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| 01:01.11 | AnduinLothar | hmmm, earthquake? |
| 01:01.21 | ckknight | rumbles for good measure |
| 01:01.31 | Adys | makes a mom joke |
| 01:01.39 | ckknight | harsh, Adys |
| 01:01.40 | ckknight | harsh. |
| 01:01.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: poke prod, make a "Minion Installer" project in the tracker |
| 01:01.57 | AnduinLothar | she lives 50mi away, she must be REALLY fat |
| 01:02.22 | ckknight | ~hubris |
| 01:02.22 | purl | HUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. |
| 01:02.45 | Adys | I managed to fix the whole random-program-opening-as-browser thing |
| 01:03.07 | Adys | it turns out /usr/bin/www-browser, x-www-browser, and sensible-browser were all sorts of fucked up |
| 01:03.41 | Adys | I removed this piece of crap perl script, made all 3 a symlink to each other and /usr/bin/sensible-browser to /usr/bin/google-chrome |
| 01:03.58 | AnduinLothar | yup. big earthquake. |
| 01:04.03 | AnduinLothar | off shore a big |
| 01:04.07 | AnduinLothar | bit |
| 01:04.18 | Adys | thats your mom taking a bath, etc |
| 01:04.25 | Arrowmaster | Adys: what distro? |
| 01:04.34 | Adys | ubuntu, on karmic upgrade and kde switch |
| 01:04.41 | Arrowmaster | .... |
| 01:05.02 | Adys | why the dots? |
| 01:05.06 | AnduinLothar | ok notBIG but sizable |
| 01:05.13 | AnduinLothar | 4.2 |
| 01:05.32 | Arrowmaster | debian based systems use update-alternatives to manage stuff like that |
| 01:05.32 | Adys | [04:05:06] <+AnduinLothar> ok notBIG but sizable |
| 01:05.33 | Adys | [04:05:13] <+AnduinLothar> 4.2 |
| 01:05.39 | Adys | I am KEEPING that. |
| 01:05.53 | AnduinLothar | why? |
| 01:05.58 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:05.59 | ckknight | penis. |
| 01:06.10 | AnduinLothar | oh... |
| 01:06.13 | Arrowmaster | Adys: you should have just used update-alternatives to fix it |
| 01:06.30 | Adys | I tried to |
| 01:06.33 | Adys | it was just fubar |
| 01:07.13 | Adys | and I really dont need this crap, I know what symlink to update if I ever change default browser |
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| 01:07.49 | AnduinLothar | San Diego, CA - 86 km (53 miles) W |
| 01:08.15 | Arrowmaster | http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-customizing.en.html#s-diverse |
| 01:08.29 | Arrowmaster | unless ubuntu has fucked everything up it should work the same way |
| 01:09.01 | Arrowmaster | but if you actually removed the perl scripts that handle it then you just totally hosed your system |
| 01:09.15 | kd3 | the quake in question: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/Quakes/ci14477000.php |
| 01:09.22 | Adys | Arrowmaster: Why? |
| 01:09.34 | Adys | the perl script acts as a fake symlink |
| 01:09.44 | Adys | I just replaced it by a real symlink |
| 01:09.55 | Arrowmaster | huh wait |
| 01:10.14 | Arrowmaster | it was an actual perl script for the file and not a script managing it? |
| 01:10.37 | Adys | eh? |
| 01:10.38 | Arrowmaster | now i have to turn on my debian box and hope its still working |
| 01:10.38 | Adys | yes |
| 01:10.40 | Adys | http://pastebin.com/d6bd554e8 |
| 01:11.29 | Arrowmaster | where did /root/sensible-browser come from originally? |
| 01:11.33 | Adys | usr bin |
| 01:14.14 | Arrowmaster | what was x-www-browser |
| 01:15.04 | Arrowmaster | i dont have it since my box doesnt have a gui |
| 01:15.11 | Adys | a garbled executable |
| 01:15.15 | Arrowmaster | but i have www-browser and its just a system link |
| 01:15.18 | Adys | its supposed to be a symlink |
| 01:16.47 | Arrowmaster | right its supposed to be a symlink into /etc/alternatives/ which has another symlink to the real browser |
| 01:17.31 | Adys | yeah its bad I removed it |
| 01:19.14 | Arrowmaster | you should fix x-www-browser and www-browser to be symlinks to their /etc/alternatives/ counterparts and use update-alternatives to fix those symlinks, you can do whatever you want with sensible-browser i guess |
| 01:19.46 | Adys | update-alternatives is supposed to make my life easier |
| 01:19.49 | Adys | not force me to find workarounds |
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| 01:19.59 | Adys | I just symlinked all this stuff, I dont need priorities and what other shit.. |
| 01:19.59 | bleeter | is it my imagination, or is myra turngaarde getting higher off the ground each patch?? |
| 01:20.25 | Arrowmaster | Adys: meh priorities is for it to figure out default stuff |
| 01:20.29 | bleeter | (IF vendor circling between AH and bank) |
| 01:20.41 | Arrowmaster | i just run it and pick the new program it should use |
| 01:22.12 | bleeter | anyone? or are you all horde scum! :P |
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| 01:22.55 | bleeter | maybe Iriel knows... ;) |
| 01:23.11 | Iriel | I knowa nothing |
| 01:23.20 | AnduinLothar | good job Iriel |
| 01:23.29 | bleeter | Iriel: is it my imagination, or is myra tyrngaarde getting higher off the ground each patch? I DEMAND ANSWERS! :P |
| 01:23.40 | bleeter | AnduinLothar: it's clearly a lie, 'coz he knows he knows nothing ;) |
| 01:24.28 | AnduinLothar | bleeter: all in your head. he just SAID he knows nothing, if he knew he knew nothing he's have said so! |
| 01:24.33 | Iriel | I have no idea 8-) |
| 01:24.37 | Iriel | I really DO know nothing |
| 01:24.45 | Iriel | (I was channeling Manuel, tho, earlier) |
| 01:24.46 | bleeter | I better warn you all, I've just had to deal with #alsa, so I'm NOT in a good mood :P |
| 01:25.06 | bleeter | Iriel: you speaka english good, you learn it from a buuk |
| 01:28.48 | Iriel | Are you orrily men? |
| 01:29.32 | bleeter | *orally |
| 01:30.39 | bleeter | Iriel: hang on.. I *DO* remember ... you won it on a horse!!! |
| 01:47.27 | myrkraverk | bleeter, any channels where linux people come en masse are difficult |
| 01:47.36 | myrkraverk | (imho, ##c++ is horrible) |
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| 01:49.30 | bleeter | myrkraverk: doesn't help that, to an ex amiga/atari ST musician, alsa is a steaming pile of doodoo ;) |
| 01:49.50 | myrkraverk | bleeter, heh |
| 01:50.13 | myrkraverk | bleeter, I've never done anything like that |
| 01:50.55 | myrkraverk | wtf, I think I'm taking a backup of my backup ;/ |
| 01:51.44 | myrkraverk | I'm just glad I'm not dealing with linux these days |
| 01:52.11 | bleeter | every OS sucks |
| 01:52.51 | myrkraverk | true |
| 01:53.11 | myrkraverk | to me, linux just sucks more and more |
| 01:53.47 | myrkraverk | mostly becouse of what jwz termed cadt: cascade of attention deficit teenagers (talking about developers) |
| 01:56.55 | ScytheBlade1 | huh? |
| 01:56.57 | ScytheBlade1 | http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/topstocks/archive/2009/06/19/pizza-hut-cuts-the-quot-pizza-quot.aspx |
| 01:59.56 | AnduinLothar | The Hut |
| 02:02.18 | myrkraverk | jabba the hut? |
| 02:02.45 | AnduinLothar | Pizz The Hut |
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| 02:22.02 | Shirik | myrkraverk: You're horrible |
| 02:22.07 | Shirik | ##c++ is fun |
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| 02:28.54 | Aqua | C++ is easy |
| 02:32.36 | kd3 | http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/Taking_Microsoft_to_Task_Over_IE8__Myths_ |
| 02:35.16 | Aqua | anyone have a good example of how to create interface options just purely with lua (like no ace, etc) |
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| 02:39.22 | Ersan | anyone interested in helping make a WMO/WWS/etc. + WoWProgress/guildox/etc. site? |
| 02:39.41 | Ersan | kind of don't want to do all of it by myself |
| 02:40.54 | widgertick | kd3: nice |
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| 02:59.25 | ScytheBlade1 | that chart made me laugh |
| 03:00.24 | Aqua | local button = CreateFrame("CheckButton", "TestButton", myaddon_Options, "OptionsCheckButtonTemplate"); |
| 03:00.32 | Aqua | what is wrong with that line ? |
| 03:01.23 | Aqua | its tossing me error after error and its getting me a little upset |
| 03:01.23 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the error? |
| 03:01.25 | Aqua | thats my code, the errorr is: Usage |
| 03:01.46 | ScytheBlade1 | That's not a very detailed error |
| 03:01.53 | kd3 | then you're not calling it properly. www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame |
| 03:02.38 | kd3 | ah, but it looks like you are... |
| 03:02.40 | kd3 | ponders |
| 03:02.52 | Aqua | i don't want to go spamming the channel with the entire error |
| 03:03.03 | kd3 | http://wowuidev.pastey.net |
| 03:03.46 | Aqua | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/116326 |
| 03:03.50 | Aqua | thats my code, the error is below |
| 03:04.08 | Aqua | ignore my .okay and .cancel, i'm not done yet |
| 03:04.23 | widgertick | Wjat |
| 03:04.29 | widgertick | What's "Cloak_Options" set to? |
| 03:04.33 | Torhal | Where is Cloak_Options defined? |
| 03:04.37 | widgertick | Sorry, right hand offset by one error? :P |
| 03:04.38 | Torhal | Bwah! |
| 03:04.41 | widgertick | WIN! |
| 03:05.09 | Aqua | i created Cloak_Options with local main_panel = .. |
| 03:05.29 | Aqua | is thats where i'm having problems, because i'm trying to make a button on a dynamic created frame (that i did incorrectly) |
| 03:06.20 | Aqua | i'm guessing i don't understand what i'm doing is probably it |
| 03:06.44 | ScytheBlade1 | lua frames are bad for you! |
| 03:06.45 | widgertick | You either need to use the local reference you created, main_panel or put the frame name in quotes. |
| 03:06.47 | ScytheBlade1 | hides |
| 03:07.16 | widgertick | Err, wait |
| 03:07.31 | widgertick | sighs |
| 03:07.52 | Aqua | i'm probably doing this all wrong and should just quit, but i dont' want too |
| 03:07.57 | ScytheBlade1 | (this is why lua frames are bad for you!) |
| 03:08.14 | Aqua | I dislike xml, thats why i was trying to do it purely in lua |
| 03:08.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm mostly trolling, ignore me |
| 03:08.23 | Dagmar | You're a masochist |
| 03:08.28 | ScytheBlade1 | That too |
| 03:09.28 | Legorol | A sad day. After 4 and a half years of playing WoW, I have finally given up hope that people will behave nicely. |
| 03:09.40 | Dagmar | It took you that long? |
| 03:09.48 | bleeter | Legorol: scre you buddy! |
| 03:09.51 | bleeter | *screw |
| 03:09.53 | bleeter | damnit |
| 03:09.56 | Legorol | The final realisation was when a DK decided to spec On A Pale Horse so that he is not beaten by paladins with Crusader's Aura to mining veins. |
| 03:09.58 | Dagmar | Did you disable the Trade channel what, two days after you started playing? |
| 03:10.11 | bleeter | hahahaha that's nice, Legorol :) |
| 03:10.30 | Legorol | I had to hold my head in my hands |
| 03:10.42 | Legorol | I don't know which is worse, the rude ninja-miners or the desperate DK |
| 03:10.59 | AnduinLothar | NINJA MINERS! |
| 03:11.14 | Legorol | yeah they are like ninja turtles, but they are not green and they go for your ore |
| 03:11.36 | AnduinLothar | better than Pirate Miners |
| 03:11.41 | Legorol | true |
| 03:11.47 | AnduinLothar | ARRR YUR ORE ME MINE! |
| 03:11.59 | bleeter | PIECES OF EIGHT ARRR |
| 03:12.05 | AnduinLothar | s/ME/BE |
| 03:12.11 | Legorol | So, does anyone have any other amusing stories that make you lose hope and faith in humanity? Or at least the portion playing WoW |
| 03:12.22 | bleeter | AnduinLothar: you have a good pirate name, btw.. AnduinLothYARRR |
| 03:14.20 | AnduinLothar | wow players are human? |
| 03:14.46 | AnduinLothar | i thought we sold our soul already? |
| 03:15.10 | Dagmar | Any relation to Lothar of the Hill People? |
| 03:15.30 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 03:15.43 | Dagmar | Probably just as well, since he's a bit of a savage |
| 03:21.25 | Legorol | So what was everyone's first moment when they lost their innocence and realised WoW players tend to be ungrateful tards? |
| 03:22.25 | Dagmar | About three days into Open Beta. |
| 03:22.32 | Arrowmaster | it is so unbelieveably hot right now and its 11pm |
| 03:23.06 | Arrowmaster | http://www.thefuckingweather.com/?zipcode=45309 |
| 03:23.30 | Arrowmaster | "Not even PAM can make me not stick to this seat" |
| 03:23.31 | Arrowmaster | so true |
| 03:23.34 | Dagmar | QQ more. http://www.thefuckingweather.com/?zipcode=37209 |
| 03:24.47 | Dagmar | Just you wait until August when it's 89F at 11pm and 80% humidity. |
| 03:25.02 | Arrowmaster | do you have AC |
| 03:25.05 | Dagmar | You'll be thinking that digging yourself a nice basement isn't such a bad idea. |
| 03:25.24 | Arrowmaster | i have a basement |
| 03:25.24 | Dagmar | I've got about ten tons of AC here. |
| 03:25.28 | Arrowmaster | its hot down there |
| 03:25.31 | Arrowmaster | i dont have AC |
| 03:25.49 | Dagmar | Thankfully, these temperatures are tolerable with the air conditioning my vehicle has. |
| 03:26.03 | Arrowmaster | i never use the AC in my car |
| 03:26.09 | Dagmar | My scooter has no AC. |
| 03:26.22 | Dagmar | My car, "slightly". It doesn't seem to work for crap before I get to the office. |
| 03:26.37 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Heh. Interesting. I'm from Hamilton. |
| 03:26.50 | Arrowmaster | if i used the AC in my car i would get used to it and it would waste gas |
| 03:27.31 | Dagmar | There's also the matter of on the scooter you're too busy keeping a gimlet eye on every single other vehicle on the road in case they decide they'd like to be in the lane you're in. |
| 03:27.35 | Dagmar | Where you are currently. |
| 03:27.51 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: i worked at and competed at a national archery competition in hamilton a few years ago |
| 03:28.18 | Torhal | Dagmar: Louisville. |
| 03:28.32 | Torhal | I had no idea there was anything archery-related in Hamilton. Hrm |
| 03:28.52 | Dagmar | Yeah summer and early fall in this part of the US is rather dogbreath most of the time |
| 03:30.20 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: yeah theres a youth club there and it was a youth competition, that particular one rotates between 4 regions of the country every year |
| 03:30.35 | Arrowmaster | and yeah it was hot there too |
| 03:31.18 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: it was held at the old voice of america field where all the radio towers used to be until they took them down |
| 03:31.34 | Aqua | Torhal, your in Louisville? I'm in Evansville to the west of you |
| 03:32.14 | Ersan | hey guys does the armory have any sort of backend or api or rss feeds or anything? |
| 03:32.35 | Aqua | its just generates XML files on fly Ersan |
| 03:32.46 | Ersan | mmk |
| 03:33.10 | bleeter | if you hit it too much, though, your IP will prolly get blocked.. at a guess |
| 03:33.30 | Legorol | there's a special link which spews raw XML for your processing pleasure |
| 03:33.32 | Legorol | i forget what it is |
| 03:34.06 | Aqua | i imagine googling for 10 seconds will probably reveal it |
| 03:34.26 | Arrowmaster | bleeter: depends, i queryed every single item tooltip non stop and didnt get banned |
| 03:34.43 | kd3 | wtfs at "ubunchu!" |
| 03:34.45 | kd3 | http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-06-19/appleseed-ubunchu-walking-butterfly-posted-on-iphone |
| 03:35.19 | Ersan | there is Legorol? |
| 03:35.23 | Ersan | any idea where i might find that |
| 03:35.25 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: I suspect if you queried every single item, toon, guild, realm etc., you'd get smacked around a bit :P |
| 03:35.40 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: sticking to items is prolly safer-ish :) |
| 03:35.40 | Aqua | only thing i've ever done with armory involved scraping |
| 03:35.56 | Ersan | am trying to make a site like guildox or wowprogress |
| 03:36.05 | Ersan | can balance load across alot of ip's if its an issue |
| 03:36.09 | Arrowmaster | if you use a firefox 2+ useragent when you query you will get xml |
| 03:37.59 | Dagmar | Ersan: That doesn't "balance" the load. It just hides that one person is pounding the server. |
| 03:38.16 | Dagmar | You just need to rate-limit the queries |
| 03:38.22 | Ersan | aha so you do |
| 03:38.44 | Dagmar | It might take four days to walk the table, but if you do it slow enough it won't drive the server mad |
| 03:38.49 | Ersan | yeah hide the fact that i'm pummeling the server /shrug |
| 03:39.56 | Dagmar | Oh |
| 03:40.26 | Arrowmaster | kd3: isnt appleseed on bluray now? |
| 03:40.36 | kd3 | that's not what I was wtfing at |
| 03:40.42 | kd3 | read the second paragraph of the linked article |
| 03:41.23 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 03:41.38 | Arrowmaster | do want |
| 03:43.04 | Dagmar | Meh. What good is anime where everyone keeps their clothes on |
| 03:43.27 | ScytheBlade1 | s/where everyone keeps their clothes on// |
| 03:43.30 | ScytheBlade1 | ducks and afks |
| 03:43.59 | Dagmar | Those tentacles are never convincing in the live-action stuff, but it could be a budgeting problem |
| 03:44.02 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: go read the Berserk manga |
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| 03:46.33 | Dagmar | Excel Saga is about all I can take |
| 03:46.48 | Arrowmaster | manga or anime? |
| 03:46.55 | Dagmar | anime |
| 03:47.08 | Arrowmaster | i have seen 2 eps of the anime and i cant bring myself to watch anymore |
| 03:47.09 | Dagmar | STill not sure if it's a dog or a cat |
| 03:47.32 | Dagmar | They broke one of their voice actresses. :) |
| 03:47.36 | Dagmar | Guess which one. =) |
| 03:47.42 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
| 03:48.09 | Dagmar | Youdon'tremembertheexcitablegirlwhotalkslikethisallthetime? |
| 03:48.16 | Dagmar | x4 |
| 03:48.22 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:48.31 | Dagmar | You probably repressed it |
| 03:49.31 | Arrowmaster | lets see theres kodomo no jikan which managed to ensure it will never be licensed for a US release within the first 3 seconds of the first epsoid of the anime series even with the censoring |
| 03:49.58 | Arrowmaster | no, do not go googling, you dont want to know |
| 03:51.45 | Dagmar | Wikipedia told me enough |
| 03:52.01 | Dagmar | I prefer consenting, of age, tentacle victims. |
| 03:52.27 | Dagmar | ...although frankly it's not the tentacles so much as the other completely insane non-H stuff they come up with |
| 03:55.00 | Arrowmaster | as much as i would love to continue this conversation and make everybody else in the channel think we are crazy, i just got done setting up to play on my xbox360 |
| 03:55.06 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 04:00.58 | AnduinLothar | should play some 360 too |
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| 04:03.28 | AnduinLothar | and guess who's 360 just RRoD'ed |
| 04:07.59 | kd3 | lol |
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| 04:48.05 | AnduinLothar | mmm, well at least the xbox tech support phone line wasn't too painful |
| 04:48.09 | AnduinLothar | and open late |
| 04:51.35 | NeoTron | oh hey there green proto drake |
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| 05:05.53 | Aqua | Anyone know a good place to get help with video encoding? |
| 05:06.07 | Aqua | just as a general reference? |
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| 05:06.58 | Gnarfoz | Aqua: I'd say doom9, but it has loads of outdated info. ;) |
| 05:07.10 | Shirik | I'll show you a doom |
| 05:07.17 | Gnarfoz | /doom shirik |
| 05:07.27 | Shirik | casts Curse of Doom on Gnarfoz |
| 05:07.27 | Aqua | Gnarfoz: thats my problem with it (why am asking here) |
| 05:07.40 | Gnarfoz | dispels |
| 05:07.45 | Shirik | casts Curse of Doom on Gnarfoz |
| 05:07.50 | Gnarfoz | oh wait |
| 05:07.50 | Adys | http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3808/wowscrnshot061909214613.jpg |
| 05:07.51 | Adys | it hurts |
| 05:07.52 | Adys | help |
| 05:07.58 | Gnarfoz | "Invalid target." |
| 05:08.04 | Shirik | nop |
| 05:08.11 | Gnarfoz | I'm not a NPC :< |
| 05:08.25 | Shirik | it really can only be used on NPCs? |
| 05:08.32 | Adys | no |
| 05:08.36 | Adys | it can be used on everyone |
| 05:08.40 | Aqua | it can't be used on players |
| 05:08.41 | Adys | it just wont spawn a doomguard on players |
| 05:08.42 | Shirik | I'm not a lock I don't know these things |
| 05:08.45 | Shirik | I only know how to heal |
| 05:08.45 | Gnarfoz | Adys: what realm is that? I know someone called sikk ;D |
| 05:08.56 | Shirik | curse of doom spawns a doomguard? |
| 05:08.57 | Shirik | wtf |
| 05:08.57 | Adys | Gnarfoz: nfc, found it while cleaning up forums |
| 05:09.05 | Aqua | yea, if it kills a target |
| 05:09.08 | Aqua | it spawns a doomguard |
| 05:09.09 | Adys | Shirik: if the target dies under the effect of CoD, it will |
| 05:09.16 | Adys | er |
| 05:09.18 | Shirik | under effect |
| 05:09.19 | Gnarfoz | and since when can players cast CoD on players? |
| 05:09.20 | Shirik | or as a result of |
| 05:09.20 | Adys | because of the effect of CoD* |
| 05:09.23 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:09.33 | Adys | always been that way Gnarfoz |
| 05:09.36 | Gnarfoz | not true |
| 05:09.39 | Shirik | I just knew about the tons of damage |
| 05:09.52 | Gnarfoz | WL was my first main char until 01/06 |
| 05:10.00 | Gnarfoz | most certainly you could not CoD on players :p |
| 05:10.01 | Adys | your mom was my first main char |
| 05:10.12 | Shirik | wtf Adys |
| 05:10.17 | Shirik | that is a scary picture |
| 05:10.21 | Adys | yeah |
| 05:10.22 | Gnarfoz | that amount of damage would have been 3/4 of a player's HP at those times |
| 05:10.24 | Adys | video card bug |
| 05:10.34 | Adys | Gnarfoz: yeah so? |
| 05:10.40 | Gnarfoz | Adys: I refer you to: |
| 05:10.43 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47867 |
| 05:10.47 | Gnarfoz | Curses the target with impending doom, causing 7300 Shadow damage after 1 min. If the target yields experience or honor when it dies from this damage, a Doomguard will be summoned. Cannot be cast on players. |
| 05:10.53 | Aqua | yea, curse of doom was not allowed on players |
| 05:10.55 | Gnarfoz | what were you smoking? :p |
| 05:10.56 | Adys | seriously |
| 05:10.59 | Adys | wsg |
| 05:11.03 | Aqua | its been like that for a long time |
| 05:11.04 | Adys | I got CoD'd many times |
| 05:11.13 | Adys | and Im talking about pre bc here |
| 05:11.19 | Gnarfoz | it has always been that way |
| 05:11.32 | Aqua | Adys: not to insult you, but your thinking of something else |
| 05:11.44 | Adys | no, I was definitely thinking of your mom |
| 05:12.01 | Gnarfoz | I wish my mom was castable on players |
| 05:12.13 | Aqua | i highly doubt you were thinking of my mom, my mom is so big she crushes other players |
| 05:12.26 | Gnarfoz | so she is +4 levels? |
| 05:12.37 | Aqua | thats why my mom is routinely the daily heroic.... she's a big bitch... |
| 05:12.47 | Adys | PEOPLE PISS ME OFF |
| 05:13.07 | Adys | 2 years ago |
| 05:13.14 | Adys | "Alsa is so bad, we should go back to OSS!" |
| 05:13.16 | Aqua | hey atleast people don't piss on you.. |
| 05:13.16 | Adys | today |
| 05:13.24 | Adys | "Pulseaudio is so bad, we should go back to Alsa!" |
| 05:13.31 | Shirik | hey Adys |
| 05:13.33 | Shirik | maybe you can fix my sound |
| 05:13.37 | Adys | maybe I can |
| 05:13.40 | ScytheBlade1 | The trick here is that pulseaudio actually is pretty terrible |
| 05:13.41 | Shirik | I only ever hear sound when I log in or when I log off |
| 05:13.46 | Shirik | explanation please |
| 05:13.47 | Adys | OS? |
| 05:13.49 | ScytheBlade1 | And I've submitted patches to projects to improve pulseaudio support |
| 05:13.50 | Shirik | Linux |
| 05:13.54 | Gnarfoz | hehe, with open source, there's always the possibility that they are indeed correct :P |
| 05:13.54 | Adys | distro? |
| 05:14.01 | Shirik | Ubuntu,don't laugh |
| 05:14.05 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahahaha |
| 05:14.09 | *** kick/#wowuidev [ScytheBlade1!n=Shirik@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shirik (bye) |
| 05:14.09 | Adys | bwahahahahah |
| 05:14.12 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Adys!n=Shirik@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shirik (bye) |
| 05:14.12 | *** join/#wowuidev ScytheBlade1 (n=Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1) |
| 05:14.16 | ScytheBlade1 | May I repeat |
| 05:14.17 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahahaha |
| 05:14.17 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 05:14.20 | Adys | sort it yourself |
| 05:14.20 | Aqua | nothing wrong with Ubuntu |
| 05:14.28 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b %*!ScytheBla*@*] by Shirik |
| 05:14.32 | Adys | tip: dont kick the one helping you~ |
| 05:14.32 | Shirik | oh wow I fail at typing |
| 05:14.32 | Aqua | it gets the job done... |
| 05:14.34 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-b %*!ScytheBla*@*] by Shirik |
| 05:14.36 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:14.50 | Adys | and yeah of all the distros ive used ubuntu's the best one |
| 05:14.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Before you b& |
| 05:14.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Add a minion installer category to the tracker |
| 05:15.08 | Shirik | yeah I intend to |
| 05:15.10 | ScytheBlade1 | k |
| 05:15.18 | Adys | also shirik, pulseaudio or alsa? |
| 05:15.47 | Adys | and what do you mean when you log in/off, you dont hear it ingame just the charscreen? |
| 05:15.54 | Aqua | Shirik: what were you doing with C++ earlier? |
| 05:15.55 | Shirik | I hear the log on and log off sound |
| 05:16.02 | Adys | eh |
| 05:16.04 | Adys | what logon sound? |
| 05:16.10 | Shirik | I use C++ all the time, I can't know what I did "earlier" :P |
| 05:16.17 | Shirik | Adys: When I log into KDE |
| 05:16.21 | Adys | Aqua: SEGFAULT SEGFAULT SEGFAULT |
| 05:16.22 | Adys | oh |
| 05:16.30 | Adys | i thought you were talking about wow |
| 05:17.04 | Adys | so uh, if you fire up vlc or something, no sound comes up? |
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| 05:19.02 | Aqua | video encoding ftl.. |
| 05:19.18 | AnduinLothar | pop rocks ftw |
| 05:19.41 | Shirik | I haven't tried vlc |
| 05:19.46 | Shirik | but no sound from anything I've tried so far |
| 05:19.46 | Adys | flash |
| 05:19.50 | Adys | right |
| 05:19.56 | Tom_0033 | any technical developers here? (Im not sure what this channel is _really_ for) |
| 05:20.01 | Shirik | yes |
| 05:20.02 | Adys | Tom_0033: just ask |
| 05:20.03 | ScytheBlade1 | the pulseaudio or alsa question is still a good one |
| 05:20.05 | ScytheBlade1 | ~asktoask |
| 05:20.05 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 05:20.19 | Shirik | alsa |
| 05:20.32 | Adys | Shirik: ALSA SUCKS USE OSS! |
| 05:20.37 | ScytheBlade1 | you don't have a trace of pulseaudio running anywhere? and you're 100% positive? |
| 05:20.40 | Shirik | should I switch over to linux? so I can test things? |
| 05:20.43 | Adys | more seriously, i dunno, look in your mixers |
| 05:20.43 | Shirik | or check them |
| 05:20.49 | Shirik | I've checked my mixers |
| 05:20.51 | Shirik | they're all at 100% |
| 05:20.53 | Aqua | wow... runeblade of baron rivendare twice in two days, yet still no mount.... sigh |
| 05:20.53 | Shirik | with no mute |
| 05:20.55 | Tom_0033 | Im looking for a wya to request an addition to auctioneer ... specifically exponential smoothing on minumimum buyout prices. |
| 05:21.04 | ScytheBlade1 | #norganna is auctioneer's channel |
| 05:21.06 | Tom_0033 | oops spelling |
| 05:21.08 | Adys | Tom_0033: they got #norganna |
| 05:21.16 | Shirik | they got Shirik |
| 05:21.22 | Shirik | whom doesn't watch that channel like he should |
| 05:21.28 | Tom_0033 | ok mmoving |
| 05:21.54 | Adys | Shirik: maybe an app is squatting all the sound channels? |
| 05:21.57 | Adys | wine tends to do that |
| 05:22.17 | Shirik | nothing was running really |
| 05:22.18 | ScytheBlade1 | even if that was the case, alsa defaults to software mixing now - apps would have to try very hard to block that |
| 05:22.26 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: wine does that |
| 05:22.26 | Adys | :P |
| 05:22.31 | ScytheBlade1 | mine didn't |
| 05:22.46 | Adys | try to launch a patcher, and zombify wineserver |
| 05:22.49 | Shirik | I'll switch over to linux |
| 05:22.52 | Shirik | brb |
| 05:22.52 | Adys | your sound is dead until wineserver is killed |
| 05:23.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't have wow nor wine installed anymore |
| 05:23.11 | Adys | your mom does |
| 05:23.27 | ScytheBlade1 | my mom can't even use a cell phone properly =] |
| 05:23.50 | Adys | yeah well MY mom can |
| 05:24.03 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:26.41 | Adys | django.template.RequestContext |
| 05:26.42 | Adys | WIN |
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| 05:30.11 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 05:30.29 | Shirik | ok ScytheBlade1 |
| 05:30.33 | Shirik | fix mai soundz |
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| 05:30.34 | ScytheBlade1 | ps aux | grep pulse |
| 05:30.39 | Shirik | woah wtf |
| 05:30.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Anything pop up? |
| 05:30.41 | Shirik | I heard that |
| 05:30.45 | Shirik | I heard irc |
| 05:30.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm good like that |
| 05:30.52 | ScytheBlade1 | s/good/awesome/ |
| 05:30.53 | Shirik | ok so it must be nexiuz that's not playing sound |
| 05:31.32 | Wobin | http://www.redbalcony.com/?vid=24992 |
| 05:31.38 | Wobin | Partly Cloudy ^ |
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| 05:37.34 | Shirik|AFK | grats ScytheBlade1 |
| 05:37.36 | Shirik|AFK | nice kernel panic |
| 05:37.40 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:37.42 | Shirik|AFK | fix mai shitz |
| 05:37.51 | Adys | Shirik: if you stopped stressing your computer out like that |
| 05:37.54 | Shirik|AFK | [Sat Jun 20 2009] [01:30:53] <Shirik> ok so it must be nexiuz that's not playing sound |
| 05:37.55 | ScytheBlade1 | talk to adys |
| 05:37.58 | Shirik|AFK | Last thing I saw |
| 05:38.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I h8 ubuntu |
| 05:38.05 | ScytheBlade1 | h8888888888888 |
| 05:38.06 | Adys | i have nfc what nexiuz is |
| 05:38.11 | Shirik|AFK | it's a game |
| 05:38.17 | Shirik|AFK | I'ma try wow |
| 05:38.50 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: ubuntu is just debian with non outdated software |
| 05:39.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm really not doing to debate that right now |
| 05:39.14 | Adys | what's to debate? |
| 05:39.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got this epic migraine that is quite inhibiting |
| 05:39.20 | Shirik|AFK | fixme:mixer:ALSA_MixerInit No master control found on HDA ATI HDMI, disabling mixer |
| 05:39.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, sorry, not even starting, lol |
| 05:39.24 | Adys | it IS just debian :/ |
| 05:39.26 | Shirik|AFK | is that important? |
| 05:39.30 | ScytheBlade1 | no @ Shirik|AFK |
| 05:39.36 | Adys | Shirik|AFK: it means you got an ATI card |
| 05:39.38 | Adys | you're fucked |
| 05:39.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Aside from that, no |
| 05:39.56 | Adys | you are completely fucking screwed |
| 05:39.58 | Shirik|AFK | who cares about the ATI card |
| 05:40.02 | Shirik|AFK | what does that have to do with my sound |
| 05:40.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It's HDMI |
| 05:40.08 | Adys | everything |
| 05:40.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Which means it has HDMI audio out |
| 05:40.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Which means it functions as an additional audio card |
| 05:40.32 | Adys | just dont use ATI |
| 05:40.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Which probably means your game is piping audio out over HDMI which is why you can't hear it |
| 05:40.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Also that |
| 05:40.50 | Adys | I h8 ATI |
| 05:40.53 | Adys | h8888888888888 |
| 05:40.57 | Shirik|AFK | wait what? |
| 05:41.01 | Shirik|AFK | it has HDMI out? |
| 05:41.02 | ScytheBlade1 | HDMI does audio too |
| 05:41.07 | ScytheBlade1 | 01:39 <@Shirik|AFK> fixme:mixer:ALSA_MixerInit No master control found on HDA ATI HDMI, disabling mixer |
| 05:41.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like |
| 05:41.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Or at a minimum, has enough HDMI components internally to present an audio device to alsa |
| 05:41.39 | Corrodias | if there is an audio cable connection between your sound card and the video card and it's connected, it may well disable other audio output |
| 05:41.43 | Adys | you might be able to change your card |
| 05:41.58 | Adys | now if only you had pulse.. wouldnt it be easy... |
| 05:42.08 | Adys | meanwhile go in sound settings and see what you can find |
| 05:42.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|AFK: pastey the results of `aplay -l` |
| 05:45.36 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm, I suspect either he got his game sound working, or he hit another kernel panic |
| 05:45.45 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: why does enabling SUF make Grid error? :o |
| 05:45.56 | Shadowed | because Grid has an error in how it's updating fonts |
| 05:46.09 | Shadowed | I put a ticket in like 2 weeks ago and nobody fixed it :< |
| 05:46.19 | Gnarfoz | because "nobody" is pasta, there is only him |
| 05:46.26 | Gnarfoz | ~seen pastamancer |
| 05:46.28 | purl | pastamancer is currently on #curseforge (32d 14h 1m 24s). Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 11h 48m 56s, last said: 'ckknight: nm, found it'. |
| 05:46.46 | ckknight | noes |
| 05:47.04 | Gnarfoz | ninja highlights ftw |
| 05:48.32 | Shadowed | Gnarfoz http://www.wowace.com/projects/grid/tickets/139-grid-is-updating-fonts-registered-with-sml-incorrectly/ |
| 05:48.35 | Shadowed | see that for how to fix grid |
| 05:49.13 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: k |
| 05:49.24 | Gnarfoz | (curious how that happens only with SUF, though o_O) |
| 05:51.43 | Gnarfoz | hm, there is no function at that line, for me |
| 05:52.05 | Gnarfoz | or wait, it's in the middle of an anonymous one, hehe |
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| 05:53.53 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 05:54.49 | Shirik | hi again |
| 05:54.50 | Shadowed | check the pasty |
| 05:54.54 | Shirik | yay kernel panics |
| 05:54.56 | Shirik | so HDMI out huh |
| 05:55.00 | Shadowed | Gnarfoz: SUF registers the fonts after PEW |
| 05:55.05 | ScytheBlade1 | called that |
| 05:55.07 | Shadowed | so Grid has already registered for the callback |
| 05:55.11 | ScytheBlade1 | It panicked when you did aplay -l? |
| 05:55.20 | Shadowed | if I registered them when the file actually loaded, you probably wouldn't see that error |
| 05:55.23 | Shirik | it panicked after I tried to log into wow 10 times |
| 05:55.47 | Shadowed | it's definitely a Grid issue thought |
| 05:55.53 | Gnarfoz | so the entire difference comes down to ", self.db.profile.fontSize" basically? |
| 05:56.01 | ScytheBlade1 | all bets are on ati there |
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| 05:59.00 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 05:59.04 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: im editing your ticket unless you object |
| 05:59.05 | Fisker | rage courses through my veins |
| 05:59.33 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster nope |
| 05:59.37 | Shadowed | Gnarfoz yup |
| 05:59.46 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: look at it now |
| 05:59.50 | Fisker | rips Shadowed apart |
| 05:59.55 | Shadowed | oh I have to embed code in it |
| 06:00.11 | Shadowed | I see |
| 06:00.23 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if I'll be killed by someone if I simply fix that then ;p |
| 06:00.29 | Shadowed | probably not |
| 06:00.31 | Fisker | YOU |
| 06:00.39 | Fisker | kills Gnarfoz |
| 06:00.40 | Gnarfoz | someone excludes "Fisker" |
| 06:00.50 | Fisker | where's my SC2 beta :( |
| 06:00.54 | Gnarfoz | since "someone" refers to people, not trolls :P |
| 06:01.05 | Fisker | not a troll |
| 06:01.06 | Fisker | blood elf |
| 06:01.10 | Gnarfoz | right |
| 06:01.20 | Fisker | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Ravencrest&cn=Fiskerdin&gn=Semper+Danica <-i can join pugs btw |
| 06:01.20 | Fisker | wee |
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| 06:02.13 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: the amazing thing is that they let you join them |
| 06:03.01 | Fisker | ? |
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| 06:06.12 | Shirij | ok too many kernel panics |
| 06:06.17 | Shirij | epoch fail |
| 06:06.21 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirij] by ChanServ |
| 06:06.31 | ScytheBlade1 | You need to fix your hardware or your kernel (drivers) |
| 06:06.38 | Shirik | it wasn't doing this before today |
| 06:06.40 | Shirik | somethinggot jacked up |
| 06:06.45 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: what achivement are you refering to? |
| 06:06.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, actually looking at the kernel panic backtrace helps things |
| 06:07.17 | Shirik | I don't see one |
| 06:07.22 | Shirik | I only see flashing caps lock |
| 06:07.28 | Fisker | Arrowmaster Epic of course |
| 06:07.29 | Fisker | :3 |
| 06:07.32 | ScytheBlade1 | It /might/ be in /var/log/messages |
| 06:07.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Or hidden away somewhere in /var/log |
| 06:07.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Depends on the panic, really |
| 06:07.55 | Fisker | But linux can't crash |
| 06:08.07 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: thats what pugs are refering to when they say 'link achievement?' |
| 06:08.17 | Fisker | Sometimes |
| 06:08.27 | Arrowmaster | i dont even have superior |
| 06:08.46 | Fisker | Sometimes they also want the achievement for the instance they're going for |
| 06:09.05 | Arrowmaster | but i have a twilight vanq achievement thats dated as the 2nd raid to get it on the server |
| 06:12.43 | Gnarfoz | I'll just link 'em realm first achievement ;o |
| 06:13.00 | Gnarfoz | (actually I don't do PUGs :P) |
| 06:13.59 | Shirik | you know why Linux crashes? |
| 06:14.15 | Shirik | because it tries to do way too much shit in kernel mode |
| 06:14.24 | Shirik | This is why I like QNX |
| 06:14.28 | Shirik | even drivers aren't kernel-mode |
| 06:14.40 | Shirik | there is no difference between "driver" and "application" except in your mind |
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| 06:15.35 | Fisker | Linux DOESN'T CRASH |
| 06:15.38 | Fisker | only windows does |
| 06:15.41 | Fisker | get the facts |
| 06:15.48 | Shirik | no, Linux just goes "wtf" |
| 06:15.51 | Shirik | in your face |
| 06:15.54 | Shirik | never crashes |
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| 06:17.39 | ScytheBlade1 | well |
| 06:17.51 | ScytheBlade1 | technically, linux is incapable of doing anything outside of kernel mode |
| 06:18.41 | Fisker | omg this hitler just did \o at me |
| 06:18.55 | Fisker | err |
| 06:19.03 | Fisker | tired me is tired |
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| 06:28.20 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: And I honestly think that's a flawed OS concept |
| 06:29.15 | Shirik | of course, I disagree with a lot that Linus does |
| 06:29.21 | Shirik | and Linux is certainly successful |
| 06:29.30 | Shirik | but I think it's time for something new |
| 06:29.35 | Fisker | linux is pretty bad because Linus looks like a pedophile |
| 06:29.36 | widgertick | No. |
| 06:29.41 | widgertick | Never! |
| 06:29.52 | widgertick | We must iterate on old things for all eternity. |
| 06:29.58 | widgertick | Viva la x86 instruction set |
| 06:30.23 | Shirik | pokes widgertick with 16-bit compatibility |
| 06:31.01 | widgertick | emulates being poked poorly and crashes to the dismay of many and the surprise of few. |
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| 06:31.32 | Shirik | ~emulate widgertick |
| 06:33.14 | widgertick | O_o |
| 06:33.26 | Shirik | haha, I get it |
| 06:33.28 | widgertick | is invisible, like Kevin Bacon. |
| 06:33.31 | Shirik | emulate widgertick == do nothing |
| 06:33.34 | Shirik | owned |
| 06:33.49 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Shirik!n=widgerti@unaffiliated/widgertick] by widgertick (</3) |
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| 06:33.50 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 06:33.53 | Shirik | pets widgertick |
| 06:33.58 | widgertick | moos |
| 06:36.51 | cog|away | bleets |
| 06:37.49 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: no pettarget unit in sUF? :< |
| 06:37.58 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 06:38.06 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: it doesn't work that way |
| 06:38.15 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 06:38.30 | Gnarfoz | Fisker |
| 06:38.38 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 06:38.48 | Gnarfoz | ~fisker |
| 06:38.48 | purl | fisker- is a brand of cat food |
| 06:39.04 | Shadowed | probably going to end up adding it in |
| 06:39.19 | Shadowed | or might not |
| 06:39.19 | Shadowed | dunno |
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| 06:43.41 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: but do I read that right, SUF swaps my playerframe to my vehicle? |
| 06:43.49 | Shadowed | YES |
| 06:43.51 | Shadowed | minus caps |
| 06:43.56 | Gnarfoz | guess I don't really need pet target then, anyway |
| 06:44.30 | Shadowed | all frames do that |
| 06:44.36 | Shadowed | party/raid will swap to vehicles as well |
| 06:44.50 | Gnarfoz | not going to use those, but good to know :) |
| 06:45.19 | Gnarfoz | I guess quartz needs an update to listen to my vehicle's cast events instead of mine, too :\ |
| 06:45.38 | Gnarfoz | not looking forward to having no castbar while on vehicles, hmm |
| 06:46.07 | Gnarfoz | hehe, I think I broke it |
| 06:46.36 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 06:46.47 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 06:46.47 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
| 06:46.55 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: http://paste.wowace.com/799/ ;D |
| 06:48.01 | Shadowed | uh what did you anchor the frame to |
| 06:48.25 | Gnarfoz | good question, that menu confused me a bit ;> |
| 06:48.55 | Gnarfoz | wanted to anchor target to screen, center, and player to the left side of target, ToT to the right side of target |
| 06:49.01 | Shadowed | what did you anchor the player frame to |
| 06:49.15 | Gnarfoz | target |
| 06:49.30 | Shadowed | what anchor point |
| 06:49.30 | Gnarfoz | not good? :> |
| 06:49.39 | Gnarfoz | hmm, left center, I think |
| 06:49.45 | Shadowed | k |
| 06:49.47 | Shadowed | will look into it later |
| 06:49.56 | Gnarfoz | I'll reset profile for now ;P |
| 06:54.06 | Shirik | why the fuck has notepad been around for like 20 years |
| 06:54.16 | Shirik | and it STILL can't handle lines ended with \n |
| 06:55.27 | Fisker | Shirik |
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| 07:15.38 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 07:20.44 | Dewin | Fisker |
| 07:21.50 | Dewin | Nobody to continue the trend? >.> |
| 07:27.42 | Adys | Could people click this keylo-- I mean testcase and tell me what they see, and what their browser is? |
| 07:27.48 | Adys | particularly safari users: http://devcub.com/~adys/css-empty.html |
| 07:27.56 | Adys | and chrome on windows/mac |
| 07:28.17 | Adys | (and opera users.) |
| 07:31.36 | Torhal | Firefox 3.0.11, Linux. I see an annoyingly bright red box with a neon-purple border which contains the text "You really should see this!" |
| 07:31.57 | Torhal | On a dark gray background. |
| 07:32.38 | Adys | anyone else? =| |
| 07:32.41 | Torhal | All I see under Chrome is the background. |
| 07:33.01 | Adys | yeah, need it tested on windows tho |
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| 07:42.30 | Fisker | just dark gray background |
| 07:42.33 | Fisker | on windoze |
| 07:43.56 | Arrowmaster | i saw the box in firefox on windows |
| 07:44.42 | Adys | Fisker: what browser? |
| 07:46.20 | jnwhiteh | FF mac os x sees it |
| 07:46.37 | jnwhiteh | what does this use that's not working? |
| 07:46.42 | jnwhiteh | something acid doesn't test? |
| 07:47.46 | zenzelezz | not that it matters to your test, but your HTML lacks a </body> |
| 07:48.36 | myrkraverk | Adys, aparently works on opera, solaris |
| 07:48.56 | Fisker | Chrome Adys |
| 07:51.03 | Adys | jnwhiteh: its css3.. and I dunno if acid3 tests it |
| 07:51.06 | widgertick | tackles jnwhiteh |
| 07:51.09 | Adys | gimme a min |
| 07:51.18 | jnwhiteh | hugs widgertick |
| 07:52.07 | jnwhiteh | can you only get the response of a ready check if you're a RA/RL? |
| 07:52.47 | Adys | jnwhiteh: can you test this? http://devcub.com/~adys/css-empty2.html |
| 07:53.02 | jnwhiteh | first two work |
| 07:53.03 | jnwhiteh | no green |
| 07:53.09 | jnwhiteh | and nothing for the nothing |
| 07:53.17 | Adys | bah |
| 07:53.21 | Adys | filing a report then |
| 07:54.07 | jnwhiteh | kk |
| 07:54.12 | jnwhiteh | if i can help let me know |
| 07:54.25 | jnwhiteh | i've got chrome, ff, safari and webkit dev all on my machine |
| 07:55.12 | widgertick | My chrome result is red/blue/nothing/nothing |
| 07:55.18 | widgertick | My IE result is red/red/green/gree |
| 07:55.36 | widgertick | Two greens, as it were! |
| 07:56.00 | Adys | jnwhiteh: it seems its only with :empty and display: none |
| 07:56.11 | widgertick | My firefox works as intended |
| 07:57.11 | jnwhiteh | Adys: but I'm not sure why the first notice doesn't work! |
| 07:57.41 | Adys | first? |
| 07:57.54 | jnwhiteh | yeah the http://devcub.com/~adys/css-empty.html.. why the first notice doesn't display |
| 07:58.02 | Adys | ah |
| 07:58.03 | jnwhiteh | webkit nightly same issue |
| 07:58.10 | jnwhiteh | on both |
| 07:58.37 | Adys | it looks like webkit doesn't respect :empty for display: none |
| 08:01.52 | Fisker | this is madness |
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| 08:36.25 | Arrowmaster | im such an achivement whore im playing through the vocal career in guitar hero metallica on beginner dificulty humming into the mic for the 150 point achievement for completing all instrument careers |
| 08:38.32 | Arrowmaster | im getting perfect scores since beginner is the 'you suck, here now its impossible to fail' dificulty |
| 08:41.41 | Wobin | Adys: I get everything fine in FF |
| 08:42.01 | Adys | yeah its a webkit issue |
| 08:42.09 | Adys | cf https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26570 |
| 08:42.57 | widgertick | ~jnwhiteh++ |
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| 09:26.38 | ZorbaTHut | anyone know the URL to get that login message? |
| 09:27.47 | mikma | ~wowalert |
| 09:27.47 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 09:29.44 | ZorbaTHut | thanks :) |
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| 09:42.10 | Sixen | The requested URL /alert was not found on this server. |
| 09:42.22 | Sixen | oic |
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| 09:47.24 | Pwntang | morning |
| 09:48.59 | widgertick | Heya! |
| 09:49.11 | Pwntang | can someone tell me what happens when an addon loads? By that I mean, what functions within your lua script run? For some reason, my addon seems to be running one of my functions at the same time as another is running (one that is triggered by an event) and I can't seem to find a reason for it |
| 09:50.02 | widgertick | It depends on what's in your TOC file |
| 09:50.16 | ZorbaTHut | pwntang, it basically executes all your .lua files |
| 09:50.41 | ZorbaTHut | in order |
| 09:50.57 | Pwntang | so, each function will run regardless of whether the function is called? |
| 09:51.07 | widgertick | Pwntang: No |
| 09:51.47 | ZorbaTHut | it creates the functions, but it will not run the function until the function is called |
| 09:52.45 | Fisker | you |
| 09:52.45 | ZorbaTHut | you can call the function yourself, you can rig up something to cause the function to be called from an event (the latter is very common) |
| 09:52.45 | Fisker | YOU |
| 09:53.07 | Pwntang | in that case, I've done something to make it call the function at the wrong time. I'll double check my code |
| 09:53.22 | widgertick | Can you paste your addon on wowuidev.pastey.net so we can see what you're doing? |
| 09:53.28 | widgertick | And give us a link? |
| 09:54.00 | Pwntang | okay. I'll do that a little later. I'll take a look at the website |
| 09:55.32 | widgertick | That website is just a place to paste files and text so others can see them without spamming IRC |
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| 09:55.55 | widgertick | If you'd like more information on what's going on when an addon loads, others can probably give you more helpful inks |
| 09:55.56 | Dara | hey |
| 09:56.04 | widgertick | Links, rather. |
| 09:56.40 | Pwntang | okay, thanks. I'll take a look |
| 10:01.06 | Fisker | you :( |
| 10:02.38 | widgertick | Us? |
| 10:02.42 | Fisker | no |
| 10:02.47 | widgertick | Me? |
| 10:02.59 | Fisker | no |
| 10:03.13 | widgertick | You? |
| 10:03.25 | Fisker | no |
| 10:03.27 | widgertick | no? |
| 10:03.48 | Fisker | yes |
| 10:03.56 | widgertick | yes! |
| 10:04.11 | Fisker | yes |
| 10:04.40 | widgertick | feels like Bugs Bunny! |
| 10:04.51 | jnwhiteh | ooh |
| 10:04.55 | jnwhiteh | champion of stormwind today |
| 10:05.06 | Thunder_Child | long ears and furry widgertick? |
| 10:05.07 | jnwhiteh | but i shall delay methinks |
| 10:05.20 | jnwhiteh | can i get more than 25 valiant's seal? |
| 10:05.25 | Dara | hey there, got a problem with oUf, the castbar(s) (player &target) should have a border, but there's none .. can't figure our why :/ |
| 10:05.36 | jnwhiteh | i.e. can i just not turn in the quest to collect 25 of them, and get the next 25? |
| 10:05.43 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: sure |
| 10:06.01 | jnwhiteh | nothing new opens up when you're a champion of all factions, right? |
| 10:06.13 | widgertick | Dara: You're probably stuck in a local spacetime deformation that delays your addon specific questions by ten minutes |
| 10:06.20 | jnwhiteh | don't even get a damn title for it =/ |
| 10:06.23 | widgertick | Dara: I'd blame CERN |
| 10:06.33 | Dara | :O |
| 10:06.43 | widgertick | Dara: <3 |
| 10:06.55 | Dara | dara = <3 ! |
| 10:07.22 | Dara | it's the old oUF_Lyn if that help :P |
| 10:08.34 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: you get a title if you're extalted champion of all and exalted argent crusade, though |
| 10:08.43 | jnwhiteh | ah, what title is that? |
| 10:08.48 | nevcairiel | Crusader <name> |
| 10:08.54 | jnwhiteh | ooh nice |
| 10:09.02 | jnwhiteh | i'm only honored with the crusade |
| 10:09.12 | widgertick | Hail, Crusader <name> jnwhiteh! |
| 10:09.16 | jnwhiteh | so that'll take some time |
| 10:09.20 | jnwhiteh | i'm ambassador atm |
| 10:09.22 | jnwhiteh | cause i like it :P |
| 10:10.00 | widgertick | There goes Crusader <name> jnwhiteh, we should would have been lost without his faction specific grinding insert reward text! |
| 10:10.06 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 10:10.14 | widgertick | s/should would/sure would/ |
| 10:11.21 | widgertick | <3 |
| 10:12.19 | Fisker | you |
| 10:13.00 | widgertick | ~Fisker-- |
| 10:13.46 | mikma | torhal: did you fix the GUI open? ;) |
| 10:13.51 | widgertick | exits, stage Fisker. |
| 10:13.55 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/06/19/funny-pictures-motherhood-2/ |
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| 10:15.37 | Fisker | thanks widgertick |
| 10:15.40 | Fisker | but it doesn't matter |
| 10:15.43 | Fisker | ~karma Fisker |
| 10:15.43 | purl | fisker has karma of -6 |
| 10:15.47 | Fisker | FU? |
| 10:15.50 | Fisker | ~karma Fisker- |
| 10:15.50 | purl | fisker- has karma of -2 |
| 10:15.51 | zenzio | :) |
| 10:15.52 | Fisker | gah |
| 10:15.53 | zenzio | oops |
| 10:15.55 | Fisker | someone fixed it |
| 10:16.05 | Arrowmaster | ~Fisker-- |
| 10:16.08 | Arrowmaster | ~Fisker--- |
| 10:17.22 | Arrowmaster | You have (6) message from Microsoft Outlook. |
| 10:17.22 | Arrowmaster | Please re-configure your Microsoft Outlook again. |
| 10:17.22 | Arrowmaster | Download attached setup file and install. |
| 10:17.23 | Arrowmaster | hah |
| 10:17.26 | Arrowmaster | good one |
| 10:19.41 | Arrowmaster | http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/positive-greater-than-negative |
| 10:19.43 | Arrowmaster | i dont get it |
| 10:20.21 | Fisker | because you're stupid |
| 10:20.21 | Fisker | :3 |
| 10:20.41 | mikma | fiskered |
| 10:21.32 | widgertick | ~Fisker-- |
| 10:22.13 | Fisker | moar |
| 10:23.28 | mikma | widgertick: pssssst! it's '/kick fisker --^20' |
| 10:23.45 | Thunder_Child | DANCE boy DANCE |
| 10:24.44 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:24.51 | Thunder_Child | throws a playstation at Fisker |
| 10:25.07 | Wobin | http://www.contracostatimes.com/politics/ci_12589887 |
| 10:25.39 | Fisker | i am unstoppable Thunder_Child |
| 10:25.51 | Thunder_Child | touches Fisker with a twenty-foot rusty halberd |
| 10:26.37 | Fisker | https://kr.battle.net/account/_images/icons/sc2beta.gif <-zomg! |
| 10:26.57 | mikma | Not Found |
| 10:26.58 | mikma | The requested URL /account/_images/icons/sc2beta.gif was not found on this server. |
| 10:27.01 | mikma | failskerdin |
| 10:27.07 | Fisker | you're not cool enough |
| 10:27.17 | mikma | or, you just faile |
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| 10:27.19 | Fisker | no |
| 10:27.30 | mikma | sure you did |
| 10:27.35 | Fisker | nope |
| 10:27.53 | mikma | and apparently you are something like 13 years old |
| 10:28.00 | Fisker | naw |
| 10:28.09 | Fisker | Apparently you are |
| 10:28.16 | Fisker | But keep F5'ing and you'll find it |
| 10:28.24 | mikma | thanks for proving my point :D |
| 10:28.25 | Fisker | or take a look here: http://i40.tinypic.com/xonx9e.gif |
| 10:37.46 | Thunder_Child | is searching for Fisker + goatsex on yahoo. WEEE 631 hits! |
| 10:39.09 | Fisker | 229 actually |
| 10:39.31 | Fisker | owned! |
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| 10:51.16 | Mystical | hi there |
| 10:52.18 | zenzio | hello |
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| 10:54.44 | Antiarc | hoorjay |
| 10:54.47 | Antiarc | finally broke 2400 |
| 10:55.24 | zenzio | hm, Blue's News' ad service seems to be a bit behind... giving me ads for E3 2009 ("June 1-4") |
| 10:57.35 | Mystical | i've got a little problem with using fonts with outline |
| 10:58.02 | Mystical | its just looks kind of ugly, like the border isnt the same width everywhere |
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| 11:08.00 | Stanzilla_ | Antiarc: what combo? :) |
| 11:08.08 | Antiarc | disc priest/combat rogue |
| 11:09.39 | Stanzilla_ | ah, the normal stuff :P |
| 11:10.16 | Antiarc | combat rogue isn't very normal :P |
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| 11:10.24 | Antiarc | According to skgaming we're the #7 disc/combat team in the world :P |
| 11:10.30 | Bruners | daggers or swords? |
| 11:10.32 | Stanzilla_ | cheat! |
| 11:10.35 | Antiarc | CQC |
| 11:15.02 | Torhal | mikma: It opens fine for me, and I've gotten no other complaints. I'm about to push beta6 here shortly. |
| 11:15.47 | mikma | torhal: kk, if you got it fixed ^^ |
| 11:21.54 | Bruners | anyone that are using oUF_RuneBars and has done some cool stuff with it? |
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| 11:55.28 | Fisker | slaps Bruners around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:55.35 | Fisker | herrow Bruners |
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| 12:02.29 | myrkraverk | does lua have any concept of a coprocess? |
| 12:02.46 | jnwhiteh | coroutines |
| 12:02.53 | jnwhiteh | depending on specifically what you mean |
| 12:03.31 | myrkraverk | executa a program, so that I can read/write its stdin/out to communicate with it: coproccess |
| 12:04.16 | nevcairiel | vanilla-lua can do that, i think. WoWLua however, can not. |
| 12:04.18 | jnwhiteh | not in Wow |
| 12:04.22 | jnwhiteh | that's calle da pipe |
| 12:04.24 | jnwhiteh | not a co-process |
| 12:04.27 | jnwhiteh | in normal parlance |
| 12:04.32 | jnwhiteh | so forgive me for not knowing what you were talking about |
| 12:04.46 | jnwhiteh | and No, nevcairiel, Lua does not have bidirectional pipes in stock Lua |
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| 12:04.53 | jnwhiteh | only unidirectional |
| 12:05.07 | myrkraverk | ok, zsh calls it coprocess (that's where I have the name) |
| 12:05.52 | nevcairiel | I never actually tried to do it |
| 12:05.55 | nevcairiel | so shrug |
| 12:06.05 | myrkraverk | jnwhiteh, does wow lua have any facilities to communicate with external programs? |
| 12:06.15 | jnwhiteh | no, explicitly not. |
| 12:06.20 | jnwhiteh | there's no io |
| 12:06.22 | jnwhiteh | there's no comm |
| 12:06.52 | myrkraverk | so I can't even read/write files? |
| 12:06.55 | jnwhiteh | nope |
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| 12:09.24 | myrkraverk | well, I guess they sort of have to, to prevent cheats -- I was hoping to be able to communicate with an external msn client |
| 12:09.45 | jnwhiteh | nope,not possibloe. |
| 12:10.11 | myrkraverk | yeah ;/ |
| 12:10.39 | Antiarc | heh, if you could I'd imagine someone would have done it by now |
| 12:11.04 | myrkraverk | yeah, probably |
| 12:12.51 | Bruners | Fisker: hello |
| 12:13.48 | Fisker | herro |
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| 12:55.15 | Torhal | mikma: New version. Or something. |
| 12:57.44 | Vilkku | hmm, as a lowlvl priest, should I take spi or int? |
| 12:57.44 | Vilkku | as in, as my main stat |
| 12:57.44 | Mystical | define "lowlvl" |
| 12:57.44 | Mystical | ^^ |
| 12:57.46 | Antiarc | Vilkku: Spirit for spirit tap pretty much |
| 12:57.46 | Vilkku | Mystical, I'm lvl 14 atm :P |
| 12:57.46 | Vilkku | but I meant in general |
| 12:57.46 | Vilkku | Antiarc, ok |
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| 13:05.44 | Mystical | could someone link me an example for SecureUnitFrames -> type(2) = "menu" ? (right click menu for unit frames) i just cant find it anymore :( |
| 13:06.03 | Lunessa | station. |
| 13:06.27 | Lunessa | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/secure_template |
| 13:07.51 | Mystical | ah thx that was my mistake.. its on wowprgramming not wowwiki -.- |
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| 13:22.38 | Aelobin | :> |
| 13:22.42 | Aelobin | hai |
| 13:23.05 | zenzio | ohai |
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| 13:26.15 | Lunessa | hai2u? |
| 13:50.59 | Lunessa | I swear people who worry about their UI layout not saving when their computer BSODs are like the guys who would rearrange the furniture in a burning building. |
| 13:52.42 | ZorbaTHut | personally I just reloadui after making any major UI change |
| 13:53.29 | Mystical | hmm it just wont work for me to SecureFrame:SetAttribute("type", MyFunction) ... getting lua error on SecureTemplates.lua, attempt to concatenate local actionType (a function value) |
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| 14:00.23 | Lunessa | ZorbaTHut: I usually do too. But I also don't routinely play WoW on a machine which will BSOD on a regular basis. :) |
| 14:03.46 | ZorbaTHut | yes, that as well :) |
| 14:05.56 | ZorbaTHut | I knew someone who ended up booting another player from his guild because the dude's computer was so bad |
| 14:06.13 | ZorbaTHut | he'd bluescreen roughly every 30 minutes, causing more than a couple wipes |
| 14:07.29 | Lunessa | See? I can't fathom that people would want to play a game so badly that they'd suffer playing it on broken equipment |
| 14:08.41 | Lunessa | I can see a subtle problem (massive FPS drops at odd times) but a Blue Screen? Hell no. |
| 14:11.28 | Mystical | found my mistake |
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| 14:19.05 | Bruners | how can i set TexCoord for a StatusBarTexture ? |
| 14:19.11 | Lunessa | Mystical, it wouldn't be your post on the forums - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17984888477&sid=1 |
| 14:19.26 | Lunessa | would it? |
| 14:20.41 | mikma | torhal: http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info13868-DirtyGear.html |
| 14:21.24 | Mystical | Lunessa: ? |
| 14:21.42 | Lunessa | Someone else was asking about secure templates. |
| 14:24.00 | mikma | ~wowalert |
| 14:24.01 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 14:28.28 | Torhal | mikma: Yah, I know. I approved in on CurseForge the other day. |
| 14:30.15 | mikma | oh you little curseforgemonkey you |
| 14:30.51 | Torhal | WoWAce, too. |
| 14:31.01 | Torhal | If you're gonna beat me, may as well be twice. |
| 14:31.11 | mikma | sane deal actually ^^ |
| 14:31.21 | Torhal | Eh, kinda. |
| 14:32.04 | Lunessa | Torhal: That reminds me of the hazing scene in Animal House, "Thank you, Sir! May I have another?" |
| 14:32.26 | mikma | suddenly, a wild buttsecks |
| 14:32.31 | Torhal | Lunessa: Heh, yah. |
| 14:35.18 | Lunessa | mikma: http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/surprise-buttsecks.jpg |
| 14:36.24 | mikma | lunessa: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/01/17/im-poopin/ |
| 14:36.47 | Lunessa | Ah, the classics. |
| 14:42.09 | Lunessa | I totally couldn't raid with this layout, but... PANDAS! http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u121/_Mirelle/WoW2009/PandaMi_RdB2.jpg |
| 14:42.47 | mikma | what the... lovely! |
| 14:44.17 | Lunessa | Yeah, it's deliciously artistic. |
| 14:46.29 | mikma | eh, hehe... |
| 14:47.03 | mikma | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289401/ |
| 14:51.06 | Lunessa | UI Quote of the week: "i think... your addons are pissing into my eyes. " |
| 14:51.08 | ZorbaTHut | lunessa, I'd love to see some tankspot or world-first video with someone using a totally ridiculous UI |
| 14:51.08 | ZorbaTHut | "World-first Arthas kill! Here's a video, from the perspective of someone who *really loves pandas*" |
| 14:51.09 | ZorbaTHut | and, like, half the screen is covered with pandas |
| 14:51.49 | Lunessa | ZorbaTHut: Me too. As long as it didn't have bad music .... "CRAWLING IN MY SKIN!!!" |
| 14:53.24 | Pwntang | hi guys. How come if getglobal(x.."."..currentview.."."..z) == "0" is never false, even when, say, profit.day.gold ~= "0" where x="profit", currentview="day" and z="gold" |
| 14:54.02 | Pwntang | I'm trying to use getglobal within for loops to avoid retyping loads of lines |
| 14:54.43 | jnwhiteh | getglobal doesn't work with tables |
| 14:54.45 | jnwhiteh | not like that |
| 14:54.47 | jnwhiteh | nor should it |
| 14:54.48 | jnwhiteh | what you want is |
| 14:54.56 | zenzio | _G[x][currentview][z] ? |
| 14:54.57 | jnwhiteh | getglobal(x).[currentview][z] |
| 14:55.03 | jnwhiteh | or indeed what zenzio said. |
| 14:55.16 | Pwntang | ah, okay. I'll try that |
| 14:55.18 | jnwhiteh | since getglobal is deprecated |
| 14:55.20 | Pwntang | thank you |
| 14:55.25 | jnwhiteh | or should/will be |
| 14:59.20 | Pwntang | when I use if _G[x][currentview][z] == "0" or _G[x][currentview][z] == nil then I get "attempt to index field ?, a nil value" |
| 14:59.24 | Pwntang | am I using it right? |
| 15:00.19 | zenzio | been a while since I worked much with this, but I'm guessing one of x, currentview and z are not set |
| 15:03.01 | Pwntang | I don't think I'm using _G in the correct way |
| 15:03.06 | zenzio | why don't you pastey your loop and a little preceding code so we get a better picture of what you're doing? |
| 15:03.17 | Pwntang | if I try _G["profitloss"][currentview][z] then I get told that 'profitloss' is a nil value |
| 15:03.20 | Pwntang | okay |
| 15:04.18 | mikma | didn't you just tell us the problem that you found xD |
| 15:04.38 | Aelobin | you need to create each depth as a new table before you can reference a field within it |
| 15:08.07 | Pwntang | it might be because profitloss={} was defined as a local variable |
| 15:09.04 | Torhal | That would do it. |
| 15:11.28 | Aelobin | shouldn't matter if it was declared as a global too (if that's why you're using _G) |
| 15:12.59 | Pwntang | that's what it was.....it was because I'd declared as a local var. Thanks for your help. As always, very helpful people in here! |
| 15:22.16 | Pwntang | if an integer variable is set to 0, is that the same as nil? |
| 15:23.11 | Aelobin | nope |
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| 15:37.42 | Lunessa | 0 and nil are not the same. :) |
| 15:38.22 | jnwhiteh | they are in some languages/cultures |
| 15:38.27 | jnwhiteh | so its a reasonable question |
| 15:40.34 | mikma | we who know its not the same are like "wtf lol noob", but yeah, reasonable question imho |
| 15:41.23 | jnwhiteh | in Lua, they are distinct values |
| 15:41.29 | Kalroth | a variable cast to an integer should be 0 and not nil :p |
| 15:41.34 | jnwhiteh | but that's different =) |
| 15:44.06 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW7OPByRGDY&feature=player_embedded |
| 15:44.18 | Wobin | nerdalicious =) |
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| 15:53.03 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 15:54.02 | Mystical | whats the minimal size allowed for a wow texture file? |
| 15:55.17 | Zyndrome | think powers of 2 |
| 15:55.21 | Zyndrome | 2x2 then :p |
| 15:57.04 | Mystical | i pretty sure i already had the problem of a too small texture (which was not 1x1) |
| 15:58.24 | Adys | http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/dan/conspiracy/global4.jpg |
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| 16:00.23 | Zyndrome | go with 8x8 then |
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| 16:13.09 | Fisker | LOL |
| 16:13.15 | Fisker | Blizzard is introducing a queue for WG |
| 16:13.18 | Fisker | and a max player limit |
| 16:13.29 | Fisker | How about you just throw that there towel in the ring? |
| 16:16.42 | Zyndrome | o wut |
| 16:17.07 | Zyndrome | sause |
| 16:19.06 | Stanzilla_ | Fisker: link |
| 16:21.59 | jnwhiteh | if so, then they failed at their own goal :P |
| 16:22.13 | Fisker | http://www.wow.com/2009/06/20/patch-3-2-gives-wintergrasp-a-queue/ |
| 16:24.15 | jnwhiteh | sucks |
| 16:24.20 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 16:24.22 | jnwhiteh | i blame Fisker |
| 16:24.46 | Fisker | Blame Blizzard for making a shitty design and taking over half a year to "fix" it |
| 16:25.50 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 16:26.05 | jnwhiteh | no blaming you is more fun |
| 16:27.30 | Lunessa | Blaming Fisker is ALWAYS more fun. |
| 16:27.59 | amro | epic fail imo |
| 16:28.06 | Lunessa | Stub your toe? Blame Fisker. Threw up your lunch? Blame Fisker. Boyfriend stepping out on you? Blame Fisker. See how much fun this? |
| 16:28.41 | Industrial | I wish wow would have a whole zone by itself that you could enter, the zone would be nice and big (like icecrown) and there'd be keeps with keep kings and then your guild could claim a keep |
| 16:29.02 | Fisker | I wish pvp was eradicated from the game |
| 16:29.38 | Industrial | and then you could have like 3 relics each giving eg a 5% damage, 5%xp and 5%hp bonus FACTIONwide |
| 16:29.51 | Industrial | whoever gets the relic has to defend it but gets the bonus |
| 16:29.53 | Industrial | awesome |
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| 16:29.58 | Industrial | endless pvp right there :p |
| 16:30.18 | Industrial | oh, and then make every other zone fucking PVE :P |
| 16:30.43 | Fisker | wintergrasp would've worked if they did it more like TBC |
| 16:31.09 | Fisker | So you had all zones "feeding" into wintergrasp and players would spread out |
| 16:32.10 | amro | wintergrasp would be more fun if it wasn't a free honor/reward zone |
| 16:32.12 | jnwhiteh | having pvp and pve mechanics in the same game just makes it unmanageable. |
| 16:32.15 | jnwhiteh | amro: truth |
| 16:32.59 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: where do you want legit bugs w/ tomtom posted? |
| 16:33.11 | jnwhiteh | there are no legit bugs :P |
| 16:33.16 | Ackis | I found one |
| 16:33.24 | Ackis | :P |
| 16:33.26 | jnwhiteh | clearly I chose to code it that way, then |
| 16:33.33 | jnwhiteh | your assumption that it's a bug is the real problem =) |
| 16:33.35 | Ackis | the coordinate panel that you have |
| 16:33.40 | Ackis | that's moveable |
| 16:33.49 | Ackis | gets really screwed when you're in an instance |
| 16:33.58 | jnwhiteh | disable all other addons |
| 16:33.59 | jnwhiteh | load tomtom |
| 16:34.00 | Ackis | flashes on and off |
| 16:34.02 | jnwhiteh | see the problem not happen again |
| 16:34.11 | jnwhiteh | show yourself that another addon is causing a race condition with WORLD_MAP_UPDATE |
| 16:34.12 | jnwhiteh | profit! |
| 16:34.52 | Ackis | or just add if isininstance then don't show kekeke end |
| 16:34.53 | Ackis | :P |
| 16:35.00 | Lunessa | Repeat this holy mantra - "TomTom is not buggy. Some other crap is buggy." |
| 16:35.14 | jnwhiteh | TomTom most certainly has bugs |
| 16:35.22 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: No, because then i have to do 20,000 other things |
| 16:35.24 | jnwhiteh | the problem is the other addon |
| 16:35.59 | Ackis | it's the tomtom coord window screwing up, not the other addons coordinate window screwing up ;) |
| 16:36.06 | jnwhiteh | you don't undestand |
| 16:36.07 | jnwhiteh | i do not care |
| 16:36.13 | Ackis | no I understand :P |
| 16:36.20 | jnwhiteh | if i did, i would have to deal with 19,000 other fucking stupid issues from stupid addon authosr. |
| 16:36.51 | jnwhiteh | can i mask the SYMPTOM? |
| 16:36.52 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 16:36.54 | jnwhiteh | but the problem still exists |
| 16:36.58 | jnwhiteh | W_M_U race conditions are fucking bag |
| 16:37.01 | jnwhiteh | s/bag/bad/ |
| 16:37.02 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: I'm just being a douche to Ackis. |
| 16:37.15 | Ackis | Lunessa: jnwhiteh is being a douche to me too :D |
| 16:37.19 | jnwhiteh | no, im' not |
| 16:37.23 | jnwhiteh | i'm 100% serious |
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| 16:37.32 | Lunessa | He's making a very valid point Ackis. |
| 16:37.37 | Ackis | no I understand the whole other addon issue shti |
| 16:37.44 | Ackis | I deal with it on a constant basis |
| 16:38.41 | jnwhiteh | unless you have to deal with a stateful query API like the map system, I doubt that symmetry.. but my statement standard regardless of that |
| 16:39.03 | jnwhiteh | could i mask this symptom and instead "Warn" the user that they have a problem.. sure |
| 16:39.12 | jnwhiteh | but last time i tried that, it was not good. |
| 16:40.00 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: I deal with tradeskill UI mods which replace the default tradeskill window, it's not stateful like the map system, but it's still a headache with dealing with other mod integration |
| 16:40.13 | jnwhiteh | sure, it's tough |
| 16:40.17 | jnwhiteh | I don't deny that |
| 16:40.19 | Ackis | not tought, annoying |
| 16:40.25 | jnwhiteh | but its nowhere near the map system. |
| 16:40.42 | jnwhiteh | regardless |
| 16:40.45 | jnwhiteh | feel free to file a bug |
| 16:40.51 | jnwhiteh | perhaps if i feel like it i'll add a check, although its not likely |
| 16:40.57 | jnwhiteh | in the meantime, file a bug request with the offending addon's author. |
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| 16:41.03 | jnwhiteh | i can give them extensive information if they need it |
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| 16:41.29 | Ackis | :P |
| 16:42.16 | Ackis | unless there's an easy way to find out which addons I have are dicking with that I doubt I'll look for it |
| 16:42.38 | jnwhiteh | hook SetMapZoom |
| 16:42.44 | jnwhiteh | print a debugstack |
| 16:42.45 | Ackis | because I don't think the prime candidates would cause the issue because they're pretty smrt |
| 16:43.24 | jnwhiteh | you can also easily test that i'm wrong |
| 16:43.43 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:55.21 | cncfanatics | Anyone can give me a general idea of how leveling alliance side is ? (I never ever played alliance) |
| 16:56.29 | Lunessa | cncfanatics: From 1-60 is about the same without Barrens OMFG LONG RUN though horde quests tend to have more "blue" rewards in the same ranges. |
| 16:57.50 | Fisker | your mom is a long run :( |
| 16:57.55 | cncfanatics | How about 61->80 ? |
| 16:57.59 | Cidan | cncfanatics: The easiest leveling run is going to be the whole Van Cleef side of things; leveling over in Kalimdor is a pain in the ass. |
| 16:58.12 | Cidan | after 60, it's pretty much the same for both sides, give or take. |
| 16:58.12 | Lunessa | cncfanatics: No clue, I never made it that far. |
| 16:58.56 | cncfanatics | Lunessa: lol |
| 17:00.04 | Lunessa | cncfanatics: I have 4 level 80 alliance toons and someone with every profession at or near max and a goddamned pile of coin. I hate leaving that support network. :P |
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| 17:03.34 | DWSR | Anyone know if it's possible to make columns in EBB? |
| 17:09.56 | cncfanatics | Lunessa: You mean horde toons ? |
| 17:10.21 | Lunessa | cncfanatics: I misunderstood your question. |
| 17:10.30 | Fisker | slaps cncfanatics around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:10.53 | cncfanatics | slaps Fisker around with a large Lunessa |
| 17:11.00 | Lunessa | I still can't compare 61 - > from Horde-side experience since I haven't ever leveled 61 - 80 as horde. |
| 17:11.13 | cncfanatics | Oh ok :) |
| 17:11.38 | Fisker | slaps cncfanatics around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:11.54 | foxlit | Meh, 60+ is equally boring |
| 17:11.55 | cncfanatics | slaps Fisker around a lot with a very large ckknight |
| 17:12.14 | ckknight | noes |
| 17:12.28 | Aelobin_ | you wokes it up :o |
| 17:12.59 | cncfanatics | Sorry for pinging you ckknight :p |
| 17:13.07 | Fisker | kick him! |
| 17:14.09 | Fisker | slaps cncfanatics around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:14.14 | Aelobin | he did it again :o |
| 17:14.25 | cncfanatics | slaps Fisker around a lot with a very large Aelobin |
| 17:14.33 | Aelobin | dammit |
| 17:14.47 | cncfanatics | :D |
| 17:17.51 | cncfanatics | Sigh, need a totem bar, anyone can suggest me one ? :( |
| 17:18.07 | Aelobin | wait until 3.2? :P |
| 17:18.14 | Lunessa | cncfanatics: YATA. |
| 17:18.31 | cncfanatics | Not gonna wait 2 months before rerolling ^^ |
| 17:19.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol - http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/windows-help-bug.php |
| 17:20.22 | Bruners | why can't the sun understand that i'm trying to watch a movie here! |
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| 17:20.49 | Fisker | slaps Bruners around a bit with a large trout |
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| 17:22.35 | cncfanatics | I must say though, draenei look lame compared to orcs :p |
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| 17:27.42 | Aelobin | lol ScytheBlade1 |
| 17:27.50 | Fisker | slaps cncfanatics around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:28.05 | Lunessa | cncfanatics: Oh, it's on now bitch. |
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| 17:34.22 | Fisker | keep slapping him Lunessa |
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| 17:34.57 | Lunessa | http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSTRE55I5NK20090619 |
| 17:35.12 | Bruners | i should make a slap alias |
| 17:35.38 | Fisker | slaps Bruners around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:36.51 | Aelobin | waits for "compare space flight costs" website >_< |
| 17:37.48 | Bruners | Aelobin: be ahead of time and make one :P |
| 17:37.55 | Aelobin | xD |
| 17:38.23 | Aelobin | imagine the commission on a sale through one of those websites 0_o |
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| 17:43.06 | kd3 | ScytheBlade1, lmfao |
| 17:44.24 | Fisker | boom boom boom |
| 17:44.27 | Fisker | i want you in my room |
| 17:44.33 | Fisker | captures kd3 |
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| 17:46.13 | zenzelezz | Fisker: Venga Boys? |
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| 17:48.29 | Bruners | zenzelezz: wrong, its Vengaboys |
| 17:48.47 | zenzelezz | in a way I'm glad I didn't get that right |
| 17:49.38 | zenzelezz | once, when I was in another guild, we found a video of one of our members dancing to that song on Youtube |
| 17:49.49 | zenzelezz | it was disturbing |
| 17:57.15 | Fisker | once i was in your mom |
| 17:57.16 | Fisker | hoho |
| 17:57.55 | Aelobin | everything ok Fisker ? :P |
| 17:58.04 | Fisker | yeah |
| 17:58.11 | zenzelezz | that's Fisker at his normal |
| 17:59.03 | zenzelezz | pretends his grammar didn't fail |
| 18:00.26 | Fisker | http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9172/1245456677307.jpg <-well played |
| 18:00.56 | zenzelezz | Fisker: nice link |
| 18:02.30 | Aelobin | xD |
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| 18:03.28 | widgertick | isn't sure he trusts this strange new Shirik. |
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| 18:06.55 | widgertick | jlkfljkadsfljk: Sorry to read about your problems finding a nick. |
| 18:08.45 | zenzelezz | maybe it's just his way to express his individuality; or to detach himself from the burdens of the norms of names |
| 18:08.47 | Aelobin | couldnt even get past the middle row of keys in his fit of rage :P |
| 18:10.15 | jlkfljkadsfljk | well actually normally mibbit does the thingy so I can use my nick here and I don't know how to do that manually. So to avoid getting kicked I had to chose something not registered |
| 18:11.12 | zenzelezz | if you want to know how to do it manually, type /ns help |
| 18:11.51 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirij] by ChanServ |
| 18:12.04 | kd3 | gack! an invader from AQ |
| 18:13.46 | Shirik | ok so I'm using a VPN. Anyone got a suggestion on how I might transfer a file here? |
| 18:13.53 | Shirik | from one of my network drives |
| 18:21.10 | zenzelezz | where is "here"? |
| 18:21.44 | Fisker | does it matter? |
| 18:21.51 | Shirik | my house |
| 18:22.32 | zenzelezz | I meant more like is "here" the computer on which you are running the VPN client, or the one you're connected to through the VPN? |
| 18:22.51 | Shirik | the one running the vpn client, though it's not so much a client as it is windows |
| 18:23.07 | zenzelezz | WTS? |
| 18:23.22 | Shirik | huh? |
| 18:23.26 | Fisker | WTB? |
| 18:23.39 | zenzelezz | Windows Terminal Services, it's a sort of VPN-like thing IIRC |
| 18:24.01 | Shirik | I'm using terminal services to log in to the computer, yes, but that's not really vpn |
| 18:24.07 | Shirik | vpn is just connecting to the network itself |
| 18:24.24 | Shirik | then I use terminal services to connect to my desktop at work, but I'm trying to avoid that |
| 18:24.31 | Shirik | I need one of the files here, remote desktop is unacceptable |
| 18:24.58 | zenzelezz | I know, but you said "it's not so much VPN as it is Windows", so I wondered if perhaps you were using a WTS connection; but it sounds like I don't know how to help you :-p |
| 18:25.17 | ScytheBlade1 | It's entirely possible that your VPN is locked down to only permit RDP over it |
| 18:25.25 | ScytheBlade1 | From the sound of your company, I wouldn't doubt that to be the case |
| 18:25.33 | Shirik | that doesn't make much sense, because I can do anything I want right now |
| 18:25.37 | Shirik | I'm connected to IRC over the vpn |
| 18:25.48 | Shirik | mostly because windows doesn't know how to manage two networks at once |
| 18:25.59 | Shirik | I can ping all the servers from here |
| 18:26.12 | Shirik | We've even played games via vpn |
| 18:26.29 | Shirik | had a lan party at work, someone went home, used the vpn to get back in |
| 18:26.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Assuming your VPN then also gives you open access to every computer on the other side, just open the network share? |
| 18:26.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Assuming it is also on a network share? |
| 18:26.59 | Shirik | that's the thing |
| 18:27.03 | Shirik | I thought I knew the address |
| 18:27.15 | Fisker | tried browsing for it in network places hoho |
| 18:27.31 | Shirik | e.g. it says "N: at foo\bar" on my remote desktop, but when I try to do \\foo\bar I get nothing. BUT I do \\foo\bar on my remote computer and it says the same error |
| 18:27.36 | Shirik | so I'm thinking I have the address wrong or something |
| 18:33.31 | Aelobin | anyone here use spanish WoW by any chance? :P |
| 18:36.07 | Lunessa | Shirik: UNC path to the file? |
| 18:36.15 | Shirik | UNC? |
| 18:36.35 | Fisker | Unified Naming Convention or something like that |
| 18:36.46 | Fisker | i.e. \\computer\ |
| 18:36.53 | Lunessa | Yeah, and I see you tried that. Network discovery must be off for your network |
| 18:37.29 | Lunessa | Looks like RDP is your option. |
| 18:37.53 | Shirik | not really an option >< |
| 18:37.55 | Shirik | I need the file here |
| 18:38.03 | ScytheBlade1 | copy/paste! |
| 18:38.13 | Shirik | can I really do that? o.O |
| 18:38.19 | Lunessa | Yes |
| 18:38.22 | Shirik | wtf |
| 18:38.26 | Lunessa | and drag/drp |
| 18:38.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, RDP shares the clipboard with the host computer |
| 18:38.45 | Fisker | odd |
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| 18:39.05 | Lunessa | No, it makes perfect sense from the end-user perspective. |
| 18:39.07 | Fisker | I've always been able to copy/paste text through RDP |
| 18:39.09 | Fisker | but never files |
| 18:41.21 | Lunessa | AFK In UR Drive-Thru Buying Mah Foodz |
| 18:41.49 | Fisker | i have a drive-thru? |
| 18:41.53 | *** part/#wowuidev Stanzilla_ (n=bs@p54993769.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:52.34 | Aelobin | if i have an addon that's got a local variable called "bob" and bob is set to 0, then i make a function called "incrementBob" where it adds 1 to bob |
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| 18:53.07 | Aelobin | if i then passed "incrementBob" into a global function, and at some point in that it runs "incrementBob" |
| 18:54.31 | Aelobin | would it add 1 to the local "bob" ? |
| 18:54.31 | Mikk | yes |
| 18:54.31 | Mikk | no other bob |
| 18:54.31 | Aelobin | :P |
| 18:54.31 | Aelobin | was confusing me with references again xD |
| 18:54.31 | Mikk | it doesn't matter how the function is called. what matters is where the code actually lives and what variables it has access to. |
| 18:54.31 | Aelobin | lol where it lives :P |
| 18:54.32 | Aelobin | all my addon's have little houses xD |
| 18:54.33 | Shirik | ok Lunessa is lying to me |
| 18:54.33 | Shirik | neither drag/drop nor copy/paste allows me to transfer files |
| 18:54.33 | Aelobin | might need to enable it Shirik |
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| 18:55.04 | Mikk | Entirely depends what your RDP endpoints are |
| 18:55.07 | Mikk | It'll definitely work windows->windows |
| 18:55.15 | Aelobin | oooh bacon sandwich :> |
| 18:55.57 | Shirik | it's windows 7 accessing windows xp |
| 18:58.13 | Fisker | hah Shirik |
| 18:58.15 | tekkub | win7? |
| 18:58.15 | Fisker | knew i was right |
| 18:58.17 | tekkub | http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/windows-help-bug.php |
| 18:58.57 | Shirik | tekkub is slow |
| 18:59.11 | Aelobin | ScytheBlade1: he be stealin ya linkz!! |
| 18:59.24 | ScytheBlade1 | he is |
| 18:59.37 | ScytheBlade1 | also Shirik, if you're really that desperate, why haven't you just e-mailed it to yourself? |
| 18:59.49 | Shirik | it's pretty large |
| 18:59.54 | Aelobin | that's what she said |
| 19:00.52 | NightHawkTheSane | there's no way to exclude a slot from being touched by the built in equipment manager, is there? |
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| 19:05.41 | Aelobin | lua> local x,y = {}, {}; print(x==y) |
| 19:05.41 | lua_bot | Aelobin: false |
| 19:05.47 | Aelobin | gdgd :P |
| 19:06.59 | Fisker | enrages |
| 19:07.48 | Shirik | lua> local s = collectgarbage"count"; local x,y = {}, {}; print(collectgarbage"count" - s) |
| 19:07.48 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0.0625 |
| 19:08.00 | Shirik | lua> local s = collectgarbage"count"; local x,y = newproxy(), newproxy(); print(collectgarbage"count" - s) |
| 19:08.00 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0.0390625 |
| 19:08.04 | Shirik | >.> |
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| 19:16.09 | smoke_ | how do i zoom in on an icon or remove the border from an icon texture? |
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| 19:16.57 | cncfanatics | damn, draenei zone got so much more work put in it then belf zone >.> |
| 19:17.49 | Shirik | why do you say that |
| 19:18.21 | cncfanatics | Quests like the totem chain make me think that |
| 19:18.32 | cncfanatics | Much deeper story & more work put in it imo :p |
| 19:18.59 | Shirik | I always liked the BE zone more |
| 19:19.08 | airtonix | isn;t the belf starting area quests just spread out over a larger area? |
| 19:19.08 | Shirik | I couldn't wait to get out of azuremist |
| 19:19.14 | cncfanatics | Do note, I did the BE zone about 15 times, while this is the first time I do azuremist |
| 19:27.11 | ScytheBlade1 | whoo |
| 19:27.12 | ScytheBlade1 | http://starfeeder.gameriot.com/blogs/The-Starfeed/The-StarCraft-2-Battle-Report-3-leaked |
| 19:27.19 | ScytheBlade1 | youtube links |
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| 19:34.20 | Fisker | not battle report 3 :3 |
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| 19:41.39 | TC-Away | forgets Fisker in the desert. awww |
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| 19:44.17 | cncfanatics | Thunder_Child: I hope you forgot to give him water & food , |
| 19:45.51 | Thunder_Child | cncfanatics, no i rememberd to give him food and water, i simply chose not to |
| 19:46.03 | Fisker | fail Thunder_Child |
| 19:47.15 | cncfanatics | Thunder_Child: you screwed the joke :( |
| 19:47.40 | Shirik | I blame cncfanatics |
| 19:47.47 | Shirik | now I shall go take a shower |
| 19:48.06 | Thunder_Child | is he making you feel dirty Shirik? |
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| 19:55.20 | cncfanatics | yes, I'm making him feel dirty |
| 19:56.51 | Lunessa | Shirik: Windows 7 to Windows XP might be finicky. |
| 19:58.36 | Cruciformer | 'lo all |
| 19:59.18 | Fisker | lies Lunessa |
| 19:59.20 | Fisker | it never worked |
| 19:59.39 | Lunessa | I don't have 7. :P |
| 20:00.00 | Fisker | Or atleast it must be something that can be disabled by the server admin |
| 20:00.08 | ScytheBlade1 | It is |
| 20:00.20 | Fisker | So it probably is |
| 20:00.22 | Lunessa | XP --> Vista can be twitchy, and it even warns so when you connect. |
| 20:00.27 | ScytheBlade1 | You can customize pretty much all of the terminal services permissions as needed |
| 20:01.05 | Fisker | i just remember being so mad about having to e-mail files i need through a webmail service |
| 20:01.14 | Fisker | and then connect to that webmail through the remote desktop |
| 20:01.18 | Fisker | and then download the files |
| 20:02.21 | cncfanatics | Sounds like microsoft(tm) fai |
| 20:02.25 | cncfanatics | s/fai/fail/ |
| 20:06.45 | Fisker | naw cncfanatics |
| 20:08.03 | cncfanatics | Anyone here that plays on ravenrest EU btw ? |
| 20:09.33 | Fisker | sure |
| 20:10.28 | Fisker | some questions are better left unanswered |
| 20:10.29 | Fisker | hoho |
| 20:10.55 | cncfanatics | Naww, just nawww |
| 20:11.11 | Fisker | So who do you play? |
| 20:11.20 | Fisker | jnwhiteh was on ravencrest too |
| 20:11.23 | Fisker | but he pussied out |
| 20:11.49 | cncfanatics | I just rolled a draenei shammy on raven |
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| 20:11.57 | cncfanatics | will see if I like it, dunno yet if I'll keep it up |
| 20:12.14 | Fisker | what level? |
| 20:12.48 | cncfanatics | 10 :D |
| 20:12.54 | cncfanatics | You horde iirc ? |
| 20:13.24 | Fisker | ye |
| 20:13.33 | cncfanatics | Phew |
| 20:13.39 | cncfanatics | What guild ? |
| 20:14.00 | Fisker | eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Fiskerdin |
| 20:14.09 | Fisker | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Fiskerdin |
| 20:14.20 | cncfanatics | Semper Danica, who the hell are they ? :p |
| 20:14.53 | Fisker | A danish guild |
| 20:17.30 | cncfanatics | Danish guilds do ulduar 25 these days ? :o |
| 20:18.14 | Fisker | of course? |
| 20:19.02 | cncfanatics | Bleh, I need to get out of the crapserver mindset, my old realm is total crap |
| 20:19.25 | Fisker | alliance is batshit insane |
| 20:19.37 | Fisker | if you know people you can join pugs that clear to yogg |
| 20:19.47 | alestane | "Denmark Forever"? |
| 20:20.12 | Stanzilla | always danish :P |
| 20:20.15 | Fisker | something like that alestane |
| 20:21.07 | cncfanatics | Fisker: I know noone, but I like to think I'm a good player :D |
| 20:21.52 | Shirik | "ok my uncle hooked up wireless in his lake house it was relly easy BUT u need a god reouter like Netgear or The Link or something i dunno look it up on cnet or something if u want more details. AND dont put ur pcs by the windows or else ur wireless can go out the window and then its lost in space lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll" |
| 20:22.30 | Fisker | wat? |
| 20:23.08 | alestane | Shirik: Who is this person, and how do we ban them from the internet? |
| 20:23.18 | cncfanatics | what alestane said |
| 20:23.21 | Shirik | fortunately this person does not exist |
| 20:23.27 | Shirik | http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/villains-internet-forums.php |
| 20:23.29 | Shirik | pretty awesome |
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| 20:23.39 | cncfanatics | Haha, somethingawful |
| 20:25.44 | cncfanatics | wait, what ? http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/windows-help-bug.php |
| 20:26.07 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1, you should copyright that link |
| 20:30.24 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:31.20 | cncfanatics | slaps Fisker around a lot with a very large Shirik |
| 20:31.26 | Fisker | slaps cncfanatics around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:31.54 | Fisker | so have you started in ashenvale yet? |
| 20:32.09 | cncfanatics | If I did, I wouldn't tell you |
| 20:32.11 | cncfanatics | for obvious reasons |
| 20:32.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: I agree |
| 20:32.49 | Fisker | i don't understand |
| 20:33.10 | Shirik | ok |
| 20:33.15 | Shirik | time to go buy some filters yey |
| 20:33.52 | cncfanatics | Fisker: You're a horde asking a low level alliance if he started in the first pvp enabled zone yet |
| 20:36.14 | Fisker | omg watch out cncfanatics |
| 20:36.35 | cncfanatics | Hmm ? |
| 20:36.47 | Fisker | didn't i just help you with some mobs? :P |
| 20:37.06 | cncfanatics | Bleh, I guess my secret indentityz has been discovered |
| 20:37.06 | Shirik | who came up with the acronym "GM" for Guild Master |
| 20:37.15 | Shirik | that person needs to die |
| 20:37.24 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, go buy your filters |
| 20:37.40 | Shirik | fine bye :< |
| 20:38.14 | Cruciformer | Shirik: My guess would be any number of thousands of people that can spell :) |
| 20:38.18 | cncfanatics | Fisker: How are the horde guilds on ravencrest ? |
| 20:38.33 | Fisker | not that well |
| 20:38.38 | Cruciformer | [G]uild [M]aster :) |
| 20:39.03 | Fisker | Population is like 10000 alliance to 1 horde :( |
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| 20:39.48 | cncfanatics | Population is 54 % alliance & 46% horde actualy Fisker |
| 20:39.58 | cncfanatics | At least that's what wowcensus says |
| 20:40.00 | Fisker | not rly |
| 20:40.40 | Fisker | really obvious when you start hitting the higher levels |
| 20:40.47 | Fisker | There are a billion more raiding alliance guilds |
| 20:40.52 | Fisker | even pugs can clear to yogg |
| 20:41.06 | cncfanatics | Good for me I guess |
| 20:41.08 | Fisker | Most questing areas are crawling with alliance |
| 20:41.10 | cncfanatics | reroll alliance with me ^^ |
| 20:42.27 | Fisker | never |
| 20:42.36 | cncfanatics | I said the same till a while ago |
| 20:50.45 | widgertick | cncfanatics: traitorous dog! |
| 20:51.36 | cncfanatics | wait, what ? |
| 20:51.44 | widgertick | You rerolled alliance :P |
| 20:52.01 | cncfanatics | The only reason I rerolled ally is that I want to play a shammy and cba to do the horde leveling AGAIN |
| 20:52.13 | Thunder_Child | >.< guild name is WoWsketeers |
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| 20:56.11 | Lunessa | cncfanatics: Alliance starting quest for shaman are better anyway |
| 20:56.34 | cncfanatics | Lunessa: they're much much easyer from what I heard |
| 20:56.57 | Lunessa | Better organized, less running to the ends of azeroth |
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| 20:57.31 | cncfanatics | fire was basicly "get a drop from these mobs another quest is gonna have you kill anyway" |
| 21:00.00 | cncfanatics | Fisker: can you help me with group quest at the end of the isles ? |
| 21:02.30 | Lunessa | cncfanatics: Which is way better than "run here, climb this stupid hill, run way over there, kill this thing, climb back up here, have me make something for you to drink, run way over there, find this hidden path, drink the shit, then get told by the fire spirit that upi' |
| 21:02.40 | Lunessa | you suck, but here's your damned totem |
| 21:03.12 | cncfanatics | haha indeed |
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| 21:03.50 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, wasnt your last comment yesterday "goodby for the weekend"? |
| 21:04.05 | Lunessa | As they've gone through the last 5 years, Blizzard has learned a thing or two about making quests suck less. |
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| 21:04.28 | cncfanatics | Thunder_Child: apparently not ? |
| 21:04.30 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: No, it was good night. I'm bored as hell at work today. |
| 21:04.46 | Lunessa | And I'm working an extra day because everyone ELSE is on vacation. |
| 21:04.53 | alestane | Lunessa: It's a subtle distinction, but I'd say generally they've learned how to make quests bite less. |
| 21:05.13 | dardack | can i run GetCompanionInfo("MOUNT", id#) inside wow with like /run script? |
| 21:05.26 | Lunessa | alestane: Let's split the difference... the teeth scrape fewer times. |
| 21:05.40 | Lunessa | dardack: Yes |
| 21:05.47 | dardack | ok does anyone have a magic carpet? |
| 21:05.53 | cncfanatics | I'm at home, doing nothing, waiting for my exam results p |
| 21:05.54 | Thunder_Child | ues |
| 21:05.57 | Thunder_Child | yes* |
| 21:06.35 | dardack | can someone run the GetCompanionInfo("MOUNT", i) for the id of the carpet and tell me the outcome? It seems that some mounts (like the bronze drake from time CoS) have diff names from the tooltip then in the mountinfo |
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| 21:07.41 | Lunessa | I have both the regular and epic versions of the carpet, and I sing a Steppenwolf song every time I mount up. |
| 21:07.51 | dardack | nice |
| 21:08.00 | dardack | i'm trying to get the name GetCOmpanionInfo returns |
| 21:08.01 | alestane | Come along with me little baby? |
| 21:08.06 | Cruciformer | anyone have any experience with tversity? |
| 21:08.07 | cncfanatics | dardack: what name does the bronze drake have ? |
| 21:08.15 | Cruciformer | Lunessa: thats one of my favourite songs :) |
| 21:08.21 | dardack | ok hang on cnc |
| 21:08.21 | Lunessa | Fantasy will set you free. |
| 21:08.46 | Lunessa | Why don't you come with me little girl, on a magic carpet ride. :) |
| 21:08.53 | dardack | tooltip has bronze drake, GetCompanionInfo return bronze drake mount |
| 21:09.02 | dardack | so when someone shift clicks the mount to my addon |
| 21:09.04 | dardack | i have to do a check for it |
| 21:09.06 | Thunder_Child | ya Lunessa, thats not pedo-ish |
| 21:09.10 | Cruciformer | close your eyes girl, look inside girl, let the sun take u awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay |
| 21:09.10 | dardack | someone just posted the magic carpet doesn't work |
| 21:09.20 | dardack | so i'm trying to figure out if it's the same issue |
| 21:09.27 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: Totally not - context is everything. |
| 21:09.32 | cncfanatics | WTB patch 3.2 |
| 21:09.42 | foxlit | "i have to do a check for it" << Hopefully you aren't looking at the name anyway. |
| 21:09.59 | dardack | has the qq died down from conquest things? I'm running every heroic every day for a few days |
| 21:10.11 | dardack | foxlit why? |
| 21:10.11 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, context *is* everything...so that what i went off of |
| 21:10.23 | dardack | i allow them to type it in |
| 21:10.27 | dardack | not just click it in |
| 21:10.51 | foxlit | Because there's a much better identifier attached to the shift-click event. |
| 21:10.57 | cncfanatics | dardack: I'm happy as I'm rerolling and I'll be able to gear up my new main at an ulduar ready level |
| 21:11.04 | dardack | i know cncfanatics |
| 21:12.39 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwDa5dMmfZ4 |
| 21:13.16 | cncfanatics | Lunessa: "This video is not available in your country due to copyright restrictions. " |
| 21:13.21 | foxlit | ^ |
| 21:13.56 | Lunessa | Bummer. I'm rocking it here. US Navy Pilots made a video for it. |
| 21:14.17 | foxlit | google should clearly stop breaking the internets. |
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| 21:14.44 | dardack | ok i try /run script creatureID, creatureName, creatureSpellID, icon, issummoned = GetCompanionInfo("MOUNT", 10) and it doesn't work |
| 21:15.08 | cncfanatics | What does it say dardack ? |
| 21:15.28 | dardack | '=' expected near creatureID |
| 21:15.53 | Cruciformer | put "local" in there |
| 21:16.05 | Cruciformer | local creatureID, .... etc |
| 21:16.05 | foxlit | don't put local in there |
| 21:16.09 | foxlit | get script out of there. |
| 21:16.29 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.29 | Cruciformer | ah good catch my eye glossed over that :) |
| 21:16.31 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.33 | cncfanatics | not /run script |
| 21:16.43 | dardack | thanks |
| 21:16.48 | dardack | just /run wroked |
| 21:16.50 | dardack | worked |
| 21:17.17 | dardack | so can anyone with the carpet run /run creatureID, creatureName, creatureSpellID, icon, issummoned = GetCompanionInfo("MOUNT", 10); print(creatureName) replacing 10 with the id of your carpet? |
| 21:17.20 | dardack | and tell me the output |
| 21:18.18 | alestane | COmpanies who require you to agree to their changed terms of service should be required to highlight the damned changes. |
| 21:18.23 | zenzelezz | if all you want is the name, isn't "/run _,creatureName = ..." enough? |
| 21:18.27 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: agreed |
| 21:18.43 | foxlit | I can tell you the output: there isn't any <3 |
| 21:18.59 | cncfanatics | alestane: that would be counter-productive to their goal >.> |
| 21:19.21 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: though, depending on the company in question, http://www.tosback.org/timeline.php |
| 21:19.43 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a site that watches and then diffs such agreements |
| 21:19.46 | dardack | well how can there not be any |
| 21:21.52 | dardack | oh |
| 21:21.56 | dardack | it's considered a spell now |
| 21:22.00 | dardack | even tho it's in the mount tab |
| 21:22.03 | dardack | wth |
| 21:22.59 | foxlit | You seem very confused. |
| 21:23.45 | dardack | i guess, just read somewhere that when on a carpet you can't Dismount() from it |
| 21:26.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Aren't all of them spells? |
| 21:27.17 | dardack | i guess |
| 21:27.34 | dardack | but GetCompanionInfo doesn't seem to work with carpets |
| 21:28.41 | foxlit | I don't actually have a carpet. |
| 21:28.54 | foxlit | I'm just whining at your code not producing any output :) |
| 21:29.15 | cncfanatics | you might just want to do /dump GetCompanionInfo("MOUNT", i); |
| 21:29.16 | cncfanatics | way simpler |
| 21:29.37 | foxlit | Of course, I'm also being silly and chopping off print() when reading it |
| 21:29.44 | dardack | oh |
| 21:29.51 | foxlit | So nevermind that. |
| 21:30.00 | cncfanatics | omg, 5 hours played and only level 11 |
| 21:30.01 | cncfanatics | slack |
| 21:30.17 | dardack | that's for the /dump |
| 21:30.23 | dardack | still need to find someone with the carpet |
| 21:31.11 | foxlit | I don't see why you'd care -- if you're storing anything other than the summoning spell id, you're probably doing it wrong :) |
| 21:31.33 | cncfanatics | omg |
| 21:31.37 | cncfanatics | This elekk quest, |
| 21:31.40 | cncfanatics | is AWESOME |
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| 21:32.02 | foxlit | (The reasoning being that the summoning spell id is unique, and directly translates to a spell name for casting) |
| 21:32.29 | dardack | foxlit i save the companion ID |
| 21:32.31 | dardack | so i use |
| 21:32.31 | foxlit | cncfanatics: it's unusual, but it's not particularly interesting -- here's a mount, go waste your time running around. |
| 21:32.48 | foxlit | The companion ID, on the other hand, gives you nothing. |
| 21:32.49 | dardack | for example CallCompanion("MOUNT", MountRandomMount.randommountlist["Land"][(random(#MountRandomMount.randommountlist["Land"]))][2]) |
| 21:32.57 | dardack | why? |
| 21:33.12 | cncfanatics | the companion id can change |
| 21:33.14 | dardack | how else are you supposed to call a companion? |
| 21:33.16 | foxlit | Wait, you're storing the GetCompanionInfo index?! |
| 21:33.25 | dardack | i rescan everytime a new mount is learned |
| 21:33.30 | dardack | to update the companion ID |
| 21:33.56 | Fisker | tisser på cncfanatics |
| 21:34.31 | foxlit | I use /cast, personally, but you probably can't get away with that. |
| 21:34.49 | dardack | not in an addon |
| 21:34.56 | dardack | i already have a secure button for druids/shamans |
| 21:35.17 | dardack | i would have to rewrite the entire addon i guess to use casting of the mount instead of callcompanion |
| 21:35.23 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.30 | dardack | but the callcompanion works fine, except according to this person the carpet |
| 21:35.39 | Lunessa | but it's called the Kessel Run you spoilsport. |
| 21:35.41 | dardack | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.50 | foxlit | But anyway, what you're doing doesn't count as storing the companion ID. |
| 21:36.14 | foxlit | Since you store something else to identify companions, and only then cache the index. |
| 21:36.45 | smoke_ | does anyone know how i can remove the border from an icon of a texture? |
| 21:37.31 | dardack | foxlit what do you mean, when a person adds a mount to the random list, it stores the companion ID, if the event learnednewcompanion is triggerd, it than loops through the mounts and updates the new companionID in the list |
| 21:37.58 | foxlit | "updates" << based on what? |
| 21:38.13 | foxlit | How do you know which new indices map to your old indices? |
| 21:38.29 | dardack | creatureName is stored with the ID |
| 21:38.49 | dardack | from the GetCompanionInfo API call |
| 21:39.01 | foxlit | So, basically, you store the creature name rather than any sort of ID. |
| 21:39.27 | foxlit | [I don't consider what you're doing to indices as storing -- it's only transient] |
| 21:39.55 | foxlit | And your probable problem with the carpet is that it's name isn't what people think it is? |
| 21:40.57 | dardack | well i don't understand my /rdm gui pulls the name from the GetCompanionInfo and puts it in the label's text to display it, so i dn't understand why CallCompanion("MOUNT", with the carpets id) doesn't seem to work for the person, wish i had a carpet to test with |
| 21:41.22 | dardack | and why is storing the name transient? has a mount name ever changed? |
| 21:41.38 | foxlit | storing the name isn't transient. Storing the index is. |
| 21:41.55 | dardack | but you need the index to use CallCOmpanion |
| 21:42.43 | foxlit | True. |
| 21:42.53 | foxlit | However, I don't think you save the index in your SVs. |
| 21:44.18 | dardack | it looks like this RND= { ["Land"] = { {"Turbostrider", --[1] 72, -- [2]} } } |
| 21:44.24 | dardack | so it is saving the index |
| 21:44.27 | dardack | it's just |
| 21:44.29 | dardack | when the event |
| 21:44.44 | foxlit | Redundant, then. |
| 21:44.49 | dardack | RegisterEvent("COMPANION_LEARNED") |
| 21:44.52 | foxlit | Since you'll always derive the index from the name. |
| 21:45.32 | dardack | but i would have to loop through the entire mountlist everytime they wanted to mount instead of just lookin g at [2] |
| 21:45.46 | foxlit | "CallCompanion("MOUNT", with the carpets id) doesn't seem to work for the person," << there really shouldn't be anything special about the carpet. You should consider the possibility that you aren't passing the right ID. |
| 21:46.03 | End | ^ |
| 21:46.25 | End | you pass it the 1-GetNum id, not the companion id or spell id |
| 21:47.49 | dardack | i pass it the creatureID, creatureName, creatureSpellID, icon, issummoned = GetCompanionInfo("MOUNT", i) the creatureID |
| 21:48.02 | End | don't pass it that |
| 21:48.04 | End | pass it i |
| 21:48.12 | dardack | no sorry |
| 21:48.14 | dardack | your right i |
| 21:48.16 | dardack | i do that |
| 21:48.21 | dardack | it works for everymount i have |
| 21:48.29 | dardack | and i have over 80 mounts |
| 21:48.33 | dardack | just no carpet or headlesshorseman |
| 21:48.35 | Cruciformer | if you pass it i why do you need the name? |
| 21:48.48 | foxlit | Cruciformer: he needs the name to get the index. |
| 21:48.54 | dardack | correct |
| 21:49.01 | dardack | when the event is trigger |
| 21:49.05 | dardack | companionID's change |
| 21:49.06 | End | well, I dunno, maybe you aren't a tailor ;-p |
| 21:49.09 | Cruciformer | *nod* ok .. Im only half paying attention while I sort tversity crap out :) |
| 21:49.11 | dardack | i know i'm not a tailor |
| 21:49.29 | End | you're talking about the carpet, right? |
| 21:49.31 | dardack | oh well i'll have him /dump GetCompanionINfo on it |
| 21:49.34 | dardack | and give me the output |
| 21:49.45 | dardack | yea |
| 21:50.02 | End | you need to be a tailor to use the carpet |
| 21:50.31 | foxlit | End: He doesn't have a carpet, either. |
| 21:50.39 | End | now I'm confused |
| 21:50.52 | End | oooooh |
| 21:50.53 | foxlit | There's a third person for whom dardack's addon fails to work. |
| 21:50.57 | End | I misread? |
| 21:51.20 | dardack | there's a third? |
| 21:51.21 | End | he doesn't have the carpet or headless horseman? |
| 21:51.23 | End | is that it? |
| 21:51.30 | dardack | kinda |
| 21:51.38 | foxlit | third as in "third party" |
| 21:51.47 | dardack | i have a lot of days to get the last 4 argent mounts |
| 21:51.56 | dardack | oh and no ashes of alar yet |
| 21:51.57 | End | this is what I get for jumping into coversations randomly |
| 21:52.31 | dardack | but betwween my toons i have almost all the random mount drops, oh and no red from aq40 yet, but haven't put in a check for AQ to use those yet anyways |
| 21:53.17 | foxlit | But, um. |
| 21:53.21 | foxlit | Store the creatureid |
| 21:53.23 | foxlit | Or the spellid |
| 21:53.29 | foxlit | Not creatureName |
| 21:53.46 | dardack | foxlit: does it matter that much? |
| 21:54.18 | foxlit | Slightly. Spell IDs are easy to look up, creature names are not. |
| 21:54.37 | foxlit | I think your problem is that your addon fails to resolve whatever name you give it for the flying carpet into an index |
| 21:54.54 | dardack | if they use the GUI it takes it right from GetCompanionInfo |
| 21:56.50 | zenzelezz | "Choice... the problem is choice" |
| 21:58.58 | dardack | anyways, i just read that someone in their mount macro, it wouldn't /dismount on the carpet |
| 21:59.14 | dardack | so to me I don't know if CallCompanion would work on it is my dilemna |
| 21:59.15 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: Too many Matrix movies for you! Your sentenced to an all day marathon of Keanu Reeves movies. |
| 21:59.46 | zenzelezz | NOOOOO! |
| 21:59.53 | End | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.14 | dardack | ok that's good |
| 22:00.45 | dardack | they fixed that then |
| 22:04.23 | Aelobin | does arena count as "outdoors" regarding ghost wolf/travel form ? |
| 22:04.36 | End | should |
| 22:04.43 | End | except dalaran for now |
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| 22:12.45 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out until Monday. Ciao. |
| 22:27.09 | bleeter | cog|sleep: baaa |
| 22:27.44 | bleeter | kd3, Shirik: remember my bitch about the inexcusability of bugs appearng, etc.? I give you bugged Fire Festival events! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17900022905&sid=1 |
| 22:28.44 | bleeter | kd3, Shirik: Going on past Blizz responses to 'Oceanic only' bug reports, we're all imagining it at the moment... ie, it's not a real bug until it hits EU/US |
| 22:28.47 | Fisker | slaps bleeter around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:28.54 | bleeter | mmm fishy |
| 22:29.28 | Fisker | why so owned? |
| 22:30.20 | Fisker | Well wasn't Oceanic server times adjust not that long ago? |
| 22:30.51 | bleeter | thing that gets me is forum GM tells users to go out and freakin find the data for themselves |
| 22:31.00 | bleeter | how much will blizz pay me for my debug? |
| 22:33.04 | Fisker | Well what's that to do with oceanic? :o |
| 22:33.57 | bleeter | time related bugs usually hit us first, and blizz's standard response is usually that there's nothing wrong... or that for whatever reason they can't log into the realms themselves and actually look with their own eyes, etc. |
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| 22:54.15 | airtonix | hit cap for melee is standard before talents considered? |
| 22:56.19 | Jelly__ | yes, afaik |
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| 23:04.38 | End | aww |
| 23:04.43 | End | nobody wants to kill a minnow |
| 23:06.19 | Thunder_Child | kills a minnow |
| 23:07.07 | foxlit | http://images.google.com/images?q=%22CHEW%20THE%20BITTER%20TOWELETTE%20OF%20TRUTH%22 |
| 23:07.15 | foxlit | I just don't see how that search matches the images :/ |
| 23:08.46 | Thunder_Child | foxlit, the phrase has something to do with facepalms |
| 23:09.01 | Corrodias | i presume it has something to do with tfproject.org |
| 23:09.07 | Corrodias | all of the matches are from that site. |
| 23:09.32 | Thunder_Child | one of the people on that forum has that sig thats why |
| 23:09.56 | foxlit | poor google. |
| 23:10.03 | foxlit | Overwhelmed by the semantic noise :( |
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| 23:12.04 | foxlit | (the actual source is jPod) |
| 23:12.07 | mikma | nsfw, comedyvalue++ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfizyEmoM-c |
| 23:12.59 | foxlit | sad++ |
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| 23:28.11 | foxlit | ohgodmyeyesmakeitstopcurseforge. |
| 23:28.44 | Ersan | yes. |
| 23:29.58 | Thunder_Child | i dont mind curse |
| 23:31.14 | foxlit | It's curse forge rather than curse that I'm cursing at. |
| 23:31.25 | Thunder_Child | ...obviously thats what i meant |
| 23:31.38 | foxlit | And you've been there lately? |
| 23:31.44 | Thunder_Child | i just went |
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| 23:32.02 | foxlit | Hm. The issue is more dire than I thought! |
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| 23:32.37 | foxlit | [but seriously -- the background greys are too light, and the gradients are just pointless] |
| 23:33.43 | End | hm |
| 23:33.50 | End | well, it's themable |
| 23:34.02 | foxlit | I've now been through all of those |
| 23:34.28 | End | haha @ bleeding eyes |
| 23:34.28 | foxlit | Several are light reskins of wowace |
| 23:34.50 | foxlit | (which probably isn't bad by itself -- it's just a matter of whether I want a light or dark thing) |
| 23:34.59 | foxlit | Kaelten's is actually the most bearable. |
| 23:35.08 | foxlit | Except for the red. |
| 23:35.43 | foxlit | [ohgodtextboxes!] |
| 23:36.47 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/box/forge.png << yikes |
| 23:40.08 | Legorol | Yes! Finally, killed Yogg-Saron! woohoo. (granted, on 10-man) |
| 23:40.11 | Legorol | sorry, had to share it |
| 23:40.23 | End | gratz |
| 23:40.32 | Legorol | what a fun fight, i really like it |
| 23:40.44 | Legorol | there are some Ulduar fights that are a pain but I think Yogg-Saron is nice |
| 23:41.09 | foxlit | If people know what they're doing, is any fight really a pain? |
| 23:41.20 | Thunder_Child | i think mimiron is a PITA |
| 23:41.38 | Thunder_Child | even knowing it, it is iritating to me |
| 23:41.45 | End | I dread firefighter |
| 23:41.49 | End | but regular mode seems easy |
| 23:41.52 | End | although it's funny |
| 23:42.02 | End | we thought 10man was really hard, then we kill 25man, and now 10man seems trivial |
| 23:42.39 | widgertick | xD |
| 23:56.23 | Zyndrome | Firefighter ... we've done it once on 10-man, and now been at him for several days trying to do it again |
