| 00:00.21 | Thunder_Child | if i wanted to macro to change between 2 tracking options anyone know how i would go about it? |
| 00:00.31 | Thunder_Child | s/to/a/ |
| 00:00.47 | Thunder_Child | on a keypress* |
| 00:00.53 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.26 | Cairenn | what ARE you guys talking about? |
| 00:01.33 | Thunder_Child | mikma, ty |
| 00:01.34 | Cairenn | re p3lim |
| 00:02.12 | Thunder_Child | 15:59.33 p3lim: im listening to my guildmates on ventrilo |
| 00:02.12 | Thunder_Child | 15:59.42 p3lim: while a random dude hacks my account |
| 00:02.12 | Thunder_Child | 15:59.58 Jamash: have you contacted blizzard yet? |
| 00:02.12 | Thunder_Child | 16:00.00 p3lim: hes running back and forth to the bank and mail |
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| 00:05.13 | Cairenn | oookay |
| 00:09.11 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn: so, about that cloak... ;) |
| 00:09.17 | Cairenn | Gnarfoz: right, sorry |
| 00:09.32 | Cairenn | what do you want? it MUST start @WoWUIDev/ |
| 00:09.37 | mikma | oh i like that baby, i put on my robe and wizardhat |
| 00:09.38 | Cairenn | you can put whatever after the / |
| 00:09.46 | Thunder_Child | not quite |
| 00:09.49 | Gnarfoz | nothing to be sorry about, I get sidetracked a lot and I guess I have less on my mind than you probably do ;) |
| 00:09.54 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn alread vetoed some of my ideas |
| 00:09.57 | Thunder_Child | after the / |
| 00:10.07 | Thunder_Child | already* |
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| 00:11.16 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn: WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Gnarfoz, I guess =) |
| 00:11.21 | Cairenn | k |
| 00:11.35 | Kraps | is there a way in prat to make the chat window smaller? |
| 00:11.46 | Gnarfoz | yes, the normal blizzard way |
| 00:11.52 | Gnarfoz | unlock it, drag the borders/corner |
| 00:12.01 | sylvanaar | ^^ |
| 00:12.20 | Gnarfoz | AND it has a module to change the pre-set minimum/maximum sizes |
| 00:12.24 | Gnarfoz | if that's what you wanted |
| 00:12.25 | sylvanaar | if it doesnt go small enough - then you can use the frames module to set the minimums |
| 00:12.34 | Gnarfoz | ta-dah |
| 00:12.35 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 00:12.51 | Kraps | I AM SUCH A NOOB but you already knew that |
| 00:13.10 | Kraps | wth is wrong with me? |
| 00:13.18 | Thunder_Child | can you believe that Cairenn deep sixed @WoWUIDev/CairennFanClub/ |
| 00:13.32 | mikma | kraps: p3lim installed the trojan to you |
| 00:13.34 | Thunder_Child | shamefull |
| 00:13.50 | Thunder_Child | s/l// |
| 00:14.03 | ckknight | please enter http://www.wowace.com/contests/1-test-contest/ |
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| 00:14.56 | mikma | make it go awayyyyy! horrible! |
| 00:15.42 | ZorbaTHut | i entered teh contest |
| 00:15.46 | Kraps | dominoes has no reset button |
| 00:15.52 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: did I do it right? |
| 00:15.58 | Kraps | which makes me sad |
| 00:17.12 | ckknight | yes you did |
| 00:18.17 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.53 | Zyndrome | I did it wrong! |
| 00:20.16 | End | my entry is pessimistic |
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| 00:20.46 | ZorbaTHut | ckknight, pick me as the winner, mine is perfect, it doesn't even crash |
| 00:21.15 | Thunder_Child | lies ZorbaTHut, lies |
| 00:21.27 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:21.36 | ckknight | zorba's entry |
| 00:21.37 | ckknight | print("Hello, world! of some sort") |
| 00:21.37 | ckknight | crash_horribly() |
| 00:21.45 | End | lol |
| 00:22.01 | Gnarfoz | classic |
| 00:22.07 | ZorbaTHut | I didn't test it but I'm pretty sure it works |
| 00:22.44 | NeoTron | wonders what all these @WowUIDev/Stuff is. |
| 00:22.55 | ckknight | NeoTron: ask Cairenn, she's got the hookup |
| 00:23.08 | Cairenn | host cloaks |
| 00:23.25 | Cairenn | do a /who on ckknight, Kaelten, tekkub, etc |
| 00:23.57 | NeoTron | ah |
| 00:25.34 | NeoTron | doesn't care too much. |
| 00:26.38 | mikma | you shouldn't. its just e-peen++ |
| 00:28.02 | Funkeh` | mikma, mins bigger than yours |
| 00:28.11 | Kraps | laterz |
| 00:28.30 | mikma | funkeh`: and it brings all the boys in the yard |
| 00:28.37 | Funkeh` | LOL |
| 00:28.49 | Thunder_Child | s/in/to/ |
| 00:28.59 | mikma | in to |
| 00:29.07 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
| 00:29.36 | Funkeh` | and I thought that's what all the "chicks" digged |
| 00:30.15 | mikma | chicks dicked you? |
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| 00:31.00 | Wobin | man Funkeh`, you need to check for the adam's apple =\ |
| 00:31.13 | Funkeh` | le sigh |
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| 00:31.46 | Wobin | speaking of deliberate miscommunication... http://www.brokenpicturetelephone.com/ |
| 00:32.59 | Jamash | I am encountering a bizarre behavior on the part of the wow api, it appears that at login it returns companion info in the order they were learned, but afterwards returns them in alphabetical order |
| 00:33.26 | Jamash | it's causing me to doubt my sanity |
| 00:34.10 | Aezay | Cairenn, could you move http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12970-LuaBrowser.html into Developer Utilities? |
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| 00:34.38 | Shadowed | ISn't there a function that gets all of the events a frame registered for |
| 00:34.43 | Shadowed | I swear to god there is but I can't find it |
| 00:34.51 | Cairenn | Aezay: moved |
| 00:34.59 | Aezay | thanks |
| 00:35.05 | Cairenn | you're welcome |
| 00:38.25 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, that is much win |
| 00:38.42 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: there are some absolute brilliant ones in there =) |
| 00:38.43 | airtonix | ~api GetFramesRegisteredForEvent |
| 00:38.44 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetFramesRegisteredForEvent |
| 00:38.59 | Wobin | airtonix: isn't that the other way around? |
| 00:39.10 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 00:39.13 | Wobin | or maybe that's what Shadowed is recalling |
| 00:39.16 | airtonix | yeah ithinks its the only one of its kind though |
| 00:39.27 | Shadowed | no you're right the first time Wobin |
| 00:40.15 | airtonix | Shadowed, you sure you've used a function return a list of events by passing the frame name or frame object? |
| 00:40.33 | Shadowed | I never said I did |
| 00:40.41 | kmcguire | ... http://www.brokenpicturetelephone.com/view?id=37535 |
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| 00:41.15 | airtonix | Frame:IsEventRegistered("event") |
| 00:42.04 | kmcguire | It looks pretty funny, but people keep ruining it, lol. |
| 00:42.06 | kmcguire | http://www.brokenpicturetelephone.com/view?id=37534 |
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| 00:46.37 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, kmcguire, make sure to hit the boss alert button top left...and read it |
| 00:46.41 | Thunder_Child | it's amusing |
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| 00:47.20 | Wobin | hehe "An Important Looking Graph" |
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| 00:48.38 | kmcguire | lol |
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| 00:49.49 | Wobin | they need a voting system |
| 00:50.49 | Wobin | oh, I see, I think they rate it by the users |
| 00:50.58 | Wobin | and the users have the scores |
| 00:51.13 | Wobin | so if many high scored users play, it rates the game higher |
| 00:51.47 | Thunder_Child | shall we set up a private game to test it out? |
| 00:53.00 | Kirov | Shadowed - I don't beleive that ever existed outside of Ace. |
| 00:53.05 | Shadowed | sad |
| 00:53.43 | Wobin | Kirov: I'd guess only because there's no way of knowing what events are registered with a frame unless you specifically were part of that registering |
| 00:53.54 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: ugh, site is very slow =\ |
| 00:54.23 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, huh, wasnt 5min ago |
| 00:54.30 | NeoTron | :se noai |
| 00:54.30 | NeoTron | a:se ai |
| 00:54.40 | Wobin | trying to register |
| 00:54.57 | Thunder_Child | did already |
| 00:55.02 | Thunder_Child | FAIL Wobin |
| 00:55.16 | Jamash | ok I've figured it out, on login, at SPELLS_CHANGED, pet info is in learned order, but at COMPANION_UPDATE it changes to alphabetical order |
| 00:58.06 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: Ok, I need usernames |
| 00:58.15 | Wobin | Or you can start one, mine is 'Wobin' |
| 00:58.22 | Thunder_Child | i is Thunder_Child |
| 00:58.27 | ckknight | do me |
| 00:58.32 | Wobin | ckknight? |
| 00:58.38 | ckknight | o hai thar |
| 00:58.38 | Thunder_Child | eh? |
| 00:58.41 | Wobin | kmcguire? |
| 00:59.13 | ckknight | enter the contest, fabulous prizes await you, Wobin: http://www.wowace.com/contests/1-test-contest/ |
| 00:59.22 | ckknight | just wants a large dataset |
| 00:59.39 | End | whurrs my prize |
| 01:00.00 | ckknight | prizes are awarded once the contest closes and winners are chosen |
| 01:00.54 | Wobin | anyone else for a rousing game of BrokenPictureTelephone? |
| 01:01.06 | ckknight | sure? |
| 01:01.27 | Wobin | ckknight: sign up at www.brokenpicturetelephone.com |
| 01:02.37 | mikma | ring ring ring ring ring bananaphone |
| 01:03.30 | ckknight | Wobin: signed up |
| 01:03.46 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn: whee thanks |
| 01:03.50 | ckknight | Wobin: what now? |
| 01:03.57 | Cairenn | Gnarfoz: applied, is it? |
| 01:03.59 | Wobin | what's your username? |
| 01:04.04 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn: indeed |
| 01:04.15 | Cairenn | good :) you're welcome :) |
| 01:04.23 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn: oh wait, let me do that again. *emulates Christopher Judge* "Innndeeeeeed." |
| 01:04.28 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:05.02 | Wobin | Cairenn: join our game! |
| 01:05.07 | Wobin | I have to set it up, but I need usernames |
| 01:05.42 | haste | Wobin: wth is it? |
| 01:05.56 | Thunder_Child | haste, www.brokenpicturetelephone.com |
| 01:06.05 | ckknight | Wobin: ckknight |
| 01:06.44 | End | it looks like it's like the telephone game where you whisper in someone's ear, and the message ends up all fucked up in the end....except in this case, you're drawing a picture instead of whispering |
| 01:06.54 | End | like in a chain |
| 01:07.09 | Kirov | woot, I'm entry #13 |
| 01:07.23 | haste | *reads the how to play* |
| 01:07.32 | Thunder_Child | End, both, wiriting and drawing |
| 01:07.51 | End | that too |
| 01:07.57 | ckknight | Kirov: if so, you have a syntax error |
| 01:08.21 | haste | man, this so requires ventrilo on the side too! :p |
| 01:08.32 | haste | so what game do I join? |
| 01:08.47 | haste | username is haste, actually already had an account there from earlier :p |
| 01:09.38 | Kirov | ckknight - really? |
| 01:09.45 | ckknight | use parentheses. |
| 01:09.46 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 01:10.07 | Gnarfoz | USians call "silent post" (literally translated) "broken telephone"? :O |
| 01:10.15 | Gnarfoz | hello 21st century, I guess |
| 01:10.19 | Wobin | I'll add you to our game |
| 01:10.23 | Wobin | anyone else? |
| 01:10.31 | ckknight | Wobin: when do I start and how do I know? |
| 01:10.40 | Wobin | You'll get an email, I think |
| 01:10.47 | ckknight | k |
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| 01:10.54 | ckknight | gonna go home, then |
| 01:10.55 | ckknight | bbiab |
| 01:11.01 | Wobin | kirov, you "kirov"? =) |
| 01:11.17 | Wobin | oh, different contest =P |
| 01:11.24 | Wobin | meh, I'll start it now |
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| 01:12.37 | Wobin | lets see how that goes |
| 01:12.53 | mikma | game lame fame |
| 01:12.57 | mikma | waddup? |
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| 01:23.39 | ckknight | and back |
| 01:24.54 | Thunder_Child | wow, it is seriously hard to draw myself |
| 01:25.16 | mikma | just draw a stickman |
| 01:25.21 | Thunder_Child | meh |
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| 02:32.54 | dardack | it's too quiet |
| 02:33.10 | mikma | yeah |
| 02:33.18 | mikma | damn you all, i'm going to bed. |
| 02:33.23 | TC-Away | ~shutup |
| 02:33.24 | purl | yes master, I'll STFU |
| 02:36.22 | Kraps | our mrs reynolds is friggen hilarious |
| 02:37.51 | Torhal | Who here uses git with Linux? |
| 02:40.30 | Wobin | ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldWxKdzMecA |
| 02:42.07 | mikma | 9 |
| 02:42.37 | Wobin | I thought it was just a really cool animated short |
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| 02:42.44 | Wobin | but they've parlayed it out to a full movie =) |
| 02:43.03 | mikma | go tim burton |
| 02:47.46 | kmcguire | Almost got the efficent routing done. Well, looking for bugs. Then will try putting in inventory checks so the traveling salesman can be out of his job again. |
| 02:48.00 | kmcguire | Takes more cpu time. |
| 02:49.29 | mikma | fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it! |
| 02:51.03 | TC-Away | Wobin, L2PateLinks |
| 02:51.07 | TC-Away | Paste* |
| 02:51.19 | Wobin | lrn2spell |
| 02:51.29 | Thunder_Child | thats a losing battle |
| 02:51.58 | mikma | l2sharesekrets |
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| 02:53.15 | Thunder_Child | Wobin...so animated terminator.....got it |
| 02:53.34 | Wobin | at least you spelled 'losing' correctly =) |
| 02:53.43 | Thunder_Child | yes, i learned that from here |
| 02:53.45 | Thunder_Child | ~loose |
| 02:53.45 | purl | methinks loose is the most annoying spelling error. It's LOSE you moron. Unless of course you're using loose in a Madonna sorta way. |
| 02:53.53 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: It was originally just a really cool animated short |
| 02:54.19 | mikma | wobin: link meeeeeeeee or i kill you |
| 02:54.27 | Thunder_Child | he already did |
| 02:54.34 | Thunder_Child | "19:40.32 Wobin: ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldWxKdzMecA" |
| 02:55.06 | mikma | can i still kill him? |
| 02:55.09 | kmcguire | Here is the code so far. After removing all the routing[_*].lua files from QH, and putting this one in the toc. It has to be ran with /run ttt() to update path. http://www.pastey.net/114577-7daj |
| 02:55.29 | Thunder_Child | yes mikma, yes you can |
| 02:55.57 | mikma | woohoo! |
| 02:56.29 | kmcguire | Oh, flight path data missing. Will add in later. |
| 02:56.46 | kmcguire | All static zone, boat I think, ect paths. |
| 02:59.32 | Wobin | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1jl41_9-nine-shane-acker-short-animation_creation |
| 02:59.38 | Wobin | that's the original short |
| 03:04.35 | mikma | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9353&highlight=openttd <- that's absolutely hilarious |
| 03:04.47 | mikma | i can't understand anything he has typed |
| 03:06.09 | mikma | "1 - Version OS - Palm OS 5.0 also is more senior" |
| 03:06.22 | mikma | "2 - the Minimum size of accessible memory (Dynamic Heap Size) not less 8 Mb !!!" |
| 03:06.23 | Wobin | No works on a photo to installation and imposing of pictures were made!!! |
| 03:06.42 | mikma | "5 - to Start file PalmTTD and to take pleasure in result..." |
| 03:07.04 | Wobin | oh man I can play TTD on my palm? |
| 03:07.07 | Wobin | crazy =P |
| 03:07.23 | mikma | seems like it |
| 03:07.24 | Bruners | mikma: im guessing he has used a translation service |
| 03:07.31 | mikma | "Yes - quite right - unfortunately is so!" |
| 03:07.39 | mikma | bruners: that might explain, alot. |
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| 03:07.46 | mikma | russian to english |
| 03:07.46 | Wobin | a terrible terrible translation service =) |
| 03:08.18 | Bruners | kinda hard to translate some stuff |
| 03:08.25 | mikma | I wish to congratulate you on success! |
| 03:08.26 | mikma | At you the most beautiful drawing at this forum! |
| 03:08.59 | mikma | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=75995&postcount=12 |
| 03:10.16 | mikma | "Check up the version - which use?" |
| 03:10.30 | Bruners | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBPG_OBgTWg&feature=PlayList&p=EE76ADA884AD6D75&index=7&playnext=2&playnext_from=PL |
| 03:13.42 | mikma | hehe |
| 03:15.33 | Kyahx | bah, why do verticle status bars shift the texture downward :( |
| 03:15.45 | Kyahx | should anchor at the bottom! |
| 03:16.40 | mikma | bruners: i can see your playlist! |
| 03:17.01 | Wobin | "Haha, Bruners, yer playlist is showing!" ? |
| 03:17.24 | Bruners | i did a derren brown search and clicked play all :P |
| 03:19.14 | mikma | good thing there ain't any donkeyporn in the list |
| 03:19.58 | Wobin | "Will this porn star notice if we exchange her partner with a donkey?!" |
| 03:21.06 | mikma | wobin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wtZX1i6OYc |
| 03:21.20 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, no |
| 03:21.32 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, well yes, they get treated nicer |
| 03:21.44 | mikma | thunder_child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wtZX1i6OYc |
| 03:22.12 | Thunder_Child | if it's not donkey porn i dont want to watch |
| 03:22.24 | mikma | it's donkey porn |
| 03:25.30 | Thunder_Child | go math http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1397#comic |
| 03:26.04 | Thunder_Child | actually it's inductive resoning but /we |
| 03:28.57 | mikma | math rules. |
| 03:29.01 | Wobin | wouldn't induction require positing the veracity of the statement for -all- cases? |
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| 03:29.42 | Iriel | There's certainly a step missing for induction, IMHO |
| 03:29.46 | TC-Away | it would be so nice to have an OS that did not fuck up |
| 03:31.24 | mikma | thunder_child: wait until phoenix releases their os |
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| 03:31.59 | Thunder_Child | mikma, i dont think it possible to have an OS that doesnt fuck up as long as it interacts with people |
| 03:33.19 | mikma | thunder_child: that tells me you are the one failing actually |
| 03:33.33 | End | Thunder_Child fails without saying |
| 03:34.19 | NightHawkTheSane | "people" fail. |
| 03:34.23 | NightHawkTheSane | it's a given. |
| 03:34.27 | Bruners | my vista is working as intended |
| 03:35.09 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn via RDP |
| 03:35.16 | End | my blizzard is working as intended |
| 03:35.18 | Cairenn | hugs Sargeras |
| 03:35.29 | End | frowns at his realm. |
| 03:35.33 | End | stupid lag |
| 03:36.31 | End | we were trying to do ignis, and apparently if it lags enough, it creates a gap between when his flame jet interrupt occurs, and when he actually throws you in the air |
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| 03:43.40 | tekkub | so who's made an automatic equipment set dual spec switcher? |
| 03:43.52 | End | you? |
| 03:43.59 | tekkub | I don't wanna |
| 03:44.03 | End | but you could |
| 03:44.13 | tekkub | I asked who HAS |
| 03:44.52 | End | well, someone has to do it |
| 03:44.56 | Bruners | how hard could that be? |
| 03:45.05 | tekkub | not hard, I just don't wanna |
| 03:45.16 | dardack | end ya lag on ignis killed us twice before we got lucky with a no lag attempt |
| 03:45.58 | dardack | i'm the dk tank on the adds to pull em into the water, the lag was terrible first two attempts, i'm casting chains and the button highlights but nothing happens, kinda sucked |
| 03:46.00 | Bruners | tekkub: outfitter, itemrack, closet gnome with a plugin, wardrobeal |
| 03:46.21 | Bruners | http://www.wowinsider.com/2009/04/19/gear-changers-for-dual-spec/ |
| 03:46.26 | Kemayo | The real question is "who hasn't?" |
| 03:46.31 | End | I think tekkub wanted to do it with the builtin crap |
| 03:47.08 | tekkub | Bruners: fail |
| 03:47.16 | tekkub | End: yes |
| 03:47.27 | Bruners | there is builtin crap? |
| 03:47.31 | End | yup |
| 03:47.38 | Jamash | it's called /equipset X /usetalents Y |
| 03:48.12 | Thunder_Child | Bruners, this patch |
| 03:48.47 | tekkub | Bruners double fail |
| 03:49.05 | Bruners | tekkub: lies! |
| 03:49.08 | tekkub | Jamash: I'm not wasting macros for something an addon could do wonderfully |
| 03:49.33 | Jamash | tekkub: I'm not wasting an addon for something macros could do wonderfully |
| 03:49.54 | tekkub | macros should only be used for that which addons can't do all that well (casting logics) |
| 03:50.39 | Jamash | anyone know of a talent templating addon that handles pet talents and isn't HUEG LIKE XBOX? |
| 03:51.27 | tekkub | if it's not huge, how will you know it's in you |
| 03:51.33 | tekkub | I mean, loaded |
| 03:53.24 | Thunder_Child | yes, thoes are often confused with each other.... |
| 03:54.59 | AnduinLothar | RAWR 41% Armor Pen |
| 03:55.22 | Jamash | I found one addon that's teensy weensy but doesn't handle pet talents, and Talented, which is overkill |
| 03:58.52 | tekkub | see, AnduinLothar likes penetration too |
| 03:59.44 | AnduinLothar | i figured i might as well stack it since ulduar has a ton and this way i'm not fighting hunters and rogues for loot |
| 04:00.23 | tekkub | does that mean they fixed penetration |
| 04:00.31 | tekkub | or that you just like it |
| 04:00.35 | Wobin | only if you're a prot warrior |
| 04:00.39 | AnduinLothar | the BiS items aren't all arp, but we dont have access to most of them anyway cause they're late boss hard mode |
| 04:00.41 | Wobin | or specced prot =) |
| 04:00.50 | Wobin | cause if it's not on, it's not on |
| 04:01.35 | AnduinLothar | with grim toll and raid buffs tho i'm nearing 100% arp |
| 04:02.04 | Kyahx | has anyone done anything to mod the default quest frame to have it grow upwards instead of down? |
| 04:02.18 | Kyahx | the quest watch frame* |
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| 04:03.55 | tekkub | that sounds... not fun to do Kyahx |
| 04:04.03 | Kyahx | I know :( |
| 04:04.14 | tekkub | the way stuff anchors it'd be a lot of trouble to do |
| 04:04.25 | Kyahx | all I want to do is put my minimap in the lower right and have to log grow upwards, why so hard! :( |
| 04:04.31 | tekkub | just learn to like it as is |
| 04:09.07 | AnduinLothar | well was doing 5.3k dps on Decon without a flask |
| 04:09.37 | AnduinLothar | other 2 pallies aren't as geared but both are flasked putting 6k dps |
| 04:10.01 | Kemayo | Kyahx: Or use some quest-frame replacement. |
| 04:10.41 | Kemayo | Which I know isn't what you want. But... |
| 04:11.07 | Kyahx | yea |
| 04:11.22 | Kyahx | all the replacments I've seen dont handle achivements and timers well |
| 04:11.48 | Gnarfoz | bashes head against desk |
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| 04:12.52 | Gnarfoz | how come Adobe Premiere is like... unable to export "uncompressed video" that ANYTHING can play back afterwards? why does it only support Video for Windows codecs? etc |
| 04:12.55 | Kemayo | That reminds me that I need to add timers into BetterQuest. |
| 04:13.11 | Kemayo | Step 1: go find a timed quest... |
| 04:13.17 | Gnarfoz | it's like it's fucking impossible to NOT get a mangled result when using Premiere |
| 04:13.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: because adobe sucks donkey balls |
| 04:14.08 | Gnarfoz | I can subscribe to that |
| 04:14.11 | Gnarfoz | :[ |
| 04:14.46 | Gnarfoz | if this weird Adobe Media Encoder thingy didn't totally suck I wouldn't have to try and bypass it |
| 04:14.49 | Gnarfoz | but... |
| 04:14.56 | Gnarfoz | meh! |
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| 04:25.20 | Thunder_Child | i blame the earthquake |
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| 04:33.05 | tekkub | http://www.gfilter.net/junk/humancasualties.png |
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| 04:36.21 | kd3 | lol |
| 04:36.32 | ccox | nice |
| 04:36.56 | ccox | could be worse, could be double: "human casualties 0.00000001" |
| 04:37.36 | ccox | "oh, sorry, guess you were just a LSB error" |
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| 04:40.37 | porkbun | hello |
| 04:41.10 | Jamash | sup |
| 04:41.13 | ccox | eh? speak up, we can't hear your question through these long inter-tubes. |
| 04:41.30 | porkbun | okay, what's the syntax for onevent in an xml file? |
| 04:42.15 | porkbun | cause it's driving me nuts that it won't work |
| 04:42.46 | Iriel | <Scripts><OnEvent> stuff </OnEvent></Scripts> |
| 04:42.49 | Iriel | Inside your Frame |
| 04:42.55 | Iriel | Dont forget to register the event |
| 04:42.56 | ccox | have you compared yours to other, working XML files? |
| 04:43.43 | porkbun | yes. i've got: <Scripts><OnEvent> namespace.myfunction </OnEvent></Scripts> |
| 04:43.51 | porkbun | and in my onload function i'm registering an event |
| 04:44.00 | porkbun | and the handler is never getting called |
| 04:44.07 | ccox | namespace.myfunction(event,...); |
| 04:44.23 | porkbun | oh i need the args listed? |
| 04:44.26 | porkbun | dur |
| 04:44.35 | ccox | that would help to call the function... |
| 04:44.45 | ccox | otherwise you just put a function object on the stack and never called it |
| 04:45.55 | porkbun | okay, say my onload element uses a function that has no parameters |
| 04:46.06 | porkbun | but i assume onload has no params, cause THAT one works without spcifying a param list in the xml |
| 04:46.11 | ccox | you still need () on the end to complete the function call |
| 04:46.17 | porkbun | and that would be the source of my confusion then |
| 04:46.20 | porkbun | thanks :D |
| 04:46.50 | ccox | (how can such a small patch take so @#$%@#$% long to apply?) |
| 04:47.12 | porkbun | that's what i wanted to know |
| 04:47.30 | ccox | Could be worse, could be the Acrobat updater (shivver) |
| 04:47.45 | porkbun | does the onevent functoin require self, event, ... or just event, ... |
| 04:47.47 | durcyn | because it's running a checksum on the entire patch.mpq before applying the diff |
| 04:47.58 | Iriel | porkbun: that depends on whether you need self |
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| 04:48.25 | ccox | durcyn - then it needs faster checksum code (or are they really dumb and decompressing to checksum it?) |
| 04:48.31 | Wobin | oh man |
| 04:48.34 | Wobin | porkbun |
| 04:48.39 | Wobin | now I'm hungry |
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| 04:48.44 | porkbun | hee |
| 04:48.58 | porkbun | iriel: so in lua i have: myhandler(self, event, ...) |
| 04:49.00 | Wobin | char shao bao =( |
| 04:49.00 | durcyn | ccox: looks like contents as well, i didn't bother to trace it though |
| 04:49.17 | porkbun | in my xml i use OnEvent> myhandler(self, event,...) </onEvent> |
| 04:49.28 | ccox | durcyn - looks like someone on the patcher team needs a few swings from the clue-bat |
| 04:49.51 | Iriel | then you should pass self in your XML, yes |
| 04:50.23 | porkbun | baw i need a way to debug this because it's still not working :( |
| 04:50.43 | ccox | pork - probalby easiest if you pastey the whole file or section so we can look at it |
| 04:50.45 | Iriel | try |
| 04:50.49 | Iriel | print("Got event", event) |
| 04:50.51 | Iriel | in your XML |
| 04:50.54 | Iriel | before you call your handler |
| 04:51.05 | Iriel | And make sure it's </OnEvent> not </onEvent> |
| 04:51.08 | porkbun | okay will try what iriel suggested first. |
| 04:51.39 | porkbun | oh, if i use Frame name="blahblah", i use blahblah:RegisterEvent("event name") in my lua onload handler, right? |
| 04:51.52 | ScytheBlade1 | use self:RegisterEvent() |
| 04:52.17 | porkbun | oh hmm. well the print is not showing me anything |
| 04:53.49 | kd3 | yay, kologarn's bugged |
| 04:54.11 | durcyn | howso? |
| 04:54.28 | kd3 | our tank got 4 stacks of the armor debuff in like 10 seconds |
| 04:54.50 | kd3 | compared to 1 every 25 like it's supposed to be |
| 04:57.08 | porkbun | ccox: http://www.pastey.net/114581 |
| 04:57.13 | porkbun | i threw the xml in at the top of the file |
| 04:57.33 | porkbun | basically i'm just never seeing my handler function called |
| 04:58.45 | ccox | but your OnLoadHandler is being called? |
| 04:58.56 | porkbun | yes, i have it throw up a message box, and i do see that box |
| 05:01.35 | ccox | hmm, I must be overlooking something... |
| 05:02.43 | porkbun | my kingdom for a line by line debugger |
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| 05:03.22 | ccox | it's XML - there is nothing to debug |
| 05:03.40 | Shirik | rawr |
| 05:03.45 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
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| 05:03.56 | Shirik | huggles Gryphen |
| 05:04.00 | Gryphen | huggles Shirik |
| 05:04.25 | ReAn | so |
| 05:04.30 | porkbun | hmm :( |
| 05:04.33 | ReAn | was there any massive changes in 3.1.2 ? |
| 05:04.36 | ReAn | ui-wise |
| 05:04.39 | NightHawkTheSane | a needle pulling thread? |
| 05:04.39 | Iriel | YOu dont pass self into PorkBun.OnLoadHandler |
| 05:05.01 | Iriel | you've also given it useless event and ... args |
| 05:05.03 | porkbun | iriel: but i still saw the message string in that onloadhandler? |
| 05:05.32 | Iriel | Sure, you're CALLING the function, but it can't do anything useful |
| 05:05.36 | Iriel | the self:RegisterEvent is failing |
| 05:05.42 | Iriel | you'd see that if you had lua errors turned on |
| 05:06.11 | Iriel | unless your message is blocking it |
| 05:06.11 | porkbun | i did o_O |
| 05:06.17 | porkbun | er did have it on imean |
| 05:06.17 | Iriel | message is a lousy way to debug, print is nicer |
| 05:06.34 | Wobin | Iriel: Stop using tasty foodstuffs in coding examples =( |
| 05:07.11 | NightHawkTheSane | .. pork buns sound good |
| 05:07.13 | porkbun | :D |
| 05:07.37 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd totally give someone a paper cut for a pork bun. |
| 05:07.37 | porkbun-WOBINNOE | aww i tried to make it say wobin no eating |
| 05:07.39 | porkbun-WOBINNOE | =P |
| 05:07.56 | Shirik | So |
| 05:07.58 | porkbun | every time i go to use print in lua, i write printf |
| 05:08.01 | Shirik | I got to do my first code checkin today! |
| 05:08.03 | Shirik | yay |
| 05:08.03 | Wobin | munches on porkbun |
| 05:08.18 | Shirik | It only took about an hour to get all the documents in order >.> |
| 05:08.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: this is where you say you broke the build? :P |
| 05:08.31 | Shirik | no actually! |
| 05:08.37 | porkbun | whee, that's awesome shirik |
| 05:08.38 | porkbun | wait |
| 05:08.41 | Shirik | server reported success |
| 05:08.46 | Shirik | but |
| 05:08.50 | porkbun | no that's scary....you mean you did the whole minion development outside of sc? |
| 05:08.52 | Shirik | we only do clean rebuilds nightly |
| 05:08.54 | porkbun | and you only checked in the final? |
| 05:09.01 | Shirik | no porkbun, this is for where I work |
| 05:09.04 | porkbun | cause that's kinda horrifying ;) |
| 05:09.07 | porkbun | oh :) |
| 05:09.13 | porkbun | hehe yeah, autobuilds are awesome |
| 05:09.27 | Shirik | But yeah, an hour for all the review, documentation, traceability stuff |
| 05:09.32 | Shirik | that's needed for any checkin >.> |
| 05:09.42 | porkbun | code reviews are mandatory for big changes :) |
| 05:09.45 | Shirik | of course, it would be faster if I knew the tools I was working with |
| 05:09.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: where do you work? |
| 05:09.59 | Shirik | Insitu |
| 05:10.07 | Shirik | UAV manufacturer owned by Boeing |
| 05:10.16 | Shirik | manufacturer is a bad word |
| 05:10.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ah |
| 05:10.21 | Shirik | UAV developer |
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| 05:10.30 | Shirik | I'm on the Software Engineering - Flight Controls team |
| 05:10.43 | NightHawkTheSane | i guess the rigorous process is probably necessary then :) |
| 05:10.44 | Codayus_ | Ooh, fun |
| 05:11.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Suddenly your lack of internet makes sense |
| 05:11.01 | Shirik | funny thing is what I checked in was technically marked as a non-code checkin |
| 05:11.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't have company secrets being leaked! |
| 05:11.13 | Shirik | What I changed was one of our code generators |
| 05:11.21 | Shirik | since we do a lot of automatic code generation |
| 05:11.23 | porkbun | iriel: i have display lua errors checked; i see the print message in my onload, but no error for the register event |
| 05:11.33 | Shirik | However, changing that has a significant impact on everything else, naturally :) |
| 05:13.14 | porkbun | what lang do they use there, shirik? :) |
| 05:13.28 | Shirik | a lot |
| 05:13.38 | Shirik | the UAV itself runs mostly on C++ |
| 05:13.58 | Shirik | However most of that C++ is not written by a human |
| 05:14.00 | porkbun | coolness :) |
| 05:14.04 | porkbun | awwww :P |
| 05:14.12 | Shirik | there is a lot of automatic code generation |
| 05:14.12 | porkbun | c++ is so awesome when yous crew yourself |
| 05:14.36 | porkbun | okay i have an addon question. i can only have one event handler per frame |
| 05:14.51 | porkbun | and so if i want multiple events i have to switch on the event to do the right actions |
| 05:14.55 | kd3 | "In C it's pretty easy to shoot your foot. In C++ it's a little harder, but when you do, you blow off your whole leg." |
| 05:15.02 | porkbun | a stroustrup, right? |
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| 05:15.17 | porkbun | a stroustrup quote i mean. however you spell his name |
| 05:15.22 | kd3 | ya |
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| 05:19.22 | Shirik|Ecole | stabs his connection |
| 05:19.24 | Shirik|Ecole | ns ghost Shirik |
| 05:19.32 | Zootfizzle | Meany! |
| 05:19.36 | Zootfizzle | What'd he ever do to you? |
| 05:19.38 | Shirik | anyway, ScytheBlade1, while I could theoretically log in from work, it wouldn't really do much as I'm a bit busy during the day |
| 05:19.43 | Shirik | pokes Zot |
| 05:19.44 | Shirik | Zootfizzle |
| 05:19.48 | Shirik | sighs |
| 05:21.45 | TC-Away | we could make fun of you Shirik, it's eaiser with tab complete |
| 05:21.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: sounds like you win nights and weekends working on Minion! |
| 05:22.18 | porkbun | yeah shirik messes up, something might fly into a cliff or a mountaintop and that would be bad, right? |
| 05:22.20 | porkbun | ;) |
| 05:22.46 | NightHawkTheSane | thankfully, he works on unmanned stuff? |
| 05:23.19 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 05:23.40 | porkbun | well that's still an expensive piece of junk ;) |
| 05:23.55 | NightHawkTheSane | true, but i won't be riding in it, so thats okay :) |
| 05:24.08 | Thunder_Child | yet |
| 05:24.11 | Shirik | Actually they're relatively cheap |
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| 05:24.17 | Shirik | a scaneagle costs I think about $125k |
| 05:24.20 | NightHawkTheSane | im going to bet i'll never be riding in a UAV |
| 05:24.33 | porkbun | well that'd kind of defeat the point ;) |
| 05:24.33 | Thunder_Child | that is correct |
| 05:24.57 | porkbun | ooh ooh ooh lua question: do i care about threading? |
| 05:25.05 | Shirik | no |
| 05:25.06 | Zootfizzle | Doubtful. |
| 05:25.06 | Thunder_Child | though i would love to fly a UCAV |
| 05:25.16 | porkbun | okay good :) |
| 05:25.19 | porkbun | threading gives me a headache |
| 05:25.45 | porkbun | especially when someone takes your "i never claimed it was threadsafe" library, runs it on two threads, and then emails you asking about weird asserts. |
| 05:25.58 | Zootfizzle | Yes, we will have none of that. |
| 05:26.18 | Zootfizzle | Weird asserts, anyway |
| 05:26.25 | End | *cough* |
| 05:26.27 | porkbun | :D |
| 05:26.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 05:26.34 | Zootfizzle | <_< |
| 05:26.41 | NightHawkTheSane | makes a point to put weird asserts in his addons |
| 05:26.53 | Zootfizzle | That could be a contest for BlizzCon |
| 05:27.05 | Shirik | Pop quiz for regex people |
| 05:27.09 | Thunder_Child | it requires more effort than the wowi one |
| 05:27.12 | Shirik | I need a regular expression to match 3 or more of something |
| 05:27.16 | Shirik | [a-z]{3,} |
| 05:27.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ... you need to have a UI panel competition of sorts at Blizzcon now |
| 05:27.18 | Shirik | is that right? |
| 05:27.23 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 05:27.27 | porkbun | eeew regexs |
| 05:28.19 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, no |
| 05:28.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: yes |
| 05:28.38 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, no |
| 05:28.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: yes |
| 05:28.49 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, no |
| 05:28.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: yes |
| 05:29.02 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, no |
| 05:29.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: yes |
| 05:29.05 | porkbun | boy this is quotedb material right here! |
| 05:29.07 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, no |
| 05:29.10 | Zootfizzle | Why have one there when this competition is so riveting? |
| 05:29.12 | tekkub | Thunder_Child: yes yes YES OH YES |
| 05:29.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: yes |
| 05:29.14 | ScytheBlade1 | And why not? |
| 05:29.24 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, no. and tekkub...gtfo |
| 05:29.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Why not?! |
| 05:29.34 | tekkub | Thunder_Child: no |
| 05:29.39 | porkbun | no means no |
| 05:29.44 | porkbun | BAD TOUCH BAD TOUCH |
| 05:29.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Zootfizzle: we exist to entertain |
| 05:29.55 | Zootfizzle | xD |
| 05:30.02 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, because any compitition with the UI pannel would involve tanks of water with sharks and a baseball |
| 05:30.11 | Zootfizzle | What?! |
| 05:30.17 | Zootfizzle | Thunder_Child: no |
| 05:30.20 | ScytheBlade1 | oh man |
| 05:30.21 | End | hrmph, I think someone is messing with my SetItemRef |
| 05:30.28 | Thunder_Child | now who is saying no |
| 05:30.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Sudden idea of a wet t-shirt competition at the UI panel |
| 05:30.34 | Thunder_Child | hell no |
| 05:30.36 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be a fantastically bad idea |
| 05:30.42 | Thunder_Child | though tekkub might like it |
| 05:30.54 | tekkub | I like penetration! |
| 05:31.00 | porkbun | how come there's no ++ operator in lua? |
| 05:31.01 | tekkub | what what was it I might like? |
| 05:31.04 | porkbun | or is there and i can't find it :( |
| 05:31.08 | NightHawkTheSane | there isn't |
| 05:31.11 | Iriel | porkbun: it's i=i+1 |
| 05:31.16 | NightHawkTheSane | i=i+1 works just fine :) |
| 05:31.17 | Thunder_Child | tekkub " ScytheBlade1: Sudden idea of a wet t-shirt competition at the UI panel" |
| 05:31.33 | tekkub | I never really understood wet t-shirt contests |
| 05:31.35 | ScytheBlade1 | porkbun: lua "lacks" several features of modern languages intentionally |
| 05:31.51 | Iriel | I like to think of lua as "unnecessary feature resistant" |
| 05:31.54 | porkbun | ah okay :) nother question: can i exit a function early? |
| 05:31.59 | ScytheBlade1 | porkbun: return |
| 05:32.00 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 05:32.00 | Thunder_Child | meanders off for ice cream |
| 05:32.19 | Iriel | porkbun: 'return' |
| 05:32.26 | End | zomg Ace3 is messing with my SetItemRef? This isn't helping me! |
| 05:33.19 | porkbun | sweeet |
| 05:33.40 | porkbun | you guys are great :) thanks for answring so many questions |
| 05:33.52 | tekkub | that was your last one |
| 05:35.16 | NightHawkTheSane | now we start charging. |
| 05:37.09 | Zootfizzle | I won't |
| 05:37.11 | Zootfizzle | I'm always free |
| 05:37.13 | Zootfizzle | Like tekkub |
| 05:37.26 | tekkub | I'm not free |
| 05:37.27 | End | Zootfizzle is discharged |
| 05:37.32 | tekkub | easy ~= free |
| 05:37.55 | Zootfizzle | I can't go into this topic any further |
| 05:38.02 | *** part/#wowuidev Kyahx (n=Kyahx@c-71-63-210-186.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 05:38.04 | Zootfizzle | There's like, a bomb wired to my head, you've seen the comic |
| 05:38.09 | Zootfizzle | They're probably watching through my eyes |
| 05:38.09 | tekkub | okey I'll change the subject for you |
| 05:38.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 05:38.23 | Iriel | Zootfizzle: worse, they're smelling through your nose |
| 05:38.29 | tekkub | WTB doNotDisableLoadOutdatedAddons WTF setting |
| 05:38.30 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/05/23/ |
| 05:38.32 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 05:38.36 | Zootfizzle | Iriel: Are you trying to get me to smell terrible things? |
| 05:39.02 | Iriel | tekkub: I just want a "do not clear outdated addons flag if TOC didn't change" |
| 05:39.18 | Zootfizzle | WTS consideration |
| 05:39.29 | porkbun | .....now i know why the name zootfizzle seems so familiar |
| 05:39.32 | porkbun | durrr |
| 05:39.45 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.yellowlight.scratchspace.net/comics/sofar.html |
| 05:39.49 | Zootfizzle | Heya xD |
| 05:40.00 | tekkub | Iriel: *most* of the time it doesn't do that |
| 05:40.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Zootfizzle: so your interview was complete with a smooth talking guy detailing the bomb then? Good to know |
| 05:40.13 | tekkub | but what I'm asking for is to NEVER do it |
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| 05:40.23 | tekkub | if I log in to lua errors, well I WANT TO |
| 05:40.32 | Iriel | tekkub: you're a fringe case tho |
| 05:40.45 | tekkub | most the authors here would agree :P |
| 05:40.49 | Torhal | Good lord. I just want to push to my git repo FFS. |
| 05:41.00 | tekkub | hence why it should be undocumented, just something special for us |
| 05:41.16 | Iriel | Sleepy time! Night. |
| 05:41.19 | tekkub | but we know when we're not loved /emopanda |
| 05:41.48 | Iriel | tekkub: You think the panda has it bad, /emobambooshoots |
| 05:42.15 | Zootfizzle | tekkub: There's much love for authors in 3.2 |
| 05:42.17 | tekkub | thinks Iriel didn't get it |
| 05:42.29 | End | Blizzard employees are fed lots of chocolate milk |
| 05:42.30 | tekkub | Zootfizzle: how much love, exactly? |
| 05:42.32 | End | to keep them quiet |
| 05:42.33 | kd3 | is [flyable] getting fixed? |
| 05:42.36 | tekkub | at least 6.5 inches? |
| 05:42.42 | ScytheBlade1 | End: we were -just- over this: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/05/23/ |
| 05:42.47 | Torhal | Zootfizzle: You forbit addons with wowmatrix files from loading? |
| 05:42.49 | Iriel | tekkub: isn't it all about GIRTH? |
| 05:42.54 | End | grins. |
| 05:43.00 | Zootfizzle | I wasn't even supposed to admit that number existed yet! |
| 05:43.03 | Zootfizzle | Sheesh :) |
| 05:43.09 | tekkub | I didn't specify WHICH dimension that was |
| 05:43.09 | Torhal | grins. |
| 05:43.13 | Iriel | Zootfizzle: do you feel the detonator warming? |
| 05:43.20 | Zootfizzle | It kinda tingles |
| 05:43.23 | Iriel | Zootfizzle: Wrap your head in a towel, it wont help you, but it'll make cleanup less messy |
| 05:43.38 | Zootfizzle | ._. |
| 05:43.48 | Iriel | Anyway, i'm really out this time.. night folks. |
| 05:43.50 | tekkub | WET towel |
| 05:43.51 | Shirik | huggles Zootfizzle |
| 05:43.55 | Gnarfoz | also, you might be suspected of being a terrorist! |
| 05:44.01 | tekkub | a dry one'll probably just catch fire |
| 05:44.01 | Torhal | hates on the WoWAce git repo. |
| 05:44.10 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: sup |
| 05:44.13 | durcyn | sounds like PEBKAC, pal |
| 05:44.44 | Torhal | Bah. I set my damn ssh pub key, ran ssh-add, put the pub key on the profile on the web site, and still get Permission denied (publickey). |
| 05:44.45 | Gnarfoz | even I managed to get it to work, and I'm just mashing on my keyboard blindly, half of the time |
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| 05:44.56 | Gnarfoz | linux? meh, can't help ya |
| 05:44.56 | tekkub | ssh-add? |
| 05:45.00 | Torhal | tekkub: Aye |
| 05:45.08 | tekkub | why would you need to do that? |
| 05:45.09 | Gnarfoz | are you running the appropriate ssh-agent, too? |
| 05:45.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I've always liked PA's representation of blizzard people |
| 05:45.15 | tekkub | ~/.ssh/id_rsa |
| 05:45.19 | Gnarfoz | tekkub: for auth |
| 05:45.29 | ScytheBlade1 | tekkub: less RSA, more DSA |
| 05:45.33 | tekkub | I repeat, why do you need ssh-add? |
| 05:45.34 | durcyn | ssh-add doesn't do anything in and of itself, Gnarfoz |
| 05:45.44 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: that's what parameters are for, I guess! :D |
| 05:45.46 | durcyn | if ssh -i doesn't work, try try harder |
| 05:45.50 | tekkub | isn't there some flaw they found in DSA? |
| 05:45.52 | Torhal | tekkub: The damn knowledge base said to do that |
| 05:46.00 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: can you ssh there with ssh? |
| 05:46.00 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm |
| 05:46.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I didn't think so |
| 05:46.09 | durcyn | no, you just can't export RSA out of the states without a license |
| 05:46.14 | tekkub | Torhal: damn the knowledgebase, use the default |
| 05:46.20 | porkbun | g'night all :) |
| 05:46.22 | tekkub | ~/.ssh/id_(r|d)sa |
| 05:46.25 | Grum | durcyn: lol or you just do it ;) |
| 05:46.27 | End | what the hell is window's search so terrible :( |
| 05:46.30 | End | why* |
| 05:46.34 | durcyn | Grum: "legally" |
| 05:46.47 | ScytheBlade1 | tekkub: ah, it was related to the debian openssl problem |
| 05:46.49 | Grum | durcyn: yes because you cant do rsa outside of US :p |
| 05:46.52 | tekkub | End: why can't I turn the fucking thing off completely? |
| 05:47.02 | Grum | tekkub: you mean windows right? ;) |
| 05:47.03 | tekkub | I've not used a desktop search in... uh... ever? |
| 05:47.10 | tekkub | I know where my files are at, thanks |
| 05:47.11 | End | I -think- the indexer is off |
| 05:47.22 | End | fuck |
| 05:47.25 | End | I'll just install grep |
| 05:47.31 | Grum | double win! |
| 05:47.33 | tekkub | you can turn off the indexing, you can't turn off the indexer |
| 05:47.36 | Grum | but now you have to use the stupid cmd.exe :p |
| 05:47.43 | End | well |
| 05:47.50 | End | I'll do what I have to do |
| 05:48.10 | tekkub | lolcmd |
| 05:48.31 | tekkub | I really should try powershell, but I know I'll just be disappointed |
| 05:48.53 | End | you're saving powershell from embarassing itself? |
| 05:49.00 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: http://paste.wowace.com/x3l9mperav2udb8n/ |
| 05:49.59 | End | wow, yeah |
| 05:50.05 | End | I have a lot of shit hooking SetItemRef |
| 05:50.14 | End | too bad window's search was too terrible to search files for me |
| 05:50.34 | Grum | Gnarfoz: so fix your ~/.ssh/config to point to the right IdentityFile when connecting to git.wowace.com (or use an ssh-agent like pageant to handle it) |
| 05:50.52 | Gnarfoz | Grum: I love IRC. |
| 05:50.53 | Zuz666 | Grum, durcyn, Theris no problem use RSA outside US. RSA patent expired. |
| 05:51.17 | durcyn | that's what they said about GIF! |
| 05:51.21 | durcyn | oh... wait. |
| 05:51.41 | Gnarfoz | Grum: as you can clearly see, I was directing that at Torhal, since *he* is having problems. :D I'm on windows and am happily using pageant (putty's SSH key agent) ;-) |
| 05:51.51 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: and jpeg ;o |
| 05:52.01 | Grum | oh meh! blame windows |
| 05:52.07 | Grum | (just to blame something) |
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| 05:53.03 | Gnarfoz | as long as it's not my fault :D |
| 05:54.22 | durcyn | i dunno, can't trust people who have usernames like '8tImER' |
| 05:54.43 | Gnarfoz | ~blame Kaelten |
| 05:54.44 | purl | ACTION blames Kaelten (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 05:54.55 | Gnarfoz | or Adamar, whoever that is |
| 05:54.55 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 05:55.06 | Wobin | eightlmer? |
| 05:55.18 | Gnarfoz | Wobin: your font fails :) |
| 05:55.27 | Wobin | clearly |
| 05:55.59 | Gnarfoz | if you can't differentiate uppercase i's from lowercase L's, I'd suggest so! (if only to deflect ^^) |
| 05:57.59 | msou| | what is convey by the way? don't know what it means |
| 05:58.16 | msou| | convey bonuses |
| 05:58.33 | kd3 | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/convey |
| 05:58.59 | kd3 | case 3, roughly is how it got used there |
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| 05:59.29 | msou| | doubt the third one |
| 05:59.39 | msou| | Wearing more pieces of this set will convey bonuses to your character. |
| 06:00.01 | kd3 | reward, award, etc... |
| 06:00.09 | msou| | thank you |
| 06:00.33 | msou| | planning to get the vest today, I just don't know how to get the other two. legs/shoulders |
| 06:00.40 | Cairenn | anyone have the link right to hand of the thread on the Blizz UI forums about the solution to the big minimap blips? |
| 06:00.42 | msou| | I don't see them from the vendor in dalaran |
| 06:03.44 | Taroven | Is purl not taking PMs? >.> |
| 06:05.19 | Wobin | she's doing fine for me |
| 06:05.35 | Taroven | Weird. I can't get a response. |
| 06:05.43 | Sargeras | I don't |
| 06:05.48 | Sargeras | but I can give you a hug? |
| 06:06.04 | Taroven | *shrug* |
| 06:06.48 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 06:06.52 | Cairenn | huggles Sargeras |
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| 06:07.52 | Taroven | Is it possible to do something like "if UnitClass("player") == ("ROGUE" or "DRUID" or "WARRIOR") then", or do I really have to do it the long way? |
| 06:07.54 | msou| | ZorbaTHut: I'm pleased with the new release =) it did mis-place one quest with the older version |
| 06:08.08 | nevcairiel | long way, Taroven |
| 06:08.22 | Taroven | Ah well. Thanks nev. |
| 06:08.38 | nevcairiel | although you can cache the resturn value of the function in a local variable first |
| 06:08.44 | Kirov | select(2,UnitClass('player')) == "ROGUE", etc |
| 06:09.39 | Taroven | Eh, just doing example config code for someone, it's not for core code. |
| 06:10.23 | Grum | Taroven: local class_ok = {["ROGUE"] = 1,["DRUID"] = 1,["WARRIOR"] = 1); if class_ok[select(2, UnitClass("player"))] then .. end -- obviously a waste of a table but an alternative solution ;) |
| 06:11.31 | durcyn | tables aren't THAT expensive, it's lookups that are inefficient |
| 06:12.01 | krka | premature optimizations and assumptions ftw |
| 06:12.30 | ScytheBlade1 | lookups are inefficient? since when? |
| 06:12.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Assuming you mean table lookups, that is |
| 06:13.18 | durcyn | compared to pairs, last i checked |
| 06:13.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, that I can believe |
| 06:13.47 | Grum | direct key-lookups are not that expensive |
| 06:13.53 | ScytheBlade1 | But "inefficient" is still a bit harsh as compared to a lot of things that authors do |
| 06:13.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Most all things I'd wager |
| 06:14.14 | durcyn | it's orders of magnitudes less-bad than the select() =P |
| 06:15.31 | Taroven | So, has anyone attempted to modify the flyouts in the character window to be more itemrack-ish? |
| 06:15.50 | krka | i wonder if the best solution would be to generate lua for testing with if statements |
| 06:15.57 | krka | or if a plain lookup is best |
| 06:16.48 | durcyn | Taroven: try SwapMagic |
| 06:16.57 | Taroven | Used to use that. |
| 06:17.46 | Taroven | Since 3.1.2 was released, thus taking over Itemrack's use, I've actually been using the built in item swap... I just get really annoyed by it. |
| 06:18.36 | Taroven | Like, equipped trinkets are still shown in the flyout, no rarity glow, and the inventory icon bugs the hell out of me. |
| 06:19.13 | Taroven | I can deal with the equipped stuff showing, but I at least want to reduce the frame size a bit and get rid of the inventory icon at the end of the flyouts. |
| 06:19.17 | nevcairiel | who needs rarity glows if you only wear epics =) |
| 06:19.38 | Taroven | Heh, it's a preference thing, I'm just used to seeing it. =P |
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| 06:19.54 | nevcairiel | Shouldnt be hard for a mod to change those, though |
| 06:20.27 | End | that was annoying |
| 06:20.49 | End | my player chat links werent working because one of the scripts that hack comes with by default was failing |
| 06:22.28 | durcyn | hm, should probably add PaperDollFrameItemFlyoutButtons to fizzle or oGlow |
| 06:22.49 | Taroven | Looking at PaperDollFrame.lua now, found the flyout code... can't find where the to-inventory icon is thrown in |
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| 06:23.18 | Taroven | That'd be nice, durcyn. =P |
| 06:24.22 | Taroven | Ah ha, found it |
| 06:24.37 | Thunder_Child | auth server down? |
| 06:27.13 | Taroven | Well, thought I found it... |
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| 06:28.44 | durcyn | you want PaperDollFrameItemFlyout_DisplayButton |
| 06:29.12 | Taroven | Dunno, was thinking PaperDollFrameItemFlyout_DisplaySpecialButton |
| 06:29.25 | Taroven | But... dunno |
| 06:29.29 | durcyn | pretty sure the 'special buttons' are the put-in-bags/ignore-in-set buttons |
| 06:30.06 | Taroven | All I'm looking to do is remove that godawful texture, the button itself can stay. |
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| 06:30.17 | Taroven | (Itemrack-ish empty slot) |
| 06:30.22 | durcyn | the empty slot texture? |
| 06:30.29 | Taroven | yeah |
| 06:30.48 | durcyn | look at _DisplayButton, the SetButtonTexture call |
| 06:32.11 | Taroven | ah ha... |
| 06:32.17 | Taroven | elseif ( location == PDFITEMFLYOUT_PLACEINBAGS_LOCATION ) then |
| 06:32.30 | Taroven | Found the texture. |
| 06:33.40 | Taroven | Think I've got it figured out. |
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| 06:36.36 | tekkub | so no one has written an equip set dual spec autoswitcher? |
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| 06:36.48 | totalanni | any devs around? |
| 06:36.56 | tekkub | here? nope |
| 06:37.04 | totalanni | heh |
| 06:37.07 | totalanni | :-D |
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| 06:38.09 | totalanni | hey guys |
| 06:38.15 | End | still no devs! |
| 06:38.26 | Thunder_Child | damit End, i was going to do that |
| 06:38.27 | totalanni | anyone know of anything that would share auctioneer data with a friend? |
| 06:38.34 | totalanni | across a private channel? |
| 06:38.47 | totalanni | lets say person A scans... |
| 06:38.52 | Thunder_Child | damit tekkub, go write one |
| 06:38.55 | totalanni | then xmits data to friend? |
| 06:39.02 | Thunder_Child | you make em nice and lightweight |
| 06:39.06 | totalanni | to update their auctioneer? |
| 06:39.08 | tekkub | I DON"T WANNA! |
| 06:39.12 | totalanni | :-D |
| 06:39.14 | End | that sounds like a lot of data to send |
| 06:39.23 | totalanni | its all txt :-D |
| 06:39.24 | tekkub | though I do have the switch detect code already in Cork... |
| 06:39.27 | Thunder_Child | i'll make it worth your time tekkub |
| 06:39.33 | Thunder_Child | s/i'll make it worth your time tekkub// |
| 06:39.34 | tekkub | you will? |
| 06:39.35 | totalanni | its a great idea |
| 06:39.40 | Taroven | local pdf = PaperDollFrameItemFlyout.buttons; for i in pairs(pdf) do if pdf[i][location] == PDFITEMFLYOUT_PLACEINBAGS_LOCATION then SetItemButtonTexture(pdf[i], "TextureHere") end end end |
| 06:39.44 | Taroven | Rawr. =P |
| 06:39.56 | Taroven | Or something close to that. |
| 06:40.01 | Thunder_Child | not anymore, you have it already |
| 06:40.06 | Taroven | I prolly got the loop all wrong. |
| 06:40.08 | tekkub | Thunder_Child: there's one vital issue first |
| 06:40.19 | tekkub | I think you know what that is |
| 06:40.23 | totalanni | is there any type of svn tracker i can submit a ticket for a feature like that? |
| 06:40.24 | Wobin | totalanni: the full AH scan is enough to DC a single user |
| 06:40.34 | Thunder_Child | /cry |
| 06:40.37 | Wobin | Sending it to another user would mark the sender as a spammer and ban them |
| 06:40.44 | tekkub | I need a name |
| 06:40.52 | Wobin | Either that, or it would take so long, it's not worth the effort |
| 06:41.02 | totalanni | i mean |
| 06:41.26 | totalanni | damn |
| 06:41.37 | totalanni | thats blizz kickin ya |
| 06:41.40 | totalanni | isnt it? |
| 06:41.43 | Wobin | yes |
| 06:41.47 | Wobin | er no |
| 06:41.52 | Wobin | blizz sends the info |
| 06:41.52 | totalanni | you can control the send rate in the chat channel |
| 06:41.58 | Wobin | your connection fails cause it's overloaded |
| 06:42.00 | tekkub | Thunder_Child: Crossdresser? |
| 06:42.00 | End | if you really want share data, email your friend your SV file ;-) |
| 06:42.05 | totalanni | nah |
| 06:42.11 | Wobin | totalanni: to throttle the send rate |
| 06:42.12 | totalanni | my connection really doesnt crap out |
| 06:42.13 | Taroven | Think I'll just let the stupid back-to-inventory icon be and work on a little addon to switch gear with specs. =P |
| 06:42.16 | Thunder_Child | disturbingly tekkub, i like it |
| 06:42.22 | totalanni | and i get booted sometimes during high pop |
| 06:42.28 | tekkub | that works |
| 06:42.29 | Wobin | it would take longer than the reciever just going to an AH and clicking Scan |
| 06:42.37 | totalanni | while fast scan |
| 06:42.47 | totalanni | howso? |
| 06:42.51 | Wobin | totalanni: no, I've had my internet connection reset while trying to scan the AH on quick |
| 06:43.02 | totalanni | you can flood a custom chat pretty fast |
| 06:43.11 | Wobin | you're still limited by the spam check |
| 06:43.24 | Thunder_Child | tekkub, though it will have to have configuration options |
| 06:43.26 | Wobin | If you send too much information too fast over a channel, you get marked as a spammer |
| 06:43.29 | Wobin | by blizz |
| 06:43.39 | Wobin | and any further communication is blocked |
| 06:43.42 | totalanni | even in custom channels? |
| 06:43.45 | Wobin | yes |
| 06:43.46 | tekkub | actually I was planning on just using the set with the name that shares your spec |
| 06:43.49 | totalanni | where u are the mod? |
| 06:43.53 | tekkub | Thunder_Child: you think that wouldn't work? |
| 06:43.57 | Wobin | yes |
| 06:44.11 | Thunder_Child | tekkub, well A. i dont name em that, but also what if you have more than 2 sets |
| 06:44.14 | totalanni | then how is all this data exchange taking place? |
| 06:44.19 | totalanni | in like carbonite and whatnot |
| 06:44.23 | Wobin | what data exchange? |
| 06:44.31 | tekkub | well you can onloy have 2 specs |
| 06:44.33 | Thunder_Child | tekkub, eg. i have pvp healing and pvp |
| 06:44.38 | Thunder_Child | pve* |
| 06:44.40 | Thunder_Child | on the same spec |
| 06:44.43 | Wobin | whatever carbonite is doing, it's certainly not trying to send entire AH contents across the board |
| 06:44.43 | tekkub | oh true |
| 06:44.50 | tekkub | okey I'll add confingering |
| 06:44.57 | totalanni | eh |
| 06:45.02 | totalanni | its just an idea |
| 06:45.21 | totalanni | id send the sv file |
| 06:45.21 | Wobin | yeah, just pointing out that due to comm limitations, it's not a feasible one |
| 06:45.29 | totalanni | but that would replace my data with his |
| 06:45.39 | totalanni | and i really just want the days differences |
| 06:45.41 | Wobin | So, write a lua script to integrate it. |
| 06:45.54 | Wobin | and have it get run by the end user |
| 06:46.01 | totalanni | hum |
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| 06:48.52 | totalanni | i just thought of it while i was farming |
| 06:49.11 | Taroven | I needs a name for my new project (equips a specific set on spec change). |
| 06:49.14 | totalanni | and a friend who has auctioneer (but apparently doesnt know howto use it) was asking me price checks |
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| 06:55.10 | Taroven | And thus, Gearshift is started. =D |
| 06:57.13 | Wobin | totalanni: tell him lrn2AH |
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| 07:14.56 | Mike-N-Go | The topic for #WoWUIDev is: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/, ehh? |
| 07:15.20 | End | -!- Topic for #wowuidev: The topic for #WoWUIDev is: |
| 07:15.24 | End | :P |
| 07:15.36 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 07:15.39 | Grum | hehe |
| 07:15.52 | nevcairiel | someone messed up there =) |
| 07:16.07 | Grum | someone likes to paste |
| 07:16.13 | Wobin | blames Cairenn |
| 07:16.29 | Mike-N-Go | ~lart purl |
| 07:16.29 | purl | resizes mike-n-go's terminal to 40x24 |
| 07:16.49 | Mike-N-Go | frowns. |
| 07:17.29 | Cairenn | I am apparently missing something, what's wrong with the topic? |
| 07:18.05 | nevcairiel | it says "The topic for #WoWUIDev is:" in the topic |
| 07:18.07 | durcyn | The Topic for #WoWUIDev is recursive. |
| 07:18.16 | Cairenn | oh |
| 07:18.18 | Cairenn | that |
| 07:18.20 | Cairenn | meh |
| 07:18.27 | Grum | ogm fixie! |
| 07:18.28 | Cairenn | it's been discussed before :p |
| 07:18.58 | nevcairiel | ever half-useful client already says that before listing the actual topic contents |
| 07:19.00 | Grum | anything which is recursive in that way is broken! ... |
| 07:19.17 | Grum | . o O ( PHP Hy.... ) |
| 07:19.33 | nevcairiel | thats just a GNU-style term |
| 07:19.37 | nevcairiel | nothing wrong with those |
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| 07:20.18 | Grum | awws let me make fun of php :( |
| 07:20.21 | nevcairiel | Linux - Linux is not unix =p |
| 07:21.00 | Thunder_Child | is that a cartoon now as well? |
| 07:21.15 | Nechckn | Semi-silly question, I guess. Leveling a WAR, should I stick to two, 1-hand or some heavy-hitting 2 hander? the latter, right? |
| 07:22.00 | Thunder_Child | usualy |
| 07:22.16 | Elkano | 2 heavy-hitting 2handers? ;) |
| 07:23.08 | Nechckn | Not up to the 2 two-handers yet |
| 07:23.35 | Nechckn | Soon(tm) =) |
| 07:25.50 | Thunder_Child | every time i see 'Soon(tm)' i cringe |
| 07:26.02 | Nechckn | Wobin thanks for helping that guy, we got him "mostly" straight over in the norganna channel afterward. Why folks let their "friends" get away with using them for all of their pricing is beyond me. Were I on either side of that, I'd go nuts. |
| 07:26.14 | Nechckn | Thunder_Child sorry, I try not to use it. |
| 07:26.33 | Wobin | Nechckn: The "Send Auctioneer info over addon channel" fellow? =) |
| 07:26.36 | Thunder_Child | lies Nechckn |
| 07:26.37 | Nechckn | but, in my case, it's very true. Too many alts |
| 07:26.46 | Nechckn | Wobin yeah, that one. |
| 07:27.37 | Taroven | Hm. How would I go about checking if the player has dualspec enabled? |
| 07:27.43 | Nechckn | lol.. we actually get that request fairly often, I'm sure Blizz would just love that. |
| 07:28.14 | Taroven | Nevermind, found it |
| 07:28.26 | Nechckn | Send that 2mb file back and forth amongst all people requesting it=instant ick! |
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| 07:38.11 | Taroven | Anyone know if there's a way to check if an equipment set exists by name? |
| 07:39.14 | Taroven | Not sure if GetEquipmentSetInfo() returns based on name, id, or both, and I'm stuck drycoding for the moment |
| 07:39.29 | Taroven | s/both/either |
| 07:39.34 | Taroven | x.x |
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| 08:06.27 | Wobin | http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3082/movie.jpg |
| 08:06.32 | Wobin | anyone recognise this movie? |
| 08:06.48 | Wobin | apparently "chaos theory" plays into it |
| 08:10.45 | durcyn | Taroven: for i = 1, GetNumEquipmentSets() do local name, icon = GetEquipmentSetInfo(i) do stuff etc end |
| 08:11.04 | msou| | Wobin: I almost got things right with my DK finally =) |
| 08:11.15 | Wobin | msou|: good to hear =) |
| 08:11.31 | msou| | was placed 2 on VH hc, just need the items to get even higher dps |
| 08:11.53 | msou| | I have defense rings "wrong" legs armor since 76 "not good" |
| 08:12.09 | msou| | hopefully today I get the vest heroes of scourgebond something |
| 08:12.34 | msou| | the rogue placed on top.. he had epic items |
| 08:12.59 | msou| | I bought this 120G thingie for the helmet from ebon blade dunno if you're familiar with it |
| 08:13.31 | Wobin | ebon blade helmet? |
| 08:13.36 | msou| | and today will start hopefully doing that dailies to get the sndo'rei sword. bought mine from ebon blade |
| 08:13.36 | Wobin | oh enchant |
| 08:13.39 | Wobin | yeah, that's worth it |
| 08:13.42 | msou| | no something you add to the helmet |
| 08:13.53 | msou| | permanently |
| 08:13.59 | msou| | let me search for it |
| 08:14.00 | Wobin | The ebon blade sword isn't really good for DKs |
| 08:14.08 | Wobin | yeah, I know what you mean, the enchant |
| 08:14.13 | msou| | it's the best I can get |
| 08:14.16 | Wobin | aye |
| 08:14.25 | Wobin | it's more a hunter weapon |
| 08:14.30 | Wobin | as it doesnt have strength\ |
| 08:14.38 | msou| | I dunno if I should need a better weapon when it is 145dps |
| 08:14.41 | Wobin | You might want to look into the Heroic HoL axe |
| 08:14.42 | msou| | true |
| 08:14.44 | msou| | hmm |
| 08:14.51 | Wobin | or the crafted titansteel demolisher |
| 08:14.57 | Wobin | (or is it destroyer?) |
| 08:15.05 | Wobin | two handed titansteel mace, anyway |
| 08:15.25 | msou| | I think destroyer.. I picked minning and blacksmith yesterday.. will take a while |
| 08:15.47 | msou| | I was hoping to get the axe from loken yesterday |
| 08:16.10 | msou| | did hol a lot but never drops.. dropped a helmet luckily I got it |
| 08:16.27 | msou| | have a bad luck with need/greed |
| 08:17.35 | msou| | is there a vendor in dalaran that I can buy a better weapon you think? |
| 08:18.15 | msou| | I don't bother with AH.. prices are quite expensive and I am working on getting artisan.. flying and riding as a turtle speed wise |
| 08:18.25 | nevcairiel | there are no vendor weapons |
| 08:18.32 | nevcairiel | no main weapons anyway |
| 08:18.36 | nevcairiel | just off-hands etc |
| 08:18.56 | msou| | I see |
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| 08:19.30 | Wobin | and you're after a 2H anyway |
| 08:19.46 | msou| | yeah |
| 08:20.05 | Wobin | You could look into the tournament weapons |
| 08:20.18 | nevcairiel | oh right they have a 2h |
| 08:20.20 | msou| | I just know about that sindorei sword |
| 08:20.51 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45074 |
| 08:20.55 | nevcairiel | alliance version |
| 08:21.05 | msou| | horde here =) |
| 08:21.08 | Phtm | hi, is it ok to ask questions about lua here? |
| 08:21.39 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45205 |
| 08:21.47 | nevcairiel | stats seem to be the same, just cooler looks for horde =p |
| 08:21.51 | Mike-N-Go | Phtm: Ask away. |
| 08:21.55 | Wobin | yeah |
| 08:22.03 | msou| | hehe |
| 08:22.12 | msou| | will take 2-3 weeks to ge it |
| 08:22.31 | Wobin | the alliance one looks pretty cool |
| 08:22.41 | nevcairiel | its purple |
| 08:22.43 | TC-Away | Phtm, as long as you dont call it LUA you should be fine :p |
| 08:22.43 | krka | TC-Away: Lua is actually a portuguese word and it means "moon" ^_^ |
| 08:22.52 | Thunder_Child | like so |
| 08:22.54 | Mike-N-Go | Phtm: If we do not have the answer here, try #lua, too. |
| 08:22.55 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 08:23.23 | Phtm | i've been asking this question on the general lua chan, but i think that actually wasnt the right place |
| 08:23.25 | nevcairiel | servers get back up already |
| 08:23.30 | Phtm | the question is quite simple actually |
| 08:23.44 | Phtm | how do i iterate through a table, deleting some of its values along the way |
| 08:23.56 | Thunder_Child | krka, i think i liked your other auto-response better |
| 08:24.21 | nevcairiel | Phtm: use pairs |
| 08:24.35 | nevcairiel | for key, value in pairs(table) do ... end |
| 08:24.36 | krka | my other? |
| 08:24.41 | Phtm | nevcairiel: i did, and it didnt work :( |
| 08:24.48 | nevcairiel | pairs is safe when deleting and/or modifying entrys |
| 08:24.49 | Wobin | Phtm: because you're deleting them |
| 08:24.56 | nevcairiel | you just may not create new entrys |
| 08:25.02 | msou| | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45074 |
| 08:25.08 | msou| | looks nicer than sindo'rei |
| 08:25.15 | Phtm | well yes, thats what i want to do, delete them |
| 08:25.18 | nevcairiel | its purple ffs =p |
| 08:25.22 | msou| | haha |
| 08:25.31 | nevcairiel | its a freaking paladong sword |
| 08:25.39 | Thunder_Child | krka, yes..... |
| 08:26.09 | Phtm | for key, value in pairs(table) do if value == 'dirty then tremove(table, key) end end |
| 08:26.16 | Phtm | does not work... |
| 08:26.26 | krka | what other? |
| 08:26.40 | Phtm | * 'dirty' |
| 08:26.50 | nevcairiel | Phtm: do table[key] = nil |
| 08:27.07 | Thunder_Child | krka, to lazy to go search in my log file, the damn things takes forever to load |
| 08:27.10 | nevcairiel | if your table is a pure-array table, you do need to do something else |
| 08:27.23 | nevcairiel | pairs is only for hashes |
| 08:27.40 | Phtm | nevcairiel: it's a pure-array table :( |
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| 08:27.54 | tekkub | Thunder_Child: http://github.com/tekkub/Crossdresser/tree/master |
| 08:27.58 | tekkub | that is all, good night |
| 08:28.58 | Thunder_Child | tekkub, thats not an unusual file name.... |
| 08:29.31 | nevcairiel | i = 1; while (i <= #table) do if table[i] == 'dirty' then tremove(table, i) else i = i + 1 end |
| 08:30.01 | Phtm | oh :) |
| 08:30.15 | nevcairiel | misses one end |
| 08:30.17 | nevcairiel | at the end |
| 08:30.18 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 08:30.21 | Phtm | yeah |
| 08:30.28 | Phtm | looks like it might work |
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| 08:49.29 | durcyn | Taroven: http://paste.wowace.com/690/ |
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| 09:18.29 | Taroven | durcyn: Damn, yours got me beat. http://wowuidev.pastey.net/114588 |
| 09:18.35 | Taroven | (just finished drycode) |
| 09:18.55 | durcyn | i cheaed and modified antiarc's code from 3.1.1 ;) |
| 09:19.00 | Taroven | Why must pastey have tab issues. |
| 09:19.08 | Taroven | Heh. |
| 09:19.39 | Taroven | Hopefully I didn't do too badly for a self-contained addon and my first slashcommand. =P |
| 09:20.22 | Taroven | Need to run through and fix a couple entries and it SHOULD work. |
| 09:20.39 | durcyn | your slashcommands probably won't work actually >_> |
| 09:20.48 | Taroven | Doh. |
| 09:20.53 | Taroven | How so? |
| 09:21.07 | durcyn | or is the 1 implied on SLASH_GEARSHIFT |
| 09:21.28 | Taroven | It's not now. =P |
| 09:22.27 | durcyn | you've also got an edge case if the player learns dual talent specialization |
| 09:22.53 | Taroven | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/114589 for cleaner version |
| 09:23.02 | Taroven | (still can't get tabs to work, wtf) |
| 09:23.13 | Taroven | Edge case? |
| 09:23.37 | durcyn | yeah, your Init only runs once |
| 09:23.53 | Taroven | Good point. |
| 09:24.07 | Taroven | Is there an event fired when learning dualspec? |
| 09:24.19 | durcyn | eh, maybe SPELLS_CHANGED |
| 09:24.24 | Taroven | Meh. |
| 09:24.27 | durcyn | not even sure about that though, since it doesn't appear in the spellbook |
| 09:24.38 | Taroven | I can just throw in a note about it. |
| 09:25.07 | Taroven | It's not worth running an onupdate handler for unless I can just hook it. |
| 09:25.10 | durcyn | you're probably safe moving that GetNumTalentGroups() call into the event handler |
| 09:25.16 | durcyn | was my point |
| 09:25.20 | Taroven | Ah. |
| 09:25.23 | Taroven | That'd make sense. |
| 09:27.56 | Taroven | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/114590 - Something like that? |
| 09:28.49 | durcyn | i was referring to ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED, but same net result since that's your only registered event |
| 09:29.20 | Taroven | More comfortable with it in ATGC now that you mention it. |
| 09:30.00 | durcyn | (on a side note, that also means EventHandler is superfluous, but that's a matter of style) |
| 09:31.16 | Taroven | I'm just used to working with that... makes expansion a lot easier anyway |
| 09:32.00 | Taroven | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/114591 |
| 09:32.14 | Antiarc | http://www.gfilter.net/junk/humancasualties.png |
| 09:32.29 | Taroven | XD |
| 09:33.01 | Taroven | fires up WoW for the test run. |
| 09:33.15 | durcyn | Antiarc: because the best way to deliver information to a cyborg is obviously to display it on a HUD, in english, in the peripheral vision |
| 09:34.00 | Taroven | wtf... EventHorizon went incompatible? |
| 09:34.20 | durcyn | Taroven: patch resets load out of date, pro tip |
| 09:35.06 | Taroven | No, got load out of date enabled. EH is showing incompatible and not loading. |
| 09:35.48 | Taroven | My slashhandler seems to be borked. |
| 09:35.49 | Antiarc | If it's incompatible it doesn't have a 30xxx TOC number, likely |
| 09:35.53 | Antiarc | Or Blizzard blocked it. |
| 09:35.56 | Taroven | [05:35:34] Interface\AddOns\Gearshift\Gearshift.lua:26: bad argument #1 to 'strfind' (string expected, got nil) |
| 09:36.31 | Taroven | I highly doubt EventHorizon specifically got blocked. It's a buff/debuff/cd timer. |
| 09:37.06 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: didn't we establish recently that 3.0 had no "incompatible" thingy? IIRC that was only ever so with 2.0 ;) |
| 09:37.08 | Taroven | ...prolly helps if I have the right var set there |
| 09:39.07 | Jamash | I fixed a heisenbug! |
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| 09:41.39 | Taroven | Alright, partially unborked the slashhandler... |
| 09:41.50 | Taroven | (not doing it in two funcs now, that was kinda stoopid) |
| 09:42.47 | Taroven | I seem to fail at regex. |
| 09:43.42 | Jamash | If I've found something that may (or may not) be a bug in the WoW UI, should I post on the bug forum or the UI forum? |
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| 09:50.32 | Wobin | ... Glyph of innervate eh? |
| 09:50.41 | Wobin | how much is 90% of base manapool at 80? |
| 09:51.39 | durcyn | i got something like 15,000 out of it earlier, but that was out of combat |
| 09:52.01 | nevcairiel | base mana of a druid on 80 is rougly 3500 |
| 09:52.05 | Wobin | pity it doesn't scale |
| 09:52.21 | Jamash | sure it scales, just level up some more ;) |
| 09:52.25 | Wobin | =P |
| 09:52.37 | nevcairiel | lua> 3500 * 4.5 |
| 09:52.37 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 15750 |
| 09:52.42 | nevcairiel | sounds about right |
| 09:52.49 | nevcairiel | the glyph is still kinda useless if you ask me, though |
| 09:53.16 | Wobin | yeah |
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| 09:53.37 | Wobin | lua> 3500 *.9 |
| 09:53.37 | lua_bot | Wobin: 3150 |
| 09:53.43 | Wobin | whee 3k mana =P |
| 09:54.00 | Taroven | Over 20 seconds, no less. |
| 09:54.02 | nevcairiel | Hm it doesnt even avoid the 5sr anymore |
| 09:54.07 | nevcairiel | silly change =( |
| 09:54.10 | Taroven | lua> 3150/20 |
| 09:54.10 | lua_bot | Taroven: 157.5 |
| 09:54.37 | nevcairiel | the good thing is |
| 09:54.41 | Taroven | Well, guess that'd be better translated as... |
| 09:54.42 | nevcairiel | i can use it when feraling and need mana |
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| 09:55.02 | Taroven | lua> (3150/20)*5 |
| 09:55.02 | lua_bot | Taroven: 787.5 |
| 09:55.10 | Wobin | lua> 18900/3500 |
| 09:55.10 | lua_bot | Wobin: 5.4 |
| 09:55.12 | Taroven | 787 mp5 ain't too horrible. |
| 09:55.37 | Wobin | still not as good as it could be =P |
| 09:55.43 | Taroven | ...unless I totally got that wrong, which I might've. |
| 09:56.00 | bluspacecow | lua> pi |
| 09:56.00 | lua_bot | bluspacecow: nil |
| 09:56.10 | bluspacecow | i fail |
| 09:56.41 | msou| | when ppl ask for stats they mean crit rate? |
| 09:57.07 | bluspacecow | depends |
| 09:57.12 | bluspacecow | what class ? |
| 09:57.17 | msou| | Dk |
| 09:57.22 | bluspacecow | is it class that for crit rate is important ? |
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| 09:57.26 | bluspacecow | what spec of DK > |
| 09:57.33 | msou| | unholy |
| 09:57.55 | Wobin | when people ask for stats from a dps, they mean what your average dps is |
| 09:57.56 | bluspacecow | ok lets say you have a choice between 3 weapons |
| 09:58.03 | msou| | one dumb asked me for stats for a VH hc.. I see a lot ask for it for naxx but never hc instances |
| 09:58.07 | Taroven | Okay, I'm totally starting to brainfart here. |
| 09:58.13 | msou| | Wobin: oh I see |
| 09:58.16 | msou| | let me check |
| 09:58.19 | bluspacecow | would you choose the weapon with the most crit on it over the others ? |
| 09:58.26 | msou| | my hit rate is 224 |
| 09:58.34 | Wobin | bluspacecow: that's simplfying it a bit |
| 09:58.45 | bluspacecow | i know ;D |
| 09:58.53 | bluspacecow | i'm not a theorycrafter .... |
| 09:58.54 | Wobin | msou|: what percentage is that? |
| 09:59.00 | Wobin | ie, is it over 8% |
| 09:59.05 | Wobin | if so, then you're fine =P |
| 09:59.11 | Wobin | if not, try to get it there |
| 09:59.18 | Grum | if you dont have an offhand that is ;) |
| 09:59.20 | msou| | blue to be truthful I used to care about dps.. now strength and stamina and crit strike + attack power |
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| 09:59.42 | bluspacecow | oks :D |
| 09:59.46 | Wobin | generally speaking, people don't care what your str/stam/critrate are |
| 09:59.49 | bluspacecow | neither do i |
| 09:59.54 | Wobin | they care if you can output the required amount of damage |
| 10:00.07 | msou| | Wobin: the only precentage I see is crit chance 19.96 but that's not updated yet. should be 21,8 iirc |
| 10:00.12 | bluspacecow | i dont wanna eat my salad :( |
| 10:00.18 | Taroven | Pattern matching... if I want a,b = "1 foo", where 1 would always be a number, what pattern would I use? |
| 10:00.30 | msou| | Wobin: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Aammaa |
| 10:00.32 | bluspacecow | a good one |
| 10:00.34 | Taroven | 12 hour shift -> programming = OW |
| 10:00.41 | Grum | (%d) (.*) |
| 10:00.55 | Grum | or actually |
| 10:01.01 | Grum | (%d+) (.*) |
| 10:01.01 | msou| | still old, got better helmet with the enchant, back armor etc |
| 10:01.19 | Taroven | Single digit only, shouldn't need the + |
| 10:01.46 | Grum | lua> print(("1 foo"):match("(%d+) (.*)")) |
| 10:01.46 | lua_bot | Grum: 1, foo |
| 10:01.53 | Grum | lua> print(("1 foo"):match("(%d) (.*)")) |
| 10:01.53 | lua_bot | Grum: 1, foo |
| 10:03.43 | Wobin | msou|: You need more hit rating |
| 10:03.52 | Wobin | until you hit 8% |
| 10:03.59 | Wobin | that will be the best way to up your dps |
| 10:04.12 | Taroven | Woot, think I got it. |
| 10:04.19 | msou| | working on it.. hopefully I get that vest and a better weapon today |
| 10:04.49 | bluspacecow | this ckknight podcast interview is real cool :D |
| 10:06.21 | bluspacecow | ~/lart Wobin |
| 10:07.08 | Wobin | ~lart bluspacecow |
| 10:07.08 | purl | plops bluspacecow into a giant vat of herring |
| 10:07.08 | bluspacecow | :D oh hai |
| 10:07.16 | bluspacecow | mmmm fish |
| 10:07.41 | Wobin | bluspacecow: You're the same named bluspacecow on the forums? |
| 10:07.49 | bluspacecow | that is i |
| 10:07.54 | Wobin | welcome =P |
| 10:07.56 | bluspacecow | -_- caught |
| 10:08.05 | bluspacecow | *puts pants on* |
| 10:08.40 | Taroven | durcyn: Are you absolutely sure that ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED works as an event here? |
| 10:11.48 | durcyn | Taroven: Yes, and has since 3.1.0 |
| 10:12.06 | Taroven | Hm, odd then. *adds a bunch of debug messages* |
| 10:13.14 | Grum | bluspacecow: urrel for the podcast? |
| 10:13.22 | bluspacecow | omg life bloom rules |
| 10:13.25 | bluspacecow | hang on grum |
| 10:13.39 | bluspacecow | http://rawrbitchrawr.blogspot.com/2009/05/rawrcast-ep-19-curse-episode.html |
| 10:14.03 | Grum | http://rawrbitchrawr.blogspot.com/2009/05/rawrcast-ep-19-curse-episode.html |
| 10:14.04 | Grum | ah hehe |
| 10:14.06 | Grum | googleftw :D |
| 10:14.22 | bluspacecow | your browser fu is mighty then mine |
| 10:23.12 | Taroven | Odd... |
| 10:23.50 | Taroven | durcyn: ATGC doesn't seem to be registering or firing at all. |
| 10:24.01 | durcyn | you're drunk |
| 10:24.23 | Taroven | or just really tired |
| 10:24.54 | |pez| | Those two usually have the same effects on the body. |
| 10:25.10 | Taroven | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/114593 |
| 10:25.52 | Taroven | It's not even firing the print. |
| 10:26.12 | Taroven | Init fires fine, settings apply through the slashhandler. |
| 10:27.02 | Taroven | (init fires on PLAYER_LOGIN) |
| 10:27.15 | Taroven | or PLAYER_ALIVE, depending on talent state at reloadui |
| 10:28.20 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 10:28.26 | bluspacecow | this is interestinfg |
| 10:28.35 | bluspacecow | playing wow in gloves |
| 10:28.38 | bluspacecow | i is cxold |
| 10:28.53 | Taroven | XD |
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| 10:29.37 | Taroven | sleep tiems nao |
| 10:29.47 | Taroven | will figure it out after the next 10 hour shift. x.x |
| 10:29.52 | bluspacecow | ni ni |
| 10:30.04 | Taroven | passes out. |
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| 10:50.21 | msou| | wobi you think that mace is better than what I have |
| 10:50.37 | msou| | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44244#. |
| 10:50.37 | msou| | working on the rep atm |
| 10:51.07 | msou| | Better than Runeblade of the demonstrable power |
| 10:51.08 | Wobin | yes |
| 10:51.11 | Wobin | er |
| 10:51.11 | msou| | hmm |
| 10:51.11 | Wobin | no |
| 10:52.04 | Wobin | http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=44244;44249 |
| 10:53.34 | msou| | o I see |
| 10:53.37 | sacarasc | I'd go with the sword for the most part, unless you're a tank/want the stamina. |
| 10:54.16 | Wobin | I thought you were talking about the titansteel mace =P |
| 10:54.58 | Wobin | basically the strength matches the AP of the sword |
| 10:56.10 | Wobin | but then the agi gives you crit |
| 10:56.19 | Wobin | and armour |
| 10:56.26 | Wobin | so go the sword til you get a better weapon |
| 11:00.15 | msou| | ohh |
| 11:00.21 | msou| | so dks needs agility too? |
| 11:00.36 | msou| | I tend to ignore that part, just focus on strength and stamina |
| 11:00.42 | msou| | hmmm |
| 11:00.47 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45074 |
| 11:02.15 | msou| | was using the axe from lvl 75 until I got my rep to rev in ebon blade |
| 11:02.30 | msou| | the axe from that ring of blood part 2 or some such |
| 11:02.38 | msou| | in zul'darak |
| 11:04.46 | msou| | I've always liked the idea of playing and figuring things out, in WoW you actually have to search for a certain info |
| 11:05.38 | msou| | I was happy I was second yesterday with my crappy items. rings etc. I got a better helmet and cloak that isn't listed in wowarmory |
| 11:07.26 | batrick | __gc metamethods can cause a sandbox to be so ugly |
| 11:07.31 | batrick | glares at Shirik. |
| 11:08.30 | bluspacecow | ~fish Shirik |
| 11:08.31 | purl | ACTION slaps Shirik around with a large trout |
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| 11:11.22 | msou| | the axe I like is |
| 11:11.33 | msou| | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39417#. |
| 11:11.41 | msou| | and the sword of course armageddon |
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| 11:11.45 | msou| | both from naxx :/ |
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| 11:16.16 | bluspacecow | net split ? |
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| 11:22.13 | Aelobin | anyone know what blizz are doing about the addons that dont abide by the UI policy? |
| 11:22.18 | Aelobin | yesterday was the deadline iirc |
| 11:22.32 | bluspacecow | idk |
| 11:22.35 | bluspacecow | a trapdoor |
| 11:22.42 | bluspacecow | ya hooooeeeeeeeyyyy........ |
| 11:23.22 | Aelobin | i've never been through a trapdoor and now i want to :< |
| 11:23.30 | Aelobin | dammit bluspacecow :( |
| 11:23.44 | bluspacecow | hmmmm |
| 11:23.46 | bluspacecow | i wonder |
| 11:23.51 | bluspacecow | ~trapdoor Aelobin |
| 11:23.58 | Aelobin | lol |
| 11:24.24 | Aelobin | gogo blood boil nerf :( |
| 11:24.50 | bluspacecow | <-- has a sudden desire to listen to the Asshole song |
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| 12:05.13 | jnwhiteh | http://apidiff.pastey.net/114595 |
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| 12:13.06 | Wobin | =\ |
| 12:13.12 | Wobin | I'm going to end up gorging myself sick on these |
| 12:13.23 | bluspacecow | ? |
| 12:13.28 | bluspacecow | wot we eating ma dear |
| 12:13.36 | Wobin | just made cinnamon walnut rolls |
| 12:13.53 | Wobin | and oh god nomnomnom |
| 12:14.04 | bluspacecow | you cant have just 1 |
| 12:14.08 | Wobin | it's true |
| 12:14.20 | Wobin | luckily, or unluckily, I have a whole trayful |
| 12:14.40 | bluspacecow | soon to be "had a whole trayful" |
| 12:14.54 | Wobin | =\ |
| 12:15.04 | Wobin | . o O ("nomnomnomnomnomnom") |
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| 12:17.21 | Wobin | I think next time, some cinnamon in the dough itself |
| 12:17.44 | bluspacecow | need some vegemite in it |
| 12:17.54 | Wobin | nah, that's a completely different roll |
| 12:18.25 | Wobin | I just buy those from the bakery |
| 12:18.34 | Wobin | since it's not worth baking a whole tray for myself of those |
| 12:18.49 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 12:18.56 | bluspacecow | you has vegemite rolls ? |
| 12:19.02 | Wobin | yep |
| 12:19.08 | bluspacecow | where? |
| 12:19.28 | Wobin | um. Baker's Delight? |
| 12:19.46 | Wobin | They have a nice wholemeal vegemite scroll |
| 12:20.00 | bluspacecow | no i meant wot country you in .... im in NZ |
| 12:20.05 | Wobin | oh Aus |
| 12:20.53 | bluspacecow | my yankie friends think its gross |
| 12:21.08 | Wobin | clearly he had a bit too much at once =) |
| 12:21.47 | bluspacecow | idk i mention vegemite , cheese and brussel sprouts on toast and she goes *vomit* |
| 12:22.00 | Wobin | heheh |
| 12:22.12 | zenzio | maybe she just doesn't like food |
| 12:22.14 | Wobin | "Taunt the Forn'er" is so much fun at times |
| 12:22.26 | bluspacecow | oh i know :D |
| 12:23.17 | bluspacecow | you should see eta's latest potatoe chip creationg |
| 12:25.39 | bluspacecow | mince pie and tomato sauce flavoured potato chips |
| 12:26.30 | bluspacecow | opps it was bluebird |
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| 12:40.21 | foxlit | www.wow.com << The shock. The horror. |
| 12:41.41 | bluspacecow | i know right |
| 12:42.25 | bluspacecow | im still gonna calle it wow insider |
| 12:43.16 | bluspacecow | can droods cure diesase |
| 12:43.54 | foxlit | I'd answer that, but I'm too upset by the spilleng. |
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| 12:44.08 | bluspacecow | ? |
| 12:44.25 | bluspacecow | can druids cure disease ? |
| 12:44.36 | Lopeppeppy | Don't believe so. |
| 12:44.38 | foxlit | no. |
| 12:44.46 | jnwhiteh | poison and curse |
| 12:44.57 | Lopeppeppy | Elves don't get sick, you see. |
| 12:45.06 | foxlit | I wonder why there isn't an "Abolish Curse" |
| 12:45.22 | foxlit | (and, along the same lines, "Abolish Magic") |
| 12:45.34 | jnwhiteh | rogues |
| 12:45.50 | Lopeppeppy | It's bad enough that everything holy is "holy this" "sanctified that" and awesome the other thing... |
| 12:45.57 | jnwhiteh | no other effect reapplies itself like a rogue's poison does |
| 12:46.29 | foxlit | and yet there is an "Abolish Disease" |
| 12:46.51 | jnwhiteh | DK's and disease clouds :P |
| 12:47.08 | foxlit | DK's didn't exist when that spell was introduced. |
| 12:47.17 | jnwhiteh | disease clouds :P |
| 12:47.19 | jnwhiteh | but yeah |
| 12:47.25 | jnwhiteh | its bizarre |
| 12:47.47 | Lopeppeppy | foxlit, how do YOU know DK's didn't exist then? /conspiracy |
| 12:48.10 | foxlit | ToU: last updated april 14, 2009 |
| 12:48.41 | foxlit | Hm, that'd be the european operations handover. |
| 12:49.09 | krka | holy this, batman! |
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| 13:10.03 | foxlit | Hm, someone reported a bug about not being able to drop equipment manager sets into ring. |
| 13:10.05 | foxlit | s |
| 13:10.40 | foxlit | I can't imagine the machinations that one had to go through to actually interact with the equipment manager flyout at the same time as with the UI options dialog. |
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| 13:19.26 | Zhinjio | G'morning, folks. |
| 13:20.00 | Lopeppeppy | Morning |
| 13:20.54 | batrick | jnwhiteh: This sandbox is going to take a while to get perfect |
| 13:21.09 | jnwhiteh | what problems are ya running into? |
| 13:21.12 | batrick | You need to do all sorts of tasks laboriously through another thread |
| 13:21.22 | batrick | stopping the GC and what not |
| 13:21.44 | jnwhiteh | ah |
| 13:21.50 | batrick | To string metamethods or __gc metamethods can break it |
| 13:22.34 | batrick | I want to keep most of the debug library available, and that means doing only certain things in the main thread |
| 13:22.59 | jnwhiteh | ah yeah, exposing most of debug does cause issues |
| 13:24.52 | batrick | Ya I just broke it |
| 13:24.56 | batrick | !lua getmetatable(newproxy(true)).__gc = function() error"bye" end |
| 13:24.59 | batrick | does it in |
| 13:25.19 | batrick | I hoped it would just restart but apparently it does not |
| 13:27.01 | foxlit | "-- Use me, I'm here to be used." |
| 13:30.02 | Lopeppeppy | *cough* |
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| 13:31.53 | foxlit | grrr |
| 13:31.58 | foxlit | GetEquipmentSetInfo(index) |
| 13:32.11 | foxlit | Yet everything else is "name" :/ |
| 13:32.47 | foxlit | GetEquipmentSetInfoByName <3 |
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| 13:41.12 | foxlit | Hm, is it my network connection, or did EU servers just take a dive? |
| 13:42.15 | Lopeppeppy | People are complaining of outages since the patch yesterday, it's possible that EU kicked the bucket |
| 13:42.59 | jnwhiteh | i'm still on eu |
| 13:43.14 | foxlit | Don't budge, then, "Login Server Down" |
| 13:46.04 | jnwhiteh | kk |
| 13:47.36 | Fisker- | o hai foxlit |
| 13:47.40 | Fisker- | account merges go! |
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| 13:49.27 | Lopeppeppy | Go go go!! |
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| 14:10.43 | p3lim | I wonder why the norwegian numbers for wow phone support doesnt work |
| 14:10.51 | p3lim | tried using all 3 on 4 different phones |
| 14:11.46 | Lopeppeppy | What is "doesn't work" ? |
| 14:11.46 | |pez| | I've never had to call Norwegian WoW Support... |
| 14:12.50 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy: Maybe it means "broketeded". |
| 14:13.21 | Lopeppeppy | "doesn't work" could mean "busy", "out of order message", "keep getting disconnected" ... |
| 14:13.24 | Lopeppeppy | A lot of things. |
| 14:18.45 | foxlit | lua> string.char(126) |
| 14:18.46 | lua_bot | foxlit: ~ |
| 14:18.53 | foxlit | lua> string.char(124) |
| 14:18.53 | lua_bot | foxlit: | |
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| 14:36.29 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 14:37.42 | kraft|afk | moo |
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| 14:41.08 | kneeki | Warlock Tier 8.5 helm + Tier 7.5 shoulder = smog machine. Al Gore would have my ass! |
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| 14:52.44 | p3lim | Lopeppeppy: both of the two last |
| 14:53.00 | p3lim | "out of order beeps" and "keep getting disconnected at random times" |
| 14:54.06 | Lopeppeppy | The disconnects and out of order are problematic... Have you posted on the EU Customer Service forum yet, there might be other phone numbers that the CM's can give you, or advice. |
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| 15:11.09 | Osstia | morning |
| 15:11.14 | Lopeppeppy | Heyo |
| 15:11.31 | AckisWork | so |
| 15:11.43 | AckisWork | if you gf wets her fingers and wipes your face before you go into work |
| 15:11.46 | AckisWork | do you have any balls left? |
| 15:11.59 | Osstia | No |
| 15:12.06 | Osstia | you are officially renting them from her |
| 15:12.29 | Lopeppeppy | You're scrod, Ackis. |
| 15:12.41 | AckisWork | k |
| 15:12.43 | Lopeppeppy | But I think it's also payback (justly deserved!) for the dishwasher cracks you've been making. |
| 15:12.44 | Wobin | dhttp://www.wow.com/2009/05/20/welcome-to-wow-com/ |
| 15:12.47 | Wobin | er http://www.wow.com/2009/05/20/welcome-to-wow-com/ |
| 15:12.59 | Wobin | calling it an 'Addon' is a bit ... decieving, isn't it? |
| 15:13.09 | Wobin | since it's actually an executable... |
| 15:13.22 | _rane | blizzard approves that domain? :P |
| 15:13.26 | AckisWork | Wobin: it's both |
| 15:13.37 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: I just linked my gf what you said, I think she's your new best friend now |
| 15:13.49 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 15:13.50 | Wobin | ah so it is |
| 15:14.04 | nicoli_s | thats the kind of shit that makes people go "curse charges for curse client and its an addon so they is breaking the law(aka the ToS)" |
| 15:14.04 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/contests/1-test-contest/ |
| 15:15.13 | Lopeppeppy | IANAL is the crappiest online user base. |
| 15:15.41 | Wobin | ckknight: pft, needs to finish contest naow =P |
| 15:15.55 | AckisWork | Wobin: are you on wow.com? |
| 15:16.07 | Wobin | "on"? |
| 15:16.11 | AckisWork | http://profile.wow.com/user/ackis/ |
| 15:16.13 | AckisWork | :D |
| 15:16.15 | ckknight | I'll mark it as closed once I get the code for picking winners and such in |
| 15:16.36 | nicoli_s | oh so curseforge judges the entires for you? |
| 15:16.43 | Wobin | AckisWork: oh, no I'm not |
| 15:17.03 | Wobin | Not sure if I'll bother |
| 15:17.25 | AckisWork | I do it since I dick around with wowinsiders twitter stuff |
| 15:17.31 | ckknight | nicoli_s: no, we'll judge. |
| 15:17.41 | ckknight | or make others judge |
| 15:17.43 | ckknight | not 100% sure |
| 15:19.03 | Wobin | AckisWork: hm, so their addon is like Twitter? |
| 15:19.10 | Wobin | I guess I can stop writing mine then =P |
| 15:19.30 | Seerah | so is the new wowinsider .exe thing like magelo?..... |
| 15:19.34 | AckisWork | Wobin: I think so yes, I didn't install it last night because a) it was a .exe and b) the .exe was named .exe! |
| 15:19.50 | Wobin | yeah, I'm not running that, I'm afraid =P |
| 15:20.29 | Fisker- | naw Seerah |
| 15:20.43 | Seerah | don't see a description/page for it |
| 15:20.43 | Wobin | ... aol.com? |
| 15:20.53 | Fisker- | http://www.wow.com/help/addon |
| 15:21.19 | Fisker- | anyways |
| 15:21.25 | Fisker- | blizzard should send an C&D |
| 15:21.30 | Fisker- | because of the domain name |
| 15:21.50 | Lopeppeppy | They can't own the world, Fisker-. |
| 15:22.03 | Fisker- | wanna bet? |
| 15:22.04 | Lopeppeppy | If they didn't squat that domain name themselves, it's their loss. |
| 15:22.10 | Seerah | thank you, Fisker- |
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| 15:22.16 | Fisker- | IANA disagrees Lopeppeppy |
| 15:22.24 | |pez| | wow is not their trademark, World of Warcraft is. |
| 15:22.30 | AckisWork | sends Fisker- a C&D for breathing |
| 15:22.37 | Fisker- | fu |
| 15:22.48 | AckisWork | :D |
| 15:23.03 | Seerah | one of the comments says that Compuserve had wow.com since 1996 and then AOL got it when they bought Compuserve |
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| 15:26.02 | theorbtwo | Trademarks don't just cover a single literal string, though, they cover anything "confusingly similar". |
| 15:26.29 | theorbtwo | Considering WoW.com is a site about World of Warcraft, there's a pretty good argument to be had there. |
| 15:27.02 | Jamash | it's not pretending to be an official site, though |
| 15:27.06 | theorbtwo | Blizard wouldn't neccessarly win, but they wouldn't get laughed out of court, and that's enough to bury them in expensive lawyers. |
| 15:27.17 | Fisker- | they don't have to go to court |
| 15:27.21 | Jamash | the question is whether blizzard cares |
| 15:27.36 | Jamash | diabloii.net, starcraft.org etc. have operated for years |
| 15:27.50 | AckisWork | diablo3.com |
| 15:27.56 | AckisWork | wasn't that one that the guy gave to them? |
| 15:28.01 | Cide | yes |
| 15:28.02 | Fisker- | well Jamash |
| 15:28.03 | Cide | or sold, who knows |
| 15:28.07 | Wobin | ugh |
| 15:28.09 | Fisker- | they seem to care more for every passing day |
| 15:28.09 | Cide | it's blizzard's now anyway |
| 15:28.20 | Wobin | It has taken me over 5 minutes to figure out how to get aol logins working |
| 15:28.24 | Wobin | and it still hasn't worked |
| 15:28.30 | Osstia | . |
| 15:28.33 | Cide | their "profiles" sure seem meaty |
| 15:28.34 | Fisker- | He pretty much traded it in exchange for a link at Diablo3.com + some extra community perks |
| 15:28.37 | Wobin | This is more effort than I'm willing to expend on this stupid profile thing |
| 15:28.42 | Fisker- | though basically they could just have said "Fork it over" |
| 15:28.49 | Cide | level and achievement points |
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| 15:30.22 | Wobin | it involves a whole lot of "log out then push the data up" |
| 15:30.30 | Wobin | I wonder how many people will actually do that every time |
| 15:30.44 | foxlit|mac | Not as big a problem as you think |
| 15:31.10 | foxlit|mac | If we're looking at somewhat casual gaming, you basically log in, do a few quests, perhaps post a "zomg, Tirion is awesome", and log out for the night. |
| 15:31.14 | Wobin | actually, I'll keep working on my Twitter addon =P It's all ingame, so it's different |
| 15:31.27 | Jamash | twitter addon? O_o |
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| 15:31.53 | Wobin | @describe Squawk |
| 15:31.54 | Repo | Wobin: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/squawk/. Squawk. A Twitteresqe client for in game notifications to your friends as to just -what- you're thinking |
| 15:32.03 | Jamash | interesting |
| 15:32.10 | Wobin | hehe flagRSP2 was a Rock addon? |
| 15:32.14 | AckisWork | Wobin: someone submitted an addon to interface wow w/ twitter the other day |
| 15:32.26 | Wobin | really? |
| 15:32.29 | Lopeppeppy | That's not an addon, that's an external program... |
| 15:32.48 | AckisWork | Wobin: aye, development stages, I denied it :P |
| 15:32.52 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: I knows! :D |
| 15:33.01 | Wobin | denied? =) |
| 15:33.05 | Wobin | ah |
| 15:33.21 | Wobin | Yeah, Squawk is all contained within the game, no external linkage to the real Twitter |
| 15:33.21 | Jamash | DENIED! |
| 15:33.41 | Wobin | I'm trying to mirror the functionality though |
| 15:34.13 | foxlit|mac | I think, for the good of the human race, we might just have to kill someone. |
| 15:34.25 | Jamash | tom cruise? |
| 15:34.51 | Lopeppeppy | Sarah Palin? |
| 15:34.57 | Lopeppeppy | My Grand Boss? |
| 15:35.30 | |Jelly| | WTB Bridge. PST |
| 15:36.03 | Jamash | |Jelly|: would you prefer brooklyn or golden gate? |
| 15:36.05 | Lopeppeppy | Gonna sell it, Jelly? :) |
| 15:36.14 | |Jelly| | I'm gonna try! |
| 15:36.25 | alestane | Wireless or contract? |
| 15:36.45 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: I have a lovely Sydney Harbour bridge for you if you want |
| 15:36.52 | |Jelly| | Woah. Woah. Woah. No need to get technical here! |
| 15:36.54 | Wobin | You may have to organise delivery however |
| 15:37.08 | Lopeppeppy | No thanks, Wobin, I have one, it's very nice! |
| 15:37.27 | Wobin | I stopped including shipping when I had that debacle about the Opera House |
| 15:38.19 | |Jelly| | What? Did some jerk think it was Buy one Bridge, get one Opera House free for the LOW, EASY MONTHLY PAYMENTS of 8193.32? |
| 15:40.36 | Lopeppeppy | Someone needs to outlaw IE on campus. I'm so tired of it. |
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| 15:41.12 | |Jelly| | But. But. But. ... yeah, I got nothin |
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| 15:41.54 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly. Neither does the sheeple, because she insists on using IE as well as multiple other resource hogging applications on a computer with just 512 RAM. That does not fly. It falls. |
| 15:42.02 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: ur website dosnt load in my NCSA Mosaic :( |
| 15:42.28 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: also, most computers don't fly |
| 15:42.36 | Jamash | mine does |
| 15:42.38 | Lopeppeppy | I'll be sure to report that to our team programmer, zenzelezz, but we do recommend Firefox for your browsing pleasure. |
| 15:42.44 | Jamash | in a downward direction |
| 15:42.45 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 15:42.52 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: \o/ |
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| 16:23.19 | Lunessa | station |
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| 16:28.34 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, dear. |
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| 16:37.35 | AckisWork | needs priestly help |
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| 16:38.16 | Llamabark | healbot,grid,clique,pitbull. it isn't your fault, they stood in the fire, yes they have to run back and not wait for a rez |
| 16:38.32 | AckisWork | lol |
| 16:38.38 | AckisWork | I don't use healbot or grid :P |
| 16:38.43 | AckisWork | sraidframes :D |
| 16:38.53 | Lopeppeppy | I use sRaidFrames sometimes too. |
| 16:38.56 | AckisWork | but I got T8.5 helm, what do I toss on it for a meta/gem? |
| 16:39.01 | Lopeppeppy | Get yourself some Clique, AckisWork! |
| 16:39.30 | Lunessa | AckisWork: The kind of help YOU need comes in padded rooms. :P |
| 16:39.30 | Llamabark | did you have a priest specific question? |
| 16:40.05 | Stanzilla | AckisWork: the mana on procc thingy |
| 16:40.11 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: I do use clique! I just wished it worked with keys too though :( |
| 16:40.13 | Stanzilla | (21 int) |
| 16:40.17 | AckisWork | Stanzilla: 21 int/mana proc? |
| 16:40.20 | Stanzilla | yus |
| 16:40.22 | Lopeppeppy | What do you mean, with keys too, Ackis? |
| 16:40.46 | AckisWork | i want to hover over someone and press 2 and they get renewed |
| 16:41.03 | AckisWork | Stanzilla: what about the gem itself? I don't know what's "best" anymore for priests |
| 16:41.11 | AckisWork | (afk quickly for a work picture) |
| 16:41.15 | Llamabark | ah, clique is good for that, can also set up mouseover macros |
| 16:42.35 | Stanzilla | AckisWork: you can gem nearly everything, just need some basic int/spi/crit values and the rest is haste |
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| 16:47.22 | nicoli_s | were there any changes to the talent tree positions in 3.1.2? |
| 16:47.36 | alestane | Don't believe so. |
| 16:47.46 | nicoli_s | ok cool |
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| 16:53.28 | AckisWork | Stanzilla: thought you wanted to focus on spirit still? |
| 16:55.08 | Lunessa | Spirit is good, but you still need Int for Mana and you still need crit and haste. |
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| 16:55.15 | Stanzilla | AckisWork: nope, it's not that good anymore, keeping int/spi at nearly the same levels is the best way imo |
| 16:55.25 | AckisWork | i've never been a fan of haste |
| 16:55.28 | Stanzilla | ~1200 each is awesome |
| 16:55.28 | purl | Stanzilla: okay |
| 16:55.33 | Stanzilla | damn :P |
| 16:55.35 | Lopeppeppy | Haste has uses. |
| 16:55.39 | AckisWork | ~1200 |
| 16:55.49 | Stanzilla | haste is need for ulduar encounters where you need to push insane HpS |
| 16:55.51 | Stanzilla | *ed |
| 16:55.54 | sylvanaar | how can you not like haste |
| 16:56.11 | sylvanaar | it translates directly into hps/dps |
| 16:56.34 | nevcairiel | i like haste, he is a nice guy |
| 16:56.36 | AckisWork | I've always worked around it... remember I haven't done much raiding since they nerfed down-ranking |
| 16:56.59 | haste | so much bypassing my filter D: |
| 16:57.05 | End | hi haste |
| 16:57.09 | haste | haroo |
| 16:57.13 | End | :P |
| 16:57.21 | sylvanaar | hi haste, are you capped yet? |
| 16:57.37 | haste | almost 10% on my priest! |
| 16:58.15 | Lunessa | AckisWork: I've been playing my priest lately, and let me tell you... Mana Regen (Spirit, MP5) and Spell haste are critical if you don't want to be scrapping up your party members at the end. :( |
| 16:58.54 | AckisWork | i've always known mana regen is important, just trying to find that balance right now because they made crit important for holy priests as well |
| 16:59.13 | sylvanaar | haste also lets you overwrite other healers hots, or land effective heals and make other healers overheal |
| 16:59.42 | AckisWork | renew stacks with other healers |
| 17:00.03 | sylvanaar | not when you flash them to full |
| 17:00.22 | sylvanaar | i guess it still stacks |
| 17:00.29 | Llamabark | also depends a little if you are going holy or disc |
| 17:00.34 | sylvanaar | but it tics faster |
| 17:01.12 | sylvanaar | doesnt it? |
| 17:01.49 | Llamabark | pretty sure renew stacks regardless |
| 17:01.57 | Lopeppeppy | Tell me about scraping up party members. Paladins are one trick ponies, it gets old fast. |
| 17:02.03 | nevcairiel | hots don't tic faster with haste |
| 17:02.09 | nevcairiel | that would be mighty awesome, though |
| 17:02.15 | sylvanaar | meh, i should know that |
| 17:02.24 | sylvanaar | its channeled tics that are faster |
| 17:02.46 | Llamabark | like penance |
| 17:02.51 | sylvanaar | and tranquility |
| 17:03.18 | sylvanaar | they need to f-ing fix tranquility already |
| 17:04.21 | sylvanaar | since they gave it to priests without the group limit |
| 17:05.10 | sylvanaar | do you have 4pc t8 yet nev |
| 17:05.14 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 17:05.17 | nevcairiel | got it monday |
| 17:05.20 | nevcairiel | its teh awesome |
| 17:05.23 | sylvanaar | yeah it is |
| 17:05.37 | sylvanaar | still not as good as priests |
| 17:06.01 | AckisWork | bleh how long does it take armory to update your talents? |
| 17:06.04 | sylvanaar | empowered renew, bleh |
| 17:06.18 | nevcairiel | not like priests use it extensively |
| 17:06.25 | sylvanaar | they do now |
| 17:06.30 | nevcairiel | not like druids throw hots around, lol |
| 17:06.45 | sylvanaar | no really they do - and pom |
| 17:06.58 | sylvanaar | its like 60% of their heals |
| 17:07.16 | nevcairiel | hm, i'm still usually only outhealed by a shaman |
| 17:07.17 | nevcairiel | if even |
| 17:07.20 | nevcairiel | so i'm fine =P |
| 17:07.29 | nevcairiel | (for how much meters are worth, anyway) |
| 17:07.47 | sylvanaar | your priests just havent figured out how to overwrite your hots yet |
| 17:08.18 | sylvanaar | what are you glyphing |
| 17:08.28 | nevcairiel | nourish, lb, swiftmend |
| 17:08.48 | sylvanaar | i got brez, smend, and regrowth |
| 17:09.12 | sylvanaar | brez is too nice now that i have it |
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| 17:10.02 | nevcairiel | i changed regrowth for nourish with 3.1 |
| 17:10.03 | sylvanaar | i wanted to know if the rejuv glyph applies before t8 |
| 17:10.21 | nevcairiel | when i spam something on a tank its usually nourish now |
| 17:10.27 | nevcairiel | although i lost my t7 bonus now |
| 17:10.30 | nevcairiel | ponders |
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| 17:10.45 | mikma | ponderiel! |
| 17:11.39 | Fisker- | account merges |
| 17:12.32 | durcyn | but you can't, Fisker- |
| 17:12.36 | sylvanaar | yeah, i rej, reg, nourish, and lb when i proc ooc |
| 17:12.51 | nevcairiel | ooc lb is such a cheat to gain mana =P |
| 17:12.59 | Fisker- | oh but i can durcyn ! |
| 17:13.04 | nevcairiel | wonder if it works on vezax |
| 17:13.04 | sylvanaar | and the mana meta |
| 17:13.08 | sylvanaar | it does |
| 17:13.09 | sylvanaar | but |
| 17:13.20 | sylvanaar | its pointless |
| 17:13.36 | durcyn | sylvanaar: not on hard mode |
| 17:13.44 | nevcairiel | well when we do hard-mode and i'm healing first part |
| 17:13.51 | nevcairiel | i'm oom at about 40% |
| 17:13.56 | sylvanaar | you can melee for the proc |
| 17:14.00 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 17:14.01 | sylvanaar | and then lb |
| 17:14.04 | sylvanaar | that works |
| 17:14.11 | nevcairiel | so i can thro lb and gain mana through it |
| 17:14.12 | nevcairiel | awesome =) |
| 17:14.15 | sylvanaar | yes |
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| 17:15.13 | sylvanaar | i want that f-ing trinket |
| 17:15.24 | nevcairiel | which one? |
| 17:15.30 | nevcairiel | i want the one from kologarn |
| 17:15.32 | sylvanaar | -43 mana per cast |
| 17:15.33 | nevcairiel | with -mana cost |
| 17:15.37 | nevcairiel | that one =) |
| 17:16.00 | Lopeppeppy | hates Dreamweaver with a grand passion |
| 17:16.21 | nevcairiel | dreamweaver is evil |
| 17:16.24 | nevcairiel | i used to like it |
| 17:16.26 | Osstia | dcc's Lopeppeppy a tissue |
| 17:16.26 | nevcairiel | back in the days |
| 17:16.28 | nevcairiel | but shrug |
| 17:16.43 | sylvanaar | do you use the rejuv idol all the time - or do you use the nourish idol |
| 17:17.07 | nevcairiel | since the set bonus rejuv |
| 17:17.08 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:17.37 | sylvanaar | i was just wondering if there was any reason to ever not use it |
| 17:17.49 | nevcairiel | maybe when you're on heavy tank duty |
| 17:17.52 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 17:18.11 | Lopeppeppy | I'm using someone else's farked up templates as a kludge, and I haaaaate it. :) |
| 17:20.50 | jnwhiteh | so |
| 17:20.52 | jnwhiteh | if i did dailies today |
| 17:20.53 | jnwhiteh | and i migrate |
| 17:20.57 | jnwhiteh | can i do dailies again? :P |
| 17:21.15 | AckisWork | jnwhiteh: no |
| 17:21.17 | End | you should find out! |
| 17:21.23 | End | AckisWork: sssssssh |
| 17:21.24 | jnwhiteh | boo |
| 17:22.16 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel you have an armory link? http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Boulderfist&cn=Sylvaann&gn=Temporary |
| 17:22.50 | nevcairiel | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Antonidas&n=Nevcairiel |
| 17:23.23 | sylvanaar | im not sure what the hell gear i logged out in |
| 17:23.56 | nevcairiel | i'm wearing my alchemists stone for whatever reason |
| 17:23.57 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 17:24.13 | AckisWork | jnwhiteh: I had just tried it, it didn't even work with the cooking/fishing daily quest btw |
| 17:24.48 | jnwhiteh | hrm ok |
| 17:25.21 | ZorbaTHut | you guys and your tier gear. I wish I had new tier gear. :( |
| 17:25.41 | End | I have one piece :( |
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| 17:25.55 | |pez| | has like.. two epics, and that is it. |
| 17:26.12 | ZorbaTHut | our guild has gotten one kill of hodir so far |
| 17:26.22 | ZorbaTHut | (hopefully a second one in about seven hours :P) |
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| 17:26.38 | |pez| | I haven't even been in Naxx! XD |
| 17:27.46 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel our toons are pretty similar |
| 17:27.49 | Osstia | Grats on Yogg nevcairiel, thats the same date we got our kill |
| 17:28.06 | sylvanaar | we still havent on 25, and i wasnt int the 10 last week |
| 17:30.44 | airtonix | -_- : # The Molten Colossus near Ignis the Furnace Master will no longer cast Unquenchable Flames. |
| 17:31.12 | End | Unquenchable flames was fun! :( |
| 17:31.19 | End | Especially when you had just rezzed someone\ |
| 17:31.23 | airtonix | i know |
| 17:31.25 | foxlit|mac | wonders when Io will be released. |
| 17:31.26 | End | and they immediately got it |
| 17:31.28 | durcyn | not very unquenchable when you can remove it by taking a teleporter |
| 17:31.48 | NeoTron | End: it was a pointless time sink |
| 17:32.00 | airtonix | patch 10.4.2 : all raid bosses will now fall over dead upon entering the instance and a game of guess the number will produce the loot |
| 17:32.06 | End | NeoTron: welcome to trash? |
| 17:32.29 | NeoTron | End: what durcyn said. you just grouped by the teleporter and jumped when you got it and it was quenched |
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| 17:33.17 | End | I didn't know you could remove it that way, but it made the trash a lot less boring. |
| 17:33.29 | airtonix | blizzard : ahh fek, players are trivialising our content again, but we cbf programming the stuff properly, so we'll just delete it |
| 17:33.40 | End | Now the only thing left keeping it interesting is the ret paladin that keeps getting himself killed to the superheated cyclone crap |
| 17:33.53 | airtonix | lulz |
| 17:34.02 | NeoTron | End: it didn't though. you just waited to teleport it away since it was so annoying to deal with |
| 17:34.05 | airtonix | those guys are my bubble friends |
| 17:34.07 | NeoTron | it wasn't fun, just annoying |
| 17:34.18 | durcyn | deconstructor trash is still kind of fun too, get to watch melee pull aggro on compactobots and get stomped |
| 17:34.20 | End | I didn't |
| 17:34.25 | foxlit|mac | is disappointed. It's actually called Galileo. |
| 17:34.30 | NeoTron | durcyn: we just aoe'd it down last night |
| 17:34.35 | NeoTron | like naxx level trash |
| 17:34.46 | durcyn | NeoTron: we still had a cat druid pull aggro on the compacter doing that though |
| 17:34.46 | NeoTron | I wondered if they nerfed it so much or it was just never hard to begin with |
| 17:34.47 | airtonix | faceroll mode enaged, begin slobbering |
| 17:35.04 | durcyn | NeoTron: half of the mechagnomes were removed |
| 17:35.12 | NeoTron | ah that must be it |
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| 17:36.09 | airtonix | The hit point increasing hard mode ability for XT-002 Deconstructor has been reduced to 50% in the 10 player Normal setting, and 60% in the 25 player Heroic setting. The corresponding damage increase for XT-002 has also been reduced to 15%. Life Sparks also have half of their previous hit point values. |
| 17:36.12 | Taroven | Strange... not sure what I'd done, but my local beta of eventhorizon got tagged as incompatible. Then untagged when I forced a svn update. To the same code. x.x |
| 17:36.14 | airtonix | lolwut? |
| 17:36.23 | durcyn | airtonix: yeah, now it's actually killable |
| 17:36.32 | airtonix | lol? |
| 17:36.33 | NeoTron | which makes it so much more fun |
| 17:36.41 | airtonix | it was killable before |
| 17:36.54 | durcyn | not on 25 |
| 17:36.54 | airtonix | lolololololol |
| 17:36.54 | NeoTron | no it wasn't |
| 17:36.54 | airtonix | yes it was |
| 17:36.57 | NeoTron | explain then the lack of kills |
| 17:37.03 | NeoTron | think it's for lack of trying? |
| 17:37.06 | sylvanaar | we did hard mode last night |
| 17:37.13 | airtonix | my guild did it last week, and we arent even a skilled guild |
| 17:37.21 | durcyn | ... on hard mode, no, you did not |
| 17:37.23 | End | in 25man? |
| 17:37.26 | durcyn | seeing as the world first kill was last night |
| 17:37.28 | sylvanaar | 10 |
| 17:37.46 | sylvanaar | XT-002 10 man hard mode last night |
| 17:37.51 | airtonix | ohright, hard. sorry |
| 17:38.52 | nevcairiel | read before laughing =P |
| 17:39.05 | airtonix | i still laugh |
| 17:39.29 | airtonix | naxxramas has made people soft |
| 17:39.44 | airtonix | qq, the boss wont fall over from my good looks, nerf all raid bosses |
| 17:39.54 | NeoTron | airtonix: there have been a few cases where kills just weren't mathematically plausible even with full upgrades |
| 17:40.02 | NeoTron | Hodir and XT were two of those. C'thun was another |
| 17:40.12 | End | oh, C'Thun |
| 17:40.30 | NeoTron | difference is they don't wait 3 months to fix it :P |
| 17:40.39 | airtonix | breastplate burning time! |
| 17:40.43 | End | not anymore! :P |
| 17:41.12 | sylvanaar | yeah, now XT was easy. we 3 shotted it. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Boulderfist&cn=Sylvaann&gn=Temporary |
| 17:41.20 | [Ammo] | at hard? |
| 17:41.23 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 17:41.24 | NeoTron | I hope to do some hard modes 10 man this week |
| 17:41.35 | [Ammo] | guess they really swung the bat :) |
| 17:41.40 | sylvanaar | guess so |
| 17:41.48 | NeoTron | but first, yogg-25 needs to die |
| 17:41.49 | airtonix | so instead of feeling like we accomplished killing a difficult boss, all we feel now is that we were tourists in a significantly fresh area and got to go home bearing shinies |
| 17:42.09 | [Ammo] | airtonix, go do hardmodes :p |
| 17:42.12 | sylvanaar | we had 3 healers so - yeah they did |
| 17:42.14 | NeoTron | as opposed to Naxx, 10 man ulduar is actually a lot easier than 25 man |
| 17:42.18 | [Ammo] | then come back saying you had it easy :) |
| 17:42.24 | Vonhinten | Only if you're in that minority of guilds that can do that stuff.. |
| 17:42.25 | durcyn | eh, ulduar 25 hard mode progression is still sufficiently difficult |
| 17:42.32 | durcyn | hodir and thorim notwithstanding |
| 17:42.33 | Vonhinten | my guild doesn't have the DPS to ACTIVATE XT hard mode |
| 17:42.48 | airtonix | what Vonhinten said |
| 17:42.52 | End | Vonhinten: they've nerfed his heart at least once |
| 17:43.05 | airtonix | because its so easy to do normal, many guilds will just take the easy way out |
| 17:43.19 | jnwhiteh | Is there a new "Star's Tears" |
| 17:43.20 | [Ammo] | that's where they have the algalon bait hanging |
| 17:43.25 | jnwhiteh | or arena-able water? |
| 17:43.26 | sylvanaar | we have had alot of core guild members leave - we are stuck at mimi on 25. we have killed yogg on 10, but i wasnt there |
| 17:43.44 | End | jnwhiteh: I think so |
| 17:43.44 | NeoTron | airtonix: which is fine |
| 17:43.55 | End | check the same vendor |
| 17:43.55 | NeoTron | airtonix: it's not BAD that they are able to progress, really. it's not |
| 17:44.00 | NeoTron | people that want it harder can get it harder |
| 17:44.13 | NeoTron | sylvanaar: yogg on 10 is a joke |
| 17:44.14 | [Ammo] | we're getting Yogg 25 stable now after 3 cancelled raids due to people being asshats |
| 17:44.20 | NeoTron | it's easier than general and, I'd say, mimi |
| 17:44.30 | airtonix | NeoTron, not unless they all overpopulate the few guilds on each server that are doing the hard modes all the time |
| 17:44.40 | NeoTron | for the first phase 1 yogg@10 I decided to try to find my /kiss sara macro |
| 17:44.43 | NeoTron | I didn't even have to dps |
| 17:44.55 | End | I'm not looking forward to mimi on 25man....otoh, I guess we'll be able to tell which people fail really easily |
| 17:44.57 | sylvanaar | i emoed out during general |
| 17:45.02 | sylvanaar | in 10 man |
| 17:45.10 | NeoTron | and with like 2-3 dpsers on the brain we got it down to 75% on our first try (despite massive fail) |
| 17:45.22 | NeoTron | I think yogg to had 3 wipes for us |
| 17:45.25 | ZorbaTHut | yay hardmode xt-002 killable. now maybe someday I'll get my Sorthalis |
| 17:45.39 | NeoTron | we had at least 3-4 times that on general and probably quite a bit more than general on mimiron |
| 17:46.16 | [Ammo] | I love mimiron 25 |
| 17:46.20 | [Ammo] | awesome fight |
| 17:46.29 | sylvanaar | we wiped for 2 days on mimi, and 3 on general 10 man. |
| 17:46.31 | durcyn | try it with doomfire yet? :) |
| 17:46.44 | [Ammo] | general blows balls if you get all the saronite down on the wrong side |
| 17:46.53 | [Ammo] | I spent our last kill picking my nose most of the time |
| 17:47.03 | [Ammo] | due to people unwilling to strange strat :p |
| 17:47.04 | sylvanaar | our dps wasnt even popping it |
| 17:47.16 | sylvanaar | or theyd pop it and stand in it |
| 17:47.55 | sylvanaar | my head nearly exploded |
| 17:49.19 | [Ammo] | we have one warlock handling it on erequest of healers on vent |
| 17:49.34 | sylvanaar | or the other 2 healers would come stand in it with me, we had 2 other ranged |
| 17:49.39 | [Ammo] | I think we should be able to get close to starting th ehardmode |
| 17:49.54 | Vonhinten | My raid has so many melee, we've run into a brick wall with Hodir, Thorim, and we'll definitely have a problem with Mimiron |
| 17:50.17 | durcyn | mimiron's surprisingly melee-friendly |
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| 17:50.26 | sylvanaar | 3 ranged in one spot, guess where the shadow crash goes |
| 17:50.31 | durcyn | except for p4, but you can cheese that with baby spice ;) |
| 17:50.43 | sylvanaar | really? |
| 17:50.44 | Vonhinten | Whoa, wait... what? |
| 17:51.03 | Vonhinten | phase 4 is what I was refering to, what can you do with baby spice? |
| 17:51.07 | sylvanaar | baby spice shrinks the hitbox, lol can you attack the head |
| 17:51.11 | durcyn | it brings the ACU into range of melee cleaves |
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| 17:51.18 | sylvanaar | ROFL |
| 17:51.48 | Vonhinten | you apply baby spice to the ACU or the other pieces? |
| 17:52.45 | Vonhinten | Well, in any case, with 7 deathknights, the melee won't even be able to see the rocket rune underneith the stupid DK ground effects |
| 17:52.54 | Vonhinten | That's the biggest problem |
| 17:54.53 | Vonhinten | We can't really fix the problem either... all of our best players have the ranged DPS alts that can do 80-90% of effectiveness of our mains, but that's a net loss, and isn't solving our lack of DPS issue |
| 17:55.36 | NeoTron | Vonhinten: have them spec frost or blood :P |
| 17:55.39 | NeoTron | it's worth it. heh |
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| 17:57.53 | AckisWork | Fisker-: http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/funny-pictures-this-cat-has-two-minds.jpg |
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| 17:59.00 | p3lim | Anyone know a good IM client that supports MSN accounts? |
| 17:59.12 | durcyn | p3lim: platform? |
| 17:59.15 | p3lim | Ive had enough of Live Messenger |
| 17:59.19 | p3lim | win |
| 17:59.25 | durcyn | i like miranda on windows |
| 17:59.28 | Vonhinten | trilian ? |
| 17:59.44 | p3lim | Id like something that is not that feature filled |
| 18:00.00 | durcyn | www.miranda-im.org |
| 18:00.13 | p3lim | Like, just to chat. No smilies, no emotes whatever, just a list of people, a chat window and a status window (quick comments like with Twitter) |
| 18:00.27 | Vonhinten | write one yourself :) |
| 18:00.36 | |pez| | p3lim: You should convert to googletalk, and make your friends convert too |
| 18:00.39 | p3lim | Like I am able to :p |
| 18:00.55 | durcyn | you're still talking instead of trying miranda =P |
| 18:01.06 | p3lim | That was to both Vonhinten and |pez| |
| 18:01.27 | p3lim | Ill try it durcyn |
| 18:01.28 | Vonhinten | what's wrong with live messenger? I haven't had a problem |
| 18:01.57 | p3lim | I have a shit computer |
| 18:02.04 | p3lim | and theyve added so much crap I dont care for |
| 18:02.48 | p3lim | Im just looking for a lightweighter, not a bloody web reader built into it, with gazillions of games, custom smilies for every single letter in the english alphabets (yes, I know people that has this) |
| 18:02.59 | p3lim | etc |
| 18:03.03 | NeoTron | Pidgin |
| 18:03.14 | durcyn | gtk+ on windows sucks balls |
| 18:03.20 | NeoTron | not really |
| 18:03.39 | NeoTron | if it did, it'd be the only UI used on Windows amongst men |
| 18:03.56 | p3lim | durcyn: while installing miranda, what is 'Import Plugin' ? |
| 18:04.09 | durcyn | metaphorical balls, NeoTron, metaphorical balls. |
| 18:05.11 | durcyn | p3lim: something about pulling settings from other clients iirc, i usually skip it |
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| 18:06.39 | Thunder_Child | pidgin works on windows perfectly |
| 18:06.56 | Thunder_Child | i have used it on xp, vista, and now win 7 |
| 18:07.51 | Thunder_Child | no issues |
| 18:07.51 | foxlit|mac | ls -lR ./ | grep "May[ \t]*20[ \t]*2009" << now, why would that take an eternity? |
| 18:07.52 | p3lim | Miranda looks good |
| 18:07.52 | foxlit|mac | while ordinary ls is fast |
| 18:08.15 | zenzelezz | foxlit|mac: the ls is probably still fast |
| 18:08.44 | Taroven | <- is using Pidgin on W7 right now. =P |
| 18:10.29 | Lopeppeppy | <- Trillian!! |
| 18:11.43 | Taroven | Used to use Trillian... got tired of it mucking up my idle/available state and missing contacts. =\ |
| 18:11.54 | Taroven | Loved it otherwise. |
| 18:12.20 | tekkub | Trillian, way WAY back was wonderful |
| 18:12.23 | mikma | <- Pidgin on Nokia N810 |
| 18:12.29 | tekkub | then it started to feature-creep |
| 18:12.35 | tekkub | and the creep never stopped |
| 18:12.48 | tekkub | Astra's been in alpha/beta for how many years now? |
| 18:13.21 | Taroven | A LONG time. |
| 18:13.47 | durcyn | trillian astra beta status may even predate DNF, come to think of it |
| 18:14.34 | Taroven | I might use Digsby if it didn't completely screw over my mouse in WoW and bog down my (rather decent) system. |
| 18:14.59 | kneeki | Taroven, I have that same issue, and Digsby will do that as well |
| 18:15.34 | kneeki | You have to change a few options to not make your PC explode when you recieve a new msg. And if you do so, you wont know you got a message until you either tab, or close wow |
| 18:16.09 | tekkub | bitlbee |
| 18:16.12 | tekkub | that is all |
| 18:16.13 | tekkub | ^^ |
| 18:16.15 | Taroven | *shrug* Happy enough with Pidgin, though I would kill for IRC name pings |
| 18:17.40 | Taroven | mucks around with NickSaid settings a bit |
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| 18:20.08 | Fisker- | hey |
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| 18:22.52 | pompy | Taroven: test |
| 18:23.18 | Taroven | One more time. |
| 18:23.30 | pompy | taroven: testing testing |
| 18:24.10 | Taroven | Eh, didn't work, but I just figured out what NickSaid really does, so it's all good. =P |
| 18:24.35 | End | tekkub: hey, bitlbee looks interesting :o |
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| 18:25.42 | tekkub | ^^ |
| 18:25.57 | tekkub | I wish it wasn't c++, I'd write some modules for it |
| 18:26.07 | tekkub | like crappy campfire, and bear411 |
| 18:26.18 | Fisker- | gentlemen |
| 18:26.51 | durcyn | Fisker- how's your battle.net account |
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| 18:34.41 | Taroven | grumbles something about ice cream nazis and heads off to work. |
| 18:35.18 | stolenlegacy | laughs at Taroven. |
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| 18:41.07 | AbsolutRayne | Yawn |
| 18:41.45 | Lopeppeppy | yawns too. Yay for yawnage. |
| 18:42.10 | stolenlegacy | thinks it's longer and brighter than your average yawn. |
| 18:42.54 | Lopeppeppy | Dinos are like that, we has teefs. |
| 18:43.07 | AbsolutRayne | chompchomp |
| 18:44.10 | AbsolutRayne | Im starting to love my little lowbie priest |
| 18:44.18 | Lopeppeppy | I like my 60's priestess. |
| 18:44.29 | Lopeppeppy | She was more specialer before they nerfed racials. Now I wish she were a draeni. |
| 18:44.37 | End | chompasaurus |
| 18:45.18 | Grum | wonderfull |
| 18:45.29 | Grum | the only thing i can see atm is 'unknowns' and i keep disconnecting >< |
| 18:45.59 | Lopeppeppy | Network kinda issue there, Grum... reset your router, try again? |
| 18:46.06 | kd3 | your cache got emptied. just keep relogging, you'll get in eventually |
| 18:46.06 | Grum | did |
| 18:46.20 | Lopeppeppy | Log into somewhere quiet first, one of your lowbie toons? |
| 18:46.22 | Grum | kd3: that i expected but after 20 relogs it gets rather MEH |
| 18:46.27 | Grum | no effect |
| 18:46.39 | AbsolutRayne | Up until a few levels ago, I was having the worst time leveling her |
| 18:46.44 | AbsolutRayne | Now it just seems so easy O_o |
| 18:46.50 | Lopeppeppy | Shadow? |
| 18:47.00 | Grum | is there a way to see how many items you have in your local cache? |
| 18:47.02 | Lopeppeppy | I leveled mine all holy except for the talent that returns mana on a kill. |
| 18:47.24 | AbsolutRayne | Disc |
| 18:47.52 | AbsolutRayne | I have 50 SP at level 16 :P |
| 18:47.54 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: You're just kind of hooked on draenei for your new toons, aren't you? |
| 18:48.13 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, I'm hooked on healing. Draeni get one extra heal in their arsenal, why would I not like them? |
| 18:48.39 | kd3 | meh, our MT loves using GotN on healers who aren't paying attention |
| 18:48.39 | p3lim | durcyn: is there plug-ins for Miranda? |
| 18:48.49 | durcyn | p3lim: yeah, should be some links on their site |
| 18:49.04 | p3lim | durcyn: id like to see comments behind people's nicks |
| 18:49.16 | Lopeppeppy | GotN isn't a super uber heal, but it's an extra weapon to use. I like weapons. |
| 18:49.23 | Lopeppeppy | Paladins don't have weapons, we have... grass. |
| 18:49.27 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, grass and daisies. |
| 18:49.56 | AbsolutRayne | Its boring leveling though... |
| 18:50.05 | AbsolutRayne | MB, SW:P....SMITESMITESMITESMITESMITE |
| 18:51.14 | AbsolutRayne | Carp, gonna die |
| 18:51.34 | Llamabark | part of the trick is wanding the mob down for the last part |
| 18:52.15 | Llamabark | assuming you have spirit tap |
| 18:52.52 | AbsolutRayne | No i dont, because im silly |
| 18:53.07 | Llamabark | levelling without spirit tap is rather painful |
| 18:53.36 | Grum | ah: /run z=0;for i=1, 50000 do x= GetItemInfo(i); if x then z = z+1 end end; print(z) |
| 18:53.46 | AbsolutRayne | Im not having much trouble, only when I get 3+on me do I basically die |
| 18:53.51 | AbsolutRayne | Hierlooms help alot |
| 18:54.23 | Lopeppeppy | Spirit tap is awesome helpful. And yes, I wand the last part of their lives away |
| 18:54.31 | Llamabark | sure, but spirit tap helps with the regen part of that, the part that comes after the nuking |
| 18:56.55 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Come run me through VC :D |
| 18:56.58 | AbsolutRayne | like |
| 18:57.00 | AbsolutRayne | 5 times |
| 18:57.01 | AbsolutRayne | <_< |
| 18:57.13 | Lopeppeppy | Love to, kinda busy at work right now though. |
| 18:57.22 | AbsolutRayne | :( |
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| 19:01.25 | Grum | lol |
| 19:01.32 | Grum | trying to sneak into SW slowly filling my cache >< |
| 19:01.58 | Tem | Jesus christ |
| 19:02.03 | Tem | Mimiron hard mode is intense |
| 19:02.30 | Tem | They weren't fucking kidding when they said "hard mode" |
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| 19:03.44 | Roofel | Hmm, anyone here who knows off or can help me create an addon that can launch the logging off the Chatlog on startup? Tried several different ways but cant get it working.... |
| 19:03.51 | Lopeppeppy | Hard mode is hard. :) |
| 19:04.04 | Lopeppeppy | My college turns off the computers at 3:30 today, so I'm signing off early. TTFN! |
| 19:04.06 | *** part/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@141.222.29.18) |
| 19:05.24 | AbsolutRayne | I love these people that start 3 hour Naxx clears, and the toon theyre on is in Blues |
| 19:05.28 | AbsolutRayne | Just makes me lol |
| 19:06.26 | ZorbaTHut | absolut, especially when it's "3 hour naxx clear, must be geared, will check armory" |
| 19:06.30 | ZorbaTHut | and they're in blues :P |
| 19:07.51 | AbsolutRayne | Yay, time to find the Defias Messenger |
| 19:13.28 | p3lim | so, ive been hacked, blizzard doesnt respond to mail and the phone numbers doesnt work |
| 19:14.07 | nevcairiel | haste did you hack p3lim? |
| 19:14.10 | nevcairiel | i know you want to.. |
| 19:14.14 | mikma | hilarity ensues |
| 19:14.56 | AbsolutRayne | YAY NEW ZEROPUNCTUATION |
| 19:16.12 | haste | nevcairiel: oh shi- |
| 19:16.14 | *** part/#wowuidev haste (i=haste@hirano.ixo.no) |
| 19:16.16 | AckisWork | so anyone get the UI policy enforced on them yet? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16137620868&sid=1 |
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| 19:16.37 | haste | D: |
| 19:16.40 | mikma | haste: hai haxxor! |
| 19:16.44 | haste | lies~ |
| 19:16.48 | mikma | are p3lim's epics tasty? |
| 19:16.52 | End | oh, the sixty days ended? |
| 19:17.18 | haste | you obviously leave their main gaer on the char so they won't notice at first! |
| 19:17.58 | AckisWork | End: May 19 was the date |
| 19:18.46 | kd3 | I should write an addon that deliberately breaks as many of the rules as possible |
| 19:19.00 | End | so it was |
| 19:19.09 | durcyn | obfuscated payware with porno, kd3 |
| 19:19.31 | kd3 | that begs for donations in-game. yup |
| 19:19.33 | AckisWork | durcyn: he needs to charge for it too |
| 19:19.39 | durcyn | "payware" |
| 19:19.44 | durcyn | ~lart AckisWork |
| 19:19.44 | purl | tries to shut AckisWork up |
| 19:19.53 | End | and spams people asking them to install it too |
| 19:19.54 | AckisWork | :P |
| 19:20.08 | End | I dunno how you'll break #8 though |
| 19:20.14 | durcyn | should have it pick a random mouseover target and start spamming them offline |
| 19:21.53 | AckisWork | gah http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17223065616&sid=1 I don't need another luser :( |
| 19:23.03 | durcyn | AckisWork: just do what i do, disable comments and tickets and ignore forums |
| 19:23.32 | AckisWork | I was looking on the forums for a "useful macros" post and saw that |
| 19:25.55 | Fisker- | not complied yet AckisWork ? |
| 19:26.23 | AckisWork | compiled what Fiskerson? |
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| 19:27.06 | durcyn | Fisker- how's that battlenet account treating you |
| 19:27.49 | Fisker- | fine durcyn |
| 19:28.00 | Fisker- | AckisWork "complied |
| 19:28.07 | durcyn | this is wonderful news |
| 19:28.16 | AckisWork | Fisker-: I will never comply |
| 19:31.31 | Roofel | Hmm, anyone here know how to make an addon do a message and a function only once? I got 3 "checkers" in the script and the first one works perfectly, but then it keeps on repeating the same thing over and over |
| 19:32.19 | durcyn | Roofel: under what condition, is this an event handler or a hook or what |
| 19:32.33 | Roofel | Ill give you the script, just uploading to Pastebin |
| 19:33.07 | Roofel | http://pastebin.com/d68b7b678 |
| 19:33.35 | Roofel | Thinking off removing the "Loading Check" it was just there to see how far my coding came before it stopped :P |
| 19:33.45 | durcyn | ADDON_LOADED fires for every addon that loads |
| 19:33.52 | durcyn | either check the args or register for PLAYER_LOGIN instead |
| 19:34.27 | Roofel | Okey, as its only to have the chat logged when logging on as I always forget writing the commands or something :P |
| 19:34.41 | Roofel | But how come its repeated around 12 times before stopping? |
| 19:34.49 | durcyn | because 12 addons load after yours |
| 19:34.56 | durcyn | and fire the event |
| 19:34.56 | Roofel | Oh shite, thats true |
| 19:35.08 | Roofel | Forgot to make it check the name :P |
| 19:35.18 | durcyn | alternatively, you can unregister the even after the first call |
| 19:35.21 | durcyn | event* |
| 19:36.02 | Roofel | Also, I remember seeing it somewhere but how could I make it check the name again? |
| 19:36.13 | durcyn | !api ADDON_LOADED |
| 19:36.14 | lua_bot | ADDON_LOADED: Fires when an addon is loaded. Will fire once per addon loaded. It is safe to assume that the saved variables for an addon are available at this point. (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/ADDON_LOADED) |
| 19:36.28 | Roofel | Hmm, not bad of a bot, ill check it out :P |
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| 19:38.15 | Roofel | There we go |
| 19:38.22 | kneeki | if event == "ADDON_LOADED" and arg1 == "Addon Name" then do stuff end |
| 19:38.26 | Roofel | aye :P |
| 19:38.27 | Roofel | Wrote that |
| 19:38.32 | Roofel | and now it only does it once |
| 19:38.52 | Roofel | Thanks for the help durcyn ;) |
| 19:39.04 | durcyn | that's what they pay me for |
| 19:39.09 | Roofel | xD |
| 19:40.21 | Fisker- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7dg9g5hoTs <-lawl |
| 19:41.20 | p3lim | hm miranda's irc client looks good |
| 19:41.31 | Roofel | Lol Fisker- xD |
| 19:41.36 | p3lim | Ad-aware tagged my xChat client as a trojan |
| 19:41.40 | p3lim | :p |
| 19:42.06 | Bruners | l2irssi |
| 19:42.21 | mikma | lolz |
| 19:42.26 | mikma | this is still funny stuff |
| 19:42.36 | mikma | gets more funny when p3lim explains about it |
| 19:48.22 | kraft|afk | anyone know an mp3 player with a randomiser that s actually random? :( |
| 19:48.52 | NightHawkTheSan1 | all of them? random isn't exactly hard to do. |
| 19:49.12 | kraft|afk | i'm listening to the same stuff i heard a few hours ago on a play list thats a couple of days long |
| 19:49.21 | kraft|afk | :( |
| 19:49.27 | NightHawkTheSan1 | that doesn't mean it's not random |
| 19:50.23 | durcyn | random doesn't mean nonrepeating |
| 19:50.40 | kraft|afk | well the same songs are occuring a long more often than others |
| 19:50.45 | kraft|afk | lot* |
| 19:50.46 | Bruners | kraft|afk: true random means that the same song could come twice |
| 19:51.44 | kraft|afk | i just mean its happening more than randomness would generally allow |
| 19:51.56 | NightHawkTheSan1 | 'randomness' generally allows for anything. |
| 19:52.00 | kraft|afk | >< |
| 19:52.02 | kraft|afk | helpful |
| 19:52.32 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i think what you really want is not actually random, but some kind of almost-random shuffle feature, where it weights songs heavier the longer they've gone unplayed |
| 19:53.24 | kraft|afk | well no |
| 19:53.51 | kraft|afk | if you flipped a rolled a dice 50 times and it was a 6 48 times |
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| 19:54.15 | kraft|afk | that could be just pure fluke, but its more than likely that its wieghted |
| 19:54.32 | NightHawkTheSan1 | true randomness allows for that, though. it's a valid probable result. |
| 19:54.41 | NightHawkTheSan1 | not a likely one, but a valid one. |
| 19:54.48 | Bruners | kraft|afk: anypoo, foobar2000 is the winnar |
| 19:54.57 | kraft|afk | and if you said 'this dice is wieghted' and i said 'nah its just random LOL' i doubt you'd be amused |
| 19:55.13 | kraft|afk | weighted* |
| 19:55.45 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Actually, i would be, but i have a pretty dry sense of humor. :P |
| 19:56.27 | Thunder_Child | saharah at high noon in the summer? |
| 19:56.29 | NightHawkTheSan1 | That said, you coming here saying "wah wah, <such and such> isn't random because it seems like it plays the same songs more often" isn't a compelling argument. Perception plays into that as does actual randomness. |
| 19:56.35 | kraft|afk | ^^ |
| 19:56.51 | Thunder_Child | s/ah /a / |
| 19:56.54 | kraft|afk | well i didnt realise i needed statistical proof |
| 19:57.01 | NightHawkTheSan1 | its arguable that you're simply paying a bit more attention to the 'repeated' songs, than the non-repeated ones. |
| 19:57.48 | Thunder_Child | use itunes and watch the play count, there would be your statistical evidance |
| 19:57.52 | NightHawkTheSan1 | I just doubt that the random play function of any music player is really that broken. more likely, its just perception of a pattern |
| 19:57.55 | Thunder_Child | evidence* |
| 19:58.24 | kraft|afk | well on windows media player it used to sometimes play the same 'random' playlist |
| 19:58.30 | kraft|afk | in the same order |
| 19:59.24 | Kaelten | tekkub: is soap4r the best ruby soap framework |
| 20:00.20 | tekkub | no idea, I don't use soap (lawl) |
| 20:00.55 | mikma | ewwww, dirty bear |
| 20:01.15 | Syzgyn | Are US servers limited to enUS and esMX locales? |
| 20:01.31 | *** join/#wowuidev dardack (n=chatzill@72-255-44-134.client.stsn.net) |
| 20:01.43 | Syzgyn | and all the other locales are EU? |
| 20:02.02 | durcyn | you can use any client localization on any server |
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| 20:02.28 | Syzgyn | So what would be the easiest way to determine if a server is US or EU? |
| 20:02.47 | durcyn | there should be a cvar exposed for the logon server |
| 20:02.57 | zenzelezz | why would you have to differentiate them? |
| 20:03.01 | Syzgyn | Aha, I forgot about cvars |
| 20:03.19 | Syzgyn | To know which armory to use |
| 20:03.36 | Thunder_Child | tekkub, ping |
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| 20:04.35 | tekkub | Thunder_Child: wut |
| 20:04.45 | Thunder_Child | tekkub, is crossdresser supposed to work? |
| 20:05.06 | tekkub | gee no :P |
| 20:05.13 | Thunder_Child | good, because it doesnt |
| 20:05.26 | tekkub | smarter than the addon |
| 20:05.43 | Thunder_Child | huh? |
| 20:06.25 | tekkub | :P |
| 20:06.43 | tekkub | do you get no config or what? |
| 20:06.51 | Thunder_Child | among other things |
| 20:06.57 | zenzelezz | "Slackware has now gone 64-bit with an official x86_64 port being maintained in-sync with the regular x86 -current branch. DVDs will be available for purchase from the Slackware store when Slackware 13.0 is released" \o/ |
| 20:07.11 | tekkub | sounds like it's not loading then |
| 20:07.23 | Thunder_Child | the about even says "template for creating new addons" |
| 20:07.37 | Thunder_Child | tekkub, it shows up in addons, it simply has no options |
| 20:07.41 | Thunder_Child | but it does have an about |
| 20:08.08 | tekkub | oh I never fixed the toc metadata |
| 20:08.20 | tekkub | also you should grab the latest version :P |
| 20:09.09 | Osstia | zenzelezz, thats good news |
| 20:10.11 | Thunder_Child | "Hardcore archiving action"....really.... |
| 20:11.35 | Thunder_Child | nifty tekkub |
| 20:12.00 | mikma | hah |
| 20:12.14 | mikma | why do people always assume that its because of tekkub?! |
| 20:12.27 | Thunder_Child | guess |
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| 20:12.39 | tekkub | I have no idea |
| 20:12.46 | Thunder_Child | but i was talking about the addons |
| 20:12.53 | Thunder_Child | s/ns/n/ |
| 20:12.58 | Thunder_Child | not the msg |
| 20:13.34 | mikma | sure, sure... |
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| 20:22.24 | Vonhinten | Was the hunter boost in on Tuesday? |
| 20:30.44 | durcyn | yes |
| 20:34.30 | NightHawkTheSan1 | http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/05/20/call-4-entries |
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| 20:37.24 | Tenchworks | quick question, I can't seem too find it or the answer is in my face and I'm too blind/tired to see it... |
| 20:37.44 | Jamash | the answer is... pudding |
| 20:38.10 | Tenchworks | what is the command that has the game spit out all the frames/objects that are under the mouse, or is that only capable threw an addon? |
| 20:38.22 | Tenchworks | *spit out in the chat window |
| 20:38.41 | Jamash | iriel's devtools has a frame stack inspector |
| 20:40.20 | zenzelezz | yes, with DevTools you use /dtframestack IIRC |
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| 20:41.25 | Tenchworks | snagging it now thanks |
| 20:43.21 | ReAn | was Ace3 updated at all for 3.1.2 ? |
| 20:43.38 | durcyn | ReAn: there were no changes that affected it. |
| 20:43.54 | ReAn | k, just curious |
| 20:44.28 | durcyn | the only significant API changes were the minimap clusterfuck and equipment manager |
| 20:44.36 | ReAn | minimap clusterfuck? |
| 20:44.40 | durcyn | blips |
| 20:44.54 | kraft|afk | you mean changing the size back? :P |
| 20:46.34 | Pharaunmizz | How much data is too much to shove through SendAddonMessage? :D |
| 20:46.42 | nicoli_s | a gig |
| 20:46.53 | Pharaunmizz | shoot :P |
| 20:47.08 | kraft|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/ChatThrottleLib#ChatThrottleLib:SendAddonMessage |
| 20:47.16 | Thunder_Child | the legacy items should really say binds to account - per server |
| 20:47.37 | Pharaunmizz | :D thanks kraft |
| 20:47.41 | kraft|afk | np |
| 20:48.03 | nicoli_s | binds to acct items are per server only? thats week |
| 20:48.05 | nicoli_s | weak* |
| 20:48.09 | AbsolutRayne | |Jelly|: Stop me before I go off on this idiot really bad |
| 20:48.26 | NeoTron | nicoli_s: there just isn't any way to transfer items cross-server ... |
| 20:48.39 | durcyn | sure there is, buy them then transfer a character. |
| 20:48.39 | |Jelly| | eh? |
| 20:48.42 | NeoTron | although I'd much rather see cross-faction for BoA |
| 20:48.50 | NeoTron | durcyn: of course but that doesn't really "count" |
| 20:49.01 | durcyn | the item's on the new server, isnt' it? |
| 20:49.01 | AckisWork | why isn't yogg called C'thun v3? |
| 20:49.04 | durcyn | QED. |
| 20:49.23 | nicoli_s | i dunno what i was thinking, for some reason i thought the heirloom items would just be on all chars you create once you got them |
| 20:49.38 | NeoTron | nicoli_s: oh you're thinking buy once, use all over |
| 20:50.02 | NeoTron | it's buy once, use many times, one at a time |
| 20:52.09 | Jamash | you buy it, you got it |
| 20:52.53 | Thunder_Child | nicoli_s, ya it's not like the CE pets |
| 20:53.52 | Thunder_Child | tekkub, is it that hard to have the folder named just crossdresser? |
| 20:55.38 | tekkub | I have no control over how it packages |
| 20:55.42 | tekkub | use git :P |
| 20:55.52 | NightHawkTheSan1 | http://twitpic.com/5krms |
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| 20:56.41 | Thunder_Child | tekkub, works great, though it only has one button...is that correct? |
| 20:56.51 | End | well |
| 20:56.52 | End | that's fun |
| 20:56.57 | tekkub | huh? |
| 20:57.12 | End | I tried to call my dad to wish him a happy birthday, but his phone service is messed up or something |
| 20:57.26 | End | also, your mom |
| 20:57.32 | Thunder_Child | tekkub, i thought i read somewhere that you would have a button on the eqip manager and the talents pane |
| 20:57.40 | Thunder_Child | equip* |
| 20:58.35 | tekkub | yea |
| 20:58.56 | Thunder_Child | as far as i can tell there isnt one on the talent pane |
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| 20:59.21 | tekkub | might be LoD issue |
| 21:01.11 | Thunder_Child | uh, what would cause it to load though? |
| 21:03.37 | NightHawkTheSan1 | http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8641/sign2x.jpg |
| 21:08.30 | End | that's over 9000 |
| 21:08.40 | Vonhinten | indeed |
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| 21:15.08 | Thunder_Child | is rating buster having issues? |
| 21:15.54 | Thunder_Child | for example didnt the summary use to include enchants? |
| 21:16.04 | Thunder_Child | and sockets |
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| 21:20.48 | Roofel | Hmm, anyone here familiar with Outfitter's Coding? |
| 21:21.00 | Roofel | Need to know where the coding for the "Create new Set" is placed :< |
| 21:21.55 | Roofel | nvm |
| 21:21.57 | Roofel | found it :P |
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| 21:22.52 | Shadowed | agh |
| 21:22.57 | Shadowed | Ultramon doesn't work at all really on Windows 7 |
| 21:22.58 | Shadowed | SAD DAY |
| 21:25.27 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 21:25.47 | Thunder_Child | though i am very happy with win7's default setup |
| 21:26.07 | |pez| | I need to install the RC of Win7 |
| 21:26.25 | |pez| | but I can't be arsed to do backuping and formating the laptop. |
| 21:26.51 | Thunder_Child | |pez|, vista? |
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| 21:27.00 | kd3 | this is why you keep your personal stuff on a separate partition from the OS so it's not a big deal |
| 21:27.22 | Thunder_Child | kd3, it is for the reg |
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| 21:29.29 | |pez| | Thunder_Child: No, Win7 Beta. |
| 21:30.31 | Thunder_Child | |pez|, ah, dunno if it needs a format then |
| 21:31.09 | |pez| | Thunder_Child: it does. |
| 21:31.25 | |pez| | Had it been Vista or something else, it wouldn't have needed it. According to MS. |
| 21:31.57 | durcyn | there's a workaround out there for installing the RC over the beta, but MS doesn't want you do |
| 21:32.00 | durcyn | to* |
| 21:33.09 | |pez| | It doesn't reaaally matter, I should clean up this computer anyway. |
| 21:33.13 | |pez| | Formatting is therefore good. ;P |
| 21:33.40 | Tuller | see, I put my media on a separate partition |
| 21:33.54 | Tuller | well media + wow |
| 21:34.03 | |pez| | I'm gonna try that when I get to reinstalling this thing. |
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| 21:41.58 | NightHawkTheSan1 | http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/mary_roach_10_things_you_didn_t_know_about_orgasm.html |
| 21:42.11 | foxlit|mac | # The best in terms of pants! |
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| 21:50.55 | NightHawkTheSan1 | everyone needs to watch that video.. |
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| 22:04.06 | Kraps | http://www.pandora.com/pandora_one should i? |
| 22:04.34 | Lopeppeppy | Neat, Kraps! |
| 22:04.48 | nicoli_s | 36 dollars?!?! it should be free, like addons |
| 22:04.48 | Lopeppeppy | I'll send myself that at work, because I listen to Pandora all the time there. |
| 22:05.17 | Kirov | ooo |
| 22:05.26 | Kraps | nicoli_s: wat |
| 22:05.57 | nicoli_s | kraps: its simple logic, if any part of pandora is free, then people deserve to get it all for free all the time |
| 22:06.22 | Kraps | cant tell if you're kidding.... |
| 22:06.47 | durcyn | nicoli_s only has sarcastic bones in his body on thursdays and saturdays, Kraps |
| 22:07.12 | nicoli_s | and on the 3rd wed of every month |
| 22:07.23 | Lopeppeppy | And today. |
| 22:08.15 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.42 | Kraps | thought you were getting all SLAP IN THE FACE on me |
| 22:08.51 | nicoli_s | sorry, working for curse has turned me super bitter and sarcastic |
| 22:09.12 | AckisWork | nicoli_s: should I send my resume in then since I'm already that way? |
| 22:09.32 | nicoli_s | only if you include the 100 dollar processing fee |
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| 22:09.56 | AckisWork | pfft |
| 22:10.14 | nicoli_s | ok 50 |
| 22:10.19 | nicoli_s | and a candy bar |
| 22:11.43 | AckisWork | how about I let you touch me at night? |
| 22:12.06 | nicoli_s | my arms arent long enough and my mind isnt willing sorry |
| 22:12.17 | nicoli_s | i need at least part money/part candy payment |
| 22:12.39 | AckisWork | pfft |
| 22:13.23 | nicoli_s | even if its onlya quarter and a m un m |
| 22:17.28 | Kraps | nicoli_s: so what do you do for curse? |
| 22:17.53 | nicoli_s | i code the DB sites(wow/war/runesdb) |
| 22:18.31 | AckisWork | aka blame him for the crappiness of wowdb ;) |
| 22:18.54 | nicoli_s | actually wowdb is the site i had the least input/work on |
| 22:19.13 | nicoli_s | wowdb is like maybe 10% mine, whereas runesdb is 100% mine, wardb is probably around 50% |
| 22:19.33 | Kraps | wowhead > wowdb. the end |
| 22:19.35 | kd3 | could you yell at whoever put the "wowdb REQUIRES js" prompt up? |
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| 22:19.48 | nicoli_s | kd3, it does, why would i? |
| 22:19.54 | nicoli_s | kraps, no one is arguing that |
| 22:20.05 | kd3 | other sites work fine in degraded mode without js? |
| 22:20.21 | Kraps | nicoli_s: thought i saw that somewhere |
| 22:20.25 | nicoli_s | yes, but the entire site was designed around js |
| 22:20.54 | ZorbaTHut | anyone know what happens if multiple addons declare the same SavedVariables? |
| 22:20.54 | nicoli_s | it would literally require recoding a huge chunk of our framework just to make < a dozen people who have complained happy |
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| 22:21.13 | nicoli_s | and holy shit, we have nearly 3 million profiles on wowdb |
| 22:21.17 | kd3 | waves the SEO flag |
| 22:21.55 | nicoli_s | the site does need some more SEO optimization though |
| 22:22.13 | foxlit|mac | SEO must die(tm). |
| 22:22.19 | nicoli_s | and while we may not beat wowhead in terms of simple "goodness", we totally smoke them in terms of technology imho |
| 22:22.23 | a_nil_value | are there other statements you can put after equipped: in a macro? |
| 22:22.30 | a_nil_value | like [equipped:shields] |
| 22:22.39 | a_nil_value | or [equipped:2haxes] or something like that? |
| 22:23.55 | ZorbaTHut | nicoli, if only the site had good data :P |
| 22:24.32 | nicoli_s | ZorbaTHut, i agree 100%, we just dont have the manpower to monitor the data as close as we need to |
| 22:24.49 | NeoTron | nicoli_s: to be very honest, wowdb wins solely due to comments |
| 22:24.59 | nicoli_s | you meant wowhead right? |
| 22:25.02 | NeoTron | without the comments, which is pretty much where wowdb is, it's not even closely as useful |
| 22:25.05 | NeoTron | yes |
| 22:25.06 | NeoTron | sorry |
| 22:25.14 | NeoTron | it's not about technology to me, it's about user added content |
| 22:25.26 | nicoli_s | also agree there, its really hard to compete with a site with a huge community behind it |
| 22:25.38 | NeoTron | wowhead "won" over allakhazan and thottbot and the like solely by being a lot better from a technical standpoint and design standpoint |
| 22:25.43 | NeoTron | wowdb is basically just the same |
| 22:25.45 | jnwhiteh | how much is cold weather flying? |
| 22:25.51 | NeoTron | it didn't add any generational "omph" over wowhead |
| 22:25.57 | nicoli_s | 3d :P |
| 22:25.58 | pompy | jnwhiteh: 1k g |
| 22:26.01 | jnwhiteh | boo |
| 22:26.02 | jnwhiteh | thanks. |
| 22:26.16 | Kraps | thottbot sucks bawls (duh) |
| 22:26.27 | nicoli_s | i worked at thottbot too |
| 22:26.32 | Lopeppeppy | I actually find information more easily on Thotbott. |
| 22:27.02 | NeoTron | thottbot was all the bomb |
| 22:27.08 | nicoli_s | perl ftw |
| 22:27.09 | Kraps | i went there as a new player and never went back, except the laugh at the comments |
| 22:27.11 | NeoTron | it still seems to be the best site to see changes to spells between builds |
| 22:27.23 | NeoTron | which is somewhat ironic |
| 22:27.33 | nicoli_s | especially since thottbot used to get spell data from the lua :P |
| 22:27.37 | NeoTron | but remember, thottbot existed even before wow went retail |
| 22:27.38 | nicoli_s | before i worked there |
| 22:27.50 | jnwhiteh | from "the lua" |
| 22:27.52 | Lopeppeppy | I find the maps more reliable, when looking for quest tips and NPC's I can't find. |
| 22:27.54 | jnwhiteh | te hee |
| 22:28.00 | Kirov | The only thing missing from Pandora One is the ability to listen to specific songs. |
| 22:28.11 | Kirov | I wonder if it still has the limit on skips |
| 22:28.41 | ZorbaTHut | thottbot was awesome, back when thottbot was the only option |
| 22:29.11 | ZorbaTHut | namely, it was awesome only compared to the alternatives. |
| 22:29.19 | Kraps | Kirov: With the standard ad supported version of Pandora you're limited to 12 total skips per day. With Pandora One you'll be able to skip as many times per day as you'd like (note you will still be limited, thanks to licensing constraints, to six skips per hour per station). |
| 22:29.33 | Kraps | from the blog |
| 22:30.08 | Pharaunmizz | Last time I checked at least, couldn't you just "skip" a song by quick reloading pandora? |
| 22:30.21 | Lopeppeppy | Mostly yes. |
| 22:30.35 | Pharaunmizz | "quick" depending on your comp/browser speed :P |
| 22:30.49 | Kirov | heh |
| 22:32.30 | Kraps | funny http://thottbot.com/v4428779 |
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| 22:35.26 | Kraps | funnier http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=97659&p=1095534 |
| 22:36.01 | nicoli_s | if you think thats funny you should see some of the CC support tickets |
| 22:36.19 | nicoli_s | "why not Quest Helper Work?" is the majo=rity of them |
| 22:36.40 | ZorbaTHut | nicoli, you have no idea how sorry I feel for you |
| 22:36.40 | Tem | CC? |
| 22:37.00 | NightHawkTheSan1 | curse client, i assume? |
| 22:37.05 | Tem | oh |
| 22:37.42 | ZorbaTHut | nicoli, if there's something very common showing up, btw, feel free to link me a few reports. it's hard to tell what the common problems are. |
| 22:37.49 | ZorbaTHut | (although I imagine most of them are pebkac errors) |
| 22:38.00 | Kraps | that reminds me, i gotta get omniCC |
| 22:38.02 | nicoli_s | will do ZorbaTHut, though most of them are just general idiocy |
| 22:38.20 | ZorbaTHut | also if they're not using a 1.x version tell them to update. |
| 22:39.12 | Kirov | omniCC is one of those odd addons I usually think nothing of until I don't have it and remember it's not part of the default UI |
| 22:39.43 | Lopeppeppy | OmniCC kicks serious ass. Seriously. |
| 22:40.16 | Kraps | is redrange the only addon of its type? |
| 22:40.34 | Tuller | evil pings |
| 22:40.42 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sorry, Tuller, these are good ones though! |
| 22:41.02 | mikma | OmniCC, Combuctor, tuller |
| 22:41.08 | mikma | ping, ping, PING! |
| 22:41.30 | Tuller | it sounds like a car horn on this windows7 soundscheme |
| 22:41.40 | mikma | tuller: honk |
| 22:41.42 | Lopeppeppy | pings mikma on the head with a frying pan |
| 22:42.08 | Tuller | sonata it is |
| 22:42.16 | mikma | lopeppeppy: has the pan any bacon on it? |
| 22:42.18 | ZorbaTHut | I wonder how well my highlight-areas-on-the-minimap-where-the-target-could-be addon will work. I've always kinda wanted to do it |
| 22:42.27 | Lopeppeppy | mikma, NO! Hah! |
| 22:42.35 | mikma | lopeppeppy: the worst ping eva. |
| 22:43.30 | Lopeppeppy | Be nice to Tuller then, he makes good music with his pings. |
| 22:43.56 | mikma | tuller: honk |
| 22:44.02 | dardack | anyone know in OUF how to make the PvP letters show all the time when your pvp instead on mouseover? |
| 22:44.23 | mikma | dardack: we happen to have a oUF expert here, let's see... haste ping ping haste |
| 22:44.33 | dardack | yea haste is busy alot |
| 22:44.38 | mikma | lies |
| 22:44.38 | dardack | so i try not to bother him |
| 22:44.41 | mikma | haste: you suck. |
| 22:45.59 | Fisker- | this is my rage face |
| 22:46.40 | p3lim | dardack you want a pvp string tag or an icon? |
| 22:46.54 | dardack | it might be an icon hang on |
| 22:47.08 | Kraps | anyone here works on carbonite? |
| 22:47.09 | dardack | no i'm using text |
| 22:47.13 | p3lim | ok |
| 22:47.20 | dardack | also is there a way to show the timer? |
| 22:47.21 | p3lim | could you pastey me a copy of your layout? |
| 22:47.26 | p3lim | it can be done |
| 22:47.33 | mikma | haste: you failed, now p3lim is helping the poor dude |
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| 22:48.16 | p3lim | say if you have text it could say [PvP] if you are pvp enabled, [m:ss] if youre on cooldown and hide if youre not pvp enabled |
| 22:48.22 | p3lim | thats how I would have had it atleast |
| 22:48.25 | dardack | interesting |
| 22:48.35 | p3lim | i do play on a pve server, but im comfortable with having pvp on all the time |
| 22:48.52 | p3lim | (used to play on a pvp server before) |
| 22:49.01 | dardack | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/114611 |
| 22:49.09 | dardack | i hate pvp |
| 22:49.14 | dardack | but you know once in awhile |
| 22:49.34 | theorbtwo | One other thing -- it'd be useful to say [zone] if you've turned the PvP flag off, but it's not taking effect because you aren't in a zone of your faction. |
| 22:49.58 | p3lim | :) |
| 22:54.06 | batrick | fuckkkkk signals. I'm moving to condition variables. |
| 22:54.09 | batrick | ^ jnwhiteh |
| 22:54.14 | p3lim | give me a few minutes to tinker with this dardack |
| 22:54.22 | dardack | ok thanks |
| 22:54.33 | batrick | fuck pipes too |
| 22:54.52 | foxlit|mac | wonder why they made enabling the equipment manager an option |
| 22:55.12 | Zootfizzle | Some people might use Outfitter? |
| 22:55.22 | Zootfizzle | :P |
| 22:55.26 | Kirov | I'm still using Itemrack |
| 22:55.50 | Kirov | I like not having to actually switch to a gear set to make it. |
| 22:56.10 | Kirov | Odd, I know, but when ever I get a new gear peice I tend to swap around my other sets. |
| 22:56.15 | Zootfizzle | As with most things, we expect people will use the API to develop addons that work differently from the base functionality :) |
| 22:56.21 | foxlit|mac | But it's not like that setting does anything but show/hide a button :) |
| 22:56.38 | foxlit|mac | And, if anything, Outfitter can hide that button for you if it so pleases. |
| 22:56.57 | Zootfizzle | I would try and find the exact reason for you |
| 22:57.04 | Zootfizzle | But something tells me it isn't really important :) |
| 22:57.31 | foxlit|mac | Nothing prefixed with "wonder why" usually is. |
| 22:57.44 | Zootfizzle | highfives foxlit|mac |
| 22:58.25 | Zootfizzle | notes that's a five coming it at about 4'2" and hopes foxlit|mac is prepared to lowfive |
| 22:58.45 | Zootfizzle | s/it at/in at/ |
| 22:58.46 | foxlit|mac | converts to metric units. |
| 22:59.11 | Zootfizzle | 127 cm |
| 22:59.19 | Zootfizzle | No, wait |
| 22:59.20 | foxlit|mac | The power of google :) |
| 22:59.24 | Zootfizzle | 1270 |
| 22:59.28 | Zootfizzle | ? |
| 22:59.46 | foxlit|mac | 127 |
| 22:59.49 | haste | you can't be 1270cm D: |
| 22:59.49 | foxlit|mac | 1270 would be giant. |
| 22:59.54 | Zootfizzle | Please?! |
| 23:00.02 | haste | mikma: I would call it win as I dodged work! |
| 23:00.02 | Zootfizzle | What if I ate like a pumpkin? |
| 23:00.04 | NeoTron | Zootfizzle: question: Does the woweqmanager swap swappable items (i.e weapon) if used during combat? |
| 23:00.17 | Zootfizzle | Yes. |
| 23:00.25 | NeoTron | cool |
| 23:00.27 | Zootfizzle | Rather, the function UseEquipmentSet does. |
| 23:00.47 | NeoTron | I assume it doesn't have a queuing mechanism though? |
| 23:00.49 | Lopeppeppy | Pumpkins aren't for making tall, string beans are for making tall. |
| 23:01.05 | Zootfizzle | No, it displays an error instead. |
| 23:01.15 | Zootfizzle | Saying that some items could not be equipped because you were in combat. |
| 23:01.16 | NeoTron | ok fair enough |
| 23:01.21 | NeoTron | works for me |
| 23:01.27 | foxlit|mac | EquipmentManager_EquipSet("name") ? |
| 23:01.36 | foxlit|mac | It's because that error comes from FrameXML :) |
| 23:01.39 | NeoTron | Zootfizzle: it's disconcerting that swapping items has no audible feedback :P |
| 23:01.48 | foxlit|mac | Rather than being an actual error. |
| 23:01.49 | Zootfizzle | Thanks for the legible feedback :) |
| 23:02.18 | Zootfizzle | foxlit|mac: Forgive me, I'm not at work and have had a couple weeks off |
| 23:02.29 | NeoTron | Zootfizzle: good for you |
| 23:02.34 | Dashkal | mmm, vacation |
| 23:02.36 | Zootfizzle | We'll get it looked at for an upcoming patch, NeoTron |
| 23:02.51 | foxlit|mac | Nothing to blame you for, just clarifying it for Neo :) |
| 23:03.06 | Zootfizzle | Thanks =) |
| 23:03.20 | NeoTron | I don't really care about the error, just pondering what would be needed for queued swapping of sets |
| 23:03.33 | NeoTron | closetgnome should, probably doesn't now, have the queueing mechanism back |
| 23:03.40 | Zootfizzle | Take a look at the events that fire in conjunction with UseEquipmentSet |
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| 23:03.53 | Zootfizzle | I think you could probably set something up fairly easily |
| 23:04.05 | NeoTron | likely |
| 23:04.27 | Zootfizzle | We just chose not to go that route because we felt the queue mechanism was less in tune with the rest of the UI |
| 23:04.27 | NeoTron | I have honestly not spent time on it - last night was patch, and hop in raid, raid, enchant/set up new gear, go to sleep |
| 23:04.44 | NeoTron | It's a fine behavior for the default equipment manager |
| 23:04.57 | NeoTron | not arguing for it to be changed just clarifying what it does :) |
| 23:04.59 | foxlit|mac | Actually, I think the FrameXML function might block it from even attempting to equip things if it'll partially fail. |
| 23:05.10 | foxlit|mac | Need to find something I can get in combat with to test. |
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| 23:05.21 | foxlit|mac | (all depends on what "Locked" means in EquipmentSetContainsLockedItems) |
| 23:05.32 | Zootfizzle | Locked means locked |
| 23:05.34 | p3lim | dardack: ping, i pm'd you |
| 23:05.40 | Zootfizzle | As in from GetContainerItemInfo |
| 23:05.45 | Zootfizzle | And grayed out so you can't interact with it |
| 23:05.52 | Zootfizzle | Not related to combat |
| 23:05.57 | foxlit|mac | As in waiting on client/server sync |
| 23:06.04 | NeoTron | Zootfizzle: this is being "worked on" with SwapMagic, but the default Blizzard "equipment flyout" including ALL equippable gear (including grays) is a bit suboptimal |
| 23:06.06 | Zootfizzle | Or it's on your cursor, or something |
| 23:06.15 | mikma | haste: rofl, dodge++ |
| 23:06.45 | Zootfizzle | NeoTron: A dropdown with a minimum item level sounds like a good interface option |
| 23:06.53 | Zootfizzle | I'll suggest it and we can see where it goes ;) |
| 23:06.59 | Zootfizzle | Off for a bike ride! |
| 23:07.05 | NeoTron | cool and have fun |
| 23:07.05 | Lopeppeppy | Enjoy, Zoot! |
| 23:07.17 | Dashkal | ok, now I'm just jealous, Zoot :p |
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| 23:25.42 | Kraps | is there a way to save ui profiles? |
| 23:26.47 | p3lim | I have a value in seconds, how do I get it to show min:sec properly? |
| 23:27.04 | haste | 1. Use Math |
| 23:27.05 | p3lim | the value is never above 300 (5 min) |
| 23:27.17 | p3lim | ofcourse, im just a bit dizzy right now |
| 23:28.11 | p3lim | actually, I already use the math in one of my other addons |
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| 23:28.59 | haste | lua> return math.floor(300 / 60), math.fmod(300, 60) |
| 23:28.59 | lua_bot | haste: 5, 0 |
| 23:29.02 | haste | it's hard stuff |
| 23:30.16 | haste | using % is also a solution! |
| 23:31.14 | p3lim | i was using % |
| 23:31.48 | p3lim | lua > return math.floor(50 / 60), math.fmod(50, 60) |
| 23:31.58 | Ackis | quick I need code to make a fake realm first blood elf or something |
| 23:32.00 | p3lim | lua> return math.floor(50 / 60), math.fmod(50, 60) |
| 23:32.01 | lua_bot | p3lim: 0, 50 |
| 23:32.01 | Zootfizzle | lua> return string.format("%d:%2d", math.floor(290/60), math.fmod(290, 60)) |
| 23:32.02 | lua_bot | Zootfizzle: 4:50 |
| 23:32.14 | p3lim | yep |
| 23:32.15 | Zootfizzle | lua> return string.format("%d:%2d", math.floor(290/60), math.fmod(242, 60)) |
| 23:32.15 | lua_bot | Zootfizzle: 4: 2 |
| 23:32.15 | Ackis | hi Zootfizzle |
| 23:32.22 | Zootfizzle | lua> return string.format("%d:%02d", math.floor(290/60), math.fmod(242, 60)) |
| 23:32.22 | lua_bot | Zootfizzle: 4:02 |
| 23:32.25 | Lopeppeppy | Zoot, are you doing maths on your bicycle? *poke* |
| 23:32.25 | Zootfizzle | There we go :) |
| 23:32.30 | Zootfizzle | Heya Ackis! |
| 23:32.31 | Zootfizzle | No, I got back |
| 23:32.38 | Lopeppeppy | You ride fast! :) |
| 23:32.54 | p3lim | I had this: |
| 23:33.00 | Zootfizzle | Heh, back to Marine Corps PT, I'm doing two a day so the second bike ride's only 20 minutes |
| 23:33.22 | p3lim | lua> return format(%d:%02d', math.floor(245 / 60), 245 % 60) |
| 23:33.22 | lua_bot | p3lim: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '%' |
| 23:33.28 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, that makes sense as a routine. *nod* |
| 23:33.41 | p3lim | what now? |
| 23:33.48 | Zootfizzle | You were missing your opening ' |
| 23:33.54 | p3lim | ahh.. |
| 23:34.00 | p3lim | lua> return format('%d:%02d', math.floor(245 / 60), 245 % 60) |
| 23:34.00 | lua_bot | p3lim: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'format' (a nil value) |
| 23:34.05 | p3lim | -.- |
| 23:34.12 | p3lim | lua> return string.format('%d:%02d', math.floor(245 / 60), 245 % 60) |
| 23:34.12 | lua_bot | p3lim: 4:05 |
| 23:34.16 | haste | ITC - Failure. |
| 23:34.18 | p3lim | locals /facepalm |
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| 23:36.05 | Kalroth | hrmf, are there any (hidden) options for the new equipment manager? I don't want it to unequip items in empty slots :p |
| 23:36.38 | p3lim | if you swap gear it will use the other gear's slots in bags |
| 23:36.50 | NeoTron | so it appears the best option for SSD's for Wow playing purposes - load performance mainly - is intel's X25 |
| 23:36.51 | p3lim | but if you take it off it will just take any slot |
| 23:37.09 | NeoTron | that start at $314.99 for 80 GB @ NewEgg :P |
| 23:37.11 | Kirov | Kalroth - when saving gear, there's a "ignore this slot" options. |
| 23:37.18 | Kalroth | hrm |
| 23:37.22 | Kirov | Hold down alt and hover over a slot. |
| 23:37.25 | Kalroth | aha |
| 23:37.31 | Kalroth | Thank you |
| 23:42.17 | Lopeppeppy | wants to rent a cabana personage to bring her fancy drinks with umbrellas in them. |
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| 23:44.03 | ZorbaTHut | this random level 5 hunter keeps challenging my level 1 test character to a duel |
| 23:44.10 | ZorbaTHut | stop it, I am trying to test. go away I do not want to be owned by you |
| 23:44.40 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 23:44.51 | Lopeppeppy | If you put him on ignore, he can't duel you anymore, can he? |
| 23:45.02 | ZorbaTHut | the character's name is even "testytesty", it's not like it's subtle |
| 23:45.08 | Kalroth | ZorbaTHut: I'd try to gank you too! |
| 23:45.11 | Kirov | I used to have a character named Testhunter. I had a lot of people asking me what it meant... ... |
| 23:45.13 | |pez| | let him pwn you once, maybe he'll be happy. |
| 23:45.14 | ZorbaTHut | lope, yes, but I'd have to spell his name and it's hard |
| 23:45.38 | Lopeppeppy | Can't you just... right click his name in your chatbox or something? |
| 23:45.54 | ZorbaTHut | he's not actually saying anything, and I don't seem to be able to click the duel message |
| 23:45.54 | Thunder_Child | ZorbaTHut, think you can put the ETA on the directional arrow like carts? |
| 23:45.57 | Kalroth | Zorba uses a Mac, he only got left mouse button |
| 23:46.03 | Kraps | 14 fps at south bank /sigh |
| 23:46.21 | ZorbaTHut | thunder, is it actually, like . . . useful? I don't like it much myself and I'm not sure what people use it for |
| 23:46.29 | ZorbaTHut | also I think it'd be really confusing with the existing QH ETA numbers |
| 23:46.38 | |pez| | ... http://notalwaysright.com/a-number-666-with-a-side-of-brimstone/1979 |
| 23:47.04 | Thunder_Child | ZorbaTHut, what existing nummbers? also i use it when traveling to see how long i have to tab out or meander from my comp |
| 23:47.52 | ZorbaTHut | thunder, mouseover an objective on the map, it'll give you an ETA |
| 23:47.57 | ZorbaTHut | but it's kind of a wild approximation |
| 23:48.06 | airtonix | ZorbaTHut, target him, type in your chat box : %t FUCK OFF |
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| 23:49.09 | ZorbaTHut | right now I'm just taking the approach of not clicking "decline" |
| 23:49.13 | ZorbaTHut | since it locks him out of challenging anyone else |
| 23:49.29 | Lopeppeppy | Brat. I approve. |
| 23:49.44 | ZorbaTHut | oh boy here comes "darklegue" |
| 23:49.45 | ZorbaTHut | LEARN TO SPELL |
| 23:49.59 | ZorbaTHut | oh, my mistake, it's "darkleage" |
| 23:50.12 | ZorbaTHut | guh, starting zones on recommended servers are such cesspools :P |
| 23:50.42 | AbsolutRayne | Bonk |
| 23:52.38 | Kraps | this looks interesting but tl;dr http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=92844 |
| 23:53.21 | Lopeppeppy | And it's seriously patently untrue. |
| 23:53.24 | ZorbaTHut | pez, wtf. that cannot be real |
| 23:53.37 | Lopeppeppy | The Light is more a philosophy than a religion, many sources are VERY clear on that distinction. |
| 23:56.32 | p3lim | haste: your git is bugged |
| 23:57.06 | haste | p3lim: nope, it's set to not update |
| 23:57.57 | p3lim | odd, just a few seconds ago i got a red error text instead of code |
| 23:58.19 | p3lim | something about no respositories |
| 23:58.49 | haste | your probably trying towards ixo |
| 23:59.08 | p3lim | ixo.no/git |
