| 00:00.01 | bleeter | Tekkub: which pic? back of box? |
| 00:00.24 | bleeter | I'm having a lol at the lvl 60 dwarf called 'hammerfall'... IRL he'd have been reported ages ago ;) |
| 00:00.42 | Tekkub | I don't remember, I don't have the box anymore :) |
| 00:00.57 | Tekkub | I just remember this corny shot of a party killing a dragon |
| 00:01.06 | mikma | bleeter: why reported? |
| 00:01.12 | bleeter | ah well there's a painted graphic inside the box, some toons taking on a dragon. screenshot on back of box, not really a dragon so idk |
| 00:01.32 | bleeter | mikma: shouldn't name toons after WoW NPCs and Locations, iirc. rule violation. |
| 00:01.47 | kd3 | he's also got a lowercase h... |
| 00:01.51 | mikma | well our server has Jessicaalba |
| 00:01.54 | bleeter | ah yeah that too |
| 00:01.58 | kd3 | and teebu's blazing longsword... |
| 00:02.11 | kd3 | that's legendary |
| 00:02.38 | bleeter | it's also got a boomkin with bloody big feet |
| 00:02.50 | mikma | hmm |
| 00:03.07 | bleeter | that boomkin's feet are bigger than it's wings lol |
| 00:03.19 | mikma | most stupid name i have reported and which got changes was "Cpfart" |
| 00:03.38 | mikma | my irl friend reported a toon in our guild once |
| 00:04.04 | mikma | he had too hard name to type.. and gm's made him change that haha |
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| 00:07.07 | bleeter | <insert lame pretend didn't see Iriel join insult here> |
| 00:07.17 | bleeter | oh, hi Iriel ;) |
| 00:07.33 | Cide | creative! |
| 00:07.41 | Kirov | lazy! |
| 00:08.13 | Tekkub | I think I like Quizno's even more now... http://www.flickr.com/photos/26681170@N03/3352731710/ |
| 00:08.20 | Iriel | I'm sure you all have better things to do than insult me when i'm not here anyway |
| 00:08.53 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/will_sleep_for_food_cat.jpg |
| 00:09.19 | mikma | no, we don't |
| 00:09.32 | bleeter | Iriel: that's what we'd like you to beleive, at least, and glad to see it's working ;) |
| 00:10.05 | Iriel | How do you know i dont hang out amongst you all day, in disguise? |
| 00:11.04 | Thunder_Child | because you have better things to do than that Iriel |
| 00:11.06 | Tekkub | we know |
| 00:11.44 | mikma | we have this thing called "irieldar" |
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| 00:12.00 | mikma | detects the presence of iriel |
| 00:12.04 | Kirov | All this time Iriel has been masquerading as ChanServ |
| 00:15.55 | bleeter | so given the GMs have announced they'll be forcefully removing lowbie toons from WG... does anyone know what the dfinition of lowbie is, or is it a case by case basis when reported? |
| 00:16.15 | bleeter | I've been hacking on the Wintergrasper addon, and would love to add a level check in to help the effort... |
| 00:16.22 | bleeter | ... even if I disagree with the level ban. |
| 00:16.46 | bleeter | (reasked 'coz some folks have /parted/joined) |
| 00:20.08 | mikma | hahahaxx |
| 00:22.29 | Thunder_Child | wth...superior wizard oil has a level cap? |
| 00:22.50 | Kirov | yep |
| 00:22.55 | Kirov | 75 or so |
| 00:23.00 | Thunder_Child | thats pure fail |
| 00:23.07 | Thunder_Child | shouldnt be a cap |
| 00:23.44 | Kirov | It's another one of those wonderful "they intended to replace it, but didn't have time, so you get nothing" things. |
| 00:23.57 | Kirov | Like mount speed increases. |
| 00:23.58 | Thunder_Child | there is nothing higher? |
| 00:24.15 | Kirov | Fuck, give us a damn mount speed minor glyph already and be done with it. |
| 00:24.39 | Hjalte | I don't think they wanted to replace it. They just wanted to make warlocks, rogues and shamans feel special since they can put stuff on their weapons. |
| 00:25.34 | Dewin | It's not a player level cap, it's an itemlevel cap |
| 00:28.10 | Thunder_Child | no one said player level |
| 00:28.14 | mikma | Dont forget dk's |
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| 00:28.43 | mikma | runes = <3 |
| 00:31.41 | bleeter | well a 58DK can outrun an 80... |
| 00:31.51 | bleeter | Kirov: ^^ |
| 00:32.16 | bleeter | heck, 55 DK even (that's the start level iirc) |
| 00:32.22 | bleeter | and that makes no sense at all |
| 00:32.24 | NeoTron | it's capped (weapon item level) to 1) remove it as a required raid buff, 2) to give the classes with their own weapon buffs a benefit worthy of using the own buff |
| 00:32.47 | bleeter | but, just coz a brand new DK with a couple of enchs and a trinket can run down an 80, don't mean they'll beat the 80 to a pulp |
| 00:32.52 | Kirov | 3) Profit! |
| 00:33.49 | Kirov | Less about PvP, and more about getting to the damn instances. |
| 00:35.32 | Dagmar | bleeter: Yes, mainly it amounts to whether or not they just chased down another DK |
| 00:36.16 | NeoTron | Kirov: and btw they did NOT intend to replace the temporary weapon enchants |
| 00:36.23 | NeoTron | they intended to remove them, like they did |
| 00:36.51 | NeoTron | now lack of mount speed enchant is bizarre |
| 00:37.18 | bleeter | why we can't just 'learn' the riding crop as a passive ability, beats the fuck outta me |
| 00:37.55 | nevcairiel | I liked the idea of one crop per mount, but that was dumped when they moved mounts into the pet tab |
| 00:37.58 | nevcairiel | so uh |
| 00:38.11 | bleeter | riding crops went from the most profitable LW item to the most useful lolol |
| 00:38.19 | Hjalte | Blizzard already stated that they think current epic flying mounts are too fast. That may be why. |
| 00:39.00 | NeoTron | they did state that they did intend to replace it too though |
| 00:39.11 | NeoTron | they never (completely) changed that statement |
| 00:39.23 | NeoTron | a minor glyph would be the easiest solution |
| 00:39.23 | bleeter | and having it as only usable for 2 levels is a big joke |
| 00:39.27 | bleeter | considering the mats and stuff |
| 00:39.40 | bleeter | if it were a craftable BoA, might be diff |
| 00:39.45 | bleeter | *BtA |
| 00:40.02 | bleeter | but then you'd have to invent a tradable B2A mechanics ugh |
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| 00:40.43 | Shirik | BoA items are already tradeable :P |
| 00:40.51 | bleeter | they should at least just remove it from the game, or change the mats on the crop from primals to essences |
| 00:41.32 | nevcairiel | Shirik: with who are you supposed to trade a BoA item? |
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| 00:41.45 | Shirik | transfer char to other person's account with item, move item to their char, transfer char back, done |
| 00:41.56 | bleeter | .... lol FAILRIK |
| 00:42.14 | mikma | like that works |
| 00:42.28 | nevcairiel | Rather pricy boa trading |
| 00:42.35 | Shirik | :P |
| 00:42.40 | nevcairiel | also |
| 00:42.42 | nevcairiel | ~failrik |
| 00:42.43 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 00:44.03 | bleeter | i'd post the above to suggestions but I'm mighty tired of obvious suggestion is obvious posts after dealing with CSF this week |
| 00:44.40 | bleeter | trying to get them to attach the content of a ticket to a GM to the request for a survey on said GM's performance, so customers can tell which GM did what etc., is like extracting teeth |
| 00:46.59 | bleeter | the best bit was when the GMs mailed me and asked me a bunch of questions about it... from DONOTREPLY@ .... gg dudes |
| 00:47.19 | kraftman | is there a GetUIScale() ? |
| 00:47.39 | mikma | UIParent:GetScale() |
| 00:47.44 | kraftman | thanks a lot :D |
| 00:47.52 | Tuller | hurray for the animation system no longer crashing, yay |
| 00:47.53 | mikma | or GetCVar(uiScale) |
| 00:47.56 | mikma | or something |
| 00:48.04 | Tuller | quotes |
| 00:48.06 | kraftman | yeh thats perfect, cheers |
| 00:49.23 | bleeter | Tuller: yay for no crashy! ... oh, any chance I could ask for a feature in combuctor? a display of empty/total bank slots? when I'm filtering and stuff, the only way to see how many slots I have left avail is to unfilter... kinda annoying. Just thought I'd ask :) |
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| 00:49.49 | bleeter | toon bag slots are handled by default UI, that's cool. bank though.. :( |
| 00:49.51 | Tuller | if i'm in the mood to do it, i'll be doing a lot of combuctor/bagnon work this weekend |
| 00:50.07 | bleeter | oh cheers.. didn't expect you to.. just thought I'd throow it out there :) |
| 00:50.23 | Tuller | i still see myself killing one or the other project, though |
| 00:50.40 | bleeter | i'm more glad you don't think it's a totally satupid and worthless idea :D |
| 00:50.53 | bleeter | yeah fair enough, must be some nasty duplication of work going on for you there |
| 00:50.58 | nevcairiel | Tuller: kill bagnon or i kill you :) |
| 00:51.04 | mikma | tuller: i have a request for combuctor too! make it ace-free! |
| 00:51.11 | Tuller | why? :P |
| 00:51.13 | bleeter | Tuller: kill combuctor I kill you |
| 00:51.29 | bleeter | :P |
| 00:51.54 | nevcairiel | i would hate having to patch another addon myself |
| 00:52.10 | Tuller | i mean on the nix ace stuff :P |
| 00:52.25 | nevcairiel | mikma is just a hater |
| 00:52.50 | mikma | yeah, right on |
| 00:53.07 | Tuller | to be fair, combuctor started life as a dongle project |
| 00:53.11 | Tuller | or was it no libs |
| 00:53.24 | mikma | then you ruined it |
| 00:54.06 | Tuller | bah :P |
| 00:54.33 | Tuller | and if I maintain combuctor, I wanna see people making set packages :P |
| 00:55.08 | mikma | i dont use the addon because i am a hater |
| 00:55.17 | mikma | i would, but, bleh |
| 00:55.24 | mikma | best inv addon ever imho |
| 00:56.26 | Tuller | clearly nev has yet to see the epic left side spellbutton tabs |
| 00:57.04 | mikma | lolo, left? |
| 00:57.11 | Tuller | yes |
| 00:58.14 | nevcairiel | I only know the right-hand tabs |
| 00:58.26 | mikma | me too hehe |
| 00:58.40 | Tuller | that's because left side ones are only in the dev version |
| 00:58.51 | nevcairiel | more dev then your trunk? |
| 00:58.56 | nevcairiel | i already get breakage all the time |
| 00:59.09 | Tuller | nope |
| 00:59.16 | Tuller | dev == trunk :P |
| 00:59.27 | nevcairiel | I wonder if i forgot to update |
| 00:59.31 | Tuller | which is funny, since I made a 3.1 branch |
| 00:59.49 | bleeter | can anyone tell me why this code http://bleeter.pastey.net/110112 results in an error being thrown that the person executing the code is 'busy'. surely QuestLogPushQuest wouldn't push to yourself? |
| 01:00.26 | Tuller | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.55 | nevcairiel | ah its off |
| 01:02.40 | Tuller | bleeter: perhaps you're sending a lot of stuff at once? |
| 01:02.47 | smcn | bleeter assuming that's quest sharing, i've seen it happen sharing quests normally, i think it's just a problem with the format string |
| 01:03.24 | bleeter | hmm, so maybe a small wait on each iteration of the quest push loop |
| 01:04.00 | bleeter | I'm just sick of the WG 'pls share quests' at the start of every battle, so this thing shares it every now and then during form up and at start etc. |
| 01:06.02 | mikma | Lol wg |
| 01:06.17 | mikma | who really supports that shit |
| 01:07.59 | Shirik | cog|away: ping for whenever you get back |
| 01:08.17 | nevcairiel | you sure you still need him then? |
| 01:08.25 | Shirik | :/ |
| 01:08.30 | Shirik | Well if nobody else answers the question first! |
| 01:09.57 | nevcairiel | You should ask it, then |
| 01:11.14 | Shirik | well it's a TradeWars question |
| 01:11.23 | Shirik | I assumed 99% of the people in here wouldn't know the answer |
| 01:12.46 | sacarasc | So 1.59 people will know the answer? |
| 01:13.59 | Shirik | and that 1.59 people are cog|away and Esamynn|Away |
| 01:14.08 | Shirik | (Which one is the .59 is up to you to figure out) |
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| 01:14.57 | sacarasc | I'd like to think they're 0.795 each. |
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| 01:17.14 | Iriel | Shirik: is your question not answered in the docs? |
| 01:17.33 | Shirik | I looked at them briefly but didn't see it; I'm going to go check it again once I get to a relatively safe place :P |
| 01:22.24 | Torhal | Hrm. Blizzard Background downloader is grabbing WoW-3.0.9.9551-to-3.1.0-enUS-patch, which is 555MB in size. |
| 01:23.09 | nevcairiel | probably pushing artwork down the pipe already |
| 01:24.23 | Torhal | I'd hope - way too early for 3.1 |
| 01:24.44 | kd3 | it's artwork and music |
| 01:25.21 | sacarasc | enGB is 594MB. |
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| 01:30.49 | mikma | ~8ball |
| 01:30.50 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: My reply is no |
| 01:31.03 | mikma | kd3: there you go: no |
| 01:35.59 | Kalroth | Torhal: http://80.239.178.130/background/WoW-3.0.9.9551-x86-Win-enGB-BKGND.torrent (I'm guessing you can just replace enGB with enUS :) |
| 01:36.33 | Kalroth | Maybe not, since it's an european IP |
| 01:37.18 | Torhal | Kalroth: I'm not too pressed, considering I don't anticipate 3.1 being out until late April or early May, but thankye :) |
| 01:37.32 | Kalroth | haha |
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| 01:55.57 | ZorbaBeta | ugh oldworld questlines |
| 01:56.16 | ZorbaBeta | "Welcome to Winterspring! Go gather some relic bits, then bring them to the Eastern Plaguelands." "Hey hey welcome to EPL! Okay back to Winterspring with you" agghhhh |
| 01:57.09 | bleeter | ZorbaBeta: l2bmage or durid or engi ;) |
| 01:57.23 | ZorbaBeta | thankfully I am engi, and I've got the kirin tor ring also, which helps |
| 01:57.35 | Dagmar | Hint: There's an option to turn off Bittorrent in the downloader, which leaves it with the sole option of the HTTP server it knows about |
| 01:57.38 | ZorbaBeta | but still, blizzard. wtf. |
| 01:58.15 | Dagmar | ...although if it's a small enough update (100Mb IIRC) you can go to wowwiki, search "PTR Patch Mirrors" and use Rapidshare's free download option |
| 02:02.35 | WobWork | goddamn your bloody american DST |
| 02:02.46 | Tekkub | we hate it too |
| 02:02.52 | WobWork | made me miss my raid |
| 02:03.02 | Dagmar | You guys need to coordinate by server time then |
| 02:03.05 | ZorbaBeta | yeah I think there are very few people in the US who actually think DST is a good idea |
| 02:03.05 | Dagmar | ...or GMT |
| 02:03.13 | ZorbaBeta | I have no idea why we don't just get rid of it |
| 02:03.16 | Dagmar | ZorbaBeta: Could be worse |
| 02:03.30 | Tekkub | because the gov't keeps saying it saves energy |
| 02:03.31 | Dagmar | We've got a whole pile of senators who thought changing that would make more daylight. |
| 02:03.42 | ZorbaBeta | dagmar, la la la i can't hear you la la la |
| 02:03.56 | Dagmar | Dude, you're preaching to the choir there |
| 02:04.01 | ZorbaBeta | tekkub, but *actual studies* show that, if it has any effect whatsoever, it's *negative* :( |
| 02:04.09 | Tekkub | so? |
| 02:04.11 | Dagmar | I kept waiting for someone to say to the press "Have these people all lost their minds?" |
| 02:04.12 | ZorbaBeta | of course why would the government care about facts |
| 02:04.16 | Tekkub | what does that prove to the gov't? |
| 02:04.18 | ZorbaBeta | dagmar, they had minds? |
| 02:05.04 | Dagmar | Arizona, as a matter of trivia, has enough daylight to suit them already. |
| 02:05.32 | ZorbaBeta | we should just ship daylight from Arizona to DC or something. make the politicians think everything is OK |
| 02:14.33 | Thunder_Child | ~patchnotes |
| 02:14.34 | purl | The latest patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/ and the latest Test Realm patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
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| 02:22.44 | kd3 | "Flint and Tinder is no longer necessary for creating a campfire. You're just that resourceful!" |
| 02:22.45 | kd3 | yay! |
| 02:23.16 | Dagmar | THey're mentioning that *now*? |
| 02:23.25 | Legorol | that's been in for ages |
| 02:23.28 | Dagmar | It's been that way on live for a couple months at least |
| 02:23.30 | Legorol | well not ages, but since 3.0.8 |
| 02:23.51 | Dagmar | At first I thought it was just a perk of the army knife |
| 02:24.31 | Legorol | oh wait hold on |
| 02:24.36 | Legorol | this is in fact *new* |
| 02:24.43 | Legorol | it's the timber requirement they removed in 3.0.8 |
| 02:24.44 | Dagmar | How? |
| 02:24.49 | Legorol | you still need flint and tinder or army knife |
| 02:24.58 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 02:25.12 | Dagmar | No one's taking my gnomish army knife away |
| 02:26.51 | kd3 | "Badges and Emblems looted off of any dungeon bosses by a member of the party or raid will automatically be given to all eligible party or raid members. Party or raid members must still be inside the instance to receive Badges or Emblems." |
| 02:26.57 | kd3 | no more "get off the chest!" finally |
| 02:27.09 | Legorol | that is imba |
| 02:27.17 | Legorol | speaking of looting |
| 02:27.25 | Legorol | you know how you can miss out on loot if you have released |
| 02:27.41 | Dagmar | Yay! No more alcohol tax on badges! |
| 02:27.41 | Legorol | what are the exact circumstances for that to happen, and is there anything you can still do to get the item? |
| 02:28.02 | kd3 | dunno about exact circumstances, but paging a gm should resolve the situation |
| 02:28.25 | Legorol | what i mean is: when does a character get put on the loot list of a boss? |
| 02:28.33 | Legorol | if they release mid-fight, are they still on it? |
| 02:28.37 | Dagmar | Far as I know, when someone breaks the "seal" on the loot |
| 02:28.38 | Legorol | and able to loot for example emblems? |
| 02:28.48 | kd3 | the instant they're on the aggro table they should be eligible |
| 02:29.12 | Legorol | Dagmar: i know for a fact that that's not quite how it works, if you release mid-battle, you can still loot emblems, just don't get to roll on items |
| 02:29.24 | Legorol | kd3's sounds more like it |
| 02:29.34 | Dagmar | I suspect that's got more to do with how the emblems are generated actually |
| 02:29.39 | bleeter | EAT DRUMS EAT DRUMS |
| 02:29.57 | Legorol | under group loot, when we had someone release after the boss died, an idiot looted |
| 02:30.10 | Legorol | the need/greed roll window came up for everyone still inside, but not hte person who released |
| 02:30.17 | Legorol | all passed, and said person could come in and loot the item |
| 02:30.22 | Dagmar | Yeah, they weren't in the instance when the seal was broken |
| 02:30.47 | Legorol | yup, so no roll, but they could loot it after everyone passed |
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| 02:31.08 | Dagmar | I *suspect* they could get it because everyone passed |
| 02:31.13 | Dagmar | I've seen it happen before |
| 02:31.29 | Legorol | but i think if someone's outside when the seal is broken, they won't appear on the ML list |
| 02:32.01 | Legorol | which is why you always, always have stupid issue in EoE with someone looting the chest whilst dead people are running back |
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| 02:33.36 | Dagmar | Makes my glad my guild are pretty casual |
| 02:34.04 | Dagmar | We've actually gotten halfway down the exit hall before realizing no one even looked in the bosses pockets before |
| 02:34.26 | Dagmar | Not that that's such a great thing, we've also gotten to the first boss in Naxx before realizing we were doing it in Heroic mode, too |
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| 04:15.59 | Tekkub | what's the shortest time between a najor patch hitting PTR and it going live? |
| 04:16.10 | Tekkub | *major' |
| 04:18.31 | Zyndrome | "When it's done" |
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| 04:22.51 | Tekkub | I just bet a guildie that we won't see 3.1 for a month |
| 04:23.02 | kd3 | pretty good bet |
| 04:23.06 | Tekkub | he thinks that the background download means we'll see it in two weeks |
| 04:23.13 | Dagmar | Yeah if you lose you can always find more guildmates. |
| 04:23.18 | Tekkub | I'm quietly laughing at him |
| 04:23.19 | kd3 | lies, the bgd's been up for a good month before |
| 04:23.42 | Tekkub | Dagmar, 30 to my name today, not worried about having 1k to spare in a month :) |
| 04:23.48 | Dagmar | Yeah with a patch that's going to be at least a Gb in size they're really, really going to want that background downloader priming the pump |
| 04:24.18 | Tekkub | this happens with every big patch, bg has like 3 parts, first one's huge |
| 04:24.21 | Dagmar | Tekkub: I think you missed the joke. I chose to interepret your statement as if you had wagered a guildmate, not wagered with a guildmate. |
| 04:24.37 | Tekkub | yes I got it, I just didn't think it was funny :P |
| 04:24.44 | Dagmar | Ah well I tried |
| 04:24.50 | Tekkub | try harder |
| 04:25.35 | Tekkub | 2.1 was on PTR for a month and a half.. |
| 04:26.15 | Tekkub | 2.2 looks like about 2 months |
| 04:26.39 | Dagmar | Hopefully they'll get rid of more of the bugs that 3.0.x introduced |
| 04:26.41 | Tekkub | 2.3 about a month |
| 04:26.46 | Dagmar | I'm getting tired of feeding the pets |
| 04:27.02 | Dagmar | ...and I'm starting to suspect all three of my important glyphs might be bugged. |
| 04:28.03 | Tekkub | 2.4 was a month and a half |
| 04:28.10 | Tekkub | how long have we had this PTR? |
| 04:28.19 | kd3 | 2? 3 weeks? |
| 04:28.26 | Dagmar | Coming up on a month next week I think |
| 04:28.31 | Dagmar | Not very long at all |
| 04:28.44 | Dagmar | ...especially considering the size of the patch |
| 04:28.46 | Tekkub | 24th it looks like |
| 04:28.54 | Tekkub | so 2.5 weeks |
| 04:29.19 | Tekkub | we got *at least* a week and a half of PTR left then |
| 04:29.43 | Tekkub | so yea, odds are in my favor :) |
| 04:33.45 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, i was talking to you about recount right? |
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| 04:37.47 | AbsolutRayne | Evening |
| 04:40.24 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: you were? |
| 04:43.07 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: have you been to sector 3564? |
| 04:43.24 | Shirik | oh god how the hell would I know |
| 04:43.38 | Arrowmaster | it had a becon |
| 04:43.48 | Arrowmaster | and a funny port name |
| 04:44.25 | Tekkub | ah I love wowinsider giving bad advice |
| 04:44.29 | Shirik | apparently I have been there, but don't remember it |
| 04:44.43 | Tekkub | "stockpile mats and then craft them up after patch day" |
| 04:45.07 | Tekkub | better advice: stockpile mats and sell them if the raw price is higher than the processed price, which it most likely will be |
| 04:47.35 | Dagmar | Pretty much. |
| 04:47.54 | Dagmar | The window of profit on the new stuff will last about 3-6 hours if the recipes are readily available |
| 04:48.02 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, not you then? |
| 04:54.45 | AbsolutRayne | Seems like Cellular and ChatSounds dont get along well... |
| 05:01.28 | AbsolutRayne | So is it me, or are the bear mounts bugged atm so that they dont roar when you hit the spacebar |
| 05:02.03 | Dewin | That would be nice. |
| 05:02.06 | Dewin | They make too much noise as is |
| 05:03.52 | AbsolutRayne | I miss my Roaring Polar Bear |
| 05:03.55 | AbsolutRayne | :( |
| 05:07.12 | Shirik | wtf, Arrowmaster has a higher rank than me! |
| 05:07.14 | Shirik | this is unacceptable |
| 05:07.23 | kd3 | ? |
| 05:07.35 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, ping |
| 05:07.43 | NightHawkTheSane | pong |
| 05:08.16 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, me and our tank have a 600dps difference small? |
| 05:08.22 | Thunder_Child | for recount |
| 05:08.26 | ZorbaBeta | tekkub, see, that advice isn't designed for the people reading wowinsider |
| 05:08.37 | ZorbaBeta | it's designed for the people *writing* wowinsider, who are trying to guarantee a cheap source of crafted stuff |
| 05:09.10 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: rofl i just had 69 credits and got back upto 100k in just a minute or two |
| 05:09.17 | Shirik | I have no turns :( |
| 05:09.44 | Shirik | been wasting too much of it on strategory, in the infamous words of George W. Bush |
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| 05:10.55 | Arrowmaster | crap 40 turns from home sector and only 10 turns left |
| 05:11.13 | Shirik | haha |
| 05:16.21 | Arrowmaster | haha i had 150 organics in my hold and the sector i was in was purchasing organics and selling fuel ore |
| 05:16.26 | Arrowmaster | and i have a transwarp drive |
| 05:16.51 | Arrowmaster | eh wtf |
| 05:16.59 | Shirik | hm? |
| 05:17.09 | Arrowmaster | i left a fighter on my home planet but i cant transwarp |
| 05:17.29 | Arrowmaster | blind jump? |
| 05:17.39 | Shirik | ? |
| 05:17.43 | Arrowmaster | should i |
| 05:18.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: I checked some thaddius parses today, and i couldn't see any significant difference in the numbers |
| 05:18.13 | Shirik | that sounds like a bad idea |
| 05:18.16 | Shirik | but I've never used transwarp |
| 05:18.18 | Shirik | so don't listen to me |
| 05:18.27 | Arrowmaster | do you even have one? |
| 05:18.30 | NightHawkTheSane | -most- of the numbers were exactly the same, actually |
| 05:18.40 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, ours is from an entire naxx raid |
| 05:18.58 | Thunder_Child | mine says 2.1K dps vers his saying 2.7K dps |
| 05:19.09 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* per-fight parses are really all that matters |
| 05:19.38 | NightHawkTheSane | but, i dont really know why that difference would occur. were you dead and maybe out of range par tof the time? |
| 05:20.08 | NightHawkTheSane | also, dps is a fictional number, the absolute damage numbers are what you should compare |
| 05:20.37 | Thunder_Child | possible NightHawkTheSane, i die often |
| 05:20.50 | NightHawkTheSane | that could definitly cause it, especially if you release and hoof it back |
| 05:20.58 | NightHawkTheSane | or the raid moves on while you get rezzed |
| 05:21.00 | Shirik | no Arrowmaster |
| 05:21.04 | Shirik | haven't bought one yet |
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| 05:27.24 | AnduinLothar | SotA is fun now that i can work the vehicals lol |
| 05:27.38 | AnduinLothar | finally got my vehical bar straitened out |
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| 05:35.55 | durcyn | next, we work on spelling. |
| 05:36.58 | AnduinLothar | nah, i've been procrastinating that my whole life, why stop now |
| 05:37.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm probably a bit slow but |
| 05:37.15 | ScytheBlade1 | The glider servers are offline! |
| 05:37.20 | ScytheBlade1 | http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=205557 |
| 05:37.36 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, but why isnt it being sent to my combat log? |
| 05:38.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: er. if you're not in the instance, you wont get CLEU messages from inside. And i think there -is- a range at which you stop getting CLEU messages, I think it's the point at which an object would stop rendering for you, which is pretty big, but I could be wrong. |
| 05:39.04 | Thunder_Child | really? i figure it would be instance wide in an instance |
| 05:39.45 | NightHawkTheSane | well, if an instance is big enough that you can stand at point a, and mobs at point b aren't rendered, then why would you get CLEU messages generated by anything at point b? |
| 05:40.09 | Shirik | Arrowmaster, do I have to hurt you? |
| 05:40.10 | Thunder_Child | because it would be an instance wide sending |
| 05:40.18 | smcn | i've gotten cleu messages from someone in HFP from silvermoon that wasn't in my party, and it was only 1 random person |
| 05:40.20 | smcn | :P |
| 05:40.45 | durcyn | smcn: bug, not feature |
| 05:40.47 | NightHawkTheSane | smcn: o_0 sounds like a glitch, and screenshots or it didn't happen :P |
| 05:41.00 | smcn | i know, just thought i'd throw that out there ;p |
| 05:41.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: as far as i understand the combat log events, and events in general, I don't think that's possible |
| 05:41.06 | smcn | and i think i did take a ss |
| 05:41.15 | Arrowmaster | that happened a lot right after 2.4 |
| 05:41.22 | NightHawkTheSane | I'll gladly grant that I could be VERY wrong. |
| 05:41.57 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, why not? they can brodcast |
| 05:42.13 | Thunder_Child | instance wide with no issues |
| 05:43.11 | durcyn | CLEU's based on the player's range, case in point: kalecgos/sathrovarr |
| 05:43.12 | NightHawkTheSane | well, let me rephrase. I don't know how -possible- it is, but as far as i understand the combat log events, and how they work, thats not how it -does- work. again, i could still be wrong. |
| 05:43.30 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: exactly, yeah |
| 05:43.33 | durcyn | if it's out of range, you don't get events, period |
| 05:45.53 | Thunder_Child | in that case...in a comparison of you on yours or someone elses log, how would they be different. i am always going to get my damage recorded regardles of distance |
| 05:46.08 | Thunder_Child | s/or/and/ |
| 05:47.13 | NightHawkTheSane | it could be entirely possible that recount is dropping CLEU messages.. |
| 05:47.18 | durcyn | it's been my experience that any and all player actions are recorded in one's own log regardless of range, yes. though if someone else were out of range, they might miss some of your events and have mismatched data |
| 05:47.31 | durcyn | but again, that only happens on a few fights like kalecgos and sartharion |
| 05:48.01 | Thunder_Child | durcyn, i mean there is an inconsistancy between my recount and his, about me |
| 05:48.10 | durcyn | Thunder_Child: when and where? |
| 05:48.23 | Thunder_Child | durcyn, over the cource of naxx25 tonight |
| 05:48.49 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: well, it could probably also happen if someone dies on trash at the end of a wing in naxx, releases and zones in, they might not see CLEU messages from the raid until they get closer |
| 05:48.51 | durcyn | and you two were joined at the hip the entire time, using the same version of recount? :/ |
| 05:48.59 | durcyn | NightHawkTheSane: yes, exactly |
| 05:49.02 | Thunder_Child | durcyn, same version yes, joined no |
| 05:49.08 | NightHawkTheSane | so its not just phasing that would cause that |
| 05:49.22 | durcyn | remember, old combat log range maxed at 200 yards, render range is a tad less |
| 05:49.23 | Thunder_Child | but if i always get info about me whats changing..... |
| 05:49.29 | durcyn | it works out to around 150 yards most times |
| 05:49.39 | Thunder_Child | s/me/me,/ |
| 05:49.59 | durcyn | it could also be a bug in CLEU, not ever ability is coded correctly |
| 05:50.17 | durcyn | did you notice mismatches in particular abilities, or across everything? |
| 05:50.34 | smcn | http://i43.tinypic.com/2ywhnjd.jpg finally found it, 7/1/2008 :P |
| 05:50.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: we're talking about yours showing 2.1kdps and his showing 2.7kdps yes? |
| 05:50.49 | Thunder_Child | i wasnt matching exactly since he isnt very savy, so it was just the final number |
| 05:50.55 | Thunder_Child | yes NightHawkTheSane |
| 05:51.22 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i still say dps is a poor gauge for that, do you have the absolute numbers you and him had? :P |
| 05:51.28 | NightHawkTheSane | smcn: nice :) |
| 05:51.31 | durcyn | recount dps is based on combat time, your combat times won't be identical |
| 05:51.36 | durcyn | look at total damage done |
| 05:51.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 05:52.17 | Thunder_Child | checking....if i can |
| 05:52.55 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: that's actually another thing i was idly wondering. is the timestamp on a CLEU event sent by the server or generated by the client? could two different clients see the same CLEU but record different timestamps for it in the log? |
| 05:53.43 | Thunder_Child | cant, he reset it already |
| 05:53.57 | Thunder_Child | i'll check the next run we go...tomorrows OS25 i surmise |
| 05:54.03 | durcyn | i'm not sure about timestamps, i want to say client-side since it takes timezone into effect for /combatlog |
| 05:54.13 | durcyn | that's a good question though |
| 05:54.34 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: if it's clientside, that means latency/lag could affect what timestamps are generated.. which makes me wonder how wws merges logs.. |
| 05:54.44 | durcyn | NightHawkTheSane: badly. |
| 05:54.51 | NightHawkTheSane | unless there's some uniqueid parameter i missed. |
| 05:54.59 | NightHawkTheSane | hah. |
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| 06:05.13 | |Jelly| | Any tips for leveling weapon skills? |
| 06:05.40 | |Jelly| | other than using it, obviously |
| 06:05.44 | Codex| | theres a banished dragon above bt in smv |
| 06:05.55 | Codex| | go beat on it |
| 06:06.02 | Codex| | and get ai cast on u |
| 06:06.40 | Dewin | Unless they fixed it |
| 06:06.53 | Dewin | you can go into shadow labs |
| 06:06.58 | Dewin | sneak to the first boss, who's banished |
| 06:07.00 | Dewin | and whack on him |
| 06:07.48 | |Jelly| | rock on |
| 06:07.54 | |Jelly| | new weapon ... no skill. lol |
| 06:10.41 | |Jelly| | Hope they didn't fix it. Never got the SLabs key on my DK. |
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| 06:13.32 | durcyn | go to dire maul, banished mobs around king gordok work |
| 06:15.36 | Dagmar | If you're on a PvE server there's a nice cave in Dragonblight |
| 06:15.51 | |Jelly| | not pve :-\ |
| 06:15.54 | Dagmar | There's a guy in there too busy trying to res a dragon to really notice much. |
| 06:20.53 | Tekkub | or the slave guys in the blue manly woman mine in storm peaks |
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| 06:49.27 | Thunder_Child | ok, durcyn NightHawkTheSane, i just did EoE10 MT's says 1122485 total dmg for me and mine says 1127154 |
| 06:49.41 | Thunder_Child | s/10/10,/ |
| 06:49.56 | Thunder_Child | neither of us died |
| 06:50.08 | Thunder_Child | and obviously we were not that far away from eachother |
| 06:56.45 | NightHawkTheSane | That's a.. what.. .4% difference in total damage? Not significant. I'm curious as to -why- it's different. I don't quite understand that. |
| 06:57.09 | NightHawkTheSane | But I dont think it significantly effects the usability of recount, or necessitates syncing. |
| 06:57.11 | Thunder_Child | ya, thats what i'm wondering as well |
| 06:57.58 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, not much over a 10min fight but it might be more over a 4 hour instance |
| 07:00.34 | Thunder_Child | brb |
| 07:11.46 | |Jelly| | The guy on BT is fixed. |
| 07:14.43 | |Jelly| | and apparently the guy in SLabs too. |
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| 07:39.13 | Tekkub | http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1243/3353384840_05d5e8bf8d_o.png |
| 07:39.15 | Tekkub | wheee! |
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| 08:55.40 | Tem | so |
| 08:55.43 | Tem | I just soloed ony |
| 08:55.49 | Tem | and she dropped 2 ony hide bags |
| 08:55.51 | Tem | is that normal? |
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| 09:00.51 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 09:00.54 | Xinhuan | she can drop one or two |
| 09:08.45 | Thunder_Child | is it wrong to switch your main? |
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| 09:17.21 | selckin | no? |
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| 09:18.31 | Thunder_Child | ~moo |
| 09:18.32 | purl | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
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| 09:34.57 | jnwhiteh | http://apidiff.pastey.net/110178 |
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| 09:46.56 | jnwhiteh | Tem: what class? |
| 09:59.14 | Xinhuan | jnwhithe, did you get my message about UnitThreatblah() |
| 09:59.20 | Xinhuan | jnwhithe |
| 09:59.30 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan needs tab completion |
| 09:59.42 | Xinhuan | i shuldn't use a script to replace t-e-h with t-h-e |
| 10:00.00 | Xinhuan | i do use tab completion :< |
| 10:00.07 | nevcairiel | not within a word anyway |
| 10:00.56 | jnwhiteh | no i didn't see it |
| 10:01.11 | Xinhuan | appears on PTR they fixed the return values so it can now return nil |
| 10:01.16 | Xinhuan | rather than 0 or higher |
| 10:01.23 | Xinhuan | latest patch that is |
| 10:01.41 | jnwhiteh | good good =) |
| 10:01.49 | jnwhiteh | glad to hear it |
| 10:01.51 | Xinhuan | also, feel free to try: "/run error()" will crash the PTR client |
| 10:01.55 | Xinhuan | with an #134 error |
| 10:01.55 | jnwhiteh | haha |
| 10:01.59 | jnwhiteh | secksy |
| 10:02.13 | jnwhiteh | i'll have to try that |
| 10:02.16 | Xinhuan | unfortunately, i didn't try /run error("abc") |
| 10:02.29 | Xinhuan | after crashing twice with /run error() |
| 10:02.55 | Xinhuan | i was securehooking some func with error() to get the stacktrace of when that function is called |
| 10:03.03 | Xinhuan | and it just crashes wow lol |
| 10:03.22 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 10:03.40 | jnwhiteh | so i can run Storm Gate Patrol |
| 10:03.42 | jnwhiteh | each day |
| 10:04.06 | Xinhuan | did you mean Steel Gate Patrol |
| 10:04.33 | jnwhiteh | ding |
| 10:04.33 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 10:04.36 | jnwhiteh | that too =) |
| 10:04.42 | Xinhuan | why >.> |
| 10:04.46 | jnwhiteh | its so muchf aster to run than the damn bombing run |
| 10:04.49 | jnwhiteh | and i dont have time to play each day |
| 10:04.55 | jnwhiteh | so having a cheap and easy daily that jacks my rep and xp |
| 10:04.57 | jnwhiteh | well, is nice :P |
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| 10:05.12 | jnwhiteh | mage/dk aren't my mains |
| 10:05.19 | jnwhiteh | and i barely have time to play on my main |
| 10:05.56 | Xinhuan | if you are 69, i think sunwell isle dailies are easier lol |
| 10:06.04 | Xinhuan | and give as much gold |
| 10:06.22 | jnwhiteh | and take 10 times as much time |
| 10:06.25 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 10:06.33 | jnwhiteh | this takes me 2 minutes from start to finish |
| 10:07.09 | Xinhuan | takes 3 min to do the bombing one, 3 min for the leylines one and uh |
| 10:07.20 | Xinhuan | and maybe another 3 min for the 5 berry one ;p |
| 10:07.28 | Xinhuan | probably less with nobody on the island |
| 10:07.33 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 10:07.44 | jnwhiteh | well wont' I need VK rep for something? |
| 10:08.19 | Xinhuan | explorer league rep also doesn't offer any rewards currently hehe |
| 10:08.35 | nevcairiel | yeah right now explorer league is useless |
| 10:09.19 | jnwhiteh | hehe fair points |
| 10:09.39 | nevcairiel | do the kaluak daily imho |
| 10:09.50 | jnwhiteh | dunno that one |
| 10:09.55 | jnwhiteh | err not at that point in my questing yet |
| 10:10.10 | nevcairiel | its like, catch two fish, lure some dumb animal to his wife |
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| 10:13.13 | jnwhiteh | I just hate the HF bombing mission |
| 10:13.22 | nevcairiel | on the zeppelin? |
| 10:13.26 | nevcairiel | i like did that once |
| 10:14.01 | Xinhuan | people at lvl 80 just fly there themselves and aoe lol |
| 10:14.31 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 10:14.39 | jnwhiteh | yeah its weird |
| 10:14.42 | jnwhiteh | I can't go ahead of my druid |
| 10:14.45 | jnwhiteh | since he's leveling with sioraiocht |
| 10:14.54 | jnwhiteh | but have two other characters I want ot get near max level |
| 10:15.06 | jnwhiteh | should I focus on the DK or the Mage? |
| 10:15.23 | jnwhiteh | Tom and I want to PVP with my druid and his shaman |
| 10:15.30 | jnwhiteh | is that viable at all? |
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| 10:15.44 | Xinhuan | what specs |
| 10:15.58 | jnwhiteh | i can either boomkin or resto |
| 10:16.06 | jnwhiteh | he's currently enh |
| 10:16.12 | Industrial | shaman faceroll is fun every 3 minutes as enhancement |
| 10:16.21 | Industrial | but in between its meh |
| 10:16.22 | jnwhiteh | not looking to compete at a high level |
| 10:16.35 | Xinhuan | not sure heh, i'm not very experienced in pvp ;p |
| 10:16.48 | jnwhiteh | more just doing it for fun anyway :P |
| 10:17.01 | jnwhiteh | sitting in the same room helps a bit with communication. plus its fun |
| 10:17.06 | jnwhiteh | only 9 more levels to go :P |
| 10:17.40 | Industrial | pop hero,wolves and shamanistic rage, purge the first thing with a shield and make it die :p |
| 10:17.59 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 10:18.07 | jnwhiteh | i'll boomkin to help, then shift out, mebbe =) |
| 10:18.22 | jnwhiteh | hopefully they go for me |
| 10:18.31 | jnwhiteh | I actually have pvp gear, unlike him |
| 10:20.11 | Industrial | brb |
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| 10:22.05 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: lol |
| 10:22.11 | jnwhiteh | SSO is not available to a level 69 |
| 10:22.11 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 10:22.19 | Xinhuan | :< |
| 10:22.31 | jnwhiteh | but i'll move there at 70 |
| 10:22.36 | jnwhiteh | its empty |
| 10:22.40 | jnwhiteh | which will cut down the time it takes by a lot |
| 10:24.33 | jnwhiteh | because that'll be good for money |
| 10:24.43 | jnwhiteh | so TomTom prolly doesn't work on ptr |
| 10:24.47 | jnwhiteh | clique needs spec switching |
| 10:24.49 | jnwhiteh | and.. what else? |
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| 10:28.21 | nevcairiel | On that note, are keybindings supposed to be saved with specs? |
| 10:28.36 | Xinhuan | no |
| 10:29.03 | Xinhuan | only the actionID-(action) pair are saved |
| 10:29.03 | nevcairiel | that sounds like space for an addon |
| 10:29.40 | Xinhuan | the keybind-actionid pair isn't saved or changed |
| 10:29.53 | nevcairiel | i've been wondering if i should do that in BT4 itself are do a generic addon .. generic is probably hard(tm) |
| 10:30.23 | Xinhuan | if the user setup his actions properly, there isn't any need for such an addon at all |
| 10:30.37 | nevcairiel | people requested it |
| 10:30.38 | Xinhuan | why would you need to change keybinds |
| 10:30.47 | Xinhuan | when you can move the actions around to fit the keybinds |
| 10:30.48 | Arrowmaster | do it as a sperate addon |
| 10:31.03 | nevcairiel | You might want the same spells in the same place for viewing their cooldowns etc |
| 10:31.10 | nevcairiel | but you use them differently in other specs |
| 10:31.18 | Arrowmaster | that way you can also do stuff like keys bound to specific spells instead of actionbuttons |
| 10:31.19 | Xinhuan | if the same spell is in the same place, then it would naturally have the same keybind in both specs |
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| 10:31.45 | nevcairiel | yeah but only one spec might need it keybound |
| 10:31.48 | Xinhuan | just seems extremely odd why you would want the same spell in the same pllce, but binded differently in different spec |
| 10:31.52 | nevcairiel | and the other wants another bound |
| 10:31.57 | jnwhiteh | users are weird |
| 10:32.07 | nevcairiel | its not that weird of a feature |
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| 10:32.08 | Xinhuan | i would say its a very fringe case |
| 10:32.14 | Xinhuan | or fringe feature |
| 10:32.19 | nevcairiel | its not |
| 10:32.32 | Arrowmaster | i bind spells directly and not actionbuttons when it comes to the buttons other than 1-0 |
| 10:32.41 | Arrowmaster | except for E |
| 10:33.12 | nevcairiel | I don't want to install another addon just to do that when i can just bind a button =P |
| 10:33.22 | Arrowmaster | i bind e to button 12 since my keypad doesnt have a = |
| 10:35.08 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: like, in my pvp spec i like having cyclone bound to a key, but in pve i don't use it that much really, so i reuse the binding .. but i like having it in the same place to not mess that much up |
| 10:36.33 | nevcairiel | not that i actually pvp that much these days |
| 10:36.42 | nevcairiel | but i used to rebind some keys back in my arena days |
| 10:36.45 | Xinhuan | you could write an addon module to Bt4 for that i guess |
| 10:36.52 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 10:37.08 | Arrowmaster | thats kinda like me talking about my keybinding setup when i dont play anymore either |
| 10:37.34 | nevcairiel | maybe blizzard fixes arena enough to make me want playing anymore |
| 10:37.42 | nevcairiel | s/anymore/again/ |
| 10:38.00 | Arrowmaster | pvp is never my thing |
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| 11:22.05 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOvM_I8t6pY |
| 11:22.10 | Adys | I watched this vid dozens of times |
| 11:22.24 | Adys | and I just bursted out laughing when I actually noticed what he was doing with the second card |
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| 11:32.07 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: ping |
| 11:32.26 | Xinhuan | pong |
| 11:32.53 | jnwhiteh | did you test menuList in the dropdown code? |
| 11:32.57 | jnwhiteh | i.e. that it actually works |
| 11:33.45 | Xinhuan | are you referring to my wowace forum guide? |
| 11:33.48 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 11:33.50 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 11:33.53 | Xinhuan | i tested it |
| 11:34.15 | jnwhiteh | just wanted to make sure |
| 11:34.23 | jnwhiteh | I'm finishing up that chapter and need to detail EasyMenu |
| 11:34.29 | jnwhiteh | and decide whether to use it or cut my own out |
| 11:34.33 | jnwhiteh | tho I think mine is much nicer :P |
| 11:34.39 | Xinhuan | ah, you wish to use portions of my guide? |
| 11:34.46 | WobWork | Adys: putting it in his pocket? |
| 11:34.58 | Adys | WobWork: no |
| 11:35.03 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: not really no, was just looking at the information that's around |
| 11:35.11 | jnwhiteh | most of the prose isn't changing |
| 11:35.17 | jnwhiteh | and easymenu is close to mine |
| 11:35.21 | jnwhiteh | so I can re-use all of that |
| 11:35.28 | jnwhiteh | just need to change the way submenus are defined |
| 11:35.32 | Xinhuan | you may use any portion of it for any purpose, or use the info in my guide to supplement yours |
| 11:35.39 | jnwhiteh | thanks, appreciated. |
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| 11:37.35 | Adys | WobWork: "See I'm not gonna play any wit games with you, I genuinely want to s-- you didn't just see what that card said?" |
| 11:37.41 | Adys | "No" "Is that yes you saw that it said no, or no you didn't see what it said?" |
| 11:37.53 | Adys | completely skipped it |
| 11:37.57 | Adys | twenty times or something |
| 11:40.37 | WobWork | but what do you mean by "doing with the other card" |
| 11:40.53 | WobWork | Sure, he's manipulating him something terrible with confusing his yes and no... |
| 11:41.32 | WobWork | damn you unstable servers |
| 11:41.55 | Adys | By second card |
| 11:42.00 | Adys | I mean the second "round" |
| 11:42.08 | WobWork | oh =) |
| 11:42.29 | Adys | the "see you're guessing" really sticks in |
| 11:42.34 | Adys | you dont even try to work it out further |
| 11:42.40 | WobWork | hehe |
| 11:42.46 | WobWork | you have a flat 50/50 chance of getting it right |
| 11:42.58 | Adys | not if you're manipulated |
| 11:43.01 | WobWork | and sticking to your guns means you're less likely to be dissuaded by the answer |
| 11:43.03 | Adys | guessing is what he should be doing |
| 11:43.29 | WobWork | Sure, but it's deathly easy to confuse your answers when it's as simple as 'yes' and 'no |
| 11:43.30 | WobWork | ' |
| 11:43.41 | selckin | just go yes or no 4 times in a row |
| 11:43.58 | WobWork | Especially if the trickster starts on a ridiculous spiel interspersed with yes and no in different contexts |
| 11:44.03 | WobWork | selckin: yep |
| 11:44.05 | Adys | its what he was doing selckin, didnt notice? :P |
| 11:44.15 | Adys | the first one was a trap, not only the nodding |
| 11:44.24 | Adys | "Do you have a word in your head?" "Yes" |
| 11:44.30 | Adys | well of course he was gonna say yes |
| 11:44.38 | WobWork | "No I don't" |
| 11:44.42 | WobWork | hehe |
| 11:44.51 | Adys | he talks too fast |
| 11:44.52 | WobWork | "Sorry, I'm a moron, no words here!" |
| 11:45.07 | Adys | doesnt give you time to elaborate anything |
| 11:45.13 | Adys | really hes an awesome manipulator |
| 11:45.19 | WobWork | hm, anyone else having issues authenticating? |
| 11:45.29 | Xinhuan | me |
| 11:45.40 | WobWork | Xinhuan: =( |
| 11:45.43 | Xinhuan | asianetcom.net seems fubared on hop12 for me |
| 11:45.54 | Xinhuan | when doing a tracert |
| 11:45.56 | WobWork | I dunno what I should tracert |
| 11:46.09 | Xinhuan | you can tracert 12.129.224.114 |
| 11:46.13 | WobWork | but it's probably the same, although everyone in my guild was reporting lag issues |
| 11:46.15 | Xinhuan | which is blackrock server i believe |
| 11:46.34 | Xinhuan | well, we're on the same cluster of servers at least |
| 11:46.42 | Xinhuan | same BG too |
| 11:46.47 | WobWork | are we? |
| 11:46.49 | Arrowmaster | his slight of hand sucked too |
| 11:46.52 | WobWork | I'm not playing in AD anymore |
| 11:46.55 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 11:47.01 | WobWork | Proudmoore |
| 11:47.05 | Arrowmaster | he was just holding the two cards in different hands and waving them back and forth |
| 11:47.12 | Xinhuan | well that IP is the one wow.exe has active |
| 11:47.15 | Xinhuan | for me at least |
| 11:47.19 | WobWork | Arrowmaster: He wasn't trying for sleight of hand |
| 11:47.28 | WobWork | he was depending on fast talking to trick him |
| 11:47.45 | Arrowmaster | i know but you could just try and keep and eye on the cards |
| 11:48.43 | WobWork | hm, I lose it about 17 at attens.net |
| 11:49.22 | WobWork | alright, who backhoed the internet connection again =P |
| 11:51.42 | Arrowmaster | we dont do that in my state |
| 11:51.55 | Arrowmaster | we dig them up with shovels and shoot them with shotguns |
| 11:52.32 | Arrowmaster | (yes some body seriously did that to a major fibre trunk here) |
| 11:56.17 | Adys | its easy to say as a viewer |
| 11:56.38 | Adys | when you're in front of someone who's already got a good grasp on you you lose control |
| 11:57.17 | Adys | derren often tells people how he tricked someone very early on |
| 11:57.46 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bwWJmE2qPo |
| 11:58.00 | Adys | same trick, first attempt he tells her |
| 11:58.35 | Adys | at that point you just know he's controlling you and you're more focused on fighting that, rather than focusing on whats actually happening |
| 11:58.47 | Adys | the viewer isn't the one being controlled - well generally :P |
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| 12:04.21 | WobWork | of course |
| 12:04.31 | WobWork | Derren tailors the responses to the target |
| 12:04.46 | WobWork | as third party viewers, our reactions are not the target's reactions |
| 12:06.10 | selckin | envelops are so marked |
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| 12:14.11 | WobWork | hehe http://www.najle.com/idaft/ |
| 12:19.58 | WobWork | ~wowalert |
| 12:19.59 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 12:23.04 | WobWork | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SqhhJb_P3Kk/SbkWOkddqLI/AAAAAAAAFyQ/1xVRGthQN3k/s1600-h/God+hates+figs.jpg |
| 12:27.58 | Kalroth | fig you! |
| 12:29.16 | WobWork | you fig! |
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| 12:34.35 | olden | hey, anyone around? |
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| 12:53.58 | Elunedra | how do i know when a player enters or leaves combat ? i didnt find any events for it |
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| 12:55.26 | cbreak | Elunedra: there are two events |
| 12:55.41 | cbreak | for health regen enable/disable |
| 12:56.25 | CoooLLer | hi all. Is there any way to track an occurrence of mark on minimap that tere is near mining or herbal point |
| 12:56.44 | cbreak | no |
| 12:57.02 | Elunedra | hmm lol thanks cbreak i didnt think that far :P |
| 12:59.30 | Industrial | you can also check InCombatLockdown() when you need it |
| 13:00.07 | Elunedra | yes thanks but i rather have the moment of the switch to print out the noob list ;P |
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| 13:05.15 | Industrial | "the noob list" :D? |
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| 13:08.35 | Elunedra | yeh like who failed on archimonde flame or falls or now in LK woh fails on OS3D firewals and shafdow fissure |
| 13:10.23 | selckin | but it's not red |
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| 14:54.39 | Teomyr | note to self: don't debug software that hooks your mouse and keyboard input |
| 14:56.23 | cbreak | ssh :) |
| 14:57.12 | Teomyr | I would, but visual studio is quite reluctant to that |
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| 15:49.45 | mikma | [17:49:34] [Guild] [Snusnu]: Saronire Ores: 193, Titanium Ores: 35 |
| 15:49.49 | mikma | farming can be fun! |
| 15:49.52 | tlund | tlund@eight:/wow1/Logs$ egrep -c 'taint from .*tlund' taint.log-when_landing_on_vehicle_in_combat |
| 15:49.55 | tlund | 18 |
| 15:49.55 | tlund | i fail at coding :) |
| 15:50.22 | mikma | tlund: don't worry about it, that's called learning |
| 15:50.22 | tlund | (and thats from ONE fight) |
| 15:50.28 | tlund | mikma: yeah, i guess :) |
| 15:50.39 | mikma | and most likely you are doing actionbars? |
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| 16:04.42 | Codex| | wow huge mage nerfs 3.1 |
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| 16:24.16 | bleeter | Cairenn|afk: US GM policy on ingame casinos HAS changed. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15659708662&sid=1 So, in EU.. totally not on. In US.. case by case basis... remember that incident last year about buying the chance to get an item out of a guild vault or a raid run using real cash?? yeah... an RNG in the middle of all that... I'm heading for the hills. |
| 16:24.49 | p3lim | hm localization issue |
| 16:25.35 | p3lim | some guy just mailed me zhTW and zhCN localizations, but I cant copy those characters |
| 16:25.44 | bleeter | Cairenn|afk: I can't beleive blizz have opened themselves to possible illegal gambling prosecution.. unless they actually want to be the precedent case ('coz there hasn't been one yet, and some 'standard' gaming company will need to step up at some stage) |
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| 16:29.25 | foxlit | lua> i=1; while 1 do math.randomseed(i); if math.random(2) == 2 then return i; end i = i + 1; end |
| 16:29.25 | lua_bot | foxlit: 1 |
| 16:29.45 | foxlit | qq, it works :( |
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| 16:55.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ~lol Shirik |
| 16:55.11 | purl | ACTION Laughs out Loud at Shirik |
| 16:57.12 | AnduinLothar | "The US House of Representatives on Wednesday approved a resolution introduced two days earlier that designates March 14, 2009 (3/14, get it?) as National Pi Day. It urges schools to take the opportunity to teach their students about Pi and "engage them about the study of mathematics." |
| 16:57.12 | p3lim | Anyone that can help me with my localization issue? |
| 16:57.21 | mikma | sure, get a proper editor :) |
| 16:57.36 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 16:57.38 | p3lim | using notepad++ |
| 16:57.51 | p3lim | it supports it, but my copy/paste function doesnt |
| 16:58.12 | Shirik | Topic: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.0.x ToC: 30000 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | BlizzCon! http://tinyurl.com/cg6rb4 | Happy Pi Day! |
| 16:58.14 | p3lim | isnt there something like this: http://www.wowwiki.com/Localizing_an_addon#Accents.2C_Special_Chars_and_Umlauts |
| 16:58.17 | AnduinLothar | that must be the fastest turnaround ever in the house |
| 16:58.32 | mikma | house md? |
| 16:58.51 | AnduinLothar | no the house of reps |
| 16:58.57 | foxlit | house md > house * |
| 16:59.04 | AnduinLothar | house md always gets things wrapped up in an hour |
| 16:59.35 | p3lim | if there is a wiki, please let me know |
| 16:59.41 | selckin | should be more episodes where he fails imo |
| 17:01.28 | Eggi | why should your clipboard not support these characters o0 |
| 17:02.16 | Shirik | uh |
| 17:02.22 | Shirik | why didn't anyone tell me I didn't actually set the topic |
| 17:02.32 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Shirik -> Topic: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.0.x ToC: 30000 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | BlizzCon! http://tinyurl.com/cg6rb4 | Happy Pi Day! |
| 17:02.45 | foxlit | because Pi day is a myth |
| 17:02.48 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Shirik -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.0.x ToC: 30000 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | BlizzCon! http://tinyurl.com/cg6rb4 | Happy Pi Day! |
| 17:02.51 | foxlit | 14.3? What the heck is that. |
| 17:03.02 | selckin | learn-to-date |
| 17:03.03 | Shirik | only noob countries do it like that |
| 17:03.24 | Shirik | (Though, to be safe, I generally write things like 14-Mar-2009 so there's no confusion) |
| 17:03.46 | Shirik | If you really wanted a good way to do it, it would be 2009-03-14 imo |
| 17:03.56 | foxlit | lua> 2009-03-14 |
| 17:03.56 | lua_bot | foxlit: 1992 |
| 17:03.59 | Shirik | directly translatable to a sortable integer, 20090314 |
| 17:04.00 | foxlit | Not Pi. |
| 17:04.28 | zenzelezz | your opinion is meaningless Shirik |
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| 17:06.53 | foxlit | !api IsAltDown |
| 17:06.54 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'IsAltDown'. |
| 17:07.02 | Shirik | !api IsAltModifierDown |
| 17:07.02 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'IsAltModifierDown'. |
| 17:07.05 | Shirik | !api IsAltModifierPressed |
| 17:07.06 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'IsAltModifierPressed'. |
| 17:07.08 | Shirik | omg |
| 17:07.10 | foxlit | Key |
| 17:07.11 | Shirik | I fail at memory :( |
| 17:07.12 | foxlit | not modifier |
| 17:07.16 | mikma | !api IsAltKeyDown |
| 17:07.17 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'IsAltKeyDown' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsAltKeyDown |
| 17:07.49 | mikma | wowbot fails |
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| 17:35.10 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/octopus_last_revenge.jpg |
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| 17:48.58 | mikma | http://media.fukung.net/images/6568/neworleans.jpg |
| 17:49.53 | foxlit | it lives! |
| 17:50.02 | foxlit | or maybe it does not |
| 17:51.20 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/magic |
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| 17:53.00 | mikma | foxlit: jesus christ that's cool |
| 17:53.17 | mikma | foxlit: live or ptr? |
| 17:53.37 | foxlit | And I've just realized it's erratic, since the first two don't check cooldowns. |
| 17:53.40 | mikma | foxlit: also you have a typo there but i'm sure you know it |
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| 17:54.00 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:54.09 | mikma | you write the latter in video |
| 17:54.38 | foxlit | Good point |
| 17:54.43 | jnwhiteh | how does this work? |
| 17:55.10 | foxlit | I believe the title speaks for itself :) |
| 17:55.30 | jnwhiteh | no really, are these all on PTR? |
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| 17:56.11 | foxlit | That'd be a quick 180 in terms of what's permissible in macros, wouldn't it? No, those conditions aren't on the PTR. |
| 17:56.27 | jnwhiteh | yes it would, hence my confusion |
| 17:56.46 | AnduinLothar | private server ftl |
| 17:57.05 | jnwhiteh | idd |
| 17:57.13 | mikma | foxlit: http://media.fukung.net/images/8616/39759e6c1ae84aa79d1cd496c7b1262a.jpg |
| 17:57.42 | foxlit | Meh, that'd have to be a private *client* rather than a private sever. |
| 17:59.00 | mikma | ban him because of the private stuff!!11 |
| 18:02.20 | mikma | http://media.fukung.net/images/1703/tn_uo.gun.jpg |
| 18:02.25 | mikma | yes, crazy people |
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| 18:09.10 | AnduinLothar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k_oKK4Teco |
| 18:17.27 | AnduinLothar | woah... Spiritual Attunement is gonna only be a prot tallent? |
| 18:17.38 | AnduinLothar | that's a big change... |
| 18:17.55 | Tem | I always thought it was until a pally in our guild told me otherwise this week |
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| 18:18.41 | AnduinLothar | well it wont mean too much for holy except heal tanking which hasn't happened much in LK |
| 18:18.55 | AnduinLothar | but it's a big nerf for ret unless they're changing something else |
| 18:19.46 | NightHawkTheSane | well, its a nerf for holy on any fight with raid damage |
| 18:19.59 | AnduinLothar | only if they didn't heal themselves |
| 18:20.17 | NightHawkTheSane | that's not an uncommon thing. :P |
| 18:20.34 | AnduinLothar | right, it became something you didn't do |
| 18:20.43 | AnduinLothar | you just stay hurt and let someoen else heal you |
| 18:20.53 | AnduinLothar | but that's kinda silly and not rly neccissary |
| 18:21.05 | AnduinLothar | it's not a huge nerf to you |
| 18:21.26 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, i agree. but it remains that it is a nerf. it's potential mana regen that you no longer have. |
| 18:21.44 | AnduinLothar | yeah, but no where near the impact as there is on ret |
| 18:21.56 | AnduinLothar | it sounds like it would make seal of blood useless |
| 18:21.59 | foxlit | On the bright side, that's more potential AoE you don't have to take because you're low on mana :) |
| 18:22.07 | AnduinLothar | and make eeveryone go back to seal of command |
| 18:22.36 | AnduinLothar | but if that's the case then what's the point of Seal of Blood |
| 18:22.38 | NightHawkTheSane | makes me wonder what they'll change the SoB glyph to, though |
| 18:23.08 | AnduinLothar | i mean i spose you could use SoB as prot with that glyph to get some hax regen |
| 18:23.28 | AnduinLothar | but you'd only use it in situations where you weren't already takign a lot of dmg |
| 18:23.51 | AnduinLothar | and you dont rly need it cause of the new tallent |
| 18:24.00 | NightHawkTheSane | and prot still has sanctuary |
| 18:24.09 | AnduinLothar | they changed it to not give mana, neh? |
| 18:24.29 | NightHawkTheSane | did they? i thought they just changed it to not give rage/rp, but i could be wrong |
| 18:24.44 | AnduinLothar | and added a talent to refresh the mana regen spell onhit |
| 18:24.50 | NightHawkTheSane | "Blessing of Sanctuary: Now only grants mana on dodge/parry/block. In addition, will only grant mana if that is the active power type of the friendly target (Bears and Cats wonât gain mana)." |
| 18:25.00 | AnduinLothar | ahh |
| 18:25.02 | AnduinLothar | ok |
| 18:25.12 | NightHawkTheSane | so prot pallies will have plea and sanctuary |
| 18:25.13 | AnduinLothar | so tanks are never gonna run out of mana anyway |
| 18:25.21 | AnduinLothar | even when not being healed |
| 18:25.27 | AnduinLothar | which is great for OTs |
| 18:25.50 | NightHawkTheSane | well, in magic heavy situations with only moderate damage they still might |
| 18:26.01 | NightHawkTheSane | but thats such an absurd edge case |
| 18:26.33 | AnduinLothar | right, and they've fixed the problem that pallies can only be main tanks because unless they take dmg they run outa mana in 20s |
| 18:26.47 | AnduinLothar | but what're they doing about ret... |
| 18:27.07 | NightHawkTheSane | i assume a JotW tweak |
| 18:30.21 | AnduinLothar | good thing i have good prot gear... |
| 18:30.51 | NightHawkTheSane | its probably also a good thing you're not overreacting and predicting doom and gloom unnecessarily. |
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| 18:31.11 | AnduinLothar | i'd probably just cry and QQ some more |
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| 18:32.11 | AnduinLothar | i dunno i'll log on ptr right now and do some tests |
| 18:32.25 | AnduinLothar | but afaik the SA change isn't on ptr yet |
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| 18:46.45 | AnduinLothar | Anyone got a warlock? |
| 18:46.48 | AnduinLothar | alliance |
| 18:47.15 | alestane | ALways. |
| 18:47.26 | AnduinLothar | wanna try some 2s on ptr? |
| 18:47.53 | zenzelezz | warlock alliances are scary; so many gloomy people together |
| 18:48.15 | alestane | Maybe in a little bit, finishing lunch. I'm pretty wretched at arena though, only tried it once or twice. |
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| 18:50.47 | AnduinLothar | oh man that was awesome |
| 18:51.00 | Duman | hmm |
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| 18:59.31 | Fisker- | palas still have spiritual attunement :o |
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| 19:05.33 | Duman | prot talent |
| 19:05.56 | Duman | latest notes: |
| 19:05.57 | Duman | Spiritual Attunement: Removed from trainers. It is now available deep in the Protection tree for 2 ranks at 5/10%. |
| 19:06.30 | selckin | good luck retribution |
| 19:07.08 | mikma | neeeeeeerf |
| 19:07.18 | Duman | well, the problem was that since SA was baseline, they coulnd't tweak mana gains for each tree individually |
| 19:07.43 | mikma | hows the mana regen in 3.1.0 anyway? |
| 19:07.45 | Duman | (both SA and divine plea, actually) |
| 19:07.53 | mikma | haven't heard how it works now |
| 19:08.12 | Duman | it's all sorts of different... but I haven't had much time to play around to be honest |
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| 19:14.53 | Tem | SA was imba regen for holy |
| 19:15.09 | Tem | put beacon on yourself, intentionally take damage, land big heals on tanks |
| 19:16.22 | Thunder_Child | mikma, from what i can figure out it's, less ooc mana regen more in comabt regen |
| 19:17.24 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> why does the wowwiki main page have a huge background add for warhammer online? |
| 19:18.13 | selckin | smart ad people? |
| 19:19.11 | zenzelezz | most likely the wikia people decided that was the way to go |
| 19:20.23 | foxlit | Step 1. Log in. Step 2. Block everything that remains :) |
| 19:21.03 | foxlit | GetItemCount was patched? |
| 19:21.31 | foxlit | A long time ago. Nevermind, I was thinking of GetSpellCount |
| 19:21.51 | Thunder_Child | it's ok foxlit, we know you try so hard |
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| 19:22.48 | foxlit | qq! |
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| 19:29.34 | Xeross | Hey folks i'm trying to create a very simple addon with only a onLoad event without xml. how would i make it execute code on load |
| 19:33.31 | foxlit | There is no such thing as an OnLoad event outside of XML. |
| 19:33.52 | foxlit | Just run whatever it is you wanted to run directly in a .lua file. |
| 19:34.02 | alestane | Xeross: Just what are you trying to do? |
| 19:34.18 | Xeross | alestane: Just run 3 commands when the ui gets loaded |
| 19:34.39 | alestane | Then as foxlit said, just put those three commands in a Lua file. |
| 19:35.14 | Xeross | ah ok, i thought i needed some special onload code or something |
| 19:35.17 | alestane | Depending on the three commands. If they depend on data that's not available at first load, you may need an invisible frame to catch the appropriate event. |
| 19:35.51 | mikma | local f = CreateFrame("Frame"); f:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_LOGIN"); f:SetScript("OnEvent", function() mycodegoeshere() end) |
| 19:35.58 | mikma | there you go, .lua OnLoad xD |
| 19:36.14 | Xeross | just pasing it is easier |
| 19:36.23 | Xeross | it accesses the CastingBarFrame and hides it |
| 19:36.31 | foxlit | That's an OnLoad in the same was as Thaddius is a zombie :) |
| 19:36.34 | Xeross | and unregisters any events linked to it |
| 19:36.36 | foxlit | s/was/way |
| 19:39.33 | Thunder_Child | the sad part foxlit, i read that as way...so i was trying to figure out what you were correcting >.< |
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| 19:41.50 | Thunder_Child | http://i.gizmodo.com/5170016/314-the-nerdiest-date-of-the-year |
| 19:47.46 | mikma | http://media.fukung.net/images/2386/lolol.jpg |
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| 19:58.16 | Thunder_Child | who in the hell would name theit guild <Wizards of the Coast> |
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| 19:58.40 | Thunder_Child | besides the fact thats the name is trademarked and against the ToU |
| 19:58.59 | selckin | #care |
| 20:01.12 | foxlit | perhaps there's a coast |
| 20:01.20 | foxlit | And they're wizards from that coast. |
| 20:03.40 | Thunder_Child | ~lart |
| 20:03.44 | Thunder_Child | ~lart FoxFurry |
| 20:03.44 | purl | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at FoxFurry |
| 20:03.50 | Thunder_Child | ~lart foxlit |
| 20:03.50 | purl | chops foxlit in half with a free AOL CD |
| 20:03.54 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 20:04.19 | Thunder_Child | you used to be the only fo in here foxlit |
| 20:06.09 | CoooLLer | Is there any way to track an occurrence of mark on minimap when you walk near mining or herbal point and tracking is on? |
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| 20:08.40 | foxlit | drat! |
| 20:08.51 | foxlit | I have to reconsider franchising fo prefixes out |
| 20:09.16 | foxlit | <Wizards of the Westfall Coast>, then? |
| 20:09.37 | Thunder_Child | amazing foxlit |
| 20:09.41 | Thunder_Child | amazing fail |
| 20:10.15 | Xeross | hey, i've got http://pastebin.com/m6b99b2b2 but the slash command ain't working |
| 20:11.56 | Xeross | What am i doing wrong ? |
| 20:14.55 | tlund | is there a howto or document about how to trace taint? I have my taint.log, but it doesnt show what variable is tainted :/ |
| 20:15.20 | Xeross | Yay i got it working with the onload code someone here told me thanks someone |
| 20:17.35 | foxlit | tlund: not that I'm aware of. Paste a relevant tainlog row? :) |
| 20:17.56 | tlund | 3/14 16:39:53.151 An action was blocked in combat because of taint from !!tlund - PetActionBarFrame:SetPoint() |
| 20:17.59 | tlund | 3/14 16:39:53.151 Interface\FrameXML\PetActionBarFrame.lua:184 ShowPetActionBar() |
| 20:18.02 | tlund | 3/14 16:39:53.151 Interface\FrameXML\PetActionBarFrame.lua:40 PetActionBar_OnEvent() |
| 20:18.05 | tlund | 3/14 16:39:53.151 PetActionBarFrame:OnEvent() |
| 20:18.18 | Xeross | Guys what's the event for when the addon gets loaded ADDON_LOADED ? |
| 20:19.14 | foxlit | You could try /console taintLog 2 |
| 20:19.54 | foxlit | Which would tell you more. Unfortunately, it's very verbose, so you should reproduce the error quickly then turn it back off |
| 20:20.42 | tlund | aha! thanks |
| 20:20.58 | foxlit | 1 tells you which protected action was blocked, and gives you a pointer to where it was called -- the execution path was tainted at or before this point. |
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| 20:29.59 | alestane | Okay, WHY does C++ not allow me to pass constructor arguments in an array allocation? |
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| 20:39.49 | Xeross | how can i get the parentframe through lua |
| 20:40.40 | haste | frame:GetParent() |
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| 20:48.55 | Xeross | thx |
| 20:53.21 | Thunder_Child | heh, took me a second to understand this one "[01:50] [3] <80:Lichkingarch>: LFG Need more info" |
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| 20:59.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: >.> huh? |
| 21:00.32 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, what? |
| 21:00.48 | NightHawkTheSane | i still don't understand that quote. |
| 21:00.58 | Thunder_Child | the quest name is |
| 21:01.02 | Thunder_Child | Need more info' |
| 21:01.11 | Seerah | http://www.yahoo.com/s/1043580 |
| 21:03.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: i see. |
| 21:03.29 | Thunder_Child | Seerah, heh i already have something like that set up |
| 21:03.38 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, ya...i kept thinking...wtf |
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| 21:23.55 | Thunder_Child | if a spell does 1600dmg min and i have 1000 + spell dmg how can the spell do 2000 dmg on a hit? |
| 21:27.41 | selckin | its almost never a 100% modifier on spelldamage |
| 21:29.39 | Thunder_Child | oh right....cast time |
| 21:33.57 | NeoTron | GC is doesn't afraid! http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/15660810234-gc-is-a-pretty-cool-guy.html |
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| 21:41.44 | smcn | lol i had to look that up, it's a 4chan meme or something |
| 21:42.05 | smcn | the original is like "halo is a pretty cool guy, he shoots aliens and doesn't afraid of anything" |
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| 22:34.08 | Tuller | so question: |
| 22:34.17 | Tuller | are gamepad controls enabled in the latest ptr? |
| 22:38.18 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF4HvstdPWY |
| 22:38.19 | NightHawkTheSane | PI! |
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| 22:43.43 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.10 | Arrowmaster | were you in combat? |
| 22:45.20 | |Jelly| | Yeah. |
| 22:45.27 | Arrowmaster | thats probably why |
| 22:45.39 | |Jelly| | I figured you would still afk offline. I left myself autoattacking a ghost to get skill up, thinking I would afk offline. :-\ |
| 22:45.43 | |Jelly| | Hope I don't get banned. |
| 22:45.51 | Thunder_Child | Tuller, thats what i hear |
| 22:45.52 | Tekkub | fail |
| 22:46.15 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, that means you can stay on with the dummys |
| 22:46.44 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i once stayed online all night autoattacking a mob in slabs for skillups. |
| 22:46.52 | NightHawkTheSane | slab* |
| 22:48.30 | Thunder_Child | i cant be a glass canon anymore....how fail |
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| 22:52.00 | |Jelly| | So all my gear is broken now. lol |
| 22:52.41 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.32 | Tuller | sadly, I cannot find the config mode for the controller if wow is actually detecting it :P |
| 22:54.06 | Dewin | They changed dummies to still allow you to disconnect |
| 22:54.11 | foxlit | hurray, Undying. |
| 22:54.46 | Dewin | because when servers were having massive queue issues, people would just strip naked and attack a dummy all night to not get disconnected |
| 22:56.47 | |Jelly| | Well, like I'll tell any GM if it ever comes up: I had every intention of letting it AFK me offline and I really didn't intend on staying online. |
| 23:07.17 | Tuller | hrm yes, no detection of the 360 controller |
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| 23:25.04 | Shirik | ¿ |
| 23:25.23 | Tuller | ¡! |
| 23:26.07 | Shirik | Ƹ |
| 23:26.40 | nevcairiel | shirik learned the magic of utf-8, something new every day =) |
| 23:26.40 | Tuller | :Ã |
| 23:27.02 | Shirik | oh I might have to keep that one Tuller |
| 23:27.09 | Shirik | nevcairiel: :( |
| 23:27.13 | Tuller | I prefer it to :P |
| 23:28.09 | Shirik | For the record, that upside down question mark can be sent in 8-bit ASCII, doesn't need UTF-8! |
| 23:28.24 | Tuller | alt + 0191? |
| 23:28.28 | Tuller | ¿ |
| 23:28.30 | Tuller | yes |
| 23:30.27 | nevcairiel | so can ä and yet my client decides to encode it in some weird windows charset |
| 23:30.38 | Shirik | nice |
| 23:31.26 | nevcairiel | win1252 i believe, evil MS incarnation of a charset |
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| 23:36.44 | Tuller | hrm |
| 23:36.53 | Tuller | fallout, at first glance plays better with the 360 controller |
| 23:36.57 | Tuller | not sure how I feel about that |
| 23:49.19 | Thunder_Child | is there a level cap on the 10 day trial? |
| 23:49.58 | kd3 | yes. you can get to 1 XP short of hitting the next level for bc/wrath trials, and lv20 for the wow trial |
| 23:50.17 | Thunder_Child | ok, thanks kd3 |
| 23:50.54 | Kaso| | on my wrath trial i got my xp then filled a questlog full of completed quests ready to hand in |
| 23:51.13 | Kaso| | that way when i subscribed i could be half way to 72 in one go ;p |
| 23:53.54 | WobWork | Kaso|: meh, for new content, I'd rather enjoy it |
| 23:54.10 | foxlit | So, subjective question: what is your favorite "loop forever" syntax in Lua? |
| 23:54.20 | WobWork | while true? |
| 23:54.25 | Kaso| | Well its the same amount of content to be enjoyed just means you can enjoy more of it in the trial period |
| 23:54.37 | Kaso| | without "wasting" quests on 0xp |
| 23:54.38 | foxlit | while true is an option |
| 23:55.06 | Kaso| | not lua; but i was amazed the first time i saw for(;;) {} in C, i didnt even know that was possible |
| 23:55.18 | Kaso| | (because i use while true/ while (1) {} so much) |
| 23:55.31 | Shirik | I tend to use for(;;) {...} because it does not throw a warning |
| 23:55.43 | Shirik | while (1) { ... } throws warning "conditional expression is constant" for me |
| 23:56.35 | Shirik | however, in Lua, I tend to do while true do end |
| 23:56.45 | Shirik | what else would you use? |
| 23:57.28 | zenzelezz | "do while true" or do "while true"? |
| 23:57.44 | Shirik | do "while true" |
| 23:57.51 | Shirik | there is no do...while in Lua ) |
| 23:57.52 | Shirik | :) |
| 23:57.55 | Shirik | It's repeat..until |
| 23:57.55 | Kaso| | repeat block until? |
| 23:58.21 | foxlit | You could also probably use for if you were so inclined |
| 23:58.55 | Shirik | Yeah but it would be slower AND harder to read |
| 23:59.00 | Shirik | so I don't see a good justification for it |
| 23:59.11 | Shirik | If you wanted, you could use a tailcall |
| 23:59.26 | Shirik | function infiniteLoop() <block> return infiniteLoop() end |
| 23:59.57 | foxlit | which would land you in an upvalue mess |
