| 00:01.21 | Kraftman | is the animation system supposed to not effect the children of an object? |
| 00:02.29 | sylvanaar | didn't you used to be able to color the gmotd? |
| 00:02.33 | foxlit | wait, people actually use it? |
| 00:02.42 | Kraftman | trying to :P |
| 00:02.46 | kd3 | we used to be able to break the gmotd rather handily |
| 00:02.56 | kd3 | gigantic textures and such |
| 00:03.01 | sylvanaar | no more? |
| 00:03.14 | Kirov_ | |n |
| 00:03.17 | foxlit | it truncates on pipes now, I think |
| 00:03.27 | sylvanaar | even \126 |
| 00:03.36 | sylvanaar | er 124 |
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| 00:03.51 | sylvanaar | looks |
| 00:05.30 | NightHawkTheSane | sighs and thinks he's going to have to reinstall wow. |
| 00:05.43 | Kirov_ | ? |
| 00:06.23 | NightHawkTheSane | It appears to be hanging on launch. Black screen comes up, I get a swirling beach ball.. and thats it.. |
| 00:06.34 | kd3 | check your logs folder? |
| 00:07.25 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, nothing |
| 00:07.35 | kd3 | oh wow. msdn took a dive? |
| 00:07.44 | kd3 | shocked that that's still possible |
| 00:08.29 | Hjalte_ | Playing around with Windows 7 in virtualbox makes me want to format my computer and use it for real :\ |
| 00:08.41 | netcurse | i m doing so in a bit |
| 00:09.11 | KarlKFI | Note: you wont be able to update from RC win 7 to retail win 7 |
| 00:09.18 | KarlKFI | you'll have to reformat |
| 00:09.22 | netcurse | that's ok |
| 00:09.26 | netcurse | win 7 install takes 15 mins |
| 00:09.28 | Hjalte_ | I wonder if Windows 7 x64 will be better or worse with supporting old device drivers than my Windows XP x64 which is pretty horrible. |
| 00:09.50 | Hjalte_ | KarlKFI: Oh, really? Sucks. |
| 00:09.52 | KarlKFI | also note: you can install win 7 from a thumb drive super fast |
| 00:10.08 | Kraftman | nice |
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| 00:10.35 | Hjalte_ | What is this RTM version which will be out later? |
| 00:11.52 | Kraftman | Could anyone help me with the animation system plox? (I have cookies) |
| 00:12.07 | foxlit | I'm afraid that's going to require... |
| 00:12.10 | foxlit | ... Cake. |
| 00:12.22 | foxlit | Cookies, you see, are not enough. |
| 00:12.51 | Kraftman | avoids talking about the cakes' arguable existance. |
| 00:13.14 | Hjalte_ | foxlit: We think alike. |
| 00:13.35 | Kraftman | this probably describes my problem better than i can: http://www.wegame.com/watch/Swish_Problem/ |
| 00:14.37 | Kraftman | I'm not sure if i need to somehow add the children into the animation group to make them animate properly. |
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| 00:15.14 | Kraftman | setting the alpha of the FriendsFrame manually works fine |
| 00:19.06 | kd3 | hokay. finally got the PTR patched |
| 00:19.09 | kd3 | now for the UI diffs |
| 00:19.15 | alestane | PTR again? |
| 00:19.19 | kd3 | 3.1.2 |
| 00:21.15 | alestane | Any announcements yet about the intended changes? |
| 00:21.51 | kd3 | other than the equipment manager? |
| 00:22.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ohh, that's working? |
| 00:22.32 | kd3 | QA wants focused testing on it |
| 00:23.41 | kd3 | emails awaaaaay |
| 00:28.44 | Jamash | is there a way to patch from the 3.1.0 ptr to the 3.1.2 ptr? |
| 00:28.52 | kd3 | get the 991MB downloader |
| 00:28.58 | Jamash | :( |
| 00:29.00 | kd3 | that's the only option we've got |
| 00:29.07 | kd3 | which is full of pain and fail |
| 00:29.53 | Jamash | so basically to test a PTR that _does not include Ulduar_ I have to download all of Ulduar again? |
| 00:30.12 | kd3 | yup. you're going from 3.0.1 to 3.1.2. |
| 00:30.13 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: wait, the _downloader_ is nearly a gig? |
| 00:30.15 | theorbtwo | Er, you can't copy your running 3.1.1a game and then patch that to the 3.1.2 PTR? |
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| 00:30.23 | kd3 | no |
| 00:30.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Or the patch? |
| 00:30.26 | kd3 | the patch |
| 00:30.29 | ScytheBlade1 | oh okay |
| 00:30.33 | ScytheBlade1 | You had me scared for a sec |
| 00:30.35 | kd3 | theorbtwo, no. |
| 00:30.56 | Jamash | blaaaargh |
| 00:31.03 | kd3 | the only method blizz has provided us is the 991MB patch |
| 00:31.03 | kd3 | http://us.version.worldofwarcraft.com/update/PatchSequenceFile.txt |
| 00:31.14 | kd3 | check the WoWT bit |
| 00:35.57 | Zhinjio | foxlit: thanks for OPie. wonderful stuff |
| 00:36.06 | foxlit | :) |
| 00:36.43 | Zhinjio | it replaced like... at least 3 other addons for me *grin* |
| 00:37.16 | Zhinjio | Torhal: did you test that latest build or shall I? |
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| 00:44.30 | KarlKFI | ~lazy |
| 00:44.31 | purl | Hard work may pay off later, but LAZINESS pays off now! Work hard at hardly working! |
| 00:46.26 | Torhal | Zhinjio: DIdn't test, I have no idea what I had in my inventory that would set it off. No ores, for sure. Primal mana, but I'm not sure if that's mined. |
| 00:46.34 | Torhal | But if it's the same fix, it should just work. |
| 00:46.44 | Torhal | The code was identical. |
| 00:47.23 | Zhinjio | k |
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| 01:00.34 | Ycarene | Can a person be compelled in a court of law to reveal their voting choices? |
| 01:01.38 | Thunder_Child | maybe, i dont think the 5th amendment applies here |
| 01:02.10 | alestane | It would be hard to find an argument as to why it was necessary, I think. |
| 01:02.34 | Thunder_Child | if you are being asked questions for jury duty maybe |
| 01:04.10 | Arrowmaster | i think they would ask you your political affiliation and not who you voted for in the last ellection |
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| 01:04.53 | foxlit | You could, of course, lie. |
| 01:05.19 | foxlit | And unless there's something *seriously* wrong with your electoral system, no one would be the wiser |
| 01:05.28 | Kraps | dk tank are the trickiest to heal /discuss |
| 01:05.43 | theorbtwo | Under US law? No, you most certianly cannot be. |
| 01:06.05 | foxlit | Could use an addon that'd tell you when the tank's "oh @#$@#" cooldowns are about to expire. |
| 01:06.10 | Ycarene | Isn't it state by state? |
| 01:06.28 | theorbtwo | Er, possibly? |
| 01:06.34 | Kraps | foxlit: e.g.? |
| 01:06.44 | Ycarene | Theorbtwo - What US law though? |
| 01:06.47 | theorbtwo | I'm looking for a decent answer now, but I should imagine that to be true in every state. |
| 01:06.53 | foxlit | "Icebound Fortitude runs out in 3 seconds. Heal now or watch him die" |
| 01:07.38 | foxlit | But, to be honest, my heroic runs lately have been mostly handled by tossing rejuv at the start of a trashpack, and possibly a regrowth half way through |
| 01:07.44 | Kraps | foxlit: what i meant was, is there such an addon? |
| 01:07.50 | foxlit | Dunno. |
| 01:08.16 | Kraps | druids are op healers obviously |
| 01:08.37 | foxlit | things tend to get nasty if threat or AoE starts flying around |
| 01:08.53 | foxlit | As long as people aren't morons, they'll live. |
| 01:09.23 | foxlit | But if they are morons, their survival seems to depend more on their luck than any sort of deterministic function of what I do |
| 01:09.35 | Kraps | wish i had CoH in disc /sigh |
| 01:10.37 | foxlit | "Any circuit design must contain at least one part which is obsolete, two parts which are unobtainable, and three parts which are still under development." -- /. |
| 01:10.50 | Kraps | orly |
| 01:10.58 | Duman | boo |
| 01:11.02 | Duman | I miss out on PvP w/ the devs |
| 01:13.01 | Kraps | my druid is 17 /moan |
| 01:15.11 | bleeter | download EU PTR wut? |
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| 01:16.41 | straterra | Do any of you have a G15 keyboard? It seems I get nothing on my display when playing with the latest WoW patches |
| 01:16.46 | Legorol | pvp with the devs? wut? |
| 01:17.05 | bleeter | Legorol: i know im excited lawl |
| 01:17.20 | bleeter | <<easily amused |
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| 01:21.03 | Kraps | "I proceeded to tell him that if he can do more dps than me I'd pay him 100 gold and if he did less than me he owes me 100.. So he logged off." |
| 01:21.20 | Kraps | good way to weed out noobs |
| 01:21.39 | Kraps | or trash talkers |
| 01:23.39 | Kraps | Heyurdead has defeated Ucantbeatme in a duel |
| 01:23.43 | Kraps | hmm |
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| 01:42.33 | Shirik | Thorim's Chain Lightning hits Kimina for 23368 Nature (24382 Resisted) (196070 Overkill) |
| 01:46.11 | Spectro | ouch |
| 01:48.52 | mikma | shirik: DIEEEEEE |
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| 01:52.17 | alestane | Sounds like he just did. |
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| 01:53.54 | kd3 | green beam in the raid? |
| 01:54.15 | bleeter | hey i just noticed I get 8 char copies |
| 01:54.20 | Shirik | kd3? |
| 01:54.26 | bleeter | kd3: so er where do I line up to slay you? |
| 01:54.28 | Zyndrome | Thorims chainlightning is bullshit :< |
| 01:54.37 | Shirik | no, my raid is bullshit |
| 01:54.41 | Zyndrome | o |
| 01:54.41 | Shirik | people need to learn how to spread out |
| 01:54.50 | tlund | the 3.1.0 PTR was still upp in .eu when i checked about 5 hour ago :/ |
| 01:54.52 | Shirik | it should not bounce 8 times before it hits me |
| 01:55.09 | Zyndrome | and I get cursed at in AV for killing a rogue that is supposed to recap a tower just so some guys can get their achievement |
| 01:55.10 | bleeter | wtb: bnet account switch inside ptr char copy |
| 01:55.20 | Zyndrome | and I just lol |
| 02:00.32 | Ycarene | I get reported once in a while because I can't top the charts in BG's. |
| 02:02.01 | Ycarene | One GM told me that if I couldn't contribute, I should consider not going, as if I were doing nothing. I just suck at PvP, but I do it to pass time, no reason to go apes*** on me. |
| 02:02.17 | Zyndrome | twats report you for anything |
| 02:02.45 | Wobin | Zyndrome: So you got reported... for playing the game? |
| 02:02.50 | Ycarene | I was surprised the GM even bothered to chat with me. |
| 02:03.00 | Ycarene | Wobin - I got reported for playing the game poorly. |
| 02:03.17 | Zyndrome | Wobin: chances are that I got reported to playing the game properly :P |
| 02:03.31 | Wobin | Man, you can't win, either way, can you? =P |
| 02:03.39 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure I've been reported for focusig on healers. |
| 02:03.50 | Zyndrome | just destroyed some random buttheads chances to get an achievement |
| 02:03.52 | Ycarene | Wobin - One was where I was the only one defending a node (the stables) and refused to abandon it to help elsewhere. |
| 02:04.31 | Wobin | I seriously hope the response to the reports was "lrn2pvp" |
| 02:05.26 | Zyndrome | I got reported and 3 hour ban for RP'ing in a BG |
| 02:05.27 | bleeter | so uh how big's this ptr patch? |
| 02:05.29 | Zyndrome | once |
| 02:05.34 | Dagmar | Hmm.... AotD still seems to work for jousts |
| 02:05.45 | Ycarene | The GM that chided me before, before he left said, "If I get this complaint again, I'm giving you three days, stay out of the BG's if you can't get yourself up to par with your peers". |
| 02:05.45 | Dagmar | I wonder if they're even going to bother fixing that |
| 02:06.06 | Dagmar | Ignore him |
| 02:06.30 | Dagmar | I don't necessarily like saying "ignore the GM" but I doubt his decision is policy |
| 02:06.42 | Thunder_Child | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/29/virginia-foxx-story-of-ma_n_192971.html |
| 02:06.46 | Ycarene | Dagmar - Well, since he actually CAN give me 3 days, I haven't been back in BG's since. |
| 02:07.08 | Dagmar | He might, but the backlash would be unpleasant |
| 02:07.10 | kd3 | fire off an email to wowgmfeedback-us@blizzard.com |
| 02:07.33 | Dagmar | I've seen nothing to indicate they're supposed to pass judgement on people's performance, so long as they're not just idling through the BG |
| 02:07.33 | Ycarene | kd3 - no, it wouldn't help, I don't even remember the guys name. |
| 02:07.46 | kd3 | it'll be attached to your account history |
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| 02:08.15 | Ycarene | kd3 - I don't care, I don't want to stir a pot of s***. |
| 02:08.36 | Thunder_Child | kd3, *you're* 47K of changes |
| 02:08.43 | Dagmar | WEll, you at least feel comfortable going into Wintergrasp (if you're 80), right? |
| 02:08.51 | kd3 | oh geez. did I? |
| 02:08.56 | Ycarene | Dagmar - not really. |
| 02:09.15 | Ycarene | Dagmar - I fish there and farm there, but I turn tail when the fighting starts. |
| 02:09.37 | Dagmar | Now *that's* a shame becasue at the very least the mounted cannons are one hell of an equalizer |
| 02:09.59 | Dagmar | If you hop on one of those and shoot anyone who brings a vehicle near, you've done your job |
| 02:10.07 | Duman | lol |
| 02:10.18 | Thunder_Child | kd3, that wasnt to me was it? |
| 02:10.20 | Duman | kd3: you gonna fite some devs tomorrow? |
| 02:10.31 | Dagmar | I get ratehr ill about it when I see someone trying to wreck a cannon that's unmanned |
| 02:10.32 | kd3 | can't. I'm gonna be at work |
| 02:10.38 | Duman | ahh |
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| 02:10.53 | Duman | I would, but my laptop is a craptop and can't del w/ wow |
| 02:10.54 | Kraps | halp http://pastebin.com/d27403a9b |
| 02:11.06 | Duman | plus, I'm on EVDO, heh |
| 02:11.11 | Duman | would be lagtastic |
| 02:11.12 | Dagmar | Oof |
| 02:11.14 | Dagmar | Latency hell |
| 02:12.36 | Ycarene | Dagmar - the person who reported me go the rest of the people to report me, he was on another server though, so I'm probably just being too careful. |
| 02:12.47 | Dagmar | Pretty much |
| 02:12.59 | Shirik | Hey Iriel |
| 02:13.04 | Shirik | and Dagmar |
| 02:13.07 | Iriel | Hey Shirik |
| 02:13.14 | Shirik | remember my whole "I need to find what packages are in the current stack trace" problem? |
| 02:13.16 | Dagmar | ...because if what idiots thought about things mattered, every BM hunter who entered AV before 3.1 would have gotten a ban |
| 02:13.25 | Iriel | I do remember that |
| 02:13.30 | Dagmar | Hey Shirik |
| 02:13.33 | Shirik | I told you I was implementing a SecurityManager, right? |
| 02:13.47 | Dagmar | \I know that once I had to kill the tank to convince them that "No, I was *not* 'nerfed to the floor'" |
| 02:13.51 | Shirik | http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/lang/SecurityManager.html#getClassContext() |
| 02:13.53 | Iriel | Well, a permissions service (I assumed you were using an existing security manager) |
| 02:13.55 | Shirik | I feel really stupid right about now |
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| 02:14.16 | Iriel | Shirik: heh, 8-) |
| 02:17.50 | Kraps | should a cat be expected to bear tank when needed for a pug? |
| 02:18.10 | Dagmar | Dependson whether not they have an alternate gear set for it, probably |
| 02:18.24 | Shirik | Kraps: In what instance? |
| 02:18.41 | Kraps | any Shirik |
| 02:18.47 | Dagmar | It'd almost be a shame to have to delay things to scounge up another tank if you've got the gear to doit |
| 02:18.49 | Kraps | while leveling too |
| 02:19.01 | Shirik | Well, not in Ulduar unless he has a second set for sure |
| 02:19.05 | Shirik | other instances, perhaps |
| 02:19.06 | Dagmar | hehe> |
| 02:19.06 | Dagmar | > Candace Sergio |
| 02:19.06 | Dagmar | > |
| 02:19.07 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.13 | Dagmar | bleh stupid fumblepad |
| 02:19.31 | Dagmar | While leveling it's probably not all that important unless your cat is running around in cloth or something weird like that |
| 02:19.49 | Dagmar | Leveling i> |
| 02:19.49 | Dagmar | > Candace Sergio |
| 02:19.49 | Dagmar | > |
| 02:20.10 | bleeter | wut |
| 02:20.11 | Dagmar | (flushing paste buffer) I know the leveling instances are a heck of a lot easier than they used to be |
| 02:20.33 | bleeter | Dagmar: everything's a lot easier... ;) |
| 02:20.49 | Dagmar | I had to grab a set of twink gear out of the AH in a hurry one afternoon to use my *trading alt* to help guildies with Gnomeregan, and it was a doddle |
| 02:20.55 | bleeter | blames Canada |
| 02:21.01 | Shirik | wtf is CAndace Sergio |
| 02:21.04 | Dagmar | LIke, half geared and the right level I could just about solo the place |
| 02:21.09 | Kraps | the major diff between cat and bear gear is stam and def for bear, agi and crit for a cat? |
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| 02:21.15 | kd3 | a fake carmen sandiego? |
| 02:21.25 | Shirik | I loved that game |
| 02:21.31 | Dagmar | Shirik: Meh, some stuff in my cut buffer because I was replying to an email and the fumblepad on this laptop is in need of "adjusting" with a blowtorch |
| 02:22.18 | Wobin | Kraps: Bears don't need defense |
| 02:22.33 | Dagmar | Prety much just stamina and strength for them afaik |
| 02:22.34 | Wobin | they can talent to remove chance to crit |
| 02:22.37 | Kraftman | bears need honey :) |
| 02:23.10 | Kraps | how much should i pay for a stocks run :) |
| 02:23.18 | Dagmar | 0g. |
| 02:23.21 | Kraps | lol |
| 02:23.32 | Elly | you could find an at-level group |
| 02:23.40 | Elly | then you don't have to pay and it's not boring for all involved parties |
| 02:23.51 | Dagmar | Without quests instances are somewhat of a losing proposition |
| 02:24.20 | Dagmar | ...especially considering you can out-level Stockades in what, three hours? |
| 02:25.00 | Dagmar | Mebbe five on the outside |
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| 02:28.23 | Kraps | this nice pally is running me |
| 02:28.29 | chronx | How would i go about creating a button with 3 specific states that display for normal,mouseover, and mousedown events? Everytime I tryto make a button like that the highlight texture alwas covers over the mousedown texture and ruins the effect |
| 02:28.56 | Duman | I wonder how much of a cluster buying Blizzcon tix will be this year, hmm |
| 02:29.09 | kd3 | I expect they're doing the raffle this time around |
| 02:29.17 | Duman | Hmm, perhaps |
| 02:29.30 | Duman | I just better get tix is all i can say ;) |
| 02:29.49 | Duman | Altho I wonder if the D3/SC2 betas will be out by then... |
| 02:30.24 | Kraftman | chronx: what are you trying to do? |
| 02:30.31 | chronx | make a button with my own textures |
| 02:30.48 | chronx | but the difference is my highlight texture is fully opaque |
| 02:32.00 | Kraftman | so you want the highlight texture to hide when the mousedown texture shows? |
| 02:34.07 | chronx | thats basically what i'm trying to do now, but it seems :GetHighlightTexture() isn't returning a texture, or :SetHighlightTexture() doesn't like actual textures and prefers filepaths |
| 02:35.06 | Kraftman | whats an 'actual texture'? |
| 02:35.26 | chronx | err as in... whats returned from :GetHighlightTexture() |
| 02:35.36 | Kraftman | which is the file path |
| 02:35.54 | chronx | is it not a table of texture data? |
| 02:36.03 | Kraftman | nope, its just a file path |
| 02:36.07 | mikma | chronx: SetHighlightTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\MyAddOn\\Icon") ? |
| 02:36.08 | Kraftman | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Button_GetHighlightTexture |
| 02:36.46 | chronx | ok either way i try to store the current highlight texture onMouseDown and the restore it onMouseUp but it doesn't work |
| 02:37.07 | Kraftman | you coudl always just hide it? |
| 02:37.42 | chronx | hide the higlight texture? something like button:GetHighlightTexture():Hide()? o_o |
| 02:37.44 | mikma | chronx: are you sure you dont need to take the texture from the icon? |
| 02:38.18 | mikma | chronx: like: ActionButton1Highlight:GetTexture() |
| 02:38.26 | chronx | i do, onMouseDown i :SetHighlightTexture("") |
| 02:38.41 | mikma | or, ActionButton1Icon:GetHighlightTexture() |
| 02:38.55 | Arrowmaster | so i have to fill out this online application now for this job im applying for, i only have 48 hours from the time they created my account on the site to do it and i cannot procede because i do not know my highschool gpa and its required to go onto the next page |
| 02:39.11 | ckknight | hey beautiful people, would anyone mind testing my latest version of Chinchilla? main difference is switch from Rock to Ace3. http://www.wowace.com/projects/chinchilla/files/315-r20090501021734/ |
| 02:39.26 | kd3 | oh wow. lmao. the WHO caved. they're now calling it 'influenza A(H1N1)' |
| 02:39.30 | kd3 | arrow; eesh |
| 02:39.34 | mikma | chronx: if you are using default buttons, blizz's code overwrites the highlight texture back to normal, usually |
| 02:40.08 | Arrowmaster | and finding my highschool gpa is going to be a bitch because i know its going to be fucked up somehow |
| 02:40.28 | Zhinjio | Arrowmaster: guess? |
| 02:40.50 | Wobin | kd3: Well they called it swine flu |
| 02:40.56 | Wobin | and the egyptians wanted to kill all pigs |
| 02:41.11 | Wobin | and then they wanted it renamed Mexican Influenza |
| 02:41.15 | Arrowmaster | since i was technically a student at my local highschool, a student at a vocational highschool, and taking classes at college and getting highschool credit for them all at the same time |
| 02:41.16 | Dagmar | THey could always just stop having unprotected sex with pigs. |
| 02:41.16 | Wobin | so that wouldn't have ended well =P |
| 02:41.34 | mikma | yeah ehyptians did the massive slaughter |
| 02:41.48 | mikma | heard that from news two days ago and was amazed |
| 02:42.51 | Kraps | Message: Error while calling hook: |
| 02:42.53 | Kraps | Hook name: |
| 02:42.54 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:42.56 | Kraps | ..\AddOns\BtmScan\btmMain.lua line 1416: |
| 02:42.57 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:42.59 | Kraps | Instantiated from: |
| 02:43.01 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:43.03 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:43.06 | kd3 | >.> |
| 02:43.09 | ckknight | Kraps: bad monkey, no banana! |
| 02:43.18 | Hjalte_ | wonders what he forgot to backup when wiping his computer. |
| 02:43.20 | ckknight | there are plenty of paste services you can use |
| 02:44.29 | Kraps | so i did something stupid, i knew it was stupid, but i was hoping i wouldnt be seen as such /sigh |
| 02:44.29 | Kraftman | ckknight: is it supposed o be run with any other mods already installed? |
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| 02:44.34 | Kraftman | to* |
| 02:44.39 | Kraps | sorry |
| 02:44.53 | ckknight | Kraftman: the file I linked can be run standalone |
| 02:44.53 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, it resets the settings >.< |
| 02:45.04 | ckknight | Thunder_Child: yea, I switched from RockDB to AceDB |
| 02:45.38 | Thunder_Child | ckknight....the bunnies.... |
| 02:45.53 | ckknight | soz. |
| 02:46.01 | Thunder_Child | no you arent |
| 02:46.05 | ckknight | not really |
| 02:46.13 | Kraftman | i got an error first time i right clicked the minimap: 'Chinchilla\TrackingDots\TrackingDots.lua:109: attempt to index global 'AceGUISharedMediaWidgets'" |
| 02:46.17 | ckknight | wtf |
| 02:46.34 | ckknight | this is why I have testing :) |
| 02:46.39 | Kraftman | :) |
| 02:46.59 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, also when draging it the map didnt go offscreen but the loc did |
| 02:47.08 | ckknight | yep |
| 02:47.17 | ckknight | Thunder_Child: that works to a point where I'm fine with that. |
| 02:48.13 | Kraftman | the way it changes when you move it is pretty neat :) |
| 02:48.24 | ckknight | pushing fix |
| 02:48.32 | ckknight | Kraftman: yea, Chinchilla's been available a year or so :P |
| 02:48.44 | Kraftman | hehe |
| 02:48.56 | ckknight | I'm going to tag it as 2.0 once I'm satisfied |
| 02:49.05 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, there is no way to remove the location bar? |
| 02:49.29 | ckknight | pretty sure there is |
| 02:49.38 | Thunder_Child | if i uncheck enable it puts the default location bar there |
| 02:49.44 | Kraftman | can anyone help me with animation API? |
| 02:49.51 | ckknight | hmm |
| 02:49.52 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:49.57 | ckknight | Thunder_Child: you can file a ticket |
| 02:50.23 | Thunder_Child | ...you fix Kraftman's but i have to file a ticked....*mutter* |
| 02:50.29 | Thunder_Child | ticket* |
| 02:50.33 | Kraftman | :P |
| 02:51.06 | Dagmar | one of the problems is more complex than the other |
| 02:51.18 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, the lock button does not seem to work either |
| 02:51.32 | ckknight | hmm |
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| 02:56.29 | Kraps | can i get an encore do you want more |
| 02:57.45 | Kraps | I BECOME SO NUMB |
| 03:00.16 | mikma | atleast you aren't BREAKING YOUR HABIT |
| 03:01.32 | Kraps | heh |
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| 03:04.18 | Shirik | JERUSALEM (AP) — The outbreak of swine flu should be renamed "Mexican" influenza in deference to Muslim and Jewish sensitivities over pork, said an Israeli health official Monday. |
| 03:04.36 | Kraps | do you find yourself /who-ing guild members on an unguilded alt? :/ |
| 03:04.37 | Dagmar | Oh perhaps they could just lighten up |
| 03:05.15 | NeoTron | so guys. DK T8 wasn't very good - worse than 4xt7.5 even. So how do you fix that? By nerfing T7 set bonus! |
| 03:05.22 | bleeter | Shirik: because said strain is endemic in mexicans, amirite? |
| 03:05.36 | Dagmar | "They started it!" |
| 03:05.50 | Kraps | lets just call it H1N1 and be done with it |
| 03:06.11 | bleeter | as long as you don't call me late for breakfast |
| 03:06.13 | NeoTron | Wow |
| 03:06.17 | NeoTron | # Overload (Stormcaller Brundir) range has been reduced from 30 to 20 yards. |
| 03:06.20 | NeoTron | that is one significant nerf |
| 03:06.51 | Zyndrome | NeoTron , yup it's shit, and of course there's DPS-plate around that is better than the tier peices |
| 03:07.00 | Kraps | so is ulduar eazymode now? :p |
| 03:08.33 | chronx | how exactly can i make the return value from GetHightlightTexture() useful? it's supposedly a filepath but it doesn't look like it |
| 03:09.07 | Zyndrome | Ulduar is easier now, not easy :P |
| 03:09.28 | bleeter | I heard kd3 is easy |
| 03:10.05 | chronx | GetHighlightTexture() returns <userdata> and i have no idea what to do with that |
| 03:12.48 | bleeter | stick it down your pants |
| 03:12.59 | mikma | chronx: buttonIcon:GetHighlightTexture() |
| 03:17.47 | Iriel | chronx: A userdata, or a table containing [0] <userdata> ? |
| 03:17.55 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, it's true |
| 03:22.14 | NeoTron | Kraps: it's moving towards normal ulduar not being much more than naxx in a new setting |
| 03:22.25 | NeoTron | difference of course is the existance of hard modes for most bosses |
| 03:22.48 | Dagmar | I'm fine with that |
| 03:23.12 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: which bit? about kd3 being easy, or sticking it in your pants? |
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| 03:23.15 | Dagmar | It doesn't seem entirely useful to me that one might need to have _completely_ pillaged Naxx in order to survive it |
| 03:23.19 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: hmm i guess you may mean both |
| 03:23.36 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, i didnt see your pants comment |
| 03:24.24 | bleeter | my pants usually don't make comments |
| 03:24.54 | Thunder_Child | there is a first time for everything |
| 03:26.20 | bleeter | ayr |
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| 03:27.30 | Torhal | My life for Ayr? |
| 03:27.48 | Kraps_ | so my pc locked up... |
| 03:28.40 | Thunder_Child | no key? |
| 03:29.14 | Kraps_ | ya |
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| 03:31.51 | Kaelten | did I miss anything fun while I napped |
| 03:31.57 | bleeter | goes back to stockpiling bits of wood |
| 03:32.16 | Thunder_Child | depends on what you concider fun Kaelten |
| 03:32.48 | bleeter | two things spring to mind... |
| 03:32.55 | bleeter | 1. stupid question deserves stupid answer |
| 03:33.06 | bleeter | 2. be careful what you ask for unless you already know the answer |
| 03:33.55 | bleeter | if you enjoy mindless banter about stuff all then you should feel very sad that you missed out |
| 03:34.20 | bleeter | i think that's about it... Thunder_Child care to clarify? |
| 03:34.39 | Thunder_Child | yes, thank you bleeter. |
| 03:35.07 | Thunder_Child | you missed stupidity. your call. |
| 03:37.14 | bleeter | i was speaking, i took stupidy for granted. humble apologies for any inconvenience my innacuracy may have caused. |
| 03:37.37 | Kaelten | heh |
| 03:48.41 | Kaelten | Shadowed: ping me if you need anything more approved man |
| 03:48.59 | Shadowed | Kaelten I think thats it :p |
| 03:49.03 | Shadowed | but thanks |
| 03:49.11 | Kaelten | hehe |
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| 03:52.15 | Kraps_ | what did i do; bunch of guys left guild and i put my low lowbie in the new one |
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| 04:20.18 | Torhal | Whoever designed Noblegarden is an evil, sadistic fuck. |
| 04:21.58 | Iriel | I made my saving throw against Noblegarden |
| 04:22.01 | Dark_Elf | thinks the same of the designers of wow |
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| 04:27.12 | bleeter | continues to not care about rabbit worship. |
| 04:28.20 | DWSR | the Noble < Elder. |
| 04:28.30 | DWSR | Sorry, but Lunar Festival was WAY harder to do the achievement. |
| 04:28.58 | Torhal | I just gathered 50 eggs. Bought the Elegant Dress. It does NOT count for the achievement. |
| 04:29.54 | Arrowmaster | duh |
| 04:30.05 | Arrowmaster | you will find them perty easily though |
| 04:30.12 | Arrowmaster | you should have started the first day imho |
| 04:30.19 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: I was hoping, since in the 400 or so eggs I farmed, I have nada |
| 04:30.21 | Arrowmaster | i had it all done is 5 hours |
| 04:30.22 | Torhal | I did |
| 04:30.27 | Torhal | This is the only achievement I have left |
| 04:30.35 | Torhal | I cannot get a dress |
| 04:30.42 | Thunder_Child | 4 1/2 for me |
| 04:35.11 | Zhinjio | finally gets around to cataloging all his tickets and trying to prioritize future work |
| 04:35.15 | bleeter | salty > elder |
| 04:35.26 | bleeter | insane > salty |
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| 04:54.16 | durcyn | i dunno, i saw a character named "Elder Younger" earlier, that was pretty pro. |
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| 05:16.25 | Ackis | rectally |
| 05:17.56 | Wobin | Torhal: you don't need to find the dress for the title |
| 05:19.22 | Wobin | Torhal: also, thank you for libqtipclick =) http://images.gammatester.com/pics/59bd5039adc41972437a9ded2e47bd35.png |
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| 05:32.55 | Torhal | Wobin: Found it after 600 or so eggs. And you're welcome :) |
| 05:36.58 | augustl | is there an addon that tracks auction sales? I don't really care what other people are selling things for (auctioneer) I just want to specify an item and see a list of sales with timestamps and how much I sold it for |
| 05:38.40 | augustl | also, is PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLE still the de facto way to figure out wether or not you're in combat? |
| 05:39.09 | Zyndrome | afaik, yes |
| 05:39.27 | Iriel | augustl: Its the event you want if you need to do something at that moment |
| 05:39.33 | Iriel | InCombatLockdown is the way to see if you're in combat |
| 05:39.40 | augustl | ah, I see |
| 05:40.24 | Zyndrome | and my own little addon got hugely popular within my guild, as it plays FALCON PUNCH! whenever Steelbreaker casts Fusion Punch in the Iron Council encounter :E |
| 05:40.47 | augustl | regarding auction sales tracking: I guess writing one myself wouldn't be that hard. I'm concerned about data storage, though, I have a feeling that the SavedVariable would get pretty huge pretty fast unless I do something fancy (and I'm not aware of any fancy things I can do) |
| 05:41.38 | Wobin | augustl: I think Tekk has one |
| 05:41.49 | augustl | tekkub? |
| 05:41.53 | Wobin | aye |
| 05:41.56 | augustl | looks |
| 05:42.10 | augustl | http://github.com/tekkub/forsalebyowner/tree =D |
| 05:42.14 | augustl | thanks |
| 05:42.33 | augustl | oh, perhaps not |
| 05:43.24 | Jamash | woot, finally patched up to PTR 3.1.2 |
| 05:43.25 | tekkub | I have a what now? |
| 05:44.04 | augustl | tekkub: someones base, it belongs to you apparently, not them (us) |
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| 05:45.03 | tekkub | *scrolls up* |
| 05:45.05 | augustl | tekkub: anyway. An addon that tracks auction sales |
| 05:45.11 | tekkub | NutCounter is the one you want to look at |
| 05:45.32 | tekkub | and it only (accurately) tracks single-items |
| 05:45.49 | tekkub | I never really sell stacks, so it's not been a prio to make stack tracking work |
| 05:46.04 | augustl | I don't think I need stacks myself |
| 05:46.23 | augustl | if I do, I'll consider haxxing it =) |
| 05:46.44 | augustl | tekkub: is forking on github the way to go? |
| 05:47.34 | batrick | It's incredible people think AddOn's are "Blizzard's work": http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16474246018&sid=1 |
| 05:47.49 | tekkub | *shrug* |
| 05:48.14 | tekkub | batrick: that's not incredible |
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| 05:54.40 | Sixen | =) |
| 05:55.37 | Thunder_Child | http://shyble.deviantart.com/art/Yin-and-Yang-105240265 |
| 05:55.46 | Jamash | it's not incredible, but it is stupid |
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| 06:04.37 | Lothaer | Kaelten you there? |
| 06:05.04 | Thunder_Child | Lord Kaelten to you slave |
| 06:05.05 | Kaelten | sup |
| 06:05.23 | Lothaer | you got a account on the incgamers forums? |
| 06:06.11 | Kaelten | I used to I know |
| 06:06.14 | Lothaer | if you do can you goto this thread http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=421221 and sort the fool how posted before me out plz |
| 06:06.23 | Lothaer | who* |
| 06:06.42 | Lothaer | namely this remark 2. Since Curse is charging for distribution, why can't an Author of many add-ons do the same thing then, charge a fee the download all his add-ons at once to update them? It is the same thing except Curse did not write them. |
| 06:07.19 | Lothaer | his got a image from MANTA with Curse details on it |
| 06:07.53 | Kaelten | yeah he's been going around and taunting that info |
| 06:07.57 | Kaelten | it's false |
| 06:07.59 | Kaelten | and has been told so |
| 06:08.02 | Shirik | doncorneo |
| 06:08.03 | Shirik | again |
| 06:08.04 | Kaelten | but he doesn't care |
| 06:08.04 | Shirik | wow |
| 06:08.11 | Shirik | Can we just ban that name from the internet? |
| 06:08.17 | Kaelten | I've banned him on curse |
| 06:08.31 | Kaelten | he was spamming authors with nags |
| 06:09.21 | Lothaer | so all that info in the image is false? |
| 06:10.07 | Arrowmaster | you guys block wowmatrix yet? |
| 06:10.21 | Lothaer | hopefully rush is on it |
| 06:10.23 | Kaelten | I can promise you that if we had 3.8m in sales I'd be a very very happy person |
| 06:10.35 | Lothaer | there are some blocks in place i dont know the full details of it yet |
| 06:10.36 | Shirik | I'd love to know where they got that information |
| 06:10.37 | Kaelten | but I'm not that happy |
| 06:10.55 | Kaelten | Shirik: http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_7kyxjz |
| 06:10.58 | Shirik | well yeah |
| 06:11.01 | Kaelten | dnb is a pay site |
| 06:11.03 | Lothaer | brb, gonna go whack a fool with the legendary Ban Hammer then feed the left over to fluffy |
| 06:11.27 | Shirik | but I mean where did THEY get that information |
| 06:11.30 | Shirik | like |
| 06:11.32 | Kaelten | I'm not sure how manta is just giving away info that dnb wants to charge 100+ |
| 06:11.37 | Shirik | where did they come up with the number $3.8m |
| 06:11.42 | Shirik | I'm sure you don't tell them that info |
| 06:11.49 | Arrowmaster | Lothaer: want me to get a new memory dump and check what stupid error handling they have again? the other week you could have justed added a <!-- <title>404 Page Not Found</title> --> to your pages and it would have died |
| 06:11.50 | Kaelten | nope, sure haven't |
| 06:12.01 | Shirik | lol Arrowmaster, you're still on that |
| 06:12.26 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: did you see that i found the code that actually 100% modified addon files |
| 06:12.32 | Kaelten | because they say estimated there really isn't any telling what they have |
| 06:12.34 | Shirik | hm? no |
| 06:12.39 | Arrowmaster | i had fun posting that on the forums |
| 06:12.46 | Torhal | Kaelten: Curse isn't located in California, either. |
| 06:12.52 | Kaelten | Torhal: yeah it is |
| 06:13.04 | Torhal | Kaelten: Then it's more than one location. |
| 06:13.06 | Kaelten | that's our corporate headquarters address listen |
| 06:13.07 | Shirik | Well I recently found out WM is actually not allowed to redistribute most GPL addons |
| 06:13.07 | Torhal | :D |
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| 06:13.09 | Kaelten | listed* |
| 06:13.17 | Kaelten | Torhal: yeah we have a development studio in alabama |
| 06:13.18 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: oh really? |
| 06:13.29 | Lothaer | Arrowmaster: i wouldnt know what to do with the info imo contact Rushster |
| 06:13.29 | Kaelten | http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_zvpsy |
| 06:13.44 | Shirik | Yeah. I don't want to go into details right now, but I sent off a question to FSF about it and they pointed out a license violation. |
| 06:13.53 | kd3 | oooh |
| 06:13.54 | kd3 | purty |
| 06:14.05 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if they would be willing to help out |
| 06:14.12 | Kaelten | Shirik: oh really? |
| 06:14.17 | Kaelten | that's very interesting |
| 06:14.19 | Shirik | didn't I tell you this? |
| 06:14.21 | Kaelten | nope |
| 06:14.22 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 06:14.25 | Shirik | not you |
| 06:14.26 | Shirik | Kaelten |
| 06:14.27 | Torhal | Kaelten: Est. # of Employees: Kaelten, ckknight |
| 06:14.29 | Torhal | snickers. |
| 06:14.35 | Kaelten | heh |
| 06:14.48 | ckknight | waves at the nice people |
| 06:14.56 | Shirik | Well anyway, the advice from FSF doesn't come directly from a lawyer so I intend to talk to my dad about it first before going any further |
| 06:15.08 | Lothaer | ~wave |
| 06:15.09 | purl | ACTION waves goodbye. |
| 06:15.13 | Shirik | he's a patent lawyer |
| 06:15.23 | Shirik | so he should have some good info |
| 06:15.27 | Kaelten | lmao |
| 06:15.30 | Lothaer | nice very nice |
| 06:15.45 | Lothaer | http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/IMG.jpg |
| 06:16.03 | Lothaer | all prices are AUD |
| 06:16.11 | Shirik | what's an AUD? |
| 06:16.18 | Lothaer | Australian Dollar |
| 06:16.21 | Shirik | well yeah |
| 06:16.23 | Cairenn | austrai .. that |
| 06:16.24 | Shirik | but like, what is that in USD |
| 06:16.28 | Kaelten | Shirik: interesting |
| 06:16.44 | Arrowmaster | who the hell buys a projector |
| 06:16.48 | Shirik | I almost did |
| 06:16.49 | Cairenn | Shirik: http://www.xe.com/ucc/ |
| 06:16.50 | Kaelten | Lothaer: you should post this image in response to him |
| 06:16.50 | Kaelten | http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_zvpsy |
| 06:16.51 | Kaelten | er |
| 06:16.54 | Kaelten | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/6402481e70b881f2bc621eb0978c179b.png |
| 06:17.06 | Lothaer | 28,061.00 AUD |
| 06:17.06 | Lothaer | |
| 06:17.06 | Lothaer | = |
| 06:17.06 | Lothaer | |
| 06:17.07 | Lothaer | 20,449.42 USD |
| 06:17.12 | Shirik | .... wtf |
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| 06:17.22 | Shirik | that is a hell of a computer |
| 06:17.41 | Lothaer | :P |
| 06:17.45 | Shirik | I do need a new desktop though |
| 06:17.56 | Lothaer | maybe Curse could raffle one off :D |
| 06:17.57 | Shirik | For the past 10 years or so I've just been upgrading |
| 06:18.02 | Iriel | It's an excessively ridiculous computer |
| 06:18.18 | Shirik | I might just start over with a fresh piece soon |
| 06:18.28 | Kaelten | eek |
| 06:18.40 | Shirik | the CD drive is really starting to die |
| 06:18.42 | Lothaer | "Unnecessary power is a necessity for maximum Awesome" |
| 06:18.48 | Shirik | it can only read like 50% of the discs I put in |
| 06:18.59 | Shirik | hold up |
| 06:19.01 | Shirik | $2000 keyboard? |
| 06:19.07 | Shirik | oh it's the OLED one |
| 06:19.07 | Lothaer | and mouse |
| 06:19.12 | Lothaer | yeah :D |
| 06:19.17 | Shirik | yeah but a G9 doesn't cost THAT much :) |
| 06:19.20 | Lothaer | and the G9 mouse |
| 06:19.30 | Iriel | Yeah, the G9 is fine (though I prefer the G5) |
| 06:19.32 | Lothaer | $2050 for both together |
| 06:19.42 | Iriel | The memory is ridiculous |
| 06:19.45 | Shirik | Problem is |
| 06:19.47 | Lothaer | 12GB :D |
| 06:19.50 | Shirik | I need a new computer, and I need a new camera |
| 06:19.54 | Lothaer | dose anything need that much yet? |
| 06:19.56 | Iriel | the drives are ridiculous |
| 06:19.56 | Shirik | where do you start |
| 06:20.09 | Iriel | 2 FTX295's is... excessive, but.. Well, no accounting for taste |
| 06:20.26 | Iriel | The speakers seem pretty silly too, price wise |
| 06:20.37 | Shirik | I think the point is to bring the price up as high as possible ^_^ |
| 06:20.41 | Lothaer | what about the display :D |
| 06:20.52 | Iriel | Shirik: Why not gold plate the case and cover it in stupid crystals then |
| 06:20.56 | Shirik | ! |
| 06:20.59 | Shirik | awesome idea! |
| 06:21.08 | Shirik | maybe they can custom build that |
| 06:21.16 | Shirik | what's a "stupid crystal" |
| 06:21.24 | Dashkal | Just give me a case made entirely of diamonds |
| 06:21.25 | Lothaer | make it worthy of someone like 50cent :D |
| 06:21.29 | Lothaer | serious bling |
| 06:21.38 | Jamash | needs spinnas |
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| 06:22.19 | Jamash | hook up some chrome rims to the case fans |
| 06:22.56 | Torhal | 50cent has a computer for a grill? Whoah. |
| 06:22.58 | Torhal | :D |
| 06:23.42 | Shirik | Hjalte |
| 06:23.43 | Shirik | :( |
| 06:24.05 | Hjalte | Yes my dear? |
| 06:24.16 | Shirik | you forgot this channel :( |
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| 06:24.49 | Iriel | Shirik: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarovski |
| 06:24.58 | Hjalte | You could just have called it wowinterface if you wanted people to remember it :) |
| 06:25.10 | Thunder_Child | it used to be |
| 06:25.21 | Thunder_Child | or rather it was similar |
| 06:25.22 | Shirik | yeah you can actually get here by going to #wowi-lounge |
| 06:25.49 | Iriel | sleeps |
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| 06:26.21 | Hjalte | I found out what that button does! |
| 06:26.37 | Shirik | o.O |
| 06:26.52 | Hjalte | It disconnected me. |
| 06:26.57 | Shirik | (02:26:06)  -› [notice from ChanServ]: Information on #wowinterface: |
| 06:26.57 | Shirik | (02:26:06)  -› [notice from ChanServ]: Founder : Cairenn |
| 06:26.57 | Shirik | (02:26:06)  -› [notice from ChanServ]: Successor : Shirik |
| 06:27.02 | Shirik | But I can't join |
| 06:27.12 | Shirik | and why am I the Successor anyway |
| 06:27.14 | Hjalte | It told me I needed an invite. |
| 06:27.24 | Hjalte | When I tried, anyway. |
| 06:27.37 | Cairenn | Shirik: I have no idea why it has you marked as the successor |
| 06:27.39 | Cairenn | :p |
| 06:27.46 | Shirik | what is that channel anyway |
| 06:27.57 | Shirik | Wait wait |
| 06:28.00 | Cairenn | ooooh, that channel |
| 06:28.05 | Shirik | so that means, Shirik > Dolby |
| 06:28.11 | Shirik | if I'm the successor and not Dolby |
| 06:28.21 | Cairenn | yeah, it's because the channel is locked out and forwards to here |
| 06:28.30 | Shirik | well it certainly doesn't forward here :) |
| 06:28.43 | Cairenn | that's the thing, Dolby should be the successor, not sure why it shows you |
| 06:28.50 | Cairenn | anyway, yeah, the channel is dead |
| 06:28.51 | Shirik | nope, freenode is never wrong |
| 06:29.00 | Shirik | obviously Shirik > dolseni |
| 06:29.02 | Dolby | Shirik is the man |
| 06:29.03 | Shirik | er, Shirik > Dolby |
| 06:29.14 | Dolby | i agree |
| 06:29.30 | Dolby | now get back to work |
| 06:29.34 | Shirik | :( |
| 06:33.20 | augustl | why is _G.InspectFrame nil? |
| 06:33.26 | augustl | or: how do I show the inspect frame |
| 06:34.15 | Arrowmaster | isnt it a LoD addon? |
| 06:34.31 | Arrowmaster | look at UIParent.lua in the framexml to find out what causes it to load |
| 06:34.46 | DWSR | anyone know a place where I can enter a bunch of items and tell it to give me totals? |
| 06:34.50 | DWSR | stat totals, even. |
| 06:34.52 | augustl | aha |
| 06:34.58 | augustl | Arrowmaster: that makes sense, thanks |
| 06:35.35 | augustl | InspectUnit() =) |
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| 06:48.57 | tekkub | hot damn, xkcd likes me today |
| 06:49.06 | Lothaer | here the entre article :D http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/comps.jpg |
| 06:50.41 | NightHawkTheSane | tekkub: oh man, xkcd's hover text today is win. :) |
| 06:50.56 | tekkub | yup ^^ |
| 06:52.47 | Taroven | Hmm... any up-to-date tutorials on adding an options panel (via the Blizz interface options) to an addon? |
| 06:53.50 | NightHawkTheSane | the comments in the interface code are pretty good |
| 06:59.28 | Taroven | Why can I never remember that site with all the interface version diffs... |
| 06:59.40 | Jamash | wowcompares |
| 06:59.41 | Thunder_Child | wowcomapirs |
| 06:59.47 | Jamash | fail |
| 06:59.49 | Thunder_Child | or however it is spelled |
| 06:59.50 | Taroven | XD |
| 06:59.50 | Cairenn | ~wowcompares |
| 06:59.50 | purl | i guess wowcompares is http://wowcompares.com |
| 06:59.51 | Taroven | Thanks. |
| 07:04.47 | Shirik | so |
| 07:04.51 | Shirik | Paladin 2 piece bonus is awesome |
| 07:05.01 | Shirik | Our top paladin did 8 million healing today |
| 07:05.07 | Shirik | of that, 30k was from the 2 piece bonus |
| 07:05.08 | DWSR | what is it? |
| 07:05.22 | Shirik | your holy shock crits place a hot on the target for some amount |
| 07:05.38 | DWSR | imba. |
| 07:05.40 | DWSR | needs nerf. |
| 07:05.41 | DWSR | QQ. |
| 07:05.42 | DWSR | etc. |
| 07:05.44 | Shirik | lua> 30000 / 8000000 |
| 07:05.45 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0.00375 |
| 07:05.50 | Shirik | lol at 0.3% of healing |
| 07:05.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 07:05.59 | NightHawkTheSane | not -that- impressive :P |
| 07:06.29 | NightHawkTheSane | hots get stomped pretty easily in a raid. :\ |
| 07:06.35 | Shirik | my renew doesn't |
| 07:07.36 | Shirik | today he had an effective healing of 5.6m, I had 4.9m |
| 07:07.46 | Shirik | my renews: 991k |
| 07:08.07 | Shirik | his holy mending: 35k |
| 07:08.17 | Shirik | wait wtf |
| 07:08.25 | Shirik | wws is lying about something |
| 07:08.30 | Shirik | says he did 9m then 5.6m |
| 07:08.38 | Shirik | then 12m |
| 07:08.43 | Shirik | what the hell |
| 07:09.24 | NightHawkTheSane | (wws kinda sucks) |
| 07:09.29 | Shirik | agree |
| 07:09.41 | Shirik | I still can't believe they insist on using the Java "metal" look and feel |
| 07:09.43 | Shirik | for their client |
| 07:09.50 | Corrodias | eww |
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| 07:10.06 | NightHawkTheSane | i cant believe they insist on having it suck that badly. |
| 07:10.14 | Shirik | Using the system look and feel takes 1 extra line of code |
| 07:10.16 | Shirik | 1 line! |
| 07:10.30 | Shirik | a few more if you want to be safe and catch the extremely unlikely possibility that the system look and feel is not suppoted |
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| 07:28.31 | Fisker- | hey Shirik |
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| 07:38.19 | Sargeras | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:38.27 | Sargeras | well that doesnt work |
| 07:38.56 | Cairenn | not real well, nope |
| 07:39.36 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 07:39.43 | Cairenn | hugs Sargeras |
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| 07:45.22 | Grum | is there any way to find the relative location of a frame to another one? ea i've got a frame which is a child of another one, setpointed to the parent but i want to know where the frame is in relation to UIParent |
| 07:46.48 | NightHawkTheSane | getpoint and math? |
| 07:47.30 | Grum | well yes but then i'd need to do getpoint for each parent until i reach uiparent? |
| 07:47.48 | Grum | or rather something that was setpointed against it |
| 07:48.14 | NightHawkTheSane | i didn't say it was the -best- way :P |
| 07:48.48 | Grum | guess its doable :) |
| 07:50.06 | Grum | mm if GetPoint returns 'nil' for the frame it is set to, its relative to UIParent right? :D |
| 07:50.35 | Xinhuan | no grum ;p |
| 07:50.40 | Grum | meh! |
| 07:50.48 | Grum | then help Xin :D |
| 07:50.49 | Xinhuan | it is relative to the monitor screen if the parent is nil |
| 07:51.10 | Xinhuan | its just that NORMALLY, UIParent is the same as the monitor screen |
| 07:51.24 | Grum | except when you manually setwidth/height on it? |
| 07:51.24 | Xinhuan | but you can resize UIParent, and WorldFrame, and move them as well |
| 07:51.28 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 07:51.41 | Xinhuan | what do you think UIParent is parented to? lol (nil) |
| 07:51.47 | Grum | :P |
| 07:51.55 | Grum | so is there any way to get the relative positioning? |
| 07:52.04 | Xinhuan | using a lot of "math" |
| 07:52.18 | Xinhuan | but the fastest way is to frameA:GetLeft() |
| 07:52.22 | Xinhuan | and frameB:GetLeft() |
| 07:52.26 | Xinhuan | and deduct one from the other |
| 07:52.41 | Xinhuan | then account for scaling |
| 07:52.47 | Xinhuan | pretty simple right? |
| 07:52.52 | Grum | o.O |
| 07:53.02 | Xinhuan | can use GetTop() and GetBottom() and GetRight() as well, they return screen coordinates |
| 07:53.14 | Xinhuan | i.e as though its parented to nil |
| 07:53.27 | Xinhuan | GetCursorPosition() returns screen coords as well |
| 07:53.27 | Grum | mmm that should do indeed |
| 07:53.38 | Xinhuan | so you can use that to determine if the mouse is over a frame |
| 07:54.03 | Grum | i just want to make this mover stay onscreen, which it does! but when it hits the edges it still allows the parent frame to be moved offscreen |
| 07:54.06 | Xinhuan | in fact the MouseIsOver(frame, inset, inset, inset, inset) function in UIParent doesit that way |
| 07:54.18 | Xinhuan | that's because you have set insetrects |
| 07:54.23 | Xinhuan | to be non-zero |
| 07:54.30 | Xinhuan | on the frame |
| 07:54.37 | Grum | mmm no its because the code is a hack :p |
| 07:54.45 | Xinhuan | then you'll have to adjust |
| 07:54.50 | Xinhuan | the inset rects |
| 07:54.51 | Grum | the mover calls: self:GetParent():StartMoving() |
| 07:55.20 | Xinhuan | have you noticed the code for the "vertical bar resize" in omen? |
| 07:55.21 | Grum | which is sort of a hack unless you redo the parenting the only way |
| 07:55.37 | Xinhuan | its a lot of math |
| 07:56.01 | Xinhuan | and most people don't even know that vertical line is a resize grip |
| 07:56.03 | augustl | math.. wish I knew it |
| 07:56.14 | Xinhuan | and can be hidden if you lock omen in position |
| 07:56.14 | augustl | I'm going to sit by and hope I magically know math some day |
| 07:56.56 | Grum | Xinhuan: hmz that i noticed |
| 07:57.12 | Grum | i just wonder if there isnt a better way; its about BetterBlizzOptions btw |
| 07:57.23 | Grum | i get beyond frustrated that it allows me to drag the mover handle offscreen |
| 07:57.24 | Xinhuan | because i don't want the vertical grip to be dragged outside |
| 07:57.34 | Xinhuan | of teh omen window ;p |
| 07:57.40 | Xinhuan | nor too close to the edges, so there's excess math |
| 07:58.07 | Grum | yes but there the parenting is done right |
| 07:58.14 | Grum | its inversed for BBO >< |
| 07:58.30 | Grum | the SetClampedToScreen works for the handle |
| 07:58.55 | Grum | but it doesnt prevent the parent to be moved offscreen (would be fixed if the parenting was the other way around) |
| 08:06.42 | Arrowmaster | you know i think thats a good thing, some of us want to move the frame offscreen at time |
| 08:20.03 | Grum | Arrowmaster: completely offscreen? |
| 08:20.07 | Grum | in a way you cant move it again? |
| 08:20.10 | dolseni | http://miketysoncheats.ytmnd.com/ |
| 08:20.28 | Grum | i agree the window itself should be able to be moved but the 'mover handle' should never just be in a spot where you cant move it anymore |
| 08:20.55 | Arrowmaster | Grum: you realize that its a simple fix for anybody that ends up doing that right? |
| 08:21.03 | Grum | hence i am not opting for calling: mover:GetParent():SetClampedToScreen(true) -- that would be the easy way out |
| 08:21.20 | Grum | and what is that simple fix? :) |
| 08:21.37 | Arrowmaster | reloadui |
| 08:21.43 | Grum | ................. |
| 08:21.55 | Grum | that is just fail Arrow :) |
| 08:22.10 | Arrowmaster | its what you get for moving a window offscreen |
| 08:22.17 | Grum | you should not be able to! |
| 08:22.36 | Grum | at least not completely in away you cant move it again :) |
| 08:22.42 | Arrowmaster | so why not just clamptoscreen the mover? |
| 08:22.51 | Grum | because the mover is invisible |
| 08:22.57 | Adys | .. why |
| 08:23.18 | Adys | I mean right now your design is flawed, you cant complain about blizz |
| 08:23.20 | Grum | so you cant see where the mover is lurking and the parent moves independant of the mover because this thing is a big hack (BetterBlizzOptions) |
| 08:23.39 | Grum | Adys: its not mine, i am just frustrated enough about it to fix it ... |
| 08:23.54 | Grum | *normally* it would nto be a problem because you can just fix the parenting, now you dont really want to |
| 08:24.01 | Arrowmaster | i still like my solution rather than trying to add more hacks to an already major hack |
| 08:24.05 | Adys | whoever wrote it then |
| 08:24.22 | Grum | Arrowmaster: the hack is not that major, it is just incomplete |
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| 08:27.29 | Kalroth | There is no such thing as a hack, there's a working solution and a non-working solution! |
| 08:27.59 | Grum | and this one is a hack ;) |
| 08:28.05 | Jamash | a hack is a semi-working solution |
| 08:28.14 | Arrowmaster | or an ugly solution |
| 08:29.05 | Grum | a hack is an ugly solution, in this case its not completely working *nicely* either ;) |
| 08:32.11 | Kalroth | Jamash: Nope, it's black or white! |
| 08:33.04 | Jamash | on the contrary, it is yourself to whom your statement applies |
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| 08:47.39 | Grum | ha! got it working :) |
| 08:48.15 | Grum | parent_frame:SetPoint( "CENTER", nil, "BOTTOMLEFT", mover_center_x, 10 + mover_center_y - parent_frame:GetHeight()/2 ) |
| 08:48.32 | Grum | it now just snaps back to where the mover is |
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| 08:58.42 | Taroven | Anyone know which event is fired when swapping talent specs? DevTools isn't tracking it. =\ |
| 08:59.10 | Taroven | Nevermind, found it |
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| 09:05.09 | Adys | http://xkcd.com/576/ |
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| 09:08.37 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16888519080&sid=1 |
| 09:08.52 | Cairenn | don't see it on their site, must be on the application itself |
| 09:09.12 | Cairenn | and I still absolutely refuse to have it on my computer |
| 09:10.57 | Fisker- | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Ravencrest&cn=Fiskerdin&gn=Semper+Danica |
| 09:10.58 | Fisker- | i win |
| 09:11.31 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: bullshit story, theres no form of 'news' in their client for that to even be told in |
| 09:11.51 | Cairenn | well, they had that "announcement" when we blocked them |
| 09:11.55 | Cairenn | in the app |
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| 09:12.25 | Arrowmaster | yes, under the column listing the lastest version of an addon it has a 'Read Me' link |
| 09:12.43 | Arrowmaster | that opens a little popup with that biased crap |
| 09:12.46 | Cairenn | nod |
| 09:13.04 | Cairenn | well, I've no idea where this is supposedly posted then |
| 09:13.12 | Cairenn | cause I couldn't find it on their site any where |
| 09:13.51 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Guest43523] by ChanServ |
| 09:14.10 | Cairenn | and, a whole lot more than just biased ;) |
| 09:14.16 | Cairenn | flat out lies would be closer |
| 09:14.37 | Fisker- | hey Guest43523 |
| 09:14.40 | Fisker- | you're awesome |
| 09:15.30 | Guest43523 | If the internet was Swine Flu |
| 09:15.38 | Guest43523 | Brighthouse would be Mexico |
| 09:15.46 | Cairenn | hugs Shirik |
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| 09:33.33 | Guest43523 | This is pathetic |
| 09:33.33 | Guest43523 | my internet is still down |
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| 09:33.44 | Shirik | yay for blackberries |
| 09:33.47 | Cairenn | rubs Shirik's shoulders |
| 09:33.58 | Shirik | I swear to god, I could hook my blackberry up to a router |
| 09:34.02 | Shirik | have as many customers as brighthouse does |
| 09:34.05 | Shirik | and STILL offer better service |
| 09:34.25 | Shirik | I'm logged in to WoW right now and have lower ping than I normally do while playing |
| 09:34.35 | Spellbinder | \o/ |
| 09:35.45 | Zyndrome | hurp |
| 09:38.42 | Jamash | woohoo, automagic re-action-bar-spell-ification works |
| 09:39.21 | Shirik | automatic re-action-bar-spell-ification |
| 09:39.40 | Maldivia | or short: arabs ? |
| 09:40.01 | Jamash | uh |
| 09:40.03 | Jamash | sure |
| 09:42.10 | Fisker- | hey Shirik |
| 09:42.14 | Fisker- | why so awesome? |
| 09:44.16 | Shirik | hy Fisker- |
| 09:44.19 | Shirik | NOT AWESOME |
| 09:44.40 | Fisker- | :E? |
| 09:46.40 | Adys | anyone in england? |
| 09:47.13 | Adys | (wondering if today is a work day in england) |
| 09:48.19 | Adys | Ill take it every brit is currently out and partying instead of at work on IRC, so that must be a yes |
| 09:50.13 | zenzelezz | I don't know about England, but in Norway today is not a work day |
| 09:53.30 | Jamash | puts on First of May by Jonathan Coulton. |
| 09:58.32 | Dagmar | ugh |
| 09:58.57 | Riffage | yeh today is a word day |
| 09:59.04 | Riffage | Monday is bank holiday though |
| 10:01.07 | Fisker- | Shirik |
| 10:01.10 | Fisker- | why do you hate me? :( |
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| 10:08.32 | Adys | outdoor-fucks Jamash |
| 10:08.44 | Jamash | :-O |
| 10:09.21 | Guest43523 | ok I'm going to sleep |
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| 10:18.48 | Fisker- | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:18.52 | Fisker- | you can't stop me |
| 10:20.23 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 10:20.27 | Shirik | my first critical error in a long time |
| 10:21.36 | Shirik | A character with that name already exists! |
| 10:21.42 | Shirik | I thought they fixed that? |
| 10:21.44 | Shirik | Like |
| 10:21.45 | Shirik | years ago |
| 10:22.10 | dolseni | nope |
| 10:22.13 | dolseni | i get that all the time |
| 10:22.40 | Fisker- | that's only if your character doesn't crash etc. |
| 10:23.00 | Fisker- | reboot tiems |
| 10:23.03 | Fisker- | also ownt Shirik |
| 10:27.54 | Shirik | A character with that name still exists |
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| 10:28.41 | dolseni | I once named a character God and then got the error "A character with that name still exists" |
| 10:28.43 | dolseni | true story |
| 10:28.54 | dolseni | ... not really |
| 10:29.37 | dolseni | hmm, i wonder what disney was thinking |
| 10:29.38 | dolseni | http://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1241158595589.gif |
| 10:29.48 | dolseni | somewhat safe for work |
| 10:32.02 | Fisker- | i came |
| 10:34.27 | Shirik | 4chan and "safe for work" do not go together |
| 10:34.33 | Fisker- | HAHA |
| 10:34.36 | Fisker- | YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME :D |
| 10:34.52 | Fisker- | fail blizzard = fail |
| 10:34.57 | Shirik | ? |
| 10:35.53 | Fisker- | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/246754b55c10e4f1426d7a8b493462f4.jpg |
| 10:36.23 | Shirik | wtf did you do |
| 10:36.25 | Adys | hahahh |
| 10:36.32 | Shirik | oh |
| 10:36.35 | Shirik | you moved into that zone |
| 10:36.40 | Shirik | and got changed to a female? |
| 10:36.51 | Shirik | that's win |
| 10:37.30 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 10:37.46 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 10:38.04 | Fisker- | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Fiskerdin <-look at me i'm a chick! |
| 10:39.03 | Shirik | winnar |
| 10:39.12 | Shirik | anyway sleepytime |
| 10:39.27 | Zyndrome | http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1240/mailgooglecomeop.jpg |
| 10:41.40 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: 188 rating? |
| 10:43.04 | Adys | Home Alone keeps resetting for everyone? |
| 10:43.11 | Fisker- | ye |
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| 10:43.24 | Adys | every time HS off cooldown or what? |
| 10:43.40 | Fisker- | every relog |
| 10:43.46 | Fisker- | not after i got the meta though |
| 10:43.46 | Adys | I didnt relog last time |
| 10:43.58 | Fisker- | probably also works when zoning |
| 10:44.04 | Adys | also, how bugged is daily chores? |
| 10:44.06 | batrick | anyone know the noun form (spelling) of edify. I'm pretty sure there is a variant with -ment at the end but can't think of how it is spelled. |
| 10:44.26 | Fisker- | none |
| 10:44.30 | Fisker- | or much |
| 10:44.53 | Fisker- | though the general opinion is that they changed it to just be 5 dailies for fear that people would be bugged |
| 10:45.02 | Fisker- | if you do 5 dailies you get the achievement |
| 10:45.40 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if ill be able to get home alone even though i dont have a hearthstone |
| 10:45.53 | Fisker- | get one :P |
| 10:46.03 | Adys | does it reset in bgs? |
| 10:46.21 | Arrowmaster | i have my ruby slippers just because i find it funny to have my 'number of times hearthstone used' statistic says 0 |
| 10:50.54 | Fisker- | i thought that was still a 1 hour cooldown? |
| 10:51.33 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 10:51.46 | Arrowmaster | but in the statistics tab it says ive never hearthed |
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| 10:59.49 | Adys | Fisker-: counter is still at 1/5 here after 2 dailies |
| 11:00.05 | Adys | oh. |
| 11:00.09 | Adys | forgot the orphan |
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| 11:05.55 | vmlinz | is there anybody interested in making a emacs way of keybindings system in wow? |
| 11:07.05 | Adys | try asking in #vim |
| 11:08.54 | krka | Ctrl-X K -- You begin casting KillBuffer |
| 11:08.55 | zenzelezz | "uhm, the tank needs some healing soon, what are you doing?" "sorry, was trying to remember the right syntax... :ht Greater Heal?" |
| 11:09.34 | vmlinz | But I'm talking about the wow addon and I think someone here will be interested. |
| 11:10.08 | Adys | :h gh |
| 11:10.11 | Adys | \o/ |
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| 11:11.35 | airtonix | muwahahahahahaha .... no |
| 11:12.04 | airtonix | [your target is out of range] |
| 11:12.32 | foxlit | krka: CTRL+B K K L O O T |
| 11:12.58 | airtonix | [hunter: why was i give 'pants of priest healing'?] |
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| 11:35.24 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 11:35.25 | Arrowmaster | fuck |
| 11:35.29 | Arrowmaster | i didnt get home alone |
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| 11:38.02 | zenzelezz | just as well, that movie was always overrated |
| 11:38.05 | Fisker- | were you home alone? |
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| 11:45.15 | Adys | Fisker-: I wonder if the same bug happens with NW for female chars |
| 11:45.32 | Fisker- | NW? |
| 11:46.25 | Adys | netherwing |
| 11:46.34 | Fisker- | ah |
| 11:46.38 | Fisker- | maybe |
| 11:46.43 | Adys | ill test in a min |
| 11:51.08 | Arrowmaster | so i mentioned yesterday how this online job application needs my highschool gpa but i never got a final gpa and i only have 48 hours from the time the account was created to do it (about 24 hours left now) |
| 11:51.29 | Arrowmaster | well just called my old highschool, they never calculated my final gpa |
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| 11:51.46 | chronx | lol... |
| 11:52.48 | Arrowmaster | yes being enrolled in 3 schools at once during highschool causes.... complications..... |
| 11:53.29 | chronx | well you could always make up a GPA since your school doesn't have one calculcated to even compare to if the company were going to check somehow |
| 11:55.07 | Arrowmaster | especially when you do something really weird to fuck them up like fail 2 required classes your senior year making you have to take summer classes, while at the same time being allowed to skip the first class of the day senior year and come to school late because you are taking college classes for highschool credit |
| 11:57.18 | Arrowmaster | yeah my transcripts look really funny because i have all these great achievements but really low grades because i dont give a fuck |
| 11:58.20 | Kraftman | sounda familiar |
| 11:58.23 | Kraftman | sounds* |
| 12:00.24 | Arrowmaster | sleepy time, i have a class in 5 hours |
| 12:00.41 | Kraftman | what time is it for you? |
| 12:00.49 | Arrowmaster | 8am |
| 12:00.53 | Kraftman | heh |
| 12:01.03 | Kraftman | 1pm here, i just got up >< |
| 12:01.16 | Arrowmaster | i woke up at 5pm the last 2 days |
| 12:01.21 | Kraftman | lol! |
| 12:02.18 | chronx | what state arromaster? o_o |
| 12:02.35 | chronx | Arrowmaster* |
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| 12:25.26 | wereHamster | does WoW support IPv6? |
| 12:26.08 | chronx | i don't know much about ipv6 but i think china uses it, right? And wow is played in china soooo |
| 12:31.42 | Fisker- | doubt it wereHamster |
| 12:32.11 | Fisker- | atleast there's no ipv6 addresses for their loginserver |
| 12:32.15 | Fisker- | so i guess it stops there |
| 12:33.47 | wereHamster | hm, I'm asking because I came across a website that claims that WoW does support ipv6 |
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| 12:34.57 | airtonix | wow supports hamster protocol |
| 12:35.03 | airtonix | -_- |
| 12:35.08 | Lopeppeppy | And gerbil too. |
| 12:35.18 | Lopeppeppy | How do you think they power their servers? :P |
| 12:35.27 | airtonix | with gnomes |
| 12:35.35 | airtonix | and very small rocks |
| 12:35.38 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, we're too busy blowing up the servers. |
| 12:35.49 | airtonix | thats goblins |
| 12:35.59 | airtonix | exciting but unreliable tech : goblins |
| 12:36.04 | zenzelezz | don't you people get it yet? |
| 12:36.15 | zenzelezz | the WoW servers are run entirely off the heat from the flaming on the forums |
| 12:36.25 | airtonix | roasted gnomes |
| 12:36.30 | Fisker- | actually flamers act as heatsinks |
| 12:36.45 | wereHamster | ~wereHamster |
| 12:36.46 | purl | it has been said that werehamster is not scary, but Shaggy |
| 12:37.04 | wereHamster | ah, purl remembers me :) |
| 12:37.58 | mikma | are there any new children's week -quests / minipets? |
| 12:38.34 | Lopeppeppy | Frakkin' kids. I guess I should go smack them around tonight for the fun of it. |
| 12:38.47 | Hjalte | mikma: New achievements, but I haven't seen any new quests. I haven't done that much yet though. |
| 12:38.59 | airtonix | muwahaha |
| 12:38.59 | Hjalte | It seems to be a pretty small world event. |
| 12:39.01 | theorbtwo | There's a title on the meta, too. |
| 12:39.24 | theorbtwo | It seems much more high-level focused then the easter^Wnoblegarden stuff. |
| 12:39.59 | theorbtwo | Noblegarden is mostly just slogging, though I can see how the bunny ears thing would be hard on PVP servers. |
| 12:40.25 | zenzelezz | if you ask me, Blizzard is setting a great example with Children's Week. I wish in real life people would keep their children locked indoors 51 weeks of the year until they turn 18 |
| 12:40.41 | Lopeppeppy | No, dog kennels work fine, zenzelezz. |
| 12:41.00 | zenzelezz | yes, but not enough people use them |
| 12:41.19 | Lopeppeppy | Well, start the education program! :) |
| 12:43.27 | Fisker- | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 12:43.36 | Lopeppeppy | G'morning, Fisker |
| 12:43.45 | Fisker- | nahuh |
| 12:43.56 | Lopeppeppy | So? |
| 12:44.07 | Fisker- | So? |
| 12:44.14 | Lopeppeppy | You see my point, great. |
| 12:44.49 | Fisker- | i'm gonna cut you up |
| 12:45.09 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, how sweet. |
| 12:46.47 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1241175860870.jpg <-hurr irl trolling |
| 12:46.56 | Lopeppeppy | SFW? |
| 12:47.05 | Fisker- | ye |
| 12:47.17 | Fisker- | Everything on /b/ is safe for work! |
| 12:47.35 | Lopeppeppy | I trusteth not the 4Chan. |
| 12:47.58 | chronx | i'd love to see one of those irl |
| 12:48.30 | Lopeppeppy | I may see them soon, sadly... |
| 12:48.33 | Lopeppeppy | frowns |
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| 12:49.08 | chronx | Anyone familier with AceEvent? I can't seem to cancelScheduledEvent() :| |
| 12:49.50 | chronx | familiar* >_> |
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| 12:51.44 | Kraftman | is there a way to add the children of a frame to the same animation as the frame? |
| 12:53.58 | Wobin | how does one clear auctioneer info? |
| 12:59.26 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/05/01/funny-pictures-happiness-is/ |
| 12:59.53 | Lopeppeppy | Wobin, other than delete it and start over? |
| 13:02.25 | Wobin | I guess I could just delete the SV file |
| 13:02.31 | Wobin | I was hoping there was an ingame method |
| 13:03.02 | Lopeppeppy | Probably is, I just don't know it. *hu* |
| 13:03.04 | Lopeppeppy | *hug* |
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| 13:03.15 | Lopeppeppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:06.20 | kd3 | oh wow. that was awesome... couple of high schoolers welded a car around a flagpole for their senior prank |
| 13:06.25 | chronx | is there a way to say... make a corner of a frame draggable. But instead of making it resizing it changes the scale of the frame? |
| 13:06.26 | kd3 | http://community.gjsentinel.com/sites/mojo/?p=1200 |
| 13:07.07 | chronx | I want to drag the scale of a frame with a resize button, basically |
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| 13:26.05 | Hirsute-Home | So... what do Titansteel cooldowns go for vs. Titansteel bars on everyone's servers? |
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| 13:50.18 | foxlit | wish they'd fix the speech bubble bug already |
| 13:50.30 | Lopeppeppy | You use speech bubbles? Neat. |
| 13:51.50 | foxlit | Ironically, they're neat to get the position of the person/mob speaking |
| 13:52.07 | Lopeppeppy | Aloft, baby |
| 13:52.41 | zenzelezz | what's ironic about that? |
| 13:52.49 | foxlit | Meh. Don't like nameplates |
| 13:52.54 | zenzelezz | it would be more ironic if the speech bubble appeared where the character wasn't |
| 13:53.40 | foxlit | zenzelezz: It's almost as if you know what the bug is! |
| 13:53.58 | foxlit | namely, that things appear above your head rather than the speaker's head. |
| 13:54.34 | zenzelezz | well if you had simply said that then it would have made sense. Unspecified ironicality is fail |
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| 14:02.35 | foxlit | Hm, and the AH UI is being silly |
| 14:02.45 | alestane | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16888718841&sid=1 I died a little inside reading this. |
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| 14:03.49 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not even sure that's entirely Pitbull, I think there are some eepanels thrown in there. |
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| 14:07.51 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 14:08.48 | kneeki | Anyone happen to remember the name of an addon which puts different 'caps' on the ends of the blizzard main action bar? So instead of eagles, it can be changed to whatever? |
| 14:11.39 | chronx | I think that tooltip issue was caused when the wow engine started supporting the nvidia 3d glasses thing |
| 14:12.21 | chronx | I'm assuming because the tooltip went from just being over a players head to actually having coords in 3d space and that the problem is caused by trying to display tooltips behind the camera so they get pushed to the bottom of the screen |
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| 14:13.03 | Hati | hi |
| 14:13.21 | Hati | some1 here with Ace3-DB experience? |
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| 14:15.34 | Olison | Hati: just ask your question |
| 14:16.02 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 14:16.40 | Hati | i get the following error " CooldownIcons2-1.0 rev3\Config.lua:6: attempt to index field 'db' (a nil value) " but it shouldn't be nil |
| 14:17.21 | kd3 | how'd you define db? |
| 14:17.37 | kd3 | rather, put the code up at wowi.pastey.net so we can see it |
| 14:18.04 | Hati | already |
| 14:18.08 | Hati | doing |
| 14:18.58 | augustl | does anyone know what the deal is with Salandria in regards to the CoT event? |
| 14:19.36 | kd3 | aug; http://www.wowwiki.com/Salandria |
| 14:19.40 | Hati | -_- |
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| 14:20.46 | Hati | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/113396-1h20 |
| 14:21.06 | Hati | aw forgot to add something |
| 14:21.15 | Hati | function ci:OnInitialize() |
| 14:21.15 | Hati | self.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("CooldownIconsCharDB", defaults, "Default") |
| 14:21.15 | Hati | ci:InitConfig() |
| 14:21.15 | Hati | end |
| 14:21.30 | kd3 | edit the code, you can paste over it |
| 14:22.09 | Hati | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/113397 |
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| 14:27.16 | Hati | hmm |
| 14:27.24 | Lopeppeppy | Hrm. |
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| 14:27.37 | Hati | humpf |
| 14:28.04 | chronx | what exactly sets ci.db? |
| 14:28.52 | Hati | ci.db is just the options table |
| 14:29.19 | kd3 | it's defined in the second paste |
| 14:29.23 | Hati | yea |
| 14:29.55 | chronx | so then line 60 is assigning nil to ci.db? |
| 14:30.07 | Hati | line 6 |
| 14:30.37 | chronx | line60 is where you have self.db = LibStub("AceDB etc etc |
| 14:30.58 | Hati | ah you mean in core |
| 14:30.59 | Hati | yea |
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| 14:31.54 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/102258523 |
| 14:31.55 | Hati | thats not quite true that line 60 is assigning nil to ci.db |
| 14:32.30 | chronx | field 'db' of ci is nil from the error |
| 14:32.45 | Hati | yea |
| 14:32.57 | Hati | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.59 | Hati | without a problem |
| 14:33.07 | Hati | ci.db.char.layout.iconAmount = ci.db.char.layout.iconAmount+1 |
| 14:33.09 | Adys | whats with people whining about ie8 forcing itself as default browser on update? |
| 14:33.10 | Hati | i.e. |
| 14:33.31 | Adys | the ones who use another browser will figure it out quickly and switch back |
| 14:33.37 | chronx | not everyone wants ie8 as their default because they use firefox or some alternative and like it more then internet exploiter? |
| 14:33.47 | Adys | the ones who dont are using ie6 or ie7 and its GOOD it switches the default to ie8 |
| 14:33.55 | Adys | if anything this is a very good thing |
| 14:34.16 | chronx | people don't like clicking an extra button to change their default browser i suppose |
| 14:34.16 | Riffage | generally if people have an alternate browser install you could pretty much make the assumption they know how to change the default back |
| 14:34.21 | zenzelezz | IE8 doesn't force itself unless you use the full "god damnit don't ask me any questions" installation mode |
| 14:34.22 | Lopeppeppy | I just am not downloading IE8 as an update. |
| 14:34.34 | zenzelezz | left my Firefox just fine as default |
| 14:34.42 | Kraps | is SotF good for cats too? |
| 14:35.03 | Kaelten | as a web developer, I'm glad IE8 is a required update |
| 14:35.06 | Kaelten | or requiredish |
| 14:35.12 | kd3 | ^ |
| 14:35.13 | Adys | same Kaelten |
| 14:35.23 | kd3 | hopefully it'll kill off the ie6 users we're still seeing |
| 14:35.41 | Kaelten | kd3: I doubt it, they've already had ie7 be this level of update |
| 14:35.53 | Kaelten | it's largely large corporate customers who don't upgrade |
| 14:35.57 | kd3 | ya, but I can still hope |
| 14:36.09 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 14:36.09 | Lopeppeppy | Kaelten, or large educational institutions.... |
| 14:36.12 | Kaelten | yeah |
| 14:36.13 | kd3 | sighs at his corporate intranet flat-out requiring ie6 |
| 14:36.20 | Adys | or large assholes who think ie6 is better |
| 14:36.29 | Kaelten | I'm very happy about one thing though |
| 14:36.48 | Wobin | 90 more mageroyal =P |
| 14:36.52 | Kaelten | irefox |
| 14:36.52 | Kaelten | 624,544 55.98% |
| 14:36.52 | Kaelten | Internet Explorer |
| 14:36.52 | Kaelten | 328,441 29.44% |
| 14:36.59 | Kaelten | on wowace |
| 14:37.14 | Adys | Kaelten: what do chrome stats look like? |
| 14:37.24 | d87_ | and opera |
| 14:37.26 | Kaelten | #4 at 4.91% |
| 14:37.32 | Kaelten | opera is #3 at 5.53% |
| 14:37.38 | Adys | not too bad |
| 14:37.43 | Kaelten | and safari is at 3.56% #5 |
| 14:38.16 | Kaelten | of that 29.44% of IE only 19.81% of that 29.44% is ie6 |
| 14:38.21 | Adys | Im pretty sure at some point during the next year or two people will realize ff is getting as bad as ie |
| 14:38.44 | Seerah | I know I've been having issues with it |
| 14:38.54 | Kaelten | which means ie6 is only 5.83% |
| 14:38.57 | Kraps | the web dev at my company claims that ie6 is still the most used browser, so they are trying to code the new site for it |
| 14:39.00 | Wobin | beta isn't so bad |
| 14:39.00 | Kaelten | does a happy dance |
| 14:39.06 | Lopeppeppy | FF has been driving me nuts all during the 3.0.x phases. |
| 14:39.07 | Wobin | but, I'm only really using it for adblock |
| 14:39.15 | Wobin | if chrome has adblock, I'd switch =) |
| 14:39.17 | Kaelten | Wobin: I've switched to safari 4 |
| 14:39.24 | Adys | whats with adblock? |
| 14:39.32 | Adys | I mean |
| 14:39.35 | Wobin | does it have an adblock sort of thing? |
| 14:39.36 | Adys | I dont get people who just cant do without |
| 14:39.45 | Seerah | Kraps: are they claiming that in general, or is it actually still the most used browser for those that visit your company's website? |
| 14:39.48 | Kaelten | Wobin: don't know, haven't checked |
| 14:39.52 | Adys | also Wobin sort of |
| 14:39.53 | theorbtwo | Adys: Yes, and then everyone will switch to a new browser from the mozilla project, which is supposed to be lightweight, dropping the baggage from firefox. But, of course, since *everyone* wants to switch, they'll need to add all the baggage back in. |
| 14:39.56 | kd3 | yay, the f11 release candidate's done downloading |
| 14:40.02 | Kraps | Seerah: idk |
| 14:40.13 | theorbtwo | firefox was supposed to be the lightweight alternative to Mozilla, remember? |
| 14:40.14 | Adys | theorbtwo: except mozilla wont keep going |
| 14:40.15 | mikma | idkfa |
| 14:40.19 | Seerah | Kraps: because it might be true for your website's traffic |
| 14:40.20 | mikma | iddqd |
| 14:40.27 | foxlit | bbq? |
| 14:40.33 | Kraps | hmm |
| 14:40.35 | Adys | yea and mozilla the lightweight alternative to netscape or something |
| 14:40.35 | Adys | .. |
| 14:40.36 | Kaelten | theorbtwo: it is fairly light weight.... without any plugins |
| 14:40.44 | Adys | it is not |
| 14:40.52 | Adys | lets have a look at sysmon ! |
| 14:41.03 | Adys | lets see |
| 14:41.04 | Kaelten | lol |
| 14:41.06 | Adys | firefox with 7 tabs open |
| 14:41.08 | Adys | 433.5MB |
| 14:41.18 | Lopeppeppy | Baggage should all be addons, and make the user responsible for their own sucky experience, says I!!! |
| 14:41.19 | Adys | Chrome linux ALPHA, completely unoptimized and full of bugs |
| 14:41.21 | Adys | 10 tabs open |
| 14:41.22 | Adys | 20.5mb |
| 14:41.27 | Wobin | yeah =\ |
| 14:41.37 | Adys | chromium even |
| 14:41.38 | Kaelten | yeah, chrome is nuts |
| 14:42.09 | Adys | I laughed really hard when I heard of the chromium project |
| 14:42.20 | foxlit | the see-saw between "features" and "light-weight" works. |
| 14:42.24 | Adys | 3 months before I was thinking "dammit, google, release a browser based on webkit already" |
| 14:42.51 | theorbtwo | I really want a nice debian package of chromium. |
| 14:42.56 | Wobin | actually |
| 14:42.58 | Adys | theorbtwo: there are some PPAs |
| 14:43.00 | Wobin | ffb4 |
| 14:43.03 | Wobin | with 40 tabs |
| 14:43.06 | Adys | although, I dont know if they're updated atm |
| 14:43.08 | Wobin | is only consuming 350MB |
| 14:43.44 | Adys | let me see |
| 14:43.50 | mikma | wobin: you and your porn ^^ |
| 14:43.51 | Adys | start new session! firefox-3.5 |
| 14:43.58 | Wobin | inorite? =P |
| 14:44.08 | Adys | 40mb |
| 14:44.10 | Adys | 50mb |
| 14:44.12 | Adys | 58mb |
| 14:44.16 | Adys | 74mb. |
| 14:44.31 | Adys | 0 tabs open, new session, 75mb and stagnating... |
| 14:44.33 | Seerah | ff3.5?? |
| 14:44.35 | Adys | yes |
| 14:44.38 | Seerah | I only have 3.0.10 |
| 14:45.02 | Adys | lets load some flash! |
| 14:45.03 | Kaelten | Adys: I just wish i.e. would drop trident and use webkit |
| 14:45.12 | Adys | meh |
| 14:45.17 | Adys | if they actually fix trident, I dont care |
| 14:45.28 | Adys | i dont give a shit about rendering speed on others' computers |
| 14:45.34 | Adys | as long as it looks right |
| 14:45.35 | Kaelten | well I figure the liklihood of that is low |
| 14:45.48 | Adys | 1 tab open with flash, letting it load a bit... |
| 14:45.50 | Kaelten | and i figure the liklihood fo them dropping i.e. is even lower. |
| 14:46.07 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs fully loaded, 169.3MB |
| 14:46.30 | Seerah | ff3.0.11 - new session, one tab, but plenty of plugins - 73MB |
| 14:46.36 | Adys | zero plugin here |
| 14:47.28 | Seerah | 2 tabs now (one is that youtube vid) and the bunches of plugins: 91MB |
| 14:47.44 | Adys | OS? |
| 14:47.45 | Seerah | on XP |
| 14:47.53 | Adys | jaunty here |
| 14:48.09 | Seerah | jaunty? |
| 14:48.11 | Adys | meh whatever.. in 6 weeks I wont be using this stuff anymore |
| 14:48.21 | Kaelten | Seerah: ubuntu |
| 14:48.22 | Adys | chrome getting flash on nux in about 3 weeks |
| 14:48.25 | Seerah | granted, it's with adblock, so maybe that's something |
| 14:48.33 | Seerah | and noscript |
| 14:49.10 | Adys | on that video's note |
| 14:49.16 | Seerah | I have never ever seen FF use over 400MB, and that's even when something makes it bug out and my CPU jumps to 100% |
| 14:49.18 | Adys | I wont be using HDDs anymore soon enough |
| 14:49.26 | Kaelten | Adys: ok that page caused me to use 62.59 on safari 4 |
| 14:49.32 | Kaelten | which has a few memory leaks related to flash |
| 14:49.53 | Adys | gonna load a hundred tabs in chrome |
| 14:50.02 | Kaelten | 100 tabs of what? |
| 14:50.22 | Adys | that page |
| 14:50.26 | Adys | without flash, cant test it yet |
| 14:51.14 | Adys | oh my god the memory usage is jumping through the roof |
| 14:51.18 | Adys | Im almost above 25mb |
| 14:51.41 | Kaelten | I hit 163MB on safari 4 with 100 pages of the preview pag eopen |
| 14:51.56 | Kaelten | but that doesn't bother me as long as it stays responsive |
| 14:52.16 | Kaelten | that's really whats important to me |
| 14:52.44 | Adys | its going down if anything |
| 14:52.48 | Adys | the more tabs i have open |
| 14:53.16 | Adys | yeah this is sick |
| 14:53.30 | theorbtwo | Oh, good, it looks like Ubuntu might be close enough to Debian for this to work. |
| 14:54.18 | Adys | hold on lemme SS |
| 14:54.42 | Kraps | trolls + logic = does not compute http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16473975449&sid=1 |
| 14:55.36 | Lopeppeppy | Never do, Kraps. |
| 14:55.53 | Seerah | Kraps: oh, that's a pro WM guy |
| 14:55.58 | Lopeppeppy | Want to bet how long until that thread is moved to the UI forum? |
| 14:56.02 | Adys | http://devcub.com/~adys/chrome.png |
| 14:56.02 | Kaelten | lol |
| 14:56.03 | Kaelten | "Let's not play the home version of I Want to be a Lawyer on the forums. " |
| 14:56.10 | Adys | just |
| 14:56.15 | Adys | kinda suck |
| 14:56.16 | Adys | sick. |
| 14:56.26 | Lopeppeppy | I adore Crepe. |
| 14:56.38 | Kaelten | Adys: what about chrome's memory tab |
| 14:56.46 | Adys | i closed it |
| 14:56.51 | Adys | but dunno if its implemented yet |
| 14:56.52 | Adys | lemme check |
| 14:57.01 | Kaelten | that's more informative iirc |
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| 14:57.42 | Adys | its not loading |
| 14:57.46 | Adys | not implemented i guess |
| 14:58.32 | Adys | meanwhile I opened firefox to check the image i just linked and Im up to 130mb |
| 14:59.13 | Kaelten | well iirc chrome works via multi processes |
| 14:59.22 | Kaelten | so checking the one proc isn't going to be a full ammount of memory used |
| 14:59.33 | Adys | theres no other proc running |
| 14:59.42 | zenzelezz | this whole discussion reminds me very much of WoW UI fights. "zomg using 10 mb of memory" etc |
| 14:59.58 | Adys | because |
| 15:00.03 | Adys | I want to have a browser open at all times |
| 15:00.13 | Adys | even when Im in wow, in gimp, in whatever |
| 15:00.19 | Adys | and NOT lag like shit |
| 15:00.46 | zenzelezz | I have Firefox with lots of tabs open, Visual C++, WoW, and some other stuff... still works fine |
| 15:01.19 | DWSR | I have 4GB of memory. |
| 15:01.27 | DWSR | Watch my epeen grow! |
| 15:02.15 | Adys | Im watching your epeen take up all memory |
| 15:03.04 | Lopeppeppy | You guys remember that computer performance varies from computer to computer? And that what I can run fabulously, Seerah can't, because we have two different systems, and the moon is in Venus or whatever other factor you want to consider? |
| 15:03.24 | Seerah | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 15:03.35 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: like I said, same shit as with the WoW UI/addon fights |
| 15:03.56 | zenzelezz | you either agree, or we will try to fight you into submission by repeating our arguments |
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| 15:04.45 | Lopeppeppy | Yuppers, zenzelezz. |
| 15:06.52 | Kraps | a NEs fronflips are rng eh? |
| 15:08.11 | Lopeppeppy | What was that, in English please? *confused* |
| 15:08.20 | Adys | Kraps: they are |
| 15:08.26 | Adys | except |
| 15:08.36 | Adys | the correct english way to say it is they are RG'd |
| 15:08.47 | Adys | if you absolutely want to use an abbreviation |
| 15:08.56 | Lopeppeppy | And what is "RG'd" ? |
| 15:09.01 | Adys | randomly generated |
| 15:09.03 | chronx | randomly generated? |
| 15:09.32 | Seerah | if you jump with a NE female, the chance that you will do a flip instead of a normal jump is random |
| 15:09.34 | chronx | does anyone know how to make the corner of a frame draggable? But instead of simply resizing the frame i need it to re-scale the frame |
| 15:09.52 | krka | i consider frontflips to be random number generators |
| 15:10.29 | Lopeppeppy | In addition, what you see may be different than what others see. My SO used to say, "That was an awesome flip!" and I'd be like... "You did not flip" |
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| 15:10.58 | Adys | Lopeppeppy: I'm quite sure the flips are serverside |
| 15:11.21 | Adys | they might be generated clientside, and sent as-is serverside |
| 15:11.36 | Adys | for some time during beta there was a "highest amount of be/ne flips in a row" |
| 15:11.37 | Adys | stat |
| 15:12.16 | chronx | hmm... when i wear my murloc costume and jump theres a chance for him to land on his face... and thats strictly a clientside proc |
| 15:12.32 | Kraps | and why do only NEs get flips >:( |
| 15:12.49 | chronx | not everyone sees the same result for any given jump, i mean |
| 15:12.50 | zenzelezz | so people would have a reason to play one |
| 15:13.04 | Adys | chronx: how long ago did you test? |
| 15:13.27 | chronx | last patch i tested |
| 15:13.42 | Adys | hm |
| 15:13.45 | Adys | might have been changed |
| 15:13.55 | Adys | or changed during beta |
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| 15:14.41 | Kraps | zenzelezz: heh, i think druid id reason enough |
| 15:14.56 | Kraps | s/id/is/ |
| 15:15.07 | Kraps | HOLY CRAP |
| 15:15.24 | Kraps | thats just wrong! |
| 15:15.31 | Seerah | hehe |
| 15:15.39 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle* |
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| 15:15.45 | Seerah | sounds like purl needs a tune-up |
| 15:16.08 | Adys | looks correct to me |
| 15:18.52 | Zamoria | forums blow up? |
| 15:18.58 | chronx | looks like it |
| 15:19.03 | Lopeppeppy | Again? |
| 15:19.17 | Lopeppeppy | I know they were doing rolling restarts today, sometimes that buggers the forum auth. too. |
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| 15:22.29 | kd3 | so glad I'm a mage |
| 15:22.41 | kd3 | port here, port there... la-de-da, more children's week quests done |
| 15:23.08 | Seerah | yeah.... isn't it wonderful? :D |
| 15:23.08 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr, kd3. :) |
| 15:23.12 | zenzelezz | you make me miss my fixer in Anarchy Online |
| 15:25.57 | Kraps | agi = dodge but dodge != agi right? |
| 15:26.12 | chronx | right |
| 15:26.17 | Kraps | k |
| 15:26.33 | Kraps | cat form here i come! |
| 15:27.20 | chronx | note: dragging a frame with 961 buttons on it tends to make the interface extremely laggy |
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| 15:28.17 | Zamoria | taps "her" foot as "she" waits for en_windows_7_ultimate_rc_x86_dvd_349010.iso |
| 15:28.18 | Lopeppeppy | Ya think? :P |
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| 15:31.11 | chronx | My buttons still don't work properly :|. I CreateFrame() a button and then set 3 each state (normal, pushed, mouseover) to 3 images that I've created and when i mousedown only the button the highlight texture is displayed still |
| 15:31.32 | chronx | then set each state* |
| 15:32.01 | chronx | i mousedown on the button* sigh |
| 15:35.48 | kneeki | So... |
| 15:36.04 | kneeki | Because I know that 'if i == 6 or i == 12 or i == 18 or ...' all the way up to 60 is NOT the best way to do it, any suggestions? |
| 15:36.20 | kd3 | i%6 == 0 |
| 15:36.20 | zenzelezz | math.fmod or some such |
| 15:36.27 | chronx | modulus |
| 15:36.28 | Kraftman | chronx: pastey? |
| 15:36.31 | kd3 | or whatever the mod operator is in lua |
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| 15:36.50 | kneeki | kd3, lol... So easy, yet so easily over looked |
| 15:37.12 | zenzelezz | not nice of you to call kd3 "easy" |
| 15:37.44 | kd3 | >.> |
| 15:37.45 | kneeki | lol |
| 15:37.47 | kd3 | <.< |
| 15:38.00 | ckknight | lulz |
| 15:39.08 | Kalroth | The truth comes from drunks and kids! |
| 15:40.20 | ZorbaTHut | hey ckknight, did you get that email I sent while my computer was melted? :) |
| 15:40.29 | ckknight | not sure I did |
| 15:40.31 | ckknight | what's up? |
| 15:40.36 | ckknight | also, melted? |
| 15:40.45 | ZorbaTHut | one sec, trying to dig out a link |
| 15:40.49 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 15:40.50 | ckknight | got it |
| 15:40.53 | ZorbaTHut | ah cool |
| 15:40.55 | ckknight | yea |
| 15:41.04 | ZorbaTHut | capacitor-plague killed the motherboard. it was unfortunate. |
| 15:41.06 | ckknight | I'll see if I can get to it |
| 15:41.07 | ckknight | dang. |
| 15:41.13 | ckknight | ZorbaTHut: I blame WowMatrix. |
| 15:41.13 | ZorbaTHut | and the graphics card |
| 15:41.25 | ZorbaTHut | and then when I tried to copy the hard drive off, my external hard drive bay almost caught on fire |
| 15:41.25 | kd3 | cap plague? |
| 15:41.25 | ckknight | amidoinitrite? |
| 15:41.26 | kd3 | still? |
| 15:41.30 | ZorbaTHut | also, my spare CD drive stopped working |
| 15:41.36 | ckknight | dang. |
| 15:41.41 | ZorbaTHut | and when I got everything plugged in again, my monitor started flaking out |
| 15:41.41 | kd3 | it's freaking 2009. shouldn't they have all died by now? |
| 15:41.43 | ZorbaTHut | it has been an Event. |
| 15:42.03 | ZorbaTHut | kd3, they fail based on time used, so if you're getting old devices, sometimes they'll just be lurking with bad caps |
| 15:42.23 | ZorbaTHut | unfortunately the only mobo I could put in that case was the same model that I've already had two of die, so, it was an almost-complete new computer |
| 15:42.59 | chronx | Kraftman: simple example is www.pastey.net/113399 you'll have to find other textures to use though :| |
| 15:43.19 | Kraps | i need help setting up dominoes with a druid |
| 15:43.31 | chronx | the button works in that it displays the clickedtexture but it's not visible because the highlight texture covers it |
| 15:43.50 | Kraftman | you could make your own button i guess |
| 15:44.05 | chronx | ? thats what i did? |
| 15:44.26 | Kraftman | i mean |
| 15:44.37 | Kraps | halp |
| 15:44.58 | Kraftman | hmm.. like making the pushed functionality yourself using OnEnter, OnMouseDown, etc |
| 15:46.24 | Kraps | anyone? |
| 15:46.53 | chronx | does dominoes even support stance changing kinda stuff? |
| 15:47.05 | Kraps | yes |
| 15:47.19 | Kraps | worked fine for bear form |
| 15:47.45 | Kraps | now i got cat and all 3 stances are messed up |
| 15:48.03 | Kraftman | imo dont page with druids, just use macros that have stance conditionals, that way you can still heal etc |
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| 15:49.55 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1, do you have that attribution I gave you for the kid-kissing-pig photo yesterday? |
| 15:50.21 | ScytheBlade1 | attribution? No idea who actually made it, no |
| 15:50.30 | Lopeppeppy | Link? |
| 15:50.57 | ScytheBlade1 | slow site is slow |
| 15:50.57 | ScytheBlade1 | sec |
| 15:51.10 | Lopeppeppy | I found it, I finally remembered which girlfriend posted it. |
| 15:51.35 | ScytheBlade1 | http://imgur.com/27K39.jpg |
| 15:51.37 | ScytheBlade1 | .. oh |
| 15:51.37 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 15:51.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Well have it anyway |
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| 15:52.38 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you. *hug* |
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| 15:55.31 | Nuckin | so whats with these new curse premium accounts? |
| 15:55.41 | Lopeppeppy | Nothing much, Nuckin. |
| 15:55.54 | Lopeppeppy | There's two clients now, the premium allows you to "download all", the regular doesn't. |
| 15:56.38 | Zamoria | http://www.curse.com/content/PremiumFAQ.aspx |
| 15:57.04 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, see, Zamoria rocks. |
| 15:57.06 | nicoli_s | there is not two clients really |
| 15:57.12 | nicoli_s | the premium just adds functionality |
| 15:57.26 | nicoli_s | update all, automatic updates, no ads |
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| 15:57.53 | Lopeppeppy | The average person sees that as "two clients", I guess I'm still speaking "forum sheeple easy talk" |
| 15:57.54 | nicoli_s | plus more stuff, and even more stuff in the future |
| 15:58.05 | nicoli_s | well when i hear 2 clients, i think 2 apps |
| 15:58.32 | Lopeppeppy | And most sheeple think that different features = two different apps. I'm just very used to interpreting downward for sheeple. |
| 15:59.06 | Duman | hmm, forums are still toast? |
| 16:00.00 | ScytheBlade1 | wow, fun network issues: http://pastey.net/113400 |
| 16:00.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: i'm curious as to how brain dead you have to be to get from "shareware style functionality" to "two different applications" >.> |
| 16:00.23 | ScytheBlade1 | glad that isn't my router |
| 16:00.34 | Lopeppeppy | NHTS, you *know* how stupid sheeple are, come on. |
| 16:01.07 | NightHawkTheSane | I do, and I hate to say it, but.. this still surprises me. The concept of shareware is not nwe. |
| 16:01.27 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeple rarely have computer knowledge to use when trying to comprehend stuff. |
| 16:01.47 | chronx | you sure seem to like the word "sheeple" |
| 16:01.56 | NightHawkTheSane | if the shoe fits. :P |
| 16:02.02 | Duman | nice routing loop |
| 16:02.05 | Lopeppeppy | I work with them, every single day. I'm rather fond of them. But as NHTS says, if the shoe fits. |
| 16:02.29 | Zamoria | wonders if we'll hear from Steeljaw today :. |
| 16:02.34 | Zamoria | s/:./:>/ |
| 16:03.32 | Zamoria | (assuming forums ever return) |
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| 16:05.47 | chronx | Why doesn't :GetHighlightTexture() return anything useful? |
| 16:05.55 | Kraftman | chronx: try this http://www.pastey.net/113403 |
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| 16:06.53 | chronx | Kraftman: I think thats what i might have to do for all my buttons :< |
| 16:07.08 | Zamoria | RL ouroboros... http://g.imagehost.org/0632/snake.jpg |
| 16:07.14 | Kraftman | what do you mean? |
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| 16:08.05 | chronx | all the buttons i use have 3 separate images for each state... so if i want any of my mousedown'd buttons to show a mousedown state then i'll have to do what you did in the pastey and cheat kinda |
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| 16:09.18 | chronx | well, not cheating, i suppose, because thats most likely exactly what the :SetHighlightTexture() and :SetPressedTexture() do already |
| 16:09.22 | kergoth | hey all |
| 16:09.34 | Kraftman | you can just inherit from that frame |
| 16:10.29 | chronx | The question i have though is: how do i clear a "script" thats set with SetScript() |
| 16:11.14 | Kraftman | SetScript overwrites other scripts if they already exist |
| 16:18.19 | zenzelezz | SetScript() it to nil or something like that? |
| 16:18.31 | Hirsute | Anyone aware of any addon/website combinations that will record my known recipes while I'm in-game, parse the SV and give access to view them while out of game? |
| 16:18.41 | Kraftman | SetScript("MyEvent", nil) |
| 16:18.59 | durcyn | Hirsute: well, there's the wowroster stuff, but it's a bit heavy |
| 16:19.11 | Kraftman | or SetScript("MyEvent", function() overwritingstuff end) |
| 16:19.30 | Hirsute | durcyn: Fair enough. I'm using Skillet, maybe I'll just parse its SV file and make my own local script to do it. |
| 16:19.52 | durcyn | Hirsute: you might be able to pull it out of the curse or wowhead profilers, though |
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| 16:20.38 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:20.40 | Hirsute | *nod* Looks like all the information I need is in this skillet SV file, and very easily readable, so I'll probably just do that. |
| 16:20.42 | Hirsute | Hey Lunessa |
| 16:20.44 | Hirsute | How goes? |
| 16:20.55 | Lunessa | It goes. |
| 16:21.11 | Lunessa | Anyone else notice you lose credit for Children's Week stuff? |
| 16:21.16 | Lopeppeppy | You what? |
| 16:21.35 | Lopeppeppy | OMG, did the rolling restarts do a time warp? |
| 16:21.36 | Lunessa | I got the "Home Alone" achievement. Then, 45 mins later, I didn't have it. |
| 16:21.37 | Hirsute | Lunessa: For achievements? |
| 16:21.57 | Hirsute | Interesting. I haven't had a chance to log on for the children's week stuff yet. |
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| 16:22.29 | Lunessa | And completing 2 dailies with my orphan out gave 0 credit. |
| 16:22.34 | NightHawkTheSane | does a jump to the left? |
| 16:23.04 | Lopeppeppy | Fan frikin tabulous, Lunessa. I was going to try to do some of that tonight. |
| 16:23.55 | kamdis | takes a step to the right. |
| 16:24.01 | Lunessa | I finished the Azeroth Children's Week stuff, so let's see what happens with my Outland orphan later. |
| 16:24.03 | Jamash | puts his hands on his hips. |
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| 16:24.12 | Lunessa | pulls his knees in tight |
| 16:24.31 | Lopeppeppy | I am seriously not going there. :P |
| 16:24.35 | Jamash | haha |
| 16:24.35 | durcyn | the Home Alone achievement is bugged and resets every time you log out |
| 16:24.55 | Lunessa | OMG /hate |
| 16:25.03 | Lopeppeppy | Frakkin' annoying. |
| 16:25.36 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> they should just cancel childrens' week. Fuck the orphans. |
| 16:25.48 | durcyn | and daily chores seems to have some of the same problem as a daily re-quest did, only works on the first daily you do and doesn't work on random dailies like cooking/fishing |
| 16:26.03 | durcyn | not sure if it still resets when you join a battleground like the other one did |
| 16:26.18 | Lunessa | Great. |
| 16:26.24 | durcyn | either way, good job, blizzard |
| 16:26.31 | Lunessa | At least I got Hail to the King, baby. |
| 16:26.51 | durcyn | the bad example and battleground achievemens work though! |
| 16:26.54 | durcyn | +t |
| 16:28.17 | kamdis | screenshot of me getting Damage Control in OS: http://i41.tinypic.com/2q3sqkg.jpg stupid achievements |
| 16:28.18 | NightHawkTheSane | sweet. so i can not only frustrate myself doing idiotic pvp achievements, but frustrate myself not doing the other ones. |
| 16:29.00 | durcyn | NHTS: honestly, the BG ones aren't hard, since everyone on both sides is trying to do them |
| 16:29.14 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIJvECLL5NY |
| 16:29.18 | NightHawkTheSane | er, how does that make it less hard? |
| 16:29.36 | durcyn | because they're not trying to kill you, at least not as much, shrug |
| 16:29.41 | foxlit | Meh. |
| 16:29.58 | durcyn | though I did have some paladin BOP me while I was trying to get the AB part done, that was irksome |
| 16:30.04 | NightHawkTheSane | sure, but the 10-20 other people on your side are trying to do the exact same thing as you |
| 16:30.08 | NightHawkTheSane | in the exact same place, generlaly |
| 16:30.11 | foxlit | You try doing *anything* in a battleground while everything kills you in two shots |
| 16:30.26 | durcyn | say what you will, i finished it in under an hour |
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| 16:30.44 | NightHawkTheSane | hopefully i'm wrong. |
| 16:31.21 | NightHawkTheSane | but i see it as basically a crapshoot whether you click before one of the six other people right next to you |
| 16:31.27 | foxlit | There are two ways to do the achievement easily: (1) Outgear everyone else (2) Be a jerk to other people |
| 16:33.07 | Lunessa | foxlit: Option 2 is the more popular. |
| 16:33.26 | kamdis | And easier. |
| 16:34.33 | Lunessa | Armory seems borked. Can't search for myself. |
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| 16:35.35 | Adys | http://www.lemondrop.com/2009/05/01/hot-rat-on-cat-on-dog-action/ |
| 16:37.49 | Adys | (NSFC) |
| 16:39.11 | zenzelezz | C? |
| 16:39.18 | foxlit | chairs |
| 16:39.40 | Ackis | children? |
| 16:39.44 | Ackis | canadians? |
| 16:39.49 | kamdis | cats? |
| 16:39.49 | Ackis | Cairenn's? |
| 16:39.51 | NightHawkTheSane | cthulu |
| 16:41.16 | Wobin | hehe |
| 16:41.25 | Wobin | I'm totally selling ridiculous numbers of cake on the AH |
| 16:41.29 | Wobin | at 100g a pop |
| 16:41.38 | kamdis | wow |
| 16:42.10 | kergoth | cake? |
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| 16:42.26 | Duman | whoa... Danny Gans died |
| 16:42.37 | foxlit | yeah. |
| 16:42.40 | foxlit | Profits! |
| 16:42.44 | Wobin | Delicious Chocolate Cake |
| 16:42.49 | foxlit | (but meh, farming eggs/mageweave is unappealing) |
| 16:42.57 | Lopeppeppy | What on earth is is good for? |
| 16:43.01 | foxlit | er, mageroyal |
| 16:43.11 | foxlit | Lopeppeppy: epeen points |
| 16:43.18 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, those. Gotcha |
| 16:43.37 | Wobin | It's for a Children's Week achievement |
| 16:43.47 | Wobin | yeah |
| 16:43.53 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, gotta feed the little wankers, do we? |
| 16:44.01 | Wobin | I've farmed about 400 mageroyal |
| 16:44.03 | Zamoria | ckknight: is there a way to make the cart3 arrow appear on top of party members' dots? |
| 16:44.06 | Wobin | er wait |
| 16:44.09 | Wobin | no, not that many |
| 16:44.20 | Wobin | that many eggs =P |
| 16:44.22 | ckknight | Zamoria: yea, right-click em, waypoint to party member |
| 16:44.27 | Wobin | half that much mageroyal |
| 16:45.01 | Zamoria | ckknight: i mean the teardrop shape on the map itself... it's covered up by party member dots so i can't see what direction i'm facing |
| 16:45.29 | ckknight | oh |
| 16:45.30 | ckknight | that one |
| 16:45.30 | ckknight | hmm |
| 16:45.37 | ckknight | file a ticket |
| 16:45.42 | ckknight | that's slightly complex |
| 16:45.44 | Zamoria | kk |
| 16:47.21 | kamdis | Morning Seerah. :) |
| 16:47.24 | Duman | ~fail forums |
| 16:47.25 | purl | forums, you Fail! |
| 16:47.31 | Seerah | morning kamdis |
| 16:47.42 | NightHawkTheSane | clubbing baby seals! http://www.flickr.com/photos/12165440@N04/3481728389/ |
| 16:47.59 | Seerah | hehe |
| 16:48.01 | ckknight | lulz, NightHawkTheSane |
| 16:48.03 | Seerah | I like the one rolling over |
| 16:49.09 | erikd | any of you happen to know of a good technical documentation tool? (something that's generic enough to do stored procedures to code) |
| 16:49.23 | erikd | i'm doing it in open office atm but it's really annoying |
| 16:52.10 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, http://eguiders.com/exclusive/8-simpson-chalkboard-gags-that-should-ve-landed-bart-in-prison-not-detention |
| 16:54.08 | Zamoria | grumbles |
| 16:54.19 | Adys | Fisker-: http://devcub.com/~adys/patron.jpg |
| 16:54.28 | Zamoria | wrote up a ticket, chose a different ticket type and it erased everything I wrote |
| 16:54.36 | Zamoria | >< |
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| 16:57.57 | foxlit | wtb flights linking azuremyst and the rest of kalimdor |
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| 16:59.07 | Lunessa | OMG - Glowing bars must DIE DIE DIE |
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| 17:00.41 | Lopeppeppy | Glowing bars? |
| 17:01.04 | foxlit | Glowing bears, surely. |
| 17:01.58 | ckknight | rawr |
| 17:02.01 | Lunessa | Seriously, glowing or "litestep" textures are anathema to me. |
| 17:03.11 | foxlit | link things |
| 17:03.28 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, yeah, those. |
| 17:03.52 | kamdis | shiny status bar textures are Lunessa's kryptonite? |
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| 17:04.42 | Lunessa | No. My kryptonite is Tequila and naked women, but I endure what I must to protect Truth, Justice, and the American Way. |
| 17:06.34 | NightHawkTheSane | glowing tequila bears! |
| 17:07.22 | kergoth | that reminds me (the textures, not the tequila). does !SurfaceControl work nowadays, or anything similar, for globally messing with texture settings for sharedmedia mods, instead of having to change them one by one? |
| 17:10.04 | Seerah | dunno - try it and let us know if it still works |
| 17:10.11 | kergoth | heh :) |
| 17:10.19 | Kaelten | can wow even play wma's |
| 17:10.22 | kergoth | returned to wow after a year or so absence |
| 17:10.32 | ScytheBlade1 | nope |
| 17:10.35 | ScytheBlade1 | mp3 and wav |
| 17:10.37 | Seerah | Kaelten: .mp3 or .wav |
| 17:10.39 | Kaelten | didn't think so |
| 17:10.48 | Kaelten | had someone try to upload a sound pack that contains a wma |
| 17:10.54 | Seerah | lol |
| 17:10.59 | foxlit | Find out what zmod supports |
| 17:10.59 | Kaelten | holy shit it's 335MB |
| 17:11.02 | Seerah | wma is windows media audio |
| 17:11.07 | Kaelten | Seerah: yeah |
| 17:11.18 | foxlit | or fmod! |
| 17:11.18 | kergoth | ah, surfacecontrol was updated for 3.0.2.. will have to try it when i get home :) |
| 17:12.02 | foxlit | "FMOD Ex supports the following audio formats: AIFF, ASF, ASX, DLS, FLAC, FSB, IT, M3U, MID, MOD, MP2, MP3, OGG, PLS, RAW, S3M, VAG, WAV, WAX, WMA, XM, XMA" |
| 17:12.26 | Seerah | foxlit: sure, other programs *support* it :p |
| 17:13.03 | foxlit | Seerah: you mean "sure, the sound engine WoW uses *supports* it" :) |
| 17:13.18 | Seerah | ~tickle foxlit |
| 17:13.19 | purl | ACTION jumps on foxlit, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 17:13.51 | ArrowmasterClass | Kaelten: wow on windows apparently can but its still best to block them imho |
| 17:14.23 | NightHawkTheSane | (nobody really likes wma anyway) |
| 17:14.36 | ArrowmasterClass | no we dont |
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| 17:17.49 | Kaelten | windows will? |
| 17:17.51 | Kaelten | that's jus twrong |
| 17:18.56 | Lopeppeppy | afk sheeple |
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| 17:33.13 | MentalPower | ArrowmasterClass: why block it? |
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| 17:34.41 | ArrowmasterClass | MentalPower: because it wont universally work on all wow installs |
| 17:35.41 | DWSR | Anyone that has experience with Windows and ICS? |
| 17:36.12 | DWSR | Once again, ##windows fail. |
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| 17:39.13 | MentalPower | ArrowmasterClass: by that same token you should block OGG since it wont work on macs, or AIFF since it won't work on windows |
| 17:39.43 | DWSR | MentalPower: AIFF works on Windows. |
| 17:39.48 | MentalPower | I think a disclaimer by the author that it only works on X should suffice, and it should not be up to the sites to dictate that it should work for all |
| 17:39.56 | MentalPower | DWSR: in WoW? |
| 17:40.04 | DWSR | MentalPower: Ah, sorry. |
| 17:40.09 | DWSR | Didn't readup |
| 17:40.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Quick question, moronically simple web-based cms, go! :P |
| 17:40.26 | DWSR | NightHawkTheSane: rm -rf / |
| 17:40.28 | DWSR | :P |
| 17:40.33 | MentalPower | wiki :P |
| 17:40.37 | Lunessa | Wait, somoneis uploading WMA files as part of an AddOn? |
| 17:40.49 | NightHawkTheSane | MentalPower: there's lots of them, got a suggestion? :P |
| 17:41.18 | MentalPower | mediawiki |
| 17:41.34 | NightHawkTheSane | bah, i kinda wanted something much simpler |
| 17:41.43 | MentalPower | simpler in what sense? |
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| 17:42.03 | MentalPower | I guess it depends on what you're going to use it for |
| 17:42.22 | DWSR | tbh, everything supports FLAC. |
| 17:42.23 | DWSR | kthxbai |
| 17:42.31 | DWSR | :P |
| 17:42.38 | Thunder_Child | i dont support FLAC |
| 17:42.49 | DWSR | well then you're nothing. |
| 17:42.52 | DWSR | ZING! :P |
| 17:42.52 | Thunder_Child | neither does itunes |
| 17:43.01 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: Wrong, iTunes does support FLAC. |
| 17:43.03 | NightHawkTheSane | I mostly just want to store generally text-based info, mediawiki is nice, but i dont really want or need all the fluff and stuff that comes with it |
| 17:43.17 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, wont let me drop them in |
| 17:43.23 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: You fail. |
| 17:43.31 | DWSR | Windows or HackOS? |
| 17:43.40 | Thunder_Child | also DWSR, where is that pitbull checkbox you were refering to |
| 17:43.41 | Thunder_Child | windows |
| 17:43.45 | MentalPower | if you want pictures, go with gallery2, if you want a repository of random knowledge mediawiki, if you want to open your mind to the world use some blog-like stuff |
| 17:43.47 | alestane | When my backup software says it is "reticulating splines", does anyone out there understand what that actually MEANS? |
| 17:43.52 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: Search Flac in iTunes. |
| 17:44.03 | DWSR | alestanes: What software is that? |
| 17:44.10 | DWSR | alestane: I think it's just f***ing with you |
| 17:44.18 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: yes. It's there to entertain you while it does its thing, in order to pass the time. Seems that it worked great |
| 17:44.21 | durcyn | alestane: it's a simcity joke reference |
| 17:44.28 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 17:44.30 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 17:44.32 | DWSR | ^^^ |
| 17:44.40 | alestane | MzoyBackup. |
| 17:44.42 | Seerah | ^^^^ |
| 17:44.45 | alestane | MozyBackup* |
| 17:45.08 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: What checkbox in Pitbull are you referring to? |
| 17:45.10 | foxlit | Hm. |
| 17:45.17 | foxlit | Blessing of O'ros and Tasty Cupcake |
| 17:45.32 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, the one that removes your party in a raid before you have 6 people |
| 17:45.34 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: simcity 2k (and maybe the original?) used that phrase while it was generating random terrain. It doesn't mean anything, but sounds important. :P |
| 17:45.47 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: Oh. Can't login to WoW right now, but I'll let you know |
| 17:45.52 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: You reg'ed with services? |
| 17:45.55 | NightHawkTheSane | your backup software is making an (awesome) homage. :P |
| 17:46.09 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, no since i have no idea what you are talking about |
| 17:46.16 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: /msg nickserv help |
| 17:46.22 | Thunder_Child | then yes |
| 17:46.25 | alestane | Splines, at least are relevant to terrain generation. I'm not sure reticulating is unless you're talking about pythons. |
| 17:46.49 | Thunder_Child | there are many services, IRC is just one. |
| 17:47.58 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: well, it's been noted that the phrase is generally non-sensical in it's original context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimCity_2000 |
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| 17:50.33 | alestane | Several other people also seem to think that Mozy uses "Reticulating Splines..." to mean "Busy doing something that you understand if I explained it." |
| 17:50.39 | Kraps | its fart of the sims games wacky humor |
| 17:50.49 | Kraps | ... |
| 17:50.52 | DWSR | rofl |
| 17:50.55 | Kraps | PART |
| 17:51.07 | Wobin | >< |
| 17:51.16 | Wobin | I thought you were referring to some obscure toilet humour =P |
| 17:51.23 | Thunder_Child | you would |
| 17:51.32 | Wobin | That's because I think |
| 17:51.35 | Wobin | unlike you =) |
| 17:51.43 | Thunder_Child | with you're ass |
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| 17:51.51 | Thunder_Child | s/you're/your/ |
| 17:51.52 | Wobin | with my are ass what? |
| 17:51.57 | Thunder_Child | beat you |
| 17:52.05 | Wobin | failed the first time =P |
| 17:52.10 | Thunder_Child | with a stcik preferably |
| 17:52.15 | Thunder_Child | stick* |
| 17:52.18 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 17:52.24 | Wobin | quit while you're behind =) |
| 17:52.34 | Thunder_Child | not with your fart jokes |
| 17:52.40 | Wobin | I didn't make the joke |
| 17:52.44 | Wobin | Kraps did =P |
| 17:52.58 | Thunder_Child | but now your thinking of them |
| 17:53.11 | Kraps | IT WAS AN ACCIDENT |
| 17:53.15 | zenzelezz | his what? |
| 17:53.21 | Wobin | now my thinking of them? |
| 17:53.30 | alestane | SOme people just never get it: http://notalwaysright.com/sometimes-ignorance-really-is-bliss/1885 |
| 17:53.46 | Thunder_Child | yes Wobin, exactly |
| 17:53.52 | Kraps | running around darkshore makes you do stuff |
| 17:54.04 | Wobin | goodnight all |
| 17:54.07 | Wobin | except TC |
| 17:54.19 | Thunder_Child | i know Wobin, it's not night here, so ty |
| 17:56.39 | Kraps | “For the flight to Chicago, the wind is at your back, so the plane goes really fast. On the way back, it’s against the wind, and so the plane goes slower.” |
| 17:56.41 | Kraps | RLY |
| 17:57.34 | Lopeppeppy | Fer sher. |
| 17:58.32 | Lunessa | alestane: This one is better: http://notalwaysright.com/that-hot-tub-had-better-be-filled-with-spermicide/1559 |
| 17:59.28 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, that's my city. :) |
| 17:59.59 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Well, maybe I should move there since young girls in hot tubs can't get pregnant. :P |
| 18:00.06 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh, upstate ny... |
| 18:00.27 | Lunessa | I have relatives there. It's why I avoid the area. |
| 18:00.30 | alestane | Albany's barely upstate IMO. |
| 18:00.31 | krka | Lunessa: atleast not if they're alone in the hot tub |
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| 18:01.02 | Lopeppeppy | But... Peppy is also here, Lunessa. |
| 18:01.25 | Dashkal | http://notalwaysright.com/a-strong-case-for-reproductive-licensing/19 |
| 18:01.43 | Lunessa | Yes, but it's like living in a giant, dark, scary cave because one pretty, shiny, happy LED is on. |
| 18:02.00 | Lopeppeppy | sparkles. |
| 18:02.24 | alestane | YOU SAVED MY FIRE MONKEY! |
| 18:02.40 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucYv1zX13zU << hm, an actual improvement on the song. |
| 18:02.46 | Lunessa | NO! I WANT YOUR SPECIAL CHINESE RANCH! |
| 18:03.34 | Thunder_Child | "it works for me.4 languages: spanish-englisch-france and i think usa" |
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| 18:06.20 | Seerah | cries |
| 18:06.41 | Seerah | the rolling restart took away some of the chocolates I had eaten for the chocoholic achievement :( |
| 18:06.45 | Lopeppeppy | comforts Seerah. |
| 18:06.54 | Lopeppeppy | There's a LOT of that going around. |
| 18:07.03 | ArrowmasterClas1 | my tunnel keeps dying |
| 18:07.14 | Lopeppeppy | CPR? |
| 18:07.42 | Seerah | not to mention that sometimes it doesn't even *count* that I actually eat a chocolate... |
| 18:07.45 | Seerah | pouts |
| 18:07.56 | kamdis | ~hug Seerah |
| 18:07.57 | purl | ACTION hugs Seerah |
| 18:08.07 | Seerah | hugs kamdis |
| 18:08.10 | Lunessa | wants lunch. |
| 18:08.30 | Thunder_Child | http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/new_video_game_technology |
| 18:08.43 | Lopeppeppy | wants chocolate. |
| 18:09.04 | Lopeppeppy | I wish it didn't count IRL when I ate chocolate! |
| 18:09.13 | kamdis | So, would anyone have an ideas as to why my updated as of last night Pitbull3 keeps showing a borked version of the default rune frame right above it (not in the default location or anything)? |
| 18:09.22 | alestane | Just do s restart and take it off the ledger? |
| 18:09.26 | alestane | I have brownies left. |
| 18:09.28 | Seerah | hehe |
| 18:09.47 | Lopeppeppy | Brownies, I has none. |
| 18:09.56 | Lopeppeppy | I may make cookies tomorrow night, depending on when I go see Wolverine. |
| 18:09.59 | kamdis | damn it, now I want brownies. |
| 18:10.07 | Thunder_Child | kamdis, try pitbull 4 |
| 18:10.07 | kamdis | shakes her fist at alestane. |
| 18:10.10 | alestane | Behold my sinister powers. |
| 18:10.20 | DWSR | http://notalwaysright.com/burned-with-goblets-of-fire-no-doubt/1890 |
| 18:10.23 | Lopeppeppy | alestane is for taunting. Should get a warrior to shield bash him. |
| 18:10.31 | kamdis | I was under the impression that PB4 will make me lose my settings. |
| 18:10.37 | Thunder_Child | it will |
| 18:10.38 | kamdis | from PB3 |
| 18:10.43 | Thunder_Child | but it is still flawless |
| 18:10.45 | kamdis | yeah, that's not going to happen then :P |
| 18:10.46 | Thunder_Child | atm |
| 18:11.02 | Thunder_Child | you are going to have to configure it sometime |
| 18:11.03 | kamdis | i don't have it in me to try to make it look like tapestry's |
| 18:11.07 | kamdis | no i'm not :P |
| 18:11.22 | Lunessa | She'll just wait for Tap to do it. |
| 18:11.26 | kamdis | yes I will. |
| 18:11.28 | Thunder_Child | yes, it's eventually going to stop being updated in favor of 4 |
| 18:11.32 | kamdis | because i'm just lazy like that. |
| 18:11.57 | kamdis | T_C, I know. i just won't have to configure it myself. |
| 18:12.09 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/preserving-life-1-up-at-a-time/1880 |
| 18:12.09 | Zamoria | can't believe next year is 2010 |
| 18:12.11 | Thunder_Child | blinks at kamdis |
| 18:12.24 | Lunessa | http://notalwaysright.com/sorry-i-asked/767 |
| 18:13.14 | kamdis | grins at Thunder_Child. |
| 18:13.21 | Kraps | lol |
| 18:13.26 | kamdis | <- queen of lazy UI compilation use. |
| 18:13.34 | Thunder_Child | so i see |
| 18:13.41 | Lopeppeppy | kamdis, me too. *hangs head* |
| 18:13.59 | Lunessa | I roll my own! RAWR! |
| 18:14.04 | Lopeppeppy | You rock. |
| 18:14.09 | Lopeppeppy | I just sorta... don't. |
| 18:14.14 | Lunessa | Except I use someone else's oUF layout/ |
| 18:15.02 | Lopeppeppy | Been thinking of swapping to oUF too. |
| 18:15.51 | Shirik | "That player is logging out." |
| 18:15.55 | Shirik | I've never seen that error before |
| 18:16.40 | Lunessa | oUF is pretty handy, but you must configure everything in Lua. There's not options screen. And Haste will just wave you at the code if you ask questions. :P |
| 18:16.44 | Lopeppeppy | Huh. Interesting. |
| 18:16.49 | durcyn | usually happens when you try to trade with someone who's, you know, logging out. |
| 18:16.53 | Shirik | I noticed |
| 18:17.03 | Shirik | however the fact that he was jumping around implies to me that he wasn't logging out |
| 18:17.45 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, i'm surprised no one has written a frontend for it |
| 18:18.02 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: I think someone tried. |
| 18:18.44 | Fisker- | help me Shirik |
| 18:18.47 | Fisker- | ~karma Fisker- |
| 18:18.47 | purl | fisker- has karma of -2 |
| 18:18.48 | Fisker- | :( |
| 18:18.57 | Shirik | Fisker-, I saw your arena teams |
| 18:19.02 | Shirik | XD and Why So Serious |
| 18:19.05 | Shirik | so appropriate |
| 18:19.24 | Fisker- | Why so srs? :( |
| 18:19.45 | foxlit | Why so SARS? |
| 18:20.12 | Fisker- | true |
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| 18:22.34 | Fisker- | but halp me Shirik |
| 18:22.35 | Fisker- | HA:P |
| 18:22.36 | Fisker- | HALP |
| 18:23.52 | Shirik | Does the server validate achievements now or something? |
| 18:24.07 | foxlit | "Is there any chance on adding compatibility for Outfitter and Itemrack, in addition to ClosetGnome?" |
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| 18:25.03 | Fisker- | what do you mean Shirik ? |
| 18:25.11 | Shirik | if I link achievement |
| 18:25.14 | Shirik | and didn't really get it |
| 18:25.17 | Lunessa | oUF Smee2 has a config thing cobbled together for it. |
| 18:25.18 | Shirik | does the server tell me to gtfo |
| 18:25.39 | Fisker- | as far as i know it'll show the proper tooltip regardless if you modify it |
| 18:25.52 | durcyn | you know, making an ouf layout with an actual config wouldn't be that difficult, come to think of it |
| 18:26.50 | Shirik | I typed something wrong |
| 18:26.53 | Shirik | it works now |
| 18:26.58 | Fisker- | ~shirik-- |
| 18:26.59 | Fisker- | :( |
| 18:27.05 | Fisker- | you've given me no other choice |
| 18:27.24 | Lunessa | It shouldn't be all that hard. And it looks like jadakren (WoWI user name) made a damned good start of it. |
| 18:28.18 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/im-a-mac-with-reinforcements/1873 |
| 18:29.47 | Seerah | whoa |
| 18:31.08 | alestane | Some people are just batsh!t. |
| 18:31.42 | Lopeppeppy | Very true. |
| 18:34.24 | NightHawkTheSane | some? |
| 18:34.32 | Lopeppeppy | Not all. |
| 18:34.37 | NightHawkTheSane | most. :P |
| 18:36.01 | Lunessa | Peppy - if you want to try oUF - this might be a good place to start: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11078-oUF_Nivaya.html |
| 18:38.27 | Lopeppeppy | This, I favorite to look over later. Thank you! :) |
| 18:39.10 | Lunessa | :D |
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| 18:49.28 | kamdis | lol what's the inevitable outcome of the swine flu? a-pork-alypse! |
| 18:49.37 | Thunder_Child | i hate you kamdis |
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| 18:51.02 | kamdis | hate my guildie |
| 18:51.14 | Thunder_Child | your guildie didnt share it on IRC |
| 18:51.14 | kamdis | she posted it |
| 18:51.14 | kamdis | haha true |
| 18:51.14 | Thunder_Child | you reposted it |
| 18:51.14 | kamdis | but it's funny |
| 18:51.14 | kamdis | proudly! |
| 18:51.14 | kamdis | :P |
| 18:51.14 | Thunder_Child | puns are never funny |
| 18:51.14 | NightHawkTheSane | jesus kamdis, that joke was so bad, you caused a netsplit |
| 18:51.52 | kamdis | hahaha |
| 18:51.52 | kamdis | even prouder! |
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| 18:51.59 | kamdis | okay, how about this then? http://r.sine.com/swineflu |
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| 18:53.21 | NightHawkTheSane | this is pretty neat: http://www.macquebec.com/spip.php?article5281l |
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| 18:54.09 | alestane | I think HOrde have an easier time of [Shake Your Bunny-Maker] than alliance. |
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| 18:54.28 | kamdis | I didn't |
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| 18:54.41 | kamdis | damn female dwarf took me hours, even *in* IF. |
| 18:54.55 | alestane | Well, I suppose both sides need the same races, and they're equally scarce. |
| 18:55.05 | NightHawkTheSane | it was pretty easy for me. |
| 18:55.13 | alestane | But female orcs and trolls are tough too, and I was lucky to spot that tauren. |
| 18:55.23 | NightHawkTheSane | but when i did it there was a female orc & dwarf chilling by the well in dal, so |
| 18:55.29 | Industrial | female orc are pretty cool |
| 18:55.33 | NightHawkTheSane | <-- female troll :) |
| 18:55.34 | Industrial | I dont think their all that ugly :\ |
| 18:55.36 | alestane | And my wife and I both have female dwarf toons, so that one will be easy. |
| 18:55.36 | kamdis | those were pretty easy for me, given guild alts who helped by logging on. |
| 18:55.47 | kamdis | ah |
| 18:55.51 | augustl_ | could someone link me the wiki page that explains how you can color fontstrings with escape sequences? |
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| 18:56.30 | Industrial | augustl_: you should just ask how to color them, now we know you can seach for it yourself :p |
| 18:56.40 | Adys | I need a one-syllab synonym to the following words: Loot, Spider, Gather, Sniff, Recolt, Grab, Mine |
| 18:56.40 | Industrial | augustl_: its somewhere on wowwiki :D |
| 18:56.43 | Adys | any idea? |
| 18:56.45 | augustl_ | been searching around, haven't found it |
| 18:56.50 | augustl_ | searches moar |
| 18:57.03 | Industrial | dont mind me, i like making silly comments \:D/ |
| 18:57.07 | Industrial | fluffehs Fisker- |
| 18:57.14 | augustl_ | found it |
| 18:57.15 | augustl_ | \o/ |
| 18:57.21 | Industrial | :D |
| 18:58.55 | NightHawkTheSane | this amuses me, http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/018933.html |
| 18:59.25 | kamdis | loot and mine, nouns or verbs? |
| 18:59.40 | Adys | verbs |
| 18:59.42 | brykrys | fruit? |
| 19:00.04 | Adys | as in Looting, Spidering, Gathering, Sniffing, Recolting, Grabbing, Mining |
| 19:00.14 | kamdis | loot and grab are synonyms :| |
| 19:00.26 | Adys | yes Im asking for a synonym to all of those :P |
| 19:00.30 | kamdis | snatch, swipe, take |
| 19:00.49 | alestane | Pillage |
| 19:00.50 | Adys | considers snatch |
| 19:01.16 | kamdis | can be taken somewhat offensively in the U.S. |
| 19:01.19 | alestane | Oh, not one-syllable. |
| 19:01.20 | kamdis | but meh |
| 19:01.36 | Adys | the US can snatch my ass. |
| 19:01.43 | kamdis | lol |
| 19:01.45 | kamdis | just saying |
| 19:01.50 | augustl_ | hmm, how do you convert a rgb float to a hex? =/ |
| 19:02.00 | augustl_ | math >< |
| 19:02.05 | alestane | x255. |
| 19:02.08 | Adys | hex() |
| 19:02.09 | Adys | :p |
| 19:02.10 | kamdis | sack, perhaps, Adys? |
| 19:02.17 | augustl_ | looks up hex() |
| 19:02.25 | kamdis | though Brits have another meaning for that one too. |
| 19:02.25 | Adys | wait |
| 19:02.30 | Adys | hex() is python i think |
| 19:02.39 | Adys | i think ill go with snatch or mine kamdis |
| 19:02.41 | Kaelten | peggle gate |
| 19:02.42 | Kaelten | lol |
| 19:02.58 | Adys | augustl_: tonumber(x, 16) maybe |
| 19:03.09 | kamdis | cool :) |
| 19:03.25 | alestane | string.format("%h%h%h", color.r, color.g, color.b), or something like that. |
| 19:03.42 | augustl_ | ah, string.format |
| 19:03.51 | Adys | or that |
| 19:04.15 | alestane | tonumber will work if you have a string containing a hex value and you want to make it into a number. |
| 19:04.16 | durcyn | string.format("%02x%02x%02x", r*255, g*255, b*255) |
| 19:04.18 | durcyn | ^actually |
| 19:05.16 | alestane | right, it's %x. |
| 19:10.30 | Lunessa | "Is Strange Name there? Your web master?" Me: Is this a sales call? Them: "No." Me: "Are you a student looking for support?" Them: "No, I'm with E-Week magazine, a trade journal..." Me: "Right, Sales call. Goodbye." |
| 19:10.40 | Kaso | or %X if you want upper-case hex |
| 19:12.44 | Hirsute | For GetNumTradeSkills and GetTradeSkillInfo to work, the skill window needs to be open, correct? |
| 19:13.11 | augustl_ | is there a list of all the built-in fonts somewhere btw? |
| 19:13.12 | Shirik | gah |
| 19:13.15 | Shirik | why doesn't Java have real constants |
| 19:13.24 | Kraps | guess i need this for my cat http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42952 |
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| 19:14.04 | Shirik | yes you doKraps |
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| 19:15.20 | durcyn | augustl_: arialn, frizqt__, morpheus, and skurri |
| 19:16.28 | Lunessa | augustl_: http://clearfont.co.uk/readme.html |
| 19:16.42 | Shadowed | Shirik: Can you edit mod comments? :p |
| 19:16.49 | Shirik | I am god |
| 19:16.54 | Shirik | what do you need |
| 19:16.58 | augustl_ | hm, I probably ask the wrong question |
| 19:16.59 | Shadowed | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8063-Afflicted3.html#comments can you edit the last comments title |
| 19:17.08 | augustl_ | I'm thinking about the 3rd argument to CreateFontString, e.g. "GameFontNormal" |
| 19:17.08 | Shadowed | so it's not absurdly long, and breaks the layout when looking at the listing |
| 19:18.08 | Shirik | how's that? |
| 19:18.20 | Shadowed | perfect thanks :p |
| 19:18.37 | Shadowed | actually that would be a bug I guess, the titles aren't truncated |
| 19:18.47 | Shirik | I agree |
| 19:34.38 | zenzelezz | it really pisses me off that console controllers can transmit wirelessly by means that means the signals are picked up nearly whatever angle, direction or place you use it... but TV remotes still need you to stand two meters away, pointing directly at it |
| 19:35.20 | Hirsute | So, if I want to scan my tradeskill windows every time I open them, do I just post-hook the tradeskill window's OnShow() with my scanning function? |
| 19:36.27 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 19:36.49 | Hirsute | ScytheBlade1: Great, thanks! |
| 19:37.48 | ScytheBlade1 | and now to write 18 pages, due at midnight |
| 19:44.59 | Zamoria | zenzelezz: directv remote controls can be switched from IR to RF fwiw |
| 19:45.25 | zenzelezz | Zamoria: is that a brand or a technology? |
| 19:46.01 | Zamoria | zenzelezz: brand of satellite tv service (they have their own brand of receivers) |
| 19:46.17 | zenzelezz | ah, no good to me then |
| 19:46.26 | zenzelezz | just got a regular Lg remote |
| 19:46.37 | zenzelezz | *LG |
| 19:46.56 | durcyn | s/brand/rebadge |
| 19:50.42 | Zamoria | brand is still accurate... doesn't imply no one else has the same hardware ;) |
| 19:52.42 | Shadowed | Hirsute: Actually, no don't :p |
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| 19:52.56 | Shadowed | do you want to scan the actual UI, or tradeskill data? |
| 19:53.05 | Hirsute | Shadowed: The tradeskill data |
| 19:53.16 | Hirsute | What items the toon can make, etc. |
| 19:53.23 | Lunessa | Lovely. Someone hacked something together in ASP 9 years ago and it's been obsolete for almost that long... And it turns out someone here was still using it, and complained with it stopped working today. |
| 19:53.41 | Shadowed | You're better off using TRADE_SKILL_UPDATE then, because if someone uses a custom tradeskill mod (like, Skillet) then the main Blizzard tradeskill frame is never shown |
| 19:53.56 | Lopeppeppy | ... yeah. 10 year old programs tend to do that, Lunessa, tell them that aging is only good for wine and cheese. :) |
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| 19:54.30 | Hirsute | Shadowed: Ah, good to know. Hrm. I need to look that event up. |
| 19:54.39 | Shadowed | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Tradeskill |
| 19:54.44 | Shadowed | see TRADE_SKILL_CLOSE/SHOW as well |
| 19:54.45 | Lunessa | No one even knew the ASP pages and the database they talk to were even on the server. That's how long it's been. Oh, and the source code? Uncommented. Fuckers. |
| 19:55.51 | Hirsute | Shadowed: Ah, so I just register a frame for those events and run my scanner when the events fire. Even easier. |
| 19:55.57 | Shadowed | correct |
| 19:56.16 | Hirsute | Lunessa: Ick! |
| 19:57.07 | Lunessa | Seriously, this things shouldn't even exist, since the features it does are all part of the package the instructor uses to deliver her damned course anyway. /facepalm |
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| 19:57.25 | Lunessa | I swear to god, they save all this shit up for Friday when I'm the only one here. |
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| 19:58.38 | Lopeppeppy | ~comfort Lunessa |
| 19:58.39 | purl | There, there, Lunessa. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 19:58.56 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeple are.... frustrating and annoying and pay our bills. |
| 19:59.03 | Lunessa | is mollified, know that Lopeppeppy and purl still love him. |
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| 20:04.12 | Lopeppeppy | We does, darlin'. |
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| 20:07.37 | Shirik | Ok time for a survey |
| 20:07.47 | Lopeppeppy | is ready! |
| 20:07.53 | Shirik | I'm going through the security manager for Minion and I have to grant or deny various permissions |
| 20:07.57 | Shirik | from the Java documentation: |
| 20:07.59 | Shirik | Permission: createRobot. Risk of permission: The java.awt.Robot object allows code to generate native-level mouse and keyboard events as well as read the screen. It could allow malicious code to control the system, run other programs, read the display, and deny mouse and keyboard access to the user. |
| 20:08.07 | Shirik | I can't decide whether or not to allow it. Thoughts? |
| 20:09.22 | Shirik | I can see why it's dangerous, but restricting it would also block some neat functionality |
| 20:09.25 | Lopeppeppy | That's wicked over my head, I'm sorry. *hug* |
| 20:09.29 | Shirik | :( |
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| 20:11.06 | alestane | Depends on the environment you want it for, and how secure the ability to create one will be. |
| 20:11.32 | zenzelezz | at what point in the program does this decision take effect? Could it function as a configurable setting? |
| 20:11.38 | Shirik | It's for Minion (the upcoming WoWInterface updater) |
| 20:12.07 | Shirik | zenzelezz: I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean by "configurable" -- like allow the user to configure it? |
| 20:12.16 | alestane | I'd leave it out until you can be confident that you won't be creating a vessel for keyloggers. |
| 20:12.30 | zenzelezz | Shirik: yes |
| 20:12.54 | Shirik | I could make it user configurable, but that involves a lot of extra work; I could do that later |
| 20:13.00 | zenzelezz | "configurable" + "setting" was pretty poor grammar. |
| 20:13.42 | zenzelezz | personally I'd either let the user decide, or not grant it access; rather than expose it |
| 20:15.07 | alestane | Figure out exactly what value it will add, versus the risk. But assume first that it's bad, I'd say. |
| 20:15.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: i'd say unilaterally deny a permission until you decide you explicitly MUST have it. |
| 20:15.28 | Lopeppeppy | ^ |
| 20:15.34 | Lopeppeppy | I do that to sheeple all the time. :) |
| 20:15.42 | Lunessa | Shirik: If you're going to distribute it publicly, it WILL be abused. End of story. |
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| 20:15.53 | Shirik | heh ok :) |
| 20:16.31 | NightHawkTheSane | having something enabled that you don't need just creates more things to worry about. :) |
| 20:16.34 | Lunessa | You don't want to see a 12 page post comparing you to Rusher for infecting machines with trojans. :P |
| 20:16.56 | NightHawkTheSane | and trust me, Lunessa already has it typed up. *nod* ;) |
| 20:17.11 | Lunessa | Lies. I C/P from a the old ones. |
| 20:17.18 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 20:21.20 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
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| 20:29.21 | ScytheBlade1 | ha, yes @ http://www.picturesforsadchildren.com/index.php?comicID=263 |
| 20:32.21 | kamdis | the mouseover text on that is priceless |
| 20:33.12 | kamdis | http://www.choppingblock.org/d/20090428.html |
| 20:33.18 | NightHawkTheSane | still doesn't beat today's hover text on xkcd |
| 20:33.25 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the name of the comic, actually |
| 20:33.42 | kamdis | catch some plague? |
| 20:33.47 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 20:33.49 | ScytheBlade1 | well |
| 20:33.50 | kamdis | oh |
| 20:33.51 | kamdis | heh |
| 20:33.51 | ScytheBlade1 | That specific strip |
| 20:33.55 | kamdis | well |
| 20:33.58 | kamdis | it's still priceless :P |
| 20:34.03 | ScytheBlade1 | It is :) |
| 20:35.07 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.flickr.com/photos/wesaturtle/2989344823/ |
| 20:35.10 | NightHawkTheSane | fuck jp morgan. |
| 20:35.24 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.picturesforsadchildren.com/index.php?comicID=257 is also a good one |
| 20:35.57 | kamdis | hehe |
| 20:37.06 | Lunessa | http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20090501 - Only a man would write dialog like that for a female character. |
| 20:37.09 | NightHawkTheSane | http://notalwaysright.com/this-is-why-we-dont-color-code-people/1898 |
| 20:37.39 | Adys | No Lunessa |
| 20:37.41 | Adys | without clicking |
| 20:37.44 | Adys | just no |
| 20:37.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: s/man/tool/ |
| 20:37.57 | Adys | Lunessa: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1395 |
| 20:38.08 | Adys | only a man would write a dialogue like THAT |
| 20:38.12 | Adys | for female characters. |
| 20:38.14 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 20:38.16 | Industrial | I hate when I get killed by a max level that takes at least 20 seconds to stop walking, gaze, conclude I'm an enemy and low level, try and attack me, actually hit me and then one shot me |
| 20:38.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: and yet, its still good dialogue. or at least funny. |
| 20:38.30 | Industrial | >_< |
| 20:38.37 | Adys | NightHawkTheSane: QC wins |
| 20:38.57 | NightHawkTheSane | yarr |
| 20:39.51 | Ackis | if I turn in both my orphans, can I get another one to finish the achievements? |
| 20:40.01 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 20:40.06 | Adys | Ackis: think they hotfixed something like that this morning |
| 20:40.10 | Adys | i can tell you tomorrow |
| 20:40.12 | Adys | too lazy atm |
| 20:40.13 | NightHawkTheSane | its an orphanage, not a baby selling store! |
| 20:40.17 | NightHawkTheSane | you sick fuck. |
| 20:40.18 | Ackis | Adys: kk ty |
| 20:40.22 | durcyn | Ackis: you can get a new one after you do the turn in, yes |
| 20:40.27 | durcyn | both. |
| 20:40.39 | NightHawkTheSane | okay, so maybe it is a black market baby marketplace. |
| 20:40.47 | Ackis | i was kinda sad there was no dalaran orphan :( |
| 20:41.02 | Adys | what did you want |
| 20:41.04 | Adys | a baby DK? |
| 20:41.18 | Ackis | baby troll would've been win |
| 20:41.22 | Lunessa | That's some sick shit right there. Not even Arthas would stoop that low. |
| 20:41.29 | kamdis | Ackis, you want there to be MORE orphans? What's wrong with you, man? :P |
| 20:41.33 | Adys | "Ooowww I wanna see the big man in metal with blue eyes who talks bad!" |
| 20:41.40 | Adys | "The lich king?" |
| 20:41.41 | Ackis | lol |
| 20:42.17 | Lunessa | And considering that Arthas and Thrall both have a thing for Jaina Proudmoore, how much suffering could Azeroth have avoided if she was willing to you know... do one of them? |
| 20:42.24 | NightHawkTheSane | kamdis: i know, right! |
| 20:42.29 | Ackis | Lunessa: 3-some eh? |
| 20:42.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: srsly, if jaina just put out for arthas, we'd be so done with this northrend shit by now |
| 20:42.56 | Lunessa | I'm just saying, Arthas might have mellowed out if he'd just ogtten some. |
| 20:43.18 | durcyn | the cold certainly isn't helping his blue balls. |
| 20:44.36 | Lunessa | I mean, Jaina's a Mage, she's got Mirror Image, right? Right? |
| 20:44.49 | durcyn | that only lasts what, 30 seconds |
| 20:44.54 | Lunessa | She wouldn't even have to do the deed herself. |
| 20:45.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ... i was about to say "yeah, but only like 30s", but really, thats plenty for arthas i'm sure |
| 20:45.12 | Lunessa | durcyn: I submit that 30 seconds is all it would take. |
| 20:45.16 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: they didn't have Mirror Image at the time they were seeing each other |
| 20:45.35 | durcyn | Lunessa: with three of her, you might be right. |
| 20:46.14 | Lunessa | Then, once Arthas was mellowed out, she and Thrall could go make half-orcs all they wanted. |
| 20:46.34 | kamdis | She just should have given it up to Thrall back in the day in Hillsbrad. |
| 20:46.47 | durcyn | i thought thrall was banging some other human |
| 20:47.01 | Shirik | roofl |
| 20:47.08 | Shirik | I think Java takes security a bit too far |
| 20:47.10 | NightHawkTheSane | she died :P |
| 20:47.12 | durcyn | silly lore |
| 20:47.21 | Shirik | Permission: queuePrintJob Permission risk: This may waste paper |
| 20:48.53 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: thats nowhere close to the 'printer may be on fire' error |
| 20:49.01 | Shirik | o.O |
| 20:49.10 | Arrowmaster | THATS A REAL ERROR MESSAGE! |
| 20:49.18 | Lunessa | http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cas/1145584627.html |
| 20:49.23 | Fisker- | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:50.31 | durcyn | ~fisker--- |
| 20:50.48 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lp0_on_fire |
| 20:51.53 | Shirik | wow. |
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| 20:53.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: >.> |
| 20:53.56 | Lunessa | Seriously. That started out as interestingly charming and got LAME fast. |
| 20:54.32 | Shirik | that's awesome Arrowmaster |
| 20:54.56 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, inspired by that wikipedia article |
| 20:54.57 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, that's still in there |
| 20:55.15 | kneeki | Wow.. this is blowing my mind |
| 20:55.49 | kneeki | A bit of code works fine (for positioning buttons) when the addon is loaded, but if i scramble the buttons up a bit, and run the function in game, they come out all sorts of fubard up |
| 20:56.02 | kneeki | is boggled! |
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| 20:57.00 | NightHawkTheSane | oy.. http://www.overheardintheoffice.com/archives/009027.html |
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| 21:02.09 | Antiarc | ZorbaTHut: You around? |
| 21:02.16 | ZorbaTHut | yup, whazup? |
| 21:02.53 | Antiarc | I'd like to add QuestHelper support to SexyMap's HudMap, which hopefully should be as simple as giving QH a minimap object to parent to - can you point me at the piece of code that draws icons on the minimap? |
| 21:03.28 | ZorbaTHut | oh god I never even thought of that. hoo boy. um, gimme a few minutes |
| 21:03.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:03.36 | Antiarc | Heh, okay |
| 21:03.36 | kamdis | NHTS that's a Dilbert. |
| 21:03.57 | Antiarc | HudMap is just an alternate MinimapCluster/Minimap object with scale and alpha funkiness set. |
| 21:04.12 | Antiarc | GatherMate makes it pretty easy by just letting me tell it which minimap object to draw on |
| 21:04.15 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, there's code in there right now to make it easy to hook into the "arrow" system, but not the "minimap" system |
| 21:04.35 | ZorbaTHut | is "tell me which minimap object to use" all you need? you wouldn't need, like, a list of locations or anything? |
| 21:04.48 | Antiarc | Don't think so. Let me see how GatherMate does it real fast. |
| 21:04.56 | ZorbaTHut | that *shouldn't* be too hard |
| 21:05.04 | kneeki | Note to self: Use button:ClearAllPoints() |
| 21:05.17 | Antiarc | GatherMate:GetModule("Display"):ReparentMinimapPins(HudMapCluster) is the call I make in HudMap |
| 21:05.19 | Antiarc | And that is... |
| 21:05.40 | Antiarc | If you have GatherMate, it's like 806 in Display.lua |
| 21:05.44 | Antiarc | All of 8 lines |
| 21:06.04 | Antiarc | It just uses a Minimap local which is the game's minimap by default, but which may be overridden |
| 21:06.52 | ZorbaTHut | hmmm |
| 21:07.06 | Antiarc | If it's a big deal, don't worry about it |
| 21:07.12 | ZorbaTHut | so, without modifications to QH, if you just replace "Minimap" before QH starts it oughta work. other than that, it's going to take some mucking about in astrolabe, I believe |
| 21:07.16 | ZorbaTHut | it's something I honestly should support |
| 21:07.31 | ZorbaTHut | I'm pretty sure that's why Mappy keeps having to do nasty stuff inside Questhelper, now that I'm thinking about it |
| 21:08.44 | Antiarc | What file does the minimap icon positioning? I'd like to poke around in it |
| 21:08.47 | Antiarc | (so many files!) |
| 21:09.04 | ZorbaTHut | alright, here's what I can offer. I'm not getting this in before 1.0 is done :) Once 1.0 is done, if you can provide a HudMap that calls QuestHelper:ReparentMinimapPins, I can make it work (well, I can try to) |
| 21:09.12 | ZorbaTHut | dodads.lua, which calls Astrolabe's functions |
| 21:09.26 | Antiarc | Cool, I'll poke around in it and see what I can find. |
| 21:09.32 | Antiarc | And no rush, not critical, just a would-be-nice :) |
| 21:09.33 | ZorbaTHut | you're looking for QuestHelper:CreateMipmapDodad and the icon:OnUpdate inside it |
| 21:09.39 | Antiarc | Awesome, thank you. |
| 21:09.49 | ZorbaTHut | btw don't bother looking at anything that isn't the 1.0 beta, the 0.x codebase is about to be burned in a fire ;) |
| 21:09.59 | Antiarc | Haha, okay |
| 21:10.02 | Antiarc | And yeah, I'm on the beta |
| 21:10.07 | Antiarc | I'm doing alpha installs with the curse client |
| 21:10.12 | ZorbaTHut | excellent :) |
| 21:10.12 | Antiarc | Because I'm a developer and like pain! |
| 21:10.45 | Hirsute | Time to see if my hacked-together trade skill scanner makes anything blow up |
| 21:11.43 | Antiarc | Yeah, it looks like that uses the Minimap global, and Astrolabe uses the Minimap global |
| 21:11.55 | Antiarc | Do you accept patches, if I can get it working? |
| 21:12.47 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, absolutely (as long as you're willing to license the code over to me ;) ). If you've got Git, there's a public Git repo that you can pull from |
| 21:12.54 | Antiarc | Yup, no issue at all |
| 21:12.58 | Antiarc | And yes, I do have git |
| 21:13.06 | Antiarc | Is the wowace git repo authoritative? |
| 21:13.17 | Ackis | Hirsute: what tradeskill scanner? |
| 21:13.19 | ZorbaTHut | feel free to muck with the embedded Astrolabe to your heart's content, I use a different major version so there's no worries about conflicting with other people's versions |
| 21:13.26 | Antiarc | Excellent |
| 21:13.32 | ZorbaTHut | the repo listed on the Curse page is, I don't know what's listed in Wowace offhand |
| 21:13.33 | Antiarc | This doesn't look like it'll be too hard |
| 21:13.53 | ZorbaTHut | I'm currently missing some Firefox windows so I can't dig it out easily :P |
| 21:14.03 | Hirsute | Ackis: Yay, you're around. I'm just writing a small addon to record what items I can make with my trade skills in an easy-to-parse-for-outside-viewing format. |
| 21:14.19 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, it shouldn't be too bad. make sure to test that it does the right thing if it's toggled when "/qh hide" is on, though :) |
| 21:14.24 | Antiarc | Will do. |
| 21:14.39 | Ackis | Hirsute: oh nice... feel free to submit that to ARL lol |
| 21:14.45 | Hirsute | The "Yay, you're around" was because I'm wondering if you mind if I borrow some code from ARL? I won't be distributing this addon I'm making. |
| 21:15.31 | Hirsute | I just got tired of not being able to know what i can make on my toons without logging in, so I wrote a little script that would parse an SV file and write a simple web page for me to look at. |
| 21:15.34 | Ackis | for sure |
| 21:15.38 | Hirsute | Sounds good. |
| 21:15.51 | Hirsute | I just got logged in, time to open my tradeskill window and hope for the best... |
| 21:16.02 | Ackis | there's a webpage like that for enchanting I know |
| 21:16.17 | Lunessa | is trying to decide between going to see X-Men Origins: Wolverine tonight or going home to play WoW. |
| 21:16.44 | Industrial | both? |
| 21:16.47 | Industrial | wow after |
| 21:17.03 | Cairenn | is trying to decide between going to see it tonight, when the crowds will be crazy and tickets are full price, or wait until Tuesday when it's cheapie night and the crowds will be less |
| 21:17.07 | NightHawkTheSane | get some friends, go to a bar, get nicely toasted, go see wolverine, then go home and play wow. |
| 21:17.10 | Antiarc | ZorbaTHut: Where's the git repo? |
| 21:17.17 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, tuesday |
| 21:17.39 | Hirsute | Well, nothing blew up. Now lets see if I actually recorded any information... |
| 21:18.25 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: All my friends are virtual. :P |
| 21:19.02 | Osstia | DCC's Lunessa a hug |
| 21:19.15 | Osstia | i'm in a very similar boat |
| 21:19.17 | Lunessa | files the hug for later use. |
| 21:19.23 | ZorbaTHut | there we go, just managed to dig it out. git://cams.pavlovian.net/questhelper.git |
| 21:19.31 | Antiarc | Wonderful, thanks |
| 21:19.35 | ZorbaTHut | let me know if it works, to the best of my knowledge you're the first person who's ever tried to retrieve from it :P |
| 21:19.41 | Osstia | lol |
| 21:19.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: hmm. go to the store, buy a case of (good) beer, drink & play wow, fuck the movie if you'd be seeing it alone |
| 21:19.57 | Lunessa | I know lots of folks, just not someone I can call at 4:20 on a Friday and say, "Drive across town in rush hour and go see a geek movie with me." |
| 21:20.01 | Osstia | NightHawkTheSane: what qualifies as good beer? |
| 21:20.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Osstia: that depends on who you ask, i'll leave that up to the imbiber. :P |
| 21:20.41 | Thunder_Child | no NightHawkTheSane, no toasted. you're one of thoes people that end up yelling in movies |
| 21:20.47 | Lunessa | Blue Moon, Killians, Guinness, or maybe some of that nice Japanese rice beer.... |
| 21:21.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ good beers. |
| 21:21.12 | Osstia | blue moon with an orange wedge is ok |
| 21:21.40 | Osstia | I like sam adams, guiness is good, never had any japanese beers |
| 21:21.45 | Antiarc | It looks like it's working |
| 21:21.47 | Lunessa | Yeah. In a 16oz Schooner |
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| 21:22.16 | Osstia | its still 3:30 here. too early to get a beer craving going lol |
| 21:23.07 | NightHawkTheSane | mm.. schooner.. |
| 21:23.09 | Lunessa | I leave here in 40 minutes. Just trying to decide on how I want to spend the first night of the weekend. |
| 21:23.12 | Osstia | personally I am waiting to see Xmen in a matinee show next week. Something about seeing it with people in costume that makes me a little nervous |
| 21:23.29 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, they're mostly harmless |
| 21:23.35 | Antiarc | ZorbaTHut: It cloned fine, thanks |
| 21:23.39 | Osstia | i think my night will be a good smoke and some children's week stuff |
| 21:24.04 | Osstia | is an aging nerd, how sad |
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| 21:24.24 | ZorbaTHut | excellent |
| 21:24.26 | Lunessa | Osstia: Where I live I doubt I'd see that. The part of town I'm in is just to socially restrained for that. |
| 21:25.28 | Osstia | the theatre I go to attracts that. You reserve seats online, so you don't have to wait in line. but it draws big crowds |
| 21:27.29 | airtonix | another deathknight rolling need on spellpower gear...\0/ |
| 21:27.38 | Osstia | wow |
| 21:29.12 | Lunessa | Runic Power != Mana. |
| 21:29.13 | Dashkal | but but but! I'm deathcoil spec! |
| 21:29.45 | Dashkal | Though I must admit, the odd caster neck has looked good. Pretty pretty crit |
| 21:30.29 | ZorbaTHut | airtonix, I've got a prot warrior friend who was overjoyed when the Repelling Charge dropped |
| 21:30.35 | ZorbaTHut | a feral druid won it. :( |
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| 21:30.58 | ZorbaTHut | everyone knows that all that crit reduction, block, and parry is great for bears! :( |
| 21:30.59 | Ackis | is there any super special event when you get champion of all 5 factions? |
| 21:32.28 | kamdis | airtronix: on behalf of the few, the proud, the un-retarded DKs, I'm sorry. |
| 21:32.28 | NightHawkTheSane | ... Can someone sanity check this simiple recursive function to make sure I didn't miss anything stupid? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/113422 |
| 21:32.41 | kamdis | *airtonix |
| 21:34.14 | kamdis | I did win the Pyrite Infuser last night over a Rogue and a Hunter...but that's not soooooo bad. |
| 21:34.14 | Dashkal | sighs |
| 21:34.14 | Dashkal | My favorite class... the new huntard |
| 21:34.18 | Dashkal | Oh hell, I rolled on that without a second thought. The other DK beat me |
| 21:34.37 | kamdis | our other DK didn't roll. But he's got Greatness and FotFF. |
| 21:34.48 | kamdis | and i still has loatheb's trinket |
| 21:35.02 | Dashkal | I'm using the tentical box and mirror of truth. I badly need a new trinket |
| 21:35.14 | Dashkal | Though the two do synergize nicely |
| 21:35.22 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> supposedly, when one of the guilds on my server first dropped KT-25, Betrayer of Humanity dropped, and a hunter won it :P |
| 21:35.42 | kamdis | it is a pretty nice weapon for them |
| 21:35.51 | kamdis | but i'd kick some ass if our hunters took it. |
| 21:35.53 | kamdis | over dks |
| 21:35.55 | NightHawkTheSane | it is, although journey's end is probably better. |
| 21:35.59 | kamdis | or fury warrs |
| 21:36.13 | kamdis | we still haven't seen one drop :( |
| 21:36.18 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. i hear there were some wars & dks.. miffed.. over that. |
| 21:36.21 | kamdis | journey's end, yes. betrayer, no. |
| 21:36.27 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, we never saw one, and aren't doing naxx anymore |
| 21:36.36 | kamdis | I would think. |
| 21:36.54 | kamdis | we aren't either, except occasional half guild half pugs on off nights. |
| 21:37.10 | kamdis | Oh well. On to better in Ulduar, hopefully. |
| 21:37.27 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* there's been some talk of setting one of those up, esp to help undergeared raiders. |
| 21:37.27 | kamdis | Though, on our first 10m FL kill the PROT PALLY took the Ironsoul. |
| 21:37.30 | kamdis | *sigh* |
| 21:37.31 | Lunessa | cries. |
| 21:37.41 | Lunessa | I'm still trying to "on to better in Naxx." |
| 21:38.01 | NightHawkTheSane | we never saw a voice of reason or torch of holy fire, either. which makes me sad. :( |
| 21:38.45 | NightHawkTheSane | but hey, enough calamity's grasps so one of our resto shaman has one. >< |
| 21:38.55 | kamdis | haha |
| 21:39.20 | kamdis | we were DE'ing those too |
| 21:39.30 | kamdis | only 2 sigils ever too |
| 21:39.35 | kamdis | not that it means anything now |
| 21:39.53 | kamdis | one of them promptly left the server for a "real raiding guild" |
| 21:39.56 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, you can buy the sigils now, though |
| 21:40.08 | kamdis | right, that's what i meant by not that it matters now |
| 21:40.14 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, *nod* |
| 21:44.39 | Shirik | Wow. |
| 21:44.43 | Shirik | My code just crashed the JVM. |
| 21:44.45 | Shirik | I think I win. |
| 21:45.04 | kamdis | hands Shirik a cookie. |
| 21:45.14 | Shirik | yay, a kamdis cookie |
| 21:45.25 | kamdis | not as good as a peppy cookie, but it'll do |
| 21:45.44 | Shirik | close enough :) |
| 21:47.42 | zenzelezz | remember when browsers would always pop up a warning if a site wanted to set a cookie? |
| 21:48.01 | Ackis | @project daily-quest-viewer |
| 21:48.02 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/daily-quest-viewer/. Daily Quest Viewer. Game: WoW. Chingerayl (Manager/Author). Updated: 9 days ago. Tickets: 2/3 |
| 21:51.07 | airtonix | argent champions get harder to beat each time you win a duel? |
| 21:51.22 | Tewan | remember when cookies were just a food? |
| 21:51.51 | airtonix | remember when we didn't have cookies and had to catch our transport? |
| 21:52.08 | NightHawkTheSane | airtonix: no..? |
| 21:52.18 | airtonix | oh right before your time then |
| 21:52.24 | NightHawkTheSane | er, i meant.. |
| 21:52.28 | airtonix | lulz |
| 21:52.31 | NightHawkTheSane | no champions dont get harder :P |
| 21:52.37 | NightHawkTheSane | bah |
| 21:52.46 | Thunder_Child | ok, childrens week is meh w/o a mage |
| 21:52.49 | airtonix | seems the fourth one reacts faster than the others |
| 21:53.02 | NightHawkTheSane | i've not noticed that. but *shrug* |
| 21:53.19 | NightHawkTheSane | could be you're just getting slower ;) |
| 21:57.54 | Lunessa | doesn't want a cookie. I want PIE. |
| 21:58.11 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: kids week is fail since they removed the 'once an orphan' achievement |
| 21:58.31 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, which is that? |
| 21:58.47 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: that was the one about dieing in a BG with the orphan out, or something similar |
| 21:59.02 | Thunder_Child | ...now you have to do something... |
| 21:59.04 | bleeter | it was wonderful black humour |
| 21:59.42 | foxlit | killing other people with their orphans out |
| 21:59.43 | bleeter | "Kill 10 enemy players who have an orphan with them." |
| 21:59.50 | foxlit | But that was just pathetic design |
| 22:00.16 | bleeter | foxlit: so they removed it to make the event even more pathetic |
| 22:00.20 | bleeter | *thus making |
| 22:00.31 | foxlit | meh, it's a net improvement for the event. |
| 22:00.50 | ZorbaTHut | it's going to be brutal on my server. it requires that we be good at battlegrounds |
| 22:00.53 | ZorbaTHut | and we aren't :( |
| 22:01.01 | bleeter | foxlit: i think they should remove all black humour from the game |
| 22:01.02 | foxlit | Even the existing PvP achievement for children's week is meh. |
| 22:01.27 | foxlit | It's not the humour I'm opposed to, it's the gameplay. |
| 22:01.47 | bleeter | it's a pity they spent so much time on NG redesign, and did nothing for the kids |
| 22:02.00 | bleeter | well, it'd appear nothing was done for the kids |
| 22:02.10 | Antiarc | ZorbaTHut: The movement calculations on the hudmap are wrong, but I have pins showing up there now :) |
| 22:02.15 | ZorbaTHut | won't somebody please think of the children |
| 22:02.17 | foxlit | They had something done for them in wotlk |
| 22:02.18 | ZorbaTHut | antiarc, progress :) |
| 22:02.25 | bleeter | apart from a broken repeatable achievement |
| 22:02.27 | Antiarc | Very few changes, really. It's not too bad at all. |
| 22:02.32 | bleeter | foxlit: hmm? which? |
| 22:02.38 | foxlit | er |
| 22:02.39 | foxlit | bc |
| 22:02.51 | foxlit | My point is that, unlike noblegarden, it's been updated since it was first released |
| 22:03.13 | foxlit | so given limited resources, noblegarden first, children's week later. |
| 22:04.00 | bleeter | fair nough, I guess |
| 22:04.01 | foxlit | But they did bug the Ring of Observance quest for wotlk |
| 22:04.30 | bleeter | I'm still trying to work out why the summons Accept button is greyed out if I'm in bird form... wtf? |
| 22:04.31 | foxlit | You can no longer click the portal, rendering the whole scripted interaction a senseless pantomime. |
| 22:04.48 | foxlit | bleeter: just bird form, or just while flying? |
| 22:04.59 | foxlit | But yeah, that snuck up on me as well. was weird! |
| 22:05.08 | bleeter | foxlit: I dunno, sif use regular mount on my druids |
| 22:05.35 | foxlit | sif? |
| 22:05.39 | bleeter | hmm yeah could be just 'mounted/flying' at aguess, seem to recall seeing some bug about summoning while in flight |
| 22:05.50 | bleeter | sif = s'if = as if |
| 22:09.14 | Thunder_Child | still fail bleeter... |
| 22:09.16 | Antiarc | ZorbaTHut: Success! Pins on hudmap working as expected. Patch incoming :D |
| 22:09.18 | Thunder_Child | as if use |
| 22:09.54 | ZorbaTHut | antiarc, awesome :D |
| 22:10.51 | Antiarc | If I could figure out how to put the ants on hudmap my day would be complete, but that's probably a bit more ambitious ;) |
| 22:11.01 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: 'as if i would use' |
| 22:11.02 | Antiarc | http://i44.tinypic.com/n71xlc.jpg |
| 22:11.27 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: i try to keep up with the trendy shorthand ways of speaking, i don't understand it myself but I'm told it can work well |
| 22:11.48 | bleeter | which explains why most of the time i'm talking crap ;) |
| 22:12.02 | Thunder_Child | hels if you are talking to people who talk the same way |
| 22:12.06 | Thunder_Child | helps* |
| 22:12.07 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: how is it shorthand if you spent like five lines explaining it. :P |
| 22:13.34 | Thunder_Child | again, it works if people know what you are saying |
| 22:13.45 | bleeter | but you don't know if they don't know, until you try |
| 22:13.46 | bleeter | you know? |
| 22:14.07 | bleeter | if you know the people you're conversing with know, then it's all ok |
| 22:14.35 | bleeter | if most of the people you converse with know, and don't comment, then one day you mention it somewhere else and they don't know... you let them know, you know? |
| 22:14.41 | Thunder_Child | well one would assume they would have been typing like that already |
| 22:14.41 | bleeter | it's called... evolution of languages etc. |
| 22:15.10 | bleeter | now, i know that i've seen people who aren't me, use it before. not necessarily in here - I can't recall that detail |
| 22:16.22 | ZorbaTHut | antiarc, well, it doesn't currently do ants on the minimap anyway, so ;) |
| 22:16.47 | bleeter | but I don't think I should go around polling everyone on which phrases and the like they understand, before using them |
| 22:16.56 | bleeter | maybe |
| 22:19.21 | Antiarc | ZorbaTHut: http://pastey.net/113426 |
| 22:19.29 | Antiarc | I hereby release this code into the public domain, blah blah blah |
| 22:20.07 | Lunessa | Antiarc: Check you out, all slick with the HUD-map. |
| 22:20.49 | Antiarc | http://i39.tinypic.com/27zgiop.jpg |
| 22:20.51 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, stick to common english then? |
| 22:20.53 | Antiarc | It's all useful and stuff :D |
| 22:21.03 | foxlit | Divine Intervention on gnomes looks awesome |
| 22:21.25 | ZorbaTHut | antiarc, looks pretty good to me. I'll check it in and put it in 1.0.10 early next week :) |
| 22:21.47 | Antiarc | Cool. SexyMap will only use it if QuestHelper.SetMinimapObject is present, so it'll "just work" when QH is updated. |
| 22:23.22 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: but there is no such thing as common English. |
| 22:23.48 | foxlit | But there is common LISP. |
| 22:23.56 | foxlit | Therefore, LISP > English? :) |
| 22:24.19 | alestane | If you assume that that's a superior condition. |
| 22:26.15 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, dictionary? |
| 22:27.53 | zenzelezz | let's not forget common business oriented language |
| 22:27.54 | kamdis | Antiarc: is that green ring scalable? |
| 22:28.01 | kamdis | that's awesome, btw |
| 22:30.00 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out. Take care all. |
| 22:30.12 | Antiarc | kamdis: Yeah |
| 22:30.21 | Antiarc | kamdis: Have you not seen it in action before? |
| 22:30.35 | Kaelten | wtf |
| 22:30.36 | Antiarc | It supports GatherMate and Routes, which makes for an absolutely -killer- resource gathering setup |
| 22:30.37 | Kaelten | now he's ban dodging |
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| 22:30.41 | Kaelten | fucking doncornea |
| 22:30.41 | Antiarc | who |
| 22:31.19 | Antiarc | What's that easy-as-FuBar LDB idsplay? |
| 22:31.21 | Antiarc | NinjaPanel? |
| 22:31.37 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.41 | kergoth | just fast and easy |
| 22:32.09 | NightHawkTheSane | (like your mom) |
| 22:32.09 | Antiarc | hm, I like config |
| 22:32.19 | kergoth | chocolatebar or something has more config. or buttonbin |
| 22:32.28 | airtonix | dockingstation |
| 22:32.28 | Antiarc | I'm using ButtonBin but it's sorta unwieldy |
| 22:32.43 | kergoth | aye, buttonbin seemed to require a fair bit of setup |
| 22:32.51 | kergoth | is playing with fortress + makerocketgonow at the moment |
| 22:33.01 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: whose? |
| 22:33.14 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, webster's? |
| 22:33.25 | Thunder_Child | also, i need to get my ass in a epic flyer |
| 22:33.27 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: why not macquarie? |
| 22:33.31 | bleeter | or oxford? |
| 22:33.42 | bleeter | why use some dictionary that was created by a fork of the original language? |
| 22:33.45 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, whats their % of diff...2? |
| 22:33.59 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: you tell me |
| 22:34.09 | bleeter | you're the one who seems to know it contains the most 'common' form of the language |
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| 22:35.30 | Thunder_Child | i can change it to what people will understand you with out needing an explination |
| 22:35.48 | Thunder_Child | explanation (sp?) |
| 22:35.48 | batbot | Thunder_Child, explanation is correct. |
| 22:36.10 | kamdis | Antiarc: No. *grin* |
| 22:36.11 | bleeter | there's more wrong than just spelling |
| 22:36.17 | kamdis | But I will now. |
| 22:36.35 | Antiarc | I wrote it so I'm biased, but I friggin' love it |
| 22:36.41 | Antiarc | It makes gathering a hell of a lot of fun. |
| 22:36.55 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, but you understood it |
| 22:37.59 | kamdis | that's Sexymap, right? I've mostly just seen the [very cool but not my thing] blue animated graphic. |
| 22:38.32 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: is that a statement or a question? |
| 22:38.32 | Thunder_Child | statment |
| 22:39.12 | foxlit | Stamina: 2227 |
| 22:39.37 | foxlit | Ghoul almost has more sta than me |
| 22:39.44 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: well you're missing a comma, and there may be an extra word in there depending on where you'd like to place the comma |
| 22:39.49 | bleeter | that's to say you may wish to remove a word |
| 22:39.51 | foxlit | in fact, with a few more points, he would. |
| 22:40.21 | bleeter | once you work that bit out, I probably will understand |
| 22:41.10 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, i can change my definition of 'common' to be anything that will let the other person understand you with out needing an explanation. |
| 22:41.18 | tlund | why does the topic for this channel include "The topic for #WoWUIDev is: ", isn't that a bit redudant? |
| 22:42.23 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: you need to get out more. 'sif' is fairly common. |
| 22:42.41 | bleeter | don't forget there's written english, and spoken |
| 22:42.56 | bleeter | and |
| 22:43.16 | bleeter | Webster's got the whole 'American/International/synonym mixed up from their second edition onwards |
| 22:43.39 | bleeter | s/l\/s/l\'\ s/ |
| 22:43.48 | bleeter | .. or something like that :( |
| 22:43.55 | bleeter | purl: did I hurt you? |
| 22:48.06 | Ackis | [ImpervĂous:80] has earned the achievement [Daily Chores]! <-- how the hell? |
| 22:49.03 | Adys | Ackis: just do 5 diff quests |
| 22:49.07 | Adys | its been hotfixed |
| 22:49.18 | Ackis | Adys: he just got it like 2 minutes ago =/ |
| 22:49.22 | Adys | yes |
| 22:49.26 | Adys | its been hotfixed to be possible |
| 22:50.08 | Adys | guess they were scared people would complain |
| 22:50.25 | Adys | btw Ackis, http://devcub.com/~adys/patron.jpg |
| 22:50.48 | Ackis | wtf lol |
| 22:50.59 | Antiarc | What was hotfixed? |
| 22:51.04 | Adys | daily chores |
| 22:51.13 | Antiarc | ~topic |
| 22:51.48 | Ackis | Adys: I noticed I lost my hearthstone achievement last night |
| 22:51.52 | Adys | yeah |
| 22:51.54 | Adys | do it again |
| 22:51.59 | Adys | that too has been hotfixed |
| 22:52.03 | Ackis | yah wasn't hard to do |
| 22:53.56 | tekkub | 948765 |
| 22:54.00 | tekkub | go go auth token! |
| 22:54.12 | Adys | hacks tekkub before the 30 sec run out |
| 22:57.51 | bleeter | lol @ skunk on ptr |
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| 23:04.24 | Tewan | holy shit |
| 23:04.31 | Tewan | http://www.google.com/search?q=owl+exterminator&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a |
| 23:04.34 | Tewan | my link is the first |
| 23:04.35 | Tewan | O_O |
| 23:05.22 | Tewan | Also, wrong channel. :D |
| 23:05.54 | Adys | how many people google for owl exterminators? |
| 23:06.05 | Adys | apart from the 6-7 of us who just clicked that link |
| 23:06.46 | Tewan | lol |
| 23:06.48 | Tewan | No idea |
| 23:11.49 | Antiarc | How the deuce do I add LDB items to Docking Panel? |
| 23:11.53 | Antiarc | I can't figure out where to add them >_< |
| 23:12.11 | mikma | antiarc: you need to enable them 1 by 1 from config |
| 23:12.34 | Antiarc | I can't figure out where to do that! |
| 23:12.38 | Antiarc | I don't see any place to select them |
| 23:13.22 | mikma | click the docking station button -> go and search plugins -> dropdownlist, select plugin -> enable plugin |
| 23:13.46 | Antiarc | aha |
| 23:13.49 | Antiarc | That's a little unintuitive |
| 23:13.55 | mikma | yes, it is :O |
| 23:14.23 | foxlit | oh ffs. |
| 23:14.31 | foxlit | Why do I keep getting into AV instances that have already started? |
| 23:15.07 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: because people join AV, try to cap the towers, fail/succeed, quit.. and the game tries to fill the gaps |
| 23:15.25 | foxlit | Quit without deserter? |
| 23:15.45 | NightHawkTheSane | they probably get deserter for afking out |
| 23:16.07 | foxlit | So they can't requeue |
| 23:16.08 | NightHawkTheSane | but so? with all the people doing the seasonal achievement, there's plenty to work with until their 15m is up :P |
| 23:18.08 | foxlit | You'd think that would be an effective throttle |
| 23:18.11 | foxlit | But hey, awesome |
| 23:18.30 | foxlit | There's a tauren bear in west frostwolf tower |
| 23:18.38 | bleeter | rawr |
| 23:18.43 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 23:18.52 | foxlit | So the AV herald looks like |
| 23:19.06 | foxlit | "Alliance has captured (tower)" "Horde has defended (tower)" ad infinitum. |
| 23:20.42 | foxlit | On one side, I'm very happy that happened and hope I can find that druid on all of my chars. |
| 23:21.12 | NightHawkTheSane | trading towers to get the achievement, not a bad idea |
| 23:21.30 | foxlit | On the other, it's wrecking immersion and abusing game mechanics to accomplish an absolutely arbitrary achievement credit. |
| 23:22.58 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, because the game so carefully makes sure your immersion is -never- broken. |
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| 23:23.27 | foxlit | Ordinarily, I'd say that "immersion" is a silly concept to begin with |
| 23:23.40 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* in the abstract its not |
| 23:23.44 | NightHawkTheSane | with respect to wow, it probably is |
| 23:23.57 | foxlit | But come on, there's a difference between doing something because it's fun and being rewarded for it, and... this. |
| 23:24.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, the difference is one's faster, and much less painful. I'll let you figure out which is which. ;) |
| 23:24.38 | foxlit | It breaks the immersion of WoW masquerading as a game rather than a soul-consuming void of no-return :) |
| 23:25.00 | NightHawkTheSane | okay, you got me there :) |
| 23:25.07 | foxlit | (Also, WoW hates kittens. True story!) |
| 23:26.15 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed |
| 23:26.28 | foxlit | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/5/1/fivefold-mother/ << The second panel is... curious. |
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| 23:31.57 | Kemayo | So. My game crashed while I was on a dock. When I logged back in I was dead and floating in a featureless off-grey void. |
| 23:32.17 | Kemayo | I released spirit. And now my ghost is endlessly falling, while I can see the sea off in the distance. |
| 23:32.35 | Kemayo | Every now and then I fall past a spirit healer. |
| 23:32.44 | Kemayo | I'm going to accept the rez from it next time and see what happens... |
| 23:33.04 | foxlit | "You can't do that while moving" happens |
| 23:33.09 | foxlit | (Would be my guess) |
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| 23:34.33 | Kemayo | No, it works. I just keep on falling and then die. |
| 23:35.36 | bleeter | ive been enjoying watching my spirit form suffer from fatigue and die |
| 23:35.55 | bleeter | i'm like 'i'm already dead how the hell do i die again gg blizz' |
| 23:36.40 | foxlit | Your spriti needs to suffer durability damage! |
| 23:36.43 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: 'The fivefold mother' is a reference to Tiamat, in D&D lore a draconic deity of greed & evil, and has 5 dragon consorts, one of each color (blue, red, green, black white) |
| 23:36.47 | Adys | is this what whiners are like when they are killed? |
| 23:37.44 | foxlit | NightHawkTheSane: Hm, that clears it up :) |
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| 23:40.38 | AbsolutRayne | |Jelly|: Ping |
| 23:40.41 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 23:40.54 | AbsolutRayne | You use Aloft, correct? |
| 23:41.08 | |Jelly| | Yeah |
| 23:41.48 | AbsolutRayne | Does it operate with DogTags? Like if I wanted to put [E] Before an NPCs name to represent Elite, is it feasible? |
| 23:42.10 | bleeter | foxlit: well yes, but what's the API call to find out how much dura dmg it's taken?? |
| 23:42.18 | bleeter | foxlit: curious minds demand an answer ;) |
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| 23:42.56 | |Jelly| | Don't think so |
| 23:42.57 | foxlit | function()return 42;end() |
| 23:43.06 | AbsolutRayne | Hmm |
| 23:43.08 | AbsolutRayne | Alright |
| 23:44.08 | AbsolutRayne | yeah the Classification tag doesnt work |
| 23:44.11 | AbsolutRayne | Ill figure something out |
| 23:44.25 | foxlit | In unrelated news: moonkins reproduce by laying eggs. |
| 23:44.48 | bleeter | no fertilisation? |
| 23:44.54 | bleeter | always thoguht they were a bit odd |
| 23:47.12 | AbsolutRayne | Odd, the Mana Bar wont appear until ive clicked on the unit...ohwell |
| 23:49.20 | tekkub | "3.0.2 introduced vast changes to the game and a large majority of add-ons will no longer work correctly . " |
| 23:49.23 | tekkub | I lol'd |
| 23:53.00 | foxlit | "large majority" << awesome |
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| 23:57.03 | NightHawkTheSane | well, its obviously as opposed to a small majority. duh |
