| 00:00.11 | Mike-N-Go | 2) He does not have any other addons on WoWI, so I do not believe he is an addon programmer; he just modified one major thing to put in a feature |
| 00:00.12 | Cairenn | I don't like it, but if it doesn't fire then there's no violation of that particular rule, so I can't do anything about it |
| 00:00.29 | Tem | what rule? |
| 00:00.39 | Cairenn | no in-game advertising |
| 00:00.44 | Tem | really? |
| 00:00.47 | Cairenn | yup |
| 00:00.53 | Tem | is that a wowi rule? |
| 00:00.56 | Mike-N-Go | 3) He did not bother to change the name of the file/addon |
| 00:00.59 | Cairenn | that's a Blizz rule |
| 00:01.12 | Tem | I wonder how I never heard of it |
| 00:01.19 | Cairenn | hang on, finding it |
| 00:01.58 | mikma | Oh oh |
| 00:02.33 | mikma | that means remove all ckk addons lol! they have donate buttons! |
| 00:03.06 | Mike-N-Go | mikma: I think it is ingame adverts that are not allowed. |
| 00:03.25 | Cairenn | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html 9. Code of Conduct, B. Rules Related to "Chat" and Interaction With Other Users. (iii) Disrupt the normal flow of dialogue in Chat or otherwise act in a manner that negatively affects other users including without limitation posting commercial solicitations and/or advertisements for goods and services available outside of the World of Warcraft universe; |
| 00:04.00 | Cairenn | mikma: they don't interrupt the normal flow of dialogue |
| 00:04.37 | Mike-N-Go | 4) Around line 380 of the main file, he has a request for 'Have fun : "..latestAskers[iNum]..".You can make a donation to keep developer interested in this addon.2 Roywick : Eat my socks...If you love this announce system send donation to Violate, author of this mod.2 Roywick : Eat my socks.", though it is commented out; it is not even his declarative work, so he should not be asking for donations. |
| 00:05.41 | Cairenn | Mike-N-Go: cut to the chase, I really don't need all of this, you aren't required to provide reasons - do you want me to mediate, do you want to require that it be posted as a plugin, do you want it removed completely, or what? |
| 00:05.42 | mikma | tem: Row 397 |
| 00:06.19 | Cairenn | :) |
| 00:06.41 | mikma | that line is not commented |
| 00:07.02 | Cairenn | that line fires in-game? |
| 00:07.12 | mikma | SendChatMessage("Last "..manNum.." ppl used this addon: "..xNames..".If any of you can make some donation to Violate (author), it would be good." , "CHANNEL", nil, arg8); |
| 00:07.36 | Mike-N-Go | In my opinion, I would like to request Kartun to change the name of the file/download to something other then the name of my file. |
| 00:07.42 | AbsolutRayne | Ohmy godddddd why are Abysal Crystals so expensive on my server >_< |
| 00:08.04 | Tem | mikma, I can't even tell what that line outputs |
| 00:08.12 | Tem | his code is damn near unreadable |
| 00:08.51 | Lopeppeppy | What in the seven shades of.... grrrrrrr for websites not resolving. |
| 00:09.05 | Dagmar | AbsolutRayne: If there's a very small number of people listing the majority of the lower end of that market, you can blame "speculative buying" |
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| 00:09.14 | Tem | also, good call, for noticing the other "give me money I don't deserve" line that's not commented out |
| 00:09.37 | mikma | yeah that line gets used when ... |
| 00:10.10 | Tem | omfg |
| 00:10.15 | mikma | people use '?wg' in chat? |
| 00:10.19 | Tem | do you see how he detects ?wg |
| 00:10.37 | Tem | instead of just registering for CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL like he should, he creates a fucking chat filter |
| 00:10.50 | Cairenn | Mike-N-Go, mikma: could either of you link to your mod instead, please? |
| 00:10.53 | AbsolutRayne | Dagmar: Just out of curiosity, what are they going for on your server |
| 00:11.00 | Arrowmaster | yeah just be done with it and have it removed |
| 00:11.04 | Dagmar | I've no idea since I'm not an enchanter, sorry |
| 00:11.11 | Dagmar | I know they're pricey, that's about it |
| 00:11.15 | Cairenn | I'm pulling it |
| 00:11.39 | Mike-N-Go | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=11940 is mine. |
| 00:12.08 | Mike-N-Go | Cairenn: I am fine with it being pulled. |
| 00:12.14 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=12443#info |
| 00:12.38 | Tem | hah |
| 00:12.43 | Tem | *cheer* Cairenn |
| 00:13.27 | mikma | see? cairenn knew what to do! told ya |
| 00:13.50 | Arrowmaster | wtf is with the most recent comment? |
| 00:13.59 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn is made of awesome, and good dark chocolate. |
| 00:14.12 | Cairenn | heh |
| 00:14.54 | Lunessa | ZOMG... chocolate. Now I'm hungry. |
| 00:14.59 | Mike-N-Go | Cairenn: There are just too many things wrong with Kartun's fork. |
| 00:15.02 | Lopeppeppy | *kiss kiss* |
| 00:15.11 | Cairenn | yup, so it's gone |
| 00:15.19 | Cairenn | he makes a fuss about it, he gets banned |
| 00:15.37 | mikma | here, has a banana. |
| 00:15.43 | mikma | monkeyboy! |
| 00:16.15 | Mike-N-Go | Tem: Yah.. he uses a ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter.. lol. |
| 00:16.21 | Lopeppeppy | Yay for me! |
| 00:16.36 | Tem | Mike-N-Go, I had to stop reading. It was too painful |
| 00:16.43 | Arrowmaster | Mike-N-Go: whats with your embeds? |
| 00:16.50 | |Jelly| | Noo! |
| 00:16.55 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, my computer is frustrating me. Give me a good reason why it won't load the WoW Interface home page, when it will go anywhere else in the site. |
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| 00:17.44 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: ummm |
| 00:17.46 | Cairenn | I don't know? |
| 00:18.23 | Lopeppeppy | Grrr and a half. |
| 00:18.26 | Mike-N-Go | Arrowmaster: For Wintergrasp Timer? |
| 00:18.30 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 00:18.38 | Dagmar | Spyware/adware, viruses, broken cache |
| 00:18.40 | Lopeppeppy | Firefox is just plain old borked. I got all the malware off, but Firefox will NOT load certain pages. |
| 00:18.49 | Mike-N-Go | My first time to embed Ace. What should I do differently? |
| 00:18.56 | Lunessa | Peppy - what security software are you running (hoping it's not Norton) |
| 00:18.57 | Pytlask | Lopeppeppy: Home-ophobia? |
| 00:18.59 | Dagmar | Umm... then you probably didn't actually get all the malware off |
| 00:19.10 | Arrowmaster | Mike-N-Go: you have a few libs embedded twice |
| 00:19.27 | Lopeppeppy | If I didn't, it's lived through a million different virus programs. And why would it block the Mozilla home page, and not say.... Kaspersky? |
| 00:19.32 | Arrowmaster | and why are you loading libs from both embeds.xml and the toc |
| 00:19.46 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: You didn't sanitize your lmhosts file perhaps? |
| 00:20.45 | mikma | mike-n-go: i have an idea. Dont =) |
| 00:21.04 | Mike-N-Go | Arrowmaster: This is the first time I embedded something into a project. What is the 'correct' way of embedding the libs? |
| 00:21.04 | Arrowmaster | Mike-N-Go: and its also broken |
| 00:21.12 | Arrowmaster | you dont include AceGUI-3.0 |
| 00:21.20 | Arrowmaster | but use AceConfigDialog-3.0 |
| 00:21.37 | Lopeppeppy | Dagmar, searching for the file... *hummy hum* I'm an inch away from just trashing it, not even installing windows, just throwing out the whole desktop. |
| 00:21.38 | Arrowmaster | just pull that version for now |
| 00:21.54 | Arrowmaster | its a disaster |
| 00:22.19 | Mike-N-Go | I was working on putting in the blizz options pane. |
| 00:22.29 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: The honest and unpleasant truth is that VirtuMonde is making a comeback, and that f**ker is downright malicious, up to and including doing different ugly things to different PCs |
| 00:22.33 | Mike-N-Go | Arrowmaster: Any other remarks? |
| 00:22.55 | Arrowmaster | too many to mention |
| 00:22.58 | Arrowmaster | you dont want to hear them |
| 00:23.02 | Dagmar | ...so if the phrase "VirtuMonde" appeared anywhere when you were removing that, rest assured that it's probably done something both unique and special to your machine once it realized someone was trying to remove it |
| 00:23.07 | Lopeppeppy | This was just Spyware Protect 2009, relatively tame as such things go. |
| 00:23.21 | Lopeppeppy | Dagmar, does "sanitize" in this case mean "delete", or "edit in a specific way" ? |
| 00:23.21 | Dagmar | You installed that? |
| 00:23.29 | mikma | mike-n-go: haha, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11940-WintergraspTimer.html#comments |
| 00:23.30 | Mike-N-Go | Actually, I do, if you have the time. |
| 00:23.51 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: In this case it means "yank out all the DNS overriding lines in there that aren't IANA derived" |
| 00:24.13 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't. *sigh* I had everything in selective startup mode, all turned off, TRYING to get Wrath to run on my desktop, and while I was diagnosing I caught SP2009 from Facebook. GG Peppy for being bored while doing diagnostics. |
| 00:24.25 | Lopeppeppy | Dagmar, you speak in strange tongues. I will investigate. |
| 00:24.49 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: If I ever find that those f**ks live within driving distance of my house, theres' going to be a fire |
| 00:25.32 | Dagmar | We're way past the point where the FBI should be throwing someone in the housegow over it, there's just no single plaintiff with a sufficiently large dollar loss willing to testify that their security was breached |
| 00:25.33 | Arrowmaster | Mike-N-Go: you are embeding acelocale-3.0 but not using it, instead you are defining a huge list of locals and then setting them with a big if statement, at the very least it should be done with a local L = {} and assign the localizations into that table in the in statement |
| 00:25.47 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, pretty much. But at least SP2009 is relatively tame as they go, it's gone already, I just have to figure out how it hosed my broswers. |
| 00:26.23 | Lopeppeppy | Aaaaand... there's nothing in the lmhosts file except the commented out "directions" for use. |
| 00:26.32 | Arrowmaster | Mike-N-Go: you are embeding aceconsole-3.0 but not using it, instead you are creating your own slash command handler, and inside that handler you are using print(), print() should only ever be used for debugging stuff, use DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage() |
| 00:26.33 | Dagmar | The problem is that where one virus was bootstrapped in, there were usually more |
| 00:27.12 | Lopeppeppy | It was a narrow window, but I allow as how you're correct. But I've scanned it to hell and back with a million things, unless it's spanking brand new, it's not left on the system. |
| 00:27.26 | Dagmar | I just removed the latest VirtuMonde from my gf's machine last week |
| 00:27.33 | Lopeppeppy | And it's only Firefox. Flock and IE resolve the websites fine. |
| 00:27.50 | Dagmar | Okay so you've probably still got a rogue browser helper object or plugin in there |
| 00:28.08 | Dagmar | Facebook needs to sue whoeever is providing their ad banner services |
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| 00:28.43 | Dagmar | The thing wot bootstrapped VirtuMOnde into place had also bootstrapped nine other things |
| 00:28.43 | Lopeppeppy | I deleted Firefox completely, what else can I do for browser helper objects if AdAware, AVG, ClamWin, Spybot, Kaspersky and um... Windows Defender don't find anything else? |
| 00:28.44 | kd3 | char copy's still up in the us if anyone still needs it |
| 00:28.47 | mikma | arrowmaster: hehe, he uses print() most likely because i use it =P |
| 00:29.03 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: Dig about in the registry for them is the only thing I can figure |
| 00:29.03 | Arrowmaster | mikma: then i should be telling you not to use print() |
| 00:29.08 | Mike-N-Go | About the localization. That was next on my list. |
| 00:29.17 | mikma | yes you should =) |
| 00:29.20 | Dagmar | Or manually make sure that the firefox directory is gone gone gone as well as your local user settings directory for Firefox |
| 00:29.34 | Dagmar | Me I use TeaTimer for a reason |
| 00:29.37 | mikma | i know that print() can be evil |
| 00:30.08 | Lopeppeppy | I did, Dagmar. TeaTimer is part of um... Spybot! I use that. |
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| 00:30.36 | mikma | like print(function_that_returns_multiple_stuff()) = 1 2 foo 3 bar 4 5 |
| 00:30.42 | Lopeppeppy | Except when I was in super-Selective Startup diagnosing why Wrath wouldn't run on my computer... I shall now blame Wrath!! |
| 00:31.11 | mikma | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(function_that_returns_multiple_stuff()) = 1 |
| 00:31.38 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: so did you do like my gf did and when the dialog box telling you that something was trying to change the registry for no apparent reason, you clicked "Allow" on it like a nut? |
| 00:31.48 | Dagmar | ...because that's what seems to nail most people. |
| 00:31.50 | Arrowmaster | mikma: my main objection to using print() is that i can change the print handler to whatever i want and not make it output to a chatframe, or change the behavior of it if i wanted to |
| 00:32.16 | Dagmar | They see a dialog with a bunch of word salad or alphabet soup on it and assume it must be doing something both complex and correct |
| 00:32.18 | mikma | arrowmaster: oh, people do that? well good point tho |
| 00:32.31 | Arrowmaster | yes, setprinthandler() |
| 00:32.34 | Mike-N-Go | And all the other things that are messed up. I decided to toss that version up so some of the updates would be up there; I intend to work more on it latter this week. |
| 00:32.38 | Lopeppeppy | No. Dagmar, re-read. I had it all disabled to try to diagnose why Wrath crashes my desktop, like a good little do-bee following the Selective Startup instructions. I was stupid to play on Facebook, I'm too used to soooo many layers of protection. |
| 00:32.49 | Dagmar | Ahhh |
| 00:32.50 | Dagmar | Okay |
| 00:32.50 | Dagmar | Hehe |
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| 00:32.57 | Mike-N-Go | Arrowmaster: Thank you for your feedback, I really appreciate it. |
| 00:32.57 | Arrowmaster | Mike-N-Go: well that version is broken since it doesnt include all the proper libraries so imho you should pull it asap |
| 00:33.18 | Lopeppeppy | I totally own the stupid. *nod* I just want to fix this last little bit of it and be done! |
| 00:33.32 | mikma | unless you use some ace abomination that loads the libs before |
| 00:33.48 | Mike-N-Go | Arrowmaster: If you insist; I'll pull it and look into the lib thing. |
| 00:34.33 | mikma | hah |
| 00:35.02 | mikma | i should rename Wintergrasp Timer Light -> Stop! Wintergrasp time! |
| 00:35.08 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.16 | OsirisT | anyone here use SpartanUI and did the latest update for bartender 4 mess up their bar placement? |
| 00:35.56 | Hjalte_ | OsirisT: nevcairiel changed something that moved the layout a bit. |
| 00:36.13 | mikma | nevcairiel: good boy =) |
| 00:36.29 | mikma | way to break ui compilations! |
| 00:36.48 | OsirisT | ack please fix it.. it made my interface completely unusable.. so I had to stop using all my mods including my meta hud and my scrolling battle text |
| 00:37.11 | mikma | osirist: bollocks =( |
| 00:37.36 | Arrowmaster | nobody gives a fuck about compilation users |
| 00:37.59 | Arrowmaster | go bitch to spartanui |
| 00:38.07 | OsirisT | well I certainly hope he / she fixes it soon... I am sure I am not the only one this has had serious consequences for. |
| 00:38.26 | jaxdahl | oh no, what am i going to do when i can't press butans and get purps |
| 00:38.32 | mikma | two words: default ui |
| 00:38.54 | OsirisT | then why are you all developing mods if that's how you feel? |
| 00:39.12 | |Jelly| | Wow. Such hostility. |
| 00:39.23 | NightHawkTheSane | not everyone feels that way, but few people here actually use compilations, i think |
| 00:39.34 | Arrowmaster | very few |
| 00:39.36 | Arrowmaster | if any |
| 00:39.50 | mikma | |jelly|: go and eat a watermelon! |
| 00:39.52 | |Jelly| | So everyone uses the default UI? |
| 00:39.56 | NightHawkTheSane | i thought AbsolutRayne and peppy did, but *shrug* |
| 00:40.09 | Lunessa | Spartan UI belongs to the Spartan guy, Bartender 4 belongs to nevcairiel and he can code it how he likes. |
| 00:40.27 | Lopeppeppy | I use AbsolutRayne's UI, actually. *smile* |
| 00:40.32 | mikma | poor leonidas |
| 00:40.38 | mikma | rolling over in his grave |
| 00:41.00 | Lopeppeppy | But as Lunessa says... it's up to the SpartanUI creator to keep his compilation up to date. However, an educated user can adapt any UI compilation and roll with the changes. |
| 00:41.25 | mikma | no, no. nevcairiel rules. |
| 00:41.29 | Lopeppeppy | I don't wait for AbsolutRayne to hand me a new setup, if Dominos gets an update and I want it, I go get it, simple as that. And I set it up inside the Cherry framework just as I please. |
| 00:41.35 | Lunessa | I roll my own. Seriously. : P http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w227/matt_converse/WoW%20Interface%20Gallery/UI-2009-02-23.jpg |
| 00:41.56 | Lopeppeppy | And you are also made of wonder, Lunessa. I never deny these things. |
| 00:42.07 | Mike-N-Go | Arrowmaster: If you would note in my addon, as of r beta13, I was in the process of writing the blizzard options config thing. |
| 00:42.23 | Lunessa | :D I am full of awesome and win. :) But that's a discussion for another time. |
| 00:43.06 | |Jelly| | Hey look ... a Lunessa compilation. |
| 00:43.08 | NightHawkTheSane | well, you're certainly full of something |
| 00:43.13 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_020809_234906.jpg |
| 00:44.04 | Arrowmaster | wana see somthing funny |
| 00:44.10 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: You're just jealous. :P |
| 00:44.18 | OsirisT | well by that logic if MS does something to windows that makes WoW not functional well WoW belongs to Blizz and Windows belongs to MS so they can code it however they see fit... I never said that the dev of BT4 could not code it however they like.. was just asking and stating that some change made in BT4 broke everything else I was using. I never used to use mods at all.. then I tried X-Perl and pretty soon I had more mods |
| 00:44.18 | OsirisT | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: well, yes. |
| 00:44.33 | Arrowmaster | http://arrowmaster.net/screens/WoWScrnShot_121308_202701.jpg http://arrowmaster.net/screens/WoWScrnShot_120906_005904.jpg |
| 00:44.34 | AbsolutRayne | Honestly, ive given up on helping people on my Compilation. Its always someone bitching they updated it freely and it goofed. |
| 00:44.39 | Arrowmaster | look how little my ui has changed |
| 00:44.51 | AbsolutRayne | so honestly, your own fault. If you dont have the knowledge to change it, dont try it. |
| 00:44.57 | |Jelly| | I see addons. |
| 00:45.03 | AbsolutRayne | Especially if theres really nothing wrong with how it currently is. |
| 00:45.04 | |Jelly| | Tokrim Compilation! |
| 00:45.06 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: ... OUCH. |
| 00:46.34 | Lunessa | OsirisT: My point was this - nevcairiel is not responsible for Spartan UI and asking him to revert code in Bartender 4 (and he doesn't make capricious, unnecessary changes) is like asking the Fed to forgo an interest rate change. |
| 00:46.46 | kd3 | and the queue's full |
| 00:46.50 | kd3 | whee |
| 00:47.08 | Gnarfoz | there's no point in denying that the latest changes to bt4 *did* jumble up bars for probably everyone. it's not like a simple /bt lock wouldn't make them moveable again, though. ;) |
| 00:47.10 | Arrowmaster | OsirisT: if you want to use a compilation then just use that compilation, dont update addons in that compilation on your own |
| 00:47.20 | Dagmar | It's been full all weekend |
| 00:47.28 | kd3 | it was open for a while today |
| 00:47.39 | kd3 | copies started going through in the afternoon |
| 00:47.41 | Pytlask | kd3: Euro or US? |
| 00:47.42 | AbsolutRayne | Also, if its not up to date, dont expect it to work 100% |
| 00:47.44 | kd3 | us |
| 00:48.02 | Arrowmaster | im shocked nobody noticed the odd thing about my 4 year old screenshot |
| 00:48.03 | Dagmar | I'll have to check my log, or was it open for less than fifteen minutes? |
| 00:48.21 | kd3 | a little while. I made announcements in here when I noticed it was up |
| 00:48.27 | mikma | arrowmaster: ranks! |
| 00:48.28 | kd3 | at least 30 |
| 00:48.31 | kd3 | probably an hour or two |
| 00:48.33 | Gnarfoz | there's 4 years between 2006 and 2009? |
| 00:48.36 | Arrowmaster | mikma: look closer |
| 00:48.37 | mikma | rare stuff nowadays |
| 00:48.46 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: I just said "Ouch" |
| 00:49.04 | Arrowmaster | look at KBs and HKs |
| 00:49.27 | Thunder_Child | you killed 4 people from behind |
| 00:49.35 | Gnarfoz | ! |
| 00:49.41 | Arrowmaster | more than that |
| 00:49.51 | Gnarfoz | probably exceeded the 10 kill limit on some of those KBs |
| 00:50.00 | Gnarfoz | or 50 |
| 00:50.04 | Gnarfoz | or whatever it was back then |
| 00:50.16 | Thunder_Child | my joke was that it was unhonorable |
| 00:50.20 | Arrowmaster | no that was during patch 2.0.1, before they nerfed affliction warlocks |
| 00:50.22 | Gnarfoz | yes cpt. obvious :p |
| 00:50.31 | Thunder_Child | well Arrowmaster didnt get it |
| 00:50.35 | Thunder_Child | he failed |
| 00:50.40 | Arrowmaster | so i was dotting entire groups getting killed and scoring KBs from the GY |
| 00:50.49 | Arrowmaster | but you dont get HKs while dead |
| 00:50.52 | Gnarfoz | you do |
| 00:50.54 | Gnarfoz | :O |
| 00:50.56 | Arrowmaster | you didnt |
| 00:51.09 | Gnarfoz | fuck yer :( |
| 00:51.14 | Arrowmaster | you got KBs while dead but not HKs |
| 00:51.15 | Gnarfoz | my theory is more fun! :p |
| 00:51.19 | mikma | duh |
| 00:51.29 | mikma | thats what prevents gy camping lal |
| 00:51.36 | Gnarfoz | (and I've seen the HK: <whatever rank> thing while dead many a time :O) |
| 00:51.53 | mikma | but we still do it cause it drives opposite mad |
| 00:52.03 | Gnarfoz | mikma: obviously. did you disenchant that TF part :p |
| 00:52.05 | Arrowmaster | oh the fond memories of solo defending stables vs 5 alliance and winning |
| 00:52.21 | mikma | gnarfoz: went to my huntard friend =) |
| 00:52.25 | Gnarfoz | (I know you can't. what the hell did you post that screenshot for :D) |
| 00:52.29 | mikma | i was kind and passed |
| 00:52.39 | Thunder_Child | is there a reason you cant sell single cards anymore? |
| 00:52.44 | Gnarfoz | kind enough to not roll on something you can't use, how generous :D |
| 00:52.49 | mikma | gnarfoz: to show my ui of course! |
| 00:52.55 | Gnarfoz | your UI sucks |
| 00:52.56 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 00:53.04 | mikma | gnarfoz: dk *can* use it =) |
| 00:53.08 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't include enough Fisker- |
| 00:53.15 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: Too many inscriptionists, most likely |
| 00:53.17 | mikma | gnarfoz: blame blizzard =) |
| 00:53.27 | Gnarfoz | great, every class can use the quest items, that's not my point :p |
| 00:53.49 | Gnarfoz | actually, no |
| 00:53.54 | mikma | no, dk rogue hunter warrior can use the item |
| 00:54.04 | Gnarfoz | whuwhat |
| 00:54.10 | Lunessa | Dagmar: The word is "scribe" |
| 00:54.10 | Gnarfoz | when did they cave in and change that |
| 00:54.21 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar, not "is not selling" but "can not sell" |
| 00:54.24 | Arrowmaster | anybody can use thuderfury unless they fixed the masterloot bug |
| 00:54.25 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Really? I thought it was "lemming" |
| 00:54.26 | mikma | i have no idea. was a surprise to me too |
| 00:54.42 | Thunder_Child | i keep geting "you can not sell an item with charges" or osmething like that |
| 00:54.48 | Dagmar | Ah probably a bug |
| 00:54.54 | Gnarfoz | that's like totally idiotic :D |
| 00:54.56 | Dagmar | ...since the things don't have charges |
| 00:54.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: sounds more like a bug than an intentional decision |
| 00:55.03 | Nechckn | Thunder_Child you've likely had the card for a long time, right? |
| 00:55.04 | Lunessa | That would be awesome. "Lemming LFW: Have all minor glyphs. See me by Icecrown Cliff!" |
| 00:55.06 | NightHawkTheSane | they probably do, internally |
| 00:55.11 | Thunder_Child | Nechckn, yes |
| 00:55.20 | Thunder_Child | it says 'used charges' actually |
| 00:55.23 | Nechckn | Thunder_Child if it has "full" charges, put in a GM ticket and tell them to replace it. |
| 00:55.36 | Thunder_Child | it a card...they dont have charges |
| 00:55.41 | Thunder_Child | it's* |
| 00:55.45 | Nechckn | Gotcha... |
| 00:55.48 | NightHawkTheSane | "they probably do, internally" |
| 00:55.56 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: the quest item requires you to be of class {tard, war, pal, rogue, dk}? |
| 00:55.58 | Nechckn | that was an issue when 3.0 hit |
| 00:56.02 | Gnarfoz | how would you circumvent that :p |
| 00:56.22 | Gnarfoz | if you could, for example, ML the Dormant wind kissed blade to someone else |
| 00:56.24 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, how does it get used up w/o it being a deck? |
| 00:56.26 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: when you kill thunderaan if you have it on masterloot you can give it to anyway |
| 00:56.27 | Gnarfoz | he'd still be not on the quest chain |
| 00:56.33 | Gnarfoz | and can't turn it into a TF |
| 00:56.37 | Nechckn | Thunder_Child it should be really quick for them to replace it... they usually will just mail you a new one |
| 00:56.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: that's why its a bug. ;) |
| 00:56.39 | Arrowmaster | yes they can |
| 00:56.42 | Gnarfoz | how so? |
| 00:56.54 | Nechckn | Thunder_Child be sure you check your bank and see if you have any others while you are at it. |
| 00:56.56 | Arrowmaster | you just need the drop from thunderaan |
| 00:57.05 | Gnarfoz | oh right |
| 00:57.09 | Gnarfoz | that one starts the quest |
| 00:57.16 | Thunder_Child | Nechckn, ya i have 3 total and they all do it |
| 00:57.18 | Gnarfoz | obvious blizz oversights :p |
| 00:57.39 | Thunder_Child | is there a '/' command to start a ticket? |
| 00:57.40 | Nechckn | Thunder_Child kk.. just put that in the ticket then, it's usually pretty quick, which is nice. =) |
| 00:57.47 | kd3 | tc; /gm? |
| 00:57.50 | Gnarfoz | no, there isn't |
| 00:57.53 | mikma | thunder_child: /camp |
| 00:57.57 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.13 | Thunder_Child | /gm worked for me anyway |
| 00:58.24 | Nechckn | That should be on the ESC menu, imnsho |
| 00:58.27 | NightHawkTheSane | because you have a mod that uses AceConsole or RockConsole, likely? ;) |
| 00:58.46 | Thunder_Child | many |
| 00:59.02 | [draco] | I'd bet almost everyone on this chan has at least one addon using either ace or rock |
| 00:59.12 | Thunder_Child | i doubt it |
| 00:59.14 | Gnarfoz | was changed in 3.0.8 btw |
| 00:59.16 | Gnarfoz | TF |
| 00:59.57 | Thunder_Child | silly that you can not link things in a ticket |
| 01:00.08 | Kirov | [draco] - that we use, or that we made? |
| 01:00.17 | [draco] | use |
| 01:00.39 | Nechckn | http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/9211/ Item 3, by deckard, Thunder_Child And, yes, the linking sucks! |
| 01:02.00 | Dagmar | Do you remember when linking a nonexistant item would nuke the client of the person trying to click on it? |
| 01:02.03 | Dagmar | That would be why. |
| 01:03.19 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 01:03.36 | Kirov | That was fun |
| 01:03.37 | Gnarfoz | you can't link nonexisting items, YOU get disconnected in that case :p |
| 01:03.48 | Gnarfoz | malformed links, however... :O |
| 01:04.10 | Dagmar | I can link completely made up achievements, I'm sure there's even more leeway for screwing around if I just look |
| 01:04.11 | Thunder_Child | thanks Nechckn |
| 01:04.22 | Nechckn | np =) |
| 01:04.24 | Kirov | Gnarfoz - a link with an itemid of 0 was not checked, but would disconnect you if you clicked on it. |
| 01:04.36 | Gnarfoz | sounds malformed to me :D |
| 01:04.37 | kd3 | I miss being able to send messages to /2 with "Selling following items: [][][][][]. Click to see them!" |
| 01:05.09 | Dagmar | The point being if you could link things to GMs, there would be no end of fun with people seeing how long they could make the GM queue |
| 01:05.49 | Dagmar | Just like with the anal spam, unless they adopted a "one strike and we come to break your knees" policy, there'd be no end of people wanting to try their hand at it |
| 01:06.06 | Kirov | My old guild's guild leader used to get phone calls all the time in the middle of raids (usually while he was giving directions on a boss). He'd always answer it then spend the next couple of minutes cursing in Russian over the phone (but with out push to talk turned on so we all heard it) |
| 01:06.27 | Kirov | When ever that happened I would put a "[Bakka Phone]" link in chat and half the raid would disconnect. |
| 01:06.36 | Kirov | (his character's name was Bakka) |
| 01:06.44 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 01:06.53 | Kirov | That and [RAINBOWS] |
| 01:07.19 | Dagmar | Bad things happening when complex messages are allowed to be sent to privledged users goes way, way back, at least to the early 80's |
| 01:07.40 | Kirov | Though, my all time favorite link I created was a 4 slot bag with +92 Ranged Attack Power |
| 01:07.56 | Dagmar | ...when one of the more entertaining things to do was to write to a sysadmin who had splitvt running some stuff so you could make input "jump the split" and go to their (assumed) shell |
| 01:08.08 | Lunessa | Ahhh the days of early chat protocols where you could call files by their path... Rattling the floppy drive was so l337 |
| 01:08.10 | Dagmar | ...all becuase it didn't filter out vt codes |
| 01:08.15 | Thunder_Child | lol, advertisment on wowhead for warhammer online |
| 01:08.27 | WobWork | They know their target audience =P |
| 01:08.35 | kd3 | "Now with a free cupholder! <Ejects the CD drive>" |
| 01:08.39 | Dagmar | Actually I think perhaps they don't |
| 01:08.40 | WobWork | I got an email asking me to come back to Conan =P |
| 01:08.47 | WobWork | I laughed =P |
| 01:08.53 | Dagmar | WobWork: If they contact me I'll sue |
| 01:09.05 | Dagmar | It took them three months to stop trying to bill me |
| 01:09.20 | WobWork | did you get a refund? |
| 01:09.24 | Dagmar | Eventually |
| 01:09.32 | WobWork | stupid funcom |
| 01:09.52 | WobWork | (it was funcom, wasn't it? So confused now)_ |
| 01:09.59 | Dagmar | I suspect mainly they were trying to make sure they could pay *some* bills |
| 01:10.10 | Dagmar | The day of release, clearly a bunch of the investors tried the game |
| 01:10.21 | Dagmar | Much stock tankage ensued |
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| 01:10.23 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 01:10.56 | Dagmar | Not being able to complete the intro mission with "minimum requirements" might have been a tip-off that there were problems |
| 01:11.10 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.geekstir.com/marios-mistake |
| 01:11.48 | WobWork | It was pretty |
| 01:11.51 | WobWork | I'll give you that |
| 01:11.56 | WobWork | (with appropriate hardware) |
| 01:12.06 | WobWork | but the pretty wore off fairly quickly |
| 01:12.17 | WobWork | when the ridiculous amount of walking ensued |
| 01:12.44 | WobWork | I did like the quest mapping |
| 01:12.47 | Dagmar | That bit where you had to run through the whole little starter village in a fight was not something you could do if you were anywhere near the minimum requirements |
| 01:13.07 | WobWork | which Warhammer did too |
| 01:13.16 | Dagmar | ...because the "minimum" requirements would get you approximately four seconds or more per frame. |
| 01:13.26 | Esamynn|Work | ouch |
| 01:13.30 | WobWork | I expected that going in, Dagmar |
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| 01:13.53 | Cidan_ | k so, last night I went over to this girls house that I'm dating. She's all like, "Let's have some wine!" I'm like, "OKAY!" |
| 01:14.02 | Cidan | Yeah uhm. |
| 01:14.11 | Dagmar | I expect that with all the settings to their lowest, a card more powerful than the minimum recommended would be able to stay above a *slow* slideshow |
| 01:14.14 | Cidan | After... the second bottle or so, I don't remember much. |
| 01:14.20 | Cidan | I woke up naked though, so that's a plus. |
| 01:14.23 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 01:14.25 | Cidan | I think. |
| 01:14.29 | WobWork | Cidan: Inside, though? |
| 01:14.36 | Esamynn|Work | with her next to you? |
| 01:14.37 | Cidan | inside, yes. |
| 01:14.40 | Dagmar | Cidan: That depends on whether or not hte police are looking for you now |
| 01:14.44 | Cidan | Yeah, she was naked too, so, good times? |
| 01:14.50 | Lopeppeppy | ... not good times. |
| 01:14.59 | Lopeppeppy | Next time, one glass so you like... have a memory when you're done. |
| 01:15.03 | Esamynn|Work | ^ |
| 01:15.07 | WobWork | ^ |
| 01:15.13 | Gnarfoz | v |
| 01:15.14 | Cidan | Eh, truth be told, I remember some. |
| 01:15.18 | Cidan | BAM! |
| 01:15.23 | Cidan | Gnarfoz: <3 |
| 01:15.26 | Lopeppeppy | And this is why Peppy doesn't drink in mixed company!!! :) |
| 01:15.42 | WobWork | Cause it's more fun doing it only with girls? |
| 01:15.49 | Cidan | hehehe. |
| 01:16.12 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, actually, WobWork, it is. I'd rather get drunk with Cairenn anyday than any single guy I could name. |
| 01:16.21 | Esamynn|Work | ~botsnack |
| 01:16.21 | purl | Esamynn|Work: :) |
| 01:16.25 | Esamynn|Work | yay! |
| 01:16.35 | Lopeppeppy | PURL! |
| 01:16.59 | Cidan | ~lart purl |
| 01:16.59 | purl | wallops cidan with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
| 01:17.04 | Cidan | D: |
| 01:17.11 | Gnarfoz | that's like "Soon" |
| 01:17.29 | WobWork | That's what -she- said |
| 01:17.31 | Esamynn|Work | ~laugh Cidan |
| 01:17.32 | purl | ACTION laughs hysterically at Cidan...ow! laughing so hard, it can't breathe... gasp...gasp...gasp.... ..... ... |
| 01:17.36 | WobWork | That's what -she- said |
| 01:17.44 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart WobWork |
| 01:17.44 | purl | beats WobWork senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
| 01:17.52 | Gnarfoz | is it usual to prefix subtitles with # if the line is sung rather than spoken? |
| 01:18.15 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy: *glomp* |
| 01:18.18 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy: How are you? |
| 01:18.34 | Lopeppeppy | I'm doing good, Cidan, swearing at my computer as normal. Glad to hear about the lady friend. |
| 01:18.36 | Gnarfoz | I also hate what Tim Robbins's face looks like :D |
| 01:19.07 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: subtitles in what? |
| 01:19.13 | Gnarfoz | movies |
| 01:19.13 | WobWork | Gnarfoz: you're watching Tim Robbins sing with subtitles? |
| 01:19.35 | Gnarfoz | no, Tim Robbins, the singing was probably Radio or whatever :> |
| 01:19.35 | Lopeppeppy | I like to watch movies with subtitles. |
| 01:19.38 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy: Thanks, all silly aside, we're getting along great. |
| 01:19.51 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: what type of sub file? afaik # in .ass is comments that shouldnt be displayed |
| 01:20.11 | Lopeppeppy | Good. As long as you're both happy with the wine-date, I'm all good that you're happy. Consenting adults and so forth! |
| 01:20.12 | WobWork | Arrowmaster: I think he means on screen |
| 01:20.21 | Gnarfoz | well, it's english subs (I accidentally left subs on), I guess they should be visible |
| 01:20.22 | WobWork | #(Radio Music) |
| 01:20.29 | Cidan | True story: First time I've ever been drunk in my life. |
| 01:20.31 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 01:20.33 | Cidan | Likely the last time. |
| 01:20.34 | Gnarfoz | #<lyrics> |
| 01:20.41 | Arrowmaster | well i ask this because VLC is natorious for being broken and displaying comments that it shouldnt |
| 01:20.49 | Gnarfoz | MPC-HC |
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| 01:20.56 | WobWork | # I can't understand a word he's saying... |
| 01:20.58 | Cidan | Gnarfoz: Amen |
| 01:21.00 | Lopeppeppy | Cidan, it's totally not a great state to be in. I prefer one drink at a time. |
| 01:21.14 | Arrowmaster | no clue then |
| 01:21.24 | Gnarfoz | how do I check what kind of subs are inside a mkv? |
| 01:21.31 | WobWork | Lopeppeppy: Well drinking 4 drinks at a time can be a logistical nightmare =) |
| 01:21.37 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy: I agree. We had fun though. |
| 01:21.41 | Cidan | WobWork: hah! :D |
| 01:21.55 | Cidan | WobWork: That's why God invented straws! |
| 01:22.00 | WobWork | heheh =) |
| 01:22.08 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: in mpc-hc right click properties, details tab |
| 01:22.23 | Gnarfoz | Subtitle: UTF-8 [Subtitle] |
| 01:22.25 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 01:22.31 | Lopeppeppy | WobWork, they have hats for that!!! |
| 01:22.32 | Gnarfoz | it's not MPC's splitter |
| 01:22.34 | Arrowmaster | so its probably SRT |
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| 01:23.15 | Arrowmaster | and either copied from ASS or whoever made them maybe thought that SRT used # as comments too maybe |
| 01:23.25 | Cidan | there is a utility |
| 01:23.35 | Cidan | I forgot the name of it, that let's you see inside an MKV |
| 01:23.42 | Cidan | really an MKV is just a container format, that's all. |
| 01:23.52 | Gnarfoz | yeah, obviously |
| 01:24.02 | Gnarfoz | I'll find out some other time :D |
| 01:25.00 | Dagmar | mencoder will tell you |
| 01:25.12 | Gnarfoz | wrong OS I guess ;) |
| 01:25.12 | Dagmar | ...although generally the answer is "pirated anime" |
| 01:25.25 | Arrowmaster | http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/ |
| 01:25.49 | Lopeppeppy | I saw some... interesting hentai at the con I was at... pirated anime indeed. |
| 01:25.49 | Gnarfoz | how does "pirated anime" answer "what kind of subs are in this mkv" lol |
| 01:26.36 | Dagmar | ...because they're still pirated anime, even if they're fan translations |
| 01:26.38 | Gnarfoz | hm, MPC's internal splitter doesn't say anything else, BUT the picture stutters :D |
| 01:26.45 | Gnarfoz | what. |
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| 01:26.58 | Gnarfoz | what kind of = ASS, SRT or what else |
| 01:27.05 | Lopeppeppy | ASS! |
| 01:27.16 | Shirik | o.o |
| 01:27.20 | Guest3932 | wtf did I join to |
| 01:27.20 | Arrowmaster | are you using directvobsub? |
| 01:27.29 | Gnarfoz | not "original", "fansub", "bullshit boo-hoo-that's-illegal" :p |
| 01:27.29 | Dagmar | It could be worse. |
| 01:27.30 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Guest3932] by ChanServ |
| 01:27.44 | Dagmar | You could be trying to invoke transcode manually to split the file apart |
| 01:27.53 | Cidan | Guest3932: D: |
| 01:28.00 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: nope |
| 01:28.11 | Gnarfoz | the singing is over anyway :p |
| 01:29.12 | Shirik | Cidan D: |
| 01:29.52 | Gnarfoz | (also it's The pirated Shawshank Redemption in crips 1080p x264, not "pirated anime" :-O) |
| 01:29.58 | Gnarfoz | *crisp damnit |
| 01:30.19 | Dagmar | I'm just messing with you about the pirated stuff, although that pretty much must be 99% of mkv files out there |
| 01:30.22 | Cidan | Shirik: :D |
| 01:30.25 | [draco] | there's HD material of shawshak redemption? o0 |
| 01:30.25 | Cidan | Shirik: How are you? |
| 01:30.34 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: I'd say that estimation is way off :> |
| 01:30.51 | Dagmar | 99.9% then? |
| 01:30.55 | WobWork | http://www.heftalica.com/ |
| 01:31.24 | Gnarfoz | [draco]: http://pic.phyrefile.com/a/an/anonymous/2008/10/11/screen4.png ;o |
| 01:31.43 | [draco] | nice |
| 01:31.59 | Shirik | Cidan: Tired and confused |
| 01:32.21 | Cidan | Shirik: Me too. |
| 01:35.19 | Cidan | who what now? |
| 01:35.25 | Lopeppeppy | Which metro area? *laugh* |
| 01:35.31 | Cidan | Srsly. |
| 01:35.59 | Lunessa | "Andy crawled to freedom through five hundred yards of shit smelling foulness I can't even imagine, or maybe I just don't want too. Five hundred yards... that's the length of five football fields, just shy of half a mile. " ~Red |
| 01:37.17 | Shirik | Nechckn: Aside from me? |
| 01:37.24 | Cidan | And me? |
| 01:37.27 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 01:37.31 | Gnarfoz | this is weird: http://krautchan.net/b/thread-466992.html |
| 01:38.39 | kd3 | copies back up |
| 01:38.45 | Nechckn | Yes, Shirik, I was referring to the relatively rare appearance by the Cidan |
| 01:39.01 | Shirik | I was unaware you knew Cidan lived near me |
| 01:39.48 | Cidan | Huh |
| 01:39.55 | Cidan | You live near us eh? |
| 01:40.00 | Gnarfoz | the rarity of his appearances is probably related to a certain wine-drinking person metioned earlier? ;P |
| 01:40.01 | Cidan | Wait, wait, Shirik, you're not up here, are you? |
| 01:40.05 | Cidan | SHH |
| 01:40.14 | Shirik | no |
| 01:40.15 | Nechckn | Cidan yeah, in the city itself. |
| 01:40.29 | Cidan | Neat. |
| 01:40.40 | Cidan | We should go out for drinks! |
| 01:40.44 | Cidan | NO WAIT NOT REALLY |
| 01:41.29 | Shirik | Don't do it |
| 01:41.34 | Shirik | Nechckn will agree to it and then disapper |
| 01:41.35 | Shirik | disappear |
| 01:41.38 | Cidan | lol |
| 01:41.44 | Cidan | Oh right, you didn't see |
| 01:41.49 | Nechckn | yeah, and then the next day, Shirik will do the same.... |
| 01:41.53 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:42.00 | Cidan | Last night I drank way too much, woke up naked next to the girl I'm dating, D: |
| 01:42.11 | Shirik | Yes um |
| 01:42.15 | Shirik | I'm glad I didn't see? |
| 01:42.21 | Cidan | You should have been there. |
| 01:42.27 | Shirik | no I really shouldn't have |
| 01:42.40 | Cidan | I disagree. |
| 01:42.54 | Cidan | When is your spring break? |
| 01:42.57 | Nechckn | It's better to have the video camera on auto... Shirik in the room would be sort of uncomfortable, I'd think. |
| 01:43.08 | Shirik | hell if I know |
| 01:43.24 | Cidan | Shirik: D: |
| 01:43.49 | Nechckn | Hmm... Wowi mid-Atlantic spring conference? |
| 01:43.58 | Nechckn | sorry, WowUiDev =) |
| 01:44.07 | Tekkub | nah, WoWI |
| 01:44.52 | Nechckn | I was going for that, then thought it'd be more inclusive. |
| 01:45.21 | Shirik | exclusive is good |
| 01:45.42 | Tekkub | yea we don't want kael showing up |
| 01:45.48 | Shirik | ouch |
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| 01:45.48 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Zootfizzle] by ChanServ |
| 01:45.53 | Shirik | Zootfizzle can come |
| 01:46.00 | Tekkub | all over my chest |
| 01:46.04 | Shirik | ... |
| 01:46.10 | Nechckn | oh.my. |
| 01:46.19 | Lopeppeppy | Tek. Bad man. |
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| 01:46.26 | Tekkub | don't worry zoot, you know I like em big and hairy |
| 01:46.34 | Shirik | ~lart Tekkub |
| 01:46.34 | purl | sends a legion of lawyers after Tekkub's head |
| 01:46.40 | Lopeppeppy | If you guys got some East Coast thing arranged, I'd try to make it down there. |
| 01:46.46 | Nechckn | though it's a bit of a drive from Curse HQ to the DC area |
| 01:46.46 | Zootfizzle | Sorry Tekkub, you're sweet but not my type :P |
| 01:46.49 | Shirik | well, see Lopeppeppy |
| 01:46.53 | Shirik | problem is, we all live near DC |
| 01:46.56 | Shirik | so for the 3 of us it's easy |
| 01:46.58 | Tekkub | :P |
| 01:46.58 | Shirik | for the rest... |
| 01:47.07 | Tekkub | and how the hell do you know what I taste like? |
| 01:47.24 | Lopeppeppy | There are trains, Shirik. Or it can be an all-male party and I'll stay home and wash my hair. |
| 01:47.24 | Zootfizzle | We don't talk about that. |
| 01:47.29 | Dagmar | Yeah um, you should probably lock your doors before you go to sleep. |
| 01:47.40 | Shirik | you don't wash your hair Lopeppeppy? |
| 01:47.58 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik... dear... that's a figure of speech from the 50's. It's okay. |
| 01:48.03 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:48.21 | Shirik | I was only -30 in the 50s |
| 01:48.26 | Tekkub | what she's trying to say is, no, she doesn't |
| 01:48.35 | Tekkub | but you're so boring that she'd rather do that |
| 01:48.40 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:48.55 | Tekkub | you bore people into good hygene |
| 01:48.58 | WobWork | A more modern version would be: "I'm sorry, I can't come, I have to go vacuum my fish" |
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| 01:49.03 | Tekkub | what kind of nerd are you? |
| 01:49.03 | Lopeppeppy | Tek.. you're playing rough this evening. Go eat some honey. |
| 01:49.04 | Zootfizzle | Wait, was I invited to a party? |
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| 01:49.16 | Tekkub | I actually don't like honey at all :P |
| 01:49.18 | Shirik | well that's when I said you can come |
| 01:49.20 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, you were, to a putative East Coast gathering I'm not invited to because I'm a girl. |
| 01:49.23 | Shirik | and then Tekkub turned it the other way |
| 01:49.25 | Tekkub | I'll blame chipotle, it still burns |
| 01:49.36 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy I never said you're not invited! |
| 01:49.38 | AbsolutRayne_ | Yay, got Berserking on my Rogueys Dagger |
| 01:49.39 | AbsolutRayne_ | :D |
| 01:49.46 | Zootfizzle | But you never said she was |
| 01:49.52 | Zootfizzle | And anything to that effect you say now cannot be trusted! |
| 01:49.54 | Lopeppeppy | Point for the gnomes. |
| 01:49.57 | Shirik | :< |
| 01:50.03 | Lopeppeppy | *hug* |
| 01:50.14 | kd3 | zoot; we'll invite you if [flyable] gets fixed |
| 01:50.19 | Shirik | fixed? |
| 01:50.27 | WobWork | in Dalaran? =P |
| 01:50.27 | Tekkub | there needs to be some big present in 3.1 for us devs |
| 01:50.35 | Tekkub | the raiders get all the presents |
| 01:50.36 | Zootfizzle | Okay |
| 01:50.38 | Shirik | tbh I think its current functionality is fine |
| 01:50.39 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, there will be an AWESOME present!!! |
| 01:50.41 | Zootfizzle | How about I give you a present right now? |
| 01:50.45 | WobWork | woo |
| 01:50.46 | kd3 | sure |
| 01:50.49 | Shirik | I want a present :( |
| 01:50.51 | Lopeppeppy | ... you'll get the freakin' patch and LIKE it, mister. |
| 01:51.03 | Zootfizzle | In 3.1 there's a new XML attribute, parentKey |
| 01:51.09 | Tekkub | I thought you didn't want to come on my chest |
| 01:51.21 | Tekkub | XML is never a present! |
| 01:51.30 | Lunessa | Damn Tekky - feeling some needs? |
| 01:51.30 | WobWork | Tekkub: he did specify that it was a present for -everyone- |
| 01:51.31 | Zootfizzle | But it sets table keys in Lua on parent objects instead of names =( |
| 01:51.37 | Shirik | <Present to="Tekkub" /> |
| 01:51.51 | Zootfizzle | Well, you can use it instead of names |
| 01:52.06 | Zootfizzle | <Frame name="Test"> <Frames> <Button parentKey="button"> </Frames> </Frame> |
| 01:52.15 | Zootfizzle | Test.button == the button |
| 01:52.21 | AbsolutRayne_ | http://i40.tinypic.com/mlrrqd.jpg |
| 01:52.22 | Shirik | invalid xml detected! |
| 01:52.35 | Tekkub | failML! |
| 01:52.42 | Zootfizzle | s/"button">/"button"//>/ |
| 01:52.45 | Zootfizzle | :P |
| 01:52.47 | Shirik | :) |
| 01:53.12 | Zootfizzle | There are more presents that aren't XML presents! |
| 01:53.17 | Zootfizzle | PTR soon! |
| 01:53.20 | Zootfizzle | Everyone can open presents |
| 01:53.20 | Shirik | yey |
| 01:53.28 | Shirik | ~soon |
| 01:53.29 | purl | soon is, like, well before heat death, or http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
| 01:53.38 | kd3 | yup. very eagerly looking forward to firing off an email full of presents |
| 01:53.47 | Lunessa | Hey Zootfizzle, I say you need XML attribute privateKey, publicKey, and parentsOutofTownKey |
| 01:54.24 | Shirik | ~lart Lunessa |
| 01:54.24 | purl | does a little 'dpkg -P Lunessa' action |
| 01:54.36 | Tekkub | PTR's slowly installing.... |
| 01:54.38 | Lunessa | harsh purl, harsh. |
| 01:54.40 | Tekkub | slooooooooowly |
| 01:54.48 | Tekkub | 25% /cry |
| 01:55.00 | Shirik | btw |
| 01:55.06 | NeoTron | somg MMO Champion is broken. Bibi`, you're our only hope. |
| 01:55.07 | Shirik | PTR copies are open right now (were full earlier) |
| 01:55.09 | NeoTron | ./starttimer |
| 01:55.11 | Shirik | for anyone that was looking |
| 01:55.18 | kd3 | slowrik is slow |
| 01:55.20 | Tekkub | already got two queued! |
| 01:55.28 | NeoTron | damn I can't queue |
| 01:55.33 | Tekkub | wow, bitching about installer works great |
| 01:55.35 | NeoTron | I need the authenticator that's at home :P |
| 01:55.37 | Tekkub | it just jumped to 60% |
| 01:55.45 | Tekkub | now 77%, fuck |
| 01:55.47 | AbsolutRayne | Anyone got a link for the character copy? |
| 01:55.53 | Shirik | https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/charcopy/character-copy.html |
| 01:55.56 | kd3 | https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/charcopy/character-copy.html |
| 01:56.01 | Shirik | slow kd3 is slow |
| 01:56.10 | Tekkub | 0-25% ~ 20 min... 26%-100% ~ 3 min |
| 01:56.19 | Tekkub | go go status bar! |
| 01:56.19 | NeoTron | I find it annoying that it needs the code to do that |
| 01:56.38 | kd3 | neo; you are technically logged in to account admin on the ptr page |
| 01:56.44 | Stanzilla | was the installer updated or do we use that 3.0.1 thingy? |
| 01:56.56 | Tekkub | lawl, and it loads the old launcher then updates it |
| 01:57.03 | kd3 | tek; yup |
| 01:57.07 | NeoTron | I know I know |
| 01:57.16 | Tekkub | and another 400MiB of patch, yuzzah |
| 01:58.03 | Esamynn|Work | is the PTR creating an entirely new copy of WoW again? |
| 01:58.06 | AbsolutRayne | Tekkub: Srsly?: |
| 01:58.09 | AbsolutRayne | :| |
| 01:58.10 | Tekkub | wtb that instant start playing while the rest of the game streams down for PTR, PST! |
| 01:58.25 | Tekkub | yea it says it's 0.0.8 |
| 01:58.36 | AbsolutRayne | NEat |
| 01:58.40 | NeoTron | so does this mean that the PTR patch now can be downloaded? |
| 01:59.00 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1! |
| 01:59.00 | Shirik | ping |
| 01:59.06 | Tekkub | ... did I just install the last PTR? |
| 01:59.07 | kd3 | es; yes. the ptr's acting like beta |
| 01:59.12 | kd3 | tek; you just installed the last ptr |
| 01:59.17 | Tekkub | GOD DAMNIT |
| 01:59.22 | kd3 | but it should hopefully patch up to .1.0 |
| 01:59.23 | Esamynn|Work | das es wery stupid |
| 01:59.23 | Tekkub | I blame Zoot |
| 01:59.33 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Tekkub |
| 01:59.33 | purl | blames Tekkub for all the evil in the world |
| 01:59.37 | Zootfizzle | Hey, don't blame me, I just gave you a present and you made a face at it :P |
| 01:59.47 | Esamynn|Work | wow, how *VERY* appropriate purl |
| 01:59.48 | Tekkub | XML isn't a present! |
| 01:59.49 | Esamynn|Work | ~botsnack |
| 01:59.49 | purl | thanks, Esamynn|Work |
| 01:59.49 | NeoTron | kd3: seriously? it duplicates disk space now? before it just added files but used the actual wow-install |
| 01:59.51 | Tekkub | it's torture! |
| 01:59.58 | kd3 | ooh, new world event |
| 02:00.03 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15198917105&sid=1 |
| 02:00.07 | Lopeppeppy | Then say thank you for the torture, Tekkub, you ungrateful bastard. |
| 02:00.09 | kd3 | neo; it has since ~3.0 |
| 02:00.24 | Tekkub | I'm not into BDSM :P |
| 02:00.37 | NeoTron | I haven't been on a PTR after beta testing |
| 02:00.42 | Lopeppeppy | Then stfu or you'll get more of it than you want. :) |
| 02:00.43 | NeoTron | how nice to duplicate 17 GB of data :P |
| 02:00.56 | Zootfizzle | How about icons on the minimap for group and raid members now appear with class colors? :p |
| 02:00.59 | Zootfizzle | Is that a good present? |
| 02:01.03 | Esamynn|Work | NeoTron: acutally, it's only about 10GB, try deleting your patch files sometime :P |
| 02:01.17 | kd3 | zoot; ooh, pretty |
| 02:01.17 | Lunessa | Zootfizzle: that's a good present. |
| 02:01.20 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, colors! |
| 02:01.30 | Esamynn|Work | Lopeppeppy: no, Colours |
| 02:01.36 | Zootfizzle | And vehicles appear on the minimap in Wintergrasp |
| 02:01.37 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Esamynn|Work!n=Shirik@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (bye) |
| 02:01.40 | Shirik | colors |
| 02:01.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Esamynn|Work (n=chatzill@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Esamynn) |
| 02:01.47 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Esamynn|Work] by ChanServ |
| 02:01.54 | Stanzilla | wtb class colors in chat :> |
| 02:02.01 | Shirik | don't be a spelling nazi if you can't spell correctly, Esamynn|Work |
| 02:02.03 | Shirik | ^_^ |
| 02:02.12 | Esamynn|Work | Shirik: Learn2English :P |
| 02:02.13 | NeoTron | Esamynn|Work: more like 13 GB for the Data folder alone |
| 02:02.16 | Shirik | nou |
| 02:02.19 | Zootfizzle | Stanzilla: We're out of stock but I'll put it on the reorder list =) |
| 02:02.27 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 02:02.40 | Lunessa | Damn, I need to read the diffs again. |
| 02:02.48 | Esamynn|Work | NeoTron: well that's like 95% of it :P |
| 02:02.56 | Esamynn|Work | or more |
| 02:03.33 | NeoTron | beta was bigger because the files weren't in neat archives |
| 02:03.56 | NeoTron | still 12-13 GB is more than 400 MB :P |
| 02:04.03 | Esamynn|Work | yup |
| 02:04.14 | Esamynn|Work | WTB old style PTR patches |
| 02:04.24 | Esamynn|Work | the new system sucks |
| 02:04.26 | NeoTron | not a problem on my current box but I couldn't even install WotLK on my old old box (not enough disk space) |
| 02:04.48 | Shirik | :( I was doing something, then Esamynn|Work distracted me |
| 02:04.54 | NeoTron | the new system does have the benefit of being closer to live, meaning no special hacks to fidn the data files |
| 02:04.58 | Esamynn|Work | Shirik: :P |
| 02:05.04 | Shirik | now I forgot what I was doing |
| 02:05.07 | Shirik | oh right |
| 02:05.24 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Argent_Tournament |
| 02:06.26 | *** part/#wowuidev Zootfizzle (i=c64a263b@WoWUIDev/Blizz/Zooty-Zoot-Zoot) |
| 02:06.43 | Nechckn | "new mounted combat system", sexy |
| 02:07.12 | Dagmar | Hmm... Icecrown's come a long way to go from "battlefront for the most dire threat the living world has ever known" to "party central" |
| 02:07.26 | Lunessa | "I want to warn people from Nigeria. if you get any emails from Washington asking for money, it's a scam. Don't fall for it" |
| 02:07.38 | Esamynn|Work | ... |
| 02:07.50 | Dagmar | HAHAH |
| 02:08.13 | Tekkub | bah I'm out of disk space, fuck PTR client |
| 02:08.21 | kd3 | out of disk space? |
| 02:08.22 | Dagmar | Let me ask around... I thinkn I can find a mail server you can send those from if you can find a list of confirmed Nigerian email addresses |
| 02:08.23 | kd3 | what is this? |
| 02:08.45 | Dagmar | kd3: It's what happens to people who haven't bought a disk in the last year |
| 02:09.51 | Esamynn|Work | NeoTron: actually, from my understanding of how the client reads data files, the old PTR system really didn't require much in the way of special code |
| 02:11.35 | NeoTron | one benefit with the new system - we get to see Tekkub swear about running out of disk space |
| 02:11.52 | kd3 | queue full |
| 02:11.57 | Tekkub | tekkub only runs a 40GB for his system :P |
| 02:12.12 | Dagmar | In Tekkub's defense, people who have bought a disk in tha last calendar year are still trying to figure out what their grandchildren will be doing with that extra space |
| 02:12.13 | NeoTron | kd3: bah :P |
| 02:12.14 | Tekkub | and I have another old 40 in there, but it had a big ass OSX VM on it |
| 02:12.39 | Tekkub | I need to just get a fast lil SATA2 drive to put wow on :P |
| 02:12.49 | Lunessa | Wait... I fill disks routinely. Usually with DVR'ed stuff. |
| 02:13.00 | Tekkub | might make dalaran suck slightly less during peak hours |
| 02:13.07 | Dagmar | You can drop "lil" off that |
| 02:13.13 | Tekkub | Lunessa, some people delete shows after they watch them |
| 02:13.21 | Dagmar | You'll be lucky to find a disk smaller than half a terabyte now |
| 02:13.23 | Tekkub | 80GB == lil :P |
| 02:13.32 | Lunessa | Tekkub: Ummm... why? I might want to watch it again. :P |
| 02:13.37 | Dagmar | well... one you're willing to buy anyway |
| 02:13.41 | Tekkub | I never rewatch |
| 02:13.48 | Tekkub | I've seen it before, I know what will happen |
| 02:14.01 | NeoTron | Tekkub: get a fast little SSD :P |
| 02:14.11 | Tekkub | I keep thinking I should do that too |
| 02:14.39 | Dagmar | HD broadcasts max out at what, 11Gb per hour? One 500Gb disk would probably be enough |
| 02:14.51 | NeoTron | probably not worth getting a 80 GB disk today |
| 02:15.04 | Tekkub | why not? |
| 02:15.12 | NeoTron | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145233 1 TB for 87 bucks |
| 02:15.24 | Dagmar | Because you can get an external one larger than every disk in your house put together for under $100 |
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| 02:15.33 | Tekkub | I don't give a fuck about size |
| 02:15.39 | Lopeppeppy | I just want a desktop that works. *mourns* |
| 02:15.40 | Dagmar | ..and the 4Tb units are less than a year away from market |
| 02:15.42 | Tekkub | I have a fileserver for that |
| 02:15.57 | Tekkub | if anything, I want something fast |
| 02:16.01 | NeoTron | just the price per GB is much higher for a small disk |
| 02:16.04 | Dagmar | You may *have* to buy an SSD then if you want something "only" 80GB in size |
| 02:16.32 | Tekkub | Dagmar, try newegg sometime |
| 02:16.39 | Dagmar | I do. |
| 02:16.45 | Tekkub | it's like $35 for 80GB SATA2's :P |
| 02:16.51 | Dagmar | That's why I've got a 2Tb array now |
| 02:17.07 | NeoTron | and$ 48 for 250GB |
| 02:17.13 | NeoTron | so for 13 bucks more you get >3x the space |
| 02:17.20 | Dagmar | The curve on price per Gb is insane now |
| 02:17.40 | Dagmar | It's _really_ hard to say "Nah, I don't want to double the disk size for ten bucks" |
| 02:18.01 | NeoTron | and $50 for 320 GB |
| 02:18.54 | Dagmar | If CPUs were gaining power the way disk space is ballooning now, we'd only be about three years away from the next line of CPUs telling us how to build their replacements. |
| 02:18.55 | Tekkub | and as I said already, I don't give a fuck about the space |
| 02:19.06 | Tekkub | it won't be used |
| 02:19.29 | Tekkub | I've run 40GB for years now, and I'm only hitting the limit on that because of wow |
| 02:20.15 | NeoTron | still doesn't seem to make sense to not pay 16 bucks more and never run out |
| 02:20.32 | NeoTron | or heck pay 15 bucks more, double the space and get 16 MB cache instead of 8 |
| 02:20.58 | Tekkub | Trey is unemployed, $15 for space I don't need doesn't make sense |
| 02:21.08 | Dagmar | I know the feeling. When I put a 250Gb drive in my desktop ($80 at the time) I still had half of the thing free as scratch and that's after cloning my linux dev stuff to add three new sets of installations |
| 02:21.16 | Tekkub | hence why I've not bought a drive at all yet |
| 02:21.27 | NeoTron | fair enough |
| 02:21.31 | *** join/#wowuidev Riffage- (n=nnscript@78-86-205-138.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 02:21.46 | Tekkub | if he had a job, I'd just probably drop $50 |
| 02:21.51 | Tekkub | get whatever that buys |
| 02:22.22 | NeoTron | so an app with this: Optional role ideas: i am a hardcore DPS i do about 3300-3500 + DPS in raids |
| 02:22.24 | Tekkub | and whatever the fuck is taking over my mouse focus is beginning to piss me off |
| 02:22.37 | Tekkub | it's acting like an "always on top" invisible window |
| 02:22.42 | NeoTron | from a hunter told me right then that this guy is young... and a few lines down - 16 |
| 02:22.47 | Tekkub | I click something it doesn't get focus |
| 02:23.01 | Shirik | ~dict harangued |
| 02:23.05 | Tekkub | I've killed everything I can think of and it's still doing it |
| 02:23.13 | Shirik | fu purl |
| 02:23.22 | Lunessa | Tekkub: Clean the mouse? |
| 02:23.31 | Tekkub | it's not a hardware prolem |
| 02:23.40 | Tekkub | alt-tab to a window |
| 02:23.56 | Tekkub | move mouse to window's titlebar, click, window LOSES focus |
| 02:23.57 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik: badgered, harassed, lectured. |
| 02:24.09 | Tekkub | but some windows are above it and work correctly |
| 02:24.18 | Tekkub | logout/in fixes, but I hate doing that |
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| 02:25.07 | Tekkub | but some windows are above it and work correctly |
| 02:26.32 | Tekkub | yet the window DOES receive mousewheel, just not clicks |
| 02:27.14 | Tekkub | and it just fixed itself.... so which app that I killed was it? |
| 02:27.42 | Lopeppeppy | ... which apps did you kill, silly? |
| 02:27.46 | Lunessa | gah. Tekkub That's a mess. |
| 02:28.37 | Tekkub | I'm wondering if it's autohotkey |
| 02:28.42 | Dagmar | If you've been to Facebook recently you might want to go ahead and start a malware scan |
| 02:28.55 | Lopeppeppy | Just like Peppy has. |
| 02:29.17 | Tekkub | lolbook |
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| 02:29.52 | Kirov | If you've been to Facebook recently you might want to go ahead and start a life priority check |
| 02:30.30 | Tekkub | If you've been on facebook recently... fuck it you're not even listening to logic already |
| 02:30.35 | Lopeppeppy | Have to be there for work, no choice. |
| 02:30.52 | Tekkub | lol, that's some workfail there |
| 02:30.55 | Esamynn|Work | O_o |
| 02:31.10 | Dagmar | Still, Facebook isn't the only site to be wooed into taking ad banners in exchange for Russian Crime Syndicate dollars. |
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| 02:31.47 | Esamynn|Work | ooh, the forums died |
| 02:32.01 | Tekkub | yea but that's like saying that just because your batroom has a guy with towels doesn't make it the shittiest room in the building |
| 02:32.17 | Lopeppeppy | Ever see Dirty Jobs? |
| 02:32.18 | Esamynn|Work | oh no, just the Ui forums |
| 02:32.24 | WobWork | BATROOM |
| 02:32.28 | Tekkub | no cable :) |
| 02:32.36 | WobWork | (na na na na na na na na BAT ROOM!) |
| 02:32.38 | Mike-N-Go | Arrowmaster: I think I fixed the libs of WintergraspTimer. |
| 02:32.53 | Tekkub | WobWork, you KNOW he's got a guy with towels in his batroom |
| 02:33.23 | Tekkub | I just thought of the present Zoot can give us! |
| 02:33.36 | Tekkub | a globally accessible API for the witergrasp time |
| 02:33.38 | WobWork | does it involve nakedness? |
| 02:33.46 | Tekkub | wintergrasp even |
| 02:33.52 | AbsolutRayne | Man |
| 02:34.00 | Tekkub | it could, do you wintergrasp nekkid? |
| 02:34.02 | AbsolutRayne | I get so many hate tells on my Rogue |
| 02:34.04 | AbsolutRayne | its kinda funny |
| 02:34.07 | Esamynn|Work | Tekkub: that might be harder than you think ;) |
| 02:34.21 | Esamynn|Work | given that only the Northrend server actively knows WG's state |
| 02:34.22 | WobWork | AbsolutRayne: You're just a gankin, and they're a hatin? |
| 02:34.24 | Tekkub | harder my ass |
| 02:34.34 | Tekkub | so fine, only in NR |
| 02:34.41 | AbsolutRayne | WobWork: No, ill showyou |
| 02:34.49 | Tekkub | or just only update it every 5 min |
| 02:34.55 | AbsolutRayne | if Armory isnt down |
| 02:34.58 | Tekkub | doesn't have to be spot on exact |
| 02:35.02 | AbsolutRayne | Which it seems to be |
| 02:35.27 | AbsolutRayne | Yeah, armorys down |
| 02:36.03 | AbsolutRayne | WobWork: Basically, im running around HAT spec, half blue gear still and swining around Sinister Revenge |
| 02:36.58 | Lunessa | Facebook, it's scary when your boss uses it to IM you at work. |
| 02:37.05 | WobWork | It's been so long since I've rogued. I've heard about HAT, but aside from combo point swapping, what does it do? |
| 02:37.21 | Tekkub | thank you PTR for not copying over WTF and instead trying to launch in the default shitty fullscreen |
| 02:37.44 | AbsolutRayne | WobWork: Its not swapping, more of stacking |
| 02:37.46 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, no lie, the grand-boss DOES!!!! |
| 02:38.03 | Lunessa | My boss just did. She's at home. |
| 02:38.12 | Lopeppeppy | Oh god. Poor thing. |
| 02:38.27 | Tekkub | hook the bitch up with gmail and gtalk |
| 02:40.12 | AbsolutRayne | <3 Thornley |
| 02:40.17 | Lunessa | Tekkub: Um, no. I want a place where she can't reach me. You know, a space where work does not invade my digital life. |
| 02:41.03 | Tekkub | l2ignore work when it's appropriate? |
| 02:41.29 | Tekkub | I don't work on weekend unless I got nothing to do or shit hit the fan bigtime or I just need the hours |
| 02:41.58 | Lunessa | Tekkub: I'm very good at unplugging. I just don't want to deal with the people who aren't. |
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| 03:07.02 | AbsolutRayne | Oh hey, Armorys back |
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| 03:26.05 | Cairenn | kd3: can I smack him, please? pretty please? he's seriously annoying me |
| 03:26.20 | kd3 | be my guest |
| 03:26.32 | Cairenn | and definitely not taking a hint |
| 03:26.34 | kd3 | I was halfway there myself |
| 03:26.49 | alestane | pthewhawhohuh? |
| 03:26.59 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, yes. i dont know whowhaywhyhowwhen, but yes |
| 03:27.15 | Thunder_Child | s/y/t/ |
| 03:27.20 | Thunder_Child | .... |
| 03:27.23 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:27.49 | Cairenn | just someone being an ass in the wiki channel, no big deal |
| 03:27.51 | Cairenn | :) |
| 03:27.53 | alestane | "s/ay/at/"? |
| 03:28.26 | Thunder_Child | i know alestane, i just missed the first y |
| 03:28.32 | Thunder_Child | thought it was the first |
| 03:29.35 | Thunder_Child | if only i could pick locks like i could fix computers i would be incredawealthy |
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| 03:31.24 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 03:31.44 | Cairenn | evening Iriel |
| 03:31.52 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, make me a.....pony |
| 03:32.34 | Iriel | *waves hands*... You are now... a pony! |
| 03:39.48 | Gnarfoz | freaks :p |
| 03:42.54 | Tekkub | what do I want for dinner? |
| 03:43.18 | Cairenn | food |
| 03:43.20 | Gnarfoz | ponies. |
| 03:43.31 | Tekkub | which type of food though |
| 03:43.52 | Cairenn | the type you eat |
| 03:44.07 | Tekkub | still not enough detail |
| 03:44.38 | Gnarfoz | ponies! |
| 03:44.47 | Tekkub | I don't like ponies |
| 03:45.18 | Gnarfoz | with bacon? |
| 03:45.37 | Tekkub | can't cover up the flavor |
| 03:45.39 | WobWork | italian |
| 03:45.49 | AbsolutRayne | http://www.mbari.org/midwater/macropinna/ Check this out |
| 03:45.54 | AbsolutRayne | a fish with a see-through head |
| 03:46.20 | Tekkub | uh, guppies? |
| 03:47.11 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, chineese |
| 03:47.21 | Tekkub | had that sat |
| 03:47.29 | Thunder_Child | never to often |
| 03:47.45 | Tekkub | plus the place closes in 15 min |
| 03:48.30 | Kirov | That's almost as scary as my first girlfriend |
| 03:48.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: ! |
| 03:48.51 | Shirik | nm I figured it out |
| 03:48.52 | Shirik | you sux |
| 03:48.57 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 03:49.43 | Thunder_Child | harsh Shirik, harsh |
| 03:50.03 | Shirik | I was trying to figure out how to determine if a private key and a cert were a pair |
| 03:50.07 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:50.17 | Shirik | just look at the exponents and see if they're identical |
| 03:50.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Or you can stop with ambigous naming |
| 03:50.46 | Shirik | Well |
| 03:50.51 | Shirik | we were getting an error saying they weren't related |
| 03:51.08 | Shirik | 2009-02-23 20:16:09: (network.c.377) SSL: Private key does not match the certificate public key |
| 03:51.15 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:51.25 | Shirik | figured it out though |
| 03:51.37 | Shirik | it wanted the pem file to be both the private key and the cert |
| 03:51.44 | Shirik | and the cert file is the CA cert |
| 03:51.46 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 03:51.51 | ScytheBlade1 | yes, that is semi-common |
| 03:52.16 | Shirik | but |
| 03:52.21 | Shirik | I just realized, I need to trash these keys anyway |
| 03:52.40 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:52.42 | Shirik | I have been advised to structure the system as CA->Sub-CA->Certs |
| 03:52.45 | Shirik | instead of just CA->Certs |
| 03:56.04 | Cidan | mmm |
| 03:56.05 | Cidan | certs. |
| 03:56.13 | Cidan | self signed? |
| 03:58.56 | Shirik | I ain't paying money for something that's going to be free |
| 03:59.05 | Shirik | I already pay enough |
| 04:00.59 | Thunder_Child | make more money |
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| 04:05.48 | Thunder_Child | as soon as i find out what addon is blocking certian whispers i am killing the author |
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| 04:06.41 | Tem | quick, I need a build for an enh shammy |
| 04:06.43 | Tem | raid spec |
| 04:08.25 | Lunessa | tem - look at mine - Unkle, Kirin Tor US |
| 04:10.08 | Lunessa | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Kirin+Tor&n=Unkle |
| 04:13.51 | Thunder_Child | unkle tom >.< |
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| 04:15.39 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.greenerideal.com/lifestyle/cool-green-product-living-bath-mat-made-of-moss/ |
| 04:15.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ cool |
| 04:19.18 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: I can't be an Uncle Tom, I'm white. |
| 04:20.27 | Thunder_Child | i meant your char Lunessa |
| 04:21.02 | Lunessa | Oh him. He's blue. |
| 04:22.19 | Thunder_Child | you need to be black to BE uncle tom, you do not need to be black to be AN uncle tom |
| 04:23.08 | Shirik | wewt, frostwolf perfection |
| 04:23.39 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Tom |
| 04:25.40 | kd3 | yay, my copy's gone through |
| 04:25.49 | kd3 | now all I need is the client to play it with |
| 04:26.08 | Cidan | eh? |
| 04:26.37 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: That bathmat is cool, but how to keep it from growing wild? |
| 04:26.40 | kd3 | ptr |
| 04:26.56 | Fisker- | the ptr is a lie :( |
| 04:27.17 | Tekkub | how do you keep your cats from EATING it |
| 04:27.49 | Iriel | Moss generally grows out, not up, and your bathroom floor hopefully wont support that |
| 04:27.58 | Iriel | as for your cats, you can't stop cats from trying to eat anything |
| 04:29.09 | Lunessa | Iriel: it's a cool idea, I'm just worried that it wouldn't be long before my entire bathroom floor (linoleum) would be a moss "bathmat" |
| 04:29.37 | Thunder_Child | http://i.gizmodo.com/5159100/make-this-please-baby-slippers |
| 04:29.42 | Lunessa | Of course, in some places (public restrooms) that could be a plus. |
| 04:30.01 | Shirik | wtf Thunder_Child |
| 04:30.09 | Tekkub | the roses Trey got me had a few long pieces of gras in it as filler... |
| 04:30.14 | Tekkub | they're not so long anymore |
| 04:30.21 | Thunder_Child | you know you want them Shirik |
| 04:30.30 | Tekkub | and the ends are all chewed up |
| 04:30.35 | Iriel | We buy fake decorators grass as cat toys |
| 04:30.41 | Iriel | great value for money |
| 04:31.05 | Tekkub | they have "cat grass" at the store from time to time, we buy it and she eats on it for a month or so |
| 04:31.28 | Tekkub | and if Trey puts out birdseed again, the planters outside will end up growing grass too |
| 04:31.36 | Lunessa | I used to use old socks washed and stuffed into each other as cat toys. |
| 04:33.10 | Tekkub | you let your cats play with cumsocks? eew |
| 04:33.17 | kd3 | ptr copies up |
| 04:33.51 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out. Hasta lo vista, babies. |
| 04:34.31 | Tekkub | yea my copies went through too |
| 04:37.42 | Thunder_Child | so did mine, weeee |
| 04:38.16 | Shirik | heh |
| 04:38.19 | Shirik | ./configure |
| 04:38.25 | Shirik | Operating system: i686-whatever-cygwin |
| 04:38.28 | Shirik | I like the "whatever" |
| 04:39.19 | Iriel | if I were buying a new PC for gaming, and my choices were vista 64 ultimate or home premium, which should I pick? |
| 04:39.27 | Thunder_Child | win7 |
| 04:39.28 | Tekkub | It amazes me that in like 15 years processors have only progressed 200 |
| 04:39.33 | Tekkub | *hides* |
| 04:39.37 | Iriel | (useless answers like 'neither' or 'xp' or 'windows 7' are worthless to me) |
| 04:39.37 | Thunder_Child | granted i like vista |
| 04:39.42 | Thunder_Child | ult |
| 04:39.44 | Thunder_Child | then |
| 04:40.01 | Iriel | why ultimate over premium? I've never figured out if there's a difference I care about |
| 04:40.02 | Tekkub | Iriel, Utl.. but also I don't condone paying for it ^^ |
| 04:40.05 | Shirik | Home premium, Iriel |
| 04:40.20 | Shirik | There's no real useful benefits to Ultimate except for home office / business features |
| 04:40.22 | Thunder_Child | my question is why woudlnt you? |
| 04:40.24 | Sixen | How's the PTR Forums looking? |
| 04:40.26 | Tekkub | because not-ult is gimed in one way or another, and it's retarded that you even have to worry about that |
| 04:40.28 | Shirik | I get Ultimate just because it's the same price |
| 04:40.29 | Shirik | $0 |
| 04:40.31 | Shirik | ^_^ |
| 04:40.33 | Shirik | MSDN ftw |
| 04:40.33 | kd3 | ok. dres is on doing cleanup duty |
| 04:40.36 | Iriel | Because I could spend the $100 or so for something else |
| 04:40.49 | Thunder_Child | whatever is cheaper then |
| 04:40.50 | Shirik | Home premium is certainly all you need |
| 04:40.57 | Tekkub | I'm with Shirim here, get the $0 Ultimate |
| 04:41.05 | Sixen | hrm k |
| 04:41.13 | Iriel | I'm just curious what's gimped, hm. |
| 04:41.21 | Corrodias | server 2008 is Where It's At. |
| 04:41.29 | Shirik | Iriel: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/compare-editions/default.aspx |
| 04:41.56 | Shirik | the "Additional programs and features" is crap |
| 04:42.24 | Iriel | WTF -- remote desktop requires ultimate |
| 04:42.26 | Tekkub | that they are |
| 04:42.39 | Shirik | Yes Iriel |
| 04:42.40 | Thunder_Child | and i still cant get the damn thing to work |
| 04:42.42 | Cidan | Windows 7 ftw. |
| 04:42.43 | Shirik | they've always done that |
| 04:42.49 | Shirik | Remote desktop requires pro in XP |
| 04:42.50 | Shirik | etc. |
| 04:42.55 | Tekkub | what did I just say? not-ult is gimped, every one of em |
| 04:42.59 | Shirik | FYI they mean "Incoming remote desktop" |
| 04:43.02 | Shirik | not outgoing |
| 04:43.11 | Shirik | they also don't mean remote assistance |
| 04:43.17 | Tekkub | RA is crap :P |
| 04:43.54 | Iriel | Why would I need outgoing remote desktop? 8-) |
| 04:44.08 | Iriel | Incoming remote desktop is essential for restarting windows after a video driver fail |
| 04:44.22 | Tekkub | just quit your bitching and go download ultimate |
| 04:44.52 | Tekkub | I wonder how many versions win7 will have.. |
| 04:44.56 | kd3 | 348405 |
| 04:44.58 | Cidan | same |
| 04:45.01 | kd3 | it's already been announced |
| 04:45.04 | Cidan | they're doing the same thing |
| 04:45.17 | Tekkub | we had what, 2 in xp, 4 in vista |
| 04:45.28 | Tekkub | so logically, 8 versions of Win7 |
| 04:45.42 | Cidan | 16 |
| 04:45.43 | Cidan | 32 |
| 04:45.44 | Cidan | 64 |
| 04:45.44 | Cidan | etc |
| 04:45.46 | Cidan | D: |
| 04:45.48 | Cidan | NoooOo |
| 04:46.01 | Tekkub | 1 2000, 2 XP, 4 Vista |
| 04:46.08 | Tekkub | it's an obvious pattern :) |
| 04:48.41 | Cidan | lua> 2 |
| 04:48.41 | lua_bot | Cidan: 2 |
| 04:48.46 | Cidan | lua> 2^64 |
| 04:48.46 | lua_bot | Cidan: 1.844674407371e+19 |
| 04:48.59 | Cidan | lua> 2^32 |
| 04:48.59 | lua_bot | Cidan: 4294967296 |
| 04:50.31 | NeoTron | so if I install the PTR client now, I wonder if it'll just patch up to 3.1 once released |
| 04:51.11 | kd3 | dunno |
| 04:51.20 | kd3 | copy queue's about full if anyone still needs to make their copy |
| 04:51.33 | NeoTron | just got mine done |
| 04:57.29 | Duman | hmm, status: pending |
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| 05:04.23 | Dagmar | Weird. The thing still shows the copy I tried to make last week. |
| 05:04.27 | Dagmar | I figured they'd flush that one |
| 05:04.41 | Dagmar | Ah well, two level 80 dwarves is better htan one I guess |
| 05:05.02 | Thunder_Child | "Your account must be completely logged out of the game before attempting a character copy. It could take up to 30 minutes for your account to be logged out completely after you exit the game." |
| 05:05.10 | Thunder_Child | didnt notice that |
| 05:05.32 | Dagmar | Well, it won't really matter until you see something other than "Pending" on the character copy status page |
| 05:05.34 | kd3 | don't worry about it. I copied while playing |
| 05:06.13 | Thunder_Child | kd3, i figured that to mean it wont trigger till you log out |
| 05:14.50 | ScytheBlade1 | sigh, crappy DVD drive |
| 05:15.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I torrent 3.9GB of fedora10 only to have the install fail due to my extra crappy drive |
| 05:15.21 | ScytheBlade1 | So I wind up just netinstalling it all anyway, sigh |
| 05:17.02 | Sixen | kd3:Especially since I still owe him something alcoholic... >.> |
| 05:17.06 | Sixen | keke. You going again this year? |
| 05:17.14 | Arrowmaster | i only ever do netinstalls of linux anyway, you dont even really need more than like 200mb for a base install |
| 05:17.24 | kd3 | probably |
| 05:17.43 | Sixen | mmm, we'll have to group up again |
| 05:17.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: my downstream has been... problematic. In the sense that I have far more upstream than down, and this is on a residential cable line. |
| 05:17.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: buy me a ticket |
| 05:17.48 | Sixen | Find Maaven/Hortus/Dreso |
| 05:17.54 | Sixen | Sbo, :P |
| 05:19.38 | Sixen | brb |
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| 05:25.03 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: poke, how do you get NV drivers installed under fedora? |
| 05:25.12 | ScytheBlade1 | emphasis "you" |
| 05:25.42 | kd3 | rpmfusion.org, get the repo-installer rpm, `yum install kmod-nvidia` |
| 05:26.07 | kd3 | repo-installer rpm: http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm |
| 05:26.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Already loading up a 3rd-party repo? |
| 05:26.18 | ScytheBlade1 | This feels dirty already |
| 05:26.38 | kd3 | fusion's an extension of extras for the patent-covered stuff that redhat/fedora can't ship |
| 05:26.53 | kd3 | pretty much all of them cover packages *in* fedora too. it's the same process |
| 05:26.59 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm |
| 05:27.58 | kd3 | I feel less icky about it than when I had to resort to atrpms or some of the ones before they all merged into fusion |
| 05:29.05 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm, older NV drivers |
| 05:29.18 | ScytheBlade1 | But it looks like it only has a small repo, so that feels a bit better |
| 05:30.04 | ScytheBlade1 | ........... @ evolution-help being 52MB |
| 05:30.21 | kd3 | it's evo. everything evo is massive |
| 05:31.03 | ScytheBlade1 | After my fifth time trying to get this to install, I didn't want to reconfigure every package just to have the install fail on me |
| 05:31.11 | ScytheBlade1 | So I just checked off gnome and selected KDE and went with it |
| 05:31.33 | ScytheBlade1 | And so, good ol' evolution |
| 05:34.49 | Cidan | l2debian |
| 05:34.52 | Cidan | xD |
| 05:34.58 | Corrodias | l2lesbian |
| 05:35.07 | Cidan | l2what. |
| 05:35.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Laptop is debian |
| 05:35.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I really wanted to give fedora a spin though |
| 05:35.40 | Cidan | started with slack, ending with debian |
| 05:35.47 | Tekkub | IT'S BACONATER |
| 05:39.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Not english, but: http://www.frazpc.pl/b/232621 |
| 05:39.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Win 3.1 on a Nokia N95 |
| 05:39.52 | Tekkub | downgrade? |
| 05:45.35 | kd3 | and the queue's full |
| 05:51.20 | batrick | so is there not going to be a 3.1 UI change compilation thread? |
| 05:52.17 | ScytheBlade1 | FINALLY |
| 05:53.18 | Cidan | real men do: shutdown -r now |
| 05:53.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Not when they don't have a shell they don't |
| 05:53.47 | Nechckn | init 6 |
| 05:54.41 | ScytheBlade1 | You're not every good at reading comprehension, are you? |
| 05:54.48 | kd3 | ptr 3.1.0 available |
| 05:55.53 | Iriel | batrick: There will be one, I just havent' posted it yet |
| 05:56.08 | batrick | ok thanks Iriel |
| 05:59.09 | Thunder_Child | atually Cidan, real men get pissed they cant do it and take it out back and use the shotgun on it |
| 05:59.20 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/patented.jpg |
| 05:59.34 | Cidan | 3.1 is avail? |
| 05:59.35 | Cidan | really? |
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| 06:01.29 | Iriel | batrick: I'd expect one to show up tomorrowish 8-) |
| 06:03.12 | batrick | i must admit this patch is a bit underwhelming |
| 06:06.40 | Shadowed | GO GO DIFFS |
| 06:06.44 | Shadowed | chop to it someone! |
| 06:06.50 | kd3 | waiting on the dl to finish |
| 06:07.50 | Cidan | lol |
| 06:07.52 | Cidan | poor kd3 |
| 06:10.26 | Thunder_Child | hardly |
| 06:11.32 | Duman | wait what |
| 06:12.43 | Duman | hmm, the client dl page still offers up 3.0.1 |
| 06:12.57 | kd3 | fire up the ptr itself |
| 06:13.00 | Duman | oh |
| 06:13.28 | ScytheBlade1 | fail. Should have enabled the update repo while installing |
| 06:13.36 | ScytheBlade1 | 617MB of updates to download |
| 06:14.45 | Duman | 733M dl, hmm |
| 06:17.33 | Sixen | rawr. |
| 06:21.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: ticket. buy. |
| 06:22.01 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
| 06:23.59 | jaxdahl | magnet is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:XHGKGYV3N65M4VV5PTBPT4KNFTSZ2EPO if anyone is interested in that |
| 06:24.34 | Sixen | :P |
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| 06:30.05 | Duman | ticket? |
| 06:30.19 | Duman | lobster sticks to magnet? |
| 06:31.00 | Sixen | blazzkawn! |
| 06:31.06 | Duman | ticket already? |
| 06:31.09 | Sixen | no |
| 06:31.11 | Duman | lol |
| 06:31.20 | Sixen | :P |
| 06:31.26 | Sixen | You get my e-mail the other day? |
| 06:31.32 | Duman | err hmm, did I? |
| 06:32.07 | Duman | hmm, I have no mail from you? |
| 06:32.16 | Sixen | =o. I replied to your 2nd e-mail. |
| 06:32.17 | Sixen | REPORTED FOR DA SPAMZ LAWL |
| 06:32.17 | Sixen | Keke. Going to attend BlizzCon 09? |
| 06:32.30 | Duman | weird |
| 06:32.32 | Sixen | =/ |
| 06:33.39 | Duman | LOL |
| 06:33.43 | Duman | ended up in spam |
| 06:33.46 | Sixen | Figued :p |
| 06:33.54 | Duman | taht's hilarious |
| 06:34.04 | Duman | but yes, going to blizzcon 09 |
| 06:34.10 | Duman | assuming there isn't a ticket clusterfuck again |
| 06:34.36 | Sixen | seriously... spidey. |
| 06:35.00 | Thunder_Child | you know, if "The LED's (light-emitting diodes) never need replacement." then why does it say "Warranty: Life Time Garrity (Except for Batteries and Bulbs)" |
| 06:35.17 | Sixen | Anyway, night guys. |
| 06:35.21 | Tekkub | LED != Bulb |
| 06:35.34 | Thunder_Child | thats what they are talking about however |
| 06:35.54 | Tekkub | and yes, it is possible to fry an LED, but it usually requires something like sticking it directly in an outlet |
| 06:36.08 | Duman | heh |
| 06:36.10 | Thunder_Child | then it would need replaceing |
| 06:36.11 | Aqua | you ever wanted to smack the shit out of a fellow associate when his solutions for your problem is to just give you an answer thats not even remotely close to what you asked? |
| 06:36.36 | Tekkub | you know, the standard "don't let the smoke out" rule of silicon-based components |
| 06:36.54 | Aqua | you can fry led's its a pita, but you can do it |
| 06:37.25 | Tekkub | like I said, stick it in an outlet |
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| 06:37.49 | Thunder_Child | you stick it in an outlet |
| 06:38.10 | kd3|hate`net | my modem has to pick the best times to quite nearly give up the ghost |
| 06:38.23 | Aqua | sorry i'm in an epic irc war over on another net about video encoding atm |
| 06:38.26 | Tekkub | been there done that |
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| 06:38.47 | Tekkub | plus I don't have any spare unused LEDs around |
| 06:39.17 | Aqua | <-- i do |
| 06:39.28 | Aqua | about 300 |
| 06:39.31 | Aqua | or 400 |
| 06:39.49 | Tekkub | so there yougo, you go stick them in outlets |
| 06:40.01 | Tekkub | you've probably got enough to do 4-5 per fixture |
| 06:42.46 | Aqua | yup |
| 06:42.54 | Aqua | only reason i have these things..... stupid engineering project |
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| 06:51.39 | Duman | hmm |
| 06:51.45 | Duman | holy putt putt on the download |
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| 06:55.06 | Duman | woo |
| 06:55.08 | Duman | 3.1 patch notes |
| 06:55.09 | Duman | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 06:55.31 | Duman | hah |
| 06:55.31 | Duman | Blessing of Kings is now trainable at level 20. Removed from talent trees. |
| 06:56.32 | batrick | i don't think th enotes are complete |
| 06:56.58 | Duman | ohsnap |
| 06:56.58 | Duman | Tremor Totem: Now correctly pulses every 3 sec, up from 1 sec. |
| 06:57.07 | Hjalte_ | batrick: They're not. Mages will have more things coming. |
| 06:57.20 | Duman | oh, I'm sure there will be some more changed before 3.1 lands |
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| 06:58.13 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf |
| 06:58.20 | ScytheBlade1 | mages get replenishment? |
| 06:58.29 | Duman | oh divine spirit baseline now |
| 06:58.37 | Tekkub | replenishment for everyone! |
| 06:58.41 | Duman | Hymn of Hope: This spell has been removed. |
| 06:58.42 | Duman | lol |
| 06:58.51 | Tekkub | no one used it |
| 06:58.56 | Duman | yeah I know |
| 06:59.11 | Tekkub | I did once, right after I trained it |
| 06:59.21 | Duman | hmm, abolish poison and abolish disease are normalized |
| 06:59.26 | Tekkub | "oh, uh, neat *forgets it exists*" |
| 06:59.26 | Duman | both tick ever 3s |
| 06:59.38 | Thunder_Child | i use it when i have nothing better to do |
| 06:59.47 | Thunder_Child | at least it was pretty |
| 07:00.02 | Duman | heh |
| 07:00.28 | ScytheBlade1 | still though |
| 07:00.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Mages with replenishment? |
| 07:01.00 | Duman | interesting: Sudden Doom now procs a free Death Coil instead of requiring you to push the button. Ranks reduced from 5 to 3. |
| 07:01.22 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: *shrug* why not, may give a decent boost to frost raid viability/utility |
| 07:01.34 | Duman | warlocks, too |
| 07:01.40 | Duman | Improved Soul Leech: Now has a 50/100% chance to proc Replenishment. |
| 07:01.51 | Duman | they said they were going to do that, tho |
| 07:01.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Well as long as they're spreading it around like that then |
| 07:01.58 | Duman | (give replenishment to more mana users) |
| 07:02.03 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 07:02.13 | NightHawkTheSane | thats also the point, to spread it around so it's more reliably available in raids |
| 07:02.16 | Duman | since they are nerfing the 5sr mana regen |
| 07:02.21 | Thunder_Child | it looks like that job that was linked a while ago is now in the voting phase http://www.islandreefjob.com/ |
| 07:02.54 | Tekkub | frankly, if they want to kill 5sp and replace it with replenishment... why not just bake replen into the mana regen rates? |
| 07:03.07 | Tekkub | *5sr |
| 07:03.19 | Duman | yeah I dunno |
| 07:03.22 | Duman | I have wondered that |
| 07:03.30 | Duman | i think they want it to be an "active" thing |
| 07:03.36 | Duman | lol, wut: Bloodlust/Heroism: Cooldown reduced to 5 minutes, but Sated and Exhausted now last 10 minutes. |
| 07:03.47 | Duman | that's... uh.. |
| 07:03.50 | Tekkub | just make regen the same period, no 5sr, and have a baseline regen equal to replen at all times |
| 07:03.52 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. thatsucks |
| 07:04.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: thats not very interesting, though |
| 07:04.16 | Duman | wtf is the use in a debuff that prevents the use of the ability > the cooldown?? |
| 07:04.38 | Tekkub | and just making oo5sr go away IS interesting? |
| 07:04.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Duman: the debuff fades on death, it prevents chaining uses every 5m for multiple shaman |
| 07:05.29 | Thunder_Child | "New Talent: Trap Launcher: When activated, your next Trap will be launched instantly at the enemy target. 1 minute cooldown." oh lol |
| 07:05.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: the current (and 3.1) regen system is more interesting than just a flat constant regen thats exactly the same across all classes |
| 07:05.50 | Thunder_Child | because a flying trap is so reasonable |
| 07:05.56 | Duman | meh |
| 07:06.09 | Tekkub | flying trap is, sure |
| 07:06.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: meh, freezing arrow? or for that matter, half the things in the game? :P |
| 07:06.18 | Tekkub | now, frisbee trap, that would rock |
| 07:06.30 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, at least that can be explained with magic |
| 07:06.38 | Thunder_Child | and no, what i was talking about can not be |
| 07:06.53 | Tekkub | gnomish engineering, duh |
| 07:07.03 | Tekkub | it's like a big cannon that shoots traps |
| 07:07.07 | Tekkub | teeth-first |
| 07:07.30 | Tekkub | you just don't like the idea of seeing a trap coming directly at your face |
| 07:07.35 | Thunder_Child | but they would get spring by the force i would imagine |
| 07:07.48 | Tekkub | nah the force hold sm open! |
| 07:08.03 | Thunder_Child | you failed physics didnt you |
| 07:08.18 | Tekkub | this is gnomish engineering, physics doesn't apply |
| 07:09.25 | kd3 | "Dartol's Rod of Transformation has had its tooltip corrected." |
| 07:09.44 | Tekkub | lol |
| 07:10.00 | Tekkub | I assume this means we has installer? |
| 07:11.07 | Thunder_Child | "Vampiric Embrace duration increased to 5 minutes, up from 1 minute. PvP duration is now 60 seconds. Cooldown removed." |
| 07:11.10 | Thunder_Child | yes Tekkub |
| 07:11.28 | Thunder_Child | well, that makes VE a bit more handy |
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| 07:12.01 | Duman | oh? hmm |
| 07:12.12 | Duman | kd3: your dl complete yet? |
| 07:12.42 | kd3 | neg, on piece 1423 atm |
| 07:13.08 | Duman | hmm |
| 07:13.14 | Duman | 309/733M here |
| 07:13.21 | mikma | are there any official 3.1.0 ptr notes? |
| 07:13.26 | kd3 | mmo-c |
| 07:13.29 | Thunder_Child | "Yaaarrrr! now has a detailed tooltip." |
| 07:13.33 | Thunder_Child | like it needs one |
| 07:13.39 | Duman | official? no.. but mmo-champ has the ones from the patch I'm sure |
| 07:13.40 | mikma | lol wut |
| 07:13.44 | mikma | 1h ago the notes weren't there |
| 07:14.00 | Thunder_Child | posted "February 24, 2009, 06:54:25 AM" |
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| 07:14.11 | mikma | also now we know what pets will hunters tame in 3.1.0 |
| 07:14.11 | Thunder_Child | dunno who's time frame that is however |
| 07:14.34 | Duman | about 20min ago |
| 07:14.37 | Syzgyn | mikma: there's new options? |
| 07:14.51 | Duman | I'm curious to see this: |
| 07:14.51 | Duman | A new Gear Manager feature has been added. Players will now be able to save gear sets for easy gear switching. |
| 07:14.53 | mikma | we'll see... |
| 07:14.54 | mikma | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/february/spectraltiger_blue.jpg |
| 07:14.58 | mikma | i wonder will that be tameable |
| 07:15.00 | Duman | anyone seen sneak-peeks? |
| 07:15.04 | Syzgyn | ah, those |
| 07:15.29 | Duman | I hope they allow dual-spec before 80 |
| 07:15.35 | Hjalte_ | Duman: It's really simple. A set is defined by the gear you have on, then you choose a name and an icon. You enter the manager via the character frame. |
| 07:15.53 | Duman | Hjalte_: nice |
| 07:16.08 | mikma | need screenshots! |
| 07:16.10 | Duman | so like a simplifed closetgnome? |
| 07:16.11 | Duman | heh |
| 07:16.16 | Syzgyn | Hjalte_: How's the interface for it? |
| 07:16.17 | Duman | 330/733MB |
| 07:17.06 | Duman | woot, my char copies succeeded |
| 07:17.10 | mikma | Plague Strike and Blood Plague no longer remove hots. Plague Strike.s damage increased quite a bit to compensate. |
| 07:17.12 | Duman | now I just wtb client |
| 07:17.15 | mikma | woopdidoo basil |
| 07:17.21 | NightHawkTheSane | is there a download link for the ptr client somewhere? |
| 07:17.28 | Duman | yeah too much druid qq in pvp |
| 07:17.36 | Duman | nhts: fire up your PTR client |
| 07:17.38 | Hjalte_ | Syzgyn: I just logged out, but the button you press in the character frame opens a box with 8 or 10 empty frames inside and if you choose to save your current gear it will occupy one of those frames. |
| 07:17.39 | Duman | or did you rm it |
| 07:17.49 | Duman | (your old client) |
| 07:17.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Duman: ah, yeah, i nuked it |
| 07:18.07 | Syzgyn | Hjalte_: Nice, so kinda like how outfitter looks? |
| 07:18.30 | Duman | unf... well, you can DL the 3.0.1 client that is avail from the http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ptr link |
| 07:18.36 | Duman | and patch up |
| 07:18.37 | NightHawkTheSane | meh |
| 07:18.39 | Duman | but that might be painful |
| 07:18.47 | Hjalte_ | Syzgyn: I suppose, but with a lot less options. |
| 07:18.50 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, ill just wait until there's an official link or something |
| 07:18.53 | Duman | they should have a real 0.1.0 client at some point |
| 07:18.54 | Syzgyn | I got on hoping that SBO had a link available :P |
| 07:19.07 | Duman | heh |
| 07:19.15 | NightHawkTheSane | that'd be nice |
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| 07:19.49 | NightHawkTheSane | I think i'm going to go crash, though. later folks |
| 07:19.57 | Syzgyn | 65/733! |
| 07:20.14 | Duman | Necrosis: Can now only be triggered by main hand attacks. |
| 07:20.16 | Duman | hah |
| 07:20.26 | Duman | they are really trying to kill DW DKs |
| 07:20.30 | Duman | (I guess) |
| 07:20.44 | Duman | later nighthawk |
| 07:21.11 | Duman | interesting they axed the "xxx aura" talents and changed them into "improved xxx presence" talents |
| 07:21.54 | Duman | (and killed group util) |
| 07:22.25 | Duman | blood is about the same |
| 07:22.30 | Duman | same for frost |
| 07:22.43 | Duman | unholy increases rune regen rate tho |
| 07:22.51 | Syzgyn | yeah thats pretty nice |
| 07:23.30 | Duman | I should finish leveling my dk, hmm |
| 07:23.48 | Syzgyn | meh, too many DK's around still |
| 07:23.48 | Duman | was semi put-off by it since I leveled one to 80 in beta, heh |
| 07:23.52 | Duman | true |
| 07:24.02 | Fisker- | yeah i hate it |
| 07:24.07 | Duman | I am actually leveling another shaman right now... dunno why, heh |
| 07:24.13 | Syzgyn | I got mine to 69, hit northrend, then switched to leveling my mage |
| 07:24.15 | Fisker- | I didn't download the 3.0.1 ptr |
| 07:24.25 | Duman | I still had the old PTR installed |
| 07:24.31 | Syzgyn | Lucky |
| 07:24.31 | Duman | 3.0.8 ptr |
| 07:24.37 | Dewin | hmm... wowtorrentex can't grok the 3.1.0 PTR patch. |
| 07:24.44 | Duman | we'll see if it patches properly tho |
| 07:24.48 | mikma | the unholy presence change was pure crap |
| 07:25.00 | Duman | mikmal: you think? why? |
| 07:25.04 | Duman | faster rune regen is nice |
| 07:25.12 | mikma | no-one plays with unholy presence because it doesn't affect the cooldown of runes |
| 07:25.19 | Duman | to go along w/ GCD and |
| 07:25.28 | Duman | well |
| 07:25.31 | mikma | sure you can use your spells faster, but you still have to wait for the whole time to get the runes back up |
| 07:25.38 | Syzgyn | now it does though |
| 07:25.40 | Duman | so |
| 07:25.41 | Duman | now it does |
| 07:25.44 | Duman | did you not see that? :) |
| 07:25.50 | Duman | Unholy Aura: Replaced with Improved Unholy Presence. Allows the Deathknight to keep the movement speed bonus of Unholy Presence in any presence, and increases rune regeneration rate while in Unholy Presence. |
| 07:25.55 | mikma | unless you'll do: ps, dc, ic, dc, bs, dc, bs, dc |
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| 07:26.09 | mikma | ... |
| 07:26.16 | mikma | for some reason i read it as runic power regeneration |
| 07:26.21 | Duman | lol |
| 07:26.27 | mikma | fail thunder_child |
| 07:26.35 | Syzgyn | gg |
| 07:26.39 | Duman | heh |
| 07:26.56 | mikma | then it might actually be good |
| 07:27.07 | Duman | for some reason I'm still stuck on liking blood spec best |
| 07:27.09 | Duman | altho we'll see |
| 07:27.10 | Thunder_Child | mikma, hmm? |
| 07:27.12 | mikma | needs targetdummy testing to see is it as good as blood presence |
| 07:27.18 | Duman | last time I really played my DK was in beta |
| 07:27.25 | mikma | still, blood presence has +15% damage or so |
| 07:27.35 | Duman | yeah, and 2x the healing now |
| 07:27.43 | Duman | (assuming Imp. Blood Pres) |
| 07:27.49 | Duman | Blood Aura: Replaced with Improved Blood Presence. This allows the deathknight to keep the healing from damage done bonus of Blood Presence in any presence, and increases healing received while in Blood Presence. |
| 07:27.56 | Duman | well, I dunno about 2x, but "more" |
| 07:27.57 | mikma | yeah but unholy dk's don't benefit from it anyway |
| 07:28.21 | Duman | 408/733MB, go go go faster faster faster |
| 07:28.38 | Duman | hah |
| 07:28.40 | mikma | Raise Ally has a >15 min cooldown to keep it out of Arena. |
| 07:28.43 | Duman | more critting DoTs: New Talent: Primal Gore: Grants the periodic damage from your Rake, Lacerate and Rip abilities the ability to critically hit. |
| 07:28.43 | mikma | i wonder what that means |
| 07:28.56 | Duman | so DKs can't rez in arena |
| 07:29.08 | mikma | well it has 5min cd now |
| 07:29.22 | mikma | oh, oh |
| 07:29.26 | mikma | now i get it :I |
| 07:29.31 | mikma | greater than 15min spells don't work |
| 07:29.33 | kd3 | rofl. a betrayer on a 14:35 KT kill |
| 07:29.33 | Syzgyn | ~lart mikma |
| 07:29.33 | purl | whacks mikma with a giant beaver's tail |
| 07:29.34 | kd3 | wow |
| 07:29.49 | Syzgyn | kd3: HATE. |
| 07:30.13 | Syzgyn | Still 0 betrayer drops :( |
| 07:30.26 | Syzgyn | 5+ Jawbones, 1 Armageddon |
| 07:31.17 | Fisker- | hohohoho |
| 07:31.23 | Fisker- | The best thing about DKP |
| 07:31.26 | Fisker- | is having second most dkp |
| 07:31.34 | Fisker- | and the one with the most dkp not be on the run where betrayer drops |
| 07:32.06 | Syzgyn | I'd agree with that. |
| 07:32.41 | Duman | heh |
| 07:32.45 | mikma | tekkub: ! http://www.hilavitkutin.com/2009/02/21/eiko-ishizawa-karhu-makuupussi/ |
| 07:32.54 | mikma | tekkub: sorry, in finnish but you'll get the point |
| 07:33.38 | mikma | http://eikoishizawa.com/work/greatbear/slideshow.html |
| 07:33.55 | zenzio | "This is definitely the turning point; the Register just last week published an article indicating that the one thing stopping most users from migrating from Windows was the lack of support for the `**' special glob pattern." -- lol |
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| 07:36.29 | mikma | NSFW, this is why walrus-jamie always tells people to be careful with the neodymium magnets! http://www.magnetnerd.com/Neodymium%20Magnets/Dirks%20Accident.htm |
| 07:36.54 | kd3 | old, but I still cringe just seeing that url |
| 07:37.15 | Duman | ugh yeah |
| 07:39.06 | Thunder_Child | finger sandwich |
| 07:39.36 | Duman | Glyph of Holy Light: Can no longer crit and has had its range updated. |
| 07:39.36 | Duman | lol |
| 07:39.46 | mikma | http://www.mcachicagostore.org/main/item_detail.php?pid=1035&cat=Art%20Toys%20and%20Mobiles |
| 07:43.42 | Duman | OH GNO |
| 07:43.45 | Duman | IT'S BOXINABOX |
| 07:43.46 | Duman | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15199336619&sid=1 |
| 07:44.01 | WobWork | bah |
| 07:44.01 | WobWork | Raise Ally has a >15 min cooldown to keep it out of Arena. |
| 07:44.02 | Fisker- | haha |
| 07:44.10 | Fisker- | he should have an avatar based on block |
| 07:44.13 | WobWork | Why not just change it so it does that IN ARENA? |
| 07:44.40 | Fisker- | Ghostcrawler said: Your mom |
| 07:44.54 | Duman | heh |
| 07:46.31 | Duman | 530/733MB |
| 07:46.50 | kd3 | 629... |
| 07:46.54 | kd3 | c'mon go faster, damn it |
| 07:47.10 | WobWork | zomg, trap launcher? |
| 07:47.13 | Tekkub | mikma, fursui the? |
| 07:47.59 | WobWork | also, what is a Black Arrow? |
| 07:48.58 | Duman | hmm... |
| 07:48.58 | Duman | Strangulate no longer does damage and has been reduced to 1 rank. |
| 07:49.06 | Duman | I wonder if this means it will come off the GCD |
| 07:49.07 | Osagasu | good. |
| 07:49.14 | Osagasu | Likely not, still a silence. |
| 07:49.17 | Osagasu | Not an interupt |
| 07:49.19 | Duman | ahh, true |
| 07:50.10 | Duman | Hysteria, Tricks of the Trade, Enrage, Wrecking Crew, Death Wish, Arcane Power, Owlkin Frenzy, Beast Within, Avenging Wrath and Hysteria damage bonuses no longer stack together. |
| 07:50.14 | Duman | hah |
| 07:50.21 | Duman | poor warriors ;) |
| 07:50.53 | Duman | altho do death wish and enrage stack now? I thoguht not |
| 07:50.56 | WobWork | oh hm, interesting new Black arrow |
| 07:51.00 | Osagasu | Now they can't complain about having to stack their damage taken increases |
| 07:51.01 | Osagasu | :P |
| 07:51.32 | Duman | heh |
| 07:53.10 | WobWork | I need a blogger like BRK but for frost DKs |
| 07:53.12 | Duman | Master Conjuror: Increased from 15/30% up to 150/300%. |
| 07:53.22 | WobWork | to filter stuff for me =P |
| 07:53.29 | Tekkub | BFK |
| 07:53.37 | Tekkub | Big Frost Knight |
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| 07:55.07 | Duman | Blackout: This talent has been removed. |
| 07:55.53 | Duman | oh this is interesting: Serendipity re-designed: When you heal with Binding Heal or Flash Heal, the cast time of your next Greater Heal or Prayer of Healing spell is reduced by 6/12/20%. Stacks up to 3 times. Lasts 20 sec. |
| 07:57.12 | Duman | 600/733MB |
| 07:57.18 | Duman | go go gadget |
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| 08:11.08 | Tekkub | any Shamens or shawomens on that use Cork? |
| 08:11.42 | Duman | should I? |
| 08:12.06 | Tekkub | of course, but the point is I need a tester |
| 08:12.08 | Duman | heh |
| 08:12.17 | Tekkub | I no longer have wrath beta premade shaman to test with |
| 08:12.22 | Duman | hmm, what's Cork do |
| 08:12.33 | Tekkub | remember Needylist? |
| 08:12.59 | Duman | sort of |
| 08:13.06 | Tekkub | that, but better |
| 08:13.18 | Duman | hehe |
| 08:14.03 | Duman | kd3: your dl done? |
| 08:14.41 | mikma | tekkub: i have haelol shaman atm :P |
| 08:14.41 | Tekkub | I'm at 300MiB now |
| 08:14.50 | Tekkub | and fuuuuuck is it eating brains and resources |
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| 08:14.58 | Tekkub | mikma, and you use cork? |
| 08:15.06 | mikma | nope |
| 08:15.11 | Duman | tekkub: perhaps I should try it... I keep missing when my water shield goes down since the charges are consumed by healing crits :P |
| 08:15.13 | Tekkub | you suck too |
| 08:15.16 | Duman | lol |
| 08:15.22 | kd3 | yup. letting the DL double-check it before it patches |
| 08:15.23 | Duman | 726/733MB |
| 08:15.34 | Duman | err 716 |
| 08:15.38 | Duman | but climbing |
| 08:15.45 | Tekkub | Duman, go try it out and get used to it while I wrap up this new thingy for you to test |
| 08:16.08 | Tekkub | mainly test the earth shiled module, on a friend in party if possible |
| 08:16.23 | Tekkub | Cork will remember who you last cast on |
| 08:16.26 | Duman | tekkub: k... altho I am probably crashing out for the night soon... I'll likely poke at it tomorrow... otherwise I know I'll be up all night playing w/ it if I start now :P |
| 08:16.31 | Duman | ahh, cool |
| 08:16.45 | Tekkub | fine, s/Duman/mikma/ |
| 08:16.56 | Duman | hehe! |
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| 08:17.53 | mikma | tekkub: oh that i can do |
| 08:18.01 | mikma | i usually keep ES on my friend in BG |
| 08:18.13 | Tekkub | cool |
| 08:18.26 | Duman | notes look right, btw |
| 08:18.38 | Tekkub | what it should do is not show anything till you cast ES on someone, then it should tell you any time that person doesn't have it and it's not on CD |
| 08:18.55 | mikma | tekkub: this version from your git? |
| 08:18.56 | Tekkub | if you cast on someone different it should track that person instead |
| 08:19.04 | Tekkub | and if you go in the config you can clear it |
| 08:19.12 | Tekkub | yea |
| 08:19.34 | Tekkub | I'll let you know when my update is pushed too... just want to make sure it works the same afterwards |
| 08:19.55 | Tekkub | I'm putting priest Fear Ward on the same system, so I'm abstracting the code so it works for both |
| 08:20.13 | Tekkub | prolly gonna toss fursuiter's Thorns on it too |
| 08:20.32 | mikma | green box: "Hi There! tekkub is using GitHub to share code with you!" |
| 08:21.57 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 08:22.17 | mikma | oh wow, you're using ace libs :I |
| 08:22.26 | Tekkub | I am? |
| 08:22.39 | mikma | AceEvent-3.0 |
| 08:22.46 | Tekkub | oh yea, AceEvent gause 90% of it's already there for LDB |
| 08:22.47 | mikma | that's in there hehe |
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| 08:28.15 | Duman | hmm |
| 08:28.18 | kd3 | fail. the patch notes still... fail... |
| 08:28.32 | Duman | ? |
| 08:28.46 | Duman | 70% thru patching |
| 08:29.01 | kd3 | 'please enable javascript' |
| 08:29.06 | Duman | lol? |
| 08:29.07 | Duman | hahah |
| 08:29.26 | Duman | hah, I missed this: |
| 08:29.30 | Thunder_Child | i'm still working on patch 0.1.0 |
| 08:29.41 | Duman | err |
| 08:29.46 | Duman | Most of the recipes in the 1-300 skill range of blacksmithing have had their stats updated to be more useful. |
| 08:31.36 | Duman | hmm |
| 08:32.06 | Duman | so I guess this patch applies ok to either 0.0.8 or 3.0.1? |
| 08:32.19 | Duman | btw: |
| 08:32.19 | Duman | $ md5sum WoW-0.1.0-enUS-patch.exe |
| 08:32.20 | Duman | 222f4a826dd06d0fae86315b7e783f6f *WoW-0.1.0-enUS-patch.exe |
| 08:32.22 | Duman | is what I'm seein |
| 08:32.23 | Duman | g |
| 08:33.08 | Duman | -rwx------+ 1 taner None 769563176 Feb 24 00:17 WoW-0.1.0-enUS-patch.exe |
| 08:33.47 | kd3 | 222f4a826dd06d0fae86315b7e783f6f WoW-0.1.0-enUS-patch.exe |
| 08:33.55 | Duman | well that's promising :) |
| 08:34.23 | Tekkub | mikma, you dun tested out the current version? |
| 08:34.30 | Duman | are you patching off of 3.0.1, or from 0.0.8 ? |
| 08:34.37 | Duman | woo, successful |
| 08:34.48 | kd3 | 0.0.8 |
| 08:34.51 | Duman | same |
| 08:35.05 | mikma | tekkub: this works nicely. atleast remembered my friend with ES |
| 08:35.12 | kd3 | go faster, damn it |
| 08:35.33 | Tekkub | okey, mind installing the 'lastbuffed' branch and checking that it still fucktions the exact same? |
| 08:35.34 | Duman | hmm, don't think the realms are really up |
| 08:35.42 | Tekkub | it worked for thorns, so I assume it will |
| 08:35.54 | Duman | "retrieving character list..." |
| 08:36.10 | mikma | tekkub: i'll test it with my druid after this WG |
| 08:36.21 | Tekkub | you wanna know the sad thing? |
| 08:36.36 | mikma | we know, you take it up the ass |
| 08:36.52 | Tekkub | I did this because I liked the ES design and wanted it for fear ward, I hated manually turning it on and setting a unit every time we ran UP for the fucking tank sword |
| 08:37.13 | Tekkub | so, tonight, the goddamn thing drops and I'll probably never use fear ward again |
| 08:37.18 | kd3 | 95... |
| 08:37.19 | Duman | LOL |
| 08:37.20 | kd3 | c'mon 100% |
| 08:37.35 | Tekkub | after like 2 weeks of farming the damn instance |
| 08:37.45 | Duman | gonna be large UI diffs I'm sure |
| 08:37.56 | Duman | between the dual spec and itemrack |
| 08:38.00 | Tekkub | kd3, or you could just fork my wow-ui-source on github ^^ |
| 08:38.10 | Tekkub | I just want to see the new UIs |
| 08:38.17 | Adys | 3.1, ChatFrame_OnHyperlinkShow |
| 08:38.20 | Adys | has that been moved? |
| 08:38.20 | Duman | if I get in, I'll take screenshots |
| 08:38.28 | Tekkub | make sure there's no drastic changes I need to make to handle talent swaps |
| 08:38.41 | Duman | but I think the servers are not really up |
| 08:38.59 | Tekkub | I'm hoping they just use the existing events to indicate that talents and actionbar slots changed |
| 08:40.18 | kd3 | 37486 lines, 1.25 megs |
| 08:40.19 | kd3 | jesus |
| 08:40.30 | Duman | heh told you |
| 08:40.30 | Tekkub | lawl... |
| 08:40.31 | Adys | whats that kd3 ? |
| 08:40.36 | Tekkub | I look over at cat |
| 08:40.37 | Duman | diff of the UI changes |
| 08:40.41 | kd3 | my .diff of 3.0.9->0.1.0 |
| 08:40.42 | Tekkub | cat notices, perks up |
| 08:40.48 | Tekkub | I act like I'm going to pet her |
| 08:41.05 | Tekkub | she rolls over for belly rubs... and falls off my desk |
| 08:41.08 | Adys | kd3: can you upload ChatFrame.lua diff? |
| 08:41.10 | Duman | heh |
| 08:41.28 | Tekkub | kd3, emails! |
| 08:41.34 | Tekkub | chop chop lollypop! |
| 08:42.14 | Tem | amg |
| 08:42.15 | kd3 | adys; sec |
| 08:42.18 | Tem | awesome |
| 08:42.18 | Tem | http://www.beardhead.com/ |
| 08:42.19 | Duman | hehe |
| 08:42.21 | Tem | pure awesome |
| 08:42.35 | Tekkub | I still has 267MiB to go |
| 08:42.44 | Tekkub | beardhead? |
| 08:42.52 | kd3 | emails out! |
| 08:43.11 | Duman | I has emails! |
| 08:43.26 | End | ow |
| 08:43.28 | Tekkub | Tem, http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Area+52&n=Beardyhead |
| 08:43.30 | End | wow* |
| 08:43.31 | Tekkub | is me priest |
| 08:43.33 | End | that's not a small diff |
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| 08:44.06 | Duman | horrycrap |
| 08:44.09 | End | yes, the email sent me to this channel! if I'm getting the email, stuff must be happening! |
| 08:44.15 | End | now to read the diff |
| 08:44.28 | kd3 | adys; http://wowi.pastey.net/108881 |
| 08:44.34 | Tekkub | that beardhead thing looks like it's be horribly uncomfortable if you have a real beard |
| 08:44.40 | Adys | thx kd3 |
| 08:44.50 | Thunder_Child | http://i43.tinypic.com/ank7n.png |
| 08:44.52 | Tekkub | no email yet |
| 08:45.00 | Tekkub | SMTP faster kd3 |
| 08:45.14 | Thunder_Child | i have it alreay |
| 08:45.15 | kd3 | blame gmail. soon as I hit send it's not my problem any more |
| 08:45.18 | Thunder_Child | already* |
| 08:45.18 | Adys | kd3: Wheres ChatFrame_OnHyperLinkShow defined? |
| 08:45.25 | Tekkub | FASTER |
| 08:45.26 | kd3 | lemme grep for it |
| 08:45.27 | Tekkub | HARD |
| 08:45.28 | Tekkub | ER |
| 08:45.29 | Duman | I got my email |
| 08:45.30 | Tekkub | DEEPER |
| 08:45.37 | Tekkub | NOW ROTATE |
| 08:45.58 | Duman | +GEARSETS_TITLE = "Gear Manager"; |
| 08:46.05 | Duman | +SLASH_EQUIP_SET1 = "/equipset"; -- Gear Sets! |
| 08:46.05 | Duman | +SLASH_EQUIP_SET2 = "/equipset"; -- Gear Sets! |
| 08:46.06 | Duman | heh |
| 08:46.14 | jaxdahl | am i late to the party? |
| 08:46.17 | End | hm |
| 08:46.18 | Thunder_Child | damit kd3, you bcc'd everyone |
| 08:46.19 | jaxdahl | +function ArenaEnemyFrames_OnEvent(self, event, ...) <-- what is this? |
| 08:46.25 | End | builtin arena frames |
| 08:46.28 | Duman | yeah |
| 08:46.31 | jaxdahl | nice job BCCing this time btw, kd3 :) |
| 08:46.37 | End | like gladius and friends |
| 08:46.51 | Thunder_Child | and i was going to insult Tekkub properly |
| 08:46.52 | Thunder_Child | 00:45.28Â Â Â Â Â Â +Tekkub: FASTER |
| 08:46.54 | Thunder_Child | 00:45.28Â Â Â Â Â Â kd3: lemme grep for it |
| 08:46.56 | Thunder_Child | 00:45.30Â Â Â Â Â Â +Tekkub: HARD |
| 08:47.00 | Thunder_Child | fail paste |
| 08:47.26 | kd3 | adys; scroll down. it's in chatframe.lua, line 2467. s/b in the diff somewhere |
| 08:47.40 | Tekkub | what was that? |
| 08:47.47 | Adys | its not in the diff |
| 08:47.49 | Tekkub | was I just insulted? cause I can't tell |
| 08:47.49 | Adys | thats odd |
| 08:47.53 | kd3 | blah, it's not in the diff |
| 08:47.54 | Adys | its nil in here |
| 08:48.06 | kd3 | function ChatFrame_OnHyperlinkShow(self, link, text, button) |
| 08:48.06 | kd3 | SetItemRef(link, text, button); |
| 08:48.08 | Thunder_Child | no Tekkub, i could not because kd3 bcc'd everyone |
| 08:48.13 | jaxdahl | are they adding frames you can access in combat in arena to target enemies? |
| 08:48.26 | jaxdahl | in Blizzard_ArenaUI.lua |
| 08:48.30 | Tekkub | and prolly got my addy wrong |
| 08:48.37 | jaxdahl | or can anyone figure out what that code is for? |
| 08:48.55 | Tekkub | "arena" may be the new mounted combat arena |
| 08:49.12 | Tekkub | instead of pvptard arena |
| 08:50.08 | kd3 | adys; it must've been there before, because I'm seeing references to it in - lines in the big diff |
| 08:50.16 | jaxdahl | i see some auction UI changes |
| 08:51.28 | kd3 | adys; chatframe.xml.diff: http://wowi.pastey.net/108883 |
| 08:51.52 | jaxdahl | signup stuff in the calendar? |
| 08:52.02 | Adys | thanks Ill check in a min, brb |
| 08:52.41 | jaxdahl | local function Blizzard_CombatLog_BitToBraceCode(bit) what's that? |
| 08:53.43 | Duman | methinks servers aren't going to be up for a while... or perhaps not until am |
| 08:53.44 | Duman | so |
| 08:53.46 | Duman | night folks :) |
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| 08:56.05 | Tekkub | still no email |
| 08:56.07 | Tekkub | kdfail |
| 08:56.25 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:56.39 | Tekkub | tekkub@gmail.com |
| 08:56.40 | foxlit | why not post it to something like google groups? |
| 08:56.48 | Thunder_Child | is not a msg dummy |
| 08:56.49 | Tekkub | or *@tekkub.net |
| 08:57.03 | Tekkub | why not just use github since it's already all up there :P |
| 08:57.04 | End | wtf |
| 08:57.11 | End | are they adding console support? |
| 08:57.21 | Fisker- | ? |
| 08:57.30 | Tekkub | http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source |
| 08:57.32 | End | example: |
| 08:57.35 | End | +JOYSTICK_BUTTONS["XBOX"]["JOYBUTTON1"] = { texture = "Interface\\Joystick\\Xbox-Button-A" }; |
| 08:57.44 | Tekkub | JOYBUTTON! |
| 08:57.52 | Arrowmaster | maybe they are just adding gamepad support? |
| 08:57.52 | foxlit | moar joy! |
| 08:57.54 | kd3 | no, they're adding xbox controller supporrt |
| 08:57.55 | Fisker- | if people prefer being fags and playing with joysticks? |
| 08:57.58 | Tekkub | that is indeed a bad sign |
| 08:58.05 | Fisker- | nah Tekkub |
| 08:58.10 | End | oh |
| 08:58.16 | Fisker- | because it happened 5 years after the game was released |
| 08:58.17 | foxlit | It has like 8 buttons? |
| 08:58.20 | End | it lists XBOX, PLAYSTATION and GAMECUBE |
| 08:58.23 | Fisker- | rather than 5 years before and PC based on that scheme |
| 08:58.40 | Arrowmaster | haha ok |
| 08:58.44 | Arrowmaster | maybe they are |
| 08:58.50 | kd3 | +function KeyBindingFrame_OnJoyStick(self, joystick, stick, angle, pressure) |
| 08:59.31 | Thunder_Child | new info http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php |
| 08:59.52 | foxlit | what is this mysterious "new info"? :) |
| 09:00.02 | jaxdahl | dual spec cost: http://www.flawless-stormrage.eu/naraxi/WoWScrnShot_022409_092851.jpg |
| 09:00.03 | Thunder_Child | "Classes Undocumented Changes/Spell Comparison" |
| 09:00.13 | kd3 | thousand gold! |
| 09:00.14 | kd3 | thought so |
| 09:00.14 | jaxdahl | make sure you're sitting down first before you click |
| 09:00.25 | kd3 | figured it'd be fairly cheap |
| 09:01.05 | Tekkub | I was hoping of 5k |
| 09:01.06 | foxlit | meh, nothing dramatically new |
| 09:01.09 | Tekkub | *shrug* |
| 09:01.25 | Thunder_Child | "*New Spell* Polymorph Rabbit - Transforms the enemy into a harmless rabbit, forcing it to scamper around for up to 50 sec." |
| 09:01.27 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 09:02.24 | Tekkub | NEW TENTACLES! |
| 09:02.37 | Tekkub | Bigwigs gets to have tentacle rape alerts again |
| 09:02.41 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:02.48 | Arrowmaster | *New Talent* Nemesis, Tier 9, 3 point talent - Reduces the cooldown of your Demonic Empowerment, Metamorphosis, Soulstone and Fel Domination spells by 10/20/30%. |
| 09:02.50 | Arrowmaster | YES! |
| 09:03.09 | Arrowmaster | I GET TO USE THE "IM NOT SPECED FOR SOULSTONE" EXCUSE AGAIN! |
| 09:03.29 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 09:03.33 | Thunder_Child | dual spec |
| 09:03.46 | Arrowmaster | meh its not like i even play any more |
| 09:03.55 | Thunder_Child | anyway, i assume you can not regen 150% of your mana just becuase talents "let you"? |
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| 09:04.39 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 09:04.46 | Thunder_Child | anyway, yes/no? |
| 09:05.09 | End | looks like you can say Tanking Healing or DPS in lfg? |
| 09:05.29 | Fisker- | looks like you can say a lot of things |
| 09:05.38 | End | I could indeed |
| 09:06.13 | haste | shrugs |
| 09:06.20 | haste | no vehicle support for the secure headers |
| 09:06.32 | foxlit | I don't get it, really |
| 09:06.39 | Duman | whoa |
| 09:06.46 | Duman | the new list on mmo-c = win |
| 09:07.17 | Duman | some interesting shaman changes |
| 09:07.24 | foxlit | Really should make vehicles overtake the "player" unit. |
| 09:07.37 | Duman | *New Talent* Black Arrow (Tier 9) - Fires a Black Arrow at the target, increasing all damage done by you to the target by 6% and dealing [ 10% of RAP + 785 ] Shadow damage over 15 sec. Costs 6% base mana. 5-35 yard range. Instant Cast. 30 sec cooldown. |
| 09:07.46 | Tekkub | or just don't do the swap bullshit at all |
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| 09:07.55 | Tekkub | vehicle == pet, what's so hard about that? |
| 09:07.57 | Arrowmaster | we need to trick zootfizzle into just removing xml and converting the default ui to pure lua instead of doing these xml enchancements |
| 09:08.32 | Tekkub | and people gave me shit when I didn't like that his "present" was XML |
| 09:08.45 | haste | Tekkub: yes ofc, I'm fully aware of that, but they are still ignoring us by not adding a secure swap |
| 09:08.57 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, people will give you shit because it;s you |
| 09:09.08 | Duman | Judgement of Light now procs off spells as well. (Previously only "attacks" would trigger this) |
| 09:09.11 | Duman | !! |
| 09:09.27 | Tekkub | http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/tree/ptr |
| 09:09.33 | Tekkub | for anyone that wants it |
| 09:09.46 | Arrowmaster | wait is 3.0.9 live now? |
| 09:10.24 | Thunder_Child | i assume that "Pyromaniac (Tier 7) now allows 17/33/50% of your mana regeneration to continue while casting." + "Arcane Meditation (Tier 4) Allows 17/33/50% of your mana regeneration to continue while casting." + "Mage Armor has been increased to allow 50% of your mana regneration to continue while casting." still only allows 100% mana regen? |
| 09:10.31 | Thunder_Child | and not 150% |
| 09:10.35 | Thunder_Child | yes Arrowmaster |
| 09:12.14 | Tem | hmm |
| 09:12.29 | Tem | the downloader doesn't give me the 3.1 ptr patch |
| 09:12.36 | Tem | it gives me whatever the last ptr was |
| 09:12.48 | kd3 | yup. log in after you get that installed and it'll patch up |
| 09:12.56 | Tem | oh |
| 09:14.07 | nevcairiel | so much backlog with my name in it |
| 09:14.57 | Tekkub | mmmmm.... new pajama pants |
| 09:15.03 | Tekkub | I'm too sexy for my flannel |
| 09:18.59 | kd3 | +ClearCursor(); -- Or hillarity may ensue, and nobody wants to get ensued. |
| 09:19.07 | End | lol |
| 09:19.12 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:19.24 | nevcairiel | just reading through the diff now too |
| 09:20.29 | foxlit | What does the __environment metatable key do? |
| 09:20.46 | Arrowmaster | nothing afail |
| 09:20.48 | Arrowmaster | afaik |
| 09:21.21 | nevcairiel | its not a lua feature |
| 09:21.26 | nevcairiel | must be used by the code itself |
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| 09:21.52 | Arrowmaster | +local talentGroup = PlayerTalentFrame and PlayerTalentFrame.talentGroup; |
| 09:23.01 | nevcairiel | nearly no new code in the actionbutton files |
| 09:23.08 | End | yeah |
| 09:23.10 | Arrowmaster | +if ( IsShiftKeyDown() and talentGroup == GetActiveTalentGroup() ) then |
| 09:23.12 | Arrowmaster | im confused |
| 09:26.57 | Tekkub | why? |
| 09:27.41 | Arrowmaster | does the talent frame let you switch between talent groups without really switching between them or something? |
| 09:27.54 | nevcairiel | its supposed to |
| 09:27.56 | Tekkub | it sounds like it lets you view it |
| 09:28.05 | nevcairiel | you are supposed to view both your specs |
| 09:30.35 | nevcairiel | hm the lfg got some big tweaks |
| 09:31.09 | nevcairiel | You can configure if you're willing to be "Leader" for the group, or your role (Heal/DPS/Tank) |
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| 09:33.24 | Arrowmaster | PlayerTalentFrame_UpdateTalentOnClickHandlers() |
| 09:33.30 | Arrowmaster | wow look at that fuction |
| 09:35.53 | shadowfaux | anyone able to give me some pointers for creating timers in lua? can't seem to see anything on wowwiki or lua.org |
| 09:36.18 | Thunder_Child | look at an old timer addon? |
| 09:36.30 | foxlit | look at the OnUpdate script handler |
| 09:36.34 | shadowfaux | ok |
| 09:36.46 | nevcairiel | essentially you just use an OnUpdate with a certain delay |
| 09:36.49 | Arrowmaster | look at AceTimer-3.0 |
| 09:37.24 | nevcairiel | AceTimer uses a rather unintuitive system though =p |
| 09:37.31 | Adys | this is just weird |
| 09:37.35 | Arrowmaster | oh Tekkub you can rejoice |
| 09:37.38 | Arrowmaster | -<OnMouseWheel> |
| 09:37.38 | Arrowmaster | -return; |
| 09:37.38 | Arrowmaster | -</OnMouseWheel> |
| 09:37.51 | Tekkub | lol |
| 09:38.08 | Adys | I got an addon that replaces ChatFrame_OnHyperLinkShow |
| 09:38.20 | Adys | and it just doesnt replace it in 9614 |
| 09:38.26 | Adys | any idea whats wrong? |
| 09:39.03 | foxlit | magic and gnomes. |
| 09:39.46 | Arrowmaster | -<Button name="ClassTrainerTrainButton" inherits="UIPanelButtonTemplate" text="TRAIN"> |
| 09:39.48 | Arrowmaster | +<Button name="ClassTrainerTrainButton" inherits="UIPanelButtonTemplate" text="TRAIN" jumpNavigateStart="true"> |
| 09:39.49 | Arrowmaster | wtf is this |
| 09:39.54 | foxlit | Yeah, Adys. |
| 09:40.00 | foxlit | You can't replace that function and expect it to work. |
| 09:40.10 | Adys | why not? |
| 09:40.17 | foxlit | It's bound directly to the handler, your global namespace change has no effect. |
| 09:40.33 | Adys | why'd it work on live? |
| 09:40.49 | foxlit | Because it's not bound directly to the handler on live? |
| 09:41.10 | Adys | fine |
| 09:41.14 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 09:41.16 | Adys | how should I fix it then? |
| 09:41.19 | nevcairiel | thats a nasty side effect of the change |
| 09:41.24 | nevcairiel | replace the handler |
| 09:41.48 | foxlit | That's also fairly problematic, since it's on a virtual frame |
| 09:41.56 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 09:42.08 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 09:42.56 | mikma | foxlit: are UnitGUID's always the same on npc's? |
| 09:43.17 | foxlit | mikma: no, but certain segments are always the same for the same creatures. |
| 09:43.17 | nevcairiel | no, they change when the npc respawns |
| 09:43.26 | End | for that spawn counter of that npc |
| 09:43.27 | Arrowmaster | replace the global after storing a temp reference to the original, then enumerate through every frame and for each frame that has the OnHyperLinkShow equal to the original replace it with the new one |
| 09:43.38 | Tekkub | a portion of them are the same though right? |
| 09:43.38 | End | there bits that identify that npc across spawns though |
| 09:43.42 | End | there are* |
| 09:43.45 | Tekkub | like the itemid section of an itemlink |
| 09:43.45 | mikma | in this case, i don't think the wintergrasp announce -npc will despawn at any point |
| 09:43.46 | End | wowwiki has details |
| 09:43.48 | foxlit | So all Defias Pillagers have some common substring |
| 09:43.49 | nevcairiel | yeah there is a mob id in the middle |
| 09:43.52 | Adys | thanks a lot Arrowmaster |
| 09:43.53 | foxlit | wowwiki has details, indeed. |
| 09:44.01 | nevcairiel | mikma: server reboot |
| 09:44.01 | Arrowmaster | mikma: yes it will |
| 09:44.09 | mikma | bollocks |
| 09:44.22 | Arrowmaster | and are you still using the yell? |
| 09:44.34 | nevcairiel | you can identify them using the mob id |
| 09:44.38 | foxlit | Adys: you could probably hook SetItemRef instead. |
| 09:44.43 | mikma | arrowmaster: yeah, i am |
| 09:44.47 | Tekkub | I has installed PTR! |
| 09:44.52 | End | yeah, the mob id is in the middle bits somewhere |
| 09:45.01 | Arrowmaster | then you need to localize the name anyway, checking the guid isnt going to help much |
| 09:45.08 | End | I'm stuck at 729 out of 733 |
| 09:45.37 | Tekkub | I can has char list? |
| 09:45.39 | Adys | foxlit: meh |
| 09:49.38 | Arrowmaster | InteractUnit("target"); |
| 09:49.42 | Arrowmaster | oh wow |
| 09:49.44 | mikma | lol, "hip hop abs" |
| 09:49.51 | mikma | new tv-shop product |
| 09:49.56 | nevcairiel | we can finally get around the right-click madness |
| 09:49.58 | nevcairiel | yay |
| 09:50.17 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if you can loot from that keybinding |
| 09:50.18 | mikma | wut? |
| 09:50.51 | nevcairiel | man the patch download takes too long |
| 09:51.02 | Arrowmaster | +TargetDirectionEnemy(math.pi * 1.5); |
| 09:51.03 | ReAn | ptr? |
| 09:51.03 | Arrowmaster | +TargetDirectionFinished(); |
| 09:51.07 | nevcairiel | anyone got a mirror for the EU english patch? :P |
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| 09:52.01 | Arrowmaster | makes you wonder why their api is using radians instead of degrees |
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| 09:52.52 | nevcairiel | because the lowlevel api probably does |
| 09:52.55 | nevcairiel | all of the apis do generally |
| 09:53.08 | Arrowmaster | one of the other apis for camera angles uses degrees |
| 09:55.37 | Arrowmaster | +<ModifiedClick action="SHOWITEMFLYOUT" default="ALT"/> |
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| 09:55.48 | Arrowmaster | a new modifedclick |
| 09:55.57 | Tem | item fly out |
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| 09:58.45 | Tekkub | mikma, le poke? |
| 10:00.51 | mikma | tekkub: ze hai |
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| 10:01.21 | Tekkub | get a chance to test new cork? |
| 10:01.35 | mikma | lets test it now |
| 10:15.37 | ReAn | Tekkub: i tried cork, i found it humorous that the only thing that showed up for my rogue was "Find Fish" |
| 10:15.57 | Tekkub | fuck rogues |
| 10:16.02 | ReAn | lol |
| 10:16.07 | Tekkub | you're not a buffing class anyway :P |
| 10:16.18 | ReAn | true enough |
| 10:16.22 | ReAn | i just thought it was funny |
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| 10:24.34 | End | ugh |
| 10:24.38 | End | stupid downloader |
| 10:24.49 | nevcairiel | i scrapped the download and used the torrent |
| 10:24.56 | End | I'm gonna have to |
| 10:25.01 | End | it's wedged |
| 10:25.04 | nevcairiel | it swamped my connection completly |
| 10:25.06 | nevcairiel | no fun |
| 10:25.17 | End | yeah I'm getting massive upload and no download |
| 10:25.26 | End | gee thanks Blizz, I'll seed for you and never get the entire file myself! |
| 10:25.39 | nevcairiel | yeah it does so much upload, that it breaks the download |
| 10:27.14 | End | hrm |
| 10:27.33 | End | does it dump the torrent somewhere, or will I have to extract/find it? |
| 10:27.45 | Sargeras | WowTorrentEx is what I use |
| 10:27.49 | Sargeras | to extract the torrent |
| 10:27.52 | nevcairiel | i'm not sure, i just got it from http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ |
| 10:27.59 | nevcairiel | wowtorrentex didnt work on the ptr downloader for me |
| 10:28.49 | nevcairiel | good that i still had that 3.0.1 installer on my disc |
| 10:29.17 | Sargeras | gave you an invalid torrent error? |
| 10:29.24 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 10:35.23 | End | wow my computer is being retarded suddenly |
| 10:37.37 | nevcairiel | Anyone know if EU PTR realms are actually up before i get all excited when the download finishes? |
| 10:46.14 | Adys | heeh |
| 10:46.35 | Adys | Insane in the Membrane - Raise your reputation with the areas listed below. |
| 10:47.00 | Adys | Honored with Bloodsail Buccaneers - Exalted with Booty Bay - Exalted with Everlook - Exalted with Gadgetzan - Exalted with Ratchet - Exalted with Darkmoon Faire - Exalted with Ravenholdt - Exalted with Shen'dralar |
| 10:47.09 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:47.22 | nevcairiel | Now its official, Xinhuan is insane in the membrane |
| 10:47.29 | Adys | exalted DF? |
| 10:47.42 | nevcairiel | although i don't think he has the pirates right now |
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| 10:47.52 | Adys | yeah you need to have them at the same time it seems |
| 10:48.07 | nevcairiel | there was a possibility for that |
| 10:48.11 | Adys | still is |
| 10:48.11 | nevcairiel | but its even more insane |
| 10:48.17 | Adys | thats the whole point |
| 10:48.40 | nevcairiel | except the pirates, i belive he has all of the others on exalted |
| 10:48.43 | nevcairiel | which still is insane |
| 10:48.54 | Adys | Im gonna need ravenholdt |
| 10:48.56 | Adys | the rest is easy |
| 10:49.17 | nevcairiel | shen'dralar and DF are alot of sillyness |
| 10:49.31 | Adys | DF is very easy now |
| 10:49.34 | Adys | with the new tarot cards |
| 10:49.39 | Adys | shen dralar is annoying because of the unique bs |
| 10:50.08 | nevcairiel | the four gnome towns are just legwork |
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| 10:50.13 | nevcairiel | er, goblin towns |
| 10:52.11 | nevcairiel | ravenholdt is just silly, go and pick-pocket a million npcs <.< |
| 10:52.24 | Adys | i dont have a rogue =( |
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| 10:58.58 | Thunder_Child | why gmail, why have you forsaken me |
| 10:59.16 | batrick | you too huh |
| 10:59.37 | nevcairiel | whats with gmail? |
| 10:59.48 | Thunder_Child | i can access it |
| 10:59.50 | Thunder_Child | cant* |
| 11:00.13 | Cairenn | hmmmm ... me either |
| 11:00.16 | Thunder_Child | i can from my ipod touch, but not my browser |
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| 11:00.25 | Adys | yeah gmail is down atm |
| 11:00.54 | Adys | Thunder_Child: the iphone ui? |
| 11:01.08 | Thunder_Child | Adys, yes, w/o the phone part |
| 11:01.20 | Adys | it uses the same ui |
| 11:01.37 | Thunder_Child | yes, i am aware of that |
| 11:02.09 | Sargeras | google is down, the world holds its breath |
| 11:02.10 | Thunder_Child | so then yes, the smtp thing, not safari |
| 11:02.37 | Adys | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 |
| 11:02.39 | Adys | + Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/1A543a Safari/419.3 |
| 11:02.45 | Adys | + http://m.google.com/mail |
| 11:02.48 | Adys | = profit |
| 11:03.18 | nevcairiel | Hm interesting, i see 4 online EU realms with real server names (no "EU Test Server #1"), but which is the one my chars will end up on now |
| 11:03.40 | nevcairiel | oh hey on one of them already is a char |
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| 11:06.09 | nevcairiel | Hey SPELL_AURA_REFRESH has a valid source set now |
| 11:06.17 | nevcairiel | SPELL_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE still doesnt however =( |
| 11:09.03 | Adys | woah |
| 11:09.14 | Adys | Small Glimmering Shards are 1s each on my serv |
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| 11:26.26 | WobWork | Buy! Buy! |
| 11:26.28 | WobWork | no wait |
| 11:26.30 | WobWork | Sell! Sell! |
| 11:46.39 | ReAn | that's a quote for qdb if i ever saw it |
| 11:48.01 | ReAn | s/it/one |
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| 13:04.07 | nevcairiel | Hm no "Upcoming 3.1.x Changs" in the UI Forum yet |
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| 14:00.19 | Movix | woaw !! spectral tiger sells about 1000usd on ebay !!!!! |
| 14:01.11 | Lopeppeppy | What's a spectral tiger? |
| 14:01.13 | haste | sells equals advertised for? |
| 14:01.50 | Movix | a loot card to get a mount |
| 14:02.24 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, one of them. *nod* |
| 14:02.44 | Movix | http://cgi.ebay.com/SPECTRAL-TIGER-MOUNT-WORLD-OF-WARCRAFT-WOW-LOOT-CARD_W0QQitemZ260364161868QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item260364161868&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A570%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 |
| 14:02.59 | Movix | amazing ! |
| 14:06.47 | Arrowmaster | the cards arent being printed anymore, did you think it would go down in price? |
| 14:07.18 | Movix | no but 1200usd is a lot for a few pixels ! |
| 14:07.37 | Arrowmaster | a few extremely rare pixels |
| 14:07.47 | zenzio | it's not just pixels; it's also vertexes and textures |
| 14:08.09 | Lopeppeppy | Shaders! |
| 14:08.10 | Arrowmaster | and a shinney tcg card |
| 14:08.35 | Movix | so you think the price will continue growing ? |
| 14:08.43 | Lopeppeppy | Of course it will. |
| 14:10.25 | Movix | and event if not printed anymore it's not only a tcg card, the mount remains available IG ? |
| 14:10.28 | Arrowmaster | it has 11 hours left |
| 14:10.32 | Arrowmaster | its going to double atleast |
| 14:11.12 | Movix | waow |
| 14:11.20 | Arrowmaster | i bet it goes for atleast $2,500 |
| 14:12.16 | Lopeppeppy | Why must the forums suck when I want to flirt with Faizaniel? |
| 14:12.43 | Movix | but there a "buy it now" offers for 1000$ and nobody buy them, why ? |
| 14:14.08 | Arrowmaster | if thats true then that is odd, generally on ebay the price on anything will drasticly increase in the hour or two before it expires |
| 14:14.20 | zenzio | is it possible to use the "buy now" button if there are offers higher than its price? |
| 14:14.30 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 14:14.33 | Movix | no |
| 14:14.44 | zenzio | then someone might have just not noticed the buy now price and placed a bid |
| 14:14.50 | Movix | but on these there are no possibility to bid, only "buy it now" |
| 14:14.58 | zenzio | oh, I see |
| 14:15.01 | Movix | it's confusing |
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| 14:16.38 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr for forums being pissy. |
| 14:16.39 | ecstasia | o noes i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle |
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| 14:17.40 | Lopeppeppy | ~hug ecstasia |
| 14:17.41 | purl | ACTION hugs ecstasia |
| 14:20.24 | Lopeppeppy | Duh. It's Tuesday, and a new PTR, of COURSE the forums are hosed what was I thinking. Okay. |
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| 15:16.12 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Seerah! |
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| 15:24.19 | Adys | any bash pro? |
| 15:25.07 | Adys | well actually pretty basic stuff |
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| 15:25.39 | Arrowmaster | like? |
| 15:25.44 | Adys | wondering how to grab current directory name (not full path), and move a file to that_name.png |
| 15:27.05 | Lopeppeppy | ~pounce |Jelly| |
| 15:27.06 | purl | ACTION jumps on |Jelly| and bounces around Tigger style |
| 15:27.12 | |Jelly| | !! |
| 15:28.00 | Adys | basename `pwd` |
| 15:31.11 | Lopeppeppy | Deal, Pooh. |
| 15:31.25 | |Jelly| | My eyes keep getting pseudo glued closed :( |
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| 15:34.29 | Lopeppeppy | ... If it's superglue, nail polish remover helps. |
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| 15:56.37 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: is it normal to boot into a freshly updated f10 to a screen of segfaults? |
| 15:56.50 | Lopeppeppy | segfault /= normal. |
| 15:56.57 | ScytheBlade1 | That is my guess too |
| 15:57.10 | ScytheBlade1 | But maybe there is some important setting or config I'm missing that will make them all go away |
| 15:57.21 | Lopeppeppy | I hope so, ScytheBlade1. |
| 16:00.57 | Lopeppeppy | I do too... mine is currently trash, I'll be wiping and reinstalling windoze this weekend. |
| 16:01.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I was going to do it this weekend |
| 16:01.48 | ScytheBlade1 | But then I had apps start randomly crashing on me |
| 16:02.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Like for example, my IM client, music player, desktop... |
| 16:02.25 | Lopeppeppy | *nod* Adding/deleting apps is crashing me, I give up. I'll transfer a little bit of data over the next few nights and then wipe over the weekend. |
| 16:03.26 | ScytheBlade1 | And whoever chose a low contrast ratio for this shell really pisses me off |
| 16:03.34 | ScytheBlade1 | dark white text on a light grey background |
| 16:03.46 | Lopeppeppy | Sexy. Not. |
| 16:06.30 | cog|work | rawr |
| 16:06.37 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR |
| 16:07.16 | Lopeppeppy | OMG! That's right, I was going to order some of those. At lunch I will. |
| 16:07.30 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: awfully fancy for a WOW ADDICT. I DON'T BELIEVE YOU. |
| 16:09.10 | Lopeppeppy | Their fox is not right. |
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| 16:12.32 | cog|work | http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/bizniss.jpg |
| 16:12.40 | cog|work | Fisker-: ^ |
| 16:13.52 | zenzelezz | why is the copyright sign spikey? |
| 16:13.54 | Lopeppeppy | Love it. :) |
| 16:14.46 | Fisker- | hwhy so censored? |
| 16:16.50 | Olison | pixals! |
| 16:16.54 | cog|work | Fisker-: dun want u stalking mee :P |
| 16:17.02 | AckisWork | rofl |
| 16:17.25 | cog|work | zenzelezz: my logo is its own copyright assertion |
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| 16:33.44 | Lunessa | station. |
| 16:33.59 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa dear. |
| 16:34.00 | Lunessa | QQ, PTR queue is full. |
| 16:35.19 | Lopeppeppy | QQ, forums are ze borked. |
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| 16:37.58 | |Jelly| | cog|work: http://brassgoggles.co.uk/brassgoggles/200902/antipodean-steampunk-pc-the-communicator <-- Build me one |
| 16:39.42 | Lunessa | "there is high demand for an aquatic mount, so much of my time is spent unda da sea.... where each little clam here know how to jam here take it from me! " http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15234889347&sid=1 |
| 16:42.13 | Wimpsy` | Hehe, at the end of that thread, "rust ftl" |
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| 16:47.07 | lua_bot | [L4E]Flowy: No output |
| 16:47.21 | [L4E]Flowy | lua> print(" ") |
| 16:47.21 | lua_bot | [L4E]Flowy: No output |
| 16:47.27 | [L4E]Flowy | hmm |
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| 16:48.37 | Lothaer | sup guys |
| 16:51.33 | Lunessa | sup? Reading PTR stuff before getting ready for work. |
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| 16:54.13 | Lothaer | WTF |
| 16:54.21 | Lothaer | hym of hope removed from priests? |
| 16:54.25 | Lothaer | OMFG |
| 16:55.53 | Beladona | http://wowcompares.com/0109614 |
| 16:57.19 | Lothaer | should be useful :D |
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| 16:58.03 | Lothaer | Aquatic Riding Ray - Summons and dismisses an Aquatic Riding Ray. This is an aquatic mount. |
| 16:58.05 | Lothaer | nice |
| 16:58.29 | Lothaer | and new city mounts :D |
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| 17:05.33 | nevcairiel | Is it just me, or can anyone else just laugh at those people simply crying because of a lack of volumne in their class changes? QQ we only got 3 lines of changes, QQ! |
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| 17:07.28 | zenzelezz | hey, it's not easy being a warrior |
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| 17:08.37 | mikma | fucking hell |
| 17:08.46 | mikma | blizzard should just add anal in blocklist |
| 17:08.55 | mikma | sick and tired of the anal-spam in trade |
| 17:09.02 | Lothaer | lol |
| 17:09.11 | zenzelezz | mikma: didn't you see the blue post about that? |
| 17:09.37 | Lothaer | Sudden Death anal |
| 17:09.38 | Lothaer | sorry :D |
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| 17:10.05 | durcyn | you oughta be ashamed of yourself. |
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| 17:11.32 | Lunessa | People are seriously QQing over 1000g for Dual Spec? lawl |
| 17:11.45 | Duman | yeah that's stupif |
| 17:11.45 | foxlit | People. They'll qq about anything. |
| 17:11.47 | Duman | the QQ I mean |
| 17:11.51 | Duman | stupid, too |
| 17:13.59 | Lothaer | i can get 1000g in 1 day :D |
| 17:14.04 | Lothaer | just gotta farm like all fuck |
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| 17:18.04 | Shirik | rawr |
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| 17:19.11 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15234889182&postId=153395155088&sid=1#92 |
| 17:19.12 | alestane | I'm really not supposed to be escared of teh rawr. |
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| 17:20.16 | erikd | yay ptr! |
| 17:20.55 | erikd | has anyone had a chance to look through the key binding stuff for dual specs? |
| 17:21.11 | Shirik | Lunessa >< |
| 17:21.32 | Lunessa | Shirik: Com'on, that was /funny/. |
| 17:21.49 | Shirik | Maybe it's that I've had 4 hours of sleep in the last 2 days :P |
| 17:21.57 | Shirik | well |
| 17:22.00 | Shirik | maybe closer to 5 |
| 17:22.18 | Shirik | That being said |
| 17:22.21 | Shirik | I don't even have 500g |
| 17:22.24 | Shirik | Am I really that far off? |
| 17:22.39 | erikd | do you have any gathering profs? |
| 17:22.45 | Shirik | nope |
| 17:22.51 | erikd | which ones do you have? |
| 17:22.54 | Shirik | I need alchemy & tailoring for raiding |
| 17:23.02 | Shirik | well |
| 17:23.08 | Shirik | I guess tailoring can be argued as a "gathering prof" now |
| 17:23.13 | Shirik | but not really |
| 17:23.23 | erikd | eh, you can't really make as much as herbalism or mining |
| 17:23.29 | Shirik | yeah |
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| 17:23.45 | erikd | do you raid at all? i usually make ~300g on tuesdays raiding |
| 17:23.52 | Shirik | at all? |
| 17:23.56 | Shirik | I raid 4 days a week |
| 17:24.11 | Shirik | I might make that much, but I also spend that much |
| 17:24.14 | erikd | that should be some good money then |
| 17:24.16 | nevcairiel | You require 4 days a week for the current content? |
| 17:24.17 | erikd | ah |
| 17:24.24 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Our schedule allows for it |
| 17:24.26 | erikd | nev: don't judge! |
| 17:24.29 | Shirik | lately we finish on Wednesday :( |
| 17:24.40 | Shirik | So on thursday and sunday we do random crap |
| 17:24.43 | Shirik | like BC content or whatever |
| 17:24.47 | nevcairiel | Our schedule still has 4 days too, but longer then 2 days and we really failed |
| 17:25.14 | nevcairiel | normally we do 5 days, like when ulduar will be new etc |
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| 17:25.29 | Shirik | we do 4 days a week, 3 hours a day |
| 17:25.34 | erikd | so nev, do you know if bt4 will be able to save all the keybindings for dual specs? :P |
| 17:25.52 | erikd | i dunno how keybindings are done so the diff doesn't help me |
| 17:25.53 | nevcairiel | BT4 doesnt save keybindings at all |
| 17:25.54 | Shirik | s/do you know if/make it so that/ |
| 17:25.57 | Shirik | :P |
| 17:26.04 | erikd | err, /kb whatever that is |
| 17:26.22 | nevcairiel | Last i heard, keybindings will be saved server-side together with your spec |
| 17:26.22 | Shirik | wait, there's a BT4? |
| 17:26.26 | Shirik | What happened to BT3? |
| 17:26.28 | nevcairiel | so when you change, they change |
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| 17:26.54 | Stanzilla | welcome to 2009, Shirik |
| 17:26.54 | nevcairiel | Shirik: BT3 wasnt strong enough to survive into 3.0 =P |
| 17:27.05 | Shirik | so what happened to BT2 |
| 17:27.10 | nevcairiel | 1.x |
| 17:27.15 | Shirik | so what happened to BT1! |
| 17:27.19 | nevcairiel | I dunno |
| 17:27.20 | Shirik | 0.x? |
| 17:27.22 | nevcairiel | ask mikma |
| 17:27.24 | erikd | nev: yeah, i was wondering about the mods that add extra buttons above and beyond the number blizzard provides |
| 17:27.25 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:27.40 | nevcairiel | it was his back then |
| 17:27.44 | nevcairiel | i only wrote 3 and 4 |
| 17:27.46 | Shirik | I actually didn't know that |
| 17:27.46 | nevcairiel | and helped a bit with 2 |
| 17:28.13 | erikd | i blame my ipod touch for not doing wow mods like i wanted to |
| 17:28.33 | Shirik | Dolby said I should make an iphone version of the updater |
| 17:28.50 | nevcairiel | To update the addons on your iphone, where you can run WoW, yes? |
| 17:28.54 | Shirik | yes |
| 17:29.36 | erikd | uh, what? |
| 17:30.11 | nevcairiel | I would like a vista gadget that tells me about news and new addons on WoWI |
| 17:30.13 | nevcairiel | go do that |
| 17:31.19 | Shirik | That's not a bad idea |
| 17:31.22 | erikd | wouldn't be too bad from what i understand. i think those widgets are all html and javascript |
| 17:31.22 | Shirik | but, one thing at a time |
| 17:31.28 | mikma | waaa |
| 17:31.33 | Shirik | MIKMA |
| 17:31.40 | Shirik | Why you make so many version of BT |
| 17:31.54 | mikma | because world needs more |
| 17:32.24 | Shirik | ok |
| 17:32.28 | Shirik | nevcairiel, please make BT5 |
| 17:32.33 | Shirik | actually |
| 17:32.33 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 17:32.35 | Shirik | just go to BT6 |
| 17:32.36 | Shirik | is ok |
| 17:32.41 | mikma | well |
| 17:32.46 | nevcairiel | 4 works fine |
| 17:32.48 | mikma | he should have skipped 4 and go into 5 |
| 17:32.50 | Shirik | and Ace 4 |
| 17:33.11 | mikma | and then do BT6: Shape Up or Slip Out! |
| 17:33.14 | Lunessa | Shirik: Don't make me come pound you until you sleep for three days. |
| 17:33.18 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:33.37 | durcyn | does 'pound' have any connotations that aren't sexual there? |
| 17:33.50 | Lunessa | they imply physical violence, not sex. |
| 17:33.56 | durcyn | sure, sure. |
| 17:34.16 | Lunessa | Shirik isn't my type. Entirely the wrong set of plumbing. |
| 17:34.25 | Shirik | Seerah|Away said I was human |
| 17:34.30 | Shirik | I disagree |
| 17:34.32 | mikma | after 6 comes of course BT7: Love for sail! |
| 17:34.44 | nevcairiel | What are you then? |
| 17:34.46 | Lunessa | OK, Off to the office. Backlater. |
| 17:34.56 | Shirik | not sure :) Gotta go though |
| 17:34.56 | Shirik | bbl |
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| 17:37.01 | Jelly_ | autotronic threat-o-matic!! |
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| 17:43.25 | Shriik | Hi again |
| 17:43.27 | Shriik | did you miss me? |
| 17:43.33 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
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| 17:43.41 | Shirik | just admit it |
| 17:43.45 | Shirik | I know you did |
| 17:44.07 | Jelly__ | I admit it. I luff Shirik |
| 17:44.10 | Wimpsy` | Shirik: How's the UI Manager coming along? |
| 17:44.59 | Shirik | manager core: 10 issues currently open, wowi module: 3 issues currently open. It's actually a lot better than it sounds considering most of those are trivial issues. |
| 17:45.21 | Wimpsy` | Nice |
| 17:45.26 | Shirik | those are issues that _must_ be resolved before beta can be released |
| 17:45.29 | Wimpsy` | Do you have an ETA? |
| 17:45.42 | Shirik | well my ETA was the 28th, but it doesn't seem like that's going to be hit as I'm getting a lot of schoolwork |
| 17:45.49 | Wimpsy` | ah i see |
| 17:45.55 | Arrowmaster | you know i must admit this is quite cool to watch being played on a guitar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69xeiMUVZhc |
| 17:46.00 | Shirik | but you never know |
| 17:46.07 | Wimpsy` | True that |
| 17:46.47 | Wimpsy` | Would be sweet to use it, as i refuse to WowMatrix but i still want an addon manager |
| 17:46.54 | Wimpsy` | to use WowMatrix* |
| 17:47.08 | Wimpsy` | and Curse Client only installs addons from curse amirite? |
| 17:48.22 | Shirik | well I should point out that while the ui manager will be able to run modules for any site, I won't be writing any curse module |
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| 17:48.31 | Shirik | it's possible for someone else to do it, but |
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| 17:48.44 | nevcairiel | People should just work together on one updater <.< |
| 17:48.53 | Wimpsy` | aye nev |
| 17:48.56 | erikd | i miss jwowupdater |
| 17:49.05 | Wimpsy` | as do i :( |
| 17:49.10 | erikd | i haven't updated my mods since the 3.0 patch pre wotlk |
| 17:49.16 | erikd | i'm too lazy to update them |
| 17:49.58 | Shirik | nevcairiel: You know that will never happen |
| 17:49.58 | Shirik | too much competition |
| 17:50.04 | Shirik | This is my attempt to bridge the gap and remain open |
| 17:50.06 | foxlit | think of all the ad revenue! |
| 17:50.16 | Shirik | but for legal reasons I can't go around making modules for curse, etc. |
| 17:50.19 | erikd | shirik: what are you writing it in? |
| 17:50.24 | foxlit | why won't anyone think of the ad revenue :/ |
| 17:50.29 | Shirik | It's runs on J2SE 6 |
| 17:51.21 | erikd | need any help in the hour or so i actually have time to help in during a week? :) |
| 17:51.26 | Shirik | So anyone can write their own module, package it as a JAR archive, and load it into the program, Ericpeeg |
| 17:51.43 | Shirik | erikd* |
| 17:51.43 | Shirik | blah |
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| 17:51.57 | foxlit | eureka? |
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| 17:54.45 | foxlit | http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8992/wowscrnshot022409161144.jpg << doesn't go far enough |
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| 17:55.01 | foxlit | Should be "You will be teleported to the nearest graveyard and executed in 56 seconds." |
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| 17:55.09 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:55.25 | Aqua | ah they would never do that |
| 17:55.38 | Aqua | the ninja hs is part of the game |
| 17:56.00 | Aqua | changing it would create too many other issues |
| 17:56.21 | foxlit | I thought overpowered death knights were part of the game. |
| 17:56.52 | Aqua | every class is overpowered in their own right... |
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| 17:57.33 | Fisker- | except palas |
| 17:57.49 | Fisker- | but no moar ghetto hearthing foxlit :( |
| 17:58.09 | Aqua | they really took it out? |
| 17:58.18 | foxlit | [[Soon, we will see as yet unnamed Old Gods with the titles, "Beast of a thousand hands", "Beast of a thousand ears" and "Beast of a thousand noses". |
| 17:58.19 | foxlit | The nose Old God will sneeze on the raid, and yell "I CAN SMELL YOU!" when we enter his instance, in an annoyingly nasal voice.]] |
| 17:58.51 | Aqua | holy crap i just looked at the screen shot |
| 17:58.55 | Aqua | they did take it out |
| 17:59.15 | foxlit | Where's your GOD now, Aqua? :) |
| 17:59.49 | Aqua | i'm not gonna get on the god topic |
| 18:00.07 | Aqua | you don't want me too |
| 18:00.36 | foxlit | I'm only quoting the kitty pictures, really. |
| 18:01.45 | Aqua | i'm just playing |
| 18:01.56 | Aqua | sorry rough day for the narcoleptic |
| 18:02.03 | Fisker- | i hate blizzard :( |
| 18:02.14 | Fisker- | Now i'm forced to buy a dalaran ring |
| 18:02.36 | erikd | i'm glad i have my hearth, dalaran ring AND inscription on my druid |
| 18:02.44 | Wimpsy` | This be bugged right? http://wowwebstats.com/gfrwywvwpvais?s=148382-177074 |
| 18:03.05 | erikd | if i need to go back to dalaran more than that then i'm planning my time wrong |
| 18:03.49 | erikd | sure looks like it |
| 18:04.04 | foxlit | I'd say that the duration is wrong |
| 18:04.07 | erikd | yeah |
| 18:04.23 | foxlit | Things being in german complicates things, but I don't think you can fire |
| 18:04.36 | foxlit | 41 of what looks like arcane barrage in 24 seconds. |
| 18:04.39 | Wimpsy` | Because, 50k dps is quite overwhelming ._. |
| 18:05.22 | Wimpsy` | http://wowwebstats.com/xi35ngpfo25rk?s=426833-450540 - This looks more like it yeah |
| 18:05.32 | Lunessa | Did anyone NOT see this coming - http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/funcom-reports-q4-USD23-3m-loss |
| 18:06.14 | Wimpsy` | That is what i'd like to call... |
| 18:06.16 | Wimpsy` | ... pwnt |
| 18:06.49 | erikd | there aren't even any characters on the EU armory with those names wimpsy |
| 18:06.55 | alestane | '...saying it was hampered by "shorter average subscription periods than anticipated". ' |
| 18:06.56 | Fisker- | i didn't Lunessa |
| 18:07.07 | Osagasu | lol. |
| 18:07.11 | alestane | In other words, the game bit and people quit. |
| 18:07.19 | erikd | but age of conan was a wow killer! |
| 18:07.25 | erikd | so was WAR |
| 18:07.28 | Lunessa | "Age of Conan was the third best-selling PC game in 2008 in the US market, after World of Warcraft and Spore," the company explained, saying it was hampered by "shorter average subscription periods than anticipated". |
| 18:07.39 | erikd | haha |
| 18:07.47 | erikd | that's completely right |
| 18:07.52 | Lunessa | Like, most people couldn't get past the free month. |
| 18:07.59 | erikd | i played up to 20 or 25 and stopped playing |
| 18:08.04 | Lunessa | Oh god it was terrible. |
| 18:08.13 | alestane | I've seen clips of Warhammer Online and I found the character animations really disappointing. |
| 18:08.16 | erikd | it was fun until there stopped being content |
| 18:08.43 | Osagasu | You don't really notice most of them when you're playing alestane. |
| 18:09.06 | Wimpsy` | <erikd> there aren't even any characters on the EU armory with those names wimpsy |
| 18:09.10 | Wimpsy` | Huh? :P |
| 18:09.19 | alestane | Good, because the walk cycles and swing animations were REALLY wooden. |
| 18:09.36 | erikd | in that wws you linked, the top 3 on dps don't come up in an armory search of the EU |
| 18:09.47 | Wimpsy` | perhaps they're US based? |
| 18:10.05 | erikd | with german localization? |
| 18:10.09 | Wimpsy` | Yes |
| 18:10.17 | Wimpsy` | Germanicans |
| 18:10.26 | erikd | didn't even know they had a german us client |
| 18:10.35 | Wimpsy` | "Doing it wild style." |
| 18:10.43 | Wimpsy` | I'm just guessing |
| 18:10.49 | Wimpsy` | ;) |
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| 18:12.23 | Eufemia|home | hey all |
| 18:12.23 | erikd | yeah... they're not showing up on the us armory either |
| 18:12.26 | erikd | that's all bs |
| 18:12.41 | durcyn | or it's an anonymous report with randomized names. |
| 18:12.56 | Wimpsy` | perhaps |
| 18:12.59 | Wimpsy` | But, i'm afk now. :) |
| 18:13.53 | erikd | nope, i still say it's bs |
| 18:15.02 | Eufemia|home | sorry to interupt your discussion, but could some1 recomend some good lua editor? |
| 18:15.02 | alestane | Well sh1t, Hysteria and Hysteria don't stack anymore. |
| 18:15.42 | Lopeppeppy | They should have? |
| 18:15.56 | alestane | "Hysteria, Tricks of the Trade, Enrage, Wrecking Crew, Death Wish, Arcane Power, Owlkin Frenzy, Beast Within, Avenging Wrath and Hysteria damage bonuses no longer stack together." |
| 18:16.29 | Lunessa | Eufemia|home: You can edit lua in any text editor. Howerver, for Windows I use Notepad++ and on Mac OSX I use Eclipse or TextWrangler |
| 18:16.44 | Wimpsy` | I recommend Notepad++ |
| 18:16.49 | ronghail | vim |
| 18:17.14 | NeoTron | cute. both World of Raids and MMO Champion are dead and/or have issues (temporarily not working etc) |
| 18:17.39 | Eufemia|home | I dont like Vim on windows, I'll try Notepad++ |
| 18:17.42 | Eufemia|home | is it free? |
| 18:17.45 | Lunessa | PTR opens day and maintenance. They're getting 100x normal hits. |
| 18:17.55 | NeoTron | oh I know |
| 18:18.09 | NeoTron | so the equipment manager - seems the need for ClosetGnome etc will go away |
| 18:18.10 | Lunessa | Yes, Notepad++ is free, but they do like donations. :) |
| 18:18.17 | NeoTron | or rather, the code for such addons can be simplified a lot |
| 18:18.31 | NeoTron | wonder if the equipment manager will properly handle changed enchants and gems |
| 18:18.58 | Lunessa | Like, the same item with more than one enchant? |
| 18:19.10 | NightHawkTheSane | well, either updating the set if you change the gem/enchant |
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| 18:19.18 | Lunessa | Or multiple items, same item but different enchants. |
| 18:19.28 | NightHawkTheSane | or that, yes |
| 18:19.31 | NightHawkTheSane | both are important |
| 18:19.55 | NeoTron | Lunessa: either what you and NHTS said |
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| 18:20.27 | NeoTron | besically if I swap gems around the "hash" of an item changes in the way CG saves it and yeah sometimes you'd have the same item with different gems and/or enchants |
| 18:21.08 | NeoTron | # Glyph of Pestilence - Your Pestilence ability now refreshes disease durations on your primary target back to their maximum duration. <-- that is very leet |
| 18:21.33 | NeoTron | quite a bit more useful glyphs to choose from come 4.1 |
| 18:21.35 | NeoTron | 3.1 even |
| 18:21.59 | NeoTron | interestingly there's still no glyph of incinerate for some reason |
| 18:22.40 | Aqua | are they gonna fix warlocks in 3.1 |
| 18:22.57 | NeoTron | lol |
| 18:22.59 | NeoTron | sure |
| 18:23.05 | NeoTron | if by fix you mean neuter |
| 18:23.08 | NeoTron | from the looks of it :P |
| 18:23.13 | NeoTron | as in "fix your dog" |
| 18:23.19 | NightHawkTheSane | nobody likes warlocks anyway |
| 18:25.00 | Lunessa | It's my personal experience that people always claim their class is broken. It comes from expect their class to do something some other class does - and their reference point is usually some outlier. |
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| 18:25.11 | Aqua | # Demonic Sacrifice:This talent has been removed. |
| 18:25.13 | Aqua | wtf |
| 18:25.36 | Syzgyn | Fury nerfs make me a sad panda |
| 18:25.40 | NeoTron | Lunessa: I'm a DK now but I have a 80 lock.. and some of the changes look like outright nerfs when that really isn't needed |
| 18:25.59 | NeoTron | although affliction will be more manageable with just 3 dots |
| 18:26.05 | NeoTron | two which can crit |
| 18:26.16 | NightHawkTheSane | hm.instance maps.. |
| 18:26.18 | Arrowmaster | atleast now theres a soulstone spec i can say i dont have |
| 18:26.19 | Aqua | why are they take demonic sacrife out, i like that spell |
| 18:26.21 | Lunessa | I haven't read all the patch notes, I'm just not convinced when everyone screams "ZOMG you're nerfing me and I'm all broken!" |
| 18:26.25 | NeoTron | and giving second life to soul fire isn't a bad thing |
| 18:26.42 | NeoTron | Aqua: the use of that spell since 3.0 ahs been limited to the extreme |
| 18:26.48 | NeoTron | not exactly a loss |
| 18:27.27 | Syzgyn | I wont claim fury is broken without some testing, but a buff to offset TG would be really nice now. |
| 18:27.35 | Aqua | i speced into still |
| 18:27.43 | Aqua | becase my imp dies all the time |
| 18:27.49 | Aqua | i still did decent damage too |
| 18:28.19 | Hjalte | Syzgyn: Our fury warrior is already crying because of the recent nerfs. He'll be devastated now :) |
| 18:28.45 | kd3 | heh, oops. they broke some of the models up in the argent tournament grounds |
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| 18:30.06 | Beladona | I really wish Blizz would say something about the water shield bug already. At least something like "We are fixing it" |
| 18:30.18 | Beladona | preferrably IN 3.1 |
| 18:30.41 | erikd | i wish they'd fix the tree form knockback bug that's been in the game since before BT |
| 18:30.45 | alestane | NeoTron: I don't see anything in those notes that's a clear nerf. Some of the changes may have some unforeseen implications, and a lot of them look like they increase strategic complexity, but most are sidegrades rather than downgrades. |
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| 18:32.10 | NightHawkTheSane | yay, "Be Mine was not removed from the meta; it's still there. However, the achievement has been changed to require any six of the eight possible candies." |
| 18:32.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Beladona: water shield bug? |
| 18:34.29 | Syzgyn | Hjalte: I can still place top 3 right now, I dont see that happening with 10% off all my damage. |
| 18:35.28 | Beladona | NightHawkTheSane: http://elitistjerks.com/f79/t38216-resto_water_shield_data_calculations/ |
| 18:36.01 | Beladona | water shield orbs that proc on dmg return more mana than those that proc on heal crit |
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| 18:36.22 | Beladona | due to a calculation bug in the heal crit talent that doesn't take into account certain bonuses |
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| 18:36.46 | Shirik | rawr |
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| 18:37.19 | Beladona | its not major, but with full talents / t7 it accounts for about 62 mana lost on each proc |
| 18:37.30 | alestane | No more Blackout!???!? |
| 18:37.46 | Shirik | Mama said black you out! |
| 18:38.29 | Lopeppeppy | What! |
| 18:38.51 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I saw someone else with a WoWI updater, someone's stealing your mojo! |
| 18:39.10 | alestane | What will my wife make up songs about while she's playing her shadow priest now? |
| 18:39.13 | Shirik | be careful Lopeppeppy |
| 18:39.21 | Shirik | read its description, not its title |
| 18:39.56 | NeoTron | Aqua: I can assure you that a DS lock woudln't be competetive with other specs that use the pet overall |
| 18:40.19 | Aqua | i haven't played my lock at all |
| 18:40.25 | Aqua | other than affliction |
| 18:40.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Beladona: ah, that bug. |
| 18:40.32 | Lopeppeppy | I thought I did. Oh well! |
| 18:40.36 | NeoTron | alestane: for warlock? well, they remove immolate from Affliction, Siphon Life doesn't do any damage |
| 18:40.53 | Lunessa | "Trap Mastery: This talent has been moved up to tier-2, up from tier-9." I don't think we'll hear many complaints about that. |
| 18:41.11 | Shirik | ok I might go to sleep now |
| 18:41.25 | alestane | Yes, it's one less DoT, but it's also one less GCD and rotation. |
| 18:42.37 | alestane | Improved Shadow Bolt is useful in raids again. |
| 18:43.23 | durcyn | only if there are no mages, isb == scorch == winters chill |
| 18:43.55 | alestane | "Jewelcrafting: Added a new recipe to cut black diamonds." |
| 18:44.03 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: or just arcane mages. |
| 18:44.04 | alestane | durcyn: But in 10-mans that's a real possibility. |
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| 18:44.25 | alestane | Pity I finally threw away all my black diamonds. |
| 18:44.31 | durcyn | i'm not convinced it'll be a personal dps increase, even with the 5% passive |
| 18:45.37 | Shirik | oh realms are up |
| 18:46.14 | NeoTron | durcyn: except mages lose DPS by using scorch while locks, affliction at least, use it naturally |
| 18:46.31 | durcyn | not below 25%. |
| 18:46.41 | NeoTron | point |
| 18:46.52 | Lunessa | PvP shaman rejoice: New Talent: Frozen Power: Increases the damage done by your Frostbrand Weapon if it is enchanted on your main-hand weapon by 10/20%, and your Frost Shock has a 50/100% chance to root the target in Ice for 5 sec. when used on targets at or further than 15 yards from you. |
| 18:47.07 | NeoTron | durcyn: have a metalock do it then :) |
| 18:47.38 | durcyn | NeoTron: it just needs to be a common passive debuff procced by all three talents |
| 18:48.20 | durcyn | what i'm really curious about is if it finally works on pandemic |
| 18:49.58 | Cidan | wow |
| 18:50.04 | alestane | "Ancestral Awakening: This talent now accounts for your ineffective healing, rather than effective." <- what exactly does this mean? |
| 18:50.06 | Cidan | the new Safari beta is nice |
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| 18:51.09 | nevcairiel | alestane: all healing, including overhealing, weird wording .. we druids got the same on a talent |
| 18:51.17 | durcyn | huh, 9614 interfacexml includes a Joystick directory |
| 18:55.05 | Lunessa | ... # Added a new recipe for the Titansteel Spellblade. |
| 18:56.30 | erikd | nev: it's a good change, though |
| 18:56.40 | erikd | it makes it a talent i'd actually use now |
| 18:56.55 | Shirik | My resilience is currently at 238 |
| 18:56.59 | Shirik | it should be closer to 250 |
| 18:57.06 | Shirik | what's a piece of gear that would give about that amount of resil? |
| 18:58.40 | Shirik | nm found it |
| 19:08.12 | cog|work | ~lart the Blizzard Launcher for using IE for links instead of the default browser |
| 19:08.12 | purl | gives the Blizzard Launcher for using IE an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending the Blizzard Launcher for using IE to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple for links instead of the default browser |
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| 19:08.51 | Dewin | parse error. segmentation fault. |
| 19:09.07 | erikd | cog: that's especially nice because IE tends to crash on Win7 when it opens the first time (at least on the one I'm using) |
| 19:09.08 | cog|work | Dewin: man woman ? |
| 19:09.40 | Dewin | cog|work: who mom likes? |
| 19:10.19 | Shirik | cog|work: Why should it matter? |
| 19:10.27 | Shirik | erikd: There's a fix for that |
| 19:10.36 | Shirik | it has to do with some registry key |
| 19:10.40 | cog|work | Shirik: i set the default browser on my system for a reason... |
| 19:10.43 | erikd | hmm |
| 19:10.59 | Dewin | It drives me nuts too. |
| 19:10.59 | erikd | i thought you were going to say something like "Uninstall windows and install linux" |
| 19:11.00 | Shirik | cog|work: Oh you mean when you click on a link |
| 19:11.03 | Shirik | I thought you meant integrated |
| 19:11.10 | Dewin | erikd: Well, that'd fix it too. |
| 19:11.18 | Dewin | 1000G for dual spec? Ouch. |
| 19:11.30 | erikd | it's not enough of an issue to me to bother with it. i just don't click on links in steam or the wow launcher |
| 19:11.37 | NeoTron | Dewin: yeah that's pretty cheap. glad it wasn't expensive |
| 19:11.46 | Dewin | Neotron: I have less than 1000g across all toons. |
| 19:11.53 | durcyn | i hope they raise it to 5k for live |
| 19:11.56 | Dewin | I just finished burning 7000g that I'd been saving for TWO MONTHS. |
| 19:12.06 | NeoTron | Dewin: fail less? :P |
| 19:12.08 | Shirik | ~kill NeoTron |
| 19:12.08 | purl | ACTION shoots a super-inverse pseudoneutrino gun at NeoTron |
| 19:12.09 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 19:12.10 | NeoTron | you can make 300g per hour |
| 19:12.17 | NeoTron | doing dailies |
| 19:12.18 | Shirik | Sure, you can make 300g per hour |
| 19:12.23 | Shirik | or you could have fun and do what you want to do |
| 19:12.25 | Gnarfoz | wow practically *gives* you 300g/h if you don't afk :p |
| 19:12.31 | NeoTron | I've spent 1900g on respecs on my DK |
| 19:12.33 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: if that includes having two specs |
| 19:12.40 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: you know where this is going. :p |
| 19:12.42 | Dewin | err, I made more like 130g doing dailies. |
| 19:12.49 | Shirik | I have no reason to have two specs |
| 19:12.51 | NeoTron | and I spent an infinite amount more on my warlock ni BC |
| 19:12.57 | Gnarfoz | then you have no reason to spend 1kg on it. |
| 19:13.12 | Shirik | I was unaware that you can do a daily every 2 minutes |
| 19:13.17 | Shirik | including travel time |
| 19:13.20 | Shirik | that's quite impressive |
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| 19:13.58 | Dewin | I don't get a lot of 'farming' time in WoW, most of it's raiding or levelling my mage. I work for a living. :-p |
| 19:14.09 | Gnarfoz | as do most. |
| 19:14.21 | NeoTron | I love that argument :P |
| 19:14.28 | Shirik | I'm with Dewin on this one, I'm rather sick of the answer to everything being "Oh well you can go do dailies and make 5000000g a day" |
| 19:14.33 | Gnarfoz | if you have time for an alt, you have time to "farm" (lol) 1000g for having 2 specs. :p |
| 19:14.39 | NeoTron | because I don't work, live in moms basement and... oh wait no I don't |
| 19:14.49 | Dewin | Gnarfoz: Said alt is level 79 and will likely be my main at 80. |
| 19:14.57 | Gnarfoz | Dewin: so? |
| 19:15.01 | Dewin | and I technically need to raise 2000g, not 1000g. |
| 19:15.03 | Gnarfoz | Dewin: that's *no* argument for anything :p |
| 19:15.26 | Shirik | NeoTron: Nobody said you don't |
| 19:15.38 | Dewin | Gnarfoz: I'd much rather spend the time levelling my alt with my wife than going on my own and farming :-p |
| 19:15.40 | Gnarfoz | "oh well let me switch mains really quickly here, won't cost a dime" :p |
| 19:15.47 | Dewin | WoW isn't a second job for me. >.> |
| 19:15.59 | Gnarfoz | so? :P |
| 19:16.07 | Shirik | I suggest that you be all little less confrontational if you want this to be an actual discussion instead of a bickering contest |
| 19:16.10 | Shirik | all be* |
| 19:16.30 | Gnarfoz | I couldn't care less, I'm earning my money by raiding :O |
| 19:16.32 | Shirik | you're both right, stop beating a dead horse |
| 19:16.57 | Shirik | If either of you had the answer for a 3 year old argument you'd probably be the king of WoW right now |
| 19:17.12 | Gnarfoz | dual spec has been here for 3 years now |
| 19:17.13 | Gnarfoz | cool |
| 19:17.14 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:17.21 | Shirik | That's not the argument you're having and you know it |
| 19:17.22 | Dewin | Gnarfoz: I lose my money by raiding. |
| 19:17.25 | Shirik | Again, stop picking fights just to pick them |
| 19:17.32 | Dewin | But then again, it costs me gold every time I attack. |
| 19:17.45 | Gnarfoz | it costs everyone gold everytime they fight *anything* |
| 19:17.54 | Dewin | On top of that gold. |
| 19:18.00 | Gnarfoz | what. |
| 19:18.05 | kraft | could help me with a addon syncing problem please ? (its kinda complicated :S ) |
| 19:18.10 | kraft | anyone* |
| 19:18.15 | Dewin | I spend an additional ~30g on ammo every raid. |
| 19:18.19 | Lunessa | I am the King of WoW. Henceforth, all UR ALT R BELONG TO US. |
| 19:18.28 | Gnarfoz | boo-hoo? you don't pay for wipes, though. :p |
| 19:18.42 | Dewin | Actually, being that most of our wipes are the kind FD won't get you out of, yes I do. |
| 19:19.24 | Gnarfoz | I keep forgetting how many those are :o |
| 19:19.51 | Lunessa | kraft: If your problem is complex, you might want to write a full description of it on pastey or a forum, include code - then ask your question and post a link. |
| 19:19.54 | Shirik | kraft: |
| 19:19.55 | Shirik | ~asktoask |
| 19:19.56 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 19:19.56 | Gnarfoz | in terms of not earning money raiding: you will earn money if you're done progressing and start farming crap :| |
| 19:20.14 | kraft | ok ty |
| 19:20.16 | Shirik | And seriously, Gnarfoz and Dewin, shut up. You both are acting like little children, even by internet standards. |
| 19:20.16 | Gnarfoz | crap being raid dungeons |
| 19:20.20 | Dewin | Yeah, I finally noticed that I do turn a small profit raiding, but it's small. |
| 19:20.44 | Dewin | Not enough to save up for dual spec without some additional farming, for certain |
| 19:20.45 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: don't you have homework to do, wtf |
| 19:20.57 | Dewin | (and only because I'm being lazy and not buying flasks) |
| 19:21.34 | Lopeppeppy | kraft, you may need to pastey your code using the pastey in the channel topic, so that people can look at it. |
| 19:22.10 | kraft | ok thanks :) |
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| 19:22.30 | Shirik | I'm not quite sure I understand what "addon syncing problem" is |
| 19:22.36 | Gnarfoz | there's bound to be someone who's sick of WoW requiring less and less effort all around everywhere you go anyway :[ |
| 19:22.45 | kraft | ill pastey it |
| 19:22.58 | Gnarfoz | anyway, food! :> |
| 19:23.46 | Shirik | I could go for some macaroni and cheese |
| 19:24.57 | NeoTron | Dewin: what class do you play out of curiosity? |
| 19:25.06 | NeoTron | oh hunter nm |
| 19:25.17 | NeoTron | so as a hunter do you really respec enough to make it worth it? |
| 19:25.50 | NeoTron | as a DK that tanks or dpses it's very valuable for me (as I said already spent almost 2x as much on respecs on the dk) |
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| 19:32.16 | Lopeppeppy | Awww. Sleep well, Shirik, I'll try not to move around too much. |
| 19:32.23 | Shirik | er |
| 19:32.28 | Shirik | not what I meant, but ok :P |
| 19:32.33 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 19:37.59 | Lunessa | Fellow trackball lovers, rejoice... http://us.kensington.com/html/2200.html |
| 19:38.22 | Shirik | I have a random question |
| 19:38.34 | Kirov | Lunessa - 4 buttons, no scroll |
| 19:38.41 | Shirik | I tend to write "for (int i = 0; i < n; ++i)" instead of "for (int i = 0; i < n; i++)" |
| 19:38.43 | Shirik | Am I the only one? |
| 19:38.54 | Kirov | finger scroll |
| 19:38.55 | Lunessa | Kirov: Srcoll is ring around the ball, 4 buttons is 2 more than I have. |
| 19:39.14 | Kirov | Lunessa - 1 more, middle click! |
| 19:39.42 | Torhal | Shirik: Nah, you're not the only one who pre-increments., |
| 19:39.43 | Lunessa | Kirov: The scroll-wheel middle click is pretty useless to me, so it's as if I had no middle button. |
| 19:40.27 | Shirik | I got into the habit when I learned pre-increment is faster in non-trivial cases (e.g., when i is an object, like an iterator, instead of a number) |
| 19:40.31 | Lunessa | Ok, off to teach sheeple how to use "advanced' features of word. |
| 19:41.02 | Shirik | Type key |
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| 19:41.05 | Shirik | it appears |
| 19:41.08 | Shirik | magic |
| 19:41.14 | Shirik | now the hard part |
| 19:41.18 | Shirik | click file, then go to save |
| 19:42.26 | Shirik | and then it's on your "hard drive." "What's that?" "Well that means that it's placed on your computer so that when it turns off it won't disappear." "How?" "Well basically your computer magnetizes a portion of a disk that's inside of your computer based on the combination of letters" "What's a magnet?" |
| 19:43.23 | Gnarfoz | sounds like my 8-16 job :P |
| 19:43.35 | Gnarfoz | except it's the same for every topic, regardless |
| 19:44.20 | kraft | ok here it is: |
| 19:44.21 | kraft | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/108917 |
| 19:44.28 | kraft | i hope i have explained my problem ok :S |
| 19:47.31 | Shirik | ok first things first kraft |
| 19:47.37 | Shirik | you really need to learn how to comment code while you write it |
| 19:48.18 | kraft | ok |
| 19:48.18 | Shirik | having blocks of 100 lines of code in a row with no information on what it does (or better, is SUPPOSED to do) is not only difficult to those reading your code |
| 19:48.30 | Shirik | it also means that you will have trouble 2 weeks later (or tomorrow) when you forget what it's supposed to do yourself |
| 19:48.34 | Shirik | no don't do it now :P |
| 19:49.56 | Cidan | No, do it now |
| 19:50.03 | Cidan | Also, this is just friendly advice, :D |
| 19:50.08 | kraft | yeh cheers |
| 19:51.15 | Cidan | Dawn of War 2 is so much fun |
| 19:51.15 | pastamancer | Shirik will come to your house and hurt you if you don't comment your code |
| 19:51.22 | kraft | :'( |
| 19:51.31 | kraft | im commenting as fast as i can! |
| 19:52.48 | Lopeppeppy | Boys are such bullies. *poke* |
| 19:52.58 | Cidan | Yeah! |
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| 19:54.46 | Tekkub | okey, I love the equipment manager |
| 19:55.02 | Tekkub | they hit it on the head perfect, all the functionality that's needed, none that's not |
| 19:55.22 | Tekkub | someone tell Zooty for me :P |
| 19:56.13 | KarlKFI | is the ptr up? |
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| 19:56.30 | Tekkub | up and wantin to fuck |
| 19:56.31 | alestane | Sounds like it. |
| 19:56.36 | KarlKFI | good to know |
| 19:57.08 | Tekkub | there's an option to preview talents before you apply em... but it's not on be dafault and it really should be |
| 19:57.33 | Tekkub | the people that are more inclined to want that are also the ones that won't go into the config and never know it's there |
| 19:57.36 | Lopeppeppy | Tekkub, when next I see the Zoot, I'll tell him. |
| 19:57.48 | mikma | oh, nerf mage images |
| 19:58.04 | mikma | why they can use that shit in arenas and dk can't use raise ally |
| 19:58.09 | Tekkub | please tell him to default on preview talents, I got good arguments why it should be on :) |
| 19:58.11 | KarlKFI | dunno if i agree with that one tek |
| 19:58.22 | Tekkub | the ones that don't like it are crazy and can go turn it off |
| 19:58.48 | alestane | I think having it on by default would be awkward for new players. |
| 19:59.01 | KarlKFI | i imagine it's to avoid wtf GM tickets from people who cant use their tallents after they're clicked them |
| 19:59.08 | Lopeppeppy | Since new players can't have it, I don't think it CAN be default. |
| 19:59.20 | Tekkub | and you don't think "oh shit I didn't want that how do I undo it? I have to pay?" isn't? |
| 20:00.10 | Tekkub | there's two big buttons at the bottom |
| 20:00.16 | Tekkub | "Learn" and "reset" |
| 20:00.53 | Tekkub | they see "Okey" and "Cancel" in dialogs all the time, I think this is much more intuitive to new players |
| 20:00.58 | KarlKFI | does the rest button hide or grey after you clcik learn? |
| 20:01.10 | KarlKFI | reset* |
| 20:01.23 | Tekkub | yes |
| 20:01.32 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, I'm not bully :( |
| 20:01.36 | Tekkub | they're grey if you don't have preview talents up |
| 20:02.12 | KarlKFI | guess Tallented is gonna need a rewrite |
| 20:02.25 | KarlKFI | still need tallent templates |
| 20:03.00 | kraft | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/108921 |
| 20:03.02 | kraft | commented |
| 20:03.05 | kraft | a bit ^^ |
| 20:03.20 | KarlKFI | should be substantially easier to write tho, he'll prolly have to scrap his custom UI |
| 20:06.33 | Tekkub | what did tallented do? |
| 20:07.18 | KarlKFI | in game tallent preview and 'apply' with the ability to save spec templates |
| 20:07.39 | Tekkub | so rip out the other shit and just save templates now |
| 20:07.54 | KarlKFI | except it used it's own tallent frame replacement UI |
| 20:07.58 | Tekkub | which really isn't needed unless you want to use >2 specs |
| 20:08.15 | Tekkub | eew, replacing whole panels... |
| 20:08.16 | KarlKFI | templates are very useful |
| 20:08.36 | Tekkub | if you're switching between more than 2 specs |
| 20:08.40 | Tekkub | now ;) |
| 20:08.51 | KarlKFI | true |
| 20:09.00 | KarlKFI | which i do |
| 20:09.15 | durcyn | it also served as an in-game calculator, does the 3.1 blizzard talent ui let you fiddle with talents after you've applied them? |
| 20:09.16 | KarlKFI | ret pvp, prot pvp, ret pve |
| 20:09.17 | Tekkub | well then you suck :P |
| 20:09.27 | KarlKFI | yes |
| 20:09.45 | Tekkub | durcyn, if you have an empty tree |
| 20:09.53 | Tekkub | s/tree/spec/ |
| 20:09.56 | durcyn | right, but after it's no longer empty |
| 20:10.17 | Tekkub | hopefully they'll see how great this is and let you buy extra specs for escalating prices |
| 20:10.30 | durcyn | talented also lets you send specs to others that have the addon, which is rather handy |
| 20:10.36 | durcyn | so i don't see it dying |
| 20:10.38 | Tekkub | first free at 10, second 1k at 80, third 2.5k... |
| 20:11.15 | Tekkub | anywho, gotta go get the furry bitch from the airport |
| 20:11.19 | KarlKFI | i dont thinkt he code is built to handle that |
| 20:12.24 | KarlKFI | the button/glyph/talent replacement is backend overrides i think |
| 20:12.53 | durcyn | eh, ghostcrawler already mentioned they'd consider adding a third slot in the future |
| 20:13.14 | KarlKFI | he was being diplomatic |
| 20:13.34 | KarlKFI | they now have to basically double your buttons on the server side i think |
| 20:13.42 | kraft | im hungry for... pancakes! |
| 20:14.30 | durcyn | if disk/database space for pfiles is the only limiting factor, i'm not concerned |
| 20:14.33 | Syzgyn | http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/wotlk/ach/9614#id2336 Holy poop on a stick |
| 20:14.43 | Syzgyn | That's indeed insane |
| 20:23.20 | Zyndrome | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 20:24.19 | kraft | hai zyn :P |
| 20:26.14 | kraft | :( |
| 20:30.47 | Torhal | Tekkub: Talented "replaced" the default talent frame with this huge panel that showed all three trees simultaneously. |
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| 20:40.18 | KarlKFI | which is kinda nice when veiwing templates, but not really that neccissary |
| 20:40.27 | Ullas_ | Anyone have experience parsing itemcache.wdb? |
| 20:41.46 | KarlKFI | "Avast Ye, Admiral!Obtain the Bloodsail Admiral's Hat... and try to get some fresh air every now and then." |
| 20:43.32 | KarlKFI | mmm Insane in the Membrane... i knwo someone who must have that |
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| 21:05.38 | Shadowed | Is there a diff of 3.1 yet? |
| 21:05.48 | Shadowed | Beladona <3 |
| 21:05.55 | jnwhiteh | I need to patch |
| 21:05.58 | jnwhiteh | so i can apidiff |
| 21:06.07 | Uthas | this may be a silly question |
| 21:06.17 | Uthas | but is there a function to return your own player name? |
| 21:06.21 | durcyn | 9614's on wowcompares |
| 21:06.28 | durcyn | Uthas: UnitName("player") |
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| 21:07.42 | Uthas | thanks! |
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| 21:12.07 | Gnarfoz | grrrrr |
| 21:12.21 | Gnarfoz | PTR build keeps crashing reaally often. |
| 21:12.42 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: they are currently doing a stress test |
| 21:12.52 | Gnarfoz | stressing me, obviously |
| 21:13.01 | NeoTron | http://www.clichequest.com/index.php?pos=340 |
| 21:14.16 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 21:14.17 | Gnarfoz | indeed. |
| 21:19.08 | Shadowed | Whelp |
| 21:19.14 | Shadowed | the equipment manager can't handle prismatic gems correctly :( |
| 21:20.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Ullas_ (n=ullas@32.164.118.169) |
| 21:20.52 | Gnarfoz | the CLIENT can't handle RUNNING correctly |
| 21:20.53 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:20.57 | Shadowed | well and that |
| 21:21.13 | Gnarfoz | http://paste.wowace.com/300/ |
| 21:21.14 | Shadowed | but looks like I won't have to abandon ItemSets |
| 21:21.15 | Gnarfoz | yay :p |
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| 21:21.58 | Shadowed | oh thats cool |
| 21:22.06 | Shadowed | really cool in fact |
| 21:22.21 | Shadowed | all of the equipment stuff is done locally, so you can hook and fix it yourself |
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| 21:25.04 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 21:25.06 | nevcairiel | its just an addon |
| 21:25.24 | Shadowed | ugly UI, but at least it's easy to change |
| 21:25.37 | nevcairiel | It does all i need really, no need for an addon anymore |
| 21:25.42 | nevcairiel | maybe a tiny thing to tweak it :) |
| 21:26.15 | Shadowed | The fact that you can't play with sets without having to equip the entire thing is a little annoying thought |
| 21:28.38 | Shadowed | Nicee, it even supports pulling from bank in the ALT equip menu |
| 21:30.23 | bleeter | Dear Blizz, Seriously.. you shouldn't expect people to not cheat at all within your game when you let 9/10 (guesstimated, though I suspect more like 19/20) Wintergrasp Battles be exploited for weeks on end. Bunchaeedjets. Regards, Bleets. |
| 21:33.12 | bleeter | P.S. I'd log in to your forums to report a bug with logging in to forums.... |
| 21:33.53 | Gnarfoz | bleeter: what |
| 21:35.30 | Thunder_Child | please try to ignore the bleeter behind the curtian |
| 21:36.34 | foxlit | exploitawho? |
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| 21:39.43 | Codex| | !seen Hexarobi |
| 21:39.53 | Thunder_Child | try ~ instead of ! |
| 21:39.58 | Codex| | damn 208 days ago |
| 21:40.03 | Codex| | nah i got a response but via whispere |
| 21:40.08 | Codex| | ~seen Hexarobi |
| 21:40.11 | purl | hexarobi <n=Hexarobi@pool-71-123-215-35.dllstx.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 219d 6h 12m 43s ago, saying: 'hehe'. |
| 21:40.33 | Codex| | i guess i can say his addon is not gonna be revived lol |
| 21:40.48 | bleeter | if you don't know the WG exploits, then either (a) you've never played (b) you've not paid attention to what goes on in WG |
| 21:41.07 | foxlit | (c) you're on a blissfully unaware server? :) |
| 21:41.09 | Thunder_Child | like taking a tank through a 2in window? |
| 21:41.22 | foxlit | (d) your standards for calling things an exploit are different? |
| 21:42.11 | bleeter | foxlit: demos can pass straight thru doors. clipping issue. horde do it coz alliance did it last battle. alliance do it 'coz horde did it the battle before that... and so on. |
| 21:42.47 | bleeter | thus people get 'used to' and 'comfortable' doing exploits all for a presumably small clipping fix /sigh |
| 21:43.09 | nevcairiel | isnt it fair again then? |
| 21:43.13 | nevcairiel | if everyone does it.. |
| 21:43.33 | bleeter | as I said, feels like 9/10.. not 10/10 |
| 21:45.44 | Gnarfoz | I guess I'm on a (c) server, then |
| 21:46.21 | Gnarfoz | US realms seem to have some kind of secret daily communiquee with the newest exploits or something |
| 21:46.31 | Gnarfoz | "duh everyone's doing it, how can you not know?" :p |
| 21:46.35 | bleeter | Oceanic :P |
| 21:47.04 | bleeter | and I still think horde are missing one of the WG NPC Vendors.. aaargh |
| 21:47.45 | Gnarfoz | oceanic has it's own billing region these days? |
| 21:48.22 | Thunder_Child | "Aquatic Riding Ray - Summons and dismisses an Aquatic Riding Ray. This is an aquatic mount." i am ammused |
| 21:48.45 | bleeter | on top of water? neato |
| 21:48.46 | Dewin | I seem to recall that awhile back someone was writing an addon updater for wowinterface. What ever happened to that? |
| 21:48.51 | Thunder_Child | "Summons and dismisses a rideable mechanical gnome head. This is a very fast construction. This construction can only be summoned in Outland or Northrend." this one however is disturbing |
| 21:48.53 | Dewin | I'm guessing underwater. |
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| 21:49.30 | durcyn | Thunder_Child: Koopa Copter, didn't you play super mario world? |
| 21:49.42 | Thunder_Child | maybe |
| 21:49.43 | bleeter | either way will be nice... swimming still sux now as much as it sucked day 1 |
| 21:49.49 | Thunder_Child | but i dont remember riding heads |
| 21:49.54 | Thunder_Child | except for the cloud |
| 21:50.01 | Thunder_Child | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/february/mimiron_headmount.jpg |
| 21:50.01 | Dewin | I keep an azure silk belt on me for swimming |
| 21:50.13 | durcyn | TC: the final fight with bowser, he's riding around in a head-shaped helicopter |
| 21:50.14 | JamesJr | Grammar help! In this sentence, "When listening to the childrens thoughts..." should it be childrens' or children's |
| 21:50.33 | durcyn | JamesJr: Childrens', it's plural. |
| 21:50.33 | bleeter | 'thoughts of the children' -> children's |
| 21:50.41 | bleeter | :P |
| 21:50.46 | Dewin | I vote the former. |
| 21:50.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ~seen kd3 |
| 21:50.54 | purl | kd3 is currently on #wowhead (10h 50m 26s) #wowuidev (10h 50m 26s) #wowace (10h 50m 26s) #wowwiki (10h 50m 26s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 3h 22m 9s, last said: 'heh, oops. they broke some of the models up in the argent tournament grounds'. |
| 21:50.57 | JamesJr | i think children's |
| 21:51.00 | durcyn | plural possessive apostrophes belong after the S |
| 21:51.05 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: ping |
| 21:51.14 | Dewin | "children" is a plural, not a group. |
| 21:51.26 | bleeter | wouldn't that depend on context? |
| 21:51.57 | bleeter | eg, south park -> childrens plural |
| 21:52.17 | Gnarfoz | I didn't know english speakers had trouble with apostrophes |
| 21:52.19 | durcyn | children is already the plural of child, not sure what you're getting at |
| 21:52.35 | JamesJr | so is it children's? |
| 21:52.38 | Dewin | childrens' |
| 21:52.51 | JamesJr | Ok, thanks! |
| 21:52.53 | durcyn | s, apostrophe, in that order |
| 21:53.00 | Dewin | though |
| 21:53.06 | Dewin | "Children's Hospital" is spelled that way |
| 21:53.09 | Gnarfoz | children's thoughts. |
| 21:53.18 | bleeter | ^^ |
| 21:53.19 | JamesJr | oh grr we can not get a consensus |
| 21:53.27 | Gnarfoz | plural + genetive possessive 's = children's |
| 21:53.39 | Gnarfoz | in english it's REALLY easy because there are no exceptions xD |
| 21:54.19 | Dewin | According to google, it /is/ children's |
| 21:54.28 | JamesJr | google is not a source |
| 21:54.30 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how you came to the wrong conclusion after correctly stating "children is already the plural", durcyn ;) |
| 21:54.30 | durcyn | gah. fucking english. |
| 21:54.44 | bleeter | no, anglo-saxon |
| 21:54.45 | Dewin | Jamesjr: Google finding "Children's Hospital", "Children's Books", and "Children's Day" |
| 21:54.48 | Dewin | is my source ;) |
| 21:54.57 | bleeter | the plural word was children *before* it was absorbed into english |
| 21:55.03 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: i'm apparently horrible at my native language, too many years of reading video game and sms -speak, i guess. |
| 21:55.10 | Dewin | Language is evolved based on usage, if common usage is children's, then children's is correct. |
| 21:55.23 | JamesJr | Thank you so much!!! Yall rock |
| 21:55.24 | Thunder_Child | tell that to my english teacher |
| 21:55.26 | JamesJr | Children's |
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| 21:55.57 | Dewin | English teachers don't like change. :-p |
| 21:56.13 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: I can see that happening... there's entire internet pages and book series about people raping German left and right, even though they should know better... |
| 21:56.22 | bleeter | it's one of the few exceptions I remember learning in Latin.. though why the Latin teacher was telling me about Anglo-Saxon usage in English... there was probably some course passing reason. |
| 21:56.41 | Gnarfoz | apostrophes in particular... "deppenapostroph" or "apostrophe" are favourites :D |
| 21:57.02 | Gnarfoz | yay |
| 21:57.05 | Gnarfoz | swimming horsey |
| 21:57.11 | Dewin | Of course, I'm one of those people who still uses two spaces after a period. |
| 21:57.15 | Gnarfoz | I made it to the Dalaran underbelly with just 5 crashes :D |
| 21:57.28 | Dewin | Mainly because I GM'd for a MUD that had that requirement for room descriptions. |
| 21:57.35 | Thunder_Child | Dewin, i always use 2 as well |
| 21:57.56 | Gnarfoz | most important change in 3.1: new Wintergrasp buff icon. :p |
| 21:57.56 | Dewin | again? |
| 21:58.03 | Gnarfoz | yep. |
| 21:58.08 | bleeter | does it have shinies |
| 21:58.13 | bleeter | must have shinies or is fail |
| 21:58.27 | Gnarfoz | it's less crowded that the other one |
| 21:58.31 | Dewin | So if this is WoW 3.1, is the next patch WoW for Workgroups? |
| 21:58.36 | Gnarfoz | it's basically a tower, from a low angle, with a halo behind it |
| 21:58.39 | NeoTron | lol |
| 21:58.55 | nevcairiel | WoW 3.11 is far out, though |
| 21:59.01 | nevcairiel | unless you call 3.1.1 |
| 21:59.03 | bleeter | 3.1.1 isn't tho |
| 21:59.09 | Dewin | I called 3.1.1 :) |
| 21:59.11 | bleeter | still gunna be 3-1-1 |
| 21:59.35 | nevcairiel | I usually said three-eleven, because it sounded better, and noone ever told me different, ha :P |
| 21:59.42 | Dewin | My addons break chat in 3.1. :-/ Now I gotta figure out which of the 100+ addons it is. (I had to deal with this same issue in 3.0 :-/) |
| 21:59.53 | durcyn | Dewin: binary search! |
| 22:00.13 | Dewin | durcyn: Not reliable. It's usually caused by multiple addons :) |
| 22:00.27 | nevcairiel | Somehow i doubt that |
| 22:00.29 | nevcairiel | but shrug |
| 22:00.51 | Dewin | nev: Last time I did this, I disabled a ton of addons, finally got the issue to go away, re-enabled everything except the last batch of disables and it promptly came back |
| 22:00.58 | nevcairiel | You could still do a binary search though |
| 22:01.06 | Hjalte | Dewin: Prat or Chatter? |
| 22:01.16 | nevcairiel | you just need to run it X times, where X is the number of addons causing the error :p |
| 22:01.33 | Dewin | Prat, which I just updated. Right now I'm trying the whackamole method. |
| 22:01.59 | Dewin | Prat wasn't the problem in 3.0 though, in fact I first installed Prat as a way to try to /fix/ it. |
| 22:03.01 | bleeter | in keeping with cutting edge UI designs for versions of software having the numbers 31 and 1, I Suggest a full tty interface |
| 22:03.10 | bleeter | *3,1 and 1 |
| 22:03.30 | bleeter | can' |
| 22:03.36 | bleeter | can't be too hard, even nethack has one |
| 22:03.47 | Dewin | <3 nethack |
| 22:04.03 | Dewin | Though I haven't played much since I finally ascended |
| 22:05.28 | Dewin | Oh. Right. I'm going to need a new actionbar mod. :-/ |
| 22:05.50 | nevcairiel | actionbar stuff didnt really change in 3.1 |
| 22:06.07 | Dewin | no, but I've been wanting to drop Macaroon for awhile |
| 22:06.10 | Thunder_Child | doest it have to fore the dual spec? |
| 22:06.19 | Thunder_Child | for* |
| 22:06.27 | nevcairiel | Thunder_Child: no, they just fire one of the "old" events to update all slots |
| 22:06.56 | Dewin | Macaroon doesn't use action IDs so it will fail miserably at that |
| 22:07.06 | Dewin | well, you can tell it to |
| 22:07.08 | Dewin | but I don't. |
| 22:07.18 | nevcairiel | yeah macaroon will not work with the dual spec thing |
| 22:07.33 | Dewin | though you can make profiles for each spec and just save/load |
| 22:07.59 | NeoTron | Dewin: by the way I mostly just dread WoW ME |
| 22:08.03 | Uthas | oooohhhhkay |
| 22:08.07 | Uthas | i'm having a weird problem |
| 22:08.21 | bleeter | NeoTron: you should see WoW Bob |
| 22:08.41 | Dewin | What about WoW Vista will be worse. "You are attempting to heal the tank. Cancel / Allow?" |
| 22:08.53 | NeoTron | bleeter: oh god. new UI eh? |
| 22:08.59 | Dewin | s/What about // |
| 22:09.07 | Uthas | a DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage call is making the difference between a tooltip popping up or not popping up |
| 22:10.35 | bleeter | NeoTron: sure. yellow bouncing dog thing that keeps yapping 'you look like you're trying to quest' |
| 22:10.56 | bleeter | and |
| 22:11.03 | bleeter | 'l2play noob' |
| 22:12.11 | bleeter | the worst bit is you don't get to beat the crap outta the dog |
| 22:12.21 | bleeter | they say NOTABUG but i dunno |
| 22:12.50 | Dewin | Oh. It's deadlybossmods causing my chat issues. Again. |
| 22:14.46 | Uthas | what's the url for the site you can paste code into to get a link to show someone without spamming a chat channel? |
| 22:15.07 | Dewin | Uthas: you can do that with pretty much any item on wowhead |
| 22:15.13 | Kirov | the one in the channel's topic? |
| 22:15.19 | Uthas | ..... |
| 22:15.20 | Uthas | yes |
| 22:15.24 | Uthas | i promise I can read |
| 22:15.27 | Dewin | oh, my brain is elsewhere |
| 22:16.47 | Uthas | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/108929 |
| 22:16.59 | Uthas | when i uncomment that addmessage call, the tooltip pops up |
| 22:17.04 | Uthas | when I don't, it doesn't |
| 22:17.07 | Uthas | i'm a little boggled |
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| 22:24.36 | Gnarfoz | woot? |
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| 22:24.46 | Gnarfoz | you can keybind the "right click an NPC" functionality :OOOOOO |
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| 22:25.58 | End | cool |
| 22:25.58 | Kirov | Gnarfoz - on PTR? |
| 22:26.01 | End | about time |
| 22:26.08 | Kirov | Is it your current target? |
| 22:26.16 | Kirov | (or mouseover) |
| 22:26.20 | Gnarfoz | both, separately |
| 22:26.28 | Gnarfoz | *can bind both seperately |
| 22:26.31 | Gnarfoz | omg spelling |
| 22:26.35 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 22:26.46 | nevcairiel | InteractUnit("target") or something similar is the API |
| 22:27.10 | Kirov | about damn time... now does it loot is the question ... |
| 22:27.10 | Gnarfoz | cool :> |
| 22:27.19 | Gnarfoz | I was thinking about that, right now :p |
| 22:27.28 | Gnarfoz | gonna kill me something |
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| 22:27.34 | Gnarfoz | if I can GET there without crashing. |
| 22:28.02 | nevcairiel | just fall out of dalaran |
| 22:28.05 | Kirov | heh "You have been killed by Rabbit" |
| 22:28.34 | Kirov | Well, rabbits don't attack, but it would be possible to get killed by a rat |
| 22:29.39 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 22:29.40 | Gnarfoz | it loots! |
| 22:29.41 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:29.45 | Gnarfoz | mouseover looting ftw :D |
| 22:29.56 | Gnarfoz | awesomeness |
| 22:30.02 | Kirov | unprotected? |
| 22:30.03 | Codex| | anyone every gonna res wowchess? :P |
| 22:30.36 | nevcairiel | I get all my titles reapplied on zoning, kinda fun :P |
| 22:30.37 | Gnarfoz | Kirov: no idea, this is default UI. how can I check? |
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| 22:31.20 | nevcairiel | try /script InteractUnit("target") |
| 22:32.28 | Gnarfoz | a macro script has been blocked etc |
| 22:33.19 | nevcairiel | talent preview = ftw |
| 22:33.25 | nevcairiel | even in the worst lag, you can spec :) |
| 22:33.37 | nevcairiel | i hated it when you spam a multi-rank talent and it wouldnt go up! |
| 22:33.51 | Gnarfoz | that's what Talented was there for ;p |
| 22:33.51 | krka | that's what she said |
| 22:34.09 | Gnarfoz | oh wait no, you just clicked a saved preset and let it do its thang |
| 22:34.13 | Gnarfoz | :p |
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| 22:34.34 | Gnarfoz | I'm so gonna get used to starting fights with Exorcism now |
| 22:34.35 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 22:34.51 | nevcairiel | I never respeced often enough to install a freaking addon for that .) |
| 22:37.01 | Gnarfoz | it's just way easier to use :p |
| 22:37.48 | nevcairiel | man now it crashed in the middle of my spec |
| 22:39.17 | End | hm, looks like they might be revamping Noble Garden |
| 22:41.11 | Lopeppeppy | Hippity hoppity. |
| 22:41.36 | mikma | HIP HOP ABS! |
| 22:41.58 | Lopeppeppy | ... you first. |
| 22:42.49 | nevcairiel | End: judging from the new achievements, they did already |
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| 22:43.18 | End | you mean, it's already in game, or on the PTR? |
| 22:43.37 | End | if you mean on the PTR, that's what I meant |
| 22:44.00 | nevcairiel | yeah i mean PTR too |
| 22:44.22 | Gnarfoz | I wish I had detached my authenticator and set my password to "a" before transferring to ptr |
| 22:44.49 | End | doesn't look like they added it to the meta yet though |
| 22:44.56 | End | dunno if they will or not |
| 22:44.57 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:45.10 | nevcairiel | get out of northrend |
| 22:45.15 | nevcairiel | no crash in moonglade |
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| 22:45.37 | mikma | but you cant detach the authenticator? |
| 22:45.47 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 22:45.49 | Gnarfoz | of course you can |
| 22:46.38 | mikma | dunno why i remember it being a huge operation |
| 22:46.53 | nevcairiel | now its official, dual-spec switching will not need a scribe reagent anymore, you can just do it anywhere |
| 22:46.56 | nevcairiel | blue said so! |
| 22:48.30 | Gnarfoz | linky linky. |
| 22:48.49 | nevcairiel | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/15198918444-maybe-dual-spec-was-a-bad-idea.html |
| 22:48.51 | nevcairiel | second post |
| 22:49.06 | nevcairiel | somewhat down he confirms it again |
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| 22:55.51 | ronghail | I need 5 specs for my druid. pvp moonkin and tree, pve moonk, tree, bear. |
| 22:56.34 | ronghail | er, 6. pvp cat too |
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| 23:12.02 | Thunder_Child | what tee fuck......the newest iteration of COMODO firewall blocks programs from accessing the kernal |
| 23:12.13 | Thunder_Child | kernel* |
| 23:14.40 | MoonWolf | wait, what ? |
| 23:15.04 | Thunder_Child | or maybe it plus NOD32 |
| 23:15.20 | Thunder_Child | but my computer gets fucked |
| 23:15.39 | Thunder_Child | and apps can not launch |
| 23:15.45 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* brb |
| 23:20.24 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: disregard that ping. But if you ever need to install the stock nvidia drivers on fedora, turns out that it is stupidly easy without the repo. |
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| 23:20.52 | Industrial | Anyone here have OneSwarm isntalled? |
| 23:22.22 | NightHawkTheSane | argh, character copy queue needs to not be full |
| 23:28.49 | Lunessa | Sheeple are sheeple. |
| 23:30.28 | Dewin | Nighthawkthesane: I agree, I'm waiting for my toons to finish copying |
| 23:32.04 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeple sucks |
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| 23:39.33 | anotherdude | sup all? |
| 23:41.29 | kraft | nm :) |
| 23:41.55 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: You can gripe, but they're actually heading in the direction of using a whitelist, which is the only thing that's goign to change the arms race between twits who don't update and criminals who want to steal yer credit card numbers |
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| 23:44.00 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Teaching MS Word sucks. Always. Especially since 3/4 of the class was there for a feature not on the agenda - a feature which has its own 3 hour class. |
| 23:44.29 | Lopeppeppy | ...doofusi. |
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| 23:44.52 | Lopeppeppy | I'm starting my computer reformat Lunessa! I'll tear my hair out and be bald with you. |
| 23:45.03 | Lunessa | No, I prefer you with your red, red hair. |
| 23:45.11 | Dagmar | You couldn't get that malware out? |
| 23:46.19 | Lopeppeppy | Dagmar, I did, but the system had issues even before that. Time for a fresh start. |
| 23:46.27 | Dagmar | Ouch |
| 23:46.49 | Dagmar | Looks liek the 3.1 patch is a little rougher than the previous ones |
| 23:51.00 | Dagmar | So far, error #132 is winning |
| 23:52.31 | kraft | is there a clever way to sync tables between addons that have collected info at different times, without creating a new table for every different session in which the data is collected? |
| 23:54.13 | Syzgyn | Woo, transfer went through |
| 23:54.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Larana (n=Anaral@WoWUIDev/Norganna/QA-Manager/Anaral) |
| 23:56.03 | Lunessa | QQ... Queue is full. |
| 23:56.12 | Syzgyn | Q_Q |
| 23:56.54 | Dagmar | Don't worry, just pretend you're hearing the critical error sound and type "I was just running around Ironforge" every 3-4 minutes and you'll be fine. |
| 23:57.30 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar, wtf are you talking about? |
| 23:57.37 | Syzgyn | Lol, of course northrend is down |
| 23:57.53 | Dagmar | The PTR is phenomenally crashy, so whether or not the queue is full doesn't much matter. |
| 23:58.00 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar, (of your previous comment to me) |
| 23:58.13 | Cidan | You know what's awesome? |
| 23:58.27 | Dagmar | Oh, the change to the firewall |
| 23:58.42 | Cidan | Sleeping with someone, then figuring out you were used for your money and sex, then dropped over google talk. |
| 23:58.45 | Cidan | That = win. |
| 23:58.48 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar, i'm not talking about external programs, iam talking about installed programs |
| 23:58.52 | Thunder_Child | i am* |
| 23:58.53 | Cidan | You women are the fucking bane of man. |
| 23:59.05 | Dagmar | Yeah it's called "doesn't work right yet" |
| 23:59.24 | *** join/#wowuidev xalth (i=51be9c8e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d8f3e590d3ac3cd1) |
| 23:59.38 | Lopeppeppy | ... cidan, she didn't!? |
| 23:59.41 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar, no that shit should never have been released |
| 23:59.46 | Cidan | Oh, she did. |
| 23:59.48 | Thunder_Child | a complete shutdown of your system? |
| 23:59.48 | Cidan | She did. |
| 23:59.49 | Thunder_Child | bs |
| 23:59.53 | Syzgyn | Ouch man |
