| 00:00.10 | Qzot | So, changing stuff changes the value of CPLayouts, but does not change anything the WoW system sees, *unless* the CPSetLayout function is called. |
| 00:00.28 | Qzot | Now, search your file for usages of CPSetLayout. How many times do you find that string in your source? |
| 00:00.39 | Hirsute | Qzot: He's three, and no, he hasn't noticed |
| 00:01.08 | Qzot | :D w00t. |
| 00:01.08 | reppgoa | just once |
| 00:01.14 | reppgoa | the function |
| 00:01.37 | Qzot | reppgoa: Right. The only time it shows up is when the function is *defined*. No one is *using* the function by calling it. |
| 00:01.43 | reppgoa | i see |
| 00:01.51 | reppgoa | so I need to "use" it |
| 00:02.10 | Qzot | Only if you want it to be something other than wasted space, yes. |
| 00:02.32 | Qzot | reppgoa: Is this the first programming you've done? |
| 00:02.42 | Qzot | (And that's no insult, btw.) |
| 00:02.53 | reppgoa | no, I did a little bit here and there, but I mainly do it as a hobby |
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| 00:03.07 | reppgoa | im still very much a noob=) |
| 00:03.16 | reppgoa | i am just starting lua |
| 00:03.17 | porkbun | qzot, done pasted :) |
| 00:03.24 | porkbun | reppgoa's like me then :D |
| 00:03.24 | Qzot | I don't know what kind of a budget you're on, but I'd recommend a couple things for ya. |
| 00:03.40 | Qzot | siaopao: Yes, I saw it. What was the original question again? :D |
| 00:03.51 | reppgoa | by all means =) I am very open to any help out there |
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| 00:04.27 | porkbun | my OnAchievementHandler function is being executed when i change zones and on loading |
| 00:04.32 | porkbun | and i can't figure out why |
| 00:06.00 | Qzot | reppgoa: http://tinyurl.com/ofwm38 is a link to amazon for "World of Warcraft Programming", a book that's a pretty gentle intro to programming in general, but in the WoW context. |
| 00:08.07 | reppgoa | ty =D |
| 00:08.51 | reppgoa | is there a "band-aid" fix that I can apply until I learn enough to make a proper add on |
| 00:10.15 | Qzot | Well, you're doing okay so far. But it's like an undergrad history major taking on major law trial. There's a reason they have schools for lawyering. :D |
| 00:10.45 | reppgoa | haha |
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| 00:10.56 | Qzot | Also, google "lua 5.1 manual" and give it a scan (not read). You'll pick up some ideas that you can put to immediate use. |
| 00:11.03 | reppgoa | nice |
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| 00:11.32 | Qzot | porkbun: I can't see any reason it would trigger on zoning or load. |
| 00:11.48 | Qzot | Are you sure you're running the version you pasted? |
| 00:13.27 | porkbun | yeah :( |
| 00:13.36 | porkbun | could it be the 'free', non functoin code at the bottom? |
| 00:15.23 | Qzot | No. That looks right to me. |
| 00:15.32 | mikma | http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/05/its-official-nb.html heh |
| 00:15.42 | Qzot | porkbun: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/114432 |
| 00:15.56 | Qzot | There's a line there you can uncomment to try to get more information. |
| 00:16.35 | kmcguire | Well, I can plot a path from any zone to 60 zones in 1.2 seconds using no path cache. And, the memory jumps up by about 5mb for each run but the GC drops it back down in just a second or two. Which is pretty good, and very simple code. But, needs more testing. |
| 00:16.35 | Qzot | Gah. Change Java-style comments at the top to Lua-style. |
| 00:17.55 | kmcguire | 230 lines of lua |
| 00:18.45 | kmcguire | tradewars pathing taught me a little something |
| 00:19.05 | porkbun | thanks qzot, i'll take a look :D |
| 00:19.49 | Cide- | 5mb? |
| 00:19.58 | Cide- | what algorithm? |
| 00:20.50 | porkbun | figured it out qzot :D |
| 00:20.58 | porkbun | bad conditional in the first if statement |
| 00:21.20 | kmcguire | Well, I make spheres where each zone has a intersection (for a path), and spheres for any type of portal (boat, plane, bird). Then, I connect these spheres with pipes. And, I pour water into the starting sphere. And, I calculate which sphere the water will hit first that is a destination. |
| 00:21.44 | Cide- | breadth first search? |
| 00:21.58 | kmcguire | I am not sure. I have never studied the algorithms. |
| 00:22.11 | kmcguire | Let me google that and see. |
| 00:22.42 | kmcguire | Yes, that looks to be exactly what I use or a variant. I will read some more. |
| 00:23.46 | Cide- | if you want to optimize it, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_star will do it nicely |
| 00:24.49 | kmcguire | That may be what I have accidentally done. |
| 00:25.13 | kmcguire | I pick my threads to advance by the ones with the shortest time (used). |
| 00:25.34 | kmcguire | Let me read. |
| 00:26.29 | Cide- | the difference is that to implement that algorithm, you'll need a heuristic measure of how far each given zone is from the goal |
| 00:26.36 | mikma | heh, nice comments in wowi forums about the star trek movie |
| 00:26.38 | Cide- | (coordinates would be fitting in your case) |
| 00:30.20 | kmcguire | Yeah, the straight line distance. That makes sense. |
| 00:37.39 | kmcguire | So my heuristic function is always constant and admissible. Because, like you said, Cide, it is a straight line which is the shortest path to any point using the coordinates. |
| 00:38.06 | kmcguire | Then, I am using a uniform-cost search the special case of the A*? |
| 00:38.38 | kmcguire | I dunno, but it works, lol. |
| 00:38.47 | kmcguire | And, it is fun. |
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| 00:39.52 | kmcguire | Yeah, I am I think. " In the queue, each node is associated with its total path cost from the root, where the least-cost paths are given highest priority." |
| 00:40.11 | kmcguire | And, I do that. |
| 00:40.14 | Cide- | Uniform-cost search is a special case of the A* search algorithm if its heuristic is a constant function |
| 00:40.35 | kmcguire | Thanks for showing that stuff to me, Cide. |
| 00:40.42 | Cide- | you're welcome |
| 00:40.59 | Cide- | I'm not very experienced with it for that matter, but I find the subject very interesting |
| 00:41.07 | kmcguire | Me too. |
| 00:42.19 | kmcguire | Trying to write a more simple and easier to read pathing code for quest helper. Even, if it was not quite as fast. My goal is still to have it very easy to read, modify, and understand. |
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| 00:54.55 | kmcguire | ZorbaTHut, That is what confused me about the existing pathing code too. You got all this crazy graphing, noding, clustering, and then pathing. But, I have essentially super performance and excellent flexibility in 700 lines of code, and 230 lines of the function it spends 98% of the time in. |
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| 00:55.27 | Cide- | http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20010314/pinter_01.htm is a great article too (but entirely unrelated to your work) |
| 00:59.31 | mikma | http://twitter.com/BarackObama |
| 01:01.28 | kmcguire | Oh, Cide. I have been doing some work on that topic lately. |
| 01:02.06 | kmcguire | I can not say what it is in fear I might unleash the might wheels of the world, but yeah. I find it very exciting and to provide games with lots of features. |
| 01:02.14 | dardack | yawn |
| 01:03.34 | kmcguire | Yeah, I have come close to a solution. But, moving a robotic arm towards a goal using a search function has a tremendously large keyspace. I have been trying to find solutions to reduce the keyspace to find optimal movements towards a goal. |
| 01:06.02 | kmcguire | Kinda similar to the rosetta project. Where they try to get the protien to relax. |
| 01:06.48 | kmcguire | Someone else will do it before me, lol. |
| 01:08.06 | mikma | http://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger |
| 01:14.59 | airtonix | kmcguire, are you making changes to questhelper? |
| 01:15.36 | kmcguire | Not really. It would be fun. I just push really hard on ZorbaTHut and make him implement the changes in his way. |
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| 01:16.51 | kmcguire | Because, frankly. It could be a lot better. A lot cleaner code. And, he could have more help easier. |
| 01:17.33 | airtonix | one issue i have with QH that i dont think will be addressed |
| 01:18.00 | mikma | it exists? |
| 01:18.27 | airtonix | it only operates off quests you have in your questlog |
| 01:18.37 | kmcguire | Yeah, air. I noticed that too. |
| 01:18.48 | airtonix | now, this is ok for casuals |
| 01:18.52 | kmcguire | I wish it might maybe give me a clue to some more quests or have the ability. |
| 01:18.58 | airtonix | but when you want to power level |
| 01:19.24 | airtonix | kmcguire, have you seen the guides over at wow-pro.com? |
| 01:19.28 | airtonix | by james? |
| 01:19.33 | kmcguire | I have not. |
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| 01:20.35 | airtonix | a good example of how QH fails at powerleveling can be found by comparing how it deals with zangramarsh |
| 01:20.51 | airtonix | look at james guide for that area and then look at how QH deals with it |
| 01:21.01 | kmcguire | ok, I am going to look now. |
| 01:22.26 | airtonix | im not sure how to explain it |
| 01:23.18 | airtonix | but im pretty sure that if you take the approach of picking up all the quests from a paticular area and then do them |
| 01:23.40 | airtonix | gah |
| 01:23.49 | airtonix | words, they loose me |
| 01:25.45 | airtonix | ok i got it: he minimised travel between xp gains by optimising the whole run not just from each quest gathering hub, but across whole zones |
| 01:26.04 | kmcguire | Yeah, he needs some dependancy information attached to quests in his database I figure. And, some type of factor associated with each one that can be used to calculate the difficulty and time to do them. |
| 01:26.13 | airtonix | not just that |
| 01:26.32 | airtonix | quests that cross areas where other quests can be gained from drops |
| 01:26.51 | kmcguire | Yeah, that is exactly the answer. |
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| 01:29.07 | airtonix | if it were to come about that a tourguide-esque aspect were incorporated to QH, maybe that would be a start to the idea? |
| 01:32.45 | airtonix | apparently next version of conky will include support for lua scripting |
| 01:32.47 | airtonix | woot! |
| 01:33.33 | airtonix | although, it basically already does with the ${exec} , ${execi} ${execi} functions |
| 01:33.45 | airtonix | ${execpi} * |
| 01:34.05 | foxlit | teehee, OPie ring graphics keep showing up on ouf layouts. |
| 01:34.22 | kmcguire | air, Yeah. It would. |
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| 01:35.08 | airtonix | what i do want though is to be able to run multiple own_window yes layouts without it interfering with desktop interaction |
| 01:35.25 | kmcguire | I like having a game with challenge, but I also like turning that off (by default) to play with people like my wife who just wants to do something fun. |
| 01:35.35 | kmcguire | I mean having the challenge on by default. |
| 01:35.36 | airtonix | currently i have to create one large layout for the setup i have if i want to be able to access openbox root menu when clicking on areas conky renders onto |
| 01:36.21 | airtonix | yeah i used questhelper for about 2 weeks and got rid of it when i realeased the cpu and mem it used was more than me running firefox |
| 01:36.37 | airtonix | cpu mostly |
| 01:37.38 | Cide- | you realize a web browser has to do basically nothing when it's not loading a page? |
| 01:37.45 | airtonix | my point |
| 01:37.55 | Cide- | that can't be your point |
| 01:37.59 | airtonix | loading up james guide ends up being better for my tatstes |
| 01:38.04 | kmcguire | air, He has got the memory down to around 5mb now. I do not know about the collected data (never looked at the code there closely). |
| 01:38.10 | Cide- | seeing as you were saying "it was mostly using more than no cpu" |
| 01:39.07 | airtonix | cide, waht do you think i was saying 'was using no cpu' |
| 01:39.32 | Cide- | when i realeased the cpu and mem it used was more than me running firefox |
| 01:39.35 | Cide- | cpu mostly |
| 01:39.39 | Cide- | ^ what you said |
| 01:39.50 | airtonix | yeah, im referring to QH |
| 01:39.57 | Cide- | I'm fully aware |
| 01:40.02 | airtonix | running FF caused less problems |
| 01:40.08 | Cide- | but you're comparing the cpu usage to something that uses hardly ANY cpu |
| 01:40.14 | Cide- | and your conclusion is that it uses more cpu |
| 01:40.17 | Cide- | that's great |
| 01:40.23 | kmcguire | Just a broad statement. Like the guy that wanted me to compare a GPU and a CPU. |
| 01:40.45 | Cide- | the fact that it uses more memory than firefox is, however, quite astounding, if true |
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| 01:41.01 | kd3 | I'd be shocked beyond belief |
| 01:41.07 | kmcguire | I know there was a report that QH started using 100mb of memory. |
| 01:41.12 | kd3 | fx is sitting pretty at a few hundred megs here |
| 01:41.21 | kmcguire | And, I swear it was climbing to 30mb when I first started using it. |
| 01:41.30 | airtonix | two options to achieve a guidline for leveling : use QH and impact my framerate, or run FF and not impact my framerate |
| 01:41.30 | kd3 | 30 mb << 100 |
| 01:41.50 | kmcguire | So, it is not far from it. |
| 01:41.51 | ScytheBlade1 | 58MB here |
| 01:42.01 | foxlit | (3) Read the bloody quest text and use brain. |
| 01:42.04 | kd3 | and if 30mb is causing you to drop frames, buy more RAM |
| 01:42.26 | airtonix | its not the memory thats causing framerate to drop |
| 01:42.33 | airtonix | but you would know that |
| 01:43.24 | Cide- | yes, it's the cpu that's greater than zero, as you kindly pointed out |
| 01:43.46 | airtonix | huh? |
| 01:44.36 | kmcguire | If you can lower memory then no matter the fps drop reason it does rule it out. |
| 01:44.49 | Cide- | oh, that's great |
| 01:44.57 | Cide- | you still don't know what you said |
| 01:45.06 | airtonix | i know waht i said |
| 01:45.11 | Cide- | not what it implied |
| 01:45.17 | airtonix | ? |
| 01:45.23 | Cide- | precisely |
| 01:45.28 | airtonix | i said questhelper uses more cpu than firefox |
| 01:45.31 | kmcguire | You guys know I am retarted.. |
| 01:45.41 | Cide- | kmcguire: that a question? :P |
| 01:45.43 | kd3 | so... why are you comparing apples and oranges? |
| 01:45.49 | kmcguire | It is a statement, haha. |
| 01:45.57 | foxlit | kd3: apples > oranges, discuss. |
| 01:46.06 | Cide- | lua> "apples" > "oranges" |
| 01:46.06 | lua_bot | Cide-: false |
| 01:46.10 | airtonix | i used them for the same purpose |
| 01:46.18 | Cide- | to browse the web? nice. |
| 01:46.18 | airtonix | therefore comparable |
| 01:46.26 | airtonix | no as a guide to level |
| 01:46.37 | kd3 | wow uses way more cpu and memory than xchat |
| 01:46.43 | kd3 | gasp! maybe I should stop using wow to chat |
| 01:46.49 | airtonix | ... |
| 01:47.02 | Codayus | Wow uses more cpu than peggle. |
| 01:47.04 | Codayus | :-( |
| 01:47.14 | foxlit | Cake uses more energy than pie. |
| 01:47.16 | foxlit | Mm, pie! |
| 01:47.28 | Codayus | Maybe I shouldn't have installed WoW just to run the peggle addon? |
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| 02:17.36 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP65V4AoFyA |
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| 02:43.19 | mikma | http://fukung.net/v/5874/Titsorgtfomedieval.jpg |
| 02:54.31 | Arrowmaster | hmm i saw this on slashdot http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090517/STYLE/305179976 and this line caught my attention "This philosophical link is so strong that the trademark is now owned by a firm called The Open Group." |
| 02:56.27 | Arrowmaster | so i went to http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4008:9o0esm.1.1 and entered "Open Group" in quotes and selected 'owner name and address' as what field to search, and i just came up with the business name trademark |
| 02:57.33 | Arrowmaster | so either i fail at searching trademarks or some reporter fails at doing their research |
| 02:59.19 | Arrowmaster | the only reason this even caught my attention that i bothered to try and look up the trademark it was refering to is because my uncle works for The Open Group |
| 03:00.00 | dardack | http://www.opengroup.org/trademarks.htm |
| 03:00.04 | dardack | they own UNIX |
| 03:01.11 | Iriel | http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/jumpto?f=doc&state=4008:9o0esm.6.63 |
| 03:01.20 | Iriel | (LAST LISTED OWNER) X/OPEN COMPANY LIMITED CORPORATION UNITED KINGDOM THAMES TOWER 37-45 STATION ROAD READING, BERKSHIRE RG1 1LX UNITED KINGDOM |
| 03:01.57 | dardack | which is the open group |
| 03:02.03 | Iriel | indeed |
| 03:02.18 | dardack | so you fail at searching? |
| 03:02.24 | Arrowmaster | i guess |
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| 03:08.17 | kmcguire | Ok, now I am going to make it compute the path that can produce the most quest objective completetions in the least amount of time. |
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| 03:17.16 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEZcslNOEBg |
| 03:17.17 | Wobin | ^^ |
| 03:19.23 | Fisker- | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
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| 03:41.14 | AnduinLothar | mmm earthquake |
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| 03:49.43 | Iriel | http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/ci10410337.htm |
| 03:49.52 | Iriel | Not too shabby |
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| 03:57.22 | Fisker- | :3? |
| 03:57.37 | Fisker- | omg quake 5 |
| 04:00.47 | Gnarfoz | did you feel it, Fisker- |
| 04:01.41 | Fisker- | i felt it INSIDE OF ME |
| 04:01.47 | Fisker- | did you feel it inside of you? |
| 04:05.31 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 04:05.35 | Fisker- | witchhunt inc |
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| 04:17.11 | Fisker- | you know what sucks Gnarfoz ? |
| 04:17.18 | Gnarfoz | your mom |
| 04:17.28 | Fisker- | actually i was going to say your mom |
| 04:20.08 | Fisker- | goodbye cruel Gnarfoz |
| 04:22.11 | digmouse | How many realms does WoW-US have? |
| 04:22.20 | Fisker- | a lot |
| 04:22.40 | digmouse | what is "a lot"? |
| 04:22.54 | Fisker- | more than a few |
| 04:22.57 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 04:22.57 | Fisker- | bai |
| 04:23.01 | digmouse | (I'm lazy to open the realm status page to count it) |
| 04:23.06 | digmouse | ~lart Fisker- |
| 04:23.06 | purl | lowers Fisker-'s priority |
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| 04:39.11 | kmcguire | ZorbaTHut, I think I found a way to quicker produce a optimized path that will complete objectives with dependancies in the shorted time with the highest value. |
| 04:39.17 | kmcguire | quicker/quickly |
| 04:39.48 | kmcguire | I take the alphabet and assign each letter to a quest objective. So if I have 6 objectives I have: ABCDEF. |
| 04:40.35 | kmcguire | 6*5*4*3*2*1=21600 total unique paths |
| 04:41.05 | kmcguire | But, sometimes you can not do maybe D then C. So DCxxxx removes some of the keyspace. |
| 04:41.06 | Osstia | Yogg Down! |
| 04:41.12 | End | gratz |
| 04:41.54 | kmcguire | So that kicks out 24 out of the keyspace.. and so on and so forth. The keyspace gets a reduction. |
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| 04:45.10 | kmcguire | oops, 720. |
| 04:45.17 | kmcguire | 21k looked a little big. |
| 04:48.30 | kmcguire | Just put some dependancy data in the quests and QH turns into a automated leveling guide. |
| 04:48.47 | kmcguire | Thats right bitch. The traveling saleman just lost his job. |
| 04:49.09 | Iriel | Did you account for inventory space? |
| 04:49.21 | kmcguire | Yes, I just have not told anyone. |
| 04:49.37 | Iriel | Or are you talking quest-at-a-time? |
| 04:49.52 | kmcguire | All quests and their objectives. |
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| 04:51.10 | kmcguire | Ok, you got me. I have not included inventory space into the calculations.. |
| 04:51.19 | kmcguire | But, I will look into it. |
| 04:51.31 | kmcguire | Since, that really gives him his job back at traveling around. |
| 05:06.42 | ScytheBlade1 | http://gizmodo.com/5257447/amd-to-intel-nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah |
| 05:09.54 | Dewin | Hmmm |
| 05:10.09 | Dewin | Equipment changes don't need to be a hw event... |
| 05:10.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Becuase you can't change them in combat |
| 05:10.57 | Dewin | Why isn't there an addon to equip a lance when you're trying to mount something for the argent tournament dailies and unequip it when you dismount... |
| 05:11.09 | Dewin | you can change weapons in combat, technically ;) |
| 05:11.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I *think* weapons may require a hw event in combat |
| 05:11.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Or may simply not be possible |
| 05:12.30 | Dewin | neither is correct |
| 05:12.35 | Dewin | Outfitter manages them just fine |
| 05:12.44 | Dewin | and I just realized it *has* an argent tournament automation script. |
| 05:13.01 | End | hehe |
| 05:17.06 | msou| | ppl get surprised when I tell them I picked herbalism and leatherworking as profession when my char is a dk |
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| 05:21.22 | AnduinLothar | aww fail "Exorcism: Can no longer be used on player-controlled creatures." |
| 05:22.14 | AnduinLothar | innervate buff tho "Innervate: This ability has been redesigned to grant 450% of the casting Druid's base mana pool to the target over 20 seconds." |
| 05:22.31 | AnduinLothar | now useful on non-spirit classes |
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| 05:29.47 | msou| | any dks here? |
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| 05:33.27 | Taroven | Not really, but I might know the class well enough to help? |
| 05:34.39 | msou| | Taroven: well, I have a decent gear and yet I don't get any good stats for dps |
| 05:35.05 | msou| | either 3 or 4 |
| 05:35.07 | msou| | 32192.pts-15.meridian |
| 05:35.10 | msou| | err |
| 05:35.17 | msou| | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Aammaa |
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| 05:36.35 | msou| | three more emblems and I will get that epic item from dalaran for 45 emblems legs armor |
| 05:36.59 | Ackis | i made a post 30 seconds ago and no one has repsonded yet! ahhhhhh |
| 05:41.53 | End | you should bump your own post imo |
| 05:43.02 | Ackis | kk |
| 05:43.30 | Ackis | done |
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| 05:47.58 | ReAn | hey |
| 05:48.01 | ReAn | this is kinda offtopic |
| 05:48.06 | ReAn | but i need a bit of feedback |
| 05:48.28 | ReAn | http://images.reanmachine.com/Otafest/2009/CompanionCube(Plus%20NPC-San).JPG <--- i need a bunch of people to load this pic in thier browser and tell me if the download fails part-way |
| 05:48.40 | ReAn | i need to figure out if it's my Hosting Provider or my ISP i should bitch at |
| 05:48.44 | ReAn | or both >_> |
| 05:49.19 | End | looks fine t ome |
| 05:49.24 | Codayus | Loads for me, I'd blame ISP. :-) |
| 05:49.37 | ReAn | k, time to put on the steel toed boots :p |
| 05:49.51 | Ackis | i'm disturbed after looking at that |
| 05:49.58 | ReAn | lol ackis |
| 05:50.13 | ReAn | be thankfull i didn't take a picture of the furries that showed up |
| 05:51.22 | ReAn | http://images.reanmachine.com/Otafest/2009/WhySoSerious.jpg <--- prolly will appreciate that one |
| 05:53.01 | ReAn | thx |
| 05:53.05 | ReAn | im off to bitch @ the ISP |
| 05:54.03 | Ackis | w t f |
| 05:54.04 | Ackis | ... |
| 05:54.12 | ReAn | LOL |
| 05:54.15 | End | ? |
| 05:54.24 | ReAn | It's nurse joker |
| 05:56.34 | Ackis | i'm scared.. |
| 05:59.32 | ReAn | have you not seen The Dark Knight? |
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| 06:02.29 | Ackis | yes I have |
| 06:02.29 | Ackis | lol |
| 06:04.58 | Shirik | so, my final roommate arrived today |
| 06:05.03 | Shirik | while we were playing dawn of war |
| 06:05.06 | End | arived? |
| 06:05.09 | End | arrived? |
| 06:05.13 | End | like in a box? |
| 06:05.19 | End | did he fedex himself? |
| 06:05.23 | Shirik | if you want to call a train a "box" then yes |
| 06:05.31 | Shirik | anyway |
| 06:05.38 | End | so, he amtraked himself? |
| 06:05.43 | Shirik | so he joins our game after watching me finish |
| 06:05.49 | Shirik | he had never played before |
| 06:05.58 | Shirik | and he's in that game kicking our asses |
| 06:06.06 | Shirik | I'm convinced it's because he's asian, automatically good at RTS |
| 06:06.26 | End | is he korean? |
| 06:06.40 | Shirik | I think chinese |
| 06:06.46 | End | well, that's not quite the same |
| 06:06.49 | End | but maybe close enough |
| 06:07.26 | Shirik | I mean he was on my level, but I've played the game for a while. We were on the same team and he's up there fighting with me on an attack early on, when the other two were still sitting back at their bases gathering resources |
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| 06:12.48 | Wobin | For Koreans it's genetic =P |
| 06:13.04 | End | starcraft runs in their veins! |
| 06:13.16 | Wobin | pure, unadulterated |
| 06:15.48 | msou| | from where do you get the gylphs by the way? mob drops? |
| 06:20.10 | msou| | aw |
| 06:20.13 | msou| | nm |
| 06:25.43 | Thunder_Child | "This survey is closed for today, please try again tomorrow. This survey is available from 12:00 PM to 10:30 PM Sunday thru Thursday." are you kidding me? |
| 06:26.05 | Corrodias | lul |
| 06:26.10 | Corrodias | maybe it's administered by hand |
| 06:26.18 | Thunder_Child | massive fail if so |
| 06:27.15 | Ackis | alert: I now have 1 of all the loot cards on my toon! /victory |
| 06:27.36 | Thunder_Child | kills the alert |
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| 06:29.18 | Ackis | ahhh |
| 06:32.07 | Shirik | kills Thunder_Child |
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| 06:33.22 | bluspacecow | ack |
| 06:33.26 | bluspacecow | snowed under @ work |
| 06:33.33 | bluspacecow | puts head down tail up |
| 06:34.19 | Thunder_Child | it's not that easy Shirik |
| 06:34.25 | Shirik | ~kill Thunder_Child |
| 06:34.26 | purl | ACTION shoots a ionized graviton gun at Thunder_Child |
| 06:34.35 | Shirik | sure it is |
| 06:34.50 | Thunder_Child | i never did like that...sounds like the gun itself is being shot at me |
| 06:35.10 | Shirik | would you like to be hit with a gun? |
| 06:35.34 | Thunder_Child | better than with the ammo i suspect |
| 06:35.59 | zenzio | depends how you're hit by the ammo |
| 06:36.13 | zenzio | if someone's just swinging a magazine at you, it probably hurts a lot less than if you get shot |
| 06:36.14 | Thunder_Child | as if fired from a gun |
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| 06:40.52 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, seems you can go test out said chicken on the test relm |
| 06:40.56 | Thunder_Child | realm* |
| 06:42.06 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 06:42.47 | Arrowmaster | i still have screenshots i think from when i did the infernal quest on my warlock years ago |
| 06:42.57 | Arrowmaster | awesome quest |
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| 07:05.37 | Sargeras | we haz an earhtquake |
| 07:05.45 | Sargeras | rumble rumble |
| 07:06.13 | Thunder_Child | 4.7 in LA |
| 07:06.33 | Thunder_Child | 4 hours ago or so |
| 07:13.35 | msou| | Arrowmaster: what's the quest called? |
| 07:14.01 | msou| | my favourite quest still the one I did in undercity with thrall and sylvanas |
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| 08:16.14 | msou| | heh, most of the guilds on the forum,s requires you to register and send them some sort of a cv |
| 08:17.06 | msou| | I am not sure how they define fun |
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| 08:21.58 | Industrial | they define fun as having a raid without retards |
| 08:22.11 | Industrial | I agree |
| 08:22.17 | msou| | heh |
| 08:22.33 | Industrial | I disagree, however, with needing to link your _achievent_ in voa pugs |
| 08:22.38 | Industrial | achievement, even |
| 08:32.15 | msou| | well |
| 08:32.43 | msou| | personally, I don't mind playing with anyone. he's new he'll learn or I tell him/her/it whatever I know |
| 08:33.21 | msou| | as of achievements I find it silly, yesterday someone I did few instances with invited me to naxx.. I did heroics yes but never naxx |
| 08:33.44 | msou| | they wasn't talking about me but generally saying "guess there is only 4 who knows this instance" etc |
| 08:34.13 | msou| | as if they were sitting side by side with blizzard's devs when they did naxx |
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| 08:41.37 | ZorbaTHut | when I'm playing, I prefer to play with competent people. Unfortunately, it's really tough to figure out who's competent before you've played with 'em |
| 08:42.29 | msou| | what is competent by the way? |
| 08:42.39 | msou| | understandable? |
| 08:42.49 | msou| | or knows what he is doing? |
| 08:42.51 | ZorbaTHut | "good", basically. |
| 08:42.55 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, knows what he is doing |
| 08:42.56 | msou| | ah ok |
| 08:43.26 | msou| | Hmmm well, my knowledge is very basic.. everyday I learn something new |
| 08:43.33 | msou| | would you play with me? |
| 08:43.57 | msou| | it's impossible I know you're in US and I am on EU realms =) |
| 08:43.59 | ZorbaTHut | I'd probably give it a shot. People who are willing to learn are good - even if they don't know the fight yet, they'll usually do it fine in one or two tries |
| 08:44.02 | msou| | on even |
| 08:44.29 | msou| | well, was the 3 person on recount list |
| 08:44.36 | msou| | yet they were complaining |
| 08:44.43 | msou| | dps specc |
| 08:46.06 | ZorbaTHut | there's more than just recount, though |
| 08:46.21 | msou| | care to elaborate? |
| 08:47.17 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.24 | Industrial | so yes theres a difference :p |
| 08:47.28 | ZorbaTHut | I did a Malygos run a while back with a bunch of people who were doing reasonably good damage. However, they never dealt with the sparks properly, so Malygos ended up being buffed and squashing me. If I managed to avoid getting killed, they still weren't doing quite enough damage because they weren't standing in the spark areas because they weren't killing the sparks |
| 08:48.05 | ZorbaTHut | and my guild's had a lot of trouble with Hodir because the DPS forgets to go break the NPCs out of ice |
| 08:48.23 | Industrial | I'm not pretending that I'm a leetskeet plaer, just that with a good team of people that know how to play with eachother you can get things done better |
| 08:48.44 | msou| | guilds are different, I mean you can explain before hand the tactic |
| 08:48.49 | Industrial | yep |
| 08:49.01 | ZorbaTHut | I've wiped repeatedly on the last boss on AN because the DPS gets aggro from the adds, then runs around the arena instead of running *up to me* so I can get aggro back. Doing lots of DPS is good, but it's not enough to count as a "really good player". |
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| 08:50.32 | msou| | maybe I see things differently =) I mean you'd never see me go "idiot you did that instead of that" got my killed fine by me we'll get him with the next try" b |
| 08:50.51 | msou| | I get your point though |
| 08:51.03 | Arrowmaster | theres a lot of people that repeatedly do stupid things |
| 08:51.18 | Industrial | "but my arrows ran out at level 2" |
| 08:51.26 | Arrowmaster | like healers that dont pay attention to the game but instead just look at health bars |
| 08:51.34 | Arrowmaster | and always die to cleaves |
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| 08:52.01 | msou| | only thing now is to understand my talent tree and what should I use first. what I do is I think ice touch, plague strike "the green one" then hrm that red skull twice and the purple skull.. summ gargoyle and back to red, red, purple |
| 08:52.27 | msou| | Arrowmaster: I still wouldn't call names. others do mostly remain silent |
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| 08:52.55 | msou| | I mostly remain silent |
| 08:53.11 | Elkano | so it's all your fault then! |
| 08:53.16 | msou| | hehe |
| 08:53.42 | Arrowmaster | but if youve never done an instance before then yeah you are going to need some handholding along the way by the rest of the group |
| 08:53.56 | Industrial | msou|: just read some elitistjerks on how stats work, how to gear your char, how your dps rotation becomes optimal etc |
| 08:53.57 | ZorbaTHut | msou, read Elitist Jerks |
| 08:54.06 | Industrial | ZorbaTHut: ZING |
| 08:54.09 | ZorbaTHut | then practice on a target dummy |
| 08:54.25 | ZorbaTHut | industrial, I'll get you next time! you and your meddling kids |
| 08:54.33 | msou| | Arrowmaster: lets put it this way, I never done naxxx. I ask you explain if you give me that hissy fit then fuck you "toward the whoever that player is" |
| 08:54.48 | msou| | Industrial: will do |
| 08:55.05 | msou| | ZorbaTHut: I do practice my axe and sword 400 |
| 08:55.53 | msou| | Arrowmaster: I hate players who thinks they're too hot for the game. |
| 08:56.11 | msou| | and I am not talking about you, generally speaking |
| 08:56.20 | ZorbaTHut | msou, no, I don't mean your weapon skill |
| 08:56.24 | Arrowmaster | no you probably are talking about me |
| 08:56.27 | ZorbaTHut | I mean your personal skill as a player |
| 08:56.33 | Arrowmaster | since i dont play anymore since the game isnt fun |
| 08:56.40 | Industrial | yes it is |
| 08:56.43 | Industrial | you just suck |
| 08:56.44 | Industrial | :; |
| 08:56.45 | Industrial | :p |
| 08:56.46 | msou| | Arrowmaster: I'm not talking about you mate |
| 08:56.48 | ZorbaTHut | numbers aren't everything. they're not even most things. |
| 08:56.51 | Arrowmaster | and theres nobody fun to play with on my server |
| 08:56.56 | Industrial | Arrowmaster: :< |
| 08:57.06 | Industrial | Arrowmaster: I rolled with haste! raiding now :) |
| 08:57.19 | msou| | ZorbaTHut: personal skills? how can you keep track on that? |
| 08:57.23 | Arrowmaster | youre on eu |
| 08:57.27 | Arrowmaster | arent you? |
| 08:57.28 | Industrial | yea |
| 08:57.32 | msou| | I am |
| 08:58.11 | msou| | wanted to play on US realms but when I called to exchange my keys they suggested me to stick with eu and took about 10 days to get the answer from them "we're on it" |
| 08:58.36 | Industrial | next game I play im ging mack to us servers if thats possible |
| 08:58.51 | msou| | ZorbaTHut: will practice more I guess.. I checked wowwiki and probably will try their tactic |
| 08:59.08 | Industrial | I've had it with all the people feeling better then you talking their own language on enGB servers (or at least thats how i perceive it) |
| 08:59.13 | Arrowmaster | game hasnt really been fun for me since sometime in 2.4.3 when my guild broke up that i had been raiding with since i hit lvl 60 4 years ago |
| 08:59.38 | msou| | bleh |
| 08:59.55 | msou| | finding a guild itself is a pain in the arse |
| 08:59.58 | Industrial | wtf do I care about a damn czech or portuguese guild add in /2 ? |
| 09:00.03 | msou| | haha |
| 09:00.21 | msou| | I actually saw russian text or maybe polish yesterday |
| 09:00.31 | msou| | lots of swedes |
| 09:00.38 | Industrial | at least on eu servers people talk english :p |
| 09:00.51 | msou| | come to kazzak then =) |
| 09:01.02 | msou| | you'd be surprised |
| 09:01.04 | Industrial | I support internationalization in that everyone that wants to talk in their own language should bugger off to their own server :D |
| 09:01.05 | zenzio | I'm fed up with people who assume that because a server is labelled as "enGB", British English is the only language allowed. Even the freaking Brits speak garbage on those servers |
| 09:01.31 | msou| | 3 days ago one was asking for stats and avhievements for a group quest "threat from above" dunno if it's a group quest or whatever haven't done it yet |
| 09:01.36 | zenzio | Industrial: I'm sure you're aware of all the Czech/Slavic servers they have in the EU then? |
| 09:01.45 | zenzio | or various Scandinavian? |
| 09:01.56 | Industrial | zenzio: actually they are expanding into italian and something else as we speak |
| 09:02.09 | Arrowmaster | msou|: people like that are just retarded |
| 09:02.16 | Elkano | polish |
| 09:02.16 | zenzio | Industrial: clever, sidestep my question by mentioning other languages |
| 09:02.22 | Arrowmaster | thats a suggested 3 person daily group quest |
| 09:02.30 | msou| | Arrowmaster: hehe I know =) I just laughed |
| 09:02.40 | Arrowmaster | that ive dued with a warrior and my warlock |
| 09:03.04 | ZorbaTHut | msou, you keep track of it by noticing what you're doing wrong, then making yourself stop doing it wrong. Research your class, learn how it works, maximize DPS, repeat. |
| 09:03.05 | zenzio | I prefer when people stick to the customer service language for a server, but until the ToS say they have to, I have no issue with people speaking their own language in all the chat channels |
| 09:03.12 | Industrial | zenzio: I'll answer it then; yes I know those servers dont exist. However I expect anyone that - just like me - can speak english just fine to do so on the internet |
| 09:03.19 | ZorbaTHut | Use tools like Recount and WWS to determine where your weaknesses are. |
| 09:03.21 | Arrowmaster | although the warrior was from the top raiding guild on the server, he tanked and was only down 3k health at the end |
| 09:03.33 | msou| | ZorbaTHut: oh I see. thanks |
| 09:03.40 | zenzio | Industrial: you clearly haven't grouped enough with eastern European people then, or even plenty of my countrymen |
| 09:03.57 | Industrial | I did, my server is full of 'tugas' (portuguese ppl) |
| 09:04.09 | Industrial | zenzio: I'm dutch myself but I refuse to talk it on the internet and in wow |
| 09:04.17 | zenzio | Industrial: that's your call |
| 09:04.18 | Industrial | and I would never play on dutch localized servers |
| 09:05.04 | zenzio | and I would never play on a Norwegian/Scandinavian server if I could choose not to, just as I speak English whenever I'm addressing the general public, but I still support those who disagree and use their own language |
| 09:05.25 | Industrial | but when they do they cut themselves off from the general community |
| 09:05.32 | zenzio | and that's their choice |
| 09:05.35 | Industrial | or worse, cut the general community off from them |
| 09:05.40 | Industrial | yes and I dislike them because of it |
| 09:05.47 | msou| | lunch break |
| 09:05.50 | Industrial | thats exactly what im triying to say |
| 09:05.59 | zenzio | and I'm saying I strongly disagree with you |
| 09:06.24 | Arrowmaster | im gona have to agree with Industrial on this one, but im an american |
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| 09:06.50 | zenzio | the majority will agree with him, which is very understandable |
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| 09:19.28 | d87_ | after russian localization huge amount of schoolkids came to play there (they couldn't before because of language), localization itself is horrible and a bunch of other unpleasant thigs like isolation from eu. |
| 09:19.58 | Zuz666 | ~seen nev |
| 09:19.59 | purl | nev <n=nev@neptun.aad.hr> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 779d 19h 57m 12s ago, saying: 'with regards to my update problem with xlibs-data. I got it when I logged in from other ISP network... I vaugly presume previously used ISP has transparent proxy which has a problem with that particular file...'. |
| 09:20.52 | d87_ | So if i will return to wow i would prefer small and friendly community on eu server |
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| 09:29.25 | digmouse | I think you are lokking for nevcairiel |
| 09:36.36 | Grum | 11:01:05 < zenzio> I'm fed up with people who assume that because a server is labelled as "enGB" <-- just be polite, non english is spam |
| 09:37.07 | zenzio | no |
| 09:37.22 | Grum | yes |
| 09:38.03 | zenzio | I'm not going to bother trying to convince you, since you already have the scrollback. My opinion remains the same, no matter what anyone else thinks |
| 09:38.53 | Cairenn | anyone from the Curse team awake atm? |
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| 10:01.00 | a_nil_value | Industrial: neuken in de keuken :D |
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| 10:03.51 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: there isn't a mode in texbrowser that lets me just scroll through _everything_ using ht ekeyboard, is there? |
| 10:04.44 | Grum | a_nil_value: you sound like a guildy i have ;D |
| 10:06.28 | a_nil_value | Grum: its the only danish I know, a formal greeting or something |
| 10:07.16 | Grum | danish? :D |
| 10:07.28 | Grum | dutch i presume ;) |
| 10:07.39 | Grum | and i think you should know what it really means if you *really* think its a greeting lol :D |
| 10:07.41 | a_nil_value | oh dutch |
| 10:08.02 | a_nil_value | it always makes anyone I know who is dutch smile so what else could it be |
| 10:08.37 | a_nil_value | I think you are mistaken, my dutch friend would not lie to me about something as trivial as the meaning of a few words |
| 10:08.50 | Grum | hehe |
| 10:09.06 | Grum | lets just say: 'keuken' is kitchen in english ;) |
| 10:09.31 | a_nil_value | so its some sort of idiom involving the word for kitchen? |
| 10:09.41 | a_nil_value | like Mi Casa Su Casa? |
| 10:09.55 | zenzio | you could say it's about connecting |
| 10:10.41 | Grum | right, its doing something in the kitchen ;) |
| 10:10.59 | Grum | you can just use google to translate it ;) |
| 10:11.32 | zenzio | ~x nl en neuken in de keuken |
| 10:11.57 | zenzio | coming from purl, that's almost topic-worthy |
| 10:12.45 | a_nil_value | oh wow no wonder Pieter's mom looked more surprised than happy :/ |
| 10:13.22 | zenzio | rule #1 of language: trust no-one, especially your friends, until you look it up in a dictionary |
| 10:23.43 | Industrial | a_nil_value: lolwat? |
| 10:25.00 | Taroven | It's true. |
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| 10:36.10 | Wobin | interesting |
| 10:36.11 | Wobin | http://www.philips.com/cinema |
| 10:36.21 | Wobin | then watch the making of here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teoSDTJDjF4 |
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| 11:08.56 | ZorbaTHut | argh, 5% of a level until I can go to the next zone, and I'm out of non-group quests |
| 11:11.54 | Elkano | well, time 2 grind ;) |
| 11:12.05 | Elkano | or just go |
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| 11:13.02 | mikma | torhal: that's great piece of code! |
| 11:13.40 | ZorbaTHut | if I just go, I won't have any quests available there :P |
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| 11:15.19 | Elkano | mikma, which code? |
| 11:16.06 | mikma | elkano: spacer line for QTip |
| 11:16.38 | Elkano | hmm... how did he do it now? |
| 11:16.54 | Elkano | just a backdrop for an empty line? |
| 11:17.31 | mikma | http://mikma.pastey.net/114455 |
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| 11:18.13 | mikma | pretty much the same kirov and i did it |
| 11:18.31 | mikma | http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=mikma&path=%2FPartyHardy%2FTooltipSpacerLine.lua |
| 11:19.24 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_051209_053536.jpg |
| 11:21.24 | Elkano | and that code works? Oo |
| 11:21.42 | jnwhiteh | Does anyone know how to use "Interface\\CharacterFrame\\TempPortraitAlphaMask" to mask a texture to be a circle.. or can we even do that? |
| 11:22.13 | mikma | elkano: which code? the one i use works perfectly |
| 11:22.17 | Elkano | he doesn't hide the texture so in case you reuse the tooltips with your lines siting in different possitions it could lead to unexpected stuff |
| 11:22.23 | Elkano | torhal's |
| 11:23.09 | mikma | no idea, that's what he came up with and i haven't tested it yet :) |
| 11:23.56 | Elkano | his code is ment for QTip I'd say |
| 11:24.00 | mikma | yes it is |
| 11:24.11 | mikma | <1415> <mikma> elkano: spacer line for QTip |
| 11:25.10 | Elkano | yeah ^^ |
| 11:30.21 | Grum | jnwhiteh: i thought only the game itself could use alpha masks |
| 11:30.27 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 11:30.33 | jnwhiteh | !api SetPortraitToTexture |
| 11:30.33 | lua_bot | SetPortraitToTexture: Sets a portrait to a given texture. (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetPortraitToTexture) |
| 11:30.36 | jnwhiteh | Found that |
| 11:30.50 | Grum | yeah the mask gets applied to that no matter what you feed it i guess |
| 11:30.55 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 11:30.56 | Grum | ditto with the minimap one |
| 11:30.57 | jnwhiteh | which is good |
| 11:31.02 | Grum | but there you have an option to give another mask |
| 11:31.07 | Grum | which spawned all the diff shapes |
| 11:31.36 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 11:31.38 | jnwhiteh | i know that |
| 11:31.45 | jnwhiteh | ther'es a specific function to apply a mask to the minimap tho |
| 11:32.02 | Grum | yup |
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| 11:33.11 | Dynami | LOL FAGS |
| 11:33.11 | Dynami | k. |
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| 11:33.32 | Grum | lol |
| 11:41.41 | Xinhuan | hmm is the search pattern '"([^"]*)"' equal to '"(.-)"' ? |
| 11:42.26 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 11:42.30 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 11:42.30 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 11:42.32 | jnwhiteh | i think =) |
| 11:42.37 | Wobin | yes, I think too =) |
| 11:43.09 | Wobin | I would -possibly- say the first is better |
| 11:43.16 | Wobin | since it's less processing |
| 11:43.40 | Wobin | but who knows how it optimises out |
| 11:44.44 | Grum | Xinhuan: hands off ;) |
| 11:45.41 | Xinhuan | hey i'm just wondering |
| 11:45.42 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 11:45.46 | Grum | i know regex! |
| 11:45.55 | Grum | sadly i have to work with lua patterns there |
| 11:45.56 | Grum | meh :P |
| 11:46.11 | krka | no, not the same |
| 11:46.49 | Grum | true, because 'not "' is not necessarily the same as . |
| 11:47.09 | Xinhuan | err grum |
| 11:47.11 | krka | hm, or maybe they are |
| 11:47.16 | Xinhuan | does armry really set druid as class 11 |
| 11:47.22 | Grum | yes o.O |
| 11:47.27 | Xinhuan | odd |
| 11:47.29 | Grum | i know! |
| 11:47.43 | Grum | i have to say, i didnt check all of the options |
| 11:47.57 | Grum | but the 6 i checked matched up with what the dropdown had in the armory |
| 11:48.00 | Xinhuan | so another question |
| 11:48.02 | Grum | so i just took the other 4 values for granted |
| 11:48.07 | Xinhuan | instead of doing one match() |
| 11:48.13 | Xinhuan | why did you choose to do 6 matches |
| 11:48.27 | Grum | because now the armory can change a tad without us breaking |
| 11:48.35 | Grum | defensive coding ;) |
| 11:48.48 | Xinhuan | did you add the code for rawr 2.2.4 or rawr 2.2.3? |
| 11:48.51 | Grum | order shouldnt matter and it doesnt right now |
| 11:48.55 | Grum | 2.2.4 |
| 11:48.56 | Xinhuan | the saved format has changed |
| 11:49.00 | Grum | ohk |
| 11:49.08 | Grum | the fucking piece of shit crashed my box last night |
| 11:49.11 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:49.19 | Xinhuan | in 2.2.4, you get something like |
| 11:49.20 | Xinhuan | <Hands>46131.39998.0.0.3246</Hands> |
| 11:49.27 | Grum | yeah that one i parse |
| 11:49.40 | Xinhuan | but in 2.2.3 you get <Hands>46131.39998.0.0</Hands> <HandsEnchant>3246</HandsEnchant> |
| 11:49.54 | Grum | oh trivialish to 'fix' |
| 11:50.15 | Xinhuan | also fix the "grammar" in your rawr instruction string ;p |
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| 11:51.34 | Grum | if not enchant_id then enchant_id = input:match( '<'..s..'Enchant>([^<]*)</'..s..'Enchant>' ) end |
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| 11:52.40 | Grum | meh i just put something in hehe |
| 11:52.52 | Grum | made it here @ work this morning... |
| 11:52.57 | Grum | just wanted to get it done ;) |
| 11:53.53 | Xinhuan | hmmm |
| 11:54.03 | Xinhuan | rawr doesn't save the level of the player lol, i guess its assumed 80 |
| 11:54.38 | Wobin | http://motivatedphotos.com/?id=4724 |
| 11:54.52 | stolenlegacy | lawl |
| 11:56.08 | Xinhuan | grum: http://paste.wowace.com/673/ |
| 11:59.07 | Grum | mm <ExtraWaistSocket>39998.0.0.0</ExtraWaistSocket> is nasty |
| 12:03.56 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure if it handles the extra glove/bracer socket differently |
| 12:04.02 | Xinhuan | since i dont have any saved files containing |
| 12:04.07 | Xinhuan | such cases |
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| 12:25.17 | foxlit | Annoying: I want to add a "mouse [wheel] sensitivity" slider to my configuration panel |
| 12:26.01 | foxlit | Unfortunately, the way implementation works is that it ways for X separate mouse wheel events to occur in the same direction before (properly) handling a mouse wheel event in that direction. |
| 12:26.24 | foxlit | So it'd be easiest to make the slider just adjust X, but that would have an inverse relationship compared with what I want. |
| 12:28.43 | Kraftman | can you multiply the event by a number to reduce sensitivty, and make a single scroll wheel very sensitive? |
| 12:29.05 | foxlit | You could, but that wouldn't be nice. |
| 12:29.15 | foxlit | Effectively, I'm using it to scroll through a list. |
| 12:29.26 | foxlit | If one hardware event resolves to more than one software event, you'll skip past items. |
| 12:30.06 | foxlit | or perhaps I'm not parsing that correctly. |
| 12:31.03 | foxlit | "can you multiply the event by a number to reduce sensitivty, and make a single scroll wheel very sensitive?" << That is, in fact, sort of like what I do. Except a single event translates to a single action; the multiplication factor slows things down by requiring multiple events before performing the action. |
| 12:31.05 | Kraftman | then what does the 'sensitivity' do? change the amoutn of lines thta it scrolls at a time? |
| 12:31.12 | Kraftman | amount, that* |
| 12:31.24 | foxlit | Increase the number of hardware events that you have to fire before it'll scroll one line |
| 12:31.35 | Kraftman | ahh i see |
| 12:32.29 | foxlit | (I suspect the usefulness of this varies with the type of mouse that you use -- mine tends to be overly sensitive, so I want to balance it down a bit. If someone else has a proper scroll wheel, they'll probably want to reduce this throttling.) |
| 12:32.58 | foxlit | It's a wording problem: if you set "Mouse sensitivity" (X) to a high value, it actually decreases sensitivity. |
| 12:33.27 | Kraftman | surely at a minimum you wouldnt want to 1 scroll to move the list one place? |
| 12:33.33 | Kraftman | would* |
| 12:33.44 | foxlit | At the maximum, you mean |
| 12:33.56 | Kraftman | minimum |
| 12:34.06 | Kraftman | unless i am misunderstanding the list |
| 12:34.16 | foxlit | Put it in a sentence. |
| 12:34.58 | Kraftman | for example, taking the chat frame as a list, low sensitivity would move the list 1 line at a time, high sensitivity would move it 5 lines at a time |
| 12:35.51 | Kraftman | at the minimum you would want 1 scroll of the wheel to = 1 line change, maximum 1 scroll of the wheel = 5 line changes |
| 12:35.59 | foxlit | Yeah. Not that sort of list. |
| 12:36.05 | Kraftman | ok > |
| 12:36.22 | foxlit | I'm tackling a slightly different problem: your mouse wheel can be overly enthusiastic in firing scroll events. |
| 12:36.42 | Kraftman | ^^ |
| 12:36.55 | foxlit | What's important to me is that you can select any list element no matter how your mouse behaves |
| 12:37.23 | foxlit | So, for me, the maximum sensitivity would be 1 scroll of wheel = 1 element transition, and minimum would be X scrolls of wheel = 1 element transition (X>1) |
| 12:37.59 | foxlit | Mouse de-sensitivity, if you will. |
| 12:38.02 | Kraftman | yeh i see |
| 12:39.06 | foxlit | The problem is then reconciling that behavior with a slider and its label. |
| 12:39.35 | foxlit | "Mouse sensitivity" would have you thinking high=more sensitive; "Mouse de-sensitivity" is just ugly. |
| 12:40.07 | Kraftman | swap the high and low labels :P |
| 12:40.24 | foxlit | goes against the low/high convention |
| 12:41.02 | Kraftman | inverse the output from the slider? |
| 12:41.20 | foxlit | That'd take code, and I'm lazy. That is, as far as I can see, also the best solution. |
| 12:41.35 | Kraftman | or swap the high/low values while keepig the labels the same |
| 12:41.59 | foxlit | Pity it's :SetMinMaxValues and not :SetLowHighValues :) |
| 12:42.09 | Kraftman | >< true |
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| 12:42.55 | nevcairiel | you could set negative values and then inverse it =p |
| 12:43.40 | Lopeppeppy | makes a Willy Wonka pun. |
| 12:43.52 | foxlit | And then mess with the labels? :) |
| 12:44.10 | foxlit | Actually, that's easier than what I had in mind |
| 12:44.45 | Tuller | sick days are much more fun now that I've realized the power of macbook + bed |
| 12:44.53 | Wobin | \o/ |
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| 12:44.58 | Lopeppeppy | Laptops make sick days awesome, Tuller. |
| 12:45.07 | Lopeppeppy | But I'm sorry you're not feeling well. /soup |
| 12:45.21 | foxlit | need giant wall-size hi-def displays for sickdays |
| 12:45.28 | Kraftman | is it a sick day or a 'sick' day |
| 12:45.30 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, projection sets. |
| 12:45.39 | Beladona | mm, the future, and OLED wallpaper |
| 12:45.51 | Wobin | foxlit: seen that asus keyboard computer? |
| 12:45.56 | foxlit | no |
| 12:46.51 | Lopeppeppy | So weird, Wobin! |
| 12:47.32 | Tuller | even though today is punchout day, today is an actual sick day |
| 12:47.52 | Tuller | I blame the 20+ degree drop in temp |
| 12:48.13 | Wobin | http://www.ohgizmo.com/2009/05/15/rumor-eee-keyboard-to-be-released-next-month/ |
| 12:50.22 | Tuller | I like the concept, but I figure its not powerful |
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| 12:51.14 | foxlit | I'm not sure what you would want to use that for |
| 12:51.26 | Wobin | The wireless HDMI is pretty cool |
| 12:52.05 | foxlit | I figure it's competing with a real wireless keyboard paired with a PC that stands somewhere close to a display. |
| 12:53.03 | Lopeppeppy | It's kind of like your iPhone, except more keys. *gentle shrug* |
| 12:53.49 | kraft|afk | WTB crunchpad :( |
| 12:54.26 | Aezay | I've set up a PayPal to accept donations, to do so I need to upgrade to Premier account type to accept more than 5 donations right? |
| 12:55.06 | Wobin | wha? |
| 12:58.09 | Tuller | you wanna be verified, but I don't think you need to do much else |
| 12:59.11 | kraft|afk | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23719&highlight=paypal |
| 12:59.22 | Beladona | Aezay: You are thinking of the "accept payment" feature. It has a limit on credit card transactions, but I think you can accept donations without limit |
| 12:59.47 | Aezay | Beladona, yes that's it |
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| 12:59.58 | Aezay | but what if people donate using credit card? |
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| 13:00.09 | Beladona | not sure |
| 13:00.30 | Tuller | as long as they donate via a paypal account, I don't think it should matter |
| 13:00.34 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8Yi6ITZtHg |
| 13:00.36 | Beladona | I don't know what people use to donate to me, so I can't verify, but I do know my limit hasn't been reached |
| 13:02.23 | Aezay | Beladona, weird, guess I will just have to wait and see, haven't exactly recieved many donations, but I those I got PayPal was saying I could only accept 5 of them |
| 13:12.27 | Nitra | How can I get the duration of an item? |
| 13:13.08 | Lopeppeppy | Duration of an *item*, not a buff or debuff? |
| 13:13.08 | Nitra | Can't seem to find any appropriate function for it, except looking at the text in the tooltip, but that is inexact.. |
| 13:13.17 | Nitra | Yeah, like Mysterious Egg |
| 13:13.51 | Beladona | might have to tooltip scan |
| 13:14.06 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I understand what kind of items you're talkign about now... |
| 13:14.09 | Lopeppeppy | What Beladona said. |
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| 13:15.25 | Nitra | Eww, that'll be inexact then.. |
| 13:15.42 | Lopeppeppy | It's possible that exactness isn't available? |
| 13:15.55 | Nitra | Yeah, I understand |
| 13:16.39 | Nitra | I should be able to capture when the egg is bought and still achieve exactness, so shouldn't be too much of a problem |
| 13:16.53 | Nitra | Thank you for the answer though :) |
| 13:17.18 | Beladona | its too bad they don't treat it as a cooldown |
| 13:17.23 | Beladona | you could get that rather easily |
| 13:17.36 | Nitra | Yeah, found how to do that, and thought it would work |
| 13:17.54 | Nitra | But assume that would cause collision on items with both cooldown and duration |
| 13:18.28 | Beladona | wait |
| 13:18.33 | Beladona | what happens when you try to use it |
| 13:18.38 | Beladona | does it generate an event, or error? |
| 13:18.46 | Beladona | and if so, does that error contain the info you need |
| 13:19.04 | Nitra | I get data as if the item isn't on cooldown |
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| 13:47.06 | augustl | Is it possible to somehow figure out if a certain quest is completed or not? Not a quest in your quest log, but a quest you have turned in and finished. |
| 13:47.16 | nevcairiel | not really, no |
| 13:47.29 | augustl | use case: finding the quests you're missing in a particular zone, so that you know where to go for the all-quests achievement |
| 13:47.39 | augustl | hm, I see |
| 13:47.42 | Lopeppeppy | You can keep track of them as you do them, but you can't find out after the fact if you've done it. |
| 13:48.02 | Lopeppeppy | I use EveryQuest to keep track, it also has a full quest list so I can go shopping around a zone. |
| 13:48.42 | augustl | but if you haven't had that addon while questing, you're on your own? |
| 13:48.51 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly |
| 13:49.19 | theorbtwo | You could switch to the "low-level quests" minimap tracker, and then you'll know if you've done all quests from an NPC by the lack of a !. |
| 13:49.36 | Lopeppeppy | That also is helpful. *nod* |
| 13:50.07 | augustl | yeah, that makes sense for anything that isn't northrend at least |
| 13:50.31 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:51.04 | Lopeppeppy | foxlit, stop having fun. |
| 13:51.18 | foxlit | It gets more fun yet. |
| 13:51.37 | foxlit | I want to change that so that it allows recursion that eventually terminates, but not infinite recursion |
| 13:52.43 | Torhal | mikma: :D |
| 13:53.57 | mikma | torhal: how will the tiiltip hiding work? |
| 13:54.12 | mikma | tooltip* |
| 13:56.02 | Torhal | mikma: Just fine. If you release, though, another tooltip will probably end up unintentionally using the texture so you'll have to keep track of the lines you're using in a table and manually hide them with a for loop. |
| 13:56.22 | Torhal | The textures, that is. |
| 13:57.03 | Torhal | Same if you change the contents of the tooltip |
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| 13:57.13 | mikma | hmm, i guess i need to mod my code around a bit so same lines will be used for *all* tooltips |
| 13:57.33 | mikma | instead of creating lines for itemreftooltip and gametooltip |
| 13:57.35 | Torhal | Not necessarily. Lemme pastey |
| 13:58.05 | mikma | but having the tooltips to use same textures = eliminates the use of creating more and more |
| 13:58.35 | Torhal | Yah, but you'll only create a finite (and more than likely small) number. |
| 14:00.17 | mikma | well, theres that much lines that can fit in the screen at once =) |
| 14:00.19 | mikma | max 40 |
| 14:00.25 | Torhal | Aye |
| 14:01.09 | mikma | but if gametooltip and itemreftooltip create 40 lines both (worst case) .. thats 80 |
| 14:01.39 | mikma | now if i fix them to use the same lines, that'll be 40 lines in use instead of 80 heh |
| 14:03.12 | Torhal | http://paste.wowace.com/674/ |
| 14:03.12 | Torhal | Note: I'm just now waking up so that probably needs tweaking. |
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| 14:03.43 | Torhal | For example, you could have CreateSpacer() return the line Frame itself and insert that directly into the table thereby skipping the Acquire() on Hide |
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| 14:04.33 | mikma | yeah, that'll prolly work nicely |
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| 14:24.09 | Wobin | spec to level a mage |
| 14:24.14 | Wobin | frost, eh? |
| 14:25.00 | Lopeppeppy | So I hear, Blizzard is all the rage for farming and soloing. |
| 14:26.04 | Wobin | rofl, I love starting a new toon |
| 14:26.12 | Wobin | all my addons a bunched riiight in the middle of the screen |
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| 14:27.18 | Lopeppeppy | Do you not copy a toon's setup at least, to get you started? |
| 14:29.54 | Wobin | Nah |
| 14:30.00 | Lopeppeppy | Silly bear. |
| 14:30.04 | Wobin | hehe |
| 14:30.12 | Wobin | My bar setups are completely different for each character |
| 14:30.26 | Lopeppeppy | But are the bars at least in the same *place* ? |
| 14:30.54 | Wobin | give or take |
| 14:30.54 | Wobin | sometimes not =) |
| 14:31.16 | Lopeppeppy | I try to keep the same general layout for everyone, with the same general feel, so when I hit CTRL-Rightclick on toon 1, it does something good, and the same on toon 2, etc.... |
| 14:31.58 | Industrial | question: the global cooldown can not ever ever speed up right? it will always me 1.5 secs? |
| 14:32.07 | foxlit | Haste affects it |
| 14:32.11 | mikma | industrial: haste |
| 14:32.14 | Wobin | down to 1 second, I think |
| 14:32.16 | foxlit | Except for melee classes |
| 14:32.33 | Industrial | hmm, ok |
| 14:32.49 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/content/store/magic.png << Hurray |
| 14:33.05 | Industrial | foxlit: ! |
| 14:33.14 | foxlit | I'm open to explanations as to why that's so awesome. |
| 14:33.16 | Lopeppeppy | Whuzzit do? |
| 14:33.40 | nevcairiel | its the same ring twice |
| 14:33.43 | Lopeppeppy | It better be an I WIN button for taking up my screen space.... |
| 14:33.44 | nevcairiel | is puzzled |
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| 14:34.00 | mikma | minirings |
| 14:34.09 | Lopeppeppy | Not so mini, IMO |
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| 14:34.53 | foxlit | nevcairiel wins :) |
| 14:34.58 | mikma | but rings in rings.. |
| 14:35.08 | mikma | thats most likely the idea |
| 14:35.09 | Beladona | sub-rings? |
| 14:35.56 | Industrial | ^ |
| 14:37.00 | foxlit | Sub-rings, yeah. |
| 14:37.06 | foxlit | In fact, every slice in that ring is another ring. |
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| 14:37.40 | foxlit | The top one happens to point to the same ring as it's in; the resolution of what would do what is why this thing is awesome. |
| 14:38.10 | Tuller | you know, I love mouse gestures, but cannot wrap my head around oring still |
| 14:39.28 | foxlit | It's something not quite entirely unlike gestures |
| 14:40.13 | mikma | up up down own left right left right A B start |
| 14:40.49 | Wobin | fail |
| 14:40.53 | Wobin | it's B A B A start |
| 14:41.01 | Osstia | and in some cases select/start |
| 14:41.09 | Wobin | indeed, for two players |
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| 14:42.50 | krka | ââââââââBA start |
| 14:43.08 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you. |
| 14:44.42 | mikma | wobin: what's B A B A? |
| 14:44.57 | Wobin | the buttons you need to press |
| 14:45.18 | mikma | wobin: i just threw that out of my head ^ |
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| 15:02.58 | Lopeppeppy | I seriously has a tired. *face mash on keyboard* |
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| 15:04.22 | Seerah | gives Lopeppeppy a pillow |
| 15:05.46 | Kraps | how do i make a fresh addon folder without deleting my addons? |
| 15:05.59 | nevcairiel | rename it? :) |
| 15:06.04 | |Jelly| | Rename your current Addons Folder and then log in. |
| 15:06.15 | Kraps | ok thanks |
| 15:07.06 | Kraps | then if i want to use it again i just change it back? |
| 15:07.24 | Seerah | yes |
| 15:07.29 | Seerah | same with WTF |
| 15:08.05 | Kraps | wtf is wtf anyway? :p |
| 15:08.27 | Lopeppeppy | What The F**K |
| 15:08.40 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle* |
| 15:08.43 | Kraps | i mean the wtf folder |
| 15:08.46 | Kraps | :) |
| 15:08.46 | Lopeppeppy | wow text files I think? |
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| 15:18.32 | Kraps | wow the wtf folder resets the whole damn thing |
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| 15:19.25 | Seerah | yep |
| 15:20.04 | Kraps | the dragon thing in the cinematic is saph? |
| 15:22.03 | Nitra | Sindragosa is my guess |
| 15:22.29 | Lopeppeppy | The one that what his face wakes up from the ice. *nod* |
| 15:23.46 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.26 | Kraps | Sindragosa was also introduced in the new login screen when Patch 3.0.2 was released, in which many players have come to love and/or hate the ferocious roar. |
| 15:25.29 | Kraps | hehe |
| 15:25.43 | Kraps | log in before the roar ftw |
| 15:25.47 | Lopeppeppy | ^ |
| 15:25.54 | Kraps | lmao |
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| 15:37.10 | |Jelly| | hate |
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| 15:38.26 | |Jelly| | What I hate more is sometimes, it sits there empty except with that stupid dragon (no log in) for like two minutes. Which I know in the grand scheme of things, two minutes isn't a long time but it always seems to do it (or did it) when WoW would just randomly close with no error so I was usually mid-raid, and generally tanking. lol |
| 15:39.07 | Kraps | "sits there empty except with that stupid dragon (no log in) for like two minutes" slow pc? |
| 15:39.16 | |Jelly| | no |
| 15:39.37 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:40.20 | k1net1k | anyone know a mod that simply hides the default blizz party frame |
| 15:40.38 | |Jelly| | MoveAnything! would |
| 15:40.50 | |Jelly| | But it's not /simply/ what it does. :-\ |
| 15:41.12 | k1net1k | :) thanks |
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| 15:49.35 | Kraps | i installed nUI: Dual Stats (Merged Omen3/Recount info panels) but i dont see it in the interface |
| 15:50.01 | Kraps | i only get map or combat |
| 16:03.06 | Kraps | anyone? |
| 16:05.51 | Aezay | is there any way to use patterns to match the start of a string OR a space? |
| 16:06.40 | ZorbaTHut | aezay, prepend a space to the string, then match a space? :D (you might be able to do it without that hack, but that'd work) |
| 16:07.01 | Aezay | example: I want to find a number value in the strings, "80" and "PlayerName 80" but it must not match the number in "cow80" |
| 16:07.20 | Aezay | ZorbaTHut, hmm good idea, will try it |
| 16:23.19 | Wobin | perhaps [ ]?%d+? |
| 16:24.06 | Wobin | or rather %s?%d+ |
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| 16:30.46 | Wobin | actually no, the best is Zorba's suggestion |
| 16:32.08 | Wobin | lua> print(string.match(" Player 30", "%s+(%d+)")) |
| 16:32.08 | lua_bot | Wobin: 30 |
| 16:32.15 | Wobin | lua> print(string.match(" Ps30", "%s+(%d+)")) |
| 16:32.15 | lua_bot | Wobin: nil |
| 16:32.22 | Wobin | lua> print(string.match(" 30", "%s+(%d+)")) |
| 16:32.22 | lua_bot | Wobin: 30 |
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| 16:34.49 | Wobin | PS, only in Japan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptSNX8AqbKE |
| 16:37.38 | nicoli_s | is that the giant gundam? |
| 16:42.39 | Aezay | Wobin, yeah ZorbaTHut's suggestion worked really well |
| 16:42.53 | ZorbaTHut | three cheers for ridiculous hackery |
| 16:47.44 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.match(" Player 30orly 20", "%s+(%d+)")) |
| 16:47.44 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 30 |
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| 16:50.55 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.match(" Pla40yer 30orly for20 50", "%f[%d](%d+)[^%d]")) |
| 16:50.56 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 40 |
| 16:51.42 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.match(" Pla40yer 30orly for20 50", "%f[%d](%d+)%f[^%d]")) |
| 16:51.43 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 40 |
| 16:52.09 | sylvanaar | i swear i dont understand frontier |
| 16:52.28 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.match(" Pla40yer 30orly for20 50", "%f[^%d](%d+)%f[^%d]")) |
| 16:52.29 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: nil |
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| 16:56.04 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.match(" Pla40yer 30orly for20 50", "%f[%s%d](%d+)%f[^%d]")) |
| 16:56.04 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 40 |
| 16:57.27 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.match(" Pla40yer 30orly for20 50", "%f[%d](%d+)%f[%s]")) |
| 16:57.27 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 20 |
| 16:57.47 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.match(" Pla40yer 30orly for20 50", "%f[%s](%d+)%f[%s]")) |
| 16:57.47 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: nil |
| 16:58.22 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.match(" Pla40yer 30orly for20 50", "%f[%s%d](%d+)%f[%s]")) |
| 16:58.23 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 20 |
| 16:58.54 | _rane | for how long has bartender supported LibKeyBound? |
| 16:59.09 | _rane | or how long has LibKeyBound existed? |
| 17:00.09 | NeoTron | since the most recent BT revision I gather |
| 17:00.29 | Seerah|away | _rane: NeoTron means since BT4 was created |
| 17:00.52 | Seerah | and there was a similar library (same?) used in Bongos2 and Bongos 3 |
| 17:01.26 | Tuller | keybound -> libkeybound -> dominos + bartender + autobar |
| 17:01.38 | Tuller | trinity -> keybound |
| 17:01.57 | Seerah | your flowcharts confuse me, but I'll just smile and nod :) |
| 17:03.10 | Tuller | trinity's binding system was the basis for keybound, which was used by bongos2/3, which the author of autobar libified, and used for autobar, which I switched bongos3 to, which nev switched bartender4 to, and which I used for dominos |
| 17:03.12 | _rane | thanks |
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| 17:03.20 | Tuller | that's probably more confusing :p |
| 17:03.34 | Seerah | lol |
| 17:03.36 | Seerah | nah |
| 17:05.21 | Dewin | Tuller: That right there = the wonders of open source. |
| 17:06.34 | Lopeppeppy | That lived in the house that Jack built? |
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| 17:07.39 | Aezay | sylvanaar, what does %f match? |
| 17:08.50 | Tuller | http://lua-users.org/wiki/FrontierPattern |
| 17:13.31 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.match(" Pla40yer 30orly for20 50", "%s?(%d+)%s?")) |
| 17:13.32 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 40 |
| 17:14.11 | nevcairiel | frontier pattern are mighty magic |
| 17:14.16 | nevcairiel | yet confusing to understand at first |
| 17:15.35 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.match(" Pla40yer 30orly for20 50", "%f[%d](%d+)%f[%D]")) |
| 17:15.35 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 40 |
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| 17:15.49 | sylvanaar | how do you get 50 |
| 17:17.08 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.match(" Pla40yer 30orly for20 50", "%f[%d%s]%s?(%d+)%s?%f[%D]")) |
| 17:17.08 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 40 |
| 17:17.53 | sylvanaar | i really hate luas patterns |
| 17:19.33 | nevcairiel | i like how simple they are |
| 17:19.38 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.match(" Pla40yer 30orly for20 50", "%f[%s]%s*(%d+)%s?%f[%D]")) |
| 17:19.39 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 30 |
| 17:19.41 | nevcairiel | until i start missing something |
| 17:20.03 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.match(" Pla40yer 30orly for20 50", "%f[%s]%s*(%d+)%s?%f[^%d%s]")) |
| 17:20.03 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 30 |
| 17:20.34 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.match(" Pla40yer 30orly for20 50", "%f[%s]%s*(%d+)%s?%f[%S]")) |
| 17:20.34 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: nil |
| 17:20.57 | sylvanaar | hopeless |
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| 17:21.59 | durcyn | lua> print(string.match( "Pla40yer 30orly for20 50", "(%d+)$") |
| 17:22.00 | lua_bot | durcyn: luabot:1: ')' expected near '<eof>' |
| 17:22.06 | durcyn | lua> print(string.match( "Pla40yer 30orly for20 50", "(%d+)$")) |
| 17:22.07 | lua_bot | durcyn: 50 |
| 17:22.08 | durcyn | >_> |
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| 17:22.10 | sylvanaar | no cheating |
| 17:22.28 | sylvanaar | you cant use anchors |
| 17:22.31 | Aezay | I don't get the frontier match at all >_> |
| 17:22.32 | Spellshaper1 | computer crashed :s |
| 17:22.35 | Spellshaper1 | ooh lua |
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| 17:23.30 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.match("10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50", "%f[%s]%s*(%d+)%s?%f[%S]")) |
| 17:23.31 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 60 |
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| 17:24.13 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.match("10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50", "%f[%d](%d+)%f[%D]")) |
| 17:24.14 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 10 |
| 17:25.07 | sylvanaar | lua> string.gsub("10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50", "%f[%d](%d+)%f[%D]", print) |
| 17:25.08 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 10, 40, 30, 60, 20, 50, 10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50, 6 |
| 17:26.15 | sylvanaar | lua> string.gsub("10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50", "(%d+)", print) |
| 17:26.15 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 10, 40, 30, 60, 20, 50, 10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50, 6 |
| 17:34.05 | NeoTron | http://notalwaysright.com/tell-jesus-its-time-to-rise-and-shineagain/1953 |
| 17:34.33 | NeoTron | a friend of mine is "Me" in that post |
| 17:35.05 | Lopeppeppy | I feel for this friend, I do |
| 17:35.35 | sylvanaar | lua> string.gsub("10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50", "%f[%d%s]%s*(%d+)%f[%D]", print) |
| 17:35.35 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 10, 40, 30, 60, 20, 10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50, 5 |
| 17:35.55 | NeoTron | me too. he works in a grocery store.. :P although he has some nice stories |
| 17:36.06 | sylvanaar | wow, it totally skipped 50 and matched everything else |
| 17:36.50 | Aezay | sylvanaar, when I run that in wow, using /dump, I get a complete different output |
| 17:37.51 | Aezay | oh wait, ignore me, its the same |
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| 17:41.51 | sylvanaar | lua> string.gsub("10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50", "%A(%d+)%A", function(a) print(a:trim()) end) |
| 17:41.52 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: luabot:1: attempt to call method 'trim' (a nil value) |
| 17:42.24 | sylvanaar | lua> string.gsub("10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50", "%A(%d+)%A", print) |
| 17:42.24 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 0, 3, 60, 0, 10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50, 4 |
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| 17:44.30 | sylvanaar | thus far %d+ has not been beat |
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| 17:45.01 | sylvanaar | we need patternmaster er... arrowmaster |
| 17:46.09 | ZorbaTHut | what are you trying to extract? :P |
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| 17:46.28 | sylvanaar | from "10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50" get 10, 60, 50 |
| 17:47.06 | durcyn | without using %w, or can we assume non-utf8 strings |
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| 17:47.51 | sylvanaar | how will that help |
| 17:48.12 | sylvanaar | 0-9 are the only chars you need to match |
| 17:49.36 | sylvanaar | either way works i guess - if you can do it with ansi only thats ok |
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| 17:53.28 | durcyn | it's that '30orly' that's breaking the patterns |
| 17:53.53 | sylvanaar | thats its job |
| 17:54.32 | durcyn | why would %w+ only match the first digit? |
| 17:55.39 | durcyn | lua> print(string.match("42asdf", "(%w+)")) |
| 17:55.40 | lua_bot | durcyn: 42asdf |
| 17:56.02 | durcyn | lua> print(string.match("10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50", "(%d+)%s%w+%s(%w+)(%d+)(%w+)")) |
| 17:56.02 | lua_bot | durcyn: 10, 3, 0, orly |
| 17:56.59 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.gsub("10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50", "(%w+)", tonumber)) |
| 17:56.59 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50, 6 |
| 17:58.17 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.gsub("10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50", "(%S+)", tonumber)) |
| 17:58.17 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50, 6 |
| 17:59.14 | sylvanaar | lua> string.gsub("10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50", "(%S+)", print) |
| 17:59.14 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 10, Pla40yer, 30orly, 60, for20, 50, 10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50, 6 |
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| 18:00.03 | sylvanaar | lua> string.gsub("10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50", "(%S+)", function(x) print(tonumber(x))) |
| 18:00.04 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near ')' |
| 18:00.15 | sylvanaar | lua> string.gsub("10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50", "(%S+)", function(x) print(tonumber(x))end) |
| 18:00.15 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 10, nil, nil, 60, nil, 50, 10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50, 6 |
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| 18:00.59 | sylvanaar | lua> print(string.gsub("10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50", "(%S+)", function(x) return tonumber(x) end)) |
| 18:00.59 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: 10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50, 6 |
| 18:01.07 | Lopeppeppy | gets lua_bot a room. |
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| 18:03.44 | sylvanaar | so, i can cheat by calling tonumber |
| 18:14.31 | Aezay | Cairenn, are you around? |
| 18:14.36 | Kaso | I cant help but think there is some way to do this with the frounteer pattern, but ive never properly gotten my head around that (also its not offical supported) |
| 18:16.31 | Aezay | lua> string.gsub(" ".."10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50".." ", "%s(%d+)%s", print) |
| 18:16.31 | lua_bot | Aezay: 10, 60, 50, 10 Pla40yer 30orly 60 for20 50 , 3 |
| 18:16.51 | Aezay | just pad the string with a space, and it works |
| 18:17.23 | Kaso | thats a good solution ^ |
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| 18:21.01 | sylvanaar | its the problem |
| 18:22.38 | sylvanaar | that like fixing a bug by running another program |
| 18:24.04 | sylvanaar | i remember swstats had added spaces to the wow globalstrings |
| 18:25.09 | sylvanaar | didnt it? to solve a similar problem |
| 18:26.04 | nevcairiel | didnt swstats just "fix" some of the format strings for crazy locale? |
| 18:26.17 | sylvanaar | i cant remember |
| 18:26.33 | sylvanaar | that sounds familiar |
| 18:26.35 | Kaso | oh i do recall something about swstats and global strings |
| 18:27.05 | Kaso | But there's a difference in altering your local copy for easier parsing and altering the global copy and presuming no-one else cares about that |
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| 18:32.00 | sylvanaar | SW FixLogStrings |
| 18:32.05 | sylvanaar | i dont have a copy though |
| 18:34.01 | Lopeppeppy | Might still be listed under outdated mods on one of the sites. |
| 18:45.40 | sylvanaar | it had to do with 's in the log messages |
| 18:45.56 | sylvanaar | Twilight's Hammer Ambassador's Flame Shock hits you for 1234 fire damage.) |
| 18:46.27 | Lopeppeppy | oh no! |
| 18:46.40 | sylvanaar | Twilight's Hammer Ambassador 's Nature's Grasp |
| 18:47.21 | sylvanaar | Twilight's Hammer Ambassador's Nature's Grasp |
| 18:47.32 | sylvanaar | thats from the file header comment |
| 18:47.51 | sylvanaar | it did lots more though |
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| 18:54.01 | Grum | Are there any people here who use the Opera browser? |
| 18:54.31 | Bruners | sometimes |
| 18:54.50 | Xinhuan | see other channel Bruners |
| 18:54.51 | Grum | could you perhaps paste how a page on the armory looks like (source of it) |
| 18:54.51 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 18:55.57 | Bruners | Grum: the source or a screenshot of the page? |
| 18:56.21 | Kraps | http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html |
| 18:56.58 | Dewin | Grum: Why would the source vary between browsers? Blizzard doing user-agent detection? |
| 18:57.10 | Xinhuan | yes Dewin |
| 18:57.27 | Xinhuan | its returning XSL for firefox and IE |
| 18:57.31 | Xinhuan | and html/js for chrome |
| 18:57.35 | Grum | sorry stuck in hardmode thorim atm |
| 18:59.22 | Bruners | http://paste.wowace.com/677/ |
| 18:59.27 | Osstia | Whats the worst part of that fight for you Grum? keeping the tank up? or the random stuff Sif throws around? |
| 19:00.22 | Grum | euuh atm random people dying |
| 19:00.30 | Grum | 48% at 7 stacks now |
| 19:01.01 | Xinhuan | Bruners, source of a character's page |
| 19:01.04 | Xinhuan | his gear |
| 19:01.10 | Xinhuan | not the main page |
| 19:01.58 | Osstia | ewww |
| 19:02.06 | Osstia | We've triggered it a few times on 10 man, but never on 25 |
| 19:02.18 | Grum | 10m is a oneshot |
| 19:02.27 | Osstia | we're going to start a few hard mode envcounters this week, so i am wondering where to start |
| 19:02.28 | Grum | 25m is significantly harder hehe |
| 19:02.34 | Osstia | ahh |
| 19:02.35 | Grum | 10 or 25m? |
| 19:02.36 | Osstia | good to know |
| 19:02.38 | Osstia | 25 |
| 19:02.46 | Bruners | http://paste.wowace.com/677/ |
| 19:02.46 | Grum | euuh none are doable ;) |
| 19:03.01 | Osstia | our focus is 25, a few of us just get together on off nights to do 10m |
| 19:03.13 | Osstia | we've been doing 1 tower FL, we're going to do 2 this week |
| 19:03.15 | Grum | yeah same |
| 19:03.26 | Grum | we do 4x4hours 25m and 3x4hours 10m |
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| 19:03.55 | Osstia | ahh, we're 3x4 in 25m, and like 1 9 hour raid for 10m |
| 19:04.12 | Osstia | i am so tred of yogg wipes from the past 2 weeks |
| 19:04.16 | Grum | hehehe |
| 19:04.21 | Grum | YS is easy :( |
| 19:04.23 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 19:04.32 | Kirov | I haven't even gotten to Yogg |
| 19:04.35 | Xinhuan | so opera receives the same stuff as chrome |
| 19:04.35 | Kirov | >.< |
| 19:04.41 | Osstia | we got Yogg last night 25 man |
| 19:04.53 | Grum | another try |
| 19:04.57 | Osstia | but saturday night in 10m, we were barely making it out of phase1 |
| 19:05.04 | Osstia | GL Grum |
| 19:10.32 | Dagmar | That would be because ten man is hard mode. |
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| 19:11.09 | Dagmar | 25-man has much more margin for error |
| 19:11.42 | nevcairiel | 25-man also has more potential for error |
| 19:11.58 | nevcairiel | also, 10 man ulduar is so damn easy |
| 19:12.01 | nevcairiel | compared to 25 |
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| 19:13.07 | Grum | euh 10m hardmode is so much easier than 25m |
| 19:14.11 | Dagmar | Ya'll just keep telling yourselves that |
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| 19:14.45 | nevcairiel | you don't have to tell yourself that |
| 19:14.50 | nevcairiel | you can just go there and see it happen |
| 19:14.52 | Grum | i do both 10 and 25m |
| 19:15.00 | Grum | we did 2/4 25m hardmodes within 3 tries |
| 19:15.06 | Grum | errrr 2/4 10m hardmodes :) |
| 19:15.35 | Grum | we just couldnt nail freya+3 so we oneshotted +2 (we did a lot of +3 tries, and brightleaf gone makes it SO much easier) |
| 19:15.42 | Grum | and mimiron is just *INSANE* |
| 19:16.55 | Osstia | mimiron is my favorite fight in there |
| 19:16.57 | Osstia | its fun |
| 19:17.33 | Grum | try hardmode |
| 19:19.43 | Kirov | I loath Mimiron, mainly because it's the first fight that really seems to show which people in the raid are idiots. |
| 19:20.09 | Dagmar | Standing in the blue fire isn't a clue? |
| 19:20.20 | Kirov | I've done phase 4 now with 5 people on a number of occations. |
| 19:20.34 | Kirov | tends to take a while. |
| 19:20.39 | Hjalte | I are was cliccking helthastone but lag and didnt work! |
| 19:21.23 | Dagmar | So what you're saying is that it's the new Safety Dance |
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| 19:21.47 | Kirov | We have one healer that everyone on Vent will be yelling her name and she'll just stand in a missle while she finishes casting a heal. |
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| 19:22.00 | Kirov | Her response is usually "you don't have to yell" |
| 19:22.19 | Kirov | (our response being "aparently we do since that didn't get you to move either.") |
| 19:22.36 | Dagmar | Hmmm... A shame those transforming wands take awhile to cast |
| 19:22.39 | Lopeppeppy | Dock her DKP every time she stands in the fire? |
| 19:23.01 | Kirov | Lopeppeppy - yeah, I wish they would |
| 19:24.02 | Dagmar | Find someone to replace her if she can't figure out to interrupt a cast |
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| 19:24.53 | Lopeppeppy | That's how we got people to raise their spell details for... oh, something or another, we docked them points when they stood in the fire. |
| 19:25.13 | Lopeppeppy | Turns out a lot of them had spell details cranked all the way down and just could not physically see it. |
| 19:25.24 | Lopeppeppy | Or had their screens zoomed in funny, and needed to be taught to zoom out. |
| 19:25.30 | Dagmar | Did they just start raiding last week? |
| 19:25.38 | Osstia | we learned that on KT months ago |
| 19:25.42 | Dagmar | Seriously, WTF |
| 19:25.44 | Osstia | had people missign voidzones |
| 19:25.58 | Lopeppeppy | Dagmar, this was back some time ago, and yes, some were new raiders. |
| 19:26.07 | Dagmar | If you turn spell effects down all the way there's plenty of _Karazhan_ fights you'll not survive to the end of |
| 19:26.39 | Dagmar | Heck, I'm suprised it's even still an option to have them down that far while inside instances |
| 19:27.24 | Dagmar | I guess it could be worse |
| 19:27.50 | Dagmar | The next time we run Naxx I'm going to have to convince my guild leader to be rude and ask two people to just sit outside the instance during Heigan |
| 19:27.55 | Dagmar | They're keyboard-turners. |
| 19:28.26 | Dagmar | I'd like to eventually see the Safety Dance achievement, and if that means doing it with eight people, so be it. |
| 19:28.50 | Dagmar | I'm a bit tired of seeing an angel popping up the _very first time_ into zone 4 there. |
| 19:29.32 | Dagmar | ...them swearing "No, I'm not keyboard turning" but I can see their little toon doing the step-step-step thing that happens while you keyboard turn |
| 19:31.28 | End | er, doesn't it do the step thing if you turn using the mouse too? |
| 19:32.00 | Grum | athere is no stepstepstep thing ! |
| 19:32.44 | Dagmar | \If you have your mouse sensitivity set to an alarmingly low level it might, but you know it's really, really obvious when someone's keyboard turning during the Heigan fight. |
| 19:33.00 | Dagmar | THey freakin die because they can't get to zone 4/1, turn around, and go back the other way in time. |
| 19:33.18 | Dagmar | If they were smart they'd just face Heigan and strafe, but that seems to be a hunter-specific tactic. |
| 19:33.46 | End | even if I spin my character around quickly it tries to do the feet wiggle |
| 19:34.07 | Dagmar | Grum: Get two machines in the same room with each other, and have one person turn with the keyboard and then move as opposed to spining with mouselook |
| 19:34.14 | Dagmar | Trust me you can tell the differnce |
| 19:34.24 | End | ah, well, that might be different |
| 19:34.42 | Lopeppeppy | So many healers use their keyboards with macros for healing, it's hard to swap into a mouse-mode for fast-tuned fights. |
| 19:35.15 | stolenlegacy | uses mouseover macros |
| 19:35.19 | Dagmar | Yeah, they're not listening about the strafing suggestion either, so frankly, I'd rather them be outside and we have a shot at the achievement |
| 19:35.36 | Dagmar | If ya die in <10s it's not like you're going to be much missed. |
| 19:35.37 | Grum | but you are talking about Naxx |
| 19:36.03 | Arrowmaster | heh safety dance is one of the few naxx achievements i got before i quit raiding |
| 19:36.08 | Arrowmaster | so easy |
| 19:36.12 | Dagmar | I'm actually talking about a much larger problem of failing to change tactics to accomodate the fight. |
| 19:36.12 | End | well, if someone can not get hit on the dance, I don't care if they're keyboard turning or not ;-p |
| 19:36.30 | Grum | you know yuo can actually get hit |
| 19:36.32 | Grum | you just cant die |
| 19:36.36 | End | indeed |
| 19:36.39 | Arrowmaster | i would cast shadowbolts between positions on the dance |
| 19:36.42 | End | but getting hit is being bad |
| 19:36.42 | Grum | ea your healers suck |
| 19:36.43 | Dagmar | These two blokes get hit _and_ die |
| 19:36.48 | End | also |
| 19:36.57 | End | it can deal multiple hits at a time |
| 19:37.04 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I can't fire steady shot during hte dance, but that's abou tit |
| 19:37.05 | End | it -can- "one" shot you |
| 19:37.14 | Dagmar | I strafe so I don't really even have to stop shooting |
| 19:37.26 | Grum | you only have instacasts? |
| 19:37.43 | Dagmar | The last time we went I was strafing/shooting, *and* dropping smoke grenades so people could see where the center of the zones was |
| 19:38.00 | Grum | dude, you are still in Naxx |
| 19:38.08 | Dagmar | Grum: Steady Shot is a 2.0s cast, but all the other important shots for BM hunters are insta |
| 19:38.25 | Arrowmaster | i just memorized the possitions and would run ahead, stop exactly on the line so i was directly next to the next zone then start casting |
| 19:39.02 | Arrowmaster | its seriously not hard to remember the possitions when all you have to do in that phase is run |
| 19:39.26 | Dagmar | I'm not "still in" Naxx. |
| 19:39.43 | Dagmar | There's no point in trying to explain something in terms more complex than necessary |
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| 19:40.05 | Dagmar | Just about everyone is _famiiliar_ with Naxx, so the chances of a "nod and smile" are lower |
| 19:40.39 | Grum | aws you missed that memo :P |
| 19:40.44 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Well, some people kinda suck at spatial reliationships and zone 2 is narrowish |
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| 19:41.12 | Dagmar | The smoke grenades were clearly helping all but the "helpless" |
| 19:41.55 | Arrowmaster | make those people stand outside the door and have a healer and tank just 2 man it |
| 19:42.44 | Dagmar | I'm going to try and talk the guild leader into "suggesting" they just hang out outside the instance during that one |
| 19:43.07 | Arrowmaster | there shouldnt be anything wrong with just locking them outside the door that drops down |
| 19:44.02 | Dagmar | The purple stuff isn't an "everywhere except here is lethal" effect? |
| 19:44.09 | Dagmar | Fair enough then |
| 19:44.34 | Arrowmaster | purple stuff? |
| 19:44.56 | Dagmar | Purple, green, might be plaid. The nasty stuff wot comes out of the floor. |
| 19:45.00 | Dagmar | I don't look at it much anymore. |
| 19:45.11 | Dagmar | I'm too busy playing waltz music in my head during that phase. ;) |
| 19:45.42 | Arrowmaster | i still have the 40 man naxx ddr video somebody from wowace made |
| 19:45.56 | Dagmar | That's not on YouTube? |
| 19:46.05 | Arrowmaster | might be |
| 19:46.21 | Dagmar | Oh sweet I think it is |
| 19:46.26 | Dagmar | It sounds hilarious |
| 19:46.45 | haste | Arrowmaster: with refusion? |
| 19:46.51 | haste | Arrowmaster: warlock PoV :p ? |
| 19:46.51 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 19:46.57 | Arrowmaster | yours |
| 19:47.12 | haste | no, I'm one of the healers in it :p |
| 19:48.58 | Arrowmaster | HeiganRevolution |
| 19:49.03 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats still the best one |
| 19:49.12 | Arrowmaster | none of the other videos come close to the effects done imho |
| 19:51.01 | Dagmar | This one, I take it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St-majy6m_4 |
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| 19:51.30 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 19:51.38 | Dagmar | Hmm... |
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| 19:59.00 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: in 30 minutes it will be uploaded to my webserver |
| 19:59.48 | Arrowmaster | unless haste still has it somewhere online |
| 20:02.22 | haste | might be on warcraftmovies |
| 20:02.35 | haste | or on our web-server, but I don't remember the movie folder :p |
| 20:02.39 | Arrowmaster | i still have the hakkar mechanical yeti video |
| 20:02.46 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 20:02.53 | haste | haha |
| 20:03.04 | Kaso | that was amusing |
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| 20:04.17 | Arrowmaster | i wana know how much hp that yeti had |
| 20:05.24 | Lopeppeppy | a meeeeelion |
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| 20:05.39 | Lunessa | station |
| 20:05.49 | Cairenn | morning Lunessa |
| 20:06.30 | Lunessa | Hi Cairenn - I'll have to owe you drinks at some other event. I was unable to get BlizzCon tix. |
| 20:06.40 | Lopeppeppy | cuddles Lunessa. |
| 20:06.42 | Cairenn | Lunessa: no worries luv :) |
| 20:06.51 | Lunessa | :D |
| 20:06.57 | Cairenn | shame I won't get to meet you though |
| 20:07.03 | Lopeppeppy | There's another round of ticketing, but I doubt it will go any differently. |
| 20:07.48 | Kaso | Arrowmaster iirc the yeti didnt take any damage, that was sorta how it worked |
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| 20:08.26 | haste | yep |
| 20:08.34 | Arrowmaster | i didnt actually get a chance to do hakkar 1.0 |
| 20:08.58 | Arrowmaster | but i do remember how broken that fight was |
| 20:09.26 | Arrowmaster | you could still jump or move on the life drains to avoid all but the first tick after they changed the fight |
| 20:10.12 | Qzot | Lunessa: From what I've heard, very few were able to get BC tickets. |
| 20:10.52 | Lunessa | Qzot: I went to 8,400 in the queue, and I hit "purchase" as soon as they went on sale. Tix sold out while I was 4,300 in the queue. |
| 20:10.53 | Lopeppeppy | 5k tickets, so probably about... 1k purchasers. |
| 20:10.56 | Lunessa | AFK a sec |
| 20:11.46 | Arrowmaster | damn ive got some old videos in this folder |
| 20:12.00 | Arrowmaster | AQ gate event stuff from my server |
| 20:12.18 | tlund | anyone know if i get the pets/mounts and such if i pay for the DTV internet stream? :) |
| 20:12.27 | Lopeppeppy | I couldn't have taken an AQ video, my server froze to death for that. |
| 20:12.38 | Lopeppeppy | tlund, it's been confirmed that a pet will come with the internet stream. |
| 20:12.51 | Arrowmaster | so did ours |
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| 20:12.58 | tlund | Lopeppeppy: cool. maby ill shell out the 40 bucks then :) |
| 20:13.21 | Lopeppeppy | A very great many people will. :) |
| 20:13.26 | tlund | does anyone know where they do their streaming from?! i need to make sure we peer with the upstreams ISP :) |
| 20:13.40 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon/partners/directv.xml is all the info so far. |
| 20:13.41 | tlund | is in EU |
| 20:13.57 | tlund | yeah, that page will NEVER have that kind of info :) |
| 20:14.06 | Lopeppeppy | That's the best I can offer. *shrug* |
| 20:14.22 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think they even know yet themselves. |
| 20:15.01 | tlund | directtv should know |
| 20:15.19 | tlund | but i don't forsee success trying to ask them. :) |
| 20:15.34 | Arrowmaster | hahaha i fucking have antiarcs kaelthas video wheres hes shooting the ads with a steam tonk in phase1 |
| 20:15.48 | Lunessa | Hahaha |
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| 20:17.20 | Taroven | O_o |
| 20:17.33 | Taroven | That sounds... so fucking awesome. XD |
| 20:19.13 | Lunessa | Heh, one of the things I liked most about our guild in beta was a chance to see other nutters play this game in ways that hadn't occurred to me. Like ... steam tonks for ads. |
| 20:25.08 | Lunessa | Are the forums safe, or should I continue to avoid them on a sick-day? |
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| 20:30.11 | Lopeppeppy | Avoid 'em, too much QQ. |
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| 20:35.51 | Dagmar | Lunessa: You know, we could report you for having stolen Lunessa's account information |
| 20:36.11 | Dagmar | Pfft. Asking if _any_ MMO forums are "safe". |
| 20:36.42 | Dagmar | ...like we're really going to believe it's Lunessa behind the keyboard. |
| 20:37.23 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I plead the case that I'm on meds with a drowsiness and dizziness side-effect. |
| 20:37.46 | Dagmar | Ah okay |
| 20:37.52 | Dagmar | Hope you get better soon then |
| 20:38.26 | alestane | Lunessa: http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20080227 |
| 20:38.59 | Dagmar | Damn you beat me to it |
| 20:39.16 | Lunessa | alestane: How did I know which you were going to link... it was that or john gabriel's greater internet fuckwad theroy. |
| 20:39.29 | Industrial | lua> a={b='foo',c='bar'} print(#a) |
| 20:39.29 | lua_bot | Industrial: 0 |
| 20:39.32 | alestane | Which I have seen him draw on a blackboard. |
| 20:39.33 | Industrial | righto |
| 20:39.37 | Dagmar | We just picked up two IRL friends into our guild this last week |
| 20:39.56 | Dagmar | THey thought I was joking when I said "Rule #1: Do NOT read the General Forums if you want to continue playing and having fun." |
| 20:39.59 | Cairenn | Anyone have a saved version of the Failoc graphic? |
| 20:40.05 | alestane | Industrial: I thought you'd know by now that # only counts array entries. |
| 20:40.45 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: http://arrowmaster.net/HeiganRevolution.wmv |
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| 20:41.20 | alestane | Unless you want to use something like setmetatable(a, {__len = function (t) n = 0; for k in pairs(t) do n = n + 1; end return n; end }) |
| 20:41.21 | Lunessa | alestane: Heh - there's a reason I make no secret of my identity on the net. I'd be too tempted to be a bigger fuckwad than I already am. |
| 20:41.50 | foxlit | whee, naxx40! |
| 20:42.18 | alestane | I found out that they were coming to MIT the day before they arrived, and swiftly browbeat my manager into letting me out early that day. |
| 20:42.23 | Industrial | alestane: I'm just checking it ... |
| 20:43.17 | foxlit | On the other hand, that DDR stuff is entirely misplaced. |
| 20:44.20 | Lunessa | alestane: Last time I was in Boston I was hanging with Harvard types who thought MIT student/faculty were strange. And yet we were all going to MacWorld. /facepalm |
| 20:45.02 | Arrowmaster | last time i was in boston i was only there long enough for a new years eve party |
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| 20:45.45 | Arrowmaster | yes i spent like $200-300 on plane tickets just to goto boston for like 2 days so i could goto a new years eve party with a friend |
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| 20:47.51 | Dagmar | That video is great |
| 20:47.58 | Dagmar | Thank you very much |
| 20:49.09 | Lunessa | "I'm normally wouldn't ask someone this. But I'm am saying this as politely, and as respectfully as I can... Are you mildly retarded? " LOL |
| 20:49.28 | Arrowmaster | i managed to find videos of my guilds first rag and nef kills, wow |
| 20:49.28 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: That's totally normal and understandable. |
| 20:51.08 | Thrae | Well WoWInterface must be having serious bandwidth problems without using Flash like Curse does, because, y'know, Flash is the future of addon downloading. |
| 20:51.13 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: plus dj tiesto was at the club we went to, totally worth the $400 |
| 20:51.44 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: wowinterface is using a java aplet |
| 20:51.45 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: Totally. |
| 20:52.31 | jnwhiteh | _was_ |
| 20:52.53 | porkbun | flash? eeeew |
| 20:53.35 | Thrae | Java applets I don't mind, Flash I do mind. Until they make a 64-bit version of Flash to go along with my browser, I'll have to keep inputing these stupid captchas... |
| 20:53.53 | kd3 | flash 64 is out... |
| 20:53.54 | Arrowmaster | theres a 64bit version of flash |
| 20:53.58 | Arrowmaster | it just sucks i think |
| 20:54.04 | kd3 | working fine here |
| 20:54.17 | kd3 | http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ |
| 20:55.17 | Thrae | That'd be helpful if my workstation wasn't Vista. |
| 20:55.45 | Lunessa | So much love for Satrina Buff Frames. And I barely do anything special for them. |
| 20:56.47 | foxlit | Is there anything actually useful that's not done by the default buff UI? |
| 20:57.05 | Dagmar | Making specific debuffs enormous |
| 20:57.28 | foxlit | Ah, so we're not talking about the player buffs? |
| 20:57.37 | foxlit | But rather some sort of UF-related buff display? |
| 20:57.50 | Lunessa | SBF allows you to individually manage frames for selected units if you like. |
| 20:58.09 | Lunessa | And contains lots and lots of filtering tools. |
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| 20:58.50 | foxlit | Mmkay. |
| 20:58.56 | Lunessa | So, I could - for example - create a frame for the target unit that listed only the buffs/debuffs that I really needed to see - like my own poisons if I were a rogue. |
| 20:59.20 | Nechckn_AFK | +. |
| 20:59.24 | Nechckn_AFK | .........................................................`. |
| 20:59.32 | foxlit | I wrote my own UF/stuff addon back in the limbo period before BC |
| 20:59.39 | Lunessa | It flexible, and the flexibility is it's best strength. |
| 20:59.53 | Lunessa | And I know I'm not using it to its real potential. |
| 21:00.06 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.sophos.com/klingon-anti-virus/ |
| 21:00.19 | foxlit | How is it that a visual addon like that has no screenshots? :/ |
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| 21:01.14 | Lunessa | foxlit: Because the apperance depends on config, and Satria likes ugly text/numbers for his own UI? |
| 21:01.33 | foxlit | A screenshot of the configuration interface wouldn't be out of place. |
| 21:01.43 | foxlit | Assuming there is a configuration interface. |
| 21:01.45 | foxlit | I'm lazy and stuff. |
| 21:02.28 | Lunessa | I'll take one for you if you like. |
| 21:02.56 | Lunessa | launches the game client. |
| 21:08.54 | Lunessa | foxlit: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w227/matt_converse/WoW%20Interface%20Gallery/Unkle-UI-05-18-2009.jpg |
| 21:09.47 | foxlit | Lunessa: thanks :) |
| 21:12.16 | foxlit | Hm, any suggestions to detect whether I can mount up in Dalaran without requiring localization for subzone names? |
| 21:12.22 | Lunessa | I use it to replace my totem frame, I use it to provide notice for weapon/shield buffs, and I use it to notify me of Maelstrom Weapon status. And to make my damned debuffs fikkin huge. |
| 21:13.54 | Kirov | foxlit - wait for blizz to fix IsFlyable() |
| 21:14.25 | foxlit | Yeah, well, they haven't announced that they're going to |
| 21:14.50 | Kirov | Considering it's every 10th post on the damn UI forums, my guess is they've noticed. |
| 21:15.41 | foxlit | I'm not convinced they actually care |
| 21:16.08 | foxlit | i.e. it just might be in some "we'll fix this when pigs fly" list |
| 21:16.35 | Kirov | I'd guess it's high on their list, but somewhere after the next patch. |
| 21:16.49 | Lunessa | Bah, the issue is they forgot to think forward when adding flying mounts about how free 3-d movement trivializes content. |
| 21:16.57 | Kirov | It seems like a big bug, basically the "flyable" definition on server / client is different. |
| 21:17.53 | foxlit | -- << Do Not Localize >> Programmer: Remove at future date. |
| 21:18.24 | Kirov | Lunessa - You're forgetting the good parts of flying mounts though. I appretiate the dynamic sky domes a lot more now. |
| 21:19.45 | Lunessa | Oh, me too. I just chuckle over how they painted themselves into a content corner by adding flying movement and then had to come up with 10 more levels of quests where flying would make some of it trivial. So we get lame "no fly zones" and "cold weather flying." |
| 21:21.05 | Kirov | Well, there's plenty of fictionalization they can contiue for that. |
| 21:21.15 | Dagmar | THey could have just as easily added aeriel threats |
| 21:21.27 | foxlit | Except that's an even sillier design |
| 21:21.37 | foxlit | Remember those flying outland town guards? |
| 21:21.47 | Kirov | Low Oxygen Flying, High Wind Speed Flying, Anti Airgnome Flying |
| 21:21.47 | alestane | And continues to be an issue for the people who are "suitable level" to fly. |
| 21:21.51 | foxlit | And notice how they didn't renew their contracts? :) |
| 21:22.47 | Kirov | Anti-Airgnomes ... hmm |
| 21:23.15 | Kirov | pictures kamikazi gnomes. |
| 21:23.29 | Dagmar | They're economical. |
| 21:23.39 | Dagmar | Either they hit the target, or there's one less gnome. It's win-win. |
| 21:23.54 | Kirov | Well, there's always one less gnome. |
| 21:26.09 | Lunessa | Gnome Flak Guns... self-renewing ammo supplies, just add conjured bread! |
| 21:32.17 | foxlit | Hm, so I'm considering fixing [flying] manually in some conditions |
| 21:32.29 | foxlit | s/ying/yable/ |
| 21:35.07 | Lunessa | Like what, a table of places where [flyable] isn't and a check for requisite riding and cold weather flying skills? |
| 21:35.31 | foxlit | Something along those lines |
| 21:35.39 | foxlit | Except I'd really, really like to avoid localization. |
| 21:36.43 | Lunessa | Is there away to get sub-zone data without localized names? |
| 21:37.01 | foxlit | No. Which makes Dalaran troublesome. |
| 21:37.55 | Lunessa | Then I don't know how you can avoid localizing for map data. |
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| 21:38.15 | kd3 | thus, an array of coords that are flyable in dalaran? |
| 21:39.00 | Lunessa | I think Recompense mapped them out for Livestock - at least, for the sewer tunnel. |
| 21:39.00 | kd3 | s/an array/a bounding box/ |
| 21:40.16 | foxlit | kd3: Perhaps |
| 21:43.58 | Lunessa | Riding skill, does it have a numeric id, or is it referenced as a string? |
| 21:44.46 | foxlit | It's a spell. |
| 21:45.24 | Lunessa | Yeah, I just looked it up. :) So you never have to localize that. |
| 21:47.14 | foxlit | at least as far as Cold Weather Flying is concerned. |
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| 21:59.11 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/05/18/funny-pictures-cat-in-the-window/ |
| 22:01.00 | Lunessa | foxlit: You just have to check for (at least) Expert Riding and Cold Weather flying, no? Or are you going to rely on the user not having any flying mounts if they don't have the skill? |
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| 22:16.55 | Cairenn | BlizzCon Ticket Raffle on WoWI: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23763 |
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| 22:20.06 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 22:23.14 | Lunessa | :D |
| 22:24.18 | Thunder_Child | ~seen zhinjio |
| 22:24.23 | purl | zhinjio is currently on #wowuidev (5d 3h 56m) #arl (5d 3h 56m) #wowace (5d 3h 56m) #curseforge (5d 3h 56m). Has said a total of 64 messages. Is idling for 2d 56m 18s, last said: 'hmm, ok'. |
| 22:24.42 | Thunder_Child | ~poke Zhinjio |
| 22:24.43 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Zhinjio, pokes Zhinjio repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 22:25.35 | foxlit | growls at partial regex support in Lua |
| 22:25.37 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> The topic for #WoWUIDev is: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.1.x ToC: 30100 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | BlizzCon ticket raffle: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23763 |
| 22:25.44 | foxlit | wru, match A, but not BA? |
| 22:26.36 | foxlit | lua> ("[noflyable] foo"):match("%[[^%]]*(n?o?)flyable"); |
| 22:26.37 | Thunder_Child | but i dont wanna have to do a little dance Cairenn |
| 22:26.37 | lua_bot | foxlit: No output |
| 22:26.44 | Cairenn | then don't :p |
| 22:26.46 | Kraps | i think im gonna die. my computer seems to have a sudden aversion to connecting to routers, 1.5 hours on the phone go nowhere |
| 22:26.53 | foxlit | lua> ("[noflyable] foo"):match("%[[^%]]-(n?o?)flyable"); |
| 22:26.54 | lua_bot | foxlit: no |
| 22:27.32 | foxlit | Doesn't distinguish "" from nil. |
| 22:27.36 | foxlit | lua> return nil |
| 22:27.38 | lua_bot | foxlit: nil |
| 22:27.50 | foxlit | I stand corrected. |
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| 22:28.43 | Lunessa | Cairenn: I'm dancing, I'm dancing. Shut your eyes folks, it's not a pretty sight! |
| 22:28.47 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:29.11 | Lunessa | Trust me, Star Wars Kid looks better flopping around! |
| 22:30.25 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, thanks for that visual image |
| 22:30.40 | Kraps | The Technical Support Department is the personnel in charge to every client, with installed services, a way to canalize every question and problem about services failures, technical modifications or questions about functionalities of the service. |
| 22:30.41 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: I aim to disturb. |
| 22:31.04 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, so do i....and it's only supposed to work one way damit! |
| 22:31.08 | Lunessa | Kraps: is that the result of a a bad translation? |
| 22:31.18 | Kraps | spanish telecom company with an English website |
| 22:31.35 | Lunessa | And a really bad translator. |
| 22:31.43 | Kraps | yeah |
| 22:33.03 | Kraps | wtf is "canalize"? |
| 22:33.32 | foxlit | Dig canals through someone's corpse, restoring health using healthy physical exercise. |
| 22:33.42 | Lunessa | I think they meant analyze. |
| 22:34.29 | Kraps | Lunessa: big leap |
| 22:34.48 | Lunessa | Kraps: Leaping to conclusions is the only exercise I get. |
| 22:35.47 | Kraps | lets do an activity: http://www.speedtest.net/index.php and link your results |
| 22:36.26 | Kraps | i'll go first http://www.speedtest.net/result/476558091.png |
| 22:37.04 | Dagmar | TimeI win |
| 22:37.11 | Kraps | (what i'm all belligerent cuz of the f-ed up routers) |
| 22:38.11 | Dagmar | http://www.speedtest.net/result/476559714.png |
| 22:38.31 | Lunessa | http://www.speedtest.net/result/476559773.png |
| 22:39.07 | Kraps | Dagmar: ~200 miles? |
| 22:39.16 | Lunessa | Wow. Comcast really does suck. |
| 22:39.44 | Dagmar | Not done yet. Lemme hit a link that goes over the I2 backbone. :) |
| 22:39.48 | Cide | http://www.speedtest.net/result/476560666.png |
| 22:39.51 | Dagmar | http://www.speedtest.net/result/476560657.png |
| 22:39.51 | Cide | do I win? |
| 22:40.27 | Kraps | did you see mine? :p |
| 22:40.31 | Kraftman | im supposedly on 20meg http://www.speedtest.net/result/476560787.png |
| 22:40.37 | Cide | yes, did you see mine? |
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| 22:40.50 | Kraftman | did you see mine :'( |
| 22:41.07 | Kraps | oh crap i missclicked Cide damn |
| 22:41.35 | Dagmar | Kraftman: You've got 20 mege-bit |
| 22:41.38 | Hjalte | http://www.speedtest.net/result/476561547.png |
| 22:41.52 | Kraps | Kraftman: you win slowest :D |
| 22:42.10 | Kraftman | Dagmar: yup, and its going at 2 |
| 22:42.14 | Hjalte | I win so far, yeah? :P |
| 22:42.21 | Kraps | hehe |
| 22:42.39 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure the limiting factor on my end is that I'm on a laptop. |
| 22:42.58 | Trela | http://www.speedtest.net/result/476562168.png |
| 22:43.53 | Dagmar | ...becaue I'm at work, at the network operations center at said uni. |
| 22:43.54 | Trela | 10mb Download, 1mb Upload. My upload is low because I have a crappy cord running to the modem. |
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| 22:43.54 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 22:44.26 | Dagmar | I has a bandwidth. |
| 22:45.20 | Ackis | http://www.speedtest.net/result/476563354.png |
| 22:46.06 | Kraftman | woo! i tried a server in france and got up to 5.75Mb/s |
| 22:46.12 | Kraftman | better than 2 at least >< |
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| 22:49.25 | Kirov | http://www.speedtest.net/result/476565212.png |
| 22:49.35 | Kirov | My upload speed is slow right now |
| 22:49.49 | Kraps | cheater :p |
| 22:50.00 | Kirov | What |
| 22:50.01 | Kraps | "business" |
| 22:50.13 | Kirov | :) |
| 22:50.19 | Kirov | My home connection is the same speed |
| 22:50.20 | foxlit | !api ZONE |
| 22:50.21 | lua_bot | Found 14 possible matches for 'ZONE'. Please be more specific |
| 22:50.29 | foxlit | (does it search events?) |
| 22:50.43 | foxlit | !event ZONE |
| 22:50.58 | Kraps | Kirov: nice |
| 22:51.27 | ZorbaTHut | http://www.speedtest.net/result/476566118.png behold, my speed! |
| 22:51.57 | ZorbaTHut | (I'm actually surprised it's that high, considering what I'm doing right now - it's actually 3.0/0.5, but I'm using it pretty heavily at the moment) |
| 22:52.29 | Kraps | supper tiem |
| 22:52.40 | ZorbaTHut | also they totally deserve more than four stars, I love these guys |
| 22:52.43 | Kirov | <50 mi from San Fran, and your connection is that slow? |
| 22:52.49 | ZorbaTHut | kirov, it's DSL |
| 22:53.03 | Kirov | pah, I had 10Mb DSL 9 years ago. |
| 22:53.30 | ZorbaTHut | and I love these guys because I have eight static IPs for free, and I've called tech support and gotten them to read OpenBSD download sites to me over the phone, and I had one of their techs call me up and apologize for bad service |
| 22:53.38 | ZorbaTHut | totally makes up for slightly lackluster speed |
| 22:53.41 | Kirov | Granted, it was here were I'm paying for 20Mb cable and getting 50 |
| 22:54.02 | Kirov | ZorbaTHut - that's true |
| 22:54.11 | Dagmar | There's a degree to which Thou Shalt Not Snub Unix Customers in the bay area |
| 22:54.21 | Kirov | Our 50Mb connection here at work is awesome ... except when it goes down for a week at a time once a month. |
| 22:54.23 | Dagmar | ...Or Thy DSL Company Shall Surely Fail. |
| 22:54.36 | ZorbaTHut | I think I've had more downtime from the power company than from my internet provider :) |
| 22:55.21 | Dagmar | Just you wait! There'll be internet blackouts and brownouts soon! |
| 22:55.33 | Dagmar | Some consultants said so and it was on a web site so it must be true! |
| 22:56.11 | Kirov | We've already had internet blackouts. |
| 22:56.21 | Kirov | They're called Comcast fucked up |
| 22:56.40 | Kirov | Or a disgruntled ex employee cuts the wires in to San francisco |
| 22:56.52 | Dagmar | You need more than one |
| 22:57.01 | Dagmar | You really kinda need a black-ops agency |
| 22:57.25 | Kirov | Actually, that was my favorite thing about living in San Francisco and Santa Barbara during the various CA "brownouts" / "blackouts" |
| 22:57.29 | Dagmar | I still find it questionable that they're acting like it was "some random guys" who cut four very specific links at the same time |
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| 22:57.44 | Kirov | Miraculously, neither of those two cities had any problems while the rest of the state flickered. |
| 22:57.54 | Dagmar | SF had brownouts. |
| 22:58.49 | Dagmar | I was rather quickly the envy of some of my friends because of my "paranoid" system of UPSes and surge suppressors, which were because I'd just moved there from Nashville, where the spring/summer electrical storms are something Californians only seen in movies. |
| 22:58.55 | Kirov | Dagmar - When I was working downtown SF, we had power outages regularly. Since most of their power is run underground, the hubs would flood and short on a semi-regular basis. |
| 22:59.55 | Kirov | We had that happen 4 times in a row one weekend, completely fried our Perforce servers as it rebooted mid boot 3 times after the first one drained the 24 hour UPS |
| 23:00.20 | Kirov | As luck would have it, our phone lines went down at the same time so our IT didn't know it happened till 8am Monday morning. |
| 23:00.28 | Dagmar | My bachelor lamp went out |
| 23:00.35 | Dagmar | Everything else was on battery |
| 23:03.49 | mikma | http://www.gotfuturama.com/cgi-bin/imageview.cgi?/img/ForNews/zoidberg_tattoo.jpg |
| 23:06.11 | Kirov | lawl |
| 23:10.25 | foxlit | Dalaran is the only sanctuary in Northrend? |
| 23:10.31 | foxlit | (Or is it?) |
| 23:11.07 | foxlit | It's not. Silly Argent Tournament Grounds. |
| 23:26.26 | Lunessa | Silly! |
| 23:27.41 | Lunessa | Ok, so I'm trying to learn to be a DK tank - is Plague Strike and Death & Decay a silly opener for quick aggro generation. Note: I haven't touched a DK since beta, and I've never really been a tank. |
| 23:27.42 | Repo | Announcement from my owner (ckknight): I can't let you do that, aesir |
| 23:28.07 | Dagmar | Icy Fist and Green Thingie first. |
| 23:28.26 | foxlit | "I can't let you do that" can only be followed by "Daisy, daisy..." |
| 23:28.29 | Lunessa | green thingy - Plague Strike? |
| 23:28.33 | Dagmar | D&D, two diseeases, then spread them. |
| 23:28.41 | foxlit | Lunessa: you can drop D&D and pull mobs through it |
| 23:28.42 | Dagmar | ...then "whatever lights up" |
| 23:28.56 | aesir | Open the IRC podcast doors, Hal. |
| 23:29.00 | Lunessa | Thanks. :) |
| 23:29.06 | foxlit | You're then left with three runes, which cover icy touch, plague strike and pestilence. |
| 23:29.23 | Lunessa | I'm learned a song, Dave. Do you want to hear it? |
| 23:29.53 | foxlit | If you're still tanking multiple mobs by the time your runes come back, blood probably becomes Blood Boil, and Unholy/Frost become your two-rune ability against the primary target. |
| 23:29.58 | aesir | I'm actually a little spooked. If you don't mind, I'll be floating over to the other space station now. |
| 23:30.37 | Lunessa | foxlit: Thanks. I appreciate the tip. |
| 23:56.03 | foxlit | Meh, nasty. |
| 23:56.27 | foxlit | I'd have to poll map position continually to do what I want |
| 23:57.33 | *** join/#wowuidev dardack (n=chatzill@72-255-44-134.client.stsn.net) |
| 23:58.20 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, you messing with the pitbull file? |
| 23:58.27 | ckknight | ? |
| 23:58.29 | ckknight | no |
| 23:58.39 | Thunder_Child | cc wont let me DL it, keeps saying it failes |
| 23:58.43 | Thunder_Child | only addon doing it |
| 23:58.46 | Thunder_Child | fails* |
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