| 00:00.08 | Thunder_Child | bah, i use praid over them |
| 00:00.27 | AbsolutRayne | Thunder_Child: I cant figure out any size configuration of the like |
| 00:00.30 | AbsolutRayne | with priad |
| 00:03.35 | Thunder_Child | AbsolutRayne, code it yourself? |
| 00:06.33 | Amarande | c'mon, auctioneer |
| 00:06.43 | Amarande | gah, I don't know how people stand it on high pop. realms |
| 00:07.02 | Syzgyn | We stay out of Dalaran |
| 00:07.14 | Amarande | Syzgyn: no, I mean with how long Auctioneer takes to scan an AH |
| 00:07.20 | Syzgyn | Ah |
| 00:07.22 | Amarande | Turalyon is medium, and still it seems like it takes forever |
| 00:07.26 | Syzgyn | I dont use it, so I dunno |
| 00:08.48 | Amarande | WTF |
| 00:08.55 | Amarande | someone is selling http://www.wowhead.com/?item=1728 for 10,000+ g |
| 00:11.14 | AbsolutRayne | I used to have one of those |
| 00:11.56 | Gnarfoz | it's the sword on the vanilla wow retail box + really rare = moneh |
| 00:16.33 | AbsolutRayne | Yay for Curse and Wowace being down at the same time |
| 00:16.53 | Wraithan1 | You know how they are related, right AbsolutRayne |
| 00:17.05 | AbsolutRayne | Yeah I do |
| 00:17.15 | AbsolutRayne | Im just trying to look into this Addon error |
| 00:17.38 | AbsolutRayne | Thats all |
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| 00:19.03 | AbsolutRayne | Blah |
| 00:20.20 | AbsolutRayne | Anyone use GridManaBars by chance? |
| 00:28.38 | Amarande | Gnarfoz: Reminds me of the Fiery Dragon Sword from Guild Wars |
| 00:28.40 | Gnarfoz | AbsolutRayne: used to |
| 00:28.48 | Amarande | until FDS became a cheap novelty pretty much |
| 00:28.56 | Amarande | it's Icy Dragon Sword that's the good one now |
| 00:31.17 | Amarande | I need to play Guild Wars now |
| 00:31.20 | Amarande | er, more |
| 00:31.29 | Amarande | but I can barely seem to play it anymore without trying to use WoW controls now :| |
| 00:32.42 | AbsolutRayne | This is almost driving me nuts >< |
| 00:34.01 | p3lim | Lol, GMs got a new way to help people now |
| 00:34.12 | p3lim | No more 'Please delete interface and WTF folder' |
| 00:34.32 | p3lim | I just got this one twice today: 'Please delete QuestHelper from Interface\AddOns folder' |
| 00:34.50 | p3lim | I dont even use QH :p |
| 00:34.56 | Hirsute | Has QuestHelper been causing an inordinate amount of errors lately? |
| 00:34.58 | NeoTron | Amarande: open auction house, run /auc getall |
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| 00:35.10 | kd3 | lately? |
| 00:35.32 | p3lim | Talked to this one GM, they have had huge amounts of issues with people unable to log on because of QuestHelper |
| 00:35.56 | Hirsute | Heh. Never used QuestHelper, has it always caused problems? |
| 00:36.06 | p3lim | No idea, ive used TourGuide |
| 00:36.12 | Kirov | QuestHelper has always had funny problems. |
| 00:36.41 | p3lim | Anyways gnite |
| 00:36.47 | Kirov | Usually not errors, but it tends to do more than WoW's UI engine intended |
| 00:38.09 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: there's a UI button for that, now :) |
| 00:38.11 | ZorbaTHut | p3lim, I don't suppose you can get a screenshot of that? |
| 00:38.25 | p3lim | Ill talk to a GM tomorrow and get the same answer |
| 00:38.32 | ZorbaTHut | I've actually talked to the GMs and they've said that they don't ever mention specific UI mods, only I've gotten so many reports of it that I think they're lying, and I want proof |
| 00:38.43 | ZorbaTHut | can you screenshot it then? I'd love you forever :) |
| 00:38.55 | p3lim | I got quite suprised by the first one, but when two and three saying the same I started to wonder |
| 00:39.11 | ZorbaTHut | (that said, I just fixed a pile of QH bugs in the latest version - I don't know of any major outstanding errors at the moment, only one glitch that I haven't managed to fix that just hangs QH and only QH with a useful error) |
| 00:39.25 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/jewelry/a38d/ |
| 00:42.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ZorbaTHut: any number of blues on CSF have suggested disabling QH as a *first* step as their first post in many threads |
| 00:42.36 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: guess I should upgrade my auctioner :P |
| 00:42.40 | ScytheBlade1 | And I mean QH in specific |
| 00:42.46 | NeoTron | it's one of those addons I don't update very often |
| 00:43.22 | ZorbaTHut | argh, I'll go see if I can find some of those |
| 00:43.44 | ScytheBlade1 | It's been some time since I've seen them do it, but they were all post 3.0.3 |
| 00:44.05 | ZorbaTHut | if it was during the Dalaran load bug era, I can understand it |
| 00:44.10 | ZorbaTHut | if it's still happening lately, it's annoying |
| 00:44.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't think lately |
| 00:44.21 | ZorbaTHut | sounds like it might've been the dalaran bug then |
| 00:44.38 | ScytheBlade1 | But "disable QH" would still stick around the customer service for quite a while as a result |
| 00:45.06 | ZorbaTHut | true |
| 00:45.17 | ZorbaTHut | I'm still seeing posts with half-year-old advice getting bumped in the UI forum |
| 00:45.23 | ZorbaTHut | people talking about bugs that actually predate me :P |
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| 00:46.26 | Burgundy | Hey, is it possible to seem from an addon or script the status of the surrounding world? (e.g. when you login to see when everything around you is loaded) |
| 00:46.51 | ScytheBlade1 | no |
| 00:47.21 | Burgundy | Alright, thanks! |
| 00:49.18 | Wobin | hehe: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/18028.html |
| 00:49.31 | Wobin | what a great name to begin with. Chip Saltsman |
| 00:49.40 | Wobin | How his parents must have hated him =P |
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| 01:15.34 | AbsolutRayne | What would cause an Electric Bill to go from 160$ to 260$ the next month |
| 01:15.53 | Kirov | Mice. |
| 01:16.11 | kd3 | it getting colder and the heater coming on more |
| 01:16.11 | AbsolutRayne | Same usage. Only honest to god change is that im here now and my Comps plugged in, but its turned off at night after idling for 30 mins |
| 01:16.11 | Kirov | Electric stealing rodents, specitically |
| 01:16.13 | Kirov | wow, spelling fail |
| 01:16.17 | AbsolutRayne | And honestly, it hasnt been that cold here |
| 01:16.25 | AbsolutRayne | Itll be super cold for a week |
| 01:16.28 | AbsolutRayne | then warm up again |
| 01:16.28 | Gnarfoz | Zeksie: poke |
| 01:26.50 | Amarande | hmm |
| 01:26.58 | Amarande | there was once a day when the 45 minute stratholme run was considered a major challenge |
| 01:27.03 | Wobin | AbsolutRayne: Parents complaining about increases? =) |
| 01:27.14 | Wobin | Amarande: Those were the days... |
| 01:27.14 | Amarande | now you can do it solo, even wasting 10 of the minutes going to the table for dinner |
| 01:27.19 | p3lim | Amarande: my personal record: 8 minutes |
| 01:28.43 | p3lim | anyways, i did strat UD timed in 38 min back in vanilla |
| 01:29.48 | Amarande | and no, the mount didn't drop again LOL |
| 01:29.52 | Amarande | someone would probably kill me if it did |
| 01:30.35 | Amarande | after all, you're talking to someone who got the mount from their very first rivendare kill heh |
| 01:31.36 | p3lim | got it on my 4th kill on my shaman |
| 01:31.44 | p3lim | 1st and 2nd kill the sword dropped |
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| 01:53.13 | Wobin | I should probably run it on my DK |
| 01:55.28 | Tem|afk | I ran it enough on my DK to get him The Argent Champion |
| 01:55.31 | Tem|afk | no mount |
| 01:56.07 | Zyndrome | I ran it 22 times on my pally |
| 01:56.10 | Zyndrome | the mount dropped |
| 01:56.11 | Zyndrome | twice |
| 01:56.38 | Zyndrome | http://www.shatteredminds.net/skit/baron-serious-business.jpg |
| 01:57.13 | Zyndrome | now I've been at it for quite some time on my DK, and still nothing |
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| 01:57.48 | Shirik | Is Arcane Breath the random thing from Malygos? |
| 01:58.26 | Zyndrome | it's supposed to only hit the tank, but I hear people tell tales of him breath-farting, hitting random people |
| 01:58.35 | Shirik | so that is the one that hits the tank |
| 01:58.43 | Shirik | I don't believe them honestly |
| 01:58.50 | Shirik | However I'm trying to figure out how I could have been hit by that |
| 01:58.56 | Zyndrome | once it bugged like hell, and hit the tank 3 times in a row ... within 0.5 seconds |
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| 01:59.24 | Spellbinder | farting rofl |
| 02:00.25 | Gnarfoz | Zyndrome: the explosion has the same name, so... might have been DK pets for example who got it and stood to near - or even normal players... or other shit like that |
| 02:01.01 | Gnarfoz | although we also had one night where we just couldn't get past p1 because he annihilated the raid randomly :| |
| 02:01.03 | Zyndrome | ghoul pets tend to bug and stand midair, and melee him |
| 02:01.21 | Gnarfoz | which might or might not be in range for... awesome stuff. |
| 02:05.16 | NeoTron | Arcane Breath is mor than one thing |
| 02:05.20 | NeoTron | as Gnarfoz said |
| 02:05.32 | NeoTron | if you're hit by the breath and live, you do a secondary AoE with the same name |
| 02:05.44 | NeoTron | that's usually what wipes the raid if someone doesn't move fast enough |
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| 02:08.14 | Shirik | Any 25-man priests online? |
| 02:08.18 | Shirik | healing priests* |
| 02:08.54 | NeoTron | I read lead 25-man healing priests! |
| 02:09.01 | NeoTron | wow. raid lead even |
| 02:09.37 | Shirik | are you a priest? |
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| 02:14.55 | NeoTron | nope |
| 02:15.03 | NeoTron | last I was a priest was in vanilla wow |
| 02:20.39 | Shirik | I'm sorry |
| 02:20.42 | Shirik | those were the dark ages |
| 02:22.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sure that if you were shadow then, you were retarded |
| 02:22.34 | ScytheBlade1 | So I don't see how those would be the "dark" ages :/ |
| 02:22.37 | Tekkub | that or emo |
| 02:22.46 | Tekkub | and undead |
| 02:22.50 | Tekkub | with a mohawk |
| 02:23.06 | Shirik | This is my night elf mohawk |
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| 02:23.26 | Tekkub | WTB dorf mullet |
| 02:23.28 | duaiwe | yay for bugs on razuv screwing up 'The Undying' >< |
| 02:23.51 | Shirik | Also, fyi |
| 02:23.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Bugs? |
| 02:23.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Sounds like you're just bad |
| 02:24.07 | Shirik | Malygos now hits pets with arcane blast |
| 02:24.15 | Tekkub | you know, they need an achievement for a boss dying with only one, cloth wearing, raid member alive |
| 02:24.15 | Shirik | thus wiping your raid |
| 02:24.17 | NightHawkTheSane | no, one of the understudy controllers got a "this unit cannot be controlled" error, during the fight |
| 02:24.35 | NightHawkTheSane | it sorta went down hill from there |
| 02:24.36 | kd3 | so, where are the rogues, evasion tanking? |
| 02:24.45 | Tekkub | name it "Oh fuck we're gonna wipe... run priest!" |
| 02:24.47 | NightHawkTheSane | rogues? dude, we dont have any rogues >< |
| 02:24.52 | NightHawkTheSane | not even for the 25 man r uns |
| 02:26.14 | Tekkub | I'm telling you, they need to just get rid of lockboxes and locked chests |
| 02:26.21 | Tekkub | no one needs rogues anymore |
| 02:26.31 | Tekkub | leave them for pvp, if anything at all |
| 02:27.25 | mikma | amen. |
| 02:27.30 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd kill for a rogue in our raids |
| 02:27.37 | NightHawkTheSane | well, good rogue |
| 02:27.41 | Gnarfoz | I'd kill a rogue for raids |
| 02:27.49 | mikma | i'd kill a rogue in PvP |
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| 02:28.42 | ZorbaTHut | tekkub, I've seen a screenshot of a 25-man raid boss killed by the last tick of the last surviving shadow priest's dot, right *after* said shadow priest was one-shotted |
| 02:29.49 | ZorbaTHut | I feel things like that really need to be feats of strength though :D |
| 02:30.11 | ZorbaTHut | "delivered the killing blow on a 25-raid boss as the last survivor" |
| 02:30.36 | Tekkub | there could be a "boss dies of DoT when all players are dead" one, sure |
| 02:30.58 | Tekkub | there should be a whole section of wakey hard achievements like that |
| 02:31.03 | Tekkub | or hidden ones |
| 02:31.29 | ZorbaTHut | you mean like Feats of Strength? |
| 02:34.41 | Tekkub | those don't give points or rewards |
| 02:35.24 | Tekkub | you get the dot-kill hidden achievement, everyone in the raid gets mailed a pokadot tabard |
| 02:35.56 | Tekkub | and the title "Thrower of DoTs" |
| 02:35.59 | Amarande | hm |
| 02:36.19 | Amarande | from what I see of shadow priests these days |
| 02:36.31 | Amarande | I think you might even be better off crossing the path of a Drujani priest than a shadow priest in WoW. :) |
| 02:37.26 | Tekkub | a whatthewho? |
| 02:37.37 | Tekkub | do they go after altar boys? |
| 02:37.53 | Thunder_Child | any word on the lag issue? |
| 02:38.25 | Amarande | I remember playing a shadow priest used to be nerve wracking and involved feeling very vulnerable and such |
| 02:38.29 | Amarande | now ... 2 3 4 6 8, dead mob |
| 02:38.55 | Tekkub | 3 3 3 3 6 7 7, 8 if it's not dead |
| 02:39.28 | Amarande | SW:P, VE, VT, MB, MF, and usually it doesn't survive the MF |
| 02:39.35 | Tekkub | or for 2-pulls, 3 3 3 3 tab 9 9 9 |
| 02:39.37 | Amarande | if it does, then it's probably about to die from a tick of SW:P |
| 02:39.46 | Amarande | at least in winterspring |
| 02:39.56 | Amarande | think it was like that in silithus too though |
| 02:40.11 | Tekkub | *shudder* sillythis |
| 02:40.18 | Tekkub | such a suck zone |
| 02:40.21 | kd3 | sandlol |
| 02:40.50 | mikma | silithus... |
| 02:40.51 | Amarande | ehh, plenty of easy exp now |
| 02:40.55 | Amarande | especially with the nerfed 60-70 |
| 02:41.09 | Tekkub | plenty in better zones too, like winterspring |
| 02:41.17 | mikma | sure it had aq20/40 but shit... silithus! |
| 02:42.05 | ZorbaTHut | pfft, I leveled in Silithus before it even existed |
| 02:42.13 | Tekkub | BUGS SHOULDN"T BE THAT BIG |
| 02:42.18 | Tekkub | *cringe* |
| 02:49.49 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/giant_pussy.jpg |
| 02:51.01 | mikma | ultimate gay-teat: would you rather play with a) barbies b) guns |
| 02:54.47 | Tekkub | c) none of the above |
| 02:56.18 | mikma | thats not an option! only a or b |
| 02:56.34 | Tekkub | can I have a microwave to play with as well? |
| 02:57.06 | mikma | yes, why not |
| 02:57.16 | Tekkub | then a |
| 02:57.55 | mikma | excellent choice sir |
| 03:00.31 | mikma | so UnitExists(name) works apparently |
| 03:00.58 | Thunder_Child | blizzard == seriously pissing me off |
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| 03:04.08 | Shirik | No it doesn't, mikma |
| 03:04.12 | Shirik | At least not as well as you want it to |
| 03:04.57 | Shirik | oh I take that back, it does now |
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| 03:06.34 | Gngsk | giant pussy guy's face is priceless |
| 03:09.14 | mikma | shirik: yeah, thats what wowprogramming says! |
| 03:09.26 | mikma | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitExists |
| 03:11.24 | mikma | if UnitExists("fooname") then SendAddonMessage(prefix,message,"WHISPER","fooname") end |
| 03:12.14 | Shirik | uhh |
| 03:12.31 | Shirik | no |
| 03:12.34 | Shirik | only for raid members :P |
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| 03:13.11 | mikma | says who? lies! |
| 03:18.30 | mikma | shirik: http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=mikma&path=%2FTomTom_BFF%2FTomTom_BFF.lua -> http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_012909_041632.jpg =D |
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| 04:01.48 | End | hahahaha |
| 04:02.02 | End | malygos just attacked the raid in p2 |
| 04:03.12 | Wobin | one of my friends just had a mass firing at his workplace |
| 04:03.17 | Wobin | turns out... |
| 04:03.19 | Wobin | turns out a total of 35 jobs were made redundant, only 11 were sacked yesterday, the rest were vacancies left deliberately unfilled over the last 6 months |
| 04:03.30 | Wobin | Redundancy Buffer! |
| 04:08.09 | Thunder_Child | heh, there is a porno called "Boob-E" |
| 04:08.21 | Corrodias | facepalm-e |
| 04:08.22 | NightHawkTheSane | thats depressingly uncreative |
| 04:11.46 | Wobin | I... am unable to fit the plot of Wall-E into a porn script |
| 04:12.02 | Wobin | as the only humans are terribly obese |
| 04:12.25 | Thunder_Child | sex androids would be my best guess |
| 04:12.32 | Wobin | come to clean up earth? |
| 04:12.42 | Thunder_Child | one cock at a time? |
| 04:13.25 | Wobin | there aren't any left on earth though |
| 04:13.41 | Tain | There was more dialog in Wall-E than most porno |
| 04:14.58 | Corrodias | it's probably robot-on-robot |
| 04:15.23 | Wobin | poor actors =( |
| 04:15.34 | Wobin | I felt bad enough with the two guys in the pterodactly suits |
| 04:15.42 | Wobin | but to have to dress up like wall-e |
| 04:20.51 | Thunder_Child | thats your fantasy isnt Wobin |
| 04:21.51 | Tain | My fantasy is me on sexy, sexy robot. |
| 04:22.15 | Wobin | robot sex would probably involve too much chafing in bad places |
| 04:22.30 | Tain | Oil can |
| 04:22.56 | Corrodias | my fantasy is Wobin on bot. |
| 04:23.28 | Corrodias | now we're getting somewhere |
| 04:24.23 | Shirik | does anyone know where the "mklink" utility exists? |
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| 04:25.04 | Shirik | oh, it's a dos command, not a utility |
| 04:25.04 | Shirik | crap |
| 04:25.30 | Corrodias | almost all of those are executable files anyway |
| 04:25.42 | Shirik | the ones listed in "help" are not |
| 04:25.44 | Shirik | and this one is |
| 04:25.53 | Shirik | unlike Linux where everything is a program |
| 04:26.09 | Corrodias | subst.exe is |
| 04:26.11 | Iriel | well, apart from the shell builtins |
| 04:26.21 | Shirik | what's a shell builtin? |
| 04:26.35 | Corrodias | ... in fact, i have at least four copies of subst.exe |
| 04:26.55 | Iriel | Shrik: a command your shell implements |
| 04:27.01 | Iriel | Shirik: Like cd, or setenv |
| 04:27.06 | Shirik | I was more meaning an example |
| 04:27.06 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:27.06 | Iriel | Shirik: That isn't a program |
| 04:27.13 | Corrodias | popd isn't, though |
| 04:27.36 | Shirik | fact of the matter is I can't use mklink in cygwin |
| 04:27.38 | Shirik | which is a problem |
| 04:27.52 | Shirik | because windows's shell is incapable of doing what I want to do |
| 04:28.24 | Corrodias | hard links? somewhere between difficult and impossible if you don't get additional utilities for it, yeah |
| 04:28.30 | Iriel | Does cygwin's ln -s do the same trick? |
| 04:28.33 | Shirik | I need to make about 40 of them |
| 04:28.44 | Shirik | I haven't tried, Iriel |
| 04:28.44 | Iriel | or just ln |
| 04:31.19 | Shirik | ln -s made .lnk files |
| 04:31.26 | Shirik | which normally would be ok, but wow won't like that |
| 04:31.37 | Shirik | ln just yelled at me |
| 04:31.39 | Corrodias | cygwin can't run windows executables, eh? |
| 04:31.50 | Corrodias | or... shell... whatever |
| 04:31.53 | Shirik | ln: `Auc-Util-ScanButton': hard link not allowed for directory |
| 04:31.56 | Iriel | Corrodias: It should be able to |
| 04:31.59 | Shirik | no Corrodias, not built in ones |
| 04:32.06 | Shirik | windows executables it can |
| 04:32.12 | Shirik | but mklink is not an executable |
| 04:32.13 | Corrodias | any reason you have to do it with cygwin? >_> |
| 04:32.20 | kd3 | you can't hardlink directories... just files. unless there's ntfs hackery involved |
| 04:32.27 | Iriel | can your bash script create a windows cmd script on the fly and execute it? |
| 04:32.37 | Shirik | heh |
| 04:32.41 | Shirik | It should not be that complicated! |
| 04:32.49 | Shirik | kd3: I need to create directory junction |
| 04:32.53 | Corrodias | directory links are ... odd. never delete a directory that has been linked, drop the link first. just so you are aware. |
| 04:33.12 | Corrodias | at least as of verion 5, windows wasn't totally sure what to do in that situation |
| 04:33.25 | Syzgyn | NightHawkTheSane: ping |
| 04:33.54 | Corrodias | anyway, junction should handle it, if i remember correctly |
| 04:33.58 | NightHawkTheSane | pong, but i cant really talk right now ;) |
| 04:34.05 | Shirik | ln: creating hard link `/cygdrive/d/Program Files (x86)/World of Warcraft/Interf |
| 04:34.05 | Shirik | ace/Addons/Auc-Util-VendMarkup': File exists |
| 04:34.06 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 04:34.08 | Syzgyn | ah, nevermind then :P |
| 04:34.11 | Corrodias | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896768.aspx |
| 04:34.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i can kinda read, though |
| 04:34.15 | Shirik | (from ln -d) |
| 04:34.26 | Syzgyn | Stableboy is summoning my land mount in shatt |
| 04:34.52 | End | Syzgyn: go back into the main part of the city and back to dalaran |
| 04:34.53 | End | er |
| 04:34.56 | Shirik | blah |
| 04:34.57 | Shirik | ln: creating hard link `/cygdrive/d/Program Files (x86)/World of Warcraft/Interf |
| 04:34.57 | End | back to krasus's landing |
| 04:34.58 | Shirik | ace/Addons/Auc-Util-VendMarkup' => `Auc-Util-VendMarkup': Invalid cross-device l |
| 04:34.58 | Shirik | ink |
| 04:35.02 | Shirik | stab stab stab stab |
| 04:35.09 | Syzgyn | End: It's only a lvl 70 toon |
| 04:35.28 | Corrodias | and since junction is a windows executable, you should be able to run it even from within cygwin if you must use cygwin for some reason |
| 04:35.36 | Shirik | it's not |
| 04:35.39 | Shirik | at least I couldn't find it |
| 04:35.40 | Shirik | oh that |
| 04:35.55 | End | Syzgyn: oh shatt! |
| 04:35.56 | End | well |
| 04:35.57 | End | fail |
| 04:35.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: try reloading your ui? |
| 04:36.05 | Syzgyn | Will do |
| 04:36.07 | NightHawkTheSane | might be a caching issue |
| 04:36.17 | End | or /stableboy refresh |
| 04:36.18 | End | :P |
| 04:36.22 | WhiteWolf | vista ntfs has proper soft/hard link support |
| 04:36.28 | WhiteWolf | explorer is fully aware of them and treats them properly |
| 04:36.44 | WhiteWolf | see: mklink |
| 04:36.45 | Hirsute | And there's even a built-in utility to create them |
| 04:36.48 | Corrodias | all NTFS since 2k has, hasn't it? although explorer of XP wasn't sure what to do about it |
| 04:36.55 | WhiteWolf | well... not really |
| 04:37.02 | NightHawkTheSane | End: or that, i forgot i put that in |
| 04:37.02 | Hirsute | And there was no built-in utility to work with them |
| 04:37.05 | WhiteWolf | you could only symlink dirs (junction) and hardlink files |
| 04:37.07 | NightHawkTheSane | heh |
| 04:37.19 | Anaral | Odd, I'm missing Repair.exe from both my wow folders. Anyone else notice this? |
| 04:37.23 | WhiteWolf | and as you mentioned, explorer was completely befuddled about them |
| 04:37.30 | WhiteWolf | Anaral: mine was deleted as well |
| 04:37.37 | WhiteWolf | you can get it from thier website though |
| 04:37.40 | kd3 | the hell, so am I |
| 04:37.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Anaral: it's been noted. It was wiped from everyone's computer. Tech Support has a sticky on the mattter |
| 04:37.44 | Corrodias | so vista lets you work properly with hardlinked directories? |
| 04:37.51 | WhiteWolf | Corrodias: indeed |
| 04:37.57 | Shirik | there needs to be a bash for windows |
| 04:37.58 | Anaral | ScytheBlade1 and WhiteWolf Thank you. |
| 04:37.59 | Corrodias | that's wild. |
| 04:38.09 | Shirik | junction is not quite a symlink |
| 04:38.11 | Syzgyn | Looks like that did it. |
| 04:38.14 | WhiteWolf | Shirik: not quite |
| 04:38.20 | WhiteWolf | but they do have proper symlinks in ntfs 6 |
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| 04:38.23 | Corrodias | junction uses reparse points |
| 04:38.35 | Hirsute | Shirik: No, but Vista actually has symlinks and hardlinks |
| 04:38.46 | WhiteWolf | (anyone care to say, finally?) |
| 04:39.22 | kd3 | huh. someone just killed maws |
| 04:39.33 | Corrodias | vista tells me access denied. apparently i don't know how to USE Mklink... >_>> |
| 04:39.44 | Syzgyn | I'm not looking forward to getting all the reagents to summon maws... |
| 04:39.53 | Shirik | Corrodias: What did you run |
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| 04:40.04 | Hirsute | Corrodias: Must be used escalated |
| 04:40.08 | Shirik | Not always |
| 04:40.09 | Corrodias | mkdir /h temp Utilities |
| 04:40.10 | Shirik | depends on what you're doing |
| 04:40.11 | Corrodias | er, mklink |
| 04:40.18 | Corrodias | Hirsute: i'm already using cmd as administrator |
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| 04:40.23 | Hirsute | Okay |
| 04:40.49 | Hirsute | Corrodias: Are those directories? |
| 04:41.04 | Corrodias | yeah. well, the first one doesn't exist, although it didn't work any better if it does exist. |
| 04:41.09 | Shirik | You can't hard link directories |
| 04:41.09 | Hirsute | If so, you need the /d switch |
| 04:41.12 | Shirik | yeah |
| 04:41.22 | Shirik | and /d doesn't always work |
| 04:41.26 | Shirik | needs to be same drive |
| 04:41.29 | Corrodias | but i don't need it to do a symbolic link for a directory... |
| 04:41.37 | Hirsute | Shirik: Interesting, I've never had problems doing it across drives |
| 04:41.37 | Shirik | then /j |
| 04:41.40 | Corrodias | (and how do i delete a link? now i'm stuck with one. just delete it?) |
| 04:41.56 | Shirik | Hirsute: Sorry, wrong file system :P |
| 04:42.00 | Hirsute | Heh |
| 04:42.06 | Corrodias | that makes a junction... not sure if that's a hard link as we were using the term |
| 04:42.18 | Hirsute | I was going to say, I even have links on my NTFS drive to folders on a FAT32 drive |
| 04:42.19 | Shirik | I don't think you can hard link directories in ntfs, I dunno though |
| 04:42.21 | Shirik | try /h /d? |
| 04:42.30 | Corrodias | bad syntax |
| 04:42.45 | Corrodias | guess it only takes one switch |
| 04:42.53 | Shirik | really? I just get access denied |
| 04:43.09 | Corrodias | oops, i typed it wrong |
| 04:43.09 | Hirsute | Shirik: Was that to me? |
| 04:43.17 | Shirik | no |
| 04:43.18 | Hirsute | Okay |
| 04:43.21 | Corrodias | yeah, access denied here still also as well too. |
| 04:44.52 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, that is a seriously fail sentence |
| 04:45.39 | Corrodias | ... now i'm staring at the symlink and junction directories here and wondering how to get rid of them without destroying the original folder too. time for some testing. |
| 04:46.07 | Shirik | symlinks can be deleted, they're just .lnk files |
| 04:47.05 | NightHawkTheSane | >< annnnnnnd.. arthas bugged |
| 04:47.14 | Amarande | hm, is it still better for a tanking druid to use a bit of resilience for uncrittability and then stack dodge, rather than stacking defense rating? |
| 04:47.44 | Corrodias | huh, so they are. apparently, anyway. junctions can be deleted too... or at least in this case it didn't hurt. |
| 04:47.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: no..... |
| 04:48.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: welcome to almost 6 months ago |
| 04:48.20 | NightHawkTheSane | druids are uncrittable from talents alone |
| 04:48.29 | Corrodias | jesus, really? :o |
| 04:48.34 | Wobin | crazy wot? |
| 04:48.36 | Wobin | =) |
| 04:48.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: considering how little +def leather there is, it's not really all that crazy |
| 04:49.04 | NightHawkTheSane | in fact, that was the entire reason |
| 04:49.07 | Amarande | Corrodias: also, it's better this way |
| 04:49.10 | Corrodias | there was no particular shortage in BC :| |
| 04:49.18 | Corrodias | but i'm glad, because druids need more awesome |
| 04:49.19 | Amarande | and if the talents were still 1/2/3% |
| 04:49.20 | NightHawkTheSane | er, yes there was |
| 04:49.33 | Amarande | it would probably still be better to grab the last 2.6% uncrittability from resilience, and stack dodge |
| 04:49.34 | Wobin | pft druids are full of awesome |
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| 04:49.42 | Corrodias | okay, to put it another way, i didn't have a problem being uncrittable when i tanked as a druid |
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| 04:49.44 | Amarande | because def rating rather, well, sucks for druids |
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| 04:49.57 | Amarande | since you don't get to block or parry, you may as well just use dodge rating |
| 04:49.57 | Wobin | hehe yay parry =P |
| 04:50.10 | Wobin | <-- DK =( |
| 04:50.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: it wasn't a problem, but it meant certain itemization choices were forced on you. it also put blizzard in a bind when itemizing as they had to make sure druids could stay uncrittable |
| 04:50.16 | Wobin | but at least we get to use pary |
| 04:50.30 | Corrodias | true |
| 04:55.52 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.flickr.com/photos/tradica/389553196/in/photostream/ |
| 04:58.44 | NightHawkTheSane | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/2915867480_8ce98ff7da.jpg |
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| 05:02.16 | Thunder_Child | ok, thats is a LOT of mayo |
| 05:03.28 | Thunder_Child | s/s// |
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| 05:19.14 | cog|away | now with bacon: http://bacolicio.us/http://wowinterface.com |
| 05:20.20 | Thunder_Child | you mean, "now with lag" |
| 05:20.36 | NightHawkTheSane | heh |
| 05:22.44 | cog|away | bacony lag |
| 05:25.30 | Shirik | what's with the tenacity nerf |
| 05:25.37 | Shirik | it's like 100 to 10 right now and we have only 5 stacks |
| 05:27.18 | Thunder_Child | does that question come in the form of english? |
| 05:29.52 | Shirik | no |
| 05:30.11 | NightHawkTheSane | can you rephrase that in the form of an insult of Thunder_Child ? |
| 05:30.34 | Thunder_Child | no NightHawkTheSane, because it was not |
| 05:30.44 | Thunder_Child | i didnt actually understand the question |
| 05:30.52 | Shirik | yo, this tenacity nerf gives less points than Thunder_Child gives compliments! |
| 05:31.01 | NightHawkTheSane | heehee |
| 05:31.45 | Thunder_Child | true, i am much better at breaking things down then building them up |
| 05:32.11 | Thunder_Child | thats why i like security penitration...it's all about pointing out flaws and whatnot |
| 05:33.14 | Thunder_Child | nothing like getting payed to be a constructive asshole |
| 05:36.36 | batrick | might want to work on your spelling before you become a professional |
| 05:36.39 | batrick | cwutididthar? |
| 05:37.13 | Thunder_Child | professional assholes dont need to know how to spell, just how to use spellcheck |
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| 05:48.31 | Wobin | Eye see what ewe did their |
| 05:48.58 | Wobin | s/see/sea/ |
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| 06:02.05 | Spellbinder | no you meant see |
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| 06:04.30 | kd3 | come from behind victory in eots... 2000/1955 |
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| 06:21.03 | Thunder_Child | "EVGA on MySpace | EVGA on Facebook" <-- this...this is just fail |
| 06:22.51 | Corrodias | who needs press releases when you can BLOG |
| 06:23.38 | Thunder_Child | well blog is one thing...thats more or less like a news feed...but a networking site? bah |
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| 06:29.14 | Tekkub | so is the current hit cap 8% and not 9%? |
| 06:29.32 | Tekkub | on melee/ranged |
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| 06:47.56 | Shirik|Ecole | Pop quiz |
| 06:48.15 | Tekkub | false |
| 06:48.25 | Shirik|Ecole | Do you trust your guild enough such that if they had an addon which reported their DKP total, you would trust it to report the correct DKP in the addon channel? |
| 06:48.36 | Corrodias | i did |
| 06:49.15 | Shirik|Ecole | How long do you think it would take me to sign a DKP value with a short key (256 bit RSA or something) |
| 06:49.16 | Corrodias | although one of our officers was working on a distributed system for just the officers to track it. |
| 06:49.24 | Shirik|Ecole | in wow, of course |
| 06:49.37 | Corrodias | i don't know anything about that, sorry |
| 06:49.38 | Tem|afk | wow fail |
| 06:49.43 | Tem|afk | I logged out in an instance |
| 06:49.49 | Tem|afk | can't log in |
| 06:49.55 | Tem|afk | "No instance servers are available" |
| 06:49.57 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 06:50.16 | Syzgyn | and Shirik: I do, but none of my guildies are code savvy enough to mess with it. |
| 06:50.16 | NightHawkTheSane | win. |
| 06:50.40 | Tekkub | Shirik, are you asking if I trust them to give me accurate numbers (regardless of medium) or if I trust their ability to make an addon to give me accurate numbers? |
| 06:50.53 | Shirik|Ecole | the former |
| 06:51.14 | Syzgyn | oh |
| 06:51.23 | Tekkub | I have to, they're the ones that create and run their DKP system |
| 06:51.42 | Tekkub | I could certainly audit them if the rules are laid out well and I don't trust them |
| 06:51.47 | Shirik|Ecole | Though, in reality it would actually be them "remembering" their DKP and reporting it via an addon |
| 06:51.57 | Shirik|Ecole | it would really boil down to "did they modify the addon" |
| 06:52.02 | Syzgyn | It sounded like you were expecting them to spoof an addon message with incorrect dkp |
| 06:52.08 | Shirik|Ecole | That is what I meant Syzgyn |
| 06:52.10 | Syzgyn | ah |
| 06:52.22 | Shirik|Ecole | Cairenn|afk is asleep |
| 06:52.31 | Tekkub | if you do not trust them with this in the first place, maybe there's a bigger issue here? :) |
| 06:52.32 | Shirik|Ecole | don't wake her up |
| 06:52.42 | Shirik|Ecole | :P |
| 06:52.50 | Syzgyn | well my reply still stands then, none of them are that knowledgeable. You could always do something simple and reverse the number or something. |
| 06:53.09 | Shirik|Ecole | I hate security by obfuscation |
| 06:53.18 | Tekkub | it's not security at all! |
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| 07:02.09 | Thunder_Child | it's prevention |
| 07:04.42 | Thrae | Ah it's fun to find things...I found some gift cards I never redeemed and used them to buy an Xbox (original) and a Plantronics 510 Voyager headset for $30 total. |
| 07:07.55 | Tekkub | I'm beginning to hate attack table |
| 07:07.57 | Tekkub | *s |
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| 07:28.16 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* instead of microsoft creating an OS that can work with legacy software, they created http://www.microsoft.com/windows/enterprise/products/med-v.aspx |
| 07:34.25 | Thunder_Child | there really needs to be a comparison of martial arts |
| 07:34.28 | Thunder_Child | somewhere |
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| 08:23.03 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf laser |
| 08:23.10 | Thunder_Child | ~laser |
| 08:23.10 | purl | i heard laser is Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation |
| 08:23.13 | Adys | ~lazer Thunder_Child |
| 08:23.37 | Thunder_Child | ~literal CMD: laser (.*?) |
| 08:23.46 | Thunder_Child | ~literal CMD: wtf (.*?) |
| 08:23.56 | Thunder_Child | ~literal CMD: wtf laser (.*?) |
| 08:24.03 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Adys |
| 08:24.03 | purl | squishes Adys like a bug |
| 08:24.15 | Thunder_Child | ~factinfo wtf |
| 08:24.15 | purl | wtf -- created by Sargun <n=Sargun@atarack/staff/sargun> at Tue Nov 13 07:29:57 2007 (443 days); it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. |
| 08:24.16 | Adys | ~literal CMD: lart (.*?) |
| 08:24.17 | purl | "cmd: lart (.*?)" is "($1): shut up $1" |
| 08:24.34 | Thunder_Child | ~factinfo CMD: wtf laser (.*?) |
| 08:24.34 | purl | Thunder_Child: there's no such factoid as cmd: wtf laser (.*?) |
| 08:24.38 | Thunder_Child | ~factinfo CMD: wtf (.*?) |
| 08:24.38 | purl | Thunder_Child: there's no such factoid as cmd: wtf (.*?) |
| 08:24.41 | Tekkub | ~blahblahblah |
| 08:24.43 | Thunder_Child | bah, hard coded |
| 08:27.23 | Adys | ~literal CMD: whalenuke (.*?) |
| 08:27.24 | purl | "cmd: whalenuke (.*?)" is "($n): <action> dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around $n with his mind powers." |
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| 08:33.38 | Spellbinder | is this the right driver for Winfast PX9600 GT(NVidia)? http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/winxp_181.22_whql_uk.html |
| 08:34.12 | Adys | yes |
| 08:34.21 | Spellbinder | thank you |
| 08:34.42 | Adys | (110mb? jesus) |
| 08:34.57 | Thunder_Child | it doesnt however state that in the products supported tab |
| 08:35.16 | Thunder_Child | unless px is just a custom thing |
| 08:35.22 | Spellbinder | hmm |
| 08:35.31 | Adys | its just a custom thing |
| 08:35.32 | Fisker- | random shit |
| 08:35.51 | Adys | its a 9600gt, itll work |
| 08:35.52 | Spellbinder | well winfast is pretty uhm |
| 08:35.57 | Spellbinder | yeah |
| 08:36.15 | Adys | hold on, 181? i thought we were still on 180 |
| 08:36.26 | Fisker- | >o |
| 08:36.28 | Fisker- | :o |
| 08:36.32 | Spellbinder | 21 jan 2009 |
| 08:36.36 | Fisker- | 181.20 is the "big release" |
| 08:36.37 | Spellbinder | pretty new |
| 08:36.41 | Adys | awesome |
| 08:36.45 | Fisker- | and 181.22 was a bugfix driver manily |
| 08:36.56 | Spellbinder | wow crashed on me |
| 08:37.01 | Fisker- | Was released to include support for 285,295 cards |
| 08:37.10 | Corrodias | cool, i'm still using the 178's |
| 08:37.13 | Adys | thats a lot of cards |
| 08:37.16 | Corrodias | guess it's almost time to update |
| 08:37.20 | Thunder_Child | i hate new video drivers, they *always* fuck up the layout of my second monitor |
| 08:37.28 | Corrodias | Adys: you amuse |
| 08:37.33 | Spellbinder | had to ctrl+alt+del out of it and it restarted my comp aoutomagic |
| 08:37.35 | Adys | hur hur |
| 08:37.59 | Adys | why's video driver installation with nvidia simpler on linux than on windows? |
| 08:38.04 | Adys | one of the mysteries of life |
| 08:38.18 | Spellbinder | i have the cd drivers installed, from the cd rhat followed the box |
| 08:38.24 | Corrodias | fewer files linger after uninstallation maybe? |
| 08:39.28 | Adys | hm |
| 08:39.38 | Adys | i guess 180.22 and 181.22 is just the same driver |
| 08:39.59 | Spellbinder | i cloosed the site ages ago |
| 08:40.12 | Spellbinder | first hit should be newest right? |
| 08:40.17 | Spellbinder | rofl |
| 08:40.18 | Adys | yes |
| 08:40.27 | Fisker- | nooooooooooo Adys |
| 08:40.30 | Fisker- | not the same driver >E |
| 08:40.31 | Fisker- | :e |
| 08:40.33 | Fisker- | :E |
| 08:40.41 | Adys | yeah it is |
| 08:41.32 | Spellbinder | you'd think this would work with mIRC open yes? |
| 08:41.52 | Adys | dont use mirc |
| 08:41.56 | Spellbinder | rofl |
| 08:42.01 | Spellbinder | oh nm |
| 08:42.03 | Corrodias | don't use irc |
| 08:42.19 | Spellbinder | thought ut wanted iexplorer |
| 08:42.23 | Spellbinder | it* |
| 08:43.40 | Llorag | hi, are you familiar with an addon called "Character Map"? |
| 08:44.12 | Spellbinder | lol Corrodias |
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| 08:44.35 | Spellbinder | you don't use mIRC or i shouldn't use mIRC? |
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| 08:44.48 | Adys | you shouldnt use mirc |
| 08:44.52 | Adys | www.silverex.org |
| 08:45.56 | Spellbinder | mIRC pretty much is what you make it |
| 08:46.00 | Spellbinder | is* |
| 08:46.10 | Corrodias | there's nothing wrong with mirc except that it was popular in 1995 |
| 08:46.16 | Spellbinder | lol |
| 08:46.21 | Adys | everything is wrong with mirc |
| 08:46.35 | Spellbinder | that's when i started to use it |
| 08:46.49 | Corrodias | please explain. i'd like to know what's better about another client. besides a different scripting language. |
| 08:47.11 | Spellbinder | mIRC is pretty much clean |
| 08:47.15 | Adys | you mean a real scripting language? not a pseudo-coolkid scripting language |
| 08:47.26 | Spellbinder | and still you can do almost anything needed with it |
| 08:47.33 | Adys | eg python (or tcl I wouldnt know) |
| 08:47.36 | Corrodias | yep. that's what i mean. can you think of anything? |
| 08:47.56 | Adys | uhm, reason 1, it asks for a license? |
| 08:47.59 | Adys | thats bs enough |
| 08:48.10 | Corrodias | not being free is a valid point, yes |
| 08:48.15 | Adys | shouldnt have to pay for something as simple as an irc client |
| 08:49.03 | Adys | let that alone, xchat pretty much offers what mirc does except its free and still actively developped |
| 08:49.08 | Spellbinder | there are ofc xchat and others for free |
| 08:49.16 | Spellbinder | true |
| 08:49.30 | Spellbinder | i used xchat too, pretty much the same |
| 08:49.40 | Adys | (let alone xchat for windows which got some retardness going on, talking silverex builds) |
| 08:50.03 | Corrodias | ah, i'll take a look at it, see if it can do anything i'd switch for |
| 08:50.15 | Spellbinder | i thought XP was able to install without restarti9ng? |
| 08:50.27 | Corrodias | Spellbinder: install what, exactly? |
| 08:50.38 | Spellbinder | nvidia drivers |
| 08:50.51 | Adys | video drivers youll have to restart |
| 08:50.59 | Adys | bye |
| 08:51.02 | Corrodias | video drivers, definitely not. if it's nvidia, in fact, you're recommended to uninstall them, wipe the old stuff, and install the new ones with a reboot or two in the middle |
| 08:51.17 | Fisker- | fail |
| 08:51.35 | Corrodias | even though he's gone, i'll continue this thought: if it's ati... i don't know, my friend and i have had a hell of a time just installing their drivers in the first place |
| 08:51.52 | Adys | ATI is just as bad as mirc |
| 08:52.02 | Corrodias | lol |
| 08:52.18 | Adys | i cant believe ati supporters |
| 08:52.40 | Adys | so much for open source |
| 08:52.54 | Adys | no support whatsoever and cards that suddenly break |
| 08:52.54 | Corrodias | more like open ass, taking a dump on your computer |
| 08:53.06 | Corrodias | <- clever |
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| 08:54.12 | Llorag | I have been using "Character Map" as the base for an on-screen keyboard for my wife, who cannot use a std keyboard du to a disability... I would like some pointers on how to continue my work... anyone? |
| 08:54.14 | Corrodias | vista might be able to change drivers without rebooting. i haven't tried yet. |
| 08:54.39 | Adys | Llorag: there are plenty of onscreen keyboards around |
| 08:54.45 | Adys | what OS do you use? |
| 08:55.12 | Llorag | inside WoW? Vista |
| 08:55.48 | Corrodias | i, uh, think that's backwards |
| 08:55.52 | Fisker- | nvidia is fucking awesome |
| 08:55.56 | Fisker- | also CUDA |
| 08:56.00 | Fisker- | and butts |
| 08:56.11 | Corrodias | they certainly do have some key technologies under their control |
| 08:56.18 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: |
| 08:56.18 | Shiibot | The realms of the Blackout, Bloodlust, Conviction and Rampage Battlegroups have experienced some technical issues. Due to this, players on the affected realms may have been disconnected or experienced latency. The issues have now been solved, but we will keep monitoring the realms for the following hours. |
| 08:56.18 | Shiibot | We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.28/01Meeting stones in-game are now working correctly again. The rolling restarts have now been cancelled. |
| 08:56.24 | Adys | Llorag: I dont know if that works under windows but its a python app, so it should |
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| 08:56.28 | Adys | take a look at onboard |
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| 08:56.49 | Llorag | mostonboard |
| 08:56.59 | Llorag | sorry... |
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| 08:57.08 | Llorag | onboard, ok, thx |
| 08:57.37 | Llorag | most kbds work poorly in games.. |
| 08:58.16 | Adys | dont use fullscreen : |
| 08:58.17 | Adys | :P |
| 08:58.31 | Corrodias | i always ran wow in a window |
| 08:58.45 | Corrodias | although it became more of a pain when they broke the windowed mode resolution |
| 08:58.52 | Llorag | ofc... :P silly me :) |
| 08:59.57 | Corrodias | just a minor pain, though. had to resize the window slightly because it either started counting the borders of the window in its calculation of the size it should be, or it started restricting the size of the window upon launch to the width/height of the desktop |
| 09:00.23 | Adys | lets try those drivers |
| 09:00.48 | Corrodias | and Adys was never seen again |
| 09:01.23 | Llorag | So far, I've had no probs creating the keyboard and inpuing keypresses into an onpen chat box, but how do I open the default chat box from code? |
| 09:01.49 | Llorag | And how do I commit the typed text? |
| 09:02.19 | Llorag | that's all I have left, basicaly |
| 09:02.28 | Llorag | *+l |
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| 09:03.00 | Adys | wee |
| 09:03.16 | Adys | [11:02:42] <Corrodias> +and Adys was never seen again <- never had a problem installing nvidia drivers |
| 09:03.16 | Llorag | hehe, it worked? |
| 09:03.17 | Corrodias | aw, i guess they worked |
| 09:03.22 | Adys | i think i sadi that |
| 09:03.26 | Adys | s/sadi/said/ |
| 09:03.46 | Corrodias | indeed, i was just kidding. nvidia's drivers work nicely, especially compared to ati's. |
| 09:04.28 | Adys | What the hell |
| 09:04.47 | Adys | since.. when does wine have a file browser O_o |
| 09:04.50 | Corrodias | i think Llorag has a little problem, but i don't know anything about it |
| 09:05.01 | Corrodias | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.04 | Corrodias | <Llorag> And how do I commit the typed text? |
| 09:05.13 | Adys | saw that |
| 09:05.20 | Adys | I dont use onscreen keyboards |
| 09:05.23 | Llorag | ok... any ideas on recommended reading? |
| 09:05.26 | Corrodias | oh yeah, since you quoted me, fuckin' spy |
| 09:05.27 | Adys | I just worked with onboard at some point to fix some stuff |
| 09:05.56 | Corrodias | i take it the keyboard isn't visible all the time or something? pressing Enter is the normal way of opening the chat box in wow |
| 09:07.25 | Llorag | the keyboard is visible all the time, but can be toggled via a macro btn |
| 09:08.40 | Llorag | and the keys are arranged in a square, most frequent chars in the center |
| 09:08.47 | Adys | whats the current wow build? |
| 09:08.57 | Adys | 3.0.8a |
| 09:09.01 | Adys | 9506? |
| 09:09.14 | Llorag | iir, yes |
| 09:09.19 | Llorag | *c |
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| 09:10.37 | Llorag | and being able to emulate an enter press would make a world of difference for her.. |
| 09:11.01 | Corrodias | is this not possible in that keyboard thing? |
| 09:11.46 | Llorag | onboard? havent found it yet |
| 09:12.15 | Corrodias | that seems like it would be quite an oversight, not to include an enter key. has to be there somewhere... i should think. |
| 09:12.40 | Adys | onboard? |
| 09:12.40 | Adys | sec |
| 09:13.18 | Adys | onboard emulates your keyboard |
| 09:13.51 | zenzio | Llorag: at the moment what you're trying to do is just open the in-game chat input box? |
| 09:14.37 | Llorag | yup :) and commit the typed text |
| 09:15.20 | Adys | Llorag: http://devcub.com/~adys/onboard.png are we both looking at that? |
| 09:15.21 | zenzio | I can't test this myself, being at work, but you could try just calling the Show function on the input box... ChatFrameEditBox:Show() or whatever the name of the frame is |
| 09:17.07 | Llorag | Adys: is that available under windoze? |
| 09:17.15 | Adys | thats onboard |
| 09:17.34 | Adys | and yes its a python app so its prolly available on windows |
| 09:18.23 | Llorag | Zenzio && Adys: thx, will check that out! :) |
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| 10:22.19 | Llorag | Adys: windowed mode ftw. thank you |
| 10:22.19 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: January 29, 2009, 2:20AM PST |
| 10:22.19 | Shiibot | We will be performing rolling restarts on all U.S. realms beginning at 5:00AM PST, January 29. We anticipate that each realm will be down for no more than 15 minutes. The overall process will last approximately 1 hour. |
| 10:22.19 | Shiibot | January 27, 2009, 7:00PM PST |
| 10:22.20 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: > 28/01 Free character migrationThe following Free Character Migration will be available from Jan 28 to Feb 3:Horde only: Magtheridon --> Haomarush, Tarren Mill, Trollbane, Zenedar, Silvermoon (PvE) |
| 10:22.20 | Shiibot | Alliance only: Aerie Peak, Aggramar, Alonsus, Aszune, Azjol-Nerub, Bronze Dragonflight, Bronzebeard, Emerald Dream, Eonar, Khadgar, Kul Tiras, Runetotem, Shadowsong, Silvermoon, Turalyon --> Magtheridon |
| 10:22.23 | Shiibot | Burning Legion, Crushridge --> Dentarg, GenjurosGrim Batol, Sylvanas --> Shattered Halls, Vek'nilashRavencrest, Stormscale --> Haomarush, KarazhanAl'Akir, Outland --> Agamaggan, Ahn'Qiraj |
| 10:22.30 | Adys | Llorag: :) |
| 10:22.42 | Llorag | cya |
| 10:22.49 | Adys | have fun |
| 10:23.06 | Elessdy | glad it worked out for him |
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| 10:40.57 | Taroven | Tifi: You alive? ^_^ |
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| 11:40.15 | Olorin` | freenode having probs? or my connection dropping? |
| 11:40.27 | jnwhiteh | s' just you |
| 11:40.45 | Olorin` | :/ must be fast since wow not affected though |
| 11:41.00 | jnwhiteh | wow has lots of tolerance :P |
| 11:48.15 | batrick | some router prob exploded between u and freenode |
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| 11:50.46 | Lothaer | evenining |
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| 11:52.48 | Olorin` | well mine still relatively intact |
| 11:52.50 | Lothaer | so whats new guys? |
| 11:54.01 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 11:54.03 | jnwhiteh | i shaved |
| 11:54.12 | Lothaer | OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 11:54.18 | Olorin` | well I feel like i got a hangover without any alcohol involved |
| 11:55.01 | Lothaer | anyone know how to fix this error http://wowuidev.pastey.net/107209 ? |
| 11:55.12 | Olorin` | had awsome grouping experience last night and felt compelled to stay grouped till 4am this morning :/ |
| 11:55.45 | jnwhiteh | Lothaer: don't call SetWranglerOnLoad, since it doesn't exist |
| 11:55.47 | jnwhiteh | pretty simple |
| 11:57.18 | Lothaer | sorry i still dont know how to fix it |
| 11:57.23 | jnwhiteh | .. |
| 11:57.34 | jnwhiteh | in your function |
| 11:57.34 | jnwhiteh | SetWranglerFrame:OnLoad |
| 11:57.45 | jnwhiteh | which is either defined in XML or an :SetScript() |
| 11:57.53 | jnwhiteh | you are calling the function SetWranglerOnLoad |
| 11:57.57 | jnwhiteh | which does not exist |
| 11:58.08 | Lothaer | SetWranglerOnLoad(self); |
| 11:58.12 | jnwhiteh | how on earth do you expect us to be able to tell you more than that with only an error message |
| 11:58.15 | jnwhiteh | Lothaer: yes, that function does not exist |
| 11:58.21 | jnwhiteh | hence your problem |
| 11:58.24 | Lothaer | ok |
| 11:58.24 | jnwhiteh | its not a global function |
| 12:01.07 | Lothaer | thankyou silly typos |
| 12:01.08 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: |
| 12:01.08 | Shiibot | There will be rolling restarts of all realms to apply hotfixes, starting at approximately 05:00, Paris time (CET). Each realm will receive a 15 minute notice prior to being restarted. Thank you for your patience and understanding. |
| 12:03.39 | Adys | who was the author of auctionator? |
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| 12:11.16 | amro | Adys: Zirco |
| 12:11.21 | Adys | your mom |
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| 12:46.00 | Lothaer | damn errors lol |
| 12:46.40 | Industrial | errors, damn them. |
| 12:58.13 | Lothaer | lol |
| 12:58.55 | Lothaer | i got one error that i just cant figure out from what i can see all the spelling is correct and where its supposed to be http://wowuidev.pastey.net/107212 |
| 13:00.16 | amro | Lothaer: pastey the code |
| 13:01.28 | Lothaer | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/107212 |
| 13:02.06 | Lothaer | if needed i can send you a link for the mod in its current state. |
| 13:02.15 | Wobin | http://imager.cc/page15/obviously/ |
| 13:02.18 | Wobin | well... obviously |
| 13:03.06 | Lothaer | wait, she found a magazine of naked men in her sons room? |
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| 13:04.48 | Wobin | He has a hidden girlfriend ALRIGHT? |
| 13:05.41 | Lothaer | right lol |
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| 13:26.37 | Lothaer | so whats new guys? |
| 13:35.54 | Lothaer | AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE |
| 13:38.33 | Lothaer | ~DIAF sacarasc |
| 13:38.34 | purl | ACTION covers sacarasc in gas and drops a match. |
| 13:40.30 | Industrial | how can you cover someone in gas |
| 13:40.32 | Industrial | its gas |
| 13:40.33 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:40.50 | Industrial | oh, nm, gas/gass >_> |
| 13:45.09 | Lothaer | gasoline |
| 13:45.21 | Lothaer | its what the yanks call petrol |
| 13:49.32 | Olorin` | finally got round to uploading my first addon, cringe to think what comments will get lol |
| 13:51.11 | Lothaer | link |
| 13:51.50 | Olorin` | awaiting approval :/ |
| 13:52.10 | Olorin` | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12372-PointToAddon.html |
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| 13:52.38 | Olorin` | pretty basic really but its supprising handy for those whom duo |
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| 13:53.34 | Lothaer | awesome, can be used to track horde? |
| 13:53.45 | Olorin` | only grouped members |
| 13:53.51 | Lothaer | damn lol |
| 13:54.03 | Lothaer | would be nice if i can use it to track horde that i know are nearby :P |
| 13:54.10 | Olorin` | cant use getloc unless grouped |
| 13:54.45 | Lothaer | like if it detects them in the combatlog then it will point to the position that they were. |
| 13:55.16 | Lothaer | yeah still gonna be a useful mod. |
| 13:55.31 | Lothaer | i dont think it will work in instance though |
| 13:55.42 | Olorin` | nope it warns if no locs |
| 13:55.48 | Lothaer | nice |
| 13:55.59 | Lothaer | inactive while in a instance? |
| 13:56.09 | Olorin` | version.55 |
| 13:56.10 | Olorin` | lol |
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| 13:56.40 | Olorin` | ill add an autohide option |
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| 14:10.19 | Lothaer | wow 24 degrees tonight |
| 14:10.19 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: We need to perform maintenance on several realms at 16:00 Paris time (CET) lasting for approximately 30 minutes. During that time you may experience high latency, disconnects or difficulty logging into the game. |
| 14:10.19 | Shiibot | We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. > Rolling restarts, 30/01 |
| 14:10.19 | Shiibot | There will be rolling restarts of all realms to apply hotfixes, starting at approximately 05:00, Paris time (CET). Each realm will receive a 15 minute notice prior to being restarted. Thank you for your patience and understanding. |
| 14:10.27 | Lothaer | thats pretty warm |
| 14:10.53 | Lothaer | max of 41 might have to go for a swim |
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| 14:37.47 | Beladona | anyone know of a place I can test WorldStateCaptureBar positioning without having to enter a BG? |
| 14:38.36 | Lothaer | no idea bela sorry |
| 14:38.41 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm... the towers in Hellfire or a similar world PvP zone? |
| 14:38.46 | Lopeppeppy | Or are they not the same? |
| 14:39.36 | Beladona | those are AlwaysUpFrames |
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| 14:39.50 | Beladona | the capture bar is the little back and forth meter that shows you which side is winning more |
| 14:39.50 | Seerah | EPL would be the safest, I think |
| 14:40.03 | Seerah | hellfire has those too |
| 14:40.07 | Beladona | col |
| 14:40.10 | Beladona | err, cool |
| 14:40.11 | Beladona | thanks |
| 14:40.45 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:41.32 | Lothaer | anyone know whats going on with this error http://wowuidev.pastey.net/107219 ? |
| 14:43.08 | Beladona | paste the contents of SetWrangler.lua? |
| 14:43.09 | Seerah | that global variable is not declared or is nil when the funtions need it? |
| 14:43.22 | Seerah | that's all we can tell without the code as bela suggested |
| 14:44.12 | Lothaer | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/107221 |
| 14:44.15 | Lothaer | have fun :D |
| 14:45.51 | Beladona | is SetWranglerSetTabFrameButton defined in the xml? |
| 14:46.05 | Beladona | is this live code? I can just download the addon |
| 14:46.32 | Lothaer | no its not live |
| 14:46.40 | Lothaer | heres the mod in its current state http://www.4shared.com/file/83079069/53590fe5/SetWrangler.html |
| 14:48.25 | Lothaer | bela: i think it is but im not the original author ive just been adding stuff to it for about 2years now, and each time a xpac or patch that changed came out ive had to ask for help for the simplest stuff |
| 14:48.56 | Lothaer | which is why the code probabbly has a lot of dead or redundant code in it. |
| 14:49.21 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes it's cheaper to bulldoze the house and start from scratch, rather than remodel.... |
| 14:49.55 | Lothaer | yeah but i dont have the knowledge to do that, believe me if i could i would |
| 14:51.40 | Beladona | sometimes the best way to gain the knowledge IS to attempt a rebuild |
| 14:52.06 | amro | yep if you don't how to do it, doing it will inevitably involve learning |
| 14:52.18 | Beladona | I looked through your xml |
| 14:52.50 | Lothaer | a real mess isnt it |
| 14:53.35 | Beladona | SetWranglerSetTabFrameButton..i doesn't exist |
| 14:54.18 | Beladona | I want to assume you are looking for SetWranglerSetTabFrameTab..i |
| 14:54.41 | Beladona | there are 12 of those |
| 14:55.02 | Beladona | beginning at line 667 in the xml |
| 14:55.05 | Lothaer | yeah but i dont thank that stuff has ever existed in the xml |
| 14:55.19 | Beladona | then that error has always existed |
| 14:55.28 | Lothaer | grab the latest version on wowi |
| 14:55.31 | Seerah | Lothaer: take it from me - learning isn't so bad :) |
| 14:55.50 | Lothaer | yeah i know that i just dont know where to start, i need a Lua for Dummies book :P |
| 14:55.57 | Beladona | what is it called on wowi? |
| 14:56.04 | Beladona | not coming up under SetWrangler |
| 14:56.24 | Lothaer | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7566-SetWrangler.html |
| 14:56.33 | Beladona | my bad, space |
| 14:56.43 | Lothaer | this is the last version before WotLK came out and it worked fine |
| 14:56.54 | Seerah | Lothaer: I started here: http://lua-users.org/wiki/TutorialDirectory then followed examples on wowwiki and inside other addons. Then grabbed the wowprogramming book |
| 14:56.57 | Lopeppeppy | Lothaer, there are several Lua for Dummies books. :) Some of our Lounge guys wrote 'em. |
| 14:57.20 | Seerah | ~wowprogramming |
| 14:57.20 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 14:58.03 | Lothaer | ywah ive been meaning to get that book i for the that Dan helped on but its kinda out dated now :D |
| 14:58.28 | jnwhiteh | not really |
| 14:58.30 | Seerah | that's why there's a website |
| 14:58.35 | jnwhiteh | not if you are learning to write addons |
| 14:58.39 | jnwhiteh | that material is 100% relevant |
| 14:58.44 | jnwhiteh | some of the specific topics, sure |
| 14:58.53 | Lopeppeppy | Basic reference stays basic, they're not rewriting the Lua language every day. |
| 14:59.00 | Lothaer | true |
| 14:59.08 | Seerah | did I hear that there will be a second edition, clad? |
| 14:59.12 | jnwhiteh | I know, we're working on the second edition now |
| 14:59.16 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 14:59.21 | jnwhiteh | yeah, but it won't be out for months |
| 14:59.21 | Seerah | :) |
| 14:59.23 | Lothaer | i tried the co-ord mod in the book but i couldnt even get that to work |
| 14:59.29 | Beladona | same deal |
| 14:59.32 | Beladona | doesn't exist |
| 14:59.42 | jnwhiteh | Lothaer: that's the wrong book |
| 14:59.52 | Beladona | "SetWranglerSetTabFrameTab"..i does |
| 14:59.56 | jnwhiteh | Hacking World of Warcraft is not what we're talking about |
| 15:00.26 | Lothaer | thats the book i was refering to when i said it was out dated |
| 15:00.34 | Seerah | we were referring to this one: |
| 15:00.36 | jnwhiteh | ah, well that's not what we're talking about. |
| 15:00.37 | Seerah | ~wowprogramming |
| 15:00.38 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 15:00.43 | Seerah | :P |
| 15:01.28 | Seerah | ~botsnack |
| 15:01.28 | purl | Seerah: thanks |
| 15:01.35 | Lothaer | i know what you were refering to, ive been meaning to get World of Warcraft Programing, i got the Hacking World of Warcraft book but that book (Hacking World of Warcraft) is kinda out dated no. |
| 15:01.39 | Lothaer | now* |
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| 15:01.46 | Kalroth | Haxxing WoW with O'Reily, third edition: Now With Less Process Hooking And More Rootkit |
| 15:01.48 | Beladona | we know |
| 15:01.54 | Beladona | hence the new book (and better one) |
| 15:02.32 | Lothaer | bela any idea how i can get that error fixed? |
| 15:02.37 | Beladona | lemme check something else |
| 15:03.03 | Olorin` | hmm just put my first adodn on forum and since it was my first post under that user im now officialy a Kobold Laborer - on a bad day i scream "Who took my candle" |
| 15:04.11 | Lothaer | Seerah: did you read everything on that site? |
| 15:04.24 | Seerah | on which site? |
| 15:04.36 | Lothaer | http://lua-users.org/wiki/TutorialDirectory |
| 15:04.40 | Lothaer | when you started |
| 15:05.00 | Seerah | I didn't get through everything, but it was a good place to start for me |
| 15:05.14 | Seerah | I still go back and glance at stuff if there's a concept I don't quite get |
| 15:05.16 | Lothaer | did u have any prior coding knowledge? |
| 15:05.20 | Seerah | nope |
| 15:05.26 | Seerah | I'm a music teacher :P |
| 15:05.28 | Lothaer | kk cause i dont :D |
| 15:06.04 | Seerah | PIL is *the* manual for Lua, but it makes my head spin |
| 15:06.09 | Lothaer | so ill start but looking at that site and ill get a copy of that book, maybe one day ill get started on a SW2 beta |
| 15:06.22 | leethal | when tracking wether or not an ability (such as overpower) is ready, the only sensible way seems to be iterating the action bar. amirite? |
| 15:06.31 | Seerah | for a lua interpreter to use for those tutorials, download the one on the wowprogramming site |
| 15:06.40 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/weblua |
| 15:06.43 | jnwhiteh | i <3 that :P |
| 15:06.47 | jnwhiteh | i use it when i'm at the office |
| 15:06.51 | Seerah | yep :) |
| 15:06.59 | jnwhiteh | no download required! |
| 15:07.01 | Seerah | or you can get the standalone one (wowlua) |
| 15:07.25 | Beladona | ok here is the deal Lothaer |
| 15:07.30 | Lothaer | k |
| 15:08.04 | Beladona | "SetWranglerSetTabFrameButton"..i doesn't exist. Unfortunately there are two sets of objects in the xml that might be what you are looking for |
| 15:08.26 | Beladona | "SetWranglerSetTabFrameTab"..i |
| 15:08.27 | Beladona | and |
| 15:08.41 | Beladona | "SetWranglerFrameTab"..i |
| 15:08.49 | Beladona | you may need to test either or |
| 15:08.54 | Beladona | and see which is the one you need |
| 15:09.25 | Beladona | when you figure out which one, make sure you change teh rest of the code to match. because that is not the only line in the lua referencing that bad object |
| 15:10.05 | Beladona | of course |
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| 15:10.52 | Beladona | wait |
| 15:10.58 | Beladona | I see where he is going |
| 15:11.19 | Beladona | you know, you really should rebuild / learn a lot of this code |
| 15:11.24 | Beladona | because there is a lot of places for cleanup |
| 15:12.10 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: January 27, 2009, 7:00PM PST |
| 15:12.10 | Shiibot | We are now offering free character moves from select high population RP and PvP realms. To find out if your realm is available for these moves and begin the transfer process, please visit https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/ and click on the "Free Character Move" link. These moves are scheduled to end Tuesday, February 3, at 5:00 p.m. PST provided our transfer goals are not reached prior to this time. |
| 15:12.10 | Shiibot | PvE free character moves will be opening again on Thursday, January 29. For more information please visit https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com and click on the "General Discussion" link. |
| 15:13.38 | Lothaer | yeah i know |
| 15:13.46 | Beladona | Lothaer: pm |
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| 15:56.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 15:56.51 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: January 27, 2009, 7:00PM PST |
| 15:56.51 | Shiibot | We are now offering free character moves from select high population RP and PvP realms. To find out if your realm is available for these moves and begin the transfer process, please visit https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/ and click on the "Free Character Move" link. These moves are scheduled to end Tuesday, February 3, at 5:00 p.m. PST provided our transfer goals are not reached prior to this time. |
| 15:56.51 | Shiibot | PvE free character moves will be opening again on Thursday, January 29. For more information please visit https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com and click on the "General Discussion" link. |
| 15:57.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I got curious and googled "sbo wow" |
| 15:57.08 | ScytheBlade1 | http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-customer-service/101311.htm |
| 15:57.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I had almost forgotten about that epic bug |
| 15:59.18 | Lopeppeppy | I really, really hated that bug. |
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| 15:59.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I eventually figured out how to position the mouse and click the alliance FP there |
| 15:59.59 | ScytheBlade1 | But there was only MAYBE 1-2px of leeway to click it |
| 16:00.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Some times I'd just get lazy and go with the horde one |
| 16:01.51 | Lopeppeppy | Was uber annoying though. |
| 16:02.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I actually kinda enjoyed the unique bit about it |
| 16:02.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I was the only one in my guild who had seen Silithus pre-patch |
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| 16:05.29 | Lothaer | http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=sw0TNfIsgMI old (very old) but still funny |
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| 16:12.11 | Shirik|Ecole | rawr |
| 16:12.21 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr2U |
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| 16:12.44 | ScytheBlade1 | yum! |
| 16:12.50 | cog|work | dowant http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/drinks/a273/ |
| 16:13.00 | ScytheBlade1 | ~Shirik++ |
| 16:13.16 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: doin it wrong: http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/accessories/5a65/ |
| 16:13.27 | cog|work | (before clicking) soap? |
| 16:13.31 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 16:13.34 | Lopeppeppy | I make an awesome coffee soap. |
| 16:13.41 | Lopeppeppy | Don't pay Think Geek! |
| 16:13.41 | Shirik|Ecole | coffee soap? |
| 16:13.55 | Lopeppeppy | It works very well for when you've been working with VERY stinky things. |
| 16:13.59 | alestane | I have chocolate soap. |
| 16:14.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ... interesting conversation. I'll return in an hour and see where it has led. |
| 16:14.25 | Lopeppeppy | Coffee with some fine grain sand will take out the smell of a lot of very nasty stuff. A veterinarian I know of uses it. |
| 16:14.26 | alestane | Mocha soap,. obviously. |
| 16:14.27 | cog|work | i gave up caffeine for a while once. i'll take 6 extra hours in the day over a stable mood any time!!!11 *tweak* *tweak* |
| 16:15.11 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 16:15.36 | Shirik|Ecole | ok gotta go, pz |
| 16:19.18 | cog|work | http://www.aonevitamins.com/caffeine.htm imo |
| 16:19.30 | Lothaer | hey does anyone know why some realm in the realm list are red? |
| 16:19.47 | cog|work | full? |
| 16:19.54 | Lopeppeppy | Are they... down or full? |
| 16:19.54 | Lothaer | and i mean their names |
| 16:19.56 | nevcairiel | down? |
| 16:20.00 | Lothaer | no they are up |
| 16:20.05 | Lothaer | normally the names are gold |
| 16:20.11 | Lopeppeppy | Full? |
| 16:20.13 | Lothaer | but most of them are red |
| 16:20.47 | Lothaer | Black Rocks name is green but its full |
| 16:21.09 | Lothaer | Borean Tundra is New but name is red |
| 16:21.11 | Lopeppeppy | Red = where you don't have characters? I'm just guessing at this point. |
| 16:21.19 | Lothaer | nope |
| 16:21.26 | Lothaer | my server i play on is red |
| 16:21.27 | Lopeppeppy | Dunno then, sorry. |
| 16:21.34 | cog|work | is it *because* it's new? |
| 16:21.45 | Lopeppeppy | There aren't THAT many new servers. |
| 16:23.29 | alestane | Mine were red too, and I think some of them are release servers. |
| 16:23.59 | zenzelezz | they're just expressing their individuality |
| 16:24.42 | cog|work | some are green too |
| 16:25.15 | nevcairiel | green is new or recommended, iirc |
| 16:25.15 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: We need to perform maintenance on several realms at 16:00 Paris time (CET) lasting for approximately 30 minutes. During that time you may experience high latency, disconnects or difficulty logging into the game. |
| 16:25.15 | Shiibot | We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. > 30/01 Rolling restarts |
| 16:25.15 | Shiibot | There will be rolling restarts of all realms to apply hotfixes, starting at approximately 05:00, Paris time (CET). Each realm will receive a 15 minute notice prior to being restarted. |
| 16:25.19 | nevcairiel | red may still be full |
| 16:25.56 | Lopeppeppy | Red is the new black, who knows? |
| 16:26.16 | cog|work | nevcairiel: none of the three green ones are new or recommended |
| 16:26.18 | cog|work | at least on my list |
| 16:26.26 | nevcairiel | its broken, then |
| 16:26.33 | cog|work | would be my guess |
| 16:27.33 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_012909_182238.jpg <- so, you CAN actually explode Sartharion with Corpse Explosion :D |
| 16:29.46 | Fisker- | cog|work |
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| 16:29.50 | Fisker- | got some cogs i can get? |
| 16:31.08 | alestane | Some sprockets in fresh, but no cogs ATM. |
| 16:31.23 | Lopeppeppy | I am quite fresh, thank you. *wink* |
| 16:31.42 | AckisWork | :O |
| 16:31.47 | cog|work | Fisker-: http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=cogs&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2 |
| 16:32.28 | Lopeppeppy | That in fact would take much longer than we have... |
| 16:32.31 | AckisWork | cog|work: can i has random mount macro that works with dalaran/wintercraps pls? |
| 16:32.40 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: fire hose! |
| 16:32.53 | Lopeppeppy | http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&q=sprockets |
| 16:34.27 | cog|work | AckisWork: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=site%3Aforums.worldofwarcraft.com+mount+macro+dalaran |
| 16:34.44 | AckisWork | lol |
| 16:34.48 | AckisWork | ~love cog|work |
| 16:34.49 | purl | If you love cog|work so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 16:35.06 | cog|work | purl: 'cause polygamy isn't allowed in its country |
| 16:35.08 | AckisWork | omg lol that site is win |
| 16:35.25 | AckisWork | cog|work: I use google.ca not google.com |
| 16:35.26 | zenzelezz | cog|work: it's only illegal if they (and your other wife) find out |
| 16:35.29 | AckisWork | :P |
| 16:35.44 | cog|work | i'd have to go to another state |
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| 16:38.25 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, it's only illegal if you use a civic marriage. Religious ceremonies with no civil ties are not illegal no matter the number of partners. |
| 16:39.50 | cog|work | true, but then they can't get health insurance |
| 16:39.54 | cog|work | through my employer :P |
| 16:40.09 | cog|work | though i suppose the same would be true for an out-of-state extra marriage |
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| 16:42.03 | Lopeppeppy | Some employers offer partner benefits nowadays. Most still do not. |
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| 17:01.27 | Shiibot | Thank you for your patience and understanding. |
| 17:01.27 | Shiibot | > If you have submitted an in-game help petition please note that you will need to click on the âGM Chat Requestâ that will appear in the right-hand corner of the game in order to open the conversation with a Game Master. Please see the General forum for more details. |
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| 17:36.26 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm immature enough |
| 17:39.48 | Lopeppeppy | Immature enough for what, dear? |
| 17:44.06 | Fisker- | YOUR MOM LOLOLOL |
| 17:44.24 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... no. |
| 17:44.40 | Shirik|Ecole | Dunno, Lopeppeppy, that's what the topic said |
| 17:45.10 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, that's just End being Enderish. |
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| 17:52.54 | Lunessa | STATION |
| 17:53.28 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, dear. |
| 17:53.41 | Lunessa | Today, Thursday, January 29 2009 - is Taerar - "Peace is but a fleeting dream! Let the NIGHTMARE reign!" |
| 17:54.54 | alestane | Is that the dragon who was usually considered the hardest of the four? |
| 17:55.11 | alestane | Or the second easiest? |
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| 17:57.33 | Lunessa | To be honest, I never fought any of the world boss dragons except the one in Azshara. :( |
| 17:58.06 | nevcairiel | I thought Lethon was the hardest |
| 17:58.12 | Hirsute | I need to get some people together to do those dragons. I really want the schematic for a lifelike mechanical toad |
| 17:59.27 | nevcairiel | Replenishment .. you know what happens when you typo it Relpenishment .. right .. GC gets censored .. :P Rel@%#%@hment |
| 18:00.08 | End | Sounds like a fruedian slip to me |
| 18:03.18 | Lunessa | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.36 | nevcairiel | I thought it was funny seing it censored |
| 18:03.59 | Lunessa | grape get censored. |
| 18:04.28 | Lunessa | I was talking about PB&J when I learned that. |
| 18:08.58 | AckisWork | hahah PENIS |
| 18:09.35 | durcyn | i dunno, it almost sounds dirtier when it's redacted. "I'm gonna CENSORED you in the CENSORED hole, Ackis." |
| 18:10.04 | AckisWork | afk 23 seconds |
| 18:13.39 | Lothaer | well im going to be later guys |
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| 18:14.09 | Lothaer | ~seen Beladona |
| 18:14.14 | purl | beladona <n=Beladona@24.129.136.26> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 3h 28s ago, saying: 'Lothaer: pm'. |
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| 18:18.48 | zenzelezz | wow, the new summoning portal looks sweet |
| 18:19.27 | Dashkal | I've yet to see that thing. WTB warlock online tonight |
| 18:21.18 | zenzelezz | looks all demony |
| 18:21.25 | zenzelezz | then someone put an Elder Moonstone on it |
| 18:24.54 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent. |
| 18:25.18 | durcyn | i still think it looks like you're being flashed by an overweight demon |
| 18:28.36 | NeoTron | The hardest was clearly Mr Mushroom. Taerar needed the most tanks though. Lethon was only hard if you failed at turning him around (2nd easiest after Ysondre) |
| 18:28.49 | mikma | how can i turn string so that the first letter is uppercase and rest is small? |
| 18:28.59 | NeoTron | summoning portal = demonic TV |
| 18:29.55 | Lunessa | TV = Demonic |
| 18:30.10 | NeoTron | so it fits |
| 18:30.32 | durcyn | mikma: i don't believe there's a title case function, but something like this might work: http://lua-users.org/wiki/SciteTitleCase |
| 18:34.08 | NeoTron | http://ace.pastey.net/107240 |
| 18:34.35 | NeoTron | that's what I use |
| 18:34.55 | NeoTron | obviously also removes extranous whitespace and doesn't cap each word |
| 18:35.16 | mikma | hmm, now why does it add 1 after the word heh |
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| 18:36.11 | mikma | lol wut, print(str:lower():trim():gsub("^.", string.upper)) adds " 1" after the string lol |
| 18:36.19 | NeoTron | lua> "hello":lower():trim():gsub("^.", string.upper) |
| 18:36.20 | lua_bot | NeoTron: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '"hello"' |
| 18:36.38 | NeoTron | lua> s = "hello" s:lower():trim():gsub("^.", string.upper) print(s) |
| 18:36.39 | lua_bot | NeoTron: luabot:1: attempt to call method 'trim' (a nil value) |
| 18:36.46 | mikma | lua> local str = "hello"; print(str:lower():trim():gsub("^.", string.upper)) |
| 18:36.46 | lua_bot | mikma: luabot:1: attempt to call method 'trim' (a nil value) |
| 18:36.55 | mikma | heh |
| 18:37.03 | NeoTron | well it clearly works in WoW :P |
| 18:37.10 | mikma | ya, it does |
| 18:37.19 | NeoTron | and it definitely doesn't add " 1" for me |
| 18:37.24 | NeoTron | lua> s = "hello" s:lower():gsub("^.", string.upper) print(s) |
| 18:37.25 | mikma | but i have no idea why print is behaving like that.. with ChatFrame1:AddMessage it works hehe |
| 18:37.25 | lua_bot | NeoTron: hello |
| 18:37.44 | NeoTron | lua> s = "hello" print(s:lower():gsub("^.", string.upper)) |
| 18:37.45 | lua_bot | NeoTron: Hello, 1 |
| 18:37.57 | NeoTron | lua> s = "hello" print(select(1, s:lower():gsub("^.", string.upper))) |
| 18:37.58 | lua_bot | NeoTron: Hello, 1 |
| 18:38.00 | nevcairiel | there is your 1 |
| 18:38.03 | nevcairiel | its from the gsub |
| 18:38.11 | NeoTron | lua> s = "hello" s = s:lower():gsub("^.", string.upper) print(s) |
| 18:38.12 | lua_bot | NeoTron: Hello |
| 18:38.50 | NeoTron | yeah the 2nd return parameter |
| 18:39.02 | NeoTron | hasn't affected me because I just foo = cap(foo) type stuff |
| 18:39.02 | nevcairiel | "...gsub also returns, as its second value, the total number of matches that occurred. " |
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| 18:44.26 | alestane | There are a number of string functions available in the WoW environment that aren't part of the string library. |
| 18:44.43 | alestane | split, join and strtrim come to mind. |
| 18:47.16 | mikma | neotron: thanks, that works swell |
| 18:50.32 | jnwhiteh | strconcat |
| 18:52.13 | nevcairiel | ..! |
| 18:52.14 | nevcairiel | :) |
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| 19:00.31 | alestane | strconcat(...) is basically just a strjoin("", ...), yes? |
| 19:03.14 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/01/29/_bart_simpson_shills_for_scie |
| 19:04.52 | Lopeppeppy | ~seen amarande |
| 19:04.53 | purl | amarande <i=amarande@24-151-102-150.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 14h 14m 56s ago, saying: 'since you don't get to block or parry, you may as well just use dodge rating'. |
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| 19:14.27 | alestane | Oh dear: |
| 19:14.30 | alestane | Customer: âNo, the corn dogs! They look awfullyâ¦green, donât they?â |
| 19:14.30 | alestane | Me: *following his eyes* âSirâ¦I think youâre talking about the pickles.â |
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| 19:15.16 | Lunessa | http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp01272009.shtml - powerful. |
| 19:16.13 | Lunessa | It helps if you've been following the story, 'cause the old man in in the early stages of alzhiemer's. |
| 19:16.35 | alestane | Yeah, I saw that this morning. |
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| 19:41.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: very, kinda subtle if you're not paying close attention either. |
| 19:41.34 | Lunessa | Yeah, I think it's some of Randy's best story-telling to-date, |
| 19:48.05 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, USPS considers cutting a day of delivery: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-meltdown-post-office,0,4059136.story |
| 19:48.25 | Lopeppeppy | I saw. It makes some sense. |
| 19:48.51 | durcyn | interesting that tuesday's their slowest day |
| 19:50.17 | Nechckn | I would rather they cut Saturday, though... just to make life a bit better for most of their employees, while still saving a decent amount of $$ |
| 19:50.34 | Gngsk | Shirik, ping |
| 19:50.41 | Lopeppeppy | If they cut a super busy day, that wont' make their employee's lives better. |
| 19:51.09 | NightHawkTheSane | they'll just lose more money |
| 19:52.04 | Lopeppeppy | They're losing it already. If they think Tuesday's the most efficient day to cut,, they probably have a reason for that. |
| 19:52.12 | Tekkub | Tuesday's their slowest day probably because sat's mail gets processed on Monday, and there's not much for tues since they don't pickup on sun |
| 19:52.51 | Nechckn | I just know from working at jobs that had weird "off " days, that it sucks |
| 19:53.07 | Lopeppeppy | Yuppers, it surely does. < Retail |
| 19:54.56 | Nechckn | Even if they were like some banks and opened the post offices for a few hours, Saturday morning, that would allow folks to be able to go and mail packages, etc |
| 19:55.20 | Lopeppeppy | My post office *IS* only open for a few hours, just like the banks. |
| 19:55.35 | Lopeppeppy | The mail deliveries are out regularly, but the office itself has shorter hours. |
| 19:55.41 | Tekkub | not having two days in a row off, over the long term, really starts to wear on ya |
| 19:55.52 | Nechckn | Heck... maybe even have 1 central PO in each metro area open 24/7 - that way they could maybe pick up some business |
| 19:55.58 | Tekkub | one day off isn't enough time to completely disconnect |
| 19:56.44 | Tekkub | how the hell would that work Nechckn, each PO handle a specific area... that's why they're coded! |
| 19:57.03 | Nechckn | not for delivery, just for "intake" |
| 19:58.41 | Tekkub | they still have to collect it |
| 19:58.53 | Tekkub | or you mean, open only for people to come in |
| 19:58.56 | Nechckn | Most areas already have a central PO that serves as the "hub" for the others... just saying it would be something for them to investigate. I'd happily use them if they were open longer/more convenient hours |
| 19:59.08 | Tekkub | I don't remember the last time I went to a real post office |
| 19:59.11 | Nechckn | Tekkub right... only for people who need to mail packages, etc |
| 19:59.21 | Tekkub | when I'm forced to buy fucking stamps, grocery store! |
| 19:59.29 | Tekkub | packages: fedex |
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| 20:00.40 | Lopeppeppy | I use the campus mailroom 9 times out of 10. |
| 20:00.59 | NightHawkTheSane | http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/397774_dogporn29.html?source=mypi |
| 20:03.36 | Lopeppeppy | ... |
| 20:03.47 | Lopeppeppy | Once again, people just really royally suck. |
| 20:08.20 | Nechckn | Oh.my. |
| 20:09.26 | Lopeppeppy | I'm am totally in Hulk Smash mood right now. |
| 20:10.33 | Nechckn | The dog, Max, had to be killed. - they couldn't take it to live out it's days in a kennel somewhere??? |
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| 20:11.09 | Lopeppeppy | No. I agree with them, an animal taught behaviours outside of what is normally expected has been ruined for normal interaction. |
| 20:11.46 | Nechckn | I can understand not sending it to live with the Jones but still... |
| 20:12.18 | |Jelly| | I believe they reacted harshly on the dog -- it's not going to go rape a kid or something; it's a dog. |
| 20:13.08 | Nechckn | That's what I was thinking. |
| 20:13.23 | |Jelly| | I bet the Dog Whisperer could have helped! |
| 20:13.34 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly, it will act that way toward any human now. That dog has been made into... not a dog. Not a dog at all. |
| 20:13.50 | |Jelly| | You know. My aunt has a former fight pit bull. |
| 20:13.55 | AckisWork | |Jelly|: and if he couldn't have helped he could've got some action |
| 20:13.56 | |Jelly| | They said the same thing about him. |
| 20:14.17 | Lopeppeppy | Fighting is at least still in the category of "things that animals normally do". |
| 20:14.19 | |Jelly| | Now, that dog is her best trainer. Or well, was. |
| 20:14.26 | Kalroth | Killing it is still a bit harsh, you can teach an old dog new tricks. Put it this way, if it had been a human person then it wouldn't have been an option. |
| 20:14.27 | |Jelly| | So is copulating. |
| 20:14.43 | Lopeppeppy | Not outside of species. |
| 20:14.56 | |Jelly| | Are you so sure? |
| 20:15.28 | |Jelly| | Because be it a sign of applied dominance or sexual interest, I've seen dogs hump anything that moves, pink out and all. |
| 20:15.52 | Zootfizzle | ._. |
| 20:16.16 | AckisWork | things I never thought I would see today |
| 20:16.19 | Lopeppeppy | That's slightly different from what the dog was trained to do and expect to do. Taking a natural instinct and twisting it so that the dog can never interact with humans on an instinctual level again. |
| 20:16.24 | |Jelly| | I'm not really trying to be argumentative; I'm simply stating that killing the dog was a bit too much in my opinion, as someone who's been around and helped breed dogs before. |
| 20:16.45 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a pretty staunch animal rights person myself, but I guess... some things I put across the line. |
| 20:17.35 | Cairenn|afk | ugh |
| 20:17.48 | ckknight | I think we all learned a valuable lesson from this |
| 20:17.58 | |Jelly| | Don't screw your dog? |
| 20:18.08 | AckisWork | ckknight: easy way to make $4k? |
| 20:18.12 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 20:18.19 | ckknight | you know it, AckisWork |
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| 20:18.49 | Cairenn|afk | ugh again |
| 20:18.57 | Thunder_Child | "12:18.31Â Â Â Â Â Â * Connect retry #749 chat.freenode.net (8001)" what happens when your net goes down but the connections never stop |
| 20:19.57 | AckisWork | Thunder_Child: you missed a very enlightening conversation |
| 20:20.10 | Lopeppeppy | He can read it in logs, don't encourage him. :) |
| 20:20.13 | Thunder_Child | ~logs |
| 20:20.14 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 20:20.38 | AckisWork | would I ever encourage something like that? :P |
| 20:21.02 | krka | I suppose we should euthanize children have been molested too, they dont have much chance of becoming normal anyway |
| 20:22.09 | Lopeppeppy | *sigh* |
| 20:22.22 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, when we take it out of even the species involved, I give up. |
| 20:22.39 | AckisWork | are monkeys allowed? |
| 20:23.50 | AckisWork | this channel conversation sounds like something i talk to Kaelten or ckknight about btw :P |
| 20:24.47 | Kaelten | huh? |
| 20:24.50 | Kaelten | why bring me into this? |
| 20:25.00 | durcyn | apparently monkeys remind him of you. just roll with it. |
| 20:25.19 | ckknight | too much hair, AckisWork |
| 20:25.22 | Kaelten | ackis is constantly trying to twist my words, so I'm generally weary |
| 20:25.48 | ckknight | I disagree |
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| 20:26.08 | Cairenn|afk | wary? or leary? |
| 20:26.12 | Tekkub | we all know you have a dog Kaelten... |
| 20:26.12 | Kaelten | yes |
| 20:26.22 | Dashkal | Given how often Ackis does it, I think the word used applies :p |
| 20:26.32 | Cairenn|afk | s/leary/leery/ |
| 20:26.38 | Kaelten | as far as the animal rights thing goes, honestly, they aren't people and as a species we have much more important things to worry about |
| 20:27.23 | TC-Touch | like killing each other? |
| 20:28.12 | Zootfizzle | Take it easy folks |
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| 20:28.26 | Kaelten | even simpler things, corruption and manipulation, lying, much simpler problems in the world than just murder |
| 20:29.08 | Kaelten | hell just wide spread ignorance |
| 20:29.36 | Kaelten | the fact that nigerian police are holding a goat in custody on an arm robbery charge because a robber turned himself into one |
| 20:30.51 | AckisWork | Kaelten: goats have no arms, how can they commit armed robbery? |
| 20:31.11 | Kaelten | because a man turned himself into a goat to escape vigillantees |
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| 20:31.36 | Kaelten | http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090123/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_nigeria_robbery_goat |
| 20:33.51 | Thunder_Child | ~Logs |
| 20:33.52 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 20:35.00 | Thunder_Child | bah, doesnt have tody yet |
| 20:35.03 | Thunder_Child | today* |
| 20:35.36 | Gnarfoz | http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090123/od_nm/us_goat |
| 20:36.57 | Thunder_Child | http://www.rlslog.net/check-your-isp-with-google-m-lab/ |
| 20:40.44 | |Jelly| | ~hug Peppy |
| 20:40.45 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Peppy and suddenly hugs Peppy tightly |
| 20:41.55 | Lopeppeppy | ~huggle |Jelly| |
| 20:42.02 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww. |
| 20:43.04 | NeoTron | Kaelten: omglol |
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| 20:45.53 | AbsolutRayne | This really sucks |
| 20:49.24 | AbsolutRayne | Curse is still down, and WoWace doesnt have the version of this addon I need >_< |
| 20:49.55 | Thunder_Child | CC still seems to work however |
| 20:50.42 | Hjalte | Curse.com is up here. |
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| 20:52.16 | ckknight | Curse doesn't really go down very often anymore |
| 20:52.18 | ckknight | ...afaik |
| 20:52.23 | ckknight | it used to be horrific |
| 20:53.50 | Cairenn | you can also check WoWI, remember :p |
| 20:54.06 | AbsolutRayne | Cairenn: 1.2, 1.3 is the working one I need :/ |
| 21:02.17 | Tekkub | http://www.reallifecomics.com/comics/2009/20090129_2156.png |
| 21:02.23 | Tekkub | this is what Trey is like with guilds |
| 21:06.53 | Lunessa | Tekkub: Must make for interesting conversations. |
| 21:07.25 | Tekkub | I just don't let him in guilds I like and want to do shit with |
| 21:07.42 | AbsolutRayne | Yeah, isnt loading at all for me... |
| 21:08.04 | Tekkub | way back in the day (when we were closing in on 60) we had a "mature" guild and it was wonderful, we could be outselves |
| 21:08.21 | Tekkub | then one day the GL left and handed over the reins, and by the end of the day we left |
| 21:08.33 | Tekkub | new leader was a total tool |
| 21:08.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Reading OS Documentation while cooking pancakes == burnt pancakes >< |
| 21:09.23 | |pez| | lol |
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| 21:10.42 | AbsolutRayne | :< |
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| 21:25.13 | Lunessa | Tekkub: As a long-term guild leader, the same has been said of me many. many times, "Unkle? That guy's a tool." |
| 21:26.18 | NightHawkTheSane | well, thats likely because you are. ;) |
| 21:27.32 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Totally. I big, round-headed, bald TOOL. |
| 21:27.42 | Lunessa | I / 1 |
| 21:28.28 | AbsolutRayne | Is my IP blocking this site or something? O_o Why cant I get onto it. |
| 21:28.54 | alestane | Charlie Brown, you blockhead! |
| 21:28.56 | Hjalte | AbsolutRayne: They usually state if it they're blocking sites, at least mine is. |
| 21:31.12 | AbsolutRayne | tracert times it out on the second request. |
| 21:32.18 | Hjalte | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ |
| 21:33.21 | AbsolutRayne | blah, makes no bloody sense |
| 21:40.59 | Lunessa | AbsolutRayne: That means it's not making the hop out of your ISP's network. |
| 21:44.08 | bleeter | Cairenn: http://wildernessgallery.cart.net.au/include/classes/external/phpThumb/phpThumb.php?src=/images/products/02003130_2481780.jpg |
| 21:44.28 | Cairenn | bleeter: cute :) |
| 21:45.14 | bleeter | http://www.mnh.si.edu/exhibits/natures_best_2008/gallery/waterfall.html |
| 21:45.36 | bleeter | bah iriel's not in, will ahve to memo him that one |
| 21:47.18 | bleeter | signed print of the waterfall photo raised $40,000 Tasmanian Devil tumour disease research foo |
| 21:47.50 | bleeter | gotta see on a 40 foot high screen before you realise how truly awesome the pic is |
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| 21:56.17 | AbsolutRayne | Is there any way to make Grid go into Vertical groups with just 1 frame per tier? IE stacking straight down. |
| 21:56.32 | AbsolutRayne | The old GridDynamicLayout used to be able to do it |
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| 22:07.45 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, go 2 to the right....thats a breast |
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| 22:11.56 | Amarande | hmm, now raid boss HP makes me really boggle |
| 22:12.14 | Amarande | I just cleared out all of Stratholme ... apparently, there are bosses with more hp, alone, than -the entire instance- heh |
| 22:13.18 | Hirsute | Amarande: Wow |
| 22:13.22 | Dashkal | Well, consider this. Individual trash mobs when focused down go down in a time measured in seconds. Often less than one. Boss fights at the time could sometimes be measured in minutes |
| 22:13.23 | Hirsute | That's kind of crazy |
| 22:14.12 | Amarande | it's also amazing how little bags feel when you're in Stratholme |
| 22:17.10 | Amarande | total damage dealt, full Strat instance clear: 4143268 |
| 22:17.18 | Amarande | Illidari Council hp: 4300000 |
| 22:17.52 | Dashkal | :D |
| 22:18.05 | Dashkal | Omen has 5.5M hp. |
| 22:18.05 | sacarasc | That new or old Illidari Council HP? |
| 22:18.44 | Kalroth | Malygos got nearly 20 milllion HP :) |
| 22:18.53 | alestane | I wonder if my lock could solo Omen by now.... |
| 22:19.19 | alestane | ...probably not... |
| 22:19.32 | sacarasc | Omen was updated for level 80s |
| 22:19.33 | Kalroth | I think Omen is a boss, which means he'll scale with your level |
| 22:19.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Kalroth: that doesn't apply to damage or hp |
| 22:20.06 | Kalroth | naw, but it matters a lot of you want to solo it |
| 22:20.11 | NightHawkTheSane | true |
| 22:20.12 | alestane | Bosses' to-hit and resistances scale with the attacker's/defender's level, but I don't think that affects their health. |
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| 22:20.54 | Kalroth | alestane: Aye, but a level 83 boss will still crit you a lot more (assuming you're a warlock) than a level 73 boss would |
| 22:21.09 | Kalroth | Also he'd hit you more and hit you harder, etc. |
| 22:21.15 | Olorin` | 2nd addon added today http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12377-GuildBankFilters.html |
| 22:21.17 | alestane | At 70 after 3.0 I was soloing content that said it expected 5 70s. |
| 22:21.26 | Kalroth | Sure, after 3.0 :) |
| 22:21.40 | alestane | Kalroth: Ideally he wouldn't be hitting *me* at all. If he were, that would indicate bad threat management on my part. |
| 22:21.52 | Olorin` | thanks again cairenn for sorting my user out |
| 22:22.03 | alestane | Or that my poor voidwalker simply wasn't up to taking the hits. |
| 22:22.06 | Kalroth | I was soloing level 73 five man group quests at level 70 in Northrend :p |
| 22:22.09 | alestane | Which is a possibility. |
| 22:22.09 | Cairenn | Olorin`: you're welcome :) |
| 22:22.19 | Kalroth | 74 even |
| 22:22.48 | Kalroth | Being prot spec helps a lot though ;P |
| 22:23.06 | Amarande | sacarasc: new Illidari Council. Think it used to have like, 5 or 7 M |
| 22:23.11 | alestane | I did pretty well on the magnataurs in Dragonblight, except for Bloodfeast; that was harder to deal with. |
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| 22:29.23 | alestane | Need fast DPS for him, i'm built around sustainability. |
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| 22:30.45 | NightHawkTheSane | if i remember right, bloodfeast is a pita, as his bloodworms are immune to aoe. >< |
| 22:31.10 | Tybalt | Hi, anyone care to answer some noob questions? I've checked around the UI/Macro forums and WoWUI and can't seem to find answers. |
| 22:32.13 | alestane | ~asktoask |
| 22:32.14 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 22:33.24 | Tybalt | I was asking is anyone had the time and patience. Is there any type of IDE avalible for XML/Lua coding? |
| 22:33.57 | mikma | oh dear lord |
| 22:34.11 | mikma | hordes use a "cheat" to win WG |
| 22:34.35 | mikma | someone had logout in the keep (next to orb) and when they were in the inner yard he logged in and touched the orb.. frontdoor was untouched |
| 22:34.39 | Olorin` | anyone know for cetain if GetPlayerMapPosition works for raid group members or just party? |
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| 22:37.11 | Olorin` | tybalt try notepad++ or SciTE for Lua syntax highlighting, SciTE will allow you to link with the lua command line compiler to check code without having to reload it ingame to find out you missed a closing braket or somthing |
| 22:37.45 | Tybalt | Ok, thank you Olorin! |
| 22:38.30 | Dewin | You can use Notepad++ to syntax check too, you don't need SciTE to do it (though the integration isn't quite as pretty) |
| 22:39.45 | Lunessa | And for Windows Users, you can set up Visual Stdio (free version) for doing XML and LUA editing too. |
| 22:39.50 | krka | Lunessa: LUA, what's that? Did you mean to say Lua? :-P |
| 22:40.17 | Lunessa | bah yes. fuckyouverymuch. :P |
| 22:41.01 | Dewin | Lunessa: Notepad++ is for Windows only (or wine, I suppose) |
| 22:42.14 | Lunessa | Dewin: I use Notepadd ++ on my windows boxes and TextWrangler or eclipse on my iMac. |
| 22:42.51 | Dewin | ah |
| 22:43.26 | Shirik | Gngsk, pong |
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| 22:44.00 | Lunessa | eclipse takes some getting used to, but as a free-ish IDE it's useful. |
| 22:44.15 | AbsolutRayne | Kinda cheap WSG tactic... |
| 22:44.46 | AbsolutRayne | Horde identifies who the healers are. a DK sits below the GY, when the healer rezzes, immediatly DGs her right now and slaughters it. |
| 22:45.03 | Gnarfoz | awesome tactic |
| 22:45.04 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:45.16 | Gnarfoz | for one, because you could just switch GYs ;) |
| 22:46.04 | Lunessa | It makes sense if you wish to destroy a foe's ability to make war that you decimate his medical corps. This is why shooting medical units is outlawed. But in WoW it totally makes sense. |
| 22:46.24 | Gnarfoz | shooting what is outlawed |
| 22:46.49 | Gnarfoz | that stuff never made sense to me... :p |
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| 22:50.41 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: it's why the medics have the target... errr red cross on them |
| 22:50.49 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 22:50.57 | AckisWork | wot wot? |
| 22:52.02 | sacarasc | AckisWork: I may love you, dependant on if this info in ARL is correct or not |
| 22:52.14 | AckisWork | sacarasc: you'll love me anyways |
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| 22:58.56 | mikma | haha, medics, targets |
| 22:59.07 | mikma | stop saving lifes damnit |
| 22:59.17 | sacarasc | AckisWork: what does an orange recipe mean after one has scanned? |
| 23:00.52 | sacarasc | It says I can learn this one from the trainer (in front of me) but she is a gnome and doesn't have the recipe! |
| 23:02.05 | AckisWork | sacarasc: it means it's orange? |
| 23:02.07 | AckisWork | what recipe? |
| 23:02.09 | mikma | haste: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/sieg_fail.jpg |
| 23:02.37 | sacarasc | Titanium Toolbox (engineering, 440) |
| 23:03.42 | sacarasc | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23817#comments seems ARL pointed me in the wrong direction |
| 23:04.22 | mikma | cairenn: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/oh_hai.jpg |
| 23:04.22 | AckisWork | eh I was givien trainer info for that when I put it in :P |
| 23:06.12 | Cairenn | mikma: yeah, saw that one before, it's cute |
| 23:06.40 | mikma | cairenn: how, what when?! who dares! |
| 23:06.48 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:06.57 | mikma | tekkub: oh you too, same link i pasted for cairenn |
| 23:06.58 | sacarasc | I just flew to Howling Fjord for nothing |
| 23:09.12 | Tekkub | mu? |
| 23:09.34 | AckisWork | sacarasc: why didn't you go to the trainer in dalaran? |
| 23:10.01 | sacarasc | Because it said it was a recipe, not a trainable thing, so I thought it was bought from the gnome |
| 23:10.15 | AckisWork | it was flagged as a trainer recipe |
| 23:10.52 | ReAn | rawr |
| 23:11.40 | mikma | in case someone missed my megafun! http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_012909_182238.jpg |
| 23:11.52 | mikma | corpse explosion on boss = priceless |
| 23:12.21 | mikma | pugs were about to cry cause they thought boss despawned |
| 23:12.44 | mikma | i was laughing so hard that tears were falling from my eyes |
| 23:13.15 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 23:13.19 | mikma | everyone ran in to loot the boss and there were still adds up |
| 23:13.20 | Shirik | Weak nerf! |
| 23:13.25 | Shirik | You cannot defeat me! |
| 23:13.37 | mikma | so i hit the adds couple of times to get enough runic and boom |
| 23:13.56 | mikma | off he goes. quite a show when sartharion exploses |
| 23:24.36 | Tekkub | New issue 773 by bwmerlin: Bug report? |
| 23:24.36 | Tekkub | What steps will reproduce the problem? |
| 23:24.36 | Tekkub | I don't know |
| 23:24.41 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:29.47 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=15726 |
| 23:29.54 | Arrowmaster | epic thread has made my day |
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| 23:32.28 | Lunessa | Epic |
| 23:32.29 | mikma | tekkub: apparently theres no bug then =D |
| 23:33.10 | Lunessa | Tekkub: ZOMG... that report is full of fail. :( |
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| 23:33.58 | Tekkub | he gives a dump later, it's just a really REALLY bad start |
| 23:33.58 | Amarande | yay, learned something about scholomance |
| 23:34.05 | Amarande | apparently, talking to the students in the viewing room does nothing |
| 23:34.14 | Amarande | only -attacking- them will aggro them, and then only the group at the time |
| 23:34.20 | Amarande | oh, and don't attack vectus till the room is cleared. :) |
| 23:34.43 | Tekkub | yea I thought that was how it always was |
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| 23:35.36 | Amarande | Tekkub: people always believed that talking to the students initiated aggro |
| 23:36.05 | Tekkub | and only the tanks knew the truth |
| 23:36.08 | NightHawkTheSane | people are idiots |
| 23:36.17 | Tekkub | maybe they told people that because people are idjuts? |
| 23:36.21 | NightHawkTheSane | tanks just sewed the fear to keep the plebs they were cursed with under control |
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| 23:36.32 | NightHawkTheSane | or... you know, thats why i did it.. |
| 23:36.42 | Tekkub | see? |
| 23:36.47 | Tekkub | tank conspiracy |
| 23:37.34 | AckisWork | the issue with talking to them stemmed from the brd bar where when you talked to them you got agroed |
| 23:37.37 | Amarande | also: how is it that while being 20+ levels above the mobs seems to cause magic to do very little to me, physical mobs still hit what appears to be 100% of the time? |
| 23:37.44 | Amarande | I thought higher level targets had a miss chance |
| 23:38.27 | Amarande | Ack: ah, wouldn't know |
| 23:38.36 | Amarande | I always start the BRD bar fight by filching the beer off the table |
| 23:38.42 | Tekkub | erm, well with players it's higher miss and glance isn't it? |
| 23:38.54 | Tekkub | mobs can't glance |
| 23:40.08 | Amarande | Tekkub: they also seem to not be able to miss, unless dodged, blocked or parried |
| 23:40.21 | Amarande | at +20 levels, they should be missing left and right |
| 23:40.25 | Tekkub | they should have miss |
| 23:40.30 | Amarande | although perhaps instance elites have HR |
| 23:40.40 | Tekkub | HR? |
| 23:41.28 | Tekkub | there's probably a different mechanic for lower-level mobs, to prevent them from becoming trivially easy too fast |
| 23:41.34 | Tekkub | but who the hell knows |
| 23:42.00 | Amarande | HR. hit rating. |
| 23:42.18 | nuoHep | Amarande, theoretically its still 100 defense diff. witch equals to around 4% miss, dodge and parry each on top of what you have by default (if lower level mobs qork like higher level ones) |
| 23:42.26 | Tekkub | if they did, then wouldn't it show up when you were equal level as well? |
| 23:43.18 | nuoHep | and Im quite confident they do |
| 23:44.25 | Tekkub | so that's 12% more not-hitting |
| 23:44.41 | Tekkub | noticeable, but not "they never hit me" |
| 23:45.37 | Amarande | btw, is the scantly-clothing purple-black robe that some of the female Scholomance NPCs wear in game for players? |
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| 23:46.59 | Arrowmaster | it is, altough it might not be in that same color |
| 23:47.50 | Amarande | what's the item? |
| 23:47.55 | Arrowmaster | not sure |
| 23:49.00 | Amarande | like, let's be blunt |
| 23:49.05 | |pez| | I'd have my guildbank stuffed with shinies for lower level guildies. XD |
| 23:49.07 | Amarande | if you are obtaining these blues, then one of two things is true |
| 23:49.15 | Amarande | either a) you are an 80, for which they're basically all useless |
| 23:49.21 | Amarande | or b) you are having a high level train you through the instance |
| 23:49.33 | Tekkub | nah, make em account bound |
| 23:49.35 | Amarande | actual groups in old world instances are simply the rare exception now |
| 23:49.46 | Amarande | therefore, there's no real challenge associated with obtaining them in either case |
| 23:49.48 | Tekkub | forces people that *can't* 80 it to get some help |
| 23:50.00 | Tekkub | and keeps the stuff off the market :) |
| 23:50.20 | Tekkub | also makes "handmedowns" possible amongst your own toons |
| 23:50.36 | Tekkub | you still have to earn the item yourself, but it doesn't become totally useless |
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| 23:54.36 | bleeter | Tekkub: moar account bound stuffs yes! :) |
| 23:55.27 | Zootfizzle | o_O |
| 23:55.40 | Amarande | yeah, BoA for those would be good |
| 23:55.40 | Arrowmaster | it lives |
| 23:55.42 | Zootfizzle | Heya Arrowmaster =) |
| 23:56.03 | bleeter | Tekkub: btw, Zul'Drak guide.. 'a great storm approaches' direction should be west not east ;) |
| 23:56.04 | Amarande | I don't think we have to really worry about the price of brilliant shards getting damaged by it either |
| 23:56.17 | Amarande | the price of large brilliant shards is already in the toilet thanks to people doing MC and AQ40 again :) |
| 23:56.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: meh, i'd be happy with a single shoulder piece, instead of twenty. >< |
| 23:56.24 | bleeter | Zootfizzle: heya, and Happy New (solar and lunar) new year to you and yours :) |
| 23:56.28 | Arrowmaster | Zootfizzle: got time for a quick work related question? or will i drive you off if i ask |
| 23:56.50 | sacarasc | I love it! Bastard RL got me saved in an empty Naxx25 |
| 23:56.54 | Zootfizzle | You can ask whatever you want, keeping in mind that I might not be able to answer your question satisfactorily :P |
| 23:56.57 | bleeter | Tekkub: bah, east not west.. see got me all confused now :P |
| 23:57.16 | Zootfizzle | Happy new year, bleeter! |
| 23:57.22 | Thunder_Child | whats the circumfrence of the earth Zootfizzle? |
| 23:57.27 | Arrowmaster | Zootfizzle: IsAddOnLoaded() got a 2nd return in 3.0, it still seems broken |
| 23:57.39 | Thunder_Child | circumference* |
| 23:57.46 | bleeter | that's easy, Thunder_Child |
| 23:57.50 | Thunder_Child | no google |
| 23:57.54 | Thunder_Child | or wikipedia |
| 23:58.04 | Zootfizzle | The earth isn't perfectly round, you need to define a plane :P |
| 23:58.06 | bleeter | 'the circumference of the earth is the longest distance around the planet using a straight line' or somesuch |
| 23:58.07 | Thunder_Child | or internet |
| 23:58.20 | bleeter | Zootfizzle: he asked for a definition, not the number ;) |
| 23:58.30 | Thunder_Child | Zootfizzle, all of them avergaed out |
| 23:58.35 | Arrowmaster | Zootfizzle: question being are you aware that it still seems broken? and whats the story with is it going to be fixed? |
| 23:58.41 | Thunder_Child | averaged* |
