| 00:00.12 | Lunessa | OK, I'm out for now. I have a raid in 30 and I still need dinner and to get home. |
| 00:00.21 | Lopeppeppy | Kiss kiss, Lunessa, have fun and drive safe! |
| 00:00.41 | Lunessa | Ciao tutti! |
| 00:02.05 | mikma | industrial: wooooooooooooo! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8tF-rZkkmY |
| 00:02.17 | mikma | apoptygma berzerk <3 |
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| 00:17.38 | Adys | Maldivia: ping |
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| 00:43.36 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 00:43.47 | Thunder_Child | trips Shirik |
| 00:46.50 | Shirik | I can feel it |
| 00:46.54 | Shirik | coming in the air tonight |
| 00:46.57 | Shirik | oh lord |
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| 00:47.57 | Cairenn | what the hell? |
| 00:48.46 | Cairenn | offs - I post on the UI section of the incgamers forums inviting people to come to the community dinner, just like I did on the other sites, and they deleted it?! |
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| 00:48.54 | AbsolutRayne | rofl, I got banned on the WoW Forums for Trolling. I love people. |
| 00:48.58 | Thunder_Child | have you been waiting for this moment all your life Shirik? |
| 00:49.25 | Shirik | I have |
| 00:49.30 | Shirik | and I can feel it in the air tonight |
| 00:49.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: sure they didn't move it? |
| 00:49.39 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 00:49.44 | Shirik | and I remember |
| 00:49.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: quick, now go give your camera its wedding ring and all will be complete |
| 00:49.48 | Thunder_Child | did you see it with your own two eyes? |
| 00:50.04 | Lopeppeppy | huggles Cairenn the Troll. |
| 00:50.14 | Shirik | how could I ever forget the first time and the last time we ever met? |
| 00:50.24 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: :< |
| 00:50.32 | Cairenn | it's the exact same f'ing message I posted everywhere else, how the hell is that offensive or anything? |
| 00:50.47 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: ? |
| 00:50.51 | AbsolutRayne | Cairenn: Whats going on? O_o |
| 00:50.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ~soothe Cairenn |
| 00:50.53 | purl | ACTION exerts a calming influence on Cairenn |
| 00:51.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: maybe you were spamming ;) |
| 00:51.45 | Thunder_Child | FOOD IS OFFENSIVE to incgamers |
| 00:51.47 | Cairenn | all posts by me on their site: http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/search.php?searchid=599071 |
| 00:52.00 | Cairenn | notice that there /isn't/ one from today? |
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| 00:52.19 | ScytheBlade1 | maybe it was a misclick! |
| 00:52.27 | Cairenn | yeah .... |
| 00:52.45 | Dagmar | Clearly they are taking steps to ensure that your correct grammar, punctuation and spelling don't further degrade the self-image of the rest of their userbase. |
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| 00:55.27 | AbsolutRayne | Wow, random FF Crash |
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| 01:10.54 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxJLUZWPEb8 |
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| 01:22.30 | Wobin | sighs |
| 01:22.41 | Wobin | notalwaysright sometimes amuses me |
| 01:22.45 | Wobin | well a lot of the time |
| 01:22.51 | Wobin | but the majority of the time it saddens me |
| 01:23.00 | Wobin | that utter fucking morons like that exist |
| 01:23.17 | Wobin | and haven't been shot in the face with hydrochloric acid |
| 01:26.32 | Kraps | ? hydrochloric acid |
| 01:26.40 | Kraps | purl hydrochloric acid |
| 01:27.09 | Kraps | they should have made FL like sarth |
| 01:27.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: try ~wiki |
| 01:27.38 | Wobin | ridiculous amounts of spell effects that slow your frames to about 10? |
| 01:27.47 | Kraps | Wobin: ha |
| 01:27.55 | Kraps | loot-wise |
| 01:28.22 | Wobin | don't you get more loot if more towers are up? |
| 01:28.37 | Kraps | better loot for each tower thats up |
| 01:28.42 | Kraps | yes |
| 01:29.12 | Wobin | so what's the difference? |
| 01:29.17 | Kraps | but its the same whether theres 1 or 4 |
| 01:29.30 | Wobin | ah you want more loot |
| 01:31.04 | Shirik | Wobin, in all honesty, I have a problem with notalwaysright |
| 01:31.10 | Shirik | As I read it, I think two things to myself: |
| 01:31.28 | Shirik | #1: We have no proof that these things are true, and I'm willing to bet a lot of them are made up |
| 01:31.54 | Shirik | #2: It is very likely a lot of them are tweaked, at the very minimum, simply because nobody walks around with a tape recorder while they're selling stuff (hopefully) |
| 01:32.13 | Wobin | well, indeed |
| 01:32.20 | Corrodias | wouldn't surprise me |
| 01:32.27 | Wobin | I take that the entries are probably most likely edited for 'drama' |
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| 01:32.43 | Wobin | since we like to recall such stories with slight embelishments |
| 01:33.02 | Wobin | But I'm not sure all of them are made up |
| 01:33.11 | Wobin | cause that's a whole lot of stupid to be created |
| 01:33.39 | Wobin | when I have faith that the human race can produce it, to some extent, naturally. |
| 01:33.52 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.00 | Wobin | It also reinforces my desire to never ever work retail again. |
| 01:34.21 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, i will be happy to supply said acid |
| 01:34.25 | Thunder_Child | if you throw |
| 01:34.29 | Wobin | hurrah! |
| 01:34.39 | Wobin | I think most of these recipients are in the US |
| 01:34.41 | Wobin | however |
| 01:35.51 | Thunder_Child | next time you are on vacation? |
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| 01:37.50 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.05 | Thunder_Child | blinks at bluspacecow |
| 01:38.12 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
| 01:38.22 | bluspacecow | *fondle* *fondle* |
| 01:38.39 | ScytheBlade1 | getting a little touchey feeley are we |
| 01:38.40 | Thunder_Child | blinks some more at bluspacecow |
| 01:42.08 | ZorbaTHut | hey it's 6pm PST on Tuesday, guess what that means |
| 01:42.18 | ZorbaTHut | the weekly retaliation battlegroup crash! |
| 01:42.34 | Thunder_Child | almost 7 actually |
| 01:42.45 | ZorbaTHut | it crashed at 6, we're hoping it comes back up. |
| 01:42.50 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 01:43.48 | bluspacecow | *casts Greater Resurrection on Retaliation battlegroup* |
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| 01:45.52 | ZorbaTHut | bluspace, looks like it worked, keep chaincasting heals on it plz |
| 01:53.18 | Wobin | ninervates bluspacecow |
| 01:53.39 | bluspacecow | *chain casts as fast as he can* |
| 01:53.56 | bluspacecow | *Lifebloom lifebloom lifebloom* |
| 01:53.59 | bluspacecow | *oom* |
| 01:54.02 | bluspacecow | ;( |
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| 01:55.34 | Wobin | man, if only we had a group res spell =( |
| 01:57.16 | Thunder_Child | prolly on the next hero class. it can also heal an entire raid to full with one spell that costs no mana and is instant cast |
| 01:57.23 | Thunder_Child | and has no GCD |
| 01:57.24 | Wobin | thank god |
| 01:57.36 | Wobin | I was so afraid one button win was going out of fashion |
| 01:57.57 | Thunder_Child | i know, then we can have raids made up of nothing but melee mages |
| 01:58.14 | Wobin | I thought ranged rogues would be classier |
| 01:58.22 | bluspacecow | *dies from healing aggro* |
| 01:59.19 | Thunder_Child | nope, the hero class is immune to all NPC damage and takes 3000% pvp dmg |
| 01:59.48 | bluspacecow | holy shit wtf |
| 01:59.58 | bluspacecow | they're cleared out the PTR forum |
| 02:00.12 | bluspacecow | i can only see the first page .... no little indicators to go to the next page |
| 02:00.40 | bluspacecow | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11572&sid=1 |
| 02:11.30 | Wobin | http://www.intuitiongames.com/red-herring-chase/ |
| 02:11.35 | Wobin | interesting =P |
| 02:11.38 | Wobin | I like the music |
| 02:16.48 | Shirik | we just killed FL in 1 minute 19 seconds |
| 02:16.49 | Shirik | ... |
| 02:17.16 | sacarasc | I did it in 3 seconds, solo. On hard mode! |
| 02:21.20 | Wobin | uphill both ways? |
| 02:21.28 | Wobin | grats Shirik! |
| 02:21.39 | Shirik | :( |
| 02:21.40 | Wobin | shirik: how many towers up? |
| 02:21.47 | Shirik | fuall |
| 02:23.29 | Wobin | who wants to see a bathtub full of brains |
| 02:23.36 | Shirik | noty |
| 02:23.51 | sacarasc | Wobin: I did it a few months ago, you may have read about it on some WoW news sites. |
| 02:24.10 | Wobin | like www.zomgwow.com? |
| 02:25.03 | sacarasc | I dunno, but I am Karatechop! |
| 02:27.46 | Wobin | if you, you're an idiot =P |
| 02:28.08 | Wobin | s/if you/if so/ |
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| 02:49.03 | Kraps | a guildy just snatched essence of gossamer from under me :'( |
| 02:49.23 | Kraps | for his offset |
| 02:49.38 | Kraps | on an alt |
| 02:49.45 | Kraps | GAH |
| 02:58.24 | sacarasc | Hah. |
| 02:58.29 | sacarasc | Your guildy sucks. |
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| 03:03.00 | Kraps | thanks for the tip |
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| 03:28.10 | ZorbaTHut | whee, my damage shield just broke a sheep. *how does that happen* |
| 03:28.41 | Dagmar | Fun and exciting race conditions |
| 03:30.23 | Thunder_Child | ZorbaTHut, periodic dmg? |
| 03:30.43 | ZorbaTHut | thunder, nope, it was explicitly Damage Shield, not Deep Wounds |
| 03:30.47 | Thunder_Child | eg, dot triggered off of a reflective priest shild |
| 03:30.57 | ZorbaTHut | PvE :) |
| 03:31.06 | Thunder_Child | no idea then |
| 03:31.33 | Dagmar | Race condition |
| 03:31.46 | Dagmar | Just like my pet will sometimes break my own ice trap |
| 03:33.28 | Wobin | Kraps: why didn't you boot him? |
| 03:33.49 | Kraps | i'm just a member? |
| 03:34.09 | Wobin | and he's a guild leader? =P |
| 03:34.29 | Wobin | what was his excuse to roll on an item for an offspec over a mainspec? |
| 03:34.33 | Dagmar | Time for an accidental misdirect or two |
| 03:34.40 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: ping |
| 03:34.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: pong |
| 03:34.53 | Shirik | halp |
| 03:34.58 | Shirik | emerge is giving me a strange message |
| 03:35.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 03:35.27 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/117513 |
| 03:35.31 | Shirik | I simply don't understand it |
| 03:36.39 | ScytheBlade1 | why git requires svn (or svn requires git) I'm not sure.. |
| 03:36.42 | Dagmar | So you've installed subversion? |
| 03:36.55 | ScytheBlade1 | try to add --newuse to the emerge |
| 03:37.23 | Shirik | I have subversion, yes |
| 03:37.45 | Shirik | I'm currently +dso, I guess it's asking to change to -dso? |
| 03:37.48 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 03:37.50 | Dagmar | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262031 |
| 03:37.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I would believe so |
| 03:37.59 | Shirik | time to go look up wtf dso is |
| 03:38.01 | Dagmar | Pretty much the exact same issue there |
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| 03:38.06 | ScytheBlade1 | dynamic shared object |
| 03:38.10 | ScytheBlade1 | aka .so |
| 03:38.21 | Dagmar | Comment #4 has the solution |
| 03:38.30 | Shirik | +dso |
| 03:38.30 | Shirik | Global: |
| 03:38.35 | Shirik | Lol at no details |
| 03:38.45 | Dagmar | Yeah it's a little cracked out |
| 03:38.55 | Dagmar | You could probably safely override it |
| 03:38.58 | Shirik | Comment #4 is a HORRIBLE solution |
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| 03:39.19 | Shirik | however, I know how to change my use flags |
| 03:39.19 | Shirik | so |
| 03:39.24 | Shirik | I just didn't understand wtf it was asking |
| 03:39.34 | ScytheBlade1 | It's asking you to rebuild svn without DSOs |
| 03:40.55 | Dagmar | Kinda weird that it wants a static svn, but whatever |
| 03:41.51 | Shirik | yeah well |
| 03:41.54 | Shirik | git is fucked up anyway |
| 03:42.12 | ScytheBlade1 | you know |
| 03:42.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I bet if you used it for any amount of time longer than 30m |
| 03:42.23 | ScytheBlade1 | You'd change your mind |
| 03:42.46 | Shirik | .... shit |
| 03:42.57 | Shirik | Conflict: 6 blocks |
| 03:43.18 | ScytheBlade1 | seriously |
| 03:43.26 | ScytheBlade1 | drop gentoo at earliest convience |
| 03:43.36 | Shirik | [uninstall ] perl-core/Compress-Zlib-2.015 USE="-test" |
| 03:43.36 | Shirik | [blocks b ] perl-core/Compress-Zlib ("perl-core/Compress-Zlib" is blocking perl-core/IO-Compress-2.020) |
| 03:43.42 | Shirik | ... |
| 03:43.45 | Shirik | you would think it could figure it out |
| 03:44.47 | Shirik | I don't even know why I have git installed |
| 03:47.54 | Dagmar | Time to shoot it |
| 03:52.03 | Conexion | Man, typos can really get ya when coding x_x |
| 03:52.19 | Conexion | note to self, it is movable, not moveable x_x lol |
| 03:55.15 | Arrowmaster | thats extremely stupid that on gentoo you need subversion to install git-core, why isnt git-svn seperate from git-core like it is on a sane disto like debian |
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| 03:56.20 | proteus | I know this is a bit specific, but does anyone know of an Ace3 api reference with detailed syntax? |
| 03:57.14 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ |
| 03:58.37 | proteus | Well, I tried there. While it's fairly detailed, it's lacking. For example, the AceConsole:Print says that the arguments can contain values to print. However, it doesn't say the method for printing them in the output string. Is it C style string formatting, or LUA? |
| 03:58.47 | krka | proteus: LUA, what's that? Did you mean to say Lua? :-D |
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| 03:59.36 | proteus | I know it's an auto response, but it was caps for emphasis. |
| 03:59.43 | Arrowmaster | neither |
| 03:59.52 | Dezzimal | can anyone help me with this notation? if vampiric embrace is {3,14}, shadowform is {3,19} then what would penance be |
| 04:00.13 | Dezzimal | I assume 3 is the tree and I'm not sure how talents are enumerated |
| 04:00.13 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt do any string formating, it just does a tostring() on all the arguments |
| 04:01.05 | Arrowmaster | Dezzimal: left to right, top to bottem, i think |
| 04:01.11 | Dezzimal | I guess so |
| 04:01.26 | proteus | So (considering d == 2) then: self:Print("hello world", d) would print `hello world2`? |
| 04:01.46 | Arrowmaster | 'hello world, 2' i think |
| 04:02.23 | Arrowmaster | you could always just look at the code |
| 04:02.27 | Arrowmaster | its not complex |
| 04:02.49 | proteus | Hmm. maybe you can explain this then... in c and some other languages you can do something like print("hello %s", d) (where d == "world") would print `hello world` |
| 04:03.00 | proteus | and that's kind of what i was hoping to be able to accomplish |
| 04:03.52 | Arrowmaster | AceConsole-3.0:Print() is not anything like a standard print function |
| 04:04.25 | Arrowmaster | actually im perty sure it even prefixed the addon name to the line |
| 04:13.52 | Wobin | interesting: http://straightforwardinacrookedworld.blogspot.com/2009/07/daggs-pay-up-and-move-on.html |
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| 04:20.28 | Conexion | How might I check to see if another addon is using another object? For example, If another addon is using the map, I want to be able to provide an alternative way to show my object |
| 04:20.52 | Conexion | Or would the user just have to check an option telling me that they need the other way? |
| 04:22.30 | Ackis | http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_blizzcon09contest_home.html |
| 04:26.16 | AbsolutRayne | I find it pretty backwards that I get banned for 'Trolling', but the other person banned in the Process is evading on another account, but isnt getting in trouble for it. |
| 04:26.54 | Arrowmaster | does it make you feel better knowing ackis is perma banned? |
| 04:27.04 | AbsolutRayne | No, Ackis is good people. |
| 04:27.21 | bleeter | AbsolutRayne: report them for ban evasion. |
| 04:27.31 | AbsolutRayne | bleeter: Did |
| 04:27.37 | Kraps | Wobin: ping |
| 04:27.48 | Wobin | ? |
| 04:28.03 | Conexion | Is there a way to reset the saved variables on an addon? |
| 04:28.22 | bleeter | Conexion: like, exit the game and remove the files? |
| 04:28.28 | Kraps | it was a weird situation, but i just let it go |
| 04:28.47 | Conexion | bleeter: Well, where does WoW save your addon's variables? |
| 04:29.06 | bleeter | WTF/Account/SavedVariables, it's somewhere else under Vista, iirc |
| 04:29.07 | Conexion | because it isn't in your addon folder |
| 04:29.23 | Conexion | Awesome :) |
| 04:29.25 | Conexion | Thanks |
| 04:29.33 | AbsolutRayne | Anyone else bracing for a huge disapointment with the new instance? |
| 04:29.53 | bleeter | AbsolutRayne: no, my sub expired and I cbf |
| 04:30.47 | bleeter | some of my mates' subs expired too, and they cbf either |
| 04:30.55 | AbsolutRayne | cant be...f? |
| 04:31.19 | bleeter | flummoxed |
| 04:31.27 | AbsolutRayne | :P |
| 04:31.44 | bleeter | which, afaik, is beyond being flummoxed ;) |
| 04:31.52 | AbsolutRayne | Either way, im not really looking forward to it. FFS, one of the boss fight cant be AoEd down. :/ |
| 04:32.00 | ajmitch | bleeter: but it has hogger, so it must be awesome |
| 04:32.34 | bleeter | ajmitch: does it have heroic VC? |
| 04:32.52 | ajmitch | no idea, don't care enough |
| 04:34.14 | bleeter | yeah if that stuff had been in wotlk release, might be caring... but unless Blizz credit me with 1 month to come back and try out 3.2 (based upon time of accepting offer, not when offer's made), can't see myself playing WoW again until 4.0 |
| 04:35.10 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swagga |
| 04:35.11 | ajmitch | was very close to letting the subscription lapse |
| 04:36.56 | bleeter | Shirik: is that a failure to spell 'swagger' correctly (as reading UD would indicate) |
| 04:37.30 | Thunder_Child | i need to make sure i stay away from the malls tomorrow. it's going to be mobbed |
| 04:37.35 | Shirik | the contents were actually fun :( |
| 04:37.37 | Shirik | got deleted |
| 04:37.52 | bleeter | mobs Thunder_Child today |
| 04:38.10 | Nechckn | The huge day after Batille day rush, Thunder_Child? |
| 04:38.15 | Thunder_Child | you are not 50K harry potter fans bleeter |
| 04:38.39 | Shirik | last HPbook? |
| 04:39.15 | Thunder_Child | *shrug* i dont keep track of what movie goes to what book |
| 04:39.44 | Nechckn | But I thought we were in the midst of a global Ultimate Depression... surely all of those types of places must be empty and, or, closed. |
| 04:40.11 | Thunder_Child | that wording hurts my brain Nechckn |
| 04:42.00 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: I guess that's your fault for centering your life around malls |
| 04:42.00 | Nechckn | Words, in general, hurt my brain |
| 04:42.13 | bleeter | is thankful that such behaviour's not a feature of his life |
| 04:42.21 | bleeter | :P |
| 04:42.30 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, i live in between 2 of the larger known malls in LA |
| 04:42.43 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: poor bugger you! :P |
| 04:42.56 | Thunder_Child | damn right |
| 04:43.37 | Nechckn | Oh come now... nothing like a little retailitization to perk you up when you are feeling down. |
| 04:43.51 | Thunder_Child | huh? |
| 04:43.58 | bleeter | retail therapy |
| 04:44.06 | Nechckn | bleeter just because standing in the meadown is the highlight of your say.... |
| 04:44.08 | bleeter | I can do that on teh intarwebs don't need no stinking mall |
| 04:44.11 | Thunder_Child | thats what the web is for |
| 04:44.19 | Nechckn | gah... s/say/day/ |
| 04:44.26 | bleeter | meadown? |
| 04:44.34 | Nechckn | That too |
| 04:44.44 | Nechckn | blow.me. |
| 04:45.02 | Thunder_Child | the only thing the mall is good for is fitting new clothes...then going home and buying them online |
| 04:45.10 | Nechckn | prepares to swim-by bleeter's house |
| 04:45.23 | bleeter | haha 200m up the side of a hill, would like to see you try! |
| 04:45.24 | Nechckn | "Ima pop a cap in your wool." |
| 04:46.37 | Nechckn | is in an unusually combative mood |
| 04:46.57 | Nechckn | Come on Shirik, it's jello wrestling time! |
| 04:47.17 | bleeter | Nechckn: oO we just had jello fights in #guifications... mind you was more over shots of jello |
| 04:47.30 | Nechckn | Jello Wrestling; the only true way to prove your manhood. |
| 04:47.38 | Thunder_Child | is by watching |
| 04:47.45 | Thunder_Child | women do it |
| 04:47.48 | Thunder_Child | naked |
| 04:47.51 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: pls send pics |
| 04:47.59 | bleeter | 'jello or gtfo' |
| 04:48.00 | Nechckn | Bah.. any fool can do that, Thunder_Child |
| 04:48.44 | Nechckn | Real men put on their Speedos and get to action to prove their... um... "prowess". =) |
| 04:49.04 | Thunder_Child | sure, against a woman |
| 04:49.33 | Nechckn | Only a manly man can pin another dude in a Jello fight! |
| 04:49.41 | Nechckn | ;-) |
| 04:49.52 | Thunder_Child | it's not that hard |
| 04:50.20 | Thunder_Child | grab head of hair, place head in bottom of jello pool, win |
| 04:50.32 | Thunder_Child | s/hair of head/ |
| 04:50.36 | Thunder_Child | fail |
| 04:50.40 | bleeter | wtf |
| 04:50.50 | bleeter | I think I need to leave.. .this convo's too weird even for me |
| 04:51.18 | Thunder_Child | lies |
| 04:52.39 | bleeter | nice xkcd again today |
| 04:53.25 | Wobin | mmm |
| 04:53.25 | Wobin | http://www.lovintheoven.com/2009/07/black-bottom-cupcakes.html |
| 04:53.27 | Wobin | these look good |
| 04:53.44 | Nechckn | Nothing says lovin' like something tastey from Wobin's oven. |
| 04:53.51 | Nechckn | (or so I am told) |
| 04:54.10 | Nechckn | And those do look yummy!! |
| 04:55.07 | Wobin | It's true |
| 04:55.29 | Nechckn | throw some dark chocolate on top and I'd be all over 'em |
| 04:55.47 | Nechckn | something to fill the gap heheheh |
| 04:56.20 | Wobin | eh |
| 04:56.22 | Wobin | if I was to make it |
| 04:56.26 | bleeter | Wobin: I tried the new vegemite, it's shite! |
| 04:56.31 | Wobin | I'd use proper dark chocolate instead of cocoa powder |
| 04:56.35 | Wobin | bleeter: yeah =P |
| 04:56.39 | bleeter | Wobin: and I'm convinced Kraft released it purely for that rhyme ;) |
| 04:56.54 | Wobin | Did you suggest that as the new name? |
| 04:56.57 | Nechckn | Now you're talking, Wobin!! Always a bit better, imnsho. |
| 04:57.17 | bleeter | Wobin: 'Shyte'.. I can see that working |
| 04:58.13 | Wobin | Nechckn: My method of baking tends to be to replace the majority of ingredients with the stupidly expensive stuff |
| 04:58.18 | Wobin | Like chocolate |
| 05:00.52 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~` |
| 05:00.56 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~ |
| 05:00.57 | purl | ACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat shirik. |
| 05:04.05 | Thunder_Child | seriously, any program that will not let you type out the path should die |
| 05:04.21 | bleeter | Wobin: and duly entered into the comp ;) |
| 05:04.32 | Wobin | hehe |
| 05:04.34 | Wobin | I hope you win |
| 05:04.39 | bleeter | My entry: "Shyte: Tastes like shit, spelled a bit different so can rhyme with Vegemite (also, note usage of letter Y as in rhYme, marketing possibilites there)" |
| 05:05.00 | bleeter | not bad for 25 words or less ;) |
| 05:05.02 | Wobin | It'll be fantastic to say to forners "Hey I just bought you a jar of Shyte, and am mailing it to you as we speak" |
| 05:05.08 | Shirik | ..... |
| 05:05.13 | bleeter | Wobin: bwhahaha |
| 05:05.16 | Shirik | So I reverted some vandalism by this anonymous user |
| 05:05.19 | Shirik | on wikipedia |
| 05:05.27 | Shirik | a few minutes later I get a message from him |
| 05:05.37 | Shirik | so I expect some backtalk, etc. |
| 05:05.46 | Shirik | "I'm shocked at the speed at which you guys detect vandalism. Cheers!" |
| 05:05.48 | Wobin | was it epic? |
| 05:05.50 | Shirik | ...wtf? |
| 05:05.58 | Wobin | hehe |
| 05:06.21 | Wobin | There'll be a write up in some newspaper on how 'on the ball' Wikipedia editors are =) |
| 05:06.45 | Wobin | Shirik has SAVED THE INTERNET |
| 05:06.45 | Shirik | I'm not even sure how to respond to that |
| 05:06.47 | bleeter | Wobin: only 'coz they're trained in wowwiki speed ;) |
| 05:07.10 | Shirik | in all honesty |
| 05:07.17 | Shirik | if it isn't detected in the first 15-20 seconds |
| 05:07.24 | Wobin | it never will be =) |
| 05:07.25 | Shirik | it probably won't be detected for another week |
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| 05:07.49 | Nechckn | um... "something akin to Vegemite and Butter" EWWWW |
| 05:07.52 | Shirik | that's why whenever I revert something, I don't go back to recent changes, instead I look at the user's contribs log |
| 05:08.06 | Shirik | because there are very few vandals that can "eat just one" |
| 05:08.07 | Nechckn | re: the new Vegemite product thingy |
| 05:08.30 | BWMerlin | there is nothing wrong with the old vegemite |
| 05:09.07 | Nechckn | not saying there is... the "new one" sounds evil, though |
| 05:09.55 | Wobin | Nechckn: It's vegemite and cream cheese blend |
| 05:10.14 | BWMerlin | vomits |
| 05:10.15 | Cairenn | so, umm, AbsolutRayne? what'd you get banned for, anyway? (ie thread link) |
| 05:10.41 | AbsolutRayne | One sec hun, im arguing with Officers in my guild because im tired of getting sat. |
| 05:11.01 | Nechckn | Wobin I see that... just going from the wikipedia page describing it |
| 05:11.05 | Cairenn | *hug* |
| 05:11.37 | Nechckn | "The ingredients include cream cheese, which gives it a more velvety texture, but it is not a cheesy flavoured vegemite. It tastes like Vegemite & butter." |
| 05:12.15 | BWMerlin | then why not have Vegemite and butter then |
| 05:12.31 | sacarasc | Or even better, Marmite! |
| 05:12.48 | BWMerlin | blasphemy |
| 05:12.49 | AbsolutRayne | Cairenn: The newest Post Your UI thread on WoWs forums, someone named Cali came out of nowhere and basically started trolling everyone on Aethetics in UIs, and all this nonsense. I ended up getting too into it, trying to troll him / her back, and ended up catching the Banstick at the end of the deal. |
| 05:12.58 | sacarasc | (Real Marmite, not the stuff branded as Marmite down under.) |
| 05:13.10 | Cairenn | AbsolutRayne: blargh |
| 05:13.16 | Wobin | sacarasc: too fattening? |
| 05:13.22 | Wobin | er |
| 05:13.26 | Wobin | BWMerlin: ^ |
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| 05:13.56 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 05:14.32 | AbsolutRayne | Cairenn: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18315579169&sid=1&pageNo=12#226 Ish caught the last thing I said before the ban, when Cali basically Markered out part of my UI claiming it made it look better. |
| 05:16.15 | Cairenn | oy |
| 05:17.21 | AbsolutRayne | shrugs |
| 05:17.28 | AbsolutRayne | Oh well, 3 day Vacation |
| 05:20.24 | AbsolutRayne | Any thoughts on this before I upload it? http://hdimage.org/images/x8nqldp16o51ckd5ijsc.jpg Ignore the Chat Text, its not like that now, I was just using it as an Example to someone. |
| 05:22.34 | Shirik | bleeter: Is wowwiki really that bad? |
| 05:22.37 | Shirik | I never bothered to look |
| 05:22.51 | bleeter | Shirik: nah, they're one of the few good wikis afaik |
| 05:23.15 | Shirik | yeah I would think there isn't much to deface there |
| 05:23.22 | Shirik | except by people whom don't like wow |
| 05:23.28 | Shirik | and if they don't like wow why are they there in the first place |
| 05:23.37 | Shirik | maybe blizz's page gets hit hard and similar |
| 05:23.39 | bleeter | lots of people defacing realm and guild pages, iirc |
| 05:23.41 | Shirik | but not much of the "content" |
| 05:23.44 | Shirik | ah yeah, realm and guild too |
| 05:25.58 | bleeter | BWMerlin: then why not have Vegemite and butter then << precisely. Useless product is useless. |
| 05:26.15 | Wobin | yeah, I remember our guild page getting defaced a lot =P |
| 05:26.18 | Wobin | it was so sad =P |
| 05:26.23 | bleeter | defaces Wobin |
| 05:26.32 | Wobin | that was so sad, bleeter =P |
| 05:32.47 | Thunder_Child | faces Wobin |
| 05:33.07 | Wobin | =) |
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| 05:36.05 | Shirik | semi-faces Wobin |
| 05:37.26 | Wobin | =\ |
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| 06:01.42 | Shirik | Wobin: More like :, |
| 06:01.50 | Shirik | =/ would be a full face |
| 06:02.16 | Wobin | =| |
| 06:02.47 | Shirik | that would also be a full face |
| 06:02.50 | Shirik | unless it was intended to be =D |
| 06:02.55 | Shirik | then maybe it would be ok |
| 06:02.56 | End | =O |
| 06:03.03 | Shirik | no beacuse that would end up being =( |
| 06:03.15 | Shirik | or = ) |
| 06:03.20 | Shirik | depending on which half you took |
| 06:03.25 | Shirik | I find it easier to take out the bottom half |
| 06:03.26 | End | = |
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| 06:07.33 | Cairenn | what the hell? http://ihasahotdog.com/2009/07/14/funny-dog-pictures-regret-view/ |
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| 06:07.51 | bluspacecow | any Curse people on ? |
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| 06:08.02 | bluspacecow | wanna know how to change my Curse acct username |
| 06:08.39 | Cairenn | huggles bluspacecow then pings Kaelten and ckknight and Kody- |
| 06:08.53 | bluspacecow | oh hai dere |
| 06:09.00 | Fisker | y helo thar |
| 06:09.39 | Nechckn | bluspacecow You can just email support@curse.com from the email acct associated with the Acct and ask. |
| 06:09.52 | bluspacecow | alrighty then i'll do that |
| 06:13.51 | Shirik | huggles Cairenn and then pings Dolby and Shiibot |
| 06:13.59 | Cairenn | huggles Shirik |
| 06:14.08 | Fisker | wtf |
| 06:14.40 | bluspacecow | hmm |
| 06:15.46 | Fisker | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/32d1e49f8519da9a1760fe95a9e42768.jpg |
| 06:15.48 | Fisker | i wtf'd |
| 06:16.32 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 06:16.44 | bluspacecow | that desktop should have the PTR launcher on the start bar |
| 06:16.46 | bluspacecow | as well |
| 06:17.02 | bluspacecow | cause that's the best way to get new builds pushed out to the PTR |
| 06:17.09 | AbsolutRayne | Im still really iffy about Windows 7 |
| 06:17.27 | Corrodias | that new taskbar has me worried |
| 06:17.31 | Corrodias | it looks too much like a mac's dock |
| 06:17.38 | bluspacecow | why ? |
| 06:18.40 | Corrodias | because of the large icons. but i have yet to see one with programs actually open. |
| 06:18.41 | AbsolutRayne | Dont know, Just cant really decide if I like it. Im still hugging onto my Vista64 |
| 06:20.02 | jnwhiteh | Cruciformer: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/FontInstance/GetJustifyH and http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/FontInstance/GetJustifyV show how we use the values field |
| 06:20.09 | jnwhiteh | just updated them, I mean |
| 06:20.10 | bluspacecow | no trashcan tho |
| 06:20.42 | bluspacecow | still looks like windows taskbar IMHO |
| 06:20.43 | Fisker | err Corrodias |
| 06:20.48 | Fisker | that taskbar has programs open? |
| 06:20.59 | bluspacecow | yes it does |
| 06:21.18 | Corrodias | does it have no quicklaunch buttons? |
| 06:21.20 | bluspacecow | between the MSN looking icon and the win amp icon is a bar |
| 06:21.45 | bluspacecow | im guessing the icons by the chrome logo are quicklaunch buttons |
| 06:21.49 | Corrodias | there's another bar between Steam and mIRC. i thought that was just for spacing or something. |
| 06:22.11 | Fisker | because i have several windows |
| 06:22.19 | bluspacecow | and a white triangle above steam |
| 06:22.23 | Fisker | If you see the WMP button then that one is not launched |
| 06:22.33 | Fisker | every other app is launched |
| 06:23.17 | Corrodias | so they combined the functions of quicklaunch and ... application buttons or whatever they're called? |
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| 06:23.38 | Ackis | lol I started playing RoM :( |
| 06:24.21 | Fisker | yeah Corrodias |
| 06:24.38 | Fisker | fix my start menu Ackis |
| 06:24.42 | bluspacecow | ooo curse client 4.0 sneak peek |
| 06:24.43 | Ackis | no |
| 06:24.44 | bluspacecow | also for mac |
| 06:24.47 | bluspacecow | "It's a completely native Cocoa app targeting 10.4 and will run on both intel and PPC macs" |
| 06:24.47 | Fisker | yes Ackis |
| 06:24.49 | bluspacecow | :D |
| 06:24.50 | Corrodias | what do you do if you want to launch another instance of one of those? |
| 06:25.06 | Fisker | middle-click it |
| 06:26.06 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowace.com/announcements/curse-client-4-0-sneak-peak/ |
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| 06:31.54 | Wobin | Kaelten: CC4.0 looks snazzy |
| 06:32.39 | Grum | loot hot!! |
| 06:32.46 | Grum | err s/t /ks / |
| 06:34.25 | Fisker | slaps Grum around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:34.29 | Fisker | you failed |
| 06:34.33 | Grum | failed |
| 06:34.34 | bluspacecow | *Loots Hot for Grum* |
| 06:34.39 | Grum | but i did that well! |
| 06:34.47 | Grum | omg loot all your own clothes! |
| 06:34.50 | Elkano | and I can confirm it works a lot better then cc3 ^^ |
| 06:35.21 | bluspacecow | [Hot] <----------------- Trinket .... "On Equip : |
| 06:35.27 | bluspacecow | -_- |
| 06:35.35 | Grum | Elkano: OMG giv |
| 06:35.59 | bluspacecow | [Hot] <------------------ trinket "+30 Hotness On Equip : Makes you look super sexy" |
| 06:36.07 | bluspacecow | anyone rolling on that ? |
| 06:36.08 | Grum | equips bluspacecow |
| 06:36.14 | Grum | whoo i just got +1hit permanently |
| 06:36.28 | bluspacecow | ...... |
| 06:36.35 | bluspacecow | get me off your head |
| 06:36.36 | Grum | oh +1hot :( |
| 06:37.00 | bluspacecow | you need to equip the trinket to get teh bonus |
| 06:37.19 | Grum | puts bluspacecow in the trinket slot |
| 06:37.23 | Grum | \o/ |
| 06:37.42 | bluspacecow | the trinket is called [Hot] not bluspacecow |
| 06:38.54 | bluspacecow | *equips [Hot] on Grum* |
| 06:39.00 | bluspacecow | ~hot Grum |
| 06:39.06 | Grum | cries |
| 06:39.09 | bluspacecow | umm purl |
| 06:39.10 | Grum | it hurts ... buuuuuuuuuurns :( |
| 06:39.37 | Thunder_Child | ~fail bluspacecow |
| 06:39.38 | purl | bluspacecow, you Fail! |
| 06:39.43 | bluspacecow | rofls |
| 06:39.54 | bluspacecow | ~fondle Thunder_Child |
| 06:41.25 | Fisker | trips Thunder_Child |
| 06:41.30 | Fisker | "oops" |
| 06:43.11 | Thunder_Child | you also fail Fisker |
| 06:43.29 | bluspacecow | ~fail Fisker |
| 06:43.30 | purl | Fisker, you Fail! |
| 06:43.33 | Fisker | ~fail bluspacecow |
| 06:43.34 | purl | bluspacecow, you Fail! |
| 06:43.38 | Fisker | ~roulette |
| 06:43.39 | purl | ACTION watches fisker pull the trigger: Click! |
| 06:43.43 | Fisker | your turn |
| 06:43.45 | bluspacecow | ..... |
| 06:43.54 | bluspacecow | ~beard Fisker |
| 06:43.59 | Fisker | ~roulette bluspacecow |
| 06:43.59 | purl | ACTION watches bluspacecow pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 06:43.59 | Fisker | die |
| 06:46.22 | Fisker | what are you going to do bluspacecow ? |
| 06:46.51 | Wobin | bleed? |
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| 06:47.17 | bluspacecow | :D |
| 06:47.41 | bluspacecow | *lies on the floor with blood seeping from his forehead* |
| 06:47.44 | bluspacecow | Res pls |
| 06:48.10 | Fisker | shakes Wobin's hand |
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| 06:52.23 | Tewan | Question |
| 06:52.27 | Tewan | Is there a way to |
| 06:52.36 | Tewan | like, target the last target via a slash command? |
| 06:53.02 | Fisker | /targetlasttarget |
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| 06:53.33 | Fisker | if you're tabbing through mobs you can also shift+tab |
| 06:53.37 | Tewan | Thanks. :) |
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| 06:55.08 | Grum | shifttabs Fisker |
| 06:59.26 | Fisker | herro Grum |
| 07:04.56 | Zyndrome | http://i41.tinypic.com/ae8ugx.jpg ;o |
| 07:05.28 | bluspacecow | *stares at it* |
| 07:05.31 | Thunder_Child | yes, they are the same color |
| 07:06.19 | Grum | the green and blue .. yeah the same color indeed |
| 07:06.33 | bluspacecow | *licks it* |
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| 07:14.20 | Wobin | does it taste psychadelic? |
| 07:15.02 | bluspacecow | no dusty mostly |
| 07:16.49 | Wobin | you need to dust your monitor with more drugs |
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| 07:28.36 | Wobin | http://www.sbs.com.au/rockwiz/past/112/Kate-Miller-Heidke |
| 07:28.38 | Wobin | win |
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| 07:45.06 | Mike-N-Go | Hello guys. |
| 07:45.40 | Mike-N-Go | What was the name of the addon that tracked the progression of Isle of Quel'Danas stages? |
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| 07:50.26 | bluspacecow | not a clue |
| 07:50.47 | Mike-N-Go | I think it was SunwellEventProgress with the site http://us.gorgonnash.info/index.html; but it is now offline. |
| 07:52.06 | bluspacecow | tried archive.org ? |
| 07:55.11 | Mike-N-Go | Yes. |
| 07:55.16 | Mike-N-Go | http://web.archive.org/web/20080209211826/http://www.gorgonnash.info/ |
| 07:55.24 | Mike-N-Go | I do not speak that language. |
| 07:55.29 | Mike-N-Go | "Aktueller Sunwell Spendenstand" |
| 07:55.50 | Mike-N-Go | The us version of the site is not in the archive. |
| 07:55.54 | bluspacecow | http://web.archive.org/web/20080209211826/http://www.gorgonnash.info/Spendenstand.zip |
| 07:56.09 | bluspacecow | let me take a look at that lua |
| 07:56.11 | Mike-N-Go | What language is that? |
| 07:56.19 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 07:56.32 | Kalroth | taken in context, you'd think it's easy to guess what "Aktueller Sunwell Spendenstand" means |
| 07:56.33 | bluspacecow | running it through google translate .... |
| 07:56.47 | bluspacecow | its german |
| 07:56.48 | Thunder_Child | german maybe |
| 07:57.10 | bluspacecow | what you need it for Mike ? |
| 07:57.33 | Thunder_Child | it was rather easy. there was only spanish french english and german listed on that page |
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| 07:58.01 | Kalroth | And yes it's German :) |
| 07:58.07 | Mike-N-Go | It is German! |
| 07:58.20 | bluspacecow | the code looks easy to understand despite being in german |
| 07:58.30 | Kalroth | Aktueller Sunwell Spendenstand = Current Sunwell Progression (duh!) |
| 07:58.59 | bluspacecow | if you can find a copy elsewhere you could just import each file of that addon into google translate and tell it translate for you then save an english version back |
| 07:59.08 | bluspacecow | *if you can't find ... |
| 07:59.08 | Mike-N-Go | I was thinking about an addon that would do SunwellEventProgress to Wintergrasp start time. |
| 07:59.35 | Mike-N-Go | I happen to have the SunwellEventProgress english version in one of my file archives. |
| 07:59.40 | bluspacecow | ahh so you wanted to examine its code |
| 07:59.55 | Kalroth | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/wintertime.aspx doesn't work? |
| 08:00.15 | bluspacecow | "spendenstand.zip" is version 1.1 of SunwellEventProgress btw |
| 08:01.05 | Mike-N-Go | Yah, I have not made a web site that pares a .lua file before. |
| 08:01.32 | bluspacecow | ahhh i see you want to do some learning on it |
| 08:01.45 | Mike-N-Go | The concept of the mod would be to view the WG start time out of game, like in a web site or RSS. |
| 08:01.53 | bluspacecow | what version do you have in your archives |
| 08:01.57 | bluspacecow | hmm |
| 08:02.16 | bluspacecow | look up Tweet craft ... the authors of that posted a technical document of how it works |
| 08:02.22 | bluspacecow | you might wanna do that |
| 08:02.42 | Mike-N-Go | And SunwellEventProgress is the closest addon and process to what I had in mind. |
| 08:02.52 | bluspacecow | also have a look at an addon called PublishMySkills |
| 08:03.00 | bluspacecow | that one works with a URL you get in game |
| 08:03.11 | bluspacecow | that you paste in a browser to update your skills online |
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| 08:05.20 | Mike-N-Go | The part of the addon I have not done before is the web-based part; an upload of the SV file and displaying the parsed results on a 'site. |
| 08:05.21 | Thunder_Child | http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/wacky-candy/be0a/?cpg=98H |
| 08:09.46 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks for the insights. |
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| 08:14.12 | Mike-N-Go | bluspacecow: and the english version of SunwellEventProgress I have is 0.3. |
| 08:14.20 | bluspacecow | ok |
| 08:14.32 | bluspacecow | is that what it says int he toc file ? |
| 08:15.06 | bluspacecow | .toc file look under "## Version" field |
| 08:15.48 | bluspacecow | ok you might need to translate the german version of 1.1 |
| 08:30.39 | Wobin | Mike-N-Go: you realise that the only way to keep the WG timer up to date is to always have someone on that's uploading the information constantly? |
| 08:31.00 | Wobin | Since each user doesn't know if someone else is uploading, or has just logged off |
| 08:31.04 | Wobin | or on |
| 08:31.23 | Mike-N-Go | Wobin: That is where a big user base and auto-uploader comes in handy. |
| 08:31.31 | Wobin | So they have to assume they are the only updater |
| 08:31.41 | Mike-N-Go | How so do you mean? |
| 08:31.44 | Wobin | and so, your server will get hammered by constant updates |
| 08:31.59 | Wobin | Well, I log in with the addon, I don't know if anyone else is running the addon at that moment |
| 08:32.10 | Wobin | and if they are, I don't know if they just logged off or not |
| 08:32.20 | Wobin | so I have to update the data with my news |
| 08:32.24 | Wobin | just in case |
| 08:32.36 | Wobin | and how often does the data get updated? |
| 08:32.51 | Mike-N-Go | The addon and site is currently in concept form. |
| 08:33.15 | Mike-N-Go | So I do not have an answer for that question. |
| 08:33.20 | Wobin | also, you'll run into the same issue that Tweetcraft has |
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| 08:33.30 | Wobin | in that people will have to reloadui in order to get information out |
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| 08:35.16 | Mike-N-Go | Either upload the SV file, or have the user copy-paste a string to the site. |
| 08:35.52 | Wobin | but for something that changes on an ongoing schedule, that's a lot of work for the players |
| 08:36.13 | Fisker | why did visa have to do this "Verified by Visa" shit? :E |
| 08:36.36 | Mike-N-Go | Been a while since I did WG; doesn't it start every 3 hours or so? |
| 08:37.08 | Wobin | this is for a WG -timer- right? |
| 08:37.21 | Mike-N-Go | A timer that updates a web site, yes. |
| 08:37.40 | Mike-N-Go | So users can view the WG start time outside of the game. |
| 08:41.07 | Mike-N-Go | Wobin: Does this seem like too much work for a 'timer'? :P |
| 08:41.31 | Wobin | when are you expecting your users to do the c&p? |
| 08:42.12 | Mike-N-Go | Whenever they feel like contributing. |
| 08:42.22 | Wobin | that's going to be... never, you realise |
| 08:42.29 | Mike-N-Go | shrugs |
| 08:43.12 | Mike-N-Go | My reasoning is this: If a user wants the site to reflect their servers' WG start time, they would, in theory, update it. |
| 08:56.34 | bluspacecow | you could alleviate the sever load via the user of an addon channel and a talking stick concept |
| 08:56.44 | bluspacecow | ie before it updates check who has it first |
| 08:57.46 | ZorbaTHut | mike, problem is that it doesn't make anyone's life easier to update the site |
| 08:58.13 | ZorbaTHut | if I have the information available to update the site, I am the single person who is least helped by assisting it. if I want to get information from the site, I am the single person who is least able to update it. |
| 08:58.29 | ZorbaTHut | you're gonna run straight into tragedy-of-the-commons here, unless you rig up a way to update it automatically. |
| 08:59.09 | Mike-N-Go | Another feature of the addon could be an email or text message at a specific time to WG start. |
| 08:59.56 | Mike-N-Go | The automatic update would be on reload of UI, like wowtweet. |
| 09:00.18 | Fisker | plants an explosive device on Mike-N-Go |
| 09:00.26 | Mike-N-Go | ~lart Fisker |
| 09:00.26 | purl | grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats Fisker until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with |
| 09:00.46 | Fisker | :( |
| 09:00.49 | Fisker | why so mean Mike-N-Go ? |
| 09:00.57 | Mike-N-Go | points at purl! |
| 09:01.14 | Mike-N-Go | shrugs, "I am not the one with the log!" |
| 09:01.14 | Fisker | you ordered it |
| 09:03.06 | bluspacecow | orders a fisker pizza |
| 09:04.35 | Fisker | nom nom |
| 09:05.29 | bluspacecow | you're eating yourself ? |
| 09:05.30 | bluspacecow | :D |
| 09:05.46 | Fisker | never pass a pizza with me as a topping |
| 09:05.55 | Mike-N-Go | Thank you all for your thoughts about this idea of a website based WG timer! |
| 09:07.57 | Fisker | :3? |
| 09:08.29 | Aqua | some ladies |
| 09:08.43 | Aqua | *sup |
| 09:08.57 | Aqua | Anyone in the mode for a raunchy joke? |
| 09:09.14 | bluspacecow | always |
| 09:10.01 | Aqua | How fast can a woman have sex? 68 mph. At 69, they tend to flip over and blow a rod. |
| 09:10.23 | bluspacecow | XD |
| 09:11.03 | Aqua | i lul'ed |
| 09:11.13 | Aqua | or lawl'ed |
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| 09:47.11 | Aqua | cheers for flaws in windows vista |
| 09:47.14 | Wobin | ... |
| 09:47.16 | Wobin | You know |
| 09:47.28 | Wobin | I think Windows Malicious Software thingie deleted XChat for me |
| 09:47.37 | Wobin | all of a sudden the exe was missing =P |
| 09:47.41 | Fisker | good job Microsoft |
| 09:47.47 | Fisker | mirc ftw |
| 09:47.48 | Aqua | oh i got one for you |
| 09:47.59 | Fisker | btw Wobin |
| 09:48.03 | Fisker | reminds me of their new anti-virus |
| 09:48.14 | Fisker | It found malware on my system |
| 09:48.19 | Fisker | and i was like "That's odd" |
| 09:48.41 | Fisker | Turns out the "malware" was "Win32/Wpakill" |
| 09:48.49 | Aqua | rofl |
| 09:48.50 | Fisker | nice try Microsoft :P |
| 09:48.54 | Wobin | well to them... =P |
| 09:49.07 | Aqua | MSDN ftw |
| 09:49.13 | Dagmar | Hey there's been worse |
| 09:49.25 | Dagmar | I've seen one that blew whistles on nfs client source code. |
| 09:49.36 | Dagmar | ...because hackers might be *thinking* about using it to hack something apparently. |
| 09:49.44 | Aqua | how about the bug with media playback that causes network congestion, got to love that one |
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| 09:53.09 | TopTop18 | Will a frame also register game events if it has no size? |
| 09:53.55 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 09:54.05 | nevcairiel | doesnt have to be visible either |
| 09:55.07 | Dagmar | I predict poor results with click events |
| 09:56.14 | TopTop18 | Dagmar, Only data sharing through the addon channel :D |
| 09:56.39 | TopTop18 | Thanks Nevcairiel :D |
| 09:57.51 | TopTop18 | Hmm if the frame has no size, it won't be drawn, so there can be no OnLoad script on it? Or does that work different? |
| 09:59.19 | nevcairiel | you can use OnLoad just fine |
| 10:01.10 | TopTop18 | Okay thanks for making things clear :D |
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| 10:11.16 | Mike-N-Go | Wow in Schools.. http://wowinschool.pbworks.com/ |
| 10:11.42 | Dagmar | Oh yes |
| 10:11.50 | Dagmar | Let's teach some kids theorycrafting |
| 10:11.53 | Mike-N-Go | It is about making a curriculum for students to learn via WoW. |
| 10:11.53 | Dagmar | Seriously. |
| 10:12.06 | Mike-N-Go | loled for 10 minutes. |
| 10:12.07 | Dagmar | A friend of mine's kid was stuggling with algebra |
| 10:12.14 | Fisker | no Mike-N-Go |
| 10:12.15 | Fisker | no. |
| 10:12.39 | Dagmar | Literally at the same spot I got mired in in the 9th grade because there was so little practical applications for that in reality |
| 10:13.03 | Dagmar | Suprise suprise I showed him how to calculate DPS with differentials and so on |
| 10:13.09 | Dagmar | NOW he has an interest. |
| 10:13.11 | Mike-N-Go | Fisker: Enlighten me; why no? |
| 10:13.27 | Dagmar | For some kids, WoW will *totally* get them into algebra and trig |
| 10:14.06 | Mike-N-Go | http://www.wow.com/2009/07/14/15-minutes-of-fame-learn-to-game-to-game-to-learn/ for the WoWInsider article. |
| 10:14.28 | Aelobin_ | "Software: 17 x $80 (estimated) = $1360 (Amazon.com - Full game - $71.98 (Battle Chest + Expansion)" |
| 10:14.31 | Aelobin_ | why do they need battle chests? |
| 10:15.02 | Dagmar | Probably for the literature aspect |
| 10:15.02 | Fisker | Why do they need the expansion? :3 |
| 10:15.16 | Fisker | No Mike-N-Go no. |
| 10:15.38 | Mike-N-Go | Don't you need to instal WoW 1.0 before 2.0, and 2.0 before 3.0? |
| 10:15.56 | Fisker | Not if you get it online |
| 10:16.06 | Mike-N-Go | Fisker: Your 'Nos' are disheartening. |
| 10:16.17 | Fisker | and the newer copies of WoW may have been repacked with new versions |
| 10:16.25 | nevcairiel | you can get a WoW Installer that directly installs 3.0.2 |
| 10:16.40 | nevcairiel | I dunno if they updated it for 3.1 |
| 10:16.53 | nevcairiel | (could've been 3.0.1 too, i dunno) |
| 10:17.14 | Dagmar | afaik you can slap wrath down atop the oldest copy of the game around, and it'll just patch the rest on it's own |
| 10:17.28 | Fisker | naw Dagmar |
| 10:17.30 | nevcairiel | I'm not sure the wrath installer contains the BC stuff |
| 10:17.31 | Fisker | just a new install |
| 10:17.33 | Dagmar | Regardless there's a licence issue |
| 10:17.40 | Fisker | WotLK is the whole game |
| 10:17.45 | Fisker | Classic, BC, WotLK |
| 10:17.56 | Dagmar | I figured as much but I wasn't sure |
| 10:18.03 | Dagmar | I barely paid attention to the discs |
| 10:18.53 | Dagmar | Since then I've just been building a NSIS package after patches |
| 10:19.18 | Mike-N-Go | ~nsis |
| 10:19.33 | Dagmar | Nullsoft's nice little installer maker |
| 10:19.58 | Dagmar | You can pretty much slap together somethign that will make you a gigantimungous install package |
| 10:20.33 | Dagmar | Yes I know. I like to keep even the system inventory on my XP box clean |
| 10:20.36 | nevcairiel | I have the installer and all patches on disc, i dont really reinstall often enough to make me an installer package out it |
| 10:20.46 | Dagmar | s/system/package/; |
| 10:20.51 | Fisker | i have a wotlk disk |
| 10:20.54 | Fisker | also i have internets |
| 10:21.13 | Mike-N-Go | How can one has an internets? |
| 10:21.50 | Dagmar | Mike-N-Go: It comes on those little AOL disks if you can still find a drive that will hold one |
| 10:22.01 | Mike-N-Go | is enlightened. |
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| 10:23.01 | Fisker | turns off the lights |
| 10:23.10 | nevcairiel | you're such a meany |
| 10:23.15 | nevcairiel | anyway, bbl |
| 10:23.18 | Mike-N-Go | ~poke |
| 10:23.30 | Mike-N-Go | ~poke everyone |
| 10:23.30 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind everyone, pokes everyone repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 10:23.37 | mikma | noes |
| 10:23.59 | Dagmar | Why does he cut down the tree? |
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| 10:24.20 | mikma | needs trees to poke with |
| 10:24.37 | Dagmar | I should have known not to ask. |
| 10:27.29 | Wobin | appears to have entered the conversation at exactly the right time |
| 10:28.12 | Mike-N-Go | explains to Wobin how purl poked everyone. |
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| 10:32.24 | Mike-N-Go | Good night. |
| 10:33.27 | mikma | wobin: _o/ |
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| 10:40.04 | mikma | http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details/37099 |
| 10:40.11 | mikma | perhaps the best ever created winamp visualization |
| 10:40.28 | Fisker | naw |
| 10:40.49 | Aelobin | i never played B&W :o |
| 10:40.53 | Aelobin | kept meaning to get it though |
| 10:40.57 | Dagmar | You didn't miss much. |
| 10:41.20 | Dagmar | It turns out that ol Peter was convinced his own poop smelled of roses, even back then |
| 10:41.24 | nevcairiel | the first one was kinda cool |
| 10:41.52 | Dagmar | ...and then you started playing it and realizing all the things the author said about it were basically hashish dreams. |
| 10:42.01 | Fisker | First one was quite nice yeah |
| 10:42.14 | Dagmar | It wasn't bad, but they really overhyped it's AI |
| 10:42.19 | mikma | yeah |
| 10:42.24 | mikma | the AI wasn't that great |
| 10:42.25 | Wobin | if you went in with no preconceived ideas, it was a great game |
| 10:42.29 | mikma | but the visualization is |
| 10:42.45 | Fisker | He needs to make a Dungeon Keeper 3 |
| 10:42.47 | Fisker | or B&W 3 |
| 10:42.51 | Fisker | and do a proper job this time |
| 10:43.08 | Wobin | or Fable 3 |
| 10:43.09 | mikma | dungeon keeper 2 xD |
| 10:43.09 | Fisker | instead of all that fable bullshit |
| 10:43.11 | Fisker | no Wobin |
| 10:43.14 | Fisker | FABLE BULLSHIT |
| 10:43.19 | Wobin | he needs to do Fable -right- |
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| 10:44.51 | Wobin | mikma: the plugin exe file is named JAmie_Durrant.exe |
| 10:44.56 | mikma | i know |
| 10:44.57 | Wobin | this is SUSPICIOUS |
| 10:45.11 | mikma | it is, but it's still the real deal i can assure you |
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| 10:45.27 | Dagmar | yeah I was not at all suprised to find that Fable's evil was G-rated |
| 10:45.43 | Dagmar | Can't give kids beer, but you're allowed to just slice one open for giggles? |
| 10:45.56 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 10:46.09 | mikma | hah |
| 10:46.49 | Dagmar | ...and what kind of evil gives women a lot of drinks and still has to give them a ring to get anywhere? |
| 10:47.58 | mikma | man |
| 10:48.31 | Dagmar | It would be cool if he'd just *once* actually use an AI that was deeper than a mudpuddle |
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| 11:01.11 | ecstasia | wobin? |
| 11:01.21 | Wobin | yeees? |
| 11:01.30 | ecstasia | watch out for roving tsunamis |
| 11:01.35 | Wobin | yeah =\ |
| 11:01.46 | Wobin | I'm somewhat of a distance from the coastline |
| 11:02.02 | ecstasia | at least this won't be like the big one a few years ago |
| 11:02.11 | ecstasia | that was a total freak event |
| 11:03.33 | Wobin | this one has seemed to have passed with little fanfare |
| 11:04.04 | ecstasia | i'm paranoid about tsunamis cause of family history is all |
| 11:04.16 | Wobin | Your family has a history of tsunamis? |
| 11:04.25 | Wobin | I didn't realise they were genetic =( |
| 11:04.44 | ecstasia | LOL nah my mum went through one when she was little |
| 11:04.54 | ecstasia | grew up hearing about it |
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| 11:54.26 | mikma | hmmm |
| 11:54.38 | mikma | now i wonder how can i make a toggle for winxp taskbar autohide |
| 12:01.49 | Dagmar | Why would you want a toggle? |
| 12:02.07 | Dagmar | Aren't you just basically *manually* hiding it and unhiding it at that point? |
| 12:04.32 | mikma | cause i want it to be a icon on desktop / in taskbar that i can use instead of browsing through menus |
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| 12:23.58 | Lopeppeppy | Great, ICQ is down... means I don't have to do work, wheeee! |
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| 12:51.41 | mikma | http://www.mmowned.com/forums/wow-guides/246761-awesome-guide-how-not-die-like-idiot.html |
| 12:54.43 | Lopeppeppy | Requires login = FAIL |
| 12:54.55 | mikma | aww poop :( |
| 13:03.10 | krka | you're calling her poop? that's a slightly unfriendly nickname |
| 13:03.27 | krka | sure the name has enough p's but only one o |
| 13:03.54 | mikma | lopeppoop? |
| 13:04.01 | Lopeppeppy | ~whalenuke mikma |
| 13:04.02 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around mikma with his mind powers. |
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| 13:12.28 | mikma | http://www.wowpopular.com/talents |
| 13:13.34 | Lopeppeppy | Love it, holydins are only 1 star. |
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| 13:14.53 | Wobin | zomg ele shammy the most popular? |
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| 13:22.44 | dardack | ele shammans i get cause you can put out mad deeps and have no skill |
| 13:23.27 | dardack | damn dk blood doesn't even make that list |
| 13:23.50 | Lopeppeppy | You can narrow out the list using the checkboxes in the left column, dardack, to see the most popular DK blood, for example. |
| 13:23.57 | dardack | i see |
| 13:24.00 | dardack | but still |
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| 13:24.24 | dardack | hmm the checkbox isn't working for me |
| 13:24.29 | dardack | nv |
| 13:24.31 | dardack | m |
| 13:24.50 | dardack | wow 14th popular to get to first blood |
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| 13:48.38 | Duman | hmm |
| 14:00.06 | Adys | http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2009-07-15-n65.html |
| 14:00.11 | Adys | google stole my shitty design |
| 14:00.52 | Lopeppeppy | Sue the bastard |
| 14:02.44 | foxlit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16474334353&sid=1 << I smell taint |
| 14:02.55 | Wobin | It could be your nose is too close to butt? |
| 14:03.10 | Fisker | herro Wobin |
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| 14:08.43 | Kraps | heh http://xkcd.com/610/ |
| 14:10.02 | Lopeppeppy | Baaaaaa. |
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| 14:13.33 | DWSR | om nom nom |
| 14:13.36 | DWSR | How's it going everyone? |
| 14:13.42 | Lopeppeppy | Nom nom nommy |
| 14:13.53 | DWSR | was it tasty? |
| 14:14.02 | Fisker | http://i26.tinypic.com/20svtyc.jpg <-contemplating if i should pay 20 pounds extra for the lesser version |
| 14:14.17 | Lopeppeppy | Was tasty. Brazil nuts are a nice snack. |
| 14:14.35 | DWSR | what's the difference between N and E? |
| 14:14.38 | Fisker | puts on a steel chastity belt |
| 14:14.46 | Fisker | DWSR E is without IE and N is without IE + WMP |
| 14:15.08 | DWSR | I should think I'll be getting N when I decide to upgrade. |
| 14:15.17 | DWSR | that only in Europe? |
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| 14:15.23 | Fisker | yes |
| 14:15.28 | DWSR | figured. Fucking Americans. |
| 14:15.30 | Lopeppeppy | You can download both programs, why pay extra? |
| 14:15.40 | Fisker | you don't pay extra |
| 14:15.45 | DWSR | <3 Lopeppeppy's idea. |
| 14:15.47 | Fisker | They're just not included |
| 14:15.51 | Fisker | the price is the same |
| 14:16.03 | DWSR | Fisker: Peppy means why buy it in the first place. |
| 14:16.09 | Lopeppeppy | ... that's stupid talk. |
| 14:16.13 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone needs more coasters. |
| 14:16.22 | Fisker | If EU wasn't the cancer killing software we'd probably have Windows 7, Windows 7 E and Windows 7 N and maybe Windows 7 EN :P |
| 14:16.43 | DWSR | the EU was right to get MS to not include IE and WMP. |
| 14:16.48 | Fisker | no |
| 14:16.52 | Fisker | The EU was wrong |
| 14:16.55 | DWSR | I don't use either pieces of software and I have to slipstream my own disk if I want them off of there. |
| 14:16.56 | Wobin | .... the naming convention is appalling =P |
| 14:17.01 | DWSR | Wobin has a point. |
| 14:17.22 | dardack | EU wasn't wrong |
| 14:17.22 | DWSR | yeah, I don't get how they came up with E and N, but whatever. |
| 14:17.24 | dardack | ie sux |
| 14:17.28 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 14:17.32 | dardack | it f's up windows so much |
| 14:17.33 | DWSR | IE8 is decent. |
| 14:17.42 | Wobin | they have identifying letters to differentiate what the edition -doesn't- have? |
| 14:17.43 | DWSR | But everything before 7 blows. |
| 14:17.44 | dardack | at least ie6 is finally dieing |
| 14:17.47 | Fisker | DWSR so what? You need to slipstream your own disk if you want another browser there |
| 14:17.57 | DWSR | work |
| 14:17.59 | dardack | anyways i like my linux |
| 14:18.02 | Fisker | So your point is entirely moot |
| 14:18.04 | dardack | i'll stick with that for now |
| 14:18.46 | dardack | but i hear even those it comes without IE it still has some components tied in or something |
| 14:18.59 | Fisker | duh |
| 14:19.19 | foxlit | Why would anyone care whether IE or WMP are bundled with the OS? |
| 14:19.27 | Fisker | exactly |
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| 14:19.40 | Wobin | Cause these things matter to operating systems |
| 14:19.48 | Wobin | IMPORTANT |
| 14:20.08 | Kraps | how do i know this is the right driver? awful website http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsCheck.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=23&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false |
| 14:20.22 | Fisker | How do i know it's the right driver Kraps ? |
| 14:20.33 | foxlit | Kraps: windows update figures it out for you. |
| 14:20.38 | Fisker | Also |
| 14:20.57 | Fisker | Realtek's download servers are appalling |
| 14:21.42 | DWSR | Fisker: I don't need to slipstream to have another browser on my install. |
| 14:22.07 | Fisker | yes you do |
| 14:22.09 | DWSR | I just need to slipstream if I want to have another browser on the install media, which is different. I don't want IE installed period. |
| 14:22.23 | Fisker | Then use another operating system |
| 14:22.24 | Fisker | period. |
| 14:22.30 | DWSR | Why? I can just remove IE. |
| 14:22.39 | DWSR | I can remove the parts I don't like. |
| 14:22.48 | Fisker | Then your problem is non-existant |
| 14:22.49 | Fisker | next |
| 14:23.08 | DWSR | My problem is the fact that it actually requires effort. |
| 14:23.14 | Kraps | use firefox |
| 14:23.17 | DWSR | And that is existant. |
| 14:23.19 | foxlit | Not a valid problem. |
| 14:23.20 | DWSR | I use chrome, kthx. |
| 14:23.26 | Kraps | kk |
| 14:23.27 | Fisker | DWSR then use another operating system |
| 14:23.28 | DWSR | chrome > Firefox. |
| 14:23.37 | Kraps | DWSR: depends |
| 14:23.41 | DWSR | Not really. |
| 14:23.44 | foxlit | "Your honour, how dare they sell me a product that isn't exactly as I want it!" |
| 14:23.52 | Cairenn|afk | potato potato |
| 14:23.57 | Lopeppeppy | Rhubarb |
| 14:24.12 | DWSR | foxlit: More like "Your honour, how dare they sell me a product that is bundled with other products that I don't want." |
| 14:24.18 | DWSR | but sure. |
| 14:24.24 | DWSR | I want Windows, I don't want IE. |
| 14:24.25 | Fisker | Yes DWSR |
| 14:24.27 | Fisker | the exact same thing |
| 14:24.32 | DWSR | No it's not. |
| 14:24.33 | foxlit | nee-nah. Their right to draw the line. |
| 14:24.42 | DWSR | IE is not a required part of the operating system. |
| 14:24.51 | Fisker | Yes it is |
| 14:24.52 | malreth | DWSR: yes it is... for Windows Update |
| 14:24.57 | foxlit | You're not being sold an operating system. |
| 14:24.57 | DWSR | malreth, no it's not. |
| 14:25.17 | DWSR | I can get all my updates just fine without IE being installed, thanks. |
| 14:25.30 | Wobin | You're being sold an Operating EXPERIENCE |
| 14:25.30 | Lopeppeppy | Whenever I do a windows update, it tells me I have to close FF and use IE. So if you're using their site, it might be required. |
| 14:25.30 | Fisker | Without IE showing up on your start menu that is |
| 14:25.40 | malreth | that sounds like a bug... Microsoft will get right on fixing that, DWSR |
| 14:25.49 | Fisker | If IE were completely removed from the OS you wouldn't be able to use several programs, first-party as well as third-party |
| 14:25.54 | Fisker | And that's the same thing happening here |
| 14:26.02 | Fisker | They're removing the main executable for IE |
| 14:26.06 | Fisker | everything else remains |
| 14:26.09 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Just get your browser to spoof User-Agents. |
| 14:26.20 | Kraps | ^ |
| 14:26.24 | DWSR | seemed to work for me. |
| 14:26.32 | Lopeppeppy | Uh-huh. |
| 14:26.57 | Lopeppeppy | If you have to spoof around it, it's still a requirement, you're just hacking past it. That does NOT render it less of a requirement, just makes you a slightly clever monkey. |
| 14:27.25 | DWSR | It makes it less of a requirement for me personally. |
| 14:27.37 | DWSR | And, to be honest, if that's all it takes, it shouldn't be a requirement, but that's a seperate discussion. |
| 14:28.06 | foxlit | Can I vehemently object to the windows calculator being included as part of windows? |
| 14:28.10 | DWSR | sure. |
| 14:28.19 | Fisker | oh yeah foxlit |
| 14:28.21 | Fisker | Windows 7 C |
| 14:28.23 | Kraps | i use an agent switcher to use zinio |
| 14:28.25 | Fisker | Without Calculator |
| 14:28.38 | DWSR | But the Windows Calculator doesn't have security flaws in it that render the system vulnerable, like IE does. |
| 14:29.14 | Fisker | Says who DWSR ? |
| 14:29.26 | Fisker | Also we've been through this |
| 14:29.29 | DWSR | Fisker, says the fact that it's not a net enabled application? |
| 14:29.33 | Fisker | Unless you're breaking the system, IE remains |
| 14:29.36 | DWSR | well I'm late to the party, so forgive me. |
| 14:29.49 | Kraps | hacks into Fisker's pc using Calculator |
| 14:29.51 | Fisker | oh i didn't know that buffer overflows only existed through net enabled applications |
| 14:30.04 | Fisker | Maybe you should return your hackers degree to the carnival vending machine? |
| 14:30.12 | nicoli_s | well now you know |
| 14:30.22 | DWSR | Fisker: How are you supposed to access the memory of calculator without having gone THROUGH something? |
| 14:30.23 | Stanzilla | it's just a shitty idea as long it's the same os minus 2 .exe files |
| 14:30.35 | Stanzilla | or 3? |
| 14:30.37 | Stanzilla | dunno |
| 14:30.56 | DWSR | Stanzilla: Moot. |
| 14:31.02 | Fisker | naw |
| 14:31.19 | Stanzilla | and tell me why apple is allowed to ship safari with osx? :P |
| 14:31.20 | Fisker | Here's the deal: Removing the components that enable Internet Explorer to work breaks the OS |
| 14:31.41 | Fisker | And what Microsoft is doing is just removing Internet Explorer itself |
| 14:31.51 | Fisker | it's rendering engine, and hence it's security vulnerabilities remain |
| 14:31.54 | DWSR | Stanzilla: They shouldn't be allowed to. Not enough Newfags use OSX to make it worthwhile for the EU government to make Apple change it. |
| 14:32.34 | foxlit | "They shouldn't be allowed to." << I don't want you anywhere near the products I actually end up purchasing. |
| 14:32.38 | Slafsinator | I don't see how shipping a browser with the OS so that one can actually use it out of the box is wrong in any way, for any vendor. |
| 14:32.43 | Fisker | i agree foxlit |
| 14:32.55 | Fisker | indeed Slafsinator |
| 14:33.31 | DWSR | foxlit: Look at it like this: If the EU decided that Microsoft should do it, why shouldn't Apple? |
| 14:33.36 | DWSR | Double standard much? |
| 14:33.55 | Fisker | Technically Microsoft decided to remove IE |
| 14:33.56 | Slafsinator | EU's decision is dumb? :) |
| 14:33.56 | Fisker | not EU |
| 14:34.06 | Fisker | But it was certainly their nosing around that caused it |
| 14:34.31 | DWSR | Fisker: No, EU charged Microsoft with abusing their market share. |
| 14:34.37 | DWSR | And thusly, MS removed it. |
| 14:34.40 | foxlit | Two things: (1) On what grounds did EU make that decision (and do they apply to Apple?) (2) Even in relation to microsoft, I don't think that was the right solution. |
| 14:34.52 | Lopeppeppy | feeds the trolls! |
| 14:34.57 | Fisker | fail DWSR |
| 14:34.58 | DWSR | noms |
| 14:35.00 | Fisker | that's exactly what i said |
| 14:37.18 | DWSR | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10262630-56.html <-- CNET seems to say the same thing, unless they're lying? |
| 14:37.50 | Fisker | say what? |
| 14:38.03 | DWSR | ah, nevermind. |
| 14:38.07 | DWSR | I'm getting my wires cross. |
| 14:38.10 | DWSR | crossed* |
| 14:39.56 | DWSR | I agree that it's a bit pointless for them to just remove the executables. |
| 14:40.05 | DWSR | But the idea is pretty sound. |
| 14:40.13 | Lopeppeppy | Security theater. |
| 14:42.56 | Fisker | i don't see how destroying thousands of applications for europeans is a sound idea |
| 14:43.20 | Ackis | Fisker: IMO destroy thousands of europenas |
| 14:43.22 | DWSR | Because they could just make it so that there is no need to have the rendering engine in there. |
| 14:43.33 | Fisker | indeed Ackis |
| 14:43.37 | DWSR | the idea behind removing it is sound. |
| 14:43.40 | DWSR | Implementation is fail. |
| 14:43.58 | Fisker | As i said, destroying thousands of applications is not a sound idea |
| 14:44.41 | DWSR | If done properly, it wouldn't destroy thousands of applications. |
| 14:44.47 | Fisker | Yes it would |
| 14:45.14 | DWSR | How? |
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| 14:45.29 | Slafsinator | What would you gain though? |
| 14:45.40 | Fisker | Well if i have an application dependant on an internet connection, severing said internet connection would ruin the application |
| 14:45.42 | Fisker | That's how |
| 14:46.07 | Fisker | Doesn't matter if you use a knife, axe, scissor or whatever to sever the connection, your application still doesn't work |
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| 15:08.14 | foxlit | printf("%d %d", a, a); << "0 1247670354" |
| 15:09.36 | foxlit | Ah, that's not it. |
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| 15:10.53 | TopTop18 | Meh dc |
| 15:14.31 | Aelobin | what's "GLG" and "SWD card"? :P |
| 15:16.14 | TopTop18 | No idea xD |
| 15:16.27 | Lopeppeppy | Give us some context? |
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| 15:16.49 | Aelobin | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=115589 |
| 15:17.01 | Aelobin | guessing GLG is a rogue move, and SWD some sort of trinket |
| 15:19.02 | Aelobin | gnomish lightning generator |
| 15:19.06 | Aelobin | i shoulda known, i have one >_< |
| 15:21.35 | TopTop18 | lol |
| 15:23.15 | Aelobin | hmm still have no idea what SWD is, nor the "Mega Man Hand Cannon" :P |
| 15:28.23 | TopTop18 | SWD card somekind of darkmoon card? |
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| 15:31.00 | Aelobin | i searched for darmoon faire cards and i can't find one |
| 15:31.54 | Lopeppeppy | SWD might be the abbreviation for the name of the buff you get from the card? |
| 15:31.58 | Lopeppeppy | Or is it some loot card item? |
| 15:32.11 | Stanzilla | D = "death"? :P |
| 15:32.13 | Aelobin | apparently there's a Shadow Word: Death card |
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| 15:32.25 | Lopeppeppy | There ya go |
| 15:32.46 | TopTop18 | I've decided to make my code only in lua, so without xml, but is it possible to run a piece of code on loading of the lua file? Or must I first create a frame register the loading from the frame and let that trigger the code? Anyone? :D |
| 15:33.11 | Cruciformer | Just put teh code in teh Lua file and it rusnw hen it loads |
| 15:33.51 | TopTop18 | Okay |
| 15:34.01 | TopTop18 | No special stuff I need to know? oO |
| 15:34.08 | Cruciformer | doesn't need anything special. The lua files are "run" in teh order specified in teh toc. Any code that isnt a function, that has "global scope" Ifor want of a better term, will be run. |
| 15:34.41 | Cruciformer | there are a bunch of API's that dont return valid answers until after you're logged in etc but other than that, nothing special you need to worry about. |
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| 15:35.47 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 15:35.52 | Shirik | no |
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| 15:35.56 | TopTop18 | Thanks! |
| 15:36.14 | Fisker | ok |
| 15:36.21 | Fisker | then i hate you |
| 15:36.43 | malreth | Fisker: you needed a reason to hate Shirik? |
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| 15:36.58 | Fisker | i reset once every couple of hours |
| 15:37.12 | Cruciformer | man the wow forums is doing searches in glacial time |
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| 15:37.36 | malreth | what's a "glacial"? |
| 15:37.44 | Cruciformer | very friggin slowly |
| 15:38.10 | Cruciformer | i.e about as fast as a glacier moves. |
| 15:38.30 | malreth | i don't understand... glacier? |
| 15:39.03 | Cruciformer | oh dear |
| 15:39.06 | Cruciformer | I smell a troll :) |
| 15:39.22 | malreth | wait a minute... troll? |
| 15:39.27 | malreth | you're moving too fast for me |
| 15:39.39 | Cruciformer | Im moving at glacial speeds :) |
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| 15:40.13 | Colonel | hey |
| 15:40.21 | Colonel | can anyone help me `? |
| 15:40.36 | Cruciformer | 17 people can. only 0.7 of them will. |
| 15:40.39 | Shirik | ~asktoask |
| 15:40.40 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 15:40.44 | Shirik | I win |
| 15:40.55 | Colonel | ^^ |
| 15:40.59 | Elkano | well, I wasn't sure she's in here |
| 15:41.12 | Shirik | really? that's used elsewhere? |
| 15:42.23 | Colonel | i got some stupid problems with the UI of Xion i downloaded it but how to get it like the Ui on that picture http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw25760.jpg |
| 15:42.25 | Lopeppeppy | purl visits many places, Shirik |
| 15:42.32 | Shirik | well yes |
| 15:42.43 | Shirik | but I didn't anticipate ~asktoask leaving this channel |
| 15:43.51 | Lopeppeppy | Colonel, UI compilations are a PITA to support. They work differently on different computers based on resolution, you have to load the profiles EXACTLY as the author tells you to do. It's impossible for us to support you without specific questions, and even then, it's still not likely that we can help you much. |
| 15:44.08 | Colonel | and yes i changed WTF ACC SERVER CHARNAME and so on and copied it into right folder |
| 15:45.03 | Colonel | hm |
| 15:45.05 | Lopeppeppy | Did you load all of the profiles as the directions (may or may not have) indicated? |
| 15:45.15 | Cruciformer | I bet you have to edit one of the savedvariables lua files and put your character and realm name in there, especially if they use AceDB to store their data. |
| 15:45.45 | Colonel | but i got this problem with every single addon |
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| 15:46.28 | Lopeppeppy | All addons require setup, Colonel. It's not magic, sadly |
| 15:46.28 | Cruciformer | many addons store the realm and character name in the saved variables files and you need to edit those. |
| 15:47.16 | malreth | Colonel: good looking custom UIs require a lot of manual labor. it'll probably take you days |
| 15:47.48 | malreth | it's taken me over half a year to perfect my UI... i haven't played since I started |
| 15:48.12 | Colonel | i got a savedvariable.lua in this CHARNAME folder is that the right one ? |
| 15:48.37 | Lopeppeppy | it's ONE of the right ones, I would guess. |
| 15:48.57 | Colonel | and what to type in there ? |
| 15:49.04 | Colonel | its completely empty |
| 15:49.24 | Cruciformer | then thats not the one you want |
| 15:49.36 | Lopeppeppy | Colonel, I have no idea, sorry. I'm not at your computer to see how this is set up... UI compilations are impossible to troubleshoot or support, I hate them. |
| 15:49.44 | Slafsinator | I'd wager that if you can't replicate a downloaded UI then you'll have to use something else. |
| 15:51.03 | malreth | Colonel: where'd you download the Xion pack? the version I found only has an AddOns folder and no saved variables files |
| 15:51.20 | Colonel | uhm i´ll give u a link |
| 15:51.23 | Colonel | mom pls |
| 15:51.41 | Colonel | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13217-XionUI1920x1200CaithAdaptation.html |
| 15:51.56 | malreth | ah... what screen resolution are you running your game at? |
| 15:52.14 | Colonel | 1900x1080 full hd |
| 15:52.21 | Lopeppeppy | And did you follow ALL of the directions at the bottom? |
| 15:52.46 | Colonel | yes but it didnt load any of this features |
| 15:53.02 | Colonel | do i have to delte something? cache or something else ? |
| 15:53.11 | malreth | do you see the part on that page where it says it's designed for 1920x1200? do you see how running at 1900x1080 would pose a problem? |
| 15:53.11 | Lopeppeppy | Last updated in April, that compilation will have addons which are out of date, which is likely 2/3 of your issue. |
| 15:54.35 | Colonel | yes a problem but it didnt load it for example in the correct styles or somthing pitbull shows me completely other styles |
| 15:56.05 | Cruciformer | I am 99% sure that pitbull uses AceDb so you will need to look for something like WTF\ACCOUNT\SaveVariables\Pitbull4.lua and change any realm and character names in there. |
| 15:56.20 | Lopeppeppy | I doubt it has PB4, I think it's too old for that. |
| 15:56.22 | Colonel | lemme try |
| 15:56.31 | Cruciformer | If the pack you are downloading doesnt tll you its a poorly constructed pack (arent they all?) |
| 15:56.53 | Slafsinator | It's probably not even tested :) |
| 15:58.55 | Cruciformer | Colonel: keep it public so everyone can see your progress. |
| 15:59.04 | Colonel | sorry |
| 15:59.07 | Colonel | k |
| 15:59.14 | malreth | heh... the guy left all of his character names and servers in the PitBull SVs |
| 15:59.20 | Lopeppeppy | Hilarious. |
| 15:59.31 | Colonel | ok there are several names and servers |
| 15:59.31 | Colonel | ["Sooth - Gorgonnash"] = "Caith UI", |
| 15:59.32 | Colonel | ["Zuz - Vek'lor"] = "Caith UI", |
| 15:59.32 | Colonel | ["Caithlyn - Gorgonnash"] = "Caith UI", |
| 15:59.35 | Colonel | for example |
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| 15:59.54 | Colonel | do i have to change one or put mine into it |
| 15:59.59 | Cruciformer | Lunessa: STATION |
| 16:00.18 | foxlit | both ways work |
| 16:00.21 | Cruciformer | I figured I'd beat u to it :) |
| 16:00.31 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:00.47 | foxlit | You should also be able to switch to the right profile in-game. |
| 16:00.49 | Lunessa | My work here is near complete. |
| 16:00.51 | foxlit | Presumably |
| 16:01.13 | malreth | yeah... in the game, you can type /pitbull and then load the "Caith UI" profile for your character |
| 16:02.46 | Cruciformer | speaking of pitbull ... I am currently using xperl. xperl does stuff other than just raid frames. Anyone know how much I'll miss out on if I was to switch? |
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| 16:03.21 | Lopeppeppy | Depends what features of xperl you're relying on? |
| 16:03.24 | Colonel | but it didnt show me caith UI profile |
| 16:03.49 | Cruciformer | Lopeppeppy: Its sometimes hard to tell :) Its so integrated. |
| 16:03.56 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Lunessa. |
| 16:04.05 | Lopeppeppy | Then all you can do it try it and see, Cruciformer. |
| 16:04.21 | Lunessa | huggles Lopeppeppy, then uploads more boxes and shipping labels. |
| 16:04.26 | Cruciformer | yeah I was hoping someone else had made the transitiona nd could advise. I'll experiment. |
| 16:05.34 | malreth | Colonel: if you've renamed the ACCOUNTNAME folder correctly and you've quit and relaunched the game, the pitbull profile for "Caith UI" should appear |
| 16:05.46 | Lunessa | Cruciformer: Pitbull 4 can do pretty much everything XPerl can, but doesn't have a single "look" like Xperl. Pitbull is far, far, far more customizable. |
| 16:06.39 | Lunessa | And, in my opinion, Xperl is butt-ugly |
| 16:07.19 | Cruciformer | I'll give you that, its not pretty. But it is functional. Actually it was pitbull's extreme customisation that scared me away from it originally :) |
| 16:07.46 | Lopeppeppy | PB4 is said to have easier menus to navigate for customizing. |
| 16:08.14 | Cruciformer | Lopeppeppy: No what scared me was how much time I could spend tweaking ... Im a consumate "fiddler". |
| 16:08.23 | malreth | me too |
| 16:08.35 | Wobin | bow chika waka chika |
| 16:08.36 | malreth | at this rate, i'll never be able to play |
| 16:08.39 | Arrowmaster | so i woke up to a ups driver knocking on my door, and 5 boxes from newegg on my porch, yay |
| 16:08.47 | Cruciformer | in my case less is more (with xperl - I get what I get and thats pretty much it) |
| 16:08.57 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster: thats a great way to start a day IMHO :) |
| 16:09.25 | malreth | Arrowmaster: that... and a hummer. but computer parts are cool, too |
| 16:09.27 | Arrowmaster | now to figure out where to put these damn packing peanuts |
| 16:09.36 | Cruciformer | speedy newegg and amazon deliveries are two of the things I miss most about teh USA. |
| 16:09.46 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: salt them and resell them |
| 16:09.50 | nevcairiel | amazon is pretty speedy here too |
| 16:09.53 | nevcairiel | we dont have newegg :P |
| 16:10.01 | Cruciformer | nevcairiel: where is "here"? |
| 16:10.06 | nevcairiel | germany |
| 16:10.48 | Lunessa | malreth: Sadly, the hummer you woke up to was the cat purring while laying on your crotch. |
| 16:11.10 | Cruciformer | when I moved to SA amazon.de wouldnt deliver here :( Some of the kusic I wanted was only avail through them too. |
| 16:11.11 | malreth | if you starve and ignore your cat, they'll love you more |
| 16:12.01 | Cruciformer | thats not love thats manipulation. |
| 16:12.23 | ccox | tomato, tomatoe - whatever |
| 16:12.24 | Wobin | That's cool |
| 16:12.28 | Cruciformer | they'll pretend to lvoe u more till u feed and pet them then go right back to being aloof. |
| 16:12.37 | Lopeppeppy | all love is manipulation of lust, despair and reward. |
| 16:12.38 | Wobin | We actually have a national tsunami information hotline |
| 16:12.41 | Wobin | 1300 TSUNAMI |
| 16:13.03 | Cruciformer | 1-300? that the local version of 1-800? |
| 16:13.51 | Wobin | I think it's just a local call cost |
| 16:13.53 | Wobin | not a freecall |
| 16:14.30 | Wobin | so no interstate call costs |
| 16:14.36 | Lunessa | manipulates Lopeppeppy's lust and despiar to reward himself. :P |
| 16:15.21 | Lopeppeppy | nom nom nom |
| 16:21.48 | Shirik | ... |
| 16:22.15 | Lopeppeppy | I adore chocolate chip cookies, and so does Lunessa! That's what he meant... right? |
| 16:22.50 | Lunessa | Lust for chocolate chip cookies, despair over not having them, rewarded by buying some. |
| 16:22.55 | malreth | i think he means to say that you have a lot of cookies in your jar |
| 16:23.05 | Wobin | bow chika bow wow |
| 16:23.22 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr means I love you in Dinosaur. |
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| 16:23.41 | Adys | http://www.break.com/index/cat-snatches-bat-out-of-midair.html |
| 16:23.46 | Lunessa | RAWR is like STATION - it means many things. |
| 16:23.48 | Aelobin | hmm what's melee range equivalent to in yards? |
| 16:23.56 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, doesn't it just? |
| 16:24.36 | Wobin | Adys: I love the paw movements |
| 16:24.41 | Wobin | it's like "OM NOMNOMNOM" |
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| 16:25.36 | mikma | hoho, eu.wowarmory.com -> Error during XSLT transformation: XSLT Stylesheet (possibly) contains a recursion. |
| 16:25.36 | Lunessa | Aelobin: For my Storm Strikes, it's like 5 yards. |
| 16:25.42 | malreth | my cat stuns large flies in mid-flight |
| 16:25.43 | Wobin | http://www.break.com/index/wolf-pup-learns-the-call-of-the-wild.html |
| 16:25.44 | Aelobin | hmm ok |
| 16:25.44 | Wobin | d'awww |
| 16:26.12 | Aelobin | so if falling speed is less tahn 10yards per 1.5 seconds, then that would allow me to hit them twice througout a fall? xD |
| 16:26.18 | Lopeppeppy | Cats are hunters, it's what they do. |
| 16:27.02 | Cruciformer | the pb4 entry on curse says "its not done". Is it "done enough" to bother experimenting with as a replacement for xperl? |
| 16:27.20 | Lunessa | Yes. I use it daily. |
| 16:27.30 | Cruciformer | good enough for me |
| 16:27.34 | Lunessa | Hell, I'm like 8-10 revisions behind and it still rocks. |
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| 16:39.07 | Cruciformer | yowzers ... pb is ... intimidating :) |
| 16:39.17 | Lopeppeppy | Complex and flexible! |
| 16:39.33 | Cruciformer | oh I can see the power in it its just ... intimidating :) |
| 16:39.37 | malreth | like a fine hooker |
| 16:39.47 | Lopeppeppy | Dive right in, enjoy the service. Like a fine hooker. |
| 16:39.48 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 16:40.07 | malreth | Lord, I apologize... |
| 16:40.22 | Lopeppeppy | You're corrupting the Peppy, you're in trouble with the Lord, ya know. |
| 16:40.50 | Lunessa | malreth: You're too cultured to be Larry the Cable Guy |
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| 16:42.52 | Lunessa | Well, ok.... You've watched too much Animae - not sure that qualifies you as /cultured/ or not. |
| 16:43.40 | alestane | Compared to some, it might. |
| 16:43.59 | malreth | when being raeped by tentacles, you are advised to keep your mouth shut... for *obvious* reasons. |
| 16:44.12 | Lopeppeppy | tapes malreth's mouth shut |
| 16:44.43 | malreth | also, if you are male... anything is an orifice. *ANYTHING* |
| 16:44.52 | malreth | o_o |
| 16:47.17 | Lunessa | malreth: I know where you live. Don't make me drive up there. |
| 16:47.51 | Lopeppeppy | He'd do it too! |
| 16:48.22 | Cruciformer | Question: can one make the assumnption that mod "A" will have an event fully processed before mod "B" gets a crack at it? |
| 16:48.33 | nevcairiel | Its single threaded |
| 16:48.51 | alestane | malreth: http://exploitationnow.com/comic.php?date=2000-08-04 |
| 16:48.52 | Cruciformer | i.e do the frames that deal with registered events get processed sequentially or in parallel |
| 16:49.00 | nevcairiel | Its single threaded |
| 16:49.01 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 16:49.10 | Cruciformer | ya I saw that after I typed nevcairiel :) |
| 16:49.11 | alestane | They get processed sequentially, but I'm not sure you can control the order. |
| 16:49.46 | nevcairiel | order is somewhat random from your POV |
| 16:49.51 | Cruciformer | alestane: then that URL I posted you may be incorrect. |
| 16:49.55 | DWSR | Question: Can I refer a friend to an acconut that's linked to the same battle.net account? |
| 16:50.06 | DWSR | s/acconut/account/ |
| 16:50.24 | Cruciformer | nevcairiel: thats fine. There are some stateful API's and I was totally convinced that my mod was interfering with framexml. |
| 16:50.38 | DWSR | I just bought an nvidia gpu and I'm about to refer-a-friend because it came with a copy of vanilla WoW. |
| 16:50.47 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 16:51.25 | Cruciformer | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18326619465&sid=1 for the details. But if each mod gets to deal with the events before the next one does, then thats not the problem. |
| 16:53.52 | alestane | I think handlers for a particular event are generally called in the order they were registered, but this is not guaranteed. |
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| 17:02.00 | Lunessa | I love the girls and the money and the shame of life. |
| 17:02.16 | alestane | Bless you. |
| 17:04.17 | Lopeppeppy | With cheese |
| 17:04.53 | DWSR | Question: Can I refer a friend to an account that's linked to the same battle.net account? |
| 17:05.05 | Colonel | how can i change the pitbull style on myself? |
| 17:05.21 | Lopeppeppy | Change player? |
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| 17:06.12 | Lunessa | DWSR: I don't know, but I don't think so. I didn't link my RAF account. |
| 17:06.58 | DWSR | I'm thinking I might just want to keep the account, but I don't know. Maybe not. |
| 17:07.53 | DWSR | I got Vanilla WoW and CoD5 with my 9800GTX from NewEgg for $168 CAd. |
| 17:08.10 | DWSR | s/CAd/CAD/ |
| 17:10.49 | Lunessa | Nice card. |
| 17:13.17 | DWSR | my mistake, GTX+. |
| 17:13.22 | DWSR | Whatever the + means. |
| 17:13.54 | DWSR | I have a 7800GTX in right now, so hopefully this is like a super mega ultra upgrade or something. |
| 17:14.34 | foxlit | I have the 9800gtx |
| 17:14.39 | foxlit | I'm not overly impressed. |
| 17:14.54 | foxlit | It still doesn't manage to pull 9001 fps in Dalaran. |
| 17:15.07 | Lunessa | I'm using an 8600GTX |
| 17:15.10 | foxlit | also has the +. |
| 17:15.17 | DWSR | I think the + is OC. |
| 17:15.26 | foxlit | Well, OC without OC. |
| 17:15.30 | Lunessa | I'm thinking that any further improvement to the GPU is wasted in this current box. |
| 17:16.18 | DWSR | I'm getting to that point as well. |
| 17:16.19 | Cruciformer | I cant upgrade my GPU's till I can find one that only takes up a single slot when I replace its fan with a water cooler, so I am stuck withmy 8800GTX's atm :/ |
| 17:16.45 | DWSR | The box says I need a 475W power supply, but it's based on using a much faster GPU than I'm using. |
| 17:16.51 | DWSR | I'm thinking I'll be alright. |
| 17:17.11 | Cruciformer | those massive fans are all good and well but until motherboard manufacturers start assuming that each PCIe slot is going to have a doublewide card in it and space their slots differently, Im screwed. |
| 17:17.14 | DWSR | I have a 450W PSU in there right now anyway. |
| 17:17.31 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: http://xkcd.com/610/ |
| 17:17.43 | nevcairiel | they usually hide PCIe x1 slots below those now |
| 17:18.07 | nevcairiel | there are some boards that space the board ebtter, though |
| 17:18.25 | Lunessa | I mean, I could slap another 2 gigs of RAM and a second GPU (SLI MoBo) but... why? |
| 17:18.32 | Cruciformer | nevcairiel: I made the mistake of being at the bleeding edge and got one of the first X58 mobos |
| 17:18.45 | durcyn | i had a 3x-SLI asus board that covered every non-x8 slot when they were populated :( |
| 17:19.07 | DWSR | Lunessa: lulz |
| 17:20.43 | Lunessa | The machine I have is 4+ years old. It's an AMD Dual-Core 3GHz chip - it's "fast enough" and I'm unlike to get real performance boosts without replacing the whole thing so ... I don't bother. |
| 17:22.08 | foxlit | Hm, interesting. |
| 17:22.16 | Lunessa | And I have got to learn to proof-read before hitting enter. |
| 17:22.24 | foxlit | I now get ads in topsites view, but they vanish when actually visiting the website. |
| 17:22.32 | foxlit | I wonder if that'd be <noscript> at work |
| 17:23.18 | DWSR | HOLY SH** |
| 17:23.28 | DWSR | Double-wide no kidding. |
| 17:23.32 | foxlit | ot? |
| 17:23.39 | DWSR | Didn't know they made them that fat. |
| 17:23.47 | DWSR | talking about my 9800 |
| 17:24.22 | DWSR | I thought they shipped me 2 cards when I took out the package. |
| 17:24.48 | foxlit | It's also *long |
| 17:25.32 | Thunder_Child | i know the 275's are ~10.5 in so i assume they are simila |
| 17:25.32 | Thunder_Child | r |
| 17:25.32 | foxlit | And the power cable attachment points are positioned badly. |
| 17:25.41 | Lunessa | Yes, they SUCK - you need an extender in many cases. |
| 17:26.03 | Lopeppeppy | Much snark - http://www.snorgtees.com/abstinence9999effective-p-793.html |
| 17:26.31 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa -- sheeeeeple! |
| 17:26.46 | Lunessa | *chuckle* ' |
| 17:27.05 | DWSR | yeah, no kidding. |
| 17:27.23 | DWSR | It's almost too wide for my case. |
| 17:28.01 | Thunder_Child | i have a full tower as it is, but i can not help it and am buying another one. MOAR SPACE! |
| 17:28.37 | Lunessa | Haha... I have a mid-size tower and it's sufficient. |
| 17:29.00 | Lopeppeppy | I have a kick ass huge tower. |
| 17:29.50 | Lunessa | When I build the next box, I'm considering going to a full tower and a water cooling system. |
| 17:30.19 | malreth | i used the Antec Three Hundred case for my wife's computer. i was happy with that |
| 17:30.41 | Cruciformer | Im using some big-ass Kollance tower. Its awesome. |
| 17:30.56 | Lopeppeppy | I have... a big evil tower. TKFT bought it so his Frankenstein huge hands could work in it. |
| 17:32.37 | Shirik | anyone here familiar with mssql? |
| 17:32.49 | Shirik | Is sp_databases the correct way to list all databases? |
| 17:33.19 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 17:33.32 | Shirik | hm :/ |
| 17:33.36 | Shirik | it's giving me nothing |
| 17:33.44 | Lopeppeppy | databasi! |
| 17:34.05 | DWSR | lul |
| 17:34.18 | DWSR | Lunessa: I'm using a 15 year old Dell case that doesn't have mount-points for the board. |
| 17:34.28 | DWSR | Lunessa: The mobo hangs.....on hooks. |
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| 17:35.05 | Lunessa | DWSR: Funky. |
| 17:35.10 | DWSR | Lunessa: It's not. |
| 17:35.19 | DWSR | I've warped the shit out of my mobo. |
| 17:35.26 | DWSR | It has a parabolic curve to it. |
| 17:35.55 | DWSR | and holy shit, my 9800GTX+ lives. |
| 17:36.28 | DWSR | dumb question, but do people really need kilowatt PSUs? |
| 17:36.37 | Lunessa | Yes |
| 17:37.52 | foxlit | Surely not |
| 17:38.02 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 17:38.05 | ScytheBlade1 | tri/quad SLI |
| 17:38.09 | foxlit | (2000 kcal) / (24 hours) = 0.0968518519 kilowatts |
| 17:38.20 | nevcairiel | another question, do people really need quad sli? |
| 17:38.33 | ScytheBlade1 | a good question, my answer is no ;) |
| 17:38.35 | DWSR | apparent.y |
| 17:38.45 | DWSR | s/\./l/ |
| 17:38.53 | DWSR | oh, fuck off purl, DO IT. |
| 17:38.59 | DWSR | OH FFS. |
| 17:39.08 | DWSR | I cranked up the resolution too high and now my monitor won't show anything. |
| 17:39.17 | foxlit | s/./ point / |
| 17:39.32 | nevcairiel | good that every OS has a fallback dialog on resolution changes |
| 17:39.32 | DWSR | O_O |
| 17:39.41 | DWSR | nevcairiel: I hit escape. |
| 17:39.41 | nevcairiel | changes back after 30s or so |
| 17:39.52 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Which *should* have meant "NO I CAN'T SEE SHIT" |
| 17:39.57 | DWSR | But I think it canceled it out. |
| 17:41.53 | DWSR | anyone know how I can boot to Windows Safe Mode with GRUB? |
| 17:42.14 | nevcairiel | just hit escape after selecting windows in grub? |
| 17:42.20 | nevcairiel | or wait, f8 it is |
| 17:42.52 | DWSR | No way to add a param to the grub comand sequence? |
| 17:43.12 | DWSR | s/com/comm/ |
| 17:43.17 | alestane | DWSR: I won't say there isn't, but if there is I have no idea what it is. |
| 17:44.05 | Cruciformer | you hit F8 right after selecting Windows. its not a parameter its a keypress. |
| 17:44.08 | DWSR | alright, let's try f8 then |
| 17:44.31 | Cruciformer | and spam it it sometimes doesnt pick it up |
| 17:44.38 | DWSR | I'm fairly sure there's a way to just pass it a safe mode parameter so that you don't have to hit F8. |
| 17:44.45 | DWSR | There's a way with the Linux kernel, for instance. |
| 17:44.57 | nevcairiel | there is because grub directly boots the kernel |
| 17:45.01 | nevcairiel | it doesnt boot the windows kernel |
| 17:45.08 | nevcairiel | it just forwards to the windows boot loader |
| 17:45.21 | DWSR | ah, makes sense. |
| 17:45.23 | Shirik | hum |
| 17:45.25 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Wierd |
| 17:45.32 | Cruciformer | you can edit teh boot.ini file I believe but that wont help you from grub. |
| 17:45.34 | Shirik | sp_databases really doesn't work. I was able to use USE and get to the database |
| 17:45.37 | Shirik | but it doesn't show up in sp_databases |
| 17:45.40 | Shirik | must be a permissions thing |
| 17:45.53 | Lopeppeppy | Permissions sucks!! |
| 17:45.54 | DWSR | !seen Cairenn |
| 17:45.55 | ScytheBlade1 | possibly |
| 17:46.11 | DWSR | If configured incorrectly. |
| 17:46.12 | malreth | ~seen Cairenn |
| 17:46.18 | purl | cairenn <n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 11h 38m 45s ago, saying: 'what the hell? http://ihasahotdog.com/2009/07/14/funny-dog-pictures-regret-view/'. |
| 17:55.01 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/142184324 |
| 17:59.45 | Lunessa | "And if your eye got poked out in this life would it be waiting up in heaven with your wife? I love this song. |
| 18:00.01 | DWSR | mkay. |
| 18:00.04 | DWSR | time to boot WoW. |
| 18:00.10 | DWSR | Fire up this sucker and see how it runs. |
| 18:00.12 | Shirik | cries |
| 18:00.25 | Shirik | I've been using MSSQL for about 5 minutes now and I already hate it |
| 18:00.28 | Shirik | http://www.crydust.be/blog/2006/12/26/mssql-lacks-describe-statement/ |
| 18:01.13 | DWSR | Shirik: You act like this is something that wasn't to be expected. |
| 18:01.25 | ScytheBlade1 | It's one of the single most T-SQL compliant (and awesome) databases out there |
| 18:02.20 | Shirik | I'll give it that |
| 18:02.25 | DWSR | ScytheBlade1: Indeed. |
| 18:02.31 | Shirik | but lack of a DESCRIBE is a bit hard to justify |
| 18:02.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Not really |
| 18:02.49 | ScytheBlade1 | It's been quite some time since I used it, but really |
| 18:02.50 | DWSR | Shirik: Apparently sp_database works as a DESCRIBE. |
| 18:02.52 | Shirik | now I have to go look up how to make a stored procedure |
| 18:02.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Use the documentation |
| 18:03.08 | DWSR | RTFM Shirik. |
| 18:03.09 | DWSR | DO EET |
| 18:03.09 | Shirik | I do not see any sp_database in the documentation |
| 18:03.11 | Shirik | I am fool |
| 18:03.17 | DWSR | err, sorry. |
| 18:03.19 | DWSR | sp_collumns |
| 18:03.25 | DWSR | wow. |
| 18:03.35 | ScytheBlade1 | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms176070.aspx |
| 18:03.36 | DWSR | s/coll/col/ |
| 18:03.43 | Shirik | oh :( I missed that one |
| 18:03.43 | ScytheBlade1 | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms176077.aspx |
| 18:03.48 | DWSR | DUDE. |
| 18:03.50 | Shirik | I looked for "table" "describe" |
| 18:03.54 | Shirik | why columns! |
| 18:03.57 | DWSR | 60FPS IN DAL FTMFW. |
| 18:04.19 | Shirik | ok I hate it less now |
| 18:04.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: check out the index on the left. |
| 18:04.30 | ScytheBlade1 | It's... comprehensive. |
| 18:04.34 | Shirik | I saw it! |
| 18:04.38 | Shirik | and I didn't see that one :( |
| 18:04.42 | Shirik | there's a lot to choose from |
| 18:04.50 | Shirik | I saw column_privileges |
| 18:04.52 | ScytheBlade1 | yes there is |
| 18:05.15 | Shirik | can't blame me for missing it |
| 18:06.12 | DWSR | yes we can. |
| 18:06.15 | Shirik | new problem |
| 18:06.18 | Shirik | how to make this readable |
| 18:06.25 | Shirik | stupid command line not getting bigger :( |
| 18:09.57 | DWSR | anyone know why the game won't let me fly out from Krasus' Landing? |
| 18:10.09 | ScytheBlade1 | lag, or subtle bug |
| 18:10.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Run back out to the street, then back to the landing |
| 18:10.41 | DWSR | ROFL\ |
| 18:10.49 | DWSR | I leave Dal my framrate jumps to 60. |
| 18:10.55 | DWSR | so lulzy. |
| 18:11.08 | DWSR | omg, farclip @ max is so nom nom |
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| 18:14.11 | Shirik | probably could be higher than 60 |
| 18:14.20 | Shirik | turn off vsync |
| 18:14.26 | DWSR | it's off |
| 18:14.49 | Shirik | ok |
| 18:14.49 | Shirik | stare at a wall |
| 18:14.53 | Shirik | that always makes my FPS go up |
| 18:14.59 | DWSR | I have everything pushed up to max, and my framrate really chokes when I push the shadows to max. |
| 18:15.00 | Shirik | it reaches 30 sometimes when I do that |
| 18:15.14 | DWSR | If I leave shadows at medium, and leave everything else maxed, I get 30FPS in Dal and 60 everywhere else. |
| 18:15.22 | DWSR | probably a sign that my CPU is fucking slow. |
| 18:16.52 | Shirik | probably IO tbh |
| 18:17.02 | Shirik | there's a lot of models to load in dalaran |
| 18:17.06 | DWSR | yeah, no kidding. |
| 18:17.09 | Shirik | simply because there's so much gear |
| 18:17.12 | foxlit | Shirik: if that was the working theory, it would get better. |
| 18:17.17 | Shirik | it does for me |
| 18:17.32 | foxlit | Past the initial "zomgbrickwall", sure. |
| 18:17.40 | alestane | I sometimes get disconnected while logging in if I logged out in Dalaran. |
| 18:17.42 | Shirik | well keep in mind, people are constantly entering and leaving |
| 18:17.44 | foxlit | Not to the level of environments outside Dalaran, though. |
| 18:18.14 | DWSR | dude. |
| 18:18.16 | foxlit | And, for what it's worth, sewers perform MUCH better. |
| 18:18.17 | Lunessa | I especially enjoy logging in to Dalaran and finding everyone naked because textures are still loading. |
| 18:18.18 | DWSR | TF2 with this card. |
| 18:18.20 | DWSR | NOM NOM AA. |
| 18:18.28 | DWSR | NOM NOM Texture filtering. |
| 18:18.32 | Lopeppeppy | I hate Dalaran and Shattrath, end of story. |
| 18:18.59 | alestane | Shattrath isn't so bad anymore. |
| 18:19.13 | alestane | Ironforge is laggier than Shattrath on my server. |
| 18:19.18 | Lunessa | because it's a gorram ghost town |
| 18:19.34 | DWSR | Lagforge has always been a problem. |
| 18:19.40 | Lopeppeppy | The damn lava |
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| 18:20.39 | DWSR | lulz. |
| 18:20.46 | alestane | I remember seeing "WTB Engineer to build walls around stupid damn pit" in trade chat there once, back when trade chat was city-isolated. |
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| 18:22.51 | ZorbaTHut | I love Dalaran, best city ever |
| 18:22.52 | Fisker | i remember you alestane |
| 18:22.55 | Fisker | in the mountains |
| 18:27.21 | TopTop18 | Love Darnassus, nice and quite. And I'm a druid |
| 18:27.34 | TopTop18 | *quiet |
| 18:31.16 | Lunessa | Happiness is getting the Lockheed-Martin guy and his conference call out of my office. |
| 18:31.25 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! |
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| 18:32.59 | DWSR | Dude. |
| 18:33.03 | DWSR | Prototype NOM NOM\ |
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| 18:38.17 | Lunessa | Our general access wireless network doesn't present a server cert - which means his secure laptop refuses to connect to it. His problem is understandable, but listening to his network guy be shitty in the conference call was getting old. |
| 18:41.07 | Lopeppeppy | Did said asshat realize it was a conference call? *wants to slay him* |
| 18:41.39 | durcyn | Someone's bloodthirsty today. |
| 18:41.54 | alestane | "today"? |
| 18:42.09 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously. I'm a very bitey dinosaur |
| 18:43.52 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 18:43.55 | |Jelly| | hugs Peppy. |
| 18:44.57 | Lunessa | The network guy on the other end obviously thought our network crew was stupid because our wireless access for students doesn't have it's own cert file. |
| 18:45.11 | Fisker | Microsoft Math Input Panel doesn't less than three me :( |
| 18:45.14 | Lunessa | ANd while he wasn't saying it, he was implying it with every comment. |
| 18:46.02 | Lopeppeppy | Access for students does NOT need to be as secure as friggin' Lockheed Martin, kthx. |
| 18:46.35 | Lopeppeppy | Little fish in his little world needs to be cooked and eaten. |
| 18:46.44 | Lunessa | Yeah, and because his hardware was not our hardware, he can't be on our secured wireless. |
| 18:47.17 | Fisker | hello Lopeppeppy |
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| 18:50.02 | alestane | hems and haws at malreth's D/C text. |
| 18:50.15 | Lopeppeppy | malreth is weird that way, dear. |
| 18:50.28 | alestane | And I can actually understand what it says. |
| 18:50.59 | alestane | It's rather coarse Japanese. |
| 18:51.24 | Lopeppeppy | Thankfully, it's unintelligible unicode to me. |
| 18:53.02 | Fisker | but i said herro :( |
| 18:53.35 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hi, Fisker. How's yer day? |
| 18:54.00 | Fisker | idk |
| 18:54.28 | Lopeppeppy | Scintillating |
| 18:54.38 | Lunessa | I can't read Kanji |
| 18:56.01 | alestane | I'll spell out the kana then: ãã¡ã®ãªãã¤ãã¦ããï¼ |
| 18:56.13 | Lunessa | I can't read that either. |
| 18:56.43 | Lunessa | Not as in "my machine can't" but as in "I don't know the language" |
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| 18:57.12 | Lopeppeppy | pounces AbsolutRayne! |
| 18:57.17 | alestane | Ah, you could have been less specific then. |
| 18:57.35 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: :O ! |
| 18:57.45 | Lopeppeppy | Missed you! |
| 18:57.55 | AbsolutRayne | Daw :) <3 |
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| 18:58.17 | Lunessa | alestane: Specificity is a trait I have in spades. |
| 18:59.08 | alestane | And when you say that you can't read Kanji, I fail to interpret that as meaning that you can;'t read (or in fact otherwise understand) Japanese, sorry. |
| 18:59.13 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: I got Forum Banned for a few days :P |
| 18:59.20 | Lopeppeppy | Tsk tsk! |
| 18:59.24 | Lopeppeppy | I haven't seen you in here either though. |
| 18:59.27 | AbsolutRayne | Figured I might as well poke my head in here and say Hi, it has been awhile. |
| 18:59.33 | AbsolutRayne | Ive been sidetracked lately |
| 18:59.49 | Lunessa | alestane: I know about a dozen or so words in the language but I can't read the characters - I'm illiterate in Japanese. |
| 18:59.52 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi hi. |
| 19:00.17 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Im updating Iced Cherry today, if you still use it O_o |
| 19:00.40 | Lopeppeppy | I will still use it, when I find where I packed my authenticator. o.O |
| 19:00.48 | AbsolutRayne | O_o |
| 19:00.55 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: http://hdimage.org/images/x8nqldp16o51ckd5ijsc.jpg v2 |
| 19:01.50 | AbsolutRayne | The font isnt the same, though, it |
| 19:01.55 | AbsolutRayne | bah,enter fail |
| 19:02.02 | AbsolutRayne | it'll be Arial Narrow in the release |
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| 19:02.19 | Lopeppeppy | What goes in the empty space below? |
| 19:02.31 | AbsolutRayne | Raid /Party Frames |
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| 19:03.12 | AbsolutRayne | http://hdimage.org/images/4g83gzbjhd4evvw104a0.jpg Raid |
| 19:05.39 | Lunessa | I like the pencil-thin lines on the SLDT stuff, but the gradient line seems kind of long on the player/target frame. |
| 19:08.55 | AbsolutRayne | Lunessa: They look a little off with normal player frames, but with Boss Frames they look nice |
| 19:09.06 | AbsolutRayne | Also, whos a JCer and does the Daily? |
| 19:09.11 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 19:09.16 | alestane | ScytheBlade1: I've concluded that Protoss 7 bites, hard. |
| 19:09.19 | Lunessa | Rayne, I am. |
| 19:10.17 | AbsolutRayne | Lunessa: Wheres the best place to do the BloodJade Amuler Daily |
| 19:10.31 | AbsolutRayne | Which you need the Vrykul Amulet |
| 19:10.46 | Lunessa | That in Icecrown or Grizzly Hills |
| 19:11.33 | AbsolutRayne | Ok, ty :) |
| 19:13.53 | AbsolutRayne | Ah god I cant stop sneezing |
| 19:14.34 | Lunessa | Bless you. |
| 19:17.09 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: to be honest, that's probably the single hardest mission they throw at you |
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| 19:23.42 | AbsolutRayne | Going tohop into some Arma2 |
| 19:24.39 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: destroy the heart of the conclave, right? |
| 19:26.16 | Dagmar | So, if you need to know when would be the best time to try and drop a satellite on someone, or were wondering whether or not there's one immediately available for dropping, now we've got http://www.n2yo.com/ |
| 19:27.57 | Dagmar | It also shows that yes indeed they ARE watching you. |
| 19:30.25 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/41749/birmingham-test-item-3/ |
| 19:30.53 | Dagmar | Is your name Brian? :) |
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| 19:39.17 | alestane | ScytheBlade1: Yes. They give you three powerful units to not let die, start two of them under fire, and are allowed to make TWO classes of flying units that you can't. |
| 19:39.33 | alestane | I despise arbiters. |
| 19:39.50 | alestane | Not so much for their cloaking as for their "You sit now" ability. |
| 19:40.26 | alestane | Particularly brutal against the protoss, who have a lot more power tied up in each individual unit. |
| 19:41.53 | Lopeppeppy | Construct additional pylons. |
| 19:42.15 | alestane | Pylons are good, but they don't help much against arbiters as far as I can tell. |
| 19:42.53 | Lopeppeppy | Teasing. |
| 19:43.06 | Lopeppeppy | I do that from time to time to time to all the time. |
| 19:43.55 | alestane | I'm sort of thinking that observers are more important than they might seem in that scenario, though. |
| 19:44.09 | alestane | kisses Lopeppeppy on her teasing cheek. |
| 19:44.39 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 19:47.02 | Lopeppeppy | The shotgun approach to marketing gives me a headache, I tells ya. |
| 19:47.35 | alestane | Shotgun? |
| 19:48.15 | Lopeppeppy | Pellets fly everywhere, but nothing truly gets shot hard enough to hurt. |
| 19:48.24 | Lunessa | Blow a lot of fucking stuff out there and hope some of it makes you some sales. |
| 19:48.42 | durcyn | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1594744424 |
| 19:48.55 | durcyn | from the people who brought you "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" |
| 19:48.58 | Lopeppeppy | Don't concentrate on any one avenue long enough to see if it's going to be useful, or to analyze it to see if it was useful.... just blast and hope. |
| 19:53.26 | alestane | Spam advertising, more or less. |
| 19:53.28 | Lunessa | AKA - Teenage Boy Sex Approach. |
| 19:53.59 | alestane | Hit on as many girls as possible until you find one that's horny enough to say yes? |
| 19:54.35 | durcyn | also known as 'pin the tail on the fat chick with low self esteem' |
| 19:54.48 | Lunessa | alestane: Bingo |
| 19:55.15 | Lopeppeppy | For a college, it's a stupid freakin' approach. Rawr. |
| 19:55.20 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr means many things in dinosaur. |
| 19:55.39 | alestane | Doesn't it mean just about everything, in dinosaur? |
| 19:56.44 | Lopeppeppy | Just like Station. |
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| 20:06.53 | Shirik | rawr isn't how you saw rawr though |
| 20:06.55 | Shirik | RAWR means rawr |
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| 20:10.40 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: yeah, the only real "tricks" to that mission are (1) retreating the MOMENT you get control of your units and (2) grouping all of your units together, so they ALL get stasis field at the same instant |
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| 20:11.58 | kd3 | yay! connectivity |
| 20:12.08 | kd3 | <3 a lightning strike taking out phone service on sunday and getting it back today |
| 20:12.15 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, ouch |
| 20:12.32 | Lunessa | kd3: teh suq |
| 20:12.45 | kd3 | fears his email backlog |
| 20:13.37 | Lopeppeppy | Sucky, kd3! *hug* |
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| 20:14.54 | alestane | And all their reavers seem to be accompanied to observers to make dark templar assassinations that much harder. |
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| 20:15.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. I used a group of 12 scouts + piles of photon cannons for defense |
| 20:15.55 | ScytheBlade1 | And actually, a pair of reavers + shield battery |
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| 20:16.14 | alestane | Yeah, I don't usually get much use of shield batteries, might need to consider it. |
| 20:16.36 | ScytheBlade1 | With the right micro, the shield batteries will make reavers invincible |
| 20:16.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Reavers take out the dragoons/zealots, scouts take out the carriers/reavers |
| 20:18.10 | A-KO | Question: Is there a good resource for tutorials or information and explanations of the XML component of designing a UI? Integrating things like frames, text, buttons, etc? Most of the tutorials I've found are outdated or don't work (like faraframes' tutorial fails because the functions do not work properly). I've gotten the LUA part down pretty well (I'm familiar with programming languages), just not the XML part. If anyone has any information that would be |
| 20:18.12 | krka | A-KO: Dude, it's not an acronym! ^_^ |
| 20:18.37 | ScytheBlade1 | A-KO: krka means LUA --> lua which is the portugese word for moon |
| 20:18.37 | alestane | Just to warn you, I think that's an automated response. |
| 20:18.54 | ScytheBlade1 | That said, a good XML editor which can read/use the XML schema does wonders. |
| 20:19.01 | malreth | A-KO: is this for a Project you're working on? |
| 20:19.47 | A-KO | malreth: just learning WoW UI dev. |
| 20:20.02 | malreth | A-KO: so you agree with my statement? |
| 20:20.10 | A-KO | uhm, then yes? |
| 20:20.26 | malreth | Then I fully support this Project A-KO is working on |
| 20:20.31 | malreth | snickers |
| 20:20.33 | A-KO | .... |
| 20:20.44 | alestane | Congratulations, you've been set up. |
| 20:20.46 | Lopeppeppy | ~pil |
| 20:20.47 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 20:20.48 | alestane | ~rimshot |
| 20:20.48 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 20:20.49 | Lopeppeppy | ~wowprogramming |
| 20:20.50 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons ~ http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob ~ a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 20:20.52 | Shirik | I have a good tutorial on how to use XML to design a UI |
| 20:20.58 | Shirik | It's very easy to understand |
| 20:21.01 | Shirik | Step 1: Don't. |
| 20:21.01 | Lopeppeppy | ~Shirik ! |
| 20:21.02 | purl | it has been said that shirik is "If I had to sum up my life, I'd have to say, the one thing I hate doing is nothing." --Shirik |
| 20:21.06 | Shirik | Step 2: There is no step 2 |
| 20:21.42 | malreth | agrees with Shirik |
| 20:21.53 | Shirik | If you've got Lua understood, why move over to XML? That's my basis for that statement :P |
| 20:22.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: heathen |
| 20:22.04 | Nuckin | XML = suckage |
| 20:22.11 | Shirik | there is very little things you can't do in Lua that you can in XML, and there's an alternative in Lua to get around that |
| 20:22.20 | Shirik | I personally just don't like XML |
| 20:22.33 | nevcairiel | I like XML, just not for UI design |
| 20:22.43 | Shirik | well |
| 20:22.46 | Shirik | yeah, that's what I mean |
| 20:23.44 | ScytheBlade1 | A-KO: a good XML editor that can work with the XSD file will give you pretty much everything you need |
| 20:25.05 | Aelobin | do item comparison addons parse the tooltip or is there a way to pull stats from an item? |
| 20:25.08 | Lunessa | smacks both Shirik and malreth with a large hammer. |
| 20:25.27 | malreth | oh come on! you can NOT blame me for doing that! |
| 20:25.49 | malreth | how often does a chance like that come along? |
| 20:26.03 | malreth | one in a million? nay, a BILLION! |
| 20:26.21 | Shirik | Lunessa: :( |
| 20:26.24 | Lopeppeppy | And I had to ruin it with usefulness. I'm so sorry. Forgive me. :P |
| 20:26.35 | Shirik | and what did Lopeppeppy do |
| 20:26.48 | Lopeppeppy | Didn't smart off. |
| 20:27.16 | Lunessa | Everyone here loves to hate on XML - but it has its place in your tool kit as a deveolper. |
| 20:27.57 | malreth | oh... i thought you were punishing me for the Project A-Ko reference |
| 20:28.08 | malreth | and punishing Shirik for... being so smart |
| 20:28.18 | Lunessa | Hell no. That gets you a drink next time I'm in Austin. |
| 20:28.50 | Lopeppeppy | I go home now. You all play nice, see ya tomorrow!! |
| 20:28.55 | malreth | bye peppy |
| 20:34.04 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:01.14 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.hulu.com/watch/82990/the-tonight-show-with-conan-obrien-michael-phelps-part-2#s-p1-sr-i1 |
| 21:01.17 | ScytheBlade1 | first 20 seconds |
| 21:03.17 | Fisker | RAGE |
| 21:03.37 | Fisker | i will destroy you ScytheBlade1 |
| 21:03.42 | ScytheBlade1 | poor Fiskerdin |
| 21:03.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't watch hulu |
| 21:03.54 | Fisker | >:E |
| 21:10.11 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_071509_202604.jpg and http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_071509_202451.jpg :D |
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| 21:10.52 | kd3 | whee, a little under an hour until shuttle launch |
| 21:11.54 | Fisker | Shuttles don't take an hour to create kd3 |
| 21:12.58 | Lunessa | mikma: your ui makes my brain hurt. |
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| 21:14.08 | Lunessa | kd3: You going to watch live? |
| 21:14.10 | ScytheBlade1 | buhaha @ http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/07/15/2050215/Software-Glitch-Leads-To-23148855308184500-Visa-Charges?art_pos=1&art_pos=1 |
| 21:14.22 | kd3 | as live as I can from outside of atlanta |
| 21:15.07 | ZorbaTHut | I need to go clean up my UI at some point |
| 21:15.14 | Lunessa | Yeah, I meant like live feed/tv etc. |
| 21:15.15 | ZorbaTHut | mikma, what's the stream of numbers in the topleft there? |
| 21:15.26 | Lunessa | Eavesdrop I bet |
| 21:17.17 | ZorbaTHut | interesting, I may have to give that a shot |
| 21:19.35 | mikma | zorbathut: it's MiniCombatLog |
| 21:19.48 | mikma | lunessa: it's not meant to please, it's functional :D |
| 21:20.13 | mikma | the whole idea was the OhSnap in the pictures, telling me what opposite faction has buffed on himself |
| 21:20.17 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, my UI is firmly in the functional camp |
| 21:20.29 | Lunessa | mikma: That's fine. I like functional. I just couldn't function like that. This is why UI customization is awesome. |
| 21:20.29 | ZorbaTHut | I need to do a lot more work to it though, it's getting damn cluttered and simultaneously not giving me all the info I want |
| 21:21.02 | nicoli_s | ZorbaTHut, you get in touch with netcurse? he was pinging you earlier |
| 21:21.10 | ZorbaTHut | nicoli, yeah, thanks :) |
| 21:21.32 | nicoli_s | coo |
| 21:22.07 | mikma | lunessa: i'm thinking about skipping the MSBT completely once OhSnap is finished :P |
| 21:22.38 | Lunessa | *nod* You don't need it for damage and healing numbers. |
| 21:23.08 | mikma | ya |
| 21:24.37 | TopTop18 | A-KO, WoWwiki has a nice explanation, and the wowprogramming book is awesome! |
| 21:25.45 | Lunessa | Got the launch on the big screen in the office. |
| 21:25.45 | TopTop18 | And you can also write addons without xml :D |
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| 21:27.14 | foxlit | mikma: What's that you say about "Sacred Shield"? |
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| 21:27.38 | mikma | foxlit: what abouts it? |
| 21:27.49 | foxlit | "Immune, Breakable"? |
| 21:28.14 | mikma | it's for divine shield, not sacred |
| 21:28.22 | foxlit | So why the text mismatch? |
| 21:28.24 | mikma | oh sorry |
| 21:28.35 | mikma | it was for sacred |
| 21:28.43 | mikma | sacred is "absorbs n+1 amount of damage" |
| 21:29.07 | mikma | and the paladin is immune to everything, breakable means "hitting him will break the bubble" |
| 21:29.27 | foxlit | "Each time the target takes damage they gain a Sacred Shield, absorbing 500 damage and increasing the paladin's chance to critically hit with Flash of Light by 50% for up to 6 sec. " |
| 21:29.42 | foxlit | That doesn't sound like what you say it does. |
| 21:29.43 | mikma | exactly my point with the text |
| 21:30.01 | foxlit | There's no immunity component, it would seem. |
| 21:30.04 | mikma | well some "protection bubbles" have like -70% damage |
| 21:30.24 | mikma | he is infact immune to pretty much everything with the sacred shield on :P |
| 21:30.27 | foxlit | It just eats a static 500 + SP damage. |
| 21:30.37 | mikma | there's not way of describing that in short way |
| 21:31.09 | mikma | it can't be "absorbs 500 damage" |
| 21:31.14 | mikma | cause... |
| 21:31.21 | mikma | "Each time the target takes damage they gain a Sacred Shield, .." |
| 21:31.33 | foxlit | max one per 6 seconds. |
| 21:31.52 | mikma | and he is immune to anything when sacred shield is on :) |
| 21:32.03 | foxlit | I don't see where you're reading immunity from. |
| 21:32.06 | mikma | give me a cool way of indicating it in a other way |
| 21:32.19 | mikma | foxlit: hit -> immune. spell -> immune |
| 21:32.25 | mikma | that's what MSBT says and combatlog too |
| 21:32.35 | foxlit | You must have the wrong shield. |
| 21:33.03 | foxlit | I mean, nowhere, in that ability description, or anywhere in the comments does it even mention immunity |
| 21:33.50 | foxlit | "Absorbs damage, Dispellable" would be my description. |
| 21:34.06 | mikma | hey, cool thing is, i'm open to suggestion / changes! |
| 21:34.21 | mikma | but, the descriptions can |
| 21:34.24 | mikma | can't be long |
| 21:34.37 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: Muszynski compared the giant debt reprieve to receiving "an amazing Monopoly card that says, 'Bank error in your favor.' " |
| 21:34.42 | foxlit | I'd say length takes a back seat to accuracy. |
| 21:34.44 | mikma | foxlit: http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=OhSnap&path=%2Ftrunk%2FSpells.lua |
| 21:35.13 | mikma | foxlit: you are more than welcome (please?) to change the descriptions to match :) |
| 21:35.25 | mikma | it will go in with the next commit i make |
| 21:36.04 | mikma | or, just ask permissions from jnwhiteh :) |
| 21:36.54 | Fisker | bank errors in your favor? |
| 21:36.56 | Fisker | impossible |
| 21:41.03 | malreth | I KNEW IT! http://www.downoneveryoneorjustme.com/Fisker |
| 21:41.34 | Fisker | http://www.downoneveryoneorjustme.com/malreth |
| 21:41.54 | malreth | yes, but everyone already knew i was a slut |
| 21:42.11 | Adys | http://www.downoneveryoneorjustme.com/he |
| 21:42.12 | Fisker | detonates a nuclear bomb |
| 21:42.35 | foxlit | mikma: Something like http://pastey.net/117541-2hx7:117540-vb6l |
| 21:43.54 | mikma | foxlit: you mixed Ice Block and Ice Barrier |
| 21:44.24 | foxlit | Probably more than that |
| 21:44.25 | mikma | foxlit: see the list nr.2 at the middle of the page, etc :) |
| 21:44.34 | mikma | there's 3 different set of spells |
| 21:44.53 | mikma | 1 = "notice", 2 = "alert", 3 = "danger" |
| 21:45.51 | foxlit | 3 = nil :) |
| 21:46.00 | nicoli_s | Adys, you should make it so that the tooltips on mmochamp work before the page is done loading |
| 21:46.16 | nicoli_s | cuz sometimes the ads make it take a while to load so no tooltips till then |
| 21:46.35 | mikma | foxlit: it's nil now, but it will work later when i code the CLEU -watcher |
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| 21:47.02 | foxlit | and you match [1] spells how? |
| 21:47.30 | foxlit | just buff name? |
| 21:47.52 | mikma | yeap |
| 21:47.58 | mikma | 1 and 2 are watched atm |
| 21:48.00 | foxlit | You then have issues. |
| 21:48.04 | mikma | they both work, as shown in the pictures |
| 21:49.22 | foxlit | I was thinking more in terms of a buff name collision from one of the paladin/priest spells |
| 21:49.27 | foxlit | But perhaps that's not the case. |
| 21:49.49 | mikma | they don't share any spells that have same name afaik |
| 21:51.20 | foxlit | It's all "divine" this, "sacred" that.... something's gotta give. |
| 21:52.12 | mikma | sorted :) |
| 21:53.46 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.08 | Lunessa | foxlit: divine, scared, holy - I'm telling you, it's like they're a church or something. |
| 21:55.27 | Lunessa | T -8 and counting |
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| 21:57.03 | mikma | lunessa: like, holy shit! |
| 21:59.04 | alestane | "Ghostcrawler: I know for a fact that the current Travel Form and Aquatic Form are loathed by the artist who redid bear and cat. We do have plans to update additional forms at some point in the future." |
| 22:00.04 | foxlit | either that's a fun typo |
| 22:00.44 | foxlit | or it's time to speculate where wow's art department was reassigned to. |
| 22:00.47 | Adys | nicoli_s: hm |
| 22:00.49 | Adys | I see |
| 22:01.13 | malreth | woo hoo! |
| 22:01.16 | malreth | later all |
| 22:01.58 | kd3 | whee... shuttle launch in ~60s |
| 22:02.15 | Adys | kd3: stream? |
| 22:02.23 | kd3 | nasa.gov/ntv |
| 22:03.25 | Thunder_Child | now it's 60 |
| 22:03.29 | Adys | windows media? |
| 22:03.33 | Adys | you got to be shitting me |
| 22:03.45 | Thunder_Child | it's the government |
| 22:04.50 | Adys | kd3: i suppose theres no stream that doesnt suck? |
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| 22:04.59 | Adys | kd3: i suppose theres no stream that doesnt suck? |
| 22:05.02 | Thunder_Child | to late, they already launched |
| 22:05.22 | Adys | ur mom already lanched |
| 22:05.24 | Adys | launched. |
| 22:06.55 | Adys | http://www.nasa.gov/178952main_Mission_Audio_UP.asx |
| 22:06.58 | Adys | yay for vlc. |
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| 22:07.37 | kd3 | grr |
| 22:08.10 | bleeter | raaar |
| 22:08.38 | Thunder_Child | they really should have someone else talking, feels like i am getting the "emergency landing" procedures speach |
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| 22:13.05 | bleeter | foxlit: I'd go with the latter |
| 22:15.39 | NeoTron | they need the ground travel form speed to scale with the mount speed the user is capable off |
| 22:15.44 | NeoTron | or rather.. should :) |
| 22:15.46 | Lunessa | Back from watching the first 10 minutes of flight. |
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| 23:22.36 | Thunder_Child | lol @ this months wired cover |
| 23:22.46 | Cairenn | Wow, I'm really surprised, hardly anyone has signed up for the dinner yet. Maybe people don't want to do it again? |
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| 23:23.14 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, i'm a maybe if i can convince someone to take me down there ^_^ |
| 23:23.39 | kd3 | meh, today's my first day on the net since early sunday |
| 23:23.42 | kd3 | >.> |
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| 23:24.18 | Cairenn | saw you signed up kd3 :) |
| 23:24.56 | netcurse | i would come Cairenn, but i can't attend blizzcon this year |
| 23:25.01 | Cairenn | boo! |
| 23:25.05 | Cairenn | :( |
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| 23:46.12 | Cairenn | Hey Sargeras? Get signed up for supper already! :) |
| 23:46.19 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25437 |
| 23:52.12 | ckknight | Cairenn: basically, I'll come if it's not on the 22nd |
| 23:52.30 | Cairenn | it won't be |
| 23:52.55 | Cairenn | it's usually on the Friday night, but I'm considering bumping it back to the Thursday night instead, so people don't miss the contests |
| 23:53.16 | ckknight | ok |
| 23:56.34 | Lunessa | I'm so totally going. I'm going to shoot straw-wrappers at Cladhaire and Cairenn |
| 23:56.41 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:56.46 | Lopeppeppy | *big eyes* |
| 23:56.59 | Cairenn | gonna miss you Lopeppeppy :( |
| 23:57.19 | Lunessa | comforts Lopeppeppy and offers to bring her souvenirs. |
| 23:57.32 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, Lunessa-toys are the bestest! |
| 23:57.54 | Lunessa | Oh, and for those asking about sound replacements, please to be seeing this new sticky - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18358913632&sid=1 |
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