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| 00:07.49 | Dashkal | "...BaconLance, a flaming meatsword...": http://idle.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/16/1621250 |
| 00:08.19 | amro | a failing meatsword |
| 00:09.53 | NeoTron | Dashkal: I agree, that was a great comment |
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| 00:34.06 | Kemayo | What should one do to get an addon moved out of the "Outdated Mods" category on wowi? |
| 00:34.17 | ScytheBlade1 | YEA FINALLY: "ZDNet has a story (and several related articles) about how Symantec has discovered evidence of an all-Mac based botnet that is actively involved in a DOS attack." |
| 00:34.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Kemayo: PM a moderator |
| 00:34.44 | Thunder_Child | hmmm...i wonder why argent tourny is under world events |
| 00:39.22 | Trela | Requires them to download the trojan, stupidly type in their password on a screen that pretty much says LOL I infect you now, and be stupid. |
| 00:39.28 | Trela | The reality here is stupid users. :D |
| 00:39.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, yes it is |
| 00:40.44 | Trela | The good part is that it is fairly easy to remove. |
| 00:41.11 | ScytheBlade1 | And the part where I finally have some ammo to shove in front of stupid OSX users screaming "muhahaha I don't even need to THINK ABOUT SECURITY" |
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| 00:42.28 | Trela | I have Little Snitch installed and that is really it. |
| 00:42.52 | Trela | 105gbs to go. |
| 00:44.13 | Arrowmaster | gbs? |
| 00:44.21 | Trela | Gigabytes. |
| 00:44.36 | Arrowmaster | drop the s |
| 00:44.43 | Trela | Technically gB. :P |
| 00:44.55 | Arrowmaster | GB |
| 00:45.35 | Trela | I just installed two terabytes of space and I am copying all my data over to the new drives. |
| 00:45.52 | Trela | Also installed 8gbs of RAM. *Drools* |
| 00:46.21 | Cloudwolf | uh trela is this a server? |
| 00:46.23 | Cloudwolf | or a gaming rig? |
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| 00:46.34 | Trela | Both! |
| 00:46.47 | Cloudwolf | what gcard you running in it? |
| 00:46.53 | Trela | I have an ATI 4870 1gb waiting to be installed. |
| 00:46.59 | Trela | ATI x1900 XT right now. |
| 00:47.07 | Trela | System Info: Model: Mac Pro (Quad Core) "Tennyoko". CPU: Quad GenuineIntel (Intel Woodcrest) @ 2.7 GHz. RAM: 8.0GB. OS X Version: 10.5.6 Boot Disk Size: 715077MB ( 698GB ). Used: 99%. Uptime: 3:17. Time: 8:47PM. Time zone: GMT -4. Load Averages (1min/5min/15min): { 0.04 0.04 0.05 }. Network Traffic: Hardware: 41 MB in, 33 MB out.Client: Colloquy 2.2 |
| 00:47.16 | Wimpsy` | give. |
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| 00:47.56 | Trela | Quad 2.66ghz Xeons with 4MB cache per CPU. :3 |
| 00:48.28 | Cloudwolf | quad core?! |
| 00:48.50 | Cloudwolf | trela what did that damn thing cost you? |
| 00:49.17 | Trela | Originally $2,500 back in 2007. |
| 00:49.37 | Wimpsy` | and all those upgrades? |
| 00:49.56 | Cloudwolf | ok so your upgrading your rig |
| 00:49.59 | Trela | The upgrades I just bought were $600 which includes two hard drives, video, and RAM. |
| 00:50.12 | Wimpsy` | nice |
| 00:50.23 | Cloudwolf | wait how long have you had the quad 2.66 ghx xeons 4mb cache |
| 00:50.24 | Cloudwolf | ? |
| 00:50.32 | Trela | Since 2007. |
| 00:50.40 | Trela | Two cores per CPU, two CPUs. |
| 00:51.00 | Arrowmaster | thats not a quad core |
| 00:51.09 | Wimpsy` | that's 2 dual cores |
| 00:51.13 | Trela | I can upgrade to two quad core CPUs for a total of eight cores in the future. |
| 00:51.19 | Trela | Still quad cores. |
| 00:51.44 | Moleculor | Woo. Server first Deconstructor 10 man. *twirls finger in air* |
| 00:52.05 | Moleculor | (And no, no one's killed him in 25.) |
| 00:52.32 | Wimpsy` | Congrats |
| 00:52.33 | Trela | Nice, Moleculor. |
| 00:52.38 | Wimpsy` | Night guys. :) |
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| 00:53.02 | Trela | I want to shove two of these in there. :O http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117141 |
| 00:53.06 | Thunder_Child | the next time i upgrade it's going to be 1K just in HD's |
| 00:53.50 | Trela | I stream high definition video to the television downstairs and I have a lot of video. |
| 00:55.01 | Trela | $1,000 in hard drives would be around ten terabytes. Planning to start a giant pornography collection? :P |
| 00:55.14 | Thunder_Child | start? |
| 00:55.19 | Arrowmaster | i was going to spend more than that |
| 00:55.29 | Thunder_Child | no, i save my space for movies/shows |
| 00:55.40 | Cloudwolf | lol i gota get new gcards |
| 00:55.42 | Cloudwolf | realy realy soon |
| 00:55.42 | Thunder_Child | 5 2TB HD's |
| 00:56.02 | Thunder_Child | assuming it doesnt take me so long to get them that i will be getting larger HD's |
| 00:56.07 | Arrowmaster | are there any 2TB HD's out yet other than the WD Green crap |
| 00:56.22 | Trela | I am replacing this video card since Apple's x1900 XT is a failure prone piece of shit. I have replaced it four times now. |
| 00:56.30 | Trela | Under warranty of course. |
| 00:57.22 | Arrowmaster | apple should come out with some i7 macs so i can know what hardware to look for to make a hackintosh |
| 00:57.35 | Cloudwolf | <= is a pc person |
| 00:57.59 | Trela | I need to extract ROM on the 4870 I bought for PC and create a custom Mac version of it to flash back. |
| 00:58.07 | Trela | That is why it is not installed yet. :P |
| 00:58.58 | Cloudwolf | im running 2 old nvidea 7600's >.> atm de sli-ed because im running 2 monitors |
| 00:59.15 | Arrowmaster | well im either building a hackintosh or using linux in my next pc, done with windows |
| 00:59.37 | Cloudwolf | see linux looks nice but i don't want to have to do hackey methods to get compatibility |
| 01:00.59 | Trela | Linux is okay, but I get frustrated trying to install half the "supported" programs and go back happily to OS X. |
| 01:02.09 | Cloudwolf | if i ever deal with dual booting ile prolly end up going windows linux combo |
| 01:02.30 | Thunder_Child | if i could VM mac properly on my pc i would be happy |
| 01:03.46 | Trela | I did have OS 10.4 running on an old AMD machine before. It worked weirdly. |
| 01:03.56 | Cloudwolf | Right now this pc's biggest problem is Graphics the newer games are starting to give me issues running like COD 4 |
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| 01:05.46 | Cloudwolf | i have kinda a philosphy of run on the highest settings or dont run at all |
| 01:05.59 | Cloudwolf | to bad i can't do that in cod4 XD |
| 01:06.22 | Cloudwolf | or the orange box engine :( |
| 01:08.16 | Trela | Down to 50GB. |
| 01:08.23 | Trela | *GBs. |
| 01:08.34 | Cloudwolf | how many didyou start with to transfer? |
| 01:09.42 | Trela | 555GBs. |
| 01:10.01 | Cloudwolf | lol i have a 500 gig internal about half full |
| 01:10.11 | Cloudwolf | and a 500 gig external at about 80% full |
| 01:10.16 | Cloudwolf | maybe 90% |
| 01:10.53 | tekkub | stupid thought, if I mark files read-only before zipping them, will they be read-only when unzipped? |
| 01:11.09 | Moleculor | Yes. (I think.) |
| 01:11.16 | tekkub | i.e. could I put a tiny roadblock in to hint to users not to fuck with the codes |
| 01:11.19 | Kazie | Any experienced Aloft users here? |
| 01:12.19 | Trela | tekkub: Depends on the archiving program and more importantly, what they use on their end to open it. |
| 01:12.41 | Thunder_Child | Kazie, it might be something new that blizz did and just isnt fixed in aloft |
| 01:12.48 | tekkub | but it *should* work, in general |
| 01:13.02 | tekkub | might not cover ever user, but that's fine |
| 01:13.18 | Trela | Exactly. |
| 01:13.41 | Kazie | Thunder_Child: Well.. the addon works fine, but after the patch i can't seem to reove the Elite dragon from the nameplate.. it's quite annoying when you tank 50 mobs, you know? :P |
| 01:13.50 | Kazie | Actually.. it's just annoying en general |
| 01:14.55 | Trela | It is a new Blizzard feature, I hate on mine and I do not use any AddOns that modify that. |
| 01:15.22 | Kazie | So it's something blizzard thought they add to the default nameplates in 3.1? :o |
| 01:15.40 | Trela | Yes. :O I believe so! |
| 01:15.57 | Kemayo | It was in the patch notes, certainly. |
| 01:16.08 | Trela | I was antagonizing a flight master and noticed it. |
| 01:16.16 | Kazie | Why would someone want an ugly dragon not only 1 but 2 places at their screen at once?! damn it |
| 01:16.52 | Kazie | Kemayo: yea well.. the brilliant Blizzard Launcher felt like shutting down the patch notes as i were reading them, lol. |
| 01:17.27 | Kemayo | I'll have you know that patch notes don't even display when running under wine. I had to read 'em on the website. :D |
| 01:17.29 | Thunder_Child | going to be hard fixing it since it isnt updated anymore |
| 01:17.33 | Thunder_Child | afaik |
| 01:17.41 | Kazie | Do you guys know, if there is a way of shutting them off in the game? |
| 01:17.55 | Trela | I am looking through the code. |
| 01:18.08 | Kazie | Is Aloft discontinued or what are you saying? :o |
| 01:18.36 | Thunder_Child | it hasent been updated in months, thats all i know |
| 01:18.57 | Kemayo | There's nothing in Interface Options about the elite stuff. |
| 01:19.10 | Thunder_Child | or not |
| 01:19.11 | Thunder_Child | i lied |
| 01:19.15 | tekkub | low and behold, if the file is read-only, wowmatrix doesn't un-read-only it to make a TOC version change |
| 01:19.16 | Kazie | LIAR! |
| 01:19.17 | Thunder_Child | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10864-AloftBeta.html |
| 01:19.18 | tekkub | perfect |
| 01:19.24 | Kazie | what ya lying about? |
| 01:19.34 | Thunder_Child | ^^ |
| 01:19.40 | Thunder_Child | it was updated 4 13 |
| 01:19.43 | Kazie | that damn ninja author |
| 01:19.47 | Kazie | 4 days ago haha |
| 01:19.59 | Kazie | I just hate when ppl suddenly change site :P |
| 01:20.05 | Kazie | it's not updated on either wowace or curse :) |
| 01:20.17 | Trela | "added a "State Icon" feature, to allow user control over Blizzard's upcoming elite graphics on nameplates (will only be relevant on the PTR and when 3.1 goes live)" |
| 01:20.58 | Kazie | haha.. he fucked us over pretty good there, eh? :P |
| 01:21.00 | Kemayo | It seems silly to deliberately take it off of version control. |
| 01:21.01 | Kemayo | A sin! |
| 01:21.06 | Kazie | We almost lost all hope |
| 01:21.31 | Thunder_Child | we did? |
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| 01:22.19 | Kazie | shh! |
| 01:22.21 | Kazie | :P |
| 01:22.33 | Kazie | You never RP'd? |
| 01:22.42 | Thunder_Child | only in D&D |
| 01:22.55 | Thunder_Child | what i want to know is why they removed the AoE ground images |
| 01:22.59 | Kazie | well i didn't and i thought i'd give it a try just now.. |
| 01:23.08 | Kazie | they didn't thunder |
| 01:23.23 | Torhal | I keep reading the WM thread on WoWI, even though I keep saying I won't, and I keep wanting to kick people in the genitals. |
| 01:23.28 | Torhal | growls. |
| 01:23.30 | Thunder_Child | blizzard dosent show up |
| 01:23.40 | Kazie | They split up the feature |
| 01:23.41 | Trela | Thunder_Child: Check Projected Textures. |
| 01:23.47 | Kazie | it's called "Density effect" now |
| 01:23.57 | Kazie | "Particle Effect" sorry |
| 01:24.03 | Legorol | Kazie: actually it's been split into two options |
| 01:24.18 | Legorol | Particle Density, and the Projected Textures |
| 01:24.18 | Kazie | Legorol: yea i know :) |
| 01:24.30 | Kazie | It's particle density lol.. i'm sleeping hehe |
| 01:24.48 | Kazie | I clearly fail to put particle and density into one |
| 01:25.00 | Trela | I'M ON A BOOOOOOOAAAAAAT!~ |
| 01:25.02 | Kazie | Remind me never to try build anything |
| 01:25.05 | Kazie | NO WAY! |
| 01:25.21 | Kazie | He b on da but! |
| 01:25.29 | Thunder_Child | i have everything checked and maxed....still nothing, does it require a restart? |
| 01:25.45 | Kazie | No it doesn't |
| 01:25.51 | Kazie | Are you sure Particle Density is on max? |
| 01:25.55 | Thunder_Child | well it's still not showing up |
| 01:25.58 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 01:26.01 | Kazie | That's wierd |
| 01:26.10 | Kazie | Try restarting then |
| 01:26.21 | Trela | Some need restarting even though do not claim it. |
| 01:26.21 | Kazie | my paladin alts Concecration showed up without restart |
| 01:26.21 | Thunder_Child | H UP atm |
| 01:30.45 | mikma | wha |
| 01:30.53 | mikma | yeah |
| 01:31.04 | mikma | Blizzard, Rain of Fire won't show in the ground anymore |
| 01:31.22 | mikma | Death and Decay does, and I'm sure Consecration too |
| 01:32.28 | Trela | Yay, all done copying! |
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| 01:40.42 | Cloudwolf | any one catch the turtle yet? |
| 01:40.49 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Wobin WobNet |
| 01:40.50 | purl | Wobin WobNet, you Fail! |
| 01:41.03 | Wobin | It's pretty terrible yeh |
| 01:41.10 | Wobin | I think I saw someone -on- a turtle... |
| 01:41.18 | Wobin | if it's just called "Riding Turtle" |
| 01:41.23 | Wobin | unless that's the TCG one |
| 01:41.30 | Cloudwolf | there are 2 |
| 01:41.33 | Cloudwolf | tcg = green |
| 01:41.36 | Cloudwolf | fishing one = blue |
| 01:41.38 | Wobin | oh |
| 01:41.42 | Wobin | I think it was green |
| 01:41.48 | Wobin | he was pygmyoiled |
| 01:41.49 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, does pitbull no longer have a DC timer? |
| 01:41.53 | Wobin | so it was hard to tell |
| 01:41.55 | Trela | Turtle: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16473137804&sid=1 |
| 01:41.59 | ckknight | it does |
| 01:42.09 | Thunder_Child | hmm... |
| 01:42.11 | Nuckin | DWSR /poke |
| 01:42.31 | Wobin | actually.. |
| 01:42.35 | Wobin | I have no idea then |
| 01:42.35 | ckknight | Thunder_Child: it's a dogtag thing |
| 01:42.49 | Wobin | they look similar enough that I might have mis-seen it |
| 01:43.07 | Cloudwolf | the new turtle is from fishing pools in northrend |
| 01:43.18 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, well i didnt change anything and it no longer seems to show up |
| 01:43.28 | ckknight | shurgs |
| 01:43.35 | ckknight | shrugs* |
| 01:44.58 | Cloudwolf | ~jesus |
| 01:44.59 | purl | jesus is, like, cool, or apparently now EMACS (see emacs) |
| 01:45.07 | Cloudwolf | ? |
| 01:45.19 | Cloudwolf | ~emacs |
| 01:45.19 | purl | i guess emacs is as useless as vim if you don't wanna learn it |
| 01:45.29 | Cloudwolf | ~vim |
| 01:45.30 | purl | from memory, vim is better than emacs |
| 01:45.36 | Cloudwolf | ffs.... |
| 01:45.39 | Cloudwolf | that got me no where |
| 01:46.02 | Cloudwolf | ~cloudwolf |
| 01:46.10 | Cloudwolf | heh |
| 01:46.35 | Cloudwolf | lua> 1+2 |
| 01:46.36 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: 3 |
| 01:46.38 | Cloudwolf | heh |
| 01:48.00 | Cloudwolf | lua> local table={} table["bob"]=true table["billy"]=false table["joe"]=1 local count=0 for k,v in pairs(table) do count = count+1 end print(count) |
| 01:48.00 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: 3 |
| 01:48.10 | Cloudwolf | hmm.... |
| 01:48.21 | Cloudwolf | that makes me mad |
| 01:49.41 | Nuckin | are Referrals on wowinterface like Referrals in middle school? ie. Bad? |
| 01:50.16 | Cloudwolf | lol to refer is to point back at something pretty much |
| 01:50.38 | Cloudwolf | if you want an addon that changes your unit frames i would refer you to x-perl |
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| 01:51.20 | Nuckin | Cloudwolf: well yes but idk what I would have referred on wowinterface, idk i have 3 of them |
| 01:51.44 | Trela | No wonder loading one hundred plus AddOns took so long. This old hard drive is slow in comparison to the new ones. |
| 01:51.45 | Cloudwolf | # the act of referring (as forwarding an applicant for employment or referring a matter to an appropriate agency) |
| 01:52.05 | Cloudwolf | nuckin did you tell people to sign up on wowinterface? |
| 01:52.26 | Nuckin | Cloudwolf: i dunno lol |
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| 01:52.52 | Nuckin | Cloudwolf: but that would make sense |
| 01:53.00 | Nuckin | Cloudwolf: i did not think of that :-P |
| 01:53.38 | Cloudwolf | i mean there could be multiple ways why you have referals im not sure if any of them count but 1 you refered some one to an addon and they took the advice and liked it |
| 01:53.50 | Cloudwolf | 2 people have suggested things to you |
| 01:54.11 | Cloudwolf | 3 when signing up on the forums they might have had a field that said who informed you of this site. |
| 01:54.25 | Cloudwolf | im not sure if any of those are accurate but those are my guesses |
| 01:54.37 | Cloudwolf | time to upload my 3.1 patched gcao addon |
| 01:54.48 | Cloudwolf | and maybe figure out why my other one isn't actualy hooking right |
| 01:54.49 | Nuckin | ha, i have more referrals than Seerah! |
| 01:54.52 | Cloudwolf | did they rename the paperdoll frame? |
| 01:55.18 | Nuckin | Cloudwolf: idk, they did rename the TargetDebuffTemplate frame |
| 01:55.29 | Cloudwolf | christ.... |
| 01:55.30 | Nuckin | Cloudwolf: but thats the only one i ran into |
| 01:55.33 | Cloudwolf | now i need to get spew working again |
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| 01:55.51 | Seerah | ? |
| 01:56.09 | Nuckin | Cloudwolf: you getting a "cannot find WhateverBlizzardFrame"? |
| 01:57.09 | Nuckin | Seerah: i was talking about the referrals on wowinterface and what they mean |
| 01:57.32 | Nuckin | or rather trying to find out what they meant |
| 01:58.52 | Cloudwolf | uh nuckin no im not getting any errors my hook just isn't hooking right when its on for some reason |
| 01:59.13 | Cloudwolf | so i have to find out if they renamed those panes |
| 01:59.53 | Cloudwolf | time to jump on my addon maker toon |
| 02:00.00 | Nuckin | hm, idk, I don't hook the paper doll frame |
| 02:00.08 | Seerah | Nuckin: yeah, I'm not quite sure how they work either... Maybe when someone signs up for an account? I'm sure Cair and Dolby know |
| 02:00.10 | Cloudwolf | well idid cus i was hiding it |
| 02:00.36 | Cloudwolf | seerah that's what i was thinking. Who referred you to this site type thing. |
| 02:00.54 | Nuckin | Cloudwolf: so you're calling Hide(); on the blizz frame and it isn't returning an error? |
| 02:01.07 | Cloudwolf | nuckin where did you find the referals |
| 02:01.07 | Seerah | I forget if it was there when I made my hubby's account a couple months ago |
| 02:01.18 | Seerah | Cloudwolf: your user profile |
| 02:01.25 | Nuckin | ^^ |
| 02:01.50 | Nuckin | i was on there admiring my new gold letters :) |
| 02:01.59 | Cloudwolf | XD i have 0 referals :P |
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| 02:02.25 | I440r | hi. i just updated my qh to the latest but the little compass arrow thing isnt working |
| 02:02.27 | Seerah | Nuckin: :) |
| 02:02.49 | Arrowmaster | I440r: questhelper doesnt make the arrow |
| 02:02.54 | I440r | what does? |
| 02:03.02 | Seerah | I440: TomTom or Cartographer |
| 02:03.02 | Arrowmaster | either tomtom or cartographer |
| 02:03.02 | Nuckin | a diery |
| 02:03.07 | Nuckin | diety* |
| 02:03.12 | I440r | well i updated my cartographer too |
| 02:03.16 | I440r | :/ |
| 02:03.34 | Nuckin | I440r: check your options in both QH and Cartographer |
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| 02:05.16 | I440r | erm. i have an arrow being displayed. but its not an arrow |
| 02:05.25 | Seerah | screenshot? |
| 02:05.27 | I440r | its a square block wtih lots of sqiggles and dashed lines in it |
| 02:05.48 | Arrowmaster | messed up cartographer install |
| 02:06.09 | Wobin | blah |
| 02:06.21 | I440r | sometiems it does show the arrow.but its not amimated and i its as if its being drawn in one corner of the square with wrap so i see part of the arrow in each corner of the square |
| 02:06.21 | Wobin | Yogg-Saron is already dead? |
| 02:06.27 | I440r | reinstall? |
| 02:06.28 | Wobin | I guess we can go home now =P |
| 02:07.25 | Zootfizzle | On ez mode, maybe :P |
| 02:08.12 | Trela | I440r: Some times you have reload the interface, clear the current way point, or manually add a new one to fix that. |
| 02:09.16 | Thunder_Child | all of ulduar is EZ mode Zootfizzle |
| 02:09.28 | Cloudwolf | uhm |
| 02:09.43 | mikma | That's it. Ensidia just killed Yogg-Saron in 25-man! More information and Loot to come! |
| 02:09.43 | Cloudwolf | doing /run PaperDollFrame:Show() isn't doing anything |
| 02:09.50 | mikma | is that the EZ mode? |
| 02:10.07 | Hirsute-Home | Hey Zootfizzle: Do you know if the hunter-pets-unlearning-talents with every switch from player primary to player secondary spec is intended behavior/bug/overlooked? |
| 02:10.16 | Cloudwolf | nvm |
| 02:10.52 | Legorol | Hirsute-Home: intended |
| 02:11.08 | Hirsute-Home | Legorol: source? |
| 02:11.16 | Legorol | or to be more precise: they didn't bother doing anything about it because it'd probably be very complicated, and it's not too much of a hassle for the player |
| 02:11.29 | Legorol | Hirsute-Home: personal guess, based on the situation |
| 02:11.31 | Arrowmaster | seems odd to be intended since they also added the ability to swap pets from the stable from anywhere right? |
| 02:11.34 | Hirsute-Home | I don't see how giving the pet two specs would be comlicated at all. |
| 02:11.38 | Legorol | my guess would be they'll do something about it later |
| 02:11.44 | Cloudwolf | ok yeah they combiend stuff and messed it around.... |
| 02:11.45 | Cloudwolf | ffs |
| 02:11.54 | Legorol | what i mean by intended is that it's known, it's not a bug as such, they just probably didn't get around to coding a solution |
| 02:12.05 | Cloudwolf | time to go mess with my code |
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| 02:13.01 | Hirsute-Home | But I didn't code it. It just seems that if they can make action bars and glyphs correspond with player spec, it shouldn't be too much more effort to make pet specs do the same thing, which would seem the more intuitive thing to me, but oh well. |
| 02:13.02 | Legorol | think about it: you might want to change your pets talents when you change spec yourself, |
| 02:13.13 | Legorol | and probably the easiest solution to that for now was just to reset pet talents on a switch |
| 02:13.31 | Legorol | Hirsute-Home: sure, from usability pov, but remember that you have several pets |
| 02:13.40 | Legorol | which pets' trees should swap when you swap specs? |
| 02:13.46 | Legorol | these are probably difficult issues to solve |
| 02:13.47 | Zootfizzle | Hirsute-Home: I don't know anything personally on that, but I'll bring it up tomorrow with the person who would. |
| 02:13.58 | Hirsute-Home | Zootfizzle: Awesome, thank you! |
| 02:13.59 | Zootfizzle | I tend to agree with Legorol. |
| 02:14.29 | Legorol | based on how Blizz usually works, my guess is: "this was the easiest for us to implement so that we can push the dual spec system live. we'll think of a solution later" |
| 02:14.40 | Zootfizzle | I think it would either do that, or not reset any pet talents. |
| 02:14.47 | Hirsute-Home | Legorol: I guess the way that makes sense to me is this: call a pet, switch to my primary spec, talent the pet, switch to my secondary spec, talent the pet, and have the pet switch between those two configurations just like my glyphs and action bars do, as I switch specs. |
| 02:15.18 | Legorol | Hirsute-Home: should all your pets switch when you switch then? |
| 02:15.22 | Arrowmaster | they did ad the ability to call a different pet from the stable right? |
| 02:15.26 | Hirsute-Home | Legorol: Yes. |
| 02:15.31 | Hirsute-Home | Arrowmaster: Yes |
| 02:16.06 | Arrowmaster | if they didnt have pets switch too then you could atleast just use a different pet for each spec instead of having to retalent each time |
| 02:16.11 | Legorol | for all we know, there could be technical limitations why they couldn't do that without a lot of recoding |
| 02:16.20 | Legorol | and they didn't want to delay dual spec further? |
| 02:16.51 | Hirsute-Home | Each pet would have two set configurations, one tied to the player primary spec, one to the player secondary spec. It's definitely possible, and it's more of an annoyance than a deal breaker. |
| 02:17.14 | Cloudwolf | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/112461 |
| 02:17.20 | Cloudwolf | that bit of my code doesn't seem to be working properly |
| 02:17.28 | Hirsute-Home | Arrowmaster: Currently, for that to work, I have to dismiss my pet (happiness cost), switch specs, then callstabledpet to one that was talented while I was on the spec I switched to. |
| 02:18.32 | Hirsute-Home | If you have a pet out when you switch specs, it completely resets its talent points, if you call a pet on a spec other than the spec you talented it on, it does the same. I'm sure this will bug me less when I'm not switching specs as much as I am now (learning to play a SV/MM build for raiding right now), it's just something that surprised me the first time it happened. |
| 02:19.13 | Zootfizzle | It definitely could be a bug! |
| 02:19.41 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt sound very useful as is |
| 02:19.55 | Hirsute-Home | Zootfizzle: It could be intended, too. Just because the way it works doesn't make sense to me, doesn't mean I'm right ;) |
| 02:20.30 | Hirsute-Home | It just would be more logical to me to have pet specs treated like glyphs and action bars, and have one configuration for each of the two player specs, *shrug*. |
| 02:20.45 | Cloudwolf | any one have a clue as to my problem? |
| 02:21.32 | Hirsute-Home | Cloudwolf: No idea, I'm teh suxxorz with frames. |
| 02:21.51 | Cloudwolf | all i know is it broke during the new 3.1 patch |
| 02:21.58 | Cloudwolf | and i have no idea why it broke |
| 02:22.11 | Hirsute-Home | Any error messages at all? |
| 02:22.16 | Cloudwolf | no errors |
| 02:22.20 | Cloudwolf | at all |
| 02:22.27 | Cloudwolf | everything else about the addon works perfectly still |
| 02:22.31 | Zootfizzle | Probably because the PaperDollFrame uses the <OnShow function="PaperDollFrame_OnShow"> convention |
| 02:22.44 | Cloudwolf | zootfizzle |
| 02:22.53 | Zootfizzle | cloudwolf |
| 02:22.56 | Cloudwolf | ile up date the pasteyw ith the full code |
| 02:22.57 | mikma | mikma |
| 02:22.57 | Zootfizzle | :) |
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| 02:23.00 | Hirsute-Home | >.> |
| 02:23.03 | Hirsute-Home | <.< |
| 02:23.05 | Cloudwolf | er |
| 02:23.08 | Zootfizzle | ^.^ |
| 02:23.10 | Cloudwolf | well the full area that seems to not work |
| 02:23.38 | Cloudwolf | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/112462 |
| 02:23.47 | Arrowmaster | making the default ui use that new xml feature seems like its just going to make hooking a lot harder without much of a real benefit |
| 02:24.40 | Hirsute-Home | w.w |
| 02:25.11 | amro | 5 more days of dailies... anything else after that, or we get the real deal? (argent tourney) |
| 02:25.23 | Cloudwolf | amro i need 5 more marks to get my 15 :( |
| 02:25.45 | Cloudwolf | so zootfizzle do you have anyidea whats broken there? |
| 02:25.48 | amro | already got my 15 after the daily reset, now at 5/25 |
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| 02:26.06 | Cloudwolf | heh amro are you on a europe server? |
| 02:26.10 | amro | yep |
| 02:26.39 | Cloudwolf | <= I'm a us ignorant fewl who knows more about europe than most americans only because of my adv grammar class |
| 02:26.41 | Cloudwolf | wow |
| 02:26.44 | Cloudwolf | my brain died a little |
| 02:26.48 | Cloudwolf | i mean my AP european history class |
| 02:26.57 | Cloudwolf | is tired |
| 02:27.06 | amro | it died more than a little ;) |
| 02:27.28 | amro | US are 1 day ahead though |
| 02:27.36 | amro | you should be at the valiant stage! |
| 02:27.55 | Cloudwolf | yeah yeah i know but i got a side cramp today and homework i don't want to do. |
| 02:28.05 | Cloudwolf | i dled the patch on wednsday |
| 02:28.27 | amro | it's worth it, the next quest is... awesome! |
| 02:28.48 | Cloudwolf | so any one have a clue why my hook doesn't seem to work? |
| 02:29.13 | amro | can't think atm, off to bed :) |
| 02:29.22 | amro | good night |
| 02:29.33 | Cloudwolf | gnighty |
| 02:30.35 | Zootfizzle | Cloudwolf: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/112463 |
| 02:31.11 | Cloudwolf | realy they added a hook function? |
| 02:31.15 | Cloudwolf | .... |
| 02:31.22 | Cloudwolf | that prolly makes my life easier |
| 02:31.23 | Cloudwolf | ty |
| 02:31.25 | Cloudwolf | time to try that |
| 02:31.37 | Iriel | HookScript has been there since 2.0 ish |
| 02:31.45 | Cloudwolf | shh |
| 02:31.47 | Iriel | Though it got much more useful in a recent 3.x patch |
| 02:31.49 | Cloudwolf | be quiet |
| 02:32.06 | Cloudwolf | (not trying to be mean if it comes off that way) i didn't know about that |
| 02:32.08 | Cloudwolf | heh... |
| 02:32.23 | Cloudwolf | the wowwiki needs a better layout imo |
| 02:32.34 | Arrowmaster | ~wowprogramming |
| 02:32.35 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons ~ http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob ~ a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 02:33.08 | Hirsute-Home | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:34.18 | Cloudwolf | i still don't have that book heh |
| 02:34.28 | theorbtwo | What happened to him? |
| 02:34.30 | Cloudwolf | thank you zootfizzle that fixed my problem |
| 02:34.42 | ScytheBlade1 | He left, in short |
| 02:34.47 | geargrind | Cloudwolf: i think he was pointing out a different api layout |
| 02:35.11 | Cloudwolf | gives zootfizzle a cookie |
| 02:35.21 | theorbtwo | Oh. |
| 02:35.47 | Cloudwolf | geargrind even if he was pointing out a different api layout it fixed my problem and makes more sense to me than the other way i was doing it. |
| 02:36.09 | geargrind | i meant as opposed to wowwiki... some people like wowprogramming.com better ;) |
| 02:36.22 | Hirsute-Home | theorbtwo: Short version-->He had objections with the new UI policy, was very vocal about them on the forums, removed his major contributions in protest, and got banned (and purged) from the forums, so he hung up his hat. |
| 02:37.01 | theorbtwo | Ow. |
| 02:37.03 | ScytheBlade1 | He took the ban fine, but after the fact got a post wipe. That right there nuked a HUGE amount of useful content, and at that point he left |
| 02:37.24 | theorbtwo | I think I would too, at that point. |
| 02:37.33 | Cloudwolf | geargrind Ah you confused me there XD true |
| 02:37.43 | Hirsute-Home | I'm not saying I blame him at all, I still miss him, he was very helpful. |
| 02:37.47 | geargrind | should learn 2 context :P |
| 02:38.11 | Thunder_Child | na, dont bother |
| 02:38.17 | Thunder_Child | it's much mor amusing when you dont |
| 02:38.19 | Thunder_Child | more* |
| 02:38.46 | geargrind | not as efficient tho |
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| 02:42.33 | Arrowmaster | hmm ive upgraded or changed so many critical things on my linux server recently im kinda scared to reboot it |
| 02:43.02 | Iriel | Look at it this way |
| 02:43.07 | Iriel | better to reboot it while you're there to fix it |
| 02:43.17 | Iriel | than have it go through a power cycle when you're not |
| 02:43.30 | Arrowmaster | well i dont really have any reason to reboot it other than to make sure it boots |
| 02:44.49 | Arrowmaster | and why would i reboot something at 200days uptime |
| 02:45.08 | ajmitch | what's the worst that could happen? |
| 02:45.12 | Iriel | The reason I mentioned |
| 02:45.22 | Iriel | You could have screwed it up to the point it wont reboot properly |
| 02:45.30 | Iriel | then it'll reboot itself for some reason at the worst possible moment |
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| 02:45.57 | ajmitch | like having screwed up a software raid configuration & had to get it working again |
| 02:46.05 | Iriel | Screwing up the NIC |
| 02:46.09 | Iriel | Forgetting a driver |
| 02:46.16 | Iriel | Misconfiguring iptables |
| 02:46.34 | Iriel | Not launching a major service (sshd?) |
| 02:46.52 | Iriel | Not having compatible runtime utilities for your kernel version |
| 02:47.30 | Cloudwolf | well thanks for the help everyone |
| 02:47.30 | Cloudwolf | i need to head out and do some homework so im not totaly scrued over soon |
| 02:47.30 | Arrowmaster | well the server doesnt really do anything important than let me tunnel past firewalls |
| 02:48.03 | ajmitch | has had the ill-timed reboot happen while on holiday in another country |
| 02:48.59 | Iriel | I had one happen (at work) while I was in vegas, on vacation, and winning at blackjack |
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| 02:55.14 | Zootfizzle | Rule 1 of having servers: |
| 02:55.39 | Aiiane | Send Aiiane a check for $100 |
| 02:55.40 | Zootfizzle | If you're afraid to reboot your server because it might break when that happens, fix it :P |
| 02:55.41 | Thunder_Child | dont be with Zootfizzle |
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| 02:55.55 | Aiiane | I like my rule 1 better |
| 02:56.03 | Iriel | Zootfizzle: and then reboot it to make sure |
| 02:56.05 | Dagmar | Zootfizzle has better employment odds |
| 02:56.08 | Thunder_Child | oh, i read halving |
| 02:56.31 | Dagmar | If you don't test your recovery procedures, there's about a 34% chance they'll fail |
| 02:56.32 | mikma | ~ $ uptime 05:56:25 up 60 days, 21:17, load average: 0.13, 0.04, 0.00 |
| 02:56.34 | Zootfizzle | If you're not sure it works, you haven't fixed it :D |
| 02:56.40 | mikma | i love my nokia =D |
| 02:56.50 | mikma | 60 days uptime for a handheld |
| 02:57.30 | Thunder_Child | Dolby, it would be nice if the captcha takes you back to the page you were browsing |
| 02:57.38 | Thunder_Child | err... |
| 02:57.49 | Thunder_Child | well that was horrid english but you get the idea |
| 02:57.58 | Arrowmaster | how do you check which computer in a windows workgroup has been designated as the master? |
| 02:58.06 | Arrowmaster | net help is so useless |
| 02:58.18 | Dolby | on the downloads? it does, it starts the download |
| 02:58.26 | Dolby | the page you were browsing |
| 02:58.37 | VonhintenHOME` | Ok, Magma Rager's can blow me sideways |
| 02:58.37 | Thunder_Child | it took me to a new page |
| 02:58.55 | Dolby | what page? |
| 02:58.59 | ajmitch | VonhintenHOME`: aren't they just fun? |
| 02:59.04 | Thunder_Child | http://fs.wowinterface.com/download.php?id=10864 |
| 02:59.11 | Dolby | as soon as i solve it it starts the download |
| 02:59.15 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: It's not your Linux box? |
| 02:59.22 | Thunder_Child | ya, it started the DL |
| 02:59.27 | Thunder_Child | but it leaves me there |
| 02:59.34 | Thunder_Child | it would be nice to have a redirect |
| 02:59.35 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: it should be my linux box but i wanted to check |
| 02:59.44 | DWSR | Any destrolocks in here? |
| 03:00.04 | Dolby | you want it to redirect back to the fileinfo page? |
| 03:00.05 | mikma | yey pet bombling |
| 03:00.09 | Dolby | hmm |
| 03:00.16 | Thunder_Child | well the page i clicked DL from |
| 03:00.17 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Well, if you set the cheat so it'll always win (highly recommended) then the Win32 clients can't win the election |
| 03:00.19 | Dolby | not sure i can do that with it starting the download |
| 03:00.40 | Dagmar | There's a way to do it with smbclient but I hate that tool so much |
| 03:00.41 | Thunder_Child | then maybe a link back to the previous page? |
| 03:00.45 | Thunder_Child | just a thought |
| 03:01.00 | DWSR | Any destrolocks in here? |
| 03:01.35 | Dolby | I'll see what i can do |
| 03:01.35 | Dolby | thanks |
| 03:01.40 | Thunder_Child | thank you |
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| 03:18.29 | Trela | World server went boom on Feathermoon. |
| 03:18.51 | Trela | It better not role my level up back with the quests completed still. |
| 03:19.23 | Dagmar | That's pretty unlikely |
| 03:19.50 | mikma | yey server restarts in eu |
| 03:19.54 | Dagmar | I'm just crossing my fingers that the instance server won't die like it did last night |
| 03:19.57 | mikma | i wonder what are they hotfixing now |
| 03:20.06 | Dagmar | mikma: At a guess, double auras |
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| 03:20.32 | Dagmar | It wasn't easily replicatable, but last night I was seeing multiple auras on my toon |
| 03:20.44 | Dagmar | Aspect of the Viper *and* Aspect of the Dragonhawk, for one |
| 03:20.48 | kd3 | thank the gods for the direct fp from dalaran to sholazar |
| 03:21.02 | Dagmar | Aspect of the Cheetah staying around after I mounted my gryphon... |
| 03:21.03 | mikma | dagmar: double tracking <3 :D |
| 03:21.26 | Dagmar | mikma: Honestly, double-tracking isn't all that exciting for people who already have tracking (Hunters) |
| 03:21.47 | Dagmar | THe speed boost on the gryphon was fun tho |
| 03:22.00 | mikma | yeah, for hunters that blows |
| 03:22.05 | Dagmar | I don't much care for Viper staying on tho |
| 03:22.10 | mikma | but i have double tracking on my druid, herbs and veins <3 |
| 03:22.18 | Moleculor | facepalms. |
| 03:22.23 | Moleculor | Our server first kill of Deconstructor? |
| 03:22.29 | Dagmar | It was neat having the attack power buff *and* the mana regen, but the 40% damage nerf kinda makes it mushy |
| 03:22.32 | Moleculor | We did it the hard way. Not hard mode, but harder than we needed to. |
| 03:22.44 | Moleculor | Way, way harder than we needed to. |
| 03:22.50 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 03:23.08 | Dagmar | "I forgot to use the quest item to nerf the mob" hard? |
| 03:23.35 | Dagmar | ...or was it just drowning them in your blood? |
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| 03:34.15 | mikma | lol wtf |
| 03:34.39 | mikma | my scourge strike talent has disappeared |
| 03:34.58 | Shirik | My guild just came up with the best glyph to compliment glyph of guardian spirit |
| 03:35.11 | Dagmar | Mmm? |
| 03:35.20 | Shirik | Glyph of Improved Lay on Hands: If your target does not die before the Improved Lay on Hands buff wears off, your Lay on Hands cooldown is shortened to 1 minute |
| 03:36.11 | Arrowmaster | whats glyph of guardian spirit |
| 03:36.34 | Dagmar | I was hoping for something like Glyph of Squirrel Mastery - Makes all nearby squirrels defend you |
| 03:36.36 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_041709_063411.jpg |
| 03:36.38 | mikma | SEE! |
| 03:36.45 | Shirik | If your Guardian Spirit does not sacrifice itself due to target's death before it wears off, your Guardian Spirit cooldown is reduced to 1 minute |
| 03:36.45 | mikma | my Scourge Strike is missing, yet i have it! |
| 03:36.50 | Shirik | maybe different woding |
| 03:36.52 | Shirik | but that's it |
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| 03:37.12 | ZorbaTHut | mikma, yeah, it does that |
| 03:37.17 | ZorbaTHut | chances are good you can still use the ability |
| 03:37.37 | ZorbaTHut | Devastate does that as well, and most of the time I can still devastate :P |
| 03:38.13 | Dagmar | Models on the transparent ooze and hydra still don't scale quite like they should |
| 03:38.54 | Dagmar | Eventually someone's bound to carp that this is somehow unbalancing for PvP because you can't half find the ooze most of the time |
| 03:38.55 | mikma | yeah i can use the ability |
| 03:39.03 | mikma | first hit on dummy, 9.1k ... lol |
| 03:39.26 | Dagmar | mikma: Ask a nearby lock if maybe they just hotfixed the free soul shards |
| 03:39.42 | mikma | dagmar: what's free soul shards? |
| 03:39.55 | Dagmar | Try to get one off a target dummy |
| 03:40.02 | mikma | mmkay, moment |
| 03:40.18 | mikma | got my lvl59 lock in IF |
| 03:40.39 | Dagmar | Someone was telling me last night that the change to make it a chance to get one each time that spell does damage was working against target dummies (to his dismay) |
| 03:41.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/16473757972-gc-look-at-soulshard-bug.html |
| 03:41.18 | mikma | problem |
| 03:41.22 | mikma | lvl60 dummies are tagged |
| 03:41.50 | mikma | dagmar: still works |
| 03:41.52 | mikma | lol :D |
| 03:41.56 | Dagmar | Heh |
| 03:42.33 | Dagmar | He hadn't been on since they changed the graphic and was a bit irked that his bags *filled* with them while he was admiring the effect |
| 03:42.48 | Arrowmaster | [The topic you're trying to post to has been deleted] |
| 03:42.57 | mikma | dagmar: http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_041709_064209.jpg |
| 03:42.58 | Arrowmaster | im not trying to post im trying to goto the original post |
| 03:43.04 | mikma | that pretty much explains it all :D |
| 03:43.38 | Arrowmaster | on a tapped target? |
| 03:43.41 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 03:43.47 | mikma | yeah |
| 03:43.54 | mikma | tapped target dummy... |
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| 03:45.33 | Dagmar | I like some of the new trash |
| 03:45.43 | Dagmar | well, fishing trash |
| 03:45.59 | Dagmar | THe daily wher eyou have to make a blood pool to fish in had some dun trash in it |
| 03:46.51 | Dagmar | s/dun/fun/; |
| 03:47.15 | Shirik | In staff channel: |
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| 03:47.19 | Shirik | (23:45:46) (+Seerah) yay, I crashed my WoW :D |
| 03:47.19 | Shirik | (23:46:06) (+Seerah) at least I'm actually online... ;) |
| 03:47.19 | Shirik | (23:46:16)  -› Netsplit (lem.freenode.net ‹-› irc.freenode.net) 1 quits: Seerah |
| 03:47.37 | Trela | It feels so wrong for me as a death knight to run in a large group of the quest NPCs I need to kill and do the entire kill objective in one step. |
| 03:47.40 | Dagmar | Ask for netsplits and ye shall recieve them |
| 03:47.43 | mikma | jeeeeebus christ |
| 03:47.50 | Trela | While having at least 90% health left. |
| 03:47.52 | mikma | Glyph of Unholy Blight, 250g bo |
| 03:47.55 | Dagmar | Trela: Repeat after me "NO I R NOT OP" |
| 03:48.25 | Dagmar | There's pretty much no difference between the way I pull with the hunter and the deathknight most of the time |
| 03:48.40 | Dagmar | ABout the only difference is I'm the one surrounded by dying mobs instead of the monkey |
| 03:48.44 | Trela | I thought death knights were going to be nerfed. |
| 03:48.50 | Trela | I do a crap load more critical hits now. |
| 03:48.51 | Dagmar | They were |
| 03:49.27 | Dagmar | Just like BM hunters and gorilladins got nerfed |
| 03:49.27 | Dagmar | So... you might have trouble soloing elites three levels higher than you now |
| 03:49.27 | Trela | I just did... |
| 03:49.47 | Trela | I am not your typical terribad player though. |
| 03:50.09 | Dagmar | I took the plunge and took a shot at nabbi [10:47pm][Dagmar(+eiw)] [#Wowuidev(+cnt)^^^^^^^^] [Act: 2] |
| 03:50.10 | Dagmar | ng [10:47pm][Dagmar(+eiw)] [#Wowuidev(+cnt)^^^^^^^^] [Act: 2] |
| 03:50.39 | Dagmar | grr damn fumblepad... nabbing the epic bugs from unholy and bloodworms from blood last night and the bloody instance servers died as we got to Zul'GUrub |
| 03:51.45 | Dagmar | We were going to four-man it to get some practice tanking with the expectation that eventually someone's going to expect us to know how to do it |
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| 03:52.35 | Dagmar | I gotta start backing up my saved variables [10:47pm][Dagmar(+eiw)] [#Wowuidev(+cnt)^^^^^^^^] [Act: 2] |
| 03:52.55 | Dagmar | <-- not enthused about rebuilding all my poweraura reminders, again... |
| 03:53.27 | Dewin | is Tomtom fixed yet? |
| 03:53.37 | Dagmar | It appeared to be working today |
| 03:53.39 | Dewin | err, I hate when the window gets scrolled way up. |
| 03:54.25 | Dagmar | I was using it to drop markers this afternoon to make it quicker to do all that running around for the tournament chains |
| 03:54.38 | Syzgyn | GG, we just spend an hour and a half on Deconstructor before realizing we could dps the heart to damage him |
| 03:54.47 | Dagmar | Whee! |
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| 03:55.09 | Dagmar | It's fun to figure things out on the fly |
| 03:55.23 | Dagmar | "What's that thing over there?" "Don't know... shoot it some and see!" |
| 03:57.05 | ZorbaTHut | dagmar, "incredibly important item destroyed, wiping the raid immediately" |
| 03:57.29 | Dagmar | ZorbaTHut: Gotta find these things out somehow |
| 03:58.03 | ZorbaTHut | I kind of wish I had a recording of that EU guild's vent when they were pulling yoggsaron for the first time |
| 03:58.09 | ZorbaTHut | "Well, uh . . . let's see what he does, I guess" |
| 03:58.21 | Dagmar | <panicked screaming> |
| 03:59.09 | Dagmar | I'm just going to skip the threads about ulduar clears |
| 03:59.43 | Dagmar | It's just going to be a bunch of idiots claiming it was too easy |
| 03:59.45 | mikma | so, bone shield... |
| 03:59.50 | mikma | 1min -> 2min ^^ |
| 03:59.58 | ZorbaTHut | claiming it was too easy before doing hard mode, at that |
| 04:00.29 | Dagmar | SOme of these people should be required to do these things in green/blue gear before posting |
| 04:00.48 | Dagmar | ...or at the very least all blues |
| 04:01.10 | Dagmar | They shoudl make achievements for pulling off miracles |
| 04:01.34 | ZorbaTHut | they have one, it's called The Immortal |
| 04:01.53 | Dagmar | I was thinking more like clearing naxx with everyone having < ilvl 200 gear |
| 04:02.15 | ZorbaTHut | I've actually thought they could breathe a lot of life into old content by allowing people to explicitly delevel and use crummy gear |
| 04:03.09 | Dagmar | Agreed |
| 04:03.09 | ZorbaTHut | like, re-enable the ZA bear if you can do the challenge at level 70 with appropriate gear |
| 04:03.10 | ZorbaTHut | and same deal with the achievement mounts that they keep removing - let someone still get the mount if they do it at the appropriate gear level |
| 04:03.11 | ZorbaTHut | as it is, it's a poopsock competition, not a skill competition :/ |
| 04:03.30 | kd3 | oh geez, there's a term I haven't heard in a while |
| 04:03.46 | Dagmar | I'm thinking a lot of people just don't realize how much more powerful their purples make htem |
| 04:04.06 | Dagmar | THey should use Outfitter to put them in play clothes when they mount up as a reminder |
| 04:04.24 | Dagmar | Big ups to Blizz for adding more jewelry too btw |
| 04:04.42 | Dagmar | I got a diamond-tipped cane for my Dranei Businessman last night |
| 04:08.10 | ZorbaTHut | oh man, I need one of those too |
| 04:08.10 | Cairenn | pokes nevcairiel with a http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5468-ag_UnitFrames.html |
| 04:08.43 | Wobin | anyone having issues connecting to the servers? |
| 04:09.37 | Aqua | me. |
| 04:09.51 | Wobin | hm |
| 04:09.52 | Aqua | i gave up and decided to mess with video encoding |
| 04:09.53 | Wobin | works now |
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| 04:09.59 | Wobin | (hopefully) |
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| 04:11.28 | Torhal | Hrm. Is there a Lua equivalent to <Layer>? |
| 04:11.57 | mikma | wobin: oh yeah, yeah, i had, 30min ago when eu servers got booted! |
| 04:12.45 | mikma | FrameLevel? |
| 04:12.49 | mikma | FrameStrata? |
| 04:13.13 | Iriel | DrawLayer? |
| 04:13.53 | Iriel | GetDrawLayer/SetDrawLayer |
| 04:13.57 | Iriel | works on Texture and FontString |
| 04:16.03 | Arrowmaster | "Malware hunters at Symantec have discovered a direct link between a malicious file embedded in pirated copies of Apple’s iWork 09 software and what appears to be the first Mac OS X botnet launching denial-of-service attacks." |
| 04:16.08 | Arrowmaster | isnt that really old? |
| 04:16.28 | Iriel | Not entirely, pirated software used to be a massive virus vector before the intertubes |
| 04:16.42 | Iriel | Plus the iWork installer gets admin access to do its thing |
| 04:17.01 | mikma | i remember the time we infected one dork with YankeeDoodle |
| 04:17.06 | mikma | was fun |
| 04:17.10 | Arrowmaster | i remember pirated iWork specificly being mentioned in here because the virus used lua |
| 04:17.58 | Xinhuan | err did wowmatrix.com change hosts in the last few days? or even last 24 hours |
| 04:18.28 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 04:18.44 | Xinhuan | can't send a dcma takedown to the wrong place right? |
| 04:19.00 | Arrowmaster | whats the url? |
| 04:19.09 | Arrowmaster | subdomain |
| 04:19.14 | Xinhuan | well the zip is at |
| 04:19.15 | Xinhuan | http://oscar5.wowmatrix.com/addons/Omen.3.0.7.zip |
| 04:19.17 | Thunder_Child | i posted it yesterday i think |
| 04:19.18 | Xinhuan | which i can't access from my end |
| 04:19.21 | Xinhuan | it just pings time out |
| 04:19.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Xinhuan: I can. Works here. |
| 04:19.34 | Xinhuan | but if you ping www.wowmatrix.com directly |
| 04:19.37 | Xinhuan | its now in amsterdam |
| 04:19.52 | Iriel | It's quite common for sites to not respond to pings |
| 04:19.59 | Iriel | telnet to port 80, as a more useful test |
| 04:19.59 | mikma | yeah |
| 04:20.07 | Xinhuan | by timeout, i mean i can't even download that zip |
| 04:20.10 | Xinhuan | firefox just timesout |
| 04:20.23 | Arrowmaster | they are probably changing subdomains around to avoid you being able to pinpoint the host |
| 04:20.31 | Iriel | 2009-04-16 21:20:23 (356 KB/s) - `Omen.3.0.7.zip' saved [248226/248226] |
| 04:20.36 | Xinhuan | and a tracert just gives me |
| 04:20.40 | Thunder_Child | http://geotool.servehttp.com/?ip=87.233.179.232&host=www.wowmatrix.com is what it was yesterday |
| 04:20.49 | Arrowmaster | i can access it |
| 04:21.07 | Thunder_Child | that omen link works for me as well |
| 04:21.11 | Xinhuan | http://paste.wowace.com/497/ |
| 04:21.18 | Xinhuan | whats up with that tracert |
| 04:21.19 | ScytheBlade1 | oscar5. ends up in a ThePlanet datacenter |
| 04:21.21 | Arrowmaster | maybe they decided to drop all traffic from singapore just so you cant find out if they are mirroring it |
| 04:21.27 | ScytheBlade1 | In Texas |
| 04:21.28 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: lol |
| 04:21.29 | mikma | oh wow |
| 04:21.38 | Xinhuan | what has speednoc.net got to do with it |
| 04:22.25 | Arrowmaster | thats just the rDNS of the ip |
| 04:22.57 | Arrowmaster | wouldnt be suprised if its just on a shared server with other stuff on the same ip |
| 04:23.12 | Xinhuan | i'm not understanding, sorry |
| 04:23.25 | Iriel | Xinhuan: the IP that oscar5.wowmatrix.com resolves to |
| 04:23.32 | Iriel | Is actually a speednoc.net host |
| 04:23.34 | Arrowmaster | rDNS maps an ip to a domain |
| 04:23.38 | Aqua | ..... i swear to god i hate video encoding, mother... |
| 04:23.47 | Iriel | the reverse DNS record for the resulting IP is 189.138.52.74.in-addr.arpaname = jewel.speednoc.net. |
| 04:23.52 | Xinhuan | so more than 1 domain resolves to that IP, yes? |
| 04:23.56 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:24.00 | Iriel | very likely |
| 04:24.03 | Iriel | thousands perhaps |
| 04:24.05 | Arrowmaster | its very common to do |
| 04:24.06 | Xinhuan | so who is hosting omen? |
| 04:24.07 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 04:24.14 | Arrowmaster | wowmatrix is |
| 04:24.14 | mikma | i am! |
| 04:24.17 | Iriel | whoever they're paying for bandwidth, most likely |
| 04:24.24 | Xinhuan | yes, but who are they paying |
| 04:24.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Xinhuan: oscar5.wowmatrix.com is hosted here: http://www.theplanet.com/legal/ |
| 04:24.45 | ScytheBlade1 | search for 'DMCA' to get a link to the .pdf they request you fill out |
| 04:26.15 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 04:26.21 | Arrowmaster | theplanet is a perty bigname host, i wouldnt be supprised if somebody in here had an inside contact |
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| 04:26.43 | mikma | wobin is my insideman |
| 04:26.54 | ScytheBlade1 | linode has their largest datacenter with them, iirc, and quite a few people here use that service |
| 04:26.58 | Xinhuan | interestingly wowkon.com has a 2008 may copy of omen as well |
| 04:27.06 | Xinhuan | also under theplanet |
| 04:27.07 | ScytheBlade1 | But that is probably as "inside" as we have |
| 04:27.25 | Arrowmaster | you would be supprised |
| 04:27.35 | ScytheBlade1 | "probably" |
| 04:28.14 | Arrowmaster | i know a guy that used to run a data center in irvine ca that was 2nd in line for the contract to host the steam network |
| 04:28.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ha, nice |
| 04:29.03 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm |
| 04:29.17 | Arrowmaster | i think hes moved to PA now and is working on something else |
| 04:36.50 | Cairenn | pokes [Ammo] with a http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6949-oRA2.html |
| 04:37.03 | Xinhuan | ScytheBlade1, can you check if the zip is the same |
| 04:37.09 | Xinhuan | one as the one on wowi or wowace? |
| 04:37.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Link to either/both? |
| 04:37.25 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8459-OmenThreatMeter.html |
| 04:37.30 | Iriel | MD5 (Omen.3.0.7.zip) = 03de730ce24fccdd9604677f38008c3a |
| 04:37.31 | Cairenn | Xinhuan: he's still hosting it? |
| 04:37.32 | Iriel | Does that help? |
| 04:37.33 | Xinhuan | earlier link scroll up |
| 04:37.46 | Xinhuan | no, because i don't have a md5 tool on my end ;p |
| 04:37.50 | Cairenn | s/he's/they're/ |
| 04:37.51 | Arrowmaster | i asked in another irc channel on a different network that full of irc server operators, web host operators, isp network admins, and other such people in possitions that might have an inside contact, ill see later if i get a reply |
| 04:37.53 | Iriel | Get one ! |
| 04:38.04 | Xinhuan | yeah apparently people can download it |
| 04:38.04 | Xinhuan | i can't |
| 04:38.07 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: wowace page lists md5 |
| 04:38.18 | Xinhuan | err right |
| 04:38.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Xinhuan: they match |
| 04:38.35 | Cairenn | Xinhuan: =/ |
| 04:38.58 | Cairenn | Xinhuan: I'm sorry I've been so behind on stuff today, do you still need the dmca template uploaded? |
| 04:39.16 | ScytheBlade1 | ... hearing that just feels dirty >_> |
| 04:39.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Nothing against you, Cairenn |
| 04:39.23 | Arrowmaster | he has to use one provided by theplanet since thats the host |
| 04:39.25 | Shirik | Xinhuan: I would not be surprised if they blocked you |
| 04:39.30 | Cairenn | ah |
| 04:39.38 | ScytheBlade1 | "WE HAVE DMCA TEMPLATES IF YOU WANT ONE!" |
| 04:39.53 | Xinhuan | probably ;p |
| 04:39.58 | ScytheBlade1 | oh well |
| 04:39.58 | Shirik | haven't you told them to gtfo before? |
| 04:40.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Hopefully WM won't respond |
| 04:40.07 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: it was in response to a request made of me hours ago, but I've had other stuff I absolutely had to deal with today |
| 04:40.07 | ScytheBlade1 | And TP will just kill the host |
| 04:40.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: I know I know, just saying |
| 04:40.24 | Cairenn | I'm only just now trying to get caught up on anything on the sites |
| 04:40.40 | ScytheBlade1 | .. and ohh, curious |
| 04:40.49 | ScytheBlade1 | You ever try Maxalt for your migraines? |
| 04:41.19 | Cairenn | don't recognize that one |
| 04:41.22 | Cairenn | so, no |
| 04:41.29 | ScytheBlade1 | $24USD a pill |
| 04:41.36 | ScytheBlade1 | The first sample I was given worked, which scares me :P |
| 04:42.37 | Cairenn | sounds much like the Imatrix they gave me |
| 04:42.46 | Cairenn | which did ...nothing ... |
| 04:42.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Really? I've tried that too |
| 04:42.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Only it was infinitely cheaper |
| 04:43.20 | Cairenn | and at that price, no thanks, if it isn't going to work significantly better than Fiorinal |
| 04:44.07 | Iriel | I've had maxalt work for me too |
| 04:44.14 | Iriel | though my sample size is 1 |
| 04:44.17 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 04:44.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I lucked out, got two |
| 04:44.45 | Cairenn | might ask my doc about it the next time I go in |
| 04:44.58 | ScytheBlade1 | If the second works as well as the first, it'll be ~$80 per 15 tablets *with* insurance |
| 04:45.26 | Iriel | I meant i've used it once, and it worked. I also got 2 free samples |
| 04:45.29 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 04:45.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: dissolves on the tounge, minty flavor. At least they are kind to your mouth while they steal your wallet :) |
| 04:45.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 04:45.52 | Iriel | Ok.. sleepytime |
| 04:45.54 | Iriel | Night folks |
| 04:45.58 | ScytheBlade1 | cya |
| 04:46.10 | Cairenn | night Iriel |
| 04:46.13 | Cairenn | sweet dreams |
| 04:46.19 | Iriel | Thanks, you also. |
| 04:46.33 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: that right there all but guarantees that I wouldn't be able to take them |
| 04:47.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh bah what is the name of that fake sugar crap in everything |
| 04:47.22 | Cairenn | I don't know for sure, without looking up the non-medicinal ingredients, but I'd not be at all surprised if it is sweetened with asparatame |
| 04:47.29 | ScytheBlade1 | That's it |
| 04:47.30 | ScytheBlade1 | 2mg |
| 04:47.34 | Cairenn | yeah, no |
| 04:47.42 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 04:47.42 | Cairenn | I'll put up with the migraines |
| 04:47.51 | ScytheBlade1 | That does worse stuff to you? |
| 04:47.53 | Cairenn | better than death (although some days .... ) |
| 04:47.59 | Cairenn | yeah, I'm allergic to it |
| 04:48.01 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, yeah |
| 04:48.04 | ScytheBlade1 | And o_o |
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| 04:48.19 | batrick | allergic to aspartame? |
| 04:48.22 | Cairenn | yes |
| 04:48.26 | batrick | whoa |
| 04:48.32 | batrick | bet finding that out wasn't fun : / |
| 04:48.37 | Cairenn | throat swelling shut type allergic |
| 04:48.44 | Cairenn | nope |
| 04:49.13 | batrick | I recently gave up diet soda (all soda). aspartame is evil |
| 04:49.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I've heard nasty things about it in general |
| 04:50.15 | Cairenn | it is very nasty, even without allergies |
| 04:50.21 | ScytheBlade1 | from the non-allergic side, some people were being plagued with blackouts |
| 04:52.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: looks like that dissolving type is a variant, they have a "normal" version it seems |
| 04:53.23 | Cairenn | it's scary how many things have it in them that don't "need" it |
| 04:54.21 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, you've probably got an awesome list |
| 04:54.59 | geargrind | most of the nasty things you hear about it are myths |
| 04:55.01 | Cairenn | gum, that is made with sugar .... has it in it |
| 04:55.15 | geargrind | save for the legitimate allergies and phenylketonuria (sp?) |
| 04:56.19 | Cairenn | geargrind: there are a lot of people on both sides of it, whether it does or doesn't cause various other things |
| 04:56.34 | geargrind | one side is anecdotes, the other side is science |
| 04:56.43 | geargrind | i know which i'll pick ;) |
| 04:57.08 | Cairenn | I've seen more than enough "science" on both sides |
| 04:57.32 | tekkub | I have some extra science in my pants if you want to see it |
| 04:57.46 | Aiiane | hey tekkub |
| 04:57.47 | Aiiane | http://www.wowinsider.com/2009/04/14/curse-wow-interface-band-together-to-block-wowmatrix/23#comments |
| 04:57.49 | Aiiane | #457 |
| 04:57.56 | Aiiane | someone wants you to write the next wowmatrix |
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| 04:58.11 | Aiiane | I thought it was cute |
| 04:58.17 | Cairenn | tekkub: squeenix working with 3.1? |
| 04:59.19 | tekkub | Aiiane: hey that's the guy that (used to?) posted all the wowins features of my stuff |
| 05:00.12 | geargrind | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy |
| 05:00.59 | tekkub | Cairenn: as far as I know |
| 05:01.06 | tekkub | Aiiane: replied! |
| 05:03.09 | tekkub | ... or maybe not, fuck I hate wowins's comment system |
| 05:04.16 | ScytheBlade1 | tekkub: you replied |
| 05:04.30 | tekkub | so it's just not showing up for me? |
| 05:04.47 | ScytheBlade1 | possibly! |
| 05:04.50 | ScytheBlade1 | But I see your reply |
| 05:04.59 | tekkub | what did I say? |
| 05:05.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I should show you some C/C++ |
| 05:05.13 | tekkub | okey |
| 05:05.21 | tekkub | still RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE |
| 05:05.59 | Cairenn | wait a minute here ... Sean said that? .... |
| 05:06.04 | Cairenn | fumes |
| 05:06.43 | ScytheBlade1 | blinks |
| 05:06.50 | Cairenn | closes that thread back down again and goes back to her work |
| 05:06.57 | ScytheBlade1 | oh, the commenter |
| 05:07.00 | Aiiane | but Cairenn |
| 05:07.03 | Aiiane | drama is fun! |
| 05:07.05 | Aiiane | and exciting |
| 05:07.16 | Cairenn | oh, it's just absolutely fucking lovely it is |
| 05:07.28 | Cairenn | sorry |
| 05:07.40 | Cairenn | not mad at you, please don't take that wrong |
| 05:07.55 | Aiiane | I didn't :) |
| 05:07.56 | Aiiane | <3 |
| 05:08.05 | tekkub | Cairenn: you want me to derail it |
| 05:08.11 | tekkub | I can totally fuck that thread up |
| 05:08.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I have to say I've never seen you (Cair) get so agitated so quickly over a single line of text |
| 05:08.13 | Aiiane | tekkub: it's been going on for 26 pages |
| 05:08.18 | tekkub | it's run it's corse anyway |
| 05:08.20 | Aiiane | I don't think it's going to derail much |
| 05:08.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I suggest you put the work down and sleep :) |
| 05:08.44 | tekkub | Aiiane: you question my ability |
| 05:08.59 | Aiiane | tekkub: I question the masses' mental abilities |
| 05:09.04 | tekkub | fuck, I have an entire thread about my bacon and I didn't even start it |
| 05:10.02 | geargrind | wants to eat tekkub's bacon |
| 05:10.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Careful, he might let you. |
| 05:10.40 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-177-28-192.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:10.52 | tekkub | be warned, I prefer to do my makin bacon raw |
| 05:11.30 | geargrind | eew food poisoning 4tl |
| 05:12.04 | geargrind | http://www.bbqaddicts.com/blog/recipes/bacon-explosion/ <-- mmmmm |
| 05:14.54 | Wobin | I need to stop reading those thraed |
| 05:14.55 | Wobin | s |
| 05:17.26 | Moleculor | Yay! Server first Deconstructor 25 kill! |
| 05:17.30 | Moleculor | Baaaaarely made it. |
| 05:17.43 | Moleculor | Hey, what's the trick with Razorscale? He lands, and we barely scratch him. |
| 05:18.47 | Antiarc | No trick AFAIK |
| 05:18.59 | Antiarc | Your DPS has to not suck but if you're killing X2 it probably doesn't suck |
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| 05:21.37 | tekkub | hrm... what to use for gear set until the official one is in? |
| 05:21.51 | tekkub | what supports auto-swap on talent swap? |
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| 05:29.26 | Antiarc | A closetgnome plugin would be easy. |
| 05:31.16 | batrick | I never understood these people bitching about not having wow matrix |
| 05:31.30 | batrick | updating my addons was like a monthly deal and it usually only took ~5 minutes |
| 05:32.37 | Moleculor | Hm... K. |
| 05:38.16 | DWSR | Fuck Flame Leviathan |
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| 05:40.07 | Moleculor | Flame Leviathan is fun! |
| 05:40.14 | Moleculor | I wish I could do it more often than twice a week. |
| 05:54.30 | Taroven | Anyone know a shortcut to remove tabs from a block of text in Notepad++? |
| 05:54.40 | Moleculor | Find/Replace? |
| 05:54.53 | Taroven | Eh, not quite |
| 05:55.20 | Taroven | You can add tabs to a block by selecting it all and just hitting tab, dunno how to do the reverse. =\ |
| 05:56.43 | Wobin | shift-tab? |
| 05:57.00 | Wobin | that's the usual untabify |
| 05:57.12 | Taroven | Figures, the one shortcut I didn't try. Thankies Wobin. =D |
| 05:57.17 | Wobin | no worries =) |
| 05:57.32 | Trela | I use the back and forward buttons on my mouse for it. o.o |
| 05:57.38 | Trela | May be mouse specific. |
| 05:58.03 | Taroven | Nah, m4/m5 move back and forth between tabs for me |
| 05:58.23 | Taroven | (Handy little thing I found out when I had the wrong window selected. =P) |
| 05:59.17 | Trela | Ah, mine know if a line is selected or not. *Pets the pretty mouse~* |
| 05:59.27 | Taroven | Hehe |
| 05:59.29 | Taroven | Which mouse? |
| 05:59.39 | Trela | Logitech MX510 |
| 05:59.41 | Taroven | I'd love to figure out a way to do that with mine |
| 05:59.43 | Taroven | Hmm |
| 05:59.48 | Taroven | I'm using a mx518 |
| 06:00.03 | Taroven | You using notepad++? |
| 06:00.07 | Trela | I was using some custom software. |
| 06:00.13 | Trela | I am using TextMate now. |
| 06:00.22 | Taroven | Ah |
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| 06:10.04 | NightHawkTheSane | this is amusing,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i-OWDjOQfI |
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| 06:12.30 | Trela | Hahahaha |
| 06:12.32 | Trela | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 06:12.39 | Trela | laughs with NightHawkTheSane. |
| 06:12.51 | jnwhiteh | shiitake |
| 06:12.57 | jnwhiteh | anyone here level 80, with access to the arena? |
| 06:13.00 | jnwhiteh | skirmish is fine |
| 06:14.28 | Trela | I do not have a partner. :x |
| 06:14.42 | jnwhiteh | I just need info about the new arena frames |
| 06:14.52 | jnwhiteh | anyone know what they're called or where they are? |
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| 06:16.56 | Trela | You could always download the newest FrameXML from wowcompares.com and look through there. |
| 06:17.05 | jnwhiteh | I have the FrameXML |
| 06:17.14 | jnwhiteh | I was hoping someone could avoid me having to search |
| 06:19.22 | Kemayo | Trela: The live one isn't up on wowcompares yet, also. |
| 06:19.29 | Cairenn | so, who actually has WM installed and can thus figure out which mods they're actually hosting now? I know of a few that they have up there now, but .... be damned if I'm going to put that on my computer .... won't ask anyone to install it that doesn't already have it (because they wanted to check this stuff in the first place) |
| 06:20.02 | Trela | I can check, I even made a fake WoW folder for it to install to. |
| 06:20.11 | Trela | I know QuestHelper is there. |
| 06:20.22 | Cairenn | and Omen |
| 06:20.25 | Cairenn | and Auctioneer |
| 06:20.30 | jnwhiteh | I'll check LightHeaded again |
| 06:21.03 | Cairenn | Cart is up there too |
| 06:21.12 | Trela | Omen is hosted on WoWM. |
| 06:21.25 | Cairenn | nod |
| 06:21.42 | Trela | Auctioneer is being pulled from auctioneeraddon.com. |
| 06:22.05 | Trela | Omen 3.0.7 installed. |
| 06:22.14 | Trela | Auctioneer, 5.4.4157 |
| 06:22.28 | Trela | QuestHelper 0.102 |
| 06:22.41 | Taroven | Anyone know if the new Ulduar vehicles have a new UnitPower type, or something else to watch for ammo/pyrite? |
| 06:22.43 | Trela | What else should I check? |
| 06:22.44 | Cairenn | ZorbaTHut: ^^ did you know, and do you care? |
| 06:23.06 | Torhal | If they're hosting Omen, they'r edefinitely in the wrong. It's All Rights Reserved. |
| 06:23.15 | Cairenn | Trela: just trying to figure out what's up there |
| 06:23.19 | jnwhiteh | still hitting wowi for LH |
| 06:23.50 | jnwhiteh | same with clique and tt |
| 06:24.24 | Kemayo | It wouldn't be that difficult to just manually grab the popular ones, I suppose. |
| 06:24.38 | ZorbaTHut | cairenn, I've heard about it, and I technically couldn't stop them right now if I wanted to |
| 06:24.51 | ZorbaTHut | I'm divided on whether I want to or not, though |
| 06:25.02 | Cairenn | nod, that's why I said it the way I did :) |
| 06:25.07 | Arrowmaster | you do |
| 06:25.44 | Trela | FuBar is being hosted on WoWMatrix, ckknight. |
| 06:26.07 | ZorbaTHut | I'll have to decide by the time I'm able to actually do something ;) |
| 06:26.07 | ckknight | Trela: it's GPL, I can't do anything |
| 06:26.11 | ckknight | shitty |
| 06:26.14 | Trela | Fair enough. |
| 06:26.21 | Arrowmaster | well you are allowed to change the license |
| 06:26.34 | ckknight | not without contacting the authors |
| 06:26.41 | Arrowmaster | which is you and me |
| 06:26.49 | ckknight | I might tomorrow morning |
| 06:27.11 | Trela | It would only affect new versions though, correct? |
| 06:27.22 | Torhal | Trela: Yup |
| 06:27.42 | Trela | considers assisting porting to Ace3 and LDB... |
| 06:27.48 | Aiiane | but considering that addons live or die by their versions |
| 06:27.58 | Aiiane | only affecting new versions would suffice, generally |
| 06:28.13 | Arrowmaster | i approve of change the license on any projects i have been a part of for the purpose of fucking wowmatrix as long as i still have the right or will later be given the right to use the code for whatever purpose i desire |
| 06:28.16 | Torhal | I bet WM would just update anyway, if they're actually hosting Omen3 |
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| 06:29.06 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: k |
| 06:29.09 | Trela | Any other AddOns people need checked? |
| 06:29.20 | jnwhiteh | Torhal: yes, but we can DMCA their ISP |
| 06:29.22 | jnwhiteh | or at least try |
| 06:29.25 | jnwhiteh | do we know who their host is? |
| 06:29.37 | ckknight | it was theplanet.com |
| 06:29.45 | ckknight | Xinhuan sent a DMCA notice |
| 06:29.47 | Torhal | jnwhiteh: True |
| 06:29.49 | jnwhiteh | oh good |
| 06:29.51 | ckknight | I believe they changed |
| 06:29.57 | ckknight | to some place in Washington |
| 06:29.58 | jnwhiteh | theplanet has responded very quickly to requests |
| 06:30.08 | Taroven | Hmm. |
| 06:30.18 | Taroven | Getting a nil error when checking vehicle combo points |
| 06:30.25 | jnwhiteh | it always weirds me out when someone donates $100+ |
| 06:30.31 | jnwhiteh | i feel like i owe them sexual favours or something |
| 06:30.36 | Trela | It shows wowmatrix.com as Amsterdam. |
| 06:31.11 | tekkub | Arrowmaster: yea after WM and one other discovery I made today, I'm removing even my little blurb on GCode |
| 06:31.24 | Cairenn | tekkub: hmmm? |
| 06:31.31 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: just change the license of LibRock-1.0, thats 100% just you and me |
| 06:31.32 | Taroven | Currently using GetComboPoints("vehicle","target"), would it still work as intended if I just used GetComboPoints("vehicle")? Not in a position to check. >.> |
| 06:31.33 | Arrowmaster | www.wowmatrix.com is hosted in amsterdam or something |
| 06:31.35 | Arrowmaster | but the subdomains are in the US |
| 06:31.35 | tekkub | I'm really sad that I needed to do it, but anyone that asks I'll of corse let at my code |
| 06:31.37 | Arrowmaster | Taroven: how are you checking it? |
| 06:31.39 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: for which addon or was it just to you in general? |
| 06:31.41 | ckknight | jnwhiteh: lol, same, though I've only gotten one $100 |
| 06:31.44 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: Have you run arena yet at all? (or know what the new unit frames are called)? |
| 06:31.50 | Arrowmaster | Taroven: that should work afaik |
| 06:31.51 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: hmm.. |
| 06:31.53 | tekkub | Cairenn: FA chat this morning |
| 06:31.58 | jnwhiteh | Arrowmaster: they were hosting lightheaded and tomtom |
| 06:32.06 | Cairenn | goes to look, having missed most of the day |
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| 06:32.14 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: no i ment the donation |
| 06:32.18 | Taroven | Kk, I'll do Aces High in a bit to confirm. Thanks Arrowmaster |
| 06:32.23 | jnwhiteh | oh, that was for lightheaded |
| 06:32.24 | Cairenn | oh, that stuff |
| 06:32.29 | jnwhiteh | which i think normally gets the highest |
| 06:32.32 | Cairenn | I sorta saw it in passing earlier |
| 06:32.42 | Zhinjio | Cairenn! |
| 06:32.48 | tekkub | jnwhiteh: did you just get it? |
| 06:32.49 | Zhinjio | did you get some sleep? |
| 06:32.49 | Cairenn | Zhinjio! |
| 06:32.50 | Trela | ~repo fail |
| 06:32.54 | tekkub | I just got a $100 one too |
| 06:33.03 | tekkub | I smell shenanigans! |
| 06:33.05 | Cairenn | I got 2 hrs between 1130 and 1330 |
| 06:33.09 | Zhinjio | guh |
| 06:33.13 | Zhinjio | you're a fiend. |
| 06:33.23 | Cairenn | apparently bagnon is up there |
| 06:33.23 | Arrowmaster | wonder if ckk got any recently, his paypal is plastered everywhere |
| 06:33.27 | jnwhiteh | tekkub: yeah I did |
| 06:33.32 | ckknight | I got like 5 today |
| 06:33.32 | jnwhiteh | LH/Tourguide? |
| 06:33.39 | tekkub | yup, TG |
| 06:33.40 | Zhinjio | wow, you guys get donations? |
| 06:33.45 | Zhinjio | I guess I suck |
| 06:33.45 | jnwhiteh | from matrix@ |
| 06:33.46 | ckknight | I've been getting 1 every day since Curse put up donation links |
| 06:33.46 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 06:33.46 | Trela | wishes she got donations for her crap coding. :O |
| 06:33.53 | tekkub | jnwhiteh: yup and yup |
| 06:34.04 | jnwhiteh | ckknight: I've pulled in an obscene amount of donations over the past two weeks |
| 06:34.05 | jnwhiteh | honestly |
| 06:34.10 | tekkub | that username along with the recent happenins made me ponder |
| 06:34.11 | Arrowmaster | matrix@... donated $100? |
| 06:34.12 | Zhinjio | of course, I just added all my donation buttons ... like... 3 days ago. |
| 06:34.13 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 06:34.17 | jnwhiteh | tekkub: aye |
| 06:34.21 | jnwhiteh | Arrowmaster: to each of us, yeah |
| 06:34.27 | Arrowmaster | bribes! |
| 06:34.29 | tekkub | Arrowmaster: yes, to both of us it seems |
| 06:34.56 | tekkub | I got a $200 one a while back by a paid guide that was using TG with their stuff |
| 06:35.03 | Kemayo | jnwhiteh: Yeah -- someone donating $50 to me made me go out and buy wotlk and polish up the addon they donated for. I'm not on your scale, though. :) |
| 06:35.15 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 06:35.18 | tekkub | and then after The Policy the guy turned around and gave me his guide files |
| 06:35.40 | Torhal | tekkub: Were they of any use, at least? |
| 06:35.40 | tekkub | which, BTW, will be in soon as Horde wrath guides ^^ |
| 06:35.44 | Torhal | Aha |
| 06:35.54 | tekkub | and then I'll go back through the rest of his horde guides and merge em with mine |
| 06:35.58 | Arrowmaster | is he still going to write guides? |
| 06:36.15 | tekkub | Torhal: yea they're actually pretty damn good quality |
| 06:36.39 | tekkub | his coords aren't as exact as my OCD would like, but I have a lot of user TGR data I can pull those from |
| 06:37.05 | tekkub | Arrowmaster: you mean printed guides? yes but he says the market is saturated |
| 06:37.07 | Torhal | tekkub: Sounds like he was a rarity in the "ZOMG! GUIDE!" field. |
| 06:37.17 | jnwhiteh | Zygor still uses TomTom |
| 06:37.19 | tekkub | yes, verry rare |
| 06:37.22 | jnwhiteh | they say they don't distribuet with it now |
| 06:37.28 | jnwhiteh | I honestly don't really care.. |
| 06:37.31 | jnwhiteh | but they never asked |
| 06:37.33 | tekkub | The guy really kicks ass |
| 06:37.37 | jnwhiteh | if they asked, i would probably say yes. |
| 06:37.44 | tekkub | unlike this *other* guide site I get to deal with |
| 06:37.46 | tekkub | *sigh* |
| 06:38.13 | tekkub | jnwhiteh: yea but theirs is unmodified I assume? |
| 06:38.13 | haste | hands tekkub a bacon. |
| 06:38.22 | jnwhiteh | yeah, afaik |
| 06:38.30 | tekkub | yea, my case is far from that |
| 06:38.46 | tekkub | they modified it *just* enough to cause issues if the user has TG proper |
| 06:38.50 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 06:38.52 | jnwhiteh | yeah i saw that |
| 06:38.55 | tekkub | and then are basically just selling my guides |
| 06:39.25 | Trela | Zygor's stuff is really awesome. <.<; |
| 06:39.38 | tekkub | TRAITOR! |
| 06:39.42 | tekkub | BAN HEEEEM! |
| 06:40.32 | Trela | I know of no other! |
| 06:41.47 | Trela | tries to find tekkub's page, fails. |
| 06:42.46 | tekkub | These are the guys that donated their guide data: http://www.spugnort.com/ |
| 06:43.05 | tekkub | and these are the ones I'm about to beat down: http://www.ultimatewowguide.com/ |
| 06:43.22 | jnwhiteh | UltimateWoWGuide.com only provides guides and video instruction on how to use addons. All addons that we recommend are available for free to download. |
| 06:43.22 | jnwhiteh | lies |
| 06:43.30 | tekkub | yea |
| 06:43.53 | tekkub | a week or so ago it was "oh look we're complying here's a download" that was just the butchered TG core |
| 06:43.56 | tekkub | and no guide data |
| 06:44.05 | tekkub | I already reported that one to blizzy |
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| 06:44.20 | Trela | TG? |
| 06:44.27 | tekkub | TourGuide |
| 06:44.29 | Cairenn | tourguide |
| 06:44.45 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7674-TourGuide.html |
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| 06:45.33 | Trela | Mmm. |
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| 06:55.12 | zenzio | of all the creepy spam subjects I've seen, this must be close to the creepiest... "Brad pitt wants to get closer" |
| 06:56.49 | dolseni | he wants to feel you from the inside |
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| 07:02.10 | Cairenn | huggles nevcairiel |
| 07:02.26 | nevcairiel | sometimes you're really scary Cairenn |
| 07:02.33 | nevcairiel | i didnt even finish loading the page |
| 07:02.33 | Cairenn | why? |
| 07:02.39 | Cairenn | hehhe |
| 07:03.08 | Arrowmaster | what page? |
| 07:03.26 | Arrowmaster | file upload page? |
| 07:03.48 | nevcairiel | yes |
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| 07:05.33 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C54yPPiQMfw |
| 07:05.46 | Wobin | (and you'll have that theme song running through your head for the rest of the night) |
| 07:06.58 | Arrowmaster | gets out the macgyver dvd sets |
| 07:08.01 | aesir | Mine are so worn out from use I had to duct tape 'em together. The good news is that I can now use the DVDs as an emergency radio satellite transmitters. |
| 07:08.08 | Fisker- | gets out his dvd eraser |
| 07:08.16 | Fisker- | steals all of Arrowmaster's dvd's |
| 07:09.23 | Fisker- | http://xkcd.net/ <-lulz |
| 07:10.34 | Cairenn | lol |
| 07:15.16 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
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| 07:28.26 | jnwhiteh | if anyone runs into it |
| 07:28.33 | jnwhiteh | can you please send me the names of the arena frames |
| 07:28.58 | jnwhiteh | so I can add them to Clique |
| 07:29.02 | msou| | I know the guy who owns xkcd he hangs on efnet |
| 07:29.03 | jnwhiteh | PM or email is best |
| 07:29.04 | jnwhiteh | peace out! |
| 07:29.45 | msou| | epic/mutt and emacs for me =)= |
| 07:30.03 | msou| | epic for ircing, mutt emails and emacs for whatever I am doing |
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| 07:33.35 | Elkano | jnwhiteh, from http://wowcompares.com/0109767/AddOns/Blizzard_ArenaUI/Blizzard_ArenaUI.xml I'd say ArenaEnemyFrame1 to ArenaEnemyFrame5 |
| 07:35.18 | Adys | shirik, pong |
| 07:35.31 | Adys | shirik, why did you abandon me :( |
| 07:38.24 | Cairenn | shhhh, he's sleeping :) |
| 07:38.40 | nevcairiel | shirik sleeps? |
| 07:38.41 | tekkub | SHIRIK |
| 07:38.54 | tekkub | I AM GOING TO DO THING TO YOUR BUTT WHILE YOU SLEEP |
| 07:39.06 | tekkub | there, problem solved, he won't be sleeping for a while |
| 07:39.27 | Thunder_Child | A. that wasnt english |
| 07:39.38 | Thunder_Child | B. i doubt he is worried about you |
| 07:39.51 | tekkub | so I missed one 's' :P |
| 07:39.57 | Thunder_Child | C. it's Shirik, like he was sleeping anyway |
| 07:40.01 | tekkub | and he's already admitted he's afraid of me |
| 07:40.08 | tekkub | ... good point |
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| 07:40.52 | Fisker- | poofs |
| 07:42.52 | Thunder_Child | well, he is young and naive, i guess he could be afraid of you for some reason. |
| 07:43.59 | tekkub | yea really, he's not even cute and fuxxy like you |
| 07:44.03 | tekkub | s/xx/zz/ |
| 07:44.30 | jnwhiteh | Elkano: thanks |
| 07:44.34 | Thunder_Child | well, that serves me right for not keeping my mouth shut |
| 07:47.44 | jnwhiteh | !api IsAddonLoaded |
| 07:47.44 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'IsAddOnLoaded' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsAddOnLoaded |
| 08:03.31 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah that has 2 returns now |
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| 08:03.36 | Arrowmaster | that actually work! |
| 08:03.54 | Arrowmaster | your welcome |
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| 08:06.02 | durcyn | his welcome? |
| 08:06.03 | durcyn | tsk tsk. |
| 08:06.19 | Arrowmaster | you're welcome |
| 08:07.36 | Arrowmaster | i would suggest a spellchecker built into an irc client that could detect things like that but then i realize it would likely underline grammar errors in green and come with an annoying paperclip |
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| 08:12.31 | Wobin | >< |
| 08:12.33 | Wobin | http://www.spike.com/video/pg-porn-pg-porn/3041858 |
| 08:18.05 | Adys | just had a banstreak of 20 or so |
| 08:18.28 | Adys | bunch of jerks arguing over US vs EU in ensidia YS kill |
| 08:18.31 | Adys | sigh |
| 08:22.22 | zenzio | yeah, cause it's srs bizns! |
| 08:22.38 | tekkub | who the fuck cares? |
| 08:22.45 | zenzio | the PTR is great for balancing, but it ruined the regular first-kill race |
| 08:23.02 | tekkub | world first kills really only prove that you're TOO dedicated to the damn game |
| 08:23.21 | tekkub | zenzio: agreed |
| 08:23.33 | Adys | YS wasnt tested on ptr |
| 08:23.40 | Adys | and the testing was balanced between US and EU |
| 08:23.43 | NeoTron | which is why he took 7 hrs or so |
| 08:23.46 | tekkub | it doesn't show that you're a great raider... it shows that you knew the strategies and maybe even practiced alredy |
| 08:24.00 | Adys | i rather have that than no testing at all and instances released asap, buggy and horrible |
| 08:24.05 | NeoTron | Normal guilds, good guilds, do not clear Ulduar in a week or a day |
| 08:24.25 | Adys | dont give me that |
| 08:24.35 | Adys | seriously just dont, its bollocks |
| 08:24.35 | NeoTron | who the hell cares about ensidia and the like? As Eyonix said id - "You have nothing to do now because someone that is not you cleared Ulduar?" |
| 08:24.44 | NeoTron | no it's not |
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| 08:24.50 | NeoTron | besides it's not cleared. n ot even close to be cleared |
| 08:24.59 | Adys | no one said its cleared |
| 08:25.02 | Adys | the endboss is down thats all |
| 08:25.10 | zenzio | depends how you define "cleared" |
| 08:25.11 | nevcairiel | you should read forums, everyone says its cleared |
| 08:25.12 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 08:25.19 | tekkub | you know what we can all agree one? |
| 08:25.21 | tekkub | *on |
| 08:25.21 | Adys | yeah but everyone is retarded |
| 08:25.26 | NeoTron | Algalon is the end boss :P |
| 08:25.27 | Adys | tekkub: a blowjob? |
| 08:25.35 | NeoTron | since he's the one that will be killed last! |
| 08:25.46 | tekkub | if BIgWigs Uld doesn't have another tentacle rape joke, it's a failure |
| 08:25.54 | Adys | close enouggh |
| 08:25.56 | Adys | -g |
| 08:26.05 | zenzio | another? It had one before? |
| 08:26.12 | tekkub | Cthun! |
| 08:26.13 | [Ammo] | C'Thun |
| 08:26.13 | Adys | cthun? |
| 08:26.15 | Adys | :D |
| 08:26.28 | zenzio | my guilds never used BigWigs, only DBM |
| 08:26.30 | tekkub | Thunny was BigWig's shining moment |
| 08:26.38 | tekkub | your guilds sucked |
| 08:26.57 | zenzio | they were average |
| 08:27.04 | Adys | they sucked |
| 08:27.17 | zenzio | like your mothers |
| 08:27.22 | tekkub | she licks |
| 08:27.34 | Adys | aye |
| 08:27.47 | ZorbaTHut | argh, stupid wintergrasp. I just got dismounted without a parachute |
| 08:28.04 | zenzio | you guys should learn from Fisker-, at least be entertaining trolls |
| 08:28.18 | tekkub | I ain't trollin |
| 08:28.23 | tekkub | I'm stating facts |
| 08:28.41 | zenzio | you're throwing opinions |
| 08:29.09 | tekkub | you just are in denial of the facts, so you're trying to play them off as opinions |
| 08:29.37 | Adys | NeoTron: nethertheless, ensidia had their goals to kill ys first, be it money, fame, accomplishment or whatever you want |
| 08:29.45 | Adys | they managed it, thats great for them |
| 08:29.49 | Adys | you're not forced to care |
| 08:29.59 | Adys | but for god sake if you dont, no one wants to hear you |
| 08:30.15 | nevcairiel | if you do, no-one wants to hear you either, btw :P |
| 08:30.22 | tekkub | ^ |
| 08:30.23 | Adys | yeah |
| 08:30.28 | Adys | but thats another matter |
| 08:30.50 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:30.50 | tekkub | long story short, no one care, fuck off, fix your addons |
| 08:31.10 | Adys | everyone who qq'd has been banned |
| 08:31.11 | nevcairiel | i just laugh at those people |
| 08:31.11 | tekkub | see those are the ones I don't get |
| 08:31.23 | tekkub | the ones that praise them, fine |
| 08:31.27 | tekkub | the ones that don't care, fine |
| 08:31.28 | NeoTron | I am happy for these guys clearing it. means I get to see cool movies :P |
| 08:31.35 | tekkub | the ones that think they're losers, fine... |
| 08:31.37 | Xinhuan | wwwwwerr i believe ensidia is sponsored, so they have a contract to fulfill |
| 08:31.42 | NeoTron | All I said was that all the QQ about it is stupid because most guilds won't clear nearly that fast |
| 08:31.44 | tekkub | but the ones that cry because the content's cleared? |
| 08:32.13 | nevcairiel | eyonix had an awesome response to that |
| 08:32.14 | nevcairiel | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/16474237859-hardmodes-or-not-1-day-clear-is-stupid.html |
| 08:32.16 | Adys | Im banning on sight anyone being a retard |
| 08:32.34 | tekkub | may cat is in the bathroom yelling at the shower |
| 08:32.35 | tekkub | ban him |
| 08:32.44 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: the one I paraphrased above |
| 08:32.52 | Adys | tekkub: **CATBAN*** |
| 08:33.00 | NeoTron | anyhow time to sleep |
| 08:33.10 | nevcairiel | i didn't pay attention :) |
| 08:33.13 | tekkub | yea go away already |
| 08:34.11 | Aiiane | tekkub: cat pix |
| 08:34.13 | Aiiane | nao |
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| 08:34.22 | tekkub | ugh |
| 08:34.28 | tekkub | I don't have any recent |
| 08:34.46 | tekkub | I generally avoid cameras |
| 08:34.57 | Aiiane | fine, I shall make up for your ineptitude |
| 08:34.58 | Aiiane | http://221.251.109.90:83/CgiStart?page=Multi&Language=2 |
| 08:36.01 | tekkub | that's totally photoshopped |
| 08:36.07 | tekkub | the reflections are all wrong |
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| 08:37.46 | zenzio | why is the black one just staring up the wall? |
| 08:38.09 | Aiiane | why do cats do anything |
| 08:38.17 | zenzio | true |
| 08:38.24 | Xinhuan | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/16474107742-gc-im-going-to-send-you-a-gallon-of-gin.html |
| 08:38.25 | zenzio | was just wondering if there was something up there =) |
| 08:38.29 | Xinhuan | rofl ghostcrawler talks about crabs |
| 08:38.48 | zenzio | our cat liked to lie on top of our hamster cage watching them |
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| 08:49.47 | Taroven | Anyone aware of the API to track ulduar vehicle ammo? |
| 08:50.52 | Adys | http://xkcd.com/570/ |
| 08:50.53 | Adys | hahah |
| 08:51.01 | jnwhiteh | Anyone here have Wild Growth and can do a simple test for me? |
| 08:52.06 | zenzio | most people wouldn't speak openly about wild growth |
| 08:52.58 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: i do |
| 08:53.29 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: do you have someone you can cast it on (party or non-party, doesn't matter) and a moment to test? |
| 08:53.34 | jnwhiteh | if so i'll ask you, rather than posting on wowi |
| 08:53.43 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 08:53.47 | Adys | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16474148230&sid=1&pageNo=3#40 |
| 08:53.48 | Adys | *ouch* |
| 08:54.12 | jnwhiteh | basically I need you to set up the playerframe for click-casting, with spell wild growth, and target player or mouseover. |
| 08:54.21 | jnwhiteh | Then TARGET someone else, make sure they are out of range |
| 08:54.26 | jnwhiteh | and try to click-cast on your player frame |
| 08:54.32 | jnwhiteh | the report is that this is failing |
| 08:54.41 | jnwhiteh | which would be an error in blizzard's target resolution and range check |
| 08:54.45 | jnwhiteh | in which case I want to get it reported |
| 08:54.46 | Taroven | That's pretty strange. |
| 08:54.56 | Taroven | I can actually test in a moment, sec |
| 08:55.02 | jnwhiteh | this is the third report I have |
| 08:55.13 | jnwhiteh | it looks like it's checking the range of your TARGET instead of the unit you are casting on |
| 08:55.21 | jnwhiteh | or so the reports say |
| 08:56.28 | Taroven | wtf |
| 08:56.33 | Taroven | My druid got a free respec? |
| 08:56.41 | jnwhiteh | all druids did? |
| 08:56.45 | Taroven | Oh, wait, never set talents |
| 08:56.48 | jnwhiteh | all classes did I thought |
| 08:56.49 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 08:56.51 | jnwhiteh | ah |
| 08:56.53 | jnwhiteh | nub |
| 08:57.05 | Taroven | Nah, was getting ready for a raid and forgot that I hadn't specced after the patch |
| 08:57.12 | Taroven | >.> |
| 08:57.39 | nevcairiel | i guess i need to install clique, eh |
| 08:57.45 | jnwhiteh | nope |
| 08:57.49 | jnwhiteh | you can do it via slash commands |
| 08:57.54 | jnwhiteh | if you know your player frame's name |
| 08:58.05 | nevcairiel | oUF_Player =P |
| 08:58.12 | jnwhiteh | i.e. /run PlayerFrame:SetAttribute("shift-type1", "spell") |
| 08:58.29 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:58.38 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:58.41 | jnwhiteh | should do it |
| 08:59.27 | Taroven | Got the results, jnwhiteh |
| 08:59.33 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 08:59.58 | Taroven | With a friendly out of range unit targeted, casting Wild Growth on self results in a "You have no target" message. |
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| 09:00.31 | Taroven | (target is in party) |
| 09:00.32 | nevcairiel | seems to work for me |
| 09:00.34 | jnwhiteh | that's even weirder than what people were reporting |
| 09:00.36 | nevcairiel | target not in party |
| 09:00.41 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: can you explain what you're doing? |
| 09:00.47 | Taroven | Same also happens using /cast [target=player] Wild Growth |
| 09:00.56 | nevcairiel | i set the attributes on my player frame like you said |
| 09:01.02 | jnwhiteh | Taroven: I'd expect that, they use the same resolution system |
| 09:01.06 | nevcairiel | target some guy standing somewhere out of range |
| 09:01.13 | nevcairiel | shift-click my player frame |
| 09:01.18 | nevcairiel | voila, WG on me |
| 09:01.45 | jnwhiteh | now can you cast on people out of your party? |
| 09:01.52 | jnwhiteh | ia ssume you can, but i dont know |
| 09:02.04 | jnwhiteh | Taroven: do you have auto-self-cast on? |
| 09:02.05 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: same question |
| 09:02.11 | nevcairiel | no, its off |
| 09:02.17 | Taroven | Yes jnwhiteh |
| 09:02.19 | nevcairiel | but apparently you cannot use it on people out of party |
| 09:02.24 | nevcairiel | let me find a party member |
| 09:02.40 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: that explains why you're getting different results. |
| 09:02.47 | jnwhiteh | Taroven: not getting out of range errors at all? |
| 09:03.03 | Taroven | Nope |
| 09:03.10 | Taroven | Just says "You have no target" |
| 09:03.26 | jnwhiteh | In Ulduar unsing Clique r119 I recognized one strange behaviour with the Druid group-healing spell 'Wild Growth': clique-casting 'Wild Growth' on a unitframe 'in range' while the actual target is 'out of range' prevents wild growth from beeing cast with the error 'out of range'. This is even the case if I clique-cast wild growth on myself (my unitframe) and my actual target is out of range. |
| 09:03.27 | Taroven | Course, this is going from Dal to IF, so that might be part of it |
| 09:03.35 | jnwhiteh | Taroven: oh, that's not a valid test |
| 09:03.41 | Taroven | Same bug is likely with CoH, btw |
| 09:03.42 | jnwhiteh | it has to be someone in proximity of you |
| 09:03.46 | Taroven | Sec and I'll head to IF to test |
| 09:03.53 | jnwhiteh | in which case you should get out of range |
| 09:03.58 | jnwhiteh | which is a bug that I can report |
| 09:04.31 | nevcairiel | stupid WG targeting has always had issues |
| 09:04.36 | Taroven | Out of range now |
| 09:04.37 | nevcairiel | good that i don't click-cast :p |
| 09:04.42 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 09:04.43 | jnwhiteh | thanks guys |
| 09:04.47 | jnwhiteh | that's a terrible bug = |
| 09:04.48 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
| 09:04.52 | Taroven | No kidding. |
| 09:04.53 | nevcairiel | for click-casters! |
| 09:04.53 | jnwhiteh | you think CoH has the same issue? |
| 09:04.54 | msou| | ZorbaTHut: is there an option to display the paths by the way from a-b for instance? |
| 09:04.54 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 09:05.01 | Etanol | DID SOMEBODY SAY |
| 09:05.02 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: it would be for more than click-casters |
| 09:05.02 | Taroven | Thank god I don't target friendlies often |
| 09:05.07 | Etanol | CLICK-CASTERS? |
| 09:05.10 | jnwhiteh | but yes |
| 09:05.15 | Taroven | CLIQUE CASTERS |
| 09:05.15 | nevcairiel | i target the people i heal |
| 09:05.17 | ZorbaTHut | msou, there's pretty much no precise routing control |
| 09:05.19 | nevcairiel | does it affect me? :D |
| 09:05.20 | Taroven | There's a difference! |
| 09:05.39 | ZorbaTHut | do you mean, like, you want to make your own path? |
| 09:06.27 | msou| | ZorbaTHut: no, I had a hard time going to badlands for instance and read from wowwiki it's difficult for a horde to go there and thought there's an option that I'm not aware of |
| 09:07.00 | msou| | ZorbaTHut: to be truthful I didn't change anything, using the default settings |
| 09:07.10 | ZorbaTHut | ah, if you know a monster in the area you can type "/qh find monster_name" and it'll let you route to that monster |
| 09:07.15 | ZorbaTHut | (maybe it will, you might have to try a few monsters) |
| 09:07.32 | msou| | oh nice, will do that thanks |
| 09:08.31 | Taroven | jnwhiteh: Be aware that "/cast [target=player] Wild Growth" will also reproduce the bug under the same conditions |
| 09:08.41 | jnwhiteh | thank you, i'll add that |
| 09:08.48 | jnwhiteh | and it DOES work correctly when you're in range |
| 09:08.50 | msou| | I'd never find the instances myself if you ask me, always ask someone to summ |
| 09:08.55 | jnwhiteh | i.e. casts on YOU and not your party member? |
| 09:09.36 | msou| | ZorbaTHut: would be nie to have the feuture to display the instance entrance a-b-c etc but it requires a lot of code/time I'm sure |
| 09:09.37 | Taroven | Woah, just got taint from trying the macro again |
| 09:09.40 | msou| | nice |
| 09:09.58 | ZorbaTHut | msou, soon I'm going to have it set up so that it can route into instances as well - you could use the same "/qh find" trick on the boss name |
| 09:10.16 | msou| | yeah I'll do that |
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| 09:10.20 | jnwhiteh | Taroven: I just want to verify that it isn't actually trying to cast it on your target when you're in range of them |
| 09:10.32 | msou| | ZorbaTHut: your addon was on a finnish wow magazine by the way :) |
| 09:10.44 | ZorbaTHut | msou, nice :D |
| 09:10.48 | msou| | hehe indeed |
| 09:11.42 | Taroven | jnwhiteh: Considering that it affects an entire 5man party, hard to judge. |
| 09:11.52 | Etanol | ERROR: Segfault in AddOns\\Blizzard_TalentUI\\Blizzard_TalentUI.pub |
| 09:12.10 | jnwhiteh | Taroven: yes, I can see how that would be an issue |
| 09:12.14 | jnwhiteh | convert to raid, and move them to another group |
| 09:12.18 | jnwhiteh | that should show definitively |
| 09:12.25 | Taroven | kk |
| 09:13.37 | Taroven | "/cast [target=player] Wild Growth" with raid member in another group targeted = WG casted on raid member, NOT self |
| 09:13.50 | jnwhiteh | oh. |
| 09:13.52 | jnwhiteh | that's even worser |
| 09:13.56 | Taroven | Wild Growth is ignoring macro conditions. |
| 09:14.06 | Taroven | >.< |
| 09:14.09 | jnwhiteh | alright |
| 09:14.12 | jnwhiteh | i'll add that to the report |
| 09:14.14 | jnwhiteh | in the meantime |
| 09:14.18 | jnwhiteh | you can /target mouseover |
| 09:14.24 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:14.44 | Taroven | Alright, I'll macro it in Clique now. Thanks much for the info. |
| 09:15.14 | jnwhiteh | you CAN cast wild growth on yourself, right? |
| 09:15.15 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 09:15.39 | Taroven | Yup |
| 09:16.40 | jnwhiteh | kay |
| 09:16.42 | jnwhiteh | that's been added |
| 09:17.28 | jnwhiteh | thanks, much appreciated |
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| 09:19.13 | Fisker- | y helo thar jnwhiteh |
| 09:19.34 | jnwhiteh | hai |
| 09:20.23 | Fisker- | got a 1680x1050 monitor yet? :3 |
| 09:20.28 | jnwhiteh | nope |
| 09:20.37 | Fisker- | i am disappoint :( |
| 09:20.40 | jnwhiteh | something weird like 1024x600 atm |
| 09:20.46 | jnwhiteh | buy me one! |
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| 09:22.45 | Arrowmaster | 1920x1200 or bust |
| 09:22.57 | Arrowmaster | is only using a 1600x1200 currently though |
| 09:23.12 | Fisker- | almost same aspect ratio jnwhiteh! |
| 09:23.33 | jnwhiteh | Fisker-: you could make a very simple test to show Blizzard, and report it to them! |
| 09:23.42 | Arrowmaster | the new 16:9 computer monitors can go DIAF though |
| 09:24.56 | Fisker- | where's my damn sea turtle? |
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| 09:30.39 | Aiiane | http://www.nastyhobbit.org/details.php?image_id=695 |
| 09:36.09 | WobNet | has 1024x768 |
| 09:37.49 | zenzio | Arrowmaster: you prefer 16:10 or 4:3? |
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| 10:01.49 | Grum | Aiiane: definately need a tombstone with 'Connection reset by peer' :p |
| 10:02.29 | zenzio | I want something like "Remote host closed socket" |
| 10:03.13 | zenzio | or maybe "410 Gone" |
| 10:03.20 | Grum | 'Bus error' .. but only if you were hit by an actual bus obivously |
| 10:03.37 | Grum | ENOMORELIFE |
| 10:03.38 | zenzio | if I die by heart attack I will be content with "Kernel panic" |
| 10:03.54 | Grum | or 'Out of memory' |
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| 10:06.57 | Torhal | 0xBUSERROR |
| 10:07.06 | Torhal | Or 0xDEADBEEF |
| 10:07.12 | Torhal | Feh. Sleeptime. |
| 10:07.22 | zenzio | "Uncaught exception" |
| 10:08.30 | Etanol | deadbeef seems to be 3735928559 |
| 10:09.14 | WobWork | meh |
| 10:09.24 | WobWork | I'd go old school with "GURU MEDITATION" |
| 10:09.43 | zenzio | now we're talking |
| 10:10.19 | zenzio | GRUBGRUBGRUBGRUBGRUB[...] |
| 10:10.20 | WobWork | of course, by that time, the people who would get it are probably alrready dead |
| 10:10.26 | WobWork | or well on their way |
| 10:11.03 | zenzio | go with something your ancestors would understand then... "BRB" |
| 10:11.35 | Etanol | i, t, o, n are not in hex? |
| 10:11.40 | Etanol | wtf is this? |
| 10:11.43 | WobWork | or maybe 301 : Moved Permanently |
| 10:11.58 | Etanol | conspiracy! |
| 10:12.14 | WobWork | or perhaps 305 : Use Proxy |
| 10:12.17 | zenzio | WobWork: a definite possibility, but 410 seemed more appropriate if you don't believe in an after-life |
| 10:12.45 | WobWork | I like 418 |
| 10:12.54 | zenzio | 418? |
| 10:13.18 | WobWork | 418 I'm a teapot |
| 10:13.23 | zenzio | :-p |
| 10:13.28 | zenzio | "501 Not Implemented" |
| 10:13.42 | WobWork | or even 509 Bandwidth Limit Exceeded |
| 10:13.59 | zenzio | that sounds unofficial |
| 10:14.19 | WobWork | somewhat =) |
| 10:14.33 | WobWork | not in the rfc, but used by a number of servers apparently |
| 10:15.24 | zenzio | you know watch, screw all those codes... I want "101 Switching Protocols" on my tombstone |
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| 10:21.58 | Etanol | wawawawa |
| 10:28.13 | msou| | heh, you remind me of Borat, Wawa wewa |
| 10:28.58 | msou| | his next movie is even more offensive than Borat |
| 10:33.39 | jnwhiteh | is tired |
| 10:35.18 | WobWork | so is sascha cohen's humour =) |
| 10:38.25 | ZorbaTHut | gaah. dualspec is so broken right now |
| 10:38.46 | ZorbaTHut | it just overwrote the Arms and Fury pages of my second spec with those of my first spec, and cleared its Protection page entirely |
| 10:40.27 | Etanol | What happens if you set a frame to nil? |
| 10:41.46 | zenzio | Etanol: "a frame" as in the variable pointing to the frame? |
| 10:42.49 | zenzio | if my understanding is correct, the frame won't know about any change, but you can no longer use the variable to access it |
| 10:45.30 | WobWork | but it'll still exist |
| 10:46.02 | Etanol | damn |
| 10:46.17 | Etanol | how do I smash it to bits and shovel the bits into a fire and blow out the smoke? |
| 10:46.24 | zenzio | ReloadUI() |
| 10:46.36 | Etanol | so there is NO way to remove a frame then? |
| 10:46.38 | zenzio | no |
| 10:46.46 | Etanol | damn |
| 10:46.56 | mikma | [13:46:08] If you are unable to resurrect at your corpse, please log out and back in near your corpse to resolve this issue. We are working to resolve this issue as quickly as possible. |
| 10:47.01 | Etanol | that's kind of worthless |
| 10:47.03 | mikma | sudden server messages are cool |
| 10:47.46 | zenzio | Etanol: not really. What are you doing that would need to remove frames? |
| 10:47.57 | WobWork | Etanol: just be careful about how many frames you generate |
| 10:48.02 | WobWork | and reuse them if you can |
| 10:48.41 | zenzio | mikma: I still remember when a lot of servers were taken down because the cooling in the data center failed, we still got a 15-minute warning, but it was quite out of the blue |
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| 10:50.04 | JoGoiA | Hello all ^^ |
| 10:50.09 | zenzio | hi |
| 10:50.48 | JoGoiA | Got a problem with PlayerModel and setPosition... |
| 10:51.05 | Adys | do explain then |
| 10:51.17 | JoGoiA | let's go ! |
| 10:52.20 | JoGoiA | I try to make a target frame. When I call PLAYER_CHANGE_TARGET, I SetUnit(target) of my target frame and Set the position. |
| 10:52.42 | JoGoiA | The first time I do it after a reloadUI, it works perfectly. |
| 10:53.13 | JoGoiA | but after the first time, the model is changed normally but the position is reset to 0,0,0 |
| 10:53.37 | JoGoiA | The second problem is on the Player frame. |
| 10:54.22 | JoGoiA | I call the SetUnit on it onEnable but when I log to WoW, it deson't works. I need a reloadUI to see my player Model. |
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| 10:55.32 | JoGoiA | Here's a link to an embryo of my project who show the problem :http://www.talbuk.org/POSTER/BozDreamingRaid.rar |
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| 10:57.43 | Adys | JoGoiA: SetUnit resets the model positions, always |
| 10:58.08 | JoGoiA | Yes, but I call SetPosition after SetUnit, in the event. |
| 10:58.39 | JoGoiA | With SetAlpha and SetFacing, there's no problems. |
| 10:59.57 | Adys | different races/genders will require different defaults for a good model view. you accounting that? |
| 11:01.25 | JoGoiA | no, not yet. but I see what you say. the beast are much larger than orc and are cut |
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| 11:03.25 | JoGoiA | I can have a condition with gender/race on the Setting of the Scale/position in a second time but even with a standart one... It apply only the first time. |
| 11:06.52 | JoGoiA | The same with SetScale.... |
| 11:11.59 | Legorol | Good morning peeps. Or not so good. Heard about the pirate bay ruling? |
| 11:12.33 | zenzio | yup |
| 11:13.31 | zenzio | as we all know, Internet piracy will now instantly vanish for all eternity |
| 11:13.48 | JoGoiA | ^^ |
| 11:14.32 | krka | no worries, i am sticking to somalian piracy, much more profitable |
| 11:14.41 | Legorol | lol @ krka |
| 11:14.50 | Legorol | but nowadays you may get shot if you are not careful |
| 11:14.53 | Legorol | (as a pirate) |
| 11:15.02 | Adys | what ruling legorol? |
| 11:15.03 | zenzio | yeah, damn those new RIAA tactics |
| 11:15.05 | Adys | didnt follow |
| 11:15.07 | krka | yeah, but if i get caught the punishment is probably less severe |
| 11:15.14 | Legorol | rofl |
| 11:15.16 | krka | i mean, it's only stealing boats and stuff |
| 11:15.28 | krka | not like copyright infringement of big movie companies |
| 11:15.31 | zenzio | Adys: they got 1 year in prison and a few million in penalty |
| 11:15.47 | Legorol | Adys: not really a huge deal, but four people in sweden, who run The Pirate Bay, was found guilty of copyright violation. |
| 11:15.48 | Adys | meh |
| 11:15.56 | Legorol | 1 year jail time and a few million euros in damages. |
| 11:16.25 | Legorol | I'm not sure whether I would want them to win or lose actually. |
| 11:16.25 | krka | one of them wasn't really involved in it |
| 11:16.27 | krka | sucks to be him |
| 11:16.53 | Adys | http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2009-04-17-n40.html ouch |
| 11:17.07 | krka | i expect the postal office to be jailed soon, for accessory to drug distribution |
| 11:17.21 | krka | clearly they're not doing a good enough job of inspecting and removing drugs from packages |
| 11:18.43 | Legorol | krka: yeah |
| 11:19.14 | Legorol | on the other hand, there are certain situations where being accessories to something should get you convicted |
| 11:19.21 | Legorol | it's hard to draw the line in the correct place |
| 11:20.07 | krka | i am not sure i agree with having someone being accessory to a crime, without someone being convicted for the actual crime |
| 11:20.15 | Legorol | krka: consider a courier instead who knows he is running packages for drugs dealers, but never looks inside. Should he be able to claim he didn't know what's in it and was just simply providing a courier service? |
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| 11:20.30 | Legorol | that's an excellent point actually |
| 11:20.43 | Legorol | although, again, it gets grey |
| 11:20.48 | krka | law is so weird |
| 11:20.52 | krka | good thing i am not a lawyer |
| 11:20.57 | krka | my mind couldn't accept it |
| 11:21.06 | Legorol | usually, even though using drugs is also illegal, you would want to prosecute the single person selling the drugs |
| 11:21.21 | Legorol | there is a lot higher penalty for selling it |
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| 11:24.18 | krka | selling isn't an accessory though |
| 11:25.00 | Etanol | ~wowmatrix |
| 11:25.00 | purl | ACTION stabs wowmatrix with an icicle made from the frozen tears of lazy users |
| 11:31.07 | Legorol | Interesting observation: on my realm, the prices of Solid Sky Sapphires and Sparkling Sky Sapphires are very very low. You can barely make a profit over selling them to the vendor instead. |
| 11:31.21 | Legorol | This is the opposite of TBC, where Solids were quite expensive |
| 11:33.31 | JoGoiA | How can I wait the model of my player is load to call the SetUnit in the first logging ? |
| 11:34.00 | JoGoiA | Cause I have to reloadUI to see it... |
| 11:34.51 | Legorol | JoGoiA: i don't think there is a way to know when in-game models have successfully loaded. So you could repeatedly call SetUnit once every 10 seconds say for the first five minutes or so. |
| 11:35.17 | JoGoiA | ok... so bad... |
| 11:49.09 | Adys | http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2009/04/socially-adjusted-captchas.html |
| 11:49.12 | Adys | not you too google :( |
| 11:53.41 | zenzio | Adys: your bots are having trouble cracking it? |
| 11:53.56 | Adys | my brain has troubles with any sort of captcha |
| 11:54.03 | Adys | I'm a complete retard, didn't you know |
| 11:54.35 | Etanol | ~captcha |
| 11:55.23 | Legorol | Some text-based captchas can be so hard actually that I fail at the letters |
| 11:55.36 | Legorol | one of the things i dislike is when it's not clear if the captcha is case sensitive or not, and there is a letter O |
| 11:55.45 | Adys | some purely numerical captchas are so fucked up |
| 11:55.48 | Legorol | should i type lower, or upper case O? that gets me often |
| 11:55.49 | Adys | I put letters in them |
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| 11:57.37 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdguyMJprsA |
| 11:57.46 | mikma | NO POK! |
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| 12:06.27 | Kazie | Anyone know, if CooldownButtons will ever be updated again? |
| 12:06.36 | Kazie | or if there is another similar mod, that is? |
| 12:09.55 | mikma | oh man, the WG timer (builtin) is still off |
| 12:11.34 | amro | mikma: the timer on the map "freezes" |
| 12:12.10 | mikma | the builtin timer goes slower than realtime |
| 12:12.30 | mikma | 1 hour in the worldmap timer is actually longer |
| 12:12.50 | amro | yes, that's the case even inside wintergrasp |
| 12:13.09 | mikma | oh well, guess i still have to multiply that time with 1.025 |
| 12:13.30 | amro | we just do it the old fashioned way |
| 12:13.31 | zenzio | Legorol: what always has me curious is whether or not I should include spaces |
| 12:13.50 | Legorol | zenzio: i never include any, i don't think you are expected to :) |
| 12:14.40 | zenzio | Legorol: that's the thing, it varies. It's possible they accept both with and without; but I've seen more than a few that have some noticable gap in the text |
| 12:16.33 | JoGoiA | Ok. I found the UNIT_MODEL_CHANGED event. It's perfect for update the player Model at loggin and I don't have to SetUnit("player") every 10 seconds with it ^^ It is call when the model is fully load at the loggin. |
| 12:17.50 | JoGoiA | But of course, I have the same problem with SetPosition in this case and the player Model is reset too, as the target one. |
| 12:19.40 | Legorol | On 10-man, what level of PvE loot does Emalon drop? |
| 12:22.25 | foxlit | 8.10, I would imagine |
| 12:23.18 | foxlit | "hand, leg or chest T8 (10) set piece for any class" is what wowwiki says |
| 12:23.31 | mikma | [15:22:38] [SERVER] Shutdown in 15:00 |
| 12:24.03 | Stanzilla | same here |
| 12:26.58 | Wobin | aye =( |
| 12:28.07 | Wobin | bah, I've lost my quest objectives panel |
| 12:28.19 | mikma | unlock it |
| 12:28.27 | Wobin | it's off the screen somewhere |
| 12:28.40 | theorbtwo | Does UNIT_MODEL_CHANGED fire when you switch between two armor pieces with the same model? |
| 12:28.50 | Wobin | do you know what the frame name is called? |
| 12:28.58 | JoGoiA | yes ^^ |
| 12:29.03 | mikma | WatchFrame? |
| 12:29.27 | mikma | wobin: try setting 0.64 uiscale first? |
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| 12:30.33 | Wobin | nope |
| 12:30.35 | Wobin | still offscreen |
| 12:31.10 | JoGoiA | My real problem is that SetPosition and SetScale work one time but if I call them another, they don't affect the playerModel... And when I change my tarrget or change my player Model, I call SetUnit and reset the position... |
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| 12:34.05 | JoGoiA | theorbtwo : I had misunderstood your question... In fact, I don't know... |
| 12:34.54 | mikma | wobin: how can you know it's offscreen? |
| 12:34.56 | JoGoiA | I think yes because in pull a piece off, the event fire 2 time ^^ |
| 12:35.22 | zenzio | huggles peppy |
| 12:35.55 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio. |
| 12:36.03 | Wobin | cause I can't see it atm? |
| 12:36.10 | Wobin | So I'm guessing it's off screen |
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| 12:37.27 | mikma | rofl |
| 12:37.39 | mikma | all the servers are down |
| 12:37.42 | mikma | that's cool |
| 12:37.48 | Wobin | yeah |
| 12:37.50 | Wobin | US too |
| 12:37.56 | Aelobin | funny that they go down at 13:37 english time :P |
| 12:37.58 | mikma | i wonder why |
| 12:38.06 | foxlit | On 17/04 there will be a scheduled maintenance to apply a hotfix. Please note that all realms will be offline from 14:30 until 15:30, Paris time (CEST). |
| 12:38.17 | Fisker- | serious hotfix business |
| 12:38.22 | mikma | MORE INFO |
| 12:38.25 | Aelobin | srs bznz? |
| 12:38.30 | Fisker- | srs |
| 12:38.32 | foxlit | Hot hot fixing action! |
| 12:38.34 | mikma | i hate this "we'll put a hotfix kkthxbb" |
| 12:38.42 | mikma | "we are hotfixing issue foo" |
| 12:39.02 | foxlit | "Fixed an issue where mikma would occasionally be able to defeat and loot NPCs" |
| 12:39.09 | JoGoiA | hope they'll fix Ignis 10 ^^ |
| 12:39.35 | nevcairiel | mikma: they have this recent-hotfixes thread for that =) |
| 12:39.45 | mikma | nevcairiel: waaa? where? |
| 12:40.00 | mikma | jogoia: 50k hits? |
| 12:40.04 | foxlit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16474158165&sid=1 |
| 12:40.07 | nevcairiel | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/23/16474158165-recent-ingame-fixes--41609.html |
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| 12:40.21 | nevcairiel | they just append fixes to the end of the list |
| 12:40.38 | mikma | oh snap! |
| 12:40.43 | nevcairiel | or rather, at the end of the day-list |
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| 12:41.58 | mikma | ~hotfix |
| 12:42.10 | mikma | purl: hotfix is <reply> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16474158165&sid=1 |
| 12:42.11 | purl | mikma: okay |
| 12:42.20 | JoGoiA | the man in the pot dosn't have the debuff but the tank... |
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| 12:43.17 | foxlit | the US EU forums are boring |
| 12:43.26 | foxlit | Now that all of the WM threads appear to have vanished |
| 12:44.15 | Lopeppeppy | Oh thank the stars. |
| 12:44.28 | mikma | jogoia: well ignis hits the players in the pit for 50k (should hit for 5k) |
| 12:44.41 | nevcairiel | ignis should not hit the player in the pit at all |
| 12:44.46 | nevcairiel | that he melees them is a bug |
| 12:45.06 | nevcairiel | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/12/16418872579-ignis-one-shotting-geared-tanks.html |
| 12:45.24 | Wobin | # The gates in the Ring of Valor arena have been removed so players are now free to begin combat as soon as the elevators reach the floor of the arena. |
| 12:45.25 | Wobin | # We modif |
| 12:45.28 | Lopeppeppy | foxlit, you tease, they aren't gone, they're right there on the US forums still. |
| 12:45.30 | Wobin | and he gets cut off =( |
| 12:45.40 | nevcairiel | those are old changes anyway |
| 12:45.43 | mikma | hohoo |
| 12:45.53 | foxlit | Peppy: perhaps I'm getting the crappy drama-free edition :( |
| 12:46.06 | mikma | wobin: where did you paste that one? patchnotes? |
| 12:46.14 | Lopeppeppy | They're still on page one for me, foxlit. |
| 12:46.16 | Wobin | bottom of the post |
| 12:46.20 | Wobin | that was linked above |
| 12:46.23 | foxlit | There is no "matrix" on my page 1 |
| 12:46.37 | Lopeppeppy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11114&sid=1 |
| 12:46.39 | mikma | wobin: aaaah :D |
| 12:46.43 | mikma | right, it get's chopped |
| 12:46.45 | Aelobin | "The gates in the Ring of Valor arena have been removed so players are now free to begin combat as soon as the elevators reach the floor of the arena. " |
| 12:46.47 | Aelobin | awesome... :P |
| 12:47.04 | Aelobin | i wonder if the "trick" still works to get all the way to the top before the elevator does :P |
| 12:47.08 | foxlit | Peppy: point out a thread title |
| 12:47.12 | Lopeppeppy | Wowmatrix stopped working today. WoWMatris... If you want me to use Curse... A plea to Blizzard... |
| 12:47.27 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry, second one is WoWMatrix. They spelled it right, I didn't. |
| 12:47.42 | foxlit | Hm, fascinating |
| 12:47.53 | foxlit | I see none of those |
| 12:48.18 | nevcairiel | wut |
| 12:48.19 | nevcairiel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/blizztracker.html?sid=1 |
| 12:48.21 | nevcairiel | thats new |
| 12:48.37 | Lopeppeppy | Foxlit, that's messed up. That's all I can say. |
| 12:49.41 | foxlit | Lopeppeppy: http://www.go-hero.net/content/store/topiclist.png |
| 12:49.48 | Adys | people who compare using wowmatrix to downloading music piss me off |
| 12:50.28 | amro | rofl |
| 12:50.30 | foxlit | And suddenly I see why |
| 12:50.35 | Lopeppeppy | foxlit, are you on the English NA forum, or the europe? |
| 12:50.46 | foxlit | Lopeppeppy: It's enUS |
| 12:50.52 | Kraftman | he cant be on the europe, theres a blue post |
| 12:51.03 | Lopeppeppy | Whatev-uh, English NA is what shows in my title bar. :P |
| 12:51.16 | foxlit | There's a huge hint in all of those names |
| 12:51.25 | mikma | nevcairiel: nice |
| 12:51.38 | foxlit | I suspect links like |
| 12:51.39 | foxlit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11114&pageNo=1&sort=6&desc=false&sid=1 |
| 12:51.43 | foxlit | Are evil |
| 12:51.45 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, they don't look so special. |
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| 12:52.35 | mikma | http://www.wowmatrix.com/contact.html |
| 12:52.42 | mikma | insert lots of lol lol lol -messages. |
| 12:53.12 | foxlit | (especially since the sort state seems to be kept in a cookie) |
| 12:53.36 | Aelobin | 0_o only just read the thing about enforcing the UI policy |
| 12:54.21 | Legorol | Does anyone know if Emalon drops T7.5 or T8 PvE items on 10-man? |
| 12:54.30 | Legorol | Aelobin: which one? |
| 12:54.48 | Aelobin | saying that 19th may they will be "enforcing it"by contacting authors directly if they havent sorted out the addons by then |
| 12:54.57 | Legorol | ah that one |
| 12:55.06 | nevcairiel | Legorol: T8.10 on 10 man, and T8.25 on 25 |
| 12:55.10 | Aelobin | im on EU you see :) plus i dont even check our forums lol |
| 12:55.24 | Legorol | nevcairiel: despite it dropping Deadly on 10-man? |
| 12:55.27 | Wobin | that's alright, Aelobin, neither does anyone else |
| 12:55.33 | Legorol | so it drops two slightly different levels of loot? |
| 12:55.43 | foxlit | Legorol: there's no such thing as 10-man arena gear :) |
| 12:56.03 | Aelobin | im interested at "contact you directly" - set author to leeroyjenkins? XD |
| 12:56.33 | Legorol | foxlit: right, but in that case, i just figured it'd be more appropriate for Emalon to drop the same i-level PvE items as well |
| 12:56.36 | Legorol | such as T7.5 |
| 12:56.46 | nevcairiel | Legorol: well there is no 10man pvp set =P |
| 12:56.50 | nevcairiel | so they drop the previous season |
| 12:57.05 | Legorol | by that argument it could drop hateful ;) that's also previous season |
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| 12:58.04 | Legorol | or, Emalon could drop the lower-tier season 6 set? |
| 12:58.11 | Legorol | i don't know if season 6 is bringing two tiers or not |
| 12:58.30 | foxlit | Wouldn't that be the same gear dropped by archavon? |
| 12:59.06 | Legorol | archavon drops season 5 gier |
| 12:59.08 | Legorol | *gear |
| 12:59.10 | Adys | foxlit: uh |
| 12:59.15 | Legorol | hateful in 10-man, deadly in 25-man |
| 12:59.15 | Adys | you are sorting by author |
| 12:59.18 | Adys | not by date |
| 12:59.44 | Kraftman | i think he noticed :) |
| 12:59.55 | Adys | i dont know Im not reading |
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| 13:01.31 | amro | Legorol: emalon drops drama on random pugs |
| 13:01.48 | Adys | Subject: Nanotechnology |
| 13:01.49 | Adys | "184 Sexual intercourse stock photos and images." |
| 13:02.00 | Adys | there is a LOT I could think right now |
| 13:02.18 | mikma | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/ <- people are .. |
| 13:02.31 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeple are stupid. |
| 13:03.00 | Adys | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/8797991126-death.html |
| 13:03.06 | Adys | "when you die you cant res at your corpse unless you relog" |
| 13:03.11 | Adys | "If you are unable to resurrect , can you try and log out and back in near your corpse?" |
| 13:03.23 | mikma | i saw a hilarious message in trade 2mins before shutdown... |
| 13:03.41 | mikma | "quitting wow! giving 10k to first person meeting me at mailbox in 3min!" |
| 13:04.03 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:04.13 | nevcairiel | people always do that on shutdown |
| 13:04.19 | Legorol | Funniest QQ thread I saw today: mana users are complaining that their mana is drained to 0 on switching dual spec |
| 13:04.24 | mikma | on ED they just spam retarded stuff |
| 13:04.39 | foxlit | Legorol: TOTALLY UNFAIR CAN HAS FIX NAO! |
| 13:05.17 | Legorol | well, they are complaining that it's unfair because *other* clases are not penalised, and they want a penalty on others |
| 13:05.21 | mikma | legorol: well, they don't think it like so: it's a X second long cast that has 100% mana ause |
| 13:05.23 | Legorol | "I want YOUR toy, not mine!! QQ" |
| 13:05.38 | Legorol | the thing is, i even sympathise with their arguments |
| 13:05.43 | Legorol | but the level of QQ is just.. |
| 13:06.05 | mikma | I'm drowning in the river or tear!!!!111oneone ? |
| 13:06.10 | Legorol | it *is* true that a non-mana user switching spec is immediately combat ready |
| 13:06.15 | amro | to be honest, it is kinda lame |
| 13:06.24 | mikma | who needs niagara falls when you got wow QQ |
| 13:06.30 | Legorol | rofl |
| 13:06.33 | Lopeppeppy | I need water. |
| 13:07.07 | Legorol | are the mechanics for switching dual spec unbalanced between mana and non-mana users? yes |
| 13:07.11 | Legorol | is the unbalance big? no |
| 13:07.18 | Legorol | is it worth a thread to QQ about? definitely |
| 13:07.40 | Legorol | i think i should post saying: "my warrior has downtime when grinding as i have to eat, but DKs don't. i want the same downtime for everyone when grinding" |
| 13:07.41 | amro | not worth the QQ as it's only a minor handicap, but it's still lame |
| 13:08.01 | Lopeppeppy | They've already said they're considering buffing water so that mana refill doesn't take as long. |
| 13:08.05 | amro | it's not the same Legorol |
| 13:08.10 | Legorol | amro: well there are tons of unevennesses in the game |
| 13:08.23 | Legorol | you look anywhere you can come up with 10 examples of where one class or another has an advantage |
| 13:08.29 | amro | dual spec is not part of gameplay mechanics, however |
| 13:08.32 | Legorol | this is just a mere water droplet in that grand scheme of things |
| 13:08.40 | Legorol | amro: ok, you just admitted the key point |
| 13:08.50 | Legorol | if it's not a game mechanic, then do NOT use it as one, and then it's a nonissue |
| 13:09.11 | Legorol | the QQ is only valid in a context where you are attempting quickly spec between two fights |
| 13:09.14 | amro | reading comprehension, legorol |
| 13:09.21 | amro | [14:07:39] <amro> not worth the QQ as it's only a minor handicap, but it's still lame |
| 13:09.45 | mikma | <flood> :D |
| 13:09.46 | mikma | <1607> <Firvaldur> finland !! you have better not telling anything to the space cops ! |
| 13:09.49 | Legorol | the mana drain fixes more problems then it creates, hence not lame :) |
| 13:09.49 | mikma | <1608> <@mikma> we can't |
| 13:09.51 | mikma | <1608> <@mikma> we got nuked, remember? |
| 13:09.54 | mikma | <1608> <Firvaldur> ahh ! that's right |
| 13:10.23 | amro | Legorol: keep deciding what's lame for me |
| 13:10.34 | mikma | legorol: TELL HIM HIS NICK! |
| 13:10.40 | Legorol | rofl |
| 13:10.47 | Adys | its not imbalance |
| 13:10.54 | Adys | its just lameness |
| 13:10.55 | Legorol | amro: flight time is lame |
| 13:11.05 | amro | Legorol: you're missing the point |
| 13:11.13 | amro | I don't care much about it, I evocate and move on |
| 13:11.16 | amro | I'm just saying it's lame |
| 13:11.24 | Adys | unnecessary |
| 13:11.25 | Legorol | ok |
| 13:11.29 | Adys | just makes for a timewaste |
| 13:11.37 | Legorol | Adys: a blue posted explaining why it's necessary |
| 13:11.42 | Adys | link? |
| 13:11.44 | Legorol | i'll dig it up for you if you want |
| 13:11.45 | amro | Legorol: do link |
| 13:11.51 | mikma | legorol: i'd goatse them now |
| 13:12.03 | Legorol | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=8797811257&pageNo=2&sid=1#23 |
| 13:12.16 | amro | goatse would explain why it's necessary |
| 13:12.58 | amro | Legorol: I can't heal. remove it for me? |
| 13:13.17 | Legorol | you can however switch to arcane |
| 13:13.20 | foxlit | Just have it incapacitate you for however long you want the spec change to take |
| 13:13.21 | amro | and? |
| 13:13.26 | foxlit | And/or increase the cast time |
| 13:13.37 | amro | if they fixed level 80 food, it wouldn't be an issue |
| 13:13.47 | amro | I have to eat twice on my DK |
| 13:14.04 | foxlit | my DK got the "tastes like chicken" achievement! |
| 13:14.04 | Legorol | btw, for the record: the only char i bought dual spec on so far is a priest :) |
| 13:14.34 | Legorol | amro: i agree about the food |
| 13:14.43 | Legorol | i'd love to have food that's % health based |
| 13:14.47 | Legorol | that'd be the ideal solution imo |
| 13:15.11 | Legorol | it allows a party to sit down, eat, and everyone to be done at about the saame time |
| 13:15.37 | amro | in any case, respeccing and healing self would probably end up taking just as long |
| 13:15.52 | amro | and you lose your other spec's buffs when you switch, so it's not an issue |
| 13:15.57 | theorbtwo | Legorol: Or you can just say that higher-level characters should have higher-level food. |
| 13:16.13 | Legorol | theorbtwo: doesn't quite work, because at level 80 progression is gear based, not level based |
| 13:16.22 | amro | theorbtwo: we do. it just stinks as it doesn't scale |
| 13:16.23 | Legorol | there are 80s in blues/greens |
| 13:16.35 | Legorol | they shouldn't have food that heals them to full in 2 seconds |
| 13:16.59 | mikma | purl: no, hotfix is <reply> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11113&sid=1 |
| 13:17.00 | purl | okay, mikma |
| 13:17.04 | Legorol | since character progression changes nature at 80, there needs to be level 80 food that also changes nature |
| 13:17.16 | foxlit | have stamina increase health regeneration rate |
| 13:17.23 | foxlit | and remove spirit already |
| 13:17.37 | Adys | remove every different levels of food |
| 13:17.37 | Legorol | that'd be OP for warriors :) |
| 13:17.39 | Adys | make it all % based |
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| 13:17.48 | mikma | yey servers are rising |
| 13:17.50 | Legorol | Adys: which is what i suggested :) |
| 13:17.55 | mikma | also, LOLOLOOOOWNED! http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/8797851248-demanding-1-day-game-time.html |
| 13:17.56 | amro | they've dumbed down wow to hell anyway, might as well take it all the way |
| 13:17.58 | Adys | I know but i suggested it long ago |
| 13:18.01 | theorbtwo | Legorol: On the other hand, if they are at full health, they still have less health then the othre guys. |
| 13:18.19 | amro | theorbtwo: irrelevant |
| 13:19.46 | Legorol | i guess you could argue that when grinding, amount of incoming average damage per unit time interval doesn't scale with your gear (if anything it goes down), |
| 13:19.56 | Legorol | so the amount of health you regain when grinding shouldn't scale either |
| 13:20.23 | Legorol | with the proposed %-based food mechanics, when you are out grinding, you will effectively speed up grinding |
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| 13:20.55 | foxlit | I don't think there are too many classes that are limited by HP regeneration for grinding. |
| 13:21.07 | Legorol | warrior, craply specced DK :) |
| 13:21.17 | amro | not at level 80 |
| 13:21.23 | amro | you just 2 shot everything and be on your way |
| 13:21.34 | Legorol | you still have to eat at some point, your Hp is not infinite |
| 13:21.41 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_041709_063411.jpg <- spot the fail |
| 13:21.50 | Legorol | i don't regen enough health between pulls on my warrior to be able to grind nonstop |
| 13:21.58 | Legorol | although i bandage instead of eating :) |
| 13:22.24 | Adys | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=8797850048&sid=1 |
| 13:22.27 | Legorol | mikma: known issue |
| 13:22.34 | theorbtwo | Having the same food do more health/second for better chars would just make things easier at the high end, which isn't the idea. |
| 13:22.37 | Adys | I LOST TALENTS BUT THE STRANGE THING IS I CAN USE THEM |
| 13:22.39 | Adys | WTF GUISE |
| 13:22.49 | Legorol | mikma: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=8797690740&sid=1 |
| 13:22.51 | Adys | called display issues |
| 13:22.52 | theorbtwo | Also, it'd throw the price of food something horrible. |
| 13:22.54 | Adys | friggin gah |
| 13:23.15 | amro | mikma: the fail is that you're unholy |
| 13:23.55 | amro | theorbtwo: it IS the idea |
| 13:24.06 | mikma | amro: it's not a fail. |
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| 13:24.34 | mikma | amro: what's the ultimate dps spec now then? |
| 13:24.51 | theorbtwo | amro: You think being a highly-geared level 80 is *too hard*? |
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| 13:24.57 | amro | I don't really care, I choose the spec I like |
| 13:25.10 | mikma | there you go then, stepped in your own fail |
| 13:25.21 | amro | theorbtwo: you think sitting down eating for 1 minute is fun? |
| 13:25.28 | foxlit | I don't think it matters for DKs |
| 13:25.43 | amro | mikma: way to miss a joke |
| 13:25.48 | foxlit | Everything seems to do sufficient damage for 80 solo content |
| 13:25.57 | amro | I forgot wow is serious business |
| 13:26.23 | theorbtwo | amro: I think I do it, as a level 30, more then you do it as a level 80. |
| 13:26.43 | amro | theorbtwo: I never said it should take you longer |
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| 13:26.53 | amro | heck, the biggest downtime for me levelling my mage was drinking |
| 13:26.58 | amro | must have spent a few hours doing that |
| 13:27.55 | Adys | [16:21:41] <mikma> http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_041709_063411.jpg <- spot the fail |
| 13:28.10 | Adys | the fail is in the middle bottom of the screen |
| 13:28.18 | Adys | its your actionbars and they suck |
| 13:28.26 | Kraftman | aww |
| 13:28.28 | Kraftman | thats not nice |
| 13:28.33 | Adys | but they do |
| 13:29.08 | mikma | how can they suck |
| 13:29.13 | Tenchworks | ok noob alert, been a while since I last used IRC, can anyone tell me the command that gives you info on a username and when they where last logged in/channel they wwhere last seen, I'm pretty sure it's a command for a bot but don't remember what |
| 13:29.50 | mikma | it's /msg purl seen nick |
| 13:29.50 | Lopeppeppy | We have a bot. ~seen xxx |
| 13:29.54 | Lopeppeppy | ~seen Lopeppeppy |
| 13:29.57 | purl | lopeppeppy is currently on #wowuidev (59m 52s). Has said a total of 16 messages. Is idling for 3s, last said: '~seen Lopeppeppy'. |
| 13:30.03 | mikma | also |
| 13:30.08 | Tenchworks | sweet thanks |
| 13:30.11 | mikma | using PRIVATEMESSAGES is way better |
| 13:30.20 | Lopeppeppy | But mikma's right, you can whisper purl and everyone is much happier that way. |
| 13:30.23 | mikma | so rather /msg purl seen nick than ~seen nick :) |
| 13:30.29 | Tenchworks | doing just that |
| 13:30.31 | Kraftman | who made purl/ |
| 13:30.35 | Tenchworks | thanks |
| 13:30.56 | mikma | Tim Riker afaik |
| 13:30.58 | Lopeppeppy | Kraftman, I think it was... timriker? |
| 13:31.02 | Kraftman | kk |
| 13:31.09 | Kraftman | im trying to make a similar bot myself |
| 13:31.32 | theorbtwo | search.cpan.org, Bot::BasicBot::Pluggable, IIRC. |
| 13:31.46 | Kraftman | ive got most of the functionatily working |
| 13:31.53 | theorbtwo | Not that there aren't plenty of ways to make IRC bots. |
| 13:31.54 | Kraftman | just not the ~seen stuff |
| 13:32.08 | Kraftman | but i think i can add that ok |
| 13:32.36 | mikma | purl sources are available i think |
| 13:32.36 | purl | ...but sources is already something else... |
| 13:32.51 | Tenchworks | lol |
| 13:32.53 | nevcairiel | purl, what are you |
| 13:32.54 | purl | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 13:33.00 | nevcairiel | ~blootbot |
| 13:33.01 | purl | i heard blootbot is an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. This project is now merged back into the main infobot project. See [infobot] |
| 13:33.28 | mikma | hehe |
| 13:33.33 | mikma | http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ |
| 13:33.39 | Kraftman | meh, i think its good for me to teach myseld |
| 13:33.41 | Kraftman | myself* |
| 13:33.51 | Kraftman | learn some lua outside of wow |
| 13:34.02 | Kraftman | thanks for the link ^^ |
| 13:34.18 | mikma | http://infobot.sourceforge.net/ |
| 13:35.09 | mikma | meh, quite interesting.. |
| 13:35.22 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07pRaxq7GTk shows frost spec has most dps.. must be lucky |
| 13:36.57 | Adys | sdkfjhsdfkljhlkdjh )jdjh |
| 13:37.06 | Adys | people who whine over changing an icon |
| 13:37.12 | Adys | "old users might not recognize it" |
| 13:37.13 | Adys | ONCE |
| 13:37.16 | Adys | FUCKING ONCE. |
| 13:37.31 | Adys | then they'll memorize it and know it for their lifetime |
| 13:38.07 | Adys | most foss contributors (and usually not main devs) are worse whiners than lamba wow player |
| 13:38.13 | mikma | blood spec: dps 3212.6, frost spec: 4184.8, unholy spec: 3798.4 |
| 13:40.10 | augustl | Adys: lulz, which con? |
| 13:40.21 | Adys | something on wine-devel |
| 13:40.42 | foxlit | They really should fix the sound physics in WoW |
| 13:40.55 | Adys | fuck sound physics |
| 13:40.55 | augustl | Adys: if apple decided to change the safari or iTunes icon, I'd probably say the same |
| 13:40.59 | Adys | invest in world brain surgery |
| 13:41.03 | augustl | Adys: (for the sake of argument) |
| 13:41.17 | mikma | uuuuuuuh |
| 13:41.21 | mikma | http://us.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Mug%27thol&n=Ryakk&group=2 |
| 13:41.24 | Adys | i dont even remember the safari/itunes icon |
| 13:41.34 | Adys | i mean |
| 13:41.39 | Adys | i really really wouldnt care |
| 13:41.45 | foxlit | Decay of amplitude with distance should be way, way, way more significant than it currently is. |
| 13:41.46 | Adys | if an icon gets better from release a to release b |
| 13:41.52 | Adys | ill get used to release b and be happy |
| 13:43.19 | theorbtwo | foxlit: On the other hand, "mob is aggroing on you" would be either impossible to hear unless you are already next to them (in which case, you probably noticed them hitting you), or too loud when you are close. |
| 13:43.28 | theorbtwo | Fun is more important then realisim. |
| 13:43.58 | foxlit | Been to the argent grounds recently? |
| 13:44.19 | theorbtwo | No. |
| 13:44.44 | foxlit | They have the latter problem: you DROWN in noises that have nothing to do with you |
| 13:45.19 | theorbtwo | Hm. |
| 13:47.39 | Adys | http://jkroon.blogs.uls.co.za/it/spam/ahead-of-the-spammers-for-once |
| 13:47.40 | Adys | see |
| 13:47.40 | augustl | I wish you could control "noises" somehow |
| 13:47.49 | Adys | this is EXACTLY what i was talking about a while ago |
| 13:47.49 | augustl | so that you could use sounds in raids to grok your procs and shit |
| 13:47.57 | augustl | but you can't hear anythin' in raids |
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| 13:49.59 | mikma | cool, armory shows glyphs now |
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| 13:58.35 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
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| 14:01.06 | Lopeppeppy | Heyo |
| 14:01.18 | Etanol | oh hai |
| 14:03.08 | augustl | http://starcraft2.com/features/battlereports/2.xml I came |
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| 14:04.29 | Etanol | eeeeq |
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| 14:05.34 | kneeki | augustl: When was this posted, any idea? |
| 14:05.44 | augustl | no |
| 14:05.50 | augustl | I don't even remember where I saw it |
| 14:06.02 | augustl | the shock of the awesomeness pwnd my memory |
| 14:06.09 | kneeki | rofl |
| 14:06.14 | Lopeppeppy | Poor baby. |
| 14:06.40 | JoGoiA | can someOne look at my problem ? I have no more idea... |
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| 14:07.13 | Kraftman | whats the problem? |
| 14:08.01 | JoGoiA | I make a playerModel then SetPosition |
| 14:08.33 | JoGoiA | when I change the unit with SetUnit, the position and the scale is reset. |
| 14:08.37 | JoGoiA | http://www.talbuk.org/POSTER/BozDreamingRaid.rar |
| 14:09.08 | JoGoiA | It's an example (with target ^^ |
| 14:09.45 | JoGoiA | The setting of the position works after a reloadUI but not the other times... |
| 14:11.11 | Kraftman | you're changing line 39 or? |
| 14:11.51 | JoGoiA | I change the model in the change_target event. |
| 14:12.52 | JoGoiA | Yes, in line 39 ^^ |
| 14:13.32 | JoGoiA | the SetAlpha and SetFacing works good but Scale and Position are reset... |
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| 14:13.48 | Kraftman | and changing targets doesnt effect it? |
| 14:14.27 | JoGoiA | when I change target, the model change but the position is 0,0,0 |
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| 14:15.22 | augustl | JoGoiA: when you change unit, try to ClearAllPoints() and then SetPoint() again |
| 14:15.23 | JoGoiA | the BDR_ModelTarget:SetPosition(0,0,-1); works only the first time after a reloadUI. the other times, the model is not at his place. |
| 14:15.26 | augustl | oh wait, you're using setPosition |
| 14:15.34 | augustl | I have no idea what I'm talking about anyway, so nvm |
| 14:16.15 | JoGoiA | I look at this ClearAllPoints() and then SetPoint() ^^ it's a new idea ! |
| 14:16.25 | augustl | better than nothing hehe |
| 14:16.29 | JoGoiA | ^^ |
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| 14:16.49 | augustl | I thought you were encountering something I was encountering before, but that's probably not the case |
| 14:16.52 | Kraftman | setpoint is for frames, setposition is for models? |
| 14:17.31 | JoGoiA | yes. the Frame is good. I want to place the model in the frame. |
| 14:17.43 | JoGoiA | to cut the legs ^^ |
| 14:17.53 | Kraftman | sounds painful |
| 14:18.02 | JoGoiA | it is ^^ |
| 14:18.22 | Aelobin | What's the addon called that tells you when to switch to aspect of the viper to not over-aggro your pet? (Hunter) |
| 14:20.04 | JoGoiA | I try to clear the model before setting it but it's not the good tricks... |
| 14:20.39 | JoGoiA | Is there any addon which do this ? I'll look at the code. |
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| 14:21.25 | Lopeppeppy | Like was... zuxana's model citizen did? |
| 14:22.22 | JoGoiA | Year ! I DL this ^^ |
| 14:22.56 | Lopeppeppy | Or http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7029-ZMobDBAdvanced6.html |
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| 14:34.32 | mikma | oh |
| 14:34.41 | mikma | Howling Blast won't take any bonus from diseases |
| 14:35.18 | Etanol | correct |
| 14:35.26 | Etanol | quite a nice change |
| 14:35.41 | mikma | yeah :) |
| 14:36.44 | mikma | just wait for Killing Machine to proc and BOOM! |
| 14:37.31 | JoGoiA | In Zmob, they use SetCamera. I have now to found how to make an index for camera, then use it ^^ It's a good trick ! |
| 14:40.06 | Wobin | I've replaced IT now |
| 14:40.08 | Wobin | with HB |
| 14:40.22 | Wobin | (and the glyph) |
| 14:40.39 | mikma | hmmh |
| 14:41.20 | mikma | oh damn, missed that glyph |
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| 14:41.39 | Wobin | its a new one |
| 14:41.55 | mikma | then it'll be expensive when someone learns it |
| 14:42.05 | Wobin | I paid 40g |
| 14:42.08 | Wobin | shrugs |
| 14:42.23 | Wobin | although he was selling it on the AH for 100 =P |
| 14:42.30 | Wobin | Explosive Shot is another of the expensive ones |
| 14:42.52 | mikma | hmm... Cinderglacier or Razorice... |
| 14:43.13 | Wobin | what does CG do again? |
| 14:43.48 | mikma | chance to increase dmg 20% for next 2 attacks that deal frost or shadow damage |
| 14:43.52 | Lopeppeppy | He's a Blizz guy and current Top Posting blue on the forums. |
| 14:44.10 | Wobin | hehe it's been so long since I've used any rune aside from garg/parry/crusader |
| 14:44.10 | nevcairiel | CG is lead class designer, iirc |
| 14:44.18 | nevcairiel | er, GC :P |
| 14:44.32 | Wobin | =P I definitely said CG |
| 14:44.33 | nevcairiel | but wob meant something else |
| 14:44.37 | mikma | razorice is 2% more damage and chance to increase vulnerability to frost attacks |
| 14:45.15 | Wobin | hm |
| 14:45.24 | Wobin | my dps build is blood |
| 14:46.01 | Wobin | that's just all physical |
| 14:46.02 | Wobin | isn't it? |
| 14:46.23 | Lopeppeppy | Dyslexia FTW, sorry Wobin. |
| 14:46.28 | |Jelly| | gotta keep those diseases up still, unfortunately. |
| 14:47.19 | Wobin | I was thinking the disease glyph |
| 14:47.43 | Wobin | maybe |
| 14:47.56 | Wobin | although the CE glyph would be fun =) |
| 14:48.01 | Wobin | I'm lovin CE =) |
| 14:48.13 | Wobin | *BOOM!* hahaha |
| 14:49.37 | mikma | ya |
| 14:49.48 | mikma | CE friendly corpses = loving it |
| 14:50.41 | mikma | well well... |
| 14:50.45 | mikma | glyphs are hard as frost |
| 14:51.02 | mikma | since you need to keep the diseases up... |
| 14:53.05 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMVZG0xxAbckf0Vostc:TapMmV |
| 14:53.09 | mikma | maybe go with this |
| 14:53.31 | mikma | then you can just spam pestilence to keep the diseases up |
| 14:54.01 | mikma | and if you use blood boil after that, you can dump blood strike completely |
| 14:54.25 | mikma | now all i need is the damn glyph of HB :D |
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| 15:29.19 | Nuckin | good morning #wowuidev |
| 15:29.25 | Lopeppeppy | Morning. |
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| 15:32.08 | Wobin | I replaced my unbreakable armour glpyh with the HB one |
| 15:32.19 | Wobin | because I still like the Dark Command one |
| 15:32.25 | Wobin | and the Oblit one |
| 15:32.31 | Wobin | but that's all tanky stuff |
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| 15:40.29 | Wobin | anyone know any good SIP phone software? |
| 15:41.09 | mikma | oh, Sigil of Awareness has got a boost |
| 15:41.35 | Wobin | yeah, has Deathstrike on it too now |
| 15:42.09 | mikma | yeah |
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| 15:44.44 | Lunessa | station. |
| 15:45.54 | Legorol | SoA is imba |
| 15:48.52 | foxlit | wtb soa for druids! |
| 15:51.03 | Lunessa | soa? (I'm felling slow today). |
| 15:51.13 | foxlit | mikma: oh, Sigil of Awareness has got a boost |
| 15:51.16 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 15:51.26 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40207 |
| 15:52.13 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: you play mouse hunt? |
| 15:52.53 | nicoli_s | wow, we have alot more drop info that wowhead |
| 15:53.21 | Wobin | how much do you need? |
| 15:53.22 | foxlit | Hey, fix wowdb so that I can do http://www.wowdb.com/?item=40207 |
| 15:53.25 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, I does. |
| 15:53.30 | augustl | blizzards needs to l2 default browser. The links in the launcher opens IE, regardless of default browser settings (which most definitely is not IE on my system) |
| 15:53.32 | Wobin | I like how deathstrike is the new obliterate for bloodspec |
| 15:53.39 | nicoli_s | 705k kills of Heigan the Unclean on wowdb as opposed to wowhead |
| 15:53.58 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: zomg I didn't know that!!! |
| 15:54.46 | Lopeppeppy | Catch a mousie an be interesting. |
| 15:54.51 | foxlit | wowdb client is somehow related to the curse client? :) |
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| 15:55.03 | nicoli_s | wowdb doesnt have a client, just an addon |
| 15:55.29 | foxlit | What uploads its data? |
| 15:55.34 | foxlit | What installs and updates it? |
| 15:55.43 | nicoli_s | the curse client does |
| 15:57.13 | foxlit | Then the curse client, in my book, *is* the wowdb client |
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| 15:57.33 | foxlit | I wasn't actually sure about the relation, so I picked a looser formulation. |
| 15:59.07 | nicoli_s | the curse client is the [wow|war|runes]db client |
| 15:59.55 | foxlit | That makes the disparity in the amount of submitted information somewhat understandable. |
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| 16:00.31 | nicoli_s | huh? |
| 16:00.37 | nicoli_s | oh nm |
| 16:00.44 | nicoli_s | read what you said wrong |
| 16:04.17 | kneeki | The warlock conflag (-30%) nerf already happened yeah? |
| 16:05.39 | Lopeppeppy | They did something to it, kneeki. |
| 16:06.50 | Lunessa | http://xkcd.com/570/ - read the <alt> text |
| 16:06.54 | jnwhiteh | Yay! |
| 16:07.00 | jnwhiteh | I'm in violation of the UI policy |
| 16:07.08 | foxlit | congratulations! |
| 16:07.10 | jnwhiteh | some anonymous posted on WowI decided they should notify me |
| 16:07.11 | jnwhiteh | vomits |
| 16:07.32 | Lopeppeppy | Always someone has to go and make protests. |
| 16:07.38 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 16:07.48 | foxlit | Now now, nobody wants to have you vanish in a puff of legal smoke! |
| 16:07.51 | jnwhiteh | he'll be pissed that I edited his comment to make it clear that he is stating his opinion |
| 16:07.55 | jnwhiteh | but *shrug* |
| 16:08.44 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: I probably owe you a multitude of drinks too. |
| 16:08.52 | jnwhiteh | why for? |
| 16:09.18 | Lunessa | Clique, TomTom, help with lua, etc. |
| 16:09.40 | jnwhiteh | meh, I do it for me :P |
| 16:09.44 | jnwhiteh | Just glad you find em useful too |
| 16:10.20 | augustl | are there any write-ups around for how to write load on demand codez? |
| 16:10.51 | jnwhiteh | Please don't call anything "codez" |
| 16:10.54 | jnwhiteh | and what do you mean? |
| 16:10.59 | jnwhiteh | writing load on demand addons? |
| 16:11.31 | augustl | yeah, I think that is what I mean |
| 16:11.43 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowwiki.com/AddonLoader |
| 16:11.44 | augustl | an addon that doesn't load until you join a raid group, for instance |
| 16:11.52 | jnwhiteh | you need something to help with that |
| 16:11.57 | jnwhiteh | the page I linked in the standard |
| 16:12.01 | jnwhiteh | and its really easy then =) |
| 16:12.06 | jnwhiteh | just a simple .TOC directive and it works |
| 16:12.13 | augustl | yay! |
| 16:12.22 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder. |
| 16:12.32 | jnwhiteh | you can see example usage in WowLua |
| 16:12.38 | foxlit | The lower border on the default UI icons seems to be suffering from compression artifacts affecting its quality |
| 16:12.39 | jnwhiteh | and there are a bunch of other ones, I just know its in there |
| 16:13.13 | foxlit | Wonder if I should retouch that if I'm shipping another icon anyway |
| 16:14.18 | AckisWork | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/04/17/funny-pictures-video-kitteh-vs-potato/ <-- AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 16:15.04 | jnwhiteh | [Ammo]: ## X-LoadOn-LDB-Launcher: Interface\AddOns\myAddon\icon |
| 16:15.05 | jnwhiteh | ## X-LoadOn-LDB-Launcher: Interface\AddOns\myAddon\icon myAddonLauncher |
| 16:15.06 | jnwhiteh | win! |
| 16:15.09 | jnwhiteh | I didn't know you added that :P |
| 16:15.16 | AckisWork | jnwhiteh: your codez is in violation of the UI policy and it doesn't work on wrath? |
| 16:15.17 | Lopeppeppy | I approve the original intent of this thread... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16474258494&sid=1 *giggle* |
| 16:16.31 | Seerah | thanks for link, AckisWork |
| 16:17.05 | AckisWork | Seerah: potatoes r srs buzness |
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| 16:21.15 | AckisWork | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yRifXI7sYQ wow... lego on crack |
| 16:23.32 | Lunessa | Now posted to my office door: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/04/16/funny-pictures-it-elebinty-times/ |
| 16:23.41 | Lunessa | I'm never going to get promoted. |
| 16:24.16 | AckisWork | lol |
| 16:24.28 | Vilkku | Lunessa, http://vilkku.org/images/ei_mainoksia/ei%20mainoksia.png <- I put that on my door |
| 16:24.40 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, if I could post those, I seriously WOULD! |
| 16:24.44 | Vilkku | (it says the same thing in finnish at the bottom, for stupid mailmen) |
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| 16:25.05 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/04/17/funny-pictures-here-kitty-kitty/ |
| 16:25.16 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: My boss laughs every time I put one on my door. |
| 16:26.04 | Lopeppeppy | My direct boss would, my grand boss would put me on the To Fire list. |
| 16:26.33 | Lunessa | Vilkku: And I see why Finnish is not a dominant world language. |
| 16:26.42 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/content/store/ico.png << sucks |
| 16:27.04 | Lunessa | foxlit: WTF? |
| 16:27.10 | Seerah | what's that? |
| 16:27.19 | Lunessa | That's his art for Opie. |
| 16:27.24 | Seerah | I know that :P |
| 16:27.32 | Seerah | but what's the icon from? :P |
| 16:28.50 | NightHawkTheSane | This response > * http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=8797911251&sid=1&pageNo=2#32 |
| 16:30.12 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: That's pretty funny. |
| 16:30.38 | Lunessa | And they quote Clifford Stoll, which makes them pretty cool in my book. |
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| 16:33.08 | jnwhiteh | my firefox keeps being weird |
| 16:33.32 | jnwhiteh | Look at the title: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/1eb2411ce11c86b568ca43b949867596.png |
| 16:33.36 | jnwhiteh | among the rest of things :: |
| 16:33.57 | Lunessa | LOL - "SOMEONE DEAR GOD HELP I dont know much about computers but i know enough to that i can understand stuff, but not all this writing and modifying and writing random crap and decendants and wtf. " http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6757867106&sid=1&pageNo=7#133 |
| 16:35.54 | Fisker- | 2 issues jnwhiteh |
| 16:35.55 | Fisker- | 1. mac |
| 16:35.56 | Fisker- | 2. firefox |
| 16:36.01 | jnwhiteh | not mac |
| 16:36.03 | jnwhiteh | is firefox. |
| 16:36.05 | jnwhiteh | lrn2troll |
| 16:36.06 | Fisker- | wait |
| 16:36.09 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 16:36.39 | Fisker- | 1. linux with a shitty theme |
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| 16:38.26 | Lopeppeppy | jn, my firefox did that when I came down with some malware about a month and a half ago.... |
| 16:38.34 | jnwhiteh | hehe neat |
| 16:39.08 | Lopeppeppy | Says you. :P |
| 16:39.13 | jnwhiteh | I INSTALLED WOWMATRIX AND GOT KEYLOGGED, TELL YOUR FRIENDS |
| 16:39.20 | jnwhiteh | AND I COULD NOT INSTALL LIGHTHEADED |
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| 16:39.32 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 16:39.32 | Lopeppeppy | OMG! |
| 16:40.25 | BWMerlin | jnwhiteh working as intended |
| 16:40.25 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 16:40.34 | Lopeppeppy | G'morning, Shirik. |
| 16:40.37 | Thunder_Child | so....4 TPB people get 1 year in prison and have to pay ~$4 million.....yet, "FridayÂ’s verdict did not include an order to shut down The Pirate Bay site." go figure |
| 16:40.53 | jnwhiteh | Thunder_Child: they're appealing as well, so we'll see |
| 16:41.01 | BWMerlin | lol yeah my friend spotted that as well |
| 16:41.13 | Thunder_Child | jnwhiteh, i figured |
| 16:41.20 | Thunder_Child | who doesnt nowadays |
| 16:42.32 | foxlit | grumble |
| 16:42.33 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/97160408 |
| 16:42.51 | foxlit | Ah, masks |
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| 16:55.25 | foxlit | Can anyone think of a recognizable ability/item icon that would survive being resized to about a quarter of its size? |
| 16:55.56 | Seerah | Ice Block?... |
| 16:56.21 | Seerah | would probably be just a blob of blue though... |
| 16:56.47 | foxlit | Scaling really, really sucks. |
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| 16:57.30 | mikma | ~hotfix |
| 16:57.31 | purl | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11113&sid=1 |
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| 16:58.35 | digmouse | Aspect of the Hawk? |
| 16:59.01 | aesir | foxlit: I would stick to two-tone geometric shapes e.g., the lucky charms set. |
| 17:02.27 | [Ammo] | jnwhiteh: that LDB icon was a tekkub addition :) |
| 17:02.33 | DWSR | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16474158165&sid=1 <- Anyone notice that they said that PCs can't attack PCs at the argent tournament twice? |
| 17:02.49 | DWSR | s/k PCs/k NPCs/ |
| 17:06.57 | Lopeppeppy | Huh? |
| 17:13.07 | ArrowmasterClass | oh god |
| 17:13.11 | Legorol | DWSR: yes i noticed too, i'm assuming it's just a bug in the notes :) |
| 17:13.52 | ArrowmasterClass | somebody cracked the admin password on the computers in this lab and is now running arp poisoning on the entire school network instead of just our limited subnet used by vmware |
| 17:14.13 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: rofl |
| 17:14.33 | DWSR | IF someone can break into it, it wasn't secure enouguh |
| 17:14.34 | DWSR | enough* |
| 17:14.39 | airtonix | insert comment about security |
| 17:15.18 | ArrowmasterClass | insert comment about schools claim of having the most secure college network in the US |
| 17:15.23 | zenzelezz | ArrowmasterClass: filthy rogues |
| 17:15.28 | airtonix | insert comment about comments |
| 17:15.47 | ArrowmasterClass | well it is a security class |
| 17:15.54 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 17:16.07 | airtonix | fail |
| 17:16.21 | DWSR | ArrowmasterClass: Well, is it an ethical hacking class or a class based on how to improve security? |
| 17:16.26 | DWSR | Because if it's the latter, see airtonix's comment. |
| 17:16.50 | Kissy | I'M ON A BOOOOOAAAAT~ |
| 17:17.15 | ArrowmasterClass | no its just a Security+ class |
| 17:17.35 | ArrowmasterClass | they wont let the teacher do the 'hacking defense' class he wants to |
| 17:17.35 | airtonix | Security- you mean |
| 17:20.09 | Lunessa | so someone is on your subnet, doing naughty things. Someone needs to take the lab admins out behind the woodshed and give 'em a spanking and have a discussion on "password strength" and "keeping a secret." |
| 17:20.48 | ArrowmasterClass | no he used a tool to get the password to the vista host machine |
| 17:20.50 | Lopeppeppy | And another lesson in "Isolating the problem and fixiting it" |
| 17:22.13 | ArrowmasterClass | yeah they isolated us by locking down the vista machines and making us use vmware for the labs with vmware connected to a different physical network (which is still connected to the rest of the school network, its just a different subnet) |
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| 17:23.52 | Fisker- | takes a good hard look at the motherfucking boat |
| 17:23.58 | ArrowmasterClass | now im routing all my browser traffic through my ssh tunnel to my server at home just incase |
| 17:28.34 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 17:29.31 | airtonix | lulz |
| 17:29.39 | airtonix | 'vista host machine' |
| 17:29.42 | airtonix | LOLOLOLOLOL |
| 17:30.11 | ArrowmasterClass | we do our labs in xp virtual machines |
| 17:30.17 | airtonix | more lol |
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| 17:30.29 | airtonix | rolfmao |
| 17:30.47 | airtonix | heard of the phrase " error is between keyboard nad chair"? |
| 17:30.51 | airtonix | and* |
| 17:31.03 | DWSR | problem exists between keyboard and chair, kthx |
| 17:31.04 | airtonix | click monkey syndrome |
| 17:31.54 | Lopeppeppy | PEBKAC virus. |
| 17:32.02 | Lopeppeppy | ID 10T error. |
| 17:33.28 | Shirik | welp |
| 17:33.38 | Shirik | I finally got the people at Verizon to trust me enough to activate my blackberry |
| 17:33.47 | Shirik | and now the guy on the phone is running into the same issues I had on the site |
| 17:33.56 | Shirik | Apparently the phone they sent me doesn't exist |
| 17:34.12 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. |
| 17:36.20 | Thunder_Child | but the bill they send you will |
| 17:36.31 | Lopeppeppy | That will exist! :) |
| 17:36.59 | NeoTron | Shirik: just wiat for the timelines to synchronize so your phone comes into existance |
| 17:37.53 | jnwhiteh | umm |
| 17:37.58 | jnwhiteh | forgive me for being stupid |
| 17:38.13 | jnwhiteh | What is Ann'kahet: The Old Kingdom |
| 17:38.19 | jnwhiteh | Drak'Tharon Keep |
| 17:38.19 | Shirik | instance in DB |
| 17:38.24 | Wobin | Instance |
| 17:38.24 | jnwhiteh | and Violate Hold |
| 17:38.30 | Wobin | Violet Hold |
| 17:38.31 | jnwhiteh | yeah i know they're instances |
| 17:38.33 | jnwhiteh | but where are they? |
| 17:38.39 | Wobin | VH is in Dalaran |
| 17:38.41 | jnwhiteh | and which should I say I want to run? |
| 17:38.51 | DWSR | all |
| 17:38.52 | Wobin | DTK is in Grizzly Hills |
| 17:38.57 | Wobin | What level are you? |
| 17:39.04 | jnwhiteh | 73 resto druid |
| 17:39.11 | jnwhiteh | i can't get to the nexus |
| 17:39.13 | Wobin | You'll probably want AK |
| 17:39.15 | jnwhiteh | and my flight paths are limited |
| 17:39.22 | jnwhiteh | i'm still in HF |
| 17:39.23 | Wobin | You can be summoned to the instances |
| 17:39.23 | Shirik | ok |
| 17:39.24 | Shirik | yay |
| 17:39.31 | Shirik | I finally have my blackberry working.... again |
| 17:39.34 | Wobin | with the summoning stones |
| 17:39.36 | jnwhiteh | will I be able to get to these places? |
| 17:39.38 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 17:39.40 | Wobin | sure |
| 17:39.47 | Wobin | And since you're a healer, they won't complain =) |
| 17:39.49 | Shirik | I was impressed, they were able to invent my phone fairly quickly |
| 17:40.16 | Wobin | Especially with Nexus, people won't expect you to have the FP if you start in HF |
| 17:40.54 | Wobin | As a healer, you can probably do Nexus and AK |
| 17:40.59 | jnwhiteh | there's like no people on mys erver |
| 17:41.01 | Wobin | at that level |
| 17:41.03 | jnwhiteh | so that'll be my limitation |
| 17:41.40 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I'm about to downgrade from my crackberry, I don't use the features enough to justify the expense. :( |
| 17:41.49 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:41.55 | Shirik | I use it way too much, very worth it tbh |
| 17:42.02 | Shirik | Can I not hook it up to my computer without a battery? |
| 17:42.05 | Shirik | do you know |
| 17:42.17 | Lopeppeppy | You certainly should be able to, Shirik. |
| 17:42.22 | jnwhiteh | nokia e71 > blackberry :P |
| 17:42.24 | Lopeppeppy | Mine charges from my USB port here at work. |
| 17:42.32 | Shirik | all I get is a screen with a battery and a line through it |
| 17:43.04 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. Might mean it wants a battery. Sorry. |
| 17:43.30 | Shirik | bleh |
| 17:43.32 | Shirik | I only have one battery |
| 17:43.38 | Shirik | this could take a while |
| 17:43.47 | Lopeppeppy | Where is the battery? |
| 17:43.55 | Shirik | well the replacement they sent me didn't come with one |
| 17:43.59 | Shirik | they expect me to use my old battery |
| 17:44.04 | Lopeppeppy | And you sent out your old one? |
| 17:44.08 | Shirik | nono |
| 17:44.11 | Shirik | I'm trying to transfer data though |
| 17:44.18 | Lopeppeppy | *nod* |
| 17:44.32 | Shirik | so that means wait for the old one to boot up, transfer, switch battery, wait 5 minutes, finish transfer |
| 17:44.35 | Shirik | I'm impatient :P |
| 17:45.33 | Lopeppeppy | Grow some patience crystals in the back yard, boyo. |
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| 17:59.04 | Shirik | Adys: My pin changed btw :P |
| 17:59.09 | AckisWork | Shirik: grats!!!! :P |
| 17:59.15 | Adys | pong |
| 17:59.19 | Shirik | there was no ping! |
| 17:59.19 | Shirik | wtf |
| 17:59.21 | Lopeppeppy | ping |
| 17:59.22 | AckisWork | Shirik: Adys or ackis? :P |
| 17:59.23 | Adys | there was |
| 17:59.24 | Adys | yesterday |
| 17:59.27 | Shirik | oh |
| 17:59.36 | Fisker- | slaps AckisWork around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:59.45 | Shirik | AckisWork: I don't know >< Which one of you has a blackberry |
| 17:59.48 | Shirik | rofl |
| 17:59.54 | Adys | ackis does |
| 17:59.57 | Shirik | sorry :( |
| 17:59.58 | Adys | why did you ping me yday? |
| 18:00.01 | jnwhiteh | 300 herbalism |
| 18:00.03 | Shirik | Because I thought you were him |
| 18:00.03 | jnwhiteh | that's outland, right? |
| 18:00.17 | AckisWork | Shirik: re-pim me, or PM me your new pim |
| 18:00.21 | AckisWork | I'm so confused |
| 18:00.31 | zenzelezz | jnwhiteh: what do you mean, go Outland when you have 300? |
| 18:00.36 | AckisWork | lua> return "Ackis" == "Adys" |
| 18:00.36 | lua_bot | AckisWork: false |
| 18:00.39 | jnwhiteh | no i mean i have 300 |
| 18:00.41 | AckisWork | mmhmm |
| 18:00.42 | jnwhiteh | where do i need to go to skill up |
| 18:00.43 | jnwhiteh | there? |
| 18:00.45 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, I think so, jnwhiteh. |
| 18:01.14 | zenzelezz | I must have phrased myself badly, because you just said exactly what I asked :-p |
| 18:01.14 | Shirik | AckisWork: I don't have your old message I think |
| 18:01.35 | AckisWork | kk just PM me your new pin and I'll fire you ffo ne |
| 18:02.50 | jnwhiteh | wow all of this time |
| 18:02.57 | jnwhiteh | i've been using Entangling Roots, rank 1 |
| 18:03.17 | AckisWork | ~fail jnwhiteh |
| 18:03.18 | purl | jnwhiteh: FAIL! |
| 18:03.39 | Lopeppeppy | ... silly bear. |
| 18:03.39 | jnwhiteh | any dailies in GH i should know about? |
| 18:03.58 | ArrowmasterClass | GH is just pvp dailies |
| 18:04.08 | Adys | and a zombie daily |
| 18:04.09 | Adys | also |
| 18:04.13 | ArrowmasterClass | zombie? |
| 18:04.23 | AckisWork | GH? |
| 18:04.27 | Adys | the drunk guy who wants to give you dark wet grog that smells like fish |
| 18:04.29 | ArrowmasterClass | grizzly hills |
| 18:04.37 | Adys | jnwhiteh: for the first time I got another specthan frost on my mage |
| 18:04.37 | jnwhiteh | ArrowmasterClass: ooh, PVP dailies? |
| 18:04.38 | ArrowmasterClass | is that alliance only? |
| 18:04.44 | Adys | no, horde and alliance |
| 18:05.05 | Adys | jnwhiteh: i was wondering why i couldnt hit 3k dps as frostfire, turns out i got all rank 1 spells.. pyroblast, living bomb, etc |
| 18:05.08 | Adys | NEVER been fire before |
| 18:05.09 | Adys | >< |
| 18:05.14 | jnwhiteh | Adys: hahahaha |
| 18:05.19 | Adys | anyway gotta go, laters |
| 18:05.20 | AckisWork | wow so much fail today |
| 18:05.28 | ArrowmasterClass | jnwhiteh: you get venture coins and goblin rep |
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| 18:05.38 | jnwhiteh | hey, rep and XP is fine by me |
| 18:05.58 | AckisWork | you really get goblin rep? |
| 18:06.00 | Adys | Arrowmaster: goblin rep? |
| 18:06.02 | ArrowmasterClass | yes |
| 18:06.08 | *** join/#wowuidev KarlKFI (n=chatzill@adcom137.adcom.uci.edu) |
| 18:06.09 | Adys | why didnt anyone say so earlier |
| 18:06.12 | AckisWork | does it affect bloodsail rep? |
| 18:06.19 | ArrowmasterClass | not sure if you still get rep after getting to revered |
| 18:06.26 | ArrowmasterClass | but no it doesnt lower bloodsail |
| 18:06.26 | Adys | afk laters |
| 18:06.32 | AckisWork | wow sweet |
| 18:06.51 | ArrowmasterClass | just go down to venture bay and kill goblins |
| 18:07.17 | Adys | those suck |
| 18:07.20 | Adys | 3 rep / kill |
| 18:07.23 | Adys | was talking about the quests |
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| 18:09.29 | Thunder_Child | does it not say when someone leaves/joins raid anymore? |
| 18:09.33 | AckisWork | so I'm new to this twitter stuff |
| 18:09.43 | NeoTron | Adys: our elemental shaman couldn't figure out why his dps sucked after specing back from healing |
| 18:09.48 | NeoTron | turns out he was using his healing set |
| 18:09.49 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Correct |
| 18:09.55 | NeoTron | took two boss wipes to figure that out |
| 18:10.03 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, really? fuck. i liked that |
| 18:10.05 | NeoTron | and he was quite upset about it too. was amusing. :) |
| 18:10.19 | Shirik | It should be possible to code an addon to do it |
| 18:10.27 | NeoTron | I can see the need for an addon that swaps item sets when you swap profile |
| 18:10.42 | Thunder_Child | NeoTron, it was supposed to be built in with it |
| 18:10.45 | Shirik | Probably in like 50 lines or so |
| 18:11.00 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 18:11.03 | jnwhiteh | need to kill horde |
| 18:11.06 | jnwhiteh | P |
| 18:11.19 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, you cant possibly be talking to me |
| 18:11.32 | Shirik | I didn't say you have to do it! |
| 18:11.35 | Shirik | I just said it could be done |
| 18:13.45 | Lunessa | Meh, I just need Outfitter to support the "spec" macro option. |
| 18:15.05 | Thunder_Child | <has a Pillar of Ferocity> is a fail name >.< |
| 18:15.55 | Lunessa | So is <It Hurts When I PvP> but people still make it. |
| 18:16.39 | jnwhiteh | Do SSO dailies give XP? |
| 18:16.48 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:16.51 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 18:16.52 | jnwhiteh | intriguing |
| 18:16.53 | Shirik | (and thus, little gold) |
| 18:17.08 | mikma | that's how people cheated when WOTLK hit stores |
| 18:17.17 | mikma | they completed questlog full of dailies and quests |
| 18:17.21 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 18:17.28 | mikma | and returned them when they logged in = 50% level or so |
| 18:19.16 | jnwhiteh | goes to see how much i can make off em |
| 18:19.19 | Thunder_Child | how is that cheating? |
| 18:19.21 | jnwhiteh | XP-wise |
| 18:20.25 | Lopeppeppy | Bliz limited how much of that people could do, so while they got a boost, it's not like as huge a boost as they could have potentially gotten. |
| 18:20.48 | mikma | thunder_child: it's not, i just called it cheating cause no-one told me :D |
| 18:21.00 | Fisker- | Common sense is commoooooooooon |
| 18:21.52 | mikma | oh wow |
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| 18:22.00 | Fisker- | I just got ahead by playing before the game was out |
| 18:22.00 | mikma | HP statusbars are showing ELITE-logos! |
| 18:22.04 | Fisker- | blizzard incompetence ftw |
| 18:22.04 | mikma | (press v) |
| 18:23.15 | zenzelezz | mikma: was in the patch notes |
| 18:24.32 | Dashkal | I'd like to know why the new projected textures option defaults to off and not whatever it was (based on the spell details slider) |
| 18:24.46 | Fisker- | btw Lunessa |
| 18:25.04 | Fisker- | then you'll like "<Sapped Girls can't x>" |
| 18:25.31 | Lunessa | Dashkal: Who knows? Maybe because there was no previous setting to base it on, or because they thought it would be a performance issue. |
| 18:26.14 | Dashkal | The spell details slider was the previous setting. Just annoying that it defaults to off since so many bosses 'require' for it to be on. |
| 18:26.16 | Lunessa | Fisker-: No. I don't. /me slaps Fisker- with a large, several days dead and very stinky trout. |
| 18:26.31 | Fisker- | :/ |
| 18:27.14 | Lunessa | Dashkal: *nod* All I'm saying, is ... someone made the choice, and those were, in my mind, possible reasons. But I don't really know. |
| 18:27.22 | ArrowmasterClass | Thawte is owned by VeriSign right? |
| 18:27.37 | Dashkal | Lunessa: fair enough. I didn't actually expect a reason for it :p |
| 18:27.47 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 18:27.56 | Dashkal | My best bet is it was much easier to just default one way or another than to try to read the old setting |
| 18:34.19 | *** join/#wowuidev Yiatz (n=preston4@pool-71-126-185-183.washdc.east.verizon.net) |
| 18:35.25 | Yiatz | anyone know of an easy way to make a 1 action button addon? |
| 18:36.09 | Shirik | Yiatz: I honestly wouldn't use an action button to do that |
| 18:36.24 | Yiatz | im open to suggestions of better ways then |
| 18:36.34 | Shirik | secure button |
| 18:37.07 | Yiatz | what is the xml tag for a secure button? |
| 18:37.33 | jnwhiteh | <Button> |
| 18:37.46 | jnwhiteh | you inherit the template of the specific button you want |
| 18:38.28 | Yiatz | i see. thats why all the <button>s i saw were different. so i need a <button inherit="secure button">? |
| 18:38.40 | Shirik | SecureButtonTemplate iirc |
| 18:38.52 | foxlit | ydnrc |
| 18:38.54 | ArrowmasterClass | ui forums, theres a sticky with a link to a pdf |
| 18:39.08 | Shirik | foxlit :( |
| 18:39.32 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/SecureTemplates |
| 18:39.40 | foxlit | though that could really, really use some love. |
| 18:39.45 | Shirik | damn it |
| 18:39.49 | Shirik | SecureActionButtonTemplate |
| 18:39.49 | ArrowmasterClass | the pdf is specificly for 3.0 |
| 18:39.51 | Shirik | I was close |
| 18:40.17 | foxlit | ArrowmasterClass: the pdf is also not about action buttons. |
| 18:40.26 | ArrowmasterClass | its about secure frames |
| 18:40.36 | foxlit | secure handlers, more specifically |
| 18:40.43 | ArrowmasterClass | meh |
| 18:43.35 | Lunessa | "I for one think this guy has hit it right on the head! I find myself terribly envious of Kaelten's arrangement, where he doesn't have to pay for his website, and every time some poor sap gets sucked into downloading a mod from his page, a steak wrapped in a $50 bill shoots out of his printer. Must be nice to be laughing at us all in these forums, while high-class escorts light your cigars and feed you caviar. " lol |
| 18:44.13 | Lunessa | I want a printer that can shoot out steak wrapped in $50 bills. |
| 18:44.30 | kd3 | this ^ |
| 18:44.30 | Lopeppeppy | I want one that can do either, and I'd be happy |
| 18:45.38 | Dashkal | May I have a model that does bacon? |
| 18:46.21 | Shirik | amg email spam |
| 18:50.08 | Zhinjio | g'morning, folks. |
| 18:50.09 | AckisWork | fyi my geforce 8800 ultra got upgraded to a gtx 260 |
| 18:50.18 | Zhinjio | Heya Shirik |
| 18:50.47 | Lunessa | Step 1. Connect printer to internet-connected printer. 2. Position face near printer and open mouth. 3. Recieve bacon. |
| 18:51.08 | Zhinjio | 4. Enjoy Bacon |
| 18:51.09 | Lunessa | Step 1 should "internet-connected computer" |
| 18:51.11 | Zhinjio | mmmmm, bacon |
| 18:51.12 | *** join/#wowuidev Cidan (n=feh@conspiracy/developer/Cidan) |
| 18:51.39 | Cidan | Shirik: ping, lol |
| 18:51.39 | Dashkal | Been a long time out of the rep game. Does Argent Dawn rep still work the same (can only kill strat mobs to revered)? |
| 18:51.53 | Shirik | Cidan: pong |
| 18:52.02 | Cidan | 20 days ago, you sent me botmail |
| 18:52.05 | Cidan | asked me to ping you |
| 18:52.06 | Cidan | so. |
| 18:52.08 | Cidan | here I am? |
| 18:52.08 | Shirik | um |
| 18:52.09 | Cidan | lol |
| 18:52.16 | Shirik | how the hell am I supposed to know 20 days ago |
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| 18:52.26 | Cidan | I don't know! Why didn't you text me on my cell? xD |
| 18:52.28 | Zhinjio | Dashkal: I think they upped *all* the Argent Dawn rep rewards, I don't remember to what extent though |
| 18:52.35 | Shirik | I don't know! |
| 18:52.49 | Lunessa | Dashkal: For now, yes. During the "Scourge invasions" you can kill the invasion mobs too. You get more rep from quests and scourge stones though. |
| 18:53.01 | Dashkal | I know they removed the falloff for being too high a level, just curious if I need to hoard the scourgestones for revered |
| 18:53.33 | Lunessa | You get rep up to Revered from low-level mobs, and rep all the way to Exalted for bosses. |
| 18:53.46 | Dashkal | I just did the single intro quest and got my comission. Grinding in strat as long as that's useful to me. Then I'll quest and turn them in for revered to exalted |
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| 18:55.44 | AckisWork | someone give me some code to get the NPC ID from a mob you're targetting |
| 18:55.49 | Dashkal | I am starting to wish I was a blood tank for those strat runs, though :S. That anti-regen debuff sucks |
| 18:56.08 | Daede | Hi! I just wanted to say that since the last time I was in this channel and treated like garbage by Tekkub, I have since convinced over FOUR HUNDRED people to start using wowmatrix. You guys should *really* get rid of tekkub. My campaign continues |
| 18:56.11 | Lunessa | If you do all the AD quests, and the Caulron quests, you can get the rep pretty fast. |
| 18:56.26 | Daede | ~botsnack |
| 18:56.26 | purl | :), Daede |
| 18:56.35 | Dashkal | ~wowmatrix |
| 18:56.35 | purl | ACTION stabs wowmatrix with an icicle made from the frozen tears of lazy users |
| 18:56.49 | Lunessa | Daede: Nice knowing you. Enjoy the upcoming ridicule. |
| 18:56.54 | Daede | I don't use it because I'm lazy. I use it because tekkub is a prick |
| 18:56.57 | *** part/#wowuidev Daede (n=jay@d60-65-13-226.col.wideopenwest.com) |
| 18:57.07 | AckisWork | good thing it doesn't work |
| 18:57.20 | Lopeppeppy | What in the seven shades of hell does Tekkub have to do with it? *boggle* |
| 18:57.28 | Shirik | I'm not sure if I should stop him from coming back or let him come back for the entertainment |
| 18:57.29 | AckisWork | he's a prick, we can't disagree there |
| 18:57.35 | ArrowmasterClass | AckisWork: /run print(tonumber(string.sub(UnitGUID("target"),-12,-7),16)) |
| 18:58.10 | Shirik | I tried to invite him back into the channel |
| 18:58.20 | Shirik | (14:57:22)  -› No such nick/channel (Daede) |
| 18:58.22 | Shirik | :( |
| 18:58.59 | Lopeppeppy | He left on his own, leave him be. |
| 18:59.22 | Shirik | we need more dramas :( |
| 18:59.36 | theorbtwo | ...like we need another hole in our heads. |
| 18:59.43 | Lopeppeppy | ^ |
| 18:59.45 | AckisWork | ArrowmasterClass: thanks |
| 18:59.50 | Lopeppeppy | And ^^ for empahsis. |
| 18:59.57 | Shirik | ^_^ |
| 18:59.58 | Lopeppeppy | I'm soooo tired of drama, I've nearly hung up my dino boots twice already. |
| 18:59.59 | Lunessa | slaps Shirik with a clue-by-four |
| 19:00.21 | Shirik | but didn't you say you wear those cute socks with toes in them? |
| 19:00.24 | Shirik | or was that someone else |
| 19:00.36 | ArrowmasterClass | AckisWork: add an 'or ""' in there if you dont want to get an error when theres no target |
| 19:02.29 | Lopeppeppy | ... I do not wear socks. |
| 19:03.01 | AckisWork | ArrowmasterClass: was doing a unitexists check first |
| 19:03.34 | Shirik | oh nm then Lopeppeppy :/ |
| 19:04.54 | Lunessa | The peppy-dino is a lady-o-saur, and wears pretty stocking and nice boots or shoes to show off her pedicure. |
| 19:07.52 | DWSR | anyone know if DrDamage is going to get updated (or an alternative)? |
| 19:08.31 | Zhinjio | RatingBuster? |
| 19:08.38 | DWSR | No. |
| 19:08.47 | DWSR | RatingBuster doesn't do the same thing |
| 19:08.52 | DWSR | RB adds stuff to my tooltips. |
| 19:08.55 | DWSR | for gear* |
| 19:09.11 | Zhinjio | which function of DrDamage are you looking for? |
| 19:09.18 | Zhinjio | I guess I haven't used it in a long time |
| 19:09.27 | DWSR | Calcs average spell damage |
| 19:09.45 | DWSR | And other stuff like listing multipliers for spell power on spells and other fun stuff. |
| 19:09.56 | Zhinjio | yeah, sorry... not sure. |
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| 19:10.11 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
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| 19:17.29 | Kissy | remembers to never buy a Nokia phone in the future. |
| 19:17.41 | Shirik | :( why |
| 19:17.48 | Kissy | http://mobilitics.blogspot.com/2009/03/why-nokia-wants-my-email-password.html |
| 19:18.56 | Shirik | Uh |
| 19:19.25 | Shirik | is that guy a moron? |
| 19:19.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Kirov (n=Kirov@173.10.85.26) |
| 19:20.03 | Zhinjio | Fay's Postulate: Everyone is a moron until proven otherwise. |
| 19:20.05 | Kissy | No, they really do that. |
| 19:20.13 | Shirik | I agree that they do that |
| 19:20.23 | Shirik | I suggest that you look at the port and protocol |
| 19:20.35 | Shirik | So unless it's not negotiating keys for some reason, I don't see a problem here |
| 19:21.22 | Kissy | Yes, I see secure, but sending user name and password some where it does not belong is not a good thing. Sending an email address is all that should be needed to get automatic configuration settings for POP/IMAP. |
| 19:21.33 | Shirik | I disagree |
| 19:21.54 | Shirik | For example, the reason Blackberries ask for password is because the communication with the email server is done at RIM, not by the Blackberry |
| 19:22.05 | Shirik | This allows a significant drop in wireless bandwidth requirements |
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| 19:22.23 | Kissy | That is a different scenario. The phones listed there all pull the information directly to the phone. |
| 19:22.59 | Kissy | I also have a good bit more trust in RIM/Blackberry for the security features they offer. |
| 19:23.19 | Shirik | I just wish there were a good SSH client for my blackberry |
| 19:24.24 | Esamynn | I'd love to find one for my palm |
| 19:24.47 | Kissy | I have one for my iPhone. >.> |
| 19:24.59 | Kissy | is getting raped in monthly fees. :O |
| 19:25.07 | Shirik | Ones exist |
| 19:25.10 | Shirik | but they're pretty bad for storm |
| 19:25.10 | Esamynn | oh hey, there's one, I swear the last time I search I couldn't find one, hmm, I bet this is for the wrong os version |
| 19:25.14 | Shirik | they were designed for other blackberries |
| 19:25.18 | Shirik | ones with a keyboard |
| 19:25.23 | Lopeppeppy | Kissy, I think I said before, that word is not funn for casual use. Could you try to be a bit more considerate? |
| 19:25.27 | Lopeppeppy | *fun |
| 19:26.27 | Kissy | I have no idea why people have issues with that. O.o o.O It is fairly common and used in a general context to convey an unfavorable situation that one may not really wish to be in. |
| 19:26.45 | Esamynn | Shirik: ahh, see my phone has a full keyboard =D |
| 19:26.59 | Shirik | Kissy: There are perfectly valid reasons |
| 19:27.02 | Shirik | which I won't go into right now |
| 19:27.12 | Thunder_Child | i would like to know why i can not see /roll's in chat |
| 19:27.27 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Sounds like one of your addons is blocking system messages |
| 19:28.02 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, wouldnt surprise me however now isnt quite the time i can go figure it out |
| 19:28.05 | Thunder_Child | :( |
| 19:28.22 | Shirik | Also, apparently I'm a VIP customer at Verizon |
| 19:28.24 | Shirik | how the heck did that happen |
| 19:28.36 | nicoli_s | lots o talking? |
| 19:28.49 | ScytheBlade1 | You gave them lots of money |
| 19:28.53 | Shirik | probably |
| 19:29.08 | Kissy | Shirik, some people need to loosen up. :P Also, I just got Ricked Rolled by my iTunes. |
| 19:29.08 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet, Shirik. |
| 19:29.23 | Lopeppeppy | You know what? I think it's time to go home early. |
| 19:29.25 | *** part/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@141.222.29.18) |
| 19:29.26 | Shirik | Kissy: No, you need to be more aware of others |
| 19:30.22 | Kissy | I am quite aware of those around me. :) |
| 19:30.35 | foxlit | But do you see the pitchforks? |
| 19:31.00 | foxlit | Shirik, for example, has a tar pit in his villain lair |
| 19:31.05 | Kissy | Pitch forks loaded into harpoon launchers? That would be awesome. |
| 19:31.49 | Fisker- | yeah Shirik |
| 19:32.00 | Fisker- | you gave them 0.0062 dollars instead of cents |
| 19:32.07 | Shirik | >< |
| 19:32.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 19:33.29 | Lunessa | sighs. |
| 19:35.02 | Thunder_Child | FFS, it's spam me not thats blocking EVERYTHING! |
| 19:35.24 | Shirik | The whole chat frame filtering system has changed |
| 19:35.27 | Shirik | so that may be why |
| 19:36.24 | Kissy | Yeah, some AddOns are preventing people from seeing their out going whispers, so the keep resending it thinking it did not go. |
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| 19:37.20 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v alestane] by ChanServ |
| 19:42.21 | Esamynn | hawt, I has ssh on my phone! =D |
| 19:44.01 | Cidan | Esamynn: what phone? |
| 19:44.12 | Esamynn | Palm Treo 700p |
| 19:44.18 | airtonix | yawn, come back when you got xmdcp as a well |
| 19:44.22 | Cidan | neat |
| 19:44.48 | Cidan | you mean xdmcp? |
| 19:44.56 | airtonix | yes |
| 19:45.39 | Cidan | and what phone do you use? |
| 19:46.17 | Lunessa | I can has better smart phone? |
| 19:47.00 | Shirik | Does anyone know of a good way to decompile or disassemble or whatever Hypercard stacks? |
| 19:47.31 | Cidan | wow... |
| 19:47.32 | Cidan | like |
| 19:47.37 | Cidan | Apple Hypercard? |
| 19:47.42 | Shirik | Is it by apple? |
| 19:47.43 | ScytheBlade1 | like, wowmatrix |
| 19:47.48 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 wins really |
| 19:48.34 | Kissy | I thought Hypercards were text files. Its language was an early form of AppleScript. |
| 19:48.43 | Shirik | It doesn't look like a text file to me |
| 19:48.53 | Shirik | the only thing I could read is the magic bytes at the beginning |
| 19:49.09 | alestane | The rest of it is probably in the resource fork. |
| 19:49.30 | Shirik | it's one file |
| 19:49.39 | alestane | Resource fork == same file. |
| 19:49.46 | Shirik | er |
| 19:49.54 | alestane | One of the crazier mechanisms Apple came up with. |
| 19:49.56 | mikma | fork juu! |
| 19:50.10 | Shirik | is it actually /part/ of the file? |
| 19:50.28 | Shirik | Because this is transmitted over the internet |
| 19:50.38 | DWSR | In Soviet Russia, resources forks you! |
| 19:50.47 | Shirik | And considering that Windows doesn't support resource forks... |
| 19:50.48 | DWSR | s/ks/k/ |
| 19:50.54 | alestane | Files on Apple file systems actually consist of two files, either of which may be empty, which are always copied together. |
| 19:51.17 | DWSR | Does OSX support ext3/4? |
| 19:51.22 | alestane | Did it come in a .sit or .dmg archive, or other format that preserves Apple file structure? |
| 19:51.25 | Shirik | no |
| 19:51.33 | alestane | DWSR: ext3, yes, definitely. |
| 19:51.38 | alestane | Does it work? |
| 19:51.42 | Shirik | it has to work |
| 19:51.45 | Shirik | it's used by WM |
| 19:51.46 | DWSR | alestane: Can it boot from ext3? |
| 19:51.51 | Cidan | OH |
| 19:51.52 | alestane | DWSR: I think so. |
| 19:51.56 | Cidan | Has anyone used ext4? |
| 19:52.02 | DWSR | Cidan: Nope. |
| 19:52.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm using it now |
| 19:52.09 | Cidan | Any good? |
| 19:52.16 | Cidan | rather, worth for me to switch to it? |
| 19:52.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Depends on your distro, I'd say |
| 19:52.30 | Kissy | This might help you, Shirik. http://economy-x-talk.com/differsifier.html |
| 19:52.37 | Cidan | why do you say that? |
| 19:52.38 | DWSR | ScytheBlade1: Why? Kernel support is all you need. |
| 19:52.41 | Cidan | Yeah |
| 19:52.52 | Shirik | oh that's hot Kissy |
| 19:53.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Because if you're on ext3, your distro may upgrade you to ext4 *for you* |
| 19:53.20 | DWSR | I doubt that strongly. |
| 19:53.20 | ScytheBlade1 | And no, you need more than kernel support |
| 19:53.21 | Cidan | I... don't think so, Tim. |
| 19:53.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't |
| 19:53.29 | ScytheBlade1 | points at Fedora 11 |
| 19:53.33 | DWSR | O_O |
| 19:53.41 | DWSR | They actually force upgrade you to ext4? |
| 19:53.42 | Cidan | You serious? |
| 19:53.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Force? No |
| 19:53.48 | Kissy | I thought the Hypercard thing was a joke referring to WoWMatrix using it as an analogy. |
| 19:53.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Give you a push button while upgrading? yes |
| 19:54.04 | DWSR | Huh. |
| 19:54.11 | Shirik | no Kissy, WM really uses Hypercard |
| 19:54.15 | DWSR | Kissy: Nope. |
| 19:54.27 | Kissy | mind boggles. |
| 19:54.27 | Kissy | GAH. |
| 19:54.27 | DWSR | ScytheBlade1: That's....err......dangerous. |
| 19:54.35 | ScytheBlade1 | if you really think so, feel free to bring it up with them |
| 19:54.44 | ScytheBlade1 | (and go read how to do it, it really isn't that bad at all) |
| 19:54.47 | Kissy | goes to hack apart WoWMatrix then! |
| 19:54.53 | DWSR | I just don't use Fedora. Advantage: Linux |
| 19:55.53 | Kissy | Ah, uses Revolution stacks. |
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| 19:57.04 | DWSR | ScytheBlade1: Is there a way to upgrade ext3 to 4? |
| 19:57.11 | DWSR | without having to format and rewrite? |
| 19:57.14 | ScytheBlade1 | yes. |
| 19:57.22 | DWSR | Ah, interesting. This I didn't know |
| 19:57.40 | DWSR | although, I suppose it makes sense. Does it make it a true ext4 partition with all of the new features? |
| 19:57.46 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 19:57.57 | DWSR | swish |
| 19:58.18 | DWSR | Anyone know of an addon that replaces AlphaMap? |
| 19:58.26 | DWSR | Or provides the same features. |
| 19:58.39 | DWSR | (and isn't Cartographer). |
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| 20:00.17 | kneeki | I'd like to know why all my map mining/gathering nodes are so ittybitty on my minimap |
| 20:00.24 | kneeki | I dont even use a minimap addon =\ |
| 20:00.40 | talto1 | hey what addons you recommend for clean install of world of warcraft? |
| 20:00.48 | talto1 | im newbie |
| 20:00.59 | DWSR | well... |
| 20:00.59 | Dewin | kneeki: Using gatherer? |
| 20:01.01 | ScytheBlade1 | none, until you get how to work the stock interface |
| 20:01.06 | kneeki | Dewin: nope |
| 20:01.13 | Dewin | oh, the dots for tracking |
| 20:01.18 | DWSR | talto1: What ScytheBlade1 said. |
| 20:01.20 | kneeki | Aye |
| 20:01.23 | kneeki | they are smooshy |
| 20:01.26 | Dewin | Interesting. Mine are unchanged. |
| 20:01.33 | Dewin | and I use ricominimap fwiw |
| 20:01.44 | Dewin | jury's still out on whether I like the new player icons or not |
| 20:01.47 | talto1 | what about the map |
| 20:01.51 | talto1 | and all the things |
| 20:01.54 | DWSR | Dewin: Yeah, I know. |
| 20:02.04 | talto1 | where i can find the spots |
| 20:02.12 | DWSR | talto1: Until you know what features you like/dislike about the stock iface, don't bother installing addons |
| 20:02.37 | Kissy | Shirik, I am looking at WoWMatrix in a hex editor and it is highly amusing. |
| 20:03.49 | talto1 | im level 20 aprox i just no time played |
| 20:03.49 | talto1 | last game was in 07' |
| 20:03.50 | talto1 | so i had addons and stuff i just forgot all the names |
| 20:04.14 | Kraftman | it all depends on what you want to change |
| 20:05.05 | Dashkal | There are no required addons (especially at your level). You can play with the stock interface just fine. Once you know what about it you want changed, then go hunting |
| 20:06.03 | talto1 | ok and where i can get the cords of the missions? |
| 20:07.23 | DWSR | QuestHelper, Lightheaded + TomTom |
| 20:07.46 | DWSR | I don't like Carbonite, since their code for sensing the direction you're facing fails. |
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| 20:07.53 | Lunessa | What is love? Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more. |
| 20:08.10 | Kraftman | pokes Wimpsy`, hey! |
| 20:08.22 | Wimpsy` | pokes Kraftman, hey! |
| 20:09.10 | DWSR | DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN |
| 20:09.19 | DWSR | head bangs, Night at the Roxbury style. |
| 20:10.41 | Lunessa | DWSR++ |
| 20:13.41 | kneeki | DWSR: I think what Carbonite did was great. But it needs to be much less invasive. I loved carbonite after I spent like 30-40 minutes configuring it, guessing what each option did |
| 20:13.55 | kneeki | Carbonite taking over the 'social' windows drove me insane |
| 20:14.14 | DWSR | kneeki: Don't get me wrong, some of it is awesome. |
| 20:14.22 | kneeki | mhmm |
| 20:14.28 | DWSR | kneeki: Not being able to tell which direction you're facing when standing still is FAIL. |
| 20:14.34 | DWSR | Esp. since it takes over your f***ing minimap. |
| 20:14.41 | kneeki | ^^^^ |
| 20:14.50 | kneeki | the minimap mutilating also drove me up the wall |
| 20:15.04 | kneeki | esp. with them combined, you could barley make ANYTHING out |
| 20:15.17 | kneeki | good luck gathering nodes =\ |
| 20:16.04 | DWSR | The social pane thing needs to stop |
| 20:16.13 | DWSR | And there's no reason to take over the minimap and display your own. |
| 20:16.34 | kneeki | There is actually no tooltips or anything on any of its options explaining it |
| 20:16.35 | DWSR | Does anyone here run Cartographer 2 and 3 side by side? |
| 20:16.50 | Wimpsy` | Mapster <3 |
| 20:18.08 | DWSR | nah |
| 20:18.15 | DWSR | I want something like Alphamap, but not as buggy. |
| 20:18.48 | Kissy | Ooooo~ |
| 20:18.51 | DWSR | I heart Cartographer 3, but it doesn't replace Alphamap. |
| 20:18.52 | Kissy | I thought of a good idea. |
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| 20:19.22 | Kissy | Shirik, is the WoWMatrix.dat file placed in AddOn folders the tiny executable it downloads for each AddOn? |
| 20:19.30 | Shirik | I doubt it |
| 20:19.35 | Shirik | but I wouldn't know |
| 20:19.43 | DWSR | no, .dat isn't an executable type. |
| 20:19.51 | DWSR | It would need to be a .exe (for windows at least). |
| 20:20.14 | Kissy | It can be executable and renamed .dat. For Linux and OS X, it does not matter. |
| 20:20.29 | DWSR | For Windows it does, and I doubt that WM had different code for each of those. |
| 20:20.52 | Kissy | I will have to investigate when I get back. It would great to make a little program that distributed with an AddOn that automatically deleted WoWMatrix. :D |
| 20:21.21 | nicoli_s | well none of the addon sites will distribute addons with exes in it |
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| 20:21.48 | DWSR | nicoli_s: uhuh, but WM does. |
| 20:21.54 | Kissy | I realize the logistics issue behind it. |
| 20:22.09 | DWSR | Kissy: What logistics issue? |
| 20:22.12 | DWSR | Just ownsauce it. |
| 20:22.35 | Kissy | That getting a popular AddOn to include it and not get pulled from WoWInterface or Curse. |
| 20:22.42 | DWSR | Oh, don't do that. |
| 20:22.51 | DWSR | Just make an addon that *looks* super awesome, and give it to WM. |
| 20:22.54 | DWSR | Everyone who installs it dies. |
| 20:23.05 | DWSR | And there you go, instantly give WM a bad rap for being a virus. :D |
| 20:23.40 | Kissy | Writes out 0.0.0.0 wowmatrix.com into the lmhosts file. <.< >.> |
| 20:23.53 | DWSR | it's just /etc/hosts |
| 20:24.10 | DWSR | Or windir\system32\drivers\etc\hosts |
| 20:24.21 | tekkub | mmmm hosts |
| 20:24.28 | tekkub | yummy yummy hosts |
| 20:24.55 | Kissy | I am not sure if it is an executable file or another stack that is ran through WoWMatrix's programming. Either way it is exploitable. |
| 20:24.59 | tekkub | though I'd just redirect it to google :) |
| 20:25.00 | Shirik | Is an HQX file a Mac executable? |
| 20:25.03 | Kissy | will check very soon. |
| 20:25.22 | Kissy | HQX is an archive format. |
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| 20:25.59 | Kissy | The Unarchiver or StuffIt will open it. |
| 20:26.34 | DWSR | I heart wanding for 1k |
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| 20:38.49 | AckisWork | IsUnitNPC wtb/ |
| 20:40.59 | haste | UnitIsNPC would be more WoW |
| 20:41.17 | foxlit | not UnitIsPlayerControlled? |
| 20:41.52 | haste | :D |
| 20:42.04 | AckisWork | if (UnitExists("target") and (not UnitIsPlayer("target")) and (not UnitIsEnemy(("player", "target"))) then |
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| 20:42.47 | krka | yeah, i was just going to suggest thast |
| 20:42.49 | krka | *that |
| 20:44.50 | DWSR | I just suggest writing it as a function and gogo. |
| 20:46.05 | cairenn|afk | okay, I know I'm behind on things, so forgive me if this has already been posted, but |
| 20:46.16 | cairenn|afk | hahahhahahahahhahahahahah http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16409721693&sid=1&pageNo=4#67 |
| 20:47.12 | cairenn|afk | Kaelten: I know you need the laugh, check that ^^ |
| 20:47.41 | Shirik | $ file Deprotect.sit |
| 20:47.41 | Shirik | Deprotect.sit: StuffIt Archive (data) : T! |
| 20:47.44 | Shirik | wtf is T! |
| 20:47.49 | jin_sane_ | cairenn|afk: nice find |
| 20:48.04 | DWSR | cairenn|afk: Nice. :d |
| 20:48.40 | Shirik | wow cairenn|afk |
| 20:48.55 | zenzelezz | cairenn|afk: why wasn't I informed about these bribes? I would have submitted addons! |
| 20:49.00 | krka | funny post is funny |
| 20:49.08 | krka | wtb bribes |
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| 20:49.26 | krka | actually, not really "buy" them, that would be a weird way of getting bribes |
| 20:49.36 | cairenn|afk | lol |
| 20:49.42 | Kaelten | cairenn|afk: hehehe |
| 20:49.45 | Arrowmaster | and yet tekkub and jnwhiteh got $100 donations from matrix@... |
| 20:49.54 | Arrowmaster | yesterday |
| 20:49.56 | Kaelten | I've not |
| 20:50.01 | cairenn|afk | I literally just sat here and howled with laughter at that one |
| 20:50.09 | jnwhiteh | i didn't say wowmatrix |
| 20:50.13 | tekkub | yea still confused about that one myself |
| 20:50.18 | jnwhiteh | but yes, the address began with matrix@ |
| 20:50.18 | AckisWork | Kaelten bribed me with sex, cairenn|afk bribed me with cookies! |
| 20:50.35 | krka | i maed u a braib but i eated it |
| 20:50.41 | Nechckn_AFK | cairenn|afk Kaelten I demand some of this under the counter cash!! I'm sure that jnwhiteh and tekkub would like some, too! |
| 20:50.57 | tekkub | I have starving kitties |
| 20:50.58 | krka | that's not all we want under the counter! |
| 20:51.11 | tekkub | MY CATS WILL DIE IF YOU DON"T BUY MY ADDONS |
| 20:51.16 | Kaelten | Nechckn_AFK: +2 -10 != +20 |
| 20:51.16 | tekkub | also I need a new TV |
| 20:51.27 | foxlit | I haven't seen my cat in days :( |
| 20:51.31 | krka | Kaelten: this is lua world, surely you meant ~= |
| 20:51.38 | Nechckn_AFK | Kaelten in my world it does whatever I like. |
| 20:51.40 | foxlit | And nobody bought my addons. |
| 20:51.41 | Kaelten | krka: fair enough |
| 20:51.47 | foxlit | I see correlation here. |
| 20:52.12 | haste | what do you call the bags with "water" and some chip that makes it crystalize? |
| 20:52.22 | krka | foxlit: correlation is not causation! |
| 20:52.36 | krka | well maybe (no pun intende) |
| 20:52.45 | haste | that become hot! |
| 20:53.15 | haste | nvm! |
| 20:54.24 | Zhinjio | Hey Nechckn_AFK |
| 20:54.54 | Nechckn_AFK | yes, Zhinjio? |
| 20:55.01 | Zhinjio | hi! |
| 20:55.09 | Nechckn_AFK | hola |
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| 20:58.15 | Kraftman | thats supercooling caused by lack of a nucleation site :) |
| 20:58.23 | Kraftman | see i did learn something at uni! |
| 20:59.01 | Kraftman | no idea what they are called tho :P |
| 20:59.57 | haste | Kraftman: heating pads :D |
| 21:01.01 | Kraftman | ^^ |
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| 21:03.36 | Lunessa | tekkub: Write more code, watch less TV. And teach the cat to catch mice. |
| 21:05.31 | tekkub | I actually watch very little TV as is |
| 21:05.37 | tekkub | ~4-5hr a week |
| 21:09.13 | Esine | is that little!? |
| 21:09.17 | Lunessa | tekkub: The above comment was meant as a "yank his chain" joke. :P |
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| 21:12.06 | Kirov | carbonite is on WoWI now, interesting |
| 21:13.11 | NeoTron | say whatever you want abotu carbonite - sure can't complain about the developers |
| 21:14.10 | AckisWork | NeoTron: wanna bet? |
| 21:15.53 | NeoTron | AckisWork: I mainly meant their reaction to the addon changes - release it for free and thanking for the fish |
| 21:16.23 | AckisWork | no I just mean peopel complain about everything |
| 21:16.43 | NeoTron | sure sure |
| 21:16.53 | NeoTron | but I mainly meant .. what i said above |
| 21:20.06 | Esine | :/ anyone have suggestions what to do with the 17 million billion billion ip addresses I have? I'm using only one atm. |
| 21:20.45 | Nechckn | sell to highest bidder? |
| 21:21.03 | NightHawkTheSane | inject yourself with 17 million billion billion nanocomputers, and assign them all addresses? |
| 21:21.09 | Nechckn | better do it before IPV6 really hits though |
| 21:21.19 | Esine | ah yes, great idea nighthawk |
| 21:21.45 | Esine | maybe I could my keyring an ip |
| 21:21.56 | Esine | so I could find my keys.. |
| 21:22.05 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, you could give the nanocomputers websites, so people could see, for example, what the nerv if your left pinky is doing! |
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| 21:24.22 | AckisWork | Shirik: will I get in trouble for using dumbass on the wowi fourms? |
| 21:24.45 | Shirik | If you find me a way to remove a password from a hypercard stack, then no |
| 21:25.06 | AckisWork | take stack, remove password, put stack back |
| 21:25.15 | Shirik | ... |
| 21:25.34 | zenzelezz | reverse the polarity |
| 21:25.47 | Jamash | of the neutron flow |
| 21:27.18 | airtonix | el oh el |
| 21:27.55 | NeoTron | so.. does "hypercard stacks" still exist? |
| 21:29.16 | Arrowmaster | wowmatrix uses it |
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| 21:30.53 | airtonix | for its macos .dat thingo? |
| 21:31.00 | I440r | cannot find a library intance of "LibBabble-3.0" |
| 21:31.10 | ScytheBlade1 | No, the entire thing is hypercard |
| 21:31.15 | airtonix | ok |
| 21:31.17 | I440r | anyone know what causes that error? |
| 21:31.30 | airtonix | yes your cats don't have enough milk |
| 21:31.33 | I440r | oh that seems to be an auctioneer problem hrm |
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| 21:35.49 | Tuller | so, has anyone done the argent tournament stuff and had issues with omnicc? |
| 21:36.28 | Lunessa | Tuller: I used OmniCC and no, no issues. |
| 21:39.09 | AckisWork | Tuller: no issues with it, just that other bug I think I botmailed to you |
| 21:39.29 | Shirik | o.O |
| 21:39.45 | Shirik | I managed to partially open wowmatrix's UI hypercard (accidentally) |
| 21:39.51 | Shirik | there's a bunch of "test button" all over the place |
| 21:39.56 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 21:40.44 | Industrial | Kaelten: ping |
| 21:41.47 | Industrial | or anyone else that uses curse.com; |
| 21:41.59 | Industrial | How do i get the RSS feed of this page (the updates) http://war.curse.com/downloads/New.aspx?SectionID=3825 |
| 21:42.33 | AckisWork | http://www.planetpooch.com/webcams/rwc_canis_minor_safe.php lol |
| 21:42.37 | Kaelten | Industrial: feed://war.curseforge.com/projects.rss |
| 21:43.27 | Industrial | thanks man :) |
| 21:43.54 | Kaelten | :) |
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| 21:45.19 | Shirik | feed:// ? |
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| 21:48.40 | Thunder_Child | tekkub, ping |
| 21:48.56 | tekkub | deeper |
| 21:49.10 | Thunder_Child | *Shove* |
| 21:49.50 | Thunder_Child | on the spell table, is the listed crit just the base crit? |
| 21:50.01 | Tuller | then i'm calling that not a bug, hurray :) |
| 21:52.20 | tekkub | it's whatever the API gives me |
| 21:52.35 | tekkub | it doesn't account for talents that don't change the API |
| 21:52.47 | tekkub | like school-specific or spell-specific ones |
| 21:53.10 | tekkub | if you know of a talent that should up base crit and it doesn't appear to let me know |
| 21:53.26 | tekkub | the +hit talents are like that, I have to manually check for them |
| 21:53.44 | tekkub | wouldn't surprise me if crit was the same way |
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| 21:59.09 | Shirik | lol wtf is this |
| 21:59.29 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/112504 |
| 22:00.25 | Jamash | huh |
| 22:00.51 | Shirik | lua> 0x005ceab8 - 0x005ce838 |
| 22:00.52 | lua_bot | Shirik: 640 |
| 22:01.26 | Thunder_Child | well whatever it is you are missing by 2.01% tekkub, i'll take a look later |
| 22:02.36 | tekkub | does the value match what the char frame's stats give you? |
| 22:02.42 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 22:02.49 | Thunder_Child | like i said, 2.01% off |
| 22:02.53 | tekkub | spell or melee? |
| 22:02.56 | Thunder_Child | spell |
| 22:03.06 | Thunder_Child | and thats the comon one, not my specific one |
| 22:03.10 | tekkub | yea those aren't going to match |
| 22:03.24 | tekkub | two roll system and all |
| 22:03.50 | tekkub | if you take the char frame's crit * hit do you get my number? |
| 22:03.50 | Thunder_Child | huh |
| 22:04.13 | Thunder_Child | rating or %? |
| 22:04.27 | tekkub | %, after factoring in +hit% bonuses |
| 22:04.33 | Kraftman | does file:read("*all") return nil if the file is empty? |
| 22:04.39 | tekkub | which idHitThat should tell you what they are |
| 22:04.39 | foxlit | the default mode of transportation for the rune giants in grizzly hills is spawning on top of people |
| 22:04.39 | Thunder_Child | one sec, KT |
| 22:04.46 | tekkub | NAOW |
| 22:04.53 | Thunder_Child | err..make that more like 10 min, KT |
| 22:04.56 | tekkub | foxlit: yup! |
| 22:07.12 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: wtb? |
| 22:08.16 | Shirik | yes! |
| 22:08.18 | Shirik | I win |
| 22:08.59 | Shirik | thanks Xinhuan for Omen, the primary assistant in this endeavor |
| 22:09.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik > hypercard? |
| 22:09.49 | Shirik | well I decided to screw the hypercard approach |
| 22:09.58 | Shirik | I just paused wowmatrix and started sifting through its memory |
| 22:10.27 | krka | what's a hypercard? |
| 22:10.32 | Kirov | * |
| 22:10.36 | Kirov | ^ |
| 22:11.02 | Shirik | It's sorta like a language |
| 22:11.12 | NightHawkTheSane | its sorta like YOUR MOM |
| 22:11.23 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercard |
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| 22:12.17 | Thunder_Child | tekkub, i get 194,7512 what am i supposed to be getting? |
| 22:12.27 | Thunder_Child | s/4,/4./ |
| 22:12.48 | tekkub | ... |
| 22:13.00 | tekkub | what %hit and %crit does the char frame give you? |
| 22:13.13 | tekkub | and what +hit% bonuses does idHitThat report? |
| 22:13.49 | Thunder_Child | hit 5.38% (precision of 3%) and crit of 23.24 |
| 22:14.04 | Thunder_Child | % |
| 22:14.29 | mikma | blah |
| 22:14.40 | mikma | it's stupid that wow has limited amount of enchants you can put on cloak |
| 22:14.48 | NightHawkTheSane | bascon: it's not just for eating: http://www.popsci.com/bacon |
| 22:15.06 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: yeah, damn those finite amounts of things. |
| 22:15.24 | tekkub | TC, you should have effective crit of 21.23% |
| 22:15.50 | mikma | for dk tank there's only 2 enchants to use, +def or +agi22 |
| 22:16.06 | NightHawkTheSane | there's +armor |
| 22:16.16 | tekkub | you have 8.62% chance to miss |
| 22:16.29 | mikma | the +armor is pretty much useless now |
| 22:16.30 | NightHawkTheSane | and for a healer, there's one enchant. so suck it |
| 22:16.35 | tekkub | is that what iHT tells you? |
| 22:16.54 | Thunder_Child | my stats got adjusted but ya, that sounds correct |
| 22:17.03 | NightHawkTheSane | well, for ANY non-tailor spellcaster, there's one enchant. |
| 22:17.14 | mikma | 225 armor brings me like.. 5 ap :D |
| 22:17.28 | tekkub | sounds like it's right then, spell table's different than melee due to two-roll system |
| 22:18.32 | Thunder_Child | didnt realize you adjusted the crit with the hit, makes sense, i just didnt think of it |
| 22:18.50 | tekkub | yea, spell factors in hit, melee doesn't |
| 22:19.04 | tekkub | and the math is a pain, which is exactly why I wrote iHT |
| 22:22.05 | mikma | i has testes |
| 22:26.21 | Thunder_Child | gratz Mikk |
| 22:26.23 | Thunder_Child | damit |
| 22:26.27 | Thunder_Child | mikma* |
| 22:26.46 | mikma | i just love when people fail at that |
| 22:26.54 | Thunder_Child | this autocomplete thing is starting to get the best of me |
| 22:28.56 | Adys | http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1203171&cid=27620525 |
| 22:28.57 | Adys | rofl |
| 22:30.14 | mikma | http://www.piraattipuolue.fi/english |
| 22:30.48 | Thunder_Child | http://i.gizmodo.com/5216130/want-to-be-the-real-q-apply-here |
| 22:41.33 | Shirik | wow I'm impressed |
| 22:41.42 | Shirik | the WoWMatrix team knows what licenses are |
| 22:42.03 | tekkub | but did they when they started? |
| 22:42.10 | Shirik | case "OmniCC" -- BSD |
| 22:42.20 | mikma | http://github.com/tekkub/failpanda/tree/master <- tekkub owns |
| 22:42.32 | Shirik | case "Outfitter" -- contacted us before |
| 22:42.42 | jin_sane | anyone tested the SVN of DBM in VoA vs Emalon? |
| 22:42.51 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: o_0 |
| 22:43.09 | Legorol | VoA doesn't need DBM :P |
| 22:43.42 | jin_sane | Legorol: you don't need legs. having them is nice though yeah? |
| 22:43.43 | mikma | legorol: naxx doesn't need it either |
| 22:43.47 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: what do they list TomTom/LH as? |
| 22:43.54 | NightHawkTheSane | your MOM doesn't need DBM. |
| 22:43.55 | mikma | i just went 100% clear from 0 without any bossmods |
| 22:44.33 | Adys | NightHawkTheSane: your mom's so fat she takes up more space than the Atlas suite |
| 22:44.37 | Shirik | jnwhiteh: tomtom's not in the list |
| 22:44.44 | mikma | YO MAMMA FIIIIIIGHT! |
| 22:44.49 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: what all is? |
| 22:44.57 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: ? |
| 22:45.00 | Legorol | Shirik: what was that aabout WM and licenses? |
| 22:45.05 | Legorol | i think i missed what you are saying there |
| 22:45.08 | Shirik | I found WM's "special case" code |
| 22:45.20 | Shirik | and they have comments on most special case, mostly with licensing |
| 22:45.25 | Adys | mikma: your mom's so fat she can't fight since she's constantly outside dueling area. |
| 22:45.26 | Adys | afk. |
| 22:45.47 | mikma | adys: my mom is pretty slim actually, fail! |
| 22:45.48 | Legorol | special case code? wth is that? |
| 22:45.48 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: what all is in the special case list |
| 22:46.00 | Adys | mikma: then she's very tall |
| 22:46.11 | Adys | because i've never seen her NOT lying down |
| 22:46.30 | Adys | badum-fucking-pssh. |
| 22:46.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: hehe, i am amused. |
| 22:46.50 | Adys | barely am here |
| 22:46.53 | Adys | still |
| 22:46.55 | Adys | proud of that last one |
| 22:47.01 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster, do you have approve rights on wowace? |
| 22:49.10 | tekkub | that was weird... |
| 22:49.15 | tekkub | hit 'm' |
| 22:49.18 | tekkub | wow froze |
| 22:49.26 | tekkub | then black screen for ~30sec |
| 22:49.31 | tekkub | then back to normal |
| 22:49.49 | Shirik | there's quite a few, Arrowmaster |
| 22:49.52 | mikma | wowhead is down, yey! |
| 22:50.13 | Jamash | seems pretty up to me |
| 22:50.19 | Shirik | Start at 1483, Arrowmaster: http://wowi.pastey.net/112505-490f |
| 22:50.59 | Arrowmaster | gAceDB? |
| 22:51.23 | Shirik | gAddonDB |
| 22:51.28 | Shirik | it's an internal variable to the program |
| 22:51.33 | Shirik | I think it's their list of addons |
| 22:51.39 | Shirik | look at the cases, though |
| 22:52.40 | Arrowmaster | put "http://static.wowace.com/uploads/" into myA2 |
| 22:53.14 | Arrowmaster | wtf is "jafula" |
| 22:53.21 | Shirik | I duno |
| 22:53.25 | Shirik | I'm still figuring this out myself |
| 22:53.47 | Arrowmaster | "Illegal download attempt" |
| 22:53.55 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:54.11 | Jamash | remository? |
| 22:54.30 | Adys | jafulizes Arrowmaster |
| 22:54.32 | NightHawkTheSane | this looks like bad hack stacked on bad hack |
| 22:54.34 | Arrowmaster | oh jafula is just the source for the jamba multiboxer addons |
| 22:54.38 | *** join/#wowuidev Jim-Bim (n=thorben_@mnsr-4db1601c.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 22:55.03 | Adys | Age Of Conan: Free 7-Day Trial! |
| 22:55.07 | Adys | Please Play Our Game |
| 22:55.26 | Jamash | for the love of god, please play our game |
| 22:55.37 | Adys | http://cdn.funcom.com/aoc/trial/free_bottom.jpg |
| 22:55.38 | Adys | NOW |
| 22:55.41 | Arrowmaster | if (char 1 to 7 of tDownloadURL <> "http://") then put "http://files.wowace.com/" & pAddOn & "/" before tDownloadURL |
| 22:55.42 | Arrowmaster | heh |
| 22:55.43 | Adys | PLZ. |
| 22:56.25 | Arrowmaster | WTF |
| 22:56.27 | Arrowmaster | if (pAddOn = "PitBull") and (tTempLatestVersion = "r1744") then next repeat |
| 22:56.41 | Jamash | <>< have a lutefisk |
| 22:56.49 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: whats r1744 of pitbull? |
| 22:57.00 | ckknight | ? |
| 22:57.09 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: its in the wowmatrix code |
| 22:57.34 | ckknight | very old version |
| 22:57.54 | nevcairiel | that language is so weird |
| 22:58.03 | Adys | what language is that |
| 22:58.07 | Jamash | it's supposed to be "friendly and english-like" |
| 22:58.22 | Jamash | Adys: Hypercard |
| 22:58.26 | Adys | hahah |
| 22:58.39 | Shirik | oooh |
| 22:58.43 | Shirik | I just found another block of code |
| 22:58.49 | Shirik | I like how easy this is ^_^ |
| 22:58.56 | Jamash | I've used hypercard, in grade school |
| 22:59.06 | Jamash | to make a train that goes choo-choo |
| 22:59.23 | Arrowmaster | 690-706 = lol? |
| 22:59.36 | nevcairiel | Jamash: you're to blame for the damn train? |
| 22:59.37 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 22:59.39 | Adys | who the fuck codes in hypercard? |
| 22:59.42 | Adys | who the fuck. |
| 22:59.49 | NightHawkTheSane | wowmatrix, apparently |
| 23:00.06 | Jamash | nevcairiel: hehe, I didn't make the original stack, I just used it |
| 23:01.48 | Shirik | 'put the vScroll of fld "AddOns" of cd "AddOns" of stack "wowmatrix" into tPrevScroll' |
| 23:01.57 | Shirik | Any language that uses the keyword "the" is inherently flawed imo |
| 23:02.19 | amro | 'put the language up your ass and learn a real one' |
| 23:02.55 | NightHawkTheSane | I think applescript might use the, but i dont recall. |
| 23:02.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Applescript sucks anyway |
| 23:03.04 | Jamash | applescript is a descendant of hypercard |
| 23:03.09 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 23:03.38 | NightHawkTheSane | although these days its not terribad, and useful for some things |
| 23:03.46 | Adys | hypercard is dead |
| 23:03.49 | Adys | but, DEAD |
| 23:03.56 | Adys | how does it even run |
| 23:04.15 | Thunder_Child | you can do a check to see if you are in a major city right? |
| 23:04.20 | Thunder_Child | and which one? |
| 23:04.22 | foxlit | <3 quest objective |
| 23:04.23 | pnorman | What are we looking at? |
| 23:04.29 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: If GetRealZoneText() ==, iirc. |
| 23:04.31 | foxlit | "Harrison has escorted you to safety" |
| 23:04.33 | Adys | pnorman: bad porn |
| 23:04.46 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 23:05.29 | NeoTron | man the wowmatrix code is horrid |
| 23:05.36 | Adys | Kalroth: this one's for you babe |
| 23:05.37 | Adys | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=50458.msg851301#msg851301 |
| 23:05.37 | pnorman | I've seen a WoW anti-idle bot written in applescript |
| 23:05.52 | Thunder_Child | mikma, i'm going to tell the autobar person the same thing but you might want to grey out the portal to the current city you happen to be in (for wormhole) just so people like me dont keep porting to a city they happen to be standing in |
| 23:06.11 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: so the version you are reverse engineering has already stop distributing Omen? |
| 23:06.18 | Shirik | it looks like it |
| 23:06.21 | Jamash | Thunder_Child: fail less, imo |
| 23:06.22 | Shirik | I haven't actually tested it myself |
| 23:06.34 | Arrowmaster | atleast we have a complete list of everything they are hosting |
| 23:06.40 | *** part/#wowuidev JackBurton7676 (n=JackBurt@213.255.226.51) |
| 23:06.45 | Arrowmaster | well complete as far as the wowmatrix client is concerned |
| 23:06.46 | Adys | where did they release it? |
| 23:07.00 | Thunder_Child | Jamash, it's easier to try to make anti-foolish mods than to fix the fools |
| 23:07.03 | NeoTron | interesting |
| 23:07.27 | Adys | (as in why/is there an announcement/ |
| 23:07.28 | NeoTron | they are hosting addons that have open source licences |
| 23:07.38 | Jamash | that makes sense |
| 23:07.43 | NeoTron | but man that code has an immense amount of duplication |
| 23:07.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: bah, that's silly. I teleport to the same city i'm in on purpose sometimes. |
| 23:08.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Usually because I'm too lazy to walk from the bank/AH to the mage trainer. >.> |
| 23:08.24 | pnorman | I've paid for portals to the same city. |
| 23:08.37 | Thunder_Child | you people fail |
| 23:09.00 | Jamash | I've paid for portals to your mom |
| 23:09.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Jamash: you paid too much. |
| 23:09.18 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 23:09.20 | Arrowmaster | omg |
| 23:09.28 | NeoTron | Magic Runes is big enough for them to special hack for it. interesting |
| 23:09.32 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Confirmed |
| 23:09.37 | Shirik | omen is not able to be installed by WM |
| 23:09.38 | Arrowmaster | line 1902 and etc |
| 23:09.47 | Arrowmaster | just hide some of those lines on every page |
| 23:09.56 | Arrowmaster | = fun times |
| 23:10.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: stick it in a comment on every mod page? :P |
| 23:10.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Drayk (n=Tewan@ppp-70-253-88-202.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) |
| 23:10.28 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:10.32 | Shirik | that's brilliant Arrowmaster :P |
| 23:10.41 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: ping |
| 23:10.45 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: ping |
| 23:10.49 | Arrowmaster | Dolby: ping |
| 23:10.49 | Kaelten | pong |
| 23:10.52 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: what? |
| 23:10.57 | Arrowmaster | http://wowi.pastey.net/112505-490f |
| 23:11.00 | Arrowmaster | line 1902 |
| 23:11.01 | Shirik | You know, my objective was not to find new ways to break WM |
| 23:11.02 | nevcairiel | don't you think they would easily fix that? |
| 23:11.06 | Arrowmaster | put it in a comment on every page |
| 23:11.06 | Shirik | my objective was just to find what addons they're hosting |
| 23:11.14 | Shirik | yeah I have to side with nevcairiel there :) |
| 23:11.17 | Adys | nevcairiel: this is hypercard |
| 23:11.18 | Shirik | I just think it would be funny |
| 23:11.21 | Thunder_Child | so is WM starting to go legit? |
| 23:11.30 | Kaelten | Thunder_Child: not sure about that |
| 23:11.31 | Kaelten | lol |
| 23:11.32 | Shirik | I think WM is trying to stay afloat where they can |
| 23:11.35 | Adys | hypercard |
| 23:11.39 | Adys | i mean |
| 23:11.42 | NeoTron | lol <font color="background color" size="1">Post Not Found - Curse</font> |
| 23:11.51 | Kaelten | lol |
| 23:11.54 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: they would,certainly, but it'd make their life tougher, so why not? :P |
| 23:11.56 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: you do know this is irrelevant now that they don't scrape from us |
| 23:12.00 | Adys | DONT EVER DO THAT IN FRONT OF ME NEOTRON |
| 23:12.08 | Kaelten | Shirik: you're decompiling wowmatrix? |
| 23:12.10 | Kaelten | lol |
| 23:12.10 | Adys | dont you ever fucking do that again |
| 23:12.11 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: are you sure they dont? or just that they cant |
| 23:12.17 | nevcairiel | NightHawkTheSane: because its silly. develop a working counter-measure, dont play cat and mouse |
| 23:12.25 | Kemayo | Yeah, if they're hosting open source mods themselves, it's not a problem. |
| 23:12.30 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: no reason you can't do both. ;) |
| 23:12.38 | NeoTron | Adys: QQ |
| 23:13.02 | Arrowmaster | i so want to find a way to break one of these 'repeat forever' sections |
| 23:14.22 | NeoTron | Adys: I must admit, I am confused at your outburst of rage and hatefulness |
| 23:14.35 | Adys | NeoTron: <font> is WRONG |
| 23:14.38 | Adys | color= is WRONG |
| 23:14.44 | Adys | size= is WRONG. |
| 23:14.52 | Kraftman | he didnt write it |
| 23:15.03 | Adys | whoever did was wrong. |
| 23:15.07 | Jamash | <marquee> HI ADYS </marquee> |
| 23:15.15 | Adys | ive got that disabled |
| 23:15.19 | Arrowmaster | this is so horrible |
| 23:15.20 | Adys | not like i care |
| 23:15.31 | Funkeh` | How long do I need to wait before you guys approve bigwigs? Uploaded over an hour ago >.> |
| 23:15.51 | Arrowmaster | if ("<TITLE>ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved</TITLE>" is in pPageContents) or ("<title>Website Unavailable</title>" is in pPageContents) or \ |
| 23:15.52 | Arrowmaster | ("<title>500 Internal Server Error</title>" is in pPageContents) or ("<title>503 - Service Not Available</title>" is in pPageContents) or \ |
| 23:15.52 | Arrowmaster | ("<p>Either the site is offline or an unhandled error occurred." is in pPageContents) then |
| 23:15.59 | jnwhiteh | Funkeh`: let one of us know |
| 23:16.04 | jnwhiteh | especially if you know we are here., |
| 23:16.05 | Arrowmaster | can they not check status codes? |
| 23:16.13 | NeoTron | Adys: so I didn't care to make a line in here with proper css to demonstrate by example :P |
| 23:16.14 | Adys | hypercard |
| 23:16.17 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: you think these guys know HTTP? |
| 23:16.20 | Funkeh` | jnwhiteh, I'm not going to bug people every time I make an upload, thanks |
| 23:16.27 | jnwhiteh | i didn't ask you to |
| 23:16.34 | jnwhiteh | but don't complain then |
| 23:16.40 | jnwhiteh | we're not always staring at the file queue. |
| 23:16.43 | Adys | NeoTron: "proper css" doesnt mean its harder to write |
| 23:16.49 | jnwhiteh | we'll get to it when we get to it, or you can NICELY ping us to ask |
| 23:16.51 | Funkeh` | You are usually prompt, now you're not. There's my reason to complain |
| 23:16.55 | Adys | <span style="display:none;">hi guys</span> |
| 23:16.56 | jnwhiteh | you know how this works |
| 23:16.56 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 23:17.00 | jnwhiteh | you have absolutely no reason to complain |
| 23:17.00 | jnwhiteh | period. |
| 23:17.02 | jnwhiteh | thanks. |
| 23:17.04 | jnwhiteh | approved. |
| 23:17.04 | NeoTron | Adys: it is since I don't know css very well |
| 23:17.08 | Funkeh` | Oh, here we go, typical attitude |
| 23:17.09 | jnwhiteh | stop being an ass |
| 23:17.12 | nevcairiel | (they are prompt when cair is awake) |
| 23:17.14 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 23:17.43 | NeoTron | time to go have snacks and beer |
| 23:17.46 | Funkeh` | heh, quite true nevcairiel |
| 23:17.52 | NeoTron | friday tradition at work... :) |
| 23:18.03 | Jamash | I'm helping a friend's dad diagnose his computer's problems with WoW |
| 23:18.13 | Funkeh` | format C! |
| 23:18.15 | Adys | Jamash: ATI? |
| 23:18.48 | Jamash | in return he gave me a Rorschach ski mask :D |
| 23:18.59 | Jamash | nah, nvidia |
| 23:19.12 | Arrowmaster | if "Cartographer1" is among the lines of gInstalledAddonFileList then get uninstallAddon("Cartographer1") |
| 23:19.13 | Jamash | first his ethernet cable was faulty, now it's his cable modem |
| 23:19.20 | Arrowmaster | omg wowmatrix uninstalls addons on its own! |
| 23:20.00 | jnwhiteh | !addon HandyNotes |
| 23:20.09 | Adys | AMONG is a hypercard keyword? |
| 23:20.10 | Adys | fuck it |
| 23:20.21 | Arrowmaster | wtf 2563-2571, thats just wrong and i dont know who that works |
| 23:20.45 | lua_bot | HandyNotes (v. 79921) last updated Thu Aug 7 16:16 (http://is.gd/t2O4) |
| 23:21.02 | Funkeh` | um |
| 23:21.03 | nevcairiel | Fins page is so outdated =( |
| 23:21.08 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 23:21.21 | jnwhiteh | he needs to make it scan the new wowace/curse |
| 23:21.24 | jnwhiteh | but it helps sometimes |
| 23:22.36 | Arrowmaster | lol they have a donation section in here thats hardcoded |
| 23:23.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraft (n=kraftman@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust836.swan.cable.ntl.com) |
| 23:24.02 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: were you needing passkeys for something to decrypt? |
| 23:24.53 | amro | Arrowmaster: for me it's 1-4386 that's just wrong |
| 23:25.03 | Adys | idd |
| 23:25.47 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: The addon database is an encrypted hypercard stack |
| 23:25.51 | Shirik | that's the password I'm looking for |
| 23:26.05 | Arrowmaster | i have it |
| 23:26.08 | pnorman | lemme plug this into my applescript tools |
| 23:26.13 | foxlit | *cough*legalimplications*cough* |
| 23:26.25 | Arrowmaster | set the passKey of stack "wdb" to "mkxq51L7OC72Zg1U5VVJ3V" |
| 23:26.54 | mikma | guildname: "AND DROP TABLE character" |
| 23:28.11 | Arrowmaster | set the passKey of stack "wdb2" to "vA2yHY0h0G25arUl4hs95B" |
| 23:28.54 | amro | mikma: +5 |
| 23:28.55 | amro | epic |
| 23:29.20 | Arrowmaster | answer warning t("The following AddOn(s) could not be retrieved because 'Windows Parental Controls' is blocking the download location(s).") & cr & cr & pAddOn & cr & cr & \ |
| 23:29.21 | Arrowmaster | t("Please adjust your 'Windows Parental Controls' settings to resolve this issue.") as sheet |
| 23:29.24 | Arrowmaster | no thats epic |
| 23:31.20 | Shirik | omfg |
| 23:31.21 | Shirik | Arrowmaster |
| 23:31.24 | Shirik | I love you so much |
| 23:31.40 | Arrowmaster | scriptErrors is the CVar for the default error frame right? and 1 is enabled right? |
| 23:31.53 | Arrowmaster | replace ("SET checkAddonVersion " & quote & "1" & quote) with ("SET checkAddonVersion " & quote & "0" & quote) in tNewData |
| 23:31.58 | Arrowmaster | DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE |
| 23:32.35 | mikma | .. what's going on arrowmaster? you haxxing wowmatrix? :D |
| 23:32.40 | Arrowmaster | shirik is |
| 23:33.35 | Shirik | hrm, Arrowmaster, that password doesn't seem to work |
| 23:33.48 | Shirik | I wonder if there's a difference between "password" and "passKey" |
| 23:33.48 | amro | ACCESS DENIED |
| 23:35.45 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Got it :) |
| 23:35.51 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: OMG! LINE 3730!!!! |
| 23:35.57 | Arrowmaster | LOOK AT IT! |
| 23:36.04 | *** join/#wowuidev Tem (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 23:36.04 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Tem] by ChanServ |
| 23:36.12 | Adys | lmao |
| 23:36.14 | mikma | whats at line 3730 |
| 23:36.22 | Shirik | ! |
| 23:36.23 | Adys | your mom |
| 23:36.27 | Adys | and she's got a pretty name |
| 23:36.29 | Arrowmaster | else if (the platform = "Win32") and ("/Richard Goldman/Desktop" is not in specialFolderPath("Desktop")) then |
| 23:37.01 | *** join/#wowuidev kraft_ (n=kraftman@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust836.swan.cable.ntl.com) |
| 23:37.10 | kraft_ | bah |
| 23:37.20 | Adys | sounds secure too |
| 23:37.41 | pnorman | What language is this in anyways? |
| 23:37.47 | Arrowmaster | hypercard |
| 23:38.00 | amro | hyperfail |
| 23:38.08 | Adys | huge fucking hyperfail |
| 23:38.10 | pnorman | oh, HyperTalk? |
| 23:38.15 | Adys | yes |
| 23:38.39 | DWSR | Anyone here have issues with Healbot and Healing Touch (resto druid) |
| 23:38.55 | mikma | thunder_child: teleporting to the same city.. |
| 23:39.13 | Thunder_Child | mikma, yes? |
| 23:39.39 | Adys | i remember hypercard stacks from when i was like 6 |
| 23:39.45 | mikma | thunder_child: well, need to put that in todo ^^ fixing the framewidth when learning new portals is also planned ^^ |
| 23:39.46 | Adys | think we were using mac os 7 back then |
| 23:42.37 | Arrowmaster | so wowmatrix has a check inside the getOfficialWebPageURL function to replace the links to zygors site with links to zygors site with a referalid |
| 23:43.33 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: check what wowmatrix says is the official site for questhelper |
| 23:44.13 | *** join/#wowuidev tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub) |
| 23:44.13 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 23:44.27 | mikma | is it the game that makes the combat-sounds or is it MSBT? |
| 23:44.34 | mikma | "doiiing" |
| 23:44.46 | pnorman | I can't find where loadNetStack is defined, and google isn't turning anything up either |
| 23:44.48 | Arrowmaster | 4223-4237 looks to be replacing the urls for addons they are now hosting themselves with links to their own site |
| 23:44.51 | *** join/#wowuidev ajmitch (n=ajmitch@172.41.255.123.static.snap.net.nz) |
| 23:45.27 | pnorman | Arrowmaster: No, that's somewhere else |
| 23:45.38 | ScytheBlade1 | ohh, we have source stuff? |
| 23:45.39 | pnorman | 1690 or so |
| 23:45.40 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Its AddonSite entry is wowi |
| 23:45.43 | Arrowmaster | theres code duplicated elsewhere |
| 23:45.47 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 :) |
| 23:45.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: link! |
| 23:45.58 | Shirik | One cool thing about hypercard is that it has to load all its code into memory |
| 23:45.59 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: in the db or using the actual client? |
| 23:46.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:46.06 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: The db |
| 23:46.11 | ScytheBlade1 | "cool thing" |
| 23:46.15 | Thunder_Child | [04:44] [2] <Harmonic>: you can't sue someone for that.. |
| 23:46.15 | Thunder_Child | [04:44] [2] <80:Chillin>: yes you can |
| 23:46.15 | Thunder_Child | [04:44] [2] <80:Doritos>: yes you acn |
| 23:46.19 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Even comments :) |
| 23:46.24 | Thunder_Child | [04:44] [2] <80:Doritos>: just wait till blizzard decides to sue them for spamming ingame.. |
| 23:46.25 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: in the client i think it will point to a page on wowmatrix's domain from the code i found |
| 23:46.25 | ScytheBlade1 | .. LINK ME |
| 23:46.28 | Thunder_Child | ^^ meant to go first |
| 23:46.38 | Shirik | I haven't looked at DB2 yet (there's 2 DB files) |
| 23:46.50 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Give ScytheBlade1 the link before he freaks out |
| 23:46.56 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: db2 was in a section for acedb |
| 23:46.58 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6 |
| 23:47.02 | ScytheBlade1 | s/6// |
| 23:47.03 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: http://wowi.pastey.net/112505-490f |
| 23:47.32 | ScytheBlade1 | that's a lot of source |
| 23:47.36 | Shirik | That's not all of it |
| 23:47.38 | Shirik | that's only one chunk |
| 23:47.45 | Shirik | I can only extract it in chunks that I find |
| 23:48.06 | Arrowmaster | what is www.wowstead.com |
| 23:48.26 | ScytheBlade1 | wow, these people pull EVERYTHING |
| 23:49.04 | ScytheBlade1 | At least they list the licenses that the addons are using? |
| 23:49.22 | ScytheBlade1 | and wow hypercard is a terrible language |
| 23:49.53 | Thunder_Child | anyone know anything about |
| 23:49.53 | Thunder_Child | [04:48] [G] <80:Blazeofglory>: ok, i'm confused, i have [Heroic: The Culling of Stratholme] but it isnt checked off on |
| 23:49.53 | Thunder_Child | [04:48] [G] <80:Blazeofglory>: [Champion of the Frozen Wastes] |
| 23:49.54 | pnorman | It's not actually hypercard, looks like it's Transcript |
| 23:50.01 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: DB2 has no entry for QuestHelper |
| 23:50.07 | Shirik | (and I should point out DB2 specifies the download links, etc.) |
| 23:50.08 | Thunder_Child | and i'm not the only one |
| 23:50.41 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: yes theres override code for all the stuff they are hosting themselves, including overriding stuff like the 'official site' |
| 23:50.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraftman (n=kraftman@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust836.swan.cable.ntl.com) |
| 23:51.21 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 23:51.22 | ScytheBlade1 | -- doesn't support https yet |
| 23:51.46 | Arrowmaster | if you select questhelper in wowmatrix and select to goto the official site it should goto http://www.wowmatrix.com/addons/questhelper.html |
| 23:52.11 | Thunder_Child | they are going to get screwed because of how they ran roughshod over all the authors |
| 23:52.13 | amro | ScytheBlade1: [00:49:23] <ScytheBlade1> and wow hypercard is a terrible language <- that's all that needs to be said |
| 23:52.20 | Arrowmaster | that do that for quartz, ratingbuster, questhelper, and have it commented out for omen and recount |
| 23:52.53 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowmatrix.com/addons/omen.html still works |
| 23:57.08 | Shirik | I must say |
| 23:57.18 | Shirik | runtime revolution is an interesting program |
| 23:57.29 | Shirik | but this proves it's unsuitable for a finished product imo |
| 23:57.48 | Shirik | for a commercial product, I should say |
| 23:58.39 | ScytheBlade1 | So what other code do we have? |
| 23:59.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Because this stuff is pretty boring |
