| 00:03.26 | Kraps | microsoft nerfed sound recorder in vista |
| 00:03.42 | Kraps | its stoopit now |
| 00:05.01 | Kraps | the only way to play back what you recorded is to save it and use a media player |
| 00:07.11 | Nafe | Kraps: seems horrible. But then again, MS isn't exactly known for being user-friendly (*shudders* Office *shudders*) |
| 00:08.04 | Kraps | funny story: after getting disconnected on my mothers cell phone for the third time while talking with the cable company, i exclaimed to her without thinking, "i got DCed again!" |
| 00:08.22 | Nafe | lol |
| 00:08.40 | Kraps | then i'm like uhhhhh |
| 00:08.41 | Nafe | I tried to explain to my dad what "spamming a button" meant, prolly ~1 week ago |
| 00:08.58 | Nafe | used it in regard to a DVD player |
| 00:09.07 | Kraps | heh |
| 00:09.25 | Nafe | side effect of playing WoW =\ |
| 00:09.40 | Kraps | yeah |
| 00:10.23 | Nafe | I've probably used "DCed" with tech support people. I should be more careful |
| 00:20.23 | Lunessa | Once, a guy in my guild explained to his wife that he was going to the store to get the "Mats" for their BBQ. |
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| 00:22.35 | Kraps | thats a grind |
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| 00:24.45 | Kraps | anyone here posts on EJ? |
| 00:25.05 | Lunessa | I don't post. My skin isn't thick enough. |
| 00:25.48 | Kraps | they're anal over there |
| 00:30.17 | ckknight | btw, we launched the author reward store over at curseforge/wowace: http://www.curseforge.com/announcements/author-store-is-launched/ |
| 00:32.20 | Wobin | what are people's opinions of addons using 'private' chatchannels for communication? |
| 00:32.41 | Kraps | ooh spiffy update to curse |
| 00:32.51 | foxlit | That can occasionally be useful, Wobin. |
| 00:33.19 | Wobin | I'm just wondering at what point they become 'too much' |
| 00:34.02 | Wobin | and how to throttle communication if the participants are distributed |
| 00:35.08 | Dagmar | Well, I'd say it was easy if you'd spent the 90's on EFNet crashing channels. |
| 00:35.26 | Dagmar | Most of this is just those very same problems warmed over. |
| 00:35.32 | Lunessa | Funniest thing I've read all day - http://www.lamebook.com/makin-mom-proud |
| 00:35.36 | foxlit | Personal approach to throttling: don't be silly. |
| 00:35.50 | Dagmar | Maybe put a ceiling on it of one message per second? |
| 00:36.02 | foxlit | Don't send data you don't need to send; but don't bother explicitly defining a rate either. |
| 00:36.16 | Dagmar | Like EFNET opers, the WoW gods aren't giving us a hard number on what is too much, so we have to err on the side of caution |
| 00:36.52 | Wobin | My situation is searching for trending topics between users of an addon |
| 00:37.52 | Wobin | the client puts out a search term, and people 'respond' if they have a match, then send their 'tweets' that correspond |
| 00:38.44 | Wobin | I could limit the initial search by a time period |
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| 00:39.04 | foxlit | If you're limiting anything, it should be the responses. |
| 00:39.21 | Wobin | then have the initiating client limit the subsequent communication by directly requesting the tweets from the first X respondants |
| 00:40.42 | Wobin | and by 'limit the initial search' I mean ask for "Tweets with the trend #X in the last 5 days" |
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| 00:41.00 | Wobin | or somesuch |
| 00:41.03 | foxlit | Global: "Hey, anyone know foo?" Private response: "Yeah, I know foo; 127 matches." Private response: "Okay, give me what you know about foo." |
| 00:41.21 | foxlit | s/ response: "O/ request: "O/ |
| 00:41.33 | foxlit | But, tbh, BURN IT WITH FIRE. |
| 00:41.39 | Wobin | yeah, but instead of just "foo", it'd be "limited foo in a timeframe" |
| 00:41.50 | foxlit | still foo :) |
| 00:42.12 | Wobin | yeah =) Just a reduction in subsequent private transmission =) |
| 00:42.33 | Wobin | I can't really do ala twitter and search for -every- term |
| 00:42.46 | Wobin | because that would be terrible each time someone does a global search |
| 00:42.51 | Dagmar | Can't you just shortcut hte entire thing to an addon that keeps a running log of random phrases laced with obscenities that other addons have sent to it? |
| 00:42.59 | Dagmar | I mean, since you called them tweets and all |
| 00:43.27 | Lunessa | Twitter is the devil's work. |
| 00:43.40 | Wobin | that's why I've named it Squawk |
| 00:43.48 | foxlit | @#$@#$ing parrots. |
| 00:44.04 | Wobin | in the time honoured tradition of renaming the devils work to hide it =) |
| 00:44.11 | Dagmar | Call 'em "toots" then |
| 00:44.26 | Dagmar | ..a.nd the whole addon "Flatlencia". It sounds very fancy. |
| 00:44.36 | Wobin | hehe |
| 00:44.44 | Dagmar | Pardon, Enflatulencia Xtreme |
| 00:44.55 | Wobin | It sounds Latin! It must be -special- |
| 00:45.01 | Dagmar | Esepcial? |
| 00:45.04 | Lunessa | Wobin: that's good. Mockery I can get behind. |
| 00:45.08 | Dagmar | Christ I can't type for beans tonight |
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| 00:53.22 | napster | any easy way to get the damage range for a given spell without parsing tooltip |
| 00:53.27 | napster | (same for healing) |
| 00:54.06 | Arrowmaster | no, and parsing the tooltip wont be accurate either |
| 00:55.10 | Wobin | what's a good addon that uses a custom channel well? |
| 00:55.27 | Arrowmaster | none |
| 00:56.26 | Wobin | hehe, I figured =) |
| 00:57.48 | Wobin | what's a decent addon that uses a custom channel well? |
| 00:58.02 | Arrowmaster | none? |
| 01:00.40 | Lunessa | Wobin: Seriously, none. |
| 01:05.18 | Kirov | Actually, most addons do that. |
| 01:05.33 | Kirov | because they _don't_ use a custom channel. |
| 01:05.59 | Lunessa | A photo's caption, "the morning after fiesta week, in the airplane tunnel back to tuscon, with my burrito and a diet coke. you do the fucking math." |
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| 01:10.40 | Neffykins | I can't seem to locate an event. Is there any simple way to tell when the player mounts or dismounts? |
| 01:10.45 | airtonix | what is the pattern matching string to find either the character '*' or the word 'all' in a string? i thought it might be : args:gmatch("(*|all)"))() |
| 01:10.50 | Neffykins | Specifically, onto a flying mount or flight form? |
| 01:11.03 | foxlit | airtonix: Lua has no "or" clause in patterns. |
| 01:11.23 | airtonix | foxlit, so two seperate matches are requried? |
| 01:11.23 | foxlit | Furthermore, your use of gmatch is most misguided. |
| 01:11.24 | ckknight | outside of single-character matches |
| 01:11.46 | airtonix | is there a one shot method of doing what im attempting there? |
| 01:12.08 | ckknight | x:gmatch("[Aa][Bb][Cc]") matches ABC, Abc, abc |
| 01:12.08 | Neffykins | | args:match"*" or args:match"all" | is the best you can do I think |
| 01:12.08 | ckknight | but no group or or group optionals |
| 01:12.26 | airtonix | ok |
| 01:12.38 | airtonix | many thanks |
| 01:12.49 | Neffykins | Note, check for "all" first because "*" will trip on the a of "all" |
| 01:13.38 | Neffykins | So there's no event for mounting/dismounting? |
| 01:14.10 | foxlit | aura gains will fire. |
| 01:14.12 | Arrowmaster | Neffykins: compainion update |
| 01:16.46 | airtonix | frustrating that x:gmatch("[Aa|*]")() catches either * or A or a |
| 01:17.12 | airtonix | but no way to make it catch * or all, ALL, etc |
| 01:17.27 | bleeter | "You know, animals are very psychic. I mean, the least sign of danger and my pussy's hair stands on end." |
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| 01:17.49 | Arrowmaster | airtonix: | isnt a special character in lua patterns |
| 01:18.03 | Neffykins | Perfect, thanks |
| 01:18.38 | Neffykins | airtonix: That would also match "|" |
| 01:19.18 | airtonix | ok |
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| 01:30.20 | napster | hrm |
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| 01:30.36 | napster | IsHelpfulSpell() appears to be failing on penance |
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| 01:30.52 | napster | IsSpellInRange("penance", "player") does not return nil though |
| 01:31.18 | napster | are there known issues with ishelpfulspell/isharmfulspell with spells that work on both friendly and enemy targets? |
| 01:33.37 | napster | if anyone plays a priest and can verify, lmk |
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| 02:49.14 | alestane | ScytheBlade1: Looks like Zerg 10 is another one where you'd better avoid scouting for a while. |
| 02:49.36 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: actually it doesn't matter |
| 02:49.48 | ScytheBlade1 | No special tricks to that map in terms of AI |
| 02:49.56 | alestane | I started building up, sent out an overlord to check the lay of the land, beat off a couple zealots and immortals, then all of a sudden a carrier showed up on my doorstep. |
| 02:50.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Use a group of 8 hydras and a couple mutalisks for base defense |
| 02:50.46 | alestane | I hadn't rushed to put up a spire, which was apparently a mistake...have to accelerate a little more on that map. |
| 02:50.58 | ScytheBlade1 | entirely unrelated: http://store.steampowered.com/sub/1764/ |
| 02:52.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Really, that carrier +/- a couple zealots/dragoons is the worst you'll face in terms of protoss trying to eat you |
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| 02:53.22 | alestane | So is this a "survive the beginning" fight? |
| 02:53.47 | ScytheBlade1 | it's easier than it sounds, actually |
| 02:53.59 | NightHawkTheSane | so's your mom. :) |
| 02:54.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I used the ones you start with for most of the map, and added a couple hydras |
| 02:54.24 | alestane | Sounds mostly like it's a question of getting a fast start out of the gate. |
| 02:55.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Hydras alone work well as defense |
| 02:55.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd argue there is a trick to that map as well, but it really isn't much of a trick |
| 02:58.44 | Arrowmaster | alestane: you doing bw or reg? |
| 02:58.59 | alestane | Arrowmaster: Reg, at the moment. |
| 02:59.25 | alestane | I might start into Brood War if I get sick of the Protoss campaign when it's what I've got left. |
| 02:59.51 | Arrowmaster | i think my save is right near the end of the protoss campaign |
| 03:00.01 | ScytheBlade1 | That wouldn't get you much. The first expansion campaign is protoss. |
| 03:00.40 | ZorbaTHut | anyone know of a UI mod that provides a windowed map and works on 3.2? |
| 03:01.50 | NightHawkTheSane | does mapster not work? |
| 03:02.02 | ZorbaTHut | dunno, haven't tried it. I'll give it a shot |
| 03:02.09 | aesir | I can't remember if I had Mapster on PTR or not. I don't think I did, so I can't say for sure. |
| 03:04.39 | Gnarfoz | ~seen absolutrayne |
| 03:04.42 | purl | absolutrayne <n=chatzill@XPLR-MCI-74-127-239-30.barrettxplore.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 8d 5h 31m 48s ago, saying: 'Still 404s on Login'. |
| 03:04.43 | Aqua | mapster works |
| 03:04.50 | Aqua | i use all the time |
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| 03:13.33 | AnduinLothar | lol... i got coppied to the PTR with General Vezax's Corrupted Wisdom debuff... |
| 03:13.42 | AnduinLothar | in Dalaran |
| 03:15.30 | AnduinLothar | oh nifty... Item Level in tooltips by default |
| 03:16.27 | AnduinLothar | crashed the ptr... |
| 03:18.24 | Fisker | drowns AnduinLothar |
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| 03:19.37 | AnduinLothar | gurgles |
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| 03:21.11 | NightHawkTheSane | hah, the last line of oots is great |
| 03:21.54 | AnduinLothar | hey there's a portal to the blasted lands in IF now.. |
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| 03:28.59 | AnduinLothar | LOL my char got copied over with Seal of the Martyr |
| 03:29.37 | Fisker | You're gonna get it now |
| 03:30.27 | AnduinLothar | crashed again |
| 03:30.58 | AnduinLothar | Error: EXC_BAD_ACCESS KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE 0x00000000 |
| 03:31.19 | Corrodias | what the heck does that mean, i wonder |
| 03:31.32 | NightHawkTheSane | kerning protection failure! oh noes! |
| 03:31.46 | Corrodias | you'd better backup your fonts |
| 03:32.00 | AnduinLothar | crashed again |
| 03:32.12 | AnduinLothar | i think it's my General Vezax debuff |
| 03:33.03 | Gnarfoz | reported |
| 03:33.08 | Gnarfoz | you hacker you! |
| 03:33.15 | Gnarfoz | !!1 |
| 03:34.33 | AnduinLothar | 2197 mana back from Judgements of the Wise :) |
| 03:35.06 | AnduinLothar | infinite mana lol |
| 03:36.07 | Ycarene | So, would I be able to do naxx with my rogue? http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Ycarene |
| 03:36.31 | AnduinLothar | 4200 Judgement of Vengence crits yum |
| 03:36.53 | AnduinLothar | 4660 |
| 03:39.24 | AnduinLothar | haha FoL is HoT |
| 03:40.40 | AnduinLothar | total pally arena buff, i love it |
| 03:41.00 | AnduinLothar | vengence dot on the target the whole time will be very nice |
| 03:46.10 | AnduinLothar | 4800 |
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| 03:47.51 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster dont hate |
| 03:48.18 | Fisker | i hate |
| 03:48.19 | AnduinLothar | 5348 |
| 03:48.55 | sylvanaar | people need to learn to write chat filters without side-effects. |
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| 03:50.34 | tekkub | it's not hard... |
| 03:50.49 | tekkub | are people still hooking? |
| 03:54.21 | sylvanaar | well - i am, but prat is a little different as we all know |
| 03:54.53 | sylvanaar | however - chatfilters should not have side effects. this is a truism whether prat is involved or not |
| 03:55.22 | AnduinLothar | lulz, a recent truism |
| 03:55.36 | sylvanaar | that or they need to be idempotent |
| 03:56.14 | AnduinLothar | lol, why am i still glowing black sparklies from the vezax debuff even tho i dont have it? |
| 03:56.19 | AnduinLothar | cool glow tho |
| 03:56.28 | AnduinLothar | it's like a full body enchant |
| 03:56.31 | sylvanaar | most people dont understand the implications of side effects on chatfilters... |
| 03:56.37 | Aqua | anyone have a experience in C# that could toss me a an idea on how to solve a small problem? |
| 03:56.52 | sylvanaar | just ask |
| 03:57.32 | Aqua | without writing my own exception class, anyone know how to throw a "more user friendly" exception |
| 03:57.42 | Aqua | in C# |
| 03:57.55 | sylvanaar | just pick one thats close to what you want and throw it |
| 03:58.13 | Aqua | why did i know that you were gonna say that |
| 03:58.40 | sylvanaar | all you had to do was click your heels 3 times |
| 03:58.52 | Aqua | wtb grep for c# |
| 03:59.43 | AnduinLothar | holy shit... |
| 03:59.57 | sylvanaar | you have MSDN |
| 04:00.00 | sylvanaar | it has search |
| 04:00.09 | sylvanaar | or you can search in the object browser |
| 04:00.25 | AnduinLothar | they added the ItemRack item lists... |
| 04:00.53 | Aqua | nevermind, i been at this too long |
| 04:00.57 | Aqua | I know the answer to my own problem |
| 04:00.57 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 04:01.32 | Aqua | a lot easier when your awake and your paying attention |
| 04:01.42 | sylvanaar | indeed |
| 04:03.00 | Aqua | try {} catch (exception e) { console.writeline(e.message)}; |
| 04:03.10 | Aqua | bonks himself on the noggin |
| 04:05.03 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 04:06.36 | Aqua | yea, i know |
| 04:06.46 | Aqua | I feel so stupid |
| 04:07.27 | AnduinLothar | hay, there's a LFG option for daily dungeon/heroic |
| 04:07.30 | Wobin | argh |
| 04:07.31 | Wobin | Please describe 3 key achievements you are most proud of. These can come from your work, study or personal life. |
| 04:07.37 | Wobin | I -hate- these sorts of questions |
| 04:07.43 | Corrodias | massive porn collection |
| 04:07.44 | Aqua | agrees |
| 04:08.04 | AnduinLothar | i'm proud of my 30" |
| 04:09.32 | Corrodias | ...do you have special pants or something? |
| 04:10.27 | Aqua | I'm proud i own a color tv.... |
| 04:11.00 | ZorbaTHut | ugh, the new quest location interface is annoying |
| 04:11.16 | ZorbaTHut | sometimes I swear Blizzard goes to extra effort to make UI mods harder |
| 04:12.26 | Aqua | They put in the extra effort to make people angrier |
| 04:12.28 | Aqua | *more angry |
| 04:26.08 | ZorbaTHut | seriously blizzard, just hide *less info* and it will be strictly more useful |
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| 04:37.12 | bluspacecow | hai |
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| 04:43.17 | Shirik | Iriel: Question, do you use photoshop? |
| 04:43.22 | Shirik | after touching up with lightroom |
| 04:46.22 | ZorbaTHut | anyone know if something really bad happens if you call SetMapZoom while the player is looking at the map, then reset it again before the next frame? |
| 04:47.10 | bluspacecow | mogwai will mutiply ? |
| 04:47.39 | End | my impression was that most map operations occur immediately, but I haven't touched map stuff in a long time |
| 04:48.07 | ZorbaTHut | I know astrolabe goes to some lengths to avoid doing that, but that may just be because astrolabe is meant to do so frequently whereas I'd be doing so extremely rarely |
| 04:49.32 | End | I dunno, mutliple SetMapZooms seem ok |
| 04:49.40 | End | I don't remember how to reset the map offhand though |
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| 04:50.39 | Iriel | Shirik: Rarely, if ever. |
| 04:50.47 | ZorbaTHut | well, I might be able to just get the current map zoom, then set it to that later. I think that's possible. |
| 04:50.51 | Shirik | lightroom is sufficient for you? |
| 04:51.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I hate people who use the esset in place of a B |
| 04:51.06 | ZorbaTHut | or, worst-case, hook SetMapZoom and record its results. |
| 04:51.21 | bluspacecow | esset ? |
| 04:51.23 | bluspacecow | what dat ? |
| 04:51.24 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: ... what? |
| 04:51.31 | ScytheBlade1 | alt+0223 on a windows machine |
| 04:51.37 | End | the double s? |
| 04:51.39 | bluspacecow | is that the inifinity symbol ? |
| 04:51.41 | ScytheBlade1 | aye |
| 04:51.46 | ScytheBlade1 | no @ infinity |
| 04:52.14 | bluspacecow | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esset |
| 04:52.19 | End | it's a german symbole primarily |
| 04:52.19 | bluspacecow | looks like a B to me |
| 04:52.20 | End | isn't it? |
| 04:52.24 | End | yea |
| 04:52.26 | bluspacecow | yep yep |
| 04:52.33 | ScytheBlade1 | That's not a B, that's a german letter for "ss" |
| 04:52.33 | bluspacecow | The letter à (Unicode U+00DF) is a ligature in the German alphabet |
| 04:52.43 | bluspacecow | ~wiki esset |
| 04:53.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Saw a guy on the forums named "Ãrutalstorm" and went "that makes NO sens-- oh, another stupid person" |
| 04:53.38 | bluspacecow | still looks like a B to me ...it may not in fact be a B but it still looks like one to me |
| 04:53.46 | End | it looks like one |
| 04:54.53 | ScytheBlade1 | a lot of the basic accented vowels at least sound somewhat familiar, but à sounds NOTHING at all like a B |
| 04:55.09 | bluspacecow | make a ssssssssssssss sound ? |
| 04:55.13 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 04:55.13 | bluspacecow | like hisssssssssss ? |
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| 04:56.45 | Fisker | i will destroy you |
| 05:01.25 | tekkub | WOOOO! |
| 05:01.33 | tekkub | new shit added to lootwhore |
| 05:01.48 | bluspacecow | ~lootwhore |
| 05:02.09 | Fisker | lootwhore sucks |
| 05:02.46 | tekkub | lootwhore.tekkub.net |
| 05:03.17 | bluspacecow | mmm |
| 05:03.21 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 05:03.27 | bluspacecow | yr site or the addon tekkub ? |
| 05:03.37 | End | maybe its both |
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| 05:03.58 | End | oops |
| 05:04.02 | bluspacecow | hai torhal |
| 05:04.04 | End | maybe I should use the right weight scale |
| 05:04.16 | End | amd |
| 05:04.18 | End | and |
| 05:04.21 | End | click on the right button |
| 05:04.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I love how the faction change announcement is up to 259 pages now |
| 05:04.43 | bluspacecow | whats the "wtf chuck" catergory for ? |
| 05:05.08 | End | hm |
| 05:05.15 | End | lootwhore is neat :P |
| 05:07.39 | Torhal | bluspacecow: Yola. |
| 05:07.56 | bluspacecow | fishing daily == Ghostfish on Muradin |
| 05:07.58 | bluspacecow | *cry* |
| 05:13.50 | Fisker | oh no |
| 05:13.54 | Fisker | i'm killing you Torhal :( |
| 05:13.56 | Fisker | i'm such a jerk |
| 05:13.56 | airtonix | burning crusade heroics still require toon to be lvl70? |
| 05:14.48 | *** join/#wowuidev Fisker (i=ballmer@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 05:16.38 | Fisker | haha Shirik |
| 05:16.42 | Fisker | sun fails so much |
| 05:17.19 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:17.25 | Zhinjio | Torhal: sup. |
| 05:17.34 | Fisker | giggles |
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| 05:23.17 | Fisker | RAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWRGH |
| 05:24.39 | Aqua | i just broke the enter key on my keyboard |
| 05:25.35 | Fisker | i just enraged |
| 05:25.51 | End | resets Fisker. |
| 05:26.26 | Fisker | my rage never ends |
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| 05:27.26 | Aqua | so your rage is alpha and omega eh? |
| 05:27.51 | bluspacecow | the begginning and the ending ? |
| 05:27.53 | bluspacecow | exodus > |
| 05:27.55 | bluspacecow | ? |
| 05:30.21 | Aqua | yea |
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| 05:55.14 | Torhal | Fisker: I'm already dead. |
| 05:55.36 | Thunder_Child | bluspacecow, thats a transliteration actualy |
| 05:55.48 | bluspacecow | ? |
| 05:55.51 | Fisker | but only because i killed you Torhal |
| 05:56.01 | bluspacecow | to which do you refer as a transliteration my dear > |
| 05:56.08 | Thunder_Child | alpha and omega never meant begning and end |
| 05:56.20 | Thunder_Child | it was simply the first and last letters of the alphabet |
| 05:56.26 | bluspacecow | i was adlibbing from memory of Scripture |
| 05:56.35 | bluspacecow | when god reveals himself to moses |
| 05:56.40 | End | get all your vitamins |
| 05:56.43 | End | from alpha to omega |
| 05:56.47 | bluspacecow | makes a big speech about being so really really awesome |
| 05:56.49 | Fisker | Thunder_Child lololol what comes after O? |
| 05:56.50 | Fisker | hohoho |
| 05:56.57 | bluspacecow | P! |
| 05:57.25 | Thunder_Child | Fisker, Qoppa |
| 05:57.29 | Thunder_Child | but it is depricated |
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| 06:22.15 | Thunder_Child | isnt there an unstuck command |
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| 06:23.34 | bleeter | http://img2.moonbuggy.org/imgstore/what-would-bacon-do.jpg |
| 06:25.08 | zenzio | "HTML Tags For Academic Printing? [...] {page size="A4" borders="2.5cm,2.5cm,2cm,2cm" page_numbering="bottomleft,startfrom0"} â You get the idea... { /page} [...] Is this such a crazy idea? What would you advise?" |
| 06:25.11 | zenzio | "You seem to be talking about LaTex. It already exists. Don't reinvent it." |
| 06:25.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^^ |
| 06:27.23 | bleeter | bacon wouldn't reinvent it |
| 06:27.42 | nevcairiel | bacon would just make me eat it |
| 06:28.00 | bleeter | nevcairiel: I hope you looked at WWBD pic |
| 06:28.26 | nevcairiel | I did, and i would eat the bacon of that thing =P |
| 06:29.22 | bleeter | nevcairiel: I'm meant to be going out for dinner to a snobby joint tonight.. but now all I want is bacon |
| 06:29.40 | Fisker | kicks bleeter in the face |
| 06:29.49 | nevcairiel | I just woke up, and the first thing someone links on irc is bacon .. thats going to be a bacon-y day =P |
| 06:30.30 | bleeter | nevcairiel: Friday AND bacon day? you can tell it's just got AWESOME written everywhere :) |
| 06:31.08 | Thunder_Child | "Current-day magnetic memory is already nanotechnology under the loose definition, involving 5-nanometer particles of cobalt (having about 50,000 atoms). The authors have shown that a single molecule consisting of a cobalt dimer sitting on top of a benzene ring would have a high enough magnetic anisotropy to store a bit magnetically." |
| 06:33.40 | nevcairiel | bleeter: except that the too hot weather woke me up way too early <.< |
| 06:34.23 | Duman | unf |
| 06:34.27 | bleeter | nevcairiel: bacon will make you feel better |
| 06:34.54 | bleeter | nevcairiel: find some shop with some AC and say 'I need bacon to ward off this heat!' They will understand |
| 06:35.03 | nevcairiel | Haha |
| 06:35.20 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, can you have cart 3 recive WG info from those that are outside of an instance though the giuld? |
| 06:35.21 | nevcairiel | I should get a big pack of bacon and drive around in the underground all day |
| 06:35.26 | nevcairiel | Its so cool in there |
| 06:35.45 | bleeter | you'd end up like the pied piper, people following you around going 'mmm bacon' |
| 06:35.59 | airtonix | related to nanotech : black diamonds |
| 06:36.13 | airtonix | synthetic black diamonds |
| 06:36.29 | airtonix | im fairly ignorant about the topic |
| 06:36.55 | bleeter | any OSX 10.4 users out there? when does this java update from hell series finish? I've gone through ~R4 to R9 so far and I'm punching small animals it's so annoying |
| 06:44.55 | bluspacecow | via Software Update ? |
| 06:46.46 | zenzio | bleeter: they just like blinking the Software Update icon to show off the feature |
| 06:47.53 | bleeter | zenzio: I've been spoiled lots with Fedora's 'new' Presto feature for the past year or more |
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| 06:48.38 | zenzio | I have no idea what that implies; I was just expressing how annoying I find the suddenly jumping icons in MacOS X :-p |
| 06:48.47 | Corrodias | hm. the windows one only goes up to "update 7" for now. |
| 06:52.38 | bleeter | yup, R9 was the last... but it's enough update from hell that I never want to go near another OSX install again |
| 06:52.45 | bleeter | kinda like dealing with Blizz's PTR |
| 06:52.51 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 06:53.10 | bluspacecow | thats why i keep backs of all the patchs and all the apple software update updaters |
| 06:53.30 | bleeter | bluspacecow: first time I've ever owned a Mac, so some of those saving tricks I didn't know |
| 06:54.02 | bluspacecow | what version of OS X ? |
| 06:54.05 | bleeter | 10.4 |
| 06:54.12 | bleeter | it's enough to drive a guy to bacon, I tell ya |
| 06:54.25 | bluspacecow | what version of 10.4 ? |
| 06:54.41 | bluspacecow | thought the latest combo os x update would of included all the security updates |
| 06:54.43 | bluspacecow | oh wait |
| 06:54.48 | bleeter | except Java! :P |
| 06:54.50 | bluspacecow | Java not Security update |
| 06:55.29 | bleeter | I'd done some patching, my brother gave me the combo, the software updater was telling me it had to patch java, so I ran the combo, it did some other silent patching, then I still had to do java R6-9 or some shizz |
| 06:55.49 | bleeter | it's done.. I've had enough.. turned it off for now |
| 06:55.54 | bluspacecow | i usaully ignore the java updates |
| 06:56.05 | bluspacecow | i dont use a lot of java apps |
| 06:56.11 | bluspacecow | nore many sites that use java |
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| 06:56.21 | bleeter | yeah first time with new OS, hard to tell what to avoid what to keep, needed them locally anyways so I could burn them onto CD |
| 06:56.21 | bluspacecow | runs fine so no need for an update |
| 06:58.08 | bluspacecow | do you know theres an option in S/u to ignore updates ? |
| 06:58.32 | bleeter | I will when I re-partition n stuff so there's space for linux, and I put OSX on again ;) |
| 06:59.14 | bleeter | general idea will be if I have to run OSX stuff, it'll be via M-O-L |
| 06:59.24 | bluspacecow | ? |
| 06:59.28 | bleeter | mac-on-linux |
| 06:59.42 | bluspacecow | sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet |
| 07:00.48 | bluspacecow | shaman Question : are my shocks meant to interrupt channeled spells ? |
| 07:01.32 | zenzio | I can't actually say for sure, but I thought that an interrupt was an interrupt, period |
| 07:01.33 | durcyn | you can interrupt casts with earth and wind, most shamans use flame shock for dps |
| 07:01.55 | durcyn | and in a raid setting, shaman interrupts are usually inferior, shorter lockout period etc |
| 07:02.14 | bluspacecow | thats weird cause im using my earth and wind on these mobs in borean and it doesnt interrupt their casting |
| 07:02.25 | durcyn | not every spell is interruptible |
| 07:02.39 | nevcairiel | wait for 3.2, and it'll tell you if the spell is interruptabe :D |
| 07:02.49 | nevcairiel | +l |
| 07:03.05 | zenzio | bluspacecow: which mob/spell? |
| 07:03.33 | bluspacecow | coldrock quarry beryl treasure hunter . their focus beam |
| 07:04.33 | durcyn | yeah, not interruptible. |
| 07:04.42 | durcyn | i just did that on my rogue the other day |
| 07:04.50 | bluspacecow | oh well |
| 07:04.55 | bluspacecow | i can deal with it |
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| 07:16.34 | Shirik | bleeter: If you have to run OSX stuff, you should try slitting your wrists instead |
| 07:17.31 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 07:17.35 | Fisker | did you know Sun sucks? :3 |
| 07:17.48 | Shirik | does that mean the moon blows? |
| 07:17.52 | Fisker | no |
| 07:17.57 | bleeter | Shirik: I got an iMac for free for doing about 5 mins of user support, also got some beers for my 5 mins of troubles too. have been promised more free beer in future for more support |
| 07:18.03 | Fisker | because i'm talking about Sun Microsystems "Sun" |
| 07:18.04 | Fisker | :3 |
| 07:18.08 | bleeter | Shirik: I figure having to learn a bit of OSX is the least I could do ;) |
| 07:18.28 | Shirik | Fisker: Maybe they have a product named Moon |
| 07:18.30 | Shirik | you don't know |
| 07:18.30 | bleeter | Fisker: huh, you just entered the 1990's as well, eh? :P |
| 07:19.11 | Fisker | i lol'd @ VirtualBox though Shirik |
| 07:19.15 | Fisker | it asks me to register an account |
| 07:19.22 | Fisker | so i fill in all the details and press "Register" |
| 07:19.27 | bluspacecow | if i make in change in layoutcache.wtf will /console reloadui show the change ? |
| 07:19.33 | Fisker | "Invalid IP Address" it tells me |
| 07:19.34 | Fisker | :( |
| 07:20.15 | Fisker | pretty neat though |
| 07:20.23 | bleeter | bluspacecow: nah, it'll save your current UI over the top |
| 07:20.25 | Fisker | 64-bit support and DirectX support |
| 07:20.31 | bleeter | bluspacecow: exit the game, change the file, log back in |
| 07:20.37 | bleeter | at least, that's how I understand it works |
| 07:20.40 | bluspacecow | dont wanna |
| 07:20.55 | bluspacecow | *fires up MoveAnything and the addons lua in TW* |
| 07:21.07 | bluspacecow | right wheres that damn frame of my addon gone ... |
| 07:21.45 | bleeter | prolly offscreen 'coz you didn't clamp it? |
| 07:21.53 | bleeter | though I have no idea if clamping's still necessary |
| 07:22.17 | bleeter | should be on by default, and only disabled when required... I seem to recall it behaves the other way though |
| 07:22.19 | bluspacecow | idk its lootcount ...cant find the window anywhere on screen ... assume its off screen somewhere ... |
| 07:25.34 | Shirik | so |
| 07:25.37 | Shirik | autostitch is pretty powerful |
| 07:26.18 | Thunder_Child | not enough |
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| 07:28.00 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:28.05 | Fisker | who did you stich up? |
| 07:29.43 | Fisker | MY EYES |
| 07:31.04 | Kalroth | put the mirror down! |
| 07:31.22 | bluspacecow | thats weird ...before /lootcount not bringing up its frame ...i open the sv files and layout cached files , no chnages and try teh command again no up now ? |
| 07:31.36 | zenzio | hm... GIMP's "layer mask from greyscale copy of layer" worked remarkably well for this picture :-o |
| 07:35.26 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: I had no problems with it |
| 07:35.33 | Shirik | admittedly I only did a 1D pan today |
| 07:35.40 | Shirik | but it was pretty powreful |
| 07:35.44 | Shirik | I didn't really have to do anything |
| 07:35.54 | Shirik | and this is literally the first time I tried something like this |
| 07:36.17 | Shirik | my problem with it is that it doesn't support RAW, so I have to make the touchups in lightroom first and then hope I don't have to make more touchups post-stitch |
| 07:36.56 | Thunder_Child | NOT ENOUGH you cantankerous CE |
| 07:37.20 | Shirik | :( |
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| 07:40.21 | Thunder_Child | is it really that important to touch them up? |
| 07:40.33 | zenzio | for crying out loud; why can't I recall where to set the layout of workspaces in Xfce :-| |
| 07:40.36 | Thunder_Child | i dont think i have ever touched my pictures up before posting them |
| 07:41.16 | zenzio | oh, right... beacuse it's not in the Workspace config... it's in the Pager config o_O |
| 07:43.09 | Shirik | hm, its memory usage is a bit crazy Thunder_Child |
| 07:43.16 | Shirik | I can't get it to do a full-quality image :( |
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| 07:43.41 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, same |
| 07:44.57 | Shirik | what do you use to stitch images? |
| 07:44.58 | Shirik | photoshop? |
| 07:45.43 | bluspacecow | scissors |
| 07:45.45 | bluspacecow | and tape |
| 07:46.00 | nevcairiel | duct tape can stitch anything |
| 07:46.07 | bluspacecow | word |
| 07:46.14 | Shirik | ~duct tape |
| 07:46.15 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, duct tape is the greatest invention of all mankind, or holds the universe together |
| 07:46.24 | Shirik | factinfo duct tape |
| 07:46.28 | Shirik | ~factinfo duct tape |
| 07:46.28 | purl | duct tape -- last modified at Sat Mar 27 01:45:08 2004 by doughecka!~rooot@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net; it has been requested 4 times, last by Shirik, 13s ago. |
| 07:46.29 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, it does have a nice script for doing panoramas |
| 07:46.31 | bluspacecow | ~tape Bluspacedcow |
| 07:46.35 | Shirik | yeah screw that |
| 07:46.53 | Thunder_Child | or http://hugin.sourceforge.net/ |
| 07:46.56 | Thunder_Child | is rather nice |
| 07:47.00 | Shirik | purl, no, duct tape is like the force: it has a dark side, a light side, and it holds the universe together |
| 07:47.00 | purl | okay, Shirik |
| 07:47.12 | bluspacecow | ~ducttape |
| 07:47.13 | purl | You only need two things to fix anything. Ducttape and WD-40. If it sticks and it shouldn't use WD40, if it doesn't and it should use Ducttape. |
| 07:47.33 | Fisker | http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/07/03/confirmed-windows-7-set-to-rtm-on-july-13th <-yay |
| 07:47.49 | nevcairiel | july 13th is my birthday .. i share it with win7 rtm .. yay :P |
| 07:47.52 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Unfortunately at the present moment I do not have that :) |
| 07:48.00 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, it's free |
| 07:48.09 | Shirik | isn't that a photoshop plugin? |
| 07:48.24 | Thunder_Child | um, no? |
| 07:48.33 | Shirik | oh ok |
| 07:48.58 | bluspacecow | lolz i thought rtm as in read the manual |
| 07:50.10 | Shirik | huh |
| 07:50.11 | Shirik | hey Thunder_Child |
| 07:50.18 | Thunder_Child | yes Shirik? |
| 07:50.19 | Shirik | did you take a look at the install details while you were installing? |
| 07:50.29 | Shirik | it uses autopano :) |
| 07:50.34 | Shirik | which is how autostitch works too |
| 07:50.53 | Thunder_Child | unlike them however it can do full size images |
| 07:51.20 | Thunder_Child | actually Shirik, i think autopano uses autostich |
| 07:51.25 | Shirik | oh |
| 07:51.55 | bluspacecow | auto pants |
| 07:51.58 | Thunder_Child | or that mathimatical formula anyway |
| 07:52.07 | bluspacecow | theres software out there to put your pants on for you ? |
| 07:52.10 | bluspacecow | win ! |
| 07:52.42 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: I'm using the assistant, is that what you do? |
| 07:52.49 | Shirik | Because when I hit align it says this |
| 07:52.50 | Shirik | width 5616 height 3744 |
| 07:52.51 | Shirik | reduce size to 1600 x 1067 |
| 07:52.55 | Shirik | which makes me nervous |
| 07:53.04 | Thunder_Child | it is the correct ratio |
| 07:53.14 | Shirik | but it's also a loss of quality |
| 07:53.15 | Thunder_Child | i think |
| 07:53.23 | durcyn | bleeter: looks like just pressing backspace on the software update dialog removes the entry |
| 07:53.33 | Thunder_Child | quality is relative |
| 07:54.11 | Thunder_Child | try it both ways and see if you can tell the diff |
| 08:00.34 | Thunder_Child | i come up with some weird shit when i talk to myself. my bread wasnt 'burnt' it was 'uncomfortably(sp?) toasted' |
| 08:00.34 | batbot | Thunder_Child, uncomfortably is correct. |
| 08:00.44 | bluspacecow | BBL need foods |
| 08:04.21 | Shirik | this is a good tool Thunder_Child |
| 08:04.24 | Shirik | thanks :D |
| 08:04.52 | Thunder_Child | ^_^ |
| 08:07.23 | Shirik | to answer your question, Thunder_Child, yes shots do need to be touched up |
| 08:07.31 | Shirik | cannot deliver unclean pictures! |
| 08:07.49 | Shirik | also, hugin seems to be dealing with the overwhelming request I gave it much better |
| 08:08.08 | Shirik | it looks like it downsizes the images only for the point detection phase |
| 08:08.53 | Thunder_Child | there is a diff between 'fixing' and 'enhancing' |
| 08:10.10 | Fisker | I. AM. UNSTOPPABLE. |
| 08:12.32 | Industrial | np August Burns Red - Carol Of The Bells |
| 08:13.00 | Industrial | they have a christmas song (and they are supposedly a christian metal band, I dont give a rats ass) |
| 08:13.09 | Fisker | nk Industrial fy |
| 08:13.24 | Industrial | it immediately gives me the cradle of filth feeling |
| 08:13.39 | Industrial | while the rest of their music does not, but its the same kind of music |
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| 08:27.33 | Shirik | Fisker: I disagree |
| 08:27.57 | Thunder_Child | prove it |
| 08:29.11 | Shirik | anyway Thunder_Child, I think that turned out pretty well :) |
| 08:29.26 | Shirik | http://darkroommaster.deviantart.com/art/Glow-of-the-Wise-128115306 |
| 08:29.30 | Shirik | For my first panorama, at least |
| 08:29.34 | Shirik | I'll take it |
| 08:30.37 | Thunder_Child | why is it so small!!! |
| 08:30.49 | Shirik | uh |
| 08:30.54 | Shirik | did you download it? |
| 08:31.01 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 08:31.07 | Shirik | I can't make it any bigger |
| 08:31.09 | Shirik | download it |
| 08:31.40 | Thunder_Child | you forgot to choose to keep it origional size when you upped didnt you? |
| 08:31.54 | Thunder_Child | http://thunder-child.deviantart.com/art/Los-Angeles-Panorama-1-109728209 <- origional size |
| 08:32.09 | Shirik | I can do that? |
| 08:32.14 | Grum | OMG black pixalz on the topleft |
| 08:32.16 | Thunder_Child | go to edit deviation |
| 08:32.28 | Thunder_Child | then fullview size |
| 08:32.46 | Shirik | ic |
| 08:32.47 | Shirik | fixed |
| 08:32.48 | Thunder_Child | heh Grum, i didnt cut perfectly it would seem |
| 08:33.06 | Grum | OMG BOTTOM RIGHT AS WELL! |
| 08:33.11 | Grum | dies from black pixels |
| 08:34.58 | Shirik | Grum: mine? |
| 08:35.03 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, really high ISO? |
| 08:35.09 | Shirik | not "really high" |
| 08:35.18 | Grum | no the one Thunder_Child linked |
| 08:35.38 | Shirik | actually it's just ISO 200 Thunder_Child |
| 08:35.47 | Shirik | I blame any artifacts you're seeing on the fact that I had to manipulate in JPEG |
| 08:35.49 | Shirik | instead of RAW |
| 08:36.21 | Thunder_Child | uhh..is a full pic blur an 'artifact'? |
| 08:37.54 | Shirik | ... what? |
| 08:37.59 | Shirik | wtf are you looking at |
| 08:38.55 | Thunder_Child | your picture |
| 08:39.41 | Shirik | this is going to take forever to download |
| 08:39.52 | Shirik | what is blurred |
| 08:40.33 | Thunder_Child | nvm me |
| 08:40.52 | Shirik | I'm confused |
| 08:41.59 | Thunder_Child | i think it is that at 100% res there are no crisp edges |
| 08:42.25 | Shirik | that's probably because (1) it was modified in JPEG, and (2) it was taken at about 1/10 sec |
| 08:42.37 | Shirik | the JPEG part is probably more of the problem, really |
| 08:43.29 | Shirik | the light was a lot lower than the shot makes it seem |
| 08:43.38 | Shirik | I'm lucky it came out this way |
| 08:43.46 | Shirik | anyway I'm going to sleep, night |
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| 10:43.41 | Aelobin | anyone here watch Prison Break? |
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| 10:45.05 | bluspacecow | nom nom nom nom nom (finishes Dinner) |
| 10:48.01 | nevcairiel | I did watch prison break, but its all over now |
| 10:50.05 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:54.09 | Elkano | I'm still missing the last few episodes |
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| 11:15.01 | Wobin | hm |
| 11:15.26 | Wobin | anyone have a link to that wow comic that had the npcs encounter a hunter feign death? |
| 11:16.16 | Hjalte | Wobin: I don't think this is it, but this is good! http://www.darklegacycomics.com/ |
| 11:16.19 | Spellbinder | maybe hold on |
| 11:16.27 | Spellbinder | unless it is that |
| 11:22.03 | Spellbinder | doesn't seems like it Wobin |
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| 11:22.14 | Spellbinder | thought the guys in wowhead would know |
| 11:22.25 | Spellbinder | and they might but no answer so far |
| 11:26.53 | Fisker | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/20.html ? |
| 11:32.04 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:32.24 | bluspacecow | ~fondle Wobin |
| 11:32.34 | Wobin | ta fisk |
| 11:34.22 | bluspacecow | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/23.html |
| 11:34.37 | bluspacecow | rofls AQ40 opening event |
| 11:35.23 | Grum | DLC is awesome :D |
| 11:40.00 | Grum | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/33.html .. :P |
| 11:40.17 | bluspacecow | the early stuff is still strangely funny |
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| 11:40.23 | Grum | yeah |
| 11:40.27 | Grum | just looking at it |
| 11:40.35 | Grum | that guy got WAY more skilled though |
| 11:40.54 | bluspacecow | oooo random buton |
| 11:40.55 | zenzio | bluspacecow: that comic strip is incredibly accurate :-o |
| 11:41.04 | Grum | those facial expressions are just beyond anything i've seen sofar |
| 11:41.07 | bluspacecow | which one ? |
| 11:41.22 | Grum | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/35.html <-- look at the cat in the second row, first column:P |
| 11:44.20 | bluspacecow | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/68.html ROLFZ mmo confusion |
| 11:45.02 | Grum | haha |
| 11:46.56 | Grum | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/74.html |
| 11:47.04 | Grum | it illustrates so many things so well ;D |
| 11:47.29 | bluspacecow | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/120.html |
| 11:47.57 | Grum | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/75.html <-- i think the first real appearance of Donald:p |
| 11:49.05 | bluspacecow | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/62.html |
| 11:49.18 | Grum | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/77.html ..lol :P |
| 11:50.48 | Grum | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/78.html <-- haha i remember that bug well :D |
| 11:53.11 | Grum | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/85.html .. grin |
| 11:54.33 | Wobin | I actually vaugely recall they had to change the water level in BM |
| 11:54.48 | Wobin | Or is that a made up memory? |
| 11:54.57 | Grum | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/89.html <-- :P |
| 11:55.00 | Grum | no they did :) |
| 11:55.06 | Grum | they made it less deep |
| 11:55.12 | Grum | same in dustwallow marsh :D |
| 11:58.31 | bluspacecow | i like new york in june ......how about you ? |
| 11:58.44 | bluspacecow | i like a gershwin tune ...... how about you ? |
| 11:59.30 | Grum | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/100.html ... lol after the other BM one =) |
| 12:03.08 | Grum | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/109.html .. :D |
| 12:03.43 | Zyndrome | sure is links in here |
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| 12:12.25 | Grum | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/139.html ... Sunwell island ... i remember this well ;) |
| 12:15.43 | Cruciformer | 'lo all |
| 12:16.20 | bluspacecow | herro Cruci baby |
| 12:17.21 | bluspacecow | tetrahydrocannabinols |
| 12:17.26 | bluspacecow | dimethylaminoethanol |
| 12:17.30 | bluspacecow | wot dat ? |
| 12:17.43 | Cruciformer | the first is THC, the active ingredient in pot |
| 12:17.56 | Cruciformer | dunno the second |
| 12:18.08 | Grum | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/151.html |
| 12:18.33 | bluspacecow | comes back as a component in paint strippper i wow wiki |
| 12:18.33 | tlund | Dimethylaminoethanol is used as a curing agent for polyurethanes and epoxy resins. |
| 12:19.11 | bluspacecow | ~wiki dimethylaminoethanol |
| 12:19.11 | tlund | bluspacecow: if you want to look up chemicals, maby wow woki is not the best place? *hint* |
| 12:19.45 | bluspacecow | where would you suggest :D |
| 12:20.05 | Cruciformer | can any of you Lua pattern experts tell me a patter that matches all characters in a string except the first? |
| 12:20.39 | tlund | ^.(.)*$ |
| 12:20.40 | krka | "^.(.*)$" |
| 12:20.45 | Cruciformer | I tried "[^.](.*)" |
| 12:20.46 | tlund | krka: SMURF! |
| 12:20.50 | krka | aww :( |
| 12:20.58 | tlund | Cruciformer: thats just all wrong. |
| 12:21.09 | krka | barnsligt att smurfa |
| 12:21.19 | tlund | Cruciformer: that matches forst "one character, but not a period" and then "everyting else, and put that in a grouping" |
| 12:21.41 | bluspacecow | s/forst/first// |
| 12:21.49 | tlund | ^. and [^.] might look alike, but its two completly different things :) |
| 12:22.14 | Grum | between [] the . is literal |
| 12:22.17 | bluspacecow | I just see a wink , a black hole then an earrubg |
| 12:22.41 | bluspacecow | s/hole/eye |
| 12:23.21 | Cruciformer | tlund: ah. I only just woke up so my regexp subsystem hasnt booted yet :) |
| 12:23.36 | Grum | Cruciformer: lua's patterns are no regexes |
| 12:23.51 | Cruciformer | they're close enough for government work |
| 12:24.13 | Grum | err no :) |
| 12:36.28 | Cruciformer | is this the best way of capitalising the first character in a users name: name = string.gsub (string.lower (name), "^.", string.upper) |
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| 12:42.01 | Arrowmaster | Cruciformer: no |
| 12:42.33 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster: oh :( What is? |
| 12:45.46 | Cruciformer | or more to the point whats wrong with that so I can fix it myself. |
| 12:45.51 | Arrowmaster | sec |
| 12:45.54 | Cruciformer | kk |
| 12:47.51 | Arrowmaster | string.gsub(name, "^([\192-\255]?%a?[\128-\191]*)", string.upper, 1) |
| 12:48.47 | Cruciformer | yowzers |
| 12:49.46 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.gsub("äåé®þüúÃóö«»áÃðø¶æñµç¿", "^([\192-\255]?%a?[\128-\191]*)", string.upper, 1) |
| 12:49.47 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: äåé®þüúÃóö«»áÃðø¶æñµç¿, 1 |
| 12:50.01 | Arrowmaster | except in wow it would work |
| 12:50.13 | Arrowmaster | since wow's string.upper can understand utf8 |
| 12:50.39 | Cruciformer | lua> string.gsub ("FOOBAR", "^([\192-\255]?%a?[\128-\191]*)", string.upper, 1) |
| 12:50.41 | lua_bot | Cruciformer: FOOBAR, 1 |
| 12:50.51 | Cruciformer | fail ... the rest of the string is still upper |
| 12:51.12 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.gsub(string.lower("FOOBAR"), "^([\192-\255]?%a?[\128-\191]*)", string.upper, 1) |
| 12:51.15 | Fisker | maybe lua_bot sucks donkey balls |
| 12:51.17 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: Foobar, 1 |
| 12:52.38 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster: Would you mind explaining the weird pattern and why its necessary? I prefer to understand the why's of things. |
| 12:53.16 | Arrowmaster | in wow, string.upper understands utf8 so it will change ä into à |
| 12:53.29 | Arrowmaster | but lua pattern matching doesnt understand utf8 |
| 12:54.01 | Arrowmaster | so something as simple as "^." wont work for multibyte utf8 characters |
| 12:54.17 | Cruciformer | aha |
| 12:54.41 | Cruciformer | which alt-sequence is that little-case a thing btw? |
| 12:55.08 | Arrowmaster | if you want the specifics of how that pattern works look up UTF-8 on wikipedia to see how multibyte utf8 characters are created |
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| 12:55.21 | Arrowmaster | i dont know i didnt type it with alt keycodes |
| 12:55.28 | Arrowmaster | i just typed altgr-q |
| 12:55.39 | Cruciformer | ah ok |
| 12:55.48 | Arrowmaster | the advantages of US International keyboard layout |
| 12:56.19 | Arrowmaster | or more specificly US International Reversed Deadkey keyboard layout if you can find it |
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| 13:00.17 | Lothaer | hey anyone here know anything about this "mod" called tweetcraft? |
| 13:00.22 | Arrowmaster | it sucks? |
| 13:00.37 | nevcairiel | It requires a reloadui to sync the data in/out |
| 13:00.40 | nevcairiel | if you wonder how it works =p |
| 13:00.43 | bluspacecow | yeah |
| 13:00.47 | bluspacecow | thats why it sucks |
| 13:01.09 | bluspacecow | you twitt you enter combat with the cat lady in uldaur |
| 13:01.14 | bluspacecow | *reloadui* |
| 13:01.19 | bluspacecow | you twitt you dead |
| 13:02.47 | nevcairiel | its your own damn fault for reloading during pull |
| 13:02.47 | Cruciformer | is it a safe assumption to make that all Blizzard functions (like Unitname ("player")) return a value where the first letter is capitalised? |
| 13:02.49 | bluspacecow | <---------------- listening to Theremin music |
| 13:02.58 | bluspacecow | its kinda freaky :D |
| 13:03.04 | Arrowmaster | Cruciformer: they all return the proper name of the character |
| 13:03.06 | Cruciformer | (all functions that deal with player names that is) |
| 13:04.22 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster: and that always has the first character upper case right?This is for cases where someone adds a user inmy mod but the user inst online to do a UnitName or whatever on. |
| 13:04.34 | Wobin | What's the limit on custom channels? |
| 13:04.38 | Cruciformer | i.e they call /ksk adduser foobar |
| 13:05.07 | Arrowmaster | Cruciformer: are the users all suppost to be in the same guild or anything? |
| 13:06.07 | Cruciformer | No I am supporting pugs as well so they could be in another guild |
| 13:06.18 | Arrowmaster | yeah use the pattern i gave you |
| 13:06.34 | Cruciformer | kk thanks again for your help Arrowmaster, very much appreciated. |
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| 13:06.56 | Wobin | oh 10 |
| 13:10.49 | bluspacecow | 9 |
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| 13:16.21 | Wobin | well, essentially 6 |
| 13:16.38 | Wobin | since General, Trade, LocalDefense and LFG concievably take up the first 4 |
| 13:18.14 | Cruciformer | Wobin: LFG = looking for guild inthis context or does the LF group mechanism use a channel too? |
| 13:18.31 | Wobin | for group |
| 13:18.32 | Wobin | hm |
| 13:18.49 | Cruciformer | they can also auto-join looking for guild if theyhave the option on |
| 13:19.07 | Cruciformer | so potentially just 5 channels then? |
| 13:19.23 | Wobin | yeah |
| 13:19.24 | Wobin | ugh |
| 13:19.29 | Wobin | that's really not much =( |
| 13:19.46 | Wobin | I might make this whole trend business optional |
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| 14:25.53 | Nafe | Wobin: I've gone for a while. What for are you utilizing custom channels to communicate? |
| 14:26.39 | Wobin | an attempt at utilising trending topics... but since my whole mechanism is distributed, it won't quite be the same |
| 14:27.10 | Wobin | I might just have it as an optional search method for terms |
| 14:27.32 | Wobin | http://www.wowace.com/projects/squawk/ |
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| 14:30.03 | Aelobin | an hour of boredom on vent: http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7292/aelobinvent.jpg |
| 14:31.28 | Kalroth | That took you an hour? :/ |
| 14:31.53 | Aelobin | well, within the last hour i did it :P |
| 14:32.00 | Aelobin | it wasn't a race xD |
| 14:32.31 | Kalroth | http://www.network-science.de/ascii/ascii.php?TEXT=Aelobin&x=25&y=8&FONT=_all+fonts+with+your+text_&RICH=no&FORM=left&STRE=no&WIDT=80 |
| 14:32.50 | Aelobin | idd that's where i got it from :) |
| 14:33.01 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:33.03 | Aelobin | but vent doesnt use set character widths |
| 14:33.04 | Kalroth | er |
| 14:33.07 | Kalroth | ah |
| 14:33.21 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:33.21 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:33.23 | Kalroth | There! |
| 14:33.25 | Aelobin | :P |
| 14:33.27 | Arrowmaster | it probably uses your default system font |
| 14:33.44 | Arrowmaster | so changing your theme in windows could change it |
| 14:34.06 | Aelobin | :o |
| 14:34.20 | Kalroth | using a fixed size font as a system font is rather poop though |
| 14:34.23 | Arrowmaster | did i just crush your dreams? |
| 14:34.40 | Aelobin | yus :< |
| 14:34.45 | Kalroth | besides, he'll want the other wankers on Ventrilo to see the same as him |
| 14:34.49 | Aelobin | my wasted time is wasted :( |
| 14:34.57 | Kalroth | so system default font is probably best bet :) |
| 14:35.00 | Aelobin | but... double negative... O_o |
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| 14:47.16 | |Jelly| | Is there a way to check if someone in your raid gets the killing blow on say, the guardians on Yogg? COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED has PARTY_KILL but that only works for your party, apparently. |
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| 15:01.40 | Arrowmaster | tekkub is going to be pissed and go on a rampage |
| 15:03.08 | Arrowmaster | btw seriously how can these guys be such idiots |
| 15:03.44 | Arrowmaster | has anybody else looked at the source for this tweetcraft (referred to as tweetcrap from now on) |
| 15:04.09 | Seerah | source? no. heard about it yesterday though |
| 15:04.19 | Arrowmaster | you will want to gouge your eyes out |
| 15:05.00 | Arrowmaster | -- Add __tostring function to metatable prototype for data objects |
| 15:05.00 | Arrowmaster | LibStub:GetLibrary("LibDataBroker-1.1").domt.__tostring = function(self) |
| 15:05.01 | Arrowmaster | return self.name or LibStub:GetLibrary("LibDataBroker-1.1"):GetNameByDataObject(self) |
| 15:05.01 | Arrowmaster | end |
| 15:05.05 | Arrowmaster | tekkub will kill them |
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| 15:05.25 | Arrowmaster | and it will be a glorious day |
| 15:06.36 | Arrowmaster | actually thats not the worst of it |
| 15:06.45 | Arrowmaster | they are seriously fucking with LDB in here |
| 15:08.57 | Arrowmaster | changing a metatable in LDB and adding 3 functions to LDB |
| 15:11.26 | Arrowmaster | i think this will convert tekkub to my cause for creating a new LibStub that returns read only proxies from GetLibrary |
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| 15:17.21 | Nafe | Arrowmaster: wow that's pretty bag; I agree with you, it'll definitely help convince him re: LibStub |
| 15:17.25 | Nafe | bad* |
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| 15:27.04 | Arrowmaster | that or just get him to add a license to it that prevents modifications like that |
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| 15:39.55 | Wobin | aiegh! |
| 15:39.55 | Wobin | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1197256/Blind-man-sees-wife-time-having-TOOTH-implanted-eye.html |
| 15:40.00 | Wobin | O.O |
| 15:40.09 | Wobin | my god, that's creepy |
| 15:40.25 | Wobin | it's like Terminator =P |
| 15:42.08 | Cruciformer | thats just wrong |
| 15:42.29 | Cruciformer | that eye would freak me right the hell out if I saw it |
| 15:46.21 | Wobin | also |
| 15:46.24 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfBlUQguvyw |
| 15:46.28 | Wobin | is -very- cool |
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| 15:49.38 | Cairenn | that is pretty cool |
| 15:51.24 | Cruciformer | wow at first I though "Wobin and I need to come to a common understand of what "cool" means" but you are right that was a pretty awesome vid |
| 15:51.48 | Cairenn | starts out kinda slow, but if you give it a bit, that's pretty damn neat, actually |
| 15:51.58 | Cruciformer | yup |
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| 15:56.23 | amro | Cairenn: http://minion.mmoui.com/ typo, should be Compatible |
| 15:56.41 | Adys | your mom should be compatible |
| 15:56.49 | Cairenn | smacks Adys |
| 15:56.52 | Adys | xchat default ui fails so much |
| 15:56.58 | Adys | love you too cair |
| 15:57.02 | Cairenn | :) |
| 15:57.55 | Bruners | irssi > xhat |
| 15:58.02 | Fisker | that's fucking awesome Wobin |
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| 15:58.12 | Cairenn | morning Iriel |
| 15:58.35 | Iriel | waves |
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| 16:14.57 | Adys | ~amro++ |
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| 16:30.55 | pb_ee1 | ~lick Adys |
| 16:30.56 | purl | ACTION licks Adys *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 16:31.17 | Adys | ~asswipe pb_ee1 |
| 16:31.17 | purl | ACTION takes pb_ee1 and rubs him between the 'special' cheeks on the |
| 16:31.27 | pb_ee1 | on the? |
| 16:31.34 | pb_ee1 | UR EMOTE FAIL MUAHAHAHA |
| 16:31.43 | pb_ee1 | (+S) |
| 16:32.26 | Adys | i didnt even know it existed |
| 16:38.17 | amro | ~whalepunt pb_ee1 |
| 16:38.18 | purl | ACTION looks onward as an everest-sized whale called Victor punts pb_ee1 across the Solar System |
| 16:38.34 | pb_ee1 | ~whalecrit amro |
| 16:38.35 | purl | ACTION crits amro with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. amro dies |
| 16:38.38 | pb_ee1 | ~whaledodge |
| 16:38.44 | amro | ~whaleparry pb_ee1 |
| 16:38.45 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry pb_ee1's attacks. |
| 16:38.45 | pb_ee1 | ~dodge |
| 16:38.46 | purl | ACTION dodges! |
| 16:38.51 | pb_ee1 | ~dodge pb_ee1 |
| 16:38.51 | purl | at the last second pb_ee1 dodges out of the way of pb_ee1's malicious and unprovoked attack. |
| 16:38.56 | pb_ee1 | hum |
| 16:38.59 | pb_ee1 | ~dodge amro |
| 16:39.00 | purl | at the last second pb_ee1 dodges out of the way of amro's malicious and unprovoked attack. |
| 16:39.00 | amro | owned |
| 16:39.18 | pb_ee1 | sorry, I had to dodge my überness before your attack. |
| 16:42.23 | pb_ee1 | ~asciiart |
| 16:42.30 | pb_ee1 | ~ascii |
| 16:42.30 | purl | i heard ascii is american standard code for information interchange, or see 'chandra' for an example of a great use of ASCII characters in art, or http://www.asciitable.com/ |
| 16:42.36 | pb_ee1 | ~art |
| 16:42.36 | purl | i guess art is out to lunch |
| 16:42.44 | pb_ee1 | ~fart |
| 16:42.45 | purl | ACTION farts, releasing large quantities of methane and sulfur dioxide. "Evacuate the channel! GO! *gag* SAVE YOURSELVES *cough* MOVE *choke* MOVE!" |
| 16:42.54 | pb_ee1 | oO |
| 16:42.55 | nevcairiel | ~chandra |
| 16:42.56 | purl | chandra is, like, http://emu.res.cmu.edu/~ked/chandra.txt |
| 16:43.07 | nevcairiel | bah link died |
| 16:43.21 | pb_ee1 | 404 - Server not found |
| 16:43.23 | pb_ee1 | :D |
| 16:43.34 | nevcairiel | Server not found isnt a 404 |
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| 16:53.19 | Kraps | http://www.cracked.com/article_17522_6-new-personality-disorders-caused-by-internet.html |
| 16:53.26 | Kraps | The Internet makes people crazy. We all know this. The guy on the message board who just called you a shitclown for owning a different video game console than him probably would have been perfectly polite had you met in real life. |
| 16:56.10 | Fisker | :O |
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| 17:21.59 | Aelobin_ | is the chopper/hog engineers-only ? |
| 17:24.08 | Kraps | no |
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| 17:30.01 | nevcairiel | anyone can buy and ride them |
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| 17:53.10 | Aelobin_ | awesp,e |
| 17:53.12 | Aelobin_ | *awesome |
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| 17:56.14 | Kriseth` | Hello, I'm really just enquiring as to whether you guys could help me with a little bit of LUA |
| 17:56.23 | krka | Kriseth`: You shouldn't capitalize Lua like that. ^_^ |
| 17:56.29 | Kriseth` | Awesome |
| 17:56.29 | Kriseth` | :p |
| 17:56.38 | Kriseth` | At least someone is replying here |
| 17:56.40 | Kriseth` | heh |
| 17:56.49 | Kriseth` | Well, I've managed to discover the event: |
| 17:56.54 | Kriseth` | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.59 | Kriseth` | Got that so far? ;p |
| 17:57.10 | Fisker | krka LUA = LUA's Used as an Acronym |
| 17:57.11 | Hirsute | No. Please explain more |
| 17:57.33 | Kriseth` | Well, hang on, let me finish this up, then put it on pastebin |
| 17:57.59 | Kriseth` | http://pastebin.com/m50cde127 |
| 17:58.00 | Kriseth` | There |
| 17:58.13 | Kriseth` | Is that correct? :S |
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| 18:00.08 | Hirsute | Are you using AchMessage as a filter for ChatMessageEventFilter? |
| 18:00.41 | Kriseth` | Well, that's literally all of the .lua file |
| 18:00.48 | Kriseth` | And that's what I'm attempting to do :P |
| 18:01.08 | Hirsute | Hold on. |
| 18:02.05 | Arrowmaster | do you also have an xml file? |
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| 18:02.47 | Hirsute | Well, you'll either need to use ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter to proc that function, or create a frame, register it for the event, and run that from your frame's event handler. |
| 18:03.04 | Arrowmaster | you do NOT use filters for that |
| 18:03.10 | Hirsute | If you go the first way, you'll want to check out http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter for the proper argument. |
| 18:03.14 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: Why not? |
| 18:03.21 | Arrowmaster | because thats not what filters are for |
| 18:03.24 | Kriseth` | So wait, what should I be doing? |
| 18:03.32 | Kriseth` | I mean, I've used LUA for Garry's Mod before |
| 18:03.37 | Kriseth` | and literally was looking on Wowhead |
| 18:03.39 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: Let me look at the functions again. |
| 18:03.41 | Arrowmaster | Kriseth`: you need to create a frame and register for teh events |
| 18:03.41 | Kriseth` | and tried to cook something up |
| 18:03.46 | Kriseth` | >.> |
| 18:03.54 | Kriseth` | Oh I see now |
| 18:04.04 | Cruciformer | Listen to Arrowmaster when it comes to filters, he knows of which he speaks. |
| 18:04.08 | Kriseth` | So the frame filters the chat_msg_guild_achievement |
| 18:04.24 | Kriseth` | then if(frame) (true) then fire the send message? |
| 18:04.25 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: Ah. Reading the code better ftw. "That's not what filters are for" because the function sends a message, correct? |
| 18:04.35 | Arrowmaster | correct |
| 18:04.56 | Hirsute | *nod* Makes sense. I should have read the code better. |
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| 18:05.33 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster is correct, you'll want to create a frame register it for the event, and set up an event handler (and be prepared to get added to people's ignore lists) |
| 18:05.34 | Kriseth` | Awesome, thanks =] |
| 18:05.50 | Kriseth` | Hirsute, I'm only doing it in /g |
| 18:06.18 | Hirsute | Most of our guild ended up ignoring a guildmate with an auto-grats on achievement addon. |
| 18:06.46 | Kriseth` | Haha |
| 18:07.16 | Hirsute | You're, of course, welcome to do as you wish, I'm just sayin'... |
| 18:07.32 | Kriseth` | ;p |
| 18:07.41 | Kriseth` | So, the API ChatFrame AddMessageEventFilter |
| 18:07.46 | Kriseth` | Wants to go at the top of the .lua? |
| 18:07.49 | Kriseth` | Or in the .xml? |
| 18:07.59 | Arrowmaster | dont use ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter |
| 18:08.15 | Kriseth` | So what do I want to use then Arrowmaster? |
| 18:08.51 | Arrowmaster | you need to create a frame using either xml or the CreateFrame() function |
| 18:09.22 | Kriseth` | Right, thanks =] |
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| 18:13.33 | Cruciformer | Kriseth`: Something along the lines of: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/117019 |
| 18:14.33 | Kraps | they change 2v2 |
| 18:14.34 | Kraps | changed* |
| 18:14.37 | Kriseth` | Ah, cool |
| 18:14.38 | Kriseth` | thanks Cruci |
| 18:15.34 | Cruciformer | np. you may want to start out printing the contents of ... to see what info you get with the event since its not currently documented on wowprogramming.com |
| 18:16.18 | Kriseth` | Ah, oki |
| 18:16.57 | Arrowmaster | the first arg is the message |
| 18:17.18 | Arrowmaster | the rest is about the same as CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL |
| 18:17.26 | Hirsute | It's documented on WoWwiki |
| 18:18.00 | Hirsute | Not in great detail, but enough for Kriseth` 's purposes |
| 18:20.46 | Cruciformer | I bet that a better event to trap may be ACHIEVEMENT_EARNED. Worth looking into. |
| 18:20.56 | Arrowmaster | no |
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| 18:55.22 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: so youre finally back |
| 18:55.31 | tekkub | I am? |
| 18:55.35 | tekkub | where did I go? |
| 18:55.38 | Arrowmaster | well you werent on earlier |
| 18:55.50 | Arrowmaster | when i wanted to point something out to you |
| 18:55.53 | tekkub | that happens when I sleep |
| 18:56.02 | Arrowmaster | have you seen tweekcraft? |
| 18:56.11 | tekkub | wut dat |
| 18:56.40 | Thunder_Child | take that as a no Arrowmaster |
| 18:56.48 | Arrowmaster | http://blogs.msdn.com/coding4fun/archive/2009/07/02/9813390.aspx |
| 18:56.54 | tekkub | Your search - tweekcraft - did not match any documents |
| 18:56.58 | Arrowmaster | http://tweetcraft.codeplex.com/ |
| 18:57.06 | Arrowmaster | sorry, tweetcraft |
| 18:57.21 | Dagmar | Okay. That's jsut wrong |
| 18:57.30 | Arrowmaster | no it gets worse |
| 18:57.33 | tekkub | beyond wrong |
| 18:57.33 | Arrowmaster | http://tweetcraft.codeplex.com/SourceControl/ListDownloadableCommits.aspx |
| 18:57.39 | Arrowmaster | download the source |
| 18:57.47 | Arrowmaster | then be prepared to kill somebody |
| 18:57.48 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.popgive.com/2008/10/eight-phases-of-dating.html |
| 18:58.05 | tekkub | I don't want to |
| 18:58.10 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: you need to |
| 18:58.16 | Arrowmaster | it fucks with LDB |
| 18:58.21 | Arrowmaster | in very very bad ways |
| 18:58.21 | tekkub | ugh |
| 18:58.38 | Arrowmaster | including adding functions to the library and modifing a metatable |
| 18:58.59 | tekkub | like that !broker did? |
| 18:59.00 | Aqua | wtf is tweekcraft? |
| 18:59.02 | tekkub | or different code? |
| 18:59.03 | Arrowmaster | inside LibTweetCraft-1.0 |
| 18:59.07 | Arrowmaster | different |
| 18:59.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Aqua: nothing. tweetcraft is something, though |
| 18:59.12 | Arrowmaster | its bad |
| 18:59.12 | Thunder_Child | tweetcraft, not tweek |
| 18:59.23 | Arrowmaster | its because the fucking morons that wrote this dont understand lua at all |
| 18:59.27 | Aqua | sorry i read it wrong |
| 18:59.41 | Aqua | so what is tweetcraft? |
| 18:59.53 | Arrowmaster | LibTweetCraft.DataBroker = LibTweetCraft.DataBroker or LibStub:GetLibrary("LibDataBroker-1.1") |
| 18:59.54 | ScytheBlade1 | in-game twitter client |
| 18:59.59 | Aqua | ewwwwwwwww |
| 19:00.05 | Arrowmaster | function LibTweetCraft.DataBroker:DataObjectExists(name) |
| 19:00.10 | tekkub | but but the code NEEDS to be a library |
| 19:00.15 | mikma | errrrr, what |
| 19:00.18 | tekkub | how else with other addons use it? |
| 19:00.22 | tekkub | *stab* |
| 19:00.25 | Arrowmaster | the idiots must think that they are getting an instance of the library they are free to modify |
| 19:00.29 | Arrowmaster | and not a direct reference to it |
| 19:00.49 | Bruners | why do they have to modify it? |
| 19:00.57 | Arrowmaster | this is from the same idiots responsible for the abomination that is AddonStudio |
| 19:01.17 | Arrowmaster | Bruners: well it directly modifies a metatable in LDB but the rest is caused by pure stupidity |
| 19:01.37 | Arrowmaster | function LibTweetCraft:AddOutgoingTweet(source, category, message) |
| 19:01.39 | tekkub | Arrow |
| 19:01.43 | tekkub | I fucking hate you |
| 19:01.47 | Vilkku | can IsUsableSpell(); be used to check if a spell which requires you to be behind the target is useable? |
| 19:01.48 | Arrowmaster | that function will make you die a little |
| 19:01.52 | tekkub | how to you send a cease and decists for a lib? |
| 19:01.54 | Hirsute | don't hate the messenger! |
| 19:02.01 | Vilkku | or is there a better way to find out if you are behind a mob? |
| 19:02.09 | Iriel | Vilkku: I dont believe there's any way to find out before trying |
| 19:02.14 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: i dont know but get codeplex to delete the entire project |
| 19:02.32 | Iriel | Guys, why not try a kind 'Hey, this isn't very safe, please do it differently' ? |
| 19:02.45 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: did you look at LibTweetCraft:AddOutgoingTweet() and see how far their stupidity goes |
| 19:02.45 | tekkub | what the fuck? |
| 19:02.53 | tekkub | he makes a data object for EVERY tweet? |
| 19:02.58 | Vilkku | Iriel, do you mean before I go and try it out in WoW or that you have to try to cast the spell first? |
| 19:02.59 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 19:03.03 | tekkub | does he even UNDERSTAND what LDB is for? |
| 19:03.11 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: http://tweetcraft.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?title=Extending%20TweetCraft |
| 19:03.31 | Iriel | Vikkum I mean I believe there's no way of knowig if a spell will fail because you're not behind the target unless you try and cast it |
| 19:03.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Vilkku: there's no way to determine your position relative to the mob. at best you'd have to somehow catch the error thrown by using a skill that fails. |
| 19:03.40 | tekkub | "TweetCraft uses a mod called LibStub to load libraries" |
| 19:03.40 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: oh but yeah i think it does create a DO for every tweet |
| 19:03.40 | tekkub | DIE |
| 19:03.54 | Vilkku | NightHawkTheSane, gotcha |
| 19:04.01 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: and adds functions to LDB for deleting DO's |
| 19:04.05 | Fisker | i think i'll join the tweetcraft team |
| 19:04.08 | tekkub | yes |
| 19:04.16 | tekkub | which just proves he doesn't know what it's for |
| 19:04.30 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: so new revision of LDB that throws errors whenever a DO using those type's are created? |
| 19:04.47 | Dagmar | So find a way to make those errrors horrifyingly fatal |
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| 19:04.56 | tekkub | no I'm not going to do that |
| 19:05.00 | Arrowmaster | you should |
| 19:05.29 | Arrowmaster | make the errors say that TweetCraft is blocked for causing damage to LDB |
| 19:05.32 | durcyn | have you even tried educating the guy yet, or are you immediately going into blind rage mode |
| 19:05.37 | tekkub | I'm going to attack them on their own turf first, please hold |
| 19:05.41 | durcyn | as is your wont |
| 19:05.59 | Arrowmaster | durcyn: one of the guys on the team made AddonStuido, you cant educate people this stupid |
| 19:06.00 | Fisker | durcyn i have tought them well |
| 19:06.01 | Fisker | >:3 |
| 19:06.09 | Bruners | blind rage mode is what we like |
| 19:06.18 | Bruners | correct Fisker ? |
| 19:06.46 | Fisker | yeah |
| 19:07.16 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: oh. damn. |
| 19:07.42 | Arrowmaster | durcyn: trust me when i send people into blind rages its for good reasons |
| 19:08.03 | tekkub | there we go, if they don't notice tweets then there's no way to get ahold of them :P |
| 19:08.28 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: tweetcraft is somebody else on twitter i think |
| 19:08.49 | Fisker | twitter sucks though |
| 19:08.56 | Arrowmaster | agreed |
| 19:09.00 | Fisker | you can't really rage on twitter |
| 19:09.13 | tekkub | I'm only on twitter cause I have to watch it for @github comments |
| 19:09.28 | tekkub | people *love* to get on twitter and just bitch instead of contacting support |
| 19:09.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:09.59 | Hirsute | tekkub: s/get on twitter and // |
| 19:10.00 | ccox | tekkub - you mean twitter isn't a direct path to the gods of tech support everywhere? |
| 19:10.23 | Hirsute | twitter does make it particularly easy, though. |
| 19:10.47 | tekkub | you ever tried to DO support on twitter |
| 19:10.59 | tekkub | yes, it gets a message to me, but if you want help? fuck that |
| 19:10.59 | Fisker | A couple of weeks ago danish news media was kinda ok |
| 19:11.04 | Fisker | But when that iran shit broke out |
| 19:11.09 | Fisker | It became twitter central |
| 19:11.10 | Fisker | fuck that |
| 19:11.16 | tekkub | send me an email or just bitch at twitter and get nothing solved |
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| 19:17.25 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: on the tweetcraft home page where it lists the authors at the bottom, the links are to twitter |
| 19:19.26 | tekkub | http://tweetcraft.codeplex.com/Thread/View.aspx?ThreadId=61436 |
| 19:19.35 | tekkub | channel rage ACTIVATE |
| 19:19.37 | tekkub | thank you |
| 19:19.59 | mikma | pokes tekkub |
| 19:20.40 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: is LDB under any specific license? |
| 19:20.54 | tekkub | DFWT license |
| 19:21.11 | Arrowmaster | aka default ARR |
| 19:21.18 | tekkub | but does that even come into play if they're modifying it at runtime? |
| 19:21.43 | Arrowmaster | i dont know but you could still revoke their right to even use the library |
| 19:21.49 | Hirsute | I'm not certain, but ^^^^ |
| 19:22.11 | Arrowmaster | and the right of anybody with tweetcraft loaded to use the library |
| 19:22.31 | tekkub | oh true I could couldn't I |
| 19:22.41 | tekkub | I guess if all else fails I can be a dick |
| 19:22.43 | tekkub | I like dick |
| 19:22.47 | tekkub | *bieng a |
| 19:22.50 | tekkub | *being |
| 19:22.52 | Hirsute | It'll be interesting to see what the response is, or if they even respond. |
| 19:22.53 | Arrowmaster | why wait? |
| 19:22.54 | Hirsute | Heh |
| 19:22.54 | tekkub | I don't like spelling |
| 19:23.05 | ccox | Can you add a metatable to prevent writes to the library? |
| 19:23.12 | Mikk | Do not go that path |
| 19:23.18 | tekkub | Arrowmaster: give them a chance to earn the dicking? |
| 19:23.21 | Hirsute | It gets... icky. |
| 19:23.22 | Arrowmaster | ccox: not with the current design of LibStub |
| 19:23.58 | tekkub | Hirsute: I could make everything local so they can't modify it, but then I can't either |
| 19:24.04 | tekkub | it breaks the embed upgrade path |
| 19:24.19 | tekkub | essentially forcing every upgrade to be a major version change |
| 19:24.35 | Hirsute | tekkub: *nod* |
| 19:24.43 | Arrowmaster | it could be done with a special version of libstub, but then that wouldnt be able to upgrade itself either |
| 19:25.00 | Arrowmaster | although it might be able to |
| 19:25.04 | tekkub | no changes would be needed to libstub :P |
| 19:25.18 | tekkub | I just don't want to break the upgrade path, that's what their modifications do |
| 19:25.22 | Hirsute | You could make a local function to check for TweetCraft and nil out LDB ingame if it is. |
| 19:25.27 | Arrowmaster | well i wouldnt change libstub but make something new based on libstub |
| 19:26.09 | Hirsute | But that might not have the desired effects. |
| 19:26.51 | tekkub | I'm not going to make specific addon code in the lib |
| 19:26.56 | tekkub | I will not go that route |
| 19:26.58 | tekkub | :P |
| 19:27.28 | Hirsute | *nod* |
| 19:28.01 | Hirsute | Suggestion reminded me of a WG timer addon that was out there a while ago that had code in it to make it not work for horde on the same server as the author. |
| 19:28.27 | Shadowed | perform AV did that originally :< |
| 19:28.30 | Shadowed | or one of those type of mods |
| 19:28.55 | End | what changes did they even do to it? |
| 19:29.07 | tekkub | I could add code that bitched at anyone modifying the lib, but they could easily disable it anyway |
| 19:29.14 | tekkub | and I should never *have* to do that |
| 19:29.21 | Shadowed | if( UnitFactionGroup("player") == "Horde" ) then break mod end |
| 19:29.28 | tekkub | these people simply don't know what the fuck they're doing |
| 19:29.38 | Shadowed | did you look at the code |
| 19:29.42 | Shadowed | or just the LDB part |
| 19:29.53 | tekkub | the fact that they have to modify the lib to use it proves they don't get what it is for... |
| 19:30.09 | tekkub | and the fact they have their libTweet proves they don't get what a LIB is for :P |
| 19:30.23 | Hirsute | Heh |
| 19:30.27 | tekkub | they just need an interface in their addon if they want people to be able to extend it, not a lib |
| 19:30.40 | End | oh |
| 19:30.41 | End | I see |
| 19:30.57 | End | their changes are in LibTweetCraft |
| 19:31.57 | Arrowmaster | i had a suggestion to make LibStub:GetLibrary() return userdata proxies that couldnt be written to but somebody said that would be a bad change to make for everybody since it would increase table lookups |
| 19:32.22 | tekkub | Arrow, it's a social problem, not a coding problem |
| 19:32.30 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 19:32.31 | tekkub | it needs to be solved correctly |
| 19:32.38 | tekkub | with bats and pitchforks |
| 19:32.43 | End | ^ |
| 19:32.47 | tekkub | not code |
| 19:32.55 | Arrowmaster | but i like solving socal problems with code since it means i dont have to keep looking for idiots |
| 19:32.59 | End | and not baseball bats, but the type of bats that fly |
| 19:33.10 | Dewin | End: Why not both? |
| 19:33.10 | tekkub | unless you can code phone spiders that are deployable from the internet and will seek out a file's creator |
| 19:33.16 | tekkub | and work with cell phones |
| 19:33.18 | End | sure, both is fine I guess |
| 19:33.20 | Dewin | bats wielding bats and pitchforks |
| 19:33.26 | End | haha |
| 19:33.38 | Arrowmaster | bat mace |
| 19:33.47 | Arrowmaster | hides before anybody can figure out the reference |
| 19:35.05 | ccox | ~lart Arrowmaster |
| 19:35.05 | purl | farts in Arrowmaster's general direction |
| 19:36.07 | Fisker | slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:36.50 | ccox | trips Arrowmaster with a Bat-a-rang |
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| 19:37.11 | End | oh wait, they're making a lot more changes than I thought |
| 19:37.13 | End | ew |
| 19:37.43 | Arrowmaster | other than the metatable change the rest are simply because they are morons and dont understand Lua |
| 19:37.47 | Arrowmaster | most likely |
| 19:38.40 | ccox | Hey, 8 year olds need to learn programming at some point! |
| 19:38.46 | ccox | Try to help them. |
| 19:38.58 | Arrowmaster | two of the 4 people on the team work for microsoft |
| 19:39.13 | Hirsute | Heh |
| 19:39.18 | Dewin | Must be on the Vista team. |
| 19:39.21 | Hirsute | All sorts of jokes that could be made about that. |
| 19:39.22 | ccox | Arrowmaster: that explains much |
| 19:39.49 | Arrowmaster | the name mike sampson sounds familiar |
| 19:39.55 | ccox | (though I was afraid you'd say "Google") |
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| 20:29.44 | Ackis | was there ever an announcement why the tourney realms were up? |
| 20:31.49 | Fisker | wasn't it because of the regionals? |
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| 20:32.50 | Hirsute | *shakes head* "Hey, what do you mean we screwed up, modifying your lib at runtime worked out great for us." I'm glad it isn't my code someone's screwing with then saying stuff like that. |
| 20:33.34 | Shadowed | Hirsute wheres this? |
| 20:34.24 | Torhal | tekkub: "Please stop raping LDB". Classic. |
| 20:34.26 | End | did they actually say that? |
| 20:34.30 | tekkub | ^^ |
| 20:34.54 | tekkub | the haven't fucked over anyone... YET |
| 20:34.57 | Hirsute | Shadowed: Well, short version, addon called TweetCraft modifies LDB, tek was notified and basically told them to stop being dumb. They're tweet to him was about like what I posted above: http://twitter.com/rgabostyle |
| 20:34.58 | End | oh, I didn't even see tekkub's title :P |
| 20:35.07 | Shadowed | I know that Hirsute :p |
| 20:35.08 | tekkub | the point is simply they should have fucking forked if they were going to modify |
| 20:35.10 | Shadowed | I mean where did they say that |
| 20:35.11 | Shadowed | oh |
| 20:35.18 | tekkub | I would have made fun of their asses, but not cared |
| 20:35.59 | Cidan | yay, my first small iPhone app is finally on the store |
| 20:36.03 | Hirsute | ... |
| 20:36.07 | Cidan | f'in took Apple a month to put it up. |
| 20:36.09 | Cidan | Jerks. |
| 20:36.16 | Hirsute | My brother just told me the most horrible joke I've ever heard. |
| 20:36.16 | End | apple is slow |
| 20:36.18 | tekkub | you know you lurv apple |
| 20:36.35 | tekkub | they give you toys and only take assloads of your money for them |
| 20:36.45 | Cidan | truth |
| 20:37.38 | tekkub | do not question the mapple |
| 20:37.54 | tekkub | also, you need to buy a new phone cause this only has a compass |
| 20:38.02 | tekkub | you NEED a compass |
| 20:38.09 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:38.16 | tekkub | USE THE FUCKING COMPASS |
| 20:38.26 | Cidan | I will say this; the API for the entire system is really nice |
| 20:38.45 | tekkub | okey I'm done making fun of apple, back to trying to get my new iPod to not crash every time I plug it in |
| 20:38.59 | Cidan | hah |
| 20:39.09 | Hirsute | *they give you toys and only take assloads of your money for them, and still act like *they're* the ones who own the toy. |
| 20:39.32 | Bruners | tekkub: isnt picofps wrong with the ldb spec you have made? |
| 20:39.42 | tekkub | "wrong"? |
| 20:39.50 | Torhal | Ruh-roh. |
| 20:40.12 | Bruners | tekkub: not wrong, but you are using text instead of value :P |
| 20:40.28 | tekkub | value isn't my spec :P |
| 20:40.34 | tekkub | and it's not something I support in my shit |
| 20:40.44 | Bruners | also makes stablockcore unable to color "FPS" in my colors |
| 20:41.08 | End | it looks like value/suffix is an alternate to text |
| 20:41.10 | tekkub | so sad |
| 20:41.12 | End | so you could use either? |
| 20:41.15 | End | shrugs. |
| 20:41.25 | tekkub | value suffix is for SBC's color crap |
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| 20:43.17 | Xuerian | Ok, so, how'd Tweetcraft do it? Anyone broken down what it does yet? |
| 20:43.27 | Cidan | Tweetcraft? |
| 20:43.33 | nevcairiel | Xuerian: requires reload ui |
| 20:43.35 | End | reloadui |
| 20:43.36 | nevcairiel | no magici nvolved |
| 20:43.42 | Xuerian | oh bah |
| 20:43.52 | Xuerian | Anticlimactic bullshit <_< |
| 20:43.56 | Xuerian | grumbles. |
| 20:43.57 | End | reloadui+program running in background to be more precise |
| 20:44.46 | Xuerian | Cidan: In-game twitter client, the rest should be obvious due to above lines |
| 20:44.55 | Cidan | Right, googled it. |
| 20:45.25 | Xuerian | Probably would've noticed it myself if I'd bothered to look at the addon itself. *more grumbling* |
| 20:45.32 | Lopeppeppy | Hungry. Rawr. |
| 20:45.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Bored. Moo. |
| 20:46.14 | tekkub | the whole thing is just retarded |
| 20:46.19 | tekkub | alt fucking tab |
| 20:46.36 | tekkub | if you've not figured out how to run wow and open another program at the same time... |
| 20:46.51 | foxlit | Ahem. It's twitter. |
| 20:46.59 | tekkub | and? |
| 20:47.02 | foxlit | Retarded is par for the course. |
| 20:47.17 | tekkub | but but |
| 20:47.20 | Bruners | isnt tweetcraft an ingame twitter like thing? Not a link to the real twitter? |
| 20:47.23 | tekkub | you NEED to know when I'm taking a shit |
| 20:47.28 | Torhal | Bruners: It's a link. |
| 20:47.28 | tekkub | oh that reminds me |
| 20:47.43 | tekkub | brb, gotta go play with myself |
| 20:47.52 | Xuerian | ... |
| 20:47.53 | Torhal | Bruners: And it manglefucks LDB, requires a reloadui and a background process to send to twitter |
| 20:48.08 | Xuerian | Touche', tekkub. |
| 20:48.21 | Torhal | I have no idea why it's even using LDB, other than the developers are retarded. |
| 20:48.22 | tekkub | I love how they got a whole bunch of random blogs to post about them |
| 20:48.27 | tekkub | *eyeroll* |
| 20:48.49 | End | I should make a blog post on how dumb they are ;-p |
| 20:48.51 | tekkub | Torhal: because they don't understand what LDB is for, the fact they had to modify it proves that |
| 20:49.08 | foxlit | Hey, nuke their addon from library orbit. |
| 20:49.12 | Torhal | So we've settled for "teh developers are retarded". |
| 20:49.22 | Torhal | s/teh/the/ |
| 20:49.51 | nevcairiel | tekkub: didnt you like not-license LDB, as in all rights reserved? just tell them to get their hands of your code |
| 20:49.57 | tekkub | "until we figure out something better, we'll have to stick with ReloadUI!" |
| 20:50.02 | tekkub | lol good luck figuring that out |
| 20:50.26 | tekkub | nevcairiel: I told them, we'll see if anything changes soon |
| 20:50.38 | tekkub | it's been out, what, a day? |
| 20:50.39 | Torhal | tekkub: Translation, since the fact that they know about ReloadUI implies some kind of clue: "Until we come up with something that Warden won't detect" |
| 20:50.45 | End | if they figure out something better, either Warden would have to start tracking their asses, or someone would have to close another hole |
| 20:50.57 | Bruners | you have to reaload the ui to send to twitter? |
| 20:51.01 | Torhal | Bruners: Yes |
| 20:51.09 | tekkub | of course you have to |
| 20:51.12 | Torhal | Bruners: They're using SavedVariables hackery |
| 20:51.21 | nevcairiel | Wonder if we can report them to codeplex for violating copyright of LDB in their stuff |
| 20:51.25 | Bruners | what is the point in this addon ? :P |
| 20:51.26 | tekkub | it's retarded, just use a fucking twitter client |
| 20:51.26 | nevcairiel | or do they run that place too? =P |
| 20:51.43 | Torhal | nevcairiel: AFAIK codeplex is a Microsoft thinger. |
| 20:51.45 | tekkub | Bruners: point? why does it need a point, twitter has no point |
| 20:52.02 | tekkub | and look at how amazing it is |
| 20:52.05 | tekkub | aparently |
| 20:52.19 | Bruners | im to good to be on twitter |
| 20:52.25 | Torhal | Bruners: The point is to reload your UI as many times as possible with hopes of creating race conditions while sending retarded and useless messages to a website |
| 20:52.35 | foxlit | You're too good for spelling, too. |
| 20:52.46 | Bruners | :) |
| 20:52.57 | nevcairiel | race conditions from reloading ui? |
| 20:52.58 | nevcairiel | huh? |
| 20:53.01 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Shh |
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| 20:53.54 | foxlit | gr, annoying. |
| 20:55.37 | foxlit | Testing this error requires me to get and then get rid of a quest item. :/ |
| 20:56.17 | Lopeppeppy | Low level quests for the win... did you ever do Northshire Abbey? |
| 20:56.47 | foxlit | I've been abusing Northrend dailies. |
| 20:56.47 | nevcairiel | foxlit: cant you just stand in front of some daily-npc and cancel quests all the time? |
| 20:56.53 | nevcairiel | that ^ |
| 20:57.11 | foxlit | But but... my "quests abandoned" statistic! |
| 20:57.19 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:57.21 | Thunder_Child | use an alt wuss |
| 20:57.47 | Lopeppeppy | Then delete it! :P |
| 20:58.08 | foxlit | Then I'd have to find a kind NPC that would actually refund the item. They usually do not. |
| 20:58.37 | NightHawkTheSane | you should sit in irc whining, that'll solve your problem for sure! |
| 20:58.44 | foxlit | win-win! |
| 20:58.48 | NightHawkTheSane | :D |
| 20:59.01 | foxlit | Nah. I think I solved this in three different ways. |
| 20:59.14 | foxlit | [which is never a good thing] |
| 21:00.12 | Nafe | Old message, but for anyone who recently joined the chat: "@tekkub LDB actually worked out pretty well for #TweetCraft ;) was easy this way to get change notifications. Why the rage?" |
| 21:00.45 | End | oh, that's where they said it |
| 21:00.45 | Nafe | Foxlit: couldn't you test with a quest item that is dropped off a mob? That way you wouldn't have to cancel the q |
| 21:00.52 | End | cowards |
| 21:01.13 | foxlit | Nafe: I could, but I couldn't think of a fitting quest -- needs an actively usable quest item. |
| 21:01.23 | foxlit | I could also write code to simulate the whole thing. But I'm lazy :) |
| 21:05.20 | Aelobin_ | is it possible to make lua automate things |
| 21:05.28 | Aelobin_ | im not talking addons or inside wow, i mean just lua in general |
| 21:05.39 | Aelobin | (within windows) |
| 21:07.01 | foxlit | and by things you mean... |
| 21:07.05 | Hirsute | Aelobin: That's a really, really general question, so I'm going to say, yes, depending on what you're trying to "automate" and what you mean by "automate" |
| 21:07.14 | Aelobin | mouse clicks, key presses |
| 21:07.21 | Hirsute | Ah, that I'm not sure. |
| 21:07.45 | Hirsute | But there are a number of programs out there to do that already anyway, so... why reinvent the wheel? |
| 21:08.00 | Aelobin | because its fun to write stuff in lua and not just download something off the net :) |
| 21:08.09 | foxlit | Not out of the box. |
| 21:08.23 | Hirsute | fair enough. I'd say spend some time reading up at www.lua.org |
| 21:08.26 | foxlit | It is possible to make anything do anything, it's just a matter of how much coercion you're willing to apply. |
| 21:08.42 | Aelobin | if i knew what coercion meant i'd reply :P |
| 21:09.13 | Hirsute | You may have to write some extensions/libraries for lua to interface with the OS in that way, I think may be what coercion means in this case. |
| 21:09.18 | foxlit | Short story is that Lua is meant to be embedded in things. |
| 21:09.36 | Aelobin | ^^ |
| 21:09.51 | Aelobin | we're trying to automate the creation of ventrilo channels to count to a million :P |
| 21:10.00 | Aelobin | auto-hotkey is being stupid :< |
| 21:10.13 | Hirsute | You can get a standalone interpreter, and it will interface with C, which can be used to interact with the OS in that way, so you may need to write both Lua and C, and make them work together. |
| 21:10.20 | Hirsute | "it" being Lua |
| 21:10.20 | foxlit | So it doesn't really provide much of an API to deal with the outside world -- the intention is more that developers for the host applications will provide the relevant access. |
| 21:13.22 | Fisker | am rage |
| 21:19.54 | Kraps_ | y so rage Fisker ? |
| 21:20.07 | Fisker | need sc2 beta |
| 21:20.21 | Dagmar | ...or he'll DIE! |
| 21:20.30 | Fisker | i'll die anyways |
| 21:20.33 | Kraps_ | oh noes |
| 21:20.40 | Dagmar | Yes, but not of a broken heart |
| 21:21.11 | Fisker | i won't anyways |
| 21:21.14 | Fisker | i'll die of swine flu |
| 21:22.48 | Kraps_ | cleaning a hearing aid is fucking annoying |
| 21:23.07 | Thunder_Child | and disgusting it would seem like |
| 21:23.43 | Bruners | Fisker: but you can't die yet! you need to try out SC2 first |
| 21:23.50 | Kraps_ | only if you're not used to it :) |
| 21:23.54 | Fisker | i know Bruners |
| 21:23.57 | Fisker | but i'm running out of time |
| 21:27.20 | foxlit | So, the chemical formula that's all over Assassin's Creed. |
| 21:28.14 | Hirsute | Yes, foxlit? |
| 21:28.21 | foxlit | what is it? |
| 21:28.50 | Hirsute | Oh, no idea. I thought you were about to tell us. |
| 21:29.03 | Cide- | foxlit: cyanide |
| 21:29.10 | Cide- | true story. |
| 21:29.15 | foxlit | Cide-: bs <3 |
| 21:29.41 | Cide- | the other chemicals are all part of a chemical reaction resulting in the annihilation of everything but C-N |
| 21:29.46 | Cide- | (yes.) |
| 21:29.58 | foxlit | It's a structural drawing :) |
| 21:30.30 | nevcairiel | It supposedly shows some form of genetic memory, but i dunno |
| 21:30.41 | Cide- | it spontaneously reacts. |
| 21:31.26 | NightHawkTheSane | :o http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31726640/ns/politics-more_politics |
| 21:31.40 | Fisker | see you in hell Cide- |
| 21:33.46 | Hirsute | Is that the chemical formula: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fulminate-2D.png |
| 21:36.18 | Hirsute | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.13 | Hirsute | Hey foxlit, is this the formula? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fulminate-2D.png |
| 21:38.23 | p3lim | hm i need to use sting.find to find the itemid in an item link |
| 21:38.35 | foxlit | No. |
| 21:38.45 | Hirsute | Okay, well, nevermind, then. |
| 21:39.32 | foxlit | Think a large number of benzene rings with some of the C atoms replaced with N. |
| 21:40.54 | Cide- | DO THEY ROTATE OR NOT? |
| 21:41.34 | Nafe | p3lim: itemId = tonumber(string.match(itemLink, "^|c%x+|Hitem:(%d+):(%d:)+|h%[[^%[%]]+%]|h|r$")) |
| 21:41.35 | Nafe | I believe |
| 21:42.10 | p3lim | doesnt have to be that complicated |
| 21:42.37 | Cruciformer | local itemid = string.match (ilink, "item:(%d+)") |
| 21:42.58 | p3lim | im currently using select(3, string.find(itemLink, '^|c%x+|H(.+)|h%[.*%]')) |
| 21:43.12 | p3lim | that simple Cruciformer? |
| 21:43.22 | Cruciformer | p3lim: yup works like a charm |
| 21:43.51 | Cruciformer | and you can of course tonumber() it if you want it as a number |
| 21:43.56 | Hirsute | foxlit: Okay, is this it? http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_R62HsSgLewY/Sdqqa2FlS4I/AAAAAAAAAWg/CMk8Aoq3hQU/s400/AssassinsCreed2Website_1.jpg |
| 21:43.58 | Nafe | yeah. I think I was using that pattern for getting any itemId from a chat message, so I just wanted to make sure I matched itemLinks. the ^ and $ were my laziness in not changing the rest of the pattern |
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| 21:44.53 | Cruciformer | p3lim: that assumed you are passing an itemlink (say from GetLootSlotInfo()) not scanning some other string for the itemlink |
| 21:45.09 | p3lim | GetInventoryItemLink |
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| 21:45.24 | Cruciformer | yup then the one I posted suffices |
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| 21:52.55 | Cruciformer | Is there a way to filter outbound whispers like there is incoming ones with a chat filter? For example I dont want replies I send to a user in response to a whisper 9which I filter out) to show up. |
| 21:53.46 | Nafe | I think outbound messages get an event too, do they not? (Or maybe whispers doesn't fit in this category... I forget) |
| 21:54.58 | Nafe | CHAT_MSG_WHISPER_INFORM |
| 21:55.23 | Cruciformer | ah and I can filter it the same way I do the incoming filter? |
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| 21:55.31 | Nafe | I'd assume so |
| 21:55.41 | Cruciformer | cool thanks I'll give that a shot |
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| 22:00.40 | Cruciformer | swet ty Nafe that worked like a charm. |
| 22:04.39 | Nafe | np |
| 22:05.01 | Nafe | thanks Devtools. I wouldn't have seen the event if it weren't for /dteventtrace =) |
| 22:05.29 | Cruciformer | that the devtools from wowinterface.com? |
| 22:08.16 | Nafe | yep |
| 22:08.57 | Cairenn | ~devtools |
| 22:08.58 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 22:09.00 | Cruciformer | ive only used /dump and /dtframestack. iriel did a good job with that. |
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| 22:17.55 | Nafe | I was thinking of writing a function-hooking version of eventtrace. I don't know the feasibility, though, as it seems hooksecurefunc() can mess up stuff |
| 22:18.47 | Arrowmaster | function hooking version? |
| 22:19.03 | Cruciformer | you mean one where it will call a function you define if an event is sent? |
| 22:21.04 | Hirsute | Yay, UPS man finally showed up. Time to fix my compy. |
| 22:21.32 | End | dual spec is lame on non-maxlevel |
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| 22:21.43 | Dagmar | s/lame/nearly pointless/ |
| 22:21.45 | End | spells don't auto-update themselves if its the alt spec |
| 22:21.50 | End | SHUSH YOU |
| 22:22.06 | Nafe | I mean rather one that shows which functions are being called, and what the arguments are |
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| 22:22.25 | Nafe | would be nice to get returns to, but to my understanding, that's not possible w/ hooksecurefunc |
| 22:22.28 | Hirsute | End: My level 50 mage loves it. |
| 22:22.52 | End | I'm doing ramparts and my healing spec didn't have the max rank spells |
| 22:23.02 | Arrowmaster | Nafe: thats not possible at all in any way |
| 22:23.22 | Hirsute | Ah, I'll have to see if that's the case for my mage, I hadn't even checked on it. |
| 22:24.01 | Hirsute | As soon as my computer is running again. |
| 22:24.05 | Nafe | Arrowmaster: the returns? I think it's possible, just not for secure functions |
| 22:24.38 | Arrowmaster | of events? |
| 22:24.48 | Nafe | no, I'm referring to functions |
| 22:25.02 | Nafe | such as GetItemInfo(), etc. |
| 22:25.14 | Arrowmaster | and do what now? |
| 22:26.11 | Nafe | do a hook of pretty much all global functions, displaying when they're called, w/ what arguments |
| 22:26.23 | Arrowmaster | that would be very bad |
| 22:26.31 | Nafe | yeah, very taxing |
| 22:27.48 | Arrowmaster | and not very useful since you cant automatically figure out whats calling the function very well |
| 22:29.27 | Nafe | I was thinking the use would be just to examine what's going on |
| 22:30.04 | Kraps | think i'm buying sims 3 :D |
| 22:30.06 | Nafe | as a debugging tool, or what have you |
| 22:30.41 | Nafe | not really focused on debugging your own code, moreso looking at Blizzard's or so |
| 22:31.12 | Cruciformer | best way to look at blizzards code is to look at teh framexml source |
| 22:32.37 | Nafe | in terms of looking at it, yes |
| 22:33.21 | Nafe | but tracing what happens at runtime, sometimes I've felt it would be more convenient to just know which functions are called, and w/ what arguments |
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| 22:36.23 | Nafe | it's a pretty "out there" idea. It's complicated on multiple levels, and probably much harder to realistically implement than its worth |
| 22:40.32 | Nafe | hmm... is there a in-game way to get the dimensions of a blp texture file? |
| 22:41.07 | Mikk | Nafe: no. in-game, they're all 1x1 |
| 22:42.24 | Nafe | ah ok. so the best way to look through textures would be to use a batch file to run blp2png on the extracted art folder? |
| 22:43.29 | Nafe | nvm just read some comments on WoWI. It has the ability to do entire folders |
| 22:45.58 | Iriel | Nafe: If you're going to modify eventtrace, you might want to look at modifying the blizzard version in 3.2 |
| 22:46.11 | Iriel | Though I haven't looked at it yet so I dont know if that's realistic |
| 22:46.53 | Thunder_Child | slacker |
| 22:47.03 | Iriel | yeah yeah, I have a real job too 8-) |
| 22:47.15 | Thunder_Child | lies, your life is wow |
| 22:47.27 | ScytheBlade1 | s/wow/working for free for wow/ |
| 22:47.35 | Thunder_Child | ^^ |
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| 22:48.51 | Nafe | Iriel: I had no intention to modify eventtrace, rather just do something similar for seeing when functions were called, by hooking functions |
| 22:49.00 | Cruciformer | Iriel: they adding their own debugging stuff in 3.2? |
| 22:49.02 | Iriel | NAfe: Ahhh.. I understand now |
| 22:49.09 | Iriel | Cruciformer: dump, eventtrace, framestack |
| 22:49.16 | Iriel | I think dump is more or less mine |
| 22:49.20 | Iriel | the other 2 are blizz impls. |
| 22:49.32 | Iriel | I've been encouraging this for some time so it makes me happy 8-) |
| 22:49.34 | tekkub | oh they got the hint |
| 22:49.35 | Nafe | I think it literally was DevTools_Dump() when I looked at the code |
| 22:49.49 | tekkub | and they removed "rape" from my post, they didn't like me naming what they did :P |
| 22:49.51 | Cruciformer | Iriel: Well bravo good sir, bravo. |
| 22:50.19 | Nafe | "DevTools_DumpCommand(msg)" |
| 22:50.21 | Thunder_Child | tekkub, if by hint you mean hit with a clue-by-four then yes |
| 22:50.47 | tekkub | sure that thing |
| 22:50.59 | Cruciformer | Althouygh if it takes "some time" for them to listen to a MVP, I am guessing it will take "evolution time" for them to listen to requests from us peons :P |
| 22:51.49 | Iriel | heh, the ~devtools comment here has said "Why isn't it in the default client yet?" for ages, that wasn't me.. there's been general requests for it for some time |
| 22:54.54 | Cruciformer | Ah well Im am going to shameless exploit the fact than an MVP is right here, communicating with me, and lobby (again) for a GetGameTime() that returns seconds :) All the other hacks have their flaws. |
| 22:55.01 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: was it you that deleted my post on the wowace forums in that wiki'd thread |
| 22:55.17 | tekkub | I don't delete posts |
| 22:55.35 | tekkub | I quote them and help you look like an ass |
| 22:55.36 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: damnit i want to know who the fuck keeps deleting my posts then |
| 22:56.08 | Arrowmaster | Cruciformer: its perty easy to just get the offset of server time to local time |
| 22:56.26 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, just blame it on ckknight |
| 22:56.37 | Arrowmaster | probably him or kaelten |
| 22:56.51 | Arrowmaster | since some past svn commit messages have been edited too |
| 22:56.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 22:56.57 | ScytheBlade1 | s/?// |
| 22:57.00 | ScytheBlade1 | wrong window :) |
| 22:57.10 | Thunder_Child | ~fail ScytheBlade1 |
| 22:57.10 | purl | ScytheBlade1: FAIL! |
| 22:57.56 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster: Im aware but it would still be a nice (and I suspect easy) addition to the API. |
| 22:58.17 | Arrowmaster | Cruciformer: not if the server never tells the client the time in seconds |
| 22:59.03 | Cruciformer | which it surely can do since events are sent with not on;ly seconds, but milliseconds accuracy. |
| 22:59.40 | Cruciformer | anyway I have a solution without teh api change it would just be nice if it was generally available without weird tricks with offsets and catching combat log events |
| 22:59.55 | Arrowmaster | you dont have to do any of that |
| 23:00.08 | Dagmar | We need a function that you can use to get the time from the server in bacon. |
| 23:00.20 | Arrowmaster | the calendar tells you what day it is so its really easy to get the offset now |
| 23:02.56 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster: By getting the date / realm time and subtracting it from date()? |
| 23:03.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah somthing like that |
| 23:03.32 | Thunder_Child | http://opensourcesensing.org/ |
| 23:03.57 | Cruciformer | Sometimes GetGameTime() returns -1 if its called too early. I have to move my code to a P_E_W handler. |
| 23:04.20 | Bruners | "Additional instances cannot be launched, please try again later." FUUUUUU |
| 23:04.25 | Arrowmaster | what about PLAYER_LOGIN? |
| 23:04.59 | Cruciformer | I could try it there and see if it ever returns -1. I'll do that and let you know (and update the getGameTime() emntry on wowprogramming while Im at it) |
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| 23:05.51 | Cruciformer | right now its just inline lua code fairly close to the top of my mod and sometimes it gets the time and sometimes -1 |
| 23:07.06 | Cruciformer | brb |
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| 23:22.58 | Thunder_Child | they really should use 'located' instead of 'discovered' for map discoveries |
| 23:23.04 | End | Body and Soul is the greatest thing ever |
| 23:23.19 | Thunder_Child | since it feels like i should be planting a flag |
| 23:23.43 | End | should use conquered instead of discovered imo |
| 23:25.04 | Nafe | since I generally suck at writing GUIs, anyone have any tips on what they use to do it? |
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| 23:26.44 | Iriel | A whiteboard, or notepad, and i'm willing to throw a couple away |
| 23:27.17 | Thunder_Child | you throw whiteboards away? |
| 23:28.12 | Cruciformer | I use a billion /reloadui's on a test account withnothing but my mod loaded so reloads are quicker, and play with widget placement, textures etc. |
| 23:28.43 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: I throw UI prototypes around |
| 23:28.52 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: And then away |
| 23:29.03 | Jamash | he picks up the whiteboard and shakes it like an etch-a-sketch |
| 23:29.31 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, you need to get one of the digital whiteboards |
| 23:30.06 | Nafe | Cruciformer: that's where I currently am. I just wondered if people knew of a tool that made things easier (without gimping your capabilities) |
| 23:30.10 | Iriel | i'm pretty content with the analog ones |
| 23:30.33 | Cide- | CT_Library for development speed, but I'm biased and it's fricking cryptic to use if you haven't written it yourself |
| 23:30.38 | Cruciformer | Nafe: Although it sucks for almost every other purpose the WOW thing for visual studio allows you to play visually with widget placement |
| 23:32.14 | Nafe | hmm I'll have to check that out, then |
| 23:32.44 | Cide- | enjoy |
| 23:45.10 | ZorbaTHut | thunder, "I've discovered Westfall! The Alliance will be so happy that they have a new lowbie leveling area!" |
| 23:45.49 | Thunder_Child | ZorbaTHut, exactly |
| 23:46.18 | ZorbaTHut | on the other hand, "discovered" sounds more epic |
| 23:46.47 | Thunder_Child | it does? |
| 23:47.23 | ZorbaTHut | yeah. you can find books about famous discoverers. it's hard to find books about famous locaters. |
| 23:48.14 | ZorbaTHut | "Ma'am, I heard there was an emergency." "I need you to locate my keys! I can't go to work without them!" "They're behind the couch, ma'am." "Amazing! No wonder you are the world's most famous locater." |
