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| 00:15.19 | KarlKFI | good question |
| 00:17.21 | Thunder_Child | i thought so, since i start out with that because of vindication |
| 00:24.59 | Thunder_Child | KarlKFI, i think this is going to be my pvp/pve ret build http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZiGzhMZifrxbhhGdIbsu:VhZzM0 |
| 00:25.29 | Thunder_Child | there really isnt a huge diff between the 2 |
| 00:25.33 | KarlKFI | close to mine |
| 00:26.54 | KarlKFI | i take Sanct Ret, command, crusade, only 1 in heart, no parry |
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| 00:34.30 | Ackis | ~rlart |
| 00:34.30 | purl | does a little 'renice 20 -u Torhal' |
| 00:35.08 | Thunder_Child | KarlKFI, i dunno, i really dont like crusade...thats 3% more dmg from everything in return for 3% more dmg to 3 specific types of mobs |
| 00:36.10 | KarlKFI | sounds liek the heart of ret |
| 00:36.15 | KarlKFI | do dmg, take dmg |
| 00:36.28 | KarlKFI | do more dmg, take more dmg |
| 00:36.46 | KarlKFI | Sacrifice, Martyr.... |
| 00:36.57 | Thunder_Child | but that is everything to everything |
| 00:37.03 | Thunder_Child | not everything to some |
| 00:37.41 | KarlKFI | most bosses are 1 of those 4, neh? |
| 00:38.21 | KarlKFI | plus parry is useless against spells |
| 00:38.32 | KarlKFI | which is most group dmg in raids |
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| 00:38.59 | KarlKFI | plus i think you missread crusade |
| 00:39.20 | KarlKFI | 3% dmg to ALL, +3% additional dmg to those 4 |
| 00:39.24 | Thunder_Child | ya, i missed humans for some reason |
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| 00:40.02 | KarlKFI | so it's 3% dmg even in pvp, and 6% dmg to most raid bosses |
| 00:40.09 | Thunder_Child | it sounds like 3% taken not caused |
| 00:40.16 | KarlKFI | no |
| 00:40.39 | KarlKFI | Increases all damage caused by 3% and all damage caused against Humanoids, Demons, Undead and Elementals by an additional 3%. |
| 00:40.40 | Thunder_Child | well thats how it sounded to me |
| 00:41.20 | KarlKFI | Read: "Increases all damage caused BY YOU by 3% and all damage caused BY YOU against Humanoids, Demons, Undead and Elementals by an additional 3%." |
| 00:41.46 | KarlKFI | if it were against you it would say "damage taken" |
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| 00:42.39 | Thunder_Child | agreed, but i think they could have worded it slightly better |
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| 00:42.52 | KarlKFI | possibly |
| 00:43.23 | Maldivia | hmm |
| 00:44.04 | KarlKFI | Increases your damage by 3% and your damage to Humanoids, Demons, Undead and Elementals by an additional 3% |
| 00:45.06 | Thunder_Child | they could keep it the same and stick 'you' after 'by' and it would sound a bit clearer |
| 00:45.15 | Thunder_Child | though odd perhaps |
| 00:46.39 | Thunder_Child | and why do they use both 'critical strike' and 'critical hit'....they are the same arent they? |
| 00:47.08 | KarlKFI | yes |
| 00:47.17 | Superbia | no offence, but isn't the tooltips the only thing left in WoW that really requires you think just a little? |
| 00:47.33 | KarlKFI | ~lart Superbia |
| 00:47.33 | purl | crushes Superbia with a full height scsi disk |
| 00:47.53 | Superbia | sweet ^^ |
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| 00:48.09 | KarlKFI | i could see them saying "a critical hit" vs "your critical strike [rating]" |
| 00:49.13 | Superbia | isn't critical strike an attack in the air which has not yet been decided of it lands or not while critical hit is just that, a landed blow? that would atleast make some sense |
| 00:51.14 | Thunder_Child | how exactly? |
| 00:51.25 | Thunder_Child | since they would still be influencing the same thing |
| 00:52.41 | Superbia | well I didn't get the context you were talking about, but something that procs on critical strikes wouldn't need you to land the blow for it to have a proc chance while proccing on critical hit would need you to acctually land the blow before you have a chance for it to proc |
| 00:53.02 | Tem | Oh god damnit, UPS |
| 00:53.23 | Superbia | are they late again? :S |
| 00:53.54 | Thunder_Child | Superbia, i was refering to talents that increas the chance |
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| 00:55.13 | Superbia | well in that case it's someone having problems choosing has formulations :P |
| 00:57.00 | Thunder_Child | it may be a grammar thing since it's 'critical strike' and 'critically hit' |
| 00:57.16 | Thunder_Child | but i would think they are interchangeable |
| 00:58.01 | Superbia | I don't think there is any grammatical error in wording it like that... but I would think it's against the unwritten rules :) |
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| 01:04.16 | purl | ~pong |
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| 01:08.06 | tekkub | *mumble* you know, the fact that the blizzy calendar doesn't respect the "show local time" setting on their clock is it's only fail now |
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| 01:08.54 | Superbia | yeah... we are usually half way throu a raid when it says raid in 15 min :\ |
| 01:12.25 | Superbia | WCM should invest in better servers again... |
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| 02:12.24 | Thunder_Child | rather slow day for a wednesday |
| 02:21.54 | Shirik|Ghost | ~wiki 53595 |
| 02:22.04 | Shirik|Ghost | !g 53595 |
| 02:22.05 | batbot | Shirik|Ghost: Left 53595 Dead <http://www.1fort.com/blog/left-53595-dead/> |
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| 02:26.50 | Thunder_Child | is that a spoof on Left 4 Dead? |
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| 02:28.26 | Shirik|Ghost | no, it's an achievement in l4d |
| 02:28.32 | Shirik|Ghost | "Kill 53595 zombies" |
| 02:28.51 | Shirik|Ghost | and I was trying to figure out what the number came from |
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| 02:30.10 | Gngsk | Shirik|Ghost, http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=937407&topic=47411839 |
| 02:30.17 | Shirik|Ghost | yes I figured it out |
| 02:30.46 | Gngsk | ZeroX91's reply on that thread is priceless |
| 02:37.42 | Corrodias | smirk |
| 02:42.42 | alestane | Ooh...any history book? |
| 02:43.14 | Shirik|Ghost | ? |
| 02:43.52 | alestane | "ZeroX91: Its the number of people killed in the Holocaust read a history book people." |
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| 02:44.37 | Shirik|Ghost | I would be extremely surprised if anyone had a real count of the number of people killed in the holocaust |
| 02:44.50 | End | my count is a lot |
| 02:45.12 | alestane | Up there with http://xkcd.com/202/ |
| 02:53.20 | Kraps | wtb this ingame model of jaina http://cocoasweety.deviantart.com/art/Jaina-Proudmoore-62189924 |
| 02:54.35 | Iriel | I always liked the 'orginal' female mage model |
| 02:54.50 | Iriel | (the one in illustrations, i'm not sure it ever got in game) |
| 02:54.57 | alestane | It's pretty, but she looks too "tweeny"...her voice is way more amture than that, at least in WoW. The WC3 sounds a little less experienced. |
| 02:55.18 | alestane | mature* |
| 02:55.39 | Iriel | alestane: agreed |
| 02:55.55 | Kraps | its just the current ingame faces of jaina and arthas are BAD |
| 02:56.34 | alestane | Arthas has a current in-game face? All I ever see is that big helmet? |
| 02:57.18 | Kraps | heh i mean young arthas |
| 02:57.36 | Shirik|Ghost | anyone here used webkit? Does it support flash or do I need to somehow get it to work? |
| 02:58.21 | Shirik|Ghost | My searches seem to indicate it does, but I don't see anything about it on their site |
| 03:00.06 | NightHawkTheSane | it should implicitly |
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| 03:12.24 | Kraps | once i have the gems for the meta should i just go +16 str in all the other slots? arms pvp warrior |
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| 03:15.25 | Shirik|Ghost | omg I missed http://xkcd.com/591/ |
| 03:15.25 | Shirik|Ghost | that's pretty win |
| 03:16.21 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 03:19.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Kraps: unless you still need to hit the special hit cap yes |
| 03:19.30 | Thunder_Child | i dunno....they might like it if the flamebait came to them instead of having to go places |
| 03:19.33 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: its the same 5% right? |
| 03:20.19 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 03:20.27 | NightHawkTheSane | 8% on boss level mobs |
| 03:20.44 | Kraps | yeah right |
| 03:20.58 | Kraps | kinda tough |
| 03:21.18 | Kraps | pvp gear |
| 03:21.34 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, well pvp is 5%, but fuck pvp |
| 03:21.38 | Kraps | lol |
| 03:21.47 | Kraps | i like it |
| 03:22.17 | Kraps | but i dont want to have to drag around a 3rd set for pve dps |
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| 03:23.54 | End | slaps Shriki E. Coli around with a small trout. |
| 03:24.13 | End | HI SHRIKI |
| 03:26.09 | Shirik|Ghost | bans the impostor |
| 03:26.33 | Fisker- | slaps Shirik|Ghost around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:26.42 | Shirik|Ghost | hi Fisker- |
| 03:27.11 | Fisker- | I need bigger balls |
| 03:27.47 | Shirik|Ghost | have you tried michael's? |
| 03:27.53 | Shirik|Ghost | They tend to have good christmas deals this time of year |
| 03:28.02 | Fisker- | slaps Shirik|Ghost around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:28.08 | Fisker- | you will reveal your secrets |
| 03:28.31 | Thunder_Child | ZorbaTHut, QH hates me :( |
| 03:34.16 | Thunder_Child | heh http://xkcd.com/583/ |
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| 03:46.26 | kd3 | grrs at a clean install of minion still not detecting addons properly until after the first run |
| 03:47.19 | Shirik|Ghost | huh? |
| 03:47.31 | Shirik|Ghost | there should be no difference between the first and second run |
| 03:47.35 | End | ckknight: any reason libdogtags would be creating a lot of garbage? |
| 03:47.57 | ckknight | End: because it makes a lot of strings, and those are interned and gc'd in lua |
| 03:47.59 | Thunder_Child | End, as if thats not a an intro to a bad joke |
| 03:48.35 | End | I got a guildie complaining about huge jumps in memory |
| 03:48.41 | kd3 | the first time it shows all of the folders (atlas_foo et al), then I log in using my premium account and it shows actual addons, not folders. it's still trying to update 2/3 of my mods |
| 03:48.50 | Fisker- | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:48.51 | kd3 | restarts the core without dumping his config |
| 03:49.03 | End | I actually noticed it personally, but only as of recently |
| 03:49.28 | End | my answer was to not have it disembedded so that pitbull gets all the blame :P |
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| 03:50.43 | Shirik|Ghost | kd3, a log would be helpful for that |
| 03:50.49 | Shirik|Ghost | it should say why the folders are being skipped |
| 03:52.01 | kd3 | http://wowi.pastey.net/115359 |
| 03:52.35 | kd3 | I log in and close the options window at 23:45:36ish, which restarts the wowi component |
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| 03:53.41 | kd3 | er, rather, at 23:46:31 |
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| 03:58.52 | Lothaer | afternoon guys and gals |
| 03:59.03 | Corrodias | yo. |
| 03:59.16 | Thunder_Child | yo? |
| 03:59.30 | Corrodias | yo yo ball! |
| 03:59.34 | Corrodias | it's so much fun and easy to do |
| 03:59.39 | Corrodias | 'cause wherever it goes, it comes back to you |
| 03:59.41 | Thunder_Child | ~stab Corrodias |
| 03:59.42 | purl | ACTION runs at Corrodias with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 03:59.44 | Lothaer | lol |
| 04:00.00 | Lothaer | so whats new? |
| 04:00.32 | Thunder_Child | many things |
| 04:00.41 | Lothaer | k... |
| 04:01.21 | Cairenn | Happy Birthday Iriel! |
| 04:01.42 | Lothaer | grats on the level up Iriel |
| 04:01.51 | Thunder_Child | you know Cairenn, the elderly do not like to be reminded of their age |
| 04:02.19 | Iriel | No new skills at this level unfortunately, not sure what i'll spend my talent on |
| 04:02.23 | Lothaer | if your less than 50 yrs you got nothing to complain about :D |
| 04:02.42 | Lothaer | -1 to mobility |
| 04:02.44 | Lothaer | :D |
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| 04:02.51 | Iriel | I have a few to go before that, yes |
| 04:02.58 | Lothaer | rofl |
| 04:03.32 | Ackis | Cairenn: get my msn earlier? |
| 04:03.43 | Cairenn | Ackis: I think so |
| 04:03.53 | Cairenn | I don't remember right now :p |
| 04:03.53 | Lothaer | asl eveyone :D |
| 04:03.54 | Ackis | ~rlart |
| 04:03.55 | purl | moos at Iriel |
| 04:03.57 | Ackis | haha |
| 04:04.05 | Ackis | man I'm wining with randoms today |
| 04:04.35 | Cairenn | Ackis: actually, it'd be more correct to say that "yes, I got your msn", but I don't remember what it was about |
| 04:04.43 | Cairenn | sorry =/ |
| 04:04.46 | Thunder_Child | s/asl/adsl/ |
| 04:04.59 | Ackis | lol |
| 04:05.06 | Ackis | wanted to know if there's daily dl stats for wowinterface |
| 04:05.10 | Cairenn | right |
| 04:05.14 | Cairenn | no, there isn't, sorry |
| 04:05.17 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: 6M/1.5M |
| 04:05.36 | Ackis | Cairenn: kk... another one of the mods I'm working on got featured today lol |
| 04:05.40 | Ackis | IHML :D |
| 04:05.46 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, ooo, i want your up |
| 04:05.52 | Cairenn | Ackis: nice :) |
| 04:06.06 | Lothaer | link Ackis |
| 04:06.42 | Ackis | http://www.wow.com/2009/06/03/addon-spotlight-i-have-macro-lol/ and http://www.wow.com/2009/05/31/addon-spotlight-ackis-recipe-list/ |
| 04:07.02 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: Sadly it has a bad habit of negotiating down |
| 04:07.16 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: Then I have to restart my router to get it back |
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| 04:07.50 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, it's still better than the 300K and change i have....seeing as i have the same down as you |
| 04:08.11 | Iriel | I'm at 600K right now, so yeah |
| 04:08.36 | ReAn | ZorbaTHut: Ping? |
| 04:11.37 | Fisker- | cool story bro |
| 04:13.19 | Lothaer | 1500K/256K is what im on |
| 04:14.08 | kd3 | better than me... 1.5/128 |
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| 04:14.43 | Lothaer | the best i can get (if i could afford it) is a 24MB connection |
| 04:15.46 | Mr_Rabies | 6mbit/512 max, but in practice about 3-4mbit/512 :( |
| 04:17.44 | Kraps | sometimes i wish my wheelchair had auto-run |
| 04:17.54 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:18.23 | Lothaer | yeah the best deal with my provider is ADSL2+ speeds (24000/1000) 160GB downloads p/m $109.95 p/m |
| 04:20.03 | Fisker- | i hate you Ackis |
| 04:20.43 | Thunder_Child | faster D/L speeds are silly when you have a cap. imo |
| 04:20.55 | Ackis | y? |
| 04:21.23 | kd3 | indeed. I'd hit the cap that much quicker |
| 04:21.34 | Thunder_Child | ^^ |
| 04:21.52 | Arrowmaster | i dont think i have a cap but i do have a fake cap |
| 04:22.22 | Arrowmaster | when i hit the fake cap i get a phone call asking if i would like to upgrade my service to roadrunner turbo |
| 04:22.51 | Arrowmaster | like within 24 hours |
| 04:23.54 | Thunder_Child | and then you get the bill.... |
| 04:24.03 | Arrowmaster | no i dont |
| 04:24.41 | Arrowmaster | hmm ive been slacking, only 36GB for the last 30 days |
| 04:25.04 | Lothaer | yeah i hate having a cap |
| 04:25.11 | Lothaer | and i gotta pay through the nose |
| 04:25.20 | Lothaer | afaik there is no cap for USA |
| 04:25.31 | Arrowmaster | comcast has a cap |
| 04:25.39 | Arrowmaster | its like 250GB though |
| 04:25.41 | Kraps | see, why cant jaina look at least as good as http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=33220#screenshots:id=126577 |
| 04:26.34 | Arrowmaster | looking at my usage logs in my router you can tell exactly when i stoped using bittorrent heavly |
| 04:33.26 | Thunder_Child | i think comcast only has a cap in like 3 states or somesuch |
| 04:33.54 | MentalPower | 40GB download cap here... and $17/10GB over... |
| 04:35.30 | Lothaer | i have a 80GB cap but its devided to 40GB on peak and 40GB off peak |
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| 04:41.05 | Gnarfoz | sounds reasonable... |
| 04:41.09 | Gnarfoz | not! lol |
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| 04:41.35 | MentalPower | caps are the devil, but DPI is worse IMO |
| 04:42.53 | Gnarfoz | dots per inch? |
| 04:43.02 | MentalPower | Deep Packet Inspection |
| 04:43.12 | Gnarfoz | what the |
| 04:44.10 | MentalPower | basically limiting bandwidth based on what's actually going down the wire |
| 04:44.36 | Lothaer | so the more your downloading the slower you go? |
| 04:44.38 | MentalPower | ie HTTP is uncapped, but bittorrent is limited to 10KB/s or so |
| 04:45.01 | kd3 | sandvine is eeeeevil |
| 04:46.01 | Gnarfoz | MentalPower: sounds awesome |
| 04:46.16 | Shirik|Ghost | or like my school |
| 04:46.33 | Shirik|Ghost | and their awesom decision to throttle any connections to sites without a www in their name |
| 04:46.48 | kd3 | the hell? |
| 04:46.56 | MentalPower | wow, that's... impressive... |
| 04:47.03 | Shirik|Ghost | the best part is it even throttles our own school's sites |
| 04:47.18 | Shirik|Ghost | since a lot of them use <subdomain>.erau.edu |
| 04:47.23 | kd3 | I think I'd throttle my school's IT head if they tried a stunt like that |
| 04:47.43 | kd3 | not that I have to deal with school's dumbass IT department any more |
| 04:49.09 | Fisker- | slaps Shirik|Ghost around a bit with a large trout |
| 04:49.11 | Fisker- | balls |
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| 04:53.21 | Lothaer | hey shirik you there? |
| 04:53.45 | DWSR | Anyone know if EBB has an icons only mode where you can put the timers right on the icons? |
| 04:54.16 | Shirik|Ghost | Lothaer, depends |
| 04:54.37 | Fisker- | he won't tell you how to get larger balls |
| 04:54.42 | Fisker- | presumably because he doesn't know |
| 04:54.54 | Lothaer | kk, some how after running minion just now i got another addons i didnt have to begin with called Guild Alliance |
| 04:55.20 | Lothaer | any idea how/why minion decided i needed it when it hasnt been updated since 2.4? |
| 04:55.28 | Shirik|Ghost | http://www.mmoui.com/bugs/view.php?id=109 |
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| 04:58.07 | Fisker- | goodbye Shirik |
| 04:58.13 | JaggaJatt | hey guys |
| 04:58.16 | Shirik|Ghost | hello Fisker- |
| 04:58.19 | JaggaJatt | I just upgraded my account from trial to standard |
| 04:58.24 | JaggaJatt | Any idea how long it'll take? |
| 04:59.27 | JaggaJatt | Also had a question basically, if im in someones guild/group and I kill some wild beast (grind) the EXP how is it shared? Does it depend on how much the other person contributes? or is it automatically Half? |
| 05:01.47 | Shirik|Ghost | neither |
| 05:01.50 | Shirik|Ghost | it's dependent upon levels |
| 05:02.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Did you upgrade online? |
| 05:02.09 | Gnarfoz | only if the gap is wide enough |
| 05:02.16 | JaggaJatt | Thanks |
| 05:02.19 | JaggaJatt | ScytheBlade1 : yes I did |
| 05:02.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Up to 72 hours for all of the restrictions to be removed |
| 05:02.39 | Gnarfoz | if it's below the "minimum distance", no penalties apply |
| 05:03.18 | Gnarfoz | and it's simply halved at two, starting from 3 you get a group bonus afaik (still being split by number of group members) |
| 05:03.32 | JaggaJatt | Alright, some1 added me to a group randomly ( i think trial settings still there ) How do I find out who he is :E? |
| 05:03.37 | JaggaJatt | k |
| 05:05.08 | JaggaJatt | Bah, I also wanna get 1 of those Animals you can ride on, im a druid at level 16 :E any chance of that happening soon? |
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| 05:06.48 | Gnarfoz | level 30 |
| 05:07.08 | Shirik|Ghost | I wish you could ride druids |
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| 05:10.14 | JaggaJatt | I wish I could ride Those flying things constantly |
| 05:10.18 | JaggaJatt | :( |
| 05:15.28 | Gnarfoz | from level 70 on ;) |
| 05:16.02 | Shirik|Ghost | not really |
| 05:16.35 | Shirik|Ghost | from 70 until you go to northrend |
| 05:19.16 | Xinhuan | Shirik|Ghost |
| 05:20.05 | Gnarfoz | ah, well |
| 05:20.18 | Gnarfoz | do the loaner mounts work without CWF btw? |
| 05:20.36 | Xinhuan | you sighed 3 hours ago, what was it about? |
| 05:20.37 | Shirik|Ghost | ? |
| 05:22.09 | Shirik|Ghost | your commit message |
| 05:22.21 | Shirik|Ghost | more specifically, the lack of message in your commit message |
| 05:22.48 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 05:22.50 | Shirik|Ghost | I tend to want to hurt people who put down "fixed shit" instead of "fixed <what the problem was>", especially if working on my team |
| 05:23.13 | Shirik|Ghost | or "Database works now" |
| 05:23.17 | Shirik|Ghost | ^ true commit |
| 05:23.30 | Shirik|Ghost | that was what I started getting after I started blocking empty commit messages |
| 05:23.41 | Xinhuan | what was wrong with "Fix /bigb help text."? |
| 05:23.43 | Shirik|Ghost | that's when I just started removing people's access |
| 05:23.57 | Shirik|Ghost | What was wrong with it; what did you change |
| 05:24.03 | Shirik|Ghost | example |
| 05:24.16 | Xinhuan | it was trying to print nil globals |
| 05:25.34 | Shirik|Ghost | sighs at slow downloading of logs |
| 05:26.17 | Shirik|Ghost | Bad example: "Fixed security manager" |
| 05:26.23 | Shirik|Ghost | Good example: "Fixed an issue where the security manager was not prepared to handle a RuntimePermission request of "canOpenURLs" -- this is now handled as a privileged request only available in untainted contexts." |
| 05:26.32 | Shirik|Ghost | Admittedly, I'm usually more verbose than I need to be |
| 05:27.01 | Shirik|Ghost | But I tend to say that it should be at least recognizable what the problem was, or what was changed (not necessarily both) |
| 05:27.02 | Xinhuan | i can see how descriptive and verbose messages are useful in a multi-author project |
| 05:27.21 | Xinhuan | but for a 1-man project, it doesn't really need to be that verbose |
| 05:27.40 | Shirik|Ghost | I would argue that curious users (i.e., me) would also like to knwo |
| 05:27.43 | Shirik|Ghost | know* |
| 05:27.50 | Shirik|Ghost | but it's up to you |
| 05:27.54 | Shirik|Ghost | it's just a pet peeve of mine |
| 05:39.57 | Iriel | Just to add to Shirik's comments... |
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| 05:40.11 | Iriel | Verbose messages are really useful when you come back to your code LATER |
| 05:40.29 | Iriel | I'm still actively maintaining code I wrote 5+ years ago, those long messages can be a godsend |
| 05:44.04 | Iriel | (That isn't to say I dont sometimes commit with things like "Fixed stupid encoding bug") |
| 05:44.16 | Bruners | but do you need to go back 4 years and look at a change? |
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| 05:44.24 | Iriel | Sometimes |
| 05:44.35 | Iriel | Generally if you're trying to work out why a block of code is the way it is because it may not be right |
| 05:44.47 | Iriel | it's handy to see when it was added/modified, especially if it wasn't part of the "orginal" version |
| 05:45.17 | Shirik|Ghost | svn blame can take you back a long way :) |
| 05:45.34 | Iriel | I prefer referring to it as 'svn annotate' -- but yes |
| 05:45.50 | Shirik|Ghost | nah |
| 05:45.56 | Shirik|Ghost | svn blame or svn praise |
| 05:46.01 | Shirik|Ghost | never between shall meet |
| 05:46.07 | Iriel | Must be the neutral english in me |
| 05:46.23 | Shirik|Ghost | you either want to see why it is because someone jacked something up or because someone did something awesome :) |
| 05:46.35 | Shirik|Ghost | (usually it's the former >.>) |
| 05:46.40 | Iriel | Agreed |
| 05:48.14 | Shirik|Ghost | I need to find the equivalent in perforce, though |
| 05:48.41 | Iriel | Hm.. all this talk of code makes me want to go work on something I was doing earlier, when instead I should go to bed |
| 05:49.22 | Wobin | blah |
| 05:49.36 | Wobin | I've been disconnecting more when logging in/out/zoning |
| 05:49.38 | Wobin | since the patch |
| 05:49.41 | Wobin | or since Chrome2 |
| 05:49.57 | Shirik|Ghost | go to sleep and take a whack at it tomomrrow morning :) |
| 05:49.57 | Shirik|Ghost | that's what I intend to do |
| 05:50.23 | Iriel | I have meetings tomorrow morning, I guess i'll take the laptop to them and hope I get lucky (i.e. they dont require my attention) |
| 05:51.17 | Iriel | And with that, i'm out of here. |
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| 06:03.45 | msou| | Top of the morning lads |
| 06:04.23 | msou| | Wobin: "My powers have doubled since the last time count" |
| 06:05.03 | msou| | Thanks to you =) |
| 06:05.20 | msou| | Got my sword yesterday and my hit rating went up dramatically |
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| 06:07.56 | Wobin | woot |
| 06:08.25 | msou| | I still have to work on getting better rings, back and few things.. hopefully from naxx by sunday |
| 06:09.26 | msou| | I just have this guy that I used to quest with back in lvl 60. he asks me what to do and "guide" me and when I suggest something he wants to prove otherwise.. my problem is that I cannot be rude and say why do you even ask if you already know the answer |
| 06:09.39 | batrick | Shirik|Ghost: ping |
| 06:10.08 | msou| | And I told him since he got to lvl 80 yesterday do heroics and be careful you will get kicked etc.. he was second last as dps |
| 06:10.34 | msou| | I get either at 1 or second =) and I don't mean to brag |
| 06:10.48 | msou| | I can brag about "Gigantique" :P |
| 06:11.11 | msou| | I bought two of haris pilton's bag |
| 06:11.18 | msou| | Crazy :/ |
| 06:11.27 | msou| | 2400G burned |
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| 06:15.43 | tekkub | Cairenn fuuuuuuuuuuuck |
| 06:15.50 | Cairenn | tekkub: heh |
| 06:15.51 | tekkub | I don't have time to read all that |
| 06:15.56 | Cairenn | so don't |
| 06:16.02 | Cairenn | bottom line - I've had it |
| 06:16.03 | tekkub | you know I can't not |
| 06:19.53 | batrick | i smell drama |
| 06:19.54 | batrick | where? |
| 06:22.10 | Shadowed | probably going to go kill the stupid people posting about minion |
| 06:23.32 | Cairenn | crits everyone with wall-o-text for eleventy-bajillion points of damage |
| 06:23.50 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=140871#post140871 |
| 06:24.05 | tekkub | damnit Cairenn |
| 06:24.14 | Cairenn | hmmm? |
| 06:24.18 | Shadowed | Cairenn ban them all |
| 06:24.26 | Shadowed | and then report them to the FBI for terroristic threats |
| 06:24.55 | batrick | sweet jesus |
| 06:24.59 | tekkub | typo, paragraph 6, line 7, word 7 |
| 06:25.03 | batrick | Cairenn++ |
| 06:25.51 | Cairenn | paragraph 6 only has 2 lines |
| 06:26.24 | Thunder_Child | ow..my eyes |
| 06:26.52 | Cairenn | told you |
| 06:26.55 | Cairenn | crits everyone with wall-o-text for eleventy-bajillion points of damage |
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| 06:27.19 | Thunder_Child | you did |
| 06:27.20 | Matsy | Gooood.. morning! |
| 06:27.23 | batrick | <3s Cairenn |
| 06:27.24 | tekkub | I hope I can finish reading it and get FIRST! |
| 06:27.32 | Cairenn | tekkub: so why are you saying "dammit" now? |
| 06:27.43 | tekkub | typo, paragraph 6, line 7, word 7 |
| 06:27.53 | Cairenn | paragraph 6 only has 2 lines |
| 06:27.58 | Thunder_Child | first? i hope i dont die of dehydration before i am done with it |
| 06:28.01 | tekkub | maybe it's 7 |
| 06:28.25 | tekkub | it's in there somewhere, and it makes you look like a total ass |
| 06:28.31 | tekkub | *sits back and watches* |
| 06:28.55 | batrick | is glad he left modding behind after reading that post. |
| 06:29.59 | tekkub | huzzah, I did get first |
| 06:30.18 | tekkub | now to come up with something to completely dispel the serious tone cair's wall caused |
| 06:30.37 | Shadowed | oh I was going to post but got distracted |
| 06:30.38 | Shadowed | oops |
| 06:33.12 | tekkub | I guess that'll have to do |
| 06:33.31 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:34.21 | Cairenn | that isn't either, actually, but |
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| 06:34.59 | Fisker- | in b4 cool story bro |
| 06:37.03 | Cairenn | hugs tekkub |
| 06:37.05 | Cairenn | thank you |
| 06:37.46 | tekkub | just edited again :P |
| 06:38.04 | Cairenn | that's what I hugged you for |
| 06:38.07 | Cairenn | the second edit |
| 06:38.12 | tekkub | ah |
| 06:38.19 | tekkub | I thought you liked assrape |
| 06:38.22 | Cairenn | no |
| 06:38.34 | tekkub | c'mon, you know it's funny |
| 06:38.44 | Cairenn | using the term rape, in any form, actually isn't funny to me in the slightest |
| 06:38.50 | tekkub | :P |
| 06:38.57 | Cairenn | I've BEEN raped - it isn't a joke, not ever |
| 06:39.08 | tekkub | I kinda figured as much |
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| 06:40.02 | Cairenn | normally I don't freak out over it, but when someone called me a rapist today, that was the last straw |
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| 06:40.23 | Cairenn | me/us |
| 06:40.26 | Torhal | Cairenn: WTF? |
| 06:40.28 | tekkub | yea I know, it takes a lot to make you snap, and the fact that it was that that did it... |
| 06:40.38 | tekkub | you're easy to read :) |
| 06:40.38 | Torhal | Ugh :( |
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| 06:40.49 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24395 |
| 06:41.01 | Cairenn | yeah, I know |
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| 06:41.03 | Cairenn | but oh well |
| 06:41.06 | tekkub | or maybe I've just known too many people like you that I can just pick it out |
| 06:41.16 | tekkub | damn my choice of faghags |
| 06:41.20 | |Jelly| | wow |
| 06:41.26 | |Jelly| | hugs Cairenn. |
| 06:41.31 | Bruners | when is WM getting their addon hosting shit up? |
| 06:41.31 | Cairenn | hard to NOT know someone who's been raped, at least in North America |
| 06:41.44 | Cairenn | the stats on it are positively horrifying |
| 06:41.51 | Cairenn | hugs |Jelly| |
| 06:41.53 | tekkub | well, not everyone is aware they do |
| 06:42.03 | Cairenn | no, this is true |
| 06:42.04 | Torhal | Ugh |
| 06:42.11 | Torhal | The idiocy has reached new levels. |
| 06:42.28 | Matsy | Lol what |
| 06:42.31 | Matsy | Wowmatrix? |
| 06:42.43 | Matsy | Haha >_> |
| 06:42.49 | tekkub | I just want Ja... I've forgotten the rest of his name since I ignored him... to just fucking admit he's one of WM's people |
| 06:42.51 | Cairenn | that post of mine, though, has been festering for a while now - it was just a matter of when |
| 06:43.00 | Cairenn | Jalandar? |
| 06:43.01 | Fisker- | that's kinda silly Cairenn |
| 06:43.02 | tekkub | it's so blaringly fucking obvious he is |
| 06:43.07 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 06:43.07 | tekkub | yea that one |
| 06:43.09 | Fisker- | "you MUST allow WowMatrix to host your addon." |
| 06:43.13 | Fisker- | "I WILL NOT support ANY addon that is hosted on WoWi or curse --PERIOD--" |
| 06:43.20 | Cairenn | Shirik gave him a 3-day ban, tonight |
| 06:43.23 | batrick | I really do hate convincing people on the internet why they are being rabble. |
| 06:43.24 | Cairenn | and I didn't stop him |
| 06:43.28 | Fisker- | So if they allow wowmatrix to host your addon, but still host it on curse, then you still won't support them |
| 06:43.29 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 06:43.37 | Matsy | hahah |
| 06:43.39 | tekkub | if he comes back, permaban ^^ |
| 06:45.04 | Wobin | <3 Cairenn |
| 06:45.11 | tekkub | unless he appologizes |
| 06:45.16 | tekkub | like that'll happen |
| 06:45.23 | tekkub | in which case, 15 year ban |
| 06:45.29 | Shadowed | why stop at 15 |
| 06:45.40 | tekkub | because he apologized |
| 06:45.46 | Wobin | Now we can wait for Wowinsider to blog about it =P |
| 06:45.57 | Matsy | Lol |
| 06:46.01 | Matsy | Look at his other posts. |
| 06:46.04 | tekkub | quick someone tip them off |
| 06:46.10 | tekkub | I can see the title now |
| 06:46.33 | tekkub | "Jalander casts taunt, Cairenn enrages, raid wipes" |
| 06:46.50 | Wobin | "Enrage Timer reached" |
| 06:47.07 | tekkub | repair bills drive Ensidia into poverty |
| 06:47.08 | Wobin | "Scrub Raid causes Complete Wipe" |
| 06:47.44 | Bruners | i only know one guy that has been raped |
| 06:48.38 | tekkub | they just call it moesting with guys, and make it seem somehow not as bad |
| 06:48.46 | tekkub | add an 'l' in there |
| 06:49.17 | zenzio | hey Cairenn, that "Save the Earth" line in your signature... is it just coincidental that it seems to be colored like the Irish flag? |
| 06:54.32 | tekkub | fucking eh |
| 06:54.52 | tekkub | so I finally, somehow, pop the goddamn zit in my ear.. and it's a fucking bleeder |
| 06:55.01 | tekkub | it looks like I'm leaking brains |
| 06:55.12 | zenzio | that would explain things |
| 06:55.24 | Matsy | LOL |
| 06:55.28 | tekkub | what you say |
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| 07:04.48 | zenzio | Algalon-25 finally killed, interesting |
| 07:08.53 | Gnarfoz | but but but! they have no life! and they don't deserve it! and they all have no jobs and no girlfriends and no life!11 |
| 07:09.28 | zenzio | I have no understanding for people who (seriously) resort to such remarks about other people's raiding |
| 07:09.37 | Gnarfoz | me neither |
| 07:09.38 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 07:09.51 | tekkub | the people that make those remarks are projecting their insecurities is all |
| 07:09.52 | Corrodias | if i had any serious concern about not having a "life", i'd just take someone else's. |
| 07:10.14 | tekkub | they *know* that they personally have no life, spend all their time in wow, and they're not as good as those people |
| 07:10.27 | zenzio | hehe |
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| 07:11.19 | zenzio | I'm especially amused how quick people are to shout "it's just a game". I've yet to see any worthy argument for why any other spare-time hobby is more acceptable than a game, as long as the person is enjoying what he gets out of his time |
| 07:12.26 | Matsy | What about those people that spend every single minute of their life trying to build a house of wooden sticks. Apparently, people are like "Wowww, how did he do that", yet with WoW, it's something different :< |
| 07:12.29 | Matsy | Makes no sense. |
| 07:12.50 | zenzio | exactly =) |
| 07:13.13 | Fisker- | loser! |
| 07:13.35 | Bruners | nolifers! you play the same game as i |
| 07:15.33 | Fisker- | kills Bruners |
| 07:16.22 | Bruners | uses his ankh and runs away |
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| 07:31.16 | tekkub | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CockBullWebcomic/~3/otsuwWenb_I/ |
| 07:31.27 | tekkub | er, or the direct link http://cocknbull.net/2009/06/04/egg-abuse/ |
| 07:32.06 | Fisker- | slaps tekkub around a bit with a large trout |
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| 07:36.40 | |stefan| | heya =) |
| 07:37.14 | |stefan| | how would i go about registering a function for all frames. f.ex i want to grab the name of a frame when i click ? |
| 07:37.41 | |stefan| | tried attaching a function to UIParent but i dunno ;) |
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| 07:37.53 | tekkub | you don't |
| 07:38.10 | tekkub | you install something like spew or where's my cow to discover frame names |
| 07:38.37 | pb_ee1 | Your cow is in the kitchen |
| 07:38.50 | tekkub | you cow is in my pants |
| 07:38.53 | tekkub | *your |
| 07:38.54 | |stefan| | well i wanna do it myself =) |
| 07:39.03 | pb_ee1 | moooooo |
| 07:39.15 | tekkub | then grab said addon and look at what it does |
| 07:39.25 | tekkub | and then realize it's just simpler to use the addon ^^ |
| 07:39.49 | |stefan| | meh =) |
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| 07:43.54 | Matsy | Ah wow |
| 07:44.07 | Matsy | I finally finished that Letter Math application |
| 07:44.23 | Matsy | 16 lines, woo. |
| 07:44.25 | Matsy | Should be fast |
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| 08:03.54 | Fisker- | It's funny btw |
| 08:04.02 | Matsy | ? |
| 08:04.24 | Fisker- | I think Sony confused "Only possible on playstation" by "Bribed to only be on playstation" or "Noone else could be bothered to port it to other platforms" |
| 08:04.57 | Corrodias | don't get me started on sony |
| 08:05.40 | Kalroth | Fony |
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| 08:08.49 | Matsy | ... |
| 08:08.53 | Matsy | This might be a stupid question |
| 08:09.02 | Matsy | But, how does one find all results from a regex? |
| 08:09.03 | Matsy | In Lua? |
| 08:12.05 | airtonix | lua> for result in pairs((" a b c d e f g"):gmatch("%w+"))do print(result) end |
| 08:12.05 | lua_bot | airtonix: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got function) |
| 08:12.21 | airtonix | lua> for result in pairs(({"a b c d e f g"}):gmatch("%w+"))do print(result) end |
| 08:12.21 | lua_bot | airtonix: luabot:1: attempt to call method 'gmatch' (a nil value) |
| 08:12.34 | airtonix | bah |
| 08:13.09 | Matsy | haha |
| 08:13.35 | Fisker- | owned |
| 08:15.32 | Thunder_Child | if anyone needs a $15 8gb flash drive with a shitty game on it http://www.woot.com/ has em |
| 08:16.12 | Wobin | You make it sound so appealing |
| 08:16.18 | Thunder_Child | dont i though |
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| 08:19.15 | Matsy | Oh |
| 08:19.17 | Matsy | It works already |
| 08:19.41 | Matsy | lua> for result in string.gmatch("ABCD EDFG HIJK","[A-Za-z]+") do print(result) end |
| 08:19.42 | lua_bot | Matsy: ABCD, EDFG, HIJK |
| 08:19.49 | Matsy | Yay |
| 08:20.06 | tekkub | ah, wikipedia... http://skitch.com/tekkub/b14d2/safari |
| 08:20.47 | zenzio | heh |
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| 08:23.14 | tekkub | I mean, c'mon, they're even badly placed... "They also suggest[citation needed]" |
| 08:26.28 | Kalroth | tekkub: do you have a citation for that |
| 08:27.50 | Matsy | :( |
| 08:27.54 | Matsy | Does Lua even have any libraries |
| 08:28.05 | Matsy | I can't seem to make a unique list >_> |
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| 08:29.26 | ZorbaTHut | rean, pong, if you're still around |
| 08:29.33 | ZorbaTHut | man, people shouldn't ping me, just /msg me :P |
| 08:29.59 | ZorbaTHut | matsy, lua's "standard library" is extremely limited. Most things you'll either need to do with third-party libraries or your own code. |
| 08:30.26 | Matsy | Eh |
| 08:30.29 | Matsy | can't use third party libraries |
| 08:30.32 | Matsy | Darn :< |
| 08:30.36 | Matsy | So, own coding it is |
| 08:30.58 | Arrowmaster | i would tell you how to do a unique list but i know why your asking |
| 08:31.08 | Matsy | You do? |
| 08:31.48 | Matsy | Why am I asking? |
| 08:31.53 | Arrowmaster | "(Matsy) I finally finished that Letter Math application" |
| 08:32.05 | Matsy | Yeah. |
| 08:32.09 | Matsy | I figured out my algorythm |
| 08:32.14 | Matsy | And, implemented it in C# / Python |
| 08:32.16 | Matsy | BUT |
| 08:32.20 | Matsy | Lua is messing up on me. |
| 08:32.41 | Arrowmaster | shouldnt have written it in another language first |
| 08:32.50 | Matsy | What, why not |
| 08:32.54 | Matsy | I know the approach is workign |
| 08:33.04 | Matsy | And, it works with every possible equation |
| 08:34.13 | Matsy | Anyway |
| 08:34.16 | Matsy | Unique tables, pls |
| 08:35.37 | Thunder_Child | ~ping ZorbaTHut |
| 08:35.38 | purl | pong ZorbaTHut |
| 08:36.35 | ZorbaTHut | :P |
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| 08:40.49 | Thunder_Child | ZorbaTHut, at what point do you want the sv sent to you? |
| 08:41.39 | ZorbaTHut | thunder, whenever you feel like it, basically. There's always useful info of some kind. |
| 08:41.53 | ZorbaTHut | It wipes old stuff after about a month, so once per month is perfectly reasonable |
| 08:41.58 | Thunder_Child | ZorbaTHut, ok because i had to wipe qh again |
| 08:42.17 | ZorbaTHut | what made you wipe qh, out of curiosity? |
| 08:43.03 | Thunder_Child | after playing around with a few of the settings it stoped tracking more than one quest....even after i reset eveything to the way it was |
| 08:43.08 | Thunder_Child | and a restart of wow |
| 08:43.12 | ZorbaTHut | curious |
| 08:43.25 | ZorbaTHut | next time that happens, make a backup of your savedvariables so I can see what was changed ;) |
| 08:43.32 | Thunder_Child | will do |
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| 08:54.18 | laeg | is there any reason for a rogue to hold onto a collection of tbc darkmoon cards? |
| 09:01.03 | Thunder_Child | nostalgia? |
| 09:08.38 | Bruners | laeg: reputation? |
| 09:08.49 | airtonix | because i want to |
| 09:17.43 | laeg | Thunder_Child, Bruners: i have a lot to sell and others are still selling them |
| 09:17.48 | laeg | so they still have worth, right? |
| 09:18.07 | laeg | my rogue is only 55 and i'm wondering if it's a waster of time to use any for a trinket? |
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| 09:40.40 | laeg | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25047 |
| 09:40.58 | laeg | tourmaline loop comes with different enchants, each one would have it's own item id, right? is there anyway to get it? |
| 09:41.13 | laeg | of the bandit |
| 09:42.04 | phyber | http://www.wowwiki.com/SuffixId |
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| 09:46.42 | laeg | phyber: ty |
| 09:48.00 | laeg | phyber: it doesn't list of the bandit anywhere on that page |
| 09:50.52 | phyber | it doesn't, but if you go to the itemstring page, you should have enough info to be able to find it :) |
| 09:51.14 | phyber | http://www.wowwiki.com/ItemRandomSuffix#Suffix_40:_of_the_Bandit |
| 09:51.18 | phyber | ah, it's on a new page |
| 09:51.21 | phyber | since it was new in 2.0 |
| 09:53.47 | laeg | TY |
| 09:54.28 | laeg | phyber: it has agi, stamina and ap |
| 09:54.45 | laeg | so how do i ammend 25047 which is the base item |
| 09:55.27 | phyber | http://www.wowwiki.com/ItemLink http://www.wowwiki.com/ItemString |
| 09:57.48 | laeg | ty |
| 10:04.05 | JaggaJatt | hey |
| 10:04.10 | JaggaJatt | how do I send a global message |
| 10:04.15 | JaggaJatt | like to maybe all hordes or something |
| 10:04.19 | JaggaJatt | or the hordes in my city |
| 10:04.32 | JaggaJatt | anybody know? |
| 10:04.53 | phyber | /1 Mooooooooooo moomoo moo moo? |
| 10:04.56 | phyber | taurenese. |
| 10:05.06 | JaggaJatt | ok |
| 10:05.14 | JaggaJatt | says |
| 10:05.20 | JaggaJatt | you do not have permission to speak |
| 10:05.26 | phyber | /1 is the general channel, /2 trade, etc. (unless you renumber them) |
| 10:05.33 | phyber | :o |
| 10:05.42 | airtonix | lolz trial account |
| 10:05.56 | phyber | yeah, was wondering that |
| 10:06.03 | phyber | was looking at trial on wowwiki to see what the limits were ;) |
| 10:06.06 | JaggaJatt | damn |
| 10:06.09 | JaggaJatt | still not upgraded |
| 10:06.09 | JaggaJatt | w |
| 10:06.14 | JaggaJatt | what can I do to speed up the upgrade? |
| 10:06.20 | airtonix | pay money |
| 10:06.30 | airtonix | give children |
| 10:06.39 | airtonix | defect to the dark side |
| 10:06.42 | JaggaJatt | hheheheeheh |
| 10:06.45 | JaggaJatt | no seriously |
| 10:06.48 | JaggaJatt | anything i can do? |
| 10:06.58 | airtonix | pay money wit ha credit card? |
| 10:07.10 | JaggaJatt | hmm I paid with debit card |
| 10:07.15 | JaggaJatt | already |
| 10:07.40 | JaggaJatt | Next time I will pay with paypal :E |
| 10:07.52 | airtonix | which would take longer |
| 10:08.01 | airtonix | you have been logging out right? |
| 10:08.07 | JaggaJatt | From the game? |
| 10:08.10 | JaggaJatt | no :( |
| 10:08.12 | JaggaJatt | just exiting |
| 10:08.16 | JaggaJatt | dont think that logs me out |
| 10:08.17 | JaggaJatt | does it |
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| 10:08.48 | JaggaJatt | I paid for it online, I got a key do I need to enter that ? |
| 10:08.49 | JaggaJatt | LOL? |
| 10:08.58 | airtonix | ... |
| 10:09.19 | JaggaJatt | airtonix : dont !!! me I read somewhere that it said only retail |
| 10:09.21 | JaggaJatt | but w/e :( |
| 10:09.23 | JaggaJatt | ill enter it |
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| 10:12.22 | JaggaJatt | airtonix : I dont have to enter the key in right? |
| 10:12.26 | JaggaJatt | because I can't see it there |
| 10:12.33 | JaggaJatt | I dont see upgrade my account or anything |
| 10:12.38 | JaggaJatt | so i just gotta log out and stuff yeah? |
| 10:13.01 | zenzio | where do you mean you don't see anything about upgrading? Are you logged in to the account management website? |
| 10:13.06 | JaggaJatt | yes |
| 10:13.07 | JaggaJatt | I am |
| 10:14.40 | JaggaJatt | zenzio there is no place I can enter it |
| 10:17.01 | JaggaJatt | I suppose it keeps me logged in then if I don't Logout in-game and not just exit |
| 10:17.57 | zenzio | if you exit WoW, you log out |
| 10:18.12 | zenzio | exit is just a log-out that doesn't take you to the login screen but drops you all the way back to Windows |
| 10:18.21 | JaggaJatt | k |
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| 10:18.46 | JaggaJatt | I didnt know because I thought when u log back in u end up at the same place and not soem home etc |
| 10:18.53 | JaggaJatt | Im fairly new to the game, about 3 days |
| 10:18.58 | JaggaJatt | never played such a game :) |
| 10:20.22 | zenzio | you always log back in at the same place you log out |
| 10:20.45 | JaggaJatt | yeah |
| 10:20.52 | JaggaJatt | i guess ill just give it a few hours |
| 10:20.55 | JaggaJatt | thanks anyway |
| 10:20.59 | JaggaJatt | thres no way to speed it up obviousl |
| 10:21.00 | JaggaJatt | ;) |
| 10:21.01 | JaggaJatt | brb |
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| 10:31.14 | Aelobin | is /roll just a system message? |
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| 10:36.11 | Fisker- | yarr |
| 10:38.26 | haste | Fisker- is correct in this matter Aelobin |
| 10:38.46 | Elkano | Matsy, I hate you... you just made me solve the task, too ^^ |
| 10:38.47 | Aelobin | xD |
| 10:39.02 | Aelobin | Elkano: i hate you, you made me lose the game |
| 10:39.05 | Elkano | and yes Fisker-, I still h8 you, too :) |
| 10:39.09 | haste | which task? |
| 10:39.31 | Elkano | http://beta.wowace.com/contests/2-alphabet-mathematics/ |
| 10:39.56 | Fisker- | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:39.59 | Fisker- | slaps Elkano around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:40.11 | Elkano | about 80 lines of "wtf am I doing here?" |
| 10:40.21 | haste | LOADING! |
| 10:41.16 | haste | oh ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuu |
| 10:41.24 | Fisker- | what are you playing? |
| 10:41.31 | haste | the URL Elkano linked :p |
| 10:43.45 | Fisker- | nice game |
| 10:46.33 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=9520842756&pageNo=1&sid=1#6 <-lols |
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| 10:46.47 | Fisker- | Making fundemental changes to our pve rotation = minor tweaks? :3 |
| 10:47.37 | Gnarfoz | where does it say anything about changes to our non-existing rotation? |
| 10:48.29 | Fisker- | It doesn't |
| 10:48.38 | Fisker- | But that's what GC said were coming in 3.2 |
| 10:53.33 | Fisker- | omg i can't control my arms |
| 10:53.37 | Fisker- | omg i'm killing you Gnarfoz |
| 10:53.45 | Gnarfoz | too bad |
| 10:53.54 | Gnarfoz | I was just about to make you a VERY rich man |
| 10:54.19 | Fisker- | oh suddenly my arms stopped! |
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| 10:55.09 | Fisker- | giev riches |
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| 11:02.16 | Fisker- | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:02.29 | Gnarfoz | beating a dead horse |
| 11:02.30 | Gnarfoz | :O |
| 11:07.31 | Fisker- | if for any reason you're not completely satisfied |
| 11:07.33 | Fisker- | then i hate you |
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| 11:09.59 | Aezay | For string patterns, do you still have to escape reserved signs inside sets. Example: "[+-](%d+)" or is it "[%+%-](%d+)"? |
| 11:10.48 | Aelobin | yeh i think so :P |
| 11:11.07 | Aelobin | http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8893/romanroller.jpg my addons make so much sense =) |
| 11:11.47 | Gnarfoz | indeed, lol |
| 11:12.28 | Aelobin | reckon it's possible to convert roman numerals to binary without going through decimal first? |
| 11:12.36 | Aelobin | in Lua (no reason, just curious) |
| 11:15.24 | ZorbaTHut | aelobin, haha, that's awesome |
| 11:15.42 | Fisker- | but it wouldn't have been awesome if it wasn't for me |
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| 11:19.52 | haste | Aezay: you shouldn't need to escape them inside captures |
| 11:20.30 | Aezay | haste, thanks, was trying both with and without, and they both seemed to work, wasn't sure what was the "right" way to do it |
| 11:22.19 | haste | Aezay: afaik, the only one you really need to escape is % and ] |
| 11:25.29 | Aezay | haste, that makes sense, I got it all working now, thanks again |
| 11:40.08 | Wobin | Fisker-: DKs have had their rotations changed every patch thereabouts =) |
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| 12:14.39 | Wobin | woah |
| 12:14.39 | Wobin | http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/04/07/what-happened-to-me-and-the-new-girl-or-the-girl-who-cried-webmaster/ |
| 12:14.46 | Wobin | dude saved from crazy girl by weblog |
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| 12:23.51 | Coren{de} | in all its sadness, it has its fun parts...: "You proved P = NP?" - "Yes!" |
| 12:25.06 | Gnarfoz | Wobin: woah |
| 12:28.30 | Superbia | anyone know if I can get pitbull to just show my buffs on a target and only curable by me debuffs? |
| 12:31.22 | foxlit | "Somewhere, Alan Turing’s coffin was experiencing fantastic rotational torque." |
| 12:31.36 | foxlit | as opposed to some other kind of torque, I suppose. |
| 12:31.38 | Wobin | Superbia: that's what I use SatrinaBuffFrames for |
| 12:32.19 | Superbia | Wobin, ahh, me and SBF has never really gotten along :P but I guess I need to give it a new try thanks |
| 12:32.55 | Wobin | foxlit: well, isn't torque the -tendency- towards rotation about a point? |
| 12:33.52 | Wobin | I'm just not sure if "experiencing fantastic torque" would have been definitive enough |
| 12:34.14 | foxlit | rotational acceleration, if anything. |
| 12:34.22 | Wobin | yeah, that might have been clearer =) |
| 12:34.29 | Coren{de} | torque seems to have at least three meanings, and if you choose the equivalent meaning of "momentum", the rotational is a acceptable qualifier :> |
| 12:35.15 | foxlit | torque around a point = force cross offset vector to point |
| 12:37.02 | foxlit | Whee. |
| 12:37.05 | Coren{de} | you're thinking too physicist ;) |
| 12:37.12 | airtonix | addon ui panel : (one and only button) labeled : "YOUR DESIRES IN FIVE MINUTES" |
| 12:37.28 | foxlit | I've now single-handledly adjusted popularity of some itunes songs from "not popular at all" to "zomg buy now buy now buy now!" |
| 12:37.45 | zenzio | reverses foxlit's polarity |
| 12:38.11 | foxlit | Genius Recommendations: "Rub the S***e" |
| 12:38.33 | airtonix | 'very small rocks' |
| 12:38.34 | Coren{de} | now, the interesting thing about that story of that guy/girl is now, is it true or actually *a story*? /ponder I'm currently 50:50 about it :D |
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| 12:51.11 | dardack | can you have like a hover tooltip over a fontstring? |
| 12:51.48 | alestane | If you want to do a certain amount of work for it...FontStrings don't have scripts, so the parent frame would have to monitor the mouse location. |
| 12:52.11 | dardack | oh |
| 12:52.19 | Coren{de} | FontStrings are layers, not frames, iirc... so you'll need to put it onto whatever |
| 12:52.33 | alestane | I'd recommend making a nested frame just for the FontString if you want that level of interactivity. |
| 12:52.54 | Adys | STOP HUGGING STOP HUGGING STOP HUGGING!!! |
| 12:53.01 | alestane | FontStrings are like textures. |
| 12:53.01 | Adys | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1419 |
| 12:53.06 | alestane | Adys: Poor Hanners. |
| 12:53.08 | zenzio | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 12:53.10 | Adys | :D |
| 12:53.29 | Lopeppeppy | huggles zenzio. It's fun that way. |
| 12:53.42 | dardack | ok, so i guess i don't know how to nestle a frame inside a frame without it looking like there is another frame inside |
| 12:53.59 | jnwhiteh | frames have no visual component |
| 12:54.04 | jnwhiteh | so it shouldn't be hard =) |
| 12:54.08 | dardack | so just don't enable a texture or anything |
| 12:54.10 | dardack | right |
| 12:54.12 | jnwhiteh | well, most frames |
| 12:54.22 | alestane | dardack: If the only visual content the child frame has is the fontstring, it won't leave any other sign of its presence. |
| 12:54.27 | jnwhiteh | a very few of the types actually have implicit visual stuff |
| 12:54.33 | Adys | ~hug |
| 12:54.34 | purl | ACTION hugs adys |
| 12:54.35 | alestane | You might need to remove a backdrop or something. |
| 12:54.50 | Adys | ~hugs |
| 12:54.51 | purl | Haskell 98 intepreter. URL: http://www.haskell.org/hugs/ |
| 12:54.56 | Adys | WTF |
| 12:55.00 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 12:55.03 | Coren{de} | what is an "OCD"?? |
| 12:55.04 | jnwhiteh | why WTF? |
| 12:55.13 | dardack | alestane: than i can add a script for onhover or something for that 1 frame? |
| 12:55.14 | Adys | Coren{de}: obsessive compulsive disorder |
| 12:55.22 | Coren{de} | ah, kek |
| 12:55.28 | alestane | dardack: Sure, that's why you'd do it. |
| 12:55.38 | airtonix | Occular Correction Directive |
| 12:55.51 | Adys | purl no hugs is <reply>STOP HUGGING STOP HUGGING STOP HUGGING!!! |
| 12:55.52 | purl | okay, Adys |
| 12:55.57 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 12:55.58 | jnwhiteh | Adys: no |
| 12:56.14 | jnwhiteh | purl no hugs is Haskell 98 interpreter. URL: http://www.haskell.org/hugs |
| 12:56.15 | purl | okay, jnwhiteh |
| 12:56.15 | alestane | dardack: OnEnter and OnLeave. |
| 12:56.17 | Adys | purl: hugs is also http://www.haskell.org/hugs/ |
| 12:56.18 | purl | hugs is also http://www.haskell.org/hugs/ even though it's not "prim & proper" to do so |
| 12:56.21 | jnwhiteh | You do not have the right to change something liek that, so don't. |
| 12:56.42 | Adys | erm |
| 12:56.48 | Adys | factoids are locked if they need me |
| 12:56.52 | Adys | s/m/b/ |
| 12:56.52 | jnwhiteh | purl is not _our_ bot |
| 12:56.58 | jnwhiteh | ,.. but its rude |
| 12:57.00 | jnwhiteh | and unnecessary |
| 12:57.01 | jnwhiteh | >,# |
| 12:57.08 | jnwhiteh | especially for something as silly as that, no offense. |
| 12:57.22 | zenzio | isn't Adys French? |
| 12:57.42 | Adys | yeah, after all its well known haskell interpreters are important :P |
| 12:57.58 | jnwhiteh | .. you're on an open source network |
| 12:57.59 | zenzio | Adys: it could be in one of the many other channels purl is in |
| 12:58.01 | jnwhiteh | its relevant. |
| 12:58.04 | alestane | Adys: I'm with jnwhiteh on this one, other rooms use purl too. |
| 12:58.05 | Adys | purl isn't anyone's bot, jnwhiteh |
| 12:58.07 | jnwhiteh | yours was not. |
| 12:58.11 | jnwhiteh | Adys: no, its a community bot |
| 12:58.13 | jnwhiteh | for actualy shit |
| 12:58.14 | jnwhiteh | not playnig |
| 12:58.19 | Gnarfoz | it's actually riker's bot, so :P |
| 12:58.51 | Gnarfoz | and it's not necessary to stuff it full of QC, XKCD, Whatever quotes |
| 12:59.05 | Thrae | Ah Questionable Content. For all the 20-something life I never had the chance to experience. |
| 12:59.06 | Adys | it IS already full of that kind of quotes. |
| 12:59.16 | jnwhiteh | yes.. but not where the overwrite real factoids |
| 12:59.19 | jnwhiteh | that's the problem I have |
| 12:59.26 | Wobin | <3 QC |
| 12:59.37 | jnwhiteh | write a ~nohugs ~stophugs or whatever you want |
| 12:59.46 | zenzio | if you want a "fun" bot, set up your own |
| 13:01.44 | Adys | ~factoid hugs |
| 13:01.45 | purl | ACTION gives hugs a cup of trinitrotoluene |
| 13:01.49 | Adys | sigh |
| 13:01.56 | Adys | ~factinfo hugs |
| 13:01.56 | purl | hugs -- last modified 5m 41s ago by jnwhiteh!n=jnwhiteh@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire; it has been requested 4 times, last by jnwhiteh, 4m 14s ago. |
| 13:02.20 | Adys | thats twice in total outside the ones in the last 5 minutes |
| 13:02.26 | Adys | sounds like an important factoid doesnt it :P |
| 13:02.33 | Adys | ~factinfo botsnack |
| 13:02.33 | purl | Adys: there's no such factoid as botsnack |
| 13:02.35 | zenzio | that's not your decision to make, is it |
| 13:02.35 | jnwhiteh | yours isn't.. period. |
| 13:02.39 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 13:02.47 | Adys | it's not about decisions |
| 13:02.53 | Adys | its a public bot |
| 13:03.01 | jnwhiteh | .. and? |
| 13:03.07 | jnwhiteh | do whatever the fuck you want |
| 13:03.09 | zenzio | ~emulate zenzelezz |
| 13:03.10 | purl | OMG STOP TALKIN TO TEH BOT! |
| 13:03.10 | jnwhiteh | I don't care anymore |
| 13:03.19 | Adys | you're the ones making decisions here, I didn't go on modifying anything after that |
| 13:03.25 | Adys | -s |
| 13:04.38 | Adys | of course I wouldn't overwrite a "real" factoid, but if you start deciding that whichever one is important because it's about whichever app rather than something else... |
| 13:04.42 | Coren{de} | that ocd should read "obsessive cleaning disorder" :) and Angus seems to be a prick |
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| 13:04.56 | Adys | angus is awesome, watch your language |
| 13:05.07 | zenzio | it boils down to each person's opinion of what is "real" or "important" |
| 13:05.20 | jnwhiteh | If it already exists, I see absolutely no reason to overwrite it |
| 13:05.25 | jnwhiteh | especially for something thats "fun" |
| 13:05.32 | jnwhiteh | squatter's rights |
| 13:05.33 | Lopeppeppy | ^ |
| 13:05.48 | Thrae | Coren{de}: Are you trying to be funny or are you actually trying to redefine a term? |
| 13:05.53 | Adys | there are reasons why factoids aren't autolocked |
| 13:06.16 | zenzio | Adys: maybe the bot's owner just had too much faith in humanity |
| 13:06.17 | Lopeppeppy | There's trust in the community that we won't overwrite them on a whim, too. |
| 13:06.19 | zenzio | it's a common error to make |
| 13:06.21 | jnwhiteh | yes, because we as a community should self-police ourselves |
| 13:06.25 | jnwhiteh | that's what I was doing |
| 13:06.29 | Coren{de} | Thrae, see the comic |
| 13:06.36 | jnwhiteh | go ahead and do whatever you want, I didn't lock the factoid |
| 13:06.43 | Adys | (you cant) |
| 13:06.52 | jnwhiteh | but I've made my opinion, as an op of this channel.. one of the people who requested that the bot be added here. |
| 13:06.57 | Adys | and I didn't do anything after that once again |
| 13:07.07 | jnwhiteh | Yet you continue to justify yourself |
| 13:07.10 | jnwhiteh | so just change it back |
| 13:07.11 | jnwhiteh | whatever |
| 13:07.13 | zenzio | and we're saying our opinion is once was once too many |
| 13:07.34 | Adys | I'm not changing it back, and yeha Im justifying myself, do you have a problem with that? |
| 13:07.42 | jnwhiteh | yes, I'd rather the conversation ended |
| 13:07.45 | Coren{de} | *DRAMA!* |
| 13:07.56 | Adys | I wasnt the one who started it. |
| 13:08.01 | jnwhiteh | You're not going to convince me that you were righjt, we have a difference of opinion on this |
| 13:08.13 | jnwhiteh | And that's fine |
| 13:08.14 | Adys | doesn't mean I wont explain myself |
| 13:08.27 | jnwhiteh | alright |
| 13:08.51 | Thrae | Coren{de}: Right, but not all OCD sufferers are clean freaks. It's stereotyping. |
| 13:09.03 | Adys | Thrae: he was being humorous |
| 13:09.34 | Thrae | Which is what I asked him the first time. |
| 13:09.48 | jnwhiteh | so its not fun when a concurrency library has deadlock issues =/ |
| 13:10.39 | Coren{de} | Thrae, I wouldn't want to engage in a conversation about the typical psychological profile our insane society generates at this time of the day, so... don't take me serious, mkay? |
| 13:12.17 | Adys | fucking sigh |
| 13:12.18 | Adys | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17615561454&sid=1 |
| 13:12.34 | Gnarfoz | Adys: 'le sigh' |
| 13:13.41 | jnwhiteh | i hate the wow forums |
| 13:14.36 | Adys | "We are affected by <bug>. THIS IS UNNECESSARY AND MAKES OUR ARENA REPRESENTATION HORRIBLE BLIZZARD IM CANCELLING" |
| 13:15.32 | sp0ckk | jnwhiteh, join the club. |
| 13:15.36 | Legorol | Adys: in fairness to the OP (even though he is an idiot), at the time of making his post he was unaware that it is a bug. |
| 13:15.37 | Coren{de} | hate is such a strong word for a set of Bytes |
| 13:15.47 | sp0ckk | jnwhiteh, i don't even bother asking anything on there anymore. it's a joke on there |
| 13:15.54 | Adys | doesnt matter |
| 13:16.05 | Adys | people assuming this kind of crap piss me off :/ |
| 13:16.30 | Coren{de} | well, that's Blizzard's fault IMHO |
| 13:16.38 | Legorol | Adys: it does matter. Your re-wording of the post is slightly inaccurate ;) |
| 13:16.52 | Adys | id have copypasted it if I wanted accuracy :P |
| 13:17.03 | Thrae | Coren{de}: It's more like being right and being wrong, but OK. Anyway, the point is moot since you said you were trying to be humourous. See, the problem was Adys really was trying to redefine something (on purl) based on the same comic, so I inferred your vague "see the comic" meant you were going in the same direction. Which is why I asked if you were being humourous. |
| 13:17.17 | Adys | what the fuck Thrae, drop it seriously |
| 13:17.45 | Coren{de} | Blizzard is responsible for lots of drama, because their communication is lousy... you need to visit half a dozen sites to get necessary information together |
| 13:17.46 | Adys | he just made a small pun, big deal |
| 13:18.09 | Thrae | Sorry, *my* OCD likes to make things clear in any conversation. |
| 13:19.42 | sp0ckk | lol |
| 13:19.44 | sp0ckk | whoops |
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| 13:22.45 | Lopeppeppy | "We are the world, we are the children, we are the ones who make a brighter day, so let's start giving..." *hums* |
| 13:25.05 | Adys | http://www.dailymotion.com/openvideodemo |
| 13:25.11 | Adys | this is really really really nice |
| 13:25.23 | jnwhiteh | boo, i have an out of date browser =( |
| 13:25.26 | jnwhiteh | h8 my office machine |
| 13:25.33 | Adys | I think it works in opera beta |
| 13:25.56 | jnwhiteh | downloading and installing stuff is a pita on this machine =-/ |
| 13:26.41 | Coren{de} | what's it supposed to show? (I'm kinda curious but won't change to a beta just for this...) |
| 13:26.43 | Gnarfoz | they should just support libx264 in firefox :p |
| 13:26.45 | Stanzilla | Adys: http://www.youtube.com/html5 too :P |
| 13:26.47 | Adys | Coren{de}: a video |
| 13:26.52 | Adys | Stanzilla: seriously? |
| 13:26.56 | Stanzilla | yes srsly! |
| 13:27.03 | Adys | haha nice |
| 13:27.32 | Adys | though this doesnt really work in ff3.5 |
| 13:27.43 | Stanzilla | the link to the video in the source code is wrong |
| 13:27.45 | Adys | wonder if chrome linux supports it already |
| 13:27.47 | Stanzilla | that's why :p |
| 13:28.46 | Adys | yeah this doesnt work at all under ff |
| 13:29.18 | Adys | can someone test it on chrome/chromium windows? |
| 13:30.26 | airtonix | Adys, is it really native chrome for linux or just some embeded shite in a wine binary blob |
| 13:30.33 | Adys | native |
| 13:31.33 | Adys | airtonix: native chromium for linux should be ready within the next 2 months |
| 13:34.16 | phyber | chrome linux just says "You must have a HTML5 capable browser". this chrome is a week or so old. |
| 13:34.22 | Adys | Yeah |
| 13:34.56 | airtonix | so you are running builds from a repository? |
| 13:35.13 | phyber | http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-linux/ |
| 13:35.14 | phyber | from here |
| 13:35.21 | Adys | airtonix: they got a ppa setup on launchpad |
| 13:35.41 | phyber | http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/ for the different builds. |
| 13:35.56 | Adys | also last webkit supports this stuff |
| 13:36.02 | Adys | so it should be working on windows |
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| 13:37.20 | Coren{de} | they should put up a video of the video for pre-html5-people so we know what the buzz is about :D especially because "The plugin is 32-bit only currently." (http://code.google.com/p/o3d/wiki/HowToBuild) |
| 13:39.41 | dardack | sigh i'm having such a hard time with less-rabi |
| 13:40.06 | Wobin | the youtube one doesn't work in 3.5 =( |
| 13:40.42 | Wobin | dardack: apparently the key is to have a shaman with 5/5 reverberation spam earth or windshock =P |
| 13:40.44 | Stanzilla | 15:27:50 ? Stanzilla: the link to the video in the source code is wrong |
| 13:41.07 | dardack | wobin i paid a shaman friend to respec didn't work |
| 13:41.09 | Stanzilla | or better, it was, the last time I checked |
| 13:41.17 | dardack | hoping to try with a rogue with AR FoK |
| 13:41.33 | dardack | unforunately are dps was crazy yesterday and we missed one and killed him the next instant |
| 13:43.33 | Coren{de} | I believe the trick is to interrupt him as late as possible... |
| 13:44.19 | dardack | Coren{de}: yea but it becomes almost instance, the rogue i paid to respec just missed the last on at like 20% |
| 13:44.29 | dardack | we woulda had it but that 20% disappeared inlike 1second |
| 13:44.32 | dardack | maybe 2 |
| 13:44.36 | dardack | but couldn't stop dps intime |
| 13:46.14 | Coren{de} | ah, I see, Allakhazam says the fourth transform has about 0.5s cast time, so the person interrupting has to have an ideal connection and do nothing besides... |
| 13:46.47 | dardack | i know |
| 13:46.58 | dardack | well it could be longer just depends what percentage of health he's at |
| 13:47.16 | dardack | gotta find a shaman on draenor that's done it before |
| 13:47.27 | dardack | that and OCC are like my last ones |
| 13:48.03 | dardack | and unfortunately at my place i have like 400ms no idea why |
| 13:50.53 | Coren{de} | hm... this may sound stupid, but the dps know that they should burn all their CDs at the end and none at the beginning? :) |
| 13:51.50 | alestane | That depends on how long the cooldowns are and what they're for, and how much threat the tank can put out ot the beginning. |
| 13:51.53 | Coren{de} | I know many people who blow their CDs at engaging mobs (which I as tank consider dumb in multiple ways) and the habit might bite there... |
| 13:52.59 | Coren{de} | (Yeah, I admit it, I do low threat at the beginning on purpose at the first boss in every instance to see who dies...) |
| 13:53.08 | dardack | heh Coren{de} |
| 13:53.15 | dardack | i'm tank but i bring 4 dps for this ach |
| 13:53.32 | dardack | and we all wait for the 3rd (well first interupt after 50%) to pop hero everythign |
| 13:53.46 | dardack | man i saw a vid on youtube a 17 second kill |
| 13:53.52 | dardack | with only 1 interupt after 50% around 40% |
| 13:53.56 | dardack | so 40% in 5 seconds |
| 13:54.07 | dardack | i only know like 1 dps with tht much dps tho |
| 13:54.09 | dardack | not 4 |
| 13:54.53 | dardack | and my other problem is a lot of the good people i know raid evry time they are on when i'm on (mainly cause we're raidign together) our non raid times seem to not sync up |
| 13:54.59 | Coren{de} | I think 50% is the wrong mark for you then... pop everything at the last chunk you do, i.e. at the interrupt that should be the last |
| 13:55.29 | dardack | yea well gotta wait 2 more hours |
| 13:55.30 | dardack | and see if i can find good dps |
| 13:55.35 | Coren{de} | if you do 30% between two casts, you should patiently dps to 29%, wait for stun and then burn... |
| 13:55.52 | dardack | Coren{de}: yea thanks |
| 13:56.11 | dardack | i'm hoping the mage coutnerspell still locks out for 8seconds |
| 13:56.13 | dardack | it used to |
| 13:56.21 | dardack | so if i can get my mage to interupt at the 30% mark |
| 13:56.23 | dardack | we have 8 seconds |
| 13:56.23 | Coren{de} | isn't that 8s talent only? |
| 13:56.36 | dardack | no it's untalented |
| 13:56.44 | Coren{de} | arcane talent, I think? |
| 13:56.44 | dardack | it's a 4sec silence talented |
| 13:56.48 | Coren{de} | oh |
| 13:57.01 | dardack | the 8 second lockout is to that specific school of spells |
| 13:57.13 | dardack | but it used towork for 8 seconds dont' knwo fi they fixed it yet |
| 13:58.19 | Wobin | well the school lockout should work |
| 13:58.22 | Wobin | er help |
| 14:04.58 | Coren{de} | 430khp, 4dps * 4(?)kdps = ~16kdps, 16dkps * 8s = 128khp = 29.7%... |
| 14:05.40 | Coren{de} | (430khp says wowhead) |
| 14:08.49 | Coren{de} | kill in 17s is 25kdps for the group... ieks :) |
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| 14:10.06 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 14:12.14 | alestane | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/06/04/funny-pictures-lolcats-of-the-apocolypse/ |
| 14:12.46 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR |
| 14:13.10 | Coren{de} | my favorite remains http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/05/26/funny-pictures-give-a-cat-a-fish/ :) |
| 14:14.04 | Coren{de} | (I want that on a t-shirt...) |
| 14:14.29 | Lopeppeppy | That's a huge koi. I'm in love. |
| 14:14.59 | alestane | Forget a day, he'll eat for a week with that fish. |
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| 14:30.23 | Shirik|Ghost | batrick: pong |
| 14:31.42 | foxlit | # I want to thank you for my freedom, Jeff, but you knew that this time had to end -- I'm the one trained for space, if I don't take my place, they're going to send my friends. |
| 14:32.15 | Fisker- | slaps foxlit around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:32.32 | foxlit | slaps a trout around a bit with a small Fisker-. |
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| 14:32.49 | batrick | Shirik|Ghost: i forgot |
| 14:32.52 | batrick | o ya |
| 14:32.54 | batrick | chess |
| 14:32.58 | batrick | but too late now :P |
| 14:33.04 | Shirik|Ghost | lol I have to go to work |
| 14:33.42 | Lopeppeppy | *hugs for workings* |
| 14:35.22 | Shirik|Ghost | "If you love what you do, you'll never have to work a day in your life" |
| 14:35.50 | Shirik|Ghost | i.e., no hugs required |
| 14:36.38 | Lopeppeppy | *big sad eyes, takes back her hug to use somewhere else* |
| 14:36.57 | Shirik|Ghost | :( |
| 14:37.04 | Shirik|Ghost | I said not required, not not wanted |
| 14:37.11 | alestane | They're a supplement. |
| 14:37.20 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, that's different, if you're going to take care of it you can have it back. *sunny smile* |
| 14:38.28 | Fisker- | i could have you arrested Shirik |
| 14:38.41 | Wobin | supplimental hugs |
| 14:40.15 | Wobin | bugger |
| 14:40.19 | Wobin | I'm capped now =( |
| 14:40.28 | Wobin | for the next 5 days |
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| 14:41.23 | Fisker- | capped? |
| 14:41.57 | Lopeppeppy | capped on hugs? No way. |
| 14:42.00 | Lopeppeppy | Unpossible. |
| 14:44.26 | Fisker- | my hugcap is 1 |
| 14:45.07 | Matsy | Hai. |
| 14:45.10 | Matsy | ;o |
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| 14:48.17 | Shirik|Ghost | how exactly does one get a hugcap |
| 14:48.34 | foxlit | Ghosts have a hugcap of 0. |
| 14:48.38 | Shirik|Ghost | :( |
| 14:48.39 | foxlit | Being ethereal and all. |
| 14:48.41 | Lopeppeppy | I suppose if you're introverted and cranky like Fisker-, I could see it. |
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| 14:48.49 | Lopeppeppy | You can hug someone without touching them, foxlit. |
| 14:48.53 | Lopeppeppy | If you're good at it. |
| 14:49.00 | AckisWork | ~Fisker-++ |
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| 14:49.03 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 14:49.06 | foxlit | ~karma Fisker- |
| 14:49.06 | purl | fisker- has karma of -7 |
| 14:49.48 | Fisker- | slaps AckisWork around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:49.57 | Shirik|Ghost | Lopeppeppy is very good at hugging |
| 14:52.02 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, thanks! |
| 14:53.55 | End | Sometimes when they refer to pizzas, they call them pies, including when they're talking about delivery. Imo, there should be fruit pie delivery, so I could get a pie at my door. |
| 14:54.31 | Fisker- | i'm gonna pie you up |
| 14:54.38 | End | I'm gonna pie your mom |
| 14:54.47 | End | also |
| 14:54.50 | End | I want some apple pie |
| 14:54.53 | End | at my door |
| 14:55.09 | Lopeppeppy | End, you can do that out here. Get delivery from grocery stores. :) |
| 14:55.29 | End | hm |
| 14:55.45 | End | I must investigate! |
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| 14:56.13 | Lopeppeppy | Peapod.com, IIRC |
| 14:56.41 | End | personally, I'm not in their area |
| 14:56.56 | Lopeppeppy | There may be additional services. |
| 14:57.06 | Lopeppeppy | Amazon can ship ice cream, see if they have pies! |
| 14:57.10 | End | :o |
| 14:57.28 | End | oh, looks like safeway does it |
| 14:58.24 | End | but they don't service my area either |
| 14:59.04 | Lopeppeppy | Amazon for the win, I tell ya. |
| 14:59.28 | End | o_O |
| 14:59.59 | End | Applie Pie, 1 Used & new from $30.00 |
| 15:00.09 | Lopeppeppy | I just found that one too. :) |
| 15:01.55 | foxlit | mm, pie |
| 15:06.19 | alestane | http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/06/03/topless.shop.fire/index.html |
| 15:07.02 | Shirik | waves goodbye to the ghost |
| 15:07.19 | foxlit | you killed it... |
| 15:07.21 | foxlit | again. |
| 15:07.24 | foxlit | How heartless. |
| 15:07.47 | AckisWork | hmm |
| 15:07.55 | AckisWork | I can't put my gf on my benefits because they require 2 years |
| 15:08.03 | AckisWork | however I can claim her as a dependant child |
| 15:08.06 | AckisWork | wtf |
| 15:08.07 | Industrial | if theres something strange in your neighbourhood who you gonna call? |
| 15:08.07 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:08.25 | zenzelezz | Industrial: its wife |
| 15:08.54 | Industrial | an invisible man sleeping in your bed who yo gonna call? |
| 15:08.57 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, that's screwed up...but if your insurance actually allows you to claim an *adult* who is *unrelated* as a dependent... um... I say do it? |
| 15:09.08 | Matsy | How do you people |
| 15:09.08 | Fisker- | slaps AckisWork around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:09.10 | Matsy | Even program in Lua |
| 15:09.10 | Lopeppeppy | Industrial: Dr. Phil and The Ghost Whisperer. |
| 15:09.12 | Matsy | Seriously |
| 15:09.19 | foxlit | Happily. |
| 15:09.22 | Lopeppeppy | Matsy, with patience, like most programming languages. |
| 15:09.24 | Industrial | Matsy: What's the problem? |
| 15:09.33 | Matsy | I've been working all day to make a proper split() function, a set() function, and a words() function. |
| 15:09.40 | Matsy | And, I can't even seem to find a string.split() |
| 15:09.55 | foxlit | Why are you doing that? |
| 15:09.55 | zenzelezz | lua>string.split |
| 15:09.57 | lua_bot | zenzelezz: function: 0x96b6590 |
| 15:10.06 | Matsy | Lets say I have the values: |
| 15:10.06 | Industrial | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ |
| 15:10.10 | foxlit | > =string.split |
| 15:10.10 | foxlit | nil |
| 15:10.17 | foxlit | not in the default string library. |
| 15:10.24 | Matsy | lua> =string.split('asd') |
| 15:10.25 | lua_bot | Matsy: modules/luabot_sandbox.lua:133: bad argument #1 to 'match' (string expected, got nil) |
| 15:10.53 | Matsy | I just need something that makes a list of 'a','s','d' |
| 15:10.59 | Matsy | Preferably, unique. |
| 15:11.17 | Matsy | So, split('asda') still returns 'a','s','d' |
| 15:11.32 | Matsy | But, I have to work with tables, weird loops, and inserts. |
| 15:11.56 | foxlit | Why do you need a list of unique characters in a string? :) |
| 15:12.15 | Industrial | I've never found a need for string splitting besides string.gsub |
| 15:12.43 | Matsy | I made this algorithm for the wowace contests |
| 15:13.01 | foxlit | A common programming problem is becoming too attached to a particular implementation of something: so instead of working to solve a problem, you start working to implement a particular algorithm. |
| 15:13.21 | Matsy | And, for it to work, I need a list of the unique characters in the string 'ABCD + BCD = EAEA', where the unique characters should be one of the following [A-Za-z] |
| 15:13.27 | foxlit | s/algorithm/implementtion/ |
| 15:13.56 | Matsy | I have it working on 3 programming languages now. Except in Lua >_> |
| 15:14.00 | Matsy | And it's really painful |
| 15:14.51 | foxlit | lua> local u, s = {}, "DEADBEEF"; for i=1,#s do u[s:sub(i,i)] = true; end print(u); |
| 15:14.51 | lua_bot | foxlit: table: 0x8ee9ac8 |
| 15:14.59 | foxlit | Yeah, well, helfpul. |
| 15:15.00 | Matsy | ;o |
| 15:15.08 | foxlit | lua> local u, s = {}, "DEADBEEF"; for i=1,#s do u[s:sub(i,i)] = true; end for k in pairs(u) do print(k); end |
| 15:15.08 | lua_bot | foxlit: A, B, E, D, F |
| 15:15.08 | Matsy | What the hell. |
| 15:15.13 | Matsy | Oh god. |
| 15:15.14 | Industrial | tee hee |
| 15:15.17 | Matsy | That's EXACTLY what I need. |
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| 15:15.27 | Matsy | ... |
| 15:15.30 | Matsy | I dont know how it works, though. |
| 15:16.20 | Matsy | Oh |
| 15:16.23 | Matsy | I think I do, even |
| 15:16.45 | Matsy | Wow, thanks a lot, foxlit. |
| 15:17.46 | Industrial | Matsy: what do the set() and words() functions do? I don't even know them :> |
| 15:17.49 | Matsy | Oh |
| 15:17.54 | Matsy | Theyre in python. |
| 15:18.18 | foxlit | set would probably give you a set from a list. |
| 15:18.20 | Matsy | the set() function returns an unique list of values from this array of values. |
| 15:19.02 | Matsy | so, set(''.join(listofrandomwords)) would return the unique characters from those words. |
| 15:19.37 | Matsy | foxlit's implementation only works on one word, but I would believe stringjoining is also one of the possibilities in Lua. |
| 15:19.38 | Matsy | Right? |
| 15:19.45 | foxlit | "How do you people" "Even program in Python" |
| 15:19.47 | Matsy | lua>string.join |
| 15:19.47 | lua_bot | Matsy: function: 0x85ea608 |
| 15:19.57 | foxlit | It works on any single string. |
| 15:20.11 | Matsy | What does? |
| 15:20.18 | Matsy | Oh, yes. |
| 15:20.24 | Matsy | That's what I mean |
| 15:20.32 | Matsy | But, string.join should work. |
| 15:20.46 | foxlit | That's not default either. |
| 15:20.53 | Matsy | ... what |
| 15:20.55 | Industrial | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ |
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| 15:21.18 | Matsy | Oh, what |
| 15:21.21 | foxlit | lua_bot's bad: it implement's WoW's Lua environment. |
| 15:21.34 | foxlit | So there's all sorts of crap in library tables. |
| 15:21.47 | Matsy | It has a string.reverse |
| 15:21.48 | Matsy | But not a join? |
| 15:21.51 | zenzelezz | I thought lua_bot was made specifically to be WoW-like |
| 15:21.52 | Matsy | Lol. |
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| 15:22.05 | foxlit | zenzelezz: I'm sure it is. It just needs a different name :) |
| 15:22.13 | zenzelezz | foxlit: good point |
| 15:22.36 | foxlit | because reversing strings is difficult |
| 15:22.40 | foxlit | joining them is easy |
| 15:22.42 | Matsy | Yeah |
| 15:22.43 | Matsy | True ;p |
| 15:22.46 | alestane | Matsy: A different approach to the "set of characters" problem. May or may not be useful. |
| 15:22.48 | alestane | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/115382 |
| 15:22.54 | durcyn | you can fake strjoin in 5 lines with table.concat, ffs |
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| 15:23.02 | Matsy | ffs? |
| 15:23.11 | foxlit | you can fake strjoin with 1 line and no tables. |
| 15:23.18 | Matsy | Alestane |
| 15:23.25 | durcyn | for obscenity's sake, Matsy |
| 15:23.25 | Matsy | I dont know much about Lua at all |
| 15:23.27 | alestane | _F_or _F_*&^'s _S_ake. |
| 15:23.38 | Matsy | But, doesn't that give a major overhead>? |
| 15:23.46 | Elkano | lua> local u, s = {}, "DEADBEEF"; for c in s:gmatch("%u") do u[c] = true; end for k in pairs(u) do print(k); end |
| 15:23.46 | lua_bot | Elkano: A, B, E, D, F |
| 15:24.00 | alestane | Depends how long your string is. |
| 15:24.05 | foxlit | u, really? |
| 15:24.06 | Matsy | Well |
| 15:24.20 | Matsy | A maximum of 10 characters |
| 15:24.31 | Matsy | 0-9, really. |
| 15:24.34 | foxlit | ah, uppercase. |
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| 15:24.55 | foxlit | " doesn't that give a major overhead>?" << what does? |
| 15:25.01 | Matsy | All those lines? ;p |
| 15:25.15 | Matsy | Like, two function calls |
| 15:25.22 | Matsy | And, a recursive function. |
| 15:25.34 | alestane | It does everything on the stack. It will use a stack frame per character, but it generates no garbage and retains no memory once it has returned. |
| 15:25.37 | zenzelezz | recursive? What did I miss? |
| 15:25.45 | Matsy | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.49 | Matsy | local function listUniques(value, ...) |
| 15:25.53 | durcyn | premature optimization isn't your friend, Matsy |
| 15:25.55 | foxlit | You will of course crash on long strings. |
| 15:26.28 | Matsy | I'd only be looking at 10 characters, at max. |
| 15:26.38 | foxlit | lua> function f(...) print(select("#", ...)); end f(("1"):rep(5000)); |
| 15:26.39 | lua_bot | foxlit: 1 |
| 15:26.50 | foxlit | lua> function f(...) print(select("#", ...)); end f(("1"):rep(5000):byte()); |
| 15:26.50 | lua_bot | foxlit: 1 |
| 15:26.56 | Matsy | .. what |
| 15:27.16 | foxlit | whines at alestane. |
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| 15:28.32 | alestane | lua> print(select('#', string.byte('theverymodelofamodelmajorgeneral'))) |
| 15:28.32 | lua_bot | alestane: 1 |
| 15:28.44 | Zamoria | umm....is sourceforge dead? |
| 15:28.46 | foxlit | You need to pass more things to string.byte |
| 15:28.52 | alestane | lua> string.byte('theverymodelofamodelmajorgeneral') |
| 15:28.52 | lua_bot | alestane: 116 |
| 15:28.54 | krka | lua> function f(...) print(select("#", ...)) end f(("1"):rep(5000):byte(1, -1)) |
| 15:28.55 | lua_bot | krka: 5000 |
| 15:28.59 | krka | lua> function f(...) print(select("#", ...)) end f(("1"):rep(50000):byte(1, -1)) |
| 15:28.59 | lua_bot | krka: luabot:1: stack overflow (string slice too long) |
| 15:29.02 | krka | aww |
| 15:29.03 | Industrial | Zamoria: nop |
| 15:29.10 | Matsy | Oh. |
| 15:29.15 | Hirsute | s/ofamodelmajorgeneral/ofamodernmajorgeneral/ |
| 15:29.40 | Hirsute | >.> |
| 15:29.46 | Shirik | ? |
| 15:29.58 | Zamoria | Industrial: are you sure? I keep getting connection reset, errors finding downloads, etc |
| 15:30.10 | Hirsute | Oh, I just caught myself being anal about something silly. |
| 15:30.14 | alestane | Yes, my Gilbert and Sullivan is bad. And yes, apparently string.byte assumes you want only the first character unless you tell it otherwise. |
| 15:30.25 | Hirsute | Time to take a break from studying renal pathophysiology. |
| 15:30.32 | Industrial | Zamoria: no, I just loaded the homepage. |
| 15:30.49 | Zamoria | i loaded the homepage... it had 0 for all the stats and no real info on it |
| 15:31.32 | Zamoria | Industrial: http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=windirstat&filename=windirstat1_1_2_setup.exe&use_mirror=superb-west |
| 15:31.44 | foxlit | "the server unexpectedly dropped the connection" |
| 15:32.47 | Zamoria | ~fail Industrial's thoroughness :P |
| 15:32.48 | purl | Industrial's thoroughness :P, you Fail! |
| 15:33.02 | Industrial | :> |
| 15:35.18 | Matsy | Hmm. |
| 15:35.38 | Matsy | I'm actually starting to get lua now |
| 15:36.27 | AckisWork | lua> for i=1,1000,1 do print("Fisker-") end |
| 15:36.28 | lua_bot | AckisWork: Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fisker-, Fis... (result truncated) |
| 15:36.32 | AckisWork | that's lua for you! |
| 15:38.12 | End | Matsy: it's more than just a tool for Ackis to annoy people with...! |
| 15:38.30 | alestane | Lua is a streamlined synthesis of Modula, Smalltalk and Scheme. |
| 15:38.56 | AckisWork | End: lies! it was build with that purpose in mind |
| 15:39.01 | Matsy | WOW |
| 15:39.01 | Matsy | It works. |
| 15:39.09 | Matsy | What. |
| 15:39.11 | Matsy | Okay, that's good |
| 15:39.12 | foxlit | Inconceivable. |
| 15:39.19 | Zamoria | looks like SF's back if anyone cares |
| 15:39.28 | Matsy | Was that the Wowmatrix lover? |
| 15:39.29 | Matsy | ;o |
| 15:39.45 | Hirsute | pulls out his knife. WowMatrix lover? |
| 15:39.51 | Matsy | Yeah |
| 15:40.14 | Matsy | the one that posted that thread about "omg, carbonite, ima pay 100$ if you don't support wowinterface / curse anymore" |
| 15:40.47 | Hirsute | Sounds like someone needs a Cat5 ligation... |
| 15:40.47 | alestane | http://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/~lhf/ftp/doc/hopl.pdf Always an interesting read. |
| 15:40.53 | Matsy | Hmm |
| 15:41.05 | Matsy | I do need to make some kind of set() function |
| 15:41.10 | Matsy | Is there a way to make a one dimensional array? |
| 15:41.19 | AckisWork | wowmatrix is the best thing ever! |
| 15:41.19 | Matsy | Like, with test = []; |
| 15:41.26 | Hirsute | An indexed array? |
| 15:41.27 | End | test = {} |
| 15:41.30 | AckisWork | (PS: pay me $100 and I'll put ARL on wowmatrix AND suck your dick) |
| 15:41.31 | Matsy | ... |
| 15:41.36 | Matsy | {} is two-dimensiona, right? |
| 15:41.42 | Matsy | Since, it has a key, and a value. |
| 15:41.45 | Hirsute | s/an indexed/a numerically indexed/ |
| 15:41.54 | End | you can use integer keys |
| 15:42.00 | Hirsute | A one dimensional array has a key and value, as well, it's just that the keys are integers. |
| 15:42.01 | End | and it handles integer keys slightly specially |
| 15:42.10 | End | so you can do ipairs instead of pairs |
| 15:42.12 | Matsy | That's true. |
| 15:42.17 | End | and it goes through as if it was an ordinary array |
| 15:42.20 | Matsy | Oh. |
| 15:42.21 | End | instead of a hash table |
| 15:42.30 | Matsy | That's good. |
| 15:42.51 | Matsy | Because, I'm never going to use value anywhere |
| 15:42.57 | alestane | Arrays are tables, but you can make a table that has only consecutive integer keys. |
| 15:42.59 | durcyn | AckisWork: how much for just the sucking, like ten bucks? |
| 15:43.09 | End | (internally, tables are combination hash table and array...the array part is so that integer keys can be accessed more quickly, but it just looks like one table to us) |
| 15:43.18 | Matsy | But |
| 15:43.22 | Matsy | There isn't a real array? |
| 15:43.30 | End | (I'm trying to confuse you though!) |
| 15:43.30 | Matsy | Because, with Python, you have test = []; and test = {}; |
| 15:43.33 | AckisWork | durcyn: $5 |
| 15:43.40 | Matsy | And, they both mean something totally different. |
| 15:43.48 | foxlit | No. There are only tables. |
| 15:43.52 | Matsy | Aw. |
| 15:43.53 | Matsy | :( |
| 15:43.56 | foxlit | Likewise, there are only numbers. |
| 15:44.00 | durcyn | AckisWork: well, maybe i wanted two. |
| 15:44.15 | foxlit | part of the appeal, really. |
| 15:44.36 | alestane | Types in Lua are: nil, boolean, number, string, table, function, userdata and thread. |
| 15:44.38 | AckisWork | durcyn: pfft once I'm done with one you'll be done for the rest of the day |
| 15:45.21 | durcyn | i'm not drunk enough for you yet, Ackis |
| 15:45.38 | Matsy | I'm amazed threading exists. |
| 15:45.53 | Matsy | WoW should start implementing Python in the next patch |
| 15:46.31 | Matsy | I'm either too stupid, or too lazy for this language |
| 15:48.16 | durcyn | Matsy: you just haven't spent enough time around perl, or intoxicants =P |
| 15:48.24 | Matsy | Yeah |
| 15:48.24 | Matsy | ;p |
| 15:49.28 | End | I like python, but lua is probably a better fit for WoW |
| 15:49.41 | Matsy | How so? |
| 15:50.13 | End | lighter footprint, easier to sandbox, and there's the custome modifications |
| 15:50.37 | End | I'm not talking extra functions, but things like the tainting system |
| 15:50.37 | Matsy | You can make custom modifications on Python too |
| 15:50.40 | Matsy | .. oh |
| 15:50.41 | Matsy | Nvm |
| 15:50.55 | Matsy | I still have no clue what that is ;p |
| 15:50.59 | foxlit | It also has the upside of being readable. |
| 15:51.00 | Matsy | I'll never need it, thankfully |
| 15:51.07 | foxlit | vanishes before that rebounds. |
| 15:51.10 | Matsy | ... readable? |
| 15:51.11 | Matsy | what |
| 15:51.23 | Matsy | .. |
| 15:51.27 | End | addons are tainted, and anything they touch can't perform certain actions |
| 15:51.29 | Matsy | You use .. to join strings, what |
| 15:51.32 | Matsy | How is that readable :< |
| 15:51.41 | End | that way addons can't influence behavior blizzard doesn't want |
| 15:51.43 | foxlit | What did you want? |
| 15:51.46 | Hirsute | That's a fairly standard convention, in my experience. |
| 15:51.56 | Matsy | I haven't ever used it. |
| 15:52.01 | Matsy | But, I don't use too many different languages. |
| 15:52.05 | Zamoria | so self-centered :P |
| 15:52.05 | foxlit | It's an operator. It happens to be two dots. |
| 15:52.13 | Matsy | I know. |
| 15:52.17 | End | there's definitely languages that use one dot |
| 15:52.20 | Zamoria | I haven't used it therefore it's silly ;) |
| 15:52.29 | End | I always forget the operators of certain languages though |
| 15:52.38 | Matsy | Zamoria. I'm just expressing my rage at my sillyness at this language. |
| 15:52.40 | foxlit | end: php |
| 15:52.44 | Zamoria | :) |
| 15:52.46 | Matsy | When I think it could be a very interesting one |
| 15:52.46 | End | php is two? |
| 15:52.50 | End | I thought it might be one |
| 15:52.50 | Matsy | php is one. |
| 15:52.51 | foxlit | php is one. |
| 15:52.59 | End | oh, well, there you go |
| 15:53.01 | Hirsute | End: *nod* I guess i just consider 1 dot vs. 2 to be entirely cosmetic. |
| 15:53.07 | Hirsute | perl is one dot, as well. |
| 15:53.15 | foxlit | it has the advantage that you can use . for other things |
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| 15:53.26 | Matsy | I'm more a String.join() fan :( |
| 15:53.43 | foxlit | I can't imagine why. |
| 15:53.49 | End | how many dots they use only matters within the context of the definition of the language :P |
| 15:53.57 | End | well, ok, 10 dots would be too many |
| 15:53.59 | Matsy | It's because I'm totally built in .NET, foxlit. |
| 15:54.19 | nicoli_s | .net ftw |
| 15:54.27 | Matsy | I normally write stuff like this in F#. |
| 15:54.42 | Matsy | Which has a lot of nifty things |
| 15:54.43 | foxlit | It's there like a |
| 15:54.58 | foxlit | Microsoft.SuperVerbose.System.Libraries.String.join version? |
| 15:55.19 | Matsy | I dont think there's a SuperVerbose namespace |
| 15:55.28 | Matsy | Haha |
| 15:55.57 | foxlit | (and why didn't they borrow java's + operator overloading yet? Or have they?) |
| 15:56.05 | Matsy | It's System.String |
| 15:56.10 | Matsy | ... |
| 15:56.15 | Matsy | Java's + operator overloading? |
| 15:56.20 | Matsy | I only wish Java could overload operators. |
| 15:56.26 | foxlit | "foo" + "bar"; |
| 15:56.30 | Matsy | .. oh. |
| 15:56.34 | Matsy | Yeah. |
| 15:56.46 | sp0ckk | You can't overload operators in Java? |
| 15:56.47 | Matsy | C# has had that since 1.0, I presume. |
| 15:56.49 | Matsy | Nope. |
| 15:56.51 | foxlit | You can't. Thank god. |
| 15:56.53 | sp0ckk | That sucks. |
| 15:56.56 | Matsy | Indeed. |
| 15:57.06 | sp0ckk | I like C#, it's a nice language. |
| 15:57.44 | Matsy | And, it can overload, haha |
| 15:57.57 | foxlit | Repeat after me: operator overloading is evil. |
| 15:58.26 | airtonix | unholy |
| 15:58.32 | Matsy | I cannot repeat that. |
| 15:58.39 | End | not evil...it's dangerous though |
| 15:58.45 | foxlit | Then execuse me while I overload + to mean * |
| 15:58.51 | Matsy | No one does that |
| 15:58.57 | airtonix | he just did |
| 15:58.59 | End | I'm sure someone has done it |
| 15:59.02 | Matsy | Of course. |
| 15:59.46 | airtonix | s/he/it/ |
| 15:59.52 | End | there's things which operator overloading isn't so bad (such as overloading on a vector class), but it gets used in ways that don't make much sense an awful lot |
| 16:00.10 | Matsy | Hmm. |
| 16:00.12 | Hirsute | *noob question* What is operator overloading? |
| 16:00.16 | Matsy | Hirsute |
| 16:00.21 | Matsy | You can specify your own operators that way |
| 16:00.32 | Matsy | Say you have Object X and Object Y, and you want to do something when you add them |
| 16:00.43 | Matsy | You can create your own "+" operator, to add them together in a new object. |
| 16:00.54 | Matsy | At least, that's how it's used in C#. |
| 16:00.58 | Hirsute | Ah, you can do similar things with the meta table in Lua, can't you? |
| 16:01.03 | Matsy | .. I have no idea |
| 16:01.12 | foxlit | To a limited extent, yes. |
| 16:03.10 | Matsy | Hmm. |
| 16:06.31 | alestane | Nothing wrong with operator overloading; when you define a new class to the language, you should be able to tell the language what the class's semantics are. |
| 16:10.20 | Matsy | Wow |
| 16:10.25 | Matsy | My functions are actually working |
| 16:11.26 | Lunessa | station. |
| 16:14.26 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
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| 16:14.27 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 16:14.36 | Lunessa | Morning Peppy-dear. |
| 16:15.42 | Matsy | ... |
| 16:15.51 | Matsy | I'm not looking forward to doing math-related things with Lua. |
| 16:15.52 | Matsy | LOL |
| 16:16.22 | ckknight | alestane: I think the big thing wrong with operator overloading is that there usually aren't enough operators or the proper operators aren't available, so people abuse the common ones for things they're not supposed to be used for |
| 16:16.44 | Matsy | Yeah. |
| 16:16.51 | Matsy | That's evilness :< |
| 16:17.09 | Matsy | People should only use operator overloading to.. for instance, add objects. |
| 16:17.17 | alestane | Well, yes, you should only overload an operator because its semantics are appropriate to the operation it represents. |
| 16:17.24 | alestane | Not just because you can. |
| 16:17.26 | Matsy | Yeah. |
| 16:17.32 | Zamoria | *cough* C++ streams |
| 16:17.45 | Zamoria | >> & << are ebil imo |
| 16:19.46 | nicoli_s | they arent that bad |
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| 16:20.31 | ckknight | lua> local Point; local Point_mt = { __add = function(self, other) return Point(self.x + other.x, self.y + other.y) end; __tostring = function(self) return ("<%s, %s>"):format(self.x, self.y) end }; function Point(x, y) return setmetatable({x=x,y=y}, Point_mt) end; print(Point(3, 5)); print(Point(1, 2) + Point(3, 4)) |
| 16:20.32 | lua_bot | ckknight: <3, 5>, <4, 6> |
| 16:20.45 | Matsy | .... |
| 16:20.58 | Matsy | what. |
| 16:21.30 | Matsy | This is horrible. |
| 16:21.46 | Hirsute | *shakes head* Private Server User: "I need help getting an older version of your addon that will work with 2.4.3" Addon Dev:"We don't help with private servers" PSU: "faggot" Me, reading backscroll: "What the? Is he still here so I can kick him?" |
| 16:21.50 | Matsy | But, somewhat like Python. |
| 16:21.52 | Hirsute | I was sorely disappointed. |
| 16:22.18 | Matsy | I'm surprised people can actually play private servers |
| 16:22.32 | Lopeppeppy | *shrug* Power is everything. |
| 16:23.17 | Hirsute | Oh, as long as WoW stays as popular as it is, private servers will be around. They're illegal, but being illegal hasn't stopped music sharing, moving sharing, or drug using either. |
| 16:24.06 | Hirsute | Hearing someone use "faggot" as an insult, however, makes me want to hit people. |
| 16:24.19 | alestane | Lua and Python have many similarities, but Lua is simpler more streamlined, using one data structure instead of three or four. |
| 16:24.33 | nicoli_s | private servers are so much more fun to dev than to play om |
| 16:24.55 | Hirsute | -_- |
| 16:24.57 | Lopeppeppy | will bite Hirsute's enemies! |
| 16:25.05 | Hirsute | Lopeppeppy: Heh |
| 16:25.33 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr and stuff. |
| 16:26.24 | Hirsute | "eat a dick" sits slightly below "faggot" on the list of inflammatory statements that just bug the crap out of me. |
| 16:26.49 | ckknight | Matsy: metatables ftw |
| 16:27.45 | Hirsute | Okay, I've hidden from my books long enough today. Time to get back to studying. |
| 16:27.46 | Hirsute | waves |
| 16:28.00 | airtonix | lol |
| 16:28.01 | ckknight | lua> local fib = setmetatable({[0]=0,[1]=1}, {__index=function(self, i) local x = self[i - 2] + self[i - 1]; self[i] = x; return x end, __call=function(self, i) return self[i] end}); return fib(50) |
| 16:28.01 | lua_bot | ckknight: 12586269025 |
| 16:28.06 | ckknight | Matsy: ^-- |
| 16:29.34 | nevcairiel | metatables are nice for problems like fib or fac |
| 16:30.02 | ckknight | they're nice for a lot of things |
| 16:30.30 | nevcairiel | I heard a talk about OO in JS today, its somewhat similar to how Lua cheats its way into having OO |
| 16:32.20 | ckknight | yea, JS and Lua are quite similar |
| 16:33.52 | End | the differencing being that lua doesn't have a million different implementions :P |
| 16:35.02 | airtonix | does js have metatables? |
| 16:35.47 | airtonix | nvm |
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| 16:46.23 | alestane | ActionScript is even closer. |
| 16:46.52 | ckknight | ActionScript and JavaScript are both ECMAScript |
| 16:46.56 | End | ^ |
| 16:47.07 | nicoli_s | ActionScript blows |
| 16:47.40 | kneeki | GAH! |
| 16:47.54 | ckknight | trufax, nicoli_s |
| 16:47.54 | kneeki | http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/06/03/topless.shop.fire/ <- arson on the topless coffee shop =( |
| 16:50.17 | AnduinLothar | http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/06/04/obit.david.carradine/index.html?iref=topnews |
| 16:50.39 | kneeki | Also very sad |
| 16:52.09 | alestane | David Eddings and David Carradine 1-2, huh? |
| 17:02.58 | Zyndrome | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/images/druid/ss4.jpg |
| 17:03.02 | Zyndrome | girly cats |
| 17:03.19 | Lopeppeppy | Pink cats, excellent. And into the leather scene, I see. |
| 17:03.30 | Lopeppeppy | Not all of them are, but 4 of the 5 are. |
| 17:03.34 | Lopeppeppy | Wonder what the difference is. |
| 17:03.45 | Lunessa | alestane: I suppose so. Never really was a big fan of Eddings. Caradine's death appears suspicious. |
| 17:04.01 | alestane | The colors, girly maybe, but the models are fairly beastly. |
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| 17:04.51 | airtonix | lights on necks lol |
| 17:05.34 | Lopeppeppy | Those are pendant jewelry! Anyone have a link to the tauren cats, do they sport leather and jewels too? |
| 17:06.05 | Zyndrome | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/may/ss3.jpg |
| 17:06.16 | Zyndrome | just a nosering and leatherbands ;< |
| 17:06.21 | airtonix | clearly any alliance cats that had any pretense of machosim is gone now |
| 17:06.32 | airtonix | muahahaha |
| 17:06.51 | airtonix | oh hai thar darling |
| 17:07.17 | airtonix | inc rage in 5...4...3... |
| 17:07.52 | Lopeppeppy | But again, not all models show the leather bands. I'd love to know what the distinction is. |
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| 17:08.05 | airtonix | yes, all the new cats have leather bands |
| 17:08.09 | Lopeppeppy | Masochism isn't the same thing as masculinity, airtonix. |
| 17:08.18 | Lopeppeppy | Not in these pictures, airtonix. Look at the tauren yellow cat. |
| 17:08.24 | Lopeppeppy | And the one in the top left. |
| 17:08.25 | airtonix | well yes, sorry that is was i meant |
| 17:08.48 | Lopeppeppy | And for the NE, the at in the bottom right is the only oen without jewels. |
| 17:08.50 | airtonix | note the label 'old cat' |
| 17:09.21 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, so maybe the one in the top left of tauren has bands and I can't see? |
| 17:09.32 | airtonix | its there |
| 17:09.37 | airtonix | look closer |
| 17:10.11 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe my monitor sucks, that's been known to happen. :) |
| 17:10.22 | airtonix | those bands are something you'd normally see on a dog though? |
| 17:10.33 | airtonix | or frankestein |
| 17:10.45 | Lopeppeppy | Or in a leather bar. |
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| 17:40.24 | Lunessa | The words "leather bar" coming form Peppy make me wonder if I've got her all wrong. |
| 17:40.59 | alestane | If you think you've "got her", that's probably your first mistake. |
| 17:41.14 | Lopeppeppy | approves of both statements |
| 17:43.57 | kneeki | lol |
| 17:44.09 | jaggajatt | grr shun't of paid by debit card, my £9.99 transaction taking ages to go through :EEEEE banks put it on pending and WoW said it can take upto god damn 72 hours. |
| 17:44.15 | kneeki | I think it's something about how Lopeppeppy chats in IRC that makes me think he's a she as well |
| 17:44.36 | jaggajatt | theres no way to cancel the payment either :E |
| 17:45.21 | jaggajatt | nvm, I spoke to soon :E |
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| 17:46.52 | Matsy | Wooo. |
| 17:46.54 | Matsy | I voted |
| 17:46.55 | Matsy | For the first time |
| 17:47.02 | Lopeppeppy | kneeki... I say all the time that I'm one of the proven girls of the channel. Proven by way of going to Blizcon last year and having been seen and stuff. |
| 17:47.40 | kneeki | Lopeppeppy: So, you are female? |
| 17:47.44 | kneeki | PICS! |
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| 17:50.25 | Lopeppeppy | Go look at last year's Blizcon, the horrific pics are there. |
| 17:50.39 | kamdis | i'm a girl too. there are people in this channel who can verify that. |
| 17:50.42 | kamdis | ;-) |
| 17:51.17 | Lopeppeppy | And Seerah and Cairenn. I vouch for them. |
| 17:51.41 | alestane | The Gals In Real Life. |
| 17:52.58 | Lopeppeppy | Ya. |
| 17:52.59 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 17:53.03 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 17:54.16 | AckisWork | I'm a girl irl too |
| 17:54.23 | AckisWork | can i has free stuff? |
| 17:54.28 | kamdis | rofl |
| 17:54.34 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 17:54.39 | NeoTron | my daughter is a girl IRL. my son isn't though. funny how that works out. |
| 17:54.53 | AckisWork | no one here has actually met me..muhahahaha |
| 17:55.25 | Lunessa | Yeah, Seerah, Cairenn, Lopeppeppy, and Kamdis are all really girls. In a programming/nerdy channel on the interwebben |
| 17:57.13 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 17:57.16 | Lunessa | Heck, Cairenn has been corralling geeks for over a decade, Seerah is a pretty good programmer in her own right, Lopeppeppy is a pretty savy web-developer, and kamdis is an IT Lawyer. And they're all cute as a button too. It's geek paydirt. :P |
| 17:58.08 | AckisWork | Lunessa: i'm cute too |
| 17:58.22 | durcyn | Lunessa: you didn't mention which ones are single. |
| 17:58.38 | Lunessa | AckisWork: But your a man, married, and obsessed with penis. |
| 17:58.44 | AckisWork | not married |
| 17:58.46 | AckisWork | mmmm penis |
| 17:58.47 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:58.55 | AckisWork | (that might be that I'm a girl :P) |
| 17:58.56 | Lunessa | durcyn: I'm keeping that information to myself. |
| 17:59.14 | dardack | cry have to wait another 24 hours before i can attempt less-rabi again |
| 18:00.32 | Lunessa | dardack: As a shaman using untalented earthshock, that stupid achievement has escaped me. :( |
| 18:00.44 | dardack | i had a shaman with talented |
| 18:00.50 | dardack | we got it interupted at like 29% |
| 18:00.55 | dardack | he casted right at like 5% |
| 18:00.59 | dardack | and we killed him |
| 18:01.19 | durcyn | less-rabi was fun when you could still reset him and bug it out :( |
| 18:01.28 | Lunessa | the problem is Moorabi shapeshifts faster than my 6 second cooldown |
| 18:02.26 | KarlKFI | wait... there's girls on the interwebs in here? |
| 18:02.36 | KarlKFI | hides |
| 18:02.55 | dardack | Lunessa: yea i had a shaman respec intoreverb but still didn't work |
| 18:03.03 | dardack | i've also seen combat logs where it says it got interupted |
| 18:03.07 | dardack | but didn't |
| 18:03.25 | Lunessa | dardack: The best way for a shaman is DEEP Elemental, can get ES down to 4 seconds. |
| 18:03.40 | dardack | think the 5 second one is what you want |
| 18:03.40 | dardack | with low ms |
| 18:03.42 | dardack | just spam it |
| 18:03.56 | dardack | i almost thought we had it |
| 18:04.55 | Lunessa | Once, in a group with 1 rogue, 1 paladin, and me we ALOMST made it. :( |
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| 18:05.46 | dardack | rogue with ad/throwing spec |
| 18:06.07 | kamdis | Lunessa, definitely *not* and IT lawyer |
| 18:06.19 | kamdis | corporate and securities :P |
| 18:06.31 | Lunessa | Bah. My mistake. |
| 18:06.46 | ScytheBlade1 | http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1696/bing2.jpg |
| 18:06.48 | Lunessa | All we ever talk about is IT. |
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| 18:07.20 | Lothaer | morning everyone |
| 18:08.50 | kamdis | Did they fix that so he shifts back to non-mammoth form if you wipe while he's a mammoth? |
| 18:09.12 | KarlKFI | lol, nice sbo |
| 18:09.31 | ScytheBlade1 | very |
| 18:12.31 | kd3 | rofl |
| 18:12.33 | kd3 | that's hilarious |
| 18:12.47 | Lothaer | what is? |
| 18:12.59 | ScytheBlade1 | 14:06 < ScytheBlade1> http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1696/bing2.jpg |
| 18:13.03 | ScytheBlade1 | MS's search engine |
| 18:13.54 | Lothaer | LOL |
| 18:14.09 | Lothaer | its like gettin limewire pro from limewire free :D |
| 18:14.33 | durcyn | people still use limewire? |
| 18:14.43 | Lothaer | i do :D |
| 18:14.47 | Lothaer | whats the new hype? |
| 18:15.06 | ScytheBlade1 | er |
| 18:15.07 | ScytheBlade1 | .. |
| 18:15.16 | zenzelezz | wait, you mean KaZaA isn't still the pinnacle of P2P? |
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| 18:16.45 | Lothaer | ROFLMAO zen |
| 18:17.02 | Lothaer | if you want your comp to get hacked use Kazaa |
| 18:17.07 | dardack | kamdis: yes they fixed it in that when he has no agro people he vanishes |
| 18:17.07 | KarlKFI | torrent is the 'new' hype |
| 18:17.15 | dardack | so no way to get ach. except to interupt the spell |
| 18:17.22 | Lothaer | for movies and albums yes |
| 18:17.41 | Lothaer | for individual songs and pr0n use limewire :D |
| 18:18.15 | zenzelezz | surely the porn sharing happens in torrents too? |
| 18:18.17 | KarlKFI | signal to noise ration is bad for songs tho |
| 18:18.29 | Lothaer | yeah it does |
| 18:18.34 | KarlKFI | there's always usenet |
| 18:18.39 | Lothaer | torrents good for big files |
| 18:18.45 | Lothaer | LW good for singles |
| 18:19.17 | zenzelezz | I'm single and I don't fancy Limewire |
| 18:19.27 | Lothaer | rofl |
| 18:19.54 | kamdis | dardack: ah, I suppose the only way to get the achievement now is to have a party full of interrupters. |
| 18:20.02 | Lothaer | anyway what was that new "mod" that was uploaded to wowi that made use of a program to make wow playable by voice command? |
| 18:20.04 | kamdis | and leave one person to catch the super-fast one at the end. |
| 18:20.05 | dardack | kamdis: more like get lucky |
| 18:20.06 | durcyn | psh, who downloads invidual tracks anymore, i'm moving on from albums to entire discographies |
| 18:20.13 | kamdis | VoiceCommander? |
| 18:20.49 | Xinhuan | such an addon would be more of a proof of concept than something practical at this point isn't it |
| 18:20.54 | dardack | i'm dk with mindfreeze tank, i go with a dk with 4.5dps, a shaman speced into reverb for 5 second CD, and than either a rogue with AD/Throwing spec, or mage, no heals, and each time we just miss it |
| 18:21.00 | dardack | i've even seen the combat log say we interupted it |
| 18:21.03 | dardack | but it didn't |
| 18:21.13 | dardack | and ofcourse it's always right near the end so he dies |
| 18:21.18 | dardack | and i have to wait 24 hrs |
| 18:21.22 | durcyn | dardack: mind-numbing? |
| 18:21.51 | dardack | mind freeze is a dk interupt |
| 18:22.01 | durcyn | no, is the rogue using MNP |
| 18:22.08 | dardack | what's that? |
| 18:22.12 | durcyn | mind-numbing poison. |
| 18:22.15 | dardack | sorry don't play a rogue |
| 18:22.16 | dardack | what it do? |
| 18:22.19 | durcyn | cast speed slow |
| 18:22.29 | dardack | can't slow the casting time |
| 18:22.34 | durcyn | oh, carry on then. |
| 18:22.35 | Lothaer | keystroke thats what its called |
| 18:22.38 | dardack | otherwise curse of tongues or anythign like that |
| 18:22.42 | dardack | can't even silence him |
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| 18:23.02 | Lothaer | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13229-KeystrokeKeyBindingsAdd-On.html#info |
| 18:23.09 | KarlKFI | 5 pallies using fast 1 handers with haste and seal of justice? |
| 18:23.09 | dardack | i've seen ton of posts like l2p and tons where so many can't get |
| 18:23.46 | KarlKFI | oh that doesn't interupt if it doesn't stun... nm |
| 18:24.06 | KarlKFI | 5 dks? |
| 18:24.19 | dardack | KarlKFI: the problem is each 1% of health lost increases his cast time |
| 18:24.23 | dardack | i don't know the exact math |
| 18:24.36 | Lothaer | imho DKs should be able to use AotD in arenas |
| 18:24.40 | dardack | where you can interupt with low MS at 30%, but below that it's luck/timing/FoK |
| 18:24.44 | KarlKFI | so it's too short to interupt at the end? |
| 18:24.54 | dardack | KarlKFI: pretty much you gotta get lucky |
| 18:25.07 | dardack | like i've said i've seen in my combat log where it said it was succesfully interupted |
| 18:25.11 | KarlKFI | what if you just have bursty dmg? |
| 18:25.15 | dardack | but he still taansformed, it was almost instance |
| 18:25.46 | dardack | well basically from 30% you have to get it in 5 seconds (don't know if the mage counterspell still pushes it off for 8 seconds) |
| 18:25.58 | dardack | which is possible |
| 18:26.06 | dardack | i think if today we had waited for hero to be up |
| 18:26.09 | dardack | we coulda gotten |
| 18:26.11 | dardack | sigh |
| 18:26.12 | KarlKFI | so you need a lot of burst |
| 18:26.18 | KarlKFI | and interupts |
| 18:26.36 | dardack | i've heard where shamans spec'd into reverb can just spam ES |
| 18:26.50 | dardack | cause the CD is 5 seconds and his cast for next cast starts at interupt |
| 18:26.57 | dardack | but we tried didn't work |
| 18:27.08 | airtonix | 'bring the player not the class' >< |
| 18:27.09 | dardack | i really do think it's luck when his health gets under 20% |
| 18:27.35 | Taroven | Hm... Is there a blizzard func for checking if you're in the arena, aside from checking the current zone? |
| 18:28.15 | alestane | You could use UnitExists("arena1"), I guess |
| 18:28.59 | Taroven | Could do that, but not quite optimal |
| 18:29.25 | Torhal | Cairenn|afk: Yay for you! (just read your post) |
| 18:29.32 | Cairenn|afk | HEH |
| 18:29.36 | Cairenn|afk | err, sorry caps |
| 18:29.36 | krka | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_IsActiveBattlefieldArena |
| 18:29.39 | Torhal | :D |
| 18:29.53 | airtonix | all hail wowwiki! |
| 18:29.55 | Taroven | Perfect krka =D |
| 18:30.00 | Cairenn|afk | I've just had it and I'm not subjecting my staff and my community to it any longer |
| 18:30.06 | krka | in other words, learn to google |
| 18:30.09 | alestane | Hmm? |
| 18:30.11 | Torhal | Works for me. |
| 18:30.28 | Taroven | I was looking over the wowwiki api listing, didn't see it there :O |
| 18:30.50 | airtonix | we were hiding it from you |
| 18:30.56 | alestane | Cairenn|afk: What aren't you subjecting people to? |
| 18:31.02 | krka | "it" |
| 18:31.07 | krka | nooo... now i said it |
| 18:31.16 | krka | i said it again! |
| 18:31.28 | airtonix | 'very small rocks' |
| 18:31.49 | Cairenn|afk | the abuse on the site from the self-entitled jerks |
| 18:32.05 | airtonix | oxygen thieves? |
| 18:32.34 | Cairenn|afk | I critted everyone with wall-o-text for eleventy bajillion points of damage last night |
| 18:32.35 | alestane | Pull the plug on some people? |
| 18:33.13 | Maldivia | morning |
| 18:33.48 | nicoli_s | what post? |
| 18:34.09 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22069&page=72 |
| 18:35.28 | AckisWork | wow eassy |
| 18:35.28 | AckisWork | essay |
| 18:35.28 | Cairenn|afk | yup |
| 18:36.34 | Lothaer | damn Cairenn wall of text lol |
| 18:36.40 | nicoli_s | wow that is a big o block o text |
| 18:37.04 | Cairenn|afk | warned ya :p |
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| 18:37.43 | Lothaer | im totally gonna read it, and then send a email to Blizzard to add it as a achievemenyt |
| 18:38.30 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
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| 18:41.42 | AckisWork | I think my response is more assholish thatn tekkub's |
| 18:42.24 | Cairenn|afk | omg, you quoted the whole thing? |
| 18:42.30 | Cairenn|afk | edit, please |
| 18:42.45 | AckisWork | :D |
| 18:42.46 | AckisWork | heheh |
| 18:42.47 | AckisWork | <3 |
| 18:42.51 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 18:43.44 | AckisWork | when someone is banned they can't download right? |
| 18:44.09 | Cairenn|afk | correct |
| 18:44.22 | Taroven | huggles Cairenn |
| 18:44.27 | AckisWork | yay |
| 18:44.35 | Cairenn|afk | huggles Taroven |
| 18:44.37 | Taroven | Best. Rant. Ever. |
| 18:45.05 | Cairenn|afk | AckisWork: if we get to the point where we are perma-banning someone, we ban their IP as well |
| 18:45.08 | Taroven | And if I had eleventy bajillion dollars that I could give you, I'd do it in a heartbeat. =D |
| 18:45.19 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
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| 18:46.33 | AckisWork | ps editted |
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| 18:47.13 | zenzelezz | AckisWork: photoshopped!? |
| 18:47.28 | AckisWork | w0t? |
| 18:47.52 | zenzelezz | I thought it was obvious... |
| 18:50.12 | Lothaer | Cairenn if i live near you id seriously buy you a beer. |
| 18:50.17 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 18:50.26 | nicoli_s | i'd buy you some shots :P |
| 18:50.32 | Cairenn|afk | AckisWork: ROFL, just saw your edit |
| 18:50.41 | AckisWork | hehe :D |
| 18:50.47 | alestane | still needs to make her a "Deliciously Wicked Smile". |
| 18:50.55 | Cairenn|afk | grin |
| 18:52.01 | Kraps | the new nelf cats are up |
| 18:52.10 | nicoli_s | they look girly |
| 18:52.21 | Lopeppeppy | They ARE girly. |
| 18:52.27 | Lothaer | yup yup :D http://wow.incgamers.com/gallery/data/500/medium/NE_Cat.jpg |
| 18:52.53 | Kraps | the necklace has to go :( |
| 18:53.17 | KarlKFI | hope those are the female ones only... |
| 18:53.27 | KarlKFI | oh NE |
| 18:53.45 | KarlKFI | same thing |
| 18:54.38 | Taroven | Nice, me likey. |
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| 19:00.16 | airtonix | [comment about stuff] |
| 19:00.30 | Taroven | [obligatory flame] |
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| 19:00.39 | durcyn | [this is a fucking stupid meme] |
| 19:00.42 | airtonix | [qq] |
| 19:00.44 | Taroven | [yup] |
| 19:00.58 | Lunessa | Mongo only pawn in game of life. |
| 19:01.13 | zenzelezz | casts Mongo Crush! |
| 19:02.00 | zenzelezz | bets no-one has any clue what that is |
| 19:02.32 | Fisker- | you |
| 19:02.33 | nicoli_s | sounds familiar |
| 19:02.35 | Fisker- | in my mountains? |
| 19:02.41 | Fisker- | It's more likely that you think |
| 19:02.47 | nicoli_s | i used to know someone with a 3 legged dog named mongo |
| 19:02.48 | durcyn | i never played anarchy online, but i can google like a pro, zenzelezz |
| 19:03.01 | zenzelezz | durcyn: then you're better than most =) |
| 19:03.06 | zenzelezz | http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=100199 if anyone should be curious |
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| 19:05.23 | zenzelezz | for all its flaws, AO has some wicked spells. I wish my warrior had an ability that temporarily increased his size by 60%, would just look cool |
| 19:05.51 | durcyn | don't worry, they'll add Avatar into the game eventually |
| 19:05.56 | durcyn | probably give it to deathknights though |
| 19:06.17 | zenzelezz | Avatar? |
| 19:06.30 | durcyn | the WC3 mountain king ultimate |
| 19:08.57 | nicoli_s | oh wc3 |
| 19:09.05 | Dagmar | Gigantic Feast should be close enough |
| 19:09.14 | nicoli_s | man i cannot wait till sc2 |
| 19:09.16 | durcyn | you know, the RTS series that wow's based on? =P |
| 19:10.31 | Warcraft3 | hmmm |
| 19:10.54 | zenzelezz | Gigantic Feast is a poor food buff for raids :-/ |
| 19:11.11 | Dagmar | Considering that it's *not* a buff... |
| 19:11.34 | durcyn | considering that it replaces Well Fed... |
| 19:11.41 | zenzelezz | what durcyn said |
| 19:11.44 | NightHawkTheSane | techcnially, it is a buff :P |
| 19:11.45 | durcyn | postfix ellipsis attack! |
| 19:12.11 | airtonix | isnt AO getting facelift? |
| 19:12.17 | zenzelezz | so they say |
| 19:12.22 | KarlKFI | Avatar is so a pally tallent :P |
| 19:12.28 | airtonix | and starting to provide raids too? |
| 19:12.31 | nicoli_s | they still make money off AO i think |
| 19:12.49 | airtonix | as in instanced raids with boss fights |
| 19:12.52 | zenzelezz | airtonix: they have had raids for quite a while; but from what I hear they are getting better now (actual raid groups and stuff) |
| 19:12.54 | zenzelezz | yeah |
| 19:13.09 | Lopeppeppy | blows kisses. Must concentrate on work now! |
| 19:13.23 | zenzelezz | while the rest of us are left distracted |
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| 19:13.58 | zenzelezz | any time I have to move around by land in WoW I miss my AO fixer |
| 19:13.59 | NightHawkTheSane | you must be easily distracted :p |
| 19:14.20 | Lunessa | Paladins use Flash of Light and what other spell as their main heals? |
| 19:14.26 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.27 | alestane | Holy Light. |
| 19:14.27 | NightHawkTheSane | holy light |
| 19:14.39 | Lunessa | Thanks. |
| 19:14.40 | KarlKFI | holy shock lulz |
| 19:15.07 | KarlKFI | *BZZZT* You're healed! |
| 19:15.18 | Spitbag | Anyone experience with retrieving a mob's health by using its GUID? |
| 19:16.15 | KarlKFI | convert it to a unit and do UnitHealth |
| 19:16.33 | durcyn | 'convert it to a unit' is left as an exercise for the reader. |
| 19:16.35 | KarlKFI | if it's not a unit, you have to target it, eh |
| 19:16.36 | Spitbag | will that work if there are 5 units with the same name? |
| 19:16.53 | durcyn | he said convert it to a unit, not a name. |
| 19:17.16 | Spitbag | ok :) |
| 19:17.18 | Spitbag | thnx |
| 19:17.20 | durcyn | for i=1,GetNumRaidMembers() do if guid = UnitGUID('raid'..'target') do stuff end end |
| 19:17.34 | durcyn | er 'raid'..i..'target' |
| 19:17.34 | airtonix | most liklely talking about mobs? |
| 19:17.47 | KarlKFI | prolly, in which case he's SOL |
| 19:17.53 | airtonix | weeeee! |
| 19:18.11 | KarlKFI | but raid target works |
| 19:18.19 | KarlKFI | slow tho |
| 19:18.21 | Spitbag | hmm k |
| 19:18.30 | KarlKFI | provided someone's targetting it |
| 19:18.57 | KarlKFI | otherwise best you got is target by name afaik |
| 19:19.03 | Spitbag | blegh |
| 19:19.05 | durcyn | name doesn't work for hostile units |
| 19:19.10 | durcyn | last i tried |
| 19:19.13 | KarlKFI | O.o |
| 19:19.25 | KarlKFI | are you sure? |
| 19:19.33 | KarlKFI | no... i knwo it does |
| 19:19.35 | durcyn | maybe if you're targetting it? |
| 19:19.39 | Spitbag | i'm trying to show the health of all mobs appearing in combatlog that have a raidmark |
| 19:19.43 | KarlKFI | ... that's what i said... |
| 19:19.54 | KarlKFI | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:20.05 | durcyn | UnitHealth("Malygos") =P |
| 19:20.20 | KarlKFI | i said target it, not use it as a unit |
| 19:20.24 | durcyn | Spitbag: you're better off just doing target scanning |
| 19:20.36 | Spitbag | k |
| 19:20.37 | durcyn | Spitbag: take a look at MagicTargets as an example of a mod that already does what you're talking about |
| 19:20.48 | Spitbag | ok i will :) |
| 19:20.52 | Spitbag | thanks for the tips :) |
| 19:21.09 | durcyn | KarlKFI: oh, i thought we were still on unit tokens |
| 19:22.14 | KarlKFI | personally i'd say set a UNIT_TARGET listener and cache unit targets |
| 19:22.29 | KarlKFI | that works for raid members, right? |
| 19:22.36 | KarlKFI | or... maybe it doesn't |
| 19:23.09 | jnwhiteh | afaik it does |
| 19:23.34 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 19:23.37 | KarlKFI | yeah it should |
| 19:23.44 | KarlKFI | i know spell casts work for raid members |
| 19:23.48 | NeoTron | ah |
| 19:23.52 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 19:23.54 | NeoTron | I like that idea |
| 19:24.11 | NeoTron | need to remake Magic Targets to do that instead of scanning raid target |
| 19:24.14 | NeoTron | should be more effective |
| 19:24.15 | Fisker- | hey jnwhiteh |
| 19:24.19 | jnwhiteh | hi Fisker- |
| 19:24.37 | Fisker- | :( |
| 19:24.44 | NeoTron | specifically I'd just have to scan the known targets (X) vs the target of each member (Y) |
| 19:24.50 | NeoTron | X is always < than Y |
| 19:24.52 | KarlKFI | maybe not more effective, but faster retrieval by a lot |
| 19:25.00 | Matsy | Bleh |
| 19:25.10 | NeoTron | the difference might be minimal though, not sure |
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| 19:25.25 | NeoTron | but in the case where you have 25 people and 3 mobs |
| 19:25.32 | NeoTron | scanning 3 mobs is faster than scanning 25 people |
| 19:25.35 | KarlKFI | put the known targets in a hash table |
| 19:25.43 | KarlKFI | ya |
| 19:26.01 | NeoTron | I still need to scan the current targets to see whom they are targeting, their health etc |
| 19:26.14 | KarlKFI | why's that? |
| 19:26.33 | NeoTron | because .. I need to know who they are targeting and what their health is? |
| 19:26.54 | KarlKFI | oh oh got it |
| 19:27.03 | KarlKFI | constantly |
| 19:27.05 | NeoTron | right |
| 19:27.21 | NeoTron | I could use the CLEU to update health too |
| 19:27.28 | KarlKFI | you can thread that |
| 19:27.30 | NeoTron | which I probably should for targets NOT targeted by someone |
| 19:27.56 | KarlKFI | coroutine the update thread |
| 19:27.56 | jnwhiteh | wow |
| 19:28.05 | NeoTron | well it's not exactly slow |
| 19:28.05 | jnwhiteh | the pets from the tourney go for a lot of money |
| 19:28.18 | NeoTron | like it works fine today scanning 25 people + focus/mouse over if set |
| 19:28.38 | KarlKFI | 1 addon isn't slow, no... |
| 19:28.46 | KarlKFI | but be nice to the rest of us |
| 19:28.59 | NightHawkTheSane | jnwhiteh: seeing as it takes ~8 days to get the seals to purchase one.. |
| 19:29.17 | jnwhiteh | NightHawkTheSane: so? :P |
| 19:29.24 | jnwhiteh | i get a few more of them |
| 19:29.38 | jnwhiteh | and i can make sure my bf gets his epic flying mount :P |
| 19:29.59 | NeoTron | KarlKFI: I currently update 10 times per second |
| 19:30.10 | KarlKFI | >.< |
| 19:30.21 | NeoTron | it'd be a lot more efficient (even if I do avoid "heavy work" on duplicate targets) to keep track of target changes with events |
| 19:30.33 | KarlKFI | yes, it would |
| 19:35.11 | Thunder_Child | which is greater, 1% more dmg or 1% crit chance? |
| 19:35.23 | KarlKFI | dmg usually |
| 19:35.36 | Thunder_Child | k, thanks |
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| 19:36.25 | KarlKFI | pretty much always, unless it's weapon dmg |
| 19:36.30 | KarlKFI | or spell dmg |
| 19:36.30 | nicoli_s | anyone here know how to make an entire image a % alpha using GIMP? |
| 19:36.51 | Fisker- | your mom is 1% crit chance |
| 19:37.04 | KarlKFI | what's a mom crit look like? |
| 19:37.12 | Thunder_Child | KarlKFI, the choice was 1pt in sanc or 1pt in crusade |
| 19:37.27 | KarlKFI | crusade |
| 19:37.48 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=9521443152&sid=1&pageNo=1#8 <-FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- |
| 19:38.29 | KarlKFI | lol |
| 19:38.50 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, see comment #1 |
| 19:38.56 | Thunder_Child | sounds like me |
| 19:40.14 | Fisker- | remember account name |
| 19:40.31 | Thunder_Child | more than one that can not be linked |
| 19:40.47 | Fisker- | ? |
| 19:41.04 | Thunder_Child | more than one account. and they can not be linked |
| 19:41.11 | Fisker- | why not? |
| 19:41.40 | Thunder_Child | different names |
| 19:41.52 | Fisker- | cool tos-breaking story, bro |
| 19:42.15 | Thunder_Child | nope, i use 2 last names |
| 19:42.27 | KarlKFI | owned |
| 19:42.30 | Thunder_Child | both are leagal |
| 19:42.44 | Matsy | bangs head into wall |
| 19:42.51 | Fisker- | then get it changed |
| 19:43.03 | Thunder_Child | bloody hard |
| 19:43.06 | Fisker- | also last i checked you can merge regardless of the registered owner on the account |
| 19:43.29 | Thunder_Child | seems kinda fishy |
| 19:44.18 | mikma | dk tanking, 275 hp or +10 all stats? |
| 19:44.23 | mikma | chest that is... |
| 19:44.34 | Matsy | +10 |
| 19:44.42 | Matsy | well |
| 19:44.49 | Matsy | Oh, dk |
| 19:44.51 | Matsy | I dont know :< |
| 19:44.59 | mikma | agility, str, sta .. |
| 19:45.10 | Matsy | Yeah |
| 19:45.11 | Matsy | I'd go for that |
| 19:45.13 | KarlKFI | INT! |
| 19:45.18 | NeoTron | spirit |
| 19:45.21 | NeoTron | important for tanking |
| 19:45.26 | Matsy | HP regen |
| 19:45.27 | Matsy | wooo |
| 19:45.40 | NeoTron | I used 275 HP once solely for Mr Sartharion |
| 19:45.49 | Fisker- | oops |
| 19:45.52 | Fisker- | pulled 5 packs ;_; |
| 19:47.09 | Matsy | At? |
| 19:48.14 | Fisker- | before hodir |
| 19:48.28 | Fisker- | 3 packs of snakes and 2 packs of ice elementals |
| 19:48.42 | Fisker- | and half the raid was like "LOLOLOL AOE" |
| 19:48.51 | Fisker- | Then i was like "stfu 90% damage reduction vs. aoe" |
| 19:48.52 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 19:49.11 | airtonix | they don't listen |
| 19:49.25 | airtonix | can't hear you above the din of the keys being facerolled |
| 19:52.07 | Lunessa | in all cases +10 All Stats > +Straight Health |
| 19:53.11 | NeoTron | Lunessa: except when all that matter is having more health |
| 19:54.08 | Lunessa | I've been playing my Demonology 'lock a lot lately. I'm considering binding half my keyboard to simple macros including /petattack /cast spell" and the other half to macros that do "/point /lol" and mashing my face on the keybaord for profit. |
| 19:55.43 | Adys | ~ping |
| 19:55.44 | purl | ~pong |
| 19:55.52 | Adys | youtube down? |
| 20:00.53 | Arrowmaster | Adys: i think |
| 20:01.18 | Thunder_Child | therefore you are? |
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| 20:09.52 | Mystical | Hi there, is it okay to ask for UI-Design feedback here? |
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| 20:10.54 | jnwhiteh | sure |
| 20:11.40 | Mystical | http://forsaken.homeip.net/wow_frames2.jpg player frame only so far, only a photoshop "preview" because i still dont exactly know how the layout will be |
| 20:12.24 | Mystical | health / mana text will be there of course |
| 20:12.44 | Matsy | What happened to your mana\ |
| 20:12.45 | Matsy | ;o |
| 20:13.01 | Matsy | It's all empty.. and all :( |
| 20:13.09 | Thunder_Child | will it have options? eg. to get rid of the images and extend the tezt area |
| 20:13.11 | Thunder_Child | text* |
| 20:13.12 | foxlit | So, 4x druid: top 1 healing done spell: wild growth |
| 20:13.38 | Mystical | its no ingame shot ^^ just made it in photoshop for a preview how its gonna look like |
| 20:14.14 | Mystical | coding before thinking is never a good thing ;) |
| 20:14.32 | Matsy | I'm amazed you can even code in Lua |
| 20:14.35 | Matsy | is still banging his head |
| 20:15.50 | Mystical | Thunder_Child: you mean full text instead of icons? |
| 20:17.16 | Thunder_Child | Mystical, correct. personaly i would rather have class/faction text instead of icons |
| 20:17.30 | Thunder_Child | so i am wondering if you will have options for that |
| 20:17.46 | Thunder_Child | just curiosity |
| 20:20.09 | Mystical | im not fixed to this layout, its just what came out after trying around some hours till it looked clean and usable ;) i will have a look at it without icons |
| 20:20.33 | KarlKFI | icons are prettier |
| 20:20.58 | Mystical | guess that tells me to option it |
| 20:21.16 | KarlKFI | options are for people that care |
| 20:21.26 | KarlKFI | he's not gonna use your ui anyway, dont listen to him |
| 20:21.43 | Mystical | heheh |
| 20:22.43 | Thunder_Child | ...he's right |
| 20:23.24 | Thunder_Child | but other people might that have the same...wants |
| 20:23.40 | Mystical | that what i thought |
| 20:23.47 | KarlKFI | then they can make their own UI! unit frames are a dime a dozen |
| 20:24.08 | Mystical | i dont think KarlKFI will use mine ui either ;) |
| 20:24.22 | KarlKFI | nope! |
| 20:24.32 | KarlKFI | unless it's AWESOMELON |
| 20:24.55 | Thunder_Child | does that translate into sane person speak? |
| 20:25.06 | KarlKFI | I use diablo orbs, so no |
| 20:25.46 | Mystical | nice one hehe |
| 20:26.09 | KarlKFI | i need to make me some mini orbs for raid bars tho :) |
| 20:26.09 | Thunder_Child | garish wastes for screen realestate |
| 20:26.09 | Thunder_Child | s/for/of/ |
| 20:26.27 | Fisker- | road to BiS sucks |
| 20:26.29 | KarlKFI | i have LOTS of screen realestate |
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| 20:26.44 | Thunder_Child | KarlKFI, so do i...doesnt mean i want it filled |
| 20:26.58 | KarlKFI | FILL IT ALL! |
| 20:27.10 | Thunder_Child | thats what....nvm |
| 20:27.42 | Fisker- | almost got 12% hit |
| 20:28.15 | KarlKFI | she said? |
| 20:28.39 | foxlit | Grr |
| 20:28.59 | foxlit | I've got a model that's anchored to TOPLEFT. |
| 20:29.11 | foxlit | And a texture whose TOPRIGHT is anchored to the same TOPLEFT as the model. |
| 20:29.22 | foxlit | So it should look like texture | model with no pixel boundary |
| 20:29.26 | foxlit | Yet the model overlaps the texture. |
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| 20:35.49 | tekkub | I have only two things to say about FFXIV online... |
| 20:35.56 | tekkub | OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGGALKA! |
| 20:35.58 | tekkub | and... |
| 20:36.04 | tekkub | where the fuck is his tail? |
| 20:36.35 | zenzelezz | FFXIV online? Is that some new FF MMO? |
| 20:36.41 | tekkub | da |
| 20:36.58 | tekkub | http://ps3.kombo.com/article.php?artid=10125 |
| 20:37.36 | tekkub | if it twernt for galkas, I might never have played wow |
| 20:37.38 | zenzelezz | which was the other one, FFXI? I remember we used to have a guy in our casual-clan for Battlefield 1942 who started playing that, and we rarely ever saw him again... |
| 20:37.46 | tekkub | although I probably would have for the dorfs and tauren |
| 20:38.11 | Arrowmaster | XIV???? |
| 20:38.11 | tekkub | FFXI was beautiful, but forcing groups to level was very unfun |
| 20:38.23 | Arrowmaster | 14? |
| 20:38.30 | Arrowmaster | i didnt think 13 was even out yet |
| 20:38.35 | tekkub | I only got to 42 thanks to getting a static party to level with... the damn cap was 75 |
| 20:39.22 | Thunder_Child | 42..... |
| 20:39.30 | KarlKFI | RAWR Realestate http://www.mypicx.com/uploadimg/266254762_06042009_1.jpg |
| 20:40.43 | KarlKFI | usually my praid is top left, i think i had it down there so i could toss heals, since ret pallies have infinite mana on that fight |
| 20:40.44 | Dagmar | Hmm... All that customization and then the default target frame front and center |
| 20:40.54 | KarlKFI | it's not actually default |
| 20:41.04 | tekkub | TC, it was actually 42WHM and 42 BLM, ironically enough |
| 20:41.07 | Dagmar | It looks it |
| 20:41.08 | KarlKFI | it's just not replaced |
| 20:41.23 | tekkub | (i.e. 42 priest and 42 mage) |
| 20:41.24 | KarlKFI | it's augmented, tho you cant tell when he's dead |
| 20:41.31 | kneeki | Wow KarlKFI ... |
| 20:41.36 | airtonix | lol decursive [bug eyed lawl] |
| 20:41.39 | Mystical | yea really nice |
| 20:41.41 | Dagmar | Someday people will get over their Diablo fetish |
| 20:41.46 | kneeki | I do ver much like the bottom bar |
| 20:41.53 | kneeki | Dagmar: NEVAR! |
| 20:42.01 | Mystical | Dagmar: no!! diablo 3 coming soon |
| 20:42.04 | Mystical | :D |
| 20:42.10 | zenzelezz | sheesh KarlKFI, those are some huge balls |
| 20:42.13 | kneeki | My life will be consumed by that game |
| 20:42.20 | Dagmar | Yeah but those spheres are seriously suboptimal for what we need to know about 'em |
| 20:42.37 | KarlKFI | :-D easy to see without lookign at |
| 20:42.48 | zenzelezz | fair enough |
| 20:42.51 | Dagmar | Yeah but putting them in the corners? Yuck |
| 20:43.13 | KarlKFI | i normally dps or tank. i just need to see them, not click them most of the time |
| 20:43.18 | zenzelezz | he tried putting them in the middle of the screen, but it was hard to keep an overview then Dagmar |
| 20:43.25 | Dagmar | I'm having to do serious revamping just so that I can watch the actual monsters instead of just watching cooldowns and prelights on my DK |
| 20:43.41 | Mystical | lol n1 zenzelezz |
| 20:44.11 | Dagmar | Well, trying to do it without the whole thing turning into Mavis Beacon Plays World Of Warcraft |
| 20:44.14 | airtonix | what are the coloured squares above right of the large red ball KarlKFI ? |
| 20:44.24 | KarlKFI | ChatBar |
| 20:44.42 | Dagmar | The first run through with PowerAura heavily working, I really might as well have been playing a flash-card game |
| 20:45.54 | KarlKFI | hmm, i need a mail icon broker thing |
| 20:46.04 | KarlKFI | then i can get those last 3 minimap icons off |
| 20:46.12 | airtonix | pMinimap |
| 20:46.17 | airtonix | begone with those icons |
| 20:46.34 | Dagmar | SexyMap ends minimap pox |
| 20:46.40 | Dagmar | ...or at least until you mouse over it. |
| 20:46.54 | KarlKFI | i dont want a whole minimap replacement, i have one |
| 20:47.09 | KarlKFI | just need to move the mail icon to the barmob |
| 20:47.16 | durcyn | there's a Broker_Mail out there somewhere |
| 20:47.17 | KarlKFI | ninjapanel* |
| 20:47.20 | Cralor` | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12522-BrokerGotMail.html? |
| 20:47.26 | Dagmar | I use it with the simple square theme, so it pretty much looks like the default, sans all the damn mini buttons |
| 20:47.45 | KarlKFI | here we go http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12522-BrokerGotMail.html |
| 20:47.48 | durcyn | http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker_mail |
| 20:47.49 | airtonix | so do you sit 5 feet from your screen KarlKFI ? |
| 20:47.51 | KarlKFI | ya lol |
| 20:48.03 | KarlKFI | ya to the link not the ? |
| 20:48.03 | Cralor` | lol Karl just linked that :) |
| 20:48.15 | KarlKFI | :P |
| 20:48.16 | Cralor` | ya i put that in on accident. still works tho |
| 20:48.27 | Dagmar | Hmm... needs to show when mails will go bouncing into the nether |
| 20:48.35 | Dagmar | I've *always* got mail in my boxes |
| 20:48.42 | Dagmar | ...as do most auction wh*r*s |
| 20:49.04 | Dagmar | MailExpiryFu has been keeping me from having sackfuls of eternals from disappearing |
| 20:49.06 | KarlKFI | no airtonix, only 3 |
| 20:49.12 | Cralor` | speaking of mail, you get mine karl? |
| 20:49.25 | airtonix | most of the UI is blurry |
| 20:49.58 | KarlKFI | the orb holders are highly scaled, ya |
| 20:51.02 | KarlKFI | hard to find good textures at that res |
| 20:51.49 | KarlKFI | had to make the middle part of the bar myself |
| 20:52.17 | KarlKFI | but it's always covered with buttons so you cant tell how much it sucks |
| 20:53.00 | Pharaunmizz | Random question: is it typically more efficient to store data in a table or a longer concat'd string? Just for storage, not for actually using it |
| 20:53.46 | KarlKFI | string for file size, but table is sufficient unless you're storing megabites of info |
| 20:54.18 | Pharaunmizz | it's already on the order of megabytes, so... yea :D I figured strings would be more compact |
| 20:54.37 | Cralor` | random fact of the day: tutrtles can breathe through their butts |
| 20:54.38 | KarlKFI | just makes processing slower and debugging harder |
| 20:55.00 | KarlKFI | ya i got your email cralor |
| 20:55.11 | Pharaunmizz | Ideally almost all processing will be handled on an external server, so I think that won't be too much of a problem |
| 20:55.14 | KarlKFI | you cant just show it cause it's parented to the options frame |
| 20:55.22 | Cralor` | k |
| 20:55.33 | KarlKFI | you have to use the blizzard api for it |
| 20:55.52 | KarlKFI | as for the dropdown not working i'd prolly have to see code |
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| 21:03.24 | zenzelezz | "ORB OF DECEPTION on ah 2800 gold"... maybe I'm just cheap, but I can't imagine anyone paying more than a fraction for that |
| 21:04.27 | Mystical | can someone tell me what's the diffrence between the first 2 and the following 2 parts in backdrop border textures? both seem so be left + right side textures |
| 21:05.45 | Dagmar | There's a degree to which I wish the AH would track when something's being listed over 300% of the normal rate, and just make the user pay an extra 10x the deposit |
| 21:06.27 | zenzelezz | Mystical: I can't remember much about that, but I do remember having a hard time getting them right... I wonder if two of them got rotated, so they actually are top/bottom |
| 21:06.29 | Dagmar | There's literally no way that orb is worth even half that |
| 21:07.09 | airtonix | it's worth whater someone pays for it |
| 21:07.13 | airtonix | whatever* |
| 21:07.46 | Dagmar | No, it's not. |
| 21:08.07 | Mystical | hmm okay i guess that's it, now you say it i notice there are no top/bottom edges (at least not in the right direction) |
| 21:08.15 | Dagmar | That it was *still* in the AH for that much somewhat shows that even by that lame standard, it's _not_ worth that much |
| 21:08.21 | zenzelezz | even back in the day it didn't cost more than ~500 as far as I can recall (on my realm), I can't really see it costing more these days... even if people have more gold now |
| 21:08.22 | kamdis | I paid 200g for mine back in vanilla... |
| 21:08.49 | kamdis | it's so much easier to go farm now, I'd have to agree it'd be worth less rather than more. |
| 21:10.14 | Dagmar | The guy with it spawns like every six hours. You just have to be sure you trust the people who came with you not to just jack you at the last minute, since it's FFA PvP |
| 21:10.39 | Dagmar | I seem to remember there being an annoying goblin who announces when the fattie spawns |
| 21:11.42 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 21:12.12 | Lunessa | "A thing is worth what it's purchaser will pay for it." ~Adam Smith "There's a sucker born every minute." ~attributed to P.T. Barnum - The thing is, a transaction occurs when both parties feel they're getting what they want and a price they can bear. "Worth" is relative to that. |
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| 21:13.00 | Lunessa | And I got mine from a chest in the swamp in Outland. |
| 21:13.01 | zenzelezz | "A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on" |
| 21:13.15 | Arrowmaster | 926MB update for a 360 game takes a long time to download |
| 21:13.27 | zenzelezz | Arrowmaster: eek, what game is that? |
| 21:13.36 | Arrowmaster | burnout paradise |
| 21:14.22 | Dagmar | Lunessa: That fails to take into account "duress" sales and gouging. |
| 21:15.02 | Dagmar | Those axioms are only true as long as a) there are other options and b) no *truly* malicious players have entered the market |
| 21:15.47 | airtonix | so after hoping noone is going to gank you while trying to get this vanity trinket, you then have what chance of it dropping? |
| 21:15.56 | Dagmar | Far as I know 3/3 |
| 21:16.04 | Dagmar | That fattie has dropped it every time i've killed him |
| 21:16.10 | airtonix | Skarr the Unbreakable ? |
| 21:16.13 | Dagmar | Yeah |
| 21:16.27 | Hirsute | It's about 20%, as I recall. |
| 21:16.28 | Dagmar | He's definitely got a respectable number of hitpoints for his level |
| 21:16.51 | Hirsute | And, they regularly sell for 5-900g on my server. |
| 21:16.52 | Lunessa | There's no real coercion in the Auction House. :) |
| 21:17.23 | zenzelezz | <Dagmar> Those axioms are only true as long as a) there are other options and b) no *truly* malicious players have entered the market <--- for a while back in vanilla, a friend of mine was an alchemist. Every weekend he'd buy every Oily Blackmouth from the AH and make Free Action Potions out of them, since (apparently) people used them in battlegrounds |
| 21:17.33 | zenzelezz | he claimed to make a decent amount from it |
| 21:17.47 | kd3 | cornering the market is a great way to make money |
| 21:17.50 | Dagmar | He was probably the only one bothering |
| 21:17.55 | zenzelezz | I imagine so |
| 21:17.58 | kd3 | just be prepared to have a lot of cash/time on your hands |
| 21:18.00 | zenzelezz | it's not like it was hard to fish |
| 21:18.02 | Dagmar | "cornering" the market is a great way to weaken a market |
| 21:18.20 | Dagmar | Folks stop checking the AH when they "know" that everything will be egregiously overpriced. |
| 21:18.33 | Dagmar | ...and you sure as hell can't use the trade channel for trade anymore. |
| 21:18.46 | Lunessa | Cornering a market when the only impediment to entry is willingess to invest time is a difficult venture. |
| 21:18.53 | kd3 | wait, wait... people are still in /2? |
| 21:18.57 | airtonix | didnt you know? trade is where you learn how to play your class.... |
| 21:19.19 | Lunessa | No, /2 is where you go to call someone who won loot over you a ninja! |
| 21:19.33 | airtonix | lulz |
| 21:19.51 | Dagmar | Yeah I'm about >< close to just writing an auto-ignore addon |
| 21:20.05 | airtonix | trade-filter ? |
| 21:20.07 | Lunessa | A guy spent 3 days calling me one in /2 when I rolled for and beat him on a trinket. *shrug* |
| 21:20.18 | Hirsute | <--Still trades in /2 quite a bit. |
| 21:20.27 | Dagmar | Maybe Blizz should start requiring the people who get the banhammer for anal/chucknorris spam to tell three of their friends "Yes, they'll smack you down for that" |
| 21:20.53 | Hirsute | Of course, it's because I've got an filtering addon that lets me build a custom blacklist to filter against. |
| 21:20.57 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: not uncommon on my server also |
| 21:21.09 | Hirsute | I haven't seen guild recruitment, anal spam, or chuck norris spam in trade in months. |
| 21:21.12 | AckisWork | @project cnf |
| 21:21.13 | airtonix | recruiting in trade is lulz |
| 21:21.14 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/cnf/. Chuck Norris Facts. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Lothaer (Author). Updated: 16 hours ago |
| 21:21.15 | AckisWork | Dagmar: ^ |
| 21:21.30 | Dagmar | Hirsuite: I spent about five years on EFnet writing code in tcl (*vomit*) to handle bot floods automatically |
| 21:21.38 | Hirsute | Heh |
| 21:21.48 | Lunessa | tcl *shudder* |
| 21:22.10 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: eggdrop? |
| 21:22.13 | Dagmar | AckisWork: Personally, I'd ban that user from the site |
| 21:22.19 | Dagmar | zenzeless: yes. |
| 21:22.26 | AckisWork | Dagmar: look at the author :P |
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| 21:22.32 | Dagmar | :) |
| 21:22.42 | Arrowmaster | http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/craigslist-deal-reportedly-turns-into-robbery-at-rallys-147372.html |
| 21:22.43 | Lunessa | I have general, trade, and defense channels in their own tab, and I only click them if I need those features. My WoW time is vastly improved thereby. |
| 21:22.52 | Arrowmaster | stupid bitch is lucky she didnt get murdered too |
| 21:23.06 | Arrowmaster | welcome to dayton ohio, homicide capital of the US |
| 21:23.08 | Hirsute | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/tift.aspx <--That's my addon. It's a bit clunky to configure, because I don't know the first thing about gui creation, but it filters things like I like it to. |
| 21:23.30 | Dagmar | I fail to see how Craigslist being involved has any impact on the advisability of meeting strangers in a parking lot in the dark |
| 21:23.43 | Arrowmaster | seriously |
| 21:23.57 | Arrowmaster | WHO THE FUCK TRIES TO SELL A 5-CARET DIAMOND ON CRAGSLIST! |
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| 21:24.07 | KarlKFI | insurance $ |
| 21:24.09 | Dagmar | LIke, puh-lease... You're selling a 5-carat diamond and you're willing to meet a stranger in a dark parking lot to make a cash transaction? |
| 21:24.14 | Dagmar | How damn stupid are you? |
| 21:24.18 | Lunessa | You ask how I know of Toledo, Ohio well I spent a week there one day... |
| 21:24.33 | nicoli_s | i'd sell a diamond on craigslist |
| 21:24.43 | nicoli_s | i'd sell the hope diamond i got on there, to the right bidder |
| 21:24.58 | Dagmar | nicoli_s: Yeah but you'd probably show a little more sense about where to meet the buyer |
| 21:25.19 | nicoli_s | in the restroom where the crackheads and junkies hang out right? |
| 21:25.23 | Dagmar | Sure! |
| 21:26.36 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: i'm pretty sure Dayton has a ways to go before it catches up with detroit and new orleans |
| 21:26.58 | Arrowmaster | no dayton was the top for a while |
| 21:29.54 | airtonix | hasn't mutant chronicles already been to the theatre? |
| 21:29.57 | airtonix | like last year? |
| 21:31.05 | nicoli_s | i heard that movie was pretty horrible |
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| 21:40.03 | Lunessa | Someone bring me a sammich and a cookie? |
| 21:40.27 | Cralor` | ates it |
| 21:40.53 | Lunessa | cries |
| 21:41.22 | Cralor` | did you know turtles can breathe with their butt? |
| 21:42.27 | Hirsute | I had a roomate once who I think could do that. |
| 21:43.24 | Cralor` | oO |
| 21:43.52 | Hirsute | He was, perhaps, one of the most disgusting people I've ever met. |
| 21:44.01 | Hirsute | (and funny) |
| 21:44.10 | Cralor` | lol |
| 21:44.16 | Hirsute | He was quite pleased to demonstrate to me how he could summon flatulence on demand. |
| 21:44.51 | Cralor` | yummy |
| 21:45.25 | Lunessa | Hirsute: ... This is why the lucifer match was invented... to cure such people of their disgusting habit. |
| 21:45.45 | Hirsute | The lucifer match? |
| 21:45.51 | Hirsute | goes and googles |
| 21:45.57 | KarlKFI | hides |
| 21:46.39 | kd3 | wtfs at the chromium codebase |
| 21:46.43 | Hirsute | Ah, it's just a normal match. |
| 21:46.49 | airtonix | wtf! |
| 21:46.51 | Hirsute | I never knew they were called "lucifer" matches. |
| 21:46.51 | kd3 | 650MB in a tarbalL? |
| 21:47.05 | airtonix | wtf dude! |
| 21:49.53 | Dagmar | You don't see "strike-anywhere" matches for sale much anymore because they're prone to striking inside teh box |
| 21:50.07 | Dagmar | Mainly you just see wooden "strike on the box" matches |
| 21:50.27 | KarlKFI | which never work damp |
| 21:50.48 | Dagmar | That's why we have Zippo's. |
| 21:51.01 | airtonix | and tnt |
| 21:51.22 | Hirsute | There's "strike anywhere" tnt? |
| 21:51.26 | Hirsute | goes and googles |
| 21:51.42 | KarlKFI | lol |
| 21:52.12 | Hirsute | Sadly, it appears there is not. |
| 21:53.07 | Dagmar | It's called "old TNT" |
| 21:53.13 | Dagmar | ...or "sweaty dynamite" |
| 21:54.06 | Hirsute | Dagmar: I'd call that "goblin TNT" myself.... |
| 21:54.30 | Hirsute | "Warning: If you look at this Dynamite wrong, it might blow up." |
| 21:54.42 | kd3 | goblin TNT would be full of win |
| 21:55.13 | kd3 | no need for blasting caps... just breath on it wrong |
| 21:55.39 | kd3 | s/breath/breathe/ |
| 21:56.29 | Arrowmaster | im perty sure i have a box of 'strike-anywhere' matches somewhere |
| 21:57.07 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2009/06/boom_drink_how_to_make_explodi.php |
| 21:57.16 | Arrowmaster | they might not actually be 'strike-anywhere' but i know you can light them on many things, including the classic jeans zipper |
| 21:59.39 | kd3 | mikma; lol |
| 22:01.25 | mikma | Dear Helen, |
| 22:01.25 | mikma | They are very small ducks. |
| 22:01.26 | mikma | Regards, David. |
| 22:01.36 | mikma | ... 7 legged spider -man at the work again |
| 22:01.39 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2009/06/the_ducks_are_not_mine_david_t.php |
| 22:03.29 | kd3 | lol |
| 22:03.53 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2009/06/just_doing_my_job_2009_pole_da.php <- hubba hubba :D |
| 22:04.21 | Lunessa | Sheesh... FaceBook just delivered up a bunch more folks as "people I may know" and connecting irc/character/handles to real names is making me nuts. |
| 22:05.25 | AckisWork | lol |
| 22:07.11 | Lunessa | Don't laugh too hard Ackis... took me a week to figure out your request was you. |
| 22:07.20 | mikma | haha, http://www.explosionsandboobs.com/ |
| 22:07.30 | mikma | (press reload ^^) |
| 22:08.31 | AckisWork | Lunessa: you're one step ahead of me and I've been told who you are about 5x |
| 22:08.53 | Lunessa | heh. |
| 22:09.30 | mikma | kd3: you will most likely love this one! http://www.geekologie.com/2009/06/literal_video_total_eclipse_of.php |
| 22:09.40 | AckisWork | Adys: ping |
| 22:09.49 | Adys | pong |
| 22:10.01 | AckisWork | Adys: http://www.warcraftpets.com/news/archives/?m=6&y=2009#jade_panda |
| 22:10.20 | AckisWork | you were asking the other day, just saw that |
| 22:10.33 | Adys | will check in a bit |
| 22:10.50 | kd3 | lmfao |
| 22:11.40 | theorbtwo | According to facebook, my middle name is "Theorbtwo". |
| 22:12.36 | Lunessa | What's worse, is Facebook found two women I dated one time each and added them to "people I may know" - How did it make that connection?> |
| 22:12.51 | theorbtwo | Lunessa: Friends of friends? |
| 22:13.03 | Lunessa | I don't think so. |
| 22:13.27 | foxlit | Lunessa: secret, all-pervasive spy network |
| 22:13.33 | kamdis | six degrees of Lunessa? |
| 22:13.38 | Lunessa | foxlit: I bet. :) |
| 22:14.11 | Lunessa | kamdis: hehe, that would be funny. |
| 22:14.50 | mikma | tekkub: http://www.geekologie.com/2009/05/make_anything_taste_delicious.php |
| 22:14.51 | airtonix | Once I ate leftover chinese that had been kept in an unsealed container and I experienced complete awareness. |
| 22:15.42 | tekkub | barf |
| 22:18.42 | Lunessa | ... Bacon should not be a creamy spread. EVER |
| 22:19.13 | Dagmar | "should" is clearly a negotiable term and subject to the viewpoints of people who should be legally barred from expressing them. |
| 22:19.30 | Dagmar | There's a freaking bacon-flavored "personal lubricant" now. |
| 22:19.40 | Dagmar | is not even a little bit kidding. |
| 22:19.44 | Hirsute | pardon me while I go vomit |
| 22:20.22 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Made by the same company who makes this travesty. |
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| 22:28.16 | NeoTron | Dagmar: everyhing is better with bacon |
| 22:28.35 | Dagmar | No. |
| 22:28.57 | mikma | yes. |
| 22:33.20 | Lunessa | LOL - http://dearjanesample.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/fun-with-brands/ |
| 22:33.20 | Dagmar | Flay the skin off one of your hands, and then put a nice slice of bacon on the wound. |
| 22:34.13 | mikma | replace your brains with bacon. |
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| 22:43.38 | KarlKFI | bacon...... TACOS! |
| 22:43.52 | KarlKFI | why didn't i think of this earlier! |
| 22:43.59 | mikma | chocolate tacos |
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| 22:48.47 | Lunessa | Bacon is a excellent source of flavor in food, but not everything is improved by it. |
| 22:59.31 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, such as? |
| 22:59.50 | Lunessa | Peanut butter is not improved by bacon. |
| 23:00.04 | Thunder_Child | have you tried it? |
| 23:00.13 | Lunessa | Sadly, yes. |
| 23:01.51 | goris29 | if i have an addon that contains two seperate lua files for different frames, can i call a method from one frame that does Frame1:show() in a different lua file that doesnt contain that method |
| 23:02.14 | Kraps | does it pay to drop http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43414 and get http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43427? |
| 23:02.45 | Kraps | i have http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43415 |
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| 23:19.37 | Thunder_Child | whats the macro command to auto attack? |
| 23:19.53 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.02 | Thunder_Child | ty kd3 |
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| 23:41.34 | airtonix | where do i find makriks wife? |
| 23:41.38 | airtonix | mankrik* |
| 23:41.51 | airtonix | ... |
| 23:42.32 | Dagmar | http://www.google.com/search?q=mankirk's+wife |
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| 23:45.52 | Lunessa | I finded her, but had to kill her. |
| 23:46.50 | ScytheBlade1 | !g mankirk's wife |
| 23:46.51 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: Initial D World - Discussion Board / Forums -> World of Warcraft <http://idforums.net/index.php?showtopic=22322&st=25> |
| 23:46.55 | ScytheBlade1 | huh |
| 23:47.44 | ScytheBlade1 | you know, thought just occured to me because of that thread |
| 23:48.01 | ScytheBlade1 | If there was ever a WoW movie, as long as there was some poor Orc walking around asking for his wife |
| 23:48.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd probably watch it for that alone |
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