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| 00:12.56 | Thunder_Child | interesting, i did not know that bleeter though himself to good to breed with Nechckn |
| 00:13.01 | Industrial | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6kLb17Cl7I&fmt=18 |
| 00:13.22 | Industrial | cans omeone check this vid and tell me if its adequate, like does it show you what the addon does |
| 00:13.26 | Industrial | or not |
| 00:14.14 | Thunder_Child | well i can not read what you type...thats for sure |
| 00:14.36 | Lunessa | And it's all so compressed as to be unclear. |
| 00:14.47 | Thunder_Child | i assume however what it does is auto accept and complete quests |
| 00:15.02 | Industrial | yes :p |
| 00:15.20 | Thunder_Child | i'd use it |
| 00:15.25 | foxlit | THE JUMPING ELF DISEASE. RUN! |
| 00:15.31 | foxlit | HIDE! SAVE YOUR MURLOCS! |
| 00:15.49 | Industrial | all murlocs shall be slain at the hands of my jumping elf |
| 00:15.52 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: though? |
| 00:16.12 | Thunder_Child | Industrial, though i assume there is a keybind to disable it's use. eg. shift rclick |
| 00:16.24 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, huh? |
| 00:16.30 | Industrial | Thunder_Child: hold shift when interacting |
| 00:16.51 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: 10:12 < Thunder_Child> interesting, i did not know that bleeter though himself ... |
| 00:17.00 | Industrial | it WILL eg pick aldor automatically |
| 00:17.03 | Thunder_Child | "TC-Away: interesting, i did not know that bleeter though himself to good to breed with Nechckn" |
| 00:17.13 | Thunder_Child | odd that it cut off bleeter |
| 00:17.25 | bleeter | "i did not know that bleeter though himself" wth does that mean? |
| 00:17.38 | bleeter | it didn't cut off, you merely made no sense! :P |
| 00:17.39 | Thunder_Child | thought* |
| 00:17.44 | bleeter | oh, ah, kk |
| 00:17.46 | Thunder_Child | missed a t |
| 00:17.53 | bleeter | is having crazy morning |
| 00:17.58 | bleeter | s/zy/zier/ |
| 00:18.12 | Nechckn | Industrial the jumping is a bit crazy, other than that it is pretty clear. |
| 00:18.30 | Thunder_Child | Industrial, what will it do about quests when your book is full or dailys when you have hit 25? |
| 00:18.44 | Thunder_Child | of them completed |
| 00:19.51 | Thunder_Child | or low level quests? |
| 00:21.10 | Industrial | Nechckn: usually I jump the the beat of whatever I'm listening to, I tried not to :p |
| 00:21.49 | Industrial | Thunder_Child: when your book is full you cant accept quests so it won't, dont know about the dailies |
| 00:21.50 | Nechckn | hehehhe all good- see, I use headphones that I don't wear all the time, so without the music it looks really funny. |
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| 00:22.30 | Thunder_Child | Industrial, but it doesnt auto close when your log is full i dont think so it will still stay open iirc |
| 00:23.05 | Thunder_Child | s/think/think,/ |
| 00:23.22 | Industrial | hm, I should add a clip where I fly by on a flying mount and accept a quest :p |
| 00:23.37 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* thats still redundant TC |
| 00:28.18 | NightHawkTheSane | cancels his account... |
| 00:30.52 | Industrial | :O |
| 00:31.11 | Industrial | third time? :P |
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| 00:34.02 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: I suspect you just can't turn in more than 25 dailies per day |
| 00:34.15 | Esamynn | given that they don't count towards the limit UNTIL you turn them in |
| 00:34.49 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, but is the turn in trigger there? |
| 00:35.06 | Thunder_Child | eg. will it try to turn it in and fail, or is there nothing at all? |
| 00:35.19 | Esamynn | I would suspect so, just like the Accept trigger is there for quests when you have a full log |
| 00:35.37 | Esamynn | the button is there, and you can try, but it just fails with an error |
| 00:35.50 | Esamynn | like if there is an item reward and your inventory is full |
| 00:36.25 | Thunder_Child | right all of these things need looking into i was simply mentioning them in case Industrial hadnt thought of it |
| 00:37.32 | Industrial | ugh now I need to go do _twentyfive_ dailies -_- |
| 00:37.33 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 00:37.41 | Esamynn | lol, poor Industrial |
| 00:38.00 | Esamynn | Industrial: easy check, look for an appropriate error message in GlobalStrings.lua |
| 00:38.15 | Esamynn | if there is one, that's probably a safe bet |
| 00:38.15 | Thunder_Child | i feel for you Industrial, i hate em myself |
| 00:39.06 | bleeter | 10:34 <+Esamynn> Thunder_Child: I suspect you just can't turn in more than 25 dailies per day << well you can, but it involves messing around at the boundaries of the day and it all evens out eventually anyways ;) |
| 00:39.27 | bleeter | presuming, of course, the bug's still not fixed. Last saw it in... think it was 3.1.1, so presume it's still there |
| 00:39.35 | bleeter | just not as ugly as it was in 2.x |
| 00:39.46 | Esamynn | bug? |
| 00:39.48 | Esamynn | what bug? |
| 00:40.11 | Thunder_Child | i thought they reset at 3 and you couldnt turn in anything after 2 or somesuch |
| 00:40.23 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: yeah something like that |
| 00:40.35 | Esamynn | shrugs |
| 00:40.48 | Esamynn | I've obviously never tried to turn in dailes at that time in the morning |
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| 00:41.28 | bleeter | Esamynn: it played havoc with oceanics and summertime ;) |
| 00:41.37 | Esamynn | lol |
| 00:41.57 | bleeter | specially on RP realms as there are no RP servers in Oceania. 3AM is like 10PM over here or something, ie primetime |
| 00:42.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Industrial: no, only 2nd time so far. :P |
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| 00:53.53 | Industrial | nn |
| 00:56.09 | Torhal | Thunder_Child: I've turned in dailies right up to the point where I saw "You can only do 25 more daily quests today." |
| 00:56.34 | Torhal | 3am server is the rollover. |
| 00:58.27 | bleeter | Torhal: where's your battlegroup situated (which Datacenter) and which TZ is your realm in? iirc, that played a part into bug visibility |
| 00:58.47 | bleeter | kinda rhetorical question 'coz I don't fully recall the details, and don't care to |
| 01:01.35 | Lunessa | ... /boggle - http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/07/13/1727218/Wells-Fargo-Bank-Sues-Itself?from=rss |
| 01:01.48 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, i thought all the servers were in the same DC. for US anyway |
| 01:01.50 | airtonix | whats with the zombie movies? |
| 01:02.08 | Thunder_Child | airtonix, from CoD |
| 01:03.09 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: 4 datacentres http://www.wowwiki.com/US_realm_list_by_datacenter |
| 01:03.20 | bleeter | according to.. I guess... kd3 ;) |
| 01:03.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: that may have broken my mind. |
| 01:03.52 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: I'm still having trouble forming coherent thought. |
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| 01:04.29 | airtonix | zombie nazis, zombie themepark, zombie endof the world....zombiezombiezombies |
| 01:05.07 | Thunder_Child | figures bleeter, i xfered from the one in LA to the one in Seattle....and i live in LA |
| 01:05.09 | Seerah | well... so much for trying out linux. :p Fedora kept complaining about my hard disk(?) on boot and wouldn't load :p |
| 01:05.11 | Torhal | bleeter: Dunno on the battlegroup, but the server is Pacific time |
| 01:05.25 | Torhal | Seerah: Kubuntu |
| 01:05.35 | Seerah | Torhal: I almost downloaded that one instead |
| 01:05.43 | bleeter | Seerah: what were you trying? |
| 01:05.46 | Thunder_Child | it's all about FC |
| 01:06.19 | Arrowmaster | Seerah: complained how? |
| 01:06.20 | bleeter | every OS sucks |
| 01:06.22 | Seerah | bleeter: to boot Fedora from disk. Kept getting the SRST failed message |
| 01:06.40 | Thunder_Child | FC is the one that is most stable. and i should know, i have broken most of them |
| 01:06.42 | bleeter | Seerah: you didn't format your /boot (grub) as ext4, did you? :P |
| 01:06.43 | Seerah | web said was a hard drive thing |
| 01:06.55 | Seerah | bleeter: I don't know what that is, so I guess no :P |
| 01:07.02 | bleeter | 'coz FC didn't patch grub to use ext4 as the patch is wonky |
| 01:07.13 | bleeter | but people have still been setting it up |
| 01:07.15 | bleeter | oh, k |
| 01:07.44 | Seerah | tried disabling my hard drive in the system menu before boot, but still got the errors |
| 01:07.50 | Seerah | sighs |
| 01:07.58 | Seerah | I'll try Kubuntu and see if that does it |
| 01:08.55 | bleeter | looks like a kernel thing, yeah |
| 01:09.13 | bleeter | so a different distro, or an earlier fedora, may work around it, may not depending on how far back the kernel bug goes and your chipset, etc. |
| 01:09.19 | Lunessa | I should install a VM with Linux on this iMac. |
| 01:09.50 | bleeter | http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3104660.0 << kubuntu seen with same issue a month ago.. so... ;) |
| 01:09.57 | Seerah | I saw a bug on the tracker of someone having it on FC9, too... |
| 01:10.06 | Arrowmaster | im a non conformist, im going to use debian for the new desktop im building whenever the parts arive |
| 01:10.11 | Seerah | oh nice |
| 01:10.36 | Seerah | Arrowmaster: I've never ventured onto a linux machine, so was trying to stick with the more popular ones |
| 01:10.36 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, i'd be happy if i got a VM of an apple OS but no luck yet |
| 01:10.40 | bleeter | Seerah: try fiddling as much as you can with your BIOS's SATA settings |
| 01:11.02 | alestane | Lunessa: I've had students try to do that. It usually works just well enough to drive you bonkers when it doesn't. |
| 01:11.08 | Seerah | bleeter: all it had was to disable a drive or change it to being RAID always |
| 01:11.08 | bleeter | seems to me to be some weirdo thing that they've not yet managed to totally reverse engineer yet, or something... and flipping around the BIOS can work past it |
| 01:11.12 | Seerah | bleeter: neither worked |
| 01:11.16 | bleeter | Seerah: bugger |
| 01:11.18 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: ... Hackintosh forums not all that helpful? (don't know, haven't tried it). |
| 01:11.36 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, i have been there...maybe it's just me |
| 01:11.46 | Seerah | bleeter: I also saw online that changing from 3Gbps to 1.5 fixes it, but mine is already 1.5 |
| 01:12.03 | bleeter | Seerah: sounds like maybe you've got crap h/w that's like one of those old school windows only modems ;) |
| 01:12.05 | Arrowmaster | Seerah: you arent using a raid are you? |
| 01:12.07 | bleeter | :P |
| 01:12.18 | Seerah | Arrowmaster: no :p just trying anything :) |
| 01:12.49 | Seerah | starting to wonder if my hard drive is going, and that's why I have issues booting into windows sometimes, too |
| 01:12.59 | bleeter | hmm wonder if the nodmraid boot option may help |
| 01:13.00 | Seerah | then again... disabling it didn't help :p |
| 01:13.13 | Seerah | bleeter: ? |
| 01:13.28 | Arrowmaster | you are just trying to get a livecd to run right? not trying to install? |
| 01:13.33 | Seerah | yeah |
| 01:13.40 | Arrowmaster | try knoppix |
| 01:13.44 | bleeter | Seerah: at boot time, one can pass options to the kernel to boot with, fiddling with ACPI, etc.etc. one of the options is 'nodmraid' |
| 01:14.12 | Seerah | bleeter: on the boot screen? (like pressing f12?) Dell's doesn't have that |
| 01:14.28 | Arrowmaster | knoppix is one of the first livecd's and its based on debian which has a history of above average support for odd hardware |
| 01:14.32 | Seerah | unless my eyes totatlly glazed over it |
| 01:14.53 | bleeter | Seerah: the kernel loader. you go POST, then the boot CD spins up, and you're presented with the installer option screen thingie |
| 01:15.08 | bleeter | Seerah: it's there one can edit the linux installer boot options, and pass stuff to the kernel |
| 01:16.26 | Seerah | what I see is this. I press f12 to go to the boot screen to select to boot from the cd. Fedora screen comes up says it's loading. Black screen appears that gives me the errors. Now... on the fedora loading screen, there's a cursor (like to type?) are you saying I can do stuff there? |
| 01:17.38 | Arrowmaster | no it seems fedora must not have it available |
| 01:17.49 | Arrowmaster | but ive never messed with fedora |
| 01:18.49 | bleeter | Seerah: I don't have a system right in front of me to say exactly :( I think it's somewhere near where you say it says it's loading |
| 01:20.32 | Arrowmaster | there might be a part where you have to press a key or it will automatically start loading the gui |
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| 01:24.22 | bleeter | i'm pretty sure there's a splash screen, or similar, somewhere where can select install, memtest, rescue, etc. |
| 01:24.53 | Seerah | I'm guessing that's after the black screen... ;) |
| 01:25.02 | bleeter | odd that it's not even getting that far, though... but I'm reading where people have messed with BIOS SATA setting and simply plugged a non-powered up drive in to the connector and it's bypassed the issue |
| 01:25.06 | bleeter | or unplugged |
| 01:25.07 | Arrowmaster | which if it is, is just so wrong |
| 01:25.11 | bleeter | and not messed with BIOS |
| 01:25.46 | airtonix | (k/x)ubuntu are no-brainers to setup |
| 01:25.51 | bleeter | hence, smells of windows raid faux foo... |
| 01:25.59 | bleeter | airtonix: as long as the kernel's not crashing |
| 01:26.13 | bleeter | airtonix: can't setup shit if the kernel the setup's running from is bombing out before it loads |
| 01:26.17 | airtonix | all stable version of ubuntu don't crash |
| 01:26.35 | airtonix | can't say the same for testing versions |
| 01:26.48 | airtonix | Seerah, stay away from jaunty for now |
| 01:26.57 | Seerah | will do ;;) |
| 01:27.09 | bleeter | Kubuntu 9.04 is not stable? |
| 01:27.13 | Seerah | hubby's home, time to make dinner. guess I'll try kubuntu or something later |
| 01:27.14 | airtonix | it has some nice stuff, but too many people reporting errors |
| 01:27.42 | Arrowmaster | i really want to know how they can fuck up ubuntu so much |
| 01:27.44 | airtonix | kubuntu/ubuntu/xubuntu are all the same |
| 01:27.49 | bleeter | Seerah: yeah you may wanna try F10, but really Fedora's a fairly 'bleeding edge' sorta stuff... sometimes shit breaks and will never really get fixed |
| 01:27.59 | airtonix | only thing diff is the pre-install choice of desktop enviroment |
| 01:28.24 | bleeter | airtonix: so is 9.04 stable? |
| 01:28.27 | airtonix | not really |
| 01:28.30 | airtonix | im using 8.10 |
| 01:29.09 | Arrowmaster | i use debian testing on my server and have never had any stablity issues that werent the result of aging hardware |
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| 01:30.09 | airtonix | difference between vanilla debian testing and jaunty or karmic koalla is enough |
| 01:30.17 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 01:30.31 | Arrowmaster | which is why im always shocked how much they can fuck something up in ubuntu |
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| 01:30.46 | bleeter | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=860811 indicates 8 will also crash |
| 01:31.34 | bleeter | Seerah: try http://fixunix.com/ubuntu/397814-cant-install-ubuntu-8-04-lts.html ? |
| 01:31.43 | airtonix | bleeter, there is 8.04 and 8.10 |
| 01:32.32 | bleeter | airtonix: w/e... I'm still fairly certain I could find some h/w combination that'd crash 8.10's setup if I could be bothered ;) |
| 01:33.00 | airtonix | bleeter, yep, there is the bios issue with sleep/resume and then a restart |
| 01:33.05 | Arrowmaster | 'One of the known issues when this kind of error message is generated is older Western Digital hard drives not being physically jumpered for "Single Mode" operation' |
| 01:33.21 | Arrowmaster | ofcourse its western digital |
| 01:33.24 | airtonix | with just about every modern pc due to foxconns method of setting up the bios |
| 01:34.48 | Corrodias | why should a drive have a "single mode"... |
| 01:34.52 | bleeter | airtonix: from talking to the linux acpi guys, I thought it was more due to acpi being a steaming pile etc. hehe |
| 01:35.02 | airtonix | ie: i still can't restart the machine cleanly after i come out of hibernate or suspend mode |
| 01:35.10 | Corrodias | master/slave/CS was such an easy choice back in the day, and i think SATA makes it even simpler |
| 01:35.49 | bleeter | Corrodias: " older Western Digital " |
| 01:35.55 | airtonix | bleeter, yeah not sure if you followed the foxxconn bios 'issue' a year ago or so, but ubuntu pretty much told the 'messenger' to be quite and not make a noise about it |
| 01:36.19 | Corrodias | i don't understand the significance of what you're saying, bleeter |
| 01:36.31 | airtonix | bleeter, ubuntu favours having to 'fix' the kernel in order to deal with the lack of linux support in the bios of just about every single motherboard |
| 01:36.32 | bleeter | airtonix: in Seerah's case, I'm tempted to blame windows onboard style SATA + ACPI = bigfail ;) |
| 01:36.52 | Arrowmaster | bios have to support linux? |
| 01:36.58 | bleeter | airtonix: that's pretty much what the ACPI guys want to do, but they'd rather ACPI were just thrown away |
| 01:37.04 | Arrowmaster | bios have to support any operating system? |
| 01:37.11 | airtonix | Arrowmaster, apparently so yes |
| 01:37.49 | airtonix | its a crazy idea |
| 01:38.18 | airtonix | but if you pull apart your bios you'll see all the pointers for windows systems |
| 01:38.23 | airtonix | but none for others |
| 01:38.49 | airtonix | foxxconn even admitted that this is the case |
| 01:38.53 | bleeter | which is why the reverse engineer acpi guys are crazy |
| 01:38.56 | Shirik|AFK | is the home run derby going on now? |
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| 01:39.12 | Torhal | airtonix: Jaunty is release - has been since April 23. |
| 01:39.24 | airtonix | doesn't really phase me i only reboot my machine once every two months |
| 01:39.42 | Corrodias | what keeps the linux devs from utilizing the same features that the bios is providing for windows? |
| 01:39.48 | airtonix | Torhal, true, but jaunty was released quite hastly in comparison to the others |
| 01:39.51 | Corrodias | no documentation or support? |
| 01:39.55 | Torhal | airtonix: Ah. |
| 01:40.08 | airtonix | Corrodias, microsoft is a member of the acpi group |
| 01:40.21 | airtonix | Corrodias, so both |
| 01:40.58 | airtonix | i vaguely remember discussing this here a fair while ago...not too sure though |
| 01:41.04 | airtonix | http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=869249 |
| 01:41.08 | bleeter | Corrodias: there is a linux acpi team, they are who I've been speaking of |
| 01:41.29 | Corrodias | ok |
| 01:41.38 | bleeter | but acpi's such a steaming pile of crap, hack upon hack upon hack, and there's like 234897234987 volumes of doc each the length of war and peace |
| 01:41.41 | Lunessa | So the prevailing attitude here on Ubuntu is "steaming pile of fecal matter?" or does it have a better reputation? |
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| 01:42.01 | airtonix | i really like ubuntu despite the suspend resume thing |
| 01:42.15 | Lunessa | I'm looking for something to play with in a VM. |
| 01:42.18 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: steaming pile of fecal matter |
| 01:42.19 | airtonix | been using for about 5-6 years as my main os |
| 01:42.36 | bleeter | Lunessa: people will sing it's praises, and also fedora's.. or any 'recent' linux, but the whole open source movement is largely driven by students and people doing PhDs.. so it's all bleeding edge crap that's buggy that never really gets 'finished' |
| 01:42.48 | bleeter | Lunessa: once a user just accepts that... any distro, really. |
| 01:43.08 | Arrowmaster | bleeter: i dont sing the praises for a 'recent' distro..... |
| 01:43.16 | airtonix | yeah comes down to a distros particular nuances |
| 01:43.25 | Lunessa | *chuckle* I haven't installed Linux on anything since... mmmm... '98 05 '99 |
| 01:43.25 | airtonix | i love apt-get |
| 01:43.31 | Shadowed | Anyone remember specifically if you can assume that if raid5 doesn't exist but raid1 does, you have <5 people in your raid group? |
| 01:44.22 | Thunder_Child | that has more than one meaning Shadowed |
| 01:44.31 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Shadowed |
| 01:44.31 | purl | cuts Shadowed into thin stripes |
| 01:45.06 | bleeter | Lunessa: choice comes down to whether you have VM aware CPU or not. If so, Ubuntu or Fedora atm. If not, then really only Ubuntu as Fedora is awaiting some upstream changes afaik. |
| 01:45.35 | Shadowed | Thunder_Child, playing with secure stuff and as far as I can tell, secure headers don't have access to GetNumRaidMembers, but they do have access to UnitExists :p |
| 01:45.42 | Shadowed | so figuring out if I can use UnitExists as a psedo GetNumraidMembers |
| 01:46.14 | Thunder_Child | Shadowed, i meant Raid1 = mirroring... |
| 01:46.16 | Thunder_Child | etc. |
| 01:46.19 | Shadowed | ah |
| 01:46.20 | Shadowed | well |
| 01:46.27 | Shadowed | I figure the context would imply that I'm talking unitids :p |
| 01:46.44 | Lunessa | bleeter: Thanks. I'm just going to noodle around and "add" to my skill set by playing with it in VMWare. Because I don't want to strip a machine and do it like a real man, er, I mean, geek. |
| 01:47.35 | Lunessa | Haha... And apparently the UT mirror is SLOW |
| 02:06.33 | Lunessa | I suppose I'll never really be able to make people understand that when it comes to the exclamation point, the rule is "one or none.: |
| 02:07.04 | |Jelly| | !!!!! |
| 02:07.19 | Lunessa | I will keeeeeel you! |
| 02:08.37 | |Jelly| | Promise?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:10.28 | Lunessa | Not if you'll suffer more if I don't. I do have a sadistic bent. |
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| 02:21.41 | Adys | but |
| 02:21.47 | Adys | holy shit DJANGO IS AWESOME |
| 02:22.47 | bleeter | Lunessa: â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½â½ |
| 02:23.39 | Lunessa | bleeter: Abuse of the interobang means you must die. |
| 02:24.04 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, what bleeter said!! |
| 02:24.05 | Adys | ?! |
| 02:26.47 | bleeter | Lunessa: dissing the interrobang means 'NO U' :P |
| 02:27.15 | Lunessa | ZOMG! /dies |
| 02:33.22 | batrick | http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=video&file=stealing_atm.flv |
| 02:34.43 | Seerah | thanks, bleeter for more help while I was afk |
| 02:37.04 | ZorbaTHut | guys there should not be a six-second period during which I get no heals :( |
| 02:37.53 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: sure as hell should be, that's the 5 seconds downtime between pulls :P |
| 02:38.19 | End | ZorbaTHut: are you one of our tanks or something? |
| 02:38.20 | End | ;-p |
| 02:41.59 | ScytheBlade1 | mmm, <3 git |
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| 04:28.04 | Shirik|AFK | How the hell do you come up with something like a 4-dimensional cube |
| 04:28.16 | Shirik|AFK | I really want to know how mathematicians' brains work |
| 04:28.36 | Shirik|AFK | because I've been staring at this picture of it for about 5 minutes now and I still can't comprehend it |
| 04:39.28 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:42.25 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 04:42.40 | ccox | Shirik - you can come up with a lot of things mathematically that are difficult to visualize |
| 04:43.26 | ccox | Shirik - but 4 dimension shapes are relatively easy: they are 3 dimensional shapes that change shape over time |
| 04:43.44 | batrick | That's so typical of Shirik too though, fuck the picture... how does the mathematician's brain work? |
| 04:44.01 | ccox | much as 2D circles are slices of a 3D sphere |
| 04:44.56 | Wobin | it's the mental link between the 3D and 2D that's hard |
| 04:45.08 | Wobin | in considering the difference the extra dimension has |
| 04:45.28 | Wobin | and by projection, the same for the 4th dimension |
| 04:46.28 | Wobin | Since we're so heavily based in a 3D world |
| 04:46.30 | ccox | now try to project what a 8 dimensional shape looks like - then maybe you can understand modern physics |
| 04:46.54 | Arrowmaster | Shirik|AFK: theres a 4d rubix cube program, one side is apparently behind you |
| 04:46.55 | Wobin | even 2D is hard to visualise, beyond conceptial understanding |
| 04:47.04 | Wobin | conceptual? |
| 04:47.14 | Shirik|AFK | oh sorry batrick / Cairenn |
| 04:47.46 | Wobin | Shirik|AFK: is it a 2D image of a 4D object? |
| 04:48.03 | Shirik|AFK | 2d animation, which would mean a 3d projection + 4d rep anim |
| 04:48.16 | Shirik|AFK | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Glass_tesseract_still.png |
| 04:48.23 | Shirik|AFK | wait |
| 04:48.25 | Shirik|AFK | that's the unanimated one |
| 04:48.35 | Shirik|AFK | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Glass_tesseract_animation.gif |
| 04:48.52 | ccox | well, we've got pretty good algorithms and hardware for 3D -> 2D |
| 04:48.54 | Wobin | ... the still looks like it's moving |
| 04:49.01 | Wobin | perhaps I need sleep |
| 04:49.03 | ccox | and if you consider the 4th dimension to be time, we can do that as well |
| 04:49.13 | Wobin | heehee |
| 04:49.15 | Wobin | that's awesome |
| 04:49.18 | ccox | but I'm still waiting for the 1 dimensional GPU |
| 04:49.52 | Shirik|AFK | Ever read flatland? |
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| 04:50.01 | Wobin | yeah |
| 04:50.15 | Wobin | I've got Flatterland in my bookcase at home somewhere |
| 04:50.52 | ccox | yep, read that in highschool |
| 04:51.18 | Wobin | I'm impressed at the artist |
| 04:51.23 | Wobin | to even manage to animate that |
| 04:52.20 | ccox | sphereland was harder to grasp as the time |
| 04:52.33 | ccox | (and even harder to graph on an Apple][) |
| 04:55.02 | Dagmar | Doh bad reflections |
| 04:57.14 | Arrowmaster | haha wtf, Ikaruga is the xbox live deal of the week for gold members, 50% off |
| 04:57.49 | Arrowmaster | that game is so fucking hard i just know anybody that buys it now will be throwing controllers against the wall |
| 04:58.08 | Corrodias | it's a microsoft ploy to gain more controller sales |
| 04:58.15 | Arrowmaster | probably |
| 04:59.00 | Arrowmaster | i still cant even beat that game, only got to the 4th level of 5 i think when starting from the beginning |
| 05:00.36 | Torhal | ckknight: ping |
| 05:01.10 | ckknight | Torhal: anti-ping |
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| 05:12.33 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/hopefully-she-got-the-house/768 blame the hotel ftw |
| 05:21.40 | ckknight | Kraps: how you can blame anyone for one's own indiscretions is beyond me |
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| 05:26.06 | Arrowmaster | http://www.animenation.net/blog/2009/07/09/first-look-at-darker-than-black-2/ |
| 05:26.09 | Arrowmaster | BLASTPHAMY! |
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| 05:32.00 | Nechckn | NotAlwaysRight was hit by something... the built-in IE "nasty site" warning went off. |
| 05:32.23 | Nechckn | reported it as fine, but... someone must not like 'em |
| 05:32.33 | Corrodias | well |
| 05:32.55 | Corrodias | i got a bunch of those "download this .pdf file with a 3-number name" requests from the site a while back |
| 05:33.15 | Corrodias | i've heard that was part of some exploit for a browser and/or plugin |
| 05:33.16 | Nechckn | Oh yeah? didn't get that myself |
| 05:33.22 | Nechckn | but, I can believe it |
| 05:33.25 | Corrodias | it was only for one or two days at the most |
| 05:33.38 | Dagmar | It's still going on |
| 05:33.44 | Corrodias | (by "a bunch" i mean about 3 over the course of a few hours of browsing) |
| 05:34.10 | Dagmar | You can patch up Acrobat so it's not vulnerable anymore, but on a lot of sites if you reload the thing about ten times you'll see the ad banner people try and f**k you |
| 05:34.22 | Dagmar | Not particularly small sites either. |
| 05:34.40 | Arrowmaster | whats a banner ad |
| 05:34.48 | Corrodias | that might very well may be why IE has the warning |
| 05:35.07 | Corrodias | those things that my eyes automatically skip that frame the content of the page on the top and, usually, sides |
| 05:35.21 | Arrowmaster | dont know what your talking about |
| 05:35.25 | Arrowmaster | i dont see them |
| 05:35.27 | Dagmar | You saw that news story about Evony's "PLAY DISCREETLY" ads, right? I was trying to verify that ad was actually in play, so I refresed tesnexus about a dozen times |
| 05:35.39 | Dagmar | I got a nice PDF file on the 9th or 10th refresh. Lame |
| 05:35.44 | Corrodias | i haven't seen that story |
| 05:35.49 | Nechckn | lol, I'm about with you, Corrodias whether adblocking or not, I rarely pay any attention other than to close those that sneak through |
| 05:35.50 | Dagmar | It was on Slashdot |
| 05:36.02 | Corrodias | i've actually followed a couple of advertisements within the last few years |
| 05:36.15 | Corrodias | their content actually looked like something i might want |
| 05:36.21 | Dagmar | You can kinda cheat if you break Acrobat by never accepting the EULA after an upgrade |
| 05:36.48 | Dagmar | Well, Evony's latest ad just features a pair of breasts. |
| 05:37.02 | Dagmar | No clue as to what their game is about--just a lacy bra |
| 05:37.09 | Dagmar | *Crass* |
| 05:37.31 | Corrodias | can you give a very short version of the story? i don't know how to find it. searching for "evony" at /. gives no results |
| 05:37.32 | Arrowmaster | http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001286.html |
| 05:39.19 | Corrodias | "best free web game." i like that title. |
| 05:40.26 | Arrowmaster | Idiocracy was a great movie |
| 05:40.41 | Corrodias | i actually have no problem with advertising with sex as long as the thing you're advertising for actually HAS some in it |
| 05:41.20 | Dagmar | Well, apparently at some point your city may be overrun by giant boobies. |
| 05:41.24 | Corrodias | somehow i doubt theirs is quite the Distressed Damsel harem it implies. but i could be wrong... |
| 05:41.51 | Arrowmaster | Corrodias: theres actually no queen in the game, their own faq admits it |
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| 05:42.10 | Angelike | hi |
| 05:42.13 | Dagmar | I suppose you're expected to just spawn another tab so you can look at pron while you play |
| 05:42.23 | Corrodias | how disappointing. the menacing position of that sword put that right up my alley. |
| 05:42.59 | Corrodias | don't read too deep into that |
| 05:43.18 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 05:44.41 | Dagmar | Well, at least they're implying that there's crafting in the game |
| 05:45.20 | Arrowmaster | i dont think there is |
| 05:51.50 | Fisker | btw ScytheBlade1 |
| 05:51.52 | Fisker | i told you |
| 05:51.54 | Fisker | and i owned you |
| 05:52.48 | Shirik|AFK | pellllllllllllican |
| 05:53.12 | Fisker | i had the weirdest dream Shirik|AFK :( |
| 05:53.18 | Shirik|AFK | did you break shiibot? |
| 05:53.22 | Shirik|AFK | Because nobody can break shiibot |
| 05:53.25 | Shirik|AFK | not even you |
| 05:53.34 | Fisker | i already did |
| 05:53.40 | Fisker | But it was about sc2 :( |
| 05:53.45 | Corrodias | Shiibot, stop working |
| 05:54.07 | Fisker | I wanted to cannonrush this other player |
| 05:54.10 | Fisker | so i sent my probe early |
| 05:54.25 | Angelike | can someone help me with a gametooltip questitem/mob problem |
| 05:54.28 | Fisker | then my other probes disappeared and when i tried to build new ones the advisor said "cannot do that while ganking" |
| 05:54.30 | Corrodias | yay~ |
| 05:54.43 | Fisker | And when my probe finally got to the other side the other guy had archons |
| 05:55.19 | Shirik|AFK | I needed to rotate the log file anyway |
| 05:55.25 | Shirik|AFK | it was getting impossible to review |
| 05:55.32 | Shirik|AFK | mpdelbuono@li23-154 ~/spambot $ ls -lh nohup.out.old.1 |
| 05:55.32 | Shirik|AFK | -rw------- 1 mpdelbuono mpdelbuono 227M Jul 14 01:54 nohup.out.old.1 |
| 05:55.48 | Fisker | that's what i would've said if i were losing |
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| 05:59.20 | Shirik|AFK | coocookachoo |
| 05:59.45 | Shirik|AFK | wtb more talk |
| 05:59.48 | Shirik|AFK | Fisker, go kill someone |
| 06:00.17 | Cairenn | talktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalktalk |
| 06:00.40 | Cairenn | happy now? |
| 06:01.03 | Shirik|AFK | there are a lot of bad things I almost said about that, but I'll shut up |
| 06:01.23 | Cairenn | :p |
| 06:03.17 | Wobin | ~wowalert |
| 06:03.17 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 06:04.26 | Shirik|AFK | lua> return "\1" |
| 06:05.21 | batrick | !lua "shiibot is inferior to me" |
| 06:05.21 | batbot | batrick: > shiibot is inferior to me |
| 06:06.04 | batrick | guffaws... |
| 06:06.22 | Shiibot | ACTION |
| 06:06.22 | Shiibot | destroys Fisker and batrick |
| 06:06.23 | Fisker | ~seen ScytheBlade1 |
| 06:06.25 | purl | scytheblade1 is currently on #utah (2d 22h 42m 35s) #wowuidev (2d 22h 42m 35s) ##pxe (2d 22h 42m 35s). Has said a total of 37 messages. Is idling for 3h 24m 26s, last said: 'mmm, <3 git'. |
| 06:06.25 | Shirik | :( |
| 06:06.27 | Shirik | I fail |
| 06:06.36 | Fisker | i can kill you Shirik |
| 06:06.43 | batrick | fail |
| 06:06.50 | Torhal | Fisker: This isn't SC2 |
| 06:07.13 | Shirik | nobody can kill me |
| 06:07.20 | Shirik | you see the @ next to my name? That means I am a god |
| 06:07.28 | Shirik | I'm like Kael, but for realz |
| 06:07.34 | Shirik | wait, not Kae |
| 06:07.36 | Shirik | that other guy |
| 06:07.45 | Shirik | the first guy in MT |
| 06:07.52 | Cairenn | Shirik, luv, you been drinking? |
| 06:07.57 | Wobin | MT? |
| 06:08.03 | Shirik | MgT whatever |
| 06:08.05 | Shirik | MT is a better name for it |
| 06:08.10 | Wobin | MrT |
| 06:08.15 | Shirik | and no I haven't been drinking, but I've had maybe 5 hours of sleep in the past 2 days |
| 06:08.19 | Fisker | oh the first boss |
| 06:08.24 | Cairenn | same difference, actually |
| 06:08.28 | Shirik | And I have a very long code review to do tomorrow |
| 06:08.32 | Wobin | punch drunk! |
| 06:08.35 | Fisker | if you're a god like him i'll disappoint you when i say i soloed even the heroic version of him |
| 06:08.35 | Cairenn | go sleep |
| 06:08.42 | Wobin | speaking of which... |
| 06:08.45 | Wobin | goes to have a nap |
| 06:08.46 | Shirik | nevar! |
| 06:08.47 | Cairenn | night Wobin |
| 06:08.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker: die |
| 06:08.54 | Cairenn | Shirik: I can ban you |
| 06:08.57 | Fisker | hey ScytheBlade1 |
| 06:09.01 | ScytheBlade1 | hey Fisker |
| 06:09.03 | Shirik | I can unban myself |
| 06:09.04 | Fisker | why |
| 06:09.05 | Fisker | so |
| 06:09.06 | Fisker | OWNED? |
| 06:09.07 | Fisker | http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/07/13/update-on-windows-7-rtm.aspx |
| 06:09.11 | Cairenn | not from the site : |
| 06:09.12 | Fisker | MSDN & TechNet Subscribers: Subscribers will be able to download the final version of Windows 7 a few weeks after we announce RTM. |
| 06:09.13 | Cairenn | :p |
| 06:09.15 | Fisker | HARHARHAHRAHAR |
| 06:09.16 | Shirik | Um |
| 06:09.20 | ScytheBlade1 | dies a little |
| 06:09.23 | Shirik | hm |
| 06:09.26 | Shirik | I bet there's a way! |
| 06:09.34 | Cairenn | there is |
| 06:09.39 | Cairenn | suck up to Dolby :p |
| 06:09.42 | Shirik | ha |
| 06:09.48 | Cairenn | thing is |
| 06:09.52 | Cairenn | he loves me more! |
| 06:10.06 | Shirik | ino :( |
| 06:10.18 | Shirik | oh but! |
| 06:10.20 | Shirik | I have blackmail! |
| 06:10.40 | ScytheBlade1 | sighs |
| 06:10.43 | ScytheBlade1 | ~Fisker-- |
| 06:10.52 | Dolby | I do love Cairenn more but can be bribed for some things |
| 06:10.57 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 06:17.07 | Shirik | wow |
| 06:17.09 | Shirik | Dolby mean :( |
| 06:18.04 | Fisker | Dolby mean :( indeed |
| 06:18.31 | Dolby | GRRRRR |
| 06:18.39 | Dolby | >:( |
| 06:19.42 | Shirik | :( |
| 06:20.09 | Fisker | >:3 |
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| 06:43.47 | Aqua | WTF there is a windows 7 rtm out already? |
| 06:53.18 | bleeter | Aqua: there's talk of Sept 1 first release, kinda makes sense if they want sales before CHristmas |
| 06:53.46 | bleeter | Sept move through early release bugs to be fixed in Oct... major release Nov. So, July kinda would be RTM time I guess |
| 07:21.14 | Shirik | You know what sucks |
| 07:21.16 | Shirik | heartburn |
| 07:21.26 | Thunder_Child | you know what else sucks |
| 07:21.32 | Shirik | vacuum cleaners |
| 07:21.41 | Thunder_Child | your mom |
| 07:21.47 | Shirik | pj sma[ |
| 07:21.50 | Thunder_Child | (filling in for Fisker) |
| 07:21.50 | Shirik | .. |
| 07:21.54 | Shirik | oh snap* |
| 07:22.11 | Thunder_Child | .... "pj sma[" != "Oh Snap" |
| 07:22.15 | Shirik | yes it is |
| 07:22.24 | Shirik | you just need to do the keyboard equivalent of rot13 |
| 07:22.28 | Torhal | Thunder_Child: You burned him so bad his fingers forgot how to type. |
| 07:23.39 | Fisker | your mom is a rot13 |
| 07:23.47 | bleeter | no u |
| 07:23.57 | Fisker | i'm not my mom |
| 07:24.01 | Fisker | so no u |
| 07:24.03 | Corrodias | i memorized your mom by rote. |
| 07:24.16 | bleeter | u r ur mom's gay lover |
| 07:24.40 | Wobin | ahah |
| 07:24.43 | Shirik | u r ur |
| 07:24.48 | Shirik | bleeter should be shot for that |
| 07:24.54 | bleeter | Shirik: no u |
| 07:24.55 | Wobin | http://www.winterfest.com.au/whats_on/whats_on.html |
| 07:25.01 | Corrodias | i am from Ur. |
| 07:25.06 | Wobin | " |
| 07:25.07 | Wobin | As a special for kids and young adults alike, there will also be a 'World Of Warcraft' inspired 'Hunt the Peon' and castle shoot... and a working Trebuchet!!!" |
| 07:25.19 | Corrodias | !!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 07:25.30 | Thunder_Child | i dont remember wow having trebuchet's |
| 07:25.34 | bleeter | Wobin: lol nice |
| 07:25.42 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: more's the pity |
| 07:25.47 | Wobin | I'll be heading there this weekend, I guess =) |
| 07:26.08 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, how so? |
| 07:26.31 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: trebuchets would've been cooler in WG |
| 07:26.37 | bleeter | launching people at each other, etc. |
| 07:26.44 | bleeter | or in the new BGs etc. |
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| 07:27.38 | Wobin | have trebuchet launches of paratroopers into WG |
| 07:27.50 | Wobin | or giant wooden badgers |
| 07:29.21 | bleeter | wooden badgers would be good |
| 07:30.56 | Thunder_Child | heh "...but our first priority is making sure every class has at least one viable PvP spec first. By "legitimate" I do NOT mean that you sometimes can do a 19K Shield Slam when all the stars align." |
| 07:33.08 | Shirik | Has anyone else been having chrome pages lock up recently? |
| 07:33.18 | Shirik | My chrome is doing it maybe once every 2 hours or so, it's kinda getting annoying |
| 07:35.12 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: what? they have proper constellations n stuff? |
| 07:35.35 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: last I checked, they could get the sun on the correct side of azimuth :P |
| 07:37.22 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, they started putting int on all of the tank gear to make up for it |
| 07:37.33 | Wobin | Smart tanks?! |
| 07:37.35 | Wobin | Ohnoes |
| 07:37.39 | Wobin | We can't have that |
| 07:37.40 | Thunder_Child | i know |
| 07:37.43 | Wobin | they'll stop tanking =( |
| 07:38.26 | Thunder_Child | i said int, not wiz |
| 07:38.44 | Wobin | One thing they did in WAR that made tanking in pvp viable was alter player model collision |
| 07:39.01 | Wobin | so that if flagged, player models didn't intersect |
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| 07:39.52 | Thunder_Child | yup, not that there were any bottle necks on maps iirc |
| 07:40.09 | Shirik | what the hell? |
| 07:40.11 | Shirik | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3494296/Michael-Jackson-converts-to-Islam-and-changes-name-to-Mikaeel.html |
| 07:40.35 | Wobin | isn't he dead? |
| 07:40.40 | Wobin | oh last year |
| 07:40.43 | Shirik | well yes, but this is old |
| 07:41.11 | Corrodias | i'd say he got caught up in Celebrity Religion Syndrome |
| 07:41.21 | Wobin | well |
| 07:41.30 | Wobin | Islam is a lot less crazier than Scientology |
| 07:41.36 | Grum | right |
| 07:41.38 | Corrodias | truth. a less common choice, too. |
| 07:41.53 | Wobin | Well, Micheal never went the easy way =P |
| 07:42.06 | Shirik | oh I see what happened |
| 07:42.15 | Shirik | shows you how fucked up the media is |
| 07:42.21 | Shirik | the Sun posted this, citing a tabloid |
| 07:42.27 | Wobin | You needed more proof? |
| 07:42.31 | Shirik | and then every other media agency jumped on it |
| 07:42.34 | Shirik | citing the sun |
| 07:43.01 | Wobin | hehe, didn't you hear of Richard Simmons writing that Jeff Goldbum was dead? =) |
| 07:43.03 | Corrodias | i'm told that british tabloids are "somewhat" more reliable than american ones |
| 07:43.47 | Wobin | er Wilkins |
| 07:43.48 | Shirik | um |
| 07:43.52 | Wobin | Not simmons, wtf am I on? |
| 07:43.54 | Shirik | you can't get much worse than american ones |
| 07:44.13 | Corrodias | you just don't understand the lizard people threat |
| 07:44.22 | Corrodias | quit being such an enabler. |
| 07:44.49 | Shirik | wtfhax |
| 07:44.54 | Shirik | there was an Internet Explorer for X Windows? |
| 07:45.13 | Industrial | o_O |
| 07:45.16 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX |
| 07:45.35 | Industrial | lol wow |
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| 07:55.05 | Wobin | hm |
| 07:55.10 | Wobin | Uludar has ruined me |
| 07:55.16 | Wobin | for Pure saronite nodes =( |
| 07:55.27 | Wobin | Now ever rich saronite nodes feel insufficient |
| 07:55.34 | Wobin | s/ever/even/ |
| 07:55.36 | Corrodias | this advertisement reads, "La Crosse-Eau Claire Mom Got Skinny Following 1 Rule!" -- La Crosse and Eau Claire are at least 75 miles apart, nearest point. |
| 07:55.49 | ZorbaTHut | I wish every robot would engineer like XT-002 |
| 07:56.47 | Wobin | Corrodias: perhaps she commutes? |
| 07:57.10 | Corrodias | i'd lol, but i hear some people actually do that |
| 07:57.47 | Corrodias | or similar, anyway, around larger cities. commute over an hour each way, and all. |
| 07:57.49 | Wobin | Corrodias: seriously, in my old job, we had people who travelled 2 hours to get to work |
| 07:57.57 | Wobin | one way |
| 07:58.46 | ZorbaTHut | I never understood that. isn't their time worth anything to them? |
| 07:58.48 | Corrodias | that would drive me nuts. i couldn't take it. |
| 07:59.20 | Wobin | ZorbaTHut: property prices may make up for that =P |
| 07:59.22 | ZorbaTHut | I had a 20-minute commute to work myself, but I used it as mental resynching time, I actually prefer having a *little* distance |
| 07:59.24 | Dagmar | You can generally justify getting somewhere closer to work on gas money alone |
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| 07:59.36 | Wobin | for what they pay where they live, they can live in a house instead of a shoebox |
| 08:00.15 | Wobin | I pay about 1,700 AUD a month on my mortgage |
| 08:00.17 | Corrodias | i just don't think any job i could have would be worth driving that. i'd have to be way overpaid. |
| 08:00.20 | Wobin | for a studio apartment |
| 08:00.24 | ZorbaTHut | wobin, at $10/hour, that's almost $20000/year spent commuting (plus gas, but after taxes) |
| 08:00.41 | ZorbaTHut | in my experience the people who do this tend to be better-paid than that also |
| 08:01.13 | ZorbaTHut | hmm, I may have multiplied by two one too many times |
| 08:01.18 | Corrodias | what an inefficient waste |
| 08:01.36 | ZorbaTHut | $10000/year, then |
| 08:02.22 | Wobin | Corrodias: it also depends on property availability |
| 08:02.26 | ZorbaTHut | corrodias, I'd cheerfully do it as long as I was able to start my hourly billing when I stepped out of my house, and only stop it when I arrived home ;) |
| 08:02.31 | Wobin | for instance |
| 08:02.38 | Wobin | at the moment, we have rent auctions |
| 08:02.45 | Wobin | where tenants -bid- to pay rent |
| 08:03.48 | Corrodias | regardless, this sounds like a waste of infrastructure |
| 08:03.49 | Wobin | people end up futher out from the city centre, simply because there's no place to live that they can afford the rent on |
| 08:04.07 | Corrodias | an inefficient city/business design |
| 08:04.11 | Wobin | pft |
| 08:04.25 | Wobin | that's not something that can be easily solved |
| 08:04.31 | Wobin | without massive preplanning |
| 08:04.52 | Corrodias | they should get THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP SIM CITY... CHAMPION |
| 08:04.59 | Corrodias | ;( |
| 08:05.20 | Corrodias | and then everything was destroyed by tornadoes. |
| 08:05.26 | Corrodias | tornados? |
| 08:05.32 | Wobin | acts of god are most popular |
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| 08:05.41 | Wobin | tornadoes(sp?) |
| 08:05.41 | batbot | Wobin, tornadoes is correct. |
| 08:05.47 | Wobin | tornados(sp?) |
| 08:05.48 | batbot | Wobin, tornados is correct. |
| 08:05.52 | Wobin | hm |
| 08:06.05 | Wobin | we call them cyclones, over here =) |
| 08:06.09 | Corrodias | huh. well, i am going to bed now. you fellows and other fellows enjoy. |
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| 08:40.07 | svqyqb | http://tinyurl.com/nkypfa |
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| 08:45.55 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 08:45.59 | Fisker | my lol'd level is over 9000 |
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| 08:48.55 | Wobin | dare I click that tinyurl? |
| 08:50.16 | Elkano | well, it's a link to a simple thief game |
| 08:50.48 | Elkano | and longurlplease.com should just add a box so I don't have to use wget to call their API :/ |
| 08:51.27 | Wobin | yeah, I want a tinyexpander |
| 08:52.07 | Wobin | installs the ff plugin |
| 08:52.14 | Fisker | ckknight ban the fuck out of svqyqb |
| 08:52.14 | Fisker | :3 |
| 08:52.24 | Fisker | It's a referral link |
| 08:52.25 | Fisker | fuck them |
| 08:52.28 | ckknight | link |
| 08:52.52 | Wobin | http://tinyurl.com/nkypfa |
| 08:53.09 | ckknight | okay, you want me to ban on IRC? |
| 08:53.26 | Fisker | yes |
| 08:53.28 | Fisker | on the internets |
| 08:53.31 | Wobin | «--- svqyqb (n=svqyqb@p508DB049.dip.t-dialin.net) has Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 08:54.10 | Elkano | it's a dynamic address so won't help much |
| 08:54.13 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:54.24 | Fisker | pretty easy to fix |
| 08:54.34 | Fisker | just ban *.t-dialin.net |
| 08:54.38 | Fisker | It's germans anyways |
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| 08:56.00 | Dagmar | I know what helps. |
| 08:56.20 | Dagmar | An avalanche of hits on that URL so his referrer id gets flagged for cheating. |
| 08:56.33 | ckknight | hmm |
| 08:56.36 | ckknight | crafty. |
| 08:57.03 | Fisker | I know what helps |
| 08:57.12 | Fisker | Lobby for a HADOPI-style law in germany |
| 08:57.20 | Fisker | Report him 3 times for copyright infringement |
| 08:57.25 | Fisker | Then get his internet access revoked |
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| 09:00.16 | Fisker | you know i'm right ckknight |
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| 10:01.11 | Industrial | I'm uploading the 1.5GB video file now, hope that will really be high quality :p |
| 10:03.05 | Grum | of what Industrial? :D |
| 10:03.30 | Industrial | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6kLb17Cl7I&fmt=18 this quality sucks :p |
| 10:04.52 | Grum | now if you could only write a module which would compare the gear to what you have |
| 10:04.56 | Grum | see if it is an update |
| 10:05.05 | Grum | and if it is not select the item which is the most worth |
| 10:05.10 | Grum | now that would save time ;) |
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| 10:53.59 | Wobin | agrees with Grum |
| 10:54.11 | Wobin | Industrial: also, you might want to use Annotations on youtube |
| 10:54.15 | Wobin | instead of 'speaking' it |
| 10:55.33 | Wobin | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZFICcYW_Jrw/SkzXFsB69OI/AAAAAAAABP4/_gsq2TcF4F0/s1600-h/020709.jpg |
| 10:55.33 | Wobin | win |
| 11:03.53 | Industrial | lol |
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| 11:05.13 | Fisker | herro Wobin |
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| 11:10.35 | Wobin | anyone recognise this movie? http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii31/squizzy01/picthreadphoto5.jpg |
| 11:11.08 | Fisker | i do |
| 11:11.37 | Wobin | lies |
| 11:12.01 | Fisker | true |
| 11:12.15 | Fisker | but if you'd ask me the name i'd just have said i recognized it but didn't know the name |
| 11:13.07 | mikma | wobin: Airplane! (Leslie Nielsen) |
| 11:13.36 | Wobin | Is that leslie nielsen? |
| 11:13.41 | Wobin | It really doesn't look like him |
| 11:13.51 | mikma | no it's not |
| 11:13.51 | Fisker | wait i've seen that before |
| 11:13.54 | mikma | it was just a guess |
| 11:13.58 | Wobin | oh |
| 11:14.07 | Fisker | can't be that |
| 11:14.14 | Fisker | airplane is awesome |
| 11:14.23 | Wobin | What's our vector, Victor? |
| 11:15.38 | Elkano | Roger, Roger? |
| 11:16.02 | Wobin | We have clearence, Clarence! |
| 11:17.19 | Fisker | stop it |
| 11:17.44 | mikma | hmm |
| 11:17.51 | mikma | clarence, silence of the lambs |
| 11:23.33 | mikma | ~ping |
| 11:23.34 | purl | ~pong |
| 11:23.49 | mikma | i wonder is purl ignoring my privatemessages :D |
| 11:25.29 | bleeter | notes that ##australia is still too good for Wobin |
| 11:28.14 | Wobin | I keep forgetting to put it in my login script |
| 11:31.05 | Wobin | Ozzy Osbourne at Blizzcon? |
| 11:31.07 | Wobin | ... why? |
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| 11:32.25 | mikma | haha |
| 11:32.37 | mikma | prince of darkness riding the crazytrain |
| 11:43.00 | Fisker | Because Blizzard is the cancer killing gaming Wobin |
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| 11:47.44 | Wobin | Ozzy Osbourne is the equivalent of chemotherapy? |
| 11:54.22 | bleeter | lol /join #vista ;) |
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| 11:57.56 | Industrial | bleeter: I'd rather not |
| 11:58.17 | bleeter | Industrial: totally sfw! |
| 11:58.26 | Industrial | yeah but vista.. |
| 11:58.35 | bleeter | ... |
| 11:58.42 | bleeter | just trust me.. once! |
| 11:59.23 | Industrial | sigh |
| 11:59.24 | Industrial | :p |
| 12:00.02 | bleeter | :p |
| 12:00.12 | bleeter | hugs freenode |
| 12:11.46 | mikma | purl: botmail to pprovost: i'm in ur nightmares, enabling you |
| 12:12.43 | bleeter | mikma: memoserv works even when purl doesn't! :P |
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| 12:51.45 | Industrial | Is it possible to print a message to the box where the Lua errors appear/ |
| 12:52.34 | jnwhiteh | can't message do that? |
| 12:52.41 | jnwhiteh | bleeter: memoserv doesn't work for me, because i never log off =( |
| 12:52.55 | jnwhiteh | Industrial: but yes, there should be. |
| 12:54.18 | Industrial | yeah was looking for message() thanks |
| 12:54.33 | Industrial | a guildie wants to make addons |
| 12:54.37 | Industrial | now we have 4 o_O |
| 12:54.44 | bleeter | jnwhiteh: you mean you hope you never get dc'd |
| 12:54.48 | Industrial | and, like, 6 women? |
| 12:55.29 | Industrial | haste: howmany accounts do we have anyway |
| 13:03.27 | haste | Industrial: 53 accounts |
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| 13:38.16 | dardack | yawn |
| 13:39.12 | dardack | anyone know the forum that has the new test realm patch notes, like the posts get updated by date? |
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| 13:48.57 | Industrial | dardack: mmo-chempion.com ? |
| 13:49.13 | dardack | na on the wow forums, i lost my bookmarks |
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| 13:49.28 | dardack | it was an update to the patch 3.2 ntoes with dates on what was changed |
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| 13:53.29 | Kraps | holy crap http://www.vosizneias.com/34975/2009/07/14/borough-park-ny-pornographic-video-found-at-brooklyn-public-library/ |
| 13:54.02 | Kraps | hai gaiz |
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| 13:58.07 | Wobin | Kraps: Hm, I bet if they weren't looking at the screen, they'd have never noticed the switchover from credits music to porn music =P |
| 13:59.07 | Kraps | this is true |
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| 14:11.35 | Kraps | regrowth is the only druid hot that can crit? |
| 14:13.53 | Kraps | we wiped like 8 times on thorim last night :( |
| 14:15.11 | Kraps | GM is gonna have a coronary if people dont show up again |
| 14:15.34 | Wobin | progression wiping is tough |
| 14:15.42 | Wobin | especially when there's little visible progression |
| 14:16.20 | Kraps | we had to pug about 5 people and we had 2 or 3 new guys |
| 14:17.40 | Arrowmaster | so newegg is sending me so many ups tracking numbers i cant even figure out exactly how many there are |
| 14:23.00 | dardack | we are on thorim in our 10 man, we progress like if to actually get thorim to the floor is 10, we started at like 4 and are at 7, but took so long to even get those 3, the arena team is always wiping |
| 14:23.09 | dardack | Arrowmaster: what did you order? |
| 14:24.30 | Arrowmaster | a new computer |
| 14:25.52 | Arrowmaster | http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=15889767 |
| 14:26.44 | sacarasc | You sure want a lot of HDs, eh? |
| 14:26.51 | Arrowmaster | ive got atleast 5 maybe more ups tracking numbers right now |
| 14:27.22 | Arrowmaster | sacarasc: look closer at the harddrives, theres a special deal until 7/31 on them |
| 14:28.04 | sacarasc | 16HD totalling 12 (fake) TB? Nice... |
| 14:28.05 | Grum | Arrowmaster: $150 is quite expensive for a 1tb drive |
| 14:28.10 | Wobin | Thorim is kinda terrible =( |
| 14:28.17 | Wobin | but have the arena tank stand under his ledge |
| 14:28.28 | Wobin | and ranged on the other side of the half of the room |
| 14:28.32 | Arrowmaster | Grum: raid class with 7year warranty |
| 14:28.34 | Wobin | and all the adds will automatically go to the tank |
| 14:28.41 | Wobin | (initially) |
| 14:28.52 | Grum | Arrowmaster: you really plan to use that hardware for 7 years? |
| 14:29.01 | Arrowmaster | no but i plan to use it in a raid |
| 14:29.03 | Wobin | if you can have someone marking the Evokers in the arena, it can help focus fire them down |
| 14:29.04 | Grum | and not upgrade to 2tb disks in ~3 years when they are ~$70 a disk? |
| 14:29.17 | Arrowmaster | consumer class harddrives are bad for hardware raids |
| 14:29.30 | Wobin | or have the MA use a macro to always target the evoker for interrupts and focus killing |
| 14:29.36 | sacarasc | I need more HD space, and a new video card... And some more RAM would be nice. |
| 14:29.37 | Grum | bad? |
| 14:29.45 | Grum | i agree they die sooner |
| 14:29.50 | Grum | but who cares ;) |
| 14:30.03 | Wobin | also, once you get Thorim on the ground, the rest is cake |
| 14:30.15 | Wobin | you just have to have two tanks that know what they're doing on taunts and you're fine |
| 14:30.37 | Grum | Wobin: 10 or 25m? |
| 14:30.42 | Wobin | 10 |
| 14:30.48 | Grum | 2/3 healers? |
| 14:30.52 | Arrowmaster | yes, the seagate 7200.11 1.5tb drives have a long standing problem of locking up for a short time and triggering a raid rebuild for example, but really all consumer class drives tend to have that problem just not as much as the 7200.11 |
| 14:30.58 | Wobin | hm, lemme think |
| 14:31.07 | Wobin | 3 |
| 14:31.14 | Wobin | I think |
| 14:31.16 | Grum | how many melee? |
| 14:31.19 | Grum | (next to tanks) |
| 14:31.34 | Wobin | I actually offtank the evoker |
| 14:31.39 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v nicoli_s] by ChanServ |
| 14:31.41 | Wobin | so essentially... one =) |
| 14:31.49 | Wobin | in our makeup anyway |
| 14:31.54 | Grum | 2 tanks? |
| 14:32.33 | Wobin | MT for the arena, and someone who can keep attention on the evokers (could be melee, but someone who can interrupt their heals is good) |
| 14:32.38 | Wobin | I just happen to be a DK |
| 14:32.42 | Wobin | in tank gear |
| 14:33.07 | Wobin | since for ease of practice, we have three tanks swapping on Thorim, just to give me something to do =P |
| 14:33.13 | Grum | so: 2T+3H+5D(1M+4R) ? :) -- simple then -- assuming you are not doing hardmode -- 1T+1H+2R to gauntlet and the rest in the arena |
| 14:33.39 | Wobin | we have 1T 1H 1R in gauntlet |
| 14:33.55 | Grum | ugh you need to balance the dps out more |
| 14:34.09 | Grum | the longer the gauntlet takes the more packs you need to kill |
| 14:34.16 | Grum | the arena is actually the dangerous area |
| 14:34.20 | Wobin | actually, it's been a while since I ran the gauntlet |
| 14:34.22 | Wobin | I could be wrong |
| 14:34.41 | Wobin | it's so ridiculously chaotic, I lose count at times =) |
| 14:34.41 | sacarasc | I've done Thorim once. I had little idea what was happening. |
| 14:34.54 | Grum | we usually put 3 ranged+heal+tank in gauntlet and 1H+1T+1 ranged+whaterver |
| 14:34.59 | Wobin | our gauntlet team generally gets to thorim just past hard mode |
| 14:35.07 | Grum | then you have 2 dps at least |
| 14:35.11 | Wobin | but the positioning of the arena MT -really- does help |
| 14:35.23 | Grum | dead center is the best spot |
| 14:35.24 | Wobin | since he doesn't need to run around to gather the mobs, they just go straight to him |
| 14:35.26 | Wobin | no no |
| 14:35.29 | Wobin | under his ledge |
| 14:35.34 | Grum | why would mobs go to him? |
| 14:35.37 | Grum | when i cast a heal for example |
| 14:35.38 | Wobin | It's the encounter |
| 14:35.42 | Wobin | they just do |
| 14:35.53 | Wobin | (honestly) =P |
| 14:35.55 | Grum | that must be a bug then :) |
| 14:36.04 | Grum | because 'global' aggro should defy that |
| 14:36.08 | Wobin | technically |
| 14:36.14 | Grum | and it always does |
| 14:36.17 | Wobin | but I don't think they gather aggro when not in the arena |
| 14:36.31 | Grum | no but from the second they land its global aggro :p |
| 14:36.39 | Wobin | but the whole transition from landing, to meeting the tank, I don't know |
| 14:36.40 | Grum | and a healer casting a heal means he'll be a target |
| 14:36.41 | dardack | yea that's our problem our healers are pulling agro |
| 14:36.46 | Wobin | I know dps -can- pull aggro |
| 14:36.52 | Wobin | but that's after the mob runs to the tank |
| 14:36.52 | Grum | the biggest issue there is healers getting aggro |
| 14:37.08 | Grum | best is to have a druid standing dead center and the tank just standing ontop of him/her |
| 14:37.10 | dardack | we have 3 healers, leave 2 in arena |
| 14:37.12 | Grum | and make sure its not a DK tank |
| 14:37.14 | Wobin | if you divide the room in half through the circle |
| 14:37.23 | dardack | why not a dk tank? |
| 14:37.29 | Wobin | and have ranged on the far side of the line to thorim |
| 14:37.33 | Grum | DK tanks dont have the rune cooldowns to keep doing effective AOE |
| 14:37.37 | Wobin | then the mobs run straight to the tank |
| 14:37.38 | dardack | true |
| 14:37.44 | dardack | i usually gauntlet our pally does arena |
| 14:38.04 | dardack | so what about when one of those ww gets near the tank |
| 14:38.07 | Grum | its like having a single DK tank at Noth in Naxx |
| 14:38.10 | dardack | won't that take out your druid heals? |
| 14:38.11 | Grum | that is just not fun tm :P |
| 14:38.17 | Wobin | we don't get healer aggro unless the gauntlet takes too long |
| 14:38.24 | dardack | i've single tanked noth in naxx |
| 14:38.28 | Grum | dardack: yeah you drag the champions a tiny bit away |
| 14:38.34 | Grum | dardack: its not fun ;) |
| 14:38.36 | dardack | nope |
| 14:38.40 | dardack | doable |
| 14:38.43 | Grum | undead side is doable easily |
| 14:38.44 | dardack | but sux monkey |
| 14:38.50 | Grum | if you dont stand in the middle |
| 14:39.22 | dardack | anyways back to thorim, so what about the second heals in arena? |
| 14:39.34 | Wobin | Noth or Gothik? |
| 14:39.39 | Grum | euuuh |
| 14:39.43 | Grum | gothik i think |
| 14:39.48 | Grum | the one with the gate |
| 14:39.55 | Wobin | you have to have two tanks for that, surely |
| 14:39.57 | Grum | cant ever remember the names :p |
| 14:40.00 | dardack | no you don't |
| 14:40.04 | dardack | you stay in the live side |
| 14:40.07 | dardack | after wave 10 |
| 14:40.07 | Grum | you dont *have* to :p |
| 14:40.09 | dardack | the gate opens |
| 14:40.12 | dardack | and all the undead come |
| 14:40.13 | Wobin | ah =) |
| 14:40.15 | Wobin | crazy |
| 14:40.19 | Grum | it is considered smart =_ |
| 14:40.19 | dardack | it is crazy |
| 14:40.39 | Grum | anyhow, we only do thorim 10m on hard .. so erm .. |
| 14:40.45 | Grum | we never have 3 healers there |
| 14:40.50 | dardack | ahh |
| 14:40.55 | Wobin | but then you had to do four horsemen with one tank? |
| 14:40.59 | dardack | must be good heals |
| 14:41.01 | Grum | so we have 1 more dps in gauntlet/arena |
| 14:41.11 | Grum | yeah healing is a giant pain (keeping the healer alive that is) |
| 14:41.42 | dardack | yea |
| 14:41.54 | Grum | Wobin: 4H is doable with 1 tank without much problems |
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| 14:42.19 | Wobin | how do you deal with the front two? |
| 14:42.26 | Grum | healer+soaker in back; something with mail/plate which can heal on the right front |
| 14:42.33 | Grum | heroism+rest of the raid on the left front |
| 14:42.37 | Grum | and just nuke it before 3 stacks |
| 14:42.46 | Wobin | hehe, you need some major dps |
| 14:42.49 | Grum | rinse and repeat on the second front one and then go to the back |
| 14:42.55 | Grum | hmmm not major dps |
| 14:42.59 | Grum | you have 7 if you have 1 tank |
| 14:43.07 | Grum | so 5 available at the front |
| 14:43.18 | Grum | euuh 6 |
| 14:43.54 | Wobin | hm, how much damage does the right front take? |
| 14:43.58 | Grum | 6x4k .. on ~780k hp |
| 14:44.04 | Wobin | yeah |
| 14:44.07 | Grum | not much |
| 14:44.10 | Wobin | 4k is considered major dps =P |
| 14:44.15 | Grum | 4-5k hits every ~2 seconds |
| 14:44.17 | Wobin | esp for 10 man naxx |
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| 14:44.22 | Grum | 4k is high with heroism? O.o |
| 14:44.39 | Wobin | hm, never thought of figuring out dps on heroism |
| 14:44.45 | Fisker | pro |
| 14:44.50 | Fisker | keylogging through power cords |
| 14:45.11 | Wobin | Fisker: That's like the old method of copying CRT screens via radiation |
| 14:45.37 | Grum | lets just say that you have ~60 seconds before you get stack #4 |
| 14:45.38 | Arrowmaster | TEMPEST has been used on keyboards too, not just monitors |
| 14:45.42 | Fisker | or selling a spectral tiger in trade for 5000g |
| 14:46.09 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: wasn't TEMPEST a room designed to prevent all types of emissions |
| 14:46.10 | Grum | that means with 6 dps you need an average of ~2200 dps |
| 14:46.14 | Grum | that is not hight :) |
| 14:46.15 | Grum | -t |
| 14:46.22 | Wobin | true |
| 14:46.26 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: no |
| 14:46.33 | Wobin | Grum: but your raid can't be pug =) |
| 14:46.40 | Wobin | cause there's no room for failure |
| 14:46.49 | Arrowmaster | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEMPEST |
| 14:46.50 | Grum | you wouldnt do naxx with a single tank in a pug either ;) |
| 14:47.13 | Wobin | yeah, with my luck it'd be a DW (full) blood DK with 0/0/0 |
| 14:47.23 | Grum | lol just get a guild :p |
| 14:47.30 | Wobin | I do... |
| 14:47.35 | Wobin | but ... so many alts to level... |
| 14:47.55 | Wobin | poor shammy has such terrible hit rating at fresh 80 |
| 14:48.03 | Wobin | I can barely heal DTK |
| 14:48.05 | Wobin | Heroic |
| 14:48.25 | Wobin | naxx 10 comes to about 1k dps |
| 14:48.30 | Wobin | if dps |
| 14:48.50 | Kraps | heal +hit rating? |
| 14:49.01 | Wobin | well, dual spec |
| 14:49.05 | Wobin | ele/resto |
| 14:49.17 | Wobin | Shared gear |
| 14:49.22 | Wobin | cause I just hit 80 |
| 14:49.34 | Grum | hehe |
| 14:49.56 | Kraps | i'm gonna wait no my shaman till 3.2 |
| 14:50.05 | Kraps | s/no/on/ |
| 14:50.13 | Wobin | yeah, resto sounds like it's getting some -really- nifty buffs |
| 14:50.26 | Wobin | and oh god, totem dumping |
| 14:50.30 | Wobin | thank god for that |
| 14:50.37 | Kraps | yeah thats why |
| 14:50.41 | Wobin | wasting 5 seconds each combat is so irritating |
| 14:51.31 | Wobin | http://www.freakingnews.com/Celebrities-Upside-Down-Pictures--2433.asp |
| 14:51.35 | Kraps | although my priest is only 75 :( |
| 14:52.04 | Kraps | I HATE LEVELING |
| 14:52.23 | Cruciformer | 'lo all |
| 14:52.38 | Kraps | 'lo |
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| 14:53.53 | Wobin | Kraps: BOA shoulders |
| 14:54.01 | Wobin | and chestplate, come 3.2 |
| 14:54.40 | Kraps | i have those |
| 14:54.56 | Kraps | the pain is still there |
| 14:55.03 | Industrial | Kraps: if you are that gigh see it as grindnig for money |
| 14:55.12 | Industrial | minus spelling errors |
| 14:55.14 | Wobin | rofl |
| 14:55.15 | Wobin | http://www.freakingnews.com/Angelina-Jolie-Pictures-65360.asp |
| 14:55.25 | Industrial | *clicky* |
| 14:55.29 | Industrial | noooo |
| 14:56.20 | Wobin | UPSIDE DOWN |
| 14:57.44 | Ackis | is there anyway I can speed up the firefox address bar stuff? |
| 14:58.21 | Wobin | yeah, it can be a bit laggy at times =( |
| 14:58.40 | Ackis | it locks this PC up for about 2 seconds when I type in an address |
| 15:00.52 | Fisker | yeah Ackis |
| 15:01.05 | Fisker | http://www.browserforthebetter.com/ |
| 15:01.47 | Kraps | Rumor: Ozzy Osbourne at BlizzCon? |
| 15:01.55 | Ackis | ~Fisker++ |
| 15:01.59 | Ackis | bad Fisker! |
| 15:02.09 | Fisker | you're welcome Ackis |
| 15:02.13 | Kraps | stabs Fisker |
| 15:02.14 | Fisker | truth hurts |
| 15:02.36 | Kraps | so does bullshit |
| 15:02.38 | Shirik | I've been waiting for this moment for all my life |
| 15:03.03 | Fisker | do it |
| 15:03.04 | Fisker | DO IT |
| 15:03.43 | Fisker | falls to his knees with his hands in the air |
| 15:04.04 | Ackis | on your knees eh? |
| 15:04.26 | Cruciformer | Ackis: its where he does his best work |
| 15:04.29 | Kraps | 6 manned FL 10 last night |
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| 15:04.30 | Fisker | don't ruin my moment Ackis |
| 15:04.35 | Fisker | reported for sploits Kraps |
| 15:04.43 | Wobin | I like how browserforthebetter requires Silverlight to show properly at first look |
| 15:04.44 | Kraps | hur |
| 15:04.48 | Wobin | FAIL |
| 15:05.04 | Wobin | can't even degrade gracefully |
| 15:05.13 | Fisker | silverlight is awesome |
| 15:05.33 | Wobin | I wonder what fraction of the class population is now Deathknight |
| 15:06.10 | Shirik | I can feel it coming in the air tonight |
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| 15:06.14 | Wobin | Cause, if I were Arthas... I'd've embedded an Order 66 into all my Deathknights =P |
| 15:06.59 | Wobin | Phil, is that you? =P |
| 15:07.07 | Ackis | I read a comic book last night where they kept shouting out Order63 for a restraunt and hten when they hit Order 66, Jango Fett wanted to kill jedi |
| 15:07.38 | Fisker | btw Wobin |
| 15:07.43 | Fisker | i hate you for bringing up airplane |
| 15:07.46 | Fisker | even if it wasn't your fault |
| 15:07.59 | Wobin | yeah, it was Mikma's fault |
| 15:08.05 | Wobin | as per usual |
| 15:08.09 | Ackis | Fisker: do you have a facebook/ |
| 15:08.22 | Fisker | no |
| 15:08.39 | nicoli_s | hes lying, he uses his facebook to put up all the inappropriate pics of himself |
| 15:08.56 | `Zypher | orly? |
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| 15:11.06 | Ackis | Fisker: do you have a facebook? |
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| 15:13.32 | Fisker | no. |
| 15:13.57 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvepYYNjfBk |
| 15:14.01 | cogwheel | schweet... i'm the first two non-dictionary results for cogwheel on google now =D |
| 15:14.13 | cogwheel | finally beat cogwheel.com |
| 15:14.27 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:14.33 | nevcairiel | good for you =P |
| 15:14.48 | nevcairiel | actually |
| 15:14.55 | nevcairiel | cogwheel.com is higher for me |
| 15:15.00 | nevcairiel | after two dictionarys |
| 15:15.17 | nevcairiel | You know how google changes search result on your browsing behaviour =) |
| 15:15.22 | cogwheel | yeah... |
| 15:15.27 | cogwheel | phooey :P |
| 15:15.41 | Seerah | cogwheel's workshop is #8 for me |
| 15:15.55 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96143900 is the first result for me |
| 15:16.04 | Seerah | #3 is that |
| 15:16.08 | nevcairiel | i have the old macro guide on 4 |
| 15:16.14 | Wobin | hehe |
| 15:16.15 | Wobin | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/0974a0122688e6566d0f8efb8943f75c.png |
| 15:16.16 | nevcairiel | yeah that one |
| 15:16.30 | Ackis | I did a search for cogwheel and the number 1 result was meatspin.com :( |
| 15:16.44 | Wobin | Ackis: shows your browsing habits, eh? |
| 15:16.46 | cogwheel | unleashes the power of his middle finger @ Ackis |
| 15:16.53 | Ackis | :D |
| 15:17.23 | Kraps | cogwheel: y u mad brah |
| 15:18.00 | Kraps | i kid |
| 15:18.02 | cogwheel | :P |
| 15:18.30 | Wobin | Facebook language English (Pirate) is the best option ever |
| 15:19.10 | Fisker | no |
| 15:19.24 | Fisker | "Abandon Ship" is the best option |
| 15:19.25 | Fisker | ever |
| 15:20.03 | Fisker | Someone needs to make a freelancer sequel |
| 15:20.28 | Ackis | cogwheel: did you get all the july 4th items in mafia wars? |
| 15:20.49 | Wobin | Freelancer 2: "Now you pay" |
| 15:23.09 | cogwheel | Ackis: yep |
| 15:23.33 | Ackis | what did you get for them? |
| 15:24.33 | cogwheel | dunno... wasn't paying attention... |
| 15:24.42 | Ackis | ah |
| 15:28.19 | mikma | wobin: hailal sure, blame me, nutsack |
| 15:28.30 | Wobin | ok |
| 15:28.39 | Wobin | blames mikma's nutsack |
| 15:29.42 | Kraps | i need help making a macro that will target a dark rune champion, but not one sitting in the stands an the arena |
| 15:30.13 | Kraps | just doing /tar dark rune champion was fail |
| 15:32.07 | Vilkku | mods cannot write to other files than saved variables, right? |
| 15:32.12 | Wobin | Kraps: you cannot |
| 15:32.26 | Wobin | you can however make one that targets a dark rune champion |
| 15:32.26 | mikma | vilkku: näin on nännit |
| 15:32.31 | Wobin | then check if the champion has a target |
| 15:32.38 | mikma | vilkku: ja sv kirjoitetaan reloadui:ssa tai logoutissa |
| 15:32.40 | Wobin | and if so, grab him |
| 15:32.53 | Wobin | (and by if so, I mean with another attack, not with the macro) |
| 15:32.54 | Vilkku | mikma, joo, näin arvelinkin, kiits |
| 15:33.11 | Wobin | that |
| 15:33.12 | Wobin | er |
| 15:33.37 | Kraps | Wobin: would repeatedly clicking the macro cycle through em? |
| 15:33.39 | Wobin | that's how I focus assist on the Evokers on Thorim. I spam the target macro til I get one that's actually targetting someone (MT, healer, etc) |
| 15:33.59 | Wobin | Kraps: maybe =) |
| 15:34.09 | Kraps | lol wut |
| 15:34.18 | Wobin | It works for me, that's all I know |
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| 15:34.25 | Wobin | whether that's due to pure luck, I can't say |
| 15:34.45 | Wobin | I don't know if technically that's what occurs, or if it just tries for the closest one |
| 15:35.06 | Wobin | you can have your macro untarget first, or target yourself, then try targetting the mob |
| 15:35.16 | Wobin | that will get the closest one, probably and not get stuck on one |
| 15:37.55 | Kraps | my survivability still sucks btw http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Ertis |
| 15:39.43 | Arrowmaster | wtf http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=59523 |
| 15:39.44 | Wobin | Kraps: you need more naxx gear |
| 15:39.47 | Fisker | http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/eb/archive/00452/fujifilm-3d-camera__452618d.jpg < :| |
| 15:39.59 | Wobin | that's mostly heroic and badge gear, right? |
| 15:40.18 | Wobin | you need another level of gear before it'll get easier in ulduar |
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| 15:40.54 | Kraps | heroic naxx? |
| 15:41.30 | Kraps | most of my stuff is as good or better |
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| 15:42.23 | Kraps | i can get the badge neck too |
| 15:42.40 | Kraps | the conquest one |
| 15:42.49 | cogwheel | "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand." |
| 15:44.12 | nicoli_s | nooooooooooooo! not the precious sand! |
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| 15:44.40 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: NVG... |
| 15:44.46 | Wobin | kinda sad |
| 15:45.01 | Wobin | and a prelude to terrible misuse in the near future =P |
| 15:45.31 | Arrowmaster | its likely gen1 |
| 15:45.37 | Wobin | I can see the number of cases of "Stared too long into a bright light by accidentally wearing NVG in a lit room" rising |
| 15:46.11 | Wobin | cause the last thing people are going to do is get up and turn off the lights before 'testing' it =P |
| 15:46.55 | nevcairiel | thats called natural selection |
| 15:47.04 | Shirik_ | only Microsoft can make a language where you could implement an interface, but make the method totally uncallable |
| 15:48.33 | foxlit | Is it really that different from { throw new InvalidInvocationException(); } ? |
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| 15:49.06 | Shirik_ | yes :P |
| 15:49.10 | Shirik_ | it doesn't even compile; at least that compiles |
| 15:49.44 | foxlit | Wouldn't the language be defined by the programs that *compile*? |
| 15:50.28 | Shirik_ | and those that don't |
| 15:50.34 | Shirik_ | the definition is the line between compiling and not |
| 15:51.14 | foxlit | Meh, the sets are derivable from each other. |
| 15:51.28 | Wobin | Kaelten: http://urbanlegends.about.com/b/2009/02/10/fake-amber-alert-spreads-far-and-wide-and-fast-via-sms-twitter.htm |
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| 15:57.20 | Ackis | WoW |
| 15:57.22 | Ackis | wowowowowowoow |
| 15:57.46 | Ackis | I'm missing 4 cards from the Hunt for Illidan set for the wowtcg.. my gf says "I guess hunting isn't your forte" |
| 16:02.34 | durcyn | now if only you could satisfy her in bed, Ackis |
| 16:02.55 | Ackis | I do |
| 16:03.13 | Ackis | I satisfied your mom too |
| 16:03.31 | durcyn | yeah, she has such low standards these days :( |
| 16:04.04 | Ackis | it all started after you were born, she lowered them to keep you |
| 16:05.42 | durcyn | i'd respond do that, but i can't see the keyboard through the tears :( |
| 16:05.48 | tem|work | Ackis: You were not prepared |
| 16:06.20 | Ackis | oh I see what you did there |
| 16:09.23 | Kraps | who are these 80s that post keyloggers? |
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| 16:09.33 | cogwheel | haipeppeppy |
| 16:09.34 | Lopeppeppy | People who have been keylogged. :) |
| 16:09.47 | Kraps | oh ya |
| 16:09.51 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Cog-dear. |
| 16:10.29 | ScytheBlade1 | that counts as a totally strange yet awesome dream |
| 16:10.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I spent a good hour shopping, buying everything from apples to cookies |
| 16:10.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Wake up and my stomach is just growling in hunger |
| 16:11.17 | Kaelten | Wobin: I can't believe people would fake those, how lame |
| 16:11.19 | Lopeppeppy | I think your stomach wants you to take the hint. |
| 16:11.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm thinking you're right |
| 16:16.44 | alestane | This is the trouble of being home most of the day...my wife will get grumpy if I eat all the desert. |
| 16:18.00 | nicoli_s | hah! good to see someone else has that problem |
| 16:18.10 | Lopeppeppy | Grumpy may not be the correct adjective, alestane. |
| 16:18.11 | nicoli_s | i cant finish anything when my gf isnt home, for fear she wanted some |
| 16:18.45 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Would you recommend "irate"? |
| 16:19.05 | cogwheel | ~weather ksts |
| 16:19.40 | cogwheel | hmm thought it gave forecast highs... |
| 16:20.19 | Lopeppeppy | Depends on the dessert in question, alestane. |
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| 16:21.05 | cogwheel | nicoli_s: alestane: my wife and I established a 2-day up-for-grabs rule because we usually end up in a stalemate |
| 16:21.06 | alestane | New York Super Fudge Chunk, and I've already eaten more of it than she has, I'm afraid. |
| 16:21.41 | nicoli_s | im lucky enough my gf doesnt like chocolate near as much as i do |
| 16:21.54 | Lopeppeppy | Ice cream you should not finish, unless you're prepared to go get more if she pouts. :) |
| 16:22.01 | alestane | Our problem is that she wants her fair share of most deserts we get, but she doesn't eat them unless I remind her. |
| 16:22.19 | alestane | desserts* |
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| 16:22.57 | nicoli_s | i know that feeling completely |
| 16:23.12 | nicoli_s | shell tell me not to eat something, then a week later im throwing it away cuz its not good anymore |
| 16:23.28 | alestane | That, fortunately, doesn't usually happen to us. |
| 16:23.35 | Lopeppeppy | I'd get one of cog's "2 day rules" going into effect then, alestane. |
| 16:23.41 | Lopeppeppy | doesn't have to share desserts. *weg* |
| 16:24.03 | alestane | Except when I come over and eat your Phish Food. |
| 16:24.14 | Lopeppeppy | And you left me the last bite, I saw! |
| 16:24.19 | Lopeppeppy | I totally eated it up. |
| 16:24.51 | nicoli_s | mmmm, i prefer half baked or the willy nelson ice cream myself |
| 16:25.12 | cogwheel | cherry garcia here |
| 16:25.32 | Lopeppeppy | Phish Food all the way... omg the chocolate death. |
| 16:25.55 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Surely you've had Dublin Mudslide? |
| 16:26.33 | Lopeppeppy | Sure and I have not. |
| 16:26.41 | Lopeppeppy | Does that not involve coffee flavors? |
| 16:27.49 | alestane | Coffee, brownie swirls and Bailey's, IIRC. |
| 16:28.04 | Lopeppeppy | Coffee is satanic in nature. |
| 16:28.31 | nicoli_s | not a big fan of coffee myself |
| 16:29.14 | Lopeppeppy | Hates it, my precious. |
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| 16:30.30 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:30.43 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa-dear! |
| 16:30.45 | cogwheel | ohai |
| 16:30.53 | cogwheel | or ojai if you're from California |
| 16:32.41 | Lunessa | Oh lord, stuck in Ojai again. |
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| 16:33.03 | Vilkku | question: if I at the start of my mod define some variables, say |
| 16:33.10 | Vilkku | local bleh = 1; |
| 16:33.24 | Vilkku | will I then have to use local every time I want to do stuff with that variable? |
| 16:33.26 | Lunessa | Oh boy! Scoping questions. :) |
| 16:34.20 | Vilkku | or what if I want to assign it a different variable later? |
| 16:34.29 | Vilkku | will I have to prefix local again? |
| 16:34.32 | alestane | Vilkku: No, because you'll be redeclaring it every time you want to assign something to it. |
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| 16:35.07 | dardack | lua> local bleh = 1; function test() print(bleh); end return test(); |
| 16:35.07 | lua_bot | dardack: 1 |
| 16:35.21 | Vilkku | great, thanks |
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| 16:35.36 | alestane | When the compiler finds a token, it first checks to see if that token is declared locally anywhere that's presently in scope....only if it's not does it assume it's a global reference. |
| 16:35.41 | dardack | lua> local bleh = 1; function test() bleh=bleh+1; print(bleh); end return test(); |
| 16:35.41 | lua_bot | dardack: 2 |
| 16:35.42 | Lunessa | alestane's faster answer ftw. |
| 16:36.33 | Vilkku | also, can you name variables so that they begin with a number? notepad++ highlights it weirdly at least |
| 16:36.50 | dardack | lua> local 2bleh = 1; function test() 2bleh=2bleh+1; print(2bleh); end return test(); |
| 16:36.50 | lua_bot | dardack: luabot:1: malformed number near '2bleh' |
| 16:37.02 | alestane | Not normally. It's possible to make globals that do, but it's awkward to use to say the least. |
| 16:37.16 | Lunessa | Yeah, as luabot has just shown. |
| 16:37.17 | alestane | lua> local _2bleh = 1; function test() _2bleh=_2bleh+1; print(_2bleh); end return test(); |
| 16:37.19 | lua_bot | alestane: 2 |
| 16:37.20 | nevcairiel | i'm not sure i know any language where you can use variable names with a number in front :D |
| 16:37.32 | dardack | yea i knew that alestane |
| 16:37.36 | nevcairiel | its usually just _ and a-Z |
| 16:37.37 | dardack | just was showing you can't really |
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| 16:38.11 | Arrowmaster | lua> _G.2bleh = 1; function test() _G.2bleh = _G.2bleh + 1; print(_G.2bleh); end return test(); |
| 16:38.12 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: malformed number near '.2bleh' |
| 16:38.18 | nevcairiel | arrow fails |
| 16:38.40 | Arrowmaster | lua> _G["2bleh"] = 1; function test() _G["2bleh"] = _G["2bleh"] + 1; print(_G["2bleh"]); end return test(); |
| 16:38.41 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 2 |
| 16:38.44 | Arrowmaster | arrow wins |
| 16:38.48 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you. |
| 16:38.52 | nevcairiel | thats not a variable though |
| 16:38.57 | nevcairiel | you just stored something in a table |
| 16:38.58 | Ackis | lua> print("2") |
| 16:38.58 | lua_bot | Ackis: 2 |
| 16:39.00 | Lunessa | Life is fail nevcairiel; anyone who tells you differently is selling something. |
| 16:39.04 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: mine is easier to read |
| 16:39.14 | nevcairiel | lua> 2 |
| 16:39.14 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 2 |
| 16:39.18 | Ackis | damn |
| 16:39.22 | Lopeppeppy | I think so too, Ackis, doesn't make me want to pull out my eyes. |
| 16:39.26 | Ackis | well played nevcairiel, well played |
| 16:39.48 | Arrowmaster | if lua_bot or wow had the debug lib i could do it with locals i bet |
| 16:40.24 | Arrowmaster | actually |
| 16:40.43 | nevcairiel | you still can with getfenv, but who wants to o.O |
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| 16:41.00 | Arrowmaster | lua> local _L = getfenv(1); _L["2bleh"] = 1; function test() _L["2bleh"] = _L["2bleh"] + 1; print(_L["2bleh"]); end return test(); |
| 16:41.00 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 2 |
| 16:41.05 | Arrowmaster | i did it with locals |
| 16:41.12 | Lunessa | Why would you want to? Why jump the extra hoops? |
| 16:41.41 | nevcairiel | that could just be any table |
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| 16:59.11 | dardack | sigh |
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| 17:05.30 | TopTop18 | I was wondering, must there always be a fram, seen or hidden, to allow data collection/sharing? So if I were to create my database addon, must there be a (hidden) frame to allow the addon to collect data? |
| 17:06.15 | nevcairiel | depends how it does it |
| 17:06.42 | nevcairiel | If you need game events or an OnUpdate, you need a frame |
| 17:06.46 | dardack | wtf is this: The account you are logged in with is not able to post on this forum. |
| 17:07.01 | TopTop18 | Banned :D |
| 17:07.08 | dardack | no i've had it 5 times today |
| 17:07.14 | dardack | i just relog n and i can post |
| 17:07.23 | TopTop18 | Strange, post int ech forums |
| 17:07.32 | dardack | good call |
| 17:07.36 | dardack | was getting pissed off |
| 17:07.56 | Lopeppeppy | Cookies/cache being funky? |
| 17:08.01 | TopTop18 | Nevcairiel, If it only needs data given by other addon through the addon channel, does it require a frame? |
| 17:08.19 | nevcairiel | to listen to the addon channel, yes |
| 17:08.32 | TopTop18 | Okay |
| 17:08.36 | TopTop18 | Thank! |
| 17:08.50 | dardack | Lopeppeppy: don't think so like today first time it's happned, and once i relog i can post for awhile, then just out of the blue i get that error |
| 17:09.17 | TopTop18 | So actually every addon needs a frame to be created, cause otherwise it's useless? |
| 17:09.31 | dardack | no |
| 17:09.39 | dardack | i have 1 that i don't think creates a frame |
| 17:09.44 | dardack | wait have to check now |
| 17:09.49 | TopTop18 | What does it do? |
| 17:10.38 | dardack | yep no frame creation |
| 17:10.40 | alestane | Hmm, is a new optical drive worth $87, given that I won't be able to just replace the computer any time soon, or should I just use another computer for ripping and live with it? |
| 17:10.41 | dardack | mouseoverthreat |
| 17:10.58 | TopTop18 | What does it do? |
| 17:11.06 | dardack | wait $87 for a cd drive? |
| 17:11.12 | Lopeppeppy | Use the other computer, alestane |
| 17:11.14 | dardack | can't you find a cheaper alteternative? |
| 17:11.31 | dardack | i mean i can pick up a dvd/dvdrecorder/cdrecorder for like cheap |
| 17:11.38 | alestane | dardack: It's a mac mini, it takes a specialized drive. |
| 17:11.43 | dardack | oh |
| 17:11.49 | dardack | right this is why i hate mac's |
| 17:11.56 | dardack | i'd use another computer personally |
| 17:12.06 | dardack | but up to you, if i didn't have a family to support i'd buy it |
| 17:12.09 | alestane | It's not the "Mac" part, it's the "Mini" part that makes it hard. |
| 17:12.09 | dardack | since i do i wouldn't |
| 17:12.19 | dardack | alestane: true |
| 17:12.26 | alestane | The towers take standard drives. |
| 17:12.31 | dardack | and when i say hate, i've been slowly liking their stuff |
| 17:12.41 | dardack | but i'm happy with my linux boxes |
| 17:12.41 | TopTop18 | Dardack, what does that addon do? And how can it function without frame creation? |
| 17:12.48 | dardack | can't wait to check out ChromeOS |
| 17:13.01 | Lunessa | alestane: It should be able to use any USB optical device. |
| 17:13.02 | dardack | TopTop18: on mouse over tells you the next closest persons threat on that mob |
| 17:13.07 | Lopeppeppy | TopTop18, I bet it sends more info to the already-created tooltip, maybe that's how it gets around things. |
| 17:13.19 | dardack | i hated in pugs how people can't assist the tank and as blood my aoe threat can be lacking |
| 17:13.26 | alestane | Although we do presently have a dvd drive plugged into a USB hard-drive enclosure interface, I can use that if I don't mind half-assembled electronics lying on the desk. |
| 17:13.42 | Lopeppeppy | I assist the tank all the time in PUGs. |
| 17:13.51 | dardack | i do have an AppleTV hacked with mythtv on it |
| 17:14.00 | Lopeppeppy | Put them in a shoe box, they look much more assembled that way! |
| 17:14.01 | dardack | Lopeppeppy: then you are a good pug member and make my friends list |
| 17:14.05 | Dewin | Lopeppeppy: That'd make sense, since if you hook whatever code creates a tooltip you get called whenever that code gets called which is in response to an event... and you can query threat directly instead of having to wait for an event with the information. |
| 17:14.08 | TopTop18 | Lopeppeppy, that'ld explain things :D |
| 17:15.20 | dardack | well yes the tooltip is a created frame already there, but i was just making a statement that not every single mod needs to create a frame if one already exists |
| 17:15.47 | Dewin | TopTop18: I think if you use AceComm for the addon chat channel you can get away with not creating a frame, but that's only because AceComm already creates one. |
| 17:15.59 | Dewin | The noteworthy aspect here is it creates one frame, not one frame per addon using it. |
| 17:16.07 | dardack | oh i also like my mod on razor, cause how many times you tell hunters dps the watchers first, for some reason they like to hit the other ones first |
| 17:17.00 | Dewin | dardack: If I'm having targetting issues when I know there's decent AOE threat and no CC to worry about, I'll sometimes attack whatever I can see while I'm looking for the right mob. |
| 17:17.10 | Dewin | wtb FFXI-style tab targetting. |
| 17:17.29 | dardack | Dewin: which is fine however when they've just popped up from the tunnels and cause of rune CD's my DnD is still down |
| 17:17.50 | alestane | I have a mod that doesn't create any frames or directly modify one! |
| 17:17.57 | dardack | or not waiting for pestilence to allow the diseases to tick |
| 17:17.57 | Dewin | dardack: If the hunters kill themselves then they need to lrn2fd |
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| 17:18.15 | dardack | yea well for 1 of them i think the FD is broke except on wipes |
| 17:18.43 | TopTop18 | Dewin I'll just create a frame for my addon :D And hide it whether or not the current person is allowed to interact with it :D. that saves the creation of an additional frame |
| 17:18.48 | dardack | usually it's not an issue cause we kill them and my DnD is up or BB, but there is that like 5% when everything seems to be on CD |
| 17:18.59 | dardack | dont' even need to hide it |
| 17:19.15 | dardack | local LootWhatIWant_Frame = CreateFrame("Frame", "LootWhatIWantFrame") |
| 17:19.36 | dardack | then just intereact with your frame |
| 17:19.39 | Dewin | Yeah, a frame is fairly invisible unless you start doing things with it |
| 17:20.01 | TopTop18 | Hmm |
| 17:20.04 | dardack | i only use the Frame to register events ,set script |
| 17:20.20 | dardack | LootWhatIWant_Frame:RegisterEvent("BAG_UPDATE"); LootWhatIWant_Frame:RegisterEvent("LOOT_OPENED"); LootWhatIWant_Frame:SetScript("OnEvent", LootWhatIWant_LOOT_OPENED) |
| 17:20.39 | dardack | and yes i should change the name of the function |
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| 17:23.52 | TopTop18 | Hmm now I'm thinking about it it might be better to create an other frame then to hide the config frame when not allowed to interract with it, cause it won;t have to load all buttons and other functionality stuff when you're not even allowed to use it |
| 17:24.05 | Vilkku | question: quick way to check if a variable ends with a 0 |
| 17:24.16 | Vilkku | the question part would be: how? |
| 17:24.35 | alestane | Is it a number variable or a string variable? |
| 17:25.12 | Cruciformer | Vilku: (number %10) -- 0 |
| 17:25.17 | Cruciformer | s/--/==/ |
| 17:25.30 | alestane | String variable: var:sub(-1) == "0" |
| 17:25.54 | Vilkku | it's a number, cheers |
| 17:26.16 | Cruciformer | Vilkku: Do you want to know if the variable name ends ina 0 or the contents of the variable do? |
| 17:26.22 | alestane | Then what you're really asking is, how to tell if a number is a multiple of ten. |
| 17:26.38 | Vilkku | Cruciformer, contains |
| 17:26.44 | Vilkku | contents* |
| 17:27.08 | Cruciformer | then "if (tonumber(variable) % 10 == 0) then whatever end |
| 17:27.11 | alestane | Unless you're accustomed to doing your math in some other base. |
| 17:28.15 | Vilkku | lol :P |
| 17:28.57 | Dewin | alestane: Heh. I remember being pleased with myself when I realized that I could use foo&2 to determine if foo is odd or even. |
| 17:29.17 | alestane | "Don't worry; base 8 is just like base 10 really..." |
| 17:29.17 | alestane | "...if you're missing two fingers." |
| 17:29.19 | Dewin | and it's faster than foo%2 |
| 17:29.36 | alestane | Dewin: foo & 1, then. |
| 17:29.41 | Dewin | (I don't know if that's valid Lua, but it works in most other languages I deal with) |
| 17:29.44 | Dewin | err, yeah |
| 17:29.54 | Dewin | too much blood in the caffeine stream. |
| 17:30.15 | alestane | Lua doesn't do bitwise natively, so it's usually faster to use the math operators. |
| 17:30.42 | TopTop18 | Dewin, lol |
| 17:30.43 | Cruciformer | you need the bit package compiled or laoded into lua and use bit.and in Lua. No native &. |
| 17:31.04 | Cruciformer | (wow has that package btw) |
| 17:31.49 | alestane | However, calling a function out of a package is not likely to be faster than calling foo % 2 in Lua. |
| 17:32.01 | Cruciformer | Indeed. |
| 17:32.06 | Dewin | I'd agree :) |
| 17:32.11 | Dewin | I was speaking generically, not Lua. |
| 17:32.17 | alestane | It's useful for data compression, but not for CPU performance. |
| 17:32.39 | Shirik_ | __mod = function() for x = 1000000000 do end; return 0; end |
| 17:32.46 | Shirik_ | __mod = function() for x = 1,1000000000 do end; return 0; end |
| 17:32.50 | Shirik_ | now it's faster |
| 17:33.21 | Dewin | My usual use-case is in PHP-generated tables (of the <table> type, not of the {} type) to assign each row either 'row0' or 'row1' as a class to give alternating colors in output. |
| 17:33.39 | alestane | Oh, in C it's great optimization, although many compilers can pre-optimize x % 2 into x & 1 IINM. |
| 17:33.53 | Shirik_ | ~iinm |
| 17:34.00 | Shirik_ | ~wtf iinm |
| 17:34.02 | alestane | if I'm not mistaken. |
| 17:34.04 | Shirik_ | :( |
| 17:34.26 | Dewin | alestane: Would not surprise me. |
| 17:34.39 | Shirik_ | x & 1 is dangerous |
| 17:34.40 | theorbtwo | I should think these days, almost any compiler. |
| 17:34.55 | theorbtwo | Shirik_: How so? |
| 17:35.00 | Dewin | Shirik_: For what I use it for, it works fine |
| 17:35.10 | Shirik_ | going to confirm before I answer that theorbtwo, but I see an edge case I think |
| 17:35.38 | Dewin | If it involves negative numbers, it's still fine :) |
| 17:36.29 | Dewin | (PHP) $rowtype = 0; while($row = mysql_fetch_assoc($result)) { echo '<tr class="row', $rowtype ^=1, '">'; /* ... */ } is my most common usage. |
| 17:36.30 | Cruciformer | I dont see how x & 1 is dangerous at all. |
| 17:37.10 | Shirik_ | I actually see two |
| 17:37.11 | nevcairiel | ew, you use echo directly in your code |
| 17:37.14 | nevcairiel | i so dislike that |
| 17:37.14 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:37.35 | Dewin | nev: As opposed to? |
| 17:37.43 | Shirik_ | print? |
| 17:37.45 | nevcairiel | store the whole page in a var, and echo it at the end |
| 17:38.00 | Dewin | Wastes memory. |
| 17:38.06 | Dewin | Especially when the page is outputting 1000+ rows of a table :) |
| 17:38.41 | nevcairiel | if something errors, you end up with a half-broken page, and can't show a nice error page |
| 17:38.50 | Cruciformer | Shirik_: well? what two cases? I assume we are talking about simple integer math here and not floats. |
| 17:39.08 | Shirik_ | shhh, testing |
| 17:39.58 | Dewin | nevcairiel: My own error-handler code covers a vast majority of those cases. |
| 17:40.17 | Dewin | though it does expose certain details, I don't mind that at the moment. |
| 17:40.17 | Shirik_ | yah |
| 17:40.18 | Shirik_ | ok |
| 17:40.20 | nevcairiel | I usually use some sort of templating anyway |
| 17:40.24 | Shirik_ | so there's a negative number problem |
| 17:40.34 | Dewin | nev: I want to. But this stuff is ancient. |
| 17:40.35 | nevcairiel | i try to keep the code and the design seperate |
| 17:40.35 | Shirik_ | it's implementation-dependent |
| 17:40.58 | Shirik_ | on x86 it's safe |
| 17:40.59 | Dewin | Shirik_: It depends on the CPU's implementation of negative numbers, presumably |
| 17:41.04 | Shirik_ | exactly |
| 17:41.08 | Dewin | On platforms where 0 and -0 are different... not so safe |
| 17:41.41 | Cruciformer | Dewin: you cant express -0 as a C int anyway so the point is moot. |
| 17:41.43 | Shirik_ | I was more thinking of one's complement systems |
| 17:41.51 | Shirik_ | Cruciformer: You can't say that |
| 17:41.55 | Cruciformer | Shirik_: Yeah coz the world is FULL of THOSE :p |
| 17:41.56 | Shirik_ | that is not defined by the language |
| 17:42.15 | Dewin | The only difference between negative and positive numbers on x86 is the most significant bit is negative it's value. i.e. an signed byte has the 8th bit equal to -128, whereas on unsigned it's equal to 128. |
| 17:42.17 | Shirik_ | Cruciformer: Go into embedded systems |
| 17:42.50 | nevcairiel | I'm sure the compiler knows where its safe and only optimizes it there, then |
| 17:42.53 | nevcairiel | to get back to the point =P |
| 17:43.11 | Cruciformer | the definition of an int is rigidly defined by ANSI C. |
| 17:43.20 | Cruciformer | So you can ot express -0 using an int. |
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| 17:43.45 | Dewin | nevcairiel: The compiler does, but if a human codes it as foo&1 in the first place it's not going to fix it on ones-complement systems ;) |
| 17:44.06 | nevcairiel | meh thats his problem then =P |
| 17:44.18 | Shirik_ | I would like to see the standard actually stating that -0 is illegal |
| 17:44.23 | Dewin | That being said, I don't imagine my code will be running on an embedded system anytime soon. |
| 17:44.28 | Shirik_ | because saying that would be a big mistake |
| 17:44.48 | nevcairiel | its not illegal, but how do you plan to store "-0" if it just stores a plain 0 in it? |
| 17:44.52 | Shirik_ | And I'm not willing to believe that the makers of that standard are that inexperienced |
| 17:44.55 | Cruciformer | A signed int can hold all the values between INT_MIN and INT_MAX inclusive. INT_MIN is required to be -32767 or less, INT_MAX must be at least 32767. |
| 17:45.01 | Shirik_ | nevcairiel: It would be implementation-defined |
| 17:45.10 | Shirik_ | Cruciformer: .... and? |
| 17:45.39 | Shirik_ | there is a very good reason for leaving this as undefined |
| 17:45.45 | Shirik_ | to allow for all architectures |
| 17:46.34 | Shirik_ | if the language didn't allow for the possibility of a distinction between -0 and 0 there would be a loss of architecture support |
| 17:47.06 | Cruciformer | Arrg I no longer have online versions of the C standard but -0 is nOT a natural integer, and the int types are defined in teh standard as natural integers./ |
| 17:47.26 | Dewin | Cruciformer: http://flash-gordon.me.uk/ansi.c.txt knock yourself out |
| 17:47.49 | Dewin | I'm curious too. |
| 17:48.17 | Cruciformer | that "free" version is a draft, just FYI. The real final one costs money and is copyrighted. |
| 17:48.26 | Shirik_ | I'm looking through the C++ bible right now |
| 17:48.32 | Shirik_ | for a congruency |
| 17:48.39 | Thunder_Child | and praying |
| 17:48.55 | Dewin | Cruciformer: I know. :) |
| 17:49.07 | Dewin | SQL is the same way. |
| 17:49.54 | Cruciformer | The type char, the signed and unsigned integer types, and the |
| 17:49.54 | Cruciformer | enumerated types are collectively called integral types. The |
| 17:49.55 | Cruciformer | representations of integral types shall define values by use of a pure |
| 17:49.55 | Cruciformer | binary numeration system./13/ American National Dictionary for |
| 17:49.55 | Cruciformer | Information Processing Systems.) The representations of floating types |
| 17:49.57 | Cruciformer | are unspecified. |
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| 17:50.34 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:52.13 | Lopeppeppy | Hello again-again, Lunessa |
| 17:53.08 | Lunessa | Why can people not understand the phrase "You don't have an account on that computer, so YOU can't log in to it." ? |
| 17:53.52 | Dewin | m) Yes, because subclause 6.1.2.5 states that the positive signed integers have the same representation as the corresponding unsigned integers, and because signed integers use a pure binary numeration system. The Committee intended to permit ones complement, twos complement, and signed magnitude implementation. |
| 17:54.48 | Shirik_ | that seems to suggest my statement is correct |
| 17:55.46 | Shirik_ | the definitions of mins and maxes seem to support htis as well |
| 17:56.32 | Dewin | yeah, since INT_MIN is -32767 (the ones-complement limit) rather than -32768 (the twos-complement limit) |
| 17:57.17 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, are you sure they dont understand it? or are they simply ignoring it because that is not what they want to hear |
| 17:57.17 | Cruciformer | how is that indication of scope for -0? |
| 17:57.30 | Shirik_ | Well, I saw it as being indication of potential for signed magnitude |
| 17:57.31 | Lopeppeppy | What TC said. |
| 17:57.32 | Cruciformer | -o is not an integer number, its an imaginary number. |
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| 17:57.40 | Shirik_ | but sure |
| 17:57.41 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: Whichever, it still makes me want to punch someone. |
| 17:57.48 | Thunder_Child | agreed |
| 17:57.50 | Shirik_ | Cruciformer: you cannot say that |
| 17:58.02 | Shirik_ | in a computer it has a definite meaning on some architectures |
| 17:58.08 | Cruciformer | more precisely it is not a scalar and I am 100% certain the integral types in C are defined as scalars. |
| 17:58.13 | Dewin | Also, -0 can be a valid representation of -0.0001023 rounded to the nearest integer. |
| 17:58.29 | Shirik_ | ok, I know how to resolve this |
| 17:59.51 | Lunessa | I expect that I skated on thin ice - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18369406964&sid=1 |
| 18:00.00 | Shirik_ | to ##c! |
| 18:00.01 | Fisker | i skated on Shirik |
| 18:00.49 | Fisker | Why not make it an overlay though? |
| 18:00.59 | Dewin | Shirik: foo = ((int) 0xffff) == ((int) 0x0000) resolves how on ones-complement systems? |
| 18:01.05 | Fisker | You wouldn't need the addon or the ui reloading |
| 18:01.43 | Lunessa | why not just play in fucking windowed mode and waste your time twit-ing from the web page? |
| 18:02.12 | Fisker | indeed |
| 18:02.43 | Dewin | Lunessa: I do one better, I have tweakwow installed and alt-enter bound to toggle fullscreen :) |
| 18:02.45 | Lunessa | Meh, like most "social networking" crap, I don't get it. And I'm an original Instant Messaging dev. |
| 18:03.33 | Dewin | I, to my eternal shame, have a facebook site. I don't use it. |
| 18:03.38 | Dewin | That's the extent of my "social networking" |
| 18:03.45 | Dewin | though I played with LiveJournal back when it was new. |
| 18:04.23 | Lunessa | I have Facebook, LiveJournal, MySpace, AIM, Yahoo!, MSN, and even an ICQ account... and I /still/ don't 'get' it. |
| 18:04.23 | durcyn | it's just the next logical progression of sharing every uninteresting banal fact about oneself with the world |
| 18:04.57 | durcyn | 'dear diary' writ large. and stupid. |
| 18:05.15 | Fisker | social networking sites are the cancer killing the internet |
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| 18:05.43 | dardack | i refuse to social network, my wife does |
| 18:05.54 | Torhal | Fisker: You're just saying that because the SC2 devs are twittering instead of releasing your game. |
| 18:05.55 | Dewin | durcyn: Except for the fact that with a diary, your greatest fear is someone other than you reading it. |
| 18:06.16 | Fisker | indeed Torhal |
| 18:06.26 | Dewin | whereas with social networking, your greatest fear is nobody (well, maybe a prospective employer) reading it. |
| 18:07.35 | dardack | yea i don't get social networking, i always said it was for non geeks, but i think that is changing some (i know my little network of geeks isn't as big as the county/state/nation i live in, but for so long most geeks i knew stayed away from social networking sites) |
| 18:08.42 | durcyn | Dewin: which is why the messages have been reduced to said uninteresting, banal, spew. |
| 18:09.49 | Shirik_ | Dewin: That's another question I've been looking for |
| 18:09.54 | Shirik_ | though you're assuming a 16-bit system |
| 18:10.04 | durcyn | either that or i was asleep when the mindset shifted and the next generation no longer knows or cares about privacy |
| 18:10.28 | Shirik_ | things I'm seeing so far |
| 18:10.29 | dardack | they don't |
| 18:10.37 | Shirik_ | "For signed integer types, the bits of the object representation shall be divided into three groups: value bits, padding bits, and the sign bit." |
| 18:10.51 | dardack | i am so surprised how much my sister in law (17) posts online about her personal life |
| 18:11.06 | dardack | i've always been paranoid about what the gov't/people know about me |
| 18:11.09 | dardack | less=better |
| 18:11.29 | Dewin | Shirik_: I was quoting the standard more or less, with assumptions made for simplicity :) |
| 18:11.33 | dardack | i think they're attitude is more=better, even tho they have no idea how that is going to effect them later in life |
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| 18:11.38 | Kraps | gov't... no |
| 18:11.44 | Shirik_ | If the sign bit is one, then the value shall be modified in one of the following ways: (a) the corresponding value with sign bit 0 is negated; (b) the sign bit has the value -2N ; (c) the sign bit has the value 1 - 2N . |
| 18:13.01 | Shirik_ | however 6.5.9 doesn't seem to mention exactly how the relation becomes "true" |
| 18:13.04 | Dewin | what sort of weird system is c? |
| 18:13.41 | Shirik_ | all it seems to say is "Each of the operators yields 1 if the specified relation is true and 0 if it is false." |
| 18:13.44 | Kraps | dardack: i'm pretty sure the gov't doest give a crap about you, except that you follow laws and pay taxes |
| 18:14.01 | dardack | kraps: sorry don't believe that |
| 18:14.23 | Dewin | Shirik_: Does the ASM instruction for comparision return equal in the case of 0 and -0? |
| 18:14.26 | durcyn | dardack: my guess is that it's a ploy for popularity or status, the more internet 'friends' you have, the more you can prop up your false sense of self-esteem? insecurity's a huge factor at that age. |
| 18:14.26 | dardack | to a piont that is |
| 18:14.30 | Shirik_ | it would not |
| 18:14.41 | dardack | durcyn: i can understand that |
| 18:14.52 | Shirik_ | well, it could |
| 18:14.54 | Shirik_ | not all do |
| 18:15.11 | Shirik_ | There's a few ways for testing equality. The one I see most often is an XOR then test for 0 |
| 18:15.14 | Shirik_ | in which case it would be false |
| 18:15.34 | Shirik_ | There's also another common way of doing it is subtracting, in which case it could be true since one's compliment corrections should be performed |
| 18:16.26 | Dewin | Okay. Next question. Does JNZ (or equivalent) jump on negative zero? :) |
| 18:16.33 | durcyn | dardack: which leads me to realize that i'm now officially "old" for thinking of it that way :( |
| 18:16.51 | dardack | durcyn: i've been old for so long an i'm only 30 |
| 18:16.51 | Shirik_ | on x86 that has no meaning, and on any other architecture it would be defined by the architecture :) |
| 18:17.04 | Ackis | Me: What are you- Cat: YOUR WAY! I AM IN IT! Me: Would y-? Cat: LOLWHUT? Me: I need to sit- Cat: IM IN UR CHAIR HAVIN MAH BATH! Me: Sigh. <-- from twitter heh |
| 18:17.29 | durcyn | Ackis: HEH |
| 18:17.37 | Torhal | Why do all cats apparently type like morons? |
| 18:17.39 | Torhal | :D |
| 18:18.00 | Torhal | I dunno. The lolcat thing was funny the first few times. |
| 18:18.02 | durcyn | becaues of, uh, "uninteresting banal memes", to quote myself |
| 18:18.03 | Dewin | Torhal: My cat doesn't. He's almost smart enough to delete my FFXI characters (back when I played FFXI) |
| 18:18.03 | Torhal | Now, meh. |
| 18:18.10 | Torhal | Dewin: Uber. :) |
| 18:18.37 | Dewin | I left the game at the login screen and came back one enter-key away from deleting my character. |
| 18:19.08 | Torhal | Back when I played EQ and the Legend of Ykesha expansion came out, my son bought the expansion for his mother. He was four. |
| 18:19.37 | Ackis | Torhal: you've talked to my cat enough, does it talk like a moron? |
| 18:19.43 | Torhal | Fucking Sony had the electronic purshase option on the login screen, which simply billed your CC without any further verification |
| 18:20.05 | Torhal | Ackis: Your cat either can't type or does so only in some obscure cryptographic manner. |
| 18:20.22 | Ackis | I just think you don't understand what he's saying |
| 18:20.26 | Torhal | Aye, |
| 18:20.28 | Ackis | although he is typing with his butt |
| 18:20.31 | Torhal | Heh |
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| 18:22.16 | Lunessa | "This stuff works perfectly with no issues - but I get errors when it loads" - I submit that it is not perfect/without issue. |
| 18:22.25 | Lunessa | And on that note, off to a training class. |
| 18:22.39 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew, "have fun" ! |
| 18:24.59 | Ackis | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=282917#post282917 |
| 18:25.03 | durcyn | http://consumerist.com/5314246/unruly-teen-charges-23-quadrillion-at-drugstore |
| 18:25.11 | durcyn | my link is better. |
| 18:25.15 | Ackis | nein |
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| 18:25.53 | xqo | hi, what is the current interface-number? |
| 18:26.24 | Ackis | 8675309 JENNNYYYY |
| 18:26.30 | Ackis | 30200 is on ptr? |
| 18:26.46 | xqo | current live |
| 18:27.00 | nevcairiel | 30100 then |
| 18:27.04 | nevcairiel | ~toc |
| 18:27.04 | purl | The current WoW Interface Number is: 30100 |
| 18:27.08 | xqo | ok thank you |
| 18:27.46 | Ackis | you're quite welcome xqo |
| 18:27.49 | Ackis | have a nice day |
| 18:27.50 | Thunder_Child | hmm..so if the website and the manual differ, which do you believe? |
| 18:28.06 | nevcairiel | usually the website is more up to date |
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| 18:31.11 | Kraps | cool update to asteroids http://www.miniclip.com/games/rapid-wars/en/ |
| 18:31.59 | Lopeppeppy | I want Crystal Quest. *sigh* |
| 18:32.11 | Ackis | I want mudkipz |
| 18:32.16 | Lopeppeppy | Depends, is the website a crappy stupid wiki? |
| 18:32.33 | Torhal | Ackis: WTF _are_ mudkipz? |
| 18:32.44 | Ackis | google it |
| 18:32.45 | nicoli_s | he doest know |
| 18:32.47 | Ackis | it's a pokemon |
| 18:32.52 | Torhal | Ugh. |
| 18:34.24 | Ackis | don't you want to be the very best? |
| 18:34.27 | Ackis | the best there ever was? |
| 18:34.46 | Ackis | to catch them is your true test |
| 18:34.50 | Ackis | to train them is... your cause! |
| 18:35.39 | Lopeppeppy | Pikachu, I choose you! |
| 18:35.44 | Lopeppeppy | That's about all I know about the little blighters. |
| 18:36.15 | Ackis | I missed the pokemon craze |
| 18:36.18 | nicoli_s | i know that you are rquired to catch all of them |
| 18:37.10 | Thunder_Child | i was smack dab in the middle of that damn craze |
| 18:37.20 | alestane | "Some of us aren't trying for shocked expressions on our dates' faces, Ms. 'screams "I choose you, Pikachu" at climax'." |
| 18:37.20 | alestane | "Hey! No fair! Davan dared me to do that!" |
| 18:37.30 | Thunder_Child | i used to work at wizards of thte coast when they still had stores |
| 18:37.34 | Thunder_Child | *shudder* |
| 18:37.35 | Fisker | no Kraps |
| 18:37.35 | Fisker | no. |
| 18:38.19 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, no fair sharing pillow talk! |
| 18:39.01 | Kraps | nobody asked YOU Fisker |
| 18:39.03 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: they dont have stores anymore? |
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| 18:40.40 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, no they closed them all down. and they took the games workshop stores with them |
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| 18:41.38 | Fisker | no Kraps nobody asked me or anyone else |
| 18:43.15 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp01102002.shtml I misquoted. |
| 18:43.56 | Lopeppeppy | Davan dared me! |
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| 18:45.26 | Cruciformer | Arrrrrrrrrrrg stateful API's make my toenails curl |
| 18:45.59 | Cruciformer | GuildControlGetRankFlags() is just plain broken |
| 18:47.37 | pompy | Ackis: yeah um, with r2212, im getting no output, but no errors |
| 18:48.35 | Ackis | lol |
| 19:00.25 | Ackis | anyone here live in Boston? |
| 19:00.38 | nicoli_s | nope, though ive been a few times, liked it |
| 19:00.58 | Ackis | you going there this weekend? :P |
| 19:01.00 | Arrowmaster | i have a friend that does |
| 19:01.24 | Ackis | the darkmoon faire is in boston this weekend, wanted to see if anyone was going |
| 19:01.42 | Arrowmaster | the what? |
| 19:01.46 | Ackis | (for the tcg/mini's) |
| 19:07.03 | Lopeppeppy | I live about 4 hours from Boston. :) |
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| 19:07.32 | Kaelten | Shadowed: ping |
| 19:07.35 | Kriseth | Hi guys, I wrote an auto-gratzer a while ago |
| 19:07.44 | Kriseth | Some of you may remember me |
| 19:08.12 | Kriseth | Well, I'm back just to enquire about if my event triggers more than once in "x" seconds |
| 19:08.20 | Kriseth | is it possible to make it only trigger once? |
| 19:09.22 | Ackis | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/funny-pictures-cat-hates-humans.jpg heh |
| 19:14.55 | Ackis | http://ihasahotdog.com/2009/07/14/funny-dog-pictures-video-little-big-doggy/ |
| 19:17.37 | alestane | When you post a "gratz" or similar, make a note of the current time. Whenever the event or message that you're responding to fires, check to see if it's been at least x seconds since then...if not, don't post again. |
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| 19:20.42 | alestane | Ackis: I live about 20 minutes north of Boston, but I'm pretty broke right now...what's the event actually about? |
| 19:22.22 | Ackis | alestane: basically it's a big TCG/Mini tournament |
| 19:22.58 | alestane | Not into either of those things at the moment, I'm afraid. |
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| 19:23.24 | Ackis | alestane: http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/wow/en/organizedplay/tournament/darkmoonfaire/darkmoons_city.aspx?aid=5021 |
| 19:24.05 | malreth | gives Lopeppeppy a piegasm |
| 19:24.15 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, malreth, I missed you so much. *happy wiggle* |
| 19:24.32 | malreth | hi hi~~ |
| 19:24.53 | alestane | He lives! |
| 19:25.08 | Lopeppeppy | Of course he does! |
| 19:25.47 | malreth | yeah... been bogged down with projects lately |
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| 19:26.09 | malreth | also... whoring myself out so that I don't get fired at work |
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| 19:28.43 | Lopeppeppy | Always a good thing, malreth |
| 19:29.27 | malreth | the Powers that Be decided to fire all of our upper management |
| 19:29.28 | malreth | all of it |
| 19:29.41 | malreth | gone... in like a day |
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| 19:29.56 | malreth | kinda like that... |
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| 19:30.16 | malreth | only they lost their paychecks |
| 19:30.16 | Cairenn | wheee, net splits |
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| 19:30.26 | ckknight | whee! |
| 19:30.40 | Thunder_Child | no one important was split |
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| 19:30.55 | nevcairiel | yeah, i'm still here |
| 19:31.19 | malreth | anyway, now we got this "consultant" Bob-guy who's making us justify everything we spend money on... including people |
| 19:31.27 | alestane | Yay, I think I've finally gotten HealThyself working again. |
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| 19:31.32 | End | I wasn't split |
| 19:31.37 | End | I was completely disconnected |
| 19:32.29 | Cruciformer | I always get nervois posting to the wow forums when I think Ive found a bug but in this case I genuinely think I have. At least a very severe weakness in the API. |
| 19:33.04 | nicoli_s | ? |
| 19:33.25 | Cruciformer | Problems with GuildControlGetRankFlags() |
| 19:33.44 | ckknight | Cairenn: do you have any dates in place yet? |
| 19:33.50 | Cairenn | not yet |
| 19:33.52 | ckknight | k |
| 19:34.02 | ckknight | well, my bday's on the 22nd, I still might want to do something for that |
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| 19:34.13 | Cairenn | ah |
| 19:34.44 | nicoli_s | this month ckknight? |
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| 19:34.55 | ckknight | no, in August |
| 19:34.59 | ckknight | it intersects with BlizzCon |
| 19:35.05 | nicoli_s | thats weird, i know people on june,july and august 22n |
| 19:35.34 | Lopeppeppy | hugs malreth. |
| 19:35.44 | malreth | hugs Lopeppeppy back |
| 19:37.40 | malreth | anyways... i was trying to think of yet another lie to explain my long absence |
| 19:37.44 | Arrowmaster | birthday paradox |
| 19:38.26 | ckknight | malreth: sexual reassignment surgery. |
| 19:38.32 | malreth | something like I was a fugitive from the law because of an illicit raw human milk trafficking incident |
| 19:38.35 | Ackis | ckknight: my birthday > your birthday |
| 19:38.45 | ckknight | Ackis: how so? |
| 19:39.06 | Ackis | January 1st is celebrated by billions of people |
| 19:39.34 | malreth | something about the imagery of hundreds of teenage runaways knocked-up so that they would lactate all hooked up to milking machiens |
| 19:39.49 | alestane | Apparently brownies bake oddly when you use confectioner's sugar to make them. |
| 19:40.00 | Lopeppeppy | .... why did you do that, alestane? |
| 19:40.04 | malreth | alestane: confectioner's sugar contains starch |
| 19:40.07 | ckknight | malreth: fun imagery, nonetheless |
| 19:40.11 | Thunder_Child | malreth, i think an artificial hormone will do the same |
| 19:40.14 | Cruciformer | malreth: they dont need to be knocked up, you can give them hormones to lactate |
| 19:40.22 | Cruciformer | TC: snap :) |
| 19:40.30 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 19:40.37 | ckknight | Ackis: but you have to deal with it intersecting with another holiday, basically. People will celebrate not for you, but for the new year. |
| 19:40.40 | malreth | Cruciformer, Thunder_Child: yes, but i wanted "all natural" |
| 19:40.54 | malreth | people pay more money for Organic nowadays |
| 19:40.56 | Aelobin | are you able to buy better pvp gear from honor in 3.2? |
| 19:41.00 | Thunder_Child | malreth, the milk is still natural |
| 19:41.08 | alestane | Because I had brown sugar and confectioner's sugar rather than white sugar, so I used half a cup of each. And the brownies look like they'll be okay, but they also puffed themselves up on one side. |
| 19:41.13 | Cruciformer | malreth: you lie, you wanted to impregnate hundreds of runaway teens, natural had nothing to do with it :P |
| 19:41.21 | Ackis | ckknight: no, you have it backwards. They made the holiday that day because it's my birthday |
| 19:41.32 | Ackis | it's like Christmas, except I'm not Christ |
| 19:41.38 | ckknight | I believe the holiday may have existed before your birth |
| 19:41.49 | Ackis | nope, you are incorrect |
| 19:42.16 | alestane | Indeed: "Sugar, cornstarch." |
| 19:42.39 | malreth | i just realized that in my response to Cruciformer and Thunder_Child I had already convinced myself that the lie was real |
| 19:43.02 | Cruciformer | lol |
| 19:43.22 | Shirik_ | hi malreth |
| 19:43.23 | Shirik_ | there's a name I haven't seen in a while |
| 19:43.25 | Cruciformer | well thats the first step to passing a polygraph |
| 19:43.26 | malreth | i wasn't lying to alestane, however |
| 19:43.41 | malreth | heya, Shirik_. How is your brain doing? |
| 19:44.06 | Shirik_ | um, fine |
| 19:44.06 | Shirik_ | how is your spleen doing? |
| 19:44.13 | malreth | peachy! |
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| 19:44.43 | Shirik_ | good to hear |
| 19:44.54 | malreth | the spleen is necessary for the synthesis of antibodies |
| 19:44.55 | Thunder_Child | malreth, what lie? |
| 19:45.10 | malreth | and removal of aged red blood cells |
| 19:46.04 | Cruciformer | malreth: hence, you should vent your spleen frequently. |
| 19:46.16 | malreth | sometimes, i believe that the spleen is the least understood organ in the body |
| 19:47.01 | Fisker | slaps Shirik_ around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:47.12 | Cruciformer | I like the word "spleen". Not least of all reasons for liking it is Dead Can Dance's album title "Spleen and Ideal" |
| 19:47.35 | Shirik_ | fortunately, the spleen does not have feelings |
| 19:48.05 | Shirik_ | its feelings are emulated by the brain |
| 19:48.05 | Shirik_ | fortunately, the brain does not use virtualpc, it uses vmware, so it's actually realistic |
| 19:48.22 | malreth | :D |
| 19:49.11 | malreth | i think someone just pocket-emailed me... I got a blank message with just the line "---------- Sent using BlackBerry" |
| 19:49.36 | Shirik_ | huh |
| 19:49.39 | Shirik_ | that should be impossible :) |
| 19:50.10 | Shirik_ | at least if they're using the holster, it locks while in there |
| 19:50.13 | malreth | more likely, someone hit send too early... I'll probably be asked to do something in a few minutes |
| 19:50.15 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: The brownies have turned out okay, just a bit cakier than I usually make them. |
| 19:50.53 | Shirik_ | alestane: did you use an extra egg? |
| 19:51.30 | Shirik_ | malreth: Quickly, respond with "I'll take that as an 'there is nothing for you to do; go home early" |
| 19:51.45 | alestane | Shirik_: No, I believe the recipe calls for two. |
| 19:52.16 | Shirik_ | ah, well you get the same effect from using extra eggs :) |
| 19:52.43 | alestane | In this case in comes from cornstarch. |
| 19:52.56 | alestane | it* |
| 19:53.45 | malreth | you also used two different kinds of sugar than usual... that's going to affect the texture |
| 19:54.30 | Lopeppeppy | *nod* |
| 19:54.36 | alestane | I'm glad I went for the "fudgy" variety though, so the flour had been reduced and the baking powder omitted. |
| 19:54.53 | alestane | So they just sort of went back toward cakey. |
| 19:55.17 | Shirik_ | it's ok |
| 19:55.23 | Shirik_ | it's the chocolate part that's important |
| 19:55.29 | malreth | http://www.cookies-in-motion.com/Sugar-Cookies.html |
| 19:55.29 | Shirik_ | so long as it has chocolate it will taste good |
| 19:55.40 | Shirik_ | one of my roommates made brownies in a cookie sheet |
| 19:55.55 | Shirik_ | I don't know wtf he was thinking, but w/e |
| 19:55.55 | Shirik_ | so they came out as cookie brownies |
| 19:55.56 | alestane | BÃodh sea amladh. |
| 19:56.27 | Shirik_ | and because they were chocolate, they still tasted ok |
| 19:57.37 | malreth | hmm... brown sugar doesn't affect a recipe nearly as much as I thought it did |
| 19:57.44 | nicoli_s | whats even better are the half brownie half cookie brookies |
| 19:58.49 | End | malreth: thanks, now I want sugar cookies :( |
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| 20:04.37 | Cairenn | Would someone who is able to post on the EU forums be willing to do a favour for me? Copy this over to your UI forums, please? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18570227959&sid=1 |
| 20:06.50 | Fisker | done |
| 20:07.10 | Cairenn | thanks Fisker :) |
| 20:07.16 | durcyn | ~fisker-- |
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| 20:13.52 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, durcyn DOES care! |
| 20:14.03 | durcyn | shh! |
| 20:14.33 | ScytheBlade1 | It's confusing to see Fisker *not* trolling |
| 20:14.41 | ScytheBlade1 | sits down and tries to absorb it |
| 20:18.08 | Cairenn | huggles Fisker |
| 20:18.14 | Cairenn | huggles ScytheBlade1 too |
| 20:18.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Now let me out of your computer already |
| 20:21.08 | Cairenn | NO! |
| 20:21.40 | ScytheBlade1 | One of these days I'll be employed |
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| 20:22.04 | ScytheBlade1 | And I'll show up at Blizzcon, walk right up to you, and ask if I am in fact in there, or not |
| 20:22.12 | AbsolutRayne | :| |
| 20:22.19 | Cairenn | and I'll huggle the stuffin's out of you! |
| 20:22.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I won't introduce myself first, trust me, I'll be an entirely random stranger |
| 20:22.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus it'll be a minimum of a year and some odd months before that's even possible, so you'll have forgotten |
| 20:22.53 | malreth | psst... ScytheBlade1... Tell them you're me |
| 20:22.59 | ScytheBlade1 | haha there we go |
| 20:23.21 | Cairenn | not possible, since I huggle everyone (that I know) |
| 20:23.31 | ScytheBlade1 | will keep that in mind |
| 20:23.31 | Cairenn | so can't forget |
| 20:24.00 | AbsolutRayne | Wasnt Peppy just in here? O_o |
| 20:24.11 | AbsolutRayne | Also, hai Cairenn <3 |
| 20:24.11 | ScytheBlade1 | 16:14 -!- Lopeppeppy [n=Lopeppep@141.222.29.18] has quit ["Bye bye!"] |
| 20:24.13 | ScytheBlade1 | was |
| 20:24.20 | Cairenn | AbsolutRayne: :) |
| 20:24.34 | Maldivia | I wish I was going to BlizzCon :( |
| 20:25.15 | malreth | me too |
| 20:25.18 | AbsolutRayne | I didnt see the Quit message...odd. |
| 20:25.20 | AbsolutRayne | Oh well |
| 20:25.32 | Cairenn | I wish all of you guys could be going, would love to meet you |
| 20:25.40 | AbsolutRayne | Im too poor :( |
| 20:25.52 | AbsolutRayne | Im not even working yet :/ damn Paperwork. |
| 20:26.04 | malreth | i'm about to be poor |
| 20:26.31 | Maldivia | well, just been 4 weeks in the states - and I'll be attending a course in France when BlizzCon starts, so :/ |
| 20:27.59 | nicoli_s | if i was a little closer geographically id probably go |
| 20:28.42 | Maldivia | 13 hours of flight for me to get there, so agree :) |
| 20:28.50 | nicoli_s | but itd be hard convincing the missus for me to spend like 5 or 600 bucks on a trip that she wouldnt find interesting, and also would take out of our wedding savings |
| 20:31.51 | AbsolutRayne | Also, you dont want to meet me. Im ugly. |
| 20:31.55 | AbsolutRayne | RL troll |
| 20:32.42 | foxlit | http://www.wow.com/2009/07/14/wow-gamer-threatens-to-blow-up-plane/ << oh hai? |
| 20:33.49 | nicoli_s | man i bet that guy feels real dumb |
| 20:34.14 | ckknight | it's all WoW's fault. |
| 20:35.38 | malreth | there should be a law against games that let children make threats like that |
| 20:35.44 | malreth | Blizzard should be shut down |
| 20:36.11 | foxlit | What's interesting is whether someone reported him or if there's some background monitoring going on. |
| 20:36.18 | Arrowmaster | "He had apparently made them because he didn't believe that, contrary to popular belief, that doing so wouldn't alert the police." |
| 20:36.22 | Arrowmaster | grammer fail |
| 20:36.31 | Ackis | grammar fail you mean |
| 20:36.36 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 20:36.38 | foxlit | "The eighteen year old later told Johnson County sheriffs that he "was going to board a plane at 7:30 to Chicago and that (he) was going to try and kill as many Americans as possible"." |
| 20:36.41 | foxlit | logic fail. |
| 20:37.25 | foxlit | He later(!) told the sheriffs (!!) that "he was going to kill..." |
| 20:37.31 | foxlit | Yeah, I see how that could be a problem. |
| 20:40.46 | Fisker | hysteria ftw |
| 20:40.47 | cbreak | who shot the sherif? |
| 20:41.10 | Fisker | but failinsider fails as usual |
| 20:41.18 | nicoli_s | the same guy who didnt shot the deputy |
| 20:41.23 | Cairenn | rofl, what a dumbass |
| 20:41.26 | Fisker | They also write it like he said he was hacked and then that it was a joke |
| 20:41.31 | Cairenn | (just read the article) |
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| 20:48.01 | foxlit | "A facilitator with an online gaming center" << a what now? |
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| 20:55.17 | durcyn | it looks better than "The Pakistani gentleman running a cyber cafe out of the back of his barber shop" |
| 20:56.23 | durcyn | also, i hate the word 'cyber' very very much. |
| 20:56.47 | malreth | cyber-uppercuts durcyn |
| 20:57.44 | Shirik_ | sighs |
| 20:57.56 | Shirik_ | I've been doing too much multithreaded programming lately |
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| 20:58.16 | Shirik_ | It's depressing that I now see things like "a++" and instantly think it's dangerous |
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| 20:59.16 | malreth | atomic_add(1, &a) |
| 21:00.27 | malreth | damn... that made me suddenly hungry now |
| 21:00.32 | malreth | that makes no sense |
| 21:01.13 | Fisker | alright Shirik_ |
| 21:01.14 | Fisker | i hate you |
| 21:01.15 | Fisker | you hate me |
| 21:01.49 | Vilkku | could anyone confirm or bust if there is a limit on how many vapors spawn at vezax or not? |
| 21:02.03 | Maldivia | there's a limit |
| 21:02.09 | Maldivia | since that's how you do hard mode |
| 21:02.10 | Vilkku | is it 8? |
| 21:02.17 | Vilkku | Maldivia, yes |
| 21:02.19 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, it's 8 |
| 21:02.26 | nevcairiel | i've always thoutht its higher then that |
| 21:02.30 | nevcairiel | it didnt feel like 8 |
| 21:02.36 | Vilkku | I was just wondering if you just have to leave 8 unkilled to spawn hard mode and that they would continiue to spawn after that |
| 21:02.45 | Vilkku | or if there indeed is only 8 spawning |
| 21:02.49 | Maldivia | the 8th is the last |
| 21:03.01 | Vilkku | great |
| 21:03.01 | Maldivia | if you kill any before the 8th spawn, no hard-mode for you |
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| 21:06.21 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Kody-] by ChanServ |
| 21:06.47 | Shirik_ | :( |
| 21:06.52 | Shirik_ | Windows formatting specifiers are strange |
| 21:07.05 | Shirik_ | I just wrote {2:D6} and sat there and stared at it for a second |
| 21:07.17 | Shirik_ | thinking about putting /* roll */ in front of it |
| 21:07.50 | Shirik_ | I don't know what was so wrong about printf that they had to change everything |
| 21:10.45 | nevcairiel | nothing was wrong |
| 21:10.50 | nevcairiel | but it wasnt invented by MS |
| 21:14.24 | Fisker | rerolling Shirik_ |
| 21:15.34 | Fisker | http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2009/07/14/critical-javascript-vulnerability-in-firefox-35/ <-hoho a lot of compromised accounts in the coming weeks/months |
| 21:15.35 | Fisker | HOHOHO |
| 21:16.59 | mikma | ~wowalert |
| 21:17.00 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 21:18.38 | End | uh oh |
| 21:18.43 | End | my computer is failing |
| 21:19.00 | ScytheBlade1 | ~emulate fisker |
| 21:19.01 | purl | somebody said emulate fisker was "<reply> OH MY GOD I AM GOING TO CUM" |
| 21:19.09 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 21:19.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I was hoping for "HOHOHO" |
| 21:19.24 | malreth | that's actually pretty funny |
| 21:19.27 | jnwhiteh | Heroes of Newerth |
| 21:19.33 | jnwhiteh | is bad for my time management. |
| 21:20.28 | End | hm |
| 21:20.35 | End | I hope its my power supply that's failing |
| 21:20.41 | End | it just happens I have a spare now >_> |
| 21:21.29 | End | computer is randomly losing power, so it seems likely |
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| 21:34.15 | Lunessa | station |
| 21:34.30 | malreth | BROTHER!!! |
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| 21:35.20 | Lunessa | MALRETH! |
| 21:35.38 | malreth | how ya been? |
| 21:36.00 | Lunessa | You know, same ol' same ol'. Need to get myself out to Austin. |
| 21:36.26 | malreth | it's still here |
| 21:36.45 | Lunessa | Yeah, well, there's that. |
| 21:36.53 | malreth | i was actually just in Houston visiting in-laws |
| 21:37.28 | Lunessa | Should have called. I'd have bought you a beer. |
| 21:37.59 | malreth | or a fan... my wife's parents keep the thermostat at 85 degrees |
| 21:38.07 | malreth | it's inhumane |
| 21:38.44 | Lunessa | It's a violation of the prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment. |
| 21:39.06 | nicoli_s | wow thats pretty bad |
| 21:39.10 | nicoli_s | 75 for me |
| 21:39.25 | durcyn | the geneva convention doesn't explicity mention thermostats =P |
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| 21:45.35 | Lunessa | 31 more days to vacation. |
| 21:46.00 | malreth | Lunessa: got plans? |
| 21:46.31 | Lunessa | BlizzCon and visiting folks all over the south-western US and CA. |
| 21:47.05 | malreth | awesome. hey, if you see someone at BC and he says he's malreth, kick his ass real good for me |
| 21:47.37 | Lunessa | I know what you look like. He can't fool me. But I'll kick his ass even if he looks like you. |
| 21:48.09 | malreth | cool |
| 21:51.02 | Lunessa | I'm going to party in Cali like it's 1999. WooO! |
| 22:04.06 | End | *sigh* |
| 22:04.08 | End | that's a new one |
| 22:04.53 | End | my computer keep freezing up for a few seconds at a time |
| 22:05.15 | Kraps | "Overall, we think avoidance is too high and the game would work better with lower tank avoidance" |
| 22:05.17 | End | brb |
| 22:05.24 | Kraps | whyyyyyyyyyy |
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| 22:05.58 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik_] by ChanServ |
| 22:07.43 | Shirik_ | general network error! |
| 22:08.03 | Shirik_ | System.IOException: User unplugged ethernet cable |
| 22:08.27 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/ilmeella63.jpg |
| 22:08.29 | Lunessa | Unity mode in VM Ware is love. |
| 22:08.38 | Shirik_ | it doesn't work for QNX :( |
| 22:08.47 | Kraps | Shirik__: what would a specific network error be? |
| 22:09.29 | |Jelly| | Lunessa: !!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:09.39 | Lunessa | Sorry Shirik . |
| 22:09.56 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: I keeeeeeel you. One or none. |
| 22:11.00 | End | fuck ide |
| 22:12.25 | Shirik_ | Kraps: One where it doesn't say generic. |
| 22:12.29 | Shirik_ | Lunessa: For what? |
| 22:12.54 | Lunessa | I thought you were commenting on my VM Ware love. |
| 22:13.00 | Shirik_ | oh I was |
| 22:13.02 | Shirik_ | I forgot :) |
| 22:13.14 | Kraps | Amazing. You have nothing to do now people that aren't you are clearing Ulduar. - Eyonix |
| 22:13.17 | End | well, taking the jumper off the cdrom drive seems to have fixed it |
| 22:13.34 | Lunessa | Unity Mode is sweet. I have AD Users and Computers up on my iMac. Sweet. |
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| 22:15.13 | Lunessa | Tonight's back up pjt - finish installing a Linux VM |
| 22:20.43 | AbsolutRayne | yawns |
| 22:23.06 | Kraps | does the forum search ever work? |
| 22:23.15 | Kraps | wow forums |
| 22:23.39 | End | on rare occasion |
| 22:26.12 | AbsolutRayne | Kraps: Not really, no |
| 22:30.17 | malreth | THINGS TO SAY (or not) DURING SEX: http://imgur.com/zZ5Jn.gif |
| 22:30.24 | nicoli_s | hey Pneumatus^^, fire up yer v4 cc, added unidentified addons |
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| 22:31.19 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 22:31.45 | malreth | relink, for Lopeppeppy... THINGS TO SAY (or not) DURING SEX: http://imgur.com/zZ5Jn.gif |
| 22:34.57 | Lopeppeppy | sweet! |
| 22:35.01 | Lopeppeppy | Madre mio! |
| 22:35.21 | Arrowmaster | Baaaa! |
| 22:35.45 | Lunessa | malreth: they left of "describing your medical condition" on the "not" portion |
| 22:36.15 | nicoli_s | they forgot to leave off "dont say anything, just stare" |
| 22:37.10 | Pneumatus^^ | nicoli_s: why cant the CC just tell me theres an update when its running :< |
| 22:37.40 | Stanzilla | nicoli_s: no way to see the name of the folder of the addon it guessed? |
| 22:37.44 | Arrowmaster | theres a "Rawr!" but no "Nomnomnom"..... |
| 22:37.51 | Stanzilla | or the toc title etc |
| 22:38.04 | Pneumatus^^ | there's no way to open the addon folder either (which cc3 has) |
| 22:38.05 | Shirik_ | is specificity a word? |
| 22:38.08 | Shirik_ | ~dict specificity |
| 22:38.11 | Pneumatus^^ | or at least no way ive seen |
| 22:38.20 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: I try to limit myself to encouraging noises and goofy expressions - After all, you want to make sure they feel like they've done the right thing, and you can't really control facial contortions. |
| 22:38.48 | malreth | never use "OM NOM NOM NOM" when going down on a chick if you want to be taken seriously |
| 22:39.07 | malreth | unless she really digs it... in which case she's a keeper |
| 22:39.09 | Shirik_ | "improve amount of specific-ness" |
| 22:39.14 | Shirik_ | ^ give me a real word for that |
| 22:39.16 | Pneumatus^^ | unless she keeps cookies down there |
| 22:39.19 | Shirik_ | "improve <word>" |
| 22:39.20 | nicoli_s | pneumatus, will pass it on that updates should happen while its running |
| 22:39.47 | Pneumatus^^ | Shirik: accuracy? |
| 22:39.49 | nicoli_s | stanzilla, not sure exactly what you mean |
| 22:40.02 | Shirik_ | I'm not really improving accuracy |
| 22:40.05 | nicoli_s | you mean show the folder name of the guessed addon? |
| 22:40.10 | Shirik_ | both are accurate |
| 22:40.10 | Stanzilla | no |
| 22:40.17 | Stanzilla | it tells me which addon it guessed it is |
| 22:40.17 | Shirik_ | just one is more specific than the other |
| 22:40.21 | Lunessa | Shirik_: specificity |
| 22:40.25 | Cruciformer | Shirik_: what was wrong with specificity? |
| 22:40.26 | Stanzilla | but not what the addon really is called |
| 22:40.33 | Shirik_ | dictionary says that's not a word |
| 22:40.39 | Shirik_ | it said something about parasites |
| 22:40.42 | Lunessa | English fail. |
| 22:40.42 | Cruciformer | which dictionary? |
| 22:40.46 | nicoli_s | k, so the name of the physical folder of the addon on your HD right? |
| 22:40.52 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 22:40.53 | Shirik_ | http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/specificity |
| 22:41.05 | Pneumatus^^ | nicoli_s: it doesnt list unidentified addons it cant find a match for still? |
| 22:41.07 | Cruciformer | one sec let me look in my OED I could have sworn it is |
| 22:41.15 | Lunessa | Definition 1 - 1. the quality or state of being specific. |
| 22:41.24 | Shirik_ | oh |
| 22:41.25 | Lunessa | ~fail Shirik |
| 22:41.25 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Shirik. I hate you because you fail. |
| 22:41.27 | Shirik_ | I missed that :( |
| 22:41.39 | Pneumatus^^ | its just listing 2 addons which ive got that may match, but i cant find a way of seeing the addons it cant match at all |
| 22:42.32 | Cruciformer | do i still need to look in teh OED? This thing is cumbersome and i cnt find the magnifying glass that came withit |
| 22:42.37 | nicoli_s | dunno bout that pneumatus, will ask |
| 22:42.48 | Lunessa | Cruciformer: OED rules. |
| 22:42.55 | Cruciformer | Lunessa: Agreed. |
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| 22:43.31 | Cruciformer | I haev the compact version which is all 27 volumes in one ... in tiny 2-point font. |
| 22:43.52 | Pneumatus^^ | nicoli_s: any idea how long the 'ignore' is for... like, will it ignore until the next released version or for ever? |
| 22:45.19 | nicoli_s | pneumatus, ignores it until you decide to accept it i think |
| 22:45.23 | Pneumatus^^ | and it's suggested "Enhanced TradeSkill Window (co" for someone it doesnt know, but i've got no idea what addon it thinks that is |
| 22:46.10 | Pneumatus^^ | and the addon its suggesting doesnt have a page on curse, so its long dead |
| 22:46.28 | Cruciformer | Shirik_: According to OED, specificity is a word. So is specificness, although it says the word is "rare". |
| 22:47.18 | Cruciformer | specificity: 1a. the quality or fact of being specific in operation or effect. |
| 22:48.56 | Shirik_ | yay |
| 22:49.01 | Shirik_ | because that's the word I came up with originally |
| 22:49.06 | Shirik_ | and then I was like "I dunno if tha'ts a word" |
| 22:49.14 | nicoli_s | Pneumatus^^: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-v4-windows/tickets/150-unidentified-addon-enhancement/ |
| 22:50.10 | Pneumatus^^ | voted |
| 22:50.39 | malreth | updates complete! i've made a million extra dollars today! also, everybody loves me. also, i can't stop lying. time to go home |
| 22:50.47 | malreth | see you all later |
| 22:51.17 | Pneumatus^^ | nicoli_s: CC shouldnt be suggesting addons that dont exist either |
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| 23:11.10 | mikma | cairenn|afk: it's all a big trap! http://www.geekologie.com/2009/07/cats_manipulate_people_with_th.php |
| 23:12.17 | Lopeppeppy | we already knew that. :) |
| 23:13.18 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2009/07/why_didnt_i_think_of_that_spli.php |
| 23:14.29 | Esamynn | yah, that isn't news :P |
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| 23:23.52 | Esamynn | it's too quiet in here |
| 23:24.01 | Esamynn | so I'm going to pose a question for discussion |
| 23:24.56 | Esamynn | which is more awesome, Grunty (aka the Murloc Marine, aka the Marine Marine), or Murky? |
| 23:26.08 | Lopeppeppy | Murky! |
| 23:26.10 | Lopeppeppy | He dances! |
| 23:26.40 | mikma | grunty shoots noobs! |
| 23:28.44 | Kraps | any tips on killing a holy pally on volazj? |
| 23:29.28 | mikma | gank him |
| 23:30.02 | Kraps | theres also a disc priest :/ |
| 23:30.29 | mikma | massive amounts of players nuking them |
| 23:30.39 | Esamynn | numbers, NUMBERS! |
| 23:30.45 | Esamynn | smacks mikma |
| 23:30.52 | mikma | cries a little |
| 23:31.13 | Lunessa | The truth is Murky and Grunty are the SAME PERSON! Like CLARK KENT IS SUPERMAN! |
| 23:31.24 | ScytheBlade1 | .... hahahah |
| 23:31.24 | ScytheBlade1 | So |
| 23:31.27 | mikma | no... |
| 23:31.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm googling "windows keylogger" |
| 23:31.32 | mikma | SUPERMAN is CLARK KENT |
| 23:31.44 | mikma | superman was born superman, his secret identity is clark kent |
| 23:31.44 | ScytheBlade1 | shockingly, windowskeylogger.com is registered... and is a spam domain |
| 23:31.48 | ScytheBlade1 | autogenerated link on the left |
| 23:31.54 | Lunessa | mikma: I saw Kill Bill also |
| 23:31.57 | ScytheBlade1 | "Free Spyware" "Spyware Software" |
| 23:32.02 | mikma | lunessa: neat :) |
| 23:32.26 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: and this surprises you? |
| 23:32.35 | mikma | anyone who hasn't should smack him/herself on the face, hard |
| 23:32.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn: I find "Free Spyware" an amusing thing to advertise |
| 23:32.59 | Esamynn | amusing? yes, surprising? no |
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| 23:34.07 | Esamynn | I bet Murky vs. Grunty would be a great troll topic on the forums ;) |
| 23:35.18 | mikma | try it and see where it heads |
| 23:38.02 | Esamynn | meh, maybe not |
| 23:38.51 | Lunessa | SBO - I have all the free spyware you could ever want. *dumps the sophos quarantine into SBO's inbox* |
| 23:39.15 | Esamynn | lol |
| 23:40.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: any of them a keylogger? I'm interested |
| 23:41.07 | mikma | purl: botmail to beladona: we can't click the files in wowcompares.com |
| 23:41.09 | Lunessa | You find my ideas interesting and wish to subscribe to my newsletter? |
| 23:41.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Possibly |
| 23:41.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Depends on the quality |
| 23:41.39 | Lunessa | I do it myself on a typewriter. |
| 23:41.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably not, then |
| 23:42.04 | Lunessa | I dug the tracking device out of my head with an exacto knife. |
| 23:42.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I uh |
| 23:42.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Er |
| 23:42.38 | ScytheBlade1 | k |
| 23:43.06 | Lunessa | Ok, all nutball jokes aside, anyone here ever watch the show "dead like me"? |
| 23:44.28 | Cruciformer | lunesa: the one with mandy patinkin? |
| 23:44.36 | Lunessa | Yeah |
| 23:44.39 | Lopeppeppy | I love it, Lunessa! |
| 23:44.43 | Cruciformer | I ansolutely LOVE that show |
| 23:44.43 | Lopeppeppy | I'm re-watching it on Hulu. |
| 23:44.56 | Lunessa | I recently found it on hulu and watched both seasons. |
| 23:45.16 | Cruciformer | I was so bummed when they wrote him out of criminal minds, I like his acting. |
| 23:45.22 | Lunessa | Pretty much sucked it down in a weekend marathon |
| 23:45.34 | Lopeppeppy | I'm only partly through season 1, I've seen odd episodes here and there of season 2 but not in order. |
| 23:45.47 | Lunessa | Cruciformer: He sings and does stage - you can find a lot of his work on DVD or CD |
| 23:45.54 | Cruciformer | Lopeppeppy: was daisy adaire in season 1? |
| 23:46.01 | Lunessa | Yes. |
| 23:46.18 | Cruciformer | i loved the repatee between her and the english dude |
| 23:46.19 | Lopeppeppy | Not in the first few episodes, but eventually. |
| 23:47.18 | Cruciformer | Lunessa: ever watch "Lie to me"? |
| 23:47.21 | Lunessa | It was a surprisingly good show for basically being a coming of age sotry. |
| 23:47.39 | Cruciformer | or "Life"? |
| 23:47.44 | Lunessa | Cruciformer: Yes, I gave it 5 episodes because I like Tim, but ... it was a weak premise. |
| 23:48.01 | Lunessa | And I liked Life and was sad when it ended on a cusp. |
| 23:48.04 | Cruciformer | i'll give u that but it wa still entertaining |
| 23:48.16 | Cruciformer | I hope Life isnt cancelled is it? |
| 23:48.20 | Lunessa | It is. |
| 23:48.26 | Cruciformer | awwwww shit |
| 23:48.40 | Cruciformer | Sarah shahii was my fave new eye candy |
| 23:49.05 | Cruciformer | I thought it was doing real well |
| 23:49.12 | Lunessa | My Own Worst Enemy - which was seriously "True Lies" comedy gold couldn't get past some weaksauce moments. |
| 23:49.51 | Cruciformer | if they continue lie to me and can life Ill be sorely disappointed in the viewing public. |
| 23:50.08 | Lunessa | I'm currently only paying attention to "In Plain Sight" and "Burn Notice" - Royal Pains has milked its premise for all it is worth already. |
| 23:50.57 | Lopeppeppy | I'm guiltily enjoying "True Blood" when I watch it with a girlfriend. :) |
| 23:51.52 | mikma | i enjoy watching porn with wife |
| 23:52.08 | Lunessa | I wanted to like that because the female lead is ... delicious... but *shrug* |
| 23:52.13 | Lopeppeppy | mikma, that's a good thing! |
| 23:52.24 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, it's unserious eye candy. |
| 23:52.34 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: *hug* Yup. |
| 23:52.36 | Lopeppeppy | I also enjoy Merlin because it's friggin' hilariously horrible. Same with Krod Mandoon. |
| 23:52.52 | Cruciformer | dont ask me why but I really enjoyed dirty sexy money. I like almost everything donald sutherland does. |
| 23:52.56 | Aqua | I'm just glad Eureka is back |
| 23:53.09 | Aqua | dirty sexy money rocked! |
| 23:53.11 | Shirik_ | going home baibai |
| 23:53.30 | Arrowmaster | when does eureka start back again? |
| 23:53.37 | Aqua | its started back last friday |
| 23:53.43 | Arrowmaster | seriously? |
| 23:53.48 | Aqua | on syfy...... biggest waist of money ever.... |
| 23:53.50 | Aqua | yes i'm serious |
| 23:53.50 | Arrowmaster | i need to go download it then |
| 23:53.50 | Cruciformer | I thought it was cancelled? |
| 23:54.01 | mikma | industrial: HUZZAH! spotify:user:stephenx_86:playlist:4gMM39lyZTXELUEsclAqag |
| 23:54.10 | Aqua | nah, its not canceled, its pretty popular actuall |
| 23:54.14 | mikma | industrial: 1918 ebm songs :D have fun! |
| 23:54.35 | Aqua | althought syy is gonna kill it if they freaking leave it in a friday time slot |
| 23:54.42 | Cruciformer | altho the 2nd best comedy ever made reallllly needs to come back: Boston legal. |
| 23:54.44 | Aqua | *syfy |
| 23:54.59 | Aqua | won't happen |
| 23:54.59 | Arrowmaster | it used to be on a tuesday or wednesday slot i thought |
| 23:55.15 | Aqua | it used to be Wed.. |
| 23:55.47 | Cruciformer | I absolutely loved boston legal. |
| 23:56.10 | Cruciformer | Even lawyer Nick George couldn.t save the Darling clan from being cancelled. ABC opted not to order a full second season. |
| 23:56.24 | Cruciformer | thats what tvseriesfinale.com says about dirty sexy money |
| 23:56.42 | Aqua | yea, it was on late |
| 23:56.48 | Aqua | 9 pm is a highly dvr'ed time slot |
| 23:57.23 | Aqua | all the local news run at that time around here |
| 23:57.57 | Aqua | i think i'm gonna hate Stargate:Universe |
| 23:58.04 | Aqua | freaking Lou Diamond Phillips |
| 23:59.41 | Lopeppeppy | I like him in small doses. He was good in La Bamba. |
| 23:59.53 | Lopeppeppy | and a few other things I'm not thinking of 'cause my brain is fried. |
