| 00:00.53 | dardack_ | anyone know the 3 rgb for purple? |
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| 00:01.25 | Vonhinten | em, red and blue with no green? |
| 00:01.32 | Vonhinten | 255,0,255 |
| 00:01.34 | Vonhinten | FF00FF |
| 00:01.47 | foxlit|mac | magenta, that is. |
| 00:02.00 | dardack_ | so 1, 0, 1? |
| 00:02.10 | foxlit|mac | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple |
| 00:02.14 | dardack_ | danke |
| 00:02.28 | foxlit|mac | vs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magenta |
| 00:02.52 | dardack_ | ahh isee |
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| 00:03.34 | dardack_ | sigh i can't figure out how to add the status to the bar |
| 00:03.43 | NightHawkTheSane | the former NOT being a character in RHPC? |
| 00:04.12 | NightHawkTheSane | also, rhpc is way too close to rhcp.. |
| 00:04.27 | dardack_ | ok the author mentioned to someone to post on the forums about the CD to the bar, where are the wowi forums? |
| 00:04.29 | dardack_ | never been ther |
| 00:04.50 | dardack_ | nvm top right corner |
| 00:04.53 | dardack_ | a button sorry |
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| 00:08.02 | foxlit|mac | Hm, I wonder |
| 00:08.22 | foxlit|mac | lua> ("ALT-CTRL-SHIFT-A"):gsub("(%a)%a+%-","%1-") |
| 00:08.22 | lua_bot | foxlit|mac: A-C-S-A, 3 |
| 00:08.26 | foxlit|mac | too cryptic? |
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| 00:09.10 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* yes, and no, |
| 00:09.33 | foxlit|mac | I'm not sure I even need to do this |
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| 00:09.36 | foxlit|mac | It's just that text like |
| 00:09.46 | foxlit|mac | ALT-CTRL-SHIFT-Mouse Button 4 tends to be too wide for normal buttons |
| 00:10.19 | foxlit|mac | sighs. |
| 00:10.37 | foxlit|mac | That must be why the blizzard bindings UI uses such obscenely wide buttons |
| 00:13.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Truncate the text to A, C, and S? |
| 00:17.28 | foxlit|mac | that's what the code above does. |
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| 00:24.32 | foxlit|mac | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/unforgotten-realms/733-Season-3-Trailer |
| 00:24.42 | foxlit|mac | just for the parody value |
| 00:25.03 | dardack_ | now way |
| 00:25.06 | dardack_ | he has a trailer out |
| 00:25.08 | dardack_ | finally |
| 00:25.10 | dardack_ | brb |
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| 00:25.23 | dardack_ | that made my thursdays |
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| 00:29.49 | dardack_ | AWESOME |
| 00:29.59 | dardack_ | but where was the I WANNA CAST A SPELL for the witty wizard open |
| 00:30.00 | dardack_ | i miss that |
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| 00:44.26 | bleetah | mmm cat yodelling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEjKk5Kt3rs |
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| 00:53.39 | Antiarc | http://pastie.org/478708 < lawls |
| 00:53.55 | Antiarc | 3-second kill on an enemy rogue at 2300 |
| 00:54.28 | _rane | you are teh skillz |
| 00:55.14 | End | you would try to pick pockets in arena |
| 00:55.35 | Elly | mmm, Tricks of the Trade |
| 00:55.53 | Antiarc | It's my cheapshot macro |
| 00:56.07 | Antiarc | It's really sad that rogues can die that quickly |
| 00:56.14 | Antiarc | We just dispelled him and both of us laid into him. |
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| 00:59.08 | Elly | you lose a few points for misspelling "rouge" :) |
| 01:02.27 | Tewan | Elly: You lose completely for not knowing that it's actually "rogue" |
| 01:02.36 | Tewan | http://www.wowwiki.com/Rogue |
| 01:02.40 | End | more like roog imo |
| 01:03.16 | mikma | moulin rouge |
| 01:04.04 | Elly | Tewan: no, you lose for not knowing I'm referring to this: http://www.wowwiki.com/Rouge :P |
| 01:06.11 | Tewan | Elly: there's not really a way to relate the two |
| 01:06.28 | Tewan | So you didn't provide enough information to notify that you were referring to that |
| 01:06.38 | Elly | the smiley face is a joke marker, isn't it? |
| 01:06.54 | Elly | I've been using it as one fairly frequently, anyway |
| 01:07.00 | Tewan | not exactly |
| 01:07.16 | Tewan | You could've been giving a friendly correction |
| 01:07.57 | Elly | I guess so |
| 01:08.01 | Elly | I wasn't, though :P |
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| 01:18.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, anyone in here ever done java socket (TCP/IP) programming, and if so, is there some magic trick to it that gets it to send data? |
| 01:19.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I call out.write(b); out.flush(); Thread.sleep(2000); out.close(); |
| 01:19.18 | ScytheBlade1 | No data is ever actually sent |
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| 01:26.06 | Kaso | ScytheBlade1 what class you using for that? |
| 01:26.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaso: 'Socket' |
| 01:28.47 | Kaso | are you calling close() on the socket's output stream? |
| 01:28.58 | Kaso | im not sure you're supposed to do that directly |
| 01:29.04 | ScytheBlade1 | You are, once you clean up |
| 01:29.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Close the stream, close the socket |
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| 01:29.32 | Kaso | i thought there was a method within the socket to close the streams? |
| 01:29.41 | Kaso | lemme pull up an api |
| 01:30.04 | Kaso | There's a shutdownOutput() method, that's what im thinking of |
| 01:31.59 | Dagmar | You *should* in any language, even when you can skip it (like in perl) |
| 01:32.16 | Dagmar | Surely you remember your mom teaching you this when you were little |
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| 01:52.54 | Thunder_Child | ~quiet |
| 01:52.54 | purl | ACTION ok, ok, I will be quiet. When you start making sense, that is. |
| 01:53.43 | Thunder_Child | ~too quiet |
| 01:53.44 | purl | no, you're too quiet |
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| 02:06.06 | End | imo, Kologarn is yelling OOOOOOH FABIAN |
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| 02:17.36 | Shirik | heh |
| 02:17.44 | Shirik | Policy is another one of those words that as you look at it more |
| 02:17.46 | Shirik | it looks more and more wrong |
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| 02:19.29 | ScytheBlade1 | "Linux has also been ported to itself." |
| 02:19.34 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a fun line in the readme |
| 02:19.42 | Shirik | huh? |
| 02:20.49 | ScytheBlade1 | You can build the kernel as a userland binary |
| 02:21.18 | Shirik | Anyone here on Mac OS with Java 5 and compiler that can test something for me? |
| 02:26.42 | Wobin | Cathy Noriego, also 16, said she was attracted by the guns. The group uses compressed-air guns - known as airsoft guns, which fire tiny plastic pellets - in the training exercises, and sometimes they shoot real guns on a closed range. "I like shooting them," Cathy said. "I like the sound they make. It gets me excited." |
| 02:27.18 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1.... why.... |
| 02:27.24 | ScytheBlade1 | hm? |
| 02:27.27 | Shirik | so you can run linux in linux? |
| 02:27.30 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 02:27.36 | Shirik | how is that even supposed to work |
| 02:27.45 | Shirik | it doesn't have access to the TLB, etc. |
| 02:27.59 | ScytheBlade1 | http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/ |
| 02:28.01 | Shirik | all the system-level opcodes |
| 02:28.27 | Shirik | so it does in fact act as a VM |
| 02:28.41 | Shirik | I wonder if they test it by running it in itslef |
| 02:28.51 | Shirik | linux in linux in linux |
| 02:29.18 | Shirik | what's the benefit of that over a true VM? |
| 02:29.29 | ScytheBlade1 | define 'true VM' |
| 02:29.34 | Shirik | VMWare, etc. |
| 02:29.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That's not exactly precise! |
| 02:30.14 | Shirik | ? |
| 02:31.14 | ajmitch | Shirik: better memory sharing, for one |
| 02:32.04 | ajmitch | since they're just treated as normal processes, though I/O isn't quite as good with UML |
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| 02:42.18 | dardack_ | sigh too much gear in uld with no def |
| 02:42.28 | dardack_ | i don't want to put the 25 def on my 2h again |
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| 02:50.08 | kd3 | eesh |
| 02:50.12 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Ulduar_%28instance%29#Patches_and_hotfixes |
| 02:50.14 | kd3 | that's quite a list |
| 02:52.50 | Shirik | !!! |
| 02:52.52 | Shirik | I love you pandora |
| 02:53.10 | Shirik | I completely forgot about this group, "Sonata Arctica" |
| 02:53.15 | Shirik | it found it for me again >.> |
| 02:54.17 | Hjalte | Sigh, still no Pandora in Denmark unless you use proxies. |
| 02:54.35 | Hjalte | yells at Shirik for reminding him. |
| 02:54.41 | Shirik | :( |
| 02:55.56 | Shirik | hey hey |
| 02:55.57 | Shirik | Hjalte |
| 02:56.00 | Shirik | you know what else |
| 02:56.06 | Shirik | pandora's on my blackberry too! |
| 02:56.07 | Shirik | muahaha |
| 02:56.22 | Hjalte | Silly americans. |
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| 03:03.51 | sysrage | pandora rules |
| 03:05.57 | dGrimes | ok |
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| 03:06.20 | dGrimes | quick question if anyone could answer, but button skins use the animation api blizzard introduced? |
| 03:06.41 | dGrimes | can button* |
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| 03:20.02 | Hjalte | Anyone using Tor with Windows 7 RC x64? |
| 03:20.16 | Shirik | sure |
| 03:20.22 | Shirik | er, not RC sorry |
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| 03:21.04 | Hjalte | When I start Tor, it doesn't seem to start. At least it's not in the Processes tab of my Task Manager and Pandora doesn't work. |
| 03:21.26 | Shirik | I have it start up on boot and it seems to work fine, but I'm still on build 7000 |
| 03:23.59 | Thunder_Child | why arent you over 9000 yet! |
| 03:25.33 | Shirik | ask Microsoft! |
| 03:25.57 | Thunder_Child | oh...7 |
| 03:25.59 | Thunder_Child | nvm then |
| 03:36.55 | Shirik | So I'm reading the Java coding standards |
| 03:36.59 | Shirik | 10.5.4 Special Comments |
| 03:36.59 | Shirik | Use XXX in a comment to flag something that is bogus but works. Use FIXME to flag something that is bogus and broken. |
| 03:37.05 | Shirik | wtf is "bogus but works" |
| 03:37.50 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, best i can figure, is 'like a hack' |
| 03:40.26 | haste | unintended feature! |
| 03:44.25 | kmcguire | Ok, I almost got a better routing system writting for quest helper. I still need to throw in the guts of the code, but I got the skeleton code. I think I can fit it all in one single file and even route around mountains and things. |
| 03:44.26 | kmcguire | http://www.pastey.net/114243-2rwp |
| 03:47.45 | ZorbaTHut | I think you are going to find that the guts are far harder than you think they are :P are you trying to rebuild the pathfinding system from point A to point B, or the routing system that generates entire optimized waypoint orders? |
| 03:47.54 | Wobin | hehe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uwY3sjqYX0 |
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| 03:49.52 | kmcguire | Not sure how to answer. Do not understand. I can say I am trying to take all the objectives (clusters) and then build a route that gets their based on the objective dependancies and based on some flags that can be passed in like (low-level quests first..ect), and then after that is built go back over the path and refine it to use in-zone paths to path around mountains..ect.. |
| 03:50.49 | kmcguire | If I am missing something. Tell me know to save me some time. |
| 03:50.53 | kmcguire | know/now |
| 03:50.55 | ZorbaTHut | if possible, I recommend rigging it so you can compare your paths to the ones the routing system currently generates |
| 03:51.33 | kmcguire | Elaborate some more. I know there is something else there I am missing. |
| 03:51.34 | ZorbaTHut | *shrug* what I think you're missing is that Lua is slow, WoW eats most of the CPU, Traveling Salesman is a very hard problem, and the geometry of Azeroth is complicated and surprisingly unsuited to standard pathfinding techniques |
| 03:51.55 | kd3 | traveling salesman... full of cringe and pain |
| 03:52.06 | kmcguire | I think the lua is slow, wow eats a lot of cpu, and traveling salesman are hard. |
| 03:52.06 | ZorbaTHut | all of which make the problem far nastier than anyone would expect. QH 0.x had some good ideas and melted down miserably, QH 1.x is huge steps ahead of it and even 1.x does blatantly stupid things constantly |
| 03:52.30 | kmcguire | I will just have to try and see what I come up with. |
| 03:52.49 | kmcguire | It will not hurt anything. And, if it comes out good then there is a potential idea pot to boil up something from. |
| 03:53.04 | ZorbaTHut | it's a horrifyingly tough problem. I guess what I'm saying is: I honestly wish you good luck, but make sure you compare what you get with what 1.x already does :) |
| 03:53.15 | ZorbaTHut | also, how are you planning to come up with the world geometry to route around mountains? |
| 03:53.18 | kmcguire | Yeah, but 1.x is nasty code. |
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| 03:53.38 | ZorbaTHut | the parts that are actually 1.x code are pretty clean, albeit very compact and possibly in need of commenting :) |
| 03:53.57 | ZorbaTHut | there's a lot of old stripped-out 0.x code that just needs to be deleted, though |
| 03:54.28 | kmcguire | I will make a table of vectors for each zone that represent safe walk paths and also paths that do not run into mountains, basically the road paths. |
| 03:55.05 | kmcguire | And, use a little trig to plot a arbitrary point onto the vector when out off the road. |
| 03:55.31 | Iriel | Hm, someone re-inventing AutoTravel? |
| 03:56.03 | kmcguire | Yeah, but honestly. If I can not look at the code and understand it then it might be too nasty. |
| 03:56.12 | kmcguire | I had a _lot_ of trouble digging around to find what I needed. |
| 03:56.14 | ZorbaTHut | code's always easier to write than to read |
| 03:56.27 | kmcguire | The linux kernel is easier to read.. |
| 03:56.35 | Iriel | s/always/frequently/ |
| 03:56.36 | kd3 | I miss autotravel at times |
| 03:57.08 | kmcguire | No seriously.. the kernel is easier to read and understand.. although there is a lot of high level structures. In comparing it to QuestHelper. I want to pull my hair out and stick needles in my eyes. |
| 03:57.27 | Hjalte | Shirik: I was able to get the latest rc of tor working on windows 7 :D |
| 03:57.39 | Shirik | yey :) |
| 03:57.50 | kmcguire | It is not your fault though, Zorba. |
| 03:59.02 | dardack_ | what was autotravel? |
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| 04:07.34 | Shirik | so why exactly is Leopard called Leopard? |
| 04:07.39 | Shirik | And not Mac OS XI or something |
| 04:08.40 | Hjalte | The same reason Vista is called Vista and Windows 7 is called... oh wait. Microsoft learned something. |
| 04:09.32 | Shirik | that's another thing |
| 04:09.34 | Shirik | why Windows 7 |
| 04:09.44 | ZorbaTHut | sigh. "Newest version was throwing all sorts of errors at me, so reverted to the previous version." |
| 04:09.48 | ZorbaTHut | what a useful bug reports |
| 04:09.53 | ZorbaTHut | I'll get right on fixing that |
| 04:10.18 | Shirik | ZorbaTHut: What, you can't tell what the problem is? |
| 04:10.20 | Shirik | wtf is wrong with you |
| 04:10.42 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, oh I see, I accidentally left "throw_all_sorts_of_errors = true" in |
| 04:10.45 | Iriel | Shirik: Leopard is also OSX 10.5 |
| 04:11.06 | Shirik | ah |
| 04:12.31 | Iriel | 10.6 will be "Snow Leopard" |
| 04:12.57 | Shirik | 10.7 will be "Night Elf" |
| 04:13.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: the cat names are marketing code names, really |
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| 04:42.14 | Hirsute | Bah. Anyone know offhand how an addon would go about determining the player's skill level (in points) for a given profession? |
| 04:42.28 | Hirsute | I'm apparently looking in the wrong place on WoWWiki. |
| 04:42.34 | Iriel | Look at how the skill frame does it? |
| 04:43.39 | Hirsute | Yeah, I'll go do that now. Just figured I'd ask if anyone knew off-hand. |
| 04:43.39 | Iriel | GetSkillLineInfo |
| 04:43.46 | Iriel | but there's likely some prep work |
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| 04:45.32 | ZorbaTHut | it's surprisingly grim - I couldn't find any way to get non-internationalized names for professions |
| 04:45.32 | Sargeras_ | ping Dolby |
| 04:45.44 | ZorbaTHut | so, unless I was missing something major, you'll need a lookup table :( |
| 04:47.54 | Hirsute | ZorbaTHut: Good to know |
| 04:48.02 | Hirsute | Iriel: Thanks |
| 04:48.17 | ZorbaTHut | although, in my case, I was able to pick the data I needed out of achievements :) |
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| 04:59.08 | haste | ZorbaTHut: professions are just spells, so GetSpellInfo should work |
| 05:01.34 | ZorbaTHut | haste, do you get the actual profession level, though? |
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| 05:06.14 | Hirsute | Eh, this will serve my purpose, it's for a personal addon that won't ever be released. No need for me to localize it, so localized names aren't a problem. |
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| 05:11.04 | ZorbaTHut | ah, should work fine then |
| 05:12.29 | haste | ZorbaTHut: no, but you could get the names with them :) |
| 05:13.32 | ZorbaTHut | haste, ah, reasonable :) |
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| 05:58.30 | Thunder_Child | ~shady |
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| 06:22.35 | Fisker- | punches Thunder_Child in the face |
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| 06:47.07 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, i'm sure i deserved it |
| 06:48.42 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 06:49.48 | Fisker- | farts Thunder_Child in the face |
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| 06:54.17 | Jamash | fart is not a transitive verb |
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| 06:57.20 | Wobin | You fart the gas? |
| 07:03.34 | Jamash | but you can't fart someone in the face |
| 07:03.57 | Fisker- | i just did |
| 07:04.48 | Jamash | calls the grammar police. |
| 07:05.22 | durcyn | in order to 'fart' something, it'd have to be in his rectum, QED Fisker- likes men |
| 07:06.03 | durcyn | i rest my case. |
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| 07:25.53 | Shirik | is that what transitive and intransitive means? |
| 07:25.55 | Shirik | I never got that |
| 07:26.50 | kd3 | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/intransitive |
| 07:27.18 | kd3 | the example is win |
| 07:27.21 | kd3 | looks for more beer |
| 07:32.38 | Vilkku | computer question guys: if I got memory which has latency 4-4-4-12, and add memory which has latency 5-5-5-15, how much will it mess stuff up, if at all? |
| 07:34.01 | kd3 | I'd recommend against it unless you can run the 4-4-4-12 stick(s) at 5-5-5-15, and even then they need to be on different channels |
| 07:35.49 | Thunder_Child | however if they are on the same channel i think they default to the slowest chip speed |
| 07:36.24 | Jamash | Vilkku: Are you installing one new stick or two? |
| 07:36.29 | Vilkku | two |
| 07:36.32 | Vilkku | I got 2x2GB |
| 07:36.36 | Vilkku | and I'm adding the same |
| 07:36.37 | Vilkku | but |
| 07:36.54 | kd3 | how many sticks do you have in there now? |
| 07:36.59 | Vilkku | aparently my old memory is already clocked to 5-5-5-15, even if the package said 4-4-4-12 :P |
| 07:37.05 | Vilkku | the same 2x2BG |
| 07:37.08 | Vilkku | GB even |
| 07:37.11 | kd3 | heh, that makes it easy then |
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| 07:43.40 | ZorbaTHut | also, doubling your RAM is probably a much bigger performance gain than reducing the speed of that RAM slightly would be a performance loss |
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| 07:48.20 | Jamash | depends on what you're running of course |
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| 07:56.48 | Fisker- | THE DAY OF RECKONING HAS COME |
| 07:57.05 | Fisker- | oh shirik is gone |
| 07:57.06 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 07:57.25 | Thunder_Child | but Shiibot is here Fisker-, he will still see this |
| 07:57.47 | Fisker- | he still needs to show me how to enlarge my balls |
| 07:58.15 | Jamash | use a bicycle pump with a ball needle |
| 07:58.23 | Fisker- | naw |
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| 08:01.10 | Jamash | I need a longer chat log |
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| 08:04.31 | Thunder_Child | damit i hate woot-off's |
| 08:04.53 | Jamash | is there a simple way to tell the default chat window to have a much longer scrollback buffer? |
| 08:05.40 | durcyn | Jamash: :SetMaxLines |
| 08:06.06 | Jamash | durcyn: thx, awesome |
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| 08:07.37 | durcyn | fair warning, it does clear the contents |
| 08:07.45 | Jamash | I found that out, yeah. |
| 08:08.32 | Jamash | I'm trying to fix a bug and my addon is putting out a metric asston of debug output, which was scrolling out past the end of the window |
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| 08:17.11 | Jamash | so it turns out if you click on talent buttons _really fast_ then PLAYER_TALENT_UPDATE doesn't fire for each one learned |
| 08:18.24 | Jamash | well, technically the addon I'm using (TalentTresor) isn't clicking the buttons, it's calling LearnTalent() a whole bunch of times really fast. |
| 08:18.36 | Jamash | this then screws with my event handling code |
| 08:30.25 | mikma | well the game doesnt work that well with the superclicking either when speccing char |
| 08:30.44 | mikma | always need to take it slow so the points will actually be spent |
| 08:35.48 | Jamash | yeah it's spamming all the buttons, then waiting a tick, then spamming the buttons that didn't register, then waiting a tick... |
| 08:37.48 | Jamash | one could argue that that's poor design, but it works, and I want to figure out some way to work with it... |
| 08:38.26 | Fisker- | argues |
| 08:43.06 | Jamash | I have a horrible idea, involving matching up CHARACTER_POINTS_CHANGED events to LearnTalent() calls |
| 08:43.11 | Kalroth | counterargues |
| 08:45.16 | jnwhiteh | why not turn on the preview talents option |
| 08:45.19 | jnwhiteh | and do things that waey |
| 08:45.45 | Jamash | it's not my addon, I'm just trying to work with it |
| 08:46.02 | jnwhiteh | ah |
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| 08:51.59 | Fisker- | i'm so happy |
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| 08:57.10 | Kalroth | Fisker-: y so hapy |
| 09:00.54 | jnwhiteh | so I am daily bugged. |
| 09:00.58 | jnwhiteh | I can't loot Wild Mustard in Dalaran |
| 09:01.06 | jnwhiteh | and I can't fish up terrorfish |
| 09:01.10 | jnwhiteh | anyone run into this before? |
| 09:01.29 | durcyn | bugged raid group, perhaps? LeaveParty() do anything? |
| 09:01.41 | jnwhiteh | thats it =) |
| 09:01.41 | Kalroth | it doesn't have to be bugged :P |
| 09:01.48 | Kalroth | jnwhiteh just left Karazhan! |
| 09:01.52 | jnwhiteh | had left the raid previously |
| 09:01.57 | Kalroth | riiight |
| 09:02.57 | jnwhiteh | levelled fishing from 303 - 310 before asking here |
| 09:02.59 | Zeksie | jnwhiteh: had it with another cooking daily erm.. the one that needs the jug of wine |
| 09:03.00 | jnwhiteh | duuur |
| 09:03.12 | Zeksie | just went back to it a couple of hours later and it was fine |
| 09:03.31 | jnwhiteh | alright guys, so I need an addon idea. |
| 09:03.54 | Kalroth | For any addon? |
| 09:04.02 | Zeksie | Flash Animation scripting Lib for animation system! |
| 09:04.06 | jnwhiteh | It should be relatively simple.. but needs to have frames, frame templates, events, widget handlers |
| 09:04.12 | jnwhiteh | its a series of 5 chapters in the new editino of the book |
| 09:04.18 | Kalroth | oh, for the book |
| 09:04.30 | jnwhiteh | can't involve hooking, or the newcombat log system |
| 09:04.30 | Kalroth | puts his DPS penis addon idea back into the drawer. |
| 09:05.00 | jnwhiteh | i suppose it COULD involve hooking,m but it would have to be minor |
| 09:05.07 | jnwhiteh | so I can't do a player frame replacement. |
| 09:05.07 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: A sortable/searchable loot log? Could use frame templates for the line items |
| 09:05.23 | Kalroth | Yeah, I'd actually use that too :P |
| 09:05.26 | jnwhiteh | hrm, interesting. |
| 09:05.35 | jnwhiteh | gah |
| 09:05.41 | jnwhiteh | it'd involve FSF or scroll frame |
| 09:05.45 | jnwhiteh | which isn't covered until later |
| 09:05.51 | durcyn | casting bar replacement |
| 09:05.55 | jnwhiteh | but I might be able to make it work |
| 09:05.59 | jnwhiteh | durcyn: interesting |
| 09:06.03 | Antiarc | casting bar replacement would involve hooks |
| 09:06.08 | Antiarc | Extensive hooks |
| 09:06.08 | jnwhiteh | not sure if its substantial enough |
| 09:06.12 | jnwhiteh | *nd* |
| 09:06.19 | jnwhiteh | and not much beef elsewhere. |
| 09:06.38 | jnwhiteh | before i was doing combattracker |
| 09:06.42 | jnwhiteh | which told you how much damage you took in a given combat |
| 09:06.53 | jnwhiteh | I wonder if I could extend that to show information _about_ the combat |
| 09:06.55 | Kalroth | jnwhiteh: Otherwise you could just make Tetris for WoW! |
| 09:06.57 | jnwhiteh | i.e. time to live for the mob (or you) |
| 09:07.38 | jnwhiteh | sioraiocht wants an addon called PriorityQueue that shows your spell rotation with what spell you shoudl cast next, and the cooldowns of the other spells |
| 09:07.42 | jnwhiteh | but that's not useful to all clases |
| 09:08.16 | Kalroth | Actually I was thinking of making something like that for myself (arms warrior) - but I realized that most of my stuff is RNG proc anyways :p |
| 09:08.26 | jnwhiteh | Kalroth: hehe, =) |
| 09:08.31 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: I was once working on an addon called HiveMind, which tracked and communicated party cooldowns, with the intent that it be used in the arena |
| 09:08.42 | jnwhiteh | perhaps doing something with the new combat log, in limited fashion would be good |
| 09:08.43 | Antiarc | They weren't action buttons, just frames with textures and cooldown objects |
| 09:08.51 | durcyn | i'm pretty sure something by the name of priorityqueue already exists and does exactly what you describe |
| 09:08.52 | Antiarc | Something like that might be interesting |
| 09:08.54 | jnwhiteh | Addon comms is way too advanced for this =/ |
| 09:09.07 | Antiarc | Could make it just your own addons. Simple cooldown tracker. |
| 09:09.10 | Antiarc | Been solved a million times, sure |
| 09:09.12 | Antiarc | But eh. |
| 09:09.24 | jnwhiteh | so it does durcyn =) |
| 09:09.34 | jnwhiteh | sioraiocht: http://www.wowace.com/projects/priorityqueue/ |
| 09:09.59 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 09:10.01 | jnwhiteh | CombatBuddy |
| 09:10.02 | sioraiocht | hahaha |
| 09:10.23 | jnwhiteh | now what should CombatBuddy show =) |
| 09:10.27 | Kalroth | hrm, is there an addon that gathers and logs all events from players and mobs? basically all events ingame and sorted by event parameters? (event type, source, destination, texts, damage done/taken, healing done/taken, etc. etc.) |
| 09:10.42 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: Gnome-flavored DOOM marine |
| 09:10.51 | Jamash | ^ |
| 09:10.53 | jnwhiteh | umm? |
| 09:11.07 | Antiarc | you know how the doom marine shows different faces depending on your health? |
| 09:11.14 | Antiarc | Make it like that. Except a gnome. |
| 09:11.18 | jnwhiteh | oh yeah, lol |
| 09:11.24 | jnwhiteh | thats pretty funny |
| 09:11.26 | Antiarc | That way, even if you die, you get the pleasure of seeing a battered gnome die with you. |
| 09:11.37 | Jamash | that would make a great sample addon |
| 09:11.39 | jnwhiteh | too bad i fail at being an artist |
| 09:11.46 | jnwhiteh | anyone willing to help? :P |
| 09:11.53 | jnwhiteh | with the graphics, I mean |
| 09:12.01 | Antiarc | I am also a failartist. |
| 09:12.04 | Jamash | I fail at photoshop |
| 09:12.04 | Antiarc | So I'm of no use |
| 09:12.18 | jnwhiteh | i need some mikk loving |
| 09:12.19 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 09:12.20 | augustl | so, uh, old issue is probably old, but what's up with http://www.wowmatrix.com/faq/site-updates.html ? |
| 09:12.38 | Kalroth | jnwhiteh: Show this when the player is below 10% health: http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4848/fuuuuuul.jpg |
| 09:12.39 | jnwhiteh | hrm, where are rhinos in Borean Tundra? |
| 09:12.44 | Antiarc | what about it? |
| 09:12.50 | Wobin | didn't someone already write that? |
| 09:12.52 | jnwhiteh | augustl: what do you mean "Whats up with it"? |
| 09:12.57 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: write what? |
| 09:12.58 | Kalroth | jnwhiteh: north of horde town |
| 09:13.06 | jnwhiteh | Kalroth: where's horde town? :P |
| 09:13.08 | jnwhiteh | nvm |
| 09:13.13 | Kalroth | Dude :P |
| 09:13.18 | augustl | if what that page claims is true, all the negative vibes around wowmatrix the last couple of months seems odd |
| 09:13.23 | jnwhiteh | i had mapster on |
| 09:13.25 | jnwhiteh | augustl: its not |
| 09:13.26 | Wobin | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13366-Doomed.html |
| 09:13.27 | jnwhiteh | at all |
| 09:13.53 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: but this would be a gnome :P |
| 09:14.06 | jnwhiteh | and that's not the purpose of the addon |
| 09:14.59 | jnwhiteh | A. No, absolutely not. In fact, we were the ones who approached both Curse and WoWInterface with beneficial proposals many months ago. We are probably still the only AddOn updater to have done this. |
| 09:15.04 | jnwhiteh | that's just blatanly false with regards to WowI |
| 09:15.06 | jnwhiteh | they did contact Curse |
| 09:15.10 | jnwhiteh | but their information is dubious there |
| 09:15.26 | jnwhiteh | however, they did not post on our forums, did not PM any of the site staff, and did not fill out the contact form |
| 09:15.33 | jnwhiteh | I know, I get all of the above, and htey never contacted us. |
| 09:15.38 | jnwhiteh | WoWInterface completely ignored the proposal, while Curse rejected the proposal on the spot, while making threats and trying to buy us out for cheap instead, so as to get rid of us completely. |
| 09:15.39 | jnwhiteh | so again |
| 09:15.40 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 09:15.44 | augustl | hm, I see |
| 09:15.54 | Kalroth | Maybe they emailed? :) |
| 09:16.03 | Kalroth | I hear it's still a valid way of contacting people! |
| 09:16.06 | jnwhiteh | Kalroth: it would have been cair or dolby, and it never arrived |
| 09:16.13 | Wobin | heheh |
| 09:16.14 | Wobin | "Narnia is an awesome series as long as she doesn't care that JESUS CHRIST IS A LION GET IN THE WARDROBE" |
| 09:16.15 | jnwhiteh | and those emails are not widely available. |
| 09:16.51 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 09:16.53 | Antiarc | What WowMatrix isn't telling you is that they offered to pay pennies on the dollar in what they were costing Curse in bandwidth. |
| 09:16.56 | jnwhiteh | i should quest in borean tundra at some point |
| 09:17.13 | jnwhiteh | is it neat from the storyline perspective? |
| 09:17.19 | Wobin | yeah |
| 09:17.20 | jnwhiteh | i can tell you i thought nexus was a terrible instance. |
| 09:17.30 | Antiarc | Borean is v. dull |
| 09:17.32 | Wobin | you get more taunka lore |
| 09:17.36 | Antiarc | I much prefer Howling Fjord |
| 09:17.54 | Wobin | I wouldn't mind HF, if it weren't for the ridiculous amount of undead architecture |
| 09:18.00 | k1net1k | at least borean doesnt have a great fjord i nthe way when you dont have a flying mount |
| 09:18.21 | Wobin | the undead clearly had their part of the brain where useful architecture resided being rotted. |
| 09:18.49 | Jamash | they're depressed 'cause they're dead, so they want to make everyone else depressed as well |
| 09:19.03 | Wobin | I mean, honestly, terrible staircases |
| 09:19.07 | Jamash | oh god yes |
| 09:19.09 | Wobin | deadly lifts |
| 09:19.25 | Wobin | It's like they don't -want- us to visit! |
| 09:19.58 | Wobin | hm |
| 09:20.19 | Jamash | I like BT in part because it's good for skinning, herbalism and cloth scavenging |
| 09:20.43 | Jamash | which are the skills I have on my three 70+ characters, sooo... |
| 09:23.45 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 09:24.00 | jnwhiteh | but Fjord has cleansing your inner turmoil |
| 09:24.00 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:24.17 | Jamash | yeah that quest is pretty cool |
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| 09:24.39 | jnwhiteh | and the flying machine daily |
| 09:24.40 | jnwhiteh | cmon :P |
| 09:24.43 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 09:25.16 | Antiarc | http://www.wegame.com/watch/Team_Angelform_Thorim_Sif/ |
| 09:25.23 | Antiarc | Did Thorim-10 hardmode tonight \o/ |
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| 09:25.27 | durcyn | man, screw that daily |
| 09:25.30 | Antiarc | Hodir and possibly Mimiron tomorrow. |
| 09:25.31 | Kalroth | Antiarc: It's pretty fun |
| 09:25.43 | Kalroth | Hodir is easy, Mimiron is .. well, interesting. :) |
| 09:25.49 | durcyn | never doing flying machine again now that i'm finally exalted with those dwarf bastards |
| 09:25.50 | Antiarc | Heh, so I hear. |
| 09:26.00 | Antiarc | We have Mimiron non-hard down quite solid, so I'm hopeful |
| 09:26.01 | durcyn | mimiron is.. yeah. |
| 09:26.14 | Kalroth | Freya +3 is just painful |
| 09:26.20 | Antiarc | yeah. We're saving that for last. |
| 09:26.21 | Kalroth | Not so much in 10 man though |
| 09:26.37 | jnwhiteh | durcyn: you get anything for getting exalted with them? |
| 09:26.42 | durcyn | doomfire that walks up and taps you on the shoulder was just a cruel addition to that fight :( |
| 09:26.47 | Tem | Thorim hard 10 is surprizingly easy |
| 09:26.48 | durcyn | jnwhiteh: nope :/ |
| 09:26.53 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 09:26.54 | Tem | we did it by accident our first time in |
| 09:26.59 | Antiarc | As long as you have good healers, yeah |
| 09:27.09 | Tem | had stellar healers that night |
| 09:27.11 | Kalroth | Making Sif join is very easy, yeah |
| 09:27.12 | durcyn | jnwhiteh: Frosthold in two days, too :) |
| 09:27.22 | jnwhiteh | dunno what that means |
| 09:27.29 | Tem | I soloed Dwarfageddon today |
| 09:27.31 | Tem | that was fun |
| 09:27.32 | Kalroth | Making rogues understand that they can't stack on top of the tanks is a little harder |
| 09:27.41 | durcyn | the other faction in storm peaks, with the eagle daily |
| 09:27.54 | durcyn | i've been doing them both every day since november :( |
| 09:28.00 | Kalroth | Tem: We sent a druid on a bike and pulled -everything- from Leviathan spot to the entrance |
| 09:28.05 | Antiarc | We usually split the melee on either side of him. Don't have to three-point it, since he has a generous hitbox |
| 09:28.15 | Kalroth | Tem: He came back with 93458039485345 dwarves and 3% health :p |
| 09:28.17 | Tem | Kalroth, you can do it with the first pull >.> |
| 09:28.30 | Taroven | rofl Kalroth. |
| 09:29.03 | Kalroth | It was really sick. At first it was "ooh, nice amount of dwar .. what the OH GOD" |
| 09:29.19 | Kalroth | I got a decent machine and I froze for 10 seconds when everything died |
| 09:29.19 | Taroven | XD |
| 09:29.31 | Jamash | haha |
| 09:29.50 | Tem | rofl |
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| 10:12.57 | Shirik | pokes Cairenn |
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| 10:20.00 | Shirik | except I need to teach you how to kick too :/ |
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| 10:21.57 | Shirik | !reload |
| 10:21.57 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 10:24.27 | jnwhiteh | lua_bot always responds to owner commands via PM |
| 10:24.31 | jnwhiteh | so no one has to see my silly errors :P |
| 10:24.59 | Shirik | :( |
| 10:25.24 | jnwhiteh | why sad face? |
| 10:25.28 | Shirik | I really need to make it so he knows how to understand PMs |
| 10:25.48 | Shirik | My patterns are off so he doesn't pick them up |
| 10:25.59 | Shirik | and I've been too lazy to fix them |
| 10:27.00 | Shirik | and sad face is that I had silly error :P |
| 10:27.11 | Shirik | PHP and Lua don't get along |
| 10:27.18 | Shirik | PHP concats with . while Lua concats with .. |
| 10:27.25 | jnwhiteh | where are you using php? |
| 10:27.32 | Shirik | I was messing around on my site earlier |
| 10:27.36 | jnwhiteh | ah |
| 10:27.37 | jnwhiteh | gotcha =) |
| 10:28.18 | Shirik | ok time to board |
| 10:28.19 | Shirik | baibai |
| 10:28.24 | Shirik | Problem with first class: You board first >.> |
| 10:32.01 | Antiarc | http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1xnwp&s=5 |
| 10:32.28 | Taroven | o.0 |
| 10:32.33 | Taroven | Owned. |
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| 10:50.25 | batrick | batbot really needs a reload routine |
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| 11:05.27 | Kraftman | kraftbot needs a soul :( |
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| 11:16.54 | Industrial | Kraftman: from AI import * |
| 11:16.55 | Industrial | :P |
| 11:17.33 | Kraftman | ^^ |
| 11:22.01 | Jamash | more like: from Skynet import * |
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| 11:27.12 | Fisker- | http://www.futuremark.com/pressroom/pressreleases/55615/ <-haha excellent name |
| 11:27.46 | Jamash | speed isn't everything |
| 11:29.08 | Fisker- | says the firefox user |
| 11:29.13 | Fisker- | BADUM PISCH |
| 11:30.13 | Jamash | http://instantrimshot.com/ |
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| 11:35.21 | Fisker- | wanna merge accounts Jamash ? |
| 11:35.44 | Jamash | kinky |
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| 12:00.29 | jnwhiteh | who wants to help me with my trig =) |
| 12:01.12 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 12:01.14 | jnwhiteh | maybe i can figure it out |
| 12:01.18 | Kalroth | is that some sort of pickup line? |
| 12:01.34 | jnwhiteh | lol |
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| 12:05.54 | Industrial | jnwhiteh: your what? |
| 12:06.15 | jnwhiteh | trigonometry :P |
| 12:06.32 | Industrial | not me! |
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| 12:20.31 | jnwhiteh | yay |
| 12:20.33 | jnwhiteh | my edumacation worked |
| 12:20.38 | jnwhiteh | i actually remembered, lol |
| 12:23.42 | foxlit | congratulations on solving an unspecified problem :) |
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| 12:26.54 | jnwhiteh | ty! |
| 12:28.41 | Kraftman | http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/1684984/security_experts_find_missile_data_on_hard_drives/index.html |
| 12:30.39 | Fisker- | old |
| 12:30.41 | Fisker- | hai jnwhiteh |
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| 13:10.36 | sioraiocht | @src foldr |
| 13:10.43 | sioraiocht | oops, wrong window |
| 13:10.53 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 13:11.03 | alestane | That smelled like a mistell. |
| 13:11.47 | ZorbaTHut | I've typed "ls" into IRC more than a few times |
| 13:12.38 | Lopeppeppy | I am good and innocent, I've never ever done such a thing. |
| 13:12.45 | Lopeppeppy | ... if you believe that, I'll sell you another one. :) |
| 13:13.43 | alestane | I typed the password to a private channel into an open channel once, although thankfully it was mostly empty. |
| 13:13.59 | alestane | And I believe cogwheel typed his wow password into IRC more than once. |
| 13:14.35 | Kraps | saving a raid from a haigen wipe is nice |
| 13:15.46 | Lopeppeppy | I adore that Bliz doesn't have an "on sale time" for blizcon tickets yet. *boggles* |
| 13:15.56 | Kraps | ot died mt dced, i was there in my dual fury spec putting out a solid 1k dps :/ |
| 13:16.27 | Kraps | but i had switched to main spec before the pull |
| 13:16.39 | TwN | damnit, can't wait till sunday.. |
| 13:17.16 | ZorbaTHut | alestane, I've typed my authenticator number in a few times |
| 13:17.29 | alestane | That's not quite so damaging ,anyway. |
| 13:17.42 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, it's mostly "ha ha, you guys *still* can't get into my account" |
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| 13:23.45 | dardack_ | anyone know what frame:GetRegions() returns when it's the nameplate? |
| 13:24.05 | ZorbaTHut | lope, any idea what time it usually is? I kinda want a ticket this year |
| 13:24.26 | foxlit | infoTip:SetBackdrop(GameTooltip:GetBackdrop()); |
| 13:24.38 | alestane | I am perpetually amused and disturbed by the number of people who endorse host redirection as a way to avoid site ads, either to avoid viruses, enjoy ad-free browsing, or "cheat" the hosting sites of the ad-money they 'stole from WoWMatrix.' |
| 13:24.40 | foxlit | I wonder which addon breaks my idyllic harmony on that line :( |
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| 13:24.57 | Lopeppeppy | Zorba, no one is saying, but what they *are* saying is that they would need their web team in the office, so... 9am Cali time seems like. But they simply will NOT commit to a time. |
| 13:26.00 | ZorbaTHut | well, I expect to be awake then, so that's cool |
| 13:26.36 | Lopeppeppy | I'd be awake starting 7am Cali time myself, if I were crusing for a ticket. |
| 13:28.10 | ZorbaTHut | I'm actually expecting to be awake starting at around 10pm Cali time, so, y'know, s'all good |
| 13:30.07 | Lopeppeppy | The further in advance you're ready, the better. Good luck, Zorba! |
| 13:30.13 | ZorbaTHut | thanks :) |
| 13:35.03 | dardack | i nkow you can define unitid as like 'player' 'target' etc is there 'mouseover'? |
| 13:36.52 | ZorbaTHut | dardack, yes |
| 13:37.01 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 13:37.08 | jnwhiteh | horde and alliance have captured the keep the same number of times |
| 13:37.11 | jnwhiteh | horde has defended twice as often |
| 13:37.14 | dardack | thanks zorba |
| 13:37.20 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 13:37.24 | jnwhiteh | twice as much as we've captures |
| 13:37.25 | jnwhiteh | i.e. 500 times |
| 13:37.28 | jnwhiteh | we've defended 11 times |
| 13:37.29 | jnwhiteh | ever :p |
| 13:37.37 | dardack | now i have to figure out how to place some text at the mouse |
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| 13:45.48 | dardack | i'm trying to know if i understand this correctly- rawthreatpct:Number - returns the unit's threat as a percentage of the tank's current threat. Returns nil if the unit is not on the mob's threat list. So if tank is 100% what happens when ranged gets to 110%? |
| 13:46.30 | Kalroth | nothing |
| 13:46.41 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, ranged has to hit 130% to pull aggro :D |
| 13:46.44 | Kalroth | They wont pull aggro until 130% :p |
| 13:47.21 | ZorbaTHut | however, in answer to that, I suspect the answer is that the ranged ends up at 100%, and the tank ends up at about 77% |
| 13:47.42 | Kalroth | Something like that, yeah |
| 13:47.50 | dardack | not what happens, i meant what would be returned |
| 13:48.05 | dardack | ok |
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| 13:53.50 | dardack | is there a way to eliminate the 'player' from looping through the raid#, like if i have a loop 1 to raid# and checking each raid# |
| 13:54.01 | jnwhiteh | not sure I undestand the question |
| 13:54.04 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 13:54.05 | ScytheBlade1 | http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=124234857222877&w=2 |
| 13:54.26 | ScytheBlade1 | dardack: check UnitName("player") ~= UnitName("raid#") |
| 13:54.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Well |
| 13:54.36 | dardack | awesomet thanks |
| 13:54.40 | ScytheBlade1 | UnitIsUnit would be better |
| 13:54.47 | alestane | UnitIsUnit("player", "raid5") |
| 13:54.51 | ScytheBlade1 | if (UnitIsUnit("player", "raid#") |
| 13:54.55 | ScytheBlade1 | ) |
| 13:55.09 | dardack | scthe: that would return true if that was the player? |
| 13:55.15 | dardack | so i want to do ~ |
| 13:55.15 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the idea, yes |
| 13:55.22 | dardack | thanks again |
| 13:55.29 | ScytheBlade1 | It depends on how you're doing it |
| 13:55.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Either way 'could work' |
| 13:55.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Neither is 'wrong' |
| 13:55.52 | alestane | if not UnitIsUnit("player", "raid5") then |
| 13:56.01 | dardack | well through the loop when i get to myself i can skip the math and ust assign player threat to a local variable |
| 13:56.45 | Jamash | so there was some code I thought I had to write |
| 13:56.49 | Jamash | and it turns out I already wrote it |
| 13:56.59 | Jamash | now I'm both pleased and confused |
| 13:58.00 | alestane | Pleased that you don't have to do it, confused as to when it got done? |
| 13:58.00 | jnwhiteh | the player is always "Raid" .. GetNumRaidMembers() imo |
| 13:58.01 | jnwhiteh | err "raid" |
| 13:58.01 | jnwhiteh | so no need to check anything |
| 13:58.09 | Jamash | alestane: yeah |
| 13:58.27 | jnwhiteh | or if it makes you more comfortable |
| 13:58.45 | jnwhiteh | local playerRaidID = "raid" .. UnitInRaid("player") + 1 |
| 13:58.47 | jnwhiteh | will always work |
| 13:59.26 | ScytheBlade1 | jnwhiteh: wait, I could have sworn that isn't the case |
| 13:59.32 | jnwhiteh | it is |
| 13:59.56 | ScytheBlade1 | man, now I want to test, but I have a literal $0.01 in the bank :P |
| 14:00.09 | jnwhiteh | I'm in game |
| 14:00.11 | jnwhiteh | I just tested =) |
| 14:00.14 | ScytheBlade1 | huh |
| 14:00.15 | jnwhiteh | and I documented both of those functions |
| 14:05.09 | dardack | so the player will always be the last raid# so i can do a loop to getraidmembers()-1? |
| 14:05.21 | dardack | to skip the player |
| 14:08.45 | jnwhiteh | I have yet to see an instance where that isn't the case, yes. |
| 14:08.51 | jnwhiteh | and the documentation we have says that is the case |
| 14:08.58 | jnwhiteh | however, if you want to know definitively what unit is the player's |
| 14:09.05 | jnwhiteh | its "raid" .. UnitInRaid("player") + 1 |
| 14:09.13 | jnwhiteh | so you can save that, and just skip that unit. |
| 14:09.43 | dardack | thanks jnwhiteh |
| 14:09.43 | jnwhiteh | np |
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| 14:15.04 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 14:15.35 | Lopeppeppy | Heya |
| 14:16.34 | Lopeppeppy | Question of Great Randomness: Bands/artists similar to coldplay/nickelback? |
| 14:17.22 | kneeki | Lopeppeppy, When I want to discover new music like that, I just use Pandora |
| 14:17.26 | alestane | I'm not sure that I'd call Nickelback and Coldplay that similar. |
| 14:17.37 | kneeki | Create a Coldplay & Nickleback radio and see what it plays =) |
| 14:17.38 | Lopeppeppy | Kneeki, I'm trying to program a new Pandora station. :) |
| 14:17.45 | kneeki | Lopeppeppy, ... oh |
| 14:17.46 | kneeki | lol |
| 14:17.55 | Lopeppeppy | I just wanted to give it a few more seeds right off the bat, so I don't have to monitor it as heavily. |
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| 14:18.50 | Lopeppeppy | Creed. 3 Doors Down. Yes. |
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| 14:23.36 | Wobin | matchbox 20 |
| 14:24.05 | kneeki | Love their old stuff |
| 14:24.11 | kneeki | Rainmaker ftw |
| 14:24.38 | Wobin | The Fray |
| 14:24.51 | Wobin | Incubus? |
| 14:25.07 | Wobin | Lifehouse |
| 14:25.26 | Lopeppeppy | Fray, matchbox20, yes yes. Lifehouse I'm never sure of... |
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| 14:25.35 | Wobin | That's about all I can think of off the top of my head |
| 14:25.44 | Wobin | Maroon5? |
| 14:25.55 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, yes! |
| 14:25.59 | Lopeppeppy | adores the music station now! |
| 14:26.06 | Wobin | Vertical Horizon |
| 14:26.30 | Lopeppeppy | Chad Kroeger. |
| 14:26.38 | Wobin | Isn't that Nickleback? |
| 14:26.55 | Wobin | (PS, hate how the vocoded voice always sounds the same) |
| 14:26.56 | Lopeppeppy | He has a few things that are just him -- like with Santana. |
| 14:27.41 | Wobin | Poe... maybe |
| 14:28.12 | Wobin | Mat Kearney? |
| 14:28.54 | Lopeppeppy | Don't know those two.... |
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| 14:30.17 | Wobin | Mat Kearney did "Undeniable" |
| 14:31.57 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, that song. *nod* |
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| 14:32.06 | dardack | will update on mouseover in a 25 man everytime i mouse over a hostile will that slow things down alot? |
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| 14:33.36 | Wobin | James Blunt? |
| 14:33.50 | Wobin | dardack: what are you trying to update? |
| 14:34.19 | dardack | i want to place some text at the mouse |
| 14:34.47 | Wobin | like a tooltip? |
| 14:35.57 | dardack | well |
| 14:36.03 | dardack | i could just be a font string and i would be happy |
| 14:36.31 | Lopeppeppy | Linkin Park, forgot them... |
| 14:37.37 | Wobin | tending towards Evanescence then? =) |
| 14:38.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: by adding Maroon5, you have lost -any and all- innocence you have ever claimed to have |
| 14:38.02 | Lopeppeppy | No, I think I don't want much from female vocalists on this channel. "Guys Rock" is a good title for it. |
| 14:38.13 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1, do tell? *dwg* |
| 14:38.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Nothing, probably. Just woke up, saw that and decided to harass |
| 14:38.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Still trying to function |
| 14:38.50 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, that's all right then. :) |
| 14:38.58 | Wobin | likes James Blunt, aside from the overplayed singles |
| 14:39.13 | Wobin | Oh, and Guy Rock... try Thirsty Merc =) |
| 14:39.26 | Wobin | although that's a bit 'poppy' at times... |
| 14:39.38 | Wobin | went to school with the lead from Thirsty Merc |
| 14:40.31 | Lopeppeppy | Pop is for the debbil on this station. I already have a bubblegum station. :) |
| 14:40.49 | Anaralx2 | Anyone else here testing Shirik's alpha of MMOUI Manager? I'm not able to open the application, and not sure if it's a bug with Win Vista 64 or if it's me. >.< |
| 14:41.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Anaralx2: more info needed, namely, what is/isn't happening |
| 14:41.21 | Seerah | Lopeppeppy: Silverchair, Candlebox, Our Lady Peace, Everclear, Vertical Horizon, Verve Pipe, Goo Goo Dolls, Fuel(?) |
| 14:41.31 | Wobin | hehe, Silverchair |
| 14:41.33 | Wobin | yeh |
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| 14:42.08 | Anaralx2 | ScytheBlade Here's the log: http://www.pastey.net/114272 |
| 14:42.14 | Wobin | The Living End |
| 14:42.23 | Wobin | Powderfinger |
| 14:42.28 | Wobin | Regurgitator |
| 14:42.36 | Anaralx2 | The short error is, 'Cannot Start Application'. |
| 14:42.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Anaralx2: either he packaged it wrong or your file is corrupt |
| 14:42.46 | Wobin | Jet |
| 14:42.49 | Wobin | The Vines |
| 14:42.51 | Seerah | Anaralx2: did you try a clean install? |
| 14:42.56 | Wobin | reels off aussie rock bands =P |
| 14:43.04 | Seerah | oh yeah - he did do something wrong last night and fixed it |
| 14:43.22 | Anaralx2 | It was a clean install, this is the first time I've downloaded it. |
| 14:43.34 | Seerah | post your log in the alpha testers forum then |
| 14:43.43 | Seerah | or a pastey of it, I mean |
| 14:43.46 | Seerah | *link |
| 14:43.48 | Seerah | sighs |
| 14:44.14 | Anaralx2 | Thank's Seerah, that was pretty much what I wanted to know, whether I should post, or if it was a 'user' error. |
| 14:44.53 | Lopeppeppy | Ooh, thanks Seerah! |
| 14:44.59 | Seerah | :) |
| 14:45.18 | Seerah | I may have skimmed past a couple others on my shelf I feel like, but glad it helped :) |
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| 14:46.40 | alestane | Vertical Horizon is pretty good. |
| 14:46.46 | Fisker- | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:48.10 | Wobin | I quite liked them |
| 14:48.26 | Wobin | a bit laid back |
| 14:48.57 | Kraps | can a 73 priest heal gundrak ok? |
| 14:49.13 | foxlit | a 73 pries shouldn't even be in Zul'drak! |
| 14:49.16 | foxlit | ^t |
| 14:49.20 | Wobin | it would be very tough |
| 14:49.44 | Kraps | foxlit: good point |
| 14:50.40 | Osstia | i would say a 73 priest could heal an 80 geared tank |
| 14:50.47 | Osstia | but i wouldm't try it with a low group |
| 14:52.21 | Wobin | might be tough if people get wrapped on the snake boss |
| 14:52.43 | Osstia | I ususally just Prayer'd that fight |
| 14:52.49 | Osstia | so with good DPS it goes fast |
| 14:53.08 | Wobin | So where can we download Minion? |
| 14:53.37 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=124 |
| 14:54.07 | Lopeppeppy | Various links are listed. |
| 14:54.08 | Fisker- | OMG IS IT OUT? |
| 14:54.31 | Osstia | I have spent a bit of time with my good buddy google, and am not having a lot of luck. Can anyone point me towards some documentation on how to use the "new" (relative term i know) blizzard options stuff? |
| 14:54.48 | foxlit | Osstia: FrameXML/Something.lua |
| 14:54.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Osstia: it's documented in the source code |
| 14:55.12 | Osstia | feels dumb, thanks guys |
| 14:55.16 | foxlit | where Something = UIOptionsFrame, scroll towards the bottom. |
| 14:55.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Which doesn't surprise me that you couldn't find it -- it's probably the only thing that IS |
| 14:55.20 | Osstia | or gals as the sace may be |
| 14:55.30 | Osstia | s/sace/case/ |
| 14:55.43 | Lopeppeppy | I read that sauce, and I'm happy to be saucy. :) |
| 14:55.47 | Lopeppeppy | AFK early lunchings. |
| 14:55.56 | Osstia | haha |
| 14:56.06 | Osstia | you + me + some sauce |
| 14:56.10 | Osstia | thats a good lunch |
| 14:56.39 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: meh, I still can't find a link |
| 14:56.47 | Seerah | Wobin: Sunday |
| 14:57.13 | Wobin | But there is a download -somewhere-? |
| 14:57.25 | Seerah | only for alpha testers |
| 14:57.29 | Fisker- | gives Wobin teh goggles |
| 14:57.30 | Wobin | oh |
| 14:57.32 | Wobin | pft |
| 14:57.41 | Fisker- | Wobin is an alpha tester |
| 14:57.41 | Seerah | huggles Wobin |
| 14:57.50 | Fisker- | he just washed of his stamp |
| 14:58.00 | Wobin | damn that water soluble ink |
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| 14:58.31 | Kraps | minion is downloadable yet? |
| 14:58.40 | Seerah | Kraps: read up :p |
| 14:59.09 | Fisker- | we're all alpha testers |
| 14:59.15 | Fisker- | who were unfortunate enough to wash off our stamps |
| 15:02.06 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYAOf5aKE78 <- Rai. 'Acoustic' version =P |
| 15:05.00 | Aelobin | Wobin: remember those DK questions your helped me with ages ago? |
| 15:05.04 | Aelobin | i finished it :) http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Chamber+of+Aspects&n=Frozendeath |
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| 15:06.48 | Wobin | gonna leave him for pvp? =) |
| 15:06.52 | Aelobin | yus ^^ |
| 15:06.56 | Aelobin | spent like 5k <_> |
| 15:07.02 | Aelobin | if she ever levels i'll be sad lol |
| 15:07.54 | Fisker- | i hope she does |
| 15:08.30 | Fisker- | and i hope that Blizzard at some point smoothes out the 60-70 curve and keeping exp rather than the proportion |
| 15:08.43 | Fisker- | so you can be unlucky and login with 60000 exp/40000 for example |
| 15:08.45 | Fisker- | and level up |
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| 15:15.43 | Aelobin | =o |
| 15:15.45 | Aelobin | evil |
| 15:16.03 | Aelobin | i'm only a third through the lvl :P |
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| 15:24.39 | dardack | can anyone point me in the right direction where i would find help at placing a fontstring at the mouse? |
| 15:25.18 | Seerah | as asked earlier - "like a tooltip"? |
| 15:25.24 | Seerah | you want this separate from the tooltip? |
| 15:25.39 | dardack | yea just a fontstring i don't need a frame |
| 15:25.44 | dardack | unless i actually need a frame |
| 15:25.52 | Seerah | :) |
| 15:26.06 | Seerah | what is this for? |
| 15:27.20 | dardack | ok what i'm doing is getting my threat (hopefuly is 100%) then all the party/raid member sthreat, keeping the highest, taking my 100%-highest behind me and want to display that difference on mouse over |
| 15:27.56 | Seerah | of mobs in the 3-d world? |
| 15:28.21 | dardack | i don't understnad that question, hostile mobs |
| 15:28.43 | Seerah | unit frames or 3d world |
| 15:28.55 | Wobin | the easiest way I imagine would be to put a tooltip at the mouse on mouseover |
| 15:28.58 | dardack | when i mouse over the nameplates |
| 15:29.12 | Wobin | he means 3d world |
| 15:29.16 | Seerah | don't nameplates show threat now? |
| 15:29.23 | dardack | they only show absolute |
| 15:29.39 | Wobin | basically to see if anyone other than the tank has a higher aggro |
| 15:29.42 | dardack | i want to see how close the second person to me is, especially on aoe pulls |
| 15:29.57 | dardack | so if 1 is 30% and antoher is only 5% i want to switch targets |
| 15:30.26 | Seerah | but yeah, you'll want to create a new tooltip (a separate, custom one, if you want it to be and show separate from the regular tooltip) |
| 15:30.50 | dardack | ok |
| 15:32.13 | Seerah | though, if you're putting this out for download, you'll have to consider what would happen if users have their GameTooltip anchored to the mouse already |
| 15:32.39 | Seerah | would probably be best to just add that info to the tooltip using GameTooltip:AddLine(blah) GameTooltip:Show() |
| 15:32.55 | Seerah | then it'll show up at the bottom of your tolltip |
| 15:32.57 | Seerah | *tooltip |
| 15:33.13 | dardack | hmmm |
| 15:33.19 | dardack | so i don't have to make my own tooltip that way? |
| 15:33.57 | Seerah | if you want a two column thingy, then use GameTooltip:AddDoubleLine("Threat:", blah) GameTooltip:Show() (the show call redraws the tooltip so your stuff fits inside) |
| 15:33.58 | Seerah | yep |
| 15:34.25 | Seerah | that way it'll have the mob name and everything already, so you'll even know which mob's threat info it is |
| 15:34.35 | Seerah | and it'll be wherever you already have your tooltip (or any users) |
| 15:35.12 | Seerah | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets#gametooltip |
| 15:35.56 | dardack | interesting |
| 15:36.28 | dardack | seerah thanks so much, i never release mystuff, always nervious my coding sux |
| 15:36.33 | dardack | but appreciate the help |
| 15:36.36 | Seerah | :) |
| 15:41.01 | dardack | does UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT just fire unitid? |
| 15:41.19 | dardack | um i mean when registered to a function, is unitid passed? |
| 15:41.33 | Zhinjio | dardack: everyone's stuff sucks at one point. Then you get ridiculed in these channels, you grow a thicker skin, and someday, you can ridicule people too! |
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| 15:42.30 | dardack | Zhinjio: oh i have thick skin, i just know that after 11 years away from programming, become an accountant and then a forensic investigator, your programming skills suffer, plus nto sure if anyone else likes what i want anyways |
| 15:42.49 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 15:42.52 | Zhinjio | you'd be surprised. |
| 15:42.58 | Zhinjio | worst thing that happens is noone downloads it. |
| 15:43.01 | ZorbaTHut | dardack, luckily, nobody is forced to use your mod, so put it up on the sites anyway and see |
| 15:43.25 | dardack | well first i gotta get it working |
| 15:43.27 | Seerah | dardack: here's more info on it, but no, iirc: http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Unit_Info |
| 15:43.41 | Osstia | and dardack, always remember theres always someone worse than you :) |
| 15:43.50 | dardack | osstia: perhaps |
| 15:43.54 | dardack | Seerah: i was looking there |
| 15:44.21 | dardack | it says unitid so wasn't sure if when i registered it to a function if the funtion receives the unitid, prolly not since it will always return mouseover |
| 15:44.31 | dardack | that is the proper unitid right just mouseover? |
| 15:44.35 | Seerah | yep |
| 15:45.21 | dardack | danke |
| 15:49.31 | dardack | will GetNumPartyMembers() return 1-4 if in a raid? |
| 15:49.42 | Seerah | yes |
| 15:49.52 | dardack | thanks |
| 15:50.06 | dardack | and GetNumRaid will return 0 if in just a party? |
| 15:50.50 | Seerah | yep |
| 15:50.54 | dardack | thanks |
| 15:51.38 | Industrial | can open office open office xecel files? |
| 15:51.49 | Industrial | excel whatever |
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| 15:52.05 | alestane | Generally, yes. |
| 15:52.05 | Nitra | Yeah, .xls at least |
| 15:52.26 | alestane | It may have some issues with any macros, but the basic file format is supported. |
| 15:52.27 | Industrial | ok. nice. |
| 15:52.27 | Seerah | indie: yep |
| 15:52.30 | Seerah | can save in that format, too |
| 15:52.43 | Industrial | meeeh, I need to open a hunter dps sheet |
| 15:53.22 | airtonix | gnumeric might have better luck with those 'exotic' macros? |
| 15:53.32 | Industrial | No Open Office version available, SO QUIT ASKING OR KAUBEL WILL BAN YOU FOR BEING STUPID. |
| 15:53.36 | Industrial | damn :p |
| 15:53.38 | airtonix | i know abiword deals with non-compliant word docs better than open office |
| 15:53.56 | Industrial | (stupid elitistjerk people, now i need to go get office and i dont even want it on my pc) |
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| 15:54.20 | Seerah | wait, why can't you get open office? |
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| 15:54.34 | Industrial | cause the only sheet i wanna open with it says it doesnt work in openoffice next to it |
| 15:54.37 | Industrial | >_. |
| 15:54.47 | Seerah | ohhhhh |
| 15:54.55 | Seerah | oh - I know! |
| 15:54.58 | Seerah | Google Docs |
| 15:55.00 | Seerah | try that |
| 15:55.02 | airtonix | Industrial, one last thing you could try is to open it with google spreadsheet |
| 15:55.05 | Industrial | hm, that might work |
| 15:55.08 | Seerah | <- win |
| 15:55.10 | airtonix | jinx |
| 15:55.37 | airtonix | there is also another ajax type spreadsheet thing around, but i forget its name |
| 15:56.08 | Lunessa | station. |
| 15:56.33 | Industrial | too large to import :p |
| 15:57.18 | Seerah | http://www.zoho.com/ |
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| 15:57.42 | Wobin | woo |
| 15:57.43 | Wobin | http://www.ohgizmo.com/2009/05/15/rumor-eee-keyboard-to-be-released-next-month/ |
| 15:57.47 | Seerah | if it's too big, www.box.net is a storage site that uses Zoho to edit stuff online |
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| 15:58.21 | airtonix | Lunessa, whats this 'station' you speak of? |
| 15:58.29 | Industrial | Wobin: oh damn, nice |
| 15:58.49 | Lunessa | dude, non non non heinous! |
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| 15:59.12 | dardack | yea unfortunately, the complex macro's in excel do not port well into openoffice, close format and all, i know that 1.1 odf spreadsheets also haven't agreed on how forumls's should be done so even if in excel you used the plugin to export it as an odf it isn't compliant either, hope 1.2 will define set forumla's than someday macro's hopefully |
| 15:59.35 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 16:00.02 | Lunessa | airtonix: IMDB "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure" and "Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey". |
| 16:00.47 | nicoli_s | the third bill and ted is the best |
| 16:00.47 | airtonix | Lunessa, i've seen them both, but not recently |
| 16:00.53 | dardack | bill and ted rule |
| 16:01.09 | Lopeppeppy | Be excellent to one another. |
| 16:01.18 | Lunessa | Be excellent to each other. Party on, Dudes! |
| 16:01.34 | dardack | ok if i'm looping through party/raid is this correct: UnitDetailedThreatSituation('party'..i,'mouseover')? |
| 16:02.24 | Lunessa | Only if you want your threat value vs your mouseover... |
| 16:02.39 | airtonix | dardack, http://github.com/airtonix/oufsmee2groups/blob/9667896d68056fa2a486b671551592d857f22433/oUF_Smee2_Groups/core.lua#L77-85 |
| 16:02.43 | dardack | i want the party# threat vs the mouseover |
| 16:03.00 | Industrial | hehe, zoho froze my FF guess its a big sheet |
| 16:03.08 | airtonix | dardack, that block shows the threat of the unit versus its target |
| 16:03.19 | Lunessa | huggles Lopeppeppy. |
| 16:03.28 | Industrial | oh works now, thanks Seerah|away |
| 16:03.30 | dardack | i know airtonix, i mean is the 'party'..i correct? |
| 16:03.39 | airtonix | dardack, yes |
| 16:03.44 | dardack | like if the for i=1, blach |
| 16:03.51 | dardack | ok |
| 16:03.52 | Lunessa | Oh, and guess who got up early today to camp tickets, only to discover that it's /tomorrow/? |
| 16:03.53 | dardack | thanks |
| 16:04.17 | airtonix | dardack, but, you shouldnt need to |
| 16:04.32 | dardack | why? |
| 16:05.04 | airtonix | dardack, because you can hook that function in your layout function |
| 16:05.13 | dardack | not for mylayout |
| 16:05.15 | dardack | but thanks |
| 16:06.40 | AckisWork | lol today is my bosses last day and all she is saying is how she's going to take her stapler with her, so I linked her the office space clip and now there's a huge e-mail chain going around. |
| 16:06.55 | airtonix | dardack, i dont understand? |
| 16:07.28 | dardack | what don't you understand, if you missed what im looking to do, i understnad, i'm looking to on aoe pulls put the difference in threat between me and the 2nd highest on mouseover in the tooltip |
| 16:08.07 | airtonix | dardack, http://github.com/airtonix/oufsmee2/blob/2f33d3a661affe27138acea602114749b5275444/oUF/elements/threat.lua |
| 16:08.37 | airtonix | dardack, there are already two calls to hooks for a unitsframe based on threat events |
| 16:08.59 | airtonix | you can use those to update a layout scoped table that you work with to do this |
| 16:09.16 | airtonix | dardack, sorry not two , three |
| 16:09.44 | airtonix | dardack, self.PreUpdateThreat, self.OverrideUpdateThreat & self.PostUpdateThreat |
| 16:09.47 | dardack | i don't understand what you are saying sorry, i'm not looking to update a layout, i'm looking to add this to a unitframe i believe, since there is no way to grab all the unitid's from around you on an AOE pull |
| 16:10.01 | dardack | so mouseover is the only way to grab non targeted mobs |
| 16:11.17 | airtonix | ok |
| 16:11.39 | dardack | if i'm not conveying what i'm trying to do i am sorry |
| 16:11.51 | dardack | but i don't believe i can hook into an OUF threat function to do what i want |
| 16:11.54 | airtonix | no i think i understand now, omen used to have this feature |
| 16:12.35 | dardack | ok cool, i looked at aloft, but the experimental AOE threat, each mob has to have a Raid icon AND eahc mob needs to be targeted by a pet/party member |
| 16:12.43 | dardack | so i figured the best compromise would be a mouseover |
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| 16:12.49 | dardack | for a quick check |
| 16:12.53 | airtonix | so as you mouse over , you're building a table of mobs and their guid? |
| 16:13.45 | dardack | i was just gonna run through each party member get their threat and just keep the highest and display the difference between mine (100%) and the highest |
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| 16:13.52 | dardack | so i guess it would run each time on mouseover |
| 16:14.22 | dardack | brb phone |
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| 16:20.31 | Kraps | 2 people breaking 2.5k dps in 10 vault, emalon doable? |
| 16:21.12 | dardack | you need to do about 220k in 17seconds |
| 16:21.19 | dardack | if your people can get on the mob within 3 seconds |
| 16:21.32 | dardack | i think |
| 16:21.42 | dardack | i just did this morning sigh i forget their health now |
| 16:22.27 | kneeki | Damn this Deep Sea monsterbelly daily! |
| 16:22.37 | kneeki | 14 mins so far |
| 16:22.43 | kneeki | hates it, I do. |
| 16:23.13 | dardack | i feel ya kneeki |
| 16:23.56 | dardack | kraps: from wowwiki Assuming all dps is attacking within three seconds of the first Overcharge application, each dps will need a minimum of 1.6k dps to down the minions in time. |
| 16:24.08 | dardack | but i find it's more like 5 when i'm tanking |
| 16:24.25 | dardack | and we got em down with only 6 stacks, so we had very good dps |
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| 16:25.22 | dardack | ok i'm typing it wrong what is the unitincombat check? |
| 16:26.28 | alestane | UnitAffectingCombat? |
| 16:26.31 | Kraps | so i died cuz the mt didnt pull emalon off me at the pull |
| 16:27.02 | airtonix | UnitAffectingCombat("unit") - Determine if the unit is in combat or has aggro. (returns nil if "false" and 1 if "true") |
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| 16:27.19 | dardack | thanks both, i just kept typing it wrong |
| 16:27.25 | dardack | is there a check if unit is hostile? |
| 16:27.30 | airtonix | yes |
| 16:28.12 | dardack | kraps: since i'm dk with more health, i usually tank adds about middle of stairs, death grip first one and MT taunts emalon off me, but i believe in 10 man if you have a tank with 31k unbuffed you can tank all 5(i have for about 40% before) |
| 16:28.41 | airtonix | UnitIsEnemy("unit", "otherUnit") - Returns true if the specified units are enemies, false otherwise. |
| 16:28.48 | dardack | airtonix: thanks |
| 16:29.06 | dardack | wait does that return true if player is ally and mouseover is horde? |
| 16:29.19 | airtonix | should do |
| 16:29.34 | airtonix | UnitCanAttack("unit", "otherUnit") - Returns true if the first unit can attack the second, false otherwise. |
| 16:29.53 | dardack | ok |
| 16:30.07 | airtonix | remember on pve realms, UnitIsEnemy will be true for a alliance targeting a horde, but UnitCanAttack will be false |
| 16:30.18 | airtonix | unless the horde flags up |
| 16:30.20 | dardack | is there a way to determine if the otherunit is horde? what if both have pvp flags on? |
| 16:30.23 | dardack | right |
| 16:30.34 | dardack | so is there a test on unitid for faction? |
| 16:30.39 | dardack | and nil if it's a npc? |
| 16:30.40 | airtonix | yes |
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| 16:30.57 | airtonix | UnitIsPlayer("unit") - Returns true if the specified unit is a player character, false otherwise. |
| 16:31.17 | Kraps | yeah, no go |
| 16:31.32 | airtonix | UnitFactionGroup("unit") - Returns the faction group id and name of the specified unit. (eg. "Alliance") - string returned is localization-independent (used in filepath) |
| 16:32.28 | airtonix | ~api UnitFactionGroup |
| 16:32.28 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitFactionGroup |
| 16:32.55 | airtonix | does that bot require proper name? or will it search for matching functions? |
| 16:33.07 | airtonix | ~api UnitIs |
| 16:33.08 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitIs |
| 16:33.25 | nevcairiel | purl is rather stupid |
| 16:33.29 | nevcairiel | !api UnitIs |
| 16:33.29 | lua_bot | Found 30 possible matches for 'UnitIs'. Please be more specific |
| 16:33.32 | nevcairiel | more smart ^ |
| 16:33.35 | airtonix | ok |
| 16:33.42 | airtonix | does it pm me the matches? |
| 16:33.49 | nevcairiel | no |
| 16:33.51 | airtonix | or does it only return url for exact matches |
| 16:34.08 | nevcairiel | !api UnitNa |
| 16:34.08 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'UnitNa': UnitName, GetUnitName |
| 16:34.15 | airtonix | nice |
| 16:34.19 | nevcairiel | it just doesnt report 30 results |
| 16:34.20 | nevcairiel | =P |
| 16:34.24 | airtonix | limit is? |
| 16:34.29 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 16:34.31 | nevcairiel | dun care |
| 16:38.58 | dardack | thanks airtonix for the help, gonna use unitisplayer |
| 16:39.06 | dardack | ~api UnitIsPlayer |
| 16:39.07 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitIsPlayer |
| 16:41.38 | Nitra | Any ideas on when to setup chat differently (juggling channels between windows)? My addon currently triggers on joining/leaving party/raid, I am thinking of adding zone, anything more that could be useful to add (maybe PvP flagged)? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13022-ChatProfiles.html |
| 16:42.24 | mikma | pvp zones |
| 16:43.19 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/motorbike4.jpg |
| 16:43.21 | Nitra | Yeah, that'll be included with zones, might want to bunch them together though, for easy setting up |
| 16:44.57 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/us_nuke_testing.jpg |
| 16:46.42 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew, mikma, that first one was hideous. |
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| 16:54.59 | dardack | if I have an if statement within a for loop, if the if returns true i want it to do nothing and just go to the next loop, can i just leave the part after then blank or do i ahve to actually put something there? |
| 16:55.57 | Taroven | You can break the loop if you get what you're looking for. |
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| 16:56.24 | Taroven | for i = 1,5 do if i == 3 break end end <rest of code here> |
| 16:56.27 | dardack | i don't want to break the loop persay i just want it to skip to the next number in the loop |
| 16:56.41 | dardack | yea i want if i==3 then go to 4 i guess |
| 16:58.20 | Taroven | if i == 3 then if i == 3 then i = i+1 else RestOfCode end? |
| 16:58.29 | KarlKFI | Lua doesn't have a continue |
| 16:58.55 | Taroven | err |
| 16:58.59 | Taroven | just woke up |
| 16:59.03 | Taroven | that was totally redundant |
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| 16:59.21 | Taroven | if i == 3 then i = i+1 else RestOfCode end |
| 16:59.40 | dardack | like i have a for statement, the first check is if (function returns true) than i want it to skip rest of code and loop again |
| 17:00.03 | KarlKFI | yeah. what you want is a 'continue' construct which lua doesn't have |
| 17:00.15 | Taroven | A pastey of the function would prolly work better than trying to explain it. |
| 17:00.19 | KarlKFI | you'll have to code it manually with if statements |
| 17:00.50 | KarlKFI | if not method() then do loo stuff end |
| 17:01.08 | KarlKFI | for params do if not method() then do loo stuff end end |
| 17:01.19 | dardack | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/114278 |
| 17:01.20 | KarlKFI | s/loo/loop |
| 17:01.58 | dardack | can i leave the space after the then statement blank or does something have to be there? |
| 17:02.31 | alestane | dardack: If you're going to do that, then negate your condition. |
| 17:02.50 | dardack | so do a negate through the code under the if |
| 17:02.56 | dardack | yea sorry being a bit slow |
| 17:02.59 | alestane | Instead of "if something then else code() end", use "if not something then code() end". |
| 17:03.00 | KarlKFI | if not method() then |
| 17:03.19 | dardack | yea sigh totally just blanked out thanks |
| 17:06.09 | dardack | if i have a local string can i do string:setfont? |
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| 17:08.55 | Taroven | Sure, if string is a fontobject |
| 17:10.40 | dardack | but not just a string variable |
| 17:10.42 | dardack | ok thanks |
| 17:10.52 | Taroven | local frame = CreateFrame("FRAME"); local string = frame:CreateFontString(nil, "OVERLAY"); string:SetFont(foo); String:SetText(bar) |
| 17:11.18 | Taroven | s/String/string |
| 17:12.22 | Taroven | But yeah, regular local strings don't need fonts, and fontobjects don't necessarily need text. If you need to set a new font when setting text or on an event, that's easy to do. |
| 17:12.33 | mikma | cairenn: http://media.fukung.net/images/14320/435d10d6a72d67207fa33c7cd055d34b.gif |
| 17:12.49 | Lopeppeppy | has wicked melty ice creams. |
| 17:13.05 | Lopeppeppy | That's a very mean kitty. |
| 17:13.09 | Taroven | I want that cat for some reason. |
| 17:13.18 | dardack | taroven thanks for invo |
| 17:13.22 | dardack | info |
| 17:13.27 | Taroven | np darkdack |
| 17:14.13 | dardack | how do you print a %, like highestthreatpctstring = string.format('%.2f', htpc) can i just put a %after the f? |
| 17:14.20 | dardack | or si there a special character? |
| 17:14.32 | durcyn | %%, iirc |
| 17:14.39 | dardack | thanks |
| 17:14.41 | Taroven | I can't remember if it's %% or |% |
| 17:14.48 | Taroven | But prolly %% |
| 17:16.24 | Lopeppeppy | IE can go eat rocks. |
| 17:16.58 | Taroven | flaunts his copy of Windows 7 with IE completely uninstalled. |
| 17:17.31 | Seerah | Industrial: which worked? :) |
| 17:19.32 | durcyn | Taroven: if shdocvw.dll still exists, ain't nothing uninstalled |
| 17:20.23 | dardack | yea i doubt it's completely gone, i mean they make small concessions to appease doj/eu but nothing changes |
| 17:20.36 | Industrial | the box thingy |
| 17:20.44 | Taroven | I still like to think I finally got rid of the damn thing, leave me in peace. =P |
| 17:20.45 | Seerah | cool :) |
| 17:21.05 | dardack | heh |
| 17:21.35 | Taroven | Yays, runed orb sold. |
| 17:21.37 | jnwhiteh | Anyone here speak Icelandic? |
| 17:21.46 | Taroven | I can has playmoney |
| 17:21.49 | Industrial | noone speaks icelandic |
| 17:21.50 | Industrial | :p |
| 17:22.01 | Industrial | do they even have internets there? |
| 17:22.29 | durcyn | i thought iceland's economy melted and killed them all |
| 17:22.55 | Bruners | thats just want they want you to believe |
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| 17:25.14 | dardack | taroven: did you buy it with conquest? or get it as a drop? |
| 17:26.01 | Taroven | Drop, ML was set to epic and it happened to be my loot turn. |
| 17:26.04 | Taroven | <3 pugs |
| 17:26.15 | dardack | damn |
| 17:26.19 | dardack | we usually set for rare |
| 17:30.59 | airtonix | anyone know of a linux command that i can use to format text into coloumns for output in the terminal using tabs? |
| 17:43.04 | durcyn | you could fudget it with sed, tr, or awk |
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| 17:48.14 | durcyn | apparently the word 'fudge' is hard to spell |
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| 18:00.41 | Fisker- | slaps durcyn around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:00.41 | NightHawkTheSane | http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/05/15/interview-with-a-stick-of-butter/ |
| 18:00.44 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ epic |
| 18:01.15 | Lunessa | Work: Do not want. |
| 18:01.46 | alestane | "Once, I thought I wanted a career. |
| 18:01.57 | alestane | "Eventually, I realized I just wanted paychecks." |
| 18:02.29 | alestane | Although I think the original button said "job", not "career", which changes the intention somewhat. |
| 18:02.38 | Lopeppeppy | Work, do not want. |
| 18:04.11 | Lunessa | alestane: Right. I want the money. I don't mind the work, I just don't want to be here this afternoon. |
| 18:04.39 | alestane | Where would you be if you weren't at work? |
| 18:05.22 | NightHawkTheSane | still asleep, ideally. |
| 18:06.56 | Lopeppeppy | Sitting on the lawn with my catling, enjoying the sunshine. |
| 18:07.49 | Lunessa | alestane: Sleeping, maybe having a pint with friends, maybe seeing a movie, maybe at the park. But most likely, sleeping. |
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| 18:09.58 | k1net1k | ok is there a maximum size for a frame ? |
| 18:10.36 | k1net1k | ok frames use units, not pixels ? |
| 18:12.09 | Kraps | ~77*4 |
| 18:12.10 | purl | 308 |
| 18:12.17 | RockSlice | they use pixels, for a given definition of "pixel" |
| 18:12.35 | Kraps | i fail at counting |
| 18:12.38 | Kraps | ~77*5 |
| 18:12.38 | purl | 385 |
| 18:12.43 | RockSlice | (they assume a resolution of 1024x768) |
| 18:12.45 | k1net1k | im using 1280x1024 res. yet i need to make a frame 1504 or so to make it full screen |
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| 18:13.19 | RockSlice | do you have UI scaling turned on? |
| 18:13.29 | k1net1k | ahh, gg thanks |
| 18:14.23 | Kraps | ~640-385 |
| 18:14.24 | purl | 255 |
| 18:14.50 | kneeki | http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/84119-2/Cat_invisible_pet_door.gif <- HAHAHAH |
| 18:15.18 | Lopeppeppy | That's mean! |
| 18:15.29 | kneeki | But fucking hilarious! |
| 18:15.57 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 18:16.00 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed |
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| 18:16.02 | Lopeppeppy | Such a betrayed look. |
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| 18:17.14 | alestane | Now, might have been intended for heat conservation rather than to offend the cat. But that doesn't mean offense didn't take place. |
| 18:18.57 | Cairenn | waves |
| 18:19.04 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi hi Cairenn. |
| 18:19.14 | Cairenn | tacklehugs Lopeppeppy |
| 18:19.23 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, the bestest tacklehugs ev-ar! |
| 18:19.37 | Cairenn | :) |
| 18:19.54 | Lopeppeppy | Do not want to make endless faculty bio pages. *pout* |
| 18:20.07 | Cairenn | blarg |
| 18:20.16 | foxlit | autogenerate them |
| 18:20.20 | durcyn | Amuse yourself by inserting random false statements |
| 18:20.40 | foxlit | bonus points for auto-generating past work summaries on the fly. |
| 18:20.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 18:20.50 | Lopeppeppy | Cannot autogenerate in this system. :P |
| 18:21.08 | Lopeppeppy | But I am amusing myself by altering their bio photographs. |
| 18:21.18 | AbsolutRayne | yawns |
| 18:21.24 | foxlit | write a script! |
| 18:21.51 | Lopeppeppy | No U |
| 18:22.24 | AbsolutRayne | Im in like |
| 18:22.30 | AbsolutRayne | full nerd-out mode atm |
| 18:22.42 | Lopeppeppy | ? |
| 18:23.03 | AbsolutRayne | Ive been marathoning Zeta Gundam :P |
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| 18:23.23 | AbsolutRayne | Even the Intro is awesome. |
| 18:23.32 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. |
| 18:24.15 | dardack | can someone look at: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/114284 and tell me why nothing happens when i mouse over a target? |
| 18:24.58 | foxlit | MouseOverThreat:RegisterEvent('UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT', UpdateTooltip) |
| 18:25.20 | dardack | what'd i do wrong? |
| 18:25.28 | foxlit | Do you know what you did? |
| 18:25.40 | Fisker- | huggletackles Lopeppeppy |
| 18:25.47 | foxlit | (Or, rather, what do you think that line does?) |
| 18:25.50 | dardack | i regsiter the mouseover function to callUpdateTooltip |
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| 18:26.02 | alestane | dardack: That is not in fact what happens. |
| 18:26.08 | dardack | oh |
| 18:26.21 | Lopeppeppy | Hi, Fisker, what has you in a good mood. |
| 18:26.36 | dardack | well than i don't know |
| 18:26.51 | alestane | It needs to be broken out into two functions: MouseOverThreat:RegisterEvent('UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT') and MouseOverThreat:SetScript('OnEvent', UpdateTooltip) |
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| 18:27.01 | dardack | ahh |
| 18:27.06 | dardack | i was gonna put the setscript in there |
| 18:27.11 | dardack | but thought you could do it in 1 line |
| 18:27.12 | foxlit | Assuming that's a frame |
| 18:27.21 | AbsolutRayne | Is Youtube being ungodly slow? |
| 18:27.26 | dardack | oh i gotta create a frame? |
| 18:27.41 | alestane | Also, it's probably not even compiling right now, since "if ~(UnitAffectingCombat('player')) then return end" isn't valid Lua. |
| 18:28.38 | dardack | oh i thought nil would return false and 1 true |
| 18:28.49 | alestane | That should be "if not UnitAffectingCombat('player') then return end" |
| 18:29.05 | alestane | dardack: You are correct in that regard. But ~ isn't an operator in Lua. |
| 18:29.21 | dardack | oh it's not like ~= i thoiught ~ was not |
| 18:29.22 | dardack | ok |
| 18:29.43 | alestane | ~= is "not equal" but ~ isn't generically "not". |
| 18:29.44 | purl | alestane: I think you lost me on that one |
| 18:29.56 | krka | hah |
| 18:30.13 | krka | ~ is ~ not |
| 18:31.51 | dardack | ok, so can i just create a frame: MouseOverThreat = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, UIParent) ? |
| 18:32.21 | alestane | Sure. |
| 18:33.54 | dardack | ok still no printing of test, can you look at updated http://wowuidev.pastey.net/114285 not exactly sure what i'm missing |
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| 18:36.22 | kneeki | dardack, try: CreateFrame("Frame", "MouseOverThreat", UIParent) |
| 18:36.23 | kneeki | ? |
| 18:37.23 | dardack | nothing, ChatFrame1:AddMessage("test") should print test in my first chatframe when i mouse over a mob yes? |
| 18:38.01 | kneeki | dardack, use print('test') |
| 18:38.08 | dardack | ok |
| 18:38.32 | kneeki | Also, why have UpdateTooltip function? Why not just include it in the OnUpdate script? |
| 18:39.10 | dardack | isn't the updatetooltip function the onupdate script? |
| 18:39.15 | kneeki | dardack, try: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/114286 |
| 18:39.43 | dardack | oh i see what your saying |
| 18:40.45 | dardack | nothing happens still |
| 18:41.30 | kneeki | dardack, herm... Try: SetScript('OnUpdate', function(self, elapsed) |
| 18:41.38 | alestane | dardack: Do you have Lua errors turned on in your interface? |
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| 18:41.53 | dardack | alestane i only have this mod enabled, how do i do that? |
| 18:42.24 | ArrowmasterClass | interface options -> help |
| 18:42.35 | alestane | Open your game menu (Esc), choose Interface Options, click the Help section, there should be a checkbox "Display Lua Errors". |
| 18:43.01 | dardack | thanks |
| 18:43.09 | dardack | forgot about that yea an error on line 2 checking now |
| 18:43.55 | dardack | oh sigh i had more ~ as nots |
| 18:44.12 | dardack | awesome |
| 18:44.20 | dardack | now i gotta con someone to gruop up with |
| 18:44.33 | kneeki | What was the problem? |
| 18:46.02 | dardack | i was using ~ as not |
| 18:46.09 | dardack | didn't realize i had done it a few times |
| 18:47.47 | dardack | ok that updates crazyness and adds a gazillion lines to the tooltip instead of just 1 |
| 18:50.51 | dardack | is there a way to check that the mouseover unit hasn't changed? |
| 18:51.33 | durcyn | UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT |
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| 18:51.44 | AbsolutRayne | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW93YmjA1HY NSFW, but bloody hysterical |
| 18:52.58 | dardack | durcyn: i have that registered, but if i keep my mouse over the same unit it's continuely fired, a ton of lines get added to the tooltip |
| 18:53.23 | durcyn | so only do stuff when it changes. |
| 18:53.54 | dardack | that's what i'm asking how can you tell if it changes? |
| 18:54.05 | nevcairiel | compare the GUIDs imho |
| 18:54.08 | durcyn | keep a variable in the file scope |
| 18:55.01 | dardack | i'm sorry what is GUID? |
| 18:55.04 | ArrowmasterClass | you shouldnt be adding to the tooltip on UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT then |
| 18:55.23 | ArrowmasterClass | use the OnTooltipSetUnit widget handler |
| 18:55.52 | dardack | ~OnTooltipSetUnit |
| 18:56.01 | dardack | ~api OnTooltipSetUnit |
| 18:56.02 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_OnTooltipSetUnit |
| 18:56.30 | dardack | well tha'ts not helpful, arrow, what does that do? |
| 18:58.16 | ArrowmasterClass | !api OnTooltipSetUnit |
| 18:58.17 | lua_bot | OnTooltipSetUnit: Fires in response to a corresponding SetUnit call. Available for GameTooltip (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/scripts/OnTooltipSetUnit) |
| 19:02.54 | ArrowmasterClass | ahaha my schools dns server allows domain zone transfers |
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| 19:27.17 | dardack | anyone know if UnitDetailedThreatSituation the variable returned isTanking, does it return 1 if your the only player in the mobs threat list/ |
| 19:28.48 | nevcairiel | well if you are, isnt it fair to assume that you're actually holding its aggro, and are in fact tanking? |
| 19:29.24 | nevcairiel | unless the mob doesnt have threat like usual, which makes the whole excercise kinda mood |
| 19:29.42 | dardack | true but it seems to return nil if i'm the only player in the threat list |
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| 19:35.50 | Fisker- | i threaten you with slavery and death |
| 19:36.24 | Lopeppeppy | Holp, holp. |
| 19:36.42 | Fisker- | holp? |
| 19:37.04 | Lopeppeppy | You threatened us. |
| 19:37.13 | Lopeppeppy | Holp is a Winnie the Pooh thing. |
| 19:37.29 | Fisker- | awesome |
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| 19:42.07 | dardack | is there a call I can make to see if a unit has a target? |
| 19:42.28 | kneeki | TargetExists() ? |
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| 19:42.37 | kneeki | !api UnitHasTarget() |
| 19:42.37 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'UnitHasTarget()'. |
| 19:42.43 | kneeki | hmm |
| 19:43.16 | zenzelezz | UnitExists("<someunit>target") ? |
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| 19:43.37 | kneeki | !api UnitExists() |
| 19:43.38 | lua_bot | UnitExists: Returns whether or not a given unit exists (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitExists) |
| 19:43.41 | kneeki | There we go |
| 19:43.52 | kneeki | I was right the first time, only kind of |
| 19:43.53 | Osstia | windows search blows |
| 19:44.02 | Osstia | needs to go get win32 gnu tools |
| 19:44.26 | dardack | so do you call UnitExists('mouseover'..target)? |
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| 19:44.44 | zenzelezz | no |
| 19:44.49 | zenzelezz | "mouseovertarget" |
| 19:45.01 | dardack | oh didn't know that was a proper unitid, thanks |
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| 19:48.07 | NightHawkTheSane | http://notalwaysright.com/pepperoni-pizza-with-a-side-of-pointless-paranoia/1963 |
| 19:48.16 | NightHawkTheSane | (he also wants his two dollars) |
| 19:48.28 | durcyn | TWO DOLLARS |
| 19:48.43 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/05/15/funny-pictures-pigeons-would-have-tasers/ |
| 19:49.24 | Lopeppeppy | rofflemao |
| 19:49.41 | NightHawkTheSane | heh |
| 19:50.09 | Lopeppeppy | I feel like I should be watching Oxhorn now. |
| 19:50.45 | Fisker- | lol'd hardcore NightHawkTheSane |
| 19:50.46 | Fisker- | LOLD |
| 19:53.28 | Dashkal | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/05/15/funny-pictures-video-ninja-kitteh-jump/ |
| 19:54.33 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/miracle-on-24th-street/1962 i'm not good at math but still... |
| 19:59.52 | AckisWork | ~seen shirik |
| 19:59.56 | purl | shirik <n=Shirik@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 9h 31m 32s ago, saying: 'Problem with first class: You board first >.>'. |
| 20:00.26 | AckisWork | ah he's going flying |
| 20:00.52 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, off to wash himself up, IIRC |
| 20:00.59 | NightHawkTheSane | why is that a problem? |
| 20:01.03 | Lopeppeppy | ~seen Lopeppeppy |
| 20:01.04 | purl | lopeppeppy is currently on #wowuidev (7h 23m 23s). Has said a total of 54 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Lopeppeppy'. |
| 20:01.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: that's so meta. |
| 20:01.19 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 20:01.38 | Fisker- | he won't make my balls bigger |
| 20:01.52 | Lopeppeppy | That's between you and the devil, Fisker-, Shirik can't help you. |
| 20:01.53 | AckisWork | what balls? |
| 20:01.54 | airtonix | massive |
| 20:01.56 | Fisker- | my balls |
| 20:01.56 | NightHawkTheSane | you'd need some first. |
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| 20:10.54 | Lopeppeppy | has a boredom. |
| 20:11.59 | Fisker- | help me make my balls bigger then |
| 20:12.43 | Corrodias | i bet they'd do that if they're bruised |
| 20:12.51 | Corrodias | offers a mallet. |
| 20:13.10 | Kirov | Balls:SetWidth(1000) |
| 20:14.11 | Thunder_Child | need scale more than just width |
| 20:14.25 | Lunessa | has a boredom too. |
| 20:15.25 | Kirov | SetGirth(1000) |
| 20:15.32 | zenzelezz | hands Lopeppeppy a board |
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| 20:16.04 | zenzelezz | oops |
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| 20:18.29 | dardack | before i call GameTooltip:AddDoubleLine, is there a way to clear th etooltip? |
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| 20:20.58 | Kore_ | Hello, does anybody here use eclipse in mac os x to code in lua? |
| 20:24.47 | Kaso | dardack, GameTooltip:ClearLines() ? |
| 20:25.17 | dardack | i tried that and it's claiming attempt to index global GameToolTip a nil value |
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| 20:25.40 | zenzelezz | case sensitivity |
| 20:25.44 | zenzelezz | Tooltip, not ToolTip |
| 20:26.04 | Arrowmaster | you probably dont want to clear it though since that will remove everything |
| 20:26.26 | dardack | oh |
| 20:26.43 | dardack | trying that |
| 20:26.49 | Jelly_ | Rawr!! |
| 20:27.43 | dardack | ok yea don't want to clear it arrow |
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| 20:28.12 | Arrowmaster | are you still trying to add something to the tooltip when you mouseover a unit? |
| 20:28.20 | dardack | arrow i didn't understand the onTooltipSetUnit you were talking about earlier |
| 20:28.26 | dardack | yea if i compare GUID's |
| 20:28.30 | dardack | it stops the massive lines |
| 20:28.41 | Arrowmaster | OnTooltipSetUnit is still better |
| 20:28.43 | dardack | but if you leave the target and mouseover same one the text i put ther ei sgone |
| 20:28.57 | dardack | yea i couldn't figure out how to implement it |
| 20:30.30 | Arrowmaster | local orig_func = GameTooltip:GetScript("OnTooltipSetUnit"); GameTooltip:SetScript("OnTooltipSetUnit", function(...) DO STUFF HERE; if orig_func then return orig_func(...) end) |
| 20:31.45 | Arrowmaster | err should be two end's there |
| 20:31.51 | dardack | ok |
| 20:32.09 | dardack | and is teh DO STUFF HERE for adding lines to the tooltip or the UPDATEMOUSEOVER event? |
| 20:32.16 | durcyn | forget the event. |
| 20:32.43 | Arrowmaster | im going back to playing battlefield bad company |
| 20:33.28 | dardack | so don't register the event at all? |
| 20:34.04 | durcyn | it's not necessary if you're going to hook SetUnit |
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| 20:34.15 | dardack | ok |
| 20:34.32 | Kyahx | anyone have tips for applying a texture to a verticle status bar? |
| 20:35.38 | AckisWork | yay i get y degree today! :D :D :D |
| 20:35.55 | AckisWork | masters in debating! |
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| 20:36.14 | durcyn | rubs his magic wand on AckisWork |
| 20:36.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ... get a room. :P |
| 20:37.01 | AckisWork | lol |
| 20:41.11 | dardack | ok i used the hook SetUnit but it's not working really not sure what to look for |
| 20:41.57 | dardack | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/114294 |
| 20:45.26 | dardack | Kdoh my party member afk'd out |
| 20:45.30 | dardack | it works thanks all |
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| 21:06.51 | kneeki | !api SetSpell() |
| 21:06.51 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'SetSpell()': OnTooltipSetSpell, GameTooltip:SetSpell |
| 21:07.02 | kneeki | !api GameTooltip:SetSpell |
| 21:07.02 | lua_bot | GameTooltip:SetSpell: Loads the tooltip with information about a spell in the player (or pet's) spellbook. (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/GameTooltip/SetSpell) |
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| 21:09.12 | Lunessa | ... I don't know why I even bother with forums on a Friday. |
| 21:10.31 | NightHawkTheSane | s/on a Friday.// |
| 21:14.21 | AckisWork | ban everyone!!!! |
| 21:16.25 | Osstia | is the information from a .toc file read every time the UI is reloaded? |
| 21:16.41 | Kirov | No |
| 21:17.00 | Osstia | ahh, when is that read? |
| 21:17.13 | Kirov | When the game starts. |
| 21:17.22 | Osstia | ty |
| 21:23.32 | foxlit | Problem: mouse refuses to charge. |
| 21:23.40 | foxlit | Internet solution: "ROTATE THE CHARGER IN YOUR WALL SOCKET!!" |
| 21:24.00 | AckisWork | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 21:24.09 | foxlit | Reasoning: "The charger has no earth pin and hence does not force the correct +/- orientation in the power socket." |
| 21:24.19 | kd3 | erm |
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| 21:24.53 | foxlit | erm indeed. |
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| 21:32.05 | kd3 | no UI changes this PTR build. so no email going out |
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| 21:33.49 | haste | What HC gives the most rep? |
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| 21:38.25 | kneeki | Hmm |
| 21:38.38 | kneeki | I need a person who is good at photoshop to partner up with |
| 21:38.44 | kneeki | Cus I fail horribly |
| 21:39.52 | Kraps | slightly nsfw but pretty cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyYaPWasos |
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| 21:48.07 | NeoTron | so - "earth pin"? is that Brittish English? |
| 21:48.33 | foxlit | way awesome. |
| 21:48.35 | NeoTron | it's a literal translation of the Swedish name but not what I'm used to in the US (ground) |
| 21:50.15 | theorbtwo | Yes, it's British English. |
| 21:50.31 | theorbtwo | "Earth" is British for 0V; "Ground" is American. |
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| 21:51.10 | NeoTron | curious difference |
| 21:51.13 | theorbtwo | It is somewhat odd that the Britishism is "pin" when it's really big and not round, but that's the British for you. |
| 21:51.26 | theorbtwo | (It used to be round and even bigger.) |
| 21:51.58 | NeoTron | I recall a fun anecdote from my father |
| 21:52.32 | NeoTron | on how in the UK they build water pipes on the outside of the houses since it's easier to fix them when they freeze |
| 21:53.15 | theorbtwo | grins. |
| 21:58.37 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: at least they don't build their houses out of wood ;p |
| 22:00.00 | sysrage | wow.. just when i thought curse couldn't get any more farking retarded with their client. first they kill auto updates, now i can't even click update all without paying? |
| 22:00.03 | sysrage | assholes |
| 22:00.44 | sysrage | and yes i know some of them are in here. hope you saw that |
| 22:01.05 | nevcairiel | I'm sure they giggle already how they made your day miserable now |
| 22:01.28 | sysrage | ya i'm sure they don't care or even laugh. |
| 22:01.32 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: I read that as "their horses out of wood" and was thinking Trojan Horse |
| 22:01.47 | nevcairiel | Like you don't care how much money it costs to host all those files |
| 22:01.49 | nevcairiel | but shrug |
| 22:01.50 | nevcairiel | so is life |
| 22:02.25 | Gnarfoz | auto-updates/update-all went away at exactly the same point in time, btw |
| 22:02.31 | NeoTron | sysrage: so I understand it's a limitation but how many addons do you update in a day, really? |
| 22:02.35 | Gnarfoz | auto update is pointless anyway |
| 22:02.57 | Gnarfoz | should probably not set all addons to "alpha" :p |
| 22:03.10 | Gnarfoz | that reduces the number of available updates per day/week whatever by like 90% |
| 22:03.12 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:03.26 | foxlit | Meh |
| 22:03.37 | foxlit | Write a program that'd run the Curse client in a separate desktop |
| 22:03.46 | foxlit | Then click the update buttons one at a time for you. |
| 22:03.50 | foxlit | Problem solved. |
| 22:04.46 | Gnarfoz | "in a separate desktop" however is not that easily done ;D |
| 22:05.13 | nevcairiel | But like gnarfoz said, if you use "release" quality addons, you will like update one addon a day |
| 22:05.16 | nevcairiel | even with a big install base |
| 22:05.36 | AbsolutRayne | I wish my kitty had a friend to play with :( |
| 22:06.10 | foxlit | okay, puzzle time |
| 22:06.32 | foxlit | or perhaps not |
| 22:06.44 | nevcairiel | is puzzled now |
| 22:06.51 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 22:07.00 | foxlit | was wondering why UIPanelButtonTemplate-derived buttons handled resizing worse than UIPanelButtonTemplate2-derived buttons. |
| 22:07.13 | nevcairiel | because they are like one big texture <.< |
| 22:07.43 | nevcairiel | the 2 is at least 3 textures already |
| 22:07.50 | nevcairiel | still looks like crap if you resize it alot |
| 22:08.33 | nevcairiel | especially vertically |
| 22:11.30 | NeoTron | so women of the channel - top entry here - looks tempting? http://www.engrish.com/page/3/ |
| 22:11.33 | NeoTron | when stinky especially |
| 22:12.23 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: even at alpha with disembedded libs, I don't update very much each day (unique addons updated especially since it auto-updates when I sleep or work) |
| 22:15.34 | theorbtwo | ...except just after a patch that requires authors to update the API version in the TOC. |
| 22:16.45 | Kraps | so the tourney is dependent on your stats? |
| 22:17.23 | Kraps | which is why i suck bigtime? |
| 22:17.37 | NightHawkTheSane | i thought that wasn't being implemented until 3.1.2? |
| 22:19.24 | nevcairiel | they are going to do that? |
| 22:19.30 | nevcairiel | how easy is it going to be now? :P |
| 22:19.35 | NightHawkTheSane | i thought i read they were, but i could be mistaken |
| 22:19.55 | nevcairiel | I liked it for not being, everyone the same etc =p |
| 22:20.02 | nevcairiel | not that i care, i have ulduar gear |
| 22:20.21 | NightHawkTheSane | its not as if it was hard in the first place |
| 22:20.39 | nevcairiel | its just boring |
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| 22:20.47 | nevcairiel | but i want teh vanity pets |
| 22:20.53 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 22:21.11 | nevcairiel | also i was on vacation, and i'm not done with all 5 factions yet |
| 22:21.21 | Gnarfoz | theorbtwo: there has been 2 patches in the last 5 years that *required* TOC updating. 2.0 and 3.0 |
| 22:21.29 | nevcairiel | 3.0 didnt require, fwiw |
| 22:21.39 | Gnarfoz | yeah, you're right |
| 22:21.43 | Gnarfoz | was just 2.0 |
| 22:21.50 | nevcairiel | I wish it had, though. |
| 22:21.54 | Gnarfoz | for everything else, the checkbox works |
| 22:21.55 | nevcairiel | A clean break is always nice |
| 22:22.01 | theorbtwo | Gnarfoz: Well, 3.1 didn't *require* toc updating, but most authors did in fairly short order anyway. |
| 22:22.15 | Gnarfoz | which is in no way an argument |
| 22:22.16 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 22:22.17 | NightHawkTheSane | i haven't yet. but none of my mods actually broke, so *shrug* |
| 22:22.27 | nevcairiel | I would never push a new release version just to update the interface version |
| 22:22.37 | nevcairiel | i just fix it locally and push it with the next actual change |
| 22:23.22 | theorbtwo | I did notice my rate of updating modules was very high just after 3.1, and much slower after that. |
| 22:23.36 | NightHawkTheSane | i probably would, but only as a means of saying 'i've tested it with this interface version and it works' |
| 22:23.47 | Gnarfoz | well, of course, but not necessarily because of a silly field in the .toc ;) |
| 22:23.48 | theorbtwo | ...I think that's both because authors changed things to work with 3.1, and because they just updated the version number. |
| 22:24.21 | foxlit | More fundamentally, you need to be able to flag addons as compatible with multiple versions |
| 22:24.24 | Gnarfoz | now... to exmine more why prat does stuff differently :\ |
| 22:24.41 | theorbtwo | foxlit: Does it matter that much? |
| 22:24.53 | theorbtwo | The *servers* are only compatable with one version. |
| 22:24.55 | foxlit | It'd be nice. |
| 22:25.02 | Gnarfoz | there's different servers around, though, theorbtwo |
| 22:25.14 | Gnarfoz | china still doesn't have wotlk, last I checked |
| 22:25.16 | Grum | only chinese which are still at 2.4 right? |
| 22:25.27 | theorbtwo | Oh, forgot about the Chinese angle. |
| 22:25.29 | nevcairiel | china is 3.0, but not wotlk |
| 22:25.39 | Gnarfoz | that must so suck :\ |
| 22:25.43 | Grum | why? |
| 22:26.26 | nevcairiel | apparently the whole concept of death knights is not fitting into their culture, among other things |
| 22:26.29 | Gnarfoz | why? because it's been out for half a year :\ |
| 22:26.39 | Gnarfoz | or did you want to know why they don't have it yet |
| 22:26.41 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 22:26.57 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: i think the whole undead nature of wotlk doesn't quite fit :P |
| 22:27.12 | nevcairiel | meh we've had big undead parts before |
| 22:27.32 | nevcairiel | they already have skeletons with flesh |
| 22:27.36 | theorbtwo | Other then that, there's PTR and the kind that breaks your user agreement, and those guys can hit the "load out-of-date" button... |
| 22:27.46 | theorbtwo | nevcairiel: But the undead are almost always bad guys. |
| 22:28.10 | nevcairiel | i don't have undead friends now, either. |
| 22:28.14 | Gnarfoz | that's absolutely not relevant, theorbtwo |
| 22:28.28 | foxlit | My argument is that of laziness, really. |
| 22:28.41 | Gnarfoz | laziness by whom? |
| 22:28.44 | foxlit | Me. |
| 22:28.45 | nevcairiel | their problem isnt with undeads being on your side or anything, their forsakens also don't have exposed joints |
| 22:28.47 | Gnarfoz | ok? ;P |
| 22:28.54 | foxlit | I don't want to release a .toc update out of release cycle. |
| 22:29.02 | nevcairiel | when a player dies, he leaves a small tombstone instead of a skeleton |
| 22:29.09 | Gnarfoz | yeah, bones = remains of deceased people, those are 'sacred' or whatever |
| 22:29.23 | theorbtwo | Huh. |
| 22:29.24 | theorbtwo | OK. |
| 22:29.29 | Gnarfoz | so all skeletons are ghouls (i.e. skeletons + flesh) |
| 22:29.57 | nevcairiel | that must look so sucky on the really giant skeletons in icecrown |
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| 22:30.05 | nevcairiel | but no-one would know :D |
| 22:30.06 | Grum | haha indeed :D |
| 22:30.08 | theorbtwo | I'm surprised they haven't just made a few tweaked models for WotLK, then. |
| 22:30.24 | nevcairiel | they also have beef with the whole death knight class |
| 22:30.35 | nevcairiel | there have been rumors of it coming out over there without DKs |
| 22:30.53 | nevcairiel | but nothing ever got solid, yet |
| 22:31.12 | theorbtwo | Ah. That'd probably be a big problem. |
| 22:31.25 | nevcairiel | additionally blizzard just changed their partner for china |
| 22:31.30 | nevcairiel | they don't distribute it themself there |
| 22:31.35 | theorbtwo | Means every quest line that mentions them doesn't just have to be translated, it has to be tweaked a lot. |
| 22:31.36 | nevcairiel | they do through some other company |
| 22:31.50 | theorbtwo | I haven't actually got WotLK myself, but I'm betting that's a lot. |
| 22:31.53 | Gnarfoz | I guess they changed it because of all this "still not released" thing |
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| 22:33.34 | nevcairiel | but on the original topic, tbh i wouldn't keep my addon compatible with a previous version just because china is still on there, they can learn to download versions that work for them =P |
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| 22:40.09 | foxlit | China has their own distribution networks anyway |
| 22:41.32 | foxlit | boooo |
| 22:41.44 | foxlit | UIPanelButtonTemplate texturing is just bad for disabled buttons |
| 22:42.09 | foxlit | I presume the normal version has separate corner textures, while the disabled version is just one stretched texture. |
| 22:44.31 | Grum | no both are strethed |
| 22:45.13 | foxlit | so why does one look worse than the other? |
| 22:45.26 | Grum | dunno :( |
| 22:45.55 | foxlit | It is, of course, because I'm actually talking about UIPanelButtonTemplate2 |
| 22:55.15 | mikma | star trek rocked really hard |
| 22:56.35 | Kirov | Worst Star Trek Evar. |
| 22:56.44 | Jamash | s/Worst/Best/ |
| 22:56.48 | Kirov | And by worst I mean most enjoyable. |
| 22:56.52 | NeoTron | they could just name the Death Knights Dark Knights (TM) and make them not undead :P |
| 22:57.17 | Jamash | I am the dark night... elf. |
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| 23:31.23 | Kyahx | How do I flip a texture horizontally |
| 23:31.40 | Kirov | SetTexCoord(1,0,0,1) |
| 23:31.45 | Kyahx | thanks |
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| 23:46.58 | ScytheBlade1 | This grill needs to hurry up and cook my pork chops |
| 23:51.13 | kd3 | grr... pop-up thunderstorms |
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| 23:51.21 | kd3 | it needs to either rain here or stop thundering incessantly |
| 23:51.56 | Kore_ | from iowa, kd3? |
| 23:52.05 | kd3 | I'm west of atlanta |
| 23:52.12 | Kore_ | oh :/ |
| 23:53.11 | Ktron | anyone know if the premium version of Curse Client can we used on multiple machines? say, my laptop and desktop? |
| 23:53.35 | kd3 | it's based on your login info, shouldn't matter how many computers you have |
| 23:53.39 | foxlit | It's not the client that's premium |
| 23:53.54 | Ktron | awesome |
| 23:55.34 | Ktron | Now it just needs to let you 'sync' curse clients on multiple machines :) |
| 23:56.10 | kd3 | just set up a share and copy your interface folders around across the network? |
| 23:56.43 | Ktron | It'd just be slick if it 'saved' the addons you used to the account |
| 23:56.57 | foxlit | and your SVs, too |
| 23:57.20 | Ktron | so you could reinstall quickly after a wipe, or whenever I tweaked my addons (yeah SVs too) on my desktop, they'd get synced to my laptop when my laptop comes online |
