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| 00:14.55 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/13997/if-you-re-reading-this-while-i-m-in-combat/ |
| 00:15.03 | Adys | tji, wow devs are 4channers |
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| 00:49.22 | Adys | pokes Mikk with a Stikk |
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| 00:54.14 | Shirik | pop quiz |
| 00:54.42 | Cairenn | pepsi, sprite, orange crush |
| 00:54.44 | Shirik | For a horizontal volume bar, which way should get louder, left or right? |
| 00:54.55 | Thunder_Child | right |
| 00:55.09 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Cairenn |
| 00:55.09 | purl | --purges Cairenn |
| 00:55.14 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 00:55.16 | foxlit | In the same direction as you usually read in. |
| 00:55.29 | Thunder_Child | you know 'The Byrds' sounds to much like 'The Beatles' |
| 00:55.43 | Shirik | Cairenn, answer question |
| 00:55.50 | Cairenn | I did :p |
| 00:55.56 | Shirik | foxlit: Interesting answer, but for this purpose, I'll assume "right" |
| 00:56.02 | Shirik | not really what I was trying to prove :P |
| 00:56.51 | Shirik | no you didn't Cairenn :( |
| 00:56.56 | Cairenn | yes I did |
| 00:57.00 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 00:57.06 | Thunder_Child | 'pop quiz' isnt a question |
| 00:58.56 | Cide | every sound volume slider goes right for higher |
| 00:58.57 | Cide | ever |
| 00:59.04 | Cairenn | typically |
| 00:59.16 | Cide | or up for vertical |
| 00:59.23 | Cairenn | that as well |
| 01:03.09 | Thunder_Child | it's prolly a legacy of the allegro musical notation |
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| 01:06.22 | Shirik | exactly |
| 01:06.29 | Shirik | so why the fuck does pandora's desktop app go left for louder |
| 01:07.03 | Cairenn | to keep you on your toes ... &/or to fuck with your brain |
| 01:10.11 | mikma | function DeathKnniggetThrobFunction (self, elapsed) |
| 01:10.13 | mikma | hehee |
| 01:10.39 | Thunder_Child | Knnigget? |
| 01:10.44 | Thunder_Child | feels racist |
| 01:11.37 | mikma | PlayerFrame.lua function DeathKnniggetThro Row 605 |
| 01:11.48 | mikma | go and see it |
| 01:15.42 | Mikk | prods Adys |
| 01:17.37 | Adys | rops Mikk |
| 01:18.12 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, this is so you http://www.crispygamer.com/comics/backward/backward-2009-04-24.aspx |
| 01:18.56 | Shirik | but |
| 01:18.58 | Shirik | I broke peggle |
| 01:21.10 | Shirik | fuck that |
| 01:21.17 | Shirik | stupid roomate |
| 01:21.19 | Shirik | going to kill him |
| 01:23.44 | Cruciformer | wowcruci |
| 01:23.53 | Cruciformer | hey everyone |
| 01:25.39 | Thunder_Child | please tell us thats not your password |
| 01:25.55 | Cruciformer | ummmm . no :) |
| 01:26.05 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 01:32.40 | Shirik | (18:32:22) - [notice from NickServ]: Cruciformer is not a registered nickname. |
| 01:32.41 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:33.08 | Cruciformer | odd i thought I had registered it |
| 01:35.06 | Cruciformer | it is now |
| 01:36.31 | Adys | I wrote my password by mistake in here once |
| 01:36.37 | Adys | i mean not only nickserv pw |
| 01:36.41 | Cairenn | everyone has |
| 01:36.45 | Adys | also gmail, wowwiki, mmoc and much more |
| 01:36.49 | Adys | also I never changed it. |
| 01:36.56 | Cairenn | you mean to say they're all the same? |
| 01:37.01 | Adys | yeah |
| 01:37.01 | Mikk | bad juju |
| 01:37.05 | Adys | which isnt much to say though |
| 01:37.12 | Adys | since they're all kept safe in my gmail account |
| 01:37.15 | Adys | in a label "passwords". |
| 01:37.20 | Mikk | hehehe |
| 01:37.43 | Mikk | my nickserv password is so shitty you wouldn't even notice if i wrote it in the channel |
| 01:37.49 | Adys | "cock" |
| 01:38.09 | Mikk | "Error: "cock" is too short." |
| 01:38.25 | Adys | "mom" |
| 01:38.29 | Adys | too large, damn. |
| 01:39.12 | Adys | [04:39:07] -NickServ- Invalid password for Mikk. |
| 01:39.13 | Adys | well |
| 01:39.16 | Adys | at least i tried. |
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| 01:50.03 | Mikk | adys you suck. you just mailed me the 5 ring AND 999g |
| 01:50.11 | Adys | fail |
| 01:54.08 | Cruciformer | sigh no way to change my password on wowprogramming. al well u can all make changes as me now :P |
| 01:57.44 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/q13846/ |
| 01:57.49 | Adys | deja vu |
| 02:00.07 | Cruciformer | Im getting nervous. my first mod is almost done and soon I will have to release the little abomination on the world at large. |
| 02:02.07 | Arrowmaster | ive never typed any passwords in irc by mistake but i have typed my wow password into an IM window before and sent it to a friend, luckly he asked why it looked familiar and i reminded him that he already knew it |
| 02:03.13 | Lukian | haha |
| 02:03.33 | Aqua | my buddy knows my wow password |
| 02:03.38 | Cruciformer | *shrug* this was the first time I typed a pw by mistake in about 15 years. Guess I was due. Not like I care if anyone knows my wowprogramming password really. |
| 02:03.39 | mikma | torhal: what was the talk about QTip and QTipClick combining? |
| 02:03.59 | Cruciformer | no-one knows any of my real (wow, gmail, pc, unix) passwords. |
| 02:04.51 | Adys | Cruciformer: I JUST HAKED U |
| 02:05.06 | Cruciformer | Adys: grats? |
| 02:05.12 | Adys | ty |
| 02:05.51 | Cruciformer | grrr this syncing code is giving me a ballache |
| 02:06.07 | Adys | Anyone bored? |
| 02:06.42 | Cruciformer | Adys: mildly, and I am procrastinating too. |
| 02:07.03 | Adys | I need to complete some tags |
| 02:07.17 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/tag/i/not-available/ and http://db.mmo-champion.com/tag/i/removed-from-game/ |
| 02:08.40 | Cruciformer | how an I help? |
| 02:08.51 | Cruciformer | s/an/can/ |
| 02:09.30 | Adys | Cruciformer: if you can think of/find items that would fit those categories |
| 02:09.34 | Adys | which I havent tagged |
| 02:10.13 | Cruciformer | that implies a far greater knowledge of wow items than I posses :/ |
| 02:10.40 | Cruciformer | if it aint in wotlk and it aint for a druid I dont know about it. |
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| 02:18.25 | Cruciformer | CST is GMT-6 right? |
| 02:18.56 | Arrowmaster | yeah, but its CDT now which is -5 |
| 02:18.57 | sacarasc | Yes, but CDT or whatever is -5. |
| 02:19.07 | sacarasc | high fives Arrowmaster. |
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| 02:23.52 | Cruciformer | I need something good to read |
| 02:24.54 | Kraps | james rollins |
| 02:25.16 | Cruciformer | what kind of litterature? |
| 02:26.24 | Kraps | action/thriller with dan brown type stuff, but better |
| 02:26.55 | Cruciformer | ah ok, coz dan brown is the most monochromatic author ive read in a while. all his books are the same. |
| 02:27.37 | Cruciformer | I wonder if robert ludlum is still writing, I used to enjoy his books a bunch |
| 02:28.34 | Kraps | http://www.jamesrollins.com/books/sigma_series |
| 02:28.48 | Cruciformer | oh. ludlum is dead. bummer. |
| 02:29.01 | Cruciformer | Kraps: ty I will check them out at the bookstore tomorrow. |
| 02:29.46 | Torhal | mikma: They kinda did and kinda didn't. |
| 02:30.07 | Zhinjio | van lustbader picked up the torch to keep the bourne series going, at least |
| 02:30.16 | Kraps | Cruciformer: ya, i'm talking about this series specifically, dunno about his other books |
| 02:30.28 | mikma | torhal: well, atleast it ain't in wowace ^^ |
| 02:30.47 | Torhal | mikma: QTip has clickies now, but it's done differently - SetCellScript(), SetLineScript(), SetColumnScript() |
| 02:30.49 | Cruciformer | Zhinjio: thre were more than 4 of them? I stopped after the 4th didntthink it could go much further. |
| 02:30.52 | Torhal | mikma: Not in wowace? |
| 02:31.08 | Adys | Maldivia: ping |
| 02:34.46 | mikma | torhal: ah :P |
| 02:35.16 | Cruciformer | kraps: Do you do sci-fi? |
| 02:35.43 | Kraps | Cruciformer: yes, but i dont know any really |
| 02:36.11 | Cruciformer | Kraps: check out Hyperion by Dan Simmons if you are looking for something to read. he is a monstrously good author. |
| 02:37.19 | Kraps | anyone here use a service like http://www.booksfree.com/ ? |
| 02:41.50 | Thunder_Child | no, i like to keep my books |
| 02:42.38 | Thunder_Child | while i see you can keep it, it prolly isnt new |
| 02:43.28 | Kraps | hmm? |
| 02:44.26 | Thunder_Child | i'm sorry but 'hmm?' does not convey anything i can use to respond with |
| 02:46.40 | Kraps | [10:42:43]<Thunder_Child>while i see you can keep it, it prolly isnt new |
| 02:47.36 | Thunder_Child | is it really that hard to say what you dont understand? |
| 02:47.53 | Kraps | watching a movie |
| 02:47.57 | Kraps | sry |
| 02:48.14 | Thunder_Child | no worries, watch first, talk later |
| 02:50.09 | Kraps | i dont really need to keep books, just read em |
| 02:56.39 | Shirik | sounds like Thunder_Child is that guy from i.Robot |
| 02:56.55 | Shirik | my responses are limited |
| 02:58.44 | kd3 | http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/4792/suzumiyascene.jpg |
| 02:58.45 | kd3 | ^ |
| 02:58.46 | kd3 | ^^^^^ |
| 02:59.27 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, please keep your sanity with specified peramiters |
| 03:02.05 | NightHawkTheSane | feels kind of stupid naming this sql column 'attackDefense' |
| 03:03.04 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: what are the perimeters? |
| 03:03.25 | Shirik | they're like parameters, but around the edges of a function |
| 03:03.29 | Shirik | instead of at the front |
| 03:04.04 | Thunder_Child | the perimiters ar the 2 sides of the bell curve |
| 03:04.09 | Thunder_Child | are* |
| 03:04.52 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/tag/i/trading-card-game/ |
| 03:04.56 | Adys | can anyone think of more? |
| 03:05.07 | Cide | what's with the weird urls? |
| 03:05.14 | Adys | what weird urls? |
| 03:05.20 | Cide | /tag/**i**/<name> |
| 03:05.25 | Adys | thats for item |
| 03:05.58 | Cide | ah |
| 03:06.04 | Cide | personally I'd just make sure they were unique |
| 03:06.12 | Adys | its a further filter |
| 03:06.18 | Adys | i can have an identical tag on items and quests |
| 03:06.34 | Adys | the whole /i/ /q/ etc in the url bullshit is while i dont have tabview coded |
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| 03:59.13 | Arrowmaster | kd3: haha |
| 04:03.57 | kd3 | whee. someone finally saw it |
| 04:05.07 | Arrowmaster | i havent been watching the new series/reshowing |
| 04:05.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I saw it |
| 04:05.21 | ScytheBlade1 | It just made no sense |
| 04:06.19 | Arrowmaster | but i do know whats been going on with the series so i understand |
| 04:32.57 | Kraps | boyz n the hood fo real |
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| 04:47.38 | ccox | Grrr, why can't LFG show you lower level dungeons - like those you missed running when you were leveling and want to see before trying to do the heroic. |
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| 04:51.59 | Kraps | ccox: yeah thats one of its failings |
| 04:53.58 | ccox | hmm, I think I see a way to queue myself from lua (but not browse). But it's enough of a hack that I'm sure Blizz would frown upon it. |
| 05:04.01 | Arrowmaster | somebody mentioned they were able to browse but not queue by editing a .dbc file in an .mpq, but thats deffently frowned upon |
| 05:04.02 | Thunder_Child | uhh....VNSFW http://www.muchosucko.com/show/terradactyl_porn-13771 |
| 05:04.09 | Thunder_Child | fuck you rule 34 |
| 05:04.16 | Arrowmaster | lmao |
| 05:04.26 | Arrowmaster | do you have any idea how old that is |
| 05:04.35 | Thunder_Child | 3 years |
| 05:04.43 | Arrowmaster | i thought everybody knew about that |
| 05:05.01 | Arrowmaster | older than that |
| 05:05.47 | Thunder_Child | i'm not much on extinct bestiality |
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| 05:20.37 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:20.39 | Shirik | new favorite song |
| 05:20.43 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX_PLimGeHk |
| 05:20.46 | Shirik | epic |
| 05:21.54 | Thunder_Child | song or video? |
| 05:22.04 | Shirik | song |
| 05:23.43 | Thunder_Child | it's ok, but this is epic, litteraly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4N-Mjf9GD4 |
| 05:24.18 | Shirik | nono Thunder_Child |
| 05:24.34 | Thunder_Child | make sure you get to at least 1:00 |
| 05:25.03 | Shirik | this is epic, Thunder_Child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfLtA8SkmVw&feature=fvw |
| 05:25.06 | Shirik | literally |
| 05:25.13 | Shirik | if you don't believe me, read the title |
| 05:25.44 | Thunder_Child | i saw that |
| 05:25.50 | Thunder_Child | not a big fan of theirs |
| 05:26.09 | Thunder_Child | i prefer nightwish for that style |
| 05:26.58 | Shirik | Thunder_Child, I recognize that song |
| 05:27.04 | Shirik | at least the background |
| 05:27.08 | Shirik | as something I've played before |
| 05:27.13 | Shirik | I wish I knew what it was |
| 05:27.21 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, you mean what i linked? |
| 05:27.23 | Shirik | yes |
| 05:27.30 | Shirik | it sounds like it was taken from something else |
| 05:27.31 | Shirik | very old |
| 05:27.35 | Thunder_Child | it was in the trailer for the crysis xpac |
| 05:27.36 | Shirik | like 1500s era |
| 05:27.38 | Thunder_Child | oh...dunno then |
| 05:27.42 | Thunder_Child | yesi do |
| 05:27.46 | Thunder_Child | no i dont |
| 05:27.56 | Thunder_Child | i was thinking of another song |
| 05:28.02 | Shirik | yes yes |
| 05:28.02 | Shirik | I know |
| 05:28.04 | Shirik | it's a piano song |
| 05:28.42 | Shirik | something by beethoven |
| 05:29.23 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah that sounds classical, im sure ive heard it before |
| 05:29.59 | Shirik | I know what song it is |
| 05:30.04 | Shirik | I just don't know the title |
| 05:30.07 | Shirik | I could sing it for you |
| 05:32.16 | Thunder_Child | i was origionaly thinking of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkObnNQCMtM it was in homeworld |
| 05:32.19 | Thunder_Child | great song |
| 05:33.22 | Thunder_Child | well the homeworld one sounds much better |
| 05:33.39 | Thunder_Child | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIUxwEJ-GXI thats better |
| 05:33.59 | Fisker | rages |
| 05:34.50 | Thunder_Child | they need another homeworld game |
| 05:35.48 | Fisker | we need another freelancer game |
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| 05:36.33 | Thunder_Child | that was a very boring game |
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| 05:38.17 | Fisker | no |
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| 05:40.19 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9XkdAB2FA4&feature=related epicest |
| 05:43.05 | Fisker | prepare to be slapped |
| 05:43.07 | Fisker | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:43.19 | Thunder_Child | sneezes in Fisker's face |
| 05:43.45 | Fisker | likes |
| 05:43.56 | Thunder_Child | slaps Fisker around with a Riemann rearrangement theorem |
| 05:44.12 | Fisker | likes |
| 05:44.25 | Kraps | parrys Fisker's slap and gibs him for over 9000 damage |
| 05:46.50 | Thunder_Child | is there something that does the same as gspot but works with mkv's? |
| 05:50.13 | Thunder_Child | not bad Kraps, but it doesnt really give me that epic feeling. would need to be fast imo |
| 05:50.15 | Thunder_Child | faster* |
| 05:50.31 | Arrowmaster | http://forum.doom9.org/archive/index.php/t-134667.html |
| 05:51.05 | Thunder_Child | spank you very much Arrowmaster |
| 05:51.09 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qf-aAVxE8s&feature=related |
| 05:54.01 | Thunder_Child | Kraps, A. i meant the remix faster and B. it's really iritating to listen to a song about violins and not hear many, if any at all. |
| 05:54.14 | Kraps | lulz |
| 05:56.06 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXhx40DcU6Y |
| 05:56.57 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: also theres avdump which can probably give you info on any file you throw at it, but its cli |
| 05:57.25 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, cli? |
| 05:57.36 | Arrowmaster | command line |
| 05:57.42 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 05:58.52 | Arrowmaster | oh there is a gui |
| 06:00.05 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwaNiikdQ8E |
| 06:00.40 | Kraps | ^ is cool even if you dont like pop |
| 06:02.02 | Thunder_Child | that is rather well done |
| 06:02.54 | Kraps | lemme link the better one by the same guy |
| 06:03.06 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLaZ-8IMtt0&feature=response_watch |
| 06:04.57 | Kraps | more seamless |
| 06:08.27 | Kraps | any tank have a problem using this build in 5 mans? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#LVZhxZVItrg0didIzsGo |
| 06:15.09 | Kraps | heres something mind-bending http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g&feature=channel_page |
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| 06:23.18 | Thunder_Child | slaps Fisker around with a pink Macintosh |
| 06:29.52 | Zhinjio | is there an addon that does direct item to item comparison using EJ's EP itemization multiplier values? |
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| 06:44.22 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyYaPWasos&feature=PlayList&p=tFZnpTzVqIo |
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| 06:56.58 | Fisker | lol |
| 06:57.13 | Fisker | viewer discretion is adviced |
| 06:57.19 | Fisker | QQ moar google |
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| 07:18.25 | Wobin | hm |
| 07:18.32 | Wobin | that flamewar video |
| 07:18.44 | Wobin | I... never would have classified -any- of that as a 'flamewar' =P |
| 07:18.54 | Wobin | just your usual forum commentary =P |
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| 07:32.55 | Thunder_Child | well, i get 3 free games with my new video card, thats not bad |
| 07:33.44 | Wobin | are they any -good- though? |
| 07:34.06 | Thunder_Child | CoD: WaW, Terminator Salv, and Cryostatis |
| 07:34.26 | Thunder_Child | Cryostasis* |
| 07:34.48 | Arrowmaster | i only got WaW with mine |
| 07:35.12 | Fisker | i'm sorry to hear that Thunder_Child |
| 07:35.27 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, was it an EVGA? |
| 07:35.34 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 07:35.39 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, http://www.evga.com/articles/00471/ |
| 07:37.08 | Arrowmaster | wonder if it runs under wine |
| 07:37.16 | Thunder_Child | *srhug* |
| 07:37.38 | Fisker | :3? |
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| 07:41.56 | Fisker | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=18698000106&sid=3000#5 <-successful troll |
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| 07:47.30 | Conexion | I'm reading through some of the WoW XML/Lua files, and I can't seem to figure how radio buttons work . . . could anyone point me in a direction where I might be able to figure it out? |
| 07:48.12 | Thunder_Child | ~pil |
| 07:48.13 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 07:48.16 | Thunder_Child | maybe |
| 07:48.41 | Thunder_Child | not sure if there is soemthing similar for XML |
| 07:48.47 | Thunder_Child | something* |
| 07:49.12 | Conexion | Well, I have the book World of Warcraft Programming and that doesn't mention it. There is no reason Lua would have a tutorial on it because it is a part of the WoW API |
| 07:50.34 | Conexion | In particular there is a frame described in UIPanelTemplates.xml/lua called UIRadioButtonTemplate |
| 07:51.33 | Thunder_Child | Conexion, http://www.xmlfiles.com/xml/xml_intro.asp maybe |
| 07:51.46 | Thunder_Child | it was linked from http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_user_interface |
| 07:53.36 | Conexion | Well I know how to read the XML template, I'm more or less looking at how, once I create a Radio Template, how I use the WoW API and Lua to check what the user has selected, and if WoW checks each frame to make sure not more than one is chosen |
| 07:54.52 | Conexion | I do appreciate the help, but I my issue doesn't have to do with XML or Lua, more, how WoW uses their own template and how to get information from it |
| 07:54.55 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, and i have to admit from what i gather the general feeling around he is something along the lines of XML sucks. |
| 07:55.04 | Thunder_Child | here* |
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| 08:08.32 | msoul | Warning: overwriting aucsimpledata with auc-advanced something |
| 08:09.03 | msoul | not sure if i understood it.... |
| 08:09.58 | msoul | brb |
| 08:12.10 | Recluse | Could anyone tell me if this (it's short) method is the proper way to add timestamps to chat? http://recluse.pastey.net/117783 |
| 08:14.09 | tekkub | no |
| 08:14.29 | Recluse | heh, bad practice? |
| 08:15.05 | tekkub | there's more than one chatframe |
| 08:15.21 | Recluse | Well, yes. But this is to just add them to the first one (personal use) |
| 08:15.27 | tekkub | also there are the filters now, but they won't work for *every* message added to the frames |
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| 08:17.25 | Recluse | My code there won't break anything, will it? I know it does work currently, but I wouldn't want my method to be screwing with any other potential addon is all. |
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| 08:22.23 | Fisker | 40 minutes |
| 08:22.25 | Fisker | zomg |
| 08:22.43 | Recluse | What happens in 40m? |
| 08:22.49 | Fisker | the world ends |
| 08:22.53 | Recluse | lol |
| 08:23.28 | Fisker | i also just won a game of Heroes of Newerth |
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| 08:26.10 | industrial | lol nerd Fisker |
| 08:26.41 | industrial | bbl bolting my new HD to my case :p |
| 08:27.03 | industrial | s/D/DD/ |
| 08:27.16 | Bruners | bolting? |
| 08:27.59 | Slafsinator | nailgun + HDD + case = secure and tight fit! |
| 08:28.09 | cbreak | I got an external sata disk case with usb and esata support. |
| 08:28.15 | cbreak | it allows easy change of disk |
| 08:28.25 | cbreak | so it's essentially an sata "drive" |
| 08:28.41 | cbreak | with hard disks as medium. very nice for backups :) |
| 08:28.44 | Bruners | esata support? never seen those |
| 08:28.46 | industrial | my case HDD's have these 'sleds' that you can put on the side of the disk instead of screws so you can slide the disk in |
| 08:28.57 | industrial | but my new HDD vibrates too much, it makes noise |
| 08:29.05 | cbreak | the ones internal to my computer have sleds too |
| 08:29.09 | industrial | so I'll have to screw it on anyway :< |
| 08:29.30 | cbreak | but the external case doesn't need any. I can just put a disk in, use it, take it out, and put an other in |
| 08:29.44 | Fisker | why so nerd industrial? |
| 08:30.13 | industrial | Fisker: my life for Aiur! |
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| 08:35.15 | Fisker | my life for industrial |
| 08:42.59 | Fisker | why won't you love me industrial ? |
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| 08:44.14 | Lunessa | station |
| 08:44.19 | Fisker | no |
| 08:44.23 | Lunessa | no u |
| 08:44.56 | Lunessa | Don't you people ever sleep? |
| 08:45.21 | Fisker | i wish |
| 08:46.21 | Conexion | The nocturnal among us do :p otherwise nope |
| 08:46.56 | Lunessa | Sleep is for normal people. |
| 08:53.59 | Taroven | So, quick question with a potentially complicated answer. |
| 08:55.00 | Fisker | that wasn't quick |
| 08:55.16 | Taroven | Interrupted. =P |
| 08:55.37 | Slafsinator | Wall of text question incoming |
| 08:56.53 | Taroven | Damn, just answered myself actually. |
| 08:57.13 | Taroven | But just for shits and grins: Table vs global var, which wins? |
| 08:57.32 | Lunessa | Wins how? |
| 08:57.38 | Taroven | Performance-wise. |
| 08:57.47 | Lunessa | Which aspect? |
| 08:57.53 | Fisker | dun dun dun |
| 08:57.57 | Taroven | But then I realized the global var in this addon's case is a table anyway, so in the end it doesn't matter. |
| 08:58.27 | Taroven | (not addon of my own for once) |
| 08:59.38 | Fisker | 1 minute |
| 08:59.57 | Conexion | Lua is horrible for speed anyways :p but I say global |
| 09:00.10 | Fisker | s/Lua/LUA/ |
| 09:00.22 | Cruciformer | Conexion: horrible for speed? Are you on crak? |
| 09:00.42 | Conexion | Generally, I've noticed in other languages that globals are able to be accessed faster |
| 09:00.55 | Lunessa | bah - for anything we're doing with it in WoW - speed is way more than we can ever really need. |
| 09:01.17 | Conexion | Not at all. Any scripted language where it figures out what datatypes you have for you is always going to be slower |
| 09:01.42 | Lunessa | People who complain that lua is slow in WoW are "doin it rong" |
| 09:01.42 | Conexion | I'm talking about slow compared to other languages :p it is plenty fine for WoW, but in general it is a slow language |
| 09:01.58 | Cruciformer | Conexion: leaving speed in teh realm of scripted languages for a second, since they are obviously going to be slower, what scripted language do youthink is faster? |
| 09:02.05 | Conexion | Lua shouldn't slow down WoW at all |
| 09:02.21 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 09:02.35 | Arrowmaster | since every frame draw has to wait for all OnUpdates to finish |
| 09:02.41 | Conexion | Eh, I'm not a huge fan of scripted languages at all, but in general I'm more of a Python guy than a lua |
| 09:02.47 | Conexion | That's assuming you use OnUpdate :p |
| 09:02.59 | Cruciformer | Lua is considerably faster than Python. |
| 09:03.10 | Cruciformer | I will try find you the benchmark URL toprove it ... one sec. |
| 09:03.11 | Wobin | lua is also single threaded |
| 09:03.17 | Arrowmaster | even events cause the frame draws to be slower |
| 09:03.20 | Conexion | Oh, no need to Cruciformer , I believe you |
| 09:03.21 | Wobin | so you can basically -stop- WoW running with an addon |
| 09:04.11 | Cruciformer | http://www.timestretch.com/FractalBenchmark.html as an example |
| 09:04.20 | Arrowmaster | lua is probably the fastest of the main stream scripting languages thats still powerful enough on its own to be useful |
| 09:04.31 | Conexion | I haven't had a need to compare them speed wise, I'm just saying compared to languages I'm more familiar with - C, Asm, etc |
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| 09:04.46 | Conexion | But you can't really compare those to Lua |
| 09:04.54 | Arrowmaster | although perl isnt very slow either, not sure how perl and lua compare |
| 09:05.09 | Lunessa | Compiled languages will ALWAYS be faster than interpreted ones. |
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| 09:05.14 | Arrowmaster | but python ruby and java are all perty slow |
| 09:05.23 | Cruciformer | well of *COURSE* C and assembly is faster than lua, thats not really saying much. But then you are comparing a Ferarri to a origami bicycle. Not the same comparison at all. |
| 09:05.44 | Conexion | Haha, I know that :p |
| 09:05.52 | Cruciformer | then why did you? :P |
| 09:05.59 | Lunessa | It's all that crack he's smoking. |
| 09:06.14 | Cruciformer | Lunessa: STATION! |
| 09:06.20 | Lunessa | station |
| 09:06.23 | Conexion | Hah, well we were talking about accessing globals vs tables |
| 09:06.40 | Cruciformer | well since C has no tables, you cant compare that. |
| 09:06.55 | Conexion | Well, Tables are essentially dolled up arrays |
| 09:07.08 | Lunessa | No, not really. |
| 09:07.16 | Cruciformer | and acessing an array is no slower than accessing a global in C, they are identical. |
| 09:08.12 | Conexion | From what I understand a table is just an array with words representing the pointers instead of numbers |
| 09:08.41 | Lunessa | Haste's comments always make me laugh. " We do this because people edit the vars directly, and changing the default globals makes SPICE FLOW!" |
| 09:09.40 | Conexion | Also, accessing an array should in theory take longer on compile than a global, but on runtime they're identical |
| 09:10.03 | Arrowmaster | Conexion: you have one major thing wrong |
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| 09:10.21 | Arrowmaster | you are comparing apples to oranges |
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| 09:10.44 | Conexion | I'm not comparing C to Lua |
| 09:10.59 | Arrowmaster | you could be comparing accessing a global to accessing a value in a table thats being accessed by a global |
| 09:11.22 | Conexion | well I'm trying to understand tables at this point |
| 09:11.23 | Arrowmaster | or comparing accessing a global to accessing a value in a table thats being accessed by a local |
| 09:11.32 | Conexion | and how I can relate them back to something I do understand |
| 09:11.39 | Lunessa | which explains why you called it a "dolled up array." |
| 09:11.41 | Arrowmaster | you always have to lookup the table first |
| 09:11.59 | Conexion | That's why I was thinking it would be slower |
| 09:12.06 | Conexion | because you have to look at the table to give you the pointer first |
| 09:12.29 | Arrowmaster | no you have to lookup the var that contains the table first |
| 09:13.08 | Cruciformer | in Lua all globals are in the _G table anyway ... solooking up _G[variable] versus mytable[variable] will likely be identical in speed, I think. |
| 09:13.17 | Arrowmaster | no no no |
| 09:13.28 | Arrowmaster | thats even worse unless you do it properly |
| 09:13.40 | Conexion | Ah, so we basically have Var > Table > Data Point? |
| 09:13.53 | Conexion | (the > are arrows here :P ) |
| 09:14.07 | Conexion | (should've done -> ) |
| 09:14.20 | Arrowmaster | if you do it imporperly you are looking up the global _G, then looking up the value in that table which would be slower than looking up the global itself normally |
| 09:14.38 | Taroven | That makes sense. |
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| 09:15.10 | Arrowmaster | now if you make _G a local first, then looking up _G then a value in _G would be faster than looking up a global |
| 09:15.15 | Conexion | whoops |
| 09:15.41 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster: every Lua file I have has local _G=_G at the top |
| 09:15.51 | Taroven | Huh. So basically, if dealing with a lot of globals, local _G = _G? |
| 09:16.02 | Arrowmaster | and mine have local _G = getfenv(0) |
| 09:16.19 | Taroven | What's genfenv? |
| 09:16.25 | Taroven | *getfenv |
| 09:16.27 | Arrowmaster | get function enviroment |
| 09:16.30 | Taroven | Ah. |
| 09:16.43 | Taroven | Bout the same thing? |
| 09:17.13 | Conexion | Any speed difference between coding in pure lua vs interfacing in XML and handling logic in lua? |
| 09:17.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah with 0 as the arg, but the function call is slower so you dont want to call the function more than once |
| 09:17.29 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 09:18.00 | haste | Lunessa: I was playing Dune before I fixed that one :3 |
| 09:18.02 | Arrowmaster | script handlers in XML cause everything to be wraped in two closures |
| 09:18.35 | Lunessa | haste I also liked -- need | -- new | -- colors | |
| 09:18.45 | Conexion | So I'm assuming pure lua is faster? |
| 09:18.48 | haste | they look horrible :( |
| 09:18.56 | haste | Arrowmaster: that's not exactly true now tho' |
| 09:19.15 | Taroven | Speaking of XML. |
| 09:19.32 | haste | <OnUpdate function="TemporaryEnchantFrame_OnUpdate"/> |
| 09:19.39 | Taroven | Is there any way to set a custom frame template via pure lua? |
| 09:19.52 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 09:19.58 | Taroven | Drat. |
| 09:20.01 | haste | CreateFram(type, name, parent, template) |
| 09:20.02 | Arrowmaster | you cant create templates in lua |
| 09:20.08 | haste | but you can't create the templates in lua |
| 09:20.08 | Lunessa | haste it was just funny is all, like I used to put comment blocks on critical files at one job /* don't fuck with this if you don't know what it means. */ |
| 09:20.13 | Arrowmaster | you can use them but not create them |
| 09:20.45 | haste | Lunessa: putting comments is one of the things I'm trying to get better at :p |
| 09:21.01 | haste | so I might as well make them interesting |
| 09:21.15 | Lunessa | I wish more people did. It helps when I'm reading you code at 4:30 in the morning. |
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| 09:23.49 | Wobin | winterfest! http://www.flickr.com/photos/30938059@N08/sets/72157621673564958/ |
| 09:24.29 | Lunessa | Oh, happy something day there Wobin. |
| 09:24.38 | Wobin | thank you Lunessa |
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| 09:40.08 | Rincewind` | ZorbaBeta: ping |
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| 09:44.29 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:46.32 | Aelobin | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:48.04 | Fisker | slaps Aelobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:48.12 | Aelobin | oh no you didn't |
| 09:48.33 | TopTop18 | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:50.11 | cbreak | give me that trout, I am hungry |
| 09:51.34 | Aelobin | hope you like battered trout xD |
| 09:52.02 | TopTop18 | *gives trout to cbreak* |
| 09:52.24 | Fisker | slaps TopTop18 around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:53.01 | Wobin | Aelobin: beer battered? |
| 09:53.15 | Aelobin | what's that O_o |
| 09:53.32 | Wobin | they make the batter they dip the fish into, out of beer |
| 09:53.43 | Wobin | It's nummy |
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| 09:58.45 | Wobin | wow |
| 09:58.54 | Wobin | a phone with a 1.5 -month- standby time |
| 09:59.17 | Wobin | no 3G though |
| 09:59.21 | Cruciformer | Wobin: I bet you $1000 its not made by Apple :) |
| 09:59.29 | Wobin | hehe Phillips |
| 09:59.39 | Wobin | http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/07/17/philips-xenium-x830-appears-in-official-photos/ |
| 09:59.49 | Cruciformer | with apple phones you are lucky to get 1.5 HOURS standby :P |
| 10:00.27 | Wobin | so true =( |
| 10:01.14 | Cruciformer | sexy phones tho, I still ike them despite them being more power hungry than China and India combined. |
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| 10:18.52 | Aelobin | lulz |
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| 10:49.10 | Aelobin | i thought Pet Bombling was meant to be goblin specific O_o |
| 10:49.40 | mikma | http://www.mmowned.com/forums/wow-exploits/247653-epic-kill-everyone-your-city.html |
| 10:52.15 | Aelobin | title is an exaggeration :< |
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| 10:53.43 | Wobin | somewhat =P |
| 10:54.30 | mikma | EPIC |
| 10:54.42 | Cruciformer | pet bombling? sounds distusting. Not sure I want to bomble a pet. sounds like it means analingus on tippy-toes or something. |
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| 10:55.12 | Wobin | Your mind moves in mysterious ways, Cruciformer |
| 10:55.43 | Cruciformer | sorry :) |
| 10:55.56 | Cruciformer | but wtf *is* pet bombling? |
| 10:56.27 | Wobin | "A pet bombling" |
| 10:56.34 | Wobin | a bomb |
| 10:56.36 | Wobin | as a pet |
| 10:56.37 | Cruciformer | ooooooooh |
| 10:56.40 | Wobin | and it is small |
| 10:56.52 | Cruciformer | if you'd put "A" in yur originals entence I woulda got that. i thought it was a skill. |
| 10:57.08 | Wobin | blames Aelobin |
| 10:57.22 | Cruciformer | I mean Aelobin yeah |
| 10:57.43 | Aelobin | O_o |
| 10:57.49 | Aelobin | crazy mind you got there Cruciformer |
| 10:57.54 | Cruciformer | the way it was originally phrased does lend itself to misinterpretation :) |
| 10:58.04 | Wobin | ahaha http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/19/2629864.htm |
| 10:58.11 | Wobin | "home wrecker" =P |
| 11:05.38 | Aelobin | hats BFD. |
| 11:05.42 | Aelobin | *hates :< |
| 11:07.20 | Cruciformer | BFD? As in teh GNU multi-arch library? |
| 11:08.00 | haste | as in the instance |
| 11:08.45 | Aelobin | the most annoying instance bar gnomeregan |
| 11:08.55 | Wobin | wow |
| 11:08.58 | Cruciformer | ah. Its been so long since I ran BFD it doesnt even occur to me to think of that acronym as an instance. |
| 11:09.01 | Wobin | I haven't been into BFD for so long now |
| 11:09.09 | Wobin | it always gets skipped |
| 11:09.24 | Wobin | cause you never remember about it til you're well over level |
| 11:09.27 | Cruciformer | I knew no better when I was leveling and ran it countless times |
| 11:10.31 | Cruciformer | that room with all the turtles made my toenails retract. gated it. |
| 11:10.37 | Cruciformer | *hated |
| 11:14.13 | Aelobin | was just doing it for class dungeonmaster achi ^^ |
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| 11:19.53 | Aelobin | has ZA / Gruul / Maggy always been 68/65+ ? |
| 11:20.47 | Cruciformer | I always thought ZA was 70 since it came out after BC. |
| 11:21.35 | Cruciformer | they may have redued it though. *shrug* |
| 11:23.19 | Cruciformer | ttfn. gonna go enjoy some lamb on the spit with yummy tzatziki sauce. |
| 11:24.08 | industrial | :-O |
| 11:24.50 | Wobin | =( |
| 11:24.57 | Wobin | now I have cravings |
| 11:25.13 | Cruciformer | sorry :) |
| 11:25.21 | Cruciformer | i can fedex u some if u like :) |
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| 11:30.15 | Wobin | yay! |
| 11:32.15 | jnwhiteh | Cruciformer: ping |
| 11:32.17 | jnwhiteh | see: PMs |
| 11:35.00 | mikma | hmmm |
| 11:35.07 | mikma | yesterday was a good day |
| 11:35.17 | mikma | voa10 + 25 achievements for mah horde |
| 11:35.28 | jnwhiteh | heh gz |
| 11:36.06 | Dagmar | 2 from BiS pants for me |
| 11:36.56 | Dagmar | I half wonder if I went dressed in all greens would Ulduar only drop hunter mail |
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| 12:07.13 | Aelobin | does the 5% passive from Improved Icy Talons stack with the 20% from Icy Talons? |
| 12:08.48 | Wobin | It -says- "In addition" and applys a separate effect, but I couldn't say for sure |
| 12:09.16 | Aelobin | hmm good point |
| 12:09.47 | bluspacecow | hai wobin |
| 12:09.54 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:09.59 | Wobin | Hai Mr Cow |
| 12:10.20 | bluspacecow | MOO! |
| 12:10.25 | bluspacecow | ~moo |
| 12:10.25 | purl | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
| 12:10.38 | bluspacecow | :D |
| 12:12.31 | Wobin | what happened to the first orb? =( |
| 12:13.14 | bluspacecow | there's a lady whose sure ... all the glitters is gold ... |
| 12:25.07 | jnwhiteh | Cide: You playing HoN? |
| 12:25.26 | Cide | yes, join |
| 12:25.46 | jnwhiteh | i'm loading now. |
| 12:25.55 | bluspacecow | *sigh* |
| 12:26.27 | bluspacecow | anothor special person saying the use of MPQ editors/extractors/readers are against the TOS |
| 12:27.29 | jnwhiteh | Cide: all heros are disabled for me? |
| 12:27.34 | Cide | it's not your turn to pick |
| 12:27.41 | bluspacecow | HoN ? |
| 12:27.41 | jnwhiteh | oh, gotcha |
| 12:27.47 | jnwhiteh | haven't done SD yet |
| 12:27.47 | Cide | it's doing 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1 |
| 12:27.48 | jnwhiteh | only RD |
| 12:27.54 | Cide | this is rd |
| 12:27.58 | jnwhiteh | oh.. heh |
| 12:27.58 | Cide | but I think they changed it in the latest patch |
| 12:27.58 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 12:28.35 | Wobin | goddamn you bluspacecow |
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| 12:28.42 | Cide | the interface for this mode is pretty confusing I think |
| 12:28.43 | Wobin | Now I have stairway stuck in my head =( |
| 12:28.45 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 12:28.46 | bluspacecow | hmm ? |
| 12:28.47 | Cide | difficult to see what's going on |
| 12:28.54 | jnwhiteh | the clicking ready ALWAYS confuses people too |
| 12:29.04 | bluspacecow | heh heh heh my work is done :D |
| 12:29.04 | Cide | indeed |
| 12:29.57 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: HoN? |
| 12:30.19 | bluspacecow | Cide and jnwhiteh wot game you playing |
| 12:30.23 | Cide | HoN, yes |
| 12:30.32 | bluspacecow | "Coming from the land of ice and snow ...." |
| 12:30.42 | Wobin | heroes of newerth? |
| 12:31.26 | Wobin | looks a little chaotic |
| 12:31.31 | Wobin | (with weird voice acting) |
| 12:31.35 | bluspacecow | People are well served to be paranoid a bit, there's a ton of mpq editors out there, and that's part of the reason why people are told to NOT use private servers, as some jerk can easily put malicious code into an MPQ file and toss it on your computer through a "patch" |
| 12:31.40 | bluspacecow | :facepalm: |
| 12:31.48 | Wobin | oh yeah |
| 12:31.56 | Wobin | I regularly download 'patches' from random locations |
| 12:32.04 | bluspacecow | hehehe |
| 12:32.21 | bluspacecow | Blizzard downloader does a checksum on it before installing |
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| 12:35.22 | Fisker | Cide and jnwhiteh |
| 12:35.25 | Fisker | reported for breaking the NDA |
| 12:35.28 | Fisker | gj |
| 12:35.45 | Wobin | aw |
| 12:35.54 | Wobin | Capacity: Invite limit reached. Sorry |
| 12:35.59 | Cide | nope |
| 12:36.10 | Wobin | it's true, they never said anything =P |
| 12:36.53 | Wobin | it's only through the power of Google did I discover the FB link to the whole thing =P |
| 12:37.02 | bluspacecow | FBI link ? |
| 12:37.04 | bluspacecow | nooooo |
| 12:37.09 | bluspacecow | how did they discover me |
| 12:37.14 | bluspacecow | *hides the stash* |
| 12:37.19 | Wobin | It was the porn |
| 12:37.24 | Wobin | They like your taste |
| 12:37.47 | Fisker | you're reported too Wobin |
| 12:37.56 | bluspacecow | ~fish fisker |
| 12:37.57 | purl | ACTION slaps fisker around with a large trout |
| 12:38.09 | Fisker | ~roulette |
| 12:38.09 | purl | ACTION watches fisker pull the trigger: Click! |
| 12:38.11 | Wobin | Fisker: I haven't joined, therefore I am not constrained by any spurious NDA |
| 12:38.23 | Wobin | reported for breaking the NDA, Fisker =P |
| 12:38.25 | bluspacecow | you forgot the username at the end fisker |
| 12:38.33 | bluspacecow | ~roulette Bluspacecow |
| 12:38.34 | purl | ACTION watches Bluspacecow pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 12:38.37 | bluspacecow | see ! |
| 12:38.39 | Fisker | I've not broken any NDA Wobin :o |
| 12:38.41 | bluspacecow | oh wait |
| 12:39.06 | bluspacecow | *dramatically does a "oh noes I've been shot" dance* |
| 12:39.11 | bluspacecow | ooooo im dead dead dead |
| 12:39.17 | bluspacecow | *DONK* |
| 12:40.03 | Wobin | Fisker: Neither have I =P |
| 12:40.13 | Wobin | But that didn't stop -you- from reporting me =P |
| 12:42.29 | Fisker | oh but you would've broken the NDA if you were bound by said NDA |
| 12:42.34 | Fisker | Whereas i wouldn't |
| 12:43.00 | Wobin | ;ies |
| 12:43.01 | Wobin | lies |
| 12:43.59 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:44.44 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: they lifted that part of NDA |
| 12:44.45 | jnwhiteh | gg |
| 12:44.50 | Wobin | actually I'd've not broken the NDA if I were bound by it |
| 12:45.00 | Fisker | naw jnwhiteh |
| 12:45.00 | Wobin | but you would have maliciously done so if you were! |
| 12:45.32 | Wobin | I know you, Fisker! |
| 12:45.38 | Wobin | (From the MOUNTAINS) |
| 12:45.46 | Fisker | indeed |
| 12:49.07 | Fisker | anyways jnwhiteh |
| 12:49.07 | TopTop18 | http://toptop18.pastey.net/117790 keeps saying "trying to concatenate a nil value" for 2 hours and I can;t figure out why. Can anyone point me on the noobish fail I made? (and it's not a wall of text this time) |
| 12:49.09 | Fisker | can i join? >:3 |
| 12:49.11 | Fisker | i'm a n00b |
| 12:49.43 | industrial | TopTop18: apparently something is nil (what line) |
| 12:49.56 | industrial | just check the variables to see what is nil? |
| 12:50.01 | industrial | print(type(var)) |
| 12:50.18 | Cide | jnwhiteh: you reconnecting? :) |
| 12:50.25 | TopTop18 | Line 5 in the pastey, I already implemented if var ~= nil then, but it keep giving error |
| 12:50.27 | Fisker | jerks! :( |
| 12:50.52 | Wobin | TopTop18: string.match might return a nil |
| 12:51.02 | industrial | TopTop18: well then either name or message is nil, also name is already a string so you dont have to tostring() it |
| 12:51.28 | TopTop18 | Industrial, all things I tried to prevent it from giving a nil error... |
| 12:51.33 | cbreak | does string.match return nil? |
| 12:51.41 | TopTop18 | Wobin, okay, but how to prevent it from giving nil? |
| 12:51.50 | industrial | lua> string.match('a', 'b') |
| 12:51.50 | lua_bot | industrial: nil |
| 12:51.52 | Wobin | also, your comparison doesn't really make much sense |
| 12:52.09 | Wobin | you just want to match if the message contains "promoted" or "demoted" |
| 12:52.17 | Wobin | currently, the name of the player matters not |
| 12:52.47 | TopTop18 | The name of the players matter for the bigger code I'm making |
| 12:53.00 | cbreak | it's complete nonsense :/ |
| 12:53.01 | jnwhiteh | Cide: yah |
| 12:53.02 | jnwhiteh | damn crashes. |
| 12:53.13 | cbreak | what you do is: |
| 12:53.15 | Cide | cool |
| 12:53.17 | cbreak | take the name as string |
| 12:53.20 | TopTop18 | ah I think i know now |
| 12:53.22 | cbreak | convert it to a string |
| 12:53.27 | cbreak | then take the message |
| 12:53.35 | cbreak | look if it contains " promoted to" |
| 12:53.37 | Wobin | You could just have if string.match(message, "is promoted to") or string.match(message, "is demoted to") then (do my checks if the name matches the player) end |
| 12:53.41 | cbreak | and if it does, take " promoted to" |
| 12:53.47 | cbreak | and concatenate it with the name |
| 12:53.54 | cbreak | and then compare if it is still equal to the name |
| 12:54.01 | cbreak | which is nosnensical |
| 12:54.15 | cbreak | since you obviously just concatenated nil or the match (which is " promoted to") |
| 12:54.18 | TopTop18 | Gonna try if name .. string.match(message, "(promoted)" ~= nil then |
| 12:54.27 | Wobin | er |
| 12:54.30 | Wobin | you'll still have the same error |
| 12:54.37 | cbreak | you still do nonsensical stuff |
| 12:54.45 | Wobin | cause as soon as you get a system message that doesn't have 'promoted' it'll try concatting the nil again |
| 12:54.59 | Wobin | you're not understanding -why- the error is occuring |
| 12:55.02 | cbreak | why do you want to capture "promoted"? |
| 12:55.10 | cbreak | do you understand how string.match works? |
| 12:55.20 | TopTop18 | Partly |
| 12:55.25 | Wobin | Go read up on it |
| 12:55.28 | Wobin | now =P |
| 12:55.34 | TopTop18 | Okay wobin, woof |
| 12:55.35 | Wobin | before you use it |
| 12:55.37 | cbreak | why do you want to do |
| 12:55.45 | cbreak | name .. "promoted" == name? |
| 12:55.48 | cbreak | it will never be true |
| 12:55.50 | bluspacecow | woof ! |
| 12:56.12 | TopTop18 | Gonna try stuff now, brb |
| 12:57.22 | Fisker | wobin :( |
| 12:57.26 | Fisker | jnwhiteh and Cide is meaaan |
| 12:57.35 | Wobin | ... |
| 12:57.38 | Cide | hm? |
| 12:57.38 | Wobin | You didn't know this? |
| 12:57.49 | Wobin | It's part of their charm =P |
| 12:57.54 | TopTop18 | Fisker, have a cookie and all will be better |
| 12:58.00 | Wobin | (or maybe a hex...) |
| 12:58.39 | bluspacecow | aroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 12:58.45 | bluspacecow | *wags tail* |
| 12:59.08 | Wobin | tosses bluspacecow a scooby snack |
| 12:59.19 | bluspacecow | *woofs happily* |
| 12:59.58 | TopTop18 | Wobin, how to do custom green messages? |
| 13:00.06 | TopTop18 | (In IRC) |
| 13:00.09 | industrial | dont. |
| 13:00.10 | industrial | :p |
| 13:00.11 | Wobin | um |
| 13:00.13 | Wobin | use /me ? |
| 13:00.16 | bluspacecow | with green felt tip |
| 13:00.25 | bluspacecow | runs away with all the green felts |
| 13:00.25 | TopTop18 | Ah that makes sense, was trying -emote |
| 13:00.48 | TopTop18 | shoots bluspacecow |
| 13:01.02 | industrial | MOOooo... |
| 13:01.03 | bluspacecow | oh noesss i've been shot |
| 13:01.13 | bluspacecow | *makes dramatic im dying dance* |
| 13:01.26 | TopTop18 | Second time today, you die way to much |
| 13:01.31 | bluspacecow | *falls down with hand grasping up ala male blood elf dying dance* |
| 13:01.35 | jnwhiteh | cri-zash |
| 13:01.51 | industrial | jnwhiteh: is it fun? |
| 13:02.02 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 13:02.04 | jnwhiteh | when its not crashing :P |
| 13:02.06 | industrial | heh |
| 13:02.11 | jnwhiteh | Cide: why'd you leave? |
| 13:02.20 | Cide | they conceded |
| 13:02.23 | Cide | well, we did |
| 13:02.27 | jnwhiteh | orly |
| 13:02.30 | Cide | I'll rehost in a bit |
| 13:02.33 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 13:02.42 | jnwhiteh | lets get wobin set up |
| 13:03.54 | TopTop18 | Hmm think this makes sense: if string.match(message, name.."promoted") ~= nil then(and I read the stuff up in my wowprogrammin gbook :D) |
| 13:04.33 | cbreak | no |
| 13:04.40 | Cide | hm |
| 13:04.42 | Cide | so fisker is in |
| 13:04.44 | Cide | and I have 2 friends |
| 13:04.46 | Cide | and jnwhiteh |
| 13:05.01 | cbreak | TopTop18: you lack space |
| 13:05.05 | Cide | so we'll be 6 if Wobin wants to join |
| 13:05.09 | Wobin | just scanning through the ToS atm |
| 13:05.39 | jnwhiteh | Cide: when RD instead of AP? |
| 13:05.44 | jnwhiteh | err, you know what i mean =) |
| 13:05.45 | Cide | hm? |
| 13:05.49 | jnwhiteh | why draft instead of pick |
| 13:05.59 | Cide | just the mode I'm most used to, /shrug |
| 13:06.01 | jnwhiteh | to ensure you get what you want |
| 13:06.02 | jnwhiteh | ah cool |
| 13:06.03 | Cide | too late to change now |
| 13:06.04 | jnwhiteh | makes sense |
| 13:06.10 | jnwhiteh | nor am I worriest about it |
| 13:06.35 | jnwhiteh | Cide: how many invites have you been able to give out so far? |
| 13:06.40 | Cide | 7, total |
| 13:06.44 | Cide | got like 3 to give out if people want |
| 13:07.14 | TopTop18 | cbreak, thanks for correcting noobish fails |
| 13:07.37 | cbreak | I'd solve that problem differently |
| 13:08.54 | jnwhiteh | i've got one left to give |
| 13:08.56 | jnwhiteh | after wobin |
| 13:09.04 | cbreak | something like |
| 13:09.41 | cbreak | local m = string.match(message, "(%a*) is promoted"); if m == name then |
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| 13:16.56 | bluspacecow | hai arrow |
| 13:24.36 | TopTop18 | It works! Yay finally! (not sure if it works right, but it works! xD) |
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| 13:25.33 | TopTop18 | cbreak, just see your message :S But I did it like this: if string.match(message, "promoted " .. name) ~= nil or string.match(message, "demoted " .. name) ~= nil then |
| 13:26.02 | cbreak | good luck getting that to work :) |
| 13:26.11 | TopTop18 | It works :D |
| 13:26.32 | cbreak | strange. it doesn't match with the pattern you used before |
| 13:26.45 | cbreak | "promoted to" |
| 13:26.57 | TopTop18 | Ye the message was somwhat differen |
| 13:27.06 | TopTop18 | XXX promoted name to rank |
| 13:27.44 | TopTop18 | Learned that I've to look at what I'm exactly filtering out xD |
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| 13:43.30 | bluspacecow | "A WoW player living in Indianapolis was arrested after he used in-game chat to threaten to blow up a plane, Indystar.com is reporting. The eighteen year old later told Johnson County sheriffs that he "was going to board a plane at 7:30 to Chicago and that (he) was going to try and kill as many Americans as possible"." |
| 13:43.32 | bluspacecow | heheheh |
| 13:43.59 | industrial | police dont know bout my internets culture |
| 13:44.09 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:50.55 | Aelobin | wheres the 3 beacons in DM north for the prison? :S |
| 13:51.15 | Aelobin | or *west sorry |
| 13:51.15 | Aelobin | ive got the 2 that are by the prison itself |
| 13:52.00 | industrial | Aelobin: haha I read wheres the 3 bacons :p |
| 13:52.06 | industrial | mmm bacon |
| 13:52.07 | Aelobin | xD |
| 13:53.39 | TopTop18 | Upstairs are some, at first boss |
| 13:53.50 | TopTop18 | and when entering there's one |
| 13:54.05 | TopTop18 | Get alphamap, it shows them |
| 13:55.17 | Aelobin | aaah wait i realised why im getting confused |
| 13:55.21 | Aelobin | i entered through DM north |
| 13:55.33 | bluspacecow | SHOW ME THE BACON !!!! |
| 13:55.38 | TopTop18 | Ah, then go to the normal entrance |
| 13:55.48 | TopTop18 | Bluspacecow, cows==bacon |
| 13:55.58 | bluspacecow | nah uh |
| 13:56.03 | bluspacecow | pigs are bacon |
| 13:56.07 | bluspacecow | cows are beef |
| 13:56.08 | TopTop18 | shoot bluspacecow and makes bacon from him |
| 13:56.13 | bluspacecow | want some bacon baby ? |
| 13:56.18 | TopTop18 | I has cowbacon |
| 13:56.25 | bluspacecow | pffft just use one of my many corspes on the floor |
| 13:56.31 | bluspacecow | dat meats going to waste ! |
| 13:56.40 | TopTop18 | Eat it then xD |
| 13:57.44 | Aelobin | TopTop18: ok got the one in the courtyard |
| 13:57.47 | Aelobin | wheres the other 2 :P |
| 13:58.13 | TopTop18 | Hmm shot one when he fled |
| 13:58.35 | TopTop18 | And he hided the other, so probably downstairs |
| 13:59.05 | TopTop18 | Or maybe he already cooked em in the kitchen |
| 13:59.10 | Aelobin | nvm found them xD |
| 13:59.15 | TopTop18 | xD |
| 14:00.00 | jnwhiteh | that was terrible |
| 14:00.24 | TopTop18 | I'm terrible |
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| 14:04.43 | Fisker | pukes |
| 14:10.21 | Kraps | FISKER: DONT BLOW CHUNKS IN MY CAR http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109287/ |
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| 14:15.27 | bluspacecow | http://au.pc.gamespy.com/flintlocke-vs-the-horde/episode-14-the-showdown/1000392p1.html |
| 14:15.40 | bluspacecow | "omg what happened to me? I'm purply!" |
| 14:22.02 | Aelobin | ah ffs the "mother's milk" debuff from LBRS is so annoying >_> |
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| 14:32.50 | bluspacecow | what is it ? |
| 14:33.15 | TopTop18 | Is there an event when the guild roster is actually updated, and not when an update is available like GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE |
| 14:33.25 | TopTop18 | Roots you sometime |
| 14:34.46 | bluspacecow | ahhhh can you do that gnomey thing out of it ? |
| 14:35.05 | Aelobin | gnomey thing? :P |
| 14:35.14 | bluspacecow | escape artist |
| 14:35.18 | Aelobin | you can use any kinda thing to get outta the web when it's on you, but that wont get rid of the debuff |
| 14:35.27 | Aelobin | itll keep putting more webs on every now and then until you get it dispelled |
| 14:35.41 | bluspacecow | whats the debuff again ? |
| 14:36.19 | Aelobin | Mother's Milk |
| 14:36.32 | Kraps | i dont get "rate the <player/class/spec/gear> above you" threads. it usually takes 3 posts to turn into a flame/epeen war |
| 14:36.36 | Aelobin | off to SW to get it dispelled :p |
| 14:37.03 | bluspacecow | where do you go to get the Leeroy Jenkins achievement ? |
| 14:37.10 | Aelobin | UBRS |
| 14:37.24 | TopTop18 | Aelobin, druids can dispell it :D |
| 14:37.31 | bluspacecow | thats as far as ive gone in LBRS/UBRS |
| 14:37.33 | Aelobin | im a DK :< |
| 14:37.38 | bluspacecow | gone to BRD a few times |
| 14:37.39 | Aelobin | i shoulda popped my anti magic shell tbh |
| 14:37.49 | bluspacecow | what realm you on Aelobin ? |
| 14:37.54 | Aelobin | CoA |
| 14:38.59 | Aelobin | hmm |
| 14:39.04 | Aelobin | it appears it cant effect you whilst mounted xD |
| 14:40.37 | Aelobin | just need ZF, Scholo and ST now :D |
| 14:42.15 | Kraps | hmm... have you seen alli female rogue t9? |
| 14:44.41 | Slafsinator | birds with boobies |
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| 15:26.45 | jnwhiteh | http://apidiff.pastey.net/117792 |
| 15:45.07 | Kraps | i get goosebumps every time i hear Keri's last words... i think... ima cry... /tear |
| 15:48.54 | Aelobin | anyone know how to get xfire live stream working? :p |
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| 15:54.41 | KindOne | Do i have to every WoW update, or can i just install the latest? I got WoW3.0.1 |
| 15:56.06 | Lukian | KindOne, 3.1, 3.1.1, 3.1.2, 3.1.3 |
| 15:56.57 | KindOne | Thank you |
| 15:57.07 | Lukian | I think.. |
| 15:57.34 | Lukian | if not .. 3.0.1, 3.0.2, 3.0.3, 3.0.8, 3.0.9 :> |
| 15:57.40 | Lukian | then the above XD |
| 15:57.45 | KindOne | ... |
| 15:57.57 | KindOne | thats going to take 10 hours.... |
| 15:58.15 | Lukian | yeah it's faster to copy wow over a network :> |
| 15:59.14 | Lukian | ouch I can't believe blizzard did a major release at 3.0.8 |
| 15:59.34 | Lukian | well if you wait 1 month, I'm sure there might be a 3.0.x to 3.2 patch XD |
| 16:00.41 | KindOne | Can someone else pay for my WoW membership, or is that againt the rules? |
| 16:01.19 | Lukian | as long as it's not exchanged for items or services in game, that's acceptable |
| 16:01.52 | KindOne | Okay thanks, me and the other person are going to be playing. |
| 16:01.54 | Lukian | if the credit card (assuming) is in a different country though, that's a bad idea :p |
| 16:02.15 | KindOne | lol.... He's UK, im USA |
| 16:02.21 | Lukian | sharing an account really isn't a good idea either (unless you live together) :> |
| 16:02.31 | Lukian | or tunnel the connection |
| 16:02.32 | Lukian | hehe |
| 16:04.31 | KindOne | tunnel would be too slow... |
| 16:06.21 | KindOne | what would you consider to be an acceptable FPS ? |
| 16:06.48 | Slafsinator | 7 |
| 16:07.00 | KindOne | that low ? |
| 16:07.17 | foxlit | ~30 |
| 16:07.30 | foxlit | Although that's in the realm of "meh, good enough" |
| 16:08.26 | Lukian | >10-15 in 25mans :p |
| 16:09.39 | Slafsinator | you can manage with 7 in raids, but for enjoyment and general play you want double, quadruple of that :) |
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| 16:12.50 | askjgahf | erm, how do i kick my KindOne? |
| 16:13.19 | Slafsinator | you don't |
| 16:13.35 | askjgahf | lol im the same person... i lost internet... |
| 16:13.42 | askjgahf | i want to ghost it or whatever |
| 16:14.02 | Slafsinator | you wait |
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| 16:45.12 | Kraps | http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/Solnus/blizzaccount.jpg |
| 16:46.32 | Slafsinator | If you look up 'dumb' in the dictionary, you find that screenshot as an illustration in the lower left corner of the page. |
| 16:53.59 | Kraps | hehe |
| 16:54.17 | Kraps | i want a new mounts too |
| 16:54.38 | Kraps | from blizz no less |
| 16:54.47 | mikma | http://www.ak47bayonets.com/pic/Ismailia/Ismailia-002.jpg |
| 16:55.40 | Kraps | whats that mikma ? |
| 16:55.49 | mikma | .. :I |
| 16:56.02 | Zyndrome | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dumb |
| 16:56.05 | Zyndrome | nope |
| 16:56.08 | Zyndrome | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
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| 17:04.03 | Slafsinator | Zyndrome: paper version >:| |
| 17:04.22 | Zyndrome | people still read text on paper? |
| 17:19.39 | Vilkku | hey guys :D |
| 17:19.45 | Vilkku | I'm here asking for help again |
| 17:19.54 | Vilkku | actually |
| 17:19.57 | Vilkku | I forgot to google :P |
| 17:20.08 | Vilkku | I'll do that first \o/ |
| 17:23.10 | Zyndrome | Google is your ENEMY. |
| 17:23.46 | Adys | Google is your overlord |
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| 17:30.24 | Vilkku | yeah, can't find what I want |
| 17:30.25 | Vilkku | well |
| 17:30.33 | Vilkku | can you sort an array? |
| 17:30.40 | Vilkku | without using for ... as? |
| 17:30.54 | Vilkku | for ... do* |
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| 17:37.58 | Adys | Vilkku: a table you mean? |
| 17:38.23 | Vilkku | Adys, I asked in #wowace, it's a hash table, so apparently I can't |
| 17:38.39 | Adys | yeah there are two "kind" of tables |
| 17:38.50 | Adys | you can sort one, not the other or something like that |
| 17:40.28 | industrial | Question: Can you play wow at level 80 without entering Dalaran ever/ |
| 17:40.55 | Vilkku | industrial: if you don't want any tier loot, I suppose you can :P |
| 17:41.06 | industrial | I generally hate the place, and its making my wow crash on linux, like every minute logged in or so |
| 17:41.22 | Dagmar | Hmm... It seems there are dumb questions |
| 17:41.32 | industrial | hm I guess that'd be the only thing you really NEED in Dalaran |
| 17:41.40 | industrial | I'm not doing dailies anyway |
| 17:42.01 | Shirik | Adys: That is not how you should say that |
| 17:42.13 | Shirik | there is nothing in the specification that says you can't sort a hash table |
| 17:42.19 | industrial | what smartypants ever thought of putting the main city on top of a whole area :| |
| 17:42.28 | Shirik | you simply do not know whether a given item is in the hash table or in the array table |
| 17:42.42 | Shirik | It is up to Lua to decide the most efficient implementation |
| 17:42.44 | industrial | tar & feathers, what say you Fisker |
| 17:42.56 | Shirik | You can sort anything in contiguous indices, that's it |
| 17:42.58 | Vilkku | Shirik, so is there a way? :P |
| 17:43.11 | Shirik | not if it's got holes in it |
| 17:43.37 | Shirik | However, you can't say that "if it's a hash table it can't be sorted" nor can you say "if it can't be sorted, it's a hash table" |
| 17:43.54 | Shirik | s/a hash table/in the hash portion/ |
| 17:43.58 | Vilkku | "got wholes in it"? :P |
| 17:44.08 | Shirik | what are the indexes of your table |
| 17:44.47 | Adys | for whores in it? O_o |
| 17:45.04 | Adys | ~x en fr for whores in it |
| 17:45.13 | Adys | ouch |
| 17:45.15 | Adys | ouch. |
| 17:45.42 | Shirik | Sorts table elements in a given order, in-place, from table[1] to table[n], where n is the length of the table. If comp is given, then it must be a function that receives two table elements, and returns true when the first is less than the second (so that not comp(a[i+1],a[i]) will be true after the sort). If comp is not given, then the standard Lua operator < is used instead. |
| 17:45.48 | Shirik | Definition of table.sort from the manual |
| 17:45.59 | Shirik | If your table fits that definition, you can use it |
| 17:46.14 | Vilkku | Shirik, strings (player names) |
| 17:46.25 | Shirik | so, will it work? |
| 17:46.33 | Vilkku | sec, let me read it |
| 17:47.09 | Vilkku | no it won't :P |
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| 17:49.11 | Kraps | anub'arak is hard |
| 17:49.40 | Shirik | anyway, you have to be really careful when using table.sort in strange situations |
| 17:49.50 | Shirik | for an interesting example |
| 17:49.54 | Kraps | unless you have good aoe |
| 17:50.12 | Shirik | lua> t = {1,nil, 2,nil,3, nil, nil, nil}; table.sort(t, function(n1, n2) if not n1 then return true; elseif not n2 then return false; else return n1 < n2; end end); pp(t) |
| 17:50.12 | lua_bot | Shirik: { 1, [3] = 2, [5] = 3 } (#1) |
| 17:50.51 | Shirik | sorry let me try again |
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| 17:55.04 | Shirik | ok take into account this example |
| 17:55.08 | Shirik | lua> t = {1,2,nil,nil,nil,4} table.sort(t, function(n1, n2) if not n1 then return true; elseif not n2 then return false; else return n1 < n2; end end); pp(t) |
| 17:55.08 | lua_bot | Shirik: { [4] = 1, [5] = 2, [6] = 4 } (#1) |
| 17:55.18 | Shirik | lua> t = {1,2}; t[3] = nil; t[4] = nil; t[5] = nil; t[6] = 4; table.sort(t, function(n1, n2) if not n1 then return true; elseif not n2 then return false; else return n1 < n2; end end); pp(t) |
| 17:55.18 | lua_bot | Shirik: { 1, 2, [6] = 4 } (#1) |
| 17:55.26 | Shirik | Note that those are the same table |
| 17:55.29 | Shirik | but sorted differently |
| 17:55.56 | Shirik | The only time you are 100% guaranteed the sort will remain consistent is when your indexes go from 1 to n, with no values of nil in the middle |
| 17:56.18 | Shirik | (and even then the sort isn't stable, so if values are equal they may move around, but that's likely not a big deal) |
| 17:56.53 | Cide | are you sure you can't haven il values in the middle? |
| 17:56.59 | Shirik | I didn't say that |
| 17:57.07 | Cide | s/haven /have n/ |
| 17:57.07 | Shirik | I said the sort isn't guaranteed to remain consistent |
| 17:57.12 | Shirik | As shown above |
| 17:57.30 | Shirik | the only way you can guarantee the sort will be consistent is if you can guarantee #n |
| 17:57.39 | Shirik | And the only time you can guarantee #n is when there are no nil values in the middle |
| 17:57.58 | Cide | well, are you sure it uses #tbl as n, and not the maximum integer index for which tbl[i] == nil for all i > n? |
| 17:58.03 | Shirik | Yes |
| 17:58.07 | Cide | weak |
| 17:58.09 | Cide | stupid lua |
| 17:58.10 | Shirik | as proven above, and per the documentation |
| 17:58.22 | Shirik | if you check #n on the tables above, you'd see 6 and 2 respectively |
| 17:58.26 | Cide | that's kind of strange |
| 17:58.28 | Shirik | #t |
| 17:58.31 | Shirik | whatever you want to call it |
| 17:58.39 | Shirik | it's efficient |
| 17:58.46 | Cide | it's strange |
| 17:58.57 | Cide | it's not very inefficient to store the maximum key |
| 18:00.33 | Shirik | simple solution |
| 18:00.38 | Shirik | don't mess around with yucky tables |
| 18:01.03 | Cide | or use false |
| 18:01.36 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:02.14 | Shirik | When I was working on Lua^2 I used a userdata to store nil |
| 18:02.33 | Shirik | via newproxy() |
| 18:02.35 | Dagmar | You *stored* nil successfully? |
| 18:02.48 | Dagmar | Neat |
| 18:03.05 | Shirik | uh, I translated nil to a userdata and stored the userdata |
| 18:03.11 | Dagmar | AH okay |
| 18:03.28 | Shirik | I should get around to finishing that |
| 18:03.36 | Shirik | it would be badass to have a debugger in wow |
| 18:04.46 | Adys | I got a problem |
| 18:05.00 | Shirik | I could say something mean here |
| 18:05.01 | Adys | I have a sshfs share on ~/ssh |
| 18:05.02 | Shirik | but I won't |
| 18:05.16 | Adys | I cannot connect it |
| 18:05.17 | Adys | fuse: bad mount point `ssh': Transport endpoint is not connected |
| 18:05.22 | Adys | and I cannot remove it |
| 18:05.31 | Adys | rm: cannot remove `ssh': Transport endpoint is not connected |
| 18:05.59 | Adys | whatd'd d'i do? |
| 18:06.01 | Cide | I think your problem is that the transport endpoint isn't connected |
| 18:06.05 | Shirik | I concur |
| 18:06.07 | Adys | your MOM |
| 18:06.11 | Adys | is not connected. |
| 18:06.19 | Adys | or is she? |
| 18:06.22 | Adys | she could be in this channel |
| 18:08.05 | Dagmar | You got lucky |
| 18:08.21 | Dagmar | Your bad FUSE arguments just about cost you some files |
| 18:09.01 | Adys | eh? |
| 18:09.07 | Shirik | I think he should connect the transport endpoint |
| 18:09.16 | Adys | Im not using fuse directly |
| 18:09.23 | Adys | im using sshfs, which uses fuse as backend |
| 18:09.27 | Cide | I think the transport startpoint must be connected through a series of tubes to the transport endpoint |
| 18:09.31 | Adys | I fixed it |
| 18:09.43 | Adys | /ini/umountfs restart |
| 18:09.54 | Shirik | wtf is that |
| 18:09.59 | Adys | I dont know, it worked |
| 18:10.03 | Shirik | do I even have an ini folder? |
| 18:10.09 | Adys | er |
| 18:10.12 | Dagmar | Um... who uses an /ini/ directory? |
| 18:10.13 | Adys | thats a symlink to /etc/init.d |
| 18:10.21 | Dagmar | Is that a weird OSX thing? |
| 18:10.35 | Adys | no its something I prefer calling practicality with tabcompletion |
| 18:10.41 | Adys | fuck initramfs |
| 18:10.41 | Dagmar | Please tell me you're not using one of those windows-fappery Linux one-offs |
| 18:10.51 | Dagmar | Ah okay |
| 18:11.14 | Shirik | mpdelbuono@li23-154 ~ $ /etc/init.d/umountfs restart |
| 18:11.15 | Shirik | -bash: /etc/init.d/umountfs: No such file or directory |
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| 18:11.17 | Shirik | :( |
| 18:11.25 | Dagmar | Every so often one of those Linux distros that is headed up by someone who goes to sleep fapping over pictures of Bill Gates gets some new users |
| 18:11.33 | Adys | adys@azura:~$ /etc/init |
| 18:11.33 | Adys | init/ init.d/ initramfs-tools/ |
| 18:11.34 | Dagmar | Someday, we'll find a cure. |
| 18:11.36 | Adys | FU ubuntu. |
| 18:11.58 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:11.58 | Cide | clearly the most hardcore and non-sensical way of doing it is the only pure way |
| 18:11.59 | Shirik | that is so win |
| 18:12.05 | Dagmar | They get the idea that putting all the binaries into their own directories, each, or all the binaries in one top-level directory is a good idea |
| 18:12.05 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, are you working on the phantom ray? |
| 18:12.24 | Shirik | nah |
| 18:12.32 | Shirik | let me see if what I'm working on is released |
| 18:12.43 | Dagmar | Eventually, they always get mired in "OMG why can't I find any of my files" but it takes awhile |
| 18:12.45 | Cide | you must be working actively on it. |
| 18:13.26 | Dagmar | Seeing /ini/ made me suspect a new one of those might have sprung up, like an unwanted skin cancer |
| 18:13.38 | Shirik | http://www.insitu.com/integrator |
| 18:13.48 | Adys | /ini is the best symlink ive done in 15 months |
| 18:14.01 | Dagmar | Yeah for what you're doing it's fine |
| 18:15.29 | Shirik | however, Thunder_Child, the X-45 has been in development for something like 30 years |
| 18:15.37 | Shirik | it was a very old program that was revitalized for some reason |
| 18:15.42 | Shirik | got shut down a long time ago |
| 18:18.56 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i still dont understand the difference between /usr/local and /opt |
| 18:19.50 | Adys | /opt is often used by commercial apps |
| 18:20.30 | Adys | or very heavy installs (like IDEs) |
| 18:20.42 | Adys | thats the only thing I could find for it |
| 18:21.22 | Arrowmaster | the software for my 3ware raid card installs to /opt |
| 18:21.52 | nevcairiel | i install stuff like eclipse into /opt |
| 18:21.55 | nevcairiel | and some other apps |
| 18:22.16 | nevcairiel | mostly stuff binary stuff i dont get through portage =P |
| 18:22.20 | nevcairiel | -stuff |
| 18:23.12 | Adys | here's a hint |
| 18:23.27 | Adys | do not EVER use tar/7zip over sshfs |
| 18:24.18 | nevcairiel | i try to not use stuff like that over network in general |
| 18:24.38 | Adys | i tend to forget that sshfs != ssh :D |
| 18:26.12 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Adys actually summed it up pretty well |
| 18:26.47 | Dagmar | The only semantic extra is that things in /opt are generally assumed to be entirely self-contained |
| 18:26.54 | Arrowmaster | yeah /opt is for things with shitty installers that dont know how to use /usr/local properly |
| 18:27.16 | Dagmar | ...and by self-contained I mean they're usually either statically compiled or they bring their own shared libs because they'll seldom even need glibc to link against |
| 18:27.25 | Dagmar | Not quite |
| 18:27.41 | Dagmar | The /usr/local directory has a semantic that means those files are local to _that machine_. I.e., they |
| 18:27.43 | Dagmar | 're unique. |
| 18:27.56 | Dagmar | ...and they need to be backed up because they might or might not be present on anything else on the network |
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| 18:28.29 | Dagmar | So... something built by some third-party company would definitely be an installable package and non-unique binaries |
| 18:28.42 | Dagmar | ...but not part of the normal OS by any stretch, so into /opt they put it |
| 18:29.57 | Dagmar | Installable packages made by others should never go into /usr/local, and if you want to put something in /usr (with /usr/bin, /usr/lib, etc) you somewhat have to be sure you won't have ANY filename collisions, which is why manufs and some vendors started using /opt afaik |
| 18:30.23 | Dagmar | Being that I've seen an AIX installable with it's own libz.so in it, the filename collision thing is not just an imaginary bed monster. |
| 18:32.02 | Arrowmaster | i did a new install just the other day and let the installer setup lvm with seperate / /usr /var /tmp and /home, i ended up killing the system by filling up / |
| 18:38.06 | Seerah | Dagmar: bed monsters are real :p |
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| 19:08.06 | Vilkku | ideas for a good beginner frame guide? |
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| 19:16.14 | _rane | hey, is there an addon that makes bg popups less obtrusive? |
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| 19:24.38 | msoul | wobin could you tell the taunt attack for a dk? |
| 19:24.50 | msoul | i am in naxx and i couldn't taunt that boss "first time ot naxx" |
| 19:26.02 | Shirik | what the fuck? |
| 19:26.16 | Shirik | So I'm looking at this website on this card I got, and by habit I don't type in the www in it |
| 19:26.24 | Shirik | so I type in naturenw.org |
| 19:26.46 | Shirik | and I get some thing to like log into a network administration tool |
| 19:26.51 | Shirik | or something |
| 19:30.33 | jnwhiteh | there are a TON of .co.uk addresses |
| 19:30.35 | jnwhiteh | that don't work without the www |
| 19:30.36 | jnwhiteh | stabs |
| 19:30.42 | Cide | domains where the empty subdomain isn't aliased with www FAIL |
| 19:30.49 | Cide | er |
| 19:30.55 | Cide | it's really annoying |
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| 19:40.01 | tekkub | down with www. |
| 19:40.10 | tekkub | it's useless in most cases anyway |
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| 19:45.34 | Fisker | herro jnwhiteh |
| 19:45.39 | jnwhiteh | ohai |
| 19:45.56 | Fisker | www subdomains = fail |
| 19:46.32 | Fisker | there's even some danish sites here who has the habbit of n |
| 19:46.36 | Fisker | only responding on www |
| 19:46.47 | Dagmar | It's not that simple. |
| 19:46.54 | Fisker | it pisses me off |
| 19:46.59 | Fisker | "Oh the site is down" |
| 19:47.03 | Fisker | Then later you realize they just failed |
| 19:47.47 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 19:47.53 | Fisker | i am the best thing to happen to HoN |
| 19:48.50 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: i can imagine! |
| 19:49.30 | jnwhiteh | i've been fail today for whatever reason |
| 19:49.41 | jnwhiteh | i have difficulty buying the right items when its not on EM |
| 19:49.49 | jnwhiteh | i should look for a forum post on it |
| 19:51.15 | Fisker | http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j97/paswerdz/sc2beta.jpg |
| 19:51.18 | Fisker | lol'd so hard |
| 19:51.59 | Cide- | congradulashuns! |
| 19:52.02 | jnwhiteh | ZOMGNESS |
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| 20:22.59 | nicoli_s | sc2!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:24.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I wonder if they'll give priority to people who have every blizzard game on their battle.net account that their site will accept :P |
| 20:24.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Manage My Games(8 |
| 20:24.51 | ScytheBlade1 | games |
| 20:25.12 | ScytheBlade1 | That was an.. interesting paste |
| 20:25.46 | Slafsinator | I think I tried to sign up for that beta 10 times |
| 20:25.53 | Slafsinator | battle.net just cackled at me every time :( |
| 20:29.10 | Shirik | nicoli_s? |
| 20:29.12 | industrial | nicoli_s: ?? |
| 20:29.19 | industrial | high fives Shirik |
| 20:30.15 | nicoli_s | yes? |
| 20:30.30 | nicoli_s | i was just exlcaming, no reason in particular |
| 20:30.31 | industrial | What's with sc2 |
| 20:30.33 | industrial | .. |
| 20:30.43 | nicoli_s | http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j97/paswerdz/sc2beta.jpg |
| 20:30.50 | nicoli_s | theres that, but i doubt its authenticity |
| 20:31.22 | Shirik | why do I not believe that picture |
| 20:31.30 | Shirik | is it because the person fails at spelling congratulations? |
| 20:31.50 | Slafsinator | they've put the sc2 beta logo and kerrigan over the D2 background |
| 20:31.54 | Slafsinator | faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake barf |
| 20:32.00 | Shirik | rofl |
| 20:32.06 | Shirik | I'm wondering if this is intentionally bad |
| 20:32.07 | nicoli_s | wow i didnt even see that part |
| 20:32.20 | nicoli_s | ill believe anything, tthats how bad i want this damn game |
| 20:32.23 | Shirik | lol |
| 20:32.23 | Slafsinator | they even squeezed kerrigan |
| 20:32.23 | industrial | I bet they is Fisker |
| 20:32.38 | Shirik | I bet too |
| 20:32.42 | Shirik | Fisker would totally do that |
| 20:32.58 | nicoli_s | he would |
| 20:33.12 | industrial | so getting Fiskered is like getting rickrolled but then with bad photoshop? |
| 20:33.27 | ScytheBlade1 | not quite |
| 20:33.27 | industrial | Fisker: aw you got me there man! |
| 20:33.30 | ScytheBlade1 | ~emulate fisker |
| 20:33.30 | purl | well, emulate fisker is "<reply> OH MY GOD I AM GOING TO CUM" |
| 20:33.50 | nevcairiel | someone failed at purl there |
| 20:33.56 | industrial | good thing I didnt say that a few seconds later! |
| 20:34.00 | ScytheBlade1 | ~factinfo emulate fisker |
| 20:34.00 | purl | emulate fisker -- created by Mikma <i=mikma@reaktio.net> at Mon Dec 4 23:01:20 2006 (957 days); last modified at Sun Oct 28 09:55:21 2007 by Kemayo!n=kemayo@pool-71-103-215-86.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net; it has been requested 9 times, last by ScytheBlade1, 30s ago. |
| 20:34.12 | Shirik | mikma epic fail 3 years ago |
| 20:34.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ~failrik |
| 20:34.20 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 20:34.25 | nevcairiel | kemayo modieid it, failrik |
| 20:34.26 | ScytheBlade1 | "last modified at ...." |
| 20:34.35 | Shirik | I still blame mikma |
| 20:34.45 | nicoli_s | no one is without blame |
| 20:35.00 | Shirik | I am always without blame |
| 20:35.21 | nicoli_s | what about original sin? thats somewhat like blame |
| 20:35.31 | industrial | in soviet russia everyone blames you? |
| 20:35.31 | nicoli_s | and you cant even act like you dont have that |
| 20:35.43 | Shirik | I've been baptized |
| 20:35.50 | industrial | s/?/ but themselves?/ |
| 20:36.03 | industrial | wait, no |
| 20:36.05 | industrial | ~fail |
| 20:36.06 | purl | somebody said fail was what happens to you when you follow gamespot's game advice. standing in the fire. |
| 20:36.15 | Shirik | ... |
| 20:36.36 | Shirik | ok I go take some pictures now |
| 20:36.37 | Shirik | baibai |
| 20:36.38 | nicoli_s | are those two seperate thoughts? |
| 20:36.46 | industrial | yes :p |
| 20:36.57 | nicoli_s | i was about to say,i see no connection |
| 20:41.53 | Adys | Ackis: ping |
| 20:42.00 | Adys | Ackis: FYI, http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=81285.0 |
| 20:43.20 | Fisker | looks like they were tired of tcg scammers |
| 20:44.54 | Ackis | Fisker: what got bannned? |
| 20:45.09 | Fisker | [22:42:01] <Adys> Ackis: FYI, http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=81285.0 |
| 20:45.13 | Fisker | They made TCG items boe |
| 20:46.00 | Ackis | eh I wasn't on IRC, vnc server doesn't ping me when it's not loaded up |
| 20:46.02 | Ackis | and wow |
| 20:48.27 | Adys | Fisker: my thoughts btw |
| 20:49.21 | Ackis | if they make them BoE i can go and buy dozens of spectral tigers and resell them |
| 20:49.48 | Adys | I think theyre gonna do something against that in the patch |
| 20:49.53 | Adys | but yeah, go ahead and do it before they nerf it |
| 20:50.03 | Ackis | wow account expired |
| 20:50.08 | Adys | you failfuck |
| 20:50.12 | Ackis | don't have wow installed either |
| 20:50.13 | Ackis | :P |
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| 20:55.14 | Ackis | bai |
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| 21:04.34 | Aelobin | ~rlart |
| 21:04.35 | purl | teaches aesir that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
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| 21:08.58 | Fisker | a database is a base with data in it |
| 21:12.09 | Kraps | 380 + 614 |
| 21:12.16 | Kraps | 380+614 |
| 21:12.21 | Kraps | 380+614? |
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| 21:12.27 | Kraps | ?380+614 |
| 21:13.01 | Kraps | purl 380+614 |
| 21:13.02 | purl | 994 |
| 21:13.35 | Kraps | purl 35% of 994 |
| 21:13.36 | purl | 347.9 |
| 21:14.00 | Kraps | purl 994+347.9 |
| 21:14.01 | purl | 1341.9 |
| 21:15.19 | Kraps | the detail in saphs room is amazing |
| 21:19.54 | Slafsinator | s/the detail in // |
| 21:36.50 | Cruciformer | wow the 3.2 patch is coming down at a mighty 8b/s. at this rate I may get it before blizzard's next mmorpg is released. |
| 21:43.45 | Cruciformer | question: is it more efficient do do: a) local uid; for i=1,100 do uid = something(); do_something_else(uid); end or b) for i=1,100 do local uuid = something(); do_something_else(uid); end |
| 21:44.09 | Cruciformer | i.e is there any advantage (or disadvantage) to having hte local inside the loop versus outside it. |
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| 22:08.55 | foxlit | Cruciformer: don't bother. |
| 22:09.12 | foxlit | Use scoping rules to figure out where the variable belongs. |
| 22:09.30 | Cruciformer | foxlit: ok so its not enough of a difference to care about? |
| 22:09.57 | foxlit | It shouldn't be. |
| 22:10.37 | Cruciformer | k I dont know enough about Lua's internals to know if it would be mor work to recreate the local each itteration. or what impact (if any) it has on GC. |
| 22:10.53 | Cruciformer | thanks I wont bother moving stuff around Ill leave the scoping as is. |
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| 22:31.46 | mikma | shirik_: mikma, bringing you epics since 1980 |
| 22:32.46 | Aelobin | Aelobin, bringing you mikmas since 1979 |
| 22:36.22 | mikma | http://svn.wowinterface.com/log.php?repname=OhSnap&path=%2Ftrunk%2F&rev=0&sc=0&isdir=1 |
| 22:36.28 | mikma | log is hilarious, all thanks to me |
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| 22:53.48 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 22:53.51 | jnwhiteh | psycho logs |
| 22:55.58 | mikma | i know :D |
| 22:56.07 | mikma | latest one = <3 |
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| 23:05.52 | danherdegen | Hey all |
| 23:11.51 | foxlit | stealthily rolls a swirl of dust towards mikma. |
| 23:15.43 | danherdegen | I have a quick question in regards to a simple addon I wrote, does anyone have a minute? |
| 23:16.31 | foxlit | ~asktoask |
| 23:16.31 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 23:16.52 | danherdegen | Thanks... still new to irc. |
| 23:18.32 | danherdegen | I have a series of functions I want to autoload on login, each functions code works fine on its own if done with /script in-game, but when I try to load the function from <onLoad> in the xml it wont go. |
| 23:19.40 | danherdegen | *<OnLoad> |
| 23:19.45 | Iriel | You probably dont need OnLoad |
| 23:19.57 | Iriel | just put the functions inline in your .lua file (and list the .lua file in your AddOn's .toc) |
| 23:21.42 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha, win - http://www.hulu.com/inspector-gadget-original-series |
| 23:21.44 | danherdegen | and execute the functions without onload in <Script>? |
| 23:22.04 | ScytheBlade1 | danherdegen: if you just call a function in lua, it'll be executed.. when it is loaded |
| 23:22.17 | ScytheBlade1 | function whatever() .... end; whatever() |
| 23:22.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Put that in your lua, and when the lua is loaded, it'll call whatever() |
| 23:22.37 | ScytheBlade1 | (order is important, though - only call it AFTER you have defined it) |
| 23:23.36 | danherdegen | Then what do I do in the xml, or do I not really need it if there's no interface to the addon? |
| 23:23.59 | Arrowmaster | xml is useless |
| 23:24.04 | ScytheBlade1 | ignore Arrowmaster ;) |
| 23:24.07 | ScytheBlade1 | But you don't need it, no |
| 23:24.13 | ScytheBlade1 | (XML is awesome) |
| 23:24.25 | Arrowmaster | nobody ever needs to use XML (in WoW) |
| 23:24.40 | ScytheBlade1 | needs? no, but that is a moot point |
| 23:24.48 | foxlit | It's a pointless discussion that has no bearing on the issue at hand. |
| 23:24.52 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^^ |
| 23:31.34 | danherdegen | K, still no luck. My knowledge of this stuff is minimal, but it's a pretty simple idea. If anyone could have a peak... maybe I'm missing something. |
| 23:31.36 | danherdegen | http://pastebin.com/m1241075a |
| 23:33.51 | foxlit | You actually do need to make sure that every if statement has a matching end statement |
| 23:36.36 | jnwhiteh | how does one get the title of "Crusder" |
| 23:36.41 | jnwhiteh | is that exalted with AC |
| 23:36.45 | jnwhiteh | AND the five champions? |
| 23:36.53 | foxlit | yes. |
| 23:36.56 | jnwhiteh | grr |
| 23:36.59 | jnwhiteh | i have a while to go still on the rep them |
| 23:37.00 | jnwhiteh | then |
| 23:37.59 | Cairenn | by having been a knight between 1095 and 1291, fighting to regain control of the "Holy Land" |
| 23:38.10 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 23:38.37 | Cairenn | also, of note, it's crusAder, not crusder |
| 23:38.41 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 23:39.17 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 23:43.51 | jnwhiteh | ther'es no rep tokens you can buy for AC right? |
| 23:45.32 | tekkub | Bearier, cute |
| 23:45.43 | tekkub | in my bear guild :) |
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| 23:53.35 | ZorbaBeta | jn, nope. on the other hand, if you've done all five champs, you should be well on your way rep-wise |
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| 23:56.14 | danherdegen | http://pastebin.com/m4bb19056 I made the changes, but now only MachinEmote_Check runs from login, but if I use /script MachinEmote() it does what I want it to do right from login |
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