| 00:00.35 | Shirik|zZz | My roommates are morons |
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| 00:01.34 | batrick | o ya |
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| 00:01.45 | bleeter | Dagmar: I'm sorry, I thought your ad-hominem comments were an invitation to reply with same |
| 00:01.56 | bleeter | I'll just shurrup seeing you're giving but can't take |
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| 00:04.07 | Gnarfoz | after effects just needs to die |
| 00:05.08 | Dagmar | What I said about Thompson could hardly be called ad hominem because it's freaking _true_ |
| 00:06.13 | batrick | calm down children |
| 00:07.08 | Dagmar | http://www.joystiq.com/2007/09/26/jack-thompson-submits-gay-porn-to-court-judge-not-amused/ <-- seriously, I wasn't exagerrating |
| 00:10.44 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: please, not until cinef sort the crap that was jahshaka out :D |
| 00:10.47 | bleeter | *cinefx |
| 00:11.07 | bleeter | or until I work out how to do similar foo in Blender |
| 00:11.16 | bleeter | ;) |
| 00:11.20 | Gnarfoz | also I seem to have missed another popcorn-worthy Dagmar episode :o |
| 00:11.34 | Gnarfoz | AFX just keeps crashing on me when doing simple things, and I don't even know why ;D |
| 00:11.55 | bleeter | oh, so you'd like it to STOP dieing, eh? :P |
| 00:12.39 | bleeter | had totally forgotten about jahshaka |
| 00:12.56 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 00:13.35 | bleeter | run it up in a debugging VM and step back after the crash? ;) |
| 00:13.49 | bleeter | that may be a little extreme for your tastes though hehe |
| 00:15.21 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
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| 00:24.05 | Codayus | Gnarfoz: If your looking for basic compositing, blender is remarkably good. Doesn't do some of the motion-graphics stuff After Effects does. |
| 00:27.01 | TC-Away | *sigh* only manson would have a song named cake and sodomy |
| 00:27.47 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: nah, AC would |
| 00:27.53 | bleeter | and worse, no doubt |
| 00:28.42 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: I'll msg you the translation if you dunno who AC are |
| 00:28.54 | bleeter | er... definition |
| 00:29.05 | Thunder_Child | brb |
| 00:29.17 | bleeter | lol pita mask |
| 00:29.43 | bleeter | er.. cloak |
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| 00:30.10 | TC-Touch | I really really hate redrafting |
| 00:30.19 | TC-Touch | restarting |
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| 00:38.16 | Cruciformer | jnwhiteh: ping |
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| 00:42.22 | Thunder_Child | someone needs to make an addon that alerts you when you put your mana gem in the bank |
| 00:43.20 | Cruciformer | wonders why Blizzard uses "CENTER" for horizontal justification but "MIDDLE" for vertical. |
| 00:44.32 | digmouse | cuz Blizzard's world turns 90 degrees |
| 00:44.47 | Cruciformer | so's my middler finger :) |
| 00:44.54 | Cruciformer | (at them not you) |
| 00:45.04 | Adys | or is it?! |
| 00:45.11 | Thunder_Child | because if both were center if you said "center right" how would you know which center you are refering to? |
| 00:45.14 | Cruciformer | or IS it ... as Adys said :) |
| 00:45.27 | Thunder_Child | s/r if/r and if/ |
| 00:45.58 | Cruciformer | TC: Well considering that I dont speak English to SetJustifyH and SetJustifyH, and I know of no function that takes both simultaneously, thats a moot point. |
| 00:46.15 | Cruciformer | *SetJustifyH and SetJustifyV |
| 00:47.49 | Cruciformer | not to mention the fact that something cant be justified both centered and right horizontally, so "center right" automatically implies centered vertically and to the right. |
| 00:48.20 | Thunder_Child | that assumes that the first center is refering to horozontal |
| 00:48.32 | Thunder_Child | this is my point, it clears up confusion |
| 00:48.46 | Cruciformer | *sigh* ... the *RIGHT* refers to the horizontal, ergo the otherone must be the vertical. |
| 00:49.29 | Thunder_Child | stop assuming people are smart |
| 00:50.08 | airtonix | yes, the age of hitler is far behind us |
| 00:50.26 | airtonix | everyone now is a steaming pile of blubbering emotions |
| 00:50.38 | Cruciformer | airtonix: suitably Godwinn'ed |
| 00:50.51 | airtonix | how is it that william gibson describes the modern human? |
| 00:51.16 | Cruciformer | poorly if he's the william gibson of cyberpunk fame |
| 00:51.30 | airtonix | a sweating shivering overweight creature living in the dark with a thousand eyeballs quivering, constantly seeking the next source of sensory enjoyment |
| 00:52.27 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck does my newegg shoping cart have a $400 difference between what it says for grand total and the quick view thingy at the top..... |
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| 00:52.41 | Thunder_Child | it doesnt add in tax/S&H? |
| 00:52.45 | airtonix | rage in five....four...thre.. |
| 00:52.54 | bleeter | ARRAARARRARAR |
| 00:53.07 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: no the quick view thingy at the top is $400 higher |
| 00:53.21 | airtonix | <Imminent System Shutdown: Rage Error 404 > |
| 00:53.41 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, mine works fine |
| 00:53.45 | Cruciformer | what time is jnwhiteh usually on? |
| 00:53.59 | Thunder_Child | EU time iirc |
| 00:54.12 | Cruciformer | Ok thanks TC. |
| 00:54.18 | bleeter | yeah it's his saturday night now, so prolly .. not anytime rsn ;) |
| 00:54.53 | Cruciformer | More than likely I'll forget what I wanted to ask him then :) |
| 00:55.12 | Thunder_Child | weekends are the worst time to be asking questions here since for some reason some people actually have lives |
| 00:55.15 | Adys | night all |
| 00:55.23 | Cruciformer | night Adys |
| 00:55.24 | bleeter | Cruciformer: 'msg memoserv help' is your friend :) |
| 00:55.27 | Thunder_Child | i hate you Adys |
| 00:55.28 | bleeter | Adys: gnight mate :) |
| 00:55.34 | Cairenn | night Adys :) |
| 00:55.35 | Adys | your mom Thunder_Child |
| 00:55.41 | Thunder_Child | hates you to |
| 00:55.43 | Adys | any reason or is it just in your root? |
| 00:56.00 | Thunder_Child | huh? |
| 00:56.13 | Adys | Any reason you hate me now. |
| 00:56.22 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 00:56.26 | Adys | ok |
| 00:56.27 | Adys | bye! |
| 00:56.32 | Thunder_Child | seemed a fitting way to say GN |
| 00:56.39 | Thunder_Child | for me at least |
| 00:57.36 | bleeter | Cruciformer: if you send your question to jnwhiteh by memoserv he should be able to retrieve it even if his connection completely dies, he'll be told about the memo next login as well, etc. :) |
| 00:57.58 | Cruciformer | bleeter: cool thanks :) |
| 00:58.16 | bleeter | Cruciformer: welcome :) |
| 00:58.22 | Cruciformer | I also used my own memoserv ... courtesy of Bic and very finely ground trees :) |
| 00:59.10 | Thunder_Child | nature killer |
| 01:00.27 | Cruciformer | naturally |
| 01:00.35 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
| 01:01.40 | Thunder_Child | ~puns |
| 01:01.41 | purl | Puns will be shot on sight, and so will the people making them. |
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| 01:02.07 | Cruciformer | actually that was unintended |
| 01:02.23 | Thunder_Child | doesnt matter |
| 01:03.11 | Cruciformer | but if you shoot me, and Im part of nature, wouldnt that make you a nature killer too? |
| 01:04.13 | Cruciformer | and while youmull over a witty retort Im gonna go watch Hudson Hawk. Night all. |
| 01:04.32 | Thunder_Child | there are exceptions to every rule |
| 01:05.22 | Cruciformer | including that rule? |
| 01:05.41 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 01:05.59 | Thunder_Child | some rules have no exceptions |
| 01:06.07 | Nechckn | Exceptions to exceptions are the real bear. |
| 01:06.37 | Cruciformer | so by "every" you meant "most". Gotcha. |
| 01:07.00 | Thunder_Child | no, i meant every |
| 01:07.52 | Cruciformer | I could explain the phallusy (sic) behind your logic but I know you are already aware of it so I'll refrain. |
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| 01:08.43 | Cairenn | fallacy |
| 01:09.10 | Cruciformer | Cairenn: No, phallusy. "phallus" = penis. Thus a pun on "phallusy" as in being a dick about his logic :) |
| 01:09.22 | Cairenn | :p |
| 01:09.35 | Cruciformer | that *was* intentional :P |
| 01:10.06 | Cairenn | ah, my mistake, you typed (sic) but I saw (sp) |
| 01:10.07 | batbot | Cairenn, saw is correct. |
| 01:10.19 | Thunder_Child | *snicker* |
| 01:10.21 | Cairenn | smacks batbot |
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| 01:29.38 | Thunder_Child | waits impatiently for 3.2 |
| 01:29.58 | bleeter | I was waiting for SC2 and D3.. but no LAN so.. meh |
| 01:30.06 | bleeter | so I hear |
| 01:30.10 | Thunder_Child | you cant play online? |
| 01:31.10 | bleeter | going bush and LANning is great fun |
| 01:32.01 | Thunder_Child | A. there will prolly be a hacl for it post haste. B. you can simply do a private game on bnet for almost the same effect |
| 01:32.12 | Thunder_Child | s/cl/ck/ |
| 01:32.31 | Corrodias | i don't care about lan for d3, but i know RTS games have a long tradition of lan parties |
| 01:33.10 | bleeter | Corrodias: my mate has a shed in the middle of nowhere, people take tents n stuff, real kinda festival feel. great fun :) |
| 01:33.16 | Cide | dude |
| 01:33.29 | Cide | all lan parties are connected to the 'net these days |
| 01:33.37 | Cide | if yours isn't, learn to adapt |
| 01:33.48 | Corrodias | why learn to adapt when not buying sc2 is another option? |
| 01:34.06 | bleeter | Cide: feel free to research the net in australia so as to not look quite so ignorant :P |
| 01:34.10 | Corrodias | hopefully, the answer is "because it's awesome enough to be worth it" |
| 01:34.14 | Cide | if you want to not play a game simply because you want to play it with your buddies on a local area network without internet access, then you probably wouldn't enjoy it |
| 01:34.29 | Corrodias | well, you can assume all you want about what i would and wouldn't enjoy |
| 01:34.32 | Cide | if *that* tips you over towards not buying it |
| 01:34.46 | Corrodias | starcraft ain't the only rts in town |
| 01:35.01 | Thunder_Child | lies |
| 01:35.06 | Cide | no, but is your desire to play lan games without being connected to the net that great? |
| 01:35.10 | bleeter | Cide: go look at a map of tasmania. find the near-middle point in the map. then try and get anything beyond a 33k dialup connection near that point. |
| 01:35.30 | Corrodias | maybe. we'll see when the first couple weeks of sales come in. |
| 01:35.44 | bleeter | there's a reason it's called a LAN party, not a WAN party |
| 01:35.53 | Cide | it's a term whose meaning has changed |
| 01:36.00 | bleeter | I'm not stopping people from having WAN parties, all for it |
| 01:36.15 | Thunder_Child | oh the lack of LAN pissed people off alright but prolly not enough to keep them from buying |
| 01:36.47 | Cide | bleeter: you could design a protocol where the players connect directly without transmitting to/from bnet |
| 01:37.02 | Cide | which would (in theory) let people play over lan, as long as they have internet access to setup the game |
| 01:37.09 | bleeter | Cide: really? without tempting BLizz's legal dept.? |
| 01:37.24 | Cide | designing a protocol as in "blizzard could design the game to ..." |
| 01:37.44 | Corrodias | think they'll bother? |
| 01:37.51 | Cide | you'd still get the benefits of online key-checking |
| 01:38.09 | Cide | if they want it to be played competitively as much as they say they do, then maybe |
| 01:38.26 | Cide | playing with versus without latency is a huge factor |
| 01:39.11 | bleeter | I'd rather see the announcement sooner than later, though... I've half taken my bat n ball n started getting involved in other communities already |
| 01:39.43 | Cide | are you one of the tasmanians? |
| 01:40.04 | bleeter | price of fish? |
| 01:40.11 | Cide | hm? |
| 01:40.11 | Arrowmaster | i can tell you right now it wont be played as competitively without lan play, if blizzard isnt hosting all the servers then that means you need open ports to host a game, which you dont have a lans |
| 01:40.41 | Cide | huh? |
| 01:40.43 | Cide | that made no sense |
| 01:40.48 | Thunder_Child | ^^ |
| 01:41.18 | Cide | blizzard won't be hosting your lan games so you'd still need to |
| 01:41.22 | Arrowmaster | if blizzard isnt hosting all servers, like bnet d2 did but bnet sc1 didnt, then you need forwarded ports |
| 01:41.30 | Cide | unless routers allow lan traffic through ports? I dunno |
| 01:41.42 | Cide | forwarded ports isn't a huge deal |
| 01:41.54 | Arrowmaster | Cide: the ports still have to be forwarded for each person trying to host |
| 01:42.07 | Cide | yes |
| 01:42.10 | Cide | like any other game pretty much |
| 01:42.13 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: I know.. upnp! |
| 01:42.16 | bleeter | flees |
| 01:42.18 | Cide | it's not a new problem exactly |
| 01:42.26 | Arrowmaster | it is for lans |
| 01:42.31 | Cide | what? |
| 01:42.54 | Arrowmaster | large lans dont have to deal with that shit right now because the games they play all have lan play |
| 01:43.06 | Cide | if you're only playing with players on your same network, you could easily make bnet just accept/decline your request to host (based on cd keys) and then transform the game into a lan game |
| 01:43.41 | Cide | I don't know about the piracy implications but you can always just emulate a battle.net server anyway so piracy will exist |
| 01:43.46 | Arrowmaster | ...... |
| 01:43.57 | Arrowmaster | NAT makes all of that impossible |
| 01:44.02 | Cide | why? |
| 01:44.21 | bleeter | Cide: if you're going to accept piracy anyways, do away with the keys and allow LAN by default? |
| 01:44.29 | bleeter | shrugs |
| 01:44.31 | Arrowmaster | because bnet only sees one ip address for all of the people from the lan, so it cant let you switch over to hosting on the lan |
| 01:44.32 | Cide | piracy can't be avoided |
| 01:44.39 | Cide | limiting it is key |
| 01:44.40 | Arrowmaster | because the game doesnt have a lan server browser |
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| 01:45.53 | Cide | clearly the clients need to know the host's ip and the host needs to known the clients' |
| 01:45.54 | p3lim | i just started thorim hard mode |
| 01:45.55 | p3lim | wups |
| 01:46.06 | Cide | is it impossible to determine if an external ip is on the same network as you? |
| 01:46.09 | Arrowmaster | right, but thats not possible when they are behind a NAT |
| 01:46.44 | bleeter | and one then has to rely on upnp |
| 01:46.47 | Arrowmaster | Cide: yes due to multiple subnets being behind a single NAT |
| 01:46.50 | bleeter | see previous upnp discussion |
| 01:46.53 | bleeter | no/yes? |
| 01:47.16 | Cide | I'm not good at networking so I'll take your word for it |
| 01:47.22 | Cide | I don't see it as an impossible task though |
| 01:47.26 | Cide | I mean |
| 01:47.33 | Arrowmaster | for blizzard to make it work for any lan competition they will have to put more work into it than they would have to to just add lan play |
| 01:47.49 | Cide | you could implement a lan browser which requires clients to authenticate to bnet before joining a lan game |
| 01:47.55 | Cide | Arrowmaster: of course |
| 01:47.58 | Arrowmaster | right but they arent doing that |
| 01:48.04 | Cide | but adding lan play means easy piracy |
| 01:48.12 | Cide | so they obviously want to make people connect to bnet |
| 01:48.25 | Cide | but they only need the authentication part |
| 01:49.19 | Arrowmaster | they said 'no lan play' not 'no offline lan play, but online lan play is ok' |
| 01:49.42 | Cide | I'm not so sure |
| 01:50.02 | bleeter | I am |
| 01:50.16 | Cide | given their given reasons (combat piracy) all they want to avoid is the non-authenticated play anyway |
| 01:50.32 | bleeter | you say LAN is now meaning more WAN... a marketing thing that's taken place. Blizz's marketing has the LAN/WAN people believing that LAN play will be impossible |
| 01:50.38 | Arrowmaster | they might change it due to the outcry though but initally it was 'no lan play period' |
| 01:51.01 | Cide | yes, but lan play in games means offline play |
| 01:51.06 | bleeter | can't be all 'but that's what the market thinks' on one hand, and on the other 'oh the marketplace is wrong in what they understood' sorta thing |
| 01:51.11 | Cide | whereas most lans do have internet access today |
| 01:51.12 | bleeter | Cide: not anymore :P |
| 01:51.18 | Cide | bleeter: since when? |
| 01:51.39 | bleeter | Cide: since LANs didn't have to have online play? |
| 01:51.43 | Arrowmaster | Cide: most lans do but using the internet router for lan play is bad |
| 01:52.01 | Arrowmaster | if you connect to the external ip then all game traffic must go through that router |
| 01:52.23 | Arrowmaster | imagine the router a 5000 player korean lan would need |
| 01:52.26 | Cide | I'm sure that can be avoided? |
| 01:52.35 | Cide | add your normal offline play lan browser |
| 01:52.36 | bleeter | I'll be screwed if I have to go get a redundant line and balancers just to play a freakin LAN with three mates |
| 01:52.42 | Cide | to access it, you need to connect to bnet temporarily |
| 01:52.45 | Cide | to validate your key |
| 01:52.49 | Cide | what's the problem? |
| 01:53.01 | Arrowmaster | the problem is thats not what blizzard is doing |
| 01:53.06 | Cide | it's a solution |
| 01:53.07 | Corrodias | that's a theory you came up with, isn't it? you don't know they're just going for authentication. |
| 01:53.14 | Cide | of course |
| 01:53.18 | Cide | they may very well just go with the bnet hosting deal |
| 01:53.25 | Cide | but then they're not supporting esports at all |
| 01:53.27 | Corrodias | it might not be terrible if they did that |
| 01:53.45 | Cide | playing with latency is unacceptable and people will just stick to sc1 or find another game to play |
| 01:53.53 | Cide | I'm just saying there are solutions |
| 01:53.56 | bleeter | bottom line is, marketplace is confused as to what their intentions are, and people are already turned off *before* the game's released. |
| 01:54.06 | Cide | agreed |
| 01:54.11 | Arrowmaster | if they did that then they will be locking all serious lan competition in just like they have with WoW, where they show up and provide the servers |
| 01:54.18 | Cide | but I think a lot of it is unjustified is what I'm saying |
| 01:55.01 | bleeter | Cide: a lot of stuff in this world in unjustified, doesn't stop it from happening etc. |
| 01:55.12 | Cide | /shrug |
| 01:55.16 | bleeter | Cide: if Blizz were just a little bit clearer... |
| 01:55.19 | bleeter | heh /shrug too ;) |
| 01:55.23 | Arrowmaster | also while most lans do have internet, its not up 100% of the time |
| 01:55.27 | Cide | if people are crying over trivial things I'm not the one to care |
| 01:55.46 | Cide | bleeter: yeah, they could communicate their intentions better |
| 01:55.59 | Arrowmaster | ive been part of the staff of many major lans and the internet connection always fails atleast once |
| 01:56.24 | Cide | ya, that's possible |
| 01:56.37 | Cide | but that would affect all online games |
| 01:56.49 | bleeter | Cide: I tried explaining that my LANs are a bit of a social highlight. I'm sorry you consider such stuff 'trivial things' |
| 01:57.00 | Cide | I don't |
| 01:57.04 | Cide | you're misinterpreting |
| 01:57.10 | Arrowmaster | think of the outcry when that happens during a world championship game while one person clearly has the advantage but they have to restart |
| 01:57.34 | Cide | Arrowmaster: well, the online play solution is not acceptable for world championship levels of play anyway |
| 01:57.41 | Cide | so the problem is an illusion |
| 01:58.07 | Cide | they'd have to come up with something else where internet access isn't a requirement throughout the whole game |
| 01:58.13 | Arrowmaster | its bad even for a championship round at a small 500 person or less lan |
| 01:58.20 | Cide | true |
| 01:59.13 | Cide | bleeter: I consider the lack of lan play for lans without internet access trivial |
| 02:00.01 | Cide | I'm not saying the players should have to be connected to bnet throughout the session (which may or may not happen, who knows what blizzard is doing, but that's my standpoint) |
| 02:00.42 | bleeter | Cide: well, it's an issue for me and my mates and we've practically given up on Blizz, is all I'm saying |
| 02:01.05 | Cide | yeah, I get that you have, but not *why* you have :) |
| 02:01.12 | Cide | of course |
| 02:01.25 | bleeter | Cide: why? 'coz Blizz have failed at communicating wtf they're up to |
| 02:01.36 | Cide | lack of communication from blizzard is hardly new |
| 02:01.41 | bleeter | and given the history of Blizz's communication being.. patchy... we just can't be screwed dealing with it anymore ;) |
| 02:01.42 | Corrodias | we'll see what they decide, in the end |
| 02:01.58 | bleeter | we're like 'omg.. with one game it's bad.. and.. SC2.. D3.. nah screwit' |
| 02:02.01 | Corrodias | i'm sure they're aware of the issues, and what they feel is most important will decide how it goes |
| 02:02.16 | Corrodias | but it won't matter for d3, in all likelihood |
| 02:02.31 | Corrodias | i don't think any significant market share seriously plays that on LAN anyway |
| 02:02.35 | bleeter | Corrodias: lack of communication n stuff, will still go on |
| 02:03.00 | Corrodias | bashok gives a lot of communication about d3, and it's not even near done yet |
| 02:03.03 | Corrodias | *bashiok |
| 02:03.07 | Cide | but most people just rant, not boycott ;) |
| 02:03.16 | bleeter | Corrodias: hence why I'm saying can kinda still put up with it (although the lack of comms over 'instance unavail' was a serious annoyance for a while)... and lack of comms about oceanic reliabilty etc. etc. |
| 02:03.20 | Corrodias | they're not the most talkative company, but they aren't the most silent either |
| 02:03.43 | bleeter | Cide: I'm sure Blizz will find more suckers to milk for a while ;) |
| 02:03.58 | bleeter | it's the nature of the gaming beast, tbh |
| 02:03.58 | Cide | most certainly |
| 02:04.04 | Corrodias | the games -are- good |
| 02:05.35 | bleeter | Corrodias: how many new games have blizz had in the past 10 years? |
| 02:05.52 | Arrowmaster | 2? |
| 02:05.53 | Corrodias | not sure. 2 or 3? |
| 02:06.04 | Arrowmaster | when did diablo2 come out? |
| 02:06.24 | Arrowmaster | and are you counting expansions? |
| 02:06.47 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: I don't even count '2' as a new game :P |
| 02:07.33 | Bruners | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_entertainment |
| 02:07.35 | bleeter | kinda like saying Return of the Jedi is a new franchise because the story's progressed a little... even thoguh it's largely a continuation of an expected plot, etc. etc. |
| 02:07.55 | Corrodias | if you have a strict definition of "new" games that excludes sequels, i believe it's probably 1, if that. |
| 02:09.04 | bleeter | put it this way, if you're operating a casino, and say.. blackjack. change the chips and the deck and the dealer and position of the table and price of drinks... same game ;) |
| 02:09.49 | Corrodias | in that sense, d2 is little enough like d1 to be a new game. |
| 02:11.37 | bleeter | ok, fair call.. now this is where I was going with my 'point' (if there was one) |
| 02:12.33 | bleeter | look at what blizz's release timeline is, and compare to say what's going on with regards to Steam (technical merits [or lack thereof] aside)... |
| 02:13.34 | bleeter | bnet and steam are both DRM systems to some degree. there are a shedload more games on steam that we can LAN with than will be on Bnet. |
| 02:14.16 | bleeter | if Bnet won't allow reasonable LAN, as kinda described above etc., we'll just stick to Steam stuff and BNet will go the way of W95's Microsoft Network, for all we (and maybe other LANners) care |
| 02:14.35 | Dagmar | At least both systems are fine with the idea that you don't necessarily have to hang onto anything but your licence informaiton |
| 02:15.02 | Dagmar | When you can dl the entire client, in some cases automagically, after a long absence, it's huge value add |
| 02:15.05 | bleeter | BNet stuff will ahve to be good out of the blocks, with clear precise information probably before hand, to keep people interested. this isn't the early days of the 'net, after all... yes, the marketplace have moved on. |
| 02:16.00 | bleeter | this 'won't do lan' "issue" *is* an issue, afaict, in the market place that Blizz really need to sort out before SC2 launches, imo. |
| 02:16.44 | Dagmar | How often do people play across LANs anymore, really? |
| 02:17.20 | Arrowmaster | go ask the koreans |
| 02:17.50 | airtonix | what is the phrase? we are in this scenario because there was no better alternative? |
| 02:17.53 | Dagmar | They might actually be a different situation, but they have better connectivity by far than most people in the US |
| 02:18.22 | Dagmar | Building to building FDDI is a bit more robust than a 10Mb connection off of coax |
| 02:18.33 | airtonix | you know neverwinter nights allowed for dungeons runs via phone line/ lan or internet |
| 02:18.51 | Dagmar | That was kinda weird actually |
| 02:19.28 | Industrial | its a money move. they are doing it to avoid people pirating it AND playing it online. You can play SC1 over vlan |
| 02:19.44 | Arrowmaster | except it wont effect piracy |
| 02:20.09 | Dagmar | It'll get the casual pirates off the fence and digging into their wallets most likely |
| 02:20.39 | bleeter | wallets to pay private servers just like they do now, eh? lol |
| 02:20.40 | Arrowmaster | Industrial: i hope you mean vpn and not vlan |
| 02:21.05 | Dagmar | Wallets to get legit copies so they don't have to keep mucking about with circumventing the protection |
| 02:21.12 | Industrial | er, yes |
| 02:21.39 | Dagmar | With many, many gamers being old enough to have jobs, that $35-65 isn't so much of an issue anymore |
| 02:21.47 | Arrowmaster | the casual pirates wouldnt pirate it anyway since they wont be able to play online, most casuals dont play lan much |
| 02:21.57 | Arrowmaster | and all cacuals are too stupid to do stuff like vpn |
| 02:22.26 | Dagmar | There's practically turnkey VPN tools even under Windows now tho |
| 02:22.47 | Dagmar | It just takes one person with enough clue to set up the host they link to, and from there it's just a matter of clicking |
| 02:22.56 | Industrial | on the topic of sc, anyone seen Avalon MSL Ro16 D1 Flash vs Kwanro 9 Jul 09 Triple Comm ? |
| 02:23.01 | Industrial | I'm going tow atch it now :D |
| 02:23.57 | tekkub | http://certaintylabs.com/ |
| 02:23.58 | tekkub | hehe |
| 02:24.24 | Dagmar | Damn that sticker graphic rocks |
| 02:24.46 | bleeter | anyone know where I may be able to locate a WinXP driver for a Philips OV518 based webcam? It's for my father so I can get cheap webcam on his computer |
| 02:25.42 | Dagmar | bleeter: Pray you can find a brand name on it |
| 02:26.08 | bleeter | *Philips* OV518 |
| 02:26.42 | Dagmar | I figured it was one of the knockoffs |
| 02:28.11 | Dagmar | I used to "risk it" when I'd see webcams on sale |
| 02:28.26 | bleeter | well you figured wrong |
| 02:28.34 | Dagmar | There's a lot of chinese knockoffs that use that chipset, or I should say, sinister variants of that chipset |
| 02:28.40 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 02:28.41 | purl | ~pong |
| 02:30.38 | Shirik | man, there are some really strange people on wikipedia :/ |
| 02:30.55 | bleeter | Dagmar: yes, I encountered all this back in my reverse engineering days. hence my specification of manufaturer and chipset, least anyone get confused. |
| 02:31.06 | Nechckn | lol, watching mythbusters popping corn with a laser =) |
| 02:31.14 | bleeter | Shirik: strange.. like.. YOU?! :P |
| 02:31.15 | Dagmar | bleeter: I'm assuming you've checked Philip |
| 02:31.18 | Dagmar | 's site. |
| 02:31.23 | Shirik | I'm one of the most sane people there |
| 02:31.26 | Shirik | How's that for scary? |
| 02:31.32 | Dagmar | They've got driver stuff up for as far back as 2000, but not much beyond that I'm afraid |
| 02:31.46 | Dagmar | If it's a Toucam you're in luck |
| 02:32.07 | Shirik | There has to be something really messed up with you to change the "Infant" page to include the swastika |
| 02:32.22 | Arrowmaster | somebody tell me its ok to place this $3,359.09 order with newegg |
| 02:32.31 | Shirik | yes |
| 02:32.41 | Shirik | unless it's a camera |
| 02:32.45 | Shirik | then you need about another $1000 |
| 02:32.45 | Dagmar | it's got my address for the shipping destination, right? |
| 02:33.18 | Dagmar | I mean, if you've tallied up that much in the cart there, you probably already know whether or not you should be spending that money. |
| 02:33.51 | Dagmar | That's about twice what I spend with them per year on average tho |
| 02:34.10 | bleeter | Dagmar: if I hand't turned up http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/en/au/consumer/cc/_categoryid_WEBCAMS_CA_AU_CONSUMER/ .. do you think I'd be asking? |
| 02:34.45 | Arrowmaster | no its an i7 920 computer with 8x 1tb samsung f1 raid class harddrives (and another 8x segate 500gb drives for free) and a 3ware 9650se-8lpml sata raid controller |
| 02:34.50 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, well linky it |
| 02:35.05 | Dagmar | Well, being that that URL comes up blank for me, you might want to look at http://www.care.philips.com/support/catalog/products.jsp?_dyncharset=UTF-8&sel=10&categoryid=WEBCAMS_SU_US_CARE&show5Yrs=false&navCount=7&navAction=push&page=5&sortValue=startDate&title=Webcams&userLanguage=en&userCountry=us&_requestid=140686 |
| 02:35.55 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Hehe you're gonna need a bigger power supply |
| 02:36.01 | Dagmar | Something with lights and a bell. ;) |
| 02:36.12 | Arrowmaster | 900watt not big enough? |
| 02:36.32 | Dagmar | I should hope so |
| 02:36.44 | Dagmar | Allocating "the usual" 25W per drive |
| 02:36.50 | Arrowmaster | and no im not putting all 8 of those free hdds in too, was going to use 2 of them in a raid1 as my system drive |
| 02:37.04 | bleeter | Dagmar: yes, well in the intervening time (about 60seconds after you asked me 'can you find a brand name'), I have managed to find it... thankyou for playing |
| 02:37.27 | Dagmar | bleeter: Well, you're welcome then |
| 02:37.42 | Dagmar | I should have said "model name" but whatever |
| 02:38.55 | ccox | crap, "authenticating" delay again |
| 02:42.25 | bleeter | model name's fairly easy as well... lsusb(1) ftw! |
| 02:45.03 | Arrowmaster | if i could figure out how to get a public link for my shared wishlist on newegg i would link what im trying to let myself buy |
| 02:46.19 | Arrowmaster | ah i think i got it |
| 02:46.22 | Arrowmaster | http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=15889767 |
| 02:46.34 | Dagmar | Well, when you figure out how to make lsusb reach across the internet to J. Random person's PC, maybe you'll be able to get more useful help |
| 02:47.50 | Arrowmaster | this purchase is going to use up about 1/4th of my money which is why im still having trouble justifing it |
| 02:48.29 | Dagmar | You're not going to add three more video cards? Heh |
| 02:48.42 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:49.00 | Arrowmaster | going to be running linux anyway |
| 02:50.11 | Dagmar | That's the first motherboard I've seen with side-insert sata ports |
| 02:50.26 | Arrowmaster | most have that now |
| 02:50.56 | Arrowmaster | due to huge ass video cards in 3way sli |
| 02:51.31 | Dagmar | Yeah a friend of mine got one of those one-piece SLI cards last week |
| 02:51.35 | Dagmar | The thing is beastly huge |
| 02:51.37 | ccox | could shave some cost by using the motherboard sata controller (unless you plan on using more than 6 drives) |
| 02:51.50 | Dagmar | ccox: I'm assuming he actually plans on using the RAID on the card |
| 02:52.00 | Dagmar | Motherboard RAID tends to be lackluster |
| 02:52.05 | ccox | true |
| 02:52.13 | ccox | but if the budget is tight... |
| 02:52.15 | Dagmar | he's got the battery unit and everything. :) |
| 02:52.22 | ccox | the card could be added later |
| 02:52.28 | Arrowmaster | if i wasnt using the hardware raid card then i would be using software raid |
| 02:52.33 | Dagmar | Pfft. "RAID" and "budget" don't exactly belong in the same sentence |
| 02:52.36 | Arrowmaster | the card cannot be added later |
| 02:52.56 | ccox | ok |
| 02:53.04 | Arrowmaster | without destroying all data on the drives atleast |
| 02:53.15 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: You mean you don't want to back up ~6Tb of data just to restore it twenty minutes later? |
| 02:53.57 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt have anywhere to back it up to |
| 02:54.30 | Arrowmaster | and it would be 4.5tb |
| 02:54.50 | Arrowmaster | 8 drive raid 6 with one acting as a hotswap |
| 02:54.54 | Dagmar | Hmm... You could maybe gzip it onto those free drives spanned together. :) |
| 02:57.12 | Dagmar | I keep hoping someone will come up with a breakthrough in non-volatile storage media |
| 02:57.22 | ccox | WTB Bliz a working authentication system |
| 02:57.44 | Dagmar | Seems like we've gone too long with the simplest way to back up disks being to copy stuff to more disks |
| 02:57.52 | Dagmar | LTO isn't exactly a happenin' solution |
| 02:58.40 | bleeter | correct answer is: don't need drivers, you've got a USB issue, prolly just need to bounce the machine with the cam installed to fix it. |
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| 03:27.19 | Nechckn | http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/colony/colony.html looks pretty interesting |
| 03:27.57 | Nechckn | Perhaps not exactly likely, but an interesting idea |
| 03:46.15 | p3lim | Is there a list somewhere with new API functions added in 3.2? |
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| 03:59.02 | Shirik | I has lasagna!!! |
| 04:00.18 | ScytheBlade1 | You still drunk? |
| 04:00.22 | Shirik | uh, no |
| 04:00.23 | Cairenn | I has pictures of Italy all uploaded now. They aren't all captioned yet or anything, but they're there: http://cairenn-mmorpg.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=19 |
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| 04:25.01 | Thunder_Child | pjiffyq is fail |
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| 04:32.35 | Thunder_Child | The first episode of "Joanie Loves CHachi" was the highest rated american progam in the history of korean tv, a country where "Chachi" translates to "penis" |
| 04:33.13 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 04:37.14 | Dagmar | I'd have watched it just to see |
| 04:38.28 | Dagmar | I mean, if Korea started showing something called "Cindy Loves The C**k" wouldn't you watch it just to find out? |
| 04:38.56 | Dagmar | 'cuz you know the producers would have to have great big brass ones |
| 04:45.28 | Thunder_Child | interesting, "leg godt" is the origin of legos |
| 04:52.03 | Cide | christ bazaar is buggy. either that or I'm consistently doing the wrong thing |
| 04:53.49 | Shirik | ow.... |
| 04:53.52 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lopadotemachoselachogaleokranioleipsanodrimhypotrimmatosilphioparaomelitokatakechymenokichlepikossyphophattoperisteralektryonoptekephalliokigklopeleiolagoiosiraiobaphetraganopterygon |
| 04:54.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Liddell and Scott translate this as "name of a dish compounded of all kinds of dainties, fish, flesh, fowl, and sauces." |
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| 05:16.17 | Arrowmaster | i know that microwaving cheese in the little pastic containers that come with breadsticks and pizza is a bad idea, yet for some reason i still do it |
| 05:16.30 | Dagmar | Foil lined? |
| 05:18.54 | Thunder_Child | they prolly melt |
| 05:19.12 | Arrowmaster | melt |
| 05:19.18 | Arrowmaster | and the cheese is still cold |
| 05:19.26 | Dagmar | Weird |
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| 05:30.35 | Shirik | wtb more talk here |
| 05:30.41 | Shirik | Cide: Tabs are good. Discuss. |
| 05:32.02 | Shirik | wow, you all suck |
| 05:32.12 | Cide | screw you |
| 05:32.18 | Cide | I'm off to bed |
| 05:32.53 | Shirik | :( |
| 05:34.24 | Thunder_Child | it's the weekend Shirik, you should be used to it |
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| 05:35.01 | Shirik | I don't know what weekends are like anymore |
| 05:35.06 | Shirik | weekends are normally my day to sleep |
| 05:35.08 | Thunder_Child | dead |
| 05:49.39 | Shirik | well let's undeadify it!! |
| 05:50.39 | Thunder_Child | i am not a decromancer |
| 05:50.45 | Thunder_Child | necromancer* |
| 05:52.08 | Shirik | A denecromancer |
| 05:52.11 | Shirik | now that would be a fun job |
| 05:52.17 | Shirik | I guess that's what we are in wotlk |
| 05:52.22 | Shirik | un-necromancing |
| 05:52.40 | Thunder_Child | meh, we dont have pastamancer here to join in |
| 05:52.48 | Thunder_Child | ~seen pastamancer |
| 05:52.49 | purl | pastamancer is currently on #curseforge (14h 58m 21s), last said: 'http://tweetcraft.codeplex.com/ haha, wtf'. |
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| 05:53.25 | Shirik | Maybe Esamynn|Away can help |
| 05:53.40 | Thunder_Child | how can he,,,,he is away! |
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| 05:53.48 | Thunder_Child | s/,,,,/..../ |
| 05:53.59 | Thunder_Child | though kd3 might be able to |
| 05:54.00 | Shirik | ah yes |
| 05:54.08 | Shirik | kd3 will disconnect if he tries to help us |
| 05:54.14 | Thunder_Child | point |
| 05:56.21 | kd3 | sighs |
| 05:56.32 | kd3 | think it's time to go BOFH on my roommates |
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| 06:00.24 | Arrowmaster | what are they doing? |
| 06:00.37 | kd3 | getting me dropped from the net, whatever it is |
| 06:00.40 | kd3 | probably torrenting |
| 06:00.51 | Arrowmaster | get a better router |
| 06:00.55 | Dagmar | Time for "exuberant" rate limiting |
| 06:02.00 | kd3 | meh, I've got a wrt54g... it may well be time to move up to something more commercial |
| 06:02.26 | Arrowmaster | how much memory does it have? |
| 06:03.25 | Arrowmaster | if its a v4 or earlier you could flash a decent firmware onto it |
| 06:04.12 | kd3 | it's a wrt54g2 1.0... wikipedia says 16mb, dd-wrt compatible |
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| 06:04.29 | kd3 | considers |
| 06:04.30 | Arrowmaster | dd-wrt can fit on one with 2mb |
| 06:04.43 | Arrowmaster | i use tomato on my wrt54gl |
| 06:04.56 | Arrowmaster | its got awesome QoS |
| 06:07.18 | Shirik | kd3: In all honesty, I just take matters into my own hand and make my own computer the router |
| 06:07.21 | Shirik | full control |
| 06:07.51 | kd3 | I'd do that but I'd need a wireless card instead of the dinky usb stick I'm using now |
| 06:08.04 | kd3 | that's the main reason why I'm using the linksys box downstairs |
| 06:15.42 | Thunder_Child | wow...your acting skills must be rather one dimensonal if i can detect it through massive ammounts of makeup |
| 06:17.04 | Shirik | ...huh? |
| 06:17.46 | Thunder_Child | the guy who played Zefram Cochrane was in an earilier ep of TNG and i was able to tell it was him through his actions |
| 06:18.05 | Thunder_Child | because they were the exact bloody same |
| 06:18.05 | Dagmar | Nah, they seldom do anything to mask the voices |
| 06:18.10 | Dagmar | I tweak on that all the time |
| 06:18.17 | Thunder_Child | not the voice, the manerisms |
| 06:18.19 | Dagmar | They could be talking from inside a cardboard box |
| 06:21.54 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: did you watch stargate? |
| 06:22.02 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, yes |
| 06:22.56 | Arrowmaster | you are complaining about somebody in TNG that was wearing heavy makeup, do i have to remind you of richard kind? |
| 06:23.16 | Thunder_Child | it seems you do |
| 06:23.38 | Arrowmaster | he must play atleast 5+ different characters |
| 06:24.43 | Thunder_Child | well he seems to be good enough that i didnt notice |
| 06:24.53 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 06:24.56 | Arrowmaster | he stands out |
| 06:24.58 | Thunder_Child | like i said, it was only because the acting was virtually the same that i noticed |
| 06:25.16 | Arrowmaster | richard kind always stands out |
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| 06:28.37 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, the movie or tv show? |
| 06:29.20 | Arrowmaster | he was in the movie and both shows, although never credited in sg1 afaik but i swear he played atleast 5 different characters in sg1 |
| 06:30.07 | Thunder_Child | huh, the best man at his wedding was clooney |
| 06:30.37 | Thunder_Child | i really liked him in spin city |
| 06:31.29 | Dagmar | Wow that is a MESS |
| 06:31.34 | Dagmar | Finally got to ToC |
| 06:46.36 | Thunder_Child | i can not wait till i can use feces with enjoyment again |
| 06:46.50 | Arrowmaster | ... |
| 06:47.23 | Thunder_Child | i have decided to use alternate meanings to screw with people |
| 06:47.34 | Thunder_Child | that translates into play with shit |
| 06:48.12 | Dagmar | That doesn't make it not a disturbing thing to say |
| 06:48.29 | Thunder_Child | shit is slang for stuff |
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| 06:49.43 | Dagmar | Whee. Crashy crash crash goes the 5-man |
| 06:49.53 | Dagmar | I guess four crash dumps is enough for one night |
| 06:50.01 | Bruners | is there @interface@ thingie to use with the packager? |
| 06:50.12 | Cairenn | wonders if TC has noticed yet |
| 06:50.24 | Thunder_Child | i did.... |
| 06:50.27 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 06:50.33 | Thunder_Child | but some people need it spelled out :( |
| 06:50.38 | Thunder_Child | ty anyway |
| 06:50.40 | Bruners | wrong window |
| 06:50.53 | Cairenn | they wouldn't, so figured that was better than nothing |
| 06:51.03 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 06:51.15 | Thunder_Child | didnt know they had...morals or anything |
| 06:51.31 | Thunder_Child | s/morals/decency/ |
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| 07:02.21 | Wobin | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SqhhJb_P3Kk/R51k_EPMNaI/AAAAAAAAALc/1sZep3NiP08/s1600-h/Cousin_tree.png |
| 07:02.25 | Wobin | Now I understand |
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| 07:09.03 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, that is rather handy |
| 07:13.35 | Thunder_Child | http://kotaku.com/5312053/analyst-sees-starcraft-ii-inevitably-delayed-to-2010 |
| 07:14.06 | Dagmar | Man he's going to get some serious hate mail |
| 07:15.46 | End | what |
| 07:15.47 | End | the |
| 07:15.48 | End | fuck |
| 07:15.56 | End | I have the hamster dance tune stuck in my head |
| 07:16.14 | End | I'm not even sure how that happened |
| 07:16.25 | Wobin | that's a bit random =P |
| 07:17.48 | Thunder_Child | ..... http://g4tv.com/videos/39802/Video-Game-Girl---Nerf-Herders-Parry-Gripp-Music-Video/ |
| 07:19.25 | Wobin | parry grip is the best 'unforgettable cute tune' writer ever |
| 07:25.03 | Wobin | bleeter: listening to the hottest100? |
| 07:25.08 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:25.13 | Wobin | down to number 6 |
| 07:25.19 | Wobin | Bohemian Rhapsody |
| 07:25.28 | Thunder_Child | throws a playstation at Wobin |
| 07:25.33 | Thunder_Child | err.. |
| 07:25.38 | Thunder_Child | burns Fisker's house down |
| 07:25.41 | Thunder_Child | better |
| 07:25.48 | Wobin | woo! Free playstation! |
| 07:28.37 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:28.44 | Fisker | stop burning my house down :( |
| 07:28.56 | Thunder_Child | burns Fisker's house down |
| 07:28.59 | VonhintenHOME` | burnin' down the house! |
| 07:29.09 | Fisker | you are my enemy Thunder_Child |
| 07:29.22 | Thunder_Child | http://battletech.catalystgamelabs.com/2009/07/09/mektek-net-to-distribute-mechwarrior-for-free-on-battletech-com/ |
| 07:29.34 | Thunder_Child | burns Fisker's house down |
| 07:31.43 | Thunder_Child | mmmmmm http://kotaku.com/5311383/first-command--conquer-4-screenshot |
| 07:32.34 | Thunder_Child | http://kotaku.com/5311361/the-elder-scrolls-ii-daggerfall-goes-free |
| 07:32.48 | End | C&C4 makes me think of TA |
| 07:33.46 | Thunder_Child | TA was pure garbage |
| 07:33.51 | Thunder_Child | and i'm not picky |
| 07:34.51 | End | TA was win :( |
| 07:35.35 | End | although why people seemed to care about it suddenly so long after it came out kinda confused me |
| 07:36.01 | End | I didn't really like supreme commander though |
| 07:36.16 | End | although that might have been because it didn't run on my machine |
| 07:36.30 | Thunder_Child | i think it had a good idea but needed better execution |
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| 07:45.00 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, http://gizmodo.com/5050819/canon-5d-mark-iis-full-hd-video-is-so-stunning-our-eyes-explode |
| 07:45.08 | Shirik | lmao |
| 07:45.25 | Shirik | oh I've seen that already |
| 07:45.28 | Shirik | yeah it's amazing |
| 07:45.54 | ccox | old news |
| 07:46.09 | Thunder_Child | so are you ccox |
| 07:46.22 | ccox | in a few ways, yeah |
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| 07:56.00 | Thunder_Child | wow, thats rather impressive http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfBlUQguvyw&feature=player_embedded |
| 07:56.10 | Thunder_Child | the video, not the music per se |
| 08:00.54 | ccox | yeah, that took some planning - and a lot of editing... |
| 08:01.40 | Wobin | yeah, I love that video |
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| 08:07.11 | Industrial | Thunder_Child: awesome |
| 08:22.16 | End | I'm watching a CNN video of a youtube video |
| 08:22.18 | End | wtf |
| 08:22.35 | Wobin | meta |
| 08:23.10 | End | and of course, the CNN camera is a little jerky, and so is the youtube video that they are showing... |
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| 08:36.11 | Industrial | and I bet they dont have the youtube video maximized |
| 08:43.19 | Wobin | Cairenn|afk: http://beatonna.livejournal.com/109102.html |
| 08:44.04 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 08:44.47 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 08:45.11 | Wobin | Fisker: it's possibly a bit too cultured a joke for you =P |
| 08:48.24 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 08:48.25 | purl | ~pong |
| 08:58.47 | batrick | Shirik: ping |
| 09:00.00 | Shirik | batrick: pong |
| 09:01.17 | Shirik | ok fine fu too |
| 09:04.42 | batrick | i was wondering if you would like to play chess |
| 09:09.24 | Shirik | mehbeh |
| 09:09.37 | Shirik | I'm busy reverting edits on Wikipedia |
| 09:09.50 | batrick | a noble pursuit |
| 09:10.01 | Shirik | like this one I just did where someone posted that "Those who have dreads become physically enhanced in everything they do." |
| 09:10.08 | batrick | there are 12 year olds who would be happy to do it for you |
| 09:10.45 | Shirik | anyway |
| 09:10.47 | Shirik | umm |
| 09:11.34 | Shirik | my internet's been cutting out like every 5 minutes, I'm not sure how well it would work |
| 09:11.43 | Shirik | somehow I stay on IRC though |
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| 09:13.14 | batrick | up to you |
| 09:14.47 | cbreak|evil | high timeout? :) |
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| 09:25.54 | Shirik | waves goodbye to the internet again |
| 09:26.02 | Shirik | oh it's back |
| 09:26.32 | Shirik | I really think my roommates must be downloading something or I dunno |
| 09:26.54 | batrick | poison their arp caches for when we play |
| 09:27.40 | jnwhiteh | Cruciformer: whats up |
| 09:27.57 | Shirik | you know, batrick, that's actually worse |
| 09:28.12 | batrick | ? |
| 09:28.14 | Shirik | I ran wireshark one day on the network, and the router we're using get's severely pissed off anytime anything disappears |
| 09:28.31 | Shirik | it starts sending out ARP "who has" requests like 5 times a second |
| 09:28.35 | Shirik | until the IP comes back |
| 09:28.52 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 09:29.07 | Shirik | D-Link; I shouldn't be surprised |
| 09:29.09 | cncfanatics | Now that's one weird router |
| 09:29.25 | Shirik | I assume it would stop eventually, but it persisted for at least 30 minutes |
| 09:29.27 | batrick | i have a dlink i am really happy with |
| 09:29.43 | batrick | what router do you have shirik |
| 09:29.50 | Shirik | not mine technically |
| 09:29.53 | Shirik | but D-Link GamerLounge |
| 09:30.12 | cncfanatics | So, when a computer shuts down it sends who has requests till it's back on ? oO |
| 09:30.28 | batrick | probably only if the computer had open connections |
| 09:30.33 | Shirik | pretty much, cncfanatics |
| 09:30.36 | Shirik | that's how I noticed it before |
| 09:30.40 | cncfanatics | Fail |
| 09:30.40 | Shirik | not like I kicked them off before |
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| 09:38.53 | Shirik | bye bye internet |
| 09:38.59 | Shirik | should make a spinoff of that song "bye bye beautiful" |
| 09:40.27 | Shirik | I feel like kd3 |
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| 09:56.37 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
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| 10:03.05 | Cruciformer | jnwhiteh: I just woke up. you still there? |
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| 10:08.04 | TopTop18 | Cruciformer, he's probably here in the evening for you(and me) |
| 10:08.37 | Cruciformer | TopTop18: I think we're close to the same time, coz Im in south africa (GMT+2) |
| 10:08.53 | TopTop18 | Netherlands, GMT +1 |
| 10:08.58 | Cruciformer | plus he said "whats up" 30 mins ago to me ... I think he just stepped out. |
| 10:09.09 | TopTop18 | Lolo could be xD |
| 10:09.18 | TopTop18 | They're in the US I think |
| 10:09.22 | Cruciformer | As ek afrikaans praat kan jy my verstaan? |
| 10:09.30 | TopTop18 | Ja |
| 10:09.44 | Cruciformer | oh I though jnwhiteh was in England. |
| 10:09.51 | TopTop18 | Hmm no idea |
| 10:10.05 | TopTop18 | Well I see him talking mostly in evenings |
| 10:10.05 | Cruciformer | Its nothing urgent I'll see himw hen I do :) |
| 10:10.28 | TopTop18 | :D what's it about? |
| 10:10.46 | Cruciformer | adding a new mtype to wowprogramming.com and editing function signatures |
| 10:11.22 | TopTop18 | Okay, Don't know what you eman, but okay xD |
| 10:11.52 | Cruciformer | :) He will. |
| 10:12.58 | Fisker | destroys Cruciformer |
| 10:13.19 | Cruciformer | resists |
| 10:13.30 | TopTop18 | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
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| 10:37.05 | Shirik | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large hyphen |
| 10:43.21 | Fisker | why so mean :( |
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| 10:54.57 | Shirik | because I have your hyphen |
| 10:55.00 | Shirik | and I'm not giving it back |
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| 10:58.45 | batrick | wishes we had moderators in #lua |
| 10:59.30 | foxlit | wishes for less packet loss. |
| 11:00.05 | Fisker | wishes for moar packet loss, no moderators in #lua and a nice hyphen from Shirik |
| 11:05.06 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 11:05.09 | Fisker | give me back my hyphen |
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| 11:05.53 | Cruciformer | shuddup about your hypen already or I'll steal your apostrophe |
| 11:07.16 | Fisker | i have none |
| 11:07.34 | foxlit | Just threaten to take away his "k". Problem solved. |
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| 11:10.23 | Dezzimal | say, was there a change with the combatlog to handle tracking whose absorption shield is absorbing what in 3.2? |
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| 11:20.38 | Fisker | yay build 7600 leaking soon |
| 11:21.39 | Aelobin | any idea if theyre gonna make BoAs enchantable with wotlk enchants? |
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| 11:24.39 | Industrial | hm, is somber an english word? :S |
| 11:24.52 | Industrial | I know it only from dutch |
| 11:25.02 | Industrial | but there's a quest named A Somber Task |
| 11:25.25 | Cruciformer | yes |
| 11:25.52 | Cruciformer | although for some reason I want to spell it "sombre" |
| 11:26.13 | Cruciformer | not sure which is correct. But it means serious basically. |
| 11:26.47 | Industrial | same in dutch |
| 11:27.12 | Cruciformer | I think sombre is the English spelling and Somber is the American spelling. |
| 11:27.18 | Cruciformer | kinda like centre and center |
| 11:34.16 | Aiiane | http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/IRP |
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| 11:38.14 | Adys | Anyone in the US able to load youtube.com? |
| 11:39.18 | Cruciformer | Im not in the US but I am unable to load atm |
| 11:39.34 | Cruciformer | says its down for maintenance |
| 11:41.04 | Cruciformer | for some reasonw hen I view my guild's website with chrome it doesnt display the phpBB icons correctly (unread messages in forum etc). |
| 11:41.11 | Cruciformer | tres odd. |
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| 12:33.19 | Cruciformer | making pretty statusbars makes my head hurt |
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| 13:30.35 | TopTop18 | Am I right if I say the <OnLoad> tag is run when the addon is loaded and is used to initialize all events the addon ahs to deal with/set stuff? |
| 13:31.04 | nevcairiel | The OnLoad tag is run when the frame is created. If you define a frame in XML, that happens on Addon Load, yes. |
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| 13:31.57 | TopTop18 | And it's used to register the events the addon ahs to deal with later on? |
| 13:32.08 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 13:32.27 | TopTop18 | Any other common uses for it? |
| 13:32.34 | airtonix | storing bread |
| 13:32.42 | TopTop18 | ? |
| 13:32.49 | nevcairiel | anything you do for initialization |
| 13:33.40 | TopTop18 | Okay get it Thanks! |
| 13:38.20 | foxlit | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/ssotd/images/screens/ss968.jpg http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/ssotd/images/screens/ss967.jpg << amusing |
| 13:44.02 | Fisker | not even a contracted muscle |
| 13:48.10 | Wobin | hehe http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_02/playgraphicDM1406_736x800.jpg |
| 13:53.45 | Industrial | hm question |
| 13:54.11 | Industrial | I'm making a tiny little addon that displays last fight's DPS value |
| 13:54.24 | Industrial | I'm using UNIT_COMBAT to add damage to the fight's damage var |
| 13:54.59 | Industrial | but that fires for any damage, I just want damage coming from me, not things affected by damage |
| 13:56.33 | TopTop18 | Coming from you is hard I think |
| 13:56.44 | TopTop18 | Or you should use an other event |
| 13:57.00 | TopTop18 | Cause UNIT_COMBAT fires on damage taken on units |
| 13:57.22 | TopTop18 | Hmm |
| 13:57.40 | TopTop18 | Try devtools and fights some things, look when unit combat is fired and what it says |
| 13:57.58 | Industrial | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/UNIT_COMBAT |
| 13:58.05 | TopTop18 | Try to figure o9ut what arg1 has to be when the damage is taken by an enemy |
| 13:58.22 | Industrial | I think I need to use the combat log or something |
| 13:58.25 | Industrial | :\ |
| 13:58.48 | TopTop18 | Maybe, I'm also new to addons so I don;t know much about it either xD |
| 13:59.01 | Fisker | why so link Wobin ? |
| 13:59.11 | Industrial | I'm not new to addons though :o |
| 13:59.22 | Industrial | I'm just a nablet aren't I Fisker |
| 13:59.43 | TopTop18 | But the first argument passed with UNIT_COMBAt is the unit that has taken damage, eg "player", maybe another options is that it passes enemy? |
| 13:59.48 | Fisker | yes Industrial |
| 14:00.01 | foxlit | use the combat log, luke. |
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| 14:00.39 | Industrial | but father, I read about bitwise AND's and hexadecimal masks and it scares me :( |
| 14:00.49 | Industrial | why so complicated ;P |
| 14:00.53 | TopTop18 | xD |
| 14:01.02 | foxlit | The truth is that you probably don't have to use any of that. |
| 14:01.03 | airtonix | Industrial, there is a ldb addon that does this |
| 14:01.22 | TopTop18 | What are the possible values for the unit argument in UNIT_COMBAT? |
| 14:01.24 | airtonix | Industrial, picoDPS and picoRPDS |
| 14:01.34 | Industrial | airtonix: I'm doing this for fun though, and I don't use LDB :3 |
| 14:01.46 | Industrial | TopTop18: any UnitID |
| 14:01.50 | airtonix | Industrial, in any case what you need to now is inside those addons |
| 14:01.54 | airtonix | know* |
| 14:02.00 | Industrial | TopTop18: player, target, focustargetmouseovertarget etc :p |
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| 14:02.29 | Grum | how can i target someone using /script by his name? |
| 14:02.55 | TopTop18 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:02.57 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:03.10 | Grum | yeah but for some reason having /target 5 times |
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| 14:03.25 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:03.41 | bluspacecow | do you have LOS of him ? |
| 14:03.55 | bluspacecow | isn't there a targetexact command ? |
| 14:04.01 | TopTop18 | ' |
| 14:04.05 | TopTop18 | does the same |
| 14:04.18 | bluspacecow | a milkshake straw ? |
| 14:04.23 | TopTop18 | Only doesn;t target anything if you don't match exactly the unitname |
| 14:05.27 | airtonix | only way to target via guid(which will get you the exact mob you want) is to previously have had a frame created for that guid |
| 14:05.48 | airtonix | then you can click the frame to target it. |
| 14:05.51 | Grum | i tried to do: /target Prue |
| 14:06.00 | Grum | and then /script SetRaidTarget("target", 6) |
| 14:06.10 | Grum | but for some reason that doesnt work when i do it 5x in a row |
| 14:06.24 | airtonix | prue is a player or a npc? |
| 14:06.28 | foxlit | are you sure it's 5 times? |
| 14:06.40 | Grum | hmm i think i might know |
| 14:06.43 | foxlit | because, you know, 6 or 4 could make all the difference. |
| 14:06.44 | Grum | stupid typo somewhere a the start |
| 14:06.44 | TopTop18 | cause if it's an even number it'll put the mark away xD |
| 14:06.46 | Grum | hehe |
| 14:06.50 | Grum | nah i do it for 5 different people :) |
| 14:07.04 | TopTop18 | Hate typo's in code |
| 14:12.44 | MuNk | how do i save varibles, after a user logs off? |
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| 14:16.50 | Kraps | This email is to inform you that you have been suspended from the World of Warcraft forums for a 1 week period for posting language inappropriate for the forums. |
| 14:17.01 | Kraps | are you kidding me? :( |
| 14:17.18 | bluspacecow | what language ? |
| 14:17.28 | Kraps | no clue |
| 14:17.40 | Fisker | they send emails now? |
| 14:17.44 | Wobin | Perhaps it was German |
| 14:17.50 | Kraps | i made a thread about t-shirt girl? |
| 14:17.50 | bluspacecow | did you call someone a f***** c*******s****** retard ? |
| 14:17.51 | Wobin | Or Swedish |
| 14:18.21 | Kraps | is that bad? |
| 14:18.30 | Kraps | World of Warcraft Forum Suspension - FINAL WARNING |
| 14:19.07 | Fisker | quite |
| 14:19.22 | bluspacecow | what like "skjuta upp dig" |
| 14:19.52 | Fisker | jeg knepper din mor? |
| 14:19.53 | bluspacecow | "din mamma våldtas ett troll" |
| 14:19.54 | Kraps | bluspacecow: wut |
| 14:20.00 | bluspacecow | i kid i kid |
| 14:20.13 | bluspacecow | i'm just pumping phrases through google translate |
| 14:20.27 | bluspacecow | i dont know swedish ,... no offences to the great swedes .... |
| 14:20.39 | foxlit | name some great swedes. |
| 14:20.46 | bluspacecow | um |
| 14:20.48 | bluspacecow | ABBA ? |
| 14:20.49 | foxlit | And we'll see what we can do about forgiving your transgressions. |
| 14:20.59 | Industrial | foxlit: http://pastebin.com/m632a4117 |
| 14:21.26 | Industrial | foxlit: so I have the filtering on damage now, I'll change the player name thing later to work with GUIDs or something |
| 14:21.30 | bluspacecow | a rutabuga ? |
| 14:21.34 | Industrial | what I don't get is where the actual damage done is pulled from |
| 14:21.58 | foxlit | because you aren't actually listing all the arguments. |
| 14:22.01 | Industrial | oh wait, I'll print ... instead :P maybe it's got more |
| 14:22.02 | Industrial | yea |
| 14:22.11 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_COMBAT_LOG_EVENT |
| 14:25.12 | Gnarfoz | <foxlit> name some great swedes. <-- Fisker |
| 14:25.34 | bluspacecow | a gigantic Rutabuga |
| 14:25.35 | Kraps | Gnarfoz: he said "great" |
| 14:25.47 | bluspacecow | :_: |
| 14:25.52 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: well, he said swede, which he isn't either :D |
| 14:25.57 | Kraps | lol |
| 14:26.06 | Fisker | i am great though |
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| 14:27.08 | bluspacecow | he's certainly great |
| 14:27.09 | bluspacecow | at |
| 14:27.12 | bluspacecow | something |
| 14:27.15 | bluspacecow | .... |
| 14:27.26 | bluspacecow | runs outside to hang washing |
| 14:28.35 | TopTop18 | Bluspacecow, at being annoying? |
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| 14:33.36 | Kraps | i'm writing to wowreportedpost@blizzard.com about my suspension |
| 14:35.04 | Gnarfoz | bluspacecow: that'd be "trolling" :D |
| 14:40.05 | Kraps | just sent off a nice screed :) |
| 14:41.36 | Fisker | Blizzard doesn't cater to people who spam the forums with profanity |
| 14:42.18 | Kraps | dude, i didnt |
| 14:42.18 | Industrial | foxlit: awsum, works fine :) http://pastebin.com/m3a87c93a |
| 14:42.24 | Fisker | riiiiiiiight Kraps |
| 14:42.30 | Fisker | and i didn't bang your mom yesterday |
| 14:43.01 | Kraps | both things are true... whats your point? |
| 14:43.55 | Fisker | oh but it isn't |
| 14:46.00 | Kraps | ... isnt true, thats what i said |
| 14:46.58 | Fisker | so i did bang your mom |
| 14:47.00 | Fisker | bam! |
| 14:47.15 | Fisker | outplayed :( |
| 14:47.45 | MuNk | guys if i want to save changes to varibles in my addon is theere a api for that? |
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| 14:49.57 | Industrial | MuNk: http://www.wowwiki.com/SavedVariables |
| 14:50.13 | MuNk | ty |
| 14:51.43 | Fisker | jiggles the cord |
| 14:52.00 | sacarasc | Don't do that in public. |
| 14:53.03 | Fisker | jiggles sacarasc's cord |
| 14:53.46 | sacarasc | :o |
| 14:53.58 | Fisker | you better :o |
| 14:57.47 | Fisker | heheh |
| 14:58.00 | Fisker | You will have the option of downloading your free* copy of Windows 7, or having a packaged copy shipped to you. |
| 14:58.03 | Fisker | fu |
| 14:58.12 | Fisker | * Shipping charges may apply. |
| 14:58.18 | Fisker | shipping charges for a download? :( |
| 14:58.22 | Fisker | cries |
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| 15:01.38 | Kraps | 3.2 in August? |
| 15:02.30 | bluspacecow | oh i have a definite date ... from a dev no less |
| 15:02.31 | Fisker | 3.2 now |
| 15:02.40 | bluspacecow | ready ? |
| 15:02.42 | bluspacecow | wait for it |
| 15:02.43 | Fisker | bluspacecow when it's done? |
| 15:02.45 | bluspacecow | before xmas |
| 15:02.46 | Kraps | bluspacecow: surrrrre |
| 15:02.52 | Fisker | i doubt it bluspacecow |
| 15:03.12 | Fisker | Activision is delaying it for 2010 so that Modern Warfare 2 sells more |
| 15:03.17 | bluspacecow | you doubt it'll be done by xmas ? |
| 15:03.22 | Fisker | yep |
| 15:03.24 | bluspacecow | this aint world war one ya know |
| 15:03.28 | Fisker | so? |
| 15:03.36 | Aelobin | can DKs use daggers? |
| 15:03.46 | foxlit | no |
| 15:03.48 | bluspacecow | they said they would be home for xmas ,...... |
| 15:04.01 | Fisker | And Modern Warfare 2 isn't WWI/WWII |
| 15:04.10 | Fisker | Mark my words |
| 15:04.11 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXhx40DcU6Y |
| 15:04.12 | Fisker | Activision is delaying it for 2010 so that Modern Warfare 2 sells more |
| 15:05.32 | bluspacecow | piffle fishker |
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| 15:07.18 | DWSR | hey all, I'm having a wierd error where I'm not getting any chat channel text in my chat frame. I checked chat-cache.exe in my WTF folder and it has all of the correct channels listed (i.e. GUILD, BATTLEGROUND). |
| 15:07.34 | DWSR | This just started recently and I haven't installed any new mods lately. |
| 15:07.37 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 15:07.54 | bluspacecow | there was a change to the chat filter system in 3.1 |
| 15:08.05 | DWSR | Yeah, but it started more recently than that. |
| 15:08.11 | DWSR | Like, last week |
| 15:08.21 | bluspacecow | oh dear is it due to an addon ? |
| 15:08.23 | foxlit | disable all addons. |
| 15:08.25 | foxlit | try again. |
| 15:08.49 | DWSR | Anything that I can do to speed up the process of manually turning on every single one of my ~250 addons? |
| 15:08.53 | DWSR | one at a time, of course. |
| 15:08.59 | bluspacecow | binary search ftw |
| 15:09.04 | bluspacecow | 1) Turn off all of them |
| 15:09.05 | foxlit | ftl, surely. |
| 15:09.12 | foxlit | Rename your interface folder to Interface.old |
| 15:09.15 | bluspacecow | 2) problem still exists ? |
| 15:09.23 | bluspacecow | 3) split them up turn off half |
| 15:09.27 | bluspacecow | 4) goto 2) |
| 15:09.56 | DWSR | if (problem) then troubleshoot else end; |
| 15:10.04 | bluspacecow | whats the closest 2 to the power of ? for 250 ? |
| 15:10.15 | DWSR | wow. |
| 15:10.23 | DWSR | I just logged in and I'm falling. |
| 15:10.29 | DWSR | Into purple nothingness. |
| 15:10.33 | bluspacecow | does it happen with a new clean wtf folder ? |
| 15:10.39 | DWSR | And there's a lot of people falling around me... |
| 15:10.41 | DWSR | And then I died. |
| 15:10.52 | DWSR | dude. |
| 15:10.55 | DWSR | I'm stuck in the twilight zone. |
| 15:10.57 | bluspacecow | reminds me of my first marriage |
| 15:11.00 | foxlit | spoiler: your server just failed the alganon reply. |
| 15:11.08 | bluspacecow | :;eye waggle:: |
| 15:11.11 | DWSR | huh? |
| 15:11.30 | DWSR | wow, that was the wierdest bug ever. |
| 15:11.30 | bluspacecow | @$$$%$#% the fishing daily is the ghost fish ... fail ! |
| 15:11.56 | bluspacecow | what os you running ? |
| 15:12.03 | DWSR | WinXP 32bit SP3. |
| 15:12.29 | Arrowmaster | AH I CLICKED IT! newegg order for $3,546.70 submitted (atleast i got a newegg preferred account now with 12 months no interest) |
| 15:12.34 | bluspacecow | try what foxlit suggest above .... rename your wtf folder so it creates another one and test if the problem exists again |
| 15:12.34 | DWSR | I logged in, fell for a while with a whole bunch of other people, then died from falling, then asked to rez at my body, then got DCed, then logged back in alive in Crystalsong. |
| 15:12.47 | bluspacecow | O_O why so big arrowmaster ? |
| 15:12.54 | bluspacecow | arrow did you get haxxored |
| 15:13.34 | Arrowmaster | http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=15889767 |
| 15:13.40 | DWSR | brb |
| 15:13.41 | Arrowmaster | thats why its so big |
| 15:14.00 | airtonix | <foxlit> spoiler: your server just failed the alganon reply. |
| 15:14.02 | airtonix | lawl |
| 15:14.05 | bluspacecow | im suprised you haven't got pony in there |
| 15:14.12 | bluspacecow | FOR PONY !!! |
| 15:14.45 | Arrowmaster | those 8 samsung 1tb raid class harddrives each come with a free segate 500gb drive |
| 15:14.50 | nevcairiel | the motherboard seems to be really too expensive o.O |
| 15:15.00 | Arrowmaster | my porch is going to be full |
| 15:15.11 | airtonix | i'll clean it for you |
| 15:16.33 | bluspacecow | *hands airtonix the mop* |
| 15:16.39 | bluspacecow | *and the LFG* |
| 15:17.18 | airtonix | departs with a truck load of new gear....sans-mop |
| 15:17.35 | bluspacecow | dont forget your LFG |
| 15:17.39 | bluspacecow | or is it BFG > |
| 15:17.49 | bluspacecow | from duke nuke em some kind of gun for fps |
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| 15:17.59 | Arrowmaster | bfg |
| 15:18.03 | airtonix | big freakn gun is from doom isn't it? |
| 15:18.19 | Arrowmaster | all those older fps had one |
| 15:18.47 | airtonix | inb4 doom was first |
| 15:18.55 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.59 | bluspacecow | i fail |
| 15:19.09 | bluspacecow | i was a marathon player anyway |
| 15:19.20 | bluspacecow | you could play around with the physics of maps on that |
| 15:19.24 | bluspacecow | make the walls breath |
| 15:19.34 | airtonix | was that based on the hexen engine? |
| 15:20.01 | airtonix | or the wolfenstein engine? |
| 15:20.14 | bluspacecow | nope bunies own engine i believe |
| 15:20.22 | airtonix | ok |
| 15:20.58 | Kraps | oh crap |
| 15:21.17 | Kraps | i wrote "slutty" |
| 15:21.19 | Kraps | :( |
| 15:21.29 | DWSR | anyone wanna help me with farking Skinner? |
| 15:21.56 | DWSR | I don't understand how to make it use a textured background. I've tried following the instructions on WoWAce but it didn't do much of anything. |
| 15:24.51 | Aelobin | did the Titanguard enchant get removed? |
| 15:25.17 | Lukian | was that the stam one? |
| 15:25.33 | Kraps | it never went live |
| 15:25.51 | Aelobin | ah ok :P i can link it on live so thought maybe it was real xD |
| 15:25.58 | Aelobin | everyone wondered what i was on about in /2 |
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| 15:56.56 | Fisker | Det skulle blive den bedste sommer i hele vores liv Kraps |
| 15:57.34 | Kraps | is that swedich? |
| 15:57.39 | Kraps | swedish |
| 15:57.46 | Fisker | no |
| 15:58.04 | Kraps | danish |
| 15:58.15 | Kraps | why fisker? |
| 15:58.17 | Fisker | maybe |
| 15:58.25 | Fisker | you have no proof |
| 15:58.46 | Kraps | why Det skulle blive den bedste sommer i hele vores liv? |
| 15:58.57 | Fisker | why skulle det* |
| 15:59.12 | Kraps | :p |
| 15:59.26 | Fisker | dunno |
| 16:02.31 | Industrial | http://www.femaledwarf.com/ |
| 16:02.33 | Industrial | oh, oh |
| 16:02.35 | Industrial | awesome |
| 16:02.57 | Industrial | -> food |
| 16:07.07 | tekkub | only support lv80, bastards |
| 16:07.19 | tekkub | oh, wait, lootwhore only has lv80 items in it... |
| 16:12.59 | foxlit | given a number, is there a trivial method to determine how many 1s occur in its binary representation? |
| 16:13.20 | cbreak|evil | convert it and count. |
| 16:13.41 | foxlit | That doesn't quite classify as trivial |
| 16:13.49 | cbreak|evil | or shift the number and read the status registers from the cpu |
| 16:14.20 | cbreak|evil | or %2 repeatedly in combination with /2 and remainder checks |
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| 16:17.13 | foxlit | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/109023/best-algorithm-to-count-the-number-of-set-bits-in-a-32-bit-integer |
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| 16:37.11 | Industrial | tekkub: Why'd you want to optimize for pre-80? |
| 16:37.20 | Industrial | tekkub: cept twinks |
| 16:37.27 | tekkub | I just wanted to plug my huntard in |
| 16:37.32 | tekkub | see what it said |
| 16:37.41 | tekkub | maybe I could milk some DPS from him |
| 16:37.48 | tekkub | but that implies I want to level him |
| 16:38.07 | Industrial | ah k |
| 16:38.12 | Industrial | what are you playing now? |
| 16:39.08 | mikma | tekkub plugs his hunter |
| 16:40.30 | tekkub | I've not even patched wow here |
| 16:40.38 | tekkub | the mini's still on 3.2 |
| 16:40.54 | tekkub | it only has 1GiB, it's painful to log into dally |
| 16:43.28 | tekkub | by 3.2 I meant 3.0.2 |
| 16:44.06 | tekkub | http://artlung.com/smorgasborg/how_to_tick_people_off.shtml |
| 16:44.22 | tekkub | I did #2 to the roomie for nearly a year on rent checks before he noticed |
| 16:48.13 | mikma | tekkub: yeah, i usually do the same when i transfer money to my friends |
| 16:48.16 | Thunder_Child | tekkub, make my damn addon! |
| 16:48.24 | nicoli_s | i've def just put "sexs" or "drugs" there before,especially love doing it whren i give them the check in line to cash it, cuz you know they arent ging to yell out "i did not have sex with you for money" in the bank line |
| 16:48.31 | tekkub | what addon? |
| 16:48.34 | tekkub | I forgot already |
| 16:48.53 | Thunder_Child | displaying who cast what buff |
| 16:48.57 | tekkub | oh right |
| 16:49.24 | Industrial | haste does #7 |
| 16:49.26 | tekkub | send me a 1GiB memory stick and some of those plastic painter's spatulas |
| 16:49.31 | tekkub | so I can run wow on the mini |
| 16:49.32 | Industrial | but he says "or do you" |
| 16:49.35 | Industrial | :| |
| 16:49.46 | Industrial | dont you haste ! |
| 16:50.02 | Thunder_Child | i get the mem stick, but whats with the painters stuff? |
| 16:50.36 | mikma | for sniffing |
| 16:51.08 | tekkub | for cracking open the mini to install it |
| 16:51.39 | nicoli_s | its huffing, not sniffing mikma |
| 16:51.41 | Thunder_Child | oh...ram |
| 16:58.34 | DWSR | tekkub: That list is great. :) I love 29 and 23. |
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| 17:09.16 | Cralor` | in XML, if you have an <OnLoad>self:RegisterEvent("EVENT_NAME")</OnLoad> and then an <OnEvent>Do_Stuff()</OnEvent> will that OnEvent run from the event you registered by default? |
| 17:09.47 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 17:09.51 | Cralor` | ok |
| 17:09.59 | Arrowmaster | it wont get any args though |
| 17:10.13 | Cralor` | right |
| 17:14.01 | Wobin | wa>< |
| 17:14.03 | Wobin | >< |
| 17:14.07 | Wobin | guildy named "Meatflower" |
| 17:15.32 | mikma | wobin: http://kuvaton.com/bshit/retired.jpg |
| 17:16.22 | Wobin | terrible |
| 17:16.26 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 17:16.32 | Wobin | you're retired =P |
| 17:17.03 | Adys | HELP ME IM AGONIZING |
| 17:17.08 | Adys | simpsons on tv |
| 17:17.10 | Adys | with french voice |
| 17:17.11 | Adys | aaargh |
| 17:18.02 | mikma | wobin: http://kuvaton.com/bshit/internet_fuckwad_theory.jpg <- thats fisker in the last one |
| 17:18.50 | Wobin | PA occasionally get it right =P |
| 17:19.53 | mikma | tekkub: http://kuvaton.com/bshit/638651916.jpg |
| 17:24.02 | tekkub | k |
| 17:25.55 | MuNk | Textuers can be .tga files (32bit) and black area = transperant aint it (alpha layer) |
| 17:27.13 | Fisker | naw mikma |
| 17:29.01 | Wobin | mikma: divers? |
| 17:29.24 | Wobin | wow, look at the wind tunnel effect on the bottom left =P |
| 17:30.08 | Kraps | mikma: srsly calling people retired whats wrong with you |
| 17:30.35 | airtonix | :> |
| 17:30.50 | Kraps | mikma: whats the last link supposed to be? |
| 17:30.59 | airtonix | family photo |
| 17:31.02 | cbreak|evil | what's wrong with being retired? |
| 17:31.19 | airtonix | brady bunch |
| 17:31.58 | Dagmar | Lawns don't want to be kid free. |
| 17:32.35 | Kraps | cbreak|evil: some people cant help it, they werent born with enough oxygen k? |
| 17:34.25 | Thunder_Child | Shefki, ping |
| 17:34.48 | airtonix | oh gawd, i accidentally ran : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a and now five hours & four million questions later |
| 17:36.59 | haste | Industrial: I do what :P ? |
| 17:37.13 | Wobin | VLC hits 1.0.0? |
| 17:37.25 | Stanzilla | last week, yes |
| 17:37.48 | tekkub | okey these "monkey fist" knots are damn handy for shortening cords |
| 17:38.47 | cbreak|evil | mplayer > vlc |
| 17:38.54 | Fisker | lol'd mikma btw |
| 17:39.39 | airtonix | cbreak|evil, does mplayer come with its own codecs? |
| 17:39.48 | cbreak|evil | yes |
| 17:39.57 | cbreak|evil | tones of them |
| 17:40.12 | sacarasc | Both players use libavcodec. |
| 17:40.18 | cbreak|evil | indeed |
| 17:40.24 | cbreak|evil | but mplayer also supports various others |
| 17:40.29 | sacarasc | But with MPlayer you don't get an annoying GUI. |
| 17:40.33 | cbreak|evil | (binary dll codecs) |
| 17:40.36 | airtonix | so i can point it at pusle-audio? |
| 17:40.38 | DWSR | vlc uses mplayer as a back end on linux, iirc. |
| 17:40.39 | Dagmar | Yes, the annoying gui is entirely optional |
| 17:40.41 | airtonix | pulse-audio* |
| 17:40.41 | cbreak|evil | and you can get many special things |
| 17:40.46 | Dagmar | DWSR: No |
| 17:41.08 | cbreak|evil | airtonix: mplayer supports many Audio Outputs, pulse is one of them |
| 17:41.11 | Dagmar | VLC can use a lot of stuff, but it doesn't need MPlayer as a backend |
| 17:41.21 | sacarasc | DWSR: Not at all. |
| 17:42.15 | Dagmar | That having been said, since 1.0.0 plays fewer of my broken test videos than the previous version--maybe they should look into it. ;) |
| 17:42.23 | airtonix | right now i have totem on my system as my video player, if I pull in mplayer then they can co-exist? |
| 17:42.33 | Dagmar | airtonix: Yes |
| 17:42.41 | cbreak|evil | mplayer can coexist with anything |
| 17:43.06 | DWSR | anything can coexist with anything on a linux system. |
| 17:43.06 | cbreak | it's just an executable |
| 17:43.06 | airtonix | i remember in ubuntu 7 mplayer would interefere with totem for some reason |
| 17:43.06 | Dagmar | airtonix: Linux software tends to not be of the type that is mysteriously allergic to other, similiar components on the system |
| 17:43.14 | cbreak | that's ubuntu's fault |
| 17:43.17 | DWSR | It's whether or not you have to do anything special to make that happen |
| 17:43.21 | Dagmar | It probably took over some of the MIME associations |
| 17:43.27 | airtonix | most likely |
| 17:43.31 | cbreak | it was probably dynamically linked |
| 17:43.43 | Dagmar | I'm sure it was but that woudlnt' affect anything |
| 17:43.51 | cbreak | the mplayers I build are mostly static |
| 17:44.12 | DWSR | meh. |
| 17:44.12 | airtonix | but tbh since ubuntu 9 i haven't had a reason to install any other movie player |
| 17:44.16 | DWSR | Shouldn't matter too much |
| 17:44.58 | sacarasc | The MPlayer that you can get with Ubuntu is seriously old, though. Ubuntu likes releases, MPlayer does not. |
| 17:45.05 | cbreak | yeah. |
| 17:45.14 | Dagmar | Totem, on the whole is "not bad". ...as long as you aren't the poor sod who has to compile it |
| 17:45.17 | cbreak | the newest mplayer from svn or the git spinoff are the best bet |
| 17:45.25 | airtonix | does mplayer have a ppa? |
| 17:45.28 | cbreak | ppa? |
| 17:45.32 | DWSR | that's why I <3 Gentoo. |
| 17:45.35 | Dagmar | The whole of GST makes me want to cut myself, on a regular basis. |
| 17:45.40 | airtonix | ppa is how you get latest repos for a piece of software |
| 17:45.51 | cbreak | I get them with svn update or git pull |
| 17:45.52 | airtonix | personal package archive |
| 17:46.03 | DWSR | cbreak: Why not just use portage? :P |
| 17:46.16 | cbreak | I don't use package managers |
| 17:46.27 | airtonix | ie: for the latest version of wine i use the ppa apt server that winehq provide |
| 17:46.29 | DWSR | I like portage, tbh. |
| 17:46.53 | Dagmar | portage would be cooler if it audited people's crazy-ass USE and CFLAGS settings for sanity |
| 17:47.03 | DWSR | it does sorta. |
| 17:47.11 | Dagmar | "Error: Maybe you don't need -funroll-loops everywhere, chuckles." |
| 17:47.30 | Dagmar | "Error: -O99 doesn't really do anything, you know that rite?" |
| 17:47.44 | DWSR | lulz. |
| 17:48.00 | DWSR | Why should portage do that when the compilers will check them? |
| 17:48.03 | Dagmar | That's literally my only gripe about portage--what some people do with it. |
| 17:48.19 | Dagmar | Compilers just do what you tell them to, even if it's silly. :/ |
| 17:48.28 | DWSR | yeah |
| 17:48.29 | DWSR | And? |
| 17:48.36 | DWSR | They don't accept invalid input. |
| 17:48.42 | DWSR | like malformed use flags. |
| 17:48.46 | DWSR | err, clfag* |
| 17:48.54 | Dagmar | Wait until you're trying to figure out why someone's binary explodes when no one else's does |
| 17:48.54 | cbreak | you can write stupid stuff that works |
| 17:48.58 | cbreak | until you try to run your code |
| 17:49.13 | cbreak | mplayer's configure script is quite goo |
| 17:49.15 | cbreak | good |
| 17:49.17 | Dagmar | DWSR: The ones I'm thinking of aren't malformed or invalid syntax, they're just dumb. |
| 17:49.42 | Dagmar | cbreak: Don't look to closely at the CPU autodetection code in ffmpeg then. ;) |
| 17:49.47 | Dagmar | s/to/too/; |
| 17:51.49 | cbreak | I don't use VLC a lot, but I compile mplayer every few days. It's quite relaxing :) |
| 17:52.14 | cbreak | and it's multi threaded decoding, while experimental, is very nice on the modern Core 2 CPUs or other multi core processors |
| 17:52.27 | cbreak | on linux, it has graphic card accelerated decoding |
| 17:52.37 | cbreak | I heard it's nice, doesn't work here though |
| 17:52.52 | Dagmar | The multi-threaded decoding has become a necessity with certain media and platforms. |
| 17:52.55 | DWSR | just ordered a 9800gtx from newegg |
| 17:53.02 | DWSR | $168, including a copy of CoD:WoW and WoW. |
| 17:53.12 | DWSR | CAD |
| 17:53.13 | Dagmar | Like, without VDPAU, or a 2.6Ghz or _greater_ _core speed_ CPU, you are just *not* playing back 1080 h.264 |
| 17:53.40 | DWSR | wee |
| 17:53.57 | Dagmar | Single-sliced h.264 will still murder your clockcycles without VDPAU in some cases |
| 17:54.28 | Dagmar | x264 are hungree for ur megahurts |
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| 17:54.59 | Dagmar | There's been a number of times when I've wished new MythTV users played WoW because then I could use the Stitches reference with them |
| 17:56.26 | DWSR | Anyone here play/own NFS Undercover for PC"? |
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| 17:59.08 | Thunder_Child | wow, major fail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800998116 |
| 18:01.16 | cbreak | x264 doesn't work with vdpau |
| 18:01.18 | DWSR | they probably just have that in there so that they can bundle it with ASUS stuff. |
| 18:01.26 | cbreak | maybe it gets cuda support though. no idea |
| 18:01.42 | cbreak | but when encoding, you can use many threads without much problems anyway. |
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| 18:02.14 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure it does man |
| 18:02.35 | Dagmar | Like, this is the main reason we _have_ VDPAU and are not still reliant on XvMC |
| 18:03.27 | Dagmar | Double-checking with some devs yeilds that it _does_ do h.264 up to L4.1 (whatever that is, news to me), VC1 (up to L3 wagnerrp says), and mpg1/2 |
| 18:04.06 | DWSR | ROFL |
| 18:04.28 | cbreak | no dagmar, vdpau is only decoding |
| 18:04.32 | cbreak | x264 is only encoding |
| 18:04.41 | DWSR | I just did an event in NFS, time to beat was 4:38, did it in 2:28. |
| 18:05.09 | Dagmar | Sorry about the vagueness, we tend to use the two names interchangaby |
| 18:05.18 | Dagmar | s/by/bly/; |
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| 18:07.40 | Dagmar | Darnit now I'm going to have to go look at source |
| 18:08.14 | DWSR | Anyone here play/own NFS Undercover for PC"? |
| 18:08.23 | Dagmar | Now that you've pointed that out it's bugging me I don't know which bit is responsible for actually decoding it without vdpau |
| 18:08.50 | cbreak | ffmpeg |
| 18:09.17 | cbreak | the multi threaded ffmpeg in the git spinoff from mplayer by uau (or something similar) is rather nice |
| 18:09.40 | Dagmar | Well, in the case I'm thinking of, libavcodec, but same thing |
| 18:09.55 | Dagmar | Myth resynchs with it every so often |
| 18:10.35 | Dagmar | For awhile it was "god have mercy on your soul" if you actually had libavcodec already installed and tried to compile Myth |
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| 18:31.23 | jnwhiteh | Cruciformer: i am in england |
| 18:31.25 | jnwhiteh | and i have an IRC proxy |
| 18:31.31 | jnwhiteh | so just send me a message and i'll respond |
| 18:31.37 | jnwhiteh | or email me, or post on the wowprogramming forums |
| 18:31.41 | jnwhiteh | and <3 if you add a new good mtype |
| 18:31.50 | jnwhiteh | and <3 even more for figuring out the cryptic format for the tables =) |
| 18:31.56 | jnwhiteh | needs to document them better sometimes |
| 18:34.17 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:38.05 | Fisker | you think you can hide jnwhiteh |
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| 18:41.21 | foxlit | http://gizmodo.com/5312819/norwegian-pms-monitor-rig-surely-doubles-as-tanning-bed-during-long-winter-months << too awesome. |
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| 18:42.15 | foxlit | "Fifth, a bad-ass monitor setup does not have a milled aluminum waste bin by it. Install a trap door like a normal psychopath." |
| 18:43.16 | Adys | HEY BIBI |
| 18:43.19 | Adys | LOOK AT ME IM ONLINE |
| 18:43.21 | Adys | jerk. |
| 18:43.31 | Shefki | Thunder_Child: pong |
| 18:43.52 | Fisker | IM A BUSINESS JERK |
| 18:43.58 | msoul | Any DK tank here? |
| 18:44.34 | Fisker | yeah |
| 18:44.37 | Fisker | i'm a danish tank |
| 18:44.42 | Fisker | highfives foxlit |
| 18:44.46 | foxlit | lies, you wear a dress, Fisker. |
| 18:44.47 | msoul | I just need the rotation |
| 18:45.03 | msoul | I tanked Vh/UP for the first time today |
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| 18:46.22 | Dagmar | You like that last boss's special attack? |
| 18:46.35 | msoul | Hmmm? |
| 18:46.36 | Dagmar | It's fun to point him in the direction of clothies and watch 'em scatter. ;) |
| 18:46.50 | msoul | UP? |
| 18:46.57 | foxlit | I didn't think Ymiron did anything fun. |
| 18:47.00 | msoul | I hate the last boss, ZzZzZzZ |
| 18:47.08 | Bruners | Fisker: good one |
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| 18:47.32 | Dagmar | Ah wait, I'm getting UP and UK mixed up |
| 18:47.36 | msoul | Not sure if my gear is decent for naxx10/25 either |
| 18:48.10 | Dagmar | msoul: If players can't craft you any better gear (sans ulduar recipes), then you're geared for it. |
| 18:48.45 | msoul | Dagmar: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Aammaa |
| 18:49.10 | msoul | Dagmar: and uldu recipes are waist and gloves i pressume |
| 18:49.33 | msoul | hp online 28k why 26 :( |
| 18:50.09 | sacarasc | Because the armoury sucks. |
| 18:50.22 | Dagmar | Well, the last few times I went through most of the recipe lists, you could dress yourself in BoE loot and crafted gear that would get you there. |
| 18:50.24 | msoul | i guess one naxx run will gear me up for tankibng |
| 18:50.45 | Dagmar | You appear to be defense capped, and unless you've got a better chestpiece in mind, you should _at least_ be able to OT Naxx with that |
| 18:50.56 | msoul | Dagmar: i've done naxx 3 times the first time was the last 3 quarters |
| 18:51.19 | msoul | yeah i could buy for 60 emblems but thought of getting it from naxx |
| 18:51.20 | Fisker | of course Bruners |
| 18:51.21 | Dagmar | Then there's probably nothing in the last wing that'll cause you any special trouble |
| 18:51.37 | msoul | i just hate thadrius |
| 18:51.46 | Dagmar | We've cleared a few wings with half the group still wearing a lot of bluew |
| 18:51.49 | msoul | Dagmar: do you know dks rotation by the way? |
| 18:51.56 | Dagmar | Not anymore |
| 18:52.09 | msoul | Dagmar: when you play with friends/guild yes but pug.... |
| 18:52.22 | Dagmar | Gear isnt' really going to save you on a NAxx pug |
| 18:52.29 | msoul | when you pug they want you to be the best tank out there hehe |
| 18:52.36 | Dagmar | It only takes a few of the clueless to screw everything up |
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| 18:52.43 | msoul | Dagmar: not me to get me invited to naxx |
| 18:52.44 | Dagmar | Oh yeah that I can understand |
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| 18:53.10 | Dagmar | Get purpled out and just link them [Superior] |
| 18:53.35 | msoul | hehe |
| 18:53.55 | Dagmar | I've gotten there, but I |
| 18:54.00 | msoul | well, few from my previous guild started one "without the kiddies/bitches" |
| 18:54.01 | Dagmar | ve no idea where half my gear came from |
| 18:54.07 | msoul | so we are 5 now |
| 18:54.26 | msoul | 1 priest 2 tanks/dps and meh dps main ot tank |
| 18:54.35 | msoul | but will tank from now on much better |
| 18:54.58 | msoul | just have to fogire rotation, checked elite jerks and found one about death and eecay, blood boil and pest.... |
| 18:55.13 | msoul | but that didn't do the trick quite well |
| 18:55.49 | Dagmar | I have to relearn those.. *sigh* |
| 18:55.56 | msoul | hehe |
| 18:56.05 | Dagmar | My GF and I both have DK's that eventually we're going to use to tank Naxx for our guild |
| 18:56.13 | msoul | nice |
| 18:56.22 | Dagmar | ...because it's just so hard sometimes to get that horsemen fight down without close comms between tanks |
| 18:56.32 | msoul | yeah |
| 18:56.52 | foxlit | meh. |
| 18:56.59 | msoul | wait for p3.2 dualwield |
| 18:57.00 | foxlit | Decide in a particular number of stack, stick to it. |
| 18:57.01 | msoul | ;) |
| 18:57.03 | foxlit | problem solved? :) |
| 18:57.17 | Dagmar | Doesn't quite work that easily unless you're overgeared for it |
| 18:57.25 | msoul | Hmmm |
| 18:57.44 | Dagmar | If the tanks don't swap each and every time, without being overgeared you just _don't_ get through that one |
| 18:57.57 | Dagmar | THere's sooo many insta-wipe conditions |
| 18:58.05 | foxlit | But they *should* swap before the auras kill them. |
| 18:58.11 | foxlit | Nothing else should be able to. |
| 18:58.22 | Dagmar | Yes, and people don't always get stacks at the same rate |
| 18:58.31 | Dagmar | We've seen people get out of sync on stacks many a time |
| 18:58.37 | foxlit | News to me. |
| 18:58.38 | Dagmar | I don't know if they're resisting it or what |
| 18:58.49 | msoul | Dagmar: your gf dps main btw and you? |
| 18:59.06 | Dagmar | She's got an ice mage, me a BM hunter (for the flexibility) |
| 18:59.12 | msoul | aah |
| 18:59.34 | msoul | i should continue levelinh up a mage and my priest |
| 19:01.10 | msoul | hit doesn't matter with tanks right? expertise only 25 i heard |
| 19:01.29 | Dagmar | What? No. +Hit matters if you like threat |
| 19:01.40 | msoul | right |
| 19:02.15 | Dagmar | Spellpower, on the other hand... ;) |
| 19:02.27 | msoul | hmm didn't enchant the shoulder cause i thought it would be a waste of money :/ wanted to buy that wapach shoulder but 2000g is too much for it |
| 19:03.00 | Dagmar | You should maybe test out Rawr. |
| 19:03.14 | Dagmar | The sorted lists it has might make an easier go of finding a better chest piece |
| 19:03.34 | msoul | what's rawr'? |
| 19:04.06 | Dagmar | A theorycrafting program written in .NET |
| 19:04.13 | msoul | hmm |
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| 19:07.24 | Adys | http://www.wowbash.com/images/1235893413.jpg |
| 19:07.25 | Adys | "wow" |
| 19:08.00 | nevcairiel | he engineerd that from the beginning |
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| 19:08.39 | Arrowmaster | i saw a 'private parts' before there were paid name changes |
| 19:08.53 | tekkub | I need ideas for audiobooks to download |
| 19:08.58 | tekkub | for da drive home |
| 19:09.13 | tekkub | already did all of hitchhiker's guide and golden compass |
| 19:11.51 | Adys | Arrowmaster: We had a Private Pleasure a while back on stormrage |
| 19:12.05 | Kraps | Jessica Rabbit has huge boobs |
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| 19:21.38 | Thunder_Child | Shefki, should i reopen http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/tickets/433-mana-deficit-display/ ? |
| 19:25.24 | Shefki | Thunder_Child: You can reopen it but it's very low priority. The Visual Heal stuff has a library written just for it. It'd actually take a fair big hunk of work to know how much mana a spell was going to take. |
| 19:25.58 | Thunder_Child | ok, thanks Shefki |
| 19:26.13 | Shefki | I changed it back to new. |
| 19:26.54 | Fisker | http://vimeo.com/5527859 <-wut? |
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| 19:39.30 | Fisker | http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2009/07/is_windows_7_finished_apparently_not.html <-ITT: We are retards |
| 19:41.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker: quite a few people are saying it'll RTM publically tomorrow |
| 19:41.52 | ScytheBlade1 | well, time zone differences |
| 19:41.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Monday PST |
| 19:42.15 | Fisker | "There is, however, a build with this number on it making its way through the torrents." |
| 19:42.29 | ScytheBlade1 | As in legally :P |
| 19:42.45 | Fisker | As in not "torrents" |
| 19:42.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes! |
| 19:43.07 | Fisker | This is why we can't have nice things |
| 19:43.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I can, it'll appear on my technet account tomorrow :) |
| 19:43.57 | Shefki | ScytheBlade1: It'll be Monday tomorrow in PST too. |
| 19:44.01 | Fisker | not it won't ScytheBlade1 |
| 19:44.03 | Fisker | no* |
| 19:44.07 | ScytheBlade1 | prove it! |
| 19:44.26 | Fisker | also i was talking about retards inabillity to distinguish Torrent from other downloading services and from something illegal |
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| 19:45.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I can't tell you from when you're trolling vs. when you are not |
| 19:45.18 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 19:46.51 | Fisker | owned |
| 19:47.13 | airtonix | lol |
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| 19:53.07 | Fisker | You want to hear something scary ScytheBlade1 ? |
| 19:53.32 | ScytheBlade1 | sure |
| 19:53.43 | Fisker | i never troll |
| 19:53.45 | Fisker | DUN DUN DUN |
| 19:55.45 | Thunder_Child | if you never troll that would make you one huge idiot |
| 19:56.07 | Fisker | trolled |
| 19:57.02 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 19:58.07 | Thunder_Child | granted, but you are still an idiot |
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| 20:10.31 | airtonix | anyone remember when the 3.1 ptr was up and the map for old kingdom had an extra boss skull on the dungeon map? |
| 20:11.17 | airtonix | there was some speculation on mmo-champion that it was either a new boss, an entry point for a new raid, or just some sadistic artist who was bored |
| 20:11.51 | Adys | ya |
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| 20:31.53 | ZorbaTHut | if I have a window Child, and a window Parent, is there any easy way to crop Child to only render within Parent? |
| 20:32.01 | ZorbaTHut | (Child is, unsurprisingly, a child of Parent) |
| 20:32.45 | Thunder_Child | it's a good thing i dont have child on ping |
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| 20:35.17 | foxlit | And when you say "window", we're clearly talking abou... |
| 20:35.18 | foxlit | ^t |
| 20:39.47 | foxlit | If we're talking frames, I think ScrollFrame clips its children. |
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| 20:44.23 | End | ScrollFrame does clip its children |
| 20:44.30 | End | which is awesome for certain things |
| 20:47.43 | foxlit | New plan: get an image of the night sky, and label some random constellations. |
| 20:48.33 | foxlit | Preferably some *new* ones. |
| 20:51.37 | Lopeppeppy | The Jolly Mon and the Dolphin would look wonderful in your sky, foxlit. |
| 20:52.08 | Thunder_Child | i bet that Paul Simon and Kenny G would make an interesting team |
| 20:52.27 | Lopeppeppy | Call me Al, with a soprano sax. |
| 20:55.02 | foxlit | wonder what sort of parser mediawiki employs. |
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| 21:01.02 | Shirik | salt & vinegar chips are the greatest invention of all time |
| 21:01.31 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 21:01.32 | Thunder_Child | hmmmm....no |
| 21:01.50 | Thunder_Child | though they do go well *with* things |
| 21:02.07 | Fisker | salt & vinegar is terribad |
| 21:02.20 | Cairenn | blasphemy! |
| 21:02.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I agree with the one called Fisker |
| 21:02.43 | Cairenn | heathens |
| 21:02.49 | End | The one called Fisker is a terrible person. |
| 21:02.52 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a heathen, yup |
| 21:03.02 | Lopeppeppy | Cannot stands the salty vinegary vileness. |
| 21:03.06 | Lopeppeppy | Gimme sour cream and onion. |
| 21:03.27 | Cairenn | that's good too |
| 21:03.47 | sacarasc | Fisker speaks the truth. |
| 21:04.00 | Fisker | <-master of truth |
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| 21:04.58 | Thunder_Child | ty Fisker, that brought a smile to my face |
| 21:05.00 | foxlit | Fisker: angram of "fear most truth" |
| 21:05.19 | foxlit | wonders about the plague of typos. |
| 21:06.36 | Shirik | omg rite let meeeeete ll u wuajt happednded, so i wuz just sat thehre right typging on teh getosase.xcc artiacle, wehan all fo a sduden a doggggg cem in adn yytpyred on my keybaorad and i wuz like D00D GET OFFFFFF MY KEYBAORD and he wuas liek lets have a pokekmon batelae, so he sentt out rayquaakzza and i sented out piikakkachu anwyaya hee wooon so i hadd 2 save the araicle. sorrrrrrry |
| 21:07.00 | Shirik | ^ request for unban >> |
| 21:07.19 | nicoli_s | you should write a book of that shirik |
| 21:07.20 | foxlit | +1 creative |
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| 21:07.36 | Thunder_Child | screw a book go post all the stupidity in a blog |
| 21:07.50 | Thunder_Child | it works surprisingly well |
| 21:11.47 | foxlit | sighs at PHP's preg_match |
| 21:11.56 | foxlit | Return-value-as-argument needs to die. |
| 21:13.54 | Thunder_Child | http://kotaku.com/5312847/the-most-bizarre-5-minutes-youll-spend-this-morning (NSFW to be safe) rather amusing though |
| 21:17.45 | Fisker | old Thunder_Child |
| 21:22.55 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_select who put that horrible catenation function there ? oO |
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| 21:49.43 | foxlit | wonders what with all the Tirion hate on wowinsider |
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| 21:52.28 | Fisker | herro |
| 22:00.07 | foxlit | "Man, 86, barks at bear in home (video)" |
| 22:00.15 | foxlit | Hurray for news websites. |
| 22:00.35 | Lopeppeppy | Squirrels on water skis |
| 22:00.59 | foxlit | Peppy: war war unrest war police... |
| 22:01.17 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly! |
| 22:04.12 | ccox | foxlit - you forgot about celebrities doing stupid things, and athletes doing stupider things |
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| 22:05.03 | ccox | and politicians getting caught doing stupid things |
| 22:05.05 | foxlit | ccox: while I left out a great deal, celebrities and athletes weren't part of the intended message. |
| 22:06.33 | foxlit | [It was, unfortunately, a quote :) ] |
| 22:06.50 | ccox | ah, ok |
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| 22:19.50 | Industrial | lulz both healers getting blocked on KZ |
| 22:19.52 | Industrial | awsum |
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| 22:21.44 | cbreak | I call it lack of distance |
| 22:22.15 | foxlit | did they die? |
| 22:22.35 | foxlit | [And were they paladins or shamans?] |
| 22:23.34 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: over half of the things on that page are horrible |
| 22:23.55 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: I can finaly stop wondering why people make poor addons, it's because of poor docs >.> |
| 22:24.12 | Arrowmaster | this is why you never point people to wowwiki |
| 22:24.15 | Cruciformer | amazing what a difference using "timerbarframe" vs "timberbarframe" makes in placing a frame :P |
| 22:24.16 | Arrowmaster | its always been horrible |
| 22:24.54 | Arrowmaster | programmers are not writers, and writers are not programmers |
| 22:25.12 | Arrowmaster | so wikis are terrible places for detailed docs |
| 22:26.25 | foxlit | I'm not sure that's the problem. |
| 22:26.42 | foxlit | My pet theory is that competent people stop bothering to update community documentation because they don't actually need the hand-holding. |
| 22:27.07 | foxlit | "How does foo work? Screw it, I'll look at the code and figure it out" |
| 22:27.23 | ccox | you might have something there... |
| 22:27.33 | Cruciformer | foxlit: Or in some cases, simply can't. Ive been trying to fix a number of things on wowprogramming.com and can't. |
| 22:27.50 | Arrowmaster | you cant? |
| 22:27.56 | Arrowmaster | everything should be editable |
| 22:28.28 | foxlit | Wiki has a sane licensing policy <3 |
| 22:28.28 | Cruciformer | Its not letting me edit function signatures, for example |
| 22:28.47 | Bruners | anyone got some docs on how to do a simple implemenation of the color picker? |
| 22:29.12 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_the_ColorPickerFrame << teehee |
| 22:29.19 | Arrowmaster | using the blizzard color picker or making your own? |
| 22:29.28 | Bruners | using the blizzard one |
| 22:29.33 | foxlit | Though calling that docs requires some stretch of imagination. |
| 22:29.45 | foxlit | It is workable, however. |
| 22:29.53 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster: Also I need jnwhiteh or someone else fo suitable "power" to add things like data types so I can use them as mtype=whatever in function signatures. |
| 22:30.01 | Bruners | i already read that wiki page but didnt really get it :P |
| 22:30.23 | Bruners | and looked through a bunch of code |
| 22:30.41 | foxlit | Then, I think, you need to ask a less general question. |
| 22:30.42 | Arrowmaster | looks simple enough |
| 22:34.20 | foxlit | Give me a few minutes. |
| 22:38.47 | Adys | http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001286.html |
| 22:38.50 | Adys | "holy fuck" |
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| 22:48.27 | Aqua | nothing like a fresh mirc install |
| 22:49.43 | Hjalte | <3 chatzilla on xulrunner |
| 22:50.15 | nicoli_s | adys, are you trying to say that making ads more titty-driven is in some way, wrong? |
| 22:50.54 | Adys | hold that thought, I'm browsing youporn for some nice pics to show with the sigrie ads. |
| 22:51.32 | Aqua | rofl |
| 22:51.36 | Aqua | browsing youporn |
| 22:52.22 | Adys | http://www.thenoobcomic.com/index.php?pos=186 |
| 22:53.12 | foxlit | Does OnShow trigger if you call :Show() on an already-visible frame? |
| 22:55.13 | Cruciformer | I dont think so foxlit I seem to recall tinkering with that a few weeks back |
| 22:56.30 | foxlit | Bruners: http://www.wowwiki.com/Using_the_ColorPickerFrame |
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| 22:56.51 | Bruners | foxlit: nice :) |
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| 23:23.46 | Aqua | anyone know of a torrent or something that has all the patchs for wow, from wotlk release to current? my hard drive died and i gotta reinstall the whole damn game (and patch it too) |
| 23:24.25 | Hjalte | wowwiki has links to all patches |
| 23:24.49 | Hjalte | You should get wotlk from the blizzard pages, it's a fast download and install 3.0 or similar |
| 23:25.43 | Aqua | you mean use the online installer? |
| 23:25.54 | Hjalte | I suppose you could call it that |
| 23:26.15 | Hjalte | I was able to max out my download at least. |
| 23:27.02 | Aqua | my download is 20 megabits, if i can max that out i'd be mildy entertained |
| 23:28.20 | Hjalte | Aqua: So is mine. |
| 23:28.38 | Aqua | oooo i might try that then, thank ya |
| 23:29.00 | Hjalte | Log in and you can find the downloader. |
| 23:29.11 | Bruners | Aqua: http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ |
| 23:29.12 | Aqua | already got it |
| 23:29.12 | Aqua | thanks |
| 23:29.34 | Aqua | Bruners: thats what i was looking for |
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| 23:53.14 | msoul | Dagmar: ping |
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