| 00:01.12 | danherdegen | Anyone have any ideas? |
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| 00:16.53 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18698000513&sid=1 |
| 00:16.57 | ScytheBlade1 | wow people are dumb |
| 00:19.45 | Iriel | danherdegen: My guess is you're callingit too early, perhaps it needs to wait until PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 00:20.25 | danherdegen | That could be, How would I tell it to wait till that event is called? |
| 00:21.03 | Iriel | You'd create a frame, use frame:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD") |
| 00:21.29 | Iriel | then use frame:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) if (event == "PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD") then MachinEmote() end end); |
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| 00:29.23 | Wobin | aaaaah |
| 00:29.31 | Wobin | http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,25785308-13762,00.html |
| 00:42.54 | Cairenn | :( |
| 00:43.01 | Cairenn | poor little puppy :( |
| 00:43.40 | ScytheBlade1 | what the |
| 00:43.57 | Shirik | Do consumer-level tape drives still exist? |
| 00:49.36 | Iriel | You mean audio or DAT or data? |
| 00:52.06 | Kraps | ScytheBlade1: liek omg we smoked dat blunt and it waz sooooo funny |
| 00:52.37 | Shirik | I mean data, Iriel |
| 00:52.39 | Shirik | specifically, pictures |
| 00:52.58 | Iriel | I can't imagine they would, they had awful capacities, poor response times, and expensive media |
| 00:53.02 | Shirik | I'm looking for something permanent higher than a DVD |
| 00:53.22 | Iriel | Multiple DVD's ? 8-) |
| 00:53.28 | Shirik | according to wikipedia, modern tape drives are capable of hitting speeds comparable to a 10krpm hdd when its buffer can remain full |
| 00:53.34 | Shirik | i.e., if you're copying a huge amount of data |
| 00:53.43 | Iriel | That's not going to be a consumer device tho |
| 00:53.45 | Iriel | is it? |
| 00:53.52 | Shirik | I don't know |
| 00:53.57 | Shirik | hence my question |
| 00:54.12 | ScytheBlade1 | The last time I saw a tape drive, it was rack mounted |
| 00:55.44 | Shirik | lua> 23*1024/60/60 |
| 00:55.45 | lua_bot | Shirik: 6.5422222222222 |
| 00:56.09 | Shirik | 6.54MB/sec for this $500 external USB drive |
| 00:56.18 | ScytheBlade1 | USB sucks |
| 00:56.21 | Shirik | yeah |
| 00:56.36 | Shirik | really strange though |
| 00:56.41 | Shirik | they say "23GB/hr" |
| 00:56.44 | Shirik | instead of per second |
| 00:58.03 | Stanzilla | eSATA? |
| 00:58.13 | Shirik | well anyway, Iriel, I was just thinking that multiple DVDs will become cumbersome |
| 00:58.31 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuNxHqwazs&feature=related |
| 00:58.39 | ScytheBlade1 | bluray media is cheap-ish for backups, assuming you're backing up more than your pirated movie collection |
| 00:58.54 | Shirik | I already said pictures |
| 00:59.05 | ScytheBlade1 | $10/50GB disc online |
| 00:59.32 | Shirik | I'm looking at about 50GB/mo |
| 00:59.42 | ScytheBlade1 | A disc a month isn't too bad, I wouldn't think |
| 01:00.32 | Wobin | Kraps: 400 BABIES |
| 01:01.02 | Kraps | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG |
| 01:01.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Wobin: RAW MANERGY |
| 01:01.46 | Shirik | ok gotta go |
| 01:01.47 | Shirik | pz |
| 01:04.12 | kd3 | what is with the random spam of 'somebody you don't know is following you on twitter'? |
| 01:04.30 | kd3 | got like a half-dozen of those in the past 48 hours or so |
| 01:04.52 | Wobin | kd3: they're random junk accounts |
| 01:05.04 | kd3 | much like mine. I've made exactly one post |
| 01:05.11 | Wobin | just scan if they're posting anything worthwhile, then block them |
| 01:10.34 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Mq9HAE62Y&feature=popm00us05 |
| 01:29.31 | Iriel | Shirik: You're now facing the issue we all face with high end digital imaging |
| 01:29.39 | Iriel | Shirik: I was only today looking at Amazon S3 |
| 01:29.49 | Iriel | Shirik: with that sort of thing in mind |
| 01:30.20 | Iriel | Shirik: But i'd also recommend being selective about what you keep -- "Keep everything" doesn't work so well when you can take 8GB of images on a single card |
| 01:33.05 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl4T26O0eq0&feature=player_embedded |
| 01:33.24 | Wobin | watch in full screen if you can |
| 01:37.31 | Wobin | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SqhhJb_P3Kk/SmEMxkFWi6I/AAAAAAAAIKM/6a0OOT2QCWA/s1600-h/Star+Wars+cast.jpg |
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| 01:56.03 | Mr_Rabies | note the lack of alec guinness |
| 01:56.23 | Wobin | But it has Yoda! |
| 01:56.27 | Mr_Rabies | (because he was too busy drinking and being generally bitter to pose for photos) |
| 01:59.08 | Wobin | My goodness, my Guinness! |
| 02:03.14 | Kraps | dont watch this at night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQd-a4bu-eI |
| 02:03.32 | Wobin | can't sleep? |
| 02:05.56 | Mr_Rabies | hahaha, kraps |
| 02:06.14 | Mr_Rabies | clowns don't scare me in the least so that was just hilarious |
| 02:07.01 | Kraps | clowns are freaky |
| 02:07.51 | Kraps | i cant relate to anyone in full masquerade that hides who they are |
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| 02:13.47 | Wobin | masquerade! |
| 02:13.51 | Wobin | paper faces on parade |
| 02:14.01 | Wobin | masquerade, let the world around, astound you |
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| 02:35.49 | DWSR | hey all |
| 02:36.05 | Corrodias | yo |
| 02:37.47 | DWSR | how's it going? |
| 02:40.47 | Corrodias | being as sexy as is possible among mankind |
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| 02:42.59 | dardack | anyone know if an addon already exists that let's a dk know when their raise ghoul timer is up? |
| 02:43.35 | DWSR | err... |
| 02:43.48 | DWSR | I think Forte's Cooldown timer or any cooldown timer would do that. |
| 02:43.51 | dardack | trying dps for first time every (4.3k in 10/25 man os so not bad for first time) and i've added knight of the dead as my 2 free points and I guess the ghoul does decent dps ~1k from what i read for 1 min than a 1.5 min CD |
| 02:43.57 | dardack | ok |
| 02:44.15 | dardack | oh and i tried to put quartz timers over my portrait but they are in the background from the Unit frames |
| 02:44.27 | dardack | so doesn't work well, i like pitbull just wish the castbar could replace portrait while casting |
| 02:44.41 | DWSR | You need to change the strata of either PB or Quartz. |
| 02:44.49 | DWSR | One of them has the option to, I believe quartz does. |
| 02:45.30 | dardack | strata that's the term i was trying to figure out |
| 02:45.35 | dardack | i looked in the options couldn't find it |
| 02:45.37 | dardack | i'll keep looking |
| 02:45.44 | DWSR | It's essentially the Z-order of the frames. |
| 02:45.50 | dardack | i figured that |
| 02:45.56 | DWSR | But yeah, pretty sure that Quartz can do frame strata. |
| 02:45.58 | dardack | i've seen it before just couln't remember exact name |
| 02:46.09 | dardack | i'll keep poking around |
| 02:48.03 | dardack | i see forte has a casting module |
| 02:50.15 | Dagmar | dardack: PowerAuras will do what you want |
| 02:50.22 | Dagmar | If I didn't have it I'd never remember to cast epic bugs |
| 02:50.39 | dardack | forte seems nice working now for the ghoul |
| 02:50.44 | dardack | but i can't find strata in quartz yet |
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| 02:54.07 | Shirik | Iriel: Amazon S3 looks actually pretty decent. Though certainly not something I'd be going for right away. |
| 02:54.27 | Dagmar | The only problem I have with PA is that I've yet to figure out how to get it to watch tournament mount buffs |
| 02:54.29 | Shirik | $.15/GB is nice |
| 02:54.48 | Dagmar | ...although I've probably only spent about a half hour looking at the problem |
| 02:56.12 | Shirik | dardack: It really shouldn't let you change frame strata |
| 02:56.18 | Shirik | however, it may let you change its level |
| 02:56.45 | dardack | na couldn't find it hacked the lua |
| 02:56.51 | dardack | now it works the way i want |
| 02:57.28 | End | leuitenant(sp?) |
| 02:57.28 | batbot | End, nothing found. |
| 02:57.32 | End | dammit |
| 02:57.41 | Dagmar | lieut... |
| 02:57.48 | End | fine! |
| 02:57.50 | Shirik | you really shouldn't use frame strata for precisely controlling Z order |
| 02:57.53 | End | although thanks |
| 02:58.07 | Shirik | it's kinda like the big box of junk you order first |
| 02:58.15 | Shirik | and then level is the ordering within that box |
| 02:58.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1307799&cid=28749613 |
| 02:59.28 | Shirik | why does everyone keep telling me to get hard drives |
| 02:59.42 | Shirik | that is a horrible permanent storage solution |
| 02:59.52 | ScytheBlade1 | not compared to anything else |
| 03:00.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I also offered you a pretty cheap solution (BD!) |
| 03:00.16 | Shirik | bd? |
| 03:00.21 | ScytheBlade1 | bluray discs |
| 03:00.22 | dardack | Shirik: yea i didn't like it that much, sticking with the pitbull built in cast bar, just don't like how it's implemented |
| 03:00.35 | Shirik | bluray discs would be about the same as Amazon |
| 03:00.53 | ScytheBlade1 | maybe, it really depends on how you use S3 |
| 03:01.11 | Shirik | It is highly likely that if I were to use it, it would be a "I stick it there and never touch it again" |
| 03:01.49 | Shirik | thus, the whole "read it 10x" is completely off of my use case |
| 03:01.56 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822186124 |
| 03:01.58 | ScytheBlade1 | eSATA |
| 03:02.32 | ScytheBlade1 | although this http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150414%201035920386&name=USB%202.0%20%2f%20eSATA |
| 03:03.03 | ScytheBlade1 | would probably give you better options/prices |
| 03:03.14 | Shirik | I swear to god |
| 03:03.23 | Shirik | if you link me another hard drive |
| 03:03.26 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 03:03.32 | ScytheBlade1 | That was the first one I ever did |
| 03:03.47 | Shirik | I'm just sick of everyone saying "hard drive hard drive" |
| 03:03.53 | Shirik | without thinking of the #1 problem of hard drives |
| 03:03.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Well they're probably saying that for a reason :P |
| 03:03.58 | Shirik | they weren't made to never be powered on |
| 03:04.00 | Shirik | no |
| 03:04.02 | Dagmar | We could go back to calling them "fixed disks" if you like |
| 03:04.11 | Shirik | they're saying that because they aren't familiar with them being a permanent solution |
| 03:04.17 | Shirik | they're familiar with them being everyday use |
| 03:05.14 | Shirik | welcome to the wonderful world of technology |
| 03:05.25 | Shirik | where everyone thinks they know everything because of the way we've trivialized it |
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| 03:06.41 | Shirik | and then you get people like kd3|hate`net |
| 03:06.42 | Dagmar | I would say it's more a matter of them being told they're mommy's special little flower too often |
| 03:06.59 | Shirik | whom have crappy internet because of those types of people |
| 03:07.08 | kd3 | meh, that one was my fault |
| 03:07.11 | kd3 | >.> |
| 03:07.12 | Shirik | shh |
| 03:07.16 | Shirik | stop ruining my argument |
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| 03:09.04 | DWSR | shirik |
| 03:09.11 | DWSR | Joo get my PM? |
| 03:09.25 | Shirik | yes but haven't had a chance to answer it |
| 03:09.33 | Shirik | or act on it |
| 03:17.24 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Shirik |
| 03:17.25 | purl | Shirik, you Fail! |
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| 03:32.42 | Shirik | fufu |
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| 03:57.12 | Thunder_Child | fufu yourself |
| 04:09.21 | Cairenn | Shirik: I have another suggestion for you, and I promise it isn't another hard drive! http://tiny.cc/0cNUh |
| 04:09.51 | Shirik | I still have some of those |
| 04:10.06 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 04:14.07 | kd3 | an 8"? geez... haven't seen one of those in over a decade. I still have some 5-1/4"s in my closet |
| 04:15.52 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:18.52 | kd3 | lmfao |
| 04:36.53 | Wobin | haha http://bakingbites.com/2007/09/car-baked-chocolate-chip-cookies-step-by-step/ |
| 04:37.18 | Thunder_Child | fail cookies |
| 04:37.23 | Wobin | it has the added bonus that your car will then smell of cookies for ages =) |
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| 04:38.32 | bluspacecow | anywhere know a good bookmark link checked for OS X ? One that checks if that URL is still valid ? |
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| 05:06.13 | NightHawkTheSane | "We'd be rich, but dangerously unstable." "... Like.. paris hilton?" hah. |
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| 05:12.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I have to say I'm really really really impressed with Chrome's javascript engine now |
| 05:12.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Doing browser based RSA signature checking, every 1.5 secs |
| 05:13.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Firefox pegs the CPU and jumps 80MB in RAM usage |
| 05:13.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Safari just pegs the CPU and looks at me funny |
| 05:13.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Chrome maxes out at ~10% CPU and 18MB total usage for that process |
| 05:13.43 | Wobin | It works hard for the money =) |
| 05:14.08 | ScytheBlade1 | This is a VM running with hardware virt extensions on an i7 |
| 05:14.13 | ScytheBlade1 | So 10% CPU is still quite a bit |
| 05:14.19 | ScytheBlade1 | But as compared to pegging the CPU, wow |
| 05:15.25 | Shirik | (22:13:11) (ScytheBlade1) Safari just pegs the CPU and looks at me funny |
| 05:15.30 | Shirik | This is by design |
| 05:15.48 | bluspacecow | what is "pegs the cpu" |
| 05:16.06 | ScytheBlade1 | 99% CPU utilization |
| 05:16.23 | ScytheBlade1 | It is eating enough CPU power than text input misses keystrokes |
| 05:16.26 | Shirik | Triage -> Dropped. Behavior by design. ATR |
| 05:16.39 | bluspacecow | ouched |
| 05:21.48 | Shirik | sigh |
| 05:21.51 | Shirik | I'm going to have to drop grid at this rate |
| 05:22.08 | Thunder_Child | how is that? |
| 05:22.26 | Shirik | I always DC on thorim |
| 05:22.34 | Shirik | and grid has had this bug in it forever |
| 05:22.36 | Thunder_Child | i do some times |
| 05:22.38 | Shirik | which I've reported about 6 months ago |
| 05:22.44 | Shirik | where it won't load on login if you're in combat |
| 05:22.46 | Thunder_Child | and so do some others in my guild |
| 05:22.55 | Thunder_Child | is that why we DC? |
| 05:22.58 | Shirik | so I am effectively worthless |
| 05:22.59 | Shirik | no |
| 05:23.00 | Shirik | but |
| 05:23.02 | Shirik | if I have no UI |
| 05:23.06 | Shirik | wtf am I going to heal |
| 05:23.11 | Thunder_Child | ah, a reload usualy fixes it |
| 05:23.18 | Shirik | only if I leave combat |
| 05:23.28 | Thunder_Child | sometimes i need to jump out of the fame then back in |
| 05:23.44 | Thunder_Child | just make sure they CC one of the mobs if someone DC's |
| 05:23.48 | Thunder_Child | that what we do |
| 05:24.19 | Shirik | you would have to MC them |
| 05:24.30 | Shirik | and when I'm the only priest, that doesn't work too well |
| 05:24.32 | Thunder_Child | sheep, MC they both work |
| 05:24.35 | Shirik | no |
| 05:24.38 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 05:24.39 | Shirik | because sheep keeps you in combat |
| 05:24.44 | Shirik | you have to leave combat |
| 05:24.50 | Thunder_Child | but you can still exit the game and come back in |
| 05:24.53 | Shirik | sure |
| 05:24.55 | Thunder_Child | that WILL fix it |
| 05:24.59 | Shirik | but I get back in and I'm still worthless |
| 05:25.04 | Shirik | omg, I promise it won't fix it |
| 05:25.09 | Shirik | I've had this problem for months now |
| 05:25.09 | Thunder_Child | i do it all the time |
| 05:25.13 | Thunder_Child | same here |
| 05:25.28 | Shirik | what is your version |
| 05:25.36 | Thunder_Child | newest |
| 05:25.43 | Thunder_Child | i keep it auto updated |
| 05:25.58 | Thunder_Child | one sec |
| 05:26.16 | Thunder_Child | 1.30100.2009041601 |
| 05:26.27 | Shirik | it hasn't been updated in forever |
| 05:26.40 | Shirik | yeah same |
| 05:26.53 | Thunder_Child | well i can exit the game and come back in and it works |
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| 05:39.05 | bluspacecow | brrr dropped 3 degrees :( |
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| 05:44.40 | kd3 | grr |
| 05:46.31 | kd3 | and hm... it's been 40 years since we first stepped on the moon |
| 05:46.34 | kd3 | wtb a return trip |
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| 06:00.08 | Shirik | why |
| 06:00.12 | Shirik | who cares |
| 06:00.15 | Shirik | it's the moon |
| 06:00.16 | Shirik | yay |
| 06:00.22 | Shirik | it's a barren wasteland |
| 06:00.23 | Shirik | with holes |
| 06:00.31 | tekkub | mmmm holes |
| 06:02.47 | Shirik | tekkub is the reason to go to the moon |
| 06:02.50 | Shirik | he likes them holes |
| 06:02.58 | tekkub | I can get holes here |
| 06:03.02 | tekkub | furrier ones at that |
| 06:03.15 | Shirik | but they are bigger on the moon |
| 06:03.38 | Wobin | they just weigh less |
| 06:03.39 | Thunder_Child | thats what you think |
| 06:04.32 | Shirik | how can a hole be furry |
| 06:04.41 | Shirik | isn't a hole literally the absence of something? |
| 06:04.48 | Thunder_Child | do you really need to ask that? |
| 06:04.58 | Shirik | so if a hole is furry, then it is by definition not a hole |
| 06:05.19 | Shirik | ok I'll shut up |
| 06:05.23 | Thunder_Child | well the edges of a hole are still part of the hole |
| 06:05.27 | Spellbinder | what if the hole is furry on the outside? |
| 06:05.29 | Thunder_Child | since they define it |
| 06:05.29 | Shirik | I don't think so |
| 06:05.35 | Wobin | it's like a net |
| 06:05.42 | Wobin | holes tied together by string |
| 06:05.51 | Shirik | but the net is not part of the hole |
| 06:06.06 | Shirik | nor is a net simply a collection of holes |
| 06:06.09 | Wobin | ~define hole |
| 06:06.10 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 06:06.11 | Spellbinder | what if the hole is in a fur? |
| 06:06.15 | Wobin | ~dict hole |
| 06:06.21 | Shirik | then it is a hole surrounded by fur |
| 06:06.44 | Wobin | well, it won't be unoccupied for long if Tekk is there =\ |
| 06:06.55 | Shirik | lolol |
| 06:07.26 | Shirik | tekkub, are you feral? |
| 06:07.34 | tekkub | only in bed |
| 06:07.35 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, one use of language is for communiaction of abstract thought, you understood his meaning. therefor, you sir, are wrong |
| 06:07.57 | Shirik | Does that excuse your misspelling of communication? |
| 06:08.03 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 06:08.06 | Thunder_Child | but it could |
| 06:08.10 | Wobin | and therefore |
| 06:08.13 | Shirik | so no, but yes |
| 06:08.22 | Shirik | I love philosophy |
| 06:08.25 | Wobin | well, he was wrong in that statement in spelling |
| 06:08.25 | Shirik | you can never be wrong |
| 06:08.33 | Wobin | but it doesn't make him incorrect in subject =) |
| 06:09.05 | Spellbinder | a hole is philosophy? |
| 06:09.27 | Shirik | no, discussion of language as a medium for communication of abstract thoughts |
| 06:09.37 | Wobin | it is both defined by it's surroundings and lack of actual substance =P |
| 06:09.47 | Spellbinder | hehe |
| 06:09.48 | Shirik | and thus the fact that language doesn't have to be technically correct so long as it correctly acts as such a medium |
| 06:10.00 | Shirik | which, point given to Thunder_Child, does validate tekkub's statement |
| 06:10.15 | Shirik | that while no dictionary would indicate his statement was meaningful, I totally understood his statement |
| 06:10.33 | Wobin | shirik: Nah, it just means you've been hanging around Tekkub too long =) |
| 06:10.37 | Shirik | lol |
| 06:10.47 | Shirik | but does that invalidate my statement |
| 06:10.47 | Shirik | ? |
| 06:10.57 | Spellbinder | as long there is communication it doesn't matter if the language is incirrect |
| 06:11.05 | Wobin | indeed not, my kind sir |
| 06:11.08 | Shirik | If I've "been hanging around [him] too long" then it simply means my use of the language has evolved |
| 06:11.11 | tekkub | I did what now? |
| 06:11.31 | Shirik | Which is an interesting point - I never understood the purpose of dictionaries |
| 06:11.36 | Thunder_Child | you corrupted Shirik tekkub |
| 06:11.46 | Shirik | for example, one of my english teachers would always go off on everyone because they were using "fun" as an adjective |
| 06:11.47 | tekkub | bah, that's not news |
| 06:11.51 | Thunder_Child | to define a word and give proper spelling |
| 06:11.57 | Shirik | and sure enough, at the time, "fun" was not an adjective |
| 06:12.02 | Shirik | according to dictionaries |
| 06:12.07 | Shirik | but 80% of the world used it as such |
| 06:12.15 | tekkub | I had an english teacher that held "suck" at the same level of vulgarity as "fucksmudge" |
| 06:12.16 | Shirik | Does that make it wrong? Simply because some god of english decided it to be so? |
| 06:12.22 | Thunder_Child | screw it's 'proper' use, a dictionary at it's most base is a primer |
| 06:12.24 | tekkub | it was great fun telling her she sucked |
| 06:12.39 | Shirik | Who gets to decide what is "correct" anyway? |
| 06:12.53 | tekkub | the people that write the documentation |
| 06:13.03 | Shirik | For example, who was the moron that says you should put commas before quotation marks, even when it does not belong there? |
| 06:13.03 | tekkub | (dictionaries) |
| 06:13.16 | tekkub | I never understood that shit |
| 06:13.19 | Shirik | i.e., is not part of the quotation |
| 06:13.23 | tekkub | I always do it "outside". |
| 06:13.33 | Shirik | I only do it when it is part of a prose sentence |
| 06:13.52 | Shirik | if I'm saying something that must be taken letter for letter, I will place the comma outside |
| 06:14.05 | Shirik | For example, if I say |
| 06:14.17 | Shirik | type "cmd", then push enter |
| 06:14.27 | ScytheBlade1 | so chrome impressed me to the point where I had an urge to write a bit more about it... http://aboveaverageurl.com/2009/07/google-chrome-and-things-we-pr.html if you care |
| 06:14.28 | Shirik | if I put the comma inside the quotes, it leaves the possibility that someone will type a comma |
| 06:14.32 | ScytheBlade1 | if not, oh well, I'm off to sleep! |
| 06:14.36 | tekkub | I take a quotation to be a "direct quote" kinda thing, and never add anything to it that's not in a [bracket] |
| 06:14.51 | Wobin | shirk: type "cmd," then push enter |
| 06:14.53 | Wobin | makes no sense though |
| 06:15.05 | Wobin | since the quotation marks are a deliniation, not an indicator of speech |
| 06:15.06 | Shirik | but that's how the english gods say it should be |
| 06:15.06 | tekkub | and Shirik, you shoulkd be typing `cmd` instead |
| 06:15.09 | tekkub | ^^ |
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| 06:15.23 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Haven't I been telling you this for a year? |
| 06:15.38 | Wobin | shirik: not so, your usage of the quotation marks are -not- for quotation =) So the rules do not apply |
| 06:15.59 | Shirik | I am willing to bet many copy editors would have a fit for that usage |
| 06:16.07 | Wobin | in reality, you'd want to typeface the 'cmd' in an entirely new line like a <code></code> block |
| 06:16.12 | Shirik | of course, if I had a richtext |
| 06:16.12 | Shirik | yes |
| 06:16.20 | Shirik | well not necessarly a new line |
| 06:16.24 | Shirik | but certainly a fixed width font |
| 06:16.51 | tekkub | code is inline, not block |
| 06:16.55 | tekkub | pre is block :) |
| 06:17.15 | tekkub | and in a lot of markups, `blah` will convert to <code>blah</code> |
| 06:17.25 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, code is a subset of language in general and is not required to conform to language standards |
| 06:17.47 | Shirik | tekkub: But he said new line |
| 06:17.56 | Shirik | I use <code> all the time in my javadocs, etc |
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| 06:20.09 | Shirik | Freedom is what you do with what's been done to you. |
| 06:20.09 | Shirik | -- Jean-Paul Sartre |
| 06:20.14 | Shirik | That is a really interesting quote |
| 06:20.24 | Shirik | fortune wins again |
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| 06:21.17 | Shirik | and then nevcairiel died |
| 06:21.26 | Shirik | and there was much celebration |
| 06:21.27 | nevcairiel | happens to the best of us |
| 06:22.04 | Shirik | tekkub never dies |
| 06:22.09 | Shirik | he's a druid |
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| 06:22.39 | nevcairiel | I'm a druid |
| 06:22.45 | Shirik | but he's a better one |
| 06:23.02 | nevcairiel | you mean with all the real fur? |
| 06:23.03 | Shirik | he fills holes |
| 06:23.08 | tekkub | rawr |
| 06:23.57 | krka | <3 todays xkcd |
| 06:24.42 | nevcairiel | haha indeed |
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| 06:29.15 | Shirik | lmao |
| 06:29.59 | Shirik | I like the alt text too |
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| 06:57.31 | Fisker | throws a grenade towards Shirik |
| 07:00.22 | Fisker | lol |
| 07:00.23 | Fisker | http://xkcd.com/ |
| 07:01.10 | Conexion | Awesome |
| 07:06.38 | Cairenn | Ackis: :) |
| 07:09.58 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:16.37 | Thunder_Child | whips Fisker with a mouse cord |
| 07:17.13 | Elkano | Cairenn, thanks for the topic last week :) |
| 07:17.23 | Cairenn | :) |
| 07:17.26 | Cairenn | you're welcome |
| 07:17.48 | Cairenn | hope you had a good one |
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| 07:18.43 | Elkano | yeah, had some delicious food cooked by my mum ^^ |
| 07:18.59 | Cairenn | always good :) |
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| 07:21.34 | Fisker | moans suggestively at Thunder_Child |
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| 07:32.19 | Fisker | destroys Thunder_Child |
| 07:34.12 | Thunder_Child | persuades Fisker to eat the cyanide sandwich |
| 07:34.53 | Fisker | kisses Thunder_Child and passes the cyanide |
| 07:35.11 | Thunder_Child | drives over Fisker |
| 07:35.57 | Fisker | i'm already dead? |
| 07:35.57 | Fisker | and so are you btw |
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| 08:04.00 | Wobin | Fisker: http://elitistjerks.com/index.php?page=store |
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| 08:11.57 | Fisker | :3 Wobin |
| 08:12.05 | Thunder_Child | interesting, i did not know there was a bagdad, CA |
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| 08:40.03 | Thunder_Child | "Once you could hear the sucker linger show |
| 08:40.06 | Thunder_Child | " |
| 08:40.10 | Thunder_Child | that makes my head hurt |
| 08:40.35 | Wobin | ...what? |
| 08:40.37 | Aelobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WNrx2jq184 |
| 08:42.46 | Wobin | Aelobin: wow, the voting on those comments are a bit wild =P |
| 08:42.51 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OgMVNQ5hG0 |
| 08:43.04 | Thunder_Child | thats one line of the lyrics to that |
| 08:44.50 | Wobin | Is.. that... Cotton Eyed Joe played backwards or something? |
| 08:45.01 | Thunder_Child | no, but it is the same group |
| 08:45.21 | Aelobin | ba ba ba bird bird bird, bird is the word |
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| 08:50.36 | Fisker | takes out his stabbing knife |
| 08:51.50 | Thunder_Child | Fisker, the fact that you have a knife that is *not* for stabbing is disturbing. |
| 08:54.25 | Wobin | He's not a singing hobo |
| 08:54.29 | Wobin | He's a STABBIN hobo! |
| 08:55.46 | Fisker | bam |
| 08:55.57 | Aelobin | pokes Fisker. |
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| 08:56.18 | Fisker | stabs Aelobin |
| 08:56.18 | Thunder_Child | yer such a poser Fisker |
| 08:56.26 | Fisker | stabs Thunder_Child |
| 08:56.43 | Thunder_Child | POSER! |
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| 08:59.13 | Aelobin | anyone know how haste affects PPM's - i heard that due to special attacks, added haste increases the number of proccs per minute of a set PPM effect |
| 08:59.27 | Aelobin | if you have 20% haste, will you get 20% more proccs? |
| 09:00.17 | Thunder_Child | most items have an internal CD |
| 09:00.31 | Aelobin | im talking about berserker =] |
| 09:00.31 | Thunder_Child | i would dobut they would be affected by haste |
| 09:00.35 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 09:00.53 | Aelobin | i have 2x zerker and thinking of picking up 20% haste to increase their uptime by 20% |
| 09:01.32 | Slafsinator | Zerker is also triggered by specials, so 20% haste won't increase the uptime by 20% :) |
| 09:02.35 | Aelobin | aye, but haste rating is factored into your auto-attack procc chance to make sure you get the correct PPM from the effect. however, apparently haste rating has some sort of effect on the special attacks' PPM |
| 09:02.38 | Aelobin | *shrug* |
| 09:02.54 | Aelobin | elitistjerks to the rescue |
| 09:03.07 | Kalroth | Haste does affect it, but it's not worth it over your main stats |
| 09:03.28 | Kalroth | Berserker already got a very high uptime as it is |
| 09:04.00 | Aelobin | aye, but i could specc into Icy Talons (as a DK) to increase it's uptime, along with killing machine |
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| 09:14.58 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/17/martin-fury/ |
| 09:15.01 | Adys | YEAH baby. |
| 09:22.29 | Aelobin | shows how much blizz hump pallies >_> |
| 09:22.54 | Fisker | :3? |
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| 10:08.12 | Adys | erm |
| 10:08.12 | Adys | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetMerchantItemInfo |
| 10:08.19 | Adys | oh.. |
| 10:08.20 | Adys | ffs |
| 10:08.26 | Adys | you have to query the link |
| 10:08.35 | jnwhiteh | hrm? |
| 10:08.46 | Adys | no i was gonna ask where the hell you get the link for the item |
| 10:08.49 | Adys | but its a different function |
| 10:08.51 | Fisker | 100% CONFIRMED: jnwhiteh has highlight on wowprogramming.com |
| 10:08.52 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 10:08.56 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 10:09.00 | jnwhiteh | just wowprogramming |
| 10:09.18 | Fisker | What if i were to create a scam site? |
| 10:09.23 | Fisker | Called wowprogramming.net? |
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| 10:09.36 | Adys | too late i just did |
| 10:09.36 | jnwhiteh | you'd... scam... api... developers... out.. of... api documentation? |
| 10:10.03 | nevcairiel` | fisker scams you out of your dirty laundry to wash it |
| 10:10.08 | Fisker | I haven't worked that part out yet jnwhiteh |
| 10:10.16 | Fisker | But i'll get there |
| 10:10.44 | jnwhiteh | kk |
| 10:12.28 | Fisker | but there'll be SC2 info today |
| 10:12.37 | Fisker | unless Blizzard decides to be jerks and NDA it for a week again |
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| 10:35.21 | Fisker | stop jnwhiteh |
| 10:35.25 | Fisker | you've violated the lawl |
| 10:37.49 | Fisker | as have you nevcairiel |
| 10:38.00 | nevcairiel | sure, whatever |
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| 11:44.01 | Adys | In the Trial of the Grand Crusader, reach a Tribute Chest with 50 attempts remaining in 10-player mode, without any raid member ever having equipped, at any point during the boss encounters for that raid lockout, an item whose item level is higher than 232, except for those that are accessible to players who solely participate in the 10-player Trial of the Grand Crusader. (Raid members may use item level 245 items that are obtained in the 10-player Trial |
| 11:44.01 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:44.04 | Adys | This is a joke right |
| 11:45.31 | Taroven | Prolly. |
| 11:46.20 | Taroven | totally just solved layout issue #693. |
| 11:47.24 | nevcairiel | they've been speaking about including gear-dependant achievements for a while |
| 11:47.33 | nevcairiel | so that 25-raiders cannot just rush through the 10man achievements |
| 11:47.36 | Taroven | Made a little function to calculate the number of auras that can fit in a space of X width using Y icon size. |
| 11:48.07 | Fisker | infact nevcairiel they |
| 11:48.11 | Fisker | 've already had that |
| 11:48.24 | nevcairiel | not really |
| 11:48.40 | Fisker | yes really |
| 11:48.52 | Fisker | http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=3316 |
| 11:49.09 | Taroven | (and before anyone argues floor(width/size), it also returns padding between auras =) |
| 11:49.20 | nevcairiel | that achievement is fail though |
| 11:49.25 | nevcairiel | 10-man hardmode weapons are 232 |
| 11:50.00 | Taroven | My isp hates wowhead for the moment, it seems... That the Algalon achievement? |
| 11:50.09 | Fisker | I believe they hotfixed the achievement to allow 232 weapons |
| 11:50.10 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 11:51.01 | Spellbinder | Taroven slow? |
| 11:52.33 | Taroven | Spellbinder: Yep. |
| 11:53.11 | Spellbinder | yeah i heard it is right now |
| 11:53.20 | Spellbinder | not your isp |
| 11:53.32 | Taroven | *shrug* |
| 11:53.41 | Taroven | Same end result, my isp hates everyone equally. |
| 11:57.21 | Taroven | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/117831 - ...I really shouldn't be so happy about simple math. |
| 12:01.10 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/yoga_venajaksi.jpg |
| 12:02.38 | Taroven | XD |
| 12:08.08 | Fisker | Dx |
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| 12:12.29 | Cruciformer | gmorning all |
| 12:12.35 | Taroven | Mornin'. |
| 12:13.15 | Spellbinder | \o/ |
| 12:16.08 | Taroven | Anyone know of an oUF layout that sorts auras by duration? Or, failing that, how I'd go about it? |
| 12:16.44 | Taroven | I remember there was an aura sort plugin on wowi a while back, but it seems to have disappeared. |
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| 12:34.52 | Cruciformer | what is the best way of detecting if you are in combat or not? |
| 12:35.06 | Taroven | UnitAffectingCombat()? |
| 12:35.43 | Taroven | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitAffectingCombat |
| 12:35.58 | Cruciformer | yeah looking at that now thanks Taroven |
| 12:36.03 | Taroven | np |
| 12:36.39 | Cruciformer | I was also looking at ... |
| 12:36.50 | Cruciformer | !api InCombatLockdown |
| 12:36.50 | lua_bot | InCombatLockdown: Returns whether the user interface is protected due to combat (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/InCombatLockdown) |
| 12:36.59 | Taroven | That works too. |
| 12:38.21 | Cruciformer | wondering if there is any advantage / disavantage between the two |
| 12:38.58 | Taroven | *shrug* Fundamental differences |
| 12:39.17 | Taroven | InCombatLockdown would prolly be the reliable way to do it |
| 12:39.51 | Cruciformer | k Ill use that one foro no better reason than its first alphabetically :) |
| 12:40.00 | Taroven | =P |
| 12:40.26 | Taroven | Really, any case I've seen where there might be a question of which to use is answered by another question. |
| 12:40.49 | Taroven | "Is this because I'm changing around secure frames, or am I just looking for combat?" |
| 12:41.06 | Cruciformer | yeah this is simply a check to see if I should send an addon message that can be bulky. Dont want to induce lag if they are in combat. |
| 12:42.05 | Cruciformer | and the recipients are likely to be in teh same raid, and receipt of the message can change a displayed UI.So InCombatLockdown() seems like the right one. |
| 12:42.21 | Taroven | Actually, I'd use UnitAffectingCombat in that case |
| 12:42.55 | Cruciformer | any particular reason? |
| 12:43.02 | Taroven | Sure, check both units |
| 12:43.27 | Cruciformer | Oh I cant, its broadcast to the whole guild |
| 12:43.34 | Taroven | Ah |
| 12:43.35 | Cruciformer | not a single player. |
| 12:43.41 | Taroven | Lockdown then =P |
| 12:44.00 | Cruciformer | yar it "feels" right to me. Thanks for the advice :) |
| 12:44.09 | Taroven | Any time. |
| 12:46.25 | Cruciformer | I love lua. Statements like "elseif (gmtimer and not K.player.isgm and not K.player.isofficer) then" just read SO easily and unambiguosly |
| 12:47.01 | Taroven | ^_^ |
| 12:47.14 | Cruciformer | even an idiot can gather what that means, its great. |
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| 12:47.49 | Taroven | I find it really funny when I have guildies scared of changing settings in config files |
| 12:47.58 | Taroven | "But I dunno Lua!" |
| 12:48.00 | Cruciformer | bit easier than "If (gmtimer && !K.player.isgm && !K.player.isofficer) ..." |
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| 12:49.09 | Taroven | I really, really want to figure out this aura sorting thing... |
| 12:49.31 | Cruciformer | I didnt read history, what aura sorting thing? |
| 12:50.29 | Taroven | Trying to arrange auras in my oUF layout by duration. |
| 12:50.54 | Cruciformer | ah. Familiar with oUF I am not. |
| 12:51.10 | Taroven | There was a plugin for it at some point which seems to have disappeared from the interwebs. |
| 12:53.11 | Taroven | The debuff info is stored in a table... just not entirely sure if/how I can pull and sort the auras from there |
| 12:53.26 | Taroven | s/debuff/aura/ |
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| 13:28.34 | haste | god I hate: "Additional instances cannot be launched, please try again later." |
| 13:28.43 | haste | it's 3PM for crying out loud :( |
| 13:33.09 | Bruners | poor haste |
| 13:34.39 | Bruners | haste: the question is, why are abusing our instances by going to RFC? :P |
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| 13:38.30 | Bruners | ckknight: have you limited the download speed from curse or is the load heavy ? |
| 13:41.13 | ckknight | Bruners: not recently, afaik. |
| 13:41.23 | ckknight | it auto-adjusts based on traffic |
| 13:41.33 | Bruners | was just superslow at the moment |
| 13:41.34 | ckknight | and I don't believe we got a smaller line or anything |
| 13:43.36 | nevcairiel | are you premium and logged in? :) |
| 13:44.32 | haste | Bruners: to level first aid ofc! |
| 13:44.55 | Bruners | nevcairiel: yes and yes |
| 13:45.16 | Bruners | nevcairiel: unless ckknight for some reason turned my premium off tho |
| 13:45.39 | ckknight | I can only give people premium, I can't take it away |
| 13:45.46 | Bruners | haste: do you need runecloth/netherweave? |
| 13:45.57 | haste | not yet |
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| 13:48.26 | nevcairiel | ckknight: how many more IPs is the wowace page going to show on my profile? :D i get a new one every 24 hours =P |
| 13:48.41 | ckknight | fun. It shows the latest 20 |
| 13:49.29 | nevcairiel | 20, oh my |
| 13:49.35 | nevcairiel | sets up a greasemonkey script |
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| 13:53.03 | A-KO | I'm building a table for indexing mounts, and I'm sort of new to LUA but certainly getting the hang of it with few problems. I was wondering if it's possible to build a table with integers as the index names. I want to do this because I'm indexing by spellID as opposed to name due to locality differences in the spell names. I found that, say, mount = { 59996 = "blah", 59997 = "blah" } doesn't work. Is there a way to get it to work without putting an alpha ch |
| 13:53.06 | krka | A-KO: I think you meant to say Lua there. :-D |
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| 13:56.53 | haste | A-KO: http://github.com/haste/Noru/blob/6734a8f2240b280d392a0355852a87d0340c369f/noru.lua#L8 would be better |
| 13:57.03 | mikma | hmmmm |
| 13:57.10 | mikma | tooltip addon to rule them all.. |
| 13:58.46 | A-KO | hmm haste.... |
| 14:00.58 | A-KO | so return mounts.flying[1] returns 310% mounts, mounts.flying[2] 280% mounts, mounts.flying[3] 60% mounts.. |
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| 14:01.43 | A-KO | well that's a way to do it, okay then |
| 14:02.38 | A-KO | if only wow had better mount functions |
| 14:02.40 | A-KO | sigh |
| 14:03.19 | mikma | i've never had any problems with mounts ^^ |
| 14:03.47 | mikma | i use my keybindings for mounts: shift+g = landmount, ctrl+g = flyingmount |
| 14:04.39 | Bruners | shift+d on noru |
| 14:04.44 | Bruners | wins |
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| 14:04.59 | A-KO | I've got so many mounts wanted to write my own random mount function :P (yes, I know there are addons that do this, but what's the fun in that? lol) |
| 14:07.33 | A-KO | the only real dumb parts of it have been working around WoW's dumb problems |
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| 14:07.42 | A-KO | like Dalaran returning IsFlyableArea() as 1 |
| 14:10.31 | Bruners | well, it kinda is |
| 14:19.50 | Shirik | it is |
| 14:20.10 | Shirik | I see no problem with it returning 1 |
| 14:20.30 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ_4j68l7Jo |
| 14:20.35 | Shirik | anyway, A-KO, your problem is you need brackets |
| 14:20.48 | Shirik | mount = {[59996] = "blah", [59997] = "blah" } |
| 14:21.20 | Shirik | and mikma |
| 14:21.27 | mikma | shirik: _o/ |
| 14:21.29 | Shirik | it's supposed to be 5 = automount, alt+5 = ground mount |
| 14:21.36 | Shirik | wtf is this shift+g ctrl+g crap |
| 14:21.44 | mikma | i don't use any automount-crap :) |
| 14:22.01 | Shirik | automount = flying mount except when IsFlyableArea() evaluates to false |
| 14:22.18 | Shirik | typically I don't even end up using it; I've gotten in the habit of hitting alt+5 |
| 14:22.40 | Bruners | i just click ctrl+d and Noru fixes the rest |
| 14:22.58 | Bruners | or was it shift+d |
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| 15:06.07 | mikma | http://www.forcesofgeek.com/2009/07/is-fox-planning-to-recast-futurama.html |
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| 15:09.44 | Fisker | i don't get it mikma |
| 15:10.03 | Fisker | I thought Futurama was Comedy Central's now |
| 15:10.21 | mikma | apparently not |
| 15:12.23 | Ackis | Fisker: ILU |
| 15:12.29 | Fisker | IH8U |
| 15:12.35 | Ackis | :( |
| 15:14.16 | jnwhiteh | Anyone use Amazon S3 to store "stuff"? |
| 15:15.11 | nevcairiel | why does your stuff sound so illegal |
| 15:15.24 | nevcairiel | maybe its because you quoted it .. |
| 15:15.27 | jnwhiteh | its not in the least |
| 15:15.34 | jnwhiteh | just my photos |
| 15:15.46 | mikma | porn! |
| 15:15.48 | nevcairiel | a friend of mine uses it as backup storage |
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| 15:16.54 | Fisker | why pay for something you can get for free? >:3 |
| 15:17.12 | jnwhiteh | how do i get online storage for free? |
| 15:17.14 | jnwhiteh | beyond 2g |
| 15:17.23 | Fisker | Live Mesh |
| 15:17.27 | Fisker | It's 5GB |
| 15:17.29 | nevcairiel | store it in gmail, its 7g now |
| 15:17.30 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:17.34 | Fisker | or that |
| 15:17.43 | jnwhiteh | which is a bit of a pita to access |
| 15:17.45 | jnwhiteh | but yeah |
| 15:17.58 | Fisker | Live Mesh integrates with Windows |
| 15:18.06 | Ackis | I just bought a network storage device |
| 15:18.15 | jnwhiteh | i have a nas |
| 15:18.28 | jnwhiteh | and try |
| 15:18.29 | jnwhiteh | true |
| 15:18.35 | jnwhiteh | i'd need both my laptop and my nas to fail |
| 15:18.38 | jnwhiteh | but in the case of a fire or something |
| 15:18.41 | jnwhiteh | i'd lose both |
| 15:19.01 | Fisker | https://www.mesh.com/welcome/default.aspx |
| 15:19.02 | Fisker | do it |
| 15:19.24 | Ackis | if you're that concerned, burn the data to dvd on a regular basis and go get a safety deposit box at the bank |
| 15:19.32 | jnwhiteh | aspx |
| 15:19.35 | jnwhiteh | that says it all |
| 15:19.44 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: that's way more concerned than i am |
| 15:19.49 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:19.51 | jnwhiteh | but having them backed up online would be nice |
| 15:20.03 | Fisker | do it jnwhiteh |
| 15:20.07 | Ackis | what I used to do was just copy them to a thumb drive |
| 15:20.08 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 15:20.10 | jnwhiteh | with my windows ... |
| 15:20.11 | Ackis | on a regular basis |
| 15:20.11 | jnwhiteh | oh wait. |
| 15:20.25 | Fisker | It has mac support too dummy |
| 15:20.28 | nevcairiel | mesh also works for macs |
| 15:20.49 | jnwhiteh | ;-) |
| 15:21.21 | jnwhiteh | i already use dropbox |
| 15:21.44 | jnwhiteh | and live mesh doesn't offer enough space for me. |
| 15:21.53 | Fisker | who has 5GB of pictures? |
| 15:22.03 | jnwhiteh | I have 15+ |
| 15:22.05 | Ackis | raises his hand. |
| 15:22.29 | Fisker | recompress them then :P |
| 15:22.45 | Ackis | I think I have at least a gig of pics where I'm trying to e :P |
| 15:22.47 | Ackis | bah |
| 15:22.48 | jnwhiteh | .. fail |
| 15:22.50 | Ackis | fucking computer |
| 15:22.51 | Ackis | slow as shit |
| 15:22.57 | jnwhiteh | SmugMug seems interesting. |
| 15:23.00 | Ackis | I think I have at least a gig of pics where I'm trying to see up my nose :P |
| 15:23.11 | Fisker | interesting name atleast |
| 15:23.40 | Fisker | I could say something inappropiate |
| 15:23.41 | Ackis | Fisker: can I install wow onto livemesh and play off of there?! |
| 15:23.45 | Fisker | Probably hsouldn\t though |
| 15:23.50 | Fisker | shouldn't* |
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| 15:23.59 | Fisker | go for it Ackis |
| 15:24.06 | Fisker | see even Shirik found out |
| 15:24.13 | Ackis | wait I'd have to install wow :P |
| 15:24.15 | Shirik | ? |
| 15:24.33 | Ackis | i agree Fisker it's all shirik's fault |
| 15:24.43 | Fisker | I was considering saying something inappropiate that would probably net me a kick/ban |
| 15:24.49 | Ackis | ps shirik: I got Oregon trail for my blackberry! |
| 15:24.51 | Fisker | and then you joined |
| 15:25.01 | Shirik | oregon trail? |
| 15:25.10 | Ackis | yes |
| 15:25.16 | Ackis | don't you remember it from being a kid? |
| 15:25.21 | Ackis | apple 2E |
| 15:25.32 | jnwhiteh | <3 it |
| 15:25.45 | Wobin | Ackis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgbCg3G4A70 |
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| 15:27.10 | Ackis | lol i'm disturbed |
| 15:28.07 | Ackis | Fisker: how's the SC2 beta? |
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| 15:28.45 | Fisker | awesome |
| 15:29.02 | Ackis | I played a game of HoN |
| 15:29.02 | Ackis | I lost |
| 15:29.06 | Ackis | it was 1v1 vs my gf :( |
| 15:29.23 | Fisker | OOOOOOOOOWNED |
| 15:29.42 | Ackis | yah well I punched her in the ovaries after so I OWWWNEEEEDDD her! :P |
| 15:30.30 | Stanzilla | ... |
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| 15:43.39 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: wanna play a game? |
| 15:44.00 | jnwhiteh | or Fisker |
| 15:44.05 | Ackis | lol |
| 15:44.09 | jnwhiteh | or Cide |
| 15:44.15 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 15:44.36 | jnwhiteh | so Aperture's library management is really nice |
| 15:44.39 | jnwhiteh | Lightroom's is not. |
| 15:44.41 | Ackis | I don't know if I should feel honoured or scared to grouped in the same category |
| 15:44.43 | Cide | maybe in a few |
| 15:44.48 | Cide | heading out soon-ish though |
| 15:44.58 | jnwhiteh | but Lightroom actually has features to let you edit photos, whereas Aperture fails in that regard |
| 15:45.02 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: im' terrible too :P |
| 15:45.19 | jnwhiteh | but oh well |
| 15:45.21 | jnwhiteh | i'll just join a game |
| 15:46.02 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: lol I'm at work so can't play :( |
| 15:46.06 | jnwhiteh | no worries =) |
| 15:46.06 | Fisker | i just hope it has decent matchmaking for release |
| 15:46.11 | jnwhiteh | i just want to take a short break from my work |
| 15:46.13 | Fisker | I played a game yesterday and i got the moon queen |
| 15:46.43 | Fisker | So i was pretty much flamed obsessively the couple of times i died in the start |
| 15:46.50 | Fisker | Because i was alone vs. 2 :( |
| 15:47.15 | Fisker | Then at some point one from my team is getting hammered on by 3 heroes |
| 15:47.28 | Fisker | I ultimate and nuke the one low hp and kill the second hero |
| 15:47.42 | Fisker | Then he totally flips at me and convinces the rest of the team to leave me alone |
| 15:49.52 | Fisker | comfort me jnwhiteh :( |
| 15:50.15 | jnwhiteh | hehehe |
| 15:52.51 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: ping |
| 15:53.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: wow good timing, right as I woke up |
| 15:53.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: pong |
| 15:53.48 | ScytheBlade1 | (also, "hard drive") |
| 15:54.26 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: What is your site again? I wanted to show my grandfather that post you made last night as I'm trying to convince him to switch to chrome :P |
| 15:54.33 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 15:54.40 | ScytheBlade1 | http://aboveaverageurl.com/2009/07/google-chrome-and-things-we-pr.html |
| 15:55.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm still in a bit of shock as to just how awesome the JS engine was in just that one specific use case |
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| 15:56.05 | Lunessa | station |
| 15:56.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Is he using IE? |
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| 16:01.15 | cog|away | waves |
| 16:03.51 | Fisker | radioactive waves |
| 16:04.00 | cog|work | beta decays |
| 16:12.24 | ScytheBlade1 | waves at cog|work |
| 16:12.31 | ScytheBlade1 | and holy crap we have a lot of c* names |
| 16:12.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I hit c[tab] and thought "eh how many can there be" |
| 16:12.44 | cog|work | collapses his wave function |
| 16:12.47 | ScytheBlade1 | a lot, it would seem :P |
| 16:14.07 | Ackis | i love you cog|work |
| 16:14.12 | cog|work | Fisker: stop observing me! you messed up my superposition |
| 16:15.06 | cog|work | <3 Ackis |
| 16:15.29 | Ackis | door to door atheist ftw |
| 16:15.39 | cog|work | street racing is borked for me... it keeps endlessly swapping between index.php and tutorial/tutorial.php |
| 16:15.55 | Ackis | I didn't have an issue this morning |
| 16:16.14 | cog|work | it was working for me earlier. something i did must've messed up my character's state or something |
| 16:16.26 | cog|work | 'cause it does this on all my browsers |
| 16:16.40 | cog|work | submitted a ticket |
| 16:17.01 | Ackis | odd :( |
| 16:17.14 | cog|work | and you just helped me upgrade that clutch :'( |
| 16:18.08 | Ackis | you need 10 people to upgrade it to get it to the next level |
| 16:18.34 | cog|work | bleh |
| 16:18.43 | cog|work | only 4 of my friends have even installed that game >< |
| 16:18.44 | Ackis | exactly |
| 16:18.50 | Ackis | heh |
| 16:19.17 | Lunessa | cog|work: Did your quantum state collapse into a single probability? |
| 16:19.44 | cog|work | I'm not certain... |
| 16:20.05 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Yes, but he's actually having a different issue |
| 16:20.22 | Shirik | but I threw a "go with chrome instead" at him as a potential solution |
| 16:20.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Just the same, in that case, I fully support your wishes |
| 16:21.05 | ScytheBlade1 | (Said game is using SVG for the entire UI - JS generated SVG, to be precise - we aren't even bothering trying it in IE) |
| 16:23.09 | nicoli_s | SVG? |
| 16:23.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Scalable Vector Graphics |
| 16:23.22 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 16:27.39 | Lunessa | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/7/20/ |
| 16:28.20 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ "I CAN TASTE YOUR ZUUUUUUUNE" |
| 16:29.30 | nicoli_s | lol |
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| 17:03.42 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: You should grow up and play with the big boys |
| 17:03.44 | Shirik | make a game in C++ |
| 17:04.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Hard to do that in a browser |
| 17:04.49 | ScytheBlade1 | also, rtfa, that isn't what *I'm* doing ;) |
| 17:04.52 | Shirik | that would be why you don't use a browser |
| 17:04.59 | Shirik | Ok, you and your friend |
| 17:05.49 | Fisker | C# > C++ |
| 17:06.17 | nicoli_s | or just do like battlefield heroes, require the browser just so it can luanch a client side exe |
| 17:06.18 | ScytheBlade1 | C > C# > C++ |
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| 17:06.32 | nicoli_s | i would def not want to write a game in just C |
| 17:06.39 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, sorry, I don't want it tied to an OS |
| 17:06.53 | Shirik | coughs at Nexiuz |
| 17:06.54 | Fisker | C# > C > C# > C++ |
| 17:06.55 | ScytheBlade1 | nor do I want it having three different clients |
| 17:07.04 | Shirik | or other random OS |
| 17:07.17 | ScytheBlade1 | aye |
| 17:07.51 | Shirik | er |
| 17:07.55 | Shirik | or other random open source game |
| 17:08.08 | Fisker | so ScytheBlade1 |
| 17:08.14 | Fisker | where's your god now? |
| 17:08.40 | NightHawkTheSane | enjoying a nice brunch, i bet. |
| 17:08.41 | ScytheBlade1 | laughing at you |
| 17:09.23 | Lunessa | mmmm... brunch. With mimosas. |
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| 17:12.36 | Torhal | Mimosas and mojitos? |
| 17:13.47 | Lunessa | And maybe some egg-white omelets and waffles? |
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| 17:14.18 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man.. that sounds good |
| 17:14.32 | Zyndrome | oh wow, Paid Character Transfer changed from 30 day "cooldown" to 3 days |
| 17:14.42 | Torhal | Zyndrome: Mo money! |
| 17:15.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Zyndrome: o_0 |
| 17:15.45 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: I do like my animal comforts and my long brunches. |
| 17:15.55 | durcyn | Zyndrome: link |
| 17:15.56 | Lunessa | Cairenn|afk: We need a UI community brunch. |
| 17:16.16 | Zyndrome | 19:05.53 ( @WowTools ) (MMOC Blue Tracker) Paid Character Transfer Change - http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/18679999890-paid-character-transfer-change.html |
| 17:16.28 | NightHawkTheSane | was just considering transferring servers.. |
| 17:16.43 | NightHawkTheSane | what they -really- need is a bulk-rate character transfer. :( |
| 17:17.01 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: - No kidding - I have a lot of toons. |
| 17:17.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: yeah, and most of my toons on a given server are designed to work together, for professions/bank space. >< |
| 17:17.55 | durcyn | what the hell are they thinking making the transfer cooldown shorter than the raid lockout period |
| 17:18.09 | durcyn | some guild with more money than sense is going to abuse the hell out of that |
| 17:18.16 | Lunessa | Night Yeah. Same deal here. I have every profession and 2 vanity guild banks for space. |
| 17:18.52 | Lunessa | I'm not sure any epic/raid is worth $50 to me. |
| 17:19.04 | durcyn | think "server first titles" |
| 17:19.17 | Lunessa | Not worth it to me either. |
| 17:19.27 | durcyn | guarantee it's worth it to someone out there. |
| 17:19.30 | foxlit | durcyn: but if we're thinking that, what's the significance of this change? |
| 17:19.50 | foxlit | I mean, 30 days << patch lifetime. |
| 17:20.01 | durcyn | foxlit: transferring obviously resets raid IDs, you could bounce between two servers and clear twice |
| 17:20.06 | durcyn | and/or steal said achievements/titles |
| 17:20.21 | foxlit | You can already transfer to some backwater server if you're after the achievement. |
| 17:20.31 | durcyn | but you can't come back in a week. |
| 17:20.33 | foxlit | I'm with Lunessa on the "clear twice" aspect. |
| 17:20.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Not twice a week |
| 17:20.43 | foxlit | You only need the achievement *once* |
| 17:21.22 | durcyn | say what you will about it being worth it to you, personally, there will be drama about transfers taking server first titles then transferring back |
| 17:21.29 | durcyn | i'm calling it now |
| 17:23.34 | Lunessa | I have a solution for drama - I just let myself be entertained. |
| 17:23.53 | Lunessa | And now for a UI discussion - http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w227/matt_converse/WoW%20Interface%20Gallery/UI2009-07-19WIP.jpg my current side project. |
| 17:24.27 | foxlit | The only "new" aspect of this is if you're suggesting someone would be vindictive enough to do this multiple times -- otherwise, it's nothing new. People transfered to AQ gates servers with much longer transfer cooldowns. |
| 17:25.50 | foxlit | [I'm not sure if there's any value in returning to your "home" server after 3 rather than 30 days. Can't see why you'd care about where you are if you're just chasing achievements/epics.] |
| 17:26.38 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man, today's pa is awesome. |
| 17:32.58 | Lunessa | Can't wait to be able to stuff other people into big tanks of bubbling purple goo to augment my PC power. Mmmmm. |
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| 17:42.12 | ScytheBlade1 | o_o @ http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2009/Jul/0279.html |
| 17:43.17 | nicoli_s | uh oh |
| 17:43.48 | Fisker | This is my care face |
| 17:44.12 | Lunessa | What sort of dillweed do you have to be to say "Anti-sec will savor the moment when |
| 17:44.12 | Lunessa | White Hat Hackers are made to look like fools in the eyes of their clients. " |
| 17:44.16 | nevcairiel | good that my servers run on alternate ports |
| 17:44.22 | nevcairiel | although i think its bogus |
| 17:44.39 | ScytheBlade1 | same |
| 17:44.40 | Fisker | I don't use linux so i'm not affected |
| 17:44.50 | nicoli_s | windows ftw! |
| 17:44.58 | ScytheBlade1 | All of my SSH daemons run on alernate ports and only accept pubkey/kerberos auth |
| 17:45.11 | Fisker | my ssh daemons run on alien ports |
| 17:45.12 | Fisker | >:3 |
| 17:45.18 | ScytheBlade1 | So while I'm reasonably secure, if that is true, the net is going to be absolutely CRAWLING with bots in three days |
| 17:46.36 | nevcairiel | meh i'm pretty sure its FUD |
| 17:47.49 | nicoli_s | sure sounds like it |
| 17:47.53 | Fisker | nah |
| 17:48.10 | nevcairiel | they are trying to fisker us |
| 17:48.28 | Fisker | that may be correct |
| 17:49.24 | ScytheBlade1 | there have been rumors of this vulnerability for several weeks now |
| 17:49.34 | ScytheBlade1 | There is a decent chance that it is legit |
| 17:57.37 | ScytheBlade1 | oh well |
| 17:57.51 | ScytheBlade1 | In either case, I just submitted it to slashdot with some ominous FUD warnings |
| 17:57.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Will it help or hurt? Who knows! |
| 17:58.16 | Lunessa | Stiil, you have to be a douche to say "we found it, and rather than help people fix it, we're going to fuck you all up because we don't like you." |
| 17:59.34 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
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| 18:03.45 | Lunessa | Seerah: <3 - TipTop - can't live without it. |
| 18:04.17 | Seerah | hugs Lunessa |
| 18:04.27 | Seerah | it's got some bug reports, but I can't fix it cause I'm not playing atm |
| 18:04.52 | Lunessa | I was trying to play with the base UI and had to go install TipTop 'cause I couldn't stand it. |
| 18:04.56 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Something else on full disclosure found my attention today instead |
| 18:04.59 | Shirik | know what it was? |
| 18:05.01 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 18:05.36 | Shirik | sorry it was on bugtraq, not full-disclosure |
| 18:06.11 | Shirik | I give you a hint |
| 18:06.14 | Shirik | it's a software I hate |
| 18:06.22 | ScytheBlade1 | just link it already |
| 18:06.56 | Shirik | I'll have to find it |
| 18:06.58 | Shirik | i'ts on my blackberry |
| 18:07.24 | Shirik | http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/505096/30/0/threaded |
| 18:07.51 | ScytheBlade1 | har har |
| 18:08.00 | ScytheBlade1 | git-daemon is actually not used as often as you'd think |
| 18:08.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't use it anywhere |
| 18:10.22 | ScytheBlade1 | re: ssh: http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2009/Jul/0283.html |
| 18:11.41 | Shirik | I'm not sure whether to take it as FUD or as a real threat |
| 18:11.58 | Shirik | it seems unlikely to me |
| 18:12.43 | Shirik | but they also know what they're doing |
| 18:12.50 | Shirik | you can't deny them that |
| 18:12.58 | ScytheBlade1 | exactly |
| 18:14.57 | Arrowmaster | 'through 1.6.3' but the latest version is 1.6.3.3 |
| 18:17.15 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: What are you talking aobut? |
| 18:17.24 | Shirik | oh the git thing |
| 18:17.25 | Shirik | I dunno |
| 18:17.29 | Shirik | I just saw git and loled |
| 18:17.49 | Arrowmaster | there was something in gitweb a while back |
| 18:18.17 | Arrowmaster | involving its calling of diff |
| 18:18.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm kinda surprised that there aren't more gitweb hacks and such |
| 18:19.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Then again, my gitweb is also behind kerberos auth, so |
| 18:19.21 | Ackis | Cairenn: grats on your 10 :P |
| 18:19.26 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:19.28 | Shirik | 10? |
| 18:19.32 | Cairenn | shush |
| 18:19.35 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.37 | ScytheBlade1 | 10? |
| 18:19.45 | Ackis | lol |
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| 18:19.53 | Ackis | awkward eh? |
| 18:19.54 | Cairenn | Ackis: don't make me fly out there and kill you, be quiet |
| 18:19.56 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:20.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Ackis: ... keep talking... |
| 18:20.05 | Ackis | haha |
| 18:20.06 | alestane | knows what this is about. |
| 18:20.23 | Cairenn | you should see the results on all the ones I'm /not/ publishing *dws* |
| 18:20.26 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 18:20.42 | Seerah | ugh... I woke up with a huge knot in my back today that makes it painful to move and to breathe even. Do I want to go to my voice lesson and not breathe well and be in pain, but still get something accomplished?.... hmmm |
| 18:21.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Ackis: seriously, keep talking! |
| 18:21.03 | alestane | See a chiropractor? |
| 18:21.06 | Gnarfoz | untie it...? ;) |
| 18:21.08 | Ackis | ScytheBlade1: she'll hurt me :P |
| 18:21.18 | alestane | Ackis: I think that's the point. |
| 18:21.19 | Seerah | ~lart Gnarfoz |
| 18:21.19 | purl | burns Gnarfoz to a crisp with a laser |
| 18:21.20 | ScytheBlade1 | It's for the greater good |
| 18:21.31 | Gnarfoz | hmmm crispy |
| 18:21.33 | Cairenn | hands Seerah some anti-inflammatory, pain killers and a heating pad |
| 18:21.37 | Gnarfoz | munches |
| 18:21.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Ackis: what ScytheBlade1 said, take one for the team! |
| 18:21.49 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:21.50 | Shirik | Ackis: The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few |
| 18:21.51 | Ackis | lol |
| 18:21.51 | Lunessa | ... I can't help but feel like I'm missing something that would be awesome and delicious and no one is sharing. |
| 18:21.56 | Shirik | - Spock |
| 18:22.06 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:22.14 | Cairenn | if you guys really want to know, find me on FB |
| 18:22.16 | Ackis | I'm not vulcan, I'm canadian |
| 18:22.16 | Cairenn | :p |
| 18:22.18 | Seerah | if you wish to know, then you need to find out where this "10" occured :p |
| 18:22.18 | Gnarfoz | didn't he say "of the one"? |
| 18:22.20 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:22.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I hate facebook |
| 18:22.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Someone take screenshots and link! |
| 18:22.31 | NightHawkTheSane | facebook? ugh.. yeah, nevermind. |
| 18:22.35 | Lunessa | I have you on teh face-spacy thingy |
| 18:22.39 | Cairenn | snickers |
| 18:22.41 | Torhal | Cairenn: ZOMG! Interwebz death threats! |
| 18:23.05 | Cairenn | he knows I wouldn't actually kill him .... just hurt him in ALL the right ways ;) |
| 18:23.14 | Ackis | lol |
| 18:23.21 | ScytheBlade1 | someone start linking these pictures already |
| 18:23.23 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 18:23.35 | Seerah | Cairenn: I thought you had taken that quiz already... :p |
| 18:23.39 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Only 10? |
| 18:23.41 | Arrowmaster | cant, her profile is private |
| 18:23.52 | Arrowmaster | http://www.facebook.com/Cairenn |
| 18:23.55 | ScytheBlade1 | gah, jerk |
| 18:23.56 | Cairenn | Seerah: I had, don't know why it poofed, but it came up again, so |
| 18:24.02 | Seerah | hehe |
| 18:24.07 | Seerah | same score, MUST be true! |
| 18:24.08 | ScytheBlade1 | shall remain disappointed |
| 18:24.11 | Cairenn | Lunessa: right now, I'd be happy with onc! :p |
| 18:24.14 | Cairenn | once* |
| 18:24.20 | Ackis | rofl |
| 18:24.25 | Lunessa | Cairenn: You and me /both/. |
| 18:24.30 | Seerah | someone really needs to invent transporters |
| 18:24.38 | Cairenn | ^^ !!!! |
| 18:25.35 | ScytheBlade1 | sobs a little and gives up |
| 18:26.22 | Ackis | man I tried the usernames Arrowmaster and Asshole but your profile didn't show up :( |
| 18:26.55 | Torhal | !!! /kickban! |
| 18:27.27 | Ackis | :P |
| 18:28.05 | Ackis | so, smart people... why the hell do the scars on my face always get pimples? |
| 18:28.29 | nevcairiel | because we want it that way |
| 18:30.32 | Cairenn | omg, wth, when you tell them they aren't supposed to publish, they aren't supposed to publish! |
| 18:30.34 | Arrowmaster | "I had an emergency at the house last night and 911 did not display any sympathy. My coffee pot died." from a former teacher of mine that i swear must have drank over a dozen cups throughout a school day |
| 18:30.44 | Cairenn | deletes crap fast |
| 18:30.51 | kd3 | !? |
| 18:30.51 | ScytheBlade1 | continues sobbing |
| 18:30.58 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: have her on facebook? if so, GO |
| 18:31.04 | Cairenn | no |
| 18:31.07 | Cairenn | they're gone |
| 18:31.08 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 18:31.33 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: accept friend request |
| 18:32.43 | Cairenn | nevah |
| 18:32.43 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 18:32.46 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 18:32.47 | Fisker | give me info or give me death |
| 18:32.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm gonna have to agree with Fisker on this one |
| 18:33.19 | Cairenn | silly quiz results |
| 18:33.23 | Cairenn | and that's all I'm saying |
| 18:33.52 | ScytheBlade1 | okay, that makes things simple |
| 18:34.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Free karma to whomever tells me what quiz it was |
| 18:34.11 | Cairenn | which one? rofl |
| 18:34.18 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 18:35.36 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Did you do the Stripper Song quiz? |
| 18:35.41 | Cairenn | ni |
| 18:35.44 | Cairenn | no* |
| 18:35.45 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 18:35.47 | ScytheBlade1 | erm. |
| 18:35.54 | Cairenn | continues blushing furiously |
| 18:36.17 | Seerah | She took the Indian Name quiz |
| 18:36.20 | Lunessa | There is a reason I don't do any of those quiz thingys. |
| 18:36.24 | Cairenn | yes, I took that one |
| 18:36.26 | Torhal | Ackis: Because you still have pores underneath the scar tissue, which is not allowing them to "breathe" properly. |
| 18:36.33 | Ackis | Cairenn: You a maniac! |
| 18:36.38 | Cairenn | Ackis: shut UP |
| 18:36.40 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 18:36.41 | Ackis | lol |
| 18:36.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ... manic WHAT? |
| 18:37.23 | ScytheBlade1 | (I mean, there are only so many options here, but why not) |
| 18:37.23 | Seerah | okies, no lesson today. emailed and cancelled. |
| 18:37.40 | Arrowmaster | i just had to reply to somebody on facebook with "HTCPCP 418 I'm a teapot" |
| 18:37.49 | Cairenn | I can't believe it even showed that I TOOK those! rofl |
| 18:37.50 | Seerah | wanders off to find her good anti-inflammatory pills for her toe |
| 18:37.52 | Lunessa | comforts Seerah with a hot toddy and ibuprofen. |
| 18:38.05 | Shirik | hmm |
| 18:38.10 | Shirik | might have Cairenn on facebook |
| 18:38.19 | Seerah | you do |
| 18:38.21 | Seerah | you have me too |
| 18:38.23 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:38.25 | Thunder_Child | wow Cairenn, try clams and oysters |
| 18:38.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Ackis: PM, go |
| 18:38.30 | Fisker | failbook lol |
| 18:38.43 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Seriously, I skip anything that asks for access to personal information from FB. |
| 18:39.06 | Ackis | Lunessa: like if you find chocolate, underwear, or strawberries sexier? |
| 18:39.09 | Slafsinator | simply skips FB entirely |
| 18:39.13 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: stop, omg, just stop |
| 18:39.15 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 18:39.18 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.29 | Lunessa | Ackis: No Comment. |
| 18:39.32 | mikma | hmmmmmm |
| 18:39.37 | mikma | need to scroll backlog now |
| 18:39.46 | Cairenn | no, you really don't |
| 18:39.47 | Cairenn | omg |
| 18:39.49 | ScytheBlade1 | This grows annoying. |
| 18:39.51 | ScytheBlade1 | And yes, you do |
| 18:40.11 | mikma | yes, i do |
| 18:40.24 | mikma | since we all know what clams and oysters do ^^ |
| 18:40.29 | Thunder_Child | oh Cairenn, how much you amuse us with your shenanigans |
| 18:40.54 | Lunessa | So, we're buying Cairenn oysters at BlizzCon? |
| 18:41.02 | Seerah | prays to the Diclofenac gods that it works better on her back than it does her toe |
| 18:41.03 | Seerah | rofl |
| 18:41.11 | Zhinjio | laughs. |
| 18:41.45 | Cairenn | Cair's daughter: You do know she's actually blushing, right? And can't stop laughing? |
| 18:42.02 | Seerah | hehehe |
| 18:42.13 | ScytheBlade1 | That isn't remotely sufficient |
| 18:42.13 | Seerah | you guys made her leave the computer even |
| 18:42.15 | mikma | interesting, she has tought her daughter how to irc |
| 18:42.16 | Thunder_Child | WoWUIDev: 1, Cairenn: 0 |
| 18:42.21 | mikma | another admin in the way perhaps? |
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| 18:42.48 | Ackis | snickers. Another job well done by Ackis. |
| 18:43.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Someone needs to talk |
| 18:44.12 | ScytheBlade1 | In a bit more detail than the vague details provided by Ackis |
| 18:44.23 | Ackis | whistles innocently. |
| 18:44.25 | Thunder_Child | nope. |
| 18:44.32 | Thunder_Child | if you want to know, go as Cairenn |
| 18:44.36 | Thunder_Child | ask* |
| 18:44.37 | Lunessa | Poor, poor Cairenn. Blushing and laughter - I say she needs new boots and a box of oysters to help get her over it. |
| 18:45.06 | Thunder_Child | i'm not sure thats helping Lunessa |
| 18:45.07 | Seerah | distraction: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/A-Tale-of-Two-Kellys.html?yhp=1 |
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| 18:48.23 | Lunessa | I see she's keeping her name. |
| 18:48.36 | Seerah | hehe |
| 18:48.51 | Seerah | is he taking hers? |
| 18:52.12 | Lunessa | *chuckle* |
| 18:52.18 | Esamynn | I know someone who did that |
| 18:52.24 | Esamynn | a guy, rather |
| 18:54.14 | Lunessa | I knew a couple that crated a new family name when they got married. |
| 18:54.23 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 18:56.22 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: I figured it out |
| 18:56.29 | Shirik | I'm pretty convinced it's real |
| 18:56.36 | ScytheBlade1 | You figured the hole out? |
| 18:56.39 | ScytheBlade1 | In ssh? |
| 18:56.40 | Shirik | well no |
| 18:56.41 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 18:56.52 | Shirik | but I've made the determination that they probably have a real vulnerability |
| 18:57.01 | nevcairiel | its probably not even a real guy |
| 18:57.04 | nevcairiel | just some kids |
| 18:57.06 | Shirik | because think of it this way: nobody would take them seriously if they don't release anything in 48 hours |
| 18:57.13 | nevcairiel | anyone can sign up for a freaking gmail address |
| 18:57.33 | Shirik | yeah but antisec would discredit it if it weren't real imo |
| 18:57.36 | nevcairiel | thats what you call FUD shirik, try to get people to be nervous, and if its only for 2 days |
| 18:57.48 | Shirik | but |
| 18:57.53 | nevcairiel | antisec always was totally against releasing stuff |
| 18:57.55 | Shirik | if they DON'T release something |
| 18:57.56 | nevcairiel | why the change? |
| 18:58.01 | Shirik | nobody will take them seriously ever again |
| 18:58.20 | Esamynn | wonders what the heck this conversation is about |
| 18:58.31 | Cairenn | http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2009/Jul/0279.html |
| 18:58.36 | Esamynn | Cairenn: ty |
| 18:58.43 | Cairenn | Esamynn: you're welcome |
| 18:58.49 | Esamynn | now for lunch! =D |
| 18:58.49 | mikma | paladin players here? |
| 18:59.23 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: I don't understand SSL as it is |
| 18:59.28 | Shirik | you expect me to find the hole? :) |
| 18:59.43 | nevcairiel | OpenSSH, not OpenSSL |
| 18:59.44 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:00.01 | ScytheBlade1 | No, which is why I was in a minor state of shock |
| 19:00.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Not unlike Cairenn's 10 |
| 19:00.10 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:00.34 | Shirik | oh |
| 19:00.38 | Shirik | well I guess that's a little better |
| 19:00.40 | Cairenn | shush already, I finally got my blushes and giggles under control, you don't need to get it started up again! |
| 19:00.48 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 19:00.52 | Shirik | I stil lhaven't gotten to see this 10 |
| 19:01.11 | Coren{de} | neat, but written too hoaxy to be taken serious imho |
| 19:01.26 | nevcairiel | i'm pretty sure its just FUD |
| 19:01.28 | Lunessa | So I don't need the feather and the whipped cream? |
| 19:01.42 | Seerah | now see what you did? |
| 19:01.51 | Seerah | she hasn't responded yet |
| 19:01.56 | Seerah | you know what's happened.... |
| 19:02.11 | Cairenn | no, I'm just not responding, in the hopes that if I don't, this might stop |
| 19:02.13 | nevcairiel | Anti-Sec was always against releasing exploits to the script kiddies, why would they release a really big exploit like that now |
| 19:02.16 | nevcairiel | doesnt make sense |
| 19:02.41 | Coren{de} | especially the "any version of SSH" part can barely be meaningful in any reasonable definition of "any" :> |
| 19:02.43 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: It's also not that hard to spoof phpbb systems. |
| 19:02.59 | nevcairiel | thats why i'm saying its just FUD |
| 19:03.48 | nevcairiel | trying to get attention for 2 days |
| 19:03.56 | nevcairiel | making some people nervous |
| 19:03.59 | Seerah | wow... 259 care pileup in Germany on the autobahn |
| 19:04.08 | nevcairiel | really? |
| 19:04.09 | Seerah | *car |
| 19:04.11 | nevcairiel | checks news |
| 19:04.15 | Seerah | http://www.yahoo.com/s/1103036 |
| 19:04.46 | Cairenn | wow |
| 19:05.17 | mikma | paladins, are you here? |
| 19:06.00 | nevcairiel | hey thats even not too far away from here |
| 19:06.08 | nevcairiel | mustve been during that bad rain on sunday |
| 19:06.50 | Seerah | says it was raining |
| 19:07.29 | nevcairiel | had some bad thunderstorms and the rain to go with them |
| 19:07.37 | Coren{de} | heavy rain, aquaplaning, not enough distance to next car... |
| 19:08.16 | Cairenn | sun low in the sky so right in people's eyes, driving faster than conditions warrant ... |
| 19:08.28 | Lunessa | driving into the light of the sun to even further reduce visibility.. yeah. a mess. |
| 19:08.50 | Coren{de} | ah, looks like they want to finance the installation of a new traffic control system, that's why it's so top-newsy |
| 19:09.02 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:09.09 | nevcairiel | like that changes how people drive |
| 19:09.40 | Coren{de} | it does |
| 19:11.09 | Lunessa | Every nation wants a super highway system like the US has. Strange that the initial idea was inspired by the Autobahn. |
| 19:11.15 | Coren{de} | over limit in dense rain is at least 6 points I'd think, and with 12 your license goes on vacation (in Germany) |
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| 19:12.25 | Coren{de} | well, the Autobahn system was designed primarily as a troop transportation device... noone said anything about civil use when it was conceived :> |
| 19:13.18 | Lunessa | Coren{de}: Same for the US Interstate system. |
| 19:13.25 | Arrowmaster | US highway system sucks though, or atleast it does in my state, the intersection of two large interstates has been under construction for like 8 years and the roads a mess |
| 19:13.31 | Lunessa | Though civil use was a given. |
| 19:14.24 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: Yeah, population growth does that. - Modern Marvels on the History channel did a show about highways. It was pretty good, and it showcased some of the ones here where I live. |
| 19:14.29 | Seerah | Michigan has two seasons. winter and (road) construction |
| 19:14.31 | Coren{de} | I like driving on the French highways the most, even though they have 130kph limit :) |
| 19:14.54 | Arrowmaster | i want to kill the person that designed the I-75 northbound to I-70 westbound ramp, its fucking horrible |
| 19:15.06 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: Cloverleaf? |
| 19:15.11 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 19:15.27 | Arrowmaster | its a giant ramp that goes up and over |
| 19:15.39 | kd3 | hugs some of the 'designed' interchanges in and around atlanta |
| 19:16.02 | Lunessa | Haha... Atlanta and Houston and Dallas - all have pretty intense highways |
| 19:16.10 | Arrowmaster | but the angle is just so bad on it, plus it freezes in the winter |
| 19:17.58 | jnwhiteh | Is there any way (without using the keybindings interface) to capture all possible key combinations |
| 19:18.02 | jnwhiteh | i.e. to make my own custom key binding interface? |
| 19:18.28 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: you can get all the ones defined by Bindings.xml's |
| 19:18.32 | NightHawkTheSane | argh. textmate and bbedit need to go have a bastard child together. |
| 19:18.47 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: TextWrangler |
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| 19:19.01 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 19:19.02 | jnwhiteh | Arrowmaster: I need to give the user a button they can click, then it goes into "capture" mode, and binds whatever they did during capture moe |
| 19:19.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: no, that's just bbedit lite repackaged |
| 19:19.19 | Lunessa | Still, I heart it. |
| 19:19.23 | Seerah | jnwhiteh: like LibKeyBind or whatchamacallit? |
| 19:19.29 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:19.35 | jnwhiteh | yeah is there somethign that does that? |
| 19:19.42 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, yeah, don't get me wrong, <3 textwrangler. :) but i've got the full version of bbedit, which basically supersedes it entirely. |
| 19:19.46 | Seerah | dominos and BT4? use it |
| 19:19.53 | Arrowmaster | LibKeyBound-1.0 |
| 19:19.58 | Seerah | danke |
| 19:20.06 | NightHawkTheSane | but TM has some crazy-awesome features, i only wish i could combine the best of both of them |
| 19:20.28 | Lunessa | doesn't bbedit have plug-in support? |
| 19:20.49 | cog|work | jnwhiteh: at the heart of it you basically have to recreate the brunt of KeyBindingFrame_OnKeyDown |
| 19:20.50 | NightHawkTheSane | not really. |
| 19:20.50 | alestane | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.01 | cog|work | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/test/AddOns/Blizzard_BindingUI/Blizzard_BindingUI.lua |
| 19:21.05 | jnwhiteh | cog|work: thanks |
| 19:21.17 | NightHawkTheSane | It has support for adding some user content (language modules, scripts, text factories, etc), but nothing compared to textmates bundles |
| 19:21.32 | jnwhiteh | cog|work: PERFECT |
| 19:22.03 | NightHawkTheSane | textmate's language parsing/highlightning is generally beetter and more flexible. |
| 19:22.12 | mikma | jnwhiteh: pukey colors rules ftw |
| 19:22.19 | jnwhiteh | mm |
| 19:22.20 | jnwhiteh | huh? |
| 19:22.24 | jnwhiteh | oh that |
| 19:22.25 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 19:22.28 | jnwhiteh | i don't care |
| 19:22.29 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Damn it. I may have to actually pony up money and get a copy. |
| 19:22.32 | jnwhiteh | and couldn't figure out better riht now. |
| 19:22.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: heh, well its shareware, you can try it first at least :) |
| 19:22.58 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, alestane! I has an insanity! |
| 19:23.03 | alestane | I betcha. |
| 19:23.05 | NightHawkTheSane | (assuming you mean TextMate) |
| 19:23.10 | alestane | Are you in the new place yet? |
| 19:23.18 | Lunessa | huggles Lopeppeppy and hopes she's settling in. |
| 19:23.38 | Lopeppeppy | Oh yeah. Took an hour and a half for the army to shove everything into the new place yesterday, I took today off to unpack and find things. It's always faster to unpack! |
| 19:24.53 | Seerah | really?... I feel like I never get 100% unpacked :p |
| 19:25.26 | Lunessa | Me either. I still have boxes I haven't opened in 10 years. |
| 19:25.54 | NightHawkTheSane | those are probably things you don't actually want/need, then. ;) |
| 19:26.37 | Seerah | books? |
| 19:27.25 | NightHawkTheSane | if you haven't unpacked it in.. 10 years? |
| 19:27.55 | Seerah | my books are currently waiting on moolah for shelves |
| 19:28.14 | mikma | need paladin players! |
| 19:28.28 | Seerah | sheesh, mikma :p |
| 19:28.30 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, when I moved here I threw away 5 boxes I hadn't opened since I moved last year. Tossed them, without opening them. |
| 19:28.39 | mikma | but i really really do |
| 19:28.46 | mikma | i need to know which spells can be casted on another player |
| 19:29.01 | Seerah | does wowhead not give that info? |
| 19:29.12 | mikma | for some it does |
| 19:29.30 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=498 |
| 19:30.24 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Mostly they're books. Books I want to keep, but don't have room to store in any fashion except tightly packed. |
| 19:31.14 | Lopeppeppy | I do have 2 boxes of those, Lunessa, out of print/rare books I got from my mom. |
| 19:32.11 | Lunessa | After hurricane Ike, I threw out many, many, many boxes of things I hadn't used in forever. It made getting into the new studio apt much less work. |
| 19:33.09 | Lopeppeppy | I am being pleasantly surprised, only the kitchen is a bad fit in this new smaller place. And that's not a surprise, this kitchen is TINY compared to my last one. |
| 19:34.06 | Lunessa | Yeah, I tend to like big, roomy kitchens when I buy houses. But apartments? Meh. |
| 19:37.05 | Lopeppeppy | I can't fully open the oven door, Lunessa, that's how cramped it is. :) |
| 19:37.22 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: How will you make cookies? |
| 19:37.47 | Coren{de} | as long as you get the frozen pizza in and the hot pizza out intact... :D |
| 19:38.20 | alestane | Cookies are a much bigger concern. |
| 19:39.22 | Lopeppeppy | I don't eat pizza. |
| 19:39.45 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I'll have to bake small batches, and use a small pan. :) |
| 19:40.15 | Lunessa | ... Peppy dear, pizza is the ambrosia of our age. |
| 19:40.32 | Lopeppeppy | Pizza is for vile. Give me garlic bread instead. |
| 19:41.13 | Lunessa | ... but, but, but... |
| 19:41.19 | Lunessa | it's PIZZA |
| 19:41.32 | Lopeppeppy | vile |
| 19:41.39 | Seerah | :( |
| 19:42.02 | Lopeppeppy | It's the red sauce I don't like. |
| 19:42.18 | Arrowmaster | have you ever had a ranch pizza? |
| 19:42.32 | tekkub | bbq chicken pizza >>>> all |
| 19:42.42 | tekkub | especially if you add bacon |
| 19:43.09 | Seerah | you don't like any tomato sauces, peppy? |
| 19:43.22 | alestane | This is the wackiest combination of techno and classicl cello, and I find it *awesome:* http://ocrmirror.org/Final_Fantasy_4_Fallen_Dragoon_OC_ReMix.mp3 |
| 19:43.55 | Lopeppeppy | Seerah, nope. I will eat it, in the way that you'd eat brussel sprouts if you hate them, but they were what was for dinner... but not usually voluntarily |
| 19:44.22 | Lopeppeppy | I'm getting a bit more accustomed to it, dating a vegetarian... but only a little bit, it's still not good. |
| 19:44.44 | Arrowmaster | Lopeppeppy: seriously find a place that makes good rance pizza's, its just any kinda pizza with ranch dressing instead of tomato sauce |
| 19:46.12 | Lunessa | You can get pizza with alfredo sauce too. |
| 19:46.15 | Lunessa | Or sauceless. |
| 19:46.35 | Seerah | cheese bread :) mmmm |
| 19:46.44 | Lopeppeppy | I just get the garlic bread and I'm happy. |
| 19:46.54 | Cruciformer | never did understand vegetarians. If we werent meant to eat animals why are they made out of meat? |
| 19:47.01 | Lunessa | damn it. Now I want pizza and cookies. |
| 19:47.17 | Lunessa | Cruciformer: not just meat ... /tasty/ meat. |
| 19:47.26 | Cruciformer | yup :) |
| 19:47.35 | Cruciformer | PETA = People Eating Tasy Animals |
| 19:47.39 | Seerah | I had bagel bites for lunch :) |
| 19:47.40 | Lunessa | And then, there is BACON! |
| 19:47.45 | Seerah | but I'm craving some cheese bread.... |
| 19:48.05 | Lunessa | tekkub is right - most anything is better with bacon. |
| 19:48.41 | tekkub | http://incredimazing.com/page/Bacon_Flowchart |
| 19:48.54 | Lopeppeppy | Vegetables, it's what food eats. |
| 19:49.18 | Cruciformer | hehehe Ive not heard that one before. I like it. |
| 19:49.21 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a carnivorous dinosaur, always will be. Extra rare cow is godlike. |
| 19:49.34 | NightHawkTheSane | writing forms in css makes me cry a little inside |
| 19:50.28 | Lunessa | tekkub: Pure WIN |
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| 19:53.21 | Lunessa | night: It does suck to constantly reload a browser to make sure you've got the fields right. |
| 19:54.33 | Arrowmaster | so your not going to believe where i just found a bunch of my dj tiesto and paul oakenfold cds, and a very specific cd i was looking for venus hum - big beautiful sky |
| 19:55.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: what sucks more is tweaking widths, margins, and floating divs to make sure things line up sanely. |
| 19:55.27 | nevcairiel | You guys do know about Firebug, yes? |
| 19:55.29 | Cruciformer | Only venus hum Ive heard was the version of I Feel love that they did ith Blue Man Group which was AWESOME. |
| 19:55.42 | Arrowmaster | in the 6disc cartrigies for the cd player from my car that was wreaked in 2004 |
| 19:55.43 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: Evidently I do not. |
| 19:56.05 | nevcairiel | then go look it up, best tool in webdev ever |
| 19:56.08 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster: Which Tiesto? "Just Be"? thats my all-time fave |
| 19:56.08 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: Damn. That's a) funny, b) sad |
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| 19:56.19 | ambethia | join #norganna |
| 19:56.32 | Arrowmaster | Cruciformer: yes i went to one of the shows and purchased the cd at the end of the show |
| 19:56.37 | ambethia | oops |
| 19:56.54 | Cruciformer | I love tiesto ... fave dj. Oakenfold aint too bad either. |
| 19:56.58 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: Awesome. |
| 19:57.39 | nevcairiel | Live editing of web pages is so much better |
| 19:57.51 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: i know about it, although it's still a damn pain in the ass |
| 19:58.01 | nevcairiel | but you get around the reloads |
| 19:58.05 | Arrowmaster | Cruciformer: seems it was nyana, both discs in here, mostly oakenfold though, like 5 discs worth |
| 19:58.54 | Cruciformer | Nyanna had some good stuff on it too. I also really like Paul van Dyke, and Talla 2XLC if u can still find his few CD's he did. |
| 19:59.44 | nicoli_s | oakenfold = teh suck |
| 20:00.14 | nicoli_s | i passed by some of his show at bonnaroo, just didnt do anything for me |
| 20:00.23 | Cruciformer | i wouldnt say he is the suck, he's just nowhere near as good as tiesto :) |
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| 20:00.49 | Arrowmaster | most of my oakenfold stuff is older, like 10 years old |
| 20:01.10 | Cruciformer | I also really like armin van buuren |
| 20:05.26 | ambethia | Is there anyone here who's familiar enough with the inner workings of Auctioneer to answer some questions? In particular, the purpose of AucAdvanced.API.BlockUpdate(), it doesn't seem to be what I expected. |
| 20:06.28 | Ackis | ambethia: try #norganna if you don't get an answer here |
| 20:06.40 | Ackis | wait you're in there already :P |
| 20:06.46 | ambethia | Sadly, no one replied. |
| 20:07.08 | Ackis | it's a slow channel, I've seen answers given 30 mins after a question has been asked |
| 20:07.20 | ambethia | I just want to suspend auctioneer scan my results everytime I use QueryAuctionItems() in my addon |
| 20:08.55 | ambethia | fingers crossed |
| 20:09.03 | Arrowmaster | Cruciformer: just found both my blue man group cds, i knew they were in the cd rack behind me somewhere |
| 20:10.21 | Cruciformer | The Complex is my fave. Thats an awesome disc always makes me happy. |
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| 20:10.28 | Cruciformer | and the dvd is pretty amazing too. |
| 20:10.55 | Arrowmaster | i got the big show pack i think somewhere |
| 20:11.03 | Arrowmaster | with the big book |
| 20:14.32 | Arrowmaster | for anybody that doesnt know what we are talking about, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ytn66X4ZI |
| 20:14.59 | nicoli_s | i cant see the blue man group without thinking of arrested devlopment |
| 20:20.46 | ckknight | nicoli_s: lol, same |
| 20:23.46 | Fisker | a danish soccer player was struck by lightning |
| 20:23.53 | ckknight | serves him right |
| 20:23.56 | ckknight | for being danish. |
| 20:24.07 | Ackis | danishes taste good |
| 20:24.13 | Fisker | The lightning strike was so massive that it knocked 4 other players to the ground <- As if they were faking it for a freekick |
| 20:24.48 | Fisker | i'm so funny |
| 20:25.00 | Fisker | (ps the guy is in a coma and his condition is critical) |
| 20:27.16 | Lunessa | I never get tired of that Blue Man Group video. |
| 20:27.26 | Fisker | slaps Lunessa around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:27.50 | Lunessa | What, I'm supposed to continue talking about a guy I don't know who got zapped? |
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| 20:32.06 | Cralor` | Is SetTexCoord values (0,0,0,0) by default? |
| 20:33.17 | ckknight | I'd imagine 0, 1, 0, 1 |
| 20:34.01 | Fisker | you think i know him Lunessa ? |
| 20:34.14 | Cralor` | ckknight: Indeed you are right. thank you |
| 20:35.10 | Lunessa | Fisker: The world is too big for me to be emotionally invested in 1 guy who got hurt who has no relevancy to my existence. Now, tell me that someone I know got hit by lightning, and I'll give 2 shits. Until then, hit yourself with a large trout fish boy. |
| 20:35.58 | ckknight | it's the monkeysphere |
| 20:36.30 | ckknight | what's more important to you: your parent or sibling dying in a car crash, or 100k people on the other side of the world being wiped out by a natural disaster? |
| 20:36.53 | ckknight | it's just part of the human condition to care for those close to you |
| 20:37.36 | Fisker | slaps Lunessa around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:37.50 | Cralor` | if I do a SetTexture, but would be the best way to no longer use that texture? |
| 20:38.03 | ckknight | :SetTexture(nil) |
| 20:38.17 | Cralor` | guess that must be different than ("") |
| 20:38.27 | Lunessa | ckknight: True - though scale makes me more apt to go do things in the event of disasters. |
| 20:39.06 | Cralor` | thanks again |
| 20:39.55 | Fisker | goodbye cruel world |
| 20:40.24 | mikma | NSFW http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/20/sprite-blow-job-ad-banned_n_240851.html |
| 20:40.35 | ckknight | Lunessa: I like to pick out a child in a third world country and give charity to that one child for a while |
| 20:41.19 | Fisker | how is that nsfw mikma ? |
| 20:41.28 | Fisker | It's just a sprite jizzing over a woman |
| 20:41.42 | mikma | fisker: it is for ameridorks |
| 20:41.52 | Fisker | oh yeah |
| 20:41.59 | mikma | we, europeans laugh at that |
| 20:42.11 | Fisker | because you can see the black guys' nipples |
| 20:42.23 | Lunessa | ckknight: I don't like guilt trip ads to make me give to charity. I do enough as it is. But I don't understand people's need to have me feel bad right now for something that I can do nothing about for a person I don't know. I mean, what, I'm going to the Netherlands to give blood to a guy who got hit by lightning? |
| 20:42.31 | NeoTron | apparently it was NSFTV in germany |
| 20:43.02 | Fisker | godwins law NeoTron |
| 20:43.19 | Fisker | don't make me uphold it |
| 20:44.12 | Fisker | anyways goodbye cruel world |
| 20:46.39 | ckknight | Lunessa: I don't do it on a guild trip, I do it on a power trip. Without my charity, the kids I've helped would've likely died. |
| 20:47.15 | Lunessa | ckknight: It's good to help people. :) |
| 20:47.47 | ckknight | yea, no doubt, but you gotta get to the core of your "why" |
| 20:47.51 | ckknight | why help people? |
| 20:47.54 | ckknight | figure that out first. |
| 20:48.00 | ckknight | I already have my reasons |
| 20:48.15 | Lunessa | If you have a reason that works for you, that's all that matters. :) |
| 20:49.11 | nicoli_s | i do it so when im poor and bloated in africa i know people will help me.....right? |
| 20:49.16 | ckknight | by raising the lower echelons of society to a higher degree, it creates a larger safety net for the higher echelons |
| 20:52.07 | Lopeppeppy | Or we could just sterilize these lower echelons and they would die out. |
| 20:52.09 | Lopeppeppy | boggles. |
| 20:52.30 | Torhal | There's something inherantly wrong with taking falling damage while on a flying mount. |
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| 20:53.13 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: If you're poor and bloated from starvation, you're welcome to crash on my floor and eat my food while we help you find work. |
| 20:57.44 | NeoTron | Torhal: worse is dying from falling damage while on a flying mount |
| 20:58.18 | Torhal | Nice., |
| 20:58.44 | Coren{de} | worse is entering a BG while in flight form and popping out in tree... |
| 20:59.39 | Coren{de} | (or even better, oom) |
| 21:02.57 | Adys | Maldivia: you around? |
| 21:03.07 | Thunder_Child | *sugh* wtb non ~90 deg weather |
| 21:03.10 | Thunder_Child | sigh* |
| 21:03.17 | Lopeppeppy | I hear you, TC. |
| 21:03.31 | Thunder_Child | i has no AC |
| 21:04.07 | Adys | sughs Thunder_Child |
| 21:06.30 | Lopeppeppy | I bought one for the apartment, so at least I can sleep at night. |
| 21:12.37 | Lunessa | Apartments here are not constructed without A/C. No one would live in them. |
| 21:13.12 | Lopeppeppy | Most of them here don't have AC. I was lucky in my last one that it had central air. |
| 21:13.28 | Lopeppeppy | This one doesn't even have a window I could put a window unit out of, I had to buy a free-standing one. |
| 21:13.56 | Lunessa | ... no window? how is that even legal by building codes? |
| 21:16.03 | bleeter | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN75im_us4k sfw |
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| 21:21.21 | Lunessa | ... i think you just broke my mind. |
| 21:22.40 | Lopeppeppy | No, it has windows. It has side-sliding windows, and no way to support an AC unit underneath. I'm on the second floor. |
| 21:23.08 | Lopeppeppy | First floor units have been known to pop one in, and put plexiglass above the unit, and build a prop under the unit... I'm on the second floor. |
| 21:23.11 | Lopeppeppy | So I have a dalek instead! |
| 21:24.12 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: oO was it I who broke your mind with that 'Never gunna give your teen spirit up' video? |
| 21:24.29 | bleeter | bah |
| 21:24.32 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think I've watched such a creature, bleeter, sorry. |
| 21:24.32 | Coren{de} | lol... http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/17/some-e-books-are-more-equal-than-others/ |
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| 21:24.37 | bleeter | s/lopepeppy/lunessa/ |
| 21:24.42 | Lopeppeppy | My mind was borked long before then. :) |
| 21:25.01 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: my incredibly random URL that I just posted |
| 21:25.04 | bleeter | blames rizzo |
| 21:25.21 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Well, as long as it doesn't try to "exterminate" you, I guess it's ok. |
| 21:25.54 | Lunessa | Coren{de}: Something that just cemented why I'll never own a Kindle. |
| 21:27.54 | mikma | how to detect a mage-clone? |
| 21:28.10 | ScytheBlade1 | smack it once? |
| 21:28.44 | Lopeppeppy | AoE? |
| 21:35.57 | mikma | i mean with api :) |
| 21:35.57 | ScytheBlade1 | you don't |
| 21:35.57 | Aelobin | UnitIsPlayer? |
| 21:35.58 | bleeter | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/072009-microsoft-linux-source-code.html |
| 21:35.58 | ScytheBlade1 | hm, that.. may, depending |
| 21:36.26 | mikma | also, how can Mage get a Nether Protection on himself? |
| 21:36.45 | ScytheBlade1 | spellsteal? |
| 21:36.49 | mikma | ... |
| 21:37.01 | mikma | scytheblade1: you sir are smart |
| 21:37.05 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a defensive proc buff from a warlock, correct? |
| 21:37.18 | mikma | exactly |
| 21:37.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I can't tell if that is sarcasm or not :P |
| 21:37.24 | mikma | i meant it |
| 21:37.27 | ScytheBlade1 | phew |
| 21:37.28 | mikma | the mage was dueling warlock |
| 21:37.37 | mikma | and they both had nether protection on at the same time |
| 21:37.43 | mikma | was kinda "wtf?" moment |
| 21:37.44 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah spellsteal |
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| 21:37.58 | mikma | now that leaves me in another annoying situation |
| 21:38.32 | mikma | i need to find a list of spells that can be spellstealed :( |
| 21:38.36 | mikma | adys: PING! lal |
| 21:38.55 | ScytheBlade1 | that.. is a complicated list, I think |
| 21:39.18 | ScytheBlade1 | for example, Divine Shield |
| 21:39.28 | mikma | that can't be stealed afaik |
| 21:39.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Which can be stolen given the right timing and latency |
| 21:39.40 | mikma | .. huh? |
| 21:39.42 | ScytheBlade1 | yup. |
| 21:39.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Otherwise you'd be right |
| 21:39.55 | mikma | that's a bug then |
| 21:40.06 | ScytheBlade1 | One that they can't really fix |
| 21:40.08 | Adys | mikma: LOLPONG |
| 21:40.09 | Aelobin | mikma: aren't they adding an option to "highlight stealable/dispellable buffs" ? |
| 21:40.10 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not common by any means |
| 21:40.15 | ScytheBlade1 | But it is possible |
| 21:40.17 | Aelobin | so there must be a function for it |
| 21:40.23 | jnwhiteh | the API returns it |
| 21:40.27 | mikma | adys: you must have some kind of list of stealable spells |
| 21:40.29 | jnwhiteh | !api UnitAura |
| 21:40.30 | lua_bot | UnitAura: Returns information about buffs/debuffs on a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitAura) |
| 21:40.34 | Adys | mikma: sorta |
| 21:40.52 | jnwhiteh | name, rank, icon, count, dispelType, duration, expires, caster, isStealable = UnitAura("unit", index [, "filter"]) or UnitAura("unit", "name" [, "rank" [, "filter"]]) |
| 21:41.08 | mikma | jnwhiteh: you see, we have another problem :D |
| 21:41.17 | mikma | jnwhiteh: mages can steal pretty much anything |
| 21:41.22 | jnwhiteh | yeah, so? |
| 21:41.24 | Adys | mikma: http://db.mmo-champion.com/spells/?dispel_type=1&duration__gt=1 |
| 21:41.35 | Adys | add &maxresults=3000 to see them all. DONT do that in firefox |
| 21:41.51 | mikma | jnwhiteh: so, we can't limit all spells to classes |
| 21:42.05 | nicoli_s | whatll happen when we do adys? |
| 21:42.09 | jnwhiteh | mikma: ... |
| 21:42.14 | jnwhiteh | mikma: mages are the exception |
| 21:42.15 | Adys | youll just crash because firefox sucks |
| 21:42.16 | mikma | adys: is that a "use chrome" |
| 21:42.17 | jnwhiteh | so consider it. |
| 21:42.23 | Adys | yeah mikma. |
| 21:42.27 | mikma | jnwhiteh: hmm, true. |
| 21:42.31 | nicoli_s | worked fine here adys |
| 21:42.34 | nicoli_s | in ff |
| 21:42.40 | Adys | really |
| 21:42.52 | nicoli_s | yah, just a small delay while it loaded the data |
| 21:43.00 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/spells?maxresults=50000 |
| 21:43.02 | Adys | how bout that. |
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| 21:43.26 | mikma | loading.. loading.. |
| 21:43.37 | Adys | (i should prolly hardcode a 10k limit otherwise its easy to ddos the db but w/e) |
| 21:43.47 | nicoli_s | yah, just sits at loading |
| 21:43.47 | mikma | Do it. |
| 21:43.56 | Adys | the page is like 5mb |
| 21:43.57 | mikma | transferring data from db.. . |
| 21:44.10 | mikma | 1-50 (46592 total) |
| 21:44.32 | mikma | after a while loading |
| 21:44.46 | Adys | click on a table header |
| 21:44.48 | mikma | adys: where's our "display n+1 items on same page" feature? |
| 21:45.06 | Adys | you can do it on the console, I didnt do the gui for it yet |
| 21:45.09 | mikma | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/29820/wr |
| 21:45.10 | Adys | pokes amro |
| 21:45.18 | mikma | sorted the table to the other way :) |
| 21:45.28 | Adys | you got a special firefox then |
| 21:45.34 | Adys | the one made by google or something |
| 21:45.38 | Adys | they called it chrome iirc. |
| 21:46.07 | mikma | ff 3.5.1 |
| 21:46.20 | Adys | mikma: run this on the console |
| 21:46.26 | Adys | TABLE_ITEMS_PER_PAGE = 150 |
| 21:46.44 | Adys | and refresh the table (by clicking on a header or something) |
| 21:47.34 | mikma | now where did the console go.. |
| 21:47.55 | Lopeppeppy | Nom nom nom! |
| 21:48.02 | mikma | it just went grey and nothing happened :D |
| 21:48.11 | Adys | grats firefox user |
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| 21:49.19 | mikma | adys: i'm not entirely sure does that page do the trick |
| 21:49.33 | Adys | whichever table listing |
| 21:49.41 | mikma | http://db.mmo-champion.com/spells/?dispel_type=1&duration__gt=1 |
| 21:49.50 | Lunessa | Greetings Starfighter! You have been selected to defend the Frontier against Zur and the Kodan Armada. |
| 21:50.00 | mikma | this one, when i type "nether" in the refine search, nothing is shown :( |
| 21:50.01 | Adys | mikma: whats wrong with it? |
| 21:50.12 | Adys | it shows 700 max results |
| 21:50.17 | Adys | add &maxresults=3000 |
| 21:51.28 | Lopeppeppy | Greetings! |
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| 21:52.35 | mikma | adys: ah :) righton |
| 21:53.22 | bleeter | so the 3 day PCT is a locked, therefore moderated, thread therefore no dicsussion will be permitted? interesting |
| 21:53.26 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18697250913&sid=1 |
| 21:54.05 | bleeter | oh nm, the General thread isn't locked |
| 21:54.17 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18679999890&sid=1 |
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| 21:55.32 | mikma | jnwhiteh: what shall we do with the mages? :D |
| 21:55.55 | mikma | jnwhiteh: add a check UnitClass(unit) == table.class or "MAGE" ? |
| 21:56.15 | mikma | imho, that would propably work pretty nicely |
| 21:58.50 | Lopeppeppy | Oh holy crap, server-hopping for the win.... wow. |
| 22:06.28 | Lunessa | I don't expect it will be profitable enough for guild bank ninjas to be hopping every 3 days at $25 US a pop. |
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| 22:17.34 | Lunessa | apparently paris23@live.stealling.your.passwords.with.fake.sex.chat.com has a lot of friends on MSN. |
| 22:18.07 | Kraps | rofl |
| 22:19.41 | Kraps | should i download wow on this pc? |
| 22:21.04 | NightHawkTheSane | if you intend on playing wow on it, it may help |
| 22:21.16 | ScytheBlade1 | nah, just wait for them to debut browser WoW |
| 22:21.31 | Kraps | ^ |
| 22:25.20 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-nH3ik4DAs this is a scam waiting to happen but ima click it anyway |
| 22:25.41 | Kraps | gah |
| 22:26.13 | Kraps | must... resist... entering... info... |
| 22:30.14 | nicoli_s | you know its fake as hell |
| 22:32.33 | Kraps | without entering anything i got this http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wowbot.php |
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| 22:33.23 | ScytheBlade1 | "it often does not work with trials and make sure your account is not expired and you cant make new characters on the current version there working on making that possible again" |
| 22:33.30 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 22:34.08 | Lopeppeppy | TTFN, beautiful people! |
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| 22:34.12 | Lunessa | Please, be a dumbass and give me your account so I can play 'cause my mommy won't pay for me to play on my own. |
| 22:34.13 | ScytheBlade1 | cy-- |
| 22:34.23 | ScytheBlade1 | .. she's a freaking ninja at times |
| 22:34.25 | NeoTron | ScytheBlade1: "also doesn't work if your IQ is above 75." |
| 22:34.28 | Kraps | later peppy |
| 22:34.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 22:36.07 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmWUVLihDec&NR=1 |
| 22:36.38 | Kraps | private offline server ? |
| 22:36.46 | ScytheBlade1 | those DO exist |
| 22:36.56 | ScytheBlade1 | The first emulators were simple sandboxes |
| 22:37.12 | Kraps | its wow god mode? |
| 22:37.20 | ScytheBlade1 | more or less |
| 22:37.33 | nicoli_s | there were emulators our before wow was even out of alpha |
| 22:37.38 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
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| 22:40.21 | nicoli_s | i remember the very first one, you could simply run around the world as a doom guard :P |
| 22:42.58 | Shirik | :( |
| 22:43.29 | Shirik | my code is causing this exception, called SEHException, which according to documentation basically means "Something bad happened" |
| 22:43.56 | Kraps | GC is on a roll "If you're looking for that one thing that's going to get you a raid spot, I'd shoot for a reputation that you know what the blank you're doing and some good friends." |
| 22:43.59 | Shirik | after doing some googling, I found a private field in this exception which is the code for what NT status raised the exception |
| 22:44.20 | Shirik | I find out it's RPC_E_SERVERFAULT, which also means basically "Something bad happened" |
| 22:44.28 | Shirik | very useful error messages... |
| 22:44.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I detect a pattern |
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| 22:45.54 | Coren{de} | at least the subcode says the server's at fault, not your code? :) |
| 22:46.18 | ScytheBlade1 | pfft it's always Shirik's fault |
| 22:46.27 | Shirik | not really |
| 22:46.35 | Lunessa | Shirik: Basically, what you're saying here is "something bad happened, sorry." |
| 22:46.36 | Shirik | this is the generic "server" term |
| 22:47.00 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/145372821 |
| 22:47.31 | ScytheBlade1 | hm, I need a cheap pair of headphones/earbuds |
| 22:47.40 | ScytheBlade1 | So I can hack the end off and attach it to this table |
| 22:47.42 | ScytheBlade1 | *cable |
| 22:47.47 | ScytheBlade1 | blinks |
| 22:47.49 | ScytheBlade1 | too much lua |
| 22:50.35 | Kraps | Adys: that thing is depressing |
| 22:50.41 | Lunessa | hacking code isn't enough for you anymore? Now you're moving onto hardware. It's a gateway drug! |
| 22:50.48 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:50.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Or this connector is just crappy |
| 22:51.01 | ScytheBlade1 | and has to be positioned perfectly |
| 22:51.11 | Adys | thats the intent Kraps |
| 22:51.43 | Lunessa | So that means it's broken. |
| 22:51.55 | ScytheBlade1 | It's working fine now |
| 22:52.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I just can't move my laptop even a fraction of an inch |
| 22:52.16 | ScytheBlade1 | If I do, I lose right channel audio |
| 22:52.24 | ScytheBlade1 | and left goes all... crazy |
| 22:53.37 | Kraps | ScytheBlade1: just got my third http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-ClearChat-Pro-USB-Headset/dp/B000TG4AGU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1248130387&sr=1-2 |
| 22:53.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Eww, USB headset |
| 22:53.57 | Kraps | oh headphons |
| 22:54.02 | ScytheBlade1 | This plug is on my *old* stereo |
| 22:54.56 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.sennheiserusa.com/private_headphones_audiophile-headphones_005343 |
| 22:55.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Is my quality headset attached to my desktop |
| 22:55.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, headphones, not headset |
| 22:55.56 | Kraps | its my third one because my wheelchair likes breaking them :/ |
| 22:56.00 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 22:56.02 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah that happens |
| 22:56.20 | ScytheBlade1 | My chair has been responsible for the death of several cords on my old headphones |
| 22:56.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Luckily, the cord is detachable |
| 22:56.39 | Shirik | I found what was causing my problem |
| 22:56.56 | Shirik | the compiler determined my code was not flavorful enough |
| 22:56.57 | nicoli_s | was it fun to fix? |
| 22:57.11 | Shirik | I changed it without affecting the functionality at all |
| 22:57.14 | Shirik | just made it look different |
| 22:57.18 | Shirik | and it works now |
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| 23:00.38 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 23:00.40 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200850/Teenage-Facebook-party-street-brawl-sparks-raid-police-helicopter-dog-handlers.html |
| 23:00.46 | Lunessa | Nothing bad happened. |
| 23:00.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Why people think it is a good idea to advertise a party on facebook is beyond me |
| 23:01.08 | Shirik | funny thing |
| 23:01.23 | Shirik | my brother saw a new year's party he was going to go to get advertised on facebook |
| 23:01.27 | Shirik | and decided not to go because of it |
| 23:01.34 | Shirik | sure enough, cops showed up |
| 23:01.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol good for him |
| 23:01.49 | Shirik | I was surprised really; he's not the brightest person |
| 23:04.05 | ckknight | makes you just want to advertise a party on facebook just to see who would show up. |
| 23:04.12 | ckknight | note: and not go yourself |
| 23:04.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 23:04.29 | ckknight | just drop off two cases of beer an hour before |
| 23:04.33 | ckknight | and wait for a riot |
| 23:07.40 | Lunessa | ckknight: 2 cases? Cheap bastard. That would start the riot. |
| 23:07.47 | ckknight | ...precisely |
| 23:11.11 | Kraps | Time to get rid of the internet. It's far to dangerous. We survived long before it was around and will long after it's gone. |
| 23:11.13 | Kraps | - sub, london, 20/7/2009 6:55 |
| 23:11.33 | Kraps | ban the internet! its the only way to make britain great once again |
| 23:11.35 | Kraps | - Rob Francis, UK, NOT EU, 20/7/2009 5:35 |
| 23:11.49 | Arrowmaster | nah lets just go back to before eternal september |
| 23:12.38 | Lunessa | No, just let ME be the one who decides who gets to be on the internet or not. That mess should spur some development of some other network. |
| 23:13.07 | Dewin | Lunessa: Do you accept bribes? |
| 23:13.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Dewin: he does. |
| 23:13.29 | Lunessa | Large cash ones and sexual favors from attractive women. |
| 23:16.18 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 23:16.35 | ScytheBlade1 | So my friend was trying to find out why a page he had made was broken in my chrome, but worked fine in his |
| 23:16.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I was on version 2.0.xxx.xx |
| 23:16.51 | ScytheBlade1 | He was on 0.2.xxx.xx |
| 23:17.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't you really have to try to not install the google updater? |
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| 23:19.23 | Shirik | huh |
| 23:19.33 | Shirik | I just used a regex operator I've never used before |
| 23:19.36 | Shirik | ?? |
| 23:19.55 | ckknight | what's that, Shirik? |
| 23:20.09 | Shirik | it's a lazy ? |
| 23:20.13 | Kraps | wtf necro http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13275667854&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
| 23:20.21 | Shirik | so (foo)? would match foo 0 or 1 times, with preference to 1 |
| 23:20.29 | Shirik | (foo)?? would match foo 0 or 1 times with preference to 0 |
| 23:20.37 | Kraps | did he go back 30 pages to find this? |
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| 23:25.15 | ckknight | Shirik: interesting |
| 23:42.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: you've never used a non-greedy operator before? |
| 23:43.01 | Shirik | I have |
| 23:43.04 | Shirik | but not with ? |
| 23:43.15 | Shirik | Like I've seen/used +? and *? |
| 23:43.16 | Shirik | but never ?? |
| 23:43.17 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* it works with just about everything :P |
| 23:49.51 | ZorbaBeta | ?? does admittedly look kind of silly. |
| 23:50.01 | NightHawkTheSane | lots of regex looks kind of silly ;) |
| 23:50.21 | Industrial | win list |
| 23:50.24 | Industrial | ups |
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| 23:54.39 | ZorbaBeta | any time when you have the same character two times in a row, without escape codes but with completely different meanings for each character, something has gone badly wrong |
