| 00:00.15 | jnwhiteh | there's no need to use it, either |
| 00:00.19 | jnwhiteh | you can convert away from it easily |
| 00:00.25 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/blp2png |
| 00:00.30 | devZero | I created the tga in photoshop... not sure what I did wrong |
| 00:00.32 | Wimpsy` | Hmm, does anyone know what the fontstring for zonetexts on minimap is called? I know the frame is MinimapZoneTextButton, but what's the fontstring's name? :) |
| 00:00.47 | Esamynn|Work | devZero: you said your TGA file worked when you loaded it with Lua? |
| 00:00.53 | devZero | yes |
| 00:00.59 | jnwhiteh | yeah that's very odd. |
| 00:01.03 | jnwhiteh | devZero: you can try opening Dominos icon, editing that and putting that in your place |
| 00:01.20 | Esamynn|Work | Wimpsy`: /dtframestack FTW |
| 00:01.25 | jnwhiteh | idd |
| 00:01.33 | Wimpsy` | What's that? :P |
| 00:01.34 | Zootfizzle | It's MinimapZoneText :P |
| 00:01.41 | Wimpsy` | Thanks zootfizzle |
| 00:01.48 | Wimpsy` | simple stuff like that makes me wanna facedesk :( |
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| 00:02.17 | Esamynn|Work | Wimpsy`: it's a feature in DevTools, which displays the stack of widgets under the mouse |
| 00:02.38 | Wimpsy` | ah i see |
| 00:02.39 | Wimpsy` | nice |
| 00:02.44 | Wimpsy` | I'll check out Devtools then! |
| 00:03.17 | Esamynn|Work | DevTools is your holy toolbox, never leave home without it! ;) |
| 00:07.18 | Wimpsy` | Hehe ;) |
| 00:07.22 | Cairenn | ~devtools |
| 00:07.23 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 00:09.01 | devZero | ok.. I just don't know |
| 00:09.26 | devZero | I edited the Dominos image and attempted to it.. same problem |
| 00:09.51 | Lunessa | devZero: The problem is almost certainly an invalid format of your .tga file. |
| 00:10.09 | devZero | That doesn't explain why it works in lua, but not xml |
| 00:10.20 | devZero | the image works, if I use the lua code to generate the button |
| 00:10.28 | Lunessa | Missed that. |
| 00:10.55 | Lunessa | You get an green square? |
| 00:10.59 | devZero | yes |
| 00:11.15 | Lunessa | Then you have the path incorrect most likely. |
| 00:11.36 | devZero | Interface\AddOns\MyAddOn\MyAddonImage |
| 00:12.10 | Lunessa | Did you add or move the image after the game loaded? |
| 00:12.25 | devZero | hmmmm.. let me try something |
| 00:12.58 | devZero | works! |
| 00:12.58 | Cidan | Christ that sounds nice right now |
| 00:13.09 | Cidan | why do I feel the sudden urge to drink now-a-days? |
| 00:13.21 | devZero | I created the image, and only did a /script ReloadUI(), I restarted, and it shows up as expetced now |
| 00:13.48 | devZero | thanks everyone.. I'll be back later w/ more ridiculous and stupid questions :) |
| 00:16.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: no, ME |
| 00:16.32 | Lunessa | SBO - You can have a jack and coke too then. |
| 00:26.57 | Wimpsy` | What's the event that fires when you change zones? |
| 00:27.46 | kd3 | ouch. fail I should not have logged out |
| 00:27.49 | kd3 | 532 queue |
| 00:28.40 | ronghail | ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA |
| 00:28.49 | Wimpsy` | Thank you very much ronghail |
| 00:28.59 | ronghail | I just googled it, who knows if it is right |
| 00:29.34 | Tekkub | there's a few, depending on what exactly you moved between |
| 00:30.55 | Wimpsy` | I want to color MinimapZoneText to white, unfortunately it goes back to yellow every time i change zones and log in :/ |
| 00:31.04 | Syzgyn | kd3: is that on the PTR? |
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| 00:31.34 | Wimpsy` | Tekkub: Know how to solve perhaps? :) |
| 00:31.44 | Wimpsy` | ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA din't help |
| 00:31.48 | Wimpsy` | thanks anyway |
| 00:32.27 | Tekkub | http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/03fa959811008ddcc03a6e95f82437b2ac21b056/FrameXML/Minimap.lua#L37 |
| 00:32.49 | Tekkub | I'd just call MinimapZoneText:SetTextColor with your args, then replace it with a noop |
| 00:33.04 | Wimpsy` | noop? |
| 00:33.05 | Tekkub | MinimapZoneText:SetTextColor(1,1,1); MinimapZoneText.SetTextColor = function() end |
| 00:33.11 | Wimpsy` | aha |
| 00:33.20 | Wimpsy` | SetTextColor works? I got told it was SetVertexColor |
| 00:33.23 | Wimpsy` | Thank you Tekkub! |
| 00:33.23 | Wimpsy` | :D |
| 00:33.58 | Tekkub | note you won't get the other PVP colors if you do that |
| 00:34.04 | Wimpsy` | it worked a charm |
| 00:34.06 | Wimpsy` | no i know |
| 00:37.05 | kd3 | syz; ya |
| 00:37.12 | Syzgyn | blha |
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| 03:30.26 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.0.x ToC: 30000 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | BlizzCon! http://tinyurl.com/cg6rb4 | #wowuidev - for the people who just cant get enough of assembler - krka |
| 03:30.33 | cogwheel | ~hug purl |
| 03:30.34 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs purl |
| 03:30.56 | cogwheel | ~pil |
| 03:30.56 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 03:31.14 | cogwheel | ~wowprogramming |
| 03:31.14 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons ~ http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob ~ a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
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| 03:31.24 | Dagmar | lua is way, way, way nicer than C# |
| 03:31.40 | cogwheel | different tools for different jobs imo :P |
| 03:31.47 | LeeUK | Thank you :) http://wowprogramming.com/ |
| 03:32.15 | cogwheel | :) |
| 03:32.29 | Dagmar | So... just on the off chance someone knows... Messing with PitBull the other night I wound up looking at the "Other" category for text labels... why on earth is "gay" in there as a label? |
| 03:32.48 | kd3 | ckknight, ^ |
| 03:33.03 | oao | why do you *think*? |
| 03:33.30 | cogwheel | ckknight: ambiguous pronouns 4tl |
| 03:33.33 | ckknight | Dagmar: it's because someone made that label, likely |
| 03:33.37 | cogwheel | :P |
| 03:33.42 | ckknight | cogwheel: ftw, you mean |
| 03:36.37 | Dagmar | Yeah but it's in there along side labels like "Health" and "Name" and such |
| 03:36.49 | Dagmar | I know *I* didn't make a custom label on it |
| 03:36.57 | Dagmar | I figured there was some inside joke going on |
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| 03:38.52 | Dagmar | I'm going to have to just beat the hell out of the addons directory until I find out what's adding that |
| 03:48.41 | Tekkub | WTB "Meh" button on TOS accept dialogs |
| 03:55.05 | NightHawkTheSane | i believe that's the 'decline' button ;) |
| 03:57.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Hm. mrs. Q is kinda hot. |
| 03:57.27 | Tekkub | no, that's the "I'm not going to read it, why the fuck are you making me scroll" button |
| 03:59.55 | NightHawkTheSane | i stand by my statement. :P |
| 04:00.07 | kd3 | whee, my 7 days is up |
| 04:00.15 | kd3 | wonder what's in the ripe disgusting jar on the ptr? |
| 04:00.25 | Ackis | Tekkub: did you see the page where he made a "cat accepts tos" thing? |
| 04:00.28 | NightHawkTheSane | a free server crash |
| 04:00.30 | LeeUK | that damn book thats linked every chapter and what page stuff is on thats on wowprogramming.com/chapters were can i get this? |
| 04:00.31 | kd3 | >.> icy mana potion x2. hopefully live's better |
| 04:00.45 | kd3 | wowprogramming.com/store |
| 04:01.21 | LeeUK | amazon us wont ship to me :( |
| 04:01.23 | LeeUK | i need uk lol |
| 04:01.42 | Ackis | amazon.co.uk? |
| 04:01.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, one of the authors is in the UK |
| 04:01.46 | cogwheel | it's there |
| 04:01.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Soooo you should be good |
| 04:02.09 | LeeUK | didnt show up let me search again |
| 04:02.09 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.amazon.co.uk/World-Warcraft-Programming-Reference-Creating/dp/0470229810/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235707317&sr=1-1 |
| 04:02.20 | LeeUK | u my friend are a STAR!# |
| 04:02.24 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:02.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Search box is hard ;) |
| 04:02.31 | Ackis | I got mine from www.helpholdupcouches.com |
| 04:02.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:02.43 | LeeUK | i need to learn to make addons fast and best way is to get this book right |
| 04:03.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Define 'fast' |
| 04:03.28 | LeeUK | as quicly as possible :) |
| 04:03.28 | Ackis | do you want to make good addons? |
| 04:03.44 | LeeUK | eventualy but not right away |
| 04:03.44 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 04:03.55 | LeeUK | at the min im strugling along trying to make other addons do what i want lol |
| 04:04.02 | LeeUK | and the lua proves difficult |
| 04:04.16 | LeeUK | so i want an understanding of the way it all fits together etc.. that book should teach me that :) |
| 04:04.29 | ScytheBlade1 | That it will |
| 04:04.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Have you programmed anything before? |
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| 04:05.44 | LeeUK | i been playing about with other peopoles ouf layouts and manipulating etc.. and i messed up ractionbarstyler - moved fine and set alpha and scales changed a few anchor points etc.. but i could not for the life of me set mouseover it just refused to work |
| 04:05.50 | LeeUK | ern ScytheBlade1 not really |
| 04:06.05 | LeeUK | did a little webdesign lol but thats not code its just random php lol |
| 04:06.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Then don't expect "fast" to be all that fast |
| 04:06.21 | LeeUK | however im a fast learner and im a pc engineer by trade :) |
| 04:06.28 | LeeUK | so i pick stuff up incredibly fast :) |
| 04:06.38 | ScytheBlade1 | That will help |
| 04:06.45 | Ackis | LeeUK: go fetch! |
| 04:06.52 | LeeUK | well before today id never seen lua lol |
| 04:07.20 | LeeUK | still managed to make a prety nice lookin ui with it tho xD but there not my own work its just my settings in sombody elses hard work lol |
| 04:07.31 | LeeUK | Ackis i will be doing :-) |
| 04:10.17 | LeeUK | lol i killed the channel |
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| 04:16.53 | Syzgyn | Fuck, there goes Immortal, again |
| 04:17.34 | Syzgyn | only 4 bosses away this time |
| 04:17.41 | |Jelly| | Someone die on Grob? (That's what happened on my first attempt at Undying. lol) |
| 04:17.54 | Syzgyn | Yep! |
| 04:18.00 | Syzgyn | to be fair, it wasnt really his fault |
| 04:18.05 | |Jelly| | wow. seriously? |
| 04:18.11 | Syzgyn | 4 slimes spawned, and one crit him for 18k |
| 04:18.24 | Syzgyn | all in 1 second |
| 04:19.04 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 04:19.16 | |Jelly| | Your peeps need to stay back! |
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| 04:19.37 | Syzgyn | yeap :\ |
| 04:24.31 | LeeUK | we got all the way to kt and a stupid rogue went in for the kill before the mob was tanked and died :( the one and only time we got past grob without a death lol |
| 04:25.11 | Dagmar | Heh that'll teach him |
| 04:26.15 | LeeUK | he got gkicked after it lol |
| 04:26.33 | Zootfizzle | :O |
| 04:26.44 | LeeUK | he was screeming on vent heal me ffs i can tank i have dodge with evasion lol |
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| 04:30.00 | kd3 | whee |
| 04:30.00 | LeeUK | lol |
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| 04:30.59 | LeeUK | anybody got any ideas on how i can select a texture in pitbull the list is so damn long i cant even see most of the textures i have :( |
| 04:32.04 | ckknight | mousewheel? |
| 04:32.48 | LeeUK | mousewheel is busted :( |
| 04:32.53 | LeeUK | doesnt scroll :-( |
| 04:35.18 | Dagmar | How do you even play |
| 04:42.48 | LeeUK | rebound chat scroll to up / down arrow :D |
| 04:44.31 | keias | Are there any addons for nameplates that someone could recommend? |
| 04:44.39 | Thunder_Child | aloft |
| 04:44.53 | keias | Wasn't sure if that was still around. |
| 04:45.02 | WobWork | zomg http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/vshop/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=921 |
| 04:45.06 | NightHawkTheSane | there's an updated version on wowi |
| 04:45.07 | Thunder_Child | i use it |
| 04:45.08 | WobWork | best micky mouse model ever |
| 04:45.13 | NightHawkTheSane | dont think it's updated on wowace |
| 04:45.14 | keias | k, thanks |
| 04:46.42 | LeeUK | lol |
| 04:47.09 | LeeUK | micky mouse thing was awesome |
| 04:47.48 | kd3 | wahahaha, just one-shot a level 76 |
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| 04:48.12 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://www.zooborns.com/zooborns/2009/02/whats-cuter-than-a-fennec-fox.html |
| 04:48.25 | Cairenn | awww |
| 04:49.28 | LeeUK | awww lol |
| 04:50.05 | LeeUK | u guys give feedback or critisism on a ui :P |
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| 04:57.43 | LeeUK | http://www.wegame.com/watch/Ozzey_ui_WIP/ |
| 04:58.00 | LeeUK | anybody offer any conscructive critism or advice or opinions :) |
| 05:01.02 | Wobin | woah |
| 05:01.07 | Wobin | 30min hearth cooldowns |
| 05:01.15 | Wobin | that's a nice change |
| 05:02.00 | ScytheBlade1 | They nerfed the ghetto hearth though |
| 05:02.11 | Corrodias | howso? |
| 05:02.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Instead of to your hearth location, it ports you to the nearest GY |
| 05:02.20 | Corrodias | aw :( |
| 05:03.01 | Wobin | I liked ghetto hearth =\ |
| 05:04.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm surprised they didn't do that earlier |
| 05:04.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Nerf ghetto hearthing that is |
| 05:04.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Not the 30m reduction |
| 05:04.52 | Corrodias | i'm surprised that both took so long |
| 05:05.05 | Corrodias | oh well, off to play stuff! |
| 05:05.38 | Wobin | I'm not particularly surprised it took so long |
| 05:05.46 | Wobin | since it's not exactly a game breaking mechanic |
| 05:10.13 | Seerah | tooltip still says it's an hour |
| 05:10.20 | Seerah | anyway, do we have a PTR guild yet? |
| 05:23.23 | ScytheBlade1 | probably not |
| 05:23.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Also |
| 05:23.38 | Seerah | :D |
| 05:23.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I read up when my name is mentioned :) |
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| 06:08.02 | Syzgyn | Another week, another week without any betrayer drops |
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| 06:55.25 | Thunder_Child | hmm...seems rather slow tonight |
| 06:59.26 | Tekkub | wryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 06:59.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ryeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 07:04.29 | Iriel | Well, the thread's not really "finished" yet, but I've at least created the 3.1 API changes thread http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443405133&sid=1 |
| 07:06.07 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm, those equipment set methods look like you could do some decent modding of that. |
| 07:06.16 | NightHawkTheSane | neat.. |
| 07:09.36 | Shadowed | hm RequestBattlegroundInstanceInfo |
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| 07:28.19 | Dagmar | They'll never be as cool as Outfitter for making you strip naked the moment you mount |
| 07:35.09 | NightHawkTheSane | ... k |
| 07:36.17 | NightHawkTheSane | also, i totally got to 365 skinning at level 58 >.> |
| 07:36.35 | foxlit | "You cannot move standard Blizzard frames while in combat. It is disallowed and even if you try, you'll end up tainting the UI." |
| 07:36.36 | foxlit | I wonder. |
| 07:36.59 | Dagmar | I believe them |
| 07:37.20 | foxlit | I think that sounds like a challenge. |
| 07:38.05 | foxlit | Unfortunately, I can't even find what executes the vehicle animation. |
| 07:41.07 | Dagmar | Well, I just know what happens on the rare times I've logged in and spawned atop some hostile mobs. |
| 07:41.20 | Dagmar | I have to type my freaking abilities because my UI self-destructs |
| 07:41.37 | Dagmar | It's amazing how fast you can type Intimidation, Feign Death and so on |
| 07:41.42 | Dagmar | ...when you absolutely have to |
| 07:41.51 | foxlit | Meh. |
| 07:42.09 | foxlit | You'd think that ADDON_LOADED fires before PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD that fires before lockdown |
| 07:42.33 | Dagmar | I suspect perhaps that Macaroon might be instantating the windows and then moving them to where they're supposed to be |
| 07:43.08 | foxlit | anyway, it's own fault for not forcing a sync on PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED |
| 07:43.16 | Dagmar | Blizzard seriously doesn't want windows moving while in combat because twits will bot |
| 07:43.55 | foxlit | Considering it's all pre-set up macros, it really doesn't have much of an excuse |
| 07:44.39 | kd3 | meh, the only mod I have issues with logging in while in combat is pitbull |
| 07:46.06 | foxlit | Something like http://pastey.net/109100 should work |
| 07:46.39 | foxlit | Just have to make sure that that's the right point to set :/ |
| 07:48.11 | Syzgyn | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20090227 ahahaha |
| 07:48.18 | kd3 | ya |
| 07:48.22 | kd3 | that daily quest bugged me |
| 07:49.00 | Dagmar | I did it once, and never again. |
| 07:49.04 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 07:49.05 | Dagmar | Too ugly to contemplate. |
| 07:49.07 | foxlit | more or less than the "kidnap their younglings" quest? |
| 07:49.18 | Dagmar | I have no problem with feeding them puppies. |
| 07:49.25 | kd3 | no, that's the have two seals have sex quest |
| 07:49.27 | Dagmar | They at least have the good taste to never let me see them eat them. |
| 07:49.39 | Dagmar | The mating seals quest will make you wish you had panned the camera away |
| 07:49.47 | Dagmar | U-g-l-y. |
| 07:50.16 | Dagmar | It's kind of a blessing that they're a VERY easy faction to raise. |
| 07:51.17 | Dagmar | Meh.> need to file a bug report but too tiredd |
| 07:51.17 | foxlit | 1500 / day == meh |
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| 07:51.32 | Dagmar | I found a race condition in the frog kissing thing |
| 07:51.51 | Dagmar | ...just by being stupid with a macro. |
| 07:52.29 | kd3 | oops. it's also pretty easy to exploit if someone else is there. as soon as one person gets the maiden everyone who gets to her before she despawns can get the sword |
| 07:52.30 | Dagmar | They probably just need to change the way the warts-b-gone balm works |
| 07:52.30 | foxlit | Shirik: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105 last post on page 1 |
| 07:52.55 | foxlit | actually, nevermind. |
| 07:52.57 | Shirik | huh? |
| 07:53.26 | foxlit | Back to hibernating, I need to l2read date stamps |
| 07:54.28 | Dagmar | kd3: Well, the warts thing becomes somewhat pointless if it doesn't prevent you finding her |
| 07:55.04 | Dagmar | kd3: ...and if you use a macro that uses the balm, clears target, targets lake frog, /kiss, when the balm is reapplied it disappears just long enough to get warts anyway |
| 07:55.58 | kd3 | heh |
| 07:56.04 | kd3 | wru built-in reporting tool? |
| 07:56.27 | Dagmar | For whatever reason they seemed to have turned that *off* on the PTR day before yesterday |
| 07:56.57 | Dagmar | I meant to just mail in the bug report while at work, but spent way too much time climbing around under and over raised flooring today |
| 07:57.22 | kd3 | it wasn't in the first build either unless it was enabled for the euros |
| 07:57.48 | Dagmar | I suspect they had a bad time of it from the noobs during the last PTR test |
| 07:58.09 | jnwhiteh | If LeeUK comes back, let him know that Blackwells carrys it as well |
| 07:58.28 | Dagmar | You see what kind of dross goes on in the forums... I woudln't want to have to wade through what those people would say when they think no one's watching at all |
| 07:59.15 | Dagmar | Heck, the error #132'ing got to me enough that a few times I just typed "Alt-tabbed to another window fapping." for the crash report |
| 07:59.50 | kd3 | my account has got the "one of those linux heathens" flags set on it |
| 08:00.03 | Dagmar | They have a flag for that? Hehe |
| 08:00.14 | Fisker- | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 08:00.19 | Fisker- | Fisker dømt for massemord på sæler |
| 08:00.28 | Dagmar | I use Slackware, so it means building freaking WINE first for me |
| 08:00.35 | kd3 | english please. I don't speak monty pythonesque |
| 08:00.39 | kd3 | oof |
| 08:00.52 | Fisker- | Translated: Fisker sentenced for mass murder of seals |
| 08:01.02 | Fisker- | But i own the seal cub clubbling club :( |
| 08:01.11 | Dagmar | You're kidding |
| 08:01.14 | Dagmar | Such a thing exists? |
| 08:01.36 | kd3 | back in beta. it was the reward for killing 1 million seals (the orginal tuskarrmaggedon achievement) |
| 08:01.38 | Dagmar | I figured they just never dropped anything interesting |
| 08:01.43 | Dagmar | Euw |
| 08:01.54 | Dagmar | Gorilla or not that would be tedious |
| 08:02.03 | kd3 | which was as much of a joke as the solo onyxia achievement |
| 08:02.23 | Dagmar | Man I wished I'd have noticed the hunter pet talent point problem they had the other day in time |
| 08:02.28 | Fisker- | onyxia achievement wasn't a joke |
| 08:02.38 | Dagmar | That would have made Ony *really* easy |
| 08:03.04 | Dagmar | Something was making pets get LOTS more attack power than they were supposed to |
| 08:03.49 | Dagmar | It would ahve been funny to go after that dragon and have a wolf doing more DPS than me |
| 08:03.56 | Fisker- | hahahaha |
| 08:04.19 | Fisker- | HS reduced to 30 minutes cooldown |
| 08:04.20 | Fisker- | about time |
| 08:04.30 | kd3 | slow fisker is slow |
| 08:04.40 | Fisker- | DEAD KD3 IS DEAD |
| 08:04.42 | Dagmar | Maybe in 3.2 they'll add class-specific achievements |
| 08:05.00 | Dagmar | ...so I can get "It's raining dwarves, hallelujah" |
| 08:05.33 | Dagmar | I'm a big fan of the new Disengage, but I don't always look before I leap |
| 08:05.49 | Dagmar | Storm Peaks and Icecrown aren't exactly amenable to that |
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| 08:07.39 | Dagmar | Note the twitter feed down the left hand side of Ctrl+Alt+Del |
| 08:07.57 | G_Crater | hi, i was wondering whether anyone's documented the change to the chatframe's message handler, namely the way it's passing event arguments to and from other addons |
| 08:08.11 | G_Crater | oh, this is for the test realm btw |
| 08:08.42 | G_Crater | can't get my head around it, but it seems to be passing a table across to the functions rather than a string =/ |
| 08:10.00 | Dagmar | G_Crater: You may want to try something like http://lua-users.org/wiki/DataDumper |
| 08:10.33 | Dagmar | Data::Dumper used to save my bacon thrice monthyl when I was debugging perl for a paycheck |
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| 08:11.08 | G_Crater | ah, good old var_dump, guess that'll have to do |
| 08:11.25 | NightHawkTheSane | data::dumper makes me feel warm and fuzzy |
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| 08:12.15 | Dagmar | It's just sooo much easier to figure out what happened when you can quickly unravel whatever complex data structure showed up where you didn't expect it |
| 08:13.19 | G_Crater | hmm... seems that data dumper can't dump it |
| 08:13.35 | jnwhiteh | G_Crater: The first argument is the frame |
| 08:13.41 | G_Crater | ah |
| 08:13.49 | jnwhiteh | so you can filter frames independently |
| 08:14.05 | jnwhiteh | it also passes all of the arguments that the event gets |
| 08:14.13 | jnwhiteh | it should be frame, event, msg, ... |
| 08:14.29 | jnwhiteh | or at the very least frame, msg, ... |
| 08:14.32 | jnwhiteh | although I suspect the former |
| 08:14.57 | G_Crater | it's frame, event, msg, ... from what i can tell from the framexml |
| 08:15.04 | G_Crater | but they've changed the way it works from 3.0 to 3.1 |
| 08:15.40 | G_Crater | wait, i'm an idiot, i think i've got it now |
| 08:16.04 | jnwhiteh | yes, the change is a good one |
| 08:16.09 | jnwhiteh | it used to just be msg |
| 08:16.18 | jnwhiteh | now you can get all the information you need to do intelligent filtering |
| 08:16.33 | G_Crater | yeah, i was misreading how it was passing the arguments in |
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| 08:18.56 | G_Crater | ah yes, got it now, thanks a lot |
| 08:19.14 | jnwhiteh | np |
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| 08:36.17 | End | wow my ie7 is broken |
| 08:40.57 | Kalroth | it's the end |
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| 08:46.15 | G_Crater | also, is it just me or was that change undocumented? |
| 08:48.17 | Tekkub | lots of changes are undocumented |
| 08:48.30 | Tekkub | Blizzy doesn't officially provide any docs |
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| 08:56.18 | nevcairiel | its documented by framexml diffs, what do you need moar |
| 08:57.17 | Fisker- | hehe wtf |
| 08:57.21 | Fisker- | was doing the book of runes quest |
| 08:57.29 | Fisker- | and all the chapters dropped from the same mob |
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| 08:59.46 | Shirik | what should I go do |
| 08:59.49 | Shirik | anyone? |
| 09:00.17 | Kalroth | kinky |
| 09:00.24 | Shirik | I'm considering leveling a NE druid |
| 09:00.57 | Kalroth | >< |
| 09:04.24 | Fisker- | level a BE druid |
| 09:04.41 | Kalroth | Hordez 4 lyfe!!1 |
| 09:11.55 | Fisker- | awesome |
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| 10:16.51 | Shirik | Kalroth: I play BE |
| 10:16.56 | Shirik | I just need something different |
| 10:17.03 | Shirik | on a different server, etc. |
| 10:17.08 | Shirik | for escape purposes |
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| 10:18.18 | mikma | shirik: you want escape? go outside :I |
| 10:18.26 | Tekkub | beef |
| 10:18.32 | Shirik | I thought about going to the beach today |
| 10:18.33 | Kalroth | moo |
| 10:18.41 | Shirik | But I don't want to fill out all that paperwork |
| 10:18.41 | Tekkub | beef, the other white meat escape purpose |
| 10:19.35 | Tekkub | I hate programs that install desktop shortcuts... without asking... when you're UPGRADING an existing install |
| 10:19.59 | Tekkub | hi, if I wanted it, I WOULDN'T HAVE DELETED IT |
| 10:20.59 | nevcairiel | its just lazy devs that use the same installer for installing and upgrading |
| 10:21.27 | Tekkub | I know, don't make my bitching irrelevant! |
| 10:22.18 | Tekkub | anyway, off to bed to dream about Shirik's new beef |
| 10:22.32 | Shirik | beef? |
| 10:23.44 | End | wait |
| 10:23.49 | End | I thought it was Shirik's old beef |
| 10:24.00 | End | doesn't he not want new beef? |
| 10:24.29 | mikma | http://kuvat2.iltasanomat.fi/iltasanomat/iDoc/1658337-tikkuelvissisa.jpg |
| 10:24.33 | mikma | elvis made from matches |
| 10:25.52 | Shirik | I really hope his lips didn't look like that |
| 10:26.34 | mikma | http://kuvat2.iltasanomat.fi/iltasanomat/lisakuvat/1658307_3_obamadildo4.jpg |
| 10:27.08 | Shirik | mikma finds the strangest things |
| 10:27.16 | End | I'm not sure what to think of that, other than "what did I honestly expect with a url like that?" |
| 10:27.24 | mikma | it's one of the prime newspapers in finland... |
| 10:30.03 | mikma | oh what a news! |
| 10:30.20 | mikma | Guy Ritchie called Madonna by the name "It" |
| 10:32.07 | Fisker- | btw Tekkub |
| 10:32.15 | Fisker- | shouldn't panda have a scrollbar for disenchanting? :P |
| 10:33.12 | mikma | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1320253/ |
| 10:33.25 | mikma | whoever spots the right things about that link gets 10 points |
| 10:34.21 | Fisker- | go ahead and collect 10 points mikma |
| 10:34.46 | Lukian | Mikk, awesome, awesome and more awesome? |
| 10:34.50 | Fisker- | OWNED LUKIAN |
| 10:34.51 | Fisker- | OWNED |
| 10:47.53 | mikma | http://www.theinsider.com/photos/1721421_Celebrity_Falw_of_the_Day_Madonna_Facial_Hair |
| 10:48.02 | mikma | apparently madonna forgot to shave before she left the house |
| 10:48.14 | selckin | #care |
| 10:48.24 | Thunder_Child | should that be Flaw? |
| 10:48.29 | Thunder_Child | or is that just a bad joke |
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| 11:13.40 | mikma | "NOTE: Pics link to NSFW versions - with a hint of bacon." |
| 11:13.44 | mikma | hah |
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| 11:20.22 | mikma | http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/life_sized_dinosaur_bones_is_way_cooler_than_pillows.php |
| 11:20.26 | mikma | pillows with style |
| 11:24.44 | mikma | shirik: http://www.geekologie.com/2009/02/roll_one_up_america_obama_sush.php |
| 11:25.10 | Shirik | that looks good |
| 11:27.45 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2009/02/guys_cabinet_door_sounds_like.php hehe ^^ |
| 11:27.57 | mikma | the dude can't hold his laugh :D |
| 11:28.52 | mikma | hahah! http://www.geekologie.com/2009/02/do_it_yourself_pacman_motorcyc.php |
| 11:29.25 | Shirik | mikma is on a intertubes spree |
| 11:29.33 | Shirik | someone give him a 4chan link |
| 11:29.38 | mikma | haste! |
| 11:29.56 | mikma | i only link the greatest stuff ever known by humans |
| 11:31.40 | Thunder_Child | vs known by what? |
| 11:31.47 | mikma | dogs |
| 11:31.58 | Thunder_Child | woudlnt be hard then |
| 11:32.38 | mikma | i know |
| 11:40.13 | Maldivia | *yawn* |
| 11:41.33 | Shirik | HTTP/1.1 302 Found |
| 11:41.35 | Shirik | Location: blah |
| 11:41.38 | Shirik | ^ Is that correct? |
| 11:41.44 | Shirik | To redirect to a page |
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| 11:45.04 | Arrowmaster | you probably want 301 |
| 11:45.27 | Arrowmaster | or the other one, ones temp move and the other is perm move |
| 11:45.47 | Arrowmaster | 301 and 307 i think |
| 11:47.52 | myxplyx | join #tcl |
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| 11:48.43 | *** kick/#wowuidev [myxplyx!n=Shirik@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (gtfo now) |
| 11:48.51 | nevcairiel | 302 is fine for redirects |
| 11:49.40 | Shirik | I did that |
| 11:49.45 | Shirik | but it's not redirecting for some reason |
| 11:49.47 | nevcairiel | 301 is for permanent redirects, like when you totally change your page layout but want to support old links for a while, browsers MAY cache the target |
| 11:49.50 | Shirik | and I'm wondering if it's because I'm redirecting to a PNG |
| 11:49.54 | nevcairiel | 307 is for temporary redirects |
| 11:50.10 | Shirik | I'm not really worried about cache or anything like that, I just want it to work. I made it for a temporary purpose so someone doesn't have to type a huge url |
| 11:50.51 | nevcairiel | 302 should work, though |
| 11:51.23 | Shirik | I'm just wondering if it's not going to the next page due to it being a PNG instead of an HTML document |
| 11:51.30 | Shirik | but that seems stupid |
| 11:52.39 | nevcairiel | Got the url to test? |
| 11:52.48 | Shirik | http://secure.heresiarchguild.com/sobe.html |
| 11:53.18 | nevcairiel | i know why it doesnt work, haha |
| 11:53.22 | nevcairiel | look at the code of that thing |
| 11:53.28 | Maldivia | Shirik: hmm, wasn't that kick/ban a bit harsh? he might just have forgotten the beginning slash :) |
| 11:53.29 | nevcairiel | the php code is in there |
| 11:53.31 | nevcairiel | ant not executed |
| 11:53.36 | nevcairiel | *and |
| 11:53.39 | Shirik | really? |
| 11:53.51 | Shirik | chrome just shows the HTML |
| 11:53.58 | nevcairiel | firefox doesnt |
| 11:54.09 | nevcairiel | <?php |
| 11:54.09 | nevcairiel | header("HTTP/1.1 302 Found"); |
| 11:54.09 | nevcairiel | header("Location: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/8d8c5c5e6a907ee966e4d77661af21ae.png"); |
| 11:54.09 | nevcairiel | ?> |
| 11:54.26 | Shirik | Yeah IE shows the PHP too |
| 11:54.28 | Shirik | wtf Chrome |
| 11:54.38 | Shirik | ok that was stupid |
| 11:54.40 | nevcairiel | also, just use the php redirect() function? :) |
| 11:54.46 | Shirik | nana |
| 11:54.51 | Shirik | less hacks I use the better |
| 11:54.55 | nevcairiel | redirect(URL, 302) |
| 11:55.00 | nevcairiel | builds the header for you |
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| 11:55.59 | nevcairiel | oh wait, its different |
| 11:56.11 | Shirik | meh, I just learned using header() so |
| 11:56.14 | Shirik | but that was a long time ago |
| 11:56.32 | nevcairiel | just get the code to execute :P |
| 11:57.24 | Shirik | yeah I forgot I don't have html run through the php handler |
| 11:57.29 | Shirik | only .php does |
| 11:58.05 | Shirik | ok that was a stupid mistake |
| 11:58.05 | Shirik | thanks |
| 11:58.12 | Shirik | I blame chrome |
| 11:58.29 | Shirik | that's the stupidest thing ever |
| 11:58.31 | Shirik | chrome doesn't show php code |
| 11:58.34 | Shirik | Like |
| 11:58.38 | Shirik | What is ANY logical reason for that |
| 11:59.36 | nevcairiel | If you mess up like that, users won't see your passwords in the code! |
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| 12:00.58 | Shirik | wow, mirc is sucking more than usual lately |
| 12:01.13 | zenzio | so much hate |
| 12:01.21 | zenzio | what's it doing wrong? |
| 12:01.27 | Shirik | dying |
| 12:01.34 | zenzio | crashing or just disconnecting? |
| 12:01.38 | Shirik | locking up |
| 12:01.53 | zenzio | interesting. Don't know then |
| 12:01.57 | Shirik | Of course, nothing compares to my compiler being able to destroy the OS |
| 12:02.12 | zenzio | I know I used to get [10053] or something, but that seemed to be something about Windows and network activity |
| 12:02.31 | Shirik | 10053 is just generic disconnect (Winsock reported connection closed) |
| 12:02.54 | Shirik | nevcairiel: I made a copy of that offending code |
| 12:03.00 | Shirik | Tried it yesterday afternoon |
| 12:03.04 | Shirik | it still locks up the OS when compiled |
| 12:03.19 | nevcairiel | tried on another OS? |
| 12:03.25 | Shirik | hm, nope |
| 12:03.30 | Shirik | not even another computer really |
| 12:03.31 | zenzio | which language is it? |
| 12:03.40 | Shirik | C++ with inlined SSE4 assembly |
| 12:03.58 | nevcairiel | I wonder if my cpu has SSE4 already |
| 12:04.04 | Shirik | SSE4 is on Core 2 |
| 12:04.05 | zenzio | out of curiosity, why inline SSE4? |
| 12:04.16 | Shirik | Is for a paper I'm writing |
| 12:04.20 | zenzio | aha |
| 12:04.24 | nevcairiel | on all Core2? |
| 12:04.30 | Shirik | I believe all Core2 yes |
| 12:04.42 | Shirik | If you want to write a few assembler instructions I can tell you how to check ^_^ |
| 12:04.58 | zenzio | "SSE4 is an instruction set used in the Intel Core microarchitecture and AMD K10 (K8L)." |
| 12:04.59 | Shirik | EAX = 0x01; CPUID; will be able to tell you |
| 12:05.40 | nevcairiel | Wikipedia claims SSE4 was only introduced in the 45nm shrink, which i have one off |
| 12:06.23 | Shirik | ! |
| 12:06.26 | Shirik | nevcairiel uses mirc?! |
| 12:06.34 | nevcairiel | i'm lazy |
| 12:06.37 | Shirik | lol |
| 12:07.00 | nevcairiel | I have to work on windows apps, and it "works" for a windows irc client |
| 12:07.05 | Shirik | yup |
| 12:07.06 | Shirik | I agree |
| 12:07.17 | Shirik | in all honesty it's the only good-looking client that I know of (when I install my scripts) |
| 12:07.21 | Shirik | (for Windows) |
| 12:07.34 | nevcairiel | xchat works too, but i'm not paying for their damn windows compile |
| 12:07.42 | Shirik | pay? |
| 12:07.51 | nevcairiel | Yeah they charge money for the windows version |
| 12:07.54 | Shirik | wtf |
| 12:07.56 | nevcairiel | apparently because compiling for windows is so hard |
| 12:08.05 | Shirik | isn't it open source? |
| 12:08.11 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 12:08.14 | Shirik | how... |
| 12:08.26 | Shirik | how do you charge for an open source project |
| 12:08.35 | nevcairiel | "Building XChat for Windows is a difficult process, it requires quite some skill and expertise to accomplish. It takes time, and is by no means automated. " |
| 12:08.51 | Shirik | and they have to do it manually for each person? |
| 12:08.58 | nevcairiel | Like, that describes the coding process in general too |
| 12:09.09 | Shirik | heh |
| 12:09.10 | Shirik | this is true |
| 12:10.03 | nevcairiel | xchat is GPL, since they offer the source for free, the license allows them to charge for binary distribution, since they only claim to be charging for the effort in building |
| 12:10.12 | nevcairiel | not the code |
| 12:10.19 | Shirik | oh so |
| 12:10.26 | Shirik | you can get the code for free |
| 12:10.31 | krka | yes |
| 12:10.36 | Shirik | now I understand |
| 12:10.41 | krka | there are free xchat builds too, afaik |
| 12:10.49 | Shirik | I'm sure there are |
| 12:11.03 | krka | http://www.silverex.org/news/ |
| 12:11.23 | krka | i used to use xchat but have migrated to irssi |
| 12:11.33 | nevcairiel | I use xchat on linux |
| 12:12.19 | Shirik | you kknow what really bugs me about vista/7 |
| 12:12.21 | nevcairiel | I couldnt really get the hang of irssi yet, its too much console for me |
| 12:12.25 | Shirik | They got rid of the debug utility |
| 12:12.31 | Shirik | debug.com |
| 12:12.35 | Fisker- | y helo thar |
| 12:12.45 | zenzio | Shirik: was to be expected anyway |
| 12:12.46 | nevcairiel | debug.com was nice for small assembler testing |
| 12:12.59 | Shirik | I've used it a few times for useful purposes |
| 12:13.00 | krka | irssi is surprisingly easy to use for a console app |
| 12:13.00 | nevcairiel | we used it when initially learning x86 assembler |
| 12:13.06 | Torhal | Shirik: I'm sure they charge for Windows because most Windows users have no idea how to compile source, and they may also be anti-Windows like most fanbois on Slashdot. |
| 12:13.06 | nevcairiel | before we switched to MASM |
| 12:13.14 | Shirik | One thing I used it for was on our robot, we wanted to test a worst-case scenario |
| 12:13.21 | Shirik | for battery test |
| 12:13.28 | Shirik | so I pulled it up |
| 12:13.29 | Shirik | a 100 |
| 12:13.31 | Shirik | JMP 100 |
| 12:13.32 | Shirik | g |
| 12:13.37 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 12:13.38 | Shirik | waited 15 minutes and it shut off |
| 12:13.57 | nevcairiel | cant you run the debug.com from previous windows? |
| 12:14.08 | Shirik | I dunno I haven't tried |
| 12:14.15 | Shirik | but I think debug.com was a 16-bit app |
| 12:14.19 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 12:14.21 | nevcairiel | its a .com |
| 12:14.23 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 12:14.23 | Shirik | and I think they got rid of the 16-bit subsystem |
| 12:14.24 | zenzio | I expect they ditched it because of compatibility |
| 12:14.31 | zenzio | as long as it could run, they'd leave it in |
| 12:14.43 | zenzio | (but that's speculation, not something I've read) |
| 12:14.44 | Shirik | what bothers me is there's no replacement |
| 12:14.48 | Shirik | it's not like it's a complicated program |
| 12:15.04 | nevcairiel | write one? :) |
| 12:15.18 | Shirik | I have so many other things on my plate right now |
| 12:15.20 | zenzio | damnit nev, stop typing faster than me all the time! |
| 12:15.28 | Shirik | I might when it's a bit clearer |
| 12:15.56 | Shirik | on that note |
| 12:15.59 | Shirik | It's time for sleep |
| 12:16.13 | Shirik | by modern interpretation, it was time for sleep 7 hours ago, but that's not the point |
| 12:16.15 | Shirik | nite nite |
| 12:16.25 | nevcairiel | its tiem to get up |
| 12:16.27 | nevcairiel | *time |
| 12:16.46 | Shirik | oh look, windows updates |
| 12:16.49 | Shirik | time for stuff to break |
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| 12:38.34 | Thunder_Child | any particular flavor of? |
| 12:41.54 | foxlit | taaaaasty braaaaaaiiiiiinnnns? |
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| 13:34.04 | haste | mikma! |
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| 13:51.47 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epo8OcWGsW0&feature=related |
| 13:51.50 | Wobin | O.O |
| 13:52.12 | Lopeppeppy | Wobin! Please to include the NSFW tags! *poke* |
| 13:52.20 | Wobin | hm |
| 13:52.31 | Wobin | Not much in the way of NSFW, not too much bad language |
| 13:52.45 | Wobin | it -is- full of crazy though |
| 13:52.46 | sacarasc | The word "bitch" in the title. |
| 13:52.48 | Lopeppeppy | "not too much" gets some of us fired, silly monkey. :) |
| 13:53.00 | Wobin | Ah, sorry =) |
| 13:53.08 | Wobin | IT's youtube, what are you doing watching that at work? =) |
| 13:53.22 | Lopeppeppy | Cultural research. *wise nod* |
| 13:53.50 | Maldivia | rise in ranks and get your own office! |
| 13:56.11 | Lopeppeppy | I actually do have one, but we have an open door policy at the school, so the door is open to the world. |
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| 13:57.35 | Wobin | Quick summary |
| 13:57.35 | Maldivia | headphones, and screen turned away from the door then+ |
| 13:57.43 | Wobin | 15 year old white trash wants to have a baby |
| 13:57.55 | Wobin | "And I'm such a playa, you can't stop me" |
| 13:57.55 | Lopeppeppy | Screen turned, but headphones aren't allowed either. I can listen to quiet music though, it's great! |
| 13:58.16 | sacarasc | Hidden headphones! |
| 13:58.32 | Maldivia | I have both speakers and headphones here at my office - headphones when I really need to concentrate and don't want outside disturbance |
| 13:59.39 | Lopeppeppy | I *wish* I could concentrate. :) |
| 14:01.19 | sacarasc | First step to concentrating: Get off IRC. |
| 14:01.29 | Lopeppeppy | As if. |
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| 14:17.48 | nevcairiel | yay |
| 14:17.59 | nevcairiel | She listens to me! |
| 14:18.13 | Lopeppeppy | nevcairiel, that's awesome and thank you!! |
| 14:18.14 | nevcairiel | purl, welcome back |
| 14:18.15 | purl | Welcome to the party, back! |
| 14:18.23 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 14:40.34 | zenzio | muhahaaha im gay |
| 14:40.56 | Lopeppeppy | If you insist, zenzio. |
| 14:41.09 | zenzio | coworkers :) |
| 14:42.35 | Lopeppeppy | If you can't beat them, barbeque them. |
| 14:43.00 | zenzio | I'll just wait till he leaves his computer unattended ;) |
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| 15:15.44 | tlund | does anyone know if I can somehow import my cartographer notes into handynotes? |
| 15:17.33 | p3lim | Anyone got a difflist or something containing new API in 3.1? |
| 15:18.42 | foxlit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443405133&sid=1 |
| 15:21.54 | Lopeppeppy | Iriel is made of useful. |
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| 15:22.51 | nevcairiel | There is also a blue post by zoot for the new animation system |
| 15:22.59 | Lopeppeppy | mmm, animations! |
| 15:23.21 | foxlit | What's sorely missing there is how much of it made its way into the secureenvironments. |
| 15:25.14 | nevcairiel | Right now animations are purely non-secure |
| 15:25.24 | nevcairiel | it only modifies the visuals of the buttons |
| 15:25.39 | nevcairiel | the UI-Interactive part of the button stays at the same position |
| 15:25.50 | nevcairiel | will probably be soemwhat weird |
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| 15:26.06 | kneeki | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.16 | foxlit | Not quite as weird as it sounds :) |
| 15:26.22 | nevcairiel | For example, if a button is positioned at coordinates (50,50) and an animation moves it 50 pixels to the right (50,0), you would not be able to highlight the button by mousing over the button's position on the screen. |
| 15:26.26 | nevcairiel | To highlight the button, you would instead have to mouse over the button's original position to highlight it. The animation system only changes the visual placement of elements on the screen. In terms of user interaction, the original unanimated positions of UI elements are what get processed. |
| 15:26.29 | nevcairiel | what zoot wrote ^ |
| 15:27.46 | nevcairiel | I wonder if you can do dynamic animations using CreateFrame |
| 15:27.54 | nevcairiel | or some new API |
| 15:28.05 | foxlit | Wasn't that in the sticky? |
| 15:28.20 | kneeki | The standard size of a button is 32x32 correct? |
| 15:28.21 | nevcairiel | ah, yeah i missed the function |
| 15:28.27 | nevcairiel | Region:CreateAnimationGroup(...) |
| 15:28.35 | foxlit | kneeki: and by standard, you mean? |
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| 15:28.46 | foxlit | (also, "button" : ) |
| 15:28.56 | kneeki | foxlit: The normal buttons for an action bar? |
| 15:29.09 | nevcairiel | 36 36 i believe |
| 15:29.16 | kneeki | ah, thanks =) |
| 15:29.25 | foxlit | the art is 64x64 |
| 15:29.39 | foxlit | but yeah, between UI dimensions and scaling, they could be anything you want :) |
| 15:29.42 | nevcairiel | ActionButtonTemplate --> <AbsDimension x="36" y="36"/> |
| 15:29.48 | kneeki | Well yeah, of course |
| 15:30.03 | kneeki | I am just trying to fix up some old code of mine, and I did some uh... Weird things |
| 15:30.28 | kneeki | I made all my action buttons 60x60, then used scale @ .636 to set them the correct size ... |
| 15:30.35 | kneeki | no idea why. |
| 15:31.49 | Lopeppeppy | It was easier *at the time* |
| 15:31.56 | kneeki | lol, perhaps |
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| 17:20.24 | cog|work | ~love |
| 17:20.24 | purl | BABY DON'T HURT ME, DON'T HURT ME, NO MORE |
| 17:20.53 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack |
| 17:20.53 | purl | Lopeppeppy: aw, gee |
| 17:21.21 | Lopeppeppy | She's been very tired lately, poor girl. |
| 17:22.26 | Lunessa | cog|work: That is one goofy looking fish. One might even go so far as to call it dorky-looking. |
| 17:22.48 | cog|work | err |
| 17:22.55 | cog|work | wrong song |
| 17:23.47 | Lunessa | cog|work: You and me both. My alarm-clock didn't go off this morning, and I was nearly late. |
| 17:23.54 | Lopeppeppy | Ouch, bad. |
| 17:24.07 | Lopeppeppy | I woke up at oh-god-am and just stayed awake, patching my computer with windows and WoW updates. :) |
| 17:25.18 | kneeki | Jeez, recount sure does use a lot of system resources. Even while standing in Dalaran in a raid |
| 17:26.21 | Lopeppeppy | It's a hogger, for sure. |
| 17:26.41 | kneeki | But nothing beats it. At least from what I've seen |
| 17:26.47 | Lunessa | http://xkcd.com/549/ |
| 17:27.03 | Lunessa | Recount is the King of the Combat Stats AddOns. |
| 17:27.13 | Lopeppeppy | I just don't use 'em. *shrug* But yes, I hear it's the shizzle. |
| 17:27.51 | kneeki | I use them, so I know when my raid leader is about to yell at me. I can be prepared that way |
| 17:28.26 | Lopeppeppy | I've only ever run them so that I could let the raid leader yell. And I never listen anyway, so it's all good. |
| 17:28.34 | kneeki | haha |
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| 17:29.05 | Lopeppeppy | He was soooooo stats focused it made me ill. "X person was down last raid, talk to them." |
| 17:29.42 | Lopeppeppy | "What role were they playing?" "DPS/offheal". "Yeah, a holy paladin isn't going to top the damage meter on living creatures, and if they're dpsing, they're not going to top the healing meters. Buzz off." |
| 17:30.28 | kneeki | Haha |
| 17:30.36 | kneeki | Good ole shockadins ;) |
| 17:30.43 | ZorbaBeta | lope, I was in a group with a friend a while back who'd respecced from holy-priest to shadow-priest just to try it out. Our healer (an actual holy priest) complained that my friend was doing really crummy damage |
| 17:30.49 | Lunessa | I use mine mostly for comparative metrics of my own performance, but when I'm leading a raid or heroic it helps me understand why a fight is going the way it is going. |
| 17:30.59 | ZorbaBeta | he shut up when we linked the healing meters and showed that my "shadow priest DPS" friend was the only one keeping the group alive |
| 17:31.13 | Lopeppeppy | Shadow-return-heals are awesome fun. |
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| 17:31.35 | Lopeppeppy | But that's exactly why I hate meters, if you don't take into account the role people play, they just are NOT any sort of accurate picture of raid-utility. |
| 17:31.59 | Lopeppeppy | I always sucked, because I was coordinating others and not paying full attention to heal-bopping. |
| 17:33.06 | ZorbaBeta | on the other hand, *most* players have the role of "do a lot of damage to the dragon" |
| 17:33.21 | ZorbaBeta | and if that's your only role, then DPS meters are reasonably accurate |
| 17:33.30 | ZorbaBeta | (they don't show buffs usefully, unfortunately) |
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| 17:34.20 | Lunessa | For example, the last pug Naxx I tried to run, I couldn't figure out why the two healers were running out of mana every fight, and why the fights were taking so long... Recount showed me that 5 DPS were sub-1K output. Which means... they weren't ready for heroics, let alone Naxx. |
| 17:34.53 | ZorbaBeta | means they should learn how to play their class. you should be able to break 1k DPS at 80 in greens :P |
| 17:35.04 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... sometimes when you are at first saying, "these healers suck, lern2play" it's really that "these DPS aren't doing a damn thing to help out" |
| 17:35.05 | Lunessa | And it's not like the gear was bad. It was the player-skill in question. They all had 78+ blues which is all you need for the first boss in Naxx. |
| 17:35.39 | ZorbaBeta | I've heard that, when people do that, it's worth giving them basic info on the rotation they should be using |
| 17:35.42 | Lunessa | Yeah. So it's a good tool - used correctly. Can't use a hammer to turn a screw and all that. |
| 17:35.51 | ZorbaBeta | 3/4 of players will say "lol i kno how to play" |
| 17:35.58 | ZorbaBeta | 1/4 will double their DPS within fifteen minutes. |
| 17:36.32 | Lunessa | ZorbaBeta - I am not a hunter. And I'm not a destruction 'lock. All I could do was point to resources. |
| 17:36.41 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, that makes it harder |
| 17:37.22 | ZorbaBeta | I've heard from a few people that that's actually an amazing way to recruit for guilds. advertise "recruiting for 10man naxx spider wing, must not have done Naxx before, will probably wipe repeatedly", then train people on the fly |
| 17:37.28 | Lunessa | I've played most classes into the 40s or beyond, but I can't say I've played every spec, nor can I say I've raided as them all. |
| 17:37.50 | ZorbaBeta | if they're oblivious, boot 'em and recruit more. if they learn, invite them to your guild, they've probably just been scared to try the high-level content. |
| 17:38.27 | Lunessa | ZorbaBeta: That was part of my plan, but what I ended up with were lots of alts of people on that raid. And they were alts of people who couldn't go to Naxx on their mains either. /facepalm |
| 17:39.01 | Fisker- | i hate you cog|work :( |
| 17:39.05 | ZorbaBeta | well, that's when the boot-'em-and-recruit-more part comes in ;) although that only works if you come up with basic rotations and instructions for each spec |
| 17:39.14 | cog|work | Fisker-: i no |
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| 17:47.44 | Fisker- | your scary fish is scary cog|work :( |
| 17:49.18 | ZorbaBeta | ah, the fun of digging through blizzard ui files :( |
| 17:49.34 | Lopeppeppy | Why do it if it's not fun? |
| 17:49.39 | ZorbaBeta | it's kind of ironic that 3.1 is causing far more trouble for me than 3.0 did |
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| 17:49.49 | ZorbaBeta | 'cause it has to be done, and it's a gateway to things which are more fun |
| 17:50.05 | Lopeppeppy | Then get yourself a milkshake and just dooooooo eeeet, Zorba. |
| 17:50.22 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, I am, I'm just grumbling about it :) I swear they rewrote the entire quest tracker system |
| 17:50.39 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! |
| 17:50.41 | Beladona | for good reason ;D |
| 17:50.49 | Lopeppeppy | Well, boo for you, but yay overall. |
| 17:52.09 | alestane | ZorbaBeta: I'll take it, for being able to watch as many quests and acheivements as I want to. |
| 17:52.21 | ZorbaBeta | alestane, it is certainly an improvement, yeah |
| 17:53.38 | ZorbaBeta | what I don't get is why they changed the minimap compass |
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| 17:56.41 | alestane | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15211010386&sid=1 I am a popular dino lately... |
| 17:59.05 | Lopeppeppy | Breeding program a success? |
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| 18:05.38 | cog|work | :'( lost my first rare encounter |
| 18:06.59 | Lopeppeppy | *hugs for cogwheel* |
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| 18:08.20 | alestane | cog|work: I had to go through something like six rare encounters before I beat one. |
| 18:08.30 | cog|work | i lost by 1 point |
| 18:08.34 | ArrowmasterClass | ? |
| 18:08.42 | cog|work | D&D tiny adventures |
| 18:09.38 | alestane | cog|work: Now that, that makes me see the color of rage. |
| 18:10.42 | AckisWork | cog|work: I was going to make a sex joke |
| 18:11.02 | AckisWork | but you lost even with the buff from jim and I? |
| 18:11.10 | cog|work | yep |
| 18:11.14 | AckisWork | ugh |
| 18:11.23 | AckisWork | i want to get a warlord just so I can get 4 buffs |
| 18:12.03 | cog|work | d20:7, STR Bonus:+4, Buffs:+2, Total:13, Difficulty:14 |
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| 18:19.18 | Lopeppeppy | That sounds like chili, not stew. |
| 18:22.30 | Lunessa | Peppy, I was just riffing on the Male Troll /silly |
| 18:22.48 | Lunessa | And the ingredients = BBQ sauce. |
| 18:23.20 | Lopeppeppy | *hungry* |
| 18:23.25 | AckisWork | om nom nom |
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| 18:35.20 | Lunessa | BWAHAHAHA - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14697555933&sid=1#13 |
| 18:36.17 | alestane | Sadly, I think he's serious... |
| 18:36.21 | Lopeppeppy | OMFG, I seriously needed that laugh, but my office mates think I'm starkers. |
| 18:37.48 | AckisWork | so I had to go for blood tests today... and that involved peeing in a cup as well... after about 15 minutes of attempting to pee, nothing... so I waited another 45 minutes to go pee... and still nothing... why God can I not pee on demand? |
| 18:38.04 | Lunessa | AckisWork: Over-sharing. |
| 18:38.32 | AckisWork | no such thing |
| 18:39.00 | Lunessa | alestane: Of course he's serious, but... I'm telling you, his sense of entitlement and demands are hilarious. |
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| 18:40.18 | Esamynn | AckisWork: drink more water :P |
| 18:40.38 | Lopeppeppy | I was remarking on entitlement earlier, Lunessa, it freakin' STUNS me the way people whine, "I deserve this!" |
| 18:40.43 | AckisWork | Esamynn: oh but I did :( |
| 18:40.46 | Lopeppeppy | *WHAMBULANCE SIREN* |
| 18:40.47 | Esamynn | :( |
| 18:40.51 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: I DESERVE a cookie |
| 18:40.57 | Esamynn | ~cookie AckisWork |
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| 18:41.09 | Dagmar | It would be less of a problem if the forum mods hadn't lost the ability to people people in time-out from the game itself. |
| 18:41.11 | alestane | The whole concept of "deserve" is somewhat strange when you break it down. |
| 18:41.17 | Lopeppeppy | Go make one yourself, and if it gets burned I shall laugh my gnomish pigtails off. Wait. I don't wear pigtails, who did I already laugh at? |
| 18:41.37 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I have this theory, which is that most people don't really believe that other people are real. |
| 18:41.40 | Dagmar | With virtually *no* penalty for being complete arsehats on the forums, they've just become a wasteland full of idiots. |
| 18:42.24 | Esamynn | ~comfort Lopeppeppy |
| 18:42.25 | purl | There, there, Lopeppeppy. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 18:42.29 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, that's entirely half the problem. Pixels aren't real. |
| 18:42.48 | Dagmar | Lunessa: "Disinhibiting effect of Internet usage", a.k.a "Gabriel's Greater Internet F**kwad Theory" |
| 18:43.26 | Wimpsy` | How do i enable my chat when my world map is up? :) Would make it hell of a lot easier to write this map addon |
| 18:43.36 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Yes, but you see it everywhere else too. Huge numbers of people simply never take the needs or desires of others into consideration. Drive in Boston, you'll see what I mean. |
| 18:43.44 | Lunessa | Dagmar: You betcha. |
| 18:44.06 | Lunessa | Wimpsy`: Resize the world map frame. |
| 18:44.16 | alestane | Lunessa: And the only way to get anywhere is to drop consideration for them, too, and just grab or make a spot for yourself. |
| 18:44.17 | Wimpsy` | Is that it? |
| 18:44.23 | ArrowmasterClass | use mapster? |
| 18:44.35 | Wimpsy` | Aye, but i'm trying to learn. :) |
| 18:45.14 | Lunessa | alestane: Yeah, I drove in Boston. It's the same issue though. That's just the most easy to see version of it. |
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| 18:49.57 | Lopeppeppy | I'm headed off to end my day with endless meetings. See you guys over the weekend, or Monday ish ish ish. |
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| 18:53.55 | Lunessa | I've just figure it out! Lopeppeppy is Seerah! (Clak Kent is SUPERMAN!) |
| 18:54.07 | Seerah | lol |
| 18:54.22 | AckisWork | Lunessa: can u & I be batmans and robin? |
| 18:54.33 | Lunessa | You have to be Robin. |
| 18:54.35 | Seerah | am I the superhero or the alter-ego? ;) |
| 18:55.28 | Lunessa | Seerah Tough call - I mean, if Bill from KiLL Bill is right... Superman is the real person, Clark Kent is something else... |
| 18:57.43 | AckisWork | everybody... SMILLE http://i41.tinypic.com/24pb5fq.jpg :D |
| 18:59.06 | Seerah | hehe |
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| 18:59.44 | Kirov | But superman is an alien. |
| 19:00.01 | Kirov | Technically Superman and Clark Kent are both fake, really he's Ka'el |
| 19:00.36 | Kirov | Kal-El |
| 19:00.43 | Esamynn | I was gonna say ;) |
| 19:00.51 | Dagmar | ...and if you watched the TV show, superman might even be gay |
| 19:00.57 | Kirov | heh |
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| 19:02.38 | Kirov | Batman & Robin, Batman really is Batman and Bruce Wayne is the fake one (which is something that tends to come up in every movie / comic / tv show ever made on him) |
| 19:03.38 | Kirov | Robin however is just Dick Grayson, always. |
| 19:03.56 | AckisWork | it doesn't matter if superman is gay! THE SKY IS SMILING AT US http://i41.tinypic.com/24pb5fq.jpg |
| 19:04.03 | Wimpsy` | xD |
| 19:06.57 | Dagmar | Robin is dead. |
| 19:06.59 | Lunessa | You guys should try to find a copy of Larry Neiven's essay "Man of Steel Woman of Kleenex" - which addresses the issues surrounding Superman's ability to reproduce. It's a hoot. |
| 19:06.59 | Dagmar | Good riddance. |
| 19:07.10 | Lunessa | Long live Nighthawk? |
| 19:07.28 | Kirov | Dick Grayson's and Todd's Robin is dead. |
| 19:07.44 | Kirov | There's still a Robin |
| 19:07.50 | Kirov | (two, actually) |
| 19:07.56 | Dagmar | I'll stick with Dark Knight canon thanks |
| 19:09.15 | Dagmar | Sensing the discomfort of the other movie goers during the last flick made me smile |
| 19:10.19 | Kirov | I'm pretty sure Dark Knight will get a robin character at some point. |
| 19:10.47 | Kirov | Maybe not named robin, or even officially his sidekick, but someone who helps fight crime. |
| 19:11.03 | Kirov | Honestly, I kind of see a Batgirl more likely. |
| 19:11.36 | Lunessa | The thing about Super Hero movies is that once you start adding other Super Heros to the story things get kind of lame. Mostly because they lack the build up and story telling that makes the base super hero so interesting. |
| 19:11.55 | Dagmar | Like tbe Beyonder? |
| 19:12.01 | Dagmar | ...who needed help with pooping. |
| 19:12.16 | Dagmar | It ain't just movies. |
| 19:12.23 | Kirov | Lunessa - which is usually why they add them as villans, or as misplaced do-gooders that get killed off. |
| 19:12.47 | Dagmar | Lunessa: You also may never have experienced the joy that was "Peter Parker, the Amazing Emo Boy" |
| 19:12.50 | Lunessa | I mean, a Batman movie that had a cameo by Superman would SUCK. |
| 19:13.15 | Dagmar | Superman would just push the whole of Gotham into the ocean and call it a day. |
| 19:13.26 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I collected every single SpiderMan book from 1969 to 1985 before giving up collecting. |
| 19:13.39 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Then I think maybe you JUST missed it |
| 19:13.47 | Lunessa | No, I didn't. |
| 19:14.01 | Dagmar | I quit buying Spider Man when I was a kid because of the year they spent where every freaking issue was just about him mooning over his girlfriend |
| 19:14.25 | Dagmar | Like, WTF. I'm 10. I am not an emo 14 year old who might connect with that |
| 19:15.06 | Dagmar | I was of the impression that those sorts of extended storylines were only to be found in Japanese comics, or perhaps some of those girly ones |
| 19:15.57 | Lunessa | Hah. No, they were every where. Chris Clairmont did it to X-Men in the 80s and "dark heros" and "emotionally driven stories" were all the rage for a long time afterwards. |
| 19:16.49 | Dagmar | When I was that age I was starting to get chronic sinusitis and I literally *was* the kid who didn't go out much because of allergies and being sick all the time |
| 19:16.59 | Dagmar | I *still* thought he was being a whining prat |
| 19:17.21 | Dagmar | There's "emotionally driven" and there's "being a pathetic loser" |
| 19:19.05 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Yeah, I gave up on superhero comics for a long, long time. The graphic novel format basically revived my interest in comics - Miller, Moore, Keenan, etc. working in longer formats, dealing with more interesting topics than "fight of the month" and all that. |
| 19:19.30 | Dagmar | I liked the really art-intensive ones like Sandman |
| 19:19.42 | Lunessa | Watchmen, V for Vendetta, Sin City, Sandman, etc. |
| 19:19.59 | Dagmar | I had no idea what the hell the storyline was, but the painting instead of felt-tipped markers thing was pretty |
| 19:20.03 | Lunessa | The Hellboy comics/graphic novels were great too. |
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| 19:25.07 | [draco] | take care, shir.ik will come and kick you for not being on topic! |
| 19:25.52 | Lunessa | No he won't. He'll just post 20 or so lines of java questions. |
| 19:26.15 | Dagmar | Yeah, but that's Java so we can just say "I think you need more dots" |
| 19:26.16 | [draco] | maybe he'll post 20 lines and then kick you! |
| 19:26.47 | ArrowmasterClass | trying to install quakelive over a school network is fucking slow |
| 19:27.00 | Lunessa | I can't recall ever being kicked from here, though once Cairenn told me I was getting as little rude. |
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| 19:27.02 | Dagmar | Darn those firewall policies |
| 19:27.14 | ArrowmasterClass | theres no fucking firewall |
| 19:27.22 | ArrowmasterClass | im going directly out a dsl line |
| 19:27.31 | ArrowmasterClass | thats seperate from the school network |
| 19:28.14 | ArrowmasterClass | its just slow |
| 19:28.24 | Lunessa | slow is slow. |
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| 19:29.13 | Dagmar | I'm glad you clarified because I was about to ask what school district you were in and is there someone I should call to chew out by name |
| 19:30.15 | Dagmar | No school network should be operating without some sort of firewall in place. |
| 19:30.30 | Dagmar | Might as well just let people in off the street and into the locker rooms |
| 19:31.55 | amro | Dagmar: that probably happens too |
| 19:32.03 | Lunessa | Hrm... We're seriously considering mail-forwarding ... I foresee many a troubleshooting nightmare in my future. |
| 19:32.23 | Dagmar | amro: In the southeast US, not so much |
| 19:35.07 | Lunessa | Hrm - "GetWintergraspWaitTime " I expect some folks will be very happy to see this. |
| 19:35.17 | [draco] | woot |
| 19:35.19 | [draco] | yeah |
| 19:35.49 | foxlit | deprecate a lot of addons in one fel swoop! |
| 19:36.12 | [draco] | well, you still need an addon to show it |
| 19:36.25 | [draco] | like, fubar or ldb display |
| 19:36.51 | foxlit | Meh, about that. |
| 19:37.26 | foxlit | Something just needs to annotate API call returns and let you configure input/output in whatever way you want. |
| 19:37.32 | [draco] | probably 4 LoC, but still |
| 19:38.07 | foxlit | The LDB stuff comes close, but, unfortunately, it still leaves determination of what to display at the addon level. |
| 19:38.42 | [draco] | should be easy to modify any ldb addon to do just that, though |
| 19:39.08 | foxlit | If I'm in the business of modifying addons, I don't need any ldb addon. :) |
| 19:39.28 | [draco] | well, you need something to display the time |
| 19:40.26 | Lunessa | foxlit: I r teh lazy, I'll just wait for someone else to do it. |
| 19:40.41 | foxlit | Lunessa: yeah. |
| 19:41.11 | Lunessa | You going to have to massively overhaul oPie for 3.1? |
| 19:41.21 | foxlit | Actually, no. |
| 19:41.22 | foxlit | It runs. |
| 19:41.39 | foxlit | Unless they decide to start chopping at the supported API again. |
| 19:42.04 | Lunessa | Will the new animation code make things easier? |
| 19:42.33 | foxlit | No; I don't actually need it. |
| 19:42.42 | [draco] | you could modify oPie to have a display for wintergrasp timers |
| 19:42.45 | foxlit | It might make things faster. |
| 19:42.49 | [draco] | that'd be totally... |
| 19:42.52 | [draco] | I dunno. |
| 19:42.59 | [draco] | awesome, maybe. |
| 19:43.10 | Lunessa | oPie Ring - BattleGrounds! |
| 19:43.19 | foxlit | queue up for places. That could work. |
| 19:43.29 | foxlit | I'm playing with what kind of additional indication I can shove onto the icons |
| 19:44.16 | [draco] | like, estimated time when you're already queued for a BG? |
| 19:44.36 | foxlit | Like "which shapeshift form am I in?" |
| 19:44.49 | Lunessa | As much as I love oPie, I'm not actually using it anymore. I needed some other way to manage my totems. I just ended up using a second bar in Dominos that pages on modifier keys. |
| 19:44.57 | [draco] | for those people playing without graphics? |
| 19:45.42 | foxlit | [draco]: mostly for me. Can't see what presence I'm in. |
| 19:46.04 | [draco] | oh, yeah... forgot about stances -.- |
| 19:46.27 | [draco] | actually, that'd be a pretty great feature. |
| 19:46.36 | foxlit | Looks awkward so far -- LBF has a constant checked highlight color. |
| 19:47.10 | [draco] | how are you displaying that? in that middle circle? |
| 19:47.38 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/opie/images/shots/scale.jpg |
| 19:48.06 | foxlit | Icons in the middle of the circle are tiny :/ |
| 19:48.37 | [draco] | should be big enough to recognize the stance icon, imo |
| 19:49.16 | foxlit | sec |
| 19:49.23 | Beladona | I tried to use oPie for totems too. I found it took me longer to trigger a totem versus just having a totem bar |
| 19:49.43 | [draco] | wouldn't wanna use oPie for anything time critical |
| 19:49.52 | [draco] | but it's great for ooc stuff |
| 19:50.13 | foxlit | just trigger the ring when you're casting something else |
| 19:50.20 | Beladona | thats a shame though. It would be nice to have it set a default action used when the hotkey is double-clicked or something |
| 19:50.50 | Tekkub | a double keyboard click, or mouse? |
| 19:50.58 | Beladona | it doesn't work that way when you are click-casting, and trying to cast totems between heals |
| 19:51.07 | Beladona | you invariably end up getting the wrong totem |
| 19:51.19 | Tekkub | detecting doubleclicks in wow is such a mess |
| 19:51.33 | Tekkub | it still fires the onclick too |
| 19:51.34 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/content/store/tiny.png |
| 19:51.51 | ArrowmasterClass | Tekkub: it does? |
| 19:52.04 | Beladona | I will say though. That oPie is a very innovative usability enhancement |
| 19:52.10 | Tekkub | every time I've tried it has, I gave up on doubleclicks completely |
| 19:52.11 | Beladona | and I love the idea behind it |
| 19:52.21 | Beladona | its one of my favorites, despite the fact that I don't use it |
| 19:52.47 | Tekkub | oPie is one of those wonderful in theory addons |
| 19:52.54 | Beladona | yup |
| 19:53.09 | Tekkub | just like sprocket was before it :) |
| 19:53.12 | Beladona | I am all for usability that doesn't use screen real-estate |
| 19:53.29 | Tekkub | popbars! |
| 19:54.01 | Tekkub | someday I should publish tekPopbar... but.. motivation |
| 19:54.20 | [draco] | tekpopbar? like autobar but actually functional? |
| 19:54.54 | Tekkub | it's my replacement for the actionbars |
| 19:55.07 | Tekkub | I'll never do something like autobar, I have Buffet for that |
| 19:55.52 | [draco] | uh, nice. |
| 19:56.21 | [draco] | I wonder why everyone releases a bar addon, though |
| 19:56.32 | [draco] | there's already over 9000 of 'em |
| 19:56.33 | Tekkub | basically it's all 120 buttons (or fewer if you're a stancebar class) condensed into one horizontal and one vertical bar |
| 19:56.38 | foxlit | indic:GetCheckedTexture():SetVertexColor(r or 1,g or 1,b or 1); |
| 19:56.50 | Lunessa | Tekkub: Umm... DO WANT |
| 19:56.50 | foxlit | ... except for that texture just has to be blue :/ |
| 19:56.51 | Tekkub | it's nothing like the other 8999 bars |
| 19:57.27 | [draco] | so it's 120 buttons on a line |
| 19:57.33 | Tekkub | no, it's 12 |
| 19:57.51 | Tekkub | Lunessa, sec |
| 19:57.57 | [draco] | with popups a 10 buttons? |
| 19:57.57 | foxlit | XMB |
| 19:59.11 | ArrowmasterClass | oh god the lag |
| 19:59.12 | foxlit | Can I discard the hue information from a texture entirely? |
| 19:59.19 | foxlit | And then set my own hue on top? |
| 19:59.20 | ArrowmasterClass | ok quakelive inside vmware does not work |
| 20:01.35 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: Playing it on your macbook throuvh vmware fusion? |
| 20:01.49 | ArrowmasterClass | no |
| 20:02.21 | Tekkub | [draco], http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3373/3313975341_5a96215e8d_b.jpg |
| 20:02.27 | ArrowmasterClass | dont have admin access on school vista computers |
| 20:02.37 | Tekkub | the main bar does the usual stances and possession/vehicle of course |
| 20:03.00 | Tekkub | and it also lets you mousewheel over the main button to rotate the buttons around |
| 20:03.14 | [draco] | nice |
| 20:03.25 | Tekkub | so you could put all your traps on one thing, the default on the mainbar, and rotate to the one you need in special cases |
| 20:03.41 | Tekkub | but it doesn't change the actual actions, so it resets back when you log in again |
| 20:04.01 | foxlit | So you hardcode groupable spell ids? |
| 20:04.24 | Tekkub | it's not spells, it's the normal actions |
| 20:04.26 | Tekkub | 1-120 |
| 20:04.38 | foxlit | Yes, but how do you know what to scroll through. |
| 20:04.51 | foxlit | Nevermind :) |
| 20:04.52 | Tekkub | you scroll through the actions on the flyout |
| 20:05.20 | foxlit | static amount of slots per slot? |
| 20:05.27 | Tekkub | yes |
| 20:05.51 | Tekkub | 6 on the right, 4 on the main |
| 20:06.00 | Tekkub | fewer on the right if you're a stancebar class |
| 20:06.36 | Lunessa | Interesting. |
| 20:09.42 | Tekkub | Lunessa, http://github.com/tekkub/tekpopbar/tree/master |
| 20:09.53 | Tekkub | it is tailored for my n52 setup, mind you |
| 20:10.22 | Tekkub | possession bar remaps so that the actions are under the keys I use most |
| 20:10.25 | Lunessa | Yeah, I might hack it some. Your ideas intrigue me, and I am subscribing to your newsletter. |
| 20:11.04 | Tekkub | I need to look, did they fix the secure animation thing to do a delayed hide in 3.0.9? |
| 20:11.32 | alestane | Tekkub: The mechanism for that is expected to change completely before 3.1 goes live. |
| 20:12.14 | Tekkub | yea I know |
| 20:12.30 | Lunessa | Tekkub: LOL - " Create mah buttons!" |
| 20:12.37 | Tekkub | maybe I'll reconsider releasing after 3.1 |
| 20:13.17 | Wimpsy` | Tekkub |
| 20:13.22 | Wimpsy` | can i see how it looks on github? |
| 20:13.39 | Tekkub | scroll your lazy ass up |
| 20:13.49 | alestane | I don't believe the existing mechanism has been fixed for current PTR builds, but the replacement framework should be available while we're still on the PTR. |
| 20:13.54 | Lunessa | I'm reading the code right now. Tekky uses comments that makes sense. Unlike most of us. |
| 20:14.05 | Wimpsy` | i know *how* it looks, but is there any picture? :P |
| 20:14.12 | [draco] | does that make him a better human being? |
| 20:14.19 | Wimpsy` | I've been following this convo for a while hehe ^_^ |
| 20:14.20 | Tekkub | I *try* to write code that explains itself as you read it :) |
| 20:14.42 | Tekkub | Wimpsy`, scroll farther |
| 20:14.50 | Wimpsy` | Oh |
| 20:15.01 | Wimpsy` | Aha! |
| 20:15.04 | [draco] | I try to do that as well... reading that code some weeks later usually gives me the creeps |
| 20:15.10 | Wimpsy` | Sorry, that was the part where i was afk. :) |
| 20:15.13 | Wimpsy` | Looks really nice |
| 20:15.38 | Tekkub | [draco], write better code then :P |
| 20:15.46 | [draco] | yeah |
| 20:15.50 | Lunessa | [draco]: No, means he writes code and leaves himself notes for figuring it out 3 months later. |
| 20:16.19 | Tekkub | comments should only be needed to explain odd bits, if you write the code with the intent of it being readable |
| 20:16.43 | Tekkub | i.e., not rowne's old "one-letter variables for everyone!" bellshit |
| 20:16.44 | [draco] | ^ |
| 20:16.56 | Tekkub | s/bell/bull/ |
| 20:17.11 | Lunessa | Once, I wrote this huge block of code for a previous employer, 2 years later, I needed to make changes; when reading the code I was like, "what moron wrote THAT? It's F'ing stupid!" Then I saw my name in the header and /bitchslapped myself. |
| 20:17.20 | [draco] | I can figure out what my code does, no problem... I usually just wonder why I did it that way |
| 20:17.52 | [draco] | probably comes with coding only once every month or so |
| 20:18.04 | Tekkub | Lunessa, git-blame is a bitch |
| 20:18.23 | Lunessa | Haha. |
| 20:18.26 | Lunessa | I bet. |
| 20:19.05 | foxlit | I don't need git-blame :( |
| 20:19.11 | Tekkub | I love when client asks me to add feature, I add it, he comes back bitching that I broke such and such, and I can prove that not only was it someone else that broke it, but that it's broken on production right now |
| 20:19.42 | Tekkub | and then he makes me fix it anyway |
| 20:19.43 | selckin | i did that, they got mad at me even more |
| 20:19.50 | jnwhiteh | I dont have enough gold to add dual talent specs on eu ptr |
| 20:19.54 | jnwhiteh | anyone able to help me out? |
| 20:19.58 | jnwhiteh | I want to be able to test Clique wiht it |
| 20:20.07 | Tekkub | jnwhiteh, sure come on over to usptr |
| 20:20.13 | jnwhiteh | poop-face |
| 20:20.15 | Lunessa | foxlit: There's a reason none of my code is released in the wild. A) I make a fuckload of mistakes, B) I don't need to hear the bitching about A). |
| 20:20.17 | selckin | brill? |
| 20:20.51 | Wimpsy` | jnwhiteh: I would, but ptr ain't working for me. :( |
| 20:21.00 | Tekkub | clique auot-profile-swap sounds cool in theory, but I have my clicks so engrained in my brain I don't think I'd want them changing |
| 20:21.12 | jnwhiteh | it'd probably be an option |
| 20:21.20 | jnwhiteh | but your spells and everything changes wen you do it |
| 20:21.22 | jnwhiteh | so its reasonable. |
| 20:21.28 | Tekkub | they're the same on both my healers, big heal here, fast heal here, ohshit there, decurses over nya |
| 20:21.49 | Tekkub | yea it's certainly reasonable, and I'm sure many will use it |
| 20:22.02 | Tekkub | just saying, I go for consistancy in my setups :) |
| 20:22.05 | foxlit | hm, why do Cooldown animations flicker? |
| 20:22.28 | Lunessa | Yes, it is. I don't understand the people who want different bindings for PVP vs PVE - I mean... how much different are your spells in that case? Why not learn a single, consistent set of bindings? Or am I just nuts? |
| 20:22.38 | Tifi | apparently they're in the process of breaking cooldowns |
| 20:22.48 | Tifi | they already succeeded on ati video cards |
| 20:22.59 | Tekkub | I can see changing them if, say, my ohshit is different depending on spec |
| 20:23.00 | Wimpsy` | Hardcore Superstar - The Last Great Day, Now go listen to this awesomesauce song! \o/ |
| 20:23.16 | Tekkub | but yea, my playstyle doesn't vary much |
| 20:23.17 | foxlit | It seems that if I just cause them to resize, they become whacky. |
| 20:23.22 | Tekkub | if I'm healing, I'm healing |
| 20:23.52 | foxlit | And then come back :/ |
| 20:24.31 | foxlit | Yeah, it's positioning :/ |
| 20:25.16 | Lunessa | Tekkub: In Sidebar.lua you don't include options for hunters, paladins, or death knights for the "class bar" - don't need them? |
| 20:25.28 | Lunessa | NM... I figured it out. |
| 20:26.24 | Tekkub | they don't have stancebars :P |
| 20:26.50 | Lunessa | They have those pseudo things. I figured it out a little further in. |
| 20:26.54 | Lunessa | "-- State header, god I hate this shit" |
| 20:27.05 | Wimpsy` | Tekkub: Death Knight's don't have stancebars? :o |
| 20:27.13 | Tekkub | no, they don't |
| 20:27.16 | Wimpsy` | cool |
| 20:27.23 | Lunessa | They have buttons, but no stances. |
| 20:27.37 | Wimpsy` | i see. :) |
| 20:27.38 | Tekkub | "presences" |
| 20:27.44 | Wimpsy` | You learn something new every day! |
| 20:28.04 | Wimpsy` | Aye, i thought those presences were on the stance bar :P |
| 20:28.19 | Tekkub | I'm sure that was very intentional, they didn't want to imply specific roles to the specs by making stancebars change |
| 20:28.20 | Lunessa | Tekkub: I like it. I would have to hack it for my own style, but it looks very wicked cool. |
| 20:28.49 | Tekkub | Lunessa, come 3.1 if I can get the delayed-hide working I might be bribed to release it |
| 20:29.15 | Tekkub | I'd move the n52 stuff out into my own local branch |
| 20:29.39 | Tekkub | unless you want to take it and run with it, add real options and all that |
| 20:30.01 | Lunessa | Meh, I'm lazy. I might, but I'd just send it back to you. |
| 20:30.51 | Tekkub | some way to move the bars is mainly what I need to add |
| 20:30.57 | Tekkub | I just hardcoded them for myself |
| 20:31.06 | Tekkub | removing the n52 bits is easy enough |
| 20:31.31 | ArrowmasterClass | ahaha |
| 20:31.54 | ArrowmasterClass | the topic of 2girls1cup and meatspin came up in my class |
| 20:32.10 | NeoTron | Tekkub: rumor has it your tourguide is really a gold farming spyware app. what do you have to say to defend yourself?! |
| 20:32.13 | NeoTron | heh |
| 20:32.20 | Lunessa | Yeah, and I'd want to add ButtonFacade support. |
| 20:32.38 | NeoTron | ArrowmasterClass: what kind of class? |
| 20:32.42 | Tekkub | NeoTron, don't use it, fuck off :P |
| 20:32.43 | Lunessa | Tourguide is luff. |
| 20:32.47 | NeoTron | ArrowmasterClass: and what about tubgirl!? |
| 20:32.59 | durcyn | NeoTron: not to mention eels.gif |
| 20:33.08 | NeoTron | I believe I've missed eels.gif |
| 20:33.13 | NeoTron | and I am probably lucky |
| 20:33.16 | durcyn | you are. |
| 20:33.27 | AckisWork | cog|work: do you play scavenger hunt? |
| 20:33.30 | ArrowmasterClass | NeoTron: network security class |
| 20:34.51 | ArrowmasterClass | discussing cookies and the teacher brought up the local fire departent that got caught browsing porn during work hours by tracking cookies on the computer |
| 20:35.11 | ArrowmasterClass | apparently 2girls1cup was one of the cookies |
| 20:35.38 | AckisWork | wow they visited my home page? wicked |
| 20:37.01 | Wimpsy` | ArrowmasterClass: I wouldn't call that porn ._. |
| 20:37.20 | haste | what about 1guy1cup? |
| 20:37.26 | Wimpsy` | 1guy1jar? :P |
| 20:37.30 | Wimpsy` | aye that's a good one haste, hehe |
| 20:37.42 | haste | he doesn't flinch... |
| 20:37.47 | Wimpsy` | it's so odd >_< |
| 20:38.10 | Wimpface | Realized i can have different names on different IRC servers! :) |
| 20:38.23 | ArrowmasterClass | oh there was much more other stuff |
| 20:38.24 | haste | that's just confusing~ |
| 20:38.47 | Wimpface | Well not really |
| 20:40.20 | Adys | Maldivia: http://addsanddishes.blogspot.com/2009/02/wdbc-parser-playing-nicer.html \o/ |
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| 20:42.36 | Lunessa | haste: You're creeping me out. Just, ewww. |
| 20:43.16 | haste | curiosity backfired I see |
| 20:43.42 | Wimpface | haste: Haha :P |
| 20:44.12 | Lunessa | haste: No, I just have a very active imagination and the source material led to an intuitive leap... and well, *squick* |
| 20:46.08 | haste | ^^ |
| 20:48.52 | Elly | is there a list of undocumented API functions somewhere? I can see at least a few of them. |
| 20:48.58 | Adys | wowprogramming.com |
| 20:49.50 | Elly | this doesn't list at least one function that I can see in the binary |
| 20:50.12 | jnwhiteh | huh? |
| 20:50.17 | jnwhiteh | the binary is different |
| 20:50.28 | jnwhiteh | wowprogramming.com lists every single function available |
| 20:50.34 | jnwhiteh | it is current up to the live servers |
| 20:50.48 | Elly | right, and the WoW.exe binary has more lua functions in it which are not listed there |
| 20:50.54 | jnwhiteh | so? |
| 20:51.01 | jnwhiteh | those function are not available to us |
| 20:51.03 | Elly | oh |
| 20:51.07 | Elly | we just can't call them at all? |
| 20:51.14 | AckisWork | wow jnwhiteh way to not list functions not available to us |
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| 20:51.16 | Syzgyn | try, see what happens |
| 20:51.18 | jnwhiteh | They do not exist as far as we are concerned. |
| 20:51.25 | jnwhiteh | Elly: Name one such function |
| 20:51.32 | Elly | so if I call, e.g., RequestRealmSplitInfo() |
| 20:51.34 | Elly | what happens? |
| 20:51.47 | jnwhiteh | lua> RequestRealmSplitInfo() |
| 20:51.48 | lua_bot | jnwhiteh: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'RequestRealmSplitInfo' (a nil value) |
| 20:51.49 | jnwhiteh | ^^ that |
| 20:51.50 | jnwhiteh | exactly. |
| 20:51.54 | jnwhiteh | the function does not exist |
| 20:51.56 | Elly | hm |
| 20:52.00 | alestane | There are no references to them in the Lua environment used to run add-ons, is what I think jnwhiteh is saying. |
| 20:52.05 | Elly | ah, okay |
| 20:52.07 | nevcairiel | GlueXML is bad for you, hmkay? |
| 20:52.12 | jnwhiteh | its available in the DEBUG client, possibly |
| 20:52.15 | Elly | but blizzard's code runs in a different environment? |
| 20:52.17 | jnwhiteh | its available in the GM client, possibly. |
| 20:52.17 | AckisWork | jnwhiteh: question: if I make a global function called RequestRealmSplitInfo() do I bugger up stuffz? |
| 20:52.21 | alestane | Our _G doesn't contain them. |
| 20:52.29 | jnwhiteh | AckisWork: no, chuck norris dies |
| 20:52.41 | AckisWork | jnwhiteh: ohh, I know when I make _ a global stuff breaks :D |
| 20:53.08 | nevcairiel | unless people fail at coding, even a _ global should not matter |
| 20:53.26 | Elly | can we also not call ReadFile? because ReadFile is listed on wowprogramming.com and marked 'Internal' |
| 20:53.29 | AckisWork | that's what I thought |
| 20:53.38 | jnwhiteh | It's a NOOP in our world. |
| 20:53.39 | Adys | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/26/colbert-1997-flashback-in_n_170083.html |
| 20:53.40 | Adys | awesome |
| 20:53.41 | nevcairiel | Elly: guess what internal means! :) |
| 20:53.42 | AckisWork | but it still broke stuff when I globaled it on accident |
| 20:53.46 | jnwhiteh | There's a reason I keep this documentation up-to-date |
| 20:53.57 | AckisWork | internal is where nev wants me |
| 20:53.59 | AckisWork | keke |
| 20:54.02 | Elly | jnwhiteh: noop but defined, as opposed to not defined at all? |
| 20:54.12 | jnwhiteh | if its listed on that page, it's defined. |
| 20:54.26 | Elly | ah, it looks like it returns "Access Denied" |
| 20:54.44 | jnwhiteh | or something |
| 20:54.47 | jnwhiteh | the page is accurate |
| 20:54.53 | jnwhiteh | much as you seem to disagree :P |
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| 20:55.41 | laeg | when i try to join a bg it's not putting me in the queue, and i don't have deserter status, any idea which mod could be causing this? |
| 20:55.48 | Elly | I don't disagree. |
| 20:55.55 | KarlKFI | you just did |
| 20:56.08 | KarlKFI | :P |
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| 20:56.39 | Elly | where? |
| 20:56.52 | KarlKFI | just teasing you. chill |
| 20:57.29 | Elly | ah, okay :) |
| 20:59.05 | Adys | laeg: at a guess, the 7th one on the list |
| 20:59.07 | cog|work | AckisWork: not yet... |
| 20:59.46 | AckisWork | zomg cog|work it's teh bestestestest game ever... you go to pages... and click stuff... and find stuff... rinse and repeat |
| 21:00.58 | AckisWork | you're TOTALLY invited dude like way cool stuff wowowowow |
| 21:01.31 | foxlit | the wowi submission queue should so include free functional testing :) |
| 21:02.12 | KarlKFI | lol |
| 21:02.34 | Lunessa | Oh hell no Ackis. |
| 21:02.35 | KarlKFI | go invent some lUnits |
| 21:02.54 | AckisWork | Lunessa: dooo iitttt!! |
| 21:03.03 | Lunessa | No. And you can't make me., |
| 21:03.17 | AckisWork | ur already made and what a mess! ZING |
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| 21:05.47 | AckisWork | Lunessa: I didn't mean it... I was just joking... I still love you!!! |
| 21:06.07 | Lunessa | No heals for you! |
| 21:06.13 | AckisWork | I'm a priest... |
| 21:07.37 | AckisWork | (not very good speaking of which wtb guild which will run me through 10/25 man naxx/OS/maly to get the achivements/mount drops PST |
| 21:08.14 | nevcairiel | you should not mention that you suck in the same sentence as your request |
| 21:09.20 | AckisWork | I was hoping for sympathy nev |
| 21:09.38 | AckisWork | like "omg ackis you're suck a super guy, and your mods are the bestest ever, come on over!" |
| 21:11.05 | Lunessa | Nah, but if you Xfer to Kirin Tor we'll put up with you in Grounding Totem. |
| 21:11.15 | Lunessa | Oh yeah, Alliance side... bitches. |
| 21:11.30 | AckisWork | meh imma troll |
| 21:11.54 | Lunessa | yeah, see? Doesn't work for me. |
| 21:12.16 | Dagmar | Whoa |
| 21:12.26 | AckisWork | I'm sorry you're the wrong faction, but you weren't quite what I was looking for ;) |
| 21:12.28 | Dagmar | Wait... the coliseum isn't going to be a PvP thing? |
| 21:12.36 | AckisWork | (PS: accept the scavenger hunt thingy) |
| 21:16.28 | cog|work | AckisWork: i don't get it... it said something should've appeared on my profile for me to find but i can't find it |
| 21:16.51 | AckisWork | cog|work: http://apps.facebook.com/scavenge/profiles.php |
| 21:17.08 | AckisWork | i think you have to manually add it to your profile otherwise |
| 21:17.21 | cog|work | ah |
| 21:18.00 | Dagmar | Sweet. My very own Hobby Horse http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/february/argent_tournament_9626_7.jpg |
| 21:18.16 | Dagmar | Is it too late, do you think, to carp at the devs for that to get ANY other model on it? |
| 21:18.31 | Tekkub | looks like a dragon, not a horse |
| 21:18.37 | Tekkub | or at least, a firebreathing horse |
| 21:19.26 | AckisWork | imo there needs to be a news post on mmo about my request for a guild :P |
| 21:19.29 | Dagmar | It's still a hobby horse |
| 21:20.21 | Dagmar | http://www.worldwideshoppingmall.co.uk/toys/images/products/JC6050961.gif |
| 21:22.46 | Tekkub | DRAGON! |
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| 21:24.21 | AckisWork | Dragon Horse? |
| 21:28.09 | Dagmar | Yes, I did just post to the PTR forum about it |
| 21:28.21 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/sony_releases_new_stupid_piece_of |
| 21:28.30 | Dagmar | I don't think they really saw that one coming, but I'm certain I won't be the only person to notice: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443245718&postId=154418464598&sid=1#0 |
| 21:30.46 | Dagmar | I would like to say that if they moved the ears on it to the sides it would look more like a dragon, but that would also make it look more like a hobby horse, which is the problem. |
| 21:30.54 | Dagmar | It just looks like a flaming, epic hobby horse. |
| 21:32.59 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: That was brilliant. |
| 21:34.54 | Tifi | someone with photoshop skills please make a version of http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/february/argent_tournament_9626_7.jpg with that hobby horse |
| 21:37.02 | Pneumatus | 630 armor for hunters is srs bsnss |
| 21:41.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: the onion usually is ;) |
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| 21:41.37 | Lunessa | <3 the onion, srsly |
| 21:43.35 | Adys | Why Slutty Capitalization Sucks Really Hard |
| 21:43.36 | Adys | http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/27/1241257&from=rss |
| 21:43.50 | Adys | had to read the article 3 times to see if they were talking of steve jobs or of employment |
| 21:44.45 | selckin | just means ppl have more time to code on open source. |
| 21:44.46 | selckin | =) |
| 21:45.24 | Adys | and then i read the comments |
| 21:45.40 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_case#Headings_and_publication_titles |
| 21:45.43 | Adys | OH MY GOD KILL ME NOW |
| 21:47.02 | nevcairiel | ~kill Adys |
| 21:47.03 | purl | ACTION shoots a super-inverse pseudoquark gun at Adys |
| 21:47.09 | Adys | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 21:47.09 | purl | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps nevcairiel |
| 21:48.24 | amro | Adys: you aksed for it. |
| 21:48.31 | Wimpface | Hmm, anyone know how to solve this? I've resized WorldMapDetailsFrame, and tried to resize WorldMapFrame but it won't resize itself. ;( |
| 21:48.32 | Wimpface | http://www2.picfront.org/picture/uTj7J0bP8D9/img/WorldMapBug.jpg |
| 21:48.33 | Adys | ~lart amro |
| 21:48.33 | purl | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at amro |
| 21:48.50 | Wimpface | Does look a bit shitty aye? :( |
| 21:49.08 | Adys | Wimpface: check line 788 of your code |
| 21:49.18 | Wimpface | 788? :O |
| 21:49.44 | nevcairiel | definately |
| 21:49.59 | Adys | http://www.d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.com/ |
| 21:49.59 | Wimpface | in my worldmap.lua i only have 33 lines ._. |
| 21:50.00 | Adys | Sorry |
| 21:50.06 | Adys | I like being a jerk before going to bed |
| 21:50.09 | Adys | good night |
| 21:50.13 | Wimpface | :( |
| 21:50.21 | Wimpface | night |
| 21:51.13 | Wimpface | Does anyone know how to solve that issue? |
| 21:51.15 | NeoTron | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/15443415619-belly-shirts-are-awesome.html now that's some good stuff |
| 21:51.58 | nevcairiel | Wonder when zarhym will respond |
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| 21:59.26 | Thunder_Child | looks like i beat you Shirik |
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| 22:07.49 | Hirsute-Home | Woohoo! |
| 22:08.23 | Hirsute-Home | Per the discussion in here the other day: ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter: The paramters that are passed to the filter function you provide. have change from (arg1) to (ChatFrameSelf, event, arg1-arg11) the filter function also has to now return arg1-arg11 instead of just arg1 |
| 22:09.36 | devZero | ow, my liver |
| 22:09.55 | Hirsute-Home | Lots of drinking? |
| 22:09.57 | Hirsute-Home | >.> |
| 22:10.14 | devZero | I don't remember much |
| 22:10.26 | devZero | I do however remember druunken runs of HoL |
| 22:10.34 | Hirsute-Home | Heh |
| 22:12.49 | Lunessa | HoL is a good place for drunkenness. The room with all the globes ought be be a blast when you're... blasted. |
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| 22:17.05 | AckisWork | alert: i just found out that the arena tourney needs 3 people to play not 2!! ahh |
| 22:20.22 | Thunder_Child | hmm...End War's voice command feature is a bit iffy |
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| 22:24.39 | foxlit | teehee |
| 22:24.47 | foxlit | people with vehicle mounts whining that they're no longer vehicles |
| 22:25.00 | AckisWork | if someone is born in 1989, am I going to go to jail for oogling? |
| 22:25.19 | Stanzilla | no |
| 22:25.25 | foxlit | I can most certainly assure you that someone was born in 1989 |
| 22:25.51 | zenzelezz | foxlit: SS or it didn't happen |
| 22:26.03 | zenzelezz | besides, what's wrong about oogling a 20-year-old? |
| 22:26.14 | Arrowmaster | Ackis cant do math |
| 22:26.59 | AckisWork | zenzelezz: 1989 is a 20 year old? holy shit i'm old |
| 22:27.25 | Arrowmaster | 19 or 20 |
| 22:27.35 | AckisWork | either way I'm old |
| 22:27.40 | AckisWork | everyone call me Mr Ackis now |
| 22:27.51 | foxlit | meh |
| 22:27.53 | foxlit | Grandpa Ackis! |
| 22:27.55 | zenzelezz | Old Man Ackis (with the snakes) |
| 22:28.10 | Lunessa | I'm older still. :P |
| 22:28.12 | Fisker- | why so young AckisWork ? |
| 22:28.18 | Arrowmaster | Wimpface: theres nothing wrong with learning by example, take a look at mapster |
| 22:29.03 | AckisWork | 1989, I think I got my first suspension from school that year |
| 22:29.13 | foxlit | Wow, that is a really long backreference :/ |
| 22:29.18 | foxlit | Had to scroll up, qq! |
| 22:29.24 | Adys | Update: Alright, all -- we're going to make the cooldown on hearthstones 30 minutes when 3.1.0 releases. Enjoy your sweet victory. |
| 22:29.27 | Shirik | :( |
| 22:29.28 | Adys | fun |
| 22:29.35 | AckisWork | Adys: lol old news is old |
| 22:29.35 | Shirik | thought* |
| 22:29.42 | Adys | I'm a mage |
| 22:29.45 | Adys | I dont give a shit about HS |
| 22:29.48 | Shirik | long backreference is like \1234567890 |
| 22:30.15 | foxlit | Meh, I have a feeling that nothing practical would allow you to define that many captures. |
| 22:30.53 | foxlit | "OPie *Pending" << slackers :) |
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| 22:33.05 | foxlit | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/are_violent_video_games adequately preparing children for the apocalypse? |
| 22:34.16 | Shirik | foxlit: I have no idea what you're talking about |
| 22:34.20 | Shirik | OPie isn't pending |
| 22:34.47 | foxlit | Of course not. I assume you had nothing to do with it, too :) |
| 22:35.12 | batrick | wow... does InteractUnit() do what I think it does?? |
| 22:35.18 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 22:35.22 | Arrowmaster | and its protected |
| 22:35.44 | batrick | protected as in, only ooc and only with a hardware event? |
| 22:35.48 | foxlit | I vote we coin a new word for functions that aren't callable by addons, ever. |
| 22:35.59 | Arrowmaster | only blizzard code im guessing |
| 22:36.00 | foxlit | batrick: protected as in "get stuffed". |
| 22:36.22 | Arrowmaster | but there is a keybinding |
| 22:36.22 | batrick | well that's super lame |
| 22:37.53 | Shirik | you're super lame! |
| 22:38.00 | NightHawkTheSane | your MOM's super lame. |
| 22:38.05 | batrick | no u r! |
| 22:39.33 | Thunder_Child | heh "fuck off code" |
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| 22:40.21 | p3lim | What will the new toc number be? |
| 22:40.25 | NightHawkTheSane | 30100 |
| 22:40.28 | p3lim | thanks |
| 22:40.57 | NightHawkTheSane | in the future, all interface numbers, including those on the PTR can be found here: http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 22:41.27 | foxlit | They're predictable, too |
| 22:41.48 | Thunder_Child | so major x/00/00 minor 0/xx/00 otheroneicantremember 0/00/xx ? |
| 22:42.04 | foxlit | the last two generally aren't used |
| 22:42.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont think we've ever.... what foxlit said |
| 22:42.19 | foxlit | 30003 |
| 22:42.20 | foxlit | er |
| 22:42.21 | foxlit | 20003 |
| 22:42.43 | Thunder_Child | incremental...damn, now i want to remember the term |
| 22:44.39 | AckisWork | I can't wait for toc 9001 |
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| 22:44.57 | Thunder_Child | thats only 4 digits |
| 22:45.08 | AckisWork | shhh |
| 22:47.47 | zenzelezz | they used 4-digit TOC numbers up till 1.10, didn't they? Or was it some other patch that they changed it |
| 22:48.39 | foxlit | zenzelezz: 10900 is the first one google finds |
| 22:48.44 | Thunder_Child | it really should be 6 numbers however |
| 22:48.48 | AckisWork | way to ruin my joke |
| 22:48.49 | AckisWork | thanks everyone |
| 22:48.54 | AckisWork | thanks a lot |
| 22:48.56 | Thunder_Child | we try AckisWork |
| 22:49.04 | Thunder_Child | and we are damn good at it |
| 22:49.07 | zenzelezz | foxlit: ah, sounds right now that you mention it |
| 22:49.14 | Lunessa | Get better jokes. |
| 22:49.42 | AckisWork | Lunessa: no |
| 22:49.56 | Lunessa | A perfectly valid response. |
| 22:50.25 | AckisWork | yes |
| 22:50.29 | AckisWork | my jokes are teh best |
| 22:51.25 | Lunessa | Delusional, you is it. |
| 22:51.42 | AckisWork | negatory |
| 22:52.48 | Thunder_Child | fail, to speak like yoda you do, Lunessa |
| 22:52.58 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: I was lolcat |
| 22:53.26 | Thunder_Child | that would make sense then |
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| 22:56.46 | Lunessa | In there you must go. Strong is this place with the Dark Side. |
| 22:57.50 | KarlKFI | 10900 was the first one yes |
| 22:58.00 | KarlKFI | so they could do 11000 the next time |
| 22:59.05 | Lunessa | Later everyone. |
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| 23:07.59 | NightHawkTheSane | http://notalwaysright.com/all-games-rated-d-for-delicious/1608 |
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| 23:10.25 | Fisker- | fake |
| 23:12.11 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:12.23 | NeoTron | I believe no one is stupid enough to think that a microwave would work as a tv |
| 23:12.30 | NeoTron | it's just not possible |
| 23:12.43 | Thunder_Child | you believe wrong sir |
| 23:12.56 | Dagmar | All I get on mine is the Exploding Hamster show |
| 23:13.02 | Thunder_Child | there is stupidity you can not even conceive of |
| 23:13.08 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: it may be fake, but i certainly don't doubt people can be that stupid. |
| 23:13.17 | Dagmar | Stupid, no. Senile, possibly. |
| 23:21.37 | Tifi | and as we all know, most senile people are avid gamers |
| 23:22.29 | foxlit | Wonder why they used this PTR mechanic rather than the old alternative |
| 23:22.48 | Tifi | what do you mean? |
| 23:22.49 | foxlit | (3.0.1 installer -> 0.1.0 patch rather than 3.0.x->0.1.0 directly) |
| 23:23.16 | Dagmar | Oh because the PTR code wasn't in lockstep with release when it opened |
| 23:23.38 | Dagmar | ...and it looks like it clones your live install, so it has to downgrade it a bit first (looks like) |
| 23:23.56 | foxlit | it has to clone your old install anyway |
| 23:24.33 | Wimpface | Hah, doing For The Horde achievement on a level 9 |
| 23:24.42 | Wimpface | Got Storming Stormwind so far. :) |
| 23:25.12 | foxlit | "There's only one answer: Underneath the adorable, penguin-laden exterior of Prinny: Can I Really Be The Hero? is a heartless, bloodthirsty, unforgiving beast of a game that wants to grind your soul into itty bitty pieces and then vomit them back at you." |
| 23:25.19 | NeoTron | http://notalwaysright.com/theyre-starting-to-catch-on/1596 that one on the other hand was pretty win |
| 23:25.21 | Aqua | inherits="ActionButtonTemplate,SecureActionButtonTemplate" I don't have to do the Inherit ActionButtonTemplate do i? |
| 23:25.27 | foxlit | Who makes up those metaphors |
| 23:27.06 | foxlit | you don't *have* to inherit anything. |
| 23:27.12 | foxlit | You may want to inherit something, however. |
| 23:27.34 | Aqua | i'm trying to make an extra row of action bar buttons, that i can use to access the higher actionbar id's |
| 23:28.12 | Aqua | i was just gonna inherit secureactionbuttontemplate and work from there, but I was wondering if i'm going to get a stupid error if i inherit actionbuttontemplate |
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| 23:29.33 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 23:32.10 | foxlit | secureactionbuttontemplate has no visual elements, but has everything you need to set up a button that'd perform an action when clicked |
| 23:32.18 | foxlit | actionbuttontemplate handles the UI side, iirc. |
| 23:32.30 | Aqua | gotcha |
| 23:36.03 | Hirsute-Home | Anyone play a druid? |
| 23:37.49 | Lopeppeppy | Only a baby one, level 55 |
| 23:38.13 | Nechckn | what of the druid types, Hirsute-Home? |
| 23:38.16 | Hirsute-Home | Does it show the "Increases Feral AP" line for all weapons, even those a druid can't use? |
| 23:39.16 | Taladris | Yeah, it does |
| 23:39.34 | Hirsute-Home | Okay. |
| 23:39.36 | Hirsute-Home | Thanks! |
| 23:40.17 | Hirsute-Home | Had a guy who thought it was the result of something an addon was doing. |
| 23:41.24 | KarlKFI | that's how you can tell the game has too many exceptions |
| 23:41.37 | KarlKFI | It's a good thing the unified crit and spell dmg/healing |
| 23:42.22 | KarlKFI | but druid ap still needs to get fixed |
| 23:43.25 | KarlKFI | balencing first, then clean up |
| 23:43.39 | Lopeppeppy | No fatigue anymore swimming from the dock to Feathermoon? Very nice. |
| 23:44.09 | Dagmar | I think they were just dragging their feet on fixing that |
| 23:44.22 | Dagmar | There was never a time when it was useful for that to be there. |
| 23:44.25 | Lopeppeppy | I'm used to having to swim fast and pray. :) |
| 23:44.39 | Hirsute-Home | Heh. |
| 23:44.40 | Dagmar | You could always swim across from the side northeast of there |
| 23:44.47 | KarlKFI | water mount imo |
| 23:44.48 | Dagmar | ...even during closed beta |
| 23:46.02 | Lopeppeppy | There are patches of deep water coming there from the east, you used to have to be careful. |
| 23:46.09 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Shirik. Happy friday! |
| 23:46.18 | Dagmar | Hence, _northeast_ |
| 23:48.14 | Dagmar | Notice how the Feathermoon Stronghold island is practically square? The northeast corner of it. You can pretty much come straight to it from the beach north by northeast of there |
| 23:48.36 | Lopeppeppy | Well, I came due east and no fatigue, so I think perhaps they fixed it at last. |
| 23:48.44 | Lopeppeppy | TBH, I like to race the fatigue. :) |
| 23:48.44 | Dagmar | I've no idea why they left it that way, other than maybe as a "drowned idiot" check |
| 23:49.07 | Dagmar | It's got to be the narrowest stretch of fatigue water ever |
| 23:49.21 | Lopeppeppy | But still, fun to swim in. |
| 23:49.31 | Lopeppeppy | My cat is helping me set up WoW... I adore my cat. <33333333 |
| 23:50.03 | Dagmar | A ahame you can't link coordinates in MapWow like you can Google Maps |
| 23:50.32 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I so do NOT need a street level GoogleWoW hunting down the cyber-parties.... |
| 23:50.45 | Dagmar | That would actually be pretty swank |
| 23:51.17 | Dagmar | The possibility of easter eggs in there would be phenomenal |
| 23:52.24 | Lopeppeppy | *wince* |
| 23:52.43 | Lopeppeppy | The possibility of hideous player stupidity would be not-worth-it, IMO. |
| 23:55.24 | Dagmar | "Possibility"? |
| 23:55.34 | Dagmar | C'mon. What game are you really playing, because it's not WoW. |
| 23:55.41 | Lopeppeppy | True, the absolute assurance of hideous.... |
| 23:57.54 | Wimpface | Putting Out the Light done, only Ironforge left for my precious war bear :) |
| 23:57.59 | Thunder_Child | hah, as a failsafe measure pase all outgoing comunication to see what level of stupidity there is an go from there. |
| 23:58.07 | Thunder_Child | s/pase/parse/ |
| 23:58.15 | Thunder_Child | and* |
| 23:58.19 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 23:58.20 | purl | Thunder_Child, you Fail! |
| 23:58.22 | mikma | so my wifes brother turned 30 today... what did he get as gift? |
| 23:58.36 | mikma | a fooking tandem-skydiving |
| 23:58.43 | mikma | was nice to know you.... |
| 23:58.48 | Thunder_Child | thats a good gift |
| 23:58.51 | Tekkub | mid life crisis! |
| 23:59.17 | mikma | I would just say "no thanks" for gift like that |
| 23:59.25 | mikma | i value my life too much |
| 23:59.38 | Thunder_Child | though real men do not do tandem (with the exeception of a hot instrutor) |
