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| 21:03.20 | Uthas | i'll take that as a yes? |
| 21:03.21 | foxlit | ~asktoask |
| 21:03.22 | infobot | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 21:03.59 | Uthas | hah, i know the schtick, that was more of a poke to see if anyone was around :) |
| 21:04.25 | Uthas | so, it's been a while since I've done any kind of event capturing |
| 21:04.38 | Uthas | much less trying to figure out how to do it through an xml framework |
| 21:04.47 | Kyahx | fuck xml IMO |
| 21:05.10 | Kyahx | I think doing it in lua (particulary for just catching events) is easier |
| 21:05.29 | Uthas | okie doke |
| 21:05.35 | foxlit | Check out http://www.wowwiki.com/Handling_events |
| 21:05.40 | Uthas | did :) |
| 21:05.47 | Uthas | i've already been through wowwiki |
| 21:06.04 | Kyahx | allthou I think wowwiki has a bad example too :P using a giant if/then to send events off |
| 21:06.08 | foxlit | Oh. I wonder what your question, was, though. |
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| 21:06.18 | Uthas | i think there's something fundamental i'm missing |
| 21:06.42 | Uthas | i'm trying to just do anything, hello world, whatever, when the tooltip shows up when the cursor is over an item |
| 21:07.13 | foxlit | The fundamental thing you're missing is that that's not an event. |
| 21:07.26 | Uthas | no event is fired when the tooltip shows up? |
| 21:07.38 | Uthas | is it just a frame being turned visible or something? |
| 21:07.41 | foxlit | Indeed. |
| 21:08.08 | Kyahx | hooksecurescript or something? |
| 21:08.14 | alestane | The closest thing you have to an event is that tooltips are usually triggered from another frame's <OnEnter> handler. |
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| 21:08.33 | Kyahx | couldnt you just hook GameTooltip:OnShow ? |
| 21:08.34 | alestane | But that's not an event in the WoW sense. |
| 21:08.37 | foxlit | You're really better off hooking the relevant method off GameTooltip. |
| 21:08.42 | Kyahx | yea |
| 21:08.53 | Uthas | ok |
| 21:08.53 | foxlit | (you probably don't want OnShow) |
| 21:08.56 | Kyahx | :p |
| 21:09.06 | Uthas | so, I get that conceptually |
| 21:09.21 | nobin | where's Shirik? |
| 21:09.25 | Uthas | i'm a little clueless as to how to hook a method onto an extant frame |
| 21:09.28 | nobin | when was he last on |
| 21:09.30 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#GameTooltip |
| 21:09.40 | Uthas | i checked that out too |
| 21:09.50 | Uthas | it basically says "Here's how to create your own fake tooltip!" |
| 21:10.16 | foxlit | Nah, it gives you a list of methods that, when called on a tooltip, would populate it with specific data |
| 21:10.19 | Uthas | i should probably also mention that i had a root canal 2 days ago and I'm on Vicodin :) |
| 21:11.23 | foxlit | You probably also want http://www.wowwiki.com/API_hooksecurefunc |
| 21:12.30 | Uthas | i think I'm just missing something about how this all works |
| 21:12.50 | Uthas | i move my cursor around |
| 21:12.58 | Uthas | my cursor mouses over an item |
| 21:13.13 | Uthas | some event is triggered to show a frame, the tooltip |
| 21:13.51 | Kyahx | also Uthas: not sure if its usefull but http://kyahx.pastey.net/108704 -- basic skeleton for event handling sans XML |
| 21:14.00 | Kyahx | drycoded, probably wrong :) but the basic idea |
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| 21:15.44 | Uthas | oh, i think this hook secure function might be just what i need |
| 21:16.02 | foxlit | Well thought. |
| 21:16.08 | Kyahx | heh |
| 21:18.15 | Kyahx | I believe OnTooltipSetItem is what you seek |
| 21:19.13 | AbsolutRayne | yawnish |
| 21:19.13 | Duman | wtf, did wowi's download links break? |
| 21:19.38 | Uthas | where did you find that event Kyahx? |
| 21:19.40 | Duman | oh nm |
| 21:19.48 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_Handlers |
| 21:19.50 | Duman | I guess it must be a new upload |
| 21:19.51 | Duman | Sorry, this is not a valid link any more. Its possible that this file was deleted or you followed a bad link. You are being Redirected to our find page. |
| 21:19.51 | Kyahx | http://wowcompares.com/3099551 |
| 21:19.52 | jnwhiteh | http://fukung.net/v/13405/db9d8bcf75d1de9a41b3bda0e1151422.jpg |
| 21:20.02 | Kyahx | Uthas: default code. GameTooltip.xml |
| 21:20.17 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/GameTooltip |
| 21:20.25 | Uthas | ahah! |
| 21:20.37 | Uthas | the gametooltip handlers were just what I was looking for |
| 21:21.44 | jnwhiteh | WowWiki is out of date |
| 21:21.52 | jnwhiteh | the wowprogramming version contains the correct functions |
| 21:22.32 | p3lim | how many arguments does the function in ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter give? |
| 21:22.54 | jnwhiteh | p3lim: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter |
| 21:23.18 | jnwhiteh | the reference is there for a reason =) |
| 21:23.28 | Tekkub | the wiki, out of date |
| 21:23.29 | Tekkub | YOU LIE |
| 21:23.40 | p3lim | yeah but cant find out how many arguments that function can have |
| 21:23.48 | jnwhiteh | .. |
| 21:23.49 | jnwhiteh | .it says |
| 21:23.50 | jnwhiteh | on that page |
| 21:23.53 | jnwhiteh | very very clearly |
| 21:23.59 | p3lim | yeah two |
| 21:24.04 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 21:24.06 | jnwhiteh | it takes one argument |
| 21:24.07 | jnwhiteh | returns two |
| 21:24.09 | jnwhiteh | .. |
| 21:24.11 | jnwhiteh | what is unclear? |
| 21:24.29 | jnwhiteh | I am just trying to understand |
| 21:24.32 | p3lim | BadBoy gets an arg11 from that function |
| 21:24.38 | Lunessa | Always fun to see: http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2009/02/reuters_us_electronics_nano |
| 21:24.48 | jnwhiteh | p3lim: from _what_ function? |
| 21:25.04 | p3lim | ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter('event', func) |
| 21:25.06 | p3lim | that func |
| 21:25.20 | jnwhiteh | That doesn't make sense, that function wont' ever call your code. |
| 21:25.26 | jnwhiteh | if you're saying the FILTER function gets extra args |
| 21:25.37 | p3lim | yeah |
| 21:25.38 | jnwhiteh | that makes sense, depending on the event |
| 21:25.49 | jnwhiteh | what event is it registering for? |
| 21:25.52 | jnwhiteh | specifically |
| 21:26.14 | p3lim | 5 different, CHAT_MSG_ CHANNEL, SAY, YELL, WHISPER, EMOTE |
| 21:26.40 | jnwhiteh | I suspect the filter function gets all of the arguments that the event gets |
| 21:26.46 | jnwhiteh | which is also documented |
| 21:26.58 | jnwhiteh | that's easy to test |
| 21:28.53 | p3lim | trying a print dummy now |
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| 21:30.14 | p3lim | not channel atleast |
| 21:30.16 | jnwhiteh | everything I've tested shows that the filter only gets one argument |
| 21:30.22 | jnwhiteh | as documented on wp |
| 21:30.37 | jnwhiteh | so Im' gonna stick with that for right now |
| 21:30.37 | haste | hi2u globals |
| 21:30.47 | Fisker- | people hate haste |
| 21:30.54 | p3lim | yeah he uses global arguments |
| 21:30.56 | jnwhiteh | ah |
| 21:30.57 | jnwhiteh | then he's wrong |
| 21:30.59 | Hirsute-Home | All the arg values are available to the filterfunc |
| 21:31.02 | jnwhiteh | and should probably be shot =) |
| 21:31.02 | haste | ~Fisker--- |
| 21:31.02 | haste | ! |
| 21:31.09 | p3lim | heh |
| 21:31.09 | jnwhiteh | Hirsute-Home: not according to my testing.. no they are not. |
| 21:31.14 | jnwhiteh | you should NOT be using global arguments |
| 21:31.17 | jnwhiteh | they're deprecated and wrong |
| 21:31.28 | p3lim | ill ask him myself instead |
| 21:31.45 | jnwhiteh | !addon BadBoy |
| 21:31.50 | lua_bot | BadBoy (v. 81960) last updated Mon Sep 22 19:11 (http://is.gd/knF5) |
| 21:32.13 | Hirsute-Home | jnwhiteh: We're talking about AddMessageEventFilter here, right? |
| 21:32.19 | jnwhiteh | Hirsute-Home: yes we are |
| 21:32.27 | jnwhiteh | Hirsute-Home: and the filter function receives exactly one argument |
| 21:32.33 | jnwhiteh | from the testing I've done |
| 21:32.44 | jnwhiteh | You can _ACCESS_ the arguments via their global names |
| 21:32.46 | jnwhiteh | but this should not be done |
| 21:32.52 | Hirsute-Home | Then I can say that at least some of the arg values are available to the filterfunc, because I've used some of them in filter funcs. |
| 21:32.58 | Fisker- | GIEV PTR |
| 21:32.59 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 21:33.15 | Hirsute-Home | Ah, yes, that's how I'm accessing then, via their global names. |
| 21:33.43 | jnwhiteh | well this is bad and should not be done =) |
| 21:33.46 | Hirsute-Home | And regardless of whether or not it's a good thing to do, I haven't found another way to accomplish what I'm trying to do, so *shrug8 |
| 21:33.51 | Hirsute-Home | *shrug* |
| 21:33.55 | jnwhiteh | its easy to accomplish |
| 21:33.57 | jnwhiteh | have an event handler |
| 21:34.02 | Kirov | function MyFilterFunc(...) ? |
| 21:34.04 | jnwhiteh | and when it fires, store your own versions of the variables. |
| 21:34.08 | jnwhiteh | Kirov: nope |
| 21:34.18 | Kyahx | (_,_,_,_,thisIsALocalArg5) ? |
| 21:34.42 | Kyahx | (maybe im not following this conversation) |
| 21:34.49 | jnwhiteh | you're not =) |
| 21:34.56 | Kyahx | Eh, least I tried |
| 21:34.56 | jnwhiteh | but thanks for playing!! |
| 21:35.06 | Kyahx | *back to pie and TV* |
| 21:35.06 | Kirov | It seems like using a filter function would be completely wrong in this situation then. |
| 21:35.07 | Funkeh` | v81960? |
| 21:35.08 | Funkeh` | wtf? |
| 21:35.19 | Funkeh` | querying old wowace svn or something? |
| 21:35.21 | jnwhiteh | Kirov: the filter function is so you dont' taint the chat message filter |
| 21:35.31 | jnwhiteh | Funkeh`: yes, its not updated for the new version yet |
| 21:35.43 | Funkeh` | just query wowi >.> |
| 21:35.48 | jnwhiteh | I dont need to see the code |
| 21:35.50 | jnwhiteh | I know what its doing |
| 21:35.57 | jnwhiteh | and there's a cleaner way to do it |
| 21:36.03 | jnwhiteh | but its not my addon, so I'm not bothered =) |
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| 21:36.12 | Funkeh` | cleaner way to do what? |
| 21:36.26 | Funkeh` | it's my addon so please explain |
| 21:36.28 | jnwhiteh | not use the global args |
| 21:36.36 | Funkeh` | you can't not use global args |
| 21:36.36 | jnwhiteh | you shouldn't be using the globals =) |
| 21:36.40 | jnwhiteh | yes you can |
| 21:36.44 | Funkeh` | no you cant |
| 21:36.51 | Kyahx | *popcorn* |
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| 21:36.53 | Funkeh` | ive tested it extensively, patch after patch |
| 21:36.56 | foxlit | Ladies and gentlemen, we have a standoff |
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| 21:37.06 | Hirsute-Home | jnwhiteh: Elighten me (newcomer to addons) Why shouldn't the globals be used? |
| 21:37.12 | haste | nice nick there Shirik ! |
| 21:37.31 | Dagmar | Because you should keep *your* stuff in *your* scope |
| 21:37.36 | Kyahx | Hirsute-Home: beucase Im going to write a mod that overwrites all of your imprant gobal veriables with "TOFU" |
| 21:37.40 | jnwhiteh | Hirsute-Home: because they are depracated |
| 21:37.43 | Kyahx | and watch your plane crash |
| 21:37.48 | Funkeh` | jnwhiteh, try using local args right upto 11 and see what the result is |
| 21:37.58 | Dagmar | When you go to your gramma's house, does she tell you all about her hemmorhoids? |
| 21:38.03 | Hirsute-Home | jnwhiteh: And replaced by what? |
| 21:38.05 | Dagmar | That's her scope. She needs to know it, you don't. |
| 21:38.08 | jnwhiteh | hold on a second |
| 21:38.12 | jnwhiteh | I've already explained exactly what to do |
| 21:38.16 | Dagmar | Consequently other addons don't need to know most of the things your addon knows |
| 21:38.19 | jnwhiteh | let me show you since its not getting across |
| 21:38.25 | Fisker- | you leave me no option Shirik |
| 21:39.24 | End | is :HookScript a pre-hook? |
| 21:39.32 | nevcairiel | no, post |
| 21:39.49 | Hirsute-Home | Part of the thing I liked about the new chatfiltering is that I *don't* need to create an event handler. Honestly, I thought that was kind of part of the point. |
| 21:40.19 | End | soooo jnwhiteh is saying you have to rely on a certain order that frames get their event handler called? |
| 21:41.19 | jnwhiteh | I'm looking right now |
| 21:41.24 | jnwhiteh | give me a moment |
| 21:41.47 | End | so far, I don't see a "right" way to implement what people want. it's hacky and wrong all around |
| 21:41.57 | jnwhiteh | ideally, the filter function should receive its own arguments |
| 21:42.02 | End | yes it should |
| 21:42.02 | jnwhiteh | since the handler could EASILY pass them along. |
| 21:42.31 | Kirov | Has anyone figured out the order frames receive events in? Is it based on creation time, registration time, or hash (ie: randomish) |
| 21:42.33 | End | someone should ask slouken (or zoot) nicely to do it 8-) does cogwheel still have his suggestion thread? |
| 21:42.40 | Hirsute-Home | I guess I just don't see the difference between creating a handler to make local copies of the globals, and just making local copies of the globals within my filter function. But, hey, I don't claim to be a good programmer. |
| 21:42.42 | jnwhiteh | End: yep |
| 21:42.58 | jnwhiteh | Hirsute-Home: its not about GOOD programming versus bad programming |
| 21:43.06 | jnwhiteh | its us trying to figure out what blizzard deprecates and when and why |
| 21:43.21 | End | the globals might go away suddenly in one patch |
| 21:43.46 | jnwhiteh | in theory, yes |
| 21:43.50 | jnwhiteh | and if we still need them for something, we should ask for them |
| 21:43.55 | jnwhiteh | this is about identifying and fixing problems |
| 21:44.03 | Hirsute-Home | I guess, again, this is my lack of understanding of the system here, but if the globals go away, won't they also be unavailble to my event handler? |
| 21:44.12 | End | no |
| 21:44.12 | jnwhiteh | Hirsute-Home: no, the event handler already gets them |
| 21:44.12 | jnwhiteh | right now |
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| 21:44.17 | Funkeh` | jnwhiteh, Am I supposed to be waiting for something or? |
| 21:44.18 | jnwhiteh | someone can fuck with the global arg1 whenever they want |
| 21:44.20 | jnwhiteh | and make your code not work |
| 21:44.24 | jnwhiteh | Funkeh`: no, I'm writing code. |
| 21:44.25 | End | event handlers used to never recieve args |
| 21:44.28 | jnwhiteh | i mean you can wait if you want |
| 21:44.29 | End | you had to access globals |
| 21:44.38 | jnwhiteh | this was fixed in 2.x |
| 21:44.40 | jnwhiteh | when we asked for it |
| 21:44.41 | End | now the event dispatcher passes the args -and- sets globals |
| 21:44.46 | jnwhiteh | due to the security system |
| 21:45.01 | Hirsute-Home | End: Okay, I'm with you now. |
| 21:45.10 | Funkeh` | It was in 2.x I made the addon, and it was a unique function which required globals to be used, there was a big discussion on wowace about you obviously missed |
| 21:45.37 | Hirsute-Home | So, grabbing them and making locals from the event handler, I'm getting the arguments that the event dispatcher also sets as globals, but I'm not doing it through the globals, is that correct? |
| 21:45.50 | Funkeh` | I haven't tested since 3.0 beta, so if they changed it, I would be delighted for you to prove me wrong so I can finally use locals |
| 21:45.50 | jnwhiteh | Funkeh`: I don't read wowace for sanity reasons. |
| 21:46.03 | jnwhiteh | Funkeh`: what was the problem, the order of event handlers? |
| 21:46.06 | End | I don't read any forums for sanity reasons ;-) |
| 21:46.12 | jnwhiteh | this code works just fine for me |
| 21:46.21 | jnwhiteh | but I suspect, as someone said, its vulnerable to event order problems |
| 21:46.30 | End | yeah, that's what I'm worried about |
| 21:46.33 | Funkeh` | IIRC, If I used local arguments right upto 11, they became corrupt, where as using upto 2, worked fine |
| 21:46.41 | jnwhiteh | Funkeh`: "Corrupt"? |
| 21:46.43 | jnwhiteh | I don't understand |
| 21:46.51 | Tem | that sounds like p3lim talk to me |
| 21:46.51 | Funkeh` | I don't recall, they were blank, or nil, or something |
| 21:46.55 | mikma | i irc for insanity reasons |
| 21:47.07 | End | mikma: touche |
| 21:47.16 | Funkeh` | Tem, I've been coding a lot longer than p3lim please hush :) |
| 21:47.33 | p3lim | Im still a noob |
| 21:48.37 | p3lim | Funkeh`: just tested myself, they were nil |
| 21:48.45 | Funkeh` | thanks p3lim |
| 21:48.47 | jnwhiteh | its non-deterministic |
| 21:48.50 | jnwhiteh | as End said |
| 21:48.54 | jnwhiteh | so we ask Blizzard to pass them |
| 21:48.59 | p3lim | yeah |
| 21:49.10 | jnwhiteh | filter, newarg1 = filterFunc(arg1); |
| 21:49.15 | jnwhiteh | change that to filter, newarg1 = filterFunc(...); |
| 21:49.15 | mikma | p3lim: trust me, we know you as noob too |
| 21:49.18 | jnwhiteh | suprise, it works! |
| 21:49.22 | p3lim | mikma: <3 |
| 21:49.25 | jnwhiteh | We shouldn't be using hacks and not reporting them |
| 21:49.30 | jnwhiteh | I don't care how much you discuss it on wowace |
| 21:49.37 | jnwhiteh | there are easy ways to get things "fixed" so they work as intended |
| 21:49.48 | Funkeh` | I'm in EU, I ask people to report them, they post, they are ignored |
| 21:49.52 | Funkeh` | I can't wave a wand |
| 21:50.00 | jnwhiteh | Funkeh`: You know for a fact thats not true |
| 21:50.01 | p3lim | Same here |
| 21:50.03 | mikma | i know |
| 21:50.07 | jnwhiteh | I've brought stuff to Blizzard for you AND had it fixed |
| 21:50.11 | jnwhiteh | I'm not talking about the wow forums |
| 21:50.18 | jnwhiteh | the suggestions thread gets read |
| 21:50.18 | p3lim | They _do_ read everything, atleast they say so |
| 21:50.29 | jnwhiteh | and things do get fixed |
| 21:50.48 | Funkeh` | jnwhiteh, But I did have this reported somewhere around 2.3/2.4 |
| 21:50.52 | mikma | funkeh`: you need to do a "report-a-spam" site! |
| 21:50.58 | p3lim | And yeah, does the stuff posted in that forum over at wowi actually get to Blizzard? |
| 21:50.59 | Funkeh` | a what? |
| 21:51.31 | foxlit | Malygos, we hardly knew you :( |
| 21:51.32 | Kirov | Blizzard tries to read everything, but the UI forum doesn't have a dedicated community manager, not that it would batter. |
| 21:51.33 | End | I don't think the globals weren't actually considered depreciated until 3.0, so they might have decided not to worry about it initially |
| 21:51.36 | Kirov | matter |
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| 21:51.49 | Tem | the globals were deprecated in 2.0 |
| 21:51.55 | End | were they? ok, then |
| 21:52.00 | Funkeh` | jnwhiteh, well if you're going to report it, please also report the whole event being passed 7 times to the function thing because of 7 chat frames |
| 21:52.00 | Tem | if it were up to me, they would have disappeared in 3.0 |
| 21:52.02 | p3lim | mikma: Indeed, like the new localization feature on wowace, you can submit bugs and they get feeded into the Lua automaticly or something |
| 21:52.09 | End | I guess it was just that Blizzard was using the globals until 3.0 :P |
| 21:52.20 | p3lim | s/localizations/bugs |
| 21:52.20 | End | and by Blizzard I mean the FrameXML |
| 21:52.23 | Tem | Funkeh`, that's how its SUPPOSED to work |
| 21:52.25 | Kirov | The people who it's important read the UI forums are the same people who are dedicated to implementing the UI. I'd rather they be spending their time doing that. |
| 21:52.33 | Tem | you get the ability to filter the event PER frame |
| 21:52.38 | Tem | that's the point |
| 21:52.47 | foxlit | Tem: but do you get to know which frame you're filtering it for? |
| 21:52.50 | jnwhiteh | Tem: but you don't get access to the frame |
| 21:52.50 | Funkeh` | Tem, yet you can't distinguish which frame sent it? |
| 21:52.52 | jnwhiteh | you have to use this |
| 21:52.59 | jnwhiteh | which is yet another problem |
| 21:53.01 | foxlit | which is one of those clearly evil globals. |
| 21:53.06 | Tem | *shrug* just add that as well |
| 21:53.15 | jnwhiteh | well thats a backwards compat breaking change |
| 21:53.16 | foxlit | So, in short, it's not a feature |
| 21:53.19 | jnwhiteh | so good luck seeing it now :P |
| 21:53.28 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 21:53.29 | Tem | jnwhiteh, what makes you think I give half a damn about compat changes? |
| 21:53.35 | jnwhiteh | you don't :P |
| 21:53.36 | jnwhiteh | they do |
| 21:53.51 | End | they do sometimes ;-) |
| 21:53.55 | Tem | they don't have to |
| 21:54.01 | Tem | nothing in the ui uses these functions |
| 21:54.07 | Tem | so they only break addons |
| 21:54.11 | End | if they're completely rewriting an api they'll break it |
| 21:54.19 | Tem | players already think blizzard exists to break addons so they aren't losing anything |
| 21:54.27 | foxlit | End: unless you provide a wrapper. |
| 21:54.27 | mikma | lol |
| 21:54.41 | mikma | crapper |
| 21:54.53 | Tem | foxlit, providing a wrapper just perpetuates the old API at the cost of doing things weirdly |
| 21:54.54 | End | They don't. We can write a wrapper though, true. |
| 21:55.05 | End | although |
| 21:55.20 | End | instead of spending our time writing wrappers, I'd rather spend it updating the code for the new api :P |
| 21:55.34 | Tem | its' not like it would take a lot of effort |
| 21:55.50 | Tem | add an arg to your filterfunc and you're done |
| 21:56.12 | Funkeh` | So tell me jnwhiteh, I'm going to assume you've seen my code since you know it uses globals. You're telling me there's a special way I can use locals without the args returning nil? |
| 21:56.20 | Kyahx | Quick question: hooksecurefunc is obviously for functions -- but can you hook a script function? |
| 21:56.25 | End | yeah |
| 21:56.26 | jnwhiteh | no, and stop being an ass |
| 21:56.27 | End | :HookScript |
| 21:56.36 | jnwhiteh | I already said there is an issue with non-determinism |
| 21:56.44 | jnwhiteh | and that the issue is a problem with the filter system and needs to be reported. |
| 21:56.49 | Funkeh` | jnwhiteh, I'm not being an ass, I've been waiting to change it since what feels like forever |
| 21:56.53 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 21:56.57 | jnwhiteh | Understood, i bet it feels dirty |
| 21:57.07 | End | ugh, the forums are acting all broken to me |
| 21:57.34 | End | :P |
| 21:57.42 | Funkeh` | Yes, but your first judgement of my "coding" practises is the main reason why I want to change it. It seems like my entire coding practice which has been effcient for a very long time suddenly came under attack because of something outbound my control |
| 21:57.53 | Funkeh` | So forgive what may have seemed hostile intent to begin with |
| 21:57.56 | Kirov | There's an exceedingly simple fix for this that it seems like no one thought of. |
| 21:58.08 | p3lim | cant we just rewrite the handler? |
| 21:58.10 | Kyahx | Funkeh`: write better code plz thx <3 |
| 21:58.15 | Funkeh` | :/ |
| 21:58.21 | p3lim | that way we can pass as many arguments we wish |
| 21:58.22 | Kyahx | hehe |
| 21:58.23 | jnwhiteh | Funkeh`: I did not judge your coding practices. I said what you are doing should not be done and I am correct. |
| 21:58.29 | mikma | p3lim: they can, you cant |
| 21:58.32 | jnwhiteh | You also correctly stated that you have no other way to do it, and I agree with you |
| 21:58.35 | jnwhiteh | so I've reported the issue |
| 21:58.40 | jnwhiteh | now, wasn't that fun? |
| 21:58.42 | Funkeh` | jnwhiteh, thanks! |
| 21:58.42 | p3lim | hm maybe its hardcoded into c |
| 21:58.43 | Kirov | hook every frames' event handler to set your own locals so there's only a 1 : 1000000 chance you won't have the correct locals! |
| 21:58.59 | jnwhiteh | I'm not saying you are an idiot, or that you did anything wrong.. I'm just saying what you are doing should not be done in any case.. and it indicates a problem int he default user interface if you need to. |
| 21:59.00 | End | Kirov: you're a silly man |
| 21:59.12 | Kirov | Silly, but effective. |
| 21:59.15 | Funkeh` | jnwhiteh, I agree |
| 21:59.19 | jnwhiteh | A simple change (albeit one that breaks compat) fixes the issue |
| 21:59.26 | jnwhiteh | and should have been fixed when the filter system was introduced initially |
| 21:59.44 | Funkeh` | I was hoping the whole switch from global to local would fix it |
| 21:59.45 | Tem | I hooked every frame's event handlers once |
| 21:59.48 | Tem | it was good times |
| 21:59.48 | Funkeh` | I can't understand why not |
| 21:59.59 | Tem | people fucking _loved_ the addon that did it, too |
| 22:00.10 | p3lim | what ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter is doing, aint that just filtering ChatFrameX_AddMessage? |
| 22:00.16 | End | yeah, but they loved it because it made the game load faster |
| 22:00.25 | End | well, load new zones |
| 22:01.07 | Tem | I'm honestly surprized you knew what I was talking about |
| 22:01.13 | Funkeh` | jnwhiteh, Not sure if you made a post or PMd or something. If you get any response I'd appreciate notification of any reply |
| 22:01.32 | Kirov | oh yeah, that addon |
| 22:01.58 | Lunessa | Tem: Good times indeed. Hell, I had it installed. :P |
| 22:01.59 | Kirov | Tem - You make the best worst addons ever! |
| 22:02.12 | Tem | Kirov, lol |
| 22:02.23 | End | Tem: I have a good memory...sometimes :P |
| 22:02.57 | Funkeh` | Tem, a badly coded addon doesn't make peole hate it.. |
| 22:03.05 | Funkeh` | just look at history :p |
| 22:03.13 | Lunessa | cf: QuestHelper |
| 22:03.19 | Funkeh` | so many examples if I had a peny for every one.. |
| 22:03.37 | Lunessa | You could buy me a soda. :P |
| 22:03.40 | Tem | well, I'm too harsh on Ace2 |
| 22:03.48 | Tem | it's not necesarily bad coding |
| 22:03.53 | Tem | it's just really bad design decisions |
| 22:04.09 | Funkeh` | But to the point, I'll fix BadBoy when they fix it, until then, I'm planning on keeping it the no1 spam filtering addon :) None of that bloated shit like spammenot and spamsentry |
| 22:04.25 | Funkeh` | (imo) |
| 22:05.02 | Kyahx | Lunessa: I HATE QuestHelper from a coders standpoint...but its so useful from a players perspective |
| 22:05.04 | Kyahx | :'( |
| 22:05.56 | Lunessa | Kyahx: *nod* It really, really, really needs a ground-up code overhaul, but I don't think anyone is actually doing it. |
| 22:06.22 | Kyahx | oh well |
| 22:06.28 | Kirov | complex systems tend to have that issue |
| 22:06.38 | Uthas | ok |
| 22:06.45 | Uthas | i have successfully hooked the script |
| 22:06.53 | Uthas | and have it printing out the item names |
| 22:07.29 | Uthas | however, the script i'm hooking seems to fire a whole crapload of times as you have your mouse hanging over an item |
| 22:07.49 | Kirov | Uthas - yes |
| 22:07.54 | Uthas | since I'm going to be doing some function work based on this, I don't want to be calling my function a thousand times while someone looks at an item |
| 22:08.10 | Kirov | Uthas - What exactly are you doing? |
| 22:08.29 | Uthas | so, the idea is thus: |
| 22:08.36 | End | I'm not entirely sure what you're doing, but since you're doing something with items?, perhaps you could check to see if its a different item |
| 22:08.42 | Kirov | Because there are easy throttling methods to prevent your code from being afflicted by wow coding decisions. |
| 22:08.53 | Lunessa | http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/funny-graphs-dark-tunnel.gif |
| 22:09.06 | Uthas | the mod I am working on is thus: |
| 22:09.14 | Uthas | people set up a "wishlist" of items |
| 22:09.41 | Uthas | everyone on the same "wishlist" is subscribed to a hidden channel named after the list |
| 22:09.46 | Uthas | to exchange wishlist info |
| 22:09.57 | Uthas | when you mouse over an item on someone's wishlist |
| 22:10.10 | Uthas | it pops a tooltip listing the people who have wishlisted the item |
| 22:11.02 | Uthas | so, I don't want to be sitting there checking the wishlist a thousand times while someone is looking at an item and hosing their performance |
| 22:11.50 | Kirov | Is this a second tooltip, or something appending to the existing tooltip? |
| 22:11.53 | Kyahx | So your going about this wrong then -- you want to be checking character's bags |
| 22:12.08 | Kyahx | oh wait -- n/m. I read good |
| 22:12.13 | Uthas | hahahaha |
| 22:12.37 | Uthas | i don't care where the item is - in a loot windown, in someone's bags, in the mailbox, whatever |
| 22:12.53 | Uthas | and the tooltip bit of it is inconsequential Kirov |
| 22:13.07 | Uthas | I can append or make my own, 6 in 1, half dozen in the other |
| 22:13.14 | Kirov | Well, it's not. |
| 22:13.23 | Uthas | i'll probably make my own, since I want people to be able to subscribe to multiple wishlists |
| 22:13.28 | Kyahx | I'd take a look at some simple mod that appends item level or something -- and reverse engineer that. |
| 22:13.47 | Kirov | Each time the OnTooltip___ scripts fire, the GameTooltip has been completely cleared and redrawn. |
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| 22:13.51 | Kyahx | allthou I think your major hurdle is going to be actually managing the wishlist -- not adding the data to a tooltip |
| 22:14.01 | Tem | Kirov, that's not true |
| 22:14.12 | Tem | OnTooltipSetItem occurs twice for recipies |
| 22:14.17 | Tem | and the tooltip isn't cleared in between |
| 22:14.26 | Hirsute-Home | Heh. "bloated" is such a subjective term. |
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| 22:14.50 | Kirov | Tem - ok, so not always, but there's no easy way to know if it hasn't or not, is there? |
| 22:14.56 | Hirsute-Home | <--Prefers SpamSentry to anything else I've tried, including BadBoys. Your bloat is my feature-completeness. |
| 22:14.57 | Uthas | well, right now I'm hooking OnTooltipSetItem, and it's firing tons of times |
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| 22:15.43 | Tem | Kirov, I'm not sure what you mean |
| 22:16.52 | Kirov | Uthas - what you're seeing is when you hover over any kind of item / action button it refreshes the tooltip every .1 seconds so that the tooltip's cooldown (if the item / spell / etc) is update if there's one to display. |
| 22:17.27 | Uthas | is there a way to throttle that so my function is only called the first time the tooltip is updated? |
| 22:17.32 | Tem | no |
| 22:17.38 | Tem | cache the information |
| 22:18.42 | Uthas | just cache the info and check the cache to see if I have to step through the function again? |
| 22:19.01 | Kirov | aha |
| 22:19.03 | Kirov | OnTooltipCleared |
| 22:19.46 | Uthas | is that a better function to hook or something? |
| 22:19.56 | Kirov | Assuming that's consistent, you should be able to create your own info, cache it (as Tem Suggested) until you see a OnTooltipCleared |
| 22:19.58 | mikma | i found out a way of getting the info how much "health" wg towers and walls have left! GameTooltipStatusBar -values go go |
| 22:20.27 | Kirov | mikma - I used to get fd hunters' health from their tooltips. :) |
| 22:20.33 | Uthas | sounds reasonable |
| 22:21.00 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/replacing-world-landmarks-with |
| 22:21.55 | End | mikma: what's the max health usually look like? |
| 22:22.54 | mikma | end: 1 =/ |
| 22:23.07 | mikma | in towers that is |
| 22:23.15 | End | weird |
| 22:23.19 | mikma | players return their current hp |
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| 22:27.48 | mikma | local min,max = GameTooltipStatusBar:GetMinMaxValue(); local current = GameTooltipStatusBar:GetValue(); print(current/max*100) ... =) |
| 22:28.27 | mikma | of course, floor is good ^^ |
| 22:28.44 | zenzelezz | a bit tacky, most prefer the bed |
| 22:28.45 | foxlit | not as good as the ceiling. |
| 22:29.10 | zenzelezz | ceiling takes too much effort |
| 22:29.27 | foxlit | but think of all the potential you'll have! |
| 22:29.38 | zenzelezz | true |
| 22:30.10 | mikma | the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire |
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| 22:30.34 | Thunder_Child | sylvanaar, ping |
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| 22:34.26 | zenzelezz | so, running from Valiance Keep to Icecrown Citadel was a lot less dangerous than I had expected |
| 22:34.57 | zenzelezz | 28 deaths, with some cunning use of spirit resurrection. Almost dinged twice |
| 22:36.37 | Tem | zenzelezz, what level are you? |
| 22:37.03 | zenzelezz | 3 now. Was 2 |
| 22:37.10 | Uthas | hahahahaha |
| 22:41.11 | Uthas | hmmm |
| 22:41.15 | Uthas | it's still being called twice |
| 22:41.17 | Uthas | weird |
| 22:56.20 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: That's great. Sounds like you should have FRAPS'ed it and posted it on the web. |
| 22:56.53 | Lunessa | Did you pick up all the flight points along the way? |
| 22:59.06 | Adys | so this checksum is "DKQQGMUKWJQN7AKSBXPHU2RSZTK6ERUK" |
| 22:59.13 | Adys | and the DKQQ part made me laugh =\ |
| 22:59.30 | Thunder_Child | with a GM after it |
| 22:59.46 | Adys | yeah and he's obviously from the UK |
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| 23:33.44 | Uthas | simple lua question |
| 23:33.48 | Uthas | nested table |
| 23:33.58 | Uthas | syntax for looping through using pairs |
| 23:35.20 | Kirov | for k, v in pairs(table) do |
| 23:35.20 | Kirov | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.20 | Kirov | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.57 | Kirov | how deep, and is this a mixed table? |
| 23:36.46 | Uthas | Tablename[WishlistName][ItemName] = date(); |
| 23:36.48 | Uthas | basically |
| 23:36.58 | Uthas | all strings |
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| 23:38.18 | Kirov | for wishlist, wishlisttable in pairs(Tablename) do |
| 23:38.18 | Kirov | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.18 | Kirov | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.54 | Kirov | really though, you should be doing something like |
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| 23:39.28 | Kirov | for wishlist, wishlistTable in pairs(tableName) do |
| 23:39.28 | Kirov | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.39 | Uthas | well |
| 23:39.48 | Uthas | in this case I have the wishlist someone is trying to search |
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| 23:40.26 | Uthas | i was trying "for itemname, dateadded in pairs (wishlisttable[wishlist]) do |
| 23:40.31 | Uthas | but it seems to be failing |
| 23:40.53 | Kirov | can you pasty a working example? |
| 23:41.14 | Kirov | (working :: current attempt) |
| 23:43.49 | Uthas | for ListItem, dateAdded in pairs(MyWishList[WishListName]) do |
| 23:44.34 | Kirov | I need to see the rest of your data structure |
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| 23:45.35 | Kirov | go to http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ |
| 23:45.35 | Kirov | copy everything you currently have |
| 23:45.35 | Kirov | paste in to the window |
| 23:46.03 | Kirov | (and please select Lua as the language) |
| 23:47.25 | Uthas | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/108717 |
| 23:49.28 | Kirov | And what are you seeing happening? |
| 23:52.13 | Uthas | bad argument to pairs |
| 23:52.17 | Uthas | table expected, got nil |
| 23:52.18 | Uthas | hmmm |
| 23:52.27 | Uthas | *handsmackforehead* |
| 23:53.03 | Uthas | this wasn't nested when i wrote this to start with |
| 23:53.04 | Kirov | line 6 |
| 23:53.16 | Uthas | and was initializing the list elsewhere |
| 23:53.23 | Uthas | the nested part isn't initialized |
| 23:53.57 | Uthas | just fixed that too |
| 23:54.15 | Uthas | need to check if that's a table |
| 23:59.59 | Movix | was can the reason that DTFRAMESTACK is not seeing a frame. I have a portion of my screen the mouse is not responding to move the cam, and dtframestack did not see any frame there |
