NokiaN95/10.0.018; Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 ) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/413 |
| 06:19.16 | Vilkku | let's see if this works :P |
| 06:19.19 | Dagmar | ...but I sure as hell wouldn't trust one coming from a third party anyway |
| 06:19.45 | Dagmar | Actually... |
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| 06:20.24 | Dagmar | Unless the phone app gives you a number to feed to Blizz on the first run, I kinda doubt it's generating a key on it's own--unless it's quietly spewing said number back at Blizz over SMS when it runs |
| 06:20.51 | Dagmar | I mean, it sounds like a good idea on the surface, but if it were the sort of thing the software on Blizz's end could guess it wouldn't be a very good token generator |
| 06:21.00 | DWSR | Dagmar: They aren't. |
| 06:21.06 | DWSR | Dagmar: It's a pure-software implementation of RSA |
| 06:21.07 | Dagmar | What aren't what |
| 06:21.12 | Arrowmaster | ask Fisker, but im almost positive you have to input the serial into blizz system first |
| 06:21.12 | DWSR | err, an RSA tag rather |
| 06:21.12 | Dagmar | Yeah, so |
| 06:21.15 | ZorbaBeta | dagmar, if the phone app works anything like the physical dongle, there's a serial number you type in to register it |
| 06:21.24 | Dagmar | The "hardware" tokens are software too. |
| 06:21.30 | Arrowmaster | http://i27.tinypic.com/24bn96e.jpg |
| 06:21.31 | Dagmar | ZorbaBeta: Ahhh... Cool |
| 06:21.32 | DWSR | Dagmar: Aye |
| 06:21.39 | Dagmar | That would make it doable. |
| 06:21.49 | ZorbaBeta | presumably on the phone app the serial number is either embedded by Blizzard, or derived from some unique ID on your phone, or randomly generated on your phone |
| 06:22.06 | Dagmar | The ones I've worked with there's no serial the user types in. The admin/key-managers put the id into the database, THEN they ship the token |
| 06:22.13 | Arrowmaster | im guessing randomly generated on first run then stored somewhere |
| 06:22.16 | ZorbaBeta | so in theory, you could intercept wherever it's getting the unique data from and copy it over to another phone. But I don't know if anyone's actually done that. |
| 06:22.20 | Dagmar | Probably randomly generated if it gives you a serial |
| 06:22.39 | Dagmar | Well, you'd have to hack the thing to take your *supplied* serial |
| 06:23.11 | Arrowmaster | if its a true rsa that could cause issues |
| 06:23.14 | Dagmar | It's not a super-complex thing that it's doing |
| 06:23.27 | Dagmar | ...it's just the nature of the math it uses that makes it secure |
| 06:23.52 | Arrowmaster | since true rsa systems actually do a time resync everytime you use them, the server records the time drift of the token unit |
| 06:23.59 | DWSR | It's computationally intensive math |
| 06:24.22 | Vilkku | blizzard_mobile_auth_EU_BMA_240x320_N95_1_0_0.jad |
| 06:24.24 | Vilkku | success! |
| 06:24.42 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 06:25.11 | Arrowmaster | still wondering where the fuck the android one is |
| 06:25.20 | Dagmar | With a few day's research anyone with some decent algebra skills could write their own system for it once they understand the concept |
| 06:25.20 | Dagmar | I've done it |
| 06:25.21 | Dagmar | I just have serious respect for RSA for managing to get it accepted so I wouldn't mess with diluting their patent |
| 06:25.21 | Dagmar | That having been said, the port knocker I use does use such a system. |
| 06:25.40 | Dagmar | DWSR: nope. |
| 06:25.45 | Dagmar | It's really really simple actually |
| 06:25.47 | Vilkku | also, added bonus |
| 06:25.52 | Vilkku | got a text saying I won't be billed :P |
| 06:26.00 | Vilkku | because I forgot to switch the user agent first |
| 06:26.16 | ZorbaBeta | arrow, it'd only be a problem if your token copies are significantly desynched. I imagine cellphone-based ones synch based off atomic time |
| 06:26.17 | Dagmar | To make the code stay put for a minute, you need something like epoch time rounded to the nearest minute. You xor that with your key, then hash it, and you're practically done |
| 06:26.52 | Dagmar | SecureID shuffles numbers around a bit so it actually checks against several time periods in either direction before it calls foul |
| 06:27.16 | Dagmar | That way the server stays in synch even if the keyfob's clock drifts (and it WILL drift if you drop it in a snowbank or something for awhile) |
| 06:27.45 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaBeta: cellphones are shitty and sync from the towers, except although all mine have been older cellphones theyve all synced the time with the towers and not had any sort of DST tracking so they would be wrong for upto 6 hours after a DST switchover |
| 06:28.02 | Dagmar | Let's not forget when the fatass cell tech sets the clock for the cell tower wrong |
| 06:28.09 | Dagmar | That used to happen around here... pissed me off to no end |
| 06:28.38 | Arrowmaster | how fucking hard is it to just make everything use NTP |
| 06:28.53 | Dagmar | The tower nearest my house was nearly 8 minutes slow, so I'd drive to work, be 2 minutes away, think I'm good to go, then my phone synchs time to the new tower and suddenly 10 minutes elapse in the time it takes me to walk a block |
| 06:29.06 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Cell phone companies are still telcos |
| 06:29.12 | Dagmar | Never assume they have intelligent people working on them |
| 06:29.20 | Arrowmaster | telcos and cable companys can all DIAF |
| 06:29.24 | Vilkku | oh what the hell =( invalid jar file it says now |
| 06:29.29 | Dagmar | Agreed. |
| 06:29.36 | Arrowmaster | Vilkku: atleast you arent being billed |
| 06:29.43 | Vilkku | Arrowmaster, :D |
| 06:30.14 | Arrowmaster | does your phone run on the same OS as the N95? |
| 06:32.46 | Vilkku | yup |
| 06:32.58 | Vilkku | I think I know what the problem is |
| 06:33.08 | Vilkku | the download link points to a package |
| 06:33.10 | Vilkku | you download that |
| 06:33.18 | Vilkku | that package has the download information |
| 06:33.26 | Vilkku | I managed to get the actual installer as well |
| 06:33.34 | Vilkku | but that doesn't seem to work, either |
| 06:34.15 | Vilkku | actually, I didn't get the correct jar file |
| 06:36.22 | Vilkku | so, I have the jad file... how the hell do I get the correct jar? |
| 06:36.25 | haste | ~wowalert |
| 06:36.25 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
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| 06:41.10 | Vilkku | cannot be handeled |
| 06:41.12 | Vilkku | meh |
| 06:41.12 | Vilkku | well |
| 06:41.25 | Vilkku | I got this far, I bet someone manages to do it all the way |
| 06:45.16 | Dagmar | Meh. Get some java tools and open that thing up--see what's inside it |
| 06:45.22 | Dagmar | It might give you some clues |
| 06:45.44 | Dagmar | In theory, _somewhere_ in there is java code |
| 06:45.51 | Dagmar | It might just be in the wrong byte order or something |
| 06:45.57 | Dagmar | er for the phone I mean |
| 06:46.01 | Vilkku | Dagmar, no I opened the jad file fine |
| 06:46.10 | Dagmar | I mean open it on your PC. |
| 06:46.14 | Vilkku | I did |
| 06:46.18 | Vilkku | it's like a toc file |
| 06:46.22 | Vilkku | has descriptions etc |
| 06:46.30 | Vilkku | it also had the url to the jar |
| 06:46.48 | Vilkku | but when I entered that url into my download manager it just downloaded the download page .jar |
| 06:47.08 | Vilkku | and when I tried it on my phone it just said unknown jar |
| 06:47.16 | Arrowmaster | Vilkku: you need to pass the referrer i think |
| 06:47.26 | Dagmar | Hmm... must be something server side checking the client headers |
| 06:47.27 | Vilkku | Arrowmaster, I suppose that is the issue |
| 06:47.43 | Vilkku | it was the phone who whined about the jar, not the browser |
| 06:47.56 | Dagmar | _Your_ phone probably got the same "wrong" response as you did |
| 06:48.14 | Vilkku | hmm, suppose |
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| 06:48.48 | Dagmar | ...cuz it's _really_ easy to do magical redirects based on the identifier string the fetching client sends |
| 06:49.07 | Dagmar | ...and if a particular piece of software is meant for a specific type of phone, and that phone only, well... |
| 06:49.26 | DWSR | we hacking the mobile authenticator jar? |
| 06:49.38 | Dagmar | I would be suprised to hear someone _did_ do that, but like I said it's trivial to make happen |
| 06:49.46 | Vilkku | DWSR, not as much hacking as just trying to download it to an unsupported phone |
| 06:50.08 | Vilkku | got a phone with same os version and screen resolution as the n95 |
| 06:50.08 | Dagmar | DWSR: If it weren't that I would probably *not* be giving him any suggestions |
| 06:50.21 | Vilkku | spoofing the user agent to get some files, but still refuses to install |
| 06:51.03 | DWSR | getting it to download is a step. :) |
| 06:51.15 | Arrowmaster | did you get a proper jar yet? |
| 06:51.40 | Dagmar | A shame you can't tether the phone and force it to grab stuff through something you control. |
| 06:51.49 | Vilkku | Arrowmaster, no, I stopped/paused for breakfeast |
| 06:51.54 | Dagmar | You can do *mean* things to a nintendo DS that way. :) |
| 06:51.56 | Vilkku | also, phone had software update |
| 06:51.58 | Vilkku | so I did that |
| 06:54.52 | Jiminizer | any reason that frame:SetScript("OnClick", print("test")); just prints test rather than setting the script? |
| 06:54.58 | Jiminizer | Am I doin it wrong? =P |
| 06:55.28 | DWSR | Jiminizer: I think the answer is rather apparent, wouldn't you? |
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| 06:55.49 | Jiminizer | No? |
| 06:55.59 | Jiminizer | Otherwise I woudln't have asked =P |
| 06:56.06 | DWSR | Jiminizer: Am I doin it wrong? =P <-- Yes? |
| 06:56.10 | Arrowmaster | frame:SetScript("OnClick", function() print("test") end) |
| 06:56.24 | Jiminizer | Thanks Arrowmaster :) |
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| 07:24.27 | ccox | hmm, am I disconnected - or is everything suspiciously quiet tonight? |
| 07:25.08 | Vilkku | ccox, reading you lound and clear |
| 07:25.25 | ccox | ok, that means that they're up to something :-) |
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| 07:31.11 | Thunder_Child | "they"? |
| 07:31.21 | Cairenn | is innocent |
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| 07:31.39 | Thunder_Child | never Cairenn |
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| 07:51.09 | Torhal_ | Cairenn: ...as the driven-on snow? |
| 07:51.20 | Torhal_ | I'm sorry, that would be "pure". My mistake. |
| 08:01.28 | Recluse | Is it possible to clear the last line of a tooltip without saving all the line aside from it, clearing the tooltip, and re-adding them all? |
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| 08:02.03 | bluspacecow | opera ftw |
| 08:02.04 | bluspacecow | Brindisi: Libiamo, Ne'Lieti Calici |
| 08:02.17 | bluspacecow | Luciano Pavarotti, Joan Sutherland |
| 08:02.22 | bluspacecow | Verdi FTW ! |
| 08:02.33 | bluspacecow | *gets into tuskar costume* |
| 08:02.37 | bluspacecow | *pretends to sing* |
| 08:02.52 | Torhal_ | Recluse: Re-adding all previous lines implicitly means saving them beforehand. |
| 08:04.26 | Recluse | well, yes and that would be a mess, which is why I was hoping I could simply... lop off the last line hehe |
| 08:05.27 | bluspacecow | Going through bookmarks 5 years old :( |
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| 08:12.12 | Arrowmaster | Recluse: its possible but apparently has some issues |
| 08:13.02 | Arrowmaster | i think if you call fontstring:settext(nil) on the fontstring for that line then force a tooltip:show() it works |
| 08:15.00 | Recluse | Hrm, that can't be added to an onshow hook (infinite loop?), so should it be in the tooltip's onupdate with a check that the line is the one i wanna remove, or will that still cause a looping error? |
| 08:15.32 | Arrowmaster | you should be using the ontooltip* script handlers |
| 08:15.37 | Arrowmaster | ALWAYS |
| 08:16.18 | Arrowmaster | i take that back, objects in the 3d world dont trigger ontooltip* handlers |
| 08:16.34 | Recluse | well, currently I have written some GameTooltip:HookScript("On_____", myFunc) things. |
| 08:16.37 | Arrowmaster | but when you can you should always be using ontooltip* handlers |
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| 08:22.04 | Recluse | The issue is that I wanna add a line of text that says who the target/mouseover is targetting in the tip. I've got it working... But if I don't remove the line prior to the next update - well then you get a billion lines :p I'll set a flag to know if I've added the line, and then on subsequent adds, I'll perform a remove first. I think that'll work. |
| 08:22.31 | jnwhiteh | hold on a sec |
| 08:22.51 | jnwhiteh | Recluse: http://wowprogramming.com/snippets/Add_lines_to_item_tooltip_safely_9 may help you |
| 08:23.05 | Recluse | Heh, sounds like it might :) |
| 08:23.11 | jnwhiteh | basically you only add the line after the tooltip has been cleared, so subsequent updates don't spam the tooltip. |
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| 08:23.57 | Recluse | How often is the tooltip cleared? Each update which has a change? |
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| 08:24.16 | Arrowmaster | you dont need to use that at all, just use OnTooltipSetUnit |
| 08:24.34 | jnwhiteh | yeah I may have misunderstood the problem. |
| 08:24.35 | Arrowmaster | it wont be called more than once |
| 08:24.53 | jnwhiteh | Arrowmaster: that doesn't work in the case of items, but yeah I misread what the problem was. |
| 08:25.11 | Recluse | Well, I do it it to update if/when the target/mouseover changes their target to reflect the new target, but that's the only necessary update I need to check for. |
| 08:25.12 | jnwhiteh | You just want to, when you mouse over someone, display the name of who they are targeting? |
| 08:25.33 | Recluse | Correct, and update when they change if the tip is still shown at that time. |
| 08:25.45 | Arrowmaster | that might not be possible |
| 08:25.54 | jnwhiteh | then you can just change the line in the tooltip directly, although that's not 'easy' |
| 08:26.14 | Recluse | It must be (though maybe involved), CowTip, TipTac and others have that ability. |
| 08:26.18 | Arrowmaster | changing the line directly is oh so ugly |
| 08:26.26 | jnwhiteh | yep it is. |
| 08:26.42 | jnwhiteh | the other option it to re-set the tooltip |
| 08:26.45 | jnwhiteh | so write an OnTooltipSetUnit |
| 08:26.48 | jnwhiteh | that adds the line |
| 08:26.52 | Recluse | yep, got one. |
| 08:26.53 | jnwhiteh | then write an event handler (or whatever) |
| 08:26.56 | Arrowmaster | Recluse: just try it with OnTooltipSetUnit, it probably works fine |
| 08:27.04 | jnwhiteh | that re-sets the tooltip to the unit when they change targets |
| 08:28.25 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:28.28 | Fisker | "Oops" |
| 08:29.03 | Adys | Anyone on OSX Leopard? |
| 08:29.09 | Adys | jnwhiteh maybe? |
| 08:29.29 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 08:29.31 | jnwhiteh | on both machines |
| 08:29.32 | jnwhiteh | que pasa |
| 08:29.37 | Adys | can you do `which perl' ? |
| 08:30.11 | jnwhiteh | mine is installed from macports or something else. |
| 08:30.19 | jnwhiteh | so its not default |
| 08:30.25 | Adys | doesnt matter |
| 08:30.34 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:30.43 | jnwhiteh | and /opt/local/bin/perl |
| 08:30.54 | Recluse | With only calling the add in SetUnit, I get the initial text, but it does not update until I re-mouse over the unit (expected result). Now, I should listen for... UNIT_TARGET perhaps? |
| 08:31.04 | jnwhiteh | 5.8.8 on default leopard install at the first path |
| 08:31.21 | jnwhiteh | Recluse: it's a place to start, yes. |
| 08:31.45 | Adys | thanks :) |
| 08:31.49 | Recluse | I'll be sure to filter out unnecessary units XD |
| 08:33.48 | Adys | So Ive been working since over 3 hours on adding id assignment to fkeys in django, for queryset.update() |
| 08:33.50 | Arrowmaster | its going to get ugly fast |
| 08:33.55 | Adys | 3 fucking hours |
| 08:33.59 | Adys | 3, fucking, hours |
| 08:34.05 | Adys | this is the patch |
| 08:34.05 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/69841/ |
| 08:34.32 | jnwhiteh | heh wow |
| 08:34.42 | jnwhiteh | ive not been impressed with django when i played with it |
| 08:34.43 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
| 08:35.01 | Adys | django never ceases to impress/amaze me, in very good ways |
| 08:35.11 | Adys | but too often I hit a cockblock and have to modify the core |
| 08:35.18 | jnwhiteh | *nod* so people say |
| 08:35.24 | jnwhiteh | its just my style of doing things |
| 08:35.35 | Adys | mind you |
| 08:35.56 | Adys | for absolutely NO reason whatsoever i'd switch to another python framework |
| 08:36.14 | Adys | most django features really are amazing |
| 08:36.34 | jnwhiteh | didn't a new web framework just come out |
| 08:36.38 | Adys | its just a bunch of bad design decisions, developers who contradict themselves etc that end up in ugly quirks |
| 08:36.43 | Adys | which one? |
| 08:36.45 | bluspacecow | which perl = /usr/bin/perl |
| 08:36.51 | jnwhiteh | Adys: much like my opinion of python itself |
| 08:36.56 | jnwhiteh | although it has gotten much better |
| 08:37.01 | jnwhiteh | but that's not from a practical standpoint |
| 08:37.05 | jnwhiteh | its from a development/education standpoint |
| 08:37.09 | Arrowmaster | if you have to go modifing the core so much that would be an indication that something very very wrong with it to me |
| 08:37.17 | Adys | maybe |
| 08:37.28 | Adys | but its not much to that |
| 08:37.37 | Adys | its more to the fact supporting wow data is fucked up to the core |
| 08:37.55 | jnwhiteh | its unconventional, but i'm very happy with the framework i went with for wowprogramming |
| 08:38.02 | Adys | its in lua right? |
| 08:38.04 | jnwhiteh | i looked at django, ruby, drupal and about 10 others |
| 08:38.05 | Arrowmaster | but there are good reasons ill never fucking touch web development with a 10 foot pole for anything other than personal use |
| 08:38.05 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 08:38.10 | jnwhiteh | using sputnik as the backend |
| 08:38.15 | jnwhiteh | which isn't always the greatest fit |
| 08:38.20 | jnwhiteh | but its just so clear and concise |
| 08:38.25 | Adys | lua web frameworks put me off |
| 08:38.32 | jnwhiteh | why? |
| 08:38.34 | Adys | just in general trying to do oop with languages that dont favour it |
| 08:38.39 | jnwhiteh | O.o |
| 08:38.44 | jnwhiteh | we dont use OOp anywhere |
| 08:38.44 | bluspacecow | Arrow : because it would drive you even more insane then you already are ? |
| 08:39.05 | jnwhiteh | well anywhere is a bit too strong, but its hardly used |
| 08:39.08 | Adys | frameworks do, thats the whole "point" of frameworks |
| 08:39.18 | Arrowmaster | bluspacecow: no because i would get arested after murdering and choping the client up into little bits |
| 08:39.22 | Adys | well i cant say i know sputnik, im assuming |
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| 08:39.31 | bluspacecow | ah |
| 08:39.39 | bluspacecow | kinda hard to get paid if you kill the client |
| 08:39.42 | jnwhiteh | and I think Lua favors OOP jus tifne =) |
| 08:40.01 | Adys | it really doesnt |
| 08:40.07 | Adys | well |
| 08:40.10 | haste | why doesn't it? |
| 08:40.30 | Adys | compare it to c++/python oop :P |
| 08:40.38 | Adys | and if you tell me its not comparable, thats the whole point |
| 08:40.48 | jnwhiteh | python's oop is nice |
| 08:40.50 | jnwhiteh | c++ is shit |
| 08:40.52 | Arrowmaster | trying to do OOP that resembles certain languages in Lua is just stupid though, anything with multiple enharentace is just not doable in a clean+effecient way |
| 08:41.04 | jnwhiteh | Arrowmaster: nope, nor would i ever try to do it like that |
| 08:41.16 | jnwhiteh | i like the limited OOP i can choose to implement |
| 08:41.24 | haste | multiple inheritance :( |
| 08:41.28 | haste | glares at Tuller. |
| 08:41.36 | jnwhiteh | wowprogramming.com is written in 4971 lines of code |
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| 08:41.43 | haste | bloated! |
| 08:41.43 | Adys | jesus |
| 08:41.48 | Arrowmaster | this is why i hate on all the OOP libraries for wow whenever a new one pops up |
| 08:41.48 | jnwhiteh | the largest file of which has 800 lines of code |
| 08:41.58 | Adys | sigrie's like half of that |
| 08:42.05 | jnwhiteh | Adys: almost all of that is templates. |
| 08:42.07 | Adys | (excluding the dbc/wdb reader) |
| 08:42.10 | Adys | same here |
| 08:42.32 | haste | what the hell is sigrie's? |
| 08:42.33 | jnwhiteh | well you can't exclude those |
| 08:42.40 | jnwhiteh | because i have a metric shit-ton of custom processing that needs to happen |
| 08:42.42 | Adys | haste: db.mmo-champion.com |
| 08:43.03 | haste | oh the wowhead lookalike thingy |
| 08:43.11 | Adys | yeah, that |
| 08:43.12 | krka | jnwhiteh: does wow programming have much non-static content at all? |
| 08:43.20 | krka | except the interpreter |
| 08:43.27 | haste | the forum :p ? |
| 08:43.28 | jnwhiteh | krka: almost everything is dynamically generated |
| 08:43.28 | haste | the wiki :p ? |
| 08:43.40 | krka | hmm, perhaps it's just because i only read the api :P |
| 08:43.42 | jnwhiteh | every API function is described by a Lua table |
| 08:43.44 | krka | the api is static though? |
| 08:43.47 | krka | oh i see |
| 08:43.49 | Adys | theres a forum on wp? |
| 08:43.49 | jnwhiteh | krka: nope |
| 08:43.50 | bluspacecow | hmmm while i got you here jnwhite |
| 08:43.50 | Adys | O_o |
| 08:43.56 | bluspacecow | Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Support/lsregister \ |
| 08:43.56 | bluspacecow | -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user |
| 08:44.03 | bluspacecow | is that leopard or tiger ? |
| 08:44.05 | jnwhiteh | Adys: yep, the big "forums" button at the top |
| 08:44.13 | jnwhiteh | bluspacecow: is that to reset the dns cache? |
| 08:44.18 | jnwhiteh | if so i think its the tiger way to do it |
| 08:44.22 | krka | seems like it would be easy to make the api static, but i guess you don't really need that |
| 08:44.32 | bluspacecow | no to rebuild the launch services database |
| 08:44.34 | jnwhiteh | krka: the files are cached, but 50+ functions are updated a day |
| 08:44.39 | jnwhiteh | so it's not static, by nature |
| 08:45.03 | bluspacecow | sudo dscacheutil -flushcache is how to reset the dns on leopard |
| 08:45.43 | bluspacecow | nope thats for tiger |
| 08:45.59 | bluspacecow | which lsregister returns nothing on my 10.5.7 machine |
| 08:46.10 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 08:46.17 | bluspacecow | nothing in man |
| 08:46.18 | jnwhiteh | ive not found it necessary to do that on leopard |
| 08:46.21 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:46.23 | jnwhiteh | which it didn't before |
| 08:46.25 | jnwhiteh | so just edit it directly |
| 08:46.54 | bluspacecow | which one rebuild the launch services database or rebuild the dns cache ? |
| 08:47.12 | jnwhiteh | i dunno, I've never had the need to do the first |
| 08:48.26 | jnwhiteh | forgive my suck-age |
| 08:48.26 | krka | i see |
| 08:48.43 | bluspacecow | heh it happens |
| 08:49.30 | jnwhiteh | most of the code for wowprogramming is the XML comparison utility, the BLP browser, the Lua interpreter, localization strings and utility functions for the API bit. |
| 08:50.27 | jnwhiteh | the problem with sputnik is the fact that everything is document-based storage |
| 08:50.32 | jnwhiteh | which just doesn't work for certain applications |
| 08:50.39 | jnwhiteh | although it fits perfectly for the API |
| 08:50.54 | jnwhiteh | hence why over the past year I've been teh one leading development on sputnik =) |
| 08:51.02 | jnwhiteh | it's a nifty little wiki with lots of cool features |
| 08:51.07 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 08:51.27 | Antiarc | Are any of you allergic to extreme levels of stupidity? |
| 08:51.39 | Antiarc | If so, I would recommend that you avoid this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dChBN_zfofY |
| 08:51.39 | krka | can't be allergic to yourself! |
| 08:51.49 | Antiarc | Everyone else, come watch and recoil in sheer terror with me |
| 08:51.53 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: it tends to affect my sleep ability =) |
| 08:52.07 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: That video will keep you awake for at least a week solid then. |
| 08:53.00 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: sioraiocht's father is a real estate developer, and he has to deal with city council all the tiem |
| 08:53.08 | jnwhiteh | the first girl is amazing. |
| 08:53.10 | jnwhiteh | a-mazing. |
| 08:53.13 | Antiarc | Yes. She keeps going |
| 08:53.16 | Antiarc | Through the whole video |
| 08:53.19 | Antiarc | Just keep watching. |
| 08:53.46 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 08:53.55 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: you're in PHX-ish? |
| 08:53.58 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 08:54.04 | jnwhiteh | cool cool |
| 08:54.05 | Antiarc | Scottsdale, NE valley |
| 08:54.08 | Antiarc | You visiting? |
| 08:54.13 | jnwhiteh | drinks, you, me, dec 2010 |
| 08:54.14 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 08:54.19 | Antiarc | Deal! |
| 08:54.20 | jnwhiteh | if I don't get down there before then |
| 08:54.22 | Antiarc | Will you be at Blizzcon? |
| 08:54.28 | Antiarc | 'cuz I will be doing that too |
| 08:54.41 | haste | Antiarc: haha |
| 08:54.44 | jnwhiteh | yep, i'll be there too |
| 08:54.49 | Antiarc | Excellent |
| 08:54.58 | jnwhiteh | tho i'll be in and out |
| 08:55.00 | bluspacecow | "Doctor Who Tardis 4-Way USB Hub" |
| 08:55.06 | Antiarc | Yeah, I expect I'm going to be all over that weekend |
| 08:55.10 | bluspacecow | this product is not avaliable |
| 08:55.11 | haste | Antiarc: because.. uhm.. we can be... uhm.. rich.. cotton... and... machine... make.. uhm.. for us... and put them in the stores \:D/ |
| 08:55.11 | jnwhiteh | sioraiocht's family is in so-cal so we need to spend time with him as well |
| 08:55.12 | bluspacecow | ;( |
| 08:55.19 | jnwhiteh | I'm from the east coast |
| 08:55.21 | jnwhiteh | i believe in slaves |
| 08:55.23 | jnwhiteh | and made in china. |
| 08:55.26 | Antiarc | haste: I think we should make a perfect pesticide for the crops that is good for people and healthy and keeps the crops preserved too because we need the food because it's food and stuff and organic food is good also. |
| 08:55.44 | bluspacecow | food is goot |
| 08:55.57 | haste | :D |
| 08:56.00 | Antiarc | just growing food is so good for the people because it's free. alls you have to do is pay for the farmers and pay for the land, so why do you have to pay for it? the good is free so we should just sell it at the farmer's market |
| 08:56.21 | sioraiocht | the title of this should just be "democracy fail" |
| 08:56.38 | Antiarc | The most depressing thing about democracy is that by definition, half of voters are below average intelligence |
| 08:56.44 | haste | hahaa |
| 08:56.45 | Fisker | slaps Antiarc around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:56.48 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 08:56.51 | haste | she actually said |
| 08:56.57 | haste | that fruit and vegtables came from trees :D |
| 08:57.12 | Elkano | Antiarc, this video is so... OMG ^^ |
| 08:57.15 | haste | and if you freeze it will last for ever |
| 08:57.16 | Antiarc | Isn't it? |
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| 08:57.46 | Fisker | du er dum haste :( |
| 08:58.13 | jnwhiteh | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH |
| 08:58.18 | jnwhiteh | look at my twitter |
| 08:58.26 | haste | you have a twitter? |
| 08:58.26 | jnwhiteh | 'Chinese news' just followed me. |
| 08:58.30 | jnwhiteh | of course I do! |
| 08:58.31 | Arrowmaster | im not sure whats worse, the ufo guy or the ditz |
| 08:58.37 | jnwhiteh | its how i update my facebook |
| 08:58.39 | jnwhiteh | the ditz |
| 08:58.40 | jnwhiteh | she's the best |
| 08:58.48 | Antiarc | UFO guy is pretty good |
| 08:58.56 | jnwhiteh | 'So just grow food for the people, because it's free. You only have to pay the farmers... and pay for the land.' |
| 08:58.56 | Antiarc | But the free organic food chick is the best |
| 08:59.02 | Fisker | twitter is lame jnwhiteh |
| 08:59.02 | sioraiocht | Antiarc: correction, half of the *eligible* voters are. More than half of the participating ones are |
| 08:59.05 | krka | i for one support the perfect pesticide |
| 08:59.11 | Antiarc | sioraiocht: Bah, semantics! |
| 08:59.26 | Antiarc | Maybe her problem was licking too many DDT-coated veggies |
| 08:59.28 | jnwhiteh | ohai $2.00 Norwegian donation. |
| 08:59.35 | sioraiocht | lol |
| 08:59.37 | Kalroth | jnwhiteh: richy rich |
| 08:59.39 | jnwhiteh | DDT is yummy |
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| 08:59.42 | sioraiocht | see jnwhiteh, we should move to norway |
| 08:59.43 | jnwhiteh | There was one guy |
| 08:59.46 | jnwhiteh | from a random fucking island in London |
| 08:59.49 | jnwhiteh | an island |
| 08:59.50 | jnwhiteh | in london |
| 08:59.57 | jnwhiteh | that donated $100 |
| 09:00.00 | Elkano | donations via paypal are fun... have someone donate you $1 and see what ends up on your account :/ |
| 09:00.02 | jnwhiteh | i've gotten a number of donations that large |
| 09:00.04 | Adys | I need someone decent with svn |
| 09:00.10 | jnwhiteh | Elkano: I don't lose much from those at all |
| 09:00.12 | Adys | who can explain me how to maintain a patchset with it |
| 09:00.12 | jnwhiteh | Adys: sup |
| 09:00.18 | Kalroth | urhg |
| 09:00.22 | Adys | create and maintain that is |
| 09:00.25 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjX1IaU1A0w&feature=channel |
| 09:00.26 | Kalroth | patches in SVN is QQ |
| 09:00.28 | Antiarc | YES THERE IS MORE |
| 09:00.54 | Recluse | Alright, I think simply calling a GTT:SetUnit("mouseover") inside a UNIT_TARGET event does the trick for me, all seems well, though there is a slight delay before the tip is actually updated (not a huge biggie) |
| 09:01.26 | Recluse | I do a check that the mouse is actually over a unit before adding the text of course. |
| 09:01.35 | haste | jnwhiteh: I get $1 USD donations! |
| 09:01.37 | jnwhiteh | i hate twitter bots |
| 09:01.37 | Arrowmaster | Elkano: if they transfer it to their account first then transfer it to yours it should be the full ammount, but its the instant creditcard ones they fuck you with |
| 09:01.44 | jnwhiteh | jnwhiteh is from the east coast.. thus I believe in slavery and 'made in China' (http://bit.ly/74sZX) |
| 09:01.48 | Arrowmaster | i hate twitter |
| 09:01.56 | jnwhiteh | and then China followed me. |
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| 09:02.07 | jnwhiteh | haste: me too |
| 09:02.12 | jnwhiteh | and paypal doesn't take that much from it. |
| 09:02.24 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: this is amazing. |
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| 09:02.43 | Antiarc | This is my new favorite thing on the internet. |
| 09:02.45 | jnwhiteh | 'You're going to have me arrested if I don't continue.. no? Oh, then I'll continue' |
| 09:02.46 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 09:02.48 | krka | lol "you're time is up" |
| 09:02.48 | jnwhiteh | i love it |
| 09:03.05 | jnwhiteh | HAHAHAHA |
| 09:03.12 | jnwhiteh | yay for Obama hate |
| 09:03.23 | jnwhiteh | sioraiocht: we are NOT under any circumstances moving to Santa Cruz. |
| 09:03.27 | jnwhiteh | you'll have my support on that. |
| 09:03.32 | sioraiocht | jnwhiteh: umm, I said norway |
| 09:03.38 | jnwhiteh | I know |
| 09:03.39 | jnwhiteh | just saying |
| 09:03.47 | jnwhiteh | I like to rule out places as we decide |
| 09:03.49 | jnwhiteh | and that's one of mine =) |
| 09:04.01 | Antiarc | The surfer guy is amazing |
| 09:04.16 | jnwhiteh | grievances against the king. |
| 09:04.19 | sioraiocht | jnwhiteh: okay, let's start compiling a list |
| 09:04.24 | jnwhiteh | haha |
| 09:04.27 | jnwhiteh | the surfer is awesome |
| 09:04.33 | sioraiocht | haste: back me up though on norway, eh =p |
| 09:04.35 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jS33Qhdh8k&feature=channel |
| 09:04.37 | jnwhiteh | BRIAN YOU LOOK GOOD LIKE A CAPTAIN, SO SALUTE US! |
| 09:04.38 | Antiarc | HOORAY MORE |
| 09:04.54 | haste | jnwhiteh: Norway - It's not Santa Cruz ! |
| 09:04.55 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: slow down, i'm like 56 seconds behind you!\ |
| 09:05.21 | jnwhiteh | yay for crappy street musicians |
| 09:05.29 | jnwhiteh | HAHAHAHAH |
| 09:05.32 | jnwhiteh | the homeless guy |
| 09:05.33 | jnwhiteh | amazing |
| 09:05.37 | jnwhiteh | 'tell the police to give me a job' |
| 09:05.54 | Antiarc | "Sometimes there's not a whole lot to do except sit around on the weekends, when there isn't time to look for a job" |
| 09:05.54 | jnwhiteh | HAHAH |
| 09:06.01 | jnwhiteh | i shoudl not be doing this in public |
| 09:06.09 | haste | {D |
| 09:06.10 | jnwhiteh | i'm laughing my ass off. |
| 09:06.17 | Antiarc | I am lollin' pretty damn hard |
| 09:06.27 | jnwhiteh | 'santa cruz is neat' |
| 09:06.33 | Antiarc | YESSSSSS |
| 09:06.33 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=70E4CB64672706F0 |
| 09:06.34 | Antiarc | Enjoy |
| 09:06.36 | jnwhiteh | the james brown sounding guy is awesome |
| 09:06.43 | jnwhiteh | I HAVE NEVER URINATED IN PUBLIC |
| 09:06.53 | Antiarc | Hahahahah |
| 09:06.57 | haste | jnwhiteh, sioraiocht: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebqdwQzmSHM ! |
| 09:07.08 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: thsi one is fuckign hilarious |
| 09:07.11 | jnwhiteh | the one before the playlist |
| 09:07.11 | Antiarc | Yes it is |
| 09:07.15 | jnwhiteh | its a fucking remiox. |
| 09:07.17 | sioraiocht | hahahaha |
| 09:07.19 | jnwhiteh | of city council |
| 09:07.28 | sioraiocht | haste: I approve |
| 09:07.28 | Antiarc | I can't breathe |
| 09:07.30 | Antiarc | I'm laughing |
| 09:07.30 | Antiarc | too hard |
| 09:07.32 | jnwhiteh | SEX TOYS, DYKE, CRAIGSLIST, EVERYBODY BEAT |
| 09:07.49 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-cIjhwgxp0&feature=PlayList&p=70E4CB64672706F0&index=2 |
| 09:07.51 | Antiarc | NUMBER THREE |
| 09:08.00 | jnwhiteh | 'many peopel think that norway is the capital of sweden' |
| 09:08.00 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:08.15 | Fisker | you're the capital of sweden |
| 09:08.17 | sioraiocht | I feel like ths guy is emphasizing his accent |
| 09:08.34 | haste | he probably is :P |
| 09:08.49 | Cairenn | GOOD LIKE A CAPTAIN! |
| 09:09.29 | jnwhiteh | the sex toys one wins. |
| 09:09.31 | jnwhiteh | no doubt in my mind. |
| 09:09.43 | bluspacecow | its not ? |
| 09:09.45 | sioraiocht | "we learn special letters" |
| 09:10.04 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEbAVLYnrfQ&feature=PlayList&p=70E4CB64672706F0&index=11 |
| 09:11.46 | sioraiocht | hahah, haste, that was hilarious |
| 09:11.56 | haste | :D |
| 09:12.15 | jnwhiteh | SO MUCH URINATING IN PUBLIC |
| 09:12.39 | Antiarc | I'm pretty sure I could never sit on a city council |
| 09:12.47 | Antiarc | I'd end up bringing a bat in and beating people like that |
| 09:13.48 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 09:13.48 | sioraiocht | haste: so what phase of life are you in? |
| 09:13.58 | jnwhiteh | the one that sioraiocht's dad had to deal with |
| 09:13.58 | sioraiocht | the dragging children on skis? |
| 09:14.00 | jnwhiteh | was so fucking stupid |
| 09:14.13 | haste | no, the move to bigger cities and get a job one |
| 09:14.17 | sioraiocht | Yeah, it was a 60,000 USD clusterfuck =p |
| 09:14.21 | sioraiocht | haste: ah, heh |
| 09:14.36 | Arrowmaster | you know i hope that someday i have a job where i can keep a whiffle bat behind a desk just to scare people into making sure they never do anything stupid |
| 09:14.38 | sioraiocht | or 60.000 for you SI people |
| 09:15.16 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: I swore back in BC that if I ever visit the Blizzard offices, I'm going to take a lawn rake with me |
| 09:15.27 | Antiarc | and I will run through their offices, spinning wildly and yelling "ARCANE TORRENT" |
| 09:15.44 | Antiarc | I'm still a bitter rogue. |
| 09:16.00 | bluspacecow | "whiffle bat" |
| 09:16.03 | bluspacecow | wot dat ? |
| 09:16.10 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:16.19 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: hahahahaha |
| 09:16.20 | Arrowmaster | plastic bat with a bunch of holes in it |
| 09:16.23 | bluspacecow | hmm maybe purl knows |
| 09:16.28 | Antiarc | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=whiffle+bat |
| 09:16.32 | bluspacecow | ~wiki whiffle bat |
| 09:16.35 | Arrowmaster | it wont do any damage but it will fucking hurt like hell |
| 09:17.13 | bluspacecow | ahh |
| 09:17.18 | bluspacecow | a bruising weapon |
| 09:17.19 | Cairenn | Antiarc: I'm sure BC is close enough? |
| 09:17.23 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:17.37 | Cairenn | purrs |
| 09:19.01 | bluspacecow | what time is it ? |
| 09:19.12 | Cairenn | any time |
| 09:19.34 | Cairenn | since you weren't specific to any one location |
| 09:20.06 | bluspacecow | i mean where you are |
| 09:20.12 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn doesnt sleep |
| 09:20.16 | Cairenn | oh-dark-hundred |
| 09:20.28 | bluspacecow | ah |
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| 09:20.41 | bluspacecow | somewhere between midnight and 8 am |
| 09:20.41 | Cairenn | or alternately, omg-early |
| 09:20.52 | Arrowmaster | or 5:20am |
| 09:21.01 | Cairenn | 05:20, to be precise |
| 09:21.06 | Cairenn | heh, what Arrowmaster said :) |
| 09:21.19 | Arrowmaster | 05:21:01a @(Cairenn) 05:20, to be precise |
| 09:21.22 | Arrowmaster | wrong! |
| 09:21.35 | bluspacecow | oh so whats 4.30 then ? omg-why-the-fuck am i awake oclock ? |
| 09:21.37 | Cairenn | yeah yeah, it was when I started to type it :p |
| 09:21.52 | jnwhiteh | santa cruicification |
| 09:22.01 | Arrowmaster | 4:30 is 'wheres lunch' |
| 09:22.03 | bluspacecow | ah |
| 09:22.05 | bluspacecow | http://www.purepwnage.com/ |
| 09:22.11 | bluspacecow | watched 3 episdoes and hated it |
| 09:22.37 | jnwhiteh | bluspacecow: there's only one good episode |
| 09:22.45 | Recluse | I enjoyed the first season of it, but then I felt the story went way off topic |
| 09:22.47 | bluspacecow | the first one ? |
| 09:23.09 | bluspacecow | ??? |
| 09:23.10 | jnwhiteh | the world of warcraft one =) |
| 09:23.11 | Cairenn | bluspacecow: any time between 0301 and 0800 is why-the-fuck-am-I-still-awake-hundred |
| 09:23.26 | bluspacecow | "how to install the bash shell on 10.1" |
| 09:23.36 | bluspacecow | why oh why did i bookmark that ? |
| 09:23.58 | jnwhiteh | http://www.purepwnage.com/episodes/s1/6/ |
| 09:24.22 | jnwhiteh | if you didn't get to that episode |
| 09:24.24 | jnwhiteh | watch it |
| 09:24.27 | jnwhiteh | the song is amazing :P |
| 09:24.36 | jnwhiteh | sioraiocht: so i'm gonna go home and work on the chapter |
| 09:24.39 | jnwhiteh | i guess |
| 09:24.42 | bluspacecow | do i need to watch the ones before that ? |
| 09:24.46 | sioraiocht | jnwhiteh: because you hate me? |
| 09:24.52 | jnwhiteh | bluspacecow: no |
| 09:24.55 | jnwhiteh | sioraiocht: .. no? |
| 09:24.59 | bluspacecow | oh good |
| 09:25.13 | jnwhiteh | skip to 1:30 |
| 09:25.15 | jnwhiteh | the intro is stupid. |
| 09:25.37 | jnwhiteh | but yeah |
| 09:25.42 | jnwhiteh | i never got into any other episodes |
| 09:26.20 | bluspacecow | http://www.linuxbeacon.com/doku.php?id=opensourcemac |
| 09:26.24 | bluspacecow | ::roll:: |
| 09:26.32 | bluspacecow | yet another why did i bookmark that ? |
| 09:26.46 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 09:27.13 | bluspacecow | must of been back in the day when i had the notion "open source is the best cause it means its small . fast and efficient" |
| 09:27.45 | jnwhiteh | yeah not so much |
| 09:27.56 | bluspacecow | like seerah would say |
| 09:28.03 | krka | mmm... linux bacon |
| 09:28.08 | bluspacecow | shitty programmers write shitty code , good programmers etc etc |
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| 09:32.34 | bluspacecow | omg just finished doing a huge folder of 150 bookmarks some saved from 5 years ago .... |
| 09:32.44 | bluspacecow | cleaning out that is |
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| 10:12.54 | Cruciformer | 'lo all |
| 10:15.04 | Cruciformer | Is there an easy and reliable way to detect when a boss fight ends? Some bosses (like th guardians in ulduar) dont actually die but become friendly. Do I have to actually look for emote strings? |
| 10:19.09 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 10:20.48 | Cruciformer | yes thre is an easy way or yes I have to look at emote strings? |
| 10:25.23 | Gnarfoz | the latter, sadly |
| 10:26.55 | *** part/#wowuidev daev` (n=bleh@pool-72-86-106-233.aubnin.fios.verizon.net) |
| 10:27.05 | Cruciformer | what a pity. |
| 10:28.42 | Gnarfoz | not too bad, the work's been done, you can lift the strings from other addons ;p |
| 10:29.33 | Cruciformer | Oddly enough, I find strings with the name "YellKill" in DBM, but nowhere outside of the localisation.en.lua file for example that uses the variable YellKill |
| 10:31.25 | Cruciformer | ah nvm I found it |
| 10:33.48 | Wobin | Cairenn|afk: http://fuckyeahanimalswithcasts.tumblr.com/ |
| 10:33.58 | Gnarfoz | my reply to that would be something along the lines of "dbm, urgh" |
| 10:34.03 | Wobin | The hedgehog at the bottom! zomg |
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| 10:51.15 | Wobin | http://fuckyeahbabyanimals.com/ |
| 10:51.21 | Wobin | oh god, so addictive |
| 10:54.08 | Wobin | http://13.media.tumblr.com/x3Rmp1Hjops8co1mOfMSnTkBo1_500.jpg |
| 10:54.10 | Wobin | eeeeeee |
| 10:55.45 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:56.50 | Wobin | offers Fisker pictures of baby red pandas instead: http://23.media.tumblr.com/x3Rmp1Hjopmdxkz60qaBOJi7o1_500.jpg |
| 10:59.08 | Industrial | next, next, next |
| 10:59.19 | Wobin | http://22.media.tumblr.com/x3Rmp1HjopauyjyyCC0LuSgMo1_500.jpg |
| 11:00.41 | jnwhiteh | we just had the most imba hon match |
| 11:00.50 | jnwhiteh | they all had assassins, basically |
| 11:00.51 | Fisker | i love you Wobin |
| 11:00.52 | Wobin | imba on your side? |
| 11:00.58 | jnwhiteh | and we had people who weren't good |
| 11:01.02 | jnwhiteh | who spoke chinese on vent the whole time |
| 11:01.02 | jnwhiteh | >< |
| 11:01.10 | Fisker | can i come ruin your game jnwhiteh ? |
| 11:01.16 | jnwhiteh | not playing now. |
| 11:01.20 | jnwhiteh | just took a 30 min break |
| 11:01.52 | Wobin | here's a bunny to cheer you up, jnwhiteh http://3.media.tumblr.com/x3Rmp1Hjop0zrnpkDlsYM2ajo1_500.jpg |
| 11:02.01 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 11:03.41 | Fisker | ok |
| 11:03.43 | Fisker | i hate this site |
| 11:04.04 | Fisker | So they have this article about getting a new digital camera |
| 11:04.08 | Fisker | and they show the iphone 3gs |
| 11:04.12 | Fisker | then i raged |
| 11:04.16 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 11:04.26 | Wobin | rofl |
| 11:05.46 | Fisker | and nvidia even put out new drivers |
| 11:05.54 | Fisker | i haven't even rebooted since i installed the old ones |
| 11:06.43 | Wobin | I should download the dets |
| 11:06.52 | Wobin | I've been bluescreening recently, and maybe it's to do with that |
| 11:07.16 | Fisker | usually it pays off to read the bluescreen |
| 11:07.52 | Wobin | I need to set it not to reboot automatically |
| 11:07.59 | Wobin | cause I keep missing it |
| 11:08.17 | Fisker | that's not what that does |
| 11:09.47 | Adys | Are realm/bg ids in GUIDs? |
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| 11:10.14 | Wobin | Fisker: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/c525768b8c2bb922df5b1265bb80b98c.png ? |
| 11:10.15 | Fisker | hmm |
| 11:10.34 | Fisker | Automatically restart attempts to reboot the machine before the bsod |
| 11:10.57 | Wobin | hm, something is auto restarting it after the bsod for me |
| 11:11.00 | Fisker | It always reboots on a bsod when the memory dump is done |
| 11:11.16 | Fisker | So you need to make a memory dump that takes more than few microseconds to complete |
| 11:11.18 | Wobin | oh, so the 'small' dump is meaning there's not much time? |
| 11:11.27 | Wobin | good enough |
| 11:11.42 | Wobin | sets it to kernel dump |
| 11:12.10 | ZorbaBeta | fisker, you sure about that? I've made it stop autorebooting by turning that box off before :P |
| 11:12.28 | Fisker | Well atleast that's how it was in windows xp for me |
| 11:12.30 | ZorbaBeta | and what good would trying to reboot *before* the BSOD do? |
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| 11:13.10 | Fisker | prevent permanent damage |
| 11:13.47 | ZorbaBeta | by the time it would realize it was about to BSOD, the damage would already be done. |
| 11:13.49 | Wobin | hm |
| 11:13.53 | Wobin | I have 182.50 |
| 11:14.01 | Wobin | latest version is 190.38 =P |
| 11:14.14 | Fisker | ZorbaBeta depends entirely on the issue |
| 11:14.24 | ZorbaBeta | wobin, http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=35246 <-- check this out, it makes it real, real easy to get a good sense of where your BSODs are coming from |
| 11:14.31 | Fisker | But i know for a fact that it'll reboot without bsod'ing if it's turned on |
| 11:14.54 | Fisker | Sometimes it may not, but other time it'll reboot for apparently no reason |
| 11:15.01 | ZorbaBeta | well, I know for a fact it won't, because it's turned on for me and I still get BSODs (for a split second as it writes data) |
| 11:15.18 | ZorbaBeta | if it's rebooting for no reason, it's *really* fucked, but that's unrelated to that checkbox. |
| 11:15.49 | Fisker | No it's not |
| 11:16.23 | Fisker | Was actually a pretty big known issue back in the day |
| 11:16.39 | ZorbaBeta | *shrug* maybe it's fixed in winxp64 |
| 11:17.49 | Gnarfoz | winxp64 is a POS |
| 11:18.32 | ZorbaBeta | gnarfoz, besides one or two flaky drivers, I've actually had great success with it |
| 11:19.26 | Gnarfoz | it's a retrofitted server 2003 sp1 codebase and never had proper support, I guess you were lucky :) |
| 11:19.32 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 11:19.40 | Fisker | worked fine but no support |
| 11:20.15 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, it's never had much support, but I don't know anyone who's actually run into major issues with it |
| 11:20.45 | Gnarfoz | wtb win7 rtm ;o |
| 11:21.25 | ZorbaBeta | unfortunately win7 has a few major showstopper UI issues for me :/ I'm hoping someone comes up with fixes, but until they do, I'm sticking with xp |
| 11:21.51 | Gnarfoz | I really, really wonder why they decided to just leave UAC broken |
| 11:22.18 | Gnarfoz | I don't want to stay on xp forever, even though it Just Works(tm) |
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| 11:24.11 | Wobin | this |
| 11:24.13 | Wobin | ^ |
| 11:24.30 | Wobin | I wouldn't mind upgrading to Win7 |
| 11:24.33 | Wobin | but not soon |
| 11:24.46 | Wobin | I might wait til the first service pack at least |
| 11:24.48 | Fisker | how is uac broken? |
| 11:25.04 | Wobin | brb rebootin |
| 11:25.12 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: oh exploitable |
| 11:25.26 | Gnarfoz | with working exploits already out there :< |
| 11:26.08 | Wobin | "Are you sure you wish to be exploited: Y/Y?" |
| 11:26.37 | Gnarfoz | setting it to it's highest setting (the one which makes it behave identically to Vista) works against that, afaik, but that kind of sucks, still |
| 11:27.07 | Gnarfoz | ZorbaBeta: interesting link on those debug tools |
| 11:27.32 | ZorbaBeta | gnarfoz, I strongly recommend them, once you have it set up it's literally a thirty-second process to figure out what the issue is |
| 11:27.58 | ZorbaBeta | I honestly don't know why it's not just part of Windows by default |
| 11:30.50 | Gnarfoz | Probably caused by : Ntfs.sys ( Ntfs!NtfsGetNextFcbTableEntry+17 ) |
| 11:30.50 | Gnarfoz | Followup: MachineOwner |
| 11:30.59 | Gnarfoz | well, I thought as much before :\ |
| 11:31.26 | ZorbaBeta | if your NTFS driver is causing bluescreens, make a fucking backup of everything important right now :P |
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| 11:32.33 | Gnarfoz | it's the hdd |
| 11:32.36 | Gnarfoz | or, one of them |
| 11:32.58 | Gnarfoz | or, also possible, the chipset/chipset driver |
| 11:34.04 | Gnarfoz | when I use standby mode, half the time afterwards WoW will not work properly (I'll get SFileDecompression errors or whatever, it'll crash because it can't read stuff from its MPQs) |
| 11:34.29 | Gnarfoz | rebooting fixes it reliably, leading me to assume there's some kind of problem with standby mode + sata controller/driver |
| 11:35.03 | Gnarfoz | the BSODs however, are not happening at the same time at all, they're just random :D |
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| 11:35.33 | Fisker | Gnarfoz you're smoking hot |
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| 11:35.57 | Gnarfoz | (however, when I reboot after BSOD has happened, I can clearly hear at least one of my HDDs spinning up, and they don't have idle timeouts set... so something is going on) |
| 11:36.04 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: that's what she said |
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| 11:50.17 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/266724_love_the_originality,_hate_the_message.jpg.jpg |
| 11:51.25 | Gnarfoz | don't take pictures of freshly done tattoos... wait until the skin has calmed down :\ |
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| 12:40.26 | Gnarfoz | great fun |
| 12:40.32 | Gnarfoz | BugCheck 1000000A, {ffbff9a0, ff, 0, 806e7bb0} Probably caused by : hardware ( nt!KiIdleLoop+23 ) |
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| 12:41.48 | amro | Antiarc: pping |
| 12:42.03 | Kraps | sam raimi eh? |
| 12:43.10 | Gnarfoz | eh. |
| 12:43.36 | Kraps | imdb has it as a 2011 release |
| 12:44.20 | Kraps | Class Q&A Series: Warrior (Part 2) |
| 12:44.25 | Kraps | orly |
| 12:45.13 | Adys | The reporter has made the following comment: |
| 12:45.14 | Adys | Trolling, probably. (Not too sure, might just be a retard...) |
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| 12:46.06 | Adys | "i only use deadly posionns....if their dead b4 they can cast then u dont have 2 worry bout their castingg time =-D |
| 12:46.06 | Adys | " |
| 12:47.46 | Kraps | Adys: wut |
| 12:47.59 | Adys | a post report on mmoc |
| 12:49.12 | Kraps | Takes 7 players 20 seconds to kill you... 7 players... I don't think we'll be implementing that. - Cyrgil |
| 12:49.58 | Adys | ? |
| 12:50.03 | Kraps | @ a guy saying warhammer warriors are better |
| 12:50.10 | Adys | link |
| 12:50.31 | Adys | also i saw druids handling that kind of damage |
| 12:50.34 | Kalroth | Adys' banhammer incoming! |
| 12:50.48 | Adys | adys' deletehammer already has striken |
| 12:50.53 | Kalroth | o |
| 12:50.55 | Adys | (struck? stroke?) |
| 12:51.01 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/10/18358914172-class-qa-series-warrior.html second to last post |
| 12:51.02 | Adys | (blowjob? kalroth, please?) |
| 12:51.08 | Kalroth | stricken* |
| 12:51.19 | Adys | eh |
| 12:51.24 | Adys | are you suck about that |
| 12:51.26 | Adys | wtf |
| 12:51.27 | Adys | sure |
| 12:51.28 | Gnarfoz | has struck |
| 12:51.29 | Gnarfoz | :o |
| 12:51.57 | WobNet | ugh |
| 12:52.08 | WobNet | Why do I even bother reading posts about Wowmatrix? |
| 12:52.12 | Gnarfoz | I dunno. |
| 12:52.14 | Gnarfoz | masochism? |
| 12:52.54 | Kalroth | u has mudkipz |
| 12:52.59 | Kraps | holy shi- http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10106892959&pageNo=1&sid=1#1 |
| 12:53.10 | Kalroth | :D |
| 12:54.16 | WobNet | why'd they lock the thread? |
| 12:54.25 | Kalroth | wrong forum |
| 12:54.43 | WobNet | ... it's General =P |
| 12:54.50 | Adys | offtopic is here for that |
| 12:54.55 | WobNet | oh |
| 12:56.39 | Kraps | it seems impossible but the OT forums suck even more than the others |
| 12:56.51 | A-KO | wow holy shit, Sam Raimi signed on to do the WoW movie |
| 12:57.42 | mikma | adys: fixed... how? :I like this? Ghis:her; |
| 12:59.16 | mikma | now the whole server died |
| 12:59.33 | mikma | working as intended |
| 13:05.42 | Adys | wat mikma ? |
| 13:05.45 | Adys | link? |
| 13:05.51 | Adys | oh the spells |
| 13:05.56 | Adys | yeah it requires a full push first |
| 13:06.04 | mikma | yeah, push it. |
| 13:06.05 | Adys | since its minor it'll wait for the next build |
| 13:06.15 | Adys | pushing consumes lots of resources |
| 13:06.26 | Adys | i minimize sql writes |
| 13:07.59 | Adys | you know whats funny? |
| 13:08.00 | Adys | https://bug392351.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=284543 |
| 13:08.04 | Adys | this is REALLY funny |
| 13:08.09 | Adys | its hilarious |
| 13:08.22 | Adys | it was one of the "amazing features" of firefox 3.0 |
| 13:08.29 | Adys | chrome released it a year later, firefox still hasnt |
| 13:09.52 | ZorbaBeta | man I wish there was some way to find out which plugins were eating firefox RAM |
| 13:10.06 | mikma | adys: you part of chromium dev team or something? :D |
| 13:10.21 | Lopeppeppy | ZorbaBeta... um, binary search? |
| 13:10.42 | ZorbaBeta | lope, with a week-long delay between each search to see if the gradual slow leak shows up? |
| 13:11.02 | Lopeppeppy | If it's important to you, yes, you could do that. |
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| 13:11.19 | Lopeppeppy | If not, try restarting your browser in less than a week instead. |
| 13:11.23 | ZorbaBeta | it is, but it is not that important. I wish there were an easier method. |
| 13:11.26 | Adys | mikma: ff is fucking horrible |
| 13:11.38 | ZorbaBeta | restarting my browser takes about twenty minutes for it to finish reloading tabs. I prefer to avoid it whenever possible :P |
| 13:11.43 | Adys | its got all the Fs |
| 13:12.00 | Adys | it even starts with the same letter as Flash |
| 13:12.02 | Lopeppeppy | 20 minutes for tabs, a week for the leak to develop... I'd say 20 minutes on your lunch break is a good investment. |
| 13:12.08 | Industrial | ROFL |
| 13:12.12 | Gnarfoz | mikma: afaik, yes, somehow involved at least ;p |
| 13:12.20 | Industrial | so I roll a new gnome mage with pink hair and a pink moustache named Finkles |
| 13:12.23 | ZorbaBeta | I don't have a lunch break ;) |
| 13:12.25 | Adys | a week for the leak to develop Lopeppeppy ? |
| 13:12.31 | Lopeppeppy | he said it, not me. |
| 13:12.33 | Adys | are you using firefox 0.8? :P |
| 13:12.38 | mikma | gnarfoz: must be, he's too damn fanboi to miss dev-stuff |
| 13:12.38 | Adys | oh |
| 13:12.40 | ZorbaBeta | and what I'd prefer is a button I could push that says "here is where your RAM is being used" |
| 13:12.52 | Industrial | I see this pally level 1 female dwarf walk around named healwarrior |
| 13:12.56 | Industrial | *facedesk* |
| 13:13.06 | Adys | here firefox starts leaking as soon as i start it |
| 13:13.09 | Gnarfoz | Industrial: accurate description, though |
| 13:13.11 | Adys | by the way |
| 13:13.17 | Adys | FLASH ON CHROME LINUX <333333333333 |
| 13:13.39 | Adys | funny thing is |
| 13:13.43 | Gnarfoz | took them long enough, lol |
| 13:13.47 | Industrial | thats almost as bad as warriordude the level 5 naked female dwarf rogue begging for money and calling people names in goldshire on a RP server, but not quite. |
| 13:13.55 | Industrial | (this happened to me once, no pics :p) |
| 13:13.59 | Adys | I've crashed chrome twice in the months since they released the first alphas |
| 13:14.07 | Adys | and since they released flash on chrome linux |
| 13:14.11 | Adys | I crashed ~ 10 times |
| 13:14.17 | Adys | and I didnt even INSTALL flash. |
| 13:14.28 | Industrial | lol |
| 13:14.30 | mikma | mm, 3.0.193.1 :) |
| 13:14.35 | Gnarfoz | sounds like they did a shit job of it |
| 13:14.40 | Adys | theyre on 194 mikma |
| 13:14.47 | Adys | no Gnarfoz |
| 13:14.48 | mikma | uh oh! |
| 13:14.51 | Gnarfoz | (and why don't you just use gnash or something) |
| 13:14.58 | Adys | because its a worse piece of shit? |
| 13:15.03 | Adys | and not compatible with chrome at that |
| 13:15.11 | Gnarfoz | that'd be chrome's problem |
| 13:15.15 | Adys | no |
| 13:15.18 | Gnarfoz | yes... |
| 13:15.19 | Adys | gnash is a piece of shit |
| 13:15.22 | Adys | end of story |
| 13:15.26 | mikma | but.. |
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| 13:15.28 | Adys | no |
| 13:15.29 | Gnarfoz | too bad, you say that about Flash, too |
| 13:15.43 | Adys | flash is a POS for other reasons |
| 13:15.50 | Adys | gnash is a POS implementation of a POS design |
| 13:16.10 | Gnarfoz | curiously, everyone wants it, yet nobody cares enough to make a non-POS-clone of it that will, because of it's AWESOMENESS eradicate Flash |
| 13:16.25 | Gnarfoz | too bad idealism doesn't work in open source :D |
| 13:16.28 | Adys | no |
| 13:16.31 | Adys | no one wants gnash |
| 13:16.34 | Adys | I dont know what you're smoking |
| 13:16.36 | Gnarfoz | Flash, I meant. |
| 13:16.43 | Gnarfoz | or: something that does, what flash does |
| 13:16.45 | Adys | ok |
| 13:16.51 | Gnarfoz | mostly the latter |
| 13:16.53 | Adys | you think its easy to write a non-pos-clone of flash |
| 13:16.54 | Adys | ok. :P |
| 13:17.28 | Gnarfoz | I didn't say that, however I'm tired (as usual) of people whining on and on about something being total crap just because |
| 13:17.33 | Adys | here's what you're dealing with when writing a flash client |
| 13:17.51 | Adys | Reverse engineering 100% undocumented proprietary patented technology |
| 13:18.18 | Adys | Implementing it on the horrible abstract that nspw is |
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| 13:18.40 | Gnarfoz | so you're saying it's the same problem as with SMTP? :P |
| 13:18.47 | Adys | no |
| 13:18.55 | Gnarfoz | should be nuked from orbit, but you really can't? :D |
| 13:18.56 | Adys | its the same problem as wine |
| 13:19.16 | Adys | except flash on linux already exists so on top of that you wont get any help from other developers |
| 13:19.23 | Adys | gnash is unreal |
| 13:19.35 | Adys | wine is a necessity |
| 13:19.55 | Adys | even if every linux flash client disappeared tomorrow, people would just run them under wine |
| 13:20.17 | Adys | Im not complaining "just because"; flash really is a horrible technology |
| 13:20.20 | Adys | amro: help me out there |
| 13:20.47 | Gnarfoz | is Silverlight any better, btw? I'm curious |
| 13:20.56 | Gnarfoz | i.e. documented at least? |
| 13:21.01 | Gnarfoz | or... something! |
| 13:21.10 | Adys | Moonlight is way further on than gnash |
| 13:21.16 | Gnarfoz | whut |
| 13:21.17 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 13:21.18 | Adys | and its prolly documented somewhat |
| 13:21.23 | Adys | but uh |
| 13:21.29 | Adys | silverlight is unused |
| 13:21.46 | Gnarfoz | nah, it's used rarely, but not totally unused |
| 13:21.49 | Adys | the time for silverlight to be able to take over, html5 will have replaced the needs half of it |
| 13:21.58 | Adys | (and thats a good thing) |
| 13:22.17 | Gnarfoz | except that they won't do the "force at least this codec on everyone" thing |
| 13:22.23 | Gnarfoz | which will make it die in its tracks, imho :\ |
| 13:22.29 | WobNet | one can hope |
| 13:22.35 | Adys | i said html5, not <video> |
| 13:22.47 | Adys | there isnt only video tag in there |
| 13:23.00 | Gnarfoz | well, newsflash, that is what Flash is used for 75% of the time or so :D |
| 13:23.04 | Gnarfoz | I'm aware ;o |
| 13:23.17 | Adys | besides I dont care, this is a giant opportunity for chrome |
| 13:23.31 | Adys | I bet google is happy about video tag codec spec being dropped |
| 13:23.40 | Adys | they are the only ones able to support both fully :) |
| 13:23.44 | mikma | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/483/learning :D |
| 13:23.57 | Adys | yeha mikma |
| 13:24.11 | Adys | I should prolly put a limit up |
| 13:24.23 | mikma | adys: gotta love that "previous" and "next" feature |
| 13:24.48 | Adys | i dont really want tables in there ... |
| 13:24.57 | Adys | maybe what ill do is limit it to 50 results |
| 13:24.57 | mikma | adys: limiting would be wise, but it's cool like that |
| 13:25.03 | Adys | and if theres more, linking a filter |
| 13:25.47 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/items/?spells__id=483 |
| 13:25.51 | Adys | this is the same table |
| 13:26.18 | Gnarfoz | I should start linking some really old spells in Trade chat and claim they're new features in 3.2 |
| 13:26.40 | Adys | Gnarfoz: are you any good with GUIs? |
| 13:26.41 | mikma | gnarfoz: do it. do it. do it. |
| 13:26.50 | Adys | (in wow) |
| 13:27.06 | Gnarfoz | Adys: wow GUIs suck. :< |
| 13:27.10 | Adys | I know |
| 13:27.14 | mikma | adys: http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/483/learning is fun! ;)) |
| 13:27.16 | Adys | hence why Im asking someone else to do them for me |
| 13:27.21 | Gnarfoz | Adys: and no, I'm not, I'd have filled Bibi's request otherwise ;< |
| 13:27.30 | mikma | need to make a macro of that ingame, lol |
| 13:27.31 | Adys | which one? |
| 13:27.41 | Adys | macro of what? |
| 13:27.56 | mikma | [Learning] is fun! |
| 13:28.09 | Adys | oh. |
| 13:28.39 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/c/10541/krakles-thermometer/ |
| 13:28.42 | Adys | wtf O_o |
| 13:29.01 | WobNet | critter? |
| 13:29.06 | Adys | sure |
| 13:29.14 | mikma | hehe |
| 13:29.21 | mikma | is that for the quest in ungoro? |
| 13:29.27 | Adys | maybe, dunno |
| 13:30.12 | WobNet | yeah |
| 13:30.21 | WobNet | to test the highest temperature |
| 13:31.16 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, in Ungoro |
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| 13:32.27 | Qzot | Heyo. |
| 13:33.28 | mikma | [16:31:51] Bani thinks [Learning] is fun! |
| 13:33.31 | mikma | hehe :) |
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| 13:36.56 | alestane | ScytheBlade1: Finally got through that gorramn mission, albeit by the skin of my teeth. Might have done it a bit differently if I'd know it was an "assassination" rather than an "extermination". |
| 13:41.56 | Elkano | ever had problems with strangers calling you to tell you you won sth or to try to get you buy some useless stuff? http://howtoprankatelemarketer.ytmnd.com/ |
| 13:42.35 | mikma | cairenn|afk: i found a car for you! http://www.nettiauto.com/bmw/316/2697240 |
| 13:45.03 | alestane | MY EYES BURN! |
| 13:45.30 | mikma | burn baby burn, disco inferno |
| 13:45.34 | alestane | (This from the person who designed the buttonfacade art for the Hello Kitty UI.) |
| 13:46.16 | Lopeppeppy | has a Very Cranky. |
| 13:46.51 | alestane | soothes the Peppy, wary in case she bites. |
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| 13:48.22 | Lopeppeppy | Scheduling difficulties for the very lose, rawr. |
| 13:50.33 | alestane | Work, or outside? |
| 13:50.46 | Lopeppeppy | Personal life, I tries to have one and it fails miserably! |
| 13:51.43 | alestane | You were too busy Monday, weren't you. |
| 13:52.16 | Lopeppeppy | I got 75% unpacked, I'd say I was busy! And still did a group dinner thingie at 9pm. I kick booty. |
| 13:52.18 | Lopeppeppy | I'm tired! |
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| 13:52.48 | alestane | I certainly won't blame you for that. |
| 13:53.13 | Lopeppeppy | I'm trying to arrange a day or two at Pennsic now, that's like.... murdering nuns or something, to get info. |
| 13:53.23 | Drazisil | Hey, in the spirit of RTFM, where IS the manual? I'm looking to see how to create a message box. |
| 13:53.38 | alestane | The manual for what? |
| 13:53.57 | Drazisil | ui addon creation |
| 13:54.04 | alestane | ~wowprogramming |
| 13:54.05 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons ~ http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob ~ a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 13:54.09 | alestane | ~pil |
| 13:54.09 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 13:54.27 | Drazisil | thanks guys! |
| 13:54.58 | alestane | Oh Peppy, I tried to play a holy pally the other day! |
| 13:56.41 | Lopeppeppy | Tried? |
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| 13:57.12 | alestane | We made it through the instance, but I think that was mostly because one of the shammies backed me up. I had 90 bonus healing. |
| 13:58.00 | Adys | http://www.wowbash.com/image-3893.html |
| 13:58.07 | Lopeppeppy | What instance? |
| 13:58.09 | Adys | the odds ARE very low.. |
| 13:58.12 | alestane | Blood Furnace. |
| 13:58.39 | alestane | I was 66, which helped a bit. |
| 13:58.40 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 13:58.43 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 13:58.46 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle* |
| 13:58.56 | alestane | And DK tanks don't need so much healing. |
| 14:00.38 | ZorbaBeta | adys, a friend and me got the Greedy achievement simultaneously. Technically, it was a bug :P |
| 14:01.49 | mikma | adys: only bad thing i can think of Chrome right now is the fact it "lags" with pageloading when i have wow open |
| 14:02.10 | alestane | Talbuks sound like they have a leak. |
| 14:02.11 | ZorbaBeta | http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=558#screenshots:id=123842 hah |
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| 14:12.37 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 14:13.34 | Lopeppeppy | Heyo, Kaelten. Happy Windsday |
| 14:19.33 | Kaelten | heya Lopeppeppy :D |
| 14:19.40 | mikma | now folks, i need all the possible debuffs that players get when they use their talents.. Forbearance and Hypothermia are already in the list |
| 14:19.43 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072209_171539.jpg |
| 14:19.59 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Whafor is funny? |
| 14:20.40 | Lopeppeppy | 90 bonus healing... I think my level 40 paladin has more than that.... |
| 14:21.03 | alestane | I has a holy spec, but all my gear is tank gear. |
| 14:21.16 | alestane | I'm working on raising that now. |
| 14:21.23 | Lopeppeppy | Which no longer needs any spellpower bonus |
| 14:21.56 | alestane | So if I ever wants to heal, I needs a whole different set of gear. |
| 14:23.21 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, yes you do. |
| 14:23.38 | alestane | Fortunately, my healing spec has 20 points in prot, so I had divinity and Improved Devotion Aura to help me out. |
| 14:24.09 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072209_172312.jpg ^^ |
| 14:24.20 | Lopeppeppy | Imp Devo Aura isn't something I bother with anymore, it's so rarely useful in raids. |
| 14:24.46 | jnwhiteh | so.. |
| 14:24.48 | jnwhiteh | according to this |
| 14:24.53 | jnwhiteh | http://www.stockholmpride.org |
| 14:24.56 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 14:24.57 | jnwhiteh | http://www.stockholmpride.org/howhetero/ |
| 14:25.00 | jnwhiteh | i'm 71% hereto |
| 14:25.13 | mikma | umm, gz? |
| 14:25.24 | mikma | let's see... |
| 14:25.26 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 14:26.02 | mikma | hmm? |
| 14:26.06 | Lopeppeppy | " ---------- doesn't use cliche words. We like that. See you at Stockholm Pride!" |
| 14:26.21 | alestane | Okay, took me a moment to parse "hereto" there, but okay then. |
| 14:26.23 | mikma | "MikkoMajuri doesn't use cliché words. We like that. See you at Stockholm Pride!" |
| 14:26.31 | jnwhiteh | apparently |
| 14:26.34 | jnwhiteh | "brunch" |
| 14:26.36 | Lopeppeppy | I'm obviously gender-neutral, no matter how much I talk about football. |
| 14:26.39 | jnwhiteh | is cliché |
| 14:26.42 | Fisker | i'm gonna launch shitter |
| 14:26.53 | Fisker | then you can post updates everytime you're taking a dump |
| 14:27.11 | mikma | not bad fister, not bad. |
| 14:27.19 | jnwhiteh | haha |
| 14:27.23 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: there is a toilet that does that |
| 14:27.23 | Lopeppeppy | Monster is a keyword. Interesting. |
| 14:27.26 | jnwhiteh | the toilet auto-twitters |
| 14:28.14 | mikma | marthastewarts is 57% hetero |
| 14:28.41 | jnwhiteh | what about oprah |
| 14:28.51 | Fisker | some people are funny btw |
| 14:29.19 | Fisker | Some guy is saying that Blizzard should at the very latest have notified us of extended maintanence by monday! |
| 14:29.20 | mikma | i can't remember how to type her twitter account |
| 14:29.45 | Fisker | Yeah and you need a 24-hour advance notice on emergency shutdowns and force majeure as well right? :D |
| 14:29.57 | Lopeppeppy | ... maintenance is on Tuesday, it always has been, GTF over it already, people. *laugh* |
| 14:30.25 | Lopeppeppy | mikma, http://twitter.com/Oprah |
| 14:30.27 | Fisker | wednesday here though |
| 14:31.04 | Lopeppeppy | Whatever day, it's consistent. Whiners should be shot. |
| 14:31.19 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 14:31.30 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: put away your gun and plug your ears, I'm about to whine |
| 14:31.34 | Fisker | They're mad that todays maintanence was extended by 6 hours |
| 14:31.53 | Ackis | whines at the stupid police who decided to have a standoff with a woman making me late for work instead of just shooting her. |
| 14:31.56 | Fisker | So some guy demanded that it should be posted by monday at the latest |
| 14:31.59 | mikma | jnwhiteh: Oprah = 70% |
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| 14:35.30 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, be careful they don't shoot *you* on accident. Can't you go around, Ackis/ |
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| 14:37.25 | mikma | foxlit: http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072209_173550.jpg <- :) |
| 14:38.12 | foxlit | /applaud |
| 14:38.43 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: I had to go around, took an extra 20 minutes or so |
| 14:39.10 | Lopeppeppy | That's not... too too bad, really... |
| 14:39.16 | Fisker | why so :) mikma ? |
| 14:39.45 | mikma | fisker: i'm having a good day! lots of coffee and soon we'll go to sauna |
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| 14:41.30 | alestane | WTB a more accurate JumpATron 4000. |
| 14:42.00 | Fisker | can i join mikma? |
| 14:42.25 | Shirik | I am writing you about a customer that came to engage in Private Banking services : The customer had a financial portfolio of $19,500,000.00 and this I help turned over in the purchase of securities in the capital markets. |
| 14:42.30 | Shirik | It's not from Nigeria! |
| 14:42.32 | Shirik | It must be real |
| 14:42.39 | mikma | fisker: nope |
| 14:42.51 | Fisker | why not? :( |
| 14:43.01 | mikma | cause i don't like fisters |
| 14:43.15 | Ackis | everyone likes to hate Fiskers |
| 14:43.31 | mikma | amen. |
| 14:43.59 | Fisker | i thought we were buddies |
| 14:44.18 | Ackis | we are enemies |
| 14:44.24 | Fisker | i know |
| 14:44.25 | Nihlo | but friends |
| 14:44.37 | mikma | butt friends |
| 14:44.51 | Nihlo | na |
| 14:44.59 | Shirik | huh |
| 14:45.03 | Shirik | anti-sec got 4chan? |
| 14:45.23 | Fisker | ? |
| 14:45.50 | Shirik | anti-sec is claiming they hacked 4chan |
| 14:46.37 | Fisker | server is running fine |
| 14:48.11 | Ackis | Fisker: your village called, they want their idiot back! HAH ZING |
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| 14:51.02 | Shirik | my bad Fisker, they said 4chanarchive.org |
| 14:51.46 | Fisker | http://kilo.naurunappula.com/nn/0/001/628/22463.jpg |
| 14:52.30 | Fisker | i sneezed Shirik |
| 14:53.34 | Shirik | lol |
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| 14:53.51 | cog|work | slaps Fisker around with a Shirik |
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| 14:57.56 | Nihlo | http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:4channormalpeople.png |
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| 15:15.28 | ZorbaBeta | nihlo, I love that picture. |
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| 15:23.54 | Ackis | Fisker: how do I find out what games are on steam w/o installing said steam client? |
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| 15:24.52 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik__] by ChanServ |
| 15:25.23 | Fisker | are you retarded Ackis ? |
| 15:26.17 | Ackis | slightly |
| 15:26.49 | Fisker | http://store.steampowered.com/ <-dur dur |
| 15:28.35 | Ackis | buy this for me: http://store.steampowered.com/app/29650/ |
| 15:29.03 | Zhinjio | dude, just install steam. whats the issue? |
| 15:29.09 | Zhinjio | <3 steam. |
| 15:29.16 | Ackis | Zhinjio: I'm at work |
| 15:29.18 | Ackis | :P |
| 15:29.31 | Zhinjio | you're not going to be able to play until you get home anyway |
| 15:29.32 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 15:29.46 | foxlit | "Available: 25 September 2009" anyway |
| 15:30.14 | Ackis | Zhinjio: aye, wanted to see if a game called Dragon Age was on there, gf's bday is tomorrow and I needa get her a present |
| 15:30.15 | Zhinjio | what game? |
| 15:30.20 | Zhinjio | aha |
| 15:30.36 | Ackis | Zhinjio: aion is the one that foxlit was talking about |
| 15:30.53 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 15:31.12 | Zhinjio | aion looks very heavily pvp focused for my tastes. |
| 15:31.14 | Zhinjio | so oh well |
| 15:32.07 | Industrial | it looks a bit asian mmo clone X |
| 15:32.13 | Industrial | *buzzer*, next |
| 15:32.39 | Seerah | Hubby and I have been playing Wizard101 :p |
| 15:33.28 | ZorbaBeta | wonder if Aion Steam will still have their hideous DRM |
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| 15:51.37 | KarlKFI | Rawr |
| 15:51.45 | alestane | RAWR |
| 15:51.46 | Cralor` | Does anyone know if RUNE_POWER_UPDATE has that thing where rune 3 is actually 5, 4 is really 6, vice-versa? |
| 15:51.52 | alestane | ~huggle Gryphon |
| 15:52.21 | KarlKFI | :-p he's not here |
| 15:52.51 | alestane | Oh well, I've banked one then. |
| 15:52.54 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR! |
| 15:53.01 | alestane | Huggles are never wasted. |
| 15:53.03 | KarlKFI | Did I miss anything exciting this week? |
| 15:53.12 | alestane | huggles Lopeppeppy, too. |
| 15:53.17 | KarlKFI | Rawr @ peppy |
| 15:53.35 | Lopeppeppy | You missed me! I missed you! How's you been? |
| 15:54.16 | KarlKFI | I's been family pwned at this family reunion |
| 15:54.29 | Lopeppeppy | Eeeew. |
| 15:54.46 | KarlKFI | I'm way ready for my own quiet apt and comfy bed |
| 15:54.50 | Industrial | http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/28782/604eba1f/alizee.html |
| 15:54.52 | Industrial | pic related |
| 15:55.23 | Fisker | slaps Industrial around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:56.15 | Lopeppeppy | I got all moved over the weekend, whew. |
| 15:56.21 | Fisker | i remember you |
| 15:56.23 | KarlKFI | Yays |
| 15:56.41 | KarlKFI | Bet that was oodles of fun |
| 15:56.52 | Lopeppeppy | Mostly yays... so tough to do it two weeks earlier than they said it would be. |
| 15:57.05 | KarlKFI | Join the club |
| 15:57.22 | KarlKFI | My apt needs more windows |
| 15:57.35 | KarlKFI | Not that I need |
| 15:57.57 | KarlKFI | Windows |
| 15:57.57 | KarlKFI | Or sun |
| 15:58.28 | KarlKFI | But a brease would be nice |
| 15:58.58 | Seerah | I almost thought that said breast.... |
| 15:59.08 | Seerah | then realized it was supposed to be breeze :p |
| 15:59.19 | KarlKFI | Those would be nice too |
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| 16:01.02 | Fisker | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=World%20War%20II&defid=3821558 <-i want this on a mug! |
| 16:01.22 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 16:01.33 | Fisker | what does your scanner say about my hate level? |
| 16:01.53 | Ackis | that you like penis |
| 16:02.03 | Lunessa | station |
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| 16:04.04 | Fisker | slaps Lunessa around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:04.42 | Lunessa | declares war on Fisker, because "that shit ain't funny any more." |
| 16:05.25 | Fisker | slaps Lunessa around a bit with a funny trout |
| 16:06.35 | KarlKFI | trouts Fisker |
| 16:06.56 | Fisker | hey KarlKFI |
| 16:07.25 | KarlKFI | catches Fisker trouting. |
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| 16:07.53 | Bruners | Lunessa: why so serious? |
| 16:08.03 | KarlKFI | catches Fisker red trouted |
| 16:08.07 | Fisker | o/o Bruners |
| 16:08.33 | Lunessa | Bruners: I guess you didn't read Fisker's link/ |
| 16:11.57 | Bruners | Lunessa: i always read links posted by Fisker |
| 16:12.07 | Lopeppeppy | I try to avoid them... :P |
| 16:12.38 | Lunessa | declares war on Fisker, because "that shit ain't funny anymore." |
| 16:13.02 | Ackis | declares war on Fisker's shit. |
| 16:13.17 | Bruners | Lunessa: why so serious ? |
| 16:16.25 | Lunessa | Today's Penny Arcade is good, but requires a lot of set-up. |
| 16:17.08 | Fisker | :o? |
| 16:17.09 | Cide | I wanna live like common people |
| 16:17.28 | Fisker | no |
| 16:17.34 | Fisker | stabs Cide |
| 16:17.45 | Cide | no, I'm too awesome for that anyway |
| 16:19.07 | Lunessa | I can see the photo in the paper now. The caption reads "Cide - Ambassador of Awesome waves to the unwashed masses from his motorcade." |
| 16:19.31 | Cide | but I'm not smiling. I'm bitter. and determined. I'm awesome. |
| 16:19.36 | Fisker | i need to reboot my computer |
| 16:19.38 | Fisker | but i don't wanna :( |
| 16:19.44 | Industrial | ha-ha! |
| 16:19.51 | cog|work | slaps Fisker around with an Ackis |
| 16:20.33 | Industrial | its the Ack(x)is of Fisker |
| 16:20.45 | Fisker | i saw what you did there |
| 16:20.51 | Fisker | o/o Industrial |
| 16:22.59 | cog|work | Dear Blizzard: Lua is not an acronym. http://www.blizzard.com/us/jobopp/lua-implementer.html |
| 16:23.16 | Fisker | LUA = LUA's Used as an Acronym |
| 16:23.25 | krka | Fisker: If you are referring to the programming language, you should write Lua instead of LUA ;-) |
| 16:23.32 | cog|work | lol |
| 16:23.34 | Fisker | LUA |
| 16:23.42 | cog|work | Fisker was botserved |
| 16:24.10 | Cide | botwned |
| 16:27.13 | Lopeppeppy | Loooo-ah? |
| 16:27.15 | Lopeppeppy | Loofah? |
| 16:27.16 | Lopeppeppy | Luau? |
| 16:27.33 | kapipi | Uh-aw |
| 16:28.25 | sioraiocht | haste: Question. Are most norwegian dialects closer to nynorsk or bokmål? |
| 16:28.45 | Ackis | Fisker always gets owned |
| 16:28.52 | Fisker | no |
| 16:29.34 | Bruners | sioraiocht: bokmål, nynorsk sucks big time |
| 16:29.42 | sioraiocht | Bruners: haha okay |
| 16:29.53 | sioraiocht | The wikipedia articles are extremely unclear on the matter |
| 16:29.54 | Bruners | wait, nynorsk is the cancer |
| 16:30.22 | Bruners | its everything bad in this world |
| 16:30.32 | Fisker | yes |
| 16:30.33 | sioraiocht | why? |
| 16:30.55 | alestane | Nynorsk, from what I rememer, has a lot of Danish influence. |
| 16:31.00 | Bruners | because theres 3 people who use it and make everyone learn it in school |
| 16:31.01 | Lunessa | So, after seeing the posting, how many of you submitted a resume? |
| 16:31.15 | Fisker | <- |
| 16:31.30 | Bruners | why do you need two writing languages in a country with 4 million people |
| 16:31.32 | Fisker | I'm a LUA-expert |
| 16:31.32 | sioraiocht | alestane: uhh, no |
| 16:31.44 | sioraiocht | alestane: the idea behind nynorsk was to route out danish influence |
| 16:31.59 | Lopeppeppy | I totally did, Lunessa! |
| 16:32.04 | sioraiocht | well, to reflect the dialects, following dano-norwegian |
| 16:32.06 | Lopeppeppy | Well, no, okay, i didn't... |
| 16:32.17 | alestane | But that's based on a conversation with a Norwegian nearly ten years ago, which I could easily be misremembering. |
| 16:32.26 | alestane | Lunessa: I did one better than that. |
| 16:33.08 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: :) |
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| 16:33.16 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: that's the final method I used as well. |
| 16:33.21 | Lunessa | alestane: You submitted the secure handlers code you already wrote for them for free? |
| 16:33.35 | alestane | I didn't need to, they had it already. |
| 16:33.38 | Lunessa | :D |
| 16:33.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I got desperate enough as well, to examine the objectives... closely and went for it |
| 16:33.52 | Lunessa | crosses his fingers for alestane. |
| 16:34.12 | Lunessa | and Sbo. |
| 16:34.14 | alestane | To be honest, Iriel wrote most of the actual code that went live. |
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| 16:34.35 | Lunessa | And Fisker too, I guess to be completely fair. |
| 16:35.06 | sioraiocht | alestane: Nynorsk is, for example, closer to Icelandic/Old Norse |
| 16:35.17 | Ackis | I thought about applying, but then realized I'd have to move to the states and decided that they couldn't pay me enough to do something that stupid. |
| 16:35.26 | ScytheBlade1 | and entirely unrelated: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001289.html <-- there is a lot of truth in that article |
| 16:35.30 | Fisker | tell me something in nynorsk |
| 16:35.38 | alestane | sioraiocht: I will happily accept that I don't know what I'm talking about there. |
| 16:35.55 | Fisker | Ackis i don't think that's a problem |
| 16:35.56 | sioraiocht | Fisker: I only know Icelandic, so I can only see what I can compare with it |
| 16:36.36 | Ackis | Fisker: for you or me? |
| 16:36.41 | Fisker | for you |
| 16:36.48 | Ackis | pfft |
| 16:37.01 | Fisker | in europe they atleast pay for your relocation |
| 16:37.31 | Ackis | Fisker: oh I'm not worried about moving costs, it's living in the states that I wouldn't like... different culture |
| 16:38.20 | Fisker | like being shot on the street? |
| 16:38.30 | sioraiocht | Ackis: where are you form? |
| 16:38.32 | Bruners | hates nynorsk |
| 16:38.33 | sioraiocht | *from |
| 16:38.41 | sioraiocht | Bruners: heheh |
| 16:39.13 | sioraiocht | Bruners: could be worse, could be høgnorsk |
| 16:39.21 | Ackis | Fisker: aye, the whole being shot and having my shoes stolen doesn't appeal to me |
| 16:39.35 | Ackis | sioraiocht: Canada |
| 16:39.57 | sioraiocht | Ackis: lol from the sound of it I thought you were moving from much further away |
| 16:40.38 | Bruners | sioraiocht: afaik høgnorsk is nynorsk |
| 16:40.51 | sioraiocht | Bruners: it's far more conservative than nynorsk |
| 16:40.52 | Ackis | it's a completely different culture between where I live and California |
| 16:41.07 | Spellbinder | högnorsk e nynorsk? |
| 16:41.22 | Lunessa | Ackis: - You watch too much TV, |
| 16:41.36 | Bruners | sioraiocht: it still is nynorsk |
| 16:41.44 | Bruners | aka cancer |
| 16:41.46 | Industrial | Bruners: zomg, what are you doing here -_- |
| 16:41.50 | Ackis | Lunessa: it's called I've visited the states before :P |
| 16:41.50 | Industrial | (Seryan) |
| 16:42.10 | Lunessa | And I've been to canada. I'll live here, thank you very much. |
| 16:42.15 | Bruners | Industrial: spreading my hate for nynorsk |
| 16:42.20 | sioraiocht | Ackis: where in canada? |
| 16:42.24 | Industrial | is happy to live in the Netherlands |
| 16:42.28 | Ackis | sioraiocht: Alberta |
| 16:42.44 | sioraiocht | LOL |
| 16:43.09 | sioraiocht | I kow there are differences, but I really think you are overemphasizing them |
| 16:43.32 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, them Californians are a wild crowd, albertans are tame sheeps. |
| 16:43.43 | Ackis | lol |
| 16:43.47 | sioraiocht | I think your worse culture shock would be having to leave the metric system |
| 16:43.51 | Bruners | sioraiocht: its about 9% of the people that use the stupid language |
| 16:44.00 | sioraiocht | Bruners: aye I know, heh |
| 16:44.18 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: at least we ain't SHeeples! :D hehe |
| 16:44.23 | Bruners | sioraiocht: i had one in a group at school, he rewrote the paper i had written since he wanted 25% nynorsk on our work |
| 16:44.36 | sioraiocht | ! |
| 16:44.59 | sioraiocht | lame |
| 16:45.30 | sioraiocht | wants to learn either norwegian or swedish nex |
| 16:45.31 | sioraiocht | t |
| 16:46.00 | Lunessa | "In fact, I think you can tell a competent software developer from an incompetent one with a single interview question: What's the worst code you've seen recently? If their answer isn't immediately and without any hesitation these two words: 'My own. ' Then you should end the interview immediately. Sorry, pal. You don't hate software enough yet. Maybe in a few more years. If you keep at it." |
| 16:46.02 | Bruners | sioraiocht: enjoy learning the gazillion dialects |
| 16:46.06 | Industrial | in my country if you drive 100km you cant understand what they are saying there \:D/ |
| 16:46.35 | sioraiocht | Industrial: lol, last night I was actually hearing from some afrikaans speakers about how the dutch don't cope well with dialects |
| 16:47.17 | Industrial | meh we just make fun of eachothers dialect |
| 16:47.23 | Industrial | 'least I do :D |
| 16:47.23 | Lunessa | reading that makes me think I'd pass that test, but my code would still suck. |
| 16:47.32 | sioraiocht | mostly saying that if afrikaans people say a word differently, dutch people seem stubbornly obtuse about not making the connection that they are saying the same word with a different sort of pronunciation |
| 16:47.42 | Bruners | sioraiocht: jeg, e, æ, i, eg, æg <- all forms of I |
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| 16:48.07 | sioraiocht | Bruners: well, I most people start with standard østnorsk |
| 16:48.15 | foxlit | Lunessa: sounds like a recipe for misery. |
| 16:48.18 | sioraiocht | although western norwegian would probalby be easier for me |
| 16:48.52 | Lunessa | foxlit: I'm not miserable at all. |
| 16:48.55 | Bruners | western = nynorsk bullshit |
| 16:49.06 | haste | is from Ãstfold. |
| 16:49.18 | sioraiocht | Bruners: angry! |
| 16:49.30 | haste | but I have some trøndersk in my norwegian also tho' :p |
| 16:49.57 | foxlit | Comments, on the other hand, are saner. |
| 16:49.59 | foxlit | "The answer to "What's the worst code you've seen recently?" is "My own" not because I hate it, but because it's the only code I've seen recently (couple of weeks)." |
| 16:50.13 | sioraiocht | haste: do you share bruners hate of nynorsk? |
| 16:50.30 | haste | not directly |
| 16:50.31 | Lunessa | foxlit: *chuckle* /agree |
| 16:50.52 | sioraiocht | Nynorsk: Eg kjem frå Noreg. Eg talar norsk. |
| 16:50.52 | sioraiocht | Icelandic: Ãg kem frá Noregi. Ãg tala norsku. |
| 16:50.54 | haste | the main reason so many people hate nynorsk is because we're forced into learning it also |
| 16:50.55 | Bruners | sioraiocht: i don't really hate it, but i think its stupid to enforce it on such a small country |
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| 16:51.10 | haste | bokmål: Jeg kommer fra Norge. Jeg snakker norsk. |
| 16:51.34 | Bruners | "eg kjem frå noreg, eg snakkar norsk" |
| 16:51.35 | foxlit | (that also happens to be grammatically correct danish) |
| 16:51.45 | sioraiocht | foxlit: heheh |
| 16:51.53 | Fisker | haste jeg kan ikke svømme |
| 16:52.08 | haste | foxlit: ofc it is, norwegian is like all the nice things from danish, and none of the shit |
| 16:52.15 | haste | Fisker: ikke jeg heller \:D/ LOL |
| 16:52.19 | Fisker | that's not true haste |
| 16:52.22 | Fisker | otherwise it would just be danish |
| 16:52.23 | sioraiocht | haste: the big problem with danish is that the phonology is actually unstable |
| 16:52.25 | haste | you know it is! |
| 16:52.42 | sioraiocht | many of the vowel distinctions are currenlty in transition |
| 16:52.47 | haste | I have a youtube coming up that's very related sioraiocht ! |
| 16:53.03 | Fisker | do it |
| 16:53.10 | sioraiocht | Fisker: Bokmål comes from Dano-Norwegian, which was Norwegianised Danish |
| 16:53.19 | haste | sioraiocht, Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk&fmt=18 |
| 16:53.31 | Bruners | haste: haha |
| 16:53.32 | Lunessa | soon, it will collapse under it's own weight into a point mass with a a powerful sucking from which no culture will be able to escape? |
| 16:53.34 | cog|work | taps his foot as he waits for the LHC |
| 16:53.44 | Lopeppeppy | That's what *she* said, Lunessa. |
| 16:53.46 | Fisker | old haste |
| 16:54.08 | sioraiocht | Lunessa: no, most of the vowel distictions will collapse into viewer vowels |
| 16:54.21 | sioraiocht | *fewer |
| 16:54.28 | sioraiocht | it happened in English in the Great Vowel Shift |
| 16:54.53 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: All I ask of a female companion is conversational ability, low maintenance, can stand me, and can generate and skillfully apply suction... |
| 16:55.17 | Lopeppeppy | Needs more hand pumps. |
| 16:55.34 | sioraiocht | Also, apparently danish children are some of the oldest when they finally start speaking |
| 16:55.35 | Lunessa | sioraiocht: I understand, I was just making a physics joke from a language discussion because I'm really fucking strange. |
| 16:55.42 | sioraiocht | Lunessa: oh =p |
| 16:56.20 | sioraiocht | will never learn danish, he fears the stød |
| 16:56.29 | sioraiocht | err, /me will never..e.tc |
| 16:56.30 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: *wink* |
| 16:57.00 | sioraiocht | haste: this is hysterical |
| 16:57.36 | Lopeppeppy | I am soooo cranky I should be shot and buried for a while. |
| 16:57.57 | sioraiocht | poor danes |
| 16:58.05 | haste | norwegian comedy :D |
| 16:58.13 | sioraiocht | are they actually speaking danish? |
| 16:58.15 | sioraiocht | or just babbling? |
| 16:58.25 | haste | mainly babbling |
| 16:58.29 | sioraiocht | heh, kk |
| 16:58.30 | haste | some words here and there :p |
| 16:58.36 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:58.41 | Fisker | i'm bored |
| 16:58.45 | Bruners | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eng5rJm9X7w&feature=related another one :P |
| 16:58.57 | sioraiocht | i dag = today? |
| 16:59.02 | Bruners | correct |
| 16:59.50 | Bruners | morning Torhal |
| 16:59.57 | Fisker | still old Bruners |
| 17:00.03 | Torhal | Yola Bruners |
| 17:00.12 | sioraiocht | you did not just say "yola" |
| 17:02.11 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQHX-SjgQvQ |
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| 17:04.01 | Bruners | Fisker: never seen that one |
| 17:04.27 | haste | I have :D |
| 17:05.12 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:05.28 | Bruners | mostly shows like that makey fun of my dialect |
| 17:05.30 | Torhal | sioraiocht: Really? Why didn't I? |
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| 17:05.35 | Fisker | what to do haste ? |
| 17:06.20 | haste | Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBEZco1HwdQ&fmt=18 ! |
| 17:07.13 | Bruners | haste: uhm, isnt that the beat from one of the Tungtvann songs? |
| 17:07.29 | haste | no idea, I don't listen much to tungtvann |
| 17:07.35 | Bruners | huge fail |
| 17:07.36 | Bruners | :P |
| 17:08.04 | haste | pfft, you know what music I like already :p |
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| 17:08.56 | Bruners | haste: since the lead "singer" comes from the same place as i, stein and amnith we kinda have to like them :P |
| 17:09.09 | haste | :D |
| 17:09.16 | Bruners | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDUZHq8uTew ! |
| 17:09.30 | haste | haha |
| 17:09.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ha - "Intel 8088: The Chip That Gave Birth to the Borg" |
| 17:09.54 | alestane | hugs Cairenn |
| 17:10.09 | haste | Bruners: it is a catchy song tho' :D |
| 17:10.14 | Cairenn | cuddles alestane |
| 17:10.17 | sioraiocht | haste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGYVgsLKaZI&feature=related |
| 17:11.03 | haste | :D |
| 17:11.48 | haste | sioraiocht: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66fULfwb2X4 this is hysterical imo :3 |
| 17:13.25 | sioraiocht | HAHA |
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| 17:14.11 | haste | those five videos are the only favs I have on youtube :p |
| 17:14.26 | sioraiocht | It took me a second to realise they were using all the word pairs that only differ by pitch |
| 17:14.44 | haste | it becomes worse :D |
| 17:15.02 | haste | at around lesson 4 even I get troubles figuring it out |
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| 17:16.46 | Bruners | swedish is easy tho |
| 17:16.57 | haste | fire up lesson 5 Bruners :D |
| 17:19.04 | Bruners | haste: still easy |
| 17:20.58 | haste | then your better at pronouncing swedish than me! |
| 17:21.29 | Dagmar | repeat after me... |
| 17:21.34 | Dagmar | "Bork... bork, bork." |
| 17:22.15 | Bruners | haste: skåne swedish is hard |
| 17:22.25 | haste | Bruners: to pronounce at least :p |
| 17:22.37 | haste | I don't find it that difficult to talk to people from skåne at least |
| 17:22.44 | Fisker | scratches haste |
| 17:23.27 | haste | throws a testicle at Fisker. |
| 17:23.49 | Bruners | haste: its like swedish with the danish tongue |
| 17:24.03 | haste | nah, not that bad :p |
| 17:24.10 | haste | I'm barely able to understand danish :( |
| 17:24.26 | Bruners | to og en halv fjesh |
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| 17:26.37 | Bruners | nioghalvfjerds = 79 |
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| 17:30.15 | Fisker | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/12/10204000431-glory-of-the-ulduar-raider-reward-update.html <-fail |
| 17:31.11 | Bruners | wtb those mounts |
| 17:31.22 | Dagmar | Hmm... Sam Raimi |
| 17:31.32 | Dagmar | I guess we know who some of the people in the movie will be |
| 17:32.19 | Pneu^ | only need 3 more achievements for ironbound :o |
| 17:32.43 | ccox | Lucy Lawless, Ted Raimi, Bruce Cambell, etc. |
| 17:33.11 | ccox | I wonder if he puts them in his contracts... |
| 17:33.50 | Dagmar | Lucy Lawless probably not (although it would be cool) but Ted Raimi for sure |
| 17:34.04 | Dagmar | I'm not sure if Bruce would be up for that or not |
| 17:34.27 | ccox | Why not? she's had a guest appearance in everything else lately. |
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| 17:34.45 | Lopeppeppy | She was in one of the spider mans |
| 17:34.46 | ccox | And Bruce might have to take a break from his gruling schedule on Burn Notice. |
| 17:34.50 | Dagmar | Yeah but in that genre she'd likely to just be seen as Xena |
| 17:34.53 | Fisker | i could end you right now haste |
| 17:35.05 | Fisker | do you want that? |
| 17:35.05 | Dagmar | ccox: Ding |
| 17:35.08 | haste | please do |
| 17:35.15 | Dagmar | Ted's a freaking chameleon |
| 17:35.17 | Ackis | Dagmar: lucy lawless was in bedtime stories! |
| 17:35.30 | Dagmar | He doesn't generally play major roles, but he pulls off the minor ones in double handfuls |
| 17:35.54 | Dagmar | Ackis: Was that a medieval setting? |
| 17:36.17 | Lopeppeppy | Lucy would make a great Kaldorei sentinel! |
| 17:36.35 | Lopeppeppy | What was Xena's little blonde sidekick's name? Gabrielle? |
| 17:36.51 | Dagmar | Yep. (*licks lips*) |
| 17:37.20 | Lopeppeppy | She'd have to be a human still, maybe a priestess. |
| 17:37.37 | Lopeppeppy | I suppose she *could* be a night elf priestess, but I'm just not seeing it. |
| 17:37.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, there's a new IT term I haven't heard before. "Planning your first Microsoft BI Solution" |
| 17:37.52 | ccox | Her? nah, Dwarf priestess |
| 17:37.52 | Dagmar | Too short |
| 17:37.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I did not read that as "Business Intelligence" |
| 17:38.09 | Lopeppeppy | She's not stocky enough to be dwarven. Just plain human. |
| 17:38.20 | Dagmar | "How to explain to your parents that you sometimes run Linux" |
| 17:38.27 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 17:38.36 | Fisker | you jumping out the closet Dagmar? |
| 17:38.57 | Dagmar | I'm full on gay by that metric. I'm using Linux right now |
| 17:39.49 | haste | how does linux make you gay? |
| 17:39.49 | Dagmar | In re to the "Microsofft BI Solution" from above |
| 17:40.04 | Bruners | i know gay people that run windows! |
| 17:40.15 | Fisker | nah Bruners |
| 17:40.20 | Fisker | they're running windows on top of bootcamp |
| 17:40.31 | Bruners | ^^ |
| 17:40.54 | Bruners | that was a good one |
| 17:49.53 | Dagmar | heheh |
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| 18:01.27 | Lunessa | ^^ Makes me think of Avenue Q songs. |
| 18:02.09 | alestane | "Everyone's a little, bit,...racist/" |
| 18:02.53 | Lunessa | No, I was thinking of "If I Were Gay" |
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| 18:03.17 | mikma | adys: hai there, the search on topright of pages doesn't remember the category you searched moment ago. always switches to "Items" |
| 18:03.44 | Adys | the search on topright of pages sucks cocks |
| 18:04.03 | Adys | I keep meaning to fix it but Bibi- cares more about useless features |
| 18:04.07 | Adys | Hi Bibi- |
| 18:04.37 | Bibi- | Hey Adys, glad you know how to code in javascript now |
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| 18:06.46 | Fisker | coffee? |
| 18:07.34 | Adys | how do you call a building level when it's for a small house? |
| 18:08.30 | Lopeppeppy | Huh? |
| 18:08.52 | Adys | Isn't it called differently? |
| 18:09.08 | Dagmar | I thought I was still called a floor. |
| 18:09.20 | Lopeppeppy | First floor, second floor, third floor, yeah. |
| 18:09.29 | Adys | mm ok |
| 18:09.46 | Adys | Can you actually say "this house is two floors high"? |
| 18:09.51 | Dagmar | "stories" |
| 18:09.52 | Lopeppeppy | Floor and story are used interchangeably sometimes. |
| 18:10.10 | Lopeppeppy | First floor, second floor, the house is 2 stories high. |
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| 18:10.18 | Adys | thought so |
| 18:10.24 | Dagmar | Generally "stories" is used for both office buildings and homes |
| 18:10.30 | alestane | Kind of inconsistent, but it is that way. |
| 18:11.03 | Lopeppeppy | Welcome to the English language, borked in the extreme. |
| 18:11.35 | Adys | nah |
| 18:11.48 | Adys | I'm French, you can't tell me that kind of stuff :) |
| 18:12.05 | amro | french being worse doesn't make english any less broken |
| 18:12.08 | Dagmar | Nah, there's plenty of cases where a different word is used to indicate membership in a group |
| 18:13.10 | Adys | one sheep, two sheep, an electorate |
| 18:13.16 | Dagmar | Adys++ |
| 18:13.33 | alestane | Not coming from a language, if I remember right, actually counts, "sixty, sixty-one...sixty-nine, sixty-ten, sixty-eleven, sixty-twelve...sixty-ninteen, four twenties, four twenties and one..." |
| 18:14.04 | Dagmar | whaaa |
| 18:14.05 | Adys | Eighty eighteen, Eighty nineteen.. |
| 18:14.32 | Dagmar | 8018, 8019 |
| 18:14.38 | Dagmar | That's just people being sloppy with numbers |
| 18:14.51 | alestane | No, those are 98, 99. |
| 18:14.52 | Adys | no, its how you count in french |
| 18:15.15 | Adys | belgian/canadians don't |
| 18:15.19 | amro | unless you're from belgium |
| 18:15.24 | amro | screw you for being faster |
| 18:15.31 | Ackis | Seerah: OMG :O :P |
| 18:15.32 | amro | septente fois |
| 18:15.49 | Adys | nonante neuf avec ta soeur. |
| 18:16.09 | Lopeppeppy | Tsk tsk. |
| 18:16.10 | alestane | "99 times with your sister" |
| 18:16.11 | Adys | then we'll see if I'm faster and you screw me |
| 18:16.13 | alestane | ? |
| 18:16.17 | Seerah | Ackis: ? |
| 18:16.29 | Ackis | Seerah: I'm NOT oscar the grouch :P lol |
| 18:16.36 | Adys | alestane: 99 with your sister, don't try and figure it out |
| 18:17.02 | alestane | Adys: I CAN swear in French. Not very well, I'm sure, but I can. |
| 18:17.05 | Seerah | lol |
| 18:17.15 | Adys | it's not even a swear |
| 18:17.23 | amro | alestane: swearing is also known as being courteous in french |
| 18:17.27 | amro | everybody does it! |
| 18:17.33 | Adys | even your mom |
| 18:17.42 | amro | everybody does your mom |
| 18:17.55 | Adys | everybody does, everybody does, everybody does your mom |
| 18:18.09 | Adys | In the Y-M-C---Wtf |
| 18:18.15 | Ackis | Adys: I didn't know you're french |
| 18:18.19 | alestane | And I did learn a few colorful phrases like "Quel'q'un à un verre dans le néz!" |
| 18:18.37 | amro | wtf |
| 18:18.47 | Adys | I think he meant worm |
| 18:18.48 | Adys | not glass |
| 18:18.51 | amro | oh |
| 18:19.02 | alestane | I'm told it means "SOMEone's had too many." |
| 18:19.10 | Adys | wtf |
| 18:19.18 | alestane | I could be wrong. |
| 18:19.37 | Adys | http://www.linternaute.com/expression/langue-francaise/572/avoir-un-verre-dans-le-nez/ |
| 18:19.38 | alestane | My french teacher got it out of some book, perhaps it's a local expression." |
| 18:19.39 | Ackis | tu est marde! |
| 18:19.44 | Lopeppeppy | Then he probably did mean glasses. |
| 18:19.56 | Adys | means being drunk, and yeah this sounds very local |
| 18:20.12 | Lopeppeppy | slang is slangy |
| 18:20.19 | alestane | It's apparently usually uttered while appearing to twist your own nose in your fist. |
| 18:20.42 | Ackis | fyi: http://www.abprices.com/Products/Detail/305 |
| 18:20.52 | alestane | I take it "ivre" means "drunk"? |
| 18:21.15 | Lopeppeppy | vaguely, yes. |
| 18:21.51 | Lunessa | Ackis you are mother? Don't you mean merde? |
| 18:22.49 | Ackis | Lunessa: I can barely speak French (like at maybe a 7 year old level) and you expcet me to spell it? Hell I can't even spell english |
| 18:23.15 | Lunessa | Hell, you don't even SPEAK English most of the time. |
| 18:23.26 | Ackis | wait wot? |
| 18:23.33 | Lopeppeppy | Code monkey gibber babble |
| 18:23.36 | Lunessa | The prosecution rests. |
| 18:23.42 | Ackis | ouch |
| 18:23.52 | Ackis | well played good sirs, well played |
| 18:26.34 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10203960492&postId=102028322626&sid=1#4 <-i'm such a jerk |
| 18:27.16 | Lopeppeppy | And, this is new how? |
| 18:27.30 | NeoTron | it isn't |
| 18:27.55 | Fisker | You should read that and the first post |
| 18:27.56 | Fisker | i hoho'd |
| 18:27.59 | NeoTron | but Fisker feels like he needs to reinforce his bad boy image |
| 18:28.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker: win |
| 18:28.14 | Lunessa | Fisker: There are people who will take offense at anything. There was a petition to force the change of the second LotR movie name because someone took offense that it was called "The Two Towers" |
| 18:28.56 | Cide | I called two really tall twins in my high school class that |
| 18:28.57 | alestane | Claiming this was insensitive to those who were traumatized in one way or another by the destruction of the World Trade Center. |
| 18:28.59 | Cide | true story. |
| 18:29.09 | Fisker | heh alestane |
| 18:29.10 | alestane | But in Swedish, I presume. |
| 18:29.11 | vithos | i take offense to such a petition. |
| 18:29.20 | Cide | alestane: no |
| 18:29.31 | Lunessa | You'll note that the movie shipped with it's title intact. |
| 18:30.01 | Fisker | naw Lunessa |
| 18:30.10 | Fisker | It's LOTR: Two raging giant hard-ons in denmark |
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| 18:30.59 | Lunessa | Fisker: In Denmark, everything is a raging hard-on. |
| 18:31.11 | *** join/#wowuidev Torhal (n=callahan@74-132-207-20.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 18:34.09 | ScytheBlade1 | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Support-Should-Never-Be-Necessary.aspx |
| 18:34.11 | ScytheBlade1 | is amazing |
| 18:35.19 | alestane | "Problem Point: We failed to provide the client with a version of their manual in garbled, unpunctuated non-english. " |
| 18:35.47 | ScytheBlade1 | The ending of that post is argubably the most awesome I've ever seen on TDWTF |
| 18:38.07 | Lunessa | "Shortly after reviewing the first batch of reports, the CTO had another revelation: many users are simply lazy, stupid, or lazy and stupid, and no amount of improvement could ever change that." |
| 18:38.47 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the line I was talking about, yup. |
| 18:40.01 | Cairenn | oh, before I forget yet again .... Lunessa - I don't like lamellibranch plylum Mollusca |
| 18:40.06 | Lunessa | While the idea that support should never be /needed/ is a delicious dream, the fact is... with all the improvements you make, shit will still go wrong and someone out there will find a way to make it go wrong, and then demand you do something about it. |
| 18:40.26 | Lunessa | Cairenn: So, I should dtick to plying you with booze. |
| 18:40.38 | Cairenn | watch your spelling! |
| 18:40.39 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:40.39 | Lunessa | stick |
| 18:40.47 | Torhal | Wow |
| 18:40.51 | Lunessa | My turn to blush |
| 18:40.54 | alestane | "layered gills"? |
| 18:40.58 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:41.06 | Cairenn | alestane: bivalve mollusks |
| 18:41.08 | Cairenn | :p |
| 18:41.13 | alestane | ~wiki lamellibranch |
| 18:41.17 | Lunessa | She doesn't like oysters. |
| 18:41.21 | Cairenn | that too ;) |
| 18:41.24 | alestane | That's more or less what I guessed. |
| 18:41.42 | ScytheBlade1 | is suddenly reminded of a few select sentences he uttered last night |
| 18:41.44 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Me either actually, it was just good for the joke yesterday. |
| 18:41.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Dewin (n=Daniel@c-71-59-222-35.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 18:41.55 | Cairenn | two days ago, actually, but yeah ;) |
| 18:41.56 | alestane | That is, there is some variety of mollusk that you do like? |
| 18:42.06 | Cairenn | alestane: actually, no |
| 18:42.36 | alestane | Not even calamari? |
| 18:42.40 | Cairenn | ewww |
| 18:42.41 | alestane | Okay then. |
| 18:43.13 | Cairenn | it makes my dad shake his head at me, actually |
| 18:43.14 | alestane | So, do not serve Cairenn clams, oysters, snails, octopodes, etc. |
| 18:43.19 | Cairenn | ewwwwww |
| 18:43.22 | Cairenn | gods no! |
| 18:43.28 | Torhal | Crickets? |
| 18:43.32 | Osagasu | Ants! |
| 18:43.36 | Cairenn | no no no no NO |
| 18:43.50 | Torhal | Sauteed millipedes? |
| 18:43.51 | Osagasu | Ants are nummy if you get the right type. |
| 18:43.52 | Lunessa | She'll probably skip the fish too. Buy her a turkey burger and fries. |
| 18:43.57 | alestane | So, no arthropods either. |
| 18:44.15 | Cairenn | go back to what you guys were previously discussing, I just wanted to tell Lunessa that before I fogot |
| 18:44.17 | Cairenn | forgot* |
| 18:44.21 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 18:44.25 | ScytheBlade1 | desire to avoid conversation |
| 18:44.28 | Cairenn | Lunessa: no I won't, fish is good |
| 18:44.39 | Torhal | So...I couldn't resist. I mentioned Uwe Boll in the WoW movie thread. |
| 18:44.41 | Lunessa | And nothing with Aspartame. |
| 18:44.44 | alestane | And here I thought you said you were from Nova Scotia. Lobster? |
| 18:44.45 | Torhal | cackles! |
| 18:44.47 | Cairenn | that I will |
| 18:44.55 | Osagasu | Torhal, you make grown men cry. |
| 18:45.00 | Cairenn | alestane: as I said, it makes my dad shake his head at me |
| 18:45.02 | Torhal | Osagasu: That was my intent. |
| 18:45.09 | Osagasu | Just making sure. |
| 18:45.11 | Torhal | Haha |
| 18:45.44 | Cairenn | Torhal: hope you never meet me, I'll beat you with a stick for bringing that name onto my site |
| 18:45.53 | Torhal | laughs! |
| 18:46.00 | Torhal | I had to! |
| 18:46.07 | Cairenn | no no you didn't |
| 18:46.23 | Torhal | I wanted to see how many people could convincingly retch via text. |
| 18:46.29 | Fisker | sounds kinky |
| 18:46.34 | Thunder_Child | you promise stick beatings Cairenn, but you never deliver |
| 18:46.47 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: you don't beg well enough |
| 18:46.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: it is her gaze/stare the kills |
| 18:46.58 | Osagasu | Uwe Boll is the one person that I would accept a contract on pro bono. |
| 18:46.59 | Thunder_Child | i dont beg at all |
| 18:47.00 | Lunessa | ... HAWT |
| 18:47.08 | Torhal | Osagasu: Haha |
| 18:47.27 | Osagasu | It's for the good of all that is cultured in this world. |
| 18:47.56 | alestane | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/12/18/ |
| 18:48.45 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: curious, you started the next mission yet? |
| 18:48.49 | *** join/#wowuidev tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub) |
| 18:48.49 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 18:48.52 | alestane | ScytheBlade1: Probably not today. |
| 18:48.59 | alestane | I'm trying to be semi-productive. |
| 18:49.03 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 18:49.08 | alestane | I watched the spiel |
| 18:49.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Kill some zerg, right? |
| 18:49.28 | alestane | Rescue Tassadar, I think. |
| 18:49.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, right, forgot that one |
| 18:49.35 | alestane | Raynor comes and helps you out. |
| 18:49.41 | ScytheBlade1 | You'll hate that too, but you get carriers |
| 18:49.57 | ScytheBlade1 | (They still have arbiters, you still don't) |
| 18:50.10 | Cairenn | Osagasu: that's like saying SmackyWhack is for the good of all that is the legal system (in the US) |
| 18:50.30 | alestane | THe main reason I hate arbiters is that when you chase them down with a bunch of scouts, they promptly banish them all and run away. |
| 18:50.36 | ScytheBlade1 | yup. |
| 18:50.41 | ScytheBlade1 | same |
| 18:50.45 | Adys | I just noticed |
| 18:50.49 | Adys | I JUST noticed |
| 18:50.58 | Adys | i got the portal song looping in my headphones |
| 18:50.59 | alestane | And when they're out of energy, you still can't catch them before they lead your scouts right into the middle of your base. |
| 18:51.02 | Adys | since over two hours |
| 18:51.12 | Osagasu | What's SmackyWhack? |
| 18:51.27 | Cairenn | Jack Thompson |
| 18:51.37 | Osagasu | Ah |
| 18:51.40 | Dagmar | No contest there |
| 18:51.48 | Cairenn | sorry, picked up calling him SmackyWhack from GU |
| 18:52.07 | alestane | "Yak Thompson" was the one I picked up. |
| 18:52.07 | Dagmar | It's one of the _nicer_ things you can say about the man |
| 18:52.11 | Osagasu | Cair, when I said I'd accept a contract on Uwe Boll, I meant that as in bullet to the brain. |
| 18:52.20 | Cairenn | Osagasu: ;) |
| 18:52.29 | Thunder_Child | clutch is kinda pissing me off. LHC fuckup != Zombies |
| 18:52.37 | Cairenn | s/;/:/ |
| 18:52.44 | Osagasu | Jack Thompson at least has noble goals, as misguided and twisted as they are. |
| 18:52.56 | Cairenn | snorts inelegantly |
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| 18:53.04 | Dagmar | I really, really doubt that. |
| 18:53.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, well, you could say the same of o a lot of things |
| 18:53.12 | Dagmar | I think the guy is a charlatan through and through. |
| 18:53.16 | durcyn | TC: http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific-reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.html |
| 18:53.22 | durcyn | it could happen, man. |
| 18:53.30 | Dagmar | If had "noble goals" he woudln't have been submitting *gay porn* as evidence |
| 18:53.30 | alestane | "Charlie Brown, in all the history of the world, there has never been more damage done, than by people who thought they were doing the right thing." |
| 18:53.57 | Cairenn | aka "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" |
| 18:54.03 | Dagmar | Jack Thompson is what happens when law schools let trolls through. |
| 18:54.37 | Thunder_Child | durcyn, none of thoes have anything to do with the LHC |
| 18:54.54 | durcyn | TC: but they -do- have to do with zombies, you see. |
| 18:54.55 | Osagasu | The LHC can't cause zombification, though... |
| 18:55.10 | durcyn | and who needs an LHC when you have those? |
| 18:55.11 | Thunder_Child | exactly, hence clutch is iritating |
| 18:55.30 | Thunder_Child | You play as a person who ? ? |
| 18:55.30 | Thunder_Child | ? ? has survived a catastrophe of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), ? ? |
| 18:55.30 | Thunder_Child | ? ? while everyone else in the city has been transformed into a ? ? |
| 18:55.30 | Thunder_Child | ? ? bloodthirsty zombie. |
| 18:55.42 | Thunder_Child | well..that was a fail C/P |
| 18:56.34 | alestane | Customer: âWow, thatâs a pretty big rack youâve got there!â |
| 18:56.35 | alestane | Me: *looking up from monitor screen* ââ¦excuse me?â |
| 18:56.35 | alestane | (I then follow his gaze to see him looking at a giant walk-in rack mount we have for sale.) |
| 18:56.35 | alestane | Customer: âOh, wow. I gotta watch how I phrase things.â |
| 18:56.47 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 18:56.59 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 18:57.11 | Zhinjio | refer to today's Penny Arcade for further reading on the topic |
| 18:57.12 | Cairenn | alestane: my how you've ... grown ... /snicker |
| 18:57.53 | alestane | Cairenn: I should perhaps have rephrased. I was quoting NAR, since the last time I posted a link there, Peppy almost caught a virus off it. |
| 18:58.06 | Cairenn | grin |
| 18:59.13 | alestane | Customer: âTwo for âIce Ageâ, please.â |
| 18:59.14 | alestane | Clerk: âNo problem. Did you want the 3-D showing at 2:15, or the regular, 2-D showing at 2:50?â |
| 18:59.14 | alestane | Customer: âWhatâs the difference?â |
| 18:59.14 | alestane | Clerk: ââ¦thirty-five minutes, and a dimension.â |
| 19:00.08 | dardack | anyone knwo if there is a talent calculator for 3.2 yet? |
| 19:00.25 | Adys | sure |
| 19:00.30 | Adys | http://talent.mmo-champion.com |
| 19:00.47 | dardack | thanks i always forget about mmo-champ |
| 19:01.03 | Thunder_Child | thats because it needs polishing |
| 19:01.05 | dardack | no it's not for 3.2 yet |
| 19:01.49 | dardack | i wanna read the exact descriptiong of unholy blight |
| 19:01.57 | Lunessa | Someone in my shape shouldn't be drinking. |
| 19:02.50 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, you would go crazy w/o drinking |
| 19:03.10 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: what makes you think I haven't already? |
| 19:03.51 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, well, you are as sane as the rest of us. so take that how you would like. |
| 19:04.59 | Lunessa | Statistics claim that 1 in 5 people suffer mental illness. Get 4 friends, if they're all ok, it's you. However, the sampling of your friends may give you different results. |
| 19:05.50 | Dagmar | 2 in 5 don't suffer. |
| 19:05.56 | Dagmar | ...they enjoy it. |
| 19:06.12 | Lunessa | Dagmar: And then there's you. You revel in it. |
| 19:06.18 | Dagmar | Of course. |
| 19:06.27 | Dagmar | The voices in my head tell me secrets |
| 19:06.33 | Ackis | http://www.abprices.com/user/Ackis yay me? |
| 19:06.41 | Lunessa | I wouldn't be broke if the voices in my head would pay rent. |
| 19:06.51 | Ackis | alestane: would an acceptable response by the clerk also have been "2 dimensions"? |
| 19:07.10 | alestane | That would have gone even MORE over their heads, I think. |
| 19:07.26 | Ackis | true |
| 19:07.33 | alestane | And no, the other difference is In a dimension, not a dimension itself. |
| 19:07.44 | Ackis | meh :P |
| 19:08.07 | alestane | Um, WHAT? http://notalwaysright.com/wake-me-when-youre-smarter/2234 |
| 19:08.32 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:09.36 | Cide | I do think some of those are fake |
| 19:10.26 | alestane | This one, for example, is a little too pat: http://notalwaysright.com/kookie-cookie-karma/2230 |
| 19:15.14 | Ackis | Fisker: is this you: http://failblog.org/2009/07/22/backspin-fail/ |
| 19:15.58 | Dagmar | The McCain/Palin sign on the floor is a giveaway |
| 19:18.00 | Adys | yea |
| 19:18.22 | mikma | adys: did you see me whining at you? |
| 19:18.53 | Adys | about the search box? |
| 19:19.09 | mikma | ya |
| 19:19.16 | Adys | did you see me answering to your whine |
| 19:19.16 | Adys | :P |
| 19:19.34 | mikma | no cause you didn't point it at me :D |
| 19:22.50 | *** join/#wowuidev Wobin (n=Wobin@124.170.89.124) |
| 19:22.52 | Ackis | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/funny-pictures-two-cats-are-in-a-bed.jpg |
| 19:25.12 | Fisker | sounds hot Ackis |
| 19:25.15 | Ackis | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/fail-owned-school-trojan-fail.jpg?w=500&h=692 lol |
| 19:27.28 | Dagmar | I worry more about that Ottowa amenities sign |
| 19:27.39 | Dagmar | I'm *guessing* some vandalism was involved |
| 19:28.36 | Ackis | I am very busy at work as you all can tell |
| 19:28.44 | Ackis | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/07/20/funny-pictures-video-kitteh-still-loves-goggie/ |
| 19:28.57 | Ackis | I tried reading the comments on that last one... no idea wtf they're saying |
| 19:29.27 | Adys | lol@you for trying to read internet comments |
| 19:29.43 | Ackis | :P |
| 19:32.23 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 19:33.27 | ScytheBlade1 | So my friend, the college lab admin who would put a 24-core beast on any password hash of mine he ever gets his hands on |
| 19:33.30 | ScytheBlade1 | http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8276/unauthorized.png |
| 19:33.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Amuses me greatly |
| 19:34.45 | sacarasc | Heh. |
| 19:34.47 | Dagmar | That's awesome |
| 19:35.12 | ScytheBlade1 | He does the same thing for facebook photos |
| 19:36.14 | Lunessa | Awesome |
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| 19:37.48 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: seriously get him to setup http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html |
| 19:37.54 | ScytheBlade1 | He's seen it |
| 19:38.44 | *** part/#wowuidev Guest31384 (n=chris@c-75-75-186-99.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 19:40.45 | Fisker | man |
| 19:40.49 | Fisker | if i ever get wifi i'm doing that |
| 19:42.35 | Ackis | lol Arrowmaster that seems like so much fun... too much effort, but a lot of fun :P |
| 19:42.44 | Lunessa | I have it, but I was lazy and only locked it behind an insanely long WEP key. |
| 19:43.13 | Arrowmaster | insanely long WEP key? why the hell would you use WEP? |
| 19:43.23 | Lunessa | Did I mention LAZT |
| 19:43.25 | Lunessa | LAZY? |
| 19:43.31 | ScytheBlade1 | is using WEP |
| 19:43.37 | ScytheBlade1 | And 802.11b |
| 19:43.39 | Arrowmaster | btw i speak from experience, inputing a 63 character WPA2 key into a ps3 using a controller fucking sucks |
| 19:43.42 | ScytheBlade1 | sighs at old hardware |
| 19:43.55 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: try inputing it in with a Wii |
| 19:44.01 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 19:44.09 | Ackis | grumbles |
| 19:44.10 | Dagmar | ugh |
| 19:44.19 | Fisker | Try inputting it with a mindcontrol device |
| 19:44.29 | Lunessa | I don't own a console. I was just lazy and wanted to surf the net from the bedroom without running cat-5 |
| 19:44.30 | Adys | try disabling encryption |
| 19:44.31 | Dagmar | Man they REALLY need an option that says "Get the damn WPA key from a text file on this thumb drive I'm plugging into you" |
| 19:45.06 | durcyn | Lunessa: there are easier ways to get porn |
| 19:45.19 | Adys | such as? |
| 19:46.07 | Lunessa | And frankly, I probably didn't need to get internet access at all. I can easily login to any of the 3 dozen wifi networks I can scan from my apartment that are unsecured at all. |
| 19:46.15 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck didnt google suggest this to me earlier considering all the times ive search for "man *" http://www.google.com/coop/profile?user=006335557234340235827 |
| 19:47.55 | Adys | wow |
| 19:48.20 | Industrial | you search for mens' stars? o_O |
| 19:48.39 | Industrial | oh, manual. |
| 19:48.43 | Arrowmaster | no i was searching for the manual for your mom |
| 19:48.53 | Industrial | ;D |
| 19:50.28 | Ackis | that's a short manual |
| 19:50.32 | Ackis | insert penis, get bacon |
| 19:51.11 | Lunessa | Ackis: That's kind of scary actually. |
| 19:51.31 | Ackis | mmm bacon |
| 19:52.25 | tekkub | and Ackis just ruined my avatar I've had for like 5 years |
| 19:52.30 | Industrial | good thing years of bombardment by internet humour doesnt make my mind visualize. |
| 19:52.36 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: haha |
| 19:52.40 | Ackis | tekkub: just type ~Ackis++ |
| 19:52.51 | tekkub | ~Ackis--------- |
| 19:53.09 | Ackis | on a different note, any of you do the whole "tea tree" stuff w/ your hair? I want to know why the hell it burns |
| 19:53.21 | Ackis | it's like my head get a STI |
| 19:53.23 | Arrowmaster | tea tree? |
| 19:53.31 | Ackis | yah |
| 19:53.40 | Arrowmaster | do i want to ask? |
| 19:53.40 | Lunessa | tekkub: I commented on the UI & Macros forum that getting people to upgrade their computers is harder than getting you to stop eating bacon. |
| 19:53.52 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: It's an herbal thing |
| 19:53.59 | Dagmar | It's acidic. |
| 19:54.04 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: just at type of shampoo/conditioner |
| 19:54.08 | Dagmar | ...not as bad as lemon juice, but it'll do |
| 19:54.17 | Lunessa | and most of those things contain eucalyptus oil. |
| 19:54.36 | Dagmar | You'll occasionally find tea tree toothpicks at the hippie store |
| 19:54.36 | Ackis | Dagmar: it's acidic? |
| 19:54.36 | Dagmar | I fail to see any advantage over cinnamon oil |
| 19:54.40 | Arrowmaster | i just let mine grow, its around the same length as Torhal's |
| 19:54.51 | Ackis | the hair salon people told me to try it since I'm going bald, they said it might help |
| 19:55.31 | Dagmar | So might rubbing marbles on your head |
| 19:55.54 | Dagmar | If you need styling advice, ask a stylist. If you need medical advice, find a doctor. |
| 19:56.05 | Ackis | :P she stated it'll help thicken the existing hair |
| 19:56.16 | Dagmar | She's a hair stylist |
| 19:56.17 | Industrial | shave it! |
| 19:56.46 | Arrowmaster | ill give you some of mine Ackis, i wish it was thinner |
| 19:56.47 | Ackis | Industrial: can't shave head any longer, it's not professional for me |
| 19:56.51 | Dagmar | Go have some replanting done |
| 19:57.03 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: I have thick hair in the places where it's not thinning |
| 19:57.16 | Industrial | Ackis: how so |
| 19:57.22 | Lunessa | Ackis: Yeah, right. Mostly what that shit does is scrape the oils off your scalp. It won't regrow or help thicken your hair. |
| 19:57.56 | Ackis | Lunessa: oh didn't expect it to regrow hair, just thought it would help existing hair |
| 19:58.11 | Ackis | Industrial: I look like a goon with my head shaved |
| 19:58.34 | Dagmar | Most of the medical-oriented advice you'll get from a hair stylist leans towards the level of quality you might expect from a witch, and I don't mean wiccans. |
| 19:58.35 | Industrial | smile more? :p |
| 19:58.41 | Arrowmaster | i used to shave my head, but i havent had a haircut since 2003 |
| 19:58.45 | Lunessa | Ackis: Trust me, I went through this when I went bald. |
| 19:58.49 | Dagmar | Ackis: What's wrong with looking like a goon? |
| 19:58.56 | Dagmar | Fewer people will go out of their way to piss you off. |
| 19:59.02 | Industrial | ^ |
| 19:59.08 | Ackis | lol |
| 19:59.14 | Industrial | I get my hair millimetered every 4 weeks or so |
| 19:59.21 | Industrial | its awsum lazy |
| 19:59.23 | Ackis | the other reason I got it was for azchema (sp?) |
| 19:59.24 | batbot | Ackis, nothing found. |
| 19:59.28 | Ackis | shit up batbot |
| 19:59.33 | Ackis | purl > batbot |
| 19:59.34 | purl | --> batbot(); |
| 19:59.34 | batbot | purl: @ [string "return batbot();"]:1: attempt to call global 'batbot' (a nil value) |
| 19:59.35 | Dagmar | Industrial: Im not sure if that beats me owning my own set of hedge trimmers or not |
| 19:59.43 | Ackis | hahaha |
| 20:00.44 | Arrowmaster | my long hair is actually in a braided ponytail right now, i havent combed it in a week because im lazy |
| 20:01.05 | Ackis | ... |
| 20:01.15 | Ackis | Arrowmaster has a handlebar... interesting |
| 20:01.28 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:01.34 | Industrial | I'd like long hair ,headbanging is just that less cool when you dont have long hair |
| 20:01.35 | Fisker | i has slap |
| 20:01.47 | Ackis | headbanging hurts |
| 20:02.29 | Dagmar | mosh > headbang |
| 20:03.56 | Industrial | I was there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFS7judObds |
| 20:03.57 | Industrial | :p |
| 20:04.44 | foxlit | Hrm. SC games should auto-save. |
| 20:05.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:05.21 | ScytheBlade1 | You'll quickly learn how to save when needed ;) |
| 20:05.42 | foxlit | That's just it -- it's often not. |
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| 20:06.38 | mikma | adys: http://www.makeuseof.com/tech-fun/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/firefoxplugins.jpg |
| 20:06.38 | A-KO | which is faster in lua? searching through a string or searching through a table? If you're trying to match values... |
| 20:06.53 | Cide | "trying to match values" is not very descriptive |
| 20:07.12 | Industrial | mikma: rofl |
| 20:07.15 | Cide | an associative array lookup is faster than a string match |
| 20:07.18 | A-KO | okay |
| 20:07.27 | foxlit | However, the unit-must-stay-alive objectives are a pain -- everything is fine until that unit charges off into an enemy base while you're doing something else. |
| 20:07.52 | ScytheBlade1 | in SC? |
| 20:08.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Keep them in the base |
| 20:08.08 | Industrial | yeah I just never use them |
| 20:08.08 | Industrial | :p |
| 20:08.24 | Industrial | kill everything then walk over heh |
| 20:08.58 | foxlit | Silly design, however. |
| 20:09.42 | Arrowmaster | theres that one mission i always laugh about, where you have to get a certain unit to the downed battlecruiser and its so simple you just need to build 12 dropships put it in one and tell them all to unload on the beacon and pray the one with the unit doesnt get destroyed |
| 20:15.07 | Fisker | i can't wait for SC2 |
| 20:15.21 | Industrial | ^ |
| 20:15.25 | Industrial | whats the ETA anyway |
| 20:15.30 | Industrial | heh im abd |
| 20:15.35 | Fisker | late 2021 |
| 20:15.40 | Industrial | i cant wait for sc2 pro league games |
| 20:15.41 | Industrial | :< |
| 20:15.46 | Fisker | or late 2009 if you believe blizzard |
| 20:17.05 | Fisker | But i can't remember a RTS whichs singleplayer campaign doesn't basically just tell you to kill the opponents base |
| 20:19.23 | Industrial | congratulations, you now understand how RTS games work |
| 20:19.51 | Ackis | Fisker: SC2 will suck donkey balls |
| 20:19.57 | Cide | wc3 had a reasonable variation, I thought |
| 20:20.18 | Cide | especially rexxar's campaign |
| 20:20.26 | Cide | which was nothing like that |
| 20:20.41 | Industrial | Ackis: no it wont! it will give rise to a whole new series of gosu gameplay! |
| 20:20.46 | ScytheBlade1 | truth @ rexxar's campaign |
| 20:21.19 | Ackis | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7205802619193330364 there were some people talking about that dude yesterday |
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| 20:21.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Though to be honest, I quite enjoy little more than "obliterate these bases" |
| 20:22.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Taking things so obviously stacked against you in crazy ways and winning is quite entertaining |
| 20:23.29 | Industrial | Ackis: what about him? |
| 20:23.55 | Ackis | Industrial: just linking the video |
| 20:24.04 | Ackis | I saw some famous dj duder once |
| 20:24.08 | Ackis | might have been him |
| 20:24.10 | Ackis | dunno though |
| 20:24.16 | Ackis | the rave was boring as hell |
| 20:24.22 | Ackis | and I had to go to bed cuz I was tired |
| 20:25.59 | Industrial | this -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-68oA61_yuw&fmt=18 |
| 20:25.59 | Industrial | :D |
| 20:26.31 | Ackis | meh I don't like that music |
| 20:26.43 | Ackis | give me some celine dion, avril or something like that any day! |
| 20:26.46 | Ackis | snickers. |
| 20:27.05 | Industrial | eep no, not enough 'everything needs to die' |
| 20:27.40 | Arrowmaster | i like the music in that one but not the vocals |
| 20:28.35 | Industrial | I see grunting as another instrument, not really as something I'd want to interpret :p |
| 20:28.38 | Thunder_Child | screaming != vocals |
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| 20:45.37 | cogumel0 | I'm trying to modify ouf_slim's layout to suit my needs, and I've come across something rather strange in his coding which I can't rly understand, was wondering if someone could give me a hand with it |
| 20:46.15 | jnwhiteh | we can certainly consideri it |
| 20:46.30 | Industrial | and pastey.net \:D/ |
| 20:47.09 | cogumel0 | there's this function declared as: local updateHealth = function(self, event, unit, bar, min, max) , but the only time it's actually called, it's being called as self.PostUpdateHealth = updateHealth. why are no arguments being passed when he calls it even though the function expects 6 of them ? |
| 20:47.27 | Arrowmaster | ~pil |
| 20:47.28 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 20:47.28 | alestane | He's not calling the function. |
| 20:47.43 | Arrowmaster | ^^ read it |
| 20:47.49 | cogumel0 | what is he doing then ? |
| 20:48.12 | alestane | He's saving it into that key. |
| 20:48.28 | Arrowmaster | an assignment |
| 20:48.33 | alestane | So that he can call self:PostUpdateHealth(self, event, unit, bar, min, max). |
| 20:48.50 | cogumel0 | so calling updatehealth(1,2,3,4,5,6) is the same as doing self.postupdatehealth(1,2,3,4,5,6) from now on ? like a pointer? |
| 20:48.53 | alestane | Or rather, self:PostUpdateHealth(event, unit, bar, min, max). |
| 20:49.03 | alestane | cogumel0: Basically, yes. |
| 20:49.10 | cogumel0 | ok, that makes sense ... |
| 20:49.54 | cogumel0 | right... |
| 20:49.56 | cogumel0 | but |
| 20:50.18 | cogumel0 | PostUpdateHealth only exists once during the whole thing :P |
| 20:50.38 | cogumel0 | so even though he assigns it, he doesn't call it after that.. |
| 20:50.57 | alestane | oUF might somewhere, though. |
| 20:50.59 | Arrowmaster | its probably used by the ouf core |
| 20:51.40 | Industrial | yes it is |
| 20:52.01 | cogumel0 | ahh, ok :) |
| 20:52.03 | cogumel0 | thx |
| 20:52.11 | alestane | He's setting up a callback. |
| 20:52.23 | Industrial | in the ouf folder check out the files in the elements directory, they each tell you how the parts (healthbar etc) work and what options you can set for them |
| 20:53.18 | alestane | Now, he probably could have left out the "local updateHealth" entirely and skipped straight to "function self:PostUpdateHealth(event, unit, bar, min, max)". |
| 20:54.34 | cogumel0 | not gonna question that :P |
| 20:54.51 | cogumel0 | now... one more thing :) |
| 20:55.06 | cogumel0 | I noticed he used self.Power.value for setting the text for the power and then the same for health etc etc |
| 20:55.55 | cogumel0 | but what if I want two totally independent values for both power and health ? like... self.health.value1 and self.health.value2 and the same for the power ? |
| 20:56.25 | cogumel0 | I basically want to the put the health percentage inside the health bar and the current value underneath the frame |
| 20:56.55 | Industrial | self.health.value = value .. ' ' .. percentage ? |
| 20:57.07 | Industrial | oh, you'd have to make a new fontstring |
| 20:57.18 | Industrial | and update that in the postupdatehealth |
| 20:57.19 | cogumel0 | yeah, they are in different locations :) |
| 20:57.29 | cogumel0 | a new fontstring? how do you mean? |
| 20:58.52 | Industrial | at line 450 in slim_core.lua you can see the self.Health.value being made |
| 20:59.43 | cogumel0 | ahh, right |
| 20:59.45 | cogumel0 | thx :) |
| 21:03.55 | Ackis | Fisker: where do you live? aside from under a bridge |
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| 21:18.04 | Industrial | oo nice, 2.7MiB/s from battle.net |
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| 21:30.40 | Dagmar | Oh lovely... NOW Verisign sends out an advisory about Adobe Reader being exploited |
| 21:31.17 | Dagmar | Hasn't pretty much everyone in this channel seen a mysterious "813.pdf" attempting to be downloaded when you hit J. Random Website by now?> |
| 21:31.32 | ScytheBlade1 | no? |
| 21:31.38 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 21:31.41 | Dagmar | You must be using IE I guess |
| 21:31.46 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 21:31.46 | ScytheBlade1 | no? |
| 21:31.51 | Dagmar | Weird |
| 21:31.53 | Arrowmaster | but i dont have adobe reader installed |
| 21:32.05 | tekkub | reader blows a fat one |
| 21:32.13 | tekkub | it used to be good, back in like version 3 |
| 21:32.16 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: That's one of the options I recommend actually |
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| 21:32.26 | tekkub | but adobe can't just let a good program be |
| 21:32.30 | Dagmar | I've even had it crop up on wikia |
| 21:32.31 | tekkub | creature feep! |
| 21:32.33 | Arrowmaster | i have foxit reader or whatever it is installed |
| 21:33.15 | Lunessa | Bah, I use Adobe Reader, and I patch it constantly. I deal in PDF files here all the time. |
| 21:33.22 | Dagmar | I should flip full logging back on on my squid so I can send nastygrams to ad banner hosting companies |
| 21:33.28 | Dagmar | ...or just f**king blacklist them permanently |
| 21:34.54 | Arrowmaster | you know thats a good idea, get major companys to firewall the ad banner hosts due to their lax security until they fix their shit |
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| 21:35.20 | Dagmar | Personally I think the banner ad companies should be subject to class action lawsuits on behalf of the bad actors they take files from |
| 21:35.33 | Dagmar | That would make them start looking at WTF their advertisers are sending them |
| 21:35.55 | Dagmar | ...instead of just trafficking in malware while claiming "WE KNO NOFING!" |
| 21:36.33 | alestane | I'm pretty sure their terms of service require that their submitters indemnify them from all liability arising from serving any content provided by said submitters. |
| 21:36.47 | Dagmar | YEah and that needs to stop |
| 21:37.08 | Dagmar | It's not something that will hold up to a determined suit in the first place |
| 21:37.19 | vithos | prefers Sumatra PDF |
| 21:37.27 | Dagmar | ...being that the offending content violates the law, they can't legally dodge it so easily |
| 21:37.28 | Arrowmaster | unless you get a judge thats pissed off at them too |
| 21:37.34 | alestane | Well, the person who posted the content is fully liable. *In Theory*, that means you can still go after the person who did something nasty in the first place. |
| 21:37.44 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Yes, because old people never have problems with malware |
| 21:37.56 | Dagmar | The right judge might try to get someone hanged |
| 21:38.35 | Dagmar | alestane: At best they can protect themselves for being sued by their customers |
| 21:38.53 | Dagmar | You really can't draft an agreement that says much beyond "If we get sued you have to pay for it" |
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| 21:40.13 | Dagmar | The advertiser doesn't have the power to do a hold harmless kind of anything |
| 21:40.13 | Dagmar | Otherwise I could draft such an agreement with my next-door neighbor, go rob a bank, and be off scott-free. |
| 21:41.27 | alestane | This sig is win: |
| 21:41.28 | alestane | "There are 10 bad guys between you and the object: |
| 21:41.28 | alestane | "Rogues plan the best route to sneak in and grab the object. |
| 21:41.28 | alestane | "Mages icelock and blink. |
| 21:41.29 | alestane | "Warriors count 10 people who have to die" |
| 21:42.23 | Dagmar | "Hunters send in the monkey and go have a smoke." |
| 21:42.55 | Lunessa | "Warlocks just take 10 souls and the object." |
| 21:44.18 | theorbtwo | Death knights offer them nice blankets? |
| 21:45.27 | Ackis | strolls into the conversation late and PDF's Dagmar's face |
| 21:46.20 | Dagmar | Dude I just get pissed about seeing "0-day" from a vendor for something that people have known about for a few weeks |
| 21:47.02 | Arrowmaster | 0-day doesnt mean what it used to anymore |
| 21:47.02 | Dagmar | "Exploit of 0-day Vulnerability in Adobe Acrobat and Reader - Action Recommended" right there in the subject line, and it's a lie. |
| 21:47.08 | foxlit | -2-day! |
| 21:47.27 | Ackis | realistic reaction obtained: Ackis 1, Dagmar 0 |
| 21:47.51 | Arrowmaster | its been turned into another media hype word |
| 21:47.58 | Dagmar | Presentations given at hacker cons: Dagmar: 3, Ackis: 0 |
| 21:48.30 | Ackis | actually it'd be Dagmar 3, Ackis 1 :( |
| 21:48.34 | Dagmar | Just because Phelps says gays are the devil's playmates doesn't mean they are |
| 21:48.53 | Dagmar | Morons in the media misusing "0-day" doesn't change it's name |
| 21:48.56 | Dagmar | It just shows they're idiots |
| 21:49.00 | Ackis | yes it does |
| 21:49.04 | Dagmar | I really expected better from Verisign tho |
| 21:49.47 | Arrowmaster | its verisign, they are the evil of evil because they are responsible for networksolutions |
| 21:49.53 | Industrial | plays through the starcraft singleplayer again |
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| 21:51.21 | Dagmar | By calling it "0-day" they imply that no one should blame Adobe because "omg no one knew!" which is a crock |
| 21:51.53 | Ackis | meh a lot of that stuff is rubish, the stuff that kept me up at night when I was in IS was the stuff I didn't know about |
| 21:54.06 | Kalroth | http://regex.info/blog/lua/sha1 nice Lua trashtalking going on here! |
| 21:57.28 | foxlit | The... ahem... individual... decided he wanted to emulate bit operations using bit tables rather than math. |
| 21:58.05 | Kalroth | If Lua was a proper language then that'd be np! |
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| 22:01.15 | Kraps | whats the best way to destroy a credit card? |
| 22:01.25 | Arrowmaster | fire |
| 22:01.25 | drfuzzykins | scissors |
| 22:01.46 | alestane | I use a crusscut shredder. |
| 22:01.51 | alestane | cross*cut. |
| 22:02.18 | Arrowmaster | Kalroth: ive seen that page before while looking for a sha1 in lua lib |
| 22:02.18 | Lunessa | Then I burn the bits. |
| 22:02.38 | Arrowmaster | the guy is a moron because hes blaming lua when he should be blaming adobe |
| 22:03.11 | Dagmar | I've got a degausser here that'll make hard drives dance if you don't put both hands on them |
| 22:03.16 | Dagmar | It'll wipe credit cards REAL good |
| 22:03.41 | Lunessa | but as long as the numbers on the card are human-readable... |
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| 22:08.26 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_072309_003659.jpg :D |
| 22:10.19 | Fisker | man |
| 22:10.23 | Fisker | i hate bionic commando so much |
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| 22:11.13 | NeoTron | why? |
| 22:12.14 | Fisker | The first experience you get is trying to figure out which mappings are which |
| 22:12.30 | Fisker | Because they didn't want to spend a few minutes changing the gamepad layout to a keyboard layout |
| 22:12.53 | Fisker | So it tells you to use the d-pad, the bumpers, etc. on a gamepad |
| 22:12.57 | Fisker | but i'm using a freaking keyboard |
| 22:13.04 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 22:13.34 | NeoTron | lazy |
| 22:13.57 | Fisker | can't even screenshot it for some reason |
| 22:14.12 | NeoTron | the JPRG I played on the PC had the same issue |
| 22:14.24 | NeoTron | it defaulted to "Gamepad" for keyboard hints and such |
| 22:14.29 | NeoTron | but it was a configurable option |
| 22:15.38 | Fisker | not here |
| 22:16.10 | Fisker | But it's one of those small seemingly irrelevant details that makes a game go from a buy to a delete |
| 22:17.40 | foxlit | SC doesn't understand my F10 key :/ |
| 22:19.06 | alestane | It doesn't understand mine if I'm in windowed mode. |
| 22:19.19 | alestane | Since F10 means something to Aqua. |
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| 22:19.50 | foxlit | Just ordinary full-screen. Hurray for LALT-M, I guess. |
| 22:19.56 | foxlit | (RALT-M doesn't work. Fun.) |
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| 22:21.01 | NightHawkTheSane | http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/07/22/today-in-uncomfortable-turtle-porn |
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| 22:33.35 | Lunessa | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534415,00.html - this makes the news? |
| 22:35.19 | Dagmar | Quick! Vandalize the wikipedia entry on chihuahuas to say that they cause the vapors |
| 22:36.07 | Dagmar | Actually, I'm going to call my mom and see about getting some pictures of her four hairy little lunatics. |
| 22:36.17 | Dagmar | SURELY wikipedia can have a more absurd picture than http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Killer_Chihuahua.jpg |
| 22:38.02 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar, you mean she has 4 other hariry lunatics besides you? |
| 22:38.14 | Dagmar | I'm not even all that hairy |
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| 22:38.35 | Dagmar | I find it amusing that the caption is "showing signs of aggression" |
| 22:38.42 | Adys | __builtins__.all() Return True if bool(x) is True for all values x in the iterable. |
| 22:38.47 | Adys | WHY dont people tell me that |
| 22:38.50 | Dagmar | If you've ever seen it in person, you will have a hard time construing it as threatening |
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| 22:42.00 | Lunessa | Dagmar: At least your mom doesn't have to flea dip you? |
| 22:42.21 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQX-y7mtFVg#t=1m10s |
| 22:44.12 | mikma | torhal|away: screw you and all of your mates that code LibQTip! http://wowinterface.com/portal_admin.php?id=483&a=viewbugreport&bugid=5968 |
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| 22:45.34 | dardack | question can i in a macro have it spam the RW area without it being a /rw? |
| 22:45.37 | dardack | just so i can see it |
| 22:45.48 | dardack | cause i want a /in etc. do |
| 22:45.52 | Dagmar | Lunessa: You don't flea-dip chihuahua's. You take them to the golf course and use the ball-washer |
| 22:46.13 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I thought you could just hold them out the window in the rain? |
| 22:46.30 | Dagmar | You'd have to wave some of them around just to catch some raindrops |
| 22:46.48 | Dagmar | Mom has two minis, one "normal" and one that was supposed to be a mix of the two but the breeder was a damn liar |
| 22:47.17 | alestane | dardack: Yes you can. |
| 22:47.26 | Dagmar | When you mix a mini chihuahua and a miniature pinscher, you get a two-and-a-half-foot tall chihuahua |
| 22:47.34 | dardack | alestane: how? |
| 22:47.44 | alestane | You would ask me that. |
| 22:47.55 | dardack | cause i'm testing a new hybrid blood with perma ghoul/UB instead of DRW |
| 22:48.07 | dardack | and when i hit Unholy Blight i want it to say spam me in 5 seconds UB runs out |
| 22:48.08 | Lunessa | Dagmar: One of my exs had a micro chihuahua - a tea cup I think - and the thing was so small I was afraid it would vanish and be squashed and never seen again. |
| 22:48.13 | Dagmar | Lunessa: They're generally sweet, but not very bright. Put two of them in the same chair and menace them, they'll growl and then bite each other. |
| 22:48.20 | dardack | i've added things into MSBT but it only works when it's gone |
| 22:48.28 | dardack | not giving me a 5 second warning |
| 22:48.34 | Lunessa | No room in that head for any grey matter |
| 22:48.49 | Dagmar | It's like there's just enough room in that little head to manage to remember that it's being threatened and shoud bite, um, someone |
| 22:48.59 | dardack | alestane: yes i would ask, heh i've tried to figure it out myself before asking |
| 22:49.03 | dardack | but nothing i do seems to work |
| 22:50.14 | Dagmar | Lunessa: One got loose from it's owner at the coffee house I frequent. I managed to catch it for her and she was worried the dog might bite me. It was pretty much clinging to the side of my hand by it's teeth for all it was worth when I handed it back to her. |
| 22:50.29 | alestane | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.31 | Lunessa | Dagmar: We used to refer to some dogs as having a 2-byte stack. Any new data pushed old data off, and the data size was tiny. |
| 22:50.38 | Dagmar | Sounds about right |
| 22:54.17 | Kraps | # The three bankers in Stormwind are named after the lead female actor in the movie "Grease" â Olivia Newton John. |
| 22:54.19 | Kraps | # The male bankers in Ironforge are named for the legendary Ringling Brothers Barnum & Bailey Circus, while Cirque du Soleil provides the name of the female banker. |
| 22:54.27 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.36 | alestane | You never noticed before? |
| 22:54.48 | Dagmar | Whoa. Talk about a text immunity |
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| 22:55.41 | dardack | alestane that won't go to whole raid right? |
| 22:55.57 | alestane | dardack: No, it doesn't send a chatmessage. |
| 22:56.07 | dardack | ok cool thanks incorporating now |
| 22:56.24 | alestane | That's basically the code used to display the /rw messages you receive. |
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| 22:56.42 | mikma | ~wowalert |
| 22:56.43 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 22:57.22 | Lunessa | I never liked Lucy Lawless until this image - http://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/07/7-women-who-will-rock-comic-con/ |
| 23:05.23 | alestane | It is quite a picture. |
| 23:06.35 | Shadowed | ~addonkit |
| 23:06.36 | purl | Located at http://tinyurl.com/addonkit the addonkit is "The World of Warcraft User Interface Customization tool that allows users to tweak and customize the User Interface." |
| 23:07.02 | NightHawkTheSane | ... wow, that IS quite a picture |
| 23:08.54 | Lunessa | Suddenly I had a whole new appreciation for her. |
| 23:09.11 | Lunessa | And on that note, I'm out for the day. Ciao. |
| 23:09.11 | alestane | The straight-black-bangs look doesn't flatter her face, really, and the very high hip on that robe doesn't hurt. |
| 23:10.16 | Arrowmaster | i dont think that robe has a hip |
| 23:10.32 | Adys | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/18704853136-i-cant-get-perma-banned.html |
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| 23:13.02 | dardack | alestane: thanks got my UB script to warn me when 5 seconds are left |
| 23:13.04 | dardack | appreciate it |
| 23:14.10 | WobWork | .:Dagmar:. When you mix a mini chihuahua and a miniature pinscher, you get a two-and-a-half-foot tall chihuahua |
| 23:14.20 | WobWork | It's like... ROBODOG |
| 23:16.50 | Kraps | Adys: what.the.hell |
| 23:22.21 | alestane | Arrowmaster: The term "robe" may overdignify what is basically a carefully draped bedsheet. |
| 23:22.37 | Wobin | indeed |
| 23:22.44 | Wobin | I was thinking "This is more a wrap, than a robe" |
| 23:23.13 | Wobin | alestane: either she's got acres and acres of tracts of land... or that's a very small bed. |
| 23:24.07 | Wobin | although, a still picture probably doesn't do her justice. |
| 23:24.13 | Stanzilla | Adys: is the blue tracker your code btw? |
| 23:24.17 | Wobin | I'd want to see how she moves in an outfit like that |
| 23:24.36 | Wobin | cause if she walks like Xena did, it may not be a good look =P |
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| 23:26.07 | Adys | Stanzilla: no |
| 23:26.10 | Adys | its in C# |
| 23:26.15 | Adys | i'd.. never do that |
| 23:26.18 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 23:26.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: may not be a good look for.. WHO? :P |
| 23:26.59 | Wobin | Ms Lawless |
| 23:27.12 | Wobin | http://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/07/7-women-who-will-rock-comic-con/ |
| 23:27.37 | Stanzilla | Adys: just noticed that the live from mmoc links in the box are broken |
| 23:28.03 | Adys | on Chrome |
| 23:28.04 | Adys | I know ya |
| 23:28.15 | Adys | fuck, reminds me I need to report that upstram |
| 23:28.16 | Adys | +e |
| 23:28.24 | Adys | you're on windows? |
| 23:28.44 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 23:28.46 | Stanzilla | and opera |
| 23:28.47 | Stanzilla | (10) |
| 23:29.03 | mikma | torhal|away: wake up |
| 23:29.06 | Adys | what? |
| 23:29.13 | Adys | So this is on opera or chrome? |
| 23:29.20 | Stanzilla | Opera 10 on Windows |
| 23:29.27 | Adys | ok hm |
| 23:29.38 | Adys | Ill have a look might just be intended |
| 23:29.41 | Adys | what are the links? |
| 23:29.51 | Adys | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/(::Link::) ? |
| 23:29.52 | Stanzilla | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/(::Link::) |
| 23:29.55 | Adys | k |
| 23:29.57 | Adys | thanks |
| 23:30.01 | Stanzilla | np |
| 23:30.10 | Wobin | hm |
| 23:30.19 | Wobin | $50 for the Virtual Blizzcon ticket |
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| 23:31.13 | Wobin | since the majority of blizzcon will be on while I am asleep, I don't see this as a good investment |
| 23:31.33 | mikma | kaelten: or you, any knowledge of LibQTip? |
| 23:31.34 | Adys | buy it, resell the murloc, make $300 |
| 23:31.52 | Thunder_Child | Adys, why? when anyone can get it for $0 |
| 23:31.55 | Thunder_Child | 40* |
| 23:32.15 | Adys | Tyrael's Hilt sells for almost $1000 today |
| 23:32.35 | Thunder_Child | not quite the same |
| 23:32.37 | Kaelten | mikma: I helped in the first few rounds of design and prototyping |
| 23:32.39 | Arrowmaster | because you could only get tyrael's hilt by actually going to that event |
| 23:32.43 | Kaelten | Torhal would be the one to ask |
| 23:32.53 | Arrowmaster | so there was a limited ammount of them |
| 23:32.55 | mikma | kaelten: so basicly you have no idea how the SetCellScript -stuff works |
| 23:33.05 | Kaelten | I'd have to look at the code :) |
| 23:33.16 | Wobin | onmousedown onmouseup etc etc |
| 23:33.44 | Arrowmaster | there is an unlimited ammount of sc2 murlocs because there is an unlimited amount of online streaming tickets for sale |
| 23:33.48 | Zhinjio | I need to convert over to using the setcellscript stuff now |
| 23:34.08 | mikma | wobin: have you had a look at the *latest* LibQTip? :) |
| 23:34.13 | Wobin | yeah |
| 23:34.36 | mikma | the one with SetCellScript and other stuff from LibQTipClick? |
| 23:34.39 | Wobin | by latest do you mean later than last night? |
| 23:34.54 | mikma | yeah. i have no idea how the arg works with SetCellScript :O |
| 23:34.56 | Wobin | yeh, LQTC got depreciated |
| 23:35.39 | mikma | I KNOW |
| 23:35.40 | mikma | that's the problem |
| 23:35.50 | Wobin | http://www.wowace.com/addons/libqtip-1-0/pages/api-reference/#w-set-cell-script-line-num-col-num-script-func-arg |
| 23:36.01 | mikma | doesn't help much with my problem |
| 23:36.04 | mikma | i've checked that one |
| 23:36.11 | Wobin | I assume arg passes in to the script function |
| 23:37.27 | mikma | well have you tested it? |
| 23:37.58 | mikma | tooltip:SetCellScript(y, 2, "OnMouseUp", RemoveNote, v) -- doesn't work |
| 23:38.05 | mikma | tooltip:SetCellScript(y, 3, "OnMouseUp", {func = PasteNote, arg1 = v}) -- doesn't work |
| 23:41.58 | mikma | oh, and this last line was the one that worked with LibQTipClick |
| 23:42.40 | tekkub | and this is why I hate vent |
| 23:42.46 | tekkub | *babble babble nerd nerd nerd* |
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