| 00:00.28 | kmcguire | !>@?!># |
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| 00:05.46 | kmcguire | foxlit. I knew a guy one time. He made a lot of money. He had a ARM microcontroller. He had a hell of a time programming it. Mainly, because he just could not drive himself to dig in and do the grunt work and find out what was going wrong. |
| 00:06.10 | kmcguire | He had lots of reasons.. Drove me nuts. |
| 00:06.51 | foxlit | I don't quite see a connection |
| 00:07.24 | kmcguire | Neither did he. |
| 00:08.09 | foxlit | Between that story and me? I would imagine he wouldn't break the fourth wall thus :) |
| 00:11.24 | Cloudwolf | ok what is the order of visiblity? if i create 1 texture called a and then another frame with a texture called b and call b after a will be show ontop of a? |
| 00:15.10 | foxlit | if textures are in different frames, the texture in the frame that's on top of the other frame shows on top of the other texture. |
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| 00:17.18 | Cloudwolf | well yeah... .... |
| 00:21.51 | foxlit | You're welcome to refine your question :) |
| 00:24.43 | Cloudwolf | My question is questioning hte order of frame creation and which will show ontop of which not if the frame is on a higher level |
| 00:24.52 | Cloudwolf | do the newest frames get created on a higher level than older frames? |
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| 00:29.16 | foxlit | Cloudwolf: no |
| 00:29.31 | foxlit | You have no guarantee over the frame level of frames created in sequence. |
| 00:30.38 | Cloudwolf | if i parent a frame to another frame do you expect that said frame will will be able to show over the other one or do you realy need to decalre the frame levels? |
| 00:30.51 | foxlit | children appear higher than parents |
| 00:31.03 | Cloudwolf | k |
| 00:35.08 | tekkub | "children appear higher than parents" .. taken out of context, this statement is much more enjoyable |
| 00:39.51 | foxlit | what are the oculus drake summoning items called? |
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| 00:50.00 | Gnarfoz | did CreateFrame() gain an argument recently? o_O |
| 00:50.56 | Kraftman | what like? |
| 00:51.01 | foxlit | no |
| 00:51.50 | Gnarfoz | nevermind, mystery already solved ;-) |
| 00:52.15 | Gnarfoz | however, I'm confused as to how to scale a button including all extra stuff like pushed texture and border :\ |
| 00:52.26 | foxlit | :SetScale |
| 00:52.28 | Iriel | Just scale the button |
| 00:52.32 | Iriel | scale is inherited |
| 00:52.38 | Iriel | Gnarfoz: Not recently, no |
| 00:52.54 | Gnarfoz | Iriel: I was misreading two templates passed in a string as two arguments ;) |
| 00:53.56 | Gnarfoz | LockSmith needs ButtonFacade support :] |
| 00:54.29 | foxlit | ButtonFacade needs a wrapper |
| 00:59.00 | Gnarfoz | buttonNormalTexture:Hide() is not permanent :\ |
| 00:59.24 | Gnarfoz | and... it's nearly daily rollover! |
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| 01:24.28 | dardack | what's the best way of incorporating a slash command to your mod if your mod is only like 1 function? |
| 01:24.46 | foxlit | you add another function to handle the slash command |
| 01:25.09 | Iriel | Or you just make the function the slash command |
| 01:25.22 | Iriel | SlashCmdList["YOURADDON_CMD"] = YourAddonFunction; |
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| 01:25.31 | Iriel | SLASH_YOURADDON_CMD1="/whateverthehell" |
| 01:25.33 | Iriel | done |
| 01:25.36 | dardack | and that will trigger without registering an event? |
| 01:25.45 | Iriel | You dont need events for a slash command |
| 01:25.49 | dardack | oh |
| 01:25.51 | dardack | cool |
| 01:26.08 | dardack | so the SLASH_YOUR_cMD1 would just be a local variable? |
| 01:27.02 | Jamash | global |
| 01:27.13 | dardack | ok |
| 01:27.16 | dardack | thanks all |
| 01:42.12 | Cloudwolf | god damn wow wants to fail... |
| 01:42.28 | Cloudwolf | its lockin up on me |
| 01:42.50 | Kraftman | since 3.1 mine crashes if i ever tab out while loading |
| 01:42.58 | Cloudwolf | i just hearthed |
| 01:43.01 | Cloudwolf | and thats it |
| 01:43.05 | Kraftman | :S |
| 01:43.08 | Cloudwolf | and im running in full screen windowed |
| 01:43.14 | Cloudwolf | so there is no such thing as alt tab for me atm |
| 01:44.10 | Cloudwolf | damned wow |
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| 01:57.32 | Cloudwolf | ok do you have to create anchor points to click to resize windows? |
| 01:57.46 | Cloudwolf | along with being able to move them around |
| 02:00.01 | Iriel | Not really, you just have to have some mechanism to invoke StartMoving/StartResizing |
| 02:02.42 | Cloudwolf | would that be a check if mouse is inside the frame and check if its clicked? |
| 02:03.02 | Cloudwolf | iriel could you pastey an example please? |
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| 02:07.46 | Osstia | is there a seperate event for a shift click on a button? or do i just evaluate IsShiftKeyDown() in the handler funtion? |
| 02:08.53 | ScytheBlade1 | the latter |
| 02:08.59 | Osstia | ty ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:10.16 | Cloudwolf | scytheblade1 would you know how to make a frame scale? and move? i register an event on the frame? |
| 02:10.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Cloudwolf: frame:SetScale(2) |
| 02:10.46 | Cloudwolf | not exactly what i meant |
| 02:11.03 | Cloudwolf | like you can physicaly scale it with the mouse |
| 02:11.35 | Iriel | You'd need to track the mouse with OnUpdate |
| 02:11.46 | Cloudwolf | sounds like a headache.... |
| 02:11.53 | Iriel | It's fiddly |
| 02:12.00 | Iriel | because you have to re-interpret your anchors |
| 02:12.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Do you mean resize or scale? |
| 02:12.03 | Iriel | but it's doable |
| 02:12.04 | Cloudwolf | how about moving a frame with a mouse? |
| 02:12.05 | Iriel | 'Scale |
| 02:12.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm betting you mean resize |
| 02:12.20 | Cloudwolf | scytheblade i myself mean resize and move |
| 02:12.28 | Cloudwolf | im sorry if i said scale |
| 02:13.57 | ScytheBlade1 | What Iriel said, then |
| 02:14.34 | Cloudwolf | even for a simple movement of a frame i need to use an on update? |
| 02:14.45 | dardack | this is how i move a frame his:RegisterForDrag("LeftButton"); |
| 02:14.52 | dardack | that's supposed to be this |
| 02:15.08 | dardack | then you have an on mouseup on mouse down |
| 02:15.28 | dardack | not mouse down |
| 02:15.31 | dardack | sigh |
| 02:15.39 | dardack | ondragstart |
| 02:15.43 | Cloudwolf | Iriel or ScytheBlade1 would either of you type up a an example? please |
| 02:15.57 | dardack | and on dragstop |
| 02:16.10 | dardack | this:STATMOVING funciton this:STOPMOVING function |
| 02:16.46 | dardack | acthis:StopMovingOrSizing(); |
| 02:16.49 | dardack | i think |
| 02:16.56 | dardack | this:StartMoving(); |
| 02:17.14 | dardack | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_StartMoving |
| 02:17.19 | Cloudwolf | dardack i have boarderframe:StartMoving() but it does not move im not sure where to place this or how exactly i would do this |
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| 02:17.38 | dardack | in mine i had it in my xml file |
| 02:17.55 | Cloudwolf | i do not use xml only lua |
| 02:17.57 | dardack | you register on dragstart |
| 02:18.25 | dardack | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_RegisterForDrag |
| 02:18.51 | dardack | frame:SetMovable(); frame:SetScript("OnDragStart", frame.StartMoving) |
| 02:18.57 | dardack | if you don't use xml |
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| 02:20.17 | Cloudwolf | !api OnDragStart |
| 02:20.18 | lua_bot | OnDragStart: Fires when the user starts moving the mouse after clicking down on the frame. Available for Frame, Button, ColorSelect, Cooldown, EditBox, GameTooltip, MessageFrame, Minimap, Model, MovieFrame, ScrollFrame, ScrollingMessageFrame, SimpleHTML, Slider, StatusBar, CheckButton, PlayerModel, Dress... (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/scripts/OnDragStart) |
| 02:21.20 | Cloudwolf | time to try it again |
| 02:25.45 | kd3 | ahaha... they wrote a note in pig latin in today's execute package sent up to the shuttle |
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| 02:26.57 | Cloudwolf | ... |
| 02:27.24 | Cloudwolf | ok i realy need an example of how do make a frame move purely in Lua. I'm having issues figuring it out |
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| 02:30.47 | Cloudwolf | :( |
| 02:30.50 | dardack | post a pastey of your code |
| 02:31.02 | Shirik | Look for Frame:StartMoving() |
| 02:31.06 | Shirik | and Frame:StopMovingOrSizing() |
| 02:31.42 | Cloudwolf | Shirik i know that. I do not know how to implement that properly |
| 02:31.53 | Cloudwolf | i need a proper example of working code |
| 02:32.48 | Cloudwolf | http://www.pastey.net/114375 |
| 02:32.55 | Cloudwolf | that is my code as it is now |
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| 02:35.17 | dardack | you didn't read what i posted above, frame:SetMovable(); frame:SetScript("OnDragStart", frame.StartMoving) |
| 02:35.28 | dardack | you have no ondragstart |
| 02:35.47 | Cloudwolf | i tried that dardack |
| 02:35.50 | Cloudwolf | and it didn't work |
| 02:35.51 | Cloudwolf | so i removed it |
| 02:36.16 | Shirik | how do you not have a single comment in there |
| 02:36.29 | Cloudwolf | because i don't work with comments? |
| 02:36.43 | Shirik | your code doesn't work with you, too :) |
| 02:36.53 | Cloudwolf | it works well enough |
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| 02:37.33 | Shirik | You're setting yourself up for a lot of pain as soon as you do something non-trivial if you don't write comments |
| 02:37.46 | Shirik | not to mention trying to get others' help |
| 02:38.06 | Cloudwolf | like explain to myself and others what each section does in my code? |
| 02:42.19 | Cloudwolf | btw shirik no where in that code |
| 02:42.24 | Cloudwolf | do i have anythinga bout dragging |
| 02:42.45 | Cloudwolf | some one requested my code be put up. but i realy need an example to learn from... |
| 02:44.55 | Wobin | I... have no words... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hcElGydzb8 |
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| 02:56.38 | Cloudwolf | Please oh mighty WoW lua gods would you write up a pastey example of creating a movable frame? |
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| 03:05.25 | Kraps | is this an ok pvp spec? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#LhrhdfIzxbrRzhuiohxrs:IszzMm |
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| 03:12.38 | kmcguire | My brain is so stupid. |
| 03:14.09 | Cloudwolf | meh |
| 03:14.13 | Cloudwolf | ile try and figure this shit out tomarrow |
| 03:16.07 | Demos_Sema | tip: going to the badlands at level 35 through searing gorge and the burning speps, bad idea |
| 03:21.28 | Kraps | Demos_Sema: isnt going from loch modan quicker? :) |
| 03:21.48 | kmcguire | f=CreateFrame('frame', nil, nil, nil); f.t=f:CreateTitleRegion(); f.t:SetWidth(100); f.t:SetHeight(100); f:SetWidth(100); f:SetHeight(100); f:SetMovable(1); f:RegisterForDrag('LeftButton'); f:Show(); f:SetBackdropColor(1.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0); f:SetBackdrop({bgFile='Interface/buttons/UI-Panel-MinimizeButton-Up'}); f:SetPoint('TOPLEFT', 0, 0); f.t:SetPoint('TOPLEFT', 0, 0); f:EnableMouse(1) |
| 03:22.32 | kmcguire | Oh, he left. |
| 03:27.27 | kmcguire | hahaha, my engine built the first route. |
| 03:28.00 | kmcguire | In 0.03 seconds with 7 objectives.. might be a little slow in the end.. dont know, but it is working. |
| 03:30.43 | kmcguire | See, it looks pretty ZorbaTHut. http://www.pastey.net/114376-ptt8, but more to put in it. |
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| 04:02.51 | dardack | kmcguire: just reading your comments, why not just rewrite the code that someone else wrote to fit your needs? |
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| 04:05.09 | Cairenn | Ackis: lol, someone answered your for serious |
| 04:05.20 | Ackis | lol |
| 04:06.42 | mikma | for what? |
| 04:10.42 | kmcguire | dardack, It is such a broad question. Do you mean quest helper's existing code or something else like that auto path addon someone was talking about? |
| 04:11.14 | kmcguire | It is likely fun for me to do too. |
| 04:17.41 | kmcguire | The code I have is almost done. It just needs to be able to support flags that specify stuff like. Do low/high || objectives/quests first or support other custom things. And, then the code to refine the path to walk around mountains and things. |
| 04:18.38 | Shadowed | What do people think of: http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6069/frame3.png the ones without power text are totot/focustarget, for mod defaults :p |
| 04:25.09 | mikma | shadowed: nomnom |
| 04:36.35 | Tem | Shadowed, hate em :( |
| 04:36.45 | Shadowed | reads your mind to find out why |
| 04:37.37 | Tem | I don't like stacking frames like that |
| 04:37.50 | Tem | I can't tell which is which without asking you |
| 04:38.10 | Tem | I'm not a huge fan of portraits |
| 04:39.34 | Tem | I've gotten used to the power bar being smaller than the health bar so that looks odd to me as well |
| 04:40.28 | Kraps | how do you minimize glancing blows? |
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| 04:41.06 | Exawatt | Is there any way to determine whether or not the player is following someone? |
| 04:42.04 | Exawatt | Wait, nevermind. I'll just set a variable based on the follow events. |
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| 04:57.42 | Torhal | mikma: Feh. |
| 04:57.53 | Fisker- | hey Cairenn |
| 04:58.00 | Cairenn | Fisker-: hmm? |
| 04:58.09 | Fisker- | did you get any tickets? hoho |
| 04:58.13 | Cairenn | :p |
| 04:58.16 | Cairenn | I have my ticket |
| 04:58.29 | Cairenn | I was trying to get some extras in case others need them |
| 04:58.36 | Fisker- | cheat |
| 04:59.19 | mikma | torhal: duh, good night! |
| 04:59.41 | Fisker- | actually i need to check if my friends on ebay need a few tickets as well |
| 04:59.49 | Torhal | mikma: Now I'm confused. |
| 05:00.07 | mikma | torhal: aww poop, thats something we dont want |
| 05:00.32 | Torhal | Did you ever try the texture thinger? |
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| 05:01.08 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: you don't anymore. |
| 05:01.22 | mikma | torhal: nope, but put it in bookmark (i think) so i can try it when i start building "tooltip gui" for my new addon |
| 05:01.30 | Torhal | Aha |
| 05:01.35 | Kraps | Gnarfoz: cant or dont? |
| 05:01.55 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: or rather, you never could; before 2.0 you could reduce how much they reduced the damage of that attack |
| 05:02.04 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: there is no stat that affects them anymore |
| 05:02.10 | Kraps | mk |
| 05:02.20 | Gnarfoz | at max weapon skill, that is, of course |
| 05:02.56 | Stanzilla | what was it pre-2.0? don't remember :( |
| 05:03.04 | mikma | torhal: i dislike the fact that you need to fiddle around with the texture width, cause the tooltipp might not have the same wisth always |
| 05:03.38 | mikma | wow, typos telll me i really need a nap |
| 05:03.43 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: +weapon skill reduced the damage penalty on glancing blows |
| 05:03.57 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: key to topping dmg as any melee :> |
| 05:04.12 | Stanzilla | k^^ |
| 05:04.44 | Gnarfoz | rogue: talented +weaponskill in combat tree, +maladath (+maybe human racial, grrr, my rogue's a gnome :(() = almost no penalty |
| 05:05.15 | Torhal | mikma: I dislike that as well, but I haven't had time to test other theories or add stuff to make it not so. |
| 05:05.43 | mikma | torhal: did you check out the way kirov and i created? |
| 05:07.58 | mikma | torhal: http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=mikma&path=%2FPartyHardy%2FTooltipSpacerLine.lua |
| 05:09.55 | Fisker- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6gT18SQVZU |
| 05:09.58 | Fisker- | SEE IT |
| 05:10.23 | Bruners | Fisker-: did you notice how norway rocked the eurovision ? |
| 05:10.42 | mikma | torhal: does pretty much this: http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_051209_053536.jpg |
| 05:10.44 | Fisker- | i don't care |
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| 05:10.52 | Fisker- | eurovision is for n00bs |
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| 05:10.56 | mikma | now, sleepy time! |
| 05:11.42 | Fisker- | IS IT OUT? |
| 05:11.45 | Bruners | Fisker-: your just saying that since fiskerland got on bottom :) |
| 05:12.20 | Torhal | mikma: Yah, you pastied a few days ago :) |
| 05:12.39 | Fisker- | naw Bruners |
| 05:12.44 | Fisker- | i also said it when we won, etc. |
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| 05:42.46 | Thunder_Child | i hate people |
| 05:44.07 | Spllbnder | i love all humans, i sometimes have a hard time be comfortable by their actions, which i can hate |
| 05:47.41 | Wobin | ugh |
| 05:48.02 | Wobin | I hate women in guild who try to emotionally blackmail people |
| 05:48.13 | Wobin | "So, how much do you love the Tissa?!" |
| 05:48.22 | Guillotine | I hate people who hate stuff |
| 05:48.36 | Wobin | I'd be gender nonspecific about it, but really, she's the only one that does it |
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| 05:52.34 | Gnarfoz | answer truthfully. :P |
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| 05:56.54 | Fisker- | i hate people who hate people who hate stuff |
| 05:57.15 | Spllbnder | so much hate |
| 05:57.32 | Fisker- | i also hate you |
| 05:57.55 | Kraps | pugs take for-freaking-ever |
| 05:57.56 | Spllbnder | i can't and wouldn't stop you |
| 06:06.08 | Taroven | Is there any way to completely remove a project from WoWI's svn? |
| 06:06.44 | Spllbnder | powersaw |
| 06:08.41 | Taroven | Heh. |
| 06:16.39 | Thunder_Child | holy shit Guillotine, you do exists |
| 06:16.50 | Thunder_Child | exist* |
| 06:16.51 | Guillotine | gasps. WHERE? |
| 06:17.12 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Guillotine |
| 06:17.12 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives Guillotine a good jolt |
| 06:17.19 | Thunder_Child | man that felt good |
| 06:19.32 | Taroven | XD |
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| 06:23.57 | Thunder_Child | hmm...i wonder how much you have to pay to get your own non-comabt pet in the game |
| 06:24.20 | Taroven | A lot, I'd assume. |
| 06:25.32 | Thunder_Child | $5 says pepsi wont tell us |
| 06:27.32 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 06:27.48 | Thunder_Child | http://www.mountaindewgamefuel.com/#/home |
| 06:27.53 | Fisker- | nothings! |
| 06:28.03 | Thunder_Child | Battle-Bot Mountain Dew Mini Pet |
| 06:28.03 | Thunder_Child | Once again we will talk about the Battle-Bot pet from the Mountain Dew promotional event. (US Servers only) |
| 06:28.06 | Fisker- | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 06:28.22 | Bibi | nice site |
| 06:28.23 | Bibi | I like it |
| 06:28.33 | Thunder_Child | lies |
| 06:28.34 | Fisker- | yep |
| 06:28.36 | Thunder_Child | you hate it |
| 06:28.49 | Fisker- | I wonder if they'll just attach it to any account associated with the e-mail used for signing up |
| 06:29.01 | Fisker- | maybe there's hope for us european scammers after all |
| 06:29.33 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, people have more than one |
| 06:29.55 | Arrowmaster | oh fuck must have el pollo grande |
| 06:30.03 | Fisker- | my point exactly Thunder_Child |
| 06:30.17 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, a bad point |
| 06:30.37 | Thunder_Child | seriously Arrowmaster? |
| 06:30.52 | Arrowmaster | do i have to transfer my wow account to a blizzard account to get this free minipet? |
| 06:31.13 | Thunder_Child | i didnt see anyting about that |
| 06:31.27 | Fisker- | He did use the term "Blizzard Account" |
| 06:31.37 | Fisker- | so he may have ben referring to a battle.net account |
| 06:31.44 | Fisker- | anyways |
| 06:31.50 | Thunder_Child | i hope not, i dont want to link them |
| 06:31.52 | Fisker- | gonna sign up with my wow e-mail as well |
| 06:31.55 | Fisker- | and hope for theb est |
| 06:31.58 | Arrowmaster | "The Pet will be free to users who register with the promotion and have a Blizzard account. You won't have to use points for it." |
| 06:31.59 | Fisker- | best* |
| 06:32.06 | Fisker- | why not Thunder_Child ? :3 |
| 06:32.42 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, email is longer than accnt name |
| 06:32.45 | Thunder_Child | and i am LAZY! |
| 06:33.14 | Fisker- | eventually you'll have to merge |
| 06:33.17 | Fisker- | might as well be now |
| 06:33.17 | Fisker- | also |
| 06:33.21 | Fisker- | "Remember account name" |
| 06:33.31 | Thunder_Child | more than one |
| 06:33.54 | Thunder_Child | also, have? if i have to merge dont you think they would have done it already? |
| 06:35.33 | Fisker- | i said "eventually" |
| 06:35.34 | Fisker- | also |
| 06:35.39 | Fisker- | you can merge more than one account |
| 06:36.11 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, why 'eventually'? |
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| 06:36.33 | Taroven | Just had a semirandom thought when watching the El Pollo Grande video. |
| 06:36.41 | Fisker- | Because at some point you won't be able to login unless it's a battle.net account |
| 06:36.43 | Taroven | "I.... AM EL POLLO DIABLO!" |
| 06:36.52 | Taroven | "...people just call me 'El'." |
| 06:37.00 | Thunder_Child | also, i'm not sure why but i just dont want my email addy as my accnt name, possibly because i'm not the only one that knows my email addy |
| 06:37.01 | Shirik | is scared of Taroven |
| 06:37.14 | Spllbnder | pets Shirik |
| 06:37.17 | Fisker- | account name != security |
| 06:37.23 | Taroven | Heh, that was a line from one of the Treasure Island games waaaaay back when. |
| 06:37.23 | Thunder_Child | Taroven, to much monkey island |
| 06:37.27 | Spllbnder | hmm |
| 06:37.29 | Taroven | YES! |
| 06:37.30 | Thunder_Child | MONKEY! |
| 06:37.35 | Thunder_Child | not treasure |
| 06:37.37 | Taroven | Sorry, been a while. XD |
| 06:37.40 | Taroven | You're right. |
| 06:37.48 | Thunder_Child | it was from curse of |
| 06:38.24 | Thunder_Child | i still play that game every now and again |
| 06:38.58 | Thunder_Child | brillant minds worked on that game |
| 06:39.06 | Thunder_Child | sick and twisted, but brilliant |
| 06:39.15 | Taroven | Hehe, agreed. |
| 06:39.22 | Taroven | I need to hunt it down one of these days. |
| 06:40.22 | Thunder_Child | today is one of these days |
| 06:40.44 | Fisker- | "we will eventually require all active World of Warcraft accounts to migrate over to Battle.net Accounts in order to continue playing. " |
| 06:40.46 | Fisker- | bawww |
| 06:41.09 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
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| 06:45.16 | Fisker- | my cat is watching you merge accounts Thunder_Child |
| 06:45.29 | Thunder_Child | except i am not doing it till them make me Fisker- |
| 06:46.32 | Thunder_Child | s/em/ey/ |
| 06:46.37 | Fisker- | maybe i should tell them to speed things up |
| 06:46.58 | Thunder_Child | i will hunt you down Fisker- |
| 06:47.38 | Fisker- | you can't |
| 06:47.47 | Thunder_Child | why not? |
| 06:48.09 | Fisker- | Because i can do all sorts of movie hacker tricks |
| 06:48.20 | Thunder_Child | win http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1169#comic |
| 06:48.24 | Fisker- | like have a foreign dns server so you can't look up my ip! |
| 06:48.31 | Fisker- | in russia |
| 06:51.36 | Thunder_Child | CIA > Fisker- |
| 06:53.32 | Fisker- | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untraceable |
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| 06:54.16 | Thunder_Child | i reiterate "CIA > Fisker-" |
| 06:54.39 | Fisker- | if the fbi can't the cia can't either |
| 06:55.59 | Thunder_Child | NSA |
| 06:56.36 | Dagmar | NRO actually, but it's beside the point. |
| 06:57.09 | Dagmar | The NSA isn't "supposed" to look at US citizens directly. |
| 06:57.12 | Dagmar | It's why they have the NRO. |
| 06:57.19 | Thunder_Child | "Not Really Official" vs "No Such Agency"? |
| 06:57.31 | Dagmar | National Reconnaissance Organization |
| 06:57.47 | Dagmar | They're like the NSA, but their job is exclusively to spy on the citizenry |
| 06:57.55 | Thunder_Child | needs to work with an older crowd |
| 06:58.08 | Thunder_Child | also Dagmar, Fisker- isnt in the US |
| 06:58.35 | Dagmar | Well, let's just hope he doesn't find out the hard way that sometimes, it's just simpler to have someone um... have an accident. |
| 06:59.14 | Dagmar | Like when people sometimes, entirely by accident, swallow fissionable materials. |
| 06:59.46 | Dagmar | I used to hang out with a much more disturbing crowd of spooks. |
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| 06:59.57 | Thunder_Child | that was no....oh...haha, got ya |
| 07:00.56 | Dagmar | You learn neat stuff tho... like these people, http://www.janes.com/, have a news feed. |
| 07:01.07 | Dagmar | You don't want to read it if you like to sleep all the way through the night. |
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| 07:22.55 | Fisker- | you know what i like Thunder_Child ? |
| 07:23.17 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, tormenting people? |
| 07:23.26 | Fisker- | also that |
| 07:23.44 | Fisker- | but i like that at some point in the future you'll have to type in your e-mail address to login in wow |
| 07:24.18 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, maybe, maybe not |
| 07:25.02 | Fisker- | then you won |
| 07:25.05 | Fisker- | 't be playing |
| 07:25.08 | Fisker- | which is nice as well |
| 07:30.19 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, maybe, maybe not |
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| 07:39.12 | Fisker- | i got the biggest tree of wisdom |
| 07:43.53 | Thunder_Child | why the hell wont the search work in win7 |
| 07:44.27 | Fisker- | because you haven't merged your account hoho |
| 07:44.41 | Thunder_Child | you know there is something wrong when *.* turns up nothing |
| 07:46.18 | Fisker- | maybe the service is down? |
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| 08:07.05 | msou| | As a DK |
| 08:07.13 | msou| | is it better to have sigil of awareness |
| 08:07.47 | Thunder_Child | msou|, i think you need a comparison |
| 08:07.50 | msou| | Equip increases the base damage dealt by your scourge strike by 189, your oblitrate by 336 and your dseath strike |
| 08:07.55 | msou| | hmm |
| 08:08.02 | msou| | will, about to get my first epic item |
| 08:08.06 | msou| | 25 emblems and what I have is |
| 08:08.25 | msou| | relic sigil increases the damage dealt by blood strike and heart strike... I know the epic one is better |
| 08:08.39 | msou| | but should I wait and get I don't know if there is more options really hence me asking |
| 08:09.01 | msou| | have 28 emblems and thought of getting that sigil... and later work on vest, waisrt, legs etc |
| 08:09.13 | Thunder_Child | i dont have a DK so i cant say, but offhand i dont think any of the emblem stuff is BIS |
| 08:09.26 | msou| | what's BIS? =) |
| 08:09.36 | Thunder_Child | Best-in-Slot |
| 08:09.39 | msou| | oh |
| 08:10.13 | msou| | I need to gear up little by little =) |
| 08:11.22 | msou| | Now I am hesitated.. whether to get it or not.. :/ |
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| 08:20.05 | msou| | ah |
| 08:20.28 | msou| | you know I thought the currency is emblem of heroism to buy those stuff from dalaran |
| 08:20.35 | msou| | and it turns out to be emblem of valor |
| 08:20.46 | msou| | and those drops from raid bosses |
| 08:20.53 | msou| | something I haven't done yet |
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| 08:31.41 | Wobin | yes, you want Sigil of Awareness |
| 08:32.05 | Wobin | wait and get it |
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| 08:40.50 | msou| | Wobin: just bought the one I mentioned gues I have to sell it |
| 08:40.58 | msou| | to get my emblems back |
| 08:41.12 | Wobin | well you can do that without penalty now |
| 08:41.16 | Wobin | within the time limit |
| 08:41.23 | msou| | yeah |
| 08:42.31 | msou| | emblems of valor |
| 08:42.37 | msou| | only from raids you get them? |
| 08:43.07 | msou| | I got to lvl 80 two days ago |
| 08:43.44 | msou| | I can get a trinket instrad but not sure if it is good or not |
| 08:43.57 | msou| | mirror of truth |
| 08:44.46 | Wobin | for dps it's great |
| 08:44.59 | msou| | did reset my talent tree yesterday to try something new |
| 08:45.01 | msou| | yeah dps |
| 08:45.02 | Wobin | emblems of valor only drop from 25man content |
| 08:45.08 | msou| | oh I see |
| 08:45.18 | msou| | so you think I should get mirror of truth? =) |
| 08:46.05 | Wobin | yes |
| 08:46.20 | msou| | bleh, 40 and I got 28 |
| 08:46.35 | msou| | every heroic I did |
| 08:46.39 | msou| | and won nothing |
| 08:46.42 | Wobin | do more heroics =P |
| 08:46.45 | msou| | except the crap ones |
| 08:46.51 | msou| | yeah I am but hard to find a group |
| 08:47.02 | durcyn | Wobin: says who? ulduar 10 drops valor badges if you don't do hard modes |
| 08:47.24 | Wobin | okay. For msou, emblems of valor will only drop from 25man content |
| 08:47.35 | msou| | durcyn: do you play on eu? every monkey ask for achievements and stats to do ulduar or naxx |
| 08:47.37 | Wobin | Since there is no way he is even close to being geared for 10man hard ulduar |
| 08:47.54 | msou| | the funny part few days back someone asked for them for "threat from abocve" group quest |
| 08:47.55 | Wobin | er, not hard |
| 08:47.57 | Wobin | bah |
| 08:48.03 | Wobin | Ulduar in the first place =P |
| 08:48.23 | msou| | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Aammaa |
| 08:48.30 | msou| | you think I can manage with my geat/talent |
| 08:49.18 | msou| | my dps is kinda low cause I don't know what to hit first, ice touch, plague strike, blood strike, blood strike, scourge strike and summ gorg |
| 08:49.36 | msou| | then again blood blood, scourge and unholy blight last |
| 08:49.48 | msou| | dunno how to maximize my dps stats |
| 08:49.48 | Wobin | look on wow-heros.com |
| 08:49.56 | Wobin | it'll suggest raid instances for you |
| 08:50.02 | msou| | hmm |
| 08:50.24 | Wobin | in your case, you want at -least- everything above ilvl200 before even -considering- ulduar |
| 08:50.36 | Wobin | msou|: read ElitistJerks |
| 08:51.43 | Wobin | You'll have to run heroics until you get the best heroic gear |
| 08:51.54 | Wobin | before people will want to take you in for pug Naxx |
| 08:52.04 | msou| | yeah |
| 08:52.05 | Wobin | or, you can join a guild |
| 08:52.47 | msou| | my friends asked me to join them in silvermoon "alliance" but I was already 76 and wanted to hit lvl 80 |
| 08:53.44 | Wobin | Join the guild |
| 08:53.52 | msou| | I play as horde |
| 08:53.52 | Wobin | it'll make it easier to get decent groups |
| 08:53.55 | Wobin | ah |
| 08:53.58 | Wobin | well, find a guild =) |
| 08:53.59 | msou| | if they were horde I'd move my char long ago |
| 08:54.18 | msou| | I get invites from random ppl I just keep declining |
| 08:54.36 | Wobin | if you play the loner, you'll have to depend on pugs |
| 08:54.39 | Wobin | and that's never good |
| 08:54.46 | Wobin | join the guilds, if they're no good, leave them |
| 08:54.54 | Wobin | but you won't know til you try them |
| 08:55.04 | msou| | guess I will, need to get to learn how to be in top dpses |
| 08:55.13 | Wobin | Look on your realm forum for recruitment posts |
| 08:55.27 | Wobin | You have to make some effort to get some result =P |
| 08:55.33 | msou| | hehe |
| 08:57.24 | msou| | how do you know what realm they are on? |
| 08:57.42 | Wobin | ... who? |
| 08:58.03 | msou| | if you read the forums under rec I just see the name |
| 08:58.10 | msou| | and whatever they're seeking |
| 08:58.25 | Wobin | look on your own realm forum |
| 08:58.46 | msou| | first time digging the wow forums to be truthful |
| 08:59.00 | Wobin | don't read too much into them |
| 08:59.02 | Wobin | cause they're terrible |
| 08:59.14 | msou| | hehe |
| 08:59.18 | Wobin | You've joined the LookingForGuild channel ingame? |
| 08:59.43 | msou| | I wasn't even aware of that |
| 09:00.29 | Wobin | Interface->Social->Auto Join Guild Recruitment Channel |
| 09:01.12 | msou| | oh it's marked |
| 09:01.19 | msou| | never done it myself |
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| 09:04.31 | msou| | hmm |
| 09:04.36 | msou| | checking this |
| 09:04.46 | msou| | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jciMmZZfMhI0cdxcqMcsut |
| 09:05.06 | msou| | and thinking of having the same |
| 09:05.43 | Taroven | Okay, getting irked here. |
| 09:06.09 | Taroven | I've got a project on WoWI's svn that I'm trying to push live. |
| 09:06.26 | Taroven | But when the zip is generated, there's no directory added to the root |
| 09:07.15 | Taroven | Happens when adding a subdirectory to the svn as well... Anyone know a way to remedy that? |
| 09:08.29 | Wobin | hm, anyone got a good link to some relatively up to date DK DW theorycrafting? |
| 09:08.33 | Taroven | The goal would be to have file.zip/AddonName/Addonfiles.etc, but it's skipping the directory. x.x |
| 09:08.46 | Taroven | Tried elitistjerks yet, Wobin? |
| 09:09.03 | durcyn | dw is dead, move on |
| 09:09.20 | Wobin | I'm looking atm, but wading through EJ, is like going through swamp mud at times |
| 09:09.33 | Taroven | yar. |
| 09:09.35 | Wobin | durcyn: I just got a nice one hander in ulduar, so I figured I'd give it a look =P |
| 09:09.50 | Wobin | esp since it's my -first- weapon I've ever gotten in a raid >< |
| 09:10.06 | Wobin | I just have had -no- luck in weapons dropping for me |
| 09:10.10 | Taroven | I've been trying to find a little info on a 51/18/2 Rogue spec and exactly how effective it would be, but... no dice. |
| 09:10.24 | Taroven | I'll trade ya, Wobin. |
| 09:10.33 | Taroven | I had Anarchy drop SIX TIMES IN A ROW. |
| 09:10.58 | Taroven | My rogue ended up with not one, but TWO extras aside from the two I had already. |
| 09:13.18 | Taroven | gives up, looks at the clock, and flumps into bed. |
| 09:18.17 | msou| | I have no luck |
| 09:18.26 | msou| | the only thing I won from heroics so far is |
| 09:18.32 | msou| | reins of bronze drake |
| 09:18.48 | msou| | which is a tease cause I have to buy the artisan... half way there |
| 09:27.48 | Wobin | having the bronze drake drop is 'no luck'? =P |
| 09:27.56 | Wobin | You've only been 80 for two days, jeez =P |
| 09:29.59 | nevcairiel | its no luck if everyone in the group has it already |
| 09:30.06 | nevcairiel | its not exactly hard to finish the instance in time |
| 09:30.39 | Wobin | nevcairiel: in a pug? =P |
| 09:31.06 | nevcairiel | whats a pug? :P |
| 09:31.17 | nevcairiel | get more friends, imho |
| 09:31.20 | Wobin | what msou| needs to use |
| 09:31.26 | Wobin | cause he has no friends hordeside =P |
| 09:32.55 | nevcairiel | even with a pug its manageable if your tank has half a brain |
| 09:33.00 | Wobin | yes |
| 09:33.10 | Wobin | but you're never going to get a pug where you're the only one without a mount |
| 09:33.19 | Wobin | since why the hell would they speed run it then? |
| 09:33.41 | Wobin | You also need nofail dps |
| 09:33.59 | Wobin | and seeing that he only just hit 80, his dps is likely to be on the low side |
| 09:34.06 | nevcairiel | If i do the instance because its daily heroic, i could as well speed run =) |
| 09:34.38 | Wobin | that's also cause you know your party members =P |
| 09:35.06 | nevcairiel | it all comes back to "make friends" doesnt it =P |
| 09:35.36 | Wobin | Well, I've already suggested that =P |
| 09:36.34 | nevcairiel | i would be so bored when i would only be able to play pugs |
| 09:36.53 | Wobin | true |
| 09:37.54 | nevcairiel | I started WoW with a guy i knew from another game, and we quickly found a small guild to level up in to 60, was kinda nice. After that i joined my current guild, and never left, in the last 4 years =P |
| 09:39.01 | nevcairiel | there were times where i wanted to start over somewhere else, but i couldn't motivate some of my friends to come with me, so no deal =P |
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| 10:16.02 | kapipi | Hello, a simple lua question, how do I increment a variable, var++ does not seem to work. |
| 10:16.06 | ZorbaTHut | I wish WoW's lua had "continue" :( |
| 10:16.09 | ZorbaTHut | kapipi, var = var + 1 |
| 10:16.15 | kapipi | ok |
| 10:16.36 | kapipi | I guess theres no pressing reason for syntactic sugar there :-D |
| 10:16.56 | ZorbaTHut | true :) especially since most loops in Lua use one of the built-in loop constructs |
| 10:17.12 | kapipi | well also since expression is evaluated before assignment |
| 10:17.48 | kapipi | not sure when you need to evaluate the expression *after* assignment but other values have the ++var for that |
| 10:17.57 | kapipi | anyway, simple is fine for me :-D |
| 10:17.58 | kapipi | thanks |
| 10:18.02 | ZorbaTHut | np |
| 10:24.58 | Wobin | dhttp://www.wowhead.com/?compare=45331;40703;45203&focus=0 |
| 10:24.59 | kapipi | Another small question if I have a value that might be a negative integer, how do i get the non signed value? |
| 10:25.00 | Wobin | er http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=45331;40703;45203&focus=0 |
| 10:25.12 | Wobin | which of the second two would go well DW with the first |
| 10:25.44 | cbreak | kapipi: math.abs(num) |
| 10:27.42 | kapipi | oh, thats simple, thanks :-D |
| 10:27.50 | Fisker- | Wobin is here to fuck us |
| 10:28.12 | ZorbaTHut | wobin, without knowing a lot about death knights, I'd choose the first, based on the theory that it wastes less itemization on stamina and agility |
| 10:28.14 | Wobin | well not you, Fisker-. Who knows where you have been |
| 10:30.32 | ZorbaTHut | and haste, for that matter |
| 10:30.45 | Wobin | haste isn't neccesarily a bad thing I don't think |
| 10:30.50 | Wobin | since DW depends a lot on physical damage |
| 10:30.50 | ZorbaTHut | does haste do anything useful for death knights? |
| 10:30.56 | ZorbaTHut | hmm, alright |
| 10:31.05 | Wobin | anyway, I went and purchased Grasscutter =) |
| 10:31.25 | ZorbaTHut | it looks pretty at least ;) |
| 10:31.56 | Wobin | actually, what I'll do is test both out on the dummies =) |
| 10:31.57 | Wobin | since we can no refund within 2hrs |
| 10:32.01 | Wobin | s/no/now/ |
| 10:39.45 | Fisker- | haste is useless |
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| 10:40.58 | haste | Fisker-: is useless! |
| 10:42.01 | Fisker- | http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/74617/scout%20mom%20pornred.gif <-blu scout is devastated haste |
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| 10:51.45 | haste | Fisker-: I just want to let you know that we are the cartoon heroes |
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| 11:25.18 | Wobin | haste: we are the ones that are gonna last forever? |
| 11:34.02 | haste | Wobin: yep |
| 11:37.25 | airtonix | http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5360/rummy.gif |
| 11:48.13 | Wobin | classy =) |
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| 11:56.07 | bluspacecow | oh dear dear dear |
| 11:56.17 | bluspacecow | cant seem to reset my nickserv password |
| 11:56.47 | bluspacecow | cant seem to find a command in /msg NickServ to reset it ... |
| 11:58.23 | Mikk | That's logical |
| 11:58.36 | Mikk | There's no way for nickserv to know if bluespacecow is actually bluespacecow |
| 11:58.42 | Mikk | Other than providing a password |
| 11:59.29 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 11:59.40 | bluspacecow | might have to pop off an email to the free node peopls |
| 11:59.43 | bluspacecow | *peoples |
| 11:59.47 | bluspacecow | no biggie |
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| 12:05.11 | jnwhiteh | Mikk: you register an email now with nickserv |
| 12:05.17 | jnwhiteh | and you can request a new password, etc. from that |
| 12:05.24 | jnwhiteh | but I think people who haven't done that can't =) |
| 12:07.47 | Mikk | oooh |
| 12:07.54 | Mikk | gets chatty with nickserv |
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| 12:12.22 | batrick | So did the website go down or no? |
| 12:12.58 | batrick | (during blizzcon ticket sales) |
| 12:14.35 | jnwhiteh | it was up the whole time for me |
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| 12:24.18 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:24.23 | Mikk | ^ how to fix it for us old geezers |
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| 12:35.57 | Fisker- | jnwhiteh |
| 12:36.16 | jnwhiteh | mm? |
| 12:37.17 | Fisker- | A pornography starring your mother will be the second worst thing that happens to you today |
| 12:37.19 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 12:37.28 | nevcairiel | whats teh worst? |
| 12:37.35 | Fisker- | Being killed |
| 12:37.37 | foxlit | Hey, Fisker-, did you know that a Fisker won eurovision? |
| 12:38.01 | Fisker- | awesome! |
| 12:38.33 | foxlit | (I'm afraid that joke requires you to understand three languages :() |
| 12:39.07 | airtonix | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20051209.gif |
| 12:39.09 | Fisker- | >:(? |
| 12:42.55 | zenzelezz | foxlit: which three languages? |
| 12:43.27 | Wobin | =\ |
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| 12:43.46 | Wobin | I'm getting over 500 more dps 2H blood than DW unholy |
| 12:44.09 | foxlit | zenzelezz: one is obviously english |
| 12:44.38 | Bluespacecow | engrish ? |
| 12:44.42 | Wobin | one is swedish? |
| 12:45.07 | foxlit | I was going to say danish, but I suppose the two might just be the same as far as fiskers are concerned. |
| 12:45.43 | zenzelezz | Norwegian, Danish? |
| 12:46.11 | foxlit | Norwegian is in the same bucket as danish/sweedish. |
| 12:46.37 | zenzelezz | Norwegian is closer to Danish than Swedish is |
| 12:47.29 | JackBurton7676 | addon to take over the general chat/combat window? Im trying to hide the arrows and make the text seethrough |
| 12:48.21 | Xinhuan | when does string.match() return "invalid capture index" error? |
| 12:49.00 | foxlit | lua> string.match("foo", "foo%1"); |
| 12:49.00 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: invalid capture index |
| 12:49.26 | Xinhuan | does %1 mean anything in a capture? |
| 12:49.37 | foxlit | yes |
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| 12:49.52 | Xinhuan | what does it mean |
| 12:49.56 | Xinhuan | lua> string.match("foo", "foo%b") |
| 12:49.57 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: luabot:1: unbalanced pattern |
| 12:50.01 | foxlit | but you actually mean s/capture/pattern/ |
| 12:50.09 | Xinhuan | yeah i mean pattern |
| 12:50.12 | foxlit | It refers back to a particular capture. |
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| 12:50.33 | Xinhuan | you can refer back in a pattern itself? |
| 12:50.55 | foxlit | lua> string.match("<answer>yes</answer>", "<(%a+)>(.+)</%1>"); |
| 12:50.56 | lua_bot | foxlit: answer, yes |
| 12:51.14 | Xinhuan | lua> string.match("foofoo", "(.*)(%1)") |
| 12:51.15 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: foo, foo |
| 12:51.57 | Xinhuan | so an invalid capture index error can only occur with %1, %2, etc? |
| 12:52.13 | foxlit | I'd say so |
| 12:52.22 | Xinhuan | i appear to have this error in deDE |
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| 12:52.29 | Xinhuan | local setname, _, setsize = strmatch(text, ITEM_SET_NAME_R) |
| 12:52.39 | Xinhuan | that constant is defined as |
| 12:52.40 | Xinhuan | local ITEM_SET_NAME_R = ITEM_SET_NAME:gsub("%(", "%%("):gsub("%)", "%%)"):gsub("%%s", "(.*)"):gsub("%%d", "(%%d)") |
| 12:53.02 | Xinhuan | it basically converts "%s (%d/%d)" to "(.*) %((%d)/(%d)%)" |
| 12:53.58 | foxlit | lua> ("Netherwind Regalia (8/8)"):match("(.*) %((%d)/(%d)%)"); |
| 12:53.58 | lua_bot | foxlit: Netherwind Regalia, 8, 8 |
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| 12:54.50 | Xinhuan | i would need a deDE version of that ITEM_SET_NAME i guess |
| 12:54.54 | Xinhuan | to see what is wrong |
| 12:56.47 | foxlit | Ah, easy |
| 12:56.53 | foxlit | And then again, you're screwed. |
| 12:57.12 | foxlit | ITEM_SET_NAME = "%1$s (%2$d/%3$d)" |
| 12:57.35 | Xinhuan | ... |
| 12:57.36 | Xinhuan | wow |
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| 12:58.04 | Xinhuan | that's so dumb |
| 12:58.12 | Xinhuan | if its already in the order %1, %2 and %3 |
| 12:59.13 | JackBurton7676 | any addons remove the up/down arrows in chat window? |
| 12:59.30 | Pneumatus | lots |
| 12:59.58 | JackBurton7676 | likes which is da one dat u use? |
| 13:00.19 | bluspacecow | i use prat-3.0 myself |
| 13:00.36 | bluspacecow | brb guys |
| 13:00.46 | JackBurton7676 | htx blue |
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| 13:24.42 | Wobin | I quite like the Eurovision winner's song |
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| 13:44.27 | foxlit | Wobin: the selling point is clearly the boy's cuteness |
| 13:44.41 | Wobin | That's always been the case in Eurovision =) |
| 13:44.58 | Wobin | That's why he also had two women in bathrobes and three dancing men |
| 13:45.04 | Wobin | so it catered to EVERYONE |
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| 13:45.59 | Ackis | am i an asshole... for reporting ebay auctions of blizzcon stuff? |
| 13:46.47 | foxlit | Wobin: Lordi is like the opposite of cute. |
| 13:46.54 | kludg | no do it more ackis |
| 13:48.15 | foxlit | does it actually work? |
| 13:48.16 | bluspacecow | dpends are they sculping ? |
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| 13:49.21 | bluspacecow | *sculping |
| 13:49.29 | Ackis | scalping? |
| 13:49.30 | Ackis | yes |
| 13:49.34 | bluspacecow | *sigh* you guys know what I mean |
| 13:49.48 | Ackis | ebay policies are for tickets you have to put the original price and when selling an item you have to deliver w/i 30 days |
| 13:49.48 | bluspacecow | i cant spell some words |
| 13:49.55 | bluspacecow | like aluminunm |
| 13:50.03 | Ackis | no one can spell taht work |
| 13:50.04 | Ackis | *word |
| 13:51.23 | bluspacecow | so finally got my Nickserv problems worked out .... mibbit had logs of when i last used my password :D |
| 13:53.30 | foxlit | aluminum. |
| 13:53.37 | foxlit | Hm, funny, spell checker complains at aluminium |
| 13:54.07 | bluspacecow | oohhh shiney |
| 13:54.32 | foxlit | Question: I want a font-string to expand to fill available space... vertically |
| 13:54.49 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: ITEM_SET_NAME = "%1$s (%2$d/%3$d)"; -- Set name (2/5) |
| 13:54.51 | nevcairiel | german version |
| 13:54.51 | foxlit | Right now, I position it using :SetPoint for LEFT and RIGHT, which defines the middle of where I want it to show |
| 13:55.01 | nevcairiel | ah you had it already |
| 13:55.03 | nevcairiel | i r late |
| 13:55.03 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:55.10 | Xinhuan | yeah annoying to "deformat" that |
| 13:55.13 | foxlit | But that just makes it wrap at a single line |
| 13:55.20 | bluspacecow | mibbit's so cool |
| 13:55.21 | Xinhuan | i figure i will just strip %d%$ |
| 13:55.30 | nevcairiel | what if some language changes the order? |
| 13:55.42 | Xinhuan | no language apart from deDE even uses %1 %2 %3 tokens |
| 13:55.50 | nevcairiel | did you check all? :) |
| 13:55.52 | foxlit | nevcairiel: they'd be senseless |
| 13:55.58 | Xinhuan | i checked TW and ruRU and frFR |
| 13:56.01 | Xinhuan | and CH |
| 13:56.04 | foxlit | Although perhaps [1/2] Foo has a right to exist |
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| 13:57.48 | foxlit | Aha. |
| 13:57.56 | foxlit | I have to use a bullshit :SetWidth() to force it to wrap |
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| 13:58.50 | Neurox | hi |
| 13:58.50 | nevcairiel | fontstrings are a pita :( |
| 13:58.58 | haste | wraps foxlit with bullshit. |
| 13:59.37 | Neurox | probably the wrong place to ask this but I have Chatter atm and it removes the background of the tabs and thats good I like it but I also want the tabs to be visible always not just when the chat frame is being hovered over |
| 13:59.44 | Neurox | whats the easiest way to do that |
| 13:59.45 | bluspacecow | sprays foxlit with bullshit-off |
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| 14:03.08 | bluspacecow | so the bg of your chat boxes is transparent atm Neurox ? |
| 14:03.45 | Neurox | the background of the chat tabs is, so it just has the name of the chat window there but that isnt the problem I want the text to be visible all the time and not just when my cursor is over it |
| 14:04.17 | foxlit | eep. |
| 14:04.26 | foxlit | GetCursorInfo() is always nil at CURSOR_UPDATE |
| 14:04.33 | bluspacecow | hmmm how about setting the chatbox to not fade out ? |
| 14:04.49 | Neurox | and I would do that how o.O |
| 14:05.20 | bluspacecow | idk look in the settings for chat fade options |
| 14:05.30 | bluspacecow | <---- uses prat-3.0 not chatter |
| 14:08.09 | dardack | yea i love prat |
| 14:09.04 | Neurox | prat cant even make the tabs transparent though |
| 14:09.30 | bluspacecow | thought that was a default UI option |
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| 14:10.29 | Neurox | not any that I can find |
| 14:10.32 | bluspacecow | afaik transparent chat windows are a default UI option |
| 14:11.08 | bluspacecow | right click tab -> background is default UI |
| 14:11.26 | Neurox | It's not the window thats transparent |
| 14:11.27 | Neurox | It's the tab |
| 14:11.46 | bluspacecow | i dont under stand ...can you paste a screenshot of what you mean ? |
| 14:13.06 | Neurox | http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5042/sssssp.jpg |
| 14:13.17 | Neurox | only the text is visible for the tab itself |
| 14:17.13 | bluspacecow | so you want to the tab always visible ? |
| 14:17.48 | bluspacecow | prat-3.0 can do that |
| 14:17.49 | Neurox | the text yes |
| 14:17.57 | Neurox | prat makes it flash constantly |
| 14:18.18 | bluspacecow | when ? |
| 14:18.31 | bluspacecow | im sitting here watching lighting bolts go through one of my chat windows |
| 14:18.38 | bluspacecow | its transparent and tab is transparent |
| 14:18.48 | bluspacecow | and its not flashing |
| 14:18.49 | Neurox | Is the text still there? |
| 14:19.00 | Neurox | The frame name? |
| 14:19.08 | Nitra | That is an option in Prat, disable it if you don't like the flashing |
| 14:19.18 | bluspacecow | nope no flashing |
| 14:19.38 | Neurox | Flashed all the time for me, would flash when my mouse went over the chat frame and again on the way out |
| 14:19.42 | Neurox | most annoying thing ever |
| 14:19.43 | bluspacecow | the bolts flying straight through behind all the text |
| 14:19.54 | bluspacecow | i cant get it to flash at all |
| 14:19.57 | bluspacecow | Nitra |
| 14:20.06 | bluspacecow | what module does the flashing ? |
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| 14:20.28 | Nitra | No idea, I just remember setting it off for a few months ago |
| 14:20.53 | bluspacecow | prat-3.0 you can turn off modules you don't need. i dont have the flashing on mine. |
| 14:20.55 | Neurox | I basically just the want the frame to be unreactive to cursor movement at all |
| 14:21.10 | Neurox | The flashing was a sideeffect of the perma-visible tabs |
| 14:21.21 | bluspacecow | i just turned on the chattabs |
| 14:21.26 | bluspacecow | my tabs are perma visible |
| 14:21.32 | bluspacecow | i dont get any flashing |
| 14:23.12 | bluspacecow | theres even a "no flashing" option |
| 14:29.43 | Neurox | right I've installed prat and theres no option for them to be perma visible or to remove the background of the tabs |
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| 14:30.57 | Neurox | ok theyre perma visible but they still flash when my mouse goes over the chat frame |
| 14:31.37 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:31.56 | Neurox | they still flash when I go over the frame... |
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| 15:11.54 | kapipi | Hello, I am wondering if I can somehow get the name or id of a spell by clicking on it in the spellbook? |
| 15:12.47 | jnwhiteh | i mean.. |
| 15:12.52 | jnwhiteh | you can query it via the API |
| 15:13.00 | jnwhiteh | is that not sufficient? |
| 15:13.25 | kapipi | I couldnt find a function to query that in the api |
| 15:14.09 | kapipi | i could find one which gets the frame under the cursor, then i could call getname on that, but couldnt find equivalent for getting a spell name |
| 15:14.41 | Fisker- | jnwhiteh is here |
| 15:14.42 | Fisker- | fleeeeeeeeeee |
| 15:16.57 | Gotai | kapipi, the fontstrings are called buttonname.."SpellName" and buttonname.."SubSpellName". |
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| 15:20.22 | kapipi | Gotai could you elaborate? (Im new to lua / wow addons |
| 15:21.15 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:21.22 | jnwhiteh | prints the info about the first spell in yoru spellbook |
| 15:22.16 | kapipi | What I was looking for was more, to get the name or id of a spell that the user clicks on in the spellbook. So i dont know any id or name a priori. |
| 15:23.15 | jnwhiteh | yes you do know the id |
| 15:23.21 | jnwhiteh | you knwo the page they are on, and the id of the button they clicked |
| 15:23.24 | jnwhiteh | from this you can et all the information you need |
| 15:23.37 | kapipi | And where do I know that from? |
| 15:24.03 | kapipi | Does an event fire when they click it? |
| 15:24.51 | jnwhiteh | the OnClick widget handler fires |
| 15:24.54 | jnwhiteh | as does PreClick and PostClick |
| 15:25.06 | jnwhiteh | within these you can :GetID() |
| 15:25.17 | jnwhiteh | you should look at Clique, it does all of this. |
| 15:25.41 | kapipi | I did, but it was a bit too much to understand atm. |
| 15:26.20 | Kandoko | Anyone familiar with Scite and its lua compiler command line calls, inside the lua.properties file? |
| 15:26.48 | Kandoko | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:29.30 | foxlit | kapipi: the question that people really should be asking is "what for?" |
| 15:29.49 | foxlit | Do you need to act on the spell information immediately, or do you want to do something to the spell on the cursor at a later point? |
| 15:32.48 | kapipi | I need the user to choose 2 spells from their spellbook, to use in configuring my addon. |
| 15:33.05 | kapipi | Thought it would be smart if they could just click on the spells in the spellbook. |
| 15:33.17 | jnwhiteh | then Clique shows you precisely how to do this |
| 15:33.23 | kapipi | But, might be easier in the end |
| 15:33.39 | foxlit | Clique relies on the fact that nobody is customizing their spell book frame :) |
| 15:33.43 | kapipi | just have a config page with a drop down menu, or maybe a mini map button |
| 15:33.48 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: so? |
| 15:34.03 | jnwhiteh | and that's not entirely true. |
| 15:34.05 | foxlit | It's not an unreasonable assumption, but you could do better. |
| 15:34.21 | jnwhiteh | No one does it |
| 15:34.23 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/content/store/rkc.png << box in a box in a box in a box in a box bugs me |
| 15:34.32 | jnwhiteh | and if they do, they should change what is already there, imo |
| 15:34.46 | jnwhiteh | and they can manually enter :P |
| 15:35.01 | kapipi | I think actually Im going to postpone this part and work on learning how to do configuration pages instead :-D |
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| 15:35.53 | kapipi | By the way, do you guys put licensing info in your mods, or something like "disclaimer: use at your own risk)? |
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| 15:40.39 | dardack | i don't and have been told no licensing means ARR |
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| 15:42.58 | Wobin | It does |
| 15:43.49 | Wobin | And you shouldn't need a disclaimer, because, really, you have no responsibility to make it work =) There are no addon 'standards' we have to keep to =P |
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| 15:48.49 | kapipi | Wobin: ok, so do you recommend any specific license? I was thinking GPL or Apache? |
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| 15:52.33 | jnwhiteh | without knowing what you want, no |
| 15:53.14 | Wobin | Generally speaking, ARR is what you want, unless you have specific requirements |
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| 15:53.44 | jnwhiteh | sadly =. |
| 15:53.46 | jnwhiteh | but yeah |
| 15:54.19 | kapipi | Well, hmm, all I really want is that noone restricts people from using what I wrote, but that they attribute it to me. |
| 15:55.47 | Wobin | BSD perhaps |
| 15:56.21 | jnwhiteh | if you dont care about redistribution, BSD or MIT |
| 15:56.48 | Wobin | or, aye, MIT |
| 15:57.29 | Wobin | they just basically force the people using it to include a copyright notice with your name in it |
| 15:57.47 | Wobin | which is all the attribution there is |
| 15:58.50 | kapipi | hmm |
| 16:01.37 | kapipi | What i am looking for is something like CC-sharealike-attribution i guess, but for software |
| 16:05.24 | jnwhiteh | why SA? |
| 16:05.27 | jnwhiteh | that's viral =/ |
| 16:05.36 | jnwhiteh | I prefer freedom |
| 16:06.14 | kapipi | hmm |
| 16:06.18 | nevcairiel | Wouldn't you like to know what someone made out of your stuff? :) |
| 16:06.32 | jnwhiteh | depends on the stuff |
| 16:06.33 | kapipi | well, I dont want someone to reduce other's freedom |
| 16:07.07 | jnwhiteh | since we're talking addons, I'll leave this alone. |
| 16:07.11 | kapipi | hehe yeah |
| 16:07.56 | kapipi | guess its not much as an issue |
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| 16:08.13 | jnwhiteh | but I believe that one of the freedoms you restrict with a viral license is the freedom of real developers who want to use your product commercially |
| 16:08.20 | sylvanaar | ding ding |
| 16:08.33 | sylvanaar | my ears are burninng |
| 16:08.44 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 16:09.04 | nevcairiel | wouldn't it be nice to get a piece of the cake when someone uses your code in a commercial project? =) |
| 16:09.17 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 16:09.27 | foxlit | You don't preclude that with a SA license, as long as it isn't the only license you offer. |
| 16:09.30 | sylvanaar | im already fat |
| 16:09.30 | jnwhiteh | tehy have to attribute me in the documentation/license |
| 16:09.33 | kapipi | what have I started :-D |
| 16:09.38 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: of course, that goes without saying... |
| 16:09.51 | Kaso | a cake licence? i like this idea |
| 16:10.04 | zGhost | or you could craft your own license |
| 16:10.07 | nevcairiel | like the beer license |
| 16:10.10 | jnwhiteh | and how many developers have taken that approach, and have falled off the face of the planet |
| 16:10.14 | jnwhiteh | no longer able to grant "other" licenses. |
| 16:10.21 | Kaso | "viral licence" is such a propoganda term as well |
| 16:10.22 | jnwhiteh | a lot |
| 16:10.26 | nevcairiel | when you use the software, and meet the dev some time, go drink a beer with him =) |
| 16:10.31 | jnwhiteh | Kaso: i think it describes it perfectly |
| 16:10.42 | jnwhiteh | the license spreads from project to project |
| 16:10.49 | nevcairiel | stupid GPL |
| 16:10.57 | zGhost | well, that's the whole purpose of the GPL |
| 16:11.10 | zGhost | that's why you don't license projects GPL if you don't want that effect |
| 16:11.12 | Kaso | jnwhiteh viral has inheriently negative connotations, some people see that as a positive properity of a licence |
| 16:11.15 | zGhost | or choose GPLd projects as your base |
| 16:11.16 | jnwhiteh | a purpose i disagree with, simple enough |
| 16:11.20 | sylvanaar | i used GPL for prat - because it was viral |
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| 16:11.32 | Kaso | hence people who use viral are usually trying to use it as a FUD type tatatic against free licences |
| 16:11.35 | jnwhiteh | indeed, if i wanted a viral license, I'd be happy to call it one, and use it. |
| 16:11.38 | jnwhiteh | Kaso: except.. no. |
| 16:11.47 | jnwhiteh | I would/have/do use that to describe the license when I DO support it |
| 16:11.50 | jnwhiteh | which is in alot of places. |
| 16:11.53 | zGhost | jnwhiteh: sounds like your buying into FUD |
| 16:12.00 | jnwhiteh | or I'm able to think for myself. |
| 16:12.01 | jnwhiteh | thanks.! |
| 16:12.03 | zGhost | when you could just choose not to license GPL, or fork or use GPL code |
| 16:12.20 | jnwhiteh | .. huh? |
| 16:12.33 | kapipi | hmm, does dandelion by chance hang out here under another name? |
| 16:12.35 | jnwhiteh | I DO have HAVE licensed GPL |
| 16:12.36 | jnwhiteh | so.. |
| 16:12.39 | sylvanaar | i think that there should be a "Dont be a dick" liscense. |
| 16:12.47 | sylvanaar | that's all i'd need |
| 16:12.47 | nevcairiel | I'm sure there is |
| 16:12.59 | jnwhiteh | DWTFYW license |
| 16:13.00 | jnwhiteh | imo |
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| 16:13.34 | nevcairiel | the Beerware-License, imho |
| 16:13.52 | jnwhiteh | idd |
| 16:14.33 | kapipi | So many people with assertive opinions about licensing.. I'm just confused :-D |
| 16:14.47 | nevcairiel | I do believe in Open Source, and i usually use BSD for that, just with addons its another topic |
| 16:14.56 | zGhost | kapipi: there's a reason there are multiple license |
| 16:14.58 | zGhost | s |
| 16:15.13 | zGhost | licenses aren't one size fits all |
| 16:15.56 | sylvanaar | Creative-Common-Courtesy |
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| 16:16.45 | kapipi | I thought that share-alike was "less viral" than GPL, since its not share under identical license, but "same kind of license" |
| 16:17.12 | zGhost | that wording is flawed IMO |
| 16:17.15 | jnwhiteh | CC isn't meant for code |
| 16:17.19 | zGhost | "same kind of license" is subjective |
| 16:17.21 | jnwhiteh | hence the problem |
| 16:17.41 | kapipi | well I believe thats the wording youll find on CC's site |
| 16:17.43 | nevcairiel | doesn't GPL also say "same kind"? you can use a gpl compatible license, doesnt have to be gpl itself |
| 16:18.10 | sylvanaar | GPL is a minefield |
| 16:19.46 | zGhost | it's all subjective much of it hasn't been tested in court |
| 16:19.53 | sylvanaar | thats right |
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| 16:24.48 | kapipi | what does "and to permit persons to whom the Software is |
| 16:24.55 | kapipi | furnished to do so" mean (MIT license) |
| 16:25.08 | kapipi | http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php |
| 16:25.16 | kapipi | (not native speaker) |
| 16:27.03 | sylvanaar | i just dont like 100% open liscenses - basically because of what happened with WAU |
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| 16:27.18 | jnwhiteh | indeed |
| 16:27.20 | jnwhiteh | its soured us all |
| 16:27.23 | jnwhiteh | but that's just for addons |
| 16:27.31 | kapipi | You mean WAU -> Curse updater? |
| 16:27.34 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 16:27.56 | sylvanaar | i mean WAU when i was still working on it |
| 16:28.09 | kapipi | sylvanaar: by 100% open you mean enabling derivative works to have other licenses? |
| 16:28.45 | kapipi | not sure what happened to WAU, but it is sorely missed |
| 16:31.46 | sylvanaar | basically - someone was being an ass and using my code when they knew it was against my wishes |
| 16:32.34 | kapipi | :-( |
| 16:33.22 | sylvanaar | that's just wrong no matter what the liscense says |
| 16:33.55 | sylvanaar | its old news though |
| 16:34.04 | kapipi | ok, well im new so... :-D |
| 16:34.26 | nevcairiel | the whole wowmatrix issue and previous shit just drove most of the regulars here away from open licenses for addons |
| 16:34.43 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 16:34.45 | jnwhiteh | wowmatrix wins |
| 16:34.57 | kapipi | nevcairiel: you mean towards "viral" licenses? |
| 16:35.04 | nevcairiel | no |
| 16:35.09 | nevcairiel | towards all rights reserved |
| 16:35.14 | kapipi | oh |
| 16:35.18 | nevcairiel | so we can control distribution |
| 16:35.35 | jnwhiteh | no licenses |
| 16:35.39 | jnwhiteh | other than the one we give to our users |
| 16:35.41 | jnwhiteh | to use it =) |
| 16:35.43 | kapipi | well Im not up to date on any of these issues, all I know is as a user, the move from WAU to curseupdater was a stepback |
| 16:35.43 | Demos_Sema | then again the code is avalible for anyone |
| 16:35.59 | tekkub | or just plain no license at all ^^ |
| 16:36.03 | nevcairiel | just that the code is readable doesnt mean you are allowed to use it |
| 16:36.28 | nevcairiel | all rights reserved is just an explicit form for "no license" =) |
| 16:36.29 | jnwhiteh | ding 76 |
| 16:36.47 | tekkub | fries are done |
| 16:38.30 | foxlit | # It doesn't matter to my monkey... it doesn't matter 'cause he's only a chimpanzee. |
| 16:39.34 | kapipi | im thinking of using MIT license, since its short :-D |
| 16:40.07 | kapipi | but, ill postpone it, and keep it implicity all rights reserved |
| 16:40.21 | kapipi | at least until I get in contact with the author of the mod that inspired me |
| 16:40.25 | sylvanaar | perhaps you should not liscense it unless asked to |
| 16:41.27 | sylvanaar | the best would be something like liscense A turns into liscense B after time delta C from the date it was last updated |
| 16:41.55 | sylvanaar | the "I don't give a shit anymore, do what you want" liscense |
| 16:43.43 | sylvanaar | for addons, that'd be helpful |
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| 16:46.46 | sylvanaar | anyone know of a combat log addon which I can use for my mana log addon? so i dont have to reimplement a combat log |
| 16:48.28 | nevcairiel | i wrote something that can show a second combatlog in another chat frame for 2.4, but i never updated it |
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| 16:50.39 | kapipi | By the way whats the purpose of using rock for your configuration sheets rather than just putting it in the blizzard addons frame? |
| 16:54.20 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel i just want to make a combat log without having to manage a combat log frame and handle text formatting |
| 16:56.41 | nevcairiel | I just captured the events and ran them through the formating func provided by the game |
| 16:56.56 | nevcairiel | add a config GUI to provide filtering, and that was my addon |
| 16:57.05 | sylvanaar | yeah, thats an option i was considering |
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| 16:59.04 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-13700/ |
| 16:59.09 | nevcairiel | its still there if you want to steal some code |
| 17:00.25 | sylvanaar | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=16481 |
| 17:00.31 | sylvanaar | thats what im trying to do |
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| 17:01.34 | sylvanaar | yeah, that code does look useful nev thanks |
| 17:02.25 | nevcairiel | Looks like a neat idea, although i'm not sure if i would use it =) |
| 17:02.50 | sylvanaar | its r&d atm |
| 17:03.23 | sylvanaar | to see if I even want to develop it |
| 17:04.57 | sylvanaar | ideally, i just want to provide the data so other addons can use it |
| 17:06.12 | sylvanaar | that combat log was just an example. ie. i know how long you have left in the 5sr when you cast that spell - so i know approx how much regen you lose by casting it |
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| 17:06.47 | sylvanaar | that just one application |
| 17:07.38 | Kraps | holy frijoles you can tab-complete names in the in-game chat |
| 17:07.53 | Kraps | or maybe its a Prat thing |
| 17:09.34 | sylvanaar | you know bliz has code to tab complete names |
| 17:10.02 | kapipi | one thing i wondered by prat if it was able to persist chat history (not command history) |
| 17:10.27 | kapipi | would be nice, especially when you try to chat while frantically reloading your ui and hacking your mod .-D |
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| 17:10.37 | sylvanaar | it could |
| 17:11.43 | sylvanaar | just doesnt |
| 17:13.26 | sylvanaar | it doesnt really use any of prats core support functionality - so it could just be its own addon |
| 17:18.06 | Kraps | 10k execute crit woot |
| 17:18.55 | Kraps | come on mace skill |
| 17:20.45 | Kraps | is the hit cap for a 2h different than a 1h? |
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| 17:29.59 | Wobin | ps sylvanaar, it's "license" |
| 17:30.07 | Wobin | (sorry, it was bugging me to no end =)) |
| 17:30.46 | sylvanaar | spelling is the first thing to go |
| 17:31.05 | Wobin | I thought it was memory =P |
| 17:31.06 | sylvanaar | my fav is exhaulted |
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| 17:31.18 | Wobin | ugh |
| 17:31.21 | sylvanaar | or duel spec |
| 17:32.11 | Wobin | Or Medievil |
| 17:32.24 | sylvanaar | rouge |
| 17:32.49 | Wobin | ugh, I -still- have to triple check whenever I type 'dual' and 'duel' |
| 17:32.54 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 17:33.11 | sylvanaar | you have seen the Mispelled mod? |
| 17:33.16 | Wobin | It's like how I always double take when I see "they're/their/there" used correctly on the internet |
| 17:33.30 | sylvanaar | its pretty neat |
| 17:33.39 | sylvanaar | lots'o'memory but still cool |
| 17:33.47 | Duman | does it autocorrect u -> you, r -> are, etc? ;-P |
| 17:33.53 | sylvanaar | no, it hilights |
| 17:34.14 | sylvanaar | that was elloquence that did that |
| 17:34.24 | Duman | ahh |
| 17:34.26 | Duman | hehe |
| 17:34.31 | Wobin | zomg |
| 17:34.34 | zenzelezz | it amuses me how often "misspell" is misspelled |
| 17:34.36 | sylvanaar | but god damn elloquence had alot of patterns |
| 17:34.36 | Wobin | 7 more addons on Curse needed |
| 17:34.41 | Wobin | and they hit 4k |
| 17:34.44 | Duman | zenz I was thinking the same ;) |
| 17:34.54 | sylvanaar | and i mean ALOT OF PATTERNS |
| 17:35.38 | Wobin | "Spell checking is very fast; but I don't want to check unneedlessly." |
| 17:35.38 | sylvanaar | maybe the name "Mispelled" is clever |
| 17:35.41 | Wobin | unneedlessly? |
| 17:35.50 | Wobin | it's actually spelled correctly for the addon =P |
| 17:36.34 | sylvanaar | i wonder if elloquence is still in development - i could steal some of its patterns |
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| 17:37.20 | sylvanaar | i spelled it wrong |
| 17:37.22 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 17:37.27 | Wobin | hehe |
| 17:37.43 | Wobin | fan update? |
| 17:37.46 | Wobin | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/eloquence-fan-update.aspx |
| 17:38.08 | kapipi | Didnt WAU use to resolve library dependencies for mods? It seems all mods include dependencies now. Or was it always that way? |
| 17:38.20 | sylvanaar | it did |
| 17:38.25 | sylvanaar | so does the CC |
| 17:38.31 | sylvanaar | but |
| 17:38.47 | sylvanaar | nothing does it in game anymore |
| 17:39.04 | sylvanaar | ACP tries - but without x-embeds - it cant |
| 17:39.14 | Wobin | night all |
| 17:41.19 | kapipi | so CC can install the mods, but the game doesnt know how to load dependencies? |
| 17:41.33 | kapipi | s/mods/dependencies/ |
| 17:41.49 | kapipi | nice bot :-D |
| 17:45.26 | sylvanaar | it does |
| 17:45.31 | sylvanaar | but they are disabled |
| 17:46.00 | sylvanaar | enable everything and you will be fine |
| 17:53.02 | kapipi | ok, i was more just curious why it was now common practice to include all libraries in each addon |
| 18:00.26 | jnwhiteh | it's always been |
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| 18:07.51 | jnwhiteh | shit |
| 18:08.00 | jnwhiteh | we've 5 quests short of the dragonblight achievement! |
| 18:08.23 | Osstia | have you done the undercity chain? |
| 18:08.28 | Osstia | oops horde only |
| 18:08.37 | foxlit | nah |
| 18:08.41 | foxlit | it has its equivalents |
| 18:08.46 | foxlit | But you don't need dit for the achievement |
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| 18:09.02 | jnwhiteh | well we're 5 short |
| 18:09.05 | jnwhiteh | and can't find any more :P |
| 18:09.18 | alestane | There are some goblins and human outposts scattered aroun northern Dragonblight. |
| 18:09.19 | foxlit | Goblins? |
| 18:09.30 | foxlit | Also, the magnataur quests |
| 18:09.34 | Osstia | and the big ice guy |
| 18:09.45 | jnwhiteh | done and done, afaik |
| 18:10.24 | foxlit | ice giants? |
| 18:10.29 | jnwhiteh | so |
| 18:10.38 | jnwhiteh | Grizzly Hills or Zul'drak next? |
| 18:10.43 | foxlit | GH |
| 18:10.49 | Osstia | i do Grizz |
| 18:10.53 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 18:10.53 | foxlit | It's not a choice |
| 18:15.05 | Thunder_Child | i HATE gh |
| 18:15.37 | Thunder_Child | of course i hate zul'drak almost as much |
| 18:15.44 | jnwhiteh | i've never done either |
| 18:15.49 | jnwhiteh | i just want to level =/ |
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| 18:16.12 | nevcairiel | i liked both zones tbh :( |
| 18:16.25 | Thunder_Child | gh was to crowded for my tastes |
| 18:16.34 | nevcairiel | thats not ghs fault |
| 18:16.42 | Thunder_Child | much of the same issue with zul'draj |
| 18:16.54 | Thunder_Child | s/j/k/ |
| 18:16.59 | Osstia | in gh you throw bombs and scare horses. thats just good old fashioned fun |
| 18:19.18 | dardack | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.43 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.25 | dardack | yea something like bring his pack of goods |
| 18:24.29 | dardack | to another place |
| 18:28.07 | ZorbaTHut | I'm not a huge fan of GH, I just don't like the layout for some reason. I think ZD is awesome though |
| 18:29.15 | dardack | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?wquest=12469&source=live&locale=enUS |
| 18:29.32 | dardack | foxlit what i just posted is the quest |
| 18:30.00 | dardack | also did you do the quest for the stone/goblin dude near each other, one has you like collect young worms, and you gotta kill a big worm or something |
| 18:33.21 | _rane | any recommendations for an addon that shows distinctively if target has (dispellable) magic auras? |
| 18:36.28 | foxlit | dardack: breadcrumb, doesn't count against achievement, iirc. |
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| 18:44.14 | foxlit | every 2.5 hours |
| 18:44.36 | Kraps | oh we won |
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| 18:51.07 | ZorbaTHut | we only win WG when the horde are killing our leaders :( |
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| 18:51.28 | kergoth_ | erm, whats the site with the diffs between wow ui api versions again? |
| 18:51.30 | kergoth_ | :) |
| 18:53.43 | jnwhiteh | kergoth_: wowcompares.com |
| 18:53.48 | jnwhiteh | and apidiff.pastey.net |
| 18:53.52 | kergoth_ | thanks |
| 19:00.08 | Xinhuan | kergoth_: git://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source.git |
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| 19:41.58 | k1net1k | using Grid, is there any way to show 'test' raid players, or just go join wintergrasp ? |
| 19:45.10 | zenzelezz | tickles Cairenn for no apparent reason |
| 19:45.17 | Cairenn | giggles |
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| 19:50.15 | airtonix | http://www.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/eng/rotsnake.gif |
| 19:51.14 | airtonix | don't look if you are prone to motion sickness |
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| 20:01.33 | k1net1k | :( |
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| 20:11.58 | foxlit | # One million monkeys... |
| 20:23.28 | jnwhiteh | Paladins |
| 20:23.36 | jnwhiteh | remember how we were talking about Yogg-Saron's Dominate Mind |
| 20:23.47 | jnwhiteh | http://i43.tinypic.com/29et3ko.jpg |
| 20:23.52 | jnwhiteh | and you told me that paladins can't cleanse it |
| 20:23.59 | jnwhiteh | apparently they can. |
| 20:24.56 | nevcairiel | Maybe they changed it to make paladongs more viable |
| 20:25.05 | nevcairiel | but you used to require a offensive dispell |
| 20:25.09 | nevcairiel | like priests or shamans |
| 20:25.23 | jnwhiteh | well with Grid+Clique |
| 20:25.27 | jnwhiteh | he's getting "nothing to dispel" |
| 20:26.02 | nevcairiel | he shouldn't be able to cast on him at all |
| 20:26.06 | nevcairiel | because its an enemy unit |
| 20:26.10 | nevcairiel | so you require an offensive spell |
| 20:26.17 | jnwhiteh | this is my understanding as well |
| 20:26.23 | jnwhiteh | but in that screenshot, he cleaned it off. |
| 20:27.27 | nevcairiel | shrug, i dunno |
| 20:28.21 | jnwhiteh | I just dunno what to tell him |
| 20:28.28 | jnwhiteh | there's nothing I can even begin to lok at |
| 20:28.30 | jnwhiteh | I don't even have a level 80 |
| 20:28.33 | jnwhiteh | let alone one at the end-game |
| 20:28.44 | nevcairiel | its nothing that clique could even cause |
| 20:28.52 | jnwhiteh | i know |
| 20:28.55 | jnwhiteh | but when he clicks the action button |
| 20:28.56 | jnwhiteh | it works |
| 20:29.01 | jnwhiteh | i tell him this is because its working on his target |
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| 20:35.37 | Fisker- | he's haxing |
| 20:38.20 | airtonix | where in that screenshot does it indicate a paladin cleansed an enemy unit? |
| 20:38.35 | airtonix | oh right nvm |
| 20:39.10 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 20:39.11 | jnwhiteh | combat log |
| 20:40.20 | airtonix | i;ve not been that far into uldaur yet, thornevalt is a mob yogg brings into the fight? |
| 20:40.32 | Fisker- | you know what i love jnwhiteh ? |
| 20:40.58 | zenzelezz | I think Thornevalt is a player who's been mind controlled? |
| 20:43.42 | sylvanaar | wow eloquence still works - i was seeing "and so on" hilighted in white in my chat |
| 20:44.07 | sylvanaar | and they were really saing "and shit" |
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| 20:44.46 | zenzelezz | eloquence as in the word or an addon? |
| 20:44.58 | sylvanaar | addon |
| 20:45.00 | Fisker- | goodbye cruel jnwhiteh |
| 20:53.17 | alestane | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/05/16/funny-pictures-puppy-eyes/ |
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| 20:59.18 | airtonix | alestane, fake! |
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| 21:03.03 | porkbun | hello |
| 21:03.07 | Cairenn | hi |
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| 21:06.25 | porkbun | is there a faq regarding rules of use for wowinterface? |
| 21:07.02 | Cairenn | what do you mean "rules of use"? |
| 21:08.06 | porkbun | well wowi provides an svn depot for devs, right? say i wanted to all my development at home because i dislike svn |
| 21:08.14 | porkbun | and just upload numbered release versions to wowi |
| 21:08.15 | Cairenn | ToS: http://www.mmointerface.com/tos.php Site Rules: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158 Upload Rules: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23667 |
| 21:08.18 | porkbun | ahhh okay |
| 21:08.20 | Cairenn | okay |
| 21:08.20 | porkbun | thanks much :D |
| 21:08.26 | Cairenn | you're welcome :) |
| 21:08.34 | porkbun | goes to do zee clickies |
| 21:08.35 | Cairenn | sounds like you want the last one |
| 21:08.41 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23667 |
| 21:09.36 | Cairenn | You may also find this helpful: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7633-WoWIModUploader.html |
| 21:10.32 | porkbun | ooh complicated :) |
| 21:10.41 | Cairenn | you don't have to use it |
| 21:10.51 | Cairenn | just some people like it |
| 21:10.58 | Cairenn | it's easy enough to upload |
| 21:11.14 | porkbun | it does seem that way :) thanks for the information! |
| 21:11.22 | Cairenn | you're welcome |
| 21:11.34 | porkbun | the hardest problem of getting started is finding something that seems useful to do and yet is not complicated :P |
| 21:13.22 | porkbun | gbye :) |
| 21:13.27 | Cairenn | bye |
| 21:17.52 | Industrial | Can anyone download http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/download11935-EventHorizon correctly? |
| 21:18.24 | Industrial | or is the zip broken |
| 21:18.53 | Cairenn | downloaded fine for me |
| 21:18.56 | zenzelezz | I didn't get any complaints from "unzip" |
| 21:19.20 | Industrial | hm, weird *cleans cache* |
| 21:20.52 | Industrial | works after I restarted firefox :S |
| 21:21.51 | Aezay | Does anyone know a lot about recieving donations using PayPal? |
| 21:22.39 | Kraftman | i know that i tried it and gave up |
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| 21:23.01 | porkbun | i return :D |
| 21:23.31 | Aezay | just seems like you can only accept 5 donations with a personal account type |
| 21:24.02 | Cairenn | porkbun: wb |
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| 21:24.14 | Cairenn | Aezay: not sure, sorry =/ |
| 21:25.11 | porkbun | can anyone here answer a quick question about lua and the wow event system? |
| 21:25.32 | Cairenn | ~asktoask |
| 21:25.32 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 21:25.42 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 21:25.47 | porkbun | okeeday :P |
| 21:26.04 | Qzot | ~asktoanswer |
| 21:26.15 | Qzot | He didn't ask to ask. He asked if someone could answer. :P |
| 21:26.38 | Cairenn | ~lart Qzot |
| 21:26.38 | purl | tries to shut Qzot up |
| 21:26.44 | Cairenn | boring |
| 21:26.48 | Cairenn | ~lart Qzot |
| 21:26.48 | purl | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps Qzot |
| 21:26.52 | porkbun | so i'm reading wowwiki, and i register events in a frame, and then i can set up a function handler using SetScript? |
| 21:26.53 | Cairenn | better |
| 21:26.57 | Aezay | Cairenn, I'll try and look a bit more around to see if I can learn some more about PayPal then |
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| 21:27.11 | kmcguire | hehe, http://www.swimbots.com/. |
| 21:27.16 | Qzot | ~lart Qzot |
| 21:27.16 | purl | blasts Qzot to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
| 21:27.18 | porkbun | but it seems like a frame can only accept one function handler, even though it can register multiple events? |
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| 21:27.22 | Qzot | Mmm. |
| 21:27.31 | Cairenn | kmcguire: ROFL |
| 21:27.32 | Qzot | waits. |
| 21:28.15 | Aezay | porkbun, your OnEvent function's second parameter will be the event type |
| 21:28.23 | Qzot | siaopao: It can only accept one script of each type. |
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| 21:29.38 | Qzot | So, yes, even if you have multiple :RegisterEvent, it all goes to the same 'OnEvent' handler. |
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| 21:30.19 | Industrial | Anyone here us macrosequence? ever tried putting a castsequence inside a macrosequence? |
| 21:30.55 | porkbun | so i register function handlers to OnEvent, and the call to register themt akes the function name AND the event it's meant to handle |
| 21:32.02 | Qzot | If I'm understanding you correctly (not 100% sure), then, ah, no. |
| 21:32.16 | porkbun | oh |
| 21:32.29 | Qzot | frame:SetScript('OnEvent', YourFunctionHere) |
| 21:32.45 | Qzot | frame:RegisterEvent('EVENT1') |
| 21:32.46 | Industrial | you handle what function to execute in the event handler |
| 21:32.52 | Qzot | frame:RegisterEvent('EVENT2') |
| 21:33.06 | porkbun | then YourFunctionHere has to figure out which event it was |
| 21:33.07 | Industrial | eg function onevent(frame, event) if event == 'PLAYER_LOGIN' then enable() end end |
| 21:33.12 | porkbun | ah okay |
| 21:33.16 | Qzot | Now you write YourFunctionHere to handle *both* EVENT1 and EVENT2. |
| 21:33.30 | Industrial | actually, I'd use (frame, event, ...) for the arguments |
| 21:33.33 | Qzot | siaopao: Yes, exactly. |
| 21:33.46 | porkbun | i don't suppose lua provides hashmaps? ;) |
| 21:33.58 | Qzot | It provides nothing *but* hashmaps. |
| 21:34.06 | porkbun | sweeet |
| 21:34.19 | porkbun | sorry, coming from a c++ background |
| 21:34.25 | porkbun | mostly hardware programming |
| 21:34.26 | Aezay | hashmaps? |
| 21:34.31 | Qzot | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ |
| 21:34.41 | porkbun | hashmaps are godlike, unless you're on a console or other restricted system |
| 21:34.44 | Industrial | lua> a={b='foo'} c={} c[1]='bar' print(a.b .. c[1]) |
| 21:34.45 | porkbun | then they suck balls |
| 21:34.45 | lua_bot | Industrial: foobar |
| 21:34.52 | Qzot | Aezay: What lua calls "tables" the rest of the world calls "hashmaps" or "associative arrays". |
| 21:35.10 | porkbun | ah. so i should learn some lingo ;) |
| 21:35.12 | Aezay | Qzot, I see |
| 21:35.16 | foxlit | or, hey, "hash tables" |
| 21:35.23 | Qzot | siaopao: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ Give a quick once through. |
| 21:35.32 | Qzot | And then later, commit every line to memory. |
| 21:35.33 | Aezay | I love tables |
| 21:35.48 | porkbun | tables: when you don't care about fragmentation ;) |
| 21:35.56 | Industrial | hehe |
| 21:36.02 | porkbun | there's an stl! wheeeee |
| 21:36.18 | kmcguire | Ok, mirc is registered. He got his 20 dollars worth from my years of use, lol. |
| 21:36.36 | Industrial | I'm doing a C++ class at school and I only have scripting background and I really dont like how stuff like pointers works :p |
| 21:36.37 | porkbun | i didn't register mirc. khaled's face is to sexay to not see it every time i start mirc |
| 21:36.43 | Industrial | hugs the garbage collector |
| 21:36.52 | Qzot | Lua uses the same data structure for arrays and "hashmaps", and plays some games underneath the covers implementation-wise to figure out which one you're (mostly) using in any particular case. |
| 21:36.57 | porkbun | industrial: i have three years of industry experience in c++, and pointers still trip me up every now and then |
| 21:37.01 | kmcguire | I have used it for like 10 years, lol. I sort of owed it. |
| 21:37.01 | zenzelezz | I love pointers, they make me feel powerful |
| 21:37.12 | porkbun | i had a one hour conversation just tossing around 'who should free this pointer' |
| 21:37.16 | Qzot | assigns zenzeless a demerit. |
| 21:37.38 | zenzelezz | kmcguire: I registered mIRC when they had an "all profits this month goes to Red Cross" deal. Two birds in one stone! |
| 21:37.40 | Qzot | Pointers are the reason God invented garbage collection. |
| 21:37.45 | porkbun | haha |
| 21:37.56 | kmcguire | Pointers never go away. |
| 21:37.58 | porkbun | i swear mIRC secretly updated itself when i wasn't looking |
| 21:38.03 | zenzelezz | God had nothing to do with computer languages, or we wouldn't have started out with assemlby |
| 21:38.06 | zenzelezz | nor assembly |
| 21:38.15 | porkbun | r1 and eax |
| 21:38.16 | Qzot | Why you think that? |
| 21:38.20 | Industrial | Question: if I have a castsequence, reset=26 will make it reset after 26 seconds, yes/no ? |
| 21:38.25 | Qzot | We start out with quarks, too, didn't we? |
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| 21:38.29 | porkbun | 26secs fro mthe last time you clicked it |
| 21:38.37 | Industrial | ah, not total? |
| 21:38.41 | porkbun | nopes |
| 21:38.45 | zenzelezz | I should point out I'm an atheist |
| 21:38.46 | porkbun | it's not an absolute time out |
| 21:38.51 | Industrial | no way to do that? |
| 21:39.07 | porkbun | not that i know of. you could use a modifier, like reset=shift/alt/ctrl |
| 21:39.12 | porkbun | or whatever the syntax is |
| 21:39.17 | Industrial | I'm trying to fabricate macros for the macrosequence addon |
| 21:39.24 | Qzot | zenzelezz: Ah, then you're an expert on His character then, I see. |
| 21:39.32 | Industrial | only thing i havent been able to automate on my hunter dps is serpent sting |
| 21:39.56 | Industrial | refreshing it every 26 seconds while I eat chips with salsa sauce while raiding is so hard :( |
| 21:39.56 | zenzelezz | Qzot: I have never let my lack of knowledge stop me from making bold statements |
| 21:40.11 | Qzot | whistles. |
| 21:40.45 | porkbun | i haven't stepped foot into a raid since erm......karazhan |
| 21:41.39 | Industrial | I made the rest of my hunter dps (black arrow, explosive shot, aimed shot, steady shot, trinkets and other 3-5min use buffs etc) all work on 1 button :D |
| 21:41.43 | porkbun | my kingdom for a visual studio lua language plugin |
| 21:41.46 | Industrial | + kill shot |
| 21:44.20 | Qzot | puts a demerit against porkbun's name. |
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| 21:44.55 | Qzot | Industrial: I've switched to EHZ for my hunter. Better dps than any single rotation. I customized the heck out of it, tho. |
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| 21:45.47 | Industrial | EHZ? |
| 21:45.54 | Industrial | Qzot: I'm using macrosequence |
| 21:46.04 | Qzot | Yes. EHZ. I'm using EHZ. |
| 21:46.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone here done vista 64 driver development? |
| 21:46.31 | Industrial | Qzot: .. What's EHZ, what does it stand for where do I get it etc |
| 21:46.41 | porkbun | rejects Qzot's demerit |
| 21:47.33 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: an intriguing question, what are you doing? |
| 21:47.37 | Qzot | Not sure I should be telling people. After all, my reputation as a high dps hunter depends on most hunters not being able to crank the dps. |
| 21:48.15 | Qzot | Event Horizon: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11935-EventHorizon.html |
| 21:48.41 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz: trying to sign a driver with a cert, which was issued by my (installed) CA |
| 21:48.45 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz: it refuses to install |
| 21:48.47 | Qzot | I customized it by taking the recommended shot priority from the elitist jerks SV hunter thread. |
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| 21:50.30 | reppgoa | hi all, I am trying to update a mod for the community and running into a few problems. Is there anyone with more knowledge than my own that can take a look and give me a helping hand? |
| 21:50.37 | ScytheBlade1 | ~asktoask |
| 21:50.38 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 21:50.49 | reppgoa | =P |
| 21:50.51 | reppgoa | gotcha |
| 21:51.21 | Industrial | Qzot: isnt the recommended shot prio just kill shot explosive shot black arrow aimed shot steady shot? |
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| 21:51.44 | reppgoa | I am trying to update ccComboPoints on wowui, having problems. I am pretty sure its a syntax error, but I dont know |
| 21:51.56 | reppgoa | I can post a pastebin if it helps |
| 21:52.02 | reppgoa | its onl 50 or so lines of code |
| 21:52.04 | jnwhiteh | just pastey the error |
| 21:52.05 | reppgoa | only* |
| 21:52.11 | reppgoa | ok, one sec |
| 21:53.34 | Qzot | Kill shot > Explosive Shot > Black Arrow > Aimed/Multishot (depends on sitution) > Serpent Sting > Steady Shot |
| 21:54.13 | foxlit | Can I get at the FontString used by an EditBox to display inner text? |
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| 21:54.32 | Kraps | arms without a pocket healer sucks balls |
| 21:54.43 | jnwhiteh | !api GetFont |
| 21:54.43 | lua_bot | Found 5 possible results for 'GetFont': SimpleHTML:GetFontObject, SimpleHTML:GetFont, FontInstance:GetFontObject, FontInstance:GetFont, Button:GetFontString |
| 21:55.02 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: GetFont, GetFontObject |
| 21:55.06 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/EditBox |
| 21:55.22 | jnwhiteh | will that work |
| 21:55.54 | foxlit | I'm not so much interested in the font |
| 21:55.59 | jnwhiteh | because an EditBox is a child of FontInstance.. so it doesn't really have an "inner font string" |
| 21:56.03 | foxlit | as I'm interested in computing the width of the text in it |
| 21:56.24 | jnwhiteh | Nope, I don't think that's possible |
| 21:56.33 | jnwhiteh | you'd have to create a new font string using the same font object, and then settext and getwidth |
| 21:56.44 | jnwhiteh | since FontString and EditBox are disjoint |
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| 22:00.09 | reppgoa | heres the code and the error i recieve is on line 48 and it syas "attempting to call a nil value" |
| 22:00.13 | reppgoa | http://pastebin.com/m4abe940e* |
| 22:00.34 | tekkub | I love flighty internet bitches |
| 22:00.52 | tekkub | talked to this bear/cub guy that lives like a mile from me few months back, lasted like 5 minutes |
| 22:01.04 | tekkub | just now he messages me, he just realized I wrote addons |
| 22:02.20 | jnwhiteh | reppgoa: then there is no GetDeadlyPoisonPoints functions |
| 22:02.23 | jnwhiteh | err function |
| 22:02.54 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 22:03.09 | reppgoa | i see, was it changed recently? the add-on worked pre 3.1. |
| 22:03.22 | jnwhiteh | that's not a blizzard function |
| 22:03.22 | reppgoa | I just came back to the game |
| 22:03.26 | reppgoa | and am trying to get it working again |
| 22:03.55 | jnwhiteh | you are trying to call a function that doesn't exist |
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| 22:04.00 | jnwhiteh | it never has been a Blizzard function |
| 22:04.04 | jnwhiteh | so it must have been defined elsewhere. |
| 22:04.04 | reppgoa | hm |
| 22:05.30 | reppgoa | it is |
| 22:05.34 | reppgoa | its defeined at the bottom |
| 22:05.37 | reppgoa | defined |
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| 22:06.56 | Qzot | tekkub: You off your meds again? |
| 22:07.12 | tekkub | I have meds? |
| 22:09.29 | reppgoa | fixed it >.< |
| 22:09.46 | reppgoa | thanks for the help, sometimes you just need someone to show you how much of an idiot you are being >.> |
| 22:14.52 | Aezay | Cairenn, is there a way to change the category of an addon on WoWI? |
| 22:15.06 | Cairenn | yup, give me the link and tell me which cat you'd like it in :) |
| 22:15.28 | zenzelezz | requests to be moved to Cairenn's category |
| 22:15.33 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 22:15.39 | batrick | don't feed addons to kitties Cairenn :( |
| 22:15.55 | Cairenn | batrick: heh |
| 22:16.43 | tekkub | anyone got a tiny addon to add NPC titles to the tooltip? |
| 22:18.31 | Qzot | or a tiny addon to display xp/hour? (without a friggin fubar/titanbar) |
| 22:18.44 | Qzot | or a tiny addon to identify flighty internet bitches? |
| 22:18.53 | tekkub | picoEXP (needs some sort of LDB display though) |
| 22:19.34 | zenzelezz | use the standard UI stopwatch, every 60 minutes make a note of your XP and do the math by hand |
| 22:19.57 | Qzot | tekkub: Anything that requires another addon is, imho, not a tiny addon. |
| 22:20.14 | tekkub | there are tiny displays too |
| 22:20.19 | tekkub | that's the whole point |
| 22:20.21 | Codayus | What tekkub said. |
| 22:20.29 | tekkub | you aren't forced into a nottiny fubar or titan |
| 22:20.32 | Qzot | zenzeless: Ah, yes. Same thing I do for Recount. :P |
| 22:20.53 | zenzelezz | Qzot: "HOLD THE DPS GUYS, I NEED TO WRITE THIS DOWN!" |
| 22:22.33 | Qzot | Perzackly my point, zenzeless. |
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| 22:34.00 | Qzot | Lol. Tekkub: does it even display xp/hour? |
| 22:34.12 | tekkub | think so |
| 22:34.20 | tekkub | xp/session and hours/sesssion for sure |
| 22:37.38 | Qzot | Hehe. Seems to have lots of info ... except what I care about. :P |
| 22:38.36 | Cide | just divide xp/session by the inverse of hours/session! |
| 22:39.29 | Qzot | Obviously. |
| 22:39.43 | Cide | I'm sure the author thought so too. |
| 22:40.23 | Qzot | Well, actually either div xp/session by hours/session, or multiply by the inverse. But I knew what you meant. |
| 22:40.40 | Cide | er, yeah. you're absolutely correct |
| 22:41.22 | Qzot | Dimensional analysis ftw. |
| 22:41.52 | Cide | fail at math ftl |
| 22:42.08 | Qzot | It's all relative. |
| 22:42.12 | Qzot | Einstein failed math. |
| 22:42.37 | Qzot | But today he's generally seen as a special guy. |
| 22:42.50 | Cide | relatively special, at least. |
| 22:43.03 | Qzot | He saw the world in a new light. |
| 22:43.20 | Qzot | Massively new light. |
| 22:43.48 | Cide | indeed |
| 22:44.09 | Cide | (I hope you got my terrible pun) |
| 22:44.17 | Cide | (I'll go get my coat) |
| 22:45.27 | Qzot | Lol. Cide. |
| 22:45.29 | Qzot | Yes. |
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| 22:46.04 | Qzot | There were 10 puns strewn throughout what I said. |
| 22:46.25 | Cide | they weren't as terrible |
| 22:46.42 | Qzot | I thought they would all be caught, but apparently only (drum roll..) one pun in ten did. |
| 22:47.09 | Qzot | Gah. I'll go away quietyl. |
| 22:47.26 | Cide | I'm not sure if I caught them or not |
| 22:47.57 | Qzot | They aren't worth it. I assure you. |
| 22:48.10 | Cide | haha, alright. I'll get back to coding, then. |
| 22:49.12 | Cide | did I mention jquery sucks? |
| 22:49.17 | Industrial | why |
| 22:49.22 | Cide | it's so buggy |
| 22:50.00 | Industrial | hm, I only have little experience with it so I'm mostly still happy with features :p |
| 22:50.43 | Cide | once you get into the intricacies, it's buggy |
| 22:50.53 | Cide | mostly jquery ui so far, but still |
| 22:52.30 | Industrial | I'm learning the symfony webframework atm in my spare time (little) for the inevitable next time I'm required to write a website with php, either for school or part time job |
| 22:53.36 | Industrial | I think I've grown over the 'php must die, kill it with fire' phase now, into the lets just get it over with phase :p |
| 22:53.56 | Industrial | s/over/past(?)/ |
| 22:54.13 | Cide | are you using a framework? |
| 22:54.33 | Industrial | yes, symfony. It's comparable with ruby on rails, django, etc |
| 22:54.40 | Cide | then php is fine |
| 22:54.49 | Cide | mostly fine anyway |
| 22:55.02 | Cide | it's without one that it must be killed. with fire. or nukes. |
| 22:57.49 | Codayus | Hmm, I've been playing with jquery a bit, but I'm still in the "ooh, shiny" phase. It's not happy making to hear it's buggy. :-( |
| 22:58.15 | Cide | just when you want to do crazy stuff |
| 22:58.22 | Cide | and some stupid stuff |
| 22:58.27 | Codayus | Heh |
| 22:58.48 | Cide | sortables for example, need special treatment if the contents are floating (css's float attribute) |
| 22:58.56 | Cide | which it automatically detects on load |
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| 22:59.02 | Codayus | Hrm. |
| 22:59.06 | Cide | but never if you add floated elements *after* load |
| 22:59.13 | Cide | which results in buggy and strange behavior |
| 22:59.30 | Cide | so I had to hack it to allow me to add the option to specify that the elements *will* be floating |
| 22:59.33 | foxlit | so, crazy stuff * stupid stuff = strange stuff |
| 22:59.45 | Cide | pretty much |
| 22:59.52 | Cide | it's not something which should be buggy in any case |
| 23:00.17 | Codayus | My exposure right now is...well... The company I work for hired a web design outfit to make us a new website. They're using jquery extensively, but they're not very good at it, so somehow I ended up in the role of debugging some of the stupid jquery tricks they're trying to do. :-/ |
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| 23:01.20 | Codayus | But since I'd never played with jquery (or anything comparable) before, I'm still overwhelmed by how awesome it is to have a library at all. :-) |
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| 23:03.08 | Codayus | And am much too new to notice bugs, even if I ran into one. :-p |
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| 23:05.42 | mikma | where's the minion? |
| 23:06.04 | foxlit | haunts Shir--- d'oh. |
| 23:06.16 | dardack | is minion in beta now/ can i go get? |
| 23:06.33 | Cide | Codayus: sadly I'm quite new to it too |
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| 23:06.41 | Cide | my page just happens to be very ajaxy :/ |
| 23:10.35 | foxlit | How web 1.9 of you |
| 23:11.14 | Cide | and here I have been labelling the app as web 2.0. |
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| 23:14.45 | mikma | lol shirik is missing! a bad sign |
| 23:15.03 | Hirsute | So... weird... We just put in my son's Wall-E dvd, and it's playing the chapters in reverse order (playing the video forward, but started at the last chapter, played it through, moved to the penultimate chapter, played it in reverse, etc) |
| 23:17.01 | dardack | in a computer? |
| 23:17.13 | dardack | cause i found the wall-e dvd when i tried to rip it to be all wierd |
| 23:19.08 | Kaso | Hirsute, Memento-E ? |
| 23:19.33 | Hirsute | dardack: No, on a stadard dvd player, and it just started doing it. |
| 23:19.37 | Hirsute | Kaso: Heh |
| 23:19.44 | dardack | wierd |
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| 23:31.25 | porkbun | i return with no success :( |
| 23:36.18 | Qzot | Hirsute: How old is your son, and has he noticed? |
| 23:36.40 | Qzot | porkbun: Is that considered an abrupt return, then? |
| 23:37.20 | porkbun | well i just realized i was a moron |
| 23:37.26 | porkbun | i've been editing files in my local perforce depot |
| 23:37.32 | porkbun | and not deploying them to the wow folder |
| 23:37.37 | porkbun | and then wondering why my changes aren't working |
| 23:37.57 | Qzot | O.o |
| 23:38.35 | Qzot | Wouldn't it make sense to do your p4 checkout into your WoW directory? |
| 23:38.50 | porkbun | it would, except my p4 depot is rooted to c:\depot, and wow is already in c:\wow |
| 23:38.58 | porkbun | i dont know how to map that |
| 23:40.01 | Qzot | Huh? |
| 23:40.28 | Qzot | When you commit, where are the files stored? |
| 23:40.41 | Qzot | c:\depot? or someplace else? |
| 23:40.58 | porkbun | the p4 depot is mapped to c:\depot |
| 23:41.11 | Qzot | *cough* |
| 23:41.25 | Qzot | I'm trying to figure out if you and I are using the word "depot" to mean the same thing. |
| 23:42.00 | Qzot | In using perforce, it's customary to check out files *from* a depot, *to* a local client. |
| 23:42.46 | Qzot | If c:\depot is your depot, then you need to create a client which checks out files from there to c:\wow. |
| 23:43.13 | Qzot | If c:\depot is really a client for files you're keeping somewhere else, then you need to create a 2nd client which checks out into c:\wow. |
| 23:43.42 | porkbun | oh yeah. the local client's root directory is c:\depot |
| 23:44.01 | porkbun | so when i sync to the server, everything's going into c:\depot\whatever |
| 23:44.02 | Qzot | Eww. |
| 23:44.07 | Qzot | And very confusing. |
| 23:44.25 | Qzot | Because your local "depot" confuses the very meaning of the word, "depot". |
| 23:45.05 | Qzot | It's not wrong. It's just gross. |
| 23:45.39 | porkbun | yeah i picked a bad name :p |
| 23:45.47 | porkbun | okay got a wow lua question :) |
| 23:45.56 | porkbun | i defined a .lua file with a bunch of functions |
| 23:46.08 | porkbun | why is wow executing each one at load time, even though they're not called? |
| 23:46.58 | Qzot | "Loading a file" is "executing" the file. But still, if the execution just defines functions, the interiors should not be executed. |
| 23:47.32 | porkbun | oh . . . well i have a bunch of functions in the file, and some variables defined, but the functions are being executed |
| 23:47.40 | Qzot | Post? |
| 23:48.17 | Qzot | Are you using p4win or command line perforce or what? |
| 23:48.30 | porkbun | p4v |
| 23:50.00 | Qzot | Do a ClientSpec/Edit <whatever the name is>... to see what a client spec looks like. Then ClientSpec/New... to create a new one that maps your wow addons to to teh correct directory. |
| 23:50.32 | reppgoa | can anyone take a look at this code and tell me how to adjust the placement of the combo points? ( I didnt make this add-on, just update it as needed) |
| 23:50.33 | reppgoa | http://pastebin.com/m147bbea3 |
| 23:50.59 | reppgoa | i adjus the values at the top, and nothing happens |
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| 23:51.29 | Qzot | siaopao: Are you going to pastey your code to http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ ? |
| 23:53.30 | Qzot | reppgoa: Because no one ever calls CPSetLayout? |
| 23:54.11 | reppgoa | im still very new to this, what do you mean? |
| 23:54.55 | Qzot | You are changing the values assigned to CPLayouts, right? |
| 23:55.04 | reppgoa | yes |
| 23:55.08 | porkbun | i can't figure out how, qzot |
| 23:55.10 | reppgoa | the Y coords |
| 23:55.28 | reppgoa | because i just want to move the art up a scoch or two |
| 23:55.39 | reppgoa | but when i change them, nothing happens |
| 23:55.42 | Qzot | siaopao: Go to http://wowuidev.pastey.net and paste in your code. |
| 23:55.49 | porkbun | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/114428-4703 |
| 23:55.53 | porkbun | ah got it :D |
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| 23:56.09 | porkbun | so my problem is it executes the code inside the OnAchievementHandler, at load time |
| 23:56.11 | Qzot | reppgoa: Now, search your file for places where you find "CPLayouts". |
| 23:56.21 | porkbun | and then errors out cause the fullMsg is null |
| 23:56.21 | Qzot | How many places do you find that in your code? |
| 23:56.23 | porkbun | nil, whatevs |
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| 23:57.25 | Funkeh` | why the hell is there an entire thread dedicated to bacon |
| 23:57.29 | Funkeh` | just lol |
| 23:57.35 | Qzot | siaopao: See if you can go to this link, and replace my garbage with your code. http://wowuidev.pastey.net/114429 |
| 23:57.36 | reppgoa | Qzot: I found it 3 times |
| 23:57.56 | Qzot | reppgoa: I only found it 2 times. Does the pastey haev all the code? |
| 23:58.17 | reppgoa | it should, let me make sure |
| 23:58.32 | Qzot | Nvm. There are 3, but 2 are on the same line. |
| 23:58.40 | reppgoa | ya |
| 23:58.45 | Qzot | So let's list each of the 3: |
| 23:58.53 | Qzot | (1) is where CPLayouts is defined. |
| 23:59.14 | Qzot | (2) is inside the function CPSetLayout, right |
| 23:59.17 | Qzot | (3) is inside the function CPSetLayout, right? |
