| 00:06.40 | Tifi | omfg |
| 00:06.54 | Tifi | i just broke my entire UI by using setfenv(0) |
| 00:07.09 | Tifi | including the savedvars |
| 00:07.30 | Corrodias | hope you had a backup, chuckles. |
| 00:08.30 | Tifi | i thought it would only affect file scope -.- |
| 00:08.31 | bleeter | what is it with SV's .bak anyways, and why are they... not really much of a .bak? |
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| 00:09.13 | cbreak | why not? |
| 00:09.13 | bleeter | and is there a way to force an update of .bak's to the 'most recent' .lua |
| 00:09.44 | cbreak | I am sure you could write a shell script for it |
| 00:10.09 | p3lim | where is the function SecondsToTimeAbbrev made? in what lua file of blizzard's |
| 00:10.34 | cbreak | there's that windows thing |
| 00:10.37 | cbreak | vbs |
| 00:10.52 | cbreak | and batch |
| 00:11.00 | Corrodias | VB script, eh. have fun! |
| 00:11.12 | cbreak | I wrote one last week. that language sucks |
| 00:11.17 | Tifi | i think they don't write the .bak files anymore |
| 00:11.18 | cbreak | (for something else) |
| 00:11.27 | bleeter | VB for Win32, AS for OSX and random shells for everything else. |
| 00:11.55 | bleeter | winning combo, that... would be easier if .bak were something other than 'how they looked at very first install' or whatever it really is |
| 00:11.55 | cbreak | I use sh for osx... |
| 00:12.09 | Tifi | my latest .bak savedvar is from 01/24/09 |
| 00:12.54 | Kirov | I never really figured out when .bak files get written |
| 00:13.18 | foxlit | Tifi: that's the date you installed your latest addon? :) |
| 00:14.00 | cbreak | seems my bak files are from march |
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| 00:15.32 | bleeter | Kirov: I've always suspected moon phase |
| 00:16.09 | Kirov | bleeter - sadly, that seems more accurate than my other guesses. |
| 00:16.19 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~ |
| 00:16.20 | purl | You know, this got old a long time ago. |
| 00:16.23 | Shirik | I know |
| 00:16.26 | Shirik | but I still love you |
| 00:16.31 | Tekkub | bah I need to streamline the Thor chain and the Frosthold quests together somehow |
| 00:16.50 | Tekkub | fucking Thor chain is back and forth and back and forth and back and forth across the damn zone |
| 00:17.10 | Wobin | And this differs from any other chain in the game? |
| 00:17.21 | Kirov | Tekkub - use Thor's hammer to fly across. duh |
| 00:17.28 | Shirik | VMs should be able to load OS from another partition if it's not mounted |
| 00:17.47 | Tekkub | dawhowha? |
| 00:17.49 | Kirov | http://www.immortalthor.net/fanart-flyingThor_unknown.gif |
| 00:18.21 | Tekkub | oh I thought you were saying I missed a flight point or some other freebie travle |
| 00:18.44 | cbreak | VMWare can do that |
| 00:18.51 | bleeter | Tekkub: I was following TG for the zone on my first two times through, from memory third and fourth I kinda followed it but just ended up doing 'circles' around the zone to stop the running back and forward. |
| 00:18.54 | Shirik | it can, cbreak? |
| 00:19.05 | cbreak | It's in the feature list of VMWare Fusion |
| 00:19.07 | bleeter | Tekkub: kinda felt like it took me longer that way.. so I dunno if it could be sped up much |
| 00:19.17 | cbreak | and since Fusion is just a spinoff of the normal VMWare |
| 00:19.28 | cbreak | I never tried it though |
| 00:20.07 | Tekkub | well my thought was to do one "circuit" of frosthold quests each time you fly back up to thor there |
| 00:20.24 | Tekkub | since you could fly from Nipple to Frosthold, turn in, then fly up to thor |
| 00:23.43 | bleeter | Tekkub: my big problem when I went through was that my gatherers would get distracted by titanium and thus start doing some stuff out of order hehe |
| 00:24.29 | bleeter | or by the large number of rhinos to skin, that was a big time sink too ;) |
| 00:29.35 | amro | bleeter: so much for doing the D.E.H.T.A. quests |
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| 00:34.02 | Shirik | ..... |
| 00:34.06 | Shirik | windows defender |
| 00:34.08 | Shirik | I will destroy you |
| 00:34.22 | amro | sudo killall windefender |
| 00:34.34 | Shirik | It deleted my EICAR file without even asking |
| 00:34.44 | Shirik | If that were an important file I'd be pissed |
| 00:35.05 | Shirik | ... |
| 00:35.08 | Shirik | EICAR Test File |
| 00:35.10 | Shirik | Description: |
| 00:35.10 | Shirik | This program changes various computer settings. |
| 00:35.14 | Shirik | .... no |
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| 00:39.11 | Shirik | Wow |
| 00:39.15 | Shirik | They just cancelled the daytona 500 |
| 00:39.16 | Shirik | wtf |
| 00:39.26 | Shirik | well "cancelled" might not be the right word |
| 00:39.26 | Shirik | but ended |
| 00:40.16 | NightHawkTheSane | ended, permanently? |
| 00:40.26 | amro | prematurely I'd guess |
| 00:40.39 | Shirik | yes prematurely |
| 00:40.43 | Shirik | 50 laps to go and it's over |
| 00:40.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ah |
| 00:40.50 | Shirik | that's like, what, 100 miles |
| 00:40.54 | Kirov | Heh, I've been hearing about this for a while. |
| 00:41.10 | NightHawkTheSane | out of idle curiosity, why? |
| 00:41.12 | Shirik | Yeah, I'm right next to the speedway and I don't pay attention :) |
| 00:41.15 | Shirik | rain, NightHawkTheSane |
| 00:41.30 | NightHawkTheSane | ah |
| 00:41.45 | Shirik | they're a bunch of whimps if you ask me |
| 00:41.47 | Shirik | rain adds challenge |
| 00:41.49 | Shirik | go for it |
| 00:42.51 | Kirov | Another reason why F1 is better than NASCAR |
| 00:46.41 | Shirik | I like how if you put "return" somewhere where it's illegal in Java |
| 00:46.48 | Shirik | not only does it say "return outside method" |
| 00:46.54 | Shirik | it also says "unreachable statement" for the next line |
| 00:47.09 | Shirik | I think the logical "continuation" option would be to ignore the return statement >.> |
| 00:50.40 | Thrae | What are the extra bonuses from professions in 3.0? I saw I got +30 Stamina from my mining. |
| 00:51.00 | Shirik | Alchemy: Double duration for those that you know |
| 00:51.06 | Shirik | Tailoring: Extra cloth pickups |
| 00:51.14 | Shirik | I only know mine, sorry :( |
| 00:51.55 | [dRaCo] | extra crit for skinning |
| 00:51.57 | Kirov | skinning - +2% crit |
| 00:52.01 | Wobin | herbing is the HoT |
| 00:52.02 | Kirov | herb + heal |
| 00:52.17 | Kirov | That heal has saved my ass a lot |
| 00:52.23 | Wobin | this ^ |
| 00:52.42 | Kirov | Engineering got ... jack shit |
| 00:52.52 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:52.54 | Wobin | Engineering -always- has gotten jack shit |
| 00:53.00 | p3lim | Replaced tempenchant "buff" frames with this |
| 00:53.01 | p3lim | http://wow-p3lim.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/Inomena/TempEnchant.lua |
| 00:53.04 | Kirov | Wait, no, that's wrong. |
| 00:53.22 | Kirov | Engineering got mounts! ... that anyone can use. |
| 00:53.36 | Wobin | Really? The bike is bou? |
| 00:53.53 | Kirov | Yep |
| 00:53.55 | Tifi | yea, but the helicopter is still eng only |
| 00:53.56 | Wobin | crazy |
| 00:54.10 | Wobin | how much would you charge to make one of those =P |
| 00:54.10 | Kirov | But the roflcopter is pre-3.0 |
| 00:54.28 | Kirov | Wobin - they're about $12k in mats |
| 00:54.58 | amro | you could get a decent SUV for less |
| 00:55.07 | Wobin | so true |
| 00:55.10 | Kirov | heh |
| 00:55.18 | [dRaCo] | engineering gets parachute cloak enchant, rocket boot enchant and haste for gloves |
| 00:55.19 | Shirik | $12k? |
| 00:55.27 | Shirik | You did a gold-to-USD conversion? |
| 00:55.29 | [dRaCo] | the glove thingy is pretty cool for DDs |
| 00:55.29 | Kirov | $~g |
| 00:55.32 | Shirik | oh |
| 00:55.35 | Shirik | about to say :P |
| 00:55.38 | Tifi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2_ueohYRhU ? |
| 00:55.48 | Tekkub | "decent SUV" I lol'd |
| 00:57.30 | Kirov | Tifi - Personally I'd take a Gnomish VTOL Hovermamoth over a Ford F150 |
| 00:57.53 | Wobin | hovermammoth ^^ |
| 00:58.16 | Tekkub | hovermammoth would be goblin engineering |
| 00:58.19 | Wobin | I can see the mammoth with a [Light Feather] in his trunk ala Dumbo |
| 00:58.28 | Tekkub | gnomes don't strap rockets to things |
| 00:58.32 | Wobin | and four Rocket Boots |
| 00:58.39 | Tekkub | now, a mechomammoth, that'd be gnomish |
| 00:58.57 | Thrae | Looks like engineers can give On Use to items |
| 00:59.01 | Wobin | The mats for that would exceed the GNP of Icecrown |
| 00:59.38 | Tekkub | "can give On Use"? |
| 01:00.06 | [dRaCo] | enchants with "on use" effects |
| 01:00.17 | [dRaCo] | parachute, rocket boots and haste gloves |
| 01:00.23 | [dRaCo] | as mentioned above :P |
| 01:00.29 | Tekkub | oh, yea the engy toys were changed into "enchants" so you can put em on good gear :P |
| 01:01.06 | Tekkub | now, applying parachute to a mammoth would rock |
| 01:01.17 | Tekkub | glider :) |
| 01:01.33 | Kirov | You can slow fall + water walk with a mammoth, just not the travelers ones though. |
| 01:01.39 | Shirik | glider is illegal |
| 01:01.43 | Shirik | gah Tekkub |
| 01:01.43 | Kirov | Actually, levitate would work. |
| 01:01.43 | Shirik | so mean |
| 01:01.48 | Tekkub | gnomish mammoglider |
| 01:03.04 | amro | Kirov: traveler's doesn't take fall damage at least |
| 01:04.25 | Kirov | amro - motorcycle + opposing faction elders = win |
| 01:04.54 | Tekkub | yea I saw a hordie biking through sexodar last night, it was cute |
| 01:09.20 | Tem | why? |
| 01:09.28 | Tem | what does the vehicle grant you? |
| 01:09.40 | Tem | (for driving through opposite faction cities) |
| 01:10.32 | Tem | Kirov, ^ |
| 01:11.07 | Tekkub | must everything you do by motivated by reward? |
| 01:11.12 | NightHawkTheSane | this is neat, http://holy-web.blogspot.com/2009/02/ladybug-takeoff-in-5000-frames-per.html |
| 01:12.11 | Tem | Tekkub, yes |
| 01:13.11 | Kirov | Tem - vehicles can't be CCed |
| 01:13.19 | Tem | aaah |
| 01:13.25 | Kirov | So city guards can't stun you / net you |
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| 01:13.45 | Tem | that seems like a rather large oversight |
| 01:14.04 | Tem | Zootfizzle, zomg fix |
| 01:17.01 | Ylvis | Anyone got a good example of an addon that scans tooltips for class restrictions? Or something similar? |
| 01:17.44 | Tekkub | just look for red text |
| 01:18.23 | Ylvis | Would that work even if the player can use it, wouldnt it be white? |
| 01:18.41 | Tekkub | if the play can use it why do you care about the restrictions |
| 01:20.40 | Ylvis | Cause I'm trying to make a roll addon that restricts accepted incoming rolls for items like tokens, and VoA drops. |
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| 01:22.05 | Ylvis | So I basicly just want to scan the item for restrictions, and make a table with the classes the item is restricted to. |
| 01:22.54 | Tekkub | I'd just hardcode your restricted itemids, they're few and far between, not worth wasting time scanning tooltips |
| 01:24.34 | Ylvis | That's true. |
| 01:29.04 | Shirik | I swear, IT throttles anything that doesn't connect to www.something |
| 01:29.14 | Shirik | the only pages that are ever slow are when I don't put www in there |
| 01:29.31 | Tekkub | www is so useless too |
| 01:29.36 | Shirik | yes |
| 01:29.57 | Tekkub | http://no-www.org/ |
| 01:30.21 | Kirov | but how will I know it's the world wide web? |
| 01:30.28 | Tekkub | http? |
| 01:30.40 | Tekkub | wait that's all technical you shouldn't know what it means |
| 01:31.39 | Shirik | my site is no-www compliant :) |
| 01:31.41 | Kirov | hyper text transfer protical does not mean it's on the world wide web! |
| 01:31.49 | Shirik | heresiarchguild.com and www.heresiarchguild.com both work :) |
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| 01:33.18 | Shirik | what's the 3 classes though? |
| 01:33.21 | Shirik | I know I'm not class B |
| 01:33.39 | Tekkub | you're low-class :P |
| 01:33.51 | Shirik | ah, I'm class A |
| 01:34.42 | Shirik | http://no-www.org/verify.php?u=heresiarchguild.com |
| 01:36.32 | Shirik | that's a fun site Tekkub :) |
| 01:36.49 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 01:36.56 | Arrowmaster | wow any site that fails class A is a failure of a site anyway |
| 01:38.35 | Shirik | lol, I expected www.no-www.org to say something mean at me |
| 01:38.41 | Shirik | their site is only class B! |
| 01:47.57 | Arrowmaster | that site kinda fails though |
| 01:48.04 | Iriel | The slight flaw in their argument is invoking mail |
| 01:48.16 | Iriel | Mail has its own DNS address type, the web doesn't |
| 01:48.26 | Arrowmaster | javascript links in the href instead of overriding with onclick if javascript is enabled |
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| 01:48.48 | Tekkub | aw what's wrong with that? |
| 01:48.56 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: that's the preferred way to me if you have no intention of supporting non-javascript browsers |
| 01:49.21 | Arrowmaster | and people that do that can diaf |
| 01:49.40 | Arrowmaster | luckly noscript detects them and changes them to working links |
| 01:51.40 | Shirik | This song is awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYsmdAy5BLM |
| 01:52.12 | Arrowmaster | and its in html 4.01 and most attribute values are unquoted, which is valid in 4.01 but still fugly |
| 01:52.27 | Shirik | isn't that only valid 4.01 transitional? |
| 01:52.57 | Arrowmaster | yeah i dont think its valid in 4.01 strict is it? |
| 01:53.08 | Shirik | I mean, HTML 4 has been out for how long now? |
| 01:53.12 | Shirik | I was using HTML 4 when I was in 6th grade |
| 01:53.21 | Shirik | You would think we're a bit past the transitional period by now |
| 01:53.34 | Shirik | (especially since XHTML is the "new thing" |
| 01:53.42 | Shirik | "new" is debatable |
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| 02:02.26 | kd3 | grr... another picnic pasket |
| 02:07.48 | Tekkub | god damnit |
| 02:08.04 | Tekkub | why must good chinese food always burp back weird the rest of the night? |
| 02:09.50 | mikma | because it's too good |
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| 02:12.56 | Shirik | mikma: You want to eat it again? |
| 02:18.54 | Aquavette | its called msg |
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| 02:21.14 | mikma | shirik: not if it's been eaten once already |
| 02:21.30 | Shirik | well whhy else would your body bring it back up? |
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| 02:26.42 | haste | Shirik: XHTML was the new thing in 2001 (or so) |
| 02:26.47 | Shirik | yeah :P |
| 02:27.03 | haste | XML+XLST will become the next shit now I guess |
| 02:27.15 | Shirik | That only reinforces my statement that we're a bit past the "transitional" period for 4.01 |
| 02:28.01 | haste | XML+XLST is awesome tho' :P |
| 02:28.08 | Arrowmaster | yet nobody uses it |
| 02:28.15 | haste | I know! |
| 02:28.32 | haste | When I discovered it I was like... holy shit? what have I been doing the last four years? |
| 02:28.45 | Shirik | jsp! |
| 02:28.47 | Shirik | gogo jsp! |
| 02:28.56 | Shirik | jsp with js |
| 02:29.01 | Shirik | can you render a page entirely in js? |
| 02:29.07 | Shirik | Can you like put dots or something in js? |
| 02:29.43 | haste | wat |
| 02:30.07 | Shirik | can you completely skip any markup language and still deliver a webpage |
| 02:30.13 | Shirik | e.g., draw it with javascript |
| 02:30.24 | haste | don't think so |
| 02:30.24 | Arrowmaster | doubt it |
| 02:32.57 | Iriel | I think you can generate the page content |
| 02:33.15 | Iriel | but you'd need to provide enough HTML so that the browser knew where to find the JS |
| 02:34.00 | Arrowmaster | exactly, and even if you dont tell it a doctype it would just try to guess how to read the html |
| 02:34.36 | haste | but you would still be using a markup language |
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| 02:46.18 | mikma | ah-ha, tigole has left the wow. :P |
| 02:46.50 | Shirik | ? |
| 02:46.58 | p3lim | finally got my meta archivement ^_^ |
| 02:47.00 | mikma | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=39286.msg653292;topicseen#new |
| 02:47.01 | kd3 | he's moving to the "future new mmo" |
| 02:47.03 | p3lim | and peddlefeet :) |
| 02:51.12 | |pez| | I feel there's lots of hate towards this tigole person |
| 02:51.19 | AbsolutRayne | I dont suppose theres an Addon that keeps track of the WG timerson your server? |
| 02:51.37 | Iriel | AbsolutRayne: There are |
| 02:52.11 | AbsolutRayne | Really |
| 02:52.15 | AbsolutRayne | Got a link? |
| 02:52.24 | kd3 | search wintergrasp on wowi? |
| 02:52.26 | Shirik | ~dict headnodic |
| 02:52.37 | Stanzilla | mikma wrote one afaik :P |
| 02:52.39 | Iriel | No, i would imagine going to wowinterface and searching might yield one |
| 02:53.04 | Shirik | Pandora just told me one of the songs was picked because it features "headnodic beats" |
| 02:53.13 | kd3 | the hell? |
| 02:53.14 | Shirik | is that like "it makes you want to headbang?" |
| 02:53.21 | mikma | i wrote two actually :O the Wintergrasp Timer i handed to Mike-N-Go and rewrote a new one, Wintergrasp Timer Light |
| 02:54.26 | Shirik | http://blog.pandora.com/faq/index.html#321 "What do you call beats that are too quick to slow-dance to, too slow to really get down, but still make you want to move your body? At Pandora we call these 'headnodic beats.' 'Headnodic beats' will cause most people to sway their bodies or nod their heads in time, but are not ferocious enough to compel them/you to jump up and dance. Headnodic beats are often found in rap and downtempo music." |
| 02:54.46 | Shirik | that's awesome, they make their own terms ^_^ |
| 02:59.03 | Tekkub | http://www.groupee.com/review/product/125687491923939422 |
| 02:59.08 | Tekkub | August 22, 2000 |
| 02:59.15 | Tekkub | was pandora even around then? |
| 02:59.34 | Iriel | Shirik: You reminded me of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBAbi16BJsc |
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| 03:01.12 | Shirik | nice Iriel |
| 03:01.27 | Iriel | It's significantly better in person |
| 03:01.48 | Iriel | but then, those kinds of things usually are |
| 03:02.46 | Iriel | Oh,t his one is better I think http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26REYsR0K_I&NR=1 |
| 03:03.13 | Iriel | yes, that's an actual "professional" version |
| 03:06.09 | haste | haha, closer look at the audience :D |
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| 03:11.47 | Kirov | Blue Man Group went through a bunch of legal shit when they were first starting to get popular. |
| 03:12.19 | Shirik | omg |
| 03:12.27 | Shirik | Pandora found one of my favorite songs of all time that I forgot the name of! |
| 03:12.35 | Shirik | I <3 Pandora |
| 03:12.38 | Kirov | There was a spate of Blue Man Group pretenders that cropped up, most of which were terrible. |
| 03:12.39 | Iriel | Shirik: What song is that? |
| 03:12.49 | Iriel | Kirov: interesting, I can imagine that tho |
| 03:13.00 | Iriel | the real BMG are incredibly talented |
| 03:13.16 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTl_hWZt8DA |
| 03:13.24 | Shirik | Instrumental as is most that I listen to |
| 03:13.25 | Kirov | Set back BMG for a couple of years because they got a bad reputation from the pretenders. |
| 03:13.49 | Kirov | I worked on a project that we almost had BMG do the music for. |
| 03:14.16 | Kirov | Shirik - I've been listening to this at work the last week or so. |
| 03:14.21 | cogwheel | anyone know how to/if you can quickly scroll irssi between highlighted lines? |
| 03:15.07 | Shirik | Why is the right mouse button button 3 in Java? |
| 03:15.17 | Kirov | heh |
| 03:15.33 | Kirov | probably because it's SUN heritage. |
| 03:15.37 | cogwheel | most mice have 3 buttons? |
| 03:15.53 | cogwheel | if you start with that, it makes sense imo... |
| 03:16.15 | Kirov | Sun Sparc systems had mice with three buttons, but no mousewheel. |
| 03:17.04 | kd3 | my old 486 had one of those |
| 03:17.18 | Kirov | http://www.blaat.net/gear/ipx-big.jpg |
| 03:17.29 | Shirik | oh I remember those Kirov |
| 03:17.58 | Kirov | It doesn't make sense to have the third button in the middle, that really only came about because of the mouse wheel. |
| 03:18.07 | Shirik | I guess that makes sense |
| 03:18.07 | Kirov | (or at least gained popularity) |
| 03:18.18 | ccox | there were 3 button mice long before there were scroll wheels on mice |
| 03:18.32 | ccox | some of them were even bundled with Windows 1.0 |
| 03:18.40 | Kirov | ccox - yes, and they were 1, 2, 3 most of the time, not 1, 3, 2 like today's mice |
| 03:19.10 | ccox | Kirov - that all depended on the application, there weren't many standards |
| 03:19.30 | ccox | Sun mice (Sun2, Sun3, etc.) were 3 button, with no fixed mapping |
| 03:19.32 | Shirik | java.lang.AbstractMethodError: com.mmoui.wow.manager.Addon.getPopupOptions()[Lcom/mmoui/manager/services/Updatable$PopupOption; |
| 03:19.33 | Shirik | oops |
| 03:20.46 | Iriel | Also, In X Windows Button2 is the middle button on a standard 3 button mouse |
| 03:20.53 | Shirik | really? |
| 03:21.10 | Shirik | I thought it was pretty widely used that left is 1, right is 2 |
| 03:21.15 | Shirik | I mean, that's all I've ever seen before |
| 03:21.29 | kd3 | xev agrees |
| 03:21.32 | Shirik | And if you get the "left to right" out of your head, it kinda agrees |
| 03:21.42 | Shirik | Left is primary action, Right is secondary action |
| 03:21.48 | Iriel | I started my X11 experiences on SunOS |
| 03:21.53 | Shirik | middle click is rarely used and really is a tertiary option if it exists |
| 03:22.16 | ccox | Sadly, I predate X Windows (and still think it's an abomination) |
| 03:22.26 | Shirik | though if you talk about wow |
| 03:22.31 | Shirik | middle click is my primary button really :/ |
| 03:22.33 | Iriel | I used to find trying work work with a 2 button mouse horrific |
| 03:22.36 | Shirik | shift+middle for coh, middle for renew |
| 03:22.39 | Shirik | That's about all I need ^_^ |
| 03:22.40 | ccox | Shirik - different windowing systems used to have very different uses for the buttons |
| 03:22.58 | Shirik | wait, ctrl+middle for coh |
| 03:23.02 | Shirik | shift+middle is binding heal |
| 03:23.04 | ccox | Shirik: a few systems had the middle button as primary, with left and right as secondaries depending on the application |
| 03:23.25 | ccox | Iriel: try using Apple's nipple mouse for a while |
| 03:23.37 | Shirik | macbook wheel! |
| 03:23.49 | Iriel | ccox: I did, I thought 'hey this is cute'.. for about 3 days, then plugged in my logitech |
| 03:24.11 | mikma | wow with macbook wheel |
| 03:24.22 | Shirik | macbook wheel only has 1 button |
| 03:24.22 | ccox | Iriel: yep. I get a new mac, I go to Fry's and get a new logitech mouse to go with it. I've got a stack of nipple mice unused. |
| 03:24.23 | Shirik | no confusion |
| 03:24.37 | Olison | ccox: that one? http://fireglow.de/755/index.php?fpp=10&did=6-0&fid=7 |
| 03:24.46 | ccox | Shirik: unfortunately, that ad sounds TOO much like Apple to be funny |
| 03:24.52 | Shirik | lol |
| 03:25.11 | ccox | Olison: no, those are "puck" mice - I had a stack, and gave them to charity |
| 03:25.29 | Olison | oh how could you do that? these poor people! |
| 03:25.34 | kd3 | ^ |
| 03:25.39 | ccox | they used the microswitches to build equip for parapalegics |
| 03:25.45 | Olison | Oh okay |
| 03:25.57 | ccox | Olison: a mouse is just a set of switches and optical gates on a USB connector |
| 03:26.29 | Olison | mhm |
| 03:26.52 | ccox | I meant to send them to Steve Jobs with a nice F, er, Thank You letter - but never got around to it |
| 03:29.29 | Tekkub | couldn't you just cut the calb eoff one, duct tape it to another, and pretend you have a grownup-sixed mouse? |
| 03:29.42 | Tekkub | s/x/z/ |
| 03:29.42 | kd3 | blah. hate, hate flying into or out of dalaran |
| 03:30.03 | ccox | Tekkub: not when I can get a real mouse for $9 at Fry's |
| 03:30.17 | Tekkub | kd3, WTB "I don't give a fuck about other PCs in town, delay loading them over a looooooong timeframe" option |
| 03:30.17 | Tekkub | PST |
| 03:30.24 | Kirov | I had a friend who refused to use anything but his imac puck |
| 03:30.27 | kd3 | that would be <3 |
| 03:30.51 | Tekkub | 1 model per second or two, thanks |
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| 03:31.07 | Kirov | He couldn't use other mice because he clicked with his palm |
| 03:31.19 | Tekkub | NPCs can have the OMGALLATONCE behavior still |
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| 03:31.24 | Iriel | Kirov: some tape and a thumb tack would solve that |
| 03:31.29 | kd3 | ^ |
| 03:31.40 | Tekkub | Zootfizzle, we need you |
| 03:31.45 | Tekkub | fix dalaran PCs |
| 03:31.53 | Tekkub | I'll give you a cookie |
| 03:32.38 | Iriel | You'll give him /a/ cookie? Your sense of worth is seriously in need of calibration |
| 03:32.55 | Tekkub | it's a REALLY good cookie |
| 03:33.10 | Kirov | (psst, say it's a really big cookie too) |
| 03:33.26 | sacarasc | Fixing players? Never gonna happen |
| 03:33.34 | Tekkub | PC models :P |
| 03:33.43 | Tekkub | and define "big" Kirov |
| 03:33.50 | Tekkub | I like girth over length |
| 03:34.02 | sacarasc | 1 hectare is pretty big for a cookie |
| 03:34.03 | Kirov | http://pro.corbis.com/images/AAMK001171.jpg?size=67&uid={BA345B11-E7A2-4D22-B37F-8E6B924F6086} |
| 03:34.30 | kd3 | the hell? |
| 03:34.30 | Tekkub | sure that works |
| 03:34.42 | haste | probably healthy |
| 03:34.43 | Tekkub | Zootfizzle, Kirov will send you a cookie |
| 03:34.48 | haste | "send" |
| 03:34.59 | Tekkub | Zootfizzle, Kirov will send you to a cookie |
| 03:35.09 | haste | my thought exactly |
| 03:35.54 | haste | AWDHPFW% |
| 03:36.02 | haste | I though I had some cola left in my coffee cup |
| 03:36.06 | haste | but it was cold coffee |
| 03:36.14 | haste | <insert gigantic shock> |
| 03:36.39 | Wobin | that'll teach you not to put milk in your coffee |
| 03:36.47 | haste | no god no |
| 03:36.49 | Wobin | (or smelling the cup) |
| 03:36.55 | haste | I _hate_ milk in my coffee |
| 03:37.00 | haste | I'd rather drink it cold then |
| 03:37.09 | Wobin | Mission accomplished =) |
| 03:37.27 | mikma | lul |
| 03:37.32 | Tekkub | I'll put some cream in your coffee |
| 03:37.38 | mikma | cold coffee makews you pretty or so |
| 03:37.43 | haste | 100% natural! |
| 03:37.52 | Tekkub | never turn away free cream |
| 03:38.20 | mikma | ckk had enough of tek's cream |
| 03:38.35 | Tekkub | he can't handle my cream |
| 03:38.44 | haste | the cream was too much for the knight |
| 03:38.50 | mikma | who can is the question |
| 03:38.58 | haste | we will never know! |
| 03:38.59 | Kirov | french? |
| 03:40.51 | haste | one try left on the shit achievement |
| 03:42.32 | sacarasc | What achievement? |
| 03:42.36 | AbsolutRayne | Whats a good Panel addon, minus Titan Panel? |
| 03:42.54 | Tekkub | panel |
| 03:42.58 | haste | sacarasc: Be mine! |
| 03:43.17 | haste | Tekkub: wrong! |
| 03:43.20 | haste | it's -Titan |
| 03:43.28 | haste | you remove Titan Panel from Panel |
| 03:43.31 | Tekkub | tekBlocks >> all |
| 03:47.51 | Shirik | woah |
| 03:47.55 | Shirik | Pandora started playing Halo 2 musix |
| 03:48.20 | kd3 | halo soundtrack is <3 |
| 03:49.05 | Shirik | agree |
| 03:49.22 | Shirik | I love how music is becoming so integral to games |
| 03:49.38 | Iriel | s/becoming/continuing to be/ 8-) |
| 03:50.26 | Shirik | eh |
| 03:50.40 | Shirik | I'm not sure I agree with that :) |
| 03:50.48 | Shirik | 8 bit sound did not classify as music |
| 03:50.51 | mikma | ah halo |
| 03:51.07 | mikma | i still enjoy playing the first one |
| 03:51.29 | sacarasc | Shirik: Try playing a pen and paper RPG with a good soundtrack (like has been done for many years) ;p |
| 03:51.36 | Shirik | >< |
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| 04:04.26 | AbsolutRayne | With Pitbull4, if you disable a bar, how do you re-enable it? |
| 04:04.36 | AbsolutRayne | nm found it |
| 04:05.20 | Kirov | I'd argue that music has been a big part of games for a long time. It's just not something most people (or developers) realized. |
| 04:05.47 | Kirov | Think about Doom's Megadeth-like Midi music, that was huge. |
| 04:06.14 | Kirov | Early years of the CDRom, most games were still only maybe 10-20 megs, the rest of the disk was Redbook audio |
| 04:06.24 | Iriel | I used to plug my midi keyboard in while playing doom |
| 04:06.29 | haste | lies Kirov |
| 04:06.39 | haste | the early cdrom games were FMV! |
| 04:06.57 | haste | and my rise of the triad begs to disagree with me :p |
| 04:07.10 | Shirik | ok Kirov, granted, but music has become bigger |
| 04:07.22 | Shirik | games are even using live music in some cases |
| 04:07.25 | Shirik | instead of synthesized |
| 04:07.26 | Kirov | haste - that's what popularized the CDRom, yes. Myst, 7th Guest, Sewer Shark |
| 04:07.33 | Kirov | Shirik - yep |
| 04:07.48 | Shirik | I'm not sure if Halo is live, but I'd bet on it |
| 04:08.02 | Kirov | Shirik - but then Bungie has money out the ass and can afford full orcestral arrangements. |
| 04:08.06 | Shirik | yes :) |
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| 04:08.20 | Kirov | And to answer your question, most isn't. |
| 04:08.24 | kd3 | myst <3 |
| 04:08.27 | Kirov | But some is. |
| 04:08.36 | Adys | someone please give me a kiss |
| 04:08.37 | Iriel | Speaking of music: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2942922314315974986 |
| 04:08.42 | Kirov | I know some of the guys who did the chanting from the original. |
| 04:08.44 | Adys | a hug, a pat on the back |
| 04:08.45 | Iriel | I'd imagine many of you have seen that already |
| 04:08.46 | Adys | anything |
| 04:08.48 | Adys | sre = re.match(r"(%s)\(([^,]+,([^,)])+[,)]([^)]?)\)?" % "|".join(functions), string) |
| 04:09.01 | Shirik | That doesn't look right |
| 04:09.07 | kd3 | oh, animusic |
| 04:09.09 | Kirov | (Bungie employees layered several times to sound like a large number of people) |
| 04:09.11 | Shirik | you sure you didn't mean \\( and \\) ? |
| 04:09.17 | kd3 | wow, where'd I originally see this? |
| 04:09.20 | Adys | Shirik: its a raw string |
| 04:09.25 | Adys | Iriel: Aye I remember this.. from a year ago or so |
| 04:09.28 | Adys | not sure where from either |
| 04:09.38 | Iriel | kd3: there's a live ATI demo of it.. but the original was a SIGGRAPH thing I think.. I have their DVD |
| 04:09.43 | Iriel | (the first one, they have a new one now I think) |
| 04:09.45 | Shirik | what language is that, Adys? |
| 04:09.50 | Adys | Shirik: python |
| 04:09.54 | kd3 | ati demo, that's it |
| 04:09.54 | Shirik | oh f python |
| 04:10.10 | Kirov | These guys have been doing CG music videos for around 15 years. |
| 04:10.13 | Adys | >>> r"(%s)\(([^,]+,([^,)])+[,)]([^)]?)\)?" |
| 04:10.19 | Adys | Cidebot be dead |
| 04:10.20 | Shirik | <3 Iriel |
| 04:10.42 | Iriel | I should try and find a better res version, that one's pretty low.. |
| 04:10.59 | Iriel | It's by far the best one on the DVD, though there's another I like quite a bit, i'll try and find that too |
| 04:11.09 | Iriel | this one's all done by reverse-planning from midi |
| 04:11.59 | Adys | the one you linked? |
| 04:12.09 | Iriel | actually, they do all of them that way, IIRC |
| 04:12.15 | Adys | thought so |
| 04:12.38 | Iriel | I like this one too http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3017465604550485074&hl=en possibly just because I like the tune |
| 04:12.46 | Iriel | and the way you can visualize it |
| 04:12.50 | AbsolutRayne | ugh |
| 04:13.03 | AbsolutRayne | I need to go back to the Old Pitbull for now, til I get some of the options back |
| 04:13.05 | AbsolutRayne | :/ |
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| 04:15.30 | Adys | so Shirik |
| 04:15.39 | Adys | wanna help me write this interpretator? :D |
| 04:15.46 | Shirik | Python interpreter? |
| 04:15.54 | Adys | interpreter, right |
| 04:15.56 | Adys | its fucking late |
| 04:16.01 | Adys | and, no |
| 04:16.23 | Shirik | I'm trying to post an update to the UI manager by tonight >< |
| 04:16.28 | Adys | rewriting my spellstring interpreter into a more potable piece of code |
| 04:16.30 | Shirik | and Iriel that really is a nice song |
| 04:17.12 | Adys | http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:XeqxzD2NH-4J:codespeak.net/pypy/dist/pypy/objspace/std/formatting.py+pypy+String+formatting+routines.&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a |
| 04:17.22 | Adys | pypy is awesome :) |
| 04:22.00 | Adys | 8 mins for my last shot at peddlefeet |
| 04:22.15 | haste | same for my last shot at candies |
| 04:22.20 | Adys | after 104 tries.. |
| 04:22.26 | haste | I don't have a count |
| 04:22.29 | Olison | Adys: wish you luck |
| 04:22.43 | Adys | haste: I count by the amount of tries I skipped |
| 04:22.47 | haste | but this is the second day I'll sleep less than 4h 'cauese of it |
| 04:22.57 | Adys | l2alarmclock every hour |
| 04:23.09 | Adys | worst thing |
| 04:23.11 | Adys | I got peddlefeet |
| 04:23.16 | haste | one house between me and the computer :p |
| 04:23.16 | Adys | on my mule |
| 04:23.19 | Adys | on the FIRST TRY |
| 04:23.38 | kd3 | damn it, silver shafted arrows. not truesilver... |
| 04:23.40 | kd3 | >.< |
| 04:23.47 | haste | I have 70 of them now |
| 04:24.08 | Adys | I have 195 Unbestowed Friendship Bracelets |
| 04:24.12 | Adys | and used many of them |
| 04:24.21 | Adys | oh and |
| 04:24.29 | Adys | 13 Romantic Picnic Baskets |
| 04:24.38 | Adys | and 7 black dresses |
| 04:24.39 | haste | I destroyed all after the second :p |
| 04:24.43 | haste | same with the dresses |
| 04:24.48 | Adys | waaaa |
| 04:24.51 | Adys | you can sell the dresses |
| 04:25.00 | haste | not for much :p |
| 04:25.02 | Adys | plenty of ppl who believe they'll get the achievement like that |
| 04:25.18 | haste | and I don't really care aobut the possible profit |
| 04:25.20 | Adys | i sold all of mine for 15g |
| 04:25.27 | haste | I just want the damn achievement |
| 04:25.29 | Adys | well except two |
| 04:25.44 | haste | 4min 10sec |
| 04:25.53 | Adys | Im on 4 min 10 sec too |
| 04:25.55 | haste | then I can finally sleep! |
| 04:25.57 | Adys | we should have sex, you know |
| 04:26.01 | haste | y! |
| 04:26.27 | Iriel | Ooh.. Pipe Dream 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lExkQMEHhU&feature=related |
| 04:26.59 | Adys | hmmm nice |
| 04:28.19 | Arrowmaster | looks exactly like the ati demo except not completed |
| 04:28.37 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.54 | haste | "yay" |
| 04:28.54 | Iriel | I'm going to have to order the 2nd dvd |
| 04:29.27 | Iriel | this one's pretty cool too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GSwzK7s97w&feature=related |
| 04:30.07 | haste | HOLY SHIT! |
| 04:30.12 | haste | bag of candeis |
| 04:31.47 | haste | and I got the last one <3 |
| 04:31.52 | Adys | grats :) |
| 04:32.03 | haste | that's my second candy bag |
| 04:32.10 | Adys | i needed 3 |
| 04:32.15 | Adys | ... but I got 9 in total |
| 04:32.30 | Codayus_ | Grats haste. :-) |
| 04:32.40 | haste | it was my last chance also so :p |
| 04:32.50 | haste | only needed one candy after the first bag |
| 04:32.54 | Codayus_ | The overly random nature of the valentines event is ah...sometimes nervewracking. |
| 04:32.56 | haste | which I got three dags ago =/ |
| 04:33.00 | haste | yeh |
| 04:33.06 | haste | I hate it |
| 04:33.08 | Codayus_ | Not sure I agree with the design choice. |
| 04:33.16 | Adys | nevermind the fact its random |
| 04:33.17 | Codayus_ | ...well, okay, the design choice blows chunks, actually. |
| 04:33.20 | haste | They should remove Be mine! from the meta achievement |
| 04:33.21 | Adys | 5 days event |
| 04:33.25 | Adys | just sucks |
| 04:33.42 | Arrowmaster | meh i got 14/14 of the achivements the first day and havent logged on since |
| 04:33.44 | Adys | and what else sucks is the habbit they have of ONE HOUR DEBUFF GAHWAHWAH |
| 04:33.57 | Adys | which is just not fun |
| 04:34.20 | Wobin | I just didn't bother |
| 04:34.29 | Codayus_ | Arrowmaster: You're missing the point. Quite a few people have tried it every day, and are still missing achievements. That's what "random" means. Some have no issues, some can't do it no matter what... |
| 04:34.30 | Adys | Im still going for the drake |
| 04:34.33 | Wobin | and it's so much less stress =P |
| 04:35.01 | Codayus_ | At least on my server, the debuff was a joke. It was hard to go 10 feet without getting cleansed... |
| 04:35.14 | Adys | Im not talking about that debuff |
| 04:35.23 | Codayus_ | Oh, the cooldown? Yeah... |
| 04:35.24 | Arrowmaster | im just saying once you do complete it all theres no reason to even login during the event |
| 04:35.40 | haste | I completed it just now |
| 04:35.44 | haste | 30min before it ends |
| 04:35.54 | Codayus_ | Arrowmaster: Ah, agreed. It's far too little content for the lucky, and far too much "content" for the unlucky. |
| 04:35.55 | Adys | Im talking about the cooldowns they use for liita and hallows end |
| 04:36.01 | haste | and I've tried ever single adoration the last 48h, excpet 4 |
| 04:36.02 | Codayus_ | If you call logging in every hour "content". |
| 04:36.20 | Arrowmaster | oh its not content at all |
| 04:36.32 | Codayus_ | Hm, is it ending? Bleh, no peddlefeet for me then. |
| 04:36.33 | haste | at least it's a while till the next event |
| 04:36.45 | haste | it's ending in EU at 6AM server time |
| 04:36.48 | Adys | i think |
| 04:36.50 | haste | which is in 23min 10sec |
| 04:36.59 | Adys | a good example of an event is winter's veil |
| 04:37.15 | Adys | not saying achievement wise |
| 04:37.17 | Arrowmaster | i spent most of the time during the event making the gift collection just so i could get the rockets |
| 04:37.23 | Adys | but liita is just not fun at all |
| 04:37.31 | Arrowmaster | liita? |
| 04:37.38 | Adys | that event i cba to spell |
| 04:38.51 | Adys | hallow'd end was "ok" if you dont count the rare drop bs |
| 04:39.12 | Wobin | Love is in the air |
| 04:39.14 | Adys | (i dont think a mount should be on a rare drop on an event, ever. pets yeah, mounts no - and I got the HH mount) |
| 04:39.16 | haste | winter veil was the frist achievement event I did |
| 04:39.31 | Adys | brewfest was ok... 2 years ago |
| 04:39.34 | Adys | last year it just sucked |
| 04:39.50 | haste | I haven't done those :D |
| 04:39.53 | Arrowmaster | brewfest got me 3 mounts =D |
| 04:39.54 | Adys | removed fun quests, added unfun ones |
| 04:40.25 | Arrowmaster | i never got the fucking direbrew remote though |
| 04:40.41 | Adys | heee heee |
| 04:41.02 | Adys | Ive done over 600 kills (stopped counting) of coren |
| 04:41.21 | Adys | every organized group, where I was paying others to pass, neither mount dropped |
| 04:41.27 | Adys | every pug, it dropped |
| 04:41.28 | Adys | and i lost |
| 04:41.46 | Adys | lost on something like 20 kodos and 10 rams, i dont remember exactly |
| 04:41.56 | haste | heh Adys |
| 04:42.06 | haste | we paid 2500g for the lockdown event in VH |
| 04:42.17 | haste | if they got it only ofc :p |
| 04:42.23 | haste | all of us were lacking the water guy |
| 04:42.25 | Arrowmaster | we had a good little farm group, in the middle of the night we invited random 65-69s summoned them and told them they could have any trinket they wanted that droped so they had an epic waiting for when they hit 70 |
| 04:42.30 | Adys | What the fuck? |
| 04:42.32 | Adys | why? |
| 04:42.35 | Adys | you can do it every day |
| 04:42.42 | haste | we never got him |
| 04:42.53 | haste | so on the nerf day we just paid for it |
| 04:43.02 | haste | since we all lacked only that one :p |
| 04:43.13 | haste | went through 6 groups |
| 04:43.29 | Adys | Arrowmaster: sounds reasonable |
| 04:43.33 | Arrowmaster | what they wipe then give you the instance? |
| 04:43.41 | haste | yep |
| 04:44.03 | Adys | on the first day of hallows end, third summon |
| 04:44.08 | Adys | mount dropped, i won the roll |
| 04:44.22 | Adys | and I was paying my group to pass.. on the pet |
| 04:44.34 | Adys | couldnt believe it so i paid them all 200g for losing |
| 04:44.59 | Arrowmaster | i was doing hallows end just for the mount and the cloth helm |
| 04:45.11 | Arrowmaster | then they hotfixed it so the helm came from the hourly too |
| 04:45.22 | Adys | yeah, that was nice |
| 04:45.28 | Arrowmaster | no it sucked |
| 04:45.33 | Arrowmaster | less chance of masks |
| 04:45.38 | haste | :P |
| 04:45.40 | Adys | lol |
| 04:45.49 | haste | but I'm going to bed now! |
| 04:45.49 | Arrowmaster | that achievement fucking sucks |
| 04:45.52 | Adys | well the masks were bugged in the first place |
| 04:45.53 | haste | so I can sleep all day etc |
| 04:45.55 | Adys | I got 17 iirc |
| 04:45.58 | haste | Good Morning! |
| 04:46.04 | Adys | i think Im highest on my server with it |
| 04:46.09 | Adys | and very likely battlegroup |
| 04:46.09 | Arrowmaster | thats the only one i dont have from any world event till now |
| 04:46.18 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:46.32 | Arrowmaster | i got peddlefeet on the very first gift LAST YEAR |
| 04:46.36 | Adys | jerk |
| 04:46.43 | Thrae | Dammit, this is what I hate about WoW -- the backwards grind. If you want to take up Herbalism, you need to either start a new character or go grind...herbs. |
| 04:47.21 | Thrae | What herbs you can gather should be partially linked to your level. |
| 04:47.35 | Adys | i want a scaling mmo |
| 04:47.39 | Adys | but nevermind that |
| 04:47.52 | Arrowmaster | and last year i was planning to do the lvl 1 trick to get peddlefeet too since you could mail the gifts then, but i didnt need to |
| 04:48.14 | Adys | i didnt do liita last year |
| 04:48.16 | Adys | because it SUCKED |
| 04:48.23 | Arrowmaster | it was one of those just stand there dumbstruck moments |
| 04:48.55 | Adys | i bet you got peddlefeet because you're arrowmaster |
| 04:49.01 | Adys | (truesilver arrow... get it? ha ha) |
| 04:49.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Adys |
| 04:49.10 | purl | hauls Adys up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles |
| 04:49.17 | Adys | ~whalelart NightHawkTheSane |
| 04:49.24 | Adys | that NEEDS to exist |
| 04:49.30 | NightHawkTheSane | ~comfort adys |
| 04:49.31 | purl | There, there, adys. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 04:49.37 | Adys | ~jerk |
| 04:49.38 | purl | hmm... jerk is the derivative of acceleration with respect to time |
| 04:49.48 | Adys | anyhow, Im off to bed |
| 04:49.51 | Adys | ~good night |
| 04:49.52 | purl | Good night, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry! |
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| 05:17.07 | AnduinLothar | v1.1 w/ sub-windows http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11749-Portfolio.html |
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| 05:28.38 | Cloudwolf | FYI don't do what i did. Forget to completely restart wow after changing a global and wondering why my global wasn't saving or working |
| 05:28.47 | Cloudwolf | :P |
| 05:38.42 | Cloudwolf | gnight |
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| 05:46.24 | bleeter | amro: why, what happened? |
| 05:46.58 | bleeter | hmm, 'thou shall not operate an ingame casino' policy on WoW US side seems to have vanished |
| 05:48.06 | bleeter | amro: ah, nm |
| 05:50.07 | Thunder_Child | http://i.gizmodo.com/5153578/star-trek-corsets-hopefully-will-make-him-last-long-and-prosper |
| 05:52.15 | bleeter | and casinos are springing up and GMs aren't shutting them down... odd |
| 05:52.25 | bleeter | *al;legedly |
| 05:55.29 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/gay.png |
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| 06:10.37 | Thunder_Child | http://i.gizmodo.com/5153155/retro-video-game-remake-wallpapers-look-gorgeous-nostalgic |
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| 06:38.02 | bleeter | Cairenn: ping |
| 06:38.21 | Cairenn | bleeter: pong |
| 06:39.03 | bleeter | Cairenn: so it'd seem that Blizz US have either reversed the policy on Casinos, or the more recently employed GMs have no idea about the 'rule' because it's been removed from (a) policies (b) the website. |
| 06:39.07 | Tekkub | Cairenn, ding |
| 06:39.13 | Sargeras | Cairenn: hug |
| 06:39.21 | Cairenn | bleeter: interesting |
| 06:39.24 | bleeter | Cairenn: just thought I'd let you know, given.. my previous discussion with you... about... websites and money and stuff |
| 06:39.24 | Cairenn | Tekkub: dong |
| 06:39.30 | Cairenn | Sargeras: snuggle |
| 06:39.31 | Tekkub | huh huh |
| 06:39.55 | bleeter | Cairenn: yar, it's getting worse... on the forums I'm not going down the path that my brain has already travelled |
| 06:40.09 | Cairenn | bleeter: *nod* |
| 06:40.11 | bleeter | Cairenn: which is a guild, which takes $$ for membership, operates an ingame casino, etc. etc. etc. |
| 06:40.37 | bleeter | Cairenn: oddly enough, though, the EU policy documents explictly ban casinos, US doesn't. |
| 06:40.46 | Cairenn | odd |
| 06:41.12 | Thunder_Child | do you have to be 80 to enter naxx? |
| 06:41.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: yes |
| 06:41.28 | Sargeras | yeds |
| 06:41.32 | Sargeras | -d |
| 06:41.58 | Thunder_Child | damit...this means i have to level to 80 before 6am just to complete the damn love thing |
| 06:42.07 | NightHawkTheSane | yep |
| 06:42.11 | Tekkub | http://abstrusegoose.com/118 |
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| 06:46.45 | bleeter | Cairenn: oh, I found out something else fun to do when stripping an authenticator from a non-Wrath account. Put the 10 day trials on it, as it apparently means the account will never ever be allowed to have a 10 day trial for that xpac ever again ;) |
| 06:46.45 | bleeter | *non-wrath or bc |
| 06:46.45 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 06:47.10 | bleeter | someone asked yesterday, saying something like they put the trial on the wrong account, and iirc the response was sorta 'oops soz nothing can be done' |
| 06:48.54 | Thunder_Child | fail wowhead, fail http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=4179 |
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| 07:03.08 | Fisker- | it's bleeter get him |
| 07:03.15 | bleeter | no u |
| 07:03.22 | Fisker- | :( |
| 07:07.00 | Shirik | Chrome needs a soft refresh like firefox |
| 07:07.12 | Tekkub | what's the current TOC, still 30000? |
| 07:07.20 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 07:07.59 | jnwhiteh | only UI changes were the frame depths |
| 07:08.03 | jnwhiteh | and that was 3.0.8 |
| 07:09.38 | Fisker- | nou |
| 07:12.47 | bleeter | so let's see... hijack forum logins, strip authenticator, add trials, operate a casino... woohoo I bet I can make a bucket outta all this somehow. |
| 07:15.57 | NightHawkTheSane | GAAAAAAH. wtb last candy i need >< |
| 07:17.53 | Tekkub | you achievement crack whores are amusing |
| 07:18.33 | Thunder_Child | i dont do them unless there is a reason |
| 07:18.38 | Thunder_Child | like a mount |
| 07:19.39 | Tekkub | I cannot justify all that effort to an ugly not-dragon |
| 07:20.01 | Thunder_Child | it's free |
| 07:20.11 | Thunder_Child | the jew in me accepts no less |
| 07:20.29 | Tekkub | make sure he pulls out |
| 07:20.42 | Tekkub | you don't want little jewlings all over the place in 9 months |
| 07:21.01 | Thunder_Child | your right, cant handle any of them at all |
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| 07:37.46 | Thunder_Child | http://i.gizmodo.com/5152962/awesome-classic-gadget-shirts-will-let-your-natural-charm-drive-away-girls |
| 07:38.21 | Tekkub | right, because people LOVE tapes... |
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| 07:41.54 | Tekkub | stupid cute comfortable cat |
| 07:42.00 | Tekkub | my arm's going to sleep |
| 07:45.31 | Thunder_Child | http://miss2009.nuclear.ru/ |
| 07:47.31 | Tekkub | 2009 russian mail order bride catalog? |
| 07:48.09 | Thunder_Child | no, pic the hottest woman to be born/living in chernoble |
| 07:48.17 | Thunder_Child | or however it is spelled |
| 07:48.42 | Tekkub | oh, 2009 russian mail order bride clearance catalog |
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| 08:02.55 | Tekkub | 2122. Moby - [Go: The Very Best of Moby #03] Porcelain |
| 08:03.04 | Tekkub | best song evar |
| 08:03.13 | Elkano | damn, I'm way to lazy with updating to wowi :/ the page once again ate almost all my addons for being out of date :/ |
| 08:11.42 | Thunder_Child | if you like fail music |
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| 08:35.10 | bleeter | holy shit, for once I agree with Thunder_Child =) |
| 08:35.57 | Thunder_Child | you know bleeter each time you say that reality rips for mor than one reason |
| 08:36.03 | Thunder_Child | more& |
| 08:36.04 | Thunder_Child | ** |
| 08:36.08 | Thunder_Child | rwha;eawhjfkjhwfjfhwkjahdwkjahd |
| 08:36.10 | Thunder_Child | meh |
| 08:36.45 | bleeter | yeah if this keeps up eventually I'll start agreeing with fisker about stuff... and then we'll all be screwed =) |
| 08:37.16 | Thunder_Child | and only tekkub will enjoy that |
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| 09:17.44 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: > 11/02 Free character migrationDue to faction differences, the following Free Character Migration will be available from February 11 to 17:Horde only: Magtheridon --> Haomarush, Tarren Mill, Trollbane, Zenedar, Silvermoon (PvE) |
| 09:17.45 | Shiibot | Alliance only: Aerie Peak, Aggramar, Arathor, Azjol-Nerub, Dragonblight, Ghostlands, Hellscream, Khadgar, Kilrogg, Lightbringer, Nagrand, Silvermoon, Stormrage, Terenas, Thunderhorn, Turalyon --> Magtheridon (PvP) |
| 09:17.45 | Shiibot | Please note that any migration may be closed at any time should a destination realm's population rise too high. For questions and additional information, please see the Realms and Migration thread in the General forum. |
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| 09:22.53 | Thunder_Child | ~wowalert |
| 09:22.53 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 09:23.11 | Shirik | you could always just do !serveralert US or !serveralert EU too :) |
| 09:23.44 | Thunder_Child | how come it doesnt match with what was just posted though? |
| 09:23.56 | Thunder_Child | oh |
| 09:23.56 | Shirik | ? |
| 09:23.57 | Thunder_Child | eu |
| 09:23.58 | Thunder_Child | nv |
| 09:23.59 | Thunder_Child | m |
| 09:24.01 | Shirik | lol |
| 09:28.01 | Thunder_Child | does it make me a bad person if i really like this shirt http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/music-in-a-minor/ ? |
| 09:28.29 | Shirik | yes, yes it does |
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| 09:28.50 | Thunder_Child | yea....i'm ok with that |
| 09:29.01 | NightHawkTheSane | you were a bad person before |
| 09:29.10 | NightHawkTheSane | why do you think liking the shirt or not would change that :P |
| 09:29.13 | Thunder_Child | umm...worse person? |
| 09:31.14 | Industrial | I should make a tshirt with just |
| 09:31.20 | Industrial | ":| meh" on it |
| 09:32.51 | Fisker- | hey sexy Industrial |
| 09:32.57 | Bibi` | Fisker- |
| 09:33.02 | Bibi` | fix my excel 2007 |
| 09:33.05 | Fisker- | nah |
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| 09:33.09 | Shirik | Bibi` |
| 09:33.22 | Shirik | is your name supposed to be pronounced "bee bee" or "bye bye" |
| 09:33.22 | Bibi` | but it keeps changing what I type for no reason :( |
| 09:33.26 | Bibi` | bee bee! |
| 09:33.36 | Shirik | but when I want to say bye I say bibi :( |
| 09:33.42 | Bibi` | you fail. |
| 09:33.45 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 09:33.49 | Industrial | hey sexy Fisker- |
| 09:33.57 | Industrial | im ack from holiday in france |
| 09:34.20 | End | Shirik is lazy. |
| 09:34.30 | Bibi` | so huh |
| 09:34.36 | Thunder_Child | ack huh |
| 09:34.58 | Bibi` | everytime I type "20090215-IPwn" in a cell it automatically corrects it to "20090215-Ipwn" and I have to edit it again to capitalize the P :/ |
| 09:35.02 | Bibi` | I need an excel wizard to fix that |
| 09:35.15 | Bibi` | in exchange, I might mention your name in a news in the next 20 years |
| 09:35.21 | End | stop pwning |
| 09:35.31 | End | problem solved |
| 09:35.44 | Shirik | Turn off auto-correct of 2 caps? |
| 09:35.55 | Bibi` | Shirik: and how do I do that? |
| 09:36.04 | End | autocorrect is harder to find with each new version of excel :-/ |
| 09:36.16 | Fisker- | nahuh |
| 09:36.29 | Shirik | excel options -> proofing |
| 09:36.38 | Shirik | auto correct options |
| 09:36.45 | Shirik | Correct TWo INitial CApital |
| 09:36.57 | Fisker- | fu |
| 09:36.59 | Fisker- | i wanted to be first |
| 09:37.07 | End | QQ |
| 09:37.19 | Bibi` | I like you Shirik! |
| 09:37.23 | Fisker- | now i won't be mentioned in the news in the next 20 years |
| 09:37.26 | Shirik | I bet you get that a lot Fisker- |
| 09:37.27 | Shirik | ohoho |
| 09:37.29 | Fisker- | unless i go on a killing spree or something |
| 09:37.32 | Bibi` | you can keep saying Bibi for bye bye, I don't care! |
| 09:37.35 | Shirik | :P |
| 09:37.55 | Industrial | Fisker-: shootings are out, jumping off buildings is in |
| 09:38.09 | Industrial | Fisker-: you still leave a mess and shock! |
| 09:38.32 | bleeter | so does anyone know when they're putting in the aerial dogfights as advertised on the WotLK box? |
| 09:38.36 | Fisker- | shootings will never be out |
| 09:38.42 | Fisker- | never bleeter |
| 09:40.00 | Fisker- | btw |
| 09:40.12 | Fisker- | if you got english office and your native language isn't english |
| 09:40.14 | Fisker- | then you're a pirate |
| 09:40.15 | Fisker- | rawr |
| 09:40.43 | Thunder_Child | Credit Card Visa, Mastercard, American Express, Discover |
| 09:40.45 | Thunder_Child | PayPal Pay using your Paypal account |
| 09:40.47 | Thunder_Child | Google Checkout Fast checkout through Google |
| 09:40.48 | bleeter | my native language is rubbish so therefore any version of office suits me ;) |
| 09:40.49 | Thunder_Child | Gift Certificate ID Pay with gift certificate (enter your ID on next page) |
| 09:40.51 | Thunder_Child | VIP If you don't know what this is, you're not a VIP |
| 09:40.53 | Thunder_Child | Blood Money (0 TWs) Use your store credit |
| 09:40.55 | Thunder_Child | Sexual Favors Short on cash? |
| 09:41.00 | Fisker- | but you're a pirate then bleeter |
| 09:41.06 | Thunder_Child | fuck you paste |
| 09:41.10 | Thunder_Child | fuck you |
| 09:41.20 | NightHawkTheSane | my native language is vicious insults, i want that version of office. |
| 09:41.25 | Fisker- | everyone hates haste |
| 09:41.33 | Fisker- | and paste rhymes with haste |
| 09:41.35 | Shirik | bad Thunder_Child |
| 09:41.35 | Fisker- | nuff said |
| 09:41.50 | Thunder_Child | talk to my paste Shirik |
| 09:41.55 | Shirik | oh |
| 09:41.57 | Shirik | never on the first date |
| 09:42.47 | Shirik | I really think Windows 7 has a memory leak |
| 09:42.49 | Shirik | a massive one |
| 09:43.04 | Fisker- | your mom is a massive memory leak |
| 09:43.07 | Torhal | Shirik: I think it might be the Windows part. |
| 09:43.13 | Shirik | my apps aren't showing more than 500MB of memory usage, and I have over 2GB used |
| 09:43.38 | Fisker- | resource monitor |
| 09:44.28 | Shirik | "professional" is debatable |
| 09:44.30 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, at best he's amateur |
| 09:44.34 | Shirik | ^ |
| 09:44.40 | Fisker- | nah |
| 09:44.45 | Torhal | So it doesn't count when he pays himself? |
| 09:45.39 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 09:45.51 | Fisker- | Thought it still showed cached memory on the task manager |
| 09:45.57 | Fisker- | Microsoft = Successful trolls |
| 09:46.10 | Fisker- | Then i don't know whatcha talking 'bout Shirik |
| 09:48.23 | Fisker- | actually |
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| 09:48.39 | Fisker- | the default view on the task manager is only the private working set |
| 09:48.46 | Fisker- | which is why it shows lower "than it should" |
| 09:48.56 | Fisker- | or the processes do |
| 09:49.16 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.thefuckingweather.com/ |
| 09:49.54 | Fisker- | you should change it to working set rather than private working set |
| 09:50.05 | Torhal | 27°?! ITS FUCKING COLD |
| 09:50.40 | Arrowmaster | thats what my page says too |
| 09:51.07 | End | ITS FUCKING COLD |
| 09:51.12 | Shirik | I like mine |
| 09:51.14 | Shirik | type 32114 |
| 09:51.23 | Torhal | WIsh I was back in New Orleans. Kinda. 51°?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT |
| 09:51.29 | Shirik | yeah, that's what I get |
| 09:51.41 | NightHawkTheSane | same here |
| 09:51.41 | Torhal | Dayum. 59? |
| 09:51.55 | Shirik | that's cold tbh |
| 09:52.15 | NightHawkTheSane | psh, as the site says, an eskimo would beat your as for that. |
| 09:52.19 | Shirik | lol |
| 09:52.32 | Torhal | Yah? Well, it's 22° where I am and I'm about to step outside for a smoke. |
| 09:52.55 | Industrial | its 6° here :P |
| 09:53.10 | Arrowmaster | we need purl to query that site |
| 09:53.20 | Torhal | Industrial: Where the hell are you? |
| 09:53.40 | Arrowmaster | the tiny captions are great |
| 09:53.48 | Torhal | THO season, indeed. |
| 09:54.07 | Industrial | Torhal: oh wait, celcius. |
| 09:54.14 | Torhal | Industrial: Heh |
| 09:54.32 | Industrial | you people and your funky measurement systems |
| 09:54.34 | Industrial | :p |
| 09:54.47 | Torhal | Hey, it's what I was raised on. :P |
| 09:55.07 | Torhal | -3° celcius where I am. |
| 09:55.27 | Torhal | celsius, even |
| 09:56.12 | Industrial | I just came from the french alps, it was -15/-20 or so there on the mountain top :P |
| 09:56.51 | Shirik | I go home now |
| 09:56.52 | Shirik | bibi |
| 09:56.56 | Torhal | BAI! |
| 09:57.19 | Industrial | bibi |
| 09:57.38 | amro | ~weather DAOO |
| 09:57.47 | bleeter | god I love stirring seppos about being an empire that can't quite let go of their UK origins... they get all cut and shit and then I just say two words.. 'imperial measurements' |
| 09:58.04 | Shirik | ~weather kdab |
| 09:58.24 | Shirik | BYE! |
| 09:58.30 | bleeter | ~weather ymhb |
| 09:58.32 | bleeter | cya Shirik |
| 09:58.33 | amro | 93% :O |
| 09:58.49 | Shirik | amro: welcome to florida :) |
| 09:58.50 | amro | how do you exist in the summer? |
| 09:58.59 | Shirik | I go to internships |
| 09:59.02 | Shirik | in PA |
| 09:59.03 | Shirik | lol |
| 09:59.20 | Shirik | I'm slated for one in Washington next semester |
| 09:59.23 | Shirik | summer* |
| 09:59.27 | Shirik | I'm really good about that |
| 09:59.35 | Shirik | seriously bye |
| 09:59.40 | amro | ciao |
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| 10:09.26 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 10:11.06 | Nechckn_AFK | Shiibot - you get to bed, too! |
| 10:11.27 | Fisker- | Shirik |
| 10:11.30 | Fisker- | you didn't thank me |
| 10:11.32 | Fisker- | so now i hate you |
| 10:12.07 | Shirik | Nechckn_AFK |
| 10:12.12 | Shirik | I am not Shiibot |
| 10:12.18 | Shirik | Shiibot does not sleep, I did not program him to |
| 10:15.32 | Fisker- | how can someone link an item and ask if it's bop |
| 10:15.34 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 10:16.40 | amro | Fisker-: ever tried WTS [Arena Points] in trade? |
| 10:16.46 | amro | the tells you get... >< |
| 10:16.53 | bleeter | (a) stupidity (b) see (a) |
| 10:17.00 | Fisker- | reported amro |
| 10:17.19 | amro | "But they're BoP" gg sherlock |
| 10:17.44 | mikma | pc failing, rules ok. |
| 10:18.00 | mikma | random boots while starting / playing wow... |
| 10:18.34 | Fisker- | currency fail imo amro |
| 10:19.03 | amro | "But how can you sell them??!?!?" "Just right click and you get a menu, click sell." "ok thanx" |
| 10:20.15 | Fisker- | 5,000 gold is a classic as well |
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| 10:30.01 | Shirik | night all |
| 10:31.59 | Industrial | nn Shirik |
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| 10:37.22 | mikma | Thrym 2 - Mikma 1 |
| 10:39.00 | bleeter | doesn't sound good, mikma |
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| 10:52.16 | mikma | ya, no idea why is it doing what it is.. i just opened the pc and just vacuumed all the fur out :D |
| 10:57.46 | MoonWolf | fur... |
| 10:59.55 | mikma | ya |
| 10:59.58 | mikma | furcoated pc |
| 11:08.23 | Fisker- | it's so cold here mikma |
| 11:08.34 | Fisker- | viking dna fading :E |
| 11:08.40 | mikma | fisker-: liar. i know it's hot in hell, not cold. |
| 11:08.43 | Fisker- | wtb finnish genes |
| 11:08.57 | Fisker- | nawww mikma |
| 11:08.59 | Fisker- | this is limbo |
| 11:09.17 | Fisker- | trollin' the gatekeepers |
| 11:20.23 | bleeter | lol.. anyone else notice what the pirate bay have done to their homepage? |
| 11:20.58 | zenzio | at work at the moment; what did they do? |
| 11:22.38 | bleeter | replaced the logo with a cheap cartoon of mr cruise n co. that links to a search for all scientology material they know about |
| 11:23.34 | Fisker- | i can't |
| 11:23.39 | Fisker- | country employs censorship etc. |
| 11:24.00 | Fisker- | shit sucks ;_; |
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| 11:53.11 | Wobin | hehe |
| 11:53.22 | Wobin | I'm amused at how the pirate bay is dealing with the case |
| 11:57.29 | Industrial | How are they? |
| 11:57.35 | Industrial | gief infoz and sauce |
| 11:59.58 | bleeter | day 1 today, fuck all will happen |
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| 12:07.28 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:08.54 | Wobin | http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/14/2317250 |
| 12:12.32 | mikma | i don't get it |
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| 12:25.34 | mikma | oh whee |
| 12:25.38 | mikma | Wizard in D3 |
| 12:25.46 | mikma | i know what class i will play ^^ |
| 12:27.01 | Wobin | ? |
| 12:28.03 | mikma | http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/characters/ |
| 12:30.54 | Proditor | Hey, could anyone be so kind and tell me what kind of formatting code I've got to use to format e.g. 20500 to 20.5? |
| 12:32.56 | Industrial | lua> print(20500/100) |
| 12:32.56 | lua_bot | Industrial: 205 |
| 12:33.02 | Industrial | er, lol |
| 12:33.05 | Industrial | lua> print(20500/1000) |
| 12:33.05 | lua_bot | Industrial: 20.5 |
| 12:33.09 | Industrial | Proditor: \o/ |
| 12:34.38 | Proditor | oh gawd, I'm just retarded :-p Coming home from a maths test and failing on something like that feels quite messed up xD thanks anyhow |
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| 12:37.19 | mortician37 | hi |
| 12:38.00 | MoonWolf | mikma, not been keeping up with the news ? |
| 12:40.20 | mikma | moonwolf: nope, that's why i asked whats going on :) |
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| 12:40.55 | Wobin | mikma: I dunno, I like the look of the Witch Doctor |
| 12:41.01 | Wobin | The locust swarm spell looks fun =) |
| 12:42.32 | Wobin | I'm kinda looking forward to D3, it looks like fun |
| 12:43.01 | foxlit | http://www.starcraft2.com/images/wallpapers/wall8/wall8-800x600.jpg << they do like to reuse that phrase. |
| 12:45.19 | p3lim | Is there an option on the site to download all favorites? |
| 12:46.11 | foxlit | What buff frames do people actually use nowadays? |
| 12:46.48 | mortician37 | :-D |
| 12:46.54 | mortician37 | :-( |
| 12:47.30 | p3lim | I use my own :p |
| 12:47.46 | foxlit | I use blizzard's. Neither one of us is very interesting :) |
| 12:47.55 | p3lim | nope |
| 12:48.03 | p3lim | haste uses a skinned blizzard |
| 12:48.28 | p3lim | SBF is coming with a new version i heard |
| 12:54.45 | foxlit | gah |
| 12:54.53 | foxlit | They increased the hostile teleport range in dalaran |
| 12:55.28 | p3lim | oh? |
| 12:55.55 | foxlit | Can no longer fly into the horde inn |
| 12:58.46 | mortician37 | :) |
| 13:00.19 | mikma | foxlit: i can :D |
| 13:00.31 | mikma | foxlit: i just did it last night (12h ago) |
| 13:00.33 | foxlit | Then, evidently, I fail :) |
| 13:00.54 | mikma | foxlit: 19.00ST today, naxx25 continues |
| 13:01.04 | foxlit | S? |
| 13:01.16 | mikma | servertime? |
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| 13:01.40 | foxlit | mm. |
| 13:03.02 | foxlit | usually use "game time" |
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| 13:03.48 | mikma | okidoki, i'm more used to ST :) |
| 13:03.53 | mikma | http://mikma.reaktio.net/misc/warning.png <- lol |
| 13:04.46 | Wobin | hehe |
| 13:04.52 | Wobin | I just paged past that picture |
| 13:05.41 | mikma | you checking out apina.biz? O_o |
| 13:05.52 | Wobin | nah, kuvaton |
| 13:07.52 | mikma | wobin: http://mikma.reaktio.net/misc/g.gif |
| 13:08.09 | Wobin | your new avatar? |
| 13:08.24 | mikma | na, just keeping it safe for later usage! |
| 13:08.27 | mikma | i edited that once :I |
| 13:08.48 | mikma | wobin: http://mikma.reaktio.net/misc/guru.jpg thats my old one |
| 13:11.28 | Wobin | mikma: oh, was that link you showed Tem the emo stencil? |
| 13:11.44 | mikma | ya |
| 13:12.13 | mikma | dude had cutted deep, deep cuts in his hand saying something |
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| 13:16.44 | Industrial | mikma: relink it? the url in the pic gives me nothing |
| 13:22.07 | Wobin | http://kuvaton.com/browse/10974/emo_stencil.jpg |
| 13:22.56 | mikma | wobin: hmm no, not that |
| 13:24.57 | mikma | there you go |
| 13:25.29 | Industrial | mikma: still ignoring me? |
| 13:25.37 | Wobin | looks that way =P |
| 13:25.44 | Industrial | fail |
| 13:25.47 | Industrial | you ask it |
| 13:25.47 | Industrial | :p |
| 13:25.58 | Wobin | mikma: Industrial wants the link to the image |
| 13:26.06 | Wobin | and now I'm kinda curious too =P |
| 13:26.20 | mikma | check your privatemessage? :I |
| 13:26.25 | mikma | already linked it for you |
| 13:26.47 | Wobin | oh that's terrible |
| 13:26.56 | Industrial | linky linky! |
| 13:27.02 | Wobin | Ur doing it wrong |
| 13:27.09 | Industrial | my coworker needs a new wallpaper |
| 13:27.09 | mikma | ya, down the road imho |
| 13:27.28 | Industrial | ah that one |
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| 13:37.40 | amro | ~whalenuk pb_ee1 |
| 13:37.42 | amro | ~whalenuke pb_ee1 |
| 13:37.43 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around pb_ee1 with his mind powers. |
| 13:38.08 | Lopeppeppy | Someone's violent this morning. :) |
| 13:38.26 | Adys | ~whalezero Lopeppeppy |
| 13:38.27 | purl | ACTION summons Hubert the Mathematician Whale to create a black hole aimed at Lopeppeppy's body through a powerful unhandled division by zero. |
| 13:38.30 | amro | I went all the way downtown before realizing I forgot my keys >< |
| 13:38.38 | amro | and I spilled soda all over my desk |
| 13:38.41 | amro | so not in the best of moods |
| 13:40.17 | Lopeppeppy | Ooooh, division by zero! How sweet of you. |
| 13:40.29 | Lopeppeppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.49 | Lopeppeppy | I have my boss's heavy nasty cold today. I think when he comes in, I'm going to fillet him. |
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| 13:41.30 | amro | looks like I'm not the only one in a violent mood ;p |
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| 13:41.39 | Lothaer | sup guys |
| 13:46.14 | bleeter | someone just complained on the WoW forums that I make no sense.... WELL HELLO MR SPOT-THE-BLEEDIN-OBVIOUS... ffs |
| 13:46.21 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 13:46.33 | Lopeppeppy | Are you being a bad monkey, bleeter? |
| 13:46.44 | bleeter | only if you promise to spank me lol |
| 13:47.18 | Lopeppeppy | I have a cold. Ask me again someday when I have the energy to turn you down properly. |
| 13:47.30 | Adys | that's a yes |
| 13:47.31 | Adys | gogo bleeter |
| 13:47.56 | bleeter | I was having my 3-monthly rant about the stupidity of Blizz's US billing department having a very tiny window of opportunity to sort out issues with Oceanic financial institutions and stuff |
| 13:48.20 | bleeter | as well as the logical conclusion that we over here in Oceania must be smarter than US side as we require far less support |
| 13:48.49 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: I can hardly wait for the proper turndown :D |
| 13:49.09 | bleeter | ~emulate bleeter |
| 13:49.09 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
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| 13:57.44 | Adys | lets see |
| 13:58.09 | Adys | r"/(\d+);(\d*)(%s)([123]?)" r"(%s)([^:]+):([^;]+);" r"(%s)\(([^,]+),([^,)]+),?([^)]?)\)" r"(\d*)(%s)([123]?)" |
| 13:58.13 | Adys | my final regexes |
| 14:00.55 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you. |
| 14:01.06 | foxlit | Are you sure? |
| 14:01.13 | foxlit | There might be a mistake near that ) |
| 14:02.31 | amro | looks like something a printer might output if you install it on windows |
| 14:10.37 | bleeter | Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems. - Jamie Zawinski |
| 14:11.47 | amro | Stand back! I know regular expressions. -xkcd |
| 14:12.28 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 14:15.30 | Adys | they're very clean |
| 14:15.36 | Adys | much cleaner than they would be without python |
| 14:15.41 | Lopeppeppy | That's what everyone says about their pets. |
| 14:15.58 | Adys | not everyone has python pets |
| 14:16.48 | amro | Adys: why would they be less clean w/o python? |
| 14:16.56 | Adys | raw string |
| 14:17.13 | Adys | well |
| 14:17.17 | Adys | try that with hydrairc |
| 14:17.29 | Adys | replace the \d by [0123456789] |
| 14:17.39 | Adys | the ? by {0,1} |
| 14:17.57 | foxlit | Real people compile to DFA. |
| 14:19.03 | Adys | the (cond|eq|max) by [c|e|m][o|q|a][n|x]{0,1}d{0,1} |
| 14:19.12 | Adys | (yeah its that bad) |
| 14:19.20 | Adys | and thats not even a perfect match |
| 14:21.20 | Lothaer | hey does anyone know if the CT guys have a IRC channel? |
| 14:21.47 | nevcairiel | Just prod Cide with your questions, he likes being prodded |
| 14:22.27 | amro | Adys: hydraIRC doesn't count, I'm talking about other languages |
| 14:22.46 | Adys | other languages have fucked up regex syntax too |
| 14:22.52 | Adys | nonstandard |
| 14:23.04 | amro | beside lua, I don't know any that are non standard |
| 14:23.16 | Adys | nonstandard = implements SOME of the syntax |
| 14:23.26 | Industrial | vim |
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| 14:33.35 | mikma | foxlit: ping hai |
| 14:33.44 | foxlit | mikma: pong |
| 14:34.09 | mikma | foxlit: so far it looks like me, my wife and my friend have to skip the raid due us being overtired |
| 14:34.20 | mikma | foxlit: not sure about it, but just wanted you to know |
| 14:34.29 | mikma | been up 24h now kek |
| 14:34.37 | foxlit | boo, hiss, get some sleep :) |
| 14:34.53 | mikma | someone might actually organize the raid, ie "Faiakas" |
| 14:35.08 | mikma | so if he's online, throw him a whisper |
| 14:35.18 | mikma | i'm not sure can i get myself up in 3h :I |
| 14:35.40 | foxlit | The in-game calendar is awesome for those things |
| 14:35.52 | foxlit | Apparently, you can even use it cross-guild |
| 14:36.13 | mikma | ya |
| 14:36.34 | |pez| | My god, listening to the trial on TPB. |
| 14:36.43 | |pez| | The other side has a horribly boring lawyer. |
| 14:36.55 | Lopeppeppy | Lawyer + boring = redundant |
| 14:37.05 | foxlit | grumble grumble |
| 14:37.06 | |pez| | Hiih |
| 14:37.07 | |pez| | true |
| 14:37.15 | |pez| | But still, he was horribly so! |
| 14:37.18 | mikma | foxlit: people should just learn to use it more imho |
| 14:41.16 | Lothaer | woot got it working :D |
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| 14:41.56 | Lothaer | just uploaded Broker_CT :D as per Xylan's request |
| 14:42.19 | mikma | wus dat |
| 14:42.27 | Lothaer | whats CT? |
| 14:42.43 | Lothaer | CTMod |
| 14:42.47 | Lothaer | www.ctmod.net |
| 14:43.09 | mikma | no, Broker_CT |
| 14:43.12 | mikma | what does it do |
| 14:43.19 | Lothaer | opens the CT menu :D |
| 14:43.28 | mikma | now thats nice |
| 14:43.57 | Lothaer | xylan just wanted a LDB version of the Fubar_CTFu pluing :D |
| 14:44.12 | Lothaer | plugin* |
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| 14:47.52 | Lothaer | sup cnc |
| 14:48.52 | mikma | e |
| 14:49.28 | mikma | whops, wrong window active. soz. |
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| 14:53.29 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:53.45 | Lothaer | the mod named Nonce needs to change its name :D |
| 14:54.27 | Lopeppeppy | Why? |
| 14:54.48 | Lothaer | Nonce is slang for a pedphile |
| 14:54.48 | Lothaer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonce_(slang) |
| 14:55.02 | Lothaer | started in the UK |
| 14:55.13 | Lopeppeppy | Huh. |
| 14:55.33 | Lothaer | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12523-Nonce.html |
| 14:55.58 | Lothaer | just a band coincedence |
| 14:56.10 | Lopeppeppy | There is a slang for everything, and honestly... you can't give it to that crap. I'm willing to bet the nice addon authors used a freakin' dictionary. |
| 14:56.48 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:58.28 | jnwhiteh | Nonce: the present, or immediate, occasion or purpose (usually used in the phrase for the nonce). |
| 15:01.17 | foxlit | meh, let it |
| 15:01.20 | foxlit | (be) |
| 15:03.01 | zenzelezz | peppy, what did you do to your cat? :( http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/02/16/funny-pictures-i-figured-why-not/ |
| 15:06.09 | Lopeppeppy | That's not Moose! Moose is not grey, she's a tiger tabby. |
| 15:06.25 | Lopeppeppy | But that's totally an awesome wig. :) |
| 15:06.31 | zenzelezz | I present you with the evidence, a PINK wig |
| 15:10.25 | Lothaer | sup kael |
| 15:12.03 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a redhead. I do not do "pink" |
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| 15:30.00 | Kaelten | yo |
| 15:30.10 | Kaelten | Lopeppeppy: how about azure? |
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| 15:32.38 | Lopeppeppy | Azure I can do, depending on what that word means to *you*. Everyone sees color differently, sadly. |
| 15:32.42 | Lopeppeppy | I prefer a nice hunter green. |
| 15:38.44 | Lothaer | whats new Kael? |
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| 16:07.37 | Adys | ~fail apt |
| 16:07.37 | purl | apt, you Fail! |
| 16:07.40 | Adys | After this operation, 4350kB disk space will be freed. |
| 16:07.40 | Adys | Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y |
| 16:07.40 | Adys | Abort. |
| 16:08.51 | foxlit | user error. |
| 16:08.54 | foxlit | It clearly wanted a Y |
| 16:09.02 | Adys | your mom wanted a Y |
| 16:09.15 | foxlit | You fail at providing what my mom wants, too? |
| 16:09.22 | foxlit | sheesh! |
| 16:10.25 | nevcairiel | did debian just recently release a new version? |
| 16:10.29 | Adys | yes |
| 16:10.30 | Adys | lenny |
| 16:10.36 | nevcairiel | my apt-get wants to download a shitton of stuff =P |
| 16:10.51 | Adys | you were running stable? ;o |
| 16:10.55 | Lopeppeppy | Tell it no, it has to clean it's room first. |
| 16:11.07 | nevcairiel | Adys: its a webserver on the interwebz |
| 16:11.24 | Adys | my webserver on the interwebz doesnt run stable |
| 16:11.26 | Adys | well |
| 16:11.37 | Adys | runs stable, for max 4-5 months after a release |
| 16:12.10 | nevcairiel | I don't usually need new packages, security fixes is fine |
| 16:18.56 | Adys | lol |
| 16:18.59 | Adys | wine-devel |
| 16:19.06 | Adys | "We've won the 'Windows on Linux' award of the year on LinuxQuestions.org again (by quite a large margin, I might add)." |
| 16:19.12 | Adys | gee |
| 16:19.15 | Adys | some surprise there |
| 16:19.36 | nevcairiel | was there even other contestants? =P |
| 16:19.57 | Adys | xof, cedega, win4lin (wtf is that?) and playonlinux |
| 16:20.10 | nevcairiel | isnt cedega a commercial wine clone? |
| 16:20.14 | Adys | it is |
| 16:20.17 | Ackis | GetMapZones() <-- are continents constant between locales? |
| 16:20.31 | Adys | and xof is the "supported" version of wine, by codeweavers |
| 16:20.40 | Adys | Ackis: if they're in caps, yes |
| 16:20.43 | Adys | otherwise, likely not |
| 16:20.50 | Ackis | adys: they're numbers |
| 16:20.53 | Ackis | 1-4 |
| 16:20.54 | Adys | oh |
| 16:20.56 | Adys | then they are |
| 16:21.04 | Ackis | k |
| 16:21.06 | Adys | why would you localize a number? |
| 16:21.14 | Adys | and what would you get? IV? |
| 16:21.21 | Ackis | well the return values are different for locales |
| 16:21.27 | Adys | what? |
| 16:21.35 | foxlit | Ackis is correct. |
| 16:21.42 | Ackis | they're in an array alphabetically |
| 16:21.43 | foxlit | Zone IDs differ across locales. |
| 16:21.50 | foxlit | Continent IDs do not. |
| 16:21.54 | Adys | thats completely fucked up |
| 16:22.05 | Ackis | i agree lol |
| 16:22.14 | foxlit | It's unfortunate. |
| 16:22.15 | Ackis | Adys: http://www.wowwiki.com/LocalizedMapZones |
| 16:22.53 | Adys | ... wow |
| 16:23.18 | Lopeppeppy | Sexy. |
| 16:23.29 | Adys | svg icon fail |
| 16:23.29 | Adys | sec |
| 16:24.12 | Seerah | Ackis: aren't Darkshore and Desolace mixed up for French/German? :p |
| 16:24.39 | Adys | the entire article is way outdated |
| 16:24.45 | Adys | sounds like something that could be autogenerated |
| 16:24.59 | Ackis | Seerah: could be |
| 16:25.00 | foxlit | sounds like something people mostly don't care about |
| 16:25.10 | Adys | so? |
| 16:25.15 | Ackis | Adys: yah it was outdated by a lot when I was looking at it, I just added northrend |
| 16:25.27 | Adys | does that mean it has to be left alone if people dont care about it? |
| 16:25.44 | Adys | imagine you got a bug in your app, but its minor and no one cares about it even though the fix is easy |
| 16:25.50 | Adys | you leave it because no one cares about it? |
| 16:26.04 | foxlit | Adys: now imagine your app is full of bugs that are MAJOR and PEOPLE CARE ABOUT. |
| 16:26.12 | foxlit | That'd be the state of wowwiki's API docs. |
| 16:26.15 | Adys | my apps arent like that |
| 16:26.17 | Adys | yours, maybe |
| 16:27.11 | Ackis | Adys: I added the out of date flag to it also if that means anything? :P |
| 16:27.21 | Adys | yeah |
| 16:27.40 | Adys | ill make a small script to update that once Im done with this parser |
| 16:28.28 | Ackis | i just find a lot of things on wowwiki out of date/ugly and don't have the time/knowledge/ability to prettify them |
| 16:29.45 | Ackis | zone_1, zone_2, ..., zone_N = GetMapZones(continentIndex); |
| 16:30.01 | Ackis | why don't they just return a table of the zone names? |
| 16:30.18 | alestane | Garbage. |
| 16:30.30 | foxlit | You can always put it in a table |
| 16:31.08 | Ackis | eh is there an easy way to parse n arguements when you don't know n? |
| 16:31.24 | foxlit | returns, not arguments? |
| 16:31.33 | Ackis | yah my bad |
| 16:31.45 | Ackis | thinking along the line of select(x,...) |
| 16:32.21 | foxlit | You can't assign to ..., unfortunately |
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| 16:32.57 | foxlit | So your choices are either to stuff that return list in a table and work with the table; pass it to a vararg function and handle it there; or just call the source function multiple times. |
| 16:32.58 | alestane | (function (...) for i=1, select('#', ...) process(select(i, ...)) end)(args) |
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| 16:34.10 | Ackis | ty foxlit and alestane... was hoping for something a bit more elegant |
| 16:34.19 | Ackis | alas that shall not be the case |
| 16:38.14 | Ackis | on a more pathetic note, I spent about 10 hours debugging code that had this line in it: local icon = CreateFrame("Button",WorldMapFrame,WorldMapDetailFrame) |
| 16:38.18 | alestane | I've suggested something like do with (...) end, but the people who responded seemed to feel that what we had was good enough. |
| 16:38.38 | Ackis | apparently I've forgotten how to create frames |
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| 16:49.56 | Adys | ffs |
| 16:50.02 | Adys | wowhead and its popup and popunder ads.. |
| 16:50.37 | haste | wowi has one also :( |
| 16:50.47 | haste | party poker one is so annying |
| 16:50.56 | Adys | at least its not on the main page on wi |
| 16:51.03 | Lopeppeppy | The ad people have found new ways to program their ads. All celebrate the fun of uniqueness! |
| 16:51.05 | haste | it's on the community page at least |
| 16:51.07 | haste | seems random |
| 16:51.24 | Adys | its on the main page every damn time here |
| 16:51.46 | Adys | using wowdb mostly now, wh only when Im comparing |
| 16:52.00 | Ackis | Adys: has wowdb gotten better? |
| 16:52.16 | Adys | it was never bad, its just incomplete |
| 16:52.26 | Ackis | inaccurate |
| 16:52.29 | Ackis | misleading |
| 16:52.36 | Ackis | incorrect |
| 16:52.40 | Ackis | buggy |
| 16:52.52 | Adys | got something else than synonyms? :P |
| 16:53.04 | Lopeppeppy | duplicitous |
| 16:53.05 | amro | get a premium account on wowi |
| 16:53.06 | Ackis | heh |
| 16:53.27 | Adys | wh is inaccurate too |
| 16:53.27 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=46917 |
| 16:53.35 | Adys | this was what i was just comparing now |
| 16:53.39 | Adys | the 0% doesnt seem right |
| 16:53.43 | Adys | seeing this stuff regularly |
| 16:54.16 | Ackis | Adys: but wh won't say a recipes is skill x when it's skill y, and won't state that it's unknown acquire when it's from a trainer :P |
| 16:54.46 | Adys | are there multiple ranks for titan's grip? |
| 16:55.03 | Adys | http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=50483 |
| 16:55.04 | Adys | man |
| 16:55.05 | Adys | hackt |
| 16:55.06 | Adys | hacky |
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| 17:28.41 | Thesloth | anyone feel like helping a nub? |
| 17:29.31 | haste | ~asktoask |
| 17:29.32 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 17:30.22 | Thesloth | ok, want someone to look at my code. Ive gone through tutorials and thought I had it but apparently not. should I spam here? |
| 17:30.31 | |Jelly| | no |
| 17:30.39 | |Jelly| | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ |
| 17:30.43 | Lopeppeppy | Use the pastey in the topic for your code. *nod* |
| 17:30.53 | Thesloth | kk |
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| 17:35.47 | Thesloth | I want a basic button to appear on load |
| 17:35.47 | Thesloth | XML: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/108374 |
| 17:35.47 | Thesloth | LUA: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/108376 |
| 17:35.47 | Thesloth | TOC: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/108377 |
| 17:37.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Check your Logs\FrameXML.log file |
| 17:38.47 | alestane | your xml looks invalid, for starters. |
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| 17:39.34 | jnwhiteh | the frame is most likely there |
| 17:39.39 | jnwhiteh | just has no texture |
| 17:39.43 | jnwhiteh | thus isn't visible. |
| 17:39.53 | alestane | you have a size tag inside an anchors tag, which generally doesn't fly. |
| 17:40.01 | jnwhiteh | indeed |
| 17:40.04 | jnwhiteh | among other issues |
| 17:40.50 | ScytheBlade1 | If you need a quick n' dirty XML check, you can use this little tool that I wrote: http://dev.averageurl.com/wow/xml/ |
| 17:41.01 | ScytheBlade1 | But using a quality XML editor is preferred |
| 17:41.01 | Thesloth | haha ok yeah my first one.. I added the size in the anchor after first failure. perhaps I remove that and add texture then. |
| 17:41.11 | Thesloth | ok thanks Ill check it out |
| 17:41.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Err whoops, my CSD seems broke |
| 17:41.30 | alestane | and nothing is calling the onload that you defined. |
| 17:41.40 | ScytheBlade1 | s/C/X/ |
| 17:42.15 | |Jelly| | A super quick and dirty method would be opening the XML file in Firefox. :P |
| 17:44.01 | ScytheBlade1 | There we go, all fixed up and working |
| 17:48.04 | Thesloth | Thanks guys, Scythe I tried your checker before I came here but the errors confused me :), It works now and I got to the point where the XML is valid. Now to figure out how to call my RaidReady_OnLoad() function. |
| 17:48.26 | ScytheBlade1 | That doesn't really surprise me :) |
| 17:48.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Visual Studio Express (the free edition) has a fantastic XML editor which would help you immenesely. |
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| 18:06.28 | Lunessa | station |
| 18:06.56 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Lunessa. |
| 18:07.03 | Lopeppeppy | Did you shoot down a UFO last night? |
| 18:07.03 | Lunessa | hi hi. |
| 18:07.40 | Lunessa | No, but I did cast Rain of Fire. |
| 18:07.50 | Lopeppeppy | oh, okay, that explains the news then. |
| 18:08.01 | Lunessa | :D |
| 18:10.20 | Lunessa | Today is Supremus - "The ground begins to crack open!" |
| 18:10.51 | selckin | constructs in the raid!!! |
| 18:12.41 | Lopeppeppy | Handle it! |
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| 18:14.35 | Zyndrome | *** PARASITE: Seerah *** |
| 18:14.48 | Zyndrome | oh god move |
| 18:14.51 | Zyndrome | D: |
| 18:18.39 | Lunessa | Get out of the fire. |
| 18:18.47 | Lunessa | You're standing in the fire. |
| 18:18.56 | Lunessa | DAMNIT MAN - GET OUT OF THE FIRE. |
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| 18:21.31 | Zyndrome | TBC: fires, WotLK: voidzones |
| 18:21.32 | Zyndrome | :< |
| 18:22.42 | Lopeppeppy | Do not stand in the poo, whatever color it is! |
| 18:24.36 | Matrix110 | Voidzones where evil when you couldnt see them half the time :D |
| 18:24.51 | Lopeppeppy | I crank my spell detail for just that reason. :) |
| 18:25.28 | Matrix110 | Well that wasnt the case |
| 18:25.38 | Matrix110 | they were plainly bugged in Vanilla wow 4H |
| 18:25.56 | Matrix110 | mhhh |
| 18:26.13 | Matrix110 | A bottle fell on my keyboard and pressed SOMETHING |
| 18:26.21 | Matrix110 | now iam marked "gone" |
| 18:26.24 | Matrix110 | good to now |
| 18:26.42 | Matrix110 | *know |
| 18:27.35 | Lopeppeppy | Wonder how we unmark you? (I don't see you as "gone" on my screen, btw) |
| 18:28.54 | Matrix110 | I dont really care :D |
| 18:29.32 | Matrix110 | Another time when my cat walked over my keyboard it pressed a BUtton that BROKE the application I had to reinstall it it just refused working again even after reboot etc. :D |
| 18:29.52 | Lopeppeppy | Must love cats. |
| 18:30.44 | Zyndrome | not when they make you their bitch |
| 18:30.52 | Zyndrome | like sit and meow until you get up and let him out |
| 18:31.02 | Matrix110 | Cat door ftw |
| 18:31.30 | Zyndrome | my cat is so confused, that if I had a cat door, he'd be standing in it all day |
| 18:32.25 | Lunessa | All I can say to this is .. WTF? http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20090216 |
| 18:34.53 | Lopeppeppy | You haven't seen the Shamwow commercials? |
| 18:36.02 | Lunessa | I don't watch regular TV. I DVR two shows and catch a couple others on hulu |
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| 18:42.50 | Consite | There's a bank alt on my server named Shamwow. |
| 18:43.07 | Lopeppeppy | Shamwow is... for hideousness. |
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| 19:11.12 | |Jelly| | http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x98/vrykyl250/SHAMWOW.jpg (possibly not safe for work -- cursing) |
| 19:12.30 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle* |
| 19:12.52 | Lunessa | LOL |
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| 19:13.16 | Lunessa | Ok, now the comic makes sense. |
| 19:13.49 | |Jelly| | "It sucks, while it cuts." " Well it certainly does suck." |
| 19:15.39 | Lunessa | It's sucking my will to live. |
| 19:18.03 | |Jelly| | BTW, my roomie has a snuggie. I decided the say she brought it home that I wanted to die. |
| 19:18.22 | Lopeppeppy | .... I'm sorry. |
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| 19:18.54 | |Jelly| | https://www.getsnuggie.com/flare/next You people seriously need to get updated on your infomercials. |
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| 19:19.23 | Lopeppeppy | I've been sewing a lot this last 2 weeks, I have stupid TV on in the background while I sew. |
| 19:20.40 | Lunessa | .... I wouldn't use a snuggie unless it came with ... certain favors. |
| 19:20.59 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. Big serious favors. |
| 19:21.32 | foxlit | wow's skybox cheats :/ |
| 19:21.53 | foxlit | It's unreasonable that the sky turns from pretty northern lights to doom, death and destruction over 5 yards :/ |
| 19:22.18 | nevcairiel | I've always thought the fast changing environment and sky had a nice feeling to it |
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| 19:22.39 | foxlit | And they don't even have one for Crystalsong |
| 19:22.43 | foxlit | slap in the face! |
| 19:22.50 | Lopeppeppy | *gasp* |
| 19:23.35 | Lunessa | foxlit: I'll slap you in the face. WITH A SKYBOX. |
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| 19:25.59 | foxlit | nevcairiel: It's nice to have a contrast between the zones, but it gets a bit unreal if you're flying close to a zone boundary |
| 19:26.23 | foxlit | not that "real" is a reasonable expectation. |
| 19:26.33 | nevcairiel | Even happens within zones |
| 19:26.36 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 19:27.00 | foxlit | relatively rare :) |
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| 19:29.17 | tourett_ | http://change.pennergame.de/change_please/2520711/ |
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| 19:35.50 | Lunessa | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:37.07 | Shirik | rawr |
| 19:37.15 | Lopeppeppy | OMG it doesn't get better than what was already in the thread, idjit. |
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| 19:37.20 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr2U, Shirik. |
| 19:37.27 | Adys | SHURUJ |
| 19:37.30 | Adys | Shirik. |
| 19:37.33 | Shirik | omfg someone told him to turn off UAC? |
| 19:37.45 | Lunessa | Yeah. /facepalm |
| 19:38.05 | Adys | "wer else is ther to put it if not in programes?" |
| 19:38.16 | Adys | Now I'm not a native English |
| 19:38.30 | Adys | and I don't try to pretend my english is the best |
| 19:38.40 | Adys | but how.. can you spell "where" as "wer" |
| 19:38.41 | TecnoBrat | Everything is UAC's fault! |
| 19:38.50 | Aquavette | OoO i agree completely |
| 19:39.05 | Lunessa | Let's just give everyone root all the time and let the chips fall where they may! Woo! |
| 19:39.29 | nevcairiel | I want Win7 already, so i can actually turn UAC on again |
| 19:39.32 | nevcairiel | Vista just fails |
| 19:39.48 | Adys | UAC kindof fails in the first place |
| 19:39.55 | foxlit | They really should block posts that contain nothing but quotes of other posts |
| 19:40.09 | foxlit | (or, well, make them visible only to their poster) |
| 19:40.09 | Adys | [21:40:00] <foxlit> They really should block posts that contain nothing but quotes of other posts |
| 19:40.14 | Aquavette | Honestly, XP coudl be setup like how mac works |
| 19:40.20 | Lunessa | Here's the caveat though - you don't get to complain when your machine is hacked, your id stolen, your data stolen corrupted, your wife leaves you 'cause she found your animal porn stash, or the FBI locks you up for hosting kidde porn you stuipd pricks. |
| 19:40.22 | Aquavette | i've had that for a long time |
| 19:40.54 | Shirik | UAC doesn't fail really |
| 19:41.00 | Shirik | people just don't want to think about that stuff |
| 19:41.01 | nevcairiel | Lunessa: even with UAC you dont get to complain, since its most likely still your fault |
| 19:41.08 | Adys | yeah |
| 19:41.09 | Shirik | do you complain about having to su to root? |
| 19:41.10 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: Yup. |
| 19:41.13 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: meh, i suggest a minimum amount of original content per post, with heavy moderation. :P |
| 19:41.15 | Adys | you should know how to make a folder hidden |
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| 19:41.20 | Adys | Shirik: I login as root |
| 19:41.25 | Adys | Im ircing as root actually |
| 19:41.25 | Shirik | ok then you are wrong |
| 19:41.33 | Adys | Im just kidding, wanted to see your face |
| 19:41.34 | Adys | :( |
| 19:41.36 | Shirik | :P |
| 19:41.36 | Lunessa | I was just you know, ranting for humor's sake. |
| 19:41.45 | zenzelezz | Shirik: there are different ways of failing. Most people just don't want to see the paranoid warnings all the time |
| 19:41.49 | Shirik | Adys, it wouldn't do much to me |
| 19:41.54 | Shirik | I have a friend who logs in as root |
| 19:42.10 | Lopeppeppy | I have a root that logs in as friend. |
| 19:42.15 | Adys | if you use polkit |
| 19:42.26 | Adys | imagine having polkit warnings pop up for... almost every program |
| 19:42.28 | Adys | every 5 mins |
| 19:42.28 | Shirik | my favorite part, his distro colors the uname in bash red when yoi log in as root, and green when you're not root |
| 19:42.33 | nevcairiel | Shirik: in my case, Vista and UAC fail. I have my wow folder on a shared harddrive, and its owned by a Group, this group has full access, and of course my user is in that group. BUT, with UAC on, WoW cannot write its WTF. Win7 however finally manages to get group access right :p |
| 19:42.33 | Shirik | and I'm like "see that red, that means bad!" |
| 19:42.38 | Shirik | and he's like "Yeah but I like red :( " |
| 19:42.58 | Adys | Shirik: Debian used to have a bomb wallpaper for root accounts |
| 19:43.03 | Adys | havent seen it in lenny tho |
| 19:43.13 | Shirik | nevcairiel: I think you did something wrong imo |
| 19:43.19 | nevcairiel | No i didnt |
| 19:43.22 | Shirik | yeah I remember Adys |
| 19:43.24 | nevcairiel | its a known issue :P |
| 19:43.30 | Shirik | or was that SuSE that did that |
| 19:43.40 | Shirik | I forget |
| 19:44.42 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: Vista does some funky stuff with shares and profiles. I deal with it daily. Sucks, but is still an improvement over XP in many ways. However, I wish SYMLINKS were a bit more bullet-proof. |
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| 19:45.38 | Shirik | I don't use symlinks, they don't make any sense on windows :) |
| 19:45.43 | nevcairiel | Yeah i like vista, i just have to turn off UAC for the time being, waiting for Win7 release to keep it active |
| 19:46.17 | Adys | Shirik: except |
| 19:46.32 | Adys | I had to make someone symlink some shit to get a python program working a couple of days ago |
| 19:46.35 | Adys | on vista |
| 19:46.49 | Adys | and believe me those have been the most painful 30 mins of my life |
| 19:47.06 | Adys | ... for example, WTF is up with "Permission denied" when a FOLDER doesnt exist |
| 19:47.33 | Shirik | well |
| 19:47.38 | Shirik | it denied permission to access that folder |
| 19:47.43 | Shirik | because it didn't exist |
| 19:48.14 | End | wtf |
| 19:48.20 | Shirik | :P |
| 19:48.26 | End | my apartment complex just changed owners again |
| 19:48.28 | foxlit | It could also have denied you permission to access an earlier fragment of the path |
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| 19:50.20 | Adys | ok er |
| 19:50.24 | Adys | ill give you a concrete example |
| 19:51.58 | Adys | http://pastebin.com/d3f8ba17 |
| 19:52.00 | Adys | this |
| 19:52.05 | Adys | normal warnings |
| 19:52.07 | Adys | what you expect |
| 19:52.23 | Adys | for ALL of this, windows says "Permission denied" |
| 19:52.25 | Adys | screwed up |
| 19:53.02 | Aquavette | looks like an id10t error to me |
| 19:53.10 | Shirik | well maybe it's like "user detected as stupid, denied" |
| 19:53.26 | Adys | or maybe |
| 19:53.36 | Adys | its like "major fail in warnings, denied" |
| 19:54.02 | Aquavette | don't wish wish windows had: sudo |
| 19:54.17 | Aquavette | *you |
| 19:54.23 | Adys | I hear cygwin is awesome |
| 19:54.38 | Aquavette | actually i like windows powershell |
| 19:54.39 | Shirik | it does, Aquavette :) |
| 19:54.59 | Aquavette | I know, but it doesn't have a straight up sudo command, you can't open command prompt and fire off sudo |
| 19:55.04 | Shirik | sure it does |
| 19:55.09 | Shirik | mine does :D |
| 19:55.25 | Aquavette | the default install of windows doesn't though |
| 19:55.27 | Aquavette | is what i'm saying |
| 19:55.44 | Shirik | well Windows 7 has a nice little feature that makes it easier to convert to admin prompt |
| 19:55.57 | Shirik | ctrl+shift+click task bar = respawn app as admin |
| 19:56.27 | Shirik | alternatively you can always do windows->cmd->ctrl+shift+enter |
| 19:56.27 | Aquavette | hell i use a mac more now than i use windows |
| 19:56.29 | *** join/#wowuidev Teomyr (i=teo@HSI-KBW-091-089-241-234.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 19:56.35 | Lunessa | Unless, you know, you're a user in a network environment who is explicitly denied admin access! |
| 19:56.37 | Shirik | but that was in windows |
| 19:56.37 | Adys | ~lart Teomyr |
| 19:56.37 | purl | follow's Teomyr with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION |
| 19:56.43 | Shirik | Lunessa... |
| 19:56.46 | Shirik | It TRIES to |
| 19:56.47 | Aquavette | yea, Domain controllers chain everything |
| 19:56.48 | Shirik | ok :P |
| 19:56.59 | Aquavette | but that is out of the scope of the convo |
| 19:57.05 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 19:57.32 | Lunessa | I actually like the fact that 90% of the campus users are not admins on their machines, and can't get admin access on them. |
| 19:57.41 | Aquavette | i'm doing domain controller setuip for a business right now |
| 19:58.00 | Aquavette | Windows 2003 R2 to Windows 2008 |
| 19:58.04 | Aquavette | fun...... |
| 19:58.26 | Adys | back to work |
| 19:59.13 | Aquavette | work is overrated |
| 19:59.26 | Adys | ffs |
| 19:59.29 | Adys | Agent admitted failure to sign using the key. |
| 19:59.34 | Adys | every time i update... |
| 19:59.38 | Aquavette | i'm setting here playing soliatre while my unattended scripts go to work |
| 19:59.43 | Aquavette | *solitare |
| 20:00.32 | Adys | there! |
| 20:00.34 | Adys | commited my work \o/ |
| 20:01.01 | Tekkub | http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20090216 |
| 20:01.05 | Tekkub | fuck, that's trey |
| 20:01.16 | Tekkub | we can't keep nyquill in the house more than a fucking week |
| 20:01.31 | Adys | creepy |
| 20:02.11 | Adys | [###############\ ] 72kB @ 1kB/s | Uploading data to master branch - Stage:Copying signature texts:Copied record 0 |
| 20:02.11 | Adys | >< |
| 20:02.46 | Shirik | A testament to IE and its badness |
| 20:02.46 | Thrae | 240 minutes until my RAID5 is done reshaping! |
| 20:02.57 | Shirik | JIRA has an option: Internet Explorer MIME Sniffing Security Hole Workaround Policy Work around Internet Explorer security hole |
| 20:03.07 | Aquavette | yea, I scrubed my raid 5 last night |
| 20:03.12 | Lopeppeppy | It's cold season, Tekkub |
| 20:03.14 | Aquavette | because i had to pull a disk |
| 20:03.33 | Shirik | you should be able to pull a disk and it still works just fine |
| 20:03.34 | Thrae | Aquavette: I'm adding one (well, part of one) |
| 20:03.38 | Shirik | well, you still have your data at least |
| 20:03.40 | Tekkub | no floppy, I mean, no matter how much nyquill we buy, the next time it's needed there is none |
| 20:03.49 | Aquavette | two dropped offline |
| 20:03.54 | Thrae | Shirik: Depends on how many disks are left |
| 20:04.04 | Thrae | It can't go below 3 |
| 20:04.06 | Shirik | I assumed they all worked |
| 20:04.10 | Lopeppeppy | Never enough Nyquil in the world. |
| 20:04.11 | Shirik | yes, if you had 3 and pulled one |
| 20:04.12 | Aquavette | yea, they all worked |
| 20:04.14 | Shirik | you still have your data |
| 20:04.22 | Shirik | it's just no longer able to operate in raid 5 |
| 20:04.23 | Aquavette | You can have 4, pull 2, start a rebuild |
| 20:04.32 | Aquavette | and your back up and running when its done scrubbing |
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| 20:04.41 | Thrae | So it's 2? Right, 3 is needed to be active. It's just not redundant with 3. |
| 20:04.41 | Aquavette | I did it last night |
| 20:04.48 | Shirik | It's redundant with 3 |
| 20:04.53 | Shirik | 2 disks + 1 parity |
| 20:05.06 | Thrae | It's not very redundant. |
| 20:05.09 | Aquavette | well if your raid is setup with a parity disk |
| 20:05.10 | Shirik | why not? |
| 20:05.14 | Aquavette | I do distrubuted parity |
| 20:05.16 | Shirik | Aquavette, that's what RAID 5 is... |
| 20:05.23 | Aquavette | no, you can do distrubuted parity |
| 20:05.30 | Aquavette | and not have jsut a parity disk |
| 20:05.33 | Aquavette | I've seen both setup's |
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| 20:05.41 | Shirik | That's irrelevant |
| 20:05.48 | Shirik | the correction manner is identical |
| 20:06.18 | Chrille | Greeting! Since I know allot of you AH players are hanging in here I thought of throwing out this question here; Does anyone have a good suggestion for a tradechannel barker addon, so one dosen't have to do a /2 WTS etc etc every time? |
| 20:06.22 | Aquavette | Yes, the correction manner is identical |
| 20:06.23 | Shirik | oh wait, Thrae, my math sucks yes |
| 20:06.26 | Shirik | you're right |
| 20:07.02 | Aquavette | raid 5 is a minimum of 3 disks isn't it? |
| 20:07.15 | Shirik | yes |
| 20:07.18 | Codayus_ | Yes. |
| 20:07.18 | Aquavette | thought so |
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| 20:07.42 | Shirik | There should be a hamming code raid array |
| 20:07.50 | Shirik | god that would be expensive |
| 20:07.50 | Aquavette | I'm actually liking raid less by the day |
| 20:08.09 | Thrae | Aquavette: Do you have a super-expensive raid controller or just fakeraid? |
| 20:08.19 | Shirik | oh, RAID 2 is hamming code |
| 20:08.21 | Aquavette | I have a Dell PERC |
| 20:08.27 | Thrae | Ahh |
| 20:08.28 | Shirik | I'm not very innovative :( |
| 20:08.31 | Aquavette | I have 2 dell poweredge 2650's |
| 20:08.34 | Aquavette | that run in my house |
| 20:08.38 | Aquavette | each with perc 3/di controllers |
| 20:08.39 | Thrae | I never did trust Dell's implementations |
| 20:08.47 | Aquavette | they are made by adaptec |
| 20:09.08 | Thrae | Yeah, but you know they cheap out. Coming from someone who had to service them. |
| 20:09.20 | Aquavette | Oh yea, i service them too |
| 20:09.23 | Aquavette | and they do cheap out |
| 20:09.30 | Aquavette | but there is a lot worse out there |
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| 20:09.39 | Thrae | Then again, your implementation is probably safer then my mdadm implementation, but mdadm is more configurable to my needs. |
| 20:09.44 | Thrae | True, true. |
| 20:09.59 | Aquavette | I've got 4 u320 scsi disks |
| 20:10.05 | Aquavette | setup on a raid 5 |
| 20:10.39 | Aquavette | 4 146 gb scsi drives |
| 20:10.47 | Aquavette | http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/2650_specs.pdf |
| 20:10.57 | Aquavette | full specs if you want to know, it was cheap on ebay, cost me 200 bucks |
| 20:11.08 | Thrae | I have a RAID5, RAID10, and RAID1 setup in the same machine. I find it easier with software RAID to keep boot and root on a RAID1. |
| 20:11.08 | Shirik | no, Thrae, you should be able to rebuild |
| 20:11.13 | Shirik | If you know which drive is lost |
| 20:11.16 | Shirik | in RAID 5 |
| 20:11.30 | Aquavette | I like raid 1+0 |
| 20:11.31 | Aquavette | personally |
| 20:11.49 | Shirik | it relies on knowing which drive is lost though |
| 20:11.54 | Thrae | Yeah my critical files are RAID10/RAID1+0, then backed up again on the RAID5 |
| 20:12.03 | Aquavette | yea, but with a full blown server like I have |
| 20:12.10 | Aquavette | I can see which drive is dead |
| 20:12.35 | Shirik | As the number of disks in a RAID 5 group increases, the Mean Time Between Failures (MTBF, the reciprocal of the failure rate) can become lower than that of a single disk. |
| 20:12.35 | Aquavette | it flashes the tray LED's |
| 20:12.37 | Shirik | lol ^ |
| 20:12.37 | Thrae | I need to setup email.... |
| 20:12.58 | Shirik | Wikipedia gets into stupid discussions sometimes |
| 20:13.01 | Aquavette | yea it does |
| 20:13.08 | Shirik | they're talking about like putting 50 disks in RAID 5 |
| 20:13.17 | Aquavette | Thrae: your setup is similar to mine |
| 20:13.36 | Aquavette | 2 of those servers i linked, 1 in raid 10, 1+0, and the other in Raid 5 |
| 20:14.13 | Aquavette | the only thing i wish those bastards had was support for bigger drives |
| 20:14.24 | Thrae | Aquavette: Stops at what? |
| 20:14.46 | Aquavette | Thrae: I don't get what you mean |
| 20:14.55 | Thrae | Aquavette: What's the drive limit? |
| 20:14.59 | Aquavette | oooo |
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| 20:15.19 | Aquavette | The maximum the drives the bios on the controllers will see is 146 gb u320 |
| 20:15.29 | Aquavette | you can't put anything bigger in there |
| 20:15.34 | Thrae | Ahhh |
| 20:15.38 | nevcairiel | Get a better controller? :) |
| 20:15.53 | Codayus_ | Mmm, I had a drive fail in a raid 5 array last week. Since it was a server it popped up an alert, then automatically rolled over to the hot spare. I felt all cool and stuff. Then the rebuild took like 2 days, and I began to wonder if raid 5 was the right choice. *sigh* |
| 20:15.56 | Aquavette | scsi is kinda going out the window though, SAS is taking over |
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| 20:16.13 | Thrae | It's all proprietary -- you'd have to replace a lot of crap, and it'd cost too much as Aquavette just said |
| 20:16.23 | Aquavette | yup, and honestly |
| 20:16.29 | Aquavette | I can toss in a pci-x esata card |
| 20:16.34 | Aquavette | and get an esata box |
| 20:16.38 | Aquavette | and my problem is fixed |
| 20:16.49 | ccox | .. or my last server failure. It was supposed to be configured as RAID 5. Someone configured it as RAID 0. Thank goodness for backup tapes. |
| 20:16.55 | Codayus_ | Next time, I'll just go for larger drives, raid 10, and forget about the marginally higher overheads. |
| 20:17.13 | Codayus_ | ccox: ouch |
| 20:17.14 | Aquavette | Codayus_: your right imo, because drives are cheap now |
| 20:17.24 | Aquavette | Whats a 500gb sata drive, 50 bucks? |
| 20:17.49 | ccox | Codayus_: fortunately it was just a delay, we only lost a little bit. But from now on, we want to verify the server configs ourselves.... |
| 20:17.52 | ScytheBlade1 | 2TB for $300 |
| 20:18.07 | Thrae | Aquavette: About. They're $1/GB OEM, and 1.5TB is $0.086/GB (Seagate). |
| 20:18.10 | Codayus_ | ccox: Heh |
| 20:18.10 | Aquavette | Thrae: You love the BS dell's do when you have to move from one raid controller in one box to another |
| 20:18.48 | Aquavette | I was looking at just plain old SATA drives last night on newegg and they were like 50 bucks for 500 gigs |
| 20:18.52 | Thrae | Aquavette: About 1% of those Seagate drives has bad firmware, which is why they're cheaper and the "Sweet Spot" (problem can be fixed with a firmware flash IF it happens) |
| 20:19.18 | Aquavette | ooo your talking about the ones that they run on sell all the time |
| 20:19.32 | Aquavette | I honestly stick to western digital |
| 20:19.49 | ccox | 2TB can be found just under US$200 |
| 20:19.55 | ccox | (frys.com) |
| 20:20.02 | Codayus_ | I've had decent luck with Seagate, but...meh, small sample size. |
| 20:20.09 | Aquavette | I wish Serial Attached SCSI would come down in price |
| 20:20.18 | Adys | mine's a Hitachi |
| 20:20.30 | Adys | 1tb, lasted over a year now |
| 20:20.32 | Thrae | The WD 2TB have had bad luck like the 1.5TB Seagates |
| 20:20.35 | Codayus_ | I just make sure not to ever touch Hitachi or Samsung. |
| 20:20.45 | Adys | why not? |
| 20:20.45 | Aquavette | ^ |
| 20:20.47 | Codayus_ | And yeah, I know the newer Hitachi's are fine. |
| 20:20.59 | Aquavette | i don't buy anything bigger than 750 gig drives |
| 20:21.03 | Aquavette | thats my max size |
| 20:21.07 | Lunessa | Now you guys are making me think I need another TB in my home machine... |
| 20:21.12 | nevcairiel | Isnt Hitachi what was IBM before? the death drives? |
| 20:21.13 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa. *laugh* |
| 20:21.16 | Adys | bs Lunessa |
| 20:21.17 | Codayus_ | Adys: Hitachi bought IBMs Deathstar line. |
| 20:21.30 | Lunessa | My PC = DVR and I never delete anything... |
| 20:21.32 | Aquavette | Why do you guys want the super big drives? |
| 20:21.43 | Adys | Lunessa: you cant begin to imagine the AMOUNT of extremely heavy crap I store on my hd |
| 20:21.46 | Adys | yet |
| 20:21.50 | Adys | Im only using 600gb or so |
| 20:21.54 | Aquavette | Oh you guys should see my hard drives |
| 20:21.55 | Adys | and no |
| 20:21.56 | Adys | its not porn |
| 20:22.02 | Aquavette | its not porn either... |
| 20:22.11 | Aquavette | I stopped chaning dvd disks a long time ago |
| 20:22.17 | Adys | I hope so Aquavette otherwise we shouldnt see it |
| 20:22.19 | Adys | not in here anyway |
| 20:22.24 | Lunessa | Adys: I was up to nearly 500gb - I finally deleted some old shows. |
| 20:22.32 | Aquavette | I have like 200 dvd's ripped to drives |
| 20:22.33 | Adys | Im storing old shows too |
| 20:22.35 | Adys | actually fuck that |
| 20:22.40 | Adys | i got the entire monty python fc |
| 20:22.50 | Adys | and similar sized shows |
| 20:22.55 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 20:23.01 | Adys | but i wasnt even mentioning that |
| 20:23.06 | Adys | I got something like 20 wow installs |
| 20:23.08 | Aquavette | I had to erase my 10 seasons of stargate |
| 20:23.12 | Lopeppeppy | *gasp* |
| 20:23.12 | Aquavette | i cried... |
| 20:23.20 | Adys | and a few hundred patches |
| 20:23.25 | Adys | make that thousand prolly |
| 20:23.26 | Lopeppeppy | Y'all get me Dresden Files and Dead Like Me, I'll be happy. |
| 20:23.33 | Lunessa | Prior to recording TV onto my drive, I never used that much disk space... |
| 20:23.37 | Aquavette | Dresden files didn't last long did it |
| 20:23.42 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Dresden files are on Hulu |
| 20:23.47 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, one season or so. |
| 20:23.48 | Aquavette | WTF is hulu |
| 20:23.51 | Aquavette | i've seen that |
| 20:23.52 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, maybe I checks this out tonight. |
| 20:23.54 | Lunessa | hulu.com |
| 20:24.04 | Lunessa | Only really useful to US residents. |
| 20:24.11 | Aquavette | is it pay service? |
| 20:24.25 | Lunessa | No, it's free - but you sit through ads. |
| 20:24.50 | Lunessa | It's flash-based. |
| 20:24.52 | Thrae | Aquavette: OK, $60 for 500GB ($0.12/GB, All) and $90 for 1TB ($0.9/GB, Hitachi), and $130 for 1.5TB ($0.86, Seagate) |
| 20:24.56 | alestane | It's sponsored, in otherwords. |
| 20:24.59 | Lunessa | yes. |
| 20:25.29 | Lunessa | Oh, and peppy - it's not like there were more than a season's worth of novels to draw from. |
| 20:25.30 | Thrae | 1.5TB is the entire capacity of my RAID5, heh. But I didn't make a RAID5 just to get more space. |
| 20:25.57 | Lopeppeppy | I know, Lunessa, but... but.... |
| 20:26.00 | Adys | people dont make raid arrays for space |
| 20:26.02 | Lunessa | Even if the show bore very little resemblance to the novels. |
| 20:26.02 | Aquavette | See, Thrae showed why i do smaller drives |
| 20:26.02 | Adys | but for EPEEN |
| 20:26.05 | Adys | ~epeen++ |
| 20:26.10 | Adys | ~karma epeen |
| 20:26.10 | purl | epeen has karma of 1 |
| 20:26.21 | Aquavette | ffs windows updates |
| 20:26.35 | Thrae | I bought one of the 1.5TB Seagates for data I just want stored, since it's so damn cheap now |
| 20:26.54 | Thrae | I ended up adding it into my RAID5 and will use the other 1TB for storage |
| 20:26.57 | Aquavette | Yea, for random work crap, i don't blame you, but all the stuff that actually give 2 shits about |
| 20:27.48 | Thrae | Yeah, like I get tons of TV downloaded, and other people might want to watch it, so I save it. But since I already watched it, I don't need it online anymore. |
| 20:28.06 | Thrae | I also have about 1TB worth of smaller IDE drives I collected over the years I use through USB. |
| 20:28.17 | Aquavette | yea, I stopped buying DVD's of tv series |
| 20:28.25 | Aquavette | i can record them in 1080i anyway |
| 20:28.42 | Thrae | In my case, it's mostly fansubbed Anime that may never see NA |
| 20:29.04 | Aquavette | I'm actually conisdering buying some dvd's of a tv show, because it was on like 10 years ago |
| 20:29.06 | Aquavette | before DVR |
| 20:29.07 | Thrae | And 1080P/720P TV that won't get a Blu-ray release for a long time |
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| 20:29.27 | Aquavette | yea, honestly |
| 20:29.39 | Thrae | The immediate downloads go on the RAID10 to reduce I/O overhead |
| 20:29.42 | Aquavette | someone tried to tell me that blu-ray wouldn't stick around that long, that a new disc format would take over |
| 20:30.09 | Aquavette | I kinda laughed and said, Blu-ray is gonna be the last disk format.... direct download will take over when they get the DRM stuff sorted out |
| 20:30.15 | Thrae | Did you know just about 2 months ago, Panasonic stopped making Laserdiscs? |
| 20:30.25 | Aquavette | That doesnt' suprise me |
| 20:30.29 | Lopeppeppy | Was a sad day |
| 20:30.30 | Thrae | That is, Laserdisc Players. |
| 20:30.38 | Aquavette | Laserdisc was ahead of its time |
| 20:30.39 | Aquavette | too far ahead |
| 20:31.02 | Aquavette | if laserdisc would have came out when dvd did |
| 20:31.09 | Aquavette | and matched up like hd-dvd and blu-ray |
| 20:31.17 | Aquavette | there would have been a format war |
| 20:31.21 | Lopeppeppy | we would still have had to choose. :) |
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| 20:32.30 | Aquavette | you know DVD is the only format that realy didn't have a competitor |
| 20:32.59 | Aquavette | VHS vs. Betamax, DVD, HD-DVD vs. Blu-RAY, AAC versus MP3 |
| 20:33.17 | nevcairiel | BluRay already won, so shrug :) |
| 20:33.28 | End | VHS already won too! |
| 20:33.34 | Tem | http://i41.tinypic.com/25iup9i.jpg |
| 20:33.41 | Aquavette | i was just stating the competiting competitor though |
| 20:33.44 | NightHawkTheSane | your MOM won |
| 20:33.53 | foxlit | (the game) |
| 20:33.53 | End | did she? |
| 20:33.54 | nevcairiel | lol Tem |
| 20:34.10 | Aquavette | brb |
| 20:34.16 | Tem | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/78803526 |
| 20:34.33 | Shirik | I really don't get that site |
| 20:34.46 | End | isn't that the point? |
| 20:34.51 | End | it doesn't make any sense! |
| 20:34.52 | Lopeppeppy | It just shows that 90% of the Garfield comics are perfectly funny without the fat orange cat. |
| 20:35.03 | Shirik | I don't find them funny >.> |
| 20:35.12 | Lopeppeppy | Get more sleep, dear. |
| 20:35.17 | Lopeppeppy | When is spring break? |
| 20:35.21 | Shirik | dunno |
| 20:35.26 | Shirik | it's always spring break around here |
| 20:35.28 | End | clearly you don't appreciate the absurd |
| 20:36.26 | Aquavette | and its 5 o'clock somewhere |
| 20:36.34 | End | lol whut http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/75048288 |
| 20:36.50 | Lopeppeppy | I was wondering when you'll get to sleep in, Shirik. |
| 20:37.02 | Lopeppeppy | Jon is so weird. |
| 20:37.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Garfield Minus garfield isn't really about being funny, or showing that the cat isn't necessary to BE funny. |
| 20:37.08 | Shirik | I'll be doing work over spring break anyway |
| 20:37.17 | Lopeppeppy | But maybe not the same way. |
| 20:37.40 | Shirik | :( |
| 20:38.56 | Aquavette | spring break.... you silly kids |
| 20:38.58 | Lunessa | Garfield was funny when I was 11. |
| 20:39.04 | Lunessa | Not so much anymore. |
| 20:39.20 | Lopeppeppy | Fart jokes were funny When We Were 11. |
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| 20:39.30 | NightHawkTheSane | fart jokes are still funny.. |
| 20:39.32 | Aquavette | your mom jokes were funny in like 7th grade |
| 20:39.37 | Aquavette | yet people still tell them |
| 20:39.39 | NightHawkTheSane | your MOM is still funny. |
| 20:39.44 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 20:39.45 | End | I hate you NightHawkTheSane |
| 20:39.52 | NightHawkTheSane | <3 End |
| 20:39.53 | End | I was gonna say that! |
| 20:39.58 | End | :( |
| 20:40.25 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/78803526 |
| 20:41.17 | Teomyr | Adys, l2follow conversations |
| 20:41.26 | Adys | whatever |
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| 20:43.16 | Lunessa | fart jokes never stop being funny. |
| 20:43.31 | Lopeppeppy | If you say so, dear... *dubious* |
| 20:44.25 | Lunessa | dick and fart jokes were good enough for Carlin. |
| 20:45.09 | alestane | They don't generally get any funnier, either, though. |
| 20:45.14 | Lopeppeppy | Poor bastard, may he rest in peace. |
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| 20:55.01 | Lopeppeppy | I really wish the blue feed from MMO Champion was split into US/EU.... |
| 20:55.55 | nevcairiel | You cannot ignore the EU! |
| 20:57.31 | zenzelezz | peppy doesn't love us anymore |
| 20:58.06 | Lopeppeppy | I just like to know what I'm reading first... changes don't always happen at the same time and the same pace. |
| 20:58.53 | nevcairiel | EU and US are usually always at the same level |
| 20:58.54 | NightHawkTheSane | its surprisingly easy to ignore EU, when about 80% of their blue posts are either regurgitations of US posts, or irrelevant to US players :P |
| 20:58.56 | zenzelezz | we're what, a day behind you? We're not WoW-China! |
| 20:59.23 | zenzelezz | NightHawkTheSane: we just think of it as a filtered version of the cesspool that is the US forums |
| 20:59.27 | nevcairiel | hotfixes hit us at the same time, maybe just a few hours behind due to moving restarts to off-hours |
| 20:59.27 | Lopeppeppy | Besides, I'm stalking Ghostcrawler. |
| 20:59.40 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: it probably is, but you have your own cesspools i'm sure ;) |
| 20:59.41 | nevcairiel | and patches are about 16 hours behind |
| 21:01.32 | zenzelezz | NightHawkTheSane: yes, but they're European cesspools! |
| 21:02.03 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. that makes them so much more chic |
| 21:02.21 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: He's got that blad sexah thing going on. |
| 21:02.51 | foxlit | Meh, I'm feeling indecisive :/ |
| 21:03.04 | zenzelezz | foxlit: are you sure? |
| 21:03.10 | foxlit | No, not really. |
| 21:03.14 | foxlit | I could release an update, or I could sit on it for a few more weeks. |
| 21:05.34 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> any hunters around? Should I spec my gorilla into dps talents, or survival talents for leveling? |
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| 21:17.57 | Shirik | omfg |
| 21:18.00 | Shirik | I'm watching this TV show |
| 21:18.03 | Shirik | and they're on a subway |
| 21:18.09 | Shirik | And I see in the background the subway map |
| 21:18.17 | Shirik | And it's the same map as on the stations at the DC metro |
| 21:18.21 | Shirik | same stops, everything |
| 21:18.28 | Shirik | I'm impressed with their accuracy :) |
| 21:18.32 | Lunessa | Shirik: Hah. What show? |
| 21:18.53 | Shirik | Um.... I refuse to answer that question on the ground that I'll probably be thrown out of the channel |
| 21:18.57 | Shirik | >< |
| 21:19.34 | haste | it be porn! |
| 21:19.46 | cbreak | this channel censors porn? |
| 21:19.57 | End | Seerah|Away: Halp, I can't throw Shirik out alone! |
| 21:20.33 | nevcairiel | Shirik: did it occur to you that they might've just filmed in a DC metro? |
| 21:20.40 | Shirik | maybe >.> |
| 21:20.57 | Shirik | seems like more work than it should be though |
| 21:21.16 | Lopeppeppy | it's Charmed!!! |
| 21:21.31 | Shirik | wtf is charmed |
| 21:21.38 | End | don't play dumb |
| 21:21.41 | haste | you haven't seen charmed?! |
| 21:21.46 | Lopeppeppy | .... nevermind. But if it were Charmed, I 'd throw you out of the channel myself. |
| 21:21.56 | Lopeppeppy | Nevermind that I don't know how and can't... |
| 21:23.05 | Shirik | psh |
| 21:23.11 | Shirik | I beat you in SC2, I'm obviously more violent than you |
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| 21:23.47 | Lopeppeppy | I nearly ate your face! |
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| 21:24.24 | Shirik | psh |
| 21:24.38 | Cairenn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctkr35D6flc&eurl=http://bonehead.lerman.biz/AutoDestructSequence.html |
| 21:24.44 | Lopeppeppy | Psh ha. Someday, boyo, I will kick... your... arse..... |
| 21:27.29 | Lunessa | Charmed is brain fluff and should really be done as porn anyway. |
| 21:29.35 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm.. charmed porn.. |
| 21:30.01 | nevcairiel | there is another reason people watch charmed? |
| 21:30.10 | Lopeppeppy | There's a rule about there's porn for everything you can imagine.... |
| 21:30.23 | Lopeppeppy | And on that note, I'm seriously leaving, taking my cold home where it belongs! |
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| 21:31.15 | Thunder_Child | my AV system scan has been going for 9 hours and it's still not dine |
| 21:31.53 | Thunder_Child | done* |
| 21:32.16 | foxlit | You're clearly infested with something. |
| 21:33.11 | Thunder_Child | or it could be the retarded ammount of files |
| 21:33.27 | End | do orphans take a non-combat pet slot? |
| 21:33.40 | foxlit | I wonder if you can stall an AV scan indefinitely by creating more and more temporary junk files |
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| 21:38.19 | Thunder_Child | you would run out of space at some point |
| 21:38.43 | foxlit | Delete them afterwards? |
| 21:39.14 | Thunder_Child | i dont think AV programs go back and scan secters they have already passed |
| 21:39.14 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/opie/release/charlie1 << fear the naming scheme of doom. |
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| 21:41.04 | Lunessa | foxlit: Will one of them be Tango and another Foxtrot? |
| 21:41.27 | Shirik | whiskey tango foxtrot? |
| 21:41.58 | foxlit | Perhaps. |
| 21:42.08 | foxlit | Though if we ever get that far, some of them might be for World of Starcraft |
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| 21:48.26 | Fisker- | Tem |
| 21:48.27 | Fisker- | fu |
| 21:48.28 | Fisker- | Tekkub |
| 21:48.46 | Tekkub | no |
| 21:48.52 | Fisker- | ok |
| 21:54.10 | Thunder_Child | why exactly are spiders skinable? |
| 21:54.44 | Fisker- | your mom is skinnable |
| 21:55.08 | p3lim | Can the mage spell 'Blizzard' crit? |
| 21:56.02 | Cide- | hmm |
| 21:56.07 | Cide- | so my friend just got a new laptop |
| 21:56.34 | Cide- | but it freezes up every ~30s while playing games.. video and audio both freeze (sound keeps repeating) |
| 21:56.41 | Cide- | makes it pretty much unplayable.. any ideas what might be causing it? |
| 21:56.48 | Thunder_Child | a problem |
| 21:56.56 | Torhal | Acute alcohol poisoning? |
| 21:57.12 | sacrasc | Windows |
| 21:57.13 | Cide- | carry on if you're stupid or clueless |
| 21:57.21 | Thunder_Child | Cide-, wouldnt it still be under the warrenty? |
| 21:57.23 | Cide- | that applies to all three of you |
| 21:57.25 | Torhal | It could be a driver or hardware issue. |
| 21:57.30 | Cide- | you don't say? |
| 21:58.02 | Cide- | it's like saying "the polar icecaps are melting" "oh, it's a temperature issue" |
| 21:58.06 | Torhal | Hey, you asked. I answered. Sorry the first one was nonsensical, but without further information that's all I have. |
| 21:59.07 | Adys | >>> chr(0) |
| 21:59.12 | Adys | cide :( |
| 21:59.21 | End | >>> chr(96) |
| 21:59.25 | Cide- | I changed to another version of xchat and it doesn't like the bot |
| 21:59.28 | Cide- | can't load it |
| 21:59.30 | cbreak | melting can be caused by pressure or chemical issues too. |
| 21:59.36 | Adys | ill try with mine |
| 21:59.37 | Adys | later on tho |
| 21:59.38 | Adys | work |
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| 22:03.14 | Cide- | 1sec |
| 22:03.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Cide (n=EAndre@hus110a.bobbnet.com) |
| 22:03.26 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 22:03.33 | Cide | >>> "hi" |
| 22:03.35 | Cide | Cide: 'hi' |
| 22:03.37 | Cide | yay. |
| 22:04.00 | Cide | >>> chr(0) |
| 22:04.01 | Cide | Cide: '\x00' |
| 22:04.09 | Cide | Adys: ^ |
| 22:04.27 | Adys | ah there |
| 22:04.47 | Adys | Cide: Im working on something AWESOME |
| 22:04.55 | Cide | should I be scared? |
| 22:04.58 | Adys | oh yes |
| 22:05.06 | selckin | awesome is tiling wm. |
| 22:05.16 | Adys | a reimplementation of the spell.dbc macro language |
| 22:05.20 | Adys | in python |
| 22:05.24 | Adys | full of sex, too |
| 22:08.04 | Arrowmaster | spell.dbc macro language? |
| 22:10.20 | Adys | yes |
| 22:10.45 | Adys | point is being able to reimplement/reuse it in a site |
| 22:10.48 | Adys | like a profile site |
| 22:10.53 | Adys | or even an addon |
| 22:11.25 | Adys | Fills the Paladin with holy spirit for $21084d, granting each melee attack an additional ${$cond($eq($HND,1),0.85*($m1*1.2*1.03*$MWS/100)+0.03*($MW+$mw)/2-1,1.2*($m1*1.2*1.03*$MWS/100)+0.03*($MW+$mw)/2+1)} Holy damage. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time.\r\n\r\nUnleashing this Seal's energy will cause $20187s1 Holy damage to an enemy. |
| 22:11.45 | Adys | you load a row and a paperdoll on that |
| 22:11.50 | Adys | and it gives you hot sweaty sex |
| 22:12.00 | Adys | or maybe just a formatted string |
| 22:12.28 | selckin | you have a dbc parser in python? me want |
| 22:12.42 | Adys | i released it |
| 22:13.01 | Adys | I need to update it, but i want to finish this so I can bundle it |
| 22:13.06 | Adys | selckin: http://addsanddishes.blogspot.com/2009/02/python-wdbdbc-parser-and-writer.html |
| 22:13.39 | Kaso | Anyone own a jailbroken ipod touch first generation? |
| 22:13.51 | selckin | Adys: Thanks |
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| 22:14.21 | Kaso | lol |
| 22:15.15 | Kaso | Ive misplaced mine somewhere in the house, but i have a cunning plan to catch it in the 22 seconds every 15min where it connects to wifi to check my mail, ssh in, upload a xml file that defines an alarm to go off so i can find it |
| 22:15.19 | Adys | selckin: by the way Ill release a new version by the end of the night |
| 22:15.22 | Kaso | but i dont know the correct alarm format |
| 22:16.55 | Lunessa | Kaso: http://xkcd.com/530/ |
| 22:17.00 | Adys | yeah |
| 22:17.02 | Adys | without clicking |
| 22:17.04 | Adys | yeah |
| 22:17.12 | Adys | I can just agree |
| 22:17.20 | Kaso | lol i too knew what the comic was before i clicked |
| 22:17.36 | Kaso | i already tried the simple option of looking for it |
| 22:20.29 | selckin | it's where you haven't looked |
| 22:22.18 | Cide | haha |
| 22:22.29 | Cide | I knew it was that topic beforel ooking too |
| 22:22.58 | Adys | there is no better fitting comic |
| 22:23.28 | Cide | Shiibot: hi |
| 22:23.29 | Cide | Shirik: hi |
| 22:23.39 | Shirik | Cide: hi |
| 22:23.41 | Addybot | Hi Cide |
| 22:23.41 | Shirik | Cide: hi |
| 22:23.43 | Cide | -python ÄhiÄ |
| 22:23.49 | Cide | >>> "hi" |
| 22:23.49 | Cide | Cide: 'hi' |
| 22:23.57 | Cide | hi Addybot |
| 22:24.06 | Cide | Shirik: I got it working~~ |
| 22:24.12 | Shirik | orly |
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| 22:25.04 | End | >>> chr(0) |
| 22:25.04 | Cide | End: '\x00' |
| 22:25.20 | End | that's not helpful, why did whatshisface want that? |
| 22:25.29 | Adys | its your face |
| 22:25.33 | End | oh |
| 22:25.35 | End | my face? |
| 22:25.39 | End | I thought it was your face |
| 22:25.39 | Adys | your face |
| 22:26.01 | End | I guess it'd help if I raid scrollback |
| 22:26.03 | End | read* |
| 22:26.06 | End | wow I'm terrible |
| 22:26.40 | Shirik | >>> class Foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\0\rGoodbye"""\nraise Foo() |
| 22:26.47 | Shirik | >>> class Foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\0\rQUIT: Goodbye"""\nraise Foo() |
| 22:26.53 | Shirik | >>> class Foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\0QUIT: Goodbye"""\nraise Foo() |
| 22:26.57 | Shirik | wtf happened to Cide :( |
| 22:27.07 | Cide | hm |
| 22:27.09 | mikma | >>> "fail" |
| 22:27.09 | Cide | mikma: 'fail' |
| 22:27.17 | Cide | unhandled exception again? |
| 22:27.17 | Shirik | >>> class Foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\rQUIT: Goodbye"""\nraise Foo() |
| 22:27.17 | Cide | Shirik: |
| 22:27.19 | Cide | can you stop? |
| 22:27.21 | Cide | fucker |
| 22:27.24 | Shirik | lol sorry |
| 22:27.25 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 22:27.35 | Thunder_Child | moar moar |
| 22:27.37 | Shirik | I know I'm so close though :< |
| 22:27.58 | Cide | I meant "can you stop?" as in "can you stop getting around my code?!" |
| 22:28.03 | Shirik | lmao |
| 22:28.24 | Shirik | I was actually hoping to figure out how to send EOF |
| 22:28.25 | mikma | cide: :D |
| 22:28.25 | Cide | ps |
| 22:28.38 | Cide | why can you not open a file in administrator mode |
| 22:28.43 | Shirik | ? |
| 22:28.48 | Shirik | You mean access denied? |
| 22:28.48 | Cide | without launching a program in administrator mode and then opening the file |
| 22:28.57 | Cide | you should be able to do it from explorer |
| 22:29.03 | Shirik | you can? |
| 22:29.05 | Shirik | What are you talking about |
| 22:29.06 | Cide | how? |
| 22:29.11 | Shirik | oh I see what you mean |
| 22:29.35 | Shirik | yeah dunno how to do that |
| 22:29.41 | Shirik | ctrl+shift+double click should work but it doesn't |
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| 22:30.51 | Cide | >>> class Foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\rQUIT: Goodbye"""\nraise Foo() |
| 22:30.51 | Cide | Cide: |
| 22:31.05 | Cide | >>> class Foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\0QUIT: Goodbye"""\nraise Foo() |
| 22:31.05 | Cide | Cide: IndentationError('unexpected indent', ('<string>', 1, 1, ' class Foo():\n')) |
| 22:31.09 | Cide | >>> class Foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\0QUIT: Goodbye"""\nraise Foo() |
| 22:31.14 | Cide | the hell? |
| 22:32.53 | Cide | >>> map(ord, ['(', ')', '\r', '\n']) |
| 22:32.53 | Cide | Cide: SyntaxError('EOL while scanning single-quoted string', ('<string>', 1, 27, "map(ord, ['(', ')', '\\r', '\n")) |
| 22:33.13 | Adys | >>> "test" |
| 22:33.14 | Cide | Adys: 'test' |
| 22:33.16 | Cide | >>> map(ord, ['(', ')', '\r']) |
| 22:33.16 | Cide | Cide: [40, 41, 13] |
| 22:33.24 | Adys | >>> foo = lambda i: foo(1); foo(1) |
| 22:33.24 | Cide | Adys: RuntimeError('maximum recursion depth exceeded',) |
| 22:33.29 | Adys | jerk |
| 22:34.19 | Adys | >>> foo = lambda i: foo(1); eval("foo(1)"*100) |
| 22:34.19 | Cide | Adys: SyntaxError('invalid syntax', ('<string>', 1, 9, 'foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)foo(1)... Message too long |
| 22:34.30 | Adys | screw it |
| 22:35.12 | Cide | >>> class |
| 22:35.12 | Cide | Cide: SyntaxError('unexpected EOF while parsing', ('<string>', 1, 5, 'class')) |
| 22:35.26 | Adys | >>> foo = lambda i: foo(i**10); foo(2) |
| 22:36.02 | cbreak | I am sure there are methods to run this locally. :) |
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| 22:36.10 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 22:36.17 | Cide | way to crash me |
| 22:36.22 | Shirik | gj Adys |
| 22:36.36 | Cide | >>> class Foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\0QUIT: Goodbye"""\nraise Foo() |
| 22:36.39 | Shirik | except adys is being mean and using infinite loops |
| 22:36.42 | Cide | yep |
| 22:36.45 | Adys | that was not infinite |
| 22:36.48 | Shirik | I'm using real stuff |
| 22:37.02 | Shirik | yes it was Adys |
| 22:37.03 | Adys | python terminates it after a few hundred runs |
| 22:37.06 | Shirik | ... |
| 22:37.09 | Shirik | ok |
| 22:37.11 | Adys | [00:33:30] <+Cide> Adys: RuntimeError('maximum recursion depth exceeded',) |
| 22:37.26 | Shirik | that's still infinite recursion if it wasn't for you killing the stack |
| 22:37.55 | Adys | i totally dont need an infinite recursion for that |
| 22:38.06 | Adys | after 20 runs or so youll be using all your ram anyway |
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| 22:39.11 | bleeter | seriously, what were the designers on when they put this in? http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=55777 and where the hell can I get some of what they were on?? |
| 22:39.11 | Adys | thats odd |
| 22:39.24 | bleeter | melee tailor wtf??? |
| 22:39.50 | selckin | i know one |
| 22:39.57 | Shirik | Is there a reason not to put it in? |
| 22:40.02 | Adys | im running that script since a few minutes but its not hogging anything |
| 22:40.02 | Shirik | What if someone were a tailor |
| 22:40.19 | Cide | >>> class Foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\0QUIT: Goodbye"""\nraise Foo() |
| 22:40.23 | Cide | the hell |
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| 22:40.44 | Cide | I don't see why it still errors |
| 22:40.56 | Cide | >>> chr(0) |
| 22:40.57 | Cide | Cide: '\x00' |
| 22:40.59 | alestane | So: This particular problem has been giving my class fits, and the book isn't very clear in laying out the answer: if I add a printer to one machine under Linux as a local printer, using the JetDirect protocol, and I go to add that print queue to another machine as a remote printer, what protocol do I use for that remote printer: ipp or socket? |
| 22:41.21 | Tem|work | who cares? |
| 22:41.49 | cbreak | make a fifo and bind a netcat instance to it listening on a port... :) |
| 22:42.27 | Adys | >>> ^C |
| 22:42.28 | Cide | Adys: SyntaxError('invalid syntax', ('<string>', 1, 1, '^C')) |
| 22:42.30 | Adys | aw. |
| 22:42.32 | alestane | My class does, and consequently, I do. I suppose it's possible that none of you do, since this isn't actually a Linux room, but I find there's usually someone here who knows what I'm talking about, and they know me. |
| 22:42.48 | Adys | the fuck |
| 22:42.51 | Adys | >>> ^C |
| 22:42.52 | Adys | close failed: [Errno 0] Success |
| 22:42.52 | Cide | Adys: SyntaxError('invalid syntax', ('<string>', 1, 1, '^C')) |
| 22:45.35 | Cide | there, Shirik |
| 22:45.37 | Cide | >>> class Foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\0QUIT: Goodbye"""\nraise Foo() |
| 22:45.37 | Cide | Cide: \0QUIT: Goodbye |
| 22:46.03 | Cide | a fucking compatibility file were apparently loaded before the regular file |
| 22:46.24 | Cide | so my changes didn't go in |
| 22:48.23 | Gngsk | is it possible to get a text alert on screen when you hook a fish? |
| 22:48.23 | Adys | no |
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| 22:48.37 | Syzgyn | I had forgotten how much I hate fucking with tooltips |
| 22:48.49 | Adys | Syzgyn: what do you need done? |
| 22:49.12 | Syzgyn | just setting a hidden tooltip to an item and getting some text |
| 22:49.24 | Syzgyn | it's always a pain in the ass getting it working right |
| 22:49.29 | bleeter | it's possible, though, to pop a text alert on screen for the three points in the cast time during which it's possible you might hook a fish |
| 22:49.35 | Adys | Syzgyn: want my lib? |
| 22:49.40 | Adys | its not even a lib |
| 22:49.42 | Adys | its two functions |
| 22:49.45 | bleeter | from memory, 18secs, 12secs and 3secs from end of channel |
| 22:49.47 | Syzgyn | sure |
| 22:49.47 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: if you configure the printer with cups, you can easily share that printer over IPP. http://host:631/printers/PrinterNameHere |
| 22:49.56 | bleeter | but don't quote me on those figures |
| 22:50.42 | alestane | ScytheBlade1: Do I need to specify the port? And should the protocol always be ipp for remote printing, regardless of the protocol used between the queue and the printer locally? |
| 22:50.52 | Gngsk | bleeter, thanks but that's not really my desire |
| 22:51.01 | selckin | Gngsk: raise the volume on the sound it plays (addons for that) |
| 22:51.03 | bleeter | Gngsk: yeah, I understand.. but it's the 'best' you can have |
| 22:51.09 | alestane | And does it make a difference whether you specify ipp or http? |
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| 22:51.43 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: in some cases. If you use http://, you need the port. If you do ipp://, you don't. The cups server will act as a print server, queue, the works. You'll need to install the driver for it on the clients too |
| 22:52.00 | Adys | Syzgyn: http://pastebin.com/d7555cc00 |
| 22:52.10 | ScytheBlade1 | And no, but it can be useful to switch between the two during debugging. I have a printer that I can't add with ipp://, but I can with http://host:631 |
| 22:52.41 | ScytheBlade1 | (IPP (and HTTP) is supported natively on win2k and up) |
| 22:52.49 | Adys | Syzgyn: you can do GetTooltipLine("item:123", 5, "Right") |
| 22:52.55 | Adys | (defaults to left) |
| 22:53.00 | Syzgyn | great |
| 22:53.03 | Syzgyn | thanks |
| 22:53.16 | Adys | or GetTooltipLines("item:123", 1, 10, 14) to get lines 1, 10 and 14 for example |
| 22:53.25 | Adys | that only supports left tho |
| 22:53.29 | alestane | Okay, so given that I'm using a preinstalled driver, and generally use ipp://X.Y.Z.N/printers/PrinterName, how come it NEVER FRIGGIN' WORKS? All the same OS, same distro, same network. Nothing ever shows up in the destination queue. |
| 22:53.37 | bleeter | given ScytheBlade1's supplied example URL, I should point out that I've seen systems that require URLs such as http://host:631/printers/PrinterNameHere/../PrinterNameHere/ |
| 22:54.04 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 22:54.07 | bleeter | ie, linux network printing is ass because printer manufacturers build for Win32 and fuck all else.. or some such stupidity I remember the HP guy saying |
| 22:54.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Try http://host:port/ |
| 22:55.09 | bleeter | if it works.. great.. if it doesn't.. it's much like WoW+Wine... complete pain in the arse |
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| 22:56.43 | ScytheBlade1 | If things still don't work out, wireshark + cups logs are things of magic |
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| 23:01.45 | Thunder_Child | i think shadow form should offer shadow resistance as well |
| 23:02.48 | Cide | but you can't resist yourself! |
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| 23:03.40 | Adys | you certainly cant resist me |
| 23:03.43 | Adys | right Cide |
| 23:05.39 | Thunder_Child | >>>152398/20000 |
| 23:05.39 | Cide | Thunder_Child: 7 |
| 23:06.39 | Thunder_Child | rounding? fail |
| 23:07.03 | foxlit | >>>152398.0/20000 |
| 23:07.03 | Cide | foxlit: 7.6199000000000003 |
| 23:07.14 | foxlit | python, fail. |
| 23:07.43 | Adys | 152398//20000 |
| 23:07.47 | Adys | >>> 152398//20000 |
| 23:07.48 | Cide | Adys: 7 |
| 23:07.59 | Adys | >>> 10/3 |
| 23:07.59 | Cide | Adys: 3 |
| 23:08.02 | Adys | >>> 10//3 |
| 23:08.02 | Cide | Adys: 3 |
| 23:08.13 | Adys | dont remember what operator it was |
| 23:08.17 | Adys | anyway, its fixed in py3k |
| 23:11.08 | Cide | / is integer division |
| 23:11.10 | Cide | // |
| 23:11.29 | Cide | / is being changed to float division but right now it's also integer division |
| 23:11.32 | Cide | (right now being 2.5 :P) |
| 23:11.34 | Adys | iirc in py3, / returns float and // int |
| 23:11.38 | Cide | yep |
| 23:11.42 | kd3 | raaah |
| 23:11.49 | kd3 | winter sucks |
| 23:11.53 | Adys | doesnt |
| 23:12.10 | Cide | >>> from decimal import Decimal\nprint Decimal(152398)/Decimal(20000) |
| 23:12.10 | Cide | Cide: '7.6199' |
| 23:12.15 | Cide | python, win. |
| 23:12.20 | Adys | \o/ |
| 23:13.07 | Adys | >>> assert False |
| 23:13.07 | Cide | Adys: AssertionError() |
| 23:13.20 | Adys | >>> from decimal import Decimal as assert |
| 23:13.20 | Cide | Adys: SyntaxError('unexpected EOF while parsing', ('<string>', 1, 37, 'from decimal import Decimal as assert')) |
| 23:13.31 | Adys | >>> from decimal import Decimal as d |
| 23:13.32 | Cide | Adys: None |
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| 23:27.49 | kd3 | yay! fark: "PepsiCo to manufacture "throwback" Pepsi and Mountain Dew sodas made with real sugar instead of high-fructose corn syrup, beginning in mid-April [Cool]" |
| 23:28.15 | alestane | ScytheBlade1: Finally got it, had to turn on sharing for the server, restart the server, and refresh the client machine. |
| 23:28.43 | Adys | Syzgyn: did what i give you do the trick? |
| 23:28.52 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: good to hear |
| 23:30.07 | Tuller | kd3: kosher pepsi year round? |
| 23:30.17 | kd3 | dunno |
| 23:30.22 | kd3 | I'm just glad to see real sugar again |
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| 23:33.47 | Lunessa | kd3: I long for kosher pepsi |
| 23:34.16 | Adys | Fills the Paladin with holy spirit for 0, granting each melee attack an additional 1,0.85*(0*1.2*1.03*0/100)+0.03*(0+0)/2-1,1.2*(0*1.2*1.03*0/100)+0.03*(0+0)/2+1) Holy damage. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time. |
| 23:34.19 | Adys | Im almost there ! |
| 23:35.13 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, it's not unkosher |
| 23:35.34 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: Bah, fuck it. I just want pepsi with goddamned sugar, ok? |
| 23:35.51 | Adys | http://pastebin.com/d356096ec |
| 23:35.52 | Adys | :D |
| 23:37.37 | Cide | you really should collapse the first 6-44 lines to one :P |
| 23:37.43 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, uhhh...yes |
| 23:38.30 | Adys | Cide: lets just say its verbose |
| 23:38.39 | durcyn | high fructose corn syrup is karma for smallpox blankets |
| 23:38.52 | Adys | Cide: I built it using pypy's % format as model |
| 23:39.02 | Adys | so it does more char-by-char parsing than regex |
| 23:42.27 | Cide | 0.03*(0+0) |
| 23:42.28 | Lunessa | durcyn: Easy availability of sugars and fats repay the rape of the american continents in spades, yes. |
| 23:42.33 | Cide | is interesting! |
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| 23:55.59 | bleeter | ./facepalm -> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15210161071&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 23:58.55 | Lunessa | seriously, WTF? |
| 23:59.41 | bleeter | someone's either incredibly stupid... or .. incredibly stupid. |
| 23:59.49 | bleeter | kd3: yar, there's trolling, and then there's... stupid. |
| 23:59.58 | Thunder_Child | or people from 4chan decided to stop by |
