| 00:00.00 | DWSR | Symmetrical ftw. |
| 00:00.08 | NeoTron | the 50/20 is tempting but too expensive |
| 00:00.31 | DWSR | Symmetrical = faster torrent seeding = better ratio on private trackers = moar porn! |
| 00:00.35 | NeoTron | want to get fios TV too but it's a bit annoying with Tivo series 2' |
| 00:00.45 | NeoTron | trust me, I loev symmetric |
| 00:00.56 | DWSR | Me too, too bad it's not available in my country period. |
| 00:00.58 | NeoTron | my first DSL was 768k symmetrical |
| 00:01.04 | NeoTron | now I have 16/2 |
| 00:01.08 | NeoTron | that's just not right |
| 00:01.08 | DWSR | I heard somewhere in Europe has gigabit res lines? |
| 00:01.10 | Dagmar | Ouch yeah the lawyersharks still haven't had their ten pounds of flesh from TiVo for IPTV I suspect |
| 00:01.11 | Codayus | My DSL is only 15Mb down, 7Mb up or so. I find that's fast enough for torrenting. :-) |
| 00:01.16 | Codayus | Even if it's not symettrical. |
| 00:01.23 | Dagmar | DWSR: You may be thinking of Korea |
| 00:01.31 | DWSR | Dagmar: I thought somewhere in Europe too though |
| 00:01.31 | NeoTron | Codayus: you must live right next to the CO |
| 00:01.46 | NeoTron | unless DSL tech has improved long-range performance a lot |
| 00:02.00 | Dagmar | TThey might have it in parts of Europe, but Korea has left us all in the dust. |
| 00:02.04 | Dagmar | Something to do with population density I think |
| 00:02.17 | Codayus | NeoTron: *shrug* Inner city. You can't live TOO far from the CO. And they just got done rolling out ADSL2+ upgrades or something, so meh. |
| 00:02.34 | Dagmar | Yeah when I was in San Fran I coulnd't believe the connectivity options |
| 00:02.46 | Codayus | I still get a pind of 300ms to WoW though. *sigh* |
| 00:02.54 | Codayus | I can't type today, it seems. |
| 00:02.55 | DWSR | rofl |
| 00:03.03 | DWSR | My ping's always <250ms |
| 00:03.06 | Dagmar | That 768K line cost us about $140/month. Bellsouth in Nashville would have r**pd you to the tune of $300 for that |
| 00:03.08 | DWSR | Except when it's 11k in Naxx. |
| 00:03.15 | Codayus | DWSR: What hemisphere? |
| 00:03.23 | DWSR | Codayus: Northern? |
| 00:03.36 | Codayus | DWSR: Yeah. Out this way, 300ms is great. :-) |
| 00:03.43 | DWSR | Where you live, Midway? |
| 00:03.47 | Codayus | New Zealand. |
| 00:03.53 | Dagmar | ouch |
| 00:04.02 | DWSR | Codayus: You playing on an Oceanic server though? |
| 00:04.05 | DWSR | 300ms still isn't too bad. |
| 00:04.07 | Codayus | DWSR: No such thing. |
| 00:04.08 | Dagmar | Yeah you're not seeing sub-300ms latency unless someone drills a hole through the core of the Earth |
| 00:04.13 | DWSR | Codayus: Uh....yeah? |
| 00:04.16 | Codayus | Oceanic servers are in the LA data center. |
| 00:04.19 | Dagmar | Maybe start digging |
| 00:04.23 | DWSR | Codayus: Oh, fail. |
| 00:04.41 | Codayus | Actually, I think a couple are even in the Seattle data center, for extra fail. |
| 00:04.50 | Dagmar | Hey they're about as close to the edge of the US network as they can be there in LA |
| 00:04.51 | DWSR | Anyone know what the fuck these performance issues in instances are all about |
| 00:05.12 | DWSR | Just fail combined with server hardware suck or something else? |
| 00:05.12 | Dagmar | VM resource limiting |
| 00:05.21 | Codayus | DWSR: Warhammer actually put in Oceanic servers in Australia. Bastards, they just do it to taunt Oceanic WoW players. >< |
| 00:05.22 | Tekkub | Viagra |
| 00:05.23 | DWSR | ah, that'd do it. |
| 00:05.51 | DWSR | Blizzard are like billionares monthly. |
| 00:05.57 | Dagmar | Unless you were having a Mal'Ganis style problem |
| 00:05.57 | DWSR | Why the fuck can't the buy better servers? |
| 00:06.04 | DWSR | Dagmar: ? |
| 00:06.10 | DWSR | I call 11k ping a big problem. |
| 00:06.22 | DWSR | I dunno if that's 'Mal\'Ganis Style', but yeah. |
| 00:06.23 | Dagmar | Mal'Ganis was boned for a couple of months because something Blizzard couldn't accurately figure out was screwing it up |
| 00:06.30 | DWSR | oh, no. |
| 00:06.38 | DWSR | lol, escaping quotes in IRC >.< |
| 00:06.40 | Dagmar | I got to hear coworkers complain endlessly |
| 00:07.01 | Dagmar | <-- "Stop playing on a PvP server" |
| 00:07.11 | DWSR | I play on one. |
| 00:07.17 | DWSR | It's what makes the game still interesting IMO. |
| 00:07.24 | DWSR | The fact that you might have to watch out for someone trying to gank you. |
| 00:07.46 | DWSR | Although, I have to say, level an Aff lock to 80 and sit in Shadow Vault for a day. |
| 00:07.50 | Dagmar | Gimme permadeath and then I'll do a PvP server |
| 00:08.05 | DWSR | Whenever an enemy player lands in SV, just DoT and run to the guards. |
| 00:08.13 | DWSR | Endless fun. |
| 00:08.15 | NightHawkTheSane | give me the ability to opt out of douchgebags, and then ill do a pvp server.. oh, wait.. |
| 00:08.26 | Dagmar | Yeah that's what I figure permadeath might bring |
| 00:08.26 | DWSR | NightHawkTheSane: It's more fun to be the douchebag, trust me. :P |
| 00:08.38 | Dagmar | Make enough enemies and folks WILL jack you back to level 1 |
| 00:08.46 | NightHawkTheSane | except i have a modicum of integrity |
| 00:09.01 | DWSR | Not allowed when you play World of Warcraft. |
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| 00:09.05 | DWSR | They haven't banned you yet? |
| 00:09.08 | Dagmar | The PvP aspect without permadeath seems to add far more amusement for griefers than it does anyone else |
| 00:09.14 | NightHawkTheSane | no, but if i had my say, you'd be perma-banned |
| 00:09.19 | DWSR | Dagmar: Pretty much. |
| 00:09.30 | DWSR | But at least it's something else to do. |
| 00:09.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: modern world-pvp is nothing more than 10 year olds griefing other people |
| 00:09.50 | DWSR | I'd like to see an XP gain/loss from PvP. |
| 00:09.54 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: That's why I like Wintergrasp |
| 00:10.06 | DWSR | Stops twinks and stops griefers, problem solved. |
| 00:10.12 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, WG is pretty cool |
| 00:10.14 | DWSR | Also opens up people who want to level through PvP. |
| 00:10.16 | kd3 | son of a... just as I complete enough quests to hit champion, the world server crashes |
| 00:10.20 | DWSR | rofl |
| 00:10.28 | Dagmar | kd3: OOOooooo |
| 00:10.34 | Dagmar | My sincerest condolences |
| 00:10.37 | DWSR | Dagmar: On my server (US-Nazjatar), WG is always owned by the Horde. |
| 00:10.49 | DWSR | The Alliance only owns it between like 3-7am server time. |
| 00:11.07 | Dagmar | DWSR: Ya'll should convince everyone else to zone out, except 3-4 warlocks |
| 00:11.22 | DWSR | Why 3-4 warlocks? |
| 00:11.25 | Dagmar | There should be enough tenacity stacking there to let them be like unto angry gods |
| 00:11.25 | DWSR | Summons? |
| 00:11.30 | DWSR | rofl |
| 00:11.35 | DWSR | Yeah, I play a warlock too. |
| 00:11.37 | Dagmar | Seed of Corruption for one thing |
| 00:11.40 | DWSR | OMG YES. |
| 00:12.00 | DWSR | lol |
| 00:12.12 | DWSR | In our server, there have been more than a few matches with Alliance having 20x Tenacity the whole fight. |
| 00:12.34 | Dagmar | Yeah I've watched a lock one-hit the "big tank" and everyone in it more than once |
| 00:12.48 | DWSR | I'm an aff lock though |
| 00:12.49 | DWSR | No burst. |
| 00:12.50 | Dagmar | Seems pretty damn effective |
| 00:13.14 | DWSR | I'm the spec that gets to just hang around until boss time. |
| 00:13.20 | DWSR | My favourite spec ever, I hate that they're nerfing it. |
| 00:13.28 | Dagmar | Well, lots of tenacity makes you into a raid boss, so it's kinda like that |
| 00:13.36 | DWSR | lol |
| 00:13.49 | DWSR | Even with 20x tenacity, the alliance still lost. |
| 00:13.59 | DWSR | So meh, I'm not sure that tenacity is even really that effective. |
| 00:14.04 | Dagmar | Ya'll didnt' even form a raid group or something |
| 00:14.22 | Dagmar | I kid you not I have seen Horde win 6:14 |
| 00:14.23 | DWSR | Dagmar: I play Horde dude. |
| 00:14.34 | DWSR | Horde 4 life. |
| 00:14.39 | Dagmar | 6:24 they just pretty much steamrolled us |
| 00:15.01 | Dagmar | Not much you can do against amped-up creeping death when one hit of it drops you by 12k health |
| 00:15.12 | DWSR | On our server, we normally get >150 people on the Horde side, and like 40 for Alliance. |
| 00:15.31 | DWSR | I can't ever get that fucking achievement on my lock because we NEVER have Tenacity. |
| 00:15.38 | Dagmar | I think with those unmbers it means you're starving their collective cooldowns. ;) |
| 00:15.56 | DWSR | heh prolly. |
| 00:16.04 | Dagmar | Cna't you just line up along the walls and surround the place with a barrier of raw AoE with 150 people? |
| 00:16.11 | DWSR | pft. |
| 00:16.13 | DWSR | Why do that? |
| 00:16.15 | DWSR | ZERG DA WEST |
| 00:16.17 | Dagmar | because it wins |
| 00:16.17 | DWSR | etc. |
| 00:16.28 | DWSR | nah. |
| 00:16.35 | DWSR | we like to farm our HKs for the dailies. |
| 00:16.44 | DWSR | Take our time destroying the walls so people can farm that daily. |
| 00:16.45 | DWSR | etc. |
| 00:16.46 | DWSR | anyway, g2g. |
| 00:16.48 | DWSR | PEACE |
| 00:16.54 | bleeter | is there a way to change alchy specialisation without having to totally retrain? |
| 00:17.03 | Dagmar | The horde on our server finally figured out to drag Wrynn into a side room and have all the AoEers pound the little antechamber/hall |
| 00:17.15 | Dagmar | Fat lot of good it did me to figure out I could Disengage backwards into there |
| 00:17.27 | Dagmar | bleeter: Nope |
| 00:17.39 | Dagmar | Not one that I've heard of anyway |
| 00:17.55 | bleeter | You may unlearn a specialization in alchemy, and then select a new specialization. This is a repeatable choice, but costs 150 gold each time you unlearn your specialization. To unlearn a specialization, see the NPC who gave you the specialization. |
| 00:17.59 | bleeter | ^^ wowwiki |
| 00:18.01 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: er, yes? |
| 00:18.05 | bleeter | just found that |
| 00:18.09 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, like that |
| 00:18.47 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: thanks mate :) |
| 00:19.05 | Dagmar | Whoa cool |
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| 00:36.21 | Lunessa | I can has cheeseburger? /me is hungry |
| 00:36.45 | Dagmar | I'm still deciding if I want to keep Pitch or get one of the new cats to name BasementCat |
| 00:36.57 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, same |
| 00:37.37 | Lunessa | I only have 20 minutes before my shift ends and I can go eat, so ... that's a plus. |
| 00:38.42 | Thunder_Child | i can eat now...except for the fact i am in uk |
| 00:39.16 | Dagmar | If I could see just one Hordie saying "ONOES! CEILING CAT, SAVE MEH!" it would make my week |
| 00:39.20 | Lunessa | United Kingdom, or Utgarde Keep? I can never tell, they're so similar. |
| 00:39.24 | Thunder_Child | keep |
| 00:39.37 | Thunder_Child | i would be able to eat in the kingdom |
| 00:39.47 | Lunessa | Then I guess you don't need to worry about someone feeding you spotted dick. |
| 00:39.54 | Thunder_Child | well.... |
| 00:41.35 | |Jelly| | Any idea what would cause my combat log to just ... stop logging anything? Disabled all addons and still doing it. |
| 00:41.56 | Thunder_Child | isnt it turned off by default? |
| 00:42.04 | Dagmar | Right click on that tab and hit up the list of what channels go to it |
| 00:42.17 | |Jelly| | All default |
| 00:42.28 | Dagmar | I had that break on me earlier in the week, and although an addon had caused it I noticed you can for some weird reason turn off combat messages in the combat window |
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| 00:49.23 | NightHawkTheSane | |Jelly|: i've noticed in the past that CLEU can.. stop firing.. |
| 00:49.43 | NightHawkTheSane | exiting wow usually fixed it |
| 00:52.08 | |Jelly| | Nuked my config.wtf. |
| 00:52.36 | |Jelly| | I guess I should have tried to close WoW first. I just assumed an addon messed something up. :( |
| 00:53.46 | Tekkub | Jelly, does MSBT and such that track the unfiltered events also not work? |
| 00:53.55 | Tekkub | I had that happen, was told that a full relog would fix |
| 00:53.56 | |Jelly| | Parrot wasn't working, no. |
| 00:54.10 | |Jelly| | Rock on. Now I know how to fix it if it happens again. lol |
| 00:54.39 | Tekkub | yea it was weird, MSBT and picoDPS, which both use the combat unfiltered events, were getting nothing |
| 00:54.57 | End | the normal combat log gets nothing too |
| 00:55.06 | End | people used to not believe me when I said that error exists |
| 00:57.18 | Tekkub | we still don't |
| 00:57.31 | End | not my eyes though |
| 00:57.35 | End | I'm rolling someone else's eyes |
| 00:58.19 | Lunessa | Did they come up as single pips? snake eyes? |
| 00:58.53 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out of here for the day. Dinner time, then WoW time. Woo! |
| 00:59.43 | |Jelly| | Take care. Thanks for the help. |
| 01:00.28 | Tekkub | It amazes me how wowins can take "Retribution dps, especially in PvE, is lower in 3.1 than we want." and turn it into http://www.wowinsider.com/2009/03/04/retribution-dps-too-low/ |
| 01:00.43 | Tekkub | the masters of useless fluff! |
| 01:01.30 | Arrowmaster | somebody with the ptr, tell me if HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Blizzard Entertainment\World of Warcraft\PTR\InstallPath is a valid registry key? |
| 01:01.49 | Tekkub | do I get a cookie? |
| 01:02.00 | End | Yes |
| 01:02.01 | End | it's valid |
| 01:02.16 | Arrowmaster | my friend is trying to make xfire detect the ptr |
| 01:02.31 | Arrowmaster | now hes just going to make it think its the wrath beta |
| 01:03.14 | Tekkub | yes it's valid, and yes it has the correct value (my PTR is installed on my extra drive) |
| 01:03.17 | Tekkub | there's also GamePath that points at launcher.exe |
| 01:06.55 | Dagmar | You might want to suggest he just not bother with making it "detect" something like that |
| 01:07.50 | Tekkub | never quite got the point of xfire myself |
| 01:08.06 | Dagmar | For MP shooters it's not bad |
| 01:08.16 | Dagmar | For everything else it's mainly public epeen stroking |
| 01:08.22 | Tekkub | I never got shooters either :) |
| 01:08.22 | Thunder_Child | i never got the point of xfire either |
| 01:08.23 | Hirsute | Tekkub: Just overlays a messenger over the game you're playing, no alt-tabbing out to chat with your buddies. |
| 01:08.43 | Thunder_Child | all my games are windowed |
| 01:08.43 | Dagmar | Like, imagine forums that video gamers are using where you don't even have to pay fifteen bucks a month to be a jackass to other people |
| 01:08.45 | Thunder_Child | always |
| 01:08.52 | Tekkub | Hirsute, yea see, I have multimon and have for years, which is probably why that makes no sense to me |
| 01:09.01 | Hirsute | *nod* |
| 01:09.43 | Dagmar | *sigh* I suggest my gf try to get the annoying telemarketer to commit suicide and *I'm* the bad person. |
| 01:10.12 | Hirsute | I don't play Fullscreen anyway, but it made a lot more sense to me when my sister-in-law came over and the first thing she did was go Full-screen. I went, "Now, it'd be a pain to do anything else while you're WoWing" and suddenly overlays made sense. |
| 01:11.03 | Dagmar | Cuz you know, something important could come up while you're raiding |
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| 01:13.52 | Thunder_Child | what happens when a party memeber is not paying attention |
| 01:13.53 | Thunder_Child | [05:12] [Y] <80:Drakeinor>: CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK |
| 01:14.23 | Dagmar | wheeee |
| 01:15.36 | Thunder_Child | the funny thing was, was that i was not in the group but was watching the whole thing |
| 01:15.44 | Thunder_Child | (way to many was in that sentince) |
| 01:22.09 | Jamash | I have come to a conclusion, which is that spellbook IDs suck |
| 01:26.17 | Thunder_Child | so do vacumes |
| 01:26.23 | Jamash | true |
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| 01:27.10 | Jamash | I pretty much stole most of the code for my addon from the blizzard spellbook frame, and I'm thinking it was not a good idea |
| 01:27.33 | Jamash | because I have to adjust the index of every button every time a new spell is learned or forgotten |
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| 01:28.29 | Adys | is something like this legal syntax |
| 01:28.35 | Adys | foo(not bar, baz) |
| 01:28.49 | Jamash | sure |
| 01:28.54 | Adys | ok thanks |
| 01:31.50 | Jamash | what I think I'm going to do is start using absolute spell IDs instead of relative spellbook IDs |
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| 01:46.37 | kd3 | gaah, cold |
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| 01:52.52 | Tuller | lalalalala |
| 01:53.39 | Thunder_Child | ~bored |
| 01:53.40 | purl | La ... lalalala ... beer! |
| 01:59.31 | NightHawkTheSane | la la la la revolution (the future never happened!) |
| 02:06.08 | Arrowmaster | time to try reinstalling nero9 and hope it doesnt fuckup my dvd playback this time |
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| 02:26.46 | Thunder_Child | "dont ask me, i dont pretend to know about other classes....i can barely pretend to know about mine!" |
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| 02:56.15 | JamesWC | Y CAPS LOCK IS NOT ON BUT THE SHIFT IS LIKE PERMANENTLY ON>>I CANT EVEN TYPE PERIODS>>WHAT DID I DO? NOT A JOKE!! |
| 02:57.49 | Thunder_Child | you can try restarting your computer as well as unpluing the keyboard |
| 02:58.07 | Thunder_Child | unpluging* |
| 02:58.20 | JamesWC | LEMME UNPLUG IT |
| 02:58.45 | JamesWC | hello?? |
| 02:58.50 | JamesWC | You are a genius!!! |
| 02:59.03 | Thunder_Child | heh, hardly |
| 02:59.15 | Thunder_Child | little tricks from working tech supprt |
| 02:59.30 | JamesWC | Well considering some people in other rooms told me to do alt+f4, you are a genius |
| 02:59.32 | Torhal | Thunder_Child: I call it a pre-fetal-position exercise. |
| 02:59.58 | Thunder_Child | JamesWC, they were prolly just being assholes....which you might ahve gotten around here as well |
| 03:00.00 | Torhal | JamesWC: They may have been geniuses, as well. Mainly assholes, but I digress. |
| 03:00.15 | Thunder_Child | Torhal, what tech support? |
| 03:00.19 | NightHawkTheSane | does reflective damage (damage shields, thorns, ret aura) trigger twilight torment? |
| 03:00.32 | Torhal | Thunder_Child: Yup. I always wanted to curl up curbside after work. |
| 03:00.46 | Thunder_Child | there is a reason i got out of that line of work.... |
| 03:00.50 | Torhal | :D |
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| 03:00.59 | Thunder_Child | sadly it seems to have lead to no work at all |
| 03:01.10 | ZorbaBeta | james, next time just tap both the shift keys |
| 03:01.15 | Torhal | Aye. Working at a grocery store is far from awesome. |
| 03:01.15 | ZorbaBeta | and ctrl/alt just for fun |
| 03:01.25 | JamesWC | oh wow...what causes it? |
| 03:01.34 | ZorbaBeta | sometimes the keydown message gets through, but the keyup message gets lost, so it assumes you're still holding the key |
| 03:01.39 | ZorbaBeta | pushing it generates another keyup message. |
| 03:01.55 | JamesWC | oh ok..thanks |
| 03:01.59 | ZorbaBeta | not a guaranteed fix, but 95% |
| 03:03.34 | Dagmar | \If you hold down a shift key for too long, Windows is also prone to being retarded about a feature called "StickyKeys" |
| 03:03.46 | Dagmar | It'll chirp a bit and ask you if you'd like it to pretend you are holding the key down. |
| 03:04.07 | Dagmar | From this dialog, even if you don't touch it, there's multiple ways it can now screw up and decide that key IS in fact held down |
| 03:04.38 | Dagmar | So if it screws up from you holding the key down to long while you press other stuff, dig around in there and turn that "feature" off permanently through the control panel |
| 03:07.45 | Thunder_Child | heh i have 6.8K HP at 73 |
| 03:08.31 | Thunder_Child | Glass Canon of WIn |
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| 03:12.46 | Shirik | There's a really annoying bug in WG |
| 03:12.56 | Shirik | You can become a recruit and max rank at the same time |
| 03:13.00 | Shirik | and then you only get 1 badge for winning |
| 03:13.17 | Thunder_Child | and you got the bug? |
| 03:13.19 | Shirik | 100% reproducible :( |
| 03:13.22 | Shirik | several times |
| 03:13.34 | Thunder_Child | STOP BREAKIN TEH GAME! |
| 03:13.54 | Shirik | oh you missed earlier |
| 03:13.56 | Shirik | I went into dalaran |
| 03:13.59 | Shirik | jumped down the well |
| 03:14.02 | Shirik | and missed the port |
| 03:14.05 | Shirik | so got stuck at the bottom of the well |
| 03:14.17 | Thunder_Child | well? |
| 03:15.19 | Dagmar | That was supposed to have been fixed |
| 03:15.37 | Dagmar | Like, it was in the 3.0.8 ot 3.0.1 patch notes I thought |
| 03:16.01 | Thunder_Child | .8 to .1? |
| 03:16.04 | Dagmar | Thunder Child: Yeah that well in Dalaran you probably run past without thinking much of is actually Yet Another Sewer Entrance |
| 03:16.13 | Dagmar | s/ot/or/; |
| 03:16.25 | Thunder_Child | you mean 3.1? |
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| 03:17.11 | Dagmar | Ah wait yeah the "leaked" 3.1 notes |
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| 03:25.01 | Dagmar | I was disappointed about the well. |
| 03:25.26 | Dagmar | Just standing around, waiting on someone, having a virtual smoke next to the thing when I look down it and see (*gasp*) an INSTANCE portal or so it looked |
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| 03:27.35 | Dagmar | Brief fantasies of a single-player instance populated with a lost pygmy tribe... smashed to bits when I landed in the sewer |
| 03:29.16 | Codayus | Heh |
| 03:31.09 | cogwheel | running tradewars game server under xp inside vmware on my ubuntu server and administering it all from my vista computer by VNC... |
| 03:31.45 | Dagmar | Yeah, someday they're going to find out you did that and have you institutionalized |
| 03:34.01 | AnduinLothar | hmmm My Dragonmaw Drake buff didn't dissapear when i left the zone.. |
| 03:34.09 | kd3 | old, old bug |
| 03:34.35 | AnduinLothar | thats nto too surprising |
| 03:34.55 | AnduinLothar | what triggers it? |
| 03:35.07 | kd3 | dunno. it's a heisenbug as far as I know |
| 03:36.39 | Dagmar | Try racing it maybe |
| 03:37.04 | Dagmar | I can't think of anything that would supply a buff effect while mounted that you could trigger at will tho |
| 03:37.09 | Jamash | I used to be able to reproduce it fairly reliably but I forget how |
| 03:37.22 | Dagmar | Maybe using the speedy skimming along the ground trick? |
| 03:37.36 | AnduinLothar | i definitely wasnt doign that |
| 03:37.40 | Jamash | anyway it's a fun bug |
| 03:40.33 | Jamash | hm, is there a way to get an absolute spell ID from a spell name or spellbook ID without generating then parsing a link? |
| 03:40.56 | ZorbaBeta | don't think so |
| 03:41.00 | Jamash | oh well |
| 03:46.09 | AnduinLothar | wait a sec... did they modify [The One That Got Away]? |
| 03:46.34 | AnduinLothar | it says you can fish it up int he lack NE of shattrath, but the description says waters of Nagrand... |
| 03:46.38 | AnduinLothar | lake* |
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| 03:49.24 | AnduinLothar | oh nevermind.. i missread |
| 03:50.21 | AnduinLothar | it says "you can find him fishing", i thought it said "you can find him BY fishing" |
| 03:56.18 | Dagmar | He doesn't drop the fish either. |
| 03:56.26 | AnduinLothar | nope :( |
| 03:56.33 | Dagmar | I get a little testy when he doesn't cought up the missing daily for a week straight |
| 03:56.35 | AnduinLothar | but 'him' coulda meant the fish |
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| 04:20.45 | ccox | Sigh. Watercolor painting is more difficult than it looks. |
| 04:30.03 | Tekkub | oh that's a new one.. I like it.... |
| 04:30.12 | Tekkub | "I'm not gay, but my penis is" |
| 05:12.24 | Dagmar | Grr... forum mods need to regulate on pointless baseless gripery |
| 05:16.54 | Spellbinder | i couldn't find "gripery" in my swe-eng dictionary :( |
| 05:17.13 | Tekkub | bitching |
| 05:17.18 | Spellbinder | kk thx |
| 05:17.24 | Tekkub | use simple words for the foreign bastards here |
| 05:17.34 | Spellbinder | rofl no |
| 05:17.49 | Spellbinder | it makes me look it up and learn, it's all good |
| 05:18.01 | Tekkub | gripery isn't a word :P |
| 05:18.13 | NightHawkTheSane | he should have used griping |
| 05:18.14 | Jamash | you can probably find "gripe" |
| 05:18.21 | Tekkub | and why would you moderate forum stupidity? forums would be empty |
| 05:18.26 | Spellbinder | i only whished i was this dedicated to languages when i was you and it was easy to learn |
| 05:18.29 | Tekkub | and the mods would be overworked |
| 05:18.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: blissful, blissful, emptyness |
| 05:19.24 | Spellbinder | aaah nice, gripe was in it |
| 05:19.42 | Spellbinder | like nagging |
| 05:19.48 | Spellbinder | cool |
| 05:19.57 | Tekkub | bitching |
| 05:20.13 | Tekkub | nagging has a negative connotation but usually a positive intent |
| 05:20.15 | Spellbinder | yeah |
| 05:20.18 | Tekkub | bitching is just bitching |
| 05:20.19 | Spellbinder | oh |
| 05:20.32 | Jamash | there's a great bit in babylon 5 where Delenn is trying to learn english and she complains that everything is defined circularly |
| 05:20.45 | Thunder_Child | true |
| 05:20.49 | Jamash | she's trying to figure out what crotchety means |
| 05:20.49 | Spellbinder | i c, all this negative connotation i have no clue about :/ |
| 05:20.55 | Tekkub | Jamash, yup! |
| 05:20.56 | Jamash | and she looks it up and it says "grouchy" |
| 05:21.09 | Thunder_Child | then she looks up grouch? |
| 05:21.15 | Jamash | and she looks that up and it says cranky |
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| 05:23.02 | Duman | wow, microsoft needs to DIAF |
| 05:23.17 | Tekkub | statement of the obvious |
| 05:23.19 | Duman | http://drplokta.livejournal.com/109267.html |
| 05:23.22 | Tekkub | is it a new reason |
| 05:23.23 | Jamash | but then who will provide us with blue screens and driver conflicts? |
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| 05:23.31 | Tekkub | or one of the thousands of old ones? |
| 05:23.45 | Duman | they decided to make Vista use some obscure RFC's method for doign DNS round robin |
| 05:23.56 | Duman | instead of the normal "random" selection |
| 05:24.23 | Duman | it picks the address "closest" to you, based on IP... by closest, it means "shares the most bits with" |
| 05:24.33 | Jamash | oy |
| 05:24.42 | Tekkub | shares the most bits with? |
| 05:24.53 | Tekkub | what the fuck does that even mean? |
| 05:24.57 | Duman | well like |
| 05:25.05 | Tekkub | the most similar binary value? |
| 05:25.41 | Duman | if I'm at 192.168.1.1, and a DNS RR returns "200.12.23.24" and "202.23.24.25" it will always use the 200 address |
| 05:25.54 | Duman | sorry not hsares the mots bits... but it closest to it "numerically" |
| 05:26.29 | Jamash | "shares the most prefix bits" means has the longest initial string of bits the same |
| 05:26.43 | Jamash | this makes sense in ip6 but is moronic in ip4 |
| 05:26.49 | Tekkub | it's funny the things people bitch about here |
| 05:26.49 | Duman | yeah ipv6 it would be ok |
| 05:26.55 | Tekkub | I'll agree, it should be random |
| 05:27.10 | Tekkub | but on the other hand... you realize what you're bitching about right? |
| 05:27.35 | Duman | yes, microsoft being morons |
| 05:27.48 | Tekkub | numbers! silly little numbers! |
| 05:27.58 | Duman | except that those numbers are very important :) |
| 05:28.09 | Tekkub | I just tried to explain it to Trey and he glazed over |
| 05:28.13 | Duman | haha |
| 05:28.44 | Jamash | simple explanation: "It should be random but it's not" |
| 05:28.50 | Jamash | "and that's bad" |
| 05:29.22 | Tekkub | on to a new subject |
| 05:29.36 | Jamash | is it wow related? |
| 05:29.42 | Tekkub | every time this guy updates "Give Me" I check to see if he's added "Head" to the list |
| 05:29.43 | Tekkub | yes |
| 05:29.51 | Jamash | lulz |
| 05:32.54 | Dagmar | "It should be a useful operating system but it's not" |
| 05:33.05 | Dagmar | "The company should follow existing standards but they don't." |
| 05:33.49 | Dagmar | "You shouldn't get locked into half of what you need to know as an admin being working arounds for incredible ingrained dimwittedness in the operating system, but there you have it" |
| 05:34.23 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:35.01 | Dagmar | YAY Hodir testing tomrrow night |
| 05:36.04 | Dagmar | Time for some payback for spanking his monkey in those dailies |
| 05:44.18 | kd3 | whee at not being stupid... momma said knock you out and arachnophobia |
| 05:49.03 | Thunder_Child | thoes are acheivments (sp?) i believe |
| 05:49.03 | batbot | Thunder_Child, nothing found. |
| 05:51.53 | Dagmar | Ah... I thought she was talking about NetFlix picks |
| 05:54.23 | Thunder_Child | kd3 = he |
| 05:54.49 | Thunder_Child | asuming nothing has changed in the last few weeks |
| 05:57.56 | kd3 | ya, I'm a he |
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| 06:04.10 | Torhal | kd3: You look like characters on my screen. Hmm. |
| 06:06.34 | Thunder_Child | look closer and he will look like pixles |
| 06:06.46 | Thunder_Child | pixels* |
| 06:07.03 | Seerah | or pixies |
| 06:07.06 | Seerah | >.> |
| 06:08.12 | Seerah | did I kill irc again? :( |
| 06:08.21 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 06:08.26 | Thunder_Child | it was already dead tonigh |
| 06:08.29 | Thunder_Child | tonight |
| 06:08.32 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 06:08.33 | purl | Thunder_Child: FAIL! |
| 06:10.24 | Torhal | Seerah: I didn't realize you had murderous tendencies toward IRC. |
| 06:10.33 | Seerah | I don't |
| 06:10.38 | Seerah | just.... accidents |
| 06:10.49 | Torhal | Lemme guess...the gun just went off? |
| 06:10.58 | Thunder_Child | thats what she said |
| 06:12.33 | Torhal | Shirik: I told someone today that if I had to guess, the WoWI updater would be out Soon(tm) |
| 06:12.46 | keias | hrm |
| 06:12.52 | keias | Anyone happen to play an Unholy DK? |
| 06:12.59 | keias | in there, that is. |
| 06:13.10 | keias | here* |
| 06:13.17 | Jamash | yeah |
| 06:13.19 | Thunder_Child | let me put it this way Torhal, i stopped asking when it would be out |
| 06:13.21 | Jamash | only level 68 though |
| 06:13.46 | Seerah | Shirik: he even linked the wowwiki article ;) |
| 06:13.51 | Torhal | Indeed! |
| 06:13.54 | Jamash | keias: why? |
| 06:14.17 | keias | Curious if they still use the Icy Touch glyph |
| 06:14.31 | keias | Then again, there's not many other choices. |
| 06:14.46 | Jamash | ah, well, I'm not 80 yet so I don't have all my glyph slots |
| 06:15.47 | Jamash | hmm, they don't have glyphs on the armory yet |
| 06:17.02 | Spellbinder | if i want to see how many mithril ores i have got, what was the macro again? |
| 06:17.11 | ZorbaBeta | dear god people, heigan is *not that tough* |
| 06:18.37 | Spellbinder | #show mithril ore right? |
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| 06:19.50 | Spellbinder | nm got it |
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| 06:59.34 | NeoTron | hmm any clie if there's a method to see if an item can be disenchanted? |
| 07:11.37 | Thunder_Child | "The day Microshaft makes something that doesn't suck, is the day they make a vacuum." |
| 07:12.35 | Jamash | I wonder if I can make enough cash on the PTR to buy a mammoth, with just inscription |
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| 07:33.00 | Dagmar | Jamash: Maybe save half of your herbs |
| 07:33.23 | Dagmar | They're VERY short on herbs on the PTR generally. |
| 07:33.55 | Dagmar | I've got an alt I took literally a full bank and inventory of herbs over with before wrath and pulled down about 10,000 gold in 24 hours *trying* to stock the AH |
| 07:34.02 | Dagmar | People didn't care. They just bought it |
| 07:34.09 | End | yeah |
| 07:34.15 | Tekkub | of course they don't |
| 07:34.23 | Dagmar | Well, I expected to see *some* sign of scalping |
| 07:34.31 | Tekkub | they do |
| 07:34.35 | Tekkub | but why care? |
| 07:34.38 | Dagmar | Literally a whole toon's inventory gobbled up in 24 flat |
| 07:34.44 | Tekkub | just copy over another toon with 20k :P |
| 07:34.53 | Dagmar | Oh I know I blew a couple thousand yesterday on testing and regearing to test |
| 07:34.56 | Jamash | I don't have that kind of money on live |
| 07:35.10 | Dagmar | Well, I've only got about 2700g now on live becuase I just bought a chopper |
| 07:35.31 | Dagmar | but still... I'm about to copy my toon again just because of more upgrades I made on live and the chopper |
| 07:35.46 | Jamash | I also used up all my copies :-/ |
| 07:35.54 | Dagmar | PvE PTR toon has 13,000. I can give you 2k just because I saw you on IRC |
| 07:35.58 | Dagmar | You on now? |
| 07:36.02 | Jamash | I'm on pvp horde |
| 07:36.05 | Dagmar | Ouch |
| 07:36.11 | End | I could give you 20k if you want |
| 07:36.30 | Jamash | sure |
| 07:36.43 | End | give me a sec to log on |
| 07:37.03 | End | I figure if I really need more gold, I can copy my character over again :P |
| 07:37.13 | Dagmar | Just absolutely, try to exploit the hell out of the mammoth. :) |
| 07:37.31 | Dagmar | PTRs are golden for what weird stuff GMs will tolerate |
| 07:38.01 | kd3 | as long as you file a bug report you can get away with a lot |
| 07:38.21 | Dagmar | I wish they had more space in the report log. |
| 07:38.28 | Dagmar | I like to gloat. :) |
| 07:38.35 | Jamash | I found out you can get an infinite number of abyss crystals out of the new token vendor |
| 07:38.46 | Dagmar | Oh that's an awesome thing to get to report |
| 07:38.50 | Jamash | he has one item with no cost |
| 07:39.00 | End | Jamash: where are you? |
| 07:39.03 | End | I'm on the landing |
| 07:39.17 | Jamash | I'm in the ass end of nowhere, lemme recall |
| 07:39.35 | Dagmar | Was anyone else's toon mostly naked on the charselect screen when they logged into the PTR this evening? |
| 07:39.50 | End | my robe doesn't show on one of the servers |
| 07:40.01 | Dagmar | Clearly it was just visual since I've got my gear, but thta's a lot more dwarf than I really wanted to see |
| 07:40.01 | Jamash | I'm on a DK named Exeunt atm |
| 07:40.41 | Thunder_Child | "THESE ANIMAL DILDOS ARE RIDICULOUS. MY CAT NEVER PLAYS WITH THE TOYS I BOUGHT FOR HIM ALREADY, LIKE HE'D USE THESE." |
| 07:40.42 | End | <-- Zaleiria |
| 07:40.58 | Dagmar | Ah shucks. They must have decided to change something about the city t-shirts |
| 07:41.00 | Dagmar | Mine's gone |
| 07:41.08 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: Freakish, man |
| 07:41.31 | Jamash | zomg thanks :D :D :D |
| 07:41.42 | End | np |
| 07:41.52 | End | I don't exactly place much value in my gold on the ptr anyhow ;-) |
| 07:42.13 | Jamash | I'm probably never gonna be able to afford one of those on live |
| 07:42.16 | Jamash | too many alts |
| 07:42.39 | Dagmar | No crafting skills at 450? |
| 07:42.49 | Jamash | nah |
| 07:43.01 | Thunder_Child | "Microsoft: "You've got questions. We've got dancing paperclips"" |
| 07:43.05 | Dagmar | Maybe start reading this guy's blog then http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/ |
| 07:43.09 | Jamash | so they made it not a vehicle anymore... |
| 07:43.15 | Jamash | which means you can't dismount the vendors? |
| 07:43.26 | Dagmar | Yeah there's already been some carping on the test forum about that |
| 07:43.30 | End | yeah |
| 07:43.34 | End | they said they'd try to fix it |
| 07:43.38 | Jamash | oh good |
| 07:43.39 | Dagmar | They'll probably want to fix that |
| 07:43.41 | End | you also take fall damage now |
| 07:43.47 | Jamash | right |
| 07:43.50 | End | but that's intentional |
| 07:43.53 | Dagmar | Short bus metaphor or not, there were people who really liked being able to tote friends around |
| 07:43.54 | End | the vendor bit wasn't |
| 07:43.59 | End | well |
| 07:44.09 | End | I can pull out my hog or grand ice if I want to carry people |
| 07:44.42 | Jamash | it's kind of funny having a passenger mount on a character who isn't even 70 yet |
| 07:44.53 | End | yeah |
| 07:45.10 | End | I wasn't 80 yet when I got mine, but you're only 67 :P |
| 07:45.44 | Thunder_Child | "*The topic is 'English Language ONLY! That means no German or other Germanic, French or other Romanic, Latin, Leet, Spanish, Portugeese, Croatian, Binary, any Nordic or Slavic or Turkish or Klingon or any animal Language! No Singing! No inventing new languages!' (set by drt_foksie)*" |
| 07:45.54 | Thunder_Child | "<drt_foksie>: if anyone manages to find a loophole in topic now, im banning him." |
| 07:46.20 | Dagmar | hehehe |
| 07:46.50 | Dagmar | I don't suppose it would be a good time to mention the subject of dialects. |
| 07:47.01 | Jamash | iyay oundfay anay oopholeay |
| 07:47.47 | Tekkub | fuck you too |
| 07:47.47 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 07:48.26 | Tekkub | also, technically this IS binary |
| 07:48.54 | Jamash | I am familiar with over six million forms of communication. |
| 07:49.20 | Dagmar | Wow Greedy Goblin didn't really post on combat stuff before. |
| 07:49.21 | End | I prefer the term octets |
| 07:49.38 | Jamash | like that woman with the fertility drugs? |
| 07:49.43 | Cairenn | I'm familiar with a couple - English and body |
| 07:49.52 | End | no, that's octuplets |
| 07:49.58 | kd3 | octomom |
| 07:50.22 | End | wtf is octodog |
| 07:50.28 | End | oh |
| 07:50.32 | End | lol |
| 07:50.36 | End | I remember octodogs |
| 07:50.38 | Jamash | dr octuplet |
| 07:50.41 | End | haha |
| 07:50.52 | Jamash | arch nemesis of spider baby |
| 07:51.46 | Jamash | man, I was supposed to be working on my addon |
| 07:51.48 | Tekkub | octocat? http://github.com/asdfasdfafasdf |
| 07:51.54 | Jamash | then I got distracted by money |
| 07:52.22 | Dagmar | Hm... they changed a pet behaviour |
| 07:52.23 | Jamash | that cat only has four legs and a tail |
| 07:52.35 | End | http://flakmag.com/misc/images/octodog.jpg |
| 07:52.44 | Jamash | aha |
| 07:53.02 | Dagmar | Ah nevermind, I think I just found something that wasn't bound right |
| 07:53.49 | Dagmar | pet was in park mode when I logged in. *Generally* this means after a fight they'll go back to that spot |
| 07:54.03 | Dagmar | I sent him after the test dummy and when I called him off he just stayed by the dummy |
| 07:54.29 | Dagmar | After explicitly reparking him next to me, he returns to the spot just fine |
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| 08:17.26 | kd3 | whee! |
| 08:17.35 | Jamash | grats |
| 08:17.43 | kd3 | got gonna go when the volcano blows because I pulled aggro on tenebron |
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| 08:17.50 | kd3 | lmao |
| 08:18.02 | Kalroth | :( |
| 08:18.03 | Jamash | buh? |
| 08:18.19 | Tekkub | it almost looked like engrish |
| 08:18.21 | kd3 | the only objective of the achievement is to do the fight without getting hit by flamewave |
| 08:18.26 | kd3 | I can be dead and still get the achievement |
| 08:18.28 | Fisker- | gz on being terribad hoho |
| 08:18.33 | Jamash | awesome |
| 08:18.37 | Fisker- | and it's not a flame wave |
| 08:18.38 | kd3 | totally not intentional, sigh |
| 08:18.48 | Tekkub | kd3's corpse earne dthe achievement... |
| 08:18.56 | kd3 | wwwwww |
| 08:19.06 | Tekkub | like that time in beta when the dalaran barber shop door was faulty... |
| 08:19.12 | Tekkub | first time, fall to death |
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| 08:19.16 | kd3 | that was hilarious. I just sat there and watched |
| 08:19.24 | Tekkub | as ghost, fall to corpse, get achievement |
| 08:19.33 | Tekkub | sat inside I assume |
| 08:19.34 | Tekkub | ? |
| 08:19.39 | kd3 | ya |
| 08:19.45 | Kalroth | That's how almost everyone does it, kd3 :) |
| 08:19.48 | kd3 | I danced, waved at people... said 'go get your hair cut' |
| 08:19.56 | kd3 | and people just fell to their doom |
| 08:19.59 | kd3 | 'twas hilarious |
| 08:20.03 | Kalroth | We've had 3 rounds of 15 dead people, 10 people killing the boss |
| 08:20.14 | Tekkub | there was a pile of skeles on the ground AND on one of the floaty rocks |
| 08:20.24 | End | yeah, it's not flame wave though, it's the cyclone shit |
| 08:20.39 | Kalroth | Ah, got knocked into Sarth :) |
| 08:21.32 | Kalroth | We've had a holy priest pull Sarth like that, he wanted to swim to the other side of lava, got knocked into Sarth, Sarth went "nom nom nom" and reset. |
| 08:21.38 | Kalroth | Was almost like feeding a dog a snack. |
| 08:21.46 | kd3 | whee, won the spoils roll |
| 08:22.26 | Tekkub | you know what they need for a boss opener |
| 08:22.34 | Tekkub | a device with a gnome working on it |
| 08:22.46 | Tekkub | you activate the device, it punts the gnome |
| 08:22.53 | kd3 | lol |
| 08:22.58 | Tekkub | boss catches gnome in mid air and swallows whole |
| 08:23.04 | kd3 | one of the bosses in ulduar spawns by pressing a gigantic red button |
| 08:23.12 | Tekkub | if you down him before the gnome is digested, bonus loot! |
| 08:24.47 | Jamash | man wow programming has a lot of edge cases |
| 08:25.16 | Jamash | what if the user learns an epic flying mount while in combat and swapping dual specs???? |
| 08:25.31 | Dagmar | I could get behind watching a gnome being eaten |
| 08:25.42 | Jamash | into vore, eh? |
| 08:25.44 | Dagmar | If they didn't want that they should work harder at not being bite-sized |
| 08:26.10 | Dagmar | Dunno about gore, exactly. |
| 08:26.27 | Dagmar | It's a gnome we're talking about. Are there crumbs when we eat Oreos? No! |
| 08:26.32 | Dagmar | They're bite sized. :) |
| 08:26.38 | Jamash | I eat oreos in three bites |
| 08:30.43 | Tekkub | hehehe Yhatzee made fun of something |
| 08:30.44 | Tekkub | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/584-Spiderman-Web-of-Shadows |
| 08:31.07 | Tekkub | I love his reviews, but when it's not a game I play, well, it's just listening to him be a dick |
| 08:34.11 | Dagmar | I use him as a reliable reviewer. |
| 08:34.21 | Dagmar | If he *can't* pan it then it's probably really good |
| 08:35.40 | kd3 | say, portal |
| 08:37.13 | Corrodias | now i know why it's called "no punctuation". decently amusing. |
| 08:37.30 | Jamash | my favorite thing about web of shadows is that you can swing around off buildings that don't technically exist |
| 08:37.51 | Corrodias | wait, you mean spiderman's web stuff actually attaches to buildings in some continuities? |
| 08:37.55 | Jamash | not that I've actually played the game, just watched it being played |
| 08:38.18 | Jamash | yeah, apparently |
| 08:38.21 | Corrodias | i thought it just kinda hung in the air. and then disintegrated. |
| 08:38.35 | Jamash | it would be nice to be a superhero with a skyhook |
| 08:38.47 | Jamash | I'm sure it's been done |
| 08:40.39 | Fisker- | zomg |
| 08:40.46 | Fisker- | i did wrecking ball without any pocket healers |
| 08:42.34 | Dagmar | You mainly only need one button and the ability to spot clothies at a distance with that one |
| 08:42.35 | Dagmar | Hehe |
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| 08:43.00 | Dagmar | Active Kill Shot == dead mage. :) |
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| 08:57.55 | Fisker- | Dagmar if battlegrounds lasted an infinite amount of time sure |
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| 09:01.41 | Dagmar | I've gotten pretty close 3-4 times now in AV |
| 09:01.55 | Dagmar | Just to see if it could be done that "cheaply" |
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| 09:19.35 | Thunder_Child | "at the risk of sounding unbelievably gay, lace underware has more crotch space than you'd think" |
| 09:21.13 | Thunder_Child | "The office is like a tree full of monkeys trying to climb up. The monkeys on the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes..." |
| 09:25.33 | Shirik | we are 2-manning the boss in Darnassus |
| 09:25.38 | Shirik | whatever her name is |
| 09:25.42 | End | tyrande? |
| 09:25.51 | Shirik | yes |
| 09:26.06 | Dagmar | There's a boss in Darnassus? Heh |
| 09:26.09 | End | that might take a while |
| 09:26.14 | End | boss = faction leader |
| 09:26.16 | Shirik | it is taking a while |
| 09:26.21 | Shirik | but it's working |
| 09:26.22 | Shirik | 80% |
| 09:26.40 | zenzio | poor Fandral, no-one respects his authority |
| 09:26.51 | End | if anyone ever visited darnassus, you wouldn't last long |
| 09:27.02 | Shirik | true |
| 09:27.07 | Shirik | but it's 4 AM and the least used city |
| 09:27.10 | Shirik | except maybe Exodar |
| 09:27.11 | End | yeah |
| 09:27.33 | krka | darnassus is pretty and soothing, i love it! |
| 09:27.34 | Dagmar | Yeah, Exodar people can holler about on my server and everyone's response is "We're not using it. Let them take the whole thing if they like" |
| 09:27.50 | Shirik | lol |
| 09:29.02 | Dagmar | It's when they come to Ironforge that you just have to mention "It looks like they're heading for the auction house! Watch out!" and all those alts suddenly logout |
| 09:29.18 | Shirik | actually I take it back |
| 09:29.22 | Shirik | there are actually a bunch of people here |
| 09:29.22 | Dagmar | You can pretty much start counting down the seconds before they get crushed |
| 09:29.28 | Shirik | they're all lv 30, etc. |
| 09:29.31 | End | lol |
| 09:29.52 | Dagmar | You threaten their money and PvE people wake right up |
| 09:31.04 | Thunder_Child | "A hockey puck, mass 0.115kg, moving at 35 m/s, strikes an octopus thrown onto the ice by a fan. The octopus has a mass of 0.265 kg. The puck and octopus slide off together. Find the velocity." |
| 09:31.30 | krka | yay, maths |
| 09:31.35 | Dagmar | This is assuming the octopus didn't gib? |
| 09:31.37 | krka | i bet shirik is gonna jump right on that :) |
| 09:31.48 | Shirik | not while trying to 2 man tyrande |
| 09:31.50 | Shirik | maybe later |
| 09:32.05 | Dagmar | Wait, you're two-manning the capital leader? |
| 09:32.16 | Dagmar | I bet people might stand around just to see if you can pull it off |
| 09:32.18 | krka | preservation of momentum should be enough to solve it though |
| 09:32.25 | Shirik | yes Dagmar |
| 09:32.26 | Dagmar | krka: Yep |
| 09:32.44 | krka | 0.115 * 35 m/s = (0.265+0.115) * x |
| 09:32.48 | Dagmar | If there were angles involved it would be different but a twelve-year old might be able to guess that math problem |
| 09:33.47 | krka | yes, it's easier when the octopus has 0 momentum |
| 09:34.29 | Dagmar | A more cynical person might say the octopus is angry and sticking to the ice. |
| 09:35.01 | krka | octipi are never angry! |
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| 09:40.58 | Thunder_Child | i think my sanity demands i stop reading bash |
| 09:41.10 | zenzio | it does; but it's so fun! |
| 09:41.27 | Thunder_Child | but at what price? |
| 09:50.51 | Dagmar | You'll write a hash function in bash. |
| 09:51.18 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: its working isnt it? shes a pushover |
| 09:52.05 | Dagmar | \] |
| 09:52.16 | Jamash | now why would a frame with an absolute width suddenly become twice as wide |
| 09:52.27 | Arrowmaster | scaling? |
| 09:52.58 | Jamash | nah, the elements are the same size |
| 09:53.36 | Shirik | 1m hp to go on tyrande |
| 09:54.12 | Jamash | it's supposed to be exactly 170 units wide, and yet GetWidth() returns 302.96... |
| 09:54.48 | krka | cool, tyrande has the same abilities as potm in war3 |
| 09:54.55 | krka | except trueshot, it seems |
| 09:55.31 | Jamash | even more puzzling since there's only one call to setwidth in the whole addon |
| 09:58.36 | krka | wtf is this true? "You can pick pocket Tyrande, she dropped "A steamy romance novel..."" |
| 10:01.00 | Shirik | tyrande 400k |
| 10:01.09 | Shirik | my buffs are about to wear off |
| 10:01.44 | nevcairiel | If i would stand aroudn to see if you can manage, i would kill you on 5% |
| 10:01.54 | krka | :D |
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| 10:03.41 | krka | shirik: what classes? |
| 10:03.56 | Shirik | dead |
| 10:03.58 | krka | also, why do you have both shirik and Shirik|AFK? |
| 10:03.58 | Shirik | priest + druid |
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| 10:04.17 | Shirik | oh nice |
| 10:04.35 | Shirik | 40g |
| 10:06.08 | Shirik | total fight time: about 1 hr |
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| 10:08.46 | Shirik | Tank did 7.9 million damage, total |
| 10:08.51 | Jamash | nice |
| 10:08.59 | Shirik | most of tyrande + adds |
| 10:09.01 | Shirik | for 1 hour |
| 10:10.04 | Shirik | nevcairiel: There were a few people who tried to do that |
| 10:10.08 | Shirik | they got... rather owned |
| 10:10.41 | krka | by just you two? |
| 10:11.05 | Shirik | yeah |
| 10:11.07 | Shirik | funny huh? |
| 10:11.19 | krka | i am not sure |
| 10:11.19 | Shirik | Admittedly it was rather hard to kill him and heal at the same time |
| 10:11.22 | Shirik | but he still got stomped |
| 10:11.30 | Shirik | there was a hunter and some boomkin |
| 10:13.09 | Shirik | admittedly, we have the best druid on the server so, it's slightly unfair |
| 10:13.31 | Shirik | and possibly the best priest on the server but I refuse to be egotistical |
| 10:13.56 | krka | is there anything you can't do? |
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| 10:17.47 | Shirik | I |
| 10:17.51 | Shirik | can't dps |
| 10:17.52 | Shirik | worth shit |
| 10:25.32 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, DPS'ing is more mindless than any other role....how the fuck do you fial at it? |
| 10:25.38 | Thunder_Child | fail* |
| 10:25.39 | Shirik | my gear fails at it |
| 10:25.41 | Thunder_Child | gj Thunder_Child |
| 10:25.44 | Shirik | and my spec |
| 10:25.50 | Shirik | oh btw krka |
| 10:25.55 | Shirik | that's my laptop and my desktop |
| 10:26.14 | Thunder_Child | does that mean you are going to dual spec to dps after 3.1? |
| 10:26.24 | krka | switch to irssi! |
| 10:26.28 | Shirik | nevar |
| 10:26.32 | Thunder_Child | and you can dps in healer gear damn well |
| 10:27.00 | Thunder_Child | there was a sp in 50% healer gear (eg. mp/5) that pulled 3K dps |
| 10:28.03 | Shirik | I higt 1500 dps during the fight |
| 10:28.07 | Shirik | and I was healing too |
| 10:28.08 | Shirik | hit* |
| 10:28.19 | Shirik | but I think I could be a lot better if I was specced appropriately |
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| 10:39.31 | Dagmar | AHA |
| 10:39.38 | Dagmar | I know why Comodo now sometimes just shuts people down |
| 10:40.16 | batrick | o ya |
| 10:40.49 | Dagmar | I think it was Thunder complainign about it last week |
| 10:41.32 | Dagmar | Whitelist database must have gotten zeroed out somehow, but that will definitely do it. I figure something when wrong when Thunder did the update |
| 10:41.56 | Dagmar | I've been throwing stuff at it all week. |
| 10:42.04 | Dagmar | Daddy like |
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| 11:08.56 | Cairenn|afk | you go get some sleep too! |
| 11:10.00 | Shirik | eventually |
| 11:10.03 | Shirik | maybe tomorrow |
| 11:10.08 | Cairenn|afk | >< |
| 11:10.12 | Cairenn|afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:10.19 | Cairenn|afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:10.50 | nevcairiel | somehow it looks weird when caireen tells someone to sleep more |
| 11:11.14 | jnwhiteh | idd |
| 11:13.45 | zenzio | maybe she's being suggestive |
| 11:19.24 | nevcairiel | anyone know whats the filter setting for UnitDebuff is for debuff i can cure? |
| 11:19.27 | nevcairiel | PLAYER? |
| 11:19.29 | nevcairiel | or RAID? |
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| 11:36.20 | nevcairiel | !api UnitDebuff |
| 11:36.20 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'UnitDebuff' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitDebuff |
| 11:40.19 | Elkano | UnitDebuff is only shortcut to UnitAura anyways |
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| 11:41.05 | nevcairiel | That answers my question how? =) |
| 11:59.43 | mikma | huh, where can i find info on how to print item tooltips into custom buttons i create? |
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| 12:03.42 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: foudn your answer? |
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| 12:04.47 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: if not, it's RAID |
| 12:05.29 | Maldivia | mikma: into buttons? |
| 12:07.00 | Movix1 | hi all, is there a way to get the folder an addon is installed ? is this allways interface/addons/addonname ? for an embeded lib having textures, how would you be sure to have the right path to that pictures ? |
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| 12:09.17 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: i assumed it would be raid, player being things i actually cast myself, but thanks :) |
| 12:09.34 | Maldivia | Movix1: addon name and folder name is always the same |
| 12:10.41 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: in an addon of mine I have a line like: local hasCurable = UnitDebuff(unit, 1, "RAID"); |
| 12:10.56 | mikma | apparently it was simple after all |
| 12:11.04 | mikma | GameTooltip:SetHyperlink(select(2,GetItemInfo(17031))) |
| 12:11.22 | Maldivia | mikma: ahh, that what you meant :9 |
| 12:12.06 | Maldivia | mikma: didn't quite get what you meant by into custom button - I was thinking something like you wanted to copy the info or something, and write it in buttons :) |
| 12:12.24 | mikma | yeah sorry, i suck at explaining stuff ;( |
| 12:13.07 | Maldivia | but yeah, SetHyperlink("item:xxxx" | "spell:xxx" | "enchant:xxx") etc |
| 12:15.00 | mikma | now i need to find out what event do i need to rely on reagent changes |
| 12:28.55 | Maldivia | reagent changes? |
| 12:33.18 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_030509_143141.jpg |
| 12:33.28 | mikma | BAG_UPDATE did the trick |
| 12:37.00 | Movix1 | what's the name of this IG dev addon plz ? |
| 12:37.47 | Kalroth | Patch 3.1 will feature a MIKMA_UPDATE event, everyone online gets a notice when mikma updates something! |
| 12:38.02 | mikma | \o/ woop woop woooop |
| 12:39.13 | Kalroth | Oh wait, it wasn't his addons, it's himself, it's a stalker event. |
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| 12:39.59 | mikma | kalroth: http://mikma.reaktio.net/misc/Futurama-woop_Woop.mp3 |
| 12:40.24 | Kalroth | :D |
| 12:41.16 | Maldivia | mikma: why are you looking up the spell name? GetSpellLink can be used with spellId |
| 12:41.38 | mikma | maldivia: can't remember why, it's from my old addon (copypastah) |
| 12:42.31 | Maldivia | mikma: just find it funny, you have spellId, then get name, then extract the spell id from link fetched from the spell name |
| 12:42.56 | mikma | maldivia: yeah it might be funny, i admit :) my code usually is funny |
| 12:44.03 | mikma | maldivia: and you are talking about which line? |
| 12:44.52 | Maldivia | mikma: from the screenshot, the tooltip generation |
| 12:45.10 | Maldivia | mikma: local name=, local id=, local rank= lines |
| 12:45.52 | mikma | maldivia: http://wow.reaktio.net/Mage_PortalTeleport.lua <- the code is funneh :) |
| 12:46.51 | mikma | oh right, now i understood what you meant.. took a while :D |
| 12:47.21 | mikma | it might have something to do with the fact that's from my totem-addon |
| 12:47.23 | Maldivia | mikma: and why even add the rank info for the portals - they don't have ranks |
| 12:47.32 | mikma | usually when you create tooltips of spells they don't have ranks |
| 12:47.48 | mikma | and that code fetched the rank of the spells and added it in the tooltip |
| 12:47.59 | mikma | like i said, copypasta :D |
| 12:48.17 | mikma | but what the hell, i already deleted that code once! magic... |
| 12:48.25 | krka | mikma: what does the code do? |
| 12:48.48 | mikma | krka: the portal/teleport box in middle of the screen |
| 12:48.57 | krka | i see |
| 12:49.00 | mikma | krka: http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_030509_143141.jpg |
| 12:49.10 | Maldivia | I would just delete all the local lines and GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("spell:" .. spellID); GameTooltipTextRight1:SetText(select(2, GetSpellInfo(spellID))); |
| 12:49.53 | Maldivia | or delete the SetText call for this, since there are no ranks |
| 12:50.14 | mikma | i did actually :) |
| 12:50.27 | mikma | now it's just: GameTooltip:SetHyperlink(GetSpellLink(spellID)) |
| 12:51.27 | Maldivia | or just SetHyperlink("spell:" .. spellID); |
| 12:51.47 | mikma | even better imho |
| 12:51.52 | Arrowmaster | _G.SetHyperlink isnt a function |
| 12:52.04 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 12:52.06 | Arrowmaster | nvm |
| 12:53.24 | Maldivia | mikma: everywhere I use GetSpellLink in my code, I actually have it wrapped, since it returns nil for some spells, which is really annoying |
| 12:53.42 | Maldivia | mikma: so I usually have fallback code to generate the link manually :) |
| 12:54.22 | mikma | GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("item:"..17032) |
| 12:54.56 | mikma | i just hate the fact that i have to do the annoying SetPoint -code to make it look pretty |
| 12:55.05 | mikma | but other option would be .xml O_O |
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| 12:55.42 | Arrowmaster | xml is not pertty |
| 12:56.08 | mikma | also the fact that if you learn new teleports/portals you need to do a /rl :I |
| 12:56.19 | mikma | haven't yet figured out how to do that in a "wise" way |
| 12:56.29 | Maldivia | mikma: there's a spell learned event |
| 12:57.03 | mikma | there sure is, just need to find it and register it, and then do a function that watches it and :Show() / :Hide() the buttons ^^ |
| 12:57.39 | mikma | also i wanna do this without globals but i have no idea yet how :D |
| 12:57.56 | Maldivia | LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB or SPELLS_CHANGED |
| 12:58.15 | mikma | let's see what wowprogramming thinks about them |
| 12:58.43 | mikma | actually |
| 12:58.51 | mikma | either of those will do fine apparently |
| 12:59.01 | mikma | since we do know where the portal and teleport spells go |
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| 13:00.10 | Maldivia | well, the first is the best, since the latter also fires for spell icon changes, for instance when the Attack or Shoot spell change icon, when you swap weapon/wand |
| 13:04.04 | mikma | uh hot. |
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| 13:08.10 | mikma | GAH! now i can't think of a nice way of checking all the spells through |
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| 13:12.21 | Legorol | morning |
| 13:12.42 | Legorol | Does anyone happen to know *exactly* how close does a Power Spark have to get to Malygos in order to successfully buff him? |
| 13:13.05 | Legorol | Spark's center touches Malygos's hit box? Spark's hit box touches Malygos's hit box? |
| 13:13.23 | krka | sparks center touches malygos center! |
| 13:13.38 | Olorin` | can anyone help me with a problem setting a value on two dropdown menus, if using UIDropDownMenu_SetSelectedValue(DDItemSlotMenu, 0) and UIDropDownMenu_SetSelectedValue(DDItemSubTypeMenu, 0) , sometimes it sets the same value to both even though they are different menu lists |
| 13:14.13 | Maldivia | mikma: why not just list all portals, and mark those you don't have or don't have the reagents for as unavailable |
| 13:14.15 | krka | afaik, blizzards own dropdown menus are a singleton |
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| 13:14.25 | Maldivia | mikma checking with something like IsSpellUsable |
| 13:14.34 | Maldivia | mikma: ehh, IsUsableSpell |
| 13:14.52 | Olorin` | krka what do you mean by that? |
| 13:15.26 | krka | not sure, but when i last played with drop down menus, it was clear that there was only one graphical representation of them |
| 13:15.54 | krka | and i think there was a fixed level of submenus too |
| 13:15.55 | Maldivia | blizzard's drop down boxes are evil |
| 13:15.59 | krka | not sure if that relates to your problem |
| 13:16.43 | Olorin` | not trying to change its appearence, trying to make a reset button that uses lua to set the value for two dropdowns to their top/first entry |
| 13:16.49 | Olorin` | seems to be rather erratic |
| 13:16.57 | Maldivia | Olorin`: if the drop down box isn't visible when you call set selected value, then it doesn't really take affect and can influence other visible drop down boxes instead |
| 13:17.26 | Olorin` | Maldivia: both are visiable at time of setting |
| 13:18.05 | Maldivia | Olorin`: ohh well, I just know they are a bitch to work with, since they store data in shared variables, so if you chance something for multiple, they might interfere with eachother |
| 13:18.32 | Olorin` | its as if the process is multi-threaded and its holding the first menulist when the second setselectedvalue is issued |
| 13:18.53 | Maldivia | well, it's not multi-threaded, but it IS holding the first menulist |
| 13:19.40 | Olorin` | Maldivia: thanks for that confirmation, any pointers on how to work around this? |
| 13:21.35 | Maldivia | Olorin`: look at the code for the drop down menus, to get an idea what data is shared, and how it's used in OnUpdate etc |
| 13:22.25 | Olorin` | Maldivia: okies, thanks |
| 13:23.06 | Maldivia | well, that's the best advice I can give right now, been a while since I worked with them, so can't erally remember all the quirks |
| 13:24.02 | Wobin | ahahahah http://www.urbancamouflage.de/ <-- Urban ghillie suits for the discerning Ikea sniper =P |
| 13:24.04 | Olorin` | quirks.... thats one way of describing them |
| 13:25.32 | mikma | maldivia: apparently IsUsableSpell(portal/teleport ID) returns nil |
| 13:26.28 | Maldivia | mikma: hmm, tried with spell name? |
| 13:27.23 | Maldivia | mikma: since it works on known spells only, I think it only accepts name and index/book as arguments |
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| 13:38.40 | mikma | maldivia: apparently spellname works, but id doesn't |
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| 13:58.17 | Adys | how usable is pitbull4 nowadays? |
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| 14:11.15 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio! |
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| 14:45.17 | Adys | bah |
| 14:45.21 | Adys | http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-14528/ doesnt work in 3.1 anymore |
| 14:45.54 | Kalroth | fixit |
| 14:46.03 | Adys | will do maybe |
| 14:46.59 | nevcairiel | probably just need to fix the hooking |
| 14:47.04 | nevcairiel | due to the new xml syntax |
| 14:47.17 | Adys | QuestWatchFrame doesnt exist or something like that |
| 14:47.22 | Adys | didnt look further |
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| 14:57.14 | alestane | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443530582&sid=1 too nasty? |
| 14:57.30 | Lopeppeppy | If you have to ask, the answer is yes... but I'll go look. |
| 14:58.12 | alestane | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:58.16 | Lopeppeppy | Try fixing that parenthesis, dear. And get some coffee? |
| 14:58.29 | Lopeppeppy | I'm the only dino allowed to be pissy this morning, spot's already taken, get in line. |
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| 14:59.00 | alestane | I guess, I just hate seeing someone get thanked for patently wrong advice. |
| 14:59.17 | Lopeppeppy | (tested and works) might be a good substitute |
| 14:59.54 | alestane | fixing as in removing/toning down? |
| 14:59.59 | Lopeppeppy | *nod* |
| 15:02.02 | alestane | The one thing I struggle with occasionally about being an MVP. Fortunately I'm not generally inclined to truly go off on people. |
| 15:02.13 | Lopeppeppy | I am. *wicked grin* |
| 15:02.56 | alestane | Can you report posts for being flat-out wrong, or only for being inappropriate? |
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| 15:03.37 | Lopeppeppy | Inappropriate. |
| 15:03.51 | Lopeppeppy | You could say, "I don't believe the macro given above works. Try this one, I know it does." |
| 15:05.05 | alestane | I hate to say "don't believe it does" when I mean "know for a fact it won't", but I settled for just stripping the commentary out entirely and posting a working macro. |
| 15:06.18 | Lopeppeppy | *nod* Sometimes that's best. |
| 15:06.24 | Lopeppeppy | I do not want a ham sandwich for breakfast. |
| 15:06.43 | alestane | Why has Peppy not had breakfast by 10am? |
| 15:07.22 | mikma | hey umm, warlock and his/her minion |
| 15:07.34 | mikma | does it get new spells with levelups or how can you train them? |
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| 15:07.59 | alestane | They learn new spells and ranks when they gain levels (which is when the warlock gains levels). |
| 15:08.34 | mikma | okidoki, thanks :) |
| 15:09.32 | Lopeppeppy | alestane: Fridge broken. I spent my morning shoving things into coolers and out onto the porch. I'm eating the ham because it's perishable and it's here. I also had an appointment first thing this AM, so I didn't get to eat it when I got in. Making it now. |
| 15:09.44 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, do you not have to go to the demon trainer for books anymore? |
| 15:09.54 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: No you do not. |
| 15:09.57 | alestane | As of 3.0 I think. |
| 15:10.03 | Lopeppeppy | Holy crap! Maybe I should play mine again! |
| 15:10.13 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, I hate the pet mechanics. |
| 15:10.19 | alestane | You do not have to remember which books the demons you don't have summoned have and have not learned. |
| 15:10.31 | Lopeppeppy | I hated that. So much. You can't imagine. |
| 15:10.38 | Lopeppeppy | Of course you can. |
| 15:10.48 | Jamash | I used an addon to track that |
| 15:10.51 | alestane | Or spend soul shards summoning through all of them to double-check and read them their bedtime stories. |
| 15:11.16 | alestane | Peppy? Dear? I've played a warlock for over three and a half years now. |
| 15:11.28 | alestane | All the way to level 80 now. |
| 15:11.45 | Jamash | now we have the problem that dual specs unsummons your demon without returning a shard |
| 15:11.56 | Jamash | hopefully they'll address that |
| 15:12.17 | alestane | Post about it the PTR forum if someone hasn't already. |
| 15:17.17 | alestane | On the other hand, summoning another demon does not refund the shard cost of the one replaced, so it may be WAI. |
| 15:17.53 | Jamash | it does if you run away from it first >.> |
| 15:18.06 | alestane | Trust me, I know. |
| 15:18.30 | Hjalte | Jamash: People used to laugh at me when I ran around in raid instances just to get a shard. |
| 15:18.44 | Lopeppeppy | Apparently shards will be much easier to get, at least. |
| 15:19.17 | Jamash | someone said in the current build you can get them off of training dummies |
| 15:19.20 | alestane | You'll be able to get some shards back while repeatedly wiping on a boss fight, for instance. |
| 15:20.30 | Jamash | yep |
| 15:21.08 | alestane | Just as well, 'cause they're also capping teh total you can carry in with you. |
| 15:21.36 | Jamash | stupid mobs, trying to fight me while I herb |
| 15:21.47 | Hjalte | I used to bring 40+ shards to wipenights on Illidan. But at least you could get two mostly from the fire elementals. |
| 15:22.41 | kneeki | Hmm, is anything being done to the default blizzard buttons after they are created with ActionButtonTemplate.xml ? |
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| 15:22.53 | kneeki | I am using that exact code, and my buttons look different |
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| 15:23.25 | kneeki | Different as in, the border graphics around my buttons are darker than the blizzard action buttons |
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| 15:29.33 | alestane | Yay, found a way to get the Bough Shadow discovery that doesn't involve being raped by dragons. |
| 15:29.56 | Jamash | cool |
| 15:30.14 | Lopeppeppy | The what? |
| 15:30.31 | Jamash | one of the green dragon spawn points |
| 15:30.33 | nevcairiel | being high-level enough to just rape the dragons yourself is nice |
| 15:30.48 | alestane | At 58, maybe. |
| 15:30.53 | alestane | The littler ones. |
| 15:31.20 | nevcairiel | at 60 one could solo the small dragons, on 80 they run in fear =) |
| 15:31.53 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Bough Shadow is in the northeastern corner of Ashenvale, where the emerald dragons spawn sometimes, right before Azshara. |
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| 15:32.09 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, you're doing it wrong, 'cause I get that one around level 25ish. |
| 15:32.23 | alestane | Unfortunately, the named zone is well inside the boundary of the guardian dragons' territories. |
| 15:32.26 | nevcairiel | you can sneak up the southern hill, i believe that gets you discovery already |
| 15:32.36 | alestane | That's what I did this time, yes. |
| 15:32.46 | alestane | Found a notch where I can come over the hill. |
| 15:32.49 | Lopeppeppy | I just sorta sneak in when I got get the Azshara flight point. |
| 15:38.42 | alestane | And yes, I was doing it wrong, because the whole point of that announcement was "oh look, a better way." |
| 15:39.53 | Lopeppeppy | I'm so surly today! I'm gonna not-talk for a while, that will make things better. *hugs* |
| 15:40.44 | alestane | I hate to have you all quiet, but if that will help you feel better... |
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| 15:41.59 | Lopeppeppy | It will help me not strip the skin off you anymore! |
| 15:42.35 | alestane | I'm not abraded yet, so up to you. |
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| 15:56.11 | alestane | Alrighty then. |
| 15:56.13 | Lopeppeppy | Break the channel if you're stripping in front of us.... |
| 15:57.08 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew. |
| 15:57.11 | Lopeppeppy | Get a paper bag for that. |
| 15:57.49 | Ackis | pfft I see you throwing loonies my way girl! |
| 15:59.28 | Lopeppeppy | Loonies? Like, cartoons, because it's too surreal for reality? |
| 15:59.46 | Jamash | they're tiny, they're toony, they're all a little loony |
| 15:59.48 | Ackis | bah bloody americans |
| 15:59.49 | Lopeppeppy | Or am I hurling painful metal coins at you, hoping to raise welts big enough to shield mine eyes from the glory? |
| 15:59.58 | Ackis | metal coins |
| 16:00.14 | Jamash | I got two pennies as change the other day |
| 16:00.14 | Ackis | ~cookie Lopeppeppy |
| 16:00.29 | Jamash | all I could think was they were payment for the boatman |
| 16:01.00 | alestane | For Kharon, you mean? |
| 16:01.04 | alestane | The Stugian Ferry? |
| 16:01.08 | alestane | Stygian* |
| 16:01.10 | Jamash | ya |
| 16:01.18 | Jamash | seemed kind of creepy |
| 16:01.45 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy must be happy now, she has cookie |
| 16:02.28 | Lopeppeppy | I need a lot of cookies. Like... where are my Girl Scout cookies I ordered, kinda thing. Oiy. |
| 16:03.17 | Ackis | lua> for i=1,1000000,1 do print("I gives Lopeppeppy cookie!!!") end |
| 16:03.19 | lua_bot | Ackis: I gives Lopeppeppy cookie!!!, I gives Lopeppeppy cookie!!!, I gives Lopeppeppy cookie!!!, I gives Lopeppeppy cookie!!!, I gives Lopeppeppy cookie!!!, I gives Lopeppeppy cookie!!!, I gives Lopeppeppy cookie!!!, I gives Lopeppeppy cookie!!!, I gives Lopeppeppy cookie!!!, I gives Lopeppeppy cookie!!!, ... (result truncated) |
| 16:03.34 | Lopeppeppy | Awwwwww! you coded me some cookies! |
| 16:03.34 | Jamash | are you trying to break the channel |
| 16:03.35 | alestane | Oh thank the Legion. |
| 16:04.12 | alestane | A million cookies would not have fit in the wheelbarrow. |
| 16:04.12 | Jamash | are you trying to break the lua bot |
| 16:04.28 | Ackis | lua bot is strong! |
| 16:04.33 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: some truncated cookies |
| 16:04.34 | Lopeppeppy | Pull cart when ox dies! |
| 16:04.45 | Lopeppeppy | Truncated cookies are better than no cookies at all, zenzelezz. |
| 16:08.36 | Ackis | (does that mean you can get me unbanned from the forums? :P) |
| 16:08.54 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, as if. :) |
| 16:09.08 | alestane | My brownies are full of Kahlua frosting and Peppy should probably not have them at work. |
| 16:09.17 | Lopeppeppy | Oh yes I damn well should! |
| 16:09.28 | Lopeppeppy | Did I tell you they're turning down the heat for spring break? |
| 16:09.30 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: the other green I harassed stepped down :( I guess I asked him for a random mount macro once too many times |
| 16:09.45 | alestane | So what I really need to give you is a blanket then. |
| 16:09.47 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, I do not harass easily. I have the biggest teeth of us all. |
| 16:09.58 | Lopeppeppy | Electric blanket is coming to work with me for the next 2 weeks, actualy. |
| 16:10.26 | Ackis | it's the worst snow storm of the year, so I called in "too lazy to make the 90 minute commute to work this morning" |
| 16:10.41 | Lopeppeppy | I do that when it snows badly, and it's only 20 minutes for me. |
| 16:11.09 | alestane | My wife tried to do that on Monday after we spent twenty minutes digging out the snowplow stuck in our diveway. |
| 16:11.14 | alestane | driveway. |
| 16:11.41 | Lopeppeppy | The... snowplow... but then again, I know what snowplows in your town are, tiny pickup trucks with spatulas attached |
| 16:11.48 | alestane | But then when she realized it had stopped snowing, her boss's "everyone else is here" started to get to her and she ended up going in anyway. |
| 16:12.27 | alestane | He got his back wheels stuck behind the snowpack he'd created, and no, he didn't have chains. And yes, he's a private contractor. |
| 16:12.43 | Ackis | s/private contractor/dumbass/ |
| 16:12.54 | Lopeppeppy | *nod* |
| 16:12.56 | Lopeppeppy | Spatulas |
| 16:13.19 | Ackis | so the guy that cut off the other dudes head and ate part of him is going to be found "guitly" or "not compotent" today |
| 16:13.30 | Lopeppeppy | Not competent, is my bet |
| 16:13.38 | Ackis | totally |
| 16:13.43 | Ackis | I disagree |
| 16:13.50 | alestane | As in not mentally competent to stand trial? |
| 16:13.50 | Ackis | he knew what he was doing was wrong |
| 16:13.54 | Ackis | but he's batshit crazy |
| 16:13.57 | Ackis | alestane: aye |
| 16:13.58 | Lopeppeppy | Humans are too full of germs, don't eat it unless it's cooked to 180 thoroughly |
| 16:14.14 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: i like my meat bloody tyvm |
| 16:14.21 | Lopeppeppy | Me too, that's why I don't eat human |
| 16:14.29 | Ackis | you should try it |
| 16:14.33 | Ackis | tastes like pork |
| 16:14.35 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, I'll remember that. |
| 16:14.39 | Ackis | lol |
| 16:14.59 | alestane | Probably does, actually, pigs have a very compatible biology. |
| 16:15.08 | Ackis | i joke w/ my gf about "raping and murdering her" when we're watching CSI or something stupid like that and she says "at least I'll die with a smile on my face" |
| 16:15.24 | alestane | You have a very tolerant girlfriend then. |
| 16:15.29 | Lopeppeppy | *sigh* |
| 16:15.40 | Lopeppeppy | Needs more cookies, I'm all out. |
| 16:15.51 | Ackis | you ate them all? |
| 16:16.04 | Lopeppeppy | Nom. Peppy is having a BAD day. |
| 16:16.37 | alestane | Should it transpire that I am passing that way this weekend, I will indeed bring brownies then. |
| 16:16.48 | Lopeppeppy | A timely gift that will be. |
| 16:17.09 | Ackis | special borwnies? |
| 16:17.16 | Lopeppeppy | Of course, if they are for me. |
| 16:17.44 | alestane | There are kinds and kinds of special. |
| 16:17.59 | Lopeppeppy | Are you denying that you would make them be special? |
| 16:18.29 | alestane | I am pointing out that the kind of special I would make may not be the kind of special that Ackis means. |
| 16:18.42 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. |
| 16:19.14 | Jamash | the question is whether "special" gets you in trouble with the DEA |
| 16:19.29 | alestane | Pretty special, but not "Alice B. Toklas" special. |
| 16:20.43 | alestane | Mudslide brownies taste better, though, I bet. |
| 16:20.46 | Lopeppeppy | No, I never get in trouble with the DEA |
| 16:27.31 | Ackis | i swear my animals are retarded... one of the cats "loses" us and starts meowing because he can't find us |
| 16:28.40 | kneeki | Ackis: My kitten did that for awhile. |
| 16:28.43 | Wimpsy` | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20830 - Hehe, i giggled :) |
| 16:29.35 | Ackis | kneeki: I have to call out "Murky, we're upstairs" or something like that for him... lol |
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| 16:29.46 | kneeki | Haha |
| 16:30.59 | Ackis | yes I named one of my cats after a wow in-game pet |
| 16:31.29 | kneeki | lol |
| 16:31.37 | kneeki | My cat is named Nyx |
| 16:31.43 | kneeki | And he has gotten dumber with age. |
| 16:32.07 | Ackis | lol |
| 16:33.24 | kneeki | StormFX online here anywhere? |
| 16:34.37 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, the cat is likely wanting to show you something downstairs, a juicy spider or something. You're missing it by calling him upstairs. :) |
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| 16:36.25 | Ackis | lol |
| 16:36.26 | Ackis | :P |
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| 16:45.22 | alestane | Not what I was looking for but still good.: http://www.threepanelsoul.com/view.php?date=2007-10-05 |
| 16:46.28 | Lopeppeppy | Yes. Kendra hunts invisible space aliens a lot. |
| 16:47.26 | Fisker- | hey Ackis |
| 16:47.29 | Fisker- | why must i hate you? |
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| 16:51.30 | Lunessa | station. |
| 16:52.38 | Ackis | any broker addons similar to fubar performance fu? |
| 16:52.42 | Lunessa | I seriously should be outside enjoying the balmy 75f and sun. |
| 16:53.24 | nevcairiel | Ackis: broker_sysmon |
| 16:53.28 | Ackis | ty nev |
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| 16:54.28 | Ackis | hmm broker currency or money |
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| 16:57.09 | alestane | Ackis: This is what I was looking for before: http://www.threepanelsoul.com/view.php?date=2008-07-08 |
| 16:57.29 | Tekkub | hehe |
| 16:58.22 | Ackis | lol |
| 16:58.25 | kneeki | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=119109&postcount=7 Any ButtonFacade familiar people want to offer some hints? =( |
| 16:58.59 | Ackis | alestane: when we went to the SPCA to get the last cat, thay asked why we picked him out and our response was "he seemed retarded" |
| 16:59.16 | Lopeppeppy | ..... |
| 16:59.30 | foxlit | kneeki: you may need to hint to ButtonFacade which cooldown widget to use |
| 16:59.31 | Lopeppeppy | I took my baby home because she was washing all the other cats to death. :) |
| 16:59.46 | Tekkub | sounds like Rommie |
| 16:59.50 | Tekkub | she licks everything |
| 16:59.56 | kneeki | foxlit: Oh? I did not know I had to do that... Hmmm |
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| 17:01.36 | foxlit | LBFGroup:AddButton(button, {Cooldown=CooldownWidget}); |
| 17:02.23 | kneeki | foxlit: Yeah, I'm reading that area now... Hmmmm... So I'd just do a LBFGroup:AddButton(button, {Cooldown="ClassButton1Cooldown"}); ? |
| 17:02.40 | foxlit | I think you need a reference rather than a name |
| 17:02.57 | kneeki | I don't know what you mean |
| 17:03.10 | Lunessa | Yeah, I only cribbed examples for your from Dominos, not the full implementation. |
| 17:04.10 | kneeki | Lunessa: Mhmm, thanks for that btw =) |
| 17:04.10 | kneeki | I have it all working, just the cooldown thing is shotty |
| 17:04.13 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 17:04.22 | Lunessa | Morning Peppy dear. |
| 17:04.40 | foxlit | iirc, BF also does detection based on widget names |
| 17:05.13 | Olison | Anyone knows an AddOn that filters all messages with LFG, LFM out of Trade chat? |
| 17:05.19 | kneeki | My buttons are fairly generic. They are basicly a copy/paste from 'ActionButtonTemplate.xml' |
| 17:07.25 | nevcairiel | If your cooldown is named <button>Cooldown it should work without the name hinting |
| 17:07.30 | Lopeppeppy | Olison, there are a lot of chat filter mods that you can add your own keys to... have you pawed the chat addons sections of sites yet? |
| 17:07.35 | nevcairiel | $parentCooldown in XML |
| 17:07.57 | kneeki | nevcairiel: It is named so |
| 17:08.12 | kneeki | 'ClassButton1Cooldown' is an example |
| 17:09.20 | nevcairiel | Do you get longer cooldowns on the bars? |
| 17:09.26 | nevcairiel | non-GCD? |
| 17:09.37 | kneeki | Well, the cooldowns work. But the 'flashing' does not |
| 17:10.02 | kneeki | like, if I cast 'Fel Domiantion' the 15 min cooldown numbers appear. But the global cooldown circle thing does not |
| 17:10.11 | nevcairiel | Hm |
| 17:10.17 | nevcairiel | sounds like a framelevel issue |
| 17:10.25 | nevcairiel | tried a different BF skin? |
| 17:10.47 | kneeki | Yeah, same results on all skins |
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| 17:12.41 | nevcairiel | I use the ActionButtonTemplate as well, and i never noticed issues |
| 17:13.22 | kneeki | http://www.wowi.pastey.net/109536 is the XML code |
| 17:13.31 | kneeki | to create the button |
| 17:14.01 | kneeki | Well, buttons |
| 17:15.36 | kneeki | and incase it helps, here is the Lua I use to create and assign all the attributes to the buttons. http://www.wowi.pastey.net/109537 |
| 17:17.42 | alestane | WTF? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443530582&sid=1 (last response) |
| 17:18.04 | Olison | Lopeppeppy: I will look into that, thanks for now |
| 17:18.10 | nevcairiel | alestane: what a moron |
| 17:18.28 | Olison | Lopeppeppy: Do you have an example for such a filter-enabled mod? |
| 17:18.31 | Lopeppeppy | Too lazy, just edited what someone else had typed. |
| 17:18.35 | Lopeppeppy | Olison, give me a few.... |
| 17:18.50 | Wimpsy` | alestane: lol |
| 17:19.47 | Lunessa | alestane: /facepalm never underestimate the resilience of stupid. |
| 17:20.16 | alestane | I already cropped out the snotty comment about having a correction that *worked*. |
| 17:20.56 | Lunessa | Mod=2 That totally is valid, right? /wrists |
| 17:21.19 | nevcairiel | absolutely |
| 17:21.39 | nevcairiel | ...not |
| 17:21.51 | foxlit | lua> return not false or 5; |
| 17:21.51 | lua_bot | foxlit: true |
| 17:22.08 | Lopeppeppy | Okay... I'm thinking of those chat mods for not hearing anyone below level 1, I can't seem to find any... rawr. |
| 17:22.30 | nevcairiel | below lvl 1? |
| 17:22.41 | Lopeppeppy | rawr, nevcariel. :) |
| 17:23.10 | alestane | Not only is [Mod=shift] not valid, neither is [Mod:shift]. |
| 17:23.28 | alestane | http://www.maliki.com/strip.php?strip=227 I understand just enough French that this makes me want to learn more. |
| 17:23.29 | nevcairiel | that thing is cast sensitive? |
| 17:23.37 | nevcairiel | *case |
| 17:23.39 | Lopeppeppy | Olison, here's one. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12156-BangAntiSpam2.html. I just started going through the Chat section at WoW interface. |
| 17:24.03 | nevcairiel | oh no, its a Bang addon |
| 17:24.50 | Lopeppeppy | It's an example! Now Olison is on his own for further searching. |
| 17:25.12 | alestane | nevcairiel: The only things that can be case-insensitve in [conditionals] are group member names (and maybe other unit tokens) and spell or pet names as provided to things like [channeling]. |
| 17:25.37 | nevcairiel | I never really tried, all is lowercase =) |
| 17:26.09 | Olison | Thanks Lopeppeppy :) |
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| 17:35.29 | Lunessa | You gave a fish? |
| 17:35.49 | Lopeppeppy | I did. But if it's not a good fish, he's gotta go get more hisownself. |
| 17:36.18 | WOWFREAK | hello everyone im knew on irc chatting |
| 17:36.49 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, WOWFREAK. |
| 17:37.14 | WOWFREAK | do you play world of warcraft in alliance or hord |
| 17:37.40 | Lopeppeppy | I'd say it's pretty evenly split across the channel, on average. I personally am alliance. |
| 17:37.40 | Lunessa | The correct answer is "Yes." |
| 17:38.11 | WOWFREAK | who all create addons for guilds |
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| 17:39.49 | Wimpsy` | Hello WOWFREAK |
| 17:39.57 | Anaralx2 | WOWFREAK: Many of the people in this channel write the addons that the entire wow community uses |
| 17:40.34 | Wimpsy` | wow HDImage is slow |
| 17:40.37 | Anaralx2 | So again the answer to your question is, 'yes'. |
| 17:41.17 | WOWFREAK | where can i go and learn about writing addons for wow i am new to computer programming and i want more info |
| 17:41.27 | Wimpsy` | wowwiki.com, here, wowprogramming.com |
| 17:41.27 | Lopeppeppy | ~wowprogramming |
| 17:41.28 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons ~ http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob ~ a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 17:41.28 | Lunessa | ~wowprograming |
| 17:41.30 | Lopeppeppy | ~pil |
| 17:41.31 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 17:42.04 | Lopeppeppy | There's also a list of resources in a sticky on the UI/Macros forum. We'll answer questions in here if you've done the basic reading and are stuck, but it's not a "teaching" channel. |
| 17:42.17 | Wimpsy` | purl is awesome |
| 17:42.37 | Lopeppeppy | Purl is worth her weight in cookies. |
| 17:42.41 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack |
| 17:42.41 | purl | Lopeppeppy: :) |
| 17:42.43 | Wimpsy` | Aye. |
| 17:42.47 | Wimpsy` | hehe |
| 17:42.58 | WOWFREAK | :| |
| 17:43.02 | Lunessa | I has a donut. |
| 17:43.04 | WOWFREAK | :) |
| 17:43.09 | WOWFREAK | :P |
| 17:43.22 | Wimpsy` | Who wrote purl? |
| 17:43.24 | Lopeppeppy | *gasp* Lunessa... give me donii. OMG, I'd love you forever. |
| 17:44.06 | alestane | http://www.maliki.com/strip.php?strip=7 The scary thing is I can almost understand this. |
| 17:44.39 | Lunessa | it's in French. Eww. |
| 17:44.49 | Lopeppeppy | I can mostly understand it, alestane. |
| 17:45.10 | alestane | I think it's something like, "Sink! Today ends your reign of terror! Your *something* of long standing!" |
| 17:45.16 | alestane | "Say wha?" |
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| 17:45.42 | Lopeppeppy | OMG, the germs win! For now. |
| 17:45.55 | alestane | "The germs and insects have requested a supension...they're just about to invent the wheel. Truce for now." |
| 17:46.28 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds like a typical bachelor pad to me. |
| 17:48.12 | alestane | The word "remugles" defeats me, however. |
| 17:50.04 | Lopeppeppy | Could be slang. |
| 17:50.51 | Lopeppeppy | comes out "stale smells" to my translator. |
| 17:51.00 | durcyn | google-fu indicates "mustiness" |
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| 17:53.49 | alestane | So, "Dishes! Today brings an end to your reign of terror! Your dirtyness has held sway for too long now!" |
| 17:55.49 | Lopeppeppy | This is why I forked over the $10 extra a month for my own dishwasher, and washer/dryer hookup |
| 17:57.42 | alestane | Heh, "Not to mention the advantages of a forcefield on the subway." |
| 17:58.48 | Lopeppeppy | I need one of those. |
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| 18:06.02 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Shirik. |
| 18:06.13 | Shirik | Morning, but not good, yes |
| 18:06.29 | Wimpsy` | Hello Shirik |
| 18:06.33 | Lopeppeppy | Uh oh, what went wrong? |
| 18:06.43 | Shirik | I want to go back to sleep is what's wrong |
| 18:06.57 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. *hug* I can't help you with that, if you decided to get out of bed. |
| 18:07.01 | Cide- | me too |
| 18:07.06 | Cide- | and it's 7pm here and I just woke up |
| 18:07.17 | Lopeppeppy | Cide is a silly bear. |
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| 18:07.55 | Shirik | not really an option Lunessa |
| 18:08.07 | Shirik | I have to work with my team today |
| 18:08.10 | Shirik | and they meet in an hour |
| 18:08.22 | Shirik | Not to mention I was supposed to drive to Atlanta today |
| 18:08.24 | Shirik | but I won't |
| 18:08.30 | Lunessa | Shirik: If someone shot you with tranqs you wouldn't have much choice, but I understand what you mean. |
| 18:08.36 | Lopeppeppy | Not if you're short on sleep, Shirik. |
| 18:08.43 | Lopeppeppy | My rule is I never drive more than I've slept. |
| 18:09.00 | Lopeppeppy | 3 hours of sleep? I can't drive more than 3 hours. Prefer to keep it to half of what I've slept, 1.5 hours. |
| 18:09.30 | Hirsute-Home | Hrmmm. I *have* looked in the PiL, and I'm not finding it. It's possible I'm stupid, but I'll ask anyway: Is there a Lua equivalent for php's includes? (I'm looking for a way to run one lua script, stored in foo.lua from a script stored in bar.lua, for example) |
| 18:09.56 | Cide- | require() |
| 18:10.00 | Cide- | but it's not available in wow |
| 18:10.39 | Hirsute-Home | Cide-: Thanks! This is actually for a non-wow lua program, so that won't be an obstacle. |
| 18:10.53 | Hirsute-Home | (A parser for a WoW-produced SV file) |
| 18:11.26 | Shirik | Hirsute-Home: You may want to look into module(), then |
| 18:11.33 | Shirik | depending on what you're trying to do |
| 18:11.58 | Hirsute-Home | Shirik: Just load the saved tables from the SV file into memory so they're accessible to my parser |
| 18:12.13 | Shirik | ok then you want require() :P |
| 18:12.40 | Shirik | wait |
| 18:12.42 | Shirik | hang on |
| 18:12.43 | Shirik | no you don't |
| 18:12.45 | Hirsute-Home | Okay |
| 18:12.50 | Shirik | require() is the same as module() |
| 18:13.01 | Shirik | You want loadfile() |
| 18:13.20 | Hirsute-Home | Even better, looking that one up now. |
| 18:13.40 | Shirik | Just remember this Hirsute-Home |
| 18:13.52 | Hirsute-Home | So much easier just to do that than to parse those files and convert the Lua format to, say, a perl hash. |
| 18:13.52 | Shirik | Each file becomes its own function |
| 18:14.01 | Shirik | so loadfile() compiles it and returns a function |
| 18:14.07 | Shirik | you'll want to then execute that function |
| 18:14.13 | Shirik | that essentially runs the file |
| 18:14.18 | Hirsute-Home | *nod* |
| 18:14.22 | Shirik | You'll probably want to return the table from the file |
| 18:14.36 | Hirsute-Home | Exactly what I'm looking for. |
| 18:14.38 | Shirik | Typically a common way to do that is |
| 18:14.46 | Shirik | assert(loadfile(file))() |
| 18:15.02 | Shirik | local t = assert(loadfile(file))() |
| 18:15.19 | Hirsute-Home | That'll put the returned table in t, then? |
| 18:15.23 | Shirik | yup |
| 18:15.29 | alestane | I find something very endearing about the phrase "rituel du couchage". |
| 18:16.14 | Hirsute-Home | Okay, and if there are multple tables in the SV file, would I do t1,t2,t3 = assert(loadfile(file))()? Or would they just be loaded as t["table1"], etc? |
| 18:17.07 | Shirik | alestane: Assuming that's french, de couchage or du couché |
| 18:17.09 | Shirik | :) |
| 18:17.44 | Shirik | depends on how you return it Hirsute-Home |
| 18:17.45 | alestane | It's French, and "du coushage" is a direct quote. |
| 18:17.53 | alestane | "du couchage" rather. |
| 18:17.59 | Shirik | if it's a quote then it seems wrong |
| 18:18.17 | alestane | http://www.maliki.com/strip.php?strip=23 |
| 18:18.45 | Shirik | hm, maybe some slangish thing |
| 18:19.02 | Shirik | where's the wobin |
| 18:20.00 | Shirik | Hirsute-Home: Just think of the entire file as having function() ... end wrapped around it |
| 18:20.05 | Shirik | so whatever you return is what you get |
| 18:20.16 | Shirik | you can't access the locals in it |
| 18:20.23 | Lopeppeppy | My translator isn't having an issue with it... http://translation2.paralink.com/ |
| 18:20.24 | Shirik | Globals will be shared, obviously |
| 18:20.31 | Shirik | Oh it wouldn't have an issue with it Lopeppeppy |
| 18:20.34 | Shirik | it's certainly readable |
| 18:20.43 | Shirik | they "mean" the same thing |
| 18:20.47 | Shirik | It's like saying "I play good" though |
| 18:21.00 | Shirik | At least, based off my limited french classes |
| 18:21.23 | Hirsute-Home | Shirik: Okay, if I have table1, table2, and table3 (all globals) in foo.lua, and in bar.lua I have local t = assert(loadfile(file))(); Will I access table1 via t["table1"]? (sorry to be slow here) |
| 18:21.34 | Shirik | if they're globals then they're globals |
| 18:21.36 | Shirik | just access them by name |
| 18:21.44 | Shirik | the global environment is shared between the files |
| 18:21.45 | Hirsute-Home | Ah, even easier. |
| 18:22.16 | Lopeppeppy | There's tons of slang in this comic |
| 18:22.34 | Hirsute-Home | Thanks for the help. |
| 18:22.37 | Shirik | np |
| 18:23.03 | Hirsute-Home | Now the question I need to figure out: Is it possible to do this all via a web page.... |
| 18:23.35 | Hirsute-Home | (ie, are there Lua modules for apache like there are PHP or perl/cgi modules) |
| 18:23.50 | Shirik | there's Kepler |
| 18:24.11 | Shirik | http://www.keplerproject.org/ |
| 18:24.20 | alestane | One things worth remembering is that native speakers of any language make a certain number of mistakes in their daily utterances...just like not every sentence you or I produce is a complete and correct English sentence. Accounting for that is a perennial challenge of writers and translators, who are naturally very sensitive to such errors and hate to leave them uncorrected. |
| 18:24.23 | Shirik | Is what wowprogramming.com works on, iirc |
| 18:24.46 | Hirsute-Home | Checking it out now. Thanks. |
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| 18:27.54 | alestane | This one may possibly be about toads exploding in Hamburg, Germany. I really need to brush up my French. |
| 18:27.57 | alestane | http://www.maliki.com/strip.php?strip=34 |
| 18:31.00 | Lunessa | "I love French. It's like wiping my ass with silk." |
| 18:31.09 | selckin | cursin in |
| 18:31.10 | Shirik | that is a really cute comic |
| 18:31.14 | Shirik | I need to go take a shower now |
| 18:31.15 | Shirik | byes |
| 18:31.56 | |Jelly| | bai |
| 18:32.00 | |Jelly| | oh and hai |
| 18:34.52 | Shirik | ns release Shirik|AFK |
| 18:37.29 | kneeki | Any tips? =( http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=119119&postcount=10 |
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| 18:41.25 | Tekkub | http://twitter.com/defunkt/statuses/1284519966 |
| 18:41.34 | Tekkub | WOWINSIDER I'M LOOKING AT YOU |
| 18:41.50 | mikma | kneeki: you need to SetNormalTexture or so to the same texture the round-shit uses |
| 18:42.48 | Lopeppeppy | Tekkub, do you need some more Nyquil? |
| 18:42.56 | kneeki | mikma: I need to do that in my XML? or in ButtonFacade |
| 18:42.58 | Tekkub | Lopeppeppy, sec |
| 18:43.28 | Tekkub | Lopeppeppy, http://gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20090216 |
| 18:43.30 | Tekkub | our house |
| 18:44.03 | mikma | kneeki: so you want them to be round, right= |
| 18:45.54 | kneeki | mikma: Well, I want them to be whatever texture the player chooses. The screenshot was an example of how the other textures don't work properly |
| 18:47.49 | kneeki | mikma: Where do I go about using SetNormalTexture ? |
| 18:47.56 | mikma | kneeki: most likely the problem is your buttons arens listed in the buttonfacade so it doesn't make them round. you need to inspect how can you add them listed :P |
| 18:49.00 | kneeki | mikma: Add them listed? The buttons are all being skinned with ButtonFacade, even when I switch the theme. |
| 18:49.18 | kneeki | They just don't look right. I assume it has something to do with my XML code |
| 18:50.03 | mikma | can't help you with the xml part |
| 18:50.12 | mikma | i always create buttons with lua instead :P |
| 18:50.22 | kneeki | mikma: I do as well =) |
| 18:50.27 | mikma | local button = CreateFrame("Button", name, Portalframe, "SecureActionButtonTemplate, ActionButtonTemplate") |
| 18:50.43 | kneeki | I created a button template with XML, then created the buttons, and assigned all the values using Lua |
| 18:52.27 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Now she REALLY has gone too long without cleaning her sink: maliki.com/strip.php?strip=67 |
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| 18:54.22 | kneeki | Hmm... |
| 18:54.31 | kneeki | I am using: ClassButton[frame] = CreateFrame("Button", "ClassButton"..frame, UIParent, "SecureActionButtonTemplate, ActionButtonTemplate") |
| 18:54.39 | kneeki | and I have the exact same results |
| 18:55.17 | kneeki | I bet it's my :CreateTexture() code that's fubaring it... |
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| 19:04.09 | kneeki | Any ideas why: /script ClassButton1:SetNormalTexture("Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Shadow_SummonImp") does absolutly nothing? No error, and no texture is being placed |
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| 19:09.09 | Lunessa | alestane: I couldn't help myself: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443530582&sid=1 |
| 19:09.49 | Lunessa | I has. |
| 19:11.16 | Lopeppeppy | Awww. Thank you. |
| 19:11.57 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/03/05/funny-pictures-about-crooked-picture/ |
| 19:19.14 | Lunessa | Seeing as the other picutres are also crooked, I'd say his OCD is making them crooked. |
| 19:20.06 | Lopeppeppy | Silly kitteh |
| 19:22.41 | alestane | Gotta go out for a while, talk to y'all later. |
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| 19:41.39 | Hirsute | For my next stupid question, if I have a function foo(table1,table2), and I call it with foo(bar,baz), is there a way, within the function, for me to get the names of the tables I passed into the functino (bar and baz)? |
| 19:42.07 | foxlit | no |
| 19:42.28 | foxlit | The slightly longer answer is "yes, if..." but it's not very appealing. |
| 19:43.08 | Hirsute | So, if I wanted access to those names, I'd just have to do something like function foo(table1, table2, tablename1, tablename2), and call it with foo(bar,baz,"bar","baz")? |
| 19:43.20 | foxlit | yes |
| 19:43.27 | Hirsute | Okay, thanks! |
| 19:44.55 | Legorol | alternatively, you can reexamine your algorithm, and see if the function can be written without knowing the names of those tables |
| 19:45.09 | Hirsute | Legorol: It's just for debugging output, actually. |
| 19:45.34 | Hirsute | And more a matter of tidiness in log files, so it isn't necessary for the functioning of the function at all. |
| 19:46.47 | Hirsute | As long as everything is working fine, I couldn't care less what the name of the table is, and I don't really need to have it available within the function when things *aren't* working fine, it's just so that when I do my debug printing I can print the table path correctly. |
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| 19:53.13 | foxlit | "In light of the new animation system, is there any chance we can finally get a method to anchor animating damage text (and associated damage icons) to world objects?" << Mikk is brilliant |
| 19:54.44 | End | hm |
| 19:54.50 | End | that'd be really neat |
| 19:54.56 | Mikk | i know i am, but that's not me |
| 19:55.15 | foxlit | There's a Mik franchise, then? :( |
| 19:55.18 | End | too many miks |
| 19:55.20 | Mikk | Mikord maybe |
| 19:55.27 | Mikk | As in MSBT-guy |
| 19:55.29 | End | mikord, mikk, mikma, where does it end! |
| 19:55.49 | foxlit | For some reason, I thought you were the MSBT guy |
| 19:55.52 | End | well, I guess that's only 3 |
| 19:56.09 | Mikk | Yeah, he nicked "Mikk" on curse while I had it ... most everywhere else |
| 19:56.13 | Mikk | We sorted that now |
| 19:56.30 | Legorol | How do I enter Wintergrasp if I only have a land mount? |
| 19:56.33 | End | oh, that would explain my original confusion |
| 19:56.42 | Legorol | Getting summoned, taking portal from Dala etc. don't count |
| 19:56.54 | End | Legorol: you don't |
| 19:57.03 | Mikk | You can't run in through the gates? |
| 19:57.08 | Mikk | (I never tried myself) |
| 19:57.10 | Legorol | but there is an FP in there, so can't you get in? |
| 19:57.13 | ccox | do the quest that loans you a flying mount, fly up before it dismounts you |
| 19:57.17 | Shirik|AFK | I'm trying to use find to list out a bunch of files, but I need to use a regular expression to show which files NOT to output. So I would use the -regex option but that's for which file which SHOULD be included. Anyone have recommendations on how to invert that match? |
| 19:57.17 | Aqua | the flight path isn't usable |
| 19:57.20 | End | FP is outgoing only |
| 19:57.25 | Legorol | ah |
| 19:57.28 | Aqua | yea, its outgoing only |
| 19:57.29 | durcyn | you can jump down from parts of wintergrasp |
| 19:57.30 | Mikk | no, wait, those gates are to icecrown |
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| 19:57.37 | durcyn | er icecrown |
| 19:57.40 | Shirik|AFK | I don't see anything in the man page about it |
| 19:57.53 | End | hm |
| 19:57.56 | foxlit | Shirik|AFK: regex->e-nfa->dfa->invert dfa ->nfa->regex |
| 19:58.02 | Shirik|AFK | >< |
| 19:58.09 | Mikk | Shirik|AFK: grep -v blah -v bleh -v bluh |
| 19:58.13 | Mikk | or? |
| 19:58.15 | Shirik|AFK | All I want to do is avoid the .svn folders! It shouldn't be that hard! |
| 19:58.28 | Mikk | oh wait |
| 19:58.33 | Mikk | find, not grep |
| 19:58.35 | End | there's random walls in icecrown that might prevent you, but I'm not sure where those walls are |
| 19:59.04 | Cairenn | lol, did you guys see this? http://www.steelseries.com/us/products/partners |
| 19:59.05 | End | can't you do find ! -name .svn? |
| 19:59.18 | Mikk | not with that syntax certainly |
| 19:59.21 | foxlit | Cairenn: yes. It's realtively old |
| 19:59.41 | foxlit | The glow effect is cool, but I hear the general quality is crap. |
| 19:59.42 | Cairenn | how so relatively old, since Blizz just posted about it today? :p |
| 19:59.52 | Lopeppeppy | The drivers for it are crap still, Cairenn, it doesn't work most of the time. |
| 19:59.56 | foxlit | It's been mentioned in, oh, october? |
| 20:00.06 | Cairenn | huh |
| 20:00.08 | End | I've seen that before |
| 20:00.08 | Lopeppeppy | They might have waited to post it until the second gen drivers were out, I hear these are somewhat better. |
| 20:00.14 | Elly | Shirik|AFK: find -not -name '*.svn*' perhaps? |
| 20:00.26 | foxlit | Cairenn: http://gizmodo.com/5061632/steelseries-world-of-warcraft-mouse-destroys-orcs-your-last-shreds-of-dignity-with-15-buttons |
| 20:00.33 | foxlit | "Fri Oct 10 2008" |
| 20:00.38 | Cairenn | ah |
| 20:00.42 | Shirik|AFK | that was... a lot easier than I expected Elly |
| 20:00.46 | Shirik|AFK | that's not in the man page :/ |
| 20:00.56 | End | what, my example isn't good enough? |
| 20:01.01 | Cairenn | well, I just saw it on Blizz site today for first time /shrug |
| 20:01.03 | Shirik|AFK | next question |
| 20:01.04 | Cairenn | :) |
| 20:01.11 | Shirik|AFK | $ svn proplist `find -not -regex .*\\.svn.*` |
| 20:01.11 | Shirik|AFK | svn: invalid option: |
| 20:01.13 | Shirik|AFK | why :( |
| 20:01.19 | Lopeppeppy | Da orc boys who do the posting are behind! Zug zug, more work! |
| 20:01.23 | Elly | Shirik|AFK: it's totally in the man page :P |
| 20:01.28 | Shirik|AFK | I didn't see it |
| 20:01.33 | Elly | -name? |
| 20:01.37 | Shirik | -name is |
| 20:01.40 | Shirik | -not isn't |
| 20:01.42 | Elly | O_o |
| 20:01.47 | Elly | it's certainly in my man page |
| 20:01.49 | End | it is |
| 20:01.51 | Mikk | it is |
| 20:01.52 | Elly | under 'OPERATORS' |
| 20:01.54 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:01.57 | Shirik | it's not in the same section |
| 20:01.58 | Elly | use / to search for it; you should see it... |
| 20:01.59 | Shirik | blah |
| 20:02.00 | End | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.00 | End | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.07 | End | See, my example was POSIX compliant |
| 20:02.15 | Mikk | arf |
| 20:02.43 | Mikk | and yeah |
| 20:02.49 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.51 | Mikk | ^ works |
| 20:02.53 | End | anyhow, do an echo on your find and see what it is doing |
| 20:03.02 | Shirik | it looks fine |
| 20:03.06 | End | hm |
| 20:03.12 | Shirik | maybe I need to use xargs |
| 20:03.13 | Shirik | I dunno |
| 20:03.14 | End | I wonder how backticks handle newlines exactly |
| 20:03.15 | Mikk | you're not putting wildcards in there screwing things up? |
| 20:04.06 | Mikk | (i.e. with/without using single quotes) |
| 20:04.15 | Shirik | it outputs fine |
| 20:04.18 | Shirik | so it seems like it's right |
| 20:04.27 | End | weird |
| 20:04.34 | End | your command works fine for me |
| 20:04.38 | Mikk | well, wildcards won't expand if there's no matching files in the current directory |
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| 20:04.48 | Mikk | but if you run it in another directory where it DOES match, things happen |
| 20:04.59 | Mikk | (but this is all irrelevant if you dont' even have wildcards in the command) |
| 20:05.15 | End | he doesn't. the * are escaped for his regex |
| 20:05.22 | End | wait |
| 20:05.27 | End | those aren't escaped |
| 20:05.51 | End | or does `` cause matching to not occur? |
| 20:06.12 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.15 | Mikk | or `` ? |
| 20:06.17 | End | `` |
| 20:06.21 | Jamash | `''` |
| 20:06.44 | Jamash | if you don't want matching |
| 20:06.46 | Mikk | okay i'm going to stop guessing blindly what's going on if you're doing inline execution |
| 20:07.00 | Jamash | backticks are a pain |
| 20:07.10 | End | yeah |
| 20:07.19 | End | Shirik: just try xargs I guess |
| 20:07.29 | Jamash | I remember trying to get something with embedded spaces to work with backticks and it was awful |
| 20:07.38 | selckin | Shirik: svn proplist $(find ! -path '*/.svn*') |
| 20:07.48 | Jamash | It ended up being easier to write a perl one-liner |
| 20:07.53 | End | isn't $() exactly the same as backticks? |
| 20:08.02 | End | but not POSIX compliant? |
| 20:08.14 | selckin | its better (tm) |
| 20:08.23 | End | how is it better? |
| 20:08.29 | selckin | $(foo $(bar)) hey it works |
| 20:08.51 | End | yeah, but if he can't get backticks to work, that won't work either |
| 20:08.55 | End | since he isn't nesting them |
| 20:09.17 | Shirik | I never seen $() before |
| 20:09.21 | Jamash | me either |
| 20:09.24 | End | it's a bashism |
| 20:09.25 | Lunessa | LOL - "Yes, all everyone else in the world ever does is conspire together to ruin your experience while playing World of Warcraft. I just got off my shift staking out your house so that we can coordinate when everyone has log on in. Just fyi, I hate you for owning a snuggie. " |
| 20:09.31 | Shirik | but yeah, same problem |
| 20:09.41 | selckin | what's the error? |
| 20:09.55 | Tekkub | I use $() all the time in jQuery and prototype ^^ |
| 20:09.57 | Shirik | (15:01:07) (@Shirik|AFK) $ svn proplist `find -not -regex .*\\.svn.*` |
| 20:09.58 | Shirik | (15:01:07) (@Shirik|AFK) svn: invalid option: |
| 20:10.04 | End | Tekkub: that's not shell scripting! |
| 20:10.11 | Tekkub | or is it! |
| 20:10.13 | End | that's uh, javascripting :P |
| 20:10.14 | Tekkub | wait, no it's not |
| 20:10.31 | Jamash | \\? |
| 20:10.35 | Jamash | are you on windows? |
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| 20:11.11 | Jamash | oh, I see, nvm |
| 20:11.15 | selckin | Shirik: file's with - in the names? |
| 20:11.19 | selckin | Shirik: find ! -path '*/.svn*' -print0 | xargs -0 svn proplist -- |
| 20:12.19 | End | probably safer to assume there could be |
| 20:12.21 | End | :P |
| 20:12.31 | selckin | where's your posix now |
| 20:12.34 | Tekkub | I must be a bad pally |
| 20:12.41 | Tekkub | I always seal/judge wisdom |
| 20:12.46 | Tekkub | and I neve run out of mana |
| 20:13.02 | kneeki | Can I use :SetNormalTexture() on a button to set the texture of the button to a spell icon? |
| 20:13.10 | selckin | Tekkub: tanking? |
| 20:13.10 | mikma | end: PONG YOU TOO, tigga! |
| 20:13.21 | Tekkub | I ran AK with a boomkin and an 80 DK and was healing at 100% mana most the time |
| 20:13.30 | Tekkub | dps/healing as ret |
| 20:13.44 | selckin | gear appropriate then, or you pull 2-3 packs like a real tank. |
| 20:13.45 | Tekkub | I'd go holy if I could dualspec :) |
| 20:13.49 | End | mikma: NO U |
| 20:13.54 | End | besides |
| 20:14.01 | End | you don't have to deal with pings like I do |
| 20:14.10 | Jamash | kneeki: try it and find out |
| 20:14.17 | End | well, I deal with them by ignoring them |
| 20:14.27 | mikma | end: yes i do, the channel gets highlighted if someone says my name :( |
| 20:14.30 | kneeki | Jamash: I did, and it's not setting any texture, nor is it giving an error |
| 20:14.34 | Lopeppeppy | I'm holy, I pull 2-4 at a time, my GBoW keeps me going through about 8 pulls before I drink. |
| 20:14.35 | Jamash | oh, hm |
| 20:14.48 | End | mikma: people ping me with their code |
| 20:15.05 | mikma | end: [Act: 6] <- omagod, where the 6 is purple |
| 20:15.23 | mikma | end: well you need smart highlight: 'end:' |
| 20:15.29 | mikma | do it like haste does |
| 20:15.35 | mikma | he has all sort of haste-rating -ignores |
| 20:16.00 | End | hey, QQ |
| 20:16.04 | End | I used your name in the middle |
| 20:16.09 | End | maybe you should get a smart highlight! |
| 20:16.13 | End | neener! |
| 20:17.05 | mikma | end: my highlight IS smart, it catched my name in the middle :D |
| 20:17.13 | End | lol |
| 20:17.17 | Shirik | selckin: This is close |
| 20:17.18 | Shirik | find -not -path "*/.svn" | xargs -L 1 svn proplist |
| 20:17.25 | Shirik | But um, it's still going into .svn folders :/ |
| 20:17.30 | Jamash | artificial stupidity beats artificial intelligence |
| 20:18.18 | durcyn | just be lazy and find | grep -v "\.svn" alraedy, gosh |
| 20:18.22 | selckin | Shirik: "find ! -path '*/.svn*' -print0 | xargs -0 svn proplist --" works in my test (files can have spaces and -) |
| 20:18.31 | selckin | Shirik: you need the last * at least |
| 20:18.38 | Shirik | oh that's what I was missing |
| 20:18.56 | Shirik | hm no |
| 20:19.12 | Shirik | svn: Can't open file 'Module/.svn/entries': No such file or directory |
| 20:19.14 | Shirik | for example |
| 20:19.36 | selckin | :\ |
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| 20:20.00 | selckin | find and i don't get along, but the rest should be correct, (and the -path works when i test it on linux) |
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| 20:21.40 | Shirik | find | grep -v "\.svn" | xargs -L 1 svn proplist |
| 20:21.42 | Shirik | does the exact same thing |
| 20:21.59 | selckin | that will break if files have spaces tho |
| 20:22.12 | Shirik | If they have spaces I need to kill someone anyway |
| 20:22.18 | Shirik | I'm more concerned about the descending into .svn right now |
| 20:23.01 | Jamash | a lot of things break when files have spaces |
| 20:23.35 | Jamash | didn't mac os x have a bug where uninstalling a certain package would uninstall your entire hard drive if your drive name had a space in it? |
| 20:24.03 | Shirik | actually, paths have spaces in them, you're right |
| 20:24.36 | selckin | Shirik: find . -type d '(' -name .svn -and -prune ')' -or -print |
| 20:24.51 | selckin | Shirik: () quoting is for my shell :\ |
| 20:25.18 | Adys | Ok |
| 20:25.21 | Adys | Math problem for all |
| 20:25.28 | Adys | Find the next one in the list |
| 20:25.51 | Adys | 4979, 5158, 5341, 5527, 5715, 5914, 6116, 6326 |
| 20:27.06 | Shirik | 65 |
| 20:27.07 | Shirik | something |
| 20:27.31 | foxlit | lua> t = {4979, 5158, 5341, 5527, 5715, 5914, 6116, 6326}; for i=2,#t do print(t[i]-t[i-1]); end |
| 20:27.32 | lua_bot | foxlit: 179, 183, 186, 188, 199, 202, 210 |
| 20:27.50 | selckin | Shirik: find . -name .svn -prune -o -type f -print0 | xargs -L 1 -0 svn proplist -- |
| 20:28.03 | selckin | Shirik: do i get a cookie? |
| 20:28.13 | Shirik | what is -type f |
| 20:28.19 | selckin | files only |
| 20:28.21 | Shirik | if that reports only files, that's unacceptable |
| 20:28.27 | Shirik | I need properties on directoreis too |
| 20:28.32 | selckin | Shirik: find . -name .svn -prune -o -print0 | xargs -L 1 -0 svn proplist -- |
| 20:29.29 | Shirik | what does -0 do, because it always breaks things |
| 20:29.35 | Shirik | when I do -0 it just dumps out what find output |
| 20:29.53 | selckin | -0 makes it NULL terminated instead of space |
| 20:30.02 | selckin | so it splits on NULL instead of spaces i mean |
| 20:30.04 | Shirik | ah, and -print0 adds the null character? |
| 20:30.05 | Adys | also a tip, I think even and uneven numbers got a different formula |
| 20:30.08 | selckin | Shirik: yes |
| 20:30.09 | Adys | but Im not sure |
| 20:30.10 | Shirik | ok |
| 20:30.19 | Adys | s/numbers/indexes/ |
| 20:30.45 | Tekkub | I seriously need something that qualntifies haste for me |
| 20:30.46 | selckin | Shirik: last -- should make it ignore any furst - as being parsed as options |
| 20:30.51 | selckin | Shirik: so files can start with - |
| 20:30.51 | Shirik | find . -name .svn -prune -o -print0 | xargs -L 1 -0 svn proplist -- |
| 20:30.54 | Shirik | is inverted ;) |
| 20:30.55 | Tekkub | I never know if it's worth taking over what I have |
| 20:31.02 | Shirik | but it seems to be doing exactly the opposite of what I want |
| 20:31.04 | Shirik | which is good |
| 20:31.37 | Tekkub | like now, ret pally, shoulders are about equal except this has 30 haste rate instead of 42 stam |
| 20:31.52 | selckin | Shirik: ttry the explicit grouping then find . '(' -name .svn -and -prune ')' -or -print0 |
| 20:32.23 | selckin | haste is quite bad for ret |
| 20:32.27 | Shirik | selkin wins |
| 20:32.31 | selckin | ~30% crit and +str all the way |
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| 20:33.13 | Shirik | aww, selckin almost wins |
| 20:33.34 | selckin | what's the problem? :) |
| 20:33.53 | Shirik | there was one tiny spot where it went into .svn directories again I think, unless I wasn't reading it properly (it goes by kinda fast) |
| 20:34.22 | selckin | just run the find and | grep --color svn |
| 20:34.24 | selckin | :\ |
| 20:34.34 | Shirik | I can ignore it :P |
| 20:34.36 | selckin | but if it goes into .svn you're find implentation is bugged imo |
| 20:35.36 | selckin | *your |
| 20:36.17 | foxlit | Hey, Adys. |
| 20:36.23 | Adys | yes foxy |
| 20:36.24 | foxlit | n(x) = (47/2520)*x^7-(413/720)*x^6+(5161/720)*x^5-(6739/144)*x^4+(123073/720)*x^3-(61943/180)*x^2+(73973/140)*x+4664 |
| 20:37.06 | selckin | sounds like homework |
| 20:37.08 | Adys | FoxFurry: that would make the next one which number? |
| 20:37.14 | Adys | wtf we got a FoxFurry in the chan |
| 20:37.17 | foxlit | lua> for x=1,8 do print((47/2520)*x^7-(413/720)*x^6+(5161/720)*x^5-(6739/144)*x^4+(123073/720)*x^3-(61943/180)*x^2+(73973/140)*x+4664); end |
| 20:37.17 | lua_bot | foxlit: 4979, 5158, 5341, 5527, 5715, 5914, 6116, 6326 |
| 20:37.29 | Hirsute | Okay. I have a function, foo(table1,table2). If I call it with foo(bar,baz) and baz doesn't yet exist, I don't get any errors until I try to add a key to it, like baz[field] = value. |
| 20:38.04 | Mikk | Of course not |
| 20:38.10 | Mikk | All that happens is you get passed a nil for table2 |
| 20:38.29 | Mikk | And no you can't create table2 inside the function |
| 20:38.30 | Hirsute | I tried adding nil checking into the function (if not table2 then table2 = {} end), but that creates table2, but it doesn't seem linked to baz. Is there a way to create the table I passed in, from within the function? |
| 20:38.35 | foxlit | lua> x=9; print((47/2520)*x^7-(413/720)*x^6+(5161/720)*x^5-(6739/144)*x^4+(123073/720)*x^3-(61943/180)*x^2+(73973/140)*x+4664); |
| 20:38.35 | lua_bot | foxlit: 6743 |
| 20:38.41 | Mikk | There is not |
| 20:38.41 | Hirsute | Mikk, thanks you beat me. |
| 20:38.48 | foxlit | Of course, if you ask a stupid question, you get a stupid answer :) |
| 20:39.07 | Hirsute | Can I do table1,table2 = foo(bar,baz), and return table1 and table2? |
| 20:39.11 | Mikk | yes |
| 20:39.14 | Hirsute | Okay. |
| 20:39.20 | Mikk | or well bar,baz=foo(bar,baz) |
| 20:39.23 | Mikk | obviously |
| 20:39.31 | Hirsute | Yes, thanks for the correction there. |
| 20:40.23 | Adys | foxlit: next two are 6542, 6761 |
| 20:42.13 | foxlit | Then clearly the answer is to increase the degree of the polynomial. |
| 20:42.44 | Jamash | perl -we 'my $s = `find . -print0`; my @s = split /\0/, $s; @s = grep {$_ !~ m/\/\.svn(\/|$)/}@s;system("echo", "svn", "--proplist", "--", @s)' |
| 20:43.02 | Jamash | oops, forgot to remove the echo |
| 20:43.44 | foxlit | General "find the next number in this sequence" questions are silly without context, as the sequence itself does not preclude other generating functions. |
| 20:44.38 | Adys | calculate it or dont |
| 20:44.42 | Adys | I dont have any more context |
| 20:44.45 | Jamash | find the next element in the sequence: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 |
| 20:45.12 | foxlit | Where did you get the original sequence from, then? |
| 20:45.18 | Adys | health values |
| 20:45.37 | Adys | more accurately BC health values |
| 20:47.30 | Adys | and |
| 20:47.32 | Adys | 6986 |
| 20:47.45 | selckin | so there is no relation? |
| 20:47.48 | Hirsute | One last (hopefully) stupid questions. If function1 gets called inside function2, does it have access to function2's local variables? |
| 20:47.52 | Jamash | why do you want to predict the next value? |
| 20:47.55 | Adys | there isa relation |
| 20:48.03 | Adys | I dont want to predict it |
| 20:48.33 | Adys | I want to find the formula that generates those numbers, I refuse to believe they're held in blizzard's DB |
| 20:48.53 | Jamash | bet you a dollar? |
| 20:49.01 | Adys | bet ya a dollah |
| 20:49.28 | Adys | theres also a health bump at 60 |
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| 20:50.01 | Adys | previous ones are 4142 and 3989 |
| 20:50.14 | durcyn | Hirsute: no, pass them as varargs |
| 20:50.29 | durcyn | or expand their scope |
| 20:50.44 | Hirsute | durcyn: Thanks! |
| 21:00.05 | Shirik | I love linker errors |
| 21:00.09 | Shirik | error LNK2005: ___@@_PchSym_@00@UfhvihUnkwvoyflmlUwvhpglkUxivzgvPtrhPwzgzUxivzgvPtrhPwzgzUivovzhvUhgwzucOlyq@ already defined in create_gis_data.obj |
| 21:00.16 | Shirik | That name is unnecessarily complex |
| 21:00.25 | selckin | Shirik: c++filt google it |
| 21:00.31 | Shirik | nah |
| 21:00.34 | Shirik | I'm not worried about that |
| 21:00.38 | Shirik | I'm just commenting on the name |
| 21:00.44 | Shirik | The issue is actually elsewhere |
| 21:00.49 | Shirik | warning C4727: PCH named c:\users\mpdelbuono\desktop\create_gis_data\create_gis_data\release\create_gis_data.pch with same timestamp found in c:\Users\mpdelbuono\Desktop\create_gis_data\create_gis_data\Release\stdafx.obj and c:\Users\mpdelbuono\Desktop\create_gis_data\create_gis_data\Release\create_gis_data.obj. Using first PCH. |
| 21:00.57 | Adys | if it were me I wouldnt comment on it, I'd comment it out |
| 21:01.11 | selckin | =) |
| 21:06.34 | zenzelezz | Shirik: that name is not unnecessarily complicated, it's proud of its heritage |
| 21:07.24 | Dagmar | It came from humble 8-bit upringings? |
| 21:08.31 | Lunessa | It was born poor byte code. |
| 21:08.58 | Jamash | C++ is anything but humble |
| 21:09.18 | selckin | useless converstation is useless /hide |
| 21:09.23 | Dagmar | It's aspirations can be scoped globally |
| 21:09.48 | Jamash | it knows it's not a real OOPL so it tries twice as hard |
| 21:10.57 | zenzelezz | watch your mouth there ;-p |
| 21:11.11 | Jamash | in other news, I ran out of parmesan so I put bacon salt on my fettucini alfredo |
| 21:11.17 | Jamash | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 21:11.36 | Lunessa | Don't make me hungry. You wouldn't like me when I'm hungry. |
| 21:11.52 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa! I got a new fridge from the repair gods! |
| 21:12.22 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: WEWT! The consumables are saved! |
| 21:12.45 | Lopeppeppy | Mostly. I only hope they took the less perishable condiments out of the old one before they hauled it away! |
| 21:14.23 | kneeki | Can someone give an example when button:SetNormalTexture() should be used? |
| 21:15.18 | mikma | kneeki: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Button/SetNormalTexture |
| 21:15.54 | kneeki | mikma: and 'texture' is a string value. pointing to a spell icon |
| 21:16.15 | kneeki | right? like "Interface\\Icons\\SpellName" |
| 21:18.42 | mikma | aye |
| 21:19.48 | foxlit | typically, no |
| 21:20.26 | foxlit | (you typically create separate textures for spell icons -- normal textures represent the button's normal state, not its contents) |
| 21:20.30 | kneeki | '/script ClassButton1:SetNormalTexture("\\Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Shadow_SummonImp")' does nothing, and no error is given |
| 21:20.46 | kneeki | foxlit: Oh? |
| 21:21.02 | kneeki | Right now, I'm making a new texture to assign the button contents |
| 21:21.13 | kneeki | But I think it's causing issues with button frame textures |
| 21:21.52 | kneeki | http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7563/wowscrnshot030509103115.jpg <- an example of what I mean |
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| 21:24.55 | mikma | kneeki: ClassButton1NormalTexture:SetNormalTexture("\\Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Shadow_SummonImp") |
| 21:24.58 | mikma | kneeki: try that |
| 21:25.24 | kneeki | Attempt to call method 'SetNormalTexture' nil value |
| 21:25.34 | Jamash | You just want SetTexture |
| 21:26.02 | Jamash | I think |
| 21:26.12 | kneeki | Jamash: That worked, but the texture is still going further than the border of the button |
| 21:26.40 | Jamash | sounds like a masking issue |
| 21:27.39 | kneeki | Hmm |
| 21:28.17 | kneeki | If I wanted to make a button that I can click and drag things into as I wish, is that very difficult. When compared to making a button with a static spell only type of thing |
| 21:29.12 | kd3 | crap. I'm stuck in grizzly hills |
| 21:29.12 | kd3 | sigh |
| 21:29.40 | Tekkub | no better place to be stuck |
| 21:30.06 | kd3 | not when I'm trying to fly to hf to do a quest... |
| 21:30.31 | Lopeppeppy | Why are you stuck? |
| 21:30.38 | kd3 | world server issues |
| 21:30.45 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew. /comfort |
| 21:30.46 | kd3 | northrend itself is up... grizzly hills, not so much |
| 21:30.56 | Jamash | he ran into a tree and the sap was sticky |
| 21:31.39 | Jamash | "I'm not in season!" |
| 21:31.52 | Lopeppeppy | Yes he is. |
| 21:32.00 | Lopeppeppy | It's mongoose season, and he is totally a mongoose |
| 21:32.06 | Jamash | O_O |
| 21:32.38 | Lunessa | kd3: Dude, maybe you'll be the start of a new quest line to get you out of the outhouse. We'll need to bring you 15 sheets of Frostweave... |
| 21:32.47 | kd3 | lmao |
| 21:33.07 | End | and your lost ledger |
| 21:33.09 | End | of UI diffs |
| 21:33.16 | Lopeppeppy | No. 8 sheets, because Frostweave is softer than silk! |
| 21:33.25 | Jamash | but colder |
| 21:33.25 | End | we have to hunt down people on your mailing list to recreate the ledger |
| 21:33.30 | Lunessa | But not as absorbent. |
| 21:33.31 | jnwhiteh | Hirsute: there is a mod_lua for Apache which works natively, but http://wowprogramming.com uses WSAPI |
| 21:33.36 | jnwhiteh | which is a bit different than Kepler |
| 21:33.39 | jnwhiteh | just to respond later P |
| 21:33.50 | Hirsute | jnwhiteh: Thanks! |
| 21:33.52 | Lopeppeppy | Jamash, I was referring to a Daffy Duck cartoon, by the way, with mongoose season |
| 21:33.53 | foxlit | "A group of Dutch people playing the Yu-Gi-Oh! Trading Card Game" << those crazy Dutch... they'll do anything. |
| 21:34.07 | Jamash | wabbit season! |
| 21:34.08 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I got the reference. |
| 21:34.28 | Lopeppeppy | I thought you would, Lunessa. |
| 21:34.32 | foxlit | (There's a picture, too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yu-Gi-Yo.jpg) |
| 21:34.43 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, they won't let me go home. They aren't done with the newsletter yet, I can't go home. |
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| 21:34.46 | Lunessa | I have something like 300 hours of cartoons on disc. |
| 21:35.13 | cogwheel | ~seen alestane |
| 21:35.15 | purl | alestane <n=nevin@c-76-24-240-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 2h 12m 34s ago, saying: 'Gotta go out for a while, talk to y'all later.'. |
| 21:35.15 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Tell them a) bring me chocolate, b) bring you money, c) to blow you. |
| 21:35.52 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I wish. At this rate I won't have much time to stop home before I'm due out for group dinner again. Grrrrr to this whole day! |
| 21:41.07 | Lopeppeppy | *huggle* Today is Stress Thursday, methinks. |
| 21:44.11 | kneeki | Before I try, is it possible to create more action buttons? Or can you only re-use the ones blizzard is not using. (like bar2 for example) |
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| 21:44.27 | Jamash | you can create your own, yes |
| 21:44.38 | Lunessa | You can create buttons. Bartender 4 and Macaroon do this. |
| 21:44.45 | kneeki | Oh? |
| 21:44.51 | kneeki | Thanks, I'll see how they do it =) |
| 21:45.10 | Lunessa | Yes. See the Introdcution to Secure State Drivers in the UI & Macros forum. |
| 21:46.01 | Lunessa | Bah - Secure handlers - Name changed. :) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11162847431&sid=1 |
| 21:46.21 | kneeki | lol thanks |
| 21:47.01 | cog|work | kneeki: several of the chapters in wow programming show you how to do that |
| 21:47.34 | kneeki | Nice! |
| 21:47.47 | cog|work | particularly 17 iirc |
| 21:47.47 | kneeki | I'll check out both =) |
| 21:47.56 | foxlit | "This file, or the contents thereof, are not harmful or offensive in any way." |
| 21:48.00 | cog|work | (which i may not RC ;) ) |
| 21:48.08 | foxlit | Offensive to whom, I wonder. |
| 21:48.09 | kneeki | Chapter 17 - Taking Action with Secure Templates |
| 21:48.11 | kneeki | =) |
| 21:48.50 | Lopeppeppy | I go home now. Bye! |
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| 21:48.55 | Lunessa | foxlit: Im not sure I could honestly include that in the headers of anything I've ever written. |
| 21:48.59 | cog|work | simplest is to use actionbarbuttontemplate |
| 21:49.18 | foxlit | Lunessa: you certify that you understand and agree with that when you update wowi mods :) |
| 21:49.47 | Lunessa | foxlit: Good thing I haven't released any non-macro code into the wild, no? |
| 21:50.33 | foxlit | No. I demand you release more non-macro code into the wild! |
| 21:51.00 | foxlit | quit holding it in captivity :) |
| 21:51.45 | Lunessa | foxlit: Gah! Can't I just kibitz and point out flaws or probable improvements to Opie? |
| 21:51.57 | foxlit | Got any? :) |
| 21:52.49 | kneeki | Hrm... |
| 21:53.14 | kneeki | I cannot view any of the contents of chapter17 |
| 21:53.28 | kneeki | http://wowprogramming.com/chapters/17 , do I have to login or something? |
| 21:53.30 | kneeki | -_- |
| 21:54.35 | Jamash | I think you have to buy the book |
| 21:54.40 | kneeki | lol oh |
| 21:56.07 | Lunessa | foxlit: No, not really. I'm not using it at the moment, though I really should again. |
| 21:56.50 | foxlit | I'll add your vote to "Implement 'use OPie, or this kitten gets it' feature" ticket. |
| 22:00.36 | Lunessa | foxlit: Good deal. "Every time you don't use OPie, Foxlit kills a kitten. Won't someone please think of the kittens?" |
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| 22:05.59 | Thunder_Child | i'm thinking of them....dieing |
| 22:06.45 | Tekkub | all I can say is, the blood's on his hands, not mine |
| 22:09.07 | Kraps | would a battery powered wheelchair interfere with the signal from a wireless digital mouse? |
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| 22:09.24 | Jamash | I doubt it |
| 22:09.56 | Jamash | unless your battery powered wheelchair is designed by a crippled supervillain to include an EMF jammer |
| 22:10.25 | Kraps | like, it doesnt mess with cordless phones |
| 22:10.47 | Jamash | what range are you using the mouse at? |
| 22:11.15 | Kraps | i'm looking to buy one |
| 22:11.43 | Kraps | need a new mouse and this logitech one looks badass |
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| 22:11.50 | Kraps | http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-V450-Cordless-Laser-Mouse/dp/B000GABCY2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1236290623&sr=8-1 |
| 22:12.11 | Kraps | never had a digital before though |
| 22:12.23 | Kraps | so i want to make sure |
| 22:12.51 | Jamash | I have the MX1100, it has sensitivity adjustment and lots of buttons |
| 22:13.42 | Kraps | damn |
| 22:13.42 | Jamash | I like it a lot |
| 22:14.07 | Kraps | good for wow huh? |
| 22:14.11 | Jamash | yep |
| 22:14.13 | Thunder_Child | if anyone uses itunes here are a number of hacks for it, http://i.gizmodo.com/5164471/dealzmodo-hack-making-itunes-work-for-you |
| 22:14.47 | selckin | 404 |
| 22:14.50 | Jamash | I have mouse4 on mount, shift+mouse4 on flying mount, mouse5 on miscellaneous quest item |
| 22:15.00 | Jamash | mouse6 on ventrilo |
| 22:15.18 | Thunder_Child | selckin, works fine for me |
| 22:15.32 | Kraps | its a little above my price range |
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| 22:16.35 | Kraps | good for spamming heroic strike or cleave every swing though :D |
| 22:18.10 | Kraps | <--tank ftw |
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| 22:20.09 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 22:20.10 | Thunder_Child | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/03/dont-insert-into-penis.jpg |
| 22:20.59 | mikma | i wish there would be a *nix based AirPort streaming software :I |
| 22:21.00 | Shirik | wtf Thunder_Child |
| 22:21.02 | Kraps | rofl |
| 22:21.19 | Jamash | O_o |
| 22:21.20 | Thunder_Child | dont look at me Shirik, i just report it |
| 22:21.32 | Kraps | "caution: contents hot" |
| 22:21.44 | Jamash | I have a set exactly like that but without the bizarre warning label |
| 22:21.45 | Shirik | contents hot is even more reasonable than that |
| 22:21.53 | jnwhiteh | hey man |
| 22:21.54 | jnwhiteh | fetishes |
| 22:21.56 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 22:22.24 | durcyn | mikma: tried Simplify? |
| 22:23.07 | Lunessa | I went to school and several of the athletes there injected drugs/roids like that screwdriver picture. |
| 22:23.25 | Lunessa | I meant - I went to school in LA and ... |
| 22:24.02 | Kraps | LA <--key word |
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| 22:25.14 | Thunder_Child | louisiana is supposed to be a hard state |
| 22:25.32 | mikma | durcyn: nope |
| 22:25.41 | Lunessa | Los Angeles, Not Louisiana |
| 22:25.43 | ccox | yeah, but it has a smaller population than the state of Los Angeles |
| 22:25.49 | Kraps | 5% hit is enough? |
| 22:25.53 | ccox | (really, I have no idea - just made that up) |
| 22:25.53 | Shirik | LA is not a word |
| 22:26.03 | Lunessa | kraps 9% for melee. |
| 22:26.04 | ccox | No, LA is a state of being |
| 22:26.19 | Shirik | is that state "high"? |
| 22:26.22 | Ose | agh |
| 22:26.38 | ccox | partly, also partly "silicone and collagen enhanced" |
| 22:26.39 | Ose | ~seen tuller |
| 22:26.42 | purl | tuller <n=Tuller@c-68-57-165-234.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 20h 33m 50s ago, saying: 'lalalalala'. |
| 22:26.43 | mikma | durcyn: also, that won't do |
| 22:26.50 | Ose | muh |
| 22:26.55 | Shirik | That totally sounds like something Tuller would say |
| 22:27.15 | Ose | anyone know if his bar addon whose name escapes me is 3.1 compatible? |
| 22:27.15 | Kraps | Lunessa: tank gear doesnt have much hit, wondering whats enough to not sacrifice other stats |
| 22:27.24 | Shirik | Dominos |
| 22:27.44 | mikma | hey umm, what's a cool way of "disabling" ActionButtons? :D |
| 22:27.45 | Ose | I keep dying because I hit keys which aren't bound to anything |
| 22:27.51 | mikma | like when you use Taxi, they grey up |
| 22:28.05 | Shirik | mikma: joo janta glasses |
| 22:28.16 | mikma | shirik: priceless! |
| 22:28.53 | Kraps | and do i get powerful stats or defense on chest? i'm def minimumed |
| 22:29.27 | Shirik | def imo |
| 22:29.33 | Shirik | but I'm not a tank |
| 22:29.56 | mikma | def. |
| 22:30.32 | Codayus | Kraps: I'd go with defence. It's good avoidance. You get a little stam/avoidance/tps from a stat enchant, but not enough to worry about. |
| 22:31.28 | Kraps | i also have to finance the 40 stam to bracers for guild enchanter cuz she wont pay for it :/ |
| 22:31.54 | Kraps | to buy it from the vendor |
| 22:32.02 | Thunder_Child | LA isnt that bad people |
| 22:32.13 | Thunder_Child | mostly |
| 22:36.52 | Shirik | LA is bad |
| 22:36.55 | Shirik | it's on the west coast |
| 22:37.03 | Shirik | eastsidaz ftw |
| 22:37.04 | Jamash | you mean the best coast |
| 22:37.09 | Shirik | negative |
| 22:37.14 | Shirik | east coast > west coast |
| 22:37.15 | Ose | ffs |
| 22:37.19 | Shirik | We don't have all that pollution |
| 22:37.39 | Ose | I can't move a meter without dying ingame now |
| 22:40.45 | Kraps | we also have new york |
| 22:40.57 | Kraps | new york > rest of US |
| 22:41.04 | Lunessa | OMG - East Coast, West Coast, all on the same continent. |
| 22:41.06 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.33 | Lunessa | I've lived on all three major US coasts. They all blow equally. |
| 22:41.53 | Kraps | rofl |
| 22:42.33 | foxlit | So, pop quiz. Who's done the torture quest? |
| 22:42.45 | Kraps | i have , way back |
| 22:42.48 | mikma | depends what quest |
| 22:42.53 | Jamash | which, the DK one or...? |
| 22:42.54 | foxlit | Kirin Tor, borean. |
| 22:42.55 | mikma | there's several in WoW :D |
| 22:43.03 | mikma | foxlit: poke, poke, poke, poke, poke, done |
| 22:43.10 | Jamash | yes |
| 22:43.20 | Kraps | mikma: ZOMG TORTURE |
| 22:43.27 | Jamash | ZAP ZAP |
| 22:43.29 | foxlit | They've actually got dialog in case you continue |
| 22:43.34 | Jamash | wow |
| 22:43.57 | Kraps | actually it gave me slight pause tbh |
| 22:44.04 | Lunessa | foxlit: I've done it many times. |
| 22:44.08 | Kraps | unexpected |
| 22:44.53 | Kraps | Dictionary.com Word of the Day - parry: deflect a blow |
| 22:44.56 | Kraps | hehe |
| 22:45.03 | Kraps | in my gmail |
| 22:45.17 | Tekkub | parry jab spin |
| 22:45.21 | Kraps | mines at 16% :p |
| 22:45.38 | mikma | foxlit: so what's the point? :) |
| 22:46.36 | foxlit | mikma: there isn't one. It's just interesting that they've prepared for the eventuality; wonder how many times it actually occurred on live realms. |
| 22:49.05 | mikma | .. ok? :) |
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| 22:51.25 | Jamash | I wonder if I should bother supporting learning talents in combat |
| 22:51.29 | Jamash | it's such a goofy edge case |
| 22:52.41 | Kraps | Jamash: eh? |
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| 22:54.20 | Jamash | well, my addon monitors skills being learned, and pops up a window |
| 22:54.39 | Jamash | but you can't create action buttons during combat |
| 22:55.09 | Jamash | so the question is should I just ignore abilities learned during combat (such as someone spending talent points in combat) or just ignore it and move on |
| 22:55.18 | Jamash | er, ignore it or go to some lengths to support it |
| 22:55.22 | Shadowed | Why not just queue it? |
| 22:55.28 | Jamash | I could do that |
| 22:55.29 | Shadowed | when they leave combat, do it as normal |
| 22:55.59 | Kraps | "someone spending talent points in combat" wut? |
| 22:56.06 | Jamash | I've done it |
| 22:56.15 | Jamash | not often, but I've done it |
| 22:56.51 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 22:56.54 | Jamash | got asked to respec holy for the headless horseman, didn't finish spending points before the fight started |
| 22:57.12 | Kraps | ... |
| 22:57.14 | Jamash | yes, I know it's weird |
| 22:57.52 | Jamash | I suppose I'll make a queue, shouldn't be that hard |
| 22:58.09 | Kraps | cant wait to beat the headless horsemans ass again |
| 22:58.54 | Kraps | i tanked him at 68 |
| 22:59.00 | Jamash | nice |
| 22:59.33 | Kraps | ty, plus i have the mount :D |
| 22:59.41 | Jamash | ooh |
| 22:59.49 | Jamash | I wants it |
| 22:59.50 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.20 | Jamash | I haven't gotten any of the drop mounts yet, just a couple of rep grind mounts |
| 23:00.32 | mikma | maldivia: omg i think i did it, woo! |
| 23:02.06 | Kraps | i need a purple tank sword /sigh |
| 23:02.29 | Kraps | utgarde pinnacle can bite me |
| 23:03.02 | Kraps | i aint running that shit |
| 23:05.35 | Tekkub | fucking do it |
| 23:05.37 | Tekkub | I did it |
| 23:05.40 | Tekkub | for weeks |
| 23:05.49 | Tekkub | for the tank of a guild I hate... |
| 23:05.56 | Thunder_Child | flying between temple of storms and dun diffelem is no fun with a reg flying mount |
| 23:06.14 | Tekkub | ToS needs a flight point damnit! |
| 23:06.17 | Thunder_Child | s/di/ni/ |
| 23:06.18 | mikma | oh the joy |
| 23:06.25 | Kraps | Tekkub: does not compute |
| 23:06.27 | Lunessa | Tekkub: That blows. |
| 23:06.32 | mikma | leveling a mage thats missing epic flying mount |
| 23:07.01 | Thunder_Child | i can make the carpet in 15 tailoring lvls but i have been lazy |
| 23:07.09 | Tekkub | Lunessa, eh, I probably wouldn't have cared much except the guy acts like an impatient ADHD child |
| 23:07.28 | Kraps | so you did it because... |
| 23:07.29 | Tekkub | every run, boss down, loot pops up, not there, he passes and hearths |
| 23:07.43 | Tekkub | doesn't even stick around to get people who don't want to hearth out |
| 23:07.43 | Kraps | you care? |
| 23:07.53 | Tekkub | because ex-roomie |
| 23:07.56 | Tekkub | :P |
| 23:07.59 | Kraps | ah |
| 23:08.04 | Tekkub | it's his guild, and I like playing with him |
| 23:08.22 | Tekkub | the rest of his guild except like 6 people are all a bunch of fucking children though |
| 23:08.24 | Thunder_Child | obviously not |
| 23:08.25 | Lunessa | Tekkub: He's not playing an MMO, he's playing a single-layer game with lots of strange NPCs. |
| 23:08.30 | Tekkub | and this tank's kinda borderline to me |
| 23:08.58 | Tekkub | I also went on a Vault run with him on his priest... and me on mine |
| 23:09.00 | Kraps | i think the only way i completed h up was when i respecced to dps |
| 23:09.05 | Tekkub | do the usual buff the raid shit |
| 23:09.08 | Kraps | 500 dps ftw |
| 23:09.17 | Tekkub | get to the boss guy, he sends me a tell (he's leading) |
| 23:09.22 | Tekkub | asking if I have candles |
| 23:09.29 | Tekkub | fine, I'll play nice, give him a few |
| 23:09.43 | Tekkub | he turns around and REBUFFS the raid with MY reagents |
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| 23:09.49 | Kraps | lol |
| 23:10.10 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.37 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNX518hfghU |
| 23:11.45 | Kraps | Congressman Makes Preemptive Apology For Extramarital Affair |
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| 23:14.42 | Kraps | see ya |
| 23:15.11 | Shadowed | k for someone who knows the secure stuff better than I do, it should be possible to OnEnter show a static list of children that you can cast a spell on, and then OnLeave hide them all? |
| 23:16.31 | Jamash | I think so |
| 23:16.39 | Tekkub | yes |
| 23:16.48 | Shadowed | excellent |
| 23:16.52 | Tekkub | *points at tekPopbar* |
| 23:17.05 | Tekkub | same idea, but different attrs on the child buttons |
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| 23:19.24 | Shadowed | yea that pretty much looks exactly like I'm trying to do, just with spells on raid members not player ones |
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| 23:41.01 | Lunessa | ... SO WRONG - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT6KpsJs1Io |
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| 23:45.30 | Thunder_Child | wtf "Failed to read file DUNGEONS\TEXTURES\AZJOL\JLO_AZJNUB_CAVECEILING.blp." |
| 23:46.57 | ReAn | Looks like you're missing a texture, or it's corrupted |
| 23:47.10 | Thunder_Child | keeps crashing me out of wow |
| 23:47.19 | Thunder_Child | when i try to log in |
| 23:47.30 | ReAn | I've noticed that slowly over time parts of your mpq's get corrupted |
| 23:47.41 | ReAn | my own computers and my friends end up eventually |
| 23:47.42 | Thunder_Child | my group is going to think i pulled the plug since it happened just as we died to a stupid war |
| 23:47.57 | ReAn | Well you keep loading into the same spot which references that tex |
| 23:48.08 | ReAn | i had the same problem flying over parts of Zangar a while ago |
| 23:48.13 | Thunder_Child | ya, running teh repair bot |
| 23:48.15 | Thunder_Child | thing |
| 23:48.25 | ReAn | i fixed it by replacing expansion.mpq from my friend's comp over the network |
| 23:49.53 | ReAn | blizz should release SHA1 Hashes of all thier files |
| 23:50.01 | ReAn | so we can tell if they're corrupted |
| 23:50.03 | Shirik | they do release hashes |
| 23:50.07 | Shirik | it's called an MPQ |
| 23:50.12 | Mikk | erm that's kinda what the repairtool does |
| 23:50.15 | Mikk | tell if they're corrupted |
| 23:50.21 | ReAn | i know, but the repair tool is a dummy |
| 23:50.30 | ReAn | it's easier to know if expansion.mpq is corrupt |
| 23:50.35 | ReAn | then i copy pasta from a friends pc |
| 23:50.37 | ReAn | or my other comp |
| 23:50.44 | ReAn | vs doing the whole repair process |
| 23:50.47 | ReAn | which is slow |
| 23:50.47 | Shirik | every file in an mpq has a hash |
| 23:51.03 | ReAn | but what if the mpq itself is corrupt |
| 23:51.14 | Shirik | Then the header would give that away |
| 23:51.20 | ReAn | ah, i guess |
| 23:51.36 | Shirik | how do you know if a ZIP file is corrupt |
| 23:51.51 | ReAn | hash the whole file, compare to what it should be |
| 23:52.00 | Shirik | There's actually a signature for the entire MPQ too |
| 23:52.06 | Shirik | though it's actually deprecated |
| 23:52.22 | Shirik | ReAn: That assumes you know what the zip file's hash is supposed to do |
| 23:52.24 | Shirik | s/do/be |
| 23:52.27 | Shirik | which is an invalid assumption |
| 23:52.34 | Shirik | There are an infinite number of ways to package a ZIP file |
| 23:52.37 | Shirik | with the same contents |
| 23:52.41 | ReAn | ah |
| 23:52.43 | ReAn | i guess so |
| 23:52.46 | Shirik | the same is true for an MPQ file |
| 23:53.00 | Shirik | Admittedly, only one person packages the MPQs so they should be identical |
| 23:53.04 | Shirik | but fact of the matter is they don't have to be |
| 23:53.05 | ReAn | i couldn't remember if the deflate algo turned out the same packaged value |
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| 23:53.07 | mikma | so.. Horde always yells "For the Horde!".. but what does alliance actually yell? :D |
| 23:53.17 | kd3 | for gnomeregan! |
| 23:53.24 | mikma | kd3: uh! |
| 23:53.29 | Shirik | "For the loss!" |
| 23:57.45 | Tekkub | mikma, http://www.supermegatopia.com/booty/gallery/gallery.php?thisLink=battle-cries.jpg |
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| 23:59.17 | mikma | tekkub: my point exactly |
| 23:59.45 | Shirik | unleash monkey overdrive |
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