| 00:00.11 | tem | Vonhinten, are you horde or alliance? |
| 00:00.12 | Vonhinten | alli |
| 00:00.26 | Moleculor | ScytheBlade1: Don't suppose it'd be terribly easy for you to pop a link up here? :D |
| 00:00.27 | tem | do you raid? |
| 00:00.34 | Vonhinten | yeah |
| 00:00.35 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16366377364&sid=1 |
| 00:00.37 | tem | what guild? |
| 00:00.39 | Aznamir | FUUUUUUUUUUUU..... just got disconnected and there's 1700 queue already |
| 00:00.41 | Vonhinten | Dragon Bane |
| 00:00.46 | tem | I see |
| 00:00.53 | ScytheBlade1 | "1) Stop hosting the files on your own domain. There are tons of services and groups that will do this for you. Sourceforge is even a viable option. " |
| 00:00.56 | Vonhinten | My rogue is top geared on server |
| 00:01.06 | Vonhinten | (last I looked) |
| 00:01.08 | tem | that means little =P |
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| 00:01.26 | Vonhinten | I guess :) |
| 00:01.29 | Maldivia | 19k queue for argent dawn, hehe |
| 00:01.33 | tem | I looked once |
| 00:01.38 | tem | and I was only in the top 20 or so |
| 00:01.43 | Thrae | Anyone know of a great Resto Druid? I need a spec to steal. |
| 00:01.43 | bleeter | sourceforge |
| 00:01.45 | bleeter | viable |
| 00:01.47 | bleeter | WHAT THE FUCK |
| 00:01.49 | tem | but I know I'm the only DK tank on the server with a Black Proto |
| 00:01.49 | bleeter | ?? |
| 00:02.06 | Vonhinten | you alli? |
| 00:02.09 | tem | so those gear ranking things are pretty off |
| 00:02.11 | tem | I am |
| 00:02.22 | Vonhinten | edge? bad mojo? |
| 00:02.28 | tem | Lunaris |
| 00:02.31 | Vonhinten | ah |
| 00:02.35 | Vonhinten | you guys rebuilding? |
| 00:02.43 | tem | We rebuilt in february |
| 00:02.45 | bleeter | Thrae: lissana, the maintainer of the druid faq's, is resto. i stole her spec before ;) |
| 00:03.10 | Thrae | bleeter: Ah. True. |
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| 00:03.42 | Thrae | You know what dual spec is going to do -- make more hybridized classes like Druids, Paladins, etc. all hate each other. |
| 00:03.53 | Vonhinten | I would have liked to raid next to mojofabulous and sinzar, see where I stood |
| 00:04.02 | bleeter | Thrae: yup |
| 00:04.26 | bleeter | Thrae: and there still won't be enough tanks/heals to go around ;) |
| 00:04.54 | bleeter | coz everyone will be 'oh pve and pvp specs' |
| 00:04.54 | Maldivia | yeah, I have 10k gold to use when servers come up :| |
| 00:05.15 | Thrae | "Can I roll on both of those? I'm Feral/Resto." "I'm Holy/Ret so I need to roll on everything." "I'm a Rogue/Warrior so...no I'm just a Rogue, but I'm still rolling on that Feral Staff. Dual Staves FTW!" |
| 00:05.57 | Hirsute | ScytheBlade1: That poster is the epitome of fail. |
| 00:06.01 | Hirsute | And tinfoil hat |
| 00:06.08 | ScytheBlade1 | It just frightens me |
| 00:06.54 | Hirsute | *nod* |
| 00:07.20 | Hirsute | The "I won't log in, I'll update manually instead" argument is just comical to me. |
| 00:07.24 | Shirik | tekkub is jealous of my bold name |
| 00:07.48 | tekkub | not at all, you're just compensating for your lack of girth elsewhere |
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| 00:08.51 | Lunessa | station |
| 00:09.03 | Shirik | Lunessa: Which do you like more? Bold orange or thin teal? |
| 00:09.28 | Lunessa | For room paint, clothing, or UI elements? |
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| 00:10.10 | tem | Vonhinten, Sinz plays a DK in Crimson now |
| 00:10.19 | tem | no idea what became of mojo |
| 00:10.24 | Shirik | Lunessa: Answer the question |
| 00:10.25 | Lunessa | Room Paint and clothing - Teal, for UI elements, Orange is rocking. |
| 00:10.31 | Vonhinten | servers up? |
| 00:10.33 | Shirik | orange is rocking |
| 00:10.38 | Shirik | YOU HEAR THAT TEKKUB, ORANGE IS ROCKING |
| 00:10.42 | pnorman | announcement at 6 |
| 00:11.02 | pnorman | Argent Dawn is full: Position in queue: 14160 |
| 00:11.03 | tem | I've been at Retrieving Character List for 15-20 minutes and nothing, Vonhinten |
| 00:11.07 | Lunessa | Shirik: It should be noted I have no taste. |
| 00:11.11 | tem | so I think they're "up" |
| 00:11.14 | tekkub | what does Lunessa know about style? |
| 00:11.47 | Lunessa | I know, right? I mean for me, getting dressed up means wearing Doc Martins instead of my nikes. |
| 00:12.05 | bleeter | docs are shit boots |
| 00:12.11 | bleeter | blunnies or death |
| 00:12.21 | Esamynn | ~lart bleeter |
| 00:12.21 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on bleeter and turns bleeter into a brick |
| 00:12.58 | Lunessa | If only purl, if only. |
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| 00:13.34 | Lunessa | One of the main reasons I continue to work in IT is that no one expects me to wear a suit... ever. |
| 00:13.49 | dolseni | suits are awesome |
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| 00:14.17 | dolseni | i wish there were more times i could wear a suit and not look weird |
| 00:14.30 | Lunessa | Not when you're a 44" waist and a 30" leg. |
| 00:14.53 | dolseni | i'm a fatass as well |
| 00:15.06 | Lunessa | fires up CIV IV... |
| 00:15.37 | dolseni | its kinda sad, i want to lose some weight not for health reasons, but just so i can look better in a suit |
| 00:16.15 | Lunessa | dolseni: I want to look good in Armani too. |
| 00:16.29 | Lunessa | But just to get chicks. |
| 00:17.28 | tekkub | suits blow |
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| 00:17.49 | tekkub | hell I only own one pair of khaki's and that's my "dress up" shit that I never wear |
| 00:18.25 | Vonhinten | yeah Tem, I heard sinzar was first DK in the US a while back, now that you mention it |
| 00:18.28 | Dagmar | I would just like to see that they've fixed the shirt problem |
| 00:18.29 | Dagmar | http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s188/evildagmar/?action=view¤t=bellyshot.jpg |
| 00:18.44 | daev | Dressing up is fun. |
| 00:19.04 | Dagmar | Stomach poking out != impressive |
| 00:19.09 | tem | Vonhinten, he was |
| 00:19.16 | tem | nearly beat the euro to it |
| 00:19.38 | tem | (was behind by less time than they had time advantage) |
| 00:19.59 | tem | I'm in |
| 00:20.01 | tem | btw |
| 00:20.12 | Vonhinten | yeah, heard someone in vent say the same |
| 00:22.10 | Vonhinten | online in dalaran |
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| 00:22.46 | tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.19 | Vonhinten | ah, I see that |
| 00:29.05 | Funkeh` | guys |
| 00:29.13 | Funkeh` | why do we suddenly need to run java to download addons |
| 00:29.22 | Thunder_Child | anti-wowmatrix |
| 00:29.38 | ScytheBlade1 | You don't |
| 00:29.41 | Funkeh` | But that was implemented before the java thing I'm sure |
| 00:29.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Disable java and it'll revert to a session based captcha, so once and you're good |
| 00:29.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Or login |
| 00:30.18 | Funkeh` | ahh |
| 00:30.21 | Funkeh` | that must have been it |
| 00:30.25 | Funkeh` | been logged in all this time |
| 00:36.59 | mikma | how can i set my tooltips not to have title? |
| 00:37.26 | NeoTron | BuyEmAll broke! zomg |
| 00:38.28 | Shirik | die wasps die! |
| 00:38.29 | Shirik | rawr |
| 00:38.35 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 00:38.43 | Shirik | my can of death > your evil stingers |
| 00:38.45 | Shirik | huggles Gryphen |
| 00:38.49 | Gryphen | huggles Shirik |
| 00:38.52 | NeoTron | aha I had an old one |
| 00:39.40 | mikma | does /me and points it to gryphen |
| 00:39.43 | Gryphen | does /me and points it to mikma |
| 00:40.58 | kd3 | yay, my realm's back up |
| 00:41.25 | Shirik | awjefpoj powajef oijaw938hj 02jf dpojfwo Gryphen |
| 00:41.27 | Gryphen | awjefpoj powajef oijaw938hj 02jf dpojfwo Shirik |
| 00:41.34 | Shirik | >.> |
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| 00:41.37 | kd3 | lol |
| 00:42.58 | mikma | repeating, how can i make the title-text of gametooltip smaller like the rest of the tooltip? beladona remembered this :( |
| 00:43.22 | bleeter | mikma: sit further away from the screen? |
| 00:43.27 | Thunder_Child | my realm is up as well ^_^ |
| 00:43.41 | mikma | bleeter: that'll make all the lines smaller, i just need the first line |
| 00:44.06 | bleeter | mikma: well, just take those pixels off your screen and move them 10 feet back |
| 00:44.19 | mikma | ok tell me how to do that in lua |
| 00:44.49 | bleeter | very carefully |
| 00:45.04 | mikma | SetFontObject(GameTooltipText) |
| 00:47.05 | Legorol | mikma: probably change the size of GameTooltipTextLeft1 |
| 00:47.21 | Legorol | i forget which method changes font size, but that's the one you want to use, on that object |
| 00:47.26 | mikma | yeah that did the trick |
| 00:48.29 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_041509_034652.jpg .. result :) |
| 00:50.56 | Shirik | tekkub is awesome |
| 00:50.58 | Shirik | *edit* How is it that whore is not censored but ***** is? This is a load of ****ing **** if you ask my ass. |
| 00:50.58 | Shirik | *editedit* Oh look ass got through too! |
| 00:51.04 | tekkub | ^^ |
| 00:51.23 | tekkub | I hate wowi's censor |
| 00:51.28 | tekkub | do away with it! |
| 00:51.35 | Shirik | I honestly think the words are defaults |
| 00:51.39 | Shirik | but I wouldn't know |
| 00:53.22 | Vonhinten | Anyone working on Astrolabe fixes? |
| 00:54.14 | foxlit | hah, so they wiped the whining threads from the UI forums |
| 00:54.24 | foxlit | way to moderate <3 |
| 00:54.49 | Shefki | Vonhinten: It's already fixed. |
| 00:55.31 | bleeter | wtf? swift flight form quest completed today? |
| 00:55.31 | Shefki | Vonhinten: At least the beta of TomTom was working fine with it last night on the PTR. |
| 00:55.48 | Shirik | ahahahahahaha |
| 00:55.51 | Shirik | Guildie just linked this to me |
| 00:55.54 | Shirik | http://i43.tinypic.com/8xm1z5.jpg |
| 00:56.08 | Shirik | tourney realm right now |
| 00:56.14 | foxlit | meh, tourney! |
| 00:56.28 | Shirik | apparently people need something to do while realms are down :P |
| 00:56.34 | foxlit | If that was live, I could cheer that the entire Horde/Alliance leadership is so dead! |
| 00:57.04 | Shefki | I was about to ask if there was a bug that gave everyone bears or something. |
| 00:57.12 | Shefki | But yeah tournament realm makes sense. |
| 00:57.21 | Shirik | "I cant move If I try to move I just freeze" |
| 00:57.29 | foxlit | I'm sure most people have those mounts on live anyway |
| 00:59.50 | Shefki | foxlit: A lot, not that many. |
| 01:00.01 | foxlit | Oh, many, many more |
| 01:00.10 | foxlit | It's just about getting a concentration of level 80s in Ironforge. |
| 01:00.17 | foxlit | That's the *rare* component here :) |
| 01:00.44 | foxlit | ah, no, amani bears |
| 01:00.48 | foxlit | I am being silly |
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| 01:03.50 | Funkeh` | is someone manually updating the outdated survival guide |
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| 01:07.40 | Sixen | 3.1 today? |
| 01:07.45 | Shefki | Yes. |
| 01:08.22 | Sixen | Fasho. |
| 01:09.28 | WobWork | mikma: for your addon |
| 01:09.35 | WobWork | you should make it a 140 char limit |
| 01:09.47 | WobWork | and call it Twitter |
| 01:09.55 | mikma | wobwork: explain please =) |
| 01:09.58 | batrick | Anyway to limit the upload bandwidth of a program in linux? |
| 01:10.02 | Thunder_Child | ffs will blizz please stop deselecting the load out of date addons box!!! |
| 01:10.08 | WobWork | actually, that'd be a funny addon to write |
| 01:10.29 | WobWork | it could update everyone in your guild =P |
| 01:10.44 | bleeter | oh awesome, the did dedicate to arneson |
| 01:10.57 | mikma | wobwork: confused |
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| 01:11.05 | batrick | Thunder_Child: set your settings how you want and remove write protections on Config.wtc |
| 01:11.09 | batrick | Config.wtf* |
| 01:11.38 | Thunder_Child | meh, shouldnt have to do that |
| 01:11.51 | Arrowmaster | no create RunOnce.wtf and make it blank |
| 01:11.56 | Arrowmaster | and write protected |
| 01:12.14 | Arrowmaster | not sure if the patch will fail or not though |
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| 01:13.18 | Duman | uh, hmm |
| 01:13.25 | Duman | BuffFrame stuff was changed? |
| 01:13.29 | Duman | or am I high |
| 01:14.10 | mikma | wobwork: ! |
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| 01:17.10 | Nuckin | wow, this patch fails |
| 01:17.21 | Nuckin | Quest logs emptied |
| 01:17.21 | Duman | hooksecurefunc(): BuffFrame_UpdateDuration is not a function |
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| 01:17.30 | AbsolutRayne | Recount isnt up to date yet, correct? |
| 01:17.32 | Duman | my quest log is fine |
| 01:17.42 | Etanol | disable some quest addon |
| 01:17.45 | Shefki | Nuckin: Sure your friend isn't playing a joke on you? |
| 01:17.58 | Nuckin | Shefki: fuck off ya prick |
| 01:18.13 | mikma | there there |
| 01:18.22 | mikma | no need to be a retard, retard |
| 01:18.30 | Nuckin | Etanol: all out of date addons are off, i figured it mighta been Carbonite 3.001, but no dice |
| 01:18.31 | Etanol | ~Nuckin-- |
| 01:18.50 | tekkub | Time to abuse the glyph market while the abusin's good |
| 01:19.16 | Nuckin | mikma: you're arguing on the internet, think about it |
| 01:19.18 | Lunessa | I love how the internet culture of today is all about failure. |
| 01:19.24 | mikma | nuckin: retard |
| 01:19.56 | Nuckin | mikma: mhmm |
| 01:19.59 | Shefki | tekkub: OMG Where is my Glyph of Wild Growth... Slacker scribes. |
| 01:20.08 | Shefki | tekkub: You should give it to us for free too. :P |
| 01:20.10 | tekkub | milling right now |
| 01:20.19 | Shefki | My server still isn't up. :( |
| 01:20.21 | tekkub | just bought every reasonably priced herb on the AH |
| 01:20.32 | mikma | the markets have been quite hot now in eu |
| 01:20.44 | NightHawkTheSane | sadly, NR research seems to not give any of the new gyphs |
| 01:20.44 | mikma | everyone has been buying glyphs like crazy |
| 01:20.50 | Shirik | ok seriously |
| 01:20.56 | mikma | except me! |
| 01:20.56 | Shirik | the guy at the verizon store put my blackberry into "safe mode" |
| 01:21.00 | Shirik | and I can't get it out :( |
| 01:21.27 | Shirik | ahahahah, and now I know why |
| 01:21.34 | mikma | out of memory |
| 01:21.55 | Shirik | It told me this time "Your device is currently in Safe Mode. Your device starts in Safe Mode if you hold the Escape key during startup. To remain in Safe Mode, click OK. To exit Safe Mode, click Reset." |
| 01:22.09 | Shirik | Unfortunately, the problem I went into the verizon store about: The escape key is shorted out |
| 01:22.11 | Shefki | Escape key stuck down? |
| 01:22.18 | Dagmar | Sounds like the fix is to drop the cell phone |
| 01:22.23 | Dagmar | You have it insured, right? |
| 01:22.31 | Shirik | Yeah, they're already sending me a new one (they were out of stock) |
| 01:22.38 | Dagmar | Ah, cool. |
| 01:22.38 | Shirik | so I just have my broken one for the meantime since it mostly works |
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| 01:23.01 | Shefki | ZOMG ckknight curse is choking. |
| 01:23.02 | mikma | shirik: ouch lol |
| 01:23.05 | Dagmar | I tend to keep a phone until the provider migrates to a new infrastructure |
| 01:23.11 | ckknight | howso? |
| 01:23.24 | Shirik | Dagmar: I normally do too |
| 01:23.25 | Shefki | Page load took 30 seconds to happen. |
| 01:23.26 | mikma | its patchday |
| 01:23.29 | ckknight | Shefki: lame |
| 01:23.31 | Shirik | except I have come to the conclusion that while I love my blackberry |
| 01:23.34 | Shirik | it is not designed well |
| 01:23.35 | Shefki | I'm giving him crap. |
| 01:23.37 | mikma | every server holding addons are choking |
| 01:23.39 | ckknight | Shefki: what page? |
| 01:23.41 | Duman | ohsnap, it changed to AuraButton |
| 01:23.44 | Shirik | I got like 3 drops of rain on it |
| 01:23.46 | Shefki | ckknight: icwutudidthere |
| 01:23.46 | Shirik | and it dies |
| 01:23.49 | Nuckin | curse is always fail on patch day |
| 01:23.50 | Shirik | This happened last time too |
| 01:24.08 | Shefki | Nuckin: It's actually been great so far today. |
| 01:24.27 | Dagmar | Shefki: You forget. Noobs have only two adjectives for everything. Win and fail. |
| 01:24.33 | ckknight | Nuckin: it used to be bad, then it was rewritten |
| 01:25.00 | Shefki | Yeah it runs on Windows now... Must be good. lol |
| 01:25.11 | ckknight | Shefki: odd, it loads fast now |
| 01:25.32 | Shefki | *shrug* I was just giving you crap. |
| 01:25.42 | Shefki | It really did load slow though. |
| 01:25.52 | ckknight | I'm not denying |
| 01:26.03 | Nuckin | ckknight: I've steered clear of depending on curse because of the load times comparatively to other sites |
| 01:26.17 | Shefki | 30 seconds on a patch day isn't really that bad every once in a while. |
| 01:26.45 | Nuckin | Shefki: but its still longer than it takes WoWI on a patch day |
| 01:26.51 | Syzgyn | WoWI is holding up rather well, I'm pleasantly suprised |
| 01:28.47 | ZorbaTHut | the constant spam in /2 of "OMG MY ADONS DONT WORK" is getting pretty hilarious |
| 01:28.56 | ckknight | ZorbaTHut! |
| 01:29.01 | ckknight | I can't update QuestHelper with wowmatrix! |
| 01:29.07 | Torhal | Good lord. Whiny little bitches on WoWI. I'm not reading 10 pages of crying and finger-pointing. |
| 01:29.16 | ZorbaTHut | there seem to be people who are literally incapable of comprehending "ask your addon author to update nicely, and maybe he will" |
| 01:29.18 | Shefki | waves at ZorbaTHut |
| 01:29.22 | ZorbaTHut | "but it doesnt work i dont understand" |
| 01:29.23 | Torhal | ckknight: You're not a whiny little bitch. Stop that! |
| 01:29.38 | Dagmar | Torhal: That's right, you'll be reading 100 pages of that soon |
| 01:29.38 | ZorbaTHut | ckknight, immediately email wowmatrix multiple times asking for help, it is the only way to fix it |
| 01:29.43 | Dagmar | WAY more than 10 |
| 01:29.45 | ZorbaTHut | waves at Shefki |
| 01:30.06 | Shirik | omg ZorbaTHut |
| 01:30.18 | Mysticell | Cairenn, I Feel bad for you right about now. |
| 01:30.22 | Shirik | if only we had started an email campaign for everyone having WM problems to email them |
| 01:30.26 | Shefki | D'oh 500 error from WoWI |
| 01:30.34 | ZorbaTHut | I do hate how they get rid of talented abilities on your hotbar though |
| 01:30.37 | ZorbaTHut | just gray the button out |
| 01:30.38 | ZorbaTHut | don't get rid of it |
| 01:30.42 | AbsolutRayne | Wowinterface thinks im a Robot :< |
| 01:30.46 | ZorbaTHut | sighs and puts his buttons back |
| 01:30.47 | Shirik | AbsolutRayne: It does? |
| 01:30.56 | ckknight | AbsolutRayne: robot! |
| 01:31.03 | Shefki | ZorbaTHut: Big reason why I use Macaroon. |
| 01:31.04 | AbsolutRayne | DOES NOT COMPUTE |
| 01:31.17 | Shefki | ZorbaTHut: For all those things I make the buttons macro buttons instead of action buttons. |
| 01:31.20 | Shirik | AbsolutRayne: Why do you think it thinks that? |
| 01:31.25 | Shefki | ZorbaTHut: Then Blizzard can't mess with them. |
| 01:31.28 | AbsolutRayne | Cause im updating all my addons |
| 01:31.29 | AbsolutRayne | lol |
| 01:31.31 | ZorbaTHut | shefki, it's smart enough to mess with my macros also, somehow :( |
| 01:31.47 | Shefki | ZorbaTHut: That's why I said Maacroon |
| 01:31.53 | ZorbaTHut | I'll check that out |
| 01:32.01 | ZorbaTHut | okay this already looks incredibly useful |
| 01:32.06 | ZorbaTHut | I was running low on macros :( |
| 01:32.50 | ZorbaTHut | aww, my heirloom pvp shoulder enchant doesn't work anymore |
| 01:32.56 | ZorbaTHut | no more 400hp at level 1 :( |
| 01:33.17 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 01:33.28 | ZorbaTHut | not surprised, really, but oh man was that fun ;) |
| 01:33.48 | ScytheBlade1 | AbsolutRayne: log in, problem solved |
| 01:33.58 | ScytheBlade1 | AbsolutRayne: or, install java |
| 01:34.16 | mikma | zorbathut: wonder whcih level will make it work |
| 01:34.24 | ZorbaTHut | mikma, 70 |
| 01:34.28 | ZorbaTHut | it says in the tooltip, which is handy |
| 01:34.37 | mikma | meh |
| 01:35.04 | mikma | so long my warlock enchants |
| 01:35.04 | Shirik | wtf is this |
| 01:35.08 | Shirik | "Constructs a randomly generated positive BigInteger that is probably prime, with the specified bitLength." |
| 01:35.17 | Shirik | How can an API say "I might do this, but I might not" |
| 01:35.21 | mikma | i wonder will the pants-enchant work either |
| 01:35.41 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, probabalistic primality tests |
| 01:36.20 | AbsolutRayne | ScytheBlade1: Yeah I just realized logging in helps <_< |
| 01:36.30 | ZorbaTHut | there's a test which can provide a guarantee that something isn't prime, but cannot say whether it is prime. 50% chance of saying "nope, not prime" every test, assuming it isn't prime |
| 01:36.39 | NeoTron | wow blizzard really fails |
| 01:36.40 | ZorbaTHut | run that 50 times, 1/2^50 chance that it gets it wrong |
| 01:36.45 | ZorbaTHut | but that's not *entirely certain*. |
| 01:36.46 | NeoTron | badge plate tank pants has shield stats on it |
| 01:36.53 | NeoTron | way to make it useless for one class |
| 01:37.08 | AbsolutRayne | Hmm |
| 01:37.13 | AbsolutRayne | Cellular isnt showing my outgoing whispers |
| 01:37.24 | Legorol | NeoTron: badges haven't been in use since TBC, what are you on about? unless you mean emblems :P |
| 01:37.27 | Arrowmaster | disable it |
| 01:38.36 | Stanzilla | AbsolutRayne: you never told if that new dogtag was working or not :P |
| 01:39.04 | Legorol | ZorbaTHut: how did you get a 400hp enchant on a shoulder? |
| 01:39.57 | Dagmar | Legorol: He flinched at the wrong time |
| 01:40.18 | Funkeh` | did wowmatrix get past the block or is wowi just getting normally pumelled? :P |
| 01:40.38 | ScytheBlade1 | it got past the initial block, and then they turned on the real block and no more |
| 01:40.46 | Dagmar | Wowmatrix would probably murder it |
| 01:41.29 | Legorol | wowi is giving me 500 error :( |
| 01:41.36 | Arrowmaster | wowmatrix users are probably spam clicking update so it keeps downloading the pages trying to parse the links from it but cant |
| 01:41.39 | Funkeh` | yeah, just refrsh |
| 01:41.40 | bleeter | oO wowi's 500'ing? |
| 01:41.45 | mikma | its hammered by US and EU |
| 01:41.57 | Funkeh` | it's nearly 3am in eu |
| 01:41.58 | bleeter | k |
| 01:41.59 | Funkeh` | I doubt it |
| 01:42.03 | mikma | us got 3.1 and eu just went down = 1+1 |
| 01:42.09 | AbsolutRayne | Stanzilla: yes, it works great :) |
| 01:42.09 | Legorol | Funkeh`: i'm in EU, and i'm hammering it :) |
| 01:42.10 | Cairenn|afk | we know =/ |
| 01:42.17 | Funkeh` | stop hammering it |
| 01:42.19 | Funkeh` | bitch |
| 01:42.21 | Funkeh` | I wanna use it |
| 01:42.26 | Stanzilla | hammers Funkeh` |
| 01:42.29 | Stanzilla | AbsolutRayne: awesome :) |
| 01:42.30 | Funkeh` | :( |
| 01:42.31 | Legorol | otoh, curse is crawling to a halt too |
| 01:42.44 | AbsolutRayne | Anyone else notice the Shadow Settings change has made it 2xs as laggy? |
| 01:42.46 | AbsolutRayne | lol |
| 01:42.55 | Dagmar | Whatcha wanna bet WowMatrix is right this minute learning why there should be an internal limiter on how often it'll poll for updates |
| 01:43.00 | Funkeh` | shadows take away about 40fps |
| 01:43.06 | Funkeh` | hence why I doubt anyone uses them |
| 01:43.09 | AbsolutRayne | Yeah |
| 01:43.13 | AbsolutRayne | Looks pretty though |
| 01:43.15 | AbsolutRayne | its a shame |
| 01:43.23 | AbsolutRayne | Even on my comp its like OH MY GOD I HATE YOU |
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| 01:46.13 | ZorbaTHut | legorol, there was a lv70 pvp enchant you could buy and put on heirloom shoulders |
| 01:46.17 | ZorbaTHut | +30stam, +15resilience |
| 01:46.40 | Legorol | what could you buy it from? |
| 01:46.45 | Legorol | honor? arena? |
| 01:46.57 | ZorbaTHut | 10k honor |
| 01:47.02 | mikma | sw honor vendor |
| 01:47.06 | Thunder_Child | am i just an idiot that cant find Rugan Steelbelly? |
| 01:47.15 | Legorol | i'm guessing they forgot to put ilevel restriction on that |
| 01:47.18 | mikma | it had no level limit |
| 01:47.27 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, they did. it was nice while it lasted :) |
| 01:47.30 | mikma | and i have one in my heirloom shoulders |
| 01:47.37 | kd3 | hokay. need a minimap mod. suggestions? |
| 01:47.46 | ZorbaTHut | huh, they turned the lights down in Exodar |
| 01:47.59 | mikma | been using from lvl1 to lvl54 the shoulders =/ |
| 01:48.29 | bleeter | lol @ dismissing lifebloom |
| 01:48.41 | mikma | i really hope the pant-enchant still works |
| 01:48.44 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16409620953&sid=1 |
| 01:48.55 | Arrowmaster | anybody know whats up with that? |
| 01:49.01 | mikma | hey whats the deal with lifebloom |
| 01:49.01 | ZorbaTHut | I do like the comments I'm getting saying "I can't download from Curse right now, what should I do" |
| 01:49.04 | bleeter | mikma: someone was bitching in /trade that it doesn't |
| 01:49.10 | ZorbaTHut | I dunno, try again? I don't run their servers, there's not a lot I can do about it |
| 01:49.23 | mikma | some people are saying lifebloom has some funky thing in it? |
| 01:49.36 | bleeter | dismiss it while it's rolling |
| 01:49.42 | bleeter | (a) mana returned to caster (b) it'll bloom |
| 01:49.49 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaTHut: getting emails? |
| 01:50.08 | mikma | how can you dismiss lifebloom? |
| 01:50.18 | ZorbaTHut | arrow, no, on the curse.com page |
| 01:50.21 | Etanol | :D :D :D :D |
| 01:50.43 | bleeter | mikma: rightclick on the buff |
| 01:51.13 | mikma | mmkay, so which one will happen, a or b |
| 01:52.00 | Etanol | depens on the radiaton levels |
| 01:53.20 | mikma | boom |
| 01:53.21 | Etanol | ~time |
| 01:53.21 | purl | 2009.04.15 1:53:21 GMT |
| 01:53.23 | bleeter | mikma: (c) a+b |
| 01:53.43 | Etanol | lua> print(os.time) |
| 01:53.43 | lua_bot | Etanol: function: 0x806b510 |
| 01:53.48 | Etanol | lua> print(os.time()) |
| 01:53.49 | lua_bot | Etanol: 1239760428 |
| 01:53.55 | mikma | general motors time |
| 01:54.29 | Etanol | lua> print("The time is now: "..os.time().." o'clock.") |
| 01:54.30 | lua_bot | Etanol: The time is now: 1239760469 o'clock. |
| 01:55.24 | Etanol | giggles |
| 01:55.40 | Etanol | patch in 6-7 hours |
| 01:56.11 | Etanol | wake up -> rebuild addons folder -> explore the new stuff -> o hai :D:D |
| 01:56.18 | mikma | ~etanol |
| 01:56.48 | mikma | purl: etanol is <reply> Just drink it. It's ok! Trust me! |
| 01:56.48 | purl | mikma: okay |
| 01:57.04 | Etanol | ~etanol |
| 01:57.04 | purl | Just drink it. It's ok! Trust me! |
| 01:57.12 | Etanol | haha ;D |
| 01:57.18 | mikma | or.. |
| 01:57.26 | mikma | "fixes the problem of seeing eyes" |
| 01:57.37 | Etanol | I don't get it |
| 01:57.48 | Thunder_Child | neither do i |
| 01:57.51 | Legorol | you go blind if you drink ethanol |
| 01:57.56 | Etanol | I know |
| 01:57.57 | mikma | drink it aznd you'll go blind (afaik) |
| 01:58.01 | Etanol | ahaaa |
| 01:58.13 | Etanol | it's professional though |
| 01:58.15 | Etanol | makes you prooo! |
| 01:58.17 | Etanol | then blind |
| 01:58.25 | Etanol | Professionalism at a high cost |
| 01:58.29 | mikma | coolmode = "blind" |
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| 01:59.02 | mikma | but atleast one got it, thanks legorol! |
| 01:59.24 | Etanol | ~mikma++ |
| 01:59.28 | Etanol | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.29 | ZorbaTHut | alright, next push I'm going to have it test for WoW 3.2.0 or higher and refuse to run |
| 01:59.44 | Legorol | lol, what? |
| 01:59.46 | ZorbaTHut | "I don't have the newest version at all and it doesn't work on WoW 3.1, what's going on and how can I fix it" |
| 01:59.48 | bleeter | wut?! |
| 01:59.51 | ZorbaTHut | I can already tell this is going to be a problem :P |
| 01:59.54 | netcurse | We are adding a 1 gb/s pipe in the curse server farm right now, already using 2gb/s... sorry for the slowness. |
| 02:00.06 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: FIX EET NAO! |
| 02:00.15 | ZorbaTHut | in the future questhelper will only run on WoW versions that I specifically permit it to >:( |
| 02:00.16 | mikma | nao xD |
| 02:00.23 | Etanol | netcurse: how many file servers are there? |
| 02:00.25 | Legorol | ZorbaTHut: welcome to standard Luser error. It should probably be the top of all FAQs: get the latest version, goddarn it! |
| 02:00.33 | mikma | yey for Questfailer! |
| 02:00.50 | ZorbaTHut | legorol, in fairness, at least a few of them are "QH doesn't run, I can't download it because the curse.com servers are nuked, got any suggestions" |
| 02:00.58 | Etanol | ~Ducktales |
| 02:01.02 | Legorol | netcurse: i don't think the authors in here are particularly impatient, you don't need to apologise to us :) |
| 02:01.13 | Legorol | most people in here would know how these things work and won't expect much on patch day |
| 02:01.27 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaTHut: tell them wait until they can download from curse, until then shut the fuck up and leave you alone |
| 02:01.47 | mikma | purl: ducktales is <reply> woo-oo-o! |
| 02:01.48 | purl | okay, mikma |
| 02:02.05 | Etanol | damn |
| 02:02.08 | MentalPower | netcurse: thats more bandwidth than my ISP has for all its customers... |
| 02:02.08 | Etanol | you were faster |
| 02:02.37 | mikma | etanol: you can change it to better one if you want |
| 02:02.48 | mikma | ~mikma |
| 02:02.49 | purl | it has been said that mikma is an agitator but i love him anyway. also a whiner. |
| 02:02.51 | MentalPower | (100k+ customers) |
| 02:03.06 | netcurse | yeah wow patch days are crazy |
| 02:03.15 | netcurse | 3.0 used 4 pipes of 1gb/s |
| 02:03.16 | mikma | ~emulate mikma |
| 02:03.16 | purl | Industrial loves manboobs! |
| 02:03.33 | mikma | enuff said |
| 02:03.34 | Etanol | purl, slap mikma |
| 02:03.35 | purl | ACTION slaps mikma, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 02:03.37 | Legorol | ~emulate Legorol |
| 02:03.38 | purl | ACTION doesn't stop talking to himself |
| 02:03.42 | End | uh shit |
| 02:03.45 | Legorol | rofl |
| 02:03.46 | End | drain soul doesn't work |
| 02:03.47 | End | it's broken |
| 02:03.50 | End | I can't gain more soul shards |
| 02:03.55 | End | I'm at 30 |
| 02:03.56 | Etanol | bag spaec? |
| 02:03.57 | Arrowmaster | oh god |
| 02:03.57 | End | and counting down |
| 02:04.06 | End | at first I thought it didn't work because I had 32 |
| 02:04.11 | Legorol | wow |
| 02:04.11 | End | but I have less than that |
| 02:04.15 | Etanol | mob level? |
| 02:04.19 | Etanol | your level? |
| 02:04.23 | End | archevon trash mobs? |
| 02:04.24 | Arrowmaster | thats like a game breaking bug |
| 02:04.26 | Legorol | End: didn't they add some special shard management thingy this patch? |
| 02:04.32 | End | sort of |
| 02:04.33 | End | max 32 shards |
| 02:04.37 | End | but I have less than 32 |
| 02:04.38 | Legorol | right |
| 02:04.39 | mikma | etanol: does it need to be a killing blow |
| 02:04.40 | Etanol | relog now |
| 02:04.47 | Legorol | still, you shouldn't need a relog |
| 02:04.57 | ZorbaTHut | new shard management? what'd they do? |
| 02:04.57 | Etanol | wow tends to unbug you at relog :) |
| 02:05.01 | Etanol | in my experience, that is |
| 02:05.11 | Legorol | End: you tried nuking the holy trinity, right? |
| 02:05.20 | Legorol | although that's unlikely to fix it |
| 02:05.27 | End | I'll try |
| 02:06.09 | Legorol | ZorbaTHut: i wasn't paying attention, but something about shards not needing to be kept in bags anymore |
| 02:06.14 | Legorol | however you are limited to 32 of them |
| 02:06.37 | mikma | stacks? |
| 02:06.44 | End | I have 30 |
| 02:06.53 | Etanol | maybe they will go down to 0, at which point they will start spawning in the new interface? |
| 02:06.55 | Legorol | from what i heard, it just doesn't go into bag anymore, it's liek a currency |
| 02:06.56 | bleeter | isn't it that the shards are now created per proc |
| 02:07.04 | Legorol | End: how does it work in practice? |
| 02:07.05 | bleeter | hmmm |
| 02:07.07 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:07.13 | ZorbaTHut | nice |
| 02:07.16 | Etanol | spew? |
| 02:07.28 | Etanol | ~spew |
| 02:07.29 | purl | spew is, like, to vomit |
| 02:07.30 | mikma | tekkub's addon, get it nao! |
| 02:07.36 | Etanol | ON IT!!!! |
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| 02:07.52 | End | I don't need to call GIC to tell how many I have :P |
| 02:08.02 | End | I have one shard in the bank, and 29 in my soulshard bag |
| 02:08.07 | Etanol | servers down |
| 02:08.12 | End | (dunno why the fuck I have a shard in the bank) |
| 02:08.27 | Etanol | End: are they only in your bag now? |
| 02:08.36 | Legorol | End: could you explain to the curious rest of us if shards still use bag or not? |
| 02:08.47 | Legorol | or how does it work |
| 02:08.48 | End | they still use bag |
| 02:08.48 | End | but |
| 02:08.58 | Etanol | End: remove all your shards, and then try to get 1 |
| 02:09.00 | mikma | delete them all! |
| 02:09.12 | Etanol | nuke! |
| 02:09.15 | Etanol | truncate shards! |
| 02:09.20 | Etanol | set shards to nil! |
| 02:09.22 | Legorol | lol, he'll be left with 0 and unable to drain |
| 02:09.26 | Legorol | that'll be fun :) |
| 02:09.31 | End | drain soul ALSO has a chance to proc shards on damage tick |
| 02:09.35 | End | and limited to 32 |
| 02:09.37 | mikma | legorol: shuss you! |
| 02:09.40 | End | which is the size of my bag |
| 02:09.41 | End | and yeah |
| 02:09.43 | Etanol | limited to 32 per tick? |
| 02:09.48 | End | total |
| 02:09.49 | Etanol | ;) |
| 02:09.51 | End | in my bags! |
| 02:09.56 | Etanol | did you try to remove thaem? |
| 02:10.07 | Legorol | ah so i heard wrong, they didn't change the storage mechanism? |
| 02:10.44 | End | they did not change storage |
| 02:10.50 | Arrowmaster | so hunters dont have quivers now right? |
| 02:11.06 | ZorbaTHut | arrow, you can still use 'em, but it's sort of silly to do so |
| 02:11.10 | End | hunters stack to 1k |
| 02:11.16 | End | and quiver is gone |
| 02:11.18 | ZorbaTHut | and they don't give a haste bonus anymore |
| 02:11.20 | End | er, ammo stacks to 1k |
| 02:11.25 | Dagmar | WEll, if you'd like to carry enough ammo to last you the rest of the year |
| 02:11.35 | ZorbaTHut | whoa, I'm taking a thousand hunters on my next raid, if they stack like that |
| 02:11.38 | Arrowmaster | see if i still played i would be pissed since i played a warlock |
| 02:11.50 | ZorbaTHut | I don't know why they don't just make soul shards stack |
| 02:11.53 | ZorbaTHut | I mean, problem solved, gg |
| 02:12.12 | Arrowmaster | instead they put a limit of 32 on them |
| 02:12.14 | Dagmar | Because Warlocks don't take a 15% DPS hit if they don't use a soul bag |
| 02:12.31 | mikma | I got myself a small macro that always deletes extra shards |
| 02:12.33 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: neither do hunters now |
| 02:12.38 | mikma | always aims to keep 5 |
| 02:12.42 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: But they did before and always did |
| 02:12.46 | mikma | macro = function |
| 02:12.49 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 02:12.50 | ZorbaTHut | dagmar, by that logic they could have just fixed the haste issue and left the ammo stacking the same, though |
| 02:12.56 | ZorbaTHut | they were trying to fix ammo stacking as well in this patch |
| 02:13.07 | kneeki | Anyone happen to know what event is fired when the player switches specs via dual spec? |
| 02:13.09 | mikma | haste: you are an issue |
| 02:13.09 | Dagmar | ZorbaTHut: Not all ammo bags give the same haste. ahem |
| 02:13.31 | Arrowmaster | all ammo bags after like lvl 40 did |
| 02:13.49 | Dagmar | Ah well that changes everything, obviously |
| 02:13.49 | mikma | [ammo]_: how's your bags? |
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| 02:14.45 | Dagmar | With the exception of times when a lock has to summon every idiot in his guild because they can't find the instance, warlocks could always get more shards as they went along |
| 02:14.51 | Dagmar | That's never been the case for hunters |
| 02:15.05 | ZorbaTHut | well, let's see if I can tolerate the current auctioneer version |
| 02:15.29 | Legorol | i can tolerate it quite well... it helps me roll in gold coins ) |
| 02:15.58 | ZorbaTHut | last I checked, btmscan was completely broken and searchui, the "replacement", was vastly inferior for my purposes |
| 02:16.34 | mikma | you have been trying the suite |
| 02:17.14 | ZorbaTHut | yes, but there's no separate download for btmscan anymore (that I've found, at least) |
| 02:17.28 | Arrowmaster | you know i think my isp actually raised the upload cap, too bad its almost impossible to find out what exactly it is |
| 02:18.16 | kneeki | Anyone have the Lua/XML change site address? I need to check on some new events |
| 02:18.32 | Arrowmaster | ~framexml |
| 02:18.33 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 02:18.45 | Torhal | Ouch. Just read about the Voidwalker health nerf. Harsh. |
| 02:18.45 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: that's the wonderful thing about open source GPL projects. you can always submit a diff |
| 02:18.48 | kneeki | Arrowmaster: Thanks =) |
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| 02:19.04 | ZorbaTHut | bleeter, sure, but I'd rather not have to |
| 02:19.07 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: hell, there's some addon author who was bitching at us for months for some API thing that was absolutely necessary for sane operation of addon |
| 02:19.08 | Legorol | ugh, how much they nerfed it by? |
| 02:19.12 | Legorol | the voidwalker that is |
| 02:19.16 | bleeter | that as far as we can see is only used by one person |
| 02:19.17 | Arrowmaster | btmscan was removed by request of blizzard though |
| 02:19.21 | ZorbaTHut | plus, with my experiences submitting diffs to auctioneer in the past, I'd *really* rather not have to |
| 02:19.27 | Torhal | Health bonus reduced from 60% to 10% |
| 02:19.28 | ZorbaTHut | arrow, the original version, yes? not the current version |
| 02:19.51 | Legorol | Torhal: is that big enough to make VW tanking Sarth impossible? |
| 02:19.59 | Legorol | if so, my guild will start failing again on 3D :/ |
| 02:20.19 | Arrowmaster | so i turned off QoS on my router and have the patch torrent running using the bliz client |
| 02:20.26 | Arrowmaster | web surfing is broken |
| 02:20.30 | Torhal | Dunno, honestly, but 10% from 60% sounds pretty damn harsh. |
| 02:20.54 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: oh well, I guess if I can't convince you an Nechckn/norganna/mentalpower et al to work together can't do much can I ;) |
| 02:21.51 | Legorol | gnight folks, have a happy patch day :) |
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| 02:22.39 | Etanol | honesty or white lies? |
| 02:22.42 | Etanol | vote |
| 02:22.52 | Hjalte | honesty |
| 02:22.56 | mikma | lies |
| 02:23.10 | Shirik | welp |
| 02:23.12 | Shirik | my character is broke |
| 02:23.21 | Etanol | delete it and start a new one |
| 02:23.26 | Shirik | ... no |
| 02:23.28 | Etanol | ;) |
| 02:23.33 | mikma | shirik: haahaa |
| 02:23.42 | Shirik | I get to 100% loading and DC |
| 02:23.44 | Shirik | for 20 minutes now |
| 02:23.47 | ZorbaTHut | it looks like it works better now, though still not perfect |
| 02:23.50 | Shirik | we were going to do Ulduar but so much for that |
| 02:23.51 | ZorbaTHut | still, acceptable, though irritating |
| 02:24.11 | Etanol | how's dualspec? |
| 02:24.22 | ZorbaTHut | close enough that I might go hack on it and submit a patch (and, if experience is accurate, then go fork it and post my own version :P) |
| 02:24.54 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: can you point me to your forum post/jira ticket etc. where you've submitted before? |
| 02:24.59 | ZorbaTHut | etanol, seems nice. the spec changes mean that I don't know what to spec for arms yet, so I haven't tried it yet |
| 02:25.07 | bleeter | i might be able to get a handle on what you're talking about then, and poke people |
| 02:25.10 | ZorbaTHut | bleeter, you can probably find it better than I can - username "zorbathut", it was a while back |
| 02:25.12 | ZorbaTHut | it got accepted finally |
| 02:25.16 | bleeter | as it stands right now you've not told me anything that helps |
| 02:25.26 | ZorbaTHut | but only because I happened to run into someone who worked on Auctioneer who was asking me for help |
| 02:25.38 | ZorbaTHut | and I helped him out then told him to go get my damn patch integrated :P |
| 02:26.10 | Hirsute | ZorbaTHut: What about Auctioneer? |
| 02:26.11 | bleeter | ok so you're now bitching about something that's broken that you've not actually mentioned in jira/forums? |
| 02:26.22 | bleeter | I'm really trying to work out what the issue is, zorba, so I can help |
| 02:26.28 | bleeter | but it's impossible on current info you've given |
| 02:26.48 | ZorbaTHut | dude, give me some credit here ;) if you want a detailed explanation I'll give it, but I've given it before and have kind of gotten blown off |
| 02:27.02 | ZorbaTHut | but if you want to know the problem, lemme think for a sec on how to best describe it |
| 02:27.09 | bleeter | Dude, give me some creadit. I may not ahve been logged in. |
| 02:27.19 | bleeter | dude, give me some credit. if it's not in jira/forums etc. |
| 02:27.27 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I'm not talking about you specifically here, I haven't had trouble with you |
| 02:27.31 | Dagmar | Give me some credit. I need more ale and whores. |
| 02:27.42 | ZorbaTHut | I've run into rocky stuff with mentalpower and someone else (don't remember who) and that kind of soured me on the entire plugin |
| 02:28.17 | ZorbaTHut | alright, so, lemme quickly describe my standard technique here, before searchui |
| 02:28.35 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: could you please post to forums/jira so the problem can be properly tracked? |
| 02:28.47 | ZorbaTHut | sure, any suggestion on which? |
| 02:28.55 | ZorbaTHut | the only problem right now seems to be a weird efficiency bug |
| 02:28.59 | bleeter | if you're just going to mention it in passing and hope that chinese whispers will get it written down accurately and proerly examined |
| 02:29.05 | Etanol | ~bacon |
| 02:29.06 | purl | bacon is probably a filling substance which will make you even fatter than you already are... Take my advice, bacon is a food for the gods or for underweight models such as that McBeal chick... |
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| 02:29.14 | ZorbaTHut | as I said, irritating, but not a huge issue until it annoys me a lot more at which point I'd probably look into it myself |
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| 02:29.30 | Etanol | bows |
| 02:29.48 | ScytheBlade1 | okay, wow |
| 02:29.48 | ScytheBlade1 | http://notalwaysright.com/rage-against-the-earless-machine/1813 |
| 02:30.13 | ZorbaTHut | scythe, some people just need to get angry once in a while, I guess |
| 02:30.41 | Etanol | How |
| 02:30.42 | Etanol | is |
| 02:30.43 | Etanol | dualspec |
| 02:30.49 | ZorbaTHut | etanol, it's neat |
| 02:30.56 | Etanol | awesome. |
| 02:30.56 | ZorbaTHut | I need to find a good arms or fury spec |
| 02:31.09 | Etanol | for pvp or pve? |
| 02:31.16 | ZorbaTHut | pve, I want to try dpsing |
| 02:31.21 | Etanol | go for fury |
| 02:31.23 | ZorbaTHut | it sounds so easy |
| 02:31.27 | ZorbaTHut | fury got nerfed hardcore in 3.1 |
| 02:31.37 | ZorbaTHut | and arms got buffed |
| 02:31.40 | ZorbaTHut | the jury's out on which is better now |
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| 02:31.47 | Etanol | that was to make arms viable in PVP |
| 02:31.54 | ZorbaTHut | although if it's a tossup I'll probably got fury just because I get to wield more weapons that way, and more = better amirite |
| 02:31.55 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: personally, I'd recommend Jira. Clearly that'd be more appropriate place for bug/enhancement requests |
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| 02:32.17 | ScytheBlade1 | meh |
| 02:32.26 | ScytheBlade1 | good ol' bugzilla is awesome for most stuff |
| 02:32.53 | Etanol | ZorbaTHut: copy a spec from some pro fury warrior, and then use recount to analyze your performance, along with wits to analyze your rotation |
| 02:33.00 | AnduinLothar | What's normal LoH cooldown? |
| 02:33.03 | Hirsute | ScytheBlade1: Perhaps, but that's not an option for filing tickets for Auctioneer. |
| 02:33.05 | ZorbaTHut | etanol, that's the other problem - the specs changed enough that I can't just copy a 3.0 spec |
| 02:33.07 | Etanol | with that, you can gain a very good understanding of the tree to |
| 02:33.08 | Etanol | too |
| 02:33.10 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: I get lost inside bugzilla |
| 02:33.17 | Aqua | some one take a look at http://wowuidev.pastey.net/112319 and telll me what i'm doing wrong cause its really pissing me off |
| 02:33.18 | Funkeh` | I hate 500s just as you're uploading an addon |
| 02:33.19 | Etanol | oh, right, slipped my mind |
| 02:33.24 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: I've asked around, an no one recalls purposefully 'blowing you off'... if you'd like to try the Jira root, we may be able to help :) |
| 02:33.26 | Funkeh` | always think the world is going to end |
| 02:33.27 | ZorbaTHut | and all the "spec sites" are linking to new specs with the old spec talent layouts, which makes them . . . less than useful |
| 02:33.30 | Iriel | We use Jira at work, it's pretty nice |
| 02:33.37 | bleeter | route |
| 02:33.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Hirsute: ah |
| 02:33.59 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: I did too. Then I installed it myself, and in about 10 minutes of poking around the admin options, everything made sense. |
| 02:34.02 | Etanol | try mmo-champion forums |
| 02:34.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Admittedly, that may not be an option |
| 02:34.19 | Hirsute | Meh, we just have Jira running really well, and are quite happy with it. |
| 02:34.20 | Etanol | I think I will go get some sleep |
| 02:34.23 | ZorbaTHut | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#LV0Gdfht0fMRzrkdZh <-- call me crazy but I'm pretty sure the most popular arms spec is not taking Iron Will at the expense of Improved Rend and Improved Heroic Strike |
| 02:34.27 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: it might, once I delve deeper into MacOSX's Unix roots |
| 02:34.29 | Etanol | even though, I need food (bacon) |
| 02:34.37 | ScytheBlade1 | My problem really isn't with Jira, but rather the licensing |
| 02:34.54 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: nothing to it. It is standard perl with a database. Turn on CGI scripts in apache/whatever, you're done |
| 02:34.54 | ZorbaTHut | bleeter, gimme a few days to play with it and see if I can figure out what's going on |
| 02:34.57 | Trela | Aqua: You are setting your panel name to the version number? |
| 02:35.05 | ZorbaTHut | there's some glitch here, but it might be configuration, or it might be easily fixable |
| 02:35.18 | Aqua | you mean 30100? |
| 02:35.25 | Aqua | yea, the rest of my addon loads, and runs fine |
| 02:35.26 | ZorbaTHut | well there's at least one I can mention, right now it's scanning page 247 of 222 and I think that's probably a bug ;) |
| 02:35.36 | Trela | I mean GetAddOnMetadata("Cloak", "Version");. |
| 02:35.47 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: I'm sure if we can put up with tekkub's tirades against us for an 'essential' API call that would appear to only ever be used by him, we can find some accomodation with you ;) |
| 02:35.56 | Aqua | ooo, I was trying to pull the version info of my addon |
| 02:35.59 | Hirsute | >.> |
| 02:36.05 | ZorbaTHut | alright, I'll see what I can manage. Remind me in a week if I haven't posted something and you remember :) |
| 02:36.07 | Dagmar | IsLeapDay() |
| 02:36.20 | Trela | Assuming you did not mean to? :P |
| 02:36.23 | Dagmar | Obviously a boolean, just as obviously incredibly essential to operation. |
| 02:37.14 | Aqua | yea |
| 02:37.15 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: aye, installing apache is my "delving into unix roots" (overly dramatic I know) :P |
| 02:37.16 | Aqua | that was a mistake |
| 02:37.20 | Aqua | not what i wanted |
| 02:37.28 | Iriel | MentalPower: Apache2 is installed by default on 10.5 |
| 02:37.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 02:37.33 | ScytheBlade1 | What Iriel said ;) |
| 02:37.38 | MentalPower | rly? |
| 02:37.42 | MentalPower | I didn't know that |
| 02:37.43 | Aqua | woudn't you know, fixed my own issue when you pointed that out |
| 02:37.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Edit a config file, add a single line ("Options +ExecCGI") |
| 02:37.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Done |
| 02:38.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, maybe start the daemon |
| 02:38.02 | Zootfizzle[1] | Okay |
| 02:38.19 | Zootfizzle[1] | In case anybody was wondering, I wanted to let you know that the patch will be Soon (TM) |
| 02:38.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Zootfizzle[1]: I never thought I'd see the day where you are imitaing me |
| 02:38.29 | ScytheBlade1 | (re: trailing 1 on the nick ;)) |
| 02:38.46 | Zootfizzle | :P |
| 02:38.50 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
| 02:38.50 | Thunder_Child | soon huh? |
| 02:38.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Too easy |
| 02:38.51 | bleeter | Zootfizzle[1]: WHAT DID YOU DO WITH MY MATH RANDOMSEED??? |
| 02:38.55 | bleeter | bah oops caps |
| 02:39.06 | Aqua | Trela: Thank You. |
| 02:39.06 | ScytheBlade1 | and heh, I have to admit |
| 02:39.07 | Iriel | it's dead |
| 02:39.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I laighed at Soon (TM) |
| 02:39.13 | ScytheBlade1 | *laughed |
| 02:39.14 | Dagmar | bleeter: You think maybe they simply decided it didn't make sense for people to set a seed? :) |
| 02:39.17 | Iriel | it was supposed to be dead a while ago |
| 02:39.18 | bleeter | did you et it with flavabeans? |
| 02:39.28 | Iriel | but apparently someone forgot to remove it |
| 02:39.29 | Zootfizzle | bleeter: It occurred to me that if you could make something random in a specific way, it was no longer random |
| 02:39.39 | Trela | Trela: Have a Lisa Franks sticker. *Gives a unicorn!* |
| 02:39.41 | Dagmar | I suppose there could be a use for it if you were running a casino |
| 02:39.47 | Trela | Trela: You FAIL! |
| 02:39.54 | Trela | Aqua: You are welcome. |
| 02:39.55 | ZorbaTHut | the curse.com admins would probably kill me if I pushed a new version of QH right now, wouldn't they |
| 02:39.57 | Dagmar | OMG did I say that out loud? |
| 02:40.11 | ScytheBlade1 | ZorbaTHut: good thing you give them ad revenue! |
| 02:41.06 | Trela | The crappy thing is that I almost setup a randomseed for chat channel communication, but opted for another method instead. |
| 02:42.36 | bleeter | Zootfizzle: uh? Pi is pseudorandom, you going to remove that too? :P |
| 02:42.38 | Shirik | what purpose could you possibly have for seeding the rng? |
| 02:42.52 | Shirik | bleeter: Pi is not random |
| 02:43.04 | kd3 | looks at ti-89's 'random' generator |
| 02:43.11 | Nuckin | woot, WoWI is under load and dying /cry |
| 02:43.11 | bleeter | Shirik: I didn't say it was |
| 02:43.16 | kd3 | where in the book they showed an example of setting the seed to get the same number every time |
| 02:44.02 | Hirsute | Probably WoWMatrix DOSing them for breaking their business model. |
| 02:44.06 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:44.22 | kd3 | lol: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?sid=1&topicId=16418681756#4 |
| 02:44.24 | Shirik | Problem is we have 1 server and lots of users :) |
| 02:45.32 | Dagmar | Shirik: Casino is now open! Get on the bank and ROOOOL! 1-64 house wins, 65-97 double your money, 98-100 TRIPLE PAYOUT! Come one come all! |
| 02:45.45 | Shirik | but don't they do /roll for that? |
| 02:45.49 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: YEA |
| 02:45.50 | bleeter | Dagmar: 5 more days of that being a legit advert |
| 02:45.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoohoo |
| 02:45.54 | Shirik | Anyone who's willing to participate in that and not do /roll is a moron |
| 02:46.01 | Dagmar | bleeter: They're formally stomping it on US? Good. |
| 02:46.15 | Dagmar | I'm tired of having to ignore 3-4 new names every damn time I go near a bank |
| 02:46.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh man, I just noticed Zarhym's signature |
| 02:46.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Suddenly I love the guy |
| 02:46.45 | bleeter | why doesn't he have a title in hi sigblock? |
| 02:46.54 | bleeter | I thought all blues had to have job titles in sigblocks these days |
| 02:47.02 | bleeter | i guess zar's uber :) |
| 02:48.35 | Shirik | who wants to respond to this guy |
| 02:48.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 02:48.42 | Shirik | ".../I also don't believe they've been filtering out donation code. But, if they had - GOOD!. It's against TOS now...." |
| 02:48.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Man |
| 02:48.52 | ScytheBlade1 | You know |
| 02:49.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I need to be given moderator rights on some forums |
| 02:49.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Log every action, I don't care |
| 02:49.09 | ScytheBlade1 | They would be -clean- |
| 02:49.20 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 02:49.21 | Shirik | It would be unfair for me to act on this post |
| 02:49.21 | Funkeh` | urg |
| 02:49.27 | Funkeh` | 500s making updating addons anightmare |
| 02:49.34 | Funkeh` | had to do this one twice :/ |
| 02:49.34 | Cairenn|afk | :( |
| 02:49.37 | Nuckin | Anyone been to ulduar and down anything yet? |
| 02:49.42 | Shirik | Nuckin: I went to ulduar |
| 02:49.44 | Shadowed | not bad |
| 02:49.45 | Shirik | I downed myself |
| 02:49.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Funkeh`: it'll die down in a few hours |
| 02:49.48 | Shadowed | WoWI lasted most of the day |
| 02:49.49 | Shirik | And the server |
| 02:49.52 | Dagmar | Id' be sending out about 50 mails a day saying "Your post was deleted because you were trolling. At least be a man about it. See you in three days." |
| 02:49.53 | Shadowed | Funkeh`, you should have updated yesterday :P |
| 02:49.54 | ScytheBlade1 | few as in 1-2, with any luck |
| 02:49.55 | Shirik | I can't log into my character anymore |
| 02:50.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Dagmar: that'd work |
| 02:50.09 | Funkeh` | Shadowed, I did the important ones yesterday |
| 02:50.11 | ZorbaTHut | I'm really looking forward to seeing Algalon the Raid Destroyer |
| 02:50.15 | Funkeh` | and left the 5million data brokers for today |
| 02:50.17 | Funkeh` | le sigh |
| 02:50.33 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: Except for the bit that after the third time, any record that they were ever a customer will Blizzard would disappear, forever. |
| 02:51.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Dagmar: part of it is my inability to post on the forums. Something about needing an active account. I'm sure if I could rail on these people, I would have less desire to ban every stupid person I see |
| 02:51.30 | ScytheBlade1 | No I take that back |
| 02:51.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I just want to weild the banstick |
| 02:51.42 | ScytheBlade1 | 30m is all I'm asking |
| 02:51.46 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 02:51.52 | Nuckin | Shirik: get anything done? instance servers for my realm are lagging out |
| 02:51.56 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Problem is, with moderator privileges comes the responsibility to be unbiased |
| 02:52.06 | kd3 | oh? |
| 02:52.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: quiet you, ruining my dreams |
| 02:52.06 | Shirik | Nuckin: I managed to get my character locked out of playing |
| 02:52.10 | Shirik | if you count that as "done" |
| 02:52.21 | Shirik | This is why I asked if anyone else wants to respond, ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:52.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd love to but I can't post :( |
| 02:52.54 | Shirik | why not? |
| 02:52.54 | kneeki | ~framexml |
| 02:52.55 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 02:53.01 | Dagmar | A bias would require one troll be hated less than another. |
| 02:53.41 | ScytheBlade1 | sec |
| 02:53.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/misc/money.png |
| 02:53.59 | ScytheBlade1 | That is why |
| 02:54.09 | Shirik | what does that have to do with anything? |
| 02:54.16 | ScytheBlade1 | No account = no posting? |
| 02:54.58 | Shirik | it's on wowi fool |
| 02:55.10 | ScytheBlade1 | oh |
| 02:55.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 02:55.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Let me at em' |
| 02:55.14 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: this post? http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/8173 note that a core developer asked you to file Jira tickets. As far as we can see, you never did. So I really don't see how Auctioneer are at fault |
| 02:55.48 | ZorbaTHut | bleeter, I don't think I did because someone else did :P |
| 02:56.15 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: so which one of those four, then? |
| 02:56.28 | bleeter | or one/s |
| 02:56.35 | ZorbaTHut | http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-135 <-- here's the one I posted that got basically ignored, I tried bringing it to people's attentions for a while with no luck |
| 02:56.57 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: right, one that's not mentioned in that thread at all |
| 02:57.05 | ZorbaTHut | yes, it's a completely unrelated error |
| 02:57.29 | ZorbaTHut | that first one was the first frustrating one, and the one that kind of made me less interested in pursuing stuff in the first place |
| 02:58.13 | bleeter | well as far as I see it was fixed and closed in two weeks |
| 02:58.25 | ZorbaTHut | look at when it was created |
| 02:58.25 | bleeter | oh my bad |
| 02:58.30 | bleeter | two weeks after your last comment |
| 02:58.50 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, and the only reason it got fixed then is because I ran into someone completely accidentally in another IRC channel and we got to talking about WoW |
| 02:59.50 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: unlike you, we don't have our google shares to sit back on. nor do we have $$ earned from ingame donation support so we can retire and work fulltime on our addons. |
| 03:00.10 | ZorbaTHut | http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-334 and http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-335 were the two big issues that got posted in that thread - they've both been fixed since, but it took a while |
| 03:00.31 | ZorbaTHut | sure, but when I provide a fix, would it really be that hard to just check it in? |
| 03:00.37 | bleeter | so the support and fixes we do are in our own time as we can. I guess you can fork and stuff if it's really that hard for you to create an account and help out because you're so busy with your dividends |
| 03:00.54 | ZorbaTHut | especially if I'm sitting there and talking to the guy in IRC at the time, I could've answered any questions needed |
| 03:01.08 | ZorbaTHut | alright, I think I'm done with this conversation when it gets personal. |
| 03:01.30 | bleeter | mehm, you started out on how shit the auctioneer folks were /shrug |
| 03:02.03 | Dewin | Why do the strange and interesting problems always happen to me :-/ |
| 03:02.25 | Thunder_Child | http://fukung.net/v/12878/64718b3bf510515ad40208d19ac9fabd.jpg W T F |
| 03:08.09 | *** join/#wowuidev JackBurton76761 (n=JackBurt@81.90.21.227) |
| 03:08.23 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: Yeah, someone's got a lot of free time and a strange imagination |
| 03:09.17 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: wow |
| 03:10.01 | tem | For the record: I hate vehicle fights |
| 03:10.29 | tekkub | for the record we hate your vehicle piloting skills |
| 03:10.34 | Nuckin | anyone else having issues with their quest logs? my alt loses changes on logout |
| 03:10.37 | tekkub | or lack thereof |
| 03:10.40 | ScytheBlade1 | psst, for anyone who has steam |
| 03:10.42 | ScytheBlade1 | http://steamcommunity.com/groups/wowuidev |
| 03:10.58 | bleeter | I had steam... lost my password etc lol |
| 03:11.02 | tekkub | why do we need another community when we have IRC? |
| 03:11.08 | ScytheBlade1 | why not! |
| 03:11.22 | Nuckin | more communities = more awesomeness |
| 03:11.22 | tekkub | I mean, we're programmers, we're the only ones that use IRC |
| 03:11.29 | ScytheBlade1 | True |
| 03:11.38 | ScytheBlade1 | But just the same |
| 03:11.41 | ScytheBlade1 | http://steamcommunity.com/groups/wowuidev <------ |
| 03:11.41 | Arrowmaster | programmers and pirates |
| 03:11.47 | Arrowmaster | same thing with usenet |
| 03:12.15 | Aqua | and how many of those coexist in this same room? |
| 03:12.17 | Aqua | hmm? |
| 03:13.00 | Dewin | Anybody happen to know the script command to purchase dual talents? For some reason the trainer isn't working :-/ |
| 03:13.08 | Iriel | Wow, that logo is AWFUL |
| 03:13.11 | Dewin | (Is there one)? |
| 03:13.24 | ZorbaTHut | iriel, it's very factual, at least |
| 03:13.30 | ZorbaTHut | nobody will ever be confused about what that logo is for |
| 03:14.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: read the announcement :) |
| 03:14.28 | Arrowmaster | a few of you people need to set your steam url |
| 03:14.42 | Funkeh` | ScytheBlade1, I joined |
| 03:15.21 | bleeter | wtf |
| 03:15.42 | bleeter | i just brute forced my steam |
| 03:15.43 | bleeter | lolol |
| 03:15.55 | bleeter | well, not really... just edumacated guess |
| 03:16.09 | Iriel | I forgot my USERNAME, which was embarassing |
| 03:16.21 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 03:16.26 | ScytheBlade1 | You're not the first |
| 03:16.33 | ScytheBlade1 | (You can recover by e-mail) |
| 03:16.39 | Iriel | Luckily I didn't have many to pick from -- the perils of the 'remember my username' checkbox |
| 03:16.48 | Iriel | Oh, I did remember it in the end |
| 03:16.50 | Iriel | I'm in the group |
| 03:16.52 | Funkeh` | you know what's worse than that |
| 03:16.56 | Funkeh` | PEOPLE WITH NO AVATARS |
| 03:16.59 | Funkeh` | ARROWMASTER |
| 03:17.10 | Zyndrome | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 03:17.12 | Arrowmaster | i told you before |
| 03:17.27 | Arrowmaster | i dont have any avatars to use on these sites that wont get me banned |
| 03:17.35 | Iriel | I have no avatar either 8-) |
| 03:17.38 | Iriel | But I did set my name |
| 03:19.20 | ScytheBlade1 | How do you nap when it is 11:20 at night? |
| 03:20.07 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:20.44 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: Bong hits make everything possible. |
| 03:20.46 | Dagmar | Well, some things. |
| 03:20.55 | Dagmar | Naps, for sure. |
| 03:20.58 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:20.58 | Syzgyn | Heh, Ulduar went down |
| 03:21.37 | AnduinLothar | instance server said lolbye! |
| 03:21.43 | Shirik|Nap | ScytheBlade1: Being aware that you won't be able to go to sleep because you have to do stuff |
| 03:22.05 | Zyndrome | http://trinitychapelag.org/files/Missionettes/Rainbows.jpg , steamgroup logo suggestion |
| 03:22.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 03:22.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Stupid valid reason |
| 03:22.33 | Iriel | Dear god no |
| 03:22.57 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 03:23.02 | Funkeh` | wowuidev not wowhippies |
| 03:23.11 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:23.24 | kd3 | we should pull a d3 dev t-shirt stunt or something |
| 03:23.37 | Funkeh` | just put on the matrix scrolling code |
| 03:23.55 | ScytheBlade1 | That's borderline less inspired than my block of black text on a white background |
| 03:23.59 | Iriel | Ooh, double patch day, Sacred2 patch on steam too |
| 03:24.27 | AnduinLothar | goes to play braid |
| 03:24.28 | Iriel | AND Cogs was released |
| 03:24.30 | Iriel | oh happy day |
| 03:24.35 | kd3 | wtf, dazed off my flying mount? |
| 03:24.37 | AnduinLothar | ooo cogs |
| 03:24.39 | Iriel | As long as it doesn't suck anyway |
| 03:24.42 | Funkeh` | meh |
| 03:24.42 | kneeki | Anyone know the name of that addon which displays a huge icon when a spell's cooldown is ready? |
| 03:24.49 | Funkeh` | I got my 40k:DoW2 patch so I'm happy |
| 03:24.55 | Dagmar | Probably Power Auras |
| 03:25.12 | kneeki | Dagmar: thanks |
| 03:25.17 | geargrind | cogs? |
| 03:25.31 | AnduinLothar | wtb cogs 4 iphone |
| 03:25.41 | Iriel | geargrind: it's an interesting looking puzzle game, just launched today on steam |
| 03:26.18 | Iriel | www.lazy8studios.com |
| 03:28.34 | geargrind | wow... it's like the incredible machine meets pipe dream |
| 03:29.11 | kd3 | pipe dream? |
| 03:29.11 | kd3 | gah |
| 03:29.16 | kd3 | I had nightmares about that game as a kid |
| 03:30.49 | Zyndrome | suddenly, Ski Free ...... and still not so 'free' |
| 03:30.51 | Zyndrome | AAAA YETI |
| 03:32.32 | Cairenn|afk | just so you guys know, Dolby is restarting some services on WoWI, so if you get funky messages in the next little while, that's why |
| 03:32.39 | End | coo |
| 03:33.30 | Shirik|Nap | omg Dolby wtf chrome says wowinterface.com not found |
| 03:33.35 | Shirik|Nap | u got haxored ? |
| 03:33.36 | Shirik|Nap | 1 |
| 03:33.37 | Shirik|Nap | ! |
| 03:33.41 | Dagmar | Server response: 409 Yo Momma |
| 03:34.11 | Shirik|Nap | HTTP/1.1 GET / |
| 03:34.18 | Shirik|Nap | 409 I'll GET Yo Momma |
| 03:34.36 | Shirik|Nap | hrm |
| 03:34.41 | Shirik|Nap | what headers are supplied with that response? |
| 03:34.47 | Shirik|Nap | Location? |
| 03:34.58 | Dagmar | Lunch: Fried chicken and collard greens |
| 03:35.11 | Dagmar | Someday I suppose I should learn how to make those |
| 03:35.19 | Syzgyn | Anyone else getting 'Unable to Connect' when logging in? |
| 03:35.21 | Shirik|Nap | fried chicken? |
| 03:35.22 | Shirik|Nap | It's easy |
| 03:35.32 | Shirik|Nap | Step 1: Purchase fried chicken from supermarket freezer |
| 03:35.36 | Shirik|Nap | Step 2: Put in oven |
| 03:35.37 | Dagmar | No, collard greens. Chicken is easy to bread and spidce |
| 03:35.39 | Shirik|Nap | Step 3: Enjoy |
| 03:36.53 | kneeki | How do I go about finding which event fires when the player switches specs via dual spec? wowwiki is of no use =( |
| 03:37.41 | ZorbaTHut | kneeki, download devtools, turn it on, watch events :) |
| 03:37.57 | kneeki | what's the command to watch events? =\ |
| 03:38.21 | Iriel | It's /dtevents |
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| 03:38.38 | Shirik|Nap | really? I've always used /dteventtrace |
| 03:38.40 | kneeki | woo! |
| 03:38.42 | kneeki | thanks!! |
| 03:38.44 | Shirik|Nap | I use all the long names :( |
| 03:38.47 | End | what Shirik|Nap said :( |
| 03:39.15 | Shirik|Nap | And /dtchatevent |
| 03:39.18 | Shirik|Nap | and /dtframestack |
| 03:42.34 | tekkub | aw, Outland crashed |
| 03:42.43 | tekkub | I was selling like 4-5 glyphs a minute damnit |
| 03:43.52 | kd3 | gah, the argent tournament lances aren't icecrown-bound |
| 03:43.56 | kd3 | bah, I was appreciating that |
| 03:44.31 | sysrage | lol. all our instance servers crashed. makes me laugh at what they decide to go live with. i test hardware for a living. the difference between hardware and software QA is amazing |
| 03:44.52 | ZorbaTHut | sysrage, in fairness, that's because software is much easier to fix in the field :) |
| 03:45.04 | sysrage | i know. not really talking shit. it just makes me laugh |
| 03:45.06 | NightHawkTheSane | why am i still getting errors in tomtom thats supposed to be updated? >.> |
| 03:45.46 | bleeter | someone who thinks 'software is easier to fix in the field' has never really spent time working with machinery operated by PLCs etc. |
| 03:46.05 | bleeter | buckets of coders/engis could benefit from jsut 3 months of real world PLC and the like |
| 03:46.10 | sysrage | dunno about easier, but it's definitely cheaper |
| 03:46.23 | kd3 | cowers in fear |
| 03:46.27 | AbsolutRayne | Sigh |
| 03:46.31 | AbsolutRayne | Im going to kill my GM |
| 03:46.47 | Kaelten | omg what a fucking tool |
| 03:46.47 | Kaelten | http://www.curse.com/articles/curse-en-news/437537.aspx |
| 03:46.50 | Dagmar | Buy them an Arduino for Christmas |
| 03:47.00 | bleeter | eh, 'shutdown all cadbury chocolate manufacturing so we can recode one PLC.... but first we need to spend 6 hours scaping the choc off' |
| 03:47.01 | sysrage | buy me one |
| 03:47.09 | bleeter | scraping |
| 03:47.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaelten: which comment? |
| 03:47.30 | Kaelten | the first 15 or so saying fuck you |
| 03:47.34 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm going to go with the one-letter-per-post comment |
| 03:47.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ... oh wow |
| 03:47.51 | ZorbaTHut | bleeter, I'd call that some variety of firmware - "software that makes physical machines do things" is a bit different than, say, "alright reboot and it'll work this time" |
| 03:47.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Prime the shotgun |
| 03:48.05 | sysrage | ok, you're right bleeter. i generalized software too much. there's a big difference between game software code and low level firmware |
| 03:48.07 | ZorbaTHut | kaelten, haha, that's awesome |
| 03:48.12 | sysrage | lol.. what zorba said |
| 03:48.13 | ZorbaTHut | that guy is really, really angry |
| 03:48.44 | Dagmar | And pretty dumb |
| 03:48.55 | ZorbaTHut | hahahaha, the best part |
| 03:48.55 | ZorbaTHut | he started doing it backwards originally |
| 03:48.55 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 03:48.56 | Syzgyn | I love how my server is the only one that was offline :D |
| 03:48.57 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: my point being is if computing software coders took the same care with code that is used for manufacturer controller coding, etc. etc. |
| 03:48.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably a wowmatrix admin ;) |
| 03:49.04 | ZorbaTHut | he figured it out at the "y" |
| 03:49.05 | Shirik|Nap | Cairenn|afk is trying to get rid of me :( |
| 03:49.18 | Cairenn|afk | I'm trying to get you to go sleep |
| 03:49.57 | Dagmar | Looks like this is a post you should have just disabled comments on |
| 03:50.05 | Dagmar | It's just attracting trolls and shills. |
| 03:50.05 | sysrage | bleeter: that would be awesome. but it's not cost effective. i wish like hell it could happen, but it never will |
| 03:50.08 | Dagmar | Probably more than a few shills |
| 03:50.09 | ZorbaTHut | bleeter, then we'd have a lot less useful code out there ;) I know if I put the kind of time into QH that I would into an embedded hardware device, it'd do a tenth as much and it wouldn't work as well. that kind of quality is really expensive. |
| 03:51.10 | bleeter | QED |
| 03:51.35 | bleeter | thus we're condirtioned to accept crappy computing software, but not for manufacturing software |
| 03:51.42 | bleeter | -r |
| 03:52.04 | sysrage | that goes back to the age old comparison of car vs. software quality |
| 03:52.20 | sysrage | we'd all be dead if car QA was the same as software |
| 03:52.24 | bleeter | there's a reason that casino shops prefer to hire plc coders over computing coders |
| 03:53.43 | sysrage | i 100% agree with you, but do you realize how far back we'd be if every software shop had such high standards? |
| 03:54.12 | bleeter | sysrage: i have no idea how far back we'd be, but I'm near 100% certain no such thing as an Outlook Email Worm would have ever appeared ;) |
| 03:54.19 | sysrage | lol |
| 03:54.23 | bleeter | so being 'backwards' would be subjective |
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| 03:56.23 | geargrind | sighs at 17 minutes remaining |
| 03:56.28 | geargrind | (for the last 10 minutes) |
| 03:57.08 | sysrage | i disagree. the worm would still exist, it would just take longer to manifest since the software would take longer to be released. you know as well as anybody that there are always holes. always. forever. |
| 03:57.26 | Jamash | I just found a one-character bug in my addon :p |
| 03:58.25 | Jamash | I left ":" out of the class of characters that can occur in spell names |
| 03:58.25 | Dagmar | sysrage: No. |
| 03:58.25 | Shirik|Nap | sysrage: I actually have a lot of experience with car QA |
| 03:58.25 | ZorbaTHut | also, it's worth mentioning there have been entire classes of security vulnerabilities that were only discovered once someone fucked it up |
| 03:58.25 | Dagmar | There are not "always" holes. |
| 03:58.25 | ZorbaTHut | it's not like heavy QA would have solved, say, XSS |
| 03:58.25 | Dagmar | That's a sad-assed excuse for lousy coders. |
| 03:58.25 | Shirik|Nap | I've had training from GM on their simulators, etc. |
| 03:58.25 | Shirik|Nap | Their simulators are amazing, to say the least |
| 03:58.36 | Shirik|Nap | And there is a very strict (and interesting) QA process they follow |
| 03:59.20 | Shirik|Nap | However, I would point out that GM's process is actually a known software process, known as the "V model" |
| 03:59.22 | ZorbaTHut | dagmar, I disagree - modern programs are horrifyingly complex. it is impossible to prove that any large codebase is bugfree. If NASA can't keep their satellites free of bugs, nobody can write perfect code. |
| 03:59.46 | Dagmar | ZorbaTHut: You misread me. |
| 03:59.52 | Shirik|Nap | Problem is most generic software doesn't follow a standard process |
| 03:59.53 | sysrage | i don't doubt that. i'm not arguing that in general software quality is horrible. i don't disagree at all that things could be FAR more secure. but i'll never agree that there is ever ANY software that doesn't have holes. unless it's some worthless crap like a hello world app |
| 04:00.12 | Shirik|Nap | People don't think about these things unless they actually care to |
| 04:00.16 | Dagmar | I'm not saying all programs are potentially bug free, although the large ones *damn well should*. I'm saying that the claim that programs *can't* be bug free is utter bullshit. |
| 04:00.22 | Shirik|Nap | In the automotive industry, if you don't think about these things, you kill someone |
| 04:00.46 | Dagmar | It's totally possible for (especially for) small programs to jsut do what they freaking do |
| 04:00.55 | Shirik|Nap | In, say, ventrilo software, you don't think about them as much (/me points to the ventrilo vulnerability released today) |
| 04:00.56 | sysrage | it's not bullshit. i'll agree to disagree. but it's not. there's no possible way to make a program that does anything worth a damn that has zero holes |
| 04:01.14 | Shirik|Nap | I agree |
| 04:01.18 | bleeter | sysrage: nah, it wouldnt exist. coz no one in their right mind would've added scriptability to emails without closing down ever other hole possible first. thus there would've been no where for the worm to 'live' :P |
| 04:01.19 | Dagmar | The place I was coding for about eight years ago, my bugs could kill people, because it was distributing prescription information |
| 04:01.37 | Shirik|Nap | But that's why, for example, in airplanes, we use something known as "triple redundancy" |
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| 04:01.41 | Dagmar | sysrage: Fefe's Finger Daemon, just off the top of my head |
| 04:01.57 | Shirik|Nap | The same algorithm is coded by 3 different people or groups, independently, only with the same inputs and outputs and no other communication |
| 04:02.18 | Shirik|Nap | And if there's disagreement at runtime, you do whatever the majority voted |
| 04:02.18 | Dagmar | It just *looks* impossible to write correct code because of all the people who suck at it |
| 04:02.53 | Dagmar | It would also help if companies would stop trying to low-ball their coders |
| 04:02.57 | bleeter | Shirik|Nap: what do you do when there's no majority? |
| 04:03.03 | Shirik|Nap | Then something's really fucked |
| 04:03.06 | sysrage | lol |
| 04:03.07 | Shirik|Nap | that should never happen |
| 04:03.09 | Dagmar | They hire bad coders, don't support them, and then justify not paying their coders because they all suck |
| 04:03.10 | Jamash | bleeter: crash |
| 04:03.28 | bleeter | I beleive this happened a couple of times across the n/w coast of .au recently |
| 04:03.33 | Shirik|Nap | it's already a safety-critical system. The fact that there's any dissent at all is bad |
| 04:03.48 | bleeter | some planes flying along dropping a few thou feet under autopilot because of some disagreements |
| 04:03.51 | Shirik|Nap | But, if you have something prepared to handle it in the case it DOES happen, you're better off than assuming it's always work |
| 04:03.59 | bleeter | people have blamed the nearby US/AU spybase... but no one really knows |
| 04:04.08 | Shirik|Nap | bleeter: Would you rather it nosedive because there was no check at all? :) |
| 04:04.44 | bleeter | Shirik|Nap: I'd rather it stay level and alert the pilot that something's fucked up :P |
| 04:04.50 | Shirik|Nap | oh it will |
| 04:05.10 | Shirik|Nap | If there's any dissent in the system the appropriate next step is to disable that entire subsystem, alert the pilot, and write it to the log |
| 04:05.15 | sysrage | but the pilot is busy gettin a BJ from the stewardess so it'll take him a few seconds to react |
| 04:05.20 | Shirik|Nap | ... |
| 04:05.36 | bleeter | http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,24897,24464060-601,00.html |
| 04:05.44 | tekkub | hrm... interesting |
| 04:05.49 | ZorbaTHut | I guess that's sorta the exact point in a lot of ways |
| 04:05.59 | ZorbaTHut | yes, there are ways you can avoid bugs and make them less serious and far less likely to show up |
| 04:06.03 | tekkub | it looks like wowmatrix took the liberty to update every TOC number it could find on my system |
| 04:06.20 | Kaelten | tekkub: yep done the same for all mine too |
| 04:06.21 | ZorbaTHut | but it's incredibly expensive (three separate implementations!) and still imperfect |
| 04:06.23 | tekkub | I'm talking addons that were NOT in Interface/Addons |
| 04:06.27 | Kaelten | really messes with the client that way |
| 04:06.29 | Dagmar | You can do things like, have formal audits both internal and cross department, and you can do unit testing |
| 04:06.39 | Shirik|Nap | It's all a practice in risk management |
| 04:06.43 | Dagmar | You can do things like, fire the assholes who pretend they don't know what you mean when you say "Document the code" |
| 04:06.44 | VonhintenHOME` | Drape of the Deadly Foe is ilvl 223 and not 226? |
| 04:06.46 | Shirik|Nap | Oh there's a lot of that Dagmar |
| 04:06.52 | Corrodias | sounds very CONVENIENT, tekkub! ;) |
| 04:06.56 | Shirik|Nap | Code reviews are necessary, etc. |
| 04:07.00 | Dagmar | Shirik|Nap: I know |
| 04:07.17 | Dagmar | What passes for proper coding in most places, I wouldn't wipe my butt with tho |
| 04:07.20 | Shirik|Nap | One of my professors is actually a software project manager at boeing |
| 04:07.36 | Shirik|Nap | So he goes on and on about risk management, code review, all that |
| 04:07.50 | Shirik|Nap | I totally agree, Dagmar |
| 04:07.51 | Dagmar | It maay be a lot of extra paperwork, but it gets results |
| 04:07.56 | Shirik|Nap | some of what's out there in the industry really scares me |
| 04:08.07 | Shirik|Nap | fortunately the safety-critical industries seem to have their act together |
| 04:08.34 | Shirik|Nap | (and that's why I really want to get in there) |
| 04:08.41 | Dagmar | Probably becasue execs like to fly without falling out of the sky |
| 04:08.52 | Shirik|Nap | haha |
| 04:08.59 | sysrage | you'd cry if you saw how IBM QA functioned |
| 04:09.03 | Dagmar | I suspect perhaps we'd see similar efforts in the investment banking industry if similiar failure models existed |
| 04:09.03 | Seerah | Shirik|Nap: Go to Bed! |
| 04:09.28 | Dagmar | AIG execs would surely not have been screwing around if they'd known they'd wind up in the poor house for it |
| 04:09.49 | bleeter | investment banking didn't used to have those asfety code lines in there |
| 04:09.52 | ScytheBlade1 | The forums are making me angry |
| 04:09.58 | bleeter | witness the 90's automatic selloffs and crash |
| 04:10.03 | tekkub | ah, the only things erroring now are MSBT, TomTom and TGR |
| 04:10.08 | tekkub | I think I'm good for the night |
| 04:10.16 | tekkub | oh and OneBank not hiding the default bank |
| 04:10.20 | Shirik|Nap | anyway, Seerah and Cairenn|afk are going to tie me down if I don't go to sleep |
| 04:10.22 | Shirik|Nap | so bye |
| 04:10.25 | Seerah | MSBT is erroring? was updated today and hubby's been fine |
| 04:10.31 | Shirik|Nap | (that may not necessarily be a bad thing but...) |
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| 04:10.37 | tekkub | I haven't downloaded anything yet |
| 04:10.38 | Shirik|Nap | >.> |
| 04:10.44 | tekkub | and have no immediate plans to |
| 04:10.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Seerah: /kb Shirik|Nap |
| 04:10.53 | Shirik|Nap | she can't ban me |
| 04:10.56 | Seerah | unknown command |
| 04:10.58 | Seerah | :( |
| 04:11.00 | ScytheBlade1 | boo |
| 04:11.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Works here |
| 04:11.03 | Shirik|Nap | if she mode +bs me |
| 04:11.04 | kd3 | wahahaha: http://www.wowwiki.com/A_Steamy_Romance_Novel:_Northern_Exposure |
| 04:11.06 | Shirik|Nap | she gets annihilated |
| 04:11.10 | Seerah | cairenn |
| 04:11.14 | Seerah | ^^^ |
| 04:11.14 | MentalPower | ./kline Shirik|Nap |
| 04:11.33 | Seerah | nope |
| 04:11.40 | Seerah | but I can do this all night |
| 04:11.42 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Shirik|Nap!n=Ryan_L@adsl-66-11-239.mem.bellsouth.net] by Seerah (Seerah) |
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| 04:12.51 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: win |
| 04:13.01 | kd3 | oh fail, there's apage for. refresh in a sec |
| 04:15.21 | ScytheBlade1 | All of these people saying "but hosting COULD be free! Sourceforge! Google code!" |
| 04:15.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Total /facepalm |
| 04:15.27 | kd3 | got it |
| 04:15.41 | ZorbaTHut | so apparently there's a new bug in VH where some portal keepers spawn underground |
| 04:15.47 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.scienceblogs.de/frischer-wind/picard-facepalm.jpg even |
| 04:15.51 | Arrowmaster | i pointed out that sourceforge and googlecode require 100% open source licenses but was ignored |
| 04:16.37 | Seerah | they just think that bandwidth and money grow on trees |
| 04:17.01 | kd3 | they don't? |
| 04:17.09 | bleeter | kd3: wtb: level 99 |
| 04:17.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Never mind the part where wowi/curse exist TO MIRROR ADDONS |
| 04:17.14 | Seerah | unfortunately, no :P |
| 04:17.36 | Seerah | why that's our only purpose - didn't you know? |
| 04:17.46 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: fyi they are talking about you in http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16418871732&sid=1 |
| 04:17.52 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: someone is sasying that they need level 99 access to read that page |
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| 04:20.14 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: er, never mind, I'm both retarded and on lortab |
| 04:21.11 | Kaelten | cute |
| 04:21.17 | Kaelten | I'm really getting sick of some of this shit |
| 04:21.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't blame you, it's starting to piss me off |
| 04:21.37 | ScytheBlade1 | And I can't even play the game haha |
| 04:22.32 | ScytheBlade1 | heh @ post #12's signature |
| 04:24.00 | Kaelten | yeah that was funny |
| 04:24.45 | Seerah | yeah he got that from a post by voodoodad on wowi |
| 04:24.52 | Jamash | what is everyone's problem with the curse updater |
| 04:25.04 | Jamash | I haven't had a single issue with the latest version |
| 04:25.38 | ScytheBlade1 | People are emo that their favorite wowmatrix was killed by selfish greedy site admins who clearly don't care for their community at all |
| 04:25.45 | ScytheBlade1 | And so they shall whine about everything for quite some time |
| 04:25.55 | ScytheBlade1 | No matter how based in logic doing so is, or isn't |
| 04:27.32 | bleeter | wait wait wait wait |
| 04:27.42 | bleeter | quests have vanished from logs but left quest items behind? |
| 04:28.17 | Jamash | doy? |
| 04:28.39 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16409811000&sid=1 |
| 04:29.22 | tekkub | *clicks link like an idiot |
| 04:29.34 | tekkub | oh that wasn't too bad |
| 04:29.54 | Kaelten | tekkub: scroll up it gets worse |
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| 04:32.10 | Jamash | oh, so they banned casinos again |
| 04:32.39 | kd3 | just advertising |
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| 04:39.18 | bleeter | the were never banned in the firt place |
| 04:39.27 | bleeter | people just... misunderstood... the rules |
| 04:40.04 | Dagmar | Well, it's great that the kiddies are working so hard to give Blizz an excuse to formally bounce them |
| 04:40.05 | Iriel | Hm, I was fairly sure they were banned explicitly at one point |
| 04:40.11 | Dagmar | They were |
| 04:40.24 | End | yeah, didn't they ban it with scamming as the reason? |
| 04:40.27 | Dagmar | Casinos and lotteries were explicity mentioned |
| 04:40.47 | Dagmar | s/ity/itly/; |
| 04:41.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ... Texas has fucking lost it. http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/12227/ |
| 04:42.38 | Dagmar | It's amazing how none of these people had the balls to do this while Bush was running amok |
| 04:42.41 | kd3 | that's the second state to do that of late, isn't it? |
| 04:42.45 | End | it is |
| 04:43.04 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 04:43.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: thats because these nutjobs were bushes cronies |
| 04:43.21 | End | I'm a bit confused how they plan on challenging the "pass this law or don't get federal monies" bit that the article mentions though |
| 04:44.49 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Mainly I think it's because they were concerned Bush would have them snuffed |
| 04:45.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: likely a little of column a, a little of column b. |
| 04:45.49 | NightHawkTheSane | a lot of of the GOP has gone off the deep end with hypocrisy lately. |
| 04:45.51 | Dagmar | Probably so |
| 04:45.57 | Dagmar | Too right about that |
| 04:45.57 | ZorbaTHut | end, the issue is that the federal government isn't supposed to have certain powers over the states - they've been kind of shouldering those powers in for a long time now, but it's actually been ripe for a challenge for quite a while |
| 04:45.57 | Arrowmaster | the 10th amendment needs to be repealed, imho the fucking states do more harm to the people of both their own state and the rest of the states when they try to flex their power |
| 04:46.12 | Dagmar | I'm still astonished the RNC has gone ahead with the "teabagging" |
| 04:46.19 | ZorbaTHut | I actually think this is a good thing, as much as I suspect they're doing it so they can megaban gay marriage or whatever |
| 04:46.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: pretty much. |
| 04:55.45 | Funkeh` | can someone update the addon survival guide to show bigwigs has ben updated? >.> |
| 04:57.07 | Jamash | states rights is old-timey code for slavery and segregation |
| 04:57.13 | Trela | drools. |
| 04:57.17 | Trela | Hard boiled egg so good. |
| 05:01.17 | NeoTron | gah did they change master loot stuff? |
| 05:01.31 | Trela | What is it doing for you? |
| 05:01.42 | NeoTron | my loot menu doesn't work nor does magic DKP bidder.. doesn't do the master loot thing |
| 05:02.28 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn|afk -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.1.x ToC: 30100 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Upload your 3.1 compatible mods | Happy Birthday Kaelten |
| 05:02.39 | Trela | :O |
| 05:02.47 | Trela | Happy Birthday Mister Kaelten! |
| 05:03.05 | Kaelten | lol |
| 05:03.14 | Kaelten | Thanks guys, wish it was a little more peaceful |
| 05:09.05 | tekkub | I HATE YOU |
| 05:09.08 | tekkub | that better? |
| 05:09.20 | tekkub | I can come at you with a knife if you like |
| 05:09.46 | Kaelten | :( |
| 05:09.49 | Kaelten | tekkub no love me no more |
| 05:10.21 | tekkub | you never wanted my love |
| 05:10.31 | tekkub | what was it you said? "not in my ass" |
| 05:11.08 | *** join/#wowuidev msou| (i=msoul@meridian.sosdg.org) |
| 05:11.17 | Kaelten | yeah, sorry, I know that makes it difficult for you |
| 05:11.48 | msou| | Arrowmaster: I forgot the link you gave me yesterday when I went back home |
| 05:12.10 | Arrowmaster | so did i |
| 05:12.36 | msou| | that map for instances |
| 05:13.00 | Arrowmaster | @project instance-maps |
| 05:13.01 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/instance-maps/. InstanceMaps. Game: WoW. Arrowmaster (Manager/Author), Kemayo (Author). Updated: 71 days ago. Tickets: 2/6 |
| 05:13.04 | Arrowmaster | probably broken now |
| 05:13.29 | msou| | yuo're not planning to update it mate? |
| 05:13.50 | Arrowmaster | i quit |
| 05:13.58 | Thunder_Child | odd, rolls are not showing up in chat |
| 05:14.20 | VonhintenHOME` | So, repair costs are insane all of a sudden |
| 05:14.38 | Trela | sets graphics to ULTRA! |
| 05:14.40 | msou| | you just updated cartographer |
| 05:14.47 | Arrowmaster | no i didnt |
| 05:14.55 | msou| | http://www.wowace.com/profiles/Arrowmaster/ |
| 05:14.57 | msou| | that aint you? |
| 05:15.04 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 05:15.10 | Arrowmaster | but it wasnt me touching Cartographer |
| 05:15.20 | Arrowmaster | it was ckknight |
| 05:15.22 | msou| | oh I see |
| 05:15.35 | ckknight | waves |
| 05:15.49 | VonhintenHOME` | Ulduar needs to go back to Beta imo... we fell through the floor and died 3 times just at Flame Levi |
| 05:16.04 | Trela | Wow, Cartographer updated. :O |
| 05:16.19 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: if you are feeling advernturous you can revert my revert of AbydosLanti's commit to libtourist-3.0 that made him quit |
| 05:16.30 | ckknight | what did you do? |
| 05:16.34 | Arrowmaster | fixed it |
| 05:16.44 | ckknight | more specific? |
| 05:16.55 | Arrowmaster | he added "Dalaran Arena" to tourist |
| 05:17.01 | ckknight | hmm. |
| 05:17.05 | Arrowmaster | it wasnt in libbabble-zone-3.0 at the time |
| 05:17.09 | ckknight | I see |
| 05:17.12 | Arrowmaster | thus he broke tourist for everybody |
| 05:17.21 | ckknight | seems like I'd do Babble first |
| 05:17.30 | Arrowmaster | i reverted it and he went emo and quit saying i make things too dificult |
| 05:17.43 | ScytheBlade1 | ~logs |
| 05:17.44 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 05:17.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 05:17.45 | Arrowmaster | then i did a little happy dance |
| 05:17.59 | Adys | WAAARGHLMHLHLLHKSSDFJ |
| 05:18.05 | Adys | *~&^ |
| 05:18.07 | Thunder_Child | ~calm Adys |
| 05:18.08 | purl | ACTION sooths Adys, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm Adys down. |
| 05:18.09 | Adys | gaaahhh |
| 05:18.21 | Adys | people reporting bugs |
| 05:18.33 | Adys | "it works fine in the last version here" |
| 05:18.53 | Adys | "Yeah but I'm using a 7 months old version and it doesnt work" |
| 05:19.01 | Adys | ".. its been fixed since then" |
| 05:19.03 | Adys | "Yeah but my version doesnt work, why" |
| 05:19.06 | Adys | GAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH |
| 05:19.22 | Arrowmaster | ^^ examples of why i quit |
| 05:19.29 | Arrowmaster | this is fun |
| 05:19.39 | Adys | quit what? |
| 05:19.44 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 05:19.53 | Arrowmaster | and programming addons |
| 05:20.04 | Adys | yeah well thats a wine bug |
| 05:20.14 | tekkub | and yet you're still here... |
| 05:20.14 | Adys | .. about wow, but suck it up :P |
| 05:20.20 | tekkub | ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US |
| 05:20.32 | Arrowmaster | true |
| 05:20.40 | Zootfizzle | >_> |
| 05:20.44 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 05:20.45 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give Kody- a big kiss on the ear |
| 05:21.32 | Trela | ~kiss Trela |
| 05:21.33 | purl | ACTION forces Trela to give kd3 a big kiss on the hand |
| 05:21.49 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 05:21.50 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 05:21.51 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give tp4906i a big kiss on the ear |
| 05:21.53 | Fisker- | :( |
| 05:22.04 | Trela | Big ear lover? ^_~ |
| 05:22.06 | tp4906i | :( |
| 05:25.15 | ZorbaTHut | nice, I've got two daily heroics |
| 05:26.46 | msou| | ZorbaTHut: you could have numbered QH to 1.0 instead of 0.100 |
| 05:27.20 | ZorbaTHut | msou, QH 1.0 is in prealpha right now. It is a huge huge improvement over the 0.x line. |
| 05:27.29 | ZorbaTHut | 0.101 is not 1.0, and is not anywhere near it :) |
| 05:27.43 | msou| | hmmm I see |
| 05:28.01 | End | wow, they even made it easy to move the watch frame around |
| 05:28.05 | ZorbaTHut | I was actually hoping to get 1.0 out before I hit 100 just to avoid this confusion, but that didn't happen |
| 05:28.13 | End | (for the builtin tracker) |
| 05:28.14 | ZorbaTHut | the watch frame is really nice |
| 05:28.16 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaTHut: its still prealpha? |
| 05:28.21 | ZorbaTHut | I kind of want to implement QH as something that just drops into the watchframe |
| 05:28.35 | ZorbaTHut | arrow, sadly, yeah. I seem to have about 40 testers, and they tend to find two or three crashes a week |
| 05:28.40 | msou| | ZorbaTHut: I was surprised with the numbering hehe |
| 05:28.43 | Ackis | throws cookies at Zootfizzle |
| 05:28.53 | Arrowmaster | they find crashes..... |
| 05:28.54 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 05:28.56 | ZorbaTHut | 5% weekly failure rate just isn't acceptable. Fingers crossed for this week. |
| 05:29.12 | End | ZorbaTHut: I think it'd be really neat if there was sort of a standard watch frame that addons could hook into. I don't know how well the watchframe could fulfill that though |
| 05:29.13 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, you have to find the right group of people. that's the tough part. :) |
| 05:29.21 | ZorbaTHut | end, it actually fulfills it pretty much 100% |
| 05:29.32 | ZorbaTHut | I dug through the code heavily when I was trying to suppress the built-in quest tracker ;) |
| 05:29.38 | End | oh, cool |
| 05:29.41 | ZorbaTHut | it's a nice little modular system |
| 05:29.49 | End | that's good :) |
| 05:30.20 | End | it's definitely an improvement over the old watch system |
| 05:30.49 | NightHawkTheSane | "You don't have any more space to track objectives.." .. but i'm not tracking anything >.> |
| 05:31.02 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, a major improvement |
| 05:31.29 | msou| | ZorbaTHut: isn't it possible to track instances with QH by the way? |
| 05:32.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Rincewind` (n=Rince@WoWUIDev/Norganna/QA-Engineer/Rincewind) |
| 05:32.34 | ZorbaTHut | msou, the features I need for that are new in 3.1 |
| 05:32.42 | ZorbaTHut | and, yes, I'll be supporting that as soon as I get useful data |
| 05:33.25 | ZorbaTHut | it'll be a bit, however - not only do I need a significant amount of data, but I'll need to go into the instances and get size and connection information for each map |
| 05:33.46 | kd3 | whee, flame leviathan down |
| 05:33.50 | End | gratz |
| 05:33.56 | kd3 | yawns |
| 05:34.03 | ZorbaTHut | kd3, a few of my friends told me that they were trying him and he was really really hard |
| 05:34.05 | kd3 | gonna have to do it hard mode next week |
| 05:34.14 | kd3 | got him 2nd try |
| 05:34.16 | ZorbaTHut | "but it's not too bad, 'cause we have all our equipment off so there's no repair bills" |
| 05:34.18 | kd3 | and we're a pretty scrub guild |
| 05:34.23 | kd3 | oh, geez |
| 05:34.24 | kd3 | idiots |
| 05:34.24 | ZorbaTHut | I explained how the ilevel scaling worked. :P |
| 05:34.40 | ZorbaTHut | does the instance tell you about it? if it doesn't mention it, I can see that being an easy mistake to make |
| 05:34.43 | End | ZorbaTHut: haha |
| 05:34.48 | End | that's awesome and hilarious |
| 05:35.01 | ZorbaTHut | end, on the plus side, at least it didn't cost them any repair bills :D |
| 05:35.06 | End | truth |
| 05:35.21 | Ackis | anyone know why my blackberry crashes when it tries to sync the calendar with outlook? :( |
| 05:35.27 | VonhintenHOME` | we got levi down under 50% with just 6 people dicking around |
| 05:35.32 | End | your blackberry hates you |
| 05:35.38 | VonhintenHOME` | not hard mode obviously |
| 05:35.48 | Ackis | end: so does everything else |
| 05:36.02 | Fisker- | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:36.14 | |Jelly| | We're still working on him. 2 attempts in and wiped at 3%. :( |
| 05:36.17 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm not sure if it's possible to take him down with 6 |
| 05:36.27 | VonhintenHOME` | I think 7 or 8 might be necessary |
| 05:36.39 | VonhintenHOME` | gotta have turret killers |
| 05:36.49 | Wobin | hm, Ace3 is being misrepresented in the CC as Tournament Realm Spy again... |
| 05:36.56 | Wobin | Kaelten: ^ |
| 05:37.16 | Kaelten | what.... |
| 05:37.17 | Wobin | or ckknight ^ |
| 05:37.21 | Kaelten | WTF |
| 05:37.27 | Wobin | You want a screenshot? |
| 05:37.40 | Kaelten | can you try removing it and seeing what's going on? |
| 05:37.54 | Kaelten | rather see if it's still doing it |
| 05:37.58 | Wobin | sure |
| 05:38.00 | Wobin | one sec |
| 05:38.04 | Wobin | http://www.flickr.com/photos/30938059@N08/3443277629/ |
| 05:38.22 | Wobin | hm uninstalled |
| 05:38.26 | Wobin | but it didn't delete the Ace3 folder |
| 05:38.34 | Wobin | lemme see if it picks it up again |
| 05:38.50 | Wobin | hm, looks fine now |
| 05:39.16 | Kaelten | odd |
| 05:40.40 | msou| | have to update auctioneer and QH today |
| 05:41.16 | kd3 | zOMG molten core mobs in ulduar? |
| 05:41.17 | kd3 | ahahahahahha |
| 05:41.51 | msou| | I got a player who's obsessed with me |
| 05:42.14 | msou| | evetyday he messages me "oh you're lvl 41 low xp haha" and the like |
| 05:42.38 | msou| | one of the reasons why I quit xbox 360.... |
| 05:43.01 | msou| | they talk real good, but they bloody chicken out in a fist fight |
| 05:43.13 | msou| | waste of sperm |
| 05:43.21 | msou| | excuse my lingo... |
| 05:43.24 | ZorbaTHut | I am consistently amazed at the human race's ability to turn every situation into "us vs them, and we're better" |
| 05:44.32 | ZorbaTHut | you could take two random people, strip 'em naked, and drop them on an alien planet without any food, and within 24 hours one of them would be bragging that his hair was longer. |
| 05:44.48 | ZorbaTHut | Even if it wasn't. |
| 05:45.47 | Kaelten | yeah this is going nuts |
| 05:45.48 | Adys | kd3: wut |
| 05:46.04 | Kaelten | a guy just threatened to download all of our mods and upload them himself |
| 05:46.14 | End | huh |
| 05:46.15 | Kaelten | to another site |
| 05:46.20 | End | oh |
| 05:46.23 | Ackis | Kaelten: I told you I was just joking :P |
| 05:46.23 | Syzgyn | I love blizzard |
| 05:46.25 | Syzgyn | It appears these issues are due, in large part, to the incredible popularity of the Ulduar instance itself. The massive amounts of the instance being created are causing instance blades to be overwhelmed. We will continue to work on alleviating the situation. We appreciate your patience and continued feedback. |
| 05:46.35 | Syzgyn | G-fucking-G |
| 05:46.39 | Kaelten | "Damn, I'm just gonna download each addon individually and upload them on my own website." |
| 05:46.57 | Ackis | Kaelten: link? |
| 05:47.03 | Kaelten | http://www.curse.com/articles/curse-en-news/437537.aspx |
| 05:47.20 | kd3 | zOMG... they actually used the word 'blade'? |
| 05:47.22 | kd3 | !? |
| 05:47.32 | Adys | kd3: ehh? |
| 05:47.42 | Jamash | blade servers are leet |
| 05:47.44 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:47.56 | Adys | kd3: was about mc mobs |
| 05:48.08 | Ackis | Kaelten: lol I responded :D |
| 05:48.23 | kd3 | adys, first ignis trash |
| 05:48.23 | tekkub | YOU ARE NOT REPAIRED! |
| 05:48.26 | kd3 | they're molten giants |
| 05:48.29 | Kaelten | lol |
| 05:48.34 | tekkub | damnit, stupid foobar2k playing TBC soundtrack |
| 05:48.38 | Adys | kd3: um. screenshots? |
| 05:48.41 | Ackis | Kaelten: :D |
| 05:48.46 | kd3 | fighting razor. sec |
| 05:48.52 | End | I am repaired |
| 05:48.54 | Syzgyn | kd3: We're MC Raiders! |
| 05:49.04 | End | I brought my traveling tundra mammoth |
| 05:49.28 | Syzgyn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjmJCy1ksYY |
| 05:51.41 | |Jelly| | 1.1% wipe lol |
| 05:52.05 | End | at least it wasn't 0.1% |
| 05:52.09 | Ackis | ping jnwhiteh ZOMG IT'S the end of the worldd |
| 05:52.12 | |Jelly| | Yeah |
| 05:52.43 | ZorbaTHut | can't wait to see what Algalon the Raid Destroyer is like |
| 05:52.52 | kd3 | waits for the upload to finish |
| 05:53.13 | Adys | Cairenn|afk, Kaelten; Did you think about having simple captchas on download links? or something similar - guess you did just interested |
| 05:53.27 | kd3 | adys; http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Uldar_and_Molten_Core.jpg |
| 05:53.33 | Cairenn|afk | they are on there as a backup to the other thing |
| 05:53.34 | kd3 | curse throws captchas since I don't have flash turned on |
| 05:53.38 | Adys | kd3: win |
| 05:53.48 | Adys | Cairenn|afk: ah |
| 05:53.48 | Xinhuan | meh, i have to captcha because i don't have java installed? |
| 05:53.54 | Xinhuan | :< |
| 05:53.55 | Adys | doesnt download addons |
| 05:54.07 | Adys | kd3: they arent MC mobs tho |
| 05:54.12 | Cairenn|afk | sorry guys |
| 05:54.13 | Adys | was just giant/destroyer |
| 05:54.24 | Cairenn|afk | wish we didn't have to do this |
| 05:54.32 | Adys | I was expecting a lvl 83 molten destroyer, IM ALL DISAPPOINTED :(:( |
| 05:54.46 | MentalPower | Xinhuan: easy, install java! |
| 05:54.47 | Kaelten | yeah, no one really get is, we don't really want to be doing this. |
| 05:54.50 | Kaelten | sighs |
| 05:54.51 | Kaelten | shrugs |
| 05:55.00 | Xinhuan | just formatted recently ;p |
| 05:55.02 | MentalPower | kd3: same, install flash :) |
| 05:55.04 | Xinhuan | so don't have it installed yet |
| 05:55.05 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 05:55.07 | Adys | kd3: (get some AA :P) |
| 05:55.08 | MentalPower | or allow it for curse |
| 05:55.22 | MentalPower | Xinhuan: java.com |
| 05:55.31 | MentalPower | (yes, I'm being pedantic) |
| 05:55.37 | Adys | I refuse to install java |
| 05:55.37 | Xinhuan | no time for this now ;p |
| 05:55.39 | Adys | and .. not a loss |
| 05:55.43 | Xinhuan | i'll install it another day |
| 05:55.51 | Xinhuan | 5 secs isn't much to type in 2 words hehe |
| 05:55.53 | MentalPower | Adys: curious, why? |
| 05:55.56 | Adys | omigod I cant real-time chat on some shoutboxes |
| 05:56.06 | Adys | MentalPower: flash on ff64 on linux is horrible enough |
| 05:56.17 | Adys | makes ff crash, freeze, hog the comp, ... |
| 05:56.32 | MentalPower | flash 64 is... problematic |
| 05:56.32 | Adys | java is just about the same situation, but I dont actually need it as much |
| 05:56.40 | MentalPower | java64 just works |
| 05:56.48 | MentalPower | at least in my experience |
| 05:56.53 | Adys | on linux? |
| 05:56.54 | Adys | :p |
| 05:57.05 | MentalPower | granted |
| 05:57.17 | Adys | firefox on linux is bad |
| 05:57.17 | MentalPower | macosx/vista64 |
| 05:57.21 | Adys | flash on linux is just bad |
| 05:57.25 | Adys | flash 64 is really bad |
| 05:57.27 | MentalPower | haven't tried linux |
| 05:57.33 | Adys | flash 64 on linux is.. yeah, you get it |
| 05:57.45 | MentalPower | why not use firefox32/flash32? |
| 05:57.56 | MentalPower | nm |
| 05:58.02 | MentalPower | anyways, gotta go |
| 05:58.15 | Adys | too much trouble; was doing some shitsetup at some point with swiftfox |
| 05:58.39 | Adys | atm, i just use chromium ppa debs most of the time, they actually are starting to work |
| 05:58.45 | Adys | otherwise ff under wine |
| 05:58.51 | Adys | night mp |
| 05:59.11 | nevcairiel | ff on wine works better then native ff? |
| 05:59.29 | nevcairiel | what a crazy world |
| 05:59.50 | Adys | it works a LOT better |
| 06:00.04 | Adys | it crashes kinda often, but thats nothing compared to perfs |
| 06:00.51 | nevcairiel | I never noticed that on my nix system |
| 06:00.58 | Adys | 32bit? |
| 06:01.00 | nevcairiel | the performance wasnt great, but it didnt crash |
| 06:01.03 | nevcairiel | both, actually |
| 06:01.17 | Adys | lemme find you the links |
| 06:01.36 | Adys | oh gee look at that, one of them has been updated since last time I emptied my mailbox less than a day ago. |
| 06:01.52 | Adys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/238606 |
| 06:01.58 | Adys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/238606 |
| 06:02.00 | Adys | er |
| 06:02.15 | Adys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/246450 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/221496 |
| 06:02.43 | Adys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/227591 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/231839 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/274094 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/280906 |
| 06:02.55 | Adys | thats just the top 15 mails in my mailbox |
| 06:03.12 | Adys | cant even be arsed to get you all the upstream links since i gotta deal with all the windows reports too |
| 06:03.17 | Arrowmaster | have you tried compiling from source |
| 06:03.30 | Adys | its been almost two years, I tried a lot |
| 06:04.10 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 06:04.10 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give |Jelly| a big kiss on the hand |
| 06:04.15 | Adys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/177856 <sigh> |
| 06:05.16 | Adys | point is FF is bad, and chromium is getting better on linux by the day |
| 06:06.34 | Adys | awesome things with the PPAs too is they're updated daily, really quite nice seeing it get a lot better in no time |
| 06:08.05 | Adys | ~whalescramble tekkub |
| 06:08.17 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Adys |
| 06:08.17 | purl | Adys, you Fail! |
| 06:08.23 | Adys | ~whalezero Thunder_Child |
| 06:08.24 | purl | ACTION summons Hubert the Mathematician Whale to create a black hole aimed at Thunder_Child's body through a powerful unhandled division by zero. |
| 06:08.44 | tekkub | what did I do? |
| 06:09.06 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleshield |
| 06:09.07 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield thunder_child from the blast. |
| 06:09.30 | Thunder_Child | ~whalekiss Adys |
| 06:09.31 | purl | ACTION makes hugh the formerly male whale give Adys a kiss |
| 06:09.43 | Adys | ~whalelaser Thunder_Child |
| 06:09.44 | purl | ACTION calls Jean-Pierre, a planet-sized whale from the future, who starts firing deadly lazerbeams from his head on Thunder_Child, disintegrating every single cell from their body, leaving nothing but dust |
| 06:09.58 | Thunder_Child | ~dodge Adys |
| 06:09.59 | purl | at the last second thunder_child dodges out of the way of Adys's malicious and unprovoked attack. |
| 06:10.01 | kd3 | lmao, the deconstructor's voice is hilarious |
| 06:10.13 | Adys | ~whalefiddle Thunder_Child |
| 06:10.24 | Thunder_Child | HAH, i win |
| 06:10.35 | Adys | you fail, ~dodge != ~whaledodge |
| 06:11.06 | Thunder_Child | ~whalevanish |
| 06:11.13 | Thunder_Child | ~whalehide |
| 06:11.21 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleblink |
| 06:11.46 | Thunder_Child | ~whalefail |
| 06:11.47 | purl | Thunder_Child: you too! |
| 06:11.47 | Adys | ~whalestorm Thunder_Child |
| 06:11.52 | Thunder_Child | ~whalefail Adys |
| 06:11.58 | Fisker- | ~:3 |
| 06:12.02 | Fisker- | ~>:3 |
| 06:12.03 | purl | ACTION gets in the car |
| 06:12.03 | Adys | ~fail Thunder_Child d |
| 06:12.04 | purl | Thunder_Child d: FAIL! |
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| 06:16.57 | Thunder_Child | meh, we only got the first boss in our pugg |
| 06:17.00 | Thunder_Child | and quit |
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| 06:34.41 | durcyn | TC: seeing as ignis is bugged and XT002 has surprise trash, that's not too bad =P |
| 06:35.04 | Thunder_Child | we kept wiping on ignis's trash :( |
| 06:35.25 | durcyn | until the hotfix goes in there's not much point |
| 06:35.30 | nevcairiel | ignis seems killable, though |
| 06:35.36 | Thunder_Child | and ya, the deconstructors trash is hellish, however you dont pull them attacking the boss |
| 06:35.40 | Jamash | "surprise trash"? |
| 06:35.41 | durcyn | the debuff isn't falling off when you kill the adds, nev |
| 06:36.07 | durcyn | Jamash: wasn't on ptr, two groups linked that shouldn't be, so you end up with 22 adds that gib you in about 5 seconds |
| 06:36.15 | Jamash | ouch |
| 06:36.21 | nevcairiel | they admitted that as a bug |
| 06:36.24 | nevcairiel | being hotfixed asap |
| 06:36.29 | durcyn | "asap" |
| 06:37.28 | nevcairiel | Shattering an Iron Construct in the Ignis the Furnace Master encounter does not properly reduce the number of stacks of Strength of the Creator on Ignis. |
| 06:37.28 | nevcairiel | UPDATE: This has been hotfixed so that shattering a Construct removes one stack application of Strength of the Creator. |
| 06:37.34 | nevcairiel | The two trash pulls in front of XT-002 Deconstructor are linked. |
| 06:37.35 | nevcairiel | UPDATE: We've disabled the XT-002 Deconstructor Trash, |
| 06:37.37 | nevcairiel | see ^ |
| 06:37.52 | durcyn | right after we left for the night, sigh sigh sigh |
| 06:37.54 | Thunder_Child | what? hasent hapened yet |
| 06:38.01 | Thunder_Child | i just stoped trying it |
| 06:38.11 | nevcairiel | the trash won't despawn if you're already in |
| 06:38.14 | nevcairiel | he said that too |
| 06:38.17 | nevcairiel | i cut the paste short |
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| 06:39.48 | nevcairiel | Thats why i like being EU, sometiems =P |
| 06:39.58 | nevcairiel | US is beta testers! |
| 06:42.12 | Adys | Anyone knows of an updated version of http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/project-14528.aspx |
| 06:42.27 | nevcairiel | FramesResized can do that |
| 06:42.28 | Adys | (or a clone or whatever) |
| 06:42.30 | nevcairiel | (plus more) |
| 06:42.38 | Adys | yeah but I dont care about the plus more :P |
| 06:42.47 | Adys | it doesnt resize it |
| 06:42.49 | Adys | just lets you close it |
| 06:43.02 | nevcairiel | I thought it would mkae it longer too |
| 06:43.06 | Adys | nop |
| 06:43.10 | nevcairiel | meh i use a double wide |
| 06:43.16 | Adys | tried it didnt like it |
| 06:43.22 | Adys | it just adds a close button to the description frame |
| 06:44.15 | Adys | nevcairiel: the word you're looking for is "stresstesters" =P |
| 06:47.45 | tekkub | so now that it's getting later, has the load on wowi/curse gone down? |
| 06:48.02 | tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:48.15 | Kaelten | yo |
| 06:48.22 | Kaelten | it's better. |
| 06:48.27 | Kaelten | not sure exact numbers for the curse stack |
| 06:48.53 | tekkub | well all in all it's seemed like a calm patch day on the bandwidth front from what I've seen |
| 06:49.27 | Cairenn|afk | yep, except for a couple spikes, WoWI was pretty stable all day |
| 06:49.28 | tekkub | just wanted to be sure before I push out TG, it's the one broken thing I have that I didn't slip in build-checking majicks a month ago |
| 06:49.46 | Kaelten | we're currently pushing out ~ 300MB/s off of curseforge though |
| 06:49.56 | Kaelten | but we should be fine |
| 06:49.57 | Cairenn|afk | in some ways, could almost wish the sites had had problems, so people weren't able to bitch so easily :p |
| 06:50.09 | Kaelten | Cairenn|afk: I like it! lets do it! |
| 06:50.14 | tekkub | Cairenn|afk: poor timing |
| 06:50.24 | tekkub | you should have withheld the breaking till mid-afternoon |
| 06:50.31 | tekkub | then you could have directly blamed it |
| 06:50.40 | tekkub | "we didn't want to, but we had to!" |
| 06:50.51 | Kaelten | lol |
| 06:51.06 | tekkub | you two could have syncronized a fake outage even |
| 06:51.12 | tekkub | we wouldn't have told on you |
| 06:51.17 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> I seem to be tracking fishing pools on the ground in crystalsong.. from dalaran.. |
| 06:51.57 | tekkub | NightHawkTheSane: uh, last I checked the tracker doesn't have a vertical distance limit does it? |
| 06:52.18 | tekkub | no matter how high up you are the stuff in a given horiz radius draws in |
| 06:52.19 | NightHawkTheSane | tekkub: maybe not, but i've never seen the blips on my minimap like that before |
| 06:55.51 | Adys | tekkub: uhm it does |
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| 06:56.03 | Adys | well not the tracker, but its not on screen either way |
| 06:57.44 | tekkub | well everything I've even seen on the track is "on screen" even if it's not directly visible |
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| 06:58.20 | tekkub | I.E. quest giver !'s don't draw onto the map until the questgive draws in, or would draw if if they weren't behind something |
| 06:58.22 | Adys | yes |
| 06:58.29 | Adys | but dalaran is far above crystalsong nodes |
| 06:58.36 | tekkub | yea |
| 07:02.14 | Wobin | DK Blood DPS or Unholy DPS? |
| 07:02.21 | Adys | Frost DPS |
| 07:02.38 | Wobin | I'm already frost tanking |
| 07:03.13 | tekkub | FROST DPS stop arguing |
| 07:03.25 | Wobin | stfu Tekkub, I'd never ask you =P |
| 07:03.34 | Adys | o u |
| 07:03.39 | Adys | just spec frost and suck it up |
| 07:03.48 | Wobin | I already dps as a frost |
| 07:03.55 | Adys | THEN KEEP DOING THAT |
| 07:04.00 | Wobin | What's my -other- spec going to be! |
| 07:04.06 | Adys | same one |
| 07:04.08 | tekkub | DPS MORE |
| 07:04.09 | Adys | just to fuck with blizz |
| 07:04.11 | tekkub | FROST MORE |
| 07:04.16 | Wobin | Adysfail |
| 07:05.11 | End | oh wow |
| 07:05.17 | End | the armory is updated already |
| 07:05.21 | End | and it does show both specs |
| 07:05.28 | nevcairiel | nice |
| 07:05.54 | End | and it shows glyphs |
| 07:06.01 | Adys | does it show your mom |
| 07:06.16 | NightHawkTheSane | highfives Adys |
| 07:06.26 | End | it would show my mom |
| 07:06.29 | End | if she played WoW |
| 07:06.34 | Adys | maybe |
| 07:06.36 | Adys | shes not updated |
| 07:07.05 | Jamash | armory shows glyphs? hooray! |
| 07:07.45 | ronghail | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:08.33 | Adys | ronghail: hold on until you see that DeclineGroup() disbands your guild |
| 07:08.44 | ronghail | heh |
| 07:10.42 | End | although |
| 07:10.51 | End | the armory also suddenly started counting my buffs again too |
| 07:11.04 | End | but it doesn't show them |
| 07:11.35 | Aezay | What is up with the EWOlson addons on WoWInterface http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9359-EWOlson_GetSellValue.html they are all the same, creates loads of frames and prints print("EWOlson.name, WoWMatrix.com") |
| 07:12.09 | Adys | Cairenn|afk: ^ |
| 07:12.15 | kd3 | Dolby, ^ |
| 07:12.21 | Cairenn|afk | o.O |
| 07:13.10 | tekkub | I never liked that guy |
| 07:13.28 | Nechckn | Aezay I need to run right now, but send me a /w if the changes have resolved your issues with tiptac - the release of earlier today, especially.. No rush if you don't know off hand, just let me know, please. =) |
| 07:13.42 | tekkub | he was a total dick about his retarded itemprice addon, then he eventually turned around and did exactly what I told him he should do |
| 07:14.06 | Aezay | Nechckn, need the patch to hit the EU servers first before I can do anything >_> |
| 07:14.09 | Adys | how can you shove an addon up your ass? it's virtual |
| 07:14.31 | Adys | or did you mean something else tekkub |
| 07:14.37 | Cairenn|afk | that sure as hell wasn't what they said when I approved the updates |
| 07:14.46 | Nechckn | Aezay it *should* work on both |
| 07:14.48 | tekkub | Adys: I mean, he was an irrational asshole |
| 07:14.55 | Nechckn | but, either way.. gotta bolt. =) |
| 07:14.55 | Adys | oh. |
| 07:15.15 | tekkub | Cairenn|afk: well we can edit descrptions with approval right? |
| 07:15.20 | Cairenn|afk | yup |
| 07:15.23 | Aezay | Nechckn, sounds good, thanks to you and the "other guys" working on Auctioneer for looking into the problem |
| 07:15.26 | Cairenn|afk | which is why I'm PMing him right now |
| 07:16.09 | tekkub | yea that's curious |
| 07:16.20 | tekkub | any other addons that are similar? |
| 07:17.13 | Aezay | there are 23 EWOlson addons total o_O |
| 07:18.22 | tekkub | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10645-EWOlson_PointsOfInterest.html#comments |
| 07:18.30 | Torhal | Aezay: And they're all something which other addons have done for a long while now. |
| 07:18.31 | tekkub | I think someone hacked his account :P |
| 07:20.00 | tekkub | perhaps not, the domain appears to be his |
| 07:20.01 | tekkub | http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=ewolson.name&prog_id=godaddy |
| 07:20.27 | Torhal | Hmm...wonder how many complaints I'll get about marking Volumizer as "Works with 3.1" when it's true save for the fact that I didn't change the TOC number? |
| 07:21.46 | Jamash | so... change the toc number? |
| 07:21.59 | Aezay | Torhal, well, clicking "Load out of date Addons" is hard, so a lot |
| 07:22.19 | Adys | YES |
| 07:22.21 | Adys | YES IT FUCKING IS |
| 07:22.22 | Cairenn|afk | hrm ... IP addy isn't the same |
| 07:22.39 | Adys | TEN PTR BUILDS damnit, I managed to get OOD addons loaded ONCE |
| 07:22.45 | NeoTron | Got razorwhutnot down |
| 07:22.48 | Adys | and that was luck |
| 07:23.52 | Aezay | NeoTron, grats |
| 07:24.30 | Jamash | razorgore? grats |
| 07:24.37 | Torhal | Jamash: Nah. That would mean I'd have to download my own addon, modify it, then re-upload it after making a simple change. I'd rather finish my working copy then upload that. |
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| 07:25.07 | tekkub | Cairenn|afk: there is one one solution |
| 07:25.12 | tekkub | premature ban! |
| 07:25.20 | Aezay | Is Ulduar "winged" or do you have to do bosses in linear order? |
| 07:25.49 | nevcairiel | There is some linear order |
| 07:25.58 | nevcairiel | but you can choose between bosses |
| 07:26.08 | nevcairiel | And some are optional, too |
| 07:26.27 | Syzgyn | Really? |
| 07:26.32 | Torhal | Bah. Bedtime. Like, two hours ago. |
| 07:26.33 | NeoTron | heh |
| 07:26.36 | NeoTron | two bosses are buggy |
| 07:26.41 | Syzgyn | atleast 2 |
| 07:26.42 | NeoTron | trash on XT and the adds on ignis |
| 07:26.49 | Syzgyn | two that people have gotten to so far |
| 07:26.54 | nevcairiel | both are hotfixed, NeoTron |
| 07:26.59 | Aezay | Always liked the winged approach back when they added it in Naxx, and could never understand why they went away from it again in TBC instances |
| 07:27.11 | Syzgyn | so can you like, skill Ignis and Razorwhatever and go straight into the rest of the instance? |
| 07:27.18 | Syzgyn | skill = skip |
| 07:27.19 | nevcairiel | no |
| 07:27.21 | Adys | Aezay: because |
| 07:27.22 | Adys | in bc |
| 07:27.22 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 07:27.23 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 07:27.27 | nevcairiel | if you meant skip, you can |
| 07:27.31 | nevcairiel | just have to kill the XT-002 |
| 07:27.34 | Syzgyn | right |
| 07:27.35 | Adys | winged instances were hellfire ramparts + shattered halls + blood furnace |
| 07:27.48 | Adys | their idea of "making something nicely winged" |
| 07:27.52 | Adys | BS but then again. |
| 07:27.59 | erikd | blah, this flood prevention on wowi is annoying |
| 07:28.18 | Thunder_Child | whats the / command for whispering your target? |
| 07:28.29 | erikd | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:28.36 | nevcairiel | there is no such command |
| 07:28.40 | nevcairiel | not built-in, anyway |
| 07:28.42 | NeoTron | ok .. so master loot didn't work on flame leviathan |
| 07:28.43 | erikd | oh, blah |
| 07:28.46 | erikd | i should go to bed |
| 07:28.48 | NeoTron | but it worked on the dragon |
| 07:28.50 | Thunder_Child | bah, whats the best way to dynamicly get your targets name? |
| 07:28.53 | NeoTron | which is weird |
| 07:29.00 | nevcairiel | UnitName("Target") ? :) |
| 07:29.06 | Thunder_Child | in a macro? |
| 07:29.18 | nevcairiel | i think in macros you can use %t too |
| 07:29.20 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 07:29.31 | nevcairiel | not too sure about that, though. |
| 07:29.35 | Thunder_Child | i think %t was tried |
| 07:29.39 | Thunder_Child | and no go |
| 07:29.51 | Adys | Thunder_Child: make a memory reader and find your target, get the name, feed it into a middlewarish addon and grab the target with that |
| 07:29.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 07:30.16 | nevcairiel | You can do it using UnitName and SendChatMessage |
| 07:30.21 | Thunder_Child | all the person wants to do is whisper the target htye are casting on |
| 07:30.23 | Aezay | Thunder_Child, SendChatMessage("msg","WHISPER",nil,UnitName("target")) |
| 07:30.31 | Thunder_Child | they* |
| 07:31.01 | Aezay | most chat mods will have a /tt function though |
| 07:31.12 | Thunder_Child | as part of the macro |
| 07:31.19 | Thunder_Child | eg. /cast xxx |
| 07:31.25 | Thunder_Child | /w xxx |
| 07:31.43 | Aezay | yeah |
| 07:32.14 | Adys | some review amazon got |
| 07:32.18 | Adys | "Tricks of the Mind is essential reading for Derren's legions of fans, and pretty bloody irresistible even if you don't like him that much..." |
| 07:32.28 | Aezay | Thunder_Child, But you can use /run SendChatMessage("msg","WHISPER",nil,UnitName("target")) in a macro too |
| 07:33.13 | Thunder_Child | i thought it had to be /script |
| 07:33.21 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:33.27 | Thunder_Child | ah, thanks |
| 07:33.54 | Aezay | I always use run, it's shorter and I am too lazy to press 3 more keys |
| 07:34.21 | Adys | r, u and n are at 3 distinct spots on the keyboard |
| 07:34.28 | Adys | scrt and ip are very close |
| 07:34.36 | Adys | so script is quicker to write than run |
| 07:34.49 | Adys | in your laziness you're losing it |
| 07:37.33 | Elkano | Cairenn|afk, two things: when reviewing my update to FramesResized, mind changing the category from "outdated" to "Graphic UI Mods" and remove the WotLK version? And wrt your news, wasn't the equipment manager removed from 3.1 again? |
| 07:37.52 | nevcairiel | It was |
| 07:37.54 | Cairenn|afk | link, and yes |
| 07:37.59 | nevcairiel | but its still in the patch notes |
| 07:38.08 | bleeter | Cairenn|afk: why does yatlas have such a hideous zip folder name? :P |
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| 07:38.29 | Cairenn|afk | but I haven't gotten a chance to fix the version of the notes on our site, I've been kinda swamped |
| 07:40.21 | Elkano | the one to remove: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10447-ElkanosFramesResized-WotLK.html |
| 07:40.37 | Elkano | the one to change cat: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4547-ElkanosFramesResized.html |
| 07:40.45 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn|afk, :( http://i.gizmodo.com/5212393/nasa-names-treadmill-not-toilet-after-stephen-colbert |
| 07:41.00 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 07:41.36 | Wobin | lol@terrible server stability |
| 07:42.18 | Thunder_Child | http://i.gizmodo.com/5212229/the-ba+k+47-doesnt-fire-bullets-but-it-does-slay-peta-activists |
| 07:42.42 | Wobin | Is... |
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| 07:42.45 | Wobin | that a ... |
| 07:42.46 | Wobin | bacon gun? |
| 07:42.49 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 07:42.55 | bleeter | hmm it'd seem FreeDownloadManager don't like this new WoWI setup much, if I queue downloads too fast from my Favourites too fast I end up with a bunch of programs named download(x).php Anyone had any luck with any other free open source download managers? |
| 07:43.00 | Wobin | or a bacon... covered... gun? |
| 07:43.07 | bleeter | *from my Favourites list |
| 07:43.21 | zenzio | Wobin: to make shooting yourself through your mouth a more pleasant experience |
| 07:43.36 | Wobin | *POW* nomnomnom |
| 07:43.44 | Adys | so uh |
| 07:43.48 | Adys | what was the 8th most popular one? |
| 07:44.25 | Cairenn|afk | Aezay: thanks for catching that, they've all been disabled until I can find out what's going on |
| 07:44.32 | Cairenn|afk | wondering if he got hacked or something |
| 07:44.56 | bleeter | restarting partial download converts it to a captcha request :( |
| 07:45.12 | bleeter | folks tell me to stfu if you've already covered download manager issues today |
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| 07:48.17 | Wobin | I dunno why people are complaining, the WoWUI Manager works fine for me |
| 07:48.53 | Fisker- | boom headshots |
| 07:49.44 | NightHawkTheSane | manually updating works great for me |
| 07:49.57 | bleeter | Wobin: does the WoWUI manager assist syncronising between three client computers and two WoW accounts? |
| 07:50.34 | bleeter | WTB: Blizzard AddOn Store... ffs |
| 07:50.55 | Wobin | No |
| 07:51.02 | Wobin | But you should just share the addons folder =) |
| 07:51.23 | Fisker- | stop stealing my addon store idea |
| 07:51.25 | Fisker- | i better patent it |
| 07:53.00 | bleeter | Wobin: share? across public internet? IN .AU? *ARE YOU MAD??* |
| 07:53.21 | Wobin | bleeter: yes? |
| 07:53.28 | bleeter | oh ok then |
| 07:53.31 | Wobin | "You're insane my child, quite insane" |
| 07:53.34 | Wobin | "I think she's right..." |
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| 08:04.40 | Jamash | ssh ftw |
| 08:05.11 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, set up your own vpn then |
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| 08:13.30 | NeoTron | XT-002 Deconstructor |
| 08:13.37 | NeoTron | oops. her voice is awesomesauce |
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| 08:35.32 | tlund | nevcairiel: wouldnt it be nice to wait for ALL servers to get 3.1 before removing the 3.0 checks from sraidframes? i know US and EU are up, but not everyone else yet(?) I saw someone else do the same thing yesterday, before EU was patched, but that person was not on IRC, thats why I am "complaining" to you ;) |
| 08:36.02 | zenzio | everyone else? The Chinese? |
| 08:36.11 | zenzio | wait, they're not even on 3 |
| 08:36.13 | nevcairiel | Most of my addons don't even have a 3.1 check because it would be too complicated |
| 08:36.19 | nevcairiel | want me to wait releasing fixes too? |
| 08:36.25 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 08:37.05 | nevcairiel | The chinese are month behind us, can't wait for them. And Taiwan/Korea get patched tomorrow, afaik. |
| 08:37.23 | nevcairiel | Like EU, they should know not to update today :D |
| 08:37.26 | zenzio | they have separate servers? |
| 08:37.34 | nevcairiel | I believe so. |
| 08:37.52 | zenzio | hm. For some reason I imagined they'd just play on Oceanics |
| 08:37.57 | zenzio | or even US |
| 08:38.37 | Jamash | eww |
| 08:39.23 | Jamash | it's bad enough making the aussies play on US servers, there'd be riots in korea/china if they had to as well |
| 08:39.40 | nevcairiel | some do anyway |
| 08:40.20 | Shirik | nevcairiel: More than a month :) |
| 08:40.32 | Shirik | They still haven't worked out the whole skeleton issue I think |
| 08:40.33 | nevcairiel | i didnt say "a month" |
| 08:40.39 | nevcairiel | i said "month" |
| 08:40.46 | zenzio | I can understand why China have their own, I just didn't think South-Korea and Taiwan had issues with the US |
| 08:40.50 | Shirik | what does that mean? |
| 08:40.54 | nevcairiel | unless there is a plural form of month that i'm not aware of |
| 08:41.00 | Shirik | months? |
| 08:41.03 | nevcairiel | i guess |
| 08:41.07 | nevcairiel | pronounced the same |
| 08:41.08 | nevcairiel | =P |
| 08:41.18 | Shirik | it's pronounced with an s o.o |
| 08:41.39 | zenzio | I sort of feel for The Seven or whatever the company is called trying to Chinesify WotLK... can you imagine Icecrown without skeletons? |
| 08:41.40 | Shirik | Just curious nevcairiel, are you ESL? I guess I hadn't thought of it before |
| 08:41.41 | nevcairiel | the th already has a s-ish sound to it |
| 08:41.50 | nevcairiel | ESL? |
| 08:41.54 | nevcairiel | like the online gaming thigny? |
| 08:41.56 | nevcairiel | no i'm not |
| 08:41.58 | Shirik | english as a second language |
| 08:42.04 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 08:42.15 | nevcairiel | It is my second, yes. |
| 08:42.19 | nevcairiel | I live in germany =P |
| 08:42.20 | Shirik | you're german right? |
| 08:42.34 | Shirik | doesn't mean anything, I was just curious |
| 08:42.44 | Shirik | because you talk well enough to have originally spoken english imo :) |
| 08:42.52 | krka | ouch, harsh being asked if you're ESL :) |
| 08:43.02 | Shirik | wtf |
| 08:43.07 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 08:43.26 | nevcairiel | I've been chatting on the interwebs for more then 10 years, and i only watch movies/series in english |
| 08:43.55 | nevcairiel | well except its some german comedy movie |
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| 08:44.36 | Aezay | they have a silly habbit of syncronising everything in germany though |
| 08:44.46 | Aezay | voice dubbing |
| 08:44.49 | nevcairiel | That doesnt mean i have to watch it |
| 08:45.20 | nevcairiel | I only watch german productions in german, because its their original language. anything dubbed from english is usually just bad |
| 08:45.47 | Aezay | Are there no plans on changing it? |
| 08:45.49 | bleeter | i thought the chinese were on 3.x, just not WotLK. At least that's how someone explained the wow china homepage lacking wrath foo |
| 08:46.06 | nevcairiel | I think they are, bleeter |
| 08:46.18 | zenzio | hm, interesting |
| 08:46.38 | nevcairiel | man i'll never get work done today |
| 08:46.39 | bleeter | you'd think the wow china page would be more wrath branded than bc |
| 08:47.18 | bleeter | top story in the news section is some netherstorm pic |
| 08:47.27 | tekkub | china doesn't have wrath |
| 08:47.39 | nevcairiel | they are afraid of skeletons |
| 08:47.41 | nevcairiel | and DKs |
| 08:47.47 | tekkub | yup |
| 08:48.03 | bleeter | um oh maybe i just misunderstood nev's response back there >< |
| 08:48.11 | zenzio | how did they do the Frost Wyrms in Mount Hyjal? Or Stratholme/Scholomance? |
| 08:48.13 | tekkub | I'm an asshole, I hope that china's wow ends at BC so I can have my fucking Pandarens |
| 08:48.24 | nevcairiel | wrath without the concept of death knights would be kinda fail |
| 08:48.34 | tekkub | wyrms aren't human |
| 08:48.36 | nevcairiel | bleeter: i was just agreeing with you =) |
| 08:48.36 | Shirik | tekkub, that is indeed an interesting point |
| 08:48.47 | Shirik | if China never approves wotlk the whole panda issue disappears |
| 08:48.52 | zenzio | tekkub: are they okay with skeletons as long as they're not human(oid)? |
| 08:48.54 | tekkub | exactly |
| 08:49.08 | tekkub | china wow has no skeles |
| 08:49.14 | nevcairiel | any default skeleton is humnanoid, except the dead dragons |
| 08:49.24 | tekkub | forsaken chars have no exposed bones |
| 08:49.30 | tekkub | corpses leave gravestones |
| 08:49.53 | zenzio | this is why I ask; Frost Wyrms are pretty much a flying skeleton with some fancy spell graphics on top |
| 08:49.58 | tekkub | frankly I would like to see WG with gravestones all over :) |
| 08:50.00 | Shirik | gravestones? |
| 08:50.01 | Shirik | really? |
| 08:50.04 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 08:50.05 | tekkub | yup |
| 08:50.06 | nevcairiel | its really silly |
| 08:50.09 | Shirik | that's awesome |
| 08:50.16 | tekkub | when you rez you leave a gravestone instead of a skele |
| 08:50.26 | tekkub | WG-gravyard would fucking rock |
| 08:50.37 | zenzio | imagine entering Sapphiron's lair and not seeing the bones all gather up and form the dragon :-( |
| 08:51.03 | tekkub | zenzio: their beef is that they respect the dead, but that only applies so far as humans |
| 08:51.10 | tekkub | so they don't care about dead dragons |
| 08:51.20 | zenzio | tekkub: oh, I see |
| 08:51.26 | Shirik | yeah I mean naxx isn't "new" |
| 08:51.38 | Shirik | they probably already have sapph |
| 08:51.38 | tekkub | it's just their government having a hayday with censorship in the end |
| 08:51.41 | Shirik | I wouldn't know though |
| 08:51.58 | tekkub | actually, with 3.0 naxx is probably gone |
| 08:52.05 | tekkub | they just don't have NR available |
| 08:52.17 | tekkub | still, PANDAS! |
| 08:52.25 | tekkub | down with the chineese government! |
| 08:52.35 | tekkub | oops, I just got our channel blocked in china |
| 08:53.08 | tekkub | they've blocked github a few times, we don't know why, can only assume someone's code pissed them off |
| 08:53.22 | zenzio | they'll ignore that comment tekkub; we bash the US enough in here that the Chinese government would like us |
| 08:53.33 | Aezay | chineese undead http://wow.gamona.de/images/news_guides/news/Chinese_Undead_Models_LOGO.jpg |
| 08:53.33 | Shirik | lol |
| 08:53.35 | tekkub | true that |
| 08:53.57 | Shirik | he doesn't even look that undead, Aezay :( |
| 08:53.58 | tekkub | what a patch job |
| 08:54.09 | tekkub | and I don't mean patch job like the abominations |
| 08:54.33 | tekkub | it looks like somone just stuck gause baindaids over the rotted spots |
| 08:54.49 | Shirik | IS ok |
| 08:54.59 | Shirik | that's how you mend compound fractures really |
| 08:55.06 | Shirik | just put enough bandaids to cover the bone |
| 08:55.55 | tekkub | STOP USING YOUR LOGIC |
| 08:56.29 | Shirik | tekkub |
| 08:56.39 | Shirik | that was one of the most illogical things I've said in a while |
| 08:56.52 | Shirik | (logically speaking, of course) |
| 08:57.07 | tekkub | that's why I want you to stop using your logic |
| 08:57.09 | tekkub | it's broken |
| 08:57.12 | tekkub | DUH |
| 08:57.58 | Shirik | stabs tekkub |
| 08:58.05 | Shirik | tekkub has not had enough bacon today |
| 08:58.11 | tekkub | BACON! |
| 08:58.16 | tekkub | I had tacos |
| 08:58.26 | Shirik | actually that sounds really good |
| 08:58.26 | tekkub | *ponder* |
| 08:58.28 | Shirik | bacon taco |
| 08:58.40 | tekkub | next time I have tacos, I'm throwing bacon bits on it |
| 08:58.43 | Shirik | you could do it |
| 08:59.14 | tekkub | I mean, it's just meat and cheese and sourcream, that's a hamburger and a baked potato together, and bacon is needed on both |
| 08:59.18 | tekkub | the logic is perfect |
| 08:59.22 | tekkub | unlike Shirik's |
| 08:59.38 | Shirik | ew |
| 08:59.40 | Shirik | sour cream |
| 08:59.45 | Shirik | nasty stuff |
| 09:00.54 | tekkub | nah, SC is good in moderation |
| 09:01.03 | tekkub | just to add flavor |
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| 09:06.06 | Dolby | sour cream and bacon |
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| 09:07.00 | haste | ~wowalert |
| 09:07.01 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
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| 09:07.40 | Guest72679 | brighthouse is so worthless |
| 09:08.11 | sacarasc | Yay! Shirik is back! |
| 09:08.27 | Shirik | I know you all missed me immensely |
| 09:08.53 | haste | Shirik was gone? |
| 09:10.51 | Shirik | haste you are not cool |
| 09:10.58 | Shirik | sacarasc is cool |
| 09:11.19 | haste | your opinions are reversed! |
| 09:11.30 | sacarasc | haste speaks the truth. |
| 09:11.40 | Mike-N-Go | I am still loading the patch, but have any of yah noticed any differences with casting macros? |
| 09:11.52 | Shirik | yes |
| 09:12.05 | Shirik | they take 10x as long to run because omg lag |
| 09:12.16 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 09:12.25 | Mike-N-Go | Shirik: OMG |
| 09:12.38 | Adys | http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=9796 |
| 09:12.42 | Adys | i dont know if thats cute or bad |
| 09:14.00 | Shirik | I think it's cute ^^ |
| 09:14.24 | Adys | MICROWAVE-FRIED EGGS |
| 09:14.26 | Adys | I HATE JAPAN |
| 09:14.28 | Adys | Ugghhhhhhhhhh |
| 09:14.36 | Shirik | I love japan :( |
| 09:14.44 | Shirik | If I were to ever leave the US, Japan would be my choice, reallyt |
| 09:15.12 | tekkub | I have only one bitch about japan |
| 09:15.22 | tekkub | their retarded porn laws |
| 09:15.29 | tekkub | I WANT TO SEE THE COCK |
| 09:15.41 | sacarasc | Shirik: So you can be alone and ignored by Japanese people? |
| 09:15.51 | Shirik | I wasn't ignored when I was there :/ |
| 09:16.18 | Shirik | however it would be interesting being in the minority for once |
| 09:16.50 | tekkub | Shirik: welcome to my world |
| 09:16.59 | tekkub | hell I'm a minority inside my minority |
| 09:17.29 | sacarasc | tekkub is a living "Yo dawg" meme. :( |
| 09:17.53 | tekkub | yo dawg? |
| 09:18.00 | tekkub | stupid memes |
| 09:18.04 | tekkub | fail meme fails |
| 09:18.41 | amro | http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=9763 |
| 09:18.58 | amro | interesting, they have face masks but don't mind high fiving a random guy |
| 09:20.30 | Shirik | hm |
| 09:20.33 | tekkub | "a high five" fail |
| 09:20.34 | Shirik | that video kinda fails amro |
| 09:20.38 | tekkub | I wanted him to give me head |
| 09:20.50 | Shirik | They're using the wrong character set |
| 09:21.07 | Shirik | (at least at the beginning) |
| 09:21.17 | tekkub | people wearing masks is funny |
| 09:21.19 | amro | Shirik: which sign? |
| 09:21.32 | amro | as far as I saw, only "Bill" was in katakana |
| 09:22.28 | Shirik | I take it back |
| 09:22.30 | Shirik | yes |
| 09:22.46 | Shirik | It went by too fast I misread it I guess |
| 09:24.50 | Shirik | I am pretty impressed by the sheer percentage of people willing to do it though |
| 09:25.26 | tekkub | especially the ones in masks :) |
| 09:25.44 | tekkub | I don't want to breath your air, but I'll touch your hand! |
| 09:26.05 | tekkub | okeybedtime |
| 09:26.10 | Shirik | nightynight |
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| 09:34.39 | Grum | mmz why is wowi not working .. cant download anything :( |
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| 09:35.37 | Shirik | ? |
| 09:35.45 | Shirik | what do you mean |
| 09:35.51 | Grum | the Download button just doesn't work |
| 09:36.04 | Grum | and my status bar keeps stating: "Loading Java Applet ...' |
| 09:36.20 | Mike-N-Go | Grum: Might be something with your user agent and the new thing to block WM. |
| 09:36.29 | Shirik | sounds like your java is broken |
| 09:36.29 | Grum | o.O |
| 09:36.34 | Grum | my java isnt broken |
| 09:36.35 | Shirik | what browser do you use, and what OS are you on? |
| 09:36.38 | Grum | works on every other site |
| 09:36.44 | Shirik | Every other site doesn't use java |
| 09:36.47 | Mike-N-Go | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22069 |
| 09:36.51 | Grum | XS 64bit SP3, Firefox latest 3.X |
| 09:36.56 | Grum | eerr X{ |
| 09:36.59 | Grum | P!!! >< |
| 09:37.04 | Shirik | ok, the 64-bit likely causes the problem. Verify that you are on Java update 13 |
| 09:37.10 | Shirik | It was JUST released, so you probably do not have it |
| 09:37.13 | Grum | kk |
| 09:37.31 | Shirik | Alternatively, if you log in you will not have to use the java applet (for now) |
| 09:37.50 | Shirik | actually Grum I'm seeming to have a similar issue |
| 09:37.51 | Grum | hmmzm where to find that java runtime :D |
| 09:37.58 | Shirik | maybe it went missing |
| 09:38.08 | Grum | ah found it |
| 09:38.08 | Shirik | wait nm |
| 09:38.10 | Shirik | I'm just blind |
| 09:38.10 | Shirik | lol |
| 09:38.18 | Shirik | anyway, yeah, java.com |
| 09:38.25 | Shirik | Java 6 update 13 JRE is what you want |
| 09:39.08 | Shirik | Does firefox have a 64-bit browser? |
| 09:39.26 | Grum | not sure; my browser string should be: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.2; en-US; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/3.0.8 |
| 09:39.26 | Shirik | If so, make sure you're using the 64-bit one, too. I'm not sure what firefox will do if it encounters a 64-bit java and 32-bit client |
| 09:39.47 | Fisker- | so wowi got a client now? :3 |
| 09:39.55 | Shirik | huh? |
| 09:40.12 | Fisker- | oh |
| 09:40.27 | Grum | ``You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 13).`` |
| 09:40.28 | Grum | jeej |
| 09:40.49 | Shirik | ok |
| 09:40.59 | Shirik | do me a favor Grum and try it in the Internet Explorer (64 bit) version? |
| 09:41.01 | Cairenn|afk | ummm, Xinhuan ... do you know that Omen is now on WM? |
| 09:41.02 | Shirik | browser* |
| 09:41.13 | Grum | Shirik: no sorry |
| 09:41.17 | Grum | not starting that thing up :P |
| 09:41.20 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 09:41.28 | Grum | its unpatched, version 7.low |
| 09:41.34 | Shirik | well beyond that, I can't help you |
| 09:41.38 | Grum | it works :) |
| 09:41.43 | Shirik | it does? |
| 09:41.46 | Shirik | You didn't even do anything |
| 09:41.58 | Grum | i installed 6.13 :) |
| 09:42.00 | Grum | and poof worky! |
| 09:42.06 | Shirik | I thought you said it was already installed :/ |
| 09:42.09 | Shirik | ok then good :) |
| 09:42.18 | Grum | that was after i updated =D |
| 09:42.33 | Grum | so cheers for pointing it out |
| 09:42.45 | Shirik | I'm honestly disappointed in Sun |
| 09:42.53 | Shirik | they JUST fixed the 64-bit applet plugin |
| 09:43.00 | Shirik | that's been needed for like... years |
| 09:43.14 | Shirik | better late than never though I guess |
| 09:43.19 | Grum | what about 64bit native flash? |
| 09:43.29 | zenzio | I wouldn't expect Sun to do that ;-o |
| 09:43.35 | amro | what about it? it's not like 32bit flash works. |
| 09:43.41 | Shirik | lol |
| 09:43.51 | Grum | well ... true =D |
| 09:44.24 | foxlit | "Shirik: they JUST fixed the 64-bit applet plugin" << There's no 64-bit safari |
| 09:44.26 | Grum | awwws the download button now has a nice adblock /Block\ tab on it :p |
| 09:44.34 | Grum | safari is fail in either case |
| 09:44.41 | foxlit | In other words, if you're seriously relying on in-browser Java6, you're failing on Macs. |
| 09:44.57 | Grum | because there is no firefox for a mac ;) |
| 09:45.18 | Grum | its the same with microsoft, you dont use internet explorer, you dont use safari ;D |
| 09:45.32 | amro | the difference is that safari isn't a horror |
| 09:45.42 | Grum | meh |
| 09:46.37 | foxlit | Are you certain that FF is any better? |
| 09:47.10 | Grum | i dont use safari at all on my mac |
| 09:47.14 | pnorman | From a standards compliance or end user quality point of view, Safari and FF are pretty much the same for most people. |
| 09:48.04 | foxlit | Grum: I'm not really interested in what you do or don't use |
| 09:48.24 | Xinhuan | [4/15 17:40:46] <@Cairenn|afk> ummm, Xinhuan ... do you know that Omen is now on WM? |
| 09:48.25 | Xinhuan | what?? |
| 09:48.46 | Cairenn|afk | (2009-04-15 05:40:15) Dolby: omen now on WM |
| 09:48.46 | Cairenn|afk | (2009-04-15 05:41:22) Cairenn: just told Xin in the lounge |
| 09:48.46 | Cairenn|afk | (2009-04-15 05:41:35) Dolby: hosted by WM |
| 09:48.55 | Grum | o.O |
| 09:49.09 | Xinhuan | hosted by WM meaning, they have their own distribution server now? |
| 09:49.21 | Cairenn|afk | xperl is up there now too, apparently |
| 09:49.24 | Shirik | yes Xinhuan |
| 09:49.26 | Shirik | with very few files |
| 09:49.29 | Shirik | but Omen is one of them |
| 09:49.33 | Grum | o.O |
| 09:49.42 | Xinhuan | sigh |
| 09:49.44 | Cairenn|afk | (just like they used to do/have) |
| 09:49.57 | foxlit | in either case, FF just fails on the WoWI applet |
| 09:50.05 | Grum | Xinhuan: start tagging new Omen releases with something unique, so that if you get back bugreports on their version ... you can just tell them to go fuck themselves :) |
| 09:50.08 | foxlit | It displays a box. Which does nothing. |
| 09:50.11 | Shirik | foxlit: Btw |
| 09:50.14 | Shirik | Tested on macs |
| 09:50.17 | Shirik | It works fine |
| 09:50.21 | Grum | foxlit: and you are using the latest java? |
| 09:50.23 | Shirik | We tested that long time ago |
| 09:50.25 | Grum | i wasnt therefor it didnt work |
| 09:50.29 | Xinhuan | that wouldn't be very useful grum |
| 09:50.44 | pnorman | what's omen's license? |
| 09:50.44 | foxlit | I am. |
| 09:50.47 | Shirik | The reason Grum had to update to J6U13 is due to Sun's failure of including the plugin API in earlier J6REs |
| 09:50.48 | Cairenn|afk | Xinhuan: http://www.wowinterface.com/storage/faq/DMCAtakedown.doc, if you want it |
| 09:50.58 | Xinhuan | pnorman, all rights reserved |
| 09:51.08 | foxlit | Shirik: Sun's updates are irrelevant on this platform anyway :) |
| 09:51.13 | Shirik | exactly |
| 09:51.17 | Cairenn|afk | you'll have to change the appropriate things, that's from when Clad went after Wowkon |
| 09:51.18 | Shirik | Apple has always included the plugin |
| 09:51.22 | Shirik | so you should have no problem |
| 09:51.22 | Xinhuan | i can't deal with it now, in ulduar now |
| 09:51.24 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 09:51.29 | foxlit | Shirik: But anyway, want a screenshot of an empty box that does nothing? |
| 09:51.33 | Cairenn|afk | just letting you know :) |
| 09:51.37 | foxlit | (or can you imagine what that looks like?) |
| 09:51.38 | pnorman | I've done DMCA notices, could draft one for you if you want |
| 09:51.39 | Shirik | So you're having a problem? |
| 09:51.46 | foxlit | Yes, firefox. |
| 09:51.49 | Shirik | Are you given an error? |
| 09:51.51 | pnorman | Actually, too late for me. |
| 09:51.58 | foxlit | No. |
| 09:52.12 | Grum | those folks at wowmatrix really have no shame o.O |
| 09:52.19 | Shirik | no error? |
| 09:52.26 | foxlit | No error. |
| 09:52.28 | Shirik | it just decides to give up? |
| 09:52.39 | foxlit | It just does nothing. I'm not sure it even tries. |
| 09:52.53 | Shirik | does it work on safari? |
| 09:53.02 | foxlit | That it does. |
| 09:53.15 | Shirik | something's jacked up |
| 09:53.18 | foxlit | Clips through the donation overlay, then works. |
| 09:53.37 | Grum | foxlit: use firefox, it just works here without a problem (10.5.6) |
| 09:53.57 | Grum | i wonder if it works with safari :P |
| 09:54.01 | foxlit | Grum: "foxlit: in either case, FF just fails on the WoWI applet" |
| 09:54.15 | Grum | then you are stuck with an old version of something |
| 09:54.41 | foxlit | Not the case either. |
| 09:55.17 | foxlit | So anyway, I'm not that bothered -- I'm logged in most of the time anyway |
| 09:55.55 | Adys | border-right-width-rtl-source:physical; |
| 09:55.59 | Adys | What the fuck does that mean? |
| 09:56.41 | Grum | foxlit: it appears i dont have the latest java, i still got this update pending: ava for Mac OS X 10.5 Update 3 delivers improvements to the security and compatibility of Java on Mac OS X 10.5.6 and later. |
| 09:57.42 | pnorman | Recount is also on WM by the looks of it |
| 09:57.43 | Shirik | foxlit: Do you have Java 6 btw? |
| 09:57.47 | Shirik | Or Java 5? |
| 09:58.03 | Shirik | (I wrote it with Java 4 so the question isn't directly related, but there's a reason I'm asking I promise) |
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| 10:02.29 | jnwhiteh_ | nickserv identify Nercaknogs |
| 10:02.31 | foxlit | Shirik: both |
| 10:02.33 | jnwhiteh_ | or not |
| 10:02.42 | Shirik | ohi jnwhiteh |
| 10:02.46 | jnwhiteh_ | This irc client is terrible |
| 10:03.00 | Shirik | Your password has no numbers in it. Very disappointing |
| 10:03.29 | jnwhiteh_ | Anyone else notice that wowI is not sending emails for comments and such? |
| 10:03.46 | jnwhiteh_ | Actually it does' I just don't recall them |
| 10:03.54 | Shirik | foxlit: So you do have java 6 installed |
| 10:03.59 | Shirik | Are you running 64 bit firefox? |
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| 10:04.17 | foxlit | That I have no idea about |
| 10:04.42 | Shirik | If I could have the details of your firefox install then we would be able to duplicate the problem (hopefully) and address it |
| 10:04.59 | foxlit | There's nothing actually unusual about that |
| 10:05.25 | foxlit | There's more or less one version you can easily download from mozilla, and that's the one (plus subsequent updates) that I suspect I have |
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| 10:12.39 | Shirik | in actuality |
| 10:12.51 | Shirik | foxlit should just get with the rest of the cool world and use chrome imo |
| 10:12.58 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 10:13.39 | foxlit | Be grateful it's not lynx |
| 10:13.48 | Shirik | lol |
| 10:13.53 | nevcairiel | lynx with java! |
| 10:13.54 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 10:14.14 | Shirik | omg that would be a great idea |
| 10:14.23 | Shirik | make a text-based JVM |
| 10:14.31 | Shirik | its rendererer goes through an ASCII engine |
| 10:14.34 | Shirik | even for GUI components |
| 10:15.37 | krka | there already are ascii based guis |
| 10:15.47 | Shirik | do they work with Java? |
| 10:15.55 | Shirik | if so, how do we get that support in links? |
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| 10:18.12 | krka | not sure, but i suppose you could do a look-and-feel for java in ascii |
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| 10:19.27 | zenzio | the download captcha on WoWI seems to be trying to subliminally affect my actions |
| 10:19.31 | zenzio | it told me to "Fund France" |
| 10:19.59 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:21.15 | jnwhiteh_ | aha |
| 10:21.21 | jnwhiteh_ | that's amusing |
| 10:24.11 | jnwhiteh_ | when does the captcha show up? Just non-logged in users? |
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| 10:27.33 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: the captcha is a fallback for the flash/java |
| 10:29.14 | jnwhiteh_ | Ah I figured, it's good that the system is working |
| 10:29.29 | jnwhiteh_ | Hopefully this drama will end soon |
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| 10:30.55 | Teomyr | "Unicode is an encoding standard in which all characters are two bytes long." >_< |
| 10:31.43 | Etanol | oooo! |
| 10:31.54 | Etanol | the donate ad on wowinterface is BRILLIANT! |
| 10:32.06 | Etanol | I wanted to press it immediately :D |
| 10:32.16 | Etanol | but I have no e-payments card |
| 10:32.24 | Etanol | sorry, Great Mod Authors |
| 10:32.30 | jnwhiteh_ | Lol |
| 10:33.12 | jnwhiteh_ | Methinks we need a sexual favours button |
| 10:33.39 | nevcairiel | do we get photos before we accept those? |
| 10:33.44 | zenzio | Teomyr: sadly there is a lot of misunderstandings floating around surrounding Unicode. Took a long while before I learned that even UTF-16 is multibyte |
| 10:34.06 | Teomyr | zenzio: yeah :( |
| 10:34.21 | Etanol | multibait!!??? |
| 10:34.21 | nevcairiel | UTF-16 was fixed width, or? |
| 10:34.27 | Etanol | doublefish |
| 10:34.28 | jnwhiteh_ | yeah I don't understand where the confusion comes from, its a really simple system. |
| 10:34.30 | zenzio | nevcairiel: no |
| 10:34.39 | zenzio | UTF-16 is *minimum* 2 bytes, can be more |
| 10:34.45 | Teomyr | UCS-2 is fixed width |
| 10:34.45 | nevcairiel | ah, that was it then |
| 10:34.51 | Teomyr | (and obsolete) |
| 10:34.55 | nevcairiel | I've only had to deal with UTF-8 |
| 10:35.22 | nevcairiel | which is at least ASCII compatible, or however you call it |
| 10:35.39 | Etanol | define ladderfork |
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| 10:40.29 | Etanol | ~define ladderfork |
| 10:40.30 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 10:40.38 | Etanol | ~dict ladderfork |
| 10:44.20 | bleeter | Wobin: does US/LA include Oceania? |
| 10:44.31 | WobNet | ? |
| 10:44.35 | WobNet | howso |
| 10:44.39 | bleeter | Alert |
| 10:44.47 | WobNet | ~wowalert |
| 10:44.48 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 10:45.02 | WobNet | yes |
| 10:45.14 | bleeter | k, now... |
| 10:45.22 | WobNet | Oceaniaa is never separate except for actual shutdown times |
| 10:45.24 | bleeter | compare http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16409961570&sid=1 |
| 10:45.32 | bleeter | which specifies US/LA |
| 10:45.56 | bleeter | shrugs |
| 10:46.26 | WobNet | well |
| 10:46.31 | WobNet | I know Caelestraz |
| 10:46.35 | WobNet | is in the LA cluster |
| 10:46.50 | WobNet | So I assume all the rest of them are as well |
| 10:47.04 | WobNet | http://www.wowwiki.com/US_realm_list_by_datacenter#Los_Angeles_datacenter |
| 10:47.09 | bleeter | Wobin: so I asked the CSF duty GM if that meant I can run a casino on odds of whether US/LA includes oceania or not |
| 10:47.22 | bleeter | LA is Latin American realms |
| 10:47.26 | WobNet | oh |
| 10:47.44 | WobNet | then I dunno |
| 10:47.57 | bleeter | btw, horde or allies on cael? |
| 10:48.09 | WobNet | me? |
| 10:48.14 | WobNet | ally |
| 10:48.21 | bleeter | kk |
| 10:48.23 | WobNet | I think I may have one toon left there =P |
| 10:48.31 | WobNet | mostly on Proudmoore now |
| 10:48.37 | WobNet | hordeside |
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| 10:54.39 | Etanol | ~wow |
| 10:54.40 | purl | I have no life |
| 10:54.47 | Etanol | hahahah |
| 10:54.58 | Etanol | who taught you that, purl? |
| 10:55.03 | Etanol | we all love you very much!! |
| 10:55.21 | Etanol | or smth |
| 10:57.01 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/96422891 |
| 10:57.19 | WobNet | the sad thing is |
| 10:57.31 | WobNet | gmg doesn't make the comic any funnier |
| 10:58.07 | WobNet | and it really needs the original strip to compare to |
| 10:58.45 | Etanol | where's the Secrets of Ulduar wallpaper? |
| 10:59.39 | Etanol | found its |
| 11:00.12 | Adys | WobNet: http://www.readaboutcomics.com/2009/02/23/garfield-minus-garfield/ |
| 11:01.17 | WobNet | oh I know what it is |
| 11:02.13 | WobNet | ah, the book |
| 11:02.28 | WobNet | I don't think I like it quite enough to buy it =P |
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| 11:02.54 | laeg | aw man! i just wanted a quick game of warcraft before going out, not to download a 800mb patch! |
| 11:02.57 | laeg | shakes his fist |
| 11:03.03 | WobNet | welcome to 3.1 |
| 11:03.19 | WobNet | wait.. game of warcraft? |
| 11:03.28 | laeg | :) |
| 11:03.35 | Adys | yeah log in for a quick server. |
| 11:05.02 | Adys | what the FUCK |
| 11:05.02 | Kalroth | kinky |
| 11:05.06 | Adys | slashdot newsing 3.1? |
| 11:05.17 | Kalroth | well duh? |
| 11:05.43 | Adys | they dont news MMO patches |
| 11:05.46 | Adys | ever |
| 11:05.54 | Kalroth | http://slashdot.org/~Kalroth/achievements check the last achievement! |
| 11:06.11 | WobNet | what's another word for Twitter? |
| 11:06.12 | Adys | well duh |
| 11:06.18 | Adys | WobNet: bullshit |
| 11:06.21 | WobNet | hehe level 80 |
| 11:06.49 | WobNet | or maybe an alternative word for it |
| 11:06.53 | WobNet | like Chirp |
| 11:06.58 | laeg | pap |
| 11:07.31 | WobNet | Peep? =) |
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| 11:09.05 | WobNet | Squawk will do |
| 11:09.33 | Adys | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/3435017760_58c8d8e78f_o.jpg |
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| 11:18.28 | tem | Adys, that looks like it was translated into another language |
| 11:18.33 | tem | and then translated back to english |
| 11:18.36 | tem | ... poorly |
| 11:18.44 | Adys | thats exactly what happened |
| 11:18.52 | Adys | its translated english => japanese => english |
| 11:18.53 | Adys | afk |
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| 11:27.20 | WobNet | What does GetTime return? Server tiime? |
| 11:29.22 | nevcairiel | !api GetTime |
| 11:29.22 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'GetTime' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetTime |
| 11:29.34 | nevcairiel | The number itself doesn't correspond to any useful value |
| 11:29.35 | nevcairiel | :( |
| 11:29.39 | WobNet | huh |
| 11:29.57 | nevcairiel | Its probably uptime since system start |
| 11:30.04 | WobNet | but is it consistant between itself? |
| 11:30.09 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 11:30.19 | WobNet | but possibly only within a certain timeframe |
| 11:30.25 | WobNet | like since reboot |
| 11:30.27 | WobNet | okay |
| 11:30.34 | WobNet | do we have a system time function? |
| 11:30.42 | nevcairiel | Well its consistent if you want to take measurements that are not persistent accross sessions |
| 11:30.48 | nevcairiel | lua> time() |
| 11:30.48 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'time' (a nil value) |
| 11:30.53 | nevcairiel | lua> os.time() |
| 11:30.53 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 1239795052 |
| 11:31.04 | nevcairiel | unix timestamp |
| 11:31.09 | WobNet | ah good good |
| 11:31.18 | WobNet | that's server time right? |
| 11:31.22 | nevcairiel | no, local |
| 11:31.39 | nevcairiel | GetGameTime is server, but only hours and minutes |
| 11:31.41 | nevcairiel | no seconds |
| 11:31.53 | nevcairiel | hour, minute = GetGameTime() |
| 11:32.12 | nevcairiel | You can combine that with GetTime or something similar to get accurate server time |
| 11:32.16 | nevcairiel | there was a snippet on wowwiki |
| 11:32.41 | WobNet | hm |
| 11:32.50 | WobNet | I can get date details from the calender api |
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| 11:33.23 | WobNet | gettime according to wowwiki is -local- server uptime |
| 11:35.32 | WobNet | good good |
| 11:35.34 | WobNet | bbiab |
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| 11:41.32 | shaithus | Hi. I am trying to debug an issue with a mod that worked fine pre 3.1. It uses a ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter("CHAT_MSG_WHISPER", myfunc) and then function myfunc(msg) The problem is that for some reason the msg variable appears to be a table (hash as near as I can tell)...while _G.arg1 is the actual text...any ideas why this would happen? |
| 11:43.05 | nevcairiel | shaithus: your filter gets called with (self, event, arg1, arg2, arg3,....,arg11) |
| 11:43.13 | nevcairiel | self being the ChatFrame which received the evnet |
| 11:43.17 | nevcairiel | *event |
| 11:43.39 | nevcairiel | so you could have to change your myfunc to say myfunc(self, event, msg) |
| 11:43.43 | nevcairiel | and it should work again |
| 11:43.56 | shaithus | Ah, was that a change with 3.1? |
| 11:44.28 | nevcairiel | I do think the self was passed before |
| 11:44.30 | nevcairiel | but i could be wrong |
| 11:44.47 | nevcairiel | oh, no, it wasnt |
| 11:44.53 | nevcairiel | well its a 3.1 change then =) |
| 11:45.21 | shaithus | Where would I look to find updated 3.1 information on things like this? I have been googling for over 90 minutes before I resorted to bugging this channel... |
| 11:46.00 | nevcairiel | Usually the official UI Forums |
| 11:46.07 | nevcairiel | or forums at WoWInterface |
| 11:46.20 | nevcairiel | or look through the new FrameXML code.. :) |
| 11:46.29 | shaithus | Ah. |
| 11:46.47 | shaithus | Wonderful. Lol. Well, I appreciate the help. |
| 11:47.29 | shaithus | The joy of maintaining the guild dkp mod before work... wow lua is killing me |
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| 11:48.40 | nevcairiel | good that you mentioned those changes now though, so i could fix my chat mod |
| 11:49.06 | shaithus | Eh, latest version of chatter is solid. |
| 11:49.38 | nevcairiel | I use a home brew chatmod :) |
| 11:49.43 | shaithus | WIM is solid too if you update astrolabe from the svn trunk and overwrite the one in WIM\Libs. not sure if those are the ones you use |
| 11:49.44 | shaithus | Ah |
| 11:49.54 | nevcairiel | wtf does WIM use astrolabe for o.O |
| 11:50.06 | shaithus | very good question...I wondered exactly the same thing |
| 11:50.08 | Wobin | um |
| 11:50.14 | Wobin | GPS? |
| 11:50.37 | Wobin | I got nuthin |
| 11:50.47 | nevcairiel | that would explain why WIM is always so high in the addon spam stats |
| 11:50.56 | nevcairiel | it transmits some shit between users |
| 11:51.01 | nevcairiel | i've always wondered what it does |
| 11:52.53 | shaithus | great addon though, IMO... astrolabe is just a system for converting world locations into 3d gps style coords right? you don't need it to pull the instance or one they are in do you? |
| 11:53.40 | nevcairiel | astrolabe just positions nodes on the world and minimap |
| 11:53.45 | nevcairiel | like, for gatherer |
| 11:53.50 | Etanol | astrolube |
| 11:53.58 | shaithus | yah...only addons I have that us it are gatherer, tomtom, and wim |
| 12:00.43 | shaithus | found it. back in October 2007 the WIM author was planning to use astrolabe to generate a map dot for everyone you have an active chat window for...can't find any reference indicating if he ever did it or not though. |
| 12:01.04 | nevcairiel | apparently he did |
| 12:03.10 | shaithus | out of curiosity is there any way to speed up reloads when developing in wow? The amount of time I spend waiting on the interface to load again is really killing me. |
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| 12:05.06 | nevcairiel | shaithus: turn off other addons ;) |
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| 12:05.24 | krka | and zone to Dev Isles, much less resources there to load |
| 12:05.40 | shaithus | Dev Isles? |
| 12:05.58 | krka | also, you can code as much as possible with TDD outside of wow completely |
| 12:06.50 | Elkano | TDD? |
| 12:06.53 | shaithus | same question. |
| 12:07.00 | shaithus | What are the dev isles, and what is TDD |
| 12:07.18 | krka | test driven development |
| 12:07.41 | shaithus | Oh |
| 12:07.42 | krka | write a test suite for your code, so that if your tests pass, it's likely that your addon will work inside wow too |
| 12:08.03 | shaithus | for what I'm doing /reloadui's are faster :) thanks though |
| 12:08.17 | nevcairiel | Or you're just good at abstract thinking like i am, and you know if your code works or not! |
| 12:08.18 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 12:08.32 | krka | another hint is to atleast run luac -p on your code before reloading |
| 12:08.38 | krka | you'll atleast catch compile errors faster |
| 12:09.12 | nevcairiel | I wish i could hook that into my editor, run on every save, highlight lua errors directly in code |
| 12:09.17 | krka | test driven development is faster in the long term though |
| 12:09.51 | Elkano | but it's hard for GUI stuff though :/ |
| 12:10.33 | krka | true |
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| 12:10.51 | Wobin | hm, I should look into MVC design |
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| 12:12.08 | shaithus | Okay so what is dev isles? |
| 12:12.20 | nevcairiel | isles for devs |
| 12:12.55 | shaithus | alright. where are such found? |
| 12:12.59 | krka | just a fairly empty place for developing, no textures or sound |
| 12:13.35 | krka | you need to be friendly with blizzard to get the teleportation ability to get there |
| 12:13.53 | Trela_ | This is AWESOME! http://www.baconsalt.com/ |
| 12:15.10 | Etanol | Kissy: is it tasty? |
| 12:15.21 | Kissy | No idea. |
| 12:22.39 | Etanol | I am constantly hungry, but I can't eat |
| 12:23.17 | Etanol | ~diagnose etanol |
| 12:25.01 | Elkano | well, 7 beer are a meal, too. and then you heven't even drunk a bit... |
| 12:27.28 | Kraft | Kissy: my housemate has chicken salt and is obsessed with it >< |
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| 12:31.25 | Ycarene | Anyone know what addon might be causing a disconnect upon opening the mailbox? |
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| 12:37.12 | Etanol | 20 minutes |
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| 12:44.53 | Etanol | 15 minutes |
| 12:45.32 | Etanol | start drinking your coffee |
| 12:45.35 | Etanol | ~coffee |
| 12:45.36 | purl | coffee is, like, the reason the net exists, the drug of choice for a GNU generation, http://www.chez.com/emarsden/downloads/coffee.el, /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/Coffee.html, geiseri's favorite beverage |
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| 12:49.48 | Etanol | 10 minutes |
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| 12:51.48 | Lopeppeppy | 5 more minutes! |
| 12:52.00 | Etanol | 8* |
| 12:52.21 | Etanol | don't try to set time, lopeppeppy |
| 12:52.31 | nevcairiel | they wont be on exactly on time |
| 12:52.32 | Etanol | it's protected, static and all kinds of stuff |
| 12:52.55 | Lopeppeppy | Etanol, ever watch any of the Foamy Squirrel cartoons? |
| 12:54.08 | Lopeppeppy | Totally NSFW, but look up "Foamy Squirrel" + "5 more minutes". I adore that psychotic critter. |
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| 12:55.16 | alestane | Not to be confused with that other psychotic critter, Pillsney Squirrel or whatever his name was. |
| 12:55.29 | Lopeppeppy | Pillsey. |
| 12:55.45 | Lopeppeppy | Spelling may vary, but it was because of the medications he was taking, so Pillsey. |
| 12:58.08 | alestane | Is he a relative of the other one? |
| 12:58.22 | Lopeppeppy | I have no information on that aspect of things. |
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| 13:00.07 | Ose | seven EU realms online |
| 13:00.18 | Etanol | Lopeppeppy: I think I might have, why? |
| 13:00.35 | Lopeppeppy | Etanol, totally hilarious cartoons. |
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| 13:05.55 | Adys | ah. |
| 13:06.21 | Kalroth | oh. |
| 13:06.35 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. |
| 13:06.35 | Ose | ih |
| 13:06.44 | Ose | damn, forgot the full stop |
| 13:08.18 | Wobin | Grrr |
| 13:08.24 | Wobin | I keep crashing in Dalaran |
| 13:08.42 | Lopeppeppy | Dalaran sucks. |
| 13:09.36 | sacarasc | Wobin: Drunk driving? |
| 13:13.32 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 13:19.45 | Aelobin | punk in drublic |
| 13:19.59 | Lopeppeppy | Of Wobin, I can believe this. :) |
| 13:20.36 | Wobin | =* |
| 13:21.44 | Lopeppeppy | lurvs Wobin. |
| 13:22.29 | Wobin | only when I'm drunk =( |
| 13:22.47 | Lopeppeppy | Many people turn into punks when they're drunks. |
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| 13:30.30 | mikma | yey grid errors |
| 13:33.06 | zenzio | grid errors rock. So much nicer when things are alinged |
| 13:33.09 | zenzio | or aligned |
| 13:33.22 | Wobin | zootfizzle the npc always makes me do a double take |
| 13:34.10 | Lopeppeppy | Where is he, I haven't seen him yet I don't think.... |
| 13:34.23 | mikma | *RAWR* i can't download my addons anymore with linux+link |
| 13:34.42 | zenzio | isn't Zoot in Sholazar? |
| 13:35.11 | mikma | ye |
| 13:35.23 | Lopeppeppy | Why yes, the part of it I haven't done yet. :) |
| 13:35.34 | zenzio | O_o |
| 13:35.41 | Lopeppeppy | I explores slowly. |
| 13:35.42 | zenzio | you've had months already... bad girl! |
| 13:36.02 | Lopeppeppy | I know, darned girls with real lives! |
| 13:36.14 | zenzio | exactly |
| 13:38.56 | Etanol | pitbull is broken |
| 13:39.03 | cncfanatics | get the updated version |
| 13:39.08 | Etanol | from? |
| 13:39.41 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, Dolby, Cairenn, might be something to keep an eye on... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16409621594&postId=164164145662&sid=1#4 |
| 13:41.35 | cncfanatics | Lopeppeppy: your text is green oO |
| 13:41.39 | cncfanatics | nerf |
| 13:41.51 | Lopeppeppy | Darlin', it has been for over a year. Where have YOU been? :P |
| 13:42.03 | cncfanatics | not on the US forums, obviously :p |
| 13:42.17 | Lopeppeppy | Ob'v'sly! |
| 13:42.46 | cncfanatics | also, I'm bored >.> |
| 13:42.52 | cncfanatics | giefv my realm back up so I can mess with ma addons |
| 13:43.12 | Lopeppeppy | NO! |
| 13:44.33 | Lopeppeppy | Just kidding, if I could I would. |
| 13:44.51 | cncfanatics | but, but, you can ! |
| 13:44.59 | cncfanatics | you're the one pushing the big "put realm offline" button ! |
| 13:45.05 | Legorol | woot, EU realms are up |
| 13:45.11 | cncfanatics | Legorol: mine ain't atm :( |
| 13:45.13 | Legorol | and serious bug with in-game talent display: |
| 13:45.18 | sacarasc | *some EU realms are up |
| 13:45.22 | Legorol | I have a 10/5/54 spec according to it |
| 13:45.30 | Legorol | and no more points to spend |
| 13:45.32 | cncfanatics | u sure its not talented messing up ? :p |
| 13:45.40 | Legorol | talented? |
| 13:45.43 | Legorol | is that an addon |
| 13:45.48 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 13:45.51 | Legorol | don't have it |
| 13:46.16 | Lopeppeppy | If you have any addons, disable them and check again. The weirdest things can interfere. |
| 13:46.31 | Lopeppeppy | And if you still see it, then somehow you didn't get your talent refund. |
| 13:46.33 | cncfanatics | if you are sure its blizzard, go reset ur talents at a trainer :p |
| 13:46.44 | Legorol | Lopeppeppy: i'm not a regular sheeple |
| 13:46.48 | Legorol | i'm an extraordinary sheeple :) |
| 13:47.05 | Lopeppeppy | Well, do extraordinary things then! Show us your wool. |
| 13:47.21 | Legorol | :) |
| 13:47.35 | Legorol | and yes ofc the first thing i did was to nuke the holy trinity |
| 13:48.24 | Lopeppeppy | If you still don't have talent points, they screwed up and somehow didn't refund them like the patch was supposed to do, I would guess. GM time. |
| 13:48.26 | Lopeppeppy | Poor GMS |
| 13:48.46 | Legorol | Lopeppeppy: ok the symptom is this: talent calculator in-game shows i have spent 10/5/54 |
| 13:48.51 | Legorol | i have no more points to spend |
| 13:49.01 | Legorol | i do however have the two spells corresponding to those two missing points |
| 13:51.05 | Lopeppeppy | So it's just not registering two of your points? Interesting... still worth a ticket, but at least you have the talents in question. |
| 13:54.34 | Lopeppeppy | There is no macro command "null", is there? |
| 13:56.56 | Adys | ? |
| 13:58.01 | Lopeppeppy | Simple question, I can't do tons of research while I'm at work, I'm trying to quick-cruise the forums. |
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| 13:59.53 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 13:59.59 | Lopeppeppy | Morning. |
| 14:00.44 | Lopeppeppy | Anyway, this is the thread if anyone has a chance to comment. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16418682231&sid=1 |
| 14:00.47 | JackBurton76761 | morning |
| 14:01.01 | Adys | http://devcub.com/~adys/2044.png |
| 14:01.03 | Adys | the joy :) |
| 14:01.52 | Lopeppeppy | How joy? |
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| 14:03.26 | mikma | adys: AHHA! busted! |
| 14:03.38 | Adys | ? |
| 14:04.02 | mikma | adys: #arkku.net -> free bouncers, emails, homepage space etc from year ... |
| 14:04.09 | mikma | there, i translated it for you |
| 14:04.22 | Adys | ...? |
| 14:04.30 | mikma | the screenshot ^^ |
| 14:04.39 | Adys | .. so? |
| 14:04.51 | mikma | lots of finnish channels there, that's why you are busted ;) |
| 14:05.06 | Adys | busted on what? :p |
| 14:05.19 | mikma | #matsi -> EAC gameserver starting 10e/month order now and save! |
| 14:05.21 | mikma | hehe |
| 14:05.27 | Adys | I dont get it |
| 14:05.32 | mikma | good. |
| 14:05.51 | Adys | uh do explain |
| 14:05.52 | Adys | :/ |
| 14:06.23 | mikma | nothing, just yanking your strings in your buttcrack |
| 14:06.29 | mikma | aaanyway, anyone familiar with bash scripting? |
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| 14:10.10 | Kissy | is patiently waiting for May 19. |
| 14:11.19 | Esine | mikma, sure |
| 14:11.37 | Esine | mikma, just ask ;) |
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| 14:12.33 | laeg | omg |
| 14:12.39 | mikma | well moment, haste managed to help me already and i'm now testing does this work or not |
| 14:12.43 | laeg | i think they took rogues preparation |
| 14:12.55 | laeg | oh wait they didn't |
| 14:12.57 | haste | is helpful. |
| 14:12.58 | Esine | laeg, what? Please explain. |
| 14:12.59 | laeg | i just have no talent points lol |
| 14:13.05 | laeg | sorry :) |
| 14:13.05 | Esine | oh.. |
| 14:13.10 | Esine | laeg, are you a sub rogue? |
| 14:13.14 | laeg | yup |
| 14:13.19 | laeg | it dissapeared off my macro |
| 14:13.26 | laeg | well the button when i press alt mod |
| 14:13.38 | Esine | any nerfs on 3.1? I read over the changelog and there was something I cursed at :( |
| 14:13.46 | Esine | as an amubsh sub rogue |
| 14:13.57 | Esine | (but I forgot what it was) |
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| 14:19.33 | p3lim | woot |
| 14:19.40 | p3lim | rotate minimap now works with any minimap shape |
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| 14:27.24 | Lopeppeppy | Neat. |
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| 14:33.51 | mikma | pastamancer: fix grid! |
| 14:34.05 | Esine | wow is getting more and more forgiving over time :( |
| 14:34.16 | Esine | it's like they wanted to make it a paradise where nothing is wrong |
| 14:34.19 | Esine | except that it's dead boring |
| 14:41.50 | zenzelezz | I'm sure this has been posted already, but anyway... "we didn't start the flame war": http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1907543 (possible NSFW) |
| 14:43.16 | krka | Esine: challenge yourself! raid with fewer people, play without addons, play with weird talent trees for fun |
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| 14:45.00 | Esine | I fail to see the fun in minigames such as instances and the kind :( |
| 14:46.43 | Dewin | hmm... curse client does not play nice when my machine comes out of hibernation. |
| 14:47.25 | Lopeppeppy | "Everyone else is having fun or else pretending to..." |
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| 14:58.03 | amro | is there a way to make player and NPC names smaller? |
| 14:59.13 | zenzelezz | that lacks info |
| 14:59.16 | zenzelezz | smaller where? |
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| 15:05.04 | AckisWork | zenzelezz: IN THE PANTS |
| 15:05.39 | Lopeppeppy | Oh noes! |
| 15:06.35 | zenzelezz | AckisWork: I don't have any player names or NPC names in my pants :-( |
| 15:06.44 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. Well then. Carry on. |
| 15:08.29 | Dotted | how to make quartz buff timers useful again? |
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| 15:17.44 | Wobin | hm |
| 15:17.53 | Wobin | is lua.org down for anyone else? |
| 15:18.14 | Adys | yes |
| 15:18.22 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 15:18.26 | Wobin | alas =( |
| 15:19.20 | mikma | hehe, alas in finnish means down |
| 15:19.21 | zenzelezz | must be a moon cycle thing |
| 15:20.08 | AckisWork | http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/funny-dog-pictures-dry-clean.jpg |
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| 15:20.58 | Floo | local number, name = string.match("item: 154 [item name]","item: (%d+)*[(%w)]"); |
| 15:21.07 | Floo | how to make pattern please? |
| 15:22.03 | AckisWork | 123123123 <- I just made a pattern... :P what pattern are you trying to get? you want the item name from it? |
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| 15:24.26 | Floo | yes |
| 15:24.33 | Floo | item number and item name |
| 15:24.51 | Floo | I think that it return what is in brackets ... not? |
| 15:25.04 | Shirik | AckisWork |
| 15:25.05 | Shirik | bad |
| 15:25.27 | AckisWork | Shirik: I'm actually trying to help, I added sarcasm with helpfullness |
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| 15:25.29 | mikma | local item, amount = arg1:match('item:(%d+).-\124rx?([0-9]*)') |
| 15:25.44 | mikma | floo: that's what i was given by the BOFH of the channel |
| 15:25.56 | Floo | BOFH? |
| 15:26.01 | mikma | ~bofh |
| 15:26.02 | purl | [bofh] Bastard Operator From Hell - see http://www.theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh/ |
| 15:26.56 | AckisWork | local _,_,ID = string.find(ItemID, "item:(%d+)") is what I use to get the itemID from it |
| 15:27.21 | Floo | but i need two returns |
| 15:30.19 | mikma | ah |
| 15:30.24 | Floo | something like this local name, roll, min, max = string.match(arg1, "(%a+) rolls (%d+) %((%d+)-(%d+)%)") |
| 15:30.39 | mikma | the "Blizzard Authenticator Token" has been named to "Battle.net Authenticator Token" at the login :D |
| 15:30.52 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, how sweet! |
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| 15:35.49 | pastamancer | mikma: what's broken? |
| 15:38.30 | mikma | pastamancer: threat-stuff afaik :I |
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| 15:39.47 | pastamancer | oh, I think that's been fixed in trunk |
| 15:42.31 | mikma | pastamancer: well... |
| 15:43.29 | pastamancer | I'm going to test the vehicle unit swapping tonight and make a release tomorrow |
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| 15:44.16 | mikma | pastamancer: Grid, last update 28 Mar 2009, r1174 = |
| 15:44.49 | pastamancer | yeah, r1174 claims to handle a nil result from UnitThreatSituation() |
| 15:44.55 | Floo | > local name = string.match("[item name]","[(%a+)]"); print(name) |
| 15:45.03 | Floo | why it return just "i"? |
| 15:45.19 | mikma | pastamancer: is that the fixed version? :D |
| 15:45.41 | pastamancer | should be |
| 15:47.56 | DWSR | Anyone know of a decent app for Facebook so that I never had to use the site again? |
| 15:48.15 | mikma | dwsr: firewall? |
| 15:48.31 | Lopeppeppy | What do you want the app to do, DWSR? |
| 15:48.46 | DWSR | mikma: :D I want to interact with Facebook, just not have to deal with their shitty (IMO) interface. |
| 15:48.59 | mikma | dwsr: block the whole site :D |
| 15:49.23 | Lopeppeppy | DWSR, there's nothing like that. You can add something so you can update your status from various other places, but the whole thing? Nope. |
| 15:50.19 | nicoli_s | you could try using one of their mobile(iphone/blackberry) apps and see if its any better |
| 15:50.27 | DWSR | nicoli_s: Don't have either of those. |
| 15:50.35 | DWSR | and the iphone website is pretty fail. |
| 15:56.11 | mikma | pastamancer: i'll get back to you with the results later :) |
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| 16:00.23 | AbsolutRayne | Are there any 3.1 DPS Meters? |
| 16:00.29 | DWSR | Recount? |
| 16:00.40 | DWSR | IT's been updated for 3.1 (or shouldn't have broken). |
| 16:00.42 | durcyn | combat log didn't change in 3.1, existing stuff should work fine |
| 16:00.47 | AbsolutRayne | Its broken |
| 16:00.51 | DWSR | AbsolutRayne: No, it's fine. |
| 16:00.55 | DWSR | Just logged in, works. |
| 16:01.04 | Lopeppeppy | AbsolutRayne! |
| 16:01.09 | DWSR | AbsolutRayne: What problems are you having? |
| 16:01.14 | AbsolutRayne | Mines busted. -shrug- something must be interfering with it |
| 16:01.20 | Lopeppeppy | My feedback on the new Lite is that it should not give me your account name when I log in with it, dear. :) |
| 16:01.23 | AbsolutRayne | I cant change what im looking at, or Report it |
| 16:01.32 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: I dont have it saved |
| 16:01.33 | DWSR | AbsolutRayne: Not having that problem. |
| 16:01.37 | AbsolutRayne | If its showing up somethings wrong |
| 16:01.59 | AbsolutRayne | Or I tagged the wrong version again in my upload like a retart |
| 16:02.01 | Lopeppeppy | It was sooooo there when I logged in after installing your new Lite, so something is wrong. |
| 16:02.21 | AbsolutRayne | Who else hates how little the node markers are on the minimap? |
| 16:02.35 | DWSR | AbsolutRayne: Get Chinchilla, you can make them bigger. :D |
| 16:02.46 | AbsolutRayne | Is there a new Chinchilla yet? |
| 16:03.37 | AbsolutRayne | Oh neat there is |
| 16:03.41 | AbsolutRayne | nabs it |
| 16:03.54 | Lopeppeppy | wants it. |
| 16:04.01 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Im getting alot of error reports for my 3.1version. Im going to push a new one through today probably |
| 16:04.11 | AbsolutRayne | Profiles missing, ect |
| 16:04.35 | AbsolutRayne | But the name thing is new |
| 16:04.40 | AbsolutRayne | I dont do that anymore |
| 16:05.00 | AbsolutRayne | I dont think anyone could get my password anyway -shrug- |
| 16:05.26 | Lopeppeppy | Still, while I adores you, it was totally TMI. :) |
| 16:05.36 | Esine | ummm any sub rogue here? How is blizzard expecting us to drag our abilities to the new Shadow Dance action bar? It's only visible for 10 seconds and you can do that only every 2 minutes.. |
| 16:05.41 | Esine | sounds like they didn't think this through huh |
| 16:05.46 | AbsolutRayne | Jesus I love this song |
| 16:05.59 | AbsolutRayne | Esine: Are you using a bar mod? |
| 16:06.09 | Esine | AbsolutRayne, no, I am not. |
| 16:06.16 | AbsolutRayne | Hmm |
| 16:06.24 | Esine | I actually have addons disabled atm because of the toc change.. |
| 16:06.51 | Lopeppeppy | "load out of date addons" |
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| 16:07.41 | VonhintenHOME` | why would the shadow dance action bar be any different from your stealth bar |
| 16:07.59 | AbsolutRayne | VonhintenHOME`: Two totally different things |
| 16:08.15 | Esine | VonhintenHOME`, well it is. and they should be |
| 16:08.33 | Esine | I only need three abilities on my subtlety bar in the shadow dance bar |
| 16:08.34 | Lopeppeppy | I belive Shadow Dance is not considered a "stance" in terms of bars, am I wrong in that memory? |
| 16:08.55 | AbsolutRayne | Esine: The only thing I could tell you to do, is page through your Action Bars and throw something on all of them. When you find the Shadow Dance one,youll be set |
| 16:09.10 | Esine | AbsolutRayne, tried that.. :/ |
| 16:09.16 | Esine | it doesn't show up |
| 16:09.30 | AbsolutRayne | Really? Thats Bass Ackwards |
| 16:09.34 | DWSR | rofl |
| 16:09.38 | DWSR | That's why I use a barmod. |
| 16:09.45 | Esine | it is |
| 16:09.59 | AbsolutRayne | Just nab Dominos |
| 16:10.00 | DWSR | btw, did barmods get broken in this patch or did Blizzard update the code in a friendly manner? |
| 16:10.10 | DWSR | (think dualspec). |
| 16:10.12 | durcyn | bar mods are fine |
| 16:10.29 | DWSR | :D |
| 16:10.30 | DWSR | Awesome. |
| 16:10.37 | DWSR | maybe I'll has no breakage this patch. |
| 16:10.46 | AbsolutRayne | Farming is so boring |
| 16:10.46 | durcyn | all of the shuffling is done on the backend, so it just stuffs the new spells into the existing buttons |
| 16:11.06 | DWSR | Awesome. |
| 16:11.51 | AbsolutRayne | I spent like 300G last night in Repairs >_< |
| 16:12.04 | AbsolutRayne | Dont expect tonight to be better |
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| 16:12.33 | Lopeppeppy | You get that **farming**, AbsolutRayne? |
| 16:12.50 | AbsolutRayne | Repair farming |
| 16:12.52 | AbsolutRayne | \o/ |
| 16:13.17 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, learning Uldar. Gotcha. |
| 16:13.22 | AbsolutRayne | In all honesty, ive been farming for my Chopper |
| 16:13.27 | AbsolutRayne | making about 1K Gold a day |
| 16:13.53 | Lopeppeppy | Not too bad. |
| 16:14.00 | Lopeppeppy | I need to farm for my epic happy mount of love and destruction. |
| 16:14.16 | AbsolutRayne | Im starting to hate this |
| 16:14.19 | AbsolutRayne | Whenever I tab out of WoW |
| 16:14.21 | alestane | ...you mean artisan flying? |
| 16:14.21 | AbsolutRayne | It crashes. |
| 16:14.27 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, that sucks AbsolutRayne. |
| 16:14.30 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, I think so. |
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| 16:24.08 | kneeki | Wow, I'm having a hell of a time figuring out this 3.1 destruction rotation |
| 16:24.47 | Wobin | Anyone here use Twitter a lot? |
| 16:25.03 | DWSR | Not *a lot*, but yeah. |
| 16:25.06 | mikma | titty twitter |
| 16:25.15 | DWSR | kneeki: You tried Aff in this patch? |
| 16:25.19 | DWSR | I heard it's failbot. |
| 16:25.34 | Wobin | If I have a public account, and gain followers, then set my account to private, do all my followers then have to be approved, or are they autoadded? |
| 16:25.37 | kneeki | DWSR: I have not yet, but yeah... No Immo + UA and SL + Corr = huge damage losses |
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| 16:26.01 | kneeki | DWSR: I just cannot seem to nail this down. I'm stuck at like 2.7k dps or so rougly... I was nearly 4k dps as Aff last patch |
| 16:26.07 | DWSR | kneeki: Did they roll SL's damage into Corruption? |
| 16:26.12 | kneeki | I must figure this out |
| 16:26.15 | DWSR | kneeki: That's fucked. |
| 16:26.27 | kneeki | DWSR: They said they did, but the damage loss is like 7% or so |
| 16:26.37 | DWSR | once again, bliz fail for DPS calcs. |
| 16:26.48 | kneeki | I'll have to try it though |
| 16:27.01 | kneeki | currently, it seems Aff is better for me than Destro |
| 16:27.13 | DWSR | I understand that they wanted to nerf the damage output of aff a bit, but loss of a dot + 7% off of another is a bit much. |
| 16:27.16 | DWSR | It's like 500DPS. |
| 16:27.30 | kneeki | The loss of two dots |
| 16:27.41 | kneeki | we never gained the damage back from SL + Corr |
| 16:27.55 | kneeki | and SL was around 7% of our total damage run for an entire raid |
| 16:27.59 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 16:28.02 | DWSR | So...fail blizzard. |
| 16:28.09 | kneeki | mhmm |
| 16:28.21 | DWSR | Seeing as how locks weren't topping charts to start with. |
| 16:28.32 | DWSR | (except in my guild, where I'm outgearing....everyone). |
| 16:28.36 | kneeki | They could, but it required great gear and excellent skill |
| 16:29.00 | DWSR | Whereas DKs would just roll their face on their keyboard. |
| 16:29.06 | kneeki | Exactly |
| 16:29.21 | DWSR | Just put yourself on tank follow, bind everything to and actionbar button, and fill all of the slots with the same ability. |
| 16:29.23 | DWSR | WOO DK. |
| 16:29.31 | DWSR | s/and/an |
| 16:29.34 | DWSR | s/and/an/ |
| 16:29.38 | DWSR | rofl |
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| 16:32.02 | DWSR | reads EJ |
| 16:32.10 | DWSR | Need to go cookie-cutter and relearn some theorycraft. |
| 16:32.27 | DWSR | fail Blizzard, why couldn't you just implement a DoTimer into the interface? |
| 16:32.30 | DWSR | That would be easy. |
| 16:33.14 | durcyn | DWSR: they're apparently happy with cooldown models on target debuffs |
| 16:34.09 | *** join/#wowuidev jin_sane (n=preston@wocky.gc.maricopa.edu) |
| 16:34.20 | kneeki | wows |
| 16:34.29 | kneeki | 17k conflag self buffed and no debuffs on target |
| 16:34.35 | kneeki | topping out at only 3k dps =\ |
| 16:34.39 | kneeki | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.43 | kneeki | ~fail kneeki |
| 16:34.44 | purl | kneeki: FAIL! |
| 16:34.50 | kneeki | I know! SHUT UP! |
| 16:35.07 | jin_sane | is it possible to have an addon scan for files in it's directory, say, for a mp3player addon? |
| 16:35.17 | durcyn | jin_sane: no. |
| 16:35.20 | kneeki | jin_sane: Nope |
| 16:35.36 | *** join/#wowuidev augustl (n=augustl@s0034-0015.dsl.start.no) |
| 16:35.41 | jin_sane | that's unfortunate |
| 16:35.53 | jin_sane | durcyn, kneeki: ty |
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| 16:36.48 | augustl | hum, why is the download link on wowinterface.com a java applet? |
| 16:36.51 | augustl | installs java for chrome |
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| 16:37.24 | augustl | humm, install failed |
| 16:37.51 | augustl | strangeness. java required to download files. *whine whine*. I guess you've been through some whining already tho, so I'll stfu |
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| 16:38.44 | Kissy | augustl: If you have a WoWInterface account and log in it will give you a normal link. |
| 16:39.13 | augustl | grumbles something about usability |
| 16:39.16 | augustl | yeah, I'll just log in then |
| 16:39.28 | Etanol | I'm quite content with the DK change :) |
| 16:39.30 | Etanol | still on top |
| 16:40.03 | jnwhiteh | its an unfortunate necessity at the moment |
| 16:40.03 | jnwhiteh | it stops wowmatrix from being able to scrape and download the files |
| 16:40.26 | augustl | hm, didn't wowmatrix unrougify itself by giving credit to mod authors? |
| 16:40.34 | augustl | oh, it still uses your servers instead of its own, perhaps? |
| 16:40.40 | Kissy | Yes, that one. |
| 16:40.43 | *** join/#wowuidev Lunessa (n=Lunessa@129.7.93.122) |
| 16:40.48 | Lunessa | STATION! |
| 16:40.52 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, your second statement, augustl. |
| 16:40.55 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa dear. |
| 16:40.56 | Kissy | Leeches bandwidth in excess of 30%. That is thousands of dollars. |
| 16:41.44 | augustl | how silly |
| 16:41.52 | Kissy | All these people on the forums complaining I really should post up if they would mind if I came over and used $10,000 in electricity at their house. |
| 16:41.54 | augustl | (of them) |
| 16:42.01 | kneeki | ... |
| 16:42.06 | kneeki | I think I may have found why my dps is so low |
| 16:42.21 | Kissy | Broken armor. |
| 16:42.24 | kneeki | if you have immolate already on the target, and cast the spell again, before immolate expires, the debuff is not refreshed |
| 16:42.38 | durcyn | kneeki: only if your spellpower went down between casts |
| 16:42.38 | kneeki | so i end up wasting spell casts to restore it |
| 16:42.50 | durcyn | kneeki: trinkets, demonic pact, etc |
| 16:42.58 | kneeki | durcyn: I have 4pc set bonus 7.5, every time I life tap I gain 300 or so spell power |
| 16:43.00 | kneeki | gg |
| 16:43.13 | durcyn | no, you gain 300 spirit, that's 90 spellpower =P |
| 16:43.23 | kneeki | ah whatever ;) |
| 16:44.09 | augustl | I'm amazed that the addon sites are still up. Guess a few lessons has been learned from past patch day experiences |
| 16:44.30 | Lunessa | You might say that. |
| 16:44.30 | Wobin | augustl: the extra 30% available bandwidth helped a bit |
| 16:44.38 | augustl | Wobin: =P |
| 16:44.40 | AckisWork | ok, someone kill me please |
| 16:44.45 | AckisWork | points to Lopeppeppy |
| 16:44.47 | durcyn | ~kill AckisWork |
| 16:44.47 | purl | ACTION shoots a excited electron gun at AckisWork |
| 16:44.48 | Wobin | kills AckisWork |
| 16:44.53 | augustl | AckisWork: can I have your organs? |
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| 16:45.15 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 16:45.18 | AckisWork | no |
| 16:45.32 | Lopeppeppy | They're out of tune anyway. |
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| 16:45.49 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o widgertick] by ChanServ |
| 16:46.23 | Jamash | Anyone here familiar with how Macaroon works internally? |
| 16:46.49 | widgertick | ~dict Macaroon |
| 16:46.52 | Lunessa | Maul doesn't hang in the channel |
| 16:47.03 | Jamash | ~lart widgertick |
| 16:47.03 | purl | pries widgertick's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to widgertick |
| 16:47.14 | Jamash | oh well |
| 16:47.23 | B-4 | I'm not Data |
| 16:47.25 | B-4 | Really |
| 16:50.30 | mikma | hmm! you can select areas in worldmap now |
| 16:52.11 | augustl | browses around for a unit frame addon |
| 16:52.15 | jnwhiteh | can someone please confirm that the release version of TomTOm is working? |
| 16:52.20 | augustl | I'm also up for a battle on emacs vs vim, if anyone's up for it |
| 16:52.43 | NeoTron | jnwhiteh: need to test that - version I had last night which I think was the latest beta, did not |
| 16:52.44 | Lopeppeppy | PINE is not ELM |
| 16:52.49 | NeoTron | jnwhiteh: but can't try untl tonight |
| 16:52.49 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: I tried using it last night, but got no arrows. However, there was a new version on WoWI this morning I didn't get time to check. |
| 16:52.50 | augustl | jnwhiteh: just downloaded it, says out of date |
| 16:53.02 | Jamash | emacs < vim < a sharp stick in the eye |
| 16:53.07 | jnwhiteh | NeoTron: the latest beta definitely should have worked |
| 16:53.13 | jnwhiteh | augustl: i might not have updated the tocm that's easy |
| 16:53.17 | augustl | Jamash: great! Now, unit frames |
| 16:53.26 | NeoTron | jnwhiteh: I couldn't click on the map to make a waypoint |
| 16:53.28 | Jamash | pitbull is nice |
| 16:53.34 | NeoTron | if I had a waypoint from something else, it worked |
| 16:53.43 | NeoTron | but didn't look too muich at it since I was rather busy |
| 16:54.16 | jnwhiteh | NeoTron: okay, ti can fix that |
| 16:54.24 | augustl | jnwhiteh: I have never used the addon before, installed it for the first time now (but before you asked for it, 't was a coincidence). Ctrl + right click zooms out. |
| 16:54.26 | jnwhiteh | i dont ever do that |
| 16:54.31 | jnwhiteh | that'll be with the frame click changes |
| 16:54.36 | jnwhiteh | augustl: aye, don't use that =) |
| 16:54.41 | jnwhiteh | just use /way 50 50 |
| 16:54.44 | Etanol | SetActiveTalentGroup(GetActiveTalentGroup() == 1 and 2 or 1) |
| 16:54.45 | Etanol | yay |
| 16:54.46 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: Also note that I use LightHeaded and TourGuide and neither of them seemed to show anything either. I didn't have time this morning to investigate since I had to go stand in line to pay my Uncle Sam. |
| 16:54.47 | augustl | aw, but I wanna click! |
| 16:54.48 | jnwhiteh | and if that makes a waypoint and an arrow then I'm happy |
| 16:54.56 | jnwhiteh | Lunessa: hehe |
| 16:54.57 | Lopeppeppy | lurvs Lunessa. |
| 16:55.03 | augustl | jnwhiteh: /way 50 50 works indeed |
| 16:55.11 | NeoTron | jnwhiteh: I definitely did have working waypoints |
| 16:55.20 | jnwhiteh | k k |
| 16:55.24 | jnwhiteh | i'll fix the map stuff when i get home |
| 16:55.28 | augustl | yay |
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| 16:55.59 | Lunessa | lurvs Lopeppeppy in return. Long, slow, candy-covered lurve with rainbows and kittens. |
| 16:56.08 | augustl | Jamash: I want the os x of unit frames |
| 16:56.17 | augustl | as in, no configuration, the mod author should decide everything for me |
| 16:56.20 | Lopeppeppy | No kittens. I is allergic'd. |
| 16:56.33 | Lopeppeppy | augustl, Sage. |
| 16:56.35 | alestane | ...you has cat, yes? |
| 16:56.40 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, I do. |
| 16:56.56 | alestane | You are allergic to this cat? |
| 16:57.07 | augustl | Lopeppeppy: oh yay, looks sensible, ima try, tnx |
| 16:57.44 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, I am. |
| 16:57.51 | Lunessa | alestane: Naturally she is. But she's all hopped up on Sudafed. |
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| 16:58.00 | Lopeppeppy | She is not, however, invited to lurving. The kittens were, and I de-invited them. |
| 16:58.11 | augustl | lol, nice bug. Logged in as mounted, I'm standing upright on the back of my mount. |
| 16:58.14 | augustl | looks pretty silly on a raptor |
| 16:58.24 | augustl | bounce-bounce-bounce-bounce |
| 16:58.25 | alestane | But you has cat nonetheless. I see. |
| 16:58.41 | augustl | aw, sage errors on 3.1 =( |
| 16:59.04 | Lopeppeppy | It's perverted if you use the entire chicken, alestane. |
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| 16:59.18 | Lunessa | doesn't want to update Yata for dual spec, but may have to. |
| 16:59.31 | jnwhiteh | logs for an hour brb |
| 16:59.44 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: I'm familiar with that comment, but I confess I don't grasp how it pertains to our exchange. |
| 17:00.03 | krka | Etanol: SetActiveTalentGroup(2 - GetActiveTalentGroup()) |
| 17:00.11 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, you thinks it over, ask Kat if you're still confused. |
| 17:00.12 | krka | err |
| 17:00.13 | krka | 3 - |
| 17:00.20 | krka | maths ftl |
| 17:01.11 | alestane | Are you referring to your comment about the cat not being invited, or to the fact that you have a cat despite your allergies? |
| 17:01.36 | Lopeppeppy | Both. |
| 17:01.41 | Lopeppeppy | teases alestane, it's very not fair. |
| 17:02.06 | alestane | Hey, you actually said "both" instead of "yes". I should be grateful. |
| 17:02.12 | Lopeppeppy | Aww. |
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| 17:02.35 | alestane | Anyone else having problems connecting to WoW? |
| 17:02.47 | alestane | I can't get past "Authenticating". |
| 17:02.57 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds like the auth servers are broked again. |
| 17:02.58 | geargrind | alestane: yes |
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| 17:03.24 | alestane | I'll stop trying for the moment then. |
| 17:05.03 | ScytheBlade1 | in my writing class, discussing argument papers |
| 17:05.15 | Lopeppeppy | no you're not. |
| 17:05.18 | ScytheBlade1 | One kid is talking, his paper is that serial killers have generated franchise |
| 17:05.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Doow (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/doow) |
| 17:05.22 | ScytheBlade1 | No, I'm busy laughing |
| 17:05.28 | ScytheBlade1 | He said to the class |
| 17:06.03 | ScytheBlade1 | "If some kid has a Jefferey Dahmer poster that says 'finger licking good' chances are he's just a weird kid, but if he has a poster idolizing hitler that says 'six million more' chances are something else is wrong" |
| 17:06.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Aqua (n=Vette@74-137-180-6.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 17:06.08 | ScytheBlade1 | ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer ) |
| 17:06.12 | augustl | hmpf, writing your own addons is faster than downloading them, slow patch day is slow |
| 17:06.39 | Lopeppeppy | augustl, patience.... a million billion people are hammering the addon sites this week. |
| 17:07.11 | augustl | pfft! |
| 17:07.20 | ScytheBlade1 | oh wow, this kid HAD said jeffery Dahmer poster |
| 17:07.22 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahahahahaha |
| 17:07.22 | Aqua | this is the week i stop playing wow |
| 17:07.24 | erikd | do any of you happen to have a (preferrably full) combat log from ulduar? |
| 17:07.34 | augustl | curse is in Link Expired mode |
| 17:07.55 | netcurse | We are bandwithd capped right now |
| 17:08.04 | netcurse | 3.5 gb/s uplink |
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| 17:08.13 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, hammered to death. *hugs for netcurse* |
| 17:08.22 | augustl | ouchie |
| 17:08.29 | augustl | s3 mirrors plox! |
| 17:08.36 | erikd | ^ |
| 17:08.37 | augustl | (here, a bag of cash) |
| 17:08.44 | netcurse | We'll implement bittorent |
| 17:08.48 | netcurse | for patches |
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| 17:09.17 | alestane | How well will that acutally work for fairly small files? |
| 17:09.30 | DWSR | netcurse: Aren't you guys glad that you at least stopped WM? |
| 17:09.37 | augustl | as long as some souls are seeding, it works well for any file size I'd imagine |
| 17:09.55 | NeoTron | netcurse: a better thing for addons would be to implement detals |
| 17:09.58 | NeoTron | deltas |
| 17:10.14 | DWSR | augustl: No, there is a lot of overhead in torrents. A 36k download is not worth it. |
| 17:10.19 | NeoTron | i.e uploading only the diffs between what's installed and what you're downloading.. from a bandwidth pov that is |
| 17:10.31 | NeoTron | torrents would suck for this purpose :) |
| 17:10.35 | DWSR | Would be cool if you code the curse client to do that. |
| 17:10.38 | netcurse | neotron, div is also a good idea. |
| 17:10.40 | augustl | I hope you guys have 24/Miami Vice-like GUIs to visualize the server load atm |
| 17:10.43 | Kissy | If Curse is capped it is still loading fast. |
| 17:10.51 | augustl | miami vice? wtf, I meant CSI. |
| 17:10.59 | NeoTron | diff is more cpu intensive, but a _lot_ less bandwidth |
| 17:11.16 | NeoTron | so throwing more hardware with cheaper connection - depends whcih is best moneys worth :) |
| 17:11.19 | End | Kissy: think package files get downloaded from a different place than the website itself |
| 17:11.20 | augustl | NeoTron: force everyone to have git installed, then have lunch! |
| 17:11.23 | DWSR | NeoTron: Would be a neat idea for the curse client. Can't you generate diffs from SVN automagicly anyway? |
| 17:11.24 | End | I think* |
| 17:11.32 | Kissy | Oh, that then. |
| 17:12.12 | NeoTron | DWSR: well distributing via source control is an option |
| 17:12.31 | NeoTron | so the install installs the anonymous source tree and the update does svn/git/whatever update to a specific tag/version |
| 17:12.36 | Kissy | I believe every one would have to used the Curse Client then. A regular download should not have SVN information in it. |
| 17:12.44 | NeoTron | but that only works for things in wowace/curseforge |
| 17:12.45 | Kissy | *use |
| 17:12.53 | netcurse | we have 630,000 concurent user on the cc as i speak right now |
| 17:13.04 | netcurse | we need to rethink some architecture for sure |
| 17:13.15 | augustl | is curse restricting all file downloads atm, to keep the site up? Haven't been able to dl for a while now. |
| 17:13.20 | NeoTron | Kissy: obviously this would be client only since downloading diffs would need intelligence too |
| 17:13.28 | netcurse | augustl, no |
| 17:13.43 | netcurse | We have 2 racks of servers, one for web one for client/downloads |
| 17:13.44 | Kissy | NeoTron: Possibly intelligent users as well, but the forums are proving that wrong. :D |
| 17:13.55 | netcurse | the rack with downloads is caped in bandwitdh, the web one is nearly caped |
| 17:14.01 | netcurse | that s why you can still access the site |
| 17:14.17 | netcurse | we already moved questhelper to the web rack |
| 17:14.22 | netcurse | but we can t move more addons |
| 17:14.29 | netcurse | or the site will be down |
| 17:15.20 | netcurse | this patch is as big as 3.0 |
| 17:15.25 | NeoTron | I did my part to help -0 didn't release things with just a toc update |
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| 17:15.38 | Moleculor | augustl: I was able to download 40 minutes ago from Curse. |
| 17:15.54 | augustl | I'm getting Link Expired on everything |
| 17:16.04 | augustl | downloading manually from the website tho', not using the updater |
| 17:16.14 | Lopeppeppy | reminds people to eat more cookies, they generate exceptional levels of Patience. |
| 17:16.33 | Moleculor | PATIENCE IS OVERRATED. Or a hot blonde girl. One of the two. |
| 17:16.50 | erikd | shirik: are you around? i have a java question |
| 17:17.02 | Shirik | yeah what's up |
| 17:17.06 | Moleculor | I used the updater. |
| 17:17.16 | augustl | I approve of the arrow stack and ammo quiver changes |
| 17:17.39 | Wobin | Hot blonde girls are overrated? |
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| 17:18.02 | Moleculor | Only if you're a gay man. |
| 17:18.17 | erikd | i have an idea for a wow related desktop application that needs to be fast at processing data and i'm debating what i should write it in. I think it should probably be cross platform so mac users can use it and i can't decide between c++ with qt or java |
| 17:18.34 | Moleculor | Assembly. |
| 17:18.40 | Shirik | Java's data processing is not bad actually |
| 17:18.41 | Lopeppeppy | erikd, better say what it's going to do. Remember that real-time interaction with WoW is verboten. |
| 17:18.57 | Shirik | They have especially good algorithms for hash tables, etc. |
| 17:18.57 | erikd | it's a different type of combat log parser :) |
| 17:19.01 | Shirik | very configurable |
| 17:19.08 | krka | java is fast enough for data processing |
| 17:19.10 | erikd | shirik: i was going to use sqlite as a file format |
| 17:19.13 | krka | about equal to c++ |
| 17:19.27 | erikd | I'll probably go with java then |
| 17:19.28 | Shirik | and java's hotspot JIT will eliminate any major deviance in performance you would have gotten |
| 17:19.35 | End | java also does a lot of work for you |
| 17:19.42 | augustl | erikd: oh noes, cross platform java apps =( |
| 17:19.47 | krka | also, java doesnt suck, like c++ does |
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| 17:19.57 | Moleculor | Oh thank gods... X-Perl got updated. Hopefully it actually has bugs fixed. |
| 17:19.57 | augustl | gief core libs in whatever language, and a native cocoa app for the os x version |
| 17:20.16 | Shirik | krka: C++ is good :( |
| 17:20.17 | erikd | i had a rudimentary version of this written in c# but I figured it'd be better to dump that for something that'll work on osx |
| 17:20.17 | End | hehe |
| 17:20.19 | Shirik | C++ got me my internship :( |
| 17:20.24 | augustl | erikd: <3 |
| 17:20.35 | End | speaking of x-perl, our current motd: Raid tonight. FYI, PUG new VOA Boss= Wipe. If x-perl fails you, use /script LeaveParty() to leave your group |
| 17:21.11 | erikd | august1: do you do osx dev? i just can't get used to xcode |
| 17:21.11 | Moleculor | Yeh. |
| 17:21.29 | Moleculor | I had to use LeaveParty() to leave last night. |
| 17:22.06 | Lopeppeppy | I remember having to do that back in Molten Core!! |
| 17:22.09 | augustl | erikd: not much, I'm a web guy. Only touched it slightly. |
| 17:22.42 | augustl | erikd: you should get this book: http://www.amazon.com/Cocoa-Programming-Mac-OS-Third/dp/B00139XSRO |
| 17:22.43 | erikd | ah, i picked up a macbook to do some iphone stuff but objc and xcode are just too foreign atm |
| 17:22.50 | augustl | erikd: it's a bunch of Objective C in there, though |
| 17:23.01 | augustl | but the book rocks |
| 17:24.45 | Lunessa | I was planning to make a run at the new VoA boss tonight. |
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| 17:25.11 | erikd | i'm not familiar enough with osx development to be able to write a native windows and osx client that works well |
| 17:25.24 | erikd | lunessa: he's a pain, don't pug him |
| 17:25.31 | mikma | oh assmonkey |
| 17:25.38 | mikma | the vein-nodes are damn small now |
| 17:26.12 | Lunessa | erikd: I don't have exactly a lot of choice. However, have a pool of semi-competent folks to recruit from. |
| 17:27.14 | erikd | i'd give you tips but i dunno if strats are frowned upon in here or not >< |
| 17:27.17 | augustl | erikd: kudos for thinking of us osx-ers though! =D |
| 17:27.23 | Lopeppeppy | lurvs Lunessa. |
| 17:27.29 | Lopeppeppy | I'll try to be on for amoral support, Lunessa. |
| 17:27.37 | Lunessa | wooo! amoral! |
| 17:27.52 | Lunessa | erikd: We talk all things wow and code, why would they be? |
| 17:28.18 | erikd | august1: i'm a big fan of osx now that i have my macbook, i'd love to get a mac pro for my next desktop and go with boot camp but it's a bit expensive =/ |
| 17:28.27 | erikd | lunessa: i dunno, some people don't like spoilers :) |
| 17:28.45 | Lopeppeppy | Then make whispers! |
| 17:28.51 | augustl | erikd: yeah the mac desktops are hardcore, prolly only makes sense if you do video or 3d or music or something other very processor intensive |
| 17:29.05 | Lunessa | One of my tanks posted some theory-crafting about it: http://groundingtotem.com/forums/thread/29 |
| 17:29.34 | augustl | ooh, tooltips are quest item aware now |
| 17:29.35 | augustl | neat |
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| 17:30.04 | erikd | the problem with me is i can't just get the base model and the versions with a bunch of ram are 3k+ |
| 17:30.54 | Lopeppeppy | Ooh, I remember him, Lunessa. |
| 17:31.28 | Lunessa | He's a good tank. |
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| 17:33.17 | mikma | lololololoooo |
| 17:33.32 | mikma | Immolation and Unstable Affliction don't stack anymore :D |
| 17:33.48 | kneeki | mikma: laugh it up... |
| 17:34.05 | mikma | i am |
| 17:34.09 | mikma | cause i'm leveling warlock |
| 17:34.15 | durcyn | that's not exactly new |
| 17:34.28 | durcyn | was on ptr a month ago |
| 17:35.18 | mikma | the mobs still die like they should tho |
| 17:35.58 | erikd | shirik: which gui toolkit would you recommend for java? i'm assuming swing is a bit dated? |
| 17:36.17 | Shirik | swing is good |
| 17:36.44 | augustl | and even uglier than QT =P |
| 17:36.56 | NeoTron | mikma: wait.. what? |
| 17:37.20 | Shirik | augustl: Only if the user decides not to use the system GUI |
| 17:37.22 | Shirik | which is stupid |
| 17:37.27 | Shirik | *cough* WWS *cough* |
| 17:37.36 | Shirik | and by user I mean user of swing, i.e., programmer |
| 17:37.44 | augustl | hmm |
| 17:37.46 | mikma | neotron: yes yes? |
| 17:38.04 | NeoTron | you saying if I put up immolate and then put up UA, immolate goes away? |
| 17:38.22 | mikma | no, immolate is "stronger" than UA so UA won't be cast |
| 17:38.31 | alestane | Or you get the "A more powerful spell is already active" warning. |
| 17:38.37 | mikma | well, it will be cast but it stops at 50% telling more powerfull spell is active |
| 17:38.59 | NeoTron | ok well that's one way to simplifying affliction rotation |
| 17:39.11 | NeoTron | can't make Immolate not worth using by itself so make it no usable with UA. |
| 17:39.40 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:39.58 | mikma | if you compare immolate and UA, they do pretty much the same damage |
| 17:40.09 | mikma | except UA takes less mana + is faster to cast |
| 17:40.28 | NeoTron | nod nod |
| 17:40.35 | mikma | but if you wanna draintank, then you'll have to go with immolate ^^ |
| 17:40.37 | NeoTron | they didn't want immolate to be in the aff lock rotation |
| 17:40.47 | NeoTron | but they couldn't nerf immolate enough w/o making it useless for other specs |
| 17:41.19 | mikma | right at lvl54 it goes like this: |
| 17:41.45 | mikma | Immolate, 286 mana 1.96 sec cast, 204 to 205 fire damage and 365 to 370 fire damage over 15sec |
| 17:42.09 | mikma | Unstable Affliction, 234 mana 1.47 sec, 665 to 670 damage over 15sec |
| 17:42.18 | mikma | also has the dispel-bonus ^^ |
| 17:43.40 | augustl | tiny minimap icons are tiny. (The ones on the minimap itself, nodes and stuff you track and what not) |
| 17:43.59 | mikma | yeah they are TOO TINY |
| 17:44.04 | Jamash | I thought they were smaller, but I wasn't sure |
| 17:44.05 | mikma | i'm missing vein nodes now |
| 17:44.37 | Jamash | get a minimap enlarger? |
| 17:45.32 | mikma | also, AAAAARGH |
| 17:45.38 | mikma | Simple Kilt is now BoE item |
| 17:45.38 | Lopeppeppy | I heard Chinchilla was updated and does that better. |
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| 17:45.42 | mikma | ffs :( |
| 17:45.42 | NeoTron | Jamash: guaranteed to make the ladies like me better due to my "larger instrument"? |
| 17:45.59 | Jamash | NeoTron: sure, why not |
| 17:46.32 | Jamash | Chinchilla is awesomeness |
| 17:46.57 | augustl | mikma: what's wrong with that? |
| 17:47.01 | augustl | simple kilt is simple |
| 17:47.09 | mikma | it was white item before |
| 17:47.18 | mikma | i have the +30sta +10agi kit on it |
| 17:47.21 | mikma | now it's BoE |
| 17:47.43 | augustl | ah right, they pimped tailoring items |
| 17:47.52 | mikma | it was lvl10 item that i could mail to my lowlevel alts |
| 17:47.58 | erikd | hmmm... maybe i could do what i'm thinking with an ajax web application instead |
| 17:48.08 | erikd | with pre-parsing |
| 17:48.10 | Lopeppeppy | mikma, you still can. |
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| 17:48.25 | mikma | lopeppeppy: yeah but not that one :) |
| 17:48.34 | mikma | it's bind to my char after patch |
| 17:48.56 | mikma | i need to buy new lowlevel pants that aren't BoP and kit them instead, waste of 100g :D /cry /emo /wrists |
| 17:49.31 | mikma | ahahahaa |
| 17:49.38 | mikma | blizzard baby bear has new cool icon! |
| 17:49.42 | Jamash | yep |
| 17:49.53 | Jamash | so does the cockroach |
| 17:50.06 | mikma | oh? neat |
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| 17:51.09 | Dagmar | mikma: Because everyone loves the taste of twink tears |
| 17:51.14 | Dagmar | Sooo delicious |
| 17:51.28 | mikma | my gear wasn't twinked :( |
| 17:51.32 | erikd | frosty has a new icon too |
| 17:51.33 | mikma | it was pro++ for leveling |
| 17:51.49 | mikma | well, the kit still works on lowlevel stuff :) |
| 17:51.57 | mikma | but the shoulder-enchant works now after lvl70 |
| 17:52.08 | mikma | hahaa! |
| 17:52.12 | mikma | egbert has also a cool icon! |
| 17:52.23 | Fisker- | anyone knows what tekkub's group loot thingy is called? |
| 17:53.29 | mikma | http://github.com/tekkub/teksloot/tree/master |
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| 17:54.41 | mikma | DK flying mont has new icon too |
| 17:56.12 | KarlKFI | mmm i think tekkub's passed me in addons written |
| 17:56.29 | KarlKFI | definitely in addons currently maintained |
| 17:57.08 | foxlit | I propose a Lines of Code metric instead. |
| 17:57.36 | KarlKFI | hmm, i think i'd prolly win that one |
| 17:57.41 | Dagmar | Let's not do that. |
| 17:57.42 | End | hehe |
| 17:58.03 | Lopeppeppy | 'tis a silly place |
| 17:58.12 | KarlKFI | how bout we just go with file size, that's easier |
| 17:58.41 | foxlit | Meh, everyone knows I ship the complete works of shakespeare in comments. |
| 17:59.11 | KarlKFI | comments dont count as lines of code? |
| 17:59.21 | foxlit | But they do count as file size. |
| 17:59.23 | KarlKFI | if not that cuts Portfolio in half |
| 17:59.25 | amro | tekkub would probably propose a different size comparison... |
| 18:00.29 | KarlKFI | most of tek's are under 15kb |
| 18:00.53 | KarlKFI | with maybe 12 exceptions |
| 18:01.12 | KarlKFI | only 3 over 100k |
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| 18:02.59 | KarlKFI | hmmm, doesn't show size on the my addons page |
| 18:03.14 | mikma | if you are looking for the most largest tek-addon, i'd go with tourguide! |
| 18:03.34 | KarlKFI | actually Engravings |
| 18:03.36 | foxlit | For bonus points, don't count data. |
| 18:04.09 | KarlKFI | not sure why engravings would need to be so big |
| 18:04.19 | |Jelly| | Any tips to the trash before Ignis? |
| 18:06.08 | KarlKFI | O.o why does engravings come with a full item database... |
| 18:07.39 | mikma | because it adds wowhead scores in tooltips |
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| 18:09.49 | KarlKFI | heh, ChatBar with 3 skins is still smaller than Portfolio with no images at all |
| 18:10.06 | KarlKFI | 55kb of compressed text ftw |
| 18:10.26 | Jamash | I wrote an addon that's 3.1k compressed |
| 18:10.42 | Jamash | I'm surprised people still use it, I haven't updated it since the wrath beta |
| 18:11.02 | Lunessa | Cairenn|afk, Dolby, or Seerah - http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php = 500 Internal Server Error |
| 18:11.10 | Cairenn|afk | yeah, we know :( |
| 18:11.13 | Lunessa | :( |
| 18:11.18 | Cairenn|afk | hit refresh a few times |
| 18:11.50 | Cairenn|afk | trying to not wake D.olby up, guaging how bad it is from moment to moment |
| 18:11.50 | KarlKFI | 165 KB uncompressed text |
| 18:11.52 | Funkeh` | Cairenn|afk, you guys plan on expanding to more servers? |
| 18:11.53 | Seerah | we're still being hammered by wowmatrix trying to scrape the pages for info, but it would be worse if they were actually downloading stuff and all of its users were still trying |
| 18:12.00 | Nuckin | Cairenn|afk: so bog it down with more server pings? lol |
| 18:12.07 | Seerah | It has its up and down moments |
| 18:12.08 | Cairenn|afk | Nuckin: :p |
| 18:12.13 | Kissy | Cairenn|afk: Quickie question, is "Edit & Update" the only way to update an AddOn on WoWInterface? |
| 18:12.32 | Cairenn|afk | Kissy: go to the addon page itself and use the update option there |
| 18:12.44 | Kissy | Right, that is the one I meant. |
| 18:12.50 | Cairenn|afk | yeah |
| 18:13.02 | Nuckin | Cairenn|afk: oh and thanks for the quick reply and fix from the PM :) |
| 18:13.10 | Cairenn|afk | Nuckin: you're welcome |
| 18:13.22 | Kissy | Trying to come up with a stream lined way of updating to all the sites I publish to. :D |
| 18:13.24 | Cairenn|afk | Funkeh`: I don't know, that's not my aread |
| 18:13.30 | Cairenn|afk | Kissy: nod |
| 18:13.45 | Cairenn|afk | you know about Shadowed's uploader, right? |
| 18:13.54 | KarlKFI | mmm Granted 65kb of that is generated LuaDocs based on comments in the regular files, so I guess those don't count |
| 18:13.54 | AbsolutRayne | So is it me |
| 18:14.03 | AbsolutRayne | Or is Oldworld loading slower than Northrend currently |
| 18:14.14 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds likely, AbsolutRayne. |
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| 18:14.28 | Kissy | I will look for it, Cairenn. |
| 18:14.44 | Cairenn|afk | kissy, trying to get you the link |
| 18:14.49 | Kissy | http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?uid=26677 |
| 18:14.55 | Cairenn|afk | having the same fun with 500 errors |
| 18:14.56 | Kissy | I found his portal at least. :) |
| 18:14.59 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: More stable Cherry Lite 9 will be out this afternoon |
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| 18:15.00 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 18:15.11 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 18:15.42 | AbsolutRayne | And apparently with less Personal Detail |
| 18:15.44 | AbsolutRayne | :| |
| 18:15.52 | Seerah | :) |
| 18:15.55 | Cairenn|afk | Kissy: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7633-WoWIModUploader.html |
| 18:16.10 | AbsolutRayne | Anyone have a geared Combat Rogue? |
| 18:16.16 | Cairenn|afk | it's a command line uploader that you can use from your SVN, etc |
| 18:16.19 | Shirik | Does freenode have a server not on the 6667 port? |
| 18:16.53 | End | I think so |
| 18:17.14 | Kissy | Looks really nice. |
| 18:17.14 | foxlit | meh, so they made aspirant's seals actual items. Why oh why! |
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| 18:17.34 | End | although, I can't find reference |
| 18:17.40 | foxlit | Cairenn|afk: that's a very pretty HTTP 500 page :) |
| 18:17.49 | Seerah | ~lart foxlit |
| 18:17.49 | purl | gives foxlit an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending foxlit to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple |
| 18:17.51 | Shirik | they used to have a list of servers at http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml |
| 18:17.58 | Shirik | but it doesn't seem like they list it anymore |
| 18:18.00 | End | they still have a list |
| 18:18.05 | Shirik | yes but not with ports |
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| 18:18.07 | Shirik | like they used to |
| 18:18.08 | End | oh |
| 18:18.08 | End | true |
| 18:18.31 | End | did you try port 8000 |
| 18:18.39 | End | I think that used to work |
| 18:18.46 | geargrind | kicks firefox for taking so damned long to start |
| 18:19.59 | Cairenn|afk | foxlit: I know :( |
| 18:20.10 | Cairenn|afk | afk a couple, folks, brb |
| 18:20.13 | AbsolutRayne | http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/09/brown-asian-names/ Racism! \o/ |
| 18:20.17 | kd3 | fox; because we only have to deal with them for 3 days |
| 18:20.24 | kd3 | now valiants seals I'm more annoyed about |
| 18:20.33 | kd3 | those we're dealing with for a solid month |
| 18:21.19 | Dagmar | They reduced the number you can get per day, or did they increase the number you need? |
| 18:21.22 | foxlit | Could've made them keys. Or something. |
| 18:21.36 | kd3 | aspirant takes 3 days... 5 per day to get 15 |
| 18:21.49 | kd3 | valiant takes a week, but you'll want to repeat that process again for the other 4 factions |
| 18:22.29 | mikma | HUZZAH for passive Siphon Life <3 |
| 18:22.56 | End | I love and hate passive siphon life |
| 18:23.47 | AbsolutRayne | God the new FoK Animation sucks. |
| 18:23.47 | Dagmar | kd3: Not really. |
| 18:23.58 | Dagmar | I might do it to get one other mount. |
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| 18:25.32 | kd3 | ...crap! I did yesterday's round of quests but I still forgot to pick up the FP |
| 18:25.33 | kd3 | sigh |
| 18:25.46 | Nuckin | lol |
| 18:25.57 | Nuckin | kd3: ive done that too many times |
| 18:25.58 | Lunessa | passive siphon life? |
| 18:26.00 | mikma | end: how can you hate it? :D it's free heals without GCD |
| 18:26.10 | End | it's less damage |
| 18:26.13 | End | plus |
| 18:26.19 | End | I need to find a new glyph |
| 18:26.32 | End | I'm speaking from a raiding point of view though |
| 18:27.26 | mikma | oh right |
| 18:27.29 | mikma | siphon was dot |
| 18:27.38 | End | yeah |
| 18:27.39 | Dagmar | Channeled, IIRC |
| 18:27.45 | End | er, no |
| 18:27.47 | End | just a dot |
| 18:28.00 | Dagmar | k |
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| 18:28.06 | End | as consolation, they added a passive damage bonus to corruption as part of the talent |
| 18:28.07 | Dagmar | It's been like six months since I've logged into my 'lock |
| 18:28.30 | foxlit | hm, new minimap is awesome |
| 18:28.43 | End | overall, I like it |
| 18:28.46 | foxlit | and they fixed the tracking bug |
| 18:28.51 | End | quest icons are non-massive now :P |
| 18:29.01 | mikma | foxlit: no it's not. the *,?,! are way too small now |
| 18:29.02 | End | and you can see class colors for raid members |
| 18:29.09 | mikma | WHAT?! tracking bug fixed noooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 18:29.17 | End | * might be too small, but I think ? and ! are perfect now |
| 18:29.25 | amro | most are too small |
| 18:29.32 | amro | and what the hell is with NPC names being gigantic? |
| 18:29.37 | foxlit | Meh, I can distinguish ? ! from the map itself, which is all I ever need |
| 18:29.48 | amro | try finding a DK on the minimap |
| 18:29.55 | amro | in a dark area |
| 18:30.27 | Nuckin | eek, connection reset for WoWI, nooooooo |
| 18:31.18 | Nuckin | the server kick the bucket? |
| 18:31.23 | mikma | foxlit: does that mean my double-tracking is gone?! |
| 18:31.30 | Cairenn|afk | Dolby is resetting things |
| 18:31.35 | foxlit | mikma: who knows? :) |
| 18:31.55 | foxlit | I was referring to the one where it wouldn't pick up on you canceling the current tracking. |
| 18:32.12 | AbsolutRayne | Hmm |
| 18:32.16 | AbsolutRayne | new Recount isnt working |
| 18:32.19 | Nuckin | Cairenn|afk: kk, i was just bored and trolling for updated addons |
| 18:32.20 | kd3 | double tracking worked for me yesterday... entirely on accident |
| 18:32.25 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 18:32.41 | mikma | foxlit: oh. then i gotta go and test this |
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| 18:34.07 | foxlit | they removed the argent titles? |
| 18:34.08 | foxlit | as in "of Stormwind" |
| 18:34.52 | kd3 | afaik they're still there |
| 18:35.09 | foxlit | perhaps it's just a multi-level achievement. |
| 18:35.12 | kd3 | yes |
| 18:35.20 | kd3 | 'exalted champion of...' comes after 'champion of...' |
| 18:36.18 | kd3 | is there any way to clear tracked achievements/quests from the quest tracking UI without being able to see it? |
| 18:37.11 | Fisker- | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:38.04 | mikma | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 18:38.10 | mikma | my double tracking is fixed :( |
| 18:38.29 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 18:38.33 | Shirik | my officers are morons |
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| 18:39.02 | mikma | ahahahaa |
| 18:39.02 | Fisker- | hey Shirik |
| 18:39.06 | mikma | now it bugged again |
| 18:39.08 | mikma | wooooo! |
| 18:39.12 | Shirik | Just got an email "I think I may have screwed up Brum's DKP. Badly. I think that the running total needs to be recalculated. I charged an item to him that was 123456 DKP and the system seems to only be able to display 9999.99 and that messed it up." |
| 18:39.22 | Shirik | wtf were you charging him 123456 DKP for >< |
| 18:39.43 | widgertick | Probably whelp related. |
| 18:39.53 | Nuckin | haha |
| 18:40.07 | Nuckin | he bid over nine thousand!! |
| 18:40.19 | Shirik | for comparison |
| 18:40.26 | Shirik | our items are generally on the order of 50-100 DKP |
| 18:40.31 | Esamynn | lol |
| 18:40.33 | Shirik | lua> 123456 / 8 |
| 18:40.34 | lua_bot | Shirik: 15432 |
| 18:40.39 | Shirik | that's 15432 boss kills |
| 18:40.40 | Nuckin | what item was it./ |
| 18:40.47 | Shirik | I don't know >< |
| 18:40.58 | Esamynn | that number, strikes me as odd |
| 18:41.05 | Floo | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/112349 |
| 18:41.12 | Floo | can someone help me with error? |
| 18:41.19 | Esamynn | and not because of it's size, more the digits, and their order ;) |
| 18:41.30 | ZorbaTHut | whoa, salt shaker cooldown gone |
| 18:41.43 | Nuckin | Floo, whats the error? |
| 18:41.55 | Floo | its pasted in text |
| 18:42.07 | Floo | local number, name = string.match(link,".*item:(%d+).*%[([%a%s]*)%]") |
| 18:42.11 | Floo | dont work |
| 18:42.18 | Floo | i dont know why |
| 18:42.39 | Nuckin | Floo: trace back the varibale named "number" |
| 18:42.50 | Floo | what is trace back? |
| 18:42.59 | Nuckin | Floo: there is a boo boo somewhere making it nil instead of a value |
| 18:43.37 | Floo | ... what is trace back? |
| 18:43.42 | Nuckin | Floo: 'trace back' as in, read through your code from where the variable is initialized to where it errors |
| 18:43.51 | Floo | this is first |
| 18:43.53 | Floo | hmm |
| 18:43.56 | Floo | maybe |
| 18:44.01 | foxlit | it's not very interesting. |
| 18:44.07 | foxlit | Your link doesn't match your pattern. |
| 18:44.08 | foxlit | Next. |
| 18:44.31 | Floo | foxlit can you help me with pattern? |
| 18:44.59 | Nuckin | i just read "concatenate to number (a nil value)", which i get when i make a boo boo :-P |
| 18:45.05 | AbsolutRayne | Hmm |
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| 18:45.40 | Esamynn | Floo: what are you trying to do |
| 18:45.47 | Esamynn | extract the item number? |
| 18:45.56 | Floo | item number and item name |
| 18:46.01 | Floo | from link |
| 18:46.50 | foxlit | mm, westfall, sunset, pretty! |
| 18:48.16 | Esamynn | Floo: in this case, since you are getting the link from an item in your inventory, you can just use GetItemInfo |
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| 18:49.24 | AbsolutRayne | 'Interface\AddonsRecount\Tracker.lia:3: Cannoy find a library instance of "LibBossISs-1.0". |
| 18:49.28 | AbsolutRayne | O_o |
| 18:49.53 | Stanzilla | install the lib |
| 18:49.56 | Nuckin | .lia? |
| 18:49.57 | Stanzilla | done |
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| 18:50.35 | AbsolutRayne | I mistyped |
| 18:50.39 | AbsolutRayne | Windowed Mode ftw |
| 18:50.41 | Esamynn | lol |
| 18:50.52 | Floo | Esamynn but i need the item number |
| 18:51.14 | Floo | and its not in GetItemInfo |
| 18:51.21 | Nuckin | AbsolutRayne: lol :-P |
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| 18:51.22 | Esamynn | yes it is |
| 18:51.33 | Floo | just in link ... |
| 18:51.34 | Esamynn | oh wait |
| 18:51.40 | Esamynn | you right, my bad |
| 18:52.10 | Esamynn | s/you/you're/ |
| 18:52.34 | Floo | but i dont understand because it work in luabot |
| 18:52.51 | Floo | lua> local number, name = string.match("item:1235[this]",".*item:(%d+).*%[([%a%s]*)%]") |
| 18:52.51 | lua_bot | Floo: No output |
| 18:52.52 | Esamynn | try ".*item:(%d+).*%[(.-)%]" as your regex |
| 18:53.09 | Esamynn | lua> string.match("item:1235[this]",".*item:(%d+).*%[([%a%s]*)%]") |
| 18:53.09 | lua_bot | Esamynn: 1235, this |
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| 18:53.16 | Esamynn | lua> string.match("item:1235[this - blah]",".*item:(%d+).*%[([%a%s]*)%]") |
| 18:53.16 | lua_bot | Esamynn: nil |
| 18:53.42 | Esamynn | lua> string.match("item:1235[this - blah]",".*item:(%d+).*%[(.-)%]") |
| 18:53.42 | lua_bot | Esamynn: 1235, this - blah |
| 18:54.26 | AbsolutRayne | Yay it works now ^_^ |
| 18:54.47 | Floo | ok thx |
| 18:54.59 | Esamynn | Floo: basically, your regex didn't account for punctuation in the item name |
| 18:55.50 | Floo | it get error because i have ' in item name? |
| 18:55.52 | mikma | huh |
| 18:56.01 | mikma | i wonder why aren't professionslinks working |
| 18:56.22 | Esamynn | lua> string.match("\124cff0070dd\124Hitem:44563:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Pattern: Fur Lining - Arcane Resist]\124h\124r"",".*item:(%d+).*%[(.-)%]") |
| 18:56.23 | lua_bot | Esamynn: luabot:1: ')' expected near '","' |
| 18:56.31 | Esamynn | lua_bot: bit me |
| 18:56.32 | lua_bot | Esamynn: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'me' |
| 18:56.51 | Esamynn | lua> string.match("\124cff0070dd\124Hitem:44563:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Pattern: Fur Lining - Arcane Resist]\124h\124r",".*item:(%d+).*%[(.-)%]") |
| 18:56.52 | lua_bot | Esamynn: 44563, Pattern: Fur Lining - Arcane Resist |
| 18:58.07 | Esamynn | ~fishslap mikma |
| 18:58.08 | purl | ACTION slaps mikma up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 18:58.08 | kneeki | http://www.elliottkember.com/ie.html |
| 18:58.09 | kneeki | lol |
| 18:58.15 | Esamynn | mikma: Learn2English |
| 18:58.38 | Nuckin | lol |
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| 18:58.58 | mikma | esamynn: waaa, it was english |
| 18:59.11 | Esamynn | no, it wasn't |
| 18:59.18 | mikma | sure it was |
| 18:59.40 | Esamynn | the words were English, the sentence was not |
| 19:00.02 | mikma | you know what? i don't care actually cause english is not my 1st language :) |
| 19:01.18 | Esamynn | and who was your teacher? a bad Yoda impersonator? :P |
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| 19:01.53 | mikma | Leisure Suit Larry |
| 19:02.03 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 19:02.09 | Esamynn | maybe I don't wanna know |
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| 19:05.01 | Nuckin | Esine: nice quit message lol |
| 19:05.08 | Esine | hm? |
| 19:05.30 | Esamynn | Esine has left freenode ("Save your souls, install Linux") |
| 19:05.38 | Esine | oh sorry.. I've had that for almost 5 years now :x never bothered to change it |
| 19:05.49 | Esamynn | don't be sorry :P |
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| 19:06.21 | Esine | finally got my reverse dns :s |
| 19:07.43 | Nuckin | lol |
| 19:10.19 | Shirik | Is the size of an RSA key equal to the size of its modulus? |
| 19:10.27 | Shirik | i.e., a 1024 bit key has a 1024 bit public modulus? |
| 19:10.43 | Shirik | guess the modulus is always the same |
| 19:11.11 | Kissy | FubarPlugin question, if I use FubarPlugin:Hide(), what is the appropriate call to detect if it is hidden/shown? I can not seem to find one and the others for text/icon do not seem to change either. When hiding the plugin. |
| 19:12.16 | Nuckin | IsVisible() |
| 19:13.24 | Kissy | will try! |
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| 19:14.39 | Kissy | Nuckin: attempt to call method 'IsVisible' (a nil value) |
| 19:14.52 | Funkeh` | is there a simple non-500ing way us authors can upload our addons |
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| 19:15.51 | Cairenn|afk | Funkeh`: sorry dear, we're slammed, just keep trying, or try again in a while, or tomorrow |
| 19:16.05 | Cairenn|afk | not the answer I want to give, but /shrug |
| 19:16.17 | Nuckin | Kissy: 1 sec |
| 19:16.30 | Funkeh` | Alright, was just wondering if there was a secret dev url |
| 19:16.38 | Cairenn|afk | unfortunately, no :( |
| 19:16.46 | Funkeh` | aww, alright |
| 19:16.49 | mikma | we want private-servers from wowi!!1 |
| 19:16.56 | mikma | lagfree downloads! |
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| 19:17.03 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 19:17.08 | Cairenn|afk | we'd love to give them to you |
| 19:17.08 | Funkeh` | screw downloads |
| 19:17.09 | Nuckin | Kissy: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Region_IsVisible |
| 19:17.18 | Funkeh` | I just want it uploaded so I can tick it off me to-do :P |
| 19:17.30 | Cairenn|afk | I know, I'm sorry |
| 19:17.41 | Funkeh` | you really don't need to apologize so much :P |
| 19:17.56 | Cairenn|afk | yes I do :p |
| 19:18.04 | Funkeh` | pfft |
| 19:18.11 | Cairenn|afk | my baby isn't feeling well and I can't make her better |
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| 19:18.16 | Dagmar | Fewer apologies, more gruesome disembowelings is the way to go. |
| 19:18.24 | Cairenn|afk | Dagmar: lol |
| 19:18.25 | Nuckin | Cairenn|afk: lol no you don't some of us updated for 3.1 days ago :-P |
| 19:18.30 | Lopeppeppy | ^ |
| 19:18.33 | Cairenn|afk | thanks guys |
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| 19:19.45 | alestane | I did my upload the other day, only fought with the bandwidth today trying to get my donate link enabled. |
| 19:20.40 | Cairenn|afk | honest to [diety of choice], I don't know how we would survive days like this if we didn't have your support, guys |
| 19:20.48 | Cairenn|afk | thank you |
| 19:21.16 | mikma | that won't do!!1 we want more love! (j/K) |
| 19:21.23 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 19:21.28 | geargrind | chooses FSM |
| 19:21.29 | alestane | Without our support, you would have an empty site, so no-one would use your bandwidth on patch days...but I'm glad we're helping. |
| 19:21.36 | Nuckin | Cairenn|afk: we love you too |
| 19:21.51 | Cairenn|afk | alestane: :p |
| 19:22.56 | Adys | Cairenn|afk: <3 |
| 19:23.11 | Adys | I just had one of those deja-vus again |
| 19:23.14 | Adys | bloody annoying |
| 19:23.43 | Nuckin | Adys: I'm gonna have to liskten to Deja Entendu because you said that lol |
| 19:23.57 | Cairenn|afk | do tell? any and all laughs, hugs, distractions, amusements are gratefully accepted .... |
| 19:24.30 | Adys | Cairenn|afk: I was about to say I linked the curse/wowi post about wm around on mmoc today |
| 19:24.38 | Adys | and Im sure i said that at some point before |
| 19:24.38 | Adys | which |
| 19:24.40 | Adys | is impossible |
| 19:24.43 | Cairenn|afk | ah |
| 19:24.45 | Adys | since its today it was published |
| 19:25.00 | mikma | WM discovered a way to circle around protection yet? :D |
| 19:25.07 | Cairenn|afk | ummm, no it wasn't |
| 19:25.11 | Cairenn|afk | we posted it on monday |
| 19:25.19 | Adys | oh, hm |
| 19:25.34 | Adys | hold on |
| 19:25.46 | Adys | be right back, gotta catch my subconscious, it's trying to run off |
| 19:25.51 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 19:25.55 | alestane | I like the people in the scream0fest thread claiming that it was unethical of Curse and WoWI to do this to WM's users on patch day. |
| 19:26.07 | Lopeppeppy | I'd like them all to DIAF |
| 19:26.17 | Lopeppeppy | nice and toasty warm, that. |
| 19:26.20 | Nuckin | alestane: i saw that freaking hilarious |
| 19:26.36 | Cairenn|afk | which one, there are a ton of them :p |
| 19:27.12 | durcyn | it wasn't on patch day |
| 19:27.16 | durcyn | it was the day before. QED. |
| 19:27.17 | Dagmar | Interesting. Lamers claiming things they don't like are unethical now? |
| 19:27.25 | Nuckin | i saw one of the ones where a blue post got in |
| 19:27.31 | Dagmar | Perhaps they think the word means something different |
| 19:27.39 | Nuckin | and blue post made me laugh :) |
| 19:27.46 | Cairenn|afk | blue post? |
| 19:27.54 | Cairenn|afk | link? |
| 19:27.58 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, do please. :) |
| 19:28.06 | Cairenn|afk | I didn't see any blue post |
| 19:28.06 | Nuckin | i'll try and find it |
| 19:28.20 | Cairenn|afk | mind you, I'm having a hell of a time trying to keep up with all the different places |
| 19:28.41 | Lopeppeppy | I saw a few of my green posts, trying to be helpful, but the drama llamas ran over me. |
| 19:29.04 | Hirsute-Home | People have been asked, advised, warned and scolded about using WoWMatrix for *months*. If they wouldn't listen, they screwed themselves. |
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| 19:29.22 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 19:29.34 | Nuckin | woot |
| 19:29.35 | Nuckin | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/16418681756-wow-matrix-blocked-by-the-heads-wtf.html |
| 19:29.38 | Cairenn|afk | I can't even write responses, the posts are coming so fast. Besides which, no one is going to listen to me today anyway (much like yesterday, and probably tomorrow), so ... |
| 19:29.41 | alestane | THe only blue post I see from recent is http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16417182173&sid=1 , but I only looked in UI/Macros. |
| 19:29.53 | Cairenn|afk | oh, is that all? shoot |
| 19:30.07 | Cairenn|afk | hoped they actually stood up for us or something |
| 19:30.29 | alestane | They can't really take a public stance on it, I suspect. |
| 19:30.30 | Nuckin | Cairenn|afk: it wasn't THAT good |
| 19:30.32 | Cairenn|afk | although I also realize it isn't ... |
| 19:30.37 | Cairenn|afk | alestane: ^^ |
| 19:30.52 | Cairenn|afk | I was just about to say ;) |
| 19:31.13 | Cairenn|afk | ... isn't something they can really say anything about |
| 19:31.23 | Nuckin | so is WoWMatrix useless right now? |
| 19:31.28 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, thank the stars. |
| 19:31.32 | Cairenn|afk | no, it works absolutely fine |
| 19:31.32 | Hirsute-Home | Nuckin: mostly |
| 19:31.40 | Cairenn|afk | on sites other than Curse and WoWI |
| 19:31.59 | Nuckin | well that kills access to 80% of addons i'd guess |
| 19:32.00 | Lopeppeppy | True. |
| 19:32.56 | alestane | What people like the poster Zarhym replied to don't seem to understand is that WoWMatrix is not an add-on service, it is an index. |
| 19:32.58 | Nuckin | I did notice my addon was on there now |
| 19:33.20 | Cairenn|afk | Nuckin: with or without your blessing, is the question |
| 19:33.27 | alestane | Updater ~= host provider. |
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| 19:35.41 | amro | so the NPCs at the argent tourney are attackable >_< |
| 19:35.51 | amro | and it's a sanctuary. fun is sure to ensue. |
| 19:36.04 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, si there a link to Zarhym's post? I'd like to see it. |
| 19:36.09 | durcyn | aldor t4 vendor all over again |
| 19:36.19 | alestane | [3:29pm] Nuckin: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/16418681756-wow-matrix-blocked-by-the-heads-wtf.html |
| 19:36.33 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, missed it, thanks! |
| 19:37.04 | Lopeppeppy | I try to keep track of the illustrious skull-creature. |
| 19:37.15 | Lopeppeppy | He's not a sprocket, but he'll do in a pinch, to roast hot dogs with. |
| 19:37.18 | AckisWork | http://evilshae.deviantart.com/art/A-Drawing-a-Day-3-119312514 |
| 19:38.00 | Nuckin | lol |
| 19:38.26 | Fisker- | slaps AckisWork around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:38.52 | Kissy | Nuckin: That only works for a frame and such. When I hide the actual FuBarPlugin I have no idea which frame I should test against since for example, the plugin for mine is labeled CleanMinimap, but that is not a frame I can test. |
| 19:38.52 | AckisWork | Cairenn|afk: what was that? I wasn't listening to you |
| 19:38.56 | AckisWork | giggles |
| 19:38.58 | Kissy | Also, late reply. |
| 19:39.05 | alestane | <3 Faizaniel: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16409812008&sid=1 |
| 19:40.51 | tekkub | so I hear Obama got teabagged? |
| 19:40.54 | AckisWork | Cairenn|afk: wowi mods are slow today :( |
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| 19:41.02 | Cairenn|afk | AckisWork: yup :( |
| 19:41.08 | jnwhiteh | AckisWork: tell wowmatrix to stop pounding the servers |
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| 19:41.25 | Shirik | lua> 256 * 8 |
| 19:41.26 | lua_bot | Shirik: 2048 |
| 19:41.36 | tekkub | what are they trying to DoS now? |
| 19:41.39 | AckisWork | jnwhiteh: NO U? |
| 19:41.51 | jnwhiteh | tekkub: no, but the users continue to click "update all" |
| 19:41.54 | jnwhiteh | and that continues to pound the servers |
| 19:41.57 | Shirik | tekkub: Just because we stop them downloading doesn't mean it doesn't try to |
| 19:42.11 | Shirik | so it still tries to look up the info, etc. |
| 19:42.21 | tekkub | oh, you mean the scraping half of the pounding |
| 19:42.26 | Kaso | where is the block done? User-Agent level or what? |
| 19:42.32 | tekkub | not the downloading or the ass halves of the pounding |
| 19:42.38 | Shirik | right tekkub |
| 19:42.45 | tekkub | Kaso: that'd be pointless :) |
| 19:42.52 | tekkub | it's a lot better than that |
| 19:42.54 | Kaso | well of course they could mimic a browser |
| 19:43.02 | tekkub | they already do |
| 19:43.11 | AckisWork | jnwhiteh: can't you now go forward and say they're trying to perform a DDOS? |
| 19:43.15 | Kaso | So how is it done? some sort of heuristic? |
| 19:43.24 | tekkub | majicks! |
| 19:43.31 | jnwhiteh | AckisWork: its no different today from a week ago |
| 19:44.01 | tekkub | I don't know the details for obvious reasons, but the dowload is supposed to be un-scrapable and only valid for a short time |
| 19:44.02 | AckisWork | jnwhiteh: a week ago they could say they were downloading files, today it's just random hits on the server |
| 19:44.17 | NeoTron | isn't there some sort of identification in the requests from wowmatrix? |
| 19:44.18 | jnwhiteh | they're just downloading info pages |
| 19:44.19 | tekkub | and easily changeable if they do break it |
| 19:44.24 | jnwhiteh | NeoTron: none. |
| 19:44.28 | NeoTron | even if they emulate a browser, there's usually something that shows they are not |
| 19:44.34 | NeoTron | like a missing header or extra header or something |
| 19:44.37 | jnwhiteh | NeoTron: there isn't.. if you understand HTTP 1.1 |
| 19:44.43 | jnwhiteh | you can do whatever the hell you want |
| 19:44.46 | NeoTron | of course |
| 19:44.50 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 19:45.00 | NeoTron | but often the "clone" has flaws |
| 19:45.17 | NeoTron | you could definitely do smart blocking though by looking at "browsint habits" |
| 19:45.25 | NeoTron | the flow of the traffic.. but that's harder |
| 19:45.37 | tekkub | TPW, wouldn't that require a lot of planning to get you all sober at the same time? |
| 19:45.47 | jnwhiteh | you can check referrers |
| 19:45.47 | tekkub | gah |
| 19:45.47 | tekkub | mt |
| 19:45.47 | jnwhiteh | and other stuff |
| 19:45.47 | jnwhiteh | but that doesn't work |
| 19:45.54 | jnwhiteh | they get around that |
| 19:46.06 | Hirsute-Home | All of those things you can check, unfortunately, can be forged with triviality. |
| 19:46.14 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 19:46.31 | Hirsute-Home | heck, the client uses curl to generate it's http requests. |
| 19:46.46 | Hirsute-Home | you can put whatever you want in the headers |
| 19:46.53 | Hirsute-Home | forge referrers |
| 19:46.57 | NeoTron | of course you can |
| 19:47.05 | NeoTron | however it's a lot of work to exactly mimic a browser |
| 19:47.22 | Hirsute-Home | Whatever. I don't know how they've blocked them, and I'm glad they're not talking about it, hopefully WM will just go away and die soon. |
| 19:47.24 | kneeki | Any URL addons updated for 3.1? ReURL is throwing taint errors |
| 19:47.27 | NeoTron | and jnwhiteh a user doesn't go to the download page for 20-100 addons in a manner which would be like an automated program |
| 19:47.30 | Shirik | lua> for x = 1, 256, 4 do print(x) end |
| 19:47.31 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1, 5, 9, 13, 17, 21, 25, 29, 33, 37, 41, 45, 49, 53, 57, 61, 65, 69, 73, 77, 81, 85, 89, 93, 97, 101, 105, 109, 113, 117, 121, 125, 129, 133, 137, 141, 145, 149, 153, 157, 161, 165, 169, 173, 177, 181, 185, 189, 193, 197, 201, 205, 209, 213, 217, 221, 225, 229, 233, 237, 241, 245, 249, 253 |
| 19:47.40 | Shirik | Ok, can anyone give me a good reason that wou......... |
| 19:47.42 | Shirik | nm |
| 19:47.43 | jnwhiteh | NeoTron: they do now. |
| 19:47.43 | Shirik | I'm dumb |
| 19:47.45 | End | what was the point of that? |
| 19:47.45 | Kissy | Basically because of how the system works, even if they figure out how to get out it, one value change will cause the WoWMatrix team to start over on breaking it. I have figure out how to get around it, but it would be easily to instantly block again. |
| 19:47.48 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 19:47.49 | jnwhiteh | NeoTron: that's precisely the point, they don't have a choice. |
| 19:48.02 | NeoTron | jnwhiteh: people with firefox has no choice ? |
| 19:48.12 | Kissy | *figured |
| 19:48.14 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 19:48.17 | jnwhiteh | i misread what you said |
| 19:48.23 | NeoTron | my point is a user with firefox or msie doesn't browse like wowmatrix does |
| 19:48.30 | jnwhiteh | of course they dno't. |
| 19:48.36 | jnwhiteh | traffic analysis is much harder than the current solution |
| 19:48.37 | NeoTron | so you can do pattern/browsing matching to find if there are an unusual traffic |
| 19:48.40 | jnwhiteh | and this is more effective |
| 19:48.42 | NeoTron | typical DDOS blocking |
| 19:48.49 | alestane | See level 25 orc fight back against The Man on behalf of the little guy! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16409962003&sid=1 |
| 19:48.51 | NeoTron | except for one thing |
| 19:48.54 | Kirov | One possible outcome from this is WoWMatrix starts being a real addon host. |
| 19:48.58 | *** join/#wowuidev Esine (i=dbguy@tohveli.net) |
| 19:49.04 | End | doubtful |
| 19:49.04 | Kirov | Another is they just download them all manually. |
| 19:49.07 | NeoTron | your solution breaks downloads (and downlod bandwidth) but doesn't remove the hammering on the website |
| 19:49.15 | jnwhiteh | Kirov: then we DMCA them |
| 19:49.18 | jnwhiteh | NeoTron: we don't have a choice. |
| 19:49.19 | jnwhiteh | it has to stop |
| 19:49.23 | NeoTron | eventually users will catch on |
| 19:49.36 | jnwhiteh | 99% of all users don't see a single change on the site |
| 19:49.37 | ZorbaTHut | I'm half-expecting them to jam a P2P network into wowmatrix and do it that way |
| 19:49.38 | jnwhiteh | and wowmatrix is broken |
| 19:49.42 | jnwhiteh | that was precisely the goal |
| 19:49.43 | NeoTron | I understand, of course, that it's a lot more complex to block by behavior |
| 19:50.04 | Nuckin | kissy: that WoW Wiki article fix your Hide(); issue? |
| 19:50.05 | AckisWork | alestane: post for me: "Ackis says you're a dumbass." |
| 19:50.12 | Kissy | Nuckin: Nope. |
| 19:50.21 | Kissy | Nuckin: That only works for a frame and such. When I hide the actual FuBarPlugin I have no idea which frame I should test against since for example, the plugin for mine is labeled CleanMinimap, but that is not a frame I can test.(Repost) |
| 19:50.30 | alestane | AckisWork: I'm afraid I can't do that in green text. Not that I disagree. |
| 19:50.36 | AckisWork | alestane: bah! |
| 19:50.47 | Nuckin | Kissy: parent it to a frame |
| 19:51.49 | Kissy | It is not a frame to start with. D: |
| 19:52.02 | Nuckin | Kissy: then try setAlpha |
| 19:52.20 | Nuckin | kissy: i think thats a globally inherited function |
| 19:54.20 | Nuckin | Kissy: SetAlpha(0) to hide and GetAlpha() == 0 to check if hidden |
| 19:54.47 | Kaso | To the people in the know: do you have any statistics about the prevalence of wowmatrix (prior to this ofc), like what proportion of downloads on the sites via wowmatrix? |
| 19:55.29 | Kissy | Nuckin: attempt to call method 'GetAlpha' (a nil value) |
| 19:55.44 | kneeki | frame:IsVisible() or IsShowing() ? |
| 19:55.58 | kneeki | nah, not IsShowing(0 |
| 19:56.01 | kneeki | use IsVisible() |
| 19:56.15 | Kissy | Okay, "CleanMinimap" is not a frame. It is a FubarPlugin instance and has no API region functions. |
| 19:57.02 | Nuckin | Kissy: the alpha functions i gave you are UIObject |
| 19:57.15 | alestane | Than I would presume that some field of its table would link back to the frame or region that represents it on the screen. May I recommend DevTools and its /dtframestack command? |
| 19:57.19 | kneeki | Kissy: I have not been reading what you were talking about. I just knew IsVisible() > GetAlpha() |
| 19:58.03 | Nuckin | kneeki: IsVisible needs a frame or a frame child, Alpha functions are UIObject |
| 19:58.15 | tekkub | http://www.popsci.com/bacon |
| 19:58.16 | kneeki | Ah |
| 19:58.27 | foxlit | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/images/oct07/valve/ep2-19.jpg |
| 19:59.09 | foxlit | The wotlk loading screen reminds me of this |
| 19:59.10 | foxlit | (or perhaps an earlier scene) |
| 20:00.24 | Kissy | The function CleanMinimap:Hide() gets mapped to the instance of the function FubarPlugin:Hide() which in turn determines the frame it needs to hide based on the instance of the FubarPlugin back to the main AddOn. |
| 20:00.24 | Adys | Anyone knows if there are services you can send a MMS to and grab its content online? Trying to get a picture out of a cell here |
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| 20:00.39 | Dagmar | Being able to fetch images *from* a phone only works if you're Paris Hilton |
| 20:00.42 | Kissy | There, I found the frame name. LibFuBarPlugin-3.0_CleanMinimap_FrameMinimapButton |
| 20:01.43 | Adys | Dagmar: this cell got no outside world connection apart from the ability to send/receive calls, sms and mms |
| 20:01.50 | Adys | (for a moment you'd think it's a phone) |
| 20:02.34 | Jamash | use another phone to take a picture of the first phone |
| 20:03.09 | tekkub | Cairenn|afk: poke |
| 20:03.20 | Adys | Jamash: I dont have another phone |
| 20:03.22 | Cairenn|afk | tekkub: prod |
| 20:03.41 | Nuckin | Kissy: sorry lol, I don't know fubar specific stuff, was trying to give you API answers :) |
| 20:04.00 | Kissy | Nuckin: :P *Prod!* Because I can. |
| 20:04.02 | Adys | is there no online service that you can send this kind of stuff to? meh |
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| 20:05.01 | Jamash | it depends on your carrier |
| 20:07.51 | Nuckin | laughs at Kissy |
| 20:10.15 | ckknight | Does "Maul" come on IRC? |
| 20:10.27 | alestane | ~seen maul |
| 20:10.28 | purl | maul <n=maul@5403B0EB.catv.pool.telekom.hu> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 7d 5h 33m 54s ago, saying: 'hey, I have another simple question: how do I save a table as savedvariable? if I define it with pos = {} it doesn't seem to work (I assume it overwrites the saved one)'. |
| 20:10.42 | alestane | Not sure if that's the same guy. |
| 20:10.59 | alestane | I suspect the one you're looking for knows how SavedVariables work. |
| 20:11.04 | Lunessa | Not the same guy at all |
| 20:11.38 | Lunessa | ckknight: The answer is 'no.' Maul (Trinity, macaroon, et al) does not hang out here. |
| 20:11.45 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:13.18 | Lunessa | Adys: Your carrier might allow you to get the data out with a service they provide. Depends on the carrier, the plan, etc. Check with your carrier... they often have a "forwarding" service where you cana MMS the image and specify an e-mail address for it to be sent to. |
| 20:14.23 | Adys | thanks Lunessa I'll check |
| 20:15.43 | Lunessa | And if you flirt with the right employees, they'll sometimes help you even if they don't provide such a service. This is strictly caveat emptor. |
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| 20:18.00 | AckisWork | best quote of the day: "wow you put like a masturbating emote on one" |
| 20:18.02 | AckisWork | lol |
| 20:18.06 | AckisWork | I love my life |
| 20:18.12 | Legorol | anyone here have managed to kill Razorscale in 25-man? |
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| 20:18.31 | Legorol | If so, we are stuck on something, I could use some help. We are having a problem with chain lightnings killing everyone |
| 20:20.11 | NeoTron | Legorol: yep |
| 20:20.19 | NeoTron | interrupt it |
| 20:20.22 | NeoTron | and spread out |
| 20:20.38 | NeoTron | and key is to interrupt chain lighting only, not the lightning bolts |
| 20:20.42 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn|afk: so did you find out what happened with the ewolson addons? |
| 20:21.03 | Cairenn|afk | (2009-04-15 11:44:46) Cairenn: aaand ... there's the confirmation that ewolson changed those files on purpose, he wasn't hacked: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16409961120&sid=1&pageNo=4#60 |
| 20:21.16 | Cairenn|afk | (granted, that was posted in a different channel, but yeah) |
| 20:21.41 | TecnoBrat | NeoTron, I know, 20 mins behind ... they could block the old requests, as I'm guessing wowmatix hasn't been updated with the new style of download requests (since they will fail anyways) |
| 20:21.47 | Lopeppeppy | He moved them himself, posted it all over the WoW forums. |
| 20:21.55 | Arrowmaster | yeah i saw that |
| 20:22.01 | Arrowmaster | i hope you perma banned him |
| 20:22.07 | alestane | <3 Desecrate some more: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16409961120&sid=1&pageNo=4#64 |
| 20:22.10 | Cairenn|afk | not as of yet |
| 20:22.23 | alestane | "I spent the morning trying to do this myself. For my efforts I have received loot: 1 [Strong Tension Headache]. " |
| 20:22.59 | ckknight | alestane: people need to make a distinction between "view source" and "open source" |
| 20:23.59 | TecnoBrat | are they seriously saying you can't restrict people to download directly from you because it has to be "open source"? lol |
| 20:24.14 | Arrowmaster | what would it take to get blizzard to make a post on their locked ui policy thread clairifing that part 1 and 2 do not make an addon "open source" |
| 20:24.24 | Lunessa | Cairenn|afk: Did he do something to the files on WoWI? |
| 20:24.25 | alestane | They don't honestly need to. |
| 20:24.29 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: yes |
| 20:24.33 | TecnoBrat | "The programming code of an add-on must in no way be hidden or obfuscated, and must be freely accessible to and viewable by the general public." |
| 20:24.42 | TecnoBrat | The key words here "programming code" |
| 20:24.59 | Cairenn|afk | Lunessa: |
| 20:25.00 | Cairenn|afk | (2009-04-15 11:51:11) Cairenn: (2009-04-15 03:11:34) Aezay: What is up with the EWOlson addons on WoWInterface http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9359-EWOlson_GetSellValue.html they are all the same, creates loads of frames and prints print("EWOlson.name, WoWMatrix.com") |
| 20:25.01 | Cairenn|afk | (2009-04-15 11:51:11) Cairenn: https://gist.github.com/7e9776291d2ecd42e75b |
| 20:25.01 | Cairenn|afk | (2009-04-15 11:51:40) Cairenn: clicking the first link will get you nowhere, since it's disabled |
| 20:25.01 | Cairenn|afk | (2009-04-15 11:51:52) Seerah: *nod* |
| 20:25.02 | Cairenn|afk | (2009-04-15 11:51:55) Cairenn: but what he did is explained between the two of them |
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| 20:25.34 | Cairenn|afk | sorry, just easier to copy & paste than type it all out again :) |
| 20:25.44 | Shirik | wonders what Cairenn|afk is talking about |
| 20:25.47 | TecnoBrat | Cairenn|afk, OMG advertising in a mod! ban ban! |
| 20:25.54 | TecnoBrat | winks |
| 20:26.01 | Cairenn|afk | spanks TecnoBrat |
| 20:26.01 | Nuckin | lol |
| 20:26.03 | AckisWork | TecnoBrat: harmful addon = bigger ban? |
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| 20:26.06 | Nuckin | whoa! |
| 20:26.14 | Nuckin | *GASP* |
| 20:26.16 | TecnoBrat | AckisWork, haha that too |
| 20:26.26 | Lunessa | Cairenn|afk: I'd already seen his posts on the wow ui & macros forms, but I didn't realize he'd sabotaged the files he posted on WoWI - I always thought he was hack and a prat. |
| 20:27.27 | Lopeppeppy | ^ |
| 20:27.43 | Arrowmaster | if i knew what his curse account was i would ban it |
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| 20:29.20 | Kaso | "Do you think more then maybe half of 1% of the community gives a damn as to who an author of a mod is?" |
| 20:29.55 | ZorbaTHut | kaso, in fairness, while I do think more than that care, I think most of them only care so they know who to complain to |
| 20:30.00 | TecnoBrat | Arrowmaster, I would assume http://wow.curse.com/members/EWOlson.aspx |
| 20:30.12 | Kaso | lol ZorbaTHut |
| 20:30.29 | TecnoBrat | "EWOlson added the file EWOlson_AutoLootRoll to Addons." |
| 20:31.00 | Arrowmaster | TecnoBrat: doesnt have any addons currently |
| 20:31.06 | TecnoBrat | yea |
| 20:31.11 | AckisWork | haha Arrowmaster that guy pissed me off before |
| 20:31.17 | Arrowmaster | me too |
| 20:31.21 | Arrowmaster | tekkub too |
| 20:31.26 | Shadowed | ooo what'd he do |
| 20:31.30 | Arrowmaster | hes pissed off a lot of authors before |
| 20:31.34 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: http://wow.curseforge.com/admin/activities/projects_project-7238-project-7238/ |
| 20:31.36 | tekkub | EWOlson or whatever his name is? |
| 20:31.39 | Shadowed | yea tek |
| 20:31.48 | tekkub | yea he's a fucking retard |
| 20:32.04 | Shadowed | well he has to be |
| 20:32.14 | Shadowed | because he decided to put the file on WoWMatrix |
| 20:32.35 | tekkub | I'm sure he thinks that will get him more users |
| 20:32.44 | Shadowed | maybe |
| 20:32.51 | tekkub | not sure what you gain from more users, beside ego stroking |
| 20:32.59 | Shadowed | well he only has 1k-2k downloads so! |
| 20:33.04 | Shadowed | maybe he needs it |
| 20:33.05 | tekkub | yea :) |
| 20:33.06 | AckisWork | lol tekkub: Does not work with teksLoot. |
| 20:33.10 | alestane | It might...but they won't be quality, appreciative or supportive users. |
| 20:33.17 | TecnoBrat | tekkub, btw, <3 you for updating TourGuide |
| 20:33.22 | tekkub | AckisWork: uh context? |
| 20:33.33 | BinaryMuse | Ooo I've been meaning to try out TourGuide |
| 20:33.37 | NeoTron | tekkub: what is the role of teksLoot? |
| 20:33.55 | NeoTron | asking because I seem to have issues getting proper loot event / master loot event for my loot-related addons |
| 20:33.57 | tekkub | loot roll frames |
| 20:33.58 | AckisWork | tekkub: his addon for autoloot or smething |
| 20:34.06 | tekkub | oh, his shit, fuck him |
| 20:34.19 | tekkub | if he did it right, it would |
| 20:34.22 | NeoTron | ah possibly different then |
| 20:34.23 | tekkub | I doubt he did it right |
| 20:34.26 | TecnoBrat | BinaryMuse, make sure you get TomTom or Cartographer, cause it works really well with the coordinate arrow :) |
| 20:35.27 | AckisWork | TecnoBrat: tomtom is broked isn't it? (astrolabe not working or something?) |
| 20:35.31 | NeoTron | on flame leviathan I didn't get the XLoot loot window, nor did my master loot menu work or MagicDKP Bidder's master loot stuff |
| 20:35.39 | jnwhiteh | AckisWork: ... update |
| 20:35.42 | jnwhiteh | its been fixed for a week |
| 20:35.47 | Shadowed | jnwhiteh: You sure? :p |
| 20:35.49 | jnwhiteh | there was a beta version out fixing the issues as of a weel ago |
| 20:35.50 | TecnoBrat | AckisWork, I don't know ... maybe. I don't use it :) |
| 20:35.52 | jnwhiteh | yes, 100% positive. |
| 20:35.53 | Shadowed | I downloaded TomTom yesterday and it wasn't working |
| 20:35.56 | jnwhiteh | then you did it wrong |
| 20:36.04 | jnwhiteh | there was a beta posted a week ago fixing the issues |
| 20:36.07 | AckisWork | jnwhiteh: I had last night :P notice I didn't bug you about it though :P |
| 20:36.11 | Shadowed | odd |
| 20:36.12 | jnwhiteh | and it was pushed as a release about 12 hours ago |
| 20:36.22 | jnwhiteh | just clicking "download" doesn't help |
| 20:36.28 | jnwhiteh | reading the comments and posts I made would haev =) |
| 20:36.32 | jnwhiteh | I was in Italy on holiday |
| 20:36.34 | jnwhiteh | so I could not get on to post |
| 20:36.41 | jnwhiteh | TomTom works just fine |
| 20:36.59 | Shadowed | oh that must be why if it was about 12 hours ago |
| 20:37.02 | AckisWork | I don't think tomtom works with the wrath beta... |
| 20:37.08 | AckisWork | *hides* |
| 20:37.12 | jnwhiteh | >, |
| 20:37.13 | jnwhiteh | >< |
| 20:37.14 | AckisWork | and yah 12 hours ago = pre-ackis update |
| 20:37.20 | Shirik | whee |
| 20:37.25 | Shirik | I got an easter basket ^_^ |
| 20:37.35 | Lunessa | tekkub: Greedbeacon errors for me any time there's a loot roll - it still does what it should, but I think it's missing a parameter or something. |
| 20:37.51 | durcyn | Lunessa: update, man. |
| 20:38.04 | tekkub | uh, I thought I pushed out a fix for that one a month ago with the others |
| 20:38.06 | Lunessa | I did - yesterday. I didn't see a new version. :P |
| 20:38.16 | tekkub | Cairenn|afk: update the guide, TourGuide has a new version |
| 20:38.27 | durcyn | i see a chat filter fix on, uh, march 27th |
| 20:38.28 | Lunessa | Perhaps I missed it. |
| 20:38.30 | Cairenn|afk | both sites? |
| 20:38.40 | Cairenn|afk | tekkub: ^^ |
| 20:38.47 | durcyn | github.com/tekkub/greedbeacon |
| 20:38.49 | tekkub | should be if curseforge works right |
| 20:38.53 | tekkub | Lunessa: http://github.com/tekkub/greedbeacon/commits/master |
| 20:38.58 | tekkub | I never tagged it >< |
| 20:39.03 | tekkub | but it is in master! |
| 20:39.04 | Lunessa | >< |
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| 20:39.18 | Lunessa | I got it off WoWI not your git repository. |
| 20:39.30 | tekkub | yes |
| 20:39.31 | Cairenn|afk | tekkub: updated, thanks |
| 20:39.32 | Lunessa | /wrists. |
| 20:39.53 | TecnoBrat | Does anyone know if blizzard changed the way AcceptGroup() works? |
| 20:39.56 | tekkub | Lunessa: grab it there for now, I will make a release tonight if things die down |
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| 20:40.25 | Lunessa | Thanks. It is very very handy. Like most of your stuff. I owe you several beverages of your choice. |
| 20:40.34 | tekkub | ^^ |
| 20:40.34 | TecnoBrat | nm, I think wowwiki just answered my question |
| 20:40.39 | TecnoBrat | "As of 3.1 calling StaticPopup_Hide("PARTY_INVITE") too quickly after AcceptGroup() appears to interfere with the actual accepting." |
| 20:41.47 | AckisWork | http://paste.wowace.com/486/ <-- why did that code work pre-3.1? |
| 20:41.54 | AckisWork | did blizzard have info as a global? |
| 20:42.13 | tekkub | TecnoBrat: uh, on sec, seeing what changed |
| 20:42.32 | jnwhiteh | AckisWork: it was a leaked global in a few places. |
| 20:42.42 | Shadowed | yea that did it clad |
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| 20:43.13 | AckisWork | jnwhiteh: *nod* that's what I figured, just wanted to make sure |
| 20:43.19 | TecnoBrat | tekkub, yea, the problem is "/script AcceptGroup(); StaticPopup_Hide("PARTY_INVITE");" actually ends up denying the invite |
| 20:43.22 | Legorol | NeoTron: what can interrupt them? |
| 20:43.29 | Legorol | (the chain lightnings |
| 20:44.00 | Legorol | Mind Freeze doesn't seem to work |
| 20:44.21 | Shirik | TecnoBrat: Why do you have to hide? |
| 20:44.32 | kd3 | ya. really pissing me off that I had to disable automaton for that |
| 20:44.32 | Shirik | Doesn't AcceptGroup() hide the popup? |
| 20:44.34 | pnorman | new VOA? Don't interrupt CL, stay spread out |
| 20:44.37 | TecnoBrat | nope :( |
| 20:44.40 | TecnoBrat | it doesn't |
| 20:44.51 | TecnoBrat | kd3, indeedly |
| 20:44.56 | Shirik | Well then why not wait for PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED or RRU to hide it? |
| 20:44.58 | Lunessa | Legorol: Something like Earth or Wind Shock, or Counterspell perhaps? |
| 20:45.24 | NeoTron | I had no problem interrupting as a DK |
| 20:45.31 | Shirik | I guess that's kinda ugly |
| 20:45.55 | TecnoBrat | Shirik, yea, thats a solution .. but yea, its not really nice |
| 20:46.13 | tekkub | TecnoBrat: all I see is... |
| 20:46.19 | tekkub | if ( event == "PARTY_INVITE_CANCEL" ) then |
| 20:46.19 | tekkub | StaticPopup_Hide("PARTY_INVITE"); |
| 20:46.21 | TecnoBrat | but I guess it could just be a global thing all of the time anyways, since I doubt you want it hanging around when you are in a group |
| 20:46.32 | tekkub | if you don't force the hide does it hide anyway? |
| 20:46.53 | TecnoBrat | tekkub, tbh, I haven't tested in 3.1, I know in 3.0 it definitely didn't hide |
| 20:47.05 | tekkub | yea I know it didn't then either |
| 20:47.12 | tekkub | the dialogs suck |
| 20:47.41 | tekkub | the dialog's click handler also has self.inviteAccepted = 1; |
| 20:47.56 | tekkub | maybe if you set that after AcceptGroup and before you hide? |
| 20:48.00 | Fisker- | http://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/chart.JPG <-fuck yeah |
| 20:48.13 | tekkub | I think it hides the dialog after the accept function is called |
| 20:48.39 | tekkub | Fisker-: I only load FF when I need flash |
| 20:48.51 | tekkub | and honestly, I just load safari on the mac for flash now |
| 20:49.37 | durcyn | oh, good job, microsoft. "to enter your product key, click the back button." the only button on the dialog is 'Next'. |
| 20:49.47 | TecnoBrat | Fisker-, the more important statistic would be "avg amount of time a vulnerability existed in the latest version of a browser" |
| 20:50.00 | tekkub | Cairenn|afk: one other thing for the guide |
| 20:50.12 | tekkub | I moved shit to just the root path on my site |
| 20:50.25 | tekkub | tekkub.net/addons is a 404 that directs people to / |
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| 20:53.09 | AckisWork | so I spent about 30 minutes last night playing with my foam sword |
| 20:54.42 | Shirik | lol, this is so bad |
| 20:54.49 | Shirik | my Blackberry is stuck in safe mode T_T |
| 20:54.57 | End | Shirik: it's safe! |
| 20:55.01 | AckisWork | oh blackberry? what's your pin?!?!? |
| 20:55.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Sounds like a windows 98 machine to me |
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| 20:55.14 | BinaryMuse | Hehe |
| 20:55.18 | Shirik | sorry AckisWork, pin? |
| 20:55.32 | AckisWork | Shirik: for blackberry messenger |
| 20:55.50 | Shirik | oh I don't usually use that, but I guess I could |
| 20:55.58 | Shirik | it's not device-specific though is it? It's number specific? |
| 20:56.10 | AckisWork | not sure tbh |
| 20:56.10 | Shirik | oh, my desktop manager says my pin |
| 20:56.10 | Cairenn|afk | tekkub: so just .tekkub.net/ ? |
| 20:56.18 | Shirik | Well I will be replacing it tomorrow so :) |
| 20:56.28 | AckisWork | aww I wanted to play :( |
| 20:57.06 | Shirik | we can still play! |
| 20:57.15 | Shirik | but my back button doesn't work :( |
| 20:57.37 | ScytheBlade1 | sweet, new medication... only $24/pill! |
| 20:57.51 | foxlit | this wrath gate cinematic is so awesome... except for it's now showing a black screen :/ |
| 20:58.11 | kd3 | rofl |
| 20:58.23 | kd3 | "Geirrvif yells: ALL HAIL Greater Fire Elemental, CHAMPION OF VALHALAS!" |
| 20:58.26 | Antiarc | how do I turn off Blizzard's "hold alt to swap gear" function? |
| 20:58.49 | BinaryMuse | kd3: It's even better when it says "ALL HAIL Searing Totem VI" |
| 20:58.56 | tekkub | Cairenn|afk: yes |
| 20:59.05 | Cairenn|afk | tekkub: fixed |
| 20:59.09 | Cairenn|afk | or at least, it should be |
| 20:59.15 | tekkub | k ^^ |
| 20:59.24 | tekkub | I'll put a JS redirect on the 404 |
| 20:59.37 | Shirik | wtf |
| 20:59.38 | tekkub | and people are bitching about the "prafanity" |
| 20:59.39 | Shirik | upgrading software |
| 20:59.45 | Shirik | my only options are "remove" and "downgrade" |
| 20:59.46 | Shirik | no "keep" |
| 20:59.47 | Arrowmaster | put a 301 redirect |
| 20:59.54 | tekkub | obviously they didn't even read the fucking page |
| 21:00.00 | tekkub | Arrowmaster: can't :P |
| 21:00.06 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: 301? |
| 21:00.08 | Arrowmaster | bad host |
| 21:00.09 | tekkub | or I would have |
| 21:00.18 | tekkub | nope, great host |
| 21:00.20 | tekkub | ^^ |
| 21:00.22 | Cairenn|afk | tekkub: yes, it is fixed (just confirmed it did accept the change) - only the one addon on the guide, right? |
| 21:00.22 | Arrowmaster | AckisWork: HTTP 301, location moved permently |
| 21:00.43 | Shirik | permently |
| 21:00.47 | tekkub | Cairenn|afk: just TG as far as I know |
| 21:00.51 | tekkub | and LDB but... |
| 21:00.52 | tekkub | yea |
| 21:00.53 | End | permly |
| 21:00.56 | Cairenn|afk | loverly, thank you |
| 21:01.24 | Cairenn|afk | tekkub: http://wiki.github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1 is the link I have for the LDB homepage |
| 21:01.40 | Cairenn|afk | was the best one I could figure out |
| 21:01.50 | Cairenn|afk | if you want something different, just lemme know :) |
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| 21:03.10 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn|afk: if you want you can mention that TrainWhistle works with 3.1 (i havent actually tested but theres no way it broke) |
| 21:03.11 | tekkub | yea that's fine, or your own category but that defeats the point I guess |
| 21:03.28 | Trela | LDB scares me. *Hides under blankets.* |
| 21:03.48 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: it does, fwiw |
| 21:03.58 | Arrowmaster | yay |
| 21:03.59 | Cairenn|afk | Arrowmaster: it's not on the guide .... |
| 21:04.15 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: gremoved two people for using trains last night =P |
| 21:04.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: she's saying that you aren't good enough |
| 21:04.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: =] |
| 21:04.24 | Cairenn|afk | :p |
| 21:04.30 | Arrowmaster | durcyn: win |
| 21:04.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Way too easy |
| 21:05.50 | Cairenn|afk | I'm saying that when I took the top 150 downloaded and top 150 favourites/rating from curse, wowi and wowui.incgamers, merged them all into one big pile and then cut it down to the top 75 over all ... it wasn't on there :p |
| 21:06.11 | Arrowmaster | well it should be |
| 21:06.20 | End | lol |
| 21:06.40 | End | I wondered what the criteria for the list was |
| 21:06.44 | End | I guess top 75 makes sense |
| 21:06.49 | End | and should have been obvious :P |
| 21:06.55 | Cairenn|afk | Arrowmaster: most likely, since it's one of yours - I think you should go rag on all those assholes that aren't downloading it/marking it as a favourtie |
| 21:07.17 | Cairenn|afk | but yes, that's what I do every time |
| 21:07.18 | Arrowmaster | nah i dont care about favourites |
| 21:07.43 | Cairenn|afk | I pull the top X from each of the three sites, then come up with the overall top Y |
| 21:07.54 | Arrowmaster | but more downloads gets me more amazon gift cards in the future |
| 21:08.03 | Cairenn|afk | about the best I can figure out to do it |
| 21:08.04 | Arrowmaster | and farscape dvds are like $100 per season |
| 21:08.20 | Cairenn|afk | probably not completely accurate, but ... |
| 21:09.29 | Cairenn|afk | (as in, probably not a completely accurate determination of what the top Y really are ... ) |
| 21:11.15 | Trela | Arrowmaster: How do downloads get you gift cards? :O |
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| 21:11.40 | NeoTron | speaking of trains, anyone know where you get the train destroying robot? |
| 21:11.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Dark_Elf (i=Dark_Elf@ip47.net195.mw.net) |
| 21:12.08 | durcyn | from the toy shop in dalaran |
| 21:12.13 | Arrowmaster | Trela: curse is launching the rewards program soon |
| 21:12.18 | Trela | OH! |
| 21:12.25 | kd3 | neo; toy vendor in dalaran? |
| 21:12.39 | foxlit | is that soon(tm)? |
| 21:12.49 | Arrowmaster | they have a date set |
| 21:13.08 | nicoli_s | we do? |
| 21:13.28 | nicoli_s | no, no we dont |
| 21:13.40 | Trela | nicoli_s: Soon is the date. |
| 21:13.50 | nicoli_s | i wish i knew how to do the tm symbol in irc |
| 21:14.16 | Arrowmaster | if you are using mIRC you cant |
| 21:14.27 | Trela | Soon™ |
| 21:14.32 | Arrowmaster | its bugged |
| 21:14.33 | kd3 | ™ |
| 21:15.12 | Trela | You can with mIRC, but you have to set Windows to a foreign language that is in Unicode, reboot, restart mIRC, and hope it works. |
| 21:15.14 | Shirik | ™ |
| 21:15.18 | Shirik | works for me |
| 21:15.24 | foxlit | gah, this regen change is being annoying. |
| 21:15.29 | Arrowmaster | i see a white box |
| 21:15.36 | foxlit | I might actually have to carry water *shock horror* |
| 21:15.39 | durcyn | foxlit: would you say it's enough to drive you to drink |
| 21:15.43 | durcyn | i'll be here all night, try the veal |
| 21:15.59 | Kraftman | lol |
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| 21:16.18 | Arrowmaster | nicoli_s: Kaelten told me the date but i forget which month it was |
| 21:16.29 | *** join/#wowuidev Tem (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 21:16.29 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Tem] by ChanServ |
| 21:17.47 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: ? |
| 21:18.02 | Arrowmaster | for premium |
| 21:18.57 | TecnoBrat | tekkub, can't make a index.php file in the addons dir that does <? header('Location: /'); ?> ? |
| 21:19.32 | TecnoBrat | I know, I'm slow :P |
| 21:19.50 | Kaelten | our goal is to launch this month |
| 21:19.56 | tekkub | I don't know php |
| 21:19.58 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: it's april |
| 21:20.00 | AckisWork | 12 days from now |
| 21:20.02 | tekkub | and the host is static files |
| 21:20.06 | AckisWork | sings the 12 days of april |
| 21:20.09 | Arrowmaster | april 29th then |
| 21:20.13 | Kaelten | give or take |
| 21:20.22 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: 27th |
| 21:20.39 | Arrowmaster | whatever |
| 21:20.45 | Arrowmaster | i have the memory of a goldfish sometimes |
| 21:20.53 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: are you a highschool teenie bopper? |
| 21:21.01 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 21:21.01 | Lunessa | http://champions-online.com/ - I signed up for the beta. |
| 21:21.19 | Lunessa | All the while, chanting "Please don't suck. Please don't suck." |
| 21:21.25 | Trela | Arrowmaster: What about a busty blond stereotypical cheerleader? |
| 21:21.40 | Arrowmaster | i wish |
| 21:22.02 | KarlKFI | they don't need to remember, they can just repeat it next friday night |
| 21:22.15 | KarlKFI | ~lart KarlKFI |
| 21:22.15 | purl | send killer squirrels to attack KarlKFI |
| 21:22.54 | Arrowmaster | CIFS is so slow..... |
| 21:22.57 | KarlKFI | HA lucky me I have the solution to killer squirrels! http://www.katu.com/outdoors/news/42963927.html |
| 21:25.07 | Arrowmaster | seriously, CIFS is fucking slow |
| 21:25.17 | Arrowmaster | not going higher than 20 Mbit |
| 21:25.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I've pushed ~200mbit with it before |
| 21:25.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually probably more, before the HDs kicked in writing |
| 21:26.17 | Arrowmaster | doing this over 54Mbit wireless |
| 21:26.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Well there is your problem |
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| 21:26.53 | Arrowmaster | i can hit about 40Mbit to my old slow laptop running linux and Samba over 100Mbit ethernet |
| 21:27.13 | Dagmar | Something's gone off the rails there |
| 21:27.46 | Dagmar | Unless a machine's hideously underpowered, you're entirely right. Samba (even with CIFS involved) should be able to saturate 10bT and 100bT pipes |
| 21:27.50 | Arrowmaster | super slow now |
| 21:28.03 | TecnoBrat | 40/100 = 40%, 20/54 = 37%, seems similar! :P |
| 21:28.04 | Arrowmaster | less than 5Mbit |
| 21:28.38 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: the linux laptop is a 650Mhz P3 |
| 21:29.04 | BinaryMuse | HA! |
| 21:29.06 | BinaryMuse | "Parks officials said ground squirrels have been a minor problem for years, but their population is, well, exploding." |
| 21:29.07 | Dagmar | Is that the server or the client in this case? |
| 21:29.30 | Arrowmaster | i was writting to it |
| 21:29.45 | Dagmar | I suppose it'll come down to how fast you can write to the disk then |
| 21:29.59 | Dagmar | Laptop drives aren't great in that respect, but they should be a bit faster than that I think |
| 21:30.07 | ZorbaTHut | exploding squirrels sound dangerous |
| 21:30.24 | Arrowmaster | im currently writting to a Core Due laptop, again over wireless |
| 21:30.27 | Dagmar | ZorbaTHut: It's okay. They're being exploded underground where no one has to see "miscellanous squirrel parts" everywhere |
| 21:30.55 | KarlKFI | Humane to humans then |
| 21:31.29 | ZorbaTHut | Please bring me six Pristine Squirrel Shards. In return, I'll give you this terrible weapon that you'll vendor immediately. |
| 21:31.36 | Arrowmaster | fuck |
| 21:31.43 | Arrowmaster | somebody used the microwave |
| 21:31.47 | BinaryMuse | ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXsieVOTbm0 I want one |
| 21:31.54 | tekkub | they weren't actually exploding |
| 21:31.55 | Arrowmaster | 0Mbit |
| 21:32.04 | ScytheBlade1 | blame your wirless, not the protocol |
| 21:32.13 | tekkub | problem is people don't know the difference between and exploding squirrel and an imploding one |
| 21:32.22 | KarlKFI | what're you using.... LAN over electrical cables? |
| 21:32.52 | ZorbaTHut | black hole squirrel, won't you come, and wash away the rain |
| 21:32.53 | Arrowmaster | microwaves kill 2.4 Ghz signals |
| 21:33.21 | KarlKFI | lol zorba |
| 21:33.27 | Shirik | KarlKFI: As opposed to LAN over non-electrical cables? |
| 21:33.36 | KarlKFI | yes shirik |
| 21:34.11 | *** join/#wowuidev msou| (i=msoul@meridian.sosdg.org) |
| 21:35.10 | msou| | after we completed the dungeon I everyone just sees the other not moving all did quit wow and now I cannot even get back to my char |
| 21:35.21 | msou| | anyone else have had the problem before |
| 21:35.31 | *** join/#wowuidev cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 21:35.36 | BinaryMuse | If the server goes down |
| 21:35.54 | msou| | No it isn't, not according to blizzard's support site |
| 21:36.06 | Arrowmaster | ok moved laptop into this room, and unplugged my 360 so now i have an ethernet cable to use |
| 21:36.26 | BinaryMuse | Realm server and world servers are different. The realm can be up, but a certain area, like Northrend, down. |
| 21:36.51 | msou| | wasn't in northrend but I get your point |
| 21:37.20 | AckisWork | so that ptr only pet, did you get that in live? |
| 21:38.17 | msou| | my screen was freezing I cannot even resize the screen had to keep pushing the power button to turn my mac off/on again |
| 21:39.02 | Arrowmaster | hot damn |
| 21:39.12 | Arrowmaster | i peaked at 71Mbit |
| 21:39.29 | Lunessa | And now... for something totally light-hearted, but still srs bsns: http://bacontoday.com/ba-k-47-the-gun-made-of-bacon/ |
| 21:39.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraft (n=kraftman@89-168-220-33.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 21:40.35 | BinaryMuse | O.o |
| 21:43.08 | BinaryMuse | From the same web site: http://www.thisisfreakingridiculous.com/tifr/2009/4/15/the-mitchell-and-webb-situation.html Cracked me up quite a bit. :) |
| 21:44.35 | Kraft | thats numberwang! |
| 21:44.54 | Lunessa | And this .. THIS IS PURE AWESOME - http://www.popsci.com/bacon |
| 21:45.11 | BinaryMuse | You like backon quite a bit huh |
| 21:45.17 | BinaryMuse | backon? wtf is backon |
| 21:45.36 | Lunessa | Bacon is love. |
| 21:47.01 | msou| | does it take long if a certain area down? |
| 21:48.13 | *** join/#wowuidev cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 21:48.43 | BinaryMuse | Last night it was as short as 5-10 minutes |
| 21:48.57 | BinaryMuse | Lunessa: Some more bacon for ya. http://www.thisisfreakingridiculous.com/tifr/2009/4/10/tactical-bacon.html |
| 21:51.20 | mikma | tekkub: ^-- see the link |
| 21:51.46 | tekkub | lol |
| 21:53.00 | geargrind | mmm ... oyster... http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/download/file.php?avatar=54891_1239461030.jpg (arguably NSFW, but not really, but maybe ... it's very confusing) |
| 21:53.05 | foxlit | request: make wowi throw 503 instead of 500 |
| 21:53.19 | Nuckin | why 503? |
| 21:53.29 | Nuckin | i dont even remember that code |
| 21:53.30 | foxlit | Because it's a capacity issue |
| 21:53.57 | Nuckin | it would probably require a server service restart |
| 21:56.08 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIdBP0r1nnw |
| 21:56.37 | BinaryMuse | rofl |
| 21:58.49 | cbreak | *grumble*damnserverinstability*grumble* |
| 21:59.18 | cbreak | a reset after the first boss, in the middle of looting :( |
| 21:59.27 | nicoli_s | in ulduar? |
| 22:00.10 | VonhintenHOME` | Divinity or Santity of Battle? |
| 22:00.41 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (n=muffins@c-71-197-12-179.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 22:00.55 | cbreak | yes in ulduar |
| 22:00.59 | cbreak | some big tank like thing |
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| 22:01.30 | cbreak | very weird, we just drove our vehicles to him and killed him. without even making a proper strategy |
| 22:02.33 | End | 10 or 25man? |
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| 22:06.36 | kd3 | whee, maly enrages in 10s and we've been stuck for 5 minutes now |
| 22:06.47 | kd3 | yay instance servers breaking |
| 22:06.54 | kd3 | and there it goes, finally, a d/c |
| 22:07.10 | Nuckin | lol |
| 22:09.12 | kd3 | ouch. got hearthed |
| 22:09.51 | Nuckin | anyone know if SCT has been updated yet? |
| 22:11.20 | BinaryMuse | Hmm... I've been using an old(er) version (ie, before 3.1) |
| 22:11.25 | *** join/#wowuidev Olison_ (i=olison@fukdruidsgrr.org) |
| 22:11.43 | Nuckin | BinaryMuse: does it throw any errors? I've been afraid to turn mine on lol |
| 22:11.52 | BinaryMuse | Afraid? LOL |
| 22:11.58 | BinaryMuse | No, I've not noticed anything out of the ordinary. |
| 22:12.29 | Nuckin | BinaryMuse: I'll try it, thanks =P |
| 22:12.56 | BinaryMuse | Last update on WoWInterface was November 2008 |
| 22:13.13 | Nuckin | same on wow.curse.com |
| 22:13.16 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16409621711&pageNo=19#375 |
| 22:13.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't know if I've ever seen someone more stupid |
| 22:14.20 | BinaryMuse | Thanks for reminding me why I don't read the official forums :P |
| 22:14.29 | Nuckin | ScytheBlade1: obviously not an addon developer lol |
| 22:14.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Obviously pants on head retarded |
| 22:15.15 | Nuckin | ScytheBlade1: lol |
| 22:15.33 | Syzgyn_ | This is very weird |
| 22:23.43 | AckisWork | ScytheBlade1: look in the mirror |
| 22:28.12 | Legorol | guys, has anyone heard reports about talent assignment being broken? |
| 22:28.18 | End | MANAMAMA! |
| 22:28.22 | Legorol | several people (including myself) have no experienced not being able to spend 71 points |
| 22:28.33 | Shirik | Legorol: I saw it in the GM notes when I logged in |
| 22:28.38 | Shirik | but I encountered no problem |
| 22:28.38 | Legorol | GM notes? |
| 22:28.42 | Shirik | like the motd |
| 22:28.43 | Shirik | server |
| 22:28.55 | Shirik | I call them GM notes, whatever you want to call them |
| 22:29.25 | End | 16:26 Issues such as hidden Talent Points have been identified |
| 22:29.25 | End | 16:26 and resetting your User Interface will usually |
| 22:29.25 | End | 16:26 resolve these situations. Please refer to our |
| 22:29.43 | End | 16:26 CS Forums for more support information.uh oh my connection died |
| 22:29.54 | BinaryMuse | Strange ending to the server MOTD |
| 22:29.59 | Thunder_Child | anyone know what the second easist epic lying mount to get is? |
| 22:30.05 | Thunder_Child | flying* |
| 22:30.15 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:30.17 | End | sorry |
| 22:30.17 | Dagmar | Tailoring flying carpet |
| 22:30.17 | End | :P |
| 22:30.21 | End | I pasted it |
| 22:30.27 | Thunder_Child | is #1 Dagmar |
| 22:30.31 | End | I'm running through screen |
| 22:30.32 | Thunder_Child | thats why i said second |
| 22:30.33 | Legorol | End: resetting the UI did not fix it for me |
| 22:30.39 | Nuckin | Thunder_Child: the second one you buy from the vendor? |
| 22:30.39 | Legorol | that was the first thing i tried |
| 22:30.41 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Buying from vendors? |
| 22:30.42 | End | Legorol: just repeating what blizz says! |
| 22:30.49 | Dagmar | Leveling a trade skill to 400 is harder than making 5kg |
| 22:30.53 | Thunder_Child | meh, ok thanks |
| 22:30.55 | End | also, fuck comcast I think |
| 22:31.00 | Dagmar | Money just piles up if you let it. |
| 22:31.08 | End | I keep getting massive lag spikes |
| 22:31.12 | Nuckin | Shirik: i said it first! lol |
| 22:32.17 | End | hm |
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| 22:36.38 | Syzgyn | ffs |
| 22:40.32 | Lunessa | sighs |
| 22:40.51 | Lunessa | I guess today I'll spend debugging YATA. :( |
| 22:41.13 | zenzelezz | YATA? |
| 22:41.50 | Lunessa | "Yet Another Totem AddOn" - I love it, but it doesn't like dual spec. |
| 22:41.51 | Shirik | yatta! yatta! kimichi gaizama |
| 22:42.27 | pnorman | I still use GotWood, but the duration on the totems broke last update |
| 22:42.49 | Legorol | How do you remotely queue to a BG? |
| 22:42.57 | pnorman | Open up the PVP pane |
| 22:42.59 | Legorol | nvm, found it |
| 22:43.08 | Legorol | yah should've thought of that before, lol |
| 22:43.08 | Lunessa | I *love* the simple UI for managing totems. It works just fine in my primary spec, but change specs... and BOOM. No worky. |
| 22:43.11 | Legorol | i spent 10 mintues lookig |
| 22:43.31 | mikma | cooooooool! you can now use mount to run through Winterspring -> Moonglade -> Felwood -tunnel! |
| 22:43.39 | BinaryMuse | !! |
| 22:43.47 | BinaryMuse | Second best feature this patch |
| 22:43.58 | Legorol | btw, has anyone else found that the minimum lvel requirement on JC daily quest has gone up? |
| 22:44.04 | Legorol | i can't take it anymore on my L74 |
| 22:47.34 | Thunder_Child | iirc they took out the TLPD with 3.1 right? |
| 22:49.27 | Shirik | top level patch domain? |
| 22:51.56 | durcyn | i'm gonna go with time lost proto drake |
| 22:52.07 | durcyn | and that acronym makes me want to choke you. |
| 22:52.16 | Thunder_Child | Time-Lost Proto-Drake |
| 22:52.17 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 22:52.56 | Dagmar | How will we know we're dealing with Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons unless they're on that tho |
| 22:53.52 | Legorol | Thunder_Child: what about those people who got it already? |
| 22:54.07 | Thunder_Child | Legorol, they keep it |
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| 22:54.20 | Thunder_Child | i mean i think they took it out to make it "rare" |
| 22:54.29 | Legorol | uh |
| 22:54.32 | Legorol | as if it wasn't rare already |
| 22:54.33 | Tewan | Is WoWInterface having issues or is it just me? |
| 22:54.34 | *** join/#wowuidev dustice (n=dustin@resnet-129-116-62-228.dorm.utexas.edu) |
| 22:54.38 | mikma | just you |
| 22:54.40 | Thunder_Child | i was just trying to confirm |
| 22:54.51 | ScytheBlade1 | having issues |
| 22:54.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Something to do with a major patch? |
| 22:54.58 | Legorol | how would they make it rarer? |
| 22:55.07 | mikma | scytheblade1: you think?!? |
| 22:55.14 | ScytheBlade1 | mikma: dunno! Just guessing! |
| 22:55.26 | BinaryMuse | There was a patch? |
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| 22:55.30 | Thunder_Child | Legorol, not let anyone get it any more |
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| 22:55.48 | Legorol | Thunder_Child: that'd suck |
| 22:56.01 | Aznamir | hi all |
| 22:56.04 | foxlit | SB1: meh, it survived yesterday but shattered today? |
| 22:56.07 | Legorol | are you sure you aren't confusing it with the meta-achi proto-drakes? |
| 22:56.16 | Legorol | black and plagued |
| 22:56.28 | Thunder_Child | thats why i wanted confirmation |
| 22:56.36 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: WoW was down most all of yesterday |
| 22:56.40 | BinaryMuse | I have heard nothing about the removal of the TLPD |
| 22:56.41 | Legorol | they did take out the black and plagued |
| 22:57.58 | Legorol | god people are silly >.< |
| 22:58.04 | Legorol | "Halp, I can't see my own whispers!" |
| 22:58.10 | Legorol | go and nuke your addons, fool! |
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| 22:59.03 | BinaryMuse | They should have a little paper clip show up in the middle of typing the sentence. "It looks like you're complaining about a UI issue. Would you like help disabling your addons?" |
| 22:59.43 | Dagmar | s/disabling your addons/engaging in autoerotic asphyxia terminus/; |
| 23:00.08 | BinaryMuse | Hehe |
| 23:00.43 | End | sighs. |
| 23:00.51 | End | follows through with his threat to call comcast. |
| 23:00.55 | End | stupid lag spikes |
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| 23:01.28 | Dagmar | Do some traceroutes. |
| 23:01.36 | Dagmar | I'll bet that AT&T gateway is boning it up again |
| 23:03.14 | mikma | hahahahaha, fuck this |
| 23:03.21 | mikma | [02:01:49] Transfer Aborted: instance not found |
| 23:03.26 | mikma | thanks HS <3 |
| 23:03.36 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 23:03.41 | ScytheBlade1 | It blew your cooldown too |
| 23:03.48 | mikma | aye, it did |
| 23:03.53 | End | Dagmar: it's not WoW |
| 23:04.04 | Dagmar | End: That's kinda my poinyt |
| 23:04.16 | amro | anyone know API to undo PromoteToAssitant offhand? |
| 23:04.25 | tekkub | you should know on patch days to check that people are ONLINE in NR before you hearth |
| 23:04.28 | Dagmar | End: I've got stuff at home that I can (to put it simply) ping each hop along the route continuously |
| 23:04.33 | Nuckin | amro: check wowwiki |
| 23:04.35 | End | I don't go through AT&T to get to my linode |
| 23:04.41 | End | and my linode is lagging too |
| 23:04.45 | amro | Nuckin: hence why I said "offhand" :) |
| 23:04.47 | End | and so is hulu |
| 23:04.52 | End | I dunno who I go through for hulu |
| 23:04.52 | Dagmar | End: LAst week more than once there was a particular gateway just off Comcast's network in AT&T's yard that was adding a good 600ms latency |
| 23:05.08 | Dagmar | So traceroute to one of these places. |
| 23:05.09 | Nuckin | amro: touche lol |
| 23:05.14 | Dagmar | The thing tells you latency per hop. |
| 23:05.36 | BinaryMuse | DemoteAssistant(unit) |
| 23:05.49 | End | I'm not -touching- AT&T |
| 23:05.49 | mikma | tekkub: NR is up and healthy |
| 23:05.52 | End | in fact |
| 23:05.54 | Dagmar | If you see a bunch of asterisks popping up here and there, you should probably just ping the first hop out of your network on Comcasts and you'll find that the node is dropping packets like mad |
| 23:05.56 | mikma | and yet HS failed horribly |
| 23:06.09 | Dagmar | End: You seem to be obsessing about AT&T a bit |
| 23:06.10 | End | my linode goes like this: ..., comcast, comcast, comcast, theplanet, the planet ... |
| 23:06.13 | tekkub | or maybe it's just user error |
| 23:06.26 | mikma | how can that be a user error? it can't :I |
| 23:06.34 | mikma | now i need to travel to IF from Winterspring |
| 23:06.36 | mikma | oh joy |
| 23:06.37 | *** join/#wowuidev airtonix (n=airtonix@ppp203-122-216-37.lns12.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 23:06.39 | End | it's comcast |
| 23:06.45 | tekkub | sureit can |
| 23:06.50 | BinaryMuse | <3 Linode |
| 23:06.51 | tekkub | insert rectally |
| 23:06.58 | tekkub | squeeze for 8 seconds |
| 23:07.20 | End | in fact, that my linode is having issues, and that comcast is the only common hostname beside theplanet is a pretty good indicator... |
| 23:07.23 | End | HOWEVER: |
| 23:07.30 | End | I should test without my router |
| 23:07.36 | End | I tried reseting it, but not without it |
| 23:08.37 | *** join/#wowuidev JP_0033 (n=JP@adsl-072-148-128-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:08.39 | Dagmar | Hmm... If the hostname is broken you should call the registrar |
| 23:08.46 | airtonix | suggestions for masterlooter mods |
| 23:08.47 | Dagmar | They'll be pissed if they know a broken hostname is causign latency. |
| 23:08.53 | airtonix | xloot doesn work anymore |
| 23:09.01 | airtonix | xloot-master that is |
| 23:09.06 | JP_0033 | any1 unable to download the database for gatherer? |
| 23:09.26 | BinaryMuse | Not patient enough for @norganna, JP_0033? :) |
| 23:09.31 | BinaryMuse | #norganna * |
| 23:09.40 | JP_0033 | lol |
| 23:09.45 | JP_0033 | heh |
| 23:10.28 | End | Dagmar: I didn't bother doing a traceroute with WoW |
| 23:10.37 | End | it's my -entire- connection |
| 23:10.56 | Dagmar | Yes, but a traceroute will tell you whether or not it's worth bothering calling tech support |
| 23:11.06 | Dagmar | If the local headend is dropping packets, calling will do some good. |
| 23:11.26 | Dagmar | If it's one of Comcast's peering gateways to the internet causing all the latency/loss, you'll be wasting your time |
| 23:12.17 | BinaryMuse | So I have a question (one I'm sure you guys NEVER hear) -- I'm a programmer, and I'm interested in learning some WoW LUA. Do you know of a good resource that talks WoW/addon-specific topics? |
| 23:12.31 | krka | BinaryMuse: Lua is not an acronym. :-D |
| 23:12.38 | End | frowns |
| 23:12.41 | End | well it's not my router |
| 23:12.42 | BinaryMuse | Sorry :P Habit |
| 23:12.47 | Dagmar | ~book |
| 23:12.47 | purl | [~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook |
| 23:12.50 | Tewan | BinaryMuse: IIRC it's a bot. |
| 23:12.55 | Dagmar | Hmm... |
| 23:12.58 | Dagmar | ~lua |
| 23:12.58 | purl | somebody said lua was a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. Note: Lua is not an acronym. It is the Portuguese word for "moon". |
| 23:13.02 | mikma | LUA LUA LUA |
| 23:13.04 | mikma | is all good |
| 23:13.11 | Dagmar | *Somewhere* in that damn bot is a URL for the lua bok |
| 23:13.13 | End | I need to find out how to tell tracert to not do hostname look ups though :X |
| 23:13.19 | Dagmar | End: -n |
| 23:13.23 | End | thanks! |
| 23:13.24 | BinaryMuse | I do a lot of PHP, and it's an acronym in an acronym |
| 23:13.38 | BinaryMuse | ~noobie |
| 23:13.39 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, noobie is ElNooboStupido |
| 23:13.44 | BinaryMuse | Ah well |
| 23:13.45 | Dagmar | End: Doh wait.. -n on Windows |
| 23:13.50 | End | I started a traceroute mid lag, but it waited for my lag to go away |
| 23:13.53 | End | that's fine, this is windows |
| 23:14.00 | foxlit | ~wowprogramming |
| 23:14.00 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons ~ http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob ~ a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 23:14.00 | Dagmar | er -d! |
| 23:14.03 | Dagmar | I'm a little spaced right now |
| 23:14.03 | End | my linux box is internetless right now |
| 23:14.04 | End | oh |
| 23:14.05 | foxlit | is what I think you're looking for. |
| 23:14.06 | Dagmar | In the middle of eating |
| 23:14.09 | BinaryMuse | Oo thanks foxlit |
| 23:14.22 | foxlit | and by you I mean Dagmar. |
| 23:14.28 | Dagmar | The new antihistamines are trying are going to make me a cannibal if the pizza guy is late like that again |
| 23:14.35 | foxlit | Haven't scrolled back far enough to figure out what you wanted, BM :) |
| 23:14.53 | BinaryMuse | WoW Addon programming information :) |
| 23:15.07 | BinaryMuse | He was looking for me |
| 23:15.09 | Shirik | ~book |
| 23:15.10 | purl | [~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook |
| 23:15.10 | Dagmar | Says "may cause increased appetite" on the bottle. |
| 23:15.16 | Shirik | ? |
| 23:15.19 | Shirik | wtf kind of factoid is that |
| 23:15.39 | durcyn | i'm guessing it's a module, not a factoid |
| 23:15.42 | durcyn | ~factinfo book |
| 23:15.42 | purl | book -- created by tuxinator_linux <n=tuxinato@70-32-106-248.ontrca.adelphia.net> at Thu Jan 19 09:16:05 2006 (1182 days); last modified at Wed Mar 11 14:01:23 2009 by [TK]D-Fender!n=joe@216.191.106.163; it has been requested 228 times, last by Shirik, 32s ago. |
| 23:15.47 | durcyn | oh. |
| 23:16.29 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/teeth_porno.jpg |
| 23:16.41 | BinaryMuse | HA |
| 23:16.43 | Dagmar | Hmmm... why do I suspect that's NSFW? |
| 23:17.20 | Shirik | wtf mikma |
| 23:17.26 | mikma | hai shirik |
| 23:17.46 | Thunder_Child | hmm..why does it no longer say when someone joins/leaves a raid? |
| 23:18.09 | mikma | also, i flag my images as NSFW if they are |
| 23:18.16 | *** join/#wowuidev Diao (i=vschiu@adsl-76-254-40-18.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:18.19 | mikma | other flag is NSFS |
| 23:18.26 | Dagmar | s? |
| 23:18.30 | BinaryMuse | Not Safe for Sex? |
| 23:18.35 | mikma | ~nsfs |
| 23:18.36 | purl | well, nsfs is not safe for shirik |
| 23:18.40 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 23:18.43 | *** join/#wowuidev ckknight (n=ckknight@c-68-62-175-169.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 23:18.43 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 23:18.44 | BinaryMuse | Hahahaha |
| 23:20.26 | mikma | shirik: was that picture nsfs? :) |
| 23:20.53 | Dagmar | Only if he's got serious dental hygiene issues |
| 23:22.05 | End | well |
| 23:22.29 | End | I did a full reset of my cable modem...including the little reset thingy, and that might have fixed it |
| 23:22.42 | End | simpley unplugging it for 15 seconds wasn't enough |
| 23:27.23 | Thunder_Child | huh, the fishing sound doesnt trigger when wow doesnt have focus |
| 23:28.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Mr_Rabies (n=Mr_Rabie@adsl-066-156-082-132.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:30.51 | End | Thunder_Child: even with background noises on? |
| 23:30.52 | Shirik | ok |
| 23:30.55 | Shirik | one of my emails disappeared |
| 23:30.56 | Shirik | literally |
| 23:31.18 | Thunder_Child | End, that was unchecked, thanks |
| 23:31.25 | Shirik | I see it on my blackberry, but it's not on my web interface that I never touch |
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| 23:34.12 | *** join/#wowuidev Tem (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 23:34.13 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Tem] by ChanServ |
| 23:34.17 | AbsolutRayne | Supposing everyone has already seen the Wowmatrix issues thread on the forums? |
| 23:34.45 | Thunder_Child | http://fukung.net/v/7167/vennhappynopantsfuckingcold.jpg |
| 23:34.50 | |Jelly| | You mean all the QQ bears crying that they can't leech WoWI/Curse bandwidth? |
| 23:35.12 | AbsolutRayne | naw, this one http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16366357799&postId=164613646705&sid=1#13 |
| 23:35.20 | Dagmar | AbsolutRayne: It's like every special school in the nation turned their kids loose on the forum all in one place |
| 23:35.38 | Shirik | .... this is awesome |
| 23:35.41 | Shirik | Totally off-topic, but awesome |
| 23:35.55 | Shirik | This is the company I'm likely interning with this summer: http://www.kgw.com/video/video-index.html?nvid=351879 |
| 23:35.59 | AbsolutRayne | Dagmar: Theres a reason that bus is so short |
| 23:40.50 | Dagmar | It's just shocking the number of people who are willing to throw a tantrum about things they know not a *damn* thing about |
| 23:41.07 | kamdis | Rayne, the train wreck. AVERT YOUR EYES. |
| 23:41.22 | Dagmar | People saying they want to see Curse/WoWi's actual "costs", as if they're making it up |
| 23:41.43 | Dagmar | Do these f**kers thing hosting companies just run on sunshine and paperclips or what? |
| 23:42.04 | kamdis | Yes, Dagmar! |
| 23:42.13 | kamdis | bandwidth is free you know. lawl. |
| 23:42.39 | kamdis | they have nary a clue how much traffic those sites get |
| 23:42.49 | kamdis | even once kaelten posted some numbers |
| 23:42.54 | kamdis | meant nothing to them |
| 23:43.05 | AbsolutRayne | kamdis: But its so fun to watch! |
| 23:43.10 | Dagmar | This is more of that "you're mommy's special little snowflake" crap again |
| 23:43.22 | Dagmar | They've convinced that since they don't know a thing about it, that no one else possibly could |
| 23:43.27 | Dark_Elf | im actually surprised wowui hasnt joined wowi and curse, cause i figure wowmatrix is leaching wowui like crazy now |
| 23:43.57 | Thunder_Child | fail instance servers blizz....fail |
| 23:44.34 | AbsolutRayne | Someone make my a Glyph of Killing Spree |
| 23:44.36 | AbsolutRayne | right nao! |
| 23:44.36 | Dagmar | They probaly will |
| 23:44.45 | kamdis | haha |
| 23:44.56 | kamdis | only if you make me a glyph of howling blast, rayne |
| 23:45.00 | Dagmar | Give them a few more days to get taht call from their hosting provider telling them they're going to be looking at several hundred dollars in burst transfer fees |
| 23:45.01 | kamdis | or dancing rune weapon |
| 23:45.31 | VonhintenHOME` | Are these Repair costs here to stay? |
| 23:45.48 | Dagmar | Until they make a Wrenchmaster profession, probably |
| 23:46.10 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm not gonna be able to afford to repair pretty soon |
| 23:46.19 | Dagmar | So do a couple of dailies |
| 23:46.21 | VonhintenHOME` | 120g repairs for our tank... |
| 23:46.28 | VonhintenHOME` | that's fucking nuts |
| 23:46.30 | foxlit | No |
| 23:46.31 | Dagmar | Make him pay his own bills then |
| 23:46.38 | Dagmar | ...or get better healers |
| 23:46.39 | foxlit | That's welcome-to-normal-progression-raiding. |
| 23:46.48 | foxlit | aka "You'll learn." |
| 23:46.49 | AbsolutRayne | kamdis: I have it |
| 23:46.51 | AbsolutRayne | :P |
| 23:46.51 | Dagmar | Stuff like this is what easy dailies are for, man |
| 23:47.00 | foxlit | (also, guild bank funds) |
| 23:47.42 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, that's brilliant.. I've got raiders in my guild that can barely show up for our raids now... now they have to farm extra hours to repair |
| 23:48.10 | ajmitch | they should have always had to farm extra for repairs |
| 23:48.14 | AbsolutRayne | ^ |
| 23:48.21 | Dagmar | There's pretty much nothing new here. |
| 23:48.35 | Dagmar | It's not like it should be a suprise to anyone anyhow |
| 23:48.54 | Dagmar | The price to repair purple gear didn't go up overnight. |
| 23:48.56 | VonhintenHOME` | Nothing new? repair costs doubled with the patch for the same gear |
| 23:49.04 | Thunder_Child | http://fukung.net/v/14328/agencygetalong.jpg |
| 23:49.08 | Dagmar | So report that as a bug to the GMs and see what thhey have to say |
| 23:51.17 | Thunder_Child | >.< http://fukung.net/v/14317/over9000.jpg |
| 23:51.28 | Dagmar | Perhaps Blizz is telling folks if they want special recipes they can hang over everyone else's heads and gouge with, it's going to cost them to get it |
| 23:52.05 | End | hm |
| 23:52.13 | End | the VoA boss is really hard with lag :P |
| 23:52.14 | AbsolutRayne | brb |
| 23:52.29 | End | add enraged |
| 23:52.32 | End | lag |
| 23:52.37 | End | oh now he has 5 charges already |
| 23:54.10 | End | well, hm, I fixed comcast, but now WoW is failing |
| 23:54.13 | End | >:( |
| 23:54.29 | BinaryMuse | Have a good evening everyone. Pleasure to meet/chat with ya |
| 23:54.38 | Thunder_Child | it was? |
| 23:54.42 | End | for him |
| 23:54.43 | End | not for you |
| 23:54.44 | BinaryMuse | It was indeed |
| 23:54.47 | BinaryMuse | Haha |
| 23:55.03 | Thunder_Child | i got to get me some of thoes drugs as well |
| 23:55.37 | *** join/#wowuidev jennicide (i=jen@173-19-99-75.client.mchsi.com) |
| 23:55.58 | End | RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE |
| 23:55.59 | *** join/#wowuidev Ackis (n=asdf@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis) |
| 23:56.17 | Ackis | Shirik: HALP |
| 23:56.19 | *** join/#wowuidev Soulsbane (n=chatzill@174.32.26.128) |
| 23:56.25 | End | Ackis: nobody can halp you |
| 23:56.25 | Shirik | Ackis? |
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| 23:56.35 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 23:56.36 | Ackis | ultimate boot disc |
| 23:56.38 | Ackis | does not work |
| 23:57.21 | Lopeppeppy | Throw it away. Is not so ultimate. |
| 23:57.36 | End | ultimate frisbee is ultimate |
| 23:57.42 | End | and you through those away from you |
| 23:57.46 | End | throw* |
| 23:57.58 | jennicide | anyone here represent lightheaded? |
| 23:58.14 | ScytheBlade1 | If you need help with it, ask |
| 23:58.36 | Ackis | i want Shirik to read my mind and fix all the problems there |
| 23:58.44 | jennicide | just wondering when it will be updated |
| 23:58.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Ackis: I wouldn't let Shirik NEAR my mind |
| 23:59.08 | Ackis | ~dict jennicide |
| 23:59.13 | Ackis | :( |
| 23:59.22 | Arrowmaster | jennicide: jnwhiteh does |
| 23:59.50 | Arrowmaster | and for new quests they actually need comments on wowhead before youll get any info in lightheaded |
| 23:59.57 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
