| 00:00.35 | Kimmeh | So anyone know how to change the frame from within the lua? |
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| 00:01.27 | bleeter | I'm not sure, but I suspect it has to do with creating the frame in Lua to start with, and not XML |
| 00:01.44 | bleeter | actually I'm wrong, it's not that I'm not sure, it's that I really have no idea but there's a wild guess |
| 00:01.54 | Kimmeh | Yea but i didnt really do that so im looking for a work-around |
| 00:02.20 | nevcairiel | Kimmeh: you can just <framename>:SetWidth(42) and <framename>:SetHeight(42) |
| 00:02.29 | nevcairiel | obviously replace <framename> with the real name |
| 00:02.36 | Kimmeh | thanks, trying that right away! |
| 00:02.36 | nevcairiel | like MyFrame:SetWidth(30) |
| 00:02.47 | Kimmeh | Yea i understood :) |
| 00:02.48 | Kimmeh | tyty |
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| 00:04.14 | Kimmeh | nevcairiel omg worked like a charm! |
| 00:04.27 | Kimmeh | okioik i got another one |
| 00:04.40 | Maldivia | *smirk* |
| 00:04.45 | Lopeppeppy | ~nevcariel++ |
| 00:05.01 | nevcairiel | I bet thats why i don't get karam |
| 00:05.03 | nevcairiel | *karma |
| 00:05.08 | nevcairiel | people can't type my name |
| 00:05.12 | Kimmeh | So i got my threathlevel working but i want the guy with the addon to be on top of the list, how do i sort eq. 10players threat highest to lowest? |
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| 00:05.30 | Lopeppeppy | ~nevcairiel++ |
| 00:05.35 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 00:05.39 | Lopeppeppy | I did it! |
| 00:05.41 | Kimmeh | theres no ++ in my client |
| 00:05.47 | Lopeppeppy | ~karma nevcairiel |
| 00:05.47 | purl | nevcairiel has karma of 3 |
| 00:06.09 | Kimmeh | i just copied the name as its displayed :( |
| 00:06.24 | Shirik | uh |
| 00:06.26 | nevcairiel | yeah you typed it right, don't worry :) |
| 00:06.26 | Lopeppeppy | I was playing with a channel toy, Kimmeh, just ignore me. |
| 00:06.40 | Kimmeh | ;) |
| 00:06.42 | Lopeppeppy | I typed it wrongly, and he was poking me... as Shirik did. |
| 00:06.57 | Kimmeh | Using mibbit.com/chat so not really a standalone client |
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| 00:07.44 | Kimmeh | So I got my threathlevel working but i want the guy with the threat* to be on top of the list, how do i sort eq. 10players threat highest to lowest? |
| 00:07.57 | nevcairiel | Kimmeh: you'll have to use a table and a sort function. Easiest would be table.sort with a custom comparison function |
| 00:08.42 | Kimmeh | But from what ive managed to read it only supports 2 thingys to be compared |
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| 00:09.24 | Kimmeh | Im to used to .net where all this is done really easy :) |
| 00:10.35 | nevcairiel | Don't you only need to sort by threat value? It should be perfect for that |
| 00:11.09 | Kimmeh | well yea but can it compare 25 values and sort them in a new table? |
| 00:11.51 | nevcairiel | table.sort modifys its current table, if you need a new one you'll have to create a copy before |
| 00:11.58 | nevcairiel | but it can sort any size of table |
| 00:12.29 | Kimmeh | then lets get cracking, im reading on lua-users wiki about table.sort atm, brb |
| 00:12.38 | jnwhiteh | !api table.sort |
| 00:12.39 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'table.sort' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-table.sort |
| 00:12.57 | Kimmeh | :O cool |
| 00:13.07 | Kimmeh | !api for |
| 00:13.07 | lua_bot | Found 35 possible matches for 'for'. Please be more specific |
| 00:13.23 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 00:13.24 | theorb | !api IsSpellInRange |
| 00:13.24 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'IsSpellInRange' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsSpellInRange |
| 00:13.25 | Kimmeh | well that was to general i guess :P |
| 00:13.46 | nevcairiel | It matches wow and lua API, some commands are just too generic like that =) |
| 00:14.17 | Kimmeh | yea ;P well im kinda new to lua so i went with what i knew |
| 00:16.07 | Rabbitbu1ny | http://pastebin.com/m47e30848 |
| 00:16.38 | Kimmeh | hmm, the table.sort only compares 2 values and returns true if the first is less then the second |
| 00:16.40 | Tuller | hrm yes, I'm debating if I think popins for donations are evil or not |
| 00:17.10 | NeoTron | Kimmeh: which is what you need |
| 00:17.39 | NeoTron | table.sort(array, function(a, b) { return a.threat > b.threat }) |
| 00:18.00 | NeoTron | where array would have { { name=player, threat =100 }, {name = player2, threat=200} } |
| 00:18.03 | NeoTron | etc |
| 00:18.21 | Kimmeh | i want to sort 25 values in an array/table the first one beeing either higest or lowest |
| 00:18.32 | NeoTron | then do it |
| 00:18.44 | NeoTron | that's what it does |
| 00:19.01 | NeoTron | I honestly don't understand what you're trying to say |
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| 00:19.16 | nevcairiel | table.sort will sort a table. By default, it sorts it simply by value, but if you store sub-tabels in there, that doesnt make much sense, so you write a custom comparison function like NeoTron wrote there |
| 00:20.37 | Kimmeh | so if i have a table with values 2, 3, 1 table.sort will arrange them to 1, 2 ,3 without having to compare and so on? |
| 00:20.53 | NeoTron | yes |
| 00:21.06 | NeoTron | but in your case that wouldn't be very useful |
| 00:21.07 | Kimmeh | then this was easier then i first anticipated! |
| 00:21.13 | Kimmeh | no |
| 00:21.14 | NeoTron | you need a custom sort method |
| 00:21.32 | Kimmeh | well the player name my follow so |
| 00:21.46 | bleeter | well crud... looks like my AusCERT talk is off |
| 00:22.13 | NeoTron | you can also sort with multiple keys: table.sort(array, function(a, b) if a.threat == b.threat return a.name > b.name else return a.threat > b.threat end end) |
| 00:22.39 | NeoTron | ofc for threat it's highly unlikely (and irrelevant) that you'd have the same |
| 00:24.34 | NeoTron | one thing I miss in lua is sort function that can sort a second array based on the first array. imagine: |
| 00:24.54 | Kimmeh | Okay so now i need to put all the playernames in a table and their specific threatvalue in another, then when the threathvalues are sorted the playertable has to be sorted the same way |
| 00:25.03 | Kimmeh | ^.- |
| 00:25.31 | NeoTron | if you have a table { "Foo", "Bar", ...} |
| 00:26.02 | NeoTron | and a second table { Foo => threat, Bar => threat} you can do table.sort(names, function(a, b) return threat[a] > threat[b] end) |
| 00:26.29 | NeoTron | you can't sort a table with threat values and expect to automatically sort the player table |
| 00:26.38 | NeoTron | which is one thing I just stated I wished there was :P |
| 00:26.44 | foxlit | you can't sort a table with threat values period. |
| 00:26.48 | Kimmeh | ya |
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| 00:27.21 | foxlit | (and your example function more or less does exactly what you want. Hm!) |
| 00:27.23 | Kimmeh | so ill have to save the name somehow with the threathvalue but only sort the table by threathlevel |
| 00:27.37 | foxlit | which is because I'm misreading things |
| 00:28.15 | Tem | one shotting 3drake sarth makes me a happy panda |
| 00:30.06 | mikma | now let tekkub to scratch your belly |
| 00:33.11 | Kimmeh | NeoTron what you wrot earlier"{ { name=player, threat =100 }, {name = player2, threat=200} }", will i be able to sort that only based on the threatvalue |
| 00:33.16 | Kimmeh | so the player name follows |
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| 00:33.31 | Aznamir | hi all |
| 00:33.39 | Kimmeh | Hey Aznamir |
| 00:37.07 | bleeter | WUT |
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| 00:37.45 | bleeter | took you bloody long enough |
| 00:38.01 | Lopeppeppy | Obviously I'm neither the most intelligent dinosaur, nor the most stalker-y. |
| 00:38.44 | foxlit | lies, dammit. All the devilsaurs are behind you when you're not looking. |
| 00:39.06 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr, dearie. |
| 00:39.17 | Lopeppeppy | How would you like to be prepared, with BBQ or a honey mustard sauce? |
| 00:39.25 | foxlit | They're (a) very adept at hiding when you ARE looking (b) divided over the issue which particular one is going to eat you for lunch today. |
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| 00:40.04 | foxlit | Unfortunately, they're also (c) 25 levels below you by this point. |
| 00:41.16 | Kimmeh | Will this work, if (p and r == nill) then? |
| 00:41.57 | PProvost | if p and not r then |
| 00:42.34 | Tuller | lua> false == nil |
| 00:42.34 | lua_bot | Tuller: false |
| 00:42.39 | Kimmeh | well i want to know if both are nil, then |
| 00:42.50 | nevcairiel | Hm Cairenn, can i upload Beta versions to WoWI without using your SVN? |
| 00:43.01 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: sure you can |
| 00:43.02 | PProvost | if not p and not r then |
| 00:43.02 | Tuller | if not(p or r) then --danger! |
| 00:43.06 | Gnarfoz | spammers seem to be getting more creative these days: http://ross.fappett.com/misc/emales.png |
| 00:43.11 | foxlit | lua> nil == false or nil |
| 00:43.12 | lua_bot | foxlit: nil |
| 00:43.13 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat34.html |
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| 00:43.28 | nevcairiel | Cairenn: on my exisiting project in that nifty beta tab? :) |
| 00:43.51 | Tuller | yeah, i would love to have something like that :P |
| 00:43.53 | Cairenn | that I don't believe so |
| 00:44.02 | Cairenn | upload it as a "patch" and put that it's a beta |
| 00:44.13 | Cairenn | then it'll show up under the "optional files" tab |
| 00:44.24 | nevcairiel | hm i guess |
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| 00:45.00 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: now all I'm curious about is who Nyxia is :P |
| 00:45.12 | Lopeppeppy | Tee hee hee, I won't give it away!!! |
| 00:46.23 | nevcairiel | Cairenn: you should support Git, it would be really easy to just push to two pages instead of only WoWAce then =) With SVN thats such a pain :( |
| 00:46.35 | nevcairiel | (Short of that i don't even use svn anymore) |
| 00:46.38 | foxlit | I, for one, welcome our new April Fools' overlords. |
| 00:46.46 | foxlit | (possibly in 5 days) |
| 00:46.51 | PProvost | I push git to multiple parents now. Love that. |
| 00:46.53 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: we're trying to get it in place, just other stuff keeps coming up that we have to deal with first |
| 00:47.04 | PProvost | I would happily push to wowi too |
| 00:47.13 | PProvost | Especially if that got me an update ala CurseForge. :) |
| 00:47.22 | nevcairiel | Cairenn: good to hear that its in work, at least :) |
| 00:47.29 | foxlit | teehee |
| 00:47.37 | Tuller | you can take svn from my cold dead hands! |
| 00:47.38 | bleeter | I'd rather see Mercurial than git, but w/e :P |
| 00:47.46 | foxlit | with a little bit of git intergration, we can have the files.wowace.com scenario play out on wowi :P |
| 00:47.49 | bleeter | thanks mate! |
| 00:49.17 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: so you're secretly planning for curse to buy them out? :p |
| 00:49.46 | foxlit | I'm secretly planning for world domination by fish--- er. Forget that. |
| 00:50.04 | Gnarfoz | tentacles? |
| 00:50.05 | Lopeppeppy | Fish is not a good bribe for a dino. |
| 00:50.10 | Tuller | using nachos as bait for fish? |
| 00:50.10 | Lopeppeppy | Scales are not something I enjoy to eat. |
| 00:50.15 | Gnarfoz | (which reminds me of questionablecontent :D) |
| 00:50.49 | theorbtwo | Anything with an oviopositor... |
| 00:51.04 | Lopeppeppy | Is not a dinosaur. |
| 00:51.55 | bleeter | Cairenn: fwiw, you could advise people to investigate the python 'tailor' script if they wish to convert from your SVN to a local git etc. http://progetti.arstecnica.it/tailor/ |
| 00:52.34 | bleeter | Cairenn: if they're waiting on you guys to do git/monotone/perforce/darcs/bazaar-ng/arx/aegis integration ;) |
| 00:52.42 | Kimmeh | !api if |
| 00:52.42 | lua_bot | Found 27 possible matches for 'if'. Please be more specific |
| 00:57.56 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: opening para ... http://www.wowwiki.com/User:WoWWiki-Normal ... I've tried tidying it a little so it makes a bit more sense.. but.. ergh .. lol |
| 00:58.11 | bleeter | *which goes to explain my WoWI name |
| 00:59.33 | Lopeppeppy | Huh? |
| 00:59.45 | Lopeppeppy | ~emulate bleeter |
| 00:59.46 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 00:59.58 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... do not see relation to the forum toon. |
| 01:00.30 | bleeter | WUT |
| 01:01.10 | Lopeppeppy | Forum toon is not mentioned on that wiki page at all. |
| 01:01.13 | Lopeppeppy | Unlike mine. http://www.wowwiki.com/Lopeppeppy |
| 01:01.17 | Lopeppeppy | All about the Peppy, all the time. |
| 01:01.57 | bleeter | refresh |
| 01:02.04 | bleeter | I realised I missed the forum thing |
| 01:02.13 | theorbtwo | Hm, either upgrading ARL, or the changes I just made to my own plugin, completely fucked my machine. |
| 01:02.25 | theorbtwo | I think it's ARL, since it was OK before I started mucking about with it... |
| 01:02.45 | theorbtwo | Investigating once I finish rebooting. |
| 01:03.21 | theorbtwo | Any ARL people here? |
| 01:04.08 | bleeter | you mean Ackis? |
| 01:04.08 | [draco] | ~asktoask |
| 01:04.09 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 01:04.30 | Kimmeh | Whats ARL? |
| 01:04.40 | theorbtwo | bleeter: Well, the docs list a few co-authors. |
| 01:04.53 | theorbtwo | [draco]: I know, I didn't just ask to ask. |
| 01:05.00 | bleeter | theorbtwo: you could try this technique... "Ackis: are you there?" |
| 01:05.11 | bleeter | repeat for author names that match nicks |
| 01:05.11 | Rabbitbunny | how can I tell what type of armor I can wear? I don't see it in the Unit API. |
| 01:05.13 | theorbtwo | bleeter: Fair enough. |
| 01:05.40 | bleeter | though ideally put all the names on one line, or ping them in /msg and then let them know if any of the others reply etc. |
| 01:05.55 | theorbtwo | Kimmeh: AckisRecipieList, lists the recipies that you don't have yet, and where you can get them, and etc. |
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| 01:07.41 | Lopeppeppy | Swear to god, Bleeter, you still don't show in your wiki as the character you were posting on the forums with, if that was you I stalked with Nyxia! |
| 01:09.03 | bleeter | "Posts to forums as Kantankerus"?? |
| 01:09.08 | bleeter | want me to add the server? |
| 01:09.37 | Lopeppeppy | Swear I dont' see it, and I checked in a different browser too! |
| 01:10.02 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, now it shows, now that I'm a liar. |
| 01:10.05 | Lopeppeppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:10.15 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry. Dumb computers and caches and toons and rawr. |
| 01:12.00 | bleeter | hahah just as I fix it up best as I can for you :P |
| 01:12.09 | Thunder_Child | PEBKAC *cackle* |
| 01:12.32 | bleeter | though I think in the process I broke my page :( |
| 01:12.41 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you, bleeter... er... meep... I'm sorry. |
| 01:12.41 | theorbtwo | Ackis: Ping me if you've got debugging ideas. |
| 01:12.54 | Lopeppeppy | TC, after 8pm, Pebkac might as well be my name. |
| 01:14.07 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, i just had a mental image of that being your actual name....and having to write the whole thing out on official papers |
| 01:15.12 | WobWork | lol@abtrusegoose |
| 01:15.44 | Lopeppeppy | And on *that* note, I really gotta get to bed. Goodnight, everypeople. Be excellent to one another. |
| 01:15.52 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: I hope you're happy now with my latest effort, all the same :P |
| 01:15.52 | Cairenn | night Lopeppeppy, sweet dreams |
| 01:15.56 | Thunder_Child | night Lopeppeppy |
| 01:15.58 | bleeter | gnight Lopeppeppy |
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| 01:16.50 | Arrowmaster | if sombody wants to post in that thread about the ace2 memory allocation error: block too big error on the ui forums, thats one of the problems with ace2 it uses pcall() in many places so the stacktrace is gone and theres no way to debug what addon is causing it |
| 01:17.02 | Arrowmaster | seriously whats up with this account is not active shit |
| 01:18.14 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15973597334&postId=159721200802&sid=1#8 |
| 01:18.48 | Cairenn | is it account payment roll-over day. Arrowmaster? |
| 01:18.55 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
| 01:18.58 | Arrowmaster | i dont check |
| 01:19.05 | nevcairiel | its somehow related to the new battle.net account stuff |
| 01:19.20 | Cairenn | dont' know if you remember, that used to happen allllll the time |
| 01:19.22 | Arrowmaster | i havent switched yet |
| 01:19.32 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: yeah still, everyone has it :x |
| 01:19.44 | nevcairiel | EU can't even switch yet |
| 01:19.45 | nevcairiel | and we get it |
| 01:19.47 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 01:20.04 | Cairenn | you could log into game, but couldn't log in to the forums if it was the day your [monthly/3 monthly, whatever] renewal went through |
| 01:20.25 | Arrowmaster | Next Bill Date: March 25, 2009 10:24:06 AM |
| 01:20.43 | nevcairiel | ha |
| 01:20.52 | Cairenn | yup, so that lovely bug is back |
| 01:20.55 | Cairenn | I'll pass it along |
| 01:21.00 | Arrowmaster | if i cancel now since i dont play anymore will i still get charged? |
| 01:21.16 | nevcairiel | is it after 10:24 AM yet? =P |
| 01:21.30 | Arrowmaster | its 9:21pm edt |
| 01:21.33 | bleeter | what timezone is that date in? |
| 01:21.41 | Arrowmaster | pdt probably |
| 01:21.46 | bleeter | sometimes us blizz use pdt, sometimes gmt |
| 01:21.49 | nevcairiel | its still long gone |
| 01:21.52 | bleeter | account action email foo's all in gmt |
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| 01:22.53 | bleeter | coz for somereason they can't lookup a customer's residence and do the timezone conversion for them in the outbound email /shrug |
| 01:24.28 | bleeter | or know what timezone the realm is in which the indcident took place on |
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| 01:36.22 | WobWork | has anyone heard of jumping 'to reset your server ping' ? |
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| 01:36.37 | kd3 | pulled right out of that player's ass |
| 01:36.41 | Torhal | WobWork: lol? |
| 01:36.49 | WobWork | That was my impression, yeah |
| 01:37.57 | bleeter | WobWork: you weren't here earlier.. had I previously mentioned to you a tauren toon named 'Malmooninga'? |
| 01:38.05 | WobWork | >< |
| 01:38.11 | bleeter | :D |
| 01:38.13 | WobWork | that's... brilliant =P |
| 01:38.57 | bleeter | shammy |
| 01:40.12 | Shirik | HOLY CRAP |
| 01:40.17 | Shirik | Conqueror gloves! |
| 01:40.19 | Shirik | They really exist! |
| 01:40.48 | bleeter | WobWork: yar, rather brilliant. I heard his (the thugby player) named mentioned in media couple of days ago, I couldn't help but 'Mooo' back at the story =)) |
| 01:40.52 | bleeter | name |
| 01:41.02 | Shirik | I'm not kidding, we've had 3D down for like... a good... 2-3 months. We've had like 1 conqueror gloves drop in all of our Sarth kills |
| 01:41.14 | Shirik | 2 dropped today, and I can finally finish my set |
| 01:41.29 | kd3 | meh, conq is the bane of our raiding existence |
| 01:41.49 | Adys | Shirik: CHANGE RAID LEADER !!!! |
| 01:41.51 | Adys | imo. |
| 01:41.53 | kd3 | 'oh look, conq! any offspecs want it? it's just going to rot otherwise' |
| 01:41.54 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:42.03 | Shirik | kd3 that makes me so sad :( |
| 01:42.14 | Adys | so anyway, if anyone's familiar with css |
| 01:42.30 | Adys | I got a parent div, inside there's a dozen of other divs that act as lines |
| 01:42.50 | Shirik | here's how bad it is |
| 01:42.53 | Torhal | Hah. Every TV show I try to watch, the people are blue. Something's off with my RGB. |
| 01:42.58 | Shirik | I'm wearing gloves with +hit on them |
| 01:43.03 | Shirik | as a healing priest |
| 01:43.06 | Adys | I want only one of them to extend the parent, the others will be limited in width by the maximum width of that first one |
| 01:43.51 | Adys | so basically that one div would never have any linebreak |
| 01:47.27 | Adys | http://pastebin.com/d3e0108bc |
| 01:47.29 | Adys | Something like that |
| 01:47.38 | Adys | the name is in its own div |
| 01:48.04 | kd3 | so are those all children of the parent div? |
| 01:48.45 | Adys | parent div is the ==||== around it, the first line is its own div (class=name) and the rest is the other children div (class=text, content whatever) |
| 01:50.03 | Adys | http://pastebin.com/d36406e29 |
| 01:50.07 | kd3 | so .name { white-space:nowrap } ? |
| 01:50.27 | Adys | makes it go outside the parent div |
| 01:50.55 | bleeter | Shirik: my resto druid has weapons with +hit... in fact, I upgraded them last night.. to another weapon with +hit... :( |
| 01:51.09 | bleeter | such fail |
| 01:51.20 | kd3 | what size limits are on the parent div? |
| 01:51.28 | Thunder_Child | just think of it as an item for dual specing bleeter |
| 01:51.37 | Adys | none |
| 01:51.37 | kd3 | and shouldn't the internal structures be spans anyway? the block element itself is the parent div |
| 01:52.00 | Adys | I need divs inside it for a bunch of reasons |
| 01:52.22 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: I got half a bloody bankload of druid stuff ready for quad speccing ;) |
| 01:52.28 | Adys | ooo wait i found why |
| 01:52.55 | Thunder_Child | then pallys would want it |
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| 01:53.14 | bleeter | fuk teh pallyz |
| 01:53.17 | bleeter | ;) |
| 01:53.36 | kd3 | there are {0,1,inf} solutions to any problem. let's not go that last route... |
| 01:53.59 | bleeter | kd3: but it's fun! |
| 01:54.00 | Thunder_Child | and the shammys |
| 01:54.55 | ZorbaTHut | I kind of wish blizzard implemented some kind of useless-token-tradein system |
| 01:55.15 | kd3 | valor->heroo |
| 01:55.16 | kd3 | yay |
| 01:55.23 | ZorbaTHut | if you accumulate three t7 tokens of any variety (but of the same slot), you can trade it in for one t7 token of your choice |
| 01:55.37 | Shirik | well |
| 01:55.40 | Shirik | you can sell them for 5g |
| 01:55.41 | ZorbaTHut | or maybe two tokens. I dunno. |
| 01:55.43 | Adys | yeah no |
| 01:55.54 | Adys | I like actually having useless stuff in raids |
| 01:55.54 | ZorbaTHut | that is a pretty crummy consolation prize :P |
| 01:55.56 | Adys | i mean |
| 01:56.02 | Adys | gearing up is extremely quick |
| 01:56.04 | Shirik | Maybe token into badges |
| 01:56.13 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, token->badges wouldn't be bad |
| 01:56.53 | Shirik | [Epic] pisses me off |
| 01:56.53 | Shirik | Because the only good trinkets for my class are ilvl 200 |
| 01:56.53 | Shirik | well there might be some good ones higher |
| 01:56.55 | Shirik | but they don't show up |
| 01:57.00 | Shirik | and the ilvl 200 ones are good |
| 01:57.34 | Thunder_Child | you are going to want 213 anyway just for the vehicle in ulduar regardless of if it is good or not |
| 01:58.03 | VonhintenHOME` | Yeah, things like wow-heroes.com screw me over, they go by ilvl. then give bonuses for jewelcrafter gems, but don't give bonuses for alchemist bonus to elixir |
| 01:58.06 | Shirik | vehicle? |
| 01:58.20 | kd3 | fight #1 is a vehicle fight |
| 01:58.28 | VonhintenHOME` | darkmoon card: greatness, best in slot trinket, ilvl 200 |
| 01:58.32 | kd3 | vehicles scale based on your collective ilvl average |
| 02:00.59 | mikma | faiiiiiil |
| 02:03.28 | bleeter | I'm still trying to work out why the alchy trinket isn't epic in wrath |
| 02:04.50 | DWSR | kd3: Do they scale based on the ilvl of the people in the vehicle or of the entire raid? |
| 02:05.06 | kd3 | afaik it's per-vehicle |
| 02:05.12 | DWSR | makes sense |
| 02:05.19 | DWSR | per raid would suck balls |
| 02:05.32 | Adys | kd3: there, my problem is I dont know how to limit the size of the children divs by the size of the .name div |
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| 02:08.29 | WobWork | kd3: http://www.bigredkitty.net/2009/03/23/proving-once-again-that-its-all-hunter-loot/ |
| 02:09.00 | WobWork | Shirik: ^ |
| 02:09.45 | Shirik | heh |
| 02:10.23 | Aznamir | um.. you can use the same trinket in both slots for achievement |
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| 02:12.07 | WobWork | Aznamir: hm, it's not simultaneous filling of all slots with epic gear? |
| 02:13.07 | Thunder_Child | WobWork, he seems to be correct, if i remove an item it doesnt go dark on the achivement thing |
| 02:13.56 | Adys | which means you can get the ach easily post patch |
| 02:14.03 | Adys | since you can get refund on items you buy |
| 02:14.09 | Aznamir | nope |
| 02:14.10 | DWSR | http://www.warcraftmillionaire.com/ <-- TL;DR, just play the AH. |
| 02:14.10 | Thunder_Child | ahhh, i just switch my rings around and it worked |
| 02:14.20 | Thunder_Child | fail blizzard, fail |
| 02:15.29 | Thunder_Child | i live when people say "[07:14] [3] <Deathtol>: need 2 healers for fresh guild naxx run, pst" obviously by that time, it is NOT a guild run |
| 02:15.37 | Thunder_Child | s/live/love it/ |
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| 02:16.08 | DWSR | esp. if it's a 10naxx run |
| 02:16.11 | DWSR | Thats 20% non-guildies. |
| 02:16.25 | WobWork | which, technically is still a majority of guildies |
| 02:16.53 | DWSR | not a guild run imo |
| 02:16.54 | Thunder_Child | i didnt know you needed to have a majority to call it somthing |
| 02:17.12 | WobWork | What is defined as a 'Guild Run' then? |
| 02:17.17 | DWSR | all guildies |
| 02:17.18 | Thunder_Child | all guilkdies |
| 02:17.21 | Thunder_Child | guildies* |
| 02:17.27 | Antiarc | Shirik: Someone in my guild rolled a DK named Shiriak and it's wigging me out |
| 02:17.37 | WobWork | meh, I'd call it a guild run if we had to pick up a couple of pugs to fill slots |
| 02:17.40 | Shirik | There's a druid in my guild named Iriel |
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| 02:18.21 | Iriel | Yeah, people stole my name |
| 02:18.21 | WobWork | Meh, we have a shammy named "Shamor" and every time I see his name, I get the Black Or White by Michael Jackson song stuck in my head |
| 02:18.28 | Iriel | Well, i guess it's not a very hard name to arrive at |
| 02:18.57 | WobWork | I shall name my next druid, Iriel |
| 02:19.08 | WobWork | no wait, that'd just be confusing |
| 02:19.48 | DWSR | Anyone listen to these guys? |
| 02:19.55 | bleeter | hahhahaa |
| 02:20.10 | bleeter | think I got an original issue 12" vinyl of them somewhere |
| 02:20.15 | bleeter | or my brother prolly has it |
| 02:20.28 | DWSR | :O |
| 02:20.30 | bleeter | yar, bro has it along with my original issue 12" Blue Monday |
| 02:20.39 | bleeter | well, original .au issues |
| 02:20.42 | DWSR | wow |
| 02:20.44 | bleeter | not original .uk |
| 02:20.53 | bleeter | so not really worth much |
| 02:21.44 | bleeter | he can wrest my 12" of rockit and futureshock megamix from my cold dead hands though |
| 02:22.25 | DWSR | ? |
| 02:22.51 | Thunder_Child | thats ok bleeter, i ont think anyone wants it |
| 02:22.54 | Thunder_Child | dont* |
| 02:23.07 | Jamash | I'm almost too young to remember vinyl |
| 02:23.30 | Thunder_Child | i remeber renting records from the library |
| 02:23.34 | Jamash | :-O |
| 02:23.38 | Thunder_Child | remember* |
| 02:24.21 | Thunder_Child | HMS Pinafore is teh win |
| 02:24.59 | DWSR | I don't remember Vinyl, too young |
| 02:25.02 | DWSR | I remember tapes though |
| 02:25.10 | Thunder_Child | 8-track? |
| 02:26.02 | DWSR | No. Compact Casette |
| 02:27.44 | DWSR | Yeah, I'm a youngin |
| 02:33.34 | Adys | hm |
| 02:33.51 | Adys | anyone in game? I need the screenshot of the tooltip of http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=44819 |
| 02:34.50 | kd3 | it's BtA if that's what you're wondering |
| 02:34.53 | Adys | nah |
| 02:35.02 | Adys | i genuinely need a tooltip ss :p |
| 02:36.50 | kd3 | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/5697525d87a69718a22d4d4938c13fce.jpg |
| 02:36.59 | Adys | thanks a lot :) |
| 02:38.43 | Ackis | i punched a hole in teh wall and i think i broked a knuckle |
| 02:38.46 | Adys | Your sister leaks more than X memory |
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| 02:40.22 | kd3 | 500 freaking megs |
| 02:40.23 | kd3 | sigh |
| 02:40.32 | Adys | you missed my awesome joke |
| 02:40.35 | Adys | [04:38:45] <Adys> Your sister leaks more than X memory |
| 02:42.08 | bleeter | DWSR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7dAxvj2mlU |
| 02:42.24 | WobWork | Ackis: why are you punching walls? |
| 02:42.34 | Ackis | WobWork i was angry |
| 02:42.44 | bleeter | DWSR: my bro and I also have original demo tapes of Fairlight CMI :D |
| 02:42.54 | WobWork | Ackis: =( |
| 02:43.07 | WobWork | Go hug a cat |
| 02:43.28 | Ackis | WobWork: someone typed positive left, negative right in raid chat and I followed that which was wrong and got killed |
| 02:43.49 | WobWork | trying for undying? |
| 02:43.53 | Ackis | WobWork: immortal |
| 02:43.55 | DWSR | bleeter: Lovin that link btw. |
| 02:44.03 | WobWork | rarr =( |
| 02:44.35 | Ackis | and i'm a trial in the guild too |
| 02:45.11 | bleeter | DWSR: ~1983 stuff... if ya can't tell ;) |
| 02:45.20 | Gngsk | haha, I did the same shit last week ackis |
| 02:45.22 | Gngsk | felt like shit :( |
| 02:45.24 | DWSR | bleeter: Oh yeah. : |
| 02:45.31 | DWSR | :D Some of the best stuff from the 80s and 90s. |
| 02:45.40 | DWSR | Too many screamers in todays electronic music |
| 02:45.41 | Ackis | Gngsk: do you have a swollen bloody knuckle? |
| 02:45.52 | Gngsk | nah, broken headset |
| 02:46.07 | bleeter | DWSR: too easy these days. compare the effort required to do the original Dr WHo theme, and how long it'd take today |
| 02:46.08 | Ackis | my headset was 150, so I put it down gently |
| 02:46.21 | bleeter | DWSR: from memory, it took Derbyshire around 6 months to record the original theme |
| 02:46.30 | Gngsk | was one of those cheapo logitech ones |
| 02:46.44 | bleeter | when stuff involves a bucket of work, you take the time to make stuff good... well.. in theory |
| 02:46.50 | Gngsk | got a bestbuy replacement plan too, just gotta get my lazy ass over there for a new one, heh |
| 02:50.12 | bleeter | DWSR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLIi_ZMBfQs classic aussie electro band work. original mix. |
| 02:50.29 | Rabbitbunny | mwahaha |
| 02:51.40 | DWSR | bleeter: :D |
| 02:51.46 | DWSR | TOo bad the audio quality of old yt vids sucks |
| 02:52.05 | bleeter | all of severed heads stuff's out there on the net to d/l |
| 02:52.29 | bleeter | ellard told the record companies to fuck off in the mid 90's, he'd been doing digital publishing ever since, iirc |
| 02:53.01 | bleeter | and he's since moved on from hating record companies to hating his 'fans' and their sense of entitlement to new work hence he quit lol |
| 02:53.43 | WobWork | http://haha.nu/arts/artwork/seamless-pictures/ |
| 02:53.46 | WobWork | that's pretty cool |
| 02:53.52 | bleeter | DWSR: and while I'm on a retro tack.. my bro's band http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo1HQIPjt0g (not one of their better remixes... /shrug) |
| 02:54.21 | bleeter | DWSR: anyways, yes.. the days before pro-tools EZMODE are golden :) |
| 02:54.28 | DWSR | yeah, I know. :D |
| 02:54.35 | DWSR | Pro-Tools is fail too |
| 02:55.16 | Thunder_Child | WobWork, somewaht reminds me of escher |
| 02:55.23 | WobWork | yeah |
| 02:55.46 | bleeter | DWSR: that severed heads guy, there was a looong running joke from back in the 70's.. start of the gig someone *has* to yell out 'Where's the fucking drummer??' |
| 02:56.15 | bleeter | DWSR: anyways, cut forward to around 2002, my bro n me n him and some other sydney techno types go and see Kraftwerk in one of their frist performances here in ages |
| 02:56.35 | WobWork | http://static.flickr.com/102/275184108_0274f1d757_o.jpg is fantastic |
| 02:56.59 | bleeter | DWSR: I had to... didn't I.. and the audience lol'd. can't imagine what Kraftwerk thought :D |
| 02:57.13 | DWSR | bleeter: Lucky bish. No good acts come to Canada ever. |
| 02:57.23 | DWSR | Except for the fact that Deamau5 is now king of the world and he's in Toronto. |
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| 02:57.32 | bleeter | DWSR: mate, you should try living in Tasmania |
| 02:57.48 | bleeter | last half decent act we had here was Eurythmics circa 1989 or so ;) |
| 02:57.57 | WobWork | hehe |
| 02:58.27 | DWSR | bleeter: Problem with Canada is that all the local talent moves to the states. |
| 02:58.48 | WobWork | All our local talent is from new zealand =P |
| 02:59.10 | DWSR | lol |
| 02:59.19 | bleeter | WobWork: ease up |
| 02:59.23 | DWSR | You take a ferry, I have to get on a 5 hour plane ride. Canada is freakin' HUGE. |
| 02:59.24 | bleeter | talent's a bit of a stretch |
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| 03:01.40 | Ackis | fuck canada |
| 03:02.00 | VonhintenHOME` | nigga fuck yo couch! |
| 03:02.09 | WobWork | http://vimeo.com/3514904 <-- Revisioning of Red Riding Hood |
| 03:02.44 | WobWork | DWSR: You forget. You can take a five hour plane ride and end up somewhere |
| 03:02.53 | WobWork | We take a five hour plane ride and end up in the ocean =P |
| 03:03.02 | DWSR | WobWork: Where you are, that's something] |
| 03:03.10 | DWSR | Nice reef you got there. |
| 03:03.18 | DWSR | You know what's off of our coast, the bloody Yanks. |
| 03:03.22 | WobWork | You've got some interesting moose |
| 03:03.38 | DWSR | I can go to my backyard to see those |
| 03:03.49 | WobWork | A Møøse once bit my sister ... |
| 03:04.09 | cog|away | Ackis: it's a bit cold and dry for that... |
| 03:04.09 | DWSR | WobWork: YES!!! |
| 03:04.16 | DWSR | ~Wobwork++ |
| 03:04.23 | WobWork | cog|away: That's what lube is for |
| 03:04.30 | WobWork | maybe that warming stuff |
| 03:04.43 | cog|away | WobWork: you mean global? |
| 03:04.51 | WobWork | DWSR: ^^ |
| 03:05.09 | bleeter | WobWork: we can take a five hour plane ride and still not ahve left the country :P |
| 03:05.14 | DWSR | No really, it was a nasty bite too! |
| 03:05.17 | WobWork | truedat |
| 03:05.55 | bleeter | like in france on a public holiday they were all 'wtf you're gunna drive three hours just to have dinner in northern italy?? ARE YOU MADE DRIVING FOR THAT LONG??' lol |
| 03:06.08 | WobWork | sigh |
| 03:06.09 | DWSR | 3 hours is like nothing. |
| 03:06.12 | WobWork | it's sad cause it's true |
| 03:06.19 | DWSR | I drive 2 and a bit every weekend to go skiing in the winter. |
| 03:06.29 | WobWork | I remember people in the UK complaining about driving for two hours to visit friends |
| 03:06.33 | DWSR | rofl |
| 03:06.36 | DWSR | 2 hours is so short. |
| 03:06.48 | WobWork | I do that on the train =P |
| 03:06.53 | DWSR | Canada is so big that, standing on the east coast, you're closer to the UK than you are to the west coast. |
| 03:06.57 | bleeter | mate of mine's driven from sydney to mackay because someone left something in his car |
| 03:07.07 | bleeter | that could've just as easily been mailed |
| 03:07.36 | bleeter | DWSR: I'm in Tasmania. I'm closer to Antarctica than I am to Perth Western Australia. |
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| 03:09.50 | WobWork | I've heard Tasmania described as "An island off Australia" >< |
| 03:10.37 | WobWork | sorry |
| 03:10.39 | WobWork | " swimming near a jetty off the Australian island of Tasmania..." |
| 03:10.53 | bleeter | WobWork: if Australia's the arse end of the world, Tasmania must be the hemmaroid |
| 03:11.03 | bleeter | DWSR: http://sevcom.com/ you might like :) |
| 03:12.26 | bleeter | WobWork: well technically, continental autralia is it's own island. island continent and all, so those phrases are quite correct :P |
| 03:12.47 | Legorol | Is NCIS any good? (the TV series) |
| 03:12.57 | WobWork | well the phrasing is a bit odd |
| 03:16.17 | bleeter | Legorol: afaik, clone of most US cop shows with similar theme 'scifi take on crime lab' |
| 03:16.24 | bleeter | *made to look like RL tho |
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| 03:19.37 | Kraft | i am very drunk. Could someone please be so kind as to tell me how to log into the EU forums with any character. currently i see a big list but i dont seem to be able to select any of them |
| 03:20.24 | Thrae | Kraft: Drunk? Well then just give me your password and I'll log you in and definitely not take advantage of you in your drunken state. |
| 03:20.36 | Kraft | Brilliant |
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| 03:20.58 | Kraft | My password is: ThraeRox |
| 03:21.09 | Thrae | A fan! |
| 03:21.19 | Kraft | Meh |
| 03:21.27 | Kraft | i guess i may have been banned |
| 03:22.09 | Kraft | i told a guy that was proud of not using macros or addons that he was like a person who drives being proud of not using indicators or lights |
| 03:24.33 | WobWork | http://www.shirtsmyway.com/ <-- this looks like an interesting service |
| 03:25.12 | WobWork | Kraft: Try reloading the forums |
| 03:25.26 | WobWork | It's happened to me before, and it was just a forum bug |
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| 03:32.52 | kd3 | yay, Chef Kaydeethree |
| 03:33.59 | bleeter | kd3: great, now bake me some lamingtons |
| 03:34.02 | bleeter | and some for WobWork too |
| 03:34.12 | WobWork | I'll have some pav |
| 03:34.25 | bleeter | and I don't want to see you out of the kitchen if it's dry and crumbly lamingtons too |
| 03:34.26 | WobWork | speaking of which |
| 03:34.29 | bleeter | ooooh yes pav |
| 03:34.29 | WobWork | I need some lunch |
| 03:34.36 | bleeter | one pav each as well, and not imploded |
| 03:40.23 | kd3 | hm. arl says I've got 159 cooking recipes, yet the achievement ui says I've got 157 |
| 03:42.54 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 03:43.11 | Legorol | kd3: known bug |
| 03:43.24 | Legorol | the achievement may count more or less than the actual number of recipes you got |
| 03:43.38 | NightHawkTheSane | i knew about the bug where it counted more. |
| 03:43.40 | NightHawkTheSane | but less? |
| 03:43.47 | Legorol | yeah, sadly :( |
| 03:45.25 | sacarasc | My achievement is counting more for me. 2 more. |
| 03:46.06 | DWSR | bleeter |
| 03:46.12 | DWSR | choon |
| 03:47.06 | kd3 | sigh. wtb a more direct fp from dalaran to SB |
| 03:47.36 | ScytheBlade1 | They should give WG the Dalaran Bubble treatement |
| 03:49.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Stick a hole in the top and call it good |
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| 03:50.43 | DWSR | WTB WG portal that stays up all the time |
| 03:52.23 | MentalPower | ... |
| 03:55.48 | cog|away | if it wasn't Tekkub it would've been someone else, imo |
| 03:56.11 | ScytheBlade1 | probably |
| 03:56.33 | NightHawkTheSane | i would have been a little sad if it wasn't Tekkub |
| 03:59.54 | Tekkub | omgomgomgomgomg |
| 04:00.06 | Tekkub | they're making a movie of Where the Wild Things Are |
| 04:00.33 | Tekkub | I blame that book for making me a furry |
| 04:00.53 | Tekkub | since it's like, the eariest furry-ish thing I can remember being exposed to |
| 04:03.15 | Duman | oof |
| 04:03.35 | Duman | cog: did I pollute your facebook stream enough today? ;) |
| 04:03.56 | cog|away | i stopped paying attention to it oh... 5 days ago |
| 04:03.57 | cog|away | <.< |
| 04:03.59 | cog|away | >.> |
| 04:04.01 | Duman | hehe |
| 04:04.18 | Duman | saw slouken today |
| 04:04.23 | cogwheel | gdc? |
| 04:04.27 | Duman | but he was busy 'interviewing' people |
| 04:04.28 | Duman | yeah |
| 04:05.16 | cogwheel | there's way too many of us in the bay area... we really should have a meetup sometime |
| 04:05.20 | Duman | seriously |
| 04:05.48 | Corrodias | which bay? |
| 04:05.52 | cogwheel | SF |
| 04:05.53 | Duman | sf |
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| 04:10.33 | Iriel | I failed to see slouken but I knew he was around but "busy" |
| 04:18.22 | Ackis | bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/cute-puppy-pictures-iz-hidin.jpg |
| 04:19.37 | bleeter | Iriel: wut? you mean you didn't hunt him down and tell him to 'go git bak werkin SDL 1.3 NAO!'??? SHAME! |
| 04:19.48 | bleeter | I guess this is why they have these types of conferences so far away from me :( |
| 04:19.52 | bleeter | ;) :P |
| 04:21.24 | bleeter | DWSR: dubwithnobassinmyheadman ;) |
| 04:21.30 | Duman | Iriel: you gonna be at gdc tomorrow? |
| 04:21.52 | Iriel | Duman: Perhaps, but I have /no/ idea when or for how long yet |
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| 04:22.00 | Duman | hehe, fair enough |
| 04:22.17 | Iriel | I was there for a good few hours today tho |
| 04:22.22 | WobWork | Tekkub: orly? That's all kinds of cool =) |
| 04:22.28 | Duman | ahh |
| 04:23.06 | DWSR | bleeter: :D |
| 04:23.07 | WobWork | Ackis: It ... actually took me a few seconds to identify the dog =P |
| 04:24.44 | cogwheel | Ackis: when your dog was a puppy he looked like that but basement |
| 04:25.05 | cogwheel | s/y// |
| 04:25.36 | WobWork | ...basement? |
| 04:25.58 | cogwheel | sorry... lolspeak |
| 04:26.07 | cogwheel | ceiling cat = white, basement cat = black |
| 04:26.19 | Tekkub | gah |
| 04:26.22 | Tekkub | fucking cat |
| 04:26.32 | cogwheel | no cats aren't for fucking |
| 04:26.37 | cogwheel | crap |
| 04:26.38 | Tekkub | Fuzzy just jumped up on my desk and blew catsnot all over my arm |
| 04:26.42 | cogwheel | that REALLY needed a comma |
| 04:26.45 | Tekkub | it wasn't even a goddamn sneeze |
| 04:26.53 | bleeter | god I love my 'job' in #guifications.... sole purpose is to /kick one guy |
| 04:26.58 | cogwheel | or an ellipsis... |
| 04:27.01 | bleeter | been going on for years now |
| 04:27.56 | cogwheel | RAWR |
| 04:28.01 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 04:28.17 | Arrowmaster | 99% of sectors discovered |
| 04:28.27 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:28.49 | cogwheel | wow you probed the whole universe? XD |
| 04:28.53 | bleeter | Iriel: spose you dunno of anyone with some 2nd hand RISCOS chip images for sale, do you? |
| 04:29.03 | Iriel | bleeter: Nope |
| 04:29.13 | bleeter | damn |
| 04:29.53 | bleeter | WTB: Minimap with vertical distance indicators like in Elite ;) |
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| 04:30.14 | Iriel | bleeter: Did you ever play Jumpgate? |
| 04:30.32 | Iriel | (A few years old now, space MMO) |
| 04:30.58 | Arrowmaster | few years old? |
| 04:31.03 | Arrowmaster | its coming out in june.... |
| 04:31.20 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: that's the sequel :P |
| 04:31.25 | bleeter | 'evolution' |
| 04:31.35 | Arrowmaster | the first one was an mmo? |
| 04:31.42 | Iriel | Yeah |
| 04:31.48 | WobWork | hehe: http://community.livejournal.com/worldofwarcraft/7712230.html?style=mine#cutid1 |
| 04:31.54 | Arrowmaster | you know i never realized that |
| 04:31.55 | Iriel | Anyway, it had an eliteish 'radar' |
| 04:32.03 | Iriel | I played the first one for a good few months |
| 04:32.13 | bleeter | Iriel: nah was too busy getting horrendously stressed in EU over multi-million dollar contracts and legal foo at the time, working 18+ hours a day 7 days a week. didn't have time to eat, let alone play anyone else's games |
| 04:32.17 | Iriel | Bought a force feedback joystick and everything |
| 04:32.46 | bleeter | every time I do maly... I'm 'wtb: elite radar' :/ |
| 04:32.56 | bleeter | Iriel: and you know exactly what I mean, I'm sure ;) |
| 04:33.25 | Iriel | I can imagine, but as a non-raider I lack personal experience 8-) |
| 04:34.12 | bleeter | ok, kirin-tor daily in coldarra... 'Aces high!' or something |
| 04:34.23 | bleeter | is phase 3 of maly |
| 04:34.29 | Iriel | Oh, I know Aces High, and hate it |
| 04:34.41 | smcn | has the portable lexicon of power been put in the ptr yet? i can't find it on wowhead |
| 04:34.43 | bleeter | imagine that as a 10man having to stay close to others |
| 04:34.54 | bleeter | *without* an Elite Radar when you know what an Elite Radar is |
| 04:35.11 | WobWork | spekaing of cats... http://www.historicandersonhouse.com/cats2.htm |
| 04:35.14 | Tekkub | the lexicon thing was removed |
| 04:35.18 | WobWork | although they're closing down, I believe =( |
| 04:35.51 | WobWork | Iriel: Thank god for the ability to tabard your way to exalted with the factions |
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| 04:36.02 | smcn | Tekkub: so is there another way to switch dual spec away from town? or can you just do it anywhere now? i don't have a subscription atm so i can't check ;P |
| 04:36.06 | WobWork | although I wish they'd do it for Sons of Hodir |
| 04:36.20 | WobWork | smcn: anywhere afaik |
| 04:36.38 | Tekkub | you can do it anywhere out of combat |
| 04:36.43 | Tekkub | it's been that way for weeks |
| 04:37.06 | Iriel | I just got exalted with the sons |
| 04:37.09 | Iriel | It didn't take long |
| 04:37.21 | Iriel | THank god for everfrost |
| 04:37.23 | smcn | k thanks. i have rss sub to mmochamp but after awhile the ptr updated patch notes all seem to blur together.. :P |
| 04:37.44 | Tekkub | so get on the ptr and play :P |
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| 04:39.54 | WobWork | everfrost gives me migraines squinting for it =( |
| 04:40.08 | WobWork | don't you need an active account? |
| 04:40.11 | WobWork | for the ptr? |
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| 04:43.08 | kd3 | if your account was active when they cloned the ptr server, no |
| 04:45.58 | bleeter | I still can't justify hordir exalted |
| 04:46.08 | bleeter | all that 'work' for +2SP and +1MP5 (iirc) |
| 04:46.17 | kd3 | meh, it's easy gold |
| 04:46.38 | Rabbitbunny | Hmm... |
| 04:46.52 | bleeter | kd3: I've got enough gold that I don't care for it anymore |
| 04:46.58 | Rabbitbunny | lua > print "yes" |
| 04:47.05 | Rabbitbunny | lua> print "yes" |
| 04:47.05 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: yes |
| 04:47.14 | Rabbitbunny | there you are... |
| 04:47.29 | bleeter | kd3: well, actually.. if I lost it all I would care. don't care about the need to keep it constantly topped up. |
| 04:47.32 | Corrodias | lua> 1/0 |
| 04:47.32 | lua_bot | Corrodias: inf |
| 04:47.46 | Corrodias | clever dick |
| 04:53.39 | WobWork | bleeter: just buy exalted then |
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| 05:00.07 | Rabbitbunny | lua> t = { ["one"] = "value1", ["two"] = "value2" } key = "two"; if (t[key] == "value2") then print "yes" end |
| 05:00.09 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: yes |
| 05:00.14 | Rabbitbunny | Interesting. |
| 05:00.25 | End | Rabbitbunny: NO |
| 05:15.11 | Arrowmaster | whats interesting about that? |
| 05:16.46 | flugh | good thing it won't evaluate some kind of 'drop database' or 'rm -rf ~' it's data/script files |
| 05:17.44 | cogwheel | more interesting would've been: |
| 05:17.46 | cogwheel | lua> t = { } t.one = "value1"; t.two = "value2"; key = "two"; if (t[key] == "value2") then print "yes" end |
| 05:17.46 | lua_bot | cogwheel: yes |
| 05:17.49 | cogwheel | imo |
| 05:17.50 | cogwheel | :P |
| 05:18.11 | cogwheel | but only if you're used to C-like languages |
| 05:19.04 | Iriel | And if you are this would be interesting too |
| 05:19.12 | Iriel | lua> x = 0; if (x) then print "yes" end |
| 05:19.12 | lua_bot | Iriel: yes |
| 05:20.27 | End | lua> print"yes" |
| 05:20.28 | lua_bot | End: yes |
| 05:20.36 | End | I win |
| 05:21.13 | cogwheel | on the flip side, shirik successfully used ^_^ in a c++ program |
| 05:22.09 | cogwheel | actually, i guess you could fit that in lua, but not in a generally useful way |
| 05:26.47 | Arrowmaster | hmm and now i cant find it in my logs, i had found a floating point number that lua said wasnt equal to itself |
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| 05:29.41 | Iriel | lua> x = 0/0 if ( x == x) then print "equal" else print "not equal" end |
| 05:29.41 | lua_bot | Iriel: not equal |
| 05:29.44 | Iriel | Like that, you mean? |
| 05:29.59 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 05:31.57 | xDx1 | Hey guys, having abit of a problem. I don't know how to show the name of the user in a frame that I am using for a popup box. http://privatepaste.com/f51Ztvh1mV That is how I went about "Trying" to do it. |
| 05:32.17 | xDx1 | Er, actually I removed it. But I have a global var set for the senders name. |
| 05:32.21 | Duman | 0/0 is undef... x/0 (where x != 0) is infinite ;) |
| 05:32.42 | Arrowmaster | lua> 1/0 == math.huge |
| 05:32.43 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: true |
| 05:33.05 | Corrodias | lua> math.huge == inf |
| 05:33.05 | lua_bot | Corrodias: false |
| 05:33.23 | Corrodias | lua> 1/0 |
| 05:33.23 | lua_bot | Corrodias: inf |
| 05:33.31 | Duman | lua> 0/0 |
| 05:33.31 | lua_bot | Duman: nan |
| 05:33.32 | Corrodias | >_> |
| 05:33.38 | Corrodias | lua> 1/0 == inf |
| 05:33.39 | lua_bot | Corrodias: false |
| 05:33.47 | Corrodias | lua> 1/0 == 1/0 |
| 05:33.47 | lua_bot | Corrodias: true |
| 05:34.06 | Corrodias | i wonder if inf is not a value, just a... display |
| 05:34.06 | Arrowmaster | inf is just a global thats currently nil |
| 05:34.15 | Corrodias | ah, indeed |
| 05:34.17 | Duman | yeah |
| 05:34.32 | Arrowmaster | in wow its -1.#INF or something |
| 05:34.54 | Arrowmaster | which is standard on windows or something for display |
| 05:36.12 | End | -1.#IND |
| 05:36.28 | End | oh wait |
| 05:36.29 | Tekkub | math.huge |
| 05:36.30 | End | wrong one |
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| 05:36.36 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:36.50 | deQer | where is weasl? |
| 05:37.01 | End | 0/0 is -1/#IND, 1/0 is 1.#INF |
| 05:37.04 | End | er |
| 05:37.08 | End | 0/0 is -1.#IND, 1/0 is 1.#INF |
| 05:37.32 | Tekkub | which, of course, is wrong |
| 05:37.37 | Tekkub | 1/0 is undef |
| 05:37.50 | End | WoW fail? |
| 05:38.00 | Arrowmaster | im bored, and i cant seem to find any dvds i havent watched (that i would actually want to watch) |
| 05:38.07 | Tekkub | lern2limits! |
| 05:38.58 | xDx1 | So would any one have any advice on how to display a global var that is sent in lua script in the XML file? Sorry, bit new to this so I am trying to learn and google didn't return any resourceful links. |
| 05:39.22 | Arrowmaster | ~wowprogramming |
| 05:39.23 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons ~ http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob ~ a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 05:39.28 | Arrowmaster | www.wowwiki.com |
| 05:39.38 | ReAn | so is anyone bothering porting grit to Ace3? or they gonna keep me running with Ace2 and Ace3 loaded in mem? |
| 05:39.46 | bleeter | WobWork: what a pointless wast of gold |
| 05:39.59 | xDx1 | Arrow, I am using WoWWiki. That is how I found this IRC |
| 05:41.28 | Tekkub | are there any group-target buffs that are talents anymore? |
| 05:41.36 | Tekkub | Divine Spirit's baseline in 3.1 |
| 05:41.45 | Tekkub | were there any other ones that were talents? |
| 05:42.36 | Tekkub | actually, what are all of them? AI, Mark, Fort, DSpi, ShadProt, and blesings? |
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| 05:44.13 | WobWork | Trueshot Aura? |
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| 05:44.56 | Tekkub | nah that's a self buff that overflows to the group |
| 05:45.34 | WobWork | I think that's it then |
| 05:45.39 | bleeter | Tekkub: depends, I guess if you include such as improved MOTW as exlusively a talent buff |
| 05:45.50 | bleeter | or a trained buff that's .. erm.. improved.. thru talents |
| 05:45.51 | WobWork | that's not exactly castable though |
| 05:46.03 | WobWork | if I suspect this is for Cork |
| 05:46.03 | Tekkub | no I'm not looking for modifications to spells |
| 05:46.08 | bleeter | kk |
| 05:46.15 | Tekkub | looking specifically for things that could go away on a talent swap |
| 05:46.29 | Tekkub | that hit the whole party when cast |
| 05:46.31 | xDx1 | Arrow, I can't find exactly what I am looking for. I am looking through the XML User guide, but it doesn't seem to explain exactly what I need. And I personally Don't know what to search for because anything I have searched for returned no results. |
| 05:47.04 | Tekkub | yea looks like my list covered all of em |
| 05:47.06 | bleeter | Tekkub: don't quote me, some of the other hunter stuff does spring to mind tho. stuff in beast tree. procs on mob death for party maybe? |
| 05:47.15 | bleeter | noncastable |
| 05:47.16 | Tekkub | the only one that would go away is Blessing of Sanc |
| 05:47.20 | WobWork | I wonder what would happen to the improved buff if you swap talents |
| 05:47.40 | Tekkub | this is for Cork, procs don't matter |
| 05:47.46 | xDx- | Gg, the nick is regd on everything I try. |
| 05:47.54 | Tekkub | WobWork, oh good question |
| 05:47.56 | bleeter | xDx-: welcome to Blizzard's wonderful world of stuff all documentation |
| 05:47.57 | Arrowmaster | ok now im getting annoied and must get iftop working on my router so i can figure out what the hell my dad is doing thats causing my net traffic to spike so much |
| 05:48.01 | WobWork | well, like, say I have IMOTW, and I cast it, then swap talents out of it |
| 05:48.14 | Tekkub | I know with the group buffs if you leave the group you lose the buff (why?) but when you re-join you don't get it back |
| 05:48.16 | Daventor | bleeter, haha. |
| 05:48.34 | TehxDx | there we go |
| 05:48.37 | TehxDx | that nick isnt regd |
| 05:49.52 | Tekkub | WobWork, I bet if it's something persistent like the pally Aura talents, it'll change, but if it's a cast and let it expire thing, it won't |
| 05:50.52 | GitFinger | losing those buffs on leaving group is really freaken annoying when you're dualboxing or playing with your kid and they briefly log onto an alt or something |
| 05:50.59 | GitFinger | I dun understand why we have to lose them etc. |
| 05:51.25 | GitFinger | BOSH BOSH BOSH!! LOADSAMONEY! |
| 05:52.09 | Tekkub | nope, I wrong... just gave myself Sanc then swapped and it went away |
| 05:52.46 | Tekkub | but give myself wisdom and swap, it stays |
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| 05:54.52 | Tekkub | okey weird |
| 05:55.33 | Tekkub | imporved Wisdom... when I swap I don't lose it, but the tooltip always says 73 MP5... but the spellbook tip with improved says 87 MP5 |
| 05:57.25 | FordTimelord | You what, You what, You what |
| 05:57.40 | FordTimelord | EXTERMINATE! |
| 05:58.01 | Shadowed | Tekkub: The action bar tooltip says 73 you mean? |
| 05:58.11 | Tekkub | no, I said what I meant |
| 05:58.25 | Shadowed | ... the buff tooltip? |
| 05:58.33 | Tekkub | yes |
| 05:59.13 | WobWork | does your character panel reflect that? |
| 05:59.19 | WobWork | I can't recall if it shows mp5 |
| 05:59.29 | Shadowed | it does |
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| 06:00.18 | WobWork | damnit, I want to level a tree druid now |
| 06:00.32 | Tekkub | yea it says 87 with the imp one... and 73 with normal |
| 06:00.37 | Tekkub | so the buff tip is wrong |
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| 06:00.57 | Wraithan | < not happy about the wisdom/mana spring changes |
| 06:01.39 | Tekkub | and when I swap away from improved, it goes back to 73 |
| 06:02.04 | Tekkub | curious... is the imp effect only on myself? |
| 06:02.17 | Tekkub | if I cast it on others do they get the normal 73? |
| 06:03.55 | Shadowed | Buff tooltips are not changed based on talents remember |
| 06:04.07 | Shadowed | only spell rank changes the buff tooltip numbers |
| 06:04.46 | Tekkub | I can't remember that which I didn't know |
| 06:04.55 | Shadowed | oh I figured you knew that |
| 06:05.38 | Shadowed | What do you mean by when you swap thought, when you swap out of imp wisdom? |
| 06:07.05 | Tekkub | 3.1 |
| 06:07.08 | Tekkub | dual spec |
| 06:07.40 | FordTimelord | All bound for muu muu land |
| 06:07.45 | Shadowed | If the spellbook tooltip still says 87, then it sounds like a big yea |
| 06:07.50 | Shadowed | s/big/bug/ |
| 06:08.34 | Tekkub | I wasn't saying there was a bug anywhere |
| 06:08.51 | Tekkub | I was just curious what happens when you swap specs with buff talents like that |
| 06:09.02 | FordTimelord | kittens are killed |
| 06:09.06 | Tekkub | if it's blessing of sanc, it goes away |
| 06:09.19 | Tekkub | if it's imp wisdom, the buff stays but the effect changes |
| 06:09.26 | Shadowed | oh |
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| 06:09.57 | Shadowed | random guess |
| 06:10.33 | Shadowed | In the case of imp buffs, it stays at 87 because I'd (imagine) it's a static number put on the player, not checked with talents every single time |
| 06:10.53 | Shadowed | only reason it goes away on sanct is the same reason that you lose a Paladins blessings when they leave the group |
| 06:11.07 | Tekkub | it DOESN'T stay 87 |
| 06:11.12 | Shadowed | oh |
| 06:11.14 | Shadowed | interesting |
| 06:11.23 | Tekkub | if you have imp, the char panel MP5 is 87 |
| 06:11.29 | Tekkub | if you don't, it's 73 |
| 06:11.32 | Shadowed | too late, wasn't sure if that was a question or statement |
| 06:11.36 | Tekkub | the buff never goes away |
| 06:11.43 | Shadowed | good to know |
| 06:11.55 | Tekkub | I need someone to cast it on to see if that effect happens there too |
| 06:11.58 | Tekkub | probably does |
| 06:12.03 | TehxDx | I can't find what I am looking for :( |
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| 06:18.05 | Tekkub | lawl... some people... "I don't know what exactly you mean by large, the repo is 1.6GB..." |
| 06:18.12 | Tekkub | Yes, that is large |
| 06:19.12 | FordTimelord | whose repo? |
| 06:19.20 | Tekkub | some user |
| 06:20.17 | FordTimelord | git repo? |
| 06:20.27 | FordTimelord | for some 10+ year old projects who've converted, that's not too big at all |
| 06:20.53 | FordTimelord | though it's prolly some idiot whose maanged to put some .isos inside one |
| 06:22.48 | Adys | How do you call the action of always showing the positivity/negativity sign behind a number in english? |
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| 06:23.37 | Tekkub | behind? |
| 06:23.44 | Tekkub | and we don't have a word for it |
| 06:23.59 | Tekkub | it's just "always showing the sign" |
| 06:25.09 | Tekkub | if you're talking old 10-key calculators though, it's called a post-op calculator |
| 06:25.39 | Adys | i think in french its something like "supermarking" |
| 06:25.41 | Tekkub | I don't know if they even make post-op calculators anymore |
| 06:26.04 | FordTimelord | um |
| 06:26.09 | FordTimelord | 'signed' vs 'unsigned' |
| 06:26.11 | FordTimelord | no? |
| 06:26.13 | Adys | no |
| 06:26.24 | Tem | Tekkub, no |
| 06:26.28 | Adys | or |
| 06:26.29 | Tekkub | unsigned implies always positive |
| 06:26.35 | Adys | yeah |
| 06:26.39 | Corrodias | post-op? calculators with different genitals? |
| 06:27.05 | Tekkub | Corrodias, no, where you type the number then hit plus if you want to add it, or minus to subtract |
| 06:27.28 | Tekkub | instead of... 123 + 456 - 789 it'd be 123+ 456+ 789- |
| 06:27.39 | Adys | LISP calculators |
| 06:28.00 | Adys | well I need a decent word for this action though |
| 06:28.11 | Adys | so right now I got "sign" or "supermark" |
| 06:28.18 | Adys | neither of which make sense |
| 06:29.04 | Tekkub | like I said, we don't have a word for it really |
| 06:29.20 | Adys | invent one then |
| 06:29.25 | Adys | never too late |
| 06:29.26 | Tekkub | flarfing |
| 06:29.30 | Adys | thanks! |
| 06:29.51 | Adys | # |
| 06:29.51 | Adys | UC Berkeley Events Calendar: Flickr, Flarfing, and Babelfish: |
| 06:30.18 | Tekkub | shit you googled it too |
| 06:30.29 | Adys | what did you expect |
| 06:33.05 | Tekkub | hrm... so I got Cork 3.1-ified |
| 06:33.09 | Tekkub | now I need something to do |
| 06:33.26 | FordTimelord | BOSH BOSH BOSH!!! |
| 06:35.22 | Shirik | osh kosh bgosh |
| 06:35.57 | TehxDx | Ah |
| 06:36.15 | TehxDx | Frame:SetText() |
| 06:36.22 | TehxDx | Thanks Arrow for linking me |
| 06:36.27 | TehxDx | Took abit to find it |
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| 06:46.00 | Wobin | about 11pm |
| 06:46.22 | FordTimelord | .. master |
| 06:46.30 | FordTimelord | http://tomrobinson.com/wordpress/?page_id=52 |
| 06:46.36 | FordTimelord | \o/ |
| 06:49.29 | Shirik | why beat bleeter :( |
| 06:49.39 | Shirik | oh, FordTimelord |
| 06:49.46 | Cairenn | because I thought he was some spammer and was about to kickban him |
| 06:49.46 | FordTimelord | why you be beatin' on Ms. Wynett's (briefly rented) car? :( |
| 06:50.09 | Shirik | we can kickban him anyway |
| 06:50.10 | FordTimelord | Cairenn: I'm still back in today's earlier convo about 80's and 90's music :P |
| 06:50.10 | Shirik | it's ok |
| 06:50.14 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:50.20 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-v FordTimelord] by Shirik |
| 06:50.28 | Cairenn | awww, no |
| 06:50.40 | bleeter | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdTELokKfCk |
| 06:50.44 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-v bleeter] by Shirik |
| 06:51.04 | gitfinger | remember it cair? |
| 06:51.09 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-v gitfinger] by Shirik |
| 06:51.13 | Shirik | how the hell many names do you have |
| 06:51.17 | Cairenn | ummmm, no? |
| 06:51.28 | Shirik | wtf >< |
| 06:51.28 | cunningstunt | Shirik: I had to remove some earlier |
| 06:51.32 | Shirik | and why do you keep changing >< |
| 06:51.34 | cunningstunt | caused an overflow nick error |
| 06:51.54 | Cairenn | bleeter, make damn sure you don't misspell that :p |
| 06:52.08 | Shirik | I think it is inherently a misspelling |
| 06:52.09 | cunningstunt | Cairenn: Kenny Everrett ;) |
| 06:52.16 | Cairenn | or I /WILL/ kickban you :p |
| 06:52.31 | CupidStunt | more fond of this one tho |
| 06:52.57 | Shirik | I think Cairenn is going to kill you :P |
| 06:53.23 | CupidStunt | cmon the girl deserves a .... well I was going to say a 'good lol'... hmmm |
| 06:53.35 | Corrodias | she WILL love you tender, love you sweet |
| 06:53.45 | CupidStunt | anwyays, she's been stressed. hopefully it kinda amuses her a li'l |
| 06:54.03 | GagHalfrunt | Bleeter's just this guy, you know? |
| 06:54.56 | Cairenn | that was a very odd video, bleeter |
| 06:54.57 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:55.06 | Cairenn | and no, I really don't remember it |
| 06:55.36 | bleeter | Dr WHo prolly wasn't big in canada in the 80's like in UK/AU/NZ |
| 06:56.09 | bleeter | absolute classic song, though, written by the guys who wrote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manual |
| 06:56.14 | bleeter | and that book does work! |
| 06:56.29 | Adys | http://gyu.que.jp/jscloth/touch.html |
| 06:56.30 | Adys | that |
| 06:56.33 | Adys | is amazingly fast |
| 06:56.56 | bleeter | Cairenn: what, don't like new Dr Who or Dr Who at all? :P |
| 06:57.27 | bleeter | ouchies.. |
| 06:57.32 | bleeter | CAR HATES ALL DR WHO!!! |
| 06:57.40 | Cairenn | nope, didn't say that |
| 06:57.47 | bleeter | Shirik: it's not me you should be kick banning! |
| 06:58.01 | Shirik | who should I be? |
| 06:58.03 | Adys | ~whaledalek bleeter |
| 06:58.53 | Wobin | Doctor who doctor whoooo! |
| 06:59.16 | Wobin | I remember it! |
| 06:59.16 | bleeter | BOSH BOSH BOSH!!! |
| 07:00.14 | bleeter | Wobin: remember http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Foundation_Burn_a_Million_Quid |
| 07:00.51 | bleeter | By 2004, however, he had admitted to the BBC that he now regretted burning the money.[3] "It's a hard one to explain to your kids and it doesn't get any easier. I wish I could explain why I did it so people would understand." |
| 07:00.55 | bleeter | lolol |
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| 07:03.30 | Adys | firefox is frustrating |
| 07:04.22 | Cairenn | I believe the technical term would probably be "a fuck load" |
| 07:04.39 | Adys | thats more a theoretical term than a technical term |
| 07:04.41 | Adys | dont you think?! |
| 07:05.26 | bleeter | doesn't matter, it was all burned for the sake of art |
| 07:05.33 | bleeter | or for the sake of whatever they were on at the time |
| 07:05.34 | kd3 | whee, wootoff today |
| 07:05.45 | kd3 | wonder if they're gonna do anything interesting for a change |
| 07:09.32 | Codayus | bleeter: US$2.4m more or less, at current exchange rates. |
| 07:12.25 | Thunder_Child | ahhhh...dont tell me that kd3, i wanted sleep |
| 07:14.56 | Tekkub | okey, wowhead item weight scores *really* help with the flood of quest reward gear in norfrend |
| 07:16.30 | Tekkub | especially when you've got 3 different specs |
| 07:16.36 | Tekkub | damn pallies |
| 07:18.33 | bleeter | Wobin: I've gotta ask you now.. who do you think of when I now say the word 'Moo'? |
| 07:18.40 | Wobin | >< |
| 07:18.50 | bleeter | trust me, it'll stick with you :) |
| 07:19.01 | Wobin | I'm going to have to find another name to use with that |
| 07:19.18 | bleeter | hey |
| 07:19.20 | bleeter | I just noticed |
| 07:19.30 | bleeter | that WoW is (C)2004-08, but built in '09 WHAT? :P |
| 07:21.56 | Tekkub | uh, we haven't gotten a major patch in '09, so they're probably not updated the copyright yet |
| 07:22.23 | bleeter | not exactly rocket surgery to link that '08 field into the build year, surely? ;) |
| 07:22.43 | bleeter | I note M$'s 'solution' to the date decay issue was to remove it entirely, and just have (C) MS |
| 07:22.48 | Tekkub | uh, you would think that |
| 07:23.12 | Tekkub | well the date, just like the entire notice, is optional |
| 07:23.25 | bleeter | but blizz have this 'nasty' habit of not handling dates and times at all well, all over the place |
| 07:23.33 | bleeter | the EU guys must get super shitty |
| 07:23.41 | Shirik | ok |
| 07:23.44 | Shirik | I go sleep now |
| 07:23.45 | Shirik | baibai |
| 07:23.54 | bleeter | STAYIN ALIIIIVEEE!!!! |
| 07:23.54 | Cairenn | sweet dreams Shirik |
| 07:24.00 | bleeter | rest well Shirik, mate :) |
| 07:24.14 | Shirik | wait a second |
| 07:24.19 | Thunder_Child | ~no Shirik |
| 07:24.31 | Thunder_Child | damit purl, you failed me yet again |
| 07:24.32 | Shirik | bleeter |
| 07:24.41 | Shirik | what kind of access do you have to Norgs' projects? |
| 07:24.55 | Shirik | you're an admin no? |
| 07:24.59 | Thunder_Child | ~literal quote |
| 07:24.59 | purl | "quote" is "a way to eat someone" |
| 07:25.17 | Tekkub | bleeter, and uhm, they're on SVN right, so a keyword would only update if they touched the file anyway |
| 07:25.24 | Thunder_Child | ~literal CMD:Quote (.*?) |
| 07:25.28 | Tekkub | and yes, PTR's dates are right |
| 07:25.33 | Tekkub | like I said, major patch :P |
| 07:25.33 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: I'm pretty sure quote is a built-in command |
| 07:25.45 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 07:26.12 | bleeter | Shirik: check /msg |
| 07:26.17 | Thunder_Child | ~quote Shirik |
| 07:26.27 | Thunder_Child | oh lol |
| 07:26.29 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 07:26.34 | bleeter | dunno about admin.. 'something' |
| 07:26.42 | Thunder_Child | stock |
| 07:26.45 | bleeter | NA NA NA NA.. STAYIN ALIIIIIIVEEEVEVEEEE |
| 07:26.48 | Shirik | Oh |
| 07:26.54 | Shirik | ~quote DJIA |
| 07:26.55 | bleeter | SOMEBODY HELP ME YEAHAAHA |
| 07:26.59 | Shirik | :/ |
| 07:27.03 | Shirik | ~quote BBY |
| 07:27.21 | Shirik | oh they renamed it |
| 07:27.24 | Shirik | ~quote DJI |
| 07:27.29 | Shirik | wtf! |
| 07:27.32 | Shirik | stop being stupid! |
| 07:27.38 | bleeter | go to bed |
| 07:27.58 | Shirik | ~quote DJX |
| 07:28.04 | Shirik | :( |
| 07:28.09 | Thunder_Child | ~DJ |
| 07:28.10 | purl | one of the most prominant free software developers around, brian behlendorf, is a DJ. He is one of the core developers of apache. And now as a sidelight to DJ'ing and doing apache work, does sourceXchange.com. Djibouti |
| 07:28.14 | Thunder_Child | ~quote DJ |
| 07:28.15 | Shirik | ~quote THE DAMN DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE FFS |
| 07:28.16 | bleeter | Tekkub: wait? Blizz are on SVN? You sure? Smells like still on CVS to me ;) :P |
| 07:28.31 | bleeter | really must dash |
| 07:28.33 | bleeter | ttfn |
| 07:28.38 | Tekkub | could be that too, but I think someone said they were on SVN |
| 07:29.35 | Shirik | ok night for reals |
| 07:35.56 | Fisker- | what are you going to do about it? |
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| 07:42.04 | Thunder_Child | ~shirik++ |
| 07:46.19 | Wobin | bleeter: Just thinking, KLF has a lot of 'moo' (or 'mu') related songs. ObscureTaurenName could be pulled from there |
| 07:47.09 | Wobin | All bound for mumu land |
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| 07:49.32 | Tekkub | A1 makes everything better |
| 07:49.43 | Corrodias | black pepper does -that-. |
| 07:50.13 | Wobin | hehe, there are two guilds named "Justified and Ancient" |
| 07:52.20 | Tekkub | that name sucks |
| 07:52.22 | Tekkub | you suck |
| 07:52.24 | Tekkub | I hate you |
| 07:56.59 | TehxDx | Thanks for the help Guys, Arrow pointed me to the info I needed. I am getting off for the night. Have a great night/day. |
| 07:57.34 | Thunder_Child | it's night! |
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| 08:10.44 | Wobin | Tekkub: You hate me cause I suck? |
| 08:10.51 | Tekkub | sure |
| 08:11.10 | Wobin | You're just jealous |
| 08:11.31 | Tekkub | nope, I have my perfect guild name already |
| 08:11.37 | Tekkub | <Thirteen Inches> |
| 08:12.06 | Aiiane | http://hehe2.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/anime-linux-distros.png |
| 08:12.34 | Wobin | hm |
| 08:12.42 | Wobin | tekticles is making cork look odd |
| 08:12.46 | Tekkub | why is ubuntu floating? |
| 08:12.49 | Tekkub | and gentoo? |
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| 08:13.37 | Tekkub | and for that matter, why does linux come with a staff? mine didn't |
| 08:15.58 | zenzio | I like Slackware in that picture |
| 08:18.21 | Aiiane | Tekkub: you forgot "apt-get staff" |
| 08:18.53 | Gngsk | staff would take all the fun out of linux |
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| 08:21.20 | zenzio | those aren't staves, they're pipes |
| 08:21.28 | Wraithan | Pacman -Sy staff |
| 08:26.38 | Gngsk | archalious |
| 08:26.43 | Gngsk | licious too |
| 08:39.56 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, so your guild is all about lies? |
| 08:53.05 | End | ZOMG DATA ACCESS ERROR? |
| 08:53.24 | End | oh wait, that was a different error that time |
| 08:57.01 | Cairenn | stupid forums are stupid |
| 08:57.01 | zenzio | can't fault that logic |
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| 09:03.46 | Sixen | =/ |
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| 09:29.46 | Cairenn | I can't get over the number of people bitching about the donation overlay |
| 09:30.01 | Cairenn | if you don't want to see it, turn it off, sheesh |
| 09:30.26 | Elkano | donation overlay? |
| 09:30.33 | nevcairiel | people bitch at everything |
| 09:30.39 | Cairenn | Elkano: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21403 |
| 09:30.57 | nevcairiel | i really like it, its subtle enough to not be annoying, but still obvious |
| 09:31.35 | Cairenn | nod |
| 09:31.45 | Cairenn | I thought Dolby did a really good job with them |
| 09:33.30 | Elkano | hmm... in all those years I've been coding for WoW I've only recived 2 donations so far :/ |
| 09:33.45 | nevcairiel | I got one in all my time |
| 09:33.53 | nevcairiel | in the last week, i got 2 |
| 09:33.59 | nevcairiel | we need more drama, imho |
| 09:34.04 | Elkano | what did you change? |
| 09:34.08 | nevcairiel | nothing |
| 09:34.12 | Elkano | hmm |
| 09:34.26 | Elkano | I just noticed the option to show donation buttons on wowace though ^^ |
| 09:34.53 | nevcairiel | I've had those for ever now. They are working on showing the button directly on curse too |
| 09:36.13 | Elkano | yeah, curse used to have buttons. maybe they should add them into CC, too |
| 09:37.03 | nevcairiel | we've suggested that to kaelten, who knows if the bosses agree |
| 09:38.36 | Elkano | well, with CC nearing release tomorrow, maybe they'll launch premium, soon |
| 09:39.27 | nevcairiel | the CC final was released |
| 09:39.31 | nevcairiel | last friday |
| 09:39.54 | nevcairiel | the windows version, anyway |
| 09:39.56 | nevcairiel | Mac is still beta |
| 09:42.07 | bleeter | Wobin: well I named a toon on frostmorne for the group.. but it was (as you've indicated) the wrong race |
| 09:42.36 | Elkano | oh, I thought it would be this friday ^^ |
| 09:45.38 | bleeter | um oh um.. hmmm |
| 09:45.47 | bleeter | nah |
| 09:45.48 | bleeter | oh |
| 09:45.49 | bleeter | hmmm |
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| 09:47.22 | Adys_ | Cairenn: OMG KILL IT WITH FIRE NOW |
| 09:47.28 | Adys_ | (done bitching, back to work) |
| 09:48.54 | bleeter | Listen to the ground, there's movement all around |
| 09:50.58 | bleeter | Cairenn: you should be dancin' |
| 09:51.01 | bleeter | YEAH |
| 09:51.12 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:51.26 | bleeter | <sup>whatchyadoinonyerback?</sup> |
| 09:52.34 | bleeter | still get me lol'ing when this tune is played on kids type shows |
| 09:52.44 | bleeter | HELLO FOLKS DOUBLE ENTENDRE |
| 09:53.53 | Cairenn | bleeter: :( |
| 09:54.16 | bleeter | yar I know, I had no answer |
| 09:59.30 | Cairenn | bleeter: we're doing what we can :( |
| 10:03.37 | bleeter | Cairenn: I know that. what would you have me do, though, to query blizz? so far all I've seen is a bunch of people state that wowui@blizzard.com is an bitbucket redirected to /dev/null [that doesn't acknowledge receipt in the way other (randomly selected) @blizzard.com emails do]? |
| 10:03.57 | Cairenn | I don't know =/ |
| 10:04.06 | bleeter | Cairenn: it's actually a question in blizz's favour. what's to stop collective addon authors setting up addon distro sites and working stuff that way to get their $$ for distro costs |
| 10:04.21 | bleeter | in an attempt to circumvent this policy |
| 10:04.55 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 10:05.27 | Arrowmaster | well for one they wouldnt be able to pay for it once wowmatrix started leeching from it |
| 10:06.10 | Cairenn | :) |
| 10:06.27 | Cairenn | okay, passing out time |
| 10:06.31 | Cairenn | night guys :) |
| 10:07.35 | Arrowmaster | bleeter: what method are they using to say that address doesnt acknowledge receipt? |
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| 10:09.23 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: eh yer right I should dang well git off my bum and test it rather than taking other people's word for it... |
| 10:12.13 | Arrowmaster | i would find it silly if blizz actually allowed its email system to send receive recipts |
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| 10:20.44 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: huh? you email wowgm-us@blizzard.com or whatever it is and they send you the corporate spiel as the receipt. not that much privacy involved there |
| 10:21.16 | bleeter | feedback something or other |
| 10:21.30 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 10:21.44 | Arrowmaster | so its just an autoresponder |
| 10:22.15 | bleeter | oh did I indicate MDN/DSN? my bads soz |
| 10:22.44 | bleeter | nm :) |
| 10:22.57 | Arrowmaster | thats hardly enough to think the wowui address is being bitbucketed |
| 10:23.09 | bleeter | I can see how one could read that meaning |
| 10:25.48 | bleeter | out in a folder to be pulled out in 6 months time when the legal review is due? may as well be dev/nulled |
| 10:26.09 | bleeter | ... |
| 10:26.33 | bleeter | one of these outs don't belong here... |
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| 11:25.34 | Wobin | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8oma9_warp-whistle_shortfilms |
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| 11:41.02 | DWSR | lol wobin |
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| 11:59.33 | selckin | nice try, but so fail |
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| 12:16.23 | alestane | Two years later and people still don't understand /castsequence. |
| 12:17.10 | nevcairiel | castsequence is srs business |
| 12:21.37 | zenzio | HOW I CAN MAKE DECURSIV IN CASTSEQUENCE PLZZ?? |
| 12:22.11 | zenzio | that was too much for poor Gnarfoz |
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| 12:28.23 | DWSR | lol |
| 12:28.39 | nevcairiel | gnarfoz is sensitive, don't scare him like that |
| 12:28.48 | DWSR | /castsequence is so useful for arena prep. |
| 12:28.53 | DWSR | Just sit there and spam it and bam I'm set |
| 12:29.55 | zenzio | I still, vaguely, remember what it was like to be a fixer in Anarchy Online before a raid; everyone wanting all sorts of buffs from me. Then I started playing a warrior in WoW, and all I had to do was shout |
| 12:30.16 | nevcairiel | warriors are slackers |
| 12:30.27 | nevcairiel | usually even too lazy to eat, and expect heals |
| 12:30.37 | zenzio | we're not too lazy to eat |
| 12:30.49 | zenzio | it's just that we take three freaking stacks to heal completely |
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| 12:31.11 | zenzio | though for DPSers there's little excuse |
| 12:31.17 | nevcairiel | like my 25k mana is full sooner =P |
| 12:31.39 | zenzio | nevcairiel: I wouldn't know, I don't play mana classes \o/ |
| 12:32.16 | zenzio | but being a tank, whenever I do bandage or sit down to eat, someone will heal me up before the second tick anyway |
| 12:32.35 | zenzio | <-- spoiled brat |
| 12:38.33 | Wobin | It's because if something goes wrong, like a patrol, we're the only thing between the squishies and regenning their mana |
| 12:39.14 | DWSR | It's funny when the rogues in your raid can survive less damage than you can |
| 12:39.17 | DWSR | and you're a warlock |
| 12:41.22 | Arrowmaster | zenzio: i had a froob fixer in AO didnt get much past lvl 60 i think but it was perty fun |
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| 12:42.23 | cncfanatics | mm, did blizz announce a 3.1 release date already ? |
| 12:42.44 | nevcairiel | no |
| 12:42.48 | Arrowmaster | you should know better than to think blizz announces release dates |
| 12:43.07 | cncfanatics | true |
| 12:49.56 | theorbtwo | Sigh, I want my damn ammo stacking already... |
| 12:52.46 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio. |
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| 13:08.26 | alestane | Level 61 and still finishing off my heavy mageweave bandages. |
| 13:09.05 | Lopeppeppy | Mageweave is hard to come by. You have to go rampage among the pirates in Tanaris, I find. |
| 13:09.23 | Maldivia | I find the ogres in tanaris better |
| 13:09.35 | Lopeppeppy | They hit hard! |
| 13:09.36 | alestane | That's a good place. Feralas isn't bad, Alterac Mountains. |
| 13:10.20 | Maldivia | well, I always prefer melee classes since I prefer to play casters |
| 13:10.54 | DWSR | the trolls in the Hinterlands are good |
| 13:11.06 | DWSR | Especially the used-to-be-elite Troll city. |
| 13:11.20 | Lopeppeppy | I prefer dry warm places. *sniff* |
| 13:12.03 | alestane | They are nice. Get the beach blankets! |
| 13:14.27 | nevcairiel | tanaris is too dry for me |
| 13:14.36 | nevcairiel | I can't carry that much water |
| 13:14.58 | Maldivia | have a mage friend then, heh |
| 13:17.01 | Lopeppeppy | For serious! |
| 13:24.20 | zenzio | <alestane> Level 61 and still finishing off my heavy mageweave bandages. <--- sounds like, well, both when BC and WotLK went live, and I was stuck with hundreds and hundreds of bandages that healed me for next to nothing |
| 13:24.29 | zenzio | another drawback to having a high health pool |
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| 13:29.09 | alestane | This is a mage, so he actually uses them quite a bit. Part of the reason he has so many because the druid and the pally sent them to him while they were raising FA. |
| 13:29.18 | zenzio | aha |
| 13:30.16 | zenzio | when I was leveling my first warrior (my first character actually), I had some use for bandages, so I developed a habit of always keeping eight stacks of bandages on me. The habit is with me to this day; but since BC I don't think I ever used up my initial eight stacks |
| 13:30.47 | Lopeppeppy | I keep 1 stack on me, but I'm a healer and I just heal myself. |
| 13:30.55 | Lopeppeppy | I therefore have 3 stacks of water instead. :) |
| 13:31.21 | zenzio | after I got Enraged Regeneration, I barely ever touch bandages |
| 13:31.57 | alestane | Starting to find this Fel Spirits quest kind of a pain on my mage |
| 13:32.08 | alestane | Mostly because I hate mobs that charge. |
| 13:32.29 | Lopeppeppy | Passionately hate those. |
| 13:32.42 | alestane | "I'm gonna close with you instantly even though I'm slow and knock you out of your fireball!: |
| 13:33.18 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR! |
| 13:33.32 | Maldivia | alestane: since you know it, just cast instant/fast cast spells :9 |
| 13:33.59 | alestane | Well, yes, but this is a strategy I've built up through the last 25 levels or so, and now it doesn't work :( |
| 13:35.35 | Maldivia | l2p !11!1 :) |
| 13:35.48 | alestane | Don't worry, I am. |
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| 13:38.16 | Maldivia | I just picked up my priest yesterday, having having stayed on level 60 for almost 2½ years... that was a bit weird :) |
| 13:38.36 | Lopeppeppy | I'm going to be leveling my priest next, I think. |
| 13:38.40 | Lopeppeppy | Or my Peppy rogue! |
| 13:38.42 | Lopeppeppy | Not sure. |
| 13:38.46 | Lopeppeppy | I'll have to consult with Lunessa. |
| 13:39.57 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1O2jcfOylU :D |
| 13:40.43 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Ever tanked at all? I'm still trying to learn myself. |
| 13:40.53 | alestane | Well, besides ret tanking for my warlock. |
| 13:41.12 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, I have done some druid tanking with Kammie, she's... 47? |
| 13:42.06 | Maldivia | imho, tanking really isn't hard, as long as there's only one mob, the problem starts with multiple mobs, and the dps picking random targets :) |
| 13:42.21 | Lopeppeppy | Die DPS, die! |
| 13:43.20 | alestane | Seems like both tanks and healers hate DPS. |
| 13:43.32 | Maldivia | I think the mobs do as well |
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| 13:43.57 | zenzio | I don't hate DPS. I hate DPS who think they don't need to make an effort to stay alive |
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| 13:44.21 | Maldivia | so 95% of the dps |
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| 13:44.25 | Lopeppeppy | I hate DPS who don't use potions or bandages and expect me to heal them through everything, AND after fights. |
| 13:44.42 | Lothaer | sup guys |
| 13:45.02 | alestane | As oppsoed to the DPS who wish you'd let them use up their food? |
| 13:45.11 | Lopeppeppy | Food, bandages, what the hell, people. |
| 13:45.19 | Lopeppeppy | Use your friggin' healthstones, would ya? |
| 13:45.25 | [draco] | ooc? |
| 13:45.30 | zenzio | the DPS that *really* tick me off are the ones that go "zomg calm down already" when I shout at them for making it hard to keep them alive, and then go whine when they do die |
| 13:45.31 | [draco] | better dont |
| 13:46.12 | alestane | But every time I try to fill up after fight, Peppy, you heal me before I finish! |
| 13:46.24 | Lopeppeppy | I tell them flat out if I notice them not using potions/bandages/food/stones, I will not heal 'em. :) |
| 13:46.40 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, there's a difference between a leveling partner and and an entire RAID. :P |
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| 13:47.22 | [draco] | pots and stones are for emergencies |
| 13:49.37 | Lopeppeppy | They're not for ignoring. |
| 13:50.34 | alestane | My old raid leader used to be all about "Bring a stack of Whipper Root, get healthstones from the loacks, anything you can do to take the pressure off the healers." |
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| 13:50.52 | [draco] | they aren't... but they aren't for topping your HP after an AoE, either |
| 13:51.29 | zenzio | why not? |
| 13:51.41 | Lopeppeppy | Locks make more cookies, and shards are much more available now. |
| 13:51.43 | zenzio | they're more likely to save you at 50% than at 5% |
| 13:51.49 | [draco] | because that isn't an emergency |
| 13:51.57 | Lopeppeppy | Why would you NOT use a cookie during a fight, instead of bitching at the healers? |
| 13:52.13 | [draco] | Lopeppeppy: no argument to be made there |
| 13:52.19 | Lopeppeppy | You bitch at me, when you have a cookie in inventory, I'm just going to laugh at you. Healers help those who help themselves. |
| 13:52.30 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not saying use them after a fight, use bandages and food then. |
| 13:52.41 | mikma | STOP! hammerzeit. i'll eat the cookies and problem solved. |
| 13:53.29 | zenzio | how much does the biggest healthstone heal these days, 2500? |
| 13:53.38 | zenzio | 4000? |
| 13:53.45 | nevcairiel | skilled 5.1 iir |
| 13:53.46 | [draco] | 5136 |
| 13:53.47 | nevcairiel | *iirc |
| 13:54.53 | zenzio | so that's a couple of trash hits, half a boss hit, two ticks of some AoE. You'd still have to pray your healers could save you if you used it when you were already at low health |
| 13:55.22 | nevcairiel | For tanks the cookies are not that good, but for non-tanks in random AoE situations, they are essential |
| 13:55.36 | [draco] | trash hits: you die anyway, your fault for aggroing. boss hit: same |
| 13:55.43 | mikma | HS + Potion combined = lots and lots of emergency hp |
| 13:55.48 | alestane | Laughing Skull Boot of the Invoker...just one? |
| 13:56.09 | [draco] | what he said |
| 13:56.18 | zenzio | the other skull wasn't laughing afte seeing the first one get turned into a boot |
| 13:56.21 | zenzio | *after |
| 13:56.29 | theorbtwo | zenzio++ |
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| 13:56.56 | Lopeppeppy | For very serious. |
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| 14:11.19 | Lothaer | sup cnc |
| 14:12.40 | cncfanatics | mmm, I'm doing random stuff atm |
| 14:12.45 | cncfanatics | WTB more raids |
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| 15:58.56 | cog|work | Esamynn|Away: problem with coltran... no long range scanner = no worldssm script :P |
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| 17:36.00 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, yes, spacing colonists would be evil. |
| 17:36.06 | Lopeppeppy | purl, welcome back |
| 17:36.07 | purl | back, Sup yo? |
| 17:36.14 | cog|work | purl: no u! |
| 17:37.03 | nevcairiel | ~botsnack |
| 17:37.03 | purl | nevcairiel: thanks |
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| 17:38.58 | kneeki | Is it possible to call a function from within a table? or have the table refrense a function? |
| 17:39.29 | Shirik | you do it all the time, actually |
| 17:39.39 | kneeki | oh? |
| 17:39.40 | Aiiane | tablename["membername"](arg1, arg2, etc) |
| 17:39.43 | Shirik | every time you do frame:SetWidth(), you just called a function in a table |
| 17:39.49 | kneeki | Hmm |
| 17:39.52 | Aiiane | or tablename.membername(arg1, arg2, etc) |
| 17:39.54 | ScytheBlade1 | .... |
| 17:40.05 | Aiiane | also, technically any global call is calling a function from a table |
| 17:40.10 | ScytheBlade1 | nuking my own planet only lost me 1 alignment |
| 17:40.12 | Aiiane | the table in question just happens to be _G |
| 17:40.19 | Shirik | wtf is wrong with you ScytheBlade1 >< |
| 17:40.21 | mikma | so anyone ever noticed that your character sometimes gets stuck in autorun with no reason? |
| 17:40.24 | mikma | like in my case |
| 17:40.25 | Shirik | you don't blow planets to lose alignment |
| 17:40.29 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: well it was *your* planet after all |
| 17:40.32 | Shirik | way too expensive |
| 17:40.46 | Shirik | if you have that money to blow, then go to the underground and post bounties |
| 17:40.47 | mikma | i usually run either with move forward -keybind or by pressing both mousekeys down |
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| 17:41.02 | cog|work | Shirik: i think he meant his starter planet |
| 17:41.04 | mikma | sometimes the char just bugs and continues running eventho i let go of the buttons |
| 17:41.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed I did |
| 17:41.13 | cog|work | now we've got some random navhaz somewhere in the universe >< |
| 17:41.20 | Shirik | yay |
| 17:41.32 | ronghail | that happens to me multiboxing all the time. usually when there is a big bad mob right in front of us |
| 17:41.35 | Shirik | Well at least it's not as bad as when Esamynn decides to blow 50 planets in the same sector |
| 17:42.01 | Lopeppeppy | *cough, choke, wheeze* |
| 17:42.14 | Shirik | pats Lopeppeppy on the back |
| 17:42.50 | durcyn | i've only noticed that with the flying machine daily quest in fjord, mikma |
| 17:43.00 | durcyn | autorun sticks until you log out sometimes |
| 17:43.50 | mikma | well this has been happening me since Open Beta :D never find out what causes it |
| 17:44.09 | nevcairiel | your buttons are broken? |
| 17:44.31 | kneeki | So, if i did 'test = { ['Blah'] = MyFunc, } function = MyFunc(args) print(args) end', and called it with something like: 'local callFunc = test['Blah']', it should just print "test", right? |
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| 17:46.00 | Shirik | that's... not legal |
| 17:46.08 | Shirik | and no |
| 17:46.13 | ScytheBlade1 | SIGH |
| 17:46.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh well, that is why I have my money in my bank |
| 17:46.48 | Shirik | function MyFunc(args) print(args) end; test = {['Blah'] = MyFunc}; test['Blah']("test"); |
| 17:46.52 | mikma | nevcairiel: yeah, my buttons are broken in 4 different pc ;) |
| 17:46.53 | Shirik | That will do what you wanted |
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| 17:47.00 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: You are so full of win |
| 17:47.10 | Shirik | I see I have nothing to worry about with you lowly gnomes as my only enemy |
| 17:47.11 | kneeki | Shirik: thanks =) |
| 17:47.27 | mikma | nevcairiel: err, 3 different pc + 1 mac |
| 17:47.32 | Shirik | be sure you define the function first |
| 17:47.36 | Shirik | otherwise you're just setting nil inside the table |
| 17:47.52 | Shirik | gotta go |
| 17:47.54 | cog|work | Shirik: you might be a bit ph3arful of my fully loaded IC ;) |
| 17:48.05 | Shirik | nah |
| 17:48.16 | ScytheBlade1 | boo have to close my laptop |
| 17:48.17 | ScytheBlade1 | qq |
| 17:48.17 | Shirik | it'll go kablooie soon enough |
| 17:48.19 | ScytheBlade1 | back later |
| 17:50.26 | Zyndrome | http://farewell.filefront.com/ , aw poo |
| 17:51.18 | Gnarfoz | I'd have said "april fool's", if they'd said "on the 31st" |
| 17:53.32 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, suckage Zyndrome. |
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| 18:29.17 | [Ammo] | anyone that can answer some questions about the new [paypal][/paypal] button options in wowi, my questions is: I don't think I can save my button_id when I don't upgrade my paypal account to a business account, how do I use it now ? |
| 18:30.58 | kneeki | [Ammo]: I was wondering that as well |
| 18:31.13 | [Ammo] | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=122574&postcount=29 someone else as well |
| 18:32.12 | [Ammo] | you can at least apply for a business ccount and not complete it to get it to work it sems |
| 18:32.36 | Cairenn | Dolby is trying to figure that out, so any info you guys can give him would be helpful :) |
| 18:32.51 | [Ammo] | well basically you just apply for business but never complete it :) |
| 18:32.58 | Cairenn | :p |
| 18:33.31 | Cairenn | that wasn't what I meant and well you know it, smartass ;) |
| 18:34.10 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 18:34.15 | [Ammo] | it's what I'm doing |
| 18:34.19 | Cairenn | tickles [Ammo] |
| 18:34.20 | [Ammo] | this ain't a business and it never will be |
| 18:35.17 | Cairenn | lego has also been helping dolby figure out the non-north america stuff, so when he's around he can possibly help you as well |
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| 18:35.30 | [Ammo] | that part isn't a problem |
| 18:35.34 | [Ammo] | it's just the saved buttons part :) |
| 18:35.40 | Cairenn | that's what I meant :p |
| 18:35.45 | [Ammo] | which is only there if you register as a business |
| 18:36.17 | Cairenn | errr, or not, so ignore me |
| 18:36.36 | Cairenn | Dolby says I'm an idiot (although worded nicer than that) ;) |
| 18:36.46 | Cairenn | which is true :) |
| 18:37.37 | [Ammo] | "You just upgraded your Paypal account to a business account" |
| 18:37.38 | [Ammo] | yay |
| 18:37.46 | Cairenn | heh |
| 18:39.11 | Dashkal | Cairenn: <3 The white noise generator you pointed me to has saved me from so many damn migraine pills. |
| 18:39.13 | [Ammo] | works :) |
| 18:39.23 | Cairenn | Dashkal: yay |
| 18:39.34 | [Ammo] | Better Inbox now spams the users with a zomg you should really be donating |
| 18:39.59 | [Ammo] | and the donation link posts to Ammo's AddOns |
| 18:40.03 | [Ammo] | so works fine in EU |
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| 18:40.21 | [Ammo] | thanks for that feature btw |
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| 18:43.48 | Cairenn | you're welcome :) |
| 18:43.52 | Cairenn | doing what we can |
| 18:43.57 | Cairenn | suggestions always welcome |
| 18:44.28 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 18:44.28 | Cairenn | Dolby got it all in place after the policy went up by Blizz on Friday, around his other job |
| 18:44.36 | Cairenn | I'm not sure how much he slept at all |
| 18:44.43 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 18:45.09 | [Ammo] | Just add the you have to upgrade to a business account which is no big deal in europe to the policy |
| 18:45.14 | [Ammo] | or to the FAQ I mean |
| 18:45.18 | malreth | honestly... and i really mean this... the WoW UI Dev community is one of the most helpful, creative, and determined bunch. |
| 18:45.19 | [Ammo] | it's confusing atm |
| 18:46.23 | nevcairiel | I was able to do all that with a private account |
| 18:46.24 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 18:46.57 | nevcairiel | maybe differs from country to country |
| 18:47.47 | AckisWork | I had to go with a premium acct I think |
| 18:48.23 | Cairenn | it does seem to differ from country to country, probably having to do with the varied laws |
| 18:49.13 | Cairenn | North America has three options for account type |
| 18:49.22 | Cairenn | Personal, Premier and Business |
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| 18:50.56 | Cairenn | https://www.paypal.com/ca/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_registration-run |
| 18:53.37 | Cairenn | I wonder if you guys using Pledgie to set it up will work as a work around? |
| 18:53.56 | Cairenn | since it's basically just a front end for Paypal |
| 18:54.46 | AckisWork | Cairenn: yes it was |
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| 19:00.41 | Tekkub | *pokes jnwhiteh* |
| 19:01.02 | Tekkub | so clitter cladder, there gonna be auto-profile swapping in clique with 3.1 and dual spec? |
| 19:02.57 | Lopeppeppy | You'll be lucky if he doesn't kick you for that one... |
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| 19:04.08 | Dagmar | Just as long as he knows what server and toon name to put the new hooks into the code for |
| 19:18.04 | |Jelly| | cog|work: You made my week, aside from my new apartment. lol "You're comparing apples to circus clowns" I'm still laughing. |
| 19:19.31 | Lopeppeppy | New aparment is nice |
| 19:19.58 | cog|work | |Jelly|: the scary thing is how far the analogy goes... because circus clowns often juggle apples ;) |
| 19:23.11 | jnwhiteh | Tekkub: auto, not necessarily |
| 19:23.13 | jnwhiteh | swaps, yes. |
| 19:23.20 | jnwhiteh | they will be different click-sets |
| 19:23.22 | jnwhiteh | same as the others |
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| 19:23.40 | alestane | Dearest gods, what did I unleash upon the add-on community? |
| 19:24.07 | cog|work | alestane: YOU DID THIS?!?!?! |
| 19:24.08 | Fisker- | jnwhiteh |
| 19:24.10 | cog|work | j/k :P |
| 19:24.11 | Fisker- | can i invest your money? |
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| 19:24.45 | jnwhiteh | will you make me some and give it back to me? |
| 19:24.50 | jnwhiteh | i mean you can skim off the top |
| 19:25.04 | Fisker- | And it's gone! |
| 19:25.24 | malreth | alestane: what'd you do? |
| 19:26.02 | alestane | I attempted to formulate a sensible comparison to authors selling WoW add-ons. |
| 19:26.25 | Lopeppeppy | But no one wanted to be sensible yet. |
| 19:26.35 | alestane | I haven't read the thread since about page four, but it sounds like in the last 15 pages or so they've beaten the comparison completely senseless. |
| 19:26.42 | malreth | alestane: did you call them pimps? because that's what they totally are. pimps. |
| 19:26.54 | durcyn | i belive he called them carnies. |
| 19:26.57 | Tekkub | jnwhiteh, well you already have the profiles, I was just crious if you'd add a talent swap trigger is all :P |
| 19:26.59 | malreth | also, i need to say the word "cock" today. |
| 19:27.01 | malreth | Cock |
| 19:27.07 | Tekkub | I have the code for detecting a swap if you want it |
| 19:27.29 | jnwhiteh | mind emailing it to me? |
| 19:27.48 | Tekkub | let me rip it out of Cork down to it's essence |
| 19:27.52 | Tekkub | it's pretty easy to do |
| 19:28.49 | jnwhiteh | <3 |
| 19:29.10 | malreth | ugh... now i'm arguing against a climate change skeptic on twitter... i'm getting desperate |
| 19:29.41 | durcyn | malreth: call him a cock and be done with it, imo. |
| 19:29.48 | cog|work | malreth: climate change denier |
| 19:29.51 | cog|work | not skeptic |
| 19:29.52 | cog|work | :P |
| 19:30.02 | AckisWork | cog|work: global warming is a myth like the g-spot! |
| 19:30.21 | cog|work | skeptics actually listen to evidence ;) |
| 19:30.21 | Tekkub | jnwhiteh, http://gist.github.com/86264 |
| 19:30.30 | malreth | cog|work: skeptopotamus |
| 19:30.33 | Tekkub | that is obviously using AceEvent3 for dispatch :P |
| 19:30.47 | malreth | they sit on evidence |
| 19:30.49 | jnwhiteh | easy enough |
| 19:30.55 | Tekkub | yup |
| 19:31.02 | jnwhiteh | the player must be out of combat to change specs, right> |
| 19:31.06 | Tekkub | yes |
| 19:31.30 | jnwhiteh | good good |
| 19:31.34 | Tekkub | you have to use PLAYER_LOGIN because the data is or isn't ready at load depending on login vs reload |
| 19:31.41 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 19:31.42 | Tekkub | but it's always there at PL |
| 19:32.38 | Tekkub | I already got quasi-profiles added to cork with this autoswitching, it's slick |
| 19:32.53 | Tekkub | player doesn't have to do anything, it just remembers their settings per-spec |
| 19:32.56 | jnwhiteh | I need to decide if I want to add shapeshift/stances as possible click-sets |
| 19:33.10 | jnwhiteh | and if so, figure out how I would od that |
| 19:33.13 | jnwhiteh | I don't think I can |
| 19:33.21 | jnwhiteh | which is whY i haven't. |
| 19:33.27 | Tekkub | why would you? you can switch in combat and you can write stance macros if you want different clicks |
| 19:33.31 | jnwhiteh | it would require me setting a new state parent on each button |
| 19:33.32 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 19:33.35 | jnwhiteh | that's what I figured |
| 19:33.36 | jnwhiteh | so the question is |
| 19:33.56 | jnwhiteh | do I have Primary Spec - Default Clicks, Secondary Spec - Default Clicks, Primary Spec - Out of combat, etc? |
| 19:33.58 | jnwhiteh | eight click sets? |
| 19:34.12 | Tekkub | honestly the only place I see myself using this will be if I go holy/disc on my priest |
| 19:34.26 | jnwhiteh | well no one has to use it =) |
| 19:34.29 | jnwhiteh | but i suspect I _should_ do it |
| 19:34.30 | Tekkub | yea |
| 19:34.51 | Tekkub | if it were me, I'd just let you assign a profile to a spec set |
| 19:35.00 | Tekkub | when you swap spec, do a profile switch |
| 19:35.27 | jnwhiteh | that's a bit confusing given the way clique works right now. |
| 19:35.29 | jnwhiteh | ponders |
| 19:35.36 | jnwhiteh | i like simplicity |
| 19:35.43 | jnwhiteh | but i dont know which is simpler :P |
| 19:35.52 | Tekkub | *shrug* seemed the simplest route to me |
| 19:36.17 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 19:36.21 | Lopeppeppy | I'm kind of liking Tekkub's idea, as a Clique-chick. |
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| 19:36.48 | Lopeppeppy | I'd prefer to have a profile for Holy, and a profile for Ret, and have to open the Clique tab to choose one. But that's just little moi. |
| 19:36.55 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: ping |
| 19:37.05 | jnwhiteh | just need to add an options screen to clique |
| 19:37.05 | Lopeppeppy | Ya pong, Shirik! |
| 19:37.10 | jnwhiteh | but that's long overdue |
| 19:37.14 | jnwhiteh | dunno what options to include |
| 19:37.37 | Tekkub | yea see, holy vs. ret I still use the same shits |
| 19:37.47 | Tekkub | but disc vs holy there's some spell differences |
| 19:37.59 | jnwhiteh | so assign a profile per spec |
| 19:38.00 | jnwhiteh | that's fine |
| 19:38.03 | Tekkub | yea |
| 19:38.11 | jnwhiteh | two dropdowns, done |
| 19:38.27 | Tekkub | I don't even know if I'll end up holy/disc or holy/shad |
| 19:38.37 | jnwhiteh | i'll be resto/balance :P |
| 19:38.45 | Tekkub | I want to toy with disc just to see what it's like |
| 19:38.57 | Tekkub | yea Trey'll be restobal |
| 19:39.03 | Tekkub | he never goes furry |
| 19:39.03 | jnwhiteh | one gear set |
| 19:39.04 | jnwhiteh | makes it nice |
| 19:39.19 | Tekkub | well, unless you go for hit on bal :p |
| 19:39.35 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 19:39.36 | jnwhiteh | but that's minor |
| 19:39.40 | jnwhiteh | same overall stats |
| 19:39.49 | jnwhiteh | need to buy new glyphs |
| 19:39.55 | Vangual | any sign of a macro conditional for activespecset yet? |
| 19:40.08 | Lopeppeppy | I've noticed my glyph of Blessing of Wisdom just isn't working anymore. *pouts* |
| 19:40.30 | Shirik | :( |
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| 19:41.09 | Fisker- | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:41.11 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 19:41.32 | Fisker- | Lopeppeppy as in the unintended way? |
| 19:41.33 | Shirik | I destroyed you last night |
| 19:41.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Kazie (n=k@port207.ds1-vg.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 19:42.01 | Fisker- | i don't know what side you're on but i'm on the server side |
| 19:42.35 | Kazie | Any Pitbull experts around? |
| 19:44.00 | Thunder_Child | how expert> |
| 19:44.05 | Thunder_Child | s/>/?/ |
| 19:44.42 | Kazie | Like.. if you know how to change the Aura(Buff/debuff) width for a certain frame, WITHOUT splitting buffs and debuffs. |
| 19:44.49 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker-, it's not extending the length of the blessing anymore. is very evil |
| 19:45.15 | Thunder_Child | Kazie, you mean strech out the aura image? |
| 19:45.25 | Thunder_Child | or scale it? |
| 19:45.49 | Thunder_Child | or change the distance between auras |
| 19:46.02 | Kazie | No.. the width of the "frame" .. like mine is going across my whole unit frame, when it should only exstend over 100 pixels. |
| 19:48.13 | Thunder_Child | have you streched out your frames width vs scaling? |
| 19:49.08 | Kazie | I just use width in others>Size |
| 19:51.15 | Fisker- | Lopeppeppy but you are aware that it was only supposed to extend your normal blessing of wisdom right? |
| 19:51.32 | Thunder_Child | hmm..well when i change the width of my frames the buffs are anchored to the left and the debuffs are anchored to the right...everything seems fine, still not sure what you want |
| 19:51.41 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, and I use that on myself while soloing so that I get the extension. Casting right out of the spellbook... nada. |
| 19:51.53 | Fisker- | awright then |
| 19:51.55 | Kazie | Thunder_Child: That's because you split them, i don't. |
| 19:52.41 | Thunder_Child | Kazie, Layout Editor -> Debuff Layout -> width/ width type |
| 19:52.57 | Thunder_Child | that might help |
| 19:53.04 | Thunder_Child | same for buff's |
| 19:53.13 | Kazie | Thunder_Child: Are you using P4? |
| 19:53.16 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 19:53.36 | Kazie | Thunder_Child: well maybe that's why .. Because i'm still using P3 duo to all the bugs in P4 :) |
| 19:53.39 | Kazie | hehe |
| 19:53.44 | Thunder_Child | i have ni bugs in p4 |
| 19:53.48 | Thunder_Child | no* |
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| 19:55.45 | malreth | Arguing with #tcot posters on twitter apparently encourages them to follow you... |
| 19:56.02 | End | they'll out you as a troll! |
| 19:56.05 | Kazie | Thunder_Child: really? |
| 19:56.18 | Kazie | Thunder_Child: Tried it a few weeks ago, and it messed something up on every target. |
| 19:56.25 | Dagmar | They know their own kind instinctively |
| 19:56.34 | alestane | I could really widh for <ins> and <del> tags on the PTR patch notes. |
| 19:56.40 | alestane | wish* |
| 19:56.46 | Thunder_Child | Kazie, yes, i have been using it for over a month now, and they update often...like once a day |
| 19:56.56 | malreth | i mean, it says right there on my bio that i'm "unapologetically liberal" |
| 19:57.10 | Kazie | Thunder_Child: Maybe i should try P4 again then, maybe they fixed a lot of the bugs i experienced. |
| 19:57.41 | Thunder_Child | Kazie, and if they didnt i woud suggest you leave a bug report, they are rather quick on the ball |
| 19:57.53 | Thunder_Child | granted i hate saying nice things about ckknight |
| 19:58.03 | ckknight | I love you, too, Thunder_Child |
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| 19:58.07 | Kazie | Thunder_Child: We all have to face our fears at some point ;) |
| 19:58.08 | Dagmar | malreth: In that case they're looking for you to say something liberal so they can call you names. |
| 19:58.15 | Dagmar | 'cuz that's what conservatives do. |
| 19:58.19 | Lopeppeppy | ta, beautiful people. Be excellent to each other. |
| 19:58.20 | cog|work | alestane: (old topic) I have to admit the phrase "what were you thinking?" crossed my mind when Ifirst saw your post :P |
| 19:58.21 | *** part/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@141.222.29.18) |
| 19:58.27 | Dagmar | At least, the ones that call themselves "conservatives" |
| 19:58.40 | Kazie | ckknight: Hey, hows P4 in the process of becoming a beta ? |
| 19:58.40 | ckknight | Thunder_Child, Kazie: call it PB4, not P4 |
| 19:58.50 | Kazie | okay PB4 :) |
| 19:58.57 | malreth | they don't have to follow me to read that... i openly hashtag my posts to end up on #tcot |
| 19:59.02 | alestane | cog|work: It's the only scenario I could come up with that was remotely relevant. |
| 19:59.12 | Dagmar | Kazie: I'd say it's useable now |
| 19:59.14 | ckknight | Kazie: set back since the UI policy came out, one of the co-developers is in a tiff about it. |
| 19:59.21 | ckknight | which is his prerogative |
| 19:59.24 | cog|work | not regarding the scenario itself |
| 19:59.46 | alestane | What was I thinking by posting anything at all and inviting response? |
| 19:59.56 | Thunder_Child | i call it "the frames that are almost as good as the discord unit frames addon" |
| 19:59.59 | Kazie | ckknight: But it's usable on an optimal point of view? |
| 20:00.08 | ckknight | you're missing a few things |
| 20:00.11 | ckknight | such as full-frame highlight |
| 20:00.13 | cog|work | alestane: considering everyone in the discussion pretty much forgot everything in your post after a page or two :P |
| 20:00.16 | ckknight | visual heal |
| 20:00.20 | ckknight | and death knight runes |
| 20:00.24 | ckknight | but for the most part, it's there |
| 20:00.35 | cog|work | except for bickering back and forth about who can come up with a better analogy :P |
| 20:00.51 | Kazie | ckknight: well those things in particular are some that i never use :) |
| 20:00.57 | alestane | Did they have any luck? |
| 20:01.03 | ckknight | Kazie: what class you play? |
| 20:01.45 | Kazie | Protection warrior for raiding, survival hunter for pvp |
| 20:01.47 | cog|work | alestane: eventually the mood shifted to <generic thread about ui policy #22356> |
| 20:01.58 | cog|work | i think people gave up on the whole analogy idea |
| 20:02.06 | alestane | I suspected as much. Ah well, I said my piece. |
| 20:02.21 | jnwhiteh | fuck EU ptr down? |
| 20:02.27 | Dagmar | Kazie: I've been using it with both my hunter and my DK. I've got a whole nothing thing for runes, but it's usable for both from what I can tell |
| 20:02.40 | kd3 | clad; they're both down. new build getting pushed |
| 20:02.40 | alestane | US PTR is down. |
| 20:02.45 | jnwhiteh | bah okay |
| 20:02.47 | jnwhiteh | thanks, |
| 20:02.51 | jnwhiteh | someone ping me when its up please :P |
| 20:03.03 | Dagmar | As "beta" as it might be, it's still already ahead of PB3 from what I can tell |
| 20:03.06 | Kazie | Dagmar: I'm downloading it now, you guys are saying too much good stuff about it for me to resist it :) |
| 20:03.25 | kd3 | only thing I'm still missing from pb3 is mt/ma frames |
| 20:03.31 | Dagmar | I no longer have odd raid markers getting left behind on the screen, and it seems to handle being switched between modes more gracefully than 3 |
| 20:03.55 | Dagmar | Like, sometimes in config mode some things (like a set of targets or whatever) won't show up sometimes, but only when I'v ejust instantated them |
| 20:04.05 | Kazie | MT frames are nice from a healers perspective, but i'm raiding as Protection Warrior, so i don't need to see my own health ;D |
| 20:04.15 | Dagmar | PB3 had a bad tendency to link some settings to the wrong frames. |
| 20:04.41 | Dagmar | Kazie: I was trying to test that last week but the bloody raid leader was being too lazy to assign MTs |
| 20:04.41 | Dashkal | oh bloddy hell "Death Strike damage has been lowered, it now deals 60% weapon damage (down from 75%) plus 178.4 (down from 222.75) for Rank 5.". *sigh* I'm gonna have to give up blood at this rate |
| 20:05.11 | Dagmar | Dashkal: I'm not 100% about this but that was supposed to be the "heal me" strike, not the big damage strike |
| 20:05.23 | Dashkal | Dagmar: granted, but they already nerfed obliterate out of my rotation |
| 20:05.32 | ckknight | kd3: I put MT/MA frames in PB4 |
| 20:05.42 | Dashkal | If I can't use either, I'm gonna have to bit it and go SS |
| 20:05.42 | Dagmar | OPbliterate wasn't very useful to begin with, IMHO just because it worked like a cure |
| 20:05.52 | Dagmar | Like, why the hell would I want to *remove* my diseases |
| 20:06.12 | Dashkal | With both DS and Oblit useless, I have no FU ability, just every other rotation having extra heart strikes |
| 20:06.31 | kd3 | checks for an updated rev |
| 20:06.32 | Dagmar | "FU"? |
| 20:06.36 | Dashkal | Frost-Unholy |
| 20:06.54 | Dashkal | Death Strike, Obliterate, Scourge Strike |
| 20:07.11 | Dagmar | When I actually see things boil down to a rotation, I'll let you know |
| 20:07.12 | ckknight | kd3: you gotta create a raid frame group, filter it to show main tanks only. |
| 20:07.24 | kd3 | ah |
| 20:07.37 | Dagmar | At the moemnt I'm still working out what to hit on the fly, but I'm also just soloing everything (in sight, and I do mean everything) still as mainly unholy |
| 20:07.43 | kd3 | I was just expecting another drop down along the lines of raid/raid targets/raid pets/etc... |
| 20:07.45 | Kazie | Dagmar: Then get another raid leader :) A good raid leader always assign targets for the healers :) |
| 20:07.50 | Dashkal | Blood is (currently) lacking any kind of hard hitting FU strike. All I can do is make use of Death Rune Mastery for extra heart strikes every other totation |
| 20:07.58 | Dagmar | Kazie: Well, it was OS 25 so ... |
| 20:08.08 | Dagmar | If they needed MT's set, perhaps WoW is not the game for them |
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| 20:08.37 | Dagmar | I like how Vault Of Archavon means you can basically turn off just about everything if you're not a healer |
| 20:08.49 | Kazie | Dagmar: If it were a clean i understand him.. but if it were with 1-3 drakes then it's just slack from the leader :P |
| 20:09.08 | Dagmar | Kazie: We were just doing it as a 20-man for the achievement. |
| 20:09.18 | Dagmar | It's very zerg-friendly like that |
| 20:10.07 | Kazie | Dagmar: the achievements atm. are too easy.. i hope the next Aspect will be MUCH more defficult to kill. |
| 20:10.12 | Dashkal | Meh, between that and DRW lasting 11s, blood really has been nerfed to a solo or pvp spec *sigh* |
| 20:10.46 | Dagmar | I dont know that the term "nerf" can really be applied to deathknights |
| 20:10.49 | Dashkal | at least ebon plague stacking has been fixed |
| 20:11.09 | Dagmar | I am still able to me sloppier with my DK than I ever was with my gorilladin-equipped hunter |
| 20:11.18 | Dagmar | As blood those worms make you well-nigh unkillable |
| 20:11.31 | Dashkal | I used blood as my raid/DPS spec. |
| 20:11.53 | Dagmar | Kazie: Well, it was a raid populated with people who would probably swing at a real person who had a skull over their head without thinking about it |
| 20:12.08 | ScytheBlade1 | http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200903/errord/safeguard.png |
| 20:12.10 | Dashkal | I quite happily ignored the self-heal talents for extra damage, but now that no longer seems to be an option. |
| 20:12.37 | Dashkal | Though I could take blood down to HS and stop there. I'll experiment with builds of that style |
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| 20:15.14 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: What's that company name? Lemme go sell their stock short |
| 20:15.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Dagmar: no idea |
| 20:15.51 | NeoTron | ScytheBlade1: wow |
| 20:16.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Dagmar: could probably google the window name? |
| 20:16.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Dagmar: ;) |
| 20:17.05 | Dagmar | Oh wait, that's Sophos. |
| 20:17.14 | ScytheBlade1 | o_o |
| 20:17.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Seriously? |
| 20:17.24 | Dagmar | They're not even worth the paper of printing certificates |
| 20:17.39 | Dagmar | http://go.utimaco.com/manual/safeguard-easy/v45/1-390.html |
| 20:23.56 | NeoTron | hot |
| 20:24.20 | NeoTron | all the error message needed was a name of the user whose password you picke |
| 20:25.37 | Dagmar | I assume the purpose of that is to facilitate the user only having to enter "a" password, and it pick the user based on that |
| 20:25.37 | malreth | what can you say about the state of science education in America when people plainly say things like "it's still only just a theory." |
| 20:25.52 | Dagmar | malreth: That we're not burning enough religious zealots |
| 20:26.14 | malreth | i ask them if they think gravity is a hoax |
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| 20:26.27 | Dagmar | They need to be taught to *fear* meddling in the affairs of science. |
| 20:26.59 | Dagmar | malreth: What they're doing is trying to play word games so they can try to shill for spontaneous creation |
| 20:27.10 | malreth | global warming, in this case |
| 20:27.30 | malreth | creationism, however, is real. God is going to smite you for saying otherwise. |
| 20:27.36 | Dagmar | Perhaps if more of them suddenly notice large laser holes in their torsos, they'd be less eager to deliberately spread misinformation |
| 20:28.31 | Thunder_Child | malreth, go paly with your squirrel and worry not of the stupidity of man |
| 20:28.34 | Thunder_Child | play* |
| 20:28.49 | Thunder_Child | squirrels* |
| 20:30.31 | Dagmar | ImageMagik photo resize filled /tmp. Files removed. |
| 20:30.55 | Dagmar | Pardon me while I go browbeat a Windows admin about roaming user profiles, *again* |
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| 20:35.15 | malreth | for all you scrabble players out there... "Za", "Qi", and "Zzz" are now scrabble words |
| 20:35.25 | ckknight | seriously? |
| 20:35.27 | ckknight | blah. |
| 20:35.35 | ckknight | now I gotta adjust my whole strategy! |
| 20:35.44 | malreth | triple word score snore! |
| 20:35.47 | durcyn | scrabble will never be the same. |
| 20:36.23 | selckin | in what language? |
| 20:36.47 | Thunder_Child | fail |
| 20:36.54 | Thunder_Child | is the name of the language |
| 20:37.03 | malreth | In American. The best language in the world. |
| 20:37.09 | Thunder_Child | just like the new molten armor |
| 20:37.52 | selckin | how can zzz be a word then :\ |
| 20:38.08 | malreth | ~dict zzz |
| 20:38.16 | Tem | um |
| 20:38.17 | malreth | purl agrees |
| 20:38.21 | Tem | is anyone else unable to log in atm? |
| 20:38.42 | Thunder_Child | wow...filefront is closing up shop |
| 20:38.42 | Dashkal | ok, got a nice unholy build I can handle, I just need to mentally adjust to reaping. The rotation seems to always take me a bit to adjust to (reaping being something of an inverse to DRM) |
| 20:38.45 | Tem | it alternates between unable to connect and invalid information |
| 20:38.46 | cog|work | malreth: i thought Za has been in there for years? |
| 20:38.53 | cog|work | (short for pizza) |
| 20:39.03 | Tem | Dashkal, ew blood |
| 20:39.09 | Tem | Welcome back to the light, though |
| 20:39.28 | malreth | WSJ is saying "Za" was recently added |
| 20:39.35 | Dashkal | Tem: I have little choise. Blood isn't Raid/DPS friendly anymore. I'll try it out in the first couple raids post 3.1, but I'm pretty sure I'm going unholy |
| 20:39.36 | Tem | it connects far enough to know to ask for my authenticator |
| 20:39.57 | Tem | Dashkal, I ___hate___ blood dps right now |
| 20:40.03 | malreth | also, i'm compelled to punch anyone who refers to "pizza" as "za" |
| 20:40.10 | Dashkal | That DS nerf was the last straw. There's no heavy FU ability left |
| 20:40.14 | durcyn | it's obligatory, malreth |
| 20:40.22 | Tem | the rotation is just dumb |
| 20:40.52 | Dashkal | I rather liked it :p I was the only DK in the guild who could handle the advanced DRM/Oblit/Epidemic rotation :p |
| 20:41.03 | Dashkal | And for my trouble I was usually on top of the DPS charts |
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| 20:42.22 | Dashkal | Oh well. nothing matters until I get into naxx post 3.1 and actually see how blood does raid buffed. The target dummy just isn't enough |
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| 20:43.19 | Tem | oh you did the epidemic rotation |
| 20:43.22 | Tem | I never tried |
| 20:44.37 | Dashkal | I liked it quite a bit. It's the most non-repetitive rotation I could find. It kind of had two cycles going at the same time (DRM causing oblit to alternate with HS, Epidemic causing HS/Oblit to alternate with IT/PS) |
| 20:46.18 | Tem | yeah |
| 20:46.35 | Tem | my favorite dps rotation is 2h frost |
| 20:46.56 | Tem | but I mostly just tank |
| 20:47.07 | Tem | and lately I've had to dps as blood because we don't have the AP buff |
| 20:47.41 | Tem | pretty much just for 6m malygos |
| 20:48.01 | Tem | and I did a naxx in that spec because we didn't have enough people online |
| 20:48.14 | Tem | it's a blessing and curse to have the best off-set of the tanks |
| 20:48.48 | Dashkal | :p |
| 20:49.10 | Dashkal | We're overfull on tanks, heavy on DPS, and starved for healers. I'm very glad I switched from my Druid |
| 20:49.14 | Dashkal | hates healing |
| 20:49.23 | Tem | okay this is really bizarre |
| 20:49.25 | Tem | I can't log in |
| 20:49.31 | Tem | I get an Unable to Connect error |
| 20:49.41 | Tem | but I _can_ log in to my buddy's account |
| 20:49.53 | Tem | it's just my account that doesn't work |
| 20:50.01 | Wraithan | We are heavy on healers and tanks, light on dps |
| 20:50.14 | Wraithan | will be nice when 3.1 comes out, our raid dps should go up quite a bit |
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| 20:50.34 | cog|work | Tem: bug with bnet account upgrade perhaps? |
| 20:50.46 | Tem | I did do a bnet upgrade |
| 20:50.52 | Tem | where can I read about this issue? |
| 20:51.03 | cog|work | and you're using your email + bnet pw to log in? |
| 20:51.20 | cog|work | sorry... didn't mean to imply i knew about a specific issue |
| 20:51.34 | zenzelezz | I thought "Unable to connect" was only about establishing the connection to the game servers, not authentication |
| 20:51.37 | cog|work | i've just heard a few people mention it a few times |
| 20:51.53 | cog|work | that could be... t |
| 20:51.54 | NeoTron | prefers unholy 2H DPS. |
| 20:52.05 | Tem | zenzelezz, I thought so too, but it's aparently not |
| 20:52.05 | cog|work | hit cancel when it's connecting and see if you can get to another realm |
| 20:52.06 | NeoTron | funny how with DK's you get so used to a spec |
| 20:52.15 | Dagmar | Yay for chaining DoTs and just standing around grinning. :) |
| 20:52.31 | NeoTron | I'd say it would take me weeks of dislike to get into and learn to properly play as frost or blood |
| 20:52.59 | Tem | cog|work, it's not like that at all |
| 20:53.09 | Tem | I use my email and password |
| 20:53.13 | Tem | then it asks for my auth key |
| 20:53.21 | Tem | then I get a dialog with no text and a cancel button |
| 20:53.28 | Tem | it sits for a second then gives unable to connect |
| 20:53.32 | cog|work | hit that cancel button |
| 20:53.37 | Tem | nothing happens |
| 20:53.41 | cog|work | hmm... |
| 20:53.43 | Dashkal | NeoTron: I planned ahead. I moonlight as unholy from time to time :p |
| 20:53.52 | Tem | unholy is much easier than blood |
| 20:53.57 | Tem | but I find I get better dps out of frost |
| 20:54.06 | Tem | though I should give unholy another go now that I have the sigil |
| 20:54.22 | Dashkal | I'm not terribly worried. If blood really does vanish from raid/DPS, they'll buff it next patch and I'll go back. |
| 20:54.27 | NeoTron | i do enough dps and I like the play style |
| 20:54.33 | NeoTron | also tank as unholy |
| 20:54.42 | Tem | I liked tanking as unholy |
| 20:54.56 | Tem | but my tps was too low |
| 20:55.00 | Dashkal | If I get called on to tank, I'll probably go blood. I'm mildly worried about threat, but my mitigation/health return should be fine |
| 20:55.03 | NeoTron | it will be better in 3.1 I think, in terms of talents |
| 20:55.04 | Tem | frost beats the pants off unholy |
| 20:55.11 | Tem | (in tps) |
| 20:55.13 | NeoTron | I can do a lot of tps |
| 20:55.20 | NeoTron | just have to pick some select dps items |
| 20:55.31 | NeoTron | like the SS sigil and the greatness card |
| 20:55.34 | Dagmar | Tem: Might have something to do with the fact that it's got skills that flat out add extra threat |
| 20:55.49 | NeoTron | and ofc not spec for crap talents such as perma ghoul and gargoyle |
| 20:55.55 | Tem | Dagmar, uh, no? |
| 20:56.30 | NeoTron | only fight I've really ever had tps issues on is Malygos |
| 20:56.45 | Dagmar | NeoTron: They're not crap talents, they're just not useful to you |
| 20:57.05 | NeoTron | they are crap talents for tanking |
| 20:57.22 | NeoTron | and there are better talents to pick up instead |
| 20:57.28 | Dagmar | Not for AoE |
| 20:57.36 | NeoTron | what? |
| 20:57.50 | NeoTron | how is ghoul and gargoyle useful for aoe tanking? |
| 20:57.58 | Wraithan | ghoul and gargoyle are crap for tanking |
| 20:58.11 | NeoTron | and if there's anything unholy is good at, best at in fact, it's aoe tanking |
| 20:58.13 | Dagmar | It's yet another AoE. The ghoul is just convenience |
| 20:58.15 | NeoTron | I can hold aggro in my sleep |
| 20:58.24 | NeoTron | no? |
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| 20:58.40 | NeoTron | gargoyle is a single target dps pet that eats my runic power |
| 20:58.53 | NeoTron | it's not neutral in threat like a ghoul it lowers it quite a bit |
| 20:59.13 | Dagmar | Yes, but it operates without you having to mess with |
| 20:59.14 | Wraithan | no runestrikes or unholy blight |
| 20:59.15 | Wraithan | =/ |
| 20:59.33 | Wraithan | runestrikes make up a large portion of my dps |
| 20:59.43 | NeoTron | it eats runic power and as Wraithan said, makes it impossible to use rune strike or unholy blight or death coil for the duration |
| 21:00.07 | NeoTron | or perhaps more accurately, it wouldn't last since rune strike would eat up the runic and it'd fly away |
| 21:00.14 | Dagmar | That's simply not true |
| 21:00.17 | Shirik | rawrs |
| 21:00.17 | NeoTron | so it is without a doubt useless for tanking |
| 21:00.21 | NeoTron | yes it is |
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| 21:00.40 | NeoTron | I barely have extra runic power for dc/ub without a gargoyle |
| 21:00.54 | NeoTron | gargs lower TPS period. there's no argument there |
| 21:01.08 | Dagmar | Considering that I've been farming the crap out of instances with a new DK using almost entirely Unholy Blight, Death and Decay, Pestilence, and the gargoyle, I'm very sure it's possible to keep them all rolling at once |
| 21:01.13 | NeoTron | and yeah if you feel garg is good as tanking that could explain poor unholy TPS since it shows basic lack of understanding |
| 21:01.26 | Dagmar | Personal attacks are for bitches |
| 21:01.43 | NeoTron | you don't know what you're talking about. |
| 21:01.44 | NeoTron | period |
| 21:01.47 | Dagmar | I do. |
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| 21:01.58 | NeoTron | or perhaps more accuratly, you don't try to hold threat against dps doing 6500 DPS |
| 21:02.07 | Dagmar | You are confusing genocidal extermination with tanking |
| 21:02.24 | Wraithan | NeoTron: Eh, going to ignore this argument, I am on your side fwiw |
| 21:02.28 | NeoTron | Gargoyle lowers TPS. that is my statement. it's 100% correct. |
| 21:02.29 | Dagmar | If DoTs were meant to kill quickly, they wouldn't be dots. |
| 21:02.49 | Dagmar | NeoTron: Good for you, I didn't say anything about what gargoyles do to DPS |
| 21:02.58 | Dagmar | s/DPS/TPS/; |
| 21:03.05 | NeoTron | err |
| 21:03.30 | NeoTron | I said garg + permapet are bad tank talents. that means they don't increase your TPS or survivability. Thus taking them is not optimal in a tank build |
| 21:03.54 | Wraithan | If we are talking about tanking, the tps and mitigation are all that matters, if you are losing either of those in favor of dps, then you are not a pure tank. |
| 21:04.11 | Dagmar | I'm not talking about tanking. I'm talking about doing AoE killing. |
| 21:04.14 | Dagmar | Flat out slaughter. |
| 21:04.24 | Wraithan | Ok, then why did you argue with NeoTron? |
| 21:04.29 | NeoTron | ... |
| 21:04.36 | Dagmar | Because he called them crap talents unconditionally |
| 21:04.39 | NeoTron | no |
| 21:04.43 | NeoTron | crap TANK talents |
| 21:04.45 | Wraithan | No, they are great dps talents |
| 21:04.46 | NeoTron | and obligatory DPS talents |
| 21:04.52 | Dagmar | ...and he failed to realize I was talking about something other than tanking for other people |
| 21:04.57 | selckin | │21:57:30 NeoTron | they are crap talents for tanking |
| 21:05.06 | selckin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.12 | selckin | Dagmar: you're fired! |
| 21:05.16 | Codayus | Heh |
| 21:05.23 | Dagmar | "<NeoTron> and ofc not spec for crap talents such as perma ghoul and gargoyle" |
| 21:05.29 | Dagmar | That's where it started. |
| 21:05.40 | NeoTron | in the context of tanking |
| 21:05.50 | durcyn | you guys are cute. |
| 21:06.10 | selckin | lucks durcyn |
| 21:06.31 | Codayus | selckin: Hmm, was the l or the u in lucks a typo? oO |
| 21:06.35 | NeoTron | unlucks selckin. |
| 21:07.05 | selckin | has tears of fortune cookies |
| 21:07.06 | Tekkub | YATTA! http://ptr.wowhead.com/?items=16&filter=cr=82;crs=1;crv=0 |
| 21:07.09 | NeoTron | Dagmar: learn to context. that statement was part of the previous few lines indicating it had to do with unholy TPS. |
| 21:07.14 | Tekkub | they figured out they need to use class colors |
| 21:07.24 | Tekkub | I wonder if they're updating the old glyphs? |
| 21:07.28 | Dagmar | NeoTron: Sorry, I failed to give a crap anymore several lines back |
| 21:07.37 | Dagmar | If you want to start a big fight you'll have to be faster |
| 21:08.04 | durcyn | Tekkub: every glyph was class colored yesterday when i checked on ptr |
| 21:08.05 | Wraithan | Dagmar: *shrug* we gave up on that when we realized you were fighting a different fight. |
| 21:08.21 | Dagmar | Tekkub: Id' be happier if they'd just fix the broken ones |
| 21:08.24 | Tekkub | *dance* |
| 21:08.26 | NeoTron | still need to fix the AH so you can search by minor / major glyphs |
| 21:08.30 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.howie23.org/files/bacon_twinkie_stonehenge.jpg |
| 21:08.35 | NeoTron | now you pretty much have to search by name |
| 21:08.36 | Codayus | Wraithan: Or claimed to be, after he'd got called on it... :-p |
| 21:08.38 | Tekkub | screw the AH ^^ |
| 21:08.55 | Wraithan | Codayus: >.> no comment. |
| 21:09.06 | NeoTron | I dropped inscription for JC when I realized I was going to be perma-tank and later MT |
| 21:09.25 | NeoTron | only to shortly thereafter go back to DPS... |
| 21:09.35 | Codayus | NeoTron: ...ouch. |
| 21:10.00 | Codayus | Although I suppose JC is pretty good for any role, really. |
| 21:10.07 | Tekkub | ha ha! |
| 21:10.12 | Wraithan | NeoTron: Yeah, dropped mining/skinning on my dk to go JC/Blacksmith on my DK |
| 21:10.19 | Wraithan | since I am tank |
| 21:10.22 | Dagmar | Codayus: THer'es no "called on it" to it. I've been scooping up most of the countryside to zerg up a couple of tradeskills on a new server the the last few days. Those aren't crap talents |
| 21:10.32 | Dagmar | I knew exactly what I had in mind when I started typing |
| 21:10.56 | NeoTron | JC is always good |
| 21:11.11 | NeoTron | but inscription is poor for tanking and but reasonbly good for dps |
| 21:11.16 | NeoTron | in the end though JC works for me |
| 21:11.25 | NeoTron | the prismatic gems = win |
| 21:11.49 | Wraithan | prismatic gems+extra socket slots = LOTS of HP |
| 21:12.01 | NeoTron | + trinket |
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| 21:12.05 | Codayus | Dagmar: Ah, so your claim is that you just fail at reading comprehension then? Fair enough... |
| 21:12.05 | Wraithan | yup |
| 21:12.46 | Dagmar | I fail at jumping to conclusions about what the other guy is talking about |
| 21:13.14 | Dagmar | Those talents aren't useful for tanking, but the gargoyle is extra damage when you're trying to wrangle 20 mobs at once |
| 21:13.30 | Dagmar | If you want "crap" things, take a look at some of the hunter glyphs |
| 21:14.08 | selckin | he was talking about tanking from the start, you just chose to ignore that |
| 21:14.11 | malreth | woohoo! i won an argument on the internets! |
| 21:14.41 | malreth | i'm sexy now |
| 21:14.50 | Codayus | Dagmar: true, it IS confusing when people keep using the word "tanking", including in the comment you actually replied to. You just never know what they mean. Healing? PvP? Septic tanks? It's confusing! |
| 21:15.02 | Dagmar | I chose to point out a case that's not entirely uncommon where at least one of those two things was not as was being claimed. |
| 21:15.15 | Dagmar | ...and just because something doesn't help a given goal doesn't mean it's crap. |
| 21:15.37 | Codayus | I mean, the word "crap" alone really does point towards the septic tank interpretation. |
| 21:15.44 | Dagmar | And you're just being a jackass now. |
| 21:15.54 | Wraithan | Codayus: I don't know about NeoTron, but I was talking about septic tanks. |
| 21:16.18 | Dagmar | So, one of us was trying to be helpful and constructive. |
| 21:16.23 | Dagmar | That'll effing teach me to bother |
| 21:16.43 | End | weird |
| 21:16.47 | Codayus | Possibly. The fact remains that someone said it was crap for tanking, and you said "not for AoE". You may have meant "yeah, but it's so nice for DPS on trash packs that it's still a good idea", in which case you'd have been correct but pointless since the discussion was about *TPS*, but...you didn't. |
| 21:16.51 | End | I'm not sure why, but red gems have shot way up |
| 21:17.22 | Adys | # Ice Barrier now prevents spellcasting from being delayed by damage. (Old - prevented spells from interruption) |
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| 21:17.27 | Adys | can someone explain me that? |
| 21:17.31 | Dagmar | Codayus: And then the talents were called crap without qualification |
| 21:17.35 | durcyn | Adys: pushback prevention only, can be interrupted now |
| 21:17.46 | durcyn | i.e. taking a melee swing vs taking a pummel |
| 21:17.49 | Adys | uh |
| 21:17.56 | Adys | you could always interrupt spells in ice barrier |
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| 21:18.11 | durcyn | unless they just changed the wording, i haven't specced my mage frost in two years |
| 21:18.21 | Codayus | Dagmar: No it wasn't. Lern2understandcontext. :-) |
| 21:18.28 | Adys | prolly |
| 21:18.30 | Dagmar | Codayus: I pasted it. Get over it |
| 21:21.42 | Codayus | Dagmar: No, you didn't post context, since the context was TPS. You clearly didn't realize that, but you shouldn't feel bad. |
| 21:22.50 | Dagmar | I don't. I'm just a little irked that people are being so thick about this |
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| 21:23.08 | AckisWork | fyi I will buy gold from the first gold sellers that send me an advertisement without any words spelled wrong or typoed. |
| 21:23.12 | Dagmar | It seems a bit fussy to be dissing those when there's things like Glyph of Possessed Strength about |
| 21:23.13 | selckin | zomg drop it allready |
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| 21:29.19 | jnwhiteh | 93 pages |
| 21:30.34 | flugh | wow, i read the docs, followed a link, read more, got an answer. RTFM.win++; |
| 21:31.09 | cog|work | So is there an addon called TPS Report yet? |
| 21:32.20 | Thunder_Child | someone needs to smack you cog|work |
| 21:32.36 | End | cog|work: yes, did you get the memo!? |
| 21:33.30 | cog|work | no... i was too busy looking for my stapler |
| 21:36.44 | NeoTron | TPS report is just win |
| 21:46.19 | Shirik | Esamynn :( |
| 21:50.09 | Esamynn | Shirik: what? |
| 21:50.25 | Shirik | Esamynn! I can't log into wiki anymore :( |
| 21:50.31 | Esamynn | erk, what? |
| 21:50.35 | Shirik | Says "invalid password" |
| 21:50.41 | Esamynn | ... |
| 21:50.44 | Shirik | everywhere else works |
| 21:57.05 | Esamynn | Shirik: should be fixed now |
| 21:57.12 | Shirik | out of curiosity, what was it |
| 21:57.20 | Shirik | <3 you |
| 21:57.28 | Fisker- | kicks Shirik in the motherfucking shins |
| 21:57.41 | Esamynn | auth plugin wasn't handling the new role |
| 21:57.45 | Fisker- | wins |
| 21:57.47 | zenzelezz | why so Fisker-, Fisker-? |
| 21:57.57 | Fisker- | he kicked me :( |
| 21:58.02 | Fisker- | he violated me! |
| 21:58.02 | Shirik | <3 Esamynn |
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| 22:07.18 | PProvost | I assume this has been noted here already - http://farewell.filefront.com/ |
| 22:07.30 | Tekkub | good riddance! |
| 22:07.47 | PProvost | I'm not a big fan either, but if people have stuff there, they better get it down |
| 22:07.51 | Vonhinten | No way, filefront was fast DL's |
| 22:08.21 | Tekkub | it was all just a front for money laundering |
| 22:08.28 | PProvost | lol |
| 22:08.41 | Vonhinten | probably the mexican drug cartels eh |
| 22:09.00 | Tekkub | kd3, got a link to the new PTR downloader? |
| 22:09.03 | Adys | is there a way to make bartender use a profile from a specific char by default |
| 22:09.07 | Adys | instead of creating new ones? |
| 22:09.35 | PProvost | Adys: That used to bug me so much I had a post-update script that made an edit on the source |
| 22:09.38 | Tekkub | by default? chane the addon to use a global profile by default :P |
| 22:09.58 | Adys | bah yea i guess |
| 22:10.00 | Tekkub | I hate people that pick poor profile default behaviour |
| 22:10.32 | PProvost | That is the change my sed script did |
| 22:10.46 | PProvost | default shoudl always be "Default" LOL |
| 22:10.53 | Tekkub | when in doubt, default to global |
| 22:11.01 | PProvost | Or that |
| 22:11.03 | PProvost | Whatever |
| 22:11.06 | Adys | remember which file its on? Im lazy |
| 22:11.14 | Tekkub | per-char should only really be used if the settings are very char-specific |
| 22:11.15 | Tekkub | like Cork |
| 22:11.17 | PProvost | I left Bartender months and months ago |
| 22:11.21 | PProvost | Dominos FTW! |
| 22:11.27 | Adys | what's different about it? |
| 22:11.30 | Tekkub | and even there, the general settings are still global |
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| 22:12.17 | nevcairiel | Adys: Bartender4.lua, just look for the AceDB :New call and add a "Default" as 3rd parameter |
| 22:12.24 | ScytheBlade1 | holy crap, some common sense when it comes to "but my OS is more secure than yours!!!111!": http://osnews.com/story/21213/Miller_Macs_Less_Secure_But_Safer_than_Windows_Machines |
| 22:12.35 | nevcairiel | But how often do you really get new chars that you cannot switch the profile once <.< |
| 22:12.46 | Adys | self.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("Bartender4DB", defaults, "Default") |
| 22:12.47 | Adys | that? |
| 22:12.50 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 22:12.52 | Adys | nevcairiel: want a screenshot? :P |
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| 22:14.47 | Adys | nevcairiel: http://devcub.com/~adys/bartender.jpg |
| 22:15.15 | nevcairiel | wtf do you do |
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| 22:15.32 | Maldivia | hmm, lots of UI changes in the new PTR patch |
| 22:15.33 | mikma | rofl |
| 22:15.34 | Adys | I create a bunch of chars on random realms every day to amuse myself |
| 22:16.03 | nevcairiel | oh new patch? |
| 22:16.03 | Dagmar | "Spends a lot of time making new profiles" I suspect |
| 22:16.23 | Tuller | there's another patch? |
| 22:16.41 | Thunder_Child | kicks his display drivers in the balls |
| 22:16.46 | Thunder_Child | twice |
| 22:16.49 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: patch 9733 |
| 22:16.53 | Thunder_Child | from behind |
| 22:16.59 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: or well, rather build 9733 :) |
| 22:17.32 | Zootfizzle | GetItemUniqueness! |
| 22:17.38 | Thunder_Child | Adys, stop failing |
| 22:17.53 | Tuller | I need me a frame xml of that build now, bah |
| 22:17.57 | Maldivia | http://patchdiff.pastey.net/111001 <-- UI diff |
| 22:18.10 | Maldivia | woot zoot :) |
| 22:19.04 | Tuller | looks like they've turned on the joystick code |
| 22:19.20 | Adys | hm |
| 22:19.22 | Zootfizzle | The joystick code has been removed |
| 22:19.25 | Adys | I still am half sleepy |
| 22:19.31 | Adys | I didnt read that sentence in that order |
| 22:19.40 | ScytheBlade1 | You know, I was half curious how it would have worked with my xbox gamepad |
| 22:19.52 | Tuller | damn you people and your purple |
| 22:20.25 | Zootfizzle | It's still in the works :) |
| 22:20.36 | Adys | nevcairiel: does bartender every overwrite my serverside button positions? |
| 22:20.40 | Adys | ever** |
| 22:20.42 | nevcairiel | no |
| 22:20.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough |
| 22:20.54 | Adys | hm ok |
| 22:20.58 | Maldivia | event GLYPHFRAME_OPEN renamed to USE_GLYPH it seems |
| 22:22.31 | Tuller | IsInventoryItemLocked |
| 22:22.46 | Tuller | though that may have existed before |
| 22:22.56 | Tuller | locking of slots is not new, of course |
| 22:23.30 | Adys | what's that? |
| 22:23.37 | Adys | when an item is being sold? |
| 22:24.17 | Tuller | moved, etc |
| 22:24.23 | Adys | ya |
| 22:27.05 | Thunder_Child | stamps on blizzards set peice bouns chioces |
| 22:27.11 | Thunder_Child | bonus* |
| 22:27.17 | Adys | stomps on Thunder_Child's keyboard |
| 22:27.35 | Thunder_Child | Adys, that wouldnt make it worse |
| 22:27.38 | Thunder_Child | sadly |
| 22:27.46 | Adys | say thanks then |
| 22:27.52 | Thunder_Child | why? |
| 22:27.57 | Thunder_Child | it makes no nevermind |
| 22:28.32 | kd3 | is pretty sure he mentioned the joystick stuff getting pulled this build in his email |
| 22:29.16 | Adys | nevcairiel: its still creating new profiles |
| 22:30.41 | Thunder_Child | "Get your no obligation spring lawn anal" is not the place to end on the subject preview |
| 22:30.49 | kd3 | ! |
| 22:30.51 | kd3 | lmao |
| 22:32.45 | Dagmar | I'm still wondering how a joystick would be useful |
| 22:33.00 | Tekkub | kd3, got a link to the downloader for the new patch :P |
| 22:33.24 | kd3 | sec |
| 22:33.26 | Thunder_Child | wth, tango and cash only have a 5.7 on imdb |
| 22:33.33 | Tekkub | Dagmar, if they did it right... I won't have to use the crappy drivers for my n52, I can just bind the joystick buttons directly |
| 22:33.40 | kd3 | wait, no. I got it directly from the http mirrors |
| 22:33.52 | kd3 | I could hand you the downloader for the 9704-9722 patch if you want, though |
| 22:34.05 | Tekkub | I just want something to download the new patch :P |
| 22:34.15 | kd3 | a.wirebrain.de/wow/ |
| 22:34.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: in theory, if they did it right, that would apply to any HID device >.> |
| 22:35.06 | Tekkub | NightHawkTheSane, exactly |
| 22:35.12 | Tekkub | I'm hoping they did it right |
| 22:35.19 | NightHawkTheSane | it'd be neat |
| 22:35.35 | NightHawkTheSane | i was planning on buying a g-13, or something similar kinda soonish |
| 22:35.45 | Tekkub | n52 >>>> all |
| 22:36.33 | Dagmar | If your current keyboard is dodgy, you might want to just start with the G11 |
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| 22:36.52 | NightHawkTheSane | last i checked the n52 didn't work nicely with osx, but maybe theyve got updated drivers |
| 22:37.14 | Tekkub | yea see what I was just talking about was not using their drivers at all :) |
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| 22:37.24 | NightHawkTheSane | true that |
| 22:37.36 | Dagmar | They'd all be a lot easier to use if Microsoft would stop hating on F13-F24 |
| 22:37.51 | Tekkub | I don't like remapping the buttons to normal keyboard keys, but I've been forced to because wow won't bind to the joystick buttons |
| 22:38.24 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i do that with mouse buttons >3 right now |
| 22:38.34 | Tekkub | Dagmar, yea, they add this retarded F-lock key and these not-a-key function on all the F keys on my ergo... |
| 22:38.54 | Kazie | ckknight: Do you plan on making it possible to enter solid values for diffrent things such as dimentions and positions of frames with PB4? |
| 22:39.00 | Tekkub | instead of just making the damn things f13-24 and using their dumb driver to bind those F's to the action printed on the key |
| 22:39.12 | ckknight | Kazie: you mean like how you can now? |
| 22:39.14 | ckknight | <.< |
| 22:39.15 | ckknight | >.> |
| 22:39.34 | Kazie | ckknight: I can't enter values in PB4 atm. i only got a slidebar |
| 22:39.48 | ckknight | click the number under the bar |
| 22:39.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i think you can.. ^^ that |
| 22:40.04 | Dagmar | Tekkub: There's the problem. You can't use F13-F24 because Microsoft's damn API ignores them |
| 22:40.11 | Kazie | omg.. ninja text field xD |
| 22:40.18 | Tekkub | I use em... |
| 22:40.20 | Dagmar | Tekkub: I would be using those with my G15 (original) in a heartbeat if I could |
| 22:40.26 | NightHawkTheSane | hearts his F16 key |
| 22:40.28 | Dagmar | Who did you kill to get that to work |
| 22:40.36 | Tekkub | AutoHotkey ^^ |
| 22:41.04 | Kazie | ckknight: You kinda owned me on that one ckknight :) .. anyways i've made you a ticket on wowace regarding missing pixels when placing a bar on the side of another, with a screenshot. |
| 22:41.12 | Tekkub | I don't have actual keys of course, it's other things that AHK changes into em |
| 22:41.22 | ckknight | k |
| 22:41.32 | Dagmar | I'll have to take a poke at that tonight |
| 22:41.57 | Dagmar | Logitech's binding tool can be forced to send them, but the game always pretended to not see them when I tried |
| 22:42.28 | Tekkub | I don't know if the game works with them, no |
| 22:42.34 | Tekkub | foobar2k does though :) |
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| 22:43.25 | Dagmar | Trying to bind all 18 extra keys on the G15 is a bit of a pain |
| 22:44.56 | NightHawkTheSane | USBOverdrive ftw. |
| 22:46.01 | Dagmar | OUch. Okay, now I see what you're on about with AutoHotKey. I suspect that might piss off Warden a bit |
| 22:46.05 | cog|work | lua> print("hello) |
| 22:46.06 | lua_bot | cog|work: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 22:46.50 | Dagmar | Plus, there's still the DirectX problem. |
| 22:47.09 | Dagmar | So long as WoW gets it's input through DirectX, F13-F24 might as well not exist |
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| 22:53.36 | bleeter | I dunno what to think of it, M$ APIs are full of *I promised myself to tone down my language here 'coz I've been overly colourful the past week* |
| 22:53.51 | bleeter | good fer you, good fer me |
| 22:54.23 | Vonhinten | eh |
| 22:55.10 | Dewin | Does anybody know where I could find a large version of the WoW logo separate from other artwork? |
| 22:55.12 | Vonhinten | What API's are you using that are bad |
| 22:56.05 | Dagmar | DirectX gobbling up keystrokes without comment seems pretty bad to me |
| 22:56.18 | bleeter | also, simple deduction. every OS sucks, therefore every OS API sucks |
| 22:56.26 | Dagmar | Works for em |
| 22:56.29 | Dagmar | s/em/me/; |
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| 22:56.41 | cog|work | Dewin: the fansite kit? |
| 22:56.45 | Vonhinten | I think MS has done pretty well with the API, given its age |
| 22:56.51 | Dewin | didn't know where that was, but I think I found something suitable |
| 22:56.53 | bleeter | Dewin: fansite |
| 22:56.56 | cog|work | Dewin: i've got it on http://cogwheel.info |
| 22:56.58 | cog|work | (the logo) |
| 22:57.04 | Vonhinten | WinAPI that is |
| 22:57.31 | cog|work | Dewin: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/downloads.xml |
| 22:57.46 | Tekkub | kd3, you said joystick goodness, but all I'm seeing is REMOVAL of the last bits of the joystick stuff |
| 22:57.52 | Tekkub | or am I missing something? |
| 22:58.28 | Dewin | oh wow, it fits eerily well too. |
| 22:58.35 | Dewin | is making something. |
| 22:58.58 | bleeter | cowers |
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| 22:59.22 | nevcairiel | the joystick goodness as indeed been removed, zoot said its still in the works, so apparently they want to get it back in when its "more done" |
| 22:59.24 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: btw, I did email them. no autoresponse or anything. as I said, may as well have gone to /dev/null |
| 22:59.32 | kd3 | "The reversion of the joystick goodies." |
| 23:00.26 | Dewin | now to see if I can find this font. |
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| 23:08.33 | NightHawkTheSane | http://failblog.org/2009/03/26/meat-fail/ |
| 23:09.04 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: Jesus Christ. |
| 23:10.17 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 23:10.43 | cog|work | NightHawkTheSane: sounds an awful lot like the self-entitled trolls whining about the greedy addon authors ;) |
| 23:11.20 | cog|work | At least it displays the same level of logical faculties |
| 23:11.36 | NightHawkTheSane | has stayed out of that minefield.. probably wisely.. |
| 23:12.09 | cog|work | NightHawkTheSane: no matter which side you're on, some of the crap they say is pure comic gold |
| 23:12.21 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, indeed. i've made the grave mistake of reading a few threads. |
| 23:12.52 | NightHawkTheSane | everyone has their opinion, and everyone else is an idiot for not agreeing with it. *shrug* |
| 23:13.26 | Dagmar | Maybe if they abandoned egalitarianism and started doing karma-ranks like Slashdot |
| 23:13.54 | cog|work | NightHawkTheSane: i'm not talking about the opinion itself... just the epic failure of logic that they display |
| 23:14.05 | kd3 | forum trolls? logic? |
| 23:14.09 | bleeter | maybe I should just rule the world and issue slapdown notices |
| 23:14.10 | kd3 | you should know better than that |
| 23:14.30 | cog|work | kd3: well, i say "trolls" but the sad fact is many of them aren't... |
| 23:14.47 | nevcairiel | Well i guess we can all agree that this 3rd party of users are morons, completly independant of the 2 author-partys arguing =P |
| 23:14.55 | Dagmar | cog|work: Calling them trolls is the nice thing to do |
| 23:15.00 | cog|work | nevcairiel: exactly :) |
| 23:15.04 | bleeter | most folks don't seem to get past their natural abhorence of fully fledged ingame adverts |
| 23:15.06 | Dagmar | ...because then you can at least imply that you think they could post something less ignorant. |
| 23:15.21 | cog|work | Dagmar: quite :P |
| 23:15.22 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: logic is a skill slightly above most of the populace. |
| 23:15.39 | Dagmar | bleeter: The moment that becomes okay will be the same moment IGE starts trying to find coders to hire, man |
| 23:16.20 | cog|work | ^ |
| 23:17.01 | Dagmar | Clearly I need to finish that "drives the point home" screenshot |
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| 23:19.21 | cog|work | I can also understand the ban on ads from an obligation to their other advertisers stance |
| 23:21.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I can agree with all of the "quality of the gameplay experience" clauses |
| 23:21.34 | ScytheBlade1 | But meh, distribution rules is a bit much :P |
| 23:25.27 | bleeter | http://www.vimeo.com/3514904 |
| 23:26.40 | bleeter | totally safe for work, btw |
| 23:30.51 | Druidicbeast | Bleeter - that was .... odd ? |
| 23:31.06 | Kirov | I'd heard about this, but hadn't seen it |
| 23:33.42 | Dewin | I like how I upload an image to tinypic and the resulting file name ends with .jpg... even though it's a GIF image I uploaded, and the headers say it's an image/gif that's being served not an image/jpeg |
| 23:37.09 | Dashkal | bleeter: um... cool, but yeah. Odd |
| 23:37.30 | Dagmar | I especially liked the nutrional information on Grandma |
| 23:37.39 | bleeter | i think the word we're collectively looking for is 'original' |
| 23:38.06 | Dagmar | Huh? |
| 23:38.07 | jnwhiteh | bleeter: that you? |
| 23:38.34 | Dagmar | bleeter: You never saw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBvaHZIrt0o before? |
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| 23:40.40 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 23:42.11 | bleeter | Dagmar: yes, in fact the author of the video I posted says as much. I meant 'original take on red riding hood' |
| 23:42.26 | bleeter | jnwhiteh: nah |
| 23:42.53 | jnwhiteh | bleeter: orly? |
| 23:43.08 | bleeter | jnwhiteh: hang on.. where? |
| 23:43.21 | jnwhiteh | fb |
| 23:43.26 | bleeter | oh yeah |
| 23:43.33 | jnwhiteh | kk |
| 23:43.35 | bleeter | tis me |
| 23:43.52 | bleeter | soz, early rise this morning for a friend who never showed. bit tired, forgot to put a msg in |
| 23:45.19 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 23:46.06 | bleeter | i know why he never showed, 'coz it's PC hardware.. and he wants to see if it's possible for me to hate that crap any more than I already do |
| 23:47.21 | bleeter | "Hallo, your power supply seems to be on the way out. Therefore, I'll just randomly reboot and present other odd hardware errors to you and drive you crazier over a week or so" |
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| 23:49.39 | Shirik | bleeter :( |
| 23:49.42 | Shirik | that hurts |
| 23:49.46 | Tekkub | bah I need something to work on |
| 23:49.52 | Tekkub | what else will 3.1 break? |
| 23:50.05 | bleeter | your sanity |
| 23:50.21 | Tekkub | can't break that again :P |
| 23:50.29 | bleeter | fair call |
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| 23:52.39 | Tewan | Woah |
| 23:52.45 | Tewan | I just had a weird site bug on WoWUI |
| 23:52.53 | Tewan | when I hovered over links, they shifted right. ._. |
| 23:55.24 | Thunder_Child | shifty little 'bug'ers |
| 23:56.26 | Tewan | also, a bug when hovering over for addon info |
| 23:56.27 | Thunder_Child | why isnt the pvp honor weekend things on the calendar |
| 23:56.45 | kd3 | they're filtered |
| 23:56.46 | Thunder_Child | Dolby ^^ |
| 23:56.46 | kd3 | enable em |
| 23:56.53 | Thunder_Child | or really? |
| 23:56.57 | Thunder_Child | looks |
| 23:57.24 | Thunder_Child | thanks kd3, the sad part is i think i disabled it myeslf |
| 23:59.14 | bleeter | mm anyone noticed how dalaran is like the hotel california? all these visitors checking in, but never leaving... |
| 23:59.39 | bleeter | goes looking for the pink champagne on ice |
| 23:59.58 | Dagmar | Where's the cannibalism? |
