| 00:00.51 | Movix | is it possibleit's a frame taht has no parent ? |
| 00:01.28 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 00:03.03 | foxlit | I'd be surprised if that'd stop dtframestack from working |
| 00:04.09 | Movix | dtframestack continue working, it shows the normal stack a this position, but not the frame blocking the mouse input on worldframe |
| 00:05.17 | Movix | i don't know how dtframestack works i supposed it iterates all child frames from worldframe and that's why i guessed it has to be a not parented frame |
| 00:08.09 | Tem | dtframestack finds frames using EnumerateFrames |
| 00:08.17 | Tem | the frame not having a parent is irrelevant |
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| 00:11.54 | |pez| | Ooohoh, I remember o a conversation in here about Ben & Jerry's icecream a while back |
| 00:11.59 | |pez| | I just tasted one of those |
| 00:12.03 | |pez| | Cookie dough |
| 00:12.06 | |pez| | it was AWESOME! |
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| 00:14.22 | Adys | Olison: what was he saying? |
| 00:15.07 | Olison | Wait |
| 00:15.18 | Adys | the guy from the stone keeper shards post |
| 00:15.42 | Olison | Posting some starved child in africa |
| 00:15.53 | Adys | oh |
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| 00:21.44 | foxlit | http://catmas.com/images/2006/12/where-is-your-god-now.jpg << teehee |
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| 00:26.19 | Adys | hahah oh god |
| 00:26.21 | Adys | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/108-Webcomics |
| 00:26.23 | Adys | had never seen that one |
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| 00:40.45 | Elengil | ok, anyone know about addon interaction? |
| 00:43.06 | foxlit | someone must. |
| 00:45.14 | Elengil | suffice to say, i took a basic addon, modded it for use with a slightly different setup, and have it working nicely |
| 00:45.35 | Elengil | BUT, i want to see if i can weave in another "optional" addon, to make it more useful |
| 00:46.08 | Kirov | ok |
| 00:46.16 | Kirov | care to elaborate? |
| 00:46.50 | foxlit | I'm fine with your level of abstraction, but would suggest phrasing something in question form. |
| 00:46.55 | Elengil | know of Broker_HerbTraining? |
| 00:47.11 | Kirov | nope |
| 00:47.48 | Elengil | its supposed to give you a guideline of sorts, as to which herbs you should be gathering to gain skill ups |
| 00:48.00 | Elengil | i modded it to work with Alchemy (and the recipes) |
| 00:48.15 | Elengil | using data i pulled from wowhead |
| 00:48.38 | Kirov | k |
| 00:48.53 | Elengil | that works all fine and dandy so far |
| 00:49.27 | Elengil | im hoping to pull in data from recipeknown, to help make that data more useful |
| 00:49.51 | Elengil | since right now, it just lists every recipe in your training range |
| 00:50.52 | foxlit | (at this point, it appears that your addon's functionality can be duplicated by opening the Alchemy window and looking for orange/yellow recipes, but that's not a very interesting problem) |
| 00:51.19 | Elengil | it also only shows recipes you know |
| 00:51.32 | Elengil | whereas. this will show ones you dont |
| 00:52.38 | foxlit | (not a very interesting problem addressed) |
| 00:52.59 | foxlit | But did you actually have a question? :) |
| 00:53.24 | Elengil | well, i want to pull in data from the recipeknown addon |
| 00:53.37 | Elengil | so that this one can darken the recipes you dont know |
| 00:53.57 | foxlit | Is the question "How do I do that?" |
| 00:54.02 | Elengil | yeah |
| 00:54.27 | foxlit | I'm going to object on two very theoretical reasons: |
| 00:55.05 | foxlit | (a) There's little chance that someone would help you deal with another addon's API, unless that addon happens to be their own. You're better off reading the code or sending a PM to the author. |
| 00:55.51 | foxlit | (b) Judging by the screenshots of RecipeKnown, it simply scans the item tooltips for the "Already known" line, which might pose a problem if you're not looking at actual items. |
| 00:56.17 | foxlit | In fact, strike (b). I should read the description text. |
| 00:56.28 | Elengil | from what ive seen, it pulls "itemname" |
| 00:56.57 | Elengil | and theres a function in it that would prolly work, if only i knew how to access it from outside the original addon |
| 00:57.35 | Elengil | function RecipeKnown_GetTooltipInfo(itemName) |
| 00:57.45 | Elengil | return Msg2, knowncount, willknow, canknow; |
| 00:57.57 | foxlit | that would appear to be a global. |
| 00:58.00 | Elengil | of which i would use knowcount |
| 00:58.13 | foxlit | So just call it like you would any other function? :) |
| 00:58.22 | Elengil | tried it, and no luck |
| 00:59.03 | foxlit | quantify "no luck" |
| 00:59.09 | Elengil | ie, failure |
| 00:59.23 | Elengil | causes the addon to not work at all |
| 00:59.39 | foxlit | The manner in which you fail is more important than the act of failing. |
| 01:00.26 | Elengil | im starting to think that talking with the author of recipeknown might prove more useful |
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| 01:01.20 | Arrowmaster | just use periodictable instead |
| 01:02.50 | Elengil | will that tell me if the player knows the particular recipe? |
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| 01:03.52 | Arrowmaster | no you tell the player to open their tradeskill window and scan it yourself |
| 01:04.05 | |Jelly| | ... I knew something was missing from my life. |
| 01:04.28 | foxlit | My impression is that we're looking for a trivial solution rather than a non-trivial one. |
| 01:04.28 | Elengil | i was going to make it darken the recipes the player doesnt know |
| 01:04.29 | Thunder_Child | a life? |
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| 01:05.01 | Uthas | hmmmm |
| 01:05.02 | |Jelly| | No, if something missing FROM my life, I would have to already have a life. I was missing IRC cause Firefox restarted. |
| 01:05.03 | Uthas | ok |
| 01:05.04 | Arrowmaster | scanning tradeskills is rather trivial |
| 01:05.35 | foxlit | not quite find/replace trivial. |
| 01:05.42 | Uthas | so, checking out http://www.wowwiki.com/UIOBJECT_GameTooltip, creating my own tooltip is pretty simple |
| 01:06.05 | Elengil | once i get this done, ill prolly make the same for the other professions |
| 01:06.15 | Uthas | my difficulty is in positioning |
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| 01:06.37 | Uthas | getting the positions I want it at seems easy |
| 01:07.06 | Arrowmaster | Uthas: is there a reason you are creating your own tooltip instead of just using GameTooltip? |
| 01:07.37 | Uthas | Yeah, I want to display dynamic information that could possibly be extensive |
| 01:07.45 | Uthas | but won't always be there |
| 01:07.52 | Uthas | so I don't want to add it to the GameTooltip |
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| 01:08.16 | Arrowmaster | oh so you arent doing a mouseover tooltip but just a frame that will always be shown? |
| 01:08.20 | Uthas | i'm trying to figure out how to anchor a seperate frame to the GameTootip |
| 01:08.30 | Uthas | no, it's a mouseover tooltip |
| 01:08.31 | Arrowmaster | :setpoint |
| 01:08.42 | Uthas | just won't always be there, only in applicable situations |
| 01:09.11 | Uthas | did you see my explanation of what I'm trying to do with the mod earlier? |
| 01:09.43 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 01:10.01 | Uthas | so |
| 01:10.07 | Uthas | players enter a "wishlist" of items |
| 01:10.18 | Uthas | info is exchanged on a hidden channel |
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| 01:10.41 | Uthas | when a player mouses over an item on someone's wishlist, a tooltip pops up showing the names of the players who have wishlisted the item |
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| 01:11.35 | Uthas | I don't want to add it to the Gametooltip because I don't want to add 15 of the 25 people in a raid to the tooltip when someone mouses over Betrayer of Humanity |
| 01:12.33 | Uthas | also, because my tooltip is already cluttered |
| 01:13.07 | Kirov | Uthas - You could look at EquipCompare |
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| 01:13.37 | Arrowmaster | doubt equipcompare will help much |
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| 01:14.25 | Uthas | mods like Equipcompare is actually why I'm popping up a different tooltip |
| 01:14.36 | Uthas | everyone is running a mod like that these days, so the Gametooltip is full |
| 01:15.05 | Uthas | but it looks like setpoint is exactly what I need, just attaches a frame to another frame, perfect |
| 01:15.08 | Arrowmaster | and some people will hate you for that because they want that info |
| 01:15.29 | Uthas | Oh, I'm not getting rid of any info |
| 01:15.52 | Uthas | just popping mine up in a different spot so it's easier to read the stuff in the GameTooltip and ignore mine if you want |
| 01:16.07 | alestane | kd3: ping for a quick Linux question. |
| 01:16.32 | Adys | I killed kd3 |
| 01:16.36 | Adys | I am so sorry |
| 01:17.01 | alestane | Then you could have at least hidden his body instead of leaving it in the channel. |
| 01:17.22 | Adys | its well hidden beneath Kalroth |
| 01:17.25 | Adys | he likes that, too |
| 01:17.41 | Adys | what do you need to know alestane ? |
| 01:17.57 | tlund | who is this Adamar, and why is he fucking up tickets on curseforge? :( |
| 01:18.00 | alestane | Doesn't actually have to be him, I'm just trying to install FF3 and I'm unclear as to what tools to use, or whether I should just drop it into /usr/lib. |
| 01:18.14 | Adys | which distro? |
| 01:18.27 | alestane | The site advises me to use a package manager according to my distribution's documentation. |
| 01:18.31 | alestane | Fedora 8. |
| 01:18.55 | Arrowmaster | i advise you to use a package manager according to your distribution's documentation |
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| 01:19.07 | Adys | somewhere in the administration menu, "Install new programs" or something similar |
| 01:19.14 | Adys | been a while since i used fedora |
| 01:19.16 | Thunder_Child | Shirik! |
| 01:19.27 | Shirik | no |
| 01:19.27 | Adys | actually scratch that, its been only a month but i used it for 10 mins and installed something else |
| 01:19.36 | alestane | So I do have rpm/yum/pirut installed, but I'm not sure how much good that does me when there doesn't appear to be a package description in the archive. No .rpm file or anything. |
| 01:19.54 | Adys | which archive? |
| 01:20.19 | Thunder_Child | yes Shirik |
| 01:20.46 | alestane | firefox-3.0.6.tar.bz2 |
| 01:21.14 | Adys | yum fetches the rpm on fedora-maintained repositories |
| 01:21.16 | alestane | The installations I've done up till now have been from repositories. |
| 01:21.17 | Adys | you dont have to dl anything |
| 01:21.37 | alestane | The repositories I have preinstalled only list FF2. |
| 01:21.46 | sacarasc | firefox-3.0.6.tar.bz2 sounds like a source tarball |
| 01:21.48 | Adys | nngh |
| 01:22.14 | Arrowmaster | upgrade fedora |
| 01:22.22 | Adys | dont |
| 01:22.23 | Arrowmaster | 9 has ff3 |
| 01:22.24 | alestane | sacarasc: No, this appears to contain binaries. |
| 01:22.40 | Adys | yeah mozilla provides linux binaries too |
| 01:23.31 | Adys | you should have a repo source manager somewhere in admin |
| 01:23.52 | Adys | enable unstable/beta/pre-release/whatever_they_call_it repos |
| 01:24.20 | alestane | It's pirut, it's the last option in the Applications menu. |
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| 01:25.16 | alestane | It's basically a GUI for yum. |
| 01:25.44 | Adys | enable those repos, refresh and you likely have ff3 somewhere there |
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| 01:28.09 | Arrowmaster | There are 496 newly obsolete packages. |
| 01:28.11 | Arrowmaster | not good |
| 01:28.20 | Arrowmaster | Current status: 5 updates [+5], 61 new [+61]. |
| 01:28.22 | Arrowmaster | little better |
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| 01:30.20 | alestane | And, of course, there's always Google. |
| 01:31.45 | Adys | seriously |
| 01:32.07 | Adys | theres two awesome things on my computer right now |
| 01:32.11 | Adys | vlc |
| 01:32.25 | Adys | and a vlc window playing an iso dvd image |
| 01:32.50 | Arrowmaster | vlc is far from awesome |
| 01:33.00 | Adys | it is |
| 01:33.02 | alestane | I was going to ask if your girlfriend wanted some attention so she sat on your computer, but that's reasonably cool. |
| 01:33.25 | haste | vlc is *sadface* |
| 01:33.30 | Adys | my last girlfriend sat on my computer once |
| 01:33.34 | haste | mplayer/mpc is _far_ superior |
| 01:33.40 | Adys | thats why I had to leave france, her parents werent happy |
| 01:34.40 | Adys | why's mplayer superior anyway? |
| 01:34.51 | Adys | or was that ironic |
| 01:35.14 | haste | my experience with it is vastly better :p |
| 01:35.29 | Adys | sounds like you like it because you use it |
| 01:35.33 | Adys | and not the other way |
| 01:35.37 | Adys | gimme examples |
| 01:35.46 | Arrowmaster | no he uses it because its superior |
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| 01:36.06 | Shirik | I'm having trouble remembering the name of that really tiny SQL database that people integrate into applications a lot |
| 01:36.08 | haste | VLCs subtitle support is horrible, and I have issues playing 1080p with it |
| 01:36.08 | Adys | in what, the amount of characters in the name? |
| 01:36.10 | Shirik | anybodyk now what I'm talking about? |
| 01:36.11 | alestane | Someone had a link to a repo file containing FF3. |
| 01:36.12 | Adys | sqlite |
| 01:36.18 | Shirik | thanks Adys |
| 01:36.36 | Shirik | hybgtn,k/;' |
| 01:36.39 | Shirik | sorry |
| 01:36.45 | Adys | doesnt look like valid sql syntax to me |
| 01:36.54 | Shirik | no, it's perl |
| 01:36.58 | Adys | ah ok |
| 01:37.02 | Arrowmaster | thats perl? |
| 01:37.11 | Shirik | :P |
| 01:37.25 | Adys | haste: I have no issue playing 1080p with vlc, and never had problems with subtitles when i used them |
| 01:37.31 | Adys | funny thing, relativity |
| 01:37.48 | haste | then you don't ues ASS subtitles |
| 01:37.52 | haste | and your computer isn't 5 years old Yp |
| 01:38.27 | Adys | my computer isnt 5 year old and I have no interest in ASS nop |
| 01:39.25 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Arrowmaster Shirik |
| 01:39.26 | infobot | Arrowmaster Shirik, you Fail! |
| 01:39.34 | Adys | you cited a possible performance issue and support lacking for one kind of subtitle |
| 01:39.36 | Thunder_Child | w...t....f |
| 01:39.42 | Adys | hi infobot ! |
| 01:39.44 | Thunder_Child | ~ |
| 01:39.46 | Thunder_Child | ~~ |
| 01:39.47 | infobot | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 01:39.47 | Adys | glad to see ya |
| 01:39.52 | Thunder_Child | bah |
| 01:39.57 | Arrowmaster | vlc also cant decode properly |
| 01:39.58 | Adys | ~emulate purl |
| 01:39.59 | infobot | ACTION tries to look like herself. |
| 01:40.12 | Adys | ~emulate Shirik |
| 01:40.13 | infobot | I'll whine about anything |
| 01:40.23 | Thunder_Child | ~shirik |
| 01:40.24 | infobot | methinks shirik is "If I had to sum up my life, I'd have to say, the one thing I hate doing is nothing." --Shirik |
| 01:40.29 | Adys | decode properly what? |
| 01:40.41 | Arrowmaster | anything |
| 01:40.48 | Adys | uh |
| 01:40.53 | Adys | it uses gstreamer |
| 01:40.55 | haste | Adys: we could add codecs into all this, and mplayer's mencoder |
| 01:40.57 | Adys | and so does mplayer |
| 01:40.58 | haste | but that's outside it all imo |
| 01:41.02 | haste | what? |
| 01:41.10 | haste | mplayer has its own internal codecs for everything |
| 01:41.17 | haste | or uses ffmpeg or so |
| 01:41.24 | Thunder_Child | so does vlc iirc |
| 01:41.25 | haste | or the lib I can't remember the name of |
| 01:41.33 | Arrowmaster | vlc is all internal |
| 01:41.44 | haste | mplayer is horrible at doing releases tho' |
| 01:41.51 | haste | they basically tell you do checkout trunk |
| 01:41.56 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?s=0ae7f04eb2ef3f7228927c9e6ddff85a&p=1910683&postcount=80 |
| 01:41.56 | Adys | vlc uses gstreamer and internal stuff |
| 01:42.22 | Adys | thats bs |
| 01:42.34 | Adys | i got a collection of MKVs i can play just fine |
| 01:43.05 | Arrowmaster | depends on the files, vlc is very flaky |
| 01:43.45 | Adys | 31 files, i must have been lucky :/ |
| 01:44.07 | Adys | anyway if you use windows might aswell use gom player |
| 01:44.21 | Arrowmaster | if you use windows your best off using mpc |
| 01:44.37 | Adys | the heck is that? |
| 01:44.43 | haste | MPC :3 |
| 01:44.44 | Arrowmaster | media player classic |
| 01:44.53 | haste | CCCP comes to mind |
| 01:45.02 | haste | I still use mplayer on windows tho' :p |
| 01:45.05 | Adys | http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/ that? |
| 01:45.18 | Arrowmaster | thats an old version of it |
| 01:45.27 | Arrowmaster | its been resurected as mpc-hc |
| 01:45.43 | Arrowmaster | but yeah CCCP is the best for windows playback |
| 01:45.46 | Uthas | anyone know what handler is called when the GameTooltip disappears? |
| 01:45.57 | Uthas | I'm trying to hook the right one to hide my tooltip |
| 01:46.06 | Uthas | doesn't appear to be OnHide |
| 01:47.06 | alestane | Right now, :HookScript doesn' |
| 01:47.09 | alestane | t...doesn' |
| 01:47.18 | Thunder_Child | fail |
| 01:47.25 | alestane | ...doesn't do anything if the frame doesn't have a script set. |
| 01:47.28 | Adys | that said |
| 01:47.34 | Adys | does mplayer play bink files? |
| 01:47.46 | alestane | I'm not sure if GameTooltip has a default <OnHide> script or not. |
| 01:47.55 | Arrowmaster | perty sure it does Adys |
| 01:48.07 | Uthas | well, i think it does |
| 01:48.16 | Uthas | because the problem with OnHide is that my tooltip never appears |
| 01:48.34 | Uthas | I have OnTooltipSetItem hooked |
| 01:48.40 | Uthas | and my tooltip appears just fine |
| 01:48.49 | Uthas | it just doesn't hide when the GameTooltip goes away |
| 01:48.50 | Adys | the one thing that sucks the most with vlc |
| 01:48.51 | Adys | is its icon |
| 01:49.06 | Uthas | when I hook OnHide |
| 01:49.06 | Kirov | I have my tooltips parented to the GameTooltip. |
| 01:49.18 | Uthas | This is also parented to GameTooltip |
| 01:49.22 | alestane | Uthas: /run print(GameTooltip:GetScript("OnHide")) |
| 01:49.41 | Kirov | With an OnUpdate script that checks if the gametooltip is shown or not |
| 01:49.55 | Uthas | function reference |
| 01:50.01 | alestane | Okay. |
| 01:50.14 | Uthas | that seems like it would be bad for framerate Kirov |
| 01:50.47 | alestane | But if you're showing your frame in response to another frame being hidden, and it's parented to that other frame, you won't see it, because it inherits its parent's visibility. |
| 01:50.50 | Kirov | If you had 10000 frames all doing that, sure |
| 01:51.41 | Uthas | no, i'm showing my frame in response to another frame throwing its OnTooltipSetItem event |
| 01:51.53 | Uthas | I'm trying to hide it on the OnHide of it's parent |
| 01:52.28 | Uthas | but when I hook the OnHide, the frame never shows up at all |
| 01:52.39 | alestane | The frame you're hooking? |
| 01:52.54 | Uthas | sorry, MY frame never shows up |
| 01:53.05 | Uthas | i'm only ever hooking it's parent frame, the GameTooltip |
| 01:53.27 | Uthas | when GameTooltip throws OnTooltipSetItem, my frame shows up, that works fine |
| 01:53.37 | Uthas | trying to get it to go away again |
| 01:53.41 | Uthas | I may have to use Kirov's method |
| 01:53.59 | Uthas | since i'm not sure how the GameTooltip hides itself |
| 01:54.06 | alestane | You only want your frame to appear when the main tooltip is set to an item? |
| 01:54.10 | Uthas | yep |
| 01:54.57 | alestane | Then what you may want to do is hide your frame whenever the tooltip is set to anything other than an item. |
| 01:55.45 | Uthas | there's a lot of the time when the tooltip isn't set to anything |
| 01:55.52 | Uthas | don't want to leave my frame hanging around |
| 01:56.13 | alestane | Is there a script that will fire when the tooltip is cleared? |
| 01:56.26 | Arrowmaster | try hiding it on OnTooltipClear |
| 01:57.03 | alestane | Yes, there's <OnTooltipCleared>. |
| 01:57.27 | Uthas | i was just trying that, and it told me GameTooltip didn't have that script |
| 01:57.31 | Uthas | i'll check my spelling |
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| 01:58.19 | Arrowmaster | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/scripts/OnTooltipCleared |
| 01:59.05 | Uthas | heh, extra whitespace :op |
| 01:59.49 | Uthas | ok |
| 01:59.50 | Uthas | no good |
| 02:00.00 | Uthas | my frame doesn't show up at all when i hook that handler |
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| 02:03.22 | Shirik | rawr |
| 02:03.35 | Seerah | oh sure - *now* |
| 02:03.43 | Seerah | you ignored me earlier :P |
| 02:03.45 | Shirik | I was busy! |
| 02:03.52 | Seerah | mmhmmm |
| 02:03.55 | Shirik | :( |
| 02:03.58 | Seerah | :) |
| 02:04.03 | Cairenn | A college class was told they had to write a short story in as few words as possible. The instructions were: The short story had to contain the following three things: (1) Religion; (2) Sexuality; and (3) Mystery. Below is the only A+ short story in the entire class. |
| 02:04.03 | Cairenn | "Good God, I'm pregnant; I wonder who did it." |
| 02:05.39 | Uthas | Hemmingway's story in 6 words: "For sale: baby shoes. Never worn." |
| 02:06.41 | Shirik | >< |
| 02:06.43 | Shirik | see what you did |
| 02:06.49 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:06.49 | Shirik | you kicked Zoot out of the channel |
| 02:06.51 | ScytheBlade1 | WHERE IS PURL |
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| 02:07.55 | Gnarfoz | shore leave |
| 02:09.11 | Uthas | hmmm...tried the OnUpdate method Kirov |
| 02:09.12 | Uthas | no luck |
| 02:21.09 | Uthas | sweet, got it |
| 02:21.29 | Uthas | just hooked OnHide of the GameTooltip and called SetOwner again on my tooltip |
| 02:21.36 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|: stab |
| 02:21.43 | |Jelly| | ily |
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| 02:26.58 | alestane | ~ily |
| 02:27.10 | End | ~billy |
| 02:27.11 | infobot | it has been said that billy is you |
| 02:27.19 | End | HI INFOBOT |
| 02:27.23 | Kirov | Uthas - OnHide is working for you now? |
| 02:27.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ~whalenuke Shirik |
| 02:27.30 | infobot | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Shirik with his mind powers. |
| 02:27.32 | ScytheBlade1 | YES |
| 02:27.59 | Kyahx | Hulu commercial is fantastic...Alec Baldwin is fantastic. |
| 02:28.52 | Kirov | There's a new on with Eliza Dushku |
| 02:28.54 | haste | ~fantastic |
| 02:29.01 | haste | :( |
| 02:29.10 | Kyahx | ha |
| 02:32.03 | Elengil | so, anyone looked into the idea of an irc addon for WoW? |
| 02:32.14 | End | er |
| 02:32.36 | End | WoW's lua environment is sandboxed |
| 02:32.46 | Thunder_Child | ~fail haste |
| 02:32.47 | infobot | haste, you Fail! |
| 02:32.54 | haste | :( |
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| 02:35.00 | Hirsute | Elengil: Not possible |
| 02:35.25 | Elengil | so its not possible to force a write of SVs? |
| 02:35.37 | Hirsute | Only with a ui reload |
| 02:35.41 | Hirsute | or logout |
| 02:35.49 | Elengil | hmm |
| 02:35.50 | Kirov | And on reload it's delayed |
| 02:36.21 | Elengil | how long? |
| 02:37.21 | Kirov | a couple of seconds |
| 02:37.32 | Elengil | hmm |
| 02:37.56 | Elengil | doing a reload every 10 secs or so, when you arent "active" would be quite doable |
| 02:38.21 | Kirov | doable as in infuriating? |
| 02:38.32 | Elengil | infuriating how? |
| 02:39.24 | haste | reload ui every 10 sec? |
| 02:39.34 | haste | I think this computer uses 30 sec on a reload |
| 02:39.48 | haste | with almost no add-ons (great computer is great etc) |
| 02:39.52 | End | I can bring it down to about 2 or 3 seconds for reload |
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| 02:39.58 | End | but addons brings it up to 20 or so seconds |
| 02:40.18 | Elengil | ahh, i see |
| 02:40.18 | End | even with 2 or 3 seconds reload, I wouldn't want to do it |
| 02:40.36 | Elengil | hmm, gotta be a way... |
| 02:40.41 | kd3 | alestane, you still need linux help? |
| 02:40.44 | haste | my own computer is about that speed with the same add-ons End |
| 02:41.12 | Hirsute | It takes me close to a minute to reload. |
| 02:41.18 | Elengil | ok, prolly stupid, but wonder if a memory modifier could do it... |
| 02:41.26 | Hirsute | Elengil: No way without pissing Blizz off. |
| 02:41.28 | End | technically yes |
| 02:41.36 | Hirsute | But that'll also get you banned |
| 02:41.38 | End | but you're in deep trouble with blizzard if you do that |
| 02:41.40 | Elengil | well, for private servers, they can piss off |
| 02:41.50 | Hirsute | So can those who play on private servers |
| 02:41.50 | haste | for a private server - you can piss off :) |
| 02:41.58 | kd3 | rofl... each time I look the queue's longer |
| 02:42.04 | kd3 | 15 days now |
| 02:42.04 | End | 14 days now? |
| 02:42.07 | End | oh, 15! |
| 02:43.23 | Elengil | hmm, bet blizzard could push it in, natively, if they wanted |
| 02:43.31 | Elengil | but they wont, cause they are fags |
| 02:43.44 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 02:43.54 | Gnarfoz | soul version of Metallica's The Unforgiven |
| 02:43.56 | Elengil | only reason they made WoW was for the money |
| 02:44.28 | Kirov | Elengil - and? |
| 02:45.28 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: always option C (cancel!) |
| 02:45.28 | Kirov | Elengil - Part of making money is keeping the majority of their user base happy. To that end they've done a lot to try and even the playing field for all players. |
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| 02:48.23 | Kirov | Their methodology is often times heavy handed and annoying when you have some perfectly valid, non game breaking idea for using something like real i/o in wow (IRC chat, item information, quest helping, tracking DKP changes, etc). But considering it'll probably be used for nefarious reasons just as readily, they just don't allow it. |
| 02:49.14 | Gnarfoz | users can't be trusted. |
| 02:49.15 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 02:49.38 | kd3 | any sysadmin job would be a hell of a lot easier if it wasn't for the damned users |
| 02:49.52 | Kirov | As a minor aside, personally I'm just glad they still let you modify the UI as I think they'd originally planned on removing that with 2.0 until Iriel and Alastane said "please, we'll do all the work" |
| 02:49.53 | End | then there wouldn't be any job :P |
| 02:50.06 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: and they'd also be unemployed. *sigh* |
| 02:50.21 | ScytheBlade1 | IF ONLY |
| 02:51.34 | kd3 | random question, what's the new honor cap? |
| 02:51.38 | End | new? |
| 02:51.42 | End | it's still 75k isn't it? |
| 02:51.43 | Gnarfoz | 75k, still |
| 02:51.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 02:51.48 | ScytheBlade1 | arena was upped |
| 02:51.51 | ScytheBlade1 | honor remains constant |
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| 02:51.58 | End | unless you're talking about 3.1, it's definitely 75k |
| 02:51.58 | Gnarfoz | also Kirov wtb moar insider infos like that :P |
| 02:52.06 | kd3 | ah, I was wondering... because I'm sitting at 74850 atm |
| 02:52.19 | End | yeah, the honor cap is annoyingly low |
| 02:52.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: what of the above was new to you? |
| 02:53.23 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: blizz supposedly planning on removing UI customizability completely with 2.0 |
| 02:53.45 | Gnarfoz | the completely part, especially |
| 02:54.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: no, that was just vauge. Remember that we got the "secure" stuff with 2.0 - there simply wasn't going to be a replacement for the old functionality |
| 02:54.17 | ScytheBlade1 | It wasn't "completely" |
| 02:54.27 | Gnarfoz | cutting back on it was obvious and obviously not new, heh |
| 02:54.45 | End | it sounded like to me that we'd lose the ability to touch any of the target/cast/etc stuff, but eventually the secure stuff emerged |
| 02:54.52 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 02:54.58 | ScytheBlade1 | But that isn't "completely" |
| 02:55.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Crippling, yes |
| 02:55.12 | Gnarfoz | what Kirov said made it sound more like "well fuck this shit, they're making addons to trivialize everything, we'll just nuke custom addons from orbit and be done with it" :p |
| 02:55.16 | kd3 | oh by the way, the Dying Curse trinket is <3 |
| 02:55.22 | End | I mean we still can't touch target/cast/etc, but we can deal with it inderectly |
| 02:55.22 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: it is |
| 02:55.25 | End | which is fine |
| 02:55.26 | End | kd3: agreed! |
| 02:55.41 | kd3 | my boomkin guildie nearly killed me when I won it |
| 02:55.59 | Gnarfoz | https://www.adminlife.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/256lp-hpsuperdome.jpg wtb |
| 02:56.04 | kd3 | which is bad considering he knows where I live |
| 02:56.10 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:56.11 | End | lol |
| 02:56.19 | ScytheBlade1 | just nuke the whole area? :P |
| 02:56.56 | Thunder_Child | that feels like so much PS |
| 02:57.08 | End | move your linode to dallas, it's where all the other cool servers are |
| 02:57.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Now that everyone |
| 02:57.22 | ScytheBlade1 | left Atlanta, I'm kinda liking it :P |
| 02:57.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I actually have two linodes and I should REALLY move the second one elsewhere |
| 02:57.45 | Gnarfoz | there should be online music stores that sell stuff in FLAC |
| 02:57.49 | End | apparently their newark DC is second most populated |
| 02:57.54 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 02:57.57 | ScytheBlade1 | and atlanta the least |
| 02:58.05 | End | I find that crazy, the newark one is really new |
| 02:58.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Which isn't surprising, but eh |
| 02:58.20 | ScytheBlade1 | They were running on next to no free slots for a LONG while |
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| 02:58.27 | End | yeah |
| 02:58.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Months, the most you would see available was 1-2 low end ones |
| 02:58.35 | End | I remember when I set up my linode |
| 02:58.38 | End | I barely snagged a 360 |
| 02:58.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Now they have over 200 available |
| 02:58.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Closer to 250 |
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| 03:01.35 | Gnarfoz | grml |
| 03:01.39 | Gnarfoz | fucking Music Industry :( |
| 03:02.16 | Gnarfoz | I'm tempted to buy this album, but I know the artist will get but pennies of what I pay for it |
| 03:04.50 | Hirsute-Away | Gnarfoz: It's pennies more than what the artist will get if you don't. >.> |
| 03:04.51 | alestane | On the other hand, not buying the album gives the artist nothing. |
| 03:04.59 | cbreak | I read somewhere that artists earn most money with concerts. |
| 03:05.21 | End | yeah, that's what I've heard too |
| 03:05.49 | Gnarfoz | well, I dunno how many concerts a 19y/o will do :D |
| 03:06.34 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I wonder why, after "the DRM war" is won, they still don't sell FLAC'd versions :O |
| 03:06.40 | Gnarfoz | mp3 320kbit/s wtf |
| 03:06.59 | cbreak | player support |
| 03:07.02 | kd3 | because ipods don't support flacs? |
| 03:07.23 | Gnarfoz | fuck ipods? |
| 03:07.30 | kd3 | 20960/21k |
| 03:07.30 | kd3 | gah |
| 03:07.32 | Gnarfoz | also, ipods could easily support it :p |
| 03:07.32 | alestane | kd3: I finally got it up and running. A matter of finding a repository that included FF3 as a package. |
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| 03:07.49 | Gnarfoz | there's lots of players that don't support high-bitrate mp3 :O |
| 03:08.17 | cbreak | ipods support apple lossless. some proprietary format I think. |
| 03:08.34 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 03:08.37 | Gnarfoz | that's AAC right there :p |
| 03:09.06 | Gnarfoz | at least... it was once |
| 03:09.06 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 03:09.07 | cbreak | aac is lossy |
| 03:09.16 | Gnarfoz | yeah, missed that |
| 03:09.18 | ScytheBlade1 | alac is their lossless |
| 03:09.48 | Gnarfoz | wait, so Apple is doing it the Microsoft way? |
| 03:10.23 | cbreak | not really |
| 03:10.31 | cbreak | I haven't seen apple actually use it :) |
| 03:10.34 | Gnarfoz | alac? |
| 03:10.37 | kd3 | whee, 30 factions exalted |
| 03:10.42 | cbreak | grats |
| 03:10.46 | cbreak | I got 31 tonight :) |
| 03:11.16 | Gnarfoz | wonder why they re-invented the wheel, then |
| 03:11.25 | kd3 | NIH syndrome |
| 03:11.27 | Uthas | ok, if I listen for an event, say CHAT_MSG_ADDON, and I catch it |
| 03:11.34 | ScytheBlade1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Lossless |
| 03:11.35 | Uthas | how do I get the info that has been sent? |
| 03:11.36 | Gnarfoz | kd3: with apple? |
| 03:11.44 | Uthas | pick it out of arg1, arg2, etc? |
| 03:11.46 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: yeah, read it, doesn't state any reason :p |
| 03:11.52 | Tekkub | down |
| 03:11.55 | Tekkub | mt |
| 03:12.03 | cbreak | I think it's for intermediates in their audio products |
| 03:12.03 | kd3 | left! |
| 03:12.44 | Gnarfoz | cbreak: it says ipods can play it, that'd mean it's for "finals", or whatever the opposite to intermediates would be :D |
| 03:12.52 | Hirsute-Away | Uthas: The info will be passed to the OnEvent function for the frame you have registered to catch the event. |
| 03:13.11 | cbreak | yes, they can. but the store doesn't sell them |
| 03:13.19 | Hirsute-Away | At least, it will be if you pass it ..., I think. |
| 03:13.21 | cbreak | so I don't think the format was intended for end users |
| 03:13.40 | Uthas | crud the registering of events confused the hell out of me |
| 03:13.49 | cbreak | it's very flexible :) |
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| 03:14.09 | Gnarfoz | then, to return to my point: wtb FLAC selling online music stores :p |
| 03:14.10 | cbreak | if you listen for several events, you have to manually dispatch them as well |
| 03:14.26 | cbreak | I read some russian store does that Gnarfoz. |
| 03:14.26 | Thrae|pc | Bleh. I'm forced to use my cell phone for internet access. |
| 03:14.30 | cbreak | magnatunes probably too |
| 03:14.40 | Gnarfoz | cbreak: kind of doubt their legality |
| 03:14.59 | cbreak | they are legal in russia apparently |
| 03:15.03 | Gnarfoz | who cares |
| 03:15.12 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 03:15.37 | Gnarfoz | that IFPI is going after THEM should be a good indication, I guess^^ |
| 03:17.23 | cbreak | they go after everyone. |
| 03:17.28 | cbreak | even completely innocent pirates |
| 03:17.31 | kd3 | ^ |
| 03:18.24 | Gnarfoz | just saying, if the major industry group is going after russian music stores because *they* don't get their share, I doubt the artists get theirs |
| 03:19.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Buy a shirt or go to a concert. Bam, you've just given the artist more than any CD can |
| 03:19.25 | Gnarfoz | I would, if there were either :D |
| 03:19.51 | Gnarfoz | guess I'll wait :p |
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| 03:22.35 | Thrae|pc | Anyone use oUF? I'm trying to add combo points to it. |
| 03:23.55 | haste | texture of fonstring? |
| 03:24.02 | haste | s/f/r/ |
| 03:24.18 | Thrae|pc | Just a simple fontstring. I see the module and I thought that would handle it if I set CPoints to true, but that doesn't seem to enable it. |
| 03:24.55 | haste | no, it has to be a fontstring, not a boolean value |
| 03:25.03 | Thrae|pc | Ahhhh |
| 03:25.13 | Thrae|pc | Yeah it errored with a boolean. |
| 03:26.03 | haste | yeh, I don't do any validation of the frametypes |
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| 03:33.34 | Thrae|pc | haste: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/108734 <-- what's wrong with that? |
| 03:33.52 | haste | .cpoints ~= .CPoints |
| 03:34.10 | Thrae|pc | Ah whoops. The error it gave me was about cpoints so I thought that was the variable. |
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| 03:35.56 | Thrae|pc | haste: OK thanks :) |
| 03:36.03 | haste | :) |
| 03:36.06 | Thrae|pc | Works very well as a minimalist addition to PR |
| 03:37.27 | Thrae|pc | Anyone know the GameFont sizes off hand? GameFontNormal, GameFontBig? |
| 03:38.33 | Thrae|pc | Ah - "GameFontNormalLarge" should do it |
| 03:38.40 | Thunder_Child | kirkburn would....so of course he is not here |
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| 03:43.56 | Thrae|pc | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_FontInstance_SetFontObject got it. |
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| 03:47.24 | Thrae|pc | haste: Can I do a Post<any registered event by oUF> without hooking / registering it on my own? |
| 03:47.59 | haste | Thrae|pc: nope, you have to register your own |
| 03:49.26 | haste | also, hooking the event handlers in oUF is a major pain in the ass, so you probably don't want to do that :p |
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| 03:57.42 | Kirov | Gnarfoz - on the (now two hours past) topic of that image you posted, I'd definately expect to see something like that in maybe 3-4 years, including the 90% cpu usage as no one can figure out how to write consumer level programs to run on more than one core and everything will probably be so rediculously inefficient at it that notepad will use 50% of all cpu time by itself. |
| 03:58.08 | Gnarfoz | that's from now, btw |
| 03:58.09 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 03:58.16 | Kirov | From a server, yes |
| 03:58.20 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 03:58.31 | Kirov | Note, I said consumer level |
| 03:59.36 | Kirov | Though, if they made task manager performance monitor esk programs for modern day 3d cards it'd look like that. |
| 04:00.26 | Kirov | It probably could look like that if they were running CUDA |
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| 04:07.50 | sysrage_ | woot. I can supersize my meals twice a week with the stimulus plan! |
| 04:11.57 | Dagmar | Blizz needs to implement a spec-based ignore on their forums. |
| 04:20.55 | Kirov | ? |
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| 04:31.00 | Dagmar | Well, since they got all the tards to zerg over to survivalist spec, it would just be a convenient way to filter out most of the crap. |
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| 04:42.18 | Kyahx | so I have a bunch of refer-a-friend levels stored up -- what class should I auto-level next, hmmm |
| 04:42.24 | Kyahx | pally, rouge, warlock |
| 04:42.41 | Thunder_Child | yes, no, no |
| 04:42.47 | Corrodias | warlock is like mage is like hunter, find something else |
| 04:43.00 | Kyahx | pally eh? |
| 04:43.11 | Corrodias | paladins are ass at low levels, so that's probably about right |
| 04:43.16 | Corrodias | *were ass in 2.4 |
| 04:43.18 | Thunder_Child | unless you really need to open lockboxes |
| 04:43.23 | Corrodias | at low levels |
| 04:43.46 | Kyahx | eh, I always thought rouges were fun |
| 04:43.48 | Kyahx | but I already have a druid |
| 04:44.06 | Kyahx | and hunters / shamans look boring |
| 04:44.40 | Dagmar | That depends on how reckless you like being |
| 04:45.24 | Kyahx | How so? |
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| 04:47.39 | Corrodias | fightfightfight BLIND SPRINT RUN RUN OMG FADE |
| 04:48.43 | Kyahx | hehe |
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| 05:05.44 | Dagmar | If you like getting drunk and pulling by falling off a cliff into the middle of an enemy camp and living... |
| 05:06.49 | Corrodias | you might be a troll |
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| 05:22.12 | Dagmar | No, you can actually get away with that at 80 as a BM hunter with a gorilladin backing you up. |
| 05:23.57 | Dagmar | Without an AOE pet it just means you have to be a little quick to get the pet to smack everything currently trying to eat your face. |
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| 05:59.35 | Tekkub | ah I loves idiots |
| 05:59.45 | Tekkub | show up for 25 man vault |
| 05:59.46 | Wobin | oh god |
| 05:59.50 | Wobin | finally did heroic oculus |
| 05:59.52 | Thunder_Child | i love to watch them, not interact with them |
| 05:59.53 | Tekkub | buff the entire raid |
| 06:00.07 | Tekkub | raid leader, also priest, asks me if I have candles |
| 06:00.16 | Torhal | Haha |
| 06:00.20 | Tekkub | I'm nice, give him some, even though hw should always have a fucking stack |
| 06:00.29 | Tekkub | and he proceed to rebuff the fucking raid |
| 06:00.34 | Wobin | hehe |
| 06:00.48 | Thunder_Child | i just did normal oc for the first time today |
| 06:01.20 | Wobin | The thing is, no matter how well geared your party is |
| 06:01.20 | Torhal | Tekkub: Does this _really_ surprise you? |
| 06:01.24 | Wobin | You can still suck on the final boss |
| 06:01.33 | Wobin | cause the gear doesn't matter =P |
| 06:01.43 | Tekkub | no but I want to bitch to people that won't just say that I'm "taking it the wrong way" |
| 06:01.47 | Wobin | I just stripped naked and did a nude run for that boss |
| 06:01.53 | Thunder_Child | they should do the same thing they did with vechicals in the new instance |
| 06:01.54 | Torhal | Ah, ok. |
| 06:01.55 | Tekkub | lol |
| 06:02.13 | Thunder_Child | mount power = grear lvevl |
| 06:02.15 | Thunder_Child | gear* |
| 06:02.19 | Thunder_Child | level* |
| 06:02.22 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 06:02.23 | infobot | You suck at everything in life, Thunder_Child. I hate you because you fail. |
| 06:02.33 | Wobin | We died about 10 times trying to figure out a good strategy |
| 06:02.36 | Wobin | infobot_: ? |
| 06:02.39 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 06:02.44 | Wobin | where did purl go? =( |
| 06:02.45 | Dagmar | What? Did the PTR go up? |
| 06:02.47 | Thunder_Child | infobot always == purl |
| 06:03.07 | Wobin | well no, purl == infobot |
| 06:03.14 | Wobin | but infobot ~= purl =( |
| 06:03.27 | Thunder_Child | ~emulate purl |
| 06:03.27 | infobot | Mwhaha, fear my spam! |
| 06:03.33 | Thunder_Child | ~purl |
| 06:03.33 | infobot | ACTION coughs up a hairball |
| 06:03.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: meh, the one thing i like about the last boss in oculus is that it's one thing you can't just overgear and steamroll through. it takes a modicum of strategy and skill |
| 06:04.08 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, if you are overgearing then there isnt any reason to be in there in the first place |
| 06:04.16 | Thunder_Child | overgeared* |
| 06:04.26 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: It's a good fight once you've worked out your roles |
| 06:04.29 | Wobin | however |
| 06:04.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: helping out a lesser geared person, for emblems, for fun |
| 06:04.37 | Wobin | once you figure out in your group how to do it effectively |
| 06:04.48 | Wobin | You never ever want to do it again unless it's with people who have done it before |
| 06:04.54 | Wobin | and people who have done it before |
| 06:04.59 | Wobin | never ever want to do it again =P |
| 06:05.11 | NightHawkTheSane | well, people who haven't done it before should do non-heroic once or twice |
| 06:05.13 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 06:06.25 | Thunder_Child | first time i did SoL was in heroic |
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| 06:07.27 | Thunder_Child | s/SoL/HoL/ |
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| 06:07.49 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, b ut HoL is seriously easy |
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| 06:08.11 | Thunder_Child | same with AN:OK |
| 06:08.32 | Thunder_Child | Drak |
| 06:08.58 | Thunder_Child | it's because i hit 80 while is was still in Zul'Drak |
| 06:09.20 | NightHawkTheSane | occulus and HoS are probably the only two instances where i'd say someone ought to do it on normal before heroic, just to understand the zone |
| 06:09.34 | NightHawkTheSane | and HoS only so you're not blindsided by the event |
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| 06:20.08 | Wobin | sorry SoL? |
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| 06:21.20 | Thunder_Child | thats why i canged it |
| 06:21.23 | Thunder_Child | changed* |
| 06:21.28 | Thunder_Child | 22:07.56Â Â Â Â Â Â Thunder_Child: s/SoL/HoL/ |
| 06:21.28 | Thunder_Child | 22:07.56Â Â Â Â Â Â infobot_: Thunder_Child meant: first time i did HoL was in heroic |
| 06:21.37 | Wobin | yeah, but I'd dc'd |
| 06:21.52 | Thunder_Child | according to mine it was af...oh...right |
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| 07:11.35 | ccox | sigh.. Rainstorm is messing with my power. |
| 07:11.49 | ccox | thank goodness for 1200VA UPS's |
| 07:17.01 | Kyahx | ding, 60 #4. Now onto the next set of toons >.< |
| 07:17.32 | Thunder_Child | you know they go up to 80 now |
| 07:17.42 | Kyahx | :) im doing refer-a-friend accounts |
| 07:17.49 | Kyahx | so goal is to get as many 60s as I can in the 90 days |
| 07:18.27 | mikma | kyahx: why? |
| 07:18.44 | Kyahx | for funsies? |
| 07:18.54 | mikma | olololoo |
| 07:19.27 | Kyahx | friends restarted on a new server -- so we're getting a good "starting point" |
| 07:19.40 | mikma | you play in us right? |
| 07:19.46 | Kyahx | yea |
| 07:19.49 | mikma | olololoo |
| 07:20.02 | Kyahx | *rasp* |
| 07:21.03 | Kyahx | Why has blizzard not caved and added instance maps yet |
| 07:21.06 | Kyahx | this needs to get done |
| 07:29.54 | mikma | there was this ace* addon that actually did it |
| 07:30.40 | Kyahx | I know it exists, I just always forget to install it :P |
| 07:34.10 | Torhal | Kyahx: Then do so now. |
| 07:34.18 | Torhal | InstanceMaps :D |
| 07:35.08 | Kyahx | someday I will remember before im actually in the instance :P |
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| 07:37.25 | [L4E]Flowy | hello |
| 07:37.35 | [L4E]Flowy | how to easy change one string to another |
| 07:37.48 | [L4E]Flowy | without using if then |
| 07:40.01 | ccox | L4E - um, some context would help... a lot. |
| 07:40.16 | [L4E]Flowy | "INVTYPE_HEAD" - "HeadSlot" |
| 07:40.20 | [L4E]Flowy | "INVTYPE_NECK" - "NeckSlot" |
| 07:40.24 | [L4E]Flowy | "INVTYPE_SHOULDER" - "ShoulderSlot" |
| 07:40.27 | [L4E]Flowy | etc |
| 07:41.23 | ccox | I still have no earthly idea what you are talking about |
| 07:41.46 | ccox | you jumped in, and asked a question, without enough context for anyone to guess what you are talking about |
| 07:42.18 | Flowy | hmm i can use if this == "INVTYPE_HEAD" then this = "" elseif this == "" then "" ... |
| 07:42.28 | ccox | back up, give us some context! |
| 07:42.30 | Flowy | can i use table or something? |
| 07:42.31 | mikma | flowy: like, HeadSlot = INVTYPE_HEAD |
| 07:42.46 | Torhal | Flowy: Yes. You can use a table |
| 07:42.46 | ccox | yes, it sounds like all you need is a single table |
| 07:42.56 | Flowy | hmm :) how |
| 07:43.13 | ccox | ["string1"] = "string2" |
| 07:43.18 | Torhal | ["INVTYPE_HEAD"] = "Text For Head" |
| 07:44.50 | Flowy | and can i make something like [""] = "" ? |
| 07:45.13 | Torhal | ...which would acheive exactly what? |
| 07:45.23 | Torhal | s/acheive/achieve/ |
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| 07:45.33 | Flowy | if the variable is nil |
| 07:45.55 | Torhal | nil ~= "" |
| 07:46.05 | Flowy | ok |
| 07:46.06 | Flowy | but |
| 07:46.29 | Flowy | GetItemInfo() return invslot name or "" |
| 07:46.44 | Flowy | String - Where the item may be equipped, if it can. If not equippable, this is an empty string, "". |
| 07:47.22 | Torhal | if string ~= "" then DoSomethingWith(myTable[string') |
| 07:47.34 | Torhal | if string ~= "" then DoSomethingWith(myTable["string"]) end |
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| 07:49.49 | Mike-N-Go | Is tekkub the original author of LDB? |
| 07:51.06 | Torhal | Mike-N-Go: Yup. |
| 07:51.28 | mikma | oh wow, that's interesting "bug/feature" i found... |
| 07:51.34 | Torhal | ? |
| 07:52.40 | mikma | i coded a small addon that colors the bottom of screen depending what presence you are in with DK |
| 07:52.53 | mikma | it should color the bottom at login. what happens? |
| 07:53.18 | mikma | two diffent types of logins exist: login from character menu, /console reloadui |
| 07:53.59 | mikma | i execute my code at event "PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD" -> doesn't work at the first login (character menu to game) |
| 07:54.04 | mikma | but it works with /console reloadui |
| 07:54.29 | mikma | if i want to make it work with the first login, i need "UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS", but that doesn't work with /console reloadui :D |
| 07:55.18 | mikma | so i need to do it like so: |
| 07:55.19 | mikma | http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=mikma&path=%2FLowrider%2FLowrider.lua |
| 07:55.34 | Torhal | Just have it listen for PLAYER_LOGIN, and at the bottom of your lua file have it do this: |
| 07:55.50 | mikma | hmm. let's try that one too and see what happens |
| 07:55.59 | Torhal | if (IsLoggedIn()) then RunPLAYER_LOGIN_code end |
| 07:56.54 | mikma | same think than with PEW, doesn't work at character menu -> game -login |
| 07:57.20 | mikma | the problem is GetShapeshiftForm() returns 0 with the charmenu-login |
| 07:57.30 | mikma | with /console reloadui it returns a correct value |
| 07:57.56 | Torhal | But registering PLAYER_LOGIN will work for /reloadui and adding if "IsLoggedIn() then YourLoginCode() end" in your main lua body will work |
| 07:58.17 | Torhal | It's a necessary hack. |
| 07:58.27 | mikma | to be honest, i can't see why that would work |
| 07:58.32 | Tekkub | you're a necessary hack |
| 07:58.37 | Tekkub | wait now, you're just a hakc |
| 07:58.42 | Torhal | Tekkub: Bah :P |
| 07:58.53 | mikma | because if IsLoggedIn() ain't true at the time it runs the code -> fail |
| 07:59.22 | Tekkub | uh |
| 07:59.29 | Tekkub | then register what you need |
| 07:59.53 | Tekkub | if logged in then init else register for what you need to init on end |
| 08:00.37 | NightHawkTheSane | you know what's always bugged me about star trek? 90% of all the battles are basically naval battles. two ships standing still blowing the shit out of each other |
| 08:00.57 | mikma | yeah, that's what i did. haste told me PEW fires many many times in game, when you exit vehicles etc, so i just unregister that event at the login |
| 08:00.58 | Tekkub | yea |
| 08:01.02 | Tekkub | and? |
| 08:01.24 | Flowy | how to define table? |
| 08:01.31 | mikma | table = {} |
| 08:01.35 | Flowy | MLootRaid = { |
| 08:01.39 | Flowy | MLootRaid["INVTYPE_HEAD"] = "HeadSlot"; |
| 08:01.42 | Flowy | }; |
| 08:01.43 | Flowy | ? |
| 08:02.34 | mikma | do you want INVTYPE_HEAD to be a table too? |
| 08:02.43 | Flowy | no |
| 08:02.52 | Torhal | ~pil |
| 08:02.53 | infobot | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 08:03.08 | mikma | table = { "INVTYPE_HEAD" = "HeadSlot", } afaik :P |
| 08:03.09 | Flowy | http://www.wowwiki.com/Help:Table |
| 08:03.14 | Flowy | there is nothing about that |
| 08:03.30 | Flowy | ok thx |
| 08:03.31 | mikma | not sure, i suck at tables |
| 08:07.20 | jnwhiteh | mikma: no,thats incorrect |
| 08:07.36 | jnwhiteh | local table = {INVTYPE_HEAD = "HeadSlot"} |
| 08:07.45 | jnwhiteh | or local table = {["INVTYPE_HEAD"] = "HeadSlot"} |
| 08:08.41 | mikma | yes, i suck at tables =) |
| 08:09.19 | jnwhiteh | a table is always [key] = value if you are making a non-array |
| 08:09.28 | jnwhiteh | and {item1, item2, item3} if you're making an array |
| 08:09.55 | jnwhiteh | you can use the shortcut when your keys are strings, and do { stringKey = someValue } |
| 08:12.55 | Flowy | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/108749 |
| 08:12.57 | Flowy | is this ok? |
| 08:13.34 | mikma | the url looks fine |
| 08:14.07 | Flowy | I mean the pasted text hmm |
| 08:14.16 | Thunder_Child | ~lart mikma |
| 08:14.16 | infobot | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps mikma |
| 08:15.15 | jnwhiteh | the syntax is correct, yes |
| 08:15.20 | jnwhiteh | you can enable syntax highlighting to see this |
| 08:15.24 | jnwhiteh | or compile the file |
| 08:18.53 | Kyahx | Sprite Zero is like licking 9 volts. Strangely refreshing but definently metalic tasting. |
| 08:19.59 | Flowy | lua> "" |
| 08:19.59 | lua_bot | Flowy: No output |
| 08:20.10 | Flowy | lua> print("") |
| 08:20.10 | lua_bot | Flowy: No output |
| 08:20.26 | Flowy | lua> if "" then print("this") end |
| 08:20.26 | lua_bot | Flowy: this |
| 08:22.17 | Flowy | return MLootRaid["INVTYPE"][invType] |
| 08:22.17 | Flowy | ? |
| 08:22.48 | jnwhiteh | huh? |
| 08:22.51 | Torhal | return MLootRaid["INVTYPE_WHATEVER"] |
| 08:23.19 | Flowy | is this ok for table in table? |
| 08:23.31 | Flowy | the pasted table |
| 08:23.46 | mikma | kyahx: haha |
| 08:24.04 | Kyahx | whole grain goldfish are equally disapointing :( |
| 08:24.15 | Kyahx | why I decided to shop "healthy" I will never know |
| 08:24.54 | Flowy | MLootRaid = { |
| 08:24.55 | Flowy | INVTYPE { |
| 08:24.55 | Flowy | INVTYPE_HEAD = "HeadSlot", |
| 08:25.00 | Flowy | }; |
| 08:25.00 | mikma | lol =D |
| 08:25.06 | mikma | gg kyahx |
| 08:25.10 | Flowy | hmm |
| 08:25.11 | Kyahx | :( |
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| 08:25.44 | mikma | kyahx: that's why i usually buy bacon. lots and lots of bacon. |
| 08:26.02 | Torhal | local MLootRaid = { ["INVTYPE_HEAD"] = "HeadSlot", ["INVTYPE_WRIST"] = "WristSlot", } |
| 08:26.14 | Torhal | ...etc |
| 08:26.21 | Kyahx | I do have bacon....turkey bacon >.> |
| 08:26.34 | Kyahx | allthou that isnt half bad |
| 08:26.47 | Flowy | lua> table = { table2 = { this = "this" }; }; print(table["table2"]["this"] |
| 08:26.47 | lua_bot | Flowy: luabot:1: ')' expected near '<eof>' |
| 08:26.47 | Kyahx | but 49% bad for sure :( |
| 08:26.52 | mikma | kyahx: jebus, what's wrong with you! turkey bacon! |
| 08:26.53 | Flowy | lua> table = { table2 = { this = "this" }; }; print(table["table2"]["this"]) |
| 08:26.53 | lua_bot | Flowy: this |
| 08:26.56 | mikma | tekkub: slap him! |
| 08:27.04 | mikma | he's ruining the bacon more than i am |
| 08:27.23 | End | mmm |
| 08:27.24 | End | bacon |
| 08:27.26 | Flowy | lua> table = { table2 { this = "this" }; }; print(table["table2"]["this"]) |
| 08:27.26 | lua_bot | Flowy: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'table2' (a nil value) |
| 08:30.13 | mikma | that reminded me of The Rock |
| 08:30.34 | Kyahx | mikma: I can partially make up for it. I have two types of double-stuff oreos (choclate and vanilla!) |
| 08:30.48 | Kyahx | but no milk :( |
| 08:31.33 | mikma | kyahx: well, i just had the greatest nom today! Coffee + Reindeermilk -cheese :) |
| 08:31.52 | Kyahx | never had Reindeermilk-cheese |
| 08:32.31 | mikma | kyahx: http://www.tampere.fi/ekstrat/sahkolaitos/naps/naps42003/kuvat/ruoka4.jpg |
| 08:33.11 | Kyahx | im not sure how I feel about that.... |
| 08:35.09 | mikma | oh well, apparently they make it from regular milk nowadays ^^ |
| 08:35.39 | Kyahx | im sure its delicious...it just dosent LOOK delicious |
| 08:36.11 | mikma | http://www.juustoportti.fi/kuva_kansio1/180px_leipajuustosalaatti.jpg |
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| 08:39.07 | mikma | kyahx: look! i found the article in english: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leip%C3%A4juusto |
| 08:40.31 | Kyahx | mmm, that does make it sound appetizing actually |
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| 08:41.10 | mikma | really hard to describe the taste. it's not strong / salty.. it's pretty neutral |
| 08:41.55 | mikma | and yes, it's really squeaky :D |
| 08:42.13 | mikma | like: om (squeak) nom (squeak) nom (squeak) |
| 08:42.40 | mikma | basicly, it's feta - all the salt :D |
| 08:43.28 | Flowy | lua> print(GetItemInfo(12345)) |
| 08:43.28 | lua_bot | Flowy: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'GetItemInfo' (a nil value) |
| 08:43.42 | Flowy | lua> print(GetItemInfo("Hearthstone" )) |
| 08:43.43 | lua_bot | Flowy: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'GetItemInfo' (a nil value) |
| 08:43.45 | Flowy | lua> print(GetItemInfo("Hearthstone")) |
| 08:43.45 | lua_bot | Flowy: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'GetItemInfo' (a nil value) |
| 08:43.48 | mikma | flowy: no, stop |
| 08:43.55 | mikma | GetItemInfo doesn't exist in lua |
| 08:43.58 | Flowy | that mean luabot dont have item db? |
| 08:44.00 | mikma | it's WoW -function only |
| 08:44.00 | Flowy | ah :( |
| 08:44.01 | Flowy | ok |
| 08:44.06 | End | luabot is just a plain old lua bot |
| 08:44.09 | End | none of the WoW stuff |
| 08:44.25 | End | well, maybe it has bitlib and whatnot |
| 08:44.27 | End | lua> bit |
| 08:44.27 | lua_bot | End: nil |
| 08:44.34 | End | fine, be that way |
| 08:44.47 | Flowy | what return GetItemInfo if i write bad number? |
| 08:44.52 | Flowy | "" or nil? |
| 08:45.05 | End | nil probably |
| 08:46.23 | Wobin | coffee cheese?! |
| 08:46.26 | Torhal | !api GetItemInfo() |
| 08:46.26 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'GetItemInfo()': GetTradeTargetItemInfo, GetItemInfo |
| 08:46.32 | Torhal | Bah |
| 08:46.48 | End | zomg, 17 days for PTR now |
| 08:47.06 | Wobin | crazy finns =P |
| 08:47.13 | mikma | wobin: yeah, wait until i find the another food you will .. love |
| 08:47.24 | mikma | wobin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A4mmi |
| 08:47.28 | mikma | now that will blow your mind |
| 08:47.30 | mikma | i swear |
| 08:47.33 | Wobin | does it like.. dissolve into the coffee? |
| 08:47.38 | Wobin | or just float in lumps? |
| 08:47.41 | Torhal | Flowy: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemInfo |
| 08:47.50 | mikma | dunno, never dipped in the coffee |
| 08:47.56 | mikma | i just eat it raw :) |
| 08:48.33 | Wobin | actually that Mammi sounds good =P |
| 08:48.46 | AnduinLothar | Rawr! |
| 08:48.53 | mikma | the fact is, it looks like shit, but the taste is great :O |
| 08:49.00 | Wobin | pft |
| 08:49.07 | Wobin | We have yumcha |
| 08:49.11 | Wobin | we understand that phenomena |
| 08:49.12 | mikma | and you have... |
| 08:49.16 | mikma | wait i need to remember |
| 08:49.30 | mikma | that weird pastry |
| 08:49.37 | Flowy | if (GetItemInfo(string.sub(text,6)) and GetItemInfo(string.sub(text,6)) ~= "") then |
| 08:49.37 | Flowy | local invType = string.sub(select(9,GetItemInfo(string.sub(text,6)),9)); |
| 08:49.40 | Wobin | and by 'you' you mean? |
| 08:49.48 | mikma | australia |
| 08:49.53 | Wobin | pavlova? |
| 08:49.56 | Wobin | lamingtons? |
| 08:50.33 | Wobin | don't think there are many other australian only pastries... |
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| 08:50.52 | mikma | veggiemite? |
| 08:51.01 | Wobin | That's not a pastry =P |
| 08:51.07 | Wobin | that's a spread =) |
| 08:51.15 | mikma | it was in a tube when i saw it :D |
| 08:51.23 | Wobin | you get pastry in tubes? |
| 08:51.35 | mikma | err sorry |
| 08:51.39 | Wobin | They put it in tubes so you don't get butter in the jar |
| 08:51.41 | mikma | i think i said a wrong word |
| 08:51.51 | mikma | pastry = baking stuff, right? |
| 08:52.00 | Wobin | nah, pastry is specific |
| 08:52.21 | Wobin | baked goods, yes |
| 08:52.28 | Wobin | but not Vegemite |
| 08:52.37 | Wobin | that's like peanut butter and jam |
| 08:52.47 | Wobin | something you put on toast |
| 08:53.22 | mikma | what i remember, it was so salty and strong i hated it :D |
| 08:53.35 | Wobin | well you don't eat it straight =P |
| 08:53.41 | Wobin | that's like eating wasabi from the tube =P |
| 08:53.49 | mikma | this chick that was visiting us almost did |
| 08:53.55 | Wobin | You have it on toast with butter, and spread only the thinnest layer on top |
| 08:54.13 | Wobin | well, once you get used to the taste you probably could =) |
| 08:54.14 | mikma | that sounds better than eating straight from the tube O_o |
| 08:55.09 | Wobin | s'good for you too! |
| 08:56.02 | mikma | she also got this saying |
| 08:56.09 | mikma | "almost everything in australia can kill you" |
| 08:56.13 | mikma | even koalas ^^ |
| 08:56.32 | Wobin | we call them 'drop bears' |
| 08:56.33 | AnduinLothar | <3 koalas |
| 08:56.40 | Wobin | Deadly creatures =\ |
| 08:56.42 | AnduinLothar | lol wobin |
| 08:56.51 | AnduinLothar | WTS Drop Bear Repelant |
| 08:56.59 | Wobin | No such thing =( |
| 08:57.00 | AnduinLothar | Spray |
| 08:57.07 | Wobin | They strike when you least expect it |
| 08:57.15 | AnduinLothar | You obviously never played EV Nova |
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| 08:58.02 | Wobin | nope =) |
| 08:58.07 | Wobin | anyway, better get some dinner |
| 08:58.51 | AnduinLothar | In EV Nova there's a Drop Bear Repellant which, after you buy it, causes you to be attacked constantly |
| 08:59.00 | Wobin | See? =) |
| 08:59.17 | Wobin | I meant 'no such thing' as in there's nothing that repells them =) |
| 08:59.40 | Flowy | i have "string" |
| 08:59.41 | AnduinLothar | and it's an unsellable item, so once oyu buy it you cant get rid of it withotu hackign your save file |
| 08:59.53 | Wobin | hehe |
| 08:59.58 | Flowy | how to get text in that string this[text]this |
| 09:00.02 | Flowy | i want [text] |
| 09:00.34 | Flowy | no |
| 09:00.36 | mikma | string.match(mystring,"text") ? |
| 09:00.49 | Flowy | string = this[text]this |
| 09:00.56 | Flowy | i want to get "text" |
| 09:01.03 | AnduinLothar | wut? |
| 09:01.06 | mikma | it's yours to take, there it is |
| 09:01.17 | Flowy | i know string |
| 09:01.24 | Flowy | but dont know text in brackets |
| 09:01.33 | AnduinLothar | why is your text in brackets? |
| 09:01.34 | Flowy | in lua is not regex |
| 09:01.44 | Flowy | its item name |
| 09:02.02 | AnduinLothar | are you formatting text or parsing it? |
| 09:02.06 | Flowy | what to write into gsub? |
| 09:02.19 | mikma | lol i string accidentally |
| 09:03.24 | Flowy | string.gsub("this[text]this",???) |
| 09:03.33 | AnduinLothar | >>> ("hello[item name]world").match("%[.*%]") |
| 09:03.34 | Flowy | it return "text" |
| 09:03.39 | Flowy | thx |
| 09:03.40 | AnduinLothar | hmmm |
| 09:03.51 | mikma | cidebot is broken |
| 09:03.55 | AnduinLothar | wut happened to purl.. |
| 09:03.57 | AnduinLothar | QQ |
| 09:04.21 | Flowy | lua> gsub("this[text]this","%[.*%]") |
| 09:04.21 | lua_bot | Flowy: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'gsub' (a nil value) |
| 09:04.22 | mikma | purl never did that? did it? |
| 09:04.29 | Flowy | lua> string.gsub("this[text]this","%[.*%]") |
| 09:04.30 | lua_bot | Flowy: luabot:1: bad argument #3 to 'gsub' (string/function/table expected) |
| 09:04.31 | End | ~hello |
| 09:04.32 | infobot | Howdy Bub |
| 09:04.38 | End | who are you calling bub! |
| 09:04.43 | mikma | lolbub |
| 09:04.48 | End | ~whaleslap AnduinLothar |
| 09:04.48 | infobot | ACTION beats AnduinLothar upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 09:04.52 | AnduinLothar | lua> string.match("hello[item name]world","%[.*%]") |
| 09:04.52 | lua_bot | AnduinLothar: [item name] |
| 09:04.53 | End | 8-) |
| 09:05.04 | AnduinLothar | ~whaleparry |
| 09:05.12 | End | ~poke |
| 09:05.17 | End | uh oh |
| 09:05.20 | AnduinLothar | ~whaleparry End |
| 09:05.21 | infobot | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry End's attacks. |
| 09:05.23 | Flowy | AnduinLothar and if i want item name without brackets? |
| 09:05.29 | End | lol |
| 09:05.38 | End | ~poke purl |
| 09:05.38 | infobot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind purl, pokes purl repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 09:05.42 | End | haha |
| 09:05.48 | AnduinLothar | lua> string.match("hello[item name]world","%[(.*)%]") |
| 09:05.49 | lua_bot | AnduinLothar: item name |
| 09:05.58 | Flowy | thanks |
| 09:06.18 | AnduinLothar | lua> string.match("hello[item name]world","%[(.-)%]") |
| 09:06.18 | lua_bot | AnduinLothar: item name |
| 09:06.22 | AnduinLothar | that's better |
| 09:06.37 | mikma | how come? |
| 09:06.41 | Flowy | lua> string.match("hello[item name]world","%[(.-)%]") |
| 09:06.41 | lua_bot | Flowy: item name |
| 09:06.49 | Flowy | lua> string.match("hello[item name]wo[rl]d","%[(.-)%]") |
| 09:06.49 | lua_bot | Flowy: item name |
| 09:07.12 | AnduinLothar | lua> string.match("hello[]meh[item name]world","%[(.-)%]") |
| 09:07.12 | lua_bot | AnduinLothar: No output |
| 09:07.21 | AnduinLothar | lua> string.match("hello[]meh[item name]world","%[(.+)%]") |
| 09:07.21 | lua_bot | AnduinLothar: ]meh[item name |
| 09:07.29 | AnduinLothar | lua> string.match("hello[]meh[item name]world","%[(.*)%]") |
| 09:07.29 | lua_bot | AnduinLothar: ]meh[item name |
| 09:07.34 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 09:07.56 | AnduinLothar | lua> string.match("hello[]meh[item name]world","%[(..-)%]") |
| 09:07.56 | lua_bot | AnduinLothar: ]meh[item name |
| 09:08.07 | AnduinLothar | interestish |
| 09:08.35 | Flowy | eh? |
| 09:08.42 | Flowy | why first time no output |
| 09:08.50 | Flowy | and then on same string hmm |
| 09:08.54 | AnduinLothar | lua> string.match("hello[]meh[item name]world","%[([^%]]+)%]") |
| 09:08.55 | lua_bot | AnduinLothar: item name |
| 09:08.58 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 09:09.30 | AnduinLothar | no output because it was an empty string i believe. |
| 09:09.56 | AnduinLothar | if it were nil it woulda just said nil |
| 09:10.12 | AnduinLothar | lua> string.match("hello[meh[item nameworld","%[([^%]]+)%]") |
| 09:10.12 | lua_bot | AnduinLothar: nil |
| 09:10.15 | AnduinLothar | see |
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| 09:11.20 | AnduinLothar | anyway that last match string will match any non-emtpy bracket pairs if you care |
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| 09:12.39 | Tewan | AnduinLothar, world says hello back. |
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| 09:18.17 | Flowy | thx all addon done :) |
| 09:18.37 | AnduinLothar | http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1136295&cid=26945569 |
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| 09:34.22 | AnduinLothar | :) |
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| 10:04.48 | Shirik | wow, gcc's inline assembly syntax is horrible |
| 10:07.01 | End | A plate fell off my desk |
| 10:07.05 | End | and now I'm angry |
| 10:07.06 | Shirik | yay |
| 10:07.08 | End | ANGRRRY |
| 10:07.16 | End | it pisses me off so much |
| 10:07.17 | AnduinLothar | use regex to fix it |
| 10:07.20 | End | I think I'll pick up my plate |
| 10:07.32 | Shirik | I hope it had stainy things on it, End |
| 10:07.45 | End | no, it didn't |
| 10:07.54 | End | it just made me angry seeing it laying there |
| 10:07.57 | End | PLATE |
| 10:08.00 | End | why did you betray me! |
| 10:08.01 | End | WHHHY |
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| 10:08.43 | Thunder_Child | end, stop whining and clean up teh plate |
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| 10:09.51 | End | I did |
| 10:09.57 | End | I'm less angry now |
| 10:10.33 | Shirik | no |
| 10:10.36 | Shirik | keep whining |
| 10:10.43 | Shirik | is good for you |
| 10:10.46 | End | is it? |
| 10:10.50 | Shirik | yes |
| 10:10.50 | End | that would make me a QQer |
| 10:10.53 | End | QQ |
| 10:10.59 | Shirik | it reduces stress levels |
| 10:11.25 | Thunder_Child | ~qq Shirik |
| 10:11.26 | infobot | CRY MOAR Shirik |
| 10:11.26 | End | I'm not sure whining has much effect on my stress levels |
| 10:11.31 | Shirik | wha |
| 10:11.32 | Shirik | we lost purl |
| 10:11.33 | Shirik | :( |
| 10:11.34 | End | the plate betraying me made me angry though |
| 10:11.34 | AnduinLothar | distributes stress levels, more like |
| 10:11.44 | Shirik | why :( |
| 10:11.45 | End | THE PLATE BETRAYED ME |
| 10:11.58 | End | ~whalenuke Shirik |
| 10:11.59 | infobot | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Shirik with his mind powers. |
| 10:12.06 | End | ~failrik |
| 10:12.06 | infobot | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 10:12.18 | End | Someone needs to fix infobot_'s nick |
| 10:15.41 | Shirik | pop quiz |
| 10:15.46 | End | soda |
| 10:15.47 | Thunder_Child | POP |
| 10:15.47 | End | not pop |
| 10:15.48 | Shirik | C++: Pixel (&pixels)[WIDTH][HEIGHT]=*new Pixel[1][WIDTH][HEIGHT]; |
| 10:15.50 | End | don't call it pop |
| 10:15.56 | Thunder_Child | ~pop |
| 10:15.57 | infobot | hmm... pop is (Point Of Presence) This is a local telephone number through which you can access your ISP. The largest national ISPs have POPs all over the country. |
| 10:15.57 | End | IT'S A GODDAMN SODA |
| 10:16.01 | Shirik | Is that a contiguous block of memory? |
| 10:16.25 | Thunder_Child | ~soda |
| 10:16.26 | infobot | Soda is a yummy carbonated drink, or the main form of subsistence for programmers, or actually pop |
| 10:16.39 | End | I don't know, I don't use your crazy C++ language. |
| 10:16.45 | Thunder_Child | ~sodapop |
| 10:16.48 | Shirik | well then you have not been enlightened |
| 10:17.05 | End | not just that |
| 10:17.11 | End | but I'm not enlightening either |
| 10:17.35 | End | (I've used C++, but not recently, so I don't remember the fine points of multidimensional memory allocation) |
| 10:21.15 | Shirik | Okay, since you guys failed pop quiz #1 |
| 10:21.30 | End | I'm the only one who answered |
| 10:21.37 | End | oh wait, I guess Thunder_Child kinda did |
| 10:21.40 | End | ~soda |
| 10:21.40 | infobot | Soda is a yummy carbonated drink, or the main form of subsistence for programmers, or actually pop |
| 10:21.48 | End | it's not actually pop! |
| 10:22.12 | Shirik | Pop quiz #2: EDI+SI <-- is that the correct way to access an array? (EDI = array base, SI = index) |
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| 10:23.29 | Thunder_Child | ffs Shirik, ask google |
| 10:23.34 | Thunder_Child | it knows all |
| 10:23.36 | Shirik | I'm confirming what I've found on google |
| 10:23.37 | Thunder_Child | sees all |
| 10:23.41 | Shirik | google has one flaw |
| 10:23.50 | Thunder_Child | LIES! |
| 10:23.58 | Shirik | it doesn't confirm what you're reading as being (a) correct and (b) making sure you read it correctly |
| 10:24.06 | Thunder_Child | well...it's one flaw is that it isnt an AI |
| 10:24.26 | Thunder_Child | however it does take 1,000 computers to do a search every time |
| 10:25.33 | nevcairiel | Shirik: isnt EDI an index register too? |
| 10:25.38 | Shirik | Yeah I just found that out nevcairiel |
| 10:25.42 | Shirik | EDX+EDI? |
| 10:25.52 | Shirik | I'm having trouble figuring out what's used as the base |
| 10:25.53 | nevcairiel | the syntax is right |
| 10:26.20 | nevcairiel | any of EAX to EDX work, or even smaller ones, if you can live on 16bit values |
| 10:26.55 | Shirik | ah ok |
| 10:27.04 | Shirik | I thought there was supposed to be a special register for it |
| 10:27.13 | Shirik | This is why I stick to Motorola assembly >< |
| 10:27.41 | zenzelezz | go check some of the reference documents from Intel for that sort of stuff |
| 10:27.42 | End | I'd say "why, you're just trying to calculate an address", but x86 assembly seems strange to me |
| 10:28.24 | Shirik | Two reasons (a) For convention and readability, and (b) for potential optimizations |
| 10:28.29 | Thunder_Child | i'm on motorolas dev something something, and i can not figure out why |
| 10:28.34 | nevcairiel | Shirik: there are some conventions which registers to use, since math operations usually use EAX and EBX, you try to avoid using them if you do math in your code |
| 10:28.40 | zenzelezz | as far as I'm aware/thought, the x86 computer has no concept or "arrays", only memory addresses. What's in those addresses is up to the user |
| 10:28.45 | Shirik | ADD EDX, 1, while legal, will likely not be as fast as ADD EAX, 1 |
| 10:29.29 | End | how big is each value? |
| 10:29.34 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: well modern assemblers allow you to define fields, which work like arrays somewhat |
| 10:29.35 | Shirik | EAX is a 32 bit register |
| 10:29.42 | End | no, I mean, in memory |
| 10:29.50 | Shirik | uh |
| 10:29.56 | Shirik | you mean for my problem? |
| 10:29.57 | End | do you have to multiply by the width, or does it do hijinx for you? |
| 10:30.03 | Shirik | one byte |
| 10:30.08 | End | ok, nvm then :P |
| 10:30.08 | Shirik | Not really one byte actually |
| 10:30.15 | Shirik | It's not an easy answer :) |
| 10:30.16 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: don't confuse assemblers with the underlying architecture; but you could still be right - I'm by no means very familiar with it |
| 10:30.21 | Shirik | Answer is 16 bytes, sorta. Really 15 bytes. |
| 10:30.38 | End | I seeee.... |
| 10:30.39 | Shirik | I'm copying 16 bytes at a time to retrieve 15 bytes of data |
| 10:30.52 | End | ah |
| 10:31.44 | End | holy bvalls |
| 10:31.52 | End | it's 3:30 AM |
| 10:31.57 | End | but I have code to write! |
| 10:32.04 | jnwhiteh | neg, its 10:30am |
| 10:32.12 | jnwhiteh | you're late! |
| 10:32.21 | Shirik | It's 5:30 AM |
| 10:32.25 | Shirik | and you guys are nuts |
| 10:32.33 | End | you're nuts |
| 10:32.56 | zenzelezz | you're all freaks for using AM/PM instead of just 24-hour system |
| 10:33.03 | End | and synergy is locking my mouse to the wrong screen |
| 10:33.19 | End | that doesn't really change any of our answers |
| 10:33.34 | Shirik | zenzelezz: You should use a 28-hour system |
| 10:34.08 | zenzelezz | Shirik: nope, my sleep schedule is bad enough already |
| 10:36.26 | Wobin | http://www.wimp.com/violinistlive/ is pretty cool =) |
| 10:36.29 | AnduinLothar | wtb 28hour clock |
| 10:36.56 | Thunder_Child | 0230 is not as fun as 2:30am for some reason |
| 10:37.13 | AnduinLothar | 2:30am sounds earlier |
| 10:37.20 | Thunder_Child | prolly because i keep thinking of what the 0 means |
| 10:39.19 | End | there we go |
| 10:39.22 | End | freakin synergty |
| 10:39.24 | End | freakin synergy |
| 10:39.32 | zenzelezz | you don't have to use the 0 anyway unless you're military-style |
| 10:48.28 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://www.wimp.com/babyporcupine/ |
| 10:48.32 | Wobin | porcupine hiccups! |
| 10:48.58 | Cairenn | awwwwww |
| 10:50.21 | Cairenn | too cute! |
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| 11:20.44 | Shirik | Morning Cairenn |
| 11:20.49 | Shirik | or have you not gone to sleep yet |
| 11:20.50 | Cairenn | morning Shirik |
| 11:20.54 | Cairenn | have you slept yet? |
| 11:21.02 | Shirik | I'm writing a paper, I have an excuse |
| 11:21.17 | Cairenn | I has an excuse too |
| 11:23.31 | Shirik | You're the queen of wowinterface and get to do what you want? |
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| 11:24.21 | Cairenn | something like that :) |
| 11:24.42 | Thunder_Child | you both fail |
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| 11:31.49 | End | Thunder_Child: what's your excuse |
| 11:35.16 | mikma | ~whalefail |
| 11:35.17 | infobot | Thunder_Child: you too! |
| 11:41.20 | Thunder_Child | my excuse is pain |
| 11:44.39 | Cairenn | :( |
| 11:45.29 | Shirik | woot |
| 11:45.41 | Shirik | I think I found the longest instruction in intel architecture |
| 11:45.47 | Shirik | PHMINPOSUW |
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| 11:47.46 | Thunder_Child | PH MIN POS UW? |
| 11:48.58 | mikma | cairenn: this Dragon Kite sure is a attention-gatherer :D |
| 11:49.11 | Cairenn | mikma: good :) |
| 11:49.26 | Arrowmaster | wtb dragon kite =( |
| 11:49.26 | Shirik | Not bad, Thunder_Child :) |
| 11:49.30 | mikma | almost everytime i stand with kite out someone whispers "where did you get that?" |
| 11:50.07 | Shirik | Packed Horizontal Minimum (I have no idea what POS is) Unsigned Word |
| 11:50.22 | Thunder_Child | position/positive |
| 11:50.23 | Thunder_Child | ? |
| 11:50.24 | Shirik | positive unsigned word? |
| 11:50.24 | Thunder_Child | maybe |
| 11:50.26 | Shirik | maybe |
| 11:50.33 | Shirik | none of the other instructions specify positive |
| 11:50.35 | Shirik | seems a bit odd |
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| 11:50.39 | Thunder_Child | i doubr peice of shit |
| 11:50.46 | Thunder_Child | doubt* |
| 11:50.54 | Cairenn | hokay, so, this is the earth, it's all nice and round .... and I'm going to sleep now .... night guys |
| 11:51.05 | Thunder_Child | night Cairenn|afk |
| 11:53.49 | Thunder_Child | HMINPOSUW Sets the bottom unsigned 16-bit word of the destination to the smallest unsigned 16-bit word in the source, and the next-from-bottom to the index of that word in the source. |
| 11:54.17 | Thunder_Child | PH* |
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| 12:11.21 | Shirik | yes Thunder_Child :) |
| 12:11.24 | Shirik | that's its description |
| 12:11.39 | Shirik | I was just saying where the name comes from |
| 12:11.43 | Thunder_Child | i found the white pages from it and it still doesnt have a full name |
| 12:11.49 | Shirik | their white pages have the full name |
| 12:11.56 | Shirik | but |
| 12:12.03 | Shirik | it doesn't match the mnemonic :P |
| 12:12.05 | Thunder_Child | PHMINPOSUW â Packed Horizontal Word Minimum |
| 12:12.06 | Shirik | well not fully |
| 12:12.07 | Shirik | Yeah |
| 12:12.44 | Shirik | by convention they always put the size of the elements at the end of the mnemonic, hence why W is at the end |
| 12:14.08 | Thunder_Child | i thought you said W was word |
| 12:15.51 | Shirik | it is |
| 12:16.07 | Shirik | note the "Word" in "Packed Horizontal Word Minimum" |
| 12:16.09 | Thunder_Child | then how does W describe the size of the element? |
| 12:16.14 | Shirik | Word is 2 bytes |
| 12:16.34 | Shirik | B = Byte, W = Word (2 bytes), D = Double Word (4 bytes, Q = Quad Word (8 bytes) |
| 12:17.17 | Thunder_Child | i do remember that...but it's not something i dealt with |
| 12:19.03 | foxlit | "The Windows Experience Index assesses key system components on a scale of 1.0 to 7.9" |
| 12:19.52 | Shirik | It's not 1 to 10? |
| 12:20.02 | foxlit | No, it's 1.0 to 7.9 |
| 12:20.06 | Shirik | that's odd |
| 12:20.10 | foxlit | (because they're too good to use 8.0 |
| 12:20.16 | Shirik | lol |
| 12:20.40 | Shirik | It's to keep you buying things |
| 12:20.42 | Shirik | to try to get to 8 |
| 12:21.11 | foxlit | But they explicitly state that you can't get an 8 :/ |
| 12:21.23 | foxlit | Perhaps the master plan is to extend the scale at some point |
| 12:21.43 | Shirik | Example of an instruction I'm using now Thunder_Child |
| 12:22.10 | Shirik | PSLLW/PSLLD/PSLLQ: Parallel Shift Logical Left Word/Dword/Qword |
| 12:22.16 | foxlit | ~seen purl |
| 12:22.17 | infobot | purl <i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt> was last seen on IRC in channel ##kierra, 373d 2m 42s ago, saying: 'Tallahassee, Tallahassee Regional Airport, FL, United States; (KTLH) 30-23-35N 084-21-12W 16M; last updated: 2008.02.15 1153 UTC; Dew Point: 30.9 F (-0.6 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.33 in. Hg (1027 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.07 inches (2.3 hPa) higher than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 84%; Sky conditions: clear; ... |
| 12:22.27 | Shirik | But actually I'm using PSLLDQ but same difference |
| 12:23.04 | Thunder_Child | 373 days ago? |
| 12:23.14 | Thunder_Child | HAH i told you it was purl with a sex change |
| 12:23.40 | nevcairiel | purl is online as purl_, but for whatever reason doesnt go here anymore |
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| 12:23.51 | Thunder_Child | ya...shirik, have i mentioned i dont code? |
| 12:23.57 | Shirik | Well you should ^_^ |
| 12:24.20 | Thunder_Child | that means i have to learn something for no reason |
| 12:24.50 | Thunder_Child | i can do it if a have a reason to...but i dont atm |
| 12:26.29 | foxlit | 120hz LCDs are a myth |
| 12:26.38 | foxlit | (in this country) |
| 12:28.07 | End | ~seen infobot |
| 12:28.08 | infobot | i haven't seen 'infobot', End |
| 12:28.10 | End | ~seen infobot_ |
| 12:28.11 | infobot | End: i haven't seen 'infobot_' |
| 12:28.18 | End | YOU WOULDN'T |
| 12:30.34 | Thunder_Child | ~seen purl_ |
| 12:30.35 | infobot | Thunder_Child: i haven't seen 'purl_' |
| 12:30.49 | Shirik | nevcairiel: You said this was syntatically correct? Visual studio disagrees :( |
| 12:30.54 | Shirik | MOVDQUxmm0,EBX+ESI; Grab next group of 5 pixels |
| 12:30.58 | Shirik | er, with spaces |
| 12:31.15 | End | those look like tabs to me! |
| 12:31.17 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 12:31.18 | End | not spaces! |
| 12:31.19 | End | QQ |
| 12:31.19 | Shirik | there's tabs there? |
| 12:31.22 | nevcairiel | do [EBX+ESI] |
| 12:31.36 | Shirik | my client doesn't display tabs apparently, lol |
| 12:31.48 | End | irssi turns tab characters into I |
| 12:31.53 | End | with inverse colors |
| 12:32.03 | Shirik | oh of course nevcairiel |
| 12:32.05 | Shirik | because it's the data at that location |
| 12:32.07 | Shirik | thanks |
| 12:41.51 | Tifi | 1 dqword=5 pixels? o.O |
| 12:42.35 | cbreak | if you pack them good, you can have 8 pixel in a single byte. |
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| 12:44.09 | Tifi | it's just that 5 seems like an... odd number |
| 12:45.56 | foxlit | dq = double-quad = 16 bytes / 3 bytes per pixel ~~ 5 |
| 12:46.48 | foxlit | (merely guessing) |
| 12:46.51 | Tifi | btw Shirik, why don't you align your data and use MOVDQ? it's not that hard |
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| 12:47.17 | Shirik | That's for another topic :) |
| 12:47.24 | Shirik | I don't because it's not given to me in that form |
| 12:47.45 | Shirik | And there's no point in trying to add padding in between 2 million points unelss it's there to begin with |
| 12:47.54 | Shirik | I'm given a stream of sets of 3 bytes |
| 12:48.07 | Shirik | stream is a bad word |
| 12:48.26 | Shirik | I'm given a memory block with an array of about 100000 sets of 3 bytes, right against each other |
| 12:48.42 | Shirik | I need to operate on them in sets of 3 |
| 12:49.04 | Shirik | Which is inevitably going to result in unaligned accesses unless I do some trickery to make it work. That trickery is possible, but it's the subject of another paper |
| 12:49.12 | Shirik | it's also non-trivial |
| 12:50.20 | nevcairiel | sounds like a job for string operations |
| 12:52.28 | Tifi | it's just that mostly the way to make things fast is to change the data structure to something that can be processed faster |
| 12:52.46 | Shirik | I know that Tifi, but that's not an option :) |
| 12:52.58 | Tifi | ah well nvm me, i don't even know what you're doing ^^ |
| 12:53.05 | Shirik | It would be faster to process them individually than it would be to try to align the structure |
| 12:53.22 | Shirik | If the hardware would have given it to me in an aligned form it would be a lot easier |
| 12:54.02 | Shirik | Thing is, I'm processing 5 pixels at a time. Truth is you can actually process 5.33 pixels at a time. If I were to do that, I could guarantee aligned operations as well. But the code becomes a lot, lot harder and is outside the scope of this paper |
| 12:54.18 | foxlit | (see, there's that 16/3 figure again!) |
| 12:55.05 | Shirik | This paper addresses why the compiler refuses to even do the 5 pixels at a time and how to resolve the issue by hand |
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| 13:19.22 | Shirik | ok I go to sleep now for a bit now |
| 13:19.23 | Shirik | byebye |
| 13:22.05 | Shirik | heh, just realized I used an SSE4 instruction in this solution |
| 13:22.09 | Shirik | that's not going to go over well |
| 13:22.12 | Shirik | but it works! |
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| 13:25.11 | mikma | shirik: hai, i need a really cosmic domain name! |
| 13:25.19 | Shirik | plutonia.com |
| 13:25.31 | Shirik | wow that's really not taken |
| 13:26.15 | Shirik | yes it is |
| 13:26.20 | Shirik | someone took it and is like "pz" |
| 13:26.57 | Shirik | The DNS says "No error" but there's also no answer |
| 13:27.21 | cbreak | whois? |
| 13:28.10 | nevcairiel | A domain can be taken without having a DNS entry =p |
| 13:28.46 | nevcairiel | Creation Date: 06-nov-1996 |
| 13:28.46 | nevcairiel | Expiration Date: 27-oct-2009 |
| 13:28.51 | nevcairiel | its been taken, for ever |
| 13:29.02 | Shirik | plutonia.com. 900 IN SOA zen.plutonia.com. tori.plutonia.com. 2008072101 3600 300 3600000 900 |
| 13:29.06 | Shirik | pretty names |
| 13:29.14 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 13:29.17 | Shirik | go to http://zen.plutonia.com/ |
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| 13:52.30 | Shirik | woot woot |
| 13:52.41 | Shirik | went to krispy kreme and they were rolling off the line when I got there |
| 13:52.44 | Shirik | hot donuts ftw |
| 13:52.48 | mikma | hehe, lolwut.pro is open domain ^^ |
| 13:52.57 | Shirik | wtf is .pro |
| 13:52.58 | foxlit | may I remind you of "Shirik: ok I go to sleep now for a bit now" ? |
| 13:53.04 | Shirik | I need to eat donut first |
| 13:53.08 | Thunder_Child | krispy kreme fails |
| 13:53.15 | Shirik | blasphemy! |
| 13:53.21 | Thunder_Child | their only redeming feature is that they are kosher |
| 13:53.21 | foxlit | "now for a bit now" |
| 13:53.28 | foxlit | ^^ I'd say you're sleep-typing already |
| 13:53.38 | Shirik | ") |
| 13:53.39 | Shirik | :( |
| 13:53.45 | Thunder_Child | i have had BETTER than krispy kreme at a lower price |
| 13:53.52 | Thunder_Child | sadly they went out of busness |
| 13:54.05 | Shirik | go to the store |
| 13:54.12 | Shirik | not from grocery store |
| 13:54.25 | nevcairiel | Hm, .pro is actually a real TLD |
| 13:54.31 | Shirik | good price and so much better |
| 13:54.53 | Shirik | 12 HOT donuts, $6 |
| 13:54.57 | Shirik | doesn't get much better than that |
| 13:55.46 | Shirik | nevcairiel: For "professionals" ? |
| 13:55.55 | nevcairiel | thats what the domain said |
| 13:55.58 | foxlit | Stand back. |
| 13:56.04 | Fisker- | hay Shirik |
| 13:56.06 | foxlit | We're professionals from the internets? |
| 13:56.30 | Shirik | This PS-SLD Policy ("Policy") summarizes the policy under which RegistryPro, the Registry Operator of the .Pro Top Level Domain, evaluates and creates new Profession-Specific Second Level Domains ("PS-SLDs") within the .Pro namespace. |
| 13:56.57 | foxlit | PS: Send Lots (of) Dollars |
| 13:57.29 | Shirik | 4. "It should represent professions which are commonly understood to be of high ethical standing and well respected in the community." |
| 13:57.31 | Shirik | HA! |
| 13:58.00 | foxlit | No blackjackandhookers.pro? |
| 13:58.20 | Shirik | I find it amusing that something can be considered "ethical and well respected" on the internet these days |
| 13:58.44 | cbreak | soon there will be more TLDs than second level domains... |
| 13:58.50 | cbreak | and gone is the hierarchy |
| 13:58.53 | Shirik | I'm not sure about that |
| 13:59.03 | Shirik | The TLD price is going to be much higher than average registration |
| 13:59.14 | Shirik | granted Disney's already saying they'll probably bid, and I'm sure google will too |
| 13:59.14 | cbreak | they want to add .æ¥æ¬... |
| 13:59.17 | Shirik | but only huge companies like that |
| 13:59.34 | Shirik | cbreak, did you miss that you can actually purchase TLDs soon? |
| 13:59.56 | cbreak | you mean... for just money? |
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| 14:00.25 | Shirik | That's my understanding. I'm having trouble finding the news articles on it right now |
| 14:00.32 | Shirik | but it might be that it's 9 AM and I haven't slept yet |
| 14:01.01 | Shirik | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7468855.stm but this is old and it was approved iirc |
| 14:02.14 | Shirik | Here it is |
| 14:02.17 | cbreak | well, after the kaminski presentation last year I am not sure if I still like the DNS... adding tld creep doesn't improve that |
| 14:02.17 | Shirik | $185k, cbreak |
| 14:02.29 | cbreak | ok, a lot of money :) |
| 14:02.49 | Shirik | http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/comments-en.htm |
| 14:03.14 | Shirik | http://www.itworld.com/internet/56886/icann-proposes-new-way-buy-top-level-domains |
| 14:03.51 | Shirik | haha, oh it gets better cbreak |
| 14:03.55 | Shirik | $185k is not to purchase |
| 14:03.57 | Shirik | it's to apply |
| 14:04.06 | Shirik | you could be denied and say goodbye to your money |
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| 14:04.28 | Shirik | (Though I doubt that will be an issue) |
| 14:05.39 | Shirik | Anyway, now that I have had my 4 donuts, I shall go to sleep |
| 14:05.53 | Shirik | and it's quite obvious I need to go to sleep because I almost typed phones instead of donuts, and I have no logical explanation as to why |
| 14:06.35 | cbreak | night. |
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| 14:12.59 | Thunder_Child | sleep deprevasion seems to be functionaly equivilent to being intoxicated. <--massive spelling errors i am to lazy to solve |
| 14:18.22 | |pez| | And, it hurts like hell. :P |
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| 15:19.55 | cbreak | uh... a radiation blast of over 9000 exploding suns! |
| 15:23.07 | Industrial | you took a crap? |
| 15:23.24 | cbreak | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hunuYVRl_JED-6uYJGqRJASGFSvw |
| 15:24.22 | Industrial | coolio |
| 15:32.25 | batrick | norton goback is such a piece of shit |
| 15:32.26 | ZorbaTHut | oh god the worst player I've ever seen has resubscribed |
| 15:32.30 | ZorbaTHut | I hoped he was gone forever :( |
| 15:35.07 | Ycarene | Is there any sort of tool that lets you design a UI interface XML graphically? |
| 15:35.14 | Ycarene | That doesn't require windows? |
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| 16:37.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Ycarene: yes. The WoW client. ;) |
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| 16:38.55 | Ycarene | heh |
| 16:39.05 | Ycarene | heh |
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| 16:47.20 | mikma | cairenn|afk: [18:44:57] [Scofield] whispers: where did you get the dragon kite ?:) |
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| 17:47.31 | foxlit | I need to steal some xpcall code from somewhere :/ |
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| 17:48.58 | nevcairiel | I can offer you a optimized implementation for less-garbage generation |
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| 17:55.01 | foxlit | I suppose I'm going to have to stuff the initial argument list into a table |
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| 17:55.21 | nevcairiel | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/108772 |
| 17:55.30 | nevcairiel | thats what we use in Ace3 |
| 17:55.40 | foxlit | Then create a local invocation function that'd invoke the requested function with the args inside the table |
| 17:55.42 | nevcairiel | to avoid mass closure creation, we only create one per argument count |
| 17:55.58 | nevcairiel | with some upvalue cheats to avoid the table |
| 17:56.12 | foxlit | Then there's the problem of handling the return values, which would probably need another table. |
| 17:56.34 | foxlit | Or perhaps returns aren't a problem. |
| 18:06.09 | foxlit | nevcairiel: here's what I was thinking of: http://pastey.net/108774 |
| 18:14.11 | nevcairiel | yeah that works too, although i don't like the select loop, select is slow :) |
| 18:14.25 | nevcairiel | but always depends where you use it |
| 18:14.53 | nevcairiel | ours also runs in a timer library, which could aswell fire every 0.1s per timer |
| 18:15.12 | foxlit | Events could also probably trigger faster than that. |
| 18:15.20 | foxlit | But how slow is slow? |
| 18:15.44 | foxlit | (the disadvantage of this thing is that I can't lock it with all the tail calls :/) |
| 18:15.49 | foxlit | s/lock/clock/ |
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| 20:15.28 | Kaso | http://www.hasbro.com/games/adult-games/scrabble/home.cfm?page=home |
| 20:15.35 | Kaso | scrabble word of the day ^_- |
| 20:16.55 | Fisker- | ASS |
| 20:16.55 | Fisker- | a hoofed mammal |
| 20:16.56 | Fisker- | :3? |
| 20:17.26 | mikma | kinky kelly and the sexy stud |
| 20:18.26 | foxlit | Fisker-: an ass is a cow? |
| 20:19.37 | Tekkub | kinky cow what now? |
| 20:24.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaso: well, the url does say /adult-games/ ;) |
| 20:31.23 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: a mule -.- |
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| 20:33.26 | Aqua | an ass is a donkey... |
| 20:34.12 | mikma | stop being a donkey |
| 20:34.39 | foxlit | Hey, stop bashing donkeys. |
| 20:34.54 | foxlit | A donkey is a very respectable profession; someone does have to carry objects around. |
| 20:36.05 | mikma | also...... kinky kelly and the sexy stud!!! |
| 20:40.18 | Anaral | Is there any way to find out where items are in LibPeriodicTable? Or maybe even a tooltip mod to add where an item is? |
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| 21:09.18 | ccox | wow, no tackles or STATION - everyone must be asleep |
| 21:10.20 | mikma | ya. ZZZzzz... |
| 21:12.15 | mikma | yey for fantastic four! (we) |
| 21:12.33 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 21:13.53 | Shirik | and ccox I literally just woke up :) |
| 21:14.26 | Cairenn | okay, so, admitting my ignorance here ... what is the whole "station" thing all about, anyway? |
| 21:15.01 | ccox | heck if I know |
| 21:15.14 | Cairenn | is it just supposed to be some "radio'ing in to say that you have arrived 'on station' or something" ? |
| 21:15.17 | ccox | my only cultural reference would be "BIll and Ted's Bogus Journey" |
| 21:15.45 | Cairenn | I don't even have that reference, since I never watched the movie |
| 21:15.57 | ccox | you should |
| 21:16.02 | Cairenn | I'll have to ask lunessa next time he's on, he's the one that does it allllll the time |
| 21:19.16 | Shirik | aww |
| 21:19.18 | Shirik | bye ChanServ! |
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| 21:20.55 | Anaral | Yay! I just achieved Higher Learning. |
| 21:22.00 | Cairenn | grats? |
| 21:22.21 | Stew_a | hey, its been a while since i wrote for WoW's UI, whats the 'correct' way of writing OnEvent handlers these days? |
| 21:23.00 | Anaral | Heh. I've been waiting for the last book to spawn for a few weeks now. And I now have a Kirin Tor Familar. :D |
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| 21:23.06 | infobot | ACTION lights some candles for ChanServ |
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| 21:31.20 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: Lunessa has said that it is from the very movie ccox said |
| 21:31.28 | Cairenn | ah, okay |
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| 21:31.43 | zenzelezz | and he'll lament at anyone who doesn't know the movie |
| 21:31.44 | zenzelezz | :-p |
| 21:31.47 | Cairenn | guess I need to watch the movie then |
| 21:31.58 | Cairenn | if I want to get the reference |
| 21:32.07 | zenzelezz | just call him an oldie |
| 21:32.47 | Tekkub | someone should be fired for that |
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| 21:33.41 | zenzelezz | yeah, got to hate it when things go as planned |
| 21:34.33 | Fisker- | F5 |
| 21:34.45 | Tekkub | I meant for the "joke" |
| 21:34.46 | zenzelezz | and people laughed at the picture of the man resembling Gordon Freeman at LHC; now they know better |
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| 21:39.55 | Saeris | Anyone know if the ItemPrice library is still maintained? |
| 21:40.15 | mikma | should be |
| 21:40.46 | mikma | atleast tuller has one |
| 21:43.29 | Uthas | when you join a regular chat channel, an event is thrown, anyone know if an event is thrown when you joined a reserved chat channel such as guild or raid? |
| 21:44.53 | Kirov | I don't think there's a specific event for those. |
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| 21:45.18 | Uthas | hmm....crud |
| 21:45.37 | Kirov | You don't ever really enter or leave them, you just enter / leave the party or guild |
| 21:46.10 | Uthas | i'm trying to send an addon message to guild |
| 21:46.24 | Uthas | i can do it in On_Load |
| 21:46.32 | Uthas | but i want to make sure the channel is active before I send it |
| 21:47.17 | Kirov | To my knowledge, as soon as your character enters the world, you can communicate to the guild |
| 21:52.22 | Iriel | I also believe the correct test for whether the guild channel is active is "am I in a guid" - though whether you have permission to talk is more complex |
| 21:55.11 | zenzelezz | pfft, everyone's in a GUID |
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| 21:55.40 | Uthas | and if I want to do an action upon joining a party or raid, just hook AcceptGrup() ? |
| 21:55.53 | Iriel | There's a party members event |
| 21:56.06 | zenzelezz | always look for events before hooking |
| 21:56.26 | Iriel | and RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE |
| 21:56.39 | Iriel | (PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED is the party one) |
| 21:56.49 | Iriel | just check if you're in a party or raid whenever you receive one of those events |
| 21:56.56 | Uthas | i'm looking to ONLY fired it if you are the person that just joined a group |
| 21:57.02 | Uthas | and those events fire anytime anyone joins |
| 21:57.18 | Iriel | There is no event that selective, but such an event is unnecessary |
| 21:57.20 | Cide | that's why you check member count before and after |
| 21:57.28 | zenzelezz | Uthas: so keep a status variable for it in your addon then |
| 21:57.29 | Iriel | events are there to tell you to CHECK SOMETHING , not necessarily to DO something. |
| 21:58.03 | Iriel | The nice thing with the events is that you also end up doing the right thing when you log in already grouped |
| 21:58.10 | Iriel | which fails horribly if you try hooking the accept logic |
| 21:58.39 | Cide | do note that you can be in a group with member count 1 (in a raid) |
| 21:58.54 | Cide | so check the number of raid members if that's the case |
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| 22:06.33 | Iriel | lo Shirik |
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| 22:36.08 | Mike-N-Go | I am trying to convert text to it's hex for a localization. |
| 22:36.37 | Mike-N-Go | ЧаÑодей ÐÑÑдин means Magister Surdiel in Russian. |
| 22:37.19 | Fisker- | i disagree |
| 22:37.27 | Mike-N-Go | But I do not know if it would encode correctly just putting 'ЧаÑодей ÐÑÑдин' in for the russian localization; where do you translate hex? |
| 22:38.02 | Mike-N-Go | Fisker-: That is what one of my users has said, I dunno if it really is that or not. |
| 22:39.09 | Mike-N-Go | Fisker-: What do you disagree with? The translation or converting the text to the hex? |
| 22:39.18 | Arrowmaster | just save it as utf8 |
| 22:39.27 | Fisker- | nothing Mike-N-Go |
| 22:39.30 | Fisker- | just trollin' |
| 22:39.31 | Fisker- | dey hatin' |
| 22:39.42 | Mike-N-Go | Fisker-: You are rather helpful today. |
| 22:39.47 | Fisker- | :( |
| 22:40.10 | Fisker- | i'm waiting for the PTR |
| 22:42.58 | Shirik | Mike-N-Go: He is always this helpful |
| 22:43.05 | Shirik | Isn't he a great guy? |
| 22:44.05 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 22:44.10 | Fisker- | there's a us realm called "Lightninghoof" |
| 22:45.47 | Corrodias | so? |
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| 23:02.20 | Shirik | Is the single version of personnel really person? |
| 23:02.57 | selckin | plural by definition imo :\ |
| 23:03.30 | Shirik | Yes, I have personnel, and I need "each _____" |
| 23:03.48 | Shirik | meh, I just reworded the sentence |
| 23:05.21 | jnwhiteh | you can't have a personnel |
| 23:05.26 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 23:05.30 | jnwhiteh | its a singular noun |
| 23:05.32 | jnwhiteh | not a plural |
| 23:05.42 | sioraiocht | it's a singular mass noun |
| 23:05.44 | sioraiocht | and yes |
| 23:05.58 | selckin | so each employee :\ |
| 23:05.58 | sioraiocht | each element of personnel is a person |
| 23:06.10 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 23:06.15 | sioraiocht | selckin: depends, technically personnel aren't always employees |
| 23:06.29 | sioraiocht | it's technically a division of persons |
| 23:07.01 | selckin | i'm not even good at my native language /me wanders off |
| 23:08.10 | End | did they give the PTR servers real names? |
| 23:08.22 | Thunder_Child | like john and bob? |
| 23:08.29 | End | no, I mean like Broxigar |
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| 23:24.17 | Shirik | o.o |
| 23:24.24 | Shirik | in word, the red underline is spelling, the green is grammer |
| 23:24.26 | Shirik | grammar* |
| 23:24.28 | Shirik | wtf is blue |
| 23:24.55 | Gnarfoz | "you're stupid" :D |
| 23:25.07 | Shirik | "Word uses wavy blue underlines to indicate possible instances of inconsistent formatting." but all it's doing is saying I should correct hour -> our |
| 23:25.08 | Gnarfoz | dunno, check your settings :D |
| 23:25.20 | Shirik | that's... not inconsistent formatting |
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| 23:33.13 | Kirov | That is inconsistent formatting... not by the user, but by Word itself |
| 23:33.15 | Thunder_Child | it did say possible |
| 23:33.43 | Thunder_Child | a self fufilling prophecy Kirov? |
| 23:35.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Shadowed: dude, Gem Quota's throwing errors on Enchanted Tears |
| 23:40.13 | Gnarfoz | hrm |
| 23:40.21 | Gnarfoz | how do you properly do stuff on logout? >_> |
| 23:40.46 | Gnarfoz | SetCurrentTitle() doesn't seem to stick on either P_L_W or P_L |
| 23:40.47 | Gnarfoz | :| |
| 23:42.01 | Shirik | Want a bad answer? :) |
| 23:42.04 | End | aside from hooking various user initiated logout procedures, you might not be able to |
| 23:42.07 | Shirik | ^ |
| 23:42.09 | Shirik | That was my bad answer |
| 23:42.15 | Shirik | Hook the logout/quit functions :P |
| 23:42.19 | End | Yeah |
| 23:42.30 | End | I think your out of luck if the user Alt-F4's out |
| 23:42.33 | End | you're |
| 23:42.38 | End | I fail at words |
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| 23:53.01 | Gnarfoz | !api GetNumTitles |
| 23:53.01 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'GetNumTitles' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetNumTitles |
| 23:53.54 | Shirik | End: Alt+F4 = ForceQuit() |
| 23:54.59 | End | does it really? |
| 23:55.02 | End | that's interesting |
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| 23:55.20 | End | I always figured it never got to lua space |
| 23:55.54 | End | sure? |
| 23:56.00 | Shirik | It's what I've been told |
| 23:56.03 | Shirik | I've never had a reason to test |
| 23:56.07 | End | I just tested it |
| 23:56.16 | Shirik | How did you test it? |
| 23:56.22 | End | alt-f4 still works if ForceQuit is a dummy function |
| 23:56.31 | Shirik | ah |
| 23:56.50 | End | and if it works when it's a dummy function, that ALSO means hooking won't work |
| 23:56.54 | Shirik | maybe just the X button is ForceQuit |
| 23:57.24 | End | fine, I'll test that too |
| 23:57.26 | Shirik | Or maybe it calls ForceQuit first and then exit? Unlikely but worth testing |
| 23:57.39 | Gnarfoz | alt-f4 doesn't even get to wow, imho :O |
| 23:57.46 | End | it doesn't |
| 23:57.50 | Gnarfoz | at least it shouldn't |
| 23:57.52 | End | well |
| 23:57.54 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:57.56 | End | WoW in general? |
| 23:57.58 | End | it does in general |
| 23:58.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Easy way to break alt+F4 if so |
| 23:58.00 | Gnarfoz | the OS should catch that first |
| 23:58.01 | End | your SVs still save |
| 23:58.09 | End | oh |
| 23:58.10 | End | right |
| 23:58.18 | End | yeah, and your OS sends a message to WoW |
| 23:58.23 | Shirik | Gnarfoz: It's not like the OS quits stuff on its own |
| 23:58.24 | Gnarfoz | the OS should simply be telling wow afterwards "hey, you're going down" |
| 23:58.26 | Shirik | it just posts a WM_QUIT message |
| 23:58.29 | End | ^ |
| 23:58.30 | End | that one |
| 23:58.35 | Gnarfoz | we're all saying the same :D |
| 23:58.38 | Shirik | No |
| 23:58.43 | Shirik | The OS does not control your quit |
| 23:58.50 | Shirik | you can ignore WM_QUIT and you'll still stay alive |
| 23:58.56 | Shirik | the only thing the OS can do is kill you |
| 23:59.06 | Gnarfoz | I always hated that distinction :p |
| 23:59.21 | Gnarfoz | SIGTERM vs. SIGKILL I guess? |
| 23:59.23 | Shirik | yes |
