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| 00:04.55 | bleeter | Aquavette: use nose |
| 00:05.15 | Thunder_Child | or a verbal response program |
| 00:05.28 | NightHawkTheSane | hire a typist |
| 00:05.56 | Aquavette | not a big deal |
| 00:06.00 | Aquavette | just not as much fun |
| 00:06.39 | amro | bleeter: Bolvar lives on in our hearts. It's what the event is about... I think |
| 00:08.17 | NightHawkTheSane | bolvar lives on, in my pants! |
| 00:08.32 | cloudwolf | aquavette: fork up about 300 bucks and you can get a cap that you calibrate to your head andyou can type using thoughts. |
| 00:08.59 | cloudwolf | although its slower than typing with one hand lol |
| 00:09.17 | cloudwolf | ~melt thedamnicestone |
| 00:09.18 | purl | ACTION throws ice stones on thedamnicestone |
| 00:09.29 | cloudwolf | ~melt does it work with spaces? |
| 00:09.30 | purl | ACTION throws ice stones on does it work with spaces |
| 00:09.35 | cloudwolf | well it does... |
| 00:10.52 | Dewin | Oddly enough, The is registered. |
| 00:11.24 | Aquavette | my normal name is reggedf |
| 00:11.26 | Aquavette | pisses me off |
| 00:12.52 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, having a name like 'reggedf' would annoy me too ;) |
| 00:13.42 | Lunessa | heh |
| 00:14.05 | cloudwolf | lol this server im on has like a swarm of people who just got wow... |
| 00:14.25 | cloudwolf | some one didn't know which classes got combat pet... |
| 00:14.38 | cloudwolf | >.< read the class descriptions people |
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| 00:16.23 | cloudwolf | hmm i wonder what typing /target #name in chat is calling... |
| 00:23.19 | cloudwolf | O.o what the hell |
| 00:23.25 | cloudwolf | my notpad++ just crashed |
| 00:24.12 | cloudwolf | lol that was the first time thats happend |
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| 00:37.31 | WobWork | http://www.wasabineko.com/wasa/melt.jpg |
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| 00:37.53 | Cloudwolf_ | hm |
| 00:38.12 | Cloudwolf_ | cool just got chatzilla working |
| 00:38.38 | Tifi | does anyone know at which point during the loading process GetShapeshiftForm() returns the correct value? |
| 00:38.40 | Cloudwolf | hm |
| 00:40.17 | Cloudwolf | tifi: try using GetShapeshiftForm(true) |
| 00:40.23 | Cloudwolf | wait nvm |
| 00:40.40 | Cloudwolf | actualy yes GetShapeshiftForm(true) |
| 00:41.03 | Cloudwolf | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetShapeshiftForm |
| 00:42.42 | Tifi | mkay |
| 00:44.21 | Tifi | thing is, GetShapeshiftForm(true) returns nil when I call it just after PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 00:45.05 | Tifi | even though it's supposed to return 1 |
| 00:46.00 | Tifi | PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD doesn't work either |
| 00:46.10 | Cloudwolf | %r |
| 00:46.16 | Cloudwolf | hmm nvm lol |
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| 00:47.40 | kd3 | whee, I am now "Kaydeethree the Love Fool" |
| 00:47.48 | Tifi | so i'm currently using UNIT_AURA('player'), but it feels like a hack |
| 00:49.57 | Cloudwolf | what class areyou trying to get this to work with? |
| 00:50.02 | [dRaCo] | VARIABLES_LOADED should work, since keybindings are loaded after the rest |
| 00:50.14 | [dRaCo] | dunno if that'd be considered bad style, though |
| 00:51.23 | Cloudwolf | tifi what class are you trying to get this to work for? |
| 00:51.45 | Tifi | spriest |
| 00:51.47 | Tifi | druid |
| 00:52.18 | Cloudwolf | true works with druids only |
| 00:52.21 | Cloudwolf | false works with other classes |
| 00:52.34 | Cloudwolf | except it doesn't have any api for shadow preists? |
| 00:53.17 | Tifi | do you honestly believe wowwiki is always up to date? :) |
| 00:53.20 | Tekkub | what are you trying to do Tifi? |
| 00:53.43 | Tekkub | the UI code is always up to date, look at what it does :P |
| 00:53.47 | Tifi | initialize frames when the addon is loaded depending on stance |
| 00:54.05 | Cloudwolf | tifi no i don't but i would expect that a preists returns would be set up by now on it heh |
| 00:54.13 | Thunder_Child | huh...i can cast dispersion while flying for no apperant reason |
| 00:54.34 | Tekkub | UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_USABLE UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_COOLDOWN UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM |
| 00:54.54 | Tekkub | (at least) one of those is going to fire on login if your'e in a form |
| 00:55.56 | Tekkub | game's also watching PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 00:55.57 | Tifi | ok Tekkub, i'll try them, thanks |
| 00:56.04 | Tekkub | my bets are on FORMS |
| 00:56.14 | Tifi | yea |
| 00:57.43 | Cloudwolf | is today or tomorrow the real valentines day? |
| 00:58.12 | [dRaCo] | 14th |
| 00:58.12 | NightHawkTheSane | the 14th |
| 00:58.21 | Cloudwolf | thank you |
| 00:58.46 | Tekkub | it's always the 14th :P |
| 00:59.07 | Thunder_Child | so neither |
| 01:00.29 | Cloudwolf | lol i never pay attention to valentines |
| 01:00.41 | Cloudwolf | its a day that i care very little for nor do i get anything for it |
| 01:00.54 | Tekkub | then you fail |
| 01:01.14 | Cloudwolf | i kinda knew that... |
| 01:01.15 | Tekkub | any holiday that has oversized reeses candy is worth knowing about |
| 01:01.30 | Tekkub | fuck, he better not have eaten both those hearts we bought |
| 01:01.36 | Tekkub | I'll kick his ass |
| 01:01.41 | Cloudwolf | meh reeses are ok but i do get my moms fudge which is like the godliest fudge in the world |
| 01:02.20 | Tekkub | meh, I'm very picky about fudge |
| 01:02.26 | Tekkub | and he didn't eat it, huzzah! |
| 01:02.29 | Cloudwolf | XD |
| 01:02.52 | Tekkub | my mother puts marsmallow creme in her fudge, it's fucking nasty |
| 01:03.04 | Cloudwolf | eww eww eww... |
| 01:03.07 | Cloudwolf | that sounds horrible |
| 01:03.13 | Cloudwolf | this is chocolate and maybe some nuts in it |
| 01:03.14 | Tekkub | it is |
| 01:03.25 | Cloudwolf | no fillers no crap |
| 01:03.37 | Tekkub | yea, it should be almost fall-apart dry and full of walnuts |
| 01:03.56 | Cloudwolf | gota disagree on fall apart dry i like smoothness to mine |
| 01:04.13 | Tekkub | nah, it's that "melts in your mouth" kinda think |
| 01:04.41 | Tekkub | ti shouldn't be gooey until AFTER it's in your mout |
| 01:05.05 | Cloudwolf | outside dry inside smooth :D |
| 01:05.40 | Lunessa | Damn you two, now I want chocolate and brownies. fuckers. |
| 01:06.18 | Cloudwolf | hehe |
| 01:06.24 | kd3 | lmao |
| 01:06.33 | Cloudwolf | yay for inuendo |
| 01:06.34 | Tekkub | I was waiting for a good moment |
| 01:06.35 | ScytheBlade1 | If Tekkub DIDN'T say that I'd have been dissapointed |
| 01:06.52 | Lunessa | I don't think I'm your type anyway tekkie. |
| 01:07.04 | Tekkub | :P |
| 01:07.14 | Cloudwolf | lol and if you look closely at the word innuendo it says inn u end o |
| 01:08.04 | Lunessa | later all. |
| 01:08.14 | Dewin | assume > innuendo |
| 01:08.31 | Tifi | Tekkub, working now on the priest with UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS, thanks! |
| 01:09.22 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 01:10.14 | Cloudwolf | ~melt tekkub |
| 01:10.15 | purl | ACTION throws ice stones on tekkub |
| 01:10.31 | Cloudwolf | lua> 10x100x1000 |
| 01:10.31 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: luabot:1: malformed number near '10x100x1000' |
| 01:10.38 | Cloudwolf | ohlol |
| 01:10.46 | Cloudwolf | lua> 10*100*1000 |
| 01:10.47 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: 1000000 |
| 01:10.52 | Cloudwolf | lol silly stars |
| 01:16.52 | WobWork | News just in: The Ice Stone has melted. Al Gore says: "I told you so" |
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| 01:19.33 | Tekkub | GLaDOS "wheeeeeeeee" is the best alert sound evar |
| 01:21.02 | Cloudwolf | link? |
| 01:22.29 | Tekkub | http://www.filedropper.com/weee |
| 01:22.42 | Tekkub | have a wav if you need that |
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| 01:23.39 | Cloudwolf | meh not high pitched enough lol |
| 01:24.28 | Tifi | um what's the point of GetShapeshiftForm(true)? all it does is return 0 for dks and paladins, while GetShapeshiftForm() always returns the correct value |
| 01:26.54 | Cloudwolf | supposed to get 1 = blood 2= frost 3=unholy for dk |
| 01:27.13 | Tifi | you need to use GetShapeshiftForm() for dks |
| 01:27.26 | Tifi | GetShapeshiftForm(true)==0 no matter the stance |
| 01:27.29 | Cloudwolf | Well wow wiki needs to be fixed |
| 01:27.31 | WobWork | why are you passing in true? |
| 01:27.37 | Cloudwolf | tifi |
| 01:27.43 | kd3 | so, fix it |
| 01:27.48 | kd3 | that's the great thing about wikis |
| 01:27.52 | Cloudwolf | GetShapeshiftForm(true) is only for druid |
| 01:27.57 | Tifi | aha! |
| 01:28.07 | Cloudwolf | GetShapeshiftForm(false) =dk palys rogues etc |
| 01:28.17 | WobWork | arg1 |
| 01:28.17 | WobWork | Boolean - False will return values for the Paladin auras and Death Knight Presences, True will return the ohter shapeshift forms. |
| 01:28.30 | WobWork | that's what wowwiki says =P |
| 01:28.45 | Tifi | wobwork, that's not correct for spriests, warriors and rogues |
| 01:28.55 | Tifi | the argument doesn't matter for them |
| 01:29.17 | Tifi | ok so why is it needed for druids? i don't have one |
| 01:29.28 | WobWork | er no arg == false |
| 01:29.48 | WobWork | unless they do some tricky existance checking |
| 01:30.03 | Tifi | i'd like to update wowwiki, i just don't want to make it less accurate ^^ |
| 01:30.15 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:BOLD |
| 01:30.22 | kd3 | if it's wrong, someone else will fix it |
| 01:31.03 | WobWork | http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/605417/fear-2-to-be-advertised-on-cats.html |
| 01:31.05 | WobWork | wtf? |
| 01:32.19 | Tifi | could someone with a druid test the return values of /dump GetShapeshiftForm(), GetShapeshiftForm(true) while in cat form when stealthed/not stealthed? |
| 01:32.32 | Cide | WobWork: that's amazingly great |
| 01:33.56 | Cloudwolf | sucks to be the cats? |
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| 01:39.48 | Cloudwolf | its quiet.... |
| 01:40.08 | Tifi | everyone's thinking of the poor cats |
| 01:40.25 | Cloudwolf | well it does suck to be em |
| 01:41.06 | Tifi | sure does |
| 01:41.26 | Codayus | Hey, some cats don't mind cities and being walked on leads. |
| 01:41.51 | Codayus | ...I'm be impressed if they managed to track down enough black cats who don't mind cities for the stunt though. |
| 01:42.03 | Codayus | Er, I'd, even. |
| 01:43.14 | Tifi | they could fill up the free slots with stuffed cats on wheels |
| 01:43.53 | WobWork | http://www.wimp.com/catman/ |
| 01:49.01 | Tekkub | muaahahahahah |
| 01:49.13 | Tekkub | this reese's hart is so big it collapsed under it's own weight |
| 01:51.10 | ZorbaTHut | fuck yeah replaced moroes's pocketwatch with essence of gossamer :D |
| 02:02.01 | Cloudwolf | ? XD |
| 02:02.09 | WobWork | I lost a friend over that trinket =P |
| 02:02.33 | WobWork | But he was so bipolar, it wasn't worth the effort of keeping the friendship up |
| 02:02.41 | WobWork | (and I got essence of gossamer) |
| 02:02.51 | Cloudwolf | jesus christ 1110 bonus hp? |
| 02:03.01 | WobWork | Crazy wot? |
| 02:03.07 | WobWork | one of the best tanking trinkets out there |
| 02:03.22 | WobWork | and the one with the largest stat bonus |
| 02:03.59 | Cloudwolf | rofl im watching a video i saw in science class (never finished) on science channel |
| 02:04.10 | Cloudwolf | :D its in better quality thent he crappy tape my teacher played lol |
| 02:04.15 | Tifi | 111 Stamina>1110 HP |
| 02:05.05 | Cloudwolf | tifi for some reason your text is allways in the center of my screen... |
| 02:05.30 | Tifi | that's because it's very important |
| 02:05.31 | Cloudwolf | nvm its cus your name is short it lines up the text and not the names |
| 02:05.37 | WobWork | Cloudwolf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmw7JfsNzoY |
| 02:05.42 | Tifi | j/k what do you mean, in you irc client? |
| 02:05.52 | WobWork | best science series ever |
| 02:06.06 | WobWork | LOOK AROUND YOU |
| 02:07.26 | bleeter | amro: bolvar lives on in my colostomy bag :P |
| 02:08.32 | bleeter | odd, no error message when attempting to go through the dark portal @ 52... just won't let me through. I seem to recall it used to say 'Must be 58' |
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| 02:10.14 | WobWork | They probably removed that restriction on wotlk release |
| 02:10.23 | bleeter | nope can't get through |
| 02:10.41 | WobWork | just get portalled =P |
| 02:10.46 | bleeter | think it's even sillier now with the profession restrictions lifted |
| 02:10.59 | bleeter | heh, low pop realm no mages on at the time I started the journey |
| 02:11.05 | WobWork | My level 30 hunter is hearthed in Dalaran =P |
| 02:12.04 | bleeter | yeah, that's the silly thing.. you can get hearthed in Dal and fly all over NR's south coast at any level, portal to Shat... yet can't go through the Dark Portal. |
| 02:13.53 | Cloudwolf | is this loko around you even real? wtf |
| 02:14.14 | Cloudwolf | rofl wtf... |
| 02:14.25 | Cloudwolf | lazer eyes... |
| 02:14.37 | Tifi | i like how it starts with an infinite loop |
| 02:15.43 | Cloudwolf | ok it was a BBC productoin |
| 02:15.45 | Cloudwolf | XD |
| 02:15.47 | Cloudwolf | that explains it |
| 02:18.16 | Cloudwolf | BBC loves making random stuff |
| 02:19.27 | Cloudwolf | lua> 1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9*10+1^4-1^-3 |
| 02:19.27 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: 3628800 |
| 02:19.29 | Cloudwolf | XD |
| 02:19.55 | Cloudwolf | lua>2^4-4^2 |
| 02:19.56 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: 0 |
| 02:20.08 | Cloudwolf | O.o |
| 02:20.19 | Cloudwolf | lua> 3^6-6^3 |
| 02:20.20 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: 513 |
| 02:21.02 | Cloudwolf | ~melt everyone |
| 02:21.02 | purl | ACTION throws ice stones on everyone |
| 02:21.19 | Cloudwolf | ~help |
| 02:23.31 | Cloudwolf | ~ping |
| 02:23.32 | purl | ~pong |
| 02:24.10 | Cloudwolf | afk |
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| 02:27.54 | kd3 | yay, I love winning wintergrasp after I take out the southern towers |
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| 02:30.45 | bleeter | I've got this hate hate relationship with Wintergrasp. It starts with a missing NPC who prolly won't be there until at maybe April (assuming no more patches until 3.1) |
| 02:31.32 | kd3 | that's cause you're whorde. you know blizz favors alliance. >.> |
| 02:32.00 | bleeter | yeah, hence allies exploit the terrain moar |
| 02:32.46 | Cloudwolf | lol terrain exploits? :P |
| 02:32.49 | Tekkub | everyone knows the human male buttplug run animation is OP in WG |
| 02:33.08 | kd3 | from underneath* |
| 02:33.10 | bleeter | Cloudwolf: demolishers can drive straight through the tiny doorways |
| 02:33.30 | Cloudwolf | oh yeah lol |
| 02:33.32 | Cloudwolf | :P |
| 02:33.38 | Tem | for alliance only? |
| 02:33.39 | Tekkub | that's not terrain |
| 02:33.44 | Tekkub | that's a clipping exploit |
| 02:33.58 | Cloudwolf | lol its cus allaince know how to make a compact seige machine |
| 02:33.59 | bleeter | Tekkub: wasn't quite sure how they wired up their buildings ;) |
| 02:34.08 | Cloudwolf | the horde have all these flags and shields and stuff |
| 02:34.35 | Tekkub | I bet tauren females in demolishoners don't fit |
| 02:34.43 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 02:34.43 | bleeter | Tem: dunno... finally got my allies to 80 so switched to my horde toons to start actually playing hehe |
| 02:34.58 | Cloudwolf | i have 1 level 80 |
| 02:35.00 | Cloudwolf | toolazy to raid |
| 02:35.04 | Cloudwolf | too lazy to rep grind |
| 02:35.06 | Cloudwolf | that leaves pvp |
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| 02:35.09 | bleeter | and a large part of that playing was going to be WG.. and.. the NPC is MIA and the demolishers are exploited lots etc. etc. |
| 02:35.11 | Cloudwolf | and even that gets boring... |
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| 02:59.45 | bleeter | or getting from 370-375 enchanting without |
| 03:01.12 | bleeter | what's genuinely amusing is that there's only two recipes these days that needs a runed arcanite rod. 2H Major Spi.. and the Runed Fel Iron Rod lol |
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| 03:03.41 | Cloudwolf | lua> local bob=1 print(bob) |
| 03:03.41 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: 1 |
| 03:03.55 | Cloudwolf | !api 3d |
| 03:03.56 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for '3d'. |
| 03:04.11 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 03:04.12 | Cloudwolf | nope |
| 03:06.49 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: you can do 350+ on northrend mats you know |
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| 03:12.27 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: I do now! thanks ;) |
| 03:12.46 | bleeter | the rod thing's still annoying |
| 03:13.11 | bleeter | a bucket load of mats to create an item whose only purpose is to be another mat. |
| 03:13.22 | bleeter | er s/bucket/not small/ |
| 03:14.29 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, but meh |
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| 03:23.25 | WobWork | you no has a bukkit? |
| 03:23.44 | Kyahx | Anyone have a good suggestion for a lua editor for OSX? I really like TextMate but my free trial is over :/ |
| 03:24.06 | Tifi | gvim :> |
| 03:24.35 | Kyahx | eh...vim is a bit too nitty-gritty for me :P |
| 03:24.46 | WobWork | has anyone ever gone to Antarctica, or known someone who has? |
| 03:24.51 | kd3 | you're a programmer... |
| 03:24.57 | WobWork | Oh key Kyahx |
| 03:25.14 | ZorbaTHut | wob, I read a pretty sweet thread about it on the SA forums |
| 03:25.15 | Kyahx | Psh, Im not a programmer :P |
| 03:25.20 | Kyahx | Hi WobWork :) |
| 03:25.37 | WobWork | ZorbaTHut: one of these days I'll buy a SA membership |
| 03:25.45 | WobWork | and then you'll never ever see me again =\ |
| 03:25.54 | WobWork | ZorbaTHut: Do you have a link? |
| 03:26.25 | Tem | oh wow |
| 03:26.26 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.hulu.com/watch/57489/onion-news-network-fda-approves-depressant-drug-for-the-annoyingly-cheerful |
| 03:26.26 | Tem | awesome |
| 03:26.31 | Tem | I just won t7.5 hat |
| 03:26.33 | ZorbaTHut | http://www.somethingawful.com/d/comedy-goldmine/antarctica-living-working.php |
| 03:26.35 | Tem | and best in slot neck |
| 03:26.44 | Tem | at the end of a naxx that I didn't think I'd win anything |
| 03:26.51 | ZorbaTHut | I don't know if I could dig out a link to the thread itself, but there's something at least |
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| 03:45.49 | WobWork | ZorbaTHut: huh, I managed to get my username as Wobin |
| 03:46.45 | WobWork | pft, 12 character passwords? |
| 03:50.20 | WobWork | I'm too set in my ways to come up with a new password that's 12 characters or more =( |
| 04:00.13 | ZorbaTHut | wobwork, http://passwordsafe.sourceforge.net/ |
| 04:00.31 | ZorbaTHut | apparently when they added that restriction, their account hack rate went through the floor. I don't think they're changing it :) |
| 04:01.52 | WobWork | oh I just smushed together two of my normal passwords =P |
| 04:02.22 | WobWork | damnit |
| 04:02.34 | WobWork | I've held off buying an account for about ... 10 years now |
| 04:03.36 | ZorbaTHut | joiiiiin usssss |
| 04:04.17 | WobWork | I'm a goon =( |
| 04:04.34 | ZorbaTHut | don't worry, the shame fades eventually |
| 04:05.30 | WobWork | And naturally, the point where I join up? |
| 04:05.36 | WobWork | The search functionality is disabled =P |
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| 04:09.29 | NightHawkTheSane | hahaha |
| 04:09.30 | NightHawkTheSane | http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/02/12/diluting_the_brand |
| 04:10.04 | NightHawkTheSane | "designed to mimic the taste of store-bought Starbucks" I'm pretty sure I can make burnt and shitty coffee with any off-the-shelf instant brand |
| 04:10.09 | WobWork | hehe |
| 04:10.22 | WobWork | Can I afford 22k to go on a trip to the arctic? |
| 04:10.28 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 04:10.31 | shadowfaux | yes |
| 04:13.06 | shadowfaux | anyone able to advise me with filtering system messages? |
| 04:13.17 | WobWork | Note, I'm not actually funding this trip |
| 04:13.29 | WobWork | so I'll have to see just how much my parents are willing to foot a bill =P |
| 04:13.45 | shadowfaux | ah ok was confused for a minute there |
| 04:14.11 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/018031.html |
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| 04:18.12 | NightHawkTheSane | what's the minimum fishing you need for dalaran sewers and/or fountains? |
| 04:18.30 | kd3 | 380 min? something in the 430s to stop get aways iirc |
| 04:19.02 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. so i probably shouldn't try until i can get up to like 400+ |
| 04:22.47 | WobWork | not worth it, aye |
| 04:22.56 | WobWork | Go fish for ironjaw |
| 04:23.03 | WobWork | or old crafty |
| 04:23.29 | NightHawkTheSane | I've caught 5 old crafties |
| 04:23.30 | NightHawkTheSane | today. |
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| 04:25.39 | WobWork | hacking the crocolisk? =P |
| 04:25.43 | Gngsk | nerf crock hax |
| 04:25.47 | NightHawkTheSane | not even |
| 04:26.03 | WobWork | Got Ironjaw? |
| 04:26.08 | NightHawkTheSane | nope |
| 04:26.12 | NightHawkTheSane | but i dont feel like fucking around in IF |
| 04:26.32 | NightHawkTheSane | not during the festival at least |
| 04:38.03 | Cloudwolf | kyahx: are you looking for a syntax highlighting text editor? |
| 04:40.51 | batrick | "Glue traps are the absolute worst! Anyone here ever think of what happens? The mouse gets stuck on the trap until it dies from starvation or dehydration. Plan old spring loaded mouse traps work great, and kill it instantly. Although, have a sick story on the glue traps. 20 years ago in HS, working at McDs, |
| 04:40.56 | batrick | I had a cheap manager and a lot of mice. He bought glue traps, and wanted to "reuse" them. By reuse, he thought he could just pull the mouse off the trap. We, he is pulling on that tail, and that mouse is squeaking like hell, and he pulled so hard he pulled the damn spine out of the mouse. The was a quick end to the glue traps and the real exterminators came in the next day." |
| 04:41.56 | bleeter | Cairenn: http://hastheicestonemelted.com/ |
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| 04:42.44 | Cairenn | bleeter: huh? |
| 04:43.29 | ZorbaTHut | bleeter, I love it |
| 04:43.37 | bleeter | Cairenn: if you ain't played much in past 24 hours prolly straight over your head |
| 04:43.42 | bleeter | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/14990463821-re-the-ice-stone-melting.html |
| 04:43.51 | bleeter | random out-of-season emote for ~24 hours yesterday |
| 04:43.55 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: I can't take credit |
| 04:44.19 | Cairenn | okay |
| 04:49.17 | mikma | out of emo! |
| 04:51.27 | Dolby | Hmmm http://i.gizmodo.com/5152787/confirmed-microsoft-opening-retail-stores |
| 04:53.16 | Cloudwolf | Any one here on mac? |
| 04:53.56 | durcyn | i've got one handy, Cloudwolf, whatcha need |
| 04:54.37 | Cloudwolf | Well lol not realy testing for it. Do you have a programing text editor on mac with syntax highlighting? |
| 04:54.39 | Cloudwolf | free btw |
| 04:55.13 | Kyahx | mikma: CHOP! |
| 04:56.55 | Kyahx | Odd, hiding the interface also hides quest-giver's excelmation marks? |
| 04:57.05 | Kyahx | but not player names and such |
| 05:00.12 | durcyn | uh, try macvim.org |
| 05:00.28 | mikma | kyahx: poop? |
| 05:00.36 | Kyahx | you know it |
| 05:01.09 | mikma | and how do you know that? ;D |
| 05:02.30 | Tekkub | okey so, pandora on iPhone is the *only* reason I want one now :) |
| 05:02.55 | Tekkub | any of you apple fanbois got a first gen iPhone you can't get rid of? |
| 05:03.09 | Shirik | blackberry imo |
| 05:03.11 | Shirik | and no |
| 05:03.12 | Cloudwolf | tekkub |
| 05:03.23 | Cloudwolf | tekkub: Google1 phone> iphone |
| 05:03.26 | Cloudwolf | especialy for a coder |
| 05:03.39 | Tekkub | okey, neither of you are listening |
| 05:03.46 | Tekkub | I do not want a phone |
| 05:03.57 | Kyahx | Tekkub: why not an iPod touch then? |
| 05:03.59 | Tekkub | I want Pandora sans-flash |
| 05:04.10 | Cloudwolf | O.o never heard of pandora sans-flash |
| 05:04.28 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: likely its running on flash on the iphone too |
| 05:04.29 | Tekkub | because they're expensive and first gen iPhones... well all the fanbois got 3G's and can't get rid of em :) |
| 05:04.44 | Tekkub | Arrowmaster, yea but that flash isn't killing my computer |
| 05:04.54 | Kyahx | they're nice thou -- especially if you jailbreak it -- an 8GB touch isnt that much |
| 05:04.56 | Kyahx | $230? |
| 05:05.09 | Tekkub | Kyahx, I won't use anything else, just pandora |
| 05:05.24 | Kyahx | You could find other uses im sure |
| 05:05.30 | Kyahx | mobile SSH terminal? |
| 05:05.34 | Kyahx | VNC remote |
| 05:05.34 | Tekkub | I've found no other uses for Trey's |
| 05:05.36 | Kyahx | etc.. |
| 05:05.40 | Tekkub | I don't leave the house |
| 05:05.50 | Kyahx | touché |
| 05:06.23 | Kyahx | *shrug* i have a touch and an 3G both...but I think its fairly well established than im a fanboi sheep :) |
| 05:06.29 | Kyahx | I find use for both of them |
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| 05:07.33 | Tekkub | I've played with his iPhone a lot, it's neat and all that, but the only functional use I have for it is music... |
| 05:07.42 | Tekkub | and the iPodness of it doesn't live up to my standards |
| 05:07.52 | Tekkub | but Pandora is just jizzy |
| 05:08.12 | Kyahx | 8GB refurbished iPod Touch for $180? How much are you willing to spend on a radio |
| 05:08.17 | Tekkub | hence why I don't care to pay out the ass for an iPod touch |
| 05:08.23 | Tekkub | $5 |
| 05:08.25 | Kyahx | lol |
| 05:08.31 | Kyahx | You wont get an old phone for that either :P |
| 05:08.39 | Tekkub | seriously, he got this bitch for free |
| 05:08.45 | Kyahx | ? |
| 05:08.51 | Tekkub | I'm looking for someone who can't get rid of theirs :) |
| 05:09.20 | Cloudwolf | tekkub are you talking about pandora.com? |
| 05:09.27 | Tekkub | on iPhone, yes |
| 05:09.30 | Shirik | http://ingenuitywelcome.com/game/ |
| 05:09.31 | Cloudwolf | the music genome project? |
| 05:09.43 | Tekkub | don't make me repeat myself |
| 05:09.45 | Tekkub | again |
| 05:09.52 | Cloudwolf | ... |
| 05:10.05 | Tekkub | on iPhone, yes |
| 05:10.08 | Tekkub | there you dun it now |
| 05:10.56 | Kyahx | Tekkub, what's your OS of choice -- maybe you could just find a desktop app |
| 05:11.08 | Tekkub | desktop apps are all flash |
| 05:11.17 | Tekkub | just wrappers around the web-based one really |
| 05:11.31 | Tekkub | hence why I've not used pandora in like a year and a half |
| 05:12.02 | Kyahx | eww, adobe air powesr the offical desktop app? |
| 05:12.21 | Kyahx | hate adobe |
| 05:12.21 | Tekkub | yes |
| 05:12.43 | Tekkub | I like PDF... but anymore I don't even like adobe's pdf software |
| 05:13.01 | Kyahx | well, its an open standard -- not really an adobe "product" anymore |
| 05:13.07 | Kyahx | their apps are crap |
| 05:13.18 | Tekkub | seems anymore they just featurecreep the fuck out of their software to the point it's just nasty |
| 05:13.48 | Tekkub | yea I know it's a standard, but "back in the day" adobe's pdf stuff used to rock |
| 05:13.57 | Kyahx | not to mention price-rape becuase they own the market on graphic design apps |
| 05:13.58 | Cloudwolf | cya guys later |
| 05:14.13 | Tekkub | how the hell do you complicate a digital replacement for paper? well they fucking found a way |
| 05:14.25 | Kyahx | heh |
| 05:14.55 | Tekkub | and they've neglected everything in flash except streaming video |
| 05:15.01 | Tekkub | so it's gone to shit too |
| 05:15.24 | Kyahx | Im hoping that CSS3 can take over what flash does for 90% of sites |
| 05:15.31 | Kyahx | not that people will actually embrace it.... |
| 05:15.33 | Tekkub | youtube, like pvp, ruins everything it touches |
| 05:15.47 | Kyahx | well, youTube has H.264 streams now |
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| 05:15.59 | Tekkub | there goes H.264 |
| 05:16.02 | Kyahx | had to to add high-quality and iPod/iPhone support |
| 05:16.05 | Tekkub | nice knowing you! |
| 05:16.16 | Kyahx | :) I cant see how the world will ruin a codec |
| 05:16.35 | Tekkub | well they compicated digital paper |
| 05:16.44 | Tekkub | I bet they can rape a codec too |
| 05:16.45 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: you never liked H.264 in the first place |
| 05:16.59 | Tekkub | Arrowmaster, I never hated H.264 |
| 05:17.07 | Tekkub | I hated Matroska |
| 05:17.15 | Kyahx | mkv? |
| 05:17.18 | Tekkub | even though it has a cute russian bear name |
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| 05:31.48 | kd3 | sweet. first sarth kill, won the bag roll |
| 05:31.59 | Sixen | winrar |
| 05:32.08 | WobWork | I did that =) |
| 05:32.11 | WobWork | was cool |
| 05:32.23 | Sixen | I haven't been here (not idle) in a while.. |
| 05:32.36 | WobWork | Don't worry Sixen |
| 05:32.39 | WobWork | You havne't missed much |
| 05:32.43 | Sixen | =/ |
| 05:39.25 | Shirik | grats kd3 |
| 05:39.57 | Shirik | Tekkub: Complicated digital paper? |
| 05:40.38 | Tekkub | just ranting about what a bloated piece of shit acrobat has become ^^ |
| 05:40.44 | Shirik | oh |
| 05:40.48 | Shirik | I thought we were talking about youtube |
| 05:40.55 | Tekkub | yea that came later |
| 05:41.05 | Tekkub | read the whole damn rant |
| 05:41.07 | Tekkub | :P |
| 05:41.09 | Shirik | :( |
| 05:41.22 | Shirik | what I don't get |
| 05:41.30 | Shirik | is why Adobe Reader performs so much worse than all the other reader alternatives out there |
| 05:41.44 | WobWork | Foxit is a good pdf reader |
| 05:41.52 | Tekkub | creature feep |
| 05:41.52 | Dewin | foxit and sumatra are both nice |
| 05:42.44 | Tekkub | anyone know of the top of their... In K3, the "they took our men" questline that leads into all the big manly woman quests... that's not required to get the "go to frosthold" fedex is it? |
| 05:42.53 | Tekkub | I did big manly blue women first |
| 05:43.57 | WobWork | yes it is |
| 05:44.07 | WobWork | cause you need to do that whole flying drake rodeo |
| 05:44.13 | WobWork | to meet up with whatsisface |
| 05:44.15 | Tekkub | how much of it is, cause it's a long ass chain |
| 05:44.19 | WobWork | to then go to frosthold |
| 05:44.27 | WobWork | All of it, I imagine |
| 05:44.28 | kd3 | the hell? a plane crashed into a house in Buffalo, NY? |
| 05:44.39 | Tekkub | you need Thor to go to frosthold? |
| 05:44.56 | WobWork | yeah, I think so, cause how else do you talk to the king? |
| 05:45.03 | kd3 | tekkub; no. just do whatever quests there are at k3 and you'll get the frosthold fedex |
| 05:45.11 | Tekkub | that's Niffle, not frosthold |
| 05:45.11 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: i just saw. >< |
| 05:45.12 | WobWork | my mistake then =P |
| 05:45.15 | WobWork | oh |
| 05:45.17 | Tekkub | frosthold's the dorfs |
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| 05:45.28 | AbsolutRayne | http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/13/plane.crash.new.york/index.html Happening now |
| 05:45.39 | WobWork | aha, soz |
| 05:46.07 | Tekkub | <3 Dun Nippelem |
| 05:52.32 | Shirik | thanks AbsolutRayne |
| 05:53.38 | Shirik | I wish I had access to ASDI here :( |
| 05:53.46 | Zyndrome | hmm it's friday the 13th D: |
| 05:53.53 | Shirik | it's late enough that the information should be publically available about that flight |
| 05:55.22 | AbsolutRayne | Shirik: Think someone you know is on it?:/ |
| 05:55.29 | Shirik | no |
| 05:55.43 | Shirik | I'm just curious to see if there's any information the media hasn't gotten a hold of yet |
| 05:55.56 | Arrowmaster | lua> os.difftime(1234567890,os.time()) |
| 05:55.56 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 63335 |
| 05:56.15 | Shirik | I don't think the media has direct access to ASDI data, despite the fact that it's declassified after 5 minutes, because it's not really distributed |
| 05:56.21 | Shirik | But my school does since we're an aeronautical university |
| 05:56.55 | kd3 | oh fail, someone pulled grob from the room before |
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| 06:01.36 | Zyndrome | http://www.shatteredminds.net/skit/forums-wip.jpg |
| 06:01.39 | Zyndrome | so far so good |
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| 06:06.14 | mikma | "lizzard provides the .." |
| 06:06.52 | Zyndrome | it's cause they use a big fancy image for the B |
| 06:11.17 | Kyahx | what is the smallest resolution tga wow can load? |
| 06:11.23 | Kyahx | 4x4? |
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| 06:21.39 | shadowfaux | could someone look over my code and see if they can spot the error i can't? i think its something simple but not sure |
| 06:25.03 | Torhal | shadowfaux: Pastey? |
| 06:25.56 | shadowfaux | http://shadowfaux.pastey.net/108226-zf6o |
| 06:26.17 | shadowfaux | as said i think its something simple |
| 06:27.19 | Torhal | Line 27: No "then" at end. |
| 06:28.09 | shadowfaux | ah that the only thing you can see? |
| 06:29.16 | Torhal | destName shouldn't be in quotes...nor should srcName |
| 06:29.38 | Torhal | By doing that, you're literally sending "destName" instead of what destName represents. |
| 06:29.41 | shadowfaux | ah ok ty |
| 06:30.13 | Shirik | Kyahx: We had this discussion earlier today and found no reason it wouldn't be 1x1 |
| 06:30.22 | Kyahx | when I do 1x1 the game crashes |
| 06:30.26 | Shirik | uh |
| 06:30.27 | Shirik | that's not good |
| 06:30.34 | Kyahx | 8x8 works fine thou -- so I dunno |
| 06:30.42 | Shirik | does it give you details? |
| 06:30.49 | Shirik | (error 132?) |
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| 06:30.50 | bleeter | maybe there's some weird -1,-1 going on somewhere resulting in a div by zero somewhere else ;) |
| 06:30.53 | Kyahx | yea -- didnt save the details thou |
| 06:30.59 | Kyahx | I could recreate it |
| 06:31.01 | Shirik | Think you could duplicate it and give me the details? :) |
| 06:31.07 | bleeter | wouldn't be the first time I'd seen such stupdity in a graphic program |
| 06:31.19 | shadowfaux | Torhal: other than that, ok? |
| 06:31.22 | Torhal | shadowfaux: OhNoesYouDied_OnEvent() should probably be OhNoesYouDied:OnEvent() |
| 06:31.38 | Shirik | bleeter: In all honesty, divide by zero is a masked exception on Windows unless explicitly unmasked |
| 06:31.38 | shadowfaux | whoops |
| 06:31.42 | Shirik | And I see no reason they'd unmask it |
| 06:31.55 | Kyahx | 2x2 seems to crash it as well |
| 06:31.59 | Shirik | of course, it will cause bad things if they try to use it later |
| 06:32.13 | Kyahx | Assertion failed : width >= 8 |
| 06:32.18 | Shirik | ha |
| 06:32.23 | Shirik | well there's your answer |
| 06:32.28 | Kyahx | that seems dumb |
| 06:32.29 | shadowfaux | Torhal: would that have caused the addon to effectively not run? |
| 06:32.29 | Shirik | can you give me the entire report though? |
| 06:32.42 | Shirik | I was looking for registers, really |
| 06:33.00 | Torhal | shadowfaux: Yes. You were registering an event and not supplying a valid response for it. |
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| 06:33.08 | Kyahx | Shirik: http://kyahx.pastebin.com/m5c07a42b |
| 06:33.19 | shadowfaux | ah ok, ty, i'll go try it out again then |
| 06:33.24 | Shirik | wtf |
| 06:33.25 | Shirik | pthread? |
| 06:33.27 | Shirik | What OS are you on? |
| 06:33.34 | Kyahx | OSX 10.5.6 |
| 06:33.39 | Shirik | ah |
| 06:33.43 | Shirik | I guess I'll have to duplicate it myself then ^_^ |
| 06:33.51 | Kyahx | Hackintosh -- if that would mater, but it shouldnt |
| 06:34.02 | Shirik | but thanks for pointing it out |
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| 06:42.14 | shadowfaux | Torhal: did my COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED selcts seem ok to you? |
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| 06:42.43 | Torhal | shadowfaux: No idea. I've never used that event and am not familiar with its arguments. |
| 06:43.05 | shadowfaux | ah ok np |
| 06:43.30 | shadowfaux | just tried it with the changes and still never worked so think it might be to do with them |
| 06:45.48 | Tekkub | epoch day is coming |
| 06:45.49 | Tekkub | http://coolepochcountdown.com/ |
| 06:46.17 | Torhal | shadowfaux: Use print() liberally. |
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| 06:47.28 | Torhal | Are you using AceEvent? |
| 06:47.34 | shadowfaux | nope |
| 06:47.38 | Torhal | kk |
| 06:47.40 | shadowfaux | just as is |
| 06:48.33 | Torhal | ...OnInitialize(), OnEnable(), and OnDisable() require AceAddon, and I don't see that anywhere... |
| 06:49.47 | Torhal | Like: local OhNoesYouDied = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("OhNoesYouDied") |
| 06:50.35 | shadowfaux | ah whoops |
| 06:53.44 | duaiwe | http://www.massively.com/2009/02/07/the-digital-continuum-five-criminally-unused-mmo-settings/ |
| 06:54.02 | NightHawkTheSane | I totally agree with Shadowrun. wtb Shadowrun mmo, pst. |
| 07:01.30 | Shirik | "Inner classes cannot have static declarations" |
| 07:01.34 | Shirik | why do you make these stupid restrictions Java! |
| 07:03.07 | selckin | kiss? /hide |
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| 07:26.19 | Tekkub | pandora should track the number of times you thumb-up a song |
| 07:26.41 | Tekkub | The Verve - Bittersweet Symphony ... *thumbupthumbupthumbupthumbupthumbupthumbupthumbupthumbup* |
| 07:39.34 | Shirik | Tekkub: lol |
| 07:39.42 | Shirik | you click it even though it's already clicked? |
| 07:39.43 | Elkano | true true Tekkub ^^ |
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| 07:54.45 | Fisker- | Shirik |
| 07:54.47 | Fisker- | mortal enemy |
| 07:55.04 | Shirik | Fisker-, already dead enemy |
| 07:55.15 | Fisker- | i'm not dead :( |
| 07:55.29 | ccox | Let's see: got a fever, and got a craving for sundried tomatoes in BBQ sauce -- yeah, I might be coming down with the crud |
| 08:01.58 | Tekkub | Shirik, that's what I'm saying, it should let me give it more thumbs |
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| 08:19.45 | NightHawkTheSane | So I just now noticed that one of the quest npcs in the Nagrand Nesingwary camp is Harold Lane. |
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| 08:28.12 | Shirik | ... |
| 08:28.12 | Shirik | (03:26:36) (+Shirik) Dolby: What is "Disable version warning" |
| 08:28.12 | Shirik | (03:27:17)  -⺠Netsplit (card.freenode.net â¹-⺠irc.freenode.net) 1 quits: Dolby |
| 08:28.12 | Shirik | That's messed up |
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| 08:40.01 | Lothaer | hey guys |
| 08:41.52 | Kirov | *crickets* |
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| 08:42.33 | Lothaer | well looks like 3.1 = nomore ItemRack |
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| 08:50.54 | Tekkub | you would think that |
| 08:52.25 | Shadowed | but like anything Blizzard implements |
| 08:52.31 | Shadowed | it'll probably be good enough to make it less of a pain in the ass to do |
| 08:52.36 | Shadowed | but not good enough to completely replace it |
| 08:55.32 | Shirik | Shadowed |
| 08:55.36 | Shirik | there's a name I haven't seen in a while |
| 08:55.43 | Shadowed | Shirik |
| 08:56.00 | Shadowed | that's because you don't like us enough to join #dongle anymore |
| 08:56.05 | Shirik | :( |
| 08:56.15 | Shirik | I formatted my computer and had to go off memory on setting up my autojoin again |
| 08:56.24 | Shadowed | mhmm |
| 08:56.40 | Lothaer | lol |
| 08:57.21 | Lothaer | so i wonder what the new MMO is??? any thoughts? |
| 08:57.36 | Shirik | !quote JOIN #dongle |
| 08:57.37 | batbot | Shirik, join has not said anything with your given pattern. |
| 08:57.48 | Shirik | hrm |
| 08:57.52 | Shirik | Shiibot is very defiant lately |
| 08:58.09 | Shadowed | clad would probably ban it or something |
| 08:58.19 | Shirik | I was only going to have him go in, lart you, and then leave :P |
| 08:58.31 | Shadowed | sounds like your plan was a failure |
| 08:58.35 | Shirik | it was :( |
| 08:59.56 | Shadowed | however since sleep i fun, and I hate this stupid holiday |
| 08:59.59 | Shadowed | off to sleep |
| 09:00.51 | Lothaer | later |
| 09:01.56 | Shirik | holiday? |
| 09:03.01 | Shadowed | Love is in the Air |
| 09:03.49 | Shirik | ah |
| 09:13.05 | Lothaer | booo |
| 09:17.22 | Shirik | no |
| 09:17.25 | Shirik | halloween was months ago |
| 09:17.27 | Shirik | this is valentine's day |
| 09:17.56 | Kirov | What are you talking about? I was farming the headless horseman all night! |
| 09:18.31 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 09:18.32 | Shirik | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/admin/modfiles.php?op=DL_Confirm&id=12505 |
| 09:18.35 | Shirik | oh, wrong link |
| 09:18.57 | Shirik | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12505-IceStone.html |
| 09:18.58 | Shirik | That's awesome |
| 09:22.53 | Kalroth | hahah |
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| 09:32.31 | Kalroth | Addy! |
| 09:39.07 | Adys | Kalroth! |
| 09:39.30 | Shirik | Shirik! |
| 09:39.43 | Adys | that addon is quite awesome |
| 09:43.21 | bleeter | "At 11:31:30pm UTC on Feb 13, 2009, Unix time will reach 1,234,567,890." |
| 09:43.35 | Adys | yeah but |
| 09:43.47 | Adys | it will be a while until it reaches 1,234,567,8910 |
| 09:43.48 | Shirik | slow Adys is slow |
| 09:44.01 | Shirik | er |
| 09:44.03 | jnwhiteh | Whats the lowest level I can get into Culling of Stratholme? |
| 09:44.04 | Shirik | slow bleeter |
| 09:44.12 | Adys | 75 jnwhiteh |
| 09:44.16 | jnwhiteh | boo |
| 09:44.36 | jnwhiteh | so I can't complete 'I Pity the Fool' |
| 09:44.51 | bleeter | Shirik: it's old old old news.. just letting you guys know 'coz you're all backwards :P |
| 09:44.52 | |pez| | I haven't even started on those achievements... |
| 09:44.57 | Adys | jnwhiteh: you need to enter naxx anyway |
| 09:44.59 | Adys | and thats 80 |
| 09:45.04 | jnwhiteh | oh, is it? |
| 09:45.07 | Adys | yea |
| 09:45.09 | jnwhiteh | >< |
| 09:45.10 | bleeter | Shirik: I 'knew' of that one when you were prolly still in nappies :P |
| 09:45.11 | amro | jnwhiteh: this event has the worst achievements ever |
| 09:45.16 | jnwhiteh | they're easy |
| 09:45.20 | Adys | not the worst achs |
| 09:45.21 | Shirik | nappies? |
| 09:45.25 | bleeter | diapers? |
| 09:45.26 | Adys | its the worst event ever |
| 09:45.29 | Adys | but the achs are "ok" |
| 09:45.30 | jnwhiteh | those two suck |
| 09:45.30 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 09:45.32 | Adys | except Be Mine |
| 09:45.33 | Shirik | you really call them nappies? |
| 09:45.33 | jnwhiteh | its pretty bad |
| 09:45.36 | Tekkub | you suck |
| 09:45.38 | Tekkub | true story |
| 09:45.39 | bleeter | Adys: you're the worst ever |
| 09:45.46 | Adys | your mom is |
| 09:46.16 | bleeter | Shirik: no, I lie. we call them diapers. the manufacturers just label them nappies to confuse shelf fillers at the supermarkets |
| 09:46.26 | bleeter | and checkout aisle 3 |
| 09:46.28 | Shirik | ah ok |
| 09:46.30 | bleeter | 'coz they're real stupid |
| 09:46.38 | bleeter | :P |
| 09:46.40 | Shirik | that makes sense |
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| 09:48.14 | bleeter | *obligatory notes about 64bit kernels and their notions of time |
| 09:48.31 | Tekkub | epoch day is almost here! |
| 09:50.19 | Tekkub | o/~ into the ocean, end it all. into the ocean, end it all o/~ |
| 09:50.48 | bleeter | Shirik: anyways, I think I've friend my brains. I've been reading Perelman/Cao-Zhu/Tian-Morgan and Kleiner-Lott on the proof of the Poincaire conjecture. ttfn ;) |
| 09:51.32 | amro | friended brain indeed. |
| 09:51.41 | bleeter | totally |
| 09:51.52 | Tekkub | friend brains are the best |
| 09:51.58 | Tekkub | well seasoned, of course |
| 09:52.10 | bleeter | I recommend NOT reading it if you don't like .. that thing where you go to say two words and run them together to make a new word n stuffs |
| 09:52.20 | bleeter | more emphasis on the stuffs though |
| 09:53.27 | Tekkub | you mean like moving the hyphen in "sweet-ass noun" phrases one word to the right? |
| 09:58.18 | jnwhiteh | Hrm |
| 09:58.26 | jnwhiteh | the flight from Valgarde to Dalaran is expensive! |
| 09:59.25 | Tekkub | whiner! |
| 10:01.51 | Kalroth | l2grind |
| 10:09.01 | Tekkub | who the hell flys TO dalaran anyway |
| 10:09.56 | Shirik | people who can spell flies, maybe |
| 10:10.06 | Shirik | oh snap |
| 10:10.06 | Tekkub | fuck them |
| 10:10.07 | Shirik | I went there |
| 10:10.28 | Tekkub | it's 3am here and they've been working on our roof starting at 8am the past two days |
| 10:10.34 | Tekkub | I'm sorry.. daies |
| 10:12.08 | Kirov | damn it tekkub, lern ta speul |
| 10:12.35 | Tekkub | it's not my fault engrish is such a poorly designed hodgepodge language! |
| 10:12.56 | Kirov | Yes it is! |
| 10:13.31 | Tekkub | if I'd designed it there wouldn't be any useless words |
| 10:13.36 | Tekkub | fuck ass now |
| 10:13.47 | Tekkub | you stupid |
| 10:14.08 | |pez| | I love it when people in various supportchannels are like "excuse my english, i frm x!" Where x is a country which should really be developed enough to have english as a part of their subjects at school. :P |
| 10:14.48 | Tekkub | what there's saying is "excuse my english, I was always high in that class" |
| 10:15.28 | |pez| | I'm a moderator in a supportchannel for a web application named Magento |
| 10:15.42 | |pez| | and, well, it's a web application, and it attracts all sorts of people |
| 10:15.52 | |pez| | And the ones I have most problems understanding, are the developers from India. :P |
| 10:16.08 | amro | Excuse my English, I'm from GB. |
| 10:16.11 | Fisker- | btw |
| 10:16.18 | Kirov | |pez| - personally I enjoy the "Exuse my English, I'm from *** and English is not my first language. If I'm writing anything incorrectl, please let me know so I may correct it." which gets responded to by native english speakers in a fashion similar to "ha! fag l2usa!" |
| 10:16.20 | Fisker- | macros should have a conditional for whether or not a target is a player |
| 10:16.21 | Fisker- | amirite? |
| 10:16.39 | |pez| | Kirov: -__-' |
| 10:16.48 | Tekkub | Fisker-, no |
| 10:16.53 | Tekkub | you're never right |
| 10:16.56 | |pez| | Kirov: that's just sad. |
| 10:16.59 | Tekkub | we're used to it |
| 10:18.39 | |pez| | Oh, that's smart. |
| 10:18.50 | |pez| | A guy is running with his dog tied to his belly. -__- |
| 10:19.06 | Tekkub | claws out, right? |
| 10:19.42 | |pez| | ? The dog is running to, but the leash was tied to the guys belly. |
| 10:19.45 | Tekkub | everyone knows you mount the pet with the claws pointing out |
| 10:20.02 | Tekkub | oh you mean the leash |
| 10:20.05 | Tekkub | l2engrish |
| 10:20.36 | |pez| | Atleast I'm understood most of the time! |
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| 10:39.43 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: > 11/02 Free character migrationDue to faction differences, the following Free Character Migration will be available from February 11 to 17:Horde only: Magtheridon --> Haomarush, Tarren Mill, Trollbane, Zenedar, Silvermoon (PvE) |
| 10:39.43 | Shiibot | Alliance only: Aerie Peak, Aggramar, Arathor, Azjol-Nerub, Dragonblight, Ghostlands, Hellscream, Khadgar, Kilrogg, Lightbringer, Nagrand, Silvermoon, Stormrage, Terenas, Thunderhorn, Turalyon --> Magtheridon (PvP) |
| 10:39.43 | Shiibot | Please note that any migration may be closed at any time should a destination realm's population rise too high. For questions and additional information, please see the Realms and Migration thread in the General forum. |
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| 12:29.48 | Adys | >>> "".replace("a", r"\") |
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| 12:59.13 | Goob | I have a question regarding tables in LUA specefic to the SendChatMessage function for wow |
| 13:00.19 | batrick | Lua is not an acronym friend |
| 13:00.46 | Goob | I understand its the scripting language used for the addons, but I'm running into a problem |
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| 13:01.10 | zenzio | at any rate, explain the problem |
| 13:01.24 | Goob | The table I have set up goes to something like 25000 entries, and with the SendChatMessage command I'm only able to get the variable to incrament to 99 before I'm thrown an error |
| 13:02.14 | zenzio | what error would that be? |
| 13:02.35 | Goob | Great question, let me tell you |
| 13:03.13 | frop | ehi ehi |
| 13:03.24 | frop | does Sorren ever come here? |
| 13:04.20 | Goob | If I start the variable out at 1, I can get it to cycle 99 more times. When the variable incraments to 100 I get the following error |
| 13:04.42 | Goob | Translator-1.1\Frame.lua:6: attempt to index global 'd' (a nil value) |
| 13:04.44 | Goob | <string>:"*:OnClick":1: in function <[string "*:OnClick"]:1> |
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| 13:05.15 | zenzio | you'd have to show some of your code... try putting some of it on pastey |
| 13:05.30 | Goob | The codes extremely small its just a test case |
| 13:05.50 | Goob | function Button1_OnClick() |
| 13:05.51 | Goob | SendChatMessage(d[x], "Guild", "ORCISH"); |
| 13:05.53 | Goob | x = x+1 |
| 13:06.04 | Goob | That will work up to 99 |
| 13:06.08 | Goob | at 100 error is thrown |
| 13:06.26 | zenzio | and it doesn't tell us anything because we can't see the relevant bit of code; like where you define or fill in "d" |
| 13:07.15 | Goob | The values are arbitrary but they are random english words looking like function Button2_OnClick() |
| 13:07.17 | Goob | x = 99 |
| 13:07.19 | Goob | d = {} |
| 13:07.20 | Goob | d[1] = "A" |
| 13:07.22 | Goob | d[2] = "a" |
| 13:07.23 | Goob | d[3] = "aa" |
| 13:07.25 | Goob | d[4] = "aal" |
| 13:07.26 | batrick | stop |
| 13:07.26 | Goob | d[5] = "aalii" |
| 13:07.28 | Goob | d[6] = "aam" |
| 13:07.29 | zenzio | ... |
| 13:07.29 | Goob | d[7] = "Aani" |
| 13:07.31 | Goob | d[8] = "aardvark" |
| 13:07.33 | zenzio | I SAID PASTEY |
| 13:07.42 | Goob | Sorry! I only did 8 values |
| 13:07.47 | zenzio | and that's 5 too many |
| 13:07.50 | Goob | Its the same pattern |
| 13:08.07 | zenzio | the "pattern" doesn't tell us anything unless we know the extent of the data |
| 13:08.11 | |pez| | always pastey stuff that goes over more than two lines, imho. |
| 13:09.06 | zenzio | did you try replacing SendChatMessage() with message() or even DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage() to check if they give the same error? |
| 13:09.25 | zenzio | because it sounds like you'd making some sort of simple mistake, like trying to use a nil value... like the error is saying |
| 13:09.42 | zenzio | *you're |
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| 13:11.56 | Goob | Ill try that, I have a different question tho. Do you know roughly how many values a table can hold before it overflows in wow? |
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| 13:15.25 | batrick | tables don't overflow, you run out of memory |
| 13:16.20 | Hirsute | That's what she said? |
| 13:16.32 | Hirsute | (sorry, up all night studying for an exam, I'm a little batty right now) |
| 13:16.34 | batrick | nice try |
| 13:16.42 | batrick | and punny too apparently |
| 13:17.12 | Hirsute | Yeah, Ima go take a shower and go take this test. |
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| 13:18.20 | Goob | I missed everything past message, pastey lagged out after I put too much text in |
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| 13:25.40 | Goob | zenzio, where can I find the syntax on using the message() command? I'm only seing the SendChatMessage on the API at WoWWiki |
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| 13:29.24 | Goob | Is there a way to read a file into your addon and have it execute commands based off of the contents of the file loaded in? |
| 13:32.46 | amro | Goob: no |
| 13:32.53 | Goob | Crap :( |
| 13:33.28 | Goob | Is it possible to have a table store 250000 records and still be usable? lol |
| 13:34.00 | Goob | Maybe only 25k |
| 13:34.43 | foxlit | lua> t={}; for i=1,25000 do t[i] = {}; end print("foo!") |
| 13:34.43 | lua_bot | foxlit: foo! |
| 13:35.19 | Goob | Foxlit, I have a table that contains every known english word |
| 13:35.36 | Goob | and I want the SendChatMessage to print out each word individually one at a time |
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| 13:37.02 | Goob | unless I'm doing something wrong, it seems the variable limits itself to 99 |
| 13:37.31 | foxlit | What you're doing isn't wrong |
| 13:37.31 | Goob | SendChatMessage(d[x], "Guild", "ORCISH"); |
| 13:37.34 | foxlit | It's lunacy |
| 13:37.37 | Goob | lol |
| 13:37.43 | Goob | but is it possible? |
| 13:37.59 | foxlit | Why do you want to flood your guild channel with 25k words? |
| 13:38.19 | Goob | Meh, it will be in say on a private server |
| 13:38.43 | |pez| | private servers for the lose. |
| 13:38.51 | |pez| | and illegal, remember that. |
| 13:39.22 | Goob | I'm sure it's been done but I'm trying to find out how wow translates common to orcish and vice versa |
| 13:39.41 | Goob | and the same for all of the races special language |
| 13:39.45 | Goob | like dwarvin and gutterspeak |
| 13:40.04 | |pez| | making a translator? |
| 13:40.09 | Goob | Yep |
| 13:40.14 | Goob | And I was going to automate it |
| 13:40.21 | Goob | by dual boxing on my machine |
| 13:40.33 | Goob | one spitting out every english word in one language |
| 13:40.42 | Goob | and the other side receiving it and dumping the information |
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| 13:41.19 | Goob | Immediate problem I ran into was the variable stopping at 99 and then throwing out a LUA error |
| 13:42.08 | Goob | I guess I could split up the word base into groups of 99, but given the volume I was hoping to find an alternative |
| 13:42.34 | foxlit | There's also the fact that you can't send TWENTY FIVE BLOODY THOUSAND MESSAGES at the same time. |
| 13:42.44 | Goob | it wont be at the same time |
| 13:42.47 | Goob | it would be automated |
| 13:42.51 | Goob | it goes thru |
| 13:42.54 | Goob | like |
| 13:42.57 | Goob | 1 every .5 seconds |
| 13:43.02 | Goob | or .2 seconds |
| 13:43.04 | Goob | and just streams ito ut |
| 13:43.13 | Goob | Which is why i'm using it on a private server :) |
| 13:43.16 | Pizik_afk | This sounds like a very bad way to make a translator |
| 13:44.03 | Goob | It's brute force but the language algorithm dosn't have a easy pattern to crack |
| 13:44.06 | Goob | lol is bur. . . |
| 13:44.09 | foxlit | nevermind the fact that mapping functions are many-to-many. |
| 13:44.33 | zenzio | you are breaking the rules on many points here |
| 13:44.35 | foxlit | Or perhaps many-to-one |
| 13:44.46 | zenzio | we don't talk about private servers here |
| 13:45.06 | zenzio | and you're not allowed to communicate cross-faction |
| 13:45.10 | |pez| | and there's probably also a reason why the races can't speak with eachother. |
| 13:45.14 | Goob | Apologies |
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| 13:45.39 | zenzio | I just wanted to let you know before Cairenn wakes up |
| 13:45.40 | amro | Goob: a) don't talk about private servrs. b) don't talk about cross-faction communicatoin. c) it's impossible to create a translator, as there is not a word to word or even letter to letter mapping |
| 13:45.48 | zenzio | she doesn't take kindly to such things |
| 13:45.57 | Goob | Appreciated |
| 13:46.01 | Pizik_afk | |pez|: The reason is that cross faction spam is bad enough with emotes, can you imagine a BG with crossfaction chat :oS |
| 13:46.02 | Goob | I wasn't planning on making this availabe for everyone |
| 13:46.21 | zenzio | ..? |
| 13:46.32 | |pez| | Pizik_afk: I don't wanna! |
| 13:46.42 | amro | Goob: availability is irrelevant, we don't talk about anything that breaks ToS/U here |
| 13:46.51 | Goob | fair enough |
| 13:49.29 | Lopeppeppy | When D. wakes up, he'll figure it out, zenzio. *grin* |
| 13:51.24 | Goob | The reasons for making the translator were purly academic, and while I did break a rule of mentioning something outside of the TOA it was so I wouldn't be interfering by spamming 25k words |
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| 14:54.23 | foxlit | http://www.thinkgeek.com/clearance/on-sale/9bec/ << the one on my desk is spinning like crazy atm |
| 14:54.35 | foxlit | the wonders of direct sunlight |
| 14:56.51 | Lopeppeppy | I **wish** I got sunlight in my office!! |
| 15:01.28 | foxlit | meh, next thing you know, you'll have people in your office |
| 15:02.36 | Lopeppeppy | I do, all the time. *mourns* |
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| 15:32.18 | Lopeppeppy | Happy Jelly-day! |
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| 16:04.11 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/78032638 |
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| 16:13.57 | cog|work | RAWR! |
| 16:14.25 | amro | fish can't roar! |
| 16:15.13 | cog|work | but they can rawr! |
| 16:15.17 | cog|work | :> |
| 16:15.45 | cog|work | XULE... kittehs is fish too |
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| 16:24.17 | Tem|work | this thread is priceless |
| 16:24.17 | Tem|work | http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev/browse_thread/thread/e84a9731bb69386b# |
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| 16:26.09 | aesir | thanks, Tem|work. I did actually rofl. |
| 16:26.58 | Elkano | oh yeah ^^ |
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| 16:47.38 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: > 11/02 Free character migrationDue to faction differences, the following Free Character Migration will be available from February 11 to 17:Horde only: Magtheridon --> Haomarush, Tarren Mill, Trollbane, Zenedar, Silvermoon (PvE) |
| 16:47.39 | Shiibot | Alliance only: Aerie Peak, Aggramar, Arathor, Azjol-Nerub, Dragonblight, Ghostlands, Hellscream, Khadgar, Kilrogg, Lightbringer, Nagrand, Silvermoon, Stormrage, Terenas, Thunderhorn, Turalyon --> Magtheridon (PvP) |
| 16:47.39 | Shiibot | Please note that any migration may be closed at any time should a destination realm's population rise too high. For questions and additional information, please see the Realms and Migration thread in the General forum. |
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| 16:54.02 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:54.23 | Fisker- | ½cog |
| 16:54.23 | Fisker- | fu |
| 16:54.23 | Fisker- | cog|work |
| 16:54.24 | Fisker- | i can't rawr :( |
| 17:01.48 | cog|work | station! |
| 17:04.06 | Zynderps | http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/853/wowscrnshot021209230031jz5.jpg |
| 17:04.07 | Zynderps | o wut |
| 17:08.29 | Tem|work | so wait |
| 17:08.36 | Tem|work | I wasn't being trolled when I read those hogger posts? |
| 17:10.33 | Lunessa | Hogger is bad ass. |
| 17:11.09 | Tem|work | oh my |
| 17:11.13 | Lunessa | He will jack you up! And you have got to pay attention to his enrage timer. |
| 17:12.25 | Lopeppeppy | For serious. |
| 17:12.35 | foxlit | "Running World of Warcraft through a remote connection is not supported." |
| 17:12.35 | Lopeppeppy | Make sure you have a well-balanced raid with all of the buffs in perfect synergy. |
| 17:12.40 | foxlit | qq! |
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| 17:14.20 | durcyn | RDP's a special case, but vnc works, foxlit |
| 17:16.12 | cog|work | TFSMIF |
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| 17:17.34 | Lopeppeppy | Those are a lot of words I don't understand, Cog. |
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| 17:19.22 | durcyn | Thank the Flying Spagheetti Monster It's Friday |
| 17:19.36 | durcyn | er, spaghetti. |
| 17:19.44 | aesir | Heretic! Kill him! |
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| 17:21.35 | Lunessa | http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nb/bay/news/6261228.html - so this happened last night... next door to me. |
| 17:22.52 | Lopeppeppy | Jeebus, Lunessa. *hugs* |
| 17:23.18 | cog|work | eep! |
| 17:23.32 | Lunessa | I feel bad for the folks living in those apartments. For me, it was just an inconvenience; for them a disaster. |
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| 17:26.55 | Arrowmaster | wonder if i need a jacket |
| 17:26.59 | Arrowmaster | ~weather kday |
| 17:27.09 | Arrowmaster | probably |
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| 17:36.16 | Shirik | rawr |
| 17:37.37 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR |
| 17:40.07 | Fisker- | cog|work |
| 17:40.15 | Fisker- | you're the reason why we can't have nice things |
| 17:40.16 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 17:40.54 | Lopeppeppy | Nuh-uh, it's because Cladhaire chews on the sofa. |
| 17:41.06 | Fisker- | also that |
| 17:41.37 | Fisker- | but i should be allowed to have a macro that casts something if the target is a player and something else if it's a mob |
| 17:41.37 | Fisker- | :E |
| 17:41.47 | Lopeppeppy | help/harm? |
| 17:41.54 | Fisker- | no |
| 17:41.59 | Fisker- | enemy player, enemy mob |
| 17:42.02 | Lopeppeppy | Then nope. |
| 17:42.27 | Fisker- | which brings me back to cog|work (and cladhaire) being the reason as to why we can't have nice things |
| 17:42.38 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, that was my fault. |
| 17:42.40 | Fisker- | oh and kd3 |
| 17:42.45 | Fisker- | i knocked it up a notch |
| 17:42.53 | sacarasc | BAM |
| 17:43.13 | Fisker- | i lessthanthreewithaslashthoughit |
| 17:43.14 | Fisker- | you |
| 17:43.36 | Lopeppeppy | Messed in the head. |
| 17:43.55 | Fisker- | :( |
| 17:44.05 | Fisker- | so much rage |
| 17:44.06 | Lopeppeppy | Stop gargling draino and you'll improve over time. |
| 17:44.29 | durcyn | Fisker- should never stop gargling drano |
| 17:44.42 | Lopeppeppy | I don't disagree, but I was trying not to be rage-ful. |
| 17:45.05 | Fisker- | durcyn my bff |
| 17:45.11 | durcyn | Fisker- my nemesis |
| 17:45.23 | Fisker- | oh |
| 17:45.25 | Lopeppeppy | I think I'm going to spew |
| 17:46.04 | Shirik | such a headache today >< |
| 17:46.09 | NightHawkTheSane | haha, http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/ |
| 17:46.42 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, dark rooms, tylenol, rest. |
| 17:46.53 | Shirik | rest does not exist |
| 17:47.10 | Lopeppeppy | That's your problem right there, buckaroo. |
| 17:47.21 | Lunessa | There is no Dana, only Zuul! |
| 17:47.45 | Lopeppeppy | If someone asks you if you're a god, you say YES. |
| 17:49.04 | Fisker- | http://xkcd.com/ <-fu i wanna rage |
| 17:51.24 | Shirik | dear god |
| 17:51.27 | Shirik | that must have taken forever to draw |
| 17:51.32 | Lopeppeppy | Darlin', I'm used to being single, valentines do NOT impress me. |
| 17:51.58 | Lopeppeppy | Repeating patterns, Shirik, I could do that pretty quickly in Photoshop if I had to. |
| 17:52.21 | Shirik | see |
| 17:52.26 | Shirik | you're better at something than me |
| 17:52.27 | Shirik | yay |
| 17:52.43 | Lopeppeppy | Yay for pixels! |
| 17:53.32 | Shirik | pixels are important |
| 17:54.14 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, yes we are. |
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| 18:10.35 | Lunessa | I r made of pixels and win. |
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| 18:12.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm made of piss and vinegar |
| 18:13.14 | Shirik | ... |
| 18:13.24 | Lopeppeppy | Sugar and spice and rum, that's nice. |
| 18:13.27 | haste | Are we smiles? |
| 18:13.48 | Lopeppeppy | No. |
| 18:13.53 | Lopeppeppy | Snips and snails and puppy dog tails. |
| 18:14.43 | Shirik | ?! |
| 18:14.47 | Shirik | no puppy dog tails :( |
| 18:15.21 | cog|work | Today and Saturday only (2/13/09, 2/14/09), Amazon MP3 is offering a free download of the quintessential Valentineâs Day song, âLetâs Get It Onâ by Marvin Gaye. We urge you to pick up one of our newly created banners and delight your online audience with the gift of music on this special occasion. |
| 18:15.32 | cog|work | >< |
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| 18:16.02 | Fisker- | fffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 18:16.04 | Lunessa | Let's get it on! |
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| 18:16.25 | ArrowmasterClass | drmed mp3? |
| 18:17.47 | cog|work | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001NTNJD2?tag=cogwswork-20 |
| 18:19.34 | ccox | why do I have to download and install an application to get the MP3 file? |
| 18:19.45 | ccox | Can Amazon say "trojan"? |
| 18:19.45 | cog|work | you don't |
| 18:19.47 | cog|work | l2r :P |
| 18:20.25 | cog|work | it recommends you use the downloader... there's a "skip this and download" link |
| 18:20.52 | foxlit | Do you have to have an account with a registered US credit card number? |
| 18:21.00 | cog|work | i don't know... |
| 18:21.06 | cog|work | i just got this in an e-mail from them... |
| 18:21.35 | ccox | No |
| 18:21.44 | ccox | No skip it link on my pages |
| 18:21.55 | ccox | all the download links want to install the application |
| 18:22.19 | ccox | and yes, apparently they want an account and credit card for the FREE song |
| 18:22.29 | Lopeppeppy | Bite me. |
| 18:23.10 | Lopeppeppy | Meeeps! |
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| 18:24.46 | Shirik | we can share in our pain suppressing medications |
| 18:25.21 | Lunessa | Ugh, no... that stuff is harsh on the liver. \ |
| 18:25.37 | Lopeppeppy | Ibuprophen is harsh on the blood. |
| 18:25.41 | Shirik | is all I can take |
| 18:26.04 | Shirik | ibuprophen can give me a heart attack ^_^ |
| 18:26.06 | NightHawkTheSane | rather be harsh on blood than on liver |
| 18:26.06 | Lunessa | I forget the name of the drug in Alieve, but it's pretty good. |
| 18:26.11 | NightHawkTheSane | i needs my liver for drinkin! |
| 18:27.03 | Lunessa | I've been on a low-dose ibuprofen regimen for more than a decade - because of Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. |
| 18:27.10 | Lopeppeppy | Ibuphrophen can make me bleed to death. :( |
| 18:27.22 | Lopeppeppy | Aleve is the same family as ibu, Lunessa. I can't take it either. |
| 18:27.24 | cog|work | mrs. cog is allergic to ib |
| 18:27.46 | Lunessa | Fuck it, they should bring back OTC Morphine. |
| 18:28.06 | Lopeppeppy | Hell yes. |
| 18:28.16 | cog|work | we don't need no substance control! |
| 18:28.38 | Lopeppeppy | The only pain free day in the last 4 months was when I copped a hydrocodone from a friend. It sucks that chronic pain can't be treated well. |
| 18:29.12 | Shirik | why Lopeppeppy is in pain :( |
| 18:29.41 | Lunessa | One of my best friends is a Fibromyalgia patient. I don't discuss 'pain' in her hearing. |
| 18:30.43 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, Lunessa. |
| 18:31.15 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, car accident in '97. Permanent damage to a disc in my neck and nerves and my rotator cuff. I am always in some sorta ouch state. |
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| 18:31.21 | Shirik | yuck :( |
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| 18:32.22 | Lopeppeppy | Is life. Get helmet. |
| 18:34.11 | Lunessa | Life is pain, highness. Anyone who tells you otherwise is selling something. |
| 18:37.44 | Cloudwolf | XD thats kinda true |
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| 18:38.26 | Lopeppeppy | Very true. |
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| 18:44.06 | Lunessa | I love buying an album for one song, then discovering that the artists have much much more amazing material than that which prompted my purchase. |
| 18:46.06 | alestane | Always rewarding. |
| 18:47.13 | Shirik | ok |
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| 18:47.25 | Shirik | google chrome's "view page source" doesn't actually view source |
| 18:47.27 | Shirik | wtf |
| 18:48.04 | foxlit | as in it views the parsed tag tree instead? |
| 18:48.16 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:48.33 | Shirik | So I couldn't tell if the <?xml encoding?> tag was there |
| 18:48.45 | Shirik | <3 wget |
| 18:48.51 | foxlit | link? |
| 18:49.03 | Shirik | uh |
| 18:50.21 | foxlit | How weird :/ |
| 18:50.46 | Shirik | Am I wrong in saying that's still part of the source? |
| 18:51.30 | foxlit | Part of the HTTP content regardless |
| 18:53.43 | Shirik | http://hastheicestonemelted.com/ |
| 18:54.14 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
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| 18:59.07 | Shirik | I wonder if I should go hit some golf balls |
| 19:02.31 | cog|work | depends on what you plan to hit them with and into |
| 19:03.50 | Shirik | a golf club and probably into a tree? |
| 19:04.02 | Lopeppeppy | Whee-fun |
| 19:04.39 | cog|work | ... odd |
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| 19:04.49 | cog|work | 10 oz bottle of Bawls, $1.99 |
| 19:04.56 | cog|work | 16 oz can of Bawls, $1.99 |
| 19:05.07 | Shirik | maybe bottle is more expensive to make |
| 19:05.13 | Shirik | arent their bottles glass? |
| 19:05.19 | Fisker- | cog|work ! |
| 19:05.23 | cog|work | isn't glass cheaper to recycle than aluminum? |
| 19:05.24 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe someone mislabeled someething. |
| 19:05.25 | Fisker- | You're the reason why we can't have nice things |
| 19:05.29 | Fisker- | (also cladhaire and haste) |
| 19:05.32 | Fisker- | and kd3 |
| 19:05.35 | Shirik | and Fisker- |
| 19:05.40 | Fisker- | oh |
| 19:05.41 | Fisker- | :( |
| 19:05.44 | Lopeppeppy | No, it's MY fault. |
| 19:05.44 | Fisker- | and Shirik |
| 19:05.48 | Fisker- | and Lopeppeppy |
| 19:05.55 | Shirik | yay |
| 19:05.58 | Shirik | I get to be next to Lopeppeppy |
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| 19:06.52 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14990944942&sid=1&pageNo=18#356 |
| 19:06.56 | Fisker- | Your friendly neighborhood World Designer. |
| 19:06.56 | Fisker- | The Ice Stone has melted! |
| 19:07.00 | Fisker- | OMG THIS IS A SLAP IN THE FACE |
| 19:07.13 | Fisker- | YOU CAN'T TAUNT US IN SIGNATURES WITH BUGS |
| 19:07.14 | cog|work | WHERE'S MAH BACON?! |
| 19:07.18 | Lopeppeppy | Gargle with draino was the answer earlier. |
| 19:11.58 | Cloudwolf | ~melt the world |
| 19:11.59 | purl | ACTION throws ice stones on the world |
| 19:12.53 | Cloudwolf | to wow achivement grind or not.... |
| 19:13.04 | Cloudwolf | well i dind't grind last events achivements |
| 19:13.16 | Cloudwolf | so no point in doing these cus ide have to wait forever to get the purple dragon any way |
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| 19:14.49 | Cloudwolf | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1UPMEmCqZo |
| 19:14.59 | cog|work | shit |
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| 19:19.06 | Fisker- | so cog|work |
| 19:19.08 | Fisker- | PTR tonight? |
| 19:19.14 | Fisker- | it's more likely than you think |
| 19:19.38 | Cloudwolf | lol its the PTR 1 patch ahead of the live one? |
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| 19:20.50 | Fisker- | you forgot to include shit |
| 19:26.16 | Fisker- | i just want to ptr :( |
| 19:32.05 | cog|work | Fisker-: i bet i have more facbeook friends with imdb entries than you! |
| 19:33.30 | cog|work | facebook too |
| 19:36.36 | Fisker- | i don't even use failbook |
| 19:36.52 | cog|work | told you so |
| 19:37.31 | Fisker- | but ptr tonight |
| 19:37.37 | cog|work | NO U! |
| 19:37.57 | Fisker- | PTR TONIGHT |
| 19:39.56 | Fisker- | PTR is more exciting than World of Warcraft minis |
| 19:46.48 | Lunessa | cog|work: NO U! |
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| 20:11.34 | Fisker- | no u Lunessa |
| 20:11.44 | Lunessa | No. |
| 20:11.54 | Lopeppeppy | Hi. |
| 20:13.21 | Fisker- | no u |
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| 20:14.52 | Lunessa | For heaven's sake - it's only been two-thousand years. |
| 20:15.06 | Lopeppeppy | I know, sweetie, but there's just not enough draino in the world. |
| 20:15.45 | Tekkub | so you female units... I see how this bitchy "you don't love me" thing is so powerful |
| 20:16.08 | Tekkub | I pulled it on Trey since he wanted to go out to the bar tomorrow and I'm the only one that's ever done VDay shit |
| 20:16.19 | Tekkub | this morn he had flowers and a bear :P |
| 20:16.36 | Lopeppeppy | Heh. |
| 20:19.30 | Fisker- | damn |
| 20:19.34 | Fisker- | fu |
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| 20:25.55 | Thunder_Child | you do know thats not a 'good thing' Tekkub |
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| 20:26.40 | Cloudwolf | moo |
| 20:27.52 | Lopeppeppy | Baaa. |
| 20:28.23 | cog|work | Ni. |
| 20:28.41 | Thunder_Child | are you a knight cog|work? |
| 20:29.23 | cog|work | apparently |
| 20:29.55 | Shirik | me challenges cog|work |
| 20:30.27 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us idunno cogwheel |
| 20:30.36 | cog|work | you win |
| 20:30.39 | Shirik | I guess we got rid of that bot :( |
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| 20:30.49 | cog|work | Thrae: lern2bot imo |
| 20:31.14 | cog|work | kirin tor |
| 20:31.19 | cog|work | fwiw |
| 20:31.44 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us kirin tor cogwheel |
| 20:31.50 | Shirik | It just took forever |
| 20:31.52 | Shirik | foreeeeeeeever |
| 20:32.04 | Shirik | (15:31:49)  -⺠[notice from WoW-Bot]: Shirik: Oops, parse error! You must have screwed up the command somehow. You fail. |
| 20:32.09 | Shirik | yeah... ok |
| 20:32.22 | Shirik | blame me |
| 20:34.13 | ArrowmasterClass | fuck i cant install nmap because this ubuntu VM seems to be 7.4 |
| 20:34.36 | durcyn | and that prevents you from installing nmap how |
| 20:34.37 | Lopeppeppy | Is that contagious? |
| 20:35.10 | ArrowmasterClass | because the servers dont seem to have packages for 7.4 anymore |
| 20:35.19 | durcyn | debian packages are so cute. |
| 20:35.26 | Shirik | just... compile it |
| 20:35.39 | Shirik | you know |
| 20:35.43 | Shirik | if you used gentoo, this wouldn't be a problem |
| 20:35.56 | ArrowmasterClass | its a school VM |
| 20:36.01 | Lopeppeppy | 32 more bugs in the code, 32 bugs to go, fix 'em all, compile again.... 51 more bugs in the code! |
| 20:36.10 | ArrowmasterClass | oh wait |
| 20:36.16 | ArrowmasterClass | somebody is arp poisoning the network |
| 20:36.18 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy :P |
| 20:36.28 | nevcairiel | arp poisoning is so easy to detect |
| 20:36.34 | Lopeppeppy | Sing it with me, everyone knows the song! |
| 20:36.34 | nevcairiel | stupid to do :P |
| 20:36.46 | Shirik | no Lopeppeppy :( |
| 20:36.49 | Shirik | I need to get rid of bug |
| 20:36.51 | Shirik | not make more |
| 20:37.08 | Lopeppeppy | Compiling always makes more bugs, Shirik. It's axiomatic. |
| 20:42.16 | zenzelezz | compiling never generates bugs; it only exposes the ones you've made |
| 20:42.27 | Lopeppeppy | So says you. :) |
| 20:42.40 | nevcairiel | Compiling can actually create new bugs, if you do it wrong :) |
| 20:42.43 | Lopeppeppy | Which came first, the chicken or the egg? The bug or the compiling? |
| 20:42.46 | Lopeppeppy | ^^ |
| 20:43.00 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: only for really bad compilers like old Borlands |
| 20:43.03 | Shirik | gcc -O492 |
| 20:43.12 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you. |
| 20:43.37 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: nah, if you dont know wtf you are doing, some optimization settings or linkage can cause errors in the binary that will not show on every system :) |
| 20:43.46 | Shirik | gcc -O492 optimizes the code into int main() { printf("Done!\n"); return 0; } |
| 20:43.56 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: that's user error, not compiler error |
| 20:44.09 | Shirik | I would disagree |
| 20:44.18 | zenzelezz | you're free to, but you'll never change my opinion |
| 20:44.19 | Shirik | -O3 shouldn't knowingly create problems |
| 20:44.27 | Shirik | it should just be risky |
| 20:44.27 | End | It's the user's fault to use those compile options? |
| 20:44.30 | nevcairiel | I didnt say -O3 would do it |
| 20:44.33 | Cloudwolf | banana phone |
| 20:44.38 | Shirik | I wasn't disagreeing with you nevcairiel :P |
| 20:44.43 | End | that's the only way I can see why you'd call it user error :P |
| 20:45.08 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: also i never said the compiler was causing issues, the act of compiling can by users fault =P |
| 20:45.24 | Tekkub | Shirik like to play with balls |
| 20:45.24 | Tekkub | heh |
| 20:45.31 | Shirik | Tekkub: Only tiny ones |
| 20:45.47 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: then I was reading you incorrectly |
| 20:45.52 | Tekkub | they're larger than average ones |
| 20:46.00 | Shirik | true, but they're no basketballs |
| 20:46.16 | Tekkub | those wouldn't fit in your pants |
| 20:46.28 | Lopeppeppy | ... |
| 20:46.33 | Shirik | I dunno, you might be able to find some at those big size stores |
| 20:46.34 | Lopeppeppy | One word: utilikilt |
| 20:47.00 | zenzelezz | End: yes, if using an optimization causes something to behave differently from your expectations, then you should familiarize yourself with said optimization before using it (on release versions) |
| 20:47.15 | Tekkub | I still want to get a utilikilt |
| 20:47.19 | Fisker- | PTR |
| 20:47.26 | Tekkub | I might after Trey finds a job |
| 20:47.34 | Tekkub | I have plenty of money stuck aside |
| 20:47.37 | Lopeppeppy | They can be *very* nice, Tek. |
| 20:47.56 | End | zenzelezz: in earlier GCC version even -O2 would cause problems |
| 20:48.02 | End | and most people think -O2 is safe |
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| 20:48.22 | Shirik | me |
| 20:48.23 | Tekkub | safer than -CO2 |
| 20:48.23 | Shirik | meh |
| 20:48.32 | Shirik | compiler optimizations are lazy anyway |
| 20:48.38 | zenzelezz | End: most people thought DDT was safe |
| 20:49.06 | Shirik | anyway |
| 20:49.08 | End | that's why we have a federal ban on -O2 in public distributed makefiles! |
| 20:49.08 | Shirik | for reals, shower time |
| 20:49.16 | Lopeppeppy | Yaaay. |
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| 20:49.51 | ZorbaTHut | pure -O2 is dangerous when exposed to Firefox. Caution is advised. |
| 20:50.01 | ScytheBlade1 | s/-O2/-O3/ |
| 20:50.06 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ always do that |
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| 20:50.45 | cog|work | ZorbaTHut: i got it |
| 20:51.03 | durcyn | real men use -Os |
| 20:52.26 | End | real men optimize over space and time! |
| 20:52.33 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. and therefore do not exist. |
| 20:53.30 | zenzelezz | optimizations can be nice; but generally code should be written in a manner that doesn't need much optimization |
| 20:54.04 | ZorbaTHut | I disagree. code should be written in a manner such that it is easy to maintain |
| 20:54.09 | selckin | real men set the universe constants to get what they need |
| 20:54.16 | ZorbaTHut | sometimes, that turns out to make it slow, also. then, you optimize. |
| 20:56.04 | Fisker- | i'm gonna keep PTR'ing until it arrives |
| 20:56.05 | zenzelezz | ZorbaTHut: I didn't say you should write hard-to-maintain code. In case of a conflict, readability should go before speed except in special circumstances; but for most things you can reach a nice compromise |
| 20:56.11 | End | well |
| 20:56.23 | ZorbaTHut | zenzelezz, ah, agreed |
| 20:57.01 | End | we're not talking about optimizations by hand though |
| 20:57.17 | nevcairiel | some optimizations are silly to do by hand |
| 20:57.20 | nevcairiel | like loop unrolling |
| 20:57.20 | zenzelezz | we were talking about manually telling the compiler to use optimizations |
| 20:57.24 | Fisker- | you can't stop me |
| 20:57.57 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: simple, obvious optimizations are fine for the compiler to do. But anything advanced should be used with caution |
| 20:58.34 | selckin | bad compiler is bad. |
| 20:58.44 | End | by default, gcc doesn't optimize at all :P |
| 20:58.46 | selckin | its not an optimizaiton if it breaks the code |
| 20:59.14 | End | (make might pass specific flags to gcc by default though) |
| 20:59.21 | Shirik | nevcairiel! Incorrect! |
| 20:59.27 | Fisker- | PTR PTR PTR PTR PTR PTR PTR PTR PTR PTR PTR |
| 20:59.29 | End | (which is where you can have problems) |
| 20:59.34 | End | Fisker-: whut! |
| 20:59.36 | Shirik | There are certain loops which you have to do by hand! |
| 20:59.45 | Shirik | This is what my paper's all about :D |
| 20:59.57 | cog|work | <3 Duff's Device |
| 21:00.02 | Lopeppeppy | That's crocheting, Shirik. |
| 21:00.05 | Fisker- | giev PTR :( |
| 21:00.07 | Shirik | the what? |
| 21:00.10 | nevcairiel | Shirik: your paper is about loops that require manual unrolling? |
| 21:00.12 | Shirik | ~dict crocheting |
| 21:00.19 | End | Fisker- got me all excited for nothing |
| 21:00.35 | Shirik | nevcairiel: well, a specific case, but yes |
| 21:00.43 | Fisker- | it's coming End |
| 21:00.44 | Fisker- | believe it |
| 21:00.58 | Shirik | But it's more directed at the programmers whom don't have the knowledge of architecture to understand why the compiler refuses to optimize it |
| 21:01.02 | End | it's not particularly useful unless its here though! |
| 21:01.05 | nevcairiel | Its a NFTR, No Fisker- Test Realm, and we're all on it |
| 21:01.06 | Shirik | Because the compiler has a good reason |
| 21:02.06 | Fisker- | :( nevcairiel |
| 21:02.08 | Fisker- | i hate you |
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| 21:02.33 | Shirik | So why exactly did chrome decide to go with separate processes instead of threads? |
| 21:02.59 | End | paranoia |
| 21:03.32 | selckin | so it can crash |
| 21:03.46 | Shirik | that seems... broken |
| 21:04.00 | Fisker- | it's the new black |
| 21:04.03 | Fisker- | everyone is doing it |
| 21:04.04 | selckin | stupid guess anyway |
| 21:04.09 | Shirik | that's like "my program might crash, so I'll try { ... all of my code ... } catch(...) {goto Main;} |
| 21:04.14 | Fisker- | except failfox and opera |
| 21:04.19 | End | well |
| 21:04.24 | ScytheBlade1 | That way they could get some nice performance without worrying about threading crap |
| 21:04.33 | End | I think it's really good that plugins are in their own process |
| 21:04.45 | Shirik | except in my chrome they're not |
| 21:04.51 | End | they are for me |
| 21:05.02 | Fisker- | they are |
| 21:05.06 | End | l2chrome Shirik |
| 21:05.08 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 21:05.10 | Shirik | Chrome is broken on Windows 7; a way to fix it is to start chrome with --in-process-plugins |
| 21:05.16 | End | ah |
| 21:05.29 | End | well, that's what you get for using beta software |
| 21:05.32 | Shirik | :P |
| 21:05.35 | Shirik | beta on beta |
| 21:05.36 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 21:05.36 | End | wait, chrome is probably beta too :o |
| 21:05.37 | Shirik | is pretty pro |
| 21:05.42 | selckin | i don't see the benefit to chrome :\ |
| 21:05.47 | Shirik | It's faster |
| 21:05.51 | selckin | lies |
| 21:05.53 | selckin | and who cares |
| 21:05.53 | Fisker- | it's awesomer |
| 21:05.54 | Shirik | like, I don't have to wait |
| 21:06.02 | Lunessa | chrome's major draw for me is that is goddamned fast. |
| 21:06.16 | Fisker- | fast and awesum design |
| 21:06.16 | bleeter | telnet's faster |
| 21:06.17 | selckin | you're just quoting press releases |
| 21:06.21 | End | I use chrome for some things |
| 21:06.23 | selckin | i haven't noticed it one bit |
| 21:06.28 | Shirik | uh |
| 21:06.29 | Fisker- | nah bleeter |
| 21:06.33 | Fisker- | telnet is slower |
| 21:06.33 | Shirik | no, this is from experience |
| 21:06.35 | cog|work | selckin: lern2javascriptbenchmark |
| 21:06.44 | selckin | yeah thats a real world test |
| 21:06.59 | selckin | you can make anything look fast or slow with a special benchmark |
| 21:07.00 | bleeter | so how's it compare to ff3.1? |
| 21:07.01 | nevcairiel | I still need a proper adblock and some other extensions before i will use chrome |
| 21:07.07 | bleeter | nevcairiel: ^^ |
| 21:07.12 | Fisker- | adblock are for leeches |
| 21:07.16 | ScytheBlade1 | The current FF beta eats chrome alive in JS performance |
| 21:07.17 | Shirik | selckin: lolol fibonacci test |
| 21:07.22 | Fisker- | except when blocking blizztard ads |
| 21:07.30 | End | I adblock certain things |
| 21:07.31 | Shirik | But no seriously, real-world applications, Chrome has a noticable difference |
| 21:07.34 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: funny that ;) |
| 21:07.37 | End | mostly to prevent popups and whatnot :P |
| 21:07.39 | Shirik | if you don't notice it, you either don't do enough with your computer or haven't used it enough |
| 21:07.43 | bleeter | End: ^^ |
| 21:07.54 | Shirik | or have a beowulf cluster |
| 21:07.55 | End | I -usually- don't care about banner ads, but popups make me angry |
| 21:08.01 | Lopeppeppy | AwoooOOOOOooooooo |
| 21:08.06 | bleeter | awrwarawrrrr |
| 21:08.09 | Shirik | wahhhhh loud noise |
| 21:08.10 | End | so do the javascript mouseover autolink thingies |
| 21:08.11 | Shirik | is Daytona 500 today? |
| 21:08.18 | Shirik | I think they just did a flyby |
| 21:08.18 | Shirik | heh |
| 21:08.19 | Fisker- | PTR |
| 21:08.30 | End | Fisker-: shut up unless its actually up |
| 21:08.31 | bleeter | i thought daytona was cars |
| 21:08.37 | bleeter | and... oshkosh or whatever.. was planes |
| 21:08.38 | Shirik | yeah but they always have jets fly over |
| 21:08.46 | Fisker- | make me |
| 21:08.48 | bleeter | oh |
| 21:08.49 | Fisker- | btw |
| 21:08.58 | bleeter | Adys: patch? |
| 21:08.58 | Fisker- | oh and btw |
| 21:09.04 | Fisker- | getting gelp from ops is forbidden |
| 21:09.09 | Adys | bleeter: ? |
| 21:09.10 | Fisker- | help* |
| 21:09.12 | End | Shirik: halp |
| 21:09.14 | nevcairiel | Hm Apparently the google people claim to have extensions support by april or may |
| 21:09.15 | bleeter | Adys: just thought I'd ask ;) |
| 21:09.17 | End | Fisker- needs to shut up |
| 21:09.21 | Adys | ? |
| 21:09.24 | Fisker- | no cheating! |
| 21:09.27 | End | :D |
| 21:09.36 | End | although I could just put you on ignore again ;-) |
| 21:09.39 | Adys | nevcairiel: most of the api is ready |
| 21:09.51 | bleeter | nevcairiel: are google using the same advertising method to chrome devs as the MS IE folks are for the next IE? |
| 21:09.52 | Shirik | My API is ready :D |
| 21:10.06 | Adys | you can enable some basic support in dev builds |
| 21:10.09 | bleeter | 'No one's using so no one's writing extensions/plugins.. so the market's ripe!' |
| 21:10.11 | Adys | i dont use chrome atm tho |
| 21:10.54 | bleeter | I'll wait to see how 'terrible' FF3.1 is, and chrome to actually come out of beta, before I decide whether to switch |
| 21:10.55 | Lopeppeppy | End, if you can teach me how to ignore people you can have my murloc. |
| 21:10.56 | nevcairiel | bleeter: oh i dont think that will ever happen, people will write alot of extensions once a release is out with a stable API |
| 21:11.04 | bleeter | from reading the release foo on CHrome, it's like WoW... always in Beta |
| 21:11.12 | End | I dunno, irssi has an /ignore command |
| 21:11.13 | Adys | except |
| 21:11.15 | Adys | its not |
| 21:11.24 | nevcairiel | isnt Chrome releases as non-beta already? |
| 21:11.28 | nevcairiel | *releaed |
| 21:11.29 | Adys | yeah it is |
| 21:11.30 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 21:11.32 | bleeter | 1.0 |
| 21:11.35 | Adys | its soon 2.0 too |
| 21:11.36 | Lopeppeppy | End: I use Trillian, it sadly does NOT have ignore. |
| 21:11.40 | bleeter | when was a 1.0 ever a real release? |
| 21:11.41 | Fisker- | bleeter what has Final Fantasy to do with anything? |
| 21:11.46 | Adys | they're extremely fast paced |
| 21:11.47 | End | well, I dunno much about trillian |
| 21:11.50 | Fisker- | lol Lopeppeppy |
| 21:12.20 | Fisker- | http://www.bigblueball.com/forums/irc/20212-trillian-irc-command-reference.html |
| 21:12.26 | Adys | chrome is the messiah of browsers atm and google is well aware of their opportunity |
| 21:12.27 | Fisker- | [*]/ignore [hostmask / nick] [type] |
| 21:12.28 | Fisker- | ignores messages of a specific type from the given nickname or hostmask. types supported: ALL MSGS INVITES NOTICES CTCPS PUBLIC WALLOPS NONE -- this one effectively removes the entry from your ignore list |
| 21:12.37 | Thunder_Child | uh ScytheBlade1, 32-bit FF works just fine as well |
| 21:12.47 | nevcairiel | ScytheBlade1: 64-bit FF is meh, i needz some plugins |
| 21:12.49 | Adys | firefox |
| 21:12.51 | Adys | doesnt work |
| 21:12.53 | Adys | just fine |
| 21:12.59 | bleeter | more |
| 21:13.00 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel: seeing as I hate flash, I'm perfectly content |
| 21:13.04 | bleeter | simple text |
| 21:13.08 | bleeter | sentence spread |
| 21:13.15 | nevcairiel | i believe flash even has a native 64bit thingy now |
| 21:13.17 | Lunessa | For serious browsing, I use Firefox - for speed access to web-based tools here at work on our network, I use Chrome. |
| 21:13.20 | nevcairiel | maybe only for linux |
| 21:13.20 | nevcairiel | shrug |
| 21:13.21 | ScytheBlade1 | on linux only |
| 21:13.23 | ScytheBlade1 | oddly |
| 21:13.24 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 21:13.37 | Adys | linux situation is SO bad |
| 21:13.43 | bleeter | no u |
| 21:13.46 | Adys | with flash that is |
| 21:13.48 | nevcairiel | I like my acrobat reader plugin in firefox though |
| 21:13.57 | Adys | what |
| 21:14.00 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you Fisker-. I'll look those through on Monday. |
| 21:14.17 | Adys | get foxreader or whatever its name was |
| 21:14.26 | Adys | foxit reader |
| 21:14.44 | nevcairiel | same thing, probably no 64bit plugin |
| 21:14.54 | Adys | its not a plugin |
| 21:14.59 | Adys | its faster than a plugin |
| 21:15.00 | haste | http://www.tuxradar.com/content/browser-benchmarks-2-even-wine-beats-linux-firefox comes to mind |
| 21:15.04 | Lopeppeppy | I use Trillian so that I can get everything in one program. I use so many chat programs to get in touch with my coworkers it's just sad. |
| 21:15.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, nevcairiel. You're the ONLY PERSON I KNOW OF WHO LIKES ADOBE READER. I -HATE-, EMO QUALITY -HATE- that plugin |
| 21:15.42 | Adys | ~touch Lopeppeppy's coworker |
| 21:15.43 | purl | This is Fendor's pleasure only |
| 21:15.51 | nevcairiel | I don't particularly like the plugin, i just like the ability to view pdf's in my browser <.< |
| 21:15.52 | Adys | who's fendor |
| 21:16.09 | Adys | nevcairiel: theres a google api for that |
| 21:16.13 | Adys | that converts pdf=>html |
| 21:16.19 | nevcairiel | those are fugly |
| 21:16.26 | Adys | those arent slow |
| 21:16.36 | Adys | actually, screw the slow part |
| 21:16.42 | bleeter | haste: as the comments say, throw away GCC and use ICC and the results are different |
| 21:16.43 | Adys | they dont hog your system for 10 mins |
| 21:17.04 | bleeter | because MSVC is apparently better at optimisation, which is hardly suprising as MS have the money to back such foo |
| 21:17.25 | End | ICC? |
| 21:17.31 | End | isn't ICC intel? |
| 21:17.35 | haste | it is |
| 21:19.48 | bleeter | yeah... intel. GCC has some really fucked up ideas about optimisation ;) |
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| 21:23.24 | Lunessa | See, and people wonder why I don't have Linux running on a box right now? Because I got tired of listening to all the hoopla every time I ran into a problem. I just said 'Fuck it" and installed Windows again. |
| 21:23.38 | bleeter | Every OS Sucks |
| 21:23.50 | Lopeppeppy | ^ |
| 21:23.53 | bleeter | choose the tool for the job, not the job for the tool etc. etc. |
| 21:24.02 | ScytheBlade1 | BUT I HAVE THIS GREAT HAMMER |
| 21:24.07 | ScytheBlade1 | EVERYTHING -MUST- BE A NAIL! |
| 21:24.34 | Lunessa | Correct. And since mostly what I use my PC at home for is browsing, e-mail and WoW, I just said "fuck it, Windows will do." |
| 21:24.43 | nevcairiel | ScytheBlade1: which 64bit build do you use anyway? mozilla-x86-64.com? |
| 21:24.47 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 21:25.06 | ScytheBlade1 | On linux, I run the native provided 64-bit binaries |
| 21:25.30 | nevcairiel | I compiled my own on linux, but i run gentoo, so thats to be expected =P |
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| 21:25.33 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:25.39 | Shirik | time to go hit golf balls |
| 21:25.40 | Shirik | byebye |
| 21:25.52 | Lopeppeppy | bye bye too for Peppy, I go home now. |
| 21:25.53 | bleeter | <insert ricer jokes here> |
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| 21:27.07 | Lunessa | If I was doing computing as a gearhead hobby like I used to, I'd totally be running some *nix flavor at home. But, hell I get paid to support Windows and Mac OS X all the time and at home, I just don't have the energy left over for more. |
| 21:27.52 | NightHawkTheSane | does running osx really require that much extra energy? >.> |
| 21:28.35 | foxlit | I don't think Lunessa was actually considering buying hardware as well |
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| 21:29.45 | NightHawkTheSane | oh wait, i misread, nevermind. |
| 21:30.07 | Fisker- | if only i could turn on ptr |
| 21:30.25 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Nah. Mac OS X 'just works' cause I don't have to do shit. It's all set up and married to the hardware for me. So I can be lazy and not think about it. :P |
| 21:30.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: yeah, i misread what you were saying. :) |
| 21:30.52 | Lunessa | Yeah. |
| 21:31.05 | sysrage_ | i stopped running linux at home for the same reason. i love it. i use it at work all day. i just want to not use my brain when i get home. hhe |
| 21:31.24 | Lunessa | I need a vacation - some one got a good/inexpensive place I should plan for this year? |
| 21:32.06 | Lunessa | Too harsh: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14990776601&sid=1#13 |
| 21:32.21 | bleeter | and there's the problem. any Linux that requires little or no user support is 4-5 years old. Sure, dead stable.. but brain dead to recent stuff too |
| 21:32.36 | bleeter | and that doesn't satisfy us nerds |
| 21:33.42 | durcyn | i dunno, i've got three gentoo boxes at home that i'm happy with, binary distributions my ass. |
| 21:35.55 | Lunessa | Don't get me wrong, I'm a nerd/geek/freak - I'm just tired and no longer see the need to use tinkering with my pc's OS as a source of entertainment. |
| 21:36.19 | Lunessa | I support others who do whole-heartedly. |
| 21:37.09 | cog|work | Lunessa: Wine country! |
| 21:37.37 | Fisker- | Lunessa |
| 21:37.43 | Lunessa | cog|work: Now that's an idea... I could spend two weeks getting hammered with wine snobs! |
| 21:37.51 | Fisker- | you should post that there should be a [isplayer] conditional |
| 21:37.53 | cog|work | and you'd have a free room imo |
| 21:38.07 | Lunessa | crashing with the 'wheels? |
| 21:38.16 | cog|work | :) |
| 21:38.24 | Lunessa | Sweet. I'm totally down. |
| 21:38.53 | cog|work | Fisker-: i'm pretty sure slouken declined that a while back |
| 21:38.53 | Lunessa | Fisker-: I would, but it's been requested and declined many times since '06 |
| 21:39.13 | Fisker- | :( |
| 21:39.35 | Fisker- | not open to abuse any more than exists and dead etc. is |
| 21:39.57 | Lunessa | You should have seen the feceesstorm of arguments about those sorts of things in Jan 07. |
| 21:40.17 | Fisker- | i want to :( |
| 21:40.50 | Lunessa | Let's just say that it was... not a fun time to be a forum regular. |
| 21:41.21 | bleeter | When I read Tigole's departure from WoW post.. I could've *SWORN* first read he said that working with the programmers had been a 'horror' |
| 21:41.42 | Lunessa | Tigole was too hihg-strung for CS work. |
| 21:41.50 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 21:41.53 | bleeter | of course that made me re-read 'honor' |
| 21:42.41 | Fisker- | i tried to troll ghostcrawler though |
| 21:42.42 | Fisker- | he didn't bite |
| 21:42.59 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=8041844856&sid=1&pageNo=3#45 |
| 21:44.12 | nevcairiel | I doubt GC reads every post in a goodbye thread =P |
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| 21:46.07 | selckin | reading every post would be plain torture |
| 21:46.20 | nevcairiel | especially fiskers |
| 21:46.37 | Fisker- | no u |
| 21:47.54 | bleeter | selckin: yeah, that's why they employ people to do that. you'd have to pay me... but I don't think Blizz earn enough $ per month to make it worth my while ;) |
| 21:48.10 | selckin | who asked you |
| 21:48.14 | bleeter | (well, not every post.. every reported post and then a few others) |
| 21:48.37 | bleeter | selckin: same person who allowed you to speak in this # |
| 21:52.06 | Lunessa | I'd have to say that being the front man for any major MMO project is harsh - fans are bastards usually. |
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| 21:52.40 | cog|work | ~tickle |Jelly| |
| 21:52.41 | purl | ACTION jumps on |Jelly|, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 21:53.19 | amro | bleeter: what do you mean by litte or no user support? |
| 21:53.33 | Lunessa | cog|work: WoWprogramming.com errors. |
| 21:53.44 | cog|work | just saw forum post... |
| 21:53.48 | cog|work | jnwhiteh: ping |
| 21:56.37 | bleeter | Lunessa: re: front man.... that's kinda the corollary of 'Every OS Sucks' isn't it? 'Every luser...' |
| 21:56.44 | Lunessa | Being a guild leader gives me many opportunities to abuse the MOTD to rickroll my guild. |
| 21:57.07 | selckin | and fail at humor |
| 21:57.10 | Lunessa | bleeter: Well, yeah. Everything sucks. |
| 21:57.17 | |Jelly| | Lunessa: I do that as an officer. |
| 21:57.34 | |Jelly| | "Fornicate with your divan" was up there for a while. Then I got tired of explaining it. |
| 21:57.46 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI <-- lol |
| 21:59.04 | mikma | OMG |
| 21:59.08 | mikma | RICKROLLED! |
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| 21:59.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, that was totally too easy |
| 21:59.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I said I was going to like 10 lines up too |
| 22:00.01 | mikma | yeah |
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| 22:00.12 | mikma | but it needs to be screamed anyway |
| 22:00.23 | ScytheBlade1 | fair enough |
| 22:02.33 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: So, like... they don't know what furniture is called? |
| 22:03.11 | NightHawkTheSane | wtf is up with my connection.. |
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| 22:03.34 | |Jelly| | Or what fornicate meant. |
| 22:03.39 | durcyn | "fuck your couch", eh. cute. |
| 22:04.05 | Lunessa | Seriously, I mean, who gets to be an adult without knowing the word fornicate? |
| 22:04.38 | bleeter | we're talking WoW lusers here! |
| 22:04.40 | |Jelly| | Who said we're talking about adults here? lol |
| 22:04.46 | bleeter | no offence meant to |Jelly|'s guild... much ;) |
| 22:05.08 | |Jelly| | Oh, I make fun of them more than you are. lol |
| 22:06.25 | amro | bleeter: answer me, or face my wrath! |
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| 22:08.43 | |Jelly| | BTW Cog, my roomie loved your old FB status (from earlier today :P) |
| 22:09.15 | cog|work | The FSM one? |
| 22:09.40 | |Jelly| | Yes |
| 22:09.50 | cog|work | :) |
| 22:10.17 | Fisker- | if only i could turn on ptr |
| 22:10.19 | Fisker- | (again) |
| 22:11.39 | amro | ~whalenuke bleeter |
| 22:11.40 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around bleeter with his mind powers. |
| 22:15.55 | Fisker- | i'm invincible |
| 22:16.52 | bleeter | amro: reliably detects hardware, doesn't require special boot time flags, working knowledge of package management and xorg.conf config, etc. etc. |
| 22:19.49 | amro | bleeter: you've been on fedora for too long, you don't have to go back 5 years for a stable distro |
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| 22:25.25 | bleeter | amro: actually, I'm using Freedora these days ;) |
| 22:25.39 | bleeter | well custom version thereof |
| 22:25.58 | amro | is that a project to rescue dora the explorer? :P |
| 22:26.20 | bleeter | :P freedora is to fedora what gnewsense is to debian.. more or less |
| 22:27.55 | bleeter | i was going to try Blag but the tracker never responds to me :( |
| 22:28.40 | Lopeppeppy | Hmmm, Shirik has gone poofdah. |
| 22:28.47 | bleeter | oO |
| 22:28.57 | bleeter | rule #1.. NAH POOFTAHS! |
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| 22:29.24 | Lopeppeppy | That's what I said. I has for him these questions three, but he ain't present. |
| 22:29.48 | AbsolutRayne | What sort of Roleplaying Wackyness did I walk in on? |
| 22:30.18 | Lopeppeppy | Meh. How do I tell what bit-version of Java I'm running? *sigh* |
| 22:30.27 | amro | bleeter: blag's site is... weird |
| 22:31.26 | bleeter | amro: in their favour, blag's technically just the linux user group for Brighton UK (iirc)... can't be that many folks there so tiny site |
| 22:33.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: Vista? Or XP? |
| 22:33.01 | Fisker- | how could you cog|work? |
| 22:33.25 | Lopeppeppy | Sbo: Vista |
| 22:34.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: in the control panel, you have Java either in the main control panel, or under a sub section labeled something like "32-bit Control Panel Applets" |
| 22:35.21 | Lopeppeppy | Entry is for Java, under about it just tells me version number, not bit-version. |
| 22:35.34 | ScytheBlade1 | You can tell what it is from where it's located in the control panel |
| 22:35.38 | ScytheBlade1 | 64-bit Vista, yes? |
| 22:35.48 | Lyn | mikma, do you know if some mod exist like colorpicker? :o |
| 22:36.00 | Lopeppeppy | I... think so... these are numbers, ScytheBlade1, and I'm a bit dyslexic where numbers are concerned. |
| 22:36.19 | zenzelezz | aren't most women? |
| 22:36.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Right-click Computer in the start menu, Properties |
| 22:36.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Under System, "System Type: " --> 64-bit |
| 22:36.50 | ScytheBlade1 | (or 32) |
| 22:37.08 | bleeter | huh? |
| 22:37.13 | Lopeppeppy | 32. |
| 22:37.13 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Fortunately, you won't need to get the order right. |
| 22:37.14 | Lyn | mikma, nevermind |
| 22:37.21 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: "java.exe -version" doesn't work? |
| 22:37.29 | Lopeppeppy | Nothing is in the same place as in XP. |
| 22:37.36 | Lopeppeppy | bleeter dear, it might work, if I knew where to use it. |
| 22:37.42 | amro | Start button is :P |
| 22:37.52 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: prolly program files/java/jre6/bin |
| 22:37.53 | mikma | lyn: schimanski? |
| 22:37.59 | bleeter | which should be in your path :/ |
| 22:38.19 | amro | Lopeppeppy: try Start->Run>"cmd" and type it there |
| 22:38.26 | alestane | You're assuming she's in the regular habit of using a command-line. |
| 22:38.47 | bleeter | the :/ was more a 'if it's not then erg more probs than just not knowing the version #' ;) |
| 22:39.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: okay, if your Vista is 32, then your Java cannot be 64, so it must be 32 |
| 22:39.58 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, ScytheBlade1. That's what I figured. And now I know my numbers, I can brand them on the laptop cover or something. |
| 22:40.03 | zenzelezz | unless the Java is rich and Vista is just hanging out with it for his money |
| 22:40.55 | Lunessa | vista is always just hanging out for the money. |
| 22:41.07 | zenzelezz | gold digger, eh |
| 22:41.11 | bleeter | man, I wish I'd rolled more ranged DPS |
| 22:41.14 | Lopeppeppy | For serious. |
| 22:41.25 | bleeter | can't seem to find a server that's not crying out for it.. silly DKs |
| 22:41.42 | amro | Not enough mana. |
| 22:41.48 | amro | yeah go ranged >< |
| 22:41.52 | bleeter | next hero class: ranged DPS and heals. 'oh my, never saw that coming' |
| 22:42.53 | bleeter | then all raids will be hero class only newbs will be stuck with no instances at all lol |
| 22:42.53 | zenzelezz | next hero class will probably be the Undeath Knight; basically a paladin that starts at 55 |
| 22:42.53 | amro | next hero class: ranged tank. yep. |
| 22:43.48 | foxlit | amro: that's easily arranged by giving moonkins a taunt |
| 22:43.55 | ZorbaTHut | it's all about the melee healer |
| 22:44.03 | zenzelezz | if we're really lucky, the next hero class will be the bard. It will be like the Toy Train |
| 22:44.21 | bleeter | foxlit: I thought moonkins already had a taunt.. that they look and taste like chicken. (OK, maybe I spend too much time on RP realms...) |
| 22:44.23 | amro | foxlit: no need, at the rate their dps is increasing they're going to steal aggro by 3.1 |
| 22:44.52 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: it's all about the pentiums, silly :P |
| 22:45.20 | foxlit | /sigh |
| 22:46.22 | ZorbaTHut | bleeter, stop tasting the moonkins. they think it's creepy. |
| 22:46.43 | Lopeppeppy | Yay. Now for dinner! *waves* |
| 22:46.53 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks for the help with numbers, guys. I appreciate it. *hugs all around* |
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| 22:47.02 | foxlit | profiles are hell :/ |
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| 22:49.27 | zenzelezz | profiles? |
| 22:50.11 | foxlit | Save a whole bunch of addon configurations as one set and allow switching between previously saved sets. |
| 22:52.48 | Lunessa | Such douchebaggery |
| 22:52.50 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14990776601&sid=1 |
| 22:56.24 | Lunessa | I laugh because the macros he's using to justify his position don't do what he expects. |
| 22:57.13 | Lunessa | PickUpAction is protected /facepalm |
| 22:58.36 | cog|work | ~fail Fisker- |
| 22:58.37 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Fisker-. I hate you because you fail. |
| 23:00.35 | bleeter | cog|work: I ASSXPECT BETTARARZ FROM YOUSE!!!! |
| 23:00.59 | bleeter | *FRUM |
| 23:02.38 | Lunessa | I love it when someone adopts that pose - they're ALWAYS trying to snow you. |
| 23:03.01 | foxlit | snow you too! |
| 23:03.14 | cog|work | Lunessa: i think you need to reiterate that the macro doesn't do what (s)he thinks it does :P |
| 23:04.06 | Lunessa | I did - multiple times. |
| 23:04.19 | bleeter | woohoo demands for a blue post |
| 23:06.01 | Lunessa | I should be leaving the office, but I'm entertained by this thread (until Zoot or other Blizzard poster locks it) so I'm waiting a bit before leaving. |
| 23:06.58 | Arrowmaster | actually i think the macro does do what he thinks it does, and what he wants to do is possible |
| 23:07.19 | Lunessa | The linked macro will fail in combat. |
| 23:07.33 | foxlit | You're not in combat while you're in stealth |
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| 23:08.23 | Lunessa | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.39 | Lunessa | er, compare targets in combat. |
| 23:09.08 | Arrowmaster | he doesnt think it compares targets |
| 23:09.25 | foxlit | meh. |
| 23:09.32 | foxlit | swap UnitExists with UnitisUnit |
| 23:10.17 | cbreak | you can be in combat and in stealth I think? |
| 23:10.23 | cbreak | at least I can be in combat and invisible |
| 23:10.23 | Lunessa | The linked macro is pretty clever - clunky, but clever. Still, I expect it will lead to further lock downs. |
| 23:10.26 | Arrowmaster | what he wants is 100% possible without exploiting imho, you can do it without using PickUpAction() too by using multiple secure buttons |
| 23:10.35 | cbreak | even though the act of going invisible pulls me out of combat |
| 23:10.46 | foxlit | cbreak: yeah, the two aren't incompatible |
| 23:10.50 | foxlit | stealth breaks on damage, not combat. |
| 23:10.55 | cog|work | RAWR!!~!! |
| 23:10.58 | foxlit | (but, generally, you're out of combat while sneaking around) |
| 23:10.59 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster but it's not possible in a macro. :) |
| 23:11.46 | Arrowmaster | you could do it with secure buttons and PreClick/PostClick and avoid the entire possiblity of it being messed up if you are in combat by having it do something else incombat |
| 23:12.05 | Lunessa | And, now is the time on Sprockets when we leave work to go get dinner. |
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| 23:16.53 | Arrowmaster | #freenode-epoch is commenting on my long hostmask cloak now |
| 23:17.14 | Shirik | happy epoch day (yes I know I'm late) |
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| 23:22.21 | foxlit | I can't arrange for a graphical separator in a UIDropdownMenu, can I? |
| 23:22.21 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: February 13th, 2009 13:15pm PST |
| 23:22.21 | Shiibot | Free character moves from select high population US and Latin American realms are now available. A new realm, Nesingwary (Central time zone, Emberstorm battlegroup), has been made available for eligible US PvE free moves. |
| 23:22.21 | Shiibot | These moves are scheduled to end Friday, February 20, at 12:00 PM PST provided our transfer goals are not reached prior to this time. To find out if your realm is eligible for these free moves and begin the transfer process, you can go to https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account and click on the "Free Character Move" link. |
| 23:24.05 | WobWork | oh man, where's Tekkub when you want to link something to him? =P http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/7225285.html |
| 23:24.30 | foxlit | for ident, isActive in OneRingLib.Profiles do << teehee |
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| 23:24.55 | Shirik | has he been doing that all day foxlit? |
| 23:25.05 | foxlit | no, probably not |
| 23:25.13 | mikma | he's just angry |
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| 23:26.16 | Shirik | oh I wasn't late |
| 23:26.16 | Shirik | yay |
| 23:29.48 | foxlit | # What's so funny about peace, love and understanding? |
| 23:29.58 | Shirik | none exist? |
| 23:30.02 | mikma | they all have one thing common, letter E |
| 23:30.15 | ScytheBlade1 | lyrics fail, Shirik/mikma |
| 23:31.32 | Arrowmaster | lua> os.time() |
| 23:31.32 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 1234567892 |
| 23:31.38 | Arrowmaster | its off..... |
| 23:31.47 | Shirik | ok happy epoch day now! |
| 23:32.04 | Syzgyn | yay |
| 23:32.14 | Arrowmaster | omg fireworks |
| 23:32.22 | Shirik | ya fireworks |
| 23:32.23 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:32.41 | Syzgyn | It took me a few seconds to figure out where the hell the music was coming from |
| 23:33.33 | Kalroth | lol |
| 23:33.38 | foxlit | # All thy ills shall be relieved; every human grief consoled in the order 't was received... |
| 23:33.38 | Arrowmaster | there was music? |
| 23:33.47 | Arrowmaster | my speakers are muted |
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| 23:35.57 | Shirik | I didn't get any music |
| 23:36.44 | Shirik | nice google logo |
| 23:36.45 | Shirik | lol |
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| 23:48.21 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: dear god why does your webserver have frontpage extensions installed, oh and fyi 500 Internal Server Error |
| 23:48.59 | cog|work | he knows (in the sense that it's ~midnight where he lives and I pinged him a couple hrs ago) |
| 23:49.25 | Arrowmaster | i still wanted to poke fun at the frontpage extensions though |
| 23:50.05 | cog|work | do frontpage extensions even work on apache? |
| 23:50.31 | foxlit | iirc, yes. |
| 23:50.43 | foxlit | But they break stuff like .htaccess at the same time |
| 23:50.47 | cbreak | what's that? |
| 23:51.07 | cog|work | i have a feeling it's either unintentional or related to the cause of the problem... |
| 23:51.16 | cog|work | the website runs on sputnik |
| 23:51.22 | |Jelly| | I say we just yell INCONCEIVABLE over and over again. |
| 23:51.31 | ScytheBlade1 | INCONCEIVABLE |
| 23:51.34 | cog|work | INCONCEIVABLE over and over again |
| 23:51.54 | Arrowmaster | its probably a shared host or something? and likely why it has frontpage extensions |
| 23:52.19 | cog|work | last i heard it was a VPS |
| 23:52.44 | Arrowmaster | odd |
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| 23:55.26 | Movix | hi, i do not understand why the GetWidth() method returns incorrect widths for some of my frames. they have at least a LEFT and RIGHT point set |
| 23:56.18 | Movix | spent 2 hours to understand what happens but i must miss something somewhere |
| 23:57.11 | foxlit | scale |
| 23:57.21 | Movix | hmm |
| 23:57.37 | cbreak | is it one of those text frame things? |
| 23:59.12 | Movix | no, a normal frame, i set TOPLEFT, BOTTOM and RIGHT points. the frame displays like it should, but GetLeft returns nil, GetRight returns nil, GetRect return nils and GetWidth a wrong width |
