| 00:00.08 | Tekkub | helping a friend do that G2 bird in Terokkar... |
| 00:00.08 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:00.09 | Industrial | :E |
| 00:00.20 | Tekkub | troll comes careening in with 5 things on him... /beg |
| 00:00.23 | Shirik | Tekkub: b&!! |
| 00:00.33 | Tekkub | we help him, he bows... |
| 00:00.49 | Tekkub | point at dead bird, he nods... so we help him with that too |
| 00:00.49 | Shirik | then you killed him? |
| 00:00.57 | mikma | keel keel |
| 00:01.05 | Tekkub | PvE, duh :P |
| 00:01.13 | Industrial | boo |
| 00:01.32 | Shirik | so |
| 00:01.33 | Tekkub | the bird did nearly kill his ass though :) |
| 00:01.33 | Shirik | kill kill |
| 00:01.42 | mikma | =D |
| 00:01.49 | Shirik | then again, you're alliance |
| 00:01.53 | Shirik | I expect you to be whimpy |
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| 00:02.14 | Tekkub | only alliance cause that's what my friends rolled |
| 00:02.23 | Tekkub | I'd much rather be furry, you know that |
| 00:03.54 | Iriel | Shirik: yes? |
| 00:03.58 | Tekkub | glayven... a week and I'll have all the major glyphs learned |
| 00:04.02 | Shirik | I've been thinking about aftercast |
| 00:04.11 | Shirik | And I thought I might have a way to make it work again |
| 00:04.19 | Shirik | do you have any problems with me forking your project? |
| 00:04.27 | Tekkub | fork him hard |
| 00:04.53 | Shirik | with credit of course :) |
| 00:04.58 | Iriel | Shirik: Hm, no, as long as you dont mind me transferring it to you if your solution turns out to be one I think is cool 8-) |
| 00:05.07 | Shirik | heh |
| 00:05.12 | Tekkub | you fix it, you buy it |
| 00:06.04 | Iriel | Seriously though, it needs some enthusiasm and i've been far too distracted to do it justice |
| 00:09.05 | Shirik | It's just something I randomly thought of today and I'd be curious to see if it works |
| 00:09.22 | Shirik | it does still involve some magical hook-fu so we'll see |
| 00:13.46 | mikma | now thats a cool deal? |
| 00:13.56 | mikma | you continue it, you support it? |
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| 00:28.15 | NightHawkTheSane | is there a way out of KT's room back to dragonblight? |
| 00:28.41 | End | don't think so |
| 00:29.21 | Davnel | hs |
| 00:29.29 | cbreak | portals |
| 00:29.36 | Davnel | you can't portal to dragonblight |
| 00:30.33 | cbreak | not yet |
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| 00:34.04 | Davnel | why would blizzard register both the parent unitframe and the manabar for the UNIT_DISPLAYPOWER event anyone know? |
| 00:37.39 | Tekkub | just to piss you off |
| 00:37.48 | Tekkub | what does the parent do on the event? |
| 00:37.55 | Davnel | same thing as the child |
| 00:38.04 | Industrial | I dont see that anywhere in the Player/TargetFrame lua/xml :S |
| 00:38.06 | Davnel | but the child could be caught in an onupdate |
| 00:38.12 | Davnel | its not UnitFrame.lua |
| 00:38.42 | Davnel | its not its in UnitFrame.lua |
| 00:38.46 | Davnel | there we go that reads better |
| 00:40.02 | Tekkub | they don't do the same thing |
| 00:40.07 | Tekkub | the self they pass is different |
| 00:40.26 | Davnel | the manabar passes its parent |
| 00:40.42 | Davnel | the unitframe passes itself |
| 00:41.10 | Tewan | o_o |
| 00:41.23 | Tekkub | the code I'm looking at, the bar passes itself |
| 00:41.26 | Tekkub | not it's parent |
| 00:41.35 | Tewan | gawd all I see is its, the, and pass* |
| 00:41.42 | Davnel | UnitFrame_UpdateManaType(statusbar:GetParent()); |
| 00:42.16 | Tekkub | http://gist.github.com/55731 |
| 00:43.14 | Davnel | http://gist.github.com/55732 |
| 00:43.19 | Davnel | the follow on from the call |
| 00:43.54 | Tekkub | then I dunno, ask Zooty? :P |
| 00:44.09 | Davnel | who? |
| 00:44.14 | Davnel | oh right |
| 00:44.14 | Tekkub | there's lots of little stupid things in their code |
| 00:44.52 | Davnel | yeah I'm wondering if its a left over from before they added in the new update methods, or if its there for some very odd cases |
| 00:45.34 | Tekkub | the "local arg1 = ..." kinda screws leftover code to me |
| 00:45.39 | Tekkub | *screams |
| 00:45.47 | Davnel | /pat |
| 00:46.19 | Davnel | I quite like healthbar.lua mind you |
| 00:46.32 | Davnel | saves me some code at least for testing |
| 00:47.13 | Tekkub | oUF, that is all |
| 00:48.56 | Davnel | pfft AUF (when i get it done) |
| 00:49.14 | Tekkub | could still be oUF-based :P |
| 00:49.22 | Davnel | over my dead body it will be |
| 00:49.25 | Davnel | :P |
| 00:49.34 | Tekkub | that could be arranged |
| 00:49.41 | Tekkub | IRIEL! |
| 00:49.45 | Tekkub | We need your services |
| 00:49.50 | Davnel | if I'm dead I'm not going to be doing much coding at all now am I |
| 00:50.00 | Davnel | aw can't you at least let me graduate first then get me killed? |
| 00:50.01 | Tekkub | well now that's your problem |
| 00:50.08 | Tekkub | fine |
| 00:50.12 | Davnel | yay! |
| 00:50.20 | Davnel | its only till august so its all good :P |
| 00:50.34 | Davnel | anyway the original secure handlers were murder enough imo |
| 00:50.54 | Tekkub | 2.0's secure stuff still breaks my brain |
| 00:51.04 | Tekkub | 3.0's is so much better |
| 00:51.05 | Davnel | took me a while but I can see uses for it |
| 00:51.11 | Davnel | 3.0 that is |
| 00:51.24 | Davnel | i've just given up ever working out what the hell was going on with 2.0 |
| 00:51.32 | Tekkub | I still don't know how tekPopbar for 2.0 worked |
| 00:51.37 | Tekkub | but it did |
| 00:51.44 | Davnel | though isn't it really 1.0 and 2.0 seeing as pre patch 2.0 there wasn't secure handlers |
| 00:51.58 | Davnel | thats the main thing |
| 00:52.17 | Davnel | wish I could use the "it works but I'm not sure how" excuse atm |
| 00:52.23 | Davnel | but its all about the paper work >.< |
| 00:52.27 | Iriel | Tekkub: what? |
| 00:52.36 | Tekkub | scroll up :P |
| 00:52.38 | Davnel | he doesn't want you to kill me honest |
| 00:52.58 | Tekkub | ha! no gag reflex here! |
| 00:53.04 | Tekkub | okey that's a lie, but anyway |
| 00:53.17 | Davnel | tooo much info |
| 00:53.48 | Davnel | anyway football (soccer) playing lego robots ftw |
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| 00:58.58 | Davnel | hm boo work tomorrow |
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| 01:19.38 | Dewin | wtb: music player for Windows (or accessory to same) that lets me define global hotkeys that can add/remove the currently playing song to a playlist, with support for more than one playlist at a time |
| 01:20.53 | Dewin | I want to be able to organize my library over time, so when I hear a song I can go "This is video game music", "this is upbeat", etc. |
| 01:20.54 | Corrodias | to a playlist? hmm |
| 01:20.55 | Corrodias | i don't think winamp does -that- |
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| 01:21.00 | Dewin | It doesn't |
| 01:21.22 | Dewin | Though it wouldn't take TOO much to make a plugin or external app that checks what the currently playing file is and adds/removes it to its own (set of) playlists |
| 01:21.55 | Dewin | that way I can... categorize my music library while playing wow :) |
| 01:23.23 | Dewin | really, the ability to add/remove a given tag to a song by keybinding would be sufficient, provided I can ask 'what songs have tag X?' |
| 01:26.22 | Davnel | night all |
| 01:28.07 | Dewin | Maybe I'll write something myself... hmm |
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| 01:29.06 | Dewin | Wonder how hard it is to create an overlay like what Ventrilo can do to show the action being done and what song it's being done to. |
| 01:29.14 | p3lim | does UnitRangedDamage work for wands too? |
| 01:29.55 | Dewin | they have a weapon skill, a damage rating, a speed, and occupy the ranged slot. I can't imagine it not working. |
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| 01:45.22 | vantyr-draenor | anyone here? |
| 01:45.29 | Corrodias | i |
| 01:45.32 | |Jelly| | Sure |
| 01:45.46 | vantyr-draenor | i was wondering something about an addon called gatherer |
| 01:46.31 | ScytheBlade1 | ~asktoask |
| 01:46.38 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 01:46.39 | ScytheBlade1 | NO PURL?! |
| 01:46.43 | ScytheBlade1 | There we go |
| 01:47.44 | vantyr-draenor | is there anyway i can download gatherer with all the mining veins and nodes allready on the map w/o actually having to find them? |
| 01:48.09 | ScytheBlade1 | !g gatherer database download |
| 01:48.10 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: Gatherer addon for World of Warcraft <http://www.gathereraddon.com/dl/> |
| 01:49.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Right underneath the file downloads is a bit about how to do just what you want |
| 01:49.38 | vantyr-draenor | there are 2 downloads which one do i get? |
| 01:50.04 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11707-GathererDBWoWHead.html |
| 01:51.02 | Wobin | http://animalnewyork.com/news/2009/01/antilandmine-guerrilla-ad-upda.php |
| 01:51.02 | Wobin | sneaky |
| 01:51.15 | vantyr-draenor | oh wait i get it i have to click on the picture :p |
| 01:52.00 | vantyr-draenor | thanks alot. |
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| 02:03.39 | amro | does anyone know how to sort a generic list in c#? |
| 02:04.01 | cbreak | quicksort? |
| 02:04.14 | cbreak | I am sure you can implement it if the list allows random access, removal and inserts |
| 02:04.39 | amro | no not the sorting algorithm |
| 02:04.40 | NightHawkTheSane | http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=c%23+sort+generic+list |
| 02:04.51 | amro | NightHawkTheSane: nice try, but I've done that already |
| 02:05.03 | amro | NightHawkTheSane: in fact I bet if you try you will soon /nick NightHawkTheInsane |
| 02:05.59 | cbreak | I still think it would work. Otherwise try heap sort. |
| 02:05.59 | amro | I'm asking if someone knows a way that 100% works |
| 02:06.00 | cbreak | bubble sort will work 100%... |
| 02:06.00 | amro | I can't get IComparer<T> to work |
| 02:06.00 | cbreak | but it'll be slow |
| 02:06.00 | amro | cbreak: again not the algorithm |
| 02:06.00 | cbreak | you asked for an algorithm |
| 02:06.09 | cbreak | "how to sort a generic list" |
| 02:06.15 | amro | ok |
| 02:06.36 | amro | how would I use IComparer<T> with List<T>.Sort(IComparer<T> comparer)? |
| 02:07.47 | cbreak | if you pass an instance of that type it doesn't work? |
| 02:08.09 | Wobin | http://codebetter.com/blogs/david.hayden/archive/2005/03/06/56584.aspx |
| 02:08.12 | amro | I can't because it doesn't even compile. I get an error if I implement the Compare method and an error if I don't |
| 02:08.15 | cbreak | in C++ you'd have to write your own class and then pass an instance of it as comparator. |
| 02:08.38 | cbreak | chances are you do it wrong :) |
| 02:08.48 | cbreak | unfortunately, my crystal ball is foggy |
| 02:09.00 | Wobin | answer hazy |
| 02:09.02 | Wobin | try again later |
| 02:09.25 | amro | Wobin: that won't work, I'm using IComparer<T> |
| 02:09.44 | amro | (System.Collections.Generic.IComparer versus System.Collections.IComparer) |
| 02:10.25 | amro | cbreak: yep, I do that in C++ and it compiles and it takes less than 5 minutes to do it all |
| 02:10.40 | amro | I've been at this for more than an hour and my frustration levels are through the roof |
| 02:10.50 | cbreak | well, what error do you get? |
| 02:10.52 | Wobin | http://devcenter.auburnrandall.com/Default.aspx?c=Tech&type=post&id=86 ? |
| 02:12.45 | amro | Wobin: doesn't work |
| 02:13.00 | Wobin | what error are you getting? |
| 02:13.24 | amro | maybe it's a mono bug, but it tells me IComparer<x> isn't implemented like that, and if I add the <x> it tells me it can't be explicitly implemented |
| 02:13.45 | cbreak | pastebin time :) |
| 02:14.54 | amro | will in a minute, trying one last thing to see if it works |
| 02:16.04 | cbreak | throw a chair in microsoft's general direction. |
| 02:16.30 | Adys | does anyone know why __init__ would be fired twice when I define __new__ in a metaclass? Im checking for some input and returning a subclass accordingly, the subclass' init is fired twice |
| 02:17.26 | cbreak | print out the stack traces in each call |
| 02:17.26 | cbreak | if you can get them |
| 02:17.29 | Adys | already am |
| 02:18.03 | Adys | at first i thought init was fired from the subclass, and then from the meta class |
| 02:18.09 | Adys | but they're both fired from the subclass |
| 02:18.26 | amro | alright now it's just taunting me. got it to compile, comparer getting called, but it doesn't get sorted. not even shuffled. |
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| 02:26.01 | Shirik | Okay, so my raid has been going for "The dedicated few" achievement |
| 02:26.04 | Shirik | And we are not at sapphiron |
| 02:26.06 | Shirik | now* |
| 02:26.11 | Shirik | and nobody has died on a boss fight |
| 02:26.55 | Shirik | so now what :/ |
| 02:27.15 | Shirik | do you go for the immortal or the dedicated few or both |
| 02:27.31 | AnduinLothar | both, duh |
| 02:27.49 | AnduinLothar | less people to heal :P |
| 02:27.51 | Shirik | that scares the hell out of me |
| 02:28.11 | AnduinLothar | saph is easy, just dont suck |
| 02:28.17 | AnduinLothar | and KT is even easier |
| 02:28.35 | Shirik | kt is not easy |
| 02:28.38 | AnduinLothar | only thing you have to worry about in KT is the offtank getting iceblocked |
| 02:28.39 | NightHawkTheSane | If you can make it through the rest of naxx, sapph and KT aren't that hard |
| 02:28.39 | Shirik | requires attention |
| 02:28.52 | Shirik | i'm still scared I'll screw up :P |
| 02:29.21 | amro | AnduinLothar: healers getting MC'd can screw the fight as well if the rest don't pick up quickly enough |
| 02:29.30 | Shirik | we only have 2 healers |
| 02:29.41 | Shirik | that's the worst part |
| 02:30.07 | NightHawkTheSane | meh |
| 02:30.16 | NightHawkTheSane | 2 healers is fine for those fights |
| 02:33.31 | Adys | Shirik: the dedicated few can be done in over one raid lockout |
| 02:33.37 | Adys | so go for immortal/undying |
| 02:56.16 | Shirik | Okay, done with our break |
| 02:56.19 | Shirik | we've decided to go for both |
| 02:56.24 | Shirik | wish us luck |
| 02:58.05 | Shadowed | It becomes easier really Shirik |
| 02:58.08 | Shadowed | less people = more room to spread out |
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| 03:08.53 | Shirik | sapphiron down... |
| 03:09.37 | Zyndrome | so is half the raid |
| 03:09.38 | Zyndrome | right? |
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| 03:12.00 | Shirik | nope |
| 03:12.04 | Shirik | still all alive |
| 03:13.05 | Zyndrome | Kel'Thuzad does a good job at screwing up your Immortal tries |
| 03:14.02 | Zyndrome | (like Undying lost due to iceblock ._.) |
| 03:23.22 | Shirik | Welp |
| 03:23.25 | Shirik | I'm dead :P |
| 03:23.31 | Shirik | But it's not my fault, it's the other healer's |
| 03:23.39 | Shirik | Long as it wasn't my fault I don't really care |
| 03:23.44 | Shirik | I actually died twice, so he .... yeah |
| 03:24.47 | Zyndrome | glad Im out of the healing business, as DPS is the least to blame :D |
| 03:25.38 | Zyndrome | oh well |
| 03:25.44 | Shirik | Next week! |
| 03:26.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: ice block? >< |
| 03:26.48 | Shirik | twice |
| 03:26.49 | Shirik | TWICE |
| 03:26.51 | NightHawkTheSane | ouch |
| 03:27.00 | Shirik | I can understand missing one of them |
| 03:27.03 | Shirik | that's what I was most scared of |
| 03:27.07 | Shirik | Missing it twice... |
| 03:27.42 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i got hit with two ice blocks tonight too, the other healer missed the first one, fortunately he caught the second |
| 03:29.30 | kd3 | damn it. instance server. lemme in halls of lightning |
| 03:29.59 | Zyndrome | first Immortal try, it was muppets screwing up with Sapphiron breaths ... 2nd try, too frisky warriors on Grobbulus (WW + slimes = hurrrrrr) |
| 03:30.02 | Zyndrome | :C |
| 03:30.25 | Zyndrome | to tell our story |
| 03:31.38 | Shirik | So the healers are taking all the flak tonight |
| 03:31.42 | Shirik | I screwed up shocking |
| 03:31.43 | Shirik | somehow |
| 03:31.46 | Shirik | I'm not quite sure how I did that |
| 03:31.51 | Shirik | And then the other healer screwed up the undying :P |
| 03:33.55 | Thunder_Child | anyone know of a site similar to warcrafter but that also shows white dmg? |
| 03:35.29 | Zyndrome | Tetsuo the Iron Man ... odd movie |
| 03:36.51 | Zyndrome | hahahahhaha, DRILL COCK |
| 03:36.57 | Zyndrome | odd movie indeed |
| 03:38.14 | Shirik | warcrafter sucks |
| 03:38.17 | Shirik | it says my mp5 is low |
| 03:38.25 | Shirik | What it fails to realize is my mp5 is approximately 1500 |
| 03:38.32 | Shirik | Priests don't care about while casting mp5 |
| 03:38.39 | Shirik | especially now with the cooldown on coh |
| 03:38.55 | Thunder_Child | do you know a better one then Shirik, or are you just going to bitch? |
| 03:39.03 | Shirik | Pretty much just going to bitch |
| 03:39.06 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 03:39.12 | Shirik | I generally use be.imba |
| 03:39.21 | Thunder_Child | huh? |
| 03:39.29 | Shirik | http://be.imba.hu/ |
| 03:40.53 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, doesnt work for sub 80 it seems |
| 03:40.58 | Shirik | really? |
| 03:41.11 | Thunder_Child | i tried with a 20 something |
| 03:41.17 | Thunder_Child | ya, 80 only |
| 03:51.15 | Thunder_Child | oh my, an elven bug http://www.abunawaf.com/mix/may04/herb.jpg |
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| 04:35.05 | Shirik|Ecole | whee |
| 04:35.10 | Shirik|Ecole | windows 7 has sticky notes |
| 04:35.19 | Zyndrome | eeewww |
| 04:35.44 | NightHawkTheSane | http://jamielewis.me.uk/blog/2009/02/01/if-medicine-was-taught-like-computer-science/ |
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| 04:43.37 | Shirik|Ecole | Final Year Project - Find a supervisor and spend nine months diagnosing a patient. Or you can choose to find your own patient if your supervisor agrees. Write a report on the illness and the treatment. |
| 04:43.38 | Shirik|Ecole | ha |
| 04:43.42 | Shirik|Ecole | Also, wtf @ only 3 years |
| 04:44.51 | Shirik|Ecole | Also, this man definitely needs to take a Software Engineering course, and not Computer Science, if he's that mad about it |
| 04:45.16 | Shirik|Ecole | For something fun, see http://www.aegisub.net/2008/12/if-programming-languages-were-religions.html |
| 04:52.27 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|Ecole, why are you at school at midnight? |
| 04:52.33 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm not |
| 04:52.39 | Shirik|Ecole | Just my laptop defaults to that when Shirik is taken |
| 04:52.50 | Thunder_Child | you can have more than 2 names |
| 04:53.38 | Shirik|Ecole | I have a lot of names |
| 04:53.46 | Shirik|Ecole | /msg nickserv info Shirik |
| 04:54.42 | zenzelezz | let's not go calling each other names |
| 04:55.40 | Thunder_Child | you has nick protection Shirik |
| 04:55.58 | Shirik|Ecole | I has nick protection yes |
| 04:56.08 | Thunder_Child | doesnt show anything |
| 04:56.11 | Thunder_Child | because of it |
| 04:56.31 | Thunder_Child | doesent matter anyway |
| 04:58.16 | Syzgyn | WowInsider has supposedly leaked 3.1 patch notes... |
| 04:58.24 | Shirik|Ecole | oh really, Thunder_Child? |
| 04:58.24 | kd3 | failinsider is fail |
| 04:58.31 | Shirik|Ecole | to me it shows |
| 04:58.33 | Shirik|Ecole | (23:53:33) - [notice from NickServ]: Nicks : Shirik Kimina Kimina|AFK Shirik|AFK Shirik|Nap Shirik|zZz Shirik|Food Shirik|Work |
| 04:58.33 | Shirik|Ecole | (23:53:33) - [notice from NickServ]: Nicks : Shirik|Ecole Shirik|Ghost Shirik|Telnet Shirik|Shower Shirik|Fooding Confushirik|AFK |
| 04:58.33 | Shirik|Ecole | (23:53:33) - [notice from NickServ]: Nicks : Shirik|Studying Shirik|ReallyZzZ SonicDeathMonkey Shirik|Human iShirik Shirik|Berry |
| 04:58.43 | Syzgyn | It's an amusing read atleast. |
| 04:58.47 | Thunder_Child | 20:55.22Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â notice from NickServ: Information on Shirik (account Shirik): |
| 04:58.49 | Thunder_Child | 20:55.22Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â notice from NickServ: Registered : Feb 26 22:51:22 2007 (1 year, 48 weeks, 4 days, 06:03:30 ago) |
| 04:58.51 | Thunder_Child | 20:55.22Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â notice from NickServ: Last seen : now |
| 04:58.53 | Thunder_Child | 20:55.22Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â notice from NickServ: Flags : HideMail, Private |
| 04:58.55 | Thunder_Child | 20:55.22Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â notice from NickServ: Shirik has enabled nick protection |
| 04:58.57 | Thunder_Child | 20:55.22Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â notice from NickServ: *** End of Info *** |
| 04:58.58 | Shirik|Ecole | that's wierd |
| 04:59.09 | Thunder_Child | well it's not going to hide you from you |
| 04:59.10 | Shirik|Ecole | the nick protection is just like, when someone does this |
| 04:59.12 | zenzelezz | Shirik|Ecole: you get the info because you're, well, logged in as you |
| 04:59.21 | Shirik|Ecole | !quote NICK :Shirik|AFK |
| 04:59.23 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole, nick has not said anything with your given pattern. |
| 04:59.24 | Shirik|Ecole | er |
| 04:59.37 | Shirik|Ecole | well anyway, when someone tries to use one of my nicks |
| 04:59.44 | Shirik|Ecole | it logs them out if they fail to identify in 30 seconds |
| 05:00.03 | Shirik|Ecole | that's why you occasionally see me pop over to "guest" whenver I log in from school because my school's network is shit |
| 05:00.22 | Thunder_Child | odd...schools usually have good ones |
| 05:00.42 | Shirik|Ecole | my IT is horrible |
| 05:00.50 | Shirik|Ecole | like seriously |
| 05:01.00 | Shirik|Ecole | We got like 2MB/sec on wireless today, actually |
| 05:01.14 | Shirik|Ecole | we weren't sure if this was becuase IT did something right for once, or if it's because they really screwed something up |
| 05:01.17 | Shirik|Ecole | we think it's the latter |
| 05:01.49 | zenzelezz | maybe they left the link at half duplex like our server host did |
| 05:03.25 | |pez| | Ok, here's a question for you guys, who the heck buys a gaming headsett for almost 300USD..? |
| 05:03.45 | zenzelezz | define "gaming headset" |
| 05:03.58 | |pez| | http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=420872 |
| 05:05.01 | NightHawkTheSane | the same guy that buys a $500 ethernet cable? |
| 05:05.02 | zenzelezz | I know people who say the expensive Koss/Sennheiser ones are worth the cost, but they're not "gaming" headsets |
| 05:05.23 | Arrowmaster | Shirik|Ecole: does your school have a major security hole in their central login system thats been unpatched for over a year? i doubt it so my schools IT department fails more than yours |
| 05:05.30 | |pez| | NightHawkTheSane: People who buy stuff because it's expensive? XD |
| 05:05.34 | Shirik|Ecole | lol Arrowmaster |
| 05:05.51 | |pez| | zenzelezz: well, sure, the Koss headsets are awesome and all that, but 300usd? :P |
| 05:05.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Taroven (n=chatzill@FL-ESR1-69-61-177-254.fuse.net) |
| 05:06.02 | |pez| | kOss/sennheiser* |
| 05:06.31 | Taroven | Anyone know where I can find the blizzard code for an API function? GetSpellCooldown() specifically. >.> |
| 05:06.46 | Arrowmaster | !api getspellcooldown |
| 05:06.46 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'GetSpellCooldown' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetSpellCooldown |
| 05:07.04 | Taroven | Been there, seen that. =P |
| 05:07.13 | Taroven | Trying to do a mockup function |
| 05:07.55 | Arrowmaster | the page shows quiet clearly how it works |
| 05:08.39 | Shirik|Ecole | ok I'm confused |
| 05:08.54 | Shirik|Ecole | I accidentally turned passwords back on for ssh login |
| 05:08.58 | Shirik|Ecole | And I want to turn them off again |
| 05:09.02 | Shirik|Ecole | PasswordAuthentication no |
| 05:09.03 | Shirik|Ecole | ? |
| 05:09.12 | jnwhiteh | Shirik|Ecole: did you restart the SSH daemon? |
| 05:09.16 | Shirik|Ecole | yup |
| 05:09.16 | jnwhiteh | and why were you changing that =/ |
| 05:09.19 | Shirik|Ecole | this is my server |
| 05:09.21 | Shirik|Ecole | different one |
| 05:09.22 | Zyndrome | OverridePassword |
| 05:09.23 | jnwhiteh | oh lol |
| 05:09.28 | Zyndrome | hey works in Hollywood! |
| 05:09.29 | Arrowmaster | just undo whatever you did |
| 05:09.34 | Shirik|Ecole | I did it like weeks ago :P |
| 05:09.39 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't know what I did >< |
| 05:09.46 | Arrowmaster | this is why i use etckeeper |
| 05:09.57 | jnwhiteh | idd |
| 05:10.14 | Taroven | Arrowmaster: Quite aware, been all over the API documentation lately, I'm just trying to figure out if there's a file I can hunt down with some of those API functions so I can hash up some child functions based on the original functionality. =P |
| 05:10.32 | Arrowmaster | Taroven: what are you looking for? |
| 05:11.12 | jnwhiteh | Taroven: no, they are written in C |
| 05:11.16 | jnwhiteh | and why are you implementing them? |
| 05:11.26 | Taroven | Ah, thanks jnwhiteh |
| 05:11.27 | jnwhiteh | wowbench has some dummy stubs that do well enough |
| 05:12.00 | Taroven | Helping to write a timer addon, came up with an idea to set cooldowns for spells that don't have them. |
| 05:12.20 | Arrowmaster | Shirik|Ecole: my sshd_config has '#PasswordAuthentication yes' its commented out |
| 05:12.25 | jnwhiteh | oh well then you should just write whatever behavior you want based on what the function returns |
| 05:12.29 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah I uncommented it and set to no |
| 05:12.32 | Taroven | Pretty easy to do, I just wanna make sure I'm not gonna horribly break things. =P |
| 05:12.54 | jnwhiteh | well you shouldn't replace the global function, if that's your plan |
| 05:12.57 | Shirik|Ecole | wow, now I broke it more ^_^ |
| 05:12.58 | jnwhiteh | that has taint written all over it |
| 05:13.04 | Shirik|Ecole | Now "No authentication methods available" |
| 05:13.09 | Taroven | Heck no, not replacing a global |
| 05:13.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|Ecole: what are you trying to do? |
| 05:13.22 | jnwhiteh | okay, then just write what you want :P |
| 05:13.25 | Shirik|Ecole | go back to using keys to log in |
| 05:13.28 | Arrowmaster | Shirik|Ecole: 'UsePAM yes'? |
| 05:13.33 | Shirik|Ecole | I just turned that off |
| 05:13.36 | ScytheBlade1 | pastey your sshd_config |
| 05:13.40 | Taroven | function GetAttributedCooldown(spellname or spellid) |
| 05:13.41 | Arrowmaster | turn it on |
| 05:13.59 | Taroven | (hoping that 'or' works, not much experience with setting flags like that) |
| 05:14.16 | Arrowmaster | just use your distros package manager to reinstall sshd |
| 05:14.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: that's gentoo, it could be a while ;D |
| 05:14.36 | Shirik|Ecole | ScytheBlade1: http://wowi.pastey.net/107423 |
| 05:15.06 | ScytheBlade1 | line 47 |
| 05:16.06 | Shirik|Ecole | uncomment them? |
| 05:16.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 05:16.20 | Shirik|Ecole | tried that, restarted server |
| 05:16.21 | Shirik|Ecole | still lets me in with |
| 05:16.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Just 47 |
| 05:16.23 | Shirik|Ecole | login as: mpdelbuono |
| 05:16.23 | Shirik|Ecole | Using keyboard-interactive authentication. |
| 05:16.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ssh -vvv |
| 05:16.44 | ScytheBlade1 | and pastey the spam that comes up |
| 05:16.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, pastey your ~/.ssh/config |
| 05:16.58 | ScytheBlade1 | That may be relevant |
| 05:17.03 | Shirik|Ecole | um |
| 05:17.05 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm using putty |
| 05:17.09 | Arrowmaster | are you trying to use a key or password? |
| 05:17.11 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, faiiiiiiilllllllllll |
| 05:17.12 | Shirik|Ecole | key |
| 05:17.16 | ScytheBlade1 | pageant running? |
| 05:17.28 | Shirik|Ecole | let me try to use ssh locally or something |
| 05:17.37 | Shirik|Ecole | omg spam |
| 05:17.46 | ScytheBlade1 | there you go |
| 05:18.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Do you have pageant running, with your key loaded? |
| 05:19.06 | Taroven | jnwhiteh: http://wowi.pastey.net/107424 look alright? |
| 05:19.11 | Shirik|Ecole | pageant? |
| 05:19.28 | Arrowmaster | he doesnt have agent forwarding enabled i dont think so if hes trying to use ssh on the server to itself it wouldnt even work |
| 05:19.34 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html |
| 05:19.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Same page/"product" as putty |
| 05:20.00 | Shirik|Ecole | http://shiibot.com/sshspam.txt |
| 05:20.11 | ScytheBlade1 | It keeps your key resident in memory, optionally behind a password |
| 05:20.12 | Shirik|Ecole | doing ssh -vvv localhost |
| 05:20.28 | ScytheBlade1 | debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive |
| 05:20.43 | Shirik|Ecole | yes, I need to get rid of that keyboard-interactive |
| 05:21.03 | ScytheBlade1 | It rejected your key on the server |
| 05:21.12 | ScytheBlade1 | ... because the identity didn't exist! lol |
| 05:21.16 | ScytheBlade1 | So that's WAI |
| 05:21.22 | Shirik|Ecole | well |
| 05:21.27 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't have the key on that box |
| 05:21.34 | ScytheBlade1 | right |
| 05:21.36 | ScytheBlade1 | hence the WAI |
| 05:21.40 | Shirik|Ecole | WAI? |
| 05:21.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Working As Intended |
| 05:21.50 | Shirik|Ecole | ah yes |
| 05:22.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ChallengeResponseAuthentication no |
| 05:22.28 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ is what you need |
| 05:22.33 | ScytheBlade1 | line 65 |
| 05:23.37 | Shirik|Ecole | disconnected: No supported authentication methods available :( |
| 05:23.57 | ScytheBlade1 | You have your key around? ;) |
| 05:24.00 | Shirik|Ecole | yup |
| 05:24.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Download pageant, load it up in that |
| 05:24.20 | ScytheBlade1 | And connect without a saved session to your server |
| 05:25.40 | Shirik|Ecole | hm it worked |
| 05:25.40 | ScytheBlade1 | What's your server/port? I can ssh -vvv from here rather easily |
| 05:25.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Or that |
| 05:25.48 | Shirik|Ecole | heresiarchguild.com or shiibot.com |
| 05:25.49 | Shirik|Ecole | pick one |
| 05:26.11 | ScytheBlade1 | debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey |
| 05:26.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Only one being offered now |
| 05:26.41 | Shirik|Ecole | This pagent thing is interesting |
| 05:26.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Now find me a job! |
| 05:26.56 | ScytheBlade1 | pageant is awesome |
| 05:27.08 | Arrowmaster | i need a job first |
| 05:27.10 | Shirik|Ecole | It handles my keys? |
| 05:27.13 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 05:27.35 | ScytheBlade1 | And it interfaces with both putty and winscp |
| 05:27.51 | ScytheBlade1 | So if you connect with either, if it's running, it'll offer your key up for you, no extra hassle needd |
| 05:27.54 | ScytheBlade1 | *needed |
| 05:28.14 | Shirik|Ecole | something else has bothered me for a while |
| 05:28.17 | Shirik|Ecole | though I've been ignoring it |
| 05:28.21 | Shirik|Ecole | check out what happens when I log in |
| 05:28.52 | Shirik|Ecole | It says "last login" twice: http://wowi.pastey.net/107425 |
| 05:29.14 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah. One for a local login, one for a remote login |
| 05:30.08 | Shirik|Ecole | ha |
| 05:30.10 | Shirik|Ecole | I love fortune |
| 05:30.12 | Shirik|Ecole | Lisp Users: |
| 05:30.12 | Shirik|Ecole | Due to the holiday next Monday, there will be no garbage collection. |
| 05:30.18 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:30.22 | ScytheBlade1 | that's terrible |
| 05:38.28 | Tekkub | "Exotic pets can no longer be dodged or parried." |
| 05:38.34 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:38.37 | Tekkub | now, I know they mean their attacks... |
| 05:38.54 | Tekkub | but I keep seeing hunters throwing their pets and them being parried |
| 05:39.03 | Tekkub | No longer a problem! |
| 05:45.26 | |pez| | I should probably make use of my exotic pet talent. :P |
| 05:45.32 | |pez| | I like my lynx though |
| 05:57.06 | Taroven | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/107426 - attempt to index global 'config'? >.< |
| 05:57.22 | Taroven | (It exists, promise) |
| 05:59.07 | Thunder_Child | lies, all lies |
| 05:59.19 | Thunder_Child | just like ScytheBlade1 |
| 06:01.12 | Pizik_afk | what version is wow on atm? 3.0.8 (9464) ? |
| 06:01.31 | Taroven | 9506 |
| 06:01.51 | Pizik_afk | ahhh |
| 06:01.55 | Pizik_afk | thanks |
| 06:02.04 | Taroven | No prob |
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| 06:04.37 | Pizik_afk | I guess that means they implemented some nice bug in the 3.0.8 patch |
| 06:04.49 | Taroven | Whatcha mean? |
| 06:06.03 | Pizik_afk | well, unusual for them to have 2 different patches released for the same version, unless they forgot something or added something that was broken |
| 06:06.16 | Taroven | ah |
| 06:06.23 | Taroven | 3.0.8 was the initial release |
| 06:06.34 | Arrowmaster | the first 3.0.8 had a bunch of bugs |
| 06:06.36 | Taroven | 3.0.8a is a bugfix, mainly some nasty warlock issues |
| 06:06.47 | Taroven | And a bunch of other crap |
| 06:07.25 | Pizik_afk | kk, kinda what I was expecting, haven't actually played on bliz since patching 3.0.8 |
| 06:07.34 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> you can't add shoulder enchants to heirloom items, can you.. |
| 06:08.24 | Taroven | Believe there's one or two possible |
| 06:08.29 | Taroven | some 19 twink got the 40 AP 15 resil WG enchant |
| 06:08.37 | Taroven | Don't remember the armory for the life of me though. |
| 06:09.42 | Pizik_afk | There was a bug that allowed some people to apply shoulder enchants through "Will not be traded" when TBC was released I think |
| 06:11.07 | Taroven | AH, found out what I was looking for |
| 06:11.24 | Taroven | If you have exalted Zandalar Tribe rep, you can put the ZG enchants on heirloom shoulders |
| 06:14.45 | Taroven | doh, was wrong |
| 06:14.50 | Corrodias | skype appears to offer free internet audio conference service. why do people usually use TS or Ventrilo instead? |
| 06:14.52 | Taroven | Blizz fixed that too. >.< |
| 06:15.11 | Taroven | TS and Vent are a little easier to conference with? *shrug* |
| 06:15.25 | Corrodias | yes, but you have to pay for a host. or host it yourself. |
| 06:15.46 | Taroven | Which is a static IP with a unique port and multiple channels. |
| 06:15.48 | Corrodias | a -little- convenience isn't worth money to gamers |
| 06:15.59 | Taroven | You'd be amazed. =P |
| 06:16.11 | Corrodias | no, people who pay real money to get skins for their playstation 3 UI don't count |
| 06:17.30 | Tekkub | Man, why am I wasting my time with addons |
| 06:17.30 | Tekkub | I wish I had artistic skills |
| 06:17.32 | Tekkub | I could make an assload on PS3 skins |
| 06:17.36 | Taroven | XD |
| 06:17.54 | Tekkub | there are a few people out there that own a PS3, right? |
| 06:18.11 | Corrodias | i've heard of them |
| 06:18.14 | Tekkub | I've never seen one myself, but I like to believe they exist |
| 06:19.09 | Tekkub | or is it always 6 degrees of separation? Everyone knows someone that owns a PS3 by relation, but there is at least 6 steps between |
| 06:19.21 | Tekkub | no one is directly related to them :) |
| 06:19.35 | Pizik_afk | Aye, means they sold 2 ;op |
| 06:20.54 | Thunder_Child | grrr.... |
| 06:20.55 | Thunder_Child | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220719/ |
| 06:20.59 | Thunder_Child | bah |
| 06:21.07 | Thunder_Child | Installed Version: |
| 06:21.09 | Thunder_Child | 2009/01/04 |
| 06:21.11 | Thunder_Child | Author(s): |
| 06:21.13 | Thunder_Child | Kaelten Ammo Antiarc Nevcairiel Nargiddley Mikk |
| 06:21.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Thunder_Child (n=TC@cpe-76-169-229-41.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 06:21.37 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 06:21.38 | purl | Thunder_Child: FAIL! |
| 06:21.41 | Mikk | whut |
| 06:21.49 | Mikk | that looks like the ace3 author list |
| 06:21.53 | Thunder_Child | it is |
| 06:22.13 | Thunder_Child | i was trying to point out that installed is 04 but newest is 06 |
| 06:22.19 | Thunder_Child | 4th 6th* |
| 06:22.27 | Thunder_Child | damn thing wont update peroperly |
| 06:22.38 | Thunder_Child | properly* |
| 06:23.28 | Thunder_Child | esp since it seem that none of my ace addons want to show up in game |
| 06:23.50 | Mikk | Corrodias: last time i checked, skype had max ~5 people per conference? |
| 06:24.00 | Corrodias | 25 now, but that's a good point |
| 06:26.00 | Mikk | yeah muting can be hotkeyed. PTT cannot. |
| 06:26.18 | Corrodias | now why the hell would someone design it that way |
| 06:27.30 | End | because it's a "phone call" |
| 06:29.25 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, have you been messing around with your other addons? |
| 06:29.44 | ckknight | not to my knowledge |
| 06:30.22 | Thunder_Child | all at once, pitbull, parrot, fubar, and chinchila stoped working |
| 06:30.37 | Arrowmaster | because rock is broken |
| 06:30.51 | Thunder_Child | well that makes sence then |
| 06:30.55 | Thunder_Child | sense* |
| 06:31.12 | Thunder_Child | i can has working rock? |
| 06:33.26 | Thunder_Child | nvm found it....i guess |
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| 07:09.57 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.0.x ToC: 30000 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | âOne of the oldest human needs is having someone to wonder where you are when you donât come home at night. â Margaret Mead |
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| 07:13.00 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|AFK] by ChanServ |
| 07:13.57 | Cairenn | hi |
| 07:13.57 | Shirik|AFK | go to sleep! |
| 07:14.02 | Cairenn | why? |
| 07:15.34 | Shirik|AFK | !g bugcheck 0xea |
| 07:15.35 | batbot | Shirik|AFK: Bug Check 0xEA: THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms797149.aspx> |
| 07:16.58 | ScytheBlade1 | You should be growling at your driver |
| 07:17.37 | Shirik|AFK | true |
| 07:17.47 | Shirik|AFK | but I wish there was an easier way of identifying which driver is causing the problem |
| 07:17.57 | Shirik|AFK | oh nice |
| 07:17.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Check your logs and read what the BSOD says? |
| 07:18.08 | Shirik|AFK | The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x000000ea (0xfffffa8006314620, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: . |
| 07:18.10 | Shirik|AFK | That's all it says |
| 07:18.22 | Shirik|AFK | Here's the best part: MSDN says parameter 3 is a pointer to the driver name |
| 07:18.26 | ScytheBlade1 | You have a minidump then! |
| 07:18.28 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:18.29 | Shirik|AFK | Take a look at pointer 3 |
| 07:18.32 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 07:18.44 | ScytheBlade1 | You get to use some windbg to see what broke, it looks like |
| 07:18.59 | Shirik|AFK | I should get a full dump first though |
| 07:19.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Though that could be a problem with win7, dunno if they have debugging symbols up for win7 |
| 07:19.13 | Thunder_Child | stop breaking irc Cairenn |
| 07:19.28 | Shirik|AFK | I can get a fully checked version ScytheBlade1 :P |
| 07:19.44 | Shirik|AFK | Unlike you poor minions, I have a wide array of windows 7 options! |
| 07:19.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I do too |
| 07:20.23 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, irc crashed when you changed the topic |
| 07:20.25 | Shirik|AFK | Windows 7 Beta (x64) - DVD (English) |
| 07:20.33 | Shirik|AFK | Windows 7 Beta Checked Build (x64) - DVD (English) |
| 07:20.36 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 07:20.38 | Cairenn | didn't for me |
| 07:20.42 | Shirik|AFK | Windows 7 Beta Debugging Symbols (x64) - (English) |
| 07:20.49 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
| 07:20.53 | Shirik|AFK | Windows 7 Beta Debugging Symbols Checked Build (x64) - (English) |
| 07:21.11 | Shirik|AFK | :P |
| 07:21.57 | Shirik|AFK | It's just annoying because my computer turns onn in my backpack |
| 07:23.09 | Shirik|AFK | Fortunately, it's extremely reproducable |
| 07:23.20 | Shirik|AFK | Shut my screen, computer goes into sleep, 2 minutes later it reboots after BSOD |
| 07:24.52 | Shirik|AFK | hm, nope, that was a full dump, ScytheBlade1 |
| 07:25.28 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 07:25.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Even better! |
| 07:28.42 | Shirik|AFK | ScytheBlade1, maybe you know; there's some program that you can feed a dump into |
| 07:28.46 | Shirik|AFK | I forgot what it's called, do you know? |
| 07:29.24 | ScytheBlade1 | windbg |
| 07:29.35 | ScytheBlade1 | 02:18 < ScytheBlade1> You get to use some windbg to see what broke, it looks like |
| 07:29.52 | Shirik|AFK | oh, heh |
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| 07:33.43 | Shirik|AFK | The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x000000ea (0xfffffa8006314620, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: . |
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| 07:33.45 | Shirik|AFK | YOU LIE |
| 07:33.47 | Shirik|AFK | THERE IS NOTHING THERE |
| 07:35.51 | Wobin | World Maths Day registrations are now live =P |
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| 07:45.27 | |pez| | Frosthide or Icescale leg armor for BM specced hunter? |
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| 07:47.01 | Shirik|Ecole | my computer |
| 07:47.05 | Shirik|Ecole | is cheating |
| 07:47.13 | Shirik|Ecole | however I'm fairly certaiin it's my graphics card that's dying |
| 07:48.36 | Shirik|Ecole | I blame ScytheBlade1 |
| 07:49.59 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:50.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Why? |
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| 07:50.34 | Shirik|Ecole | you haxeed my vompuier and installed falty driver |
| 07:50.46 | Shirik|Ecole | omg typing sideways is hard |
| 07:51.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:53.23 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|Ecole, please stop having more problems than everyone else put together |
| 07:53.32 | Shirik|Ecole | :( |
| 07:53.54 | Shirik|Ecole | Apparently ATI makes a Windows 7 driver though |
| 07:53.56 | Shirik|Ecole | installing it now |
| 07:54.02 | Shirik|Ecole | I was using the Microsoft driver before |
| 07:54.28 | Shirik|Ecole | which, I must say, worked rather well |
| 07:55.45 | Thunder_Child | as usual nvidia > ati |
| 07:56.28 | Shirik|Ecole | now, let us see the results! |
| 07:56.31 | Shirik|Ecole | brb |
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| 08:03.20 | Shirik|AFK | I give up |
| 08:03.26 | Shirik|AFK | I have no idea what's causing it |
| 08:08.15 | Shirik|AFK | night |
| 08:17.45 | Thunder_Child | "Error! Expected item [Canvas Pants] in bag 1 slot 13, but found [Canvas Pants]" |
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| 08:24.09 | Tekkub | pant ruin everything |
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| 08:50.26 | helpguys | guys, can anyone help me, i know this is probably my stupid mastike. but whenever i try and place the searchers for dis/enchant, it says enchantrix not found. but i have it installed. and it works |
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| 08:52.01 | Thunder_Child | enchantrix is part of auctioneer right? |
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| 08:53.10 | Thunder_Child | try #norganna |
| 08:53.20 | helpguys | yh |
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| 11:37.55 | mikma | jebus christ |
| 11:37.57 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12392-LocoCombatRatings.html |
| 11:38.10 | mikma | si thats why he rolled a warrior.. and sucks at it |
| 11:38.21 | mikma | "hey i pull with taunt" |
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| 11:50.47 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12382-AutoGratzer4Juju.html |
| 11:51.04 | mikma | THATS THE GREATEST ADDON EVER! |
| 11:51.51 | haste | is it the annually "mikma checks the new add-ons sections for stuff to flame" awards now? |
| 11:53.18 | mikma | yes! |
| 11:53.40 | mikma | i didnt flame the addons yet =) |
| 11:54.55 | haste | Then I would like to put a vote on the leveling reminder |
| 11:55.42 | mikma | that was funny, didnt check it that long so i dont know why it reminds stuff |
| 11:56.04 | mikma | but the autogratzer has some funky code in it! |
| 11:56.10 | mikma | check the comments |
| 11:57.09 | haste | I've seen that comment actually |
| 11:57.36 | mikma | you should add stuff like that in ouf |
| 11:57.52 | mikma | random messages that praise you |
| 11:58.31 | mikma | like 1-7 days in random that says "vote haste for (random)" in guildchat |
| 11:59.11 | haste | that reminds me! |
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| 11:59.36 | haste | I snickered a little when a NPC said: We must make haste, Haste! yesterday d: |
| 11:59.57 | mikma | hehe |
| 12:00.30 | haste | I felt so easily entertained at that point |
| 12:00.49 | mikma | now theres an idea, when you see "haste" text in game, hilight it if ouf is installed |
| 12:01.02 | haste | no D: |
| 12:01.33 | mikma | then the random "vote haste for ... " |
| 12:02.46 | haste | I'm bored, but not that bored |
| 12:03.50 | mikma | but you must have a small god-complex, so, add it! |
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| 12:05.09 | Tifi | what makes an addon "popular" on wowi? (this little star next to the name) |
| 12:05.18 | haste | 800+ downloads or so :p |
| 12:05.33 | haste | it goes away later on |
| 12:05.40 | haste | I've ever understood |
| 12:06.04 | Tifi | heh ok thx |
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| 12:06.40 | haste | actually, seems like 800+ is the only requirement |
| 12:06.43 | haste | and it stays now |
| 12:06.53 | haste | or maybe it's favorites |
| 12:07.28 | haste | seems like it is downloads |
| 12:09.18 | Tifi | 800+ sounds right |
| 12:19.13 | mikma | cairenn: we need a paage where we can flame addons that has been released in a week |
| 12:28.15 | Tifi | is there an event that fires when the cast times change because of heroism/bloodlust? |
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| 12:31.45 | haste | most likely as the attack speed changes |
| 12:32.56 | Tifi | true |
| 12:32.59 | Tifi | thanks |
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| 12:49.17 | Lothaer | hey guys |
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| 12:49.43 | Lothaer | whats everyone up 2? |
| 12:50.14 | mikma | im down atm |
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| 13:10.37 | Lothaer | awesome |
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| 13:20.07 | Cide | hi |
| 13:29.03 | Lothaer | sup cide |
| 13:29.15 | Cide | no |
| 13:30.35 | Lothaer | samn blizz make the boats go faster |
| 13:43.18 | Lothaer | anyone here use a mod named ComeHere? |
| 13:46.32 | mikma | ewwww |
| 13:47.20 | mikma | name tells me it yells "come here" (might also play mortal kombat sound) when you use dk death grip? |
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| 14:09.03 | Lothaer | yup |
| 14:09.10 | Lothaer | there are others but mine was the first |
| 14:09.31 | p3lim^ | I need some way to exclude players using dualwield |
| 14:09.37 | Lothaer | i just updated it for Female DKs but editing the pitch of a couple of the sounds |
| 14:09.46 | p3lim^ | tried to fiddle with UnitDamage() but im stuck |
| 14:12.16 | Lothaer | why are you trying to filter duel weilders? |
| 14:12.37 | Lothaer | mikma: ill assume your not a fan of Mortal Kombat |
| 14:12.48 | p3lim^ | making an attackspeed bar |
| 14:13.05 | Lothaer | so u can see the time between attacks? |
| 14:13.09 | p3lim^ | yeah |
| 14:13.20 | p3lim^ | dw users has no need for it |
| 14:13.38 | Lothaer | have a look at http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/ld50_abar.aspx might help ya |
| 14:14.25 | p3lim^ | wow that one was detailed! |
| 14:15.32 | p3lim^ | but its not updated since wrath release :s |
| 14:17.10 | Lothaer | it still works |
| 14:18.09 | Lothaer | might still help you |
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| 15:23.34 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23664 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23665 |
| 15:23.38 | Adys | where were those two from? |
| 15:25.26 | sacarasc | Looks like Naxx |
| 15:26.55 | Lothaer | various trash in lvl 60 Naxx |
| 15:27.06 | Lothaer | Requires Level 60 |
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| 15:39.56 | Wobin | http://io9.com/5136738/create-your-own-original-star-trek-story |
| 15:48.26 | Industrial | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3363622601120086775 |
| 15:48.29 | Industrial | facepalm |
| 15:53.04 | Lothaer | ROFLMAO |
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| 16:31.54 | Shirik|Ecole | Isn't killing init a trigger for a kernel panic? |
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| 16:59.26 | Fisker- | i never panic Shirik |
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| 17:24.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|Ecole: it depends |
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| 18:09.57 | Vangual | omfg, lost immortal on the literally last second by a oneshot -.- |
| 18:10.08 | Vangual | i need to kill someone |
| 18:11.12 | zenzelezz | we were looking decent for a while, but two priests went and got zapped on Thaddius |
| 18:12.38 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctaszjeaDK0 |
| 18:12.45 | Syzgyn | We always have issues with people dying to 4H |
| 18:13.35 | Vangual | we did the risky fights at the start this time, went so well, qq |
| 18:13.48 | Syzgyn | Yeah, abom and DK wings first for sure |
| 18:14.05 | zenzelezz | we always do the tough ones first |
| 18:14.28 | zenzelezz | we even had our enhancement shaman go ranged on Patchwerk and still made the 3-minute achievement |
| 18:14.36 | Syzgyn | why? |
| 18:14.40 | zenzelezz | cause he's somehow a magnet to dying on Patchwerk |
| 18:14.50 | Syzgyn | so he doesnt watch his threat :P |
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| 18:46.32 | Fisker- | we did the 4 horsemen achievement without any dead |
| 18:46.52 | Fisker- | but if it weren't for that pesky little frozen iceblock on the offtank we would've gotten it there |
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| 18:47.02 | Fisker- | on kel'thuzad of course |
| 18:47.06 | Fisker- | next week we did it though |
| 18:47.13 | Fisker- | Had the maintank go tank the adds instead |
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| 18:51.31 | Olorin` | am i right in assuming that any event that calls a function defined in your addon requires the function to be declared globally unless the function is written within the setscript function? |
| 18:52.05 | Olorin` | setscript statement rather* |
| 18:52.13 | Davnel | lo all |
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| 18:55.56 | Shirik|Ecole | so bit.band() is 32-bit in WoW :( |
| 18:56.09 | Shirik|Ecole | How have people been doing bit masks with unit GUIDs? |
| 18:58.43 | zenzelezz | substringing before bit.banding? |
| 18:59.15 | Adys | i totally didnt read "bit banding" |
| 19:00.12 | Syzgyn | you can do bitwise stuff with the flags straight out of the combat log event |
| 19:00.16 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: its not 32bit, but guids are too large |
| 19:00.25 | Shirik|Ecole | ah I thought it came in as a number |
| 19:00.26 | Shirik|Ecole | not a string |
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| 19:00.47 | Arrowmaster | if you convert a guid to a number it becomes a float |
| 19:01.03 | Arrowmaster | since its larger than 52bit |
| 19:01.14 | Shirik|Ecole | Well, all numbers in lua are doubles :P |
| 19:01.37 | Syzgyn | what would you need to do bitwise stuff with the GUID's anyway? |
| 19:01.41 | nevcairiel | its too big to be stored accurately, though |
| 19:01.52 | Shirik|Ecole | To determine if it's a pet, npc, or player |
| 19:02.12 | Arrowmaster | you can do that with just sub |
| 19:02.15 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah |
| 19:02.19 | Shirik|Ecole | I didn't realize they were strings, as I said |
| 19:02.26 | Syzgyn | from the combatlog though, you use the flags not the ID |
| 19:02.43 | Shirik|Ecole | ... huh? |
| 19:03.18 | Syzgyn | http://www.wowwiki.com/UnitFlag |
| 19:05.23 | Shirik|Ecole | Syzgyn, no offense |
| 19:05.41 | Shirik|Ecole | That page is very uninformative to anyone who has no idea what it's for |
| 19:05.59 | Shirik|Ecole | If I wanted to use it as a reference, it would be perfect. For anyone else, it's essentially worthless |
| 19:06.19 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 19:06.25 | Shirik|Ecole | Anyway, I'll go back to what Arrowmaster said, string.sub is perfect for this situation |
| 19:06.44 | Adys | oh wow |
| 19:06.51 | Adys | that page is actually awesome :P |
| 19:07.06 | Syzgyn | see, Adys appreciates me! :P |
| 19:07.07 | mikma | http://www.saasta.fi/saasta/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/handegg.jpg |
| 19:07.13 | Shirik|Ecole | Adys also understands how the combat log works |
| 19:07.25 | Syzgyn | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_COMBAT_LOG_EVENT |
| 19:07.26 | Syzgyn | :P |
| 19:07.31 | Shirik|Ecole | I was there before you sent me your link |
| 19:07.40 | Syzgyn | the 5th and 8th params |
| 19:07.40 | Adys | what are you looking for Shirik ? havent followed |
| 19:07.41 | Shirik|Ecole | However if someone were to come up to you and say "Hey, how do I do this" and you threw down that link |
| 19:07.46 | Shirik|Ecole | they'd pretty much be "wtf is this" |
| 19:07.57 | Syzgyn | yea, sorry, I was on the phone at the same time |
| 19:08.20 | Syzgyn | you can do bit.band with the flags from the event and one of those masks |
| 19:08.29 | Shirik|Ecole | ok now I see |
| 19:08.37 | Shirik|Ecole | You should put an introduction on that page |
| 19:08.45 | Syzgyn | bit.band(sourceFlags, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_PET) == COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_PET) |
| 19:08.50 | Syzgyn | would be true if it was a pet |
| 19:09.07 | Syzgyn | and so on |
| 19:10.13 | Shirik|Ecole | the new combat log is interesting (new is somewhat relative) |
| 19:10.21 | Syzgyn | yus |
| 19:10.36 | Shirik|Ecole | and who the heck is DrKnight |
| 19:10.48 | DrKnight | I'm here to help you, Shirik|Ecole |
| 19:10.48 | Syzgyn | eh? |
| 19:10.52 | DrKnight | tell me your problems |
| 19:11.07 | Syzgyn | That would take a while for shirik :P |
| 19:11.20 | zenzelezz | DrKnight does seem hard to decrypt |
| 19:11.33 | Shirik|Ecole | Maybe he used RSA encryption |
| 19:11.46 | DrKnight | maybe your mom used RSA encryption |
| 19:11.48 | DrKnight | last night |
| 19:11.50 | DrKnight | in bed |
| 19:11.56 | DrKnight | ...burn |
| 19:12.00 | Seerah | .... |
| 19:12.11 | DrKnight | oh yea, baby, 128-bit! |
| 19:12.16 | DrKnight | oh, Oh, OH! |
| 19:12.24 | Tekkub | s/DrK/ckk/ |
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| 19:12.31 | Shirik|Ecole | yes I figured it out after /whois Tekkub :P |
| 19:12.36 | DrKnight | lol |
| 19:12.39 | Shirik|Ecole | he is not as sneaky as he thinks |
| 19:12.41 | NightHawkTheSane | that was the ONLY clue? |
| 19:12.45 | Shirik|Ecole | yes >.> |
| 19:12.50 | Tekkub | :P |
| 19:12.54 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 19:13.32 | Tekkub | He's a real doctor! |
| 19:13.37 | Tekkub | From america! |
| 19:13.39 | Tekkub | HOT! |
| 19:13.41 | Tekkub | DICKINGS! |
| 19:13.47 | Seerah | lol |
| 19:14.38 | DrKnight | I am a man of honor |
| 19:14.41 | DrKnight | I am a man of duty |
| 19:15.06 | DrKnight | I'm a real doctor |
| 19:15.11 | Shirik|Ecole | Hickory smoked! |
| 19:15.26 | DrKnight | I'm a dashing special agent with a Ph.D. in kicking your ass! |
| 19:15.30 | Seerah | BACON! |
| 19:15.36 | Shirik|Ecole | mmm bacon |
| 19:16.05 | Shirik|Ecole | oh |
| 19:16.12 | Dewin | "Where is that coming from?!" |
| 19:16.13 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.28 | Shirik|Ecole | bear bacon is good too |
| 19:16.31 | Shirik|Ecole | we can chop up Tekkub |
| 19:16.51 | Tekkub | sweet like bear meat |
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| 19:25.57 | mikma | hehehe kevin bacon |
| 19:29.05 | Shirik|Ecole | Syzgyn, thanks btw |
| 19:29.17 | Syzgyn | no prob |
| 19:29.23 | Shirik|Ecole | that's helpful now that I know what it actually is; I would still advise putting an introduction on it |
| 19:29.32 | Shirik|Ecole | of course, a lot of wowwiki's pages are like that so.. |
| 19:30.15 | Syzgyn | it's a wiki, do it yourself :P |
| 19:30.24 | Shirik|Ecole | I will when I'm done with this :P |
| 19:30.28 | Syzgyn | hehe |
| 19:30.33 | Shirik|Ecole | But my wiki name is ugly |
| 19:30.38 | mikma | shirik|ecole: you poop |
| 19:30.46 | Shirik|Ecole | ~kick mikma |
| 19:30.47 | purl | ACTION kicks mikma |
| 19:30.49 | Seerah | everybody poops! |
| 19:31.31 | Seerah | http://www.amazon.com/Everyone-Poops-My-Body-Science/dp/192913214X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233516673&sr=8-1 |
| 19:31.40 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 19:32.59 | Seerah | didn't you know, zenzelezz? :P |
| 19:33.15 | DrKnight | Nobody poops but you |
| 19:34.10 | Seerah | and you call yourself a doctor :P |
| 19:34.23 | DrKnight | that poop is the evil coming out of you. |
| 19:35.03 | mikma | http://9.media.tumblr.com/SqHZoTWKZj8bscaexWZDoUGlo1_400.png |
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| 19:36.24 | Syzgyn | that's win. |
| 19:36.53 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: nice |
| 19:37.17 | NightHawkTheSane | I like shirt.woot's "Not to be used as pants." |
| 19:37.27 | Seerah | lol |
| 19:39.37 | Shirik|Ecole | Well we all know Seerah is filled with evil |
| 19:39.43 | Seerah | :( |
| 19:40.02 | Shirik|Ecole | She's female and a gnome; that is a very dangerous combination |
| 19:41.29 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 19:43.31 | Adys | like there isnt enough poop jokes in wow |
| 19:44.12 | Davnel | female gnomes? |
| 19:45.31 | DrKnight | female gnomes have the clap |
| 19:46.02 | Seerah | ? |
| 19:46.33 | mikma | one hand clap? |
| 19:47.24 | Duman | o.O |
| 19:52.23 | Industrial | say wat |
| 19:52.49 | Industrial | DrKnight: who are you, and why do you have ops |
| 19:52.53 | DrKnight | the "Burning Crusade" isn't just an expansion pack |
| 19:53.03 | DrKnight | Industrial: oh, I'm just the doctor |
| 19:53.05 | DrKnight | don't worry about me |
| 20:05.29 | Shirik|Ecole | No sorting algorithm has better worst-case than O(n) right? |
| 20:06.41 | krka | correct |
| 20:06.49 | krka | which is kind of obvious |
| 20:07.02 | Shirik|Ecole | I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something stupid |
| 20:07.13 | nevcairiel | Which algorithm even gets to O(n) |
| 20:07.14 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 20:07.19 | nevcairiel | in worst-case |
| 20:07.20 | Iriel | Actually, could a sorting algorithm have better BEST case than O(n) ? |
| 20:07.22 | Shirik|Ecole | Well that wasn't really the question ;) |
| 20:07.24 | krka | depends on how you define it i guess, but in general you atleast have to look at all the inputs |
| 20:07.26 | Iriel | you have to look at each entry once |
| 20:07.52 | krka | nevcairiel: radix sort, if the values are all integers in a specific range |
| 20:07.57 | Shirik|Ecole | The reason I asked was because I have an already-sorted table, and was trying to decide between iterating over the table and inserting in the right place or inserting at the end and then sorting |
| 20:08.10 | Davnel | insert via iteration |
| 20:08.13 | krka | there probably are more cases where you can reach O(n) |
| 20:08.14 | Iriel | binary search to find the right insertion and insert |
| 20:08.14 | Davnel | if its already sorted |
| 20:08.38 | Shirik|Ecole | oh Iriel wins with O(logn) |
| 20:08.54 | krka | insert isn't O(logn) for lua arrays |
| 20:09.02 | Shirik|Ecole | but finding the right location is |
| 20:09.05 | krka | yes |
| 20:09.08 | krka | so O(logn + n) |
| 20:09.09 | Iriel | if you're inserting many values, sort those first, and then do a merge |
| 20:09.13 | krka | which is still O(n) |
| 20:09.19 | Iriel | (obviously that has memory implications) |
| 20:09.27 | Shirik|Ecole | nah I should only be adding one at a time |
| 20:09.36 | krka | you could use a tree instead of a list |
| 20:09.43 | krka | that would improve insert complexity |
| 20:11.05 | krka | java TreeMap ftw |
| 20:11.17 | nevcairiel | trees beat the hell out of lists anyway |
| 20:11.25 | kd3 | ^ |
| 20:11.26 | nevcairiel | lua isnt perfect for that, though |
| 20:11.33 | Shirik|Ecole | I really wish I could use a linked list, really |
| 20:11.47 | krka | you can implement binary trees as flat lua arrays |
| 20:11.50 | nevcairiel | inserting in linked lists is so easy, yes :P |
| 20:11.58 | Shirik|Ecole | well, that's not the real reason |
| 20:12.02 | Davnel | easy enough when you know the location |
| 20:12.03 | Shirik|Ecole | the real reason would be because it's moving |
| 20:12.06 | krka | but lookups are painful for linked lists |
| 20:12.10 | Shirik|Ecole | I keep removing from the first element |
| 20:12.16 | Shirik|Ecole | it's a queue basically |
| 20:12.20 | krka | do you want a heap then |
| 20:12.21 | kd3 | ...so use a queue? |
| 20:12.28 | Shirik|Ecole | in Lua? |
| 20:12.49 | nevcairiel | change language, imho |
| 20:12.50 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 20:12.53 | krka | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heap_(data_structure) |
| 20:13.01 | krka | i have actually an implemention of heaps in lua somewhere |
| 20:13.06 | Olorin` | oh goody its snowing in the uk, country that doesnt own a single snow plow :/ |
| 20:13.09 | krka | i needed it for path finding in autotravel |
| 20:13.20 | krka | the operations it has: |
| 20:13.24 | Shirik|Ecole | well I'm not this worried about complexity >< |
| 20:13.27 | krka | - get smallest element O(1) |
| 20:13.32 | krka | - insert O(logn) |
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| 20:13.58 | Shirik|Ecole | In all honesty I'll probably just use the O(n) option of iterating over the list and inserting there, because it shouldn't get too large unless there's something really wrong |
| 20:14.23 | Shirik|Ecole | The added complexity of code does not outweigh the speed benefits |
| 20:15.48 | krka | http://pastey.net/107455 |
| 20:15.50 | krka | there you go |
| 20:15.54 | krka | the code is simple |
| 20:16.12 | Shirik|Ecole | you just have this floating around? o.o |
| 20:16.17 | DrKnight | there are O(1) sorting algorthms: e.g. step 1. see if it's sorted, if so, exit, otherwise, loop forever |
| 20:16.28 | DrKnight | also, O(?): randomize, check if sorted, repeat until finished. |
| 20:16.31 | krka | Shirik|Ecole: yes, i implemented it for autotravel ages ago |
| 20:16.37 | krka | bogosort ftl |
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| 20:17.07 | Shirik|Ecole | isn't that best case O(n)? Since you have to move everything |
| 20:17.36 | Shirik|Ecole | btw, DrKnight, average complexity is O(n*n!) |
| 20:17.43 | DrKnight | :P |
| 20:17.56 | Cide | hi |
| 20:18.00 | krka | worst case is infinite |
| 20:18.04 | Thunder_Child | low |
| 20:18.05 | DrKnight | hey cide |
| 20:18.06 | Iriel | The now-retired timer code in the secure handlers was a heap too |
| 20:18.22 | krka | weird, i never use my "lessthan" parameter |
| 20:19.21 | krka | hmm sorry btw, getting the minimum element is O(logn) |
| 20:19.34 | krka | _peeking_ the minimum is O(1) |
| 20:19.48 | krka | since getting also restructures it |
| 20:25.01 | Shirik|Ecole | heh, krka |
| 20:25.08 | Shirik|Ecole | I went to the wikipedia article on bogosort |
| 20:25.14 | Shirik|Ecole | it has some... really strange statements |
| 20:25.25 | Shirik|Ecole | I especially like this: "Note, however, that even here there is no free lunch -- while this algorithm is O(n) in time, permuting the list requires that we consume O(n log n) bits of quantum randomness. It also assumes that destroying the universe is O(n) in operation." |
| 20:28.49 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 20:29.43 | kd3 | har |
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| 21:01.39 | Shirik|Ecole | jnwhiteh: ping |
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| 21:13.41 | Olorin` | I have an addon that checks to see if locs are reported after changing zone, using event ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA, but sometimes the locs are availiable in the new zone but not at the very time the event triggers, can anyone suggest an alternative event that would be more reliable, i'd rather not have to put in an delay timer if possible |
| 21:15.46 | Shirik|Ecole | You may need to update the map |
| 21:16.03 | Iriel | You could also try the simplest delay |
| 21:16.09 | Iriel | namely the next OnUpdate that fires |
| 21:16.12 | Iriel | (or one later) |
| 21:16.29 | Iriel | SetScript an OnUpdate handler when you get the event |
| 21:16.34 | Iriel | SetScript it to nil when you're done |
| 21:18.22 | Olorin` | was hoping not ot have to use delay trigger but it probably would be fine, difficult to know what delay since all pc's different |
| 21:18.34 | Shirik|Ecole | I thought you were required to update the map |
| 21:18.39 | Iriel | Well, wow stuff USUALLY happens in one of a couple of ways |
| 21:18.50 | Iriel | (1) New data is available immediately |
| 21:18.51 | Shirik|Ecole | it's possible this "delay" is just a result of another addon updating it |
| 21:19.01 | Iriel | (2) New data is available after the event dispatch phase is done |
| 21:19.14 | Iriel | (3) New data is available after a server replies (usually there's an event for this) |
| 21:19.24 | Iriel | (4) New data is available after you ask for it (with or without a subsequent event) |
| 21:19.33 | Iriel | Shirik's suggestion of (4) sounds about right for this one |
| 21:19.41 | Olorin` | im not actually using the map itself but using GetPlayerLocs() to check if x,y are both 0 |
| 21:19.49 | Shirik|Ecole | yes |
| 21:19.59 | Shirik|Ecole | And those numbers are not valid until you use SetMapToCurrentZone(), iirc |
| 21:20.04 | Iriel | Yet but that function is in the context of the current map zone isn't it? |
| 21:20.24 | Olorin` | ah ok, maybee ill check and see if the map update event firing would be late enough to work |
| 21:20.40 | Shirik|Ecole | huh? |
| 21:20.51 | Shirik|Ecole | just call SetMapToCurrentZone() immediately followed by GetPlayerLocs() |
| 21:21.07 | Olorin` | ah i see what you mean |
| 21:21.31 | Shirik|Ecole | except GetPlayerLocs() doesn't exist |
| 21:21.35 | Shirik|Ecole | but I assume you're using the right function |
| 21:21.37 | Olorin` | err ... sec |
| 21:22.04 | Olorin` | GetPlayerMapPosition() :) |
| 21:22.26 | Olorin` | using that lol other was my function name :/ |
| 21:24.32 | Zyndrome | gg, would've had Undying this week ... IF I WASNT PUT ON TANKING ON RAZUVIOUS |
| 21:24.34 | Iriel | Olorin`: did you actually look up http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetPlayerMapPosition ? |
| 21:24.35 | Zyndrome | never done it before |
| 21:24.37 | Zyndrome | and fucked up |
| 21:24.46 | Zyndrome | "yeah lets put the guy who never done it on tank duty" |
| 21:24.56 | Olorin` | thanks again for suggestions Shirik Iriel, just giving the set map a go now |
| 21:26.24 | Olorin` | I did when stared using the function Iriel but that wasnt relevant since it was a change someone requested and wasnt part of my original plan to hide the addon when in a zone that doesnt report locs |
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| 21:33.07 | Arrowmaster | you should check to see if WorldMapFrame is visable though before calling SetMapToCurrentZone(), people dont like it when they have the world map open and the location changes |
| 21:35.29 | Olorin` | hmm i think i mightt just delay the check for 5secs after zoning, not like its going to matter if the little frame is shown for 5secs, although that did seem to work fine |
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| 21:40.38 | Olorin` | Arrowmaster thanks for pointing that out also |
| 21:49.39 | Iriel | Did 3.0.8 break reagent use entirey? |
| 21:49.40 | Cairenn | http://www.tumeroks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/mmorpg.png |
| 21:50.09 | Iriel | I remember a discussion of campfires not consuming wood, and i've noticed that raise dead isn't consuming corpse dust |
| 21:51.03 | Hjalte | I thought the Camp Fire change was in the patch notes. |
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| 21:58.21 | Consite | I'm sure I saw it in some notes. Can't find it now, though. |
| 21:58.41 | Consite | But I have had to buy candles since the patch. |
| 21:58.51 | foxlit | hm, shiny launcher. |
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| 22:19.11 | End | wow |
| 22:19.39 | End | how did I never notice the family guy rickrolling |
| 22:19.44 | End | I'm a terrible person |
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| 22:30.05 | Shirik|Ecole | umm |
| 22:30.13 | Shirik|Ecole | raid1, raid2, etc., are still valid unit ids, right? |
| 22:30.29 | Iriel | yes |
| 22:30.44 | Shirik|Ecole | Why would UnitExists("raid1") return nothing (or nil, I can't tell) |
| 22:30.55 | Iriel | or should I say, we haven't been told they're gone |
| 22:31.00 | Iriel | well, does that unit existt? |
| 22:31.01 | Shirik|Ecole | nm |
| 22:31.02 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm stupid |
| 22:31.14 | End | not in a raid? ;-) |
| 22:31.17 | Shirik|Ecole | I converted to master looter but forgot to convert to raid -_- |
| 22:31.23 | End | haha |
| 22:31.53 | Davnel | lol |
| 22:34.41 | Davnel | that good? |
| 22:34.47 | foxlit | Why are you seeing folding blocks where none should exist? |
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| 22:35.44 | foxlit | Because your resource fork is out of date, evidently :/ |
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| 22:41.26 | Arrowmaster | so the transformers 2 superbowl trailer looks cool |
| 22:41.31 | Arrowmaster | short but cool |
| 22:42.38 | Arrowmaster | what |
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| 22:47.54 | Tekkub | SOUP! |
| 22:49.56 | Davnel | what type ? |
| 22:50.57 | linear | what is this new frame depth for |
| 22:51.38 | Iriel | I dont know |
| 22:51.49 | Iriel | My guess is stero graphics, but that is a wild guess |
| 22:52.07 | Iriel | If someone wants to buy me a stereo setup i'll happily do some research on the matter 8-) |
| 22:52.14 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Iriel |
| 22:52.14 | purl | chops Iriel in half with a free Solaris 7 CD |
| 22:52.33 | linear | is that 3d stuff? |
| 22:52.51 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 22:55.11 | foxlit | obscene refresh-rate monitor, isn't it? |
| 22:55.37 | Arrowmaster | yes, 120hz |
| 22:55.55 | foxlit | That's not really obscene :/ |
| 22:55.56 | Arrowmaster | good luck finding one that can do it at max res |
| 22:56.40 | Thunder_Child | easy |
| 22:56.44 | Thunder_Child | but expensive |
| 22:57.34 | Thunder_Child | though define 'max res' |
| 23:00.57 | Thunder_Child | thats odd...it's having me wait the 20sec for a logout in an inn |
| 23:01.50 | foxlit | Or being unable to mount up on Krasus' Landing |
| 23:03.36 | Thunder_Child | hmm..i could really go for some cold pizza right now |
| 23:04.14 | Davnel | mm cold pizza |
| 23:05.45 | Thunder_Child | i prefer it over warm pizza tbh |
| 23:09.09 | Davnel | I like both |
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| 23:20.36 | cbreak | always the same kind of pizza is boring. |
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| 23:26.03 | Davnel | thats why you get differnet pizza toppings! |
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| 23:35.29 | Nom- | mmmm |
| 23:35.46 | Nom- | You know what's better than Pizza at 7:30am in the morning ? |
| 23:36.04 | Nom- | Bacon, Eggs, Spinach, Mushroom, Toast all on one plate |
| 23:37.06 | haste | pizza at 7:30AM is always a bad idea |
| 23:37.36 | Nom- | Aww, I dunno... depends on the pizza |
| 23:38.18 | haste | Then I |
| 23:38.34 | haste | 've yet to eat a pizza I would have at 7:30 |
| 23:39.04 | Nom- | Then you obviously buy from places like Pizza Hut or Dominos |
| 23:39.27 | Cide | define 12pm to be the midpoint of the day |
| 23:39.29 | Cide | then |
| 23:39.31 | haste | We don't have either here in norway |
| 23:40.02 | Cide | awesomenessOfPizza(timeOfday) = |timeOfDay-12pm|^3 |
| 23:40.22 | Thunder_Child | even crappy pizza is good in the wee hours of the morning |
| 23:40.32 | Thunder_Child | and cold...esp cold |
| 23:41.01 | Nom- | Are you saying that pizza isn't awesome at 12pm ? |
| 23:41.24 | haste | 10pm is like the pizza-prime-time |
| 23:41.38 | Cide | how about |
| 23:41.41 | Cide | awesomenessOfPizza(timeOfday) = |timeOfDay-12pm|^3 + 1 |
| 23:41.43 | Thunder_Child | s/pm/am/ |
| 23:42.01 | sacarasc | Using am/pm is made of fail |
| 23:42.05 | Cide | yep |
| 23:42.06 | haste | I agree |
| 23:42.14 | Cide | awesomenessOfPizza(timeOfday) = |timeOfDay-noon|^3 + 1 |
| 23:42.47 | Cide | actually |
| 23:43.20 | Cide | awesomenessOfPizza(timeSpentBeingAwake) = timeSpentBeingAwake^3 + 1 |
| 23:43.25 | Cide | that's definitely universal |
| 23:43.49 | Davnel | last time I had 3am pizza I was designing a supply logistics system for P&G |
| 23:43.52 | Davnel | that wasn't fun |
| 23:43.58 | *** join/#wowuidev Mike-N-Go (n=MikeNGoS@189.176.145.69) |
| 23:44.13 | Thunder_Child | but the pizza was |
| 23:44.18 | Davnel | it was |
| 23:44.26 | Davnel | got a B for it so was good over all in the end :D |
| 23:45.02 | Cide | >>> def awesomeness_of_pizza(time_spent_being_awake):\n\treturn time_spent_being_awake**3 + 1\nprint map(awesomness_of_pizza, range(1, 24)) |
| 23:45.02 | Davnel | would of been an A had the otehr guys not pissed off early or spent all their time on a damn database we didn't need |
| 23:45.02 | Cide | Cide: NameError("name 'awesomness_of_pizza' is not defined",) |
| 23:45.10 | Cide | >>> def awesomeness_of_pizza(time_spent_being_awake):\n\treturn time_spent_being_awake**3 + 1\nprint map(awesomeness_of_pizza, range(1, 24)) |
| 23:45.10 | Cide | Cide: '[2, 9, 28, 65, 126, 217, 344, 513, 730, 1001, 1332, 1729, 2198, 2745, 3376, 4097, 4914, 5833, 6860, 8001, 9262, 10649, 12168]' |
| 23:45.13 | Cide | yessss |
| 23:45.18 | Davnel | lol |
| 23:47.48 | *** join/#wowuidev spode (n=spode@213.21.89.233) |
| 23:48.26 | Teomyr | it's over 9000! |
| 23:49.12 | Nom- | fffssss |
| 23:49.16 | Nom- | air con = broken again |
| 23:49.22 | Nom- | 29.8 degrees and rising |
| 23:49.25 | Nom- | I hate this building |
| 23:51.02 | foxlit | Nom-: 15C and not rising fast enough :/ |
| 23:51.10 | Davnel | ooh cold :S |
| 23:52.08 | Davnel | yay I killed firefox |
| 23:52.52 | sacarasc | -1.8 and falling ;p |
| 23:53.35 | Davnel | what bank stock prices? |
| 23:59.44 | End | one of my guildies thought the superbowl is about bowling... |
