| 00:09.45 | Shirik_ | yeah baby! Now we're getting C# to the next level |
| 00:09.47 | Shirik_ | like C#++ |
| 00:09.51 | Shirik_ | transformCombiner = visitors => string.Join("", (string[]) from visitor in visitors select visitor.ToString()); |
| 00:10.04 | Shirik_ | soon enough I'm going to be able to enter the obfuscated C# contest! |
| 00:10.25 | bleeter | sounds more like soon you'll be able to sign yourself in to an asylum :P |
| 00:10.42 | Shirik_ | lambdas and queries in the same statement = win |
| 00:14.05 | alestane | Does that supply visitors as an argument to that expression? |
| 00:14.45 | kd3 | hm... looks like they've finally sorted the LH2 leak on the shuttle. |
| 00:14.57 | NeoTron | so I must say that stuff just doesn't make me want to learn C# |
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| 00:23.23 | alestane | Shirik_: That almost looks like a list comprehension. |
| 00:24.30 | Shirik_ | a what? :) |
| 00:24.55 | Shirik_ | NeoTron: That's nowhere near the worst I've written today :) |
| 00:25.10 | Shirik_ | I think I linked this earlier: foreach (Port candidate in from candidate in unmatchedPorts where candidate.Name == port.Name select candidate) |
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| 00:25.17 | alestane | SO if I understand it right, it binds transformCombiner to a function that takes an array argument, attempts to convert every element in the array to a string and store them in another array, and join them together? |
| 00:25.48 | Shirik_ | basically, yeah |
| 00:25.49 | alestane | Shirik_: You're not seriously telling me you haven't learned Python yet? |
| 00:26.03 | Shirik_ | I haven't ^_^ |
| 00:26.15 | alestane | List comprehensions are a python thing. |
| 00:26.27 | End | Shirik, the only thing you don't know is the syntax |
| 00:27.12 | alestane | They're fairly similar to the (string[]) from visitor in visitors select visitor.ToString() clause. |
| 00:27.47 | alestane | BUt in Python it would come out [visitor.ToString() for visitor in visitors]. |
| 00:28.14 | alestane | But Python has zero static typing, so it doesn't need the (string[]) declaration. |
| 00:28.32 | Shirik_ | C# wouldn't |
| 00:28.44 | Shirik_ | but a query returns an IEnumerable, not an array |
| 00:28.50 | Shirik_ | so the cast turns the IEnumerable<string> into a string[] |
| 00:29.17 | alestane | In Python, all iterables are pretty much interchangable. |
| 00:29.30 | NeoTron | it all seems very assbackwards |
| 00:29.38 | Shirik_ | well .NET 3.5 allows that, but requires explicit conversion |
| 00:29.41 | Shirik_ | no work required though |
| 00:29.55 | Shirik_ | I don't like things happening automatically anyway |
| 00:30.39 | Shirik_ | so python would combine the strings together? |
| 00:30.49 | Shirik_ | what if visitor.ToString() wasn't a string? |
| 00:30.56 | End | then you'd have a non-string |
| 00:31.13 | Shirik_ | but how does it combine them? |
| 00:31.30 | Shirik_ | or do I still need the string.Join() calls? |
| 00:32.11 | alestane | You'd still need a join call, although you'd probably do it by calling reduce() on the list. |
| 00:32.11 | End | oh, if you're joining you would |
| 00:32.11 | Shirik_ | ah ok |
| 00:32.18 | End | "".join(somesequence) |
| 00:32.41 | End | join -does- require strings it appears though |
| 00:32.47 | alestane | What's the concat operator in Python? Is it just +? |
| 00:32.57 | Shirik_ | gotta run |
| 00:32.59 | Shirik_ | be back in like 10 |
| 00:33.07 | End | I think so |
| 00:35.32 | NeoTron | top build on the server is now selling 10/25 man drakes from S3D.. heh |
| 00:35.41 | ZorbaTHut | alestane, yep |
| 00:35.50 | ZorbaTHut | neotron, I'd probably take 'em up on that if they were on my server. how much they selling 'em for? |
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| 00:38.05 | alestane | So what would it be, something like reduce([visitor.ToString() for visitor in visitors], lambda(a, b): a + b)? |
| 00:39.18 | alestane | Nope, I have the arguments out of order. |
| 00:40.02 | NeoTron | not sure, let's see if it say |
| 00:40.24 | alestane | I tracked it down in the tutorial finally, it's reduce (action, sequence). |
| 00:40.47 | alestane | reduce( lambda(a, b): a + b, [visitor.ToString() for visitor in visitors] ) |
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| 00:41.24 | NeoTron | they don't say |
| 00:41.33 | alestane | http://docs.python.org/tutorial/datastructures.html |
| 00:42.00 | NeoTron | wonder how much you could sell a 310% mount for |
| 00:42.33 | NeoTron | probably quite a lot |
| 00:42.45 | NeoTron | but doing 10 man ulduar with a "pug" would be quite a challenge |
| 00:43.03 | NeoTron | and I think we'd prefer to get mounts for alts rather than some gold even if it's 2-3k per person |
| 00:43.55 | Stanzilla | guild on my server is selling the uld10 mount for 75k |
| 00:44.05 | NeoTron | question is |
| 00:44.08 | NeoTron | is anyone buying? |
| 00:44.11 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 00:44.18 | NeoTron | 7.5k i more in line with something I'd consider doing it for |
| 00:44.19 | Stanzilla | 2 people since they started or so |
| 00:44.45 | NeoTron | you can't do that with scrubs though unless you 9 man everything... which I suppose is possible |
| 00:45.06 | NeoTron | still though - think I'd prefer to mount up my alt :P |
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| 00:50.05 | kd3 | whee! |
| 00:50.16 | kd3 | 27.2MB free on my 8 gig nano |
| 00:50.22 | kd3 | think it's time for something a little bigger |
| 00:50.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Cutting it close much? |
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| 00:51.47 | Hjalte | kd3: Do you really like all that music at the same time? |
| 00:51.55 | NeoTron | kd3: try a lawn chair |
| 00:52.04 | NeoTron | it's quite a bit bigger and potentially comfortable too |
| 00:52.05 | kd3 | pretty much. I've got a good system of weeding out tracks I don't like |
| 00:52.18 | kd3 | and adding in new stuff for me to try |
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| 00:53.56 | NeoTron | so .. Windows 7 Home Premium or Windows 7 Professional... |
| 00:54.08 | NeoTron | I don't really think paying 2x as much for professional is worth it to me |
| 00:54.38 | Hjalte | I'm going with Home Premium at least. |
| 00:55.04 | foxlit | you clearly need ultimate :) |
| 00:55.54 | NeoTron | clearly |
| 00:56.45 | NeoTron | think I'm only getting two.. the old XP box that is now 7 yrs old or so is running W7RC but ... by the time the RC expires I might not have it anymore |
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| 01:21.04 | ZorbaTHut | it's so relaxing getting one-shot early on in Iron Council by a fluke, and knowing that they'll still kill it without you |
| 01:21.10 | ZorbaTHut | time to go grab a snack! this won't be done for a while |
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| 01:22.50 | Lunessa | Snack, beer, see a movie... |
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| 01:27.44 | bleeter | mmm beer |
| 01:28.22 | ZorbaTHut | I have to admit I'm really amused when an item drops and goes for like 350dkp |
| 01:28.30 | ZorbaTHut | and then next week someone grabs the exact same item for minimum ibd |
| 01:28.32 | ZorbaTHut | bid |
| 01:28.43 | ZorbaTHut | or vice-versa. |
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| 01:31.15 | Lunessa | Time value of drops? |
| 01:33.38 | Hjalte | ZorbaTHut: It's also fun when an item drops for the first time, people are unsure if it's the best, someone gets it cheap, and next time everyone is bidding because now they researched it. |
| 01:34.23 | ZorbaTHut | hjalte, I grabbed the first Veranus' Bane for, like, 70dkp, about a week after Ulduar started. Best-in-slot tanking gun! Second one finally dropped today, 400dkp :D |
| 01:42.42 | Hjalte | We got the pattern for the cloth dps waist yesterday, and one of the officers managed to forget to loot it. Now I have to wait for a GM to answer and the officer to come home tommorow after raid to get it made >.< |
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| 02:28.46 | Seerah | oh, computer, oh, computer... how do I hate thee? |
| 02:29.05 | Lunessa | Still problems with POSTing? |
| 02:30.23 | alestane | And you can't even count the ways, because your computer is down! |
| 02:30.41 | Seerah | yesterday it was 6 tries to get it to boot. Today was 8. Hubby put my computer into standby mode while I went to work and it wouldn't come back from it. Had to shut it down and it took 7 tries to get it back on... :( |
| 02:30.56 | bleeter | Seerah: time for a new PSU? |
| 02:31.11 | Seerah | I guess it might be... :p |
| 02:31.42 | Seerah | got everything all backed up already. Hubby said he'd build me one this time instead of being lazy and getting another Dell :P (He builds his own) |
| 02:32.11 | Seerah | just gotta wait for money/time to do it |
| 02:32.39 | bleeter | home built is always best, if one can afford the time |
| 02:34.24 | Thunder_Child | i love getting my own parts. i hate building the damn things |
| 02:34.39 | Thunder_Child | such a pita |
| 02:35.33 | ZorbaTHut | is anyone able to get on the PTR? I keep trying and being unable, but I'm not sure if it's the PTR or my connection |
| 02:37.14 | Lunessa | Careful selection of parts makes the assembly not a pain. |
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| 02:46.45 | Fisker | i don't feel so well |
| 02:47.02 | Lunessa | Sorry to hear that Fisker. :( |
| 02:47.07 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what you get for trolling like you do |
| 02:47.14 | Seerah | does Fisker need some chicken soup and a blankie? |
| 02:47.42 | Fisker | yeah! |
| 02:47.55 | Thunder_Child | ZorbaTHut, i can get in just fine |
| 02:48.23 | ZorbaTHut | argh |
| 02:48.25 | ZorbaTHut | alright, thank |
| 02:48.27 | ZorbaTHut | *thanks |
| 02:48.54 | Seerah | hands Fisker a steaming mug of soup and a blankie |
| 02:50.46 | Thunder_Child | well then, the equipment manager went all nifty on the ptr |
| 02:51.21 | alestane | Hm? |
| 02:52.35 | Thunder_Child | dropdown pannels |
| 02:54.10 | Ackis | pees on Fisker |
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| 02:55.48 | ZorbaTHut | grrr, anyone know how to debug WoW halting at the "connecting" message? >_< |
| 02:56.52 | ZorbaTHut | aha, got it |
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| 03:22.29 | Tem | oh man lol |
| 03:23.29 | Tem | all our melee just got madness as the brain went to 30% |
| 03:23.38 | kd3 | oops |
| 03:23.47 | Tem | we're forging Val'anyr! |
| 03:24.23 | Tem | it was practically perfect til phase 3 |
| 03:29.09 | sacarasc | I forged Val'anyr, solo. |
| 03:29.17 | sacarasc | And I'm a warrior. |
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| 04:07.05 | Tem | so |
| 04:07.27 | Tem | the guild I just joined does free flasks, free enchant mats, and guild repairs on all the time |
| 04:07.31 | Tem | and we're not losing money |
| 04:07.46 | Tem | I make money raiding now |
| 04:07.51 | Tem | this is awesome |
| 04:07.59 | Hirsute | Nice. Got some power AH players in the guild? |
| 04:08.44 | Hirsute | Or, what else do they do to be able to afford covering everyone's raiding expenses? |
| 04:09.07 | Arrowmaster | just having a large amount of gold to invest can allow those good at the AH to make extremely large amounts of gold in return |
| 04:09.28 | Hirsute | *nod* Which is why my first guess was a power AH player or two. |
| 04:10.39 | Thunder_Child | selling unsued BoE's and various other things can help as well |
| 04:10.53 | Hirsute | Also, to any vegans in here, I do respect your choices, I really do, but this was too funny not to share: http://failblog.org/2009/06/29/bulletin-board-win/ |
| 04:20.31 | Tem | Hirsute, I think it's mostly from selling boes and patterns |
| 04:21.02 | Hirsute | Tem: Cool cool. Market for those must be better than on my server. Awesome for you! |
| 04:21.54 | Tem | 4-5k each on a boe |
| 04:22.00 | Tem | and 5-6 per week |
| 04:22.07 | Hirsute | *much* better than on my server. |
| 04:22.36 | Tem | there's an overabundance of alliance on my server |
| 04:22.42 | Tem | most of which can't kill Kologarn |
| 04:22.49 | Tem | so there's a HUGE market |
| 04:23.28 | Hirsute | Heh. Out of curiosity, what server are you on? (No, I'm not planning to transfer over) |
| 04:24.39 | Hirsute | And speaking of Kologarn.. Yeah. My guild leader thought it'd be funny to send me (the hunter) up to "shoot a flare at the edge of the platform there to make sure we don't pull any stealthed mobs" my first time in Ulduar. |
| 04:24.57 | Hirsute | -_- |
| 04:25.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:25.17 | Hirsute | And then yelled, "OH SHIT, PORTH WHAT DID YOU DO?!!!" |
| 04:25.24 | Hirsute | over vent. |
| 04:25.41 | Hirsute | I told him he didn't want to know, but that'd I'd be back sporting some clean pants in a few minutes. |
| 04:32.11 | Hirsute | Tem: you on Blackwater Raiders? |
| 04:33.29 | Tem | no sir |
| 04:34.15 | Hirsute | Interesting. Looks like your market's probably fairly similar to mine then. |
| 04:35.32 | Hirsute | That's the only one that seems to stand out on the couple of items I've checked out has been that server. |
| 04:43.01 | Tem | yay we have a valanyr now |
| 04:44.02 | Tem | Hirsute, I'm on Garona |
| 04:46.51 | Hirsute | Tem: Ah, yay on the Valanyr! And that's why I didn't see any info. Don't have information for Garona at all. |
| 04:50.58 | Tem | wow that proc is awesome |
| 04:51.01 | Tem | just plain awesome |
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| 05:29.37 | Tem | Anyone know what the complexity of the "in" operator is in Python for a set? |
| 05:29.54 | Tem | I'd assume it's O(1), but assumptions are bad, mkay |
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| 05:32.42 | Tem | abundant = [x for x in range(1,28123) if sum(i + (x/i if i !=1 and i != x/i else 0) for i in range(1,int(sqrt(x))+1) if x%y == 0)] |
| 05:32.45 | Tem | abundant.sort |
| 05:32.51 | Tem | () |
| 05:32.55 | Tem | possibles = set() |
| 05:32.59 | Tem | for i in abundant: |
| 05:33.04 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:33.17 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:33.31 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:33.55 | Tem | print(sum(x for x in range(1,28123) if x not in possibles)) |
| 05:34.07 | Tem | takes about 10s to run on my system |
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| 06:13.18 | Shirik | blah |
| 06:13.25 | Shirik | I can't find my flash drive |
| 06:13.52 | Shirik | and that's where I put a bunch of stuff for backup when I reinstalled OS :/ |
| 06:13.53 | Shirik | I win |
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| 06:23.23 | Aqua | l2 run a home server Shirik |
| 06:23.37 | Shirik | why |
| 06:23.48 | Shirik | especially when I'm about 3000 miles from my home |
| 06:24.04 | Aqua | fair enough, didn't kno |
| 06:24.13 | Aqua | I run a home server with vpn access |
| 06:24.19 | Aqua | so i can get to my shit from anywhere |
| 06:24.39 | Aqua | thats wnen i left my house a bunch, now i don |
| 06:24.50 | Shirik | damn, I'm good |
| 06:25.00 | Shirik | 2975 miles according to google maps |
| 06:26.09 | Aqua | ti'm less than a foot from my house |
| 06:34.09 | Elkano | Shirik, that's LESS THAN 9000! ;) |
| 06:34.40 | Shirik | ok, I'm sorry |
| 06:34.49 | Shirik | I'm looking at this ad |
| 06:34.57 | Shirik | and it says "Battle fierce creatures!" |
| 06:35.03 | Shirik | And the picture is of a squirrel or something |
| 06:35.16 | Aqua | is it g-force? |
| 06:35.37 | Shirik | I didn't look |
| 06:37.12 | Shirik | anyway |
| 06:37.14 | Shirik | guess I'm going to sleep |
| 06:37.15 | Shirik | night |
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| 06:49.22 | smoke_ | anyone know where i can look at some example code to make an "inverted health bar" custom frame function? |
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| 06:55.07 | Shirik | What is photoshop CS4 extended? |
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| 06:56.00 | Shirik | i.e., difference between CS4 and CS4 Extended? |
| 06:56.47 | Shirik | http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/compare/ suggests that it's CS4 with some 3D tools |
| 06:56.58 | Spellbinder | i had some really good answers, but they are a bit offensive, i guess you want to know exactly what the extended contains |
| 06:58.49 | Spellbinder | yeah some 3d tools it seems like Shirik |
| 06:58.51 | Spellbinder | http://www.macworld.com/article/136256/2008/10/pscs4.html |
| 06:59.12 | Spellbinder | almost at the bottom, New Extended tools |
| 06:59.13 | Shirik | it's a $1000 software I can get for $200 |
| 06:59.17 | Shirik | trying to debate if it's worth it |
| 06:59.23 | Spellbinder | hmm |
| 06:59.31 | Spellbinder | you got a 3d app? |
| 06:59.39 | Shirik | no, but I'm also not sure I have use for one |
| 06:59.50 | Spellbinder | yeah |
| 07:00.29 | Spellbinder | i dunno, if it were my money i would know |
| 07:00.57 | Spellbinder | i guess just find out exactly what differs and see if you really need it |
| 07:01.04 | Spellbinder | theres element too :) |
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| 07:08.22 | Spellbinder | anyway i read, it seems it is only those 3d tools that are added in extended |
| 07:08.45 | ccox | Shirik - Photoshop extended also does some video, and more advanced image processing (counting, logging, matlab integration, etc.). That's the version I got for myself. |
| 07:09.01 | ccox | Spell - where did you read that? There's a lot more to it. |
| 07:09.02 | Shirik | I just think it's a good buy at $200 |
| 07:09.06 | ccox | it is. |
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| 07:09.10 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, or it's $1000 software you can get for free |
| 07:09.14 | ccox | assuming that's not on ebay :-) |
| 07:09.23 | Shirik | Thunder_Child, I try not to do that |
| 07:09.28 | Shirik | ccox, no, academic pricing |
| 07:09.33 | Spellbinder | ccox http://www.macworld.com/article/136256/2008/10/pscs4.html under New Extended tools |
| 07:09.39 | Thunder_Child | try harder |
| 07:09.51 | Shirik | The only catch is that I have to submit a bunch of paperwork to Adobe to get it |
| 07:09.53 | Spellbinder | i guess it was a bad site then |
| 07:09.55 | Shirik | but that's worth it |
| 07:10.07 | ccox | Spellbinder: that's what's new in CS4, not what's in extended. |
| 07:10.08 | Spellbinder | ofc it is Shirik |
| 07:10.40 | Spellbinder | ok, it says new extended tools though, i dunno i think i have 3 still |
| 07:10.43 | Shirik | and since Thunder_Child is riding my ass about how I can't only use Lightroom |
| 07:11.09 | Spellbinder | yeah a lightroom there is, but isn't that for 3d aswell? |
| 07:11.13 | Thunder_Child | rides Shirik's ass |
| 07:11.19 | Spellbinder | :o |
| 07:11.25 | ccox | photography using only Lightroom is like trying to build a house using only a spoon |
| 07:11.34 | Shirik | wtf, it's not that bad |
| 07:11.35 | Spellbinder | :) |
| 07:11.41 | Shirik | it's a good tool |
| 07:11.44 | Spellbinder | yeah i got cs3 |
| 07:11.55 | ccox | Spellbinder: again, the article lists what is NEW in CS4 in extended, leaving out all the things that were already in CS3 extended |
| 07:12.09 | ccox | (And doesn't even list all of what's new) |
| 07:12.10 | Spellbinder | aha ccox |
| 07:12.22 | Spellbinder | then it makes sence |
| 07:12.30 | Shirik | anyway CS4 extended looks intriguing |
| 07:12.35 | Spellbinder | sorry then, i just tried to help ;) |
| 07:12.39 | Shirik | now the question is how do I obtain this paperwork |
| 07:12.55 | Shirik | the easiest answer is photocopy of school ID, but I don't believe mine is eligible for that form |
| 07:13.01 | Spellbinder | some teacher would know Shirik? |
| 07:13.08 | Spellbinder | oh |
| 07:13.10 | ccox | Shirik - that depends on where you're buying it: at school, through a reseller, or direct from Abode |
| 07:13.18 | Shirik | It goes through Adobe directly |
| 07:13.26 | Shirik | I get the box, but I don't have a serial number until I send some stuff in to adobe |
| 07:13.36 | Shirik | They say "Official, current non-photo student ID with name and date" -- my ID does not have a date |
| 07:13.39 | Shirik | so, alternative options... |
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| 07:14.02 | Shirik | "Official, current school transcript indicating name of school and student" -- but I think that means I need a physical one not one I can print out online |
| 07:14.19 | Shirik | "fficial, current school transcript indicating name of school and student" -- That doesn't even exist anywhere except online |
| 07:15.17 | ccox | I know one time I got a student edition I needed a letter from the registrar (they didn't like our new IDs). |
| 07:15.35 | ccox | But it was easiest buying it straight from the bookstore - no paperwork needed, same price. |
| 07:16.24 | Shirik | http://www.adobe.com/ap/education/students/studentedition/faq.html |
| 07:16.27 | Shirik | Maybe I'll send an email to them |
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| 07:24.38 | Shirik | so yeah |
| 07:24.42 | Shirik | I sent them an email |
| 07:24.50 | Shirik | we'll see if they have advice on how I can prove myself to them :) |
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| 07:32.17 | Shirik | heh |
| 07:32.26 | Shirik | I can get creative suite 4 design premium for $400 |
| 07:32.42 | Shirik | but I wouldn't use anything in there except photoshop really |
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| 07:45.46 | Shirik | ok night |
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| 07:46.50 | Spellbinder | gnite Shirik |
| 07:46.59 | Thunder_Child | lies Shirik, lies |
| 07:47.01 | Cairenn | night Shirik, sweet dreams |
| 08:03.44 | Wobin | http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25723016-952,00.html |
| 08:03.48 | Wobin | oh yey |
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| 08:09.57 | Cairenn|afk | o.O |
| 08:10.41 | Torhal | Cairenn|afk: Heh. Now I can't make a change to Volumizer without wondering if you'll get a giggle. |
| 08:10.51 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
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| 08:16.54 | Fisker | rage |
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| 08:18.33 | Cairenn|afk | sleeps |
| 08:18.38 | Kraps | another day, another wedding |
| 08:19.32 | Kraps | can the blizz downloader d/l 2 things at once? |
| 08:27.53 | Fisker | unsleeps |
| 08:57.28 | ZorbaTHut | wow, 3.2 is incredibly broken right now |
| 08:57.50 | airtonix | the symptoms |
| 08:58.44 | airtonix | blurry eyes, cold hands, ability to change factions with a financial transaction which bypasses all 'rpg' story line |
| 08:59.10 | airtonix | it needs some rest |
| 09:10.17 | ZorbaTHut | honestly if we wanted to talk about RPG storyline, it's absolutely ridiculous that we can't change factions right now |
| 09:10.40 | airtonix | yes, but at least provide epic questlines to do so |
| 09:10.45 | ZorbaTHut | hello thrall I've killed gods and saved the world repeatedly, can I come work for you? what's that, you think my skin is the wrong color |
| 09:11.50 | ZorbaTHut | I mean let's be honest here, pretty much any character who's done any raid should be able to just go to both leaders and say "stop trying to gank me, I'm trying to help you both" and just be a lone ranger. NPCs do it constantly, and none of them have killed Yogg'Saron or C'thun |
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| 10:24.00 | Wobin | It says it all when we get A Timely Demise on Loken, with one of the dps dead |
| 10:25.10 | Wobin | what the -hell- is a boomkin doing 650 dps? |
| 10:25.14 | Arrowmaster | i think i got that my first time in the instance back when everybody had shit gear |
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| 10:27.05 | Wobin | in a heroic? =( |
| 10:27.17 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 10:27.33 | Arrowmaster | i didnt do anything on normal |
| 10:27.44 | Wobin | this definitely isn't her first time in a heroic |
| 10:28.06 | Arrowmaster | yes i thought the fight was a fucking joke back when everybody was saying loken was the hardest boss in the game |
| 10:28.09 | foxlit | hey hey. |
| 10:28.13 | Arrowmaster | i had no clue what the fuck they were talking about |
| 10:28.21 | foxlit | 650 dps is looooooooooow |
| 10:28.31 | Industrial | i do more dps auto attacking |
| 10:28.33 | Industrial | and im a hunter |
| 10:28.36 | Industrial | like, with meelee. |
| 10:28.42 | Wobin | in a one minute fight on trash |
| 10:28.45 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: i was talking about the achievement not 650 dps |
| 10:28.47 | Wobin | she got off two wrath |
| 10:28.56 | Wobin | and 2 starfire |
| 10:29.03 | Wobin | and 3 moonfire |
| 10:29.27 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: oh =P |
| 10:30.37 | Wobin | How do I suggest to someone that perhaps she should look into healing =P |
| 10:31.15 | foxlit | NOSTOPDONTDOTHAT |
| 10:31.30 | foxlit | DPS incompetence rarely kills anyone. Healer incompetence is fatal. |
| 10:32.42 | Wobin | I feel she will do better healing |
| 10:32.48 | Wobin | as she doesn't have to hold down a rotation |
| 10:32.50 | Wobin | just react |
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| 11:34.00 | Wobin | ahaha |
| 11:34.00 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NI6iu7e91Y&feature=player_embedded |
| 11:34.04 | Wobin | cannot stop laughing |
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| 11:41.21 | Elkano | true true ^^ |
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| 12:00.21 | Fisker | i can stop laughing Wobin :( |
| 12:02.27 | bleeter | http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/07/01/happy-30th-sony-walkman-your-memories-and-the-best-of-cassettes-on-cdm/ |
| 12:03.01 | bleeter | ahh remember how the walkman was gunna kill the music industry? lolol |
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| 12:15.36 | Wobin | Fisker: That's because you have no soul |
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| 12:24.33 | bleeter | http://9.media.tumblr.com/GZbqLZ3AXp9gdz5lp4T63RJpo1_500.jpg |
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| 12:41.12 | amro | bleeter: :O |
| 12:44.20 | Guest23901 | how do i run slash command from inside an addon ? I'm trying to "interface" to another addon, Bartender4, and I want it to move bars around |
| 12:44.53 | bleeter | amro: indeed |
| 12:45.04 | Guest23901 | i know the appropriate /bt command |
| 12:45.33 | amro | Guest23901: you can look into BT's source and call the function that would normally be called by the slashhandler |
| 12:45.55 | amro | (or call the slashhandler itself with the slash command, either way you'll have to take a peek into BT's source) |
| 12:46.15 | Guest23901 | yeah, ive started down that path, just want to make sure i didnt miss anything ... cant seem to find a RunMacroText function that i can use |
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| 13:04.44 | Lopeppeppy | cuddles zenzelezz. |
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| 13:16.14 | Cruciformer | hello everyone |
| 13:16.44 | Lopeppeppy | Morning. |
| 13:16.47 | bluspacecow | *hides* |
| 13:17.58 | bluspacecow | whatcha doin ? |
| 13:18.51 | Cruciformer | moi? |
| 13:19.01 | bluspacecow | no |
| 13:19.03 | bluspacecow | the cat |
| 13:19.23 | Cruciformer | She's sunning herself for the nonce :) |
| 13:19.53 | Cruciformer | is Guest23901 still around? the one that wanted to call BT4 from within his addon? |
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| 13:20.02 | Guest23901 | yes |
| 13:20.04 | bluspacecow | lol im listening to 80's one hit wonders while cleaning my HD out for a backup |
| 13:20.35 | Cruciformer | why dont you just look at _G["SLASH_BT41" etc and see what handler they call and fake a call to it that way? |
| 13:20.56 | bluspacecow | Snap - The Power |
| 13:21.13 | Cruciformer | or SlashCmdList["name"} its one of those two. |
| 13:21.26 | Adys | morning |
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| 13:21.44 | Cruciformer | greeting adys |
| 13:21.58 | nicoli_s | how goes the mmo champion db adys? |
| 13:22.12 | Kraps | anyone have a lumix camera? |
| 13:22.13 | Adys | eh fine, im trying to get the ptr working on this laptop |
| 13:22.15 | bluspacecow | it fallen over today ? |
| 13:22.19 | Guest23901 | yeah, i found Bartender4:ChatCommand(cmd); |
| 13:22.22 | nicoli_s | coo coo |
| 13:22.38 | Adys | anyone with an intel card on linux? |
| 13:22.53 | nicoli_s | not me |
| 13:22.59 | nicoli_s | windows server ftw! |
| 13:23.01 | Guest23901 | i was hoping to find something that let me run commands like "/addon params" instead of digging thru each addon i might interface to |
| 13:23.15 | Cruciformer | Guest23901: That name could change (altho thats unlikely). If you look at SlashCmdList["BT4"] it will always point to the handler, no matter how BT4 changes internally. |
| 13:23.46 | Kraps | the usb slot on Panasonic cameras is different than canon's? |
| 13:23.52 | Cruciformer | Guest23901: You can do exactly that using the mechanism I just described. |
| 13:24.25 | Cruciformer | Kraps: How can it be? USB is USB (altho one may use a usb-mini plug and the other the normal sized one) |
| 13:24.47 | Kraps | afraid its the latter :( |
| 13:24.56 | bluspacecow | except when it s a panasonic USB slot |
| 13:25.35 | Kraps | stupid shit |
| 13:25.52 | Cruciformer | really? they use a non-standard USB port? |
| 13:25.55 | bluspacecow | maybe its conforming to an older spec or something |
| 13:26.06 | Kraps | ffs cant we get universal ports already? |
| 13:26.36 | Cruciformer | Kraps: thats what USB is supposed to be! There are just two different plug sizes (mini and normal). |
| 13:27.34 | Cruciformer | What amuses me is on the camera body itself, my camera has a USB-mini port. If I attach the wireless file transmitter (which blocks access to that port), the WFT has a USB plug on it and its the normal sized one. |
| 13:27.42 | Kraps | i'm talking about the end that goes into the camera |
| 13:28.17 | bluspacecow | [camera] x--------------------y USB Port[Computer] |
| 13:28.21 | bluspacecow | what end ? |
| 13:28.33 | Kraps | x |
| 13:29.06 | bluspacecow | on the camera itself ? or on the cord ? |
| 13:29.24 | Cruciformer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#Types_of_USB_connector |
| 13:30.37 | Fisker | i'll show you later Cruciformer |
| 13:30.52 | Cruciformer | Most common on camera bodies are the type-B mini plug due to its size. |
| 13:31.05 | Cruciformer | Fisker: okie |
| 13:32.40 | Arrowmaster | atleast its not firewire, the different firewire connectors actually had different amounts of pins as i recall |
| 13:33.33 | Kraps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USB_types_2.jpg Panasonic uses the black one (at least on this camera), canon uses the one next to it |
| 13:33.40 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster: I have never used a firewire device yet, although some of the audio equipment I was looking at a while back used it. |
| 13:34.51 | Cruciformer | Kraps: Ah bummer. Panasonic used USB-micro, canon uses USB-mini. How tedious. |
| 13:36.45 | Cruciformer | Canon is still on my shitlist though. Im sorely vexed with them. |
| 13:37.59 | bluspacecow | Cranius = - Big Blue Dress FTW |
| 13:38.18 | Kraps | Cruciformer: why? |
| 13:39.24 | Cruciformer | Kraps: I bought my camera in teh USA when I was living there. I subsequently moves to South Africa and the camera has a nasty front-focusing issue. The local agents refuse to repair it saying I must send it back to the USA. |
| 13:40.10 | Cruciformer | they did take a look at it howeever and said there is nothing wrong with it when its very clearly not focusing correctly. |
| 13:40.30 | Kraps | working as intended |
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| 13:40.46 | bluspacecow | morn alestane |
| 13:41.00 | alestane | morning. |
| 13:41.07 | Cruciformer | Kraps: and this is *after* Canon publically admitted there are major problems with the AF system on the camera. |
| 13:41.16 | alestane | Would whoever is doing the rain dance, PLEASE STOP?! |
| 13:41.27 | Cruciformer | hey alestane |
| 13:41.35 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously, flooding sucks... |
| 13:41.36 | Kraps | alestane: New York? |
| 13:41.43 | alestane | Massachusetts. |
| 13:41.50 | alestane | We get New York's leftover weather. |
| 13:41.57 | bluspacecow | hey dont look at me we have 12 inchs here |
| 13:42.07 | Kraps | same boat (literally) |
| 13:42.14 | Lopeppeppy | And I had plenty left over to send to him. |
| 13:42.25 | alestane | http://www.rhymes-with-witch.com/rww07012009.shtml |
| 13:42.26 | Kraps | alestane: its michigans fault |
| 13:42.38 | alestane | Kraps: Yes, we can all get in the ark together. |
| 13:43.02 | Kraps | fricken not-so-great lakes |
| 13:44.06 | alestane | http://www.gocomics.com/heartofthecity/2009/07/02/ What goes up, must come down...usually with claws out. |
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| 13:44.25 | Kraps | i dont want to hear about "low reservoir levels" for at least 6 months |
| 13:45.14 | Lopeppeppy | I can't feed tuna to Pudge. I would be an **abomination** !!! |
| 13:45.55 | Kraps | abominations are fun to blow up |
| 13:46.47 | alestane | Pudgy tuna what? |
| 13:46.58 | Lopeppeppy | Tsk tsk. "Lilo and Stitch" |
| 13:47.33 | alestane | Ah. Haven't seen that yet. |
| 13:47.51 | Lopeppeppy | HILARIOUS. Highly recommended. |
| 13:48.17 | Cruciformer | anyone know a good way to play mp3 clips through vent? |
| 13:48.39 | Cruciformer | I wanna get the "Bunny! Ball-ball" clip from hudson hawk for when we doing the adds before crazy cat lady |
| 13:48.51 | Arrowmaster | convert to wave |
| 13:48.54 | Lopeppeppy | One of my co-raiders set up a separate login for playing music over vent. |
| 13:49.05 | Lopeppeppy | And I hated him. We server-muted all of his connections instantly after that. |
| 13:49.15 | bluspacecow | convert to wave set up binding |
| 13:49.41 | Cruciformer | binding where? |
| 13:49.53 | Arrowmaster | the 3rd dropdown at the top |
| 13:50.36 | Cruciformer | sweet tyvm |
| 13:52.28 | Cruciformer | And I assume the binding type is "Wave Files" |
| 13:53.50 | bluspacecow | yep yep |
| 13:53.59 | bluspacecow | where you put the wavs arrow ? |
| 13:54.22 | Arrowmaster | somewhere in the vent folder |
| 13:55.25 | Cruciformer | the UI is a bit broken. I cant change the work dir and it wont refresh. Ill try restart vent. |
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| 14:01.12 | Cruciformer | ah just need a subdir under wav\ folder in the vent directory. |
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| 14:02.04 | Jamash | It looks like it's possible to get a list of all the player's totem spell global IDs with GetMultiCastTotemSpells(1 to 4) |
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| 14:13.14 | Mikk | erm bindings in vent need copies of the same wave file on all clients does it not |
| 14:13.24 | Mikk | it doesnt actually play it over the voice channel |
| 14:13.48 | Mikk | i use two soundcards myself. one that i play shit over that plugs into line-in on the regular card :) |
| 14:14.40 | Arrowmaster | no i think the bindings actually play over the voice channel |
| 14:15.30 | bluspacecow | they do |
| 14:15.38 | Lopeppeppy | Sadly, they do. |
| 14:15.44 | bluspacecow | friend of mines got one to say "vegemite" to me |
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| 14:15.59 | bluspacecow | for some reason vegemite freaks them out |
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| 14:17.14 | zenzelezz | vegemite freaks a lot of people out |
| 14:17.26 | bluspacecow | can't imagine why |
| 14:17.58 | Aelobin | does it matter which you use out of CloseTrade() and CancelTrade() |
| 14:20.30 | Kraps | Crying at times and clearly wearing his emotions on his sleeve, the two-term governor also acknowledged that he had casual encounters with other women but insisted that he never crossed the line by having sex with them. |
| 14:20.40 | Kraps | âIf youâre a married guy, at the end of the day, you shouldnât be dancing with somebody else,â he said. âThere were a handful of instances wherein I crossed the lines I shouldnât have crossed as a married man but never crossed the ultimate line.â |
| 14:20.46 | Kraps | wat |
| 14:20.53 | Lopeppeppy | Don't even get me started.... Asshats are asshatty. |
| 14:21.06 | Kraps | ^ |
| 14:23.16 | alestane | ..."but I didn't inhale." |
| 14:23.59 | nicoli_s | then you missed the point alestane |
| 14:24.21 | nicoli_s | i think thats one of the funnies things ive heard a president say "yes i inhaled, because that's the point" |
| 14:25.54 | Kraps | http://thelanguageguy.blogspot.com/2007/12/i-smoked-pot-but-i-didnt-inhale-excuse.html |
| 14:27.07 | alestane | Cheating takes place in your head, not your crotch, sorry. |
| 14:28.13 | Kraps | The "Secret Cow Level" is the result of a running joke from the original Diablo that spawned from an Internet rumor about a cow that appears in the game, seemingly without purpose. |
| 14:28.20 | Kraps | NOW i know |
| 14:28.58 | nicoli_s | that and you could click on it |
| 14:28.59 | alestane | The joke has gone on so long that their are things like WoW Guids called "Secret Cow Level". |
| 14:29.14 | nicoli_s | there actually was a cow level in d2 |
| 14:29.23 | bluspacecow | yep yep |
| 14:29.27 | alestane | Was it secret? |
| 14:29.34 | nicoli_s | kinda |
| 14:29.37 | bluspacecow | sort |
| 14:29.38 | bluspacecow | of |
| 14:29.38 | nicoli_s | i forget what you had to do |
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| 14:30.26 | Kraps | After beating Diablo, the player can choose to have access to the Secret Cow Level by transmuting Wirt's leg and a town portal tome in the Horadric cube from inside the Rogue's camp. A portal opens in the camp and any player can use it to enter the Secret Cow Level; a grassy meadow filled with polearm-wielding bovines. The Cow King is the electrified Boss of this horde. When a player kills... |
| 14:30.28 | Kraps | ...the Cow King, the player who opened the cow level becomes unable to reopen the portal to the level on that difficulty level if he was in the killing player's party at the time of death. |
| 14:30.50 | Lopeppeppy | Cow King's Hide. |
| 14:31.01 | Lopeppeppy | Wirt's Third Leg |
| 14:31.13 | Kraps | cant wait to try out the game |
| 14:31.20 | bluspacecow | Diablo 2 ? |
| 14:31.24 | nicoli_s | diablo 3 is gonna explode my head |
| 14:31.25 | Aelobin | is there a way to get the player name of the person you're trading? :P |
| 14:31.34 | Kraps | d/l-ing the expansion now |
| 14:31.45 | Arrowmaster | Aelobin: UnitName("npc") |
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| 14:32.38 | Kraps | of course, now im all like WHICH CLASS IS TEH BESTEST |
| 14:32.48 | Aelobin | Arrowmaster: strange, but works - ty =) |
| 14:32.52 | Lopeppeppy | Penguin class |
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| 14:33.25 | Kraps | lamb/goat class |
| 14:33.36 | Aqua | sex ed class... |
| 14:33.44 | Kraps | i was at a petting zoo sunday |
| 14:33.54 | Kraps | i love animals |
| 14:33.59 | Aqua | don't talk about your family dinner's iike that |
| 14:34.14 | Kraps | ~lart Aqua |
| 14:34.14 | purl | drops a baby grand on Aqua |
| 14:34.20 | Kraps | what |
| 14:34.23 | Kraps | oh |
| 14:34.31 | Kraps | hey a piano |
| 14:34.34 | bluspacecow | ~lart bluspacecow |
| 14:34.34 | purl | chops bluspacecow in half with a free Solaris 7 CD |
| 14:34.36 | Kraps | can i [lay |
| 14:34.40 | Kraps | play |
| 14:34.40 | Aqua | dies a horrible death |
| 14:34.49 | bluspacecow | ~play Kraps |
| 14:35.18 | Kraps | is not a playable race |
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| 14:35.30 | Aqua | to i want to pull and install my new router today, when i know i have to upgrade the ram yet |
| 14:35.34 | Kraps | bluspacecow is though |
| 14:35.40 | bluspacecow | i am ? |
| 14:36.50 | Kraps | female bluspacecow = hawt |
| 14:38.16 | Kraps | The digital versions of the game manuals are not currently available. booo |
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| 14:40.04 | Shirik | well that's incredibly annoying |
| 14:40.06 | Shirik | I installed Windows 7 RC1 last night |
| 14:40.16 | Shirik | come to find out they still haven't fixed that blue screen |
| 14:40.22 | Shirik | so my computer still can't sleep |
| 14:40.26 | nicoli_s | ouch |
| 14:40.29 | nicoli_s | RC ftw |
| 14:40.41 | Shirik | not a big deal because I don't use sleep anyway |
| 14:40.43 | alestane | I wouldn't vote for it. |
| 14:40.55 | Shirik | but I have to go turn it off because it defaults to sleeping after not using it for a few hours |
| 14:40.58 | Shirik | which is a stupid default |
| 14:42.20 | Kraps | should i get WC3? |
| 14:42.25 | Lopeppeppy | Of course. |
| 14:42.42 | Kraps | lol |
| 14:43.15 | Fisker | your mom Shirik :( |
| 14:43.24 | nicoli_s | def kraps |
| 14:43.52 | alestane | Some people do actually walk away from the computer and forget to turn it off, rather than deliberately leave it running 24/7. |
| 14:43.55 | Industrial | http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/28358/fd384ea2/die_snoop.html |
| 14:44.28 | Kraps | frozen throne too huh? |
| 14:45.13 | Shirik | alestane: Those people are noobs |
| 14:45.33 | Shirik | Kraps: dota ftw! |
| 14:45.45 | nicoli_s | lol dota, did you know those people are making their own game? |
| 14:45.57 | Kraps | Shirik: what? |
| 14:46.40 | Shirik | Industrial: wtf! |
| 14:46.46 | nicoli_s | dota = defense of the ancients, a hero based custom game |
| 14:46.48 | Shirik | nicoli_s: really? pretty cool |
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| 14:47.28 | nicoli_s | yah, it looks pretty cool |
| 14:47.43 | alestane | Going for last two points of unarmed on a warlock kind of bites. |
| 14:48.31 | kd3 | alestane; the dragon eggs in sholazar |
| 14:48.38 | kd3 | that's how I got master of arms on my mage |
| 14:48.52 | Arrowmaster | i did it on immune mobs |
| 14:49.02 | alestane | I've been doing Strat runs for the mount, so I'm beating on the undead here. |
| 14:49.06 | Shirik | nicoli_s: Honestly I'm surprised blizzard didn't hire them |
| 14:49.07 | Fisker | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 14:49.22 | Fisker | who was that jackass who put in a mod to warn when you put up a mole machine @ WG portal |
| 14:49.44 | Fisker | rages |
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| 14:50.33 | Kraps | i think i'll buy it just to have it |
| 14:50.35 | Kraps | :/ |
| 14:50.46 | Fisker | buy what? |
| 14:50.57 | Kraps | WC3 |
| 14:51.08 | kd3 | the battlechest is like $20 |
| 14:51.10 | Fisker | you need tft |
| 14:51.39 | Arrowmaster | yeah dont just buy one part |
| 14:51.41 | Kraps | kd3: i'm oly getting the downloadable stuff |
| 14:51.43 | alestane | Down to the last point... |
| 14:52.09 | Arrowmaster | Kraps: you can download the expansion too |
| 14:52.14 | Kraps | i know |
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| 14:52.41 | Kraps | did that for diablo and SC lready |
| 14:52.49 | Aqua | I lost my diablo 2 key |
| 14:52.57 | Kraps | want mine |
| 14:53.02 | Kraps | :p |
| 14:53.10 | Aqua | nah, idc that much |
| 14:53.15 | Arrowmaster | i need to put my keys into my battle.net account still |
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| 14:53.32 | Aqua | i've got 3 or 4 stacraft keys |
| 14:53.44 | Arrowmaster | although i think i have two d2 keys somewhere since i got d2 and then the battlechest |
| 14:53.49 | Aqua | back in the day when ipx / spx lan plays were fun |
| 14:55.14 | Aqua | damnit why is waiting for stuff you buy on the internet such a pain in the ass |
| 14:56.12 | Kraps | can the blizz d/ler do 2 things at once? |
| 14:57.23 | alestane | You typically get a different downloader for each thing, so I see no reason why not. |
| 14:57.31 | Kraps | the StarCraft® Anthology was only 14.99 |
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| 14:59.05 | Kraps | total is $94.95 <whistles> |
| 15:01.05 | Abcawr | Hey, Can anyone point me in a direction to some sort of tutorial that describes how to put together a decent ui? I've been searching the forums but so far no success :( |
| 15:02.37 | Shirik | I don't believe in tutorials |
| 15:02.45 | Shirik | they tend to tell you bad things |
| 15:02.46 | Lopeppeppy | As in, put one together using various addons created by others? |
| 15:02.57 | Lopeppeppy | Or teach yourself how to make your own addon for some specific thing? |
| 15:03.27 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: How do I prove to adobe that I'm a student :( |
| 15:03.47 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik... letter from your school? Not sure what the context is. |
| 15:04.03 | Shirik | I'm trying to buy some of their software |
| 15:04.15 | Jelly_ | tackles Peppy. |
| 15:04.17 | Shirik | photoshop cs4 extended, $1000 software I can get for $200 if I can prove to them I'm a student |
| 15:04.34 | nicoli_s | i love that student discount |
| 15:04.34 | Shirik | but my ID doesn't have a date on it, and I can't get anything physically from the school while I'm 3000 miles away :/ |
| 15:04.50 | |Jelly| | Wow Shirik, really? |
| 15:04.57 | Shirik | really what |
| 15:04.57 | Kraps | son of a bitch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIC_3YIQ_YM |
| 15:05.07 | |Jelly| | <@Shirik> photoshop cs4 extended, $1000 software I can get for $200 if I can prove to them I'm a student |
| 15:05.11 | Shirik | yup |
| 15:05.20 | Fisker | you can pirate it for free |
| 15:05.22 | Fisker | (yarr9 |
| 15:05.22 | Fisker | ) |
| 15:05.27 | |Jelly| | Was more of a rhetorical question -- I don't imagine you'd be trying to figure out how to prove to them that you're a student for no reason. :P |
| 15:05.27 | Shirik | ~stab Fisker |
| 15:05.28 | purl | ACTION runs at Fisker with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 15:05.33 | Fisker | it's true Shirik |
| 15:05.43 | nicoli_s | i miss the days when i could pirate software |
| 15:06.00 | nicoli_s | now that i work at a "company" and shit |
| 15:06.07 | Shirik | I just don't belive in pirating |
| 15:06.13 | Lopeppeppy | Do they offer some line in the form for ordering or something, maybe they need a school code or something? |
| 15:06.27 | Shirik | It's all here, Lopeppeppy: http://www.adobe.com/ap/education/students/studentedition/faq.html |
| 15:07.05 | Fisker | nicoli_s usually student versions of shit is pretty restrictive anyways ;_; |
| 15:07.27 | Shirik | this ain't |
| 15:07.39 | Shirik | they just require you to prove it |
| 15:07.46 | nicoli_s | fisker, im not gonna use student version, gonna get curse to pony up the price :P |
| 15:08.02 | kd3 | lmao |
| 15:08.34 | Shirik | that's easy for you |
| 15:08.36 | Aqua | my view on piracy: if its that good of a program, I'll buy it, but if its something super expensive i want to try it all first |
| 15:09.02 | Kraps | what do you guys make of this http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=7967.msg97340%23msg97340 |
| 15:09.03 | Shirik | it's harder convincing a UAV company to buy photoshop |
| 15:09.18 | Lopeppeppy | How do I provide evidence of eligibility? |
| 15:09.18 | Lopeppeppy | You must apply for a serial number from Adobe by e-mail or fax and include proof of eligibility with your application. >> That says to me that you need a current transcript or letter from your registrar. |
| 15:09.28 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, try harder |
| 15:09.36 | Lopeppeppy | No, wait... Shirik, there's a bloody list on that FAQ, what did you ask me for? |
| 15:09.38 | Shirik | click "Who can buy student editions" |
| 15:09.47 | Shirik | I asked you because I don't think I can do any of that right now :( |
| 15:09.48 | Fisker | However, Student Edition software is for installation solely on private computers and for noncommercial purposes. |
| 15:09.50 | Fisker | hah Shirik |
| 15:09.55 | Shirik | it wasn't really a real question |
| 15:10.08 | kd3 | whee. time for vacation! |
| 15:10.11 | Lopeppeppy | Why can't you? Do you have no ID from school, no tuition bills, not transcripts? |
| 15:10.13 | Shirik | anyway I sent them an email |
| 15:10.19 | Shirik | ID does not have a date on it |
| 15:10.22 | Shirik | billing is done online |
| 15:10.28 | Lopeppeppy | Print the online bill? |
| 15:10.31 | Shirik | transcripts I can print unofficially online or get official in person |
| 15:10.36 | Shirik | I asked them if that's ok in the email |
| 15:11.56 | Shirik | gotta go to work bbl |
| 15:12.04 | |Jelly| | hugs Shirik! |
| 15:12.08 | |Jelly| | Jerk. |
| 15:15.14 | cog|work | ~tackle |Jelly| |
| 15:15.15 | purl | ACTION tackles |Jelly| to the ground. |
| 15:15.32 | |Jelly| | Cog!! |
| 15:15.39 | |Jelly| | tackle-hugs cog|work! |
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| 15:17.11 | Fisker | tackletackles |Jelly| |
| 15:17.20 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:17.22 | Kraps | Existing laws that currently refuse classification, and therefore ban the sale of any games that exceed an MA15+ rating, will be rolled over to the internet filter under a proposal by the Government. |
| 15:17.59 | Wobin | yeah =( |
| 15:18.16 | Wobin | There will be a terrible outcry if someone makes a complaint |
| 15:18.20 | Seerah | huggles all her Aussies |
| 15:18.22 | Wobin | (and someone -will-) |
| 15:18.29 | |Jelly| | tackles Seerah! |
| 15:18.41 | Seerah | aaaiiiieeee |
| 15:18.47 | Fisker | huggles Seerah |
| 15:19.23 | bluspacecow | meh |
| 15:19.32 | bluspacecow | we kiwis dont have thos restrtictions :D |
| 15:19.41 | Seerah | you don't want my huggle blu? |
| 15:19.53 | Seerah | ah yes. NZ |
| 15:21.14 | Kraps | you live in NZ? |
| 15:21.24 | Kraps | boggles at NZ |
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| 15:21.45 | bluspacecow | "they're going to betray , they're forget you ...are you gonna let them take you over this way" ..... |
| 15:21.58 | bluspacecow | "you walk alone like a primitive man" |
| 15:22.02 | bluspacecow | yes NZ |
| 15:22.27 | Lopeppeppy | Wonder if they have educator versions on Adobe... |
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| 15:24.00 | Wobin | and they make it work with sticks and bones |
| 15:24.11 | cog|work | lol http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Dan/TweetCraft-A-World-of-Warcraft-Twitter-Client/ |
| 15:24.49 | Wobin | Man, I had that idea first =P |
| 15:24.54 | Wobin | kinda =P |
| 15:25.10 | Wobin | except I didn't want to link externally to real Twitter |
| 15:26.08 | Wobin | omg |
| 15:26.19 | Wobin | It actually reloaduis EVERY SINGLE TWITTER? |
| 15:26.31 | nicoli_s | wow thats shitty |
| 15:26.35 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 15:26.37 | bluspacecow | oww |
| 15:26.39 | Seerah | wtf |
| 15:26.40 | Wobin | Yeah... |
| 15:26.41 | Wobin | see |
| 15:26.42 | bluspacecow | thats painfull |
| 15:26.50 | Wobin | this is why I didn't want to link real Twitter with the ingame one |
| 15:27.01 | Wobin | and it auto tweets achievements |
| 15:27.11 | Wobin | (although you have to push the tweet, eg reloadui) |
| 15:27.12 | cog|work | i assume it's all configurable |
| 15:27.33 | cog|work | there's really no other way to do it |
| 15:27.36 | Seerah | tweet 1: "I'm fighting a boss!" |
| 15:27.36 | Seerah | tweet 2: (after reload) "I died!" |
| 15:27.39 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:27.49 | Wobin | I'm glad I stuck to my design =P |
| 15:27.56 | Wobin | My only real issue is the gui |
| 15:27.58 | Wobin | and testing |
| 15:28.04 | bluspacecow | i can see that addon being banned from guilds |
| 15:28.07 | Wobin | cause testing social networks is painful with a single account =P |
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| 15:33.38 | Fisker | twitter is a piece of shit |
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| 15:34.27 | Fisker | awww |
| 15:34.35 | Fisker | it doesn't automatically tweet the achievement |
| 15:34.38 | Fisker | i.e. reload and then post |
| 15:35.09 | nicoli_s | cuz it has to read the saved variables |
| 15:35.19 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:35.32 | Wobin | well, it queues up the tweet for your push |
| 15:38.57 | Cruciformer | does anyone know how I can persuade omen to show me my TPS while Im beating on a training dummy? |
| 15:40.35 | Fisker | there's no threat on target dummies |
| 15:41.12 | Cruciformer | ah |
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| 15:50.14 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeple... talk my ear off.... |
| 15:50.46 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy: Don't say that. Fisker may bit it off. Or both. |
| 15:50.52 | Torhal | s/bit/bite/ |
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| 15:54.17 | bluspacecow | ni ni |
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| 15:55.29 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker can't reach me. And I do have Superglue in my desk. |
| 15:55.31 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, MP. |
| 15:55.41 | Kraps | where is the monastery of evil? |
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| 15:56.48 | MentalPower|AFK | hey Lopeppeppy |
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| 16:07.50 | Fisker | For what evil would you use that superglue Lopeppeppy ? |
| 16:08.24 | nicoli_s | wow, i had no idea pet talent trees were different per pet, i thought it was just per pet tree |
| 16:08.45 | Lopeppeppy | If you bite off my ear, which apparently you're in danger of doing. |
| 16:11.08 | Fisker | I mean would you like glue me to a table or something? |
| 16:11.29 | Lopeppeppy | No, it's for fixing myself after you maim me. That was the original purpose of Super Glue anyway, field surgery... |
| 16:11.32 | alestane | Or she would glue her ear back on. |
| 16:12.11 | Fisker | oh |
| 16:12.16 | Fisker | cause i'd like a bottle of superglue |
| 16:12.26 | zenzelezz | it shows |
| 16:14.01 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy: There are urban legends about the first usages of Cyanoacrylates being on the battle fields to close soldiers' wounds. |
| 16:14.06 | Fisker | slaps zenzelezz around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:14.12 | Torhal | Cyanoacrylates were invented in 1942 by Dr. Harry Coover and Fred Joyner of Kodak Laboratories during experiments to make a special extra-clear plastic suitable for gun sights. |
| 16:14.16 | Torhal | Blort. |
| 16:14.17 | Fisker | you calling me an addict? |
| 16:14.33 | Torhal | superglues Fisker to a raging bull. |
| 16:15.12 | Fisker | gets sexually aroused |
| 16:15.47 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, urban legends are fun! Oh well. |
| 16:15.50 | Arrowmaster | "A Warcraft AddOn written in FrameXML and Lua using AddOn Studio for World of Warcraft" i loled |
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| 16:16.47 | Fisker | http://notalwaysright.com/always-right-even-from-beyond-the-grave/2165 |
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| 16:17.25 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Scary shit, that. |
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| 16:22.00 | Shirik | rawr |
| 16:22.09 | Aelobin | =o |
| 16:22.12 | zenzelezz | indeed |
| 16:23.01 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR |
| 16:35.31 | kneeki | Morning everyone =) |
| 16:35.51 | zenzelezz | indeed |
| 16:36.09 | Wobin | Torhal: have you seen Dog Soldiers? =) |
| 16:36.19 | Torhal | No. |
| 16:36.24 | Wobin | You totally should |
| 16:36.32 | Wobin | it's a classic B grade werewolf horror flick |
| 16:36.37 | Torhal | It is used in field surgery, but it wasn't the first use - if you're referring to super glue. |
| 16:36.40 | Torhal | Ah |
| 16:36.41 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 16:36.44 | Wobin | that incidentally has a superglue sealing a gut wound story |
| 16:36.50 | Torhal | Aha |
| 16:37.04 | Wobin | but aside from that, is one of the funniest movies I've seen in a long time |
| 16:37.15 | Wobin | that totally doesn't take itself seriously, but still manages to stay in character |
| 16:37.27 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 16:38.18 | nicoli_s | i saw dog soldiers on freaking scifi, it was meh |
| 16:38.46 | Wobin | You weren't expecting a good movie, were you? With great special effects? |
| 16:38.53 | Wobin | Silly nicoli |
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| 16:41.46 | nicoli_s | i wasnt, im just saying it was nothing special |
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| 16:53.29 | Shirik | cries |
| 16:53.33 | Shirik | there is no comma operator in C# |
| 16:53.39 | nevcairiel | comma operator? |
| 16:53.51 | durcyn | mentioning that channel in here is likely to get you lynched, nicoli_s |
| 16:54.04 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 16:54.06 | Shirik | yeah |
| 16:54.09 | Shirik | like |
| 16:54.09 | nicoli_s | well i saw it years and years ago |
| 16:54.12 | Shirik | int a = foo(), 4 |
| 16:54.14 | Shirik | or something |
| 16:54.17 | nicoli_s | before it wasnt as horrible as it is now |
| 16:54.19 | Shirik | bad example, but still |
| 16:54.25 | Cide | implicit tuple packing? |
| 16:54.28 | durcyn | though i will allow that s*f* original programming is very useful as a drinking game |
| 16:54.42 | Shirik | it evaluates the first argument, discards its value, evaluates the second, and returns the second |
| 16:55.00 | Cide | foo(); int a = 4; // I hear this works fine~! |
| 16:55.07 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 16:55.07 | Dewin | Shirik: That technically is a comma operator in some interesting ways... but not lua-isque :) |
| 16:55.12 | Shirik | sure |
| 16:55.16 | Shirik | in that example |
| 16:55.18 | Shirik | how about this one |
| 16:55.22 | Shirik | transformCombiner = () => combiner.CombinedComponent.Accept(dumper), dumper.ToString(); |
| 16:55.37 | Cide | I have no idea what '= () =>' does |
| 16:55.48 | Dewin | as in: for(a = 1, b = 1; ++a, ++b; a < foo) |
| 16:55.50 | Shirik | the comma operator is useful when you need something to be an expression |
| 16:55.52 | Shirik | not a statement |
| 16:56.07 | Shirik | it basically makes a closure, Cide |
| 16:56.26 | nevcairiel | I don't think i ever used it |
| 16:56.46 | Shirik | I use it every so often |
| 16:56.56 | Dewin | err, I got my for backwards, coffee not working yet |
| 16:56.57 | Cide | is there something preventing you from assigning transformCombiner twice, or just skipping the initial assignment? |
| 16:57.28 | Shirik | Accept() returns void |
| 16:57.35 | MentalPower|AFK | I've never seen = () => before |
| 16:57.39 | Cide | so the latter? |
| 16:57.47 | Shirik | I'm creating a closure, not doing it at this line |
| 16:57.49 | Shirik | it's done some time in the future |
| 16:58.11 | Cide | () => combiner.CombinedComponent.Accept(dumper); transformCombiner = dumper.ToString(); |
| 16:58.13 | Shirik | think of = () => as "function() ... <rest of line> ... end" |
| 16:58.29 | Shirik | transformCombiner is a function, Cide |
| 16:58.34 | Shirik | or, in C#'s terms, a delegate |
| 16:58.38 | Cide | I'm scared |
| 16:58.48 | Shirik | sorry, closer to |
| 16:58.56 | Shirik | function() return --[[ rest of line ]] end |
| 16:59.09 | nevcairiel | you cant have two calls in a delegate without that comma hackery attempt? |
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| 16:59.20 | Cide | ^ |
| 16:59.22 | Cide | see above |
| 16:59.23 | Shirik | you can, but it gets ufly |
| 16:59.24 | Shirik | ugly |
| 16:59.27 | Shirik | I opted for |
| 16:59.27 | Shirik | transformCombiner = delegate() { combiner.CombinedComponent.Accept(dumper); return dumper.ToString(); }; |
| 16:59.39 | nevcairiel | thats not really uglyer |
| 16:59.40 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 16:59.44 | Shirik | I think it is :( |
| 16:59.45 | Cide | seems like a better solution anyway :P |
| 16:59.48 | KarlKFI | but i cant see the above, cide |
| 16:59.58 | Cide | KarlKFI: that's because you're so fat |
| 17:00.01 | nicoli_s | anonymous delegates arent that ugly as long as you dont use em everywhere |
| 17:00.17 | Cide | <nevcairiel> you cant have two calls in a delegate without that comma hackery attempt? |
| 17:00.17 | Cide | * KarlKFI (n=chatzill@adcom005v.adcom.uci.edu) has joined #WoWUIDev |
| 17:00.23 | KarlKFI | well i do enjoy sitting AROUND the house... |
| 17:00.35 | Cide | didn't paste the relevant line, oh well |
| 17:00.39 | KarlKFI | lol |
| 17:00.44 | Wobin | (or really lamba expressions) |
| 17:00.47 | KarlKFI | fail, cide |
| 17:00.56 | Lopeppeppy | gives KarlKFI a big hug |
| 17:01.05 | KarlKFI | yays, a peppy hug! |
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| 17:01.46 | KarlKFI | i'm gonna need more of those... i'm sposed to move this weekend, but my utilities wont be transfered till monday >.< |
| 17:02.05 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew, craptastic! Here's to fingers crossed for leechable wireless, at least. |
| 17:02.22 | Lopeppeppy | I heard about what they did, I'm hoping to stop by my rental office tomorrow and make sure they didn't do the same thing to me!! |
| 17:02.26 | Lopeppeppy | If they're open. |
| 17:02.31 | KarlKFI | yeah, at least i can 3G my email |
| 17:03.08 | KarlKFI | i'm hopign they at least have the gas and electric turned on already and just not in my name |
| 17:03.25 | Lopeppeppy | Most apartments do, Karl, so you should be okay. |
| 17:03.34 | KarlKFI | aye |
| 17:03.37 | Lopeppeppy | No electric in CA would... suck mindblowingly. |
| 17:03.38 | KarlKFI | kinda need the fridge on |
| 17:03.55 | Lopeppeppy | I was thinking fan/ac, myself. |
| 17:04.10 | KarlKFI | yeah, esp after moving on 90 degree 4th of july weekend |
| 17:05.04 | KarlKFI | saturday's gonna be a mess too, gonna end up driving 100 miles or something to see firworks with fam |
| 17:05.22 | Wobin | Func<string> transformCombiner = () => { combiner.CombinedComponent.Accept(dumper); return dumper.ToString();} |
| 17:05.30 | KarlKFI | i should just go sit outside disneyland... |
| 17:05.44 | KarlKFI | actually, that's a good idea.. |
| 17:06.18 | KarlKFI | nah, wont work |
| 17:06.35 | KarlKFI | so, i think i interupted something |
| 17:06.55 | KarlKFI | what's wobin doing? that's not lua |
| 17:07.10 | Wobin | C# |
| 17:07.11 | nevcairiel | thats C#, supposedly |
| 17:07.21 | Wobin | lamda functions |
| 17:07.26 | KarlKFI | wft is =()=> ? |
| 17:07.28 | Wobin | er, expressions |
| 17:07.35 | Wobin | like delegates |
| 17:07.48 | Wobin | anonymous functions |
| 17:08.09 | KarlKFI | that's the worst lamda syntax i've ever seen |
| 17:08.21 | Wobin | You'd better tell them then =( |
| 17:08.31 | Wobin | It'd be horrible if they went on unknowing of that |
| 17:08.41 | nevcairiel | I just rememberd that PHP got lambda functions in 5.3 now .. wonder what their syntax is |
| 17:08.54 | nevcairiel | knowing php, it'll be awful =P |
| 17:09.10 | Wobin | KarlKFI: anyway, the empty () indicate there are no input variables =P |
| 17:09.48 | Wobin | it looks to make more sense if it had something like Func<int, int, string> MyFunc = (int1, int2)=> { do some stuff here; return string;} |
| 17:09.49 | KarlKFI | php isn't that bad: $change_i = create_function('$i', 'return '.$op.'$i;'); |
| 17:09.56 | nevcairiel | thats the old syntax |
| 17:10.01 | nevcairiel | they have proper stuff since 5.3 |
| 17:10.12 | nevcairiel | $bla = function() { ... } |
| 17:10.20 | nevcairiel | so the compiler can detect syntax errors |
| 17:10.21 | KarlKFI | even better |
| 17:10.46 | KarlKFI | that's how it SHOULD look |
| 17:10.56 | KarlKFI | none of those stupid equal signs floating around |
| 17:11.13 | Dewin | did Shirik poof? |
| 17:11.18 | Shirik | yes |
| 17:11.40 | KarlKFI | pokes Shirik with a pointy stick. |
| 17:11.57 | Dewin | So... feature requests, etc. should go to the Minion bugtracker yes? |
| 17:12.07 | Dewin | for Minion, that is |
| 17:12.09 | Shirik | yes |
| 17:12.20 | Dewin | oh, NOW I see the 'feature' option under Severity |
| 17:12.20 | Wobin | You tell 'em KarlKFI |
| 17:12.38 | KarlKFI | blame MS |
| 17:12.49 | KarlKFI | syntax man needs to be fired |
| 17:12.52 | Wobin | Personally, I don't care =P It's just syntax |
| 17:13.05 | KarlKFI | syntax should be intuitive |
| 17:13.07 | Wobin | it's not even confusing syntax |
| 17:13.13 | Wobin | => is clearly an arrow |
| 17:13.21 | KarlKFI | and using what everyone else is using makes it more intuitive |
| 17:13.25 | KarlKFI | :P |
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| 17:14.44 | KarlKFI | ooo shun knives on sale @ amazon |
| 17:14.55 | KarlKFI | i wants me one |
| 17:15.03 | Wobin | ah, but using =) is no less intuitive than :) |
| 17:15.24 | KarlKFI | those both translated into the same smilie face |
| 17:15.42 | Wobin | see? It's not the same, yet interpreted the same |
| 17:15.55 | Wobin | thus, both intuitively determined |
| 17:16.02 | KarlKFI | variety is the spice of life, not inconsistancy |
| 17:16.20 | Wobin | As I said, I'd agree, if it were unintuitive. |
| 17:16.32 | KarlKFI | uh huh |
| 17:16.36 | Wobin | But as => is clearly an arrow, it's clear enough for me |
| 17:16.36 | KarlKFI | side with MS then |
| 17:16.42 | Seerah | hubby does :^) |
| 17:16.54 | Wobin | well, more to the point, there's no point uselessly complaining about it |
| 17:16.59 | Wobin | cause there's nothing you can do about it |
| 17:17.12 | KarlKFI | that's ok, it's still more intuitive than C-obj syntax |
| 17:17.17 | Wobin | especially for something so minimally different |
| 17:17.32 | Wobin | if you're going to use your powers for good, use them on something with a larger scope than that =P |
| 17:17.38 | KarlKFI | big differences are easier to remember. |
| 17:17.46 | KarlKFI | small differences are what you forget |
| 17:17.57 | Wobin | Not if you do it for a living |
| 17:18.15 | KarlKFI | well if you onyl ever use 1 language i spose |
| 17:18.21 | Shirik | Wobin: I prefer not to use the lambda operator in its statement form |
| 17:18.28 | Shirik | if it requires multiple statements, use delegate() instead |
| 17:18.47 | Wobin | it's all just syntatic sugar, at that point, I guess =) |
| 17:18.49 | Shirik | that is, |
| 17:19.04 | KarlKFI | goes back to writing his own custom multithreaded JDBC library |
| 17:19.05 | Wobin | *c |
| 17:19.07 | Shirik | Func<int, int, int> MyFunc = (int1, int2) => return int1+int2 |
| 17:19.26 | KarlKFI | cringes |
| 17:19.33 | Shirik | vs. Func<int, int, int> MyFunc = delegate(int int1, int int2) { some stuff; return int1 + int2; } |
| 17:19.44 | Shirik | that being said, I also don't use Func<> |
| 17:19.57 | Shirik | I use delegate int Func(int, int); |
| 17:20.21 | Wobin | shrugs, as above, syntactic sugar |
| 17:20.21 | Shirik | or rather |
| 17:20.26 | Shirik | delegate int Foo(int, int) |
| 17:20.30 | Shirik | yeah |
| 17:20.39 | Wobin | The aspartamene of coding =) |
| 17:20.47 | Shirik | aspartame? |
| 17:20.54 | Wobin | my terrible misspelling of the word |
| 17:21.24 | Wobin | because there's no way I can mangle phenylketonerics in a recognisable fashion |
| 17:22.03 | Wobin | aspartame |
| 17:22.08 | ccox | phenylketonuric |
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| 17:22.54 | Wobin | and Phenylalanine |
| 17:23.15 | Vilkku | Anyone that could give me some quick help with LDB? Mainly, how can I enable the "right side plugin" (in Titan) option for a LDB object? |
| 17:23.27 | Wobin | that said, it's 3:20am |
| 17:23.36 | Wobin | and I'm doing well to remember they exist |
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| 17:26.01 | Lunessa | STATION |
| 17:26.05 | Wobin | hehe cool |
| 17:26.07 | Wobin | INDIAN laws banning gay sex have been overturned in a landmark judgment in New Delhi. |
| 17:27.45 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Lunessa. |
| 17:28.04 | Vilkku | nevermind, got it :) |
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| 17:33.55 | NightHawkTheSane | >< there really is such a thing as to much weaponry in EV Nova. |
| 17:35.22 | ccox | NightHawkTheSane: never, unless you cheat |
| 17:35.45 | ccox | <-- played EV Nova to the "end" multiple times |
| 17:35.47 | NightHawkTheSane | ccox: i'm not cheating. but i -am- blowing things up too fast, its hard to just disable them sometimes. :( |
| 17:36.20 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, same. felt like playing it again lately, though |
| 17:37.17 | Wobin | EV Nova? |
| 17:37.33 | KarlKFI | EVNova ftw |
| 17:37.44 | ccox | Escape Velocity Nova |
| 17:37.59 | ccox | http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/ |
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| 17:38.23 | KarlKFI | if you're blowing things up too fast, go conquer some planets. |
| 17:38.30 | ccox | another seeming simply but incredibly addicting game from the guys at Ambrosia Software |
| 17:38.55 | NightHawkTheSane | KarlKFI: hm, not a bad idea. |
| 17:39.00 | KarlKFI | it's fun because they have like 10 plot lines |
| 17:39.19 | ccox | and at some points you can switch lines |
| 17:39.54 | KarlKFI | it's one of the only games i've actually beat multiple times.... that wasn't on NES |
| 17:40.14 | KarlKFI | cause you know i beat bubble bobble and Mario 3 a gazillion times |
| 17:41.02 | KarlKFI | oh and Super mario RPG |
| 17:41.09 | KarlKFI | SNES tho |
| 17:42.51 | Thunder_Child | http://www.despair.com/dorkcraft.html |
| 17:43.38 | KarlKFI | why would anyone wear that? |
| 17:44.15 | Thunder_Child | it was in response to the fact that someone would buy a $200 gold plated stein http://3point.com/warcraftsteins/ |
| 17:44.18 | Lunessa | KarlKFI: because they think they're superior for not playing WoW. |
| 17:44.31 | Shirik | woot |
| 17:44.33 | Shirik | now I'm breaking FxCop! |
| 17:45.05 | Shirik | MSBUILD : error : CA0001 : Rule=Microsoft.Usage#CA2212, Target=Insitu.EAComponentTransformAddin.Element.#GetSubElement`1() : Collection was modified; enumeration operation may not execute. |
| 17:45.52 | KarlKFI | nifty gift item i spose.. |
| 17:46.14 | KarlKFI | for the man who has everything + wow addiction |
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| 17:53.37 | KarlKFI | gah, the guy int ehy next cubicle over has the most dronign irritating voice ever.. |
| 17:53.56 | KarlKFI | forgot his headphones today |
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| 18:16.05 | Aelobin | KarlKFI: i wondered where you were for a second that 0_o because you said "cubicle" |
| 18:16.42 | KarlKFI | um... work? |
| 18:16.54 | Aelobin | yus nvm i know that, just not at first glance :P |
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| 18:30.16 | Fisker | så bygger jeg da bare en dige Shirik |
| 18:30.31 | Shirik | love you too |
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| 18:31.45 | Lunessa | Awwww... it's a lovein |
| 18:32.33 | Fisker | wut Shirik ? :E |
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| 18:39.12 | Fisker | why do you love me Shirik ? |
| 18:41.16 | Lopeppeppy | I gave him too much thorazine earlier. It's not his fault. |
| 18:42.09 | Kraps | not really enjoying diablo |
| 18:42.35 | KarlKFI | *click click click click click click click click click click click click * |
| 18:42.43 | Kraps | yeah |
| 18:42.52 | Kraps | but thats the easy part |
| 18:43.42 | KarlKFI | i'm stuck in areat summit on hell mode on my pally. i can't do it... |
| 18:44.05 | Kraps | never played an rpg before so maybe i just need to acquire a taste |
| 18:44.25 | KarlKFI | never played wow? |
| 18:44.46 | Kraps | not counting mmos |
| 18:45.59 | Kraps | or maybe pallys just suck everywhere |
| 18:46.21 | Kraps | :) |
| 18:46.47 | Kraps | the graphics irk me too |
| 18:47.01 | Kraps | yes i know its an old game |
| 18:47.06 | Kirov | heh |
| 18:47.51 | Kraps | i couldnt finish star wars ep 1 either |
| 18:48.19 | Kirov | because of the graphics? |
| 18:48.30 | Kraps | :) |
| 18:48.39 | Kirov | Mainly, those of Jar Jar. |
| 18:48.40 | Kraps | the "oldness" |
| 18:48.55 | Kirov | ep 1? |
| 18:49.01 | Kirov | you mean ep4? |
| 18:49.16 | Kraps | oh ya |
| 18:49.31 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.50 | Arrowmaster | for d2 pally? |
| 18:49.53 | Arrowmaster | zeal everything |
| 18:50.00 | Kirov | You mean the bestest most awesometastic Star Wars evar? |
| 18:50.35 | Kraps | whats so good about it? |
| 18:51.09 | Thunder_Child | you know, misreading diablo for dildo is iritating |
| 18:51.21 | ScytheBlade1 | o_o |
| 18:51.45 | Thunder_Child | and having KarlKFI's click click click thing right after is not helpfull |
| 18:52.09 | Kirov | My fiancee has the same problem with "oldness". We were watching Excalibur, made in 1981. Horrible acting, bad effects, rediculous plot ... better than average for 1981. |
| 18:52.53 | Kirov | I was enjoying myself, she asked "how long have we been watching this movie? an hour?" it'd been 10 minutes. |
| 18:53.22 | Kraps | lulz |
| 18:54.02 | Kirov | Though, she's seriously ADD most of the time. She's fallen asleep during UP, Wall-E, even Cars and Monsters Inc. |
| 18:54.29 | Kirov | If a movie doesn't have something exciting on screen for the last 2 minutes, she goes lights out. |
| 18:54.37 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: regarding graphics, do you have a hack to enable higher resolutions? I could see 800x600 not looking too nice on 22" LCDs (or whatever you have :D) |
| 18:54.48 | Kraps | she doesnt like pixar duh :D |
| 18:55.10 | Kirov | Kraps - She loves all of those movies, except Wall-E which she hated. |
| 18:55.23 | Kraps | LEAKIN ICE CREAM INC |
| 18:55.36 | tekkub | bah, wally was great |
| 18:55.47 | tekkub | c'mon, making fun of fat people |
| 18:55.50 | Kirov | Wall-E was an amazing movie. |
| 18:56.02 | Kirov | She hated it because, quote, "nothing happened" |
| 18:56.12 | Kirov | We'll ignore she fell asleep for more than half the movie. |
| 18:56.15 | tekkub | well nothing really did happen |
| 18:56.18 | Kraps | Gnarfoz: where do you get that? |
| 18:56.26 | tekkub | oh, yea that'll happen |
| 18:56.28 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: good question, hrmm |
| 18:56.42 | NeoTron | Pixar really has a nice set of magic sauce in their movies |
| 18:56.51 | NeoTron | haven't seen one that I didn't like at the time |
| 18:56.57 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: let me check my browser history, I know I saw one of them recently (must have been an IRC link, I've not touched D2 for years) |
| 18:58.23 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: http://fidgit.com/archives/2009/06/play_diablo_2_in_high_resoluti.php |
| 18:59.23 | Gnarfoz | doesn't look bad at all, actually: http://www.wsgfmedia.com/ibrin/diablo2-1280x720.jpg |
| 18:59.40 | Gnarfoz | I should do something else, lest I be tempted to install D2. |
| 18:59.40 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:01.19 | Kraps | heres something else: I GOT ICE CREAM ALL UP IN MY SHIRT |
| 19:01.38 | ccox | (please, let them fix the sound in this PTR patch) |
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| 19:02.00 | tekkub | I didn't see "ICE" there at first... |
| 19:02.34 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: sadly that high-res hack doesnt work when playing bnet =( |
| 19:03.10 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I don't care about bnet, really :o |
| 19:03.26 | Gnarfoz | gimme some hot D3 LAN action... -oh wait |
| 19:03.33 | NeoTron | I just want D3 to come out, with native 1900x1280 support or what not |
| 19:03.40 | Kraps | Gnarfoz: SOON |
| 19:03.53 | nevcairiel | i'm sure it'll have support for any resolution you can think of =P |
| 19:03.59 | Gnarfoz | yeah, but not for lan :p |
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| 19:05.10 | Lunessa | Kraps: You should get a needle and poke her every time she passes out during a movie. |
| 19:05.37 | Kraps | Lunessa: you want Kirov |
| 19:05.50 | tem|work | SIGH @ going to wowilounge and being confused because I'm the only person there |
| 19:05.58 | Lunessa | Or you know, I could tell the right person. |
| 19:06.15 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeple are stupid, they don't understand why we don't allow flashing .gifs |
| 19:06.18 | Kirov | Lunessa - Usually I just wave popcorn under her nose. |
| 19:06.43 | Lopeppeppy | I've done that a lot lately, Tem. *hug* |
| 19:06.46 | Lunessa | So, the faction change development announcement is made, and suddenly I'm getting all kinds of recruitment offers. |
| 19:07.04 | Gnarfoz | tem|work: is the redirect gone? |
| 19:07.23 | Thunder_Child | no, it's wowi-lounge |
| 19:07.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: they just want your body |
| 19:07.28 | Gnarfoz | right |
| 19:07.40 | Thunder_Child | though it's not hard to do wowuidev instead |
| 19:07.42 | Lunessa | Yeah, for spare parts! |
| 19:07.48 | Dagmar | For snacks. |
| 19:08.06 | Lopeppeppy | It's a faction change *and* a race change... It's not like one can be a draeni for the horde. |
| 19:08.26 | tem|work | oh my |
| 19:08.30 | tem|work | this is.... |
| 19:08.32 | tem|work | http://www.fliqz.com/aspx/permalinkblank.aspx?vid=765ce58525ea4c07a85e8aa00e399563 |
| 19:08.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: at least you're wanted? |
| 19:08.33 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: Try telling that to the forum trolls |
| 19:08.45 | Lunessa | SBO - totally. |
| 19:08.55 | Lopeppeppy | So any draeni shaman would become a tauren, I'd assume? |
| 19:08.57 | tem|work | Gnarfoz: the redirect is for #wowi-lounge |
| 19:09.00 | Lopeppeppy | lurvs Lunessa. |
| 19:09.18 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: or an orc, I don't think there's fixed relations (yet) |
| 19:09.26 | alestane | Or a troll. |
| 19:09.29 | Lunessa | lurvs Lopeppeppy |
| 19:09.52 | Gnarfoz | or a belf! |
| 19:09.56 | Gnarfoz | no, wait... |
| 19:09.59 | tem|work | no belf shaman |
| 19:10.00 | Lopeppeppy | Did I tell you I lost my authenticator packing, Lunessa? I think I did. |
| 19:10.07 | Lunessa | :( |
| 19:10.14 | tem|work | So, my guild does this thing I think is awesome |
| 19:10.23 | alestane | Which presumably means you'll find it unpacking. We hope. |
| 19:10.27 | tem|work | we make calls on vent for using the Orb of the Sin'dorei |
| 19:10.34 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't pack it, I shoved it somewhere "safe" I'm sure. |
| 19:10.43 | tem|work | so that the whole raid goes belf together |
| 19:10.47 | Cide- | lua> (3.07^2 + 3.75^2)^0.5 |
| 19:10.47 | lua_bot | Cide-: 4.8463800923989 |
| 19:10.50 | tem|work | ditto iron boot flask |
| 19:11.02 | tem|work | and pygmy oil |
| 19:11.15 | tem|work | and the extra rare pygmy oil -> belf for femal belf |
| 19:11.34 | Gnarfoz | your whole raid has orbs of the sin'dorei? ;o |
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| 19:11.48 | tem|work | Gnarfoz: not quite |
| 19:11.51 | tem|work | most of us do |
| 19:11.57 | tem|work | the ones that don't bitch about it daily |
| 19:12.01 | Gnarfoz | I think I need to farm that |
| 19:12.12 | tem|work | (and then after raid they go farm it) |
| 19:12.34 | Gnarfoz | could probably motivate some people who want the mount still |
| 19:12.50 | Gnarfoz | 'cause I already got that =) |
| 19:13.08 | Gnarfoz | (not that it's any use, male draenei on a fucking cockatrice) |
| 19:15.23 | tem|work | Gnarfoz: what class are you? |
| 19:15.31 | Gnarfoz | Paladin! :D |
| 19:15.32 | tem|work | Hero classes can solo Heroic MgT |
| 19:15.44 | Gnarfoz | not the plural |
| 19:15.44 | tem|work | that's how I got my orb, mount and pet |
| 19:15.46 | Gnarfoz | *note |
| 19:15.47 | tem|work | (in 3 days!) |
| 19:16.13 | Duman | hmm |
| 19:16.14 | Gnarfoz | I could go prot and solo it, probably, I don't really care to try it |
| 19:16.29 | nevcairiel | i failed on soloing Heroic MgT as a druid, couldnt get kaelthas down before his silly pyroblasts killed me |
| 19:16.29 | tem|work | Soloing things is one of my greatest pleasures in the game |
| 19:16.32 | Gnarfoz | could just as well get some of the (other, sadly) guys who has no job join me |
| 19:16.44 | tem|work | nevcairiel: AMS > Pyroblast :D |
| 19:17.02 | Gnarfoz | just you wait :o |
| 19:17.15 | nevcairiel | My DK isnt that well equipped, sadly |
| 19:17.19 | nevcairiel | like naxx10 gear |
| 19:17.21 | Gnarfoz | my DK is 55! |
| 19:17.23 | tem|work | I totally sadfaced when I realized I couldn't solo rag |
| 19:17.32 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:17.39 | tem|work | avoiding the fall damage is easy enough with noggenfogger |
| 19:17.49 | tem|work | but with nothing in melee range, he wtfpwns you too fast |
| 19:18.00 | tem|work | I need to give it another try with fire resist gear |
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| 19:18.46 | tem|work | I should try soloing Kara as well |
| 19:18.55 | nevcairiel | i did that |
| 19:18.57 | nevcairiel | thats easy |
| 19:18.58 | tem|work | I guess netherspite might be a problem |
| 19:19.07 | tem|work | but then I can skip him |
| 19:19.13 | nevcairiel | yeah i did :D |
| 19:19.16 | tem|work | hmm, how's chess solo nowadays? |
| 19:19.32 | Dagmar | No harder than it's ever been |
| 19:19.39 | Dagmar | Getting to it solo is dodgy tho |
| 19:19.42 | tem|work | well they nerfed that a while back |
| 19:19.54 | nevcairiel | Dagmar: on 80 you can just wtfpwn all the mobs .. i had no issue there |
| 19:19.56 | tem|work | they give you the mind exhaustion debuff or whatever |
| 19:20.06 | tem|work | nevcairiel: what opera event did you get? |
| 19:20.13 | Dagmar | nevcairiel: You can just stomp the chess pieces yourself? SweeT! |
| 19:20.15 | nevcairiel | juliett |
| 19:20.31 | tem|work | I'd figure that one to be the toughest |
| 19:20.38 | tem|work | (solo) |
| 19:20.43 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 19:20.45 | tem|work | BBW might be rough as well |
| 19:20.54 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 19:21.11 | nevcairiel | i only did it once, after that i only killed attumen for the mount |
| 19:21.16 | tem|work | anyway, train of thought: Solo Kara -> Use Badges to buy FR set -> Solo Rag |
| 19:21.17 | nevcairiel | but i got bored after a while |
| 19:21.21 | nevcairiel | wont drop anyway with my luck |
| 19:22.43 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: I solod heroic MgT. Had the most issues with the 2nd boss although I did get one wipe on KT too |
| 19:22.59 | nevcairiel | As a druid? |
| 19:23.09 | Kraps | are WC3:Roc and TFT separate games? |
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| 19:23.15 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 19:23.23 | ScytheBlade1 | TFT requires RoC |
| 19:23.23 | Kraps | huh |
| 19:23.39 | nevcairiel | well its not seperate games, really |
| 19:23.42 | nevcairiel | TFT is an expansion |
| 19:23.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Very similar to how BW requires SC |
| 19:24.00 | Kraps | ? |
| 19:24.02 | nevcairiel | Like Wrath requires Classic :P |
| 19:24.28 | Kraps | yes bu theres 2 separate icons for WC3 |
| 19:24.55 | ScytheBlade1 | They are two different games |
| 19:25.11 | Kraps | mk |
| 19:25.27 | nevcairiel | yeah well you have to start the RoC version if you want to play the old campaign |
| 19:26.14 | Kraps | how do i run stuff windowed? |
| 19:26.33 | Kraps | -w where? |
| 19:27.10 | Kraps | "C:\Program Files\Blizzard\Warcraft III\Warcraft III.exe" -w ya? |
| 19:27.39 | Nitra | Correct |
| 19:27.43 | Kraps | ty |
| 19:28.03 | KarlKFI | cmd-m wtf |
| 19:29.07 | tem|work | wtf is cmd-m? |
| 19:29.15 | Kraps | mac thing |
| 19:29.25 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.interbent.com/images/yahoo-answers.png |
| 19:30.20 | Kraps | -w isnt working |
| 19:30.45 | Kraps | ScytheBlade1: harsh |
| 19:32.18 | Nitra | Kraps, a quick google search tells me -window should be used instead of -w |
| 19:32.47 | Kraps | yay |
| 19:33.39 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: as a DK |
| 19:34.03 | NeoTron | but I had to significantly change tactic on KT. used AotD etc |
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| 19:41.41 | Kraps | why are the WC3 cinematics flickering? :( |
| 19:42.41 | nicoli_s | cuz yer comp isnt good enough? |
| 19:42.51 | Kraps | right... |
| 19:43.01 | Kraps | no |
| 19:43.40 | Lunessa | alestane: You should have said "On the gripping hand..." |
| 19:43.51 | Kraps | the wow cinematics work fine |
| 19:44.33 | Lopeppeppy | It's not a question of where he grips it. |
| 19:44.41 | airtonix | lulz |
| 19:45.09 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Moties use three-valued logic expressions based on the number of hands. First, Second and Gripping. :P |
| 19:45.49 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, sometimes you get that with games that were designed for lower versions of graphics drivers. |
| 19:45.57 | Lopeppeppy | I can't play Dungeon Keeper anymore, it just don't run. :( |
| 19:46.22 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, fine, I no tease you with lol-quotes. :P |
| 19:46.48 | nicoli_s | its just the law that as your computer gets better, then old games will somehow run shittier |
| 19:46.53 | ScytheBlade1 | heh - "Did you feel that? A great disturbance in the Force, as if 17 billion bytes simultaneously cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. It's so profoundly sad. " |
| 19:46.56 | Lunessa | I got the monty python reference. But my mind wanted to make it dirty. |
| 19:47.03 | nicoli_s | like try running baldur's gate 2 on a current computer, it crawls |
| 19:47.41 | Lunessa | Anyone remember PCGeos? Or Turbo Buttons? |
| 19:48.08 | Lopeppeppy | oooh, naughty Lunessa. |
| 19:48.13 | Lopeppeppy | censors her next statement |
| 19:48.23 | Lunessa | I'm a bad man! |
| 19:48.28 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a very bad girl. |
| 19:48.36 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:53.35 | Lunessa | a full five minutes of silence.... a new record. |
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| 19:54.13 | Cralor` | what's the API for setting a frame's background in Lua? |
| 19:54.27 | Cralor` | Would it be SetTexture? |
| 19:54.28 | alestane | SetBackdrop? |
| 19:54.37 | Cralor` | ~api SetBackdrop |
| 19:54.38 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetBackdrop |
| 19:54.38 | Kirov | Table hell |
| 19:54.39 | alestane | AFK a bit. |
| 19:55.00 | Cralor` | !api SetBackdrop |
| 19:55.01 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'SetBackdrop': Frame:SetBackdrop, Frame:SetBackdropColor, Frame:SetBackdropBorderColor |
| 19:55.07 | Kirov | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_SetBackdrop |
| 19:55.12 | Cralor` | ah |
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| 19:55.24 | Cralor` | perfect. thanks |
| 19:57.57 | Kraps | why does Medivh have to talk in huge fucking crop circles? |
| 19:58.24 | Lunessa | because he's 'mysterious' and it's his thing. |
| 19:58.44 | Dagmar | I'm still waiting for him to explain where he got all those orcs from |
| 19:58.45 | Lopeppeppy | Scary mage talks scary. |
| 19:58.56 | Lopeppeppy | Go watch Lord of the Rings, and you'll see, Dagmar. :P |
| 19:59.02 | Dagmar | heh |
| 19:59.23 | Lunessa | Solyent Green is ORCS! |
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| 20:03.13 | Lopeppeppy | nom nom nom! |
| 20:03.14 | Cralor` | do you use CreateFrame("button") to make a button? |
| 20:03.17 | Lopeppeppy | Tastes like elf. |
| 20:11.07 | Kraps | WC3s chain lightning is way cooler than wows :) |
| 20:11.42 | ScytheBlade1 | much |
| 20:11.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Also you're going to rofl at the Cyclone in War3 |
| 20:12.05 | ScytheBlade1 | It makes the druids we have in WoW look incredibly underpowered |
| 20:12.54 | Cide- | yep |
| 20:13.02 | Cide- | boom half of the enemy's force in the air for 10 sec |
| 20:14.03 | Kraps | the way the maps opens is better than any top-view game ever |
| 20:20.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide-: much much longer than 10s |
| 20:21.41 | Lopeppeppy | is bored. |
| 20:23.03 | zenzelezz | entertains Lopeppeppy |
| 20:23.47 | Lunessa | In the manner of the song? |
| 20:25.49 | Kraps | zugzug? |
| 20:26.31 | zenzelezz | lok'tar |
| 20:28.22 | Lopeppeppy | lurvs zenzelezz. |
| 20:29.26 | Lopeppeppy | TTFN! |
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| 20:34.20 | Cralor` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjaiqR6R44&feature=player_embedded |
| 20:35.13 | Cralor` | i laughed |
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| 20:43.49 | airtonix | enumerating the list of existing chatwindows is done by sniffing the global variables? or is there a function for this ? |
| 20:44.07 | airtonix | found it |
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| 20:56.51 | NeoTron | :se noai |
| 20:56.51 | NeoTron | a:se ai |
| 20:56.58 | NeoTron | ack |
| 20:57.02 | NightHawkTheSane | wrong window, NeoTron? :P |
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| 21:11.57 | NeoTron | no |
| 21:12.11 | NeoTron | just screen being stupid |
| 21:15.02 | Kraps | er... WC3 jaina had breast enhancement surgery? |
| 21:17.50 | nicoli_s | yep, its in the manual |
| 21:19.39 | alestane | "Our new plans for Soul Shards will help here. We want to make them a core mechanic instead of a minor feature that can be neglected at best and feels tedious at worst. " |
| 21:20.11 | NeoTron | just in time for level 90 |
| 21:26.29 | Dagmar | Right. No more soul shards for you at all then. |
| 21:27.09 | Kirov | qu |
| 21:27.46 | durcyn | i like the talk about removing hellfire, when it's the only warlock appearance in the old intro video |
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| 21:28.17 | alestane | I think there's a place for Hellfire, but it doesn't work right the way it is now. |
| 21:28.26 | Dagmar | WHy you people even care about face time in the videos, when IT'S NOT YOUR TOON UP THERE, I've no idea. |
| 21:28.45 | alestane | The concept of standing in a raging inferno fits warlcoks fairly well. |
| 21:28.47 | alestane | sp* |
| 21:28.57 | Dagmar | I think of it as like the caster's version of going berzerk. |
| 21:29.17 | Dagmar | Manliest caster wins. Everything else dies. |
| 21:29.48 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, warlock hellfire duels? :P |
| 21:29.57 | Dagmar | Mages never get upset enough to start nuking themselves indiscriminately |
| 21:30.13 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: I've actually done that. Heh |
| 21:30.27 | Dagmar | Not suprisingly, you can both die just fine |
| 21:30.45 | alestane | Now, if it did something like increase your spell power by a bit more each tick for so many seconds after the spell, that would be cool. |
| 21:30.55 | Dagmar | That would be EXTRA manly |
| 21:35.29 | alestane | Instead of a big blazing AoE, maybe something more like a fire shield on steroids...anyone who hits you gets set on fire, every tick you take damage but jack your spell power. That would be warlock to the core. |
| 21:36.28 | Dagmar | I'm more comfy with the idea of someone losing their cool and standing in the middle of a self-generated maelstrom of destructive force |
| 21:36.34 | Dagmar | It's better than cutting. :) |
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| 21:37.28 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. xhtml 2 is dead.. |
| 21:37.37 | alestane | What was it for? |
| 21:38.33 | Tuller | html5 |
| 21:39.30 | alestane | I thought they said they were making an XHTML version of HTML 5? |
| 21:40.05 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* i'm just reading this news item: http://www.w3.org/News/2009#item119 |
| 21:40.26 | NightHawkTheSane | the xhtml2 working group will stop work, and resouces will be shifted to the html5 working group |
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| 21:42.19 | Cralor` | am I using SetBackdrop wrong? http://pastey.net/116991 |
| 21:43.26 | alestane | Cralor`: No, but you're using Lua slightly wrong. |
| 21:43.43 | Cralor` | go for it |
| 21:44.00 | alestane | "Interface\DialogFrame\UI-DialogBox-Background" needs to be either [[Interface\DialogFrame\UI-DialogBox-Background]] or "Interface\\DialogFrame\\UI-DialogBox-Background". |
| 21:44.04 | Lopeppeppy | Hey KarlKFI, wanna hear something awesome? They changed my move date! |
| 21:44.11 | Cralor` | Oh! |
| 21:44.13 | Cralor` | right |
| 21:44.20 | Cralor` | i was going from XML -> Lua and I forgot that part! |
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| 21:44.38 | KarlKFI | lol peppy |
| 21:44.41 | KarlKFI | sad |
| 21:44.45 | KarlKFI | earlier? |
| 21:46.26 | alestane | ScytheBlade1: On that Zerg vs. Protoss level, it looks like even dealing with the photon cannons on top of the cliffs aggros the other factions? |
| 21:47.11 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: yup |
| 21:47.32 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: stick to your base and expand - don't try anything remotely aggressive until you've got your forces good to go |
| 21:47.37 | Lopeppeppy | 2.5 weeks earlier! |
| 21:48.27 | alestane | Mostly it's an issue because there are a couple of spots inside the cliff that are within the spotting range of a photon cannon on the cliff. |
| 21:49.15 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm, there shouldn't be |
| 21:49.25 | alestane | And in the second expansion zone, I think the photon cannon up the cliff can see the extractor location. |
| 21:49.32 | ScytheBlade1 | oh |
| 21:49.34 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, you can kill that |
| 21:49.51 | ScytheBlade1 | hang on a sec |
| 21:50.04 | alestane | Well, I did, and then I started getting reavers and zealots dropped off inside my base. |
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| 21:52.04 | ScytheBlade1 | slow download is slow |
| 21:53.05 | alestane | What are you downloading now? |
| 21:53.12 | ScytheBlade1 | MPQ listfiles |
| 21:55.34 | Cide- | ok, help me out |
| 21:55.51 | Cide- | best way to display what posts are unread to a forum user? |
| 21:55.53 | Cide- | requirements: |
| 21:56.04 | Cide- | 1) the user is logged in, so you can use the database to accomplish this |
| 21:56.17 | Cide- | 2) it can't use sessions because it needs to be tracked between different computers |
| 21:56.24 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: why do you need mpq listfiles? |
| 21:56.28 | Cide- | go |
| 21:56.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: because this MPQ lacks a proper listfile? |
| 21:56.55 | Arrowmaster | how old is that mpq? |
| 21:57.02 | ScytheBlade1 | very |
| 21:58.50 | Cide- | nevermind |
| 21:58.59 | Cide- | stackoverflow had an existing topic on the matter |
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| 22:02.58 | tlund | on google code, how do i add a label to a ticket? |
| 22:03.08 | ScytheBlade1 | uploading... |
| 22:04.14 | *** join/#wowuidev kneeki (n=chatzill@66.45.169.50) |
| 22:05.02 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/SC/zerg9.png (big picture, both in file size and resolution) |
| 22:05.17 | ScytheBlade1 | red line = don't go there |
| 22:05.27 | ScytheBlade1 | red text = initial setup/defenses |
| 22:05.35 | ScytheBlade1 | green text = first priority once your base is safe |
| 22:05.49 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I went with anyway |
| 22:06.06 | kneeki | WTB starcraft at a higher res |
| 22:06.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't we all |
| 22:06.47 | kneeki | Wonder why a patch was never written. D2multires for diablo ii is the shit |
| 22:07.11 | ScytheBlade1 | SC2 is.. a fair bit older and less nice to changes :) |
| 22:07.16 | ScytheBlade1 | s/SC2/SC/ |
| 22:07.17 | kneeki | ah true |
| 22:07.51 | Cruciformer | hi all. Anyone here use / familiar with the chat addon "Prat"? |
| 22:08.06 | nicoli_s | man that still looks pretty nice quality zoomed in |
| 22:08.28 | alestane | That leaves a very nice drop-off area for shuttles that bothers me a bit, although it sounds like you favor a much more "active" base defense, i.e.'leave actual units running around to beat the crap out of anything that tries to attack. |
| 22:08.31 | nicoli_s | im sad the wc3 -> sc total conversion people were working on never got done |
| 22:08.49 | ScytheBlade1 | it does |
| 22:08.57 | ScytheBlade1 | you can plant zergling there without a worry, really |
| 22:09.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I found the shuttle drop off spot, and burrowed zergling closer to the ridge |
| 22:09.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Once they were dropped off, I ambushed them from the north and south at the same time |
| 22:09.41 | Cruciformer | I am having a bit of an issue with ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter ... anyone familiar with it? |
| 22:09.42 | ScytheBlade1 | that line is a bit on the paranoid side |
| 22:10.25 | alestane | Soundslike I should avoid pulling those photon cannons on the rise, though, build a little bit back from the edge. |
| 22:10.39 | ScytheBlade1 | definitely |
| 22:10.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I put -all- of my tech in the top-left |
| 22:10.55 | kneeki | http://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1246524557876.gif <- what's that? |
| 22:11.05 | kneeki | http://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1246525607241.gif <- and that |
| 22:11.23 | ScytheBlade1 | 4chan links. They're bad for your health |
| 22:11.30 | alestane | Martial-arts panty shots? |
| 22:11.31 | kneeki | Dangerous maybe |
| 22:11.33 | Dagmar | I'm just gooing to assume they're NSFW |
| 22:11.34 | kneeki | but those are safe |
| 22:11.50 | Dagmar | WHERE DO YOU WORK? |
| 22:12.01 | kneeki | Why? |
| 22:12.03 | kneeki | lol |
| 22:12.11 | Dagmar | Since when is an animated girl's clothes being electrocuted off "work-safe"? |
| 22:12.21 | Dagmar | Do you work in a bordello or porn shop? |
| 22:12.37 | kneeki | Dagmar: Haha no, but it's quite lenient here |
| 22:12.49 | kneeki | So, i forget what 'safe' is for other people |
| 22:12.52 | kneeki | Apologies |
| 22:12.53 | nevcairiel | just never ever open a 4chan link |
| 22:13.31 | Dagmar | Well, luckily I've discussed GG Allin with the HR girl here, so I doubt it would get me into trouble |
| 22:14.15 | Dagmar | "I could pull up things here that could spread horror and chronic insomnia through the office like something from a Steven King novel." |
| 22:14.16 | Cruciformer | When I install a handler using ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter, even if it returns false and does not modify any of the arguments, I am getting a double message from Prat. Anyone else see this behaviour? |
| 22:14.27 | Shirik | hmm |
| 22:14.36 | Shirik | line 43: // TODO: Make this actually show up |
| 22:14.44 | Shirik | line 44: // TODO: Figure out what that TODO means. |
| 22:14.48 | Dagmar | lol |
| 22:14.49 | Gnarfoz | Cruciformer: don't get me started on Prat and chat filters :> |
| 22:15.16 | Arrowmaster | prat breaks stuff with chat filters |
| 22:15.45 | Cruciformer | Gnarfoz: Its driving me a bit batty. A chat filter is the perfect thing for me to use but if I do it breaks prat. I dont want my mod to break prat for its users. |
| 22:15.47 | Gnarfoz | no, it's the proper way to do it, I'm assured ;) |
| 22:16.05 | KarlKFI | lol Shirik, where's that? |
| 22:16.17 | nevcairiel | I bet he wrote those comments himself |
| 22:16.29 | Gnarfoz | Cruciformer: I think I managed to make the one it conflicted with work after 3.1, not sure if that helps you at all since mine is pretty simple |
| 22:16.51 | Cruciformer | I guess I can do it the old fashioned way and just trap CHAT_MSG_WHISPER |
| 22:17.05 | Gnarfoz | nah, don't ;> |
| 22:17.19 | Cruciformer | Gnarfoz: Mine is pretty simple too. Its essentially "if (msg == "foo") then return true else return false |
| 22:17.33 | Cruciformer | except I dont just return true I also do the work I want to do |
| 22:17.51 | nevcairiel | I would rather break it and apply proper blame when users complain =p |
| 22:18.18 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: except that doesn't get you anywhere |
| 22:18.23 | Dagmar | File a workaround patch that deletes line 43 |
| 22:18.34 | nevcairiel | Every other addon uses the filter API |
| 22:18.39 | Gnarfoz | Cruciformer: one thing to keep in mind is: if Prat's there, every filter is going to get processed twice |
| 22:18.39 | Arrowmaster | Cruciformer: you said double messages? are you printing messages from your filter? |
| 22:18.42 | Cruciformer | so is it considered "best practice" to trap a command to a mod with a filter and not have the message turn up in their windows if you deal with it complete? |
| 22:19.06 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster: No sir I am not |
| 22:19.10 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: thats just fucked up |
| 22:19.15 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: don't tell me |
| 22:20.08 | nevcairiel | good that i've been using my own chat mod since ... for ever i think =P |
| 22:20.13 | Cruciformer | If I have a chat filter in place, and it returns false 9which means show the message, possibly modified), I get a "normal" [Username] whispers: foo |
| 22:20.42 | Cruciformer | as well as a thing from prat waying [W from]: [Username:80]: foo |
| 22:21.09 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 22:21.19 | Gnarfoz | you need to check for the line id |
| 22:21.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah bitch to sylvanaar for his fucked up ways of doing things |
| 22:21.25 | Cruciformer | except that there is an even further bug in prat that even tho it recognised it as a whisper its displaying it in white and not pink, which it does when no filter is in place. |
| 22:21.31 | Gnarfoz | or that, but that's not going to help you anyway |
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| 22:23.23 | Arrowmaster | Cruciformer: you are returning more than just true or false right? |
| 22:23.47 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster: Yes sir. In the false case I do: return false, msg, ... |
| 22:24.33 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: if you want super spoilers, refresh that image. I've added my attack paths/second expansion/etc. |
| 22:24.48 | alestane | Eh, I think I can manage. |
| 22:24.50 | Gnarfoz | you don't even need to return more, if you're not modifying |
| 22:25.43 | ScytheBlade1 | honestly, my problems with that mission amount to (1) too much static defense, sucking my money and (2) not expanding quick enough, as the reavers ate my sunkens |
| 22:25.49 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: not true |
| 22:25.53 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: yes, true. |
| 22:26.13 | Arrowmaster | atleast if you return any you need to return all |
| 22:26.18 | Cruciformer | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/116993 |
| 22:26.19 | Gnarfoz | any? |
| 22:26.22 | nevcairiel | thats true |
| 22:26.44 | nevcairiel | but you can just return true/false |
| 22:26.44 | Gnarfoz | if you return just true or false, you can leave out the rest |
| 22:26.44 | nevcairiel | but the second you return more, you need to return all |
| 22:26.44 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 22:26.58 | Gnarfoz | (which he covered with ..., I should think) |
| 22:27.18 | nevcairiel | depending on the function signature, but it looks hopeful |
| 22:32.21 | Cruciformer | http://unix42.com/badprat.jpg is what I see |
| 22:32.58 | Gnarfoz | looks basically like what I saw |
| 22:33.44 | Cruciformer | ok but I am not doing anything wrong, the error really is with prat and not my code? |
| 22:33.50 | Gnarfoz | but my problem was that my filter was supposed to return different things depending on "is this the first time I see this message or not", which of course being called twice for every message broke totally |
| 22:34.25 | Cruciformer | My filter only gets called once, hence only one printing of "lm=foo" |
| 22:34.29 | Arrowmaster | you would have that problem with or without prat |
| 22:34.38 | Gnarfoz | no... I wouldn't |
| 22:34.42 | Gnarfoz | (or rather, I didn't) |
| 22:35.05 | Arrowmaster | filters by design get run multiple times |
| 22:35.12 | Gnarfoz | Cruciformer: I can only guess. my solution was to track the line id and return the previous result early, if it was the same line id. not sure this applies to your situation at all |
| 22:35.22 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: curious, they don't seem to do that in the default ui... |
| 22:35.43 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: the CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL filter |
| 22:35.45 | Cruciformer | My readingof ChatFrame.lua doesnt indicate they are meant to be called more than once. |
| 22:35.51 | Gnarfoz | CHAT_MSG_AFK/DND |
| 22:35.51 | Arrowmaster | they are |
| 22:36.05 | Gnarfoz | and _WHISPER is also not _CHANNEL |
| 22:36.13 | Gnarfoz | so whatever, I blame Prat anyway |
| 22:36.15 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 22:36.15 | Arrowmaster | because for an addon like WIM to make use of the filters it has to run them too |
| 22:36.37 | Gnarfoz | I wonder why DontBugMe never had problems with WIM or Chatter, then |
| 22:36.38 | Arrowmaster | by design they have to be able to be run multiple times per event |
| 22:36.52 | Arrowmaster | because chatter doesnt use filters |
| 22:36.55 | Gnarfoz | (don't tell me "seems only Prat did it right then") |
| 22:37.06 | Arrowmaster | and i dont know if wim does but it should |
| 22:37.15 | Arrowmaster | no prat doesnt do it right |
| 22:37.15 | Cruciformer | The way I read the orginal code, it only lets you install a filte with the same function once (it checkes for duplicates) and the first filter it encounters that returns true it stops processing and returns |
| 22:37.19 | Gnarfoz | how can the addon work but Chatter not use the filters? :D |
| 22:37.31 | Gnarfoz | it's too hot here for logic ;o |
| 22:37.44 | Arrowmaster | chatter only uses filters for the urlcopy module |
| 22:37.50 | Gnarfoz | Cruciformer: that doesn't mean the filter can't be called multiple times, though |
| 22:37.52 | Arrowmaster | or it did last i looked |
| 22:38.11 | Cruciformer | Gnarfoz: Who else will be calling it? |
| 22:38.32 | Gnarfoz | Cruciformer: whoever else looks at the filter list and implements the filters |
| 22:38.53 | Arrowmaster | something like wim should be calling the filters too |
| 22:39.01 | Cruciformer | Thats no mean trick that is considering: local chatFilters = {}; |
| 22:39.28 | Cruciformer | altho I suppose they can call GetEventFilters |
| 22:39.33 | Arrowmaster | Cruciformer: theres an iter function in the default ui |
| 22:39.52 | Arrowmaster | thats there specificly for others to get the filters so they can call them |
| 22:39.55 | Gnarfoz | Cruciformer: function ChatFrame_GetMessageEventFilters (event) |
| 22:39.57 | Cruciformer | yeah I rememberd that right after I pasted :) |
| 22:40.10 | Gnarfoz | meh, you already got to that while I was looking it up |
| 22:40.34 | Arrowmaster | this is why filters should only be used for filtering and never for reacting to events like a lot of newbies tend to try |
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| 22:41.04 | Cruciformer | of course I really can make this whole problem go away if I simply trap CHAT_MSG_WHISPER and look for my commands there |
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| 22:41.13 | Cruciformer | but that doesn't "feel" right. |
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| 22:42.11 | Arrowmaster | you should bitch to sylvanaar and see if he knows anything |
| 22:42.22 | Cruciformer | yeah I'll file a bug. |
| 22:43.04 | Cruciformer | the one added benefit of doing it in a normal CHAT_MSG_WHISPER handler and not a filter is that the user actually does see who attempted to whisper them a command (if for some reason the command cant be processed) |
| 22:43.36 | Arrowmaster | wait what? |
| 22:43.43 | Cruciformer | which gives the recipient the opportunity to take remedial action. |
| 22:43.48 | Arrowmaster | now i need to find your pastey |
| 22:44.05 | Cruciformer | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/116993 |
| 22:44.34 | Arrowmaster | you are doing exactly what i talked about |
| 22:44.58 | Arrowmaster | your filter is not designed to be run multiple times |
| 22:45.40 | Arrowmaster | remove the handle_cmd and the print from your filter and do that in an event handler instead |
| 22:46.15 | Arrowmaster | only use filters for filtering and not for any kind of reaction |
| 22:46.19 | Kaelten | anyone lurking around playing wow on 10.4? |
| 22:46.25 | Cruciformer | in which case I will have to return false, lm |
| 22:46.38 | Arrowmaster | wait what? |
| 22:46.40 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 22:46.52 | Cruciformer | if I return true it will be filterd, and not processed, correct? |
| 22:47.00 | Arrowmaster | filters do not effect events at all |
| 22:47.28 | Arrowmaster | filters only filter the display in the chatframe |
| 22:47.31 | Arrowmaster | nothing else |
| 22:47.38 | nevcairiel | If you return true, it'll not be displayed .. unless prat does something else there |
| 22:47.39 | Arrowmaster | and they should never be used for anything else |
| 22:47.47 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: sorry, still at 3.1.3 ;p |
| 22:47.59 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz: huh? |
| 22:48.03 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:48.08 | Kaelten | I'm talking about mac os version # |
| 22:48.10 | Kaelten | :PO |
| 22:48.19 | nevcairiel | I'm sure he knew that ;) |
| 22:48.26 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
| 22:48.42 | Cruciformer | then this confuses me: filter: True if the message should be hidden; false if the message should be displayed (boolean) |
| 22:48.50 | Kaelten | :( |
| 22:49.09 | Kaelten | It'd just be nice if I could have some confirmation that my stuff is working |
| 22:49.37 | nevcairiel | Cruciformer: why confuse? Thats how it works, yea |
| 22:50.14 | Cruciformer | ah ok now that I see it in action it is starting to make sense. |
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| 22:52.21 | Cruciformer | thanks Arrowmaster you were correct I was using the filter for the wrong thing. |
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| 22:54.01 | Cruciformer | adds Arrowmaster to credits.txt :) |
| 22:56.17 | Cralor` | stumped by OnClick :( http://pastey.net/116994 |
| 22:57.10 | cog|work | you set the script before the function existed |
| 22:57.27 | Cruciformer | Cralor`: put the button_OnClick above the code where you register the messge becyase at the time you register the message the function hasnt been defined yet and evaluates to nil |
| 22:57.47 | Cruciformer | cog types more succinctly than I |
| 22:58.17 | Kraps | man, the blues are being crazy snarky/sarcastic and people are all ZARHYM SAID <something ludicrous> THIS IS PROOF WOW IS DYING/BLIZZ FAVORS ALLI/HORDE/THEY DONT CARE/ACTIVISION IS RUNNUNG WOW |
| 22:58.32 | cog|work | also, you probably shouldn't be using a global function for that. either define the function anonymously or make it local |
| 22:58.53 | cog|work | anonymously would be button:SetScript("OnClick", function() ....... end ) |
| 22:59.16 | ScytheBlade1 | okay, this can't be legal at first glance |
| 22:59.17 | ScytheBlade1 | http://blogs.msdn.com/danielfe/archive/2009/07/02/tweetcraft-a-world-of-warcraft-twitter-client.aspx |
| 22:59.30 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: it reloads ui whenever you want to update |
| 22:59.40 | ScytheBlade1 | oh never mind |
| 22:59.44 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, I just saw that in the FAQ |
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| 23:02.16 | Tem | someone help me out here |
| 23:02.23 | Tem | I recognize this error page |
| 23:02.29 | Tem | but I can't remember where I've seen it |
| 23:02.29 | Tem | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-U5XfnqdepFFIdldJ/details/128/?s=12759&e=12921#tab-dmgspell |
| 23:02.41 | End | django |
| 23:02.47 | Tem | I'm thinking it might be the default error page of django |
| 23:02.52 | Tem | thanks, End =P |
| 23:02.52 | End | it is |
| 23:02.57 | End | np :P |
| 23:03.10 | End | I'm not really surprised they're running django though |
| 23:03.16 | End | they already admitted they were using python |
| 23:03.24 | Tem | I had no idea |
| 23:03.43 | Dagmar | Weirdly "Actor ID out of bounds" returns zero hits in Google |
| 23:04.16 | Tem | the message itself is probably their own message |
| 23:04.34 | Dagmar | That would be a firs then. |
| 23:04.39 | End | it's the error thrown by their code /shrug |
| 23:04.45 | Dagmar | Someone writing a custom webapp that gives concise error messages upon failure. |
| 23:05.17 | End | if they set DEBUG = True, you'd have a lot of debugging information too :P |
| 23:05.24 | Dagmar | Probably. |
| 23:05.29 | Tem | nod |
| 23:05.37 | Dagmar | I suppose I'm just too used to seeing a screenful of ASPX crap roll out of servers |
| 23:05.50 | Tem | ugh |
| 23:06.00 | Tem | Dagmar, I have to deal with ASP.NET at work |
| 23:06.03 | Tem | I |
| 23:06.10 | Tem | _Hate_ |
| 23:06.11 | Tem | it |
| 23:06.19 | NightHawkTheSane | everybody hates asp.net |
| 23:06.28 | Tem | (that's "Hate" with a capital H for extra loathing) |
| 23:06.45 | NightHawkTheSane | (mine's hate with a lower case h for extra laziness :p) |
| 23:07.01 | Tem | I also hate websites that have phpbb forums |
| 23:07.06 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:07.12 | Shirik | I just wrote this epic C# code |
| 23:07.12 | Tem | because it's like going to a seperate site |
| 23:07.15 | Tem | I _hate_ that |
| 23:07.16 | Shirik | but there's a compiler error in it |
| 23:07.19 | Shirik | and I don't see why |
| 23:07.24 | Tem | Shirik, your problem is writing in C# |
| 23:07.25 | Dagmar | That's a shame because phpBB is probably too easy for most people to bother with finding other programs |
| 23:07.33 | Shirik | Tem: It's more like SQL |
| 23:07.33 | Shirik | not C# |
| 23:07.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem: thats the case with a lot of forums, though |
| 23:07.51 | cog|work | Tem: more like you hate people who don't customize their phpbb installation to look like the rest of their site |
| 23:07.53 | Tem | NHTS, more shit doesn't make shit more appealing to me |
| 23:07.54 | cog|work | :P |
| 23:08.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem: i'm just saying that's not strictly a fault of phpbb, more of what cog|work said :P |
| 23:08.13 | Dagmar | ...and that they didn't bother to unify the user database with one of th external auth modules |
| 23:08.20 | Dagmar | I'm about to tackle that on the site I just set up for my guild |
| 23:08.31 | Tem | cog|work, just making it look alike isn't enough imo |
| 23:08.40 | Tem | Dagmar hit a big point there |
| 23:08.44 | Dagmar | Just the site itself and the google apps tie-in email account is too passwords. |
| 23:08.45 | Tem | the user thing is annoying |
| 23:08.48 | Dagmar | s/too/two/;l |
| 23:08.56 | Dagmar | If I set up a wiki they'll have to keep track of three. Screw that |
| 23:09.11 | Tem | yeah, major bleh |
| 23:09.16 | Dagmar | I'll make the bloody thing SSO if I have to hack up a lightweight LDAP service myself |
| 23:09.53 | Tem | cog|work, take http://forums.worldoflogs.com/ for example |
| 23:10.03 | Tem | it's a completely seperate site from worldoflogs.com |
| 23:10.13 | Dagmar | Not likely |
| 23:10.17 | Dagmar | It's probably just a CNAME |
| 23:10.21 | Tem | once you go there, there's no links back to the original |
| 23:10.28 | Tem | the look is completely different |
| 23:10.31 | Tem | all the navigation changes |
| 23:10.55 | Tem | seperate sign on |
| 23:11.01 | Dagmar | That would likely be because "skinning" phpBB is accomplshed generally by downloading a theme tarball and just chucking it into phpBB |
| 23:11.52 | Tem | aside from the technical aspects of them being hosted on the same site, they're two seperate places |
| 23:14.09 | Dagmar | There's probably all of three mouse-clicks involved to making it appear as www.worldoflogs.com/forums, but it's their choice |
| 23:14.23 | Tem | the url is irrelevant imo |
| 23:14.38 | Tem | I should never be able to navigate to a page on your web page that I can't leave without using my back button |
| 23:14.57 | Tem | no click should be "one way" unless it's directly leaving your site |
| 23:15.43 | Tem | And speaking of web annoyances, websites that redirect me in such a way as to break my back button should die in a fire |
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| 23:16.14 | Cruciformer | tem: amen |
| 23:17.12 | Dagmar | You know how you fix that? |
| 23:17.28 | Dagmar | You tell reload-every to do it's thing there every minute and just leave it running for weeks |
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| 23:23.00 | Cruciformer | Dagmar: the worst offenders are people who dont care about bandwidth. Also I have limited bandwidth a month so that would just cost ME money :( |
| 23:23.44 | alestane | ScytheBlade1: Got it done. Not trying mission 10 tonight, company coming over. |
| 23:24.28 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: good to hear |
| 23:24.36 | Nafe | Cruciformer: what bothers me is when I tell a website/IT/etc. admin about gzip compression for content, and they say it's not important |
| 23:24.39 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: zerg 10 is much, much easier |
| 23:25.10 | Shirik | Oh C#, how I loathe and love you |
| 23:25.10 | Cruciformer | Nafe: *sigh* no cure for ignorance is there? |
| 23:25.25 | Shirik | error CS1937: The name 'pair' is not in scope on the left side of 'equals'. Consider swapping the expressions on either side of 'equals'. |
| 23:25.34 | Cruciformer | actually education is a cure for ignorance, tehrs no cure for stupid :) |
| 23:25.38 | Shirik | What is essentially "foo == bar" and it's telling me to change it to "bar == foo" |
| 23:25.43 | Dagmar | Nafe: It would be because they're not paying per-byte charges |
| 23:25.45 | Shirik | and what's even worse, it's correct in telling me to do that |
| 23:26.17 | Cruciformer | Shirik: which begs the question why it doesnt just do it for you :) |
| 23:26.31 | alestane | ScytheBlade1: The early expansion was really critical, but it did turn out to be important to build the army up a little more. When I took the central Nexus, It was with 2 squads of zerglings, 1 of Hydras, 1 of Mutas and 4 ultralisks. |
| 23:26.40 | alestane | I hate PsiStorm. |
| 23:26.43 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 23:26.44 | Shirik | that would be like saying "compiler tells you to add semicolon --> add semicolon automatically" |
| 23:26.46 | ScytheBlade1 | psistorm is PAINFUL |
| 23:26.49 | Shirik | I think that's bad |
| 23:27.06 | ScytheBlade1 | psistorm and reavers is why I didn't go ground on that mission |
| 23:27.10 | Cruciformer | I guess. |
| 23:27.14 | ScytheBlade1 | mutalisks move faster, guardians can stay out of range |
| 23:27.28 | ScytheBlade1 | ground units just sit there and die, for the most part |
| 23:27.35 | Nafe | Dagmar: it still matters in the perspective of the enduser. Take a poorly designed 100+ kb HTML frontpage, and that's a long time to load... especially for those that have a slow connection |
| 23:27.37 | alestane | Yes, reavers can devastate a squad of zerglings in about 2 shots. Having some guardians around the bases to beat them off was also key. |
| 23:27.44 | ScytheBlade1 | definitely |
| 23:27.54 | Dagmar | Nafe: Oh I know it |
| 23:27.58 | ScytheBlade1 | guardians is the easy, effective counter to reavers |
| 23:28.31 | Cruciformer | well folks it time to go raid and put on my guild leader hat and listen to people whine for a while |
| 23:28.35 | Nafe | Dagmar: plus I've told places that actually do pay per bandwidth. I guess they just don't like being given a suggestion from someone lower in the corporate hierarchy |
| 23:29.16 | Cruciformer | thanks for the help earlier guys/gals/other people of indeterminate gender |
| 23:29.33 | alestane | Hydras are pretty good against carriers as well, just have to remember to tell them to kill the carrier and ignore the interceptors, because nine times out of ten that's what they'll focus on automatically. |
| 23:29.41 | Nafe | Shirik: what's the line in question, if I may ask? |
| 23:30.11 | ScytheBlade1 | yup. scourge can be great, for usually there are other units that can fill that role more effectively |
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| 23:38.44 | Nafe | Question for anyone who may know: how can I "attach" a frame to the cursor (set frame's center to cursor's center, then Frame:StartMoving), so when the player next clicks, it stops moving (Frame:StopMovingOrSizing)? |
| 23:38.50 | Nafe | Pastebin of what I tried: http://pastebin.com/d6067b0b |
| 23:39.32 | Nafe | It attaches the frame to the cursor just fine, but then the game doesn't seem to register that a frame is "under" the cursor when doing clicks or anything |
| 23:39.51 | Nafe | it just sends the clicks right into the 3d envirnment (even if I move the cursor over another frame) |
| 23:40.09 | bleeter | bwhahaha http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/02/twitter_pussy/ |
| 23:40.25 | bleeter | pity I can't create a hunter called MrsSlocombe |
| 23:40.39 | bleeter | hmm maybe I could, would just need to be.. not on an RP realm |
| 23:42.37 | Nafe | I don't know what I'm missing. For the addon release, I simply settled for not calling Frame:StartMoving, and let the user drag the frame after it appear |
| 23:44.32 | alestane | My guess is that a frame which is moving can't receive mouse events. |
| 23:45.03 | alestane | You could maybe override-bind "BUTTON1" to click on something that will put the frame down. |
| 23:45.28 | Nafe | hmm that's an idea |
| 23:46.07 | alestane | Since while you're dragging a frame, I think the only thing mouse clicks will do is trigger the OnReceivedDrag of whatever other frame you're over. |
| 23:47.18 | Nafe | if the user picks up the frame without me setting Frame:StartMoving() automatically (i.e. OnMouseDown is triggered), then OnMouseUp works just fine |
| 23:47.53 | Nafe | but when I call Frame:StartMoving(), neither of OnMouseDown nor OnMouseUp work |
| 23:48.20 | Nafe | re: the bind idea, I can't change the binds during combat, right? |
| 23:48.44 | alestane | Depends how you do it, and what it is. |
| 23:49.01 | alestane | It certainly becomes more complicated to do it that way, but possible. |
| 23:49.50 | alestane | Sec, I need to try something. |
| 23:50.39 | Nafe | according to WoWwiki: "SetBindingClick doesn't appears to work if your character is in combat. (2.0.1)" Any suggestion as to what API I would use? |
| 23:51.08 | nevcairiel | Of course it works |
| 23:51.08 | Dagmar | Nothing. |
| 23:51.15 | nevcairiel | You just can't re-assign bindings in combat |
| 23:51.15 | alestane | It gets more complicated then just "what API"...I need to test something. |
| 23:51.19 | nevcairiel | not with any API |
| 23:51.25 | alestane | nevcairiel: Not true. |
| 23:51.33 | nevcairiel | with headers, you can =P |
| 23:51.36 | Dagmar | If they disabled something during combat, there's little point in trying to get around it |
| 23:51.48 | Dagmar | ...and good reason *not* to try. |
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| 23:53.30 | Tem | Shirik, wtf |
| 23:53.45 | Tem | how can something NOT be in scope on one side of ==? |
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| 23:55.44 | alestane | !api Moving |
| 23:55.45 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'Moving': Frame:StartMoving, Frame:StopMovingOrSizing |
| 23:56.20 | Tem | alestane, IsMoving, alestane |
| 23:56.29 | Tem | I thought |
| 23:56.31 | Tem | anyway |
| 23:56.37 | alestane | That's what I was hoping for. |
| 23:57.10 | Cairenn | mmmmmm, nummy! Bacardi Breezer - Stawberry Daiquiri |
| 23:58.54 | alestane | Nafe: Can't get this straight in my head right now,especially without being sure what else this thing you're dragging is But it should be possible and legitimate, just a question of how crazy you're willing to get. |
